Green Light with Chris Long - Brian Baldinger! Jalen Ramsey Traded, Sack Summit, Best NFL Edge Rushers & Malik Beasley!

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

Baldy's Breakdowns comes to Green Light! To start, the fellas talk Malik Beasley's NBA gambling investigation, react to the Jalen Ramsey - Minkah Fitzpatrick (and Jonnu Smith) trade and recap Love Island. Then, Brian Baldinger joins Chris to talk about Maxx Crosby, Von Miller, Cam Jordan and the Sack Summit, an elite meeting of the NFL best pass rushers to trade tips, practice moves and build camaraderie throughout the position! Chris and Baldy were both in Vegas at the Sack Summit and recap the event, their favorite moments and Baldy breaks down what makes Maxx Crosby so good in the NFL. Baldy also talks his favorite pass rushers, ranks the best pass rush groups in the NFL and details coaching in Italy. Then Chris, Beau and Nate jump back on to talk Beau's trip to Sea Isle for the Eagles' charity event that featured Jason Kelce in swim briefs, Beau perfecting the greased pole challenge and Kelce's torn hamstring! (00:00:00) Intro (00:03:00) Malik Beasley's NBA Gambling Investigation (00:18:37) Steelers & Dolphins Trade (00:32:20) 28 Years Later (00:33:22) Love Island (00:40:30) Brian Baldinger on Maxx Crosby, Sack Summit, Best NFL Edge Rushers and Coaching in Italy! (1:44:09) Sea Isle & Potential Nose Guard Summit Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Also, check out our paddling partners at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Appomattox River Company ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Well, unfortunately or fortunate, Chris, Max hits me up either Sunday night or Monday night every week for six straight years in a row. Have you watched a tape yet? Have you watched you? What do you take? I'm like, Max, look, I do have a life. I do have some other things I got to get done besides watching. But I'll get to your tape. I'll get to it. I'm going out to the movies today. Yo, you're crazy. You're diving in Florida. You know how many sharks there are? Yeah. They're like little puppies. You know, it's like going to a pet store. I've been a Fitzpatrick fan. Like, you know, when he got traded in his second. gear for Miami in Pittsburgh. Like literally, the first game ever, he got training on Tuesday. We started for Pittsburgh on Sunday, and he had two takeaways that day.

I mean, Vaughn, I mean, to be able to go grab grass as easy as he did and Ben set you up with it, I'd say he's probably as good as anybody that we've seen. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast presented by BetMGM. If you haven't signed up for BetMGM yet, use Bonus Coke Greenlight, and you'll get up to a $1,500 first bet offer on your first wager. with BetMGM. Here's how it works. Download the BetMGM app and sign up using bonus code Greenlight. Deposit at least $10 and place your first wager on any game. If that bet loses, you will receive up to $1,500 in bonus bets. Just make sure you use bonus code Greenlight when you sign up.

Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. Thanks for tuning in today, folks. We're glad that you are here. Brian Baldinger is the guest. Chris and Baldi talk all things NFL. The Ramsey-Fitzpatrick trade between the Steelers and the Dolphins. Which one of the teams, the Steelers or the Dolphins, came out on top on this trade. That's our poll for today. Make sure you answer it. Baldy and Chris also recap the Sack Summit.

They were both out there with Max Crosby, Von Miller, and Kim Jordan, and a whole host of other NFL edge rushers. They talk a few NFL storylines, Baldi's swimming habits. And they do a little exercise. They talk their favorite rushers that each passers. rush technique, the long arm, the spin move, each of them. It's a great combo with Baldy. We have a great time. Bo and Nate are also on the show today. We talk Malik Beasley in the alleged gambling activity that he's involved with. And Bo also recaps the sea aisle trip. The Eagles amazing fundraising activities. Bo was there. He had a front row seat to Kelsey ripping off his pants.

It's a great episode. Enjoy it. Have a blast. And we'll see you on down the line. I want to welcome everybody to the show. uh today we got brian baldinger we talked a lot about him on the last pod it was only natural that we reached out to him and asked him to tell his side of the story on his blown hamstring in the sea terminal of like the chicago airport or wherever that was that he heard himself last week on the way the sack summit baldie's my favorite honestly i told you this last week the five people at dinner question it'd be like jesus nelson mandela like four a couple other questions a couple other like shoe ins and then it'd be baldy.

There's just to be baldy explaining ISO to Jesus over a rack of ribs or something. Anyways, Baldi's going to be on the show. We're going to talk about pass rushers. We can talk about offensive line. We're going to talk about some of the skill guys as well. But Baldy is an officiado of the big fellows. So Baldy will join us shortly.

We got Bo joining us from, what are you, your cabin? Yeah, baby. Wisconsin, God's country, Chris. Yeah, God's country. Honestly, one of the last places, supposedly, it's like where you want to own land right now. Because of, when the desolations come, when, you know, the Middle East,

when World War III breaks out, I'm in great shape. I'm ready for the water wars, a lot of fresh supply of water, only a couple roads in and out. I'm ready. I'm stocked. Yeah, you got any guns?

Got a couple guns. No, you don't. Yeah. He doesn't have any guns. Everybody, what's his address? Welcome to the good. Talk about it. Okay.

Yeah, all these fucking guns. And we got Dr. Faxe here in Charlottesville as well. Nolan right there on the Riverside, on Riverside. Riverside, motherfucker. And then there's a read right there on the couch and Tanner's behind the machine. So we're all here. We're all here. Today we've got, uh, Baldi, as I mentioned.

We're also going to talk about this Steelers Dolphins trade. And Bo, I got a little surprise for you coming up later in the show. I'll just say that. Hell yeah. Malik Beasley. No, you'll like it, though. Malik Beasley is also a guest? No.

No, I was going through the rundown of the show and I was like, we got Malik Beasley and Nate's like coming on the show. I'm like, I don't think he's doing any media. Bro, let's just start here. Bro, even if he's innocent, doesn't it suck? He's not innocent. To have everyone online is digging up and now are the biggest NBA analysts and bet analysts and doing all this research to match stuff up. It would suck if they were like, hey, Chris Long supposedly was like throwing games and it

wasn't true. Yeah. And they just went back and find your low lights. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it would suck. Be like, look at him right there. And there's probably a couple run fits where it looked like I was throwing a game or something. But nothing like Malik Beasley.

Let me say something. I was sold on this thing. This is so great. This is the best one. Okay, but like, okay, so what we're, what we're looking at here is the one where it's circulating right now online, but it's Beasley taking a shot with eight seconds to go off an inbound in the corner. It's a three-pointer and Janice blocks his shot and Beasley's pissed. So everybody says Beasley, Beasley's parlay got blown. I don't think so.

I think Beasley's acting mad. I don't know the line of this game. But Beasley got his shot block so bad. Like, it's almost like he was throwing this game. And here's the part that's crazy. If you watch the replay, he goes up and he makes sure the shot finishes on his hand so that Milwaukee gets the ball back. That's how I'm looking at every play that Malik Beasley ever made through that lens now.

So you tell me, do you think it was like that blew the parlay or he was throwing that game? No, I think that that blew a potential parlay. And he's mad. Then on top of Yon-Ockham's razor. Top of Yonis, like taunting him. in the back of his mind, he's like, you just lost me a half a million dollars or whatever. He was in Pete Rose mode at that moment.

Probably. He was gambling on his own team. Or, or the spread, or the spread. Yeah. And they're trying to make kit the spread no matter what. Well, that's why I was wondering if,

because this one, that's, this is the one that everyone found because the spread of this game was seven and a half. Run that back. Run that back. And let's describe what's going on for the people listening on audio. Timberwolves are down.

eight points with five seconds to go. To the Clippers. Realistically. This is where I believed it. If you are going to come out, come back, yeah. Okay, so what happened is Clippers are up, Clippers are up nine after a free throw. There are five seconds to go.

The game is over. Usually the inbound comes and a guy just dribbles it out. But Beasley is sprinting down the court like it's the Olympics, dunks the basketball, covers the spread. Okay, so here's the background. information. Malik Beasley goes coast to coast with no time left to cut the lead from nine to seven and Timberwolves plus eight and a half is covered. He scored seven last minute of the game. February 10th, 2021. This is another fact about Malik Beasley. The day after he was sentenced to jail

for pointing a rifle at a family, which also resulted in an NBA suspension. His last interview is a buck. And I quote, I came here to win a ship. I bet on myself and I bet on us and I lost. A little Freudian slip there. Wow. After the playoff loss. That's what he said. He's the little.

Okay. And there's their videos like- I like that. Say what now? That's just truth in media. I like that. You know? Yeah.

It's rare to be true honest opinion. The media like that. So let me ask you this. Do you think a player as good as him, you get in this? situation because you're into deep gambling and this is maybe like your way out you get tied up with the wrong people to be like hey i can get you out of this 250 000 or half a million dollar debt i understand the question yeah or is it just like addiction addiction in the point like

hey i can miss some shots i got to believe i got to believe in his case is addiction because like he makes a lot of money right malik beasley i think he was about to to get a big contract. I don't know what his other contract. I think he was in talks about to make like a $47 million contract coming up or something, which is out the window now. Because didn't the NBA get rid of props? He was on one year's $6 million last year.

Isn't the NBA pushing to get rid of props because of some of the, yeah. John Tate Porter? Yeah, right, right. So I worry about with the guys who don't get paid as much. One of the reasons we talk about college basketball and that sort of thing, like it's going to be impossible to keep, like college props. Yeah. Sorry, college props.

They're getting rid of college props. You can't bet on college props. That makes a lot of sense because there's a ton of guys who aren't getting the bag. There's a big, you know, there's a big wealth inequity between the highest NIL earners in college basketball and the ones who aren't making any money. And so, of course, those guys that aren't making any money are really susceptible to being manipulated by, you know, clandestine gambling types, right? Like the people they tell you to stay away from. But then you always think the rich guys aren't easy targets because they have so much money. in the NBA and that sort of thing,

but we've already seen it with guys getting caught up. So I don't know. I think either situation could arise in the NBA. And it's scary for, you talk about the NBA where a lot of what they do in the regular season is gambling, right? Because let's be honest, unless you're an NBA head,

I'm not that interested in 82 meaningless games where it depends on who might be playing and that sort of thing. Gambling is like the lifeblood. Yeah. And it's a lifeblood of the NFL. If this ever happened in the NFL, I told the guys yesterday,

They would probably reopen Guantanamo Bay and put that guy there just to prove it. But it's open. Guantanamo Bay is open, actually. We'll put him in alligator tras. They put him in alligator tras. Which we'll talk about later. Which is going to be some sort of facility in the middle of Florida. Unreal.

Yeah, it's unreal. They were like, you don't really need walls if you're in the middle of the Everglades, do you? So anyways, I just think like. Wait, didn't our commander in chief just bring up building a moat around? Texas with alligators in it i mean i feel like that kind of tracks you know yeah but alligator jail yeah but he doesn't always mean what he says all right but so so so um so i so i look at this and i say like listen this is like this is some scary shit for for the NBA for the NFL like this is if this happens this is probably the most well-known guy getting pop for gambling in our four major sports

in a way that muddies the product in modern times. I mean, obviously you have like Pete Rose and that sort of thing, but who's been more relevant in the Big Four in the past like 10 years since online gambling has come about and gotten in trouble? Like this hurts the product, bro. This is scary. I just think about all the guys that are sitting with clinched buttholes

that maybe through one or two games in their career, bad judgments or whatever it may be. And now you're just like, dang, like they caught him off of that. They're looking at all of this. And if you're just like nervous sitting there. Yeah. Or just nervous that at some point, like, when do the bookies turn over? When do the bookies end up get caught up in a big enough scandal where they're like, you know what?

I got about, I got seven NBA stars. Well, yeah, like they're going to roll on you. No, that's what's right. And that might be what happened here. And that's what I'm saying. And like at what point does it happen where, it's the bigger bookie that has five to seven guys like because listen known with known stuff the otani thing it looks like he escaped on a technicality you i believe it 100% not necessarily

no i'm a little bit cynical there but like this malik beasley is on the court fucking up like he is he is out there throwing games it's obvious he got he was at the top of the key and the guy driveled right past him bro bro that it was it was crazy So this is something to keep your eye on in the NBA. I know it's not a football story, but eventually, I assume it's not going to be something as relatively innocuous as Calvin Ridley putting in a couple parlayes around the league. Like, you know what I mean? Like that's the type of thing that they want to make an example out of you and hope that there are no more examples that need to be made. The NFL does not want to have to make an example out of somebody on this level.

The NBA doesn't want to have to make an example out of somebody on this level. The NBA probably thought, hey, we've made examples out of a couple, you know, supporting role kind of actors in the NBA. And that should be enough. Like, no, this is going to explode. This is going to be a big deal. On one hand, it's just the game. But on the other hand, for a lot of people, how many tens of thousands of dollars does he cost people? Yeah.

Hundreds of thousands of dollars, possibly. I wonder if by his actions. I wonder if he's cost more people. their money or if he costs himself more money. I think he, for him to be doing this for a long time, presumably,

I think he probably costs a lot of people, a lot of money. A lot of people, yeah. And that's tough. You're betting on Detroit Sports? Yeah, well, that's what you're like, cut it out. The generants, the least bet games.

If you're a gambler, you want the least bet games. Not to mention, his last possession as a piston was just dropping the ball. against the Knicks with the game on the line. Like he just dropped the ball. And it's like the Pistons and Jonte Porter, Raptors,

two very not, you know, not at the top of the standings teams, there you really kind of have to be a on top of your betting apps to be betting on those teams. No question. You know, the kind of bets that these guys are putting in. No question. I just want to say his last thing. As a Knicks fan, what a wild run they had this year.

You had, you know, the round against the Pistons, which ends, of course, in retrospect, like a throne game, right? Not that he would have hit the shot necessarily, or they would have won the series. And then you get Tatum's Achilles against the Celtics, and then you get the Jim Ursae bounce and all the comebacks in the series against the Pacers. And then it ends with them firing their coach.

Oh, after being in the Eastern Conference finals. Like, what a weird fucking run for the Knicks. You're a big better. I guess. So let me ask you this. This dude, Beasley, say he gets found guilty and they map out what games he thrown. Say you had a $10,000 bet on a game

to be over a point. They find him guilty. They say he's thrown this game, this game, this game. What do you do about potentially getting your money back? I don't know what the recourse is. But I would expect to get my money back. That's what I'm saying. At the very least, if you're not going to let me win a bet,

I should be expecting some type of email being like, hey, we're going to give you your money back. Right? Because that's the next trickle-down of all this. Like we're saying, if so many people lost money on betting on him or the point line and he directly affected it purposely in a negative way or positive way, whatever way you want to call it, like it's like how do those people get their money back or what do you do?

We'll find out. This is the thing for me. Yeah. Dude, NBA does not do it for me. The finals was cool, but I'm like, I grew up in Minnesota. I'm a hockey guy. I feel like this is not good for the league as a whole. I feel like the product of NBA basketball during the regular season, like viewership was kind of down, right?

Like I don't think to me, regular season NBA basketball is not exciting. does not do it for me. And then you add on top of that, you know, a gambling scandal like this, like, it just creates a bad product. I don't think it leads the league in a direction that they want to go in. So to your point, Chris, that's why I think they're going to come down on him with an absolute fucking hammer. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. You're trying to preserve a product that's already kind of in decline. So, I mean, I guess the question. What is the lead to do from here, right? And it really sucks for probably bigger, bigger, bigger, big time players because any time you go into a drought, everyone's going to be like, oh, he's betting. If Steph Curry has enough games where he's not hitting. I don't think Steph's going to be on the top of the watch list. I don't, I don't think, though, I don't think he would be a degenerate. But I'm just saying,

if he had a month where he's just missing threes, like, you know there's going to be an account that has millions and millions of views. There is an account. Look at him right here. He's not shooting the same on purpose. Listen, I, good thing we're not an NBA podcast because then, you know, the podcast might suffer. It's an imperfect product. Guys are betting on games. Not in the NFL. Not in the NFL. Not in the NFL. We haven't, we haven't seen anything this major in the NFL. Let's talk about this big trade. There's a big trade today. Pittsburgh and Miami doing some business. Pittsburgh gets Jalen Ramsey and John Hsu Smith. Miami gets Minka Fitzpatrick and you've got to pick swap. 2027. That's what Pittsburgh comes up with and Miami's got a 20,

27 5th so they end up on top on the pick swap and they get minka back and ramsie and smith head up to pittsburgh um you know i think overall listen a lot of activity yeah don't mistake activity for progress sometimes uh i'm not saying that this is one of those situations but in the nfl and in in the nb a in the nb a i feel like you can make a couple splashy signings especially big names and you know, it creates a lot of excitement. But sometimes those players are maybe a little bit more over the hill or it doesn't address the number one issue on a football team. And we get out over our skis on the thing because of a little bit of activity in the

off season. Like to this point, I would have said, hey, we're there with the Steelers. Like I think the Steelers can win double digit games. If Aaron Rogers looks like the best version of himself, that's a big if because of the Achilles, we've talked about this. You project two years out from an Achilles. the guy's going to be better off than he was the first year out, yet we're making those determinations based on a track record of younger guys coming off of Killies.

So this is a 40-something-year-old quarterback, you know, the D.K. Metcalf signing, but they hadn't really done much defensively. And, you know, I think this defense has to be a big strength that this team wants to win 11, 12 games. I do think Jalen Ramsey helps a lot. I think Jono Smith helps a lot offensively. And now you're seeing this team round into form a little bit. it and they could make some noise. I think the biggest thing when you look at the Steelers over the next two years is,

you know that after this season, they've got a ton of picks in the 2026 draft, right? And so you know they're lining up their team to make a run this year if they can, but they've got that back end cachet of picks. They still have a ton of picks next year. They didn't have to give any up, and they can take this big swing this year. They can sell tickets. It's not very stealer football to just punt on a season. So I understand why the Roonies are saying, hey, we want to try to win this year.

We don't take years off in Pittsburgh. I also think the big thing is, you know, we look at this offense. We'll get to the defense in a second. They're going to be in 13 personnel a lot. Like they're going to have a lot of tight ends on the field. Johnny Smith helps. I love the rack production, run after the catch with him. I think the big question is the offensive line.

Their offensive line coach is Pat Meyer. He's probably the most important guy in the building. If he can coach his ass off and the offensive line takes a big step forward and they develop guys like Broderick Jones, they can be a lot better off. I don't necessarily see that happening, which is why I'm not too bullish on the offense. But maybe they're looking at the Buffalo situation last year and saying,

hey, look, there was a team in Buffalo that said, hey, we've got no real number one. I'm not saying DK is not a number one, but he's not a top end number one. They don't have a lot of wide receiver depth that's proven a lot in this league, right? They have guys that have proven a lot. They're a little bit over the hill.

Robert Woods. Robert Woods, no offense to Robert Woods. Scottie Miller. Scottie Miller, right. They've got some guys that have made plays in the league, but you look at the offense, and it's not some group of high-flying wide receivers. They're going to have tight ends on the field.

They're going to run the football. They're going to get the ball to the backs. Warren's there. Kenneth Gainwell's there. they drafted, what's the kid's name they drafted? He's number two in the depth chart right now, Noel. Caleb Johnson. Who's going to catch the ball in the backfield as well.

And they might, they might, a lot of screens, right? John Hussmith's going to get involved in the screen game, play action. They're going to look more like. Hey, Chris, that's the thing to me that you just said real quick. Play action. You get, Darnell Washington is a big boy. I think he kind of, him and John New Smith are somewhat similar. their like true why kind of you know vibe mentality though but to me like going and getting john new

smith tells me that they want to run the fuck on the ball getting 12 and 13 then block it up when they get in the you know like just past midfield the plus 40 whatever yeah lock it up take deep shots of dk mccath and i think that's actually really smart when you have an aging vet quarterback who's coming off an injury and still hasn't quite proven to be fully healthy like ride your run game ride your defense that's kind of steelers football anyway like that's what they're built for and then, you know, take deep shots and get big chunk plays to D.K. Meccaf. I think it actually makes a ton of sense. I think that's kind of Steelers football. To me, that's Mike Tomlin, kind of knowing what he has, knowing the culture he's built and getting guys to kind of put,

you know, his offense and team really in a winning position. I think it's smart. Makes sense to Matt. To Bo's point, I mean, you're going to be able to run the ball, take shots. I think the quick game is something that Aaron Rogers is really into late in his career. Like, he's not going to take a ton of chances on first, second down. They're going to pepper you with, like, the slants and the quick game. But then, When they can, they're going to get in 13 and block it up and take shots. And I think also these backs catching the ball out of the backfield. Looking at Buffalo last year, I'm not saying they looked at Buffalo,

but a lot of people questioned Buffalo's high-end production offensively because of some of the weapons outside. Steelers, if they can figure out the offensive line, now Josh Allen is one of the best quarterbacks in the league at this juncture. Rogers is not anymore, but Rogers still got some good football in him if he can stay healthy. You never know with this offense. They just have to do enough to play. complimentary football.

Yep. And the lead here is the defense. You know, like you end up with Jalen Ramsey, who, you know, has been in Miami. Now he's, he's going to play probably nickel that probably put Slay and Porter outside, right, Ramsey inside. And with that positional flexibility, you can swap Ramsey and Slay. And that's matchup dependent. If Slay struggles with a bigger, stronger guy, you can put Ramsey out there.

Safety's a bit of a question mark. But our guy, Juan Thornhill, if he's healthy. I don't think it's a minus of a group. They basically said last year like, hey, we're in the AFC North. No one made this point earlier. You're in the AFC North. You've got to deal with a lot of good receivers, especially in like Cincinnati and that sort of thing. So you want to be strong at corner.

And they took a little bit off the safety plate and put a little bit more on the corner plate. And I think actually this could pay off. I mean, and Harmon. Got to be happy, right? Oh, yeah. You think about having probably one of the best bookend groups in the league in High Smith and lot you know like top three to five as an end would you think and her big too and her big two would you would you think hey this might equate to maybe yeah more sack three to five more buckets for me more

time he's got yeah you know like when there's a corner that you can pick on a little bit like that that's going to hurt the fractures of time as we used to call it so now you've got two really solid corners one's been around a long time a hall of famer and then the other one he's a developing player um and so i think this could really help the rushers and and and harm me and the rookie, big domino. If he can play well, this defense can be pretty good. But again, I don't think this team is like a 13-14 win team. Now, all you want to do is getting the dance and win a playoff game.

It's something that's been eluding them for almost a decade, which is very unstealers-like. So I think a playoff win would go a long way in moving the ball forward for them. But is it really a win, though, if you have to reset in a year with all those draft picks and turn the page on the quarterback, right? Like it's a win. It's just to keep people happy, though, if it's not building towards something and the whole deal changes in a year. So I think for Miami, what they end up with is a corner room that's in shambles a little bit.

And the thing that they've got to do to be competitive defensively is that the edge guys have to be healthy and productive. Chubb Phillips, who have had injuries. I think Phillips is one of the best young rushers in the game when he's healthy. He's had a ton of really unfortunate injuries. Chubb is he's a rolling ball of butcher knives and he's healthy, a bunch of power, just a bully kind of player. And they also have Chop Robinson. The interior depth not as good.

You know, Noel, you pointed out. That sealer's good, but beyond that, they don't really have much. We love sealer. On the inside. So that's the whole thing. It's like Miami, listen, Tua's cap hit is $39 million. It climbs to $50 million for the next couple seasons. You can probably part ways with them after 26.

and it'd be like 17 in dead money. I've long been talking about what happens when you pay a quarterback, who's a good player but not the guy that's going to win you a Super Bowl and you sit there with Tua making $39 million. I don't think this team is destined for anything special this year. And I think if you come into a season and you've got a lot to prove and your corner room is in shambles, it's going to be really hard. So Miami's got to do a lot up front to make up for this

and things have to break exactly right. And they've also had a departure of a lot of their leaders, good players, doing part because of the quarterback contract. I also think the culture down there is a little messed up. I do. And their main wide receiver is worried about racing YouTube stars right now. I know you're old school. You don't like people on Twitch.

But I think the bigger issue is just him kind of making the comments he's made about the program down there in the culture. He doesn't seem to be fully happy in Miami. Right. where there were rumors about him wanting to be out of there. Yeah. He's one of those players where if he's not happy and he's not getting the ball, like, you know, I think there's going to be some sort of drama surrounding him

if he's not happy mid-season. Over under a month. Like, I just don't see this Miami experiment. Again, this isn't a new take by me. This is something I've been on is like, I just don't think this. I don't think the quarterback is special enough to over. When a quarterback is paid a lot, you're going to see guys walk. the really special ones can overcome that.

Like we went through it in Buffalo again last year, talking about Buffalo, like, oh, well, they lost all these guys. Like, they're going to take a step back. Well, the quarterback's really special. Maybe they're going to trade Tua. So you can do things. I don't know about that. Who's going to trade for Tua?

I don't know. Let's think about who. I don't think it's happening. I think that's the, you're kind of in purgatory. And I could have told Chris Greer this a couple years ago, but here we are. You know, I wish you listened to Greenlight Pod. Dang, my answer.

My question for you, Chris, is how do you feel about McDaniel's seat headed into the season here? I think it's hot. I think it's hot. And it's unfortunate because I think he's one of the best scheme guys in the league. But for whatever reason, now and there. And I think a lot of it is the quarterback. Like if you've been able to maximize this window, which has been open for a little bit, then we'd be in a different place.

And he have more leeway. But he's not. And I think the QB is a good player. But I don't think he's a game-changing type player. And when you have a defense, it's got as many holes as it has now, you know, I don't know. So the thing is, too, is you can't rely on, too, to be healthy during the entire course of season at this stage in his career. So that's another question mark there. No question.

So you're going to have to win some low-scoring games at times. You know, you saw they had to do that. They got the backup quarterback position a little bit more, a little bit more locked down with a Zach Wilson and that sort of thing. Like you've invested at least a little bit more in it. But, yeah, suffice to say, I don't think Miami's necessarily going anywhere. I don't know the Steelers, I think the Steelers are going to be a tough out at times that they play well. But I don't see them as a team that's going to come out of the AFC with this group. It could be a lot of fun, though.

It could be a lot of fun. I see them having a winning percentage under Mike Tomlin, though. I do. I do, yeah. With everything he's been able to. Yeah, with everything he's been. Unless Rogers is hurt. Unless Rogers is hurt and terrible.

If he's hurt and terrible, you never know. I feel like Tomlin was in the mirror like Birdman this morning, and rubbing his hand. Just happy. Just like, yeah, we got them again, guys. I don't know. We'll see. Got them again, guys.

We'll see. It's been a while since he had him. So, you know? I think this might be the... I think the C-Os will be all right. I think these older vets will mesh the right way with Tomlin and we'll get the younger guys together. What do you think the win total is?

Is like 10 and a half? That's what I was just going to say. I was just going to say. I say 12. It's out. I say 12. I say they hit... 12. Well, let's see. I want to know what the line. What about MGM. Steelers 2025 win total is set at

eight and a half wins. Oh, I'm taking that over. Is that is, is that updated as of like, well, that's got that's updated as of Aaron Rogers. Yeah, Aaron Rogers. Oh, no, no, no. It's, it's from last week. So it might go, I might go up at some point to like nine or nine and a half. I don't know. I thought I did, I think, I think I just seen a, um, something say that like, Well, there's Super Bowl odds. But everybody's going to hammer the over on this because of everything we just talked about. Now they have Aaron Rogers. They got all these players they've added.

Like there's buzz. That makes me a little bit nervous. If that number doesn't budge, that a lot of people are going to look at eight and a half as free money on the over. Oh, that's Cleveland's win total? Malik Beasley is betting the over this morning. The rest of the AFC North, Ravens 11.5, Bengals, 9 and a half. Bengals 9 and a half and Browns 4.5. All right.

Well, we got to move on here. That was a team totals. We were complaining about not having any NFL news and then there you go. So, hey, here's the deal. I went and saw a movie last night like 28 years later. It was awesome. Couldn't wait to see it. None of you all have seen it.

I don't think. I cannot wait to see that movie. No, I'm stoked about it though. There's a couple. Dude, I love that franchise. A couple very interesting decisions in the movie. No question about it. But it was it was a movie.

that I intended to take some extracurriculars and go to and my wife took me to Target and after the movie was like or after Target was like let's go to the movies like I know you wanted to see that movie uh I said sure uh and I'm really glad I didn't bring anything because that would have been a bad trip dude that movie is like that movie is intense I wouldn't say scary necessarily zombies and stuff right yeah but it's it's it's it's an intense like high-paced kind of the camera angles are all fucking crazy and you feel like you're yeah like it's it's It's shot like you're a zombie, dude. It's crazy.

So as a big fan of 28 days later, never really got into 28 weeks later, but 28 years later is pretty good. I mean, it's a totally different movie, but it's very good. Now, the other thing I was going to say is, Bo, last night, I got home,

and I had some time, and I decided to watch the Love Island. Yeah. You saw the Heart rate challenge? You saw it last night? Oh, the opener. Yeah. This season opener.

I didn't want to start like, you know. No, I know. But last night was the heart rate challenge, which is like one of the raciest ones. We're at my cabin. We put it on the porch and the projector. It was me and my sister-in-law, my brother, my dad,

and my sister's like, dad, you got to go inside. You can't watch a heart rate challenge. She was like, what do you mean? And then it was like the first scene. Basically they strap heart rate monitors on everyone. They give to like,

see who can make everyone's heart rate rise the most. Right. basically by like doing fucking, uh, whatever, giant, like stripper moves like twer. Like, no, like serious, twerking lap dance. And so my dad just literally just got up in the left. They were like, thank God.

But no, the big rumors that Huda is a midnight ballerina. It's whatever I'm not TikTok saying. It was a midnight ballerina. Stripper. Oh, really? Yeah. I never heard that called that. Yeah.

I never heard that term. Have you heard that term? But the. before no you haven't i just way too long a pause so now that's basically solidified though like that is that has gone from speculation to lore after last night's episode she was clapping her heels bro all the girls got pissed through she was dancing on a sorry to interrupt you just had to let all that out on ace i was your first watching on ace yeah okay well ace was like ace was like caleb williams out there bro like their teams were just tripping over themselves to draft them

so um hudda hudda the first thing i noticed is she's He's like, yeah, I'm a single mom. So I just decided to leave my kid at home for six weeks. Well, I got a ballerina. You know? Where's, that's a crazy thing. Is it not? Like red flag a little bit there.

Yeah, you know what's so funny that there's, that's one of many with her. That's the first, that's the first thing I said to my girl when watching this. I was like, if I got an argument or I didn't like this girl and I knew she had a kid, the first thing that would be in my mind is just like, where's your kid? Where's your kid, Huda? your kid hudda she's got a two she's got a two bedroom in LA and uh she's a single mom dude that's crazy and and then and i gotta say like overall i'm not like blown away with the talent on the show it's not like i'd be watching for the talent i just was saying that that's the

iris is going to be a new person so that's the thing that's the thing that's the bring in law about the show they bring in bombshells like guys and girls at different time to spice things up yeah then other people get kicked off. Okay. Yeah, so they bring in new bombshells, and if they couple up with people who are already coupled up, like if you're the last man out, you get voted off. Can I,

so I don't watch Love Island. Who are the two people in this meme? What was the date? It was just like. Well, that's Huda, and I think I forget. Huttas in the top? Yeah.

That's Iris. Okay. Okay, here's the deal. I'm not going to continue. No, the meme ability of this show is incredible. I don't think it's like. You don't need to. You have.

you have your live correspondent right here i'm up to date no i know but i just wanted to see brother yeah you see how much more locked in i am on hot on love island than NBA basketball yeah yeah i mean i would gamble on this shit bo-blanc was austin high in the beginning does you think austin's high dumb as a boxer's he's like yo when they introduced him he was like they were doing the introduction he's sitting in that like set where they're supposed to dance around and shit and he's like he's like this is cool there's so many colors yeah it's like jeez so funny nobody home i've watched a lot of trash tv yeah like i watched love on the spectrum which is a surprisingly great show oh but i'm watching love i don't i feel like there's a little bit of a

bend diagram there we're like austin probably could have been on both you think you think austin you think austin should have been a two sports star oh my god dude you're seeing the first episode and they do a good job of kind of making each character being like oh he's He's cool. He's cool. And then by the second or third episode, you'd be like, yo, he's a, you're a loser. Okay. Well, I'll never see that.

And the last one is this. Can I just say one thing about this episode last night? Sure. It was fucking crazy. It was the heart rate challenge and all the girls were pissed at Huda because she went and danced on Ace and like they took him and, uh, Ace is just, Chris was, but there's a lot of trouble here. I'm going to try.

She put her, she put her cooter on his face. Her cooter? No, no. They blocked it out. They blocked it out. It blocked it out too and it was super dramatic. Everyone online thinks that Ace got a huge boner because he was wearing a tiny little leotard.

Like he was dressed like a stone. Yeah. And so everyone's kind of speculating what happened. And there were some very obvious cuts. And then Shelley got super pissed at Hottom was like, wow, I can't believe you do that. And she was like, it was a challenge. So like everyone's speculating that either Ace got a boner

or she like grabbed his dick or like there's a lot of lore here to dig into. And I really have to like, I got to get up to. be because the memes are really like it's information comes out quickly here and these internet swoos on tic-tok for the show are pretty incredible not going to see i'll do that i just wanted you know that i'm not going to continue to watch the show it just doesn't do it for me before we go i wanted to pitch something to you guys oh hate island controversial personalities and leaders of various hate groups selected by the s lpc that's the southern law poverty center amnesty international and the

fbi i don't know fucking hey hey hey hey the bahamas hey for eight no it's got to be like a shitty island. Well, I didn't want to pick an island and then we wouldn't be popular there. There's only the UK. There's only one rule, no violence. Oney island. Easy. The Grand Wizard of the KKK, current leader of the Taliban,

Hibbatula, Akunzada, Kim Jong, Oon, and Jesse Waters from Fox News are reportedly inked for season one. You know what's crazy? This would do numbers. The next Love Island season, they should put all these hot people, but then like one regular ass person.

like one just sloppy ass dude walks in like named dennis and he's just he's just he's hideous he hasn't had a haircut he's got a big beer gut and just watch him go undrafted yeah somebody's got to fuck him i watch the barbie movie over the weekend with my buddies it's like fucking allen from the barboring yes which is by the way the barbie movie great movie is fire dude great movie mojo dojo cost a house bro all right and and here's um that was like florabama shore there was always one guy who was the dude who like who was ugly he was the other the hot girls like best friend oh like there's always one guy on that show that was like the party dude yeah but you know he wouldn't i kind of like i like that wrinkle but i also really like i really like hate island i might yeah i don't

hate island would go dude it was all right anyways charleston white would be on man charleston white yeah it'll be it'll be yeah it'll be yeah it'll be great all right so now we got baldy all right now now the main event of the show, the one, the only Brian Baldinger, aka Baldi, who I was just in Vegas with the Sachs Summit. Here we are again. What's up, Baldy? How are we doing, man? We survived, didn't we, Chris? Yeah, we did. I mean, it's not easy. It's not easy, man. It used to be a lot of easier to go to Vegas, you know, 10 years ago when we were all younger and sleep wasn't the most important thing in our lives and, you know, no amount of alcohol really affected us. But those things have all changed,

Chris. Yeah. So what age for you was it when Vegas was. Well, you know, what's funny, Chris, is my parents lived in Vegas for 25 years. Oh, no way. So I used to go, when I was working NFL Network a lot in L.A., I would like leave Friday show, drive to Vegas, right, and hit it a little I'd get up Saturday, spend the day with my parents, right, early dinner, lunch, hanging out, all that kind of stuff. And then I'd hit it with the boy Saturday night to whatever, you know, hit the tables, hit the clubs, the whole thing. And then I would like, you know, limp back to L.A., you know.

And I did that for a long time, you know. And what happened was, you know, as the years cut going by, like that recovery time on Saturday night, no matter how much fun you had, like, it just kept getting lost. longer and longer and longer to where, you know, you could actually function again the next day. And I was like, I got to like, you know, I just needed more time. So I just started cutting it down. But probably like, I don't know, like I'm in my 60s now, but probably like in my 50s. I really noticed.

I'm ahead. I'm ahead of the game, baldy. Because, hey, I'm very proud of now. You got youth on your side, Chris. Yeah, but I'm proud to announce. So I stayed in two out of three nights in Vegas, watch some movies. End up throwing gold finger on the little James Bond on the Apple TV for last night and kind of just looked out at the strip. I was like, hey, you know what?

I'm not going to let FOMO win. I'm staying in the house. And it was a good time that we were there for, we were there for a reason, which helps, right? You know, we were there all day, Thursday. We were doing drills and we were watching film for the SAC summit. We had our poker tournament Thursday night. Those guys, Von Miller, Max Crosby, Cam Jordan. did a fantastic job putting this thing together.

Baldy, to the point where I told the guys, and maybe you heard me say this, I'm jealous of y'all. Yeah. You know, like, I'm not an easy person to make jealous. I'm not jealous of y'all's big contracts. Good for you, the whole thing. But what I am jealous of is you all have this resource that we didn't have,

and I think it would have helped our generation. And so kudos to Max, to Vaughn, to Cam, for getting this thing done. Well, you're right, Chris. And, you know, I mean, and really Vaughn, you know, this is ninth year. and Bond kind of had the vision of it. But, you know, it wouldn't well receive in Denver and by other people, like sharing your trade secrets, you know, with the enemy, you know. Fans didn't like it.

Teams didn't like it. He just kind of brushed his shoulders at the whole thing going, this is the fraternity, this is what we do. And I think the cool thing right now is, you know, I think I mentioned it, but like a guy like Milton Williams, a guy that you're a big fan of, goes from Philly to New England and free agency, he gets a second contract. and you could feel like everybody was happy for milk. You know, the whole fraternity was happy for them.

And I think that's cool because we all have a very limited amount of time that we can play this game. You want to maximize your time on the field. And even some of the things that you brought up, Chris, about, you know, get the second opinion on injuries. Don't go out there and play hurt. Some of the things that you get pressured in to do as a good teammate might not be the best thing for you long term. But even to bring that up and to share that, because we share more than just pastroves. You know, it's team. It's, you know, how teams view you.

It's free agency. There's a lot of things that go into some of the right business and career. Yeah. And so, you know, we're talking about, you know, how to recover, you know, how to best treat your body. Because a lot of these kids, I mean, I saw you sitting out of the table. I mean, I think the cool thing is, you know, when we were indoors talking, there's Nolan Smith, Jr., from the Eagles. sitting, you know, sitting and talking to you and watching Nolan walk out, you know, onto the buses with Vaughn. And to see these young guys, there's just getting started hearing some of this stuff that maybe, maybe we trigger something that helps them in their career long term.

And I think, I think there is no, there is no non-benefit to that. That can only be a good thing. No question. I think what's cool about it is, like, when you're in a D-Line room, you're lucky to have vets at all in this, this generation of the NFL, like when I came in the NFL and certainly when you were in the NFL, there were a lot of older players, right? And so now you enter in the NFL and maybe the oldest guy in your room is like seven years, which I mean, that is, that's getting up there in today's NFL. And to make it seven years, you have to accrue a lot of knowledge and have a lot

of experience. But there's nothing like having like a 12, 13 year guy in your room. And another thing is, like, when you're in your room, you usually don't have, if you're a unique body type guy, a guy that you can learn from that's exactly like you because all past rushers are different like look in that room and there's like 30 different body types like you got your von millers you got your george carloftus you've got your um you've got your nolan smith you know like you've got some of the de-tackles in there and everybody's different in your d-line room you might not have a vet and you might not have somebody with your body type and what i think is so cool is you walk in that room and somebody has your play style yeah yeah you know somebody plays a little bit like you like there were certain guys that were

asking me for advice at different turns in the weekend. And I would tell him, I'd be like, hey, listen, you're a lot quicker than me. You're a lot faster than me. You might want to listen to Vaughn on this thing. You might actually have a shot at Sinking at Ghost Rush. Yeah. And there's certain guys that I said, hey, buddy, when Vaughn's talking about the Ghost Rush, you just come over here with me and we'll work on the long arm. Because that ain't happening for you. And so I think what's really cool is you got number one, you got veterans. Number two, you have people that are just like you, chances are in that room. And I think you can kind of tailor make the weekend or whatever you wanted to be. And I think it was so cool.

And to your point, it's not just technique. It's also all the extracurricular style. Yeah, but even like, you know, Clayas Campbell's there, right? So you talk about body types. I mean, there's one of Clayas Campbell, right? There's one guy that's 6-8 and 290 that looks like that or whatever Clay is. And there he is, you know, on the field the other day, and he's got that jug of water in his hand. You know, he's like he's hydrating out there. It's just not, you know, and so, yes, the body type thing is real because, you know, we sit there, getting ready for the draft and we study all these guys, and I see Jalen Walker there, right?

I mean, I asked Jaila Walker because I saw him play off the ball inside linebacker, pass rush. Well, you know, he's a pass rusher now. And so now you watch his bend and you watch, you know, some of the elite traits that he has. Well, it's different than Max. You know, and so he doesn't have the length that Max has, but he's got a great burst and he's got a great bend.

And so now you start catering your pass rush. you know to somebody like that so that and not everybody like to your point in your training camp d-line room of you know 10 12 guys whatever it is you know you might not have another guy like that in the room where you can learn from right exactly and and so i mean like somebody like buffalo signed uh what's the kids name the buffalo defa i keep uh land in lincoln jackson yeah landin jackson from Arkansas yeah had a great time talking to him at the cigar bar there um whatever night that was Thursday night. And, you know, this is kind of a twofold thing. But number one, I saw him four years ago when his, his tape went viral doing drills out of high school. He's at some camp. Yeah. And he looked

like he didn't know what he was doing like many of us do when we do bags for the first time. Like bags and bags is not football. It helps. But it ain't football. Like, and he was struggling. He was drinking from a fire hose at this camp. And he went viral for it. And people were making fun of him the whole thing. Fast forward four years later, I'm watching draft. And I'm like, that's the kid. You know, I was so happy for him to make that jump and really happy for him to walk out on the field and see him doing the bags. And he looked really good. You know, he's developed a great deal. And they're obviously going to need him in Buffalo. But I think what's so cool about him is sitting down and talking to him like, his body type is Max Crosby. Yeah. You know, not to say they're making.

All arms and legs, man. Yeah. Yeah. So, you've got your guy there to learn from, you know, like you've got your body type there to learn from. A guy that I got to learn from over the weekend and, you know, me, I've been out seven years, but I'm still learning is Justin Houston. Yeah. Justin Houston was a guy who rushed like me at times. Like I, you know, tried to rush like Justin Houston with a lot of long arm, a lot of power, a lot of swipes off the power.

Yeah. And sitting there talking to Justin, just me and him about swipe technique. There were things that he did that were a little. bit different that, hey, if we had this sack summer when I played, I could have really enjoyed some of those coaching points from a guy who was at the top of his game. So it's really cool to show up to this thing and find your guy. Like if I was a player, I would have found one guy and followed him around. And that would have been the guy for me. But every guy has a guy like that, which is really cool, man. I thought Landon Jackson looked great. Yeah. I also want to say this, Max, man, you know

we love Max, but watching him do drills in person, I turned to his buddy, uh, Roeback, his co-host. Yeah. You know, uh, on, on the rush. And I said, how the fuck did 32 teams take that long to draft a guy like Max Crosby, watching him do this bag work? I mean, he's just, he ain't just a hustle guy. No. I mean, he's got tremendous talent.

He is the culmination of what happens when talent meets work ethic meets smarts and the whole thing. I mean, he's got it all. Well, unfortunately or fortunately, Chris, Max hits me up every either Sunday night or Monday night, every week for six straight years in a row. Have you watched the tape yet? Have you watched it? What did you think? Like, I'm like, Max, look, I do have a life. I do have some other things I got to get done beside watching, but I'll get to your tape. I'll get to it. Yeah. Because honestly, to your point, like I nicknamed him the conduit, and it sort of took off. He named his closing line to conduit. He looked like, you know,

So I'm just watching his game, and he's a fourth-round pick out of Eastern Michigan, whatever, and Colts are playing, you know, the Raiders. And I see this guy in the second quarter chasing his play down, and he's got this strip fumble 15 yards down the field. And I kind of go crazy over it. It's one of those things that catches your eye. And I'm like, I named the Condor. And, you know, it kind of stuck, but like it's all arms and legs and effort.

But then once I started really watching it, I don't think there's anybody in this game today that defeats the run. You talk about pass rush and that's important. And there's nobody that defeats the run quicker than he does. I don't know it's because he sees it so quickly. But whatever it is, he has the answer to it, whether it's a swim, whether it's just to dip underneath the trap coming out of him. But his recognition in the run game is something that honestly,

at the summit, we should actually pay attention. too because obviously you get that right to rush the quarterback when you stop the run. But his his run ability to stop the run is second to none. And he can bend in any position. Like you see him like there's no way he should get out of this Tray Smith track right here. And he's like, I mean, like he's Gumby, you know, just coming out of it. That's what he is. He's gumby.

He's got great flexibility, great length and great Twitch, which like to have that length and have those two other things. Like most people don't have that. And I also think he talks about this guy a lot, but Rod Marinelli was in Vegas. And that is a gift. To have that as a young player, Rob Marinelli,

one of the great defensive line coaches in NFL history. I know he still talks to Rod. I think he was texting with him, you know, over the weekend or whatever. So like Rod is, having a coach like that definitely rubbed off on him. You can see with the effort, with the technique, with the attacking mindset in the run game, which you mentioned,

a lot of people get that loss. Like, there are guys that play blocks very true, and they fit everything up perfectly and that sort of thing. And, like, that's one type of run defense guy. And then there's another guy that just, he's on his track and he's going to be three yards in the backfield. And I think Max is one of those guys. He's got great balance.

He's not knocked off his track ever. And he also, he's a great finisher. Like, Baldi, like, that's half the battle. as like being able to make the plays when you put yourself in the position to make him. And he does a great job of that. So just wanted to sit there and hype up Max for a second. I got to go on the rush and seeing, you know, Landon Jackson out there, kind of trying to emulate him was pretty cool.

And then you get your guys listen to Von Miller and Vaughn's like, you know, this is what I do. Sometimes I won't even let the guy touch me and we're looking around. I'm like, I don't know if y'all could take his advice on this one. Yeah. There's only one guy like Von Miller. And then hearing Cam Jordan talk about power rush and being a bully, it's like he's a totally different rusher. So I thought it was awesome, man.

It was a great weekend. I love the film session, too, that you put on in that room full of 30, you know, wide-eyed, eager, young players who were eating up every word. I thought that was awesome. Well, it's it, you know, one of the things, you know, we had a couple intermissions there where we kind of, you know, shut it down for a few minutes. And we had some sponsors step up and say some things. But one of the cool things, Chris, was seeing Justin Houston and George Karloftus, they came up and, you know, they were both talking. Obviously, you know, Carlis drafted by the Chief Justin, you know, one of the great careers in the history of the NFL and 14. He had 22 sacks with Kansas City, but started in Kansas City, you know, and then playing a couple other places.

But like if you are playing with the Chiefs, and I'm good friends with Bill Moss like, you know, your dad is, you know, you learn pretty quickly. going back to Buck Buch Buchanan, Boogie Bell, Bill Moss, Neil Smith, like, you know, Derek Thomas, Jared Allen, there is a lineage of pass rush when you go to the chiefs. And to hear like George Carloftus go, before I ever put my helmet off, I heard this speech, you know, from Clark Hunt, you know, and what we have here. And I don't know that that goes on. Not everybody has the lineage of pass rushers that the chiefs have had, but everybody has. as somebody. But I think it's pretty cool while they kind of link it all together. And, you know,

it goes to the past. I mean, obviously you can look up in the Ring of Honor and see a lot of the names. But, you know, to actually make that come to life when you become a cheap, like, it's not just Chris Jones. You know, like this thing has been going off for a long, long time back to Neil Smith and all these other names. And I thought that was one of the cool things that I got watching those two guys talk to me during one of the intermissions. Well, Baldy, I can relate a little bit, getting drafted at the Rams and seeing, you know, like when we were in St. Louis, Deacon Jones came and talked to us before he passed away. I mean, you had Merlin Olson.

Jack Youngblood is a dear friend of mine, somebody who I'm lucky enough to say, like, hey, I can text Jack and he'll hit me back. And he was always, he was always kind of supporting me while I played. And that blows your mind. Like, you're just like, man, I can't believe there's so many legends around this team. And then you've got the Kevin Carter's, the Leonard Littles, the Robert Quinn's, the Aaron Donalds, the Grant Winstroms, you know, our group was real good. So it just was like, you know, the Rams are another team like that. And speaking from experience, like when you walk into a situation like that and guys are around the building, it helps.

You know, guys are guys, I remember Deacon Jones is sitting in our D-Line room. Yeah. You know, coaching us up. Now, of course, we can't do the head slap. But that was a cool experience. So definitely know what you're talking about there. and I would put, I don't know who's got the best D-line lineage of all time, but the Chiefs and the Rams have to be in the top three to five.

There's no way. Well, just the age we've mentioned, I'm sure we're leaving some out. Yeah. But, you know, the fearsome force of them, I mean, Deacon Jones, Merlin Olson, they weren't even keeping stats back then. Like, who knows, you know, but, I mean, you could go chargers and you could go way back to Louis Kelcher and, you know, some of the guys, you know, that came through that, you know,

through that franchise, you know, the junior seowl. And, you know, I mean, you can just go on and on and on and on me all the way up to Khalil and Joey and the whole group, man, right now. And now we got Jared Burs. And Jared Burs. And Braden Fisk and those young guys. So, yeah, it just keeps going. Hey, before you got to Vegas, and this is something me and Pablo Torre talked about briefly,

that I thought you were going to be out four to six weeks, but you've healed really well. There was a hamstring incident in the, what airport was this that you were, you were this is a Miami airport, Chris. Miami airport. Yeah. take the folks through what happened in this situation? Well, first of all, let's just start this conversation off by saying, getting old sucks.

We all know that, okay? And so anybody that's played this game, they're going to wake up on certain days. You've already started to feel it seven years out, Chris. Obviously, your dad goes through it. But like, you wake up some days, you're like, what the hell did I do yesterday? And why can't I bend my elbow? What did I do? Did I throw 100 pitches yesterday?

I can't bend my elbow. And you're like, what happened? But it's just one of those things. Like two days later, like nothing happened. So, you know, typical, like I completely lose track of time and get to the Miami airport. I'm completely off. And I'm rushing to get to the airport. And, you know, on my phone, we're 20 minutes out.

And they're already initiating the boarding for my flight to Vegas. And I don't want to be that jerk that misses the flight and has to call up, you know, Vaughn's people or, you know, the Saxon's people are, you know, the Saxman's people going, hey, miss my flight, can you book? I don't want to be that guy. So I'm like, all right, let's just battle this. So, you know, I do the move, which is, gets everybody pissed off. But I go, I see the TSA line, and I go right to the front. I cut in front of an entire snake, and I throw my bags on the belt, you know, and whatever somebody was saying behind me, I'd pretend like I didn't hear, right? And what I'll do, you know, in the great world of

balancing this all out. The next time I see somebody do that to me, and I got time, I'm not going to say it work. There you go. Yeah. Like, they just go. So I get through, and as I get through and I pick up my bag, I hear last call for Las Vegas.

I'm 20 gates away. I'm like, thinking it's last call. Like, I'm this close. Let's make a dash. Now, I start, I got my bags. I start making. in the dash and I go like the old just I just grabbed

a hammock Chris like that thing went like it was up high up by the attachment it was right where the buttocks meets that you know the you know the the hamstrings like it's up high and like I'm like maybe maybe I didn't really feel let's walk it off a little bit

let's go so I make the second verse and I'm like it hits me again I'm like I'm geared to just well I got to walk this thing like maybe you know Maybe I'm just under the lucky star. I made the flight, Chris. That's crazy, but you didn't.

It didn't show, man. You were out there doing the drills. You were out there running the film walking around the casino. I didn't even notice a break in your gate, dude. You look great. Yeah, but fortunately, I don't have to run anymore for anything. And so, like, I don't need that burst that the hamstring provides. I can just look like a slow old guy right now.

You swim more than you run because you're out there. You're out there with your scurry gear all this. Absolutely. It's good day to die today, man. I've already checked out the waters. It's clean, clear, and warm right now. You know, diving. I'm going out past the buoys today.

You're crazy. You're crazy. You're diving in Florida. You know how many sharks there are? Yeah. No, I want to see sharks. They don't scare you. It's kind of the goal.

Yeah. Like, you know, there's sharks are like, they're like little puppies. You know, it's like going to a pet store. You know, and then, you know, the lemon sharks, they just swim underneath you. They go by you now. If there's a bull shark in the water, Chris, obviously, I'm getting out of the water. Like, I'm not going to irritate it. But I'm going to find a way to get out of the water.

She's going to leave that guy right there. Okay. So that kind of leads me into my next question, which is, you popped your hamstring. You've got a lot of miles on your tires. So do I. But you played back in, like, the 90s, man, like early 90s. What was your last year, Baldy? My last year was 94.

We started in 82. So you were like, and my dad played in the same era. man like y'all really worked differently and one of the things i came away from at the sack summit saying was like this generation works smart we worked really hard yeah and we worked dumb my generation and i'm sure you feel the same way about your generation a lot of ways but i kind of wonder like sometimes i talked about it i say how did y'all do it like how did you physically get through it how grueling was it to play in the 80s in the early 90s compared to this generation and watching the way they take care of things.

It was, like, looking back on it, it was just brutal. We signed, I started in Dallas, I was a free agent, but, you know, my rookie year, we signed 110 free agents. You know, so it was the ultimate reality TV show back then, and we had 15 rookies. There was 12 rounds in draft. We had 15 rookies, so we had 125 guys looking six rookies made the team that year. And literally, because we were basically just the, like, the car, you know, the dummy squad. So my job was to go give Randy White 16 zone blocks

and his backup, Don Smirik, 16 zone blocks in this inside drill. 32 straight plays in a row, just inside drill. You know, and that was, that was, you know, then we go on to the next drill. And it was every, every drill was live, every drill was fully padded. It was conditioning after the morning practice

after the afternoon practice. But what used to make me laugh is it was so brutal that, and the money was so little, that literally we go out there to start just to walk out to the field and begin to stretch and warm up and guys just turn around and walk back in

and turn their pads and just checked out like, I'm not going to do this anymore. You saw guys just quit on the spot. Just quit on the way out to practice like just turned around and just said you know what? You know, just send me home. I'm good man.

Like that was it. Like it was just, it was like that. And there was, you know, it was six weeks of it. So, you know, like sometimes you can see the light at the end of the tunnel. Like there was no light for the first month of this.

You didn't even think about preseason game. Like nothing. And, you know, the vets played in preseason games. They all started these games. So everybody played. Now, they might not play the whole game, but they all played. You know, like, I remember the first preseason game ever was at, like, the rookies didn't even play. It was like the veterans got all the rounds.

Right. So you didn't even get a chance. But I'm saying that at the same time, that those six weeks and two days and all that, that allowed me, you know, to make my name and to show that I belonged. and I don't know that I could get the same look today in today's world, the way practice, you know, is consummated. Right. And y'all were like the way it sounded like guys were like drinking beers when you got back to the dorms.

And because it was just like it was blue collar. It was just like dudes would just sit around drinking beers and go back out the next day and work their ass off and break themselves down and then build themselves back up again, a couple beers. Well, it's the distress. Like I remember one year like, so we were in Thousand Oaks and you're, like, so we were in thousand oaks in your dad, the Raiders were an Oxnard. So they're not very far apart.

They're probably 30 minutes apart. Yeah. So we go up there a scrimmage one day. And, you know, I mean, it's just one massive brawl. There's a fight after every, you know, not that your dad was, but gold. That might be an oxnard. They're all wrong. Yeah.

We're all wrong. So we come back. We change. Now we're going to go out. We have the night off. It's Saturday night. We have the night off. And Raiders and Cowboys are meeting at this, you know, this outdoor barn and a marina.

and drinks are being served. Like now we just fought each other all afternoon long, and now we're at the bar drinking beers with each other. Like it was the ultimate, like, like, that's, and like all the fans that came, you know, I mean. Like a movie. It was like a football movie. Yeah, you couldn't, you couldn't script it like that, you know?

Because we fought the Cowboys in Oxnard. It's just, I feel like Oxnard has got some, some bad juju there where teams fighting, each other, but it was a lot different. We didn't see anybody after and we didn't have the kind of the schedule you all had where you can go out and drink some beers. Although Jeff Fisher gave us beers on the bus after we, we fought the Cowboys. He told us we kicked their ass, so here's some beers.

Well, Randy White back in the day did a commercial for Miller Light. So they would literally deliver 120 cases of Miller Life for training camp in their room. So we just, we just came down and he was roommate with John Donton. It was all de-lined. So, you know, you can finish practice. You just go down in Randy's room and pick up your beers, you know. And we purposely, I mean, back in the day, we purposely didn't drink any water during practice. But three beers after practice, you could get that good beer buds right away.

You get yourself for a meeting, you know. No question. That's crazy. Y'all had to feel like hell, dude, but just you didn't know any better. You didn't know any better, man. We were just surviving, surviving back then, man. Now the guy's got the hyperbaric chambers in their rooms. Randy White had a thousand years.

It was even an ice bath back then. You know, eventually, you know, they thought, oh, ice tubs would be a good thing after these practices. So, you know, those guys, we got that at the end of my career. But he was just different, you know, because I remember when I was in the Cowboys, we had an all-season basketball team and you could make extra money, you know, some real cash if you were young, you know. And Drew Pearson ran the team. And he booked this trip with the Reds.

The Washington Redskins where they came in Metis at DFW's airport and a yellow school bus. So 12 Cowboys, 12 Redskins literally played charity basketball games, barnstorming the state of Texas. No way. Or seven straight nights in a row of. No way. It's like the Globetrotters, man. It was a Globetrotters. We did that with the Globetrotters up in Iowa, too.

We had a back-to-back night with those guys. And it was so funny. Like we were in Fort Dodge, Iowa playing the Globetrotters. and we had a 7 o'clock show and a 9 o'clock show. And so back then, like cash was king. So you come back from the 7 o'clock show and they're counting the money for you. Right?

So you got 400 in your pocket. And then you do the 9 o'clock show. You get 400 more. And then we all went out to some diner. And we all ate and drank your asses off. That's great. Yeah. Oh, I spent half of it that night.

Yeah, probably. Yeah. Who was the best basketball player on that Dallas team? Everson Walls was really good. He was great play. Mark Tooney, he was a great player. Really? You know, he was literally, you know, one of those Polynesians, you know, like...

Yeah, dude. The basketball was like a great fruit in his hand. You know, he's playing both ways. He's playing offensive tackle, defensive tackle one year, both ways. And he could take a basketball at 275 and dunking any way you wanted to dunk it. Was that one of the first big... Like, that was one of the first biggest O lines, right? Like the Dallas O-Line.

But it really, like in 84, we got Crawford Kerr, we had 2 and A, we had Gogin. You know, we had, you know, we had a bunch of guys that were, you know, 310, 315, 320. Newton probably came in at 400 and got down to 350. He was a problem for everybody right away. He was a natural athlete and then ended up having a great career. But yeah, it started getting big real fast. I would say so. I would say so in the spirit of training campuses, we're just telling training camps.

so far. Who had in your years of covering the NFL, who has had the worst training camp? By worst, I mean, you're watching. You're like, damn. I mean, I used to hear about Andy Reid at Lehigh. You hear about Dick Vermeal in Philly. I know Sean Payton's got a hell of a training camp, but who takes the cake in your opinion as you've seen so many of them? You know, Andy, Andy still runs a hard camp, but those camps at Lehigh, I remember like, going up there and covering them doing all the stuff I was doing back then. And, you know, there's Trotter, like, taking Westbrook to the ground, like it's game day. Like full on.

Yeah, like, it means thrillers live. But even if you go out to La Trobe right now, I mean, I remember I was out there a couple summers ago, and I mean, I got a couple buddies that, you know, worked there or whatever. So I'm just hanging out waiting. Here comes Tomlin. And so he's like, we known each other a long time. So he goes, well, you just watch today's practice, do whatever you got to do. I'll give you a coach's pass, but I want you to tell me at the end of practice,

am I a dinosaur? Are we, is anybody else doing what we're doing? Like, there was a day literally when I was there, every single drill was live. There's T.J. on the goal line, you know, taking down J.L. Warren, keeping them out of the end zone. Like, pads were popping. It was pretty cool. It was watching. See. So what do you think about them? Speaking of Pittsburgh, what do you think about Pittsburgh this year with the news that broke

this morning. Well, I mean, I'm going to make a Fitzpatrick fan. Like, you know, when he got traded in his second year from Miami in Pittsburgh, like literally the first game ever, he got traded on Tuesday. He was starting for Pittsburgh on a Sunday. Yeah. And he had two takeaways that day. And, you know, he was, he was money. And he was, he loved it and loved Tom Loon, loved playing in Pittsburgh. But, you know, you look at him in the last two years, Chris, he has one takeaway in the last two years, you know. And honestly, Deshaun Elliott was probably probably a better player last year. He's probably faster, probably a better tackle.

And so Jalen Ramsey wasn't coming. He wanted to be to play for the dolphins. He's going to sit out. They had to do something for him. Janu Smith played for Arthur Smith in Tennessee. He always loved him. They need a tight end, especially a move tight end like that. And so I think Pittsburgh, I will see what Jail was like.

But, I mean, you know, you get Slay, you get Jailoramsie. You get, you know, Porter. Like, you can lock up pretty good on the outside. in some of these corners. I feel like Pittsburgh got the better deal right now. Yeah, the thing we were talking about was, you know, having Jalen able to play nickel and switch Darius Layout, depending on the matchup,

so you have some positional flexibility there. I think adding another tight end. You mentioned Johnny Smith, who I think is the third stop with Arthur Smith. You know, if you go Tennessee, Atlanta and now here. Yep. I kind of likened it. It's not the same thing as Buffalo last year.

right because Josh is what Aaron was in his prime like as far as being elite um but you know people bemoan the lack of wide receiver power that they had in Buffalo before the season um and it's kind of a similar thing you know with the departure of George Pickens people are like how you're going to make it work with just one you know bona fide number one guy if you call him that and dK Metcalf well they got three tight ends that they're going to use regularly yeah they're going to throw the ball to the guys out of the backfield and that's kind of like what A lot of screen game, that sort of thing. That's kind of what got Buffalo through last year.

I'm not saying they're going to be that dominant at all. But I wouldn't put it past them to look pretty competent. The only thing for me is the offensive line. They really have to develop, give these guys a chance offensively. But the defense looks pretty good. And you know, Russian coverage, man, having another, you know, great corner is going to make it even easier on a front that features, you know, Watt, Highsmith, Herbig. You got the big draft pick. You got Hayward who was playing great last year.

Benton, they're really stacked up front. Well, you know, they had a kid they drafted last year, Roman Wilson. They never played last year. Got hurt. Miss a season. Yeah, he could.

So they, you know, the word, you know, pretty close to a couple guys there. They say they had a great offseason. We'll see. That's good.

You know, but the offense line is something, you know, Andy Weidel and Omar Kahn been trying to build down. And so, you know, Fott, it was a first round pick last year got hurt in the first game.

Jack Frazier was a rookie in the lineage of positions. It might be anybody in this league that could do anything better than Center than Pittsburgh Steelers have done in that position over the course of 50 years. But, you know, going back to Webby,

Mike Webster, but I think if you put Broderick Jones, Isaac, Frazier, McCormick, and Fontno up front and you coach him up. That might be a pretty good group right now. You got to coach him up, right?

Yes, we talked about development. Yeah, a lot of teams, the Eagles, one of the best in the league. That's where Seamalu came from. And they got, because of Stalatlin, they really developed guys. Like Jordan Milata wasn't Jordan Mila until he got there and learned how to play football and that sort of thing. You know, obviously Fontaineau coming off an injury, Broject Jones being a mauler that's got to really learn how to use his hands without holding and grabbing.

Frazier looks like a good player. Samalo is a good vet. like McCormick, it could come together. But if I had one question about this team right now, it's that offensive line, especially considering they have a quarterback who's two years off in Achilles is 41, 42 years old, or however old he is.

Yeah. No, I mean, look, it's, I mean, protecting Aaron is paramount. But, you know, every quarterback's going to get hit. Every quarterback is going to get chased. I mean, these defensive coordinators, you know, free hitters are the quarterback. I mean, you can break your protections down. And so, you know, how does Aaron respond?

Because it wasn't, you mean, he had some good moments last year, but wasn't consistent. The one thing I'm curious about is, I mean, obviously, we know that Aaron's understanding of the games is supreme. But you can only be as smart as your

weakest link. I mean, if guys, like the Jets led the league in false starts last year. Now, is that Aaron's cadence? Like, what is that? Like, you know, they're on the one yard line against Denver last year the chance to win the game, and they're jumping and they're, you know, they couldn't score a touchdown. And so, you know, I mean,

I know Aaron sees the game as well as anybody that's ever played it. But, you know, if everybody else doesn't see it like he does, then is that beneficial? You know, like you kind of, you got to grow this thing. And he has had no time there. I don't know if it's going to, they're going to hit the field running off defensively. I feel like the defense, which was great, had taken a ball away last year. I feel like the defense might have to carry him for quite a bit this year before that thing can begin to come together. where all the things that Aaron sees, the checks and the smoke routes and, you know,

catching 12 on the field, all the things that he knows how to do, you know, I got to wait to see that thing come together. Well, listen, like, great quarterback, one of the best ever, still got a lot in that arm. You know, the legs will see. But, but shit, I saw some balls he threw last year, Baldy, where I'm like, man, he's still got it. Yeah. Especially some of those back shoulder throws and some of those darts over the middle, man.

And like, but I will tell you, like being a great quarterback is not necessarily, it doesn't run parallel with being a great offensive coordinator or somebody who can like kind of put in the offense because that's effectively what he's done at different. I don't want to say he put in the offense, but he handpicked a lot of stuff, it seemed like. And it was like, hey, this, I want to run the offense my way. I think what might be good for Aaron and what might be good for the Steelers General is that they have a strong offensive coordinator who's been there. He's done that. He's got a way of doing things like it's not going to be all Aaron. It's going to be Aaron and Arthur. And I think at times, like if the quarterback's trying to get things exactly the way he wants

him in every corner of the game, it's going to be hard for that guy to play quarterback and get everybody on the same page. I know that's the quarterback's job, but things like snap counts, things like, you know, our run game, how it marries the play action. Like he's going to have to adapt a little bit more probably under an offensive coordinator who has an MO, rather than what he's been dealing with the last couple years, so he kind of created that dynamic. Well, I mean, look, so much of the game with these guys that's done at the line of scrimmage.

And so, you know, what are you presenting? What are you, you know, you give me a too high shell, but you're rotating at the snap. And, you know, Aaron's ability to kind of recognize what they might be getting to based on personnel or front or whatever it is, that's great. Yes. But can all 10 other guys, you know, be on the same page with you? And that's, I feel like that takes time. And I remember one, like, about one day, I'm in Green Bay.

And Farmer was a quarterback. And I'm sitting in the offense line room. And I'm sitting there. They're literally going through their audible checks. And, you know, there's a lot of questions about what this meant or what this checked here or whatever. And like in the middle of this meeting, Farb walks into the room and he goes, hey, listen, everything that's being said now, screw it.

This is what the hell we're doing. We're not going through another practice and literally far changed the audible checks in that room and simplified it so that everybody figured it out. And like, you know, it's something that we kind of take for granted. We're on the outside. What are we checking to? You know, what do you have the ability to check to? Run to run, run to pass, whatever it is. You know, those things, sometimes you need to practice those things and talk through those things to get it right.

to get it there are tight. You're going up against a Baltimore defense in second year, you know, and, you know, some of these other situations, Schwarzy, you know, like he's going to have his checks for what they're doing. So I don't know, it's, I got to see this thing come together. It has a chance, like, they still got to figure this out even after this year at that position. But for right now, you know, for them to go win 10, 11, 12 games to get to the playoffs, like still a lot of things have to go right offensively.

And Aaron has to play well to do that. No question. And it's a short runway, if you think of it as a one-year experiment, which is why I think to kind of our point, like you got to come in and there are going to be things that he's going to be like, hey, I want it done this way. You know, I want the furniture rearranged. But, you know, the house is the house in Pittsburgh,

which I think is a good thing for Aaron, even at this stage in his career, like, you know, because if you give Aaron carte blanche to do whatever he wants, of course he's going to want to do everything. He's going to adjust everything. He's going to get everybody on his. his page, change the checks, run the offense his way. Like, I think it's good and he's damn good enough to walk into a situation and do things their way a little bit, do things Arthur's way,

and ultimately do things Tom ones way, which I think is going to be good. Like to have a head coach that's strong personality, just like Aaron, they're going to get along good, I hope. But yeah, I think 10, 11, 12 wins. That's within reach for this team. But things have to go right, right? Yeah. I talked about some of those position groups. All right, so they got a great D-line, Baldy, who do you think has the best defensive line in the league? Give me the top couple defensive lines in the league. We can work through it together. Well, I think Denver's is good, Chris, I really like. I think Denver's, like, Zach Allen, like, got no attention last year. That guy was awesome. He was as good as any defensive tackle, but, you know, you know, John Franklin

Myers and, you know, DJ Jones and Cooper and Bonito. I mean, that's, that's up there right now. Yep. I still think, even though the Eagles lost Josh Sweat, you know, and they lost Milton Williams. I still think they're going to be really good. I think this Ty Robinson from Nebraska is like I think he's going to be a really good rotational player for him. Nolan Smith came on and he's a problem. He's going to be his speed is an issue.

And then, you know, he's getting better and playing next to jail. He's going to help. You know, they picked up Josh Ushay and Azizzo Jolari. Both of them have had, they've had times and they both have had injuries for sure. You know, they also have had, you know, some days where they were pretty good players out there. And maybe within the rotation, I think the Eagles can still be, you know, pretty good right now. Yeah, no question. I think the Eagles got a lot to replace.

But when you have Jalen Carter inside, you're in good shape. And maybe it's like a Jomo who takes that step next year and becomes the next guy to get the bag or something like that. You know, and the Eagles have proven not with 100% hit rate because certainly they've had their signings like the one that didn't work out last. year coming from New York. Forget the guy's name right now. Bryce Huff. They had their Bryce Huff signing last year, which didn't work out famously. You know, they also brought my buddy Robert Quinn in at one point.

That didn't really work out late in his career. But for the most part, they're hitting on things. They're hitting on things up front. You know, how he's hot right now. So you ride the hot hand and you hope that O'Jolari and you mentioned Uche, like these guys step up and play big games. Well, I mean, nobody's drafted better than the ranch, Chris. You know, like they've just, I mean, you know, whether it's Kobe, you know, Kobe Charter right now or Byron Young or, you know, Jared Verst or, you know, Fisk.

I mean, these guys are, I mean, maybe you can tell these people listening to your podcast, Chris, how hard it is for rookie. Defense attack, the gate and half set. I mean, that's, you know, that's Aaron Donald like, you know, I mean, Aaron probably had eight-saxes rookie year. It's usually the second year where they make the job. Yeah, he was incredibly productive and I think got overshadowed by verse who ironically got a lot of attention and should have because he was a bowling ball but didn't have the sacks that maybe maybe you're going to see later in his career as he develops a little bit more. Like I think he'll be a double digit guy at some point here, maybe next year. But Fisk was really the guy who was not going to door at double digits last year. And nobody noticed.

Yeah. The kids, the kids, I mean, they're just. it's a what's a gift smith is their d-line coach yeah and i think he did a great job with that group i mean when you see a bunch of young guys playing like that you know you got a good coach i also would throw in the the equation the giants defensive line i think tibodeau has gotten um a bad rap a little bit like he's been productive i mean like what else do you want out of a guy he's got 10 sacks already he's hit double digits um you know he's put together a couple productive seasons brian Burns, Dexter Lawrence, and then you add Abdul Carter, who is definitely going to make somebody

move up and down the line a little bit to make room for him if you're believing what you're hearing on New York, which is that he's hell on wheels. I don't want to see how they make that work, but they certainly have the names and they have guys that have the ability. They've been drafted high. All those guys were drafted very high. It's interesting, Dexter Lawrence, you know, because what do 360 pounds? defensive tackles have to offer.

You know, can they stay on the field long enough? I remember talking to Dexter about it. And I remember Wink Martindale as a defense coordinator. And Wink told me, he goes, man, if this Dexter Lawrence isn't in the pro bowl, it's my fault. Yeah. And, you know, there's not a lot of those guys out there, you know, Vita Vaya. There's a couple of Jordan Davis. There's a couple guys like this.

But the thing that was interesting for Dexter was, like, he just wasn't productive in the past rough. And it wasn't that he wasn't a great athlete or he wasn't in shape. It was a mental thing, staying on the field long enough to be able to get to third down and rush to pass him. And I feel like I've told this to Jordan Davis's agent. Like I don't ever make anything personal with any players, but Jordan doesn't play enough plays to stay on the field to affect in the passing game. And so can he be a high first round pick if you don't do that? And so I do think a lot of this for big guys is very, very mental. for Vita Veda playing that heat down there in Tampa

and play as many snaps as he plays yes, are you tired? Hell yeah, you're tired. Are you gas? Yeah. But some guys have figured out how to play through it. And it's not about running windsprings and all this other stuff. There's a mental component to staying on the field and being productive. And I think some of these guys have to fight through that.

Yeah, no. Lawrence is unique. Like when you talk to a former center, I mean, Jason Kelsey is the one who always talks about how it's hell to get when you got a guy like that covering you up i mean it's just a nightmare so if you can get that guy good enough to where he can play every down like there's no there's no escape the boogeyman's out there every play how do you think you feel with vita vea you know watching tape of him all week as a center like you just pray he's going to get tired that's it and if he doesn't get tired you're fuck okay the other team we got to mention one two three Houston texans no question

I mean, what Will Anderson is doing in this business. I mean, he's off to a great start. This is effort. Way he smokes the corner right now. Yeah. And then to have, you know, Danielle Hunter has been one of the great past rushes in this business for a long time. There's just that many guys that kind of length.

Yeah. With the variety of moves that he has and kind of how awkward he is at times. Yeah. And how you have to like really be patient on a guy like that. And then inside, you know, whether it's, you know, Settle comes on board right now. Sheldon Rank, has had good days, Mario Edwards. I mean, they've got a number of guys.

Danico Archery has been a great pass rush in this league for a decade, wherever he goes. I love Autry. Archery is a long-armed guy, inside, outside. He crushes the pocket. And he's so versatile. So, I mean, that's a guy that, you know, when you look at the Houston Texans, and one of the reasons why DEMCO Rines has been really good is, you know,

is that defensive line. All right. So, Baldi, we've been talking D-Line a lot. I'm going to ask you in your years of studying film, if we were making a teach tape off of these moves, who would you prefer to be the guy on the teach tape? Okay? Let's start with the long arm. Who do you like? I would say, like, Chandler Jones is really good with the long arm. Man, wasn't he? Yeah. Channel Jones is, like, I remember doing like real quick here, Chris, but I remember doing like, This time of the year when it's just dead, like ranking the best pass rushers in the league one through 10.

And I would literally go to Lane, go to Trent, you know, go to some of these tackles in the league and go tell me what. And Chandler Jones's name kept coming up. Always. Yeah. Because he was so unorthodox. He was unorthodox. He could jump around you without doing a cross chop. But you just didn't know what he was going to do.

But he had the length and athletic ability to do a bunch of different things at you. Well, his long arm often, he would kind of shock people with his long arm and then pull off of that. A lot of the other guys I think about that are long arm guys would get the, like Jason Taylor, would get the edge, right? And he had the speed to burn the edge. Jared Allen had the length, right? And Taylor had the length as well. But Allen had like really rare length.

A guy I loved who was great at the long arm that was like actually one of my favorite rushers to watch was Tom Boliv. because he had the long arm and the swipe. Yeah. He had the long arm and the swipe. You know, we were talking about the lineage of Kansas City pass rush, which can't really. Tom Bahali, who's opposite to Justin for a while there. He was in Kansas City.

They kind of fed each other at that point. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one for the long arm. Actually, Chandler came up this weekend. I think Vaughn mentioned at one point that sometimes Chandler would go slow off the ball to affect the certain timing that he needed to affect to sink certain moves. so he would let people kind of beat him to the spot,

which is an interesting thing. You think about usually like, hey, D-Line coach says, hey, get off, get off, get-off. But Chandler was one of the great change-up guys from our generation. Okay, how about the ghost move? Is there anybody that compares to Von Miller at just getting under a guy's armpit and not breaking stride? Well, you know, maybe TJ.

You know, TJ certainly has the ability, but, you know, Vaughn was the king every once in a while, you'll see Miles Garrett, you know, once everybody sets for his power, like, he can ghost you pretty good. But, I mean, Vaughn, you know, I mean, to be able to go grab grass as easy as he did and bend and set you up with it, I'd say he's probably as good as anybody that we've seen at just being able to get underneath you. And I always say, like, when these tackles come out and there's six, seven, six eight, great. You know, you got this length and all this stuff. Well, all right, that's going to be your problem right there. Something that's going to be able to dip underneath you.

and can you get your hands on to try and steer them or stop him? Well, yeah, like Nolan Smith, a guy who probably has the speed and has the body type where he could actually pull that off. I also think another guy that he's like baby Vaughn, and I think this year he's going to have a big year is Baron Browning. Yeah. Down in Arizona, me and Vaughn were actually talking about him recently.

When I first saw Baron Browning play, I was like, man, he's got a little Vaughn in him. And I didn't say a lot. Like, you know, nobody has a lot of Vaughn in him. But he's got enough of it in there that I feel like he's guy who could actually get under somebody's armpit and not break stride, which is what we're talking about in the ghost move. How about the spin move? It seems like there's some, there's one guy that first comes to mind when you talk about a spin move. Well, I mean, I would go back to Frini,

you know, I mean, Frini probably was the best we've seen. I mean, as soon as he saw you lean or thought you're going to lean, I mean, he could spin inside or outside. But, you know, he spun himself right into the Hall of Fame. He was, you know, he was a, you know, he was a low center of gravity guy that had great agility like that and could really get you hooked, you know, and, you know, I saw, I saw guys teaching it the other day out there in Vegas, but I thought Frini was probably as good as anybody. Yeah, he was amazing. And the thing I loved is he, he spun off a power a lot. Like, his power set up his spin a lot. There was some way we talked a lot about this weekend is like, hey, guys that are power guys. That doesn't mean you can't get sexy.

and sink a spin in there, man. You can sink it off a long arm. You can sink it off of the threat of bull rush, that sort of thing. So I know a guy that you like is, you know, he's Trayvon Walker, who's got great power. Yeah, I think if Trayvon worked in a spin, when guys start setting for his power, did you see the number of guys, he walks back to the quarterback? But I thought if he got that change up right now, like, that would be a good change up for Trayvon. Because, of course, when you spin, you want that player to turn, right?

You want that player, that offensive tackle to turn and open the door towards the sideline a little bit for you. So you can spin in through that crack in the door. But really what you're trying to do is you're trying to get somebody to stop their feet. Yeah. Sink their feet, especially that left foot for a left for a right tackle, a left end. You want that left foot of the tackle to hinge and get stuck in the mud. Because once you whip that ice pick around, which is that that arm that you're sealing the spin with,

He's stuck. And so I think being a power player, there's a lot, a lot that you can do on your counter inside, one of them is a spin. All right. How about, how about just pure power,

not the long arm, somebody that's synonymous with running down your show? Well, I mean, you know, Miles is probably as good as anybody we've seen right now with just the straight power. Yeah. It is, and the fear that he puts in people,

you know, on a regular basis of what he can do, whether it's to a long arm, whether it's just, you know, four point, four point stance and just coming so low off the ground, like his power is pretty rare in this business right now. No question. I mean, and the speed with it, I mean, he, he is as fast as almost any. You said he's a ghost rush guy.

A guy six foot six, three hundred pounds, it looks like. And so, yeah, Miles Garrett for sure showing up on that tape. And then I think we talked about this move over the weekend, the Chop Club, which is one that, like, you ask certain guys, they're like, I don't really, like, even Vaughn. Yeah. Von was like, I don't really, I don't like, and I don't like chop club. Like, like, I know it works for some guys, but for some guys, it doesn't.

There was a guy you mentioned that I thought it was a great poll because he was the king of the chop club, was Ossi UM and Yorah. Yeah. He's one of the most underrated rushers, I think, in the history of the NFL. But he was amazing. He would kind of slide in. He'd go from half man to full man. And then he'd pop back out.

And he just almost like hop to the edge. It was like he would hop around the outside of the tackle. Very unorthodox, but he got it done. Well, there was a foundation to some Super Bowls there with the Giants with Strayhand, you know, the guys that they had there. But Chuck Smith, you know, work with him down Atlanta. And, you know, Chuck really kind of helped like really a lot of guys with that particular move. Yeah.

You know, obviously Aaron picked it up. Aaron Dowell picked it up, you know, throughout his career. He ended up doing it over a bunch of guards, especially to the outside when he knew the slide was coming to him. Yeah. Or the center, you know, he was in any position to help out at all. You know, the slide didn't do any good. He jumped around the outside of the left guard or right guard.

He could do it either way. But he was really good on the interior of that particular group. You know who else did a really good job? And I almost raised my hand during the thing. but I didn't want to be the first to raise my hand, but it was Robert Quinn. Yeah. Robert.

No question about it. You know, Quenny was, if you look at that 20-sack season he had, and he was one that he would, the whole chop club thing is, like any of these moves, you're playing chicken. You're trying to get chest to chest with protecting your chest, but get shoulder to shoulder so you can sink that move. And at the last second, it's coming down over the arm.

And, you know, you get people to stop their feet, and you use the chop club on low hand guys, right? So you want them to stop their feet, have their hands low, and you get almost shoulder to shoulder, but Rob would kind of jump into it. He would, like, bound into it, which just made it so crazy looking, but the thing that him and Aaron did a really good job of,

they would chop down on that arm, and they would reach around the back pad, and they would get cloth on the nameplate to pull themselves through the second part of the move. And so you've got to have length, You've got to have good hips. You've got to have explosiveness. Yeah.

No, Robert had all those things. Yeah. So, you know, a very underrated rusher. No question. You know, in the last 20 years, one of the more underrated players. No question. At his peak, I would put him up with the elite rushers in our game. He just wasn't able to, because of injury and that sort of thing, keep that going.

But he had almost 20 in Chicago. Remember, he resurrected his careers. And they had no idea they were going to get that out of him. But the other one for me is swipe. stab swipe swipe swipe i'm putting trent cole in there at stab swipe i think you remember trent col's tape another another russia that doesn't get is enough notoriety to me 80-sac guy just a total stud and and he had that technique down he did uh you know Trent you know it was a long line really you know from hugh douglas to Trent you know a bunch of

you know i go back to rachie and you know um clide and all the guys in philly but you know they've always had their guys. But he was good. I got right down the street from where I'm at in Fort Lauderdale here. I mean, if I'm there at 9 o'clock the morning, there's Joey and Nick Bosa working out. And Nick still has that ability because he's so low, if he wants to say, if you want to put your hands out there on him, he's going to he's going to swipe him away, whether it's one hand or two hand to swipe. But his, you know, he still has that ability to defeat, you know, any, any tackle his business on that particular move. Now, it'd be a hell of a tape. We should put together, Baldy. The last thing I want to ask you is to share with the viewers your story

about coaching in Italy, because I thought this was incredible. We can close the show on this. Yeah. I got a call. There was a great book written by John Grisham called Playing for Pizza. You know, John, John was knocking out novels, you know, two a year. He was living in Oxford, Mississippi at the time. And I was a big college football fan. But he wrote this book, this, you know, fiction book about an aging American football player that couldn't get a job in the NFL anymore and getting a, end up getting a job of the Parma Panthers in the Italian League of American Football. And so one of the teams that's actual league, the Italian League of American Football,

one of the teams is the Bergen of the Lions. And so, buddy of mine, Doug Cosby, he was coaching at Stamper, he was coaching a cow, and kind of got burnt out on, you know, 20-hour days, and he had kids. There's kids that had been raised. He's like, I would go, you know, I'm going to read. He read this book. He fell and loved the story. Asked me if I'd come to be his line coach.

I got permission from the NFL to, you know, head over with them. So there we were in Bergamo in the base of the, you know, the Alps right there, the Northern Alps of Italy. And I started working with, so, you know, each team had three Americans, but they're all Italian guys. So, you know, we have this one basketball player, Numa, Gallinari. And he was an aging, you know, Division II basketball player in Italy, but he wanted to try American football. So he's, you know, he's 680s, 320. Honestly, on his best day, Chris, he couldn't bust an egg.

Like, it was just powder puff, you know. But he was intimidating looking at the food man shoe, drove a Harley, ran our grill, you know, after practice. Like, he was a good dude. And he had, you know, a pack of cigarettes in his side. sock, needed a cigarette break, you know, three times a day. But, you know, we would start, we would start having practice with a shot of espresso and a grapple. Like that groppa and espresso it was a good, it was a good mix to kind of get yourself mentally right to go out there

on the field for a couple hours and train these guys. And so it was awesome, man. I ended up getting on Facebook and it did a blog and the blog got back to Grisham. Grisham got back to me. He loved the story. I learned Italian. I gave a special. speech and Italian, you know, for the championship game in Sicily one year. It was awesome, man. My buddy on the team was Brad Van Pelt. He was the quarterback. He didn't want to play.

His dad was a great Brad Van Pelt from the Giants. Brad was a natural athlete from Colorado State, you know, kind of seventh round pick, didn't do much in the league, was running an Ina Tech in Santa Barbara, didn't want to be bother with football. We talked him into it. We said, we'll drink a lot of wine. We'll learn a lot about grapes. come be our quarterback

and yeah so we we tour a lot of vineyards drank a lot of wine and he was

he was a great he was a great guy great quarterback and I don't know that a lifetime of stories coming out of that place was it was it like

was the grass like just beat up and it was was so yeah there was no facilities you know like they had a we were

we practiced on this place and you know it rained a lot you know in Italy in February where we were, you know, like really beginning practice. We had a lot of rain, cold weather.

They had a rugby field next to us. Sometimes the rugby guys would be on our field. We'd be on their field. Whoever got the field first got the field. You know, I mean, you know, facilities, equipment. You know, it was like old school football, man. That's all. All right.

You know, but, you know, but we literally went out after every practice. You know, pizza at midnight, you know, wine. You know, they wanted barbecue and. Budweiser, we wanted wine and pasta. You know, it was like, it's just, it's like that thing where everybody wants to be football players. Yeah, musicians want to be athletes. Yeah, you wanted to be Italian. They wanted to be American.

I remember my right tackle was this guy, Pepey. And Pepey was a banker, right? And, you know, like, I went to just open up a bank account, you know, at his bank one day just to, like, you know, give him some shit. And, you know, he'd been playing. He was like 40 years old. been playing a long time. Well, we play this championship game in Catania, Sicily. And, you know, we fly down to Catania out of Milan, whatever.

And we get there, we get on a bus. We get on a bus. We drive like three hours from choking traffic in Sicily. We get to this, you know, we get to this restaurant. And everybody's, like, eating and, like, the fuck, we got a game in two hours. Like, we're not going to get back in time. So they call the guys up, like, hey, we're going to be late. You know, we ran in traffic.

Well, it turns out that the field was 10 minutes away from the airport. We could have just gotten there on time. But they loved this restaurant downtown Catania. So we had to go to the restaurant. So now the guys are full. We're sitting in this bus choking traffic. And Pepi's playing like shit in the first half. And so I decided to bench PEPI at halftime.

Well, all hell breaks loose. Like you can't bench PEPI. Peppers are leader. Like this. I'm like, the guy's playing like shit. You can't get out of his stance. And they're like, Peffy always plays like shit in Catania.

He always eats too much. It would be better in the second half. Like, just stay with him. Was he better in the second half? He was better in the second half. He's a little bit else to game, but he was better than second half. Oh, that's good, bawdy.

Yeah, man. Oh, man. And John Grisham lives in my hometown. I think I told you that the other night. He used to be, he used to fund our A, he was a baseball trip. He was a big football fan, Chris. Big fan.

You know, obviously, Oxford's a big SEC town. He was friends with, like, a lot of the officials and stuff. that lived down there. Man, I see him from time to time. I'm going to mention you. Yeah, he mentioned, playing with pizza. That's funny for hell.

You know, like he knows the story and Bergamo and all the towns. It was great, man. It was a lot of fun. It was, you know. Well, one day, one day, Baldi, I might go to Italy. Give me the phone call, Chris.

I'll decide if I'm ready to head back. You know, I got myself a motorbike. And, you know, we had a guy that was the fixer. You know, whatever you need, you needed a Ferrari and take your girl out. Maybe he gets you the Ferrari. Like we, you know, we, it was, it was, you know, it was Italian style. That's amazing, dude.

Baldi, thanks for the, for the great analysis and the even better stories, my brother. I enjoyed hanging out this weekend and hope we get together again soon, dude. All right, buddy. I'll see you up there in Mount Laurel at one of these days pretty soon, Chris. That's right. That's right. I'll see you then, brother. I miss C. Isle this weekend because I was at the SAC summit.

I want to get to C. aisle eventually it's Jason Kelsey's thing. But, but Bo, you were a central character there. You ran into my family on the boardwalk and everything and you were, you were, what, doing keg stands and shit? Like, what were you doing all weekend there? Hell yeah. Now, I ran into Luke and Meg Long Dong, actually after a little beachside morning yoga, believe it or not. I heard, I had this big super fan yelled, Bo Allen, Bo! I turned her out and Meg was right there with Luke, fresh from dropping wailing off at his basketball camp. Man, it's just so fun to see your friends in the wild when you're not expecting to see them.

Yeah, the feeling was mutual. But yeah, tell us about the debauchery, man. Well, I already told you about the wholesome event, which was, you know, yoga in the morning, which I kind of suck. Like yoga is great. It's for a great cause, but it's like you add sand and everything just becomes worse. You know, I'm sweaty. I'm rolling around in the mat, like trying to do yoga, like shaking, you know? Yeah, yeah.

But no, before we get into the debauchy that was the I do want to say this is all for a great cause. The goal was to raise a million dollars for Eagles Autism Foundation. All that money goes directly to that cause. And that goal was accomplished. So, you know, as much of a shit show as it was, it all was for a very positive thing. So I want to shine some light on that before I tell these tales of, you know, drinking and revelry. But I think the best part was that a bet with Kells going into this. We did Dexas scans, which, as you know, Chris, that's like the most accurate.

Yeah, it's a good way to get bone density, but it's the most accurate way to determine your body fat composition. And Kelston and I had a bat. Whoever could have the best body comp going into this, the loser had to wear a speedo for this, you know, charity guest bar, celebrity guest bartending event at the Ocean Drive in Seattle. And your boy won the event. another, or I won the bet. I knew you did because you wouldn't have brought it up. I mean, plus I'm fucking yoked up, dude.

You are yoked up, bro. Thank you. Is that why we saw Kelsey's meat in that Speedo? That's why Kelsey was rocking a fresh Brazilian wax. Look at that girl in the blue. I know. She's like, what? Done.

Kelsey's a good sport about it, man. like he showed up to pick me up from the airport on Tuesday in Philly and was like so grumpy. I was like, what's your deal, man? He'd just come from getting a bikini wax, like literally bikini wax to pick me up. He said he had to go to three different spots before he could find one that would do him, eventually found one of the Gabri hood, got it done. And then, to his credit, he wore the Speedo for the entire day. Like I thought he was going to, you know, just kind of do that big scene and then take

the speed off he wore it all day so he got to give him some props for that yeah but uh you know the event itself dude it was great like sydney brown was there there's cooper landin was hilarious oh man g with the jello shot yeah oh man you jellow shot that's the most fun i've ever seen that's the most animated i've ever seen cooper to gene dude he he actually loved it like he

he had a really good time anyway raise a ton of money a lot of eagles fans there. I think the highlight of my day was, you know, they kind of shuttle you around. The OD is a huge bar and see how tons of different. There's like an indoor bar, an outdoor bar, front bar, back bar. They shuttle you around and it was like 100 degrees. And I'm walking by like this inside area where everyone's kind of cooling up. It's still, you know, 95 degrees in there.

And Dom pops up out of nowhere. He goes, hey, boo, hey, boo, follow me. So I'm like, yes, of course. And I follow Dom right into the. the back cooler. It was a huge back cooler. We're sitting on kegs. It was like 45 degrees in there.

I got to chop it up with Dom. Me and big Dom and this tiny back cooler for like, you know, 15 minutes cool off. That was probably a highlight of my day. That's incredible. I can feel it right now. I can feel like you're talking about it right now.

It's hot as fuck here too. Well, yeah, you look like you were having a lot of fun, man. I had a lot of fomo, even though I was having a good time. I would, you know, I would have liked. to be around all my buddies but um but yeah no no no uh i'll be there next year i will not that you asked um you can wear a speedo yeah no i probably won't wear a speedo actually i do have this wolf speedo where like the mouth oh i know is yeah you know that one you rock that and kill it i did rock that up on

killy yeah i did rock that up on killy it wasn't as cold up there evidently as it wasn't sea i'll we've heard this we've heard i think a couple times on the show uh an illusion to this uh the wolf speedo yeah what bet will it take i really don't i mean i don't have to lose a bet like i will pack it on vacation and then like and then like come out to go swimming and like my wife is just like wow what are you doing um but no i to lose a bet like to have to wear it at sea aisle i don't know man you guys have to think of something but maybe it's a i'll come up or something Dexascan situation. You think you beat me at the Dexascan, Bo?

I know you got more muscle muscles. But, uh, that'd be tough. I mean, the way we did our competition was whoever lost the most. Uh, I was 16%. Oh, fuck. I'm killing you, dude. Sorry. No, but I put, so we did whoever lost the most.

It wasn't like the lowest, my Lord of Kelsey. Whoever lost the most and put on the most lean mass. So if you lose one percentage body fat, you get two points, you gain. pound of lean mass you get one point so i think i like had like six or seven total and then you lose it all i kyle over a 48 hour period literally yeah like drank 2 000 calories in garage beer alone on on wednesday and thursday look at you man you're moving you're a mover and a shaker bro i still have my sacsummit uh bracelet on do you have like your green your green bracelet from getting in that bar no i got my sack summit bracelet.

I had all my nightclub bracelets too, like just through yesterday. So you were at Sack Summit. There isn't a Nose Guard Summit yet, Bo. Do you have, do you have any ideas of what a Nose Guard Summit would entail?

Yeah, I was thinking on this. First of all, I thought it was kind of bullshit. I didn't get invited to the Sack Summit because I had two and a half career sacks. Yeah. I guess my knowledge just isn't appreciated there, but no. You know, I have other skills and techniques and a lot of great knowledge around noseguard play. And I think basically what noseguard summit is, it'd be like a hot dog eating contest.

Yeah. Followed by like three days straight of nine on seven. That's it. Nine on seven the whole time. And then, you know, you go to the hot tub and just chill all the noseguards in one hot tub. And that's pretty much noseguard something. Like no film, you know, no stretching, no warmups, no, like no, like, no, like, like real discussion. It's just like eating food and nine on stuff. Maybe like yeah,

contact. Maybe you bash your head into a brick wall a couple times just to kind of like, where do they do this like like somewhere in Michigan? No, it's got to be like, uh, like fucking Alabama. Alabama. Yeah. You know, nose tackle summit. I mean that that's, uh, that's crazy. Yeah, I think you could pull that off. The liability sounds like it's a little bit of a challenge with that, though. You've seen a lot of sacks. You have a lot of knowledge. I saw one in C-Ireel this week.

Pause. He said pause. He said pause. You know, we weren't talking about testicles. We were talking about football. Brooke Dickerson, Landon's wife, did a really funny comparison video of like, to run this obstacle course for this beer bowl the next day, which is for New Heights, and did all the linemen doing it.

And then Cooper and Sidney Brown, and, like, just the difference. It was so funny. And then you see Kelse, he was my teammate. So we were competing against them. And I'm like, we're like strategizing. I'm talking to Kelsey. Like, hey, man, what's the plan here? Like, are you just, like, are you going to kind of tipto through it?

Like, what are you going to do? He's like, no, I'm going out sprinting. So you see Kelse when he goes. Jesus. sprinting his ass off and instantly tore his hamstring. Joe O'Pella, trainer Joe was a, you know, a celebrity contestant at the event the day before. So he popped right over. I had a job sock.

We got him right. Look at Cal's. Watch it. Oh, right there. Right there. Right there. Yeah. You got to tiptoe through that thing.

That's you, Bo? After Jason. Jason's still moving pretty good. I was he running like that. Is that you, though, Bo? That's Landon. Oh, Landon. I'm so happy you thought that was me.

Kind of like your Red Bull Red Bull Flutog thing Where people were falling on the Yeah the grease bowl challenge I just slid on my belly And got to the end It was Hamstring

It was pretty fun Were there sharks I've seen a crazy video Of I'm a dude He's in the gym And he's squatting Mm-hmm

And an earthquake capsons And while he's Putting the bar down He like Pulls his hamstring So like One side of the bar slides off so he can throw the bar off. And you see everyone's getting out of this gym.

And while he's trying to get out, he grabs on his hamstring and has to crawl out of the gym. Shut the fuck that. It was just like, damn, bro, of all times. Dude, one time I made the big mistake, I was at a public gym and I loaded like all one side first. And it went like into the mirror. It was like a hotel gym. I was like 20 years old. It was very embarrassing.

Anyways. Here's Bose run. I want to see Bose run. Oh. That's the beach whale tactic. Well, like, is that a win? Pause. Or, like, are you just supposed to knock that thing down?

That's a win, baby. Oh, we're, where, we're. Yeah. You just got to get to the end. Some people were, like, tipping it between their legs and, like, scooching all the way down. I just went for the home plate slide, baby. Boy, you look great. man thanks for joining us today we'll be back later in the week i'm sure with a guest maybe

beasley i don't know you have moly but yeah we'll be back later in the week uh check us out then take care