Green Light with Chris Long - Coach Wookie joins to rank 90's Pop/Billboard Hits that aged BETTER THAN EXPECTED.

Episode Date: July 1, 2020

0:54 - open and Chris and Wookie in the 90s. 20:24 - Songs That Didn’t Age Well. 27:30 - Wookie’s Honorable Mentions. 29:45 - Chris’ Honorable Mentions. 35:42 - Wookie’s 10-5. 39:49 - Chris’ 10-5. 50:29 - Wookie’s Top 5. 54:19 - Chris’ Top 5. Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. 🌍🏀🏈SUBSCRIBE NOW ⚾🏒⛰️ http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

And then getting jiggy with it, I didn't know if that was, was that really good back in the time? Because I feel like I still hear it. I think it was only good if you were nine years old. So I'm wondering if how old you were when that came out. Right. Exactly. I remember Jess was like, I may not, this may not work out. You had Will Smith CDs as a college student?

Yes. I'm going to own it. I did. Let the Twitter trolls roll. You know what, but Jeff's parents were probably happy to see that you had a Will Smith CD in your case logic. because that means that you're a virgin. June's in the books. It is summertime, finally.

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Go check out the tree dashers at allbirds.com. Okay, welcome to Greenlight Pod. It is Wednesday. Sports are not, they're just not catching my attention right now. I don't know if I'm getting over sports. It's sacrilege to say. I mean, I'll welcome it when it comes back. But, okay, Cam Newton signed with the Patriots.

Some people think he didn't sign for enough money. I'll have somebody on at some point and talk about that. but I'm not that interested in the NFL right now because I don't even know if the season is going to happen, quite frankly. And I figured we'd fill the time with something fun. And I get this concept about 90s music. So naturally, I called my high school baseball coach, recurring contributor guest, Coach Wookie.

And he's going to join us to talk this concept that we thought up, which was basically like 90s songs that you didn't expect. expect to age well that aged well. Unexpectedly well aging, 90s, Billboard, top 100, top 40 type music. I guess a disqualifier would be the music can't be thought of as the consensus being that this is good music. I mean, there's a lot of people that are probably gonna

stick their nose up at a lot of the songs that we're gonna talk about and the bands we're gonna talk about, but we don't care because we both experience the 90s, the 90s, different times in our life, different ages, stages. But my baseball coach from high school, Wookie McGrain is here to, and Chris, I dare anyone to hit the skip button on any of the songs we're about to go through.

It's going to, if it came on the radio, nobody skips them. No, I agree. I mean, especially if you're alone in your car, though. I think there's like a factor. Oh, completely. Completely. Yeah. Yeah.

Some of this music that we're going to talk about. is it's going to be the type of music that if you're in the car with three, four people and like collective soul comes on, you might be like quietly in your head like, collective soul was kind of dope. I'm okay with it if you are. But two, three people in the car, they might not share that sentiment. And maybe they do, but they share it quietly and you just keep driving and change the channel. Yes.

So I guess the big question is there's no clean way to do this. The thesis here is music that we didn't think would. age so well. Now, there's a lot of subjectivity when it comes to this. It is, it's all a matter of taste. And some of these bands that we're going to talk about and some of these songs that we're going to talk about, we might sit here and say, or somebody listening might say, like, they were never bad. Like, for me, okay, every kid in the 90s, and let me paint a picture of where I was in 90s and you can do the same wookie but I was you know a teenager a preteen you know at one point when I went to go get my first CDs and I've talked about this a lot my first two CDs I ever got

was a super unknown sound garden and live lightning crashes you know that whole whatever the throwing copper was was the album but but the song the single that drew me to that album was lightning crashes so you know being a nine-year-old picking that stuff up to to going through the incubus stage where you're like starting to have a mustache and get boners and that sort of thing like it's you know this 90s music took me through every stage of of my boyhood uh and uh you know it's it shaped a lot of experiences this was a time when everybody had posters like kids had posters a lot a lot of us didn't understand the music that we had on the posters whether it was dmx i had every DMX poster. I had my parents go get a big cork board. That was my Christmas present one year.

They cork boarded my whole wall so I could put as many posters from Spencer's as possible to go with my black lights and my lava lamps. You know, you had it all. Everybody had the sublime poster, 40 ounce to freedom, the sun with all that shit in the middle. For me, it was my teenage time. It was an awkward time. How about for you, what? So I'm a little bit older. And so for me, fall of 96 is like Wookie and his prime. Just imagine me I'm wheeling around in a Nissan Pulsar with

the T-tops off. For those of you that don't know Nissan Pulsar with T-tops, it's like a go-kart. It's very small. So for those of you that know cartoons, just imagine the grape-bait. That was me. But I had the, you know, it was this cheap little car where you go to where you save up all your money and go to Stereo City so you can get the pop-off CD3. face because back in the time, like, stealing CD players out of cars was like the crime to do.

It definitely looks like a car that a European guy in the 90s would be driving. Yeah, so just imagine my big old ass in there. So whipping around in that, I just signed my letter of intent to go to the University of Virginia in place in baseball. I was like as cool as I thought I could be in that moment. For me, the 90s are like the way people view the 80s. It's like a heyday. In fact, I'm upset that, you know, you know, bar.

have 80s night. I'm like, hey, it's about damn time we have a 90s night. Yeah, you know what? And I do think the 90s have gotten kind of just buried. A bad rap. Yeah, bad rap. And as we're listening to a lot of this music, it's not like things were ever simple. Maybe it was age, but the 90s were a simpler time. Look, all I'm saying is it's time for the 90s to get the 80s music respect. It absolutely deserves that. And there's also a lot of good movies that came out in the late 90s, early 2000s in that little stage there, you go down a movie rabbit hole in that in that time period. There's a lot of art that got,

you know, left for dead. A lot of these singles were talking about. Here's what, here's a perfect example for me. And by the way, this was a time, you know, where you had to go download your music on Napster. I mean, you didn't have a CD book. Yes. I had the Case Logic CD book.

Did you? I had multiple case logic CD books. I mean, like, first off, I had the CDs. And when you have CDs as a teenager, one of the biggest decisions you have to make is, am I going to be the guy that stacks all my CDs in one of those CD cases that people put next to their giant TVs that weigh like 600 pounds? Or am I going to be a guy with a case logic thing and ditch the album art and the little pamphlet that goes in the album? Because in the 90s, that was cool. Like the hard case CD was cool, but if you had 100 CDs, it was kind of cumbersome, not to say cumbersome three times.

And like you didn't go drive to the beach or drive to your buddy's house without your, without your case. So I opted for the case, not the tower, because I needed to go mobile with them. And you all, well, I wasn't, I didn't really have a lot of mobility in the mid 90s. When I, you know, early 2000s, I got my, my license and whatnot. I did, you know, but that makes sense. There's something to be said for a couple of these. bands here in a couple of these songs that we're going to talk about. Like if we're doing the top 10 for songs that age better than we thought,

that were like kind of top 40 garbage, etc. Some of these bands, a lot of people are holier than thou on. I would be judged if I were listening to them, but we're actually very successful, very good bands, like Oasis for one. You talk about that poster era. Everybody had, what's the story, Morning Glory, the album poster on the wall. It's one of the most recognizable album covers. By the way, it's rip pop, okay?

I think a lot of people hate Oasis because of what they said about the Beatles. I don't care for the Beatles. That's no secret on the Greenlight Pod. So that's not a strike against them. Except the quiet beetle. I think Oasis is one that you look at and you're like, Oasis had some poppy shit and they were wildly popular. But are they bad music?

Can they count as having age better than we thought? We always knew Oasis was pretty good, right? Yeah, like Wonderwall. Oh, that was like a prom song of the year back then. Oh, yeah, well, that was prom time for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Exactly. You know, and I think Oasis, you know, you get stuck on Wonderwall,

but they had a lot of other hits that were a little darker and a little harder than that. I think they were good. I don't think they can count as garbage. Yeah, I don't think so either. I mean, what's the story, Morning Glory? That was like the most popular album, right? That's the one that blew up.

Some people think it's the most important Brit Pop, you know, album and all that. you know the album is so 90s British too it's like this street that's obviously too tight to be an American street and like these two dudes with the blurry kind of filter they put on all the album covers back then or walking by each other baggy Oxford shirts blurry photography don't look back in anger really still slaps but my buddy put on Morning Glory the other day shout out to Tom Paukept

which was on that album and Morning Glory is a fucking raging good time, even in 2020. Even in 2020. And also definitely maybe with the album before it, and that was a solid album too, slide away, live forever, still slap. So if anybody's wondering why we left off Oasis, they might be one of the bands that, you know,

we probably aren't going to consider bad enough or looked over enough to put them on the slip. Right, but worth giving them another listen. I mean, that's been the most fun part about this I've been just rocking out on 90s, just trying to find just the mental debate of, were they garbage? Was it garbage? And does it still work today?

It's been quite the fun exercise. Well, what's not been fun for me has been like my wife using the restroom, knocking at the door and I'm sitting on the toilet at midnight, listening to 90s music. Naturally, I'm listening to Bitch by Meredith Brooks, you know, and just blasting. thing. And I don't particularly like the song, but it's an exercise. You got to, this is, it's like being a method actor. You really have to dive deep into this stuff. You have to listen in 90s for a few days. That's, when your wife's like, what's you up to and you know, you're listening to Barbie girl or like, don't speak by no doubt, it's hard to justify what you're.

I was there with you too. In fact, my wife reminded me that I still have my case logic CD collection in the house. To prove it, I even FaceTimed you, and we did a little walk through that. And there was a lot of garbage in there. There was quite literally. Did you have that garbage CD? Remember the band Garbage? I had it, yes.

And just, you know, he reminds me that when she first saw my CD case, when we first started dating, she almost decided that I wasn't the guy. She almost like, she saw the CD case and she was like, I don't know if I can do that. Really? She reminds me of it. Yeah, it's, oh, gosh. My CD case is like the least.

living version of like now music volume you know now volume oh so she wasn't judging you on the fact you were cd hoarder guy you were i had bad taste bad taste okay blues traveler i'm not going to put hook on here when you look up like some of the best songs of the 90s that were very commercially successful they peaked at 23 on the billboard for this but hook by blues traveler would be a number one if you're going to count it i'm not going to put it on the list because it's a good song i don't care if it's poppy because the lyrical content actually was making fun of pop music. So it's kind of in this zone. I had zombie as well by the cranberries. It's a political protest song about the IRA and two kids getting blown up in, you know, in a, in like a pipe bomb attack. I mean, so how can you

call that poppy just because our dumb asses in America were like, oh, it's all about zombies. Yeah. I mean, can you imagine, because as you scroll through some of this, look, like, some rage against the machine is on some of this top 40. So like rage against the machine was commercially successful in the 90s, a la Cranberries, like you're not listening to the words. No, but there have it, but the comeback of rage has been awesome. Watching everybody kind of self out themselves are not knowing what the music was. Some of my favorite Twitter moments are the guy that's like, rage is too political now. I'm not listening to him.

It's like, dude. Okay. Even that was since 1990. I can tell you how you're listening to the words then. And so can you imagine if that stuff came out now? Oh, it would be so buried. That's Antifa music. That damn Antifa.

Instead of explicit lyrics, it'd be labeled communist lyrics. Oh, yeah, yeah. Trump would have that shit shut down if it ever came out today. But Paul Ryan used to openly admit to jamming to rage against the machine, which is walking rage against Paul Ryan. That was the best

little own on. That was one of the better owns on Twitter. Oh, for sure. So we got, you know, blues travelers out. I'm going to take zombie out of here. Oasis is too good. And by the way, go down that rabbit hole if you haven't lately. It is tremendous.

And another one, can I put sublime on this or no? So I think you should. In fact, didn't somebody just do a new cover of one of their songs on some pop station? I don't know. They should, though. Somebody was covering. I think they should make it.

Mostly because I think that there's a lot of good stuff in those albums that isn't played enough. So I feel like you should talk about it because they deserve to be aging better than they are. I feel like there's a lot of sublime stuff that should be making its way back. into people's ears. So by all means, we should talk about it. Yeah, okay. So I might slide one of their songs on, but I'll just say I'm here to defend them for sure.

I mean, like the ska kind of influenced stuff kind of sucked a little bit, but they- Mighty Mighty-Mighty Bostones did not make my list. Mighty-Mighty Bostones can make, they might actually make my bad songs list. Exactly. Are they the ones that sing Knock-on-Wood? They're the ones that's like the impression that I get.

Yeah, that's the same song. Well, the reason why. why I come across some of this is, you know, part of my method, if you will. The first place I had to go when I started this journey into the 90s was through the soundtracks of the movies at that time. So I had to go through clueless, cruel intentions, singles, reality bites, fear, Marky Mark movie, and Romeo and Juliet to kind of wet my appetite, if you will, and kind of give me some threads to follow. That's a great way. That's a great way because soundtracks were huge in the 90s. They're not so much

anymore I don't feel like. But like speaking of the soundtrack thing, butthole surfers I wanted to put on here, the first time I was introduced to butthole surfers was Herdy Gertie Man. Which, by the way, has aged beautifully. Butthole

surfers are a good fucking band. Now, I'm going to, I, spoiler alert, Pepper, which is their biggest commercial hit from the mid 90s. I still think kind of slap so it's going to make my my uh my list here but they had like a very innovative interesting discography they also they also um one of the records were produced by a dude from

led zeppelin i can't remember which one but uh they were taking relatively kirk cobain said the butthole surfers influenced them so therefore yeah that's a qualifier for me my favorite is that their name was something different and i think the story i heard was the first paid gig they ever got. One of their songs was called Butthole Surfer. And whoever was emcee in the event was like, ladies and gentlemen, now taking the stage, and he read the song instead of their name. So we called them the Butthole Surfers. And they were like, yeah, that's cool. We'll stick with it. And they just kept the name. So I always thought that was pretty funny.

I respect that. And I respect the Butthole surfers. I'm here to say. But I also respect Sublime. And they had good stuff. I think Blue Check Twitter loves to, you know, get kind of punched down. at sublime these days is the is the vibe i get you know because of their simplicity or whatever and then the same blue check turns around and right so five was essay on chief keef and drill music and how important it is so sublime was primetime 90s beach music yeah and if you're a teenager it represented that 40 ounce to freedom poster on the wall that you had the poster before you had the music and you know you caught up in like 1996 i was 11 years old and that's when they're self-titled album came out and that's the one that had all the hits or whatever but the poster was 40 ounce

of freedom and bradley noel did not live to see the success of that band i mean he had no idea he would have been 52 now um but you know i will totally they were that band that you kind of got the lyrics i kind of knew what a kung fu grip was because this was the hand this was like the handy time period for anybody at gi joe exactly danterea could make my list There's a spoiler alert, but I got to decide whether they're actually bad or not. The song is not bad to me. Bad Fish is popular. I love bad fish.

You can't tell me it's not good. The one that didn't age well for me is their second most popular song. What was that song called? Oh, What I Got. Yes. What I got is not aged well. No. I just thought what I got was never going to come to my mind because I've forgotten about it so much.

No. Sublime, I just want to say we're both sublime. fans you got the poster spencers lava lamp black light you knew it was a marijuana and a drinking band but maybe you weren't there yet not at least me yeah i mean i was late to that so yeah but your parents they supported you enough to let you get this poster anyway yes and they had no idea what the fucking poster was about either because if they they listen to some of the words uh that that that were you know that were in my brain at uh 11 years old yeah um so let's uh let's uh let's do a couple what didn't age well for you do you have any that you heard during this time period and you

were like man that that still sucked bad spin doctors spin doctors didn't age well huh there was that two princes song i gave that one a shot and i i still couldn't do it i mean my criteria is what i hit skip in the car and i couldn't do spin doctors yeah yeah you know what i i i Spend Doctors is a song that's perfectly fine to me, and it's more perfectly fine than I expected it to be. In the 90s, when I'm a kid, I'm like, man, the Spend Doctors kind of aren't so great. My taste has evolved a lot,

and I've got to say, I'm more neutral in a good way than I was. But, yeah, Spind Doctors, not great. Lullaby is one of the worst songs of all time by Sean Mullins. I picked it up today on the essential Sean Mullins. He is going to be all. Rockaby why not called the song Rockaby like I didn't know what to do with Celine Dion I didn't know what to do with seal right like some of those I'm like I mean Celine's aged well right she's got a show in Vegas she had the Titanic hit like listen Celine Dion is is plenty successful um you know nobody's wondering what Celine Dion's up to these days the way you wonder what candlebox is doing you know Celine Dion is And by the way, the Titanic motion picture came at a great time.

They offered a class at my high school called, or middle school it was, called photography. And there was a dark room. And, you know, this was a co-head class. Oh, boy. So the Titanic, you know, was fresh. You know, the soundtrack. You know, everybody had that awkward 13-year-old girlfriend. Yeah.

We were 13. Just qualify that. but this was the 90s and Titanic and Celine Dion was a big part of it. You also said Seal, the Batman soundtrack. Just by Rose. Spire Rose. You know, that was a banger that banged in Pops's truck a lot.

Pops's truck used to rock that. Yeah, Dad used to play, it's surprised some people. Dad used to play a lot of Seal, a lot of Shot A. I remember the Shot A. We listened out on the boat once. Yeah. Listen, the boat had a pretty tight rotation. Another thing about the 90s was you kind of had your music shaped by your parents' tastes.

And there was a lot of, I always say, Tunnel of Love was an automatic Bruce Springsteen on the boat. I think in the 90s, I saw Annie Lennox open for Sting at the Nissan Pavilion. Wow. Yeah. I feel like that, yeah. So therefore I couldn't. A lot of old people having sex after that concert. Yeah, I might as well have gone to a Rod Stewart concert.

I mean, totally. Hey, Annie Lennox had that one song. She makes the list. That song is terrible. Walking on Broken Glass. Yeah, I don't like the song. No disrespect to Annie Lennox. I just don't like the song.

I don't know much of her music. But, yeah, for me, that's very... The crowd went crazy when she sang Walking on Broken Glass. Good for her. Hey, runaway train, Soul Asylum makes my bad song list. Fair, completely. Yeah. Yeah.

They also had that kind of that uncreative album cover look, where it was just like we put sepia tone on some obscure picture of two people walking down the street and we'll call it an album cover. Like that was a big 90s thing to do that kind of distorted filter on pictures. Speaking of filter, it was filter bad? Because filter, for me, they still slap. Yeah, I don't know. Hey man, nice shot.

Ooh, that was filter? A shot is a fucking banger. I'm not putting that one. I didn't know that was filter. Yeah. Picture is the one. Take my picture. That's why I didn't like it.

I got you. Okay. Yeah, I was kind of torn on that one. Because you want to take my picture. That's filter? Yeah, that's filter. And also. And then they also do Hey Man, Nice Shot?

Yeah, they're very rangy. It's one was a song that people have wondered out loud if it was about Kirk Cobain. I don't know if that's true or not. And then there's that 1999 song that was like, you know, Hey Man, Nice Shot was like a band on drugs. And then 1999 was like a band trying to make money. And Picture, by the way, if you try to Google picture filter,

it's one of the most unsearchable song band combos in the Google search engine. I mean, did they know that they were going to be relatively unsearchable by 2020? Filter and picture? Filter, picture. It's like, dude, I couldn't find, I was looking for facts about the song. I'm like, you got Kodak out the, you got Kodak out the wazoo.

Yeah, exactly. I got a bunch of Instagram models on the Google when you do that. So yeah, I would say filter doesn't make it. Let me, one week is that song that one week since you look, you know. Bare naked ladies. Oh, I hate that song so much. It almost made my list. I'm glad it didn't.

Judgment zone. I know. Like, as I made this list, I was defending, I was thinking of my possible defenses because I feel like this 90s list, you know, people are going to be like, that's garbage or it isn't garbage. So I couldn't defend it. So I left it off. So I'm glad I did. Well, here's what you do. Anybody young who judges your list say you're too young, you wouldn't understand. And then people- I got shoes older than you. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. That song one week, though, had you put it on the list, I often tell people, uh, wookie. Coach Wookie was a huge part of my success as a professional athlete and as a man. But if you put one week on your list, I was going to no longer. Talk me a point. Yeah. Truly madly deeply by Savage.

Oh, no. Terrible. Terrible. Because you play. The 90s were famous for like the creation of girl and boy. Oh, God. The girl and boy band thing, I feel like, happened in the 90s. Is that accurate?

Yes. But how miraculous is it that Justin Timberlake? has launched the terrific career that he has out of the boy band. So I was one of the people that made the statement. He won't make it. Yeah, well, he made it and then some. And somehow is kind of cool. And, you know, by all accounts, is a super good dude, too.

So, hey, listen, truly madly, deeply, they should do a challenge that I don't want to be any part of, but I'd like to see it tried. just see how long you can ride in a car with one of your buddies before you have to hit stop playing that at high volume. Just you two in the car. All right, let's do honorable mentions. What just missed the cut for you? Well, so the first one that I'd want to talk about would be,

because I didn't know what to do with it, would be James would be laid by James. I feel like it wasn't garbage at the time. It was a hilarious song. I don't think people even know. Like, I told someone today that I was, you know, thinking about that song. They listened to it and they're like, oh, my God, it's awesome. So that one is like, was it really bad or not? I don't know.

But I think you should give James Laid a listen. I mean, the lyrics used to just crack me up. And it was one of those things where if you blasted it, your mom would be mad because she hated the lyrics. It's about sex. Obviously. So obviously, because some bands, like the president, The United States of America had a song called Peaches that was not actually about peaches. Fair.

In music, sexual innuendo is a well-beaten path. So others that were just barely missing. It was either for criteria like they didn't suck and maybe the, you know, I don't know where I'd put him, but Gangsters Paradise by Coolio. Yeah. What was the soundtrack that that was Dangerous Minds? Dangerous Minds, thank you. El Fifer. Like, I think Fiona Apple was good back in the day.

So I don't know if I can count criminal, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Closer to Free by the Bodine's was a good one. Okay, yeah, I saw that on your list. I didn't know what to do with that one. And then getting jiggy with it, I didn't know if that was, was that really good back in the time? Because I feel like I still hear it.

I think it was only good if you were nine years old. So I'm wondering if how old you were when that came out. Right, exactly. I remember Jess was like, I may not, this may not work out. You had Will Smith CDs as a college student? Yes. I'm going to own it. I did.

Let the Twitter trolls roll. You know what, but Jess' parents were probably happy to see that you had a Will Smith CD in your case logic because that means that you were a virgin. Oh, man. All right, your turn. Okay, so some honorable mentions for me. Let's see. I guess I did again 7 Mary 3

Cumbersome aged better than I thought They came from this whole genre of music That was like creed collective soul It was a subcategory of bands That ended every word with Yeah You know like Like crassessed dummies with that weird sound

Well yeah I mean I It was just every word just ends in a Yeah the end of every Yeah it's hard to It's hard to do it. But I think it was an offshoot of, like, they were trying to do the Seattle grunge thing. And a few of those bands, I think, were from Seattle. Seven Mary three was from William and Mary.

Yes, dude. How about that? Exactly. I was about to hit you with that. Far from grunge. Yeah, people thought they imitated Pearl Jam, like, emerging from the scene. And, you know, like, everybody up in Seattle, like, there's, like, heroin needles everywhere. It's real grungy.

Like, Williamsburg is, like, the place of, of, of, Revolutionary War reenactments and like... And people still dress up in Colonial Williamsburg. Yeah, I mean, but somehow they kind of made it work. And by the way, Days of the New, Touch, Peel, and Stand is a good one, too, in the same category there. But they kind of sounded, some of these bands sounded like Pearl Jam, some of them sound like Allison Chains.

And Creed, of course, you know, was the pinnacle of that subgenre there. I will say Peaches, by Presence of the United States of America, a band that I went back to head a few lump. If you remember Lump, you remember Kitty. Yeah. They won the award that's like, hey, look, remember this band? Like, I'm not going to put them on my list because I never thought they were trash. They weren't popular enough to be trash, but they flirted with popularity.

But they're not good enough, you know, when it comes to a second listen to make the list. And the most interesting part about Presidents of the United States of America, and this was heartwarming. When you looked them up on Wikipedia to see if they're still touring, they actually made it to 2000. 18, but they're not doing it anymore. They broke up. It's not about heroin. It's not about band members fighting each other or fucking each other's girlfriends. It's about the band quote becoming old people now. The band members are old people now. So that's why they broke out. Their final show was what? Like Mall of America, 2018?

But what I love is that this is a quote from somebody in the band that they didn't take themselves seriously enough to make up some like, you know, emo. reason they were just like we're kind of just old suburban dad looking dudes now and we don't do you know so we don't really do rock and roll anymore i respect you're not forcing that you know lightning crashes we talked about that you know sentimental one of the little heavy for a nine 10 year old kid you know it's about death and childbirth and yeah anyways they're they probably just missed the cut for me i want to give a big shout out to um two of the best female voices in the 90s here.

So Joan Osborne, okay? What if God was one of us? Hey, yeah, absolutely. That motherfucker's spitting. You know how they say that on the internet?

That M. F. spitting, dude. Joan Osborne was dropping truth in, in the 90s on my 10-year-old brain. Like, listen, she really,

I don't know if I liked the song much, but the lyrical content was very, I sat and thought about it. In my room on my Walkman, I had the Joan Osborne. By the way, for anybody that watches alone in the Arctic on Netflix, she is a dead ringer for the chick that came in second place in season six. By the way, and shout out to Jordan from Lynchburg, Virginia, who won the whole thing. McGrain, the show's amazing.

Did you, but what Walkman did you have? Did you have the Sportman? The orange one. Yes. The yellowish orange one. Yeah, okay, cool. The one that had like the clipover for extra protection. in case you dropped it.

Yeah, if you dropped it, the last thing you want to do. Imagine working out now with a walkman? No, I can't. I mean, like, where do you put it? Can you really work out with a walkman? I mean, like, the court, it's so heavy. The court is so stiff and gets so bunchy. You know, that you're going to get a rash or a skinny or tears.

And they had those old foam headphones as soon as you sweat. Yeah, and as soon as it fell off, it fucking hurt your ear, bro. It was like, I'm out four to six weeks with a. under the foam walkman you know headphone injury it's like yeah and also if it dropped in your cd the worst sound of the world was your cd same thing went for DVDs and blu-ray where they fell on the ground on concrete and just rolled around for a second you're like that's not coming out and everybody sold the cd scratch kits and not a single one of them worked none of them worked bro none of them work by the way and i don't want to leave this out here because i talked about

Joan Osborne. The woman who had the voice of the 90s, Natalie Merchant, okay? Oh, 10,000 maniacs. Heck yeah. Great voice. Kind and generous was her kind of big single, but Wonder was a great song too. Natalie Merchant, good vibes. Probably just missed the cut in 2020, but, but you know, those two leading ladies in the 90s were terrific. Also, Gwen Stefani, was she's still a rock star i think of Cheryl crow was great Cheryl crow probably there's probably a song on here um when did that song about when the sun comes up over Santa Monica boulevard when when did when did that song come out early 90s probably I might put that on the list really yeah that was a good one um anyways those those are songs for me that kind of missed missed the cut a little bit

why don't you give me your 10 through 5 so we can get this thing to be a little climactic okay All right. So 10, I'm sticking with it. They're not on the fence. Number 10 is James Laid. Got it. James Laid. Commitment.

Nine and eight are a bit of a push for me. Okay. They're interchangeable. I got candlebox far behind and low by Cracker. I mean, listen, I think both of those are low on your list. I candleboxes really I I think I got some sleepers up in the top five then because you know low was I think that song still's got a little bit I mean I think that song still hits dude it really slaps it's got a shot of my top five candlebox far behind like as soon as the opening of that song comes on you're like oh my god that's candlebox but then you're like but what the hell is the song title bro it's it's in the hall of fame of songs that you don't remember it's far behind, right? Or so far behind? Yeah, far behind, I think. Far behind. Not so far behind. It's just, you're just a little far behind. And, but when that opening hits, you're like,

oh my God, that's Candlebox. Like, I knew instantly. I have it written down in my notes for consideration as so far away by Candlebox. It's a great song, dude. And they sound, they have a three doors down vibe. Like, I'm pretty sure three doors down studied Candlebox. That album that, you know, in 93 or 94 that had that song so far behind or whatever the song is called was pretty damn actually good and I think they get unfairly lumped in with a lot of bad music all right so going to seven I'm too sexy by right said Fred do you remember that song I love that wookie's daughter just rolled up behind him as he's talking about the song I'm too sexy by right said Fred exactly he's going to judge your musical taste it's such a bad

song. You really could listen to that song right now? Oh, totally. I did. When it hit on the radio, it's like, it's still funny. It's still funny. You're not hitting skip on that because you're like, oh my God, this is so funny. I think you'd have to be like at a party that people are having fun in the daytime by

a pool. Look, that song comes on at a party, that song comes on anywhere and it's immediately laughs in a good time. I don't think it ages. It's still fun. Okay. Okay. And half the reason I have to be really defensive, is because if you don't like seven, you're sure as hell not going to like six, which is I touch myself by the divinels.

Can you sing that song? When I think about you, I touch my song. Okay, I know the song. I know the song. Yeah, you know what? That's just very 90s. So I respect it. Also, like, yeah, again, different times for you and me.

You were damn near in college when that song came out. Yeah. And then five for me would be tub-thumping by Chumbabwumba. I dare you not to rock out to that. When they sing I get knocked down, but I get up again, come on. That'll fire you up. You know, it's a fun song. It reminds me of like, you know what reminds me of like New Year's parties where you snuck out or like field parties?

Yeah. Because I was a preteen and, you know, this reminds me of like very early Stone Age beer buzzes. you know like you had a beer or two you snuck out of the house and there were girls so for the longest time i thought the whole i get knocked down but i get up again was about puking and rallying tell me it's not about something else i don't know what it's really about but it was kind of like the war song for puk and rally yeah it's got to be i mean there's there's no way that song don't don't ruin the whole show by telling me otherwise it can't it's got to be about that all right that's my that's my five and i'm telling you i'm really i'm really

really excited about, I'm really excited about my top five. Okay, so my 10 through five, before we get there, I left off a couple honorable mentions. I don't want to disrespect one headlight by the wallflowers. This. Oh, wow. Yeah. That's a good song. It is a good song, but my argument for leaving it off is that I don't ever thought, I think in the 90s, I thought it was good. and I think it's been overplayed to the point where it's bad. I think it's fringe top 10.

There's going to be something they're going to make the list that I don't like as much as one headlight, but they've exceeded expectations more, okay? He's Dylan's son. Is it? Jacob Dylan, I think it's Bob Dylan's son. Really? Yeah, so I don't, so I feel like just calling it bad as a knock on Bob Dylan too, and that's not good. He also did, he kind of looks like him, so that makes sense.

Yeah. You know, I always thought he had like a real good manly, like Chevy voice. Yeah. He actually has a better voice than Bob Dylan. Well, yeah, I mean, now for sure. Now it's like mumbling, but, sorry. Yeah, but even like Bob Dylan, it was never about the voice. Bob Dylan is a legend, but it was never about the voice to me.

It was also he had an interesting voice. So I don't know that, yeah, I don't know. Bob's voice is very Bob Dylan and that's who can pull it off. that makes sense I'll also want to give a shout out to Silver Chair for any of you out there listening Silver Chair is an Australian

band from the early to mid-90s they had an album cover with a frog with a frog with a frog and the hit was tomorrow tomorrow still really slaps tomorrow I just I don't think it's ever been bad

so I'm going to leave it off the list. I don't think I ever had a thought in my head that that song wasn't a banger. They just didn't have a lot of other songs. By the way, they made albums into 2010s, which is crazy. Fly Away by

Lenny Kravitz. It overcame probably being on like every airline commercial slash Sandals Vacation. Yep. Had early 2000s commercial to be listenable. And I'm not a Lenny Kravitz fan. I thought you were going to stop at fly and talk about Sugar Ray and I was going to have to

make issue with that. Yeah, what's the deal? Do we like Sugar Ray still? I don't think so. I don't think he's gotten better. I also think that that one song probably exceeded expectations a little bit. And it's also iconic that what's the what's the song about every morning? Yeah.

Yeah. Or baby, don't play a word. Yeah. I mean, everybody knows that that. guitar chord or whatever it like they know that tune it's just gotten you know so i at least respect that praise you which i don't know that that was ever a bad song but that's aged well so my argument for that one is you can't say that song was bad if christopher walkin was in the was in the music video you're right christopher walkin doesn't show up for shitty songs fair um

also you had uh the verve on there initially which i took issue with uh it's a great point What was the song? Did you still have them on your... Nope. Okay, because... I think it's a good song. It's just a legitimately always been a good song. I don't think it was bad.

I don't think it meets the criteria. I don't think if somebody said, go listen to that song, what do you think of it? And I hadn't heard it in 20 years. I'd ever think it was bad. So it's a very soundtrack-y song. It's been played a lot,

but it's also very good, considering how much has been played. The Superman's Dead song by Our Lady Peace, I don't remember that song. You know what? And I just played Superman's Dead for Wookie and the reaction says it all. The song slabs. Good.

It's good. And that's why I think I'm going to put them in my top 10 at 10 and pull. I'm going to pull Mr. Jones off. And I'll tell you where Mr. Jones was by the counting crows. Mr. Jones was sitting pretty at about six. but here's the problem with Mr. Jones and by the way, August and everything after is a classic also stable in Big Howey's Red Suburban

in the mid-90. Yeah, I think I heard Omaha when he picked me up at the airport in Montana once. Omaha on that album. Yeah, they were only in Omaha, by the way, is a pretty good song and supposedly a nice city. Yeah, yeah. It is. I've been there for work a bunch of times.

So we can confirm that. Mr. Jones, my argument is that I think, I thought it was like art, art in the 90s. It is just art with a lowercase a singular in 2020. It is a song. It is a catchy song. Everybody knows, you know, that guitar starts and you know what time it is. And it's a good album. It's a respectable song.

But I think I had an inflated idea of it in the 90s because, I didn't think of it as pop in the 90s as a kid. And it certainly was poppy. And the song's actually about him and the bassist would go to these Hollywood bars and see other musicians that were more recognizable getting a ton of girls and whatever. And they would just get jealous

because they could never get girls. So that's what the song is evidently about. He revealed that in like 2018. So I'm taking Mr. Jones off. Superman's dead. Our Lady Peace at 10. Number nine, this is going to be polarizing. Walking on the Sun.

smash mouth okay well i mean the first thought you have is all-star the first thought i have is the guy had the guy fieri tips is in like wore bowling shirts because that's kind of the there was the thing you know um but i have respect for this song if you i'm not putting it high on the list i'm just going to tell you y'all listening out there go back play walking on the sun loud in your car judgment free zone Don't bring anybody so you don't feel awkward. Just face the truth. And the truth is that walking on the sun still slaps. Still slaps.

I give it four walkmans. Whereas, yeah, if it's Primo, you give it a disc man, right? Yeah, you give it four disc mans or five disc mans. This is five, five, uh, anyways, walking on the sun for me is, is nine. Um, eight. This was a one hit wonder group here. Marcy Playground. Yeah.

Okay. I didn't know they were one hit wonder until I looked this up recently. Evidently it's about the lead singer John Wozniak, by the way. John Wozniak, which is the name of the guy. Interesting. The last dance is any relation. Yeah. John, I have questions.

John Wozniak, when he was in college, said that a girl walked in on him and his girlfriend in the dorm room at, it was some small liberal arts college in Pennsylvania. He said the girl said it smells like sex and candy in here, and it stuck. And who knew that that would make their musical careers. And make them a fortune of money, too. Number eight on the billboard. Yeah. It was a good song.

You don't have to have sex with smelly people if you're at number eight on the billboard. No, you're done with those days. Doesn't smell like sex and kids. It just smells like candy now. Yeah. They're going to be at eight for me. That's a good pick. I like that song.

Yeah, they're going to be at eight. Now, seven, hooty and the blowfish. Everybody loves to hate on him. Everybody loves to hate on Hootie and the Blowfish, but nobody likes to hate on, you know, Darius Rucker. Like, I feel like everybody loves. Darius Rucker, everybody hates Hootie and the Blowfish. I, for one, do not hate Hootie and the Blowfish.

Not only did Dad blast it in the boat and the suburban, but when you go back and listen to Crack Rearview Mirror or whatever, crack rearview, which was a very 90s album cover as well, the album art's very 90s, the songs that really made noise are not the good ones. Running from an Angel is the song that I think aged the best. most unexpectedly. It was not a single. It's one that I think would do well in 2020 on the mainstream waves. But it aged well. And I love Hootie. So give me them at 10, 9, 87. At 6, rounding out my bottom five of my top 10. What's the frequency, Kenneth?

So some folks are going to say REM is too good to make the list. Yeah, you know what? I could see that. I can totally see that. But just in case they don't criticize me, I'd like to put him at six. And you know what? If you don't think that what's the frequency, Kenneth, is bad enough music, I'll slide silver chairs tomorrow in there.

I mean, I doubt people take... No, isn't what's the frequency about some guy who, like, attacked Dan rather in the street and yelled at him? What's the frequency Kenneth or something like that? I think it was true. And REM, by the way, I'm not anti-R-E-M. I just know there's a lot of anti-R-EM sentiment by some. Yeah, a lot of their songs sound the same.

People would complain about it. Yeah, it was poppy. But, you know, my sixth grade girlfriend, her dad worked for REM. And I don't want to docks her or anything. But I just want to take this time to thank Courtney D.S. for all the band gear. she was really cool and her dad was awesome

and got some band gear for me and I gave her a goosebumps book for Christmas. I wrapped it. I had read it already. I wrapped it and I gave her a goosebumps book in six years. That's awesome.

So yeah, what's the frequency, Kenneth? Believe them. It was an investment. They made an investment early. Yes. It paid off today.

It paid off today. I love it. So give me your top five here. Okay. My top five. Yeah. At number five, meet Virginia by train. I support it.

I went to a train concert at a place called Tracks in Charlottesville for any of this Charlottesville listeners. And you probably remember this. Tracks was a rough place. I shouldn't have been in there in 1995 or 98, whatever it was. Still plays today. It warmed my heart. At number four, it warms my heart that you were on the pooper listening to Bitch by Meredith Brooks because she made my list. At number four.

Wow. Wow. Somebody's going to psychoanalyze my piece. picks and determine that I'm just a whack. Maybe. Yeah, with bitch, I touch myself and I'm too sexy. It only gets worse from here. Three, I think this

some may, La Vita Loca, let's face it. You put that song on and you're bebopping around. Ricky Martin, La Vita Loca at number three. No. No? You're not bebopping to that? No, in fact, I'm reconsidering this whole thing. friendship, this whole.

LaVita, are you serious? Bro, I can stand that song. You know, the only thing I can stand less is Matchbox 20 doing stuff with Santana. Yeah, fair. All right, harsh. Number two, what is love by Hadaway? I mean, yeah.

Made famous by Night at the Roxbury. It's very synonymous with Night at the Roxbury and a fun song still. a lot of you know cricks in people's necks from trying to do the night at the Roxbury thing with the head yeah and I think the song was garbage

when it came out and now it's like transcended to like so bad it's good garbage yeah you know what you're right about that you're right about that it's a more listenable Barbie girl yeah barbby girl they make my list I have standards no but I mean

you know what I mean it was like I don't know what that song was made for, but it's, we're here and we have it, and it's high on your list. And number one, and under the theory that if a stadium still plays it today, it's still good, is macarena. Macarena. Number one, for music that's aged well. When it came out, it was kind of cool and everybody laughed and did the dance. Then they played it so much everybody hated it.

Fast forward to nowadays people play it, it's cool again. You know what? I'm not going to shit on that take. You know, like, it's hard to age when you were never sounded like 90s music at all. Like, if you really disassociate it with, you know, the stadium, now that's what I call music, the, you know, the various Billboard top 10 CDs that it was on, it was like nothing else that we were listening to in the 90s. Right. And it was overplayed and people hated it.

And now that it's coming back, people are like, ah, this is a fun little day. dance to do. And it's like this fresh new thing again. I don't think people even know it was in the night. And the song almost didn't happen. It was originally written like at some club after a lady named Diana. And they decided to name it. Yeah, they decided to name it Macarena after one of the dude's daughters. I venture to say that if it was hey, Diana, it goes no as well. It doesn't go anywhere. Yeah, it wouldn't do as well. You're right about that. I wonder where Macarena is now? What, like on a list somewhere?

No, the daughter that they wrote Macarena about. Ooh, I like that. That's a quest for the truth there, my friend. I think he goes around and tells people like, hey, I am like actually the macarena. Maybe. Okay, so my top five

and this is really hard, man. I mean, it's you know, it's not necessarily what song you like the best. It's what age is the best. Again, give me at five a song that you're not going to remember just based off me saying the title or the band plowed by Sponge. Oh, no, I argue

they had a CD cover with Candy Corn right up your alley. Tastiest album cover of all time. Tastiest album cover ever. I like it. I mean, I'm salivating right now thinking about that album cover. Yeah. Candy corn is elite

I died on that hill in October Say a prayer for me And then I got the backup guy Totally love it Yeah and it's another top song That you can't remember the name of I'll put that at five Give me

Here's what you forgot okay And I'll probably slide it into six And move something around Possum Kingdom The Toadies The Toadies You blew it. I blew it.

You had it written down. I stayed off it because I thought it was on your top 10. You forgot. That's an elite song. It's top five worthy. However we got here, we got here. Just know that we respect the toadies. There may be just missed the bubble due to clerical error.

F4, I'm going to go with Everclear, not to be confused with Everlast, which I flirted with discussing. But here we are. We are discussing Everlast. is Everlast bad music? No, I don't think so. It is what it is. Everclear still slaps big time.

Father of mine, but Santa Monica. Santa Monica really still hits right where it needs to hit. I agree with that thing. I could listen to that in a group of people. Yeah. Yeah, I like that pick a lot. Okay. I'm trying to remember the Santa,

they were kind of an older group looking guys, weren't they? Yeah, they got old looking fast. But let me say this. Of all the groups that we're talking about here, I have respect for Everclear. Everclear is going to make my top five. They're at four with Santa Monica. Also honorable mention, Father of Mine, three, this is one that I'm passionate about, okay? You cannot convince me that offspring, the offspring are not important or that self-esteem is

a certified banger, okay? 36-year career, nine albums. They have some poppy stuff. They have some stuff that you remember, but like they were a part of that group, huh? Are they the ones that said, gotta keep them separated? Is that awesome?

Yeah, uh-huh. Hey, yeah, dude. And when you were like, when you were like a preteen, you were like, yeah, like these guys are tough. And, uh, but they had a big, long career. They're part of a group that kind of revived Pumner. as it pertained to the mainstream in the 90s.

And we just got interrupted because the kids came in to say good night for those listening and my lovely wife Meg stopped by. She's not really in the 90s music. I don't know what she was doing in the 90s, but it wasn't listening to this music. She did mention that maybe I should take a good hard look at the Hanson Brothers group, which- No, negative.

Not only is that a bad call, but also it's just Hanson. no it's in brothers it's it just mbop does not get better stop no more like you stop um i hear people that are like that song still makes me happy and i'm like no no never makes me happy makes me the opposite happy okay so i was on a good band the offspring 36 years nine albums part of the group to revive punk is it pertain to be a mainstream the lead guy i forget his first name holland uh he just completed his PhD thesis in molecular biology. What?

He's a fucking genius, dude. No way. I keep separated molecules. That was all about molecules, it turns out. Holy cow. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.

So anybody in his PhD class knew he was offspring? I don't know, man, because they're pretty young, probably. They're a lot younger than him. I mean, he's way older now and he's in there just, I respect. band that I really respect here. I respect this guy, Holland, and I respect the offspring. So, offspring self-esteem at three.

So two and one here. This was a tough call. The song that Damnear spurred this entire exercise was in the meantime by Spacehog. And they're going to come in number two. In the meantime, is a great song. VH1 was like my growth,

like you grew up on VH1 in the 90. They had a shit. B.H1 had this thing called pop-up video. Do you remember that show? Pop-up video. And they had the bubble facts on it. Oh, I loved it. For some reason, I always remember Spacehog that one of the dudes' jobs before he joined Spacehog

was like killing rats in a New York City cafe. What? Yeah, before we actually got in the band, his job was to kill rat. He was like Liam Neeson in the gray, but like a hipster in the 90s. Exactly. I don't know why. Like when we started this whole 90s thing, VH1 just pops in my head. And I remember I love pop-up video.

I remember the whole space hog video, all of it. Listen. I think one of the dudes married lived Tyler. He should. He deserves it. They did a great thing. This, this song in the meantime is, and some of you all out there might not know what song I'm talking about. With this song, it's one of the songs that, like, I've never known the words to.

and not the holy moor to hell and then but I won't I won't for the life of me look it up because it's part of the mystique is I don't know what he's saying now the thing that kept this song from being number one for me is the bridge the bridge on this song really sucks

everything else about the song is damn near perfect it's a classic I think Spacehog was in one of my first shipments do you remember Columbia house it was this weird thing where you would sign up and get 20 CDs for like 99 cents. But then the next month, your parents would get a bill for like 40 bucks for one CD. Ah, yeah. Yeah.

They named you. Yeah. That's great. And like every kid growing up in the 90s parents got stuck with like $2.40 bills before they pulled the plug. Was they randomized? No, you got to pick them. Spacehog was in there for me, man. Oh, that's great, man.

I'm so glad we can come together over Spacehog. You really worried me with the Levita Loca stuff. And the Will Smith thing. I took a bit of a beating on Will Smith. I mean, I gave you a beat. because, you know, you know, in college is,

you know, it's a lot to, to comprehend because I used to think of you as this, this man among men. Yeah. Number one here,

it's a jumper by third eye blind, okay? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. I'm giving him, I'm giving him the title.

Okay. Jump. Jumper. Wish you. would step out? Listen, I never thought that in 2020, I would be saying,

like, Jumper is one of the songs from the 90s, the age of the best, but the last two and a half minutes of the song is legendary. You know, the guitar riff,

the first minute and a half kind of pedestrian, but the last two and a half minutes is that good, that good. I would understand. I love that song. Understand.

That is a sleeper. Yeah, I agree. It fits the bill for the whole exercise. I love that song. I love the song. So that's our top 10. We're going to mock this up so you can see it online. And we're also going to put all these songs that we mentioned on a playlist.

And maybe a few other surprises. Like, we didn't even talk about one of my – I can't say the song. Yeah, you have to. Stay at it. I can't say. The song is just – It's so mindlessly good, but the title of the song, I can't get past,

is if you don't love me, I'll kill myself by Pete Drodd. Off the Dumb and Dumber soundtrack. Maybe the nostalgia is getting to me, but that's not a song title that I think plays. I mean, that's really bad tactic to get somebody to love you. Yeah, if you don't love me, just leave it there. If you don't love me off the Dumb and Dumber soundtrack is tremendous. There's some we missed here. You know, praise you we talked about.

by Fat Boy Slim. It's not actually bad. And by the way, I don't want to disrespect Matchbox 20. I don't know if earlier we were joking, but offline we said that are they still getting gigs? Matchbox 20 is absolutely getting gigs. They'll randomly get like a halftime show on Thanksgiving for like a Lions game in 2020.

I just know it's going to happen. And they'll get like a nice Super Bowl party. I'll be at like Super Bowl in two years and they'll be like, and next up, Matchbox 20. You know, like, so match. It'll be at one of the like off, off venue pre-super Bowl shows. The pre-pre-parties. Yes.

The Nokia party. Yeah. So I hope you all enjoyed it. Again, these were songs that age better than we thought from the 90s. So go down the rabbit hole, Coach Wookie, your host, Chris Long. We'll be back Friday. Leave it at that. Y'all take care.