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Episode Date: April 19, 2022

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Enjoy yourselves. Go ahead, Mike. You're the one who has the question. Yeah, all right. So Scott and Ryan used to do a segment on their radio show called Overrated, Underrated, or Properly rated. And we just passed Easter. And so I thought, Jesus Christ, over, or properly. I'm saying.

Firstly, before you get pretty curses. of you and us to credit them with the segment. Remember when Ryan did good, bad, and ugly? Yeah. We have not done good, bad, and ugly since, Ryan. You ruined the segment. It's all yours, buddy. Much like the Romans ruined a lot of stuff for Jesus.

Overrated Jesus for me. Okay. Seems like he's getting a lot of, what's it called when you did something a long time ago, but you're still getting credit? What have you done for me lately? It's the opposite of what have you done for me. what did you do for me a long time ago? And I'll just continue to praise you for that.

Yeah. Now is Jesus, he's God? He's the son of God. He's the son of God. So when we're saying like, dear God, that's not even Jesus. You know, a lot of people hate nepotism and a lot of people of, you know, me being Howie Long's son, have thrown that word around when I've been successful. I wonder if any of you worship Jesus.

You're Jesus. You're one nepotism guy of all time. You're saying you're more of, you're like a Jesus. No, what I'm saying? No, I haven't given. you my overrated, underrated yet on Jesus. Okay. But I am just telling you, I just wanted to point that out.

If you hate me for nepotism, maybe you should look at that book of yours. Also the book. Is that real? Like, did everything in there happen? That's what they say. If it did happen, he's probably underrated. Like walking on water, changing water into wine. Yeah.

If he walked on water, he's underrated. I'll give you another reason why he's underrated, actually, though, because I think I'm going to fall on the underrated side of things. And is it? Jesus is a he? It's a he? Yeah, it's a he. Can fish.

It's a pescatarian. Smokes marijuana. You know that? That's what they said, right? Matt. I don't know if he smoked marijuana or not. Yeah, well, we don't know if he walked on water either, but is his middle initial really H? Jesus H?

Old men in the South think so. Tap dancing Christ. All right. So listen, the segment is overrated, underrated, properly rated. I know what Reed's going to say. Cowboy laid on us. Properly rated. Of course.

I think Jesus is overrated. Oh, welcome aboard. I think Jesus is underrated. I think Jesus, for everything that they talk about Jesus having done that I believe, I think Jesus is probably pretty underrated. Say something nice about Jesus. Maybe some of the things that we've used Jesus to do, a lot of the Crusades would make Jesus.

but it's not Jesus's fault that they did all that fuck shit with Jesus many years later. Jesus was out there just trying to be the son of God. Jesus didn't know that religion would turn into what it's turned into. Yeah, no question. Joel Olstein was going to be locking the doors at his mega church in the year of our Lord 2000 and whenever the fuck that was. Was that the flood or the pandemic or? I like what Jesus does for people. It kind of gives their life some meaning.

you know? No question. That's pretty impressive. That's impressive. So in a lot of ways, maybe you're falling on my end. Well, I'm just, you know, it's not black and white for me. By the way, was he black or white? He was, he was not neither. He was neither. He was neither black or white. He probably looked like a Syrian man. Honestly, anthropologists would tell you, but what the fuck do they know if you ask a white or a black guy? And the long hair and the beard? You know? I guess those are pluses. I will say this, though. Jesus is a, big like yeah i'll get to it when i get to a guy which i really like you know like jesus is like i'll be

back like you know i'm coming and then i've heard about this second coming yes and so that's why we're supposed to act all right because he might be coming around the corner or what right he's really playing this bit up somebody time now i remember now because all we've done for 2,000 years is be total assholes i remember vividly and by vividly i mean basically the opposite of that. When I was a kid, there was a new story and somebody claimed to be Jesus. And he was like,

X, Y, and Z. And then we didn't, that guy, like, did crimes and died. Jesus impersonators, overrated. Oh, underrated. I haven't seen a good Jesus impersonator in a while. You just told me about one as a kid. No, I was a kid.

I was a kid. Yeah, I was a kid, though. He was a thief. you know who's not overrated the intimidator imitators the Dale Jr. imitators we saw some of those a few weeks ago at the NASCAR race

guys just walking around in full intimidator suits. Well the intimidator was Dale Sr. Yes. God Dale Jr. Jesus. Yeah. And I think I think he's underrated by way I think Dale Jr. is underrated by way of this whole you know like well he

wasn't you know he wasn't his dad he's one of the top 30 racers of all time. Anybody ever drove a fucking car. He's one of the top 30 of those motherfuckers that ever put their hands on the wheel. Jesus, he's got to be top 30. Talk to me about Judaism. Well, Jesus was a Jew, I hear.

Yeah, and a carpenter. He was a carpenter. He could build you a house. He'd catch you some fish. He'd probably, if I handed Jesus a raw cone, he'd be like, is this indica or sativa? I got somewhere to be. Wow.

I don't think he'd be a carpenter anymore, though. I feel like he'd be a 3D printer. magician. Magician. He sure would. What would Jesus do for a living now? Well, he'd be dead. Well, if he returned, if he comes back, dude.

Podcastor? No, he's going to be like a financial planner because I hear he saves. Nice. Frank Costanza, I think. Help me out here, Kingston. George has an uncle or an aunt and they ask, what would he or she be up to? And then Frank, I think, says he'd be dead. That was great.

Somebody else with the joke. That's nice. You think you can keep me out of Florida? I think you can keep me out of Del Boca Vista. I'm going to be at the Bocci. I know, but Bocci balls. I didn't. I didn't see the scene.

I'm not even doing it well. Okay, but I say underrated. He was like 33, right? 33. Larry Bird when he perished? Yeah, it was Larry Bird. Taylor? What are my thoughts on if he's,

overrated underrated well or properly rated welcome to the show you're like jesus in a lot of ways uh i would say uh i would say that he's uh underrated thank you i'm kind of with chris here i'm not okay i shouldn't say i i'm organized religion and what it's turned into definitely overrated i think the message that jesus brings is definitely under i think religion's always been kind of fucked they they literally crucified Jesus over religion. This is Frank. So it didn't become, in my opinion, I think it's always been, it's always been sketchy, organized

religion. But somebody like Jesus, if you're studying that guy's, you know, what he was, he was purported to have done, then I am on the Jesus's underrated. And that's even if I don't buy the walking on water thing. That's all the other stuff. You think you could keep us out of Florida? We're moving in lock, stock and barrel. We're going to be in the pool.

We're going to be in the club. We're going to be all over that shuffleboard cord, and I dare you to keep me out. I need to listen to. I know the scene you're doing, and that is a horrible. I know, I know, I know, I know, I know. Maybe some others know it. I know. I just, I don't have it in my head right now.

Second coming of Christ, second coming of the USFL. Okay. How's that for a segue? Yeah. Jeff Fisher doing its best. Jeff Fisher. Jeff Fisher's doing something that I think is an incredibly impressive in me and my brother Kyle talked about this yesterday.

I was at my house for Easter. I went inside and I wanted to turn my hat backwards. I was like, Kyle, what do you think about my hat being backwards? It was a snapback like the one I'm wearing now. Maybe, hey, it's Easter. I don't wear a hat. You're doing it right now, dude. Holy shit.

You have your snapback on backwards. That is not an easy thing to do. How do you ignore the fact that your hair looks kind of fucked up in the little open crease in the front? I feel like that's, like if you have hair that's too short, it leaves a mark on your forehead. if you ever have to take your backwards hat off. And if your hair is like long at all, it's going to look fucked up in there,

as does yours. Right. So I'm taken. Like I think mine, it hides the bad hair line. Like it's like, oh, he's probably a decent hair line

because I can see hair in the little whole thing. I just don't know how people pull that off. And I think Jeff Fisher, like being able to pull that off, guys who can pull off the backwards hat the way Jeff Fisher pulls off the backwards hat are so fucking cool to me. Oh,

so that's your take. I would say my man did not pull it off. You think you're pulling it off, but Jeff didn't pull it off. No, I'm only doing it because Jeff did it. I don't think either of us is pulling it off. Yeah, no. I think Jesus could pull off the backwards hat. Yeah, because of his hair.

Yeah. Like Charlie Whitehurst. Charlie Whitehurst could pull it. Bro, Charlie Whitehurst, I always tell this story. When I ran into him drunk as a skunk at a casino in New Orleans at like midnight at the National Championship game, I think I was down there with Steve and Ryan and those guys. We ran to Charlie Whitehurst. That guy has an aura, bro.

He is so fucking cool. It's incredible. He can definitely wear his hat backwards. But Fish is back out there. He lost their first game. Paxton Lynch lost the first game. I'm not going to blame Paxton Lynch. Absolve Jeff Fisher.

USFL, fun fact, they play all the games in Birmingham. So it's an interesting strategy. I mean, like, whoever's the coordinator for, and I don't want to criticize my dad's workplace because they have Fox, my dad. My dad. My dad. My dad. You got Fox and you have what?

what NBC or somebody else and then Peacock and we're getting a bunch of, so you create a bunch of barriers to entry for things that, that are really fucking cool, right? Like for me, yesterday trying to find the Michigan Panthers game, it was like, oh, you got to go to your Fubo TV.

I'm like, where is that located? You know what I'm saying? Like, and I would imagine a lot of people who are trying to get their football fix are not like going to spend 12 minutes hunting down a password, you know, or on the phone with Fubo TV to,

to tell them who your first grade teacher was to recover your password. Like, I'm not doing all that to watch USFL. I don't even know if I'm doing that to watch the... Mrs. Halliday. Yeah. First grade teacher. It was Miss Halliday?

Yeah. I was Miss Hill. Oh, H's. Yeah. I don't know about this whole thing. Now, if you talk to somebody who's got the USFL glasses on, they're going to ignore the fact that they rolled the ball out Easter weekend. Like, nothing like a huge miscalculation where you're like,

I think we'll really. hit the Bible belt with this new league and then we're going to start it on Easter Sunday. That's brilliant. You know what I mean? Like Saturday. They started Saturday and there were a few people in the stands. But then Sunday there was like nobody in the stands. Like they didn't show up.

They were like Jesus. You know? Well, that's when he does. He showed back up Sunday. Well, he's going to show up next week. The fans are going to show up next week. That's, it's really palsy. In some ways I kind of respect the USFL for just being like, you know the guy at the bar that's,

You might not know because why would you make one a fist? Oh, yeah. A guy at the bar that he just walks up to, he's a short king, he's confident, he's unflinching, and he's like, let's fight. You're like, this guy's going to get his fucking ass kick. But 5% of me kind of believes this guy might be able to beat me up because of how in the face of such a huge, unlikely challenge, you're so confident. And that's what's going on with the USFL right now.

They rolled the ball out Easter weekend in Birmingham. They competed with the NBA playoffs. Like, I have no idea what the USFL strategy is. And I love the spin. They're like, this is the first event since Super Bowl one. That was a simulcast like this, like two competing networks at the Fox and NBC. Like, maybe there's a reason this is the first simulcast since Super Bowl one.

Maybe they're like, oh, let's let them have that second simulcast because it ain't like it's a big deal. we will both take a flyer on the USFL. Also, if they're trying to get fans, you get like four games in Birmingham in a weekend, how many people are going to go to all those games? Yeah, dude, there's other addictions in Birmingham, like math. Like, there's no need to go back to the well three and four times.

And listen, I think, I'm hoping the USFL works. I really do, because I love spring football. I love the concept of it. I want to float something like, I don't know if in a couple years spring football becomes, you take all the the ACC schools that don't break off

with all these big time football factories and start their own pay league because that's what's going to happen one day is all these SEC coaches that say I'll never pay a player and whatever they're saying like the Sabins and the Davos Sweenies of the world those guys are eventually going to be like

leaving college football to start their own league and I'm not saying that's going to happen for sure but that's something I worry about maybe the rest of the party that wants to show out and have an opportunity to play at the next level says well these developmental leagues

and I don't know if it's going to be the USFL 2.0 or something else or if it's going to be the XFL in a year I think those things might become your avenue to like show and prove. Meanwhile in Alabama they'll draw 90,000 for the Alabama spring game talking about spring football. That's tough dude.

It's tough to compete. with that. And there's nobody in that stadium on, well, yesterday at this point. Seats taken. And like that's a 71,000 seat stadium. So in every way, it was such an ambitious start. It's almost like you're the short king at the bar. You're just trying to make me wonder what you have up your sleeve because you have to have something up your sleeve here. Because everybody knows with these leagues, it's one and done or you can survive. And now the XFL last time around survived a year, right? Haven't there been, this will be a third iteration?

Right, but the XFL pre-pandemic, there was some promise there. And every time a league like this sprouts up, somebody thinks, and you know rich people, they think they can do anything. So every time a league like this springs up, you're like, but if they just did that differently, there was no pandemic, if they just set the footballs on fire, if they put drones in the air, if there was a POV camera, which by the way, the drone thing is kind of cool. It's cool. Maybe they could get a drone noise canceling.

device because it's a little cheesy to hear the drone over the footage. That's my only complaint. But a lot of cool production, you know, deals that I really do think this is also like a focus group for networks. Like this is like if this thing folds, it's not a lot of money for us. We're not paying the players at all. There's 38 guys on the fucking roster, which the minute those guys get hurt, depth is going to be an issue. But I feel like there's a lot that the NFL can study from a rule standpoint, like we're kind of using this as a focus group. And the networks can too on the production end of things. Like you're doing the three point conversion thing. You're doing the onside kick thing. You're doing all types of, you know, two four passes behind the line of

scrimmage or, you know, whatever the fuck that is. I'm not going to know because I might not watch a USFL unless I'm watching Jeff Fisher. But I think the drone angles could come into the NFL. Like if you remember back when the XFL premiered in 2001, they were the first one to have that camera on over top of the huddle, which now we take granted. Skycambe. But no, you're right. I mean, like, that league is defunct, but you know, how much money do you think?

It's a hard thing to kind of pin down and be like, well, how much money has Skycam made the league? But it's not an insignificant, like, little feather in the cap. It's definitely enriched our experience. I don't know if it's made them more money, but like, you know, having those types of things, being able to try them out at a minor league level. Like, you see that in baseball.

Baseball uses their double A, AAA, AAA, NBA uses the G League. NFL really doesn't have that. And of course, you're not going to be like, well, Skycam went on and got us a million dollars this year, but eventually the attrition of like really good production tools ends up making you money. I think if you add like a drone into the mix, like one that doesn't crash into the player or, you know, hit a ball that's in the air with the game on the line. Like the POV stuff was cool.

I mean, like in a way, it kind of looks like the beta stage for something that's going to be really cool. But that's what a lot of this is, is like that POV cam was kind of shit weak. But the concept is cool. It is cool to see where players' eyes are, not using chain gangs, using chips, which I don't like. Why? Because I think when it's all done, this is going to look like robot football. But the one thing that makes me feel like I'm a kid

is watching people fumble over the chains and the measurement. I think that's a fun time. I think it's also a time that the NFL, and I've said this before, in football can revel in imperfection. Because if you have imperfection, you have people talking about your game. You don't want too much imperfection, but if everything is perfect, it's kind of boring.

Like, what are we going to talk about during the commercial? Twitter is on fire during a review. So, like, let's not get rid of all the fucked up. Let's just experiment and see how much fucked up we want to get rid of. Gambling, they got to get this going. The gambling aspect of the USFL has to get going. Fox Sports put 150 mil into this league, three-year commitment.

I think it's at the very least going to be interesting with the XFL coming up next year. I think the XFL works. I worry this doesn't. I hope. I hope with everything. I have it doesn't. Too much. Everything in moderation. The chip in the ball at least gave us the tech mobile graphics on how short it was. Turnover on downs. You remember NFL Europe. That was popping when we were growing up. NFL Europe was popping. But did you ever really cozy up to TV to watch the NFL Europe? Of course not. Right. It's always a thing that you're like, I hear They're doing that over there. You know, you see enough people tweeting about the AFL a couple years back.

You're like, this is going to work. But the bottom line is for this league to survive, the ratings have to be good. They don't care about how many people are at that stadium in Birmingham. They don't care about selling tickets. It's not that game for them. It's about viewership. And if you look at this weekend, they talked about 3.5 million viewers. It's harder to pin down how many people are watching a streaming service deal,

because it's all about watching at the same time. they have those figures and they got to feel pretty good about 3.5 million people. I know there was a simulcast and everything but look at the things that they beat out last week with the USFL and I'm not trying to pedal hope.

I think that this podcast talks about USFL more than any other podcast and I'm on this podcast. Starting now. And I did not know that games were being played this weekend. So based off of you saying that you think the digital viewership strategy

is going to be better for the USF. SFL than selling tickets. Do you think that maybe they should have gone the route of the PLL, the pro lacrosse league, where they actually travel to different cities week to week? I think that would be pretty cool. Well, it's obvious

what they've done. They've said, fuck the carrying costs. We're just going to focus on the production value of this product. We don't care if there's seven people in the stadium. We don't care if it's raining on Eastern. We don't care if we have a weather delay. They do. They did care about that stuff. We don't care if the first game

last four hours without the weather delay, they were like, oh, we got to speed this dress rehearsal up. And they've only had camp for a month. Like, things are going to improve. The products can improve. And maybe this was the best time, spin zone here, this was the best time to roll out a shitty product that's a month old. And like, as far as like practicing, getting these guys going was with lesser people

like watching, like, there are fewer people watching these games. And that was this weekend. But I will tell you this, they beat out NBA playing games Tuesday and Wednesday. and then beat Sunday night baseball. They crush NHL nationally on TNT and ESPN. So it's TV and it's on. I think that's the question. We can't hold it to the NFL standard.

Football is king for sure. And I don't want to throw water on those ratings, but it's going to be hard to keep them up. Like if you look at the XFL in 2001 when it debuted, that was a huge event. Got a 9.5 rating, you know, approximately 10 million people, lost half its viewers by week two, lost another half its viewers by week three.

and then fade it out. And I think if it's going to maintain that type of viewership, you're going to need to have a large pool of people gambling on the outcome. And so we need more gambling. This is a boomerang week for them. But there is gambling. Yeah, right. It has gambling.

Yeah. No, but not everybody's carrying it right now. So there needs to be more gambling with the USFL. And like I said, one year is usually the time it takes for these things to go under. A lot in the same way, like week two, week three, as you just put it, are going to be like your more baseline, hey, where are we here with the ratings, kind of your expectation setting week?

And I'm pulling for the USFL. You know, obviously I have people that I know, like Fish, working in the USFL. You can send me as many links as you want. I'll never believe that they outdrew the NBA playing game, which were fun and, you know, good.

Right, but you're not obsessed with, like, football to the, There are a lot of people that are also. It was on Fox and NBC. Like that's just naturally going to draw a lot of individuals. Naturally. Naturally. Naturally.

Maybe 33 years from now, we're thinking of USFL on Easter like we once thought of NFL on Thanksgiving. There you go. NBA on Christmas. Actually last night on winning time. Which would make a lot of sense. We can just get through the master's. We're almost at the USFL. The resurrection of USFL on Easter.

They really heavy handed this this whole thing, didn't they? Maybe that was why they didn't get a lot of fans. Maybe the good people of the South, they're like, we're not, we don't like you playing with God like this. People never used to watch MBA on Christmas. It was considered a dead day. Like, why did his NBA play on Christmas?

Now it's just, this is another. And that is, if I'm not mistaken, Jesus's birthday. Right. Christmas. You see what this is the same thing. This is the lame stream media and this is woke culture

trying to shove it down our throats. Yep. you know, less religion, more sports. Oh, this is funny, though. Let me finish with this. Joseph Goodman said, written into the contracts that every block of TV will feature two commercials promoting Birmingham.

Is that incredible or what? Like, hello! So we are going to say hello to Birmingham today. We're finally gotten there. We took a while. But like, how about Birmingham? Fucking getting, you know, when you watch a college football game and you're like,

oh sure they do science at the university of Alabama sure there's people with lab codes down there sure you have fucking an astronomy department that's what's going on with Birmingham right now like sure there are things in Birmingham that I'd want to do I have nice things to say about Birmingham I've never been and I don't want to be I'm sure Birmingham's awesome

I'm just fucking around but it is funny that like you got the U.S. Taylor just came there You just you got the USFL as your board of tourism is essentially it. So somebody working conspiracy theory. Our fans are listeners, if you're on the flight with us, come up to the cockpit and tell us what conspiracy you're peddling as it pertains to the fact that Birmingham is using the USFL as it's border tourism. Like what's going on in Birmingham that people care about?

so much. Why Birmingham? You know, Birmingham's good in inland. So if there's a hurricane coming, you can, you drive everybody drives to Birmingham. This is the rights acknowledgement of climate change. They're trying to build Birmingham into a coastal hub in 2060 when that's the beach. Speak of the devil, April 18th. It's snowing outside in the middle of Virginia. I'm just telling you, dude, Joseph Goebbin said, Arizona has the Cactus League. Florida has the grapefruit league. I don't see a reason why Birmingham couldn't be the permanent home of the spring football league. There's one big difference there.

And that's that I'm not going to see John Carlos Stanton fucking hitting a dinger in Birmingham. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. You know? Yeah. There's no fucking, I don't know these guys. And that's okay, but I don't know them. I'm going to the Cactus League because it's fucking Phoenix.

And I can see some guy that I watch on sports center every night hit dingers. Fucking, I can bring my kid to see Dingers for less money. It's sunny out. And the value is really high. I don't see, I mean, I'm rooting for the USFL, but Joseph Goodman, I don't know about that. Joseph Goodman. Yeah. As in Mary and Joseph.

This thing goes all the way to the top. Two problems. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. You're right. Two big problems here. Okay? This weekend, two negative things besides the quality of play it in some.

Shea Patterson. The guy getting cut over a slice of pizza. Did you see that over line item 46? And now that's an easy. That's just trying to get clicks. Did they just clip that guy for clicks? Yeah, dog. That's planned.

I thought it was the coach trying to like set some type of agenda or like set the toe. He's anti pizza. Apparently. He's pro chicken salad. Chicken salad's got mayonnaise. This is big mayonnaise, dude. This is big mayonnaise. He,

this fucking Heinz are one of these. Oh, there's the conspiracy. Yeah, it's big mayonnaise. This is big mayonnaise. Helmonds. Helmonds, dukes. Yeah, this is the first time a coach has ever cared about nutrition.

Was that what this coach was, or was it that the guy was being disrespectful? I feel like the guy, he was like, we're going to release you. And I'm just telling you, I don't have any time for an explanation. This is just what it is. And the guy was like, well, here's my perfectly logical explanation. They asked me if I would like chicken salad. I said, I don't eat chicken salad. Good on you, kid.

And they said, is that going to be a problem if I can't get your piece? And he said, yes, that was it. Let him tell it that was it. And I kind of believe the guy, because the coach just got up and left. So either this guy was like a legendary shithead, just berating the staff at the airport Hilton. They're like, hey, dude, you're in the USFL. You can't do that. I would say the same to Kirby Wilson, the coach.

Like, hey, dude, you're in the USFL. You can't cut somebody for no reason. Because they can't get pizza. And then the other. You need to be more woke. That's a plant. It's a plant story. Okay.

Well, he's getting obliterated for it online. You think to cover up for the big mannays. Ratings, ratings, ratings, ratings. You're right, mannics. Mannings and ratings. And then lastly, did you see the, one of these teams, the guy got knocked out on the field, like just blasted in the side of the head. He's taking a nap and they use the head exploding emoji.

Like, what a hit, head exploding. I'm like, yeah, his head exploded. He's making $17 an hour and his head exploded. And you decided to post this. Bro, like, I know we're cutting cause. but we don't need to fucking find a whino on the street to run your social media account, dude. It is absurd.

There was one emoji that you should. It was a lot like to bring it up again. The Houston Rockets guy, he did a gun and a horse emoji after they beat the Mavericks. That was like the two emojis you couldn't do. This guy, gal, whoever's running this account decided exploding head was a good thing. They want to talk about player safety, dude.

That's amazing. In fact, we would love to take over one U.S. NFL Twitter account for an afternoon if they would let us. We will talk so good. I'll tell you what we'll do. If you'll let me take over the USFL Twitter account of my choosing, preferably the Michigan Panthers, because Coach Fish, we have many TVs in this studio. I will run the USFL on every TV.

We will juice the fuck out of these ratings. I'll do that in perpetuity. I will run the USFL every week until year two, because you're definitely going to see year two. if I can run the Panthers or the mallers account one of these teams I want to run the breakers account are we saying it wrong

USFL stay woke useful for Birmingham it is useful for Birmingham for mayonnaise for mayonnaise for Jesus Mary and Joseph well

I call from Austin Texas hello I'm so sorry that that I have a, what's it called when a silent laugh. This would be so much better if I'd a loud laugh. It would. Because I'm laughing a lot. No, that's good.

It's just silent. You're a funny cat. Thank you. I mentioned this earlier today. The irony of you doing what you do for a living, you know, being like one of the best co-pilots in sports. Oh, thank you.

Yeah. Is laughing is a big part of that. Like, you know when they do the shapes that connect like a player attribute at like the combine like your laughter yeah you know how there's like agility blah blah blah blah blah like there's an acute triangle that just stems from the other two attributes and i don't even know how to describe that do you know the thing i'm talking about nope sure don't but i like you it's a skills grid it's a skill grid and his skill grid in this particular area the laughter everything else is like pretty good and then and then there's this giant fucking divit where the laughter is but the irony

is that when you got married you uh you planted a laugh yeah yeah yeah You were giving a speech and you told me to laugh at a very specific time and I did that for you. And would you just describe that as? And then when you came in to audition, the third day I was in here doing this fucking podcast, it was such a shit show. I don't even want to listen to one of those. And Macon was like, yeah, it was pretty good. Like you just really need somebody coming in and laugh at your jokes.

Yeah, that's the ironic part. They're both ironic. I can't laugh. And you can't laugh. Like I'll slap my knee genuinely. Yeah. It's a knee slapper. Yeah.

But my laugh is all. breathy and inside my body. Yeah. I'll try to do better. So lay up line today. Yeah, do that. All right. Lay up line today.

Hit us with it. Well, that's what they couldn't do last week. We lost the Calcutta bet somehow. We're not going to take people back on a fucking reading rainbow here on why we lost the, the Calcutta bet. I had one of the best scores, but I ended up getting help. to buy golf balls because I'm a real boss. So Makin and I went out there,

150 yards out at a park that won't be named and the guys hit golf balls at us for five minutes and we had to stay in this little dirt area. It was McIntyre Park. Somebody called the McIntyre Park. Cops. Ranger, maybe? Yeah, Ranger.

They have like kind of a park ranger even though there's nothing like park rangery that happens. I guess this is the most park rangery thing that happens. The most interesting part of the park ranger, though, is after he comes and politely asked us to stop spraying golf balls. He goes back to his minivan, grabs a skateboard, and he's right back to the half pipe. That guy was so cool. Shout out to that guy. Shout out to a little bit of a John O'Leary.

John O'Leary. Yes, John O'Leary vibe. That guy was like John O'Leary East. Yes. Shout out to John O'Leary, one of the OG producers on this show. So, hey, so anyways, I think we did pretty good. were ducking and dodging golf balls for five minutes, but not that much because they can't fucking hit him worth a damn, dude. They had me in the first half, I'm not going to lie.

Kyle's first shot almost hit me in the dome. Kyle's good at golf. Reed, I think he's good of golf, but I had to say for a day that he sucked to get in his head. I really, after that first near miss, I thought, oh, this is going to be a long five minutes. And then it really, it really wasn't so much. Kingston, are you doing okay? I know you had hurt your wrist and your back. He got hurt hitting the golf balls and we didn't get hurt at all. One guy got hurt, the guy hitting the balls. Yeah, strained wrist. Strain.

I was going with the volume over accuracy idea. I don't think so. I think when I think of a strain, I think more a muscle, not a, like a. Could he be talking about like tendons in there? I guess you could strain your tendon. Soar wrist. Okay, when in the back? Surprisingly nimble.

Oh, you're all right. Didn't lock up. Did you do that rest ice compression elevation? I was telling you about? No, I just drank heavily. and smoked a week. That's good. It's like an NFL player.

Get some rest, guys. Yeah, I'll be out till four in the morning. I'll be drunk tomorrow at the shakeout, dehydrate myself further. Cowboy Reed, how'd you like hitting golf balls at us? It was disappointing that you all didn't walk away with a mark or an ouchy,

but it was fun. I was hitting a pitching wedge, and then I realized it was too much hang time. You guys could watch it. And so I started... Well, here's the thing about us watching it, Reed. I don't know if you guys thought this through,

but you were hitting downhill at us. We can't see. It was very difficult. The golf balls. They're white. Even the ones that are yellow and orange, you can't see them. And so after about a minute, it became apparent to me that, like, if I was going to get hit, like, I was just going to get hit and not expected. Yes.

I was more judging off of where you were running a little bit. My mask would get, we had VESPA helmets on fogged up. Remember that one time? Yeah, I was a real bro. I turned my back to the balls. and I lifted up your visor so you could breathe. That was really cool, you man. Kind of like a Purple Heart sort of situation.

No question. You know? Same thing. Well, sort of. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you for your service. Just offended the Christians and the military today.

Who else is next? It's like a fly. Isn't that a Venn diagram that over last? That circle is. We've got some more in the read around the world, depending on where we go. Well, guys, this is what happens when we don't really have much going on. There's not a lot to talk about. in the sports world is we just turned to

offending people. Guys, we're going to talk about the NBA in a little bit with our guest, Darren Bates, former teammate of mine, one of the funniest guys I play with. Big Memphis Grizzlies fan. We're going to talk about, you know, the panic meter there. We'll talk about

Kyrie, Public Enemy Number 1, the middle finger. A couple of them. Look like. And then the no call on Janus was another big moment. Listen, we said this earlier. When it comes to Brooklyn and Boston. That was like one of those games that that was,

was even for non-MBA fans, probably a thing you tune in for. And Matt said he, his dad was watching and that's, for me, it was the same thing as like my dad and I were talking about that game. That's how you know it's a big sporting event. If you and your dad discuss it.

Yeah, definitely the first NBA game. He's watched this year, but that's how you know NBA season has started. They're not playing again until Wednesday. So that's game. one on Sunday, game two on Wednesday. That's a that's a coddled ass NBA schedule if I've ever heard one. Hear me out USFL. You could have done this little window. Back to back to back to back.

People pretend they like staying up late to watch football on Monday nights. Isn't that wild? They're staying in the same city. Sunday to Wednesday. This is crazy. Anyways, um we'll talk more about the NBA in a bit, among other things with Darren Bates to stick around for that. I mean, like, there's going to be a lot that comes up in that segment, read around the world. So, hey, before we get to Bates, did you see last night the Nuggets coach, Michael Malone, did the post-game press conference in the Grateful Dead t-shirt? No. So I didn't, because I'm not even going to pretend that I stay up late to watch the NBA. But the guy definitely smokes pot.

100%. Definitely smokes pot. It's a little bit of pandering. involved with wearing a Grateful Dead shirt like it can be i mean like i felt weird before i was a dead fan wearing a grateful dead shirt but i did it anyways because their shirts are fucking cool like who doesn't like tie-dye like tie-dye everybody likes tie-dye i don't i don't like tie-dye i don't like a stained glass but i don't like tie-dye we're talking about t-shirts yeah yeah yeah yeah like stained glass but think jesus is overrated that's interesting taylor that's really interesting dude no that's fair But did Jesus stay in the glass? Did Jesus?

I mean, I like churches. I like places of worship if they have some architectural integrity to them. So when it comes to Michael Malone. Formerly of Charlottesville, Virginia. Yeah, I heard you say that. He was director of ops there for a year under Pete Gillen. No fucking way. Friend of the program then maybe in the future.

Hey, Michael Malone, we used to live in the same town. Yeah. And we were wondering if you smoke pot. So like, judging by that Grateful Dead t-shirt, did it look like it had been worn? Yeah, it looked like it had been worn. And he lives in Denver, too.

He lives in Denver. And it was kind of like a cool Grateful Dead shirt. It wasn't like one that you got at Spencer's. It actually reminded me of the one that the Grateful Dead made for Lithuania in the 1992 Olympics. Lithuania didn't have a sponsor.

So the Grateful Dead actually sponsored them and created all of their, like, clothing and jerseys for the 92 Olympics. I think it was like a version of that. Wow, Grateful Dead. I asked you guys to put a little list together that the coaches in the NBA that you think current

like left-handed cigarettes. They smoke pot. The Phil Jackson Memorial Award. Yeah, the Phil Jackson list. Okay. Make, you want to go first? Sure, I'd love to. Coach Bud.

Last name is... Oh, that's good. Last name's Bud. coach bud and he's got you know beard old guy uh hair lines receding but he's still got the flow coming in the back uh cold in milwaukee he's from the popovitch coaching tree which from the pop tree feels like it leans that way and i feel like popovitch smokes pot why do you think they call him coach bud because of his last name you i think it's his last name but i think gregg proppovich it would make too much sense that coach pop i mean definitely coach pop old

NBA. Yeah, I got pop on my list. Definitely hung out with, and I don't even want to call it Phil Jackson Award. I want to call it Don Nelson Award. Don Nelson. Don Nelson is like the head, dude. Don Nelson came back looking so fucking cool after a few years away from

the NBA. He even has a pop for him. You know, I think Greg Popovich needs to fucking relax sometimes, so he, you know, he'll go home and relax. Big red wine guy, too. I got Jason Kidd on my list, just because he's got a lot

of stuff he wants to forget about okay uh i'll give you a former point guard Steve Nash here's why met him in Manhattan Beach he was chill okay checks out I'm just saying I'm not saying I smoke pot with him but I just saw him in the street and he was just walking around the street kind of had vans on and shit like he was cool he was like cool Manhattan Beach dad this was before he became with some Canada thrown in and some Santa Clara people started to scapegoat him for for for Durant and Kyrie not playing great in the fourth quarter or whatever it was was last night. Now they're talking about

is the coach the problem. I'm like, they picked the coach, man. No, that's a good one. They said they don't need a coach.

Steve Nash, number one on my list. Not number one. He's up there. I'll take another guy that used to live in Charlottesville. Rick Carlisle. Yes, sir.

He met his wife at a Grateful Dead concert. That was their first date. He got, he got tickets from Bill Walton. Okay, Rick Carlisle definitely smokes. Is this made up?

Copious and out of marijuana. There's more. He actually got the tickets from the dead's manager named Ramrod, who's pretty famous. Ramrod, gave him the tickets? Yeah, he's been friends with Bruce Hornsby since 87, has played on stage with Hornsby a number of times. This guy reeks of marijuana, dude. Yeah, he also recent, or not that recently, but went on stage with Darius Rucker and played with Hootie and the Blowfish at one point.

Holy shit, Rick Carlisle, dude. All vibes. Oh, yeah. And I know he's a NBA guy, and I've always wanted to like him, but, you know, This is, yeah, come through Studio J, Rick. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Don Nelson certified. Okay.

Give me Dwayne Casey. So Dwayne Casey, 1994 to 2005, I believe he was radicalized in Seattle, coaching Sean Kemp. I think he used to go down under the space needle and just get fucking rocked. I don't get pothead from Dwayne Casey. He wasn't on my big board, but I could see it. I'll take Steve Kerr. Yeah, Steve Kerr's there.

He's got mad back problems. He lives in San Francisco. Played for Phil Jackson. Played for Phil Jackson. Also, I always like to remind people rode a jet ski with Steve Kerr. Hopefully he wasn't high when he was driving the jet ski. That would have been irresponsible.

I rode behind him, dude. I held him to Steve Kerr when I was a kid. Like dumb and dumber, dude. How about Eric Spolstra always looks high? I had Pop, Bud, Carlisle Spow, kid. But I was the least sure of Eric Spolstra. I also have Nick Nurse and Tyron Loo here.

But give me whoever coaches the Sacramento Kings. Because they're coaching the Sacramento King. Currently he's not even there, which is a common characteristic of potheads. I feel like they have to drug test the Sacramento Kings coach. And then if he doesn't, if he passes the drug test, they're like, sorry, it's not going to work out here. Like you have to be on drugs to coach in Sacramento, period. and then the fact that the team is not great.

Luke Walton and alumnus of that position. Luke Walden, definitely, dude. Definitely. I actually saw a crazy stat about the Kings the other day. Like, you remember they used to have that coach named Rick Adelman? Yeah, hell yeah. They forget. They have not had a winning season outside of Rick Adelman coaching since like the 1980s.

Jesus. Like they've only had winning seasons in that brief period where he was. coaching the like Weber Stoyakovich. Somebody needs to study Rick Adelman. That's right. The must bus was a coach in Sacramento. That's wild. Hope you like sports. We're talking about them all. So.

Cotton Fitzsimmons. I had a cotton fit Simmons card. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who didn't? Coach Quinn Snyder looks like he might do all of the drugs. Well, we started talking about whether or not Quinn Snyder smoked weed, but then we kind of transitioned to whether or not he was hot. Yeah, Ken Tremendous put out a Twitter poll over the weekend. Quinn Snyder.

About 10,000 votes, hot or not, Quinn Snyder. Quinn Snyder got a little, if we're casting him, it's getting a little Ray Leota toward the end of Goodfellas, look to him. See, it's funny because he, Quinn Snyder has always looked to me like a guy who should be in like one of these, I don't know, not no country for old men

what's the one with the oil tycoon he should be uh all they will be some there will be blood there will be blood he looks like there will be blood

listen we've all seen the movie yes we all like the movie but there will be blood he looks like he should be like a guy who sells Bibles in Kansas circa 1903 and he's got like hell of demons and he's going to meet Daniel Day Lewis like I never consider

that he is an attractive person. I just thought he was cast directly out of one of those types of movies. He does not look like a mafia guy. It's interesting. You said mafia guy, I think Daniel Day Lewis movies. Yeah.

Gangs of New York. Fucking just came in town from Illinois. Official ruling Quinn Snyder? Hot. The way I look at this is like, but I feel threatened by Quinn Snyder. if he walked into a room. You bet your ass.

Start talking to my wife. Not at all. You bet your ass. Not at all, bro. He looks mad in all his pictures, dude. Brooding is a look. Brooding. You can say that again.

No offense to Quinn Snyder. I'm, you know. Yeah, I'm a big no offense guy. That's part of the reason why I went hot. You went, you went, Jesus overrated Quinn Snyder hot to avoid criticism. You're fucking, you hate God, dude. No, no, no.

I'm joking. Love God. What do you say we get Darren Bates on here and have a good time? I started taking athletic greens because I wanted to see what all the hype was about. With one delicious scoop of athletic greens, you're absorbing 75 high-quality vitamins, minerals, whole-foods source superfoods, probiotics, and adaptogens. This special blend of ingredients supports your gut health, your nerve, nervous system, your immune system, your energy, recovery, focus, and aging. To make it easy,

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dude. Batesi, you got to feel like you just, you went through a lot, like being a Grizzlies fan for a long time, but now they're good and they're cool. And you can actually be a, like you're not a bandwagon fan.

How does it feel? And should you be panicking after the first game? Well, first of all, take off from the first game. Yeah, been a grizzan fans, and they got to Memphis Day one shit.

But they, this is probably, this is the most exciting team. We have some good team with Z-Bow, Margisaw, Paul Gasol, you know, Tony Allen, all those guys. But, you know, those are the Gritty and Grind days when they play slow ball. They just beat people up. You know, we still like that, you know, being from Memphis, you like that type of ball. You know, we still got the name, The Grind House and shit like that. So this team, though, you know, high flying, running up and down the court, you know, not scared to nobody, never backing down.

got one of the best, you know, Hoopers in the game right now on our team, you know, coming up with, you know, other young guys. It's fun to see them ball. Before the series started, when I found out they were playing Minnesota, I said there'll be a gentleman's suite. You can't have a gentleman's sleep if you don't lose one game. There you go. So we just made it interesting.

You lose one game. You know what I said? We took the one at home. Say, fuck it. We make a little more interesting. Take the L at home. So then we just win everything else on the road. Come back to Memphis for that last one.

You know, game five. and we'll take that on end. That's an interesting strategy, the gentleman sweep. It involves like you got to be real, you got to have balls to do a gentleman sweep because you got to go down 01. So you got to go down. Well, this is not the first time.

This is not the first time in Grisysh history. We've been down, oh, anything. We were down 02 to the Senate of the Spurs. And they'll beat them in seven. And they're going to the West Conference farmers. Actually, that was a thunder. But yeah, this is nothing new to us, man. we've been around the playoffs we run around these big games basketballs that's what we do with

memphis and we support this team and i think the boys gonna have a chance to to make somebody a series now the timber wolves they're some serious i like after the hells i really that's my first time seeing i play a full game instead of the highlights and that boy can ball love that dude that fucking guy seems cool as shit too he's funny he's cool his head he's smooth he's got like we did our all vibes team last week he was my first pick thank you very much yeah i i i Tyrese Maxie, All Honorable Mention. Okay, okay. Okay, somebody snags.

He had a good game, too. Somebody snag Stephen Adams, your guy, who has great vibes, dude. When I met Stephen Adams, he was so fucking cool. Okay, weigh in for us on one thing on the All Vives team while we have you here. Again, the podcast is Raw Room. It's fucking awesome. And Darren Bates is awesome. So go check that out.

I'm looking at my All Vives team. I see that probably the most controversial pick is Trey Young. Does Trey Young have good vibes or bad vibes? I'm fucking with Tray Young vibes Anytime you go Because he has good vibes That's why

He literally has half the NBA fans Mad of him Exactly And he just come out and give All he's doing is whooping the ass Like All he's doing is a whooping the head Is he is all he doing

Whopin ass Darren Because I had quite a I was highly leveraged On the Hawks first quarter Hawks first half And Hawks plus seven Just the other day And they got whoops

And Trey thought, hey, it's going to come around at some point. You're part of the 95%. He will not stop shooting. He's just one way or another. Okay. Score 50 if you stop shooting. So you're going to let this thing real. That's what I always say.

Who's your favorite grizzly in the non-jaw division? Desmond Bang. Yep. He's going to put his three-pointed. I just like the way he hoop. I like Dillon Brooks too, though. Dylan Brooks all-around game. Play defense is going to take it to the rat.

I used to be a big Triple J fan, man. I don't know. Trouble and paralyzed? No, that is. Triple J. Jaron Jackson. Junior,

Triple J. You know, we had to call him Triple J. Everybody's got to have a nickname on the Memphis team. It's like a... You got to. Yeah, yeah.

So wait, tell me this. You were a youth in Memphis walking around, fucking... 10 feet off of Beal. Do you... 10 feet off of Beal. Does he know where that's from?

Yeah. He laughed. Okay. Well, he's laughing maybe because he's like, what the fuck is this guy talking about? Yeah, I ain't gonna lie because I was like 10 feet off. No, I'm on deal. It's from a country song. Walking in Memphis. Oh, well, hell, no. See, okay, I know your Goddy version. Your God has got a walking in Memphis version. Does he really? It comes out with a walking in Memphis. That's how all the reason I know that song.

Did it sample walking in Memphis? They sampled it. Yeah, he sampled it. And then he just got on rap. Now Batesy's end of the deal is he's got to go listen to walking to Memphis and you got to go listen to Yo Gotti. Okay, deal. I guess I don't understand the lyric 10 feet off of Beal. Like is he high as a kite? Is he on the sidewalk? I think he's just, he doesn't want to be in the fucking street.

Well, them side streets 10 feet off a bill, them side streets where you can get some, you know, purchase some activities. Oh. Or. Or. Oh. Oh. Oh. Who sung the song again?

Mark Cohn wrote it. But who sung. the song. I think of walking Memphis. I think of Lone Star. Who sung the song? He just said it. Lone Star. Who sung the song? Walking in Memphis. Mark Cone. No, he was trying to fill his cone, dude. Two zigzags.

Yeah, he was, he was over the raw cones or the leading cone manufacturers. He saw zigzag cones on my table. He's like, that's where that's from. I said, well, zigzags are usually just papers, but they came out with cones. It's very smart of them. But I think whoever wrote Walking to Memphis was buying drugs. Mark Craig Cone.

That's what that song's about is buying drugs. That's what it is. Okay, so you were walking in Memphis and let's say you ran into Zbo when you were a kid. Do you have any great Zbo stories? Because I feel like Zibo is a local legend. Like people tell me like all types of, I saw Zibo here. He was doing that. Do you have any Zbo memories?

As a kid, I didn't meet him as a kid, but I did meet him. 2019. I had one of my football camps here in Memphis. with the Titans, I bought a whole bunch of guys down from the Titans. We came down on my count. We go to the strip club. We're probably about 15 deep. That's how you got to.

Guys on the team and then guys are from the city. So we got friends and my teammates. We go on to the strip club. And here goes, one of my lovely daughters. This is many years ago. This is many years ago. Yeah. So then we are.

We in the strip club, man. and Zibo, one of my, Zbo's go talk to somebody that knows me, man. He come over, show me love, give me a little Tony Allen in there, and we just daffered it up and, what's that, son? Ice cream. You did what? Ah, you got ice cream.

Yeah, bro, yeah, it was fun in the strip club, man, wait before I had all these kids. Well, hey, you know, Makin only goes to strip club one deep. Well, hey, I didn't be in one deep. before, but when you go one deep, you must be up to something. I'm just joking. He doesn't even go. He's turning beat red because he's imagining

people hearing that he goes to a strip club. It's not true. He's never been to a strip club. Nah. We'll start read around the world right now. Cowboy, you want to kick it off? Kyrie has become a villain to some. Who are your personal sports villains? Well, first off, I want to like, Kyrie, is he a villain?

Yes. Bates? In the best of ways. He only, he only a villain to to some people. I feel like the only built to like teams he left

and anybody's anti I mean all the vaccinators those are people that don't like Kyrie. What about people who love like the roundness

of the earth? Like and those people so every explorers. I think they hate Kyrie I think they just like

laughing. So here's the deal with Kyrie. He's very good at this like he's found a way to really get hated

by a lot of people who's got white people. he played in Boston and then he left and he like he stomped on that logo okay okay okay okay but hear me out duke stink hear me out duke stink he's also got why duke though because he went to duke because he didn't play not because he went there he went to duke and everybody hates dude can't be so you've got anybody that hates duke anybody in boston uh a lot of white people just because and then a lot of white people that usually would have his back because of the vaccine

thing. So like, it's just been a really complicated, you know, like a hate, a hate stew with Kyrie Irving. And he's been able to pull it off. And like, he really doesn't seem like it bothers him. Like, I will say this. I disagree there. I will, I'm sure it bothers. No, I don't think it does. But I don't, not in the way that he's going to flash out like some Kanye West shit. Like, I like the way he doing it. Flick him off behind the head. You know, the, I like this. Isn't the cool move to put on blinders and have it not bother you not hear it i get it but i love katy and one of my favorite things about katy is he will clap back at somebody so i'm not going to be unfair to karee just because his way isn't maybe my way

like my way would be more katy and some people would be like well why are you on twitter like fuck like whatever dude you're in my mentions i'm gonna argue with you like i'm normal and that's like katy to me the greatest thing about kd is he'll forget he's katy sometimes and that's fucking awesome we should all forget we're whoever we are if we have a blue check by us on twitter so But I say that and say I'm not going to judge Kyrie for lashing out in any way I will say this though like Kyrie last night I was like dude you lost like you know I mean like all that sounds good and you know all that same energy talk but like ultimately you lost now he's fucking awesome he never he never lets it show in his game like he never

he never chokes he never like turns the ball over a bunch I don't know I don't watch the NBA as much as you Matt but he's one of the most skilled players in the history of the game yeah so like to me it doesn't affect his play I definitely agree with you but I also think that when it comes to the antics that people do or players do like Pat Bell. And that's my problem. I've been arguing with people, my own co-hosts and shit about the Pat Bell and Kyrie Irvin. The reason I don't have a problem with Kyrie Irvin, like you said, you might not did it that way. And I might have, I might have did it both ways, Twitter and on the court.

But at the same time, I feel like if you're ball and if you're doing your job, what you're supposed to do, you can do everything you want to. Carree still gonna give your ass bucket. Pat Bev, my problem, Pat Bev is, my fucking, whoever they play gave his ass, sporty something. And you're up here drinking the bud, like,

talking about, yeah, we're going to, man, that's been trashed for a while. It's been going on for a while. That's why you're on your, what,

15 and three years been like, come on, bro, give it up. And you're ever celebrating the playoffs, like you just won the division. Cut it out. I don't know basketball enough to co-sign, but this is spicy.

No, I know it enough to know that if you ain't doing your job. What's you know for playing defense, right? Getting on the motherfuck guy ass. Being a supporter, a leader for your team. And you're not doing that when you, the dudes you guard or you, you know what I'm saying?

The second car, whoever is giving your ass buckets. It don't work like that. Not to me. Dennis Robinson can wear dresses. Go take Vegas trip right before game six, seven, or whatever it is, because he'll come out there and give you 30 separate rebounds, 17 charges, uncounted for hustle points. And we all go like, hey, he balls.

Yeah. Don't matter. But to me, You just got to... No, you make a great point. And I'm not saying that like a middle... When I think of Kyrie, though, that doesn't even seem like Kyrie middle fingers. Like, that actually seems more like something I might slip up and do. I'm saying like Kyrie's whole persona is just a little different to me. It's super out there.

Yeah, the sage and all that stuff. Yeah, it's great point. Like, that's what I mean. Like, the middle finger's more, I can kind of get down with that. And that's why I'm saying... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't fucking care about a middle finger anymore, dude. Like, we got to stop.

if your kid knows what it means somebody taught him like fuck he's gonna hear worse she or she's gonna hear worse it's like if you at home are offended by you know exactly what it means dude it's not a big deal dude it's not a big deal

that's how I feel about a curse word worst ever villains so I'll go John Rocker Fuzzy Zeller No Carlos Boozer honestly fucking guy stared me down when I was 14 I always tell this story

guys I had like good seats at a Virginia game Went with my friend and Carlos Boozer comes down the aisle after game after they just beat the shit out of us and I was like you're ugly and he just like got in my face bro like kind of like took a step towards me and ice grilled me and like kind of like it was huge and he was older than me about a couple years So I'm not gonna lie. I was kind of like damn dude. I wish I didn't say that and then when I was playing for the Rams and we were in Arizona on a two day trip And we were saying at the Ritz Carlton and Phoenix I was riding in the elevator with three of my teammates I on the way down to our meal, like pregame meal. And we were laughing about something. And Carlos Boozer was on the elevator.

He got on the elevator. I'm like, fuck, it's Carlos Boozer. Hope he doesn't remember me from the stadium. And he didn't, of course. And fucking, we're laughing about something. We're joking. We're yucking it up like we do on the fucking ride. And by the way, we're 2 and 14.

So we have to laugh. So we get off the elevator. I come up to my fucking, my other friend who was in the hall, He was like, did you see who just walked by? We were on the elevator room. That was Carlos Boozer. He said, yeah, Carlos Boozer was walking by talking to a buddy saying those fucking losers for the Rams are 2 and 14.

They shouldn't be laughing about anything. Oh, shit. So he's like my fucking nemesis, bro. Carlos Boozer, ugly jump shot, but very good player. I'll give you your respect. Remember that time? You remember that time he painted his head? Oh, yeah.

No, dude. What color? Black. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, the Beijing. That shit was paint. Dude, is that the same stuff guys use on their beards and on their hairline and he just painted the whole thing? Yeah. He just did the whole head. Dude, and I don't want this to turn into a Carlos Boozer session because I respect the fuck out of the guy, dude.

He's from Alaska. He made the NBA, and he was a great player in the NBA. He's from Alaska, bro. You know you're great when they find you in Alaska. Bring you to Duke. Hell yeah. I don't know. Maybe that's just where he was.

born and I saw his Wikipedia from Anchorage He had a A rebuilding like that myself I don't know I don't like Floyd Mayweather I don't like Floyd Mayweather I don't like Floyd Mayweather because he makes

every fucking boxing match like all the boxing matches that we grew up watching we had to suffer through him just like I know he's an amazing boxer but like I do want to see people just just go in there and bronze bomber it Like, you know, like I want, but that ain't his style. I get it.

I respect it. All right. How about the women beating thing, dude? Okay, I don't like him for that reason either. But I just don't like Floyd Mayweather, dude. I agree with you on never. I can agree with your level. Yeah, but people just kind of act like it didn't happen.

But like, I just think, yeah, I've watched. I've paid for a lot of fights that he made really unintertaining as a, as a 20-some-year-old. And I, and I just want my money back. I got one for you. Well, right now he's actually trying to do a deal with AB, Antonio Brown. He said that for $20 million, if anybody signed Antonio Brown, time for $20 million, he'll be problem-free. If he gets in any trouble or any problems, then Mayweather and his staff will be given the team,

the organization, $20 million. Hold on. Match me to that. Do you understand that? What is it? I'm saying that, like, I just saw it on Twitter right before I came on. he's saying like mayweather's camp saying they'll guarantee Antonio Brown's contract they'll saying he'll be a good player and be a good teammate and if he's not but it's 20 oh wow yeah

that is really interesting I that if I'm a if I'm a GM and the organization or owner I'm I might take that but do you think that what you're doing if you take that is you think that Antonio Brown cares about Floyd Mayweather's money that to me is that to me is the deterrent is like, what's the difference to... But let's just in a vacuum. Okay. Because I don't get a fuck about that. They act like it's not real every year.

But it is very real. It comes back to haunt you eventually for now. But like Antonio Brown, I don't think if he was making $20 million of like of Floyd Mayweather's money last year, he wouldn't have done the same thing, you know, against the Jets. I just think Antonio just, he's going to do what he wants to do. You think he cares that much about Floyd?

No Yeah, see Once you think it through It's like that sounds good But fuck Yeah It sounds good But it's like

He's just not the type of me That's like cares about anybody In a respectable And a bad way I agree with you Because it's only fair That we've met these people in person You know

To call him a villain Two big beeholes That I met In the same day Richie incognito Can't stand the man And Ben Raffusberger Was a punk ass

All right, man. No, two villains. Two sports villains. Okay. Who's rooting for Ben Rothesburger? You act like Ben Rathesburger threw you through a fucking chair. I just probably he didn't ask you a follow-up question. What was it?

No, bad vibe. Bad vibe. But incognito ripped my shirt. He's a meatball. Hey, nice to meet you. Your shirt's ripped. Fuck it. Have a nice night at this concert.

You got a ripped shirt. It's not great, dude. It's not great. It's not great. Okay. Reed, you're up. Bullie. Chris Paul is trying to win his first ring at 37 years old.

He scored 19 points in the fourth quarter in the Suns game one victory. Who are the oldest athletes you've pulled forward to win their first title? It's funny because all the people Chris Paul's age were asleep for sure by the time he scored 19 points in the fourth quarter. I was. Absolutely. And that's the ultimate irony is that nobody that really respects Chris Paul on a level that like a 37-year-old would. saw it other than Ryan Rusillo because he was awake and he worships

him but I love CP3 I don't know about you Bates but I'm really pulling for this dude to get a ring if your guys don't get a ring let me just say that yeah I really don't care about CP3 no I don't a Phoenix signs hater I hate on them

fuck though just because last year started last year when they got their little player and they got to the championship of the finals you know I was just fucking around with a Tony Jefferson and his Phoenix Sun's fans, and they all got real sensitive. I saw it, like, disrespectly sensitive.

So I ran it back again this year. You know, same old shit. I hit them with all, where did all these Suns fan come from? You know, they came hitting the mention, hitting the mention. And so, yeah, that's why I just, fuck them all.

They don't get shit. I'll get all into the finals again and lose. They're going to be like the Buffalo bills of the NBA. Get three straight, lose them all. The Buffalo Bills of the NBA. I think he beefs with Sun's Twitter.

I beef with Dolphins Twitter. What you beef with Dolphins Twitter for? Because I said Tua doesn't have a good arm. You ain't say nothing. I wish more people their NFL players were on the podcast more often.

That should be the first question whenever we have an NFL guest on. How good is Tua's arm on a scale of 1 to 10 so that these motherfuckers can get in their mentions? Okay. It's my fault Bates. I went on ESPN and fucked it all up.

I said it. Okay, so anyways, I like two of though, but he just, his arm's not great. Okay, I have for you, Junior Seyau and Randy Moss when they were on the Patriots, dude. Neither of them had a ring. And the Giants fucked that all up. Your Giants. Yep. I was rooting for them not, not to get a ring.

Kind of fucked up. Yeah. How about the chief, Robert Parrish? Your guy who went to where you have? UNC. UNC. Tony Gonzalez. he played in Atlanta late

he didn't get a ring and I remember being a kid rooting for Charles Barkley and they lost to the fucking jazz they lost to Carl Malone fuck Carl Malone yeah okay fuck Carl Malone yeah so fuck Carl Malone for me it was always A.I. Alan I was Alan I mean too I was just about to say

me was Alan Iverson yep and then Carl Malone got his karma when he went to L.A because that super team didn't work out no I'm glad they lost that shit Have you always hated Carmelode or was this just an adulthood thing? A lot of people grew up loving. I knew I didn't like him when he was playing. He had the fat-ass elbow pads on his wrist.

I was like, well, that shit trash as far. You ugly hair. And I was ever since then, I just didn't like his head. And now I definitely don't like his head. This fuck called wrong. He didn't have thick wristbands. Yeah, fuck him and his thick wristbands. Yeah, yeah.

I feel like we need never want to shit. We worry a lot about fucking, what's his name, the hockey player rolling up on this studio. Carl Malone might roll up on this fucking studio, dude. Carl Malone, he might be one. He might, him and what's, he got into it with Matt Barnes and him. Oh.

Played, overall, the first round, do I pick for the Lakers? Oh, yeah, yeah. I'm not, hey, listen. Nope, I know exactly what he's talking about. I'm not saying his name. You don't fuck with him, bro. Hell, nah.

He will pull. He will pull up my Wikipedia. He'll know everything negative about me. He'll be in the back of his sedan. He'll be in the sedan, bro, just like, I don't, you know, I'm not even saying his name, dude. Who are y'all talking about? Don't worry about it. Nope.

Javar's Crittenden? Don't worry about it, bro. Okay. You don't want that smoke. He will fuck you up, dude. He will come in here and peace. He'll come into your real estate office and just start fucking piecing everybody. Just beating everybody up, dude.

and then he'll get to you and he'll make you flinch and he'll just walk out and call you a whole ass motherfucker like dude is that not what he would do we're not saying his name dude yeah no i'm like you're trying to think of his name when his when his trading card came up in one of the packs that my kids got i just i just was like nope i just gave it to somebody else dude i don't even want his trading card in my house I don't even want to Fuck Hey Oh that's no

Yeah No You don't know who we're talking about No The wizards come on TV I just turn it off You have Okay

He probably He probably Rives with salami down Oh really? Yeah Huh Okay I'm on it now Mace

Look out He's behind you What if he's just On your porch bro Like Jason, Friday the 13th, or Halloween. Yeah, dude. Oh, it's scary.

All right. Scary, because he'll embarrass you and maybe beat you up. All right. For real. And then talk about it on the podcast. He might be the biggest sports villain of all time. 30 years later. Oh, my God.

All right, go ahead, Reed. A protester chained herself to the basket in Memphis during their game one matchup against Minnesota. This protest comes on the heels of glue lady at the last Timberwolves game. What would your NBA protest be? Oh, man. First of all, first of all, when that shit happened at the game, bro, you know, it's Memphis, but we all in that genre thing like, oh, they got to fight.

Oh, they're going to go to their fight. That's what we thought it was. Yeah. Everybody else sitting by and like, oh, I know somebody fighting over there. And we just see some white lady. He was like, hold on, I know, nobody fight. They picked that ass up like some suitcase, right? I don't know.

Everybody starts clapping. Yeah. Get my ass out of here. That's so good. So that was the lady yesterday. That was the game one lady. What did you think about glue lady, though? Glue lady.

That was crazy. You're going to glue yourself? That just sounds stupid as hell. I get the chain. That's maybe. But you try to glue yourself, bro. That's stupid. What would your protest be, Meg?

I bring spray paint out. Yeah. And start, like, drawing a bunch of, color in a bunch of different three point lines all over the place. Like that's going to be a mess. That's going to be hard to fix. Free throw line, 13 feet out. Whatever my cause is all over, mid-court.

Realty. Yeah, my little. That's a good one, though. That's a good one. Yeah. That's a problem. That's going to be a problem. Yeah.

I mean, even if you went and shattered the glass, they got another hoop in the back. That's a problem if you mess up the court. Yeah. That's good. That's really good. Okay. We saw Christian musicians take over a flight with music this weekend. What is your personal nightmare aboard an airplane?

Okay. That, like that. Just like having to smile during a musical performance is not good or somebody doing something in front of me. I didn't see a whole lot of smiles. Did you see the people on the plane listening to the... Yeah, one nobody really smiling. And it was like, man, we all shut the fuck up.

Exactly, dude. And I know, like, I get the, this, I get what Elaine Omar was asking when she was like, what if this was Muslim music? I'd be like, respectfully, I would tell them to shut the fuck up, too. Like, anybody playing music on the plane, I don't care what religion, I don't care what genre of music. Like, I do not perform for me when I'm, when I'm boarded a plane. Don't do that.

I would say, it doesn't really matter. I would say like somebody who talks through my earphones obviously is going to be a problem. That's a nightmare. Like you put your earphones on, you settle in, the person's still talking. That's going to be a problem. That's a nightmare for me. Somebody being impatient with kids, I don't care if they're my kids, or they're somebody else's kids. If you're on a flight with me and you get really mean to a kid that's crying or a mom of a kid who's crying, they'll need a fucking air marshal.

Like they're going to need an air marshal, dude. Yeah. Because I will fuck you up. I will fuck you up on an airplane. I guess I really do mind having being forced to land because you're beating somebody up for being mean to a kid. And then I don't get to my destination. And I'm sure somebody's going to write a think tank piece about why it was problematic for me to beat the person up because it took away the woman's agency. I don't give a fuck.

Listen, I will assault you on an airplane if you're mean to. Forget my kids, bro. I'm going to jail, dude. I'm not just going to Lincoln, Nebraska when we were supposed to go to Denver. I'm going to jail, dude. Do not be mean to kids. Everybody on the fucking plane was a kid at once. And if you were so fucking rich and successful, I don't even care if it's first class, okay?

If you're that rich and successful, fly private. If not, shut the fuck up, grab your peanuts and get comfortable. And this kid's going to cry for a while. I hate that shit, dude. I got worked up here. no peanuts that's a problem that'd be problematic

an emotional support peacock I hate people that talk across to each other I hate people that talk across me that I hate that shit I will tell you shut the fuck up I will be like I can't y'all can text each other I don't mind shut the fuck up though you'll do it?

You'll say it? Yeah I'll tell people I can y'all relax language the right letters I don't give a fuck don't talk across from each other. My kids are going to start thinking that they can do that shit. Man, they'd be getting loud because they're loud. And then I'm beating up somebody for yelling at your kids.

Exactly. And now we all got a problem. Bang. Hung over window seat, nightmare. Joe Biden's press secretary, Jen Saki, is resigning. Do you have any out-of-the-box ideas to replace her? So basically who needs to give us the news? Go ahead.

Most deaf. You know what most of them? That's a hell. Yes, dude. Great job. Tremendous. Run it. That's a great answer.

That's the only good answer. I thought I had a good answer. Do you remember when John Sina told America or the wrestling fans of America? This clip went viral yesterday. And it is one of the most incredible videos I've ever seen.

John Sina in the middle of a fucking wrestling match, circa whatever year that was, 2012, 11, telling people in maybe Indiana somewhere, hate to interrupt the wrestling match, but we just killed Osama bin Laden. Hey, hey, dude. And, like, people were

going nuts, dude. And then the craziest part was, like, John Cena was like, you know, like, nose breathing and, like, nodding and, like, flexing. Like, he killed Osama bin Laden, bro. And he was just nodding his head as people were cheering And they were like, yes, John Cena! And he was like, yes.

And John C. Mark Wahlberg, say if he would have been on the flight of 9-11, that she would have went down different. Yes. I think he's, that's what Mark Wahlberg. Bro, he left, no offense. He left the Patriot Super Bowl that I was in early because we were down.

You think he would have killed a terrorist in real time? He couldn't sit through a 28 to 3 football game, dude. Hey, he wouldn't have been able to come to any of our games in St. Louis. That's just the fucking first quarter. Talking about a fucking... I don't know if he'd beat the guy up who's yelling at the kids, let alone a fucking terrorist. He pulled the emergency door on.

Hey, I was in a shooter. That's a big question. Would you be... Would y'all really, if the plane going down, you're on the exit emergency road, would you be... Will you really do what they ask you? I got a confession to make. I'm not quite sure about the emergency door. Is that now, does the slide roll out of the emergency door?

Yes. But if we're at 30,000 feet, I'm just slide now? I would definitely do it, but I'd definitely be like, y'all know this isn't going to matter, like, but I'm going to do this. But then we just jump out? We don't have parachutes. You grab the flotation device and jump? Hope you hit water?

No, you're right, because at that point we've already landed, right? We've already hit the water. like we've already not Captain Phillips who's the other guy Sally who's not a good movie no offense Tom Hanks who watched that way was Tom Hanks in that movie yeah it's not a good movie but if we land in the Hudson we got a shot great but like we land somewhere where like you know I don't know I'll do it but not with a smile on my face

yeah I'd be like hey let's I'll do it unenthusiastically it's like what coach is like hey you want to go out of there in the third preseason game you want to get some action in third quarter like I'll do it like that like I will do the I'll do it like that I mean coach I ain't going to say no I mean

I don't want to sound flippant about this but I might say let's make sure they're serious let's give another minute it might just be messing around no question because if we open this door there's no pulling it back in how do we get here Mark Wahlberg John Sina

press secretary Press secretary. You have a press secretary? It's chalky, but the best press conference guys, Beast Mode. I'd like to hear the world's news from Beast Mode. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Shout out to Beast Mode. He just bought a hockey team. Yeah. Cracking.

For real? Yeah, dude. Hey, that's live. Yeah, it's really fucking awesome. He was out on the Zamboni just like you was at Cal with the easy go, dude. He was out on the Zamponi. He was whipping the Zamvoni, dude. Like, Marshaun-Li. On the ice? Yes, Marshawn Lynch is that, well, that's the only place of Zamboni.

So we got to catch you up on Zambonies. We saw you at a Predators game. Okay, so I ain't know that was the real name of it. Yeah, yeah. I ain't know that was the real name of it. The ice driver. The ice driver, he was out on the ice driver, Batesi, and he was just doing donuts like he was at Cal and his easy goal. What a perfect life that guys lived in like a great way.

Hell yeah. He deserves it. Hell yeah. Fucking deserves it. Hell yeah. Yeah, John Cena. press secretary. Last night, Tucker Carlson became a pitchman for testicular tanning.

What do you make of this? I read up on that. And it's, it was some, so it was some, some stuff pointed out. I had to get my phone out and text somebody, Wilcox. Because Wilcox did, does the red light there, and shit. Because you remember he tried to give me to do it one time and train a camera. I was like, uh-huh. But the, the turns that they were speaking on, it was like,

light therapy, the biopathy, whatever fuck. And I feel like white people have been doing this for a while. Y'all been tanning for a long time. Yes. So I don't understand how your balls ain't been tanning there. That's what I'm saying. My thing on Tucker Carlson is this. It's this part of a greater like

masculinity is at risk right now. Like all the liberals are messing it up. Like you know, Trump is the perfect man. He's like a god. I can't finish the segment with his dick in mouth like that whole thing but like I remember the good old days when you just laid in the fucking backyard naked like Mike hancho that's how a red-blooded american gets a tan on their

fucking ball sack and I don't know if Tucker Carlson being a coastal elite that he is living in Manhattan he's just surrounded by concrete buildings his fucking little tiny side yard I have a big boy yard Tucker uh I'm a red-blooded American I'm gonna go in my backyard and I'm going to let the sun the natural sun hit my ball You got to fucking create all this infrared technology to do that. You're a B. Tucker. But I feel like that's the thing that's up with men these days. It's like the BBL ladies, you know.

That's what men are into now. You got the BBL for men hair and stuff. They got whole hair transplant now for men. They got abs for men. They got height transformation. Now, let's not put hair transplant and fake abs on the same level, dude. Hey, hey, hey, hey. I just seen somebody with bald head

Then next day, I might have dreads Okay, okay That's a problem All I'm saying is this Okay, that's a problem, that's aggressive But say somebody wants to get their shit touched up We got a lot of friends That's not the same as getting like fake calves put in

You know, like dudes are getting calves put in their body Yeah, yeah, no, if you just get your little ball spot touched up That's cool, that's cool. It's not like going from balls to dreads Do you feel? You can't just have no hair to have a bad purr. It don't work like that. Erlacker.

Erlacher. Exactly. Yeah, it was too much. He had to get put down for that. He had to get anesthesia. That's a problem. So that's where the line is, dude. If you got to get anesthesia, that's a fucking problem.

If you can be awake during your hair transplant, it's okay. It's cool. It's cool. But anytime you got to go into transformation that's taking, like I said, height changing. People really change in their heights from 5-2 to five nine why you go to five nine i don't know that's still short a sale i would want to six two yeah but hey this the shit is going on i feel like this

a man been going doing this shit for a while like you said they try to be the perfect man and i guess this is what they think is next man change so i tried to get veneers but they told me my teeth were too fucked up you got them why you got you i got you got i got i had knocked this shit out in high school and you obviously we didn't have no money to get my shit really fixed so my shit was dead bro like the back up like all my teeth was dead i remember the only only lady girl that ever said me like hey bro your teeth got to be fucked up with my wife my first damn their first man she was like bro your brother stinger all the time and she was like let me see the back of your shit and that's all fucked up and i went got all them shit's done hey dude but that's pretty

funny you're like my parents they didn't have that excuse they just didn't noticed that I had ugly fucking teeth. Like, incredible. Like, we could have gone, you know, like all the other kids down there and got the braces and the whole thing. So when Aaron Donald got to St. Louis, I used to bust his balls and he used to bust my balls about my teeth. Now look at his fucking teeth.

They're perfect. You got the teak tags in. I had to go get Invisaline to get my shit straightened out. In fact, I just had my... Are you done? No, there's like seven weeks left. Okay. But I said, hey, I'll put that off for a little bit because I feel like we're in a good

place. nice. Yeah. So just how it's how they go back to the way they were. Well, a little pro tip. No, I'm still wearing what I got. Okay. Is that true though? Well, yeah. No, but they tell you you should wear it 12 hours a day, eight to 12 hours a day. It's like in a brief year. Back in the day, those of us that had the whole brace thing, if you didn't put your retainer in. Oh, see, that's good. Because I wear my retainer. Yeah. I wear my retainer. Good. All right. Well, that's pretty much everything for Darren Bates. Hey, before I get them out, I got to give a shout out. Ray Ray, Arson. You know, that's our dog. You know,

He came through. He sent me some shit. He got his clothing line, his clothing store. Kit, keep it tight. That's his shit. You could use some keep it tight. You should use some. Can Ray Ray, shout out to Ray Ray.

Can Ray send us some kit here at the studio? Hell yeah. Can he help make and keep it tight? He can, oh, I'm sure he got all the sauce to help you keep it tight. Darren, I'm medium above the waist, two X below the waist. All right. That's not, is that? Yeah.

That's an odd. That's odd. That's all right. Okay. Well, no, hey, a little body shaming by you, but that's all right. No, I'm, I'm, no, but it sounds, it sounds like something it's not. It sounds like when you deliver that with a straight face, it sounds like it's a dick comment. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. I just got a pretty small torso for a six four cat. He's six four, bro. Yeah. Give baits of your weight. It's normalized since, six four, one seventy five. He's basically, Devante Smith is his player comp.

Yeah. That's, so that, oh my God, that's why you're going to flip and fold your legs over like that. Yeah, because he saw, you see what Swaggett was talking about that? See, Long, do you get jealous that? Can you cross your legs like me? No, I don't, I can't. I don't know if he has some hip, hip display shit. I hate when guys do it in front of me.

I want to do it. I want to be able to do it. I just know skinny people, but your thighs, damn, really cut. You can do all this. Hey, hey, one more time. Big shout out to Raur Room. We love raw room. We love Darren Bates.

We hope you come back soon and bullshit with us. It was a lot of fun. Yeah, man. Y'all listen to Rarone. We are all platforms. Y'all fuck with us. Easy. Easy.

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And in Michigan, 1-800-2707-1-17. Tennessee, y'all 2, 1-8009-9-9. Do you want to lay a line out of baits right here? Yeah, sure, sure, sure, sure. Maybe that's the thing that starts happening. Layup line just goes wherever. I think everything can float. Easier to find it that way.

Layup line. Layup line. We're an hour and 20 minutes. Holy shit. I hope you guys were warmed up. Do you think there's anybody that just listens to this show for the layup line? Yeah, they're like, there's probably a layup line Twitter account, like layup line appreciators. Reddit thread.

Yeah, for sure. We're not going to search it, but probably. Yeah. What is it? It's walking in Memphis, as you suggested. It's, When I was walking, I was walking with my feet, 10 feet off of beer. It came up, actually, it was Kingston.

So shout out to Kingston back there, but it's a great idea. And you know what I think? Was it you? It's okay. You were very high at the time. Now you're back down there. I don't think I'm very high. Ah, it's not a bad thing.

It's not a bad thing. No. You're wrong, though. Moderate high. Was it not your idea? Oh, oh, my bad. So this is classic miscommunication. classic miscommunication.

So I thought you were talking about during the Darren interview and that's when I had brought up 10 feet off a Beal. Do you have a contact high because his idea was concretely to put layup line and make it walking in Memphis.

For sure. So maybe not a classic miscommunication. Maybe a classic you being a fucking idiot smart guy. That's mean. That's mean. No, you might want to say sorry about that one. To be fair, you're a dumb smart person,

not a smart dumb person. And now textbook, that's mean. Yeah, that's, that's mean. You told me I was very high. So listen. This is textbook. I'm so glad we caught this on. If you run it back.

Textbook gaslighting. You fucking jackass. It's clear that you might have been talking about how it came up originally. No, no, no, no, no. I said idea. And now, thank you.

Thank you, Farr's fuck. Thank you, what he's trying to do is fire extinguish a day that we got through without an argument. He's trying to fire extinguish right now. There's no fire. It's just,

hey, it's okay. It's okay. I misunderstood. Is that what you want to hear? Yeah, dude. It's pretty easy to say. That's what happened.

I misunderstood. My bad. Oh, hey, I accept your apology. No, no, no. I'm quoting you in the film. Good idea, Matt. On making walking Memphis layoff line. This is good stuff.

This is good. But you did bring up walking in Memphis earlier. I don't really know how to, I don't, I want to. Put on my blue suede shoes and I boarded the plane. Touchdown and the touchdown. Who the fuck wears blue suede shoes on a plane? I'm beating that guy up too. Beating you up on the plane to Memphis.

Then I'm walking in Memphis. I was walking with my feet and off the bill. Walking in Memphis. Do I really feel the way I feel? Yeah, I know this shit. Saw the ghost of Elvis On Union Avenue Followed him up to the gates of Graceland

Then I watched him walk right through Oh there's a ghost in this in this song Now security they did not see him They just hovered round his tomb But there's a pretty little thing Waiting for the king Down in the jungle room When I was walking in Memphis

Hey Not as good as this is not the best country ghost song. The best country ghost song. What? I was looking for a pass. If ever there's a ball, I'd just like to have a toss. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Lefty Frizzell. Ten years ago. There's a singer name Lefty Frizzell. Fuck, yeah, there is. Oh, the cold dark. Long black veil is the best ghost song in country. I did not know this walking in Memphis song was trying to be a ghost song.

Ooh. Previously referred to as a death ballad on this program, I believe. We call it a death ballad. Lefty, go listen. I'm going to make you a lefty. I'm going to make you a lefty playlist. The mixed state. All right.

Hey, so walking in Memphis, do you like these layup lines just popping up randomly? Are you ready to play when the pod starts? Do you need a layup line? We want the layup line to pop up, I think, organically from now on. I feel like this is great. Yeah. Same can go for any of it, you know? I think it went well for you the first.

time. Yeah, yeah, this was one for one. This was good. We do have to close the show. But first, I'm going to do a Coors Light made to chill draft segment. Let me step out for this one. I'm going to go, I'm going to go get an ice cold Coors Light, BRB. It's pretty good. These days, it seems like life forces us to be on all the time. So every now and again, it's important to stop and reset. That's when you reach for a Coors Light. It's mountain cold refreshment, made to chill. You know, it's a hectic time of year between weddings, graduations, spring sports, and more. We're busier than ever right now. And it's my favorite season. If I'm being honest, it's a great season to take a second for ourselves in the midst of all this craziness.

So this year, take a second to enjoy an ice cold Coors Light because you deserve a beer that's made to chill. Much like me. The mountains on the bottles, cans, you know, like they turn blue when your beer's cold. Come on. This is a chilling beer. You always know when it's time to chill. When you need to hit a reset, just open a Coors Light. I can hear it right now.

Mountain Cold Refreshment. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door with Drizzly or Instacart by going to Coorslight.com slash Greenlight. Celebrate responsibly. Cores Brewing Company, Golden, Colorado. All right. So today for the Coors Light draft segment, I just popped to, in my head like this has been done before but best beers course light they brew beer chris long i

drink beer preferably cores light honestly honest you might see me with a silver bullet spoiler alert the number one beer the number one situational beer is a river beer you give me a beer on a river in an inner tube preferably the james river no offense read the big rivana guy river river river beer number one for me. I like having the little towboat for your, like little beer inflatable tube just for your cooler. You got to have a cooler tube.

Now a river beer, you could also, I've done this before where you actually, like if you're on a river or a creek that's cold enough and it's coming off the mountains, this is no bullshit. This sounds like a chorus commercial, but if you're on the Conway River

in Madison County, Virginia and there's some trout pools and you're not a trout fisherman like that's a cooler like that is a cooler and a lot of those pools you could put a couple of silver bullets in the chamber so to speak and they don't go down the river i can go back up to my campsite just sit them there and they're not going to go anywhere because you find a pool that those beers are going to just sit in you don't even need a cooler you don't need ice you know they're cold because the mountains are blue mountains are blue here too partner listen out west the mountains get blue here too so yeah the river beer and the various ways you can

delete a river beer to me are number one read matt you got some favorite beers for me the airport beer probably number one knowing you're about to get on that plane get that ice cold cores late right before that's incredible because that's so low on my like it just i feel like an air enjoying an airport beer is like a very you thing and i mean this in like a compliment like that's cool that you can just drinking an airport and enjoy it. Like to me, the stress would be too much. What happens when this beer wears off?

They're going to have more on that plane? Well, that's why you got beer on the plane. I know, but I don't like drinking on the plane. Because what happens when that wears off? Well, hopefully the edible is still just kicking in. See, I'm a big edibles on the plane guy. And Coors Light is chill as fuck. They made the chill. They let me say that.

As far as we know. Lift beer, ski lift beer. when you're skiing. Ski lift beer is a wonderful time to drink a Coors light. After you finish the beer on the ski lift, you always take the beer can to the recycle. You don't drop it along the lift line, along the ski lift trail.

And Reed and I did not coordinate. No, that's funny. You see ski lift beer on my board as well. It's so funny because that is the perfect, like I'm really getting into that, Reed. As you know, I got to ride a ski lift for the first time and a long time last summer out of Snow Shoe.

I really was like, man, I'd like to have a beer here and I can imagine it being cold. I will have a lift beer. I've heard a lot about the lift beer. We got Crick beer, river beer. We've got airport beer, which is just like, Reed's like, I'll take a chairlift beer.

I prefer being in Vale. I'm like, I love being on the river. All those trees and all that nature. And Matt's like, I want to be in the F terminal in Charlotte. Not an outside guy. Just watching people walk by with my soul. bullet we had hotel balcony beer that's a good beer because you're on vacation you know and if it's about

if you're a hotel with a balcony something to look at and you probably you've been waiting for this vacation somebody said reception their wedding reception that's a good one yeah like the first one right after the uh right after the idu's are said and now shall be done and then it's like let's get a beer that's right sickness and the health and drunkenness too Let's get to the dance floor. That's a good beer. Here's one for me that's maybe number two would be a locker room beer. Now that doesn't happen probably anymore in the NFL a great deal,

but I've been in locker rooms where after a big game, our D-line, you know, maybe we had a bunch of sacks or something. You go back to the back and maybe somebody's got a silver bullet in their tote bag. Like maybe one of my favorite coaches ever used to give me one of those. Good game. See long. Here's a silver bullet. It's the best kind of trophy you can get after a game. I got two more that I feel pretty good about. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I would say the last round of a poker tournament,

Coors Light is one of the best cores lights you'll ever have. You and indoor beers. Also high pressure situation beers. Yeah, I guess that's true. Airports and poker tournaments. Yeah, usually like the last level of the night where it's like, all right, I'm probably going to make it through till tomorrow if I don't fuck up and I don't have enough time. to get shitface. I'm just going to have this one beer before the tournament wraps up for the day. Right. I can't relate to that beer or I need to get on the ski lift beer. Somebody said, I won't say who. They said funeral beer. That was dark.

And I don't mean an IPA. That's just a dark fucking joke. Law and more beer. Reed said that was a good one. That's a really good one. Public speaking beer is one of my favorite beer. It's like right before I go out to talk, like I'm going to slam. And I mean slam. I'm going to delete a light beer. You learn that from your friend Jason Kelsey, right? Well, no, actually, I used to do the hard liquor. Now I do the beer because I'm made to chill. We haven't mentioned music festival beer hanging out watching your favorite MMMJ show. It's a great beer. And like a cold Coors Light at a jacket show, it's 95 degrees out. Doesn't matter. That Coors Light is cold. or even back at the campsite after the show. Oh, that's a good one.

There might be another act is going on and you can kind of hear them off in the distance, but you're at your campsite hanging out. I go to all the shows, read. I'm too hardcore. I don't come back. No, read, I'm the guy who goes back to the campsite, reads the guy. It's like, no, Greta Van Fleet's playing at 1 a.m. I have to be there.

And this is one of my favorite ones. I know we left out sports beer. I know we left out golf beer, which is great beer. even. I was going to say baseball beer just to prove I do go outside. Yeah, well, that's a good beer too. Catch me in a baseball game. I'm having a good time. Here's one that not a lot of people can relate to, but toilet beer. I love a toilet beer, man. And I'm not, I'm not ashamed to say it, dude. I'm not ashamed to say that I love a toilet beer. And then lastly, and most importantly, banquets, I love beer. at banquets and I'm not just sucking up.

If I'm going to a banquet, you know what beer I'm having. I don't even need to say it. And then this is the best one read. Honestly, this might be the best one as I was thinking about it. The beer you deliver to your friend. I think that's my favorite beer. Like the joy on your friend's face, you know, and like you've made your track. Because a lot of times you really, you go get a beer as a way to get out of a conversation

or a situation. So not just that or maybe you're bored. You get up, you get to go do something, you get a beer, and then you finish it with a kind act. I think that's great. Exercise too, walking. There's also the sit in the parking lot after you ski beer or in between ski runs.

Without the key in the ignition, for sure. Skiing, but shout out to Christian Embry. He's a longtime listener, and he is a big, I'll go get you a beer and bring back two or three. for everybody. He's big on bringing back beers for everybody. I love bringing back beers. I love that guy, Reed. Oh, man. That's the kind of friends you need. You know, the guy who's willing to make that walk. I'll show you guys willing to go that inch Al Pacino at the bar. I will wade through all that foot traffic and get you a Coors Light. And you come back, it's worth it because you're smiling. Your friends are smiling. That's the best beer. All right. That was the Coors Light draft segment. What did you think of the segment? Good. You were out selling real estate?

No, no, no. I was drinking Coors lights. You sound drunk. The mountains were blue. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's hailing outside in Virginia. Yeah, it is. That's true.

Cores brewing, Golden Colorado. Hell of a segment, Chris. Thank you. I particularly like the middle. That'll take you into the middle of your week. We'll be back later in the week. No idea who the guest is. Just.

just like today. I called Bates last night. I was like, you know, this is just one of these fucking days, dude, I didn't feel like it today. But I'm in a better mood now. You know how Big Cat was like, oh, you made me, well, he, he tried to. He went from a 4 to a 2.5.

But the joke was obviously that in reality, he felt better. Yeah. I feel better, guys. It was good medicine. The guest thing, Thursday, I have no idea. But we'll, well, but there's a beauty in that. It could be anybody in the world.

Or it could be this. Or it could be nobody. It's just like me calling a friend and being like, let's fucking. and do you want to do a podcast on your porch and bates is the man base is the fucking best we love raw room take care y'all take care of yourselves and and hey hey hey and each other love is love