Green Light with Chris Long - Derek Carr! Saints 2024 Outlook, Maxx Crosby & NFL Road Environments. Jaylen Waddle's Contract, Horses in the NFL & We Play the Price Is Right!

Starting point is 00:00:00 What advice would you have for young quarterbacks? These rookies now, they got so much pressure on them. I feel like I know who they are two, three years before they get drafted. We're counting down. What advice would you give them? Yeah, I always say this. I was like, you got to, you know, you're going to be praised and you're going to be criticized. Ignore both because neither matter.

Starting point is 00:00:20 Right. Like, I don't care if you go out there and you go seven for seven in your team drill. Like, it doesn't matter, do it again. You know, I don't care if you go out there and you throw. You know, two picks, you know, in practice, you know, like, get over it. It doesn't matter. Keep learning. Keep growing.

Starting point is 00:00:36 Keep pushing yourself. Welcome to the Green Light podcast. Thanks everyone for tuning in today. It is Derek Carr, New Orleans Saint quarterback. He joins with Chris to talk a little Saints football, what it's like being on the Saints after so many years on the Raiders. His advice to rookie quarterbacks, learning coverages from Madden and teaching those coverages to other players, his friendship for Max Crosby, what Max might say when he sees him

Starting point is 00:01:07 on the field, and playing on the road. Both Chris and Derek remember one particular Seattle fan who always sat in a corner and talked to him all game. Playing on the road special in the NFL, these guys talk about that plenty more. And outside Derek, a fun Friday freak show for you. Makin and Chris run through some NFL topics, some news to start things off, give a little layup line. and then after Derek, one of the most entertaining game shows in podcast forum, you could ask. Price is Right.

Starting point is 00:01:36 We play the Price is Right game with a sports twist, a blast and a half, and you know it'll get competitive. Entertaining for you all, make sure you check it out on YouTube. If you like it enough, we'll catch you next Tuesday.

Starting point is 00:01:48 Enjoy yourself. All right, I did see Xavier Worthy's video. The Chiefs, I'm not saying they're falling apart, But it feels like one of those things where a lot of little things are happening. Sure, there's some big things like the Rishi Rice thing, but there's also the Bugs thing where there. So allegedly, Isaiah Bugs, who used to play for the Lions, who now plays with Chiefs, defensive tackle, he had some dogs tied up, no food, no shelter, like just had them

Starting point is 00:02:44 tied up, which is wrong, right? Correct. Not good. Now you hear Isaiah Bugs side of the story. he's talking about the police down in Tuscaloosa are targeting him because they want to shut down his hookal lounge. But there's also the Xavier Worthy throwing money at a woman in a video, which that's not a big deal. But it does invite some of the criticisms of like, bro, you haven't even made a catch yet. What are we doing? What you're doing your own time is fine by me.

Starting point is 00:03:16 The Rishi Rice thing, not as much. You also have Patrick Mahomes without abs. You have Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift, there's just a lot going on in Kansas City. And I don't know if this is just one of those things we're going to have to, like the whole offseason is going to be buckle up in Kansas City. Kansas City. Hello? Hello. There you go.

Starting point is 00:03:37 It does feel like there's a lot of shit going on there. Yeah, and yet they keep winning Super Bowl. Exactly. But really, like people talk about the character issues that Andy Reid and Brett Veach have looked past at times and like, yeah, that's true. But they've had a few things going on. in the past couple years. Like, like, if you go all the way back to Javon Belcher, which was like a terrible tragedy,

Starting point is 00:03:58 there was the, you know, Andy Britt Reid situation. I'm probably missing a bunch of them. There's Tyree Kill situation a few years ago. It's just, it's kind of a shit show. But I think they'll be okay. To your point. Yeah. They got Patrick Mahomes.

Starting point is 00:04:14 They have Andy Reid. They have a strong veteran group. Oh, I forgot about the Harrison Bucker thing. That's a big one. There's a lot of distractions coming out of, uh, Kansas City. Big Howie Long, those types, they were doing these things. There just weren't the phone cameras, the camera phones, if you will. What are these things do you think my dad was doing? Well, throwing the money around. I don't think he was throwing the money around, dude.

Starting point is 00:04:36 You know, his, his, his, his, his, his gal happened to be your mother. Yeah, but I don't think he was throwing money on my mom. Okay, well, you think he was mad after the fucking article you wrote in high school, wait until this is. You got a couple days until he gets back from Italy. They also had two offensive tackles arrested for marijuana possession just recently which i think is bullshit can i just say this like i i hate the fact that like we we're still looking at that like a you know hey wag of the finger like what are you doing you're creating a distraction for the team like this thing i understand that it's not federally legal and uh in the NFL it's still not something that we don't test for but come on man they're doing it it could be me in that mugshot.

Starting point is 00:05:21 Well, they just, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they just possessed it. They had some pot in Missouri. How, how, how did the authorities find it? Well, I don't know all that. You know? But I'm just telling you, it's just like, some of this stuff is, is no big deal to me, but some of the, like the Xavier Worthy video is no big deal.

Starting point is 00:05:41 Right, but. It's kind of a good for you situation. Yeah. But if you're the chiefs, you'd rather that not be out there? Yeah, sure. Now, if you're Xavier Worthy's cat, who's barely visible hiding behind the shower curtain, I don't know how much of this you got to, like, what take was this where the cat was like, I'm just going to go back here. Well, at least, how many takes? At least that cat isn't one of Isaiah bugs his dog. Yeah, it could be worse. Yeah. Yeah. Um, sheltered. All right, anyways, you got the hello.

Starting point is 00:06:11 I got the layup line. This is going to be a fun show. We got Derek Carr on a little bit. That was a lot of fun. Like legit love interviewing quarterbacks. And when you look back, we haven't had many quarterbacks on. We had Heineke. We've had Derek Carr. Cole McCoy. Kenney Pickett. Kenny Pickett.

Starting point is 00:06:28 We're just scratching the surface. A lot of white quarterbacks. I have been DMing every black quarterback. Okay. All right. All right. Chill player. Lamar Jackson.

Starting point is 00:06:39 Hey, Lamar, come on the show. All right. So anyways, we've got Derek Carr coming up. I want to do a layoff. upline double feature so this is the new never wore off my sweet baby this is a long song title for a guy that wrote songs for a living but dean dillon who i'd never heard of and i love old country and i think i've heard just about all of it but yesterday i was proved wrong because i was i don't know how i found this but dean dylan had a couple bangers and he wrote songs for a living uh we were looking at some of the

Starting point is 00:07:10 songs he wrote tennessee whiskey which was a big one but my biggest like aha moment was seen that he wrote Set Him Up Joe, which was an old burden song. And it is one of my favorite songs. So I was ecstatic to find this guy's catalog. You were just sitting here yesterday after you recorded. And then all of a sudden you yelled in celebration me. You found this new guy. Found a new song.

Starting point is 00:07:34 You don't find a new song a lot. And it wasn't just one song. We got a whole. A couple of them, dude. So the double feature is, I want to include Mel McDaniel in this. Mel McDaniel is Louisiana. Saturday night, which everybody knows that song. But Mel had a couple real bangers, and this one's probably going to be a song of summer.

Starting point is 00:07:51 For me, it's Goodbye Marie. And I love the song. The reason it popped into my head was Kyle texting me yesterday, and he was like, hey, if the cartel was going to kill you, but you had a chance to perform one song, what do you think it would be? And I think it would be Louisiana Saturday night. Like had a chance to perform to get out of being killed? Yeah. Like, this guy is great at singing songs? No, like, you have to perform a song in front of the cartel.

Starting point is 00:08:14 And if it's no good, you get killed. But maybe if it's bad enough that it's fun, you don't get killed. I think it's a great choice. I think it's like American Idol. Yeah. Who would not like Louisiana Saturday Night? Okay, but Goodbye Marie has some of those Mexican horns in there. And I was thinking maybe they might like the horn.

Starting point is 00:08:31 So I went with Goodbye Marie. But Goodbye Marie is probably going to be the song of the summer. Okay. I don't know the water. I love that song. It's awesome. And I want to shout out Dean Dillon. Dean Dillon has a daughter named Song.

Starting point is 00:08:45 I think, nice, do you write her? She is. She's a songwriter. Well, think about it. If I named my kid football. But Dean Dillon could write the fuck out of a song. I mean, some of these songs he wrote were incredible. And he was good, man.

Starting point is 00:09:08 He was good, dude. The thing, we got talking yesterday, can you believe that Chris Stapleton was a songwriter for so long? Or that, you know, he was with the steel drivers for a while and people weren't like, hey, this guy could take over the world. Took him until, like, what, he was 35, until someone was like, oh, hey, we should put him on the CMA Award show. That'd be smart. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:09:27 It's a lot of great songwriters that also make great music. Go and shout out Dean Dillon. I think he's a lot. He is live. He's 69. And he looks like Reed. Yes. Not currently.

Starting point is 00:09:37 Yeah, I would take that for sure. But you're going to look like Dean Dillon. Yeah. You're handsome dude. Going for it now. All right. So, we're a little music there. A little more music.

Starting point is 00:09:44 T. Higgins posted an Instagram. Bengals, wide receiver T. Higgins on Instagram. I tell him no, they can't wait to call me selfish. It's him holding a football in the gym in the middle of a workout. And of course, everybody takes that to mean that, like, he's not going to play for the Bengals. But there's a song by Chicken P that he's playing over the picture called Venting. And if everybody knows Chicken P, he's a rapper. And this song, one of the quotes is, what the fuck did you do for me?

Starting point is 00:10:14 You know, now you want something. Now what the fuck did you do for me? I don't necessarily interpret that as being aimed at the Bengals. That could be aimed at any number of people in his personal life. Yeah, he's holding a football in a gym, though. I understand. I understand. But, you know, and guys like to send these subliminals now out on Instagram, right?

Starting point is 00:10:34 What's the deal with T? We're waiting for a trade? He, I think he needs a new contract. He needs a new contract. But he demanded a trade. Him and Trey Henderson at the same time, we're like, yo, we out. And then Trey got, Tray was like, I'm back. Yeah, yeah.

Starting point is 00:10:49 But, of course, all this stuff is relevant because today Jalen Wado got paid. Yeah. Jailen Wado got paid. He deserves it. Big paid. Really good player, man. And somebody that, like, got paid like a number one here. It's a three-year deal.

Starting point is 00:11:02 I think it's worth like 76 mil guaranteed, 84, 75. Fourth highest. Fourth highest. And, hey, that checks out. The timing of the deal. It's also really good that the Dolphins smartly got this done. head of guys like T. Higgins, Justin Jefferson, C.D. Lamb, etc. Jamar Chase. This is a deal that, you know, the dolphins won't regret. Whether or not they pay Tua, which I could go either way.

Starting point is 00:11:29 Because in three years when this deal is up, you could also have a franchise quarterback on the, on the books, and you're going to want a number one receiver. You don't know what happens with Tyreek the next time that contract comes around. You might want to trade him for assets. He might be the gateway to a new quarterback if you don't like the current quarterback right yeah i'm not trying to plant seeds i you know how i feel about to it but they could pay him um and i think having a jalen really helps and you know he's a number two on that team but he's a number one only 26 years old and so he's going to hit free agency again before he's 30 so like this is this is the way guys are thinking about things now like it didn't always used to be like this guys would just think about the most security the longest deal

Starting point is 00:12:13 Now it's like, hey, can I get to free agency again? I want to bet on myself. I want to be younger when the time comes. And I think for Waddle, this is a good contract. And it's smart of the dolphins. I got to give him credit on this one. And some people might say, well, fourth highest salary is the fourth best wide receiver.

Starting point is 00:12:32 That's not the way it works, obviously. Right? And he's up there. Again, he's a number one that's getting paid like a number one, but he's number two on that team. And he could be a number one at some point on that team because of what what I talked about. So Jalen Waddle, congratulations on a big deal.

Starting point is 00:12:48 And the T. Higgins and CD Lamb sagas roll on. Dallas fans are probably pissed off because they're not letting the Tua contract that's looming keep them from paying their guy. And in Dallas, it kind of feels like they're not gonna do anything. But I think that's also a product of the fact that they kind of know where they are right now

Starting point is 00:13:07 and they don't have to rush. Jalen, when he scores touchdowns, he celebrates like a penguin. which is cool waddling which is really cool it's like 10 out of 10 yeah 10 of 10 there's also a horse off going on right now which i think is really fun when i saw ed oliver the other day galloping and the horse was galloping he was ride the horse uh ed oliver wasn't galloping ed oliver is one of my favorite players anyways he plays like a guy who could wrangle a steer you know and i know he's from texas like but he does like he's got incredible grip strength

Starting point is 00:13:40 he's like fucking he'll he'll knife in there he's explosive it looks like he's like just got that country strength about him he's a little bit undersized but here he is uh and his horse galloping at about 15 20 miles an hour can i stop you right there why why well i'm not a big horse guy but i don't think that's a gallop it's like a really strange gate it's a trot it's a it's more of a trot okay he's trotting yeah his horse is trotting and look how smooth because ed oliver's not moving a bit he's not bouncing up and down as he is he is But he should be. Well, we don't know.

Starting point is 00:14:14 In the 18th century, that's how they judged the best athletes who could ride a horse the best. Really? But really? Aren't you supposed to be, you're supposed to be. Is that why black guys look so much cooler on horses and the white guys? Have you did all the, like, we did westerns for 50 years and nobody looked as cool as as Jamie Fox in Django. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:14:36 Yeah. Like all those white guys, they do. I mean, I know it's like. Anyways, Ed Oliver, you look cool as shit. So then the next day, like a day later, Devin White, who's also a horse guy. I got a teammate Eugene Sims who rides horses like on the highway like this down in Mississippi. Like that's what happens in Mississippi. Like he's in the right lane on the shoulder and cars are going by 45, 50 miles an hour.

Starting point is 00:15:01 So it's like a different world down there. But does it not hurt the hooves? I don't know. You have to ask the horse. They got good tires. Horses got good tires. Evan White puts out a horse video like the day after. And I couldn't help but wonder if it was like a response to Ed Oliver,

Starting point is 00:15:18 if we're going to start seeing like horse beefs. I can't help but wonder who's filming. Okay. So what I did is I texted somebody who knows horses. And I gave him the two videos. And I said, hey, can you break the, I got. I said, hey man. Well, actually I said, hey, hoss.

Starting point is 00:15:35 If I sent you two horses galloping, could you tell me which one is the better horse? and he said, I'm going to get some Argentine grooms that can give an assessment. I was like, oh, fuck, that sounds like, I don't even know what that is, but it sounds like. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:15:48 So I get the, I get the report back right before we turn on the microphones. Ed Oliver is the better rider according to this Argentinian groomsman because his legs, his leg is steadier while riding. This person is an accomplished equestrian,

Starting point is 00:16:06 weighing in, grew up doing hunter jumper, is a great polo player and provides riding and polo lessons for both kids and adults. She evaluates riders on a weekly basis and he trusts her judgment. A lot of pronouns there. Can probably help me select the right horse for me. I was like, nah, man, that's not. No, that's not what I'm doing.

Starting point is 00:16:26 I just want to know of Ed Oliver. You just bought a horse. Yeah, right. No, no, no. So basically the gavel has been banged. It is, it is Ed Oliver, who's the better rider. And I'd agree. you would agree yeah yeah i agree and that was my initial initial read on the situation here's my short list

Starting point is 00:16:46 of nfl stars that i'd like to see riding a horse that would look cool riding a horse okay you ready yep george kettl yep number one yep long hair kind of a conan vibe it's good fit Patrick mahomes hmm yes dude yes hmm with his head all cocked to yeah he would look cool as shit dude with his belly out and fucking doing weird things of his tongue sounding like he's smoking like he's smokes sigs when he when he gallops by he's like looking all frustrated so yeah uh michael parsons number three okay i think he'd look really cool on a horse lamar jackson i think so Lamar jackson looked cool doing anything and then Baker mayfield yeah huh i just want to see baker mayfield riding a horse i think he'd look cool i didn't want to put five guys with hair initially that's what i was thinking

Starting point is 00:17:31 it was like guys with hair look the coolest riding horses but that's my list of five who do you want to see riding a horse eight and Hutchinson. Really? Yep. You know who I like to see riding a horse? Vins Will Fork. Horses sit down. Yeah. I throw Justin Herbert on one of those because you could throw like a sword in his hand and he would look like he's straight out of the 1200s. Really? Yeah. You think? The hair and everything looks like he's, you know, fighting. That's what I'm going for with Kittle. Yeah. Yeah, he would be hopping off his biking ship right onto a horse. Okay. So we've got a ruling on the horse off. There was also another video that that went viral in the last day or two of Aaron Rogers.

Starting point is 00:18:15 Limping, adjusting something in his cleat. Now, naturally, these internet slews and worldwide web MDs are going to weigh in. And usually I am, I stay out of these things. But I'll just tell you this, like there's two schools of thought in seeing him changing out his cleats and holding up this pad and putting it in his cleats and then limping out of bootlegs and that sort of thing. One, it could be a blister. It could be nothing.

Starting point is 00:18:43 I just want to make that perfectly clear. It's not even on the foot that he injured last year. That's the best case scenario, right? OTAs, I suppose you'd get a blister. I used to get them in training camp when you break out new cleats and you run a lot, right? But quarterbacks aren't really running a lot. So I've never seen a quarterback be like after a practice. Like I have a blister, right?

Starting point is 00:19:04 So that's one thing. And it's usually not an OTAs. Usually in camp, that sort of thing. but I don't know how Aaron works. So he could have a blister. The other thing he could have is Achilles soreness on the other Achilles because that oftentimes happens from what I understand. After you pop one Achilles,

Starting point is 00:19:21 you're going to go through a period where the other Achilles is stiff. And there is a risk of popping the next one, right? Like, that's something that I think is relatively well known, even if you don't pop here Achilles. The piece of plastic that he put in his shoe, I've actually had Achilles tendonitis before after I had that foot surgery and tried to play on it when you come back early, your Achilles bears all load and that sort of thing.

Starting point is 00:19:42 So a lot of times, like the feeling of the hard back of the cleat pushing into your Achilles can really be uncomfortable. Like it's a real pain. And if he has that on his other Achilles, I don't know if that means that he's worried about something catastrophic happening, but it could create soreness. It's conceivable that judging by the plastic square that he was holding up and trying to look at how thick that square is, it's a pad for your Achilles, not a blister. pad you know so um i'm not saying anything's wrong but just so you understand like what you're seeing

Starting point is 00:20:14 it could either be achilles tendonitis or it could be a blister what you choose to believe is up to you i'm not going to make a determination this isn't my wheelhouse other than having been a player and having had both these issues he's ramping back up you're not you don't walk straight after you're after you ramp back up for the first time no i don't think this is necessarily a death sentence for the Jets seeing him limp around in May, but it is late May, you know, and I was told last year that he was ready to play in December. Any week now. He's limping and it's May. And I'm not saying that that's the Achilles. It could be a blister. I'm not making a determination either way. But just for people that see the video, it could be one of two things. It could be one of more than

Starting point is 00:20:59 two things. I'm sure. I don't think I'm an expert. Yeah. Good thing. We have another three months. in a week to talk about it. Exactly. But it did pop up and people, and we got, I think we're going to get Sauce Gardner on Monday. Nice. So, you know,

Starting point is 00:21:14 it's a Jets topic for Jets fans. Philly Gene King. That's a great name. For who? Philly. Like anybody that wants a screen name? Yeah, like horse-related. Philly Jean King.

Starting point is 00:21:31 Billy Jean King was a tennis player. Yeah. A human. Yep. Billy May Cyrus That's better There's a horse Okay

Starting point is 00:21:43 Philly Well Philly like you know like a female horse Like a young female horse Yeah you're in a equestrian Yeah yeah that's good John Bonpony Okay I get it Yeah

Starting point is 00:21:53 John Bonpon yeah I'm trying to come with a football one Okay Thank you guys Philly Jean King That's good Nick Foles. For more than one reason.

Starting point is 00:22:12 Nobody made that connection. Michael Gallup. It's right there in his name. Michael Gallup. Really good. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:22:19 Trot Nixon. Steed Ferguson. Snapper for the dolphin. Or wherever the fuck he snaps. I don't keep that much tabs on snappers. Gucci, Maine. that's good that's good oh uh Walt Clydesdale Frazier all right I think I think the hay is in the barn

Starting point is 00:22:49 okay but you're still thinking no I am okay okay so um this new kickoff rule yes continue to make make news like people are saying it's going to be the biggest NFL rule change in more than 10 years and I agree like this is going change things a lot. Hearing special teams coaches at the podium now, being able to actually talk about it at OTAs is like a huge moment because we get to see what they're

Starting point is 00:23:17 looking at. And one of the things that Dave Tobes said is the Kansas City, he's the Kansas City Chief Special Teams Coordinator, is he said that we're going to have Justin Reed kicking off some. Because when you look at the UFL, a lot of those

Starting point is 00:23:33 tackles, 40% or something, have the kicker involved. You don't want Bucker out there or any kicker out there kicking off and having to be counted upon to make these tackles. Yeah, it's a man's job. Harrison will be in the kitchen during kickoff. So he's actually going to be making sandwiches. Yep. Yeah.

Starting point is 00:23:53 It's the whole thing. I think it's interesting. I think it's really interesting. It's going to open up a whole other layer of gamesmanship. Could take a roster spot away from somebody else. Well, when we talked about Ibrahimovich and like some of these big jacksman. soccer players like now we're starting to see there's a reason that that you would sign a soccer player bassi janikowski he was just 20 yeah bring him out of fucking retirement 20 years too early

Starting point is 00:24:22 yeah dude so um i don't know i think it's going to be super interesting but hearing special teams coaches talk about this stuff um there's going to be a game within the game you know it's a cool thing to say if you're a ball knower dave tobe should be a head coach You think? That's what people will say. People say that. Anyways, here's Derek Carr, slow news day, so enjoy the interview. And then at the end, we've got this great game that Matt might have come up with.

Starting point is 00:24:51 Oh, and one more thing. Just because I'm going to ask Derek Carr about Madden, bro. I think I figured out Madden. Like one of these. It was like kind of an epiphany, okay? So about three, four days ago. You're going to be sitting in Times Square, like playing in the finals of the tournament? Maybe.

Starting point is 00:25:06 I hope so. Because I love the game. I love the game. People complain about it being not great, but I think it's great. Pretty soon you could win the over 40 division. Is there an over 40 division? It's just a wayward age ago. Did you just get out of a hospital bed?

Starting point is 00:25:26 Weezy. All right. Guys got COVID-19. It's 2024. Yeah, dude. So anyways. But here's the deal. I was around 500.

Starting point is 00:25:39 I played about 200 games since I got the game. And I was about 500, over 500, but I was playing with like the Chargers or the Saints or like these teams that are like 78 overall because I like the challenge of somebody coming on with an 88 team and saying they're going to kick your ass, which they always do.

Starting point is 00:25:57 You ready for this, oh, Greg? Because my name has Greg in it and let my kid pick it out. It's a long story. which is nice too because i saw this thing online yesterday where somebody somebody got beaten and madden so bad that they lied and when the guy messaged them and was like you suck he was like i leave my shit muted when i'm getting beat i just i'll listen to the guy he's like what you don't have a mic the whole thing i'm just sitting here but the guy had uh had messaged the other player back and was

Starting point is 00:26:28 like i'm 11 you know and the guys said oh never mind i'm sorry you're really good for your age like the whole thing. I will, if I could, I would tell people that, like, I really last night thought about telling a guy that I was like, deaf. I don't know how I would do that, but I was like, I was getting beat so bad. So yeah, have I figured it out? Yes. Moral of the story is I figured it out. I changed teams. I went to the Ravens. I went eight and two over a three day span. I was like crushing. I was beating all these guys that used to beat me because they had better teams and all of a sudden, I have a good team. But then last night, I get on, and the guy's screen name pops up,

Starting point is 00:27:07 and it's like, Dark Man 666. Uh-oh. And I'm like, uh-oh, especially after episode 666, like, this is weird. Guy goes up 8-0. I throw a pick. Guy goes up 16-0. It's the middle of the first quarter. I drive the ball all the way down the field, throw into cover 3.

Starting point is 00:27:24 He was an invert, and I go down 24-0. guy likes going for two right then i go down 32 nothing at 46 nothing in the second quarter i quit the game okay uh so have i figured it out this guy's a top 1500 player in the in the in the in the in the land is that frowned upon the quitting it is and i don't usually quit but i don't want to waste that guy's time either you know that's a respect thing you know like if i'm down three scores but does he not get credit for a win or something he does get credit okay like when you quit you lose okay okay which is a nice feature. It didn't it be chaos. Now was I a little stone? Yeah. Did I forget what I've selected on like game plan at the beginning like 15 seconds later? I was like fuck am I defending the deep pass or

Starting point is 00:28:10 yeah but this guy beat me fair and square and then he went back doing wicker or whatever the fuck he does but like the guy whoop my ass gave me a bit of humble pie but before that I was eight and two with the ravens and I feel really good about my chances against most people who have lives outside of Madden. Yeah. I just wanted to say I got that figured out and I got softball figured out this week. Did you see my little video? I just wanted to take a second before I walk in the house. Listen, there's moments in everybody's athletic career

Starting point is 00:28:41 that a light bulb goes off and they're just like, oh, that's how you do it. And tonight I want to talk about softball. Is that lame? No, it's not lame because it's important to me. And I think softball is cool. And I've been playing for two years in the City League here, actually maybe three.

Starting point is 00:28:58 and the whole time I've been swinging the bat wrong. I just got home from the game. Before I go inside, I just wanted to share what that epiphany was for me. I'm watching my friend John Phillips, who owns a dump truck and hits dingers, just chop wood in the on-deck circle. All of a sudden, I go, John, I get it. You don't hit it like a baseball. You hit it like a softball.

Starting point is 00:29:23 Now, this is 12-inch softball. Big Cat asked me, a 16-inch softball. Show to my ear. in Mercedes jersey it's not 16 never seen a southern white i don't think playing 16 inch softball i just think that's a regional thing i don't hit beach balls i hit softballs so i said john i think i think i i think i'm gonna hit a home run and mind you like dudes at the park think i got low t i'm one of the bigger guys out there and i got no dingers and so people are like what's going on with this guy anyways i step up to the plate first pitch dinger yeah off a guy

Starting point is 00:29:58 glove and then it bounced over but it was like it was I could tell when it came off the bat I was like I wouldn't even hit pop flies it was hitting grounders liners only get rid of that baseball swing maybe I didn't know how to hit a baseball I mean I don't I had a moderately illustrious high school career but uh maybe it was just a light ball period but it was like it just it just turned on for me tonight and um yeah I'm really fucking proud okay this is one of those moments for me you know it's like learning how to how to do the swipe when leonard little taught me the swipe it was like holy shit i can make some money doing this and now it's like well this isn't going to help me or my family at all but this this is an important hobby and i figured i figured the whole thing out

Starting point is 00:30:48 by the way five for five two dingers one of them towering shot fucking moonball so yeah i dedicate this game to bill walton i came to the ballpark i came to the ballpark I swear to God, I came to the ballpark, and usually I'm kind of dragging ass. I smoke a joint in the parking lot, and I'm like, I don't know if I really feel like planning out, I could pull muscle. I'm gonna, and I said, you know what? Fuck, fuck this. Bill Walton would come to the ballpark with enthusiasm.

Starting point is 00:31:18 He would have an epiphany about how to launch a softball, and he would go five for five and pick up a win on the mountain. I feel like my dad was telling me to throw strikes for four years. in the bleachers and I couldn't do it and all of a sudden tonight I found the zone. I'm talking about at the plate. So I don't know what's next for me. But tonight I felt like a king out there. It was incredible.

Starting point is 00:31:47 My teammates, they picked me up. We were playing a pitcher with a helmet. He's like the best pitcher in the league. He's one of the best pitch in the league. I really wanted to beat him. And we did because my teammates helped me. Bill Walton was a great teammate. bro i i have not been hitting the ball at all like this has been like uh about eight rbi i's a thing for me

Starting point is 00:32:05 dude where i've been feeling like less than because i can't hit a softball here's the the key it took me three years to realize you don't swing like baseball hmm you probably knew that not really no here's the deal if you're playing softball when you're a kid and you play baseball you think about squashing the bug keeping keeping your hands in right like you're so you can hit the inside pitch and you can drive the ball and all that stuff and you kind of like turn your wrists over and the bottom of your inside hand is like it's not that far away from your belly button in softball you're you're swinging a golf club sideways okay you're you're extending your arms and you're driving the ball so so needless to say I had this epiphany and it felt great and I got to say

Starting point is 00:32:55 is it dumb to talk about softball does it feel like bragging yeah maybe but if you only knew how average I was until the other night, like, you'd be excited too. And it's also something that's important to me. It's important to me when you own the team not to be Vladimir Putin on skates out there. Like people are like, yeah, Vlad wants the puck again. They got me on the mound. There's a lot of pressure on me. I picked up the win. It was like a really banner night for me. The umpire made your strike zone about this small. Well, George was, here's what George was doing. George is a guy. I love this guy. He's like, I don't want to want to age him but he's older and he's like we have this little friendly rivalry with george

Starting point is 00:33:35 and the other day i went to lows because i had a DIY project i was trying to do and i ran into fucking george in the in the aisle and george was really friendly he was way different than he is at the ballpark way less cremogeny and i love george and i love him for his like crumagony quirks too but i think what happened is i even asked him to take a picture to send to the boys I think he was overcompensating to not be buddy, buddy. He does it all the time. You know? Because I see him at the golf course, because he's a ranger at a local golf course.

Starting point is 00:34:07 I see him like, oh, hey, man, how you doing? And I realize this. So now I just give him like, nod. Good to see you, George, and keep it moving. I think after I took that picture, he's like, I'm going to squeeze the fuck out of this guy. Oh, yeah. Well, and the whole team because Nate, there were about three plays that Nate was. Let me say this is about Nate.

Starting point is 00:34:24 Okay. There was a guy or guys that were responsible for putting the bases in the right places like a you know there's a uniform distance that you have i think it's 90 feet well whatever they did they moved the fucking bases way in so just to pick up a win on the mound is hard because infield hits were but the point is Nate basically ground into a double play and he only had to run 35 feet okay like it's not good uh-huh i told him i said in softball 24 i'm lowering your speed rating yeah 58 dude um somebody have to turn turn it or did somebody just gather and step on second and throw it to turn it was a turn dude

Starting point is 00:35:02 you got turned to short and it we had the same we had a same exact same play yeah george called it the other way save it first so anyways i don't want to take a lot of you football fans are like what the fuck do i care about softball but you all have you all have hobbies that are outside of your your your like your your expertise and you're like i'd like to be good at that and it just that you have these moments where you're like holy shit that's why all those guys who are smaller than me were hitting the ball further than me in front of my wife. Now, are you at all worried about like a 46-nothing situation next time out? Totally, because I thought I had Madden figured out, and I think I have softball figured out,

Starting point is 00:35:37 but what's coming next? Who do we play Tuesday? We play nobody. We have a buy. Rest up. Everyone gets straight. And we've got two double headers, back-to-back double headers. Great.

Starting point is 00:35:48 And then the playoffs, hopefully we make it in. What's the record, fellas? Records six and one. Oh, wow. Really? Look at that. You all wear the uniforms and everything? Do you wear the uniforms.

Starting point is 00:36:00 That's great. We're uniforms down to our belly button, though, because we're missing the uniform company missed a button. I wear my year. I'm a Mercedes jersey. Okay. Yeah, that's an ownership perk. Yeah. All right, here's Derek Carr.

Starting point is 00:36:13 All right, so we don't get a lot of quarterbacks on, so I'm excited. And this is a pretty damn good one. Derek Carr of the New Orleans Saints, guy used to bump into every now and again on the field. He is joining us from what looks like the facility. What's going on, man? Go home, get some rest, see your family. What's the deal? You know what?

Starting point is 00:36:32 We did not win enough games, so I've been here a long time. I got more work to do. But no, it's good to see you, man. It's been way too long. I know, no question. I think the last time we played was week 17 in Philly. Remember how cold it was? I remember how cold that was, yes.

Starting point is 00:36:52 Yeah, dude. Yeah, yeah. It was ridiculous. Rick, can you cue this up? We're going to test something out here. I've actually got this new technology here, Derek, where I can break down film with a quarterback. And I want you to tell me,

Starting point is 00:37:05 me in Marshall Newhouse that talks about this, am I off sides on this first sack that they took away from me? Do you remember this play? Yeah, I mean, you definitely jumped the gun a little bit. You think so? I think you had a lean or something, dude. I think that you liked when you played at home, because you knew when that center was going to,

Starting point is 00:37:25 snap the ball. You've figured us out, bro. All that complicated stuff y'all do. We just have to look at the center and look at the play clock. That's exactly right. And you all run that play clock down, that next head bob, we're going. You're gone 100%. Do you, do you, like, what's the gamesmanship like trying to get somebody to hard count? Do you admire something like when you watch Aaron Rogers and you're like, that's the Michael Jordan of hard counts? I love that stuff. I think that, you know, every system emphasizes different things that I've been in. I've been in a lot of systems. And two teams,

Starting point is 00:38:00 but a lot of systems. And you learn what different people emphasize. And so, you know, when you watch a team that emphasizes the using the snap count as a weapon and things like that, Aaron, how many free plays he's gotten, just based on him doing that,

Starting point is 00:38:14 like, you know, he's always been so good to me. So learning from him and asking questions and all that, like, you know, stealing that. I stole a few touchdowns off free plays,

Starting point is 00:38:23 you know, just just based on learning from the guys ahead of you. And so now I'm trying to teach that to these young guys and how to do it, you know, what to do with your hands, your eyes, you know, different things that make it look the exact same.

Starting point is 00:38:33 So they think it's the snap. And even one of my favorite throws of my life was in a pro bowl on a hard count, you know, but you hard count somebody in the pro bowl? What the heck are you doing out there, dude? And that jacked up. I did it.

Starting point is 00:38:45 Yeah. I did it. Yeah. That's really messed up. That's like breaking the bro code, I think. If there's a pro bowl of bro code. But what do you do like?

Starting point is 00:38:53 say you don't have a vertical route in the concept when you get somebody to jump, how does that go for the offense? Do you kind of know where your hot is and maybe just take the hot? Or do you just look up top? Yeah, you know, there's a lot of times, like if there is something down the field, even if it's double covered, like that's the one I'm just going to throw that one up, especially if you guys are right in my face. I'm just going to throw it up, save the hit, all those things.

Starting point is 00:39:18 You know, there was, there's times two where, you know, I love to do it in a two-minute drill. you're going you're down in the red zone the set first half the clock's running down man you get them on a get them on a hard count and then if the touchdowns there if not just throw it away you know because i actually had one where a guy jumped for playing kansas city at home and i i peaked and they didn't throw the flag and so thankfully i didn't just throw it up but you know there's times like that where the refs when it was first happening they kind of miss them sometimes yeah the two minute thing is legit i mean i'm you're going to get me 10 out of 10 times yeah two minutes You know, like, but it's an extra three seconds that might be worth it, you know,

Starting point is 00:39:57 that's right. You know, the situation. So how you like in New Orleans area, like being on a new team? I feel like you were going to be Mr. Raider. And I think everybody starts out and you played there so long and were such a fixture. I remember when I left St. Louis, I want to be a ram for life. And the Raiders are a great organization. Was it tough for you to like now imagine yourself in a different uniform and what's that experience been like?

Starting point is 00:40:20 It was really hard, you know, because I, I mean, just, you know, with the relationship I have, you know, Mark and, you know, the team, the organization, I thought I was going to be there just forever, you know. Yeah. And it didn't work out that way, obviously. But when I put, went to put a new jersey on, I was like, my pants aren't silver anymore. You know, it's like, yeah. It looked, it looked weird, you know, it didn't feel right. But at the same time, like, the heart of it, the decision, the team, the organization, all that felt right.

Starting point is 00:40:49 But it just looked funny, you know. And so it took me, it took me. a little longer than I thought to get acclimated, if I'm honest, you know, and learning everybody's name, you know, in the building. You know, I had relationships with everyone from the owner to the janitor in the Raiders building, you know. Right. Yeah. Yeah. You know, you come into a new building. I'm like learning everyone's name and where do I go for stretch, you know, when do we do this? What do we, who sits here? You know, I don't want to take Cam Jordan's seat day one, you know. Definitely not him, right? You know, I'm trying to start off. Or to Mario Davis, dude. I feel.

Starting point is 00:41:22 like Mara Davis might be the worst guy to take his seat. You guys kind of scary. You know, he's kind of a badass. Absolutely. And so all of those things, you know, it's just new. And it took me a while, if I'm honest. But now, like, I just feel at home. Like, it feels like my team feels like, you know, I'm there with the leaders that we have and we're leading together.

Starting point is 00:41:42 And it doesn't feel like I'm trying to catch up. It feels like we're here together and we're pulling everybody, you know, there with us. And so that part of it feels way more at home this year for sure. How long does it take to get that feeling? Because last year was a work in progress in a lot of ways, but also your shoulder, right? Like I think when people say when you return to play, they think, oh, he's healthy.

Starting point is 00:42:08 How long did that particular injury linger and how difficult did that make it? Yeah, I mean, so I ended up breaking two ribs and then had obviously something with my shoulder. and I didn't feel good until probably two weeks before we came back in April. And so, like, I was getting, you know, getting the shot to be able to throw. You know, if I didn't have that, I wouldn't be able to throw. And there was a lot of stuff.

Starting point is 00:42:36 And, you know, man, no excuses. Like, you got to go perform. You got to go try and win and all that. And I just came just like you did. I was raised different. Like, if it works, like, I'm going to be out there. You know, even if it's not putting my best foot forward. You know, you hear about some people getting a growing or a hammy nowadays, and it's like, hey, it's two weeks and really it takes them four.

Starting point is 00:42:58 You know, like to me, like I was like, if I can be out there for my guys, no matter what, even if, even if I'm not at my best, I still feel like I can help us win, you know, and I'm just going to be out there no matter what it puts out on the tape. And so I guess I'm like right on that cusp of the older generation of how like we dealt with things. And so it's a really fine dynamic of, you know, watching that happen. But I wouldn't. I wouldn't have traded it for anything because now my guys know that no matter what I'm dealing with. I mean, I got teammates walking by. I'm getting shots here, shots here. And, you know, that stuff right there just shows them that I'll do anything for them. And, you know, it sucks to go through, but it also shows my team like, man, we're like, dude, this guy, he'll do anything to help us win.

Starting point is 00:43:38 And, you know, it builds that relationship. You're known to have, you know, big arm, be able to make the throws. But when you're banged up, how nice it to be in a system or with a group of guys, rather, more than anything, because I, I just think when the quick game's going for you guys with Alvin out of the backfield and the speed you have outside, how nice is it to have, you know, that kind of option, a style of play. Yeah, it was awesome, you know, and the way, you know, I got to learn so much just by watching Drew and the film, you know, run the offense and the decisions he's making to AK and this kind of thing. And so it really helped me last year, especially when I was banged up, that, man, I can, I know that I have that guy in AK, that I can get that ball to just out leverage.

Starting point is 00:44:26 And instead of a two-yard game, it's really nine yards with AK, you know. And, you know, that kind of stuff really helped. And, you know, with Chris and Rashid and the quick game, obviously that stuff helped us a lot, you know, because we had to call more of that stuff based on some of the health that I was dealing with. How important is it to have a differentiating body type, like a big target that you can throw to? You know, like, or a, you know, Jawan or something like a tight end,

Starting point is 00:44:49 but a guy who can actually create in space and has the size. Yeah, with, with like guys like A.T. and Jwan, you know, they allow me to make throws that you typically can't make with a smaller guy, right? Like, you know, if a guy is on his shoulder, well, I can, I can throw it, you know, way back here on a back shoulder ball and I know that they're going to go get it, you know. And A.T was that jump ball, back shoulder, big body guy, Jwan, also down the field, down the middle, making those, those plays that you love to throw as a quarterback,

Starting point is 00:45:18 you just, you can't throw to everyone based on what they were given at birth. You know, and, you know, those are guys that down the stretch for me, you know, I've always loved having a guy like that. You know, you have your starters, you know, and you have your guys that have roles, and they fit that role and just my style of play to be able to have that one-on-one guy that I can make that throw to. And they came down with most of them. So you trust them.

Starting point is 00:45:41 That trust builds for sure. Yeah. The thing behind you, the calendar. Okay, this is a relevant question right now because the PA is talking about changing the schedule on us, which is wild because, all right, I don't know how you feel about it, but we were talking about, like, being routine oriented as football players. Like, where do we stretch? Where do we, like, we're the same way with our schedule. You know, it's this time of the year. This is what I do. This is when we get together. For offensive players, especially and for quarterback, like installations, the whole thing. First off, how did you feel when you heard they might. might change the schedule earlier training camp, maybe sometime in June, maybe early in July, doing away with the voluntary stuff. And then second, how would that affect how you do your job? Yeah.

Starting point is 00:46:26 I think my answer may, I don't know how everyone else feels about it. I really haven't kept up, but it may be unpopular. But I think the skill that it takes to play all of our positions would go down because you have less time on task. I don't know. Like as a quarterback, your timing, your rhythm, your accuracy. all of that in April isn't at its best, you know, but you use these practices and these OTAs to get there. And then you get a little bit of a break, which I've always found nice for my family, you know, to have that time where I'm still working.

Starting point is 00:47:00 I'm still throwing, but I still have time to go take my kids to hit balls. I still can take them golfing. I can still do those things before it really ramps up. And I mean, the NFL season is already long and you're going to start it a month earlier. to me, I mean, I think for young guys, too, that would be hard. You know, I just, there's so much that the young players have to learn, in my opinion, again, it's all my opinion, but so much that they have to learn where I think OTAs are beneficial. Again, now that's coming from a guy who's been doing this 11 years, and I may have an old school,

Starting point is 00:47:30 older school of thinking. But just the skill it takes and the time on task, you know, especially as coaches, I mean, they're going to be stressed out of their mind getting guys ready to play, you know. You know, I don't know. I think it, I mean, we, if we're honest with ourselves, the job that we have is pretty unbelievable, you know, even with how the schedule is now. And so I enjoyed being here with my teammates. You know, if you, there's a lot of guys, you and I have probably both played with where you're like, you were really going to give that guy until the beginning of July off. You know, right. You're just not going to see that guy. Like nobody's going to check in. Like he doesn't have to come in the building. I'm with you. I'm with you. I think the popular take from players is going to be, it could be pretty disruptive. And like, listen, there are varying degrees of needing OTAs. Like, the guys in the offensive room need a lot more.

Starting point is 00:48:25 The guys in the coverage need a lot more. The guys in the defensive line room, we got to go through our stuff. But it's also good to get to know each other. It's good to bring the rookies along. And it's good to get together. You think about these teams that are trying to repeat. It's going to be really hard to repeat and stay good.

Starting point is 00:48:40 if you can't build the culture of your team through the calendar year. And for coaches, they're going to be miserable. Like, I bet coaches would hate this. Like, they love being out on the boat in the summer. They get that three-week period for once they don't have to sleep in the facility. You know what I mean? I think it would be majorly disruptive. Yes.

Starting point is 00:49:01 Yes. I think just the overall excellence of our game. And as you know, because we play, you know, like, There's so much fine detail and skill that is involved, along with the physicality, that you can't just get that with an extra two-week training camp, you know? No. I'd be okay with 10 more days of training camp,

Starting point is 00:49:22 and I sound crazy in old school. I came in when it was two a days, but there's a way to ramp up in a safe way. But you need the time, because nowadays, if you play in that Hall of Fame game, dude, I don't know if you ever played in that,

Starting point is 00:49:34 but it's coming like right now. Like you get in the building, you get your syllabus for, for the training camp, but you're your calendar and you're like, damn, shell, shell, shells, pads, pads, pads, can't. Like, that's, that's too fast. You know what I mean?

Starting point is 00:49:49 Yep. So I agree with them on that. But anyways, okay, let's talk about your schedule this year. Dallas and KC. early on the road, man. Like, I know they're all tough, but tough place to play, tough defenses. What goes into getting an offense ready to go early and communicate and be ready for the stress level of a place like Arrowhead. Oh, man, you know that.

Starting point is 00:50:14 Now that I'm not a writer, I can finally say it's one of my favorite places to play. I was going to say, yeah, you probably could. The place is amazing. It's amazing, man. And there's always one guy for the last 11 years that yells at me. And whether we've beat them or they're beating us, we have a good relationship, you know. I had a guy like that in Seattle. He was right in the tunnel.

Starting point is 00:50:35 He was hanging over the tunnel. That guy is amazing. You know the guy I'm talking about in Seattle? 100%. He's there every time. He knows everything about you. Yep. Yeah, he's the man.

Starting point is 00:50:46 Yes, I love that guy because he'll talk to you and he'll talk trash, but then the end the game, he daps you up and usually it was after a loss for us. But the last game, we were 0 for six. We won the seventh time and it was my last time playing there. And I said goodbye to the guy and everything. This is so funny. You remember this guy. Yes.

Starting point is 00:51:04 Oh, absolutely. He's a good dude. I've had great conversation. with them and so that's cool we so yeah Kansas City Dallas is two places I've thankfully I've I've been able to go and win at their buildings you know Kansas City you know they've gotten after us a lot there and so you I've seen both sides of it but you really it's the work that we just talked about OTA it's the work we're doing now the communication the little details of the assignment

Starting point is 00:51:33 the timing all of those things that when you get into a hostile environment. That's all you got is your thoughts. And so if your thoughts are scattered and your brain isn't on the right stuff, then that's where teams go out and there and you get blown out, you know, but if you're on your details, you know, anytime, you know, I can go to those games where we won in those places, like our details were money, you know, everyone's assignments are on point. And that's what it takes to beat those teams in their place because they're two amazing defenses and teams. I feel like just watching on the sideline, being stressed out, watching an offense on the road, try to do what they do.

Starting point is 00:52:06 it's about like starting fast and it's about conversions like those two things on the road to me what else do you think are the keys when you go on the road you know i think you hit it on the head i think if you start fast you can kind of take the crowd out of it at the beginning you know because you get up you go go get go down get a field go go down get a touchdown you know it's like oh crap you know that that second drive you come out it's not buzzing as loud as if it was a third down sack to end it, you know. And, you know, same thing. Moving the change on third down. You know, if you can sustain a good drive, but if you can, if you can convert on third down, you know, the, the, the, uh, yep, yep, they get tired of that. They get tired of that. After the fifth

Starting point is 00:52:49 conversion on drive, it's kind of quiet. It does. And, and so for me, it's staying efficient on first and second down are absolutely key. Because if you can get in the third of manageable, you know, obviously the percentages are higher. You can get them like that. That's where you can get a first down and take them out of it again. And then those next two downs, as you know, it's dead silent. And so, yeah. Do you prefer when you get the ball to receive on the road, you know, or do you prefer let the defense do it?

Starting point is 00:53:16 Because I'm just saying there's no offense to offensive players, but I'd rather we kick, you know what I mean? That a three and out on the road in a hostile environment to start a game is like a death sentence. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, especially against the offenses like Dallas and Kansas City. You know, like, they're unbelievable teams.

Starting point is 00:53:34 And so for me, I've always, I've always begged the head coach. You know how these analytics are now, but I've always like, give us the ball, you know. And they're like, yeah, we're going to deferred. Yeah. And they're like, go out there and defer. Yeah, I was like, let me, let me go out there. I want to play, you know. And so I'm all amped up.

Starting point is 00:53:54 And I was like, honestly, I want to get the first hit out of the way. I don't want to sit here for another 15 minutes while they're on offense. Like, let's go play. Yeah, that's true. That's true, too. Okay, so you got week 17, you got the Raiders. Yeah. At home, right in New Orleans, right?

Starting point is 00:54:08 It's in New Orleans, yeah. Okay. So Max Crosby's coming to town. Yep. Is he going to call you little ass boy or medium boy? What do you think he's got, what do you think Max has got up his sleeve for you? One thing I know about Max is he's a psychopath. And so he's going to want to rip my head off, but he's still one of my best friends.

Starting point is 00:54:28 Like we bought each other, you know, he bought me this diamond. chain DC4 chain. Oh, nice, dude. For Christmas, I got him a 98 silver and black chain. You know, like, we're good friends, but obviously, I know my seat. Have you checked the retail value of your chain? I have, I have not just out of respect. You know, of him just buying that gift. I didn't want to know. But you may not be a bad idea to know what that is. Yeah, no, honestly, rainy day kind of thing, dude. You might want to get that thing insured. Yeah, you should get that insured, dude. You got to get your chains insured. I'm pretty sure.

Starting point is 00:55:02 Kerkow's got his chains in shirt, bro. 100%. So I may actually wear that. I may wear that one that week to the game just because he bought it for me. It would be hilarious. Dude, do that. Please. If you wear that chain to the game,

Starting point is 00:55:14 oh my God, that'd be incredible. Okay. Yes. With the Raiders, man, like you still got people you vibe with there when you see them and the whole thing. You spend so much time there. I remember my first year in New England,

Starting point is 00:55:29 we played the Rams. I went back to the Rams locker room after the game. game. Like my boys were like, get back here. And I was like, this is weird, but I'm going back because we're brothers, man. Is that going to be a tough weekend or one you look forward to? And how hard is it going to be to just laser focus on the task? You know, because of, you know, AP's the head coach. I love AP. He was great to me. And I enjoyed my time with him. And, you know, because he's the head coach and there's different people in the building. And, you know, I know, I know Aiden, you know, love Aden, love Devante's one of my best friends, you know, Max, same thing.

Starting point is 00:56:07 You know, like these are these are like my real friends, you know. And so there's no like hatred, like even Raider Nation. Like I love Raider Nation. I still see, I sign Raider jerseys and hats everywhere I go still. And, you know, their love for me is, you know, been unbelievable even since I left. You know, I got people always saying, man, we still root for you. We watch your games. And then we watch the Raider games, you know.

Starting point is 00:56:31 And so like that to me, like there's no like, oh, I hate these guys kind of rivalry. Like it's just going to be like, it's going to be weird. It's going to feel like a practice because I'm so used to seeing them on defense, you know. You know, but this time it's, it counts. And so it'll be, it'll be fun just to go against those guys, but it won't be like a very emotional week for me. So who talked to most trash you in practice that you're going to try to get after? Oh, Max. 100% Max.

Starting point is 00:56:57 Oh, we used to yell at each other. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. That's great. Okay. Um, with, with Rich, man, I, I know it's been a couple years since he had his shot. And I think, you know, they're in a great place now because they ironically have a guy that I think has some similar qualities. But to me, that guy should have a chance to be a head coach.

Starting point is 00:57:18 I mean, I don't know. I'm not going to complain for you, but that call in Sensi, the way you guys rallied, just as a player, I watched. And I was like, yeah, he's got this team. And I wonder if you could speak to like your hopes to see him pop up again or if you think that's possible. Yeah, absolutely. Like everybody on that team, you know, first time with an interim coach making the playoffs, you know, all this kind of stuff. And we had to win like our last four or something like that to get in and all that. Everything that led up to that and the moments that we had and the wins, like he absolutely had the heart and soul of our team.

Starting point is 00:57:59 Like he had us, we would do anything for him. And, you know, going into that next year, I was like, man, I'm going to try and get Devante here. You know, I'll just add Tay to this and like, let's just keep it rolling, you know. And then that's not what they decided. You know, all of us players let it known. We want rich, you know. And that's what we wanted.

Starting point is 00:58:20 But obviously people have to make decisions that, you know, it's not our decision to make. And so, but with that said, he 100% is. as a head coach in this league. He needs to be a head coach in this league. And anybody that gives him a chance to be a head coach would, you know, one thing is your players, you'll get, he'll get the most out of them. You know, he'll get the most out of them. And you would never regret hiring Rich Pasachia as your head coach.

Starting point is 00:58:44 He's one of my all-time favorite coaches I've ever had. Yeah, everybody, every player I ever talked to. Sometimes you think it's got to be that simple, doesn't it, a little bit? If the team's winning and the players love the coach, he deserves a shot. How about this Fuaga kid? Have you guys got to know each other a little bit? Oh, yeah, absolutely. Well, he's one of those O-Lyman.

Starting point is 00:59:07 You probably wouldn't lie. He's just angry, you know, violent. Extra. Through the echo of the whistle. Yeah, extra a little bit. And it's everything as a quarterback you want, you know. Yeah, exactly. You know, you want them to be nasty, you know, a little Richie incognito in them.

Starting point is 00:59:21 You need one of those on every O-line, and I was going to say, Richie would have been the one that came to mind on your Raider teams. That's right. And Richie, again, also a good golfer, Richie. Big guy. Yeah, a pretty funny guy to watch golf. He's just a funny guy in general, man. He is.

Starting point is 00:59:39 But when the switch flips, it's not very funny. Oh, it's not funny. That's a lot of man. A lot of man, strong, strong. And does not want anybody touching me. No. When I was training in Manhattan Beach and my brother was there, too, for the offseason, and Richie was there.

Starting point is 00:59:58 I came home to my apartment one day and there was a loud crash and I was like somebody broken in the apartment and I walk upstairs and Richie and Kyle are wrestling in the living room. And I'm like, guys, we are not going to get the deposit is gone. Like it was like King of course versus Godzilla. I don't even know how to handicap it. Of course. Of course they were. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:00:20 Yeah. It's like this is what they're doing all day. So yeah, you don't even have to tell me and I play with Richie. How about Clint Kubiak and, you know, the change coming? And, you know, you've talked about being somebody who's played for a lot of coordinators, even though you're on one team. What is the most important skill that it takes to pick up a new system and then how excited are you to pick this one up?

Starting point is 01:00:48 Yeah, it's really the time that you spend on it, you know, whether you're here at the building, when I go home, I play with my kids, hit a couple of things. golf ball is for like 30 minutes and then I'm like I got to get back to studying you know and it's you've got to put that time you have to put that time in or else you're going to be behind the eight ball of a Kansas city or a Dallas you know it's you're not just competing against your room it's like we're competing against teams that have been in their system for a while and it's a great challenge for us but the one thing I've learned is it's the time you put into it and so really just being able to become a coach on the field you know especially a quarterback you know I know guys aren't going to know everything well I got to I'm talking with my hands. It's you guys got this, you guys got this in the huddle, you know, just pointing so that it kind of eases some, you know, some anxiety for the receivers or the tight ends, you know, just. And so there was a lot, I've spent a lot of time just trying to be able to get to that level

Starting point is 01:01:41 of excellence so I can help our team get there faster. And so Clint's an amazing teacher. I'll say this about him. He's an amazing teacher. He's an even better person when you're around him. And he holds me to such a high standard every day. like I threw one today. You know, I was like, oh, that's a great ball.

Starting point is 01:01:59 I come off. He's like, yeah, just a little bit. I need it sooner, sooner. And I'm like, you know what? That's freaking awesome because you're going to push me to be trying to be perfect. And so for me as a veteran player, that's all you can ask for. Just keep pushing me. Keep telling me what you need from me.

Starting point is 01:02:13 And I'll try my best to do it. That sounds like a good marriage to me. I thought I did that right. No, it was almost perfect, babe. You know, even when you were riding high, just to give you that little bit of constructive criticism. You know what I mean? 100%.

Starting point is 01:02:31 And the one thing I love about it is like, I don't ever want to be comfortable. Yeah. Yeah. You know, as a player, I've learned, especially as I get older, like, make me uncomfortable, whatever, whatever I've done. So then game day is just like whatever, you know. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Starting point is 01:02:45 What advice would you have for young quarterbacks? Like these rookies now, they got so much pressure on them. I feel like I know who they are two, two, three years before they get drafted. were counting down. What advice would you give them? You were a high pick. You had success. What does it take?

Starting point is 01:03:03 Yeah, I always say this. I was like, you got to, you know, you're going to be praised and you're going to be criticized. Ignore both because neither matter. Right. Like, I don't care if you go out there and you go seven for seven in your team drill. Like, it doesn't matter, do it again. You know, I don't care if you go out there and you throw, you know, two picks,

Starting point is 01:03:22 you know, in practice, you know, like, get over it. It doesn't matter. Keep learning. Keep growing. Keep pushing yourself. And stay, keep that, you know, you got to keep your mindset like I can, I'm the best. You got to keep that mindset of no one can stop me because this game, as you know, man, it can bring anybody down. You know, it's tough. It's hard. You know, we got, you know, we got players talking about football stuff. X players talking about football. We got media. You got this. And it's like, everyone has something to say and everyone's putting their opinions and it's like well which one do i listen to as a young guy and which one it's like you know what whether they're saying good stuff or

Starting point is 01:04:01 bad stuff it's okay like just move on and keep working you know like they're they got a job to do just like you have a job to do and i think that that's the best advice especially for this generation that i can give is you know like one of our one of our young guys he he threw two passes he probably didn't want or you know like i'm like bro who i'm the first one i walk straight to him who freaking care What cares? Rip the next one. You know, that's how you're going to get better. And so I had a guy in Matt Schaub that did that for me.

Starting point is 01:04:29 Matt, yeah. I would make a mistake. He'd be like, dude, who cares? Throw the next one, rip it. And it gave me confidence to just be me every day. And who's the rookie? You got Rattler down there? So we got Rattler and then Hainer was a rookie last year.

Starting point is 01:04:42 You like Rattler a lot? He's a good kid. Oh, yeah. Been bothering you for advice, nonstop, I hope. Asking a lot of questions. Good. We like Rick's a better. questions. As a veteran, you, that's all you want, man. Like just he has so much respect. He's like for,

Starting point is 01:04:58 you know, for what I've done and, you know, the things that I've been able to do, which I haven't done everything I want to do, but done a lot of stuff. You've been there. You've seen a lot. Yeah. And so he should ask questions. Yes. I asked a million. And so to see him be that hungry and see Jake be that hungry, like as a, as a veteran, it just helps our team because I'm like, dude, this is awesome. You know, and they are great people. Um, great. teammates, great leaders. And so I'm excited for their future. They're going to be good players. Okay. Who are some of the players in division when you're in on defense that you're like, that guy doesn't get enough credit or I notice this guy when I turn on film?

Starting point is 01:05:36 Yeah, I would say J.C. Horn is an amazing corner. Now, I know everyone was high on him and he had the injuries and things like that. But when he's out there, man, that guy, the guy's an unbelievable football player. And, you know, I absolutely love watching him play. Jesse Bates, doesn't get enough credit he he had he had a pick he had a pick six on me last year where he was the middle field safety in the red zone we ran a choice route never in my life on a choice route am i thinking about the middle field safety this dude i put my eyes on him he's in the middle i go to throw the choice and he picks it off and i'm like what the heck like no one no one does that you know so well you weren't the only one he he got a few people last year um he's pretty incredible so yeah

Starting point is 01:06:20 Jesse's unbelievable. And, you know, an older player doesn't get enough credit, which of course he gets credit, but I don't think enough. Tell me the team. I'll try to guess. Tell me the team. Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Older player. Well, now he's in Detroit.

Starting point is 01:06:33 Are we talking about the corner? No. I like Carlton. Okay. No, I like him too. Well, Levanté David, to me, should be talked about, like, one of the best players of our generation. 100%. He is unbelievable.

Starting point is 01:06:48 I mean, I've been playing him since college. But he is like the instincts, he's beating people to the ball on the backside that he should not be beating to the ball because he knows the play. He sees it. And like the stuff, you know, you know how that goes, man. Like his Madden rating is whatever. But like, you know, it should be even higher. Yeah. He's like, hey, hey, dude, you, this is a perfect segue.

Starting point is 01:07:10 Because my last question for you is I'm trying to be a damn good Madden player. Okay. I took like 10 years off. that I picked the game up this fall. I've played, don't tell my wife, but like 200-something games. And I love it because what it does is it teaches you the back end in ways you didn't see when you played if you're alignment. I always knew what cover two, cover three. I knew that stuff.

Starting point is 01:07:35 Cover four. Great. I know when we're in man. Okay, rush lanes. Got it. Like, let me put my hand in the dirt. Now I'm learning. So when I'm controlling Derek Carr, and I do because I like playing with the Saints.

Starting point is 01:07:48 Yep. How do I, like the ball snap, how should I look at the field? It depends. Obviously, it depends. That's a big question. But on Madden. Give me, give me, give me, give me all the information of Spencer Rattler. Yeah, yeah, I would say, just find the safeties.

Starting point is 01:08:05 Yeah. Find the safety. Because in Madden, they're going to tell the story. You know, they do. I almost says, Madden does a good job of showing coverages. Like, yes. Like, I know it sounds funny, but I would be like, I would teach guys coverages off of Madden. I've taught my nephews coverages off of Madden.

Starting point is 01:08:18 I'm telling you, dude. They do a really good job. I will give them credit. And so I would say, just see the safeties. And when in doubt, if you're playing with the Saints, it's always okay to check it down to AK. That's always a good decision. I run tons of angle routes with AK. If somebody, and then somebody will be in robber as a reaction.

Starting point is 01:08:37 And then I hit the corner. And so now I feel like they're a car, dude. It's great. Like, it really is fun to play the game. So, okay. So, yeah, I see the safeties. And we'll talk offline. I want to get the whole download on how to beat everybody in the game.

Starting point is 01:08:52 Okay, so. All right, good. Well, Derek, appreciate the time, dude, and wishing you the best of luck this year. And hope you come back after a win, man. Yeah, absolutely, bro. Anything for you. Appreciate you and your family, always. Yeah, likewise.

Starting point is 01:09:08 Hey, y'all, Green Light has official merch, like this hat right here, like the one on my head is Dad Hat. Love this hat. I'm not even a Dad Hat guy, but this thing fits great. This hat right here fits great. We've got hoodies. We've got teeth. By the way, this hoodie's like super comfy.

Starting point is 01:09:29 I mean, it's like soft, plush. It's not the type of hoodie that's going to get stiff with one wash. And the shirts, too, because I'm a big comfort guy. Okay, you got like this white shirt here. You got the shirt with the logo, the Abbey Road looking logo, with Dr. Fax smoking presumably a blunt. Kyle carrying Cowboy Reed, making driveling a basketball, which I've never seen him actually do. And me carrying a football.

Starting point is 01:09:56 And then you've got the black shirt here, too, with the logo. So stickers, hit the link in the description in the video, below the video, actually, and make sure to tag us on social media showing off your green light merch. It's quality threads here, okay? Wouldn't do it any other way. So we're going to play this game. We've been kicking this thing around for three weeks. Matt's been champing at the big.

Starting point is 01:10:21 Oh my gosh. And he caught COVID coming up with this game. No, he didn't come up with this game. Okay. Your boy came up with this game. Oh. Oh, yeah. You didn't know that?

Starting point is 01:10:29 I tried to tell you that. No, Matt's been taking credit for this for the last three weeks. Has he been taking credit for it? A little bit. Well, what he's been saying is, what he's been saying is, I really like this Price's Right game. I really like the NFL.

Starting point is 01:10:43 Am I Walter fucking camp? I hadn't put a period on the sentence. I really like this Price's Right game I've come up with. I think. Show me where I said that. I'll be searching my text messages. I don't know if I have the bandwidth to do it right now. I don't care if he said it.

Starting point is 01:10:56 What I'm saying is we can say we've been coming up with this game. I wanted to play sports prices, right? Because we had nothing to talk about one day. And I was like, yeah, it'd be fun to do it with like sports equipment. And then I got to thinking, let's do some contracts. Because we have no idea what people made in the 80s and 90s. And then we had had sports memorabilia in this thing. Did you find it?

Starting point is 01:11:16 He lied. Well, okay. He left some gray. but Matt Kingston that's why I'm making a Price's right style game for you and Chris that's why I thought it was his game no no that's not him taking credit that means he's going out to get the

Starting point is 01:11:31 he's the producer of the game understood but that's open to and too that's open to shut the fuck up that's open to interpretation I interpret interpret interpretation you need to go to the looney bin is where you need to go dude yeah are you off of benzos yeah are you off no fully on. I like this you.

Starting point is 01:11:56 I'm, I am making a Price's right style game for you and Chris. Not Chris had an idea about a Price's Right game. I don't know, man. Like the people that set up Woodstock, they're like, we're setting up Woodstock. That doesn't mean they started

Starting point is 01:12:12 Woodstock. I agree. Okay. Let's play the game, shall we? And we're going to call it, Price is wrong, bitch. Price is wrong, bitch. It's time for America's favorite pricing game. Cowboy Reed, come on down to contestants row.

Starting point is 01:12:35 Bob Barker, fresh off COVID. Megan Gunter, come on down. Chris Long, come on down. It's time for the first item up to bid. First, we got Michael Jordan's rookie salary 1985.

Starting point is 01:12:52 Cowboy, read, you're up first. Can we look these up while we're... No. $320,000. Making, next bid. Michael Jordan's rookie salary in the year, whatever.

Starting point is 01:13:11 Rookie salary. Yeah, base salary, rookie year. Okay. $212,000. All right, I'll take... What Cowboy say? $3.20. I'll take $270,000.

Starting point is 01:13:29 Cowboy Rear. on the board salary michael jordan 455 000 that's hey good vibes over here you guys are just trying to go lower than me it's fine i'm sure gonna hire what's that after the vibes 455 what's that what is 455 000 equal to today oh i can do that do that i do the machine 1985 bob wants to keep this moving but well what i was thinking was like rookie michael jordan was making i guess i was thinking a rookie minimum in the not too distant pass was like 400k, but he wasn't getting the big salary at the time, one of the biggest rookie salaries

Starting point is 01:14:04 ever. Astronomical even. While Macon's looking that up, we'll do next item up for bid. 455, you say? Yeah. In 1999, Dan Snyder purchased the Washington football team for this amount. Macon, you're up first. I was doing something else. 455 and 855

Starting point is 01:14:22 and 85 is worth a million 147 today. Still not that much money. Okay. Yeah. and Dan Snyder buying the Washington team in what year 1999 oh wow

Starting point is 01:14:35 $350 $350 million Chris $700 million $500 million $500 million Chris gets it it was a total of $800 million

Starting point is 01:14:57 on the board Chris you're up first this one for six bill plus yeah yeah yeah no you know at the end of the day everybody's like yeah Dan Snyder gone, the ding-dong the witch is dead. Now the witch got paid six-X. Chris, you're up first. In 1959, the inaugural Daytona 500 was won by Richard Petty. He was paid this amount.

Starting point is 01:15:20 For winning the race, yeah. Orange ball. Sinking in the water. Gas, pedal sticks carry my car away. I was going as fast as a rambler goes. I was via the speed. from my head to my toes. Oh, now I know how Richard Petty feels. Probably broke in that era. What was he won the what? 1959 Daytona 500. First place prize.

Starting point is 01:15:53 What was the purse? Okay. If I told you that, it would give it away. 75,000. Okay, read? I think it's actually lower, but. How much he made for winning the race? Correct.

Starting point is 01:16:06 $150,000. $1,000, please. Matt. Macon gets it. It was a total of $19,000. $150. I knew it. I knew as soon as I fucking said it.

Starting point is 01:16:18 All right. In 1975, Pele came to America to play with the New York Cosmos. What was his yearly salary? $150,000. Year, please. 1975.

Starting point is 01:16:34 We were just talking to some guys about the Cosmos. They think that there should be more coverage of what happened in that league. That was pretty cool. Yeah, it was. Paylay was just hanging out in the States. It's like the MLS, but better.

Starting point is 01:16:50 $88,000. Would it Reid say again? $150,000. Reed gets it. He made $1.67 million. What the fuck? Holy shit, dude. What year was this?

Starting point is 01:17:04 1975. Yeah, Paley wasn't coming over here for nothing. Where was the Houston Cosmos? New York Cosmos. Yeah, New York. Oh, New York Cosmos. I thought he had said Houston. Yeah, I was in Houston, and I'm going to pay as much.

Starting point is 01:17:22 All right. I wish you'd have to pay me more to come to Houston from Brazil. In 1979, Howard CoSell signed a four-year deal to announce Monday Night Football. What was the total value of his announcer contract? 1979? Mm-hmm. But Macon's up first. Okay.

Starting point is 01:17:40 Okay. All right. it was $3,677,000. Chris? Way too high, player. I think it's, uh, I think it was $900,000. Okay. Cowboy.

Starting point is 01:18:01 $2.5 million. Makin gets it. It was a total of $6 million. My man. Really? Over four years. In, in 1979? Yeah, they paid them a lot of money.

Starting point is 01:18:15 The players weren't making that much money. Nowhere near that. that much money. Hey man, I don't tune in for the players. Unbelievable. All right. Next one up. I got two points. Why'd you watch the Super Bowl? Huh? Why'd you watch the Super Bowl? In 1987, Larry Berg... I don't know, Jim. Is this game over?

Starting point is 01:18:41 All right, go ahead. In 1987, Larry Bird famously threw the ball at Bill Lambere and punched him in the face repeatedly. How much was Larry Byrd's fine? Fifty thousand dollars. Cowboy. Who do you do it to? Bill Lambere. $1,500. Another white guy. I might have gone higher. $49,000. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Oh, no, no, no. All this is our final. That bid was not so smart.

Starting point is 01:19:17 No, no, no. But you were nowhere close. The fine was two. thousand dollars what bill lamb beer was fined five grand for the same event you're getting punched in the face yeah i said 15 by larry bird he said 1500 yeah yeah oh you're right on i was right on yeah yeah for getting punched in the face yeah but had i he started it listen up i'm the story here i was wondering why larry was doing those commercials i had i was a big fine hey had i done that correctly i would have to say 1501 why do you always explain your mistakes just be dumb and just be dumb It's fun. It's fun to be dumb and just move on. I don't know.

Starting point is 01:19:53 Dumb. Fuck. All right. 1971. Hold on. What's the score and who's up? Reed has three, Macon has two, Chris has one.

Starting point is 01:20:01 That's okay, dude. All right. I'd be up right now had I not. Screw it up. Well, you should think about your math more clearly. That is just so you. I'd be up if I hadn't got it wrong.

Starting point is 01:20:13 No, no, no, but like a lot of integrity. Yeah, I fucked up earlier. You don't hear me talking about. I said that was way too hot. But clearly, I had the right. thought in my head. I just executed it poorly. Isn't that interesting? Yeah. 1971, the fight of the century, Ali Frazier, read, how much was Muhammad Ali paid for this fight? 1971, it would have been, he got paid $5 million. Megan?

Starting point is 01:20:44 One million dollars. I'll take $4.99, nine, nine, nine, nine. I can't tell if it's better if he's serious. That's why he's genius. Either way, Macon gets it. The total was 2.5 million for Muhammad Ali. That fight is way more important and profitable

Starting point is 01:21:07 than calling football games in 1979. I don't even know what they, like what's the, it's Muhammad Ali, dude. Well, that's just racist. Why? Howard Goe-Salle's white. Greg.

Starting point is 01:21:24 All right. pretty good. Yeah. One of my favorite. Making Super Bowl 13, Pittsburgh versus Dallas, 1979. What was the average ticket price? Were you on just like 1979.com?

Starting point is 01:21:38 Big smashing pumpkins, fan. Okay, 1979, average ticket price for the Super Bowl. Average ticket price. Okay. Can we do median? That's mean, right? Mean would be average. You know, median.

Starting point is 01:21:53 Yeah, I understand. Give us your answer. Okay. All right. Average, yeah. $57. Chris? $100. Cowboy?

Starting point is 01:22:09 $85. Nobody gets the point because you all went over. $30. No fucking. That's wild. Now see, I didn't know that rule. Imagine if I knew that rule. I have all the answers in my head.

Starting point is 01:22:24 I have potential. Am I going first like every time here? No, we're very long-sighted. We're actually rotated. Yeah. The whole game has been. All right, Chris, you're up. Wayne Gretzky's first contract in 1979.

Starting point is 01:22:38 You got any memorabilia? Fuck. I do, I do. Was worth a total, or was for a 10-year contract worth a total of how much? 1979, yeah? Mm-hmm. You know, my house was built in 1979. 200,000.

Starting point is 01:22:58 Cowboy? No, that was the answer about his house. I think... I think... That's a joke. That's funny. It's, uh, what's down the hill? Yeah, it's over the hill.

Starting point is 01:23:12 All right. So, uh, and I just know how you are. Uh, seven mill. Really? I think I'm right. Uh, four million. Uh, seven million one dollar. Again, nobody gets it.

Starting point is 01:23:30 It was for a total of $3 million. You were all over. Jesus. They were stealing from these fleets back in 1970. 250,000 a year for the great one. Ooh. So the great one was making less a year than Howard CoSell. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:23:47 You're hung up on this Howard CoSell thing. It's fucking highway robbery. Well, network TV. I understand. You can't find these hockey games even today. No, that's true. All right. Michael Jordan's game worn jersey.

Starting point is 01:24:00 There we go. From 1998 NBA finals, Game 1 sold in 2022 for this amount. 4 million. Macon? Which game of 1998? Game one. Oh, not even game six. Okay.

Starting point is 01:24:27 2.27 million dollars. 2.25 million. It's not a bit. We're not going to get it. Not a bit. Reed, you get it. It is over 10 million. 10.

Starting point is 01:24:42 Holy one million dollars. We suck. I suck. Just remember I want a bit more than that. If we were doing a bit, you know, Motherfucker. We were doing appliances, though.

Starting point is 01:24:52 Bob doesn't tell me how to play the game. Yeah. Yeah, but if we were doing appliances, I think. I know. I got sports equipment, too. Do we have like 2024 candy bars? All right. In 1973.

Starting point is 01:25:05 George Steinbrenner purchased the Yankees for this amount. The Yankees. Here I was writing things down. How much? 1973. How many years? How many years?

Starting point is 01:25:21 Fuck a dollar, probably. For all I know. Howard Co-Sells living like a cartel boss. Mahan Ali is getting CT in the jungle. It's 120 degrees. They're barely paying this motherfucker. 38 million dollars Chris

Starting point is 01:25:40 50 million dollars nice good 51 million dollars you are all over 10.3 million dollars godly the Yankees were trash you know

Starting point is 01:25:59 and I wonder if they set the record at that time they probably would have right for franchise sale yeah probably we just don't know anything yeah all right

Starting point is 01:26:12 in 1915 Babe Ruth's salary with the Boston Red Sops This was at the end of his career No, just at the beginning. Okay. Babe Ruth was Dominican So probably Didn't pay him as much. This is

Starting point is 01:26:33 not according to me. The theory from who had that theory? Mero. Mero. Mero. Indeed is the Mero. So the start of his career. Yearly salary. $7,500.

Starting point is 01:26:50 Cowboy? $1,000. $7501. Reed gets it. He was paid $4,000 annually. Fuck's sake. Good night. How much was Howard Cosell making in 1917?

Starting point is 01:27:10 1915. You idiot can't even keep track of the years. You're not even winning the game. I'm losing the game. You're getting beat by one of those idiots. It's a bad game. It's a bad game. Yeah.

Starting point is 01:27:19 See what the. people think. Cowboy, in 1993, Howie Long's total amount of fines for his contract holdout equaled how much? $15,000. That's a year we had to sleep outside. He's probably crewing it like that.

Starting point is 01:27:42 That's probably a pretty good answer, Cowboy. Maybe I'll go something weird, though. Are you texting him? No. I'll see if you can remember after I, uh, one thousand five hundred dollars. You said how much? He said 15,000. 1978.

Starting point is 01:28:11 19, 1990. Yeah. Give me your answers one more time. Come on, player. So Reed said 15,000. Macon said 1500. 1993? Your dad.

Starting point is 01:28:29 16,000. Chris, you got it. It was actually a hundred grand. Jesus, dude. I can sleep outside and shit. He was all mad that year. 1993? What is a selfish guy?

Starting point is 01:28:43 But I will tell you, he wasn't selfish. He was the summer of 93. I can remember we were in Montana and he was hitting a leverage sled all day in the yard by the lake. I was like, just go to practice, man. Yeah. That'd be worth 185K today. Hey, dad, can I talk to you outside for a minute? You ever think about the future of the family?

Starting point is 01:29:02 you know wow 100 grand i hope he got his contract he did okay good making in 1920 george mccaskey purchased the bears why do i always get these amount i don't know i don't know can i pass what do you think i know i have two points 1920 i'm always the first one to go on these on these who bought the team for what 1920 george mccaskey bears can you give me all the other answers No. What side brinner pay? You gotta remember. Why does it take you three times as long?

Starting point is 01:29:36 Yeah. Because you're, because you think being wrong is such a fatal thing for you. It's, you're going to be wrong anyway. Just spit it out. Yeah. I guess maybe I think the,

Starting point is 01:29:47 the, the stalling schick might, might buy me some points in the court of public opinion, you know? Usually does. Though I'm losing. They fall for it. Hook line and sinker at this podcast.

Starting point is 01:30:00 Uh, hmm. $192,000. You're talking about Steinbrenner, right? George McCasky. Purchasing the Bears 1920. Yep, got it. And you said what? 192,000 or something.

Starting point is 01:30:28 I'll go $150,000. Cowboy? 10 grand. Nobody gets it. It was 100 bucks. Oh, for fuck's sake. What a rip-off, you? When you were stammering, I was about to tell you to do it, just do a dollar.

Starting point is 01:30:45 They haven't won it. That's your, you would have had it. Well, you would have gone $2. No. Not necessarily. Yeah, you would. $100? What, from.

Starting point is 01:30:57 $100? From Gloria McCaskey? It was at a time when the league was just starting, the American professional football alliance. Yeah, it was like taking a flyer. Antonio Brown was on to something. What? The whole Cracker of the Day thing? The Team.

Starting point is 01:31:16 Cracker of the day, George McCasky, both theaires for $100. Team E defaulted on already. I want to get you to be Cracker of the Day. All right. All right. Chris. Finally. I'm last.

Starting point is 01:31:34 Frank Brickowski. He's going to think this is easy. Friend of your father's. It's easy. What was his salary during the 87-88? Spurs season when you went to visit him. I'm going to say he was making... $250.

Starting point is 01:31:57 I say million. A million buckaroos. One million dollars and one cent. What'd you say? I said $250,000. $2.40. Nobody gets it. No, I said $2.50.

Starting point is 01:32:21 I know, you're over. I didn't say $1,000, dude. I said $250,000. That was the trick, bro. Did he really? Yeah, that he really, I said 250. Yeah. Did I or did I not?

Starting point is 01:32:33 Honestly, it's the best policy. What did I say? No, he did say 250. When you clarified 250,000, you did not correct him. I don't know about that. No, no, no, but no, you didn't say you said 250. The only thing you said was 250, so it's. Yeah, technically that's the point.

Starting point is 01:32:48 It's a point. How quickly, hey, hold on. Gamesmanship. You don't know this. It's good to be low. Bitch? How quickly can we run back the tape? we're not running back to tape.

Starting point is 01:32:58 So what do you want to find out if we run back the tape? Just get the parameters. If I said 250,000 at any point. Nobody wins. Then nobody wins. If you said 250, you get the point. Yeah. All right.

Starting point is 01:33:08 That's what I said. All right. A little loophole. Clown game. What's the score now? Five to three to three. Who's the biggest dumb ass? With three other side.

Starting point is 01:33:19 With only three left. If it's between you and me, it'd be who's the bigger dumb ass? It'd be compared. Cowboy, in 2003, LeBron signed his first deal with Nike for a total of seven years. How much money? The whole contract, all seven years. 2003, seven year deal with Nike, LeBron's first shoe deal. Oh, I got a story about this.

Starting point is 01:33:45 $10 million. How long is the deal? Seven years with Nike. I bought basketball shoes yesterday. Really? Yeah. What kind? Well, I, well, I.

Starting point is 01:33:55 I went for the jaws, right? Because I can look past the gun thing and my son and him share a birthday and they look okay. Yeah. And then do you have any 12s? Yeah, 12's way too small. Guy in 12 and a halfs, nah, I only do 12s and 13s.

Starting point is 01:34:10 All right, I'll take a 13th, don't have any. Fuck, all right? How about them Janus's? No 13s, okay? That one looks not grotesque like all the others. I'll take those, all right? Those are the LeBron's. And then I had about a 10-second

Starting point is 01:34:23 period of time where I had to decide if I was okay being a LeBron guy or not. Turns out I am. Very comfortable shoe. I played great. Yeah, you just looked past the gun thing with jaw, which I would too, because he seems like he's actually like probably not an evil person. Yeah, and the guns are very small. They're small guns.

Starting point is 01:34:44 There's a lot of people with big guns. Right, right, right, right. He's got small guns. That's a bigger problem. You know what I mean? Like, if he is these big guns. Yeah. I wish I was wearing Jaws when I'm wearing LBJs.

Starting point is 01:34:55 All right, 2003, seven-year deal worth a total of. Stoll stick. And he said $10 million. Okay. I'll say, uh, it's the most hyped athlete of all time coming out of high school. I will say $70 million. Chris, I'll say $11 million. Macon gets that it was $87 million.

Starting point is 01:35:21 Damn close. Any extra points for being close? No. Okay. That was a trivia answer inside the shoe, right? That's how you knew that? They do say LBJ on them. You want to see the shoe?

Starting point is 01:35:37 Pull the shoe up for you. I mean, first of all, they're bad. They're pretty bad. But I didn't want all these bright orange, bright pink, bright, like I'm not a good enough player to be wearing shoes like that. That's the shoe. No! From far away, they look okay.

Starting point is 01:35:51 From far away, they look okay. Did you get a whistle, too? Dude. No. You don't know what kind of clothes I wear on the basketball court. You're never going to be able to wear those shoes. On the court, I wear the shoes. What are the tops in the bottoms and what socks do you pair?

Starting point is 01:36:05 White sock, a white sock to my calf. I think you go. And then I wear a black short. And then I wear a black short. And then I wear a nice like a tan or a green or a blue Lulu tea. You know? Yeah. It's a good look.

Starting point is 01:36:19 I agree. They're not great, but for the people there. It's a black shoe with the white sole. And a gray Nike. This is all the problem. Yeah, gray Nike. There are a lot worse options. You got to go to the Sabrina Ayanoscu.

Starting point is 01:36:33 I thought about it, but there are too many colors in those, too. They got like a good tan. There's a good tan. No, they're not a bad looking shoe. Basketball shoes are tough to do. Dicks, work on your stock. Macon, 1985. Doug Flutie's first USFL contract was for five years and this much money.

Starting point is 01:36:54 A total. Yeah? You're looking for a total. Yes, sir. Five years, $550,000. Okay, Chris. Wait, what? Yeah.

Starting point is 01:37:09 Wait, whoa, no, no, no, no. You put it in. Put it in. I'm freaking out because I don't know why you're all excited. Can I redo? Nope. Nope. I would like to redo.

Starting point is 01:37:22 No, it's okay. I got, I'll do. I know. I would like to redo. No, no, no, it's okay. I'll do $500,000. Oh, that's dumber. $1 million.

Starting point is 01:37:30 Yeah, that's the right answer. Cowboy gets it. It was actually a total of $7 million, making him the highest paid football. I tried to act like back in the day they were all poor. I fucked up. I fucked up. Oh, really? So every time you just don't get it right, you can say I fucked up.

Starting point is 01:37:49 Yeah. Like you had the answer, but you decided not to get the way. Why do you decide to give the wrong answer sometimes? I don't know. That's dumber than not having the answer. Did you just go yearly? you thought it was yearly? Yeah, even though I just asked the question.

Starting point is 01:38:02 Yeah. Yeah. You know, on this TV show, they usually do like, you know, laundry detergent. Yeah, but this is a sports podcast. True. All right, we will do an everyday item for the last one. For the last one. Yes, sir.

Starting point is 01:38:19 Last one. Unless you guys want to keep going. I have a lot more. And do, hey, do five points, right? Because the Cowboys won. What's the score? It is six to four to three. Reed making. In 2003

Starting point is 01:38:31 Dennis Robin bought a hooker in the name. All right. So we have an orange champion sports heavy duty kickoff tea one inch in height. This is me? Hold on. Me? No, I just

Starting point is 01:38:47 start out with Doug Flutie, you fucking cheating bastard. It's you, Chris. T kicking tea. 1999. 1999. I thought this was

Starting point is 01:39:02 Oh, that's the price I didn't sign 1489 There's an answer There's an easy answer Oh I should say one dollar Yeah no I was gonna say something different

Starting point is 01:39:19 But yeah Say whatever you want You didn't have that information in your head That he just gave you Well I thought about just going for the fucking pen And getting it right on But my answer

Starting point is 01:39:30 no I'm not going to do it you probably buy these $1.7. is my answer making gets it it is a total of $8.63 well who the fuck knows what kickers have to buy dude

Starting point is 01:39:43 just get up that's why kickers you don't even have friends to put a finger on top of the football you need a kicking teak 1999 dude I don't know I don't buy this shit dude I bet that he's cheap as fuck

Starting point is 01:39:55 you got to worry about this stuff not me I had written down 599 It would have been my... Back to hockey, a 2024, 2025 ZX5 model Zamboni with laser leveling system. 50,000 dollars in 99. This is my wheelhouse. How many you say?

Starting point is 01:40:16 $50,000 in 99 cents. This is my wheelhouse. American US dollars. Do you know this answer? No, but I just feel like I know equipment a little bit better. But this is a very niche piece of equipment. how fast do you think you could you could clean the ice in one of these things 20 minutes 20 looks like a lot of i'll say

Starting point is 01:40:39 125 000 i was going to be my fucking guess 120 120 120 but i'm not going to do that i'm going to go 125 000 i think this is a very niche piece of machinery with a lot of tech on it Chris gets it is a hundred and fifty thousand dollars. I was a great guess by me and then you just you see him? Bro, only child. Only child. You want to do a study on only children play a game with this guy. He wants every point even when he's wrong.

Starting point is 01:41:12 And when you get the point, he wants credit for the point. I have half siblings. That doesn't count at all. It does not count at all. Making a Fisher athletic brute blocking sled, a five-man, blocking sled that can be broken down into two and three man sleds. That could cost you your life. That's this, this year.

Starting point is 01:41:35 Year of our Lord, 24. Just answer the question. I don't have any earthly idea. Just do what you've been doing in the long game and guess. I'm thinking of like a high school football budget. Every high school's got one of these. Is this a Gilman? No, it's Fisher.

Starting point is 01:41:57 Um, that's, uh, yeah, sure, that one. Okay. I'm not looking at this. I know you're not. I think I know, but. $6,600. Chris? $3,500.

Starting point is 01:42:23 Cowboy. I want to go, man, I want to go $7,000. Cowboy gets it. It is $7,300. $186. I was going to, all right. God, you are just, no. I want to tell you, I want to tell you, the number that was in my head.

Starting point is 01:42:41 Can we go to a shrink? I want to tell you the number that was in my head. Like you and me, not me and my wife, like you and me. Can I tell you the number? What? $7,200. No, no one believed you. I swear.

Starting point is 01:42:51 No one believed you. No, but I'll swear to God. But nobody believes you. You don't believe in God. All right, fair. I swear on my kids. I swear on your kids. I swear on Scott's kids.

Starting point is 01:42:59 Swear on Cowboy Matt's unborn kids. I swear on all your kids out there. 7200 was the number of my head for the majority of the time I spent thinking about this. All right? There's a little performance anxiety. That's all it is. I've got this.

Starting point is 01:43:14 I'm on it. You're in second place. Chris, the P1 Ultimate Racing Simulator, obsessed garage turnkey, triple screen, 85 inch curve 4K, aluminum chassis, custom built liquid cooled PC.

Starting point is 01:43:31 $35,000. $42,000. It's expensive to be a fucking nerd. $13. Cowboy gets it is $58,99. See what happened with me there is I had two choices and I went with the wrong one. You know, hand up.

Starting point is 01:44:06 We're credit for admitting he's wrong. all right what's the score and how many do we have left reed has eight making has five chris has four can do as many more as you guys want you call it you want to end it now i have no problem being in third place but we want to do three more just and just call it after that that's fine too yeah that can give you a chance to get to eight yeah i gives me a chance to leapfrog you let's end it now okay okay okay hey good match fellas good match got you we'll see at the next one all right do i get to spin a wheel

Starting point is 01:44:39 Where's my wheel? See, I had all the answers in my head. I'm very good at this. I was right on that sled. That's impressive. I was right on that sled. Read won the game. Congratulations.

Starting point is 01:44:53 Yeah, congrats to you, Reed. Hey, thank you. Yeah. Y'all take care. We'll catch you next week.

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