Green Light with Chris Long - Daytona 500 and NASCAR with Kyle Long. XFL with DC Defender Anthony Johnson.

Episode Date: February 17, 2020

0:24 - Welcome and College Basketball Betting. 1:30 - UVA Basketball. 3:35 - XFL. 6:05 - Daytona 500 and NASCAR. 10:25 - Africa. 16:45 - Anthony Johnson, XFL DC Defender, on XFL, his trade and the differences between AAF and XFL. 36:15 - Kyle Long on NASCAR. 41:08 - Are NASCAR drivers athletes?. 52:33 - Which sponsor would sponsor the Long Brothers as NASCAR Drivers?. 55:07 - Reclining airplane seats. 1:02:53 - Kyle's affinity to Nickelback and Creed. About Chalk Media: Following the unfiltered voice and vision of Chris Long, Chalk Media is the interactive online community for you, the intelligent and humorous sports fan. Driven by access, Chalk delivers a unique perspective that cuts through the canned talking points and provides a variety of content from your favorite sports and entertainment celebrities. Here at Chalk, we don’t take ourselves too seriously, but we are rooted in challenging the perception of professional athletes. We embrace the “real” with a unique combination of humor and intelligence. Chalk is a community with a voice beyond 240 characters that brings a perspective and vibe to a traditionally brash and boastful sports media space. Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more. Nothing is off limits at Chalk - hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. 🌍🏀🏈SUBSCRIBE NOW ⚾🏒⛰️ http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Welcome to Greenlight Pod. I'm Chris Long, your host, and I just realized that the fifth team and my five team, college basketball, Sunday Parlay is probably going to sink the whole thing. NC State getting the brakes beat off from by BC in the first half. I had Iowa and the five points.

I had Yukon Money Line. Who else did I have Money Line? I had, let's see here, Villanova Money Line, that started slow, but they absolutely, they finished strong. I also had Michigan Money Line and Yukon as well, if I didn't mention them. But it's all for not, just like last weekend when Clemson blew it against Notre Dame on the fifth leg of my five-team parlay, NC State's about due the same. So thank you, NC State for... my family money and also for beating us my senior year and keeping us from being a 10-win team.

I don't hold on to that stuff. I also had a good weekend, though, because Virginia won down in Chapel Hill last night, won money on that game, and obviously that was a huge win for my Virginia Cavaliers. What a ballsy shot to finish the game. I'm going to get good at saying this guy's name by the end of the season. Walden Tenci. Did I get that right, Cowboy Reed? Walden Tensai

He needs a nickname Woldy something like that Kehei Clark Baseline all the way underneath creates a shot for Walden Tensai Woldy and he pumps He has the wherewithal to know

That there's a couple seconds left He's got time Kind of fading to his right Knicks down a big three down one Down in Chapel Hill And really a must win game For Virginia Hoops You know

They had him projected to be like an 11 11. seed before the game in Chapel Hill last night. That was a big win. They're all going to be big wins right now in the ACC, where Virginia's at, but they're improving. And people on TV were talking about this,

and so I apologize for some of my non-Virginia fan listeners, but, you know, I'm going to be a homer for a second. You know, they did say on TV that either team, and that would be UNC and Virginia, Virginia is a lot more likely to get into the tournament right now. UNC's got a lot of heartbreaking late losses, especially lately with the Duke lost the way they lost that game and then the Virginia game last night.

Either team if they were in the dance would give teams problems. And I'm drinking the unlikely deep run Kool-Aid with this Virginia team. I think we'd win two games. I think we win two games in the tourney, even at 11. So college basketball weekend, been pretty good to me on a bit of a heater,

had the Albany under also. So it's been a good weekend There was XFL today My parley Did L.A end up winning that game? L.A. lost. So I almost hit on a 14 parlay But that was just something I gave out

I bet America. So you know what? It's funny during the football season I almost felt like a slave to betting NFL. It was like I just had to fire on every game. Having the space and there be like a full slate of games

in college hoops every night you don't feel the pressure to bet everything. You just pick your spots. And then if you want to bet football, you get this XFL thing. But right now, it's a crapshoot. As I mentioned last week, Vegas didn't even know what to make of it. And I think it's going to take like a month for them to know what the fuck's going on in that league.

Today, I do have Anthony Johnson, the landlord, as they're calling him in the XFL, one of my former teammates. He's going to be joining us on the Greenlight Hotline. I'm just going to call it that. I don't know if we have a name for it, but I'm going to go with Greenlight Hotline. I don't think anybody else's phone interviews are... I don't think anybody else uses the word hotline,

so we should be good on that. It's a lot like mailbag. It's a Greenlight original. Greenlight hotline. Anthony Johnson will be joining us on the hotline to talk about his trade from L.A. to D.C. Had a big day yesterday. One and a half sacks.

He's also going to talk about the quick turnaround, going coast to coast and being ready to play right away in that big DC win. They beat the breaks off the New York team. What the fuck is the name of the New York team up there? The Guardians. Guardians. The Guardians.

Yeah, the defenders beat the breaks off the Guardians, and Anthony Johnson is going to be a force for them. They have a pretty good defense. I'll ask him about that. He was also in the AAF, which to me is, it's interesting to hear from guys that were in that league, why they think the XFL is going to work and why the AAF didn't work. He also played four years in the league. I play with him in New England.

He didn't make the roster there, but man, he was on the bubble. And that was a pretty good defense we had. He was kind of a tweener, if anything, and that was his problem. There's a guy that's played inside, outside. He's fluctuated in weight. He's done really whatever coaches have asked him do. He's a great teammate. very explosive, explosive player.

We called him Freak, Kimbo, after Kimbo slice. And Anthony was a great teammate, great player. No surprise that he's going to be one of the stars in the XFL. So very happy for him, great to have him join us. And then also, of course, today in sports, in athletics, we also have a big NASCAR race, the Daytona 500. Heard of it? I have.

And I'm going to learn more about it because my brother, Kyle Long, You know, just retired. One of his big hobbies, the past few years, has been NASCAR, along with golf. He's a terrific golfer. My brother picks up golf, just like all the other sports he plays. Just picks up a stick. Here I go, stick. Picks up a golf stick.

That's the second fucking time I've done that, which goes to show you. I don't belong anywhere near a golf course. He picks up a club, and he just hits it far and straight and looks smooth doing it. When he played baseball in high school, he's like Ken Griffey Jr. I don't know who a lefty golfer is, but he looks like, you know, one of these long drive guys with an actual Phil Mickelson. He's a lefty. Phil Mickelson, he looks like a big jacked Phil Mickelson. Same calves.

I know they say Phil Mickelson's got those calf implants. Kyle's aren't implants. I know they're not implants, Phil, in case you're listening. But Kyle can hit it far and he can hit it straight. loves NASCAR. He does eye racing. He actually is a part owner of an eye racing team. He's done, he just was out in the desert,

like, you know, riding along with some Red Bull guys that were driving these trucks through the, through the desert, jumping over big hills and shit, breathing in sand and driving really fast. Out in like Nevada. And, yeah,

so Kyle's into that. He's going to explain what's going on with Daytona. And he's going to explain, explain his affinity for NASCAR to a total layman. Although I have been to one race. And the funniest thing about these races, I went down at Martinsville with some buddies. First off, a lot of flags that I didn't enjoy seeing at that event.

I would have thought there was a very popular car with that flag that we all know, one of the stars and bars as they call it that was not a great feeling to see all those flags um but the product on the track there product's pretty pretty decent now i i wouldn't sit in the stands and watch it um you know i was very lucky i had uh i had like uh i had like a hookup i knew one of the pit crew people and they had me down in the in the middle like on you would call it field level, track level, and I got to watch the cars whip around in real time. And that was pretty, that was pretty damn cool. It was exciting. And you know what I found out was like a lot of those former football, a lot of former football players work in pit crews. So, you know, I was running

into a couple guys that I played against. And I had no idea they were in NASCAR now. And they're the guys, you know, putting tires on and, you know, making sure, I don't know what, I don't know what the I'm talking about, so I couldn't even tell you what they were doing. But it's a very physical sport in that sense. I'll ask Kyle, you know, if you think NASCAR drivers are athletes. I think the pit crew for sure are athletes. Another thing was, it was funny when you get in the stands, and I tried to be in the stands for a little bit.

Everybody's got these radios on, like they're doing podcasts, like whole families, like little son, little daughter, mom, dad, all sitting there. They all have like, you know, the Kevin Harvick t-shirts on. They all root for kind of the same car. Entire families do. They got their radios. They know exactly what's going on. But every lap looks the same.

And, you know, I'm having trouble getting, sitting in the stands and watching it. But it's conceptually very exciting to me. These guys are total daredevils and psychos to be in these cars going this fast. I mean, it is. I'm watching a rerun right now. now of the Daytona 500 last year it's insane it's insane i just don't know if i could watch for three hours kyle will try to sell me on that so we'll have kyle on so tomorrow i'm headed to tanzania and i hate packing especially packing for an international trip but uh nonetheless i'm excited to

go because it's always nice going over there to see where we do our work uh water boys waterboys That's a clean water charity and I am taking a group over to start this safari program. You know, we've been doing conquering Killy, which is, you know, bringing veterans, combat veterans and NFL players over to climb Mount Kilimanjaro for, you know, I've, shit, I've done it four times now. So we've been going four or five years with that. I started that with my buddy Nate Boyer, Green Beret, Texas Longhorne football player, Seattle Seahawks. and we we started conquering killy to bring athletes veterans and NFL football players

mma fighters whoever over and give them a reason to go over and see the projects we do and of course the the the result is always that everybody's hooked you know when you get over there it's you go over for the climb it's one of the hardest things you do but when you leave you're really you fall in love with the projects the you know like the the water projects that we do the people that we meet, the difference we're able to make. So I'm really excited to start a safari program because truth be told, not everybody that goes over to climb that mountain really has what it takes

to climb a 20,000 foot mountain, but they power through. A lot of these NFL players might look and say it's the world's highest walkable mountain that's gonna be walking the park. I got there with Rob Nikovic last year and we're in our tent the first night and he's, and we're at like 8,500 feet the first night. And it's like a jungle at this point, but

really you don't worry about big animals. I mean, I suppose every once in a blue moon, you might see a larger animal like a lion or something or a wilder beast or something like that. A hyena might wander in. But, you know, if you ask the guides, they never do. But the whole night, I'd hear like a light click on, like a flashlight.

I was like, been to our tent. Like I'm like, Rob, shut the fuck up. I'm trying to sleep. And no. And then in the morning at breakfast, he's like, so I guess I didn't, I should have shared this with you, but I'd never slept outside before, so that was interesting. And then you get guys that, like, some guys I've climbed with,

they'll get down after Summit, and we get, we get down to, like, camp at 15,000 feet. You know, Summit's, like, almost 20 and get down to 15, and everybody's like, glad that's over because Summit night's miserable. And guys are, like, ready to fight. They're so mad. They're like, you didn't tell me it's this fucking hard. I'm like, I tried to tell you as explicitly as possible. This is really hard.

moral of the story not everybody is jazz to climb a big mountain that's fine i'll be back on the mountain next year i'm going to take this year off climbing to get this cushy safari program off the uh off the ground i'm going to take guys uh out into the uh the bush to see all types of big ass animals uh hopefully i hate to sound insensitive but killing each other and doing cool shit and you know doing things that nature nature does uh and also like having little babies baby animals and um you know it's not all about the predation guys i'm like i'm not blood thirsty but you know i i would like to see a lion take some shit down you know i'd like to see a lion von miller a fucking can't be like a flamingo i want to see like a lion take a big animal down

but you know the problem is if you're rooting for the lion and take a big animal down like you know there's fan favorites like giraffirfs nobody wants to see that um the animal that Everybody doesn't mind a lion taking down as like a wilder beast because there's so many of them. By the way, they're really dangerous. They're really dangerous. They kill a bunch of people over there. But I don't think anybody minds when a lion takes one of those things down. It's kind of nondescript.

It looks like animals we have over here a little bit. Hot take. Nobody really gives a fuck about wilderbees. Lions, however, hippos, even though hippos are really dangerous. hippos are kind of everybody makes hippos out to be these big cuddly animals they will kill your ass I want to see a lion take something down this time

so I hate to sound bloodthirsty but I was texting William Hayes who's going on the trip Whitney Mercilus also going on a trip Miles Garrett Ben Garland Greg Bell Chris Draft they're going on the safari side of it I was texting William we definitely want to see something get eaten

and that's going to be an interesting trip because Miles Garrett loves dinosaurs William Hayes is not believe in dinosaurs something's got to give and I look forward to getting all those guys on green light in some capacity I'm bringing my little remote pod set which is very intimidating fits in a backpack

I think when you good luck getting through Tanzanian customs are going to be like what the fuck is this thing it's this you know elaborate I don't know microphone microphone wire wire wire you know a little docking system so if i can work the technology you will have a multitude of uh of pod like um i don't know i don't know what to call them interviews or whatever we're gonna i'm going to be interviewing people in the bush it's going to be cool so stay tuned for that stuff i'm going to be out of town there'll be no me and makin here uh in the studio but we're going to have

a lot of audio stuff so pop on over to apple podcast and Spotify if your YouTube user solely to check out what we got going on this coming week it'll be a fun trip we're going to make a big difference we're going to raise a bunch of money for clean water love this trip every year hate traveling I hate long flights two weekends in a row your boy has been struggling had food poisoning last week had back spasms this weekend those are going to be interesting on a flight hopefully Hopefully I'm going to be feeling a okay coming off this trip. I don't get sick or anything like that. So yeah, looking forward to be back in studio,

but check us out on Apple Podcasts, Spotify. So without further ado, we've got my former teammate, Anthony Johnson, XFL Star, joining us on the line. Welcome now to the Greenlight Pod. This is a great teammate of mine. We spent a couple months in New England, and quite frankly, I think he should be on an NFL roster in the country seeing why.

XFL star Anthony Johnson. How you doing, man? Yes, sir. I'm slow motion big brother. You know I can't complain, man. Not trying to step on nobody told. No, you're the man, dude. All you're doing out there is making plays. All you're doing out there is making plays. And, you know, you had a

second half yesterday in your debut in D.C. They ship you across the country. You show up, you put on the new uniform, you ball out. Obviously, now, before I ask you about, obviously, the L.A. trade, which sent you to DC. I want to ask you about the most important thing here,

which is your nickname. You have so many. I knew you as freak. I knew you as freak or Kimbo. And now I'm here, you're the landlord? Yeah, man. So when the league actually first got started up,

you know, I was a part of the Los Angeles team out there in L.A. And kind of made a statement, man. Wanted to make some statements. And the NFL was filling that. So came over with the landlord's slogan and I've been running with it ever since, man. It's been going well.

So just had to let the New York Gallagher, you know yesterday that rent was due to me. So we had, we picked the first shoutout next to the third history. So, yeah, man, I love it. Well, yeah, I don't want to be the guy when the rents do and see you at my door, okay? Yeah, duh. So, first off, I'm really enjoying the league, man.

It does look a lot of fun. But obviously the first week was a little bit turbulent. You lose your coach, Pepper Johnson, who was with you. I just learned in Memphis. in the AAF because you played in the AAF. You've also played in the CFL. He wasn't there with you there, but he was with you in the league as well one year maybe in the NFL.

Yes, sir. Yep, he was with me out for a year in 2017 with a New York jet. So, yeah, man, me and Pep have a lot of history. Great, great defense of mine. Great coach. You know, one of the coaches that honestly made the move for me to go from defensive line to line back because he believed in me. So like I said, man, just thank you know, play and learn other Prepa Johnson.

And so his firing, you know, that was the spark that made you want to be on the move. I saw on Twitter. You said, I'm a free agent. Just a little bit, man. You know, Coach PEP, like I say, man, I appreciate the Los Angeles organization. But PEP pretty much was the guy that brought me in the draft of me, man. And, you know, after how, you know, I wasn't a fan of what happened after that. So to handle it as a professional, man.

And like I said, I got my coaches back just like he has mine. and went and made some pain shake. But, yeah, man, wasn't too happy. Well, you had a history with him. And also you mentioned, you know, changing positions a bunch. You have weighed, like, 330 pounds before. What's the heaviest? What's the heaviest you've ever been, man?

The heaviest I've ever been, bro, is 340 pounds. I was playing for the Miami Dolphins at the time, actually. It was back in 2015. I was wearing nose guard next to big Jared Aljic. And I was the 340-pound guy coming off that kill. So, yeah, man. about 2015, about five years ago. Which is crazy.

Okay, so you get to LSU out of high school, you're what, a nose tackle? I was a three-tech. I was actually 2083 pounds, yeah. And then you balloon up when you get in the league because they want you to be heavy, you get to 340 in Miami. And then when I play with you, and by the way, Anthony played four years in the league and with a few really good teams, and one was the Patriots team that I was on in 16. And when you got to New England in 16, you were like a 275.

pound guy, right? Yes, sir. 275, 275 pounds. So you lost 70, you lost 60, 70 pounds in a year? I had to. It was, I knew people looking like what the hell you do. But yeah, man, I had to change my life a little bit and lost that weight and showed it proved us. Help me, man. And I took to believe in me and got on that field with you, though. Yeah, that was fun, man. We had a lot of fun. And you were one of the most explosive guys off the ball, that first step. What do you bring into the XF? Like, what's your? If I don't know Anthony Johnson and I'm turning on the tape,

what should people know about you? What's your strength? Physical. Physical. That's the one thing I think everybody would always see when they turn on the tape. He's always physical. And honestly, now that I'm playing the back of position, I think a lot of people can get to see what type of football mind I have, my IQ.

So, yeah, man, I think that'll be the first thing you'll see the physicality of me. Well, I see you rushing inside at all, like the old days. man i told him to move me around man but they told me they need to burn it at edge you know so i told coach pep town whenever you need for the kid of nose i'd get down there in the three point but he told me he's perfectly fine with me rushing the edge and i don't got no problem man well you know you can play up and down the line and the versatility is one of your great strengths what was the reception in dc i mean you rolled up what like 24 hours before the game bro so i'm i'm gonna keep i'm gonna give you the story man i literally left los angeles at 430 uh landed in dc

at about two in the morning literally didn't get to bed until like 340 because I had to drive from Washington, Dallas to Maryland. So I literally woke up at so I went to bed at 3.45 last night and woke up at 7 yesterday in the morning

to play. The day of the game. Yeah, the day of the game, man, to go learn some plays and playing the game. So 7 a.m. You wake up. You're probably tired as fuck. Okay. Right? So then what? You got a team meal and what time was the game? This was the early game in the afternoon?

No, early game. So I kid you not, woke up at 7.30. I had to go meet a coach at about eight, went over the playbook, had a team nail at about 10. The game started at 2 Eastern time. So yeah, bro, we were, I was pretty much a red out of the whole day. I literally got no rest yesterday at all. Did you party after the game? Man, I had to. What did we start? I'm going to. That's what I'm talking about. I had to go let the streets know the landlord was in the streets the landlord was that i would have been right there with you buddy uh so who am i watching for on this on this dc team if i'm you know because there's a lot of unheralded stars that deserve recognition across the xfl a lot uh you're looking at the

dc defense and you guys are making a name for yourselves who are some guys that i should be watching for besides yourself uh i kid you not man we have a lot of guys but a guy that's sticking out to me and it stuck out in the NFL a lot. Sam Marco Thomas, man, safety, nickel guy. Really one of the guys that came out. When I first got here, I was like, man, one of the most aggressive guys and most outspoken guys on the team. Also, another guy that you need to be on the lookout for, a ride receiver here,

Eli Rogers, played a little bit for the Pittsburgh Steelers, I'm sure of. But he's a baller, too, though. We have a lot of good guys on this roster, man. DC is pretty low, and I'm just thinking to be a part of it, you know? You guys also have some good uniforms, man. I feel like you can swag those out pretty good. Yeah, you can't go wrong with the all red, dog. Next week we can in LA, so we're wearing the ice of right, the ice white next week.

You know, I love the old whites. Oh, yeah, you know that. I got to go get me a full of white. Even I can look fast in the all whites. Even I can look fast in the all whites. That's why you got to have the fit right. Who's got the worst uniforms in the XFL now that we're on the top? topic. What could you not swag out?

I kid you not. Not the swag out. The one uniform I think the one uniform I think I cannot swag out is the Tampa Big Vipers uniform. I kid you not. That lime green. I don't know how they're going to do it for a home game. I don't know either with the pirate ship up there. Do they play at the Raymond James or they play somewhere else? I think they play at Raymond James Stadium. I think they do, yeah. Snakes in the pirate house with the with the lime green. I don't know how that's going to go. I don't know how it's going to work at all, bro. But, but, you know, yesterday you're playing, you're playing New York,

and McGloin goes viral, the quarterback there, right? Because he threw the coach under the bus. And it's not the first time, right or wrong, because as you know, as a player, sometimes it is the fucking coach's fault. Right, right. But what do you think about this new thing with the XFL where you come to the sidelines after a great play or a bad play or a bad performance or a great performance you could have a microphone in your face well what's the protocol there do they ask you permission first bro bro literally

no protocol so what y'all getting is live and inspect like right now as soon as we get off the field so whatever's like whatever's going on in our mind you're about to get it yeah and honestly i like the idea man because again like i say football everybody knows football is a great game and people love to see what the players are thinking and want to see what the players are thinking and want to what's going on behind that face, man. So to give us the opportunity to express ourselves after a big player and for the fans to get those emotions, though. I tell you, it's doing a lot for the XFL, and it's doing a lot for the game of football.

You can see it. I think it's great. You know, I think it's great as players. I mean, we've been miced up before. Certainly, I bet you were miced up at some point, whether it was in the league or at LSU. And, you know, you have control over that. You know, at the end of the day, if you're miced up by your team,

after the game, they run through it. if there's anything that makes you look bad, if you lose your cool, if you say something bad, they're going to cut it out. But, you know, it's no holds barred with the sideline interview. So I think it's pretty cool. What rules do you see as a player? I know maybe not as many as a delineman, but there's some position players out there who might be looking at these XFL rules.

And teammates are yours like, I have to adjust to this. Guys have played in league, college football, even guys in Canada. What are the rules that you notice that guys are having the most problems adjusting to? Honestly, the one thing, And this is a little bit of a different rule for me. But my last week, last week I was on the kickoff and, you know, not having that running start kind of mess with me a little bit because I like to have a full-headed thing.

Yes, I've seen it. I think that rule, honestly, it's beneficial for the game. But I do think it takes away from a lot of the big players and things on special teams as well. So, yeah, man, that's still a rule we're still trying to get adjusted to, but I think it's worked out well so far. How about the one with the headsets? You got six guys on defense with the headsets, right? With headsets, yeah.

So now we have, now it's actually two guys. So you have a mic back and you have a safety with headsets. Okay, got you. Yeah, man. So it's actually two guys you could have talked to on the field at the same time now. And the headsets don't cut off. You know, the NFL usually like 15 seconds into the play clock, you know, communication with coaches stop.

Yeah. But here in the XFL, we can talk to our coaches throughout the whole play call. So, I mean, that's beneficial for us as players, too, you know, because they can see something in the boot that we can't see right there. And the play clock is shorter, yeah? It is. It's actually the 20 seconds. Like, I think making the game faster is better for the offense

and also better for the defense. But sometimes the offense can get cut off guard and, you know, give us a couple of free plays. But like I said, man, this game now is for the fans. And a lot of guys are trying to get back into some different situations. But, yeah, I think, you know, the speed of the game, There's been a big impact so far. And then it's like, because I remember being a league, at least when we were in New England,

we were learning that defense, which is the playbook was, you know, like a stack of Bibles, you know. What? Yes. And, you know, do they have to simplify defenses and schemes a little bit because of the quicker play clock, you know, on defense? You got to get your checks in. You got to get your calls in. They do. They do.

So the playbook. Playbooks do have some structure here, a little bit more structure because, you know, you have to put some things in on a shorter period of time. So coaches aren't trying to confuse a lot of guys. You know, you do have different, you know, different sets of guys. You got guys that are fresh out of college, guys that have been out of football for about two, three, even four years. And guys that like myself, you know, I just left Canada, you know what I mean? I'm never out of the game too long.

So coaches just try to keep a simple for us and not try to make anything difficult so we can play fast, man. But I think it's like I say, man, I think the XFL has been cool. and you can see that the structure and organization will have because it's been successful in a short amount of time. You mentioned having played in other leagues. You were in the AAF.

And I know, you're, you don't like, you know, dragon or trash in other leagues or anything like that, but the AAF failed. And, you know, I watched that and I'm thinking of guys who have invested all this time, obviously the way it ended, the chaos. Yeah. Why is the XFL not like that?

And give me an illustration. of why the AAA was so hectic? Man, ha, first of all, man, Memphis, I love this city of Memphis,

man. Shout out to the Memphis Express. That was my team in the AAF and a nice signature of my head coach. But, man, the structure, like I said,

I feel like just the ownership. Vince McMahon has done a great job so far, rebranding the XSL. And as, as he said himself, he's put over $500 million of his own earnings to make sure this league can run and stay up for at least two to three years. So at the end of the day, I just feel like this league has been structured better than the

AAF. Not saying Charlie didn't do a great job of promoting and trying to do everything in his due diligence to make the AAF work. But Mr. Edwards just lost money, right? Yeah, just lost money, man. It came short in a lot of the areas, man. A lot of the investors didn't be backed out. just didn't think the league was going to be good.

And honestly, it showed a little bit, you know what I mean? The ratings went down, the keep of the stadium. You can tell the difference from the excess town in the AEF, man. Look at the stadiums. And a road trip, I mean, road trips are probably different, right? I mean, for players on the team, like where you're eating, where you're staying? Everything, you know what I mean? And the cities, too, the cities as well.

When you look at football, the AAP, they weren't in real football cities. There probably some college towns, but, you know, those cities weren't good for professional football, like Birmingham and Memphis, just to name a few, you know what I mean? So, I mean, like I said, they probably could have been a little bit better and took their time with some things. I felt like the AEF rushed it a little bit. Yeah. I feel like the XFL actually took their time the past two years to make sure they had everything etched stone and now it's up and running, huh? What's the goal of most guys in that locker room? I know everybody's got different goals.

They have different histories. Yeah. You've got guys like you who probably people look up. to because you played about a half decade in the league and you're a star now but there are guys that they might not have played in the league. There's guys that probably wish they were going to be back in a league soon.

What's everybody's goal? Like when you talk to guys like what's the end with this with this thing? With the league, I kid you not. A lot of guys want to make this thing work. A lot of guys are, you know,

we've all been a part of the league. We've all been a part of different situations. Every professional company has politics. Everybody deals with things that they don't want to deal with. But when you look at the XFL and they made it clear, Vince McMahon made it clear. He's not trying to be a little brother league. He's not trying to be a spring lead. He wants it to be a league for the next 50, 100 plus years if he can make that happen.

And I think he's on the right track this time around with a lot of the guys that they put in position as leadership. You've got a couple of guys like myself and Cardell Jones, my teammate, who are a couple of big-name guys have been around so fans could have a little bit of relationship with the players. And I think, like I said, overall, if we do what we have to do the first year in this league, I think you'll see a lot more people trying to be a part of this league. So at the end of the day, man, like yesterday, the XFL has nothing to do with the NSL at all, but NFL ESPN posted my interview with the airline, you know what I mean?

So at the end of the day, pub is pub, and just football is good football. So like I said, a lot of those guys, yeah, they want to, and it's a great opportunity for a lot of those guys to get back into the NFL who want to get back. But when opportunities happen like this and you get guys who can stay home and play in front of family and make things a little bit more personal, I think that's a huge difference. So I thought the biggest play you made yesterday actually was your post-game interview when you addressed the... Well, you kind of went back and forth.

You were like, yeah, you know, I'm not against reclining on airlines. How surprised were you that you were asked about the airline? I kid you not. Diana walked up to me, man. She was like, so Kimbo, I'm asking you this question about the airline. Have you seen the video with a guy punching the back of the lady, you know, punching the seat? Yeah. I said, I saw it, but what does I have to do with you?

You said, okay, people want to know. What do you feel about recline? That's a great question. man it was a great question bro and I told I said I got something for you to let me muster something up right quick and I went out there you know I'm gonna be myself Chris no I know no I know no I well

so the thing for me so you know where I'm at that guy was dead wrong but I am not I mean that guy was overboard that was fucked up but yeah he was yeah he was fuck he was but but don't recline yeah that's it don't especially when you see I'm on the left seat in the plane and I'm over 6 feet.

Yeah, and you're 6'4, 270 pounds. I mean, you know, my knee's already in the back of your chair. Already, bro. Don't do it. They got to understand that, man. They really, an airplane's got to do better with that, too. They don't give us legs to. They have to understand the normal size of a human is at least 6'2.

So you've got to give us some space, man. Yeah. Well, hey, listen, I know you're about to be an even bigger star than you are. Now you're going to have a great platform. I hope you keep on speaking for the voiceless here on the on the airline the issue have you have you done the bud light seltzer thing after the game have you like chugged a selzer I was a I was the poor I chugged one yesterday man he didn't catch me I'm gonna get my shotgun on next week in that later I'm letting out what I'm holding me to that

how was it how was it bro it was the mango sleeve of the mango slay for two guys shut out the bud light I love it dude I love it Kimbo, Freak, Landlord, Anthony Johnson, one of my favorites, dude. Thank you so much for joining us, and I'll be looking for you the rest of the year. Real quick, who's the team to beat other than the D.C. defenders? Before I let you go. Hey, man. Hey, man.

Much respect to this team. Much respect to the XFL, Roughnecks, man. Down there. Roughnex, okay. Okay, cool. So, yeah, man, that's about it. I'll be looking for that collision course, man, whenever you guys play each other. Best of luck, man.

I'll talk to you soon. Thanks for coming on. I always appreciate the big brother. Thank you for having me. So you do. Cowboy, we dialed Kyle up. He's good. Welcoming me to the Green Light Podcast

is my special in the field, NASCAR correspondent. He's a giant man. He played seven years in the NFL. Chicago Bears legend. Kyle Long is also related to me, or I'm related to Kyle Long. Kyle, how you doing, man?

How's the race going? I'm doing awesome, man. It's always nice to come on here and talk. You've been hanging out with Dad all morning and afternoon. I think he's sick of me. The Dayton of 500. Yeah, so I turned it on, Kyle, because I wanted to know how much time was left in the NASCAR race. And I noticed that the cars were still driving around.

And I thought maybe after that we could get you on air here. And then I realized that that's last year's race, yeah? That's on TV right now. Yeah, I mean, you're not the first person to do that. What's going on? Why did they, why did they, uh, quit racing today? Well, Daytona is on the

eastern seaboard there in Florida. I think they call that the Pacific side. Subtropical. As you know, Florida's got those flash pockets of rain and that's what they've experienced, but this is a speed week, so there's been races all week and the weather hasn't really changed much. It's been nice with pockets of rain

and hopefully we'll get to see this thing go green pretty soon. Is green mean like they fucking, they go, they get in the car, they drive left? Well, what happens is there's, you know, they got to wait for this rain to stop, and then they got to bring out their million-dollar equipment that drives the track, and it's, you know, two-and-a-half-mile track, so that takes a while. And you don't want any moisture out there because these dudes are doing 20-mile-an-hour

in a pack of 40 cars. So when I say go green, they're rolling out there. They do two pace laps, and then the third time around, the pace car leaves and the green-plag waves, and that's when we get to see these cars get going again. So do they have lights? Like, I'm serious now. like I haven't even turned it on. Okay, so what's going to happen now if it gets rain?

Like, how many laps were they in? That's not good. Something like that, but... That's not good. You know what the good thing is about this, and I know it's not good probably for the fans that are trying to enjoy it and know how much time, as you said, is left in the NASCAR race. But for a lot of these drivers, especially the guys who are in their first Daytona 500,

I mean, this is a spectacle. You got a lot of stuff going on pre-race. So if you get a chance to go run 20 laps and then come back to the pit and meet with your team, it's almost like that locker meeting at halftime, what are the adjustments we have to make, how does the car feel, and how do we feel moving forward with the car? Now, to be, I just went, you know, again, I talked about it before you were on here. I mean, you are a NASCAR fan. You're not some poser fan like you like to race in your iracing car.

You own an i racing team Yeah my buddy jr and i We are part of the nascar i Coca-Cola took over the main sponsorship this year mode motorsports We've had a lot of fun doing it I enjoy racing and it's been something to Fill my time when I'm outside the locker room

So these these uh video games Actually how they have motors That I use yeah there is a motor but uh describe this apparatus describe this apparatus you've always been a big gamer and what came first the gaming racing or like liking race cars and then like saying i think i'll try this out like i'll get a big expensive uh race car from my basement well you know you had two crazy younger brothers when you were growing up and you were always smarter and a bit more tame howling anything with an engine crashing anything that could be crashed breaking anything that could be broken

racing, I never knew I was into racing, like in terms of motorsport, but I always like driving. I met Dale Jr. in 2003, I believe, at the Radio Shack 500, Dad Graham Marshalled it, and I met Dale Jr. early in his career. It was a couple years after his father passed at Daytona, the track where they're racing today. And I remember how cool he was. And it wasn't until later in life that I realized how much appreciation and respect I have for these drivers. And, um, It's really a marvel to watch. You would consider them athletes, yeah? It's an argument that I have a lot, and I don't consider them athletes.

I think they're extremely talented, and I think that they are, you know, if they're driving on the interstate, they put behind them so they can tow their nuts around. But I will say that I don't think they're athletes. Now, I would push back on that because anybody who has to piss themselves during a live performance as an athlete. Hey, Chris, I've played World of Warcraft. long enough to where I'd had to piss in a bottle below the desk as a younger. Not to be too graphic here, but I've seen my fair share of off-color citrus coolers laying around the house next to our video games.

I mean, you get, I guess they are athletes. They deal with extreme heat. They're using their bodies. So I guess they're meeting a lot of the criteria there. Yeah, because I bet like when you're steering, Kyle, don't you feel it like in your, like, pecks and your biceps, you're straining? Yeah? Because when I've played like Hydro Thunder

or I get in like one of the NASCAR things at Dave and Busters, I can really feel it after a little bit if I'm not careful I'll catch a little cramp. Yeah, you know, you got to be careful. Your ankle gets tired, especially at the short tracks when you're using the brake pedal a lot. Yeah.

But you find that this plate, restrictor plate racing, these guys are on it, you know, pedal to the floor, pretty much the entire time, and they have minimal wheel, or, you know, their steering wheels moving really minimally. And if they're not smooth on the wheel, it creates drag on the car, and they don't want to go slow. And that's what drag does. So you also like golf, though, by the way, you've been getting into golf a lot lately, and you're very good at it. Surprise, surprise, surprise. Do you think golf is, you know, those are athletes? I absolutely think the golfers are athletes. And the fact they don't let them ride golf carts

is even more indication that they are just superior. Elite athletes. Elite athletes. What do you like more golf or racing? Those have been kind of your two, you know, like in the last five years, your two big hobbies. Well, luckily, you don't have to marry either one. I think you can enjoy golf and enjoy, like, if I had to pick one, I'd probably go with motorsport, to be honest, because you can get everybody involved.

I feel like it's probably a more accepting crowd if you go to Talladega than if you went to Augusta. Yeah, that depends. I feel like I get along more with the, the mean populace. The mean populace. Got it. Yeah. So when it comes to NASCAR, there were two, as I was learning about it today on my laptop before I called you and doing some research on NASCAR.

I noticed that the biggest race is at the beginning of the year. So you kind of, your Super Bowl is the first race, yeah? One. And then I also noticed that the cars drive backwards, counterclockwise, yeah? They do travel counterclockwise around. the track. Is NASCAR trying to take our country backwards? It's a very good question, Chris. And I think in a lot of other countries, they do go right. Australia, they do that. But, you know, if you want to talk about progression as a nation, I don't know how Australia petition, but they go right,

we go left. So I guess, I think it's where you're at. Kyle, you got 40 racers out there today. I'm a big uniform guy. I know you appreciate uniforms as well. You talk about the paint jobs on these cars. I was just researching some of these paint jobs, and I have a few that stood out to me. Are there any that stand out to you for better or for worse out of this crop of drivers today?

Well, I think one thing that's really cool about the paint is the Wood Brothers paint, the 21 paint, and you can check it out on Google or maybe in post-production or something. Oh, we do it right now. This is a high-tech studio. So Woodbrother, the Wood Brothers have the 21

font, and nobody else can use that. And it's a very cool font for the number. And you know, it's unique to them. It's been around for a long time. Oh, this is very old school, yeah? Yeah, it's old school. I think the 24 paint is beautiful. It's very similar to the Jeff Gordon

paint that we grew up watching with the flames on the side. And, you know, the Napa paint I'm watching now from last year's race is really cool as well. And there's a lot of great names that are, like ourselves, are carrying on the last name of their father's sport. and there's a lot of classic throwback paint stuff

and it's really cool yeah you know I noticed probably my favorite was Kevin Harvick he's got a flaming bush light car if I saw that correctly yeah and you know I have a lot of respect for Kevin Harvick but he's kind of the heel in my mind

is he the heel and every time that I he's not the heel but in my mind he is because everybody that I pick to win he always ends up beating them he's really good well I like his I like his car here. Also, I noticed

on the other end of the thing, Brad Kozlowski, he's got a very basic, boring looking car. His car is a discount tire, is his sponsor? You know, some of the coolest sponsors, you're amazed

because you know how expensive it is to probably get on here with all the TV and all that's... But yeah, Brad Kislauski, I mean, people know him because he can drive his ass off. He sure can't. I'm looking at a picture of this Joker. He just looks like all that he gives a fuck about his racing. I'm sure they line his pockets pretty well, too.

Yeah, I mean, but the car is kind of basic. I know how good he is. I like the bubble Wallace car. It's got the, you know, the Air Force teeth in the front. He, in fact, jumped out of a plane and landed in a helicopter, in a parachute in the infield, either today or yesterday. So also to have, you know, spit fire with the jaws and the teeth. in the front is pretty bad at.

Seems like a me guy. You know what? He's also a PC gamer, so I like him a lot. I'm just joking. I'm sure he's really awesome. I'm sure he's really awesome. Now, I mean, I would argue, though, if he doesn't win every race,

that, you know, the other drivers don't support the troops. Oh, my gosh, Chris. Well, I think that's a hot take. That's our first hot take. If somebody's got Air Force on the side of their fucking car, you let them win. You know what? I think your logic is not flawed.

Hard to argue there. And then finally, I really like the, one of the Bushes, the monster energy car. That's really badass. That looks like the heel car. So Kurt Bush is a friggin' wheelman. And in recent history, there's three manufacturers, there's Toyota, Chevy, and Ford. The Toyota's in recent history have been in dominant fashion in terms of research and development.

Their cars have just been flat out better. everybody's supposed to have an even playing field but Toyota's done it the right way. Kurt Bush's brother Kyle races and is the former champion of last year in a Toyota. Now Kurt drives a Chevy and he's usually last year, one of the only cars in the

top five, top ten every race in a Chevy. It's a testament to not only a skill, but also I think that badass paint job. Yeah, it's a great paint job. You know, just don't get stuck with something like Kroger like my man, Steinhouse, like I was just Googling through.

Okay, you can't be. butcher Ricky Stenhouse's name and the Kroger has because Ricky Stenhouse has one of the most incredible mullets you'll ever see. I'm sure he does. Let me check him out. But I just thought to myself, like, when I see the brand Kroger, I think about, you know...

Exceptional meat, a wonderful deli, and a tremendous... Well, meat that might have been injected with some steroids. You know, I'm not... Ten houses... injected with steroids. Yes, nothing. I mean, I'll shop at Kroger.

I really like their produce, by the way. Favorite racer, Kyle. Who is your favorite racer? My favorite racer or NASCAR driver? Favorite NASCAR racer. My favorite NASCAR driver. No, they call them racers. If I just pick one, I'll get butchered.

But I really obviously enjoy Kyle Bush. We share a first name. He's a candy man, rowdy. He's a badass, and he's one of the most talented guys you'll see in an uprising guys. I'd liken him to Jay Cutler. extremely talented, but polarizing. You can't be an asshole, which it sounds like all that was like a way to compliment an asshole.

He's an asshole, but he drives it. You know what? I've met him, and he's actually a really good guy. Yeah, but I mean, like a competitive asshole. I'm not saying he's a jerk. He'll have NASCAR. He's the heel. He is the true heel of NASCAR.

But he drives the Eminem's truck or car, so it makes no sense to me. The Candy Man. I mean, you know, you don't want to see the Candyman behind you because he's going to end up in front of yet, and if you don't let him, you're probably going to end up in the wall. He seems like just out of a NASCAR movie badass. Kyle, would he win Mortal Kombat among all NASCAR racers? No, I think Ryan Newman is up there on my list, and you can check out his stature. He's an absolute fire hydrant.

Matt DeBenadetto, he's a cross-fitter, but I'm not sure if he's... I like this Ryan Newman guy. I like this Ryan Newman guy. He is thick with two Cs. Yeah, Ryan Newman, when God made him, he gave him incredible skill in a race car and he gave him no neck. No neck, bro. He is just pile driving your ass by the karaoke stage, by the jukepox in the back of some dive bar. And get into your window and let you know how he feels.

So do you, do they fight these guys? They do fight. I mean, my guy, Kyle Busch has been in the pit. What we know is a fight is probably different from. Yeah, these are dust subs. They do crap. And I think that the better fights are between the pit crews, because the guys you carry the tires are all former athletes.

Yes. They're all real badass dudes. And, I mean, they're fighting behind the scenes. We watch the drivers slap each other, but these guys in the pit are really fighting. So, Kyle, I was noticing when I was Googling, you know, the Mortal Kombat, I wanted to see who the biggest drivers were. There's not a whole lot of big ones.

the average height of a NASCAR driver, I believe, is 69 inches. You go about 75 to 76 inches. Is there hope for you to get in a NASCAR one day and drive? And does your height and your size prohibit that? I was explaining to dad, we were watching the coverage earlier, and we were commenting on how good of a job Michael Waltrip does in the pits. And we know DW, Darrell Waltrip, three-time Cup champion. He's the big announcer who's, it's his first year, not in the booth.

the guy in the pit. He talks to all the drivers. He's about 6-6. Oh, really? And, you know, he made a living doing this. Really? If he can fit, I know my skinny ass now can fit. Yeah, you are skinny now, but back, you know, a couple months ago, I don't know if you're getting in one of those, those NASCARs. Um, Kyle, if you had to pick a car and a sponsor, what would it be in a number? Car, like, like, like, uh, like you had, not, nah, don't wow me with, with the technical shit, because I'm not going to know what you're talking about. I'll just sit here nodding my head.

Just talking about what color your car is, who's your sponsor. Are you like Peptobismol? I'd probably be in the Gillette car or the Walgreens car, potentially Pepsi. That would be a cool car, I think. I think they'd have an awesome paint, and obviously they're a great sponsor. I would be Codiac.

I missed that car. You know, the Codiac paint was awesome. I'm not sure if they have any limitations on tobacco sponsors. Because nobody choose tobacco. in the NASCAR stands. Well, I think the idea is that they don't need to be on cars anymore. Yeah, I like that. So, Kyle, I guess before I let you go, because I've learned so much about NASCAR here,

I noticed there's a guy named Jimmy Johnson's last year. Jimmy Johnson, who would he be in the NBA or the NFL? This is like his retirement victory lap. Who's the equal pro-athlete in other sport? You hear me? Yeah, got you. Wow. You look at the winningest NASCAR driver ever.

Wow. Nothing's jumped out at us, and he's an accurate. A good comp there. Comparison. Can you tell our dad that we never used to walk on the NFL Fox set and make noise? Like, could he keep it down in the background? We're doing a... It's all good, man.

He's getting up there in years. Sometimes I think he forget. He talks louder than where he is. He's talking, yeah. What? Kyle, we talked about racing. You know, while I have you here, there's a couple other things that jumped out. And I want to get you on the pod a lot more here with some regularity.

I noticed this week that you're a recliner in all this, in the wake of the viral video and some rants online. I noticed that you recline your seat and you are okay with people reclining their seats. Who hurt you? Well, now that I get, the thing about travel, whether it is beginning, but you have to have, Well, Kyle, I would agree. And there's nuance here, as you mentioned. I mean, I'm not going to get mad at everybody reclines. I'm largely team anti-recline. Now, if a huge dude is in front of me that looks like he's just, you know, that guy that's walking, and we're both that guy at different times, you especially when you were about 3.30. But when you get on a plane and you're sitting back and coach because it's a regional jet or something, there's that guy that walks on the flight every time. And everybody, as you walk by in the aisles, like, not me. Please don't sit next to me. If that guy sitting in front of me, me, I'm not going to be mad at him for reclining. He's huge, right? Now, somebody's small who's just, you can tell they're a business.

They're usually like some businessman that's, you know, owns a small business or is a CEO or something. I don't know what they do. They usually order a bunch of booze and they just, as soon as they can, they just jerk back and recline super hard. And it usually hits me right in the knees. And that's why I'm just kind of anti, you know, in coach, point taken in first class. but in coach, I think it's just kind of a no-no.

And, you know, I heard people this week saying, well, first off, the guy in question in that viral video, we all agree, is wrong. Well, you know, you can keep it real, and they're going to put your big ass in those cuffs. I'm going to be keeping it real, goes wrong. Sitting across the aisle, I'm going to slap the hell out, and I'll just be able to go to sleep. But, you know, I think it's messed up. I think it's, I think it's messed up. this is the culture we're in, then people can't communicate. You know,

I don't have it. Yeah. I just, I just feel like, you know, if you're reclining and my knees are already on the, on the, on the seat in front of you,

I'm just, I'm not going to be shy about getting things out of my bag every three minutes. Like, I'm going to shift a lot. I'm going to jerk a lot. And, you know,

you're not, you know, I'm not going to be punching the back of your chair, but I am going to be kneeing the fuck out of your chair on a regular basis. You know, one's there in a little window spot. No,

you did not. You put, taking my shoe off and I put my foot up there. You put that fucking fleshy cinder block next to somebody's face. Yeah, that's the move I made. Why did you do that? Well, you know, sometimes your back's against the wall and that, and that's it. That is just, that's hideous.

That's a hideous, I mean, visualization. I can't even, I don't know if I'm able to get it out of my head. You know, but so that just goes to show. Everybody's got something. You were kind of, we were talking about this early in the week, and you were kind of taking a moral high ground as saying like, hey, you pay for the seat, you get to recline, don't complain. You know, it's not a big deal. but you've actually stuck your your your your your your your your hoof on somebody's shoulder you know I've never touched anything with my foot but I've definitely gotten in their space

that's disgusting I can't again again and another thing is people are like you know again why wouldn't you get to recline if the button's there that's the argument people are making like hey listen like um if it's available you should be able to do it well yeah technically you can do it, but there's just some things you just don't do. You know, I would liken it to, you know, for people that take buses, you know, if you're on a Quicks bus or Greyhound, I would think there's like an unwritten rule like in baseball. You don't take a dump unless you're absolutely about to shit yourself. Like you don't blow up the bus bathroom.

And some people would say to that, well, you know, if it's there, why not, why don't, why can't you use it? I mean, I paid for my ticket and I would say that there's. I'll bring up another topic within the realm of truly flights where every, like I'm talking 6 a.m. flight, people are exhausted. Every dark and people can sleep in. The one pro open across the aisle. And it's just like, take a look around and understand what everybody else is doing.

That's if you can sleep on a plane. I can't sleep on a plane. Bad for you. Yeah, no, it's been a rough go. But I just want to clear that thing up. I think that, you know, the unfortunate, here was the funny thing. Last week, I shared that clip where I kind of exaggerated that I'm going to kick your seat. I'm going to knee your seat.

I'm going to inadvertently quotation marks shift your seat as I grab things out of my bag. We did the pod and answered a mailback question and the very next morning that video went viral. And then our team here at Chalk posted our excerpt of the pod the same day as if I was reacting to that to that instance. that guy was dead wrong, no doubt about it, but you will catch a knee or two from me if you do recline. The only thing that didn't piss me off about the guy was he actually, and I had to watch it, me and Meg were watching like five times to hear what he was saying.

He said, this is going to be a turbulent flight. Yeah, I was trying to figure out what he was saying as well. He said this is going to be a turbulent flight. Now the FBI is involved because the woman is saying that her chair was getting punched. Now, I understand that everybody in your, first reaction was I would slap the shit of him. Like, yeah, maybe you would. Maybe you wouldn't. I'm not trying to leave in cuffs, but if it were my wife...

Going to home plate, talking to his teammates' video more to try to decipher what was being said. Yeah, no, I mean, I watched, no, Al Tuvei. Altuvei was worried about his third nipple. Did you know? They just said third nipple, bad tattoo, I've heard it all. I can't wait to get to the bottom of that. No, but the guy said that it was going to be a turbulent flight. That's what it was. Kyle, another thing real quick, you know, I said this earlier. I said before I let you go, but you're just so fun to talk to, Kyle.

You like Creed and Nickelback. You were tweeting about this earlier this week. Can you justify that? My affinity to Nickelback probably is riding the co-tail. Liking Creed is similar to the... And it is similar. I enjoy Nickelback. What's your favorite Nickelback song?

Don't tell me. Yeah, don't... What is it? S-A-V-I-N-A-N-A-N-A-M. Look at this photograph. You know, it's not wrong to like, it's not bad thing. No, no, like we just have stigmatized the band so much. And I actually thought Creed got a bit of a bad rap, so I would agree with you.

Rap. Horrible rap. Listen, and recently, just off of, you know, my appreciation for Creed, I bought this cologne called Creed. smells fucking great i don't think it's affiliated with the with the band but it's a great it's a great have it as well it's a clear bottle with the black drippy top yep what i do yeah i walk around the house and spray it on uh on my wife and sing creed lyrics that's that's why you guys keep making that dad thinks it's funny yeah he did what an ultimate helicopter dad he's just hovering over our interviews like he had dad give us a give us a break here

in allegedly his house. Kyle, get your own house, man. What the fuck? Kyle Long, appreciate you joining me. When I get back from Tanzania, we will make this a much more regular occurrence

and enjoy the rest of the NASCAR race. Hopefully the rain clears up and they can finish. I would love nothing more than to join you more often, man. I hope you guys get to see this race go green. Thanks for having me. I love it when they go green. All right, man, take it easy.

So again, thanks for, joining us. Again, one more reminder. Apple Podcasts, Spotify, we will be taking this show on the road to the bush. Green light in the bush. East Africa, Safari, Whitney Mercilus, William Hayes,

Miles Garrett, Ben Garland, Chris Draft, Greg Bell, number of guys, go to do some content. Also, I vow to watch every Oscar nominated, well, let's say every Oscar winning film and do a pod about all that stuff in my 30-something hours of air travel that I've got going in the next week. So check all that out. Again, we'll be back in the studio, but in the meantime,

we're going to be dropping some heat from East Africa. Thank you all. Take care.