Green Light with Chris Long - Cam Heyward! Walter Payton Man of the Year and the Pittsburgh Steelers. Chiefsaholic, Patriots Documentary, and Combine Talk.

Episode Date: March 1, 2024

Chris is joined by Macon, Kyle and Doctor Fax to say RIP to Richard Lewis, send out some thank you’s and apologies, analyze Chiefaholic’s legal representation, and share their thoughts on the Patriots Dynasty documentary. Cam Heyward of the Pittsburgh Steelers joins to talk about winning the Walter Payton Man of the Year award and the Pittsburgh Steelers’ season. Then the guys launch into some combine questions. 0:00 - Hello, Layup, Line, Housekeeping and the First Fifteen 32:45 - Combine Teaser 45:31 - The Patriots Dynasty Documentary 57:17 - Cam Heyward on Winning Walter Payton Man of the Year 1:33:48 - Combine Questions Want your Green Light Merch so you can look exactly like Chris and the fellas? Hit the website below and get kitted! https://stores.kotisdesign.com/yotehouse/products Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Make sure to check out Fax and the King every Wednesday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FaxAndTheKing Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Was it two years ago when Witt won? Yeah. And I was like, man, I'm not even in the same category as this dude. Like, this dude's amazing. Like, I didn't feel worthy of even being up there with him because I was just like, man, Witt is doing an amazing job. And then to see, you know, the fruits of his labor where another player was affected about it, I was just like, damn, that's special.

Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. It's a full house in Studio J with Chris, Kyle, Macon, and Dr. Fax. The guys pay their respects to. Richard Lewis and analyzed chiefaholics legal representation before chatting about the new Patriots dynasty documentary. Then Cam Hayward of the Pittsburgh Steelers joins fresh off of winning the Walter Payton Man of the Year award. And stick around for some fun combine questions. Enjoy. Luttrell Tennessee. Hello! Why? Home town a birthplace of Kenny Chesney. And well, fuck you a little bit. There you go.

I uh you all make fun but instead of there's a Kenny song we can sing i um i went to wainsborough yeah it's been about an hour plus in the car this morning and uh instead of trying to better myself via audio book or podcast i just put on kc a couple live albums and it it uh it renewed me i'm reinvigorated because of Kenny he's got a power that that no other man possesses and i'm grateful for him And shout out to Luttrell and East Tennessee. You know? That's an important distinction. East Tennessee.

East Tennessee. Important distinction. East and West Tennessee? Yeah, I guess. I guess just East Tennessee. Well, it's a very wide state. Hey, after you... Like being in northern or southern California.

Or Nova. Northern Virginia is just a sideways California. You're right, Chris. Do you recall... Minus the coastline? After the Patriots. It's Super Bowl. We're in a cab back to your team hotel.

And you put on back where I come from. That's a great song, by Kenny Chey. That's my rookie song, training camp. That's what I said, bro. That's a Kenny song I can get down with. That's a great Kenny song right there. Okay. Merle Haggard.

Merle Haggard. That's the layup line today is, what is the name of this song? This is a Merle song that I just got hooked on recently. It's been a great afternoon by Merle Haggard. head Hey didn't leave me in it too soon And I added this to layup line today because

Two reasons. Number one, I just started A Opening Day River playlist for the Green Light Pot Whenever we get on the river, I think it's probably 60 days away, you know, conservatively. I think early May we can get on the river. Depending on which river? Probably James River. That's what I consider the opening river down.

I mean, I can go down any old river and, you know, fuck around right now. Opening day for us. Yeah, where I'm just, you know, it's hot enough that I can, you know, hold onto my kayak and swim for a mile and, you know, just that kind of blissful feeling that we have. Kyle, you watch out for the branches. It's vicious out there, river.

Shout out for the brand. You got to watch the center of gravity. You got to beware of the body roll. Exactly, dude. But, well, I can't wait. It's like driving a tall car. Yeah. The wind gust will make you topple.

But yeah, no, that's going to be on our greenlight Spotify, playlist or whatever it is Greenlight Spotify and guys you can add whatever you want to the playlist everybody but making because I think he'll try to sabotage the playlist because he's not going to be there

grunge playlist that would be fun to fuck up somebody's playlist that they're listening to blindly on their favorite day of the year you will be listening blindly you're not going to check on it? I'm probably going to check okay yeah so anyways another reason is I can't wait to listen this Merle song in the Bahamas next week

I am you're going to the Bahamas I'm out of here bro No invite. No. It's kind of a... Did you get the invite to the Baham? There are family trips and there are nuclear family trips. The last time we went some more tropical Kyle,

I'm a nuclear guy. The house almost caught on fire and Kyle was flip it out. I'm a nuclear guy. Yes. You're a nuclear guy. Yeah. No question. We got to do a beach trips.

And that's not bad. No, it's not bad. Okay. So I can't wait to be in the Bahamas. And speaking of vacations, Reed is like at some sort of fucking Indian wedding or something. It takes like five days. I just realized Reed's not here.

I thought weddings were like a weekend and Reed. It's a whole week. Yeah. The Indians, they do it right. Yeah, they do. They really do. Bright colors, big parties, extravagant food. They can last a fortnight, Kyle.

I'm sure there's just a lot of everything going on. Yeah, exactly. I guess Reed's not in Mexico after all. He's at an Indian wedding because he's not back. He's suited for a marathon, though. Reed, we love you. Come back soon. Reed, be safe.

Yeah. Please be safe. If you get a role in a Bollywood film, take it. No, so I had... Perfect in a Bollywood film. You got to hear what Nate has to say that. I have a friend who was telling me about a group of friends that he has that just went to Tulum. One of the guys in the party got really, really drunk and was stumbling out of a club, got pushed into a van, taken somewhere tied up, had his kidney removed, stitched back up.

and then dropped off on the street. What was wrong with his kidney? They had to take it out. With the Tulum, two kidneys came back with one. The thing about being a kidney dealer is like, there's inventory everywhere. But my thing,

there really is. Just walking this street. I was everywhere. Honestly, I was thinking, I was thinking, how much does, what a kidney you think,

like, be worth on the money? 30,000? Oh, it's a Kia, at least. You think so? Yeah.

Because they're like, they said it was like at least like four or five people. It's a Sorrento, for sure. Like, if you're splitting that. You've got two Sorrentos in the garage down there, buddy. As little as $1,300 to as much as $150,000. Depending on what your history is. Mormon kidneys, they go for a lot.

Probably a baby. Tell me it's not like veal. It's not a veal situation. Inuit kidneys, a lot of fish, good healthy fats. Reports estimate. A lot of CO-10. It's good. Hey.

The Nordic guys. Wild caught. The Nordic guys are flying off the shelf, dude. 75% of all illegal organ trading involves kidneys. Yeah, dude. What? Yeah. We got to put it into this.

Yeah. Are you kidding me? Yeah, we got to stop this right now. Like that. How do we stop this? All right. We take our kidneys out preemptively. Jokes on you, motherfucker.

I get in the van. I got no kidneys. I'm on dialysis. They didn't even catch you. You know, you're trying to cram me in the fuck. in the Econa line van but my dialysis machine is getting caught do you know who could figure this out who the youths at a science technology engineering and math school yep and this is this is the point in the podcast where i apologize and for some people at the b-e s t academy in alana it's not going to be

enough listen admittedly the other day i got a little worked up over cam newton getting jumped at a fucking cam is a good man yeah no and and and listen That was a good rant. Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate it, but I get uncomfortable when something like that blows up. I really do. Like I put the social out thinking like, oh, maybe like a couple retweets here.

And then it spoke to people. Like everybody else is fed up with you sports is what I found out. Fuck those kids. Whether it's a baseball dad who's fucking the whole thing up or these guys down there at B-E-S-T Academy lumping that great brand. It's a STEM school in with that crazy shit that has a happened last week. It's just a shame. This is the thing I would, before I apologize, formally, in summation on youth sports, adults ruin everything. Me and Ryan Clark were texting

about this and I was like, dude, adults ruin everything. And he said every time. And I can't tell you how many texts I've gotten from dudes that coach at the youth level or in college that are fed up with the culture around these seven-on-seven camps. I'm not saying they're all bad. But I am saying that when your coaches at a camp like this are capable of doing something like this, and I know what happened, okay, because there's certain people down there to say, you don't know what happened. I know exactly what happened. Okay, I'm not going to talk about exactly what happened.

But that should never happen at a seven-on-seven camp. Be a better example to kids. You know, like the shame of it is, is like kids got no shot when the adults, like coaches at a seven-on-seven camp are encouraging the wrong things or doing the wrong things themselves. Now, I put a little extra dip on the chip, and boy, do I feel like a fucking moron. This is the part where I say mea culpa, meaaculpa, okay? Maybe I need to go to BESTE Academy to learn Latin. They don't teach Latin there.

It's just... Epsilon Sigma. Are you, by chance, a disadvantage 6 to 12 grade minority student? Hey, fuck you. In Perry Park? Listen, this is a bad deal. And this, you know what? But here's the thing.

And I'm a moron, okay? Like, hey, Best Academy in Atlanta, keep up the great work. Now, the rest of it, I mean 110%. Like, 110%. That rant, I mean it. Like, as you could tell, down in my, I mean it down in my plums.

But when it comes to Best Academy, it just sucks because most people like me who think they're doing diligent research by reading articles and they see a name, and I go in on the name, the coaches, the whole thing, you gotta really really, realize I'm not that dumb. There's a lot of stupid people out here. Okay, like they're reading

B-E-S-T Academy under a video of somebody getting jumped on the steps and the guy happens to be an MVP quarterback in the NFL. So like it just sucks for real that that you guys get caught up in this thing and my fault, bro. My fault. I don't know what I could do to make it up to you, you guys and gals down at B-E-S-T Academy. I don't think I'm ever going to get invited to that camp, but it sucks that I was such a moron. We should go to the camp. day on that particular item. So I wanted to apologize. Hey y'all, Green Light has official merch like this hat right here, like the one on my head is dad hat. Love this hat. I'm not even a dad hat guy, but this thing fits great. This, this hat right here fits great. We've got

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It's quality, quality threads here, okay? Wouldn't do it any other way. What's next in housekeeping? Richard Lewis has assumed room temperature. Oh, okay. Born June 29th, 1947, Richard Lewis died. So many ways to execute the... On Tuesday.

The show syllabus is a show syllabus here. A rundown. It says, Richard Lewis died. That was too boring for you. Well, it says Richard Lewis is dead. Yes, he's dead. He died. All three of those way. Richard Lewis, man, he just seemed like a really kind person.

He really did. Like, I'm not going to be like some of the people that post interactions of Richard Lewis with Richard Lewis after he dies. Like I think, but I will say, like, he followed me on Twitter. And it was like one of the coolest like, oh my God, that guy follows me moments. And, you know, I followed him back or maybe. Maybe I followed him before. Probably that's how it went. And just started kind of looking at the way he operates.

And he just seemed to be a really kind person. He seemed to be a lot like the guy on the show. You know how Larry David's a certain way and the character is the character? I mean, I think Richard Lewis probably is a lot like the guy on the show. It was a lot like the guy in the show. And so rest in peace, Richard Lewis, big part of curb, hilarious dude. And like a character that you always kind of liked. Like he was a likable guy.

Likeable guy. Known for also Robin Hoodman and tights. Oh, yes. And I'm also told that I have to see episode, what, three or four of this season, which I haven't caught up on because there's some foreshadowing or like, I think it's even one. An illusion for the fact that he was going to pass.

There's some talk about what happens after you go. And that's very, is that meta? For sure. Yeah. And synchronicitous. And their relationship kind of reminds me of you and Macon's relationship. Really? Like their long term friendship where,

They've been friends since like the 70s, right? Well, you know, it's funny. We're going to talk about the Patsdoc here in a couple minutes, and like we all watched episode one and two. And Macon texted me the weirdest thing the other night. Well, it's weird, but I get it too. But when you think about the way you framed it, you were like, you're my Ernie Adams.

I texted you. Which makes you Bill Belichick in your own head. I thought you'd like that. No response. No, I was like, no, my response was, what channel is this on? Because I don't know. I work my smart TV. And then you said it's,

I thought you were referring to the Virginia game. I was trying to get to the padstock. Okay. Okay, so Richard Lewis passed away, and so did Virgil, you racist. Oh, Virgil. Yep. You left him off the eulogy list. Were you in the old bit, sitch it in the situation right now?

Okay, so anyways. The Roman poet? No, the Rassler. Got it. Okay. The wrestler? Yeah, 61 years old. Remember the wrestler, Virgil?

Yeah. Okay, so here we, Virgil was Iron Sheeks. tan, tan guy. Yeah, he had more melanin than you or I. And he was jacked. And he was... Nice guy. He was on social media like in the last day. I think so. Iron Sheek was his like rival.

And I was a big fan of following Iron Sheik, even though not to bring this up when he's, you know what he's room temp, as you would put it. But the guy, like I paid like $300 at one point to get a pair of his life. like wrestling tights and like an auction that I was going to put up in the studio or something. And, uh, and I got like a message and everything that like confirmed that I won the item and I never got the item. So, so I don't know who to contact about that. Got you, Bubba. Okay. So anyways, Gibroni. The other night, I just want to say, I want to say this. I, uh, Waylon has a birthday coming up. So happy birthday, Waylo, uh, beat you to the punch on that one. And then, um, you know, he's going to be eight years old, he's getting into sports, and he loves.

And it's one of these guys that I'm very happy that he gravitates to. You know, because your kids could be fans of any athlete. You try to steer them the right way, but like it's great when your kid is a huge Stefan Curry fan. It's his favorite player. And, you know, I surprised him the other day, drove up to Washington to watch the Wizards, and I didn't tell him where we were going for like two and a half hours. We were on like fucking G Street before I told him.

It was like a stubborn point of pride that he didn't know. I was like you don't even know what city we're going to us we were passing the White House I was like where are we you know he's like what's that thing the Washington monument he didn't know what am I paying for at school okay so anyways we roll up to the wizard's game and I just want to thank Chris from the Wizards and all the folks of the wizards because it's one of those situations where it's pretty cool to have played where people respect you enough to like hook you up when you go somewhere like that is not lost on me like Like not a superstar, but it was really cool to be there and get tickets.

And, you know, they put us in good seats. We got to go down and watch warm-ups. Chris Paul was warming up right next to us. I wanted to be like, hey, hey, I'm friends with Ryan Rosillo. You know, I was sitting in the corner next to Clay Thompson draining, corner threes for like 15 minutes. Steph Curry was shooting. He comes out late in warm-ups and everybody's waiting for him. And he was like two, three feet away from us.

And I did my best because he was talking to two people. and there's a bunch of kids coming up. And they're like, Steph, and their dads are kind of egging them on. Like, Steph, can you just give him a high five? And I sat there and I didn't interrupt. Good. You know, and I figured that's the move.

Yeah. But like, part of me was like, am I fucking this up? It's a core memory that he's even around stuff. And for a kid, like, there's no expectation you're going to meet stuff. It's just like seeing this guy warm up. That's a special thing. And like, I could imagine some kid back in the day got to watch Babe Ruth do batting practice or something like that was like when he's older i can say step was right there i was turning him

towards the court getting a picture with step i actually have a live photo of step bricking a shot which not a lot of people have that rare photo um but i i i feel like it was executed perfectly yeah you know well one day wayland's going to be our age and he could have been like oh man dad bothered step curry right this picture that i hate yeah exactly i look like the sandra bullock thing yeah you played it correctly yeah played it correct and it was fun and like honestly as cool as it was to see Steph, I saw George Miroson from like me to you. Wow. And it was incredible. The whole place stops and everybody looks at him like he's the Lord of the Rings character. George Murissan, dead or alive? Alive, bro. There were some people that thought otherwise,

but he's alive and well and very tall still. A couple things about the game. That Kisperk guy kind of went off. He's good. Yeah, I was like, this guy is a pickup game player, but he bald. He's the Gonzaga guy. I saw the big Doro Sackich guy Whatever the fuck his name is I saw him Eurostep somebody Shocked the hell out of me But I guess I shouldn't be shocked Judging by the Newark Man

You guys are so big in person right Still European How much taller in person are all these guys He's not George Mirosan I'll tell you he's really tall as Kuzma And Kuzma can get his own shots And he's like probably I met Kuzma's driver

And he was super cool And he sounds like Kuzma's happy to be in Washington and, you know, like, he definitely is, like, the center of that offense, which is cool. Washington has a guy that wears 97 that I think is going to be awesome. He's like, Bilal Kula Bali? Oh, dude, that guy's awesome. He plays his balls off? That guy's awesome.

It was just a lot of, it, I think the NBA is the best live sport to watch down close. You know, I'd take that over a 50-yard line. It's fun, it's light and bright. It's not guys getting melee at every play. It's like good things are happening. Cool, artistic motions, crossover. dribbling, passing, shooting. It's all there, and the possessions are

30 seconds. What is it? 30 seconds. 24. Well, and it's fun. It's a great fan experience. In Washington, like the Wizards are not great right now, but it is a really fun building to watch basketball game. It's very open. And then I love the fact that, like, my kid, you know,

he was in the handshake line where he got to like slap all the players' hands on the way end. And I wanted to be like, not the Wizards, or not the Warriors here. You're going to be high-fiving the Wizards. But, you know, he had his Steph Curry jersey on, which I was nervous about coming in the stadium with that, but they're like, no problem, dude.

Like, the NBA is just way more aware of the business. You know, it's just like the reason this stadium's packed tonight is because of Steph Curry. We're 9 and 49. Come on in. Come on in, man. Like, there's 400 kids with Steph jersey. Nine and 49.

Yeah. They're going to get better. They're going to get better. The only way to go is up. But I did like their city edition jerseys. And I think it was a great experience. I want to shout out. Chris and the rest of the staff there I just can't thank you enough like the NBA gets it and I love

going to that game also favorite player to watch like good guy award I could tell he's a good guy that's the thing about going to the NBA game you can read everybody's facial expressions watch how they work away from the ball like every little you know every little interaction Gary Peyton Jr seems like a great dude he fell into somebody on on on courtside and like it wasn't his fault and he was like I'm sorry you good like the whole thing the play's going on some people don't even do the I'm aware of yes like the bulldoze a cameraman and just like fucking get up and he was coming over a plus-nized model in Miami in your backyard doing football drill oh boy you're talking about tyree yeah don't even pay them he had he wanted some get back he wanted the get back

he wanted to get back supposedly Tyree's getting sued because he hit a lady too hard in a football game in the backyard whose son is in his camp. Oh, boy. Well, anyways, I loved it. I saw Anthony Gill. Nice. Wahua.

And, you know, Waylon had a great time. So, loved it. Happy birthday way. I know. Grown-ass man. First 15 time. So first 15 time, I got to pose the chief seaholic story. And it's more about Chief Seholic's lawyer.

If you guys haven't seen this, have you seen this? I mean, I don't know how you could get a worse lawyer. I mocked up a list actually of lawyers that would be better. Canary's Tony. Gary Busey. Lenny from What's Eating? Gilbert's Grape. Gilbert's Grape.

K.C. Wolf. Jackson Mahomes. Like, the list goes on. Richard Lewis. Richard Lewis. It could be anybody. Anybody but this Thomas Carcetti looking motherfucker, dude. This guy, I mean, look at his tie.

You know, if I get a lawyer, He's got a problem with that. The first thing I'm looking at is if you're dressed like Bill Belichick, because that's exactly what Bill wore in the Pats documentary, that big ass tie. This guy didn't have a shot. And so what does he do? He turns the whole thing into a football metaphor. He says, my client's knee hasn't touched yet. You know, the whole thing. Like, he could still score. What is scoring, by the way, for Chiefs the Holleck? So they'll go to the replay booth. It's 50 years if he's ruled down, Tony. I mean, like, what the fuck, dude? government's been blitzing is what he said

Xavier stepped into the rush he stepped up into the pocket and he pleaded guilty and then he finishes with thank you and God bless he's the president of America you know he's going to go to prison and he's not going to get a lot of snaps outside

but some guy's going to be running four minute mode on him in the cell you know that's what's going to be happening Chiefs hauling who 13 seconds by the way dude

Chiefs related. Did you know that Clark Hunt has a mansion inside Arrowhead? Yes. Okay, I'm the only person. This is the coolest thing. Inside of Arrowhead Stadium. Oh, wow. So like, okay, make it, imagine at the suite level, you look at a suite, right?

And they sit in their suite. It's probably like a double wide suite. And then behind it, they have an elevator that takes them up into the innards of the upper deck, which is a six-bedroom, three-story house. You've got, you know, I'm talking a fireplace that, a chimney. that goes through the house and they've got fireplaces on each level. They've got plasmos. My main question is windows.

Windows out onto the field. Oh, yeah. The sweet is right there. Wait to the pan. Wow. Yeah, so, I mean, that's just the living room. That's just the office. This is like a $2 million house in Almarl County.

Yeah. I mean, look at this fucking thing. Look at the beams, man. Two million. Look at the Spanish. You're out of touch. Look at the Spanish doorways. What are you calling those doorways?

Those are arched. Archwood. But, I mean, it's kind of Spanish architecture. They got accents. A little Spanish revival. Go to Thiefs. They're from Texas, Chris. You get that.

Yeah, I do. I think it's cool. Which stadium do you think you would want to have a sweet house inside? That's a really good. I mean, the link, dude. If me and that's what they should give guys that won the Super Bowl is like a suite with like a three-bedroom apartment back there. And you get a big board so we can gamble on other things. You know, like there's candy, there's jelly beans.

Like, you can get different. You get the pair of jelly beans. You get the coconut jelly. There's babysitters. Every jelly bean. There's babysitters. The whole thing. You got to pay if you're a charger and you win a Super Bowl.

There's a place you can smoke reifer inside the link, dude. Hey, Jeffrey. I got a Harold Carmichael jersey. Can you imagine a Soldier Field modern home, like a brownstone in the stadium? Oh, it'd be incredible. Incredible. So anyways. Arlington Heights or Grant Park?

Hey, I know you're a Francophile. Do you, uh, you're an anglophile and a francophile? I'm an anglophile. You know, what, uh, did you know that there's an apartment in top of the Eiffel Tower? Seriously, it's not a joke. No. It's fucking crazy. All right, who's up next.

Is that real? Yeah, for real. The guy who built it. You pull up the Zillow for that? The guy who built it put an apartment up there. It's like 550 feet in the air. If everyone could be quiet. You got it.

I'm going to be serious for a moment in the playoffs. Just weeks after his sister's tragic passing, Isaiah Thomas scored 53 points on his sister's birthday. Magic Johnson overcame an HIV diagnosis to lead the dream team to gold. Michael Jordan collected an NBA title after the murder of his father. Dale Earnhardt Jr. won Daytona after his father had died at Daytona. Monica Seles returned to the court after literally being stabbed in the back. And Lance Armstrong won several tours de France after having his penis and testicles removed on account of cancer.

He didn't have his penis removed. Well, uh, whoa, whoa, wait a second. Why are he trying to do that to Lance? And now make, and now make way for Duke Big Man, Kyle Philipowski, who returned,

who returned to the court Wednesday night, pouring in nine points in a 25.2. Quinn, just four days after hurting his knee or his ankle, depending on who you ask, while trying to trip and push a Wake Forest undergraduate. Thank you, Kyle, for the inspo. Courageous doesn't begin to describe it.

The Lance part, that was supposed to get rock. We should wear patches. We should wear palaces. We should wear Philippaity. I was just thinking about how fucking impressive Lance run what or ride was. Not as impressive. a dick though. Or, yeah.

If that's what you did happen. Lance was like Barry Bonds. He's just better than everybody because everybody else was dope. You remember that question that would you rather we had Nate? And it was like, would you rather lose your testicles or it was something else? What was it, Nate? And it went viral. Yeah, you lose your fingers or your testicles.

And Nate's like, I'm losing my, I'm losing my fingers. I was like, what are you talking about, bro? Chop mine off. Well, okay, I was talking to somebody today that had to go to the hospital last week because he sat on his testicles. Yeah, he had to go to the hospital and get imaging and tell people why he was there and stuff. See, I'm just saying on topic, I'm glad you brought this up with Lance. Because those things are in the way a lot. They are in the way. I think I win that contest. Okay. Bottom line is, Lance was just different. And I don't want you making fun of his penis.

Yeah, he's not really, his penis wasn't the punch line. It was Kyle Philibowski. Yeah. That was a throw away joke in a kid. I just wanted to clear that up, bro. Hey, that's good. Anybody else got a first 15? Yeah, I have a first 15. Okay, so I was on TikTok. So I do this thing called a dream feed, okay?

We employ the dream feed with our daughter. She just turned three weeks old, okay? We didn't have a party, but we just keep track. Yeah. And at like 10.30, I go in there, and the baby's asleep, and I get the baby out of the crib, and I bring her into the closet. There's a little bit of natural moonlight, and I feed the baby. It's nice.

It's because, you know, we got the blackout curtains of the bedroom. I can't see. You got like a dogwin set up over there. So you go into the closet, you get the moonlight. It's nice. It's a nice, intimate moment with your daughter. But this isn't what I'm here to talk about. After the dream feed, I scroll TikTok for like 30 minutes every night now.

And I got into like conspiracies and all this stuff. And now I'm into like morbid facts. And one of them, I don't know if it's true or not, is they give away free ice cream on cruises. because they need to make room for dead bodies. Kyle. On the ships because they say, hey, look, you got to keep in mind the people that are riding on these ships, okay? A lot of older folks that are using it as an alternative to going to retirement communities.

So they can spend less money to live on a cruise ship. Oh. Pretty cool, huh? Oh, that's interesting. You just do that all year around. Pretty cool. Yeah. So, like, people are going to die on these ships.

It's going to happen. And then there's obviously accidents and things of that nature. But I thought it was fascinating. So I was like, I took a video and I was kind of like, how many people are actually dying on these cruise ships? Hey, can I ask question? Yeah. Mr. Long? Yes.

Are you, are you intimating that the ice cream is made of dead people? No. No. What I'm saying is they get rid of the ice cream because there's not a lot of freezer space. Oh. So they need to put the dead bodies in the freezer so they don't decompose. I thought you were saying Richard Lewis was ice cream. So then I said, so then I, here's the stat, okay?

This is a study published in the International Journal of Travel Medicine and Global Health in November 2020. Researchers found that between 2000 and 2019, there were 557 passenger deaths and 66 crew deaths reported across 78 registered ocean and river cruise lines from That's a really high rate of crew death. So there's like, there's people just dying out there. And somebody even said in my mentions, I work for a, you know, a cruise ship for many years. And we actually had a morgue in the cruise ship. And people said there's a morgue in the Belagia. I'm starting to feel like there's dead people storage everywhere.

So they're not bin Ladening these people? They're not just throwing out of the ocean. Like, why not just give them a, you know, a Viking funeral? We've got to get these bodies back to port. There is, um. There is like a short series. Grandma's coming home from the cruise. Forget the name of it.

But it was basically about a cruise ship that was when COVID hit and they got stuck and people, there was a bunch of people dying on the cruise. And then no one would let the cruise dock because they knew they had infected people. So they had to just stay out there. For like three months, for like three months with people dying. Just like, that's crazy. I'm not going on a cruise ship. I'm just not. No, I'm just not. Thank you for that.

But I could see how it would be a better option than going to a retirement community. Oh, for sure. For sure. I want to, if I was on... I don't want to shit on any town, but if I'm living in blank town in blank state and I'm like, fuck my life, dude, I see the same thing. I have the same view every day. It's like, put me on a cruise ship at least. I'm just... I'm just... All-inclusive?

Yeah, bro. Be lit. I'm just going to let... I'm going to let the people of the West Indies deal with me. going to just get off the boat at some point. I have port towns have to deal with me. Yeah, just some ports can have to deal with me. I don't want to die on a cruise ship.

Okay. I guess now we talk about sports. The NFL Combine is ongoing. It is ongoing. Kyle, I wonder, you know, it's been many years and a video service of you and I at the Combine. Boy, you were a big guy. At the Combine, my man.

I mean, tree trunks for legs, my guy. Yeah, I was like, I believe the exact measurements were six, 313. And it's the first, I mean, for an offensive lineman, especially, it's your first opportunity to have some recognition. Like, you were lucky enough to play in a big time conference, and you played a position that was showcased on defense. Because you made plays.

And people knew who you were before the combine. They just wanted to see the numbers back. They want to make sure that you actually. For me, they were like, we want to get to know this guy in the meeting rooms. Like, obviously, I did things physically that other guys my size couldn't do, but I had some red flags in my past and they wanted to get to know me. I had 17 of those private interviews back to back one night. And it's speed dating.

It's 30 minutes an interview in a room. You walk into each of these rooms for people that don't know. It's the entire state. It's the head coach, the OC, the DC, the scouting director. And sometimes they're behind you. You can't see them and you're talking to one guy. And sometimes they're in front of you. The weirdest experience I had was I walked into one room and they introduced me to a

psychologist who conducted the interview. So I knew that I was in in trouble there. Yeah, you were like, shut her eye. Some people ask you football questions. Some people ask you questions about your past. But the important thing, and I'll say this for young guys, and if you're a young guy who's going to be going to the combine next year, be as honest as you can because these guys not exactly what you've done, where you've been, who you've been with, and why you were there. So be honest, because like throughout the course of 17 meetings, If you change your story at all, you can't even keep up with the lies. So tell the truth and deal with the results of it because where you end up is probably where you should be.

What story did you change? Yeah, what did you lie about? I didn't lie about anything. I was so honest with these coaches that, I mean, it was like. Remember the guy they asked him if you could change one thing about yourself? The funniest story. I just remembered this. He goes, bigger dick.

Maybe a bigger dick. Chris, the Seahawks. And they were like, what? The Seahawks, Chris. So all these teams, it's at the train station hotel. Oh, I already know. Dude, you can stay in a real authentic train car at the, what is it, the convention center. I forget the name of that.

This is where I stayed is inside of a train. So all the teams had their private meetings conducted right there, train side in the lobby. Well, the Seahawks were like at the top of the, the cream of the crop of the time. Yeah. They had a hotel suite set up. So they were like, the Seahawks, I got to go upstairs to go see the Seahawks. I walk in, it's all, it's, you know, it's all the OGs from the, Seattle.

Snyder P. Guys you recognize. And they were like, oh, we forgot one thing. And I had, for, I got in trouble, I had a DUI when I was 19. You know what I mean? It's why I changed from baseball. Oh, I'm aware. There's the fastest I ran a mile.

So I sit down for the Seahawks meeting at the boardroom meeting, like in succession. And they said, oh, we forgot one thing. And like a young paper pusher, somebody ran out with a case of beer, opened it up and put one in front of me. And they thought it was the funniest thing in the world. Did you drink it? Like these are the senses of humor that these NFL Yeah, they're fucking with you.

Staffs have. They want to find out how you react to shit. What'd you do? I was like, well, if you guys don't drink that, I should bring that to my room. Yeah, that's the perfect answer. I will drink this in my train car, which I cannot drive. I was like, I already ran. Kyle, the news in the morning is Kyle ran the train car into the 40-yard line.

The last thing, Chris, I was balding in college. Like, obviously I'm full bald now, and I shave my head. to make sure I'm bald. But if I didn't shave my head, I would have the cul-de-sac. You know what I mean? Like the Tom Cruise from Tropic Thunder. Yeah. My roommate at the combine was Brian Schwanky, who was the Cal Berkeley Center.

He had a beautiful ponytail. He was a big burly center, badass dude, but really bright. And he told me really seriously the night before. He goes, do you have a plan for tomorrow? And I was like, what do you mean? He was like, for your hair. and I was like, no. And I was like, I'm probably going to wear a hat or something.

He was like, he goes, don't wear a hat. He was like, you have an opportunity tomorrow to introduce yourself to these people that are watching. He was like, make it, you know, turn it into a positive thing. He was like, I think we should shave it tonight. And I shaved it. And I came out there and I ran and people looked at me like I was crazy. Like all these guys I've been talking to all week, all these black dudes I've been talking to all week, were looking at me like I was like, somebody else.

Because you shaved your head. I mean, I look like a skinhead. They're like, why are you bald? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're a senior in college. Why are you bald? This is on purpose. Why is man's bald, girl?

No, W-Rummate, though, like, because doing that instead of having the cul-de-sac, like, it probably did. He was like, you got a plan? I don't know, man. I might have drafted you just off of, like, looking unstable. I'm not going to lie to, girl. I showed her the video you were running. She goes, Kyle was bald in college?

He was born in college And they do that one drill Where you get a guy in front of you And they run him back and forth It's called the mirror dodge drill Yeah rabbit drill I guess you would call it And they put all these fat guys in front of the O-Lyman Because it's offensive linemen rushing on offensive lines

Yeah that dude was brother-in-law I get up there Yeah that's me I get up there Fucking Lane Johnson is my rabbit Oh shit That's not good No

And then like when I have to set a wide nine Lane Johnson is the guy running It broke the record for 40 times. He'd been Tehran Armstead ran like 4-7s. Freak show. Yeah. Yeah, no, for me, I just remember walking into the Kansas City Chiefs meeting because they were picking like four or something.

They took three. They took Glenn Dorsey. And, you know, I wanted, like, the Chiefs were, that was interesting to me. And so I walked in the meeting, and I'm, like, kind of excited to meet the Chiefs. And everybody's sitting in that meeting room in the hotel room there, normal hotel room.

And in the back of the room, there's a bathroom. And in that bathroom is the annual. reminder to people who listen that Herm Edwards was sitting in a chair inside the bathroom next to the commode face totally sideways not facing the room not facing the entrance to the door not listening to what we were saying but not making any eye contact and to this day I have no idea what Herm Edwards was doing and I'm not sure if that was like a fuck you or like you're not going to be here when we pick or like it was like a psych out but it kind of worked you know I'm on the board and I'm like what the fuck is herm edward's doing tony sperano uh called me out he had like sunglasses on

inside and i got out of the uh the room where they prod you bro you're in your underwear and they're just like poking you and and they're like calipering your body fat and they're staring at you and uh i come back and you weigh in i come back in the other room and sperano's grilling me and he's like how many bottles of water did you drink you're not 270 you're like he was playing hardball you know so you can get like buddy buddy you can get good cop bad cop you can get just like a blitz of, you know, discomfort as soon as you walk into the room. And it is like the biggest job interview of your life. And when you think back at the kind of guy you were at 21, 22, 23, it's incredible that as ill-equipped as we were to be adults, we did get ready, like

professionals for that stuff. I can remember I trained so hard, dude. It was like, you know, I'd never stopped drinking for as long as I did before the combine. I had abs on abs. As soon as I got done, I got in the SUV and there were two hurricanes waiting for me and me and my trainer started slugging 40s and it was back to normal. But for a month or two, for a lot of these guys, you go in in a hole and you just, you put your head down and you work. And so I hope all the guys at the combine this week have great weeks, you know, because there's nothing worse than seeing somebody run a disappointing time or jump a disappointing bra jump or the bench press, like fuck that up. I hate seeing guys have bad combines. I really, I'm, I'm, I'm,

for everybody because they put so much work into it. Now we're going to talk about the combine later in a different sense where Macon's actually going to, he's got some questions lined up for us as if he was one of these coaches. But I was doing some reading last night. It's crazy how it's changed, dude. The history of the combine is 1982. They started it. And in 1982, it wasn't in Indianapolis at all. It was like in New Orleans or Arizona or something. 87 is the first year that they had the combine in Indian. I was reading an article last night. about, you know, Rod Woodson. He was at the time of Stud, living in, he's from Fort Wayne, Indiana.

And his college coach comes up to him and he says, and this is verbatim, there's a combine coming up, Rod. What's that? It's an indie. I'll drive. You know, it's like just a totally different time. And, you know, when you look back at that combine, the purpose of the combine was actually to pull money together to be able to do x-rays and medical.

Like all the teams wanted to pull their money together because there's two expensive to do it individually. Skills training was second. So it wasn't about looking at your times or anything like that. Medical event. It's like a vehicle inspection, right? Show me the car facts. I just want to know how many collisions this, this car has been in. Like you, you know, it could be a Ferrari, but how many incidents? And like, that's what they were trying to figure out. And that's still the point today. But I think what's interesting is they were checking pulses as needed in 1987. It wasn't like any diagnostic or health, you know, like they were doing x-rays and that sort of shit. But the combine today can actually save lives, dude. It's crazy how much they

prod you. There are guys that could drop dead two years later with a heart defect that find out at the combine. And it's just, it's a testament to how crazy it is. So, you know, the thing about Indy was they had a dome, so it was predictable in the weather, and they had faster x-rays. Like the old cities, Arizona, New Orleans, they had x-rays machines that, like, it took a day or two. Like, guys were getting their x-rays and Pony Express. Like, it was like a totally different time. They had x-ray guys who were working around the clock and they could just do an x-ray, churn out the next guy. Guys were doing them all night, supposedly, in the 80s. So you didn't get any sleep, you had to do x-rays. And then, like, in the morning, two hours sleep, you wake up and run.

Dad told a story when he was at his pro day that it was so, like, back at Villanova, it was so, I know this story. It was so underfunded that they would run in the gym, and the gym was like 36 yards long. And there's a hallway. So they say, so he had to run. So he had to run. run like the last five to 10 yards started in the hallway in the hall start in the hallway run through the basketball court yeah so it's just changed a lot um and that year did you get red flagged for anything at the combine uh yeah cheating cheating yeah i tried to do you know this no it wasn't really a red flag oh your fingertips yeah so like when you when you do the the vertical what they do for people at home is like they put you against the wall and have you reach up as far as you can

reach to establish a a baseline for for how high you can reach so So then they can find out how high you're jumping. And I went barehanded on the wall and they push your, they're like, no, harder. Like they push your hand against the wall to make sure you're reaching. Because guys will tuck their scap. There's like a whole technique where they teach you to touch your, you know, tuck your scap as you can.

Shorten your arm length. They're too good for that. So I had a different plan, which was as soon as I got my baseline, I walked over to where I had a glove hidden with some tissue paper in the fingertips of the glove and tried to throw that bad boy on before I jumped. Now, of course, that's akin to pulling somebody over with a tail light out. It's like easy for them. And they were like, hey, take the glove off.

So, yeah, I was cheating, but I was trying. The one thing I want to say about 1987. It's egregious that we just blow right past them. Yeah. How many MRIs do you think were taken in 1987 at the scouting combine? Zero. Three. Three total.

So it's just crazy. And it was a different time. In 1987, coincidentally, I was reading this article. there was a guy that there was a team the bucks picked the wrong player so like so they called the the people at the you know the the the hub called the people at the draft and they were like we want to pick you know Rick Smith and then you know they read a totally wrong name and they ended up with the wrong yeah Rick Rice and they ended up with the wrong guy on their team so just the draft the combine has come a long way and and wishing those guys luck this week it's like the Pats

tour room in the dock where the guys on the phone is like, so you want me to put that pick in and then Pioli and Bill are like, yeah, put it in fuck. Yeah, dude. I mean, it's like so the dock is the next thing. We were supposed to watch episodes one and two. I think Kyle just... I watch one. You watch one.

So, you've watched one and two. So you're caught up with where we're going to be. No spoiler. I know what happens. Spoilers. Okay. Spoiler alert. They win a Super Bowl almost at the end of the second episode. Drew Bletsog gets cucked and the whole thing. But the whole thing starts with, what is it?

It starts with 9-11. Yeah. And the craziest line of the whole thing was like, they were like, first 9-11 and now Drew Bloodsoe? That's what I said. That's what I said. Can you believe they said that? To compare that is crazy.

There's a moment of silence for... Not a shot. It's just what he believes. During the first game back for the Pats at Foxborough Stadium, there's a moment of silence. And there's a moment of silence. dude just right when the moment of silence begins yells, take your hat off.

Yeah, dude, I heard that. Like, come on. The mics they had at the stadiums. Like, you hear everything these fans said, but I just wanted to pose this question to you guys because we see a lot of 2001 Tom Brady, which is my favorite, Tom Brady, is the young, drunk, Tom Brady.

He looks like a normal guy. Like a hot normal guy, right? He's Tom Brady, but he's not Tom Brady. And so the question I would pose to you guys, well, more so for making, the resident expert on all things guys looks, is Drew Bledsoe in 2001 a hotter guy than 2001 Tom Brady? For sure. Yeah. No question. Is Drew Bledsoe in 2024 hotter than Tom Brady?

In 20204? So it looks great. He looks young. Have you seen the Brady cutaways, though? Honestly. They're pretty good. For me, yeah. I'm dating Drew Bledso before I'm dating Tom Brady.

Right now? Let me ask you something. I think so. I was getting a massage. Did you see Tom Brady run the 40? How good he looks? But it's, but Drew's not having all that work done, you know? Yeah, Drew's a, he's a natural beauty.

That's hate. That's hate. I don't know if that's hate, bro. I don't know if that's hate. Hey, and the thing about Drew Bletsso, you roll up on Drew Bletzo. He's a big tall strapping guy, dude. He's like 6'6. Big Western man.

He's a Western man. Anyways, I just, you know, the whole Thai law is selling the house to Brady. Time Law has got his... $150,000. He fleeced them. And Ty Law had his TV sunk into the wall. Double, which is like the 2001 version of having like eight TVs.

Because Ty Law had one TV sunk into the wall. It was recess. Tom, Tom, you know, like the Wally Pip thing, there was a very real feeling I got. Not that I was ever Drew Bledsoe or Tom Brady ever took my spot, but like you and I have both been Wally Pitt because of injuries, I think. you know like like eventually for you injuries was what got your job taken when i i'll never forget sitting down with gregg williams who i love and him being like chris you're not yourself

like we got to play william like you're gonna you're gonna play but we it's a disservice to the team to start you and it's the worst thing you could ever hear and like it just it crushes you like even though you know it's fair it crushes you as a competitor and uh how you respond to that is it's up to the guy. And Drew in the moment, and Drew and I talked about this when he came on the pod. Like, you could tell he was bitter. Like, he was bitter.

He didn't think that was fair. And to be honest, part of me wonders if the same thing would have happened with Drew at quarterback, you know, in some different form. I'm not saying he won one-on-six, seven championships. But when you talk about Bill and his legacy and we hit on this when he retired,

they won that first Super Bowl because of the defense. And they won the last Super Bowl because of the defense. And, you know, like Tom, His greatness is obvious, but I felt for Drew watching that. And even though he probably didn't handle himself exactly how he probably wanted to, looking back on it, I don't know. It wasn't obvious to me when they were interviewing Drew, the awkward interview, where he says he, I'll say this, I hope to get the opportunity to get my job back,

if Tom is literally sitting right next to him. Because they cut and he's sitting down there, but it wasn't clear if he was sitting down there listening to that. It had to be a bunch of tension. It's good editing. Even looking back when he said after that Rams game where they lost, and they went five and five at that point, it was Tom's first back game.

And Drew, like, even in retrospect, was like, I thought a little shine would come off that nickel and I'd be able to get back out there. Like, he still kind of looks at it a little sideways, and the funniest thing to me was with Bill's history and Bernie Cozar and Cleveland, which I don't know if you've gotten to this yet, Kyle, the funniest thing in the whole fucking documentary so far

was the Cleveland fans, actually built gallows and hung all brown art modell and uh tom brady bill bellichick bill bell he said until the day that i die i will walk to the end of this earth that terrorize and torture you yeah it's just wild times man wild times in the nfl and going through the the the tuck rule thing and like they went hurry up in the snow to get back in that game like they just did bold things to kick that field goal. I know they didn't have much of a choice, but to make that kick, like, incredible. So it just frames things, I think, for a lot of younger people who grew up with the Patriots being dominant all the time in a different light where it's like, Crafts talking

about, they haven't won a super, they haven't won a playoff game in X amount of years. It's crazy today's kid, like an Aden age kid who's a Pats fan, that that was the reality, the old Foxborough Stadium, which was right behind where I lived, the footprint of where that thing was. I looked out at where it would have been. Looks like a really legit Texas high school football station. Yes, dude. Yeah. It wasn't always the Patriots, man.

And I think it's just incredible to watch the origin story and like see these characters kind of weigh in because at the time you assume everybody's like, yeah, you know Brady's going to be great. But there was a time period where you're like, I don't know, he's just a kid running the offense. It's good, but they are directly copying the last dance. Yes. And they don't have quite as much behind the scenes footage that we've never seen.

They did get SVP with. hair. Yeah. That was a really cool cameo. Scott Van Pelt with hair. Also, young, young Bill Belichick, look at how he dealt with the media. Yep. Laughing. Given big, long answers. Like, you know, it's just, it's so crazy to see how callous people become over a 20-year run and how they change naturally because of the stressors and the successes and the lows. I love the very old footage, but it was, the strangest part for me was a very weird reenactment. of Ernie Adams leaving his house to drive to the game. That was weird.

Listen to the radio. Yeah, with definitely fake radio calls. Fake radio calls. And it's Ernie Adams today. It's not like, not 20 years ago. It's not a home run documentary, but like I'll watch it.

Yeah, you're going to give me. I like it. I fuck with it. It's good. I hold Tom Brady, obviously, in the same regard, I hold MJ.

And I remember when I got signed to the Chiefs and I was training, I prepped myself to be around greatness by watching the last dance. I think it's another reminder of some of the mental sharpness and toughness that you have to carry with you if you want to be the go and i can't wait for the whether it's tecmo yeah or it's the

fucking denver broncos you're playing but i can't wait for when it's not right now it's not easy for them in episodes one and two i can't wait for that 10 year drought because i'm just so interested to know like the strain behind the scenes after losses and in big games and that that long spell between championships i think the relationship he has with nugent uh was it it's nougent his center yep yeah um at the beginning is really cool they show the picture of tom brady on the wall of the apartment. And he said, I think that's a completion there. He's like, yeah, completion of me hitting it.

Yeah, right. It's such a classic bro relationship. That's a bro relationship. Young Tom Brady was a bro. He still is. I know what I didn't like. And it showed how kind of ruthless old locker room, NFL locker room were.

The prank they played on Brady, not acceptable. They put invisible ink in his shoes that they, the ink that, the ink that if you rob a bank, like a packet explodes on you, and you can't get it off for two weeks to a month. I think Bledso had a lot to do with that. So they can catch.

Yeah, they can catch you. And the thought of having purple feet, like, while you're training and, like, athletes' foot or whatever it is, that is really, I think that's really fucked up. That's a step below when they put a tarantula in Kyle's room in the training. I was going to say, like, I don't know what's worse. Tarantula. Tarantzile's overla. I don't know, bro.

Like that, that, that, it happened. You screamed. You were scared. If you put a snake. You think about it, like, if there's more. But, like, it's over with. If you put a snake in my room, I'm going to find you and I'm going to choke you. Yeah.

I know. It's not that the snake or the spider's not going to be there tomorrow night. It said, I'm going to have the thought of, is there a snake or a spider in my bed? No, but you're also going to be tracking. It's like, like, two weeks for your purple to go. But you're going to be tracking ink everywhere you go. No, I don't think it works like that. You're talking like it's a cartoon.

Like it's just like a no bro what do you mean no once it's on it's on it's on it's on for like three weeks i don't think you're like walking around on your carpet you just have a henna tattoo bro like yeah it's an your tribal now yeah yeah how about josh craft being a little mark walberg huh he left early the game early and how about how did he call him i guess they had cell phones in 2001 barely you know but they were rich they probably how does he get back in though well he's josh crap after 9-11 you need another ticket buddy he's josh craft yeah you're right you're right no it's weird clear bags and everything now And because I had combine on the mind, how come we don't measure kickers' feet? That's really interesting.

Like Adam Venetary, I was wondering if he had like a little baby size nine foot that's, you know, compact and powerful or if he's got a 15 at the end of his leg. That's an interesting question. You put your kickers in those little shoes that they put people in in China. Right. What else should they measure? Chris Jones has been called back to the field for another event. Like cup size? I'm talking like breasts.

See that some of these in the limine? Oh yeah. Big dog. How bigger his tit? Big jacks. They're up in the room like, man, that guard from Iowa State's got some jacks. How big is that ass? How many inches?

All right. Even non-kickers, though. I can see an Ernie Adams type. Starting to want like, hey, I want a guy with size 12. I don't want a guy tripping over his feet. Kyle, if you were a coach and you had one measurement, you could figure out with offensive lineman, and what would it be?

For me, with defensive linemen, it's not only arm length, but it's ankle flexion. I talk about it all the time. Front squat. Front squat. Interesting. Nice. How good was your front squat? Pretty good.

Yeah. And that goes back to the question. When you ask somebody in an interview, what do you think would make a great, you know, XYZ, the person always goes back to what they were good at. Front squat or. They'll tell you what they're at. So, like the bend. The bend in your ankle, which I didn't have.

You asked me. But you think it's front. And I think it's front squat. And I think it's front squat. because I know it fucking works. Yeah, well, it might work for you, big dog. Well, I would say anything that you're building up, your core, your ankle flexion, your hip mobility,

that's one exercise that just gets everything, really. Well, I'm pretty sure Cam Hayward can front squad a whole boatload of weight. Yeah. And he's a great, great guy to talk to, just one Walter Payman of the year. A guy got a lot of respect for it. And just that probably an easy listen you'll find

because he's an easy guy to talk to. Enjoy Cam, and then we're going to have some fun in a couple minutes. Welcoming now to the show. This year's Walter Payton Man of the Year, Pittsburgh Steeler Great. I can call him a Pittsburgh Steeler great already. Cam Hayward. Welcome to the show, dude. Appreciate you having me, brother.

It's so good to see you. The last time I saw you, I had to go to, my brother had a dinner. Not you, Kyle, but Howie had a dinner, our youngest brother, during NFL honors. and I didn't have my phone, and I walk into Kelsey's party, and there you are. And I'm like, how's your weekend going? And you're like, I just one man of the year. We're in the club, dude. So how did it feel?

And how was the speech? I mean, I watched it, but how did that go? Dude, man, it was one of those euphoric nights where, you know, I hadn't planned on it. You know, I went into it thinking, like, man, I'm just here to have fun, have a good time. It's in Vegas. brought my wife and we were just going to enjoy it but um you know the the night was awesome uh they didn't tell me i was winning so i didn't really have a speech ready and so you know uh that was crazy in itself but man i was uh you know those moments you'll never forget so you went off

the cuff a little bit yeah yeah i didn't know what to say well the things that's always better though I mean, I feel like that's always better, especially for athletes. We can maneuver those issues a little bit. Well, the things that came to the top of your mind, obviously you talked a lot about your mom and you talked a lot about Mike Tomlin and the Steelers organization. Like those were truly the first things that came to mind, huh? Yeah. You know, you want to single in on the people that are there because there's like, it's a crowd.

So it's like, I don't want to get lost in the middle of it. But I just wanted to thank them. Because, one, the Steelers gave me the opportunity. My mom and my wife and Coach Tomlin have all been instrumental in helping us get to this point. And I just wanted to thank the nominees. I've been there when you won, and shoot, I watched you, and I was appreciative of just hearing your story and hearing the work you did. It's cool to be recognized as, you know, the May of the Year,

but it's even cooler to see what the guys are doing around the lead. because I don't know if we do a great job of always highlighting what great job our guys are doing. Yeah, I always feel like bad news travels way faster and good news. And there's so much good news, man. And I just remember going there. And, you know, like winning in it's cool. And I know you've been there a lot when you were nominated. But for me, it's like everybody's a winner for being there.

You know, like all the work we're doing getting showcased and looking around and sharing the stage with certain guys. Like for you, who was the guy that you shared the stage with that you were just blown away to be standing with? Dude, well, like, was it two years ago when Witt won? Yeah. When Whitworth won. And I was like, man, I'm not even in the same category as this dude. Like, this dude's amazing. Like, man, I was like, I didn't feel worthy of even being up there with him

because I was just like, man, Witt is doing an amazing job. And then to see, you know, the fruits of his labor where another player was affected by it, I was just like, damn, that's special. he's a special guy and I felt that way about all you guys like I was just kind of I felt like unworthy the way you put it you know like I almost felt guilty to win the award you know what I mean because it's just like there's so many dudes who you're like that guy's a better guy than me like man of the year like the MVP award it's like there's going to be arguments over it every year but it's all good stuff because like you said we've got so many great people on that stage every year and there's so many guys that probably could be on the stage as well there's so many guys that aren't on the stage and the whole thing but I just The work you do is incredible. And one of the things that I was zero in on was Craig's closet. And I just think that's so cool, you know, getting dudes who are nervous about a big interview or something where they have to wear a suit, the right threads.

And I guess my follow-up question for you would be, was this the most nervous you ever were in a suit? Besides, you know, the most nervous is probably when I got married. Because I was like, why the hell of my wife marrying me? Yeah, like, what's the catch, dude? When's the other shoe going to drop? Who's playing the joke on me? Like, you know, but, you know, when they told me I won, I was just like, like, you see Prince Harry up there. And I'm like, how the heck am I supposed to, like, be up there with Prince Harry?

Like, it's not, it doesn't even make sense at this point. Well, your football royalty now, I mean, it's really the biggest award in the National Football League. People love the MVP and the Super Bowl, but it's really the pinnacle of our sport to be, you. at the top as a man as a football point. And you know what's great about a lot of the guys in Cam's, one of these guys that, like, I consider I'm like Hall of Fame guys, like players and Hall of Fame guys, too. You know, like

it is a special thing to be both and you are. And I just, when we were talking about the speech, of course, dude, when we were talking about the speech, I'm looking out there and I can remember, and I don't watch Stranger things, but David Harbor is a guy recognized from a lot of stuff. And, you know,

I'm nervous. I'm like, how's the speech going? And I can see, like, under the spotlight is David Harbor and he's sitting there like and he's nodding. It just gave me a little juice to like keep going. And I'm wondering, did you, could you see the people in the crowd? Like, were you kind of starstruck by anybody looking out there? Because, you know, comedians can't see. Musicians can't see, but they light that thing so you can see everybody's face. Yeah, you know, I was trying to zero in on like people I knew because I was like, okay, if I can go with them like. Just trying not to look at you. Yeah. You know, I knew like the host, Keegan Michael Key.

we met years ago at a Pro Bowl. And so, you know, I saw him at the corner of my eye. I'm looking at him. He's excited for me. But then I look into the, you know, the audience. I'm looking at Mike T. Mike T. You know, they have pictures of him.

He looks like a proud dad in that moment. I'm like, man, that's awesome. But, you know, I'm looking at my wife, my mom. I'm looking at the Peyton family because, you know, you get so close to him. And it's like, man, like, you're just appreciative. because, like, I felt like they were my biggest cheerleaders, too. So it didn't feel like I had to, you know, go off the spectrum and really, you know, talk off cuff, though. Yeah, well, I mean, like, Mike Tomlin, he's a younger guy.

He's getting older now. But, like, I always think of him as a young guy. Number one, he looks young. And number two, he acts young, like, and you being, like, going into year 14 coming up. What's y'all's relationship like? Is it kind of like peer to peer, you know, like you guys are brothers? Or is it kind of like he's your big brother? is he just coach?

He's coach, big brother. He's wrapped up in a lot, man. You know, he texts me, he was at the combine, and he's already talking shit to me. He's already giving me hell, you know, talking about I got these D-Lymin out here. I just want to draft them all. So, you know, he's getting underneath my skin and that way.

But, you know, as much as he talks about my old age, I was like, now Belichick's gone. You're the oldest coach now, so deal with that. So, you know, it's always, you know, poking and proud at each other to, you know, make us better. That's not real. No, yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't believe it. Well, he's the most tenured for sure.

I just refuse to believe that Mike is the oldest. How old is Mike Tomlin? Dude. Well, they just pulled up, they just pulled up oldest NFL coaches and they had like Romeo Cornell in there. Every year, those eyes got a little bit of him. Andy Reid's still got him. Andy Reid's got him, but the longest tenured coach in the NFL is Mike

Tom. It's just incredible, dude. And, you know, I was thinking for you in Vegas, you know, and me as a guy who's been to a Super Bowl and the whole thing, like, you're imagining being in that game in Vegas. And like, if you, if you were there this year, year 13, grizzled that, you know these young guys' eyes get big in Vegas. Like, how, what do you think the challenges would have been had you guys gotten that far of like, of keeping it together that week? You know what I mean? Like, what do you, what do you, what do you got pickings, like a padlock on his room and you know there would have been just a bus leading them you know they took him out of the city but you know there would have been a bus leading everybody right back to the city

no question no question party bus i think some of the nights i've heard about like when guys have been there before there's always been a curfew of when you're in the city yeah but i don't know like it's more just like understanding we got a job to do like you know would you rather you know, 15 minutes of feeling good, or would you rather eternity of being remembered? Exactly. That's what would be my message. Like, we could party after, but, you know, we got a job to do.

Oh, yeah, you can party after. You know what I remember for eternity? It was my introduction to the Pittsburgh Steelers football team. It was my rookie year, 2013. We went up to Hinesfield on Monday night football. I don't know if you remember this game, but it was the game where Cutler hit Ryan Clark, I believe, outside the hash on a scrambles.

Well, during one of these... Now we're on the same set. During one of these plays, I'm blocking, maybe I was blocking you or trying to block you. And the play ended and I'm trying to walk back to the huddle. I'm walking by a pile and Kiesel table tosses me over a pile. And I go to put my hand up for him to pick me up and he sikes me out. I got up and I was like, you're that guy, hon? He was like, I guess so.

And to me, oh, man, what an asshole. In my brain, I was like, I guess all the Pittsburgh Steelers are just asshole. You know, you grow up, you're watching James Harrison. He's like the biggest bully in the world on the football field. I want to ask you because you are the archetypical stealer right now. I mean, I think about guys like Vince Williams, who many people don't know the way he played the game,

but people know Troy Palmalu. Who is the most archetypical steeler? dealer that maybe people wouldn't associate with the team that you've played with since you've been in Pittsburgh that I've played with? Oh man. I know Landon Roberts hits as hard as almost any of them. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's a beat. He's always coming downhill. E. Rob doesn't play. It might be Vince, though. Like, Vince doesn't get enough credit for what he did. Like, we always call him our 907 linebacker because, you know, if he gets, you know, if he gets a lot of you in the hole he is going to make you pay i think one year he had like seven sacks at the inside

linebacker position so it was just like he wore 98 i know i know he was always just running around a big guy number out there just light out of Vince william yeah he was a beast be dub um when you got he was asking about brett and like i just wonder because there were so many vets when you got in there and like when we got in the league because what was your first year 11 was that the lockout year yes yeah so like you came at the cusp of like like when the NFL changed to me because like, you know, when I got in the league, there were so many vets. And, you know, I know a good organization like yours, like there were a ton of good vets that had played a lot of good ball.

And I wonder, with all those vets, who was the nicest and most friendly to rookies? And then who was the biggest asshole? Who was the biggest? Oh, man. You know, you're star-struck. Because, like, I grew up in Pittsburgh. Like, I was born in Pittsburgh. So when I got to Pittsburgh, I was like, my brother, you know,

my little brother had a Troy Paul Molo fathead in his room. And I was like, that's weird. He might be over the house. So when I got here, I think Troy might have been the nicest. Troy, like, that's baby Jesus. Like, he is, there's nothing he can do that's wrong. And it's just, you know, he comes up to you, Hey, Cam, how you doing?

You know, pleasure to meet you. But then Troy tells jokes on top of it, you know. And like, Troy's one of those people that's not really funny, but it is funny at the same time, just because it's Troy. You know, he always tells his joke, let me tell you a joke, and he goes, Cam Hayward. And I'm just like, bro. I'm just like... He's the dad jokes, bro.

Yeah, oh, he's full of dad jokes. Let me tell you a joke. Cam Hayward. So I guess he was the asshole and the good guy rolled in a one, but I was going to say Joey Porter might be minus 200 to be the asshole. Just from the story I've heard. Peasy's cool. Like, you know, Peezy welcomes everybody and is usually the loudest one in the room.

So, you know. That's how I am. He was an asshole. The loudest one of the room. The friends with everybody in the locker. Exactly. Exactly. You need guys like that.

And now you're playing with his son, which is crazy. And like, that's insane. And the whole thing of like. Yeah. That's what I heard. And then like you, you be in second generation and him being second generation and you crossing paths. Like, how have you been able to help him with that whole deal, the pressure of it?

And it's the same damn team for both of you guys. Yeah. You know, for us, it's weird because, like, I remember when JJ would just show up to camp and just be at camp, just walking around, running around in a golf cart. And so seeing him now, he's a lot more prepared than people realize. Like, you know, just being around it. And I think when you get these. second generation guys like us. I think it's not like, you know, we get enamored by, you know,

the stuff that doesn't matter. It's, we love ball. We just want to play ball. And, you know, we want to prove it. I think that's been the main thing because we've always been in the shadows of, you know, our dads. And so it's like, man, I got to, I got to settle on this course for myself. No question. I think like one thing that always drove me crazy was like people just just saying, hey, well, it's all talent with you because your dad played. I'm like, it's Combine Week, man. Look at some of these defensive ends, bro. The way they're testing.

Like, you want to talk about freaks. We're freaks, but we're not the biggest freaks in the league. I think, you know, and especially with you having a different body type than your dad. And, you know, a lot of guys are that way. Like, I think it's about the mental makeup. I think it's, you know, like, just for better or for worse, you're not, like you said, enamored with it. You don't think your shit doesn't stink because you can go home and there's somebody at home

that's better than you, you know, for a while. in your case. But, you know, like, we had dads that played, and I think we were subjected to pressure that made us better. Yeah, you know, I was just talking to somebody, and, you know, the things my son's going to have to deal with as he grows up, it's like, you know, everybody's going to be trying you just because you're my son. And, you know, that's just the way it is.

You always have a target on your back, and I like it that way. Like, you learn to embrace that part. Yeah, you certainly do. And so talking about these young guys, who are you excited to see play next year? You know, take that second year jump or maybe a second, third year guy. I know you've got, you know, Herbig's really exciting. Benton, you've probably taken him under your wing. There's a bunch of young, exciting dudes on that team. Who can you not wait to see play next year? I think you hit the nail around on it. You look at Keanu Benton and you look at Nick Herbig. You know, my Wisconsin brother, We got a lot of those dudes these days. But, you know, to be a rookie in play D-Line, I think Benton's got a high ceiling.

You know, he uses his hands well. He's able to move well. Still things he's getting used to, but he's ahead of the game. And then Herbie, he just, he provides splash. Like, you know, it didn't feel like there wasn't a time he was in there. He was making a big play. Yeah. And, you know, I just, him learning from TJ is always going to be big.

You got TJ and Alex. So to have a three-headed monster like that at the outside linebacker position is crazy in our league. The first guy I asked you about when we talked at the Super Bowl and we caught up a little bit was, was, you know, highsmith's importance because I think he is just way overlooked on a national media scale. And, you know, overshadowed by TJ, understandably. But this guy can absolutely play it. I know he didn't go to the Pro Bowl, but this guy was a beast this year. How important is he to your defense and how much do you enjoy watching him rush opposite T.J.? You know, I think with T.J.

You always look at it and say he's Superman, but I'm like, you know, Highsmith is Batman. And you get those guys off the edge, and they create a lot of habit. You know, it's funny because, you know, TJ's not the one who wants to drop. And Alex never really dropped in college, but Alex has got so many picks and they're so crisp in how he drops. It's insane. So like we always say, keep catching them like that. They're just going to make you the drop in from here and out.

You don't want to drop one of those picks. Or run down the seam when you're supposed to be hook curl. Yeah. Just, just fuck it up, man. That's what I would do. That's what I would do. I think what's so interesting about your division is it's so physical,

but there are three different challenges. Like the schemes, the run schemes, the sort of things like, you know, when you see Cleveland, you're going to see, you know, big physical dudes. You're going to see some gap scheme. You're going to see an athletic quarterback and Lamar. Joe's going to get that ball out.

Like, do you find yourself changing the way you play in each of those matchups? Yeah. You know, with Baltimore, it's such a heavy dose of run. And, you know, that's why I was kind of annoyed when they played this, the KC. It was like, you go to the run game every single game. But the second you put it. play Patrick Mahomes, you decide to shrivel up and not be yourself. Right.

You didn't mind that, though, I'm sure. I didn't care either way. So you don't root against those guys? Yeah, if it was possible, you might be able to be it. Yeah. I just went to end where they can't go and they got to bring on another team. Mm-hmm. But then you look at like Cleveland, and it's a heavy dose of run and play action.

They do a great job of, you know, getting their wide receivers. some good spots. And then, you know, for whatever reason this year, Cincinnati became more of a passing team. It went away from the mix and runs and, you know, Jamar Chase, T. Higgins, Tyler Boyd, those guys are special. So it's more of a passing spread-off type of game when you play them. What's the big difference inside when you play a team that goes gun run a lot versus the team that, you know, is under center and maybe some of the angles? Man, I think when you play Baltimore, it's just like you're in a three-four structure

almost the entire game. And, you know, you're worried about that fullback who's 300 pounds over there record. You're having to, you know, our outside linebackers have to cut him down as soon as possible. But then you look at like the spread offense, and you look at, you know, you're usually in a two and a three. And, you know, if you stop him on first down

and they don't get any yards, you're setting your hair on fire at that point. You're really just, you're playing a track, attract me for the most part, and, you know, on your way to the run. So it's definitely different in our league, but, you know, you got to be prepared for the run, you know, for the long term. Do you have one game that you remember in Division that was the most physical one? I mean, I have them in the NFC West. I remember one game in particular with the Niners

when they had all those dudes and Seattle had all those dudes. It was physical, but this is a fucking, I mean, this is a washing machine. FC North. Do you remember one game that it was like, oh my God? You know, there was a stretch in the Baltimore series where it just felt like we were playing Navy and it was just triple option. And so it was just, oh, either to dive up the middle or we're going to flip it. Like, you know, and you just, it was like we played them and then the worst part of battle is we played them again in another two weeks. And so it was just like, you know, it was like, you know, we're other. It's just like we're going to keep beating on each other until one of us blinks.

How about O-line, Kyle? Let's talk O-Line. I want to hear this from both of you guys. Cam, first. Who do you think is the best O-Line in the league? Best O-Line League? Oh, man, I don't even want to give anybody credit. I know. Maybe not anybody in this. I was going to ask you about a player, like, you know, who is an O-Lignment in the league that maybe deserves more credit? You don't have to fucking crown him, Cam. But you can say, hey, you know, this young guy from X, Y, Z does a good job at this. I don't think we give enough credit

to Marshall Yonda. Yeah, dude, he was amazing. Yeah. Bro. He could play center, guard, tackle, and the scout in every position. Yeah, he was a beating. Played with the nastiness and, like, you know, I didn't like talking about Baltimore, but like, that

was a dude who was like, okay, you better bring a hard at because that dude can go all over the place. Unorthodox pass set really would get on you and use his hands well. He moved laterally really well. I got a funny story about Yonda, So my first time with the Pro Bowl, I'm riding the bus. And I'm like the last guy on the bus.

And there's no seats except for one next to Marshall Yonda. And I didn't know Marshall Yonda at the time, like as a person. I didn't know how he was. And I sat next to and I was like, hey, Mr. Yonda, big fan. He's like, nice to meet you. You know, nice to meet you. Yeah, he's like, you know, he's got his hard hat and his lunchtime. Dude, he'd happy.

He said, do you mind just not talking to me before the game? He said, I know you're excited to be here, kid. but do you mind not talking to me before the game? And it worked? And it was great. Oh, I got to try that. It worked well. Can you not talking to me before the show?

You got a big more. He comes in here with his cup of coffee. He's just a ball of energy. I'm like, ugh. I got to try the Yonda thing. But yeah, Yonda was great. Yonda was, God, he was great. Yeah, and the thing about playing Yonda was like you'd feel that last shove all the time.

That uncomfortable, like, just like the echo of the whistle that makes you feel like you have to disengage and if you disengage and even if he's not on you he might find you you know like he's always around the pile either you lean on him or he's going to lean on you it's a lean fast dude it's a last shove fest with that guy rob ninkovit said it he goes when i had to play marshal yonda and he was playing tackle he was so unorthodox he was better than any tackle i played and i think that happens a lot with guards that move outside because they're so different they're used to being in a phone booth um let's talk about right now man like i was I was on the bandwagon all year cheering you guys on, standing on couches in our live watch studio.

I was a big Steelers fan. And then you guys hit that bump in the road, man. And, you know, the indie game I felt like was like, man, the bottom just fell out. Because I was putting myself in y'all's shoes. And, you know, you feel like the season's on the line. And it was so hard to get a stop. I felt helpless watching because it was like they were just moving it. How did you climb out of that hole?

because the whole country left you all for dead after that game. You know, I think that was a stretch we went, lost to A-Z, lost to New England, and lost to the Colts. And so, man, you know, it's easy to think, like, the sky is falling, but I think you just kind of just reel it in. And just you single it. You say, dude, we got one game.

and kind of just lock in on that. But we definitely don't make it easy on ourselves. It was rough those three games. And, man, looking back, I wish we really could have took advantage of that opportunity. Hey, so from the outside looking at, I work at CBS on Sundays, and we got to cover, you know, we got to talk about all these hot button things. And sometimes I was asked to talk about avoid an offensive leadership in Pittsburgh. As a defensive leader in that locker room, at what point?

point do you take it upon yourself to say, I got to cross the, what is it, the party line here and go talk to this offensive group because, you know, they respect a guy like you. Yeah, you know, I think, you know, I won't relate to any one point, but there were times I had to go across and, you know, just have conversations. And I think, you know, it wasn't just me. There was other guys. And because at the end of the day, you don't want it just to be, oh, the offense is losing your games. It's the team that's losing your games. And, you know, My name is on that. And so I felt like I owned some of that responsibility.

And so it's more than just one guy. It's more of what do we got to do to get this right? And, you know, holding each other accountable, letting the offense grow. You know, it's tough because you lose Kenny for that chunk of games. And then you're trying to put Mitch and then Mason. And so in that, you lose some stability at the quarterback position. And so luckily, Mason got it going late and, you know, really opened up the offense because, you know, from the quarterback position, not having that foundation to really lean on when, you know, Kenny got hurt. And I think we were 7 and 3 at the time.

Yeah. But we were still doing a lot and, you know, injuries and inconsistent play. Well, I had to tell you two of the guys I love watching the most on that offense are, you know, George Pickens and, you know, Jaylon Warren. I guess I'll start with George. I know he had that stretch where people were on his ass a little bit about finishing and that sort of thing. And, you know, like there are plays

where maybe if you caught me on film, you'd be like, you know what I'm saying? And I'm sure Cam, as hard as he plays, sometimes you could run harder. I mean, but, you know, you've got to reinforce that effort and that maturity, and I thought he responded really well. And I loved

when he was on the sideline, I was ranting about this on the show, and He was doing, I can't hear you thing. And I wish I could have been like, George, you did hear everybody. Like, that's why you just went for 200, brother. What went into that for him? You know, I think George is young. And so the way we live now and everybody's affected by social media

and everybody's, you know, locked into what a reporter has said or what the media is going with, it's just, you know, we tell him we're riding with you, dude. like and you know it might not be pretty shoot we all mess up like yeah like we just bounce back from it and you know once you go out there and just show them something else it's like oh now we're back in good graces so you know it's just like bro we're never going to turn on you it's just we just want you to be great he can be great man and jelan warren to me he seems like a little bit of that archetypical stealer you know and i i love the guy and he seems like he does and says

all the right things, and I wonder, can he be one of those offensive leaders? Is he already? You know, I think the young Jailor Warren, you say he's just, you know, he's getting ready for his opportunities. But I think having a real balance between both him and Najee and them both understanding that we need both them to be on top of their games and we need both of them to ask a lot of each other, that allows for them to challenge each other. And I think, you know, each one of them makes each other better.

I feel like when you look at our running back position, I hate teams that have more than one running back that can dominate a game as opposed to one running back where we tire you're out, you're done. Yeah, no question. And the different cuts that you have to anticipate as somebody who's playing two gaps at times and you have different blocking combinations because you might see more gap scheme with one guy. when Justice Hill came on this year for Baltimore, and even more so, that really fast kid that got hurt,

I can't remember his name. It's like two months ago, Keaton Mitchell. You know, like it throws different looks at you. It, like, really unsettles you. Yeah, and then they can stay, you know, healthy through the entire game, and you get to the fourth quarter, you're like, shoot, I don't know what to expect at this point. But if you have one guy, it's like, we'll get used to you.

We'll lock in and, you know, we'll get you down. All right. So you're talking to two dudes, two old dudes that have dealt with groin and adductor and hip flexors and all that stuff. I know that you've been going through it and you've went through it and you've come back and played football. And I saw one of your tweets. You know, you wanted to remind you're going to remind these fans.

What are you doing this offseason to prepare your body to remind the fans? Because we know how tough dealing with that midsection, that core, that groin can be. Dude, first of all, I'm just getting healthy. Like this past year was literally the one of the worst years I've had just from a health standpoint. You know, first tearing my adductor and dealing with that and trying to come back, trying to run was stupid as hell. I look like an idiot. Can't lift your knee up, but you can't pick your leg up.

Yeah. And so it would just get to a certain point and be like, ah, I can't run anymore. You know, and now I'm just getting healthy. You know, I want to get back to my Pilates again and get going from there. Do they make a reformer big enough for you? Yes. I just hate spreading my legs because I just don't feel comfortable in that position. Exposed, bro. You feel like my conto position. I feel like I have stirrups or something. Yeah, exactly. What's up, Cam? I have a question about your podcast, not just football with Cam.

How hard was it managing and recording that podcast in season? I don't think it's that bad. You know, I like to think I'm pretty organized with my time. So when it came to like, you know, we would do it every either Monday or Tuesday, you know, earlier in the week if we had like a Thursday game. But it doesn't get too tough. I think the funniest part is like people think like I can't have anything to do besides football. Yes. You know, they expect me to just be a robot all the time.

It's like I can't talk about the game that you guys want to talk about. Right. Why do you like, you see guys sitting courtside at basketball games or going to hockey games or baseball games or posting things they're doing on their buy week or whatever but like you're taking an hour out of your week you know like there is a point of diminishing return with work anyways you got to find some things to like stimulate i play call of duty for four hours a night like yeah dudes are game you can take an hour to record kailer's yeah and i'm usually bitching about something so you know i get on there and i get to vent about it it's cathartic dude for every good for everybody

and it's good for the fans because they get to know people that's the you know like that's the cool thing that's going to take. You want to talk about us making more money, the salary cap going up and stuff. You know, like the more players get, you know, ingratiate themselves with the fans, but more than anything, just like break the wall down a little bit. Yeah. The more, the more

it's good for business. Like, you know, we wear face masks. We need to date more superstars. Who got on that Steelers roster that's a bachelor that we can pitch to maybe do a Lippa or something? Make a Fitzpatrick. Okay. Okay. That's an easy sell. His tape is great. That's a great. That's a great. That's a

Great tape, dude. Great tape. Hey, and Nate, you got something in common with Cam, I think. Yeah, Cam. I've been trying to get these guys to get on the Love is Blind train. Bro. Right. So, listen, I have a question for you.

Do you think Chelsea put the biggest finesse in Love is Blind history by saying people say I look like Megan Fogg? Oh, I saw that. That's so crazy. Bro, the show was predicated literally on not. Not knowing what someone looks like. Her scouting profile said I look like Megan Fogg. No, she said that people say I look like Megan Fogg. That's like getting a Brady comp and you can't even throw it out.

Oh, man, poor Jimmy. Poor Jimmy. She finessed Jimmy. Okay. Okay, okay. Let me break this down. First of all, she didn't even say Megan Fox. This is how she finessed it.

She goes, yeah, I'm like Megan, I'm like MGK's girlfriend or wife. And it's like, he's like, Megan Fox? And so he's like, You walked him into that? Yeah. Oh, my goodness. And the other girl was like, you will be kicking yourself. Like, he was like, he was like, I'm just telling you.

She doesn't look like that. I need to watch this. Bro, this show is just gold. It's gold. And another question, do you think any of these relationships, like, will stand the test of time? Before we get there, I just got to say the other finesse was, it was one more finesse. because they didn't show it in the show

but then they went back and they started giving like behind the scene stuff. They said Jimmy looked like Christian McCafferty. Oh, no, no, no, no. So I was like kind of thrown off of that. I'm like, man, people out here lying and scamming in the show.

That's crazy. Oh, man. But if I can address your question, you know, when I look at this show, it's just, it's a train wreck, bro. It's a, it's a, it's a, train, right? Like, the only couple I think that might have a chance

is, what is there? It's Johnny and Amy. Okay. And I think the only thing that's weird, the dude's like, well, you got to stay on the birth control and I'm like, bro, you got to strap up. Oh, yeah, my guy. You got to do your half. Yeah. That is so

that is so funny, bro. I just was literally watching that seed. So the premise is just like blind dating? Yeah, you don't see the person, you have a week to basically find someone you want to propose to. Like, you're having all these blind dates. So there's a wall between you at the table.

Yes. So you're walking, the girls are walking in the door. You can just hear their voice. You can just hear their voice until you're still away. Yeah, it's Stevie Wonder speed dating. Yes. Exactly. Okay.

See, that's good, Chris. Stevie might not be, though, really, though, actually. I've heard a lot of stories about Stevie driving golf carts and shit. Like, Shaq said, Shaq said he walked on an elevator one. time. Stevie Wonder looked up and said, Shaq. Like, how, dude?

Dude, have you seen the greatest night and pop? No. Okay, so there's a part in there. Oh, I heard about it, though. This is, like, back in the day. Yeah, so, like, there's Stevie Wonder in,

is it Ray Charles? I think it was Ray Charles was there. And so, Ray Charles said he had to go to the bathroom, and Steve was a wonder was like, I'll take you. And then somebody was like, it's the blind leading the blind. They end up in the kitchen. Somebody's pissing in the casserole.

Oh, my God, dude. I got to watch this show, man. Love is blind. When does it come on? Bro, I'm telling you, like, you'll binge it. You'll be like, holy stuff. So I can get it on my smart TV. I can just pull it up.

Yes. Okay, me and my wife are going to watch it. Here's the crazy thing. I feel like they could bring that show to Charlottesville for sure. Oh, let's do it. Bro, they need to do it with athletes and just watch everybody, like, hype up. Yes, dude. I run a four three.

Yeah. Yeah. Someone said I look like T.J. Watt. It's like Ryan Jensen. I have a six-packed. Good morning. Hey. Hey, Cam Hayward, man.

Come back again, dude. We love talking to you. Hey, dude, so much respect for you. I'm so happy for you. When I saw you at Kelsey's party, I was just like, there he is. It couldn't have happened to a better guy, dude. And welcome to the club, I guess. It feels weird for me to say that to you,

because you are, you are, you exemplify the award, my dude. Appreciate that, you know. I'm honored to be a part of the club and honor you guys even have me on the show to that. Dude, anytime, anytime. Good luck. Go get him next year, bro. Get that ad doctor right. Yes, sir.

And we'll talk about love is blind another time. Sounds good. All right, bro. Appreciate it, guys. Yeah, take it easy. Do you guys remember this? Cliff, what are you going to take away is your best memory from playing basketball, Boston College?

Yeah. Yeah. Probably just like going on to eat. Oh. That hit me right in the fields. Me too. What do you think really happened there? Did we ever get an explanation of what happened there?

Yeah, I think we got an honest answer from Dennis Clifford. It's called camaraderie. Shout out to BC. BC Cup, Virginia. in the dance as of now last night. Virginia had something to do with it too. A lot of basketball tweets on my timeline right now. But I thought about that cat.

Cam Hayward, terrific interview. Awesome. Asked what my favorite part was. What was your favorite part? The middle. The middle. My favorite part was when Nate asked him about that thing. Oh, yeah.

Love is blind. Love is blind. Incredible. There's two shows Nate's going to have me watching. The Chimp Empire and Love is Blind. I promise you you're going to love Empire, bro. It's really a reality TV show.

Yes. All right, I'm going to ask some combine questions. I'll spray them around, you know, but I'll start with you. Chris. Are you ready? Yes, sir. If you were a speed limit sign, what would your miles per hour be? Slow, children playing.

Okay. Just at your own discretion, slow. How many women have you slept with? In college, what I would do usually would be leave and walk home. What would you say to a group of deaf people? That's a good response. All right. Would you have time today to discuss our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ?

Meg, someone's here to see you. Who all seen the leprechaun say yeah? Yeah. All right, thank you for your time. Really well done. Yeah, very good. All right, I think you did well. Thank you.

We'll see you out there. Kyle and Nate, fuck Mary, kill, Faith family football. Kill. Anyone trying to touch any of those things. Okay.

I'm hoping facts may actually answer the question. Facts. I'm going to... Oh, this is at the combine? Yeah. Yeah. I take drug test this guy. I would

It's really easy It's an easy answer It's an easy fucking answer kid I would Did you celebrate Halloween Football marry my family Kill Faith

Faith I would kill Yeah I would kill Faith And I would I would say I go to the church Of football So they're one of the same

I love that These guys are really fucking dumb. You asked, we put us in the same room together. He didn't even know we were at the combine just a minute ago. Chris, do you have an answer to the question? Yeah, you got to. You got to kill football. You got to faith family and football?

I think you got to kill. I think you have to kill football. I hate to say this, but it's Mary Faith. Merry Faith. Fuck football and kill family. Wow. Because, Coach, you're not going to have to worry about my family. Wow.

I don't have a family. Consider my family, Kevin Bacon and Hollow Man. Fellas, in two words, please describe yourselves. Kyle Long. That made me laugh. Football player. Okay. Very hungry.

Oh. He is high. He's got so high. Okay. All right. Any other rainbusters? Kyle Long, another one for you. Do you like your mom?

or your dad better? Man, that's a tough one. I know the answer. Go ahead. He likes dad a lot. Now, he needs mom. I like mom better because dad reminds me too. I remind myself and he reminds me of too much.

We just piss each other off in that. Like, we get along so well, but then it's like when it's wrong, man, it's like, I'm out. He's at the combine. Okay. Are you in or are you out on an all-transparent toilet? I'm in. I did show my wife this. She is out.

Coach. I'm in. It's like the old game boy. It makes it very easy to see when clogs and stuff are happening. Coach, when you lose a game or when you have a bad game and that will happen in this league, you got to flush it. Now, you can't just flush it and not examine what went wrong. You got to be able to see the shit, coach. You got to be able to see how the plumbing's work.

We want everybody to see the shit. That's what Monday morning meetings are about. So yeah, I want a transparent toilet. I'm a transparent toilet type of course. I don't believe in toilets. I think we just go on the ground because we've got to keep it real natural around here. We don't want to be anybody that God didn't intend us to be.

We're actually not even going to wear cleats anymore. I actually think we shit on the ground. I think we shit on the ground to intimidate the other team. Take them to the outhouse. That's not what he said first. He wanted a clear toilet. Say the elevator you're in starts to free fall from a survivable height. No, I like this question.

What is the best body position? to be in for impact. Below your CEO with your CEO on top of you so you can keep them alive. No, I was going to say on top of someone else. Hmm.

All right. All right. Player D.L. 37. Handstand. Ah, ha, ha. I like the cut of your gym. Thank you. 17.

Like raiding, yo. For Mortal Kombat. I will literally die for you. you. This guy is sucking you off, Coach. Do cucumbers taste better pickled? Yes. No.

They're not cucumbers if they're pickled. Coach, I want to get sodium in my diet, but not that way. They're not cucumbers anymore, Coach. Let me ask you a question. Do you even know what a pickle is? I've got you in one right now. I'm not drafting this guy. At all, dude.

At all. This guy was just frankly weird. What was talking about? Yeah. He came here with hair on his head. He's shaved his head. It's a pickle. It's a little longer.

He's shaved his head and is being combating. You're disguising cover, too. All right. Y'all did real well. Okay. Thank you guys. I got a question for Kyle. Participating.

Hey, well, I'll start with Nate. What book had the most significant impact on your life? The Catcher in the Rye. Hmm. Why? Holden Caulfield. It's a good book. Didn't read it.

Character. I, hey. He didn't read it. Hey, Coach, you didn't read it. Hey, Kyle, I got a question for you. Sparknotes.com. Would you rather be a genius with a micropenus or be relatively slow but just have a... I'm caught somewhere in between there.

I can't speak to from experience on either one end of the spectrum. I would rather probably be a micropine gene. Yeah, for sure. Micropeen gene. Yeah. Wow. You pay for some sort of penis augmentation. I just pay for a bunch of NDAs.

Making best non-traditional investment of capital. Real estate. Non-traditional. Bitcoin. I'm thinking along the lines of like purses. Bitcoin. Not Bitcoin. Your wife goes into labor.

Commercial real estate. All right. Well. Used to be a great sport. What? Clitchy as hell now, yeah. College sports generally. Wait till you hear about youth sports

They're the best All right guys Have a great weekend Yeah that's good Kyle Have a great weekend We will see you next week On Monday We have a former GM

One of my favorite guys We're going to talk about the combine And Honey Bobo will be back Talk about edge defenders Peace Peace