Brian Baumgartner (aka Kevin Malone)! The Office and Packers Fandom. Beau Allen on D-Line Prospects and College Football Road Trips
00:00Legend has it that you and Krasinski during lunch used to have epic Madden battles.Every day.My memory of our epic battles when we could choose who we wanted was he was the Patriots,and weirdly I was the Chargers.No one could stop my Gates play.I would scream to him as I was throwing rivers to Gates.Gates play!He would take that seam right down the middle, and I would loft it over.
00:30touchdown every time.Welcome to the Greenlight Pod.Cowboy Reed is in Mexico, so y'all are stuck with me.Today, Chris, Macon, and Bad Backy talk about court storming and Cam Newton.Then Brian Baumgartner, aka Kevin from the office, joins to talk to Green Bay Packers,fantasy football, and the enduring popularity of the office.Then Bo Allen joins to break down the interior D-Line prospects in this year's draft,and the guys propose their ideal college football road trip.
01:01Enjoy.All right, big pod today.Honestly, one of my favorite guests we've had in a while.Yep.A lot of fun.A lot of fun.We've been needing a guest like this.We've been doing so much football.
01:49We talked about football a while.But Brian Baumgardner from the office,you know him as Kevin Malone from the office,is a huge football fan,a Packers fan, a Georgia Bulldogs fan.We're going to talk to him about a fantasy football leaguethat him and all the office membershave participated in
02:08for the better part of 20 years,actually almost 20 years,we're going to talk about shit.I mean, my favorite thing was hearingabout him and Jim playing Madden back in the day.Like, there's a lot of great football crossoverwith the office,but also just digging into the show a little bit.
02:22And what it's like being Brian Baumgartnerand a guy that everybody sees is Kevin Malone,but there's so much more to him.His podcast is awesome.Off the beat, I was on it a couple weeks ago.Just a great guy, dude.The type of guy that you're like,I could drink a beer with this guy.
02:36Yeah.Yeah, yeah, yeah.And interestingly, kudos to us, you know, pooping the potty.He was the first one to bring up the words, The Office.Yeah.And I thought that was...That's cool.If you can stick the landing on that, that's good.
02:49Because I'm sure after a while it gets tiresome to just have the entire outline,be the Office, if you're Kevin Malone from the Office.And next time he comes on, we cannot even discuss the Office.Be a good conversation.A no-office pod.Great dude.Okay, so we've got that.and then in the tail end of the show, we've got Bo.
03:05St. Louis, Missouri,hello! hometown of Mackay Wingo and IDL in this year's draft.That's a great job.Tying it back to the segment that I'm trying to describe to the people at home.What we're going to be doing every Monday leading up to the draftis we're going to have Bow on in the C block, as you know it,in lieu of a mailbag and that type of thing.We're going to have Bow on to talk about a position group
03:28in this upcoming NFL draft,and naturally the Butter King is going to start withIDL's interior D-Liman.There are some exciting ones, but not the deepest class in the world.I mean, maybe a deep class.I couldn't speak to the depth of the class, but not the most top-heavy class in the world.Like there's not a lot of guys in this class that I'm like, yeah, that's a game changer right away.There is one guy in particular we did talk about in that light.
03:54Save it.This is what's called a tease.What are they called?Tees in the business.So I'm not going to tell you who that is.You got to stick around until after Brian.We also pitch a couple road trips in 2024 that we will probably never embark on,but they're fun to talk about.
04:11In the college football world, I think it's high time for us to take this show on the roadand do some college cities.I mean, we did that last year for Tuscaloosa, and it changed my life.You got the banner with the Big A, the script A right up there behind Macon's head.That trip set the tone for our kids.It did.Now they're going to be Alabama football players.And it feels good knowing it.
04:35They don't have a choice.They don't have a choice.So anyways, that's all coming up.Layup line today.I want to send this one out to Reed Dickersonbecause I think he's on the road.Like he didn't really tell anybody what he was doing.He just kind of ups and leaves when he goes on vacation.
04:50He's not like, hey, I'm excited to go on this vacation.On like Friday, he's like, hey, everybody else is going to be handling the show.I'm like, all right, where are you going?He didn't put a two week.No, well, I'm sure the powers that be, no, but like me, I, you know, barely have a calendar.I've been doing emails a lot lately.I'm getting into email.Nice.
05:12Yeah, I was just going to say a lengthy email.Oh.These guys love more information here.They talk amongst themselves.Chris just, you know, he doesn't tell us shit.And then I send him a three-page email and they act like it's the Odyssey.You know, I have a little.I have a little bit of scar tissue on this subject.
05:31I once wrote a very lengthy email about production of the show and ideas and suchthat did not go read by anybody that it was sent to.I read it.We should pull that one up again.Okay.All right.So anyways, Reeds on vacation.We miss you, Reed.
05:48I guess he's in Mexico at somebody's wedding.And this weekend I had a great music weekend.It was raining all Saturday.I sat up in my office with the door open and just kind of listened to the rain and listened to some Jimmy Buffett,unintentionally just coming on my shuffle.I saw Led Zeppelin cover band Friday night, Zosso.That was a lot of fun.And yeah, I really sunk into Jimmy Buffett while I was watching the Arizona Cardinals play football.
06:16I'm going one team a week.Listen, if there's any Arizona Cardinals fans out there, in summation, at some point,I'll close the loop on this thing, but not a lot of talent on defense.You're going to need to load up on that side of the ball.Let me just say that.guys I like. Fourth pick and 27th pick. Yeah. So it's been it's been it's not like hunkering down andwatching roquan Smith and jadavian clownie and and Kyle Hamilton play football. Like you really have togrind that Arizona Cardinals tape. The Cardinals defense reminds me of some of the defenses that I was on
06:49early in my career with less vets because things are different now. So like when you're a high draft pickand you come into a defense that's kind of void of talent and there's some good players. Don't getbe wrong there were some really good players on that that defense better players than they have onthat cardinals defense but they were veterans they don't have those guys you know the oldest guy on thatteam's like 28 i think so yeah young team team that needs to load up on defense i'll talk more aboutthat at some point at a later date but that's team number one i had jimmy buffett going and the song isthis hotel room they got an air conditioner for when i'm hot a radiator for when i'm not they got twobig chairs sitting side by side and a holy bible and a tv god a tv god tv god tv god great god almighty it's the tv god
07:40that was really good yeah i love that i love that part of the song i just well i was supposed toplay it while i was doing it's too excited i think you're basically jimmy buffett i love jimmy buffetthere's the thing about jimmy buffett he's kind of like a reverse john elway or something he's like a guythat, like, you didn't know half of his career.John Elway in the 90s is the same thing, though.John Elway in the 90s was, like, kind of shot physically.He was not the same player.He was.
08:06He was still spectacular,and the helicopter touched onand all that stuff in the Super Bowl.But when you hear somebody talk about John Elwaythat watched him play in the 80sor played against him like my dad,he's the guy that without fail,he comes up as one of the most talented quarterbacks
08:18to ever play the positionand played it totally different in the 80sin that era than he did in the 90s.Jimmy Buffett, to people my age,he's just Margaritaville.Now I went to a Jimmy Buffett concertwith Jeff Fisher and Dave McGinnis,assistant head coach of the St. Louis Rams
08:35and William Hayesin the beer line for a Jimmy Buffett concertwith a bunch of Margaritaville-looking motherfuckersand William Hayes.I did not enjoy the show that muchbecause the new Jimmy Buffett music is just,it's a little bit more commercialized.That guy knew what he was doing.
08:52But when he was younger,if he'd have stuck on that path of being like a songwriter kind of country singerI think he'd be talked about in the light of like some of the all-timers now I know we talkabout him in light of like an all-timer because of his business acumen and because of his brandbut the music was tremendous so son of a sailor pirate looks at 40 come Monday come Mondayyou could I could we could do this for days we won't because you got to go out and check outthe old Jimmy Buffett. You got to hear it to believe it. It's not what you think it is.Well, and now he's dead. Marketing genius, though. Why do you have to do that? You have made me think
09:32about Jimmy Buffett dying. Well, there isn't anything new coming. No, there's nothing new coming.That's good. That's a good point, Macon.Sorry. We're all going to die, Macon. No, no, like he made it.He's getting old. Do you know this, this is a thing that, well, you don't know yet. I'll tell you.So I got a trampoline at home, right?We got this big trampoline.You know, it's like, it's going to be a game changer for the family.We're all going to jump on the trampoline.
10:00My wife's going to jump on the trampoline.We've had it for three months.My wife hasn't jumped on it once.Okay.Now, why is that relevant?Because I asked her, and she said that I'm afraid some women, as they get older,I don't know if you guys knew this, they pee their pants on the trampoline.Oh, big thing.
10:18That's a big thing.Is that a...Especially after kids, man.It goes through a lot of.I didn't know about this.She's like, I don't want to find out.What's the big deal?I think it's the bouncing.
10:28No, but what if a little pee comes out?They can't guard something.Who wants to piss their pants?You want to pee your pants?Mostly water.It's sterile.I used to be in high school.I used to be terrified because we had to wear khakis.
10:38Sometimes you're done and you think you're done and you're not done.Yeah.Then you've got to splash a bunch of water somewhere else to avert eyes.Yeah.Not as bad as getting a boner in class.That used to happen a lot.Yeah.I can't relate to that
10:52because I went to all boys high schoolYeah but I wasn't gettingBut you weren't getting a bonnerYou're horny, huh?I was just getting a bonerNo no I can't relate to getting a boner in classBecause I didn't have to deal with itI know but I wasn't getting a boner
11:04Because of something I sawI was just getting a bonerIt just happens when you're that ageI take itAnd then you got to get up and dissect a ratIn front of the fucking classAnd you got a bonerWhat are you doing?
11:15You know what I'm saying?Oh yeahI was stuck onon Kevin's intense heterosexuality.He's so straight.It is intense.It's an intense.Totally off the table for me.
11:31He's so straight.But I'm out of this one.I don't know if you guys knew that thing about trampolines.I didn't.You got to watch out.You know what?Roller coasters, too.Really?
11:39Yeah.Yeah.It really roller coaster triggers it.That'll get them.Yeah.Big time.All right.Good to know.
11:47All right.Guys, obviously, if there's one thing we're going totalk about in the sports world having nothing to do with football it's like some of the biggestnews in sports and i think it has to do with like keeping our athletes safe right so i wanted to take alook at this this is a story from this weekend of a woman uh that falls into a net at top golfin little rock arkansas dude have you not seen this no so if you're sitting at home you need togoogle little rock top golf i'm pretty sure this is the only thing that's the way god the wayway it was explaining me is top golf is multi-level. I've never been because we don't have
12:25a fucking top golf in this podong town. I bet they have one in Knoxville, Tennessee, on thatlater. But this, this lady, I mean, for God's sakes, they have a fucking top golf in, in LittleRock, and we don't have one here. Anyways, what happens is there's this woman, she's caught in a net,and the net is like dangling 15 feet above the T-box for a group of golfers. And I didn't realize,I thought she was like climbing the rafters and was fucking around and she got what she deserved.But she was just swinging the club and fell into the net.And that's why the net's there.Okay.
12:59She ain't getting out.She might still be there.She feels like a fish in a net.I really don't know the fix there.They got to cut her out.They got to cut her out and lower her down.I think you got to cut it.I watched this.
13:13You need a trampoline.Yeah.Yeah.That's the least of what could happen here.But she's in a panic, man.And I got to tell you, pictures don't do this video justice.Or my words don't do this video justice.So you've got to look up.
13:29Woman falls into safety net at Top Golf in Little Rock, Arkansas.That's the wrong state abbreviation, by the way.Yeah, that's Alaska.Yes, correct.All right.That's a true pickle.Look at the guy up there molesting the net as if he's going to be able to do anything about it.Making it just a little more taught.
13:47Maybe she can climb out.Poor gal.I mean, that's unbelievable.There's so many more jokes I could tell here, but I'm not going to do it.It really is a cat in a burning building situation.You need to bring out the...We'll put the link to this video in the podcast so you can watch along with us somehow.I'd like to know the final verdict of this.
14:06Yeah, fly on the wall.What happened here?I need to know what happened.Is she okay?Is she okay?I want to have her on the show.I want to ask her if she's okay.if she plans on suing top golf
14:18for what's the thingemotional damagesyeah like the more she movesthe more it's just like don't movethat's the ideaI mean that's not a skipjackall rightnow to the real topic
14:41of player safetywhich is the Duke incident manI mean like everybody's seen thisat home, and I just want to sayit's my thesis statement, I'm not going to dothe thing where I blame the victim becauseit's Duke. Part of me,20% of me wanted to be like, yeah,
14:58fuck these guys.But a player got hurt because a bunch offucking studentsrushed the court and trampledhim. It was like Bulls on parade. Now, I knowhe might be extending his arms.Or in his leg. And this is KylePhilopowski. This is the guy from Duke, the very tall guy from
15:15Duke. They got upset by Wake Forest thisif you don't want to watch college basketball.Fuck, dude, there are players on the court.There's players in the court.There's players that are getting off the court.Duke's up by or Duke's down by four with 1.8 seconds to go.They're going to end on the ball.Wake Forest intercepts the ball.
15:35Okay, so the game's over.But there are students at the foul line coming off the baselinebefore that clock hits zero.And Wake Forest at the end of the game's like,hey, we probably should have done better on this thing.Like this ain't like missing a deep ball in a game or like fumbling a snap.Like this is not something that happens in an instant.This takes planning, right?
15:56And if you're playing Duke, isn't part of the plan to beat them and what would happenin the event that we beat them?So are you telling me that you had no intention to beating Duke or worse yet?You thought you might beat them, especially at the end of the game and did nothing.There's not a security guard in sight.Now, I know we love fucking court rushing.I don't want it to go anywhere.Okay, I know you got people on TV.
16:19They're like, oh, it's court rush and it's been.I love it.I love it.I love it.But I don't want one of these student sections to be the reason that we do not have this toy anymore.Because this is one of my favorite things in sports, but there's a way to do it without this bullshit happening.Arm the players.Hey, it could have been a guy with the tubo.
16:41Like jousting?Perhaps.It's unique to college sports.It's great.with them. Court storms should be safe. That's doable. And they should be rare. My biggestproblem with this court storm, the Wake Forest Demon Deacons were favored by two and a half points.That's wild, dude. I didn't know that. I didn't know that. They were favored. I didn't beI didn't know that. So they were supposed to win. Now they're two games south of Duke and the
17:07ACC standing. So why were they favored? Does somebody hurt for Duke or they're just as good aboutweek stuff at home? Weeks very good. So we are rushing the court as a court as afavorites. Okay, I have multiple issues with this. We may need Institute rules. Well, here's the rule,okay? Now, I was on Reddit and I saw some people throwing out some pretty, like everybody atsome point thought of the idea that maybe there should be a countdown, like a Carson Daily typecountdown. You know that players have a certain amount of time to get off the court. 15 secondsafter they're off the court, you can rush the court. I think it builds the intrigue. It buildsthe suspense. It builds the energy. You know, these students,
17:46students are just, they're champing at the bit, make.You got to get out there.They got to wait for Carson Daly or whoever counts down.Like a different guy at each school can count it down.I don't know what Wake Forest alums.You get Tim Duncan, you know.Right.Good, Chris.
18:02No emotion, 15 second countdown in baggy jeans up on the screen.And then they all run out there, okay?Now, if you don't follow this protocol of the countdown,now I heard somebody on Reddit say, build a wall in front of the screen.student section to make them pay for it, which is really good. Okay, but I thought maybe like somebanisters that come up with like, you know, a fence for fuck's sake. But then you put the playersat risk because if they run into the fence, they get hurt, then we've got a problem. Okay,here's the solution. Because finding universities is not going to do anything to change what
18:38these kids do. For sure. These kids, once they're in the student section, if it's not loads ofsecurity, they are going on the court. It's happening. Okay. We can wait for thecountdown, but even so you've got drunk, idiotic kids that are going to run on the court.Here's what needs to happen.There needs to be a punishment that these kids actually feel.I thought about like, if you make contact with a player, your GPA goes down a full pointfor that semester, okay, making you effectively Chris Long.Or I think this one's even better, and I think there's actually something to this,
19:11if your home student section violates the bylaws here that will be an act.over the next hopefully calendar year.All the bars on campusare closed that night.Yeah. Yeah.Think about that.Because if you want to talk about somethingthat these kids absolutely don't want to go away
19:30in the shadow of a massive victorywho are you favored by two and a half pointsand the Salem over Duke.Or say you actually upset somebody.You want a party.That's what's all about.You don't want all the student athletes side eyeand you frat boy
19:45because you made contact.with Philipowski too early,you don't want all the bars and the businesseslike you can't go back into a barif you're that kid.I just can't get on board.Counterpoint, bar owners.With anything you're saying.
19:59You're a bar owner.Who's paying for that bar then?Okay.That's where the fine comes out.That's where the fine comes out.Yeah, that's good.So in that fine,there is a certain pool of money
20:08that goes to the schoolto recoup the losses of the bar.Now, as for like,you know,the dudes that are working at bars that are hoping to like hook up with a college chick that can'thelp you there buddy should have thought about that yeah you should have thought about that you would notwant to be that kid that closed the bar so there is something there but there needs to be compensationfor these businesses yeah but that's going to come in the fine so imagine that every bar in wake forest
20:36on wake forest street you know down there the five bars they have done in Winston salemthey got to shut down that night at like 9 o'clock or something like thatso you get your business right after the game but then all the bar is closing you knowexactly why it's because these douchebags ran on the court before the game was overit's a pretty simple thing if you're smart enough to get into an acc college you can'twait until the players get off the court let me tell you what should happen is thefucking duke guy get off the court dude no i agree with you like i i butIt is what it is.
21:13And this is such a part of the college experience.And I guarantee a lot of those kids are going to remember that.And I'm fine.But it is what it is.It is what it is.And Duke knows that when they get beat, whether they're favored or not, these kids are rushing the court.Well, well, I disagree with you.And with him and his, when he had the press, the post game, he said, this is personal and all.
21:40I didn't see that.I did.And it turned me off even more to the point where, like, just you're going to get bumped.You're going to get hit.I've seen guys get bumped in a terminal more than that.I understand.But this is also like you talk about a program.There's only five of these guys on the floor at any given time.
21:56This is one of their best players.Like this can alter the course of a season.Now you could argue, did he initiate contact or not?But he was still getting trampled as he was like falling over.And they had to get people to extract him out of there.Like it was a fucking, like it was tropic thunder.like forest ccum he's six 10the guy that hit him is five
22:15five yeah i understand so likei just don't have a lot of sympathy for the guy's afucking giraffe win the game thenthe guy's a giraffe it's important he can barelywalk as it is you got 40coeds running through him like he plays like the three he canwalk you see his footwork when he got hit he'sthrown around but this isn't basketball
22:33he's clumsy a f when the buzzer goesoff and so now you have all these motherfuckersrunning out there and i get it because i watch the other guysand they all knew to run off the court and alsosay this. Each of thesesituations different because I just want to say,and this isn't like, this hasnothing to do with any, gender or anything
22:50like that. But Caitlin Clark,I don't feel the sameway because that situationthere was way more space to get off thecourt and she put her head downbecause she was frustrated,maybe that people were rushing the courtand just ran right into somebody.
23:06And she can say a word in a post game.That person's also in the wrong too.You know, like just having her head down.Like everybody has to have spatial awareness.This is a different situation to me than Caitlin Clark because there's no room for him to move.And these people are coming in hordes, like fast.They're a bunch of demon deacons, man.And so if the bars got shut that night and they couldn't go and this douchebag was to blame, he'd probably transfer.
23:32It's really, it's an event staff issue.Now, I root for a program, despite its many haters, has made it and hasn't stormed a court.in about 11 years.Last time they did it was against Duke,and you had probably 20 people in yellow vests,arms interlocked, letting the team leave the floor.You just have to let RMC events get onto the courtbefore the kids get there.
23:58And that's where your countdown clock comes out.Well, Wake Forest fucked that up.But I do think in general, we've seen this before.Back at NC State, like 10 years ago, a guy in a wheelchair,who's an NC State fan, the NC State fans of the rest of the court,he gets knocked off his wheelchair.I've seen the footage.he was like, yeah, I'm rushing the court.
24:13Yeah.And then all of a sudden it was like, no, you're not.You're just on the ground.And, you know, like, when you think about the safety concerns for, like, just students in general,they're opting into that situation.I get that.But when it comes to players, like, this is the very reason we're at the game.You could affect the outcome of the rest of the season.
24:34You know, you really do have to be careful with these guys.So I don't want to see court storming go away.and I don't want to see a group like Wake Forest be the group to end it.I mean, just figure it out, guys.For fuck's sake, if we don't change anything,just get the RMC guys down there.Yeah.I have about a 60-second storming the capital joke
24:55that I couldn't get to work.All right, try it.Try it.Documents show that an unquantifiable number of Wake fans were convincedthat representative democracy in the United Stateswas not only in decline,but an imminent existential danger.This belief translated into a widespread fear of democratic and societal breakdown,
25:14which in turn motivated hundreds of wake fans to travel to Winston-Salem from far corners of the countryand what they were convinced was the nation's most desperate hour.Other common reasons for breaching the court included participating in an event of historical significance,engaging in peaceful protests, committing acts of violence and participating in revolution, civil war, or secession.Like the Wake Forest situation, these people thought they were America's underdogs,but they were actually favored.There you go.Two and a half boy.
25:43They were laying two.You're white people, dude.White people are laying 12 in this country.Like you, come on.You're rushing the capital because, you know, you didn't even win anything.So at least Wake Forest won something.And they were favored by like, you know, that's good.Six-X less.
26:01That's good.Than American whites.That was the most.You want to talk about an unjustified storming.you were even a hundredthog.So January 6th was, they were minus 12.Yeah, they were like minus 350.They blew like a 3-1 lead, bro.
26:20By the 350.We rolled out a 91-year-old and beat you guys.I have a storm.I have a storming.I can barely talk.Trump should pull a KD.There you go.Yeah.
26:39Segway.Iowa,Michigan,Iowa beat Michigan State in probably like 0-1.And Iowa fans stormed the field because we weren't very good.And they beat Michigan State,who I think was top 10 at that time.My buddy, Johnny Pisetti,
26:54got a piece of what of the,what are the equipment guys from the Spartans.And I saw this from a distance because I was walking.He ran.He came from behind,flipped up the,ball, a Michigan State ball, caught the ball, and then ran all the way hard.He had a scufant's story. He still has the ball.
27:16That's so good.It was.What's his name, Johnny Piscati?Johnny Pissetti.Johnny Pissetti.J.P.Oh, is he one of the best hecklers in the game?One of the most impressive, one of the most impressive things I saw in the college football season
27:32was the Duke field storming when they beat Clemson.I didn't think Duke fans had it in them, but they were on that field in two seconds.So, I mean, we can't.Yeah.Let's stick with the storms.Accidents happen.But only if you're a dog.But you have to be an undertog.
27:48That's a real.That's a real.That's a guy.I do.That has to be kind of part of the...Listen, we're talking about fans,making a little to a segue when I brought up KD.I just want to talk about the deteriorating barrier between fan and player.
28:06Decorum.The decorum.No, really, we, I've said this before.we live in a generation of the biggest babies, sensitive people, but also the most aggressive people,all in the same person, dude. You know, we have no respect for anybody. I hate to sound like anold guy, but this generation is the no respect generation. It's the generation of no respect.It's the generation of hectic, but it's also the generation of really frail and sensitive,all at the same time. And it drives me fucking nuts. And nothing could be encapsulated better.
28:40than watching.Now, I know this is in a young person.This is just a fan,but KD running in the stadium of the night,a grown man calling him a bitchand expecting him not to do anything about it.And when he rolls up, like, two seconds later,not only is his lady friend
28:57doing the most painful DAP,like,DAP proposal of all time,but also KD, like,standing there, like, what's up, dude?You called me a bitch,and the guy begging him to be,his friend, like groveling and trying to pull on some empathetic thread about how he is a sports
29:16podcast. Newsflash, there isn't going to be a common thread that you guys are going to be ableto circle up over after you call another grown man a bitch in public. Okay, we don't take well to that.Okay. And sports fans just seem to be in a mood lately where they can do whatever the fuck theywant. And any pro athlete has had some sort of a situation like this, not any, but many of us havewhere somebody says whatever they want to youand the minute it's like thisthey totallychange their tune and
29:48I watched that and then I watched theCam Newton thing this weekend and I'm all over the mapabout just the disrespect intoday's society butlong you a ho! Can youimagine me going to a Julius Pepperscamp and jumpingJulius Peppers? Can you imagine
30:03any young persongoing to a campthat Julia, I know it's Julius Peppersbut you should checkthe fucking stats on Cam Newton physically.Not a good idea either.Okay? Like, I think don't get the quarterback thing twisted.Because I think Cam Newton in high school was stuffing people in lockers.
30:21When I've seen Cam Newton fight people, I want to give Cam the benefit of the doubt here.But I've seen him in arguments with young people before.He was at like another camp and these kids are like going at him like he's another person on X, dude.That's not another person on X.You don't get to be Skip Bayless.that's an MVP in the national football league.You will, chances are, never accomplish anything close to that guy, yet you are disrespecting him.Likely the very reason you're at that camp, you see it as an opportunity to, whether it's
30:55gang clout, talk shit like you're online, fucking have a story to tell about I punked Cam Newton,I said something to Cam Newton, I jumped Cam Newton.Are you fucking kidding me?Your life ends now.Like you will not do anything after this.This is the apex of your existence.Congratulations.You are on film trying to jump unsuccessfully a former MVP in the NFL.
31:19Whatever got it there, it's emblematic of the lack of respect we have.When I said, hey, seven on seven camp, more like seven on one camp.Okay?And Cam Newton, I've noticed this, whether he was fighting Josh Norman or a bunch of kids at a seven-on-seven camp.When he fights, people are in dream fight mode.They move slow as fuckHe is perfectly calmHe has done this before
31:43And I also think when you know nowadays as an athleteCameras are going to be outLike the minute you get an altercation with somebodyIf you're a public figureCameras are going to be outAnd so that means one of a few thingsI mean you might get your ass kicked on cameraYou might have to beat up a guy on camera
31:57Which isn't a good outcome eitherAnd all types of things in betweenHe managed to stick the landingOn the three most important thingsNumber one don't get your ass kickednumber two don't kick their asses but number three make it abundantly clear that you have the upper handphysically over these high schoolers and he was dog walking this group i don't know if we need torebrand that question everybody asked how many fifth graders does it take like how many ninth and
32:2510th and 11th graders or college kids or just young adults does it take to take down cam newtonhe was dog walking this guy by his backpack i have never seen a backpack becausemore of a disadvantageous piece of gear in a fight in my life.And, I mean, like, it was incredible.And he stuck the landing on this thing.But I hate the fact that Cam Newton has to, by the way, in a wizard hat, like afucking Gandalf hat.It didn't move.
32:53It did not move the whole time.Like, this guy.I went back to the Wizard of Oz.I got a scarecrow feel from him with the hat.It was incredible.It was like.It was incredible.And I just, I just say this.
33:06We can talk all about, like, and I know I'm being abstract, and I'm just all over the map,and I'm complaining about fans, and I'm complaining about young people, and I'm complaining aboutcourt rushers.But for fuck's sake, man, have some respect in 2024.Here's what I think is the problem with the whole thing.It's right there on the flyer of the seven-on-seven tournament.The real issue is in the name, dude.We ball sports times Dynasty U seven-on-seven tournament at B-E-S.T Academy.
33:33How about you're going to have to earn it tournament at, I don't know, nobody gives a fuck about you yet a catty.Like, how about something like that to drive home the fact that there is an untold amount of work, discipline, aptitude, and respect that you're going to need to exhibit to ever make the money or the memories or the impact that somebody like Cam Newton has?I can't stand that this stuff even happens.I can't stand that now that barrier is being broken down.It's great to break the barrier down between fans and playersthat we feel like we can have a conversation online with an athleteor to come up and say whatever we want to an athleteand put them on camera and all types of stuff.
34:17And I love the fact that Cam's mixing it up.Cam deserves credit for going back and trying to do a camp at all.Like he's done a lot of great work off the field.And I tip my cap to him.But at the end of day, Cam Newton is a grown fucking man.Okay?And grown men don't like being punked.men don't like situations like that and if you think that that because you think you're at the zoo
34:36and you could just like observe the animals you've jumped in the enclosure now and i kind of wish cam wouldhave dusted those cats up even worse but what cam knows is the three rules don't get your ass kickedon camera don't kick anybody's ass on camera he didn't even throw a punch he was just judoing theseguys dude he was like using their force against them just manhandling and the third thing of course ismake that abundantly clear that you have the upper hand it was very goodclear to me that he did. I don't know if we're over analyzing something, but I think it's,it's just emblematic of a time we live in, where it's like, we ball sports times dynasty Useven-on-seven tournament at B-E-S.T Academy. You're all full of shit, dude. The multiplier. I like the multiplier.
35:19Youth sports has gotten so full of shit. You know who I blame? Whoever's coaching these fucking kids.And I think it might have been some of the coaches that were involved in the jumping. And if they'recoaches? Yeah, they looked like kids.Bro, you shouldn't be coaching kids anymore.No.And you did look like kids.Like, maybe they're not high schoolers at all.You know, and maybe none of the high school is getting.
35:40I understand it's at least two of the guys were youth football coaches.Okay.Well, and if a kid jumped in or whoever is young people, people that aren't Cam Newton,have some fucking respect, man.This guy's down here.He doesn't need to be doing this stuff.The reason we have the video is from the assailant one would gather.Like somebody just didn't randomly time this video.
36:00It's probably like, hey, I'm about to go do it.Yeah, like they just like, well, I think there was a scuffle.There was some sort of scuffle going on.And then Cam's like, and then you see people punching Cam and it's not affecting him at all.And he's this, this, he threw the guy in the backpack so far.There are multiple camera angles of this.Yep.Like, it's, it's incredible and tragic at the same time because I just think like when you meet somebody like Cam Newton, maybe just show him your respect.
36:25No doubt.Ask him a question.Ask him how he got there.Like, what the fuck are we doing?And why does everything have to be conflict?Like, why does everything have to be so goddamn hectic in this day and age 2024?Every time I open up the browser, it's a bunch of hectic confrontational bullshit.It's like, this is the currency now is like, I got to win everything.
36:46I got a punk, Cam Newton.I got a, man, just fucking run a route and shut the fuck up.Run mesh and shut the fuck up, buddy.Like, get an autograph and keep it moving, player.That's Cam Newton.He won the Heisman trophy and was this close to winning a Super Bowl.He won the most valuable player in the NFL.You're playing touch football.
37:13You've organized a bunch of kids to run around and pull flags off of each other.Get back in your fucking Honda Accord and fuck off.That reminds me of one of the funniest things I ever heard.Run a route and shut the fuck up.Run a route.Just.Run mesh and fuck off, dude.What?
37:35Cam is 6, 8, like, what?I mean, bro, he's like...He's one of the strongest football players that I ever played against.The grip strength on this guy.I really do want to see him what he was like in high school.I think he was literally stuffing people in lockers.Hey, don't think Just Talk.What color Gatorade is that?
37:55Oh, that's a green Gatorade.Okay.All right.All right.So, anyways, I just ran over, but it's...like you know i i feel like these kids nowadays which yeah like you said we sound mad at everybodybut with with social media they have access and there's more access and these these theseplayers and these celebrities are out in front of people and they're seeing things we're back in
38:20the day that wasn't happening and and i they feel like they're more connected to them whetherit's good or bad yeah and they feel like they have a right to comment on certain things i don'tAnd it doesn't.And it goes back to respect.I think that's a great point.Where there's just a lack of it.Just have some fucking respect, man.I don't know how this started.
38:38For anybody.It doesn't need to be.Maybe camp started it.I don't know.I don't know.But everybody's got to be so goddamn hard.Okay?You're at a flag football camp.
38:49That's not the guy to be hard with.Nobody's seven on seven.Sorry.You don't even have to grab the flag.You might as well just be in a play 60 commercial.What the fuck are we doing, dude?anyways here's brian bomb gardener yeah dude here's brian bomb gardner a man of respect who would never arguewith cam newton not ever not once so without further ado brian bomb garner he's he i feel like we're
39:18friends now i went on his podcast we really hit it off and then we missed each other in vegas brinewe were catching up you were at the gronk beach party how was i i was i i mean i felt like you wereavoiding me a little bit i mean we had big plans we were going to havehang out.Yeah.I end up seeing your producers and not you.It was really weird deal.I felt like you were avoiding me.
39:40Yeah, Grunk Beach in Vegas.How was that?Who would want to be anywhere else?Yeah.How was it?It was entertaining.I tell you, it was entertaining.I, look, you know, I don't even know what's supposed to go to these things means,
39:58but like there are some things I feel like I'm supposed to go, I'm supposed to show upfor and I went thinking I was going to leave well first off I walked in right behind gronkand his is his brothers which oddly I had done that one other time before which was on anespie's red carpet I had showed up right behind the gronk plan this goes back clan this goes backa few years and they started doing the wheelbarrow on the red carpet like grabbing each other'slegs and letting them wheelbarrow down? And I was like, well, clearly I'm out of place here.They're big strong boys. They're big strong boys, those gronk boys. Very strong and exceedinglyenergetic, gronk boys. I think, I think he and Kelsey are attempting to not only prove who is the
40:59greatest tight end of all time, but who has the most energy and can party the hardest.I feel like that competition is going on at the same time.Well, I think Jason wins that competition.I know he's not in the competition because we're just talking tight ends, but do you seehow drunk clearly Travis is at these parades?I got to tell you, Jason Kelsey would have blown like a two-oh.You would have blown a GPA at our fucking, at our parade, but he delivered that speech witheloquence.
41:28So I think he wins the contest.He claims he had 25 beers and was five out of 10 drunk.I do not doubt that either.I do not doubt that.I don't doubt that.Those Ohio boys, man.Yeah.So I wanted to talk to you about one place where they're really good at drinking.
41:44Green Bay, Wisconsin, you're a Packers fan.We talked a little bit about this on your podcast, which is wonderful.And I can't wait to circle back to that whole thread on jobs and what you did before you made it.but I wonder how you feel about the old Brian Baumgardner,as you remember lamenting the draft pick of Jordan Love,as you're up nine, ten points in the second half against the 49ers this year.Well, look, I, wow.You know, I haven't had to answer these tough questions.
42:17I thought rich eyes and answer you on these.I thought we were friends.I get on good morning football.They don't ask me these questions anymore.Now, here you come, just boom, hard hitting.Look, I will say what I said.I will not stand down from the comments that I made,which was that the situation was just handled really poorly.
42:47And look, I think that there was a time where not only were they looking for this transition,But the leadership of the Packers believed that this transition was going to happen much earlier.Aaron's numbers for a couple of years had dipped, and there were questions as to why that had happened.And they drafted Jordan, and they didn't communicate, and they were in the NFC championship game,knowing that they needed playmakers to take that next step.It was very clear that year.Yeah.And the year before, the year before the draft.
43:31And instead of taking a playmaker, they traded up to take Jordan Love without communicating with Mr. Rogers.I still feel like that was a bad decision.Now, I think further, based on the Packers' own comments before the start of this year,I think that they were not sure what they had.Yeah, no, I agree.Yeah, I agree.So the fact that I didn't know when I know a 100th of what the guys who are there know, you know, so I can't really apologize for that.But, I mean, look, he's looked great.
44:14And you know what I was talking about, too, in the playoffs?He looks and sounds like Aaron now.Yeah, he does.It's a bizarre.I mean, even that like, Green 18, it's like, oh, my God, who's behind center right now?Like, what is going on?Some of the plays that he makes also looks like him.Some of those back foot throws look like him.
44:47And look, that makes sense.I mean, I understand there's a lot of reasons that.that people need to play their quarterbacksthat they draft early, early.But, I mean, you look at the Green Bay Packersand what's happened,and you hear all the stuff, particularly out of Chicago,like, man, now it's three in a row,
45:08three guys in a row who are going to kick our assfor the next, you know, 20 years or whatever.I can't believe they get so lucky.And it's like, well, guys, they did have both Aaron Rogersand Jordan Love sitting.and watching and learning for a few years.And these other organizations have gotten into a place where they believe they've got to draft and play the guy right away.Or the general manager is going to get fired or, you know, the coach is going to be fired.
45:40So we've got to play these guys right away.They're not ready.And by the way, if they're drafting high in the first round, their team was shitty to begin with.So they probably don't have a strong offensive line.They probably don't have pieces in place.And so it's just a recipe for disaster.And so you get to a situation.And by the way, I have no comment on this.
46:00I have no idea where you get three, four years in and you're like, can Justin Fields play?Right.Like what do you want the bears to do looking at him as rivals?Yeah, well, yeah, but what do you know?And I just said, how do you know when they've been lacking so many pieces?I don't know.It's just granted, the Packers have had someone who could start when they've drafted these other guys.That's been fortuitous, so they didn't feel like they had nobody and they had to play these guys.
46:33But it's still, I'm telling you, it does go to like if you look at looking at a team culture-wise sort of globally or by the decade as opposed to by the year, they seem to be getting that.They seem to be getting that right.No, they are. And, you know, two things can be true at the same time. They're not mutually exclusive that we could all sit there and scratch our heads looking back at it. Because I was one of those people that was like, what are we doing? They're just poking the bear. Like Aaron's had it. And this is like the last straw. And yeah, you could not do that communicatively. And that can be a big problem. But it can also eventually be the right move, even if for the better part of the last three, four years, you had no fucking clue how good the guy was. You know, because I think the jury was out as, you know,as late as mid-season.I can remember you guys playing Minnesota this year.And the offense that you ran in that game, to me, at Green Bay,was like a preseason offense.It was like, we're not even trying to see what this kid has.
47:33And I think they reached a point last year where they were like,we have to figure this out.And the minute they flipped the switch and we're like,let's loosen the reins.I don't know what happened internally.He looked like a franchise quarterback to me.And I'm not going to move off that spot.I know it's a small sample size,
47:49but I really like the guy.Well, look, to echo your point, and geez, I think this was later.I think this was November.We have to look it up.I think maybe the first week of November, I actually was in Vegas live for the Packers game at the Raiders and had remarkable seats.It's kind of the first time in a long time where I feel like I was in a stadium inseats where I could actually see things better than on television.Yeah, it's a great stadium.
48:25Like I, it's intimate.I was like, this is not like a humble brag thing.I just got lucky.I was sitting right about the 50, kind of up.So it was almost like my view was like the television, you know, where I could see everythingside to side, but also I could see more than the television allows me to see.like I could see, you know, running back, running out on the wheel route or whatever.That's just an example.
48:55And I was seeing so, they looked horrible.They were terrible.And like, it wasn't even, like, I was like, he's right there, Jordan.Like, it felt like he couldn't see the field.He wasn't making the right decisions.Yeah.He was forcing to his first option.You know, there was like all of these things.
49:15And then something happened.happened between then and I don't know. It may have just been like two weeks later, but the,the Thanksgiving Day game was incredible. Was, was unbelievable. Nobody kicked the lion's ass likethey kicked the lion's ass that day. Nobody, oh, yeah, well, the Ravens in Baltimore, but nobody, and it wassuch an intimate opponent, it kind of signaled to me like, okay, you don't have this divisionon lock the way you might have thought you did. So like Lions fans, they've got a lot of enjoymentover the last two seasons, very much hopeful, very much like, oh, this could be ours.Aaron Rogers is gone.
49:52It's like, well, behind door number two is this kid that just kicked your ass on Thanksgiving.And I feel like from a team building standpoint, they have what it takes to stay in it.But you got a Georgia Q-Zip on.I don't want to be.I do.Yeah.So football life is pretty good for you right now, I'm assuming.You are from the Atlanta area, and this confirms what was going to be my next question.
50:12How into Georgia are you?So it's a weird one for me.because I did,I went to school at SMU,hail to the red and the blue,the Mustangs of SMU,just joining the ACC.Yeah, which is November.
50:27November.They'll be here in November.Come on, come to Scott Stadium.SMU at Virginia.Come on, road trip, man.Oh, that's right.They are playing at Virginia.Wahoo Wah, the dumbest cheer in the history of college sports.
50:40Okay, Southern Millionaires University.You're the only school that might be more pretentious than UVA.By the way, do you know that the,ours is Deadman College,the,the,this is,this is,
50:54this goes,I can't even believe I remember this.The dome,like the,the main,the center main building at SMUmodeled after years.No way.
51:04That is true.The rotunda.What do you call it there?Rotunda?Well,it's that Greek revival architecture with the big columns.And the problem with Greek revival is,it looks very good old,
51:15but when people,do it now, to me it looks like shit.Right.You know what I mean?So I don't know what year you guys put that dome up.I'm sure there was plenty of funding.There was plenty of funding.We didn't.
51:27How rich are kids at SMU?Like, is it what they say?Is it just like people just burning through money, driving Ferraris to class?Like, what is it?I didn't.I know you didn't.I don't know that for sure.Well, I didn't.
51:41You don't strike me as that kind of guy.No, I didn't do that.But no, they, well, so as you have mentioned in a negative way, they have a lot of money.But what that means is they have as a big positive.And for me, and the reason I went there, they had a lot of money that they used to support the arts.So they ran their arts program like Alabama runs their athletic department.You know, they recruit people in, you know, theater, dance, all of the, you know, sort of performing arts.They take it very, and the visual arts, as I understand.
52:27So that's why I went there.But growing up, like my seven, eight-year-old, nine-year-old self, and continuing, I grew up,born, raised in the Atlanta area, I would spend weekends in Athens.for the University of Georgia football games.And that was,honestly,that was my first true sports love.Now,
52:55probably because the Braves were terrible,the Falcons were worse than terrible.The Hawks,they had a little run with Dominique Wilkins there,but,you know,they could never beat Boston than MJ.But Georgia was good.
53:11I mean,this is like Herschel Walker days.So you just missed Pony Express at SMU?No, I'm not that.I just wanted to make sure by how many years?I'm not that old.I'm not.I'm not.
53:25No, so the Pony Express had happened.The Pony Express had happened.I was probably, and I went back, and I couldn't ever specifically remember,I was probably rooting against SMU then when, because that was early 80s, when, when, you know,Eric Dickerson and Craig James and all those guys were at SMU.So they were probably up there in the top five.I think they were in the top five, like the year Georgia didn't win with Herschel,maybe the junior year or something.
53:57Anyway, so I, but that was my first love.And I had lost contact with the University of Georgia, like the athletic department.I didn't know anybody there.I had moved, obviously, long way away.I had gone back for a game just sort of randomly at some point,wanted to take somebody to an SEC football game.but then Josh Brooks, their newish athletic director,somebody in the athletic department when he got the job,
54:24and he had been there for a while,he got the job to be the athletic director,they sent me a message and asked me to,he is a big fan of the office,and they asked me to send him a congratulatory messagefrom me to him getting the job.So I looked at, you know, I was like, oh, this is fun.And I, you know, did the whole go dogs thing and got all excited.
54:50And I don't know.I guess I was in a good mood that day.Anyway, Josh releases it.And it goes like viral.The fact that I send this message goes viral.And then he somehow gets a hold of me and says, anytime you want to come, anywhere, anywhere, anytime you're my guest.And so I was like, okay, okay.And so I've been sort of back now into the program.
55:18I've gone to at least a game or two the last couple of years.And it's been really fun.You know, that reminds me of when we went down to Tuscaloosa, Kevin.You know, like my first love was Virginia,but the first time I really felt that atmosphere was this past fall.We took a road trip down to Tuscaloosa to watch them play LSU.And we got a Bama flag in studio.the SEC football is just a little different.
55:44You know, it's just, you know, like the whole atmosphere.Yeah, and so what we're trying to do now is plan a couple trips in the fall that we're going to take.So, like, have you been to other college towns in the SEC?I hear Athens is, like, number one, or Oxford is up there.Tuscaloose is obviously in the league of its own.It's beautiful.Tuscalo, it's not as good as Athens.Let's be clear about that.
56:05Though there are a couple of away games that are very intriguing.this year. I mean, if wedid not have a12-team playoff in college footballthis year, man,I don't even know what would happen.I mean, Georgia has to go to Tuscaloosaand
56:25toAustin for Texas joining the SEC.Now that... So you let me knowI will meet you there.We're going to scout Austin out. We're going to South bySouthwest in a week to do someout there.So we're going to scout out Austin, and we'll look at maybe Week 5, Georgia Bama, but also possibly Austin.
56:48Brian, do you gamble in real life?Because obviously, Kevin Malone was a big gambler.And for people to find out that you're actually a huge sports fan, like the second question for me is,are you also a degenerate gambler like the people on the set?I like to make a wager every now and then.Talk to us about the kinds of wages you like, Brian.What's your what's your what's your what's your what's your drink of choice?Well look let's let's just let's just be very very I was at I was in Vegas now partly I was in Vegas.
57:20Partly it was a Super Bowl.Partly it was I had no dog in the fight there with the Chiefs and the Niners because ofrecent is decade long history with the Niners.And my Packers, let's just say I'm not a Niners fan.I hear that.But I made a, I was a big Chiefs fan on Super Bowl Sunday.Let's just put it that way.So were we, buddy.
57:52Congratulations.So were we.We had a great day, didn't we?We had a great week.Great day.It was great.There were people saying, hey, Mahomes is not the same with this team.We had to just block out the noise and make the smart play.
58:04You know, if they give you a couple points with Mahomes, you take it.You,you know,it gives you 10,000 one odds.You take it.Yeah, exactly.No, that's great.No, so this is,
58:16this is actually not a humble brag.This is a full-on brag.I think,so there's six games,four games,two games,12,and then the Super Bowl,
58:27right?So 13 playoff games.Yeah.Prior to the Super Bowl,this is true.I know a lot of people brag,whatever,believe me or not. I'm just telling you it's true. I might believe you because it might have
58:40happen to me too, but I had gone against the spread the first 12 games,yeah, nine and three. If I'm counting the games right, I had three losses. Two of themwere Mahomes against Buffalo. Okay. I bet Buffalo. Yeah. And Mahomes against the Ravens. I bet the Ravens.See. And I was not, I was not going to do a three-peat on that. I was. I was,It was just like, okay, I'm done.I believe.Like, whatever.The regular season apparently doesn't matter.
59:12I don't care.But I'll tell you what got me nervous in Vegas, like doing the radio road deal andthe first half of the game.I thought we were going to lose.The first half of the game.I was like, oh, shit, everybody's right.Well, yeah.Well, no, doing the radio road, my experience was everyone was picking the chiefs.
59:32And the number wasn't changing.And they were still an underdog.And I was like, Vegas is smarter than me.me. Vegas, no, they know. They're going to, they're going to rake this, but no, it was a good day.They took a bath the week before. They just, the Vegas don't quit. They're just going to dowhat they're going to do. So, I guess the, the interesting question, I just mentioned Kevinas a character, but like, you, there's so much more to you than Kevin, but I feel likeeverybody just knows Kevin because it's such an iconic show and you were such a big part of it.
01:00:03And like, you, I mean, we grew up with you. It wasn't like, we were.kids but in your 20s and when you're like matriculating into the real world the office is veryit was these were we were in college yeah right so you know i i i wonder you got a whole generationof people who probably come up and they're like hey kevin you know like in there is that a pet peeve or do youenjoy you know being a part of something like that because i know it's easy for for me to say hey it'sgreat like yeah people know you as kevin malone but like there's a lot more that you're interested inand have done, does that ever bother you?Well, so, I mean, this is sort of a long answer,
01:00:42but I think to your first point about, like, growing up with me,you know, I think that sometimes television is like sports in a way,and I've gotten to know, so, like, I was, you know, I was a big Braves guy,and when Smolts and Maddox and Glaven were there,and I was rooting for them.But I was in high school at the time, right?well now I've gotten to know them through golf and I realize like they were they had lives and wereon television every day or whatever and you know larger than life to me they're like kind of my age
01:01:22you know what I mean so when you're like watching sports sometimes and you think of of you knowespecially now like college guys you know you're like oh god like you have to remind yourself likeThey're like 17.Yeah, I'm a fan of a person that was like a baby a couple years back.Right, right.That's a fucking weird thing.So here's the thing about the office.It is, to me, the only show in the history of television, if you can think of another example, no one's been able to yet, that actually got bigger and more popular once it was done.
01:02:01Right.So, and I'm not talking about like a cult weird kind of B movie that suddenly becomes like hot later on and becomes like a thing.We were winning Emmys, like, you know, the Screen Actors Guild Award was last night.You know, we were, you know, we won that stuff and we were NBC's biggest show.But we were coming off of Friends, Seinfeld.And when we were on, we were not that.Like we just, we just categorically weren't.didn't support us that way. We weren't, you know, spoiler alert. I wasn't on Vogue, you know,
01:02:37or like Cosmo every month or what this wasn't, this wasn't what happened. So the show just got biggeronce it was done with the streaming. It fit really well with streaming. And so, you know, as a longway of answering your question, you know, it's hard to blame people who, you know, get excited about that or, youknow, call me Kevin or whatever.I mean, I have guys that I play golf with, like guys who are like, you know, guys I play with once a week, whatever.And, you know, I'll be on whole 12 and hit a good shot.The guy I'll say, like, good shot, Kev.I like fucked it up.
01:03:22And it's like, and just like, because they call me, in their brain somewhere there, like Kevin still exists.and I don't complain or, you know, I usually don't say anything.They'll realize it or someone will go, dude, you just called him Kevin.What are you doing?And then like a whole later they'll be like, hey, Brian, keep calling me, Brian.I'm like, I don't care.I don't care.Well, yeah.
01:03:49George Takeda has been going to Star Trek conventions for 50 years, making bank.Like there are worse things that to be known for the greatest TV show in history.Right, exactly.But like when this is released, are you going to go?and look to see if we've said interview with Brian Baumgartner or interview with Kevin from the office.Does that bother you?By the way.Hmm.
01:04:10You, my guess is you will do a combination of both to make sure people get it.Yeah.It's, you know, I think because of some of the stuff I've been doing the last few years, there's, it's much more Brian now than it used to be.but it's weirdI have this conversation all the timeI don't know if this will make sensethis might be too like meta or somethingwe are meta
01:04:39but like what will happen isin situations like what you're talking aboutand I'll exaggerateit will be likethe guy who spilled the chiliKevin Malonefrom the officewhich
01:04:56they'll do this whole thingAnd then I'll appear or whatever.But what I always tell people, and this is, especially when I tell people, like, in the branding world, in the, you know, the products world, whatever, is like, guys, they either know or they don't know.So, like, explaining it for 30 minutes, like giving these little, like, insider, like, oh, you know, he spilled the chili and liked to gamble.And it's like, well, they either know who I am at this point or they don't.And so those little references don't do any good.So that's the one thing where I do get like, come on, guys.Like, let's be smart about this.
01:05:43Well, we're not going to do that.But there are questions that we want to ask.The first one would be, because we're talking about sports,is it legit that you guys have a fantasy football league that's lasted,I don't know how long I heard 19 years?100%.It's 18 or 19 years.I mean, I would have to get the stats for you, but no, that's legit.
01:06:01We started it.So it wouldn't have been year one.So it would have been like year two.Too much more on.I'm going to say like if you want to do the math.So we've been doing it since I would say 2004.So what?That's 19 then, I think.
01:06:23We just finished 19.we used to take us like a week to 10 days to draftuntraditionalthat is not very we had ayou know a yellow you know like because we werewe were on a set of the officea yellow legal pad you know that flips upwith the pages and that would be
01:06:44that right there that that thingthat would be passed from desk to deskso like I've never done it gone backto some of those early Csand stuff to see if I could ever see that on somebody's desk like mine and so they would pass it around and you would but maybe you were literally shooting a scene at that moment or it was lunch or you it was your turn but you for whatever reason got to go home early that day so it would take us like a week to 10 days yeah to draft there was no time limit no auto drafting no no no like ESPN database to like check onwhat Jericho Kotry's up to.Well, no, that was the thing.It was like once it was your turn,
01:07:30you could be like, okay, guys, yeah, I'm just working on this little thing.And then you would just look at every player that's out there.You would have, you know, an hour to decide who you were going to pick.And then I'll tell you this, I haven't talked about this too much.This was, this was maybe only a year or two.The computers, they worked on the set.And at least one or two years, once the draft became like you could draft, we would sit at the desks, like after we were filming at night or whatever, and we would do the draft there.Oh, that's so great.
01:08:09What's the punishment?Have you guys ever had a real punishment?Never punished.Because we have a league.That's crazy.That's what it's all about.I know.Yeah.
01:08:16I don't know.Maybe, I don't know.And I guess maybe this, like, dates me age-wise or something.I don't know if that was a big thing back then when we started it.But what about for year 20?You guys got to do something.We had a guy on a billboard for like seven months who lost.I set up one of those like legal ambulance chaser billboards.
01:08:40And it was like, if you want fantasy football advice, don't call Michael Lewis, 188 lose.And it was by the airport.And I forgot the motherfucker was up.So it stayed for a year.We've had guys die in their tips.I think we posed this year that you've got to wear the new Trump shoes for like a couple months of your leagues.Oh, is that right?Yeah.
01:09:02So there's a lot of really dicey punishments that we've rolled out.And I just wonder if for year 20 you might.Who's actually good in your league?Well, so I think the reason, I think why they end up dying is because, you know, you've got people who are not into it.we are we are we are it's a serious thing like we everybody takes it seriously but back to the like nopunishment thing i will say this too i don't think we have changed what the ante is in 19 years soit's also sort of embarrassingly small at this point uh it's a little more than that but it's notyou know it's not like we haven't we haven't grown with inflation it's
01:09:51to sort of stay the same.It's not like the salary cap in the NFL.Yeah.But we, yeah, people take it very seriously.There are a lot of texts.We do now, because now we've got guys who live everywhere.I mean, I don't live in Los Angeles anymore.So, but we, we have the, like, Zoom happening at the same time that the draft is happening
01:10:14so we can kind of, you know, talk shit with each other.And it's, it's good.I will tell you this.before you ask, because I think we looked up this stat because we talked about it on my podcast.I think this was last year.I have been to the quote unquote Super Bowl of our fantasy league more than anyone else.I've never won.Wow.
01:10:41Oh, way, dude.Buffalo Bills.That was never won.That was me for a while.That's why.And it's hard to talk about because I understand.understand what was happening was more significant my year to win was um uh not this year but last year andthe uh the bills bengals game that got oh yeah everybody got yeah it was crazy it was like oh i feel
01:11:08terrible about the sport of football but and but but but yeah uh Brian Chris is the guy inour league who does not set his lineup and though this looks a little bettertoday. He drafted little known Romeo Dobb. I've been drafting Romeo Dawes forbefore his rookie season and about the fifth round. Okay, but he keeps, he keeps gettingbetter and better next year. It's going to be right on time. The, the bug that Chris has caughtis Madden. And legend has it that you and Krasinski during lunch used to have epic Madden battles.Every day. In the mid-aughts. No way. Every day. Okay, give me your styles ofplay. Well, so now
01:11:53this iswe're going, this is years agonow. You have to, you have to rememberthat. Andnow I feel like I buy it every yearand then I don't really have anyone to play. I don't know.Dude, you got me. You got me. I amgoing online and like
01:12:11finding a friend. That just seemsso, I'm waytoo old for that shit. He's right here, dude.He's right here. I'm just telling you, dude,I hadn't had the game sincecollege. I got it like a month ago and I'm so impressed with it. Although there'sglitches and bugs, it can't be perfect. It's a fucking great game. You can run RPO's.You can you can kind of like coach your team for emphasis. So next year's it's not out.
01:12:37So you're you play this is right now. Yeah. This is 23 or 24. I always get it mixed up as like cars.I'm like okay. Well, it's 2024. But me and my brother Kyle play almost every night,but Kyle's like too fucking cool for school. So a lot of nights.I'm sitting there waiting with my controllerwhile he's playing hell diversor some nerd game.And I'm like, dude, I want to play some madden's.So I got to get your gamer tag
01:13:00if we might, we could set up a game.Yeah, I mean, I have that.I don't think I've ever done it.But no, we would play every single day at lunch, every day.So this was, so he's a,he's a Boston guy.So I would say that the like,um,
01:13:19our like go to.this is serious matchup was he would be the Patriots and weirdly I would be theso this we're looking like you know what are they late aughts right so like the you knoweight you know six seven eight nine right in there and and and moving in but my my memoryof our epic battles when we could choose who we wanted was he was a Patriotsand weirdly I was the Chargers.Oh, wow.No one could stop my Gates play.
01:14:00I would scream to him as I was throwing rivers to Gates.Gates play!Just he would take that seam right down the middle and I would loft it over,touchdown every time.But have you done this yet?This was this was like we were children.I can't believe I.I don't think.
01:14:22I've ever said this.We would take our finger and hit the down arrow.And it was random select who you were.Oh, yeah.We do random selection.You do, yeah.So you hit the thing and it goes, blah, la la la la la la.And then you'd have to stop.
01:14:40You end up with like the Cardinals or the lions in 2008.Yeah.But then we would, just like children, it would be like, oh, that's not fair.Let's do it again.How old does that now?Of course.course he's like i'm not playingpanthers against the
01:14:56you know he did that last nighthe had an 85 overall and he was like i don't like these matchupsum all right well well who's the uh who'swho's who's out of the whole office cast who rooted for the shittiest team in real lifewell i mean my least favorite team on the planet is the seahawks so i guess i could sayrain rain yeah he's a big seahawks fan obviouslywhat yeah they were our rivals we went up there every year and got our asses kicked andI was a follower of rain on like Twitter and I'd see him tweeting about the Seahawks.
01:15:26And I'd be like, could you not?Just fucking, yeah.They're the luckiest team in football.Yes, they are.Yes, they are.For that stretch there and you guys were victims to that in the playoffs.Are you kidding me?I still have nightmares about it.
01:15:43Michael Bennett riding around the fucking field on a bicycle.Yeah.Oh my God.Let me just, let me just throw the ball as high.high as I can and suddenly someone is there.I'm telling you. Let me, let me do an onside kick in the last two minutes of a game thatnever works and somehow it's recovered. It's like video game stuff. For real. All right, so I wantto talk to you about your podcast off the beat, which I went on, which was awesome. It was really
01:16:13a good time. Obviously, you're a great conversation with. May I? Yeah. I listen to some,I listened because I'm a big prep guy, as you know. I wanted to hear Brian'spodcasting shots.Went potty in the toilet.And I swear to you,doing his work.Brian was so well prepped himself,and it gave you room to answer questions
01:16:34unlike I've heard you answer.It was fun.It was such a good interview.It's a great pod, dude.And I just think you're a good interviewer.And, you know, I mean, just case in point,what else do you do besides your main gig?Like, you're also a great interview.
01:16:47You got a podcast.And I wonder who's your bucket list, like,kind of, you know, if I could get this guy on, that would be amazing.That's interesting.Well, so look, and this is not me trying to sell.I'm just going to tell you this is the truth.I mean, what I, thank you for saying that, by the way.What I like to find out about, because I feel like it informs those moments.
01:17:13I mean, one of the, like, logline things I say is, like,plenty of people are asking people about winning an Oscar or winning an Emmy.or winning a Super Bowl or whatever.And so not that those things shouldn't be mentioned,but for me,what's really interesting is looking at some momentsthat really got you there or put you on a journeyor enabled you to, you know,
01:17:39that just took you on a path that was different.And so being able to sort of focus some on those momentsis fascinating to me.I mean, I just mentioned Smoltz, and I think because I, you know, I just talked to him.I think we aired it this week or last week.And hearing him talk about, I know this is football, but just go with me a second on baseball.The first guy ever with 300 wins and 150 saves.And, okay, so we can say, like, great job.
01:18:14But hearing him talk about finishing a season with.with, I think it was 54 saves.I'm not as prepped right now, but, you know, over 50 saves,he said, I was so much more exhausted, physically, mentally,finishing that than like when I was pitching 300 inningsand had 20 wins or whatever.And so just talking, and I'd never heard,I never heard him or anybody else sort of talk about that difference
01:18:47from a really real play.And so that II appreciate you saying I'm good at itBut I love I love doing itI find it so interesting and and and and and and and then get to know you know guys like you that I've been a fan of before and we get to have a real conversation and hopefully have a couple of laughs and that'sIt's it's it's really fun for meWell I got a couple names for you hereWhoopi Goldberg
01:19:16Whoopi Goldberg worked in a mortuary and was a phone sex operatorbefore she became Whoopi Goldberg.Brad Pitt worked at El Pollo Loco, dressed as a chicken.You should probably get him on.Christopher Walkin.It was a lion tamer.And then you're not going to believe what Channing Tatum was.He was actually a stripper.
01:19:36So that could be an interesting one.Oh, really?I just booked all your guests for this season.Wow.Well done.I appreciate that.Google, Google.All right, a little bit of office backstory, two-parter.
01:19:49one, you go in to read for the part of Stanley.Did you not get it because you weren't a middle-aged black man?Good. That was a joke. Good. Everybody laughed.And number two, do you know who else was up for the role of Kevin and who obviously did not get it?Yes. Do you know?He's a prep guy. I've done my research.Yeah. All right. Well, okay. Well, well, well, well, well, well, done. First of all.on both on both on both parts i was for the for the socioeconomic level that i was at at the time i was
01:20:30probably i was one of the first that had this was tvo back then right so this is before you couldtape anything at any time for as much as you wanted and i had that because i wanted to watchi felt like if i have an audition and i don't know what's the style ofof the show. What, you know, not just is it a comedy or drama, but like, is it like two and a halfmen or is it like the office or like, you know, so like what is the sensibility? And if I don't,if I don't know shows. So I spent a lot of time when I moved to Los Angeles just watching television.And I found this British show called The Office. Then I heard that the office was happening here.And I went to my agent and manager at the time. And I said, this is, this is my show. This is,
01:21:16this is it. I get this.The sensibility of this.And not only is this my show, but there's this charactercalled Keithwhowas the basis forthis role of Kevin Malone.So I got an audition for Stanley.
01:21:33And I knew that that was not the role.Who, by the way, in the British versionthat way, he was notto part one of your question, he was notplayed by a middle-aged black man.He was a white bloke. He was a white bloke.He was.was a white bloke.
01:21:48But I knew that that was not it for me.So I went in and I read for Stanley, as I was instructed to do.But I read it as though I was Kevin.And yeah, it's just one of those gambols.Now looking back, like, I don't even know how I had the balls to do it if it was thatpreparation or whatever.But it worked out.I left the room and I was like, well, five.
01:22:16That was stupid.But then the casting directorcame running out and said,hey, we have this other rolewe want you to look at.And then after some time,the rest is history.But so when Steve Correll
01:22:30left the show, to answeryour part two of the question was who else wasup, the casting director,Alison Jones, unbelievable,legendary, tons of shows,arrest development,curbier enthusiasm,the office,
01:22:46You were in arrested development.I was all over your IMDB today.It's a very small part.But I like the dog role in CSI.That's my favorite role.It's the dog roll in CSI.Do you know what that was?No, I just, I, no.
01:23:02I don't watch CSI.This was, I believe, my first network appearance.Dogman.Man, dog boy, man and dog.That's what they had you as dog man.Yeah, dog man.Do you know what that was?Do you know what that was?
01:23:17What was it?An episode of CSI.And I didn't even know what this was at the time.I wouldn't even consider myself sheltered.Do you know?It was about furries.Furries.Furbies?
01:23:29Furbies.No, Furbies are the consumer craze from the early odds.Furies.Yes.Sexual gratification amongst people wearing mascot outfits, basically.Like, that was the deal.Whatever floats your boat.Hey man, to each his own.
01:23:47Yeah.So who was going to be Kevin?Sorry about the furry sidebar.So, oh God, I haven't thought about that in a long time.Oh, so Allison Jones came to me.Steve Carell was leaving.We had a party.And she said, you know, I was looking through all my old notes and all my old like
01:24:07keepsakes to find something cool to give to him now that he's leaving about theaudition process. She said, I didn't really find anything for him, but I found this for you. And shehanded me this piece of paper, slightly yellowed, old piece of paper that was typed. And it set onit, Kevin Malone. And I don't remember the order. And I don't think it was by order, but it wasone, two, three. And it was me. It was Eric Stone Street who went on to play and win Emmys forCam in Modern Family. He's done really well for himself.And the third name was Jorge Garcia from Lost and a bunch of other shows.The big guy on Lost and a bunch of other shows as well.
01:24:54So like the cool thing about that is, yeah, I know exactly who the last three were.And it kind of worked out for everybody, which I think is cool.Like in terms of our business anyway, and maybe it's the same, you know, in football, like, you know, oh, I ended up going to this team or that team.but it all worked out.So one question I had for you about the technical part of the show,which I think is so interesting because as a guy who grew up hating laugh tracks,even as a child, like they were...Good for you.
01:25:28That's a barrier to entry for me, even today with Seinfeld.And that makes me very unpopular amongst a lot of my friends,but I am not a laugh track guy.How aware were you as a cast that you guys were doing something differentand how different was it at that point to omit the laugh?laugh track and do you think you'd change the game a little bit because parks and rec and all these otherkind of the same kind of shows have have have have have stuck without it well no i mean it was a humongousdeal um there had been some shows that had not had a laugh track before but nothing mainstream
01:26:01network wise so like you know if if you were to say like what was what is well and and rickyjerva's from the english uh from the british version brings up this show having a huge influence butthe Larry Sanders show, which is an HBO comedy, which if you don't know it, it still holdsup.It's really, really funny with Gary Shanling and Jeffrey Tambor, who obviously went on to arrestdevelopment.But in terms of network, yeah, it was not happening at the time.And so we knew, and not just for our show, not just the lack of a laugh track, but also
01:26:39the way the show was shot with the camera moving around, it being a little.jiggly, you know, I mean, at the time, well, it was documentary and that's what we were supposed to be was like a documentary.So, you know, all of those things fit in, but we knew it would be difficult.But I'll tell you from the, from the second episode we shot, which was this little episode called Diversity Day, I knew then.I remember it just so clearly sitting there, like in between shots and saying, if people givethis show a chance. I don't know if they will or not. But we're doing something that's prettyunique and pretty freaking awesome. Yeah. And, you know, both in terms of the content, like,that we were talking about and joking about race, which, you know, people say you can't do it today.
01:27:33You couldn't do it then either. I mean, you know, it had been, you know, all in the family was a showback that, you know, Archie Bunker was, the show dealt with race quite a bit. And then it had been like20 some years and no one, like, you don't joke about that stuff. Right. You don't joke aboutsexuality. You don't joke about, you know, sexual harassment. Like, there are all these thingsyou can't touch and the office did. And just thankfully people gave it a chance. And now obviouslyit's, it's as big as ever. Well, with the comedy boundaries,and I'm glad you brought it up because I think I think what makes the office okay and good is that you're not you're not celebrating the idiocy if that's the word of Michael Scott you're like this guy is not who you want to be everyone's uncomfortable like I constantly think about Michael Scott as a boss now and I'm like very I'm very I'm very aware I'm cognizant of the fact that like you can come across as an actual pig or an idiot and you can be totallyYou can be totally unaware of it.
01:28:41And so, like, I think, I think, you know, like, I come at it from the other, the other angles.Like, no, this stuff's good.And comedy's comedy.Like, I still think there's room to push the boundaries.And so, you know, I'm not looking for retort there.But I just do, I think when I look at it from that standpoint, it's actually a cautionary tale that we can enjoy watching at the same time.It's like everything you're not supposed to do.Well, I don't know if you're researched or you're just real small.
01:29:09Mart. But that, I mean, what you've just said is what I have said for a long time, which is not aresearch guy. Because people ask all the time, like, could the show happen today? Could, you know,and there have been some, some other actors who I think have been, uh, quoted not entirelyaccurately in terms of saying the show couldn't be done today or blah, blah, blah. But yeah,what you just said is, is a version of what I always say, which is, look, you have someone who sayssomething that you quote unquote can't say you have someone who says something inappropriate ormisogynistic or slightly racist or uh whatever but but the show then shows 16 people's facestelling you you can't say that thing and so the idea that you can't say it is just really
01:30:03bizarre and confusing to me i don't i don't understand it's reinforced that's reinforcedAnd let me take one more big swing here.If we're looking at what makes the office great,I think what makes the office great is this fundamental relatability to the fact,and I don't know if it's disappointment or horror when you grow upand you realize that adults are just fucking children,and everybody's crazy.And no matter what job you work at, whether it's this one,
01:30:29these guys like lamenting things I do or me going home and complaining about making it to my wife or whatever.Huh?No, I didn't have to that in two days.So it was a real estate deal.He's a real estate agent on the side.Not on the side, in the front.Damn good one.So, I mean, like, I just feel like it's the relatability of like, holy shit, this is
01:30:51adulthood.This is a workplace.Like, I imagine so much more and finding some humor in it.You know, I think that's what makes it incredibly relatable to people.Because when you read the plot of the show, which I want to.back to do to jog my memory.There are some unremarkable thingsin that plot where you're just like, how are they
01:31:13going to make this entertaining? It's theguys and the gals doing the show,hitting it out of the park. It's the ingenuityof the production of the show, but it's also therelatability. What makes the officeto you great? That's what me,the consumer, says, what are yousaying? Well, I mean,
01:31:29I think in a lot of ways, again,and I hate to say this, you kind of hit the nailon the head. I thinkthere's two other things that I would say. Oneis, you know, around the time ofDiversity Day when I was sitting there going like,God, if people just gave this a chance,there was a,
01:31:44there was afactoid, which I don't remember the numbers,but you'll get,you'll get my point.Which is there are,that we would talk about on set,like can we,can we hit enough people?
01:31:58Yeah.And the information was something like,there are 200 million peoplein America who work in offices.So if 10%If 5% of those peopleFind it relatable to themWe'll be a hit
01:32:17Like we'll stay on the air for a whileAnd that was what we talked aboutWhat we didn't talk aboutWhich is I think now why the show is what it isIs that the situation of a group of peopleManaged by an unreasonable bossWho put themselves in situationsgiven their archetypes,
01:32:39that that situation is not really about workplace.It's also really about school.And you have an unreasonable teacherwho makes you do unreasonable things,gives you unreasonable assignments,behaves kind of weird,and you're with a group of people in a roomthat you're stuck with that you don't choose
01:32:59to be with those people as well.And so that sort of universalityand relatability to that,I think is why,which we were not, that was, that was unintentional.Yeah.But I think that, that's why the show like went crazy again and why, you know, people are like my 12 year old, my 13 year old, my 16 year old, like all the time are watching it.From people who watched it, you know, when it was on, you know, they are now having kids who are watching it.
01:33:27to meumthe sort of the the astronomical rise of the show is um due to um i had a whole podcast based on this and this was a discoverythat i made but the very last line of the show that was written by gregg daniels who wasthe creator he wrote the last episode of the show and pam is clearly asked the question lastline of the show. To ask the question, you know, why would people want to make a documentaryabout people who work at a paper company? And she says, there's beauty and ordinary things.Isn't that kind of the point? And so I think that what Greg did and what the creators did,
01:34:19not the actors, the actors did their part and the other writers or whatever, but that it's funnythat there's, you know, crazy situationsthat there are people who behave inappropriatelyand get judged for that or whatever.But ultimately, when you watch the show,when you watch three or four episodes in a rowand you sort of put the sum total together,it's a celebration of ordinary people like me
01:34:47who are not the cover of Cosmo.We don't live at,we don't go to Central Perk coffee shop in New Yorkand live in an astronomically large apartment.We're ordinary people who are in Scranton, Pennsylvania,and sometimes we win one.And that's really fun and cool.And I think that spirit is what makes people watch it,
01:35:11when they say it brings them comfort,when they say they watch it before bedbecause they enjoy that feeling.I think that celebration of ordinary peoplewith small victories is what the show is about.That's so well put.Yeah.And Parting thought you made me think about my dad.
01:35:31We used to watch so much and say that's what she said so much as teenage and like college boys that when we come home for a dinner, my dad was tired of it.He was tired of that that's what she said.And so we had to devise a code word for that's what she said at the table and it was bagel.So for years.Now dad's in on the joke.and my dad will even offer up a bagel every once in a while,and I'll see the twinkle in his eye.Even he gets the office fundamentally.
01:36:02And I think it's just amazing what you guys did.But you've got to check out Brian's podcast,which of course is off the beat.I was on it a little while ago, a couple weeks back.It feels like a long time ago.It was before the Super Bowl.We hope to get Brian to Charlottesville for an SMU game.We hope to see him in an SEC game somewhere.
01:36:21But whatever you do, join us again.Okay.This has been a lot of fun, dude.Absolutely.I really appreciate both the research and the non-research that happens on Greenlight.And I will be, yes, of course I'll come back.We'll talk some football and there's more things that we can talk about.Let's do it.
01:36:45Saturday, November 3rd, 2024.SMU at Virginia.That's the bowl of the venue.November 3rd.23rd.The Saturday before Thanksgiving.Oh, the Saturday, right before my birthday.Oh.
01:36:58That's the, I'll sue you bowl.That's the, do you know what my dad does for a living bowl?Chris will put you up in the guest house.Yeah, I got a nice guest house for you, buddy.Really?Yeah, yeah.It's a package trip, dude.Here's the thing.
01:37:14Can I have the main house and you sleep in the guest house?Hey, no problem, because I love sleeping in the guest house, dude.I actually built an office that's not attached to the house.I consider it my house.I think I spend more time in there than I can do in my house.My kids want to see me?They got to come up to the office.So you get to lay the land, whatever you want, buddy.
01:37:32But appreciate the time.Thanks, guys.Now we're going to talk about measurables and stat lineswhen it comes to interior defensive linemen.Well, less so the measurables and stat lines.This week, the scouting combine comes up.I guess I'll ask you first because you've been looking at all these guys.Bo, who's a guy that you cannot wait to see test?
01:37:55Oh, well, dude, I'm kind of obsessed with Byron Murphy right now.I think he's going to test.Let's just get that out of the way.Yeah, I mean, I didn't want to, like, hit him first off.So that's, I fucking think he is so twitchy, so explosive.He's really strong.I think he's going to test really well.One guy that I watched a lot of tape of who's taped didn't necessarily shine for me at times,
01:38:16but I think he's going to test really, really well.As Miami-D-tackle Leonard Taylor, the third.I'm very curious to see how he does at the combine, because I think kind of,disappears at times on tape but i think his measurable will be really good he looks like he has verylong arms chris and we like that well we know how important that is and just as like a table setterlike we're going to talk about byron murphy i'll get it out of the way as well like i love this guy likewe we watched all these guys and we were joking about now although you've watched multiplegames in a row of each guy i can watch a guy for three minutes and i'm not saying i'm sure but
01:38:52you have a pretty good idea of whether you're going to like him or notnot and Byron Murphy was like the third or fourth guy that I watched and I was like oh these otherguys are in the same league like this guy is he's everything the other guys are from a point of attackstandpoint I saw him anchoring double teams like he was 340 like he was butter king out therebut he's also got the athleticism so let's set the table here we both agree that Byron's probablythe best guy but who else did you watch well I just want to comment on Byron Murphy really quickI mean, not to get too far into the weeds with some of this technique talk, Chris,but the ability that he has to generate power and, like,
01:39:32kind of, like, explosiveness out of a two-gapping stance is so impressed to me.Like, he can penetrate out of a two-gap stance unbelievably well.And that, you know, we talk about, like, ankle flexibility,d-luxion a lot as D-Limon, but, like, he can gain so much ground out of a two-gap stance,like a wide, wide base.Yeah.And that's something I love to see from him.Like he can split double teams in the pastures game like fucking Aaron Donald.
01:39:56He's really violent with his hands.He's got a really nice rip.His counter moves are good too.Like I think he's a very, very pure player.Great athlete.And, you know, Texas, you know, they recognize that down at Austin because they had him, like,playing goal on and shit like that too, which was fun to watch.But you know what you're saying?
01:40:12Like sometimes when you're watching tape, it can be a grind.This dude, I enjoyed watching all of his reps because he plays really hard, too.Like, I really like him as a player.So he's one that I'm like, like, really.really excited to see. I think a lot of teams are very high. Six foot one, which is not a concern forme. In fact, I think that's a good thing. Yeah. You know, I don't know why even, we even look atheight for defensive tackles because it's all about arm length for any defensive linemen.I like, like taller players, I'd stay away from unless they have the length and the stride length
01:40:40at edge. You know, at three technique and inside, yes, stride length is good, but it's all aboutleverage. And I just think, like, I watched him anchor on a double. I think it was just rice.but this guy the angles where he finds strength are so much different the compromised body positionswhere he can anchor the flexibility it's just way different and like I said earlier like I watchedthe Jerzan Newton guy first and you know he's he's a hype guy uh what does he bring to the tablethis Byron Murphy kid doesn't and he's he's more of your your run stopping kind of dude this guycan stop the run. He's got active feet. That's one of the first thing that jumped out of me,Bo, was how quick and active his feet were transitioning from play action. Yeah, I actually agree
01:41:29with you a lot, Chris. I want to give Illinois coaching staff a quick shout-out because that's BrettBielma, who I had at Wisconsin. And then the de-coordinator for Illinois is Aaron Henry, who Iplayed with at Wisconsin. So I want to give him a little bit of love. But no, Gerzon Newton.So I watched the game today, actually, of him playing the Badgers. And he got ejected.at the end of that game because he murdered our quarterback.And it was like a target call.Murder will get you tossed.Murder will get you tossed.
01:41:58Figuratively murdered him on the tape.But he had a really explosive sack.I like Jerzan Newton a lot.So the difference between Jerzon Newton.That reminds me of we had this equipment manager, Jimmy Lake,who's like one of my best buddies and his kids came up through the ranks with the Ramsand there were towel and ball boys.And after the game, they were like small.
01:42:22And they'd always come up to me after the game.And I'd be sitting there, like, naked at my locker.And they'd be like, nice sack.You know, like, good play.And it was like an inside joke with me and Jimmy that's like,but yeah, an explosive sack.Tell us more about that.Nice sack, Chris.
01:42:40I've been say that for years.It just means a lot more coming from a kid, you know,because it's pure.Oh, yeah, just on Newton.So I think he's, the way they ask him to kind of do run stunts and blitz in Illinois is a lot more like laterally than what, you know, you usually want to penetrate more in the NFL level.So I think, I don't think he's going to struggle with that at all because he is very explosive.He's got really good up the field burst.I think he's going to end up being a really good, you know, like a one gap penetrating defensive lineman like in a Jim Schwartz scheme, like what we played in Philly and what he's running for the Browns.
01:43:15But he's a very different player, in my opinion, then, Byron Murphy.Byron Murphy, in my opinion, is super versatile and can do it all.To me, Jerzan Newton is much better at, like I said, like gap penetrating,even though he wasn't asked to do that as much in college.Like I think that's where his skill set is going to translate very well.I think for me, like he's really good.He's got really good instinctive feel in the pass rush game, which I like.Like his counters are good and his hands are very violent.
01:43:45And that's kind of what makes him a really fun player to watch.He's got really good instinctive feel for like, you know,when O-Lyman get top-heavy when you can counter and things like that.So I think he's a player, again, that's going to test really well at the combine, too.He's a pro.I mean, you can tell he's a pro.I can see him starting any number of places and being really good on first and second down,out of the gate.
01:44:07You know, but some of these guys stand out a little bit more.Can I, you know, can I, try to fit in with Jerzan?Jerzan has four brothers, Jirvon, Jirwan, and Jershan.That's really good.Which I think is top half of the first round.Yeah, I think I think so.You know what we call that in the scouting world making?What's that?
01:44:27Intangibles.Intangible.That's exactly right.And Jersan is currently mocked 13th to the Las Vegas Raiders.Byron Murphy, 27th to their zone.A cardinal.Bro, that's crazy.Yeah.
01:44:40Yeah.If you, I mean, like, listen, these things were always wrong about this stuff.So this is a very preliminary look at these guys.we could change our minds before April.And the mock drafters will too.And the mock drafters will too.But Byron Murphy should be picked ahead by some distance of all these guys.I agree.
01:45:00But where I'd like to see Jerzon Newton is, like I said, Jim Schwartz defense in Cleveland,Shelby Harris and Moherst contracts are up.And I think that that's a perfect scheme fit for him.And one thing I want to point out about him is this motherfucker played like,I'm watching this tape.He played upwards of 70 snaps in certain games.Like he's kind of a workhorse, man.Like he played a lot of reps at a very high level in Illinois.
01:45:21And like I like to see that.Like in, you know, Byron Murphy in Texas, like they have two detackles.Obviously, the other one, sweat is a very different player than Murphy.And we can talk about him in a moment.But those dudes aren't playing 70 snaps a game because they're not asked to do that.They're playing like, you know, 30 to 40 snaps a game.Well, that's sweat guy.He can't play 40 snaps a game.
01:45:39But like, but the sweat guy, I cannot wait to see test.I mean, I threw on his highlights and I was like, holy shit.Now I've watched him and Stanford Steve has been.obsessing over these guys for forever but you know to watch him get in a stance you can really tellhow much space he he takes up and he's not um a bump on a log like this motherfucker can move a littlebit and he can move bodies he's going to find himself a really nice role early on because he isdifferentiating that size is differentiating there aren't a lot of guys like that he's six four threesixty five man he's built like vita who i played with in tampa and i mean i was very i'm
01:46:17I'm always very curious to watch these big noseguards, you know, and don't get me wrong.Like, Devonre Sweat from Texas is incredibly productive.He had, you know, 45 tackles, eight TFLs, two sacks, and four passes defendant, and afucking receiving touchdown for Texas.But I'm always curious to watch these big-ass noseguards against teams like Alabama, you know what I mean?Because those are like pro-style offense with big mauling offensive linemen.And I'll be honest, like I wasn't as impressed with Sweat's tape against Alabama.as I was with his gameplay against Washington in the Sugar Bowl.
01:46:53Like he played really, really well in that game.So I think he's just a little bit accustomed to beating up on smaller offensive linemenin like zone running schemes, whereas like when he,because he can just abuse them with his strength with his size and his power.And so I'm concerned that he might struggle at times against, you know,larger offensive linemen in the NFL that kind of are more accustomed to seeing players of hissize and caliber.I'm interested to see how that unfolds.
01:47:18But I see him as like a really, really good, you know, first and second down noseguard,two-gapper, you know, a team like the Broncos, the Titans or the Cardinals,who kind of run a lot of odd scheme and need like big bodies up front.Like I think he'd pay really well with Jeffrey Simmons, kind of, you know, get him in some,you know, some more single blocks and things like that.I mean, but sweat is a big body and he's a low to handle in the middle of that.There's a guy, I think, that would play really well in a two-gap scheme.scheme and as an end and has some versatility, and you might even know who I'm going to say,
01:47:51but Chris Jenkins, he's got a really pro-ready body. He plays with his hands. He seems like a guywho can move up and down the line. His measurables are more of a, you know, a tweener between a,you know, a three technique and a three-four end. But, you know, guys that can still do that two-gappingstuff are valuable. Yep, from Michigan. Yeah, the Michigan kid. Hey, how about terminology? Back in my day,it was defensive ends and defensive tackles.And now we're edge and ideal.And interior defensive lineman.Do you all think that that's a good evolution?
01:48:26Ah, if I may.Tomato, man.Tomato tomato, because it's up to these scouts to apply their sensibilitiesto whatever schemes they run.Because I know one of Bo's favorite defensive tacklesis defensive end, Darius Robinson out of Missouri.I know, I know.I know.
01:48:45This is a little bit of a fast.forward to our edge day, but this guy was interesting to look at it. Yeah, so I like DariusRobinson a lot. He's exactly what you're talking about making. You know, it's a matter of semantics.So he played a lot on the edge for Missouri, but I actually see him projecting really well as athree technique. He's really long. Like he's six, he's six five, two ninety six, but he's got a bigenough frame where like you could put 15 to 20 pounds on him and have him like play three technique.He's got a lot of experience actually playing like four technique and four eye.I watched him against the,
01:49:22against Tennessee.And they kind of,the Missouri defense played a lot of like bear looks.And he was playing four eye.And he actually like really,I like his hands a lot.Like he's got pretty good hands in the run game.But the reason I like him like off the edge,
01:49:38he's pretty violent, man.Like he was fucking up guards coming back across in Gap scheme or else like,you know,when teams run split zone where they bring.the tight end back on the end like he was murdering tight ends in some of the other games I watchmurdering them figuratively making yes got but I think the thing that's attractive about dariusrobinson is like he fits in well for four three gap penetrating schemes and also he has a lot oftwo gaping experience as well like I could see him being like a derrick wolf type player um you know
01:50:09you know when Derek was in uh Baltimore but he's so he's got a lot of versatility I think teams canfind attractive and like dude he's a good athlete man like he he's got a lot of power he does kind of likeyou know the old like bowl to like inside counter uh carlos done lap yes no i'm not saying he's carlosdone lap because carlos is pure edge right a little bit i mean he's just not as you know likeathletically he's not a twitchy three like i feel like you got to have a certain amount of twitch andfoot mobility to play inside where things are happening faster.This guy's kind of in between.I think his feet are a little slower.
01:50:50Like I don't think he's like a pick him up, put him down guy.I think he's a little bit stiff in the bottom half.But I will say the same things that jumped off to you jumped out to me pretty quickly.And looking at the guy in pads.Like this guy is winning the fucking eye test.Get him off the boss first, baby.Yeah, he carries that.that 286 really well.
01:51:15No, I mean, I like him a lot as a player.I'm very interested to see where, you know,if NFL scouts have him projected as more of an, you know,an edge guy or an IDL guy making.Like, I think, I think, honestly,I think he could do both.And that's an attractive quality to have.To have experience playing inside and outside at a high level is a good thing coming
01:51:36out of college.There's a guy I'm wondering if you guys know much about the Michael Hall kid fromOhio State, number 15.I actually think, and when you talk to some people in the Big Ten, they like him better thanthan maybe Drizan Newton, depending on who you talk to, like Michael Hall, a little bitundersized to play zero and one, but that's where they had him.Probably more of a three technique.He's really young, which I think is a good thing.
01:52:00Do you think, like being a younger guy getting drafted, like, you get drafted at 23, like,I get drafted at, like, that's one thing.But when you get drafted at 20, 21 years old, I feel like that's a really high.ceiling proposition for a team.You never know how much this guy's going to develop.Look at Fletcher Cox, man.How old was he?I think Fletch got drafted me as 20 or 21.
01:52:21I remember being in like my rookie or second year and being like,what the fuck this dude is like nine months older than me?What is going on?He's in his fifth year.I actually, I think that that bodes well, Chris,because those guys are young.They've got more shelf life.They're a little more raw.
01:52:36You know, you can kind of mold them as a D-line coach into whatever you want.I got to watch some more tape on Michael Hall, though, because he's definitely an intriguing prospect.He's intriguing. He's definitely a gap penetrator.Yep.Probably three technique, and somebody who can get skinny a little bit, and he's got good lateral quickness, but he's got to work on his hands, I think.Fletch was 21.Yeah, so, you know, being young, I mean, I think Robert Quinn was pretty young when he was drafted as well.Like, there's just a whole host of guys that you see that happen with that.
01:53:07You're like, man, youth is a real thing because.Because if you're talking about somebody's career and you're going to sign this guy to a second contract and the whole thing, like, you don't realize how close that ledges sometimes in your late 20s.And, you know, if you can nab this guy to a second contract at 24, it's like, all right, you know, that helps.Who else did you look at?So speaking of young players, Chris, I mentioned him earlier.This is a projected day one guy.I think I'm not sure if that's going to happen or not, honestly.to ask around the league for that.
01:53:42But I mentioned him earlier.Leonard Taylor, the third from Miami.I think he's pretty raw, honestly.I think he'll test really, really well.But between us, like he doesn't, he's inconsistent on tape at times.Between us and everybody listening.Between us.No, this is just the three of us having a very in-depth conversation about defensive linemen.
01:54:01So I watched his game versus Clemson.It's weird, man.Like, he's very athletic, but he's got like, he kind of like gets off late at times.like has those low hands some you know what I mean um where like he doesn't really protect his chestvery well and sometimes it feels like he's just sorting through you know different blocking schemesfrom the offensive line I think to me that's a testament to like just as some of his like youth andinexperience um so I think he's more of a project I see him as um you know definitely a one gapuh D lineman I think he's a project as a two gapper but he has that kind of ability like he's
01:54:38got long arms and he's very violent with his hands at times. He needs to be a lot more consistentwith his hands to like, you know, keep alignment off of him in both the pass rush and, you know,in the run game. But I think he's a pretty intriguing prospect, man. I'm curious to see whatteams think of him. I don't know. I think he'll be like round, I don't know, like three to five,maybe unless he tests through the roof. It's interesting. Well, now, just between the three of us,I don't think anybody cares about guys who are going to get drafted that late.We can save that talk for later.Well, the mock I just quoted was two days old from PFF.
01:55:14Daniel Jeremiah, our good bud, did a mock six days ago.He has only one IDL being drafted in the first round,and that is Byron Murphy's 16th to Seattle.That feels good.That feels good.I feel like we know what we're looking at then,because DJ is pretty solid on this stuff.Okay, so we're going to do a position group a week every Monday.
01:55:36Can I give you the top three names from the IDL group?Yeah.Three, Tavondre Sweat.Two, Mackay Wingo.One, Rook, O Roh, Roh, Roh.Oh, that's a really good name.When he tells people how to say his name, say Roh, Roh, Roh, Your Boat.Oh, that's good, man.
01:55:53Look out for him.Yeah, that's intangibles.Guys, this is my favorite part of our Monday Boat spot, which is where I give you guyshomework on one college football topic every week, the homework this week that was passedout was pitch a2024 road tripfor the gentleman in this roomand maybe some of the gentlemen not in this room
01:56:14the green light team where should wego on the college footballmap and when in2024 all right boys we callthis a taste of the AmericanMidwestyou know put yourself forward in timea little bit to September
01:56:307th we're going to flyinto beautifulIowa City Iowa we're going to checkout Iowa, Iowa State at Iowa, okay? You know, high-powered offense expected to be down there inIowa City with an offensive coordinator change. We're going to enjoy this. It's a pretty big rivalry,you know, between Iowa State and Iowa. We're going to wave to the children in the Children'sHospital. That's right. The rest of the Hawkeyes. It's a pretty great tradition, honestly.And that's after the first quarter.
01:57:05We're going to wave for them.We're going to enjoy this rivalry game.We're going to, you know, I like Kinnick Stadium.I played there a bunch of different times.It's a really good time.After that, game, we are going to jaunt on up north on 35 to beautiful Minneapolis.You know, just about four and a half hour car ride.We'll let make and run the ox.
01:57:23I think that'll be fun for us.And we're going to purify ourselves.And you don't know what running the ox means.Did you hear me?Or did you read my lips?I read your lips, brother.Does that mean I'm driving?No, you're on the, you're on the, on the, on the, on the two.
01:57:40Oh, the ox.Have you been outside?A-U-S-U-S.The oxford.Yeah.More of a Bluetooth guy these days, but yeah.All right.Yeah.
01:57:46It's just a figure of speech.Yeah.What was I thinking of?When you say dial me up, you don't get a rotary phone.Nause.Is Nause a thing?Like nitrous oxygen?Okay.
01:57:57We can get some gnaz for the, you want to hit some whippets in the car right up?Going all the way to Minneapolis.Chris is trying to curb that Zen, you know, craving.We can just hit some whippets instead.Anyway, we're going to go on up to Minneapolis.We're going to enjoy some beautiful home cooking for my lovely mother, big time listener of this podcast.We're just going to hang around Minneapolis for a couple days.It'll be awesome.
01:58:21I'll show you guys this house on building, a lot of great lakes.We can do some stand-up paddleboarding.Get out there underwater.Lakes and possibly a house that you're remodeling.you guys aren't invited to the home.Bo,did you know my license plate is literally Minneapolis?No,
01:58:39I did not know that.Yeah,yeah,because we won the national championship.Did you just docks yourself?Well,there's some numbers too,but it's all right.
01:58:46I got a real thing.I'm not quite done,Chris.Oh, God.I'm not quite done.What else are we going to do in Minneapolis?Go to the Prince Museum?Uh,
01:58:53we can.But on Friday,which will be the 13th of September,we're going to get in a car,we'll give Chris theox this timeand we're going to drive straighteast to lovely MadisonWisconsin. We'll get there just in time to
01:59:08enjoy a beer and some live music at the MemorialTerrace. OverlookingLake Mendota. It'll be awesome.Oh, also I made us a dinner resthat night at tornado room downtownat Madison.Well, we'll have a couple old fashionsand go over to the
01:59:24college club, the KK as it's affectionatelyreferred to, which is kind of the athlete bar.It's very grubby.and then finish off that night with some Ian's pizza at like 2 a.m.Wake up 10 a.m. Saturday morning, Saturday the 14th, okay, and start getting some bloodymarries because Alabama is going to play Wisconsin at Camp Randall Stadium.Oh, now I'm in.Oh, now I'm in.
01:59:53To be with my people for a day, you know.Right? Come on now.I am.To be with our people?There are people.So that's my pitch.All right, we got lakes.Okay.
02:00:05We got a lot of driving.Save it.And then we'll say which pitch we like at the end.Bo, I appreciate the Iowa.Oh,your motion has been,I don't know.Tabled.
02:00:14Tabled.Tabling your motion.Okay, I got one.I'll start with my best trip.Neeland Stadium boat trip.Okay.Knoxville, Tennessee,five hours, 14 minutes from Charlottesville.
02:00:27I've always wanted to go to Neeland.I want to join the Vol Navy.Okay?There's nothing that I've ever wanted to join more than the Vault Navy, man.Boats, rivers, outside of football stadium, tailgating.Are you fucking kidding me?The color orange, like, just everything about it seems awesome to me.I don't know when you sign up or, like, who I have to write to, like, be enlisted in the
02:00:49Volnavian Navy, but I would like to enlist this all in the Volnavian for a day.Tailgate on the Tennessee River I have written here, and in parentheses, and maybe neverenter the game.So like we don't even need to go to the game.I just want to get on one of those boats.But if we do go to the game, there's a few games that we could look at.Possible dates. Saturday, October 12th, U.F.You got it.
02:01:11You figure that's a night game.Yeah.So that's the trip.Because if that's a night game, it's still hot.We could be on the boats at 6 a.m.I'll get a fucking houseboat.We can sleep there the night before.But if we don't sleep on the boat the night before or if we want to go out after the game,
02:01:27we need to go to Token.It is a black-lit bar where you can play video games and get buzzed.You can play pinball, all types of retro games while you drink.They have really cool cocktails, and it's totally trippy in there.And then on top of that, I'll tell you about a little place called Bernadette's Crystal Garden.Okay?It's 45,000 pounds of crystals.You've got an amethyst lounge.
02:01:53You have a quartz room.You have a rooftop gemstone garden.a great place to enjoy the edibles of this earth.And also another place that will go that will remind me that Charlottesville is so far behind.I mean, like, we don't have any of this stuff here.So I can't wait to go to Knoxville, September 12th for UF.I didn't even look to see if the Titans play the next day,but the Titans could play the next day.
02:02:21You know what I mean? We go to Titans game.You had me at Gem Rooftop, Chris.Gemstone Rooftop?You got the stars twinkling above.You got the gems twinkling around you.Come on.Yeah, dude.The healing powers of that place.
02:02:33Yeah.Incredible.I had a foursome of stadiums I'd like to hit that I have not.Hit them.Camp Randall.Okay.Death Valley at LSU.Okay.
02:02:44Folsom Field.That's on my list, too.We got to go to Colorado.In Neeland Stadium.Now, October 12th, you got it.Florida, Tennessee.Also October 12th, K-state at Colorado.So if the two games are not at the same time,
02:02:57I know you really want to probably hunker down and enjoy your volunteer.No, but I also have Saturday, August 31st,where it's going to be hot as all get out,as we say in the Volnavay.And we're going to be playing Chattanooga.But the problem with that is probably going to be a noon game.So not as much tailgate.Maybe we just don't go into the game or Kent State,
02:03:18September 14th night game preferable once again.But it's like I wanted to be hot there.and they say that in Colorado, in Boulder, the best month is October.I want it to be hot in Oxford, Mississippi,and I want Ole Miss's season to still be on track.So they have a landmine at LSU.I'm going to go September game.Old Miss hosting Kentucky.
02:03:41Kentucky football has kind of always bothered me, you know,just round peg in a square hole.But Ole Miss hosting Kentucky, mostly for the Grove than anything else.And Ole Miss is hosting Oklahoma and Georgia,That's late in the season.I want them to be unbeaten.I want it to be hot.I want, you know.
02:03:57Yeah, I want to get the full grove experience.I want sweaty balls at the grove.September.Yeah.I got one.Okay.September 7th, we could fly up to Michigan to the big house, see them take on Texas.Yeah.
02:04:10Huge game.And then since we'll have Kevin with us, we can drive down to Chicago, catch the Cubsversus the Yankees, then head to St. Louis, catch the Cardinals versus the Reds.We can go hang out at the hill, play a little boche, see some.of your previous stomping grounds.Do you mean Bachi?They call it Oce.And then head to Kansas City
02:04:30for some barbecue, some museums,and then keep going.Colorado Springs,get some hiking in,get to meet our dudeHidei Tora Hanata,sumo wrestler turned D-tackleas they take on Colorado
02:04:42on the 14th.This is 20 hours of driving.That's really well thought out.The two baseball gamesseem pretty terrible.No,they sound fine.to me. No, you're wrong.
02:04:56Yeah, you're wrong. That'd be fantastic.See, the Yankees at Wrigley Field.I hate Wrigley, but I respect the...You hate Wrigley?Oh, yeah. It's terrible.You don't hate Wrigley. Riggly's delightful.I like the game.Uh-huh.
02:05:10I don't like...That it's there.Yeah. The Cubs don't deserve that field.You think the White Sox deserve that field?Nobody. White So, white socks, don't deserve anything.So you like the field?I love the field. I don't like the...you're just a south sider yeah okay
02:05:27so i got a little song i got a nice okay we fly in inVegas yeah oh no no no no no no hey hey I know it's too soonwe hit up the LSU USC game September 1st Iokay I'm listening okay but here this is where it changeswe're gonna kill two birds with one stone we're gonna train hopgo to the Michigan, Texas game.Okay. Holy shit. As soon asthe Michigan, Texas game
02:06:00is over, we're on our own.You got to get back. It's the way you need to get back.So you can't take a flight. You could take a train.You can't rent a car. And you've got to leave your phone.No phones. No phones. No phones.And whoever gets back to Charlottesville first?Yeah. Oh, that's pretty good. I always think an amazing race type situation I win.That's where I think. Rather go to the baseball games.
02:06:24Well, I think it's a great idea.And I love the train.You had me at train hopping.You know that's something I want to do.So from Vegas to Ann Arbor, you got to get there.Have you looked at the CSX to see if we can get there?I haven't.I came up with that while I was sitting.
02:06:37I got another one.And we can train hop here.It was, go ahead.Montana, the Grizzlies, man.You know I got a homestead up there.We could stay at the lake.We could, we, okay.That'd be odd.
02:06:48Grizzly Stadium, 3190,000 above sea level largest on campus stadium in FCS thatparticipates for the playoffs.I think Yale has 61K, but they don't participate in the playoffs.This is 26-4-72 is what they got for the North Dakota State opener in 2015.So it's a good crowd, and the Grizz are...Hold on, hold on.Yale has a stadium for 60,000 people.They don't feel that.
02:07:13No, they don't.The Grizz are 233 and 35 at home since the stadium was built.That's a pretty fucking deal.I'd like to see what's what the magic sauce is.They're undefeated at home in 12 of their seasons.The rivals are Montana State.They hail from Bozeman and Idaho.They play for that little Brownstein every other year.
02:07:33The stadium's gorgeous.It's right off the Clark Fork River, which, of course, that's where I took Bo Allen fly fishing.Ryan Rosillo has also fly fished on the Clark Fork.And if we look at the October 12th homecoming game against NAU, which is Northern Arizona,we can enjoy attempts of 58 as highs on an average that time of year and sit on the east side of the stadium,which gets most of the sun.But you wouldn't be able to see Mount Sentinel on the east side, so maybe pack some warm clothes,and we can see the big M up in the mountains.
02:08:06We got hit Stockmans.That's the first bar I ever went to in my entire life in Missoula.I was 18.I went to this bar called Stockmans.I also went to a strip club that night called Mulan Rouge,where my friend fell in love with a stripper named Felony.I don't think she works there anymore.I think the place is out of business,
02:08:22but we can see what's what they're doing in that building now.Stockman's actually lays sod for a couple weeks of the year, inside the bar.So you just walk around in the grass.So maybe we could time that up.You touch some grass, Chris.You touch some grass.Grass is legal in Montana.So I think we just need to get up to a UM game.
02:08:43That's my pitch.I think that'd be delightful.This was a very interesting exercise in the age of,conference expansion.I think there are a couple really silly games.For instance, Southern Californiagoing to College Park, Maryland makes me laughevery time I look at it.
02:08:59And Stanford will be travelingto Syracuse to face the...That's the second stupidish shit ever.This season.Can I pitch?Can I pitch?I got one more pitch.Yeah, yeah.
02:09:10And then we'll vote.No, I just is a short pitch.We had Steve Belichick on last week.I was going to say, Michigan at Washington,October 5th.How about...Oh, whoa.Well, I pray.
02:09:19A rematch.Here's what I pray, that the bills go to Seattle, October 6th, because we don't know when,but the bills are going to Seattle.I would love to center a trip around us going to Seattle for a bills game, do the show from Seattlefrom some fucking coffee shopper, the live show in the fish market, right?And we got to dodge, like, Hallibut and break down the games the day before.If it times up, we can go see Steve at U.S.Halibut is a classy fish, Chris.
02:09:49Yes, it is.It's like $34 a pound.LSU.You once said that on Iron Chef or what we think we were on?With Gordon Ramsey.No, it's Hell's Kitchen.Hell's Kitchen.Wow.
02:10:02It's a little throwback joke for the boys.That actually made the show.I was pretty tickled by that.LSU hosts, this is LSU hosting Alabama year, which is just to set it and forget it.Yeah, we got to go.Yep.Yep.So we're going to be going on Tescalo.
02:10:15All right.Make your pitch.last pitch and then we'll have guys close their eyes and hold up a one through five you kind of you kind of gotmy pitch man michigan at washington october 5th i was saying steve bellichick took that video he pannedhis camera right over to lake washington you love to see it man you got the cascad mountains to bayhey we got a geography major what's the difference between hey hey hey hey bow what's the differencebetween a bay and a sound can't hear a bay that was fucking dude that was coming you son of amade that shit up the other day, bro.
02:10:51He wrote that.All right, so here's the deal.It's a popsicle stick show.Everybody close their eyes and get ready to hold up fingers, one through five.All right, I'm going to start with...Can you vote for yourself?Yeah, but, yeah, of course.My eyes are already closed.
02:11:08Okay.Whatever Beau said the first time about going up to Wisconsin and Minnesota and, uh, and, uh, and,hold up a lot of driving.Okay.Out of five?We're voting out of five.Is anybody looking, though?Matt's not even holding up his fingers.
02:11:24Everybody said one.Hey, did you open your eyes?I'm the one who's got to orchestrate this.Because how would anybody know who's voting for what?Well, that's, yeah, I know.Okay.Fuck you guys.And then the second trip was kneeling boat trip.
02:11:41Okay.Just for Florida, right?For Florida.Getting some threes and fours here.Kevin's not holding up anything.is he's just meditating or sleeping.I thought we only hold up when we got a vote.This is a vote.
02:11:58It's one up to five.Five's the best.Oh.Keep your eyes closed.I didn't get.Do kneeling.My bad.Do kneeling.
02:12:04Close your eyes.Do you know.Okay.Interesting.Okay.The third trip that we talked about was Matt's trip, which was to go all over the country.Scale starts at one, yeah?Yep.
02:12:20Okay.Okay. He held up two for his own trip.All right. Aidan's young. He's got no family. He's got a three up because he canafford to leave for three weeks and ride up.All right. How about Kevin's trip where we have to make it back to Charlottesville without?I kind of like this one. I do too.Everybody's holding up a lot of fingers.I don't like neutral site non-con in just soulless places like Vegas.
02:12:47That's okay. This one might be a clubhouse leader right now.I mean, there's a lot.Even if we cut the Vegas trip out.I know.I know, Bo.I know.I was there.I get it.
02:12:58I was there.I get it.All right.So what's the last trip?I'm forgetting.Montana trip.Montana trip.All right.
02:13:04Close your eyes.Who are they playing, though?I never heard an opponent.Missouri State, the opener?Northern Arizona is probably okay.Can I get a date?October.Macon, Northern Arizona.
02:13:18Lumberjacks.Lumberjacks.Lumberjacks.So people are kind of keen on going to Montana.People are keen on going to Montana.People are keen on going to Michigan.And people are keen on going to Tennessee.That's what came out of this thing.
02:13:32I thought you wanted to go to Camp Randall.There's no one better to go with than your boy.I don't disagree.But how about Wisconsin hosting Penn State on October the 26th?I like conference games.If I want to go watch Alabama, I want to do it in the deep style.What about when they start going?Jump around and then you've got to jump and you break both your legs.
02:13:50No, no, no.I'll jump around.I jump.I jump.I jump in sporting events.He just snaps both his legs.No, we're going to balk them up.It'll be all right.
02:14:00Yeah, I'll be fine.Okay.Well, we're going to talk amongst ourselves, Beau,and maybe one of these trips will become a reality.But more than anything, thank you for your diligent work on college football.Yeah, a lot of tape to watch.It was fun watching these young D tackles, man.Got to tell you.
02:14:17Got to tell you.Well, I got to tell you.We're going to be back later in the week for the freak show with a whole gang of meatheads and weirdos.Talk about explosive sacks.You should honestly, can I do something here?I have a production text for the Thursday show where I said, hey, guys, bring ideas for what you want to talk about in the show.Can I read you some of the things that Kyle and Nate text?Is it cool for girls to Zen?
02:14:45Only for Swedish.Kyle said nobody has discussed these transit.Atlantic Airlines going 800 airspeed, but we'll be late by Thursday.I just love the professionalism on the tail end.Also, we talked about the Ayatollah and Antarctica.What are some other strange military outposts historically?Like, did the Chinese have any African outposts in the 19th or 18th century?That one comes from Maine or what?
02:15:10Run down right away.Okay.Hold on.This is a good one, too.I'd like to go watch Army Navy because I support the troops.Nate sent a photo of a transparent toilet.Yeah, Nate,Nate just sent a photo of a toilet that's transparent.
02:15:29No like discuss or anything like that could be talked about this coming Thursday.And then I got a graphic with the NBA's highest paid mascotsas well as leap year babies.When it isn't the leap year,do you celebrate on the 28th of February or the 1st of March.There's a fun segment there.Chris, I have one more topic.This came in yesterday.
02:15:57This is from Kyle.They're monuments that were never built for people.AI generated them,and he's wondering what our monuments would look like.That's actually not the worst one of the world.So this is just a preview of what you might find on the free show Thursday.Oh, this is my favorite one.today at 10 a.m. Kyle, hard at work, sent me a tweet that says,
02:16:20Olympus Mons, located on Mars is the second tallest mountain and largest volcano of any planetin the solar system. It's a shield volcano, and it roughly covers an area of 300,000kilometers squared. How are we going to talk about that, Kyle? I think we just did it.Basically, I'm in a group text with a bunch of old people who have Instagram. They're justsending me an Instagram post. This is not how you produce a show, guys. Hopefully there'smore by Thursday. Join us for the free show.Y'all take care.Take care.
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