Green Light with Chris Long - DeMeco Ryans! Nick Caserio! Texans Trending Up, DeMeco as the HC & Drafting CJ Stroud & Will Anderson

Episode Date: May 11, 2023

(2:20) - Hello, Layup Line & NFL News: Micah Parsons New Contract, NFL Schedule Release & Tampering in the NFL (23:21) - Texans Head Coach DeMeco Ryans & General Manager Nick Caserio join Chris & talk CJ Stroud & Will Anderson, Caserio in the New England Front Office under Belichick & DeMeco in San Francisco under Robert Saleh, John Metchie III's Progress, Signing Robert Woods to Houston & Are the Texans Becoming the Alabama Crimson Tide-West? (57:26) - Chris Long Foundation Golf Tournament & GL Softball Recap (1:20:00) - Mailbag! Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long:   Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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call 1-800 next step. In Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, and Virginia, call 1-800 gambler and at Michigan, 1-800-2707117. Tennessee, y'all too, 1-800-9-9-9. Welcome to the Greenlight Podcast. The Houston Texans are taking over Studio J. It is Texan's general manager, Nick Casario, and New Texans head coach, D'emico Rines.

They joined Chris today, talk a little bit about both their past, how D'Amico got into coaching, how Nick went from being an executive in New England and learning under Bill to taking over the ship down in Houston. Miko talks about being a head coach after being a player. We can relate to the guys in the locker room. We hear about some of those draft picks that the Texan just pulled in. Also, we've got Dr. Fax in studio. Chris and Dr. Fax do a little open, talk a little football. And then we end with a big mailbag, a recap of the Chris Long Foundation Golf tournament,

and a big softball win. It was needed. So, y'all please enjoy. Make sure to come out on Friday for our talent search. You'll hear about it in the show. Do yourselves. Frankfurt, Germany. Why Frankfurt?

Because you told me to do Frankfurt. It was a good idea. Matt. Frankfurt, Germany. That's where, how many games are getting played this year in Frankfurt? Two games in Frankfurt. Okay. And it's only been London, really. I mean, Mexico City, London. Have we had a Germany game? No, we did. We had the Bucson-R-R-Readie in Seattle in Munich. And I remember Gino Smith's face was on the water tower and everybody was freaking out because it wasn't Tom Brady. But Gino had a better year. Yeah, Dolphins versus Chiefs, Week 9, Colts versus Patriots, Week 10.

Oh, that's good. That's good stuff. Trying to go to Germany? Have you ever been to Germany? Yes, okay, so this is good. Dynamite segue. You are a fucking pro. So anyways, I was in Frankfurt myself for stem cell late in my career.

And some of you all have heard this story, so bear with me. But Matt was like, oh, you should tell it. I was in Frankfurt for a stem cell, like kind of whole body stem cell, not just for like a knee or for an elbow. Like it's a transfusion. Like steroids? It's not like steroids, bro. And that's the thing about steroids. Is it illegal?

No. Oh, okay. And here's the thing about steroids. Sometimes I wish I did them. Yeah. You know, I was kind of naive. I was looking around the locker room like, man, these guys are just in shape around here. I'm not going to lie.

I got, there were some guys. Like, not too long ago, like probably like four or five months ago, my need that I got surgically repaired was acting up, the arthritis. And I got prescribed some low, dosage, steroids, that it made my knees and my joints feel amazing. Dude, and that's the thing, like a lot of the things that people take,

and I'm not saying it's rampant because I don't have any numbers on this, but as I got, as I transitioned and retired, I started hearing stories from like other people, and nobody's talking about it amongst each other. It's like, you know, if they are, they're probably in some place that I wouldn't invite it. But I worked so hard to, you know,

get in shape every year. I worked out super hard. And I always look like a suburban dad And you know like it would have been cool to not only recover faster But fucking look sick In the process Anyways no I was in Germany For stem cell because I was going to Philly

And I wanted to put my best foot forward And my body was pretty beat up And that's the same famous treatment that Kobe Bryant went to Germany for Yeah but I don't know that I was in the same place that Kobe was Because I would at least seen a picture of Kobe And a guy in a lab coat on the wall So this is this is a very important very expensive procedure, I'm guessing. It is expensive. And I would go in, you know, like,

you know, I went the first time you stay for like two, three days. I went to the second time, I think I went in the middle of the season, like a bi-week, and I landed at like 8 a.m. And I took off at 1 p.m. So I flew all the way to Germany for like four hours to get the, because once they harvest the cells or whatever, and I could be butchering this. So if any of you guys out there, like stem cell specialists, anyways, you know, once they have, you know, once they harvest it, you go back and it's like a quick transfusion. They have it on file, essentially. And it just inject it back. Yeah. And the results of that thing were, hey, I felt pretty good for six weeks, you know, like it takes like a month. So I go before camp. And then it kind of kicks in at the

end of camp. And the difference is your joints feel better. Like it feels like somebody put WD40 in you. And that's what I needed because at the end of my career, like, you know, I can't bend my knees without warming up. I can't, you know, like the day after a game, there's no way. And toward all was the key. And so anyways, I'm there. And when I signed with Philly, it wasn't like they said they weren't going to draft anybody, but they kind of said like, hey, like, you know. So anyways, I'm in Germany and it's draft weekend. And part of the reason I went there was because there was kind of an opening. It was three guys, myself, B.G. and Vinnie Curry. And I thought, like, I can compete in this group. There's no young guy that they have to play. Nothing like that.

I get to Germany. The draft is Saturday night or whatever was Friday. And there's a six-hour time difference. So I go to bed after the treatment. And so in the middle of night, I wake up to take a piss. Not thinking about the draft at all. Thinking about how good I'm going to feel. I'm going to have this career resurgence.

And I wake up to take a leak and I see 103 text messages. And I'm reading them and they're all like, yo, did you see that? Like, what does this mean? You know all that shit. And I'm like, I know exactly what just happened. I don't know who, but I know exactly what just happened. And I stumble over to find the remote control. I turn on the TV and I see Derek Barnett in a fucking Eagles hat.

And they're talking about this dude. And they're like, he broke all Reggie White's records. Like, as soon as I hear the guy broke Reggie White's record in college, like, I'm fucked. And I'm watching him, I can't help but like the kid. Like, I'm like, man, I really like this kid. So I tried to go back to sleep. When I tell you, I rolled around from three to eight. I got up in the morning and I went and spent $10,000 on a watch.

I just I just uh what kind of watch it was a brightling okay it was like a total I pity myself purchase I was like bro I woke up in the morning I was like should I retire should I quit like I'm just this this depth guy buried in Philly and um it actually turned out for for the better because we had a great rotation I love Derek Barnett stories about Frankfurt uh but But yeah, they're going to play football in Frankfurt. So I thought I'd share that story. Did it make you think about Robert Quinn? It did.

I was like, it made me think about the Robert Quinn one was scary, but it was over fast because all I had to do was see he played right end. Yeah, yeah. You know, but I can remember, yeah, and Macon loves this story because he thinks, you know, he loves to see me squirm. Layup line. I'm going to go Blue Ridge Mountain Sky by the Marshall Tucker band. It is Marshall Tucker season, Reed.

We were on the river last Friday, 24. hours at a time came on the old playlist and I was just we were I was looking at that sycamore that you jumped off of yeah yeah it was right about the time I I remember when it was because it was right about the time you just floated for about 30 minutes and I can tell there was some jam just going your hands were behind your head just laying back yeah that was too comfy that's 24 hours at time which which uh you actually helped introduce me to so I think that's one of the best songs I've ever heard as an adult like and I've got that's a river song but it is It is Marshall Tucker season.

So check out Blue Ridge Mountain Sky. Do you guys know why they name the band Marshall Tucker band? No. It refers to a blind piano tuner from Columbia, South Carolina, where they got their start. Oh, shit. Nice. How long did that guy get to, you know, stick around and see their success? He, if Wikipedia is correct, he died January 20th, 2023 at the age of 99.

RIP. He got to see some, yeah, that's cool. imagine the Nate Collins band and you don't play in it you just get to enjoy it you fire yeah so anyways uh okay we have a real treat

today we have Nick Casario and uh and Dimeco Ryan's you know the brains behind the operation in Houston and I've never had a GM and a coach on the show at the same time so we'll see how that goes um you know it's like

a they're like a buddy cop like good cop bad cop you know like i'm going to ask de miko a question next going to be like chris chris you know like i i've never done this before but i'm excited um i also want to shout out the good people at the houston texans in their media relations department omar and my man ever he used to actually got to know him uh when he worked for the raiders so good people in houston appreciate the the two names we get today looking forward to that there's also a tampering going on in the NFL. Okay, you know, like we had Miami,

you know, obviously got docks and picks, although when I told Waylon, who slept in a Miami Dolphins t-shirt last night, that his team, his side team is the Eagles fan. I loved what I saw from him yesterday, by the way. He was at the softball game. He was dribbling to basketball the whole time. Left hand, right hand.

That is exactly what you need. You got to live with that ball. He's going to be good. He's going to be good. It's going to fuck my life up because of the A.U. Yeah. You know, like I'm going to be inside all the time. Oh, no.

Baseball, you're outside. You can smell the grass. Like you're in there. It smells like A. U basketball. Look, green light, A.U. Tour. I can't wait.

We're just going to travel. My God. Oh, my God. He did actually start grittying. I love it. Yeah. I love it. But I was fucking around and doing it too, not to, to be honest there.

Okay, so tampering. You had Miami. But the point is, Whalen didn't care about the, cheating, you know. I mean, if you, like, there's a famous saying, if you ain't cheating, you ain't trying, right? That's true.

But the league doesn't believe that because, you know, the Philly and Gannon thing is, you know, it's a thing now, you know, like, it's happening. And Howie and those guys are like, yeah, sure, we'll take some picks out of this or whatever it is. It's capital. Now,

fourth rounder. Fourth or fifth rounder. It's a pick. Yeah. They all count. And, you know, like, Jim Ursay, who hates the commanders and hates Daniel Snyder, there we align. Also, I think he's a Pink Floyd fan. There we align.

He's a big Crosby Stills Nash young guy. Is he? Yeah. Well, he would have loved Willie because you had Stills and Young up there together. Okay, so you've got this commander's thing, and it's all over Andrew Luck. I don't know if you've heard of this, Nate, but I was doing the golf tournament, so I barely paid attention. I guess the commies had reached out to... Oh, that's why Erse tweeted that.

Andrew Luck. What did Erseye tweet? He tweeted or... Erseye or someone tweeted that if you're trying to get Andrew Luck, something to affect that. You can't do it. Yeah, it sounds like something.

But he was being like, he didn't say directly who it was to. So basically, it's the perfect storm for Jim Urse. Like, doesn't like the commanders. never got anything for Andrew Luck. You know, Andrew Luck retires. You can't trade him. You don't get any compensation for him. You're like, you just let a Hall of Fame talent quarterback

walk out of the building. We get nothing for it. He's finally going to get something for Andrew Luck. I think maybe. You know, and unfortunately for the new owner, he's like, fuck, I didn't do that, but I got to ship you a pick or two. I don't know.

Where are they on that thing? Does it look like it's going to, it's going to, I mean, the language, around the report was that it didn't go anywhere with the commanders and Andrew Luck. Like there was talk about it, but it didn't go anywhere. So like what is it didn't go anywhere mean? Does it mean that like they called him and Andrew wasn't concerned? Or maybe an associate of his because in Ursa's tweet he said if any NFL team attempted to contact Luck or any associate of him,

it would be a clear violation of the league's tampering policy. So maybe he knows who that person is. He definitely does. An associate. Why don't we get Andrew Luck on the show? Bro, he's on my all-time list. Like, if you ask me, like, 10 people that you want on the show, Andrew Luck. I can ask a friend of a friend.

I can ask a friend of a friend. Yeah. I feel like I could too, but I don't think he's, uh, I'm like, oh, really, Nate. I sack the guy. You told me good play. He's such a fucking great guy. Oh, good hit, big boy. I know someone who played college ball with himself.

Oh. I do too. Yeah. But we, I don't think it's happening. Yeah, I don't either. You never know. Man, I respect it. But you never know.

You might throw that, you might throw that out there and they'd be like, oh, Chris Long? Yeah. Let's do it. Well, Andrew Luck. Please come on the show, man. We got a lot of respect for you. And, uh, I don't know. I'd love to have Andrew love at the show.

And for the penalties. I won't ask you about the commanders thing. For the, uh, for the penalties, it could be similar to the Miami for, the Miami penalty from this year where it was a first rounder. Jeez. And a third rounder in 2024. Yeah. With some suspensions.

Goodness gracious. So, Commander said they didn't contact Andrew Luck, his father, Oliver, or his old agent. So it could be like what Matt was saying. It could be an agent. They need to check the mail, like USPS because like Andrew Luck does like snail mail. Maybe they got scammed. Maybe they got scammed.

Who got scammed? Oh, like the commander. Like someone was saying, yo, I'm close with Andrew Look right now and he's still training and he's ready. That's like a whole new thing now. Maybe that was Bursaids double agent. Yo.

Hey, it is. How funny would that be? Teams were like doing sting operations. That would be so, hey, you got to be. For draft capital. Integrity. What you do when no one's looking? Yeah.

NFL tech's tampering seriously as hell. Like losing first round picks, the Knicks tampered their faces off to get Jalen Brunson lost the second rounder. Yeah. Yeah. Like nobody cared. Yeah, and it worked out.

Well, yeah, like, Dan Campbell's like, Dan Campbell's like, gee, oh, somebody from Buffalo has been calling about Barry Sanders. You know, like, it's not okay. We have the rights that guy. Like, you know. Anyways, tampering, not a thing in the NFL. And then lastly, the Micah Parsons bit of news,

I thought was interesting. You guys got to find the tweet, but it was like Micah Parsons and his agent basically announcing that he's been working out to bulk up and go back to D.N. Or go to D.N. So why it's interesting is this. I mean, there is a pretty big delta

between how they pay guys classified as ends and how they pay guys classified as linebackers. It would not shock me if he gets paid like an end anyways. Because like T.J. Watt gets paid like an end. He's not a defensive end. You know, a lot of people ask me, the difference really. You know, well, a defensive end plays in a seven technique. He can slide inside and play in a four eye. He's got to be really expected to set the edge. He's not

dropping in the flat that much. Look at what TJ Watt does. Like he's not like an offball linebacker like Roquan Smith who makes actually the most out all the linebackers. He's a jack of all trades back there who leans heavily towards being a pass rusher. And he's always lined up in a nine. He might sometimes face up with the tight end. But the difference in how these guys get paid is not insignificant. And, you know, top five linebackers average 18.7 million. Top five defensive ends average 25.4 million.

So Michael Parsons is just getting out ahead of this thing. And he's saying, hey, man, I'm a defensive end. You think it has anything to do with, like, maybe like in his contract, like incentives for like all pro? And, like, thinking that I'm better than... I don't know where it's harder to get, you know, an all pro nod.

I'm not sure. Or a pro bowl. He's gonna be a pro bowler if he takes out you know takes a breath on the field Yeah, you know like he's just if he walks out on the field he's a pro bowler and he doesn't have any incentives yet But I think it's just about setting himself up for that next contract Although if I was a Dallas fan I might be a little concerned seeing him wear a number zero Tyrese maxi jersey and and that's and that's the double up on its leverage week for him I love seeing hey Micah Philly is the best city in the world to play it and I wouldn't even that good imagine if Imagine if you were like if you're Micah Parsons in the city of Philadelphia.

Dude. Come to Philly. All would be for you. Did you feel that? Did you feel that feeling when you stepped into, you know, Wells Fargo Center? Did you feel that? You don't feel that in Dallas.

This is tampering. It's not tampering. I'm not. Hey, he's not an unofficial. Micah. Bro. You know how Eagles fans like you should do,

Eagles fans. I know he's a cowboy, but just like, temper your mentions, temper your, you're tweeting at him. This feels taboo right now. Is it taboo? Because I want him to be an eagle one day.

It's just, I don't care, bro. I don't care. I love Michael Parsons playing Philly, and I love the move. Hey, I see what you're doing there, Mike. I'm not going to blow up your spot. Who's he starting over? Well, it's a couple years down the road. No, no, no.

Who's he starting over right now? He's a defensive player of the year candidate. everybody okay I just want to hear you say it I just want to stir it I mean like you know I get it I get it also Philly has exhibited you know like the strategy with them is more pass rushers the better always so

man do always be rushing I loved it I loved it I love seeing it the same week he says I'm a defensive end and then I wear a maxi jersey to the fucking how cool is that to be maxi run out there for pregame I saw them dapp up. You know, everybody. But the reason why is, you know the reason why is supposedly Maxie is from Dallas. Well, after Micah got criticized heavily, he was like, Maxi's from Dallas, y'all.

That's the only reason I'm wearing it. I think this gets interesting because Maxi loves that moment, but maybe not, he doesn't realize he's a chess piece. This is all tampering to me. He's a blonde in the game. It looks like it's tampering to me. He's more of a rook. So if he ends up in Philly, down the road, this is tampering.

Good on you, Micah. Oh, the food? The fucking food is phenomenal, man. Phenomenal. You could take, you and, you and Mike, you and Micah can have a cheese steak together. Hell yeah, because I've never had. I haven't even had the cheesecake in Philly.

I haven't had, well, I've had like one or two now, but I've never gone to a brick and mortar, like kind of legacy cheesecake place in Philly. Cheese steak. Cheese steak, sorry. Cheessteak. Junior's. I had a cheesecake.

I had a cheesecake last night. He did he. He made people walk for his cheesecake. All right. Well, here's Nick Casario and Dimeco Ryans. And then we'll talk about softball and some other BS on the back end. May 12th at noon, we have our talent search. I've been criticized for calling a talent show because we don't know if there's any talent there.

Well, I didn't mean to criticize you. No, I just, I didn't make it up. Yeah, I was more, I think I was crazy like Kingston. Yeah, yeah. No, but my whole thing is like, don't expect anything out of this. Like, you got to be really good. It's going to be a lot of you that I'm going to be like, hey, you're cool. I appreciate you listening to the show.

Don't come here thinking the bar is low. Like, we may hire somebody. We may put somebody in the full. We may bring a fan into the family, but you got to be good. you got to be real good so noon May 12th

at Star Hill in Charlottesville I heard a couple of people that were considering coming from like out of state wouldn't advise you to do that the chances of you being a part of the show out of state it's pretty low

no we'll pay a couple of guys are like yeah I'll move pay their moving expenses yeah okay you got to be good okay I'm pulling for you but we'll have fun no matter what like we get to meet you I mean you know see who you guys are guys and gals okay okay okay okay if you're in Arizona Colorado Indiana Louisiana Michigan New Jersey New York Tennessee or right here in Virginia and you haven't tried the wind bed app yet I have great news for you sign up today to receive

special offers and take advantage of great promos, don't miss out on the fun. Download the WinBet app today. Terms and conditions apply. Must be 21 or older and present in a state where win bet is available. Gambling problem in Arizona, call 1-800. Next step. In Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, and Virginia, call 1-800-270-1-1-7-1-7-1-7. Tennessee. Y'all 2,800-8-9. So this is the first time I was just sharing with these guys offline. The Houston Texans, these guys are all right by me. They give me the head coach and the GM. I got two of the most important guys in the city here, Nick Casario and Domeco Rines.

Coach Domeco Rines. How's that sound, coach? Man, sounds like music to my ears. Headball coach, man. That's awesome. Yeah, one of my favorite players to watch. You know, obviously, Bo Allen works with us. You know, Nick, you've had a hand.

Well, actually, you know Bo a little bit. Yeah, absolutely. You bet. And D'Amico, he used to say that you used to just practically get him lined up. So I was told to pass on a big thank you. I had to, man. To keep slapping him on his butt just to get in the right spot. You can't miss his ass, man.

No, he can. That was an easy target. But yeah, congrats guys on, you know, assembling this whole deal. There's a lot of excitement around Texans right now. I guess I'd start with this, Nick, since you've been doing this. a long time. And I think you probably looked at D'Amico coming out. What was his scouting report as a player? Can you recall it? And how much did that play into you falling in love with this guy and hiring him to do the job? It's funny. You bring all that up. I'm getting old. Like you,

Bo Allen, D'Amico, it's funny. I actually went back because we played Philadelphia a couple, you know, at the end there when DeMico was in Philly, played him in Houston. So I used to write up every player. So I wrote he was tough. He was instinctive. You know, he was a good player for their defense. So again, whether or not those traits translate over from the coaching standpoint, but like he was a damn good player. Did a lot of great things for this organization, you know, when he was here. So, yeah, I've seen a lot of players here through the years going on 20 some odd years. I'm getting old. Yeah, yeah, no quite. And, hey, and, you know, like, I don't mean this negatively, Nick, but like, you know, you had a lot, you saw a lot of guys who went on to be head coaches and some were

successful. Some weren't like that's kind of being in New England. And there were a lot of great coaches in Houston too. I didn't know Sala was there. McDaniels and you were there as a player. Like it was kind of Washington gets all the credit for having that Shanahan tree, but there was a lot of great coaches in Houston. But Nick, with your experience in New England, with seeing who worked out and maybe who didn't work out so much, do you feel like you could kind of reverse engineer and say, I saw these guys as assistants? I know what I'm looking for. And did that help you hire Coach Ryan's? Yeah, look, I think every situation is going to be different. The most important thing for any coach or player, they just got to be who they are and they have to be true to themselves.

And that's the most important thing. You can't re-duplicate like a program, take a program, lift it up and put it into another building. I think you take certain core principles and try to apply them. But people are people. Like, we're in a football business, but we're in a people business. So the person is as important as anything else. And I think D'Amico and I, like, the more we got to know one another, again, we didn't know each other really that well.

We knew of each other. But the more time we've spent around each other, I'd say we have a lot of similarities philosophically and we believe in a lot of same things. And really, I look at my role as a supporting role to try to support D'Amico and the staff and try to provide him all the tools and resources that he needs because in the end, we're only going to be as good as everybody that's in the building. Like D'Amico has talked about this and I think we share this same belief. It's about the team.

It's not about one person. it's not about one player. And what we have to do, what I have to do is, you know, when I came into this situation, is some of it you have to adjust and modify as you go, right? And you take some of the things that are core to what you believe, see if you can apply them. But then you have to adapt and adjust to the circumstance.

And I think that's what we're going to try to do. Coach, what's it like, you know, putting that shirt on and being the headball coach at the place that drafted you and you played so many years. I know you've been asked, but as a player, I can't imagine it. How did it feel when they close? is that deal? You know, it's, it's an honor, right? First and foremost, right? You know, it's only 32 head coaches in this league and it's guys that have worked their butts off a lot, right, to be in those positions, to be over a team and to have that huge responsibility. So

it's an honor, but I also understand the pressure, the responsibility that comes with that because a lot of people are counting on me, right, to do a great job, to help this organization win. And doing it here at a team that I played for. It just means more to me, right? Got skin in the game here. It's not just another job. Like, it's a place that I truly care about. I care about the city of Houston.

I care about us producing a winner here in Houston because I know how hungry the fans are here to have that winner. And they deserve it. So I just want to be a part, right? I'm one part of a small part in the equation of all, as Nick talked about, working together, to provide that winning organization for the city of Houston. And, you know, being a former player, we just had Dan Campbell on last week,

and I asked him this because I do think being a former player, you have certain edges, you know, over some other coaches. And then maybe some things that being a former player can get you in trouble sometimes because you revert back to that player mentality. As a coach in your time as an assistant and, you know, in leading that defense in San Francisco, have you learned, like, certain areas that,

hey, maybe I have to tailor that, taper that down a little bit, you know, the former player, and there are situations where you feel like it's very beneficial to you. What are those situations? Yeah, I would say first in situations where I've learned where I had to kind of tone it down where I may have been like too aggressive with with guys, especially in New Age guys. I probably came off a little too hard, a little too aggressive.

And a lot of guys will probably tell you they didn't like me as a coach, you know, to start out because I was so hard on those guys. So I had to learn, right, a real balance. And that's what I think I've grown as a coach, learn that balance of how to deal with the younger, younger generation and younger guys how to deal with them, right? More encouragement, more positive, more upbeat with these guys. And I say, you know, it has helped me from a standpoint of just,

as you know as well, Chris, we know what players go through not only on the field, but it's the off-the-field things, right? That some guys, if you haven't been in the shoes, you don't understand all of the way the world pulls on you, right? The outside world pulls on you as a player. And you have a lot of things going on off the field. And sometimes we're just so focused about the ball, the ball, the ball. Right.

That's helped me to truly, right, dedicate myself to developing the entire man and not just a football player. Coach Sala, man, you know, you guys seem to have a great relationship. Obviously, he's a great ball coach. And he's gotten, you know, some time under his belt as a head football coach, which is obviously very different than coordinating and being an assistant coach. Have you leaned on him and what advice has he given you that might be valuable? And at what point does he not give you advice anymore?

Yeah, I lean on Sala a lot, man, saying being a defensive head coach is first and foremost, there's not many defensive head coaches in the league. So lean on him from that perspective. But also the biggest advice Sala told me, kind of what Nick alluded to as well is, hey, man, do it your way and just be yourself. Right, you be yourself. That's what's guiding you to this point. You don't have to change and try to be someone else.

Just be yourself and you're going to do just fine. So that's the best advice I've received from now. So this is an important one because I can remember when, you know, I had so many coaches in St. Louis. It was like, I think I had like four head coaches in eight years. And you've been through some changes. The first meeting, you always find out what are the buttons you don't want to push with the head ball coach.

Jeff Fisher had rules like, hey, no cutoff shirts in the cafeteria. I know Bill had, you know, some rules. And Bill was real chilling a lot of stuff I didn't expect to be chilling. That's the thing people don't realize about Bill. He's pretty cool in some ways. How do you piss Coach Ryan's off? Like when you get in that first meeting, like what are your things, dude? Because I know you got things.

My biggest thing, man, is just the number one rule is just protecting the team. And that involves all aspects of just being a good teammate, right? not doing anything stupid to embarrass yourself, your family, or embarrass the team, right? And the second one is just be on time. Like, it's just, it makes sure to me when guys are not on time, it just shows just a lack of, is this important to you or not, right? We got limited time in the days that we have, especially now, our times are restricted. We got certain hours we can work.

So just be on time, man, to show up and be a great teammate. and I'm pretty cool on a lot of other things as well. I just want to make sure it's important to the guy. So here's the here's one because when I got in New England, I was shocked by this because, you know, I had always sat in coach on the way to games. And I always like, man, this is ass backwards. I get the coaches sitting up there.

I know they work hard, but my body is killing me. I'm in a coach seat cram next to Lane Johnson or something. You know, and I get to New England. And the greatest head football coach of all time is sitting in coach with the rest of the staff. And I'm wondering, are you going to have some of the vets in first class? Are you going to make them earn their first class seats? Where do we land on this, coach? Man, I'm back and forth, man.

Hey, coaches need their rest too, man, but a lot of work. You do. Yeah, you do. You sit up there. Oh, yeah. I've seen it, man. Being on a few teams, I've seen it done a couple of different ways with, Chip Kelly. That's how he did it, you know, Philly, where the vet said in first class,

coaches said in the back. So I think, I may be leaning towards that way. Yeah, did I get the first non-answer of his career? Hard-hitting shit right here. I love it. See, he's learning, Chris. He's learning what happened. He is. He is. He is. Like, some of these vets on your team were going to be like, man, I saw you on the pod. All right. So, guys, the schedule comes out this week. As a player, I used to look at a whole bunch of stuff. I used to look at how many games on grass do we have? How many night games do we have? Well, it's St. Louis, not a lot. You know, New England, I'm going to be playing late at night every week. You know, hey, what divisions are we playing? What quarterbacks are we playing? Who are the tackles? How many Thursday night games do we have? How do you guys look at it? And what's the

first thing you look for? Obviously, all opponents are dangerous. But like, when it comes to the flow of the schedule, what are the keys to you guys? I think the first key for me is we're, how are we starting off. Like, where are we at home? Are we away to start off this? You know, that's the first thing I always look at. And then I'm looking for primetime game. Hey, make sure the Texans get some primetime games. We're ready to roll. And then, you know, it's that Thursday night. Where is that Thursday night game and where is that by week, right? That's where I think is very important that by week to see, are we at, you know, I like it when that by week is sort of in the middle of the season. Sometimes we've had it one year where we were, it was like,

the fifth week of the season. So I knew we would have a long stretch there. So by week is very important for me. And really, the division is going to be important, right? You know, you're going to play your division opponents. So if you want to make any sort of progress as a football team, it always starts to the division, right? So the disbursement of our opponents in the division, look, we know we're going to play them twice. So that's going to be an important part of it. And, you know, like DeMiko said, like once the schedule comes out, we kind of see where we're situated. And then really, you know, start to look at it in sort of quadrants, right? Kind of that break the season up in the quarters, you know, the first four,

and then kind of as it goes throughout. And then as a year it goes on, like, what are some of the things that we need to do to modify and make adjustments just to maximize what we're doing as a football team on all levels? So, I mean, it's always exciting. You know, at least you have some clarity. Like, we know who the opponents are as we sit here today. We just don't know how it's going to be organized. So, I mean, that's for you guys to talk about it on your show, you know, tomorrow.

We're going to break it down, yeah. Yeah, you all circled. Nick, did you kind of have to not relearn how to draft? Because, I mean, you know, like obviously you have so much experience, but it is different picking at the top, right? I mean, like, there's different variables that first day. And you all weren't used to picking that high. And now you're in Houston and you're building something.

So naturally you're going to be picking a little bit higher. Was there an adjustment process for you? Yeah, there's always different variables. I mean, the first year we were here. We didn't have a first or second round pick. So there was 65, 70 players that were just, going to go by the wayside. Last year, we were a little bit, you know, better position. This year we had a little bit more flexibility and ammunition. It's funny. I was actually looking back

2008, you know, when you came out, you know, you were, you know, got picked number two overall. That was one of the years. We actually had the seventh overall pick. Slide would have been nice. Slide would have been nice. Yeah. It was nice to slide. So we had seven and then, you know, it's telling Domeco this morning, like, we made like the, you know, secret workout trip out to Charlottesville. work you out the week of the draft. Yeah, we grow. So we did that. I mean, Macroo picks us up at the airport. So it's kind of funny. But then when you pick high in the draft, it's going to just open you up to more players that are available, right? If you're picking a little bit later,

you know, there's more than likely going to be 15 to 20 that, all right, you're going to evaluate everybody, but just realistically having the opportunity to get those players. So I'd say we've been positioned over the last two years, kind of the same two, three, 13, 14, somewhere in that range. So it just gives you a little bit more flexibility. in optionality relative to the pool of players that might be available. And how early in the process, because he's my personal favorite out of all the guys, Straub, how early in the process did you guys fall in love with him? And how did he separate?

What was it about him that allowed him to separate? Well, it's interesting. So you kind of go through the fall process, right? Our scouts went through the fall process. So we grade the players. So in December, January, you know, then when we kind of had the coaching transition. So with the Miko and the staff arrived in February, all right, we wanted to say, all right, let's kind of recalibrate. Let's give the staff an opportunity to watch the players evaluate the players and kind

arrive at an end point. So there was a little bit of lag time that was involved. But, you know, CJ was a player that I think we had graded fairly consistent through throughout the fall process. And really from call it February, March, April, that's really the opportunity that you have to maximize the opportunity, the ability to get to really know a player, right? You can watch a player, what he's doing. You can get information from the school, what they're telling you. But until you actually have a one-on-one interaction and you sort of get a sense and a feel for who the person is. Like, that's hard to do, right? So as we went through the process, we talked to CJ at the combine, sort of a quick, and that combine, really, it's a quick 15, 20-minute intro. You're not making a

decision based off of that. I mean, if you are, you're kind of ignorant. But it's kind of a starting point with the underclassman. That's really the first touch point. So combine, all right, then we knew we were probably going to bring, you know, a group of players in for 30-man visits. We started those in March. CJ came through the door, had a good visit. And we kind of try to simulate the day, the best of our ability from start to finish. Here's who you're going to interact with.

Here's who you're going to be involved on a day to day. And you get different perspectives from literally each area of the football operation at the end of the day, say, all right, what did we all think? Because you're looking for a consistency across the board. So the more we kind of dove deep, you know, the more we spent time with him, like we were comfortable, we liked the player, and then we put it all together. And again, just his competitiveness, I would say his drive, his leadership starts to really come out of him a little bit when you're around him. Like this guy cares about football. He cares about winning. He wants to be great. And, you know, there's going to be steps along the way that he's going to have to certainly take.

And, you know, we're going to be a big part of that, hopefully, to help him. How much did his performance, you know, against Georgia elevate his status for you guys? because I feel like, you know, you can evaluate people on how they play week in and week out against the Northwesterns of the world, but, you know, there's seven guys on that defense, basically, they're going to play in the NFL. How does that game in the, you know, the upper echelon of the competition that he faced, how much more does that weigh? Yeah, and it's funny, Chris, we talked a lot about that. You know, D'Amico and I talked a lot about that. And sometimes you get so caught up in maybe one game or one exposure, which is important,

but you have to look at the overall arc. I think the one thing that you saw from him and even their team a little bit was improvement from the beginning of the year because they didn't play that well against Notre Dame. No. So they didn't play well against Notre Dame. They won the game. Then they struggled against Oregon and lost the game. So they're kind of in this position like, all right, how is this going to go? And as the year went on, they improved.

And then from the end of the season from the Michigan game until they played Georgia, collectively as a team, they probably had an opportunity to really improve and really spend time on getting ready to play a good team. So you got to be careful. about putting so much in that game. Now, he played well. They played well as a team offensively. They scored however many points they scored. But you have to be careful of using sort of one data point to allow that to just drive your overall decisions. But in the end, you take everything holistically. You try to put it all together and say, all right, this is what we have in the end, and we're comfortable with it, and then we're going to move forward. How do you think, you know, having the one dude, we know who we're talking about Brady for a number of years,

in New England helped you or maybe hurt you because you didn't have to go through this process a lot where you guys had to reset at quarterback. I know you took some guys up high maybe to support or back him up. But, you know, on that side of things. And then also, like, what did you learn from Brady as a young player as you apply some thinking to how you're going to roll C.J. Stroud out and, you know, like how to best maximize his talent early and not burn him out. Yeah, each player is different.

So you have to take the individual and figure out what you feed them and just, kind of look at their arc of development as they go. And, you know, you had the good fortune of being around Tom. And I think from the beginning of his career, like nobody really talks much about this. But in 2000, he was the fourth string quarterback. I wasn't even into wing win. You know, so he was literally the fourth string quarterback. But he would do things on his own, go in a bubble, take the practice squad receivers, go through the script.

So I think you saw the drive and motivation and the work ethic were there. And then when he had the opportunity, you know, one, which is my first year in the NFL, which I didn't know anything about NFL. football is basically like, all right, like trying to figure out like where the field is. He had a good training. Heard was the backup. Tom was the third quarterback. I think Bishop may have been there.

And he earned the job as the backup to Drew. And then when Drew got hurt and kind of the rest is history. But I think the work ethic, the drive, the focus and the motivation and the competitiveness to continually get better is really what separated him probably from other players, not only at his position, but a cross position. So, again, every player is going to be different. There's only one Tom, just like there's only one CJ. But that position, you're looking for certain qualities for that individual to possess.

Understanding it's arguably the hardest position to play in sports, and it's not going to happen overnight. So it's going to take a lot of purposeful work from a lot of people organizationally. But you're looking for certain criteria dynamics. And you say, you know what, there's some elements that, okay, we can sort of build around. But that position, like you almost have to each year just have a lot. an understanding of the players, of the position in its entirety, so you can make a good decision. Because, I mean, realistically, and DeMiko and I have talked about this, you almost need like two quarterbacks on your team. Because inevitably, like, that person is probably going to have to

play. I mean, it's just, that's just the way the league is designed. So one guy might end up playing a lot more. But in 08, like, we went through this. You know, Tom gets hurt the first week. Matt had been in the system castle for three years going on four or whatever it was. and he took advantage of his opportunity, and he went out and played pretty good football. So the team dynamic, the team element is important. And then take the individual and then kind of nurse him along the way and then put him in the best position possible that he can maximize himself.

You know, one of my favorite players to watch Damien Pierce. You know, this guy, you got 250 touches last year. I think he played 13 games or something like that. You know, it's a lot of, he's a workhorse. I mean, you know, and I know you might want to, lean on him to try to, you know, ease whoever it is into a good situation and quarterback. How do you approach having a maybe a special running back on a rookie deal? Do you say, hey, we're going to, he's just going to be a workhorse or, you know, do you spell him?

Do you look to be a little bit more running back by committee because you have something special and you want him to last the entirety of that first contract and maybe beyond? Yeah, I think it all starts, Chris, with the offensive line, right? And those guys, you know, being dominant, as dominant as they can be up front, right, allowing us to run the ball. And you want to run it like by committee. You don't want to wear one guy out and just run him in the ground. If we can run it by committee, right, and have some help for Damien. We know Damien is a great player, physical, tough player.

We want to rely on him, but also we want to spell him to where we can, you know, keep him healthy and have him the entire year. So having a few guys who can, who can tote the rock, that would be awesome for us. And then obviously the big splash is Will Anderson. You know, Bama guy, no shock here. You know, in New England, by the way, you all drafted a lot of Bama players. I don't know if it's going to be Bama West in Houston. But, you know, like you guys move up to get this kid. It puts a, yeah, I've been a high pick as a defensive lineman.

It's a lot of pressure. You know, the number's got to be there. And sometimes that doesn't tell the whole story. And there might be growing pains. and, you know, you played, I think you were the same draft class as Mario, right? Yeah. Yeah, and Mario, I don't think gets enough credit for the great career that he had. I mean, look at his numbers.

I mean, he was unbelievable. I think he had five double-digit years. He was up around 100 sacks. Great player. But you saw the pressure, I'm sure, and kind of how that might affect that his development positively or negatively. How would you, you know, how would you handle that part of this situation with Will? Because he's going to be under a lot of pressure.

Yeah, that was the first thing I think talking with Will when I met with them in a 30 visit, whether it was with us or with another team, I just told like, hey, man, there is no pressure, right? Don't get caught up in what the outside world tells you about this pressure and you have to have a certain number of sacks and like get that out of your mind. The only thing you need to focus on is just perfecting your craft and improving and getting better every day. Right. If you do that and you're a good teammate, you help your team. There should be others around you. It's not just going to be about one person. And that's the same for Will. It's not about just him, but surrounding him with other guys around him. Like the best D-lines have multiple guys who can get after the quarterback and rush together.

That's what makes the D-Line. D-Line is successful. You can't just go out there and do it on your own. So I told him from the jump, like there is no pressure. Just come in, be who you be who you've been at B. Bama, right? Everyone there has spoken well about will, right? The leader that he is, the type of work ethic that he has, like just continue to be that guy and he'll do well in the league. Yeah. And, you know, like the necessity of building with a lot of picks versus the necessity of trying to land a transformational player, how much was that talked about with you guys? Because, you know, you are in a building stage and, you know, you gave up a lot to get this one guy,

could have had some more picks. Like, how did that? How did that? that conversation going, what was the timeline of making this trade? Yeah, I mean, look, we talk about everything and, you know, draft picks, I think what they enable you to do, Chris, just give you some flexibility. And we talked about this before and it gives you some optionality. So, like, if you have a conviction about a player or groups of players and you feel that that's the right decision to make for your organization, then if there's conviction, then you go ahead and pull the trigger.

And like DeMiko said, not get caught up in some of the external noise about, well, it was this or that. like if you think that's the right thing to do for your football team, then that's what we're going to go ahead and do. So I think like philosophically, we believe in that wholeheartedly. So, you know, it's all about what you do with the picks. So everybody can talk about picks and accumulating capital and using those or pushing them out or did you give up too much on a trade chart. Like, let's not like allow data to drive decisions. Like let's make a good football decision, make a sound decision for the organization.

If we feel if that's a right thing to do, then let's not. let's go ahead and do it and then move to the next thing. So again, this is just a series of transaction. It doesn't mean that we're going to be done building a team. There are going to be other opportunities, whether it's this year or future years to continue to build. And the bottom line is we're trying to put together the best football team possible for the 2023 season, focused on this year, try to play good football,

and then we'll worry about 24 and 24. But I think ownership was supportive of our decision. So we went ahead and made the decision that we felt was best for us. And that's why Will and C.J. both here. And then talk about, you know, bringing in a Robert Woods. You know, I love his game. Everybody that I play with to play with him says he's just an absolute dog and a leader. How important is that to have that kind of good team player to bring a young quarterback along? Yeah, I mean, Robert and played against him a few times there being in San Fran. He's with the Rams.

That was the guy that I felt like helped the Rams offense that separate themselves. Like such a smart player. He's tough. He doesn't mind doing a dirty work blocking. And you can just see the leader that he was. When they lost him, you can see a difference in their offense. So I'm excited to add Robert, a veteran guy who can show our young receivers, right, in our young offense, just show them the way he's been there. He's been successful. He's a guy that guys can lean on, right? So whether it's a quarterback, whether there's other young receivers, running backs, they can all lean on Robert and his experience to help him out. And, you know, you guys bring in Shaq Mason, who an old teammate of mine in New England and

somebody I respect a lot. I know he has a lot of respect in New England as well. Do you remember Nick when we used to run those hills and Shaq used to win by a nose? That was Bill's favorite thing to say. Do you remember that? He always kind of leaned towards those offensive lines. Actually, just interesting about Shaq. So when he came out, he played a triple option offense. So literally you never saw him pass block. So he went to the senior bowl, had a decent senior bowl.

And I would say this is a player like Dante worked out. And he had a lot of conviction on. And you've been around Dante and kind of seen like, I mean, arguably one of the best offensive line coaches in football, like hands down. But the way he was able to train and teach Shaq and Shaq embrace that. And, you know, Shaq was a good player for a number of years. For somebody that, quite frankly, he was too small. He was too short.

He lacked length. but he was strong, he's tough, he's powerful, he's explosive, and he can run, and he liked running those hills. He loved to run the hills, man. Yes, because those are the Lohama men don't have to move that much in practice. That's why they win. So, you know, you draft, you know, Metchy, you know he's hurt. You know you might not have him for a little bit. I know Detroit drafted Jameson Williams with kind of the same deal. What goes into making that decision? I know you weren't there coach for that, but like Nick, you know, when you're, when you draft a guy like that, what goes into saying, hey, you know, maybe we're not going to have him much the first year,

but is he that transformational and special that we can wait around? Yeah, no, we like John as a football player coming out. He did a lot of good things. That was a good offense. I mean, you know, Jameson, Bryce, you know, John was a part of that. So anytime you go in the draft evaluation process, if you have a medical situation, you kind of take that information to say, all right, at some point, he's probably going to be available to participate in some capacity. So we had an inkling that at some point he was going to be available.

And then he had a deal with the other setback medically that was sort of unforeseen. I would say it was a situation where a medical staff did an unbelievable job. It kind of happened in the June sort of window where you're out of the facility and everybody's kind of on their own for the summer. So it was a setback. But, I mean, John handled it as well as he possibly could have. He's made significant progress on that front as it pertain. to cancer in his situation. I would say he's kind of continued to work himself back in from a football standpoint.

And, you know, D'Amico and I have talked about this for the spring. The most important thing is for our players to just be ready to go for training camp. So whatever their situation or program is, but I'd say John was very tough-minded, very competitive, very driven, love football, and he had a certain skill set that we thought there were some things that were appealing, which is why we went ahead and drafted him when we did. one quick hitter for both y'all and let you go thank you so much for your time uh coach ryan's you know you wore the uniform for a long time i know you look good you play you play good the whole deal nick you i mean you might know how that feels but you know as a as a guy in it's a little bit

i know he did he was good i know he's good but but you know when you got to wear you know you sign with a team and maybe you don't like the uniform so much and you got to wear it for eight 10 years i know houston uniform might change next year um you know Do you have any say in that, coach, because you did wear the uniform and is your voice going to be heard? I don't know, man. I got to make sure I talk with ownership to see if I can get a say in it. He has enough pull, Chris. Okay, good.

All right. He has enough pull. Good. All great. We'll be nice for us, though. Yeah, you know, a little freshen up. And then for you, Nick, you know, Brian Dable, love the guy, ends up in New York. He's doing a great job.

And my question for you was, was he a cigar smoker in New England? or is this a big, is this an act? I think he's turned over a new leaf relative to cigars smoking. I don't know if he smoked that many cigars when he was in New England, but I love Dave. Dave's, a guy's guy, man. Dave's, Dave's is a ball coach. He's very smart. And, you know, credit to him and Joe for what they're doing up there, what they're kind

of building. So hopefully that's a good template, something that, you know, we can follow and build our own, put our own stamp on it down here in Houston. Awesome, man. Well, I wish y'all, too, the best of luck this year. We'll be watching the Texans and pulling for y'all. So congrats coach and Nick, good to see you. Thanks, Chris.

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the Water Boys Charity Challenge. Man, it's a whole year away, but you should be there next year, you know? You should be there. Sign up for a golf force and it costs a bunch of money. And we had a great time. It was awesome. We'll talk about that.

We'll talk about softball and then maybe read with a couple mailbags. But, hey, first things first, raise a bunch of money, had some great guys come in. I'm talking about guys that played against, guys that have played against, guys that I play with. I extended an olive branch to Sean Glennon and to Eddie Royal. Two Hokies. Beed us four times in college.

You really used to follow us around. People used to go to the bar and run in, you know, anytime you meet a Virginia Tech guy, own four, that sort of thing. We have feelings, man. You know, eventually it gets kind of old. But I called those guys and actually it started with Sean because Sean listens to the pod.

Sean's a bopper. Sean's a bopper. Sean's a Sean. Yeah. And so we got to know each other a little bit over the years, playing against each other and that sort of thing. And Eddie, the last time I saw Eddie in person was at a Young Buck concert in Blacksburg, Virginia.

I drove three hours to go see Young Buck. Wow. The G-unit days. I think this was like maybe freshman or sophomore year when I was in Charlott'sville at Virginia. And so it was great to see those guys. Jordan Cornett, basketball player from Notre Dame, now at ACC Network, does a great job. Speaking of the ACC Network, I mean, Eddie Royals great. E.J. Manuel came down.

He's great. Isn't he awesome? Yeah. He's 2.45, dude. He's surprisingly big, though. He's diesel, bro. I asked him, I was like, what are you weighing now? Looks like a basketball player.

Yeah, well, fuck. Be a tough guy to get down in the pocket. So, you know, EJ was there. A whole bunch of players, you know, John Phillips, Ligarra Blunt, Brent Selig, A.J. Feeley, great to see those guys. Johnny Hecker. Johnny Hecker. What life is better than being the highest paid punter in the league and going to celebrity golf tournaments on the summer? Yeah, and living in Charlotte where, like, you know, it's a great city, really livable.

He's got a Super Bowl ring. He's got a beautiful family. And he lives in the heart of golf tournament country. So, like, and he's pretty good. So Andy wore. One of the only few places that have direct flights to Charlotte's film. Exactly. Exactly. So yeah,

Johnny fucked up and he fucked up by showing us how easy it was to get up for this thing. He's going to be invited to everything now. And he had, for the practice round, he came, you know, trim, prit and prop. Prim and proper. There you go. Thank you. Really good looking golf attire. You have a poplin on? He did.

Okay. And then he rolled with like a green baseball jersey. the actual tournament. Yeah. It said bogey boys on the bowie boys. I don't know. He's still cool. He's still playing in the NFL.

He's still got cool clothes. We also had Jordan Babineau. Jordan Babineau. He was a blast. Seahawk. Awesome guy. Brother played in Atlanta. Defensive lineman.

So, yeah, anyways, like a lot of great players. Heath Miller was there. The gal from home improvement was there. Debbie Dunning. Debbie Dunning. Shout out. Yeah, we did it. We did a little TikTok video.

Dude, we got to post. She's going to blow our TikTok up. I hope so. She's got great. energy. Yeah, she was, she was funny to. And I didn't watch home improvement growing up. You know that? Oh, you missed out. Oh, really? Yeah. You should go back and watch that. We did a thing on here where we basically quizzed me on 90s TV shows. Yeah. And I missed like the whole thing. There was a show within the show. So there was a show called Tool Time, Tool Time, which in Home Improvement. That's what it is.

She was like the host of Tool Time. No way. Yeah. Okay. She replaced Pam Anderson. So Pam Anderson got huge as the girl on Tool Time. And then when she left, Debbie Dunning replaced her. Oh, so Debbie was great. And yeah, so shout out to the sponsors. They were awesome. Ben Garland was there, former Falcon, Niner. Bronco, yeah, he was Bronco too, Reid. Your guy, he's a total stud. Nate Boyer, the guy started conquering Killy Whip, Green Beret, NFL player. And he flew right to a speaking engagement. He's the man, dude. This morning, Monday, or Wednesday morning at night. He's like, he's, he, if he was six, five, I'd have a man crush on him. He's, he, he's, you know, he said the funniest shit to Meg.

He was like, uh, he's him and Meg know each other pretty well. He was like, you look great. When's the due day? And she's like July 7th. And he was like, man, it looks like could be May 7th. I was like, she wasn't pissed, but she was like, you got to hear what Nate said. She told me that afterwards. And she was like, after he said that, she was like, okay, fuck off.

Did I say it's a girl on the pod? Yeah, yeah. I'm a girl dad. Yeah, when it was. Well, I guess I can say, I know what you mean. Yeah. Because I guess I haven't said that on the pod. I am also expecting my first child in September.

And it is also going to be a girl. I'm so happy. I'm so excited. I'm so excited. It's unbelievable. Oh, man. Just like softball. It's like, you know, it's just, hey, just a couple swings and then you're all pro.

All pro. You're going to be great. Oh, my God, dude. That's great. Congrats. Congrats, Dr. Fax. Appreciate it, man. Yeah.

If she could play any pro sport, what do you want her to play? This is a sports podcast. If it was a medical podcast, like, you wanted her being an oncologist. But let's be honest. Yeah. Golf. Really? Best sponsors.

you would definitely be one of those golf dad you would be one of those personality dads the ones that like you know like you'd be a benevolent lonso ball or uh what's his name team or aunt yeah you'd be Levar ball you but it would be great Levar ball I love it I love as your daughter's going out for her round you'd be like all right here's your bag here's your

oh you don't forget your mic I got you put your mic on yeah with the mic on all right and uh and hold this uh this thing up because you gotta get the sponsors right no but i think golf would uh the live tour is meeting with nate collins today and i'm not i'm not gonna lie after being in this softball league i think i wouldn't i wouldn't mind being a softball dad no shit yeah i think i think i think i could tolerate being a softball dad i think that would be the best dad sport sport to be a dad you sport to contribute as a dad yeah Softball. Like softball.

Just be a softball dad. It'd be sick. Yeah. Basketball is just like, it's, I feel like basketball appearance because I play basketball, basketball parents aren't predictable. Yeah. And like it's just like walking into different gyms with a bunch of families that are there rooting for kids and just not knowing, like, it could get real hostile.

It's a little cramped. It's inside. Some people just lose their tempers a little bit. Hot gyms. Yeah. I don't know. I'd like to be an Olympic. dad because you only have to go to the games every four years you know because I can already tell

with this baseball stuff I know I'm deadpanning this I love going to my kids games but I also know like kiss your weekends goodbye oh these baseball games these t-ball games like they stack them up we had a skills challenge last week three and a half hours long then wonderful then what if one of them becomes um good enough to get on one of the like the little league world Siri teams well that be cool. I met a guy from, where is it? Williamsport. Williamsport last week. Yeah. And he was painting a beautiful picture of that. The traveling. We should go to Williamsport.

It would be fun. And bet the teams. Yes. Oh my God. Start a book in Williamsport. It's definitely probably already been done. All right. Well, Kyle's team was close to going to Williamsport one year. They got beat by a bunch of guys from Vienna. One of the guys had a mustache. All right.

Did he stack that team too Like he stacked his golf tournament? No, he could that's the difference He couldn't be the GM Team the one of the tournament was Kyle Kyle's team Kyle goes out And gets the guy that has the tour record

Or the club record Right He's got this other guy named Bubba Who Who reminds me the guy from varsity blues Yeah big cat from varsity blues And this guy's scratch golfer His boy Mickey

Who's you know from Charlottesville Charlottesville boy he's a scratch golfer so would they shoot 17 under i believe 18 18 under yeah next closest foursome was 13 under crazy so Kyle those guys dominated and also they had a rig team yeah they had kind of a rig team you want they want a guitar man you know it's not like they hey any park golfers out there for next year let's get a team together yeah to take down Kyle and and where do you fit into the equation. Are you going to be on this team? My name will be on the slip. Yeah, okay. All right. So yeah, it was, it was great, man. And the coolest moment for me was, because I don't golf, I make it perfectly clear when I give my speech up there.

And we went to Dirty Nellie's Monday night and hung out to one in the morning. And then we had to get up early in golf. And before we golf, there's, and I don't golf, like I just ride around. But before we took the field of play there. Shotguns start read. You know, they had the, the putting contest. It's a long putt, like 100 feet. About, yeah, yeah. It looked like 300.

So everybody gets up there, everybody's crowded around, people are cheering. This gal gets like a foot and a half from the pen. Everybody else is spraying like five, six, seven feet. Some guys are hit because there was a tough break. I get up there. and I put it like two feet from the pen. It was one of the happiest moments of my athletic career, honestly.

Could you see that on my face? Oh, yeah. Did you win? No, I lost to this gal. Okay. But I was second place. And the place was going crazy, and I felt really good about it. Speaking of the second place, didn't read, didn't you get high in the part three?

Yeah, yeah. There was a college golfer who won. He shot 300 in the part three contests. My buddy won the Lexus. Tom Sannie, my college roommate who played with the Colts, won the Lexus. He hit the pin on what was a losing track of days, the first day. And he's not a state resident, so he couldn't win the car.

Oh. That sucks. Isn't it? Yeah. But good for you is being the host of the tournament to come in second. That's the best. You know, you have a showing for yourself. You're up there, but also something else.

Exactly. Which is what I was doing. And then the coolest thing, I kind of felt like the most interesting man in the world. Because like in the morning, hit a big golf putt, everybody's cheering. And then I get my first dinger in the Pia with the softball. I got the video. Dude, we were on fire yesterday. We were on fire.

If we hit like that, we can beat anybody. We can beat anybody. The other team could score two. They came close. It was final 2116. They're working on 20. They do the install on like all the, electronics of my house.

Yep. And right now, Ben, who's a buddy of mine who runs it, I'm not serious, but we're going back and forth on some bills and, you know, like there's some change orders. And, you know, Meg was like, hey, make sure you take it to those guys. So, uh, you did, Kyle also had his first home run, put it right. Kyle had a first thinger. And Nate went opo, which is crazy to go opo and hit a homer. And, uh, JP hit the fucking sycamore trees.

Yeah. When that ball was, as that ball was coming halfway, you know, as it at its apex coming into JP, Jeff, who was coaching, just goes, goodbye. Yeah. Pop. It's that predictable with him. It's great. I love having Jeff there because it reminds me of being kids when he was at all your games too.

Yeah. Yeah. Jeff's been with us since the inception. I used to ride in Jeff's Chrysler, Woody van, all the way to Cove Creek every day. All summer. 30 minutes there, 30 minutes back. You know, he was an all-time baseball dad. I am enjoying softball so much.

You're so good. You are good. Hey, improvement, too, because last week. I caught that ball. Yep. And Chris made fun of me about. And listen, since I made fun of you, the ball has been beating me up, bro. Like, I take full responsibility.

Like, this is not a thing where you guys are all in the dugout, like, do we say anything? I know it's his softball team. Like, I have had a hard two games at second. And, you know, I will say this. But if you hit Diggins, it doesn't matter. No, I know. And there was a ton of errors out there last night. I wasn't alone.

But, you know, I had this first baseman. Like, I lost it like a month ago. And it's been hard since that point, man. I need to find my mitt. A poor worksman blames his tool. Yeah, I am a poor worksman. I will say, though, you probably see the most action of any infirm. I see a lot of action.

I see a lot of action. I see a lot of action. I'd be laughing and I'd be saying, Chris is coming to you. And it does a lot. And I do think the other team knows, like after I botch a ground ball, they're like, oh, let's go opo.

You know, so anyways. Everything's better after a win. Yeah, yeah. After the loss last week, immediately after Kyle was like, we need a new fucking second basement. Kyle squared up on a ground ball yesterday and let a guy was 270,

beat him to first base. You know? He was not happy after that. I saw his head. He was like... And that other dude... And how's Kyle gonna talk about the second baseman?

He's going to Italy for the rest of the season. We play ceramic tile this week. Those guys are like the fucking Bronx bombers, man. Yeah, they're undefeated. I think they've 10 run to every single team. And what do we got?

We got one of our highest paid employees here. Yeah. He goes to fucking Italy. Bonjourno, Kyle. We never played his team yet? Uh-uh. Yeah, yeah, first game. And it's been circled.

Rob and I have a buddy on that team. What field? It'll be on the first field. So same one. Same one. Yeah, yeah. So what? So what?

We don't want to hear about that. We're going to get them out of the paint too. Okay. Let's take it easy. We don't want to piss ceramic tile. No, we do want to piss them off. Let's maybe give them a little business this this week. You know, like if we need some tile work done, let's give them a call.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We schedule it for next Tuesday. Let's give them a really big job, too. Yeah, and it might run a little long. You got a tile like, you know, an entire building on Tuesday. Actually, that's a million-dollar job right now. Should we schedule? Should we schedule for a job?

What do we need tiled here Tuesday? Let's just, let's ask about the roof. Can we get the roof? Can they do the whole? Can we get a meeting next week in 845 at night? We can get the bathroom retiled. Yeah. Yeah.

Ornate? Yep. Make a call. Yeah, yeah, we got to make a call. Okay, and then the coolest part about the softball game was LaGarrett, who is hilarious, bro, like was not into the golf, not a golf guy, didn't see much of him during the golf. You know, one point my E.D. Nancy walks up as like, I think LaGert's here for the softball. Like, because he was so hyped. I told him Monday, and I was like, come play softball with us.

He's hanging around for like a day and a half. So me and LG, by the way, it's so good to see your teammate like me and le garret we were explaining it to my kids because we were watching the six years game in my house last night and uh it was cool moment because like we don't talk about a lot but my kids were like wait so you were in new england and then in philly like have there ever been players that did that and actually like no no two teammates have ever won back to back in two different places and one of like five guys to to win back to me yeah well yeah the script yeah the script But it was like, it was cool. It was like, we've done a lot together in a short span of time.

We got really close. And so it was cool to have LG in and to have him play softball, get a base hit right off the bat. He looks just like he looks on the football field. Like, you know, Kyle, we get used to how big he is. You know, I don't look that fucking physically imposing. LaGarrett is a 250-pound running back dude. And when he got in a pickle between first and second, he hit it off the fence. was my fault I sent him.

Yeah, bad call. Or he has to hustle, you know, honestly. He did take his time. That's not your fault. Yeah. He's watching the ball. We all thought it was going out. But he ends up in a pickle, and I'm thinking to myself, like, these guys woke up this

morning and had, you know, a softball game, and they got Lageret Blunt and a pickle. And he looked just like he looked on the field, high stepping around, and, you know, he shook the first base when they called him out because he was off the baseline. But the crazy spin move. Yeah, it was crazy. It looked just like you looked on the field. And all due respect to that first baseman, I mean, it's not many times. You have to go up against a former NFL running back.

But Ligerid did the spin move, and the first baseman just kept running straight with this glove out just straight. Yeah, he didn't even see him. He didn't even see him. So, you know, LG borrowed some cleats, borrowed a glove. It just went out there and raked. And it was cool, man. It was cool to see him out there. No, it was cool.

It was cool to see both of you out there. First of all, it was cool. me finally getting to meet him after being around you at several events and places and people mistaken me for LG. All the time, dude. And avid Pat's fans, avid birds fans. But the best thing about the other night was at the event, I had about four people come up to me and take pictures with me and be like, thank you, Laguerre, after.

while I'm wearing a name tag that says Nate Collins. But the best part about it is seeing LaGarrett actually walk in to the party about 40 minutes after me taking like a few of these pictures with people. And now I'm just wondering if anyone that was at the party that took a picture with LaGarrett Blunt, please tag me. I know, I'm Instagram, but the best thing about me and LaGarrett and telling him that I get mistaken as him, he gave me the okay that if anyone offers me money for pictures or memorabilia signing, that he is okay with me doing it because if they say they're true fans and they don't know what I really look like,

then that's on them. Yeah, and also you got a party favor because of LaGarrett. I did. I did. someone came over and offered me and Matt and Brian some pre-rolls and smoked with us. And then immediately after we were done, he turns to me and he goes, dude, I got to get a selfie with you, please. And after I took the selfie, after I took the selfie with him, he goes, I appreciate it so much,

Lagarin. And me, Matt and Brian, we laughed so hard. And all I could think was that dude is sending that picture. Also 275. He's sending that picture to the group chat and say, dude, I smoke the blunt with Lagerick Blunt at Chris Long's Foundation. Legerat's got some cannabis stuff coming down the pipe soon. Nice. Yeah.

Yeah. So I told him to come back here, set up shop in Charlottesville. Yeah, no. Like, if he was going to show up, that's one of the things I was going to ask him. He's the man. So we had a lot of fun. We got back on the winning end of things. We have to win them all.

to get in the playoffs. And we intend on doing that. So great music at the event, too. Shout out to all the musicians headed up by Mark Brian from Hootie and the Blowfish. Hootie. Hootie. So that was cool. Mark was a great guy.

He was jamming. Ryan Cabrero was there. You know, dude from the spin doctors was there. It was awesome, bro. I was like, man, all the old heads like me loved the music. I mean, everybody loved it. But there were some bands that kind of were cool when we were growing up. So, okay, cool.

Who out bitted me for that pizza oven? You don't want it? Give it to me. You've been on a pizza oven? Yeah. How much money? Don't worry about it. No, the starting bid was...

Well, I have to worry about it. The starting bid was $200, and then... What kind of pizza oven? Was this the world's tiniest pizza oven? It actually looked pretty sick. It was one of the green egg once, right? Yes. You got loose on there?

No. Not to down the items that we had for auction. Don't talk. There's a lot of pizza places you go to in town that serve those small lunchable style. Was it a tiny brick oven? It really was, but it looked dope to me. Yeah, been on that one next year when you come to the event, everybody. And the events for Greenlight don't stop because later this week we have our talent show.

I'm excited for it. I actually have a friend driving from New York down. One more reminder. doesn't mean you get a job okay like we don't know if anybody's gonna get hired just bring your best material your best stuff it'll be fun we want to know Friday 12 to 3

yeah 12 to 3 get drunk star hill downtown location um okay so read you got to try a couple of those mail bags and see if Nate likes any of them would you rather have hot dogs for fingers or marijuana or marinara sweat

oh marijuana Marinera sweat or hot dogs for fingers. I would live in a really cold climate, is what I would do. You can't do hot dogs for fingers. Think of all the things you do with your fingers. Think about like foreplay. Right. Think about, think about, think about,

caressing your wife's face. Think about, you know, like fapin. I'm not going to lie. Think about trying to punch in the code at the gas station. These bad boys aren't too. different from hot dogs. No, but they actually look like Oscar Meyer and they don't bend. But who says, who says if you have hot dog his fingers that they won't bend? Do hot dogs bend? Yeah, of course they do. They break. No. Your fingers would break. If you,

a thought out hot dog should been, a good one should bend all the way without breaking. Your dog cutting days would be over. Yeah. Dogs are going to eat your fingers. What? Like, what's the difference of a dog if you sweat with marinera sauce? Dogs like anything. Dogs eat pizza all the time. Okay. Well, I'm going to live in Nova Scotia and I'm going to have a fucking

seasonal depression lamp. You just be outside. And I'm going to be a commercial fisherman. Sweat inside. Yeah, I'm going to be a commercial fisherman. And, uh,

yeah, like if I get a little mariner on, on me, the dudes on the boat, understand. That's a no. Just always bring, uh,

that's a no go for me. It's around with you. How'd you end up here? Well, that's, I would, I would, there's no way I'll be invited to any hotel

all hotels have white sheets and I sweat when I sleep and a red ring around the red. Yes, definitely. I would have to. I would have to. It's just like, yo, like, imagine.

I can't smoke a joint or a blunt with hot dog fingers. Bro, I'll work it out. You can smoke out of a hot dog actually. Bro. Imagine seeing me float down the river with just red, marinara, just dripping while I'm on a tube.

You would be like, get this guy out of the river. The fish are feeding on you. You how would you explain that to your kids? Guys got a disability of sorts. Okay. No, red sweat. Yeah. Mariner's sweat.

Uh-huh. I sweat too much. I can't do it. What game show would you make a killing at? Price is right. You would? That makes sense. Yes.

I used to watch that show all the time. Me too. But would you put the one where you got to spell the word and there's all the squares. Will of fortune? Wheel of fortune. Mm-hmm. No problem. I'm so good at that.

The best will of fortune is the South Forks sit. Yeah. And it's people who are... I know it, but I don't think I should say it. Oh, man. Like the Oakland A's guy. We probably could set some stuff like that up, like in-house, but what's the Wayne Wade show,

minute to win it or or that like or not online he has some new he has some new game show but like any of those like minute to win it and like those little like beer pong is you'd be a great game show contesting you're honestly like you're a creative player the cube i mean honestly i mean i want you and steve harvey to get together really bad do you think that would know that don't can green light go on yes can green light go on versus like busting with the boys. Oh my God. Let's do it.

Can we do it? Yeah, we could do our own. Can we do it? Steve Harvey, I know Steve Harvey in that he, emcee, one of the NFL honors events, shook his hands. But if he doesn't want to do it,

we could do our own. Yeah. With someone else. I think we should do it with Steve Harvey. It would be dope if we did do that. I challenge busing. Going down, Jack. Well, Compton,

he doesn't know. He don't know. He don't know what's going. He don't know where he is. Then we're going to have to fight. You know? Then we're going to have to fight because... He's a downhill linebacker.

Who does the final? Who does the finals? Who, what two? Oh, probably you? No. Are you good at Family Feud now? Oh, I love... I think I should be in there, but...

Why does this speak up? No, you have to pick two, like, at the end for the final. Oh, 1V1? You don't watch Family Feud, dude? You got to get to 200 points. Yeah, dude. I want you win. I'm sending you out there.

Sorry. That would be fun. Yeah. When you lose to a team in the playoffs, would you prefer that team you lost to to win it all or to lose? You want to lose? No, no, no.

You want to lose? No, you want to say you lost it a chance. Good game, dog. Best luck the rest of the way. Hope you take it all. No, fuck that. Hey, good game, dog. Why?

Hey, good game, bro. Hope you lose next week. And then if they lose, it's just like, oh, that team was fraud. You were for you. You didn't win. And you're like, damn, we lost the frogs. He didn't win at all.

Nobody's thinking about, like, who was, you know, who was the third, fourth, best team in the playoffs. I think people do. No, not third, fourth best, but if you're that team, if you're on that team, I think it's better to be like, we lost in the playoffs that year, but we lost to the, to who end up winning. It probably depends on, it probably depends on who the team is. Yes. You know, like when.

Probably how the game went. Yeah. You know, there's a shitty game. The game went. Yeah, like, or are you in that team's division? vision like i can remember getting shit house to miami i couldn't be at a bar i was in the room me and tom sandy were watching seattle just steamroll denver i know reed you remember um but i hated every minute of it i wanted them to lose so bad and i told michael bennett that i was like bro

i want you to lose you know i can't have this good game dog that's why we won That's why we... And now we're together. Hey, can I get a ride home? I live like in Harrisburg. It might be different for players and coaches. I feel like if you're the coach and you see your team lose, you probably want that team to go on and win the title,

so you don't look as bad. But with players, you have the personal... It always comes down to when you're doing an autopsy report on a coach or, you know, like a tenure of a quarterback, but as a position player I don't give a fuck I want to see destruction yeah

so a corner who wears a cowboy collar yeah verse a D B or verse a lineman wearing D.B. who wins that fight? Oh like who's less affected by the corner? You think so?

Yeah corner you got to turn your head and stuff and you know a little neck mobility gets lost there but Merton Hanks would have no problem Merton Hanks is like he looked the way I used to look when I had a 69 Bronco. I looked like a fucking giraffe. My head was above the windshield.

Merton Hanks, same thing. He would be totally unaffected by the Cowboy Colour. I feel like there's O. Lyman who will wear DB cleats now. No? No, there's D. Lyman that might try. But I do think, you know, you need a little stability there. Yeah. It's going to affect the way you play, the way you anchor the run game and that sort of thing.

I'd be interested to know if anyone wears DB cleats on the line. Well, when I went to the combine, they told me they were like, The guy was training me, Martin Rooney, awesome trainer. Waffles. Yeah, great guy. Do you wear waffles? No, but they told me to wear like these skinny little track cleats. They were like basically like DB cleats.

And I do think I would have ran faster in normal. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah, it felt you feel like kind of naked out there. That's interesting. Yeah. So did they, did they throw, did they tell you to those, wear those cleats like when you got to the combine? or had you trained a little bit in those?

So when I trained, yeah, it was kind of like the last week for the combine, but when I trained, I ran a 4-5-8 laser. Okay, like this was on AstroTurf, though, and I was wearing cross-trainer's. And, you know, like maybe the timing was a little different, maybe the pressure, I don't know, but I ran like a 4-7. I ran like a 4-7-something.

So, yeah. I got a question for you. So we saw today that noted, player j jreddick and then podcaster and now is being interviewed for a head coaching position do you feel like he's opened the door for you player he has podcaster head coaching interviews he has refer back to my um my lincoln riley uh diatribe uh that's what it would take and uh you know it's like i would like a chick fillet in the in the building open on sundays i want like all this stuff you know lincoln riley had all these demands um i don't know i don't know i don't

know, JJ, man, maybe the work is harder now for less money than it would be as a coach, but he is all ball. He's calling these games and, you know, he's fucking real knowledgeable. So, I mean, and player coaches do pretty good in the NBA. Yeah. The team he's linked to is Toronto, so there could be some different demands being that a Canadian team. Yeah. Yeah, no, I would, I would, if I had to go back and coach, like in a fantasy world, Hmm

And I could skip to the front of the line I wouldn't do it No chance No chance Worried about getting Jeff Saturday Yeah worried about looking just like dog shit out there What about like an XFL team I would like to coach like

If there were a beer league football They have one They have them With the Charlottesville Silverbacks Silverbacks One day I'll coach the silverbacks. No disrespect to whoever's coaching the silverbacks.

You know, put my name in the hat for that. Would everyone come to our talent show? Yeah, do it. Friday, noon. High noon. Do it. Take care.