Green Light with Chris Long - Darius Butler On Patriots vs Cowboys, Defensive Back Techniques & Rookie QBs. NFL Week 6 Recap.

Episode Date: October 18, 2021

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Darius mentioned it. I haven't played a down of football. Am I out a line in saying that I could point out the mic pre-snap? You could probably point out the mic. That would garner some respect if I'm like, hey, Mike's 52. Yeah, you could probably. Yeah, I would have garners some, Brad. I think it's probably surprising to Darius that you didn't play football.

I think you probably thought you were one of my former teammates looking at it. For sure. last week lightning for like six hours this week bad injuries and overtime we're here at like 1 a.m.

Again. Yeah, it's your today. It is your today. We just wrap watching that Pittsburgh Seattle game and my goodness we were on the same thing

we'll talk about that in a second so that was quite the experience we should do that more bet on the same game hang out together like friends Yeah, you say, I'll ride with you on that one. I'll double play it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That sort of deal. That was exhilarating and nice to be on the winning side with you. Yeah. Plattville, Wisconsin. Hello! Yeah, that's where the kid took the knee instead of spiking the football. Some folks in Platteville are... Explain to people what happened.

In need of a shout today. You, Wisconsin, Platville, D3 or thereabouts, down one in field goal range quarterback runs up to the line to spike the ball to stop the clock, kick the game winning field goal instead of spiking it, he kneels with no timeouts and the clock runs out. Excruciating to see.

Like legitimately, yeah, we just give the hollow man out right now. It's that guy who are not going to give his name. We're not going to make him searchable. We don't want, you know. Better days are ahead. Better days are ahead. And the good news is, didn't know there was a Plathville. right so you got that map i mean my god dude there was a guy there was like the incredulous play by play guy

and the color commentator were screaming over him and then there was the moment the kid i just felt bad for him dude i just felt bad for him but hey kid at least you're not doing fake huddles while miced up under a spy cam on national television we'll talk about that in a while i think hey tonight's this morning's uh week sixes Week six is Layup line Is gonna be put me in coach By one of those bands

From the 80s The outfield or something Was it is that a real John Fogarty It's called centerfield Oh it's John Fogarty It's Centerfield by John Fogarty Yeah put me in coach

I just said the outfield Because of the baseball thing We knew it was Fogarty What a fucking poser I would be at a John Fogarty concert huh You know Fogarty was in that Credence Clearwater revival I know but if I went to one of his

solo like tours and I just was out there like when's you going to play put me in coach this came up at some point in the last several hours maybe the live stream I thought uh jimmy hendricks was in um what the hell band were we talking about pink floyd no I thought I swear to god I swear to god it's a blind spot for me good music is a blind spot for me it's kind of one of the biggest blind spots in the world you could ever have I thought not just good music but then like you all right easy on the laughter back there fellas we're gonna listen we're gonna listen dark side of the moon this week okay okay i had no idea they were from england my my favorite country do you know a jimmy hendricks song can you name one yeah

ooh you could be stepping in it no jimmy hendricks yeah no give me a jimmy hendricks there's one no not see if you i think you're gonna i think you're gonna you're gonna trick yourself here hands up i'm not typing anything jimmy hendricks Oh, because, listen, Prince is Purple Rain. Yeah. And Jimmy Hendricks is the way Studio J looks most of the time. Hazy? Close.

Purple Hays. Purple Hays! You got it. I thought you were going to go all along the Watchtower, and I was going to then tell you it was not his song. It's Bob's. It's Bob Dylan's song. So we're on it.

Congratulations. Thank you. on it you are on it uh but yeah put me in coach classic john fogerty so like how do you go from like some of those cc r deep cuts to that one like go from effigy to like put me in coach effigy wow yeah right i'm so like have you ever seen the rain oh i don't just give you a main that's why i said deep cuts yeah yeah cam newton he says put me in coach he says put me the fuck in coach i got the needle uh and i'm ready to uh to go play COVID vaccine, to be clearer.

The COVID vaccine. Yep. So I just read that. It must have been strategically dropped during like the fourth quarter of the Pittsburgh Steelers game. I'm just telling you, dude. Like, hey. No doubt about it.

I think it might have been even before Sunday night. But you're right. Gino and Big Ben, this is when I drop it. If there was a time to drop it, it would have been during that game. And by the way, Gino played well. Played pretty well. And lit live stream, dude. Somebody asked, would you rather have Big Ben or Gino the rest of the year?

And I'm like, you know, when you're doing a live stream, you're kind of blind. You're like on Twitter, but you can't see the replies because I don't have my laptop open. And I kind of, I posited that maybe just off of durability and the principle of that,

like I'd want Gino on that alone, but he put up 20 points on what is definitely a better defense than the one that Ben was seeing. The weaponry, obviously probably slanted just a touch maybe in the direction of Gino, but I thought Gino was probably, pretty good tonight, especially late, and it was T.J. Watt. T.J. Watt, who shined. I mean,

it was clear to us, especially in overtime that the Steelers don't trust Big Ben and Big Ben doesn't trust Big Ben. That's right. 5.7 yards per attempt. I mean, it's Dink and Dunk Dink City receiving for the Steelers. He got it to Deontay Johnson nine times, but Naji Harris seven targets again. Friarmooth was a easy dump off all night long. And they were bailed out by the defense. To be fair, like, Seattle ran like a bubble screen on third and ten late in the game so it wasn't like Seattle was taking shots with Gino you know and I joke that that was kind of like Pittsburgh's defense formed it because they see it in practice every day anytime

they go to third down and Pittsburgh's running their shit it's a fucking swing pass or it's a bubble screen or something you know with no ambition at all and so my thing is like when you look at a cam new I'm not saying they should sign them and just take Ben off the field week seven or whatever it is, but I'm just saying that at some point you might need a serviceable veteran quarterback. And you might need a package that you can get into some power run formation stuff and give the other team something to practice all week. To have Cam Newton, like not only can he play quarterback if you want to move on from Ben at some juncture this year,

but he can also give you a package to run or a multitude of things to run that are going to keep opposing defenses up all week. And the more you're practicing against, you know, regame and that sort of thing, those wrinkles take up meeting time on everything else you're doing. So it's less time you're prepping for, you know, you running your plays. Either of those teams make the playoffs, Pittsburgh or Seattle. Pittsburgh's three and three. Seattle's now two and four without Russ for another few weeks. outside looking in, huh? I think Pittsburgh's got a better shot.

You know, I'm still, until they get the quarterback thing figured out, I'm not really afraid of them making a run. It's actually incredible that they're the team that beat the bills, week one. Yeah, that's one of those. Week one thing, dude. It's a week one thing. But T.J. Watt, awesome rusher,

but also an awesome, like, football player. You talk about things that he did in, like, a three-play span. I saw like he stands up. Gerald Everett throws him in the C-Gap, makes the play in the D-Gap. forces the ball to bounce. He beats a puller in a G-pull play action scheme.

He's instinctive. He looks inside. He knows that because of the depth of that guard pulling towards him that it's a pass play and he's able to knife up the field. He's not just athletic.

He doesn't just win rushes, but he's very instinctive and he plays a complete game and then he drops in coverage, all that stuff. And when the game's on the line, it's not even his best rush that wins the game for them.

It's him reading, 95 getting vertical and it's High Smith on the other side, albeit late reading that play action and forcing Gino up in the pocket and T.J. just wraps. So really cool to see him work in prime time. That's about half the reason I'm watching that game at that juncture. Hey, Freddie Swain. Shout out to Freddie Swain. Dick K. Metcalf catches it on the sideline, fumbles, clocks running, no timeouts, like 11 seconds ago. Into regulation. And Freddie Swain gets everybody going. from Russ running out onto the field made sure he got into the shot. He also was in the

coin toss. And then go trots out for the overtime coin toss makes the tails call, says we want the ball, picks up the coin, tosses it to the official. Goodness, gracious. And then does look back after the fact to make sure he got it. Probably a little wink in there. But Freddie Swain. You're on

one about Russ tonight. Hey, Freddy Swain, I mean, I get it. They lose the game ultimately. It would have been a game ball. And it would have been a, you know, it could have been a hollow man. No doubt about it. Freddie Swain. Yeah, D.K. was trying to say I was down.

What was going on, dude. No, like great shitty game. One of those classic great shitty games. This was made for prime time. Myers hits the 43-yarders, sent it to overtime. There's a punt, the Gino fumble, and then Boswell wins it. Seattle.

They're the worst playing ride, dude. Doesn't get any worse than that. Like, it is, well, it could be worse if they were flying east, but either way it sucks. Long. Long. Nighttime.

Night time. Pete Carroll got Jordan Peterson. Pete Carroll's on the plane. Running up to two dozen different guys with an iPad saying, chewing gum. It's like, hey, man. Loud. Trying to sleep.

Viral pandemic. Yeah. Aerosol is coming off the gum. Tough, tough plane ride. That's my worst. Worse than Miami because at least you were hung over because you were out in London the night before. And I just want to say this off the top.

Beville Conway this week, of course, given to the most beautiful football scene on the weekend. It was hard. The whole weekend was tough to, no, I think there was a point in the 1 p.m. today where I was looking at, you know, Chiefs and the football team who you don't like their get-ups, but I don't mind them. You know, I'm looking at the Chargers and the Ravens, who that was gorgeous. You know, not much can make purple pop like, you know, those brilliant chargers-of-ways, which you don't love. as much as I do. I love them.

I'm just a little bit of, hey, this is the greatest uniform I've ever seen fatigue. The white, white, yellow, not my favorite of those combos. Oh, I love that. I love that. But the best is the Bears. The Bears throwbacks are maybe the best in football. Like definitely the best non-charger uniforms in football. They're gorgeous, man.

They are absolutely gorgeous. That's the thing. The Chargers need a good compliment and they don't always have it. I'm with you on the Bears Unis and going against the classic Packers. It was beautiful. Hands of beautiful. So I'm just going to give it out right now to Packers, Bears. Okay. Still playing on a grass field. Unlike a lot of these sellout stadiums, you'll be at some dog

shit new sterile complex. And where was that piece of land they bought in Chicago? Arlington Heights. Yeah, you'll be in Arlington Heights. The Chicago Bears of Arlington Heights, man. Silver medalist for me. I'll go Raiders, Broncos. Broncos went Navy on Navy. They don't wear that Navy very often. That's helmet and shirt. They went with the white pants. How was a good look? The theme today, a lot of so-so games, man. Just being honest with you and then the way, you know,

London, but I do like the London thing. Oh. I like waking up and there being a football game. I'm not parking in that garage. Really? Well, I made the mistake of watching that game. It's a warm up, dude. It's nice to be watching one game where everybody's sharing the experience, even if it's

Jags, Dolphins, which good Lord. Everybody's watching at the same time. We don't get to do that if it's not late at night. You know what I mean? Like, that's very rare that we get to watch one game same time in the NFL. I just assume people looked at it on the sports app.

Check in on the score at 11 a.m. I'm watching it. I'm watching it eating today too. It was just too much. No, I like it. I'm with it as a player. I would not like it playing there or,

you know, living there being a London-based team. Oh. Yeah, no, there's no shade on London. No, I love London.

So Jacksonville, got their first win. They're off the snide, right? And by the way, the Eagles have the Dolphins pick next year, as well as the indie pick. At the moment,

Eagles have two, eight and nine in the 2022 NFL draft. Yeah, dude. Howie's like, just get me there. Three more slot receivers. Okay.

And you wonder why people, when you say Hertz is not necessarily the future there. I mean, you tell me if what you've seen so far is like, and I love Jalen Hertz, but we just don't know yet,

and they've got maybe three top 10 picks. Another spot where they don't know if they have the guy, Miami and Tua. You're damn right. And that's who Jacksonville got off the snide with today. I live bet the Jags and I got to tell you Taylor. That's a rush. Congrats to Taylor. That's great.

Only Jags fan in America. I could really empathize for a little bit with what it was like to be a Jacksonville Jaguar fan. A lot of things fucked up happen. Anytime you take one step forward, you all take two steps backwards. It's just a thing y'all do. And I think you probably get used to it. That young lady at the bar took a couple of steps backward into Urban Meyer.

About a week or two back. Let him tell it. But yeah, no, Taylor, he had like his Jacksonville Jaguar shirt on on Zoom earlier. And he was lamenting what was going on TV. And he was fantasizing about other teams. He was talking out loud about fantasies with other teams, like maybe a Raiders or, you know, like a Cleveland Browns, that type of thing. he's talking all that mess about he's going to jump ship he shows up with a different

jaguar shirt on to work today dude he's got multiple jaguar shirts the guy has an entire closet full of jaguar shit sorry dude you're a lifer you've come this far and by the way the jaguars play pretty well when they're at home they're at home they play they play pretty well well they finally got out of wimbly wemble they're in uh what hot spur hot spur hot spice where they roll the field out. It's crazy. With the, and they got their guy, Jarvo 69 to run onto the field. You love that. You love the streaker. That was so good because he was streaker. He was clothed.

Yeah, but he was dapping up the D-line. D-line was dapping back. Just a much chiller vibe over there. Yeah, it is. Security was like, I might. This guy evidently does this with cricket. Yeah. But like when he went on the cricket field on the pitch out there, they really thought he was one of the guys. I love it because he got the wrong Jaguars jersey today. He went with the teal. Amazing and easily identifiable today.

But when he was out there with the cricket, he was standing up there at bat for a second. Like people were milling around like who's up next? I wish he- There's 80,000 people in the stands, dude. I wish he would have gone into a three-point stance there for a little bit. Cowboy said he would rush a field for the pod. Cowboy read said that for the pod that he would rush a field.

Cowboy, what field would you rush? Oh, Denver. For sure? For free. You would get winded as hell. and then get banned for life. You're okay with that. Yeah, man, worth it.

And then they would know how much I love them, and then they'd be like, oh, come back, man. I don't think that's how it works, cowboy, at all. Again, for the pod. So you're going to have to be wearing like... Like a green light pod. Yeah, love is love. Yeah, love is love.

No, no, no, no. Yeah. No, we don't need making branding right now. We need green light pod branding. I don't know, Reed, if it works that way, but we'll fly to Denver if you want to... I'll rush any field you'll simply. me too. Really? This, I believe him.

I believe him too. He's not one to lie. Just put me down close to the, uh, close to the field in the stands. Well, we know the mechanics of a street. No, no, buy the ticket. I'm saying buy me a ticket down near the So if you're up in the 300 level,

you can't walk down to the front? No, no, it's impossible. I'm not going to I need a ticket and then I'll rush in the fourth quarter. He wants a good seat. He wants to watch the game from a good seat. This is like one of those It's like he wants to go to a game so bad that he's willing to not like ever go to a game again after. Like that's the ultimate sacrifice. How noble is that?

Like how special would that game day experience for Reed v. in Denver? He would be crying the whole game, tears of joy until he ran out on the field and pubbed the fuck out of Greenlight Pod. And then he would get tackled because we're in America. Get tackled by Von Miller. Break your collarbone. I'll do it. You'd be hyped about that.

too. I mean, sick. Sick. That'd be sick. But the Jags, when they're at home, they're good, man. And today they were good. So the only thing that they really dodged a bullet on was the Urban Meyer clock management. Okay. They're getting down there trying to get one more completion and a spike, I believe it was.

Yeah. And there was about like 12 seconds when they got down to the ball or so, if I'm not mistaken. And Urban lets a solid five seconds run off before. they snap and spike. So they need to spike and then pick up about 10 more yards to be able to trot this kid out who looks like he's been fucking backpacking in Europe. Like the kid literally looks like...

Cowboy Reed vibe. No, like a fucking 16 year old kid vibe, dude. This kid... Matthew Wright. Matthew Wright, all due respect. He looks young and he's out there and I'm like, you know, Lambo's gone. This random kid, they picked up at the bus station

and they're like, hey, kick for us. He hooks the first one. in. I weigh more than I. Like just hooks. Yeah, you definitely do. Mbd. You definitely do. He hooks the first one in and then they need to get like a little bit closer for him to hit the second one to win the game. And Urban is playing with fire dude. Like totally playing with fire. Five seconds takes too long. It's a miracle. They somehow, and this is more about the dolphins to me, find a way to complete a ball right over the sticks, get the sufficient yardage in under five seconds, and called a time out. So Urban Meyer after the game says, yeah, we practice it all the time. It's called

slider. Great drill. Most teams do it, but what they don't do in the drill is let the clock run down unnecessarily to five seconds. We'll get to Mike McCarthy in a while. It is unreal to these coaches. I assume it's pride, but it's unreal that they don't have one of their dozen coaches up in the booth. Be assigned to the clock. Oh yeah, yeah. If I was a head coach, I would let that go, man. That seems like an ego thing to not just let somebody else do the clock. And then it's going to get out that somebody else is on the clock. So then when something bad does happen and you take the blame, you're the good guy. Exactly.

Because people know that it's not you, but you take the fall. But when it's on you, it's on you. And some of you guys out there looking big dumb, it's pretty easy mad. Big dumb. Hey, Miami is low-key bad, which leads me to my question. People are asking about best plane ride, cowboys, jags, which one is it? It's the Raiders. I'm just going to say right now, the Raiders after.

everything they've been through this week. Not only did they win, but also their old coach, uh, who is a racist and all that stuff, is like somewhere else. And Derek Carr doesn't have to deal with him for one plane ride home. Plus they gain an hour getting home.

So they're going back to Las Vegas. They, they got a cool head coach who seems chill. Everybody wants to hang out with him. Basatia. Basatia. Sotch. Yeah.

Yeah. He, the, Kishon said he calls him the Italian stallion. By the way, I went on Kishon's show. Kishon called me, he called me Howie, dude. Kishan, dude.

Kishan has taken multiple stabs at which long I am, like four different times. He's called me Chris before. He called me the other day. We were on the show. We were having an awesome interview, and he was like, Kyle, I'm telling you. I'm like, fuck, I didn't say a word.

And I was like, you know what? When I go on a show on Friday, if he calls me the wrong name again, I'll just say something. He said, Howie? Oh, yeah. And so, you know what? said. Oh no no worries

I said no worries Michael Thomas That's good That's his nephew you get it? Oh I didn't get it I thought you were just going random wide receiver Because I wouldn't have been able to come up with Marshawn Yeah no my name's Chris but yeah I didn't want to show Kishan up but I was like you know what

Well he's on a live radio show so when I think he was on there with Max Kellerman And they just started laughing they were like Chris Chris Chris and Kishan was like Oh I fucked it up the other day He didn't say fuck because but Keishon's awesome he just doesn't know my name sometimes

Miami low-key bad man are they are they the worst team in the league is Jacksonville still the worst team in the league 20 games I honestly think it's like baseball players when they have a slump they do really really weird stuff to get out of slump like I don't need to say anything else

they do some really weird shit you baseball guys are different I think they did some weird shit like Shotcom was like, we got to hire Urban Meyer. We got to sign Tim Tebow to play tight end. We got to fucking Urban Meyer's got to do all this stuff. And then we're going to win a game eventually. It's like a slump breaker. You've lost in London.

Yeah. Yeah. And said the plane ride back isn't so bad. Worst flight for me is Miami just because they thought they were pretty good. And now they're one in five. And I do think that they just lost the worst team in the league. I do think it's still Jacksonville. See, I think it might be the knee.

York Giants. There's some contenders, including the New York Giants. You're in New York Giants. 38 to 11 losers today. Golly, dude. But hey, we're not healthy. We're not healthy. You're not healthy.

But evidently you're the new chargers. You're backed up going for it on fourth and one now. Which is just the ultimate, like, well, when he did it, it was cool. Like, you know, like, Devante Booker. You don't waste Devante Booker. Joe Chedges, like, dude, all I've been looking at all week is these fucking Brandon Staley clip. I get on my Twitter burner.

There's Brandon Staley clips, first, fourth and one, backed up. I don't care if we're on our own one, we're going for it. I'm gonna be the coolest fucking guy in New York. I saw it was three to nothing. And I was like, wow, this is the one this week. Everybody was wrong. 10 and a half?

We're gonna mess around here. All week, I was like, oh, remember the last time they played? It was low scoring. Yeah. Stupid sounding shit like that. 28 second quarter points later. Well, here's the problem. In the second quarter, you've got drives, scoring drives for the Rams of 12 and 14, okay?

So the first one, 74 gets beat. And by the way, it's 7 to 3 at this point. So they've really busts their asses. And this thing about the Giants, like if they try hard enough, they can almost pretend like they're a good team for a little bit. But they're down 7-3 and 74 gets beat like a drum, can't pick the ball up. He gets beat, turns around, he's the only one out of the play enough to see the ball on the ground. and you can't pick it up.

That compounds it. Then they have them like fourth and one and get beat on a rubber out to cup. So like you have multiple chances to like stop the bleeding. Same thing. 14.3. That's when the picks start. And I don't know if Taylor Rap is wearing an invisibility cloak or something.

But we're going to talk about Trayvon Diggs' picks with Darius Butler in a little bit. And, you know, how difficult some of them are from a ball skills standpoint. You don't have to catch the football well to catch one of Daniel. Jones's picks. I mean, he looks right at you right now, today. Today, I'm not saying him all the time. Him all the time. Okay. I'll say it. Him all the time. He's a turnover machine. It's not going to work

out. You the Giants fan have ruled. Perhaps I'm too close. I'm not talking like Taylor and thinking about side teams. No, it's bad. It's way too far into this relationship for this to be happening. And hey, it's too bad. It sucks. It's not his fault. But Seekuan can't stay on the field either. So it's tough, man. It's tough. I mean, like, but the two Taylor rap picks were eating. I mean, he's just staring at him. I mean, he's just reading, reading his eyes. It's got to be like reading good,

good night moon. It's not like reading the Iliad. Nice. You know what I mean? It's like more, it's more straightforward. Yeah, it's more Harry the Bunny than, comprehensible. Than,

than leaves of grass. Wow. Yeah. Look at you. Lerned fellow. Yeah. Yeah. His eyes aren't scanning the field, really.

He's just, yeah. No, I think he can go. go through his progressions, but he just has a bad habit of looking people off and got hurt on that, dude. He had a bad day. I would really like to see Daniel Jones succeed. So it's not like I don't like the guy. He just today was just staring at motherfuckers. I think the Giants might be the most implosion-worthy team this year. Like, I'm not saying they got to blow it up, but I'm saying like it could get really ugly because of the market, because of how badly they lose some games, because of turnovers, the whole thing. So,

sorry dude and the rams it's okay yeah i'd said it before we started this year season new york giants worst record in the NFL and who are they drafting that number one overall yeah yikes let's let's join the guy who is carral roller coaster well maybe matt corral you might have be sold on yeah go ahead and draft him up and pass up uh can we get the oklahoma quarterback oh yeah you can get him in the transfer portal i like uh i want that one i want that one oh the new one i this kid Friday night from Oregon he's quick oh my goodness also

show up show up for uh Tibido stay for Sewell dude that that guy there's another soul bench pressing people yeah he's a linebacker for Oregon

he's an absolute dog but yeah a lot of bad football today indie Houston bad teams came back down to earth I mean like Houston came back down to earth right they became non-competitive today the lions came back down to earth

Dan Campbell you jumped out of the gym for that. Yeah, it was a tear jooker. He tried that joke out earlier. And I got a good response. Yeah, it was good. But I couldn't find it here on my word document. Yeah, you got juked by the tears.

I got juked by the tears. Took the lions. Took the lines. Money line. Put the lions in a money line parlay. Money line. I was all over it because I was like, well, these guys aren't going to lose for Dan Campbell again.

Yeah, I kind of, there was some conjecture on the show. about maybe the line this could be the week there was maybe me and Steve talking each other into stuff you ever see me and Steve kind of like talk each other into stuff like through zoom I don't know if he bet it but I didn't okay like I wasn't that ballsy um but I do want to give out my uh Frank Gore Memorial award um this goes to a guy who's ball in in obscurity nobody was watching that game nobody healthy was watching that game outside of the rust belt you know was a Rust Belt special there. Just fucking throwing touchdowns

with a bruised throat in the Rust Belt. Nobody's watching the only people that are watching your family. Like that's it, Joe Burrow. 19 of 29 for 271, three touchdowns. Yeah, it'll do. You know what the slogan of that award is? It'll do.

Nobody saw it anyways. And congratulations to him. To go up there on silent count, not have a choice. Have to go to silent count because your throat's bruised. And you just ball out like that. Scorogami.

Do you know what Scorogami is? Scorogami is when there's never been that score before. That was 38 to 11. Really? And the Lions also put up 11. It was a good week for the number 11. Something people call. Oh, there's like a Twitter account and everything.

Scorogami. Yeah. So anyways, I'm going to, hey, Indie, Houston. I'm not going to talk about you a lot, but I will tell you. And Davis Mills or Daniel Jones? Oh, goodness. gracious. Well, I already know about Daniel Jones, so let's ride with Davis

Mills. Okay. Hey, Carson pushing the ball down the field more, dude. And I'm being fair here. I want to take that back. I'm sorry. Yeah. It's enough. Daniel Jones. There's a good quarterback in there. I'm telling you, dude, there is a good quarterback in there. And that's why everybody's like trying to shake it

out of him. Like, let's get it out of you, man. Maybe you just got to leave the meadowlands. But Carson is pushing the ball down the field more. I mean, like some of the balls he threw today were beautiful. Uh, the Paris Campbell shot. He hit Pittman outside of numbers for a bunch. The Hilton shot early in the second, I believe it was, was gorgeous. Split, split two deep defenders, dropped it in. And I mean, he was really decisive stepping in the throws. Obviously it was Houston, but they have to feel good.

Since week four, he's 73% completion. He's five touchdowns. He's no picks. And he's almost 10 yards in attempts. So definitely looks different than the guy who was in Philly. last year. Listen, he was pretty mid through the first couple weeks but he's played well and you know that Colts lost, you know, last week in Baltimore wasn't really on him. Ty Wight, 800 yards against

the Texans now in his career. And Jonathan Taylor, there's mentioning. Oh yeah, we should, we just... 145 yards we really should talk about him. I mean, that dude is a stud dude. Minnesota Carolina, this feels like a tipping point in Carolina to me. I mean, like you talked about earlier this year, are they a playoff team?

Are they not? They were kind of the classic, and I still think they are a team early in the season that people wonder, can they make a run? I don't think so. I just don't. And I think, like, we said this before the Eagles game. And that was really supposed to be a win.

They were supposed to win that game. These last two weeks, after you made moves that you made, whether it was Gilmore or Jalynne, Smith, like you're saying we think we're good enough to win right now. And when you're saying that, you're also kind of burning the ships a little bit or intending to burn the ships because what does that mean? You're going to win games hopefully and you're going to draft lower. You're not going to have a Matt Corral to swipe out of the top 10. So they think that they're good. And I think that they're kind of good, but they're not good enough. And you lose like this two weeks in a row.

you block a punt early for a touchdown, you're supposed to win that game, like period at that point. But take the last two minutes here, all that they had to do to get back in it, the down 2820, under two, fourth and ten out of their own end zone, down the seam,

and then they go fourth and sixth to DJ Moore, which is off his back foot, Darnel just throwing up a really accurate prayer. The throw was either so good or so lucky, which is mind-boggling for a guy who plays, inconsistent. They score with like 40 seconds ago. They get two points on a shovel pass

and they never get the ball again. Minnesota goes wide right from 47. They win the toss and take it down and win. Darnal has thrown seven picks in games without Christian McCaffrey. Zero picks in games with them. And McCaffrey just put

on IR so it won't be back until week nine at the earliest. I hate to be cliche, but you know when you have a safety blanket or security blanket, as people love to say. I mean, and he's always running an option route where he's winning at the end of the, oh shit, what am I doing here? As I go through my progression, that guy is going to help you look a lot better.

Speaking of, oh shit, what are you doing here? The Vikings win total on the season. This has been a fun ride. Four of their first six have concluded on the final play. How many wins they have now? Three. Three and three. Am I on pace here?

Nine and a half was another here. we're at the one third mark. We are at the one third mark. Everybody knows the one third mark. Because they're 18 weeks. 17 games, 18 weeks. Let's do a rapid fire. Who's your MVP?

At the one third mark, my MVP is the marvelous Jackson. Yeah, mine too. Who's your D.P. O. Y. T. J. Watt. Wow. Prisoner of the moment. He just watched T.J. Watt close out the Seahoggs.

The Gino Smith-led Seahawks. I don't know if this kid in Dallas keeps it up digs okay good that was our one third coach of the year oh coach of the year

the guy who lost 34 to 6 today Brandon Saley yeah dude well it's funny you know everybody loved him going for it backed up and I didn't read the newspaper so to speak today

online but I can't imagine people were as unanimously excited about them going for it down whatever they were down fourth and two on their own 25 or whatever it was. They just don't think about it. They just go.

But Carolina, love Matt Rule. Don't think this team is ready just yet. And I think they're going to have to figure out what they're going to do at quarterback. And I don't think it's as simple as some people think it is. Here's a place where they have quarterback figured out, but they can't really figure out how to win games right now is Kansas City.

Today they put it together and they beat the Taylor Heineke-led Washington football team. But boy, did it take a lot of work? At the end of that game, Charles Davis and whoever else was calling the game. Was it, was it Kevin Harlan? Or was it, Ian Eagle? I don't know who it was.

It was Kevin Harlan. Who was Kevin Harlan? No, Kevin Harlan was on the London game. Okay, yeah, Kevin Harlan. You got to go international with Keb. International Kev, that's what we call him. International Kev. We should have him on the show sometime.

That would be really cool. Yeah, I've got, what's it called when you got a buddy who has his digits? Don't know what you call that. I have his phone number once removed. Nice, dude. Yeah. That's sick. Yep.

What are you going to do with it? I can ask a friend if we can talk to Kevin. I would eagle. I and Eagle. I and Eagle was like, man, isn't it amazing? Like, they do all this stuff wrong and they're still as good as anybody would be. 31 points. Like, I'm like, no, dude.

Actually, there's a whole bunch of people that have to eat a shit sandwich when you turn the ball over a bunch. Like, I don't care if you're scoring 31 points. not only could you score more if you didn't turn the ball over, but also there's a defense there that gets hurt as a result. You know, you hurt people with your actions when you get frustrated and just throw the ball up in the air, you know? And Patrick Mahomes knows this. Like he knows.

After the game, he's like, and I think this is why he's really awesome. He was like that dumb interception I threw. Like he's just matter of fact about it. He knows he's being impatient. They also, it's not just about his mindset. They have to figure out how to get people open. both Trevor Lawrence and Patrick Mahones have eight picks this year

only Zach Wilson has more with nine Juan Thornhill made a start today for thornsonson so awahu hey I think I was with Kingston when we took Marcus Allen's phone number from your dad's phone when we were kids yeah called him you called Marcus Allen oh yeah I've been doing this a little while and the the kindest voicemail message greeting you've ever heard in your life

wishing me a great day. What did you say on the voicemail? Don't recall. Don't know if I left one, but definitely called them. I actually don't think I left one. Is this on like a fucking landline or a... Probably, maybe like a Nokia? Damn, dude. Called up Marcus Allen on Nokia. As I said,

we've got Darius Butler joining us to talk about the bigger games this weekend. These were undercards, so to speak. But it's still football, still fun. I looked up today and I was like, damn, the season's almost halfway done, but it's only

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because he actually is talking about something every time he's talking football. So the man-to-man pod with DB and AB. That's what you need to check out. Darius, how are you doing today, man? I'm doing great, man. How are you guys doing?

Well, not bad. He is doing great. A whole lot of wins, only two losses I see against the spread. Is that correct? Thus far, at time of Tate. Yes, at time of Tate. I think I'm down to two right now. Oh, money lying in against the spread.

So we need to fade him next week. Yeah. Because there's two weeks. Back to back, I'm hot. Jumping off. Yeah, there's no way next week I'm tailing you. I just had a real heater last week and then this weekend it was much more mediocre. We were talking offline about a couple of the traps we both fell into.

But Darius, man, when you see your quarterback out there doing an imaginary two-minute drill, what do you think? Hey, man. I just shot a tweet out about this, man. When I saw it, I'm like, dude, I mean, he's had some cringe moments, you know, the miced-up moment. I think we all remember he just hear him. And we know as players when we're miced up and when guys go and do the extra shit.

The only thing that says to me is he's a phenomenal player. And I think he is a great leader. But, I mean, that was some of the cornyest shit I have ever seen in my. And I'm cool with running the scripts. I know he's probably got a little junkie in him. He's never missed the game. He's like a coach. Yeah.

Like, you know how they're like addicted? We have to just do something. There was a fake huddle. But I could do without that. That's what got me making. The fake hudder. The play action, the everything, the points. That's cool.

He's in a. I don't even think you said words either. I'm running back to audio to check. Let me tell you what got me was the fist pumps. It was the fist pumps. Well, and Darius is right. He knew they, he either went to them saying,

hey, want to mic me up? I'll be miced up. Or they said, can we mic you up? And he said, yes. There's a whole thing behind the scenes that players know well.

It's the dance around who's miced up, you know, what to say, what not to say. The guys that are definitely acting when they're miced up, you know, there's a whole thing there.

Oh, yeah. So Russell Wilson, he's going to be ready for two minute when he gets back. Hey, there is like, in general, like one of the looming questions in Kansas City is like, what's wrong with the passing game? I mean, Kelsey hasn't gotten off as much this year. I don't know if that's a product of them just simply not being able to stretch the field as much without, you know, Sammy or if it's just a number two thing, if it's a protection, when you see as a defensive back, one of the most dynamic passing offenses we've seen in the last 20, 25 years,

look, this human, what do you think, and is it fixable for them? It's definitely fixable, number one. You know, you still have one of, you know, top. Most people still say one, top two at best quarterbacks in the league. You got great play callers. You got great weapons around them. But I still think you need some balance, man. I know people crowned them early and just say, hey, you know, this is the next guy.

This is the next team. They're going to run off 10 straight Super Bowls. It's the best thing we've seen is a slice bread. But coordinators catch up. And they're going to make you beat you left-handed. You know, Ty Hill, he's kind of like, he has like that Steph Curry effect. He gives everyone else space because you have to keep two safety's deep to prevent him from killing you. And then, you know, you got to take care of Kelsey underneath.

So once you take care of those two guys, who else is going to step up consistently and hurt you? It's got to be at least a run game or you have a third receiving option. And they really don't have either that's consistent. So until one of those things happen. And I think, you know, some of it's on Patrick Mahomes. You know, he does a lot of incredible things. But even over the last few years, he's throwing a lot of balls that just for some reason, guys would just drop it.

I was having this conversation with my brother. Like, I don't know what it is. Mahones, but guys dropped so many of his interceptions. And now guys are just catching them. So it's a combination of all those things. But I definitely think it's fixable. You know, too much challenge on that team to count them out. I want to talk about a team that has about the same record as the Chiefs, the Chicago,

Bears. I mean, is it right on the same record? Identical. First off, are they a playoff team to you? Like now with the expanded wildcard situation? No, I don't see the Bears making a playoff this year. I like the Vikings still. You know, I still think they're a better team in their record. You know, I hate, I hate saying that you are what your record is. I'm on the under win total with them. So it's just, I think it was nine and a half, which for me, I'm watching them win all these games in the most fluky, Well, not, not this is a fluky fashion. When you're under, it looks fluky as fuck.

So I like Vikings better Bears and obviously the Packers in that division. But, you know, I think for Bears fans, as long as you see consistent progression with Justin Fields at the quarterback position, it's kind of a win-loss kind of thing because that means Matt Nagy may get another year too there. That's the thing I was going to ask you because like if he played, well, if Justin Fields elevates this team to where they look like, hey, maybe we ride this thing out, Like, that's actually probably setting the city back. It may be, but he did relieve some of his play calling duties,

the laser. So we'll see if he continues to step back. But, you know, Phil isn't putting up great numbers. And when you run into a quarterback or an offense like Green Bay or half of the offense in the NFL, you got to be able to keep up. You got to be able to score. You know, it's not like the league we played in. You got to be able to score 28, 30, 31 points a week.

And they're not doing that now. That defense is still damn good. it's still a defense you can win the championship. Yeah, Robert Quinn's out there, man. Robert Quinn's out there making plays. My guy's back making plays. What years is this for him, man? He's getting, which makes me feel old because he was my young guy.

Now he's like a double-digit guy. So, yeah, him, Mac, Hicks. They have to play like above themselves to keep them in it, I think, probably. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. So, you know, they got to get to a point where they can consistently put up, you know, three, four touchdowns on the board. And until they can do that, you know, they won't be a playoff team.

but that could very well be next year. I was high on Justin Fields this year. I personally thought he should have been a second pit to the Jets. I know Jack Wilson just flew out of everywhere, you know, out of nowhere up everybody's boards, but I'm high on Justin Fields and his future. He might be my favorite rookie quarterback. I mean, you know, I'm enamored with the simplicity of what, you know,

they're doing with Mack Jones and how easy they make it for him. And I like seeing that chess match. But when it comes to just watching a guy who's got like tremendous pull, right off the bat and throws a really good ball. Watch the guy in Chicago. He's a lot of fun, man. Next four for the Bears, bucks, Niners, Steelers, Ravens.

Not a playoff team. Not a playoff team. That could be three and seven in a hurry. It could be. They could be the Niners, though. Trey Lans, he does. He looks like he needs a full year. Yeah, he's right. But, I mean, I think people expected that.

Ideally, 49ers probably wanted Jimmy G to start this whole year and get Trey Lance ready, work him in some packages. You know, these reps are, help him, but he's not close to ready to be a full-time guy right now. How about when you play these rookies over your, what, nine or 10-year, nine-year career? Yep, now, yep. Dee, when you play these rookies, man, in your DB rooms, what are the tells that people

are talking about, like whether they're pre-snap or post-nap? Well, pre-snap, number one, and you can tell at the line of scrimmage, you know, typically depending on if, like, that center is like an OG, he'll probably be calling out protections and try to make it as easy as possible on the quarterback. But, you know, you respect a quarterback and his, you know, whole game more when he's calling those protections out. He's calling out the mic and this and then this and that. And if you see rookies doing that, you're like, okay, this guy knows what he's doing. But a lot of rookies, you know, they're just trying to, you know, get out of that huddle and get through a cadence. And when you see that, you know,

you're going to take advantage of it. It's going to be a learning career from really happy. Do you see rookies just come in and light it up? I mean, luck, you know, Cam Newton, a handful maybe I can think of off the top of my head, but those guys are rare. And the mental part is the biggest adjustments, I think, for everybody, but especially for quarterback. So, I mean, one of the things is, and most rookies are kind of half-field readers. Like, hey, we got one, maybe two reads and then, you know, throw it to a checkdown, or if you're a guy like Fields or Lance, take off and run and protect yourself.

So you try to take advantage of those things, so on some things pre-snap, mix it up, and, you know, make them throwing the tight windows over and over and over again. or later, they're going to make a mistake. Do you have a comp for Fields after watching him for a few games? I'm not crazy about comps, but some guys do him. I mean, he's a guy, I think, at full potential. I mean, he could be easily top three to five quarterback. Like, he can make all the throws.

The thing he does, I think he should take off a little sooner sometimes because sometimes he did the same thing at Old State. He'll kind of hold that ball. And I think when you take off, like kind of, because he's early now. You get your first read, second read, take off. Take off, get six. year seven, get eight, and just continue. Because now that puts that play call on the defense side

and that defense on the other side, like, damn, hey, if we're doing this, this guy may take off. We got to extend. We got a plaster and coverage. Like, that just makes things more difficult. And it turns it more into backyard, simple football again when you do that as a young quarterback especially. Which is something I was curious about.

And by the way, I actually like this, nobody throws, throw anything at me. But a good Carson Wentz as, like body type, skill set, like, How about a likable Russell Wilson? A likable Russell Wilson. A likable Russell Wilson. I like Russell, fine. I'm just not into the imaginary two-minute drill. What, man?

Darius mentioned it. I haven't played a down of football. Am I out a line in saying that I could point out the mic pre-snap? You could probably point out the mic. That would garner some respect if I'm like, hey, Mike's 52. Mike's 52. Yeah, you could probably. Yeah, I would have grown up some, but I think it's probably surprising to Darius that you didn't play football.

I think you probably thought you were one of my former teammates looking For sure. Yeah. Hey, do DBEs have to have different skill sets now compared to when you, like, when you came to league and when I came to league? I always wondered to this, like, scramble drill is not just a drill anymore. Like, it's happening all the time. You know what I mean?

So is there a higher premium on guys that can plaster in situations like that and nowhere to settle and that type of thing? It's like a whole different skill set, I figure. Yeah, I think it's a higher premium on guys who could just do more in general, you know? And we kind of happened when we were in the league. You know, guys, you know, you couldn't be. When I came first in the league, you know, you had box safeties. You had deep safeties.

You know, you had press corners. You had off corners. And now guys have to be versatile. You can't, you can't mix it up. These guys get paid, you know, 30 and $40 million a year for a reason at the quarterback position. And now you kind of got the influx of kind of the, even some of the high school and college game coming into the pros and make things so simple for the quarterback.

So more than these quarterbacks and receivers are coming in ready. So now DBs, it's more of a space game than ever. Yeah. So you got to be able to tackle in space. You got to be able to communicate, pass guys off, do different things. It's kind of like almost pick and roll basketball sometimes. It's not just like, hey, cover your high school drop. You got a curl flat here with a hook curl here.

Like you got to be able to match and pass guys. So I think as long as guys put more of a premium on communicating, which I don't see as much as you should and kind of pre-snap alerts, that'll help guys out a ton. not seeing it. I felt like defense is always kind of a couple years behind the offense. So I see it kind of trending that way. By the way, the Eagles can't figure out what a pick is. You know, like everything's OPI with them. They don't even act like they're trying to get out of the way. So I don't know if that's something that's taught anymore, but you talked about space and creating space. That's just a pet peeve of my favorite team. Speaking of the guys on the other side of the

NFC East here, Diggs is a guy who I can't help but like. I mean, he just, plays. Has it been a big jump from year one to year two or just people catching up because he's making these splash plays? Oh, it's a big jump. And I think it's always a big jump, you know, going from just playing on a pro level, a quarterback, because when you're playing corner in college, you may see, you know, three or four quarterbacks who are like, you know, dudes who can really fit them in the tight windows. In the NFL, you're seeing these guys week after week after week. So it's an adjustment there. And then for him, you know, confidence. You know, This is probably his fourth or fifth year at Max playing the quarterback position.

He came in Alabama as a receiver. And that's why you see his ball skills. Like even that pick he caught today, like 97% of corners aren't catching that ball off a tip. A little redirect like with no time to adjust. Yeah. Even the one he caught on DJ more or somebody like the catches that he's making. Like it's one thing to be in position as a DB. But a lot of times at that kind of moment of truth, that's when you're like, okay, that's why you play DB.

you didn't play receiver. And with Diggs, it's the opposite. It's like, okay, I can see that receiver. When that ball goes up, he feels like it's his. So seven picks through six games is ridiculous. And I honestly, I can't think of, I mean, Honey Badger will maybe be another guy I can think of with just kind of innate ball skills like that. But that's rare on the defensive side of the ball.

Yeah, they're not just have the instincts where you can put your foot in the ground and pick up a crosser and be like, I'm going to jump that route, but also to catch the ball. I mean, it's crazy. And he also looks really sweet in seven. Oh, man. Those single digits, would you have rocked a single digit?

If I could have rocked anything, maybe it had been 13. I really like 13. When I was in high school, Alex Brown had 13. Remember at Florida? Yeah, I thought that was a good look there. Yeah, seven looks good, though.

Darius, speaking of, final score from the wrench. Husky's 21, Yale Bulldogs 15. Let's go. Let's go, dude. We're on the board. I got a dub. Hey, that's the first win. I think I saw 722 days maybe.

Good Lord. Jack Wards and the Huskies are off the hot seat, dude. Long time. And I just hate that. I even went into that game. Worried, you know, playing Yale. We just lost the UMass last week, which was like, you know, we all have that school.

UMass was like the school you went to when, you know, you weren't good enough to play at Ukraine and that we lose. So it's been, it's been a rough couple years for a few years. That's good. We played at Scott Stadium. We were reminiscent about a Scott Stadium game many years ago, bro. Ended in wild fashion. Every game did that year.

But with Diggs, is he playing that well the other 58 plays a game? Because sometimes it's hard. Like when I see a D-Lyman, one of my pet peeves, we judge off a sack. You know, we judge off of like that one rush that they fell into. You know, not every interception is going to be as easy as those two Taylor Rap picks today. Sorry about Daniel Jones. But like some sacks are gimmies. don't rush well and then they hit the home run they don't hit for average has he been hitting for

average has he been winning every down kind of thing i wouldn't say every down he's definitely not like a you know like a revis or guy who's just you know locking and strapping up down after down but he's calculated and don't get me wrong he's matching guys and he's playing well but he's calculated and the chance that he take kind of how assante samuel was and um he and he's making plays that's That's the thing about defensive ends, past rushers. If you're right, if you win once a game, you'll be the highest pay cat in the league. So as a DB, if you can get, I mean,

this dudes on a pace to get, what, 17 picks? Like that'll be a, that's crazy. So even if he's, you know, not bad for average, he's hit 60 on run. So I'll take that every day or the week. Even over a guy who's, you know, locking up and not giving up 30 yards a game, like give that the ball an extra possession of game.

I'll take that every time. What does CD Lamb do well? Everything. Everything. Yeah, he was one of those. Yeah, he came in and, I mean, he hit the ground running. He came in from day one. He was a contributor from the slide from the outside.

He's got, he just got, you know, you just see watch guys on film and they just have juice. Yeah, he just got that juice. It just kind of pops off the film. And he's having, you can tell when guys are having fun, too. He's having fun. And watching that team, you can just tell that guys like playing with and, like, for DAC. You can just, you can just see it. You can't. Yeah, you can't. It's hard. All right, Philly people listening. I get it, but it's hard to hate this particular cowboy team.

I'm just saying that. Like, I'm being as real as I can. Like, DAC is one of the most likable players in the league. And all these guys, you got to know them in Hard Knocks, seem like really good kids. CD Lamb, Micah Parsons, all these guys. And the way those wide receivers get along, there's only so many targets. I don't care how many times you throw the ball. That's another thing. And Keller Moore, I mean, he's been doing a phenomenal job keeping everybody involved. Both the backs, the tight ends, all the receivers. So they're balanced, man. If you got a balance, and that old line, the old line is playing well too again.

So you got balance like that when they can run the ball and throw it over your head. That's a tough day. And shout out to Dan Quinn, too. I had some question marks on him. I didn't know if, hey, maybe it was just L-O-B making them look good. He went out in Atlanta. They kind of stuck it up on defense. But he came in this defense in Dallas,

did a complete 180 after that, you know, that Mike Nolan fiasco last year. Look at Randy Gregory making plays left and right and he couldn't see the field last year. That tells you all you need to know about like there was just some bullshit going on last year. And until they get that short up, and I really do think with Dan Quinn, we've said this before, I think sometimes head coaches that were former coordinators, albeit like prolific coordinators, they're worried about all the things that they have to do as like managers of a locker room and of a building. and they can't focus on their bread and butter as well. You know what I mean?

That's so real, man. I used to, I was in indie for six years with Chuck, Chuck Pagano, and we would be sometimes on the sideline in games, you know, probably get an ass kicked or something. He would like, man, deep butt, man. I just miss coach your defense. I don't want to worry about, you know, what ice cream you guys are eating or Saturday night and what hotel.

I just want to coach defense. And, you know, and that's real. And he went back. He told me we never coached again. he ended up back on the sideline coached defense for the Bears and he went to retire. But that's a real thing, man. When you just lock in and focus on, man, he's right back in his wheelhouse. How about Kellan Moore?

Because, well, you tweeted about this and we were talking about this in the other room, the way they came right back to that same route concept in the fourth quarter in that, or actually, was that overtime, I believe it was? Yeah, I think I was O-T. Yeah, explain to the layman what was going on there. Yeah, so, I mean, that was the game-winning drive, kind of got to have it. And if you heard the call, you know, Romo was kind of calling out like, hey, this is what

they're going to do. They even showed the replay. They kind of halfway went through the play. They blew it dead, came right back to it, DAC through checkdown. And then maybe two plays later, it was a slightly different formation. They just tighten CD down a little bit more. And instead of motioning the guy across, they just lined them up there, which is what we call window dressing.

You end up in the same formation and snapped it. And soon as, if you watch it replay, soon as CD looked across the 50s, you know, and saw nobody there. He just threw his hand up, like, throw it, and Dak, you know, laid it out there perfectly. And it was game time, man. But for defenses, players, coaches, repeat plays, man. If they like it, they're going to come back to it.

And that's a Bill Belichick thing, too. Like, we're just going to keep running that play. And so to have that happen to them that had to really suck. And I felt like Jalen Mills, I don't know if he was in a bad spot. But once he was behind him, it was like, it didn't matter how fast he was. It's like, it's over. Once you're in that cut split. Yeah, once you're in that cut split.

Once again, that's a guy with juice, and he's in that tight split. Something about guys running across the field, they get a little bit faster. Everybody gets a little speed burst. So it's just about putting the ball on him. And he laid a very easy, catchable ball and walked to the end zone and did a little, a little taunting at the end. He did, but they can't call you when it's over. Yeah, big game, man.

Big win. Cowboys are winning games that typically they don't win, man. They look. It's different. It's damn good this year. It's different. I'm ready to admit that. Okay, but Darius, Chris is diplomatic.

If you're coached by, say, a Mike McCarthy type, are you aware of things like the timeout at the end of the half? Are you thinking about kicking that field goal in the fourth quarter from 51 yards? Fuck yeah, we're thinking about that. These mojo moments, like he's, I don't. He's anti- Mike McCarthy. Most passing yards in a win versus a Bill Belichick coach team, Dachnell has a record at 445.

It was Kurt Warner. Damn, he threw a 445 a day? 445. Kurt Warner had that number by 401. Mike McCarthy, we're just, we're letting this guy skate. Is anybody in his ear? I don't know who's in his ear, but we would be in his ear. No players are going to be in his ear.

We may be, you know, you may be talking a little crap to him. But, I mean, come on, you saw, I didn't get it, leaving 20 seconds on the clock, like, just giving him a chance. He's had, so he's had probably a handful of those. moments in the last couple of years. I don't know what it is. Maybe he needs to pass off the time management to somebody else, man. Because that's a thing. They do that.

Some coaches do that. No, like he said to a 10 year old. Like literally coaches have guys that are their time management guys. People at home don't know that. Clock manager is a big part of it. Jeff Fisher was real good at that. I know a lot of people give Jeff Fisher a lot of shit. But he was a tremendous game manager.

He knew all the new rules and all that stuff. Some coaches are clueless when it comes to that. That's a fact. It's really. There's a big, you know, delta there between some of the good ones and some of the bad ones. What result are you more concerned about? Are you more concerned about the Cleveland loss today or the Chargers loss? Oh, man, I would say I'm more concerned about the Cleveland loss.

Just because I feel like this is one of those games where, hey, Baker, you're the guy. You're the franchise guy. We need you to go out there and get us a win. Arizona had every reason to lose this game, every excuse, no head coach. no play caller, you know, all the things that you would think. I know Chub was out and they were missing some guys in Cleveland, too. But this is one of those games where, you know, number one pick, the guy that's, you know, should be getting paid pretty soon here.

This has been the question of, hey, can this team win a championship with Baker as their quarterback? And, you know, he gave him a fighting chance, but it wasn't enough to get him over the top. And this is a, Arizona's a damn good ball club, man. They came out, I think, surprising a lot of people at, what, 6 and 0 now? Yeah. impressive. I know Cleveland was down there two tackles too, which is big in that O line,

but, you know, no excuses, no explanations, man. Baker, you got to get it done. I agree with you and two tackles. Also, you know, Chubb, who you mentioned, some other injuries as well. So they were really, and they were without OBJ for a little while. I think both those teams, the Chargers and the Browns, although you and I hope never played in a game where there were 99 total points or 89 total points or whatever it was. but I think they were wiped. I think both those teams, and we should have seen it, we were talking about.

I think they were wiped, dude. I think both those teams were wiped, and I bet the Brown's like a fool. You know, they were at home and everything, but that's a long trip coming back from playing the game that probably felt like it was seven quarters long. You don't play big 12 games in the NFL like that. You put a 500 yards of offense and you lose,

like that's got to be draining. Then like you said, Chargers, same thing with the game. and then having this by week coming up. I should have kept that one off my ticket, especially with Lamar on the other side. Dude, yeah, this is twice, two weeks in a row because I was on your Colts last week,

and it was the right side, man. It was the right side unless there's Lamar Jackson on the other team, so I'm not betting against the Baltimore Ravens anymore this year. Amar's the real deal. He is the real deal, and we've made this point here that, you know, if you went MVP by the definition exactly of the award,

like we're not even talking about it. You know, it's a conversation. Because their team is just not that good. And I could not believe the way. And every team has do a stinker like that. But Baltimore sure putting on those fucking guys today. Here's what I got to ask you. DVs, what are we doing at the end of the first half in the Arizona game?

Like, are you guys all just screaming at the TV? First off, why are there two dudes in the end zone? And why can't somebody just knock it down, dude? Hey, that's one of those things where, You practice it, you walk through it. That's probably like one of the last things you do on Saturday walk through. And you only really, you never get live reps in a practice. The only live reps you get is in the game.

And, you know, when that ball goes up in the air and it's really that moment, everybody just kind of scrambling every time. And I've never seen on film where everybody actually does their job because everybody actually has a specific role on that help mirror. Hey, we got some guys that are backstop. We got some guys that are supposed to be in front. And then you got a guy that, if this, If this is, you know, the receiver facing the quarterback, I should be face to face with him

kind of jumping into him. So everybody has a role. Yeah. But what's that ball gets in there? Everybody kind of gets lost. Some guys probably trying to go up and get a cheap pick. Of course they are. And the receiver go up there and get a tub, man.

That's, that's happened. I've been on the other side of that. So I can't talk too much, crap. Dude, I've seen it in training camp practices to just ruin a practice, like for the defense. And for it to happen in the game, it almost got ugly for him there as that distance closed a little bit. Darrys Butler. That was a lot of momentum. Deris Butler, who's been gracious with his time.

I do want to say this. Probably my favorite dude breaking down the back end stuff defensively out there. And I got to ask you, Darius, when you watch TV or you're watching the games, we're all particular. We're not going to talk about announcers we don't like, but is there one that you really think gets it when it comes to the back end? Oh, man. No. Yeah, I don't feel the same way about the fucking front.

Yeah, I mean, Lewis Riddick is the best. Lewis Riddick gets it. But, you know, part of it is the angle that we watch that. You can't really see, you know, the safeties and the thing. If you kind of get that behind the quarterback camera, which the average fan probably wouldn't want to watch. I was won it. Honestly.

I mean, I would want it. End zone. I know I would want it. Just, yeah. Why can't they do one end zone? And we pick at the beginning of each game for DirecTV. Which do you want to watch? 10 years.

Exactly. Fucking take all my money. Take all my money, dude. Yeah, we need that. Yeah, we need that yesterday. Darius Butler, thanks for joining me, man. Appreciate it. Check them out with Antoine Bethay.

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We'll have him back again. We also have some more mentions. I forgot to mention viewing party. I mean, what was it like being Cliff Kingsbury early in that game and you're clapping and your face hurts because you're fake smiling a little bit? Who are you watching that game with?

Because just the awkwardness of the other. person wondering you're only human you're excited about your team but do you feel weird about it too yeah don't put a 50 burger on the scoreboard yeah let's fucking stop at 30 and shut it down which they did it even got a little tight yeah got tight that was good they could have used me at the end could use me at the end so tight that some people might have uh bet cleveland on the money line there at some point oh yeah at 20 to nothing a little sprinkle little sprinkle and then it went and then it know 2314? Yeah,

they got close. They got close. And everybody got hurt. Everybody got hurt. That's another thing. Darius is worried about Cleveland. I agree with that. I mean, like, it's a bad way to lose a football game, but

they got a lot of guys down right now. I don't know what happened with Kareem Hunt at the end either. There was one picture at the end, slow motion. That's not a picture, really. I sound old, but it was a slow motion replay. And Beckham was dropping a fourth down as they were going into commercial. and in the background Cream Hunt was like going down

Rithing in pain and I was like this is the Cleveland Browns right now Nightcap I got a shout out a couple guys here and I'm going to take a shot of Oh fuck it We'll do Whistle Pig again Oh fuck it indeed Chris

I got Randy Gregory man I'm giving it Randy Gregory This guy has had an up and down career You know like really talented I like his game I think he's a really good rusher. I just think he needs some stability. I mean, he needs a coach like Dan Quinn.

He needs stability. He needs not being buried in depth behind guys that, you know, I think he probably felt like he shouldn't have been buried behind with Nolan last year. This kid had two sacks, big stage, 4 p.m. game. One of them was just a hellacious bull rush. The guy can really rush. He can really rush. Another guy today, Crosby, I think our guy,

Max had a damn near a hat trick. I felt like Denver. He had three. That sucked. That feels really good for him. Yeah, but good for him, but bad for you. And you are, let me tell you something,

Reed. You are really into the Broncos games, even when they're not competitive. You think something's going to happen that could change the fortunes of your team. Gotta believe. The St. Louis Memorial Award, Frank Gore,

bawling out in obscurity. Obscurity cowboy. Look, Cortland Sutton, Denver Bronco. Yeah. Really good football player. Seven for one, 20, and one. Would have had a walk-in touchdown if a little bit more air under that pass in the second quarter.

Moving on from Bridgewater. The Broncos are holding Bridgewater back. That's the take. No, I just don't think they're that good. Sorry, Reed, but you do. You are an amazing fan because, you know, Macon's watched games with me before. I'm like, I'm very, very cynical.

I mean, there is a lot of purity in Reed. cheering for the Broncos in two-minute down multiple scores in the fourth. Trey Hendrickson, who people are never going to respect, because they're always going to think of as the high motor guy opposite Cam Jordan. This motherfucker is having a good year. Five and a half in Sincere, and I don't know, shout out Trey. That's three edge guys.

There were probably more that bawled out. And by the way, on the Browns, this is one thing I didn't want to forget. They don't have their bye week until fucking November, man. Baker's shoulder hurts. Baker's shoulder hurts. The running backs hurt. The offensive tackles hurt. Everybody's hurting.

They're just listening to Johnny Cash on loop. Home Broncos, home stealers up next. Those are, if you want to be a playoff team, those got to be two wins. They've got to be wins. They're maybe not teams you feel like being hurt against. You know what I mean? They're not great football teams, but the Johnny Cash meter is high on those two teams.

Like, damn, they got some physical rushers and that sort of thing. Yes. So, in conference, all that. Hey, man, college football. What say you? I mean, Ed Ordron is out. I don't know all the details.

I just know it sounds like he's running around just spitting game indiscriminately and just like... Yeah, gas stations. Just like indiscriminate game spitting. Yeah. Chancellor's wives. Like, Winsenadi does the, does the Fox News rounds for, for some reason.

They do the Fox News. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. He, uh, go tag is not as funny anymore, is it? No, no. Said he loved a certain former president on air. Did he say that? Yeah, which, which actually they say today. I'm never surprised by that.

I mean, motherfuckers just popping up. But it said, oh, you too. They say today, some players in the locker room didn't take too kindly to that. Oh, you could imagine. Like, Ed, we handed you the keys to a, Ferrari. I want to drive it to the gas station on the Chancellor's wife.

You want a Natty. You can be here, you know, maybe not another seven years, but you can be here another four if you have keep recruiting. He's a shooting star, for real. They were, they were bright for all to see. And the next stop,

hmm, I'll go SEC school D-Line and you're in charge of not by your title, but you're in charge of recruiting. Coach O. That's what he does. Did it Old Miss, became head coach.

Did it at USC came that coach. He can crude. Hey, Iowa. He did it in the blind side. Did it in the blind side? Wow. Reed, nice.

Which I refuse to watch that movie. I've never seen the film. Sandra Bullock, though, America's sweetheart. She's in there. I know she's in there. She's also in a time to kill. And Tim McGraw.

She's also, oh, nice. She's also in. Speed. You might want to check that out. She's also in Speed 2. Nice. She's also in my phone as Chris's saved contact. Why is that? Oh, you weren't in here

that day when I told it? So I had a huge crush on Sandra Bullock when I was a kid. She was peak 90s for me, time to kill, speed. I just named the two, top two. And it ain't three. There's just no, those are the top two. I don't know why there's no three in my head pictures right now, but it's just those are the top two.

but Sandra Bullock was at the SPs and I was there the time I took the guys and we were standing in the back. Brian's in the back and Brian's like, there's Sandra Bullock. Oh, ha, ha, ha, ha. Like, I'll get a picture with you and ho, ha, ha. Brian's trying to get a picture of me and Sandra Bullock, bro, without me knowing. And I'm like, I don't want a picture. Reed, you can attest that I did not want a picture with Sandra Bullock.

Yeah, no, you didn't. Like, not at all. And so when Brian calls her over. Because you were being shy. Well, I just, I don't want, like, it's just, she's Sandra Bullock, dude. Everybody wants a picture with Sandra Bullock. Why do I get a picture with Sandra Bullock? You know what I mean?

You're Kyle Long. Exactly. Howie sometimes. Uh-huh. But anyways, I was like, you motherfucker. She's, like, walking over with Brian. And, you know, we're like trying to leave and everything. And I got to, I take this picture and I look so awkward, dude.

I just look like, I look like I just don't want to be there. And it has nothing to do with, it's nothing against Sandra Bullock. We're the Aspies. But it was just, it wasn't the right time. It wasn't the right time, Sandra Bullock. Yeah, dude, I took an awkward picture with Sandra Bullock. I'd like to have it back. I'd like to have the opportunity back.

If I ever see her, I'll be like, hey, can I get a picture with you? Because I totally butchered the first one. Iowa, the Hawkeyes. Utawa. McCracken. Iowa got their ass kicked this weekend. And listen, jokes over now. When I had Iowa against Penn State, I was like,

Like, sure, I was going to lose that bet. And I kind of relatively loaded up. And that kid got hurt. The whole game changed. So I was lucky to win that week. I will never bet on Iowa again, okay? And I sure didn't bet on them this week. The boiler makers beat them.

And then a kid with the last name Long chugged a beer on the field. Very cool. Yeah, very cool. Good for the brand. Big, big weekend for the Longs, man. Ruckers guy, Chris Long, reinstated. Paintball incident, reinstated.

Good for him. Yeah. Good for him. Good for him. And the guy at Iowa, obviously. Purdue Offensive Lyman, Greg Long. Yeah, Greg Long. Greg.

You Longs, you don't really come up with the creative first names. Just monosyllabic. Yeah. No. Waylon. Waylon. Crazy with Kyle. Waylon.

Oh, no. Waylon, yeah. You broke the seal. Yeah. Good on you. Yeah. Luke Longley there. There's a Luke Longley there.

I was worried every time that I said my kid's name. in full I was going to think about Luke Longley. Nothing against him. Nothing against him. That would be a great thing. Luke Longley? Big tall guy with red hair. Yeah.

I made that Georgia, Kentucky line. Pretty much whatever number I wanted. And thanks for, thanks to Mark Stoops for calling timeouts with no point to calling timeouts and going in and scoring at the end. Got to whatever the hell number I needed to get to. People were big mad at Mark Stoops for several reasons, mostly. mostly gambling related. And then had a grand old time cheering on that over in Oklahoma, TCU,

and that under and Old Miss Tennessee. And we got to talk about Old Miss. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Lane train. Lane was getting hit by projectiles. And loving every second of it. Don't pretend for a second like he felt he was in danger. Oh, hell yeah, he loved it, dude.

Range balls, bring them on. Did you see his Ray Lewis quote he posted today? I didn't do. Which I don't even know if I can attribute that to Ray Lewis. It was like tough times don't laugh less tough people do kind of thing. Wayne Gretzky said that. Yeah, like Michael Scott. Uh-huh.

You know what I mean? So, yeah, Lane knows he's fucking around. But I lent him some support. I support Lane Kiff and I survive projectiles at Charlotte. I got dejected from a game and they threw a bottle at me. Jerk. Guilty is charged, man. A punched a guy.

Yeah. With his face mask gone. Yeah, I survived that thing too. And they were raining spittoons and glass bottles down there. Man, it was like a, it was a shit show. Lane kept his head up, caught a bottle. Yeah, mostly. Mostly caught it.

I don't know if he completed the catch. Last thing I'll say about college football this weekend. Didn't make a football move. I think America realized there's a guy on Kentucky with six fingers on one of his hands. Oh, right, right, right. Yeah, it's my guy. Could have been me. If they didn't cut my six finger off at Santa Monica, UCLA Medical Center.

So wherever you are, doctor, whoever did that to me, could have been me. You probably turned out differently because you would have been the six finger. You might not have had that high a motor. It might have had a lower motor. Yeah, I might have relaxed a little bit. Yeah. Rested on your cool six finger. Yeah.

So it makes that kid good, though. He plays hard and he's got 11 fingers. J.J. Weaver. J.J. Weaver. Hey, JJ, Weaver, since you're listening, I had six fingers too, but I want to let you have the whole viral moment. Oh, by the way, game ball, Lamar Jackson. Not going to overthink it, guys, before we sign off. I'll give one to Dag Prescott.

Sure. His career, when the game is tied in the fourth quarter overtime, 78.7% completion, 848 passing yards, nine touchdowns, zero interceptions. Two guys are football players, man. They're fucking football players, man. You want them on your team. I got that from a tweet. If you want attribution, just type in the words I just said

and you'll find the guy who tweeted. That's a really... Well, hey, only so many hours in the day. Apparently not. If you keep running the days together like we're doing right now, I reckon they're limitless hours in the day. Y'all take care.