Green Light with Chris Long - Dale Earnhardt Jr! Racing, Football Fandom & Relationship with Dale Sr. Chris the NASCAR Pace Car Driver & GBU.

Episode Date: April 1, 2022

(2:34) - Hello, Layup Line, Standing With Eric Church and Chris’ Exciting Co-Host Gig. (25:32) - Dale Earnhardt Jr on Nascar Racing, Football Fandom, Crossover Between Football and NASCAR, Tips for Chris on Driving the Pace Car, Fights on Pit Road and Relationship with Dale Earnhardt Sr. (1:07:12) - GBU: Golf, Malcolm Jenkins, New NFL OT Rules and April Fools Day. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Dale Earnhardt Jr. joins Chris and Kyle to talk about his love for racing, how much he misses it, the crossover between football and NASCAR, relationship with his father, and he gives Chris some tips on driving the pace car on Sunday. Chris and Macon open the show with Eric Church and some Richmond Toyota owner's 400 race talk.

And then we end this show with some good, bad, ugly. And just a programming note, today's episode was recorded on Wednesday. As I'm sure you all know, Chris's co-hosting Get Up. You'll find out more about that later in today's episode. But you'll get Chris's comments on Bruce Ariens, Bobby Wagner, and all the other NFL news on our Tuesday show next week. Stay tuned. Thank you very much. Have a great weekend.

Hi, Mike. Hi, Max. Max, I'm going on a NASCAR race this weekend. That's awesome. Richmond, formerly Richmond International Raceway. Now Richmond Raceway. I want to remind people that for the Toyota Owners 400, they approached little old me through Windbat to drive the pace car.

It feels like this is a practical joke. Like maybe the race car drivers push me into the wall or something. You know what I mean? Are you actually driving the car? You're the driver? I'm driving the car. This is where I actually. do support robots. Like robots

and sports, we talk about like robots and umpires and where do we draw the line, but like robots driving the pace car I would imagine would make things a lot easier because I'm super fucking nervous about this thing. Is there somebody in the passenger seat saying like... Kyle's in the back, dude. There's evidently like a pace car

guide. Bear left. How far, dude? The track is wide. Bank, bank to your left. So we already recorded this interview. Kyle, my brother, who's a NASCAR fan and I, interviewed Dale Jr. And that's what you're going to hear

in a few minutes. And Dale talked about this very thing. Like he gave me some tips. It does not sound very easy, dude. And like generally speaking, I'm not real good at this stuff. Like I said, when I went to the 76ers game,

I told this to Jason Kelsey the other day. You weren't here, but I didn't know where to hit the bell. Like they had me hitting the bell. Like I was hitting the bell in the wrong place. I think I hit the bell in the wrong place at first. It didn't make a sound. Remember at the ASB,

when you tried to say thank you elegantly. Is it awkward? A little bit. It's saved on my phone. I don't look at that often. I just get nervous, man. I don't like to be. That's fair. Contrary to popular opinion, you know, because I have a podcast and shit,

but that, like everybody else has a podcast too. I don't like being in the middle, the center of attention. And this feels like when you're the pace car, everybody's looking at you like, don't fuck it up. Listen, I had a blast the first time I went to a NASCAR race. It was in Bristol. This is evidently another one. one of those short tracks so it should be crazy and i mean i would say it's a dream come true but i

never dreamed of driving a pace car at a nascar event so this is cool my dad once did um he did the gentleman start your engines thing at um uh the big raceway in texas i believe texas motor speedway um and there's an infamous picture of my dad you know how he like adjust his glasses yes he's adjusting his glasses and looking down and brittany spears is standing right next to him and so everybody was like oh howie long's checking out brittney spears he would never he would never dude my dad is an angel that guy loves his wife loves his wife so i know the picture well you know the picture well yeah totally unfair yeah well yeah if you don't know him right you might think but the guy adjusts his glasses every six seconds anyways here i am years later

doing something even cooler, I think. This is going to be really cool. I'm really excited for you. Yeah, I'm psyched, man. I'm really, I really am psych. I think you're going to do great, and I think that's really cool. And if I can make it about me for a second, top five interview guests in terms of FOMO that I've been asked not to sit down for.

Was that Dale Jr.? Yeah. Well, you could have said that, but Kyle jumped on it pretty quickly. Kyle's a much better fit. Kyle was like, I'll be there. I was like, hey, I'm interviewing your friend next week. Dale Jr.'s, oh, I'll be there. I'm glad he was, you know.

Kind of like if I get to talk to say, I guess I don't have many interests. That's the truth. That is the truth. Maybe some YouTube guy that's a real estate mogul. Never been on YouTube, though. No offense to, you know, our entire effort on YouTube or anything like that. But no, I don't do with that website. A lot of our listeners haven't been on YouTube either.

You got a hello before I get in this layup line? I sure do, Chris. Skokie, Illinois. Yeah. Hello! And I'll let me preempt your question. Why not? Cool name.

Skokie's in Cook County. How far is that from St. Louis? Solid five-hour drive. Oh, never mind. Imprinted on my... It's a village in Illinois. Hello to people in Skokie. Oh, it's actually near Chicago.

I feel like everything's near Chicago, even though Chicago is in like the top right of Illinois. Everything seems to be near Chicago. Hey, one more thing. I didn't want to say this during the interview with Dale Jr. he described what it's going to feel like to have like all those cars behind me in my rearview mirror he's like it probably be like something that you know and he was he was hinting at the fact that like it's it's the intensity is probably a familiar feeling to me like driving that pace car and and all the the cars behind me just revving their engines ready to go and he was like

it might remind you something in my head the whole time I'm thinking OJ you know like having all those cars behind you and I couldn't say that during the interview. So as you listen in the interview, notice where I restrained myself and was an adult. Good for you. Kyle's OJ. I'm Al callings. You know, OJ chimed in on Will Smith. I don't know if you saw that yesterday. Hello world. Hello Twitter world. He's never resort to violence. Oh, no. Actually, he, um, he said he understood where will was coming from. No, you did not, dude. I swear to you. All right. So anyways, I'm going to go lay up line. Do you have a favorite Eric Church song? God, I've got a few.

I really like Eric Church. I have a million, actually. We've seen Eric Church. We've seen Eric Church. I like these boots a lot. These boots is great. And these boots might, can we do the live, caught in the act live? Yeah.

These boots. That's probably the most, I don't know what the word would be. Chalky pick we could have gone with out of our favorites. I also like Mr. Snaim music. Sinners like me. Springsteen, everybody loves Springsteen. everybody from every walk of life loves springsteen talladagas speaking of your weekend yeah

round here buzz smoke a little smoke like a wrecking ball that's about sex how about you guys like me i'll give you a deep cut solid but we're going to go with um pledge allegiance to the hag god what should we do i'm gonna let you pick after i tell you why we're doing eric church so i stand with eric church

Eric Church made news this week because he had a show in Texas Saturday night. Texas. And unbeknownst to anybody that bought plane tickets or tickets to the show and whatnot, he has decided that UNC basketball takes precedent over his concert that was scheduled. So he said, I can't sing Saturday night. I am out on the concert. And I'm going to watch UNC and Duke. And I stand with him.

all hands on deck we need everybody we need bradley manic brady manic whatever the fuck you want to call him we need eric church we need the ghost of dean smith we need fuck the chief didn't he go to unc robert parrish he did not where did he go we need the chief anyways okay where do you go to uh robert parish college eric church went to oh the sentenary college of louisiana I think Robert Parrish went to UNC. Eric Church went to App State. Yeah. Like most UNC.

Like most UNC fans. And that's what I was going to say is like, listen, this is the one time I'm going to respect like the army of UNC fans that did not attend UNC, which is the vast majority of their fan base. At least this guy's a Carolina guy. He is a Carolina guy.

And speaking of Carolina guys, one more reminder. We have Dale Jr. coming on a couple of minutes. but Eric Church is a Carolina guy. He grew up a UNC fan. At least he picked right out of the two, you know. And he wants to see his team play, and I totally get it.

This is what I would do if I was talented, and I had a tour. Like, if there was something that was important to me, I'm probably going to make arrangements so that I could see the game. Or if I was doing the show, maybe I'd put to, like, where they put a teleprompter, just have a TV. I'm just back there soullessly belting out sinners like me and I'm watching UNC beat Duke behind the heads of whoever's at the stadium.

Reid, where do you land on this with Eric Church? Well, as Ryan Rosillo pointed out, Fish stayed behind the stage to watch the Final Four. Is he going to the game? Who's that? Eric Church? Probably. I would imagine.

He would his feet on the wood. No. Eric Church? Eric Church. I love Eric Church. You don't think Eric Church has got his feet on the wood there? That's a tough ticket.

That game's not going to tip till 9 o'clock. He couldn't belt out a couple tunes from 7 to 9. That's what I think. I think he wants to be, is he, go ahead, Brian. That was why I was after. I was just going to say,

I think he could have found a way to sing a little bit. He could have found a way to make his fans happy and then watch the game behind backstage or somewhere else. He could have sung some songs. Somebody's got to take the other side of this thing. I love Eric Church. I love Eric Church.

UNC and Duke. Yeah, and we hate Duke and we need everybody. All hands on deck. We need the chief. We need Robert. We need Eric Church. We need Chief and Church. Yeah.

Chief and Church. It sounds like Eric will be having a drink in his hand. Yeah, that's good. That could be the tune for layup line. We left that out. Why don't we just do these boots? These boots had to see. Cates the sky and need.

These boots. you you out on the road must have a code this is addressed to Eric Church he's got to have a code that he can live by and his code includes

skipping concerts for UNC basketball games I stand with Eric Church I said that on Twitter you should know that if I put a hashtag before most things I'm fucking around I had a hashtag I stand with Eric Church and I had like angry fans

with real takes who aren't even going to the concert like stop being so fucking offended on account of everybody else i stand with er church beat duke i was combing through his instagram to look at a couple comments my favorite one oh cold one woke comma done with you exclamation mark hey that's how sensitive some of his fans might be that like he's going to watch a sport that most of the players are black so he's woke Like, how do you draw the straight line from wanting to see a basketball game and being woke? They packed that arena in Denver and the one in Salt Lake City. Are those people all woke too?

Incredible the way some people's brains work. All right, so we're going to get to Dale Jr. in a second here. Driving the pace car on this podcast, too. Big announcement. Do you want to do it? Sure. By the time you're listening to this podcast, I will have fucked up my TV debut. on Get Up.

Greenlight host, Chris Long, will be appearing on ESPN's Get Up, starring Mike Greenberg and a host of others. Yeah, Thursday and Friday morning. Maybe as you're listening to this, you're drinking coffee. You're getting your fix. Coffee. You're on Thursday and Friday, huh? Yeah.

Damn. Yeah. Are you nervous? Yeah, a little bit. I am nervous because it's not my avenue, dude. That's not what I do. You know what I mean? I do this.

This is what we do. What if you kill it and you're great and you decide you don't want to do this anymore? I have to wake up at 5 a.m. There is no chance on God's Green Earth I would ever do what those people do for a living. That's right. Not just that. I have to go through my suit closet

to find a suit that actually matches and works. Like, I know it's jeans and a sport coat, but you got to have like... You're wearing jeans? Jeans in a sport coat. Fuck yeah, that's what they do on that show. I called Ninko. He does that too.

He does a show all the time. Why don't you put on a suit? A coat and tie, yeah. Really? I'd like for you, too. What does Greenie wear? I don't think Greenie wears a coat and tie. I think he wears jeans and a shirt.

sport coat. Bolo tie. Wear a bollo. You wear a polo. Kind of try hard. Yeah, too try hard. That's right. Glad we workshopped that. Good idea, cowboy, but yeah, no. For somebody else, that might work. Okay, jeans. All right. Okay. What color sport coat?

Something in the blue family. A blue? Yeah. Not a red. A red's too late. Reds. Reds too intense. Like a burgundy, like a port wine. I mean this. Seriously. Like you're, you're stylish enough. where you can pull something like that off.

Most of us out here are in the blues and the grays when we're wearing a suit jacket. Okay, but you're not going to judge me if I've got a little flare. No. Okay. What do I do on the show? How would I fuck this up?

How would you fuck it up? Yeah, you mean besides like just. Stone Cold Steve Austin graphic t-shirt. That would fuck it up. Yes. Okay, we're not going to do that. That wasn't on my packing list. Yeah, don't try hard on the wardrobe.

No. They'll take care of your hair and makeup. Yeah? Your hair cut. You're looking. Shout out to Dana. You're looking good on that front. I mean, not like.

Shout to Lori as well. Not like one, two weeks ago, good, but good. Yeah, no, no, no. Two weeks ago, I just shaved my face. No, and you had like sun on your face. I looked like a guy that I looked like a carny yesterday. Dude, today I look like a guy with a little waterfall. That's all.

Yeah. Don't say anything racist. Check. We're good. Misogynistic. Check, we're good. Okay. I think if you were boring and,

That would fuck it up. Okay. Try to be myself, but not too much. Right. Be a little bit yourself. But not too much myself. A lot yourself could go wrong. Yeah, right.

Yeah. Yeah. What areas of my personality would be the wrong thing to showcase? Thinking that everything that possibly could go wrong will go wrong. Okay. That's more of an approach, I guess. Go into it. Do you know that I won't be producing this show?

This will be tight. I won't be producing this show. I think just getting into a good headspace, though, was important beforehand. Okay. You think I'll drink coffee? That's the bet we need to take. I think you will.

You think I'll drink coffee? Follow up. Will you be doing drugs the night before? Oh, fuck yeah, dude. Are you kidding me? Will I be sleeping? You might need a little coffee.

No, I don't eat coffee. Maybe, maybe, but not because of the drugs. They'll probably get you whatever you want. May I recommend a cortado? Cortado. What's a cortado? It's an espresso with some milk. A little splash of milk.

You're trying to set me up. I'm gonna go on set. I was fucking Cortado. You're gonna be like that. Chris Long, he was solid, but he's high maintenance. That's true. Black coffee, straight. You more nervous for get up or for the pace car?

Probably get up because it involves like a social situation. Great thing about being that pace car is really there's nobody I have to talk to other than like. And if you crash it, it's legendary. Oh my God, dude. Like straight into turn three. Just boom, right fender. Think about all the things that could go wrong in there, dude. Can you, can we talk about content?

You put that thing into the wall? That would be awesome. Can I do a live stream, a green light live stream on our YouTube page of me doing the paste card? If Kyle's in the back, set up the phone. All right, we're going to be live streaming that pace car thing in some form or fashion. Can you please? I'm going to be live streaming get up.

Please. I'm going to set my phone against my cortado and be like, no problem, Jess. Saturday. It's just I want to live stream this thing for my podcast. They're probably going to make you sign something beforehand saying you can't do that. Not plug my podcast. But they can't, NASCAR can't make you sign anything saying my hand slipped. I'm not crashing the face. User error. Come on, dude. No. Everything would be delayed for a good 15 minutes. It'd be Chris Long, green light, idiot. It'd be great. No, crash the pace car, wear a full green light podcast jumpsuit. and they got to pull me out of the fucking out of the window you know it looks like he's okay

and he's obviously wearing the jumpsuit of his moderately successful podcast it's brilliant we found on youtube instagram honestly what's holding you back from doing that's not even where it can be found instagram what's holding you back from doing that like decency human decency human decency not making it about me but i mean a lot of people work here No, I understand. So how can I help the people that work here over this weekend? We have a couple big things going on. I got to go on national television.

I got to go in a race car. I'd like you to drop us some Easter eggs on Get Up. So when we watch it, we know you're thinking about us and the listeners. I will. Say Macon, but not like as a verb, like my name. Macon. M-A-O-N. No, I think to be fair, I need a little latitude here.

You guys want me to say Macon. I'll say Macon. Okay. That's like one point. Maybe like Macon. Gunter to no one no oh my co-host making Gunter just said this the other day you should say green light but not in reference to the podcast good good good good good good good that's like five points that's smart oh that's green Roxanne five points five points I can say

making about anything say Roxanne say cod Roxanne yes say Roxanne but the people don't know what Roxanne is because it gets cut out of every show that's our cut word that's exactly People know that it's your cut word and our millions of Greenlight listeners will know when they hear Roxanne. Roxanne is like a 50 point word, dude. Yeah. 50 point word. People at home don't know what Roxanne means because we cut Roxanne. Roxanne is what I say when somebody says I'm like,

when I stumble over a word really bad or we have to stop and start. I say Roxanne because in the beginning I wanted read to know, like if he was just sitting there, like, you know, had six browsers open that he'd be like, oh shit, I got a cut. Right. You know? No, it's smart. And you're a perfectionist. I've kind of let go some of that OCD like right there.

I just stumbled a bit. And I wouldn't say Roxanne because I just, I keep it moving. I'm not saying it either. I keep it moving. All right. So Roxanne's 50 points. Say backwards Superman. What?

That's what I taught your son to do yesterday. Oh, yeah. That was a bad thing. I walked upstairs. My kid was jumping backwards off the couch. Oh, I was in the room. I've got a kid doing that too.

And Luke was going backwards. jumping off the couch and landing on the couch. Yeah. I've got a, I've got a 14 month old doing that. It's a little worse. Like you, I'd like you to get some expressions in.

I think these are five point expressions. Five points. Wah-hoo-wah. Grass is always greener on the other side. Grass is always greener. Oh, we're going cliches. That'll be, that'll be a quick way to get you not invited back.

Stanford Steve worth two points. Stanford Steve. Stavford Steve. Teas God. No. Cod God? Just no God. Are you doing any sort of religious?

Nation of Islam. Anything religious? Anything religious? Religious reference. How many points for religious reference? Ten points. Ten points. Next man up.

Minus five points. Oh, if I say next man up? Yeah. Yeah, no, no. I'm not going to say that. What do you mean? No, no, no. I'm not going to say next man up.

Everybody who goes on and says, next man up, grass is always greener. I want minus five points for cliches. Okay. You got it. Yeah, hydrated. Hydrated. 10 points.

So right now we've got making one point. That's the lowest amount of points that you can get from our list. Then grass is always greener, 5. Minus 5. Green light, but not in promotion of the podcast. You get 10. Religious reference is 10. Stanford Steve is 2 points.

Hydrated 5 points. Next man up minus 5 points. Wasn't there like a 50 point in there? How many points do I get if I say Dr. Fax? You're going to put me in the minus on that one? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, no, no. The problem is if you do reference Dr. Fax,

they might start calling you Dr. Fax. There's just going to be too many Dr. Faxes. What if I take his name on national television? It's such a cool name that they might, like, by Friday morning, they're calling you Dr. Fax, Chris Long. Big up to us, circa us, circa, 2019. That's where he got that name. Roxanne. Roxanne was on the list. Roxanne. Did I say liquid death? Throwing liquid death. Oh yeah. Let's get more sponsors. Yeah.

Shout out big Tony is worth 10. Shout out my dog. All right, man. I'm going on get up. Wish me luck. Good luck. Thanks. All right. So here comes Dale Jr. As soon as I let him onto the pod because I am the pace car. Can't start yet. The interview can't start yet. Can't start yet. You can stop short. Stop short on the pole, dry, pull, you know.

Do you listen to music in the Pace car? I don't think there's a radio. All right. Here's Dale Jr. After that, we've got a little good, bad, ugly, and get you out of here. I started taking athletic greens because I wanted to see what all the hype was about. With one delicious scoop of athletic greens, you're absorbing 75 high-quality vitamins, minerals, whole food source superfoods, probiotics, and adaptogens to help you start your day right.

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And we've got Dale Jr. On the line here. How you doing, Dale? I'm doing good, man. I'm at the house in North Carolina. and we live just about probably 30 minutes north of Charlotte. And we've been super busy. The race season's sort of going.

The NASCAR race season's about five or six weeks in. And so we got all that happening. I'm a broadcaster for NBC, and we kind of picked the season up in the midpoint in June, July. So you've got to kind of stay focused on what's happening. so you know what you're talking about when you get in the booth. But we've got a lot of other things going on too, man. Just real busy two kids, two girls,

running around in the other room and ear infections and sinus infections. And, boy, dude, I'm telling you, it is the season for that. They bring everything home. It's crazy, man. Yeah, they sure do. So since you're doing the races now, is it easy to just detach yourself from them or is it hard? like do you do you get kind of like the competitive juices flowing while you're wearing your suit

i think that uh i think when i'm there's you know there's not a day that goes by that i don't think about racing or driving a race car or wish i was racing um it's kind of funny you know it's like uh you remember when you were young and you got you had this girlfriend and and uh man you really everything was great. And then, you know, you found a few things that maybe you didn't, didn't appreciate or didn't like or and or maybe she found something about you. She didn't like or whatever, but y'all split up, right? And you're so relieved.

You're like, man, you know, that really wasn't working for me. I'm kind of glad I'm out of that relationship. And then time goes by and you're like, man, I kind of miss that girl or I missed that relationship, man. There were some cool things about it because you only remember the good parts, right? Yeah. And then you make the mistake of getting back together. And in days, you're like, oh, damn, I remember that part.

I forgot about that. I forgot about this and the other things that were annoying. And then you break up again. You know, it's, I think, you know, for me, racing's kind of like that, that ex-girlfriend. You know, you, the only, you, there were a lot of things about it that were frustrating and, God, losing sucked. And there were some tough days. and it would eat at you all week.

I know you guys can understand that when you have a game that just bothers you and you can't let it go. You can't wait to get back to play the next game or race to next race. You can try to redeem yourself. And that's a frustrating, miserable existence sometimes. And so sitting here today at 47, several years removed from driving, I do miss it. But I know that I still know that I made the right choice and where I'm supposed to be. and it's okay to miss it a little bit.

I think that kind of helps me in the booth have genuine passion, right, for what I'm watching. That's a great point. Yeah, I mean, because you can kind of hear it when somebody's into something. Yeah, like last year I did the booth a little bit. Yeah, for CBS. And I was like, I was across from your guy, London Fletcher.

There, Dale. Yeah, and he, him and I felt like we were his game day every day. Like, he's over there dancing in the corner, but while they're counting down 30 seconds, I'm getting ready to go. I got an eye on one TV watching Mitch Trubisky, who was a teammate of mine. And I'm sure you're the same way.

And you got guys out there in your cars on different nights of the week. And you got guys that you like. You got guys that you're renting properties to, I heard on the podcast. So it's interesting to hear you in the booth. I totally get the analogy because I almost came out of retirement. I went back for a second. And just in meeting with a coach, I was like, you fuck this this is the thing i don't miss about football um just the meeting dude um but

what did what do you miss about her is it like you know like the wink the smile you know like the way she you know like brushes her hair like what is that one thing that you miss about NASCAR because i'm pretty sure you could in your giant ass backyard go drive fast yeah i um you know i miss i've tried to i've tried to really articulate what it is that I miss. And when I think about it, it's, I miss battling with somebody one-on-one. There's a trust with that person, you know, and when you're out there racing, you're going to put them in very difficult situations.

They're going to put you in difficult situations, but you trust each other not to take each other out. And even though that happens sometimes, but I, I, I enjoy battling with a guy, you know, a real good, honest race and beating and banging a little bit, getting some tire marks on my car. I love getting out of the race car after the race and walking around it and seeing all the marks and the, you know, kind of like a football. It's like a helmet. It's just like the way you're describing that. Hey, look at this helmet.

Bro, I used it in training camp, stand in the mirror and look at the bruises on my forehead. How twisted is that? If all the grass stains are on the front, that means you were kicking ass all day. If nothing was on your back, you're going to be all right. Yeah, that's exactly right. So if all the tire marks are on the left side, you were getting passed. And so a long time ago, I was a big Washington. I've been a big Washington for all my life.

And so it's been tough since 91. But Dave Butts gave me a helmet. And I've got it. Game, your game worn helmet from, I believe, the 1985 season. But this thing is beat too heck, man. And I'm sitting there. I'm like, you know, this is exactly like, you know, when you look at that helmet, you know, it's the same thing is getting out of the race car and looking at the scars on the car and looking at

the beating and banging that you've done on the race car. There's some pride in those hits and those moments that created that, you know, that, that dent or that mark on the car. And so I miss stuff like that, the nitty gritty and the dirt that. you get under your fingernails and I don't miss, you know, the meetings, the, the, the constant, you know, you got to live it. You can't half ask it. You can't be in there halfway.

You got to, it's got to be part of every day. It's got to be a priority every minute of the day, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Wednesday, family's got a sacrifice. Friends have to sacrifice. You have to sacrifice any kind of social life. and all the things that you want to be doing otherwise have to take a back seat so sim racing and things like that that I love to do hanging out in my buddies drinking beer stuff like that and that doesn't happen as much when you're when you're hardcore racing Kyle knows this he's got buddies around here and we both live here in Virginia now but like I got a bunch of high school buddies that were still tight

and I feel like I missed a whole bunch of chapters of people's lives you know like I missed weddings I missed the birth of like my friend's kids like yeah and that's really hard now I was lucky enough to not have kids until my 10th year in the league so I knew the end was near but like how much did that suck to miss things I mean like your kids relatively young how old are your kids my little girls are three and one so you didn't have to miss anything so you actually drew up is that intentional no I didn't you know when I was racing I was super selfish and I really didn't feel like I was missing anything. I was there. Everything was about me. I was every short about me. And so I was I was living for me. And now that was that that that, uh, that's probably why

I didn't have kids till after I retired because I didn't put, um, my relationship was Amy first. You know, I, uh, we would, you know, we'd say, you know, we're never going to have kids. We're never, we even said at one point we weren't getting married, but, uh, you sound like me for a long time. I know. I don't know what the hell I was thinking. It's the best thing ever. It's the best thing ever. It did. Yeah. It took me a while to be honest with you. After I got married, it took me a few months to get to to forgive myself for pushing that off. And then when we started having kids, again, I had to have this sort of, uh, I had to forgive myself for a lack of a better way to articulate it for waiting so long to make that part of my life. Now, I wasn't responsible enough

in my 20s to do that, but, you know, I'm 47 years old. You know, when my girls are graduating high school and going to college, I'm going to be pretty far up there, you know, and I hate that I hate that I have to, I hate that I can't, you know, I can't, I hate that I didn't enjoy this sooner or try to make this part of my life sooner. It's certainly made my life better. It's exactly what I needed, all those things, the cliche things that you hear, people say about being a father or having kids. But I should have, I think I would have be better off today had I done that sooner. And, but hell, you know, it is what it is. I had a great time.

And, and, and, but I was really, really selfish. Yeah, but, but you know what? Not to, it's your life, man. I don't, we don't know each other well. But I'm just saying, like, I just feel like if you have, if I'd have my, my two sons, if Waylon and Luke came along at like year five, I wasn't ready. Right. You know, like I just wasn't ready.

I couldn't imagine that. The way my brain was, like, it was so committed to what I was doing and anything else that got in the way was such a, like a fucking nuisance almost. Like, I don't know how that would have been. And I wasn't mature enough. I was fucking crazy. You know, like, so yeah, so it's like, I know probably you're like, damn, I wish I had done this earlier, but maybe you wouldn't have been your best self as a dad either.

No, no, you're right. And, but I think around my mid-30s, I needed to. I was ready. Yeah. And I probably, I probably put it off five or so years. You know, again, it's not a big deal. You get to be the cool old dad, dude. Those are the cool.

I remember the older dads in high school were the coolest ones. So that's going to be wise. Wise. A lot of good stories. Just keep your, you're great at telling stories. Just tell the kids stories. I love your pod. Just whenever, whenever anything else fails, just tell a good old story.

And people will be happy. We all have some a little bit in common here talking about like, Another thing is my moves in fatherhood were instructed by my dad and what he said, which is that he always wished he was more present when I was, when he was a player. Because I was the firstborn and, you know, I was born in the heyday of like crazy ass Howie Long, like not calm.

You were born in 85. When he was like Tarzan. So he played another eight, nine years after you. When they beat the Redskins. I was born about when they beat the Redskins in the Super Bowl. Mark May. Yeah, Mark May, his favorite guy. So, but I don't know, man.

Like, that kind of instructed me and like having a dad who played and all that stuff, I feel like it helped me, but it also, there were a lot of like impediments too, like pressures, people doubting you, people doubting your accomplishments. Like here you are driving a car as fast as you can and winning races, I'm sure at certain points in your career. And there's still people side eyeing you and hating on you. I don't want to assume that. but that's how it is in football.

What was it like growing up with your dad as one of the biggest names in American sports? It was frustrating sometimes. There was a double-edged sword. You know, it presented an immense amount of opportunities. It opened all kinds of doors for me. I was racing side by side with other drivers that I became friends with that didn't have a last name,

didn't have a lineage, had to make, they were the beginning of the line. right in terms of their race car driving history and their family and and so i could i understood that you know it my way was easier my path was easier because of my name and my dad but people would be shocked to know the reality how he was not really hands-on and he me and my dad never set down and he never set me down and said hey this is the way you drive this corner or you can you can go if you try this. We never had those moments.

And, you know, for whatever reason, I guess he felt like, yeah, yeah, damn, I can't explain it to him. He's got to go out there and do it, just learn it, right? I don't think he was intentionally standoffish or just, he certainly was occupied with his own career, but, you know, it, I don't think that his way was wrong. But I just want to make it clear that. like I ran 159 races in the late model stock series, which is basically the kind of the beginner class or a beginner class in the early 90s.

That was sort of my cutting my teeth. And he, as far as I know, never saw one race. You know, as far as I know, he was not on the property and watching me drive. He was, there was always a race that he was at or another thing that he was doing. that kept him away. And so, you know, where you see a lot of these dads, they're there, they're present, they're watching, they're observing, they're part of the process, right? That wasn't the way it was for me.

We had a really awkward, awkward relationship. We did, we did, we did not know how to communicate with each other without arguing. Every time that we, every time that he came to me, I felt like that it was, we, we did, we did, we did not know how to It was a, you know, a finger in your face or in your chest going, you need to do this. You need to get, you need to try, you know, you need more initiative. You know, it was always pushing you to like, you got to show more initiative. I wasn't there early enough. I wasn't, I wasn't where I was supposed to be all the time, you know.

And my mind wasn't on what it was supposed to be on. That was the way it felt every time he'd come at me. And I still loved it because he was Dale Earnhardt, right? any interaction with him was great. But I remember the first trophy that I won, me and my buddies, we went down and raced at Myrtle Beach, and we won the race. The guy that was winning all the races down there was a regular, and his name was Robert Powell.

He wasn't there that night for whatever reason. And so we win the race. We got the trophy. We're happy as hell. We came back home and we set it on top of a Lance Cracker machine in the corner of the shop. And when dad walks in, I'm waiting on him to see that trophy. And he looks at it. And the first thing he says is, I guess Robert wasn't there.

And I was like, damn it, man. My God, dude. I mean, literally, that's what he said. I guess Robert wasn't there. He already probably knew. Somebody probably already got in his ear and told him. And I'm like, shit, man. I mean, here I am winning my first race.

I just, I'm doing what you do. Like I'm, I just won my first race and that's your profession. And I'm trying to make this happen. I'm trying to, trying to be a driver. And, boy, it didn't matter. So that was kind of tough. But I want to make sure to say, like in 98, so that was, that was, like I say, it was, like I say, it was real awkward and kind of, I was, I didn't know how to, I didn't know how to get on his level. I didn't know how to impress him.

and in 1998 he put me in the Xfinity car to drive for him, this blue AC Delco number three car, and we won races and won the championship right out of the gate. It worked flawlessly. It was amazing. And right in that moment, it completely changed. Our relationship was the same. We were on the same level. He wasn't intimidating to me anymore.

It wasn't awkward anymore. You know, I spent most of my life going to my dad and just running through my brain trying to think of something to say. Every moment you're around and like, what could I say that he would, what could I say that he would care about? What could I say that would make him notice me, right? Yeah, that sounds familiar. This sounds eerily familiar, my man. All that came to an end in 98 when I started winning in the Xfinity Series and won a championship. Then my dad started looking at me as a business, a prospect, a future.

he's like, man, this might, this might work out. And you're going to fit right in. You know, and then I became part of the conversations about the future, about the business, about the company. And then we started talking racing, you know. It was crazy how it shifted so quickly. At what age did you get the method to the madness or do you think there was a method? I don't think there.

Honestly, I don't think that dad saw a whole lot of potentially. in me up until 98. Maybe around 97, he might have saw a couple little glimpses of potential. But I wasn't, you know, I was lazy and occupied by other things and still trying to race. And I thought I was focused. I thought I was, you know, dedicated to racing and making it work. But I don't know. I, around 98, 99, you know, we won two championships back to back in the Xfinity series,

and that's sort of the college level of NASCAR. So the next thing is the Cubs series, where Dad is at. And so when we started having conversations about going there and me going there and me driving for him, it really got serious. And then we announced this mega deal with Budweiser at the time. it was the biggest sponsorship in the sport and he was super he was beaming he was so proud of himself

everything it's all it all kind of started to make sense then what was happening and what what we what we could accomplish it's just incredible it's like it's such an intense relationship yeah you know like in football I'm never going to have

to play for my dad unless he became an owner like a coach I mean he tried to coach our high he did coach our high school yeah in a way we were kind of mercenaries for our dad. No, dude. On the football field. So, Dale, it's some fucking little giant situation.

When my younger brother, when my younger brother moved to varsity, he became the quarterback. And my younger brother, Howie Jr., he's about 511, buck 85, like a little Johnny Mansell type with a mouth to match. And I wasn't a football player. Chris was an All-American at the high school. but he was at University of Virginia now. So he was out of the picture.

Right. I said, Dad, I want to play football, I think. And he said, Kyle, it's not for everybody. Yeah, I mean. And he said, your brother, Chris, is different. I remember him saying that from a young age. Your brother Chris is different. He's wired differently.

He said, you took a long time to grow into. He said, you are so happy in baseball. I don't even know why you would even bring that up. And I said, no, how he's going to be the quarterback? I want to play football. I'm going to switch schools to play with him. So I went over there to play. And similar to when you said you went to the B car and started winning all those races in the AC Delco,

I remember the first time I put hands on somebody in football. And the look my dad gave me, I had never warranted that look from him before. And when he looked to me the first time like that, I said, oh, we're on to something here. Even if I'm not having fun. So I get how you became so good at football. I can drive this some bitch. You were trying to impress dad the whole time. So when he's saying, I'm saving up things to say to him, I want to just get a reaction.

Like I can relate to that so much and it makes so much sense to me. But you know what? To be honest, though, and like dad was always, he did a really good job of being like, he didn't want us to play football. He kept it real. I don't know if your dad wanted you to race. Like, because of the inherent dangers, like in your sport and ours. like my dad tried to steer us away but it was like once you were in it he was going to be

brutally honest yeah he said there's no half step in here like if you do this there's one way to do it yeah you're all in so that's funny as hell was your dad also a redskins fan or was there's oh what was this so uh yeah he pulled for he pulled he liked montana and so um he was more a fan of individuals particularly if he met them um um But also he pulled against whoever was playing Washington. So it's just the ultimate villain. He's like, you can't even have a fucking football team, bro.

I'm just out of an Eagles fan. I'll never forget in, I think, 84, when the Raiders beat Washington for the Super Bowl, he purposely, we sit down to watch the game and he knows. I mean, I'm, I'm all in on John Wiggins and the Redskins. And so,

he's like, oh, I'm a pull for the Raiders. And boy, did they destroy Washington. When Thaisman throws the pick six on the nine-yard line, I literally cried in that moment. And my dad's sitting right beside me clapping. I was like, come on, man. This is brutal. It was hard enough watching my team lose.

Then my dad's over here celebrating it. That's fucking classic. The underdog Raiders, I believe. Yeah, I think they had a margin. I think they might have. They didn't look like underdogs that night. All right. So tell me,

as you really got the Washington broadcast piped into your car while you're driving. Well, so my spotter at the time is a Bill's fan. He's from Buffalo. T.J. Shout out to T.J. DJ, yeah.

And so T.J. knows how much me and both him, me and him both love, love football, love the NFL, love our teams. And he goes up to Bill's game. games in the middle of December on purpose, right? It's like he has to go to a game that's eight degrees, two foot of snow. He makes his wife and everybody suffer through all that.

And he doesn't even drink. I don't know how he does it without having some sort of alcohol in his system to be in a situation that ridiculous. But he's dedicated. And so he can appreciate my dedication. And so I would say before the race, you know, we would talk about who our teams were playing and our fantasy lineups and all that stuff because we've been in the same, we've been in a fantasy lead together for two decades. And so under caution, I would be like, hey, TJ, what's the score of the games?

And he hit the, if Washington was winning, he'd tell me if Washington was losing, he would just say, you don't want to know. And he wouldn't tell me how bad they were getting beat. Just keep hitting your marks. Yeah. He didn't know the score a lot. It would absolutely affect the way I was feeling or driving the car, you know, because it would, you know, your personality. Well, what's the angriest you ever were about Washington while you were actually on the track?

Oh, man, I can't remember exactly the race. But there was a game. They were, they were playing some, you know, one in 10, two and two and eight team and getting beat by two or three touchdowns. The Rams. It might have been in the ramp. I might have been in that game. I might have been on the side of that motherfucker, dude.

Y'all were the only team we could beat early. I was so, they were so, oh, man. I mean, everybody's teams like this. They win games as they shouldn't, and they lose games. They shouldn't. And it's just so frustrating. Are you, are you okay? We've got a, you know,

Carson Wend's character coming to town. How are we feeling? I'm good with it. You know, I, um, you got to look at the last, I don't know, 15 quarterbacks we've had. So we're pretty much used to putting anybody back there and seeing what can happen. And there's been more, there's been years where we went into the start of the year with bigger question marks than Carson Wentz.

And honestly, I don't know, I don't understand. Nobody really is talking about why Indy wanted to get rid of him. But he had some good moments last year. You know, there was some bad moments too. but Heineke was fun. Great story. Is it going to take us to the promised land? I don't think so.

This is a big talk yourself into it. This is perfect. Because I've done the same thing. He is fun. I was on a pod yesterday and they asked me about my buddy, Carson, Wins, and is it going to be, and I did this whole 30 second, like, well, there's some good, there's some bad. It could be great.

Is he going to win? I don't know. You're not going to fool anybody with any ideas about Carson. Everybody kind of knows what he is. is and what he's capable of. I think if we surround him with a great team and our defense does what they're supposed to do, we can go places.

But, you know, that defense is your hope. That defense is your only hope. They're scary. Yeah. Well, I don't, I don't disagree with that. I think our defense is, no boy. The girls are having fun.

What scary, the commander defense or Dale's house, dude. Speaking of the commander defense, that fight on the sideline, you've seen worse fights on, I'm talking about the... They throw it down like Jonathan Allen down there. Yeah, Jonathan Allen, Duran Payne. Somebody connected to Washington sideline. You know they care about football.

They care about racing on pit row. Have you seen, like, what's the best fight you've seen on pit row? Probably Daniel Torres, as he swung on somebody at Phoenix a couple years ago, Michael McDowell. And so, you know, a lot of times when the guys get in arguments, it really never even comes to physical contact, there's people breaking it up or whatever. They just don't ever go there.

But Daniel went over there to make it happen. And it was interesting, man. I don't think any of us expected that out of Daniel. and so you know we rarely see it in our we rarely see that in our sport but uh i was kind of surprised to you know see the we got it up here we got it up here we're watching while you're talking we're seeing daniel strut over here like right well he's got he's got the i'm going to punch somebody yes oh this is oh shit they're throwing down he's beating the guy with the helmet he's got some greco roman skills he slammed the guy with the helmet so i saw hip toss in there he got hand

control. And he broke. So in football fights, the big rule is don't take your helmet off. Yeah. Like our dad growing up was giving us tips. Even in the friggin line after the game, Dale, when you go shake hands, you double buckle that thing. Because you never know when you're going to run into an Aaron Donald who is doing the same

thing. Yeah. I know. So that's in NASCAR. If the other guy has his helmet off, you better get your helmet off because the, because social media and fans are going to go, why did you keep your helmet on? Were you scared? Got it.

Oh. Oh, it's like, I mean, yeah, it's like hockey or something like, let's throw down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's just the same way. So if you see two guys argument and one's got his helmet on the other doesn't, you're thinking with other guys either, he's smart. He knows this guy could throw a punch. But he's also going to catch him hell from social media.

I like when the guys just sit in the car and the one dude runs up and yells on the window and the other guy's like, I'm just here in my car. All right, man, just like get away from my car. Dude, I love, I love the fire. in pit road i think it's it's pretty cool um all right so this weekend i'm driving the pace car at the toyota owners 400 i am a toyota owner so this feels right it's perfect and i'm going to bring my large brother in the back seat right oh yeah i'm riding in the back seat okay i was right do you have any tips for me like what's a big no-no when you're driving the pace car

well um i don't even know what i'm doing dude yeah so so you're you're at the front of of the formation of of of cars and they're going to be two by two side by side so you need to center your car in the middle of the racetrack don't go down to the bottom next to the apron or don't go way up the racetrack you need to be always kind of centered uh almost uh in the middle of the groove there uh so it looks good on tv and the photo ops all they're good um they'll tell you about the pace that you need to run. It's got a speedometer in there and all that. Cruise control, you think? No, I don't know. I doubt it. I don't remember. Cruise control is such a bad thing to ask a race car driver about. Is there a line in the

middle of the track, Dale? No, it's not. Is that going to be disorienting? No, I think what's going to be fun for you is look in the mirror and you're going to see 40 cars behind you. and they're going to be they're going to look like rabid pit bulls staring at a T-bone steak and you're going to feel some you're going to feel this you're going to feel this unique energy off of that group behind you that you probably could relate to something but maybe not it's it's very special I remember when I went to uh indie I drove the pace car at NASCAR car races at Dayton 500 and at Indy and when you look in the mirror and you these guys are ready to a new battle. You can appreciate that.

They're getting ready. I mean, the moment's here. And they're getting ready to run this race. You're going to pull off the racetrack and you're going to set them free, right? You're going to turn them loose. That's such a weird, cool feeling. And it's a strange energy and emotion, man, that I'd never felt before in my life. And so it's a powerful thing, that visual of looking in the mirror and seeing those guys knowing what they're getting ready to do and how focused they are.

You can see them. You can see them in there, you know, you can almost see their eyeballs. from where you're going to be. And maybe one of them will pull up beside you and rev up the motor and maybe tap the back of the car. Hopefully Kyle Busch is not behind my brother. Right. I hope somebody taps.

I hear Kyle Bush might tap me. So, all right. And my pick for the weekend is Martin Shurex Jr., by the way. I just picked it out of a, I don't know, a hat almost. But, yeah, no, I'm looking for a favorite. It kind of reminds me of the two-minute drill in football when the referee has to run in and place the ball and all the guys are already on the ball. And it's like, oh my God, get in and get out.

It reminds me. Yeah. Honestly, the way he's describing reminds me the fucking guy working the rodeo gate, dude. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's like when I open this motherfucker, it is on, dude.

Yeah. And plus you get the sounds and everything. I've only been to one race. Actually, as an adult, I've been to one race. You go to Bristol? Bristol. Yeah. So I went to Bristol and, you know, like, you right away, without a ton of,

of information on what I'm walking into. I'm kind of like, this feels old, this feels awesome, like this feels like traditional, you know, and like that was confirmed by hearing from people that knew these short tracks are like where it's at if you like the purest kind of, am I right on that? You're right. Yeah. Is Richmond the same way? Yeah, Richmond's been around forever and you're right. The short tracks are the short tracks are kind of a nod to the history or the roots. So of the sport, but also a lot of the drivers learn their craft at short tracks. Yeah. Right?

We don't jump in race cars and start out on a mile and a half, you know, two-mile race track. We start at these smaller venues that are dotted all across the country. And, and, and so there's a, there's an appreciation for the guys that can do that really well or compete really well in the short tracks. It's kind of this, not a lost art, but it's very, very rooted in our history. I think that, you know, the, it's a, if any of the guys do interact with you, if any of the guys do come up there and swerve or rev the motor or do whatever,

it's a sign of appreciation for having you there. It's a sign of respect that they're glad that you're doing that. And so I know you probably will know that in the moment. But I remember when I was on the front row of any race, I absolutely knew who was driving the pace car. And I absolutely knew whether that was cool for me or I thought that person was cool, right? Or I was glad that they were there. And, you know, it's really cool when we get people from other walks of life come experience our sport from a unique perspective like driving the pace car, right, as opposed to just standing in a suite somewhere.

Yeah. And so I know that the guys on the grid will be excited to have you. Well, I like being down in it. I got to go down in it when I was in Bristol, and I walked right by Richard Petty in the underground hallway. And that guy has a fucking, like an aura, dude. Like, that guy. Yeah. I'm telling you, you know, like, when they said in the Dave Chappelle skit that, like, Rick James had an aura, I've been around so many people.

I walk by the king, right? The king. And the king had, like, I got goosebumps. The king had, like, a glow around him. He had his hat, like, people behind him. He just was, like, walking from here to there. and you just kind of the Red Sea parts, you're like, that's him. I've heard some tall tales about his hat.

Can you tell me about what's on his hat? I don't know. I think it's like somebody said it was like a raccoon dog or something. That hat has its own aura. You have the Richard Petty weather system and then there's a weather system around his hat. But going down in there, I thought it was really cool, like meeting a lot of the pit guys, like, because there were a lot of them. They were like, yo, we played each other.

Like, there's a lot of football. football players down there that are doing pit row. Talk about the demand for football players and athletes to come be those people. So our pit crews changed the tires and refuel the car in a matter of 12 seconds. And so it's a, it's big, you know, in 19, in the 80s, the same guys that built the car and took the car to the racetrack did that job. Yeah. And pit stops were 24 to 30 seconds. And no one ever, it just never dawned on anybody to go, you know what?

This is an athletic thing. This is something that could get faster. We really need to try to figure out a way to find athletes to do this, to change a tire, to carry the tires around the car, to jack the car up, run the, this, you know, 80, 100 pound jack to run it around the car and do the job to get the car off the ground. And so, you know, a person like me, I couldn't jack a car. I don't weigh enough. I do not weigh enough to actually get the jack to pump and lift the car.

And so it takes a beast. It takes a strong person with a lot of weight. Anyhow, over the years, we, you know, guys started kind of filtering into the sport very slowly that had athletic backgrounds, played sports, whether it was pro sports, college sports. And now that's all we have. There's not a guy that goes over the wall. It doesn't have some sort of athletic background, which has been really. really entertaining because for me as a driver, I almost got two sets of guys. I got the guys that build the car and then I got the guys that pit the car. And they're not never the same people.

There's never a guy that built the car doing the pit stop. They're all athletes. They're, they work real. That's all they do. They train every single day. They practice pit stops every single day. And, and they'll do a truck on Friday night. They'll do an exfinity car on Saturday and they'll do a cup car on Sunday. They'll pit all three of them. And so, and then there's, then, you know, what was even crazier is in the last probably eight to ten years, we've got a big group. We've got a, we've got like second string. Yeah.

There's a, there's a, there's a backup tire changer, a backup tire carry, you know, just like we basically just mimic y'all's model in the NFL, you know, where we have a second string and a third string. And these guys, they're, they have, they have absolutely. the same similar injuries with handstrings and different things. And you'll bring that second string guy up. And he's trying to take that job. He's trying to, he wants to play on Sunday, right?

Oh, that's interesting. Yeah. Oh, it's the exact same. And they give scholarships, they give scholarships for universities that have these programs in place. I'm not sure the proper terminology, but I believe that NASCAR does have a way. If you want to get involved, Chris, NASCAR has a way. I would like to leave this job. Yes. At first, Dale, your podcast, what's it called? Like, what's it about?

And then, like, you said earlier something that's really interesting. You knew who was driving the pace card. It sounds like a lot like we know, like one time when we played Miami in the last game with the Orange Bowl, The Rock was there doing the coin toss. You always know who's doing the coin toss. So who's somebody that you fanned out on, like, having on your podcast the same way that you might have, you know, driving behind somebody? Stone Cold Steve Austin. Oh, yes.

Yeah. What? I mean, that guy, he was, he was amazing. I was a big wrestling fan back in the 80s with Dusty Roads and Magnetiae and watching that as a little kid. And in my house, we weren't allowed to watch wrestling because it made me too hyper, but I would still watch it. And then I quit watching after a while. And then Stone Cold Steve, you guys must have went through the same thing. Stone called Steve Austin brought me back, man.

I'm watching wrestling again. like this guy's legit right his whole image and persona and everything is perfect i love it and the beers and all that and uh so to get him on my show was one thing but then he was really open to being he talked about anything yeah you know uh he you know i've always wondered about color and blood and how they cut and how they hide it and and when they did when do they decide this is happening right And all that shit. So, and he was like totally open to discussing it all and uncurping back some of the layers, you know, of the business, which was really interesting. And so, and it was great.

And to meet your heroes, sometimes you're a little nervous about meeting them. And you definitely don't want to be disappointed. But he certainly, I was so glad that he was amazing. So that was pretty cool. But it's called Dale Jr. Download. We record every Tuesday morning. You can find it on all major podcast platforms.

Most of our stuff's going to be NASCAR and NASCAR history. We just had, we had a lot of guys that have been in the industry, past drivers and stuff like that to come on there and tell their stories and what they're up to today. And a lot of guys that are in the sport today. But sometimes we'll have a non-racing personality. And so, and that's always a good challenge. That's great, man. I look forward to diving into that one.

I'll start with the Stone Cold. I was at Rassling on Sunday night. I'll send you a picture. I had the Stone Cold jersey on, actually. So check that out. Dale Jr., thank you so much for the time. Very gracious. Thanks a lot, dude.

Look for a pace car where the back end, the ass end is kind of like dragging it a little bit this weekend. That'll be me in the front, Kyle, in the bag. And Toyota owners 400. Thank you, Dale. Appreciate the time. I appreciate both y'all's friendship. And I hope you guys have a great time in Richmond. I can't wait to see you soon.

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I would like to sign Grady Dick to a futures contract for the All-Vibs team. He's committed to Kansas, McDonald All-American. He's a good player. Derek lively is also a really good player. Duke's going to be stacked. He was even more stacked to Arkansas. Really?

The hogs got three top 20 kids coming in next year. Really? Yes, sir. Anybody with Duke? Yeah, Duke will still be good for a little while. I stand with Eric Church. Not for a long while. All right.

Do you like that interview? That was a great interview. Favorite part? Middle. Coincidentally, that was a really good part of that interview. Yeah, man. Harden on to like Dale Jr. Legitimately.

Honestly, like, he's one of the greats that I've met, respective to their sport. And, you know, I've talked to him. online, texted with him recently setting up this interview, and then just doing the interviews the first time I really sat down and talked with him. And you know, it's Zoom, but honestly love the guy, dude. What a cool ass dude. And down to earth. And his stories are amazing. He's a great storyteller. Hope you enjoyed it. And we hope to get him back on again. So that was an awesome interview. I think my favorite part was watching your face progressively get more nervous as he

talked about the pace car, though. Was it, was it like, did I get more nervous? You started It looked like it was dawning on you like, oh shit, I could fuck this up spectacularly. I could absolutely fuck this up. And if I could fuck something up, I fuck it up. The biggest compliment I ever got was from Greg Roman, rolling ball of butcher knives. He meant on the field and I think just off the field as well, I can be the same way. So I hope it's not like that with the pace car. Yeah, anyways, I'm going to try not to.

There's no lines on the road. Please, please put it into the wall. I'm not putting it into the wall, dude. but Dale said he likes to fucking kind of rub up against the wall because he said his favorite part of in the interview which you heard of course but his favorite part of racing the thing he missed the most is getting out of the car

and seeing all the marks on his car and saying like well I just battled Rubin's racing but what if I just took it to the stream and it was like as a pace car driver I want to see some marks. I wonder if there is there a reverse in the pace car?

If I drove it backwards? You know what I've been saying a lot lately? I've been teaching my kids. I'm the backwards man, the backwards man. I can walk backwards as fast as you can. I'm the backwards. Freddy got fingered is gonna turn 21 in the next couple months or year.

Like that is an old movie now and it's a good movie. Is that? Tom Green. That's the genius of Tom Green. What was the other one? Where was a road trip? I think it is called road trip. I did know.

I swear that was real. Hey, Tom Green had a meteoric rise. Yes. And fall. Well, I don't think. I don't think in Tom Green's mind he fell. I don't think Tom Green was ever after being a superstar. I think Tom Green.

Just went away. He's just Tom Green. No, I think he does like podcast now and that sort of thing. We should get Tom Green on the pod. Good call. So he can absolutely shit on you for saying he had a meteoric fall. I don't think he ever went anywhere. Tom Green's still part of my lexicon.

We're, where his, we're his demo. I'm sure he'd love to come on. Daddy, would you like some sausage? I haven't seen the film. I'm just going to keep. Daddy, would you like some sausages? No, if you'll excuse me, I still have some work to do. I love some sausage

I love some sausages I love that movie dude You and 56% of the audience On Rotten Summittles Yeah, I'm in the majority It's one of those ones You can't trust the critics Critics Panic

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Which is the NFL Do you want me to start With the NFL stuff? Yeah dog Yeah yeah yeah We're off and running now Isn't that what Greenie says Greeny says that I think

Hut hike If you want to go out there If you want to get up and work with Greeny The grass is always greener Do you want me to come with you? Yeah Okay You want to go?

When are we back? Friday That'd be a good time escape your family, not that you think of it that way? That's two bath times. I'd like to see you guys waking up at 5 a.m. together. Oh, well, actually, I think I'm more equipped to do that. No offense.

Dude, honestly, when I wake up at 5 a.m. I'm wide awake. I don't drink coffee. I'll wake up. I will go out. This is me, like as a dad now. And back in the day, I couldn't do this. But being a dad of multiple kids, no offense. Multiple. None taken.

You still have to live your life. life, but the morning comes. And like, smash mouth. Even when I sleep in, even when I sleep in air quotes after a hangover that started with a night out till three, four in the morning. I'm up by eight. So like I work on four hour of sleep after I drink. Like a five a.m. sober with my notes headed to a production meeting and a sport coat and a fucking, you know, some jeans. Marine layer. Marine layer jeans. I'm good, dude. No problem. So we've got overtime rule changes and like I feel like I saw the last crazy overtime in playoff history that that, you know, happened under the old set of rules.

I was there. I was there for Buffalo and Kansas City. I was there. That was the game that we're trying to avoid. Even though it was like one of the best games of all time, it could have been better. We could have had more of that game. Only the NFL has set up a circumstance wherein the biggest cash cows within the sport get kind of ushered off the field. I'm sure there are instances in other sports where you could take better advantage of your best games, but the NFL's left a lot of money on the table, in my opinion. I know it's a physical sport.

I've played an overtime games. I played an overtime game in 2012, I think against the Niners, which we should have won at Candlestick Park. Danny Mandola had a touchdown callback. We would have won that game. It ended in a tie. It ended in a tie, and the first time they lined up to kick a field goal, I didn't know the rules of overtime, if I'm being honest.

Like, kind of, it was hazy. It was like, I'm not really sure what happens if they make this kick. You're Donovan McNabb. Maybe you want to beat Donovan McNabb, because at least you're admitting you didn't know the rules. Like, I think there are plenty of guys who didn't know the rules all the time. Because you're not thinking about overtime when you set out to play a football game. You're thinking about winning the football game.

And then when overtime happens, you might be too afraid to ask the question. And it totally goes against, you know, there is a situational element, but try to get a stop. That's kind of where your head's at. Long story short, they changed this rule, I guess, around 2012.

They amended the old rule, I think, which was, flip a coin, the team that gets the ball first. It's just sudden death. They didn't always get the coin toss, right? I think Jerome Bettis was the victim of one of those in the 90s. that was one of those remember where you were

when it happened things but since 2012 when sudden death stopped I believe and this is much different than the regular season where games have been kind of split 50 50

depending on the coin toss winner as far as who wins in overtime if you took the numbers in the playoffs from 2012 on I think it's like 90% of the teams that win the toss win the game that's too high

it's way different than the regular season which has been as kind of kind of hovered around 50. So there's a reason they're changing this rule. The rule change is going to come into effect immediately next season in the postseason, not in the regular season. Why are they doing it that way? Because they don't want games that drag on in the regular season where you're trying

to just get to the post season. You don't want to lose a bunch of people where you have a regular season game coming up in six days or four days or whatever it could be. You could be playing in, you know, an hour long overtime. you could accrue 30, 40 extra snaps and have to go play Thursday night football. Nobody wants that. I think it's okay to draw a line in the sand

and say this is regular season, this is postseason. I think they do that in hockey with some of their shootout stuff. Yeah, they for sure do. And I like this rule change, but I almost wish they would go further to protect the players in the regular season, just eliminate overtime in the regular season

as Macon kind of alluded to previously. And just get to a tie? See, I think overtime, the juice is worth the squeeze, but I agree with the NFL that beyond like their current format in the regular season, I think it gets a little risky. I think the juice is worth the squeeze. I think we get really dynamic, thrilling games.

Maybe you could do something off the board down the line to make games that are ties like Detroit and Pittsburgh, that bizarre kind of like, are we playing to win? Are we playing to tie that happened this season, I believe? Maybe we could kind of figure out a way to, on the spot, to side games that are going to be a tie. But I think they're on the right track in the postseason. 90% slanted to the team that wins the coin tosses too much.

And it was Indian Philly that wanted to amend these rules. I mean, they were the ones that brought this forward to a vote. And it was a resounding yes, 29 to 3. I wonder who the three that said no and why. I would love to know. But again, 50, 50, depending on who wins the coin toss in the regular season, since, you know, a decade ago or so. But in the playoffs, 10 of 12 coin toss winners have won the game in overtime.

And so what are we doing now? Touchdown, extra point. Other team gets a shot. They can score and they can go down and go for two if they'd like. First team can go for two if they'd like. No question. And what are we doing if both teams score certain points? Then it becomes sudden death.

Like after the two possessions, I believe it becomes sudden death. Yeah, Matt, that's the case. Yeah, that's right. This Quintosh still matters a little bit. You still want the ball first because both teams score. I disagree. I don't want the ball. I want to know what I have to do.

I don't want the ball necessarily because I want to know what I have to do. It can be liberating to be in four-down territory. Like honestly, like, if you have four downs to get 10 yards because like your existence as a football team depends on it, it's scary for a defense because they're running plays on a totally different kind of shot clock. I mean, their goals

for first second and third down are much different. Like, you have that extra down to play with. If you come out and you're playing

with three downs because you don't want to turn over on downs backed up, like I kind of feel like that's sketchier. Another thing is you hate receiving a kickoff.

I hate receiving a kickoff. I know that like you want the ball first, but it's just like being on the road. There's another, like you're on the road in the playoffs. Do you want the ball first in the playoffs?

Like, if it's a kick. No thanks. Because it's going to be loud. You know, you could it could be three and out, a punt. So you could get the ball at the 50 yard line.

Field goal. I mean, that's, games start like that all the time. Justin Tucker. I thought, the St. Louis Rams, I thought the script was for eight years on the road,

three and out punt. I thought that was the script. I thought they had that written down in the fucking script. And then they had it scripted for their offense. It was either a 30-yard return and they're starting in the red area, people running around, people cheering.

Like that's the cautionary tale of getting the ball first in postseason, I believe. The only issue with kicking off, which I would do, as you guys are alluding to, is both teams score seven points, then it becomes sudden death and you don't have the ball. But if I'm the second team with the ball needing to score seven, I probably score touchdown and go for two. Oh, yeah, because you can do that and win, right? Yeah.

that would do it. That's right. I still would take the ball first. Excuse me. I think the math will say to take the ball. I think it depends on the context of the game. How you feel about your matchups. You know,

are you on the road? It's hard to score, Matt. I know some people don't believe in momentum because of the word momentum. Like, it's just like, it's some magical word. But momentum is just the context

around the play. I mean, and so momentum could be, well, our last three possessions, we went three and out. Hey, our right tackle.

just went down late in the game. Are right guards cramping? I don't know. It's loud as fuck. A running back who got 30 carries the first three quarters is out of the game. Or hey, Eli Apple's on the other side.

I didn't say it. Just to follow up, it was the Bengals, dolphins, and Vikings that voted against the rule change. Interesting. And here's the thing that snuck under the radar.

So we think that overtime rule amendment is good. Universally, probably people like things. Yeah. Good. They also are keeping an experiment that they basically ran in 2021. And this is going to affect games, I think, even more than the overtime deal. It deals with the onside kicks and where they set it up. And last year they changed the setup for onside kicks. I forget exactly how,

but we saw an uptick in recoveries. The rate of recoveries doubled, you know, like essentially doubled 7.8% in 2020. I think in 2021 it was 13.5%. So, I mean like that is a huge jump. That's where it needs to be. And that's where it needs to be. Yeah. There's no point in having an onside kick. There's no point in having something that that happens 5% of the time.

You know, it's good for the NFL when an on-site kick gets recovered. It's fucking crazy. It's one of my favorite things in sports. I might even like a 16% success rate. Yeah, juice it up a little bit more. I mean, not crazy. Not like one in five. But getting there.

It just goes to show you how lucky. the Seahawks for when that guy from Green Bay dropped the onside kick. I mean, like Sunday hop, the whole thing, what's the success rate on a Sunday hop on an onside kick? I mean like, anyways, I digress. One in seven. You all know what one and seven is? That's 14.3%. I like that. One and seven. That's good. Because there's an onside kick in at least probably three or four games and three games a week. I would bet, right? Yep. three, four games a week.

I don't know. I might be way off on that. But if we can get, you know, one every two weeks, that's pretty exciting. Yeah. Okay.

That's my good. Here's a good. Tiger Woods y'all played a round at Augusta National. See, now I get why everybody likes the Masters. It hadn't dawned on me until this year in the very generous

folks at Winbet. All you people wager on golfers, and that's fun. Yeah, I'm going to try that this year. So Tiger's probably going to be a long shot. Long shot. Something fun to root for. Yeah.

Tiger is Buddy Lee, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He almost lost like his legs. You can't keep him down, dude. Here's the thing, and this further proves my, my Reid knows what's coming. This further proves my hypothesis, which are golfs are the biggest addicts in the world.

Biggest addicts on the planet. I see people, I live near a golf course, there's a siren that goes off. Like when there's a lightning storm coming, I look outside to see where the lightning storm is. There are these giant black clouds, and there are people not in a hurry golfing. Screw it.

It's cold. Like the sun comes out in the dead of winter, and it's 47 degrees. People are out there golfing. 47. 27. People are itching. People golf with people.

They don't even like to golf. Like, y'all are addicts. And it's okay. everybody has something, but golf is an addiction. People spend $2,500 a year on equipment to be better golfers. They're usually not. And usually not. And people look at me and they're like, why do you gamble?

Like that's money. At least when I gamble, I can hit the wind bed app while I'm sitting with my kids. You have to leave the house for six hours and pay to access a course. You said this, $2,500 on equipment. How about lessons? How about, you know, country club fees? Green's fees. Green's fees.

Green's fees. What about why there are no fairways? Making up fees, dude. Sand trap. You can't make a fee, did? You get a cart? Pond fees. You're drinking beer.

Anyways, golf's an addiction. You're all addicted. And I retired from golf the other day officially. Did you see that? No. I retired from golf officially. So if anybody asked me if I want to play around a golf, I've retired. You would actually get out there play a little golf.

No, I've retired. Test. You know who else retired? This, I'll give you a good. I'm going to put this as a good as Malcolm Jenkins after 13 seasons. Yeah. A ton of great accolades in his career with the Saints and with the Eagles, multiple times Super Bowl champion, pro bowler.

More than anything, just a great football player, man. Like Malcolm Jenkins, he just did everything. really well. He just did everything really well. He tackled really well. He was really smart. He had great ball skills. He was just a guy you could trust on the field. Sure, he made some mistakes like all of us, but he was more often than not the guy that was making sure nobody fucked up. And when we were in Philly, we had a lot of young defensive backs on that Super Bowl team. And he was definitely a guy that doesn't get enough credit. I mean, obviously everybody knows he's one of the biggest leaders on the team. But I think for a guy like him, when veterans come in and get a lot of,

oh, this infusion of veteran, like there was veteran talent on that team. Malcolm Jenkins, there was veteran leadership on that team. Malcolm Jenkins was not only one of the best players on the field that we had, but also one of the best leaders that we had, period. And he was responsible for what was essentially no shade at daycare center. These guys were young, dude. And this is the position that can lose you a game any given play. So I think the stakes are always so high and it's so nice to have kind of that center fielder back there, who can come down in the box too, and, you know, used to come over to D-Line Indy

when we'd be working on our pass-rest drills, and he would literally try to hop in our drills. And so he was always thinking about the little things, like the little aspects of the game that he can improve, including something like that one or two plays a game when Jim Schwartz fires up a blitz, and I'm coming from, you know, five yards off the ball, am I going to be able to

you know kind of hone my skills to where I cut off fractions of time and get to the quarterback that'd be like me every day going over and working on my drops for the two plays of the game that I zone drop or something now I know he has to do that more than two plays a game maybe but this guy was really on his details

he really was and so as a teammate I appreciate him as a football player I appreciate him and as a friend I appreciate him great dude man when I talk to Malcolm I tell him I love him I mean it we did something special together, but it's good because the world is better with Malcolm Jenkins off the football field than on it. And it's pretty good with Malcolm on the football field. But I think he's

going to do a lot now in this chapter of his life that's going to make the world a better place. He's already doing that, but he's got more time to do it right now and the work he does off the field in the social justice arena has been really second to know when you talk about football players and there's a lot of great ones that have lent their time to causes outside football. He's done a great job. So congratulations on a great career for Malk.

13 years. Awesome, awesome football player and a great friend. Did he ever get that rash cleared up? That was fucking epic, dude. I got him so good before the double-doin game. Miced up. I used to have this joke.

That was the double-doin game. It was a double-doin game. You see what a lot of people just say locker room guy you i'm really about keeping it light dude like we're getting ready to play a huge football game anyways i used to hit guys with this joke whenever i knew they were miced up i'd come up and ask them if their rash had cleared up you know because it gets caught on the microphone and uh malcolm incredulously was just like i really don't know what you're talking about we're getting ready to go out for coin toss he's getting ready to go out for coin toss so no miced up oh okay

Did you get that rash cleared up? The one that you were asking me about like the topical oint, the one right next year. That's the highlight of my relationship with Malcolm probably was absolutely taking him to school on the mic. Have you gotten your rash cleared up? I don't know what you're talking about. You know, you said. No, I know, I know, I know.

I don't know. There is no good way to answer that question, dude. There's no good way to answer that question. which is why it's a good way to go. Here you go. You've seen a couple players try to, we just touch by accident. You've seen a couple players try to do that. Yeah, a lot of drive.

A lot have tried to replicate that. Yeah. Where do you guys put the throwback Kelly Green Eagles jersey? Good. Does that mean they're going back to them like full time or are they just doing it? No, sir. It's amazing. It's amazing.

That's like coming up to somebody who like desperately needs a home and being like, hey, coming in 2023, two nights a week, we're going to give you a home. home. Like, dude, I desperately need those Kelly Green. Well, baby steps. Baby steps. No, there doesn't need to be baby steps. I agree with you, but baby steps. Jeffrey Lorry tried to keep calling it Eagles Green too. He kept going Kelly Green, Eagles Green, Kelly Green.

Cheryl, Ireland was around before the Philadelphia Eagles. He did say that they would be identical to the Randall Cunningham. So they're not just going to do the color and do something else. There's going to be the crazy eagle with the football and it's fucking talons. Yeah, it'll be great. They fucking should be. And they're going to go black helmet this coming year. Yeah, that's better.

With the black jersey, black. Because it always like, it was like a tease. It was like, yeah. Like that. You got that picture right there. Yeah, we're wearing black and we took our helmets off for the picture, not just because because they were green. Because they're green.

It doesn't make sense. Yeah. So that's an NFL problem. Only now are they going to allow two different color lids. Yeah. Well, the NFL needs to fucking. and figure it out. Yeah.

Yep. Figure it out. Beville Conway. I'll put that as a good for sure. Yeah. It's great. Here's a bad. I read somewhere,

maybe it's not the case anymore. I didn't think we were allowed to call former presidents, former presidents. I think you're supposed to, respectfully always call them president, or as he likes to refer to himself, the 45th president. But this guy,

damn, if he wasn't such a bad guy, he'd be hilarious. He goes out and plays golf and allegedly Well that's what he was before he was president before he had the power to fuck the world up Right people everybody

They didn't love Donald Trump They just kind of were like I am entertained by that person He was one of Howard Stern's most colorful guests So yeah everybody that pretends like they just You know People used to hang out with them So here's a statement

I think the guy fucking sucks and sorry if you're here for NASCAR and you like Donald Trump. I like listen, dude. I got nothing against you or your way of life or NASCAR or fucking country music or drinking beer or shotguns. I just don't like Donald Trump. I think he's a total piece of shit. Quote, many people are asking, so I'll give it to you now.

It is 100% true while playing with the legendary golfer Ernie L's winner of four majors in approximately 72 other tournaments throughout the world approximately. like he had his stats and info guy on how many tournaments or he's won and like, ah, ballpark. Ballpark. And some other people. I made a hole in one. It took place at Trump International Golf Club in West Palm Beach,

Florida on the seventh hole, which was playing 181 yards into a slight wind. I had a five iron which sailed magnificently into a rather strong wind with approximately five feet of cut whereupon it bounced twice and then went clank into the hole.

So, There's a slight wind. He hits the ball, and then there's a rather strong one. It's called a gust. So you're giving him benefit of the doubt. No, I'm just saying like there's, like there's. Because I'll stay in with you on the dumb ass shitbag corner. He's total shit back.

He's just, but we're talking about the lies about things. I mean, he's, yeah, he lies about everything. But, you know, it's pretty bold to lie about a hole in one in front of a bunch of people. I don't think he's lying about this, but the wind going from slight to significant. Oh, yeah.

matter of a second. It's questionable. Anyway, there's a lot of chatter about it. Yeah, I was hearing about it from several people. Not quite exciting and people everywhere seem to be asking for the facts. Playing with that group of wonderful, talented players was a lot of fun. The match was Ernie and me with no strokes against Gene, Mike, and Ken. I won't tell you who won because I'm a very modest individual and you will then say I was bragging and I don't like people who brag.

That's a statement from a real person. Yeah, we just can't have the end. entertain me button so close to the lead the free world button. Because everything was fine when we were hitting the entertain me. And that's also something to tell you about society. Society, and I'm not one of these inherently political people in a partisan sense, but society will totally tolerate somebody in all their fuckery. And then the minute, you know, Donald Trump, I'm pretty sure if I was ever around him at any

point, I think he was a scumbag. but when he's doing a reality show with Snoop Dog or he's like you know hanging out with Martha why am I in the Snoop Dog Martha Stewart Bermuda Triangle did they all collaborate on something is that like a Freudian slip on my part um maybe they were on the apprentice like celebrity apprentice or something yeah like when he's saying you're fired everybody's like ha ha the guy's a fucking lunatic or when he's like I'd like to hook up with my daughter like this guy's a fun time a little weird but interesting entertaining it's just the fuck we live in a simulation dude we live in a simulation

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