Green Light with Chris Long - Colt McCoy! NFL Career, Kyler Murray & Cardinals under Jonathan Gannon. Talkin' Sports: Antonio Brown, Bob Huggins & Jack Jones

Episode Date: June 20, 2023

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To kick off the show, we've got Chris and Macon. We talk a little college world series, some FOMO from Bonaroo, Great Father's Day Ode. Colt McCoy joins all the way from Arizona. He's going to talk everything Arizona Cardinals. He gives a little look at what the Cardinals are like under Jonathan Gannon, the new head coach down in Arizona. He also talks about Kyler Murray goes in depth on his whole NFL career.

Also, his career at Texas tells some great Vince Young stories. We have a good time with Colt. And then after Colt, we talk some sports. It's read around the world. We hit a couple sports topics in Antonio Brown, Jack Jones, Bob Huggins, the Bradley Beal Trade. And then we've got a very special question for making it, Chris. We have a good little time today.

Y'all, please enjoy. For the listeners at home, I got a soccer jersey on. It's Didier Dragba. I went home the other day. I felt so good after we did that podcast with Kyle and I wore the A.C. Milan jersey. I don't know if you guys noticed that. It's an Italian soccer team.

Kyle didn't say a fucking word about it. It was the Italy pod. He was like, nice jersey. I've never seen one with the buttons on it. Yep, Kyle, that's, that's, uh, Inner Milan, not AC Milan. Yeah, big rivals. Inner Milan.

Yeah, well, I mean, you know, good catch. So I got on Nike last night, or actually a couple nights ago. Nike.com. Hadn't done it in a while. And absolutely did one of those stone splurges where you're just like, yeah, I want it all. Would we get it? I got 12 soccer kits. So the rest of the year, at least, we'll see how long this goes.

but like, I just love the way I feel in kits, man. You know, I'm a kit guy. And yeah, there's going to be some people who are going to gatekeep the sport and like, like, you don't even like soccer. Well, maybe I'm pretending to like it. We'll talk about that later, things that we pretend to like. So I'm going to pretend to like soccer the rest of the year. I do like soccer. Did you pretend to watch the baseball game?

No, no, the USA soccer games is best. I didn't pretend. I didn't pretend that hard. There was that one guy. That's right. And there's also Gio Raina. Yep. There's a good tweet.

Raina's playing like a man that knows he has to impress a man that was blackmailed by his parents. I get that joke. I get that joke. Yeah, we covered that on this show. So I pretended enough to get that joke. So I'll be wearing kits the rest of the year. I got some sweet ones.

I got Nigeria, the Super Eagles. I'm going to stay all. I got the LeBron, Liverpool, Jersey. I got a few, I got a few internationals. I want to stay away from the EPL because I got a pretend. like I'm a Liverpool fan, so I can't be wearing like, you know, Everton to the pod. Anyways, you got a hello? Los Angeles.

Hello! Why Los Angeles? Side of the U.S. Open won by a cat named Windham. Speaking of pretending to like stuff. Wyndham Clark. Golf. $3.6 million richer is Wyndham Clark today. Good for him.

Two cats in contention named Windham and Rory. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, and Rory, I feel bad for him. I'll probably give him a hollow man. Not knowing much about the sport. I didn't watch yesterday. It's not as pretty as Augusta.

Didn't have the feel of a U.S. Open at being in L.A. There are cranes in the backgrounds. There's planes flying overhead. There were constant planes. No. There were. No fans. So there was 9,000 general admission tickets.

4,500 of those were purchased by the club, the L.A. country. Club, they attempted to buy them all. So like only LA country club members. When the fans mob the fairware whatever it was at the end or tried to get up to the green. Yeah, it was

sick, but it was the exact right amount of people that I would assume like maybe they're hired. Like hired actors. It probably could have been. Everybody holding up their iPhones. Listen, I don't want to... Staff with a bunch of cops. I don't want to be Mr. like you know, too cool for

golf. But I just, it's hard for me. That's just because you're not betting on it. And I'm not playing it. No, if you were betting on it, it's like the most. I need to bet on it. And you and you actually won some bets because Cowboy Reed. Cowboy Reed told me that Wyndham Clark was pretty good and I bet him 80 to 1. So shouts out to Cowboy Reed.

How much did you put on it if you don't mind us asking? 25 bucks. Nice. Nice. Do that quick math. That's $2,000. Yeah. Okay, so good.

Yeah. Rory lost out on 500 mill last week, he realized. and then, you know, he's waited nine years to win a major, and he's got to watch this guy, Wyndham, what's his last name, Clark? Wyndham Clark win the whole thing, and of course his story is undeniably one that everybody's behind. Yeah. You know, lost his mom 10 years ago. He's got Los Angeles roots.

You know, like the dude is a 90% or in golf, like easily. He almost quit golf. Yeah. He was 29 years old and he didn't really like break through until now. He's had all this talent. Is that late? Yeah. Yeah.

So, I mean, the whole thing is the interesting thing that I find about golf is that somebody like Rory, who's an international superstar, hunting his first major in a decade, basically, couldn't come up with anything better than the par at the end of that round. But he's got to, like, contend with the fact that the entire world is rooting against him. Yeah. You know, like, that's the thing about golf is, like, if you're the favorite, there's always going to be some guy that you might have never heard of, quite frankly, you don't know his story and you learn about his story as he's breathing down your neck

trying to uh trying to beat you in a major yeah and you're kind of like hey nobody's rooting for me yeah a lot of people were complaining about the course like the u.s open record was 62 and two guys hit 62 on thursday rickie fowler and zander shawful but then the course fought then the course bought back and like i think minus 11 was the winning score right well 10 under yeah 10 under was the winning score also Rory's nine under for 72 holes four days is the lowest

a non-winnerous shot in a U.S. Open. He's got to feel snake bit like a motherfucker. But if he had nice shirt, nice pants, nice shoe but snake bit, clean bit, snake bit. If he had

if he had birdie just one par five, he shot par or over on all the par fives, he'd have been in the playoffs. So you guys got to explain this to me because I did a little research on it, but the drop thing, are you on the side of the people that say he got lucky or is that he got lucky? But it's a real rule. But it's a real rule. And then you get a club length and you can go towards the whole. Now there was some controversy over like how long the club is and how far he actually

milked that thing. Wherever you want. You choose. You always choose your driver because that's the longest club. You choose your driver. And if I was a golfer, I'd have like the longest driver in the whole tournament in my bag. I'd be walking around. There'd be like a fucking shaft sticking out seven feet. I'd be getting caught under the little bridges and, you know, because in the event that this happens and it does, I want a long club. And the thing about it was like me watching, the ball got lodged like down the hill over the lip. So why don't they count club length up and then over? Because like, you know, he actually got to go up like a foot and then over a club length.

Well, like when you hit it into the water, say, or like a penalty area, you have to take it back from behind the directions to where it went in, but this rule just happened to benefit him with the ball being buried. I feel like it's good for golf that he didn't win

because had he won, this would be a big deal. Yeah. You know, like I can't remember, you know, like off top of my head, any other games where it would have been marred by some terrible call and the team won anyways. Yeah, talk to the New Orleans Saints about that.

Yeah, but they didn't win. Oh, right, right. You know, I'm saying, like, had the Saints won, everybody would have been, it would have been a sigh of relief. There'd be no people on the Senate floor with pictures of the play. You know, like, it was bad for the sport because L.A. won that game. But Rory survived a stroke of luck there and didn't come away with the tournament. Yeah, you got to start betting it because it's a four-day sweat.

It's incredibly entertaining. Is Wyndham the guy who stole Ricky's putter? He saw Ricky was making a bunch of putts. Not like literally during the round, but he was like, hey, what kind of putter do you use? Is that a code break in golf? Is that a code break? Then they say he chopped an inch off

and now he's a good putter. Well, all I know is the guy he's sitting there, he's got three minutes to find the ball and be right and hit the ball. It's buried in the fescue. Bottom line, I'm glad he didn't win the tournament

because we would have been hearing a bunch of complaining. It was Scottie Shepler who actually found the ball. It was Shepler. Yeah. So it was hidden. Like there was four people looking for it. Buried.

That rough is, there were a video. videos before the tournament started of people literally dropping the ball straight down to their feet and you couldn't see it, you know, five feet in the air. So there's a problem there. Yeah, well, that's what they do. That's how they're setting it up because they're supposed to be hard. I mean, you have to have guys to find the ball, but they want it to be difficult, that rough to be so thick. And then a fan found, picked up Harry English's ball.

Yeah. Did you see that? That happens sometimes. You just walking along and a guy hits a wayward T shot in the, you know, area where the spectators are and you might just see a ball. This person went baseball. They like ran over to the ball. You know, like they ran over to it. And you have to think like, oh, I'm at a golf tournament.

Maybe this is a player's ball. But, you know, you get excited. Not that person. Not that person. And later this week we'll have some interviews with some golfers. Oh, yeah, we got some golfers. We're going to have some golf content. The fifth major, the Travelers Championship is this week in Hartford.

I know that's what our friend Stanford Steve calls it. Hey, listen. Listen, I saw the picture of Wyndham with his, late mother and I thought oh dear that's why he's not removing the cap because the hairline 10 years ago was pretty high up there he takes a hat off the hairline hasn't moved he's in great shape yeah but he's clearly doing the roma where he thinks he always has to have a yeah he doesn't yeah he's in good shape it's a little high but you know how that that is oh I very much know yeah I do too I do too hey great chip on one cowboy because then I think he

bogey too yeah and then went birdie birdie birdie nice little little round from a guy who hadn't been there before. Yeah. That's golf. That was talking golf. Get a layup line? Can't say we didn't talk golf. Yeah, I'll go, I'm going to go my morning jacket.

I'll go, Evelyn's not real. Yeah, you like that one. That's an oldie but a goody. And what I like to hear it shows. And this weekend, as I mentioned last week, I sat out Bonneroo. And dude, I'm kind of at the age now where, like, FOMO is, It's hard for me to grapple with this. Like I used to have FOMO, I would have gone to Bonner.

I would have gone to Omaha. This weekend I was O for two. I was sitting at home. I could have gone to either place, didn't go. You know, having a pregnant wife doesn't help. But I'm kind of at the age now where the FOMO has dissipated, and it wasn't that bad. You know, I hit the river a lot, had a great weekend. Me and Fax went Friday, had a ball or Saturday.

Reed couldn't go because he was helping his dad. Father's Day coming up. Randy needed some help. Randy needed some help. So, you know, like I had a great weekend, but it was hard. I was getting text messages from guys that were in the belly of the bees. They were out there on the farm at Bonnaroo. Dudes were at corn.

Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Jacket played. Chilters had a big, big old band up there. I'm really bummed. I missed it, but I'm proud of myself. You know, I stayed home.

I did the right thing. Made the best of it. It looked like you had a good Father's Day too. Had a great Father's Day. We'll talk about Father's Day later. But yeah, Omaha, I kind of felt a little, we got to go. I've been to Omaha. Yeah.

I went no nine. But we got to go as like to make some content and have fun. Okay. Virginia should stay a little bit longer than, yeah, in three days. I've been to Omaha. It's a lot of fun. It's tough as a sporting event because it can be 10 days long if you keep on winning. I went no nine the first time Virginia advanced.

I might have told the story, three of us guys, just guys being dudes, a few friends, we're there, we're having a time, we're moving from hotel to hotels, support the who's, who's went one and two, you know, similar sort of deal.

But there was one cab ride home at the end of a night where we asked the cab driver to pull over three separate times because every single one of us had to vomit. This was not a chain reaction, vomit.

It was like, hey man, I'm so sorry, I got to puke. Pull it over on the side of the highway somebody pukes. Five minutes later, he's like,

hey man, you're not going to believe us. I'm going to have to ask you. to pull over, a guy pukes. I was the third, I was like, hey man, I,

I'm going to have to, I'm going to have to throw up and pull over. And this guy, it was, it was very funny, actually, but we were respectful

and that we asked him to pull over, we're not throwing up into his car. Yeah. Fun trip is what I'm trying to say. Yeah, yeah. Omaha,

Nebraska. UVA went, oh, into this go around. Do you, how much blame do you take for the story you told on last week's show

going out of 20-year-old? We've gotten this a few times. over the last 48 hours. None, okay? Because I inserted myself into the Duke series, okay? I was involved. I played a role. And I shipped the guys off to Omaha.

That's on them. I didn't, I don't believe in baseball gods. I don't believe in his karma. Yeah. I don't take any of the blame for Virginia going O&2. Convenient. Very convenient.

New segment. You ready? It's called beefing. Yeah. So you talk about who you're beefing with. I'm beefing with Stanford, Steve. Steve, Coughlin,

he's been on the show. So it's really the timing of the text. Virginia's playing Florida on Friday night. Virginia's up four, two, and the eighth. Reliever gives up a dinger to make it four, three. Virginia gets one back in the ninth. It's five three.

Virginia takes a two-run lead into the ninth. Guy gives up second dinger and then third dinger, tie game, five all. He's then allowed to load the bases before he's lifted for another reliever. It's at that moment

that Stanford, Steve text 10.13 p.m. And then so I say to Steve, shut the fuck up. You were on the way. It was a group text. And he says at least you got to heckled Duke players all last weekend baseball gods. They're real and have great memories. So that was to your question, Cowboy Reed. And then I said a giff of two Padres sitting in the stands, probably watching a Padres game. So Steve, Steve's a real sports fan. He knows that, you know, some people have God and Jesus and the Trinity and stuff. A guy like me, you know, Superfan 99. I got the who's.

That was the very worst moment to text me. Text the guy when he's down. And hey, talk about baseball guys. Maybe that's why Stanford didn't win the ball game. Because you showed your ass at 10, 13 p.m. on Friday night. Steve, who am I beefing with? Steve. Well, Steve, um,

Steve definitely knows how to poke the bear because you take these losses hard. Every school tries to, tries to get their name. They rebrand when they go to Nebraska. Yeah. Like the Omahaogs. Yeah. The OMA balls. Uh-huh.

Oma Hoos, I feel, is a little tough. Yeah. No, it's good. I nominate Humaha. Foma ha, because I got FOMO. That's a nice little, nice little boat to move on it. Okay, so also I wanted to shout out a guy named Quinn Matthews from Stanford. He threw 150 pitches this weekend in the game, 156.

I knew a guy in Little League that played for Dan Morris. Good friend of mine who will go unnamed. He was out there. They had him. Dan Morris had him like, it was like Martha Stewart. Like he was a child factory worker. I mean, there was no pitch count. Every game, he was going the distance. And I'll never forget, 13-year-old year, we went up to the Biggs and we were having a tryout. And he grimaced as he threw in the batting cage and the ball just sailed and hit the top of the net. And everybody in the cage knew. All his comrades knew that it was. was curtains for his arm. And I'd just worry about this guy, Quinn Matthews, but I wanted to

shout him out. Maybe an STL Memorial Award for him for throwing 156 pitches this weekend. He was great. I also saw an inside the park home run. First one in 22 years, little shades of softball there. I love that. It kind of turned into college basketball for a second where it was like the imperfection made it fun. So yeah, I enjoy watching college baseball. I'll keep watching the college world series because Virginia's out. That's not going to stop me. Still get to hang a banner. It's like the final four. Yep.

Flags fly forever. The banner goes up at the park. I just wanted to mention this. I don't know if anybody follows me on Instagram, but I'm accountable. You know, Reed the other day had a bunch of nicely laid out, really well edited softball highlight reels that he dispersed to the entire softball team. It was like, hey, can you guys post this?

I, of course, got my video and thought, how this is funny it was all errors it was like a low light of me it was all like me booting the ball throwing the ball six feet over the first baseman's head the whole second yeah man my shoulders kind of shot i can't throw and so um it was bad and i was like ha this will be funny and then i i pop over to kyle long's instagram and it's all line drives you know all he hits his line drives you know Nate you show his one home run his slugging percentage you know i don't know how they calculate that, but a bunch of double plays and like two, three home runs on the year.

And it's all the good stuff. You don't see any double plays. You don't see him booting the ball at catcher. None of that. And I'm thinking to myself, well, fuck this. I'm not going to post this. I'm the punchline of the joke. And to which Reed, of course, felt really bad. He's still apologizing

about it. You hadn't made him a good one too? Well, then he made a good one out of guilt. But... There's a season highlight, full video that's got everybody, everybody. This is This is a social clip and a YouTube short, basically. So of each one of them. And I didn't want to make like a full highlight of all three of them.

So it's a little more like Kyle's has like my, my bat's fucking venomous and like goofy takes. And Nate's like every single time he said, nice pitch. So basically highlights, low lights. So I was faced with a choice. Do I bury this or do I post it and be accountable, which I am?

So 3 a.m. when I got home from the bar Saturday night, hammer drunk, I posted it when I figured nobody was online, like I figured this would bury the clip. I woke up with a hangover to 60 people flaming my baseball skills. And I just wanted to say it's okay.

Like, I am fine with it. That's why I posted the video. I'm going to post my worst moments on like some influencers on social media. And I just wanted to put that out there and read, no harm, no foul. You know, you want to make me look like shit in front of my half a million followers? You want to make me the punchline of the joke? I don't know how this frickin' app works anymore.

Go to Reels? Like, I'm seeing shit that's many years old. Yeah, yeah, here, hand it to me. It's the one right here. You want to watch it and roast me? Lizzynski. I would like that fix just generally, though. I can't figure.

Huh. Oh, okay. See the fly ball yet? Not yet. Honestly, Kyle should have called me off. And, you know, the nerve Kyle Long has, which one? What are you looking at? The fly ball.

The fly ball. He should have called me off. That's way over on first base. I can play on this team. You think? I've been nervous. You think you can play on this team? No longer.

Yeah. You're probably better than I am. I'm actually pretty solid. You know, I said the other day, let's have a catch. Yeah. No bullshit. I probably should have a catch. Yeah.

Anyways, some of those play is not my fault, but I'll take the blame. I'll take the blame. I'm a good soldier. Okay, so want to wish everybody, happy Father's Day. I think it's a really great day in all seriousness because guys are not really good at talking about their feelings. Like, we're big, tough, hard shell individuals, and we don't say how we feel a lot.

and I think it's a great thing. You see these posts and you get these texts and reach out to my dad. Got to see my dad yesterday. I just love Father's Day. This was my favorite Father's Day yet because my kids are starting to really get what it's about. Meg asked me...

You? Yeah, it's about me. Meg asked me what I want to do for Father's Day. I said, I want to wake up with a hangover, and I want to go to Ace. It's a biscuit and barbecue place. Get some chicken and waffles. And then I want to go to the river with the kids.

We did all those things. came home Saturday night, drunk as a skunk. So anyways, I wake up nine in the morning, hurting, and walked downstairs. The kids have been up for an hour. Meg walks up, she's like, hey, they're waiting for you downstairs. They have something for you. I walk downstairs, and they're dressed like me. They put all my clothes on. Wayland's got my Martin Truex Jr. Orange tank top. He's got my Oakley. He's got my car hard hat, and he's got some, like, kayak gear and he's standing at. He's listening to Whiskey River at the bottom of the stairs. And Luke's, he's podcasted out of. He's got the green light hat on. He also has sunglasses on. And he's like more

buttoned up. But I thought it was the cutest shit in the world. We enjoyed the day. It was awesome. But I, you know, I wanted to wish my dad a happy Father's Day. You know, it's funny when you have a dad who's like really visible, a lot of people apply, you know, their idea of what it's like being that person's kid um and they run with it and I gotta say my dad has never been the dad that was like we gotta go out back and play football we gotta go out and do it like it's not the the the quintessential

football dad the prototypical like little giants dad with the flat top you know I'm not spike he's always just been my dad dude and I just um I appreciate the guy he is one of the you know when they say somebody would give you the shirt off their back he is the personification of that almost to the point where you're like yo dude you you you offer me the shirt three times now like he's just a super helper he's always doing kind things for people he's a great grandfather he's a great friend to me i mean he still is one of my best friends talk to him about work talked to him about football for many years talked to him about being a dad and he's a guy who had no roadmap i mean i've talked about on this show with him like you know his dad wasn't around and you know

to imagine all the challenges of being a dad today and try to imagine making the right decisions, saying the right things, doing the right things, and not having something to go back and compare notes on, it's really a miracle that he was the dad that he's been to me for 38 years. And I'll tell you a quick story about him that I hear from work. And I hear so many stories about my dad. You know, I got to, at the Super Bowl, I got to go to this banquet where he received a broadcasting like Lifetime Achievement Award. Pat Summerall Award. And I showed up thinking he was getting me award at the end of the thing, but it was basically all him. It was like the whole thing

was like a life celebration of my dad. And to hear people that I really admire that I didn't think he had any relationship with get up on that screen or get up on that stage and just talk about what a selfless person my dad is and has always been. I was more proud of him that night than I've ever been. And I didn't say it to him because, well, I did say it to him, but he's uncomfortable with praise. So he's like, oh, thanks, man. So I'll lay it on thick during this podcast because he's not here to stop me from praising him. Like my dad, this is true. When Siri came out, the first year plus that he used Siri, he would say, please to Siri. Like, he would use his manners to talk to Siri. Like, that's the kind of guy he is. My mom told me a story Christmas Eve. They were at

Villanova and went to a 7-Eleven to get something. There was a little old lady who didn't have enough money to pay for her stuff, paid for the whole thing, and then gave her a ride home. You know, like, he's just that kind of guy. Like, I remember one time there was his out of control car at Bel Air. It was a gas station here, and it was going to crash into the gas pump. It was, like, in drive. And he got out and jumped in the car and saved the day. And he, and like swerve the car around. Like he's just a hero, bro. Like he's just a Johnny on the spot.

He's in real life. Yeah, exactly. Probably bigger hero in real life than in movies even. But like, yeah, I mean the guy at my little league, there's Elizabeth Mullen Field. That's his grandmother who raised him. And, you know, he paid for an entire field down to the Little League. You know, like he just has always done the good, right thing.

Like he's always been a guy that's wanted to help people. And yeah, I mean, like, he, he's, doesn't make a big deal about it. So, you know, people don't know about it. He's just, oh, he's been that guy. There's a story I heard about him that perfectly encapsulates who he is. He was an NFL Fox. He was on set.

And Jay Glazer likes to fuck with my dad. And Jay was doing this lottery prank with my dad. Well, he gave my dad a winning ticket for like, I don't know, $50,000, $100,000. And everybody got tickets and the joke was on my dad. he was going to think he won $100,000, and he was going to, he was going to find out that it was, yeah,

I guess it's a good, good prank. He gets the ticket, and he's like, oh my God, and people are like, what, Howie? And he says,

I can't, I can't take this. He walks over and gives it to the makeup gal. And without a second thought, is like, here, take it. Merry Christmas.

Quietly, without, you know, making a big deal about it. And if, the joke, The joke kind of turned around on Jake Glazer. But I think the makeup gal was aware of the joke. But that's just who my dad is, man.

He's, it's not about him. It's never been about him. It's about everybody else. And I love the guy. And when I think about being a dad now, I think about, like, what's our job as dads make? I really do think, as time's gone on, I've realized, like, our job is to be, like,

curators of memories, you know, because this thing goes by in a flash. and I think about like being a kid and having a great dad and how lucky I was. You know, you just have these flashes of memories like scenes or feelings that, you know, you say, don't remember what you do.

Remember how you make people feel. My dad always made me feel safe, loved. He's always said, I love you. He's always been a PDA person. He's always been a hugger, you know, Irish dad. I got these little memories of being out of the boat, listen to Bruce Springsteen in the summer, him taking me to Boy Scouts going to Catalina,

Big Thunder and Little Thunder, being caught out there in a storm, the windows were breaking in our little cabin, and, you know, like, he always went the extra mile to do regular shit with me, even though he lived a really extraordinary life, and he always has, but he's been just my dad, and the way he's made me feel,

and the memories I have of being a kid and feeling good have motivated me to do the same thing for my kids. So like whether it's yesterday, whether it's going to get some ice cream, whether it's, you know, taking that extra hour to play squirt gun fights around the house, blasting Luke in the face. You know, like every little memory counts. And I think that's what being a dad is about is just making those memories with your kids. And so happy Father's Day to everybody out there.

I love my dad. I love my kids. It's been the best gift I've ever gotten. When Waylan was on the way in 2016, I was. just cut by the Rams, I was hurt. I was thinking about retirement. And, you know, sitting in that hospital, I was thinking, like, I'm kind of lost to sea here.

And as soon as Whalen came, it was like I knew what life was about, and I had a purpose that, quite frankly, I didn't have the first 31 years of my life almost. And I often, over that 31-year period, felt like I was lost to sea. like a lot of people in their 20s and that sort of thing. When you're not living,

when you're living for yourself, you're not really living. And, you know, that infusion of a greater purpose really, really saved me in a lot of ways. So I appreciate being a dad. I love it.

And it's a great holiday, man. That's really well said, Chris. Nicely done. Big shout to Big Howe. Fortunately for me, my dad's great at receiving praise, so I just voice you yesterday. So no need to do it here.

Yeah. That was very nice. Nice. Well done. Happy Father's Day to Brad as well. Yeah. Hey, and happy, let me be the first. Happy anniversary to you. Thank you. It's going to rain on our anniversary.

We're thinking about coming back from Montana and stopping in Vegas and doing the Elvis. Hell yeah. Elvis, it's 10-year anniversary. So, yeah, it's going to rain. We're not going to do shit. She was like, you don't have to buy me anything. I'm going to go buy myself something. Right.

music to my ears. Yeah, no doubt about it. All right, so we sat down with, I sat down with Colt McCoy over Zoom. I had played Colt. Actually, when he was on his visit, I remember him and Sam Bradford coming through that year and got to meet him briefly.

I've heard great things about Colt McCoy as a teammate, and obviously a guy that stepped up when he's been called upon, like the Arizona situation, Kyler the whole thing. So we did ask him about Kyler. We talked to him about a lot of his stops. We took a deep dive into Washington commanders and the culture there a little bit. I think you'll enjoy it. Stick around afterwards for things that people pretend that they like, but they don't actually like, maybe like this podcast. I knew you're going to say that.

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I really have a great appreciation for quarterbacks and the league and everything they have to do and everything they go through because I hit him for a long time and it's not fun I would imagine to be the quarterback and colt mccoy is a guy that as i texted around to my different teammates that knew him and said give me something down and dirty on this guy he's got like a squeaky clean record i couldn't get anything so we'll see what we can get out of colt mccoy today colt i appreciate you coming on the show how you doing ma'am i'm doing great man i'm doing great Thanks for waiting around this afternoon for me. Well, you know, you got to have those NFL security meetings.

It's not like you've ever been to one. I think I just sat through my 14th NFL security meeting. No gambling. Yeah. Especially why you're in the building and all kinds of rules. There's so many rules now. Well, what do they say now? Like, that's an interesting one because, you know,

some guys got in trouble last year and I'm just curious, like, how they changed the meeting. Like, did they give you guys more information? because I do think some of the rules are a little cloudy, and that's how guys are getting caught up. For sure, they gave us basically six rules. They narrowed it down to six rules. But anytime you have a presentation on gambling for 30 minutes, there's a lot of information.

I'm looking around, the coaches are sitting behind me because coaches and players. I'm just trying to figure out this new offense. I'm trying to figure out how to get us all lined up, right, and run a positive play. Yep, yeah. You know, I think the big thing on the gambling stuff right now, now is obviously some guys have been popped for it, right?

Like, essentially what they want is no gambling on anything at the workplace and really in your free time during the season. In the off season, like, so they define the off season as the Hall of Fame game to the Super Bowl is the season. Outside of that, I guess technically if you wanted to gamble or place some bets at a sports book, you could do that. But I think the safe thing is what they're trying to tell us is just, you know, don't do it. A lot of the questions were like, well, what about fantasy football?

Like, you know, like, I have, I want to play fantasy football with my boys. And I guess the rule there is you can't play daily fantasy football. Like, you can't, like, buy a team for the weekend. But you can play a season long fantasy football as long as the prize is not more than $250. Oh, that's not bad. Because, you know, when I was in a league, everybody was like joining leagues, like fantasy football was catching on fire and I never got it. I bet over half our locker room plays fantasy football with like, you know, like my high school buddies. Like, whatever. Yeah. You want to, you want to play? Who's the teammate of yours of your high school buddies have really been into drafting?

Who, uh, I bet if you took a poll, like, in the locker room, I know that there's several guys who have, like, little group. I don't know that anybody's in the same, like, I don't know that anybody in our locker and is playing fantasy football against each other. But I know they're in leagues with, like, your. boys or your friends or whatever your little group is. Like, I think it's a fun thing. I mean, the fans enjoy it. It's fun. The punishments are really fun.

Like, after football, I've been in a few leagues. And one of our leagues, the loser had to be on a big billboard. Another one, loser had to bleach his hair. You know, that's the real fun. The prize is cool. But, like, really, what you're doing is you're running from last place. Yeah, it sounds like I was playing golf the other day, and there was a group of guys out there having, like, the time of their life.

there, like the group in front of me, playing up at a nice course here in Scottsdale. And I finally, like, I catch up to him after the round. Like, what are you guys doing? Oh, well, this is our pre-draft trip. I'm like, you're pre-draft. But yeah, this is our pre-draft trip to figure out, like, who's going to pick first, all that. Like, we spent the weekend up here in Scottsdale, you know.

We're going to come back, like, when fantasy football starts. I'm like, so you have a pre-draft. draft trip, a draft trip, and then you have like a celebration trip. Are you all married? Like, is your wife letting you do all this? Like, what's going on? Their wives are cool as shit, man. I cannot imagine getting a pre, a post, and a during trip. Like, it's enough just to say, hey, I'm going out to get drunk today and draft a bunch of football players 15 minutes down the road. Like, to get those trips is pretty awesome. Well, the loser, I guess, of the season before was, had a pretty precarious outfit on, you know, I think. Oh, did he?

I think the losers, like, they definitely had to pay. He might have had to pay for the whole trip. I don't know. Well, you know what? Like to get a free trip or to get a free trip, I mean, away from the family for a couple days, I might pay for a trip like that. That's okay. So we're talking about changing landscape.

I can't wait to ask you about NIL at Texas because dudes are making a ton of money there. I think you could have made some serious bank. But first, a Texas theme thing for you. we do something called layup line here which is we pick a song uh to try to uh you know get get the juices flowing and a lot of times when a guest comes on we'll find out what kind of music they like and i hear that george straight is your guy love george straight is he the number one for you all time i mean every time you somebody says george straight you just got to like you know you just got yeah a little tip of the cap it's just when i grew up like like

I grew up in a small town out in West Texas and everybody listened to 90s country and like at the time it was like George and Garth right? Like anytime a 90s country song comes on and it's like you know I wouldn't I don't know if it's like my all time favorite

but it takes me back to where I grew up and like that's what everybody listened to it was what everybody played like that's that was how Has your town been in a song in any song? You ever heard of Aaron Watson? He's like, this country guy yeah he might he lives back in my hometown like my hometown is called buffalo

gap texas there's like 400 people there okay cool well if you get a song with 400 people that's pretty good uh is there is there a 90s country song that you would like to select for our layup line would it be a george straight would it be somebody else it'd probably be it'd probably be george or garth you know like blame it all on my roots i show okay cool that's great yeah that's great my kids my kids love that song we'll roll with some garth brooks do you like anybody now or are you kind of like me where well i do like people now but i just don't like a lot of the new country i'm not i mean yeah i don't like it's not really country right it's kind of yeah kind of pop i'm with some some songs every now and then come on like yeah you know i it's good but i'm more i fall back more to like the wayland

jennings willie nelson you know that that that seems to be like country to me so do you know who my oldest child his name is waylon so you go you and me both buddy um so all right here we go some more texas stuff um you were at texas for the texas u sc game and i'm kind of like i remember there's one of those sporting events that i i'll never forget like where i was you know like the exact place i was yeah you know the time of year and everything and um it was just such a an amazing scene on tv what's something that people don't know about that game they're so okay so i basically at that time was just a hamburger eater right i'm traveling on the trip so i'm eating free hamburgers we're having good food though i've been in and out in the rosebowl stadium the day before the game like i i mean

i'm this it's my freshman year and at the time you could if if you were a red shirt you couldn't take a snap one snap you know you blow your whole red shirt year you're you play and so i was technically like the backup but trying to stay registered. So there was a couple other quarterbacks on the roster. Vince was that game was still like the best college football game, maybe the best game I've ever seen live in person. So I'm holding the clipboard. I'm marking down plays.

Like, you know, I'm running the scout team during the week and, you know, USC's got Reggie Bush and Matt Liner and all like all these like superstars. And I'm thinking to, myself like this like I just graduated from high school there's 400 people in my hometown there's more people in my dorm room my dorm room or my dorm itself has its own zip code right it's way way more people than my hometown I everything is just new to me and it doesn't hit me that oh we're 13 and oh we're going to roseball a national championship this must be normal right so I'm sitting there holding a clipboard watching the game gets down to the last minute Vince makes this Vince plays a

one of the best performances of all time. And, you know, we score, we go crazy, we win. And, like, I had this epiphany, like, I can't play this. Like, I could never do the things that Vince Young, that my eyes just watched Vince Young do. I've got to go home and, like, totally reevaluate, like, my situation. Because I'll tell you, the night before the game, we go to, like, the ESPN Studios, like, the Disney Studios,

or whatever that's right there close to the Rose Bowl, and we have like a team dinner. That's where our dinner is. And I remember Vince at the time, you know, he lost the Heisman to Reggie Bush, but he was the best player in the world, college football-wise. So he's kind of up in his own booth.

He's got media every day. He comes up, he puts his arm around me. We had a great relationship and was like, hey, man, as soon as this game's over, I'm going to the league. It's your show next year, man. You can do it. And I'm sitting there like,

okay like I kind of sleep on it that night we go to the game best performance I've ever seen and I get back on the plane you know we spend the night everybody's celebrating everybody stays up all night whatever it's fun we win the national championship you get back on the plane and go home and I'm thinking like man I don't think I can do this I mean this is great and all but if I put myself out there in that situation like I ain't ready yeah and so it really transformed my The night before that game is what really made me, like I worked hard. Like, you know, I needed to put on some weight.

I grew a couple inches. Like, I hit a growth spurt when I got to, everything worked out great for me. But I spent from that night after the game until the very next year, literally all I could think about was I can't let anybody else down. Like, we just went to the nationals. Like, I have so much work to do. And so I think it was amazing to be a part of one of the best games I've ever seen. or witnessed, but it really also kind of, you know, lit a fire under me that I got to go get ready to do this.

Now, Vince, actually, I know Vince a little bit because he climbed Kelly with us. Yes. For Waterboys, and he was awesome, man. Vince was an absolute pleasure to be around. But, you know, like, there couldn't be a bigger celebrity in the state of Texas at that point outside of Vince. and, you know, like, it soon became you. It's like whoever is playing quarterback for three, four years for that college, especially at that time.

It feels like you're probably under more pressure than you are in the league even. And you're probably, you can't walk down the street, I would imagine. You know, Arch Manning, I know Cooper a little bit. And, you know, they came here one weekend just, I think just to visit family. His sister's at UVA, it was like a formality. And I was like, well, we got a chance. But he ended up down at Texas, and right now I'm just imagining the kind of celebrity status, especially in today's game with recruiting and NIL money.

How hard was it for you to like navigate and just walk around and be normal there? Yeah. Well, I think you got to remember, like when Coach Brown was there and I started getting recruited there, Texas had won 10 games in a row for like 11 straight years. Yeah. Right? So the program was, was coach. competing and they were, you know, performing at a high level.

They were getting all the recruits they wanted. And then obviously we've had a dip over the last 12 or 13 years or whatever long it's been. I think Texas is just, they're really starving to like win 10 games again. And, you know, all of a sudden they get the number one recruit in the country, which the only other time they've ever done that, I think, was when they got Vince Young. Right. And so now, like, the expect, I mean, the expectations for him on campus, I'm sure, are crazy, right? And that's not necessarily fair to him. But the whole, like you talked about

earlier, the whole landscape of college football has changed with NIL. It's essentially one year of free agency. Right? You go, you play one year. You hit free agency. Who's going to pay me the most? I'll go there. Right. Like, it's very crazy. I don't understand it. It seems very gray to me. Like, it's not black and white anymore. I mean, I remember when I was in college, going into my senior year compliance, obviously was just like breathing down your neck all the time. All the time. all the time there's this there's this little barbecue joint in town called rudy's barbecue great barbecue it's like gas station barbecue but it's really good and anybody who comes in takes a picture with like the rudy's bottle of barbecue sauce and so i remember i walked into

rudy's they asked me to take a picture sure i paid for my meal i took a picture they put up on the wall well i almost got suspended for a half like two nights before my first game my senior year like we're number you know ranked really high expectations are high. Like, I know we're going to beat whoever we're going to play the first game, but I'm sweating bullets thinking, like, I may not get to play the first half of my senior year, of the first game of my senior year, right? That's, and now you look at, like, what's going on. It's just, it's completely different. And how much money you think, I mean, like, like, Arts is going to make a lot of money. You ever think about how much money you could have

made being at Texas? I don't know, man. They're still selling my jerseys on campus. I haven't seen any money yet. That's the time, dude. And Arch lost his ID, evidently twice in his first month on campus. Is there any advice you would give to Arch Manning about just, like, you know, locating his things or keeping it. I'd be curious to find out where he lost him. Where are you got any guesses?

Hopefully it just fell out of his pocket, like walking in a class or something. I don't think that's what it was. You were there, were you there at the same time as Kevin Durant? Yeah, same year. We came in the same. You got any KD stories from Texas? He lived, we lived on the same floor in the dorm room. No way.

Yeah, so KD came in and he was just seven feet tall and kind of lanky. And like, you know, the athletes sort of hung out, right? It's a big campus. Like, but we would see each other. You're eating the same, you know, there was one athletic dining hall at the time. Yeah. And now they got like a dozen of them or whatever. But we would all eat at the same place.

So you would see the basketball players. You'd go play like in the rest of the rest of. You know, like play pick up games and stuff. And everybody was like, who is Kevin to rent? Right. He's not from like Texas. He came from way up north. And so we kind of, we play games in the wreck.

And everybody had an idea of like, man, this guy's like, this guy's legit. And then the first, I remember the first home basketball game, our freshman year. Like we walk over to the urban center, watch the game. He drops like 40 points or something. And everybody's like, oh, this guy just scored 40. points. Right. And then obviously he's evolved and so, you know, one of the best players in the world. He's unbelievable. It was pretty cool to like, you know, have that year with them. I think we went to the Elite 8. Like, it was, it was fun. And the guy loves football. I think he's a

commander's fan. Yeah. So, yeah, he was pulling for, he was pulling for you. Yeah. It's pretty funny. It comes full circle. He came to, he came to probably, you know, a home game a year when, yeah, when I was there. Yeah. Well, he's a freak. and legend. But how about, how about Mac Brown? Are you surprised at the success he was able to, did you ever think he'd coach again after his stand at Texas? I mean, he seemed like he had done everything, had everything. Right. You know, why come back and grind like that? But he seems to love it. Right. I know I'm obviously, I feel privileged that when I was in college, I had the same coaching staff, you know, my whole time. Same office coordinator, same head coach. And obviously,

I love them, very biased about them. I had a pretty strong inclination that Coach Brown would coach again. I don't think he loved the way it ended at UT, right? After, you know, 17 years, all the things that he accomplished, the amount of games he turned the program back around. And to kind of end that way, I know that, you know, as a competitor, he's a competitor, I felt like, you know, the right opportunity, the right situation, he'd get back into it.

And I'm not surprised at all at the success he's had. North Carolina. They've been competitive and almost win in the ACC, you know, almost... Every year. Yeah, every year. Yeah, we used to beat the dog out of them and now they're like a powerhouse. Yeah, he's got a good quarterback. He had a good quarterback before. Sam Howell's now in Washington.

You know, and I think his quarterback now, Drake May, I think he's his name, is a solid player. I mean, you've got a gun slinger, like, you've got a chance. And, you know, he's found him. So when you go to Cleveland, And my big question was like, you feel all this pressure at Texas. It's because you guys are so good.

And it's like, you know, whoever gets to sit in that chair and take snaps, you are, you're inheriting this awesome opportunity. When you go to Cleveland, the quarterback situation is a jersey with 40 names taped to the back of it. And I don't know how far down that list you are if you can remember the guys around you. But it's a pretty long list. It's a long list. Yeah. And I'm wondering, like, what?

What was tougher, the pressure of being the man at Texas or being the man in Cleveland with this huge, really unrealistic task at hand? Well, I think there's a couple of things. One, when you played a home game at Texas, especially a big game and, you know, you'd have to go do media after the game. There'd be a hundred people in there. Yeah. Like cameras everywhere, you're getting questions from people all over the country, not just your local guys. Yeah. And so I think that that part handled or helped me be able to handle, you know,

some of the situations that come up in NFL. I remember after my first game in Cleveland, you know, I walk into the media room, like where you go and there was like maybe seven or eight guys, people, men and women. You know, so like that was a big difference. Now, I have the utmost respect for Cleveland, for the city, for the fans. you know, for the organization, like, I, I can keep my head high. Like, I get, I literally gave everything I had. And I know that all of my teammates did too, like, we, we wanted to win, right? We had a good mix of older guys and younger guys. There was just constant turnover above us,

right? I played for three head coaches, and I had three general managers and two owners in three years, right? So it's, it's that, you know, at the time, you don't understand that at all as a young player. But now... You just think that's how it is. Yeah, exactly. And now being, you know, going into my 14th season, and I look back on that, and I'm thankful for some of the things that I learned through that process. Um, but you realize, like, that's not really that normal. Yeah. And, and, you know, the teams that, you know, you see in the playoffs every year are teams that, you know, generally don't have much turnover. They're pretty successful year in and year out. They're pretty consistent. And, you know, I think as a player you hope to be on a team like that or go to a team that has a chance to,

you know, make runs and do things the right way. Listen, Cleveland was great for me. I learned so much. I worked hard. We were in a lot of games that we didn't win. We found ways to, like, mess it up every time. And I had good coaches there. I learned a bunch of football.

And I think it has definitely, all the experience. experiences that I learned there have helped me. Although if I could do it all over again, I mean, this league is about winning and you got to win. And I understand that. And that's, you know, I understand how, you know, I kind of got pushed out. So Daible was your, was one of your first coaches? Yeah. He was the coordinator in my first year.

Love them. It was awesome. Yeah. Easy to see why he's succeeding now, huh? Yeah. Like Coach Daibald really helped me. like understand the game like i'm coming from college i'm a rookie like i've played a bunch i got a lot of experience but like this the NFL is so different than college right there's so much more on your

plate the game is faster the windows closed faster like the protections and just everything about the position is yeah it's just harder and and coach dayball more than anything taught me about defenses in the NFL about pressures and coverages and how how they tie together, what the fronts are, like all kinds of stuff that, like, I would have never learned, right? So some of the things that I learned from dayball early on my rookie year, like I still think about as I'm playing now. Yeah. And you probably watch that kind of process with Daniel Jones, who you played with in New York momentarily. I mean, he's improved so much with having Brian. And I'm a big fan of his game. I mean, he may not be a top five guy, but, man,

He's great, he's good athletic quarterbacks don't grow on trees. I thought he had a great year last year. He was raw coming out. How raw was Daniel Jones? DJ, what people don't understand is he's way more athletic than what you think. Yeah. Right, he's big, he's strong, he's fast. Like he can make plays as his feet tough.

Like he'll stand in there like all the time. Like he's not afraid to get hit at all. Yeah. But I think he's made, he made a big jump last year, right? I think it helped him having Sequin. You know, I mean, we played in week two this year. I know that he's much improved. Yeah.

I think, you know, looking back to the Cleveland days, like, you know, one thing DJ hasn't had is like he's had a bunch of coaches too, right? He's been able to like stick in there, like keep working, figure it. And it feels like, like, okay, he's like, like. He got a good contract. He's got a good coach. Like, he's in a good place. Like, I'm really, really happy for him.

I think in Cleveland, like, you know, turnover is hard. Like, learning new, I learned five systems my first five years. Yeah. Right? So, like, that's always, and guys have done it. And there's been a lot of quarterbacks better than me who didn't do it. Right? It's just a matter of, like, where you fall into all of this.

And so, but DJ is. And he was fun to be, we're really close. He can make all the throws. I think his feet just, like, allow him to, like, he's going to get two or three first downs with his legs every game, and that just crushes defense. Oh, totally, totally. And I can empathize with the coaches thing. You know, in St. Louis, we had about five or six defenses in my eight years there.

It felt like. And so I know it's got to be even harder on a quarterback. what do you think with Daniel Jones getting paid was the first thing that he bought? He doesn't seem like a guy that spends a lot of money. What is Daniel Jones into? Give us a look into Daniel Jones, the human being. I texted him, I said, like, did you buy a couch? Or, like, what did you get for your apartment?

You know? But, man, like, DJ is, he's great. Like, guys love him. I love playing, you know, alongside. of them like um it was a it was a fun that was the COVID year that I was there so like you know you technically weren't supposed to be in the same room at any point but like you know we we just figured out how to like we're playing football if you're going to allow us to go out there and play football we got to prepare it we got to talk we got to we got to understand like what we're we got

to be on the same page so we spent a spend a ton of time together and and I'm very happy for him but he's got no hobbies that you know of he tries to play golf he tries to play golf I think. He tries to play golf. Yeah. Well, that makes sense. He's just, he's just down to earth, very humble. Just, you just, you, you can't not like a guy like that.

No, he seems great. And then another quarterback I wanted to ask you about was Brandon Whedon, because when he was a rookie, he was older than you. And, uh, and he was older than probably 50% of the team. Yeah. And I'm curious, did y'all make him do like rookie dinners and shit like that? Right. Plus, he already had a bunch of money, right? Because he played in the bigs. Exactly. So how do you guys treat a guy like that?

Right. No, he, Brandon was great. And what I learned at that point was like, okay, you know, first time in my career, like, you know, I've been playing here for two years. I want to play, right? Yeah. But you draft a guy in first round, like, I learned real quick, you draft a guy in the first round, like they're going to, they're going to get every chance. They're going to play. Like it's just it is what it. Plus he's a little bit older. So I think that was a hard season for me. But at the same time, like there's nothing worse than a bad quarterback room, right? Like having like some like just not camaraderie and like working together and like it's that just that the quarterback room trickles down to the whole organization. Right.

So you want to have just a very structured, very sound like. protective sort of like room and and you know I feel like I was able to do that even though you want to play like let's figure this all out because you know the ultimate goal is team over you and you want to win games and yeah um I think that Brandon got put into a situation kind of like I was in for a couple of years like it just there was turnover there was new coaches there was new systems and it just this just how it was yeah it's the Cleveland factory You know, like with you being at times in your career, a backup quarterback, at times a starter, like, are those two different social roles on a team? And how do you, how do you, like everybody I talk to loves you, man, like, how do I, if I'm Colt McCoy, how do I be cognizant of not being as popular or liked as the starting quarterback?

Yeah, I mean, listen, we all want to play. There's only one guy's going to try it out there on Sundays, right? there's only 32, two guys to get to go out there and do it, right? And so I certainly don't take it lightly the fact that, you know, the times I get to go out there and do it because that's, that's what we all want to do. But at the same time, like, man, like you're a team player, right? I said it earlier, and Jonathan Gannon, like, that's one of the things he preaches.

It's, like, team over you. And he's right. Like, we all have to take on certain roles. Like, you know, some of the roles I've been in for my career is, like, I've got to be ready the moment that something happens to the start or step on the field and go win the game. It's not going there and like fill in. It's not going there and like make a few. No, it's going there and win the game, right?

So what do I have to do on a week to week basis to make sure that I'm ready to do that? Right. I remember last year like Kyler battled some injuries early in the season I played and then, you know, he comes back and like I threw some seeds in my mouth or playing the Patriots on Monday Night Football. I kind of get situated, like kind of on the edge of the, you know, I like to look at the game from the side and from behind so I can see coverage. And I'm like bending over and all of a sudden, boom, he goes down, third play the game. And you're like, okay, well, like, this is so unfortunate for him, but I've prepared for this. Like, this is what I studied all week long for. This is why I stayed up at the building until 8 o'clock, you know, on Friday night, just so I understand, like, our third down package and their third down package and what pressures they're going.

You know, right? And we ended up losing that game, but we, you know, we felt like we should have won. Yeah. And so I just think for me, being in a lot of different rooms and a lot of different situations, I've learned that it's the team first. And when you approach it that way, like there's no sulking, there's no pouting. It's like, no, like, today I'm going to help the offensive lines. Today I'm going to help the receivers. Today I'm going to talk to the DBs about their technique and their leverages and why they're playing that on this situation. Today I'm going to talk to the coaches and figure out, like, I think we need a better third down package. Like, there's just, there's so much that goes into it, and it's so hard to win in the NFL. Yeah.

And if your starter and if your backup aren't on the same page, it's almost impossible. Well, I heard a story about a time that you and Kirk were not on the same page because you threw parties at the same time. Is that a true story? And how do you navigate when both quarterbacks are throwing parties the same night? I think that was just, I think that was just a lack of communication. Let's just chalk it up to that. You guys threw a party at the same night. That's too good.

That's too good. Okay. We need to be better. That's a, that's a, that's a bogey right there. That's a bogey for sure. A mulligan, you get that one back. My last question about Cleveland, man, the Peyton Hillis year was you had to be there, man. And it's just people today don't remember him.

He took over the league. He got on the Madden cover. And he kind of disappeared, but he had this great moment that some guys just never get in the NFL. And I wonder if you could speak to that. And also, how's he doing now? Because the last time he was in the news, he was in some trouble, you know, had an accident at the beach. And it was scary there for a second. So how's he doing?

And what was it like playing with Peyton? Yeah, it sounds like that. that was very traumatic. Like, sounds like he's happy to be alive. And, you know, that's a scary situation, right? Like,

your daughter's out there or your son, your niece, like, whoever, like, that's, I mean, as a dad, you know, I've got four kids. You don't ever want to put yourself in that situation.

That's scary. So I'm just so thankful that, like, he's all right and he's recovered and his kids are all right. Like, that's scary. What? Payton was my,

like, roommate, um, that, season he went crazy like back in the day you had to have a roommate during training camp you understand yeah i remember hotel or whatever so like asked me if you would have asked me then like is Peyton hillis going to be on the cover of madden and like go crazy this year i would have been like i don't i mean maybe i don't know like he was the punt returner in denver right he was the backup to

darry macfadden and all those guys at arkansas like and he he showed up to training camp and like like just on a mission, right? He wore that face mask and everybody kind of like nobody else ever had, kind of like the little ring on front of the, like, looked kind of scary, he wore a big number 40, like, and then he started running downhill.

Like, we started calling like gap schemes and like, you know, sort of defined like downhill runs. And bro, he, he went crazy. And then,

you know, for me, like he could catch, right? He was a punt returner. He was like a third down. back in Denver the year before. Like, he had, he could catch the ball.

And so a lot of his yards were like, we would go empty and like, who's covering him, right? And he just, week after week after week. And then, you know, like you said, I don't know exactly what happened, what didn't happen, you know, what all ended up in Cleveland. But that year, like, he took over that town and our team and, like, he touched the ball 20 times a game at least it was crazy i'd never seen anything like that on the front end of it and on the back end of it um i mean you know running backs you never know one year

the next year but that guy that year was he was the king dude um and then you you got to see another one year kind of thing i mean it wasn't a one year thing for adrian peterson because he's an all-time great but i don't think anybody expect him to have that year he had in washington what was that like well from what I remember he comes in for a visit and I don't think that they were planning on signing him I think they were like he was they were going to come in work him out kind of see where he's at and like he shows up and he puts a big giant dip in his mouth and he crushes the work out and then he won't leave and he's like no I'm I'm going to I'm playing right and so like we kind of sign them and then like we go to walk through the next day and it's just full speed

I mean, just full speed. I had played against him in college, right? When he was in Oklahoma, I was a freshman. We ended up beating him somehow. I mean, I remember watching him, like, in warm-ups thinking, like, this is the crazy. Like, this guy is unbelievable, right? Yeah.

He took, like, a screen, and he got on the sidelines, and he started, like, moving his head. Bobbing his head. Yeah, like, good luck stopping him. So it was cool to, like, you know, 10 years later, like, play with him in the NFL and hand him off, do it. That's all he wanted. He's like, just call duo, just call duo, which is like the double teams up front and just

let him find a gap and go. Yeah, he also has one of the hardest handshakes in the history of mankind. Of all time. He'll crush your hand if you're not ready. I was not ready for it the first time I met him and had to put ice on my hand back in the hotel. I mean, it was. No question. It was insane, dude.

And that's how he takes the ball. You stick the ball out, like, okay, you're running like inside zone. I mean, it is like, you better be ready for your arm to get like chopped off. Yeah, dude, that's a contact sport right there. That's unbelievable. But he was great, man. You want to talk about a guy who just, he would practice hard all week, and then he played hard on Sunday,

and then he's ready to go again on Monday, like late in his career like that. It was very impressive. And he practiced a lot. I mean, he didn't take too many days. That's crazy at that age. So here's the question. Would you guys have won more in Washington if you played a real NFL stadium?

I mean, is it as bad for the opposing team coming into the game as it is for us as the home team? It is. This is funny. It's like talking to somebody on the other side of the wall. Yeah, it's bad over here too, Colt. The shit is fucked up over here. And if you look at what the fans have to deal with, it's not real great there either. How bad was it for you guys?

I mean, dude, I mean. The state of you're in now is state of the art. Oh, yeah. Our stadium out here is amazing. You know, indoors on grass. Yeah. I think every... I'm not going to knock it that bad because I'm a big fan of grass fields. I think everybody should have grass. Me too. As I'm getting older, like playing on turf fields, like going up to Seattle or like any of these places. Like, dude, I'm, I can't, I mean, it's crazy how bad how worse you feel for two or three days after the game. Well, it's like we're hitting you on to concrete.

I'm just thinking about you, like at least in the AFC North, when James Harrison and those guys were just tattooing you early in your career, it was on grass, like thick, slow grass. You play on grass. I just feel like there's, it's like your joints and your ankles and your knees and your, like it doesn't hurt. I don't, I have not as, like, I can't, an engineer or scientist's where I can't prove why it's like that. But all I know is like based on how I feel after games, playing on. turf or playing on grass. It's not even close. No, I know. So FedEx, FedEx has grass, which is nice.

Yeah, that's the one plus there, yeah. And, you know, Landover is not a lot of traffic. So well, okay, so you talked about Davey earlier. You run into McVeigh in Washington. Obviously, the rest of his career has just been

storybook stuff. What separates him as an offensive mind? Yeah, so Sean and I got to be real close in Washington. He started as the quarterbacks coach. Then he started calling plays and then he gets the LA job when he turns 30. He and I are the same age. We're like five months apart, I think. So we spend a ton of time together. Sean is just like, the people that got him to where he's at, I think are just super respected and know their track record speaks for itself. Jay Gruden, the Shanahan's,

John Gruden, like the guys that were in his ear and who he learned from, like really just set the stage for him. But then he took it to a whole other level. Like he sees the game. Some of the best games I've played in NFL are games that he's called. He'll call plays from the sidelines. And like, we'll go back and without even looking at the iPad or whatever we have, the tablet on the side, like he'll spit out every coverage,

every front like what did I see why didn't I throw it here like and he's seeing all that from the sidelines I mean I've I've been a backup for several years and I try to like see things it's so hard to see things from the sidelines it's impossible so I just think that that the way he was trained and brought up and then and then what he turned it he's super smart like yeah understands like everything about the defense the leverages the techniques the soft spots in those in zones like it's you know run game and past game it's not one you know then he then he adds in the play actions and the keepers like everything in his system looks the same to the defense right and then you don't know what to do right yeah I mean he he literally

toys with defensive ends like he slows us down yeah yeah yeah you can't just like put your hand in the dirt and rush the quarterback like he's never going to let you do that and then you know after Sean like I was able to learn a bunch I was there for seven years from from Jay and from Kevin O'Connell. Yep, head coached. I just feel, I feel so, you know, privileged to, like, play for those guys because they helped me so much. You know, we talked earlier, like, I'd venture to say there's, you know, plenty of

quarterbacks who were more talented than me or better than me that, you know, just got themselves in some situations. And, you know, if you don't win in the NFL, I just kind of choose you up and spit you out. And, you know, I got to go to Washington and be that. for seven years and I started at times and was just well coached. Yeah. And I think if you are a Washington fan, like you got to respect like some of the guys that came through the building there. Like it's been look what they're doing now. Like it's been in front of the Shanahan's, McVeigh, Kevin. Like you like a lot of the guys who were, you know, position coaches are

now coordinators in different places. And I think just having those years, like after Cleveland just really really like helped me find my confidence and figure out like oh yeah yeah like I understand like this fits me like I feel good in this system I can play no question and what lastly in Washington would you learn from Will Compton how to start a podcast yeah yeah he's done a pretty good job at it did you did you imagine that Will would have such a successful following? I didn't know, like, what, you know, he always talked about, like, I'm going to, I'm going to do a podcast or, like, I'm, he was the one person in the locker room that was able to walk

up and talk to anybody and start up a conversation and, like, maybe pick at him a little bit, maybe get him out of their company. Like, he just has that, that personality to really be able to relate to almost anybody. Yeah. So it turned into, like, he was, like, the team mascot for a couple years. So I'm not shocked that, like, that he goes out and, like, you know, he's crushing his own podcast and,

and, you know, doing it big. Like, yeah, they've got, they're doing a lot of good stuff. Well,

is the man. Okay, so you're in Arizona now. John Gannon, I know him from Philly. Great guy. Hell of a coach. You got to be excited about all the verticals,

the shots. Have you given him shit about that clip yet? Beo, boo, do you, do you, do you, do you,

do it? John. I just saw, I saw a video like you. Like, I, I think what I love about Coach Gannon is, like, he brings energy, uh, every day, right? Yeah. And the staff that he hired, you know, you can say what you want. They're all young. Like, a lot of them haven't, you know, been in coordinated positions or called plays or whatever, but they're all, you know, excited to be here. They bring a lot of juice. You know, they have an answer every time I ask a question. Like, you know, It's a fun, it's a fun staff for sure. Yeah.

What's the difference between playing for a defensive head coach and an offensive head coach? Because you've had both, you know, the way it structures and trickles down to the players. Yeah. You know, there seems to be tons of conversation about that, right? What's better? Like, can you develop quarterbacks if you got a defensive head coach? Like, I think, I think Coach Gannon has been great, right? Like, I think that you got to sit through a couple team meetings where we're talking about, you know,

robber inside and robber outside and robber drop and i'm like it mean okay like but you know for the most part um i think that he he really has done a good job of of like setting the expectations early like from day one right here here's who i want us to become here's how we're going to get there now let's let's let's start implementing all these things and have a great camp so we've only been with them for nine weeks, right? But I feel like as a team, you know, outside of this building, right? Nobody really knows what's going on. There's some storylines out there about like, oh, we, you know, who, what are Arizona Cardinals going to do this year, right? Like, you know, you cut your star receiver or whatever. There's just, there's a lot of questions. But I think for, for what we've been able to accomplish

over these nine weeks in the summer has, has been, has been a lot, right? Like, you know, and, and, And the one thing that I respect about Coach Gannon and Monty and sort of, you know, the whole front office is different too, right? They've come in here and like just said, we're going to evaluate everybody. Here's our expectations. Here's what we want to do. Here's the team that we want to be. Here's our philosophy on offense and defense.

Like nothing's really a secret right now. It's all like right there. And how about, you know, JJ Watts' retirement? because, you know, I was kind of surprised by it. He was still playing at a high level. Was that something guys in the locker room saw coming? Or, you know, was that kind of last month of the season thing where we started learning about it?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I got to be pretty close with JJ over the last two years, right? You know, kind of these, your older guys kind of flocked together, right? Future podcaster, JJ. Yeah, that's right. I just talked to him the other day. So he's getting ready to start, you know, getting in the media. Yeah, he's got his hands.

all kinds of, you know, with the, with the soccer team and all that. But I think, you know, one of the conversations I had with JJ without putting all his, you know, life out there is, like, I know that he was writing him letters, like, himself later in the season about, like, how his body felt. Like, like, I will not do this next year. I will not put myself in it, like, and so I thought that that was, that was my indication of, like, wow, he's really taking this seriously. and I probably was one of the few, maybe the only one who was like, yeah, but you're going to, you'll come back and play. Yeah, yeah. And he would look me dead in the eyes and be like, nope, I'm not.

I'm telling you, I'm not. Like, NFL has been amazing to me. It's provided me with so many things. I'm not, I just can't put my body through this again. And, you know, sure enough, he stuck to it. And I thought the way it ended in San Francisco, like the, you know, you're on the road. the division, they're probably going to go to the Super Bowl. We're not making the playoffs, and he gets, he gets, makes a sack and they give him, you know,

we pull him out of the game and they give him a standing ovation. Like, that's, that's, you know, sort of, that's one of the coolest things I've seen, right? That's a great way to go out, man. Yeah, like that's not going to happen for, for most people. No, and it's good to go, it's good to go out playing at a high level, and that's what he did. I mean, you know, and he's able to read those letters and say, hey, I don't want to feel like this next year. So with Kyler, what's your job when it comes to like, you know, he's taking some shit the last year.

You know, there are bumps in the road. There are injuries. There's in today's game, you know, like there's a lot of rumors and that sort of thing. You are a guy who's been around and I feel like anybody you're around, you're going to have a positive effect on. What is your very unique role with Kyler? Not just getting him ready to play, but like getting him ready to embark on this journey where he gets back on a heater. Yeah, right, which I think we, at least I know that he can. Like, he can do some things that nobody else can do, right?

And, you know, you talk about, you know, when I think about playing the quarterback position and like if I'm going to evaluate somebody, like the number one thing I'm going to put on the chart is accuracy. Yeah. Right. And like, Kyler's accuracy is insane. Yeah. Especially being a shorter guy. Like it's impressive height throws a ball over the middle.

It's impressive height. puts the ball outside. Like he, like, he can, he can do it all. Um, you know, now he's coming off injury. I think the challenge for, uh, for us, for like our quarterback room, you know, for, for me even is, hey, okay, this is an entirely new system. This is like from, from square one. Like, yeah, the philosophies are like, it's all laid laid out there. It's different. Like, this is different than what we did. Like how, like, what's the best way to learn this, right? Kyler, You know, we've been in the same system. He's been in it for three years.

I was in it for two years. Yeah. And so I think, you know, when you're coming off a knee and you're spending a lot of time in the training room and you're working now, you're trying to strengthen you're trying to get back out on the field. Like, as important as all that is like sitting in the meeting rooms and understanding even the little things like cadence or, you know, like what we, like who's the read, you know, which side of the field we work. just things that like you know getting those reps are almost invaluable so how do you how do you somehow try to like get as much as you can without actually taking the ball right yeah yeah and i think he's done he's he's he's done a really good job i think the coaches have done a really good job but i think for us in the room it's just communicating talking hey like i had a conversation

with him today like hey like here's one of the one of the one of the footwork things they're asking us to do that like has been hard for me right i've been doing it one way for almost 20 years and now we're you know now we're flipping our feet and like trying to play it a little bit different i was like whenever you get out on the field like you need to call me because this is this is probably the most different thing that we're doing than than what we're used to that's going to be hard to like understand yeah so just just things like that i mean he's obviously like I've never gone through an ACL. I've had some, you know, a pretty significant injury. And like, you know those dark spots you get into. You know, like, those days where you're just like,

like, I'm plateaued. I'm not feeling any better. Like, I think that he's handled all of that, like, really well. Yeah. Well, I'm rooting for you guys. And I'm excited about the Paris Johnson kid. He looks like a beast. He looks like he's a super athlete. So a little more protection on the way for you there, a big dog and I hope you'll come join us on the show again after a big win or two this year. That'd be awesome. Certainly enjoyed catching up with you. Uptmost respect, dude. Love watching you, love playing against you, and I just hear the best things from your boys.

So keep being you and we'll be pulling for you. I appreciate it, dude. I had fun. This was great. Yeah, man. Yeah, that'd be fun. We'll get a couple wins under our belt and I'll back on. Come on back, brother.

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We talked about him the other day because he was in Dubai. Now he's being kicked out of the arena football league that he's in, that he owns the Albany Empire because of miss payments. Okay, I just want to take you through a timeline here. And by the way, part of this is over like a $1,000 fine. Okay, like he wouldn't pay a $1,000 fine. And the NAL getting in bed with him, this is kind of like, it's not a victimless crime because there are victims,

but when it comes to like looking at this objectively, like I don't feel bad for the NAL. I feel bad for the players, but like, you know, maybe replace him with Charles Ponzi or Billy McFarlane from Firefest. You know, like these are the types of people, if you did a tier list of worst businessmen, most erratic human beings on the planet, Antonio Brown is an S-tier, like, bad businessman. So I don't feel bad for them. But if you look back at this whole thing, okay, people blame Vantes Burfick for this, because, because anytime an NFL player acts like a fucking, you know, a we all have CTE. But I blame Juju, Smith Schuster.

I think this is an ego death that happened in real time. And we're seeing the results of this because remember that year, it's never been the same. People say it's never been the same since Vontes hit him. It's never been the same since Juju showed up and became the number one target for a year. That year ended with him basically leaving the Steelers. Mike Tomlin suspending him for arguing with Big Ben. You know, people calling Mike Tomlin a moron, people calling Big Ben a moron. So we chose him over Big Ben and worse yet, Mike Tomlin.

Then he almost gets traded to Buffalo. How about Josh Allen avoiding that fucking that landmine there? And this is when Buffalo wasn't good yet. Who knows? There might not be a Josh Allen as we know it today if they pick up Antonio Brown. He ended up in Oakland. Remember the frostbite thing? Remember the helmet thing?

Remember Crackergate? Okay. everybody chose AB over Mike Mayock. Okay, New England. He went off, got released because he was intimidating somebody. He was suspected of sexually assaulting. Let's choose A.B. over the woman. Super Bowl.

They win the Super Bowl in 2021 with the buck. So, you know, even a blind squirrel finds the acorn every once in a while. And then you have 2021. He walks off. He's no longer a buck. It's Bruce Ariens fault. Now he's pulling his rope out left and right He's shitting on the Brady's who basically took him in

And now he's fucking over guys in Albany who are making like You know, uh, wahwa money to play a dangerous sport And um you know he's fucking their girlfriends He's self snitching the guy's totally unraveled I mean like the guy has done nothing but leave chaos And uh and and discord in his wake And people are still fans of this guy Some people are still fans of this guy.

What's it going to take? The takeaway for me was that it's the NAL. Yeah. Believe in our day it was the Arena Football League, AFL. Is this just a rebranding or is there, are there two Arena Football League? Don't know.

There's been a million by my count. I believe it's a new league that plays in arenas. That's another thing. That's like rolling the dice on AB, rolling the dice on starting a new league. Dwayne Johnson's losing money on the XFL. This stuff is not going to work. counterpoint. Now I know about the NAL. Yeah, it's true. It's true. Maybe the kids, the, excuse me, the players in Albany get picked up by the other squads because, hey, we saw the Antonio Brown IG, you know? Like a Sarah McLaughlin situation, and it's like all the players like getting in their cars going nowhere. Yep. Because their season got canceled in the arms of the Angels, in the arms of the, I don't know, Rochester Rough riders.

He's moving markets. I thought y'all were saying N-I-L all morning. No, N-A-L. Yeah. Is that it? Is that your takeaway? I just fucking, I can't stand it, man. I can't stand it.

I mean, just call a bad guy a bad guy. An interesting one for me is going to be. This guy's a Hall of Famer. Okay, like, I don't know if he's first ballot or what, but like the guy is undeniably one of the greatest receivers that played the game in the modern. era, a passing era, when these guys are otherworldly good. And he's going to probably get inducted to the Hall of Fame. Like, I can't think of a guy that got inducted to the Hall of Fame that was

embroiled in more bullshit, probably at the time that he got inducted. If I'm looking ahead, five, seven, ten years, I don't know what the writers are going to hold, you know, look what they did to T.O. What are they going to do to A-B? I mean, not even comparing the two. But, like, will he even be fit to give his speech? Like, what? I was just saying what is that. What's that circus going to look like? Yeah. What will the speech be?

Antonio, we're going to record yours for televised. Yes. Yes. Yes. I mean, it's just, it's crazy. So, yeah, I don't know. I feel bad for those guys.

Bob Huggins was arrested this weekend, DUI. Apparently, beer cans all over the car, not the first time in the last couple months that Huggie Bear has gotten to some trouble. And it looks like he's, out in West Virginia now. He has like the quintessential drinking face. I mean like, you know, like

red-faced looking dude that he blew a point 2-0, or 0.210 BAC, which put most people in the hospital. Well, and he's probably pushing 270. I mean, it's hard to get to point 2.1 when you got that much to fill up.

Yes. I mean, he didn't know what city he was in. Evidently, they asked him where he was. He thought he was in Columbus. Simple mix up, 185 miles away. He gave him a Burger King receipt from 28 miles away seven hours ago to try to triangulate where the guy was. Taylor Swift is playing a mile away. Yeah.

Can you imagine that soundtrack going on in the background? Yeah, you can hear Swiftie, and he's the cops have him on the hood of the car. Sir, how'd your tire get shredded? Pass. More like Bob Chuggins. You got it. You know, because that's a lot of alcohol. A lot of alcohol.

He doesn't even use a seat at basketball games. He has that stupid stool that they bring out for him. You know, it's funny. Like a week ago, I like Bob Huggins. Even though he's got this resume. I barely got to like him. I mean, he's a homophobic, the whole thing. But this guy, and we just talked about it with A-B,

it's like, you know, like balancing your admiration you have for somebody in sport and out of sport. But like this guy has had a checkered pass. He had D-Y. Bad things. Yeah, he's done bad things. He's done irresponsible things. And, you know, it's, you know, they even put him on a one-year deal.

I think West Virginia comes out looking terrible. So, like, after he used the homophobic slur, they basically reduced his salary by a million dollars, which, like, benefited them and kind of swept it under the rug. Meanwhile, you're saying they should have paid him more. They should have given him a raise after he. They maybe should have fired him at that point. Yeah. But then, like,

Like, they had to be aware of this level of alcoholism. Yeah, you don't just decide one night that you're going to get in the car and blow up 0.210. That's like an alcoholic behavior. Well, his whole origin story is that came from a town that had two stoplights and nine bars. And no speed traps. Right. You know, so anyways, I don't know. One of the greatest coaches in the history of college basketball.

No. But, like, that is a wild story. You want to know the four D1 places he coached? I know them in my head pictures. I know two of them. Sensey, West Vah, K-State with Michael Beasley. Uh-huh, K-State.

In Akron's where he got us. I didn't remember Akron. Nice. I want to know it was on that Burger King receipt. Yeah, what did he order? Fly on the wall. Yeah, I don't know. Beer?

They don't know. Yeah. I was told I could have it my way. I wonder how many beer cans were on the floor of the car when he went through the drive-thru. Over under 30. You think that was the start? I'm wondering if that was the start of the drinking.

and then, I don't know. But he probably had to have a good start. You got more bad news for me, more character issues in the NFL. Patriots Jack Jones. Yeah, more trouble with the law. He was arrested at the airport with a long list of firearm. Loaded. Yeah, loaded and a high-capacity quick-firing magazine.

Yeah, man. This is the guy that a month ago took to Twitter to chastise John Morant for his decision making and implored him to like fix it. Okay? Like Jack Jones, you got to fix it, man. I mean, and I'm saying this is a fan of Jack Jones. Like, I love watching Jack Jones play football.

I think this was one of Bill's best picks on the defensive side of the ball in a few years and he stole him in the fourth round because the guy stuck up a Panda Express. This isn't his first, yeah, it's not his first running. So like, you know, allow me for a second. to be Jack Jones and him to be John Morant, like fucking figure it out, buddy.

Like, you could be a force in this league. I mean, still on his rookie deal. It also kind of brings to light the fact that, like, when you think about Bill, you think about unbending standard for greatness, like in the classroom, on the field, out in the community. Like, you think about the Patriot way.

But he does take chances on guys. He takes chances on guys. has rules, you know, that are different for certain players than he has for other players. You know, like, this is another one of those guys that, you know, he's taking a chance on, and it hasn't worked. It's almost 10 years a day that they were searching Aaron Hernandez's house. Okay, so, like, this isn't the first guy in New England. And I'm not saying New England's a bad character place, but I'm saying, like, it's not this

moral high ground that people are perfect. And, you know, like, from a football standpoint, they're probably going to be a, okay, even though he's a great player. You know, they drafted Christian Gonzalez. They got Jonathan Jones. At first when I read the headline, I was like, Jonathan Jones with two loaded guns at the airport? No, it's another one of the Joneses. They got Jonathan Jones.

They have another Jones kid, Marcus Jones, who's the nickel. And, you know, Gibrio Pepper's has earned some praise from Bill. So I think they'll be okay if Jack's suspended. but the kid could be really good. Figure it the fuck out, buddy. And maybe part of why they drafted Christian Gonzalez. I mean, you know, I'm not saying, you know, he wasn't a hell of a player available there anyways.

It fits the bill of what Belichick likes. But, you know, last year, late in the season, he was evidently, according to Albert Breer, suspended for not showing up to treatment and then arguing with Bill. evidently the argument was bad enough that he had to suspend him so figure it the fuck out jack jones please please for everybody's sake NBA we had a big trade over the weekend the phoenix sons now have four super max i think guys on their payroll with the bradley beale trade yeah they also have the uh sons

and four guy on their bench now as well because they don't have a bench yeah that's true that's good cowboy yeah that's good no they have five players under contract for $170 million in payroll, which is over the luxury tax. But for me, it's not about what the sons did. The Wizards are the most poverty franchise in professional sports. You think.

Earlier we were talking about it, maybe being Green Bay, and I was like, Washington Wizards maybe. Like, they could have traded Bradley Beale a year and a half ago for four first-round picks, three pick swaps, and maybe something else. And they just traded him for nothing.

They just got rid of this contract. Well, also, he got the bag in Washington. And then was like, yeah, I think it's time for me to go win. They gave him a max contract when they were competing against nobody else for his services. And for some reason, decided to give him a no trade clause. Yeah, and then he waived it to go play with Katie and Devin Boker. Yeah, because he's like, hey, I'm only going to go there. Yeah.

You can't trade me anywhere else. Yeah. Good luck having trade leverage when your guy has no, has a no trade clause. And it actually made me think of an interesting corollary. I listened to a lot of basketball podcasts. and anytime you start hearing GMs pop up on those basketball podcasts a lot, they're starting to try to save their job. The Washington Wizards.

That's interesting. GM was all over the low post podcast the last two years and now he's gone. My question would be, does this change the outcome of a Nugget series? Because I feel like there's definitely like, you know, the Super Team thing, okay, but you know who you have to beat now and the Nuggets aren't the only power in the West?

Like, would that series have changed? The guys that they traded away didn't show up at the end of that series. I think it would have changed it. Phoenix won two games. I think would Beale they're better. What they should do is trade DeAndre Aiton for, like, multiple players so that they actually have a complete roster. He's all I hear about is complaining with him.

Yeah. Not from him, but from the fans. Yeah. Okay. We've got a viral question. This has been circulating online. What do people pretend that they like that they don't actually like? We got to red light some activities here.

Pools. Nah, bro. Pools. Okay. So they're filthy for one. The food is bad. You go to the snack bar. Like, oh, my God.

The chicken fingers and french fries are coming out? Gross. You're cold. Your body is lousy looking and you got to take your shirt off. You're getting sunburned. Ever heard of skin cancer? This is why people get mad at you. Kids running around every.

You don't like pools. No, no, no. I hate pools. Okay. Can't stand pools. And I don't think you people like pools either. I'm not talking about no private pool, okay? I'm talking about a public pool at a private country club.

So, and then like the most exciting part where, you know, I can stop thinking about myself for a second is when the two-year-old is jumping off the side into the water and she's having a good time. I'm like, oh, this is cool. But then half that time I'm worrying about her jumping far enough out and not clipping her legs on the side of the thing and having a bad time. It's all a bad time at the pool. Yeah. Pools. Can I interest you in rivers? I was going to say the same thing.

Bring your own food. Whatever food you want. You want to jump in the water, wherever you want to jump. You want a pee in the water. Pee in the water. You want a poop in the water. The water's moving. So you're not going to catch up to the pee. Yeah. Not bad. I do like an ocean because, you know, there are no walls. Did you see the video from Egypt? No concrete walls. The shark? Yeah. Heard about it. You didn't watch it. shark seemed interested in eating him.

Like, you know, there's all this shark branding where it's like, oh, they don't like people, they don't want to eat people. This shark turned the guy upside down and attacked him for like 35 seconds. Is he dead? Oh, he's dead. Ocean. I'm out on the ocean. Maybe that's part of my list.

There you go. Red Light the Ocean. Yeah. There was a Netflix crew that got attacked by sharks. They were filming Great White sharks, and they got, they got attacked. I think they're good, but yeah, dude, ocean. There's some dads in this pool I go to that are riptides. Lippin there, kids like crazy. Yeah.

It's dangerous. Yeah. Okay, pools. All right, marriage. Over the last 50 years, the marriage rate has declined by 60%. And part of that can be chalked up to individualism associated with post-modernism, of course. Yes.

But also the whole marriage thing. You know, I don't think people really like it as much they say they do. I really like it personally. But I think a lot of people are pretending they like it because they're afraid of their wives. You know, or they want to fit in. You don't want to be the single guy, you know, at like 50. You notice I didn't say like 37.

But like you don't want to be that guy. Weddings. Another thing I've talked about weddings. I'm going to a wedding this week. Oh, love weddings. I like weddings. this week because it's my friend Tom, who I'm really excited about him getting married. But a lot of weddings I'm not that into. And they cost a lot of money. And they create drama. I remember I had

groomsmen and I had ushers and it was basically like throwing darts at a board. Like who's going to be a groomsman, who's going to be an usher? How do I decide between my sixth best friend and my seventh best friend? I don't rank things like that. And I have some friendships that were... I do. I do. I rank my friendships. I had no grooms me. Well, it was bad this week because I was at my buddy's bachelor party and, you know, we're nearing a week out from the wedding and I had no idea if I was in the wedding party. So how do you get that information? You don't call your buddy and be like, hey, I forgot if you made me a groomsman or not. You call a friend and you say like, hey, what are you wearing to the wedding?

Somebody that's in the, because I had to figure out if I had to wear like a, I was supposed to go to men's warehouse or something. I kind of missed that. Did you think you might have been? Like, did you... I thought I might have been. And you searched text, nothing in text? Nothing in text. I called my buddy.

I was like, what are you guys going to be wearing? What are you guys going to be wearing? And he was like, oh, I'm wearing some pimp shit. It's Charleston. I'm wearing whatever I want. And I was like, oh, that's cool. What should I wear? You know, and he's like, you know, fucking whatever you want.

Pimp shit. So, yeah, so I was like, you know, good. But yeah, wedding's overrated. Stuff like this. I shouldn't be stressing out about this. But are you sure you're not in the wedding party? I'm positive. There's no wedding party, much like yours.

Yeah, okay. Yeah, weddings over marriage. People don't like it. They pretend they do. I think weddings might be kind of sweet, though. Books. How about books? That's a great answer.

How about books? Around the pandemic, everybody started having Zoom backgrounds. Oh, I read. 60% of Americans, this is from the Atlantic. I read this article. Lie about books that they haven't read. Yeah. It's insane.

I've read a book this year. That's cool. Good for you. I actually really liked it. It was a nice experience. I am the king of knowing the first chapter of almost every book I've ever read. You're LeBron. Yeah, pretty much.

But yeah, no, I'm not saying literacy is bad. I actually have literacy programs in my foundation, but it's like the adults that ruin it. You know, my kid's not going to lie about reading Good Night Moon, but people lie about reading Catcher in the Rye. F1. That's a good one. F1.

Okay. The thing about F1 is, like, I didn't even know people liked it until crypto started coming out. And if you'll notice, the crypto bros and F1 fans, like the Venn diagram is a circle. And, you know, if you look at F1, the leaders always, Matt pointed this out, minus 350 to win. Because there's no drama. Red Bull wins everything. And much like FIFA, the way it elevated, you know, soccer's American fandom. I think that Netflix thing.

Like everybody, whenever you're like, why do you like F1, buddy, the guy's like, you just have to watch the Netflix, but it's special.

And I'm like, no, I'm not, you know, because I don't want to have to pretend like I like F1, too. Now, I'll give you something

people pretend they don't like, Nickelback. Oh. Yep. If I played Nickelback. No, we really don't like that. No, sorry, Creed,

Creed, is a better one. I really do believe this, Creed, like, people, people, if they,

if Creed wasn't analogous with some, like big pop culture failure or like some bad phase like if i walked out with arms wide open if i walked out on the street and played my own prison to a bunch of babies they would be like this great great music or like some homeless guy hey like have you ever heard of this band no let me check him out uh with arms wide open higher this is fucking great dude it is really like creed is decent music. It is relentlessly decent. The only thing

people know Creed from is their Thanksgiving performance. That's about it. I love that YouTube video. Yeah. So I think Creed... I don't know much of their music. I'll be honest. I think... But you know most people say like if you get caught listening to Creed, it's like getting caught listen to Nickelback.

Right. Bustin with the boys had nickelback, the guy from Nickelback on. That was pretty interesting. By the way, Will this morning invited me to the beer drinking Olympics. The 27th. I got a decline because I'm going to be going out to Montana. But it's nice to have an invitation. Well, it's kind of like the wedding invite that comes like two weeks before the wedding. It's like, who dropped out, you know? Did the guy from Sugar Land drop out? Like, you know, what happened? Why am I getting this invite now? But I do appreciate the invite. It's because Morgan Wallen went to rehab and

yeah. And Creed actually slaps. I feel like people don't listen to them because they're Christian rock or whatever. Yeah. I think Morgan Wallen. and canceled because he heard Kevin Byard would be there or something. Sports cars. No, they're cool. They go fast. I can't fit in one. They go fast.

They go fast. They go fast. They go fast. Yeah. I'm with a guy one time. It's a Porsche. It's like, you know, people think it's cool looking or whatever. You should see what's under the hood.

Here's what is cool. You wouldn't believe the way this handles at 120. Oh, yeah. How often you do it? 20 well you can't do 120 well what would it take for me to believe that me being in the car going 120 no thanks right exactly and and and i will i want to say this like bentley's rose royce those are objectively as cool as advertised i had some teammates that bought like rolls royces uh during my career and i'd like go ride like i'd ride in fred robins rolls rolls royce there's fucking stars on

the ceiling it's like it's like dark in there and there's a bunch of stars up there and like you just recline back and you've got all this leg room because it's like a chauffeur car and you just look at the stars. I love Benleys. I love Rose Royces. I don't think that's the worst take.

Sports cars. Little things that you can never see their potential. No, you can't drive it anywhere. It's illegal. All right, everybody. We got to wrap this thing up, but we will be back later in the week. We landed a really big interview.

Probably for next week. Yeah. But stay tuned for that. probably on Monday. We're going to have one of the bigger interviews we've had all year. It's a football player. But you guys can take guess at who it might be. All right, y'all, take care.