Green Light with Chris Long - Darius Slay! Eagles 2024 Outlook, Vic Fangio, Cooper DeJean, Nolan Smith & Quinyon Mitchell! Nashville Road Trip Recap!

Episode Date: June 28, 2024

A great episode on a Friday! Chris and Nate start today's show off with an entire trip recap from our journey to Nashville. They cover the float trip down the James River in southern Virginia on Sunday, the drive to an amazing waterfall on Monday, Chris and Quenton Nelson's performance at Bussin' Beer Games and the return trip on Wednesday. Nate came up with a few ideas, Chris had some all time quotes and the vibes were high. And then it's time for Chris Long and Darius Slay - a pair of Eagle legends. Chris and Darius cover the Eagles outlook for 2024, the 2023 season and the lessons Big Play Slay took from it, Darius' Madden skills, the development of his new defensive backfield teammates Cooper DeJean and Quinyon Mitchell and playing in Vic Fangio's defensive scheme. (00:00) - Intro (2:25) - Green Light's Nashville Road Trip Recap (38:20) - Darius Slay on the Eagles 2024 Season, Working with Vic Fangio, Mentoring Cooper DeJean & Quinyon Mitchell, Nolan Smith's Inevitable Jump and Being a Podcaster Want your Green Light Merch so you can look exactly like Chris and the fellas? Hit the website below and get kitted! https://stores.kotisdesign.com/yotehouse/products Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxWFAA-wuB7osdiAJyLOcw Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Does the Devin White thing excite you? I just feel like he's the type of guy can make play sideline to sideline. Man, I was excited by that sign. I kind of had a vision. Right after we kind of played Tampa a little bit, I said, man, if Devin become a free agent, I can see him coming over here.

Just because it's a feel like it's a fit for him. You know, we need a linebacker. Because you know, you've been here. Yeah. You know, we've been D-line driven. Always. You know, so it's D-line driven. So they just need a linebackers to be able to hit and run.

And he does a good job over that. And he can cover. So I think Howard did a great job of finding that with Devin White. Welcome to the Green Light podcast. Back in Studio J in Charlottesville, Chris and Dr. Fax have survived the road trip to Nashville. They made it. We made it. We're all back.

We had a great time down in Nashville with Bustin and the boys and the crew. Everybody had a great time of beer games, a wonderful event, wonderful hosts. The road trip there and back was a treat. we get into it this entire episode. Chris and Dr. Fax recap the trip, talk about the highs, the lows, the best parts, the adventure along the way, beer games,

how fun it was to meet and hang out with Quentin Nelson, all the other guys at the event. And then we've got Big Play Slay, Darius Slay, Philadelphia Eagle joins us to talk about the Eagles' outlook for 2024, how he's lining up in the Vic Fangio defense, some of those young defensive backs with the Eagles, Cooper DeGine, and Quinnion Mitchell. A couple of the free agents,

signings how we brought in this season like Devin White and CJGJ and they talk a little podcasting in Madden. A wonderful episode for you today. Make sure you tune into YouTube not just for the Darius Slay interview, but for content over the weekend. We're going to have

some good stuff for you. Bo's Pickleball event and a video of recap from Nashville. Check it out. It'll be great. Y'all enjoy. We're back. We're back. We're back. I, uh, I was so exhausted this morning. For people at home, this is what's happened the last week.

Nate, yeah, you got to put your mouth near the microphone. He's firing up a backwoods as we speak. What I've discovered about Nate over the course of four days traveling in an RV with him and Reed is that Nate's cycle is consume content repeatedly on loop in the back of the RV, sleep and smoke a backwoods and fish like if you have those four things you're happy so the the the backwood smoking part was this isn't hate yeah this isn't hate but i didn't know this until riding in the RV for a long time but i guess i get motion sickness and you whip that RV

that's true like it's uh maybe a f-150 which which at sometimes switching lanes and hitting up and downs it feels like a boat your stomach gets turned and then i being a not an expert on an RV trip i was sitting with my back yeah you guys like during the trip there and that was the worst bro that's that's like rule number one a fight club but i didn't know that yeah Like to me, I was sitting, I was sitting where there's space, there's room, whatever like that. We had all this stuff. So I was like, I'm just going to sit here. And then I quickly, I was like, oh, every 30 to 45 minutes, I'm feeling like I'm about to be sick.

Did you realize that 16 hours of driving into the trip? Um. Because late in the trip, you started sitting right next to me in the front. Yeah. And then you didn't like the speakers being so close to you because we were blasting Metallica the last hour. Oh, no, it was fine. Like, but I figured me sitting in the front. it probably would have made it better because I'm like, oh, I'm going to sit passenger seat.

Like my stomach should be fine. It should be whatever. And the only thing that was helping it was being asleep. Matt wants to talk about the wallet thing, which was like you asked what the low point the trip was. Somewhere outside of, somewhere outside of, where were we, read, Knoxville? We just went through Knoxville. Stopped at a Croker. So for people, okay, let me back up.

For people listening, busing with the boys, calls me like, well, Will calls me, Compton, like six months ago. And he's like, hey, do you want to do the beer Olympics? And last year I wanted to do it, it was in Nashville. And I was like, yeah, I'll do it. I like the boys. I'm a big fan of Will's. I mean, I've fucking been following Will since he got out of league. I think he's so funny.

And so, yeah, I agree to it. And then I find out it's in Vegas. And, you know, I'm not as excited. and they'd pair me with Dean Blandino. We talked about this. I kind of called and complained. Oh, my God. Such a great.

That was smart. That was good paired with Quinn and Nelson. Yeah. No, to, yeah. Quinn Nelson. To not be paired with Dean. Now, Dean's cool as fuck. No, but like beer games, terrible.

But I need an o-lime. So anyways, we're supposed to go to Nashville. I'm like, hey, let me turn it into a thing. The wife, the kids, they're going up to the beach. She's like, no problem. She knows for me, if I don't get my outside time, if I don't get my independent time. I'm not fun to be around.

So she's like, go ahead. We take the RV through Virginia, Tennessee, to Nashville, and back. And we stop at the James River Gorge, which is a James River's River. We float almost every week. But we had never done this stretch called Balcony Falls. There's just like a class three rapid in western Virginia. It's a beautiful place. Like a gorge is like mountains on both sides and the river's cutting through.

And, you know, there's big boulder fields. And I took Nate and John and Reed and we got in the RV and we went. And you were so excited to get there that we scheduled a taxi to pick us up at the end instead of reshaving car. Yeah, I didn't want to take 30 minutes, an extra 35 minutes to get on the river. I just wanted to get on the river. So we get on the river. We hit balcony falls. It was awesome.

Almost all of us made it through. Nate was like, fuck this. I'm not going through, not my fishing kayak. So he portaged around the rapids. we were really responsible we didn't take our edibles of the earth until after balcony falls but i'll tell you that float was not over i mean that is uh there was a point where i was looking at nate and it wasn't the type of float where you could stay right next to the guy like you had to choose your own path and go and Nate was in the matrix the float was not fun the float was not fun

it was a step up mainly mainly because the rocks on that float they blended in too well they blend it in too well and it was very rocky and it's like every two minutes when you think it's oh you find a clear nice path it's boom boom and and it's not fun when you're on mushrooms and maybe you're pushing a fishing kayak and maybe you didn't sign up for something like this maybe you just wanted to catch a couple small mouth but i seen an eagle grab a fish out the water that was that made to the side to start eating it and that that made me feel good when i seen that What was that other thing you saw on the water? That was that thing?

I swore that there was a drain sticking out of the water that had like some mesh cage around it. Like so like water can go through like some type of like flood system. And I was so fixated on it. And I was telling Reed, I was like, read. I was like, what is that sticking out the water? And he's like what? He's like to the point that he's getting frustrated because he doesn't know what I'm talking about. And once we get closer, it was just a big rock.

Yeah, you were tripping. And so we get to the end. We do some fish, and Nate's catching little fish naturally. And he's basically waterboarding him. He's putting him back on the hook and fishing with live sunfish. Off this 40 foot bridge. He's got this guy, this fish doing Greg Luganis. A five-pound calf fish like that, bro.

I was just saying, I don't know if that's legal or okay. But after the 10th cast, he pulled it back in. He was like, look, it's still alive. It's still alive. And then he would touch and be like, see it moved? That poor fish was dead. And so we pull off.

We camp one night. And then we end up outside of Cookville, Tennessee. Okay, because I don't want to docks the place we were, but it was tremendous. And I think everybody should get outside. And if you want a place to take the wife and kids or if you want to take the fellas, it's perfect for both. Just do some research. You'll be able to find it.

You'll be able to find it. It's a waterfall outside of Cookville. ville, Tennessee. And it's a big-ass waterfall. And we got this cabin right next to it. So we parked the RV outside. And we spent the afternoon swimming under a waterfall and fucking walking up and down Smith Creek or Spring Creek. Spring Creek, which is a Tennessee River. And it was just magic. It was like where they filmed last, the Mohicans. That was what somebody said and it made perfect sense because they filmed that movie in the Smokies. I love the state of Tennessee. Wish it was a little less wide, but I love the state of Tennessee. We had a great time camping slash glamping at that

spot. And then we pulled in Nashville the next day for beer Olympics. Okay. Now we get to Nashville for beer Olympics. What? You talk about the accident? Wait, wait. Wait, what you don't want to talk about? No, no, no, we can talk about it. I ripped the damn, I ripped a superficial plastic piece off of the side of my, uh, well, it really was, it's not anything. It does anything. You know, it's just plastic. No, but I know you want this to be like, you want me to be embarrassed, but I'm not. But you, but you messed up the gutter on the, on the Airbnb. I'm getting there. Okay.

I'm getting there. Which was really the host's fault for telling us. I don't want to say all that. I should have just said, hey, buddy, I don't want to pull in this alley and have to back the trailer out tomorrow. You know, and Nate, who didn't lift a finger to help anybody the whole trip, including right here. I mean, we were carrying his bags and shit. Nate's the guy that, that, that I rolled up on on the Rivana River with some. somebody pulling him and his gal in a tube with a kayak.

You know, like he just, he's not going to give a bunch of effort. But he's a great hang. So through this whole process, I'm trying to back the RV out. And didn't slam it into the gutter, but definitely rubbed the gutter. And, you know, the four winds is a 24 foot class C camper. You know, it's going to do some damage to a gutter. And what's that gutter doing there anyways? There was a downspout that would have done just fine to the right of it.

And, you know, there was a sewage pipe that made it really hard to cut the trailer. And so we were Jack Knifing and I had to get creative. And I crashed the fucking trailer. That was only the second low point in the trip. The third low point was after the beer Olympics. And this is what Matt wanted to talk about, which was we pull up to a Kroger in East Tennessee. Okay. And read, I love you.

And you didn't lose the wallet. Hold on. But sometimes it'll be like, you didn't hear a word I said or you'll say something that's just like a non sequitur and i'm like oh that was weird and then we'll just go about our business and i'll find out why later okay so we're pulling up to croger and i say i think i need to find my wallet i don't know where it is reed climbs out of the passenger seat says i think i got you and starts to walk back towards the back of the RV so i assume he knows where my wallet is i walk into croger and we're getting ready to pay and reid's like i'll pay for you since you don't have your

wallet. I go, I don't have my wallet. I thought you said you had the drop on my wallet. And we had a miscommunication. Which I swear I saw I have my wallet. I've got us covered. No. I know. Yeah. We're sorry. We're sorry. In this case, you just weren't listening. Yeah. And that's okay. You didn't lose the wallet. But, but you answer quick and you were just like, don't worry like I'll, like I'd take like, but he had the right call, which was that when we, we popped the extend out, the, the slide extend ate the wallet. It was on the ground. Yeah. Okay. So, whenever the slide, whoever put the slide out, who put the slide? I think I put the slide. Oh, wait. To leave? Who put the slide in? Was it me? I don't remember. Yeah. So I just, I'm,

I've lost my wallet. I'm driving home and I'm thinking we've lost the wallet and we're looking in another campsite and you guys are like, maybe we can camp again. I'm like, we're not fucking camping again. I want to drive six hours and get home. Like, I just was dejected. I've lost two wallets in the last two weeks. And I'm texting Taylor LeWan and I'm like, hey, can you look for my wallet he was a great host taylor juan yeah he was and it's his house the house is like fucking arc digest it's like beautiful it's gorgeous it has a beautiful pool behind it has multiple outbuildings his man cave could qualify like i'd live there like just in the man cave 30 foot ceiling yeah okay beautiful backyard this place in Nashville is gorgeous i'm not going to say where it is

but he did he promised we'd have a spot to camp in his yard and i felt like i was in the best air and be on the planet. Now, we were the only people that, that invited ourselves to camp at his house. Everybody else was at a hotel, but we weren't doing that. So we had the RV pulled up in the back with the generator running right by the pond. There was a point at midnight where I'm sitting in there with Taylor and Will and Dennis Kelly and Graham Glasgow, just a bunch of O-Lyman and me. And I'm like, Taylor, I wonder if Nate's caught any fish in your in your pond yet. And he goes, oh, yeah, you're a producer? I go, no, the black guy with dreads. There's a black guy with dreads fishing in your pond as we speak.

And the whole room just erupted with laughter. Because I don't think Taylor knew what was going on. And we were camping in his yard. We were fishing in his yard. We were using his cold tub. I woke up the next morning with a bit of a hangover and just walked into his backyard like I owned it and used the fucking. We ordered door dashed his house. I mean, we were just setting up shop.

Don't mind if I'd do. I have my ball sack out. You know, just just. Nate did ask Taylor. and Taylor walked, he was like, what's off facts? Facts are like, can we fish in the pond? And Taylor was like, you do whatever you want, player. So he knows you as facts.

Yep. So that's what's great. And so the guys, beer Olympics, we roll up at 11, and the thing starts at like noon. They got Jersey Jerry butchering the national anthem in a referee suit. I roll up, you see 40-0 linemen, Delaney Walker. Waka-Flock. Waka Flak of Flames is there, dude. Who, I got to say this.

I don't think I've ever met a rapper that I like more than walk of block of flames. And I've met a couple rappers and they've been really cool. Yeah. But this motherfucker is a football player. I don't care what. I know I heard he could hoop. He's about 65280 right now. Yeah.

And is not out of shape. He's just a big motherfucker. Looks solid. And he is, I could tell he could do a little white boy in, dude. That guy would fit in beautifully on the river. This dude was amazing. I hope he comes on the show at some point. I didn't get his information or anything.

He was vibing, dude. We got to go fishing. He's talking. We got to take him fishing. Delaney Walker said he's going to take you fishing, hunting down to his ranch or whatever he's got in Tennessee. It was just good vibes. People hanging by the pool, playing beer pong, playing Flip Cup, which I don't know how to play, evidently. You know, like, the only time I ever played Flip Cup was one-on-one.

They had like six-cup flip cup. And so for me, who had been in the yard with Waka-Flocka-Flocka, like most of the entire midday portion pre-flip cup, walk up and I'm just happy to be there I don't know about you guys but when I get invited to a beer Olympics I'm not really there to win the thing I'm there to drink some beer and hang out with people and and chill by the pool that's where you could find me that's cat that's not cap that's cat why are you doing this because this cat why because you're embarrassed you didn't know how to play flip coat no not at all you're doing the thing you did it with the RV now you're doing it with this thing you can't help yourself you're a troll like I'm not upset at all in fact me and quentin Nelson

told each other before the beer Olympics that we don't care and that's what makes it dangerous and we live we lived that way and we didn't we didn't come close to winning beer pong we were a little a little bit better

won a game who'd we beat in beer pong you'll beat Dean we beat Dean Dean and um who was he playing with Dean Blandino yeah yeah that's right yeah I didn't want to play with him yeah I'm embarrassing that would have been if Dean had beaten me

it's like I getting passed over Justin Jefferson coming to Philly and JJ Ortega White's side goes off or something like that he was JJ. I was playing with Jefferson. And you guys had a good battle against Michael Chandler and Eric Wood. We did. Okay. So here's the deal. I just want to say this.

This bothers me because I know how to play beer pong. Oh my God. And so I actually take some pride in this. Not too much, but some. And there was a moment there where me and Quentin Nelson thought we were going to beat the team that ended up in the finals in Eric Wood and Michael Chandler, those guys were tanked by the end of the day by the way. To go deep into that, I don't want to drink beer.

The first thing you do when you get out there is you have to drink three beers out of a boot. Like that's the first thing. Yeah. And then you continue to drink and you play flip cup and you play beer punk. Anyways, we get up there and I'm starting to get a little drunk, right? I didn't spend the boot properly. Okay?

Like that's another thing. Like I just don't know how to do these fucking games. I've been drinking. You know this. I could drink most people on the table, but I don't play games. I just drink. And so when he came to Flipcup, I didn't know When he came chugging the boot

There was like a couple drops of beer left in the toe And these fucking barstool referees are docking me And shit, these fucking pencil necks They're like, oh, fine, you gotta finish the whole thing So we get docked for that And then we end up playing fucking beer pong Against Chandler and Wood Me and, you know what?

We should have named ourselves How did you say the Valamuharis Or being Game of Thrones? Valer Morgalus. Valamorgalus, what is dead may never die? Because that's that, we were like, we don't care, you know? But when we got to the finals, that should have been our team name. We didn't have a team name.

It was like Chris and Quentin. We get to the finals and we're playing Eric Wood and Michael Chandler, it's the last point of the game. We come back a couple cups down. So they sink the final shot. It's one cup to one cup. They sink the final shot. Then Chandler misses.

Wood hits the shot. Chandler misses. It comes back to me and Quentin Nelson. Hold on. Can I tell the story? You're going to tell me how I feel? No. Go ahead.

You want to tell me how I feel? Tell me how I feel. The final shot that they made, you understand that's game over, right? What I'm telling you is I don't understand that. But that is. But that's the disconnect. But that's the disconnect. Not everybody because there were a couple people at that fucking event that say that's not how I play.

Here, I'll tell the end of the story. Universally. Can I tell the end of the story? Yeah, go ahead. It was going good. Okay. So there was one cup left and, and I sunk it. Like I blacked out and sunk it.

After they made it. They made that. That's right. You're listening. So I sink the shot. Which means overtime. Anything else? I'm just trying to help the people for who don't know how to play.

I think they know what's happening. I don't. I think they know what's happening. So once you hit that cup, that means overtime. Okay. Now what happened after I hit the cup? Quit your partner. It should not be that way.

Your partner shot the ball. Okay. I understand. You're asking me what happened. Let me explain. Your partner shot the ball. It was a rhetorical fucking question. Your partner shot the ball.

And he sank it also. So which means... It went two for two. They went one for two. Which means... In a penalty kick in fucking soccer, if you went two for two and the other team went one for two, the team with two cups down wins.

I know. Nothing about... But it's also not... Bro, it's house rules, bro. It's house rules. So why are you fighting the house rule? I'm not. What I'm saying is it shouldn't be that way.

But like... So you couldn't even let me get to the end to say it shouldn't be that way. I'm fine with you. If you ask people, like if you ask people, if we put a poll up, like, no one in House rules is playing that way. No one's going to agree. No one. Like, who's going to agree if I win the game that you have a chance to make two shots and trump our win? I don't know a couple people.

I don't think so. I think majority no when you play beer. Oh, maybe majority. But you know what the majority of people like, Imagine Dragons. I fucking like. They got some fire song. You like, you stick with the majority. I'll just make good points,

which would be that when a team sinks one of two to put the pressure on the last team, the last team sinks two shots, which, by the way, it was electric. The beer pong league is missing out on a great storyline here, which was that we, we stepped up in one when the chips were down, when our backs were against the wall. I'm your biggest supporter, bro. I'm your biggest supporter, bro. And it's just like, nah, that doesn't.

But there's no one asked you to support or not support. I'm giving an opinion. Your opinion is not relevant to me right now. Like you know like at some point. Electric moment, but it was just for overtime. Can I finish? Can I finish? Can I finish? Can I finish? Is that going to be possible today? Or can you not handle your backwoods? Yo, go ahead. Go ahead. Okay. So we sink to. I chest bump Quentin Nelson because like me and Q at this point are like fucking teammates. dude like i feel like i was on a team with quentin nelson like quentin nelson's the type of guy i can't say enough about this kid he's first off he's an absolute unit doesn't carry i dresses he's wearing like white mid-length socks like some athletic shoes some khakis that make his thighs look like

tree trunks in a fucking maroon t-shirt like he does not care dude dude dude just rolls up he's like let's drink some beer you know we're out in the backyard talking ball and shit he was down there fax was down there he's coolest kid ever dude Nate gave or uh reed gave him a music recommendation he actually hit me up this morning and said who was that artist that you said because i like that's charles brusley godwin so anyways we put we put quentin on to some music we're having a great time i chest bump this motherfucker which feels like running into an oak tree yeah and he gets excited and throws jack the mustache fucking adonis of a human being that runs the show over it i don't know why he's not on the air it's he's Taylor and will they need to put Jack on the fucking air

jack is the man jack's got five phones two Bluetooth audio devices three fucking go pros like just a bunch of producer shit man on mission and Quinn Nelson takes him and I watch it happen he could have just chest bumped him he just got carried away and through the motherfucker in the pool and to the pool and and then Q comes back and chest bumps me again and just obliterates this pair of sunglasses that I had on some crokeys that I bought two weeks ago. So he chestbooked me during that whole tirade. Yeah. And I almost stumbled into the pool not knowing like how hard of a chest bump, like the force it was going to be. No question. He was very, very solid. He is way strong. You think he's strong. He's even stronger. He's like moving water. Yeah. Your sunglasses found out. My sunglasses

found it out. I got the sunglasses. I gave him to read. I said, we're going to frame those. Are they up here? Yeah. this is what quentin nelson does pro tip if you're playing beer games don't get all physical with the fucking road grader of a man that plays for the indianapolis colts i've seen him do it on tv he did it in my sunglasses so we love quentin nelson and yeah we got eliminated early but while we were sitting in the pool and just kind of walking around freely doing whatever we want to do i'm like these fucking idiots that are still playing they're getting force fed bud lights okay bud light you can come to me with as much money as you want, I'm not endorsing Bud Light. Damn, why are you saying that, bro?

I'm just not a Bud Light guy. Do we have any deals with Bud Light? We do not. No, it's fine. I'm just not a Bud Light guy anymore. Just beep it. It'll be better. But they had the like beer games wrapping over the Bud Light so you couldn't see it was a Bud Light. It's a Bud Light. And it's 105 degrees out, okay? Like, I'm not into Bud Light. I'm just not. Silver Bullet, Miller Light. You know, Fuck, I'll go Guinness in a Pong Cup before I go butt light. So anyways, we got a little bit trashed, had a lot of fun, made some friends. The Waka Flaka thing was a highlight.

And Will Compton was one of the funniest drunk people I've ever seen. You guys weren't here for this. I think you just walked out right before this, but you saw it fucking Shibuzi, and I didn't know who Shibuzi was at the time. He told me to shut the fuck up Shibuzi. and like people laughed at it and I didn't know who Shibuzi was at the time and later on

when I found out I was like fuck Will and I don't even look like Shibuzi just a black guy red I had to look Shibuzi up yeah I'm pretty sure I'm pretty sure you can't do that you know we were talking about this

on the way up because of the whole J.J. Reddick thing we were talking about the you know we were just talking about racism and that sort of thing and I was like bro, if a black guy could have an identical twin, I'm not going to tell him. It looks like his twin. You know, it's just not, it's not important enough to me. You know, like I'll just keep that resemblance to myself. But listen, it was a fun trip. It really took it out of us. Nate caught a few fish. We floated a river that I've really been one to, we swam in a fucking waterfall. Like,

this is what it's all about. And yeah, we got there Tuesday night. I want to apologize to people. I'm going to tell you what happened. Okay, because I'm going to tell you the truth. Here's what happened. We had pretty good internet. But when we got to Cookville and I saw that waterfall, I'm not working. Yeah. I'm sorry.

I am at the point in my career, especially in the summertime, where I'm not going to be a slave to this job. And you're going to be like, yeah, it's just podcasting. You know, it's the easiest thing in the world. You get on with your dad. We tried to bank the episode with my dad last Friday to have it while we were out so we can enjoy things. We had an internet issue. We get to Cookville. it might work but the n-h-l stanley cup finals are on there's a fucking waterfall outside i got a palm

full of mushrooms and i got two of my best friends of the world i'm not gonna lie i was i was kind of scared it it was getting dark fast when we was walking we we hiked about a half mile down this river just to see what was around the corner and nate started looking like man it's gonna get dark down in the collar it was getting dark i was trying to hang back i was like i'm gonna hang back here and fish a little bit so I don't get scared. Like I know they're not scared, but I was like, if it gets too dark, I'm going to be scared. But I also didn't know that we have flashlights. Man, I went right home after all this outdoor stuff and after all this just talking to people

and not being buried in my phone. And I just tied one on in my fucking man cape and played like three games of Madden. Dude, it was incredible when I got home. The dopamine was flowing through me. Nate, you brought up a story with Madden, I think is relevant. Oh, yeah. I was going to tell you, you better be careful who you chirp online. I'm reading the story, a 20-year-old from New Jersey.

Right. First off, it's crazy that people could do this anyway. Right. Fine. Gets mad at someone they're playing online in a video game. I don't know what video game. I'm very intrigued to find out. Arch age.

Arch age is the game? Arch age. I don't even know what that is. Well, I don't play any freaks like this guy. Okay. You don't know that, though. I'm playing guys on Madden. Bro, there's no way for you to know that.

Yeah, there's no way. You know what happens when somebody talks shit to me in the game? I just started doing this two weeks ago. Can I tell you? But look, what if they weren't even talking shit? It's just like if they, whatever, you get matched up. You know, I understand. Bro, but to find the IP and to hop on a flight right away from New Jersey to Jacksonville,

to find this person's house. That's right. And attack them with a hammer. I'm going to put my IP at Kyle Long's house. Surprise, surprise, motherfucker. No, honestly, what I used to do was, what I used to do was just keep my microphone muted and eventually I get mad.

My heart would race, bro. I get so mad when I'm playing video game. Sometimes my heart's racing because I'm sitting there just getting stone trying to enjoy a game of Madden and some guy starts talking shit to me. That's hilarious. Yeah, they score on the first fucking drive.

I'm like, oh, congratulations. You scored a touchdown with the Chiefs, man. Like golf clap, motherfucker. But now what I do is, I just turn on Merle Haggard as loud as I can. and that guy's just got to deal with okey from muskogee or the okey from muskogies coming home or rambling man for the better part of a 40 minute game and eventually they say like could you turn your music off and i said what was that bitch you know like that kind of thing i'm not worried about people coming to

my house another great part of the trip you got to find my house i had i had a revelation who we were driving and we were passing all these nice properties and this is the and i and i i want to purchase a plantation. Bro. He turns to me on the river. We see some house in Western Virginia. And he's like, I'd like to be a plantation owner. Yeah.

Like, what kind of turning the tables is that? And then he goes on to explain it. If you look up the definition of plantation, it's a plot of land growing crops for profit, I believe. Well, you live in an apartment, but you do grow crops, don't you? All right, so, so let me, so let me, not a plant. Let me, let me take it to the plantina. You know what the, you know what the funniest thing about this thing is? I swear to God, he had a whole plant. He's like, I'm just going to get a bunch of white motherfuckers to work the fields. And I said, what are the guys that work in the house look like? And he's like, look, they look like Kingston. And he's going to have, can't have Kingston

outside all day. You can't have Kingston outside. Kingston is going to be like, yes, good idea. But hey, and then the guys in the field, I'm imagine a bunch of Howie Long looking by the fuckers. No, but look. You got Howie Long plowing the field

all day. When I was talking about it, my guy JP said, he was like, I'll fucking pick cotton for you, Nate. So look, if I get a bunch of JPs or guys down Bath County, my plantation will be late. Bro, I'm really supportive. of this venture for you, dude.

Hey, we should start a go fund me. Get Nate a plantation. Now, a plantation, as you heard, is just a plot of land that's growing crops. Yes. And according to Nate. And here in Virginia. Yeah, I got to look that up.

So, like, what's the difference of, like, if you had an orchard, if you just put a big ass house on it? A plantation has people that live there that also work on the farm. That's right. So you're going to have, you're going to have to build a house for Howie Long and John Phillips and Lane. and Lane Johnson and all your big whites. That's cool.

I got a whole idea for that too. Like I'm going to have a tiny house community for all my workers. It's going to be lit. What are the, what are it going to be lit? Now, is this, is this going to be free labor? What do you mean free?

No, nothing in life is free, bro. Okay, explain that. No, they're going to have a place to stay. Oh, so it's really bored. We're going to feed them. Oh. They'll get paid too.

Like, I'll have to. I've heard this before. I'll have to figure. route. I don't think this is very fair to the workers. What the farmers do now and days. I'll get I'll get up to speed with the regulations and the codes. You'd be like Decaprio. Oh, that's crazy. I'm going to roll up on a horse like Jamie Fox. And free Howie Long and fucking John Phillips, Elaine John. Would you, would you, would you, would you, would you fight John Phillips to the death?

If you made us do it in the living room, I'd have to. And I don't feel great about that, but it might be better than Lane Johnson. I'm not going to fight my dad to the death. But I'm not putting my best worker in that position. We're going to be smart. All right. Okay. Anything else for the trip?

One couple quotes I wanted to read out. See if I can tell you where they happened. Yeah, yeah. How elite would a 1741 Native American soldier be if he had Hokka watershoots? Oh, bro, that's me. Tripping. Yeah, bro. I'm imagine if...

I slipped twice on those rocks. Can you imagine if they just went back in time and gave a Navajo a fucking parroth 12's hocus, dude? Like, that guy's going to be like a super soldier. Can you imagine? I was watching you slip. I was like, bro, if you had some hocus, if sitting bowl had some hocus, bro, I don't, I think, I don't even know if we'd be here. You know what I mean?

Being able to scale those rocks. I'd be in Ireland eating potatoes if it weren't for the fact that the Native Americans didn't have hokas. If they had hokas, game over. Game over. If you were a serial killer, would you just grab a camp spot and post up? That's Nate. First, he's thinking about being a slave owner and then he's thinking about being a serial killer.

No, it was just that when we was out there camping, I've never, I've never been camping and then like just seeing and going to like these campsites and seeing like how like just people just do this like yeah it looks like good i always think what i roll into camp by campsite it looks like a great place to like three women up and strangle them like when we got on the water and like what kind of a fucking question is that dude bro just like when with that guy that was sitting on the side of the bank when we got in the water and then like supposedly j p i talked to him and he said he said that he was doing the full stretch of the no we We met a guy who had done the AT four times.

Yeah, but him, but him just sitting there, he looked like, ah, like, yo, what are you doing just sitting there? Like, you're not saying anything. It got me thinking, like, if you were a serial killer, like, it's probably the best bet just to be, like, if you had an RV or you hit camp spots. That's right? Like, and it's cheap, right? The camp spot is. That's a really good point, man. Wait, it's like, what, like $50 to $100?

Like, to get a plot, like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, that's an expensive campsite. And I didn't know that. All right. So without further ado, we're going to get to Darius Slay. We want to let people know why we've been MIA. And, you know, I just wanted to admit that the beer Olympics broke my heart.

You know, because all I wanted to do was win that thing, you know. Quentin Nelson, he's out six to eight weeks. I'm going to break the news here. He's sore from carrying the team. And I appreciate that man and everything he did for your boy. It made me feel so good. After I hit a shot, he chest bumped me and said, that's why you are who the fuck you are. And I said, who am I?

Who am I to you? I was like, did I miss something? Oh, I love that guy. You know who else I like is Darius Slay? Guys got a fun podcast, big Slay. I keep fucking that big play Slay podcast. Say that five times fast. He probably could.

That guy is great on the mic and obviously played a huge role in that trip to the Super Bowl. And I think last year, he was one of those guys I felt for. I felt for the corners because they're good players, the veterans and they got all these guys dropping like flies around them as we talk about in this interview which i think one of the most important things to listen to and one of the most interesting things to listen to is what why specifically it's not just oh there's a bad player or a guy off the street who comes in at safety or nickel or corner it's all the minutia it's

all the nuance it's all the the communication and uh it's really interesting to hear him talk about that stretch and also some of the the new players cooper de jean asking about the guy's paint job. And he didn't know what I meant at first. But, you know, it was nice to hear a corner talk about some of his young players with such excitement because him and Quignan Mitchell are going to help a lot. And the way his eyes lit up when I asked about those guys, I feel like they're on the right track. So there's a lot to talk about with Slay.

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Wouldn't do it any other way. a while ago we got one of the best players on the Eagles who has not been on the show yet came from Detroit one of the best corners in a league for a long time now big part of that team that went to Super Bowl two years ago and he's going to be back in Philly next year welcome to the show Darius Sleigh how you doing how you doing? How you doing? I'm good dude I've been watching you play a long time when you came to Philly I was psyched because I mean as a rusher I know that you guys get us paid and so I was very happy to see that they had some some good corners on the team And the first question I have for you is, HyperX is a gaming mic.

So what kind of gaming you doing? Man, I'm on all the games right now, for sure. MLB, the show, got some war zone. You know, I used to play 2K heavy, not too much of a 2K guy right now, more like MLB and a war zone. That's all I play. It's hard to play more than one game at once for me. You know what I mean?

Yes. I get hooked on the one game and I play it for six months. And like right now I'm on the Madden. You don't play any Madden. I can't play it's cheating, man. Too many cheating, man, because I play DB. So if I'm in coverage and I'll be trying to, it don't correlate. Dude, I agree.

It's don't correlate. It's not realistic. And I just want to say this, like, y'all are great athletes. But sometimes you'll be in like cover three, like in the corners in the flat. And he'll make a play on like the out route at like 15 yards. Right. It's wild. So, yeah.

I'm with you. I don't know, man. It just don't make sense to me. I'm glad to hear that. I get too mad because I take the game too personal. Yeah, and then people start talking trash to you online and you want to be like, hey, I do this for a living.

I do this for a fucking living. You're just good at the game, okay? Yeah. But yeah, no, no, no. I saw you did some game and you got the podcast, the whole thing, man. We'll get talking about that. But my first thing I wanted to ask you was, and I just heard this, I guess, from your podcast was that you were almost a raven last year.

And I didn't even hear about that at the time. Talk to me about what the calculus was for you. after get into the Super Bowl and thinking, hey, maybe I want to come back, maybe I want to go somewhere else. What was the situation of what made you come back? Well, what made me come back, man? I just know the area.

I know it well. Dom, do a great job, man. He's been a good dude, man. Dom was a great dude. He got me back for real because I was kind of like, you know, I'll go with my defense coach, DeNarr. He's now the de-coordinator at Tennessee. And, you know, he gave me a call.

You know, me and him did a had a great relationship. So I was like, man, I'm all right here with Denard right now and get it in. But talking to Don, man, Don did a good job of keeping me here. But even though this is a great place to be, like, it's an amazing spot. Like, it's amazing. But it's just that the fact that, at the time, they weren't, you know, Eagles were offering the money that Gravens was offering. So I'm like, I'm going to go to business.

And it's a business move now. You know, it's not that I want to be there. It's more like business. So, but then, you know, the Eagles came around with Don's. and made it happen. They never get mad at the GM or the owner. They get mad at the player. All the time.

Instead of being like, hey, why don't you pay Darius Slaymore? It's always that issue. I don't understand that. But, uh, man, it'd be, that's just a part of the business, though. I'm glad you came back. And Dom, man, I remember when I got there, the first office I went in was Dom's, that little ass office. They're getting bigger office yet or is it still right there?

I think he don't want a biggest offer. I mean, everybody knows if you go bust that right? they go dom it's right next to the team meeting room if you got some talk about if you need some calm and down it's right there what was it like when he left for that stretch because people kind of joked about and i don't think they fully understand what you guys were dealing with from personnel standpoint but people were like yeah it's dom like dom's not there obviously that it's not the case why you lose the games at the end of the season but was it weird not having, Dom? It's weird not having on the sideline because, like, he, he kind of like, you know,

gets everybody kind of going a little bit. You know, he's going to chop it up with you on the side line. And, you know, he very much plugged in. Like, definitely our Super Bowl year, our Super Bowl year run. Man, like, he had access to getting guys on the field, you know, and that's thing, you know, we're winning. We were blowing the team out. And that's thing, you know, we got Gillie the kid on the sideline, chop it over. Like, he just made the sideline so, like, you know, fun and lit. And he keeps me cool. But, you know what I'm saying? He could talk to him. You know, he just So he's a great dude on the sideline. We used to have Biz Marquis guy, rest of his soul, on the sideline.

That was super cool. And Dom was chopping it up with all those guys. DJ Premier came down to a game. And so when you're in Philly, I don't know what it was like in Detroit, but you know, you're warming up before the game. You never know who you might see. It's just that atmosphere. It's like close to New York and the whole thing and celebrities pop down.

But Dom, to me, his best skill is keeping guys calm, which was the ironic part about him losing a little bit. You know, he's just got to deal with so much shit the whole week that nobody sees. And then his top blue when Buddy put his finger in his face. Right. He's a no-no. No-no. That you don't do that to Dom, man.

Dom is really plugged in everywhere. So, like, he takes care of everybody, man. He's a good dude, man. He takes care of people that's not even on our team. Yeah. He just got a good heart and good guy. So, yeah, he kind of messed up with Dom. Yeah, well, it's great that he's back.

last year, what was the hardest thing about trying to, you weren't defending a title, but when you play into February, which is a new thing for you having played on bad teams through most of your career, I was the same way. For me, it felt like a marathon. It really did. You know, like, did you feel that? And then getting right back on the horse, you know what I mean? And what was the hardest thing about trying to get right back where you were?

The hard part is really just adjusting what for me is just like, when do I go train when I start back picking it up because I kind of pick it up around the same time because my body's so used to picking up around this time because I ain't never made it as far in February. I'm one time in the playoffs one one game going home so it's like I start back working out a month and a half later so now I'm in February I'm still game ready because we're playing in the Super Bowl but how much how much recovery my body needs so I think I'm like okay slate you might need to take a little further into the all season because you just got done playing if they were.

And I think that's why I probably went wrong at with myself. I probably should have kicked it back up around the same time I usually do because it kind of took me a minute to really get going in the season. Yeah, no question. And then, you know, like I think with a lot of the young players, it's hard enough. But when you got guys coming off the street to play DB, and I'm not saying anything, you know, disrespectful, I'm not meaning to disrespect guys that hadn't had a lot of experience

because at one point you were young, I was young. Yeah. But these guys, they're seeing a lot of their first action, and you guys are working different combinations in every week, especially down the stretch. And I'm wondering, could you take us under the hood of what makes that so hard? When you're lining up and you're looking at the other corner and at somebody else, or you got Bradbury playing out of position?

And like what makes it so hard when you're running new people in? It's just the communication part, man, because like, for me, instance, with me and Tay, like, I understand what Tay wants at the nickel position. Like, so if we in a combination, I know Tay would. like, okay, I know for a fact he's going to take the low guy when he ever he stutters, you know what I'm saying? Or if I got a new guy in, he might stutter and might think I still got to do that's in front of me.

Then I got to like, you know, so it's about like the combination and just understanding each other, communicating and talking and just because everybody got different views of the game. Everybody I see different stuff. So I know the best thing about being a DB to be a successful secretary is everybody got to see it the same way. Well, it was like when Fletch and I learned how to play with each other, It was like you didn't have to say a word.

Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. But the difference is when we fuck something up, nobody notices. Never. You know what I mean? So I kind of wonder did that slide feel helpless? Because I'm watching and I know what it's like to show up on Sunday and you're just not good enough right now.

And also on top of it, the mental part. Everybody's looking around waiting for something to go wrong. And when something goes wrong in the first quarter, some guys go in the tank. Quick. Did you feel that? We try to, I try my best as it stick together because this year team, that last year team was a lot younger. A lot of guys went down earlier.

Like, Tay was hurt. He got hurt, you know, re missed a couple of games. So I had a lot of young guys rotate me in and out. So it was like, as a veteran in Lee, it's like, how do I go about it? Because it's like, ooh, me. I was like year 11. I got more years than the whole secondary combined out here on the one time. Oh, yeah, dude.

So it was just, that was just difficult, you know what I'm saying? And with J.B, you know, me and J.B. just try to do our best to, like, you know, help out. But corners is really only good as his safety as he communicate to him sometimes. That's just how it is because if my safety makes me understand what I'm doing and gets me in the right position, because we don't hit a call, we're always on the side of death if you're the far corner. Like, so when younger guys, dumb young guys trying to come in. man, they just like, what's to play? I got to play. I'm doing my job. It's more like,

hey, what's the call? You know, you're looking at the other, like, because I'm not getting it. Yeah, they get tunnel vision. They get tunnel vision. So it's like, hey, so then I had to like, you know, it was just, it was real difficult. But it was like, you know, that's part of leadership as being a veteran on the team. I had to try

to make everybody comfortable as the best way they can because I ain't want to mess them up when they roll playing because I want them to play fast. But so that was a lot that was going on last year. Yeah. Yeah, I wonder if when teams know that you have different combos and young guys in, do you see more motion? Do you see more condensed formations, more stacks and twists coming out of those stacks? Like, do people throw the kitchens sink at you?

Yes. And what's what's crazy is our schedule was set up like that. We know with Miami Dolphins, they move and motion every play. They play San Fran again. They motion every play. Yeah. So it was like, it was like goodness. And like, it was just too much going on.

It's like we played every team that had the moment. most motion is going on everything. When there's some stuff get moving, the young boys get going crazy. Yeah, they do. I just thought that Miami and you all play pretty well because I thought the ends, and you guys did a great job outside, but like, and that's a whole other challenge, but the ends in Sweaty Jay and those guys,

they did a good job in the flats to take away the outside running game and make it harder for them to get to what they want to do. When you look at Miami this year, they had OBJ, they got two of the fastest fucking guys in the world. How do you, what's the challenge when you play an offense? like that.

To make sure them guys like that stay in front of you because we want them to take the long drive because the fact that speed is not recognized no more in the red zone when you get 20 yards in, speed don't matter. He can't run out the back of the end zone. So you try to stay in front of them. So guys like that, you got to because they do for a big play any given time. So my role was to keep these guys in front of us. Let's catch and tackle if we have to.

We make a play. We need to make a play. as they get closer to the red zone, you know, it's not that big of a factor where it comes to speed. Yeah, that's how I play mad. And I just wait until people get in the red zone. I shut them down because I'll tell you, the field's too big out there, especially when you're playing a team like that. You know, and I wonder when Tyreek goes in motion, I always say this about Miami. The play starts when he goes in motion. So, you know, like the play goes from four to six seconds to 10 seconds. And the minute he starts running, somebody could be fucking up. You know, when you got young

guys on the field, what's it like when Tyreek, when you're traveling with a guy like Tyreek and he takes off across the formation? Is it just as, is it way more uncomfortable because you're moving at the snap of the football? Yeah, definitely for him because he got the advantage because he know what he's going. I don't know where he goes stop. I don't know when you go do whatever. So I had to keep my eyes on him and keep running or and with him being already faster than everybody in the league, shoot, it makes it very difficult, man. So he by far one the hardest one to go out like that. Do you think with Vic coming in,

and I had heard rumblings that maybe guys were upset because they weren't traveling with the best receiver and that type of thing, and I understand maybe part of that schematic, maybe no right way to do it. Do you see yourself traveling more this year in Vic's system than maybe the corners in the past, or have you guys gotten any indication of how you might do that?

Well, I'm always up to travel. I told him. I even had to talk with him before. And I just say, hey, man, what if you want me to do? I'm here to do it. That's if that's me traveling or me just standing left or whatever I need to do. I'm willing to do it. So I'm always a team open guy, but, you know, if I need to be traveling, I'll be trying.

But year 12 traveling? Yeah, year 12, man. You know? Hey, that's why we dropped out to the first round of floor. Yeah, what do you think about these guys, man? Like, how are they fitting in? And what's the hardest thing about being a young corner or a safety, you know, making that jump from college to the pros?

It's going to be good, man. I think the young guys going very well. I'm doing my best job, you know, mentoring. That's what I'm good for. I'm good for, like, mentoring kids. But these guys coming in and they're working hard, man. They throw a lot at Dean. Dean as a young kid, he's, he's play every position out there in the secondary, man.

So he's a smart, intelligent guy, you know, and Q, he getting better, slow-so guy, man, quitting very slow-so, very fast, very athletic. You know, these guys coming in and playing. I can see these guys coming on and step on the field quick and fast. because the fact that, you know, we need it. You know, we got younger. In the secondary, you know, we brought Chonson back, a guy that's a ball halt.

I could go out and attack the ball. With these young guys, man, do y'all give Cooper DeGine shit because of his paint job? Because of his paint job? Yeah, he's white. Oh, my. Hey, no, no, no, no, not at all, man. You're like, wow, how did you get here?

What's different about you, man? Like, he's special. Like, I made, well, I ain't met him. Like, I saw Cooper De Dean, his, I saw him in high school playing basketball, right? So I'm just doing some windmill dumps and all kinds of great stuff. I'm like, woo. Like, and then, like, I commented on there, like, literally, like, four years ago. And then he coming back said, appreciate him, whatever.

Then this thing, you know, he gets drafted to us. And then a week before, he kind of said, like, start bench cut. He had Jaylor Ramsey. Oh, yeah, I saw that. I'm like, dang, now we're on thing. He's like, you need to re-work this. You know what I'm saying? He's talking about keeping him in that order.

And hey, me getting cut. Hey, I never play those start bench cut deals because it's always disrespecting one great player. For real. I'm like, come on, man. And then he ended up in on the team. That's so damn funny. But you were cool about that.

Some dudes would be kind of assholes about that. You were cool about that. I like that. Yeah, I'm pretty cool. I'll be taking jokes. I like to play around. Do you think Fangio is a tough coach because that's what I hear.

about him and are you cool with that i mean you had hey we both know mattie p i know the history and yeah and i i rock with mattie p you know but i also know he can be a little over the top with that stuff with the new england stuff and and i wonder does vick compare in a in a way of toughness uh the way he coaches hard the way he talks to guys because that was part of the the question down there was where the guys in miami fans of vick i i've heard nothing but good things about him, you know, but can the guys take the tough coaching? Yeah, I think you're doing a great job right now, man. So, you know, I don't do too many OTA practice.

I'd be at home with the kids and the family. But the times I was down there, he was a good dude, man, respectful. He's quiet, though. You know what I'm saying? He more of a guy, like, got going to his office. He's really more detailed. Like, he tell you from every position what job need to be done and how you do it. and this is how he wanted to look, and he'd go by his day.

So he looked like the type of coach that if you don't do what my job needs you to do, I don't care. Well, how much you get paid, I'm benching you. And that's what you mean. That's what you need. So that's the type of coach you want. Yeah, it's the type of coach you want. What's the toughest thing about playing cover three?

Tough as far as, man, it's dependent on what kind of cover three. If this is a traditional one, it was a tight fire zone. So, traditional ones are the easy. Tell me, tell me like I don't know. no because other than Madden, I never had to do this from back there. The traditional cover three is more of like a loose third. So it's more like you split the difference between one and two and both of them go vertical. But if it's a tight one third, if one come vertical, that's your man totally.

And like the nickel is more like a carry seam guy instead of a flat, flat guy. So would you call that his own match or is that less? Yeah, so it's like a zone match. So that's a difference. Yeah. It's like a fire zone, you know, sometimes. Yeah. Okay.

That's good. I just learned something. Okay, well, all right, tell me this, the hip drop tackle. Have you guys talked about this? Because I feel like you're a guy that ends up in these tough situations. And I don't think there's anything malicious about it most of these times. And it's going to be really tough to litigate. But what does that do to you as a tackler and what is the messaging thing?

Because I'm sure even with the little bit you've been down there, guys are talking about it. Yeah, well, it's going to be, it's a tough task for definitely up a corner because we play the game from the side view. Yeah. A lot of guys, we got to tackle from my angle. Like from the side. We're not like safeties that come head on, line barriers come head on. I feel like it was a tack to corners almost for like because the fact that, you know, if a runnerback come through the hole, we got to come from the side of them.

And most likely, they bigger than us. So they kind of drag us. So we got to pull our weight down and get them down. So it's like it'll be very tough, man. I don't know how to go about that, even though I'm not saying it's one of the best tacklers in the world. But, geez, I need to get them down. I wasn't one of the best tacklers in the world.

I flew in out of control. And from the side, you know, defensive ends as well. We have to end up in these situations sometimes. And I know exactly what you're talking about, where you're like, you know, you want to pull him backwards, you know? And that's just like something I couldn't untrain my brain to do. Has anybody ever did a bigger 180 than C.J. Gardner Johnson? I fucking hate Philly.

And then he comes running right back to Philly. Have you busted his balls about that, that about face. We all talked about it, man. He gave a nice little apology to the fans and stuff. But, you know, he gets it going, man. If you don't know, Chauncee, Choncy gets it going, man. He got a mountain now.

So, but he come play with it. You know, he backs his talk up a lot. So it was funny the fact that he had to come back around in the circle and, you know, it just had to straighten that up. But that's funny. Well, you know what the funniest thing about that guy is to me? And I've liked him ever since he was in New Orleans. So when they picked him up, I was like, yeah, he's the type of dog they need.

But he led the league in getting people to snatch his chain. I think three guys got personal fouls snatching his chain in one season. He must have a mouthpiece on him, dude. Oh, he does now. He's going. I'm talking nonstop. But I just had to ask him one time, say, man, how do you talk this much in the game? Instead, it's energized.

Like, what do you take that? I need to take it. Because I'll be tired in the game, and I can't talk to you. But for him, he's talking every play, every play. And it's good energy. It's great energy, man. He's letting there everybody have it. You know, he's very communicated.

So, but I can't talk that much. I'll be too tired. Me neither. I pick my spots. And then when it comes to new guys, does the Devin White thing excite you? I just feel like he's the type of guy can make play sideline to sideline. You know, and that's something that was missing a little bit last year at that level of defense. Does it excite you? And how does it make your job easier to have a rangey

backer? Oh, man, great, man. He's very athletic, man, fascinating what you think, big guy too. So, man, I was excited about that sonny. I kind of kind of had a vision. Right after we kind of played Temple a little bit, I said, man, if they've been a free agent, I can see him coming over here. Just because it's a feel like it's a fit for him, you know, we need a linebacker. Because you know, you've been here. Yeah. We know we've been here. We know we've D-line driven. Always. You know, so it's D-line-driven. So they just need the linebackers to be able to hit and run.

And he does a good job over that. And he can cover. So that's one thing I think besides, like, you know, we had T.J. You know, T.J. Edwards was, I think he was amazing. Him and Kazir was an amazing combination of running, hitting, and cover. So I think Howard did a great job of finding that with Devin White. Yeah, I love the moves, how he made this offseason. One of the moves I loved the most, they made a couple years ago was Jalen Carter.

Because I think Jalen Carter can be special. with the capital of us and when i watch him he's a guy that makes me want to put my pads on join the team again so i can be like hey motherfucker you could be the best ever you know you're you're that good you could be you could be one of these guys they talk about like the best eagle d lineman of all time he's that talented yeah he's very good what does it have to to be for him to take that next step as a leader because you got fletch leaving you got some guys and kelsey you know you need some of these young guys to to step up a little bit do you see that intensity from this off season.

Yeah, yeah, man. He's approaching it in a different manner. You know, he's a guy that gets going too. So him and Chonsie, they're about the same. They get it going. They go get you a mouthful and go back it up. So, man, he's a different beast. You know, with Fletch, you could just,

he said the same thing as in like, hey, man, this kid could be very, very special, man. If he just, like, lock in and just do this and do that and do whatever, you know, because I'm not in their room every day, But when he out there in practice, he's going. We're in the game. He's going. Nobody's blocking him.

I mean, he made some rushes. There was a rush in the Seattle game that was, I mean, it's just the guys winning that quick are only the best in the league. And the attention that people pay to him already, well, now it's going to be even more with Fletch and those guys moving on. So as far as Nolan Smith's concerned, I felt like Nolan came in and they said it out loud. They were like, this is going to take a minute. You know, we got to work on the body and get him a little stronger and that sort of thing.

But when he's in the game, I really like the way he plays. What do you see from Nolan? And does he look a little different this year? He looks a lot different this year. And one thing I can say by Nolan, ever since I met Nolan, he only, he only know one speed. So he won the guys, you got to watch out for you the own self because he hit teammates and everybody. So even in practice, man, he's the guy that's going to run to the ball for. from the, you know, all coaches from the D-line, 10 yards.

He's not 10-yard guy. He's more like, I'm trying to see, ball, get ball. So he's going to be a special year, man, for him this year, man. Especially after him running up behind a sign all year, I think it'll be very special. That's what I want to see from Jalen, man. The Tampa game, he took off and decapitated somebody five, seven yards down the field. He ran out of the stack. You know the one?

Yeah. And I'm like, when you show me that, I know you can do it. Every time. I want to see it every time. time. So yeah, and having CJ back and that's just the tone setters, man, that's awesome. How about last year? I know you're thinking about getting in and when you play Tampa, you're thinking about beating Tampa, but in the back of your mind, don't bullshit me. You're thinking about maybe playing Detroit at some point. Are you thinking? Are you looking at

the bracket and saying, hey, maybe? I was looking, you know what I'm saying? We just, this is just playoff talk now because it's serious balls. So we looked at the schedule, like, okay, we got Tampa. You know, we beat Tampa. We had their most likely go to Detroit, man. This is, you know, not saying it's saying that any teams of push over in his league, but it's like, this is a good favor for us right now, right now. Because we could have been in a different seed and had to go to San Fran.

Yeah. And they already spinting on us that year earlier. So it was like, all right, man, we could do that. We're not saying we looked over any team. It's just that as a position, I think that was our best position to go into. And I think Howie's smart, because the thing we just talked. talked about the where you get into trouble against the Niners and the dolphins is if the guys in the middle of the field are struggling you know you're not going to be able to hang with those guys

you got to be able to have backers that can run and I think like that's going to unlock being able to play those West Coast you know hyper speed type team so I'm psyched to see you guys this year but I do want to stick on Detroit for a minute would you have pulled or did you pull for the Lions or did you pull for Stafford when they were playing that game. Ooh, I pull, I ain't, that's tough. I'm not going to lie because I'm very much of a big staffer of my fan. Me too. Like, I'm a big fan of staff because I was, like I said, I played one for seven years.

And I'm a fan of Detroit, man, too, as well. The only thing I didn't like about what Detroit did when they said they booed them coming out, like, I understand it's the playoffs. But staff did a lot. He took a lot of beans for that city. And, yeah, he ain't never had none of the best old line like that line got now. Like they got a legit O-line But back when Statswood was playing We had probably like some legit guys

But the complete package Oh no they boys over they got a complete package We had no run game crazy We had none of that None of that and the Rams are proof Like the Rams they got good old linemen But they're not world beaters And what it is

Is if you get that play action going He's unstoppable Oh stop a dog He's incredible Yeah he's so tough too That game was so fucking physical That I know you You felt it because you play.

I mean, like, you and I can tell when we're watching the game, and I'm like, this is a bloodbath. This is, they, they wanted, they wanted it. I knew Stafford wanted it real bad because the fact that he wanted to beat Detroit, but man, Jesus, you can see it. He was, he for sure was cussing everything on that game. Oh, for sure. That's what we said.

We said, that's the oldest trick in the book. They said Amandola and Edelman had a system that when one of them had a concussion, they like would help each other up and ask. like it was a leg injury. Yeah. Everybody know that death was because. Yeah, no question. He's not coming out, though.

He wasn't coming out. That was just a fucking bloodbath. All right. So with the pod, has it gotten you in trouble before? Have you? Because, like, I was always afraid to do it when I played. And, you know, like, not only because when I was a real good player, they didn't really have podcasts.

By the time they had podcasts, I was older. I was a vet. And, you know, I was a good player, but not the type of guy that, like, one wants to get up there after a tough loss and the fans want to hear from me. You were in a situation where you're one of the best players on team and it still, I would imagine was hard. That John was hard because the fact that, like I said, I don't like rolling folks the wrong way, but I do want everybody to enjoy this show.

So to like talk, definitely, you know, we in Philly. So Philly, Philly not trying to hear no excuses, no name, which is cool. I appreciate all the Philly fans because they are amazing. but oh yeah you say anything wrong they go they go find a clip and that clip go go go viral quick every time no question they only get the whole question that'd be the problem they take just a little 10 seconds of it and don't we got how don't we get to the point with how the question even got answered there's no context and aggregators never sleep man and you're realizing that being in the business and playing at the same time that's tough I mean you'll say one thing

and they'll cut the first 30 seconds out where you qualify it and compliment a player. And then, you know, the last 10 seconds is negative or construed that way. I just, I couldn't imagine having to do it, which is why I'm like, hats off to you. Yeah, it's tough. What was the toughest game to record after last year? Ooh, that's San Fran game. Who? That was tough.

I almost said, hey, we got to go to next week. Victory Monday, the opposite of Victory Monday. This is a victory Monday for the pod. We ain't going to be here. this we need to talk about somebody else but because that game was tough because that was the game when you know you got some old eagles legends yeah saying uh we were scared to tackle or they had this many yaks and then they you know then we got beat by 30 so it was so much going on that's like boy slave you say anything they don't want to hear about this game you go get an airful well it's

tough i hate that word soft i don't use that word i don't use that word i don't use that word about players Because a lot of the times, you know, when you watch San Francisco game, they were just better. You know, it's just it's, they had better players on the field and you guys were down in certain spots that it was just going to be hard and it was a tough matchup. But you don't have, I saw you had, you have my guy Rasul on who's one of my favorite people of all time. Soil and I used to play pool after practice in, in gray's until probably 8 p.m. It's like shower pills.

Let's just get right in there, run a game. So Rasul is my guy. you had Rasul on. I said you had Devante on. Do you want to have guests on? Do you like having guests on? And if you do, do you have a, like a, you know, when they ask you if you could have dinner with like five people and you always got to say Jesus and like four other people,

who's your, if you had five guests or three guests, like on the top of your list, you could just wave a wand and have that person. Who is it? It doesn't have to be a football player. Oh, man. One of them is, for sure, as Paul George. Really? Yeah, so I'm a big Paul.

George fan. That's my, that's my second favorite player of, like, basketball, because I'm like a big Paul George fan. So it's Kobe number one. His podcast is great. His podcast is amazing. I need to hop on that mail, and he need to hop on mine. Hell yeah, dude. But Paul George is one of my favorite players, so I love to watch,

chop up with him. Steph Curry, another dude I want to talk to. And, uh, who else I like to talk to? What about a musician? I'm going to Wayne. That's often to go. Dude, that's crazy. I just, last night, We were driving down the road.

I said, we need to, like, we need to get Wayne on one day. He's on my bucket list. And then my brother works for the Raiders now. He sells sweets. He just texts me and say, he's going to meet Wayne tomorrow. Wayne's going to, like, some soccer game. And I guess he's got to escort Wayne into the building. I was like, please be cool, bro.

Just fucking play it cool, dude. Play it cool, please. Yeah. Yeah. And I was, and I was telling him, throw my podcast. Yeah, yeah. That's what I was going to say, but I was afraid that he'd be, like, a little too He might never want to come on.

But I met Wayne in 09 at the Super Bowl my second year and he was interviewing people. And I told him after the interview, I go, bro, the suffix is like my favorite mixtape. And he couldn't even remember what the suffix was. He's got so many, remember back in the day now, he had so many things. He got too many classes, man, all the droughts, the drought three. Man, come, man, it's, come on, man. You're older. So when people, the music now in the locker room, I don't like the,

music. I like the shit. Bro, I'm with you. I hate it. It's bad. It's bad. It's bad. It's bad. I put my own headphones in. Hell yeah. And it looks like I'm just trying to be a distance from the team. It's not. Who controls the music in you're in the locker room now? Well, the weight room, you know, BG and myself are a Hertz or a or A.J. somebody. Would if anybody is a cat that I do the weight room, but in the main locker room, man, Juggles be just plugging up. Everybody be plugging up. You got five different songs on at once. It's like fucking. crazy. Be kids I didn't

never even heard of. I'm like, man, who is this? Speaking of BG, speaking of BG, does he still put his pants on at like 9 a.m. for a 2 p.m.

practice? Every day. I asked him when I first guy I said, B.G., what you doing? Like, we don't have to have a price

for two hours. He's like, I just already had to get ready. Because he wants more time to eat. And he full patty now, not like, just the pads in there, knee pads and everything.

Like, I'm like. That's what scares me about that guy. anybody who gets dressed for practice at 10 a.m. I'm like, there's something off about you, man. All right. So the last thing I want to talk you about, man, was I saw you talking about

Champ Bailey, like how important his game is to you. And my producer here, Cowboy Reed's big Broncos fan, so go Broncos. But what is it about Champ's game that you gravitate to? Everything, man. So Champ is from my area from where I'm at. He's really like, when I'm born and raised that, he really like probably 45 minutes from my hometown. Yeah.

So everybody was, he was like the standard. Yeah. If you wouldn't like champ, you weren't like nothing. So I was the next one chasing after champ. So I'm like, I always wanted to be like champ when I was growing up as a kid because that's what everybody talked about, all the Bailey brothers. That's what they call the Bailey brothers. Because all three of them was amazing at what they did. Yeah.

So we, that's who, you know, at Southeast Georgia, that's all we just looked up to a champ. if you played a skilled position. So I watched them all the way to go through Georgia. I wanted to be to go to Georgia. Yeah, what the hell happened there? Mississippi. Mississippi State's awesome. Mississippi State's great.

They got so many good pros. Yeah. They wanted me to play a little bit of running back a little bit. And then I'm like, nah, man, my body ain't built for running back because I was played running back in high school. Yeah. But they said they wanted to bolt me up a little bit. I said, nah, I ain't doing that.

Yeah. And then, so I want to kind of be a receiver or a DB. and I knew DB I wanted to be in heart, but who wanted me the best? So I was like, I'm Mississippi State kind of wanted me because I was getting recruited to a little bit in Florida a little bit. Yeah. And Dan Mullen became the head coach at Mississippi State my freshman year. So that would kind of like connect me with Mississippi State a little bit. Yeah, you being a receiver probably help you with the ball skills.

I can tell watching that at some point you played the other side of the ball. Easily, yeah. That's why. Yeah. All right. Go, man. So give me last thing. Give me a, give me a, you got Champ on there, but I'll call it Mount, not Mount Rushmore,

Mount Covermore. Who's on Mount Covermore? Give me the best four of all time in your opinion. You're a favorite four because you know somebody's going to criticize this list. Yeah, so it's my favorite fault that I feel is like, like that. And if we do a social, I will post the context. Podcast or podcaster. Dion, Champ.

Revis and Charles Wilson. There's nothing wrong with that list. All right, let me ask you this. Who's the most underrated receiver in the league right now? Most underrated one? Yeah, he doesn't get enough credit. Ooh, underrated. Who really be doing that thing out there?

He kind of not underrated in the moment because he just stopped popping up. But a guy that's kind of like been a consistent thousand yard receiver and been doing his thing. and people still don't give him credit, it's really a Mari Cooper. Oh, Mari Cooper. Mari Cooper, you know what it is about a Mari Cooper? He doesn't say a fucking word. That's it.

He really the one that's really be slept on. He's been a consistent receiver for, since he's been in the league and been dominating around folks. He really the only receiver that really, I truly think, that has a true route tree, as in case, run all the routes. You know what I'm saying? A lot of guys got special ability to be running faster

or somebody got somebody that's sick. Six, six, six, five, I can just mosh you because he's bigger than you. But Amari Cooper off the line of scrimmage. He's amazing. After the catch, he's amazing. He's getting tacking the ball. So I'd really be thinking he's the most unappreciated receiving the league. That's a great answer.

And I don't know if you saw that game of catch him and Flacco had when they played the Texans. I think it was like. Yeah. Bro, they were just playing catch out there. Oh, I'm talking about and getting groovy. It was amazing. I mean, anybody that doubts what he just said, go watch Amari Cooper and watch how Amari Cooper makes every quarterback better. He's played with a bunch of different guys.

And he does. And people out, and I'll see him right now. They have Cleveland that I want to pay him. They need to pay that man that man. Pay that man. Slay's looking out. Big play Slay podcast is the podcast. And, you know, I see the socials all the time.

I'm always in awe that this guy is doing it while he's playing. So Eagles fans, if you haven't, which I'm sure you have, check this damn podcast out. Slay, I'm excited to see you guys this year. New look, new team. You might be back again, man. So I'm looking forward to it. Hey, that's the goal, man. I need one before I go get out this game.

I need me a bowl. Hell yeah, dude. It's worth it. Enjoy. Oh, sir.