Green Light with Chris Long - Chris Returns From Climbing Kilimanjaro and Gets Caught Up on the Sports World

Episode Date: March 2, 2023

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Go to Vroom.com and check out thousands of cars. Today on the Greenlight Pod, Chris returns from climbing Mount Kilimanjaro with a bunch of stories from the trip. Macon recounts what it was like as a solo host, and the guys catch Chris up on what he missed out on in the world of sports while he was gone. Enjoy. All right, guys, we've been here like 30 minutes. We have a lot of catching up to do. I haven't really done it because we wanted to save it for the pod. I purposely haven't asked you.

How was your trip, player? My trip was good, but I more want to talk about you guys. Thank you because I didn't even fucking think about the podcast. Admittedly didn't miss it. It was kind of scary. That's a big step for you. I don't care. Like when I'm gone and I feel like it's handled, it's cool.

And that's, I'm getting to the, makes me feel good. The point is, good job, guys. Thank you. The rave reviews. I, you know, now obviously I don't listen to the podcast. So this was interesting. I saw your tweet this morning that said, I have no idea what's been happening. And then I thought to myself, he had 24 hours on a plane ride.

He couldn't have listened to two green light pods. Yeah, well, you know, I thought. about it but then I was like you know there's so much stuff I have to do you know like uh getting home to get ready to hit the ground running I was like can I devote two and a half hours uh to listening to the pods that bow and facts and Macon respectively did making almost went two and a half on his own there player well because he's got these guests that he loves Tate Fraser and he loves Randy Scott and we I love those guys too but these are like his favorites so to be able to do that I know you were excited probably.

The world of the story is I didn't I didn't have the time. Are we? Are we bearing the lead of your trip? Do you want me to go into this? No, we'll talk about the trip, but I'm just like there's a lot that I'm excited about getting home. Like for instance, I walk in today,

I hear we've got a fucking softball team lined up. Oh, there's a green light softball team. Oh, I don't even know this. Are you going to be on the team? Yeah. Tuesday nights. Oh, no.

Why? I had a family at home. So do I, man. Come on. Come on. Okay. I'm not good. Like, I'm really not good at baseball.

I'm also not good. I've got hand-eye. We can hide you. You can do the scorebook. Why don't you do the scorebook? Okay. That's right up your eye. Is there a catcher?

I'm a good catcher. You don't want to be the catcher. I know I've dislocated my finger once. Sure. Okay, cool. But that's exciting, guys. So nice work on that. What else has?

I mean, we'll talk about sports. I don't want to move past this podcast that Macon did with Randy Scott, because you should check that out. People say it was good. It was really cool. Very different. I'm not listening to it until he listens to like some of the other podcasts that we've done. Just, you know, like I'm a busy guy, dude.

Fuck, you want me to listen to the one podcast you don't on your own? Like how many goddamn podcasts have I sat in here? I mean, I've, I've, actually, I interviewed for Christ's sake. And no one listened to that. I'm in here for two years during the Pandy. The fellas might, um, might tell you that we didn't make any cuts in those two hours. That's good.

Yeah. Are you insinuating that we make cuts? No, no, no. But here, that's a really good point that we get off on the right foot. Yeah. Most of the cuts are because of you. Huh. Really?

Yeah. Okay. I, uh, that's a really good point you make because I left out of here. I left out of here. I walked out of here feeling a sense of accomplishment. Yeah. And I listened back and I felt less of a sense of accomplishment.

There were so many ums and us that I really couldn't get through it. It was nails on a chalkboard. I was great. But I had a greater, there it is, I had a greater appreciation for what you do. Because I freaked out on Sunday. I was making notes all week, but freaked out on Sunday,

a lot of prep, over prepped. You had the butterflies. Yeah, for sure. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was lined up. You make it look so easy. Thank you.

What I hear. Some of the Randy Scott reviews don't interest you, don't peek your interest? No, they do. I just don't have any fucking time, dude. Imagine, you know, like having a family. You can do other things at the same time. Put it on in the shower.

Yeah. Maybe I'll do that. Thank you for your trust. I'm a choice player. It was, well, yeah. I do trust you. I trust you all, man. Fosha did a great job.

He did. He did. He did. He did. I was, I learned about Cowboy Reed not being in here about the day before, and that did freak me out with no disrespect to Fosha. Yeah, but shout out to Foshea.

He stepped up. I thought I would look up and see Cowboy and just get more comfortable. and without the cowboy, it was a tougher road to hoe. Kingston, Scott. Yeah, yeah. I was in great hands, and Tate had just come off the Titus announcement. Now, Tate has an announcement of his own.

Titus is going to Barstool. And Tate's going to the ringer. Okay. One shining pod. Like trade deadline. Right. And then Randy was ready. What did he say about being sad?

I had hoped to get him to cry. He didn't cry. He was very diplomatic. but it was clear, if I can be frank, that I think it was a surprise to Tate. Really? Didn't you pick up on that? Absolutely.

I think it was a surprise. But he was a diplomat about it. Yeah. Titus has always had a relationship with those guys, but I don't think that either anticipated this split. That's why I wanted to take the time to let you all know that I'm going to OAN. Nice. Okay.

Well, we'll keep the lights on. In fact, the open of the previous show, We talk about what would happen if you don't or didn't make it down the mountain. We'll talk about it in a couple, but it wasn't really the mountain. It was the plane ride. Yeah, there was a lot of thinking about, like, you know, you guys were talking about, hey, we'll catch up on the trip on Thursday. Might be a fucking eulogy the way this pilot was.

Wow. But, hey, sad? Not sad because he knew what he was about to announce, which was one shining pod on the ringer. So Tate's in good shape. Congrats Sam. And Titus. Randy and Titus.

Randy is just a big fan of Greenlight. I like Randy, too. That's really cool. I missed that. The one time we tried to get Randy on before, it didn't work. And then,

you know, I'm glad that you got that in because he's your guy. Randy's availed himself moving forward. So we can have them back. And there's a lot I didn't get to. I was telling these guys, I was now 30 minutes apiece for these guys.

And we were at about 50 minutes at a blink of an eye. Who were the best Randis of all the time? I took Savage. Randy Marsh, Randy Johnson. I took Marsh. Yep, Savage. I rounded it out with someone.

He, I won easily. And Randy Moss go on draft? Yeah, yeah, I got Moss. I got, listen to Savage. Savage, Marsh, and Moss were my three Randy's. Pretty good. He got Jackson, Johnson. Randy Jackson?

Yeah, and Randy Travis. Randy Jackson. Yeah. And then he claims a guy named Randy drafting Randy. Who's Randy Jackson? That's a no for me, dog. Exactly. That's it.

He made this. He won the draft. I did win the draft. Okay. But Randy was great. I did listen back to points. And it is wild. I tried to make it as conversational as possible with both of these guys.

And then I just didn't end sentences on down beats where there was air for them to come in, as if it were a conversation. This is good. You should do more pods and listen to yourself. Enunciate or not anunciate. He kept on being like, not really a question there. Sorry.

Exactly. So I just never asked a question. I would just say things. But if I just said, not really a question there, it would have been fine. It would have been a good conversation. But I did try to get into the lab

and listen to that. Good job, man. Thank you. Thank you. How many things, I made a conscious effort to really listen to those two cats. Yeah.

And it's amazing how many things I still missed. Yeah, because you're thinking about the next question. Where you need to go, you got to drive the bus. Listening back, driving the bus is fucking hard. Randy was like eight times funnier than I thought in real time. He was getting a lot of jokes in. I was just missing them. Yeah, I miss shit all the time. Yeah. He had some inside green light jokes too. Like he clearly listens to the past. He's a listener. So shout out to Randy. As for the climb, I do want to shout out all the people on the climb because there were a few green light listeners in the group. Okay, so we had

athletes we had veterans and we had like advocates so if you're sitting at home and i get a lot of dms like this hey i'd love to go next year with you guys i'm like okay i'm up with 15 000 oh it's 15 now cause okay and uh we'll put you in a lottery um okay so conquering killy where i've been the last 12 days east africa tanzania going up kilmanjaro back in 2013 and forgive me for the people that have heard this story a million times, but this is the catch-up pod. So in 2013, I wanted to travel. Jeff Fisher got hired. I was in his office. He just paid me. So I felt like we were boys. And I'm looking on his desk and there's this picture of him climbing like this really high mountain. I don't know where it is. And I said to him, I said, because I like to climb and

trek around here, but I've never done anything like that. I said, where is the, mountain he said Kilimanjaro I said is it difficult he goes you can walk the whole way it's it's really tough but you can walk the whole way so you don't need like carabiners is not technical um it's not like um into thin air some bullshit like that so I said I want to travel um I'd like to do that climb he's like oh that sounds great you should do it one day I was like I'd like to do it next off season and I think he's like man I'd like to get back to the contract and insert a clause somewhere that if you fall outside of the mountain I don't have to pay you But I took James Hall, who was like a veteran of mine, and we took to the mountain, and we had a great time, came down, met a lot of people, saw some of the circumstances that people were living in.

And being a little bit pragmatic, water kind of was what I latched on to because I decided I wanted to help. You know, it was like a really awesome trip for me. I had never been that far away from home. I met a lot of wonderful people and I said, you know, like I'm starting a foundation. If there's something that I want to do, I should do it now. I shouldn't overanalyze it. And actually, I got a nudge because, as you know, our good friend Joe Buck, and your great friend Troy Aikman, who you took a piss with.

By the way, thanks for opening the Aikman interview off offline and saying, Troy Makin here. I urinated next to you at the Super Bowl. That was like, Troy was like, fuck me, dude. You texted me about coming on the pod last night. Who is this guy? I was mid-urination. He urinated next to me because he came in afterwards.

And I didn't mention. Other open stalls? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Urinals, urinals. No, but were there other open stalls and you guys just ended up next to each other? Great question. It was only the two of us in there and there were open ones. I don't remember where he lined up.

It wasn't uncomfortable. The bottom line is, was awesome. You didn't like that, huh? Like a little bit like a near pick six, the first play of the interview. The only regret I've ever had in that realm on this pod is I thought it was going to be funny and cute to interview Kirk Herb Street from a bathroom in the Outer Banks. And he popped on and you were like, this is making, he's on vacation, you know,

his kids are sleeping, his kids sleep and he's in a bathroom. And Kirk was like, oh, okay. Yeah, not funny. Crickets. Prickets. Yeah. I mean, you've had a few of those.

Okay. That's the only one that comes to my... I just don't even registered on your... Yeah, like I thought the Aikman was a win. Like, you went through a phase where you would say love is love to every person that we had on the pot. I do need to get back to that. We'd have like some... Yeah, Freddy Gibbs on or something.

Love is love, Freddy. Well, Troy was like nice to meet you. Not so fast, my friend. Yeah. Senior wean. Yeah, man. We're pretty close. So anyways, I was in a...

More ways than one. I was in a bar. in 2013, me and James Hall had just come down from Summit. And we're drinking a beer, and it only takes one or two when you get off that mountain. And a guy walks in and says my name at the bar in Tanzania. I'm like, what the fuck, dude? There's no way that somebody knows who I am halfway around the world.

Since you're Chris Long. Must be another Chris. I turn over my right shoulder, and it's Joe Buck, and he's there with a guy named Doug Pitt, who happens to be Brad Pitt's brother. I think he's more handsome than Brad. Shout out to Doug, and Doug is an ambassador for World Serve.

He's actually the Goodwill Ambassador to Tanzania. So he's done a lot of great work there. He brought Joe over because they're both Missouri guys on a water project. And they were like, do you want to go with me? We're going in the morning. Couldn't do it. The flight was leaving.

Came home. Did more research and had an idea. I'd like to get into providing clean water under like an NFL alliance because I think there's a niche for that. Couldn't think of a name. Called my mom. We talked for a while. She came up with water boys. And that's where it all started now. Fast forward a year later, a couple years later maybe, I'm in training camp in Oxnard with the Rams. And I'm winding down watching Sports Center. And there's a feature on a guy named Nate Boyer, who you guys know. And Nate was a green beret.

And Nate, Nate, um, bought in some serious shit. And, uh, he also happened to, after fighting in some serious shit, come home and play for Texas. Mm-hmm. So he walked on at Texas. You know, anybody who's played college football or been to college, like, I'm sure around 30 or like, thinking back and you're like, damn, if I could have done it all over again, I absolutely would. I'd walk into class at 30 years old.

I go to all the party. what would that be like to go back to college? Well, Nate really got to do it. He was playing Texas football and he's a fucking war hero. That's crazy. In the state of Texas in Austin and ends up actually with the Seahawks and he gets a little tryout.

He's in preseason as a snapper because he's a small guy. No offense, Nate, you're not that big. And they're doing this feature on him, basically. And I watched the feature and I kind of just have a man crush on this dude he's served he played in the NFL he seems like a really intelligent humble guy and he's spent a lot of time in africa and i thought i need to get him involved i don't know how but i'm going to cold call this guy

so i get his number through j glazer we talk on the phone you know i'm telephobic right so yeah so we talk for like three hours like like we've known each other our whole lives and we have a great friendship to this day but he decided that the best course of action when it came to getting vets involved was doing some sort of an event like a climb. He was like, how did you get into clean water?

I told him Killy. And he said, let's bring vets up Killy. So the last 10 years, we've done this conquering Killy deal with wounded veterans, a lot of them amputees, a lot of veterans who just are looking for a challenge,

that sort of thing. We've had a dude that was completely blind, some at Killem. Jar. I mean, you want to talk about responsibility? God damn, dude. He had a buddy named Fred Dumar, has a buddy named Fred Dumar, who's been up Kelly, and he brought Ivan over, and Fred was kind of his right-hand man, and, like, did everything for him, got him ready in the morning, the whole thing, like, you know, because the guy can't see and he's climbing a mountain. Remarkable. But Fred got real sick

summit night like an hour in spitting blood the whole thing like altitude sickness yeah basically and this guy's an ultra marathon runner he's like in incredible shape so he's really disappointed compounding that with the fact that now he's got to turn back and leave his buddy who's completely blind with a bunch of meat head football players and he's passing him on to at this time louise castillo and nick hardwick who were teammates in san diego um and were climbing with me and their responsible was going to be Ivan the rest of the way and uh fred was like listen when i say you got this like you got to have this and an hour later we're walking by cliffs that are fucking 500 feet 700 feet down into a gorge and you're telling ivan left foot right foot watch for this rock

uh we had the first female above the knee amputee uh to summit kille all time with our group cursing in this one year. We've had a lot of great men and women climb that mountain. So we did it again this year. And for me, it's been five years. I look up, the pandemic happens.

One year I take a bunch of guys over on a safari program. I've done the climb four times now. But for me, being away from football so long, I've been challenged like this. And so this climb meant a lot for me. You know, number one,

it always means a lot to do this. for the cause we're doing it for, but also to, like, summit with these people and push these people and make lifelong friends. Like, you know, when you climb a mountain with somebody, like, you guys are boys. You know, seven days in a tent and a mess hall, altitude sickness, far away from home,

no cell phones, card games, the whole thing. You know, you learn about each other. Could you tell the difference in your body? Last time you were, what, 32, 33, now you're 37 and retired? Don't remind me, yeah. I, um, no, I honestly, it was weighing, like, listen, when I used to climb, we'd do it in February. And I, I would have just finished the season. And when I started conquering Kelly, it was like the end of my St. Louis career. So all of a sudden now I'm playing into February, uh, whether it was scheduling in February and knowing that like when I signed with New England, hey, chances are you're going to have a week off and you're going to climb this mountain or Philly where I'm like, okay, I might have a month off, but that didn't turn out to be true at all.

Yeah, right. So I was weighing like, hey, this version of Chris, whose gas tank is full. I'm probably a lot mentally less conditioned, physically less condition, but my gas tank is full against the other Chris, who, you know, is tired as fuck, just came off of a Super Bowl run, but is probably in great, great shape. And you probably didn't see Killie as as big of a challenge compared to, like, playing in the Super Bowl, whereas right now you haven't been physically challenged in a while. I swear to you, it is a bit, like, I swear to you, it's a bigger challenge.

I swear, we, like, listen, a lot of people summit Kelly. It's the highest walkable mountain. Like, there's a lot of people probably listening to this who have been to Kelly, who have summoned it and say, like, yeah, it was difficult, but it's not the hardest thing I've ever done. Well, I'll tell you what, when we leave these trips, I mean, you're talking about military guys, NFL guys, they're like, that's maybe the hardest thing I've ever done because of the altitude,

because of the discomfort, because of the, you know, just not knowing what to expect. and you know you asked me i've been five times now is it harder or easier when i go back i think it's harder and i liken it to like if somebody was going to punch you in the face you know if somebody sucker punches me in the face like it hurts but it hurts way more if somebody's like okay i'm gonna punch you in the nose now as hard as i can you've been punched three or four times i know exactly what to expect and long story short i did really well um i mean i blew chunks projectile vomited at the top. That's what it is. Because you've come back looking

hotter. Yeah, thanks. I appreciate. Yeah, little thinner, face little tauter. I mean, wind burnt. Hot boy spring. Now I do have I do have a couple things going on. Like when you're up there, the UV rays are so fucking, I mean it's 19,3141 feet. So like when you summit then the sun comes

up because you leave at midnight, right? It's the worst. Like you get to this camp called Kibo Hut. It's 15,000 feet. There's no vegetation, obviously. It's windy it's cold i've never had snow on a summit night we got to kebo it's the last stop before summit night you get there at four o'clock uh then you then you take off at midnight to go hit the summit and you're going to be hump until sundown because you want to get down after that to

to a to a lower camp um and we all take like you try to take a nap you try to go to sleep at like seven they wake up at 11 four o'clock i take like an hour and a half nap it's very uncomfortable up there it's cold you just want to go i get out of the tent and the fucking mountains covered in snow i can't see the mountain anymore it's right it's right there uh our our tents covered in snow the whole thing and i'm like oh fuck this is going to be really tough um so we get up there to the top the sun comes up we we made great time uh we actually push it a little hard and the sun comes up and if you don't have sunscreen on. You're going to get your face just gets murdered, dude. And I was applying and reapplying, but my lips are like fucking dried to the max. You came in, you told me I had boogers on my nose.

No, my nose is just peeling like a snake. And I apologize for it. I didn't know it was a skin situation. Yeah. And it makes me a little self-conscious because I'll walk into a store and somebody like, you got something there. And I'm like, no, my nose is just falling off. You walk into a store and somebody tells you you got no stuff. No, but you know, somebody at the registers thinking like that guy's They're thinking it. Yeah. Yeah. I have a, I have a, I have a couple questions to jump in here. How long does it take up and how long down? So it's like four nights up and then two nights down,

including summer nights. So you're kind of like six days on the mountain. Okay. And I mean this sincerely. Is it ever boring? No, it's not because it's always challenging. You know, like the first four days are like, you know, three, four, five hour walks.

you know they're just walks um and most people are like yeah it's isn't too bad uh we fill time by playing games we play dude we got up there and every time you get to a camp they take your pulse ox which your blood oxygen percentage level and your your heart rate and the higher up you get you know if you're resting heart rate is 50 you know at home it's going to be 75 or 80 up there some guys we had this guy Rick Peralt who i'm about to tell you about who who's done iron he's done Kona, Iron Man, all this shit. His heart rate's up above 100 the whole time. So you just, like, how uncomfortable is that?

But naturally, I opened up a book and we gambled on heart rate. We gambled on a literal book. Yeah, no, no, I was the book. You know, it was kind of nice to be the book. Honestly, it's pretty profitable to be the book. Yeah. Like, I see what's in it for these, these. I got all the lights on the strip.

Yeah, and obviously nothing illegal about that because there can't be a law against it. Nobody would ever think anybody would be up on the mountain gambling, but I found a way. We did over, unders on heart raids. We did, we did odds like plus eight.

There was one guy, Christopher, who was sick as a dog the first couple days. He actually almost had sepsis. I think he's okay with me talking about this. We had to do a surgery on him on the mountain. This guy, Ben Powers,

who was special forces badass. He's like Captain fucking America. This dude used to treat people in the field, too. So this guy's got this terrible cut that's just it's red it's pussy you know we're at altitude it's a it's a concern he might have to go down but after we did our hike one day we're all crowded around this picnic table this guy's laying on his stomach and ben's got a knife and he's expressing the wound and cleaning it um good terminology yeah yeah um i don't know where i was you asked me what you're gonna talk about

your friend that you made. Rick. So Rick, you know, like we're just Gam, you know, like Christopher Farrenholz here, who might have sepsis, you know, he's plus 800 to have the lowest heart rate. You know, like, and it might, it might

offend somebody, but dude, you're like sick as a dog. You know, like, there's no way you're going to have the highest level of oxygen in your blood. So I make him like plus 800. How many people in the group? There's 11 people. Could people?

bet on their own like pull socks reading no we made that we outlawed that okay obviously you could like you know either hyperventilate yeah well you could you you bet the under if you've been taking your heart rate the whole thing are these ios or people rolling with money clips so we ended up just just paying the got the porters with the money that the book accrued um but we did a lot to pass the time it's never boring dude it's you know the most boring time is the most difficult time too and that's what makes it so hard is for six hours of in complete darkness, you're just switchbacking up

this mountain gaining 4,000 feet in elevation. And you see these headlamps up at the top of the mountain and you're trying to figure out where is Gilman's point because that's where you get over the rim of the volcano and you're on the home stretch. And the fucking, the headlamps look tiny wherever they are. You have no idea and you're just putting one foot in front of the other. And I think that's the most boring time.

So you guys are all like a bunch of, alphas, there's like these military dudes, ex-athletes. Did like a true alpha dog emerge when you were up there? They're all alphas, man, like you said. So I think, you know, we just push each other. You know, I've been five times now, Micah Sneed, who's a Marine, he was my tentmate, we made him the captain this year. You know, we have the experience, but there are times where I need to lean on these guys. Was a captain's mean? Was a captaincy mean on a climb? It just means that you you have to provide a little leadership like you know both me and mike are telling guys you know the the life hacks you know bring a piss bottle things like that you know i get this three

leader collapsible piss bottle because you're on diomox which is a diuretic it's an altitude medicine you're crushing water i'm drinking 10 liters of water a day because when you're up there you're metabolizing water a lot quick more quickly um you know when you get in your tent at night and it's fucking 20 degrees outside. You don't want to get out of your sleeping bag, unzip it, fucking put your booties on, unzip the tent, wake your tent made up, go outside, you're cold as fuck, then come back in. It's just uncomfortable. I might prefer that to a bottle.

Really? I've never taken to a. Really? Yeah, a bottle. Well, if you were up there, you would have. What about sleep? Are you like Pedro Pascal and Last of Us? like you wake up your back curtain.

Yes, my back's hurting. Yeah, my back's hurting. Okay. Last night, I kind of, the last night at this, this camp, uh, when we're on the descent, they had these cabins.

And, um, you know, they, they're like $50 for two people. Cabins. It's just, it's shelter. There's no electricity.

They got a toilet in there that you got to pour water into in a bucket to flush it, but you're not in the wind. And, uh, me and Micah kind of, you know, I like the sound of that. Yeah,

we, we took the easy way out the last night because it had a little bed because my back was so jacked up you're sleeping on a cot which is actually pretty nice because you're off the ground but you're sleeping like three four hours a night realistically yeah so it's tough I mean um but we had a great time and for me it's kind of like a hard reset you know like it really is like whatever aaron rogers darkness or a treat does it did this it does the same thing for me because you're unplugged for a week you do something really hard, you challenge yourself. And I think when you finish doing something like that,

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Okay. We got a bunch of porters. There's three or four dudes who cook the food, and they did an outstanding job. A lot of porridge, a lot of soup. They sneak a lot of sodium into your food because you got to get salt down, beef stew, stuff like that, like mountain food.

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eight and a half hours nine hours to jackson hartfield and then you know flight to charles well so I'll put it this way. We summited at midnight. You go for eight, 10 hours up and down the mountain to Keebo Hut and then another like six, seven miles to the next camp, you sleep there. And then the next morning, I'm 12 miles to the gate. I'm out the gate. I'm a three-hour drive to the airport. I stop at a hotel to get a shower, which the shower after this thing is incredible. Like you should see the dirt is coming out of places that like you didn't even know there could be dirt. And um, isn't a shower when you're incredibly dirty? Just feel amazing. The best thing in the world. They have a, they have a shower tent where they just pump water and the whole thing. I opted

not to the whole time. I was wearing the same clothes for 48 hours. Same shirt never took it off. Same underwear. I never took it off. The whole thing. Uh, so I've got like from the time I left the gate, 12 hours hiking out to the time I got home, it's probably almost 40 hours. Wow. You know, like, and the whole time I'm traveling. I'm just thinking about getting home. And today is Waylon's birthday. So I want to say happy birthday to Wayland.

He's seven years old. I want to get home for his birthday. By the way, he's having an all-sports theme party. Nice. All-s for like the drinks. No, like, you know, we mix in some soccer balls. There's a baseball thing. He just likes sports in general.

I haven't picked up that. invitation. When is that? This afternoon, you want to go? Yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah, seriously. Yeah. Um, we always did a walk restaurant derivative when I was a kid.

Like we went Benihana's or. Nice. Flaming walk. We need a walk restaurant in Charlottesville. Yeah, I used to go to, you're talking about like the place where they cook in front of you basically. Yeah. That was always my birthday.

That was so much fun. Yeah. I think it burned down. I think we had one. Didn't burn down. Yeah, no. It was complicated. So.

Anyways, the flight's back. We're a real motherfucker. 12 miles, no food really, because once you summit, you can't really eat. You're just kind of like your appetites off for a day. You know, I get to the airport. Go ahead. Do these porters just go up and down and then up and down?

They're amazing. They're amazing. They're guys because what you do is you take a day pack and, you know, they try to keep it strict with like how heavy it is so you don't overexert yourself. and then the rest of your stuff's in a duffel bag these guys are up and down the mountain with bags like heavy bags and they're a lot smaller than us

flip flops wow yeah just like cruising past us and these guys uh go down for a week 10 days back up to up the mountain my porters both name or not porters my guides the head guides name is orca fucking he's a legend he's a Danish guy that grew up in Tanzania. He does it all. He's like, he's like Indiana Jones. White guy living in Tanzania.

And his name to work. He's climbing the mountain for the hundredth time in a week with his buddies. But these other two guys, Moses, who are Tanzanian dudes, have been up 300, 400 times. Wow. And are just remarkable guys. But, you know, I'm drained. I don't have anything in me. I get to the airport. So we take off for Dar, which is the stop before Amsterdam. And, there was like bad turbulence coming into into Dar. Like I got out on the runway on Kelly and it's just the wind is whipping and I'm thinking this is going to be rough. So we go to Dar.

There's turbulence. We land in Dar. There's like a 35 minute period where like cleaners come on. The lights are on. People are getting off and getting on. It's that kind of awkward thing. I've taken an edible so I'm really starting to feel it. And there are three things I realize.

when we got to DAR. Number one, edibles hit really fucking hard when you don't have any food in your stomach. And when you've ex-like, dude, 20 milligrams for me is like, I barely feel it on a normal day. I took 20 milligrams and I was in the fucking matrix. It was like I was on DMT.

It honestly felt like when, you know how everybody else talks about edibles? Like regular people are like, oh my God, edible, I was like tripping balls. that's how I felt. I felt like everybody else feels on an edible. Do you like that or no? Not on the airplane.

Okay. So that was number one. Number two, we were not in Dara Salam. Okay? We were in some other city in Africa because Dara Salam, that flight has changed

and we stopped somewhere else. I'm afraid, I'm too high, I'm too afraid to ask the flight attendant where we are. It's nighttime I can't see. I just see a bunch of lights outside. I'm looking on the big KLM a fucking moving map

and I can't tell because the airplane's giant and is blocking the name of the city and I look super stone and uh you know like people are coming on and there's a vacant seat next to me and I'm like please nobody fill that seat and some European woman gets on

and sits down and I'm like fuck this is going to be rough I hope I don't have to talk to this lady how do you know she was European she was the fucking prototypical say no more yeah okay um that was the second thing I realized. The third thing arose is I had my seatbelt on for 40 minutes

like tied tight as fuck from the turbulence the whole time we were on the ground. I just realized I was sitting there like strapped in like a baby in a car seat because I tried to get up to go to make it to the bathroom to do something. And we take off and my fear of flying is officially back. Like I used to be deathly afraid of flying. It is now back from this one flight. So we take off and the pilot. Now mind you, I just have been touting the last month, like, how great the movie plane is with Gerard Butler, which is set in Africa.

And there's a lightning strike. And actually, there's the Philippines. And, you know, they land in a crash land in a remote place in the Philippines. And they have to, like, fight their way out because there's all these militia people. And as we take off, the pilot's like, hey, we're expecting a smooth flight, but there's going to be some. turbulence and this is a 10-hour flight and he doesn't really tell you that seems uh like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth exactly dude so me the thinker i am fire up the internet and i look on the on the little the forecast the east african radar and Uganda is like a big fucking green blob

there's one little narrow channel in there and i think this pilot shot the gap dude Uganda experienced a little turbulence. That's what he should have said. Uganda panic attack is what I'm calling this chapter of the trip. Because I had like an old-fashioned panic attack. Like one of those where you're trying not to shake. You're doing belly breathing. The whole thing, this guy, the first two and a half hours of the flight,

is banking right constantly and gaining altitude. The whole time, I'm like, what are we at? 60,000 feet now? And that's what happened to Gerard Butler. You know, he got to 40,000 feet. Next thing you know, he's in the Philippines. And I'm thinking to myself, like, you know, if we crashed, am I too high to lead these people out of the jungle?

You're not going to be elected captain. So do you think the people around you could tell that you were panicking? I don't know. A lot of them were sleeping. I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with these people? Haven't you seen him playing? It was bad. Like, I'm going to give myself Miller Light mentions.

I'm going to give myself the worst flight because, I mean, I was fighting a real panic attack over Uganda. And it's so bad that when I finally got to sleep, I woke up to somebody's alarm going off. Like, you know, like the loud iPhone alarm. Sure. Cowboy Reads goes off. And I wake up and I reach because I think it's my phone and I don't want to wake people up. And the Johnny Walker that I ordered to eliminate the panic attack had like this much. much left in it. A couple ice cubes. I knock it over. Oh no. On to the woman that's sleeping.

Oh. Oh. Oh. I knocked the Johnny Walker over and it's fucking like all over her blanket. And I'm like now I have to decide do I wake her up. Her alarm's going off. She smells like booze. And I'm like, I am so sorry the whole thing. But of course she's European so she doesn't want to make me feel that much better. She's like, yeah, by the way, Europeans worst air travel. travelers. Wow. Another thing I realized over there talking to a lot of porters and talking to a lot of people and I pulled some flight attendants that were Dutch. People like Americans. It's not, it's not what you think. I was expecting a lot of like, no, you guys are assholes. The Russians, the Europeans, people from India. Well, Americans have a culture of tipping than a lot of other cultures

don't have. I feel like we're also polite. Yeah. You know, we just have a lot of racism and stuff. Right. But like, you know, when you're on a plane halfway around the world, people don't know you voted for Ron DeSantis. You know what I mean? It's like, oh, that guy's polite. Yeah. So anyways, people like Americans. But not this lady so much.

I call my Johnny Walker all over her. Excuse me, Player. Yeah. So did you wake her up or the alarm woke her up? I offered her my blanket, which was probably. Like, is that even worse waking her up to tell her that she's boozy? I think it was both. Okay.

I think it was the alarm and me. Okay. Um, so anyways, massive panic attack, worst flight for me. And then I watched a lot of movies. Yeah, what did you see? I watched a lot of movies, a lot of shows. Um, I watched, uh, nobody with, well, on the way over, I watched Bone Tomahawk, which have you seen this, Matt?

I have not seen Bone Tomahawk. So it's like Western horror. Uh, and it's got, um, it's, I also watched the thing. So I caught two, uh, who's, who's the, the guy in, uh, Ackroyd? No, who's the guy in Bone Tomahawk? Kurt Russell. Billush. Kurt Russell.

I watched The Thing, which is like an 80s horror film set in Antarctica where like an alien comes down and tries to assume the life forms of everybody on the ground. You have a really weird taste in movies. Oh, it's a very good movie. It's a very good movie. Bone Tomahawks, great too. Western horror. Really good movie.

I also watched The Professional, which. What'd you think of that? Okay, so the professional. Great French actor, Jean Reno. Jean Reno, what else he's been in? He's in the Da Vinci Code, a few other things. Okay, so this guy is a hitman. He's possibly French, possibly Italian.

They never really, like, confirm. He's a hitman in the States. This has a really high Rotten Tomatoes rating. I thought this would be... I thought this would be a good movie. It was not a good movie. The name of the movie is called Leon, the professional. Leon the professional.

It has not aged well. Not a good movie. And Scott, when I walked in and said that I saw the professional, Scott said that he liked the movie. The movie's basically about this French, possibly Italian guy. He's a milk-drinking, child molesting hit man. So like all he drinks is milk. A man so far.

He's kind of in a relationship with Natalie Portman, who's 15 years old. Yeah, exactly. and he kills people. I don't know what's worse. The killing or the molestin, but he does them both. And it's just not a good movie. I like Gary Oldman in it, though.

He's crazy. I hate his character. I hate his character, dude. But Gary Oldman... He's good and everything. He's good and everything. He tried his best to be good in this movie. It's not a good movie.

Okay. Sorry, Scott. I'm what I remember of that movie, and I put some context behind it, is that I remember it being a good movie. That's what I remember. Yeah. I've seen it in a long time.

And the movie itself was, I remember being very crazy and definitely, you know, the plot and the concept is not appropriate, but I remember being good. I remember being,

like, entertaining. I just can't believe they made a movie where a grown man's in a relationship with a little girl. And it was the 90s.

They were worried that they were casting Natalie Portman a little bit too young. Yeah, 12 year old? Yes, she was, I believe.

year old. Yeah, they were like dating, dude. Nice. Bad movie. I also on the way back watched, well, was it half his age minus seven? Because that's the rule. Yeah, well, I don't think the rule applies when it's a minor. Got it. So, but to a hit man, you know, you're already going to hell. I watched nobody with, uh, with, um, Bob Odenkirk. Oh. Who's great, dude. He's great, but this movie is this movie is not great not good objectively not good like it's just not a good movie if anybody's seen uh nobody with with with bob odenkirk you probably agree with me unless you work for rotten tomatoes which i know that you don't work for rotten tomatoes but 84% my ass dude i fell asleep in the critic rating or audience reading a critic so yeah i go by audience reading i don't

trust the critic rating as generally i do but not on this movie i fell asleep during the um the penultimate fight scene. Okay, John Wick too, saw that movie. I like that. I'm not into these John Wick movies. Good. Yes. All the bad guys, they run up and they wait for him to shoot the other guy and then they get shot. They're supposed to be hit men. Yeah, it's not supposed to be like hyper-realistic. It's more like performance art. Yeah, I get it. I got that. I got that idea. I do want one of those bulletproof suits though. Yeah, sure. Like those jackets? Those are dope.

Sure. Yeah. Sure. Sure. Now, I like shoot-em-up movies. I like movies where there's a lot of killing, but you got to at least try to have a plot, and that leads me to my next viewing experience, which was House of Dragon. Yeah, House of the Dragon. Which, I want to admit something.

I was wrong. I compared it too much to Game of Thrones. I gave it a shot like months back when it was out, and I kind of shit on it. And when I got into it on an airport, plane and I had a chance to binge it. I really liked it. Like, I'm into it.

I'm like five, six episodes in. King's having a midlife crisis. You know, um, have you seen it transition to the new cast? No. All right. So you're, you're exactly like halfway through. I'm halfway through. Perfect.

That's very good. I like when they introduce the older characters. Like, Brand. Is Bran in this one? No, it's like a long time before that couple hundred years before brand. Oh, one more thing. since I'm reviewing film and like art in general. On the mountain, I don't have service, right?

A couple little spots I do. But you do have your device. I have my device for music and for taking pictures. For podcasts I download. So I download some podcasts. Yeah, but I download. What if I told you like it would mean a lot to me if you listened to last Thursday show?

Are you like, you just different set of rules for yourself? I'm just wondering. I already admitted that earlier. Okay. Yeah. I'll get to it. Okay. You don't have to.

I had to download these before I got on the mountain. So I downloaded a bunch of Dax Shepherds' pods. There you go. Yeah. Armature expert. This guy is amazing. Thank you. He's a great host.

Thank you. He's like one of the best interviewers in the game. Yeah. And I listened to Seth Rogan and Johnny Knoxville, and I fucking loved him. I thought he was awesome. And he likes Outlaw Country a lot. Nice. They were talking about Whalen.

They were talking about Johnny Cash and all these people. I think we should have Dax Shepard on. Yeah. I mean, which interviews did you listen? I just told you. Seth Rogen and Johnny Knoxville. Oh,

my bad. I thought they also had podcasts that they were, that they were, no, I thought they had their own podcast. Dax is, Dax is great. Dax is great.

He's, he's a well-read cat, and he just talks to the people. And he's really good at interrupting without interrupting. You know, like making things conversational where you like chime in

and you ad-lib, you say like a word or two to to restere the conversation but you don't stop the flow of the like he's very good at keeping it conversational you know it's not a Q&A he's he's great I'd love to have him on the show I don't know how hard he'd beat a book but let's try to do that that'd be delightful um okay so dax was great house of dragons good all the other shit pretty average are you up on last of us last of us I'm not up on so I'm excited to watch that tonight. I want to give out a hollow man from the trip before the climb. One day we availed a safari experience to the guys, and I've been on this safari.

It's like an hour outside of Arusha where we stayed. You're not going to see any of the big, big game, but you'll see like giraffes, monkeys, like the whole thing. So these guys go. I get a text in our WhatsApp, and it's a picture of a baby. baboon on top of the car. So there was a baboon that actually jumped into the safari truck because the safari trucks are like open on top. And the thing's just terrorizing the truck. And I want to give a hollow man to the driver of the safari vehicle who exited the

safari vehicle before the passengers of the vehicle were in the exit and jumped out like the guy in Saving Silverman. It was like 50, five cars back. So, Hallow Man to that guy. Like, your duty is to protect the people in the safari truck. He did not do that. Jabal Sheard supposedly did like a Superman to get out of the truck, smashed into the fucking dashboard.

Another guy did a barrel roll out of the window. The baboon just absolutely wreaked havoc on the safari truck. I want to give a Bevel Conway out to the buses of Tanzania. These buses are amazing. Like, they have a bunch of, like, mini buses and buses that carry people around. a pseudo public transportation. The infrastructure is not the same as it is here. But these buses all have like decorative stickers all over them.

Like the drivers of the buses get to decide like they pimp their own rides. Like a like a like a Apple laptop. Pretty much. It's like a water bottle. They have double deckers there? No double deckers. But the buses like and I wrote down some of the things that are on the buses, but like they'll have like pictures of ice cube on the side.

have like, you know, like a big Jesus mural with like a white Jesus, you know, or like one bus had the word anal on the front, just anal. And somebody on our bus was like, I'd like to know the context. I'm like, I'm pretty sure it just means the guy likes anal sex. So that's, you know, like there's like one bus with like, thank you dad, you know, on the front. Like it's just people are just expressing themselves. The way we dress up our now jeans, that's the way they dress up their vehicles.

So Bevel Conway is like the buses of Tanzania. And I want to give out a St. Louis Memorial. I was talking to one of my Maasai friends there. And it turns out that they get circumcised in the Maasai tribe at like 16 years old. No drugs. In fact, it's so hardcore that they bring your girlfriend and your girlfriend, you have to like maintain eye contact with your girlfriend and your girlfriend's there to make sure that you quote your legs don't shake um it's like a cultural right of passage it's a right of passage

what if you don't have a girlfriend that i could not be in the messiah tribe for that reason yeah if you don't have a girlfriend i don't know they're just going to just going to cut you okay so uh st louis memorial to all the dudes that get circumcised against the at 15 16 years no drugs nothing also I was told of a Maasai tribesman who has 350 kids. I don't know what a word I'm going to give that guy, but I want to give him a shout out. Game ball. Game ball.

Yeah, to that guy. A lot of sex. Yeah, that is a lot. Yeah. So after the climb, do you have a different perspective of how well you would do on Danny Amandola's show? I think I'd crush Danny Amandola's thing. The hardest thing for me with Danny Amandola thing was a special ops thing.

Nothing in that it looked, physically that hard and nothing in that look like it would terrify me. What I'd struggle with would be like people yelling in my face. If I could master that and Danny had some trouble with that, I think I could do it. Now, what I want to do it? Probably not. You know, you don't want to break down crying and have to sign a release that they're going to show, you know, they're going to show the world.

Kids are going to see that. Yeah, right? Just in case. Yeah. yeah so no i i could do it but do i have interest no i don't have any interest uh finish shouting out the guys on the on the trip and then you guys can catch me up on what's been going on sports here um also i want to pat myself on the back for throwing away my vape cartridges before i went through customs so i want to you're welcome u.s customs uh i was a good traveler uh jubal sheared who did not know that

in swahili his name meant rock so That's awesome. Yeah, he learned that on this trip. Ali Marpet, who retired early. He was a Bucks Guard, great player, great guy. He did great on the climb. Jabal also summited, no problem, did well. It was hard.

He said he's never coming back, but he did well. Ben Derry, Air Force, guy was awesome. A lot of fun. Ben Powers, so I told you about Captain America. He performed a surgery on the side of the mountain. Christopher Ferenholtz Army guy actually was stationed

where the thing was set in Antarctica pretty cool stories there Micah Sneed my tentmate Marine Nathan held Army great guy

Thomas Gerhardt is a pod listener Thank you Thomas Yeah he's an army dude He was in Restrepo Like has Yeah he's seen some shit And he listens to Greenlight Pod

and he was a great addition to climb so I want to shout out Thomas Gerhardt and then three Charlottesville guys Blair Rick Rick and Pete Blair Kelly Rick Peralt and Pete Snyder who worked over the cash to climb with vets and players so

again if you're at home you want to join us one year find $15,000 under the mattress between the cushions there and you got a shot sounds like an awesome trip man It is an awesome trip. I'm excited about softball. That's what I have here in my notes.

We already talked about that, didn't we? Yeah. Feels like we did. Did we? Yes, we did. Yeah, you guys hooked this up for a softball team. Macon's going to be the scorekeeper. Scorekeeper, that's right.

Listen, I want to play. After Tales of Conquering Killie, I think I might... You think you can do softball. Yeah, I think I might play some softball. Good, good, good, good. Good news. The Thursday show we do with Amp,

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next to all the coaches' offices. Only player to have an office and he told his teammates, hey, fellas, my door is always open. to you guys. To which a teammate who wished to be anonymous in this athletic article said, you know, generally that's like where the dudes are at their lockers in the locker room, like the doors always open, had his own quarterbacks coach, had his own physical therapist, had his own mental wellness cat, all in the building, all on the payroll.

He had more guys than Brady. more guys and Brady yeah and you're not gonna believe this but it didn't work out they only won a few games and the coach got fired in week 15 Sean Payton in a sense

said you know we're not gonna make those combinations you can't have your own you can't have your own office I know some people say well Brett Far have had one that doesn't make it okay Brett what you know

you're gonna fucking in this office Brett Far's not the guy to copy anyway to be like yeah yeah yeah yeah he had an entire wall of only motivational quotes

that he would write out right on the wall no yes Really? An entire wall. He would just write motivational clothes. Don't worry. He's fixing.

He hired a new publicist. Yeah, I know there's some people now that are like, they want to explain everything away. And yeah, you just can't, dude. You can't have your own office.

You can't separate yourself from the team. You can't be like, you know, cult of personality in an NFL locker room. I mean, come on. Not surprising, though. Yeah.

Actually, yesterday, something that I thought was really cool came out where basically the NFL had every player complete a survey about their own workplace where they went through eight different categories like treatment of families nutrition weight room strength staff training room training staff locker room and travel this is the first year that the NFL has done this uh the main goal of it is to like let players know what type of workplace they might be entering in free agency and like if you've only ever played for the Bengals where you get charged for dinner yeah and

it goes back to your payrolls. The Bengals, he had charged for dinner? Yeah. I thought it was a Cardinal. Sorry, the Cardinals get, the Bengals won't even give you dinner. They'll close it down on off days. Wow.

So hopefully this creates a lot of changes, but we did see a couple. The NFL PA did this, is that right? Right. Okay. A couple teams came out looking great. Like the Vikings were on top, along with the Dolphins and Raiders.

A few teams came out looking not so good, like the Chargers, Cardinals and Commanders, especially. How about the Chiefs at 29? It was like, wow, this is a pro football facility. Like, this is a pro football operation. So they got 32.

Yeah. They've got tough geography, it feels like. Ashburn. Yeah. No, you could fucking, you could blow it out up there. The problem's Dan Snyder. For sure, I'm just saying, like, the facility's in a different state and stadium. No question.

You like everything to be. I do. Well, the players graded their locker room at an F-minus. I don't even know there's enough minus. There isn't enough minus. But apparently there was not enough hot water, so people were taking cold showers. Oh, C-Long would love that.

Water boys need to go to Ashburn. Yeah. Yeah, a couple other highlights. Jacksonville actually had a rat infestation, which caused their locker room to get enough. So it doesn't surprise me that they have a rat infestation. I don't know why.

Food left on the floor. Seems like a ratty city. Bengals didn't offer dinner, close the cafeteria on days off, Cardinals offered box dinner but charge the players for him. Kansas City training staff given a D-minus. That's going to be awkward when you go back to camp. Yeah.

The one group that was uniformly graded really highly was strength and conditioning. Almost everybody got a beer above except for the Falcons and Ravens. Go back to the strength and conditioning. Would you trust that this would stay anonymous? Would you fill this out completely accurate? Yes. Yes, it gets through the PA. A lot of A's A pluses.

Go down to the Patriots. Hmm. B plus. Yeah. A guy up there is killing those boys. A weight room D in New England. How did you find the weight room? D, they got a D? D.

Yeah, second lowest weight room grade behind the F minus of the Cardinals. Interesting, I thought the weight room was fine. How did they compare to say Philly? Philly had a really nice, spacious weight room. Okay. But if you were a player going into free agency, is this something you would look at?

Yeah, for sure. For sure. But again, you know, if the Cardinals are going to pay me $100 million guaranteed, I'll buy my own dinner. Right. Some other NFL news, top prospect Jalen Carter, an arrest warrant has been put out for him for an alleged role in a fatal January car crash. So I saw this.

Number one, is this like, does Todd McShay now get a bunch of apologies? What did Todd say? You remember when Todd McShay was like, yeah, they're a character. concerns and everybody was like, Todd, you're a bad guy, you know, you're driving this guy stocked down for somebody that. Did he say this before or after the accident? Mm, quite good question. Can somebody triangulate that for me? Here's the thing for me. It's not the thing for me. One of the things about this is that they clearly tried to embarrass the guy with the timing of the warrant because he was in Indianapolis for the combine. The other person

who was brought up on the same charges of reckless driving for allegedly racing, which led to this crash, has already, he took care of this a week ago. Yeah. He appeared, paid a bond and was not. I'm not blaming him for the deaths of the two people

that lost their lives, because those two people were doing the same thing he was doing. It wasn't like Jalen Carter was like, I mean, I presume the ringleader, like let's go race, let's go Tokyo drift on the streets of Athens. I just fucking hate this, dude. I see all the time on Instagram

videos of people speeding through traffic, the comment section, I'm always looking for people like voices of reason and if there ever is one, the masses shout this person down, like shut up, you're no fun. You know, what kind of, this is America. You're supposed to be able to go 120 in a 55

and run red lights. No, you're not. Can we stop doing this? Like, you endanger everybody on the road. Like, so I'm not terribly, what would the word be, compassionate when it comes to how Jalen Carter's stock is going to be affected by this. Because I think it's a very bad, dangerous thing, dude. Like, now, how does this translate to what kind of a teammate he is?

I don't think everybody in the wake of Todd McShay's comments, which, I don't know, did they come before or after the crash? Before the crash. So yikes. So maybe Todd McShay doesn't get vindicated here, but maybe he was right. Everybody came out after the fact and said he's a great teammate, he's a great guy.

You can be all those things and still do incredibly stupid, reckless things that endanger other people. And I think that's kind of what you're looking at here. So if his stock drops, I'm not going to be the one to say, I feel bad for Jalen Carter. This is something that people, have to stop doing dude there there are families on the road um i got kids in the fucking car i like

i just don't get it i don't get it no there's something messed up in our culture that glorifies it i hate it like this isn't even nearly as bad but a compilation of lamello ball leaving the charlotte hornets coliseum and just running red lights repeatedly what are we doing and people are glorifying it and i'm like because he has a gold fucking car dangerous like you're putting other people at risk yeah look at look at the Henry Rugg's details that came out this week. Yeah. You know, it's bad. It's all bad.

Stop doing it, dude. I don't know if anybody listening to this pod street races, but fuck off, dude. Last NFL topic, I know you heard about Aaron Rogers' darkness retreat that was scheduled for four days, ended after two. Ask Makin if he'd like to go in a darkness retreat. He said yes to catch up on sleep. How do you think you'd do? Me?

Yeah. Not so good. You know, just to, like, not have anything to do for four days. I'd love to go to a cabin in the woods for four days. Well, that's, I think that is what it was. So, yeah, so he's not sitting in a dark room for four days with no sunlight. What I read, what I read, he can go outside, take walks. It sounded pretty fun.

Oh, yeah. Well, fuck. Again, I want to reiterate the point that he's obviously not married. Like, that won't fly. Right. If you're married. No. Every married man would love to go on a darkness retreat.

but you know he had a meditation mat yeah I could do it if it's all that does a meditation mat differ from a yoga mat you think I don't know did he come out of this

with some revelation is he gonna yeah because I saw retirement reports he said he was going to come to a decision quote soon enough end quote soon enough um

yeah no I'm not I'm not moved by the darkness retreat Nice. Well, I know for a long time listeners of this program, you'll know that Chris is a Phillies fan and Macon is a diehard Blue Jays fan. Yeah, go Jays. We have corporate Scott in here, baseball expert, has his own Yankees podcast, Bronx Pinstripes. What do you guys think collectively of all these new baseball rules or do you even know them? I haven't heard them. Scott, can you help us out? Let us know what the changes are. Bases are thick. Paces are thick. Yeah, let's whip around to some of them. There's actually a lot of changes.

I think one of the big reasons is pace of play. Yeah. The speed of the game, people are not feeling the three and a half, four hours, especially if Yankees Red Sox are playing. They're like three and a half four hour games. They are marathons, but they've done a lot of pace of play stuff. So big one here is the pitch clock. Pitcher has a clock now.

They have to be on the rubber, have to start their motion at a particular time for the clock to stop. Within this clock, the batter has to, be ready and in the box at eight seconds. At that eight second mark, the umpire gets a buzz. He has a little buzzer. And if he's not in there, then he can call a called strike. No matter what the situation, actually one of the spring training games ended in a tie because third called strike was because the guy was not ready and the game ended.

Yikes. In spring training. No more, no more never would have made it to the bigs. Yeah, constantly wiggling his ass, one foot out of the box. So yeah, we'll take a couple of them. a time. But that's a big one. That's a big one because it has a lot of different ramifications, not only for the pitcher. The pitcher's got to be ready. And then the batters have to be ready. And what they've been running this in the minor leagues for years now. And they've seen a dramatic

difference. So it's like two and a half hours about that average time, whereas before it was close to three. So you're shaving off 30 minutes, 20 to 30 minutes, isish for a game. I like it. I like it. I like it. I like it. Yeah. For it. And I'm usually, You know, I'll, I go back and forth sometimes with my baseball purest thoughts, but this one I think is good. I think it's good for the game. Too many guys take liberties. What's a bad one?

The quote, Ghost Runner is staying. That one's now enforced. So extra innings come. Hate it. Runner on second. Hate it. Yeah. Hate it.

It's also not a ghost runner. So real human. I would just appreciate if they would actually call it what it was. Yeah. Human being on second. Ghost man is wiffleball literally when you're playing one-on-one. Yeah. your brother or neighbor and there's a dude on second dude on third yeah i'm gonna interject

a quick because i actually like that one like if you're going to a game last call is the seventh inning when you get to the end of the ninth inning and it's tied like you could be there for a couple more hours potentially you have no idea how long yeah i'm in jail he loves these fucking marathons like i i don't know people at the games maybe not so much not in the postseason i love turning on sports center as they run through inning 10 through 17 yeah the the team, I would like to see the data on how many games the visiting team won last year, because I feel as though they get up in the top of the 10th, and then psychologically, the home team's like, oh man, we're down and extras, and they end up losing.

Yeah. So just a little note out there. If it goes to extras, hammer the visiting team. Okay. Yeah, well, we'll run the numbers on. Monitor that. So one of the ones that goes along with the pitch clock is the size of the size of the of the bases. The size of the bases is now increased. Player safety is the reason they did it,

you know, giving more room so that there's not as many collisions. There's not as many, you know, action happening at the bag where guys are getting stepped on. But here's the big thing for me is now between first and second base and second and third base. Yeah. There's a four and a half inch difference shorter. So four and a half inches and you think of all these bang, bang plays that you happen at second base. Those are safe by. I like this. Yeah. Yeah. Stolen bases. Yeah. It's good. A lot of action. Yeah, it's more action. It's good.

I think sole bases are going to be up big time. And if you think about now, because the pitch clock, one night I neglected is that the pitcher also can only throw over three times. Yeah. If he doesn't get the guy in the third time. Yeah, you got a pitch. It's a balk, which means.

Oh, really? It's a balk. So he gets second. Let's say there's a situation where there's first and third. He doesn't, if he goes to throw out that guy and pick him off at first base, doesn't get him in the third, runner scores. So big situation. Also, you know,

when you can steal pretty easily. That's the other thing. You're playing a game now. There's a pitcher. You don't even want to get to that second time because you know the third time is a much higher risk. So you're looking at a situation now where the runners can take bigger leads

and they have a shorter path to the base. They're going to be up. You're going to see flying around the base paths. It's like mid-90s or late 80s baseball. Accurate catchers with big arms just became more valuable. You're going to see that. very interested to see how that works because

there's no difference between the pitcher's mound and the catcher so you're not, they're at a huge disadvantage. You're going to see a lot of guys. But second base is is second base four inches closer to home plate? It is, but if the runner is sliding to the outside of the bag, I feel you. Towards center

field, now you have a larger gap to sweep. I feel you. So you could look at it a bunch of different ways. The other huge one is the shift. The shift is no longer. Thank God. Everybody on the position when your shortstop has to stay on the shortstop side of second base, second base has to stay on the second side of second base. And so everybody's playing more straight up,

which means all of these things, you're going to see a lot more base hits. You're going to see a lot more doubles in the gap. You're going to see a lot more contact. So I think what they're doing is shying away from the three true outcomes, which is strike out, home run, or one, which I love, because this is fun baseball. You see athleticism is now on display.

guys who can play their positions and have good, good range, they're gonna be, they're gonna be shined upon, right? You know, the goal line extends to heaven, just gotta break the plane? The second base also extend all the way to the wall, like you can't sneak somebody out into right field. So the other part of the shift is you have to be on the dirt. Nice, okay, baseball.

Pretty straight up, pretty straight up. Make it some moves. I like it. That's gonna change the value of a ton of different hitters. Like the guys that pull the ball, that's gonna make them so much more valuable than they were, previously. You know, one of the things we talk about on our show a lot is Mark DeShera's career basically ended offensively because he couldn't get to that base hit over first base

anymore. So he tried to pull out. Everybody tried to hit over the shift. That's why you see launch angle has been massive in the game. Right. And now guys are going to be, you know, rewarded for being able to go gap to gap, you know, hitting a lot more line drives, hitting the ball on the ground with good velocity. So yeah, I think it's going to be fun. Overall, there's a lot of things going on and, you know, people will cry about everything. But at the same time, these guys, spring training is here to get them used to it. Right. They'll get into the routine. They'll get into the flow of things. And the fact that the umpire is called a guy out to end the game in spring training, I love that because now, hey, by the way, this is going to happen. Yeah. We're going to

enforce this. Yeah. Scared straight. Yeah. You got to show it early. So I'm excited for it. A couple years ago, the NBA said, hey, no more talking back. We're going to tee up. And they did that for like about a and now they don't do that anymore. So stick with it, you know, be consistent. And they tried that with baseball. So there was a timer where you had to be in the box. You couldn't get out of the box. Constantly guys getting out of the box.

Never really enforced it. Right. This is now the box, getting in the box being set at the eight second mark is now associated with the pitcher as well. So they have to enforce it. Good stuff for baseball. Speaking of hoops, just a couple quick basketball updates for you. I know you haven't paid attention.

all season anyway, so it won't be any different. But Lakers started making their playoff push, and LeBron injured his foot and is out indefinitely. Oh, no. By started making their playoff push, do you mean LeBron just said, hey. LeBron said, hey, these are the 23 most important games of my career.

I'm not used to missing the playoffs two years in a row. That was the push. I feel bad, but they actually did look good after some of these trades, though, like, one game, they were all healthy. who'd they get who they pick up uh malik beasley and jared vanderbilt how could i forget yeah exactly

and ruy atramura and dame scored 71 i heard about that so a couple days before he was stuck on the plane they couldn't leave he did this amazing freestyle rap that you got to check out and then dropped 71 just the next day and then there's a lot of talk right now about uh nicola jokicch yeah perhaps winning his third MVP I saw the Perkins thing. Kendrick Perkins and JJ Reddick.

Is Kendrick saying like the only guys that weren't top five in scoring that won the MVP were white guys? So that's why people want Yokic to be the... Yeah, so there's a lot of discussion about a race as a factor in MVP voting, which historically it may have been. But right now his numbers are pretty incredible. Yeah. I know. I know why. They're not as good generally. but yeah a little bit of this league a little bit of this league this this this worldwide leader in sports

back and forth between j jay and kendrick yeah i saw that and then before we go there's a couple movies that are out or coming out that i wanted to ask you about our intern foshae was saying that a lot of people are checking out this movie cocaine bear any interest in that yeah absolutely no what are the reviews wildly positive wildly positive reviews across the board I mean you might need to see basically Leon the professional to understand the origin story

but it is apparently very much worth your two hours and 15 minutes 2 15 I don't know something around that 2 15 somebody did ask me to explain like a baseball game what the movie was and basically all I could muster was that it appears to be a bear that finds a significant amount of cocaine.

That's right. Finds out he likes the cocaine. And then it seems like there's a lot of violence with this bear just going on a Coke bender. Hour and 35 minutes of caffeinated grizzly bear. A fucking, geez, I'll see it. I'll see it for sure. And of course the bear likes cocaine.

Right. Based on a true story. Yeah. Bears eating berries all day. A brick of cocaine. I mean, imagine how wired you would be after, you know, like a couple blueberries, a couple strawberries, and then just a brick of cocaine. Imagine how bad you'd want to find more cocaine and you have no idea where to find it.

I think he really wants to find the cocaine. Yeah. Yeah. Have you guys done cocaine? I've never done cocaine. I've never done cocaine. All right. You guys want to see Creed three?

Creed three. Haven't seen the first two. No, thank. All right. Nothing against it. I just, I don't know. Yeah. Here's what I want to watch.

It's March and there's madness and it's conference tournament season. Click it on. Is this coming out Thursday or Friday? Thursday. Thursday, great. A sun tonight, Kennesaw State, Lipscomb.

I think they got Lipscomb, little eastern Kentucky Liberty. Nice. Oh, it's electric. I love it. You've been gambling? Yeah, you're back. I'll talk to you about it off.

Fair. Okay. Good to have you back, man. Hey, shout out to Bellarmine. Okay. Don't know where you are. Don't know who your mascot is. Got you back on the, on the winning side. Belerman had a bit of a buzzer beater. Oh, a university. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, they're in Louisville. Probably better than Louisville this year. Yeah, Louisville is there like four wins. No, I'm not gambling money on sports. However, Have I told the story about Utah Valley? No. I've got this friend, I call him Backy. And we found out earlier in the year that all Utah Valley does is cover.

And so he started to buy some swag. That's why I wear the Utah Valley hat. People think it's a region in Utah. And they're like, oh, you travel out west? I'm like, nah, it's a basketball team that covers, you know? And I just saw a brackatology, 413 projection, Virginia and, in Utah Valley. Oh, boy.

And that's a problem because Utah Valley's beaten whoever they have in the first round. They'll just cover. It'll be like plus 13. You're right. You're right. That's a possible outcome. Yeah. Because that's what we do anyways.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nine would be a little comfy. Yeah, yeah, it would be a blowout. Yeah, I'm excited for that. Cool. Anything else, guys? There is one thing that I did while you were gone that you got to do.

Okay. Different drug. Dr. Faxx brought me. to the local pop-up shop. You honestly should go. It's a really cool scene. When's the next one? Friday.

Okay, I'm going. Thanks. Because I'm going to the beach in a couple days. Oh, Jesus. Are we doing this all over again? No, I'll be able to podcast from the beach. I'm good for like one show a year, I think.

Yeah, okay. I'm still, is that a Popeye's worker doubled over in exhaustion? I'm still that. You know, our beloved waffle house, has disbanded. You mean the tobacco castle? The tobacco castle.

So the Waffle House where I spent my, you know, 20 hours or whatever it was, by the way, can't wait to share the experience with you. Can't wait. I will have to do the one on 29 North, obviously, because this is now the tobacco castle. They just, I mean, they went, like, the building hasn't changed at all. And the lettering is yellow. Yeah. Just like the Waffle House.

Same font. Yep. It just says tobacco castle now. From the house to the castle. So anyways, yeah, RIP. Maybe the tobacco is now a front for the waffles. Fifth Street extended Waffle House, rest and peace. All right, guys.

We will see you next week early. Talk maybe a little bit more about the combine, be basketball and talk about maybe a guest. Just wanted to catch up today. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Good to have you back. Okay, good to be here. Take care.

Thank you.