Green Light with Chris Long - Chris Simms! 2021 NFL Draft QB Breakdown, Best Beer-Drinking QBs. Long Family Gets a Dog. Mailbag.

Episode Date: March 9, 2021

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All right, guys, I'm going to start this pot a little bit differently than usual. Enjoy the pod. It was a lot of fun talking to Chris Sims. The mailbag was solid, that sort of thing. But this is the important thing. I don't want to sound like an infomercial. I'm going to talk to you about my foundation. Our Hallmark initiative is Water Boys.

If you listen to this pot, if you know me at all, you might know the work we do in East Africa. We do work here domestically. And we are trying to deliver access to clean water to people who need it the most. And a lot of the people that need it the most are women and girls. lot of the people that bear the brunt of gathering that water that's so sorely needed around the world are women and girls. So we are launching water for her. Waterforher.org is where you can check out more information on it. It's an effort to mobilize 100,000 women here at home to empower 100,000 women and girls through access to clean water. And these women need help. Like I said, women bear the brunt of the

responsibility of gathering dirty or clean water. And not only is that strenuous women in sub-Saharan Africa waste 40 billion hours a year gathering water. Imagine a world where the best and the brightest of our communities are at home and not trekking halfway around the world to get clean water. I mean, you're talking about journeys of four or six miles a day in the areas that we work and they're dangerous and women are spending time away from their families, away from their communities and girls are spending time out of school. You know, with all the challenges women have in this world, we don't need to heap another one on young girls and take them out of the school in oftentimes very impoverished communities

in rural areas. You know, this is a big deal. This is a women's issue. And also, women have supported water boys through and through, no questions asked, every turning the road. You know, yes, it has been an initiative that has served everyone, but women deserve their own avenue here. And that's what Water for Her delivers. And it's got the influencers to back that up and the ambassadors to back that up already. So I'm very excited. Check that lineup out. And again, go to waterforher.org. Anything you give helps, but you can see

we have a couple of options there on the website. And you also don't have to give anything. This is a weird time to be asking people for money, but this has been in the works for a couple years. And so if you're listening and you know, you want to learn more, check it out. And I do want to shout out my lovely wife, Meg, who has been kicking ass when it comes to this thing and taking names and literally taking names. And that's how we've been landing some of these awesome women to lend their platforms. My wife has been great behind the scenes for years in my foundation. but I'm really excited that she's going to get the credit for something here because she deserves it. This is a great program.

It's in good hands with Meg Long. And she's doing that with the help of two very important women that I want to shout out, Nicole and Kim, who are the backbone of the Chris Long Foundation. So, yeah, I'm surrounded by kick-ass ladies. And also, we got a lot of women listening this pod. So check it out, waterfor her. Okay, it's Tuesday I got so I was just

I was just sitting here I'm so tired of opening the show Happy Tuesday or whatever Yeah it's Tuesday How about that Second day of the week Or third Depending on how you look at it

But yesterday was a cool day Yesterday was Monday Yesterday was International Women's Day You just heard about Our Water for Her initiative In the cold open Check that out And by the way, big shout out to Julie Ertz.

She is one of our ambassadors and a big shout out to Mina Kimes, who is doing a painting for everyone that gives $500 and over. Georgia O'Keefe, let's go. Let's go. I need like a thousand people. Like, Mina Kimes is a great artist. She's a great artist. So go get your Mina Kimes art.

It's only going to cost you $500. hundred bucks. Let's have her painting like 24 hours a day. Okay. She's going to get like arthritis, rheumatoid arthritis from this campaign. I love you, Mina. Appreciate you. But, you know, again, big shout out to all the ambassadors that are helping us out. And, you know, it's a big part of what we hope to stand for. And a special shout out to Nicole Woody and Kim Packett of the Chris Long Foundation. Really lucky to have those two on the team.

We do have Chris Sims coming up in a little bit Pro Football Talk Live with Mike Florio. We're gonna talk about his quarterback list from last week. Try to get him last week, guys. My man was booked really fast. That's how newsy this list was. And the reason it's newsy and the reason people care is because he's been nailing this stuff the last couple years. It's kind of like a more accurate Punksitani Phil of Groundhog Day fame.

He knows what's going on with these QBs coming out of college. And he ruffled a few feathers last week when he said that Zach Wilson, he'll be the better pro quarterback out of the two, Trevor Lawrence and Zach Wilson. Or maybe it's going to be somebody else. I don't know, but Chris watches a ton of film. So we'll get him on and we'll talk this draft class as well as a couple of NFL questions. So another thing that is north of a housekeeping item

is getting a dog, okay? I got a dog, secured the dog. We talked about it last week. The dog's name is Willie. we acquired Willie and signed him up to a lifetime deal

so welcome to Long family Willie shout out to Willie and you know something too I was talking to Cowboy Read about this something to being an adult and getting a puppy versus you know being a kid

and getting a puppy you know that drunken kind of like oh my God we got a small animal it's going to walk next to me everywhere feeling like and that's it That is the depth of what you're thinking about when it came to acquiring another living thing to live in the house. Like when you get a puppy as an adult, yes, the puppy is adorable, but the puppy is also going to be pissing a lot. The puppy's also going to be nibbling a lot, eating a lot of shoes.

Puppies going to be up in the middle of the night. You can call me call me callous. I'm just being pragmatic. That also weighs into the equation. So I'm not saying puppies aren't cute as hell and I'm not super excited about getting the puppy. But this is the first puppy I've gotten as an adult where it's not really, it's not all for me. This is kind of a gift, you know, for the little guys. It's a little bit different feeling.

It's still awesome. This has been a really exciting 48 hours. It's just kind of drained. I haven't slept a lot. My wife slept even less. So definitely shout out to her. She's been that dog's best friend, the last 48. But after the kids go down, you're exhausted and you're laying there and the dog's tired too because of the kids and you're tired because of the dog and it's like a circle of exhaustion.

And then like I had that moment of realization where you're like, holy shit, this dog's going to be around here for, you know, until whaling goes to college pretty much. Waylon's five. I'm like, you know, these labs. I don't know, new genics and technology over the next 15 years, dog might be living in 25. I don't know. Hope so. But, you know, that moment, you're like, damn, dude, you start thinking about it that way.

This dog's going to be around a while. We're going to get to know each other. So I'm hyped about having a new friend in the house. And, yeah, you can't help but feel like, man, you just took the plunge a little bit. It doesn't mean you probably listen and being like, God damn, dude, you got a puppy. You can go to prison.

It's not that. It's just you have to think about the responsibility. It's a living thing. And I kind of feel bad the first couple days you take a dog home. You know, I know you probably know exactly what I mean. Well, first you kind of like leave the parking lot and you pull away and you see like the mom and dad in the yard. And you're like, oh, puppy you're going to be so happy. And the puppy's like scared shitless and you're like wrapped it up in a blanket like, oh, he's probably warm.

No, he's just terrified. and then he gets to like a new house, new smells, little human beings just terrorizing them. I feel bad for dogs. And then, you know, like, crate training, a puppy, if you do that is like the pinnacle of stoicism. For that cute little dog to whimper and bark and you just got to like sit there and it's right there by the bed and you don't let it out of the crate and up into the bed. I feel like a serial killer, like completing the task. So I feel bad for the dog, but that's going to fade. And, you know, puppy responsibility is big time. That's all I'm saying. And on the one hand,

that's very sobering. But on the other hand, I can post pictures of this thing all the time. So you guys are going to be hammered with puppy pictures. You know, I'm kind of getting a weird these days about posting pictures of my kids because you're just like I know some guys that don't even post pictures of their families period in the media or players and um that's there's definitely a fine line there personally for me but I'm getting to the the point now with my kids is like I kind of want to take less and less pictures in them you can have all the pictures of my dog in the world you can have the whole camera roll looks like most other labs it's cute as can be it's the chocolate lab by the way english with the little boxy face thick dude man when i when me and meg went to

pick him up um in culpepper we round the corner into the yard and there's like five of these little little miniature grizzly bears running around the backyard and uh five of them are just accosting us and then the other one willie uh is just napping in the uh in the sun and uh paws are like the size of my hands and he just is not he's not putting out the effort he wasn't thirsty and i was like this is my kind of guy i mean um dude is just hanging out uh not selling himself so we found him and we took him home uh yeah we got a dog and the great thing about dogs is as i said i will be posting i already posted naturally the first time when you get home you have to post a picture of a new dog and usually where you go you go to do that is Twitter.

Instagram doesn't care as much. Like Instagram people are on there looking at like pictures of girls or like sports memes or you know just scrolling mindlessly. They really don't give a shit about your dog on Instagram. On Twitter, that's like a big thing. And dog Twitter is amazing. First off, I saw every white person's dog in America. I'm pretty sure.

I saw everybody's lab. I was like, great. And there's a lot of cute dogs out there. So shout out to the people who sent me pictures of their dogs when I made the announcement. Dog Twitter is just so chilling positive. I kind of likened it to the dudes in World War I

who like stop trench warfare for the day. If you know history, Christmas, one of those 19, teen years. Christmas Day The Germans and somebody decided like fuck this We're tired of shooting at each other from like trenches

We're going to play soccer for a day So they go from like machine gunning each other down To kick in a ball at each other That's what dog Twitter reminds me of It's like we're going to get back to calling people motherfuckers And correcting each other incessantly In about five minutes But for now

Here's my golden retriever show me your dog and have a great day and then like five minutes later the timeline is just toxic but that's what dog twitter is it's an island and we should hey whatever we've got going and in that five minutes you're spending in dog twitter that's what we that could that little thing like bottle that we could save the world man shout out to dog twitter um housekeeping items Nicholas Cage got married again. Congratulations to him. And I was sitting there thinking about the fact

that he hasn't been canceled yet for something. It kind of blew my mind. I love Nicholas Cage to death. I just, I'm praying he doesn't get canceled. And if he gets canceled and I can't joke about him at some juncture, I'm going to be so depressed. So just take that for what it is. Keep it in between the lines, Nick.

Congratulations. on another marriage. I believe you got married in Vegas. I love Nicholas Cage, man. And listen, I was sitting around there watching NASCAR Sunday afternoon doing Legos with, okay, my kids got a rat tail. And the TV just happened to have NASCAR on.

But Whalen and I were doing Legos. We were building a camper van, so we were doing a campsite. Oh, God. We were doing a campsite Lego thing, kid rat tail NASCAR on but one of the announcers because I wasn't looking at the cars

driving around a circle I was into NASCAR this summer I'm still kind of into NASCAR but I was more I was super excited about them and banning the Confederate flag and all that so I got the intimidators sandals and that sort of thing but I got to be honest I've been busy I haven't watched a lot of races

I had a race on the announcer is talking about the cars driving us circle, look at the blue car, and he's like, and Anthony Alfredo, I'm like, what? What did you say? That's the guy's name. There's a driver named Anthony Alfredo. I was hooked. I just, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I read his life story, big fan.

I was looking for a favorite NASCAR driver last year. I hadn't gotten around to it yet. I think I'll do Anthony Alfredo. Why not? They call the guy fast pasta. I want to make him the official NASCAR driver at the Greenlight Pod right here. We need a sounder read

for when somebody becomes the official something of this podcast because it happens often enough. But Anthony Alfredo, fast pasta, coolest nickname in sports. Throwing his hat in the ring, dude. Anthony Alfredo, pride of Connecticut, I believe.

pride of Ridgefield, Connecticut. He's 21, the young, young stunner. Oh my God, dude, the guy was born in 1999. God, I'm old. Oh, man. I love the dude, man. Hey, somebody said he's not well-funded. How do we fund him?

How do we fund fast pasta? Guys got sauce. And he tweeted at me. Reid, he tweeted at me, bro. he knows he knows about the green light pot he's a friend of the program uh he's got to come join us here pretty soon he does have to he does have to join us and i have a perfect way for him to join us here very soon and i'll tell you about it in a few minutes um i'm excited about that one too it's in the mailbag haven't done a straight mailbag in a while

so read roulette has been dominant um reed has just been 30 a 30 a night for us 20 and 10 big man down low low post doing the dirty work read roulette yeah so got a dog love dog twitter we got an official NASCAR driver uh anthony alfredo without further ado let's get to Chris and then we got a mailbag all right Chris Sims is here so it's going to be a podcast about nepotism and drug addiction uh I think what we're going to talk about we got a lot in common right what up Chris what's up Chris how you doing man I'm doing good you know, doing good. I just, I was just on a long hiatus like of, of like detox, you know, because I'm, I'm kind of like a detox retox kind of guy. Like I detox all week and then I

retox on the weekend. The pandemic got me a little off kilter with my life where I was smoking maybe a little more than I would like. So like one of the things I said was like for my New year's resolution is like, I'm going to take a break. So I took a little break and this back last weekend was my first weekend back on it. So it was a fun weekend. The other ones were boring. So you retoxed the entire length of the pandemic, which is a year. I found myself retoxing, but but I'm already retoxing anyways. So let me ask you a question. Do you feel clear or headed as you're going toe to toe with Florio? No, you know, that's the always the thing too. You're always like, man, I wonder if I stopped. I'd probably, you know, feel better when I work out

and I probably would be thinking more clearly. But then when you stop, you realize like, no, I'm the same airhead and just as much out of breath I am when I'm totally sober as when I'm, you know, going strong and having fun at nighttime or whatever. So I've gone through that before. It's, it's, it doesn't always tend to be true that way. Has Florio ever admitted to, uh, the, the devil's lettuce at any point in his life? I, yes, he has. It's one time in his life. And it was like back in college. So it's like he's one of those. Did it one time. He's got like a war story how he passed out for like 12 hours, right? And he's never done it again. It worked. What the fuck? You passed out for 12 hours.

I know. Like if something make me pass out for 12 hours, I'm running back to it every time. The question is if he has a charity near and dear to his heart, we could put, we could like, we could leverage, hey, we'll donate X if you'll do a pod with the Chris's. And we could have him burn one down. What do you think? you we can pull on his heartstrings a little bit. Do you know about his charitable interest? Oh, I think we could definitely do that. I feel like I don't even need to go all that hard.

If I can just get them to my house, you know, on a Thursday or Friday night, once the pandemic's over for a little dinner. I'm going to try to peer pressure him right there and just to see if I can get him. And I like my chances. I think I might be able to make it happen. Do you think that he's jealous of the guy in Yellowstone with his little homestead out there in West Virginia? does he want to be Kevin Costner in Yellowstone, the West Virginia version of Kevin Coston? I haven't seen that show yet. It sucks.

Don't watch it. People are going to be mad because a lot of people like it, but it's like a, it's, it's like a soap opera. If you're in a soap operas, by all means. Well, that's not him. He's not in a soap opera. I mean, his soap opera is pro football talk. It's playing out in front of us, right?

So that's his. But as far as like everything else like real life, like, no he's got this great house supposedly on top of the hill and he's king of the town and it's just like he only lets like a few close friends and family in there and he shut out from the rest of the world so he's total big fish in the small pond just how he likes it just how he likes it well he's not far from me i might have to we might have me and him might have to do a homestead and homestead because i got some acreage out here a few hours down the road and we can compare but um you've been crushing it with the QB stuff. I wanted to have you on for a while. And then last week, I was like,

man, this list is amazing. And then I'm going back and looking at your other list. And I'm saying to myself, like, this guy nails it every year. I had no idea because I kind of stay out of the QB stuff. QB stuff has become like politics on Twitter. I just try to stay out of it as much as I can. You're right. It has. So when you pick a guy like Zach Wilson first in your list, do you think that you're the only person that thinks this or the only person with the balls to say it? I feel like maybe it's part of the second part that I have the balls to say it. Now, you know, one thing is I, of course, hey, I feel confident and that I've gotten some other guys right like you talked about in previous years, right? Where I put my name out there with the Josh Allen's.

I said Patrick Mahomes was the guy that year. you know, Lamar Jackson last year Justin Herbert over Tua. So that gives me the confidence to go, hey, trust yourself, you know, we've been down this road before. It's like we're in cycle repeat. Chris is going to release their list. He's going to get shit on by everybody. And then we're going to do it all again next year.

And we'll see, you know, hopefully I'm right. But also like, I think you could speak to this too. I know, I've been around it my whole life. You know, you lived with the defensive linemen. You practiced with them. You saw other ones growing up. So you knew what it was what it's like. What's the body type? You know, what are the specific movements and strength things that you know just with your little nuanced eye that you're confident in looking at those positions and being able to maybe pick them apart better than others, right? Same for me. I mean, so I have that confidence

too to go, wait, I was around Phil Sims my whole life. You know, I worked in New England and caught passes from Tom Brady, let alone was on the field against a, against the, you know, saw Peyton Manning in person. When I was little, I was at the quarterback challenge and caught passes from Dan Marino and Brett Farr. So I guess what I'm saying is I'm a little confident in my history and being able to maybe say those things to go along with it. And, you know, for this particular conversation, you know, Trevor Lawrence is really awesome. I don't want it to be lost in the fact that he's worthy of being the number one pick. He is that he's awesome. I just look at Zach Wilson as being awesomer. I really do. And I look at his ability as more

high end and more transferable to different offenses than Trevor Lawrence too. When I see Zach Wilson, I see things that I saw I see in Mahomes or saw in Mahomes a few years ago that I've seen from Aaron Rogers, you know, even Josh Allen. It's a very gifted skill set. He's a gifted thrower, passer. He's a real good athlete. And so I guess it's my history, my knowledge of the situation, and then not really giving a damn what some other people really think about, you know, the quarterback rankings and just being able to trust myself. Yeah, because it's funny. It's like, I'm sure when you said, well, Kyler not being as much of a hot take, maybe, I don't remember. I can't remember a time ever thinking 2019. I'm not afraid to go chalk. I went

Joe Burrow and Kyler Murray the years before. They were the number one guys. I said they were the number one guys. How about trying to look different? But the Lamar thing, you know, that was definitely unpopular. Josh Allen at number two. A lot of people seemed to dislike Josh from the beginning and, you know, that first year and a half or so or whatever was kind of fueled that fire. But when you do that, I feel like you get a lot more retweets than when you point out that

you were right the past couple years. You know, like people love to retweet a list and say, look at this bullshit. but they don't like to retweet your victory lap two, three years later. No, I mean, that's to me one of the problems. That's where I get pissed off at Twitter. There's just no common decency at all.

Give me some credit. Damn. Well, yeah, you credit or, hey, I, you know, during the year, like week 12 or whatever, I had to make a quarterback list and I didn't put Big Ben as one of the top 10 quarterbacks in football. You know, so the city of Pittsburgh,

they're 11 and 0. how can he not be a top 10 quarterback, right? Because it's only the quarterback out there, Chris. You know, you didn't really matter when you played. I hope you know that. It was really the quarterback. They did everything. They just paid you to look cool in your uniform.

You really had no effect on the game. Like, Dilfer is better than Marino. Right, right. Yeah, Phil Sims is better than Marino because he won a Super Bowl. Like, fuck no. Of course not. Well, I like hanging out with Phil Sims the best. He's the best hang of any Hall of Fame quarterback I've ever met.

Well, thank you. Let me ask you this question as a. sidebar because I'm the sidebar king here. Is there any quarterback that could beat up your dad, Prime Phil Sims? Oh, you're right. It's a short list.

It's a very short list. Prime Phil Sims. I think Jim Kelly and his prime could be one of those guys, right? Because I mean, Jim Kelly and Phil Sims are both like Irish pub fighters. I was going to say, it has to be, there has to be like glasses breaking, a pool stick over somebody's back. Right. It's a

dimly lit pub not a lot of windows it's going to be a knock down drag out i say the kelly and sims the the irish bracket the irish pub bracket it's pretty fierce dude it's pretty strong it's pretty strong yeah i mean yes and you know if you saw some of my dad's brothers you'd go oh damn holy cow because there's there's more of them like irish pub fighters too yeah there's he's one of eight there's eight irish pub fighters from the sims uh training camp there there's a few well some of them women, but they could, in the women bracket, they could win some of those too. No, you know, it's funny as I say that, I always say this to people when my dad, like, I can tell the way he talks about certain people, but he has this immense respect for,

for Phil that just transcends quarterbacks because whenever he talked about great quarterbacks, whether it was Elway or Montana or like, yeah, he used to be around Elway or Montana at the Pro Bowl, this, that, and the third, he would compliment them, but they were still quarterbacks. And when he talks about Phil, he's like, Phil's one of us. So that begged the question. All right, good answer then. Short list. Yeah, no. There's some of that. And dad was that kind of guy, though. He was the like lift weights with the offense and defense alignment.

Yeah. He was the like, oh, we're squatting 400 today for reps of two or three. Let me put it on my back. I could do this too. And I, you know, that's not unusual for the quarterback, as you know. And I think that got him a lot of respect over the years in the Giants locker room. Can Zach Wilson beat him up right now? Oh, yes. Right now. Yes. You think?

Definitely. You're taking Zach over your dad? I saw a picture of me. He's barely taller than Drew Brees, and that's been one of the biggest things, is, is he six three? I mean, I see he's listed at six three. But then I saw a picture of him and Drew, and maybe Drew was up on a step, but they were almost like the same height. I would be shocked if he measures a six three, too. Okay.

I would, too. I'm going to say, I bet you it's going to be six two and change is what I'm going to guess. I mean, it's very rarely the exact height the school puts out, right? Yeah, especially for quarterbacks that are might be just toe in the line, toe in the line there as far as the six three or the six foot thing either way. So first off, yes, he could beat up my dad right now. My dad's got back problems, neck problems, all types of issues. So it's just going to take one shot and dad's on the ground.

Oh, no. But, but like the size thing, again, getting back to Zach Wilson, hey, I get it. If you had me say, what is the number one negative? that to me is the only negative overall. I wish he was a little bit bigger of a man altogether, but I also think this is a guy that's like maturing and getting bigger. You could see there's a size difference between two years ago and last year. And you're like this, I think.

He's got a great legs on him, legs and butt. Like it's a real athlete. There's power and explosion there. I appreciate that, Chris, too. I like that too. Right. You got to have that. You know, that's a part of a good football player.

No, you got to be powerful. And he does look athletic to me. I mean, I watched accidentally the first game of their season last year, which feels like five years ago, and they were playing Utah. And I was like, damn, there's something with this kid, but I don't track it the way you do. And for you to arrive at this level of assurance as you make this, or some people are going to call it a hot take.

And I know why you're doing it you're doing it because you believe it. But where would you rank him in the last 10 years of guys coming out the way you feel today without having seen? Patrick without having seen Lamar or Josh before the draft. Right. Where do you rank him the last decade or so, Zach? I, you know, it's up there. It really is.

And that's a really good question. And I'll just, I'm going to say a few things about him first off. I mean, first off, like when I evaluate a quarterback, I want to go like, okay, when the guy's open, does he hit him, right? He does that all the time. Okay. Ooh, now it's a tight, you know, it's a close, a tight window. How does he do in that?

okay, he can put the ball, you know, on the edge of the plate, on the inside edge of the plate. Oh, I want to just, you know, a hair outside to where the receiver can get it or nobody can. He puts the ball, you know, where he wants to, 99 out of 100 throws, you know, so that's the one thing I look at. But then what I'm big into, like, is Chris is just like when there's nothing there, that's another thing I look at because not everybody's going to be in the best offensive football and people are going to be open, you know, the first Reed's not always going to be there and that type of stuff. All right. So when nothing's there, what are you going to do then?

And that's where I see unbelievable, you know, powerful arm throws that I go, there's not a lot of guys on planet Earth that can make this type of throw or the ability to extend the plays and, you know, now manipulate the coverage down the field like Rogers or Mahomes and buy time to throw a 30-yard laser somewhere. And then if not and okay, I bought time and nothing's there, he can rip off. a 20 or 30-yard run on top of that. So it's very special that way. You know, I was blown away by Patrick Mahomes.

So I'm not going to say it's Patrick Mahomes when he was coming out. You know, I mean, I was blown away by him. But I think it's like it's up there with the guys that I've had as highly rated as anybody where it's, you know, Mahomes, the Josh Allen's of the world. It's that type of guy that I look at to where I go, this is what he can be. He can be special. And, you know, I think it's even greater to me as far as the film itself and the high-end ability than even for Joe Burrow last year. I love Joe Burrow.

Yeah. But I think just the pure raw ability, the explosiveness in the arm, the side arm throws, two feet off the ground, no look, you know, 30-yard lasers down the middle of the field. All of that, to me, on a physical aspect, is greater than Joe Burrow. So again, I don't know exactly where, but I would say it's high up there is what I'm saying. And you mentioned like BYU. Obviously everybody remembers the coastal game. Who cares? I mean, Patrick Mahomes lost ugly games in college.

You mentioned Patrick. Competition matters, but it also matters in a way that people aren't thinking about because if you're not playing great teams, you're also probably not throwing great receivers either. Well, exactly. I mean, that's where, you know, okay, yeah, they're not, he's not playing. the same teams that Mac Jones played in the SEC at Alabama and all that. I understand that. He also doesn't have the same talent around him that Trevor Lawrence and Mac Jones have. Exactly. He doesn't he doesn't get the ability to walk on the field every game and go,

oh, we're the best team on the field. There's no doubt about that. Right. I mean, other than when Ohio State Alabama and Clemson play each other, they get to walk on the field, those quarterbacks every game and go, oh, I got the better player. I got the better players, the better team. You know, we're actually even better coached than just about every team. we play too. They have all of those advantage to go along with it. To me hey, I'd love to, I wish he played in the SEC, but he didn't.

But it's not a make or break thing to me either. Should I also wish Trevor Lawrence played in the SEC? Well, sure, right. I mean, and I'd also go like the ACC, like, first off, let's not write home about the ACC right now. Yeah, no. Name and Clemson, and North Carolina was better, but

not special this year. But like small school stuff. I don't know. I mean, you know, howie long did okay, coming out of Villanova? Yeah, Bill Smith did okay at a more at a state? Yeah, Howie Long, blue, gray game diamond in the rough there. I mean, you know, it's,

it's just such a crap shoot every year. There's no, I don't think it's that easy to find some correlation and be like, I'll only look at big school guys because that's like, you're always going to be proved wrong somewhere along the life. You're going to miss out on Josh Allen and Big Ben Rafflesberger and, you know, the Phil Sims and the Terry Bradshaw's of the world. I mean, then, man, you're never going to get them. Well, like throwing into tight windows is throwing in the tight windows.

No matter how they got that tight. Exactly right. You know, he'll understand how to go, wait, my receiver's a little faster and the DB's a little faster. So no, I have to lead the guy, you know, a half a foot more. Those, that's easy adjustments for high level athletes like that. And you know, everybody talks about that coastal Carolina game. Listen, it wasn't his best game. There was a few throws.

He missed. Okay. Yes. They had a good defense. the game plan, people go back and watch it. I mean, there's some plays where I go, well, where do you want him to throw it? Or he's under tremendous pressure. I don't know what you expect him to get done here. There was a few drops in the game too. There's four or five like pretty high level throws that get dropped. So that hurts the stats. And at the baseline,

if that's the worst game where he made like four or five throws that nobody else in college football can make and made that last second drive where they got an inch away from the field in like a 40-second drive and like 95-yard drive, then damn, I'll take it. But to always put it just on that, to me, is not fair either. Let's talk about the rest of the field here because Trevor Lawrence, obviously, that shakes people up when you say he's number two.

But again, like, this is one of my biggest pet peeves about sports media now. If you make somebody number two, all of a sudden, you might as well make them number 300. This kid could be a Hall of Famer in his own right. You say untapped potential. I heard you talking about him that way. what is it that he has to tap into?

I know he plays in kind of a college offense, but let's talk about mechanics. Is there something that you see mechanically with him that he needs to improve? Definitely. There is. And thank you for saying that because I think this guy is, he's worthy of being the number one pick in the draft. I expect Jacksonville to take him, you know, because I think they're going to run some of that collegey offense with Urban Meyer

and do those type of things. So I really like Trevor Lawrence. I really do. I mean, he's a really good athlete. There is a legit running ability off the read option in doing that. He can scramble and buy times and do all of that stuff as well. Size is a skill at quarterback. You know, he can stand in there with people around them and throw over the top of the line of scrimmage and not be affected that way.

So all those things are to like. You know, his arm, it's a powerful arm. It's maybe not as explosive as Zach Wilson's. Like we're like Zach Wilson, like I said, he doesn't need much. area or room and he could still throw 99 miles per hour right and hit and paint corners and do that. You know, Trevor Lawrence's arms really strong. There's no doubt, but it's not quite as versatile as Zach Wilson's. There's a lot of throws down the field and outside the numbers I like and all of that. But it is a college offense. There's definitely not as much of, you know, look to my left and look

at number one and then look down the middle of the number two and then look to number three on across the field and do that. You know, there's way more of that to see from Zach Wilson, Mac Jones, and even the kid at Texas A&M, Kellynne. So he's a little raw that way. And the one thing that I think jumped out to me, and again, this is where I mean there's unpat tapped potential. There are some technical things with his throwing that he could clean up. His feet can be all over the place. You know, he can be a guy that, you know, put yourself in the middle of the clock, Chris. If you're going to throw to 12, o'clock, well, you need your feet and your body to line up to 12 o'clock. And as a right-handed

thrower, as you get ready to throw, your left foot should just go left of 12 o'clock. He can make a lot of throws where he steps to 10 and 9 o'clock and throws it. And yeah, he might make some great throws, but there's also some slam dunk completions where I go, damn, he's too good to be missing that. Like, there's a little more inconsistency in the throwing than I expected. That's all I'm saying and that's ultimately what I think led me just a pure end talent and throwing of Zach Wilson and a little of that made me make Trevor Lawrence number two. But he's still awesome and like I said, worthy of being that number one pick. Let's talk development because this is very interesting to me. I think a lot of people assume that players are going to

naturally develop as they get older, like as they age. Like that's part of the evolution of a human being. You need good coaches. You need a good quarterback coach. How much of that is something we don't put enough emphasis on because we assume so much. Like Trevor Lawrence could end up, you know, you're trusting the decision making of Urban Meyer who had that brilliant strength coach higher. I'm sure he'll get the quarterback coach higher right and he'll be, he'll have the right voices in Trevor's ear.

But still, I think people assume that they're great position coaches left and right in the NFL. What is it about development that people don't get? Right. Well, you know that that's not true, right? that not all the position coaches are created equal. I mean, they're just not. And I would tell you also, you know,

there's very few quarterback coaches who really know anything about the mechanics of throwing the football. That's wild. I know. So is the whole landscape going to change? Because now we have these, and it is changing, we have these specialist guys that you're seeing guys leaving their QB coaches

in the off season to go hang out with. Yes. And unless some are good, I also, you know, see some where I go, okay, I mean, sure, if he can get paid and trick them into that. But what he's coaching, that's not going to help out there. Right. You know, but with Trevor Lawrence, his, his issues throwing are easy fixes. They're not things I look at to go, oh, man, I'm not sure about this one. Right. You know, it's, it's, it's, hey, I would like him not to see him arches back so much when he throws. And sometimes he does that so he doesn't get any turn or create any. torque like you see a Rogers or Mahomes do with their front shoulder. When you see them like really turn that shoulder and you go, oh, oh, here comes the laser. Right. He turns that thing. And you're going, uh-oh, it's coming. He's about to let it loose. You know, there's just very few coaches in football that can really teach that. Now, Lawrence is a natural thrower. There's no doubt about that. And his tweaks that he need are minor as far as just again, maybe getting some of that upper body movement, getting the feet to be aligned.

you know, in the right spot all the times. Those are easy fixes to where I would go, even the lesser quarterback coaches in the world should be able to at least stay on that to a degree and still get him on the right track. He might not maximize his full potential, but at least he'll get better and be more consistent with just, hey, keeping a wider base,

stepping at a certain spot, you know, trying to get a little shoulder turn and not letting it be all arm all the time. Those type of things, they're easy fixes now. that he's out of college, no more 20-hour rule, and you got somebody watching you, watching over you all the time. It's also hard to put those, those tendencies that you're trying to break into action on an NFL field, your rookie year. No doubt. And have the faith to say, if I suck trying to do it your way, you're not going to hold that against me, which is never the case. No, that's, that's what's scary. You're right. And that's the good thing about

Trevor Lawrence is it's still a lot of good, even though he's not doing some of those things we like. And I see enough clips where he does do things right to where I go, he could do this. This is not like, you know, totally hieroglyphics for him here. And it's just he'll never be able to figure it out. There's enough evidence there for me to say he can do it. And the other thing that goes along with this, hey, you got to give the guy some support around them too. That's where I look at teams and just go, you can't drop the top five quarterback and then surround him by shit for four years and think he's going to be great. You got to do something to help him support him. Look at Mahomes. Mahomes as awesome as he is. He got to walk into a team that

was the number two seed in the AFC playoffs and had Tyree Kill and Travis Kelsey right from the get-go. And that allowed us to see his great talents because there was talent around him to let it all flourish. And a lot of teams make those mistakes when they draft these quarterbacks early on. And then Alex Smith to help you know him along the way, which is always probably an underrated thing. You had Brad Johnson when you came to Leak, who I know as an aside. I hear he's legendary off the field, not a boring guy. No, not a boring guy. You could always find action with Brad, no matter what it is, when to shoot foul shots, shoot pool, you know, he could drink beer with the best of them, like was an amazing quarterback for somebody

to me be young because he did everything the right way in the classroom and on the practice. field. He wasn't threatened by me. He really helped me out. He appreciated by talent and things like that. I mean, he couldn't have been cool to be. He got you drunk. You went, you took you out and you paid for all his shit rookie year. No doubt. No. Oh. So he paid for it. He was cool. He was cool. So he didn't make me pay. Yeah. He sounds like a cool vet. Is the beer drinking quarterback going away? It seems like it is. It's like it's a dying breed. It doesn't seem as popular. Mahomes seems like he could throw him down pretty good. That's like a whole other sidebar conversation.

Who do you think drinks the most beer of NFL quarterbacks? Ooh, that's a good question. First off, it's hard for me not to think Big Ben can't throw down beers. And I have no inside. I feel like Big Ben might have tried at some point in his life to reinvent himself and put the beer down to make, you know, the new Big Ben more palatable to corporate America. And now he's drinking something more mature, maybe one. line or something. But deep down, that's not who

he is. I would say Josh Allen probably can smoke some Pilsners. I'm with you. He was going to be the next guy I was going to go to too, too. I think Josh Allen and Mahomes, both are probably sneaky really good beer drinkers when they want to be. Stafford went to Georgia.

He's essentially when he came out, he had that beer face. He's the next guy. I'm with you. He looks like he's got beer written all over him. There's no doubt about it. I'm looking at just a few other ones. Like I would think Baker could probably throw down beers too.

Oh yeah. Baker's is still, Baker's still got the beer drinking quarterback thing going on. I also, I want to throw a sleeper in the hat. I think it'd be fun to get fucked up with Teddy Bridgewater. Really? I don't know Teddy well enough.

I don't either, but I guarantee you it would be fun to drink beer with Teddy. He's always happy and always in a good mood. And I mean, it seems like you're going to have a good, happy conversation. Exactly. Low key.

All right. So we were on the second. second best quarterback. And we were talking about mechanics, Trevor Lawrence. Real quick to wrap up the Trevor conversation and in general, is there one mechanic that you can see, like, or a shortcoming that you can see mechanically with a quarterback in college, that you're like, this is a cardinal sin for me and this is going to be hardest to fix. Yeah. Well, that's where I get into like when you hear me say, like, listen, he's a natural thrower. So he can pick up any object and throw it with success. I have no doubt about that.

You know, no, there's people like, you know, Blake Bortles, Tim Tebow, when they got drafted, and you can go back and look at the Bordles draft. I was saying Derek Carr is better than Mansell and Bordles and Teddy Bridgewater that year. But I'll look at like Bortles and Tim Tebow and those. Those are guys where I go, no, no, there's no way. You're never going to fix them. It's not natural to them. They weren't put on earth to do that.

That's not what they're going to do. And one thing I always, that they did, they'd let their arm. And you know, I'm lefty, so I'm doing it. But they let their arm angle break to like where it would get straight at times like this, right? Like you don't ever see that. Rogers, Brady, right? Mahomes, Josh Allen. The arm always stays like this.

It might be sidearm or whatever else, but they never let it get straight. There's no way. It's too many moving parts to get it back in the perfect spot once again. That's one thing that I look at and go, oh, if he's doing that too much, that's going to be a tough fit. Plus, we love when they let their arms get straight. I mean, like, I, that's, I just, I just got excited. My hair stood on end because I'm thinking strip sack, which is the best feeling in sports, maybe better than the home run.

I mean, you just see it, the ball just out there. And that's that type of guy with that long, you know, kind of all over the place. Yeah, long or later release, right. You had another shocker with Mack Jones at three, but actually I don't think it's that much of a shocker. Because after one and two, no matter what, chances are you're not going to have three great quarterbacks in the draft. like, you know, it's a crap shoot. Mac Jones, I feel like he's had a lot of things held against him, probably the brief relationship we've had with Mac Jones,

but also just the long line of, I feel like, Alabama quarterbacks that they've cycled through. You had two wide receivers now. Was it Waddle Cowboy Reed? And who else? Devante Smith, who said that they like catching balls from Mac Jones better than two. Now, you and I both know that that's like a non-answer, unless you really feel strongly about it.

And I'm not saying they don't like Tua, but that probably tells you they really like Mac Jones. Agreed, right? Like, we're not wired to say those type of things. Usually, like a player like you or me, you'd go, oh, it's really close. Both are really good. Both.

They both do different things. Both are do different things. Tua could do this, but they let it be known. Like, they let it be known. And there was no hesitation in their answer at all. Yeah. Mac Jones, like, Chris, I mean, I wasn't, again, I'm a, like a casual college fan during the year.

I'm not sitting there every Saturday like, let me watch every throw. I got to get ready for draft parap and do all that. I'm all NFL every day. Yeah, there's no time. Yeah, I just can't sit there all day Saturday now and just go, man, I'm never going to be a father or husband with my kids or do anything. That's the thing. These single dudes are kicking our fucking asses at media. Well, that's fine.

I just, I can't dive into college at that point. So now I get to get into it here, you know, the last few weeks. And I really get to get into the nitty gritty. I don't know, you know, first off, I don't understand it with Mack Jones. There's nothing not to like on the film. The film is way better to me than it was for Tua last year. And nobody had any problem with Tua being a top five pick. Now, you know, to me, this is where media hype.

I think it's his body type. It is. People look at his body and they say the guy doesn't look like a pro quarterback anymore, which maybe 10, 15 years ago, we wouldn't even thought twice about it. But I heard you make a comment about his athleticism. Or you tweeted about this. The difference between athleticism and mobility and just what makes a quarterback mobile and you say Mack Jones is mobile.

He is athletic. So taking away the throwing part of it, I know comps can be polarizing. Give me an athleticism comp for Matt. Okay. Well, to me it'd be more like it's Drew Breezes, right? With maybe what he does there. You know, not Drew Breeze, what we've seen right now at 41 and 42 years old, but more back to, you know, what you saw six, seven years ago.

A guy who can move around the pocket. A guy who, oh, wait, things are broken down. and I'm kind of running up into a seam within the pocket and making the throw on the run. Like I might run for six, but I'm keeping my eyes up. Oh, there's somebody down the field. Bam, I'm going to hit it. Oh, wait, that guy wasn't there. I can run for five or six yards and did that.

There's plenty enough athleticism here to make it work. No, he's not Justin Fields or Trevor Lawrence or Zach Wilson. I understand that. But where he is really special, Chris, is he's got unreal feet. I mean, his feet in the pocket, I think are it's him or Zach Wilson for the best feet in the pocket. Yeah. He's extremely quick as far as getting himself into throwing positions, shuffling, moving out of danger's way, resetting to make a throw. And then the throwing is just, it's one dead eye, bullseye throw after another.

Yeah. You know, and it's not like I understand he's got talent around him. I get that. But again, I don't look at that. There's a lot of plays where guys are covered. Or you've got to make a tight throw into a tight window and there's pressure around you. And damn, he does it at an astonishing level. So, yes, it's not like super athlete.

And yes, it's not the strongest arm I've ever seen. But it's a really good arm. It's every bit as good as Joe Burroughs was last year. And it's the ability to process information is as good as any. I've evaluated in the draft over the last six, seven, eight years. And I feel like that's the thing everybody just assumes that guys are good at is the one thing we can't see is the wheels turning in their head. And if Mack Jones's wheels are turning fast and other dudes, that's good for him.

And I think a lot of people make the mistake of, like, Mac Jones doesn't qualify as an athletic quarterback that's going to scare people out of man or scare rushers up front in how we rush or like change the game plan. But to your point, he's a guy who can still navigate the pocket and people. pick you up five or six yards, so that's not going to be a concern at least. It's not a plus, but it's not a concern. I mean, that's the way I would look at a quarterback like that, me personally. It's going to be in an offense that you don't want him, you're not asking him to run the read option and bootlegs over and over. So give me a good offense for Mack Jones. Like I look at the Carolina

Panthers at number eight. You know, they just had Joe Burrow. That was Joe Brady. That was the officer coordinator in there in LSU. They want a guy who's going to be in the pocket, can make all the throws, dice you up, be accurate. They're running the same. Saints offense. That's why to me it makes sense. And we're and he's he's not getting enough credit for his talent that he has. There's the last thing I'll say.

Just the way they called the game in Alabama with him at quarterback compared to Tua. If you just look the way the plays they called, it tells you they thought Mack Jones was more talented than Tua. There's more NFL concepts, more aggressive concepts,

and more NFL big time type throws on Mac Jones film. And it's not close compared to Tua last year. So I mean, I look at Mac Jones and think he's a top 10 pick. Tua was less than those two receivers like, hey motherfuckers. And he had the other two that got drafted in the first round to. He had four. Yeah. You know, Mac Jones only really had one this year. Waddle was hurt most of the year. He had DeVante Smith. And I know everybody else there is pretty damn good too.

Yeah. But, but, you know, I'm just. Well, for leveling purposes, when you're comparing Tua's circumstance and his circumstance. And that's going to be certainly interesting down in Miami. When it comes to Fields, is it fair at this point to hold being a quarterback at Ohio State against that quarterback? Like to a degree, just a little. Again, every man's their own man. So that to me is where it's going to come in handy for these teams to meet Justin Fields. What's he like?

What's the work ethic like? How's that going? How's that going, though? It's Zoom, right, this year? Is it just? Yeah. For right now it is. I haven't heard about the,

but I would think with the way vaccines are going, maybe we get some more in-person meetings here. Yeah, that's a tricky part. I hadn't thought about. You're right. Now, and then also, you know, you're going to want to see him work and work out because he does have some mechanical issues too.

But the Ohio State thing, yeah, I would be, here's the one thing that the offense lends itself to be very easy for a quarterback. And it doesn't necessarily lend itself to being ready for the NFL day one. I think they do a lot of just like, hey, let's block it up. You don't have to worry about hots or anything like that, right? So they get a lot of six man protections, send three guys out in the route. It's look at one guy and then he looks to run. It's a lot of one read type throws into open spaces and those type of things. Where I do get concerned a little, and I don't know if they teach it this way or not, but he has a, He has a really floppy, loose arm like Dwayne Haskins. And that bothers me. And Cardell Jones had the same thing to where, yeah, it can be really powerful, but it can also miss the broad side of the barn at times too. And that's what worries me about Justin Fields and a little bit what I see out of the Ohio State quarterbacks all together.

Is there a quarterback factor you trust the most at this point? I mean, Alabama, you're going to get a well-schooled, ready guy. Low floor or high floor. exactly right you're not going to get a guy who goes in the league and is like totally clueless and raw and things like that now they they haven't had that high-end superstar talent yet but the one thing you're going to get you whether it's a j mccarran or you know toa or some of those guys they're going to be NFL ready in a lot of ways because they've been taught like an NFL quarterback as we're on the back half of these these uh quarterbacks you listed last week all of them are going to need to need to be development. One that popped into my head last year is now my favorite player in the NFL probably is Justin Herbert. And turning on the combine, I said, oh my God, he's just missing go routes. He's like not hitting the broad side of the barn. There's no pressure. Me with my dumb D-line brain, when I see that, I think, well, there's there's something wrong with the kid, right? Because

there's nobody on the football field and he can't hit people. How do they do that with guys? How did they do that with a Justin Herbert down there. Maybe that was a very specific situation. No. That's it's good. Well, like first off, I was like Justin Herbert, just go back to him. You know, his throwing when I broke him down last year, that's why I made him the know, I got a lot of crap last year because I put him in front of Tua, you know, like how dare I. And you know, his throwing was off the charts. You know, when you get into the combine and all that, first off, it couldn't be a more stupid environment to evaluate. had a quarterback. Here's two throws. Now go stand back in the back and wait for 20 minutes and you'll get two more throws a little later. Like what? That does. Oh, and by the way, it's with a guy that you've never thrown a ball to ever in your life and, you know, we don't know what it's

going to be like. So, you know, you get caught in the wait, do I want to complete the pass or do I want to show people what I got? Like, do I want to, you know, he could have thrown the 40 yard completion, but I think on a few of those go routes. He said, eh, I'm going to air it out. out 65 and throw it really high in the air and just show everybody what I got. We'll see if this guy can run under it and get it. You know, so you have to piece things together as you go through the evaluation process too. And you've got to be realistic about what you're evaluating. You know, there were so many games last year with Justin Herbert where we talk about. And this is every year where people would go, whoa, did you see this game or did you see that game? And I go, well,

yeah, I did. But what did you want him to do? Nobody was open. There was no pass protection. He's not Superman. I mean, so that's where you got to be realistic. And was it really there for the player to succeed in some of these games we talk about that are negatives at time? Patrick Mahomes had the TCU game his year. I got all this pushback. Oh, did you watch the TCU game? Yeah, I great. We could bring John Elway back or Brett Farbrack or whoever. The game wasn't going to be any different. Nobody was open. There was no chance. And I think that gets lost in translation too sometimes. Jordan Love was the guy you put right behind Herbert. We might not see him for years to come. What the hell is going to happen with him? That's a good question. And, you know, listen,

I got like a little and fascinated with Jordan Love early on last year. And as I started to go, and I see, this is where I didn't make this mistake this year. This year I went all in right away. And I went, no, I'm going to spend, you know, almost two weeks on these quarterbacks and get this right. Last year, I kind of got a feel for them all and made a ranking and I put Jordan Love in front of Tua. And I can still remember my dad called me and he

goes, hey, you know, I've been really, I really broke down this Jordan Love and then you need to go back and watch a few things and you know, you got to tell me if you feel the same way. And I did that and I backed off. So I'm not sitting here to tell you I'm right or wrong about everything in the world. Two it was better. But yeah, Jordan

Love, I don't know. That was a dumb pick by Green Bay. I don't know when we're going to see him. I mean, you got a quarterback who's still in the five best quarterbacks in football. There's no doubt. And they don't go all in on them on a team that they have kind of like a Super Bowl window. That made no sense. I just, I just wonder who's sitting there Biden, their time waiting to make a play at Jordan Love or something like that. A year like this, there's plenty of options. But eventually that conversation is going to happen. Yeah, but I think it's a few years down the road. And what we need for the guy like that, too,

he needs preseason. He needs to show people what he's about too, right? Because he was raw coming out. So that's going to be the last image everybody has. Only Green Bay is going to really know what he is until we get to see some preseason and stuff like that. And then you could go, hey, look, he fixed some of those mechanical issues he had. Whoa, okay, he's become a little bit better decision maker.

And that's how you can get the hype going for maybe being a trade option, you know, somewhere down the road for some team. You've been right about a lot of stuff. I know you've been wrong about something before with these quarterbacks. Who is the who is the one that you look back and you're like, I'm a moron? Well, I, Daniel Jones, I was wrong about that. Like, as far as I had them too far. I had some other guys in front of him that I should not have.

Like, I was wrong there. You don't thought Daniel Jones. You put him in sick. I'm not. I'm not sure he's worth the number six pick still. I don't know about that. Yeah. But I was wrong about that.

The one I'm really, I always kick myself about, is Dack. Prescott. That's really the one I look at. And to me, that's why I'm on Kell and Mon this year at Texas A&M. Because to me, that's the DAC Prescott this year. It's, you know, don't, Dak Prescott is one of those where I went, oh, they didn't win. The stats weren't always that great. And I put it on Dak Prescott. And I want to go, why? You know, every ball was pretty accurately thrown. The physical ability was there. He was playing on a team that was less than more times than not in the SEC every time. So I put some of the team stuff on him and I mis-evaluated.

So that's one that always will jump out to me and I'm still pissed off and that's where I get into self-scout thyself and I try to correct myself and get better. North Dakota State University. The Eagles have traded one North Dakota State guy away. It's just in my head at six. Yeah. I know Lurie came out today and said, or sources. say that Lori says that we're going to focus on Jalen as our future.

If you're the Eagles at 6, what do you do? And do you believe Jeffrey Lurie telling the whole world a month before the draft or whatever it is that they're not drafting a quarterback? Well, I kind of, I do. I saw that news just before we got on in here. And I kind of take him at his word. I kind of actually do believe him there. You know, Jalen Hertz, yes, it was better than I expected.

Yeah. You know, there's flaws. in the game. It was still one and three. There's still a lot of time like that Dallas game, the second last game of the year. There's still a lot of throws there. I go, damn, they were not good throws. Like we got to grow in that department. So I don't know what Philly wants to do. I'm all for if they want to go in on a year that's a rebuild year right now and see if they can go wall in on Jalen Hertz and play a certain style of football and see what he can do from there. But also within that, I go, they hired Nick Siriani, who was with the church.

and with the Colts and they want to drop back and dice you up in the past game. And to me, that's where I don't think Jalen Hertz is ready to go. So I would imagine that either they drafted a quarterback and they look to move him maybe, or they let Jalen Hertz be the guy and they bring in a quality competition type backup in case it doesn't work out that they could put somebody else in there. I look at those as kind of being the two options. Do you think Bill is capable of? of sitting out another year, so to speak, as a major power player in the NFL?

Do you think he's capable? You spent time up there. I know that his brain doesn't think that way he's still trying to win, but he also knows. He's a realistic dude. Yeah. I know. I mean, I think he's realistic to know that like, okay, you know, maybe winning a Super Bowl or something like that might be a stretch this year.

But you know how he is, too. I mean, they're just, it's every day. It's just go to work. And what are we going to do today? to win today and they're going to, you know, go through every detail in the world. You're like, oh my gosh, we've been over the 700 times already. But okay, here's 701. You know, it's, it's a, I just, I never count them out.

Yeah. I don't. They're just too smart. You know, they have a ton of money to play with. They are going to get some players back from the COVID opt out that could help them. They have an elite offensive line when it comes to the run game, you know, so I don't they have physical, they have wide receivers on the. roster that they could throw the ball to. I don't know if they're good, but they do have wide receivers.

They do. That's where they need work. I mean, that's where I don't care who they got a quarterback. There's got to be some improvements and some difference makers as far as receivers, a pass rusher. Like those are things that lack in New England big time in my opinion. And that's the thing that they've been hesitant to spend on is that rusher. And so it'll be real, I think the biggest mystery in the first round to me is what the hell does Bill do? He could go anywhere. he could trade back to the fourth, or he could trade up to the top five, which is not something he's done typically, but again, when everybody says,

Bill's never done X, well, Bill's never been in this situation. And I think Bill also does some self-scouting. I think Bill says like, all right, I've done things in the past, they haven't paid off as a new day. So last question, Lamar Jackson, right. Everybody, it's one of the most likable players

in the NFL and one of the most electrifying obviously, but everybody knows he has to take some steps, and he would tell you this to better his game. How much of that is going to be, how much of his improvement is going to be accelerated by a number one? Will that solve everything?

Are there things that he has to do? No, there's things that he has to do, but we've seen, I think it's trending in the right direction. You know, just think, just even from the MVP season two years ago to last year, I think he became a better passer within the pocket and those type of things. You know, is it perfect? No. But hey, there was the

game. What was it? 10 to 3 against the Buffalo Bills. They drove down with his right arm. Yeah. He got down there and okay. Yeah, he threw a pick six. He made a mistake. He doesn't make a lot of mistakes really. Especially not down there. No, you're right. Especially down there. And he's got a lot of positive still to bring to the game. They in my opinion just need to help him more in the past game. It's an underwhelming passing attack. Okay, so that will be the first thing I would tell you. It goes back to like

what we just talked about with some of the college guys. I'd go, listen, yeah, he's not perfect, but I'm not like watching film going, oh man, he's missing wide open people all over the field here. That's not the aspect, let alone, you know, they have a hard time getting a guy like Marquise Hollywood, the

brown, the ball on the consistent and regular and formulating an offense, or at least just having guys that scare a defense. in the past game. So to me, their past game needs an overhaul altogether as he continues to get better, which again, he goes back into the thing we said earlier too. He's a natural thrower of the football.

He is. And he wants to throw within the pocket. He wants to do that. And he's getting better at that. But he also has those legs he can rely on if things are an issue. But I like the direction Lamar Jackson is going in. Chris Sims, everybody. That's like I'm quarterbacked out, but I feel so smart now.

I'm just going to walk around starting conversations with people asking what they think about quarterbacks and just dunk it on them. I talk to Chris today. I like it. I hope I'm right this year. I think, yeah, hey, track record says. So Chris Sims, he's on the wagon. He's back off the wagon.

We hope to have you again sometime soon. And tell Florio, I don't know what it's going to take, but we got to make, we make something happen. We'll smoke Florio out. Okay. I like that. We'll do that. Well, you know, whenever you come back up, like maybe to this area during the football season,

something like that, let me know, and I'll get him at the house and we'll make this work. There we go, yes. Chris Sims, everybody. Appreciate you, Chris. You're the man, Chris. Be good. Say how to the fam. Yeah, likewise. All right, let's do mailbag. Let's do mailbag and get the F out of here, huh? I'm not going to cuss this whole mailbag. You sound really confident about that. You say it so often and then break it. I can only be confident. I can only be confident. This is from I don't even know how to say this, dude, I have trouble, G-Y-R-A-B-I-N-E-C,

Gyro-B-N-E-C, Giro-Beneck. It's from Giro-Bernick. What's up, Holmes? If all household items were sentient beings, which one would have the worst job or life? That's brilliant. It's a brilliant, brilliant question. Reed, you know what sentient means?

No, explain it to me. Something capable of like feeling, like a real thing, dude. You know? Like, hey, is a tree a sentient being? No, but it's a living being. Can it feel? I don't know. Aware of one's self, including one's traits, feelings, and behaviors.

Basically something that knows it's there, right? Essentially, unless I'm butchering the shorthand on this word. would you say we've got it that's right read what do you think like household items if uh if they were if they were alive essentially which one would have the worst job or life i feel like a oven or the toaster wouldn't be that fun because they don't get cleaned very often they're all just dirty all the time right read you got a point dude but there's a toilet where people poop all the time, all right? Like, if you think about it, the toilet's like,

that's my job. I'm going to do a really good job of flushing your stuff. Like all I'm saying, it's chalky, right? Toilets chalky for me. Yeah, that's a good one. It's just, yeah, I mean, like, I'm totally weak. If a toilet is actually a sent in being, like, what's worse? Eternal Flames or a three by eight when at unpredictable times,

somebody can come in and just blow it up right in your face yeah three by eight that might be worse than hell right if you believe in hell i don't somebody said great fuck dude i'm in trouble i'm fuck now huh because you're not afraid of hell no no i'm afraid of i'm afraid of hell um of hell makes people do really out of character things. Yeah, to avoid it. Yeah. Oh, you'll be fine. You've got a long way to go.

I don't know, man. I just feel like, I should hedge my bets on hell. Can you hedge your bets on hell? Probably not. Okay. I think it'll get you when it gets you. Fuck.

It'll get you when it gets you. No, like, it's terrible. And then after they, after they, you get you know dumped on somebody just glades all over

your face like pink bottle of glade island smell like just straight and then you have to do with that scent and the one that the person just dropped and it's not it doesn't sound fun no it's terrible

my eyes are burning I'm getting plunged from time to time you know that's violent that's a violent action no um if though, read, caveat here, if you can get a gig as a

powder room guy in like a drug lord's house, huh? You might see a lot of people doing cocaine hear their conversations. You ever think about that? That could be a toilet that I could sign up for that one. Plus, nobody shits

at a drug lord's house. Is that a fact? Never been to one, but I can imagine that if I was at a drug lord's house, the last thing I'm doing is is blowing up dude's powder room. Yeah, you're probably just trying to not get killed. Right, exactly.

Not get killed, dude. Quickest way to get killed. Fuck with the guy's tiger or... Blow up a bathroom at a drug lord's mansion. Exactly. If you, dumb and dumber, a drug lord's powder room, you're not making out alive, dude. So that's why I think like drug lord mansion powder room may be an exception.

Same thing with the Playboy Mansion. I feel like lots of cocaine and nobody takes a dump. Because all the dudes in the Playboy Mansion are walking around like, oh, maybe I'm going to meet a chick. And they're afraid to shit and be the guy that like when the door swings open, one of the models catches a whiff. So nobody's shitting at the Playboy Mansion and everybody's doing cocaine. Same way, I would imagine.

But I'd probably, I'd take drug lord powder room toilet all day if I had to be one. that's does that count as an item toilet yeah i think so i would take the sixth bathroom in like a mansion you know the side bathroom that no one ever uses yeah but you don't get you don't get the cocaine uh voyeurism you don't get the like look at these fucking people just doing footlong lines yeah no that's fine i don't have any interest in that you're not seeing it Netflix i pay to watch like drug lord stories dude i could be i could be a toilet in the bathroom so you could live it yeah do you live it nobody's nobody's dumping in there dude nobody's dumping in there everybody's just in the bathroom you know i don't know how people how motherfucker's sound when

i have a septum so you know it sounds normal when i like inhale through my nose but you know people doing that it just goes straight up straight up straight up I can't even make the noise. But you could just first class, you know, like the movie blow, you're in the movie blow. It's like fifth room in a mansion, great fifth bathroom and mansion,

it's kind of boring, that's all I'm saying. Yeah, I would have no problem with that, though. You just get to hang out there. Maybe you have a shower, a faucet to head talk to.

You got a couple buddies, but you, you know, oh man, I didn't even think about the fact that you got friends. if you're a household item. So you're going by like toy story rules

where all the inanimate objects actually... Right. Yeah, no, I was thinking, but this, that opens up a whole different conversation. I was thinking, yeah, I was thinking like rules where I'm just like the lone ranger interacting with the humans. But yeah, I mean, you know what, Dormat,

I forgot about that one. I have this one right here, Dormat. People kicking the shit out of you. dog poop, dirt, gum, sticky beer. Yeah, that one's, like kind of that pissy smell. And there's literally a doormat expression. Like if you're the dormat of the ACC,

if you're like Maryland and then you have to leave and go to the big fan. And how often do you get cleaned? Like never. Never, nobody cleans it. Not often people say, I'm going to clean my dormat. No, people just buy new dormats. Exactly. You get replaced.

Because they think of something. some other stupid thing they want to be like on. I don't want to offend anybody. Because everybody's got writing on their dormant. Really, guys, it's cool. What you're doing is cool. It's all good. What you guys are doing is totally cool.

I'm not going to make fun of you. Live, laugh, love. Do they do that on a dormant? That's more of a kitchen sign. Yeah, the kitchen sign. Hey, come to think of it. Come to think of it. Anything in the kitchen,

anything in the kitchen the range hood is perfect the range hood's life is perfect because what does a range hood really do? I couldn't tell you exactly gets paid a lot of money it's in the most important room in the house

like it's kind of like made it into the you know like the range hood is all the other household items are like fucking side eyeing the range hood you know and the range hood all it does is hang out in the kitchen you get the same like You get great smells.

You get great smells. You get great smells. You know if you're a very good cook. Dude, the range hood's job, evidently, is just to inhale bacon smoke. Yeah. You know what I mean? Right. So Rangehood, for me, you got a pretty good gig, dude. I think Rangehood might have the best gig in the house and you're in the kitchen, so you hear everybody's conversations.

And, like, mostly the kitchen is full of life and energy. A lot of other items, too. you're going toy store. Yeah, exactly. Lotion. Lotion is not a good job. Oh. No, I'm just thinking about,

okay, read, wherever your head's at. Read, wherever your head's at, dude. I'm just thinking about like, generally it's very variable because you just don't know who you're going to see naked every day.

You don't know. And like, like what would be worse than, oh, forget about household lotion? How about like country club lotion. That'd be the worst item to be. You don't know, you got to wake up every day

and fucking put your big boy pants on and go to work. To be prepared for what you see. It could be any old millionaire with a big old gut. It stretches way out past the you know,

getting out of the sauna, you know, combing his fucking hair in the mirror and not bothering to put the towel on. And you you just, the lotion is the closest thing to them. It's the closest thing to them. Locian at CVS is sitting there in the aisle,

like more nervous than me on the airplane, like, you know, or whoever's got the open seat next to him and, you know, just watching people go by and you're like, oh, please, please, please, not him. You know, there's just certain people, the lotion doesn't want to get taken home by. Yeah, I've just, lotion would be a nerve-wracking job. For sure.

Okay. this guy i gotta respect him j delaney three i'll keep sending it to you till you do it rank pasta shapes okay j delaney you got me you pin me down dude you've tweaked you've asked me to rank pasta shapes for what feels like eons mr delaney you're relentless i can respect that um but missed the cutoff on the story I said anybody who uh submits a question after 3 p.m. I'm just going to make fun of you. You missed the cutoff but on a day like today you're you're a lucky man because we just made Anthony Alfredo. Hmm? Not a pasta shape, pasta sauce, but pasta related, we made him the official NASCAR driver of the Greenlight Pod. So good day to

ask a question like that. Lucky for you, you ask that question every day. Guy fucking loves pasta. I respect it, dude. I love it. I'm hungry. Maybe hungry, dude. First off, lasagna, not a shape. Right?

Just flat. It's just a flat rectangle. Most times, people couldn't even tell you in detail what lasagna is, I feel like. I feel like a lot of times you're just like, oh, it's a big heap of Italian food, and I like it. You know, you don't,

I never thought about it as a shape. Orzo, I'm sorry. Um, I apologize to Orzo, which is a tremendous restaurant here in Charlottesville, Virginia. Um,

but I don't, I'm not going to rank mega rice. You know, cold mega rice as a pasta shape in, oh man, I fucked up probably. This is one of my favorite. restaurants, but I just can't include orzo in the shape list. I'm not ranking pasta al-vo.

Literally, this is how you spell it. A-L-L-A-L-A-L-A-Postrophy, O-U-V-O. I'm not ranking pasta that pasta. I don't rank irrelevant pastas. Same goes for D-Tolini, which, you know, like, why D-Tolini? It's a short rigatoni. It's just a short fucking rigatoni. I've been cussing the whole mailbag. You have. Did you know, it's, I noticed it the first. Oh, read. It happens.

Like it's happened the previous 30 times. All right, well. From here on out. This is, this is, from here on out, not cussing the rest of the way. I'm not ranking spaghetti or linguine. Although I do love a good spaghetti in a social setting that I'm actually not getting judged in. You know what I mean? Like just, you know, it's just an ugly, it's a top five ugly activity. Okay, so we got six here that I'm going to rank in no particular order. The conchels,

the mac, the macaroni, the peni, the regatoni, the fuseli, and the bow ties. Okay. Coming in at number six, farfully. I think that's how you say it. It's a bow tie. It's a bow tie. man it's a bow tie um and the reason you might be saying yeah chris being harsh on bow ties okay it's a stubborn stubborn shape of pasta it is really hard to get the fork into a bow tie i feel like i might be imagining that but i feel like bow ties really hard to pin down uh you know like at a wedding you're stabbing the heck out of your plate and it's loud and it's awkward because it's a bow tie you always there's always bow ties at weddings too

number five macaroni macaroni is a system pasta the system pasta shape everybody knows why mac and cheese you need the cheese

to unlock the potential of a macaroni okay that's it in fact mac and cheese unless I'm totally butchering this little piece of historical context,

but it just dawned on me that mac and cheese, mac and cheese said fuck macaroni, dude, we're moving on. Mac and cheese is, you can get mac and cheese in any, any shape, right? Any shape of pasta. So like, mac and cheese will be the first to tell you that macaroni, maybe I should put that six. In fact, I'm putting mac and pasta.

the Mac in last place, and I'm putting the bow tie in five. Okay? Mac and cheese, that's it. Number four, Pene. Pene is played out. Pene's played out. That's four. Number three, conch shells, okay?

The clamshells. I couldn't pronounce the name. I'm not going to try. You're doing too much. Just deliver me the flavor. It's like people that, you know, soap that's shaped. like objects.

I don't need it. I just want to wash. I just want to wash up. Two. Fusely. It's a cool pasta. I respect that pasta. Big time. Number one.

Rigatoni. Okay? It's the only answer. It's thick. Two Cs. Shout out to Orzo. Again, the peasant beef and pork polonaise. Terrific, terrific dish there.

And I would love to get fast pasta on this pod to do his rankings one day. I really would. What do you think? I think that's definitely the move. I agree with you. Rigotoni's a solid choice. My number one is the wheel pasta, the wheel-shaped pasta. Those are phenomenal.

You're a wheel guy. Oh, yeah. Those things are cool. Hold on a second. Hold your horses. Yeah, this wagon wheel pasta, you're a big wheel guy, huh? Big wheel guy. Cool shapes.

Cool shapes to eat. Okay. It is a cool shape to eat, man. You know what's cool about that shape? You feel like you're a kid again. Right? Exactly. Yeah, no, that's 100% because I ate it a ton as a kid.

Friking cool. That's such a good. And I eat a ton now. Fuck yeah, dude. Shout out to Anthony Alfredo and shout out to Waggon Wheel Polly. y'all take care