Green Light with Chris Long - Cardinals To Cover Vs 49ers, Bears vs Cowboys & Rams vs Eagles | NFL WK3 Best Bets

Episode Date: September 18, 2025

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For the life of me, I don't know why San Francisco, there's so many people on San Francisco. There's so many people on San Francisco. I don't understand it. Can you help me understand it? No. I'll take the Arizona Cardinals. Give me the Browns. That's hilarious.

Suck it, make it. That's hilarious. He's just like he got a freaking IV. Just look at him. He's sitting up in the seat. It's time for his pick. You know what? I don't know where he was the last 45 minutes.

I'll throw in a zone. Now he's ready. Welcome to the Green Light Podcast. It's an. NFL week three best bets. Stanford, Steve, Chris, and make and run through the slate, pick their favorite gambling picks of the week. Also talk a little college football. Debo shows up, Brent Pry, a little UVA Stanford as we talk all the football that's happening this weekend. Enjoy it. Come back tomorrow for our week three NFL previews. See you then.

They make it's hate week. That's right. Fuck you, Steve. Stanford Steve, more like, fuck you, Steve. Yeah, that's true. Screw off. Yeah, screw off. It's Virginia in Stanford, 730 Saturday night in Charlottesville.

Right, right, right, right. ACC Prime. That's right. The Cardinals coming off a win. So are the Wahoo. Monster win. Steve, will you be here? I will not make it, guys.

I will not be there. I'm down here in Coral Gables from Miami, Florida. I will have the Cardinal on a tablet. Maybe stay up way too late last week, but I don't know how many Ws there are on there. If there are any more Ws on the schedule. So we had to stay up and get that one home against the BC. He goes, Chris, think about that.

Worst flights, BC, after a night game flying home. BC was on the West Coast. Yeah, a conference game. BC was 16 point favorite. What time was the game? One of your like 8 p.ms? 10.30 Easter. 10.30.

You have to stay overnight, don't you? Absolutely. Football coaches never do. Because they want to get home. They want to get home. If it were about the players, they'd spend the money on a hotel and get us a solid night's sleep, but they always fly us home.

I mean, that's getting home at like 10 a.m. East Coast. Yeah, it totally fucks your week up. Whoever BC plays this week. Maybe bet that team. Yeah, okay. Well, that would actually be fair. What's the line? How many points are we laying?

About 40? 15. 15 or 16? Nice. I can get used to this. And listen to this. Where are you guys? You guys are like top five in the country in offense, right?

Well, consider the opponents. We haven't given up a sack. Doesn't matter. It's pretty good. Yeah. We're wearing white lids, Navy, jersey's Navy pants for perhaps the first time ever. Interesting. Not great, but it is different.

And different these days is... What's your favorite? Not the all orange. Don't say all orange. Oh, God, no. At home? Yeah. What a great question.

I like the old white lid with just the orange and blue stripe, no logo. And then the white pant with the same orange and blue stripe. And I don't care if the jersey is orange or blue. Just give me that. I like the all white. I like the book. Let's talk football. All right.

Steve, welcome, you know, welcome to this show, first and foremost. I noticed you said you're in Coral Gables. Now, are you sure? Because you could be in Highalea, Fort Lauderdale, Pembroke Pines, Hollywood, Miramar, Coral Springs, all of these Miami. Miami Gardens, don't forget about that. Papineau Beach, West Palm Beach, Davy, Bocca Raton, sunrise, plantation, yikes, Miami Beach,

Deerfield Beach, Boiton Beach, Lauder Hill, Doral, or Homestead. No, that's not Miami. Where are you actually located? We are in Coral Gables right now. That's right near Miami. Golly day. Not even Miami.

Stadium, I believe, is in Miami Gardens. It is. About an hour away? Hotel after the game is in Avenue. insurer, which is way up north. Flying out of Waterdale. Golly, dude. It's done.

I can't. I can't. Your settlement for fuck's sake. You have to do it here. It's so bad. A four mile, a four mile Uber was like 32 minutes and

over $30. You're going to be sweating your ass off like Michael Irvin Saturday night. Irv. Yeah. And you gotta wear dark colors on TV because of sweat. Yeah, no question.

And that's a problem. If we see you on TV and you're caked in sweat, just know we're watching. Steve, did you rank Miami number one in the country this week because you're in Miami? Two-parter. Is Mario Cristobal a good enough coach to win a national championship.

And before you say yes, why don't you think about it for a second? My goal is to get Chris Long to watch more college football. And it starts right here with this team that I rank number one, and that's Miami. They have some absolute studs on this defense. They have two NFL defensive ends. They got two good defensive tackles. They got a linebacker in Passaint, 31, who's an absolute destroyer. just going through the tape.

I think it was play 4, 5, 8, 9, 12, 13. I mean, bodies on the floor for South Florida. I mean, just guys giving up themselves, D.Ns, wrong arm and pullers and then taking out the next puller. I mean, just bodies on the ground, which you don't see a lot anymore with how spread the game is, but absolute destruction. As physical defense, as I've seen,

and the speed is there too. And Beck looks great on offense. My biggest question for them coming in the year was they lost their top six pass catchers. And they got some guys through the portal. And they got a couple freshmen that can absolutely go. A couple of running backs that are really good. They are legit in playing like the best team in the country. And to your point about, Cristobal, I believe yes.

He surrounded himself with assistance, made a move at defensive coordinator. Got a guy in Corey Heatherman, who's, you could. just see it when you watch them. He has simplified everything. There's no exotic zero blitzes. There's no all these heavy pressures. They play defense and they have superior talent. And it's a pleasure to watch how physical and fast they are. And that's why I rank them number one. And who would you say it is Miami is playing on Saturday? The Florida Gators. Florida Gators at one and two under Billy Napier. Do they have a chance in hell? I believe they do.

I mean, the cool thing about this game, and Chris, you played in the league with plenty of guys from Florida is how all these guys know each other. All these guys know who went where on their visits and what they were thinking and who got what. And it's a big time rivalry. It means a lot, these state, in-state games when you're talking about Florida, Miami, Florida State,

UCF, USF, all of them. So I think there's enough pride here. Florida, if Lagway doesn't throw five, like if he throws three picks, can they win? Like, they're in that game. Their defense played phenomenal in the toughest environment, I think, in the sport. And when you watch Florida last week, they got their NFL detackle back Caleb Banks, but then he didn't finish the game. If they don't have him, they're going to struggle because Miami's O,

the combination of Miami's O line and D line is the best pair in the country. That's another reason I have them rank one. I expect a total fight from Florida. You know, I mentioned Lagway with five picks. You'll lose 20 to 10 to a really, really good LSU team. So they're up against it again. We know the pressure that Napier's on, but his team hasn't, he hasn't lost his team.

And I expected them to hang in this game. And Chris, this game will feature six former Virginia Cavaliers. That's about, that's where the Venn diagram crosses over for me with college football. awareness is his reading that mike green was once a virginia cavalier r j harvey was once a virginia cavalier did you say the motherfucker sellers was a virginia cellars wasn't charlottesville what what was he doing here on campus yes what was taking classes did he just commit he just yeah yeah he was a commit and then decommitted okay sorry but it counts it's close did you guys hear about texas tech they're going to keep tossing these tortillas yeah did you hear this the fucking

conference votes votes it down 15 to 1 and they don't care they're like no we're going to keep throwing these tortillas Lubbock does not care they don't give a shit I thought they tossed like batteries at people tortillas you should be happy they're tossing tortillas Miami's only a seven and a half point favorite undefeated number four at home prime time against a one and two club I like gators too yeah see on it yeah yeah watch out it's the same spread as last week and now against a more balanced team. Tells you what the boys in the desert think of the gators. Careful.

Steve, do you have anything against the APs second-ranked team, the Penn State Nittany Lions? I can't even look down far enough to find where you placed them this week. I think I had them six or seven. You son of a bitch. I obviously giving credit to people that have played tough out-of-conference games and started their conference schedule already. The Big Ten has not done that.

The Big Ten has not tried to do that. But we're in it now. Penn State's on a buy this week. They get Oregon next week, which is an absolute monster game. I pick Penn State to win the national title before the season, and I still feel good about it. I just worry when you watch Oregon now

and you see what Penn State has put on tape, you haven't done anything to face adversity. and you know you're going to face it when you play a team as good as Oregon. And that's what I would worry about. Now, I know Penn State people are just through the wall happy that they got a whiteout for the Oregon game because they think they could beat, you know, the Eagles in a whiteout. So I want to see more. They haven't been crisp offensively.

If you didn't get a chance, go watch the part two of bad beat sort of Villanova kid makes. Oh, I meant to ask you guys, he was from somewhere. That was unbelievable. Unreal, right? I'm in on college football in this instance. That was an incredible beat. Binkowski, he's Villanova kid. It's Key Market.

You ever heard of that, Virginia? Yeah, Key Market. Are you talking about Haymarket or Key Market? Maybe Haymarket. Yeah, we don't. Where is that? No way you buy Keys. Hey Markets.

Hey Markets, Nova. Hey Markets, Prince William County. That's up by you, Big Dog. Yeah. Oh. Really? I thought that fucking Villanova quarterback would have like Cam Ward in the final seconds.

That was unbelievable. And you know everybody had bet pay. Hey, market, yeah. Yeah, hey market. Brandon Mikowski, give him the Cochlin Award for that catch. Okay. Oh, wow. That was incredible.

That was a quarter of this segment. Okay, I have a question for both of you. We just knocked it out in half a second. I have a question for both of you, guys, okay? and it relates to last week's Georgia Tech Clemson game and the coaches. And something commendable Steve did this week was ranked Georgia Tech 11th. And my question for you guys is, what makes a good college football coach?

Because we've seen two examples here in this conference of interims who end up working out. So what is Brent Key doing right to have the rambling wreck rolling at three and a They have Temple this week. And he just squared off against the guy who's been the dean of the conference, also a former interim. And Dabo Sweeney, who has some comments we can discuss. Our friends down in Blacksburg, they got to hire a coach now. Yeah. About a head football coach.

Yeah. What are you looking for? You have friends there? And a head college football coach? Um, I don't know anymore. The sport is in ruins. Is it how? You know, every year you got to, it's, you're not, you're not.

Like, are you developing talent anymore? You're not developing talent. You don't have to be a talent developer anymore. You really just have to be a guy now in today's college football landscape. From the outside looking in, guys, I get to be the dummy on college football. But it seems to me like it's you have to, at an accelerated pace, get everybody in the same page once a year and have a great system. And I don't know, be a motivator and a recruiter. But what's the point?

I mean, like, you don't get to develop anybody. everybody's gone. Yeah. It's just interesting because this guy, Brinkie, was on anybody's radar. Just got the interim

tag. No, and Georgia Tech's not supposed to be some big program, but I have at least seen him coach a few games and I like him. And the players like him.

They really play for him. Relatable. Yeah, well, I guess there is a chance like in college football if you're just not a phony, you're going to stand out

because I feel like there's a lot of college football coaches who are phonies. Is this a segue into Clemson? Well, sure. And Steve can weigh in on what makes a good college football coach. I'm starting to think that you have to be able to read the future because you have no idea who's going to be on your team.

And this idea of recruiting has totally changed. I'm sure you guys are doing it there, but like at Stanford, we hire Andrew Luck. He's the GM. He takes care of all that stuff, just so Frank Wright could focus on the X's and O's in the team. but when you get into this idea of recruiting, the majority of the time,

you're re-recruiting guys on your team right now to stay on your team. Like, you know how old that must get? Steve. Everybody on the outside should keep trying to come in. So it's a, it feels very thankless. I got a question. Where do guys go back to anymore?

If they played on three, four teams, do they pick it? Do they pick, you know, are they, I'm an alum of this school. Like, you just cherry pick which one. Like, that to me is like, that was the best part of college football. I know it's easy for me to say, like, because I was able to make my money and get drafted and guys need to make money now. They need to switch schools.

I get it. But, like, where do guys go? Like, where's your allegiance anymore? Do you lose, like, being an alum? Like, do you, are there, what happens to college football reunions in 20 years? Brennan Armstrong, former Virginia quarterback, transferred to NC State, and comes back here and hangs out on the sidelines. No, that's cool. I mean, I guess you pick a place that you were there the longest.

Or maybe it's the last stop. Maybe it's the last stop. Current Virginia quarterback Chandler Morris has played at Oklahoma, TCU, North Texas, and Virginia. You know what, it is kind of fun, though, to be able to pick and choose year to year, which, like, ah, this year I went to LSU. Well, in the Sunday night football intros. Oh yeah, yeah. You might as well just make it up Hard Knox University.

Chandler Morris, Oklahoma, TCU, North Texas, Virginia. Where was Camp Ward before Miami was Washington State? And then before there? Incarnate Word. Incarnate Word. I thought he was at like one of these sacrament schools.

Blessed Sacrament type thing. Incarnate Word, same thing. You got it. Yeah. Cam Ward, Incarnate Word. incarnate ward okay stop me whenever you like oh i like that yeah

dabbo said these things hey listen if clemson's tired of winning they can send me on my way but i'm gonna go somewhere else and coach i ain't going to the beach hell i'm 55 i've got a long way to go y'all are gonna have to deal with me for a while i would just say if you don't believe in us because we've lost two games down the last play and we're one and two you didn't believe in us anyway

so it don't matter you weren't all in anyway All right. Not a surprise that he mentioned the beach because I think Davo's a lake guy. Mm. Not a great call. Agreed. He's not a beach guy.

Agreed. I don't know what kind of guy he is. To get to the beach from Clemson? I know. That's a hike. Although I did, I was, as far as Charlottesville.

I met some nice people in Duck North Carolina this year that were from that town right next to, from Greenville. And so he might be going, he might be a duck guy. I actually like rare you know how I feel about Davosweeney but then sometimes he'll start just like

he'll get gangster at the podium and I'm kind of like all right I don't mind you we won this league eight out of the last 10 years is that not good I'm just asking is that good I'm just asking who's the guy that he wants to fist fight the caller

the guy that used to call out he doesn't have the radio show anymore he doesn't it was the fuck was that guy's name his name. Spartanburg. Was it Tyler from Spartanburg? Yeah. Trevor, Trevor, Tyler from Spartanburg.

Being four national championships, win it twice. Yeah, we're a little down right now. Take your shots. I've got a long memory. We'll be all right. We'll bounce back. I like that line. I can't stand the guy, but I like the line.

And I hope he doesn't bounce back. I hope they don't bounce back. Steve, are they going to bounce back? Because a lot of what you were saying about Miami is what we heard about Clemson preseason. No doubt. I had Clemson won in the preseason. I thought the returning production and Clubnik and all that was going to be great.

And get them back on top. I could see, you know, it was really interesting because, you know, the different books out there put like adjusted win totals. So like Notre Dame, I saw it posted at eight and a half now, which I love the over. And UCLA is readjusted to one and a half. So I might have taken a parley with it over and an under, but I wanted to see if they had, here we go, Clemson, they were 10 and a half or 9 and a half to start the season, and now it's 7.5.

Wow. I believe they have to go to Louisville. I think they have to play SMU. They're not, they got to play Florida State. They are not out of this. Now, the one thing I will say, and I don't want to sound like I'm making excuses. They had three key starters out last week,

but when you watch it, they just kept shooting themselves in the foot with mistakes. Club Nick was brutal with turnovers. And you can't do that in a game. And I think Brent Key is now like seven and one against ranked ACC teams or something like that, which is nuts. I like this Brinkie guy, man.

Yep. Yeah, O-line guy. He does it right. And I'll tell you what else. This is the other thing, Chris, going back to what you need to be a coach. They're doing really well, like in the recruiting rankings, but I don't know if that's going to stay. Like, until you get these kids on your campus, how do you feel good about your recruiting class, you know? It's one of the reasons, yeah, anyways.

You're not even locked in enough, Chris, to say how bad this slate is. You get to feel like me for a day. It's booty cheeks this week. Which slate? The college football. Slates. Are you going to say how great it is? Dude, the NFL slates much better.

It's not even a good slate. Auburn, Auburn, and Oklahoma. We're still in the preseason in the NFL. Oh, it's the preseason. Nothing matters as much as college football, which is now expanded to accommodate 26 teams in the playoffs so teams can lose two or three times. The only redeeming quality of college football was the winner-go-home nature of every

single weekend, and we took it away. South Carolina is at Missouri. Michigan, Nebraska. Utah. Michigan, Nebraska. Oh, Clemson. Oh, Clemson lost their top six pass catchers. What the fuck is this sport?

Michigan, Nebraska. Is it 1990? Oh, Miami, sorry. Yeah, yeah. Hard to keep track. It's hard to keep track. If you're going to come at it, all right, have your facts right. Next thing you're going to tell us is to watch Indiana and Illinois, huh?

Do we get to watch the Bears again in prime time? It's so funny because we're doing a 45-minute show in college football. We get to watch the Giants in prime time again this? No, there's a lot of drama in that game. Consider like even with two bad teams, quote unquote, one of them is the Kansas City Chiefs, by the way. Somebody gets to win. That's a big deal. Watch Patrick Mahomes throw to a bunch of guys with shadow pictures on the team roster. You know? It's a lot more fun than watching. How many teams have, both have winning records in Monday night games. Steve, I'm on your side in this whole thing. But we do need to hear from.

from you what the best game of this college football slate is this week. I'm going to say Auburn, Oklahoma, because I believe the winner of that game has up. Here's the deal. With New Michigan, Nebraska, Auburn, Oklahoma, I don't think the loser can make the playoff. Okay. Now you're talking.

Your schedules are only get tougher. And you've got to start accumulating wins. And the committee said they are going to start looking at wins, strength of schedule, strength of record. They need it. And with that, with the drama of Austin, Jackson Arnold, going back to Oklahoma in a place where I've said for last year, he got thrown to the wolves with no O-line and no receivers. And then they get John Mateer and they're all happy now in Norman.

So that's a huge spot for, I just hope he doesn't get too crazy. and he could keep his wits about him because this is a monster spot. He's got it. He's a five-star. And he was, I mean, he's already run for more touchdowns than he did last year this season. So I'm rooting for Jackson Arnold to play well in that game. But he's up against it because, as we pointed out, I think a lot of Oklahoma and knowing what they bring in a table from a talent standpoint.

I like this mater. He had a good post-game interview. You can tell a lot from a post-game interview. You know what I'm saying? Sure. What team was he played for? Was it Auburn? Oklahoma.

Steve. Steve. Indiana and Illinois. Now, if you're scheduling, hold on now. If you're scheduling for a club, how are you doing it? The question is, could Indiana's schedule of ODIU, Kinnisaw State, and Indiana State, done by design, come back to Biden here against an actual club in Illinois? weren't they supposed to come to Charlottesville?

Yeah, they canceled UVA. Two guys with UVA to get Kennesaw State back on the schedule. SEC model said SIGs. Yes, but they have enough games this year against ranked teams. But the first time, the first game against Illinois, could they get punched in face? Monstrous. I actually like them. They're good.

They haven't played anybody, and they didn't play anybody last year. But they're good this year, I believe is better than it was last. year. I think Mendoza is an NFL quarterback. They got NFL receivers. O lines good. They got a couple NFL guys on defense, one at each level. So I think that place is going to be a tough one for Illinois to go into and win. I'm not sure about the cover, but I believe Indiana wins that game. And I want to shout out BetMGM. This football season, BetMGM wants to give you another chance at first touchdown scores. With BetMGM's second chance promotion, you'll get your steak bet. in cash if your first touchdown score a score second instead. Bet on any pro football player to score the first touchdown of the game. If you're

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first bet offer on your first wager with BetMGM. BetMGM, make it legendary. Are we on to the The professional ranks? I think we are. I reckon we could start with the recap of the previous week. I mean, what did you see on Monday night?

What did you see from the guys in person? Okay. What do you want to go back and recap? Oh, oh, we're going to get there. We'll do locks. We'll get there. Don't worry. Plenty of time.

We're going to glaze you. We're going to glaze you. I didn't even realize what you were doing. Talk about Monday night. Monday night. What would the people look like? in person. What did the big professionals look like in person? I had a great seat next to Kelsey because in doubleheaders, we go to New York studio.

Yeah. And we just kept taking shots at Kelsey about the tush push and he just wouldn't stand. He just stood his ground the whole time. I did ask him how many. I asked him, did he think he lined up off sides more or less on the tush push in his career? and he would not answer the question. Well, it's like, listen, this is one of the hottest button topics

in Philly sports like this decade. Like you can't take the other side. People get upset. Here's the deal, Chris. I'm sure you're ad nauseum talking about it. I saw that live that that was a false start. You know? That's not to say I'm anti-tush push.

No, I'm not. I say stop it. but if you're going to, if you're not going to officiate it correctly, then you've got no chance. Yeah. Where does the, I know the center can't move forward. Does the ball have to be ahead of the center? Ideally, the ball is a line of scrimmage, but people are, people are playing.

They're watching centers, but, you know, it's amazing how the camera never gets to the, when a team comes out of the huddle, the last thing you see is the center with the ball, and he's been there for a couple seconds. me. So, D-Ly-Lyman know it. Something to monitor this week, because I think McVeigh turned it in, he was like, he went to the head of officiating and was like, hey, I'm snitching. This is what's going on.

So this week we might see a flag or two. What do you all make of Milata saying that the chiefs and other teams mimicking the snap count, which is against the rules? Well, I think that happens a lot in football. Period. It happens more than you think. Really? The old bear call and all that.

Certainly in that circumstance, I would imagine. I think, like, the funny thing was hearing an NFL left tackle call the criticism rubbish. Because you're clearly like a foreigner. It's not a very, but I doubt we'll get the story, but I was watching Sunday night, Chris, and watching Mackay Beck did now play for the Chargers. And I, I can only imagine how long he had to sit in the, office with Harbaugh and Roman and go over the tush push and like go through every oh I'm sure yeah they must

interrogated but it's also like it's it's not like sitting you know a you know a quarterback down that just arrived in new england that was in Pittsburgh last year and being like explain to me the ends and out to this offense like after five minutes there's nothing left to explain like this is what they tell us to do and we're bigger and stronger than everybody um and our quarterback you know squats six 600 pounds. So, I mean, look around the league and look at how other teams fail at doing it. I mean, at some point, it is a skill, but they have to officiate it correctly. Getting back to the Monday night games, Chris, I can't remember the last time where I couldn't tell if Max Crosby was on the field. So I have some. I thought Pipkins did a really good job.

I'm saying I'm not taking anything away from Max. It's all the chargers. Yeah. Like he would, not a factor. He's a factor in, I would put him up at the top of the list of being a factor and when you're trying to talk about having, you know, being a factor in games played, right? And being the position he's in, he's at the top of the list as far as making plays at that position and has an impact on at that position more than anybody in the league in my opinion. And then you're sitting there and you're like, is Max out there? Dude, he's played. And, you know, it's these long drives. Yeah. He's played a lot of snaps. he's also played through injuries last year he played through a high ankle sprain i talk at length about

like what that does to your your lower chain if it doesn't heal right i don't want to speculate it's been two weeks um but correct he's still looking for that first sack pipkins did a good job on him usually you come out of a game like that and you say hey was i didn't see a lot of max or i didn't see a lot of this great rusher like usually it's kitchen sink you know we're putting multiple tight ends over there we're chipping out we're booting at you we're we're we're you know, we're going to distract you with eye candy. But there were a lot of one-on-ones. And, you know, it's something I will be looking at as the year goes on because they absolutely need him to be that game-changing guy. I think they've been probably encouraged by the way

their defense has played relative to expectation. It hasn't been terrible. In that game, and I did a whole about-face midweek here, apologizing Chargers fans for not giving them their due in preseason. But in that game, you know, and I was Raiders plus four, like the Raiders were just a throw or two away from making that a tight ball game. And if Quentin Johnson doesn't catch that touchdown before the half, that's a 13-9 game in the fourth. And so, you know, I think that speaks more to like the Raiders aren't that bad. It's just Gino played poorly. And the secondary for the Chargers is fantastic. They're fantastic.

You know, we're going to talk about it in the preview show. I think Gina was like, oh, for 10. Yeah, over 11. I think he ended up over 11. Yeah, something like that. Oh, okay. It was crazy. Over 10.

I, um, I, uh, with the chargers, I, I just, I think the D.C. is the real deal. No one when he was at Michigan. Um, they, they, they don't do anything crazy to me. Like, they obviously have great talent. Um, and they, together as they play. Everybody's on the same page. That's what I noticed when I watched the Chargers.

It's super impressive. It reminds me of, you know, I think the Packers late last year kind of snuck up on some people as far as how their defense was playing. I mean, like, and when you looked at the group before Micah Parsons got there, you were like, I don't love the corners. Like, you know, they don't really have a, you know, a dynamic pass for us. you know there there were certainly holes but like having a coordinator that makes you work for every inch of the field you know you've got to drive the length of the field without making mistakes

and we're not going to let you beat us over the top like once you add the pass rush in there and that's that's the part that i think like with calil mac leaving in a sling he's going to be gone for like a month and then a month he's out he's on iR short i he's back in a month that's i mean i did dislocation. I saw it when he, when he did, he dislocated his elbow. That's, he's a strong. I mean, I'm not, I know he's a strong dude, but that's insanely strong if he comes back. Because what you do is when you dislocated, it just rips all the ligaments right through. And that's, that's how it happens. So, um, I, I tend to think they could take their time with him. And they might. And the problem is at this point, it's like, where does the pass rush come from? Um, you know,

I'm not saying they're a bad group up front at all, but like that's my concern. You know, if you, you play soft zone behind and you make people earn it, but like you've got you've got it. And that's why we were talking about sim pressures and, you know, like, hey, how can we involve Darwin James in some of these rushes, bring him downhill? You saw him adding on a TE game the other night. Like, he does it all. Last year against the Patriots, I felt like he put on a pass rushing clinic.

Like he is, so he might be the thing that bails you out, but they got to find some rush with Mac out. Tui Pelloto. I like Tully. Are you calling him Tui? Tully? What do they call him for short? Probably his first name, Tully.

Tully. That's why I was just go Tully. I know Tully, Tui Palloto. But I go Tully. He's got heavy hands. He does have heavy hands, but he's not like a Batman rusher. He's not like an A's. No, no, no.

They just don't have that right now. I think you were on the team. when you were on the Eagles and the Vikings had, what was it, Everson Griffin? Everson Griffin. Right. And then DeNeil was a youngster.

Yeah. And Kelsey said Peters walked, Jason Peters walked into the team meeting and they were all talking about Everson. And he's like, y'all got it wrong. Just wait till you see this fool. Yeah.

A hundred sacks later. He's like, he's got some shit that nobody else does. No. And you see a pull of Hesi the other night. I'm like, Good God. Little chop club.

Nightmare. Oh, create, how, be that long and that big and create space in such a tight window. It's, it's scary what those guys could do. It is scary.

That motherfucker is built different, truly. There aren't a lot of names. Are you in on Will Anderson yet? I've been in on Will Anderson. I love Will Anderson. Well, you were, you know, I remember talking to you about,

you know, you said, who's your favorite. I said, Will Anderson's my favorite player. Oh, pre-draft. I didn't know. I don't do college football, as you guys know. I understand. But Will Anderson. Will Anderson, he plays his ass off.

You know, he just play, he plays sped up, you know. Do I put him in the class of like, you know, well, nobody's in Miles Garrett's class, but like, do I put him in that class there? I'm not sure. But if some of these guys don't play as well and he continues to elevate, he could be in that elite class. Hey, Steve, you run the- I'm going to run the show over there for the most part. Can we cut it out with the two games on a Monday night?

Pretty pleased. This is the last year. This is last year. Done. Just like that. Can we move up the Monday night game to 7 p.m.? Like when it's solo? Yeah, just run that up the flagpole.

The next double header, one starts at seven, yeah. I know, but then you get the 10. I'm watching until 1 a.m. for fuck's sake. Can we give? What else are you going to be doing? Can we give Thursday night? 30 Nellies is closed that one on Monday. You're right.

Can we give Thursday night back to college football while we're at it? Nah. Fifteen games on Sunday, one on Monday night? Nah. Let the professionals handle Thursday night. Shout out to November 2nd, 1995. To Chris's Netflix spiel soliloquy, it's amazing being in a college town every Thursday. And still the majority of these bars have direct TV.

and every town I go to now. It's been two years. Direct TV put an Amazon channel on there, and these places don't realize it. I'm like, you guys realize you've had the Thursday night game for two years? Oh, it's a catastrophe in America with bar 10 years.

Steve is told on himself. He's at college bars every Thursday night. Go out to eat, and then we go watch the game. No problem. No problem. You know? You got to eat.

Yep. Got to eat. As you could tell. You were eating last week. That's right. He was eating them dubs. That was the segue that Macon was trying to find. So 5 and O, our boy here.

He's just been smiling. How's the kitchen? I drew a little cabinet layout today. And so we're making projects for the first time. Yeah, people at home are like, yeah, it's still a great box. Yeah. I'll text it to you. So, guys, I want to say this.

Do you get some floating cabinets? And I want to... Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, don't. How's the island? You got an island? Yeah, we're to have an island. Yeah.

Yeah. Okay. You know? Is that where you're sleeping right now, where the island's going to go? No. No, that's where they gut the deer that he harvested in the backyard, and then they roasted over a fire. A hot plate. It makes a very long time. A hot plate.

Steve and Chris. Yeah. I want to make clear that I don't know what's going to have. happen in these games. And so while y'all are giving me credit for going 5 and no, let's chalk it up to all knowledge, sure,

the hat, but a little bit of blind luck, you know? I'm just out here like the rest of you guys trying to do my best. Feast or famine a lot like your kitchen, huh? I can't see the future. It's either 0.5 or 5. I got screwed with the Broncos.

How's that? How's that leverage into tush pushes and leverage. Hey, Steve, I agree. Shit, you lost on leverage. You did get kind of fucked. That is fucked up. Yeah, come on. That's a terrible.

That's a bad beat. Damn. That's a bad beat. Okay. Yeah, so how did everybody do last week, Reed? So, Makin, as you mentioned, you're 5 and O. I, okay. Yep.

Chris, three and two, Steve, two, and three. Standing. Yeah, can we do the whole two weeks? We sit at Chris, seven and three. Makin six and four right behind him. Steve, three and seven, plenty of them. What was that week? one? You're four and one? I was.

Yeah. It's just fucking props. I know I hit my prop week one and I hit it week two. If Jonathan Taylor could catch one more fucking football. One more pass. He had two at half time. I was watching that. I was watching that way. I was too. That was unbelievable. He did have a third catch it. They had one. They called it back. Yeah, yeah.

He had a third catch. I'm like Steve. I feel like Steve. Yeah. That Colts Broncos game, not not being kind of y'all. And guys, if only you guys had just picked the opposite of what you guys picked. How about Danny Dimes versus pressure, huh? Danny Dimes is doing the damn thing.

So, Makin, kicking things off, you have the first pick this week. Damn it. Got to love that. You know what I'm going to do, Cowboy? I'll tell you the truth. I'm going to waffle for a moment, play both sides of it, and make my pick. That's how my... He's going to cold waffle.

That's how my father starts... Leukewarm waffle. Starts every sentence. Tell you the truth. To tell you guys the truth, I'm going to pull up... the spreads that you texted us, cows, just to make sure I don't have the wrong number. How long till I get to go?

You know what I'm saying? Because I know where I'm going. I know where I'm going too. Chris, the thing is I want to make sure I have the right number, okay? You know what else sucks is the Broncos were my first pick? Yeah, you know, you know what sucks? Like everything went under, or everything went over last week in week two, everything.

And I gave out the one over that didn't hit. Really? Sunday night. That was my loss. Sorry, but that takes skill. Announcement. Field goals versus touchdowns. I know.

Red zone defense, young quarterbacks. Team King coming off a five in a week, sitting in second place at six and four at a 60% head rate. We'll pick the Dallas Cowboys on the road, likely laying a point. Don't say yes. Don't say yes. Chris has that smile where he wants to punch you in the face.

No, I don't, I don't. I don't. I have the smile where I'm like, or slap them. Slap him. No, I want to, I want to smack this slate up. You know what I'm saying? So the king cedes the Florida. Chris. I love how focus Chris is. Picking second. It's just like a juice. He's just like he got a freaking IV. Just look at him. He's sitting up in the seat. It's time for his pick. You know what? I don't know where. I don't know where he was the last 45 minutes. I'll throw in a zone. Now he's ready. Oh, I'm ready to pick boys. The long zone. Um, nothing personal here. I'm sure you'll take it personally, but, um, I'm gonna take the Rams.

Oh, plus three and a half. They're gonna jump on the other side of me right away. That's too many, that's just like that you, you throw the hook on there. It's a lot of points. Well, especially when the Philly offense doesn't matriculate the ball down the field so much. I have a few concerns. We'll talk about in the preview. Not a game we can't win.

Maybe a game that I don't feel great about the cover on. Okay. Steve, two picks to you. Fine pick. Yeah, give me the bears. Are you? I love seeing Reed write shit down. I do too. It forces him to like really be careful.

This is great. And I like your handwriting. Thank you. No, no, no. No, no. That was sincere. I like it with that with that thick-tip pause. The flus is going back to Chicago. Exactly. are going or yeah yeah something like that if the bears

it is confusing it is confusing it's like college football don't win this game don't let me take the bears I'm not allowed to take the bears anymore that was that is a bold strategy gotten good Steve all right and just because I can't get enough of them and I love what they did against Derek Henry in the run game Yes. But now. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. You get to the floor.

No. Run game. Give me the Browns. That's hilarious. Suck it, making. That's hilarious. That was my number one pick, and I knew I could get it at. One, two, three, three, four, five pick.

This is going to be so fun when the Packers kicked the doors in. Yeah. And both of you guys. That's, I'm really worried for Flacco in the pocket because he can't move. That's the pick of the week. Steve, that is an excellent thing. The Browns? No, I mean, like, I see the line of thinking.

I mean, defense has played pretty well. Packers read their news clippings. You think so? Yeah, they're going to coast through week three. Sitting up at a diner in Appleton with some Hollandease sauce on their fucking omelet. A little greening their black coffee. Press clippins. Yeah.

That's an excellent pick, Steve. Excellent pick. I hope you guys get a bunch of Hollandease sauce on you. that's an excellent pick I don't do with Hollinay sauce Oh I'm on Oh you're up Oh I will take the

I will take the Texans Okay Texans on the bounce bag Hey by the Well I'll tell you the statistic I love their personnel They just can't put it together Well they have a couple issues

They can't stop the run They can't run the football The offensive line's terrible And the receivers are finding their way But other than that They have like a fantastic defense and in the quarterback, there's a good quarterback in there. Somebody should study how poorly they have fumbled his development in year two and two weeks.

Tell me I'm wrong. I said the other night in Justin Herbert's first couple years, when he got to his drop, he never threw it. He backped it. He took another drop. And that's what's happened in this drought now. It's the same exact thing. He never throws the ball on time.

No, and like, listen, year one, we got, we got good Stroud. Year two, we got, like, I totally get it. Things are totally fucked up. Yeah, I get it too. And then, like, drops and any bails. But now year three, even if things are fucked up around you, when things, you've had a whole off season, when there's a throw to make, make the throw. And I love C.J. Stroud.

But, you know, like, there was a ball with Nico Collins in the red zone. I think it was Nico, and he sailed it. And he's late. He's late and it's high. I mean, like, and I totally get it. The offensive line has been a shit show. But I think this week they, I think this week they bounce back. Okay.

Am I up? No, man. Okay. No. Calves, I will take Falcons, Panthers over. Nice. 43 and a half. Do you know how many points that those two teams combined for last year in their matchups? No.

I think, uh, was it, was it 70? No, it was more than 70. It was 140. I think. Yeah, like that. Some multiple of 70. Like that a lot. Yeah, it's crazy.

Calbs? Yep. I'm going to do another total for you here. Didn't you? How's he doing this? I can't see it. I did an arrow up. Oh, you should have just gone to a second line maybe.

Yeah. It's kind of angled. Okay. You could put a little O next to the... That's what I tried, but it looked a little weird. Do you want me to get up there? No. That hieroglyphic?

You got it. Calbs, yeah. I tried the O. You don't even need to write the number. I mean, maybe you want the number. Yeah, that's a good point. I mean, the number could go on the second line. Yeah, but just, just, you know.

043.5. 043.5, you know? I'm just trying to think how long it takes from this. I'm shocked that that works. Text to us. And, uh... Second pick. And...

I'll do it again. For my third pick, second in a row. We're going to go up to Seattle and take the under, Calb. Saints, Seahawks, under 41 and a half. Man, I'm loving the way the board's laying out. You think my picks are bad picks or you just have your... No, I just... My picks aren't getting taken. What was that second one? Seahawks under?

Yes, sir. And don't be a... Don't be like that, Steve. I can't do it. I already did. I already gave the six. What do you mean you can't do it? These rules. Just don't be like that.

Hey, Calbs, I don't like the E and C there. Golly. Who has the lower? lowest team total. Probably the Browns, right? Yeah, that's probably pretty low. I get a problem when I do that. All right, Chris.

All right. Mr. First Place. Oh, am I still up? I'm up now? Okay. Give me the, uh, give me the,

uh, the, um, the Cowboys and Bears over. Okay. Shootout once again for the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, the, uh,

the, the, the, the, the, the, in those matchups. Bear scored 21 last week.

Fluse. Come on, dude. I thought Caleb looked fine. That was the adjective. Just fine. Okay. Everybody's say, hey, look at the quarterback. I want to say, hey, look at the rest of the roster. It's not great. Not as good as people said.

You know what I'm saying? He's got a team total. Calab, Steve's complaining that he doesn't have team totals. Let me tell you, what team you're looking for? Browns. Damn, all in. I need to look at these bad MGM team totals. If we take a prop that's plus a thousand,

does it count for two wins? No. I got to figure out a way to get back. Steve, that Cleveland pick was great. Yeah, that's good pick. And I'm serious, it's a great pick. Bejon is minus 220 to score a touchdown? Holy hell.

A little rich Well they give the ball to Alger a lot It's true Yeah But he said minus 220 Oh he's minus 220 That's crazy You're seeing 16 and a half

Reed is that what you're seeing? I'm not seeing anything He's not seeing it All right I'll take over 16 and a half All right Brown team total And I will take the under In New England, Pittsburgh

That's also a nice pick You're making a couple nice bicks here, Steve. Look for a three and two week from you this week, pal. We need more. Hey, baby steps. Chris, you're up. I know.

I'm going to do the, here's what I'm going to do. I'm going to stall for a minute. Oh. While you're stalling, can I ask you a question? Yeah, sure. When's the last time you were clean shaved like making? Haven't recently. Happened this summer.

I was going through a like a bit of a midlife crisis. Haven't turned 40. He's lined you. He was doing something else, but he can't tell you yet. Well, yeah. Well, there was something else that I did where I had to shave. But then after that, I was like, you know what? I look pretty young.

You know? Don't want my wife getting any ideas. You know what I'm saying. I know what you're saying. Steve, do you have any questions for me while he's stalling? Yeah. Do you shave once a month? You know, Steve, I'd say I shave on average.

two and a half times a week. Hey, what's the Packers' first half line? Well, on average, pal. Sometimes it's three, sometimes it's four and a half. Four and a half? Yeah. Give me the Packers first half. Best first half team in football.

Joe Flacko's been pressured like 40% of his dropbacks. Tucker Kraft. Tucker Kraft's a stud, bro. Hey, Kyle. Are you ready? Are you ready to give, uh, Trey McBride, the title. Of what?

Best tight end in the game. Brock's dinged up, Steve. No, Brock Bowers. Steve's all. Titans that put their hand in the dirt. I don't know that any of them really beat the standard of putting their hand in the dirt anymore. Then the answer is, is Brenton Strange, my friend? Tucker Kraft's up there, though.

He is. He is. Okay. Dudd. One drop from Travis Kelsey. Good luck. I thought it was a bad ball. It was a little early.

Break yourselves. And it was a fastball. Is this my God? Jesus Christ. All I do is talk and you guys keep going. Is it if I'm not here, my turn. I'm ready to go for the first time in six years. Put another paper in your hand.

Jalen Warren over. 20.5 receiving yards, courtesy Bet MGM. And for my final pick, I'm going to need a few minutes. I tell you what? It's funny nobody's touched the Vegas Raiders. I'm about to. You probably should touch him. Touch him.

I'm about to. Touch him. Put your hands on them. Give me the Raiders, plus three and a half. Remember when Marriota came in the game last week? You know why you're taking it? Her last year, Week 7. Yeah, I know why I'm taking it.

Just smoked Carolina's tits. He actually prefers Mario da. Whatever. Marcus Mario da. I can't keep track. Everybody's names. There's just so many. Did you hear that Bajon is back to Bajon?

No way. Yes. No way. Yeah. What? He said correct. It is Bajon. Rico did the whole thing on the Sunday night broadcast.

Yeah. What? Yeah. Yes. It's Bijon. Snip, snap. Snip, snap. Did you hear Baker Mayfield standing up for Tarrad Taylor?

Oh, okay. Someone asked Tyrod, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. It's Tarad. Exactly. He said, actually, he likes Tarat. Nice. But he won't correct anybody. Tarad might not be a bad pick for those of you still with picks.

Mm-hmm. Are you done? I'm done. You might want to look at those Denver Broncos, too. They burned me last week. They can go plant traffic. Oh, wow. That's pretty good stuff.

Golly. This board changes everything. I love it. I don't know for the life of me. Am I up? You are up. You've done. Why for the life of me, I don't know why San Francisco, there's so many people on San Francisco.

There's so many people on San Francisco. I don't understand it. Steve, can you help me understand it? No. I got the, I'll take the Arizona Cardinals. I'll take the Arizona Cardinals on the road laying two and a half. We got some questions in the secondary health-wise, but there are many questions outside for the San Francisco 49ers.

I will take the under in that game. Okay, Steve. Low total game. I feel good about catching points. Steve, I'm telling you, man, you're going to get three of these. I really like Arizona's personnel on defense. I do too. Yeah.

I do too. I take back calling them booty cheeks. They're not booty cheeks. I think a lot of people looked through the scoreboard last weekend. Like Carolina almost got them. And they did. but they're pretty good. So to recap, Macon's got Dallas laying a point.

He's got Atlanta and Carolina over 43 and a half. He's got Seattle, New Orleans, under 41.5. He's got Jalen Warren over 20 and a half receiving yards, and he's got the Vegas Raiders catching three and a hook. Chris, that's me, the Rams, three and a half, Houston, one and a half, Dallas, Chicago, over 50 and a half. Green Bay first half minus four and a half, Arizona catching two and a half points. And then Steve's got Chicago in the head to head with Macon, Cleveland plus eight, Cleveland,

over 16 and a half, team total. Pittsburgh, New England, under 44 and a half. And Arizona, San Francisco, under 44.5. Fellas, where are we buying our half points? Can I go down to a half point? Boy, I hate this because it doesn't do me any good on any of these. Like for nobody this week But guess what?

You gotta use them But dog Dog dog dog dog Should we all buy a point? Take the Take Arizona to three, man Yeah, I probably should Bring the push into play

Push into play Pushing to play I know it's just so annoying I'll tell yeah I will No pushes yet right None You pushed them We need that on the soundboard

Yeah We got top men on it right now Yeah What do you think, Steve? I guess I'll Cowboys win. Man, me and both can win. Give me one and a half.

Is that what it is? Well, we can only both win. If I take them down to a half point, which I don't know that I really want to do. Or you push, I win. That's good. Seven, six final. I will take Vegas up to four, please.

Plus four. In Maryland. Just so you know, as soon as I saw you ask on Twitter if they were going to post the records from this week, I went to bed that night saying, I don't give a shit what his first pick is. I'm going against him. Oh, I like it. That's pretty awesome. So I've been sitting on that one for seven nights. That's what she said. I like that approach a lot, Steve.

I respect that approach. The big brass one's on Steve. I want to catch the game. The king. You're the prince, bro. Well, you're the prince. Coming off a five and no. No, it's good. You know, that's how that's a king with the king with no kitchen. We get a grade on Reed's penmanship on the board.

Pretty good. I kind of like his thick tip. Thanks. It looks like son of Sam's journal entries. I appreciate that. Yeah, I mean, first time on the board. No, you guys, that looks good. No, it does look good.

It's like a C plus. No, it's, it's, it's, good. It's a B-flop. It's perfectly acceptable. Are we getting a bigger board? Yeah, we're getting a bigger board. We're going to need a bigger board. May you just flip it sideways? We can do that. There's also just a great camera. You know, you fancy yourself an artist. Maybe you could draw for us.

That's funny. Yeah, he's drawing cabinets. I am drawing cabinets, which is surely what he's referring to. It's pleasure, Steve, as always. Yeah, the camera angle right on reads mid-s, inspection great. Yeah, that's good. Steve,

take care, okay? Joy, hi, Leah. Chris, watch some college football. Yeah,

I will. I will. I'll be sure to do that. You won't. Peace. I also have a, uh, all right,

thank you guys. Dynamite. Bye.