Green Light with Chris Long - Dawson Knox! Jalen Hurts Injury, SF Rookie Dinner, Gio Bernard & Holiday Code Breaks.

Episode Date: December 20, 2022

(2:21) - NFL Storylines: Jalen Hurts Injury & Impact on Eagles & Gardner Minshew, Nick Foles in Indy, Gio Bernard's Postgame in Tampa & San Fran Rookie Dinner. (42:46) - Dawson Knox on Bills Mafia, Playing with Josh Allen, Football in the Snow & Favorite Tight Ends to Watch. (1:05:56) - Holiday & Christmas Code Breaks, When You Found Out The Truth of Christmas & Casting NFL Players as Favorite Holiday Characters. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long:   Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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And in Michigan, 1-800-2707-1-17. Tennessee, y'all 2. 1-8009-9-9. The Greenlight Podcast welcomes you. If you saw the title, you see that we have Buffalo Bills, tight-end Dawson Knox, during the show. He's going to pop on with Chris and Bo. Talk about the snow game against the dolphins.

Some big plays he's had the last couple weeks playing with Josh Allen. And an anonymous teammate who had to wear some revealing clothing because Josh Allen did indeed slide during a game. Before Dawson, we hit Jane Litt Hertz, the injury, how it impacts the Eagles, which they do the last three weeks of the football season, which they do the last three weeks of the NFL season. Does Gardner get a shot?

Also, is Nick Foles in India rumor or is it truth? What to think of the G.O. Bernard video in Tampa Bay. And then we end with a little bit of Christmas fun. Y'all enjoy. Good afternoon, everybody. I'm joined by Bo Allen, and we're going to have Dawson Knox on the pod in a little bit. Star tight end for the Buffalo Bills. Fresh off, well, it's been a couple days now.

They're big, big win over the dolphins where he played big. and before that we're going to talk about a couple football topics and finish the show after Dawson with some Christmas talk because you know it's even though it doesn't really feel like it hasn't been cold enough man I'm up here in Minnesota I'm not down in Tampa anymore I got some Christmas vibe beginning to feel a lot like Christmas Chris I love it well good for you Beau also it's great to see it man I feel like I haven't seen you in a while how you doing I'm good. I haven't seen you since the city of Philadelphia just wrecked my body and gave me the flu and a respiratory infection. I love that. I might quit drinking, honestly.

Yeah, well, you say that a lot. You know, I'm just happy you're pinning that on the city of Philadelphia and not on, you know, yours truly, Beau Allen. But, you know, it's a delight to see you today, Chris. You seem especially chipper. I truly love that. Oh, thanks, man. Thanks. Feeling's always mutual usually sometimes. Uh, Beau. Always mutual sometimes. Nice. I love that. Well, I thought maybe we'd get right into it and talk about that thrilling Monday night

football game. Maybe about like 40 to 50 minutes really breaking it down, analyzing it. Because that was just a great fucking game. And we've had the pleasure of really talking about the real great Monday night football games on this podcast, haven't we, Chris? Can I admit something? Talk, man. So last night, I kind of like had the game on and I was like,

oh, keep an eye on this thing. And then like at some point during the third. quarter sitting there with my wife and i just turned the tv off and said fuck this game and uh i don't know really a lot about what happened and you know i work for you know i work for myself basically but you know i work in the nfl media kind of sector and people are like yeah it's your responsibility to watch all the games fuck that shit man i i've watched a lot of games this weekend and that that one was just not i knew what was going to happen we gave out actually on our on the wind bet the thing now win so you know so you listen to the pod the win you know like part of it is i'm going to

give out a little parlay for these primetime games i don't necessarily bet these big so you want to take them to the bank take them to the bank but i gave out a parlay last night it was uh it was uh packers minus six and a half it was the under hit hit it was aaron jones over 40-something yards rushing hit and then it was christian watson touchdown so uh you know the the guy that evidently got thrown under the bus a little bit after the game was the one who didn't catch a touchdown. It was because of that very, very instance that Aaron Rogers was talking about. That's all I know.

That's all I know about the game other than it was cold. And our boy Scotty trailed, message me and said he was up there. He said parking people in Green Bay make $2,000 a night parking, allowing parking at their residences. Am I saying that correctly? Residencies. Residences. You just say, I would try to sound British or something.

Residency is in Green Bay. Yeah, $2,000 in Green Bay is like 50 grand somewhere else. What is a residency? That's a house. It's like a medical residence. A doctor. A doctor at a hospital. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Residency. Well, you summed up that game pretty well, Chris. I watched the whole thing. I think the highlight for the Los Angeles Rams was a gay 55-yard field goal. Nice. Yeah. So Matt Gaye hit a 55-yard field goal, which was only the third 50-plus field goal hit in 25, you know, degree temperatures or lower. You know.

Yep. I would be afraid to kick a ball in weather like that, man. That would hurt the fuck out of your foot. And those little soccer cleats. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, it was pretty thrilling game. Also, I do you ever think Matt Gay is sitting there watching the World Cup like, fuck?

what am I doing? All the things I could do with my foot. I could be a foot model on only fans just make probably more money. I could be I could play I could have played soccer and been like one of these superstars. But instead actually Chris kicking a fucking ball in 10 degree weather and everybody hates me. If I miss it, nobody cares if I make it. Well, I cared. Evidently.

But actually Chris, just so you're aware in the future, most feet models, don't go on OnlyFins or go on Feetfinder.com. So write that down for the future. Bo, do you have a thing? That's what people are telling me. Do you have a thing? No, but if it comes up in conversation with Rex Ryan, you know. Oh, yeah, yeah, okay.

That's pretty good. That's pretty good. Another fun thing I saw from the Monday Night Football game, I noticed that there was a big cash app ad spot with Josh Allen and George Kittle. Kind of wondering what we need to do here at the Greenlight Pod now that we're sponsored by Cash App, what do we got to do to get a fucking, sick little ad spot, Crystal, sir.

Oh, I was thinking just what do we got to do to book Josh Allen on the show. Oh, yeah. So that's what we'll ask Dawson Knox. Yeah, we'll go through Dawson and we'll also talk to our boys over at Cash App and see if we can get Josh Allen on the show. No question, no question. Okay, so we got some football to talk about. Which topic you want to start with, Cowboy Reed? Well, I think Jalen Hertz is the biggest one, right?

That is a big topic. shoulder injury and he might miss the Dallas game this weekend. Is it smart for the Eagles just to send him the rest of the way? They don't have the East wrapped up. This game Saturday is kind of the decision, you know, the one that can turn the tide a good bit. But would it be worth it just to keep him healthy through the rest of the regular season

and just see where the chips fall for the last three games? So I want to avoid rust. You know, right, right, Bo? That's part of it because they probably have the buy. I mean, especially if they get a win. If they win one game, they get the buy, right? And there's no guarantee they win one game, especially if he's not playing.

So I think probably the best case scenario, and I wonder what the Giants are going to be playing for, week 18, would be to rest in the next two weeks. Only they know where his shoulder really is. But then week 18, you could like ruin some shit for the Giants. Or maybe not ruin some shit for the Giants because quite honestly, like maybe you want them in over somebody else.

like it's the giants or who? Commanders probably. Oh, fuck. They can both come. You don't want the lions. Yeah, you don't want the lions. The lions are, nobody wants the lions. They're kind of spooky right now.

They're really spooky. They're like the ghost in the darkness. You ever seen that movie? Hell yeah. A bunch of fucking people just getting lunched by lions. Dan Campbell's out there somewhere. I love that. It's fun of cheer for the lions.

But going back to your earlier point, Chris, like, Eagles are playing so hot right now They have such good energy and momentum. You kind of want to, yeah, they're so hot right now. Eagles, you kind of want to ride that wave, you know. So if you sit, Jalen Hertz, get him healthy, does that mess up the mojo? Here's a thing, though. You know who's got a lot of mojo, who's got a lot of momentum, who's got a lot of swag?

Gardner Minshu. He does. I kind of want to see some Minshu mania here. And I think he's, you know, pretty athletic quarterback. And he really doesn't, you know, for as, you know, bold as some of his plays are. and his playmaking ability, he doesn't really turn the ball over too much. So I think if, you know, the Eagles decided to go the route and kind of make sure Jayland is healthy and squared away for postseason, you know, the offense is in pretty capable

hands with Gardner Minshue. So I think that's close. How can anybody root against the guy who hugs his dad by assaulting him in an aviator jacket? I mean, like, that hug was one of the greatest hugs of all the time. And, you know, it just made me love him even more. He's, as you mentioned, 41 and 12 touchdown interception ratio, his entire career, I believe. So this cat is going to take care of the football. And, you know, going to Dallas, I kind of wonder if there's a couple guys that aren't healthy,

if a couple guys need a rest. Maybe it's the weekend to just do it, you know? Dallas is not going to catch you by winning this game. You have an opportunity to maybe, I don't know, if you played them a second time and Jalen Hertz is playing, you might throw the kitchen sink at them. You're going to, you might see him a third time. Do you want to give them everything?

Do you want to save something for the third matchup? I think Sireani's got some interesting decisions to make over the next two, three weeks. I think he's the coach of the year. He can go make that money and solidify that title by just being not only a great coach in calling the right plays and putting his team in the right position to win, but also being a strategic coach here at the end of this season because there's different ways you can do this. Now one thing people are going to parse is like Jalen carried the ball a lot on Sunday against the Bears who were not a great defense. He carried the ball seven. He carried the ball 17 times including scrambles now 11 of them were designed runs the second most of the

season for him uh and after the injury he went six and nine for 102 in the fourth so maybe the injury is not terrible um but it's something they got to be careful with and you know like when it comes to running jalen hurts it's a huge part of who he is so i personally am not going to go down this road of like uh you know we shouldn't run jelan hurts i just think it's picking your spots um in the playoffs you burn the ships. Your shoulder could fall off. You're trying to win a Super Bowl. But yeah, I think that's the one thing he might want to have back

is just a little less design runs against the Chicago Bears. But they've got an opportunity to make this whole thing right. As long as Jalen, his shoulder's in a place that when he comes back, he's not rusty and he's not rushing back. You know, and I think the best way to do that might be to get him action before the buy. You don't want to, if he's, if he can play before the buy, you should play him before the buy because the first playoff game for the Eagles

would be what date right now as it stands if they played in the second round. When's the second round of the playoffs? 17th, I think? 17th of January. That's a month away. So that's a long time, dude. I don't like a guy sitting around

and the first snap you take. Now they would, I don't know who they'd play, but it's a playoff game. And last year in the playoffs, you know they got boat race by the bucks it's a totally different team but it's the playoffs and so get this guy some reps get him get him healthy first and foremost but if you have an opportunity you got to get him some reps for the playoffs Dallas Goddard is is off iR so he could face the that's a that's a boost for um gardener minchew that's big yeah i think i mean that begs the question

is like you want to try to get jalen and dallas kind of connected up to before the playoffs the postseason run and things like that. So I mean, I think if I'm Nick Seriani, like everything's kind of going right. I think you kind of just stick to your guns a little bit. You don't mix anything up too much. I mean, Chris, you mentioned earlier, like you kind of not bust out all your bag of tricks. And I think there's something to be sad for that, but it's such a fine line to walk. You don't want to go out and drop one to the Cowboys. You never want to lose the Cowboys if you're regardless of the situation. But you can, I think you can be very smart here with the way you approach it if you're, you know, the Eagles and Seriani and everything like that.

But I kind of envision them just going out and doing what they do and not doing what they've been doing, not necessarily needing to do anything super fancy, hopefully just riding the defense. You know, Gardner Minshu comes out, protect the football. Do what Dallas did. Dallas came to town and scared the shit out of you with Cooper Rush. You don't think you're a better team.

You don't think you can scare the shit out of Dallas and maybe beat them with Gardner Minshue. You don't got to do anything super fancy. All the pressures on Dallas. and that's just the way you want it. I mean, and a lot of that is because Dallas had a chance to make this a lot more of a big deal by taking care of business last week,

and they didn't. Yeah. Interesting. Speaking of, you know, backup quarterbacks and backup quarterbacks here in Philadelphia, Chris, I came across an interesting little tidbit when I was browsing the R NFL subreddit last night. After you got done looking at feet picks?

after I got done looking at feet, anyway, from poster Duck Freak 10, I caught this early, and the post has since been edited, which I was kind of happy to scoop that up, but the title is Nick Foles will be the starting quarterback for the Colts for the remainder of the season, which I was pumped to hear,

and then there was this in the body, which has since been deleted, but I caught it early because, you know, I'm hearing the inside scoop. The poster said, I know somebody who was, an assistant quarterback's coach for the Eagles during their Super Bowl run. I would love to figure out who that is, Chris.

Who? We can find out here in a sec. He told me that Indianapolis is hiring him for the remainder of the season because they're switching to starting foals and he asked him to join the staff. And then the poster edited it. I edited the details of who I know to make it a little more vague on who it is just in case it could end up hurting him or me in the long run. And then I went back and visited it this morning.

And the post was like basically completely edited. but it was highly upvoted and I thought that'd be a fun little thing to talk about because we all love Nick Foles and we all love Nick Foles this time of the year, you know, so. We absolutely love Nick Foles, but what's the point? I mean, the point is not hurting Matt Ryan and knowing a bunch of money because you're out of it, right? The Colts are eliminated.

We blew the can. They're done. Yeah, we believe. Technically have one scenario, but it's like so ridiculous that it's not going to happen. They need the Texas. No, Nick Foles is back. Yeah. Come on.

I'm just, I'm wondering. what's going on there. And I, yeah, I'd love to watch, uh, Nick Foles go out there and do some heroic shit, but for what, you know, for what? Now, the one good thing is like, if Nick Folles goes out there and plays lights out, he can extend his career. You know, I'd hate to see his career finish, uh, this way. I mean, they, he's seen some crazy shit this year. I mean, can you, everything that happened to Nick since, since that run is just, it's wild. It's wild. It's wild you know the going down to jacksville sign in a big deal i can remember the first game he throws like a bomb and you're like wow they're going to be good look at that 50 yard touchdown and then he

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There was a video from the Tampa Bay Buck's locker room. Gio Bernard had his backpack on. He was ready to leave after the game on Sunday. and he was kind of being hounded by the media. Who was in the wrong? He was asked a couple. It almost seemed like you took offense to one of the questions.

What was the issue from both sides there? Let me hit this. This one is a frustrating one to watch for me, man. It's such an uncomfortable video. And I think we all understand what it's like when you're, you know, in the locker room after game, especially in upsetting loss. Things aren't really going your way. I just want to say this.

Joe Bernard is like one of the best guys ever. a complete pro. He does everything the right way. He's been a little bit hurt. He was on IR for the box earlier this year. But you can see he was kind of uncomfortable like he wanted to go talk to his family, you know, after the game. And it seemed like he was trying to leave the locker room. And it's just frustrating because it's like, you know, there's cameras in his face. It feels like kind of a gotcha journalism type moment where they're almost looking for a reaction out of him more than anything. And he knows that. And I think one of the comments made about one of the media people down in Tampa was really frustrating. Like, you haven't done anything all year.

or something along those lines. And there's just no need for any of that. It just, I think it's a lose-lose situation. I thought Gio handed it pretty professionally. You know, he just basically said like, hey, that one's on me. That one's on number 25. Didn't really feel like he wanted to elaborate on that. But it's just so frustrating sometimes when, you know,

Gio, there's a fake punt that he, you know, there's a big miscommunication on. He knew he was wrong. It's like such a nightmare scenario for a player. And then I have to go talk about it. Like it sucks. everyone's got to do it but it's like god damn like just let him you know give him some time to just breathe and compose himself instead of you know instantly hitting him hitting him with like you know

you've been on i r like what have you done for us all year like we haven't interviewed you because you haven't done anything you've been out i r and now it's just that was one of those things that really just rubbed me the wrong way i don't know chris i i didn't like i just didn't like the tone of the video and i also didn't like i was wondering what the point of jennel lane sharing it was And I, you know, like, I don't know if she thought she was like that fucking war reporter from CNN. Exactly. Like, I wanted to be like, are you okay? Yeah.

You know, like after that, I'm sorry, you had to go through that exchange. Yeah. Clarissa Ward. You know, but they just, here's how this stuff goes in NFL locker. So give people the background. I think there were a couple things at play here. Giovanni Bernard has been on Iowa. all year. So he has not been available to the media, which is normal. But that does not mean

he's not in the locker room. So the question I'm wondering is like what happened before the video. The video, I mean, the reporters are in the wrong. And coming out of the video, all this makes Giovanni Bernard look like is a great dude, an accountable dude. And that's all he owed them was a comment. And his comment was, it was on me. And, you know, unfortunately for the reporters, that's not a new revelation. I think anybody watching the game, knew the Giovanni Bernard fucked that up. So it's not like you found anything new out. It's not like, you know, you did some heroic thing.

And, you know, locker room opens up 15 minutes after the game or whatever it is, 20 minutes after the game. I don't know what it is, but like guys kind of get changed as they're getting changed. They still bother you anyways in your towel and as you get your clothes on. But Giovanni Bernard looked fully clothed. It looked like he was ready to go. I don't know how quickly you got ready to go. I don't know if he was like kind of hiding from him,

but the point is he, there was plenty of time to ask him that question. It looked like it was time for him, him to get going and see his family because we have people oftentimes like 20 deep waiting for us outside, the people that we paid for to come to the game and they're waiting and you know, like, I feel like there might have been a situation

where they waited too long to ask him the question, you know, and now he's trying to leave. I think also like, yeah, he's been on, I are but that doesn't mean you ignore him like he's the invisible man. I also get the sense that they probably nobody really established a relationship with Giovanni Bernard in that locker room. I don't know what happened. I'm speculating. The only reason I'm speculating, and I'm sure if Jenna Lane and some of those people in that video that seemed really agitated and mad at Giambani Bernard, which is the kind of piling on. It's the weirdest. They were just following him and like,

hey, wait, hey, hey, hey, hey, you owe us this. He's walking away. And you saw his face, but like, I'm sure if they were sitting here right now, they'd all say, oh, well, you're speculating. Oh, that's our job interview players after the game. Well, no, but this is what we're. I think they would be sitting here and they'd say, oh, you're speculating. You don't know what happened before the video in this and third. Will you open the door to that speculation by posting a video of y'all looking like assholes and not the entire thing?

So, like, I'm kind of wondering before, if you were even bigger assholes to him at his locker, or if you waited a damn near hour, if he, if it's the big, biggest story in the game, as Jenna Lane or whoever it was said, then you would have had him at the podium or you would have interviewed him right away. So like obviously the guy's dressed. He's got his trucker hat on. He's got his outfit on. He's ready to go see his family. And that's a hard thing. I think a little empathy and a little emotional intelligence would go a long way. You're complaining about how fucking hard your job is sometimes. Well, you know, and I love the media. I had a really good relationship with the media.

I know the media has a job to do, especially beat writers and people have to get a deadline in and the whole thing. But here's a hot tip for you. If you have emotional intelligence and you build relationships with players, you probably have the answer, you know, a lot easier and a lot earlier.

And guess what? You're not always going to get the player. Like there were guys that would hide in the bathroom when it was media time. Like when the media would come in, some dudes would go like to the other end of the building and just... Immediately.

lock room or you know if i didn't feel like to hear if i didn't feel like talking to the media i'd go in there and play pool so like you know here's the deal we might be we might be um kind of required to talk to the media but there's some days that you're not going to get everybody and maybe not everybody's willing to talk and sometimes it's okay to punt because now you've ruined the the relationship with giovanni bernard and i you know i and maybe some of the other players right that's a great point The thing that frustrated me the most is it just seemed like they were trying to make him uncomfortable, trying to get him to, when he was leaving, you know, trying to get those sound bites. And then they all swarmed him. But I thought it was interesting because you watch, you know, Jacoby Myers after truly just one of the, probably the worst play in his, I mean, definitely the worst play in his NFL career.

And he is, you know, in the Patriots, you know, in the locker room after the game where I guess it was in, you know, Las Vegas. but and he's calmly addressing the media and they're kind of not really being too pushy they're treating him with a lot of respect because they know that that's literally a nightmare scenario for any player to you know kind of have a horrible public such a public play like that and truly a nightmare for a player like i've you know i'm getting fucking cold sweats just thinking about it um and so to put a player in a position like that it's it's kind of just a lose woo the hero of the video is the guy who's obviously the buck's PR person who's just like that um and so to put a player in a position like that it's it's kind of just a lose woo the hero of the video is the guy who's obviously the buck's just like like just ask the question. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, I'm like that you want to know how I feel about this? Just ask your fucking question, okay? You guys have no idea what it's like to be in the arena. Okay, I know the media has a hard job and the whole thing.

And there's some people that are to listen to the show and it might be peers of mine. And the whole thing, I'm not talking about you. But what I am talking about is there's a, there's a distinct difference than your biggest mistake at work in ours. Okay? You have no idea how it feels to make that mistake. No earthly. idea and so the fact that he would stand up there with a smile on his face and and answer calmly especially after you treat him like a fucking child and run him and walk him down in the locker

room you're lucky he even talked to you and don't stop taking yourself so seriously i mean you report for the but you're reporting on a football game like it's it's this isn't you're not the white house press briefing so just fucking relax um and and anyways they might to ruin that relationship i always tell a story about when i was in philly i don't tell the story a lot actually but me and derrick gunner really cool but like after a game i had gotten dressed and the whole thing and you know like i had gotten my treatment got an iv i was really beat up i had i had uh i forget what it was 2018 bow it was after you were gone and i was going through a stretch the season where i was very frustrated by just like the whole situation my individual situation

the team the way they were playing it was after one of those tough losses maybe it was like tennis or something like that and I didn't play well and I walked out a locker room and this has been for a long ass time and I guess earlier in the day I had promised Derek Gunn like you know to pop by but he didn't ask until like 90 minutes after the game when I'm like late already to go see these people including people that I had set up for my charity to come see me you know a lot of these players have like charities they they funnel through the post game so you get to go meet the player and Derek kind of gave me, in my opinion, a look when I was like, I can't do it. And I snapped at Derek in the hallway. And I think if not for the fact that me and Derek had built this relationship

day to day, you know, BSing with each other, him asking me how my life is, you know, like, how's your family, the whole thing? We wouldn't have got over that little hurdle. But I, you know, I came back, talked to Derek, we squashed it. It was easy. I was on Dgun's podcast recently. That's guy dude this stuff happens disagreements happen but you don't you don't then go put it out there like some tabloid bullshit self-aggrandizing look at me damn i i'm clarissa ward this is a really difficult job and look at what an asshole this player's being you guys work it out in private and then you might get this guy again in the future um but you have to actually have built a relationship on the front end to have any chance to overcome little things like this

Agreed. So we saw another kind of tweet viral sensation, but this one in Kansas City, because there was a, the wolf fan for the Chiefs, guy who dresses up in a wolf mask and goes every game at Chiefsaholic on Twitter. It was posted that he had robbed banks in that mask, in that get up. and then it was like how many banks are we sir you unsure so it was verified that he's got one bank robbery at least and it was on the way to the Texans game um he drove to the Texans game on the way yep robbed a bank on the way and so because everyone was like where's he out in the game no one like is everything okay is it cool because he always posted from the game like a picture of him at that chief's game that weekend and no one had seen him for a couple hours for a day and a half or so and then it was announced that he would he had been arrested for robbery So are we is that the best Kind of mascot to to rob a bank? That's like that's like Chris Long going and robbing a bank and a dog mask, you know? So here's the deal.

Anybody think about you're famous for this if you're going to You're famous for wearing a wolf mask and you're robbing banks. I love that. Robbing a bank is not hard. No. That's what you told me the last couple times, you know, you came back from doing it. I'm just telling you think about it. It's not hard.

When it gets hard is you don't rob. two banks. You rob one bank. You rob two banks. You rob no banks. You rob one bank. You do it right. Dr. Seuss. You short. We were talking about, I don't know what stocks. You, you, you rob the bank, and then you invest in something smart. And then you lay low, right? And you definitely don't go to fucking Chiefs games in the mass that you robbed the bank in. I know it's like kind of the perfect crime you blend right in. But like, you have an online persona, man. It's his calling card, though, you know, he's really leaning into the whole Who else has that

get up? I would go Jackson DeVille if I could rob a bank and I had because he repels and stuff like that, like, you know, the whole thing, maybe I... Like, just get in and out like the pink panther. Yeah, pretty much. The mascot costume comes with all the

hooks in the repelling equipment, so you're already set. Real quick, though, it's not hard to rob a bank. I mean, think about it. Think about what it really takes to rob bank. You find one that's got cash, right? I mean, I know you saw a lot of movies recently, so that might be hinging your, you know, I don't know if you saw a bank's, a bank heist movie, but it's right there on Google. Hey, what time is this business busy? It's got the little bar graph. You find the one with the low bar. Then you get yourself a piece. You walk in there in a mask.

And then you got to get you got to get a getaway driver, right? And the getaway driver can't be waiting outside. I'd walk from down the street. You're just robbing the bank. It's a And then you just hop in the Cushman, you know, that they drive around the facility. Yeah, the Cushman, the little easy go. No, it might not be hard to rob a bank, but I feel like it's the hardest part is getting like getting away. Yeah, yeah, continued evasion of the. Oh, I guess.

I'm robbing a bank. How do I'm robbing my money? I bury it. Cash out, baby. No, you're, you're, you're, you're going to put all the money for a little bit. I'm, I bury the money. You're going to put all the money on the game, you know? It's like your little fun money.

You're playing with house money. gambling with house money at that point if i'm robbing a bank i'm gonna rob one in in new england dress as patriot pat because i already got the musket you know yeah uh but ready to go yeah yeah but you just got your big little elephant shooter you're right yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah uh well we'll get back to his laundering the money thing matt well like a lot of the bills that are in banks are tracked so you have to get different bills like even if you spend it or let's say use it like 10 years later they'll be able to find you and know that it was you so you have to figure out a way to get it from like so obviously i just call you and i'm like let's launder this money how are we doing it

you stake me in the biggest poker game in Vegas yeah yeah we go play pretty much yeah that's what we do but they're aren't they going to see that no i in your favorite movie come hell or high water the bank robbers in texas remember they go to the casino to like launder their money essentially they say a bunch of cute shit along the way a bunch of pithy dialogue over plot sharing. Actually, he does say something, QDy says, no, it makes me an Apache.

Yeah, that's a good point, Reid. God damn. I could rob bank easy, bro. Easy, easy. Easy. You just have to find one. You have to find a bank. It depends on how much money.

Like, are you robbing a bank? Yeah, cool. You could get out with like a hundred bucks or are you trying to like change, like, you know, get out with all that cash money, all the money. Or are you just trying to fund your next road trip

for the Kansas City. He's in here. Haven't you, haven't you seen point? break you can't go to the vault no if you go to the vault that's that's the end and you're you're calling Kingston on a on a on a phone i got you on a wiretap right there i'm not calling kingston on the phone me and kingston communicate like uh they got walkie talk we got what we got we got the gander mountain got walkie talk you know and then what you can do is you can set up a big

diversion while you're robbing the banks the cops have to go to the diversion like actually i've been thinking about this for a while so like if you're going to rob a bank you need to for the biggest snowstorm possible. Get a snowmobile. Have it all ready, have it all prepared, call the police with a couple of fake diversions to bring them way to the opposite side of the county and then get it done in the snow.

Yeah, yeah. Find a place that they're defunding the police. Huh? Funding my, fun in my drug habit. And do it like the place behind the pines, right? drive into the back of the pale truck. So you just get easier get away? Yeah.

I like the snowmobiles idea, dude. Well, we get some snowmobiles will be like the Italian job, you know? Italian job. Except the mini cooper. Except the mini coopers, you got rip around on snowmobiles during snowmobile. Bo and Charlie's Theron or, however you said. Yeah. Trilies Throne.

Yeah. Yeah. That's interesting. Two blondes on a snowmobile. That's interesting. Dressed up like Sir Per. you know other mascots swoops on a

matching one matching green snowmobile bank robin pot now see wolf's going to prison speaking of robbing the bank Chris did you see the 49ers rookie dinner with a $370,000 bar tab yeah my heart skipped the beat for a second and I was like god damn these guys are just like

some old NFL motherfuckers out here Seriously. I was analyzing that receipt like it was a fucking tax return looking at that like how the hell you spend that much money and then it came out. Eric Armstead tweeted out that the bill was like seven grand or something like that and they kind of split it amongst the vets and you know kind of got everybody with a little fake fake rookie meal hoax. But Eric Armstead kind of had me going. Eric Armstead's a good guy. He wouldn't let that D-line group hit that that dude for $300 plus thousand dollars. But the funniest thing is like, some of the comments you get underneath that are like, he makes, you know, he's making $4 million here. He can afford it. Yeah. Shut the fuck up.

Just shut the fuck up. Just because somebody has more money than you doesn't mean you can just tell them what to do with it or, or you know, like, or what's okay and what's not okay. That's $300,000, hypothetically. Also, you know, I had to do 20 on my rookie dinner and I was like, damn I got off easy for a second mine was seven grand an ocean prime in Philly

I've never been back to an ocean prime since That's how butt hurt You don't even eat seafood anymore do you Yeah I'm fucking every time I see a seafood tower At a restaurant I flashback You knock it over Vietnam yeah I walked by the ocean prime

In Philadelphia just had flashback of Fletcher That's how I feel about fucking king crab And Emmanuel Acho ordering three bottles of wine to go oh wait a second talk about a code break that's a wait a cho was in your oh my god yeah hey listen no listen that's all right i'm still not butt hurt about it fucking 10 years later i i i uh well look at us now what was he on tv making a bunch of money bow look what you're doing all right so like uh i'm doing the same thing yeah you are but uh but but but i i

cut that shit off. I remember dudes were trying to take bottles of Louis 13th and I walked over to this linebacker who was not as big as me and I was like that's not going to happen. I was like this isn't like a library. We're not checking. We're not checking Louis the 13th out

brother. You're going to go to your car now. The dinner's over. BG ordered two cheese two cheese cakes to go. They're good. And he was so apologetic. Yeah. And he was so apologetic

about it. I was like, oh, you're good, man. Yeah. Other people are corking up the wine. You know, other people are stealing stealing the like little like fucking glasses that the fancy shot glasses that the louis comes in and stuff I'm sitting over there just fuming. With any rookie hazing or rookie dinner

stuff, Beau, it's like if you're going to enforce it, you have to be willing to fight a grown man who's probably a lot hungry than you. You know, especially if you're like an older vet. So whether it was cutting people's hair or rookie dinners. Like, I just don't get my jollies that way, you know?

Me neither. And those events are, you know, one second away from getting real physical, real fast, you know, with a lot of dudes. Mm-hmm. You got to be ready. All right. Well, that's all the sports for today. Well, I lied.

Dawson Knox is on and we'll talk about the bills. and then we'll finish and talk about a little Christmas. Talk about some Christmas? I love talking about Christmas stuff here. I wish you could see my little view. I got the tree right here. I got a fire. I got some stocking.

You already showed us. Maybe you'll show us. Great, Bo. You want it again? Here, here. Check it out. Check it out. There's the tree.

White lights. You know, some presents. Yeah, wrapping paper. Yeah, a little snow globe. Hey, you just fucking say it shit to my face. We're fucking. Dawson Knox, everyone. If you're here in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Tennessee, or right here in Virginia, and you haven't tried the WinBet app yet, I have great news for you. Sign up today to receive this special offer. New users can take advantage of WinBet's bet $25, get $50 in free bets. WinBet is basically giving you free money. Don't turn that down. Don't pass that up. Download the WinBet app today.

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Yeah. We'll get, we'll get you after practice or what's going on? Yeah, he's working. Oh, yeah, we just finished up practice. Coach threw us a little bone today. We had a little kind of modified walkthrough type deal. Not now, no afternoon meetings. Everyone's pretty hyped up.

We're going to be home by 2 o'clock. That's not a, not if we have anything to say about it, man. That's not how wild I guess. Hey, listen, man, nothing like getting a bone. Nothing like getting a bone. I'd fucking walk through. Yeah. That's the best news in the world.

Nothing better to increase some team camaraderie than cutting down a Wednesday. Yeah, no question. No question. Let's start with Saturday, dude. Like, was it actually even cold for you? I mean, yeah, definitely cold. But last year, I think it was a New England game.

First round of the playoffs. It was like negative 15 or something crazy. that was a different type of cold where like you couldn't have your hands out of the warmer for like 10 seconds before they started going numb so after you experienced that anything that's you know in the 20s

is pretty solid yeah I know it's kind of it's hard to think about but yeah 20s and above that's beautiful for Buffalo how do you how did you make this how did you become like the I don't wear sleeves guy you're in are you a Nashville boy I'm a no sleeves guy

okay you know I'm a no Well, he's a Wisconsin guy. Yeah, Wisconsin guy. So, Minnesota. I just never, like, even in college, I mean, I played at Ole Miss, so I never really got cold down there. But I would always go sleeves. We had a couple cold games. We played in Nashville against Vanderbilt that was in the 20s.

And for some reason, I just decided out to wear sleeves. And now it's kind of like, it's kind of been given to me as, like, my thing. So now if I go out there with sleeves on, everyone's going to start freaking out and think something's wrong. So it's kind of something I can. Yeah. Something I guess I just have fallen into. I can't disappoint the people now. No, no, never put the sleeves on, Dosson. Leave them off, man. It makes your arms pop a lot and gives you a plus five on toughness. But I always, you also used to, uh, loop up the arms with the Vaseline. Yeah, yeah, I was wondering. Aquafour. Yeah. And it makes your arms kind of pop too, but I was wondering.

And how it gives a little glisten and the lights? Precisely. That's exactly right, man. But if you, I was wondering if you guys do that as skill play. because I mean, I assume you probably wouldn't want that shit to get on your hands trying to catch the ball, you know? Yeah, I haven't put a ton of that on. I'm sure Josh would not be a fan of the guys catching the ball to have Vaseline all over the place. So next time he takes a snap, it's... Exactly.

It wouldn't be ideal for him. But, yeah, I mean, I think as a ball carrier, you don't want to wear sleeves either. You get a little slick. Yeah, that's what I wondered. That's why I wondered, like, Tua's out there in sleeves. And, you know, Josh, I think Josh wears sleeves and, like, it scares the shit out of me. because I'm like, I just imagine trying to carry the football. And, you know, like, it's sketchy.

Yeah, I know. I don't know. I mean, I've seen Naheem Hines. He's got these sleeves that have like receiver glove material on the inside. So maybe that's like a new cutting edge technology thing. We got to go on. All right. So this is fucking weird.

But have you heard of people using Viagra to stay warm? Have you heard this rumor? What's up with? Did people do that? The first time I heard about it. Do people do that? Is that real? To be honest, I don't know of anyone on our team that does it.

I think if that might be like a personal decision that people kind of want to keep quiet, I mean, I'd be worried about other things. Yeah. Beyond just staying more. Yeah. I'm already boned up during a game anyway. Get the fuck out of here, Beau. Go get out of here, dude.

Whatever you got to do to increase performance. Yeah, yeah. Exactly. What about, what about the, what about, are you, so are you anti-dome stadium? Because I'm anti-dome stadiums. Do you like the cold? You see it as an advantage or just something you're just like, you know. Well, I'm big pro grass.

Me too. I know that's kind of been like a hot topic this year. Finally. So hopefully if it's going to be outside, they'll be putting a grass field in for us. And I know I think it's not going to be done until like 2026. But honestly don't mind playing outside. the thing that sucks is when the wind starts with it because our stadiums built to where like one of the end zones is kind of open and that wind comes in there it's like it can be like a tornado like there was a game last year I think there were gusts up to like 50 miles per hour I mean our new England game maybe yeah yeah the first New England game yeah our kicker was warming up we saw a couple videos he's on the 20 yard line the ball stops midair ends up in the end zone doesn't even go out and out so it's like that wind can be be a difference maker, but I don't mind playing outside. So hopefully whatever stadium they're

building this has a little. Yeah, that New England game, I bet you were like, okay, I'm not getting a lot of touches this game. We're just going to be running the ball today. I think Mac Jones went like two for three on the day that game. Yeah. That was wild. How about the Detroit trip that you guys had to make for Thanksgiving? Because that was a real big snowstorm. Eric Wood was telling me dudes were getting coming up in snowmobiles to pick up guys to get them out of their houses like Dion Dawkins had to get picked up or something like that like what were some of the adventures that guys had to take to get to the airport and how close was it you know as far as not getting there yeah so I've got a pretty long driveway and with six feet of snow like our plow like my plow service wouldn't even

touch it they're like it's too much snow for us we legally can't do it I don't know what the deal was but I look outside and I see like 10 of my neighbors just in an assembly line with snowblowers and shovels just going Bill's Mafia. Bill's Mafia showed up big time, big shout out. That's so cool. And they, I mean, it probably took an hour for them to get from their house to my house. Just dig it. So me and one of my buddies, they told us not to stay downtown because apparently downtown was supposed to get hit harder.

So one of my buddies that lives downtown stayed at my house and we're out there walking through the trenches of snow with our suitcases above our head. One of our teammates picked us up of the street. But I think there was a handful of guys that had to be picked up on snowmobiles. I honestly kind of wanted to get picked up on a snowmobile. I thought that was going to be a pretty good story. That would have been good. I didn't get picked as one of the snowmobile guys.

That would have been cool. What did you think? Here's what I thought Saturday when the snowballs started flying. And there were people, you know, the ref was the ref said, hey we're going to penalize y'all if i'm a miami fan i'm throwing as many snowballs as i can yeah that's what i said dude i was like no i was like oh this is going to be bad dude if i'm if i'm yeah yeah apparently they told i think they either told um coach mcdermott or someone they're like hey we can't actually enforce that we just have to say that for them to stop throwing snowballs

so i think it was just kind of like uh say it to get the fans to calm now at some point of the game Josh is looking in the stands, you know, trying to get them to stop. And the PA guy is like, Josh Allen wants you to stop going snowballs. We saw another snowball after that. That's so good. That man can make it all shut down. I was like, but these people are hammered. There's dudes with their shirts off.

You think they're scared of a penalty? They're not working. Actually, that could hurt the one thing they love, the Buffalo Bill. Right. So that was a good, like, psychology play by the refs. No question. I'm a Miami fan and that was real. I'm like,

and everybody I can with snowballs. I'd be worried about a snowball with like a dildo packed in that. That's what I was going to say. Have you seen a dildo yet this year? Because you've seen snowballs. We haven't seen a dildo in a couple years in Buffalo. People are starting to call them buildos.

I think that might be a Pat McAfee thing. Yeah, it might be. That might be. That's funny. I personally haven't seen one yet this year. We have a funny picture of one of our trainers having to pick one up. I think it was from last year.

Picking it up like. It's a bomb. Like, get the bombs. Yeah, and funny story. I think, I think her grandma, like, accidentally posted a picture of her granddaughter holding it because she was so proud to see her granddaughter on the screen. So I think that was actually posted either on Facebook or Instagram or something,

before it quickly got taken down. But I have not seen a buildo yet this year. So you never know. Snowballs have no give, you know, especially if they're not. they're like ice. The dildos at least, they kind of do this. I feel like the snowball might hurt more. Yeah, shock absorption.

All right. So, Dawson, what's, I don't know how to ask you about Josh, honestly. I mean, he's just an alien, man. And I, like, he's just probably the most fun player I've ever seen play football, at least since I've been a league, because of everything he adds to your offense. And my favorite part of the game Saturday, I don't know if this was an intentional conversation, but like the run game wasn't getting going.

And then there was a drive late where it almost felt like Josh was like, fuck it, I'll do it. And he just started tucking the ball. Like what's the conversation going before you go out for that drive? And is it like, hey, we're going to jam the ball down their throats and it's going to start with you 17. You know, there wasn't really anything specifically said like that. But Josh just has such a good feel during the game that, yeah. Like he knows if certain things aren't working, he can take the game over himself. I think Case Keenum had a pretty awesome, like, quote or something on the sideline to Josh.

He's like, man, this is your game. You can take over whatever the hell you want. Take the game into your hands. And I guess that kind of got some wheels turning in Josh's head. Like, maybe I can just do it all myself, which he can't. And we've seen that every single game this year. But we keep telling him to slide, but the dude won't do it. I mean, he's taking off running over linebackers and jumping over.

It's a big boy. Yeah. Yeah. So we try to, we give them little incentives here and there to slide during the week. Like, we had one of our teammates had to show up to a walkthrough and just a jock strap if Josh slid. And I think that was like the only week he actually slid on a play. Who was? Who was it?

Can we ask? They asked to remain or stay anonymous. It was you, wasn't it, Dawson? I would own up to it if it was me. Oh, that's so funny. That's so funny. I'll check with him and come back to you. That's so funny.

Yeah, well, that's a brilliant strategy to get Josh to slide. I mean, the guy is, he loves to run people over so much. The only way to get him to stop is that. That's incredible. How about when you, at what point did you start, like, I forget when people started doing this, pushing quarterbacks, but you're like the, you're his, like, push guy now. I'm the designated push guy. Yeah, I don't know how that started.

I feel like that's just this year that people would be out. Yeah. Yeah, we had our fullback do it one game, and it worked last game, so I'm probably now the designated pusher. So I just, what the unfortunate thing is we had a pusher for that. It was a Vikings game that we were back on our own, like one foot line. We had Gabe pushing, and the snap was fumbled. So Gabe's there pushing Josh, who's trying to recover the fun.

humble. That was like the only possible bad thing that could happen from having a pusher. But now it worked pretty well. We actually took our victory snap and shotgun this week. So we had a couple guys back there spotting the ball. But yeah, I guess I'm the designated pusher now for victory stuff. What about what about Scramble Drow for you guys? Because that's such a big part of what you guys do. The play breaks down. I know you're a big part of he's looking for you the whole thing like what's that kind of process is it you practice it during the week and then is it non it's nonverbal or are there are the cues you give each other yeah is that a big chemistry thing just working together so much or how much that's scripted yeah most of that would be a chemistry thing

um i think just fourth year being with him his fifth year in the system um obviously playing with a guy like him we know he can extend any play that he wants to um uh so i It's just one of those things that you can practice a lot just based on route concepts. Like if you're the deep guy, you're supposed to work back to the ball. If you're the shallow guy, there's no one behind you. You're supposed to work up the sideline and go deep for them. So there's a couple black and white rules that you follow. Like if you're coming from across the field, you're supposed to work downhill so the D.B.

Can't undercuts you. Just little things like that, but it's also kind of a feel thing too. Like in the red zone, we're essentially supposed to build a box in the back. So like back pylon, front pylon, and then, you know, front and back, about 10 yards apart. So it's just kind of a feel thing with Josh. What are you saying in your head the last play before the half? Because I was like, you know, because I was pulling for you all. And I was like, no, no, no, no.

Yes. Like there were what, three seconds, five seconds ago. And he's just like, fuck it. I'm going to do this myself. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm out there scrambling around in the end zone. I actually slipped on a snowball.

So I'm like. Like I'm trying to work back to the front pylon and just wipe out. Yeah. And I look up expecting him to have thrown in the way or to have stepped out, you know, to save time for a field role. But he's still gone. So, you know, in our head we're like, he's going to get cussed out when he gets back to the sideline. But then he makes that play. Everyone goes nuts to the rookie, James Cook, who made a huge play for us.

That was one of those where, you know, coach McDermott would have blown a gasket if we didn't convert it. But it's one of those. where it's like cheer yawn if you did it but you mess it up and you're yeah all's well that ends well yeah exactly that's a wheel i got one for you uh dallas i was talking my buddy cam brage who's a tight end for the bucks and talking about you before this and he mentioned that you're a really good hurdler and he wanted me to bring that up so i'm just kind of wondering you just waiting for one of those hurdles to just go horribly wrong you know i'm not trying to speak that into existence or anything like that but i'm a terrible hurdler um i don't know about that brother yeah i don't know about that brother

Yeah, I've seen you hurdle a couple people, man. Come on, huh? No, the Jets game, it was like 20 seconds left. We hadn't scored. I think it was like on the, you know, getting close to four or five yard line. I'm like, you know, I got to get in somehow. So just kind of like close my eyes and went for it. Thankfully, you got hit me just the right way to where I didn't land on my head.

But it works. Just taking a page out of Josh's playbook. But my rookie year, my rookie year, I think it was at the Titans. I, like, hesitated on a hurdle, which is, like, the last thing you want to do. I was about to go off one foot, and the DV kind of stopped. And so it was already too late. So I ended up kind of going off of two feet and just ended up getting racked about as hard as you could possibly get racked at a football game. So that was my first attempt to hurdle in the league.

Yeah, I don't know why I brought that one up. Well, the only way to learn how to hurdle is to, you know, is to get power bombs. Try an error. Yeah. Yeah. Try that air. You got to try. It's like people in the backyard on dirt bikes and shit.

You're like you're going to wreck jumping over the above ground pool once or twice, you know. Yeah. Do you have fun watching Brian Dable and what he's doing in New York? Do you guys kind of like, you know, pulling for him, you know, when he gets on TV? Yeah, absolutely. I think everybody in here has a lot of respect for him. He always brought the energy force in the locker room on the sideline. And even in practice, he would get everybody going.

He's always rapping biggie. You know, he's just doing something. Oh, yeah. You know, and he's always got a cigar in his mouth after the game and his truck. So he's definitely a player favorite. So anytime we see them win, it's pretty fun. And they had a big win against the commanders, right? Yeah.

Yeah, it was awesome. Yeah, it was a great win. Yeah, that was another crazy one. But everyone loves seeing him win. Yeah, no. He was in New England when I was up there, and I really thought, like, not there's anything wrong with New England coaches, but he was just different. You know, like, he just has a different kind of swagger to him. And he's a Buffalo guy, too.

He's from here. Yeah, so he loved being up there. I know. Yeah. Everybody loves him. He does have that, like, particular coach swagger that's hard to replicate. Who are your favorite tight ends to watch in the league that are kind of in your age range? it's always fun watching Travis

just because his routes are so like I've talked to them a decent amount of time just on what he thinks on certain concepts and stuff and he likes to call himself Picasso you know he's gonna do something that might not look exactly like a human but you know there might be one ear up here

but it's gonna it's gonna work so that's just a chemistry thing that he has with Patrick too that, you know, it might be a completely different route than they practice, but somehow they're on the same page and it works out. But love watching George Kittles film. You know, on my head, he's one of the most well-rounded tight ends of the league the way he blocks. Even in past protection, he's really solid.

And, I mean, watching freak athletes like Darren Waller and Kyle Pitts, too. So, I mean, there's guys around the league that can do it all. But I'd say Traps is probably my favorite to, you know, know, take a few notes from. What about, like, when you're a young player, you know, like, rookie year, things like that, is there a guy that you kind of honed in on and maybe like a vet who's retired now or anything like that that you really try to model your game after anyone come to mind there? You know, honestly, I've never really looked at one guy and tried to model myself after,

because, I mean, I looked at a lot of Gronk film, but I'm not, you know, six, seven, two 80. Right, exactly. You know, and I looked at, you know, a bunch of Travis film, but it wasn't my seventh or eighth year in the league, learning how to, you know, read coverages like him. So it was kind of like taking bits and pieces of different guys' games and not really taking one guy in particular and trying to model my game after. But I did watch a bunch of Grunk film, just because he's, in my head, he's the greatest titan of all time. Just what he was able to do. it was beyond impressive so it was always fun watching him all right before we let you go with

christmas coming up uh wanted to ask you a christmas question or two here uh first off how old were you when you realized um spoiler alert for any of the kids in the back seat listen to the show date santa's not real yeah big spoiler alert uh it's an adult podcast i don't remember i don't remember but i felt so betrayed i mean i don't know i was probably Probably 14. I was almost driving the drawer. Yeah. I don't know, probably like nine, 10.

That's still late, Austin. That's fucking late. I was the first, I was the, I was the first child in the family. Yeah, yeah. It might not have been that long. Yeah. But I just, I mean, we had like the little elf on the shelf thing.

Yep. So that was my biggest, like, that was my first question. I was like, all right, if Santa's not real, how are these elves moving? Of all the things, bro. Like, not just the... That was the first question I had, not how there's one guy

that delivers stuff down a chimney to everyone. It was... Why is my elf moving by himself? All right, and then next, white lights or multicolored lights? That's a tough question. I think you've got to go like just on your Christmas tree or like...

Yeah, I think, Bo, how did you frame this? You elite as fuck? Chris and I got into this a little bit because my family were very against multi-colored lights. My mom thinks they're trashy. And Chris is, uh, Chris is, you know, trailer trash. So he's a big multicolored lights guy. But I'm more of a white light purist, you know. I think that's been a big topic of a page.

I think white lights on the Christmas tree. But everything else like front yard, you got to go crazy with the colors. I think you got to mix up. But I like it. It's a very safe answer, Dawson. You know, I respect that. Now I think about it. I don't even remember what our family does, but I think we're all over the place.

I think it's probably what will be colored. Well, you're going to be working on Christmas for a long time, buddy. So I hope so. Yeah, I hope so. Well, keep up the great work, man. And until that studs 17, we said hello. And we love watching you two play and connect with each other on the field, man. So best of luck.

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Does it have to be a player? I was hoping it could be a coach too. It could be a personality, you know. Oh. Yeah, it could be an NFL personality. What about ex-N-FL players? Could be ex-N-FL players. I've always seen myself as a little bit of a future mall Santa, you know.

Would you be bad Santa? I could be, you know, catch me on a bad day. Yeah, no question. All right, so a couple of the ones I have here is, well, one I have for you, Bo. Because you have, you, I would imagine that when you were a kid, you had a really, well, you still have kind of like a childlike mind. When did you accept or learn that Santa wasn't real? And actually, I want to go around the room here. At what age?

Spoiler alert, Chris. What the fuck? First I'm hearing about this. Santa's not real? We're deep in the podcast. Listen, if kids are riding in the car and you get this show on, again, at your own risk. But also, kids, you in the back seat. Santa's real if you, Santa's real if you make it real.

You know, it's the idea of Santa. The magic of Santa is always real, Chris. Yeah, but like say Santa's not. not real. When did you find that out? I think I was in like second, probably third grade, which I feel like it was kind of late, you know? That's late. Is it late? Yeah, I feel like that's, I'm just a dumbass. Or maybe I wanted to believe, you know, but I remember, I just remember, there wasn't like any sort of epiphany, you know, I didn't see mom kissing, kiss and Santa under the Christmas tree or anything like that.

You know, that song goes. Um, but I think I just kind of realized one day like, yeah, there's way there's this mythical man that's flying around every, you know, to every single house, delivering presents, you know, over the course of one night. I kind of just woke up and was like, yeah, this shit's not real, you know? There wasn't really any sort of big epiphany. Yeah, I think once I saw like a map of the world and conceived, like, how long it takes to travel from one place to another in the world population and started doing a little calculations in my little bunk bed there, I decided it was impossible. And then also, like, not everybody. why he's got a chimney so what's up with that think about it do you guys have older siblings i know

chris doesn't but bo do you have any older siblings i have a brother that's you know a year older than me for me it got ruined by the older siblings they told you yeah they were like you yeah they were like you idiot you believe in that are you kidding me did anne do it yeah that's fucked up i agree it really is fucked up that's a code break that's a huge christmas code break that's like the biggest Christmas co-break there is. Yeah, well, for me it was, I took the calculations and I camped out at the top of the stairs and I watched and I saw the whole thing and I came down in the morning and the Christmas wrapping paper, you know, your parents try to have like, this is Santa wrapping paper and this

is it. But it was, I saw a guy with a flat top unless Santa used to be a big cop that looked like my dad. He was the one putting the wrapping paper on the Santa present. So did you tell Howie and Kyle? No, because I kept it G, bro. I got a responsibility as an older brother. I kept a G.

Reed, when did you find out? Sorry, sorry if you haven't yet. No, three minutes ago. I didn't know that he wasn't real and that ruins a lot of things for me. Now, probably in like first grade or something, but the NORAD Santa Tracker kept it alive for a while, like a fleeting thought. What is that?

It's a thing. So NORADs, I think it's like, forget what NORAD is, but it's, it's, they, they do this Santa tracker. Every year, it's like a government, government, um, is that like a flight tracker? Yeah, kind of, but NORAD's like a government arm thing, um, government business. Uh, but they do a flight tracker for Santa every year and they make it up and they're like, oh, Santa's over Canada right now he's coming and now he's over the northeast and now he's over here. He was just spotted in Georgia and now he's jumping over here.

Your account will be suspended. don't docks people. They're having the fuck he sounds. Yeah. Stupid fucking voice. They're gonna cancel his

Twitter account in Santa because they're tracking them. You can docks Santa. So right now if you go to Norad Santa.org on the 24th,

if you go on the 24th, the night of the 24th, you'll be able to track Santa's flight around the world. Oh, that's interesting, read. I might try that on my kids. What I'm realizing

that Wayland's six years old, he's probably going to figure it out pretty soon. Yeah. Damn, that was quick. And then he's going to realize that you've been lying to him. Yeah, you know what? It's a little white lie. It's a little white lie.

A little red and white lie. Yep. I, uh, what about Christmas lights, white or colored lights? That's a huge, huge point of contention of my family, Chris. And sorry to the listeners out there that have, you know, multi-colored lights, but the Allen family is, decided that multi-colored lights are trashy.

Fuck you guys. And white lights are classy. And we do classy Christmas. I'm sitting in my parents' house right now. It's really cozy. I took a little picture of my podcast and set up today. I'm really feeling the Christmas vibes. I got my camera set up on a little Christmas present right here.

To Bo, love mom and dad. Can't wait to see what's in that one. But we're a big white light family. Multicolor lights, boo. You know, not a fan. What are you talking about on the outside of the house? The outside of the house. But then also, like, on your Christmas tree.

here let me give you a little sneak peek in what we're working with here like i don't know if you can catch this but look at that you know i got a fire that's ugly yeah i got a snow globe i'm looking at it's kind of nice i got to the left we want to see the snow too yeah i don't know show us the tundra now that's christmas i um i'm a colored light guy man now my wife she's a white light person you know we we both grew up in the suburbs but she just she but she just i mean the house looks beautiful there's some white lights outside it's undeniable that it's visually pleasing but the the white trash in me uh that i just can't get away from uh definitely likes the colored lights and i don't think it's trashy i i if that's what you're inferring then maybe that's what it is

but i like the colored lights i thought you'd maybe be a green light guy chris no i didn't even know there were green light people um what is the biggest code break telling on santa gotta be I'm not getting a gift for somebody that got you on sometimes that's fucked up though what about Christmas cards like I got Christmas cards I start getting Christmas cards

and here's the biggest Christmas code break to me I don't want to know how successful your kids are not interested they're beautiful you have a beautiful family I'm sure they're great I don't care about the kids GPA he's in second grade

okay like yeah he's doing great at sports he's probably not going to the pros just just send us a picture and spare me the the details and also that's what you should put on every one of your cards X like a certain whatever the certain percentage of

NCAA athletes do not go pro and something other sports yeah and send that back to everybody else who sends you like Tommy's being really good he's playing travel baseball yeah well Christmas reality check courtesy of C Long hey just so you know your kid he's probably not even going to make varsity

You're on Davey. No. No. And you know what? You know what really smart kids do? They get their good grades and they just, they shut up about it. You know? I don't need to.

Yeah. Like, what if my kids doesn't have? What if my kid doesn't have good grades? Well, we're on the topic. You know, I just finished up my finals with my HR class. I got an A and one of them and an A.B. And the other one. So I'm going to put that on my Christmas card.

A little beau. He's growing up so fast. Yeah. Talk about a gift, Matt says. Here's a Christmas code break for you, one that I'm guilty of. My family is kind of like sneaking in the, you know, looking around trying to figure out your presents are before they've been wrapped. So like my parents really had to hide the presents growing up because like they always put

them in the back of their closet in this one little spot. We would sneak up there and look at them and figure out what they were. Yeah. So then they started doing decoy presents or, you know, I had one Christmas where my folks got me something small, but they put it in a huge box with like a big. bunch of weights and stuff like that so I was rattling it around trying to figure out what was in there yeah can't really get anything by waylon heard about the the coal thing the other day and meg was like yeah my dad he got coal one year he wasn't a good boy and well I was like oh really he was like

well coal's not too bad you can make energy with it wow yeah that's smart you just triggered a memory for me we were at my grandparents house and my brother was up early emptied my stocking out hit it and put coal in it that's really fucked up yeah i mean that's really fucked up you guys had some that's a grinch move fuck you got a fucked up childhood man you had older siblings telling you Santa wasn't real yeah coal in your stocking uh what's what's next yeah i press it for a kid assuming your brother wasn't very old at the time to get coal to get his hands on some coal yeah where did he get that coal i'm assuming from the grill Yeah, you're right.

Charcoal. I saw the best video recently. This young British kid who was on the naughty list and it's kind of like that. He said he's going to get coal for Christmas. I got to send you this, Chris. I mean, there's a little off topic. This kid is hilarious. He's talking shit to Santa.

Talking about he's going to uppercut his beard right off. It's the funniest shit in the world. I got to send this to the. It's pure Christmas gold. I want to cast some characters here. So we put together a little list of characters. We took 10 minutes amongst ourselves and tried to cast NFL players as these Christmas characters. I have some of these are kind of redundant, but I have Scrooge.

I've got Tiny Tim. Some of these people I had to figure out who they were because unlike most people, I don't think I watched a lot of different Christmas movies. We just put, It's a Wonderful Life in the Hopper and just rinse and repeat every Christmas. I think that was my dad's way of saying appreciate what the fuck you have kids. Here's a Christmas code break for you, Chris. I've never seen that movie. Yeah, well, your parents weren't poor.

You know, my dad actually, my dad was like, hey, son, it could be worse. Here's a black and white movie about a guy who almost kills himself and then decides that, uh, it's not that bad. I gave you the whole plot. He likes that deer hunter and Lawrence of Arabia. Oh my God, dude. My dad, the dark movies. All right, so who did you guys put as a, let's start with Scrooge? Scrooge, grumpy guy who just ruins Christmas.

Carl Chaffers. Carl Chaffers. Wow. Yeah, the official. That's the first guy that comes to mind. Here's a holiday. Uh-huh. Yeah, look at him.

He's smiling. We don't believe you. You're not happy. You're going to ruin somebody's Sunday. Carl Chaffers. Here's what I got for Scrooge, Chris. Bill Belichick because he's haunted by the ghost of Christmas past What is the ghost of Christmas past for him?

It's the, you know, the dominant years. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's good. Patriots are kind of coming off of a tough loss against the Raiders. And who, he's probably sitting in it there this week. He's haunted by all those good years and trying to figure how the fuck to get back there. Okay. How about Rudolph the Red Nose Reindeer?

So I got Gardner Minshu because. Nobody thought he was going to matter, right? And although he has a really good touchdown to interception ratio his entire career, he's just not thought of the same way as the other quarterbacks. But Christmas Eve, it's all down to him to lead the way, to light the sleigh. I love that. Yeah. I got kind of a similar vein here, but I got Josh Allen because he's lighting the way for the bills and the snow.

Yeah, that's good. Was, was, did, did, did Rudolph happen to be the biggest, baddest reindeer? Yeah, I didn't really look at it from that perspective, Chris. I kind of get the underdog, you know, perspective. But I was just, you know, topicals. The snow, they just came off a big snow, the snow game. They're dealing with the snow all the time. Rudolph was their entire run game, their entire past game.

Yeah. I never thought about how weird a genetic deformity that is. What? A red nose. Yeah, I know. Lights up. It's really fun. It's kind of cool, though.

It's kind of cool. All right. How about John McLean from Diehard? Oh, John McLean. So he's an agent of chaos. Matt reminded me of a line, come to California. We'll have a few laughs.

I'm going George Kittle. Nice. George Kittle just seems like a total, you know, yeah, agent of chaos. Reminds me Bruce Willis in those movies. He's going to go to that,

that Japanese plaza and just... Macatomi. Macatomi Plaza. So, Greenlight Pod is officially like diehard as a Christmas movie. Like we're, we're, you know,

we're taking that stance. Yeah. Because. Happened on Christmas. I mean, I get it. I think we're better than that kind of opinion, but I get it.

I like to think so. That's the, that's the multicolored lights of Christmas movie takes, you know? A little tired. I think we can do better. All right. You got anybody for John McLean,

Beau? No, I like George Gittle. I didn't have a good one. I like George Gill. That's a great fucking call, Chris. You can hit this one first.

Kevin McAllister from Home Alone. All right. This might be a little bit of a stretch, but I got, I got, you know, the goat, Tom Brady for Kevin McHallister, just because, you know, he's grinding.

He's trying to make it happen. He's trying to defend the NFC South, but he's got an empty house, you know? He's trying to just make it happen. He's not a lot of weapons, you know? He's making, he's making the fucking,

he's just making it happen with whatever's available. That's kind of what I was thinking. He's all alone. He's home alone, man. I mean, we're a year late with this, but last year I would have said Trevor Lawrence. Mm-hmm. You know, the poor guy, the only people in the house with him are Harry and Marv, and I've cast Urban Meyer as both of them. Oh, the wet bandits.

Yeah. They're the wet bandits. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the stinky finger bandits. Yeah.

Who's the pigeon lady, then? he's the pigeon lady too i don't know he's just yeah he's all the villains from all the home alone franchise yeah he's like uh he's like uh he's like uh he's like um edy murphy and nutty professor he's just playing different characters urban meyers is playing all the bad characters yeah yeah all right about santa claus oh santa claus he's got a lot of gifts he's obviously the king i'll let you go go first beau yeah i i like andy read for this one I mean, you think Santa Claus for whatever reason, Andy Reid just comes to mind. You know, made a joke about being a future mall Santa, but I could see Andy Reid doing that.

He's got all the gifts. He's got all the gadgets, all the little toys and all the trinkets, and he's passing out touchdowns to everybody. You know, he's got a smooth operation. His little elves are running it for him up there in Kansas City. I like Andy Reed for the big man. Okay. Got red, too, you know? I feel like that just works.

I don't have anybody for Santa. Okay, hold on a second. Santa. Santa. Not real. I don't have anything. Not having something is fine. How about Clark Griswold? Okay, I got something for Clark Griswold here. I don't know why it just kind of reminds me of Tom Brady right now. You know, like he's trying to fucking, he's trying to raise a family. You know, it's chaos. There's stuff going on. Nothing's going right for him. He really is. He really is more normal than people realize. It's just shit's going wrong, right? And Cousin Eddie,

is Antonio Brown. I love that. Yeah. That's nice. He's, fuck, this guy's here again. And the kids are like, Antonio!

And it's just like, get rid of him. No, dude. I think he has like a fucking ankle monitor on. He was supposed to, they had the fucking house surrounded. Remember two weeks ago when A.B., they were like,

yo, the DEA and the fucking Federals and the Tampa police, they're all camped outside his house. And then the next day, he's like posting court side from a basketball game. And in between there was a leak of a picture that looked like Giselle in his bed.

I saw that. I'm not going there. And that was treachery. You know, he found some young lady that looked like Giselle. Yeah, cousin Eddie is Antonio Brown. I like that. For Clark Griswold, I had Aaron Rogers. You know, because Clark, there's always something going wrong.

And it never really feels like it's Clark's fault, especially from his point of view. You know, it's always somebody else. You know, the program that, you know, shit's happening, taking wrong turns, left and right. Stuff's popping up, but it's not him. He's just, you know, he's doing everything right. Oh, another thing about Brady is the girl by the pool and the girl in the car, she symbolizes, like, a whole host of new hot blondes that are at his beck and call now. You see the new Instagram. I'm not saying she's hot.

I mean, not my type, but, you know. I'll say that. She's pretty high. I saw that. I've been seeing a lot about. types for sure i got a type uh but yeah no i think it really checks out no matter who we cast as uh clark yeah all right uh ralphi ralphi okay he's the guy and this kind of had to be explained to me

because uh i didn't really i wasn't as into that movie what's the movie i hadn't seen it either didn't stop me from wearing the bunny outfit for alooine but i think beau knows about it yeah but ralphi evidently he wants weapons right that's his thing he's like obsessed with weapons he doesn't have any he wants them and then at the end he beats up a bully or something like that uh give me lamar jackson get this guy some weapons maybe there's a happy ending for him i think um i think lamar's going to be back very soon yeah i like that i have a great one for ralphi so i like that one gross okay how about george bailey chris oh george bailey the guy that's like fuck this shit man this and then he's like ah i want back

in Sean Payton. Nice. George Bailey. You know? That's not a great one, but it'll play. I got a good one that I feel really, really good about. Yukon Cornelius. Jason Kelsey.

Exactly. You got. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Same thing. Yeah. I just read a little background research on Yukon Cornelius.

You know, he's greedy. He's reactionary and a hipster. A hipster. He's got a hard of. Heart of gold. Yep. That's our boy. We read the same bio on this Yukon Cornel.

Yeah. And Kelsey just, you know, dressed up as the guy from 51st states. And, you know, I think Kels could pull off Yukon Cornelos pretty well. He's got that big bushy beer and those ice picks. You know, I like to see Kels rolling in for a game.

Yeah, dressed up as Yukon Cornios. I think it would be a good move. Okay. On the same page on that one, you guys got any more like Frosty the Snowman or the Grinch? Yeah, sure. Frosty is Snowman. Come to life for a brief amount.

of time, fears that he'll melt, so he goes to the North Pole, Cole, Cole Beasley, you know? That's fucking gold, dude, yeah. That's not bad. Guy was like, yeah, I'm melting down here in Tampa. There's not much good going on down here. Yeah. I was thinking our boy, Ryan Fitzpatrick, comes to life, you know, short amount of time. He's got that magic.

Yep. And then it'll just melt away for a little bit, you know. We forgot about the Grinch, the guy who doesn't want anybody else. to have a good time. He's got a small heart. Is there anybody that you cast as the Grinch Bow? I don't know, Chris. Sometimes I log in on these Tuesday morning podcasts.

It's young. And that's you. You got some Grinch green in you. But you also, you know, I'm hoping your heart grow three times in size today, Chris. Thanks, man. I'll be your little bit of your old dog. Get a fuck out of here.

You're talking about my heart. My heart is strong. I had a good one. Tiny Tim. Oh, yeah. So Tiny Tim, you know, God bless us everyone. He's on crutches. He's, you know, a little banged up, but he's just appreciated what he has.

He just wants to be out there. I have Mike White for Tiny Tim. You know, he's getting his ribs reviewed by 10 doctors. He's just trying to get out there. You know, he wants to be part of the Christmas miracle with the Jets. And, you know, it's just not happening for Tiny Tim or Mike White right now. That's interesting. That's really interesting.

So Tiny Tim, they wouldn't let him play? they wouldn't let him play maybe he's odel beckham junior oh okay not passing any physicals see you next christmas yeah but in the end tiny tim actually

plays on christmas i'm sure okay so maybe maybe odell will sign with the team is it too late for odel to sign with the team no oh he could sign in buffalo he could yeah um that's the last of our

casting Bo, we were talking about the ideal stocking earlier? What goes in your ideal stocking? Well, I think your ideal stocking when you're a, you know, 30s plus D-Gen like us is a little bit different than, you know, what we'd want when we were kids, young scrappy youths running around. So we were riffing off the idea of, you know, what we'd put in a green light stocking. And the first thing that comes to mind for me, I like to, you know, we've talked about, you know, nicotine and tobacco on this pot. and we're a big zen boy. So I got my little tin of peppermint zen right here.

It's a very Christmasy flavor. I'm throwing in some, I'm throwing a little tin of peppermint zin in that stocking, you know, catch a little Christmas buzz. Pepperment zen. You got to go right from the peppermint candies and all that stuff to the peppermint nicotine. You know how a Somalié will pair different wine and food combos?

I like to do that with Zin. So I'm going to pair a little peppermint zin with some eggnog this Christmas season. you know really really feel good about that one i want some good weed high in terps um like none of this dog shit i've been smoking lately you've been smoking you've been smoking dr fax's weed huh no that's not it dr fax i haven't had any dr fax weed in a little bit it's just i've been uh let's i don't want to i don't want to go down this road but i haven't it's it's been a bad couple weeks okay so i i would like some i would like some um i want to see the tricombs you know oh yeah where you do you zoom in on it with your camera lens and you can see the little i mean i'm

not much of a weed guy like you chris but that's you know i like it in the full nug in your stocking a nug in the stocking sounds good me more than a nug yeah i like it's christmas i stay high on christmas i like it in the uh like really fancy liquor like little airport-style bottles, like a little selection. What are you going to go with like on Christmas? What's your Christmas little airport shooter? Little Bayleys or something? That kind of sounds.

Good Jameson. You hear him? Some rumplemans? I don't know rumplements. No, don't do rumplements. Check out some rumplements. Next time you're posted up at the bar, get a little rumpleman's. Kingsen, that'll get you going.

That'll warm you out. That'll go right back to 2003 for me. Yeah, that's a college thing. But just remember the best gift that everybody wants is cash. That's true. Absolutely. Or a transaction from Cash app. Cash app, yeah.

Some scratchers in your stocking, that's kind of fun because it's like, you know, potentially a huge gift, but even just the thrill of scratching those things off of the coin. If you throw a scratcher in somebody's stocking, they want a million dollars, do you feel like you're partially entitled for it? Yeah, give me, just throw me something. Yeah. I'll take me out to eat. Yeah, no question.

Bring me, give me a drink. But I also like, give me like a vanilla Coke. Put a vanilla Coke in my stocking. That's terrible. That's an awful opinion. It's a terrible taste. A terrible cake. A terrible cake is gross, man.

All right. Merry Christmas, guys. Don't freeze, Bo. We'll be back tomorrow with Kyle Long.