Green Light with Chris Long - Doug Pederson! Most Appealing NFL Head Coaching Vacancies, Bonnaroo Lineup & Mailbag.

Episode Date: January 11, 2023

(2:13) - Doug Pederson talks Jacksonville Jaguars in the Playoffs, Trevor Lawrence's Development, the Veteran Presence on the Jags & Jacksonville's Resident Ice Cream Fanatic. (14:28) - Chris & Kyle Talk Georgia vs TCU, Bowling & Outback Steakhouse. (23:27) - Reviewing the NFL's Head Coaching Vacancies, From Most to Least Appealing. (42:58) - Favorite Wild Card Weekend Moments. (55:25) - Mailbag: Favorite Zyn Flavor, Potential Super Bowl Bevil Conway Awards & Bonnaroo Do's and Don'ts. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long:   Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Tennessee, y'all two. 1-8009-9-8789. Welcome to the Greenlight Podcast. Dougie P. today is remotely in Studio J. He jumps on with Chris to talk the Jags' upcoming playoff biz, Trevor Lawrence's development, the similarities with the 2017 Eagles, Jacksonville's veteran leadership,

and a little Hagen-Daz ice cream. After Doug, it is Chris and Kyle Tom. We are talking NFL head coaching vacancies, which ones are the best, which are going to be hard to sell to potential head coaching candidates. And ahead of the 2023 wildcard weekend, we take a look back at some of the best wildcard weekend games. And finally on the end, you all answered the call and submitted some wonderful mailbag questions.

Chris and Kyle run through him. You'll please enjoy today's show. It is playoff time, and I cannot wait for one game in particular. Jags Chargers, Saturday night. I'm excited about this game. I'm excited about it for a number of reasons, but my first. former head coach Doug Peterson has done a masterful job in Jacksonville, turning that team around. You know, I think a lot about, you know, our time in Philly.

And I remember in 2018, we were coming out of the Super Bowl. We struggled. We weren't real good. We were four and six. We turned it around. Great coaches can kind of learn their roster. They can give guys goals. They can kind of redirect players.

They can change the scheme. and teams improve over the course of the season. If you have a really good coach, you saw that with Mike Tomlin this year, for instance. There's been a few teams that started slow and finished hot, and the Jags are one of those teams. If you look at the second half of their season, they beat a number of quality football teams. They beat three playoff teams this year, which is actually higher on the list than you would think. There's not many teams that have beaten multiple playoff teams this year. They finished strong.

They beat Tennessee last Saturday night. a game where a lot of people are looking at Jacksville and they're saying, ah, that wasn't that impressive of a win. But you saw what Mike Vrable did in Kansas City with Malik Willis as the quarterback. He did it again with Josh Dobbs. He muddies it up. He makes it difficult on the opponent. And the Jags found a way through that and into the playoffs. And so I hit up my former coach, Doug Peterson, and I asked, do you have 10, 15 minutes for me on Tuesday between all the the stuff that he's doing getting ready to play a playoff game. And he came back to us and said, yeah, I got some time for y'all before I had to practice. So we got about 10 minutes with Doug.

We touched on a couple of hot topics, one of them being Trevor Lawrence. He's also broken the news on what the Jaguars will wear this weekend when it comes to their wild card playoff game against the Chargers. Kyle, what would you wear? If I were to picture, sure Trevor Lawrence in the wild card it would be in the all black you know what I mean? Me too. We'll see what Doug says. Right? Kyle will be, yeah, all black looks great

and Kyle will be back with us in about 10 minutes. We got a pack show for you. We're going to go through our favorite wild card memories since 2000. There have been a lot of them when you went through them. Some of the biggest best memories in pro football occurred wild card weekend.

The last two years, not as competitive average of 17 points per game in final score difference between the wildcard teams playing since they expanded. So not great, hoping for closer ball games this week. But, you know, if you monitor the Tua situation, the Lamar situation, you could have two double-digit lines going into this weekend, which is not good for the NFL. I'm hoping it's a tighter, a more tightly contested weekend. But we'll talk about that. after Doug. And then we've got some mailbag as well as we'll talk about the most and least attractive head coaching destinations looking at the vacancies going into 2023. So stick around

after Doug and here's my old coach. All right, Doug Peterson here, my old coach. I know I'm excited and I'm not surprised. I mean I when there's a young team and a rebuild starts, you think the time, you know, the clock might be a little bit longer on getting things going in the direction that you needed to go. But Dougie P got these boys rolling. They reeled off a bunch of wins straight. Coach, how are you doing? Hey, Chris, I'm doing well. I'm doing well. Thank you, thank you for having me on today. And, you know, I'll just take you back real quick when I took this job and then back in February almost a year ago, you know, looking at the roster and looking at the team, you know, in the bottom, I guess in the back of your mind, you thought you would be in this

situation, maybe competing, you know, in your division and everything. But, you know, we had that five-game skid there in the month of October that wasn't good. And, you know, you're sitting there at two and six, and then you're sitting there at three and seven and you're thinking, you know, your season's about done. But I'll tell you this. I mean, as much like, you remember our days in Philly, we won that championship, you know, the guys just rallied around each other and, and just kind of picked each other up. And that's what I've seen here in the last month and a half, seven, eight ball games, you know, and, and we've been able to pull out some really good, you know, some good wins and put us, put ourselves in the position for this wildcard game.

Well, yeah, I mean, and in October, they were all one-score games, which, I mean, you don't take any consolation. You're not like, hey, guys, we're close, but, you know, that, that's the reality. It's that close. And a five-games kid could be a five-game winning streak, and you all found a way to win these games. We were just talking before you, we turned it on, like Saturday night was all about finding a way to win, being creative. What's it like playing a Mike Vrable team that you know is scrappy, no matter who's the quarterback, no matter who's hurt, they find a way to muddy it up. How do you get your guys prepared for that game Saturday? You know, and you just, you just hit the nail on the head. I mean, you play a Mike Vrable team.

One, they're going to be, they're going to be well coached. They're going to be well disciplined, and they're going to be physical. You know, he's a former defensive guy, you know, and he's going to have those guys charged up and riled up. And they were. And rightfully so because they were playing for the same things that we were playing for, win and, you know, win and you're in. And, you know, so I was, I was talking to my team about the same thing. This is, this is what you can expect. And and I thought our guys, you know, handled that extremely well. The offense wasn't quite as sharp as we'd like to be. And we got some things to clean up this week. But I thought defensively, you know, kept us in that football game, some key turnovers or some, I should say, some takeaways.

You know, the, obviously the biggest one was the, the Josh Allen scoop and scoop and score on the fumble. you know, late in the fourth quarter. But when you're playing a Tennessee team like that, I mean, that's what's going to take. It's not going to be high scoring. It's going to be physical. And it's the one who can outlast. I think at the end it's going to win.

Yeah. You know, you're going into the playoffs. You're playing Chargers. And, you know, you guys beat them 38 to 10. But I was looking at that score and I was thinking back to 2018. Remember, we played the Saints and they kicked our asses in New Orleans. And then we went up and played them in the playoffs. and we got after them for a while.

Some things didn't go our way. We lost that playoff game. But I wonder if that makes sense when you think about a parallel. Like guys, like 100 days ago is 100 days ago. Like things change. This is going to be a battle. And what playoff advice do you give guys? Because a lot of your dudes have never been there and they're younger.

There were a lot of young guys on our Philly team. But what kind of playoff advice do you give to these guys? Yeah, you're exactly right, Chris. I mean, you know, that's a long time ago that we played. these guys and they're a different football team. There's a few new faces on their roster. We have a few new faces, you know, this late in the season, obviously. And I'll say this, that, you know, the Chargers have been in this situation before. They've, Coach Staley has had these guys prepared the last couple of seasons. And, you know, they got a quarterback with

some experience down the stretch here. And, you know, I've got, I've got a bunch of young guys. But sometimes, sometimes, Chris, what our guys don't know, they don't know. And that can be a positive, you know, and they just go out and play and play hard and play with one another. And, you know, it's my job to make sure that there is a sense of urgency with this group, you know, that there's an attention to detail as we practice and as we prepare. They got to take care of their bodies, obviously. They got to take care of the little things on and off the football field. And those are just reminders that I can give this team.

And honestly, we have a couple of guys, you know, we have a Darius Williams on our roster who won a championship with the Rams. Yeah, he had a hell of the role there. Yeah, and so I can lean on him this week, and I will, and get those guys to maybe talk to the team like we did in, you know, in Philly and just put a little perspective on where we are and what we can accomplish. Your veteran leaders, I know that there's maybe not as many, but who are those guys on your team? You know, you look at Roy Robertson, Harris on defense. You look at Brandon Sheriff on offense. That's right. You know, I look at, you know, Tyler Shatley is a guard for us. Been here nine years.

You know, Rayshon Jenkins has been here a couple of seasons now. You know, and Josh Allen has been here, our outside linebacker. And, you know, Foye O'Locoon's only been here a year, but he's got some experience in this league. But yet these guys, these are the ones I'm going to have to, you know, lean on. And even though they maybe haven't been to the postseason or maybe with other teams they've been there, they're the ones that I have to count on to really inspire the rest of the group and, you know, get them going for the week. And Josh Allen has played some really good ball when it's counted. That guy has been clutch.

I texted you earlier this season about him. I love his game. How important has it been, you know, to see after you guys lost to Denver, Trevor said, hey, enough is enough. And it was almost like he said it. And that's what it was. What has changed for Trevor and how excited have you been watching his maturation in that process with him?

Yeah, you know what? He's really, that game bothered him. And it bothered, I think, our team at the time. We felt like we were in a good position. Probably had a chance to win that game, but we didn't. And, and, you know, it bothered me, obviously, you know, the trip back. And I know it bothered our quarterback. And he took it to heart because he came out the next week.

And I believe we had the Raiders at home the next week. And we got down 17 to nothing in that football game thinking that, okay, this might be the, the real turning point to our season. Like, this might be the end. But, you know, he led us back and put the team on it. us back and we can't, you know, continue to trust each other. And, you know, we got the victory at that point. And that kind of kind of turned our season a little bit, you know, at that particular time. But, you know, it's the way he's really embraced it. You know, he's put a lot more on, on his plate

from the standpoint of preparation and just leading our guys. And it's really good to see from a young player, only a second year player who, you know, in my opinion, has had almost a wealth of NFL experience in two years with everything he went through last year. and of course this year. But he's in a great place. It's fun to watch him. And he's still learning and growing. Last question. It's a two-parter. I know you've got to get to practice. Number one, who is your ice cream guy? Who likes Hagenas more than anybody? I used to cut the line. I used to stand next to the door. He used to call me out. You'd be at the front. He'd be talking to the team Saturday night. You'd be like, see long. I see you there by the door. But Ken Flagell was

right next to me. He was trying to race me to the Hagendaws. Who's your Hagendaws fanatic? this year. I'll tell you what, C.J. Bethard, our backup quarterback might be the one that gets the line early. And then obviously our GM,

Trent Balke, Trent Balke is another one that likes to cut the line with that ice cream. Those two guys, they beat me to the punch. Good man. And then last one,

you guys got, you know, we used to bust your balls and I'd say, what are we wearing this weekend, coach? Are we wearing green? Are we wearing,

you know, whatever it was? What color unies are we wearing this weekend? I want to put a, a bid in, a vote in on all black. You guys just look so damn good and all black. What's it going to be this weekend, coach? It might be the, it might be the teal jerseys with the white pants, which I really like our teal at home. It's a great, it was a great atmosphere last Saturday night

with all the towels and everything in the stadium. So, yeah, teal jersey's white pants look pretty sweet. Out of baby. We'll go get them, coach, man. You're doing great. And I'm so proud of you, man, all us former eagles are texting about it. We're like, look at our guy. And the lettuce looks great in that climate, man. You're moisturized the whole thing. Yeah. The humanity doesn't.

Yeah. All right, Doug. Well, good luck this weekend, man. It's great to see you. Hey, good to see you too. Appreciate it. Thanks. All right, brother.

All right, Kyle. I watched some college football last night. Did you watch a Georgia game at all? Oh, my gosh. What a route? Holy shit. Mattress Mac. Mattress Mac had TCU.

What comes up must go down. Yeah, thank God for the Astros, I guess. and his yeah exactly so in the furniture but yeah like uh george is just it's it's not it's not interesting it's like a different team assumes this this role of um ruining the college football playoffs every year it was bama now it's georgia a david pollock had a moment last night uh in the in the broadcast where he turned to nick savin and was talking to the other people on the on the on the show and he said, Georgia's just kind of taken over college football. They're assuming that role now.

Nick didn't look to excited. Or he was a little bit motivated, but he was a little bit motivated. And so 25, 26-year-old Stetson Bennett gets another title, and now he can go work on Wall Street or something or maybe back up a quarterback in the NFL. There's also a number of prospective draft picks for Georgia. You got to keep an eye on. Last year they lost five guys in the first round of the NFL draft.

Number one picks could be a Georgia guy. You never know. Stetsing could back up a guy who's younger than him in the NFL. Oh, he will. Yeah, he will. That's interesting. If you just look at the youth at quarterback, I mean, I could see, you know, you could see him going to any number of teams.

Yeah, no question. With a young quarterback. But Georgia has closed the book on college football this year. We will talk more to Stanford, Steve, about that victory. and about the landscape going into 2003, but needless to say, the dance floor is cleared for,

as you reminded me, Kyle, super wildcar weekend, not wildcar weekend, super. Super wildcard weekend, because it is super. You know, all these regular season games are amazing, but these are super games. These are super games, Kyle. So we'll give out our

favorite wild card moments over the last 22, 23 years in a moment, but as promised, I figured we'd start the show talking about these head coaching vacancies. First off, I did go last night bowling. I went to, as we call it, keglers. Now it's called Bolero. Oh, it's still keglers.

Yeah, they've gentrified keglers. And I really enjoyed my time. I bowed one game. My arms started to hurt. That was it. Where in the arm? Shoulder, elbow, hand. Romboid.

Where's the wrongvoid? Romboid is a complicated little. muscle in your back. You know, my shoulder, once my trap and my shoulders start to go, then the rhomboid locks up, and it's no bueno for your boy for sometimes days on end. So I bowed out respectfully after I bowled 104, which I think we were discussing what the Mendoza line is for being a shitty bowler. Triple digits, because you get 10 frames, right?

You get 10 opportunities to knock down 10 pins with two throws. I still don't understand the scoring. You know, you get a strike. You get extra turns if you get a strike. Yes, at the end of the ass end. The following frame, you get double the points of it's a strike 1.5 times if it's a spare. That's right. Is it a code break to not wear bowling shoes at the bowling alley?

Absolutely. Really? Yeah. I don't think so. Wear whatever you want. You're not going to wear fucking boots at the basketball. But how much? You could if you want to.

Yeah, if you want to be an asshole. Oh. Well, I was an asshole last night, Kyle. I would expect nothing. Because it was a long way to the desk to go get a pair of clown shoes. And was that rhomboid. Yeah, my rhomboid was out. There were other people at the bowling alley without the bowling shoes on.

I can't imagine Macon wearing shoes that somebody else is worn. No, no. Macon did not wear bowling shoes. And Macon actually won the match. He bowed a 146 and beat everyone. Wow. Gave an opportunity to get in on the pot of $20 a player, and he passed on the opportunity and then won the game.

Was there anybody trying to spin it? No, not really on our team or in our group. The people who can spin it are really impressive. They're really impressive. It's like in golf, if you can make it go to one direction every time, you eliminate the other side of the playing field. That's interesting. I do that all the time in golf.

I can spin it. I'm a big hooker in golf. I like to hit it. I hit it to the left. Oh, Kingston can, you can swing the golf clubs? Oh, no, but you can, you can bowl. I can make it spin it like right to left. You can't?

Trevor Lawrence, or do you spin it like Patrick Ball? Like Baker Mayfield. Pete Weber. He's spending it like Skyler Thompson. Who do you think you are? I am. I am. No, Macon says he's never bowled before and he bowled at 146.

He's one of those I've never. Yeah, and you know, that's, that's his whole schick when we used to play like FIFA and we'd be up at two in the morning betting like all types of stuff drunk when we got home from the bar his move used to be like what are the buttons i don't remember the buttons so he did the same thing with bowling last night that's sandbagging son of a bitch he didn't know how to put his fingers in the hall yeah he was like oh what do i do with these like he so anyways uh he bowed a 146 congratulations making you're and i and i got to hit an outback steakhouse after uh old Bolero closed.

Hadn't been to Outback Steakhouse in a while. Saw somebody delete an entire blooming onion right next to me. 40-year-old man at 10.30 at night eating a blooming onion. So eating the blooming onion without silverware because obviously you eat blooming onions. It's a finger food.

It's a finger food. And you've been in a bowling alley all right. Yep. Yep. Yeah, exactly. Nobody washed their hand. I did not see him wash his hands. Nobody washed their hands.

I did not see anybody. Actually, I'm the only one I think that wash their hands. It doesn't happen. Well, dudes, dudes, they got their three fingers deep in an extra large 14-pounder. This is the... And then the next thing you know, you're at Outback Steakhouse, fingering a, you know, a blooming onion. And you got to think about how many people were fingering a blooming onion

prior to arriving in Outback. So really, it's just the cycle of like crumbs in a hole. How do you mean? Well, people aren't going there hungry, you know. People have eaten throughout the day, didn't wash their hands. Yeah, yeah, that's true. This was a, this was a second dinner for us. Not only just the bowling alley you're carrying into Outback, but the rest of your day.

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Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin. 96 calories and 3.2 carbs per 12 ounces. Okay, so top coaching destinations. You know, we've got five spots that have vacancies right now. Give it to us. Well, we've got Carolina, we've got Indy, we've got Houston, we've got Arizona, we've got Denver, Reads, God's team. And then, you know, I think Sean McVeigh is done.

I think he's retiring. I think there's way too much smoke. I don't think this is an Aaron Rogers boy who cried wolf thing. Sean McVeigh, I think guys are burnt out now. I think it's probably harder to be a head coach now than it was. I think the hours are crazy. I think the media will pick you apart, even if you're in a market like L.A.

where they don't care as much about football, it's still L.A. I think he's had the successes that he's set out to have. I also think sometimes we look at a guy that, like Sean McVane, you're like, you've only been a head coach for a few years. You're young, but look at how long those guys have to work to get to where they are. And so, you know, all that emotional baggage, all that, you know, that time away probably adds up. And now coaches are making so much money that, you know, he can walk away off one nut. Off one nut. And then on top of that, this coach to the booth thing is a well-beats.

and pass. Coach to the booth back to coaching is what I think. That's the Gruden thing. You got to go and get your air. You got to come up for air every once in a while. Yeah. And I think we could see this more. I wish players did this more often. Well, the problem is you can't lose three years of your prime.

No, not three, but I mean, you know, guys could take a year off. Take a year off. If you play for the Houston Texans next year, you're like, yeah, I think I'll go work for CBS. Brandon Cooks is coming for your job, Kyle. For coaching destinations, I think Arizona it might be interesting because I say this because I read that Kyler Murray will have input on the coaching.

So that is interesting. So if you're going there, at least you know that your guy has vouched for you. You know, like, you know. You're not coming there with a bunch of promises. No, you know what? That's a good point, Kyle. Like if the QB has a hand in selecting the coach, you're at least going to be, I don't know, well liked by the QB in the beginning. Yeah.

But you see that stuff go south pretty quick, pretty often. It never works. Yeah, well, a player picks the- Well, Russell Wilson and Nathaniel Hackett, I thought when they were talking about Nathaniel Hackett in the beginning, it was like, you know, it was a play to bring Aaron to Denver. Well, they ended up with Russ. Him and Russ were like buddies, I think, I don't know, I might be making that out.

It sounds right. I don't know. I tried to forget the season. Yeah, you're trying to forget the season. But, yeah, I. We're trying to remember the season. I'm trying to remember. Well, no, some of the stuff was unforgettable.

I do think that stuff is superficial, the, hey, the coach and the player get along, because when the shit hits the fan, winning in production kind of sets a tone in that relationship. But I do, that is a, that's an advantage. Another kind of undercover advantage for like a Carolina is, I feel like Carolina is the top destination because of some of the problems at these other places

with whether it's cap or a trade for Russell Wilson or what have you. If you're the coach that gets the Carolina job, that's probably the first pick for most coaches. You're going to have a longer leash. You're probably a high-profile guy. Say it's, you know, Sean Peyton. Sean Payton's going to have a longer leash in a division that's in shambles.

I mean, Tampa Bay doesn't have a great cap situation. They're not going to have a quarterback. Same thing with New Orleans. Atlanta's in a rebuild. So I think that makes it the best destination. You have four picks in the top 100. You have a top 10 pick. You have a neutral owner.

I don't, I don't need, David Tepper doesn't have one of these reputations. You know, usually an owner that you don't know much about is probably better than the guy you hear talking all the time. Whether it's Jerry Jones or Jim Ursay or somebody that's, you know, that's been a bear to deal with. He did have the blip with the Rock Hill. facility that they tried to build, but he seems like a pretty good owner to work for. Well, that's a good thing, right? Because that was supposed to be an indoor facility and we'll get to the Bears' rendering in a bit.

I would put Carolina one. Indy and Houston, it's closer than you think because on one hand, Andy has a top QB pick. You know, they could definitely draft a quarterback in the top 10. You've got a running back. You get receivers to build around in Pierce and Pittman. You know, and I like their tight ends, honestly. Speaking of our guy from Virginia. Jalani Woods.

Jalani Woods. Matt Ryan could remember. And Moe-A-Cox. You know, they have weapons. Like, low-key, there are some guys there. You have to work on the offensive line. Your quarterbacks were under siege this year. And you have a solid draft and cap situation.

Solid. I mean, you've got to see what happens with Matt Ryan. And it'll be interesting to see, like, the mechanics of how Matt Ryan tries to keep that money that, though, him. I mean, if he retires, no money owed, right? Do you guys have any concern about going in and working with Chris Ballard, who hasn't had a lot of success the past few years? Well, there's that, and there's Jim Ursay. It's kind of a, it's kind of an icky vibe there. I wouldn't go to Indianapolis just because you feel like you're somebody

else's do boy. Like you said, Ursa is involved. Ballard makes decisions, and then Ballard gets trumped by Ursay. Yep. And then you're sitting there wearing the shit on your face. Well, I wonder like how high profile a guy it would have to be to feel like the big man in the room in indie because you know like jim's personality is so big Chris ballard survived this it would need to be like yeah it would have to be like that now Houston I'm I mean same division here right so there's two two two teams in the AFC South looking for coaches there's one one team and you're chewing on one of the things that's attached to the microphone now uh Why not? Why not?

So, two coaches in that division are out of jobs. You've got the Jags who are ascending. You have the Titans who are descending. But still, yeah, but a high floor on that team. Houston, they've got two top 15 picks. You've got five in the top 80. You have 12 total in the draft coming up. You have 50 million cap space.

You have the number two pick. Which, you know, how you got here is fucking, it's, it's frustrating. But maybe the Bears draft the position player won. Maybe they fall in love with Will Anderson. I doubt it. I think they're going to recoup a bunch of picks for the first pick. But maybe Houston. They needed a game-changing edge rusher or an interior guy.

Yep. The guy from Georgia. A guy from Georgia. Maybe Houston is not in love with Bryce Young. which would render this whole situation possibly a moot point. Like maybe somebody's trading up to snag Bryce Young and they like Stroud. You have Stingley and Pierce, young guys who made some noise this year. And nobody expects anything.

The only thing is like you have to have self-awareness. I feel like when you go into interview for the Texans job, because if you're not like a high-profile guy, you might be another one here rental. It's just how they're doing things. Why would you think they would do a third guy for one? It would look so bad organizationally if you have three one-year hires. I don't think they care. I do think they're probably going to go try to hire a guy now.

They're in position to do what they set out to do, however you feel about it. But Houston and Indy, I mean, either one. I don't know. They're very different situations. Arizona, you mentioned it, five picks in the top 100. You have a solid cap situation. One thing to watch there is who's going to be hired first, the GM or the head coach. because that often signals who's going to make the decisions.

How do I say? Hierarchically. Hierarchical. God damn, that's a tough word. Hierarchically. Hierarchically. There's a reason we don't say that word much. It's a tough word.

Hierarchy. But Ian Yates, Cunningham, our guy who's working under Ryan Poles in Chicago, has an opportunity at that job. I know his name's been mentioned there. Good for him. Yeah, his name's also been mentioned in Tennessee. I think he's going to be a great GM one day. Peyton Manning went to become a Colts head coach.

Well, I know that they want Peyton back in the building, which Robert Mathis claimed. This was interesting. Robert Mathis claimed when we interviewed him in Vegas that one of the angles of bringing Jeff Saturday back in was try to get Peyton to come home, you know? Fucking bait in the water. Because he gets so mad when Saturday calls the plays? Yes.

Yeah, exactly. On the sideline. And now watching on TV. He's like, Jeff, you fucking go sit down, Jeff. He's calling fucking plays. He's called plays. And then lastly, and I honestly think this could all be flipped on his head. The Rams, that's probably a vacancy.

They've got no quarterback. Well, they have Matt Stafford, but I don't know he's going to come back to facilitate a rebuild or be a bridge. They have bottom five cap space. you've got some really good players that you could trade you could move you could move aaron donnell i've said this for months now move aaron donald recoup maybe multiple ones for jalen ramsay same thing a bunch of picks for arin donald erin donnell has a no trade clause so he might want to go to a contender he definitely wants to go to a contender i'm sure if he were open to it i mean i think a home coming to pittsburgh would be awesome i think with with the uncertainty

of the Fletcher Cox situation. I think Philly could be fun. I don't see him as a Dallas guy, but you never know. I don't see him going to Minnesota, but you never know. I don't see him going to Seattle because that's, you know,

I don't see them trading him in division. But those are some names that kind of came up as I was jotting things down. Chicago, you're joining another rebuild. And I don't think Aaron Donald at that age... They're going to be so hot in two years. Yeah, they might be. And who knows if he's over it?

He might be over it. But, you know, like, you know who's hot right now, the Philadelphia Eagles? You know, the Steelers could be hot next year. Imagine that D-Line with Hayward, Watt, Donald, and Highsmith. That'd be the best D-Line in the league. It'd be disgusting, quite frankly. And then Ramsey, he does not have a no-trade clause, I believe. And Houston and Chicago has a ton of picks.

The Giants need corner help. Kansas City could use it. You never want to rule Philly out of any trade discussion. Buffalo and the charges could use corners. I know that they've been trying to address, you know, issues there. So when you look at the Rams, sure, you could rank them five or six, but if you have a coach that has the assurances and the clout that, like, hey, this year doesn't count, you're going to collect a big check.

We're going to try to bridge out there. We are going to suck so much ass. We will suck, but we're going to suck ass together. We're going to do this as a group. And then next year, And then next year, we're going to draft a Caleb Williams, and he's going to stay home in L.A. And we're going to roll because we're going to have all these picks now.

We're going to go from having no picks to some capital as a result of moving some of these pieces, and we can start over. So I think the Rams, you look at that and you look at Indy, you know, less need is a really good GM, love less, staying cronky, but you know you look at india and you look at the rams you will live in indianapolis or do you want to live in in you know in Brentwood some coaches might think hey i'll take the money

in l.A. and sit through tanking for a year and and all the sudden in a year this this vacancy might have a bunch of draft capital to play with so i don't know i don't know if trading ramsie and and and don't know or even one of the two would even get them back to equilibrium. I think trading both of them would put them above net neutral, actually. And that's how this process has to go. You know, if you're going to say fuck them picks, there has to be a scenario then when you recoup them.

And, you know, once the mushroom cloud starts, you got to sell high on some of these players. And so I think it's interesting trying to consider who might be a candidate for these jobs and who would be attracted to some of them, like the Rams They already won, right? I mean, they won the Super Bowl. That trophy's not leaving anybody's house.

No, this is part of it. It's not coming off of Aaron Donald's Hall of Fame resume, but like you said, it's part of the fucking... It's part of the deal. Arizona, I would think, once an offensive coach. You know, the objective is to fix the offense and to make Kyler Murray run an NFL offense. What they were running under Cliff was not an NFL offense.

They were running this fucking some derivative of air raid where Kyler had to do a million things, like simplify things, reel him in, get him to work. Houston, I would think you probably, you're probably agnostic

on which side of the ball you go with. Carolina, I just feel like it's, it's offense, but a lot of times, teams go opposite. So like, hey,

they just fired Matt Rule. Well, now we might want a taste of a defensive head coach. You know, Indy, we had Frank Reich. Maybe we go with a defensive head coach. And you might see Frank Reich or one of these coordinators pop up in Arizona or something like that,

especially if you line up a defensive head coach. Houston, as I said, could go either way. Indy could probably go either way. Is it a bad sign that you haven't mentioned the Broncos yet? The Bronco yet is a bad sign that I haven't mentioned the Broncos yet. I wanted to give Reed that breakdown. But the Broncos, it all hinges on what you think about if you can fix Russell Wilson, whatever's broken with him, man, because a year ago, this seemed like

a slam dunk to a lot of people. It seems scary. They seem like Super Bowl contenders. Everybody's AFC West rankings were so drastically different at the beginning of the year. And look at it. I mean, the receivers have supported Russ through late in the season. Like some of the tweets, some of the comments have been, hey, this is our guy. He's the future for us. You know, despite the frustration, despite the losing, I still think there's some sort of kind of optimism there in a strange way because I just think Nathaniel Hackett was such a whiff

and he'll probably end up back in Green Bay collecting a nice check. Or maybe coaching Jordan Love. Or maybe he goes with Aaron Rogers somewhere. You know? He could use a nice spiritual journey. But I think Denver is positive when you look at it is that they have an owner

that can pay you a fuck ton of money. And the end of sunshine. And what? Yeah, 300 days of sunshine. And they could also... All your plane rides go straight down. Yep. Dallas is a job here that we're not talking about.

But I know Jerry Jones said the wild card will not impact how we evaluate Mike McCarthy. But he also said in the finer print that like we're evaluating a lot more than the wild card round. So it's not like he's saying like Mike McCarthy's job safe, you never know.

Well, and if you know you're going to lose Dan Quinn, which it seems like they would. Dan Quinn is a Denver is a Denver pick for me. You know, I think bringing in a defensive head coach working with the, you know, the talent you already have on defense. Randy Gregory's there. Randy Gregory, a bunch of guys that really like Browning. You've got the safety's a hell of a player. Justin Simmons.

You've got the young linebacker, the rookie rusher. Benito. Benito. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so there's a lot of pieces on defense there. As you mentioned, you might want to try to retain the DC, but if a DC comes in, maybe Averro is somewhere else. Right.

I think Dan Quinn's a, and another thing you can do with a rich owner is you can convert, instead of paying salary, you can go bonuses. So you can kind of play with the cap a little bit more that way. And you can hire a staff. You can hire, yep, you can hire a staff. You can pay the fuck out of a staff. So Denver's a wildcard to me, you know, but I think the most attractive job is probably Carolina on paper,

followed by Houston or Indy. And, you know, like, you can throw Denver. If you're in love with Russell Wilson, you just feel like, hey, I know what the problem was last year. Like, there's some coach sitting at home, like, I've been watching Denver all year, and I can fix this. This is easy. Yeah.

So if that's the case, Denver could shoot to number one. You know, because who wouldn't want to live in Denver? That's coach God's team. And that is the bane of a lot of the coaches exist. Yeah, hubris. Hubris. Okay. So that's sufficient on the coaching vacancies.

I know Monday was the day where a lot of them got axed, Cliff Kingsbury included. Also good on the Cardinals, you know, like Steve Kime takes a leave of absence for his health. You know, we're thinking about Steve, and I hope he's okay. but more than anything, what this does is it gives them an opportunity for a clean break

even though they just extended these guys through like 2027. You know, it gives you an opportunity to bring a guy and it's not like maybe I don't want or receive time, like it's a blank slate. And it shows commitment to winning, you know? You're not going to just sit there and ride out these contracts. Cash app.

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I'm going to give you, ah man, my top five moments since 2000 that occurred. Wild Card weekend um golly it's tough man it is tough there's been a lot of really great moments I guess number one for me would be uh

I'm gonna take double doink out because you and I are sitting together right now terrible it was a bad moment because it didn't really amount to anything for us heartache just heartache for everyone

and hatred Ashton Coucher was mad yeah he was in the locker room all or in the tunnel all mad. Like I met Ashton Coucher with. He's a huge Bears fan. Yeah, but he was like legit mad. He's a bigger bear fan than me. Yeah, probably.

To this day. And I've got, I think number one is probably Tim Tebow, read. I think it's Tim Tebow. I think it's 80 yards, one play. Off the back foot.

Demarius Thomas. Rest in peace. Rest in peace. You know, this was 2011. I remember where I was for this. I was in New Orleans. With AJ Feely, we were at the college national championship living it up.

This is eons ago. It's 2011. Had no responsibilities. I was drunk all day. Took a nap, woke up with a hangover during the second half of the Steelers and Broncos game. And Tebow threw for like 300 and something yards on 10 completions. One of them being this 80-yarder in overtime. And everybody walked up.

It was the first play overtime. It was the first year that they had the new overtime rules. So, you know, like it didn't matter because they scored first anyways. It was a walkoff, but it was the first play of overtime. And everybody on the Steelers defense was walked up. Six yards in front of the line of scrimmage. And, you know, I just remember it happening and it's just being over like that. And the Tebow mania thing just took off.

I remember that such a huge moment. So I go T. Oh, no. Hold on a minute player. Hold on a minute player. I have a new number one. I got number one. It's the Beesquake.

Yeah. Beesquake 2010. Courtesy of the 2010 Rams, 7 and 9, or whatever we were, we were playing to go to the playoffs against Charlie Whitehurst infamously. Charlie Whitehurst beat us up in Seattle. So there go the Seattle Seahawks to play the Mighty Saints. And because of being a division winner, and the way that goes, they're hosting a playoff game,

and the Beastquake is just one of the most iconic moments in NFL history. So that's number one for me. I'll go Tebow, number two. Three, I'll go, we want the ball and we're going to score. We talked about that earlier with Al Harris. Al Harris picking off Matt Hasselbeck. That was big. I mean, it was when mics were at the center of the field.

You could hear what players are talking about. Yeah, it was an epic moment. God damn, dude. The Music City Miracle. That was mine. That was mine. The Music City Miracle's in here. Frank Whitechette.

The music city miracle. The thing about the Music City miracle is it wouldn't count today. It was inconclusive. It wouldn't count today. Apparently they did have replay at the time and they didn't overturn it. Isn't that crazy? And he said it was inconclusive. But they would overturn it today.

They would overturn it today. There's too much scrutiny. Quality of the replay has gotten better. Quality of the replay, the whole thing. So I'm going to put that number one. I'll put Beastquake number two. I'll put Tebow number three. I'll put we want the ball and we're going to score number four

and then five I'm going to go Marriota's comeback in Kansas City that was that was wild and you know there was a play in that game where he threw it to himself off of somebody and scampered in the end zone yeah so one through five I'll give you those five honorable mentions

I'm a minor on there I'm going to go number three will be Hasselbeck Yeah. Number two will be Music City Miracle because, I mean, as a young kid, seeing that play. It's incredible.

Oh, my God, did that just happen? One of those, I remember where I was when it happened. And I'm reading up here on a list of wild card games that I may have missed. The one that came up that was impressive when I'm looking at the stat line is Arizona 51, Green Bay 45, overtime, 2009. Carlos Dansby.

Over a thousand yards of offense in a game feature. to Packer comeback from 21 points down in the second half. Defensive touchdown won the game in overtime. Carlos Danesby returned Aaron Rogers fumble for a touchdown in overtime. He kicked it. Aaron Rogers tried to kick it out of bounds and Danesby caught it

in midair. I was at Kegler's for that game. Danzby was involved in three were you? Yeah, I was always, I was never with my team because we had always gone home, so I remember where I was for all these and we weren't. Caglers. The game set many records, 96 points were the most combined points in

playoff game, 1,024 yards were the most every round. Okay, I got one for you an honorable mention, 2013 in the same vein, Chiefs, Colts. It was Andrew Luck and Alex Smith, two number ones, a thousand yards of total offense in that game. It was 50,

you know, it was 49. 49. 45, 44, that was a 28 point comeback. 28 point comeback for Indy. And just this was peak Andrew Luck. No doubt. This was like, when you remember Andrew Luck, I remember this game. and I was in Vegas with Sam and we were walking through Keglers Vegas.

I move around and watching that in the sports book was incredible. I also want to mention Kyle Williams going to the playoffs in 2017. They didn't win that game, but it was the week prior where they actually got in. In the locker room. There were tears. There was, you know, it's just now you think about Buffalo, you think about a contender, you know, just how quickly that all changed. But in 2017, they hadn't been in a long time.

And, you know, somebody like Kyle had never been. And so seeing him getting in was awesome. I also want to throw in the Blair Walsh missed field goals. Now, at the time, I didn't like that very much, because that was the Seahawks. And it was just like, I felt like the Seahawks got every fucking bounce. Whether it

was the on-side kick against Green Bay, whether it was playing Denver, I don't know why I'm... You know what? That was a good break for them. They still get every bounce. Yeah, they do. extending to current the Seahawks. Yeah, they do. They do.

They get that call at the end of the game. Not that it mattered because they missed the field goal. And all the calls previous throughout that game. They get the fail-marry. They got the fail-marry. Yeah. The Seahawks are the luckiest team in the NFL for serious. 100%.

I mean, they got Gino Smith to play like, you know, Joe Montana this year. He set all the Seahawks regular season passing records. Yeah. They did lose the Super Bowl that they were like 99% sure to win. That's true, but that's their fault. That's karma. That's their fault. Can I get an honorable mention? You and I hate the Seahawks, huh? 2003, Niners 39, Giants 38. Terrell Owens went nuts after Michael Strayhan was talking trash during the game. It was probably peaked-to-e-o. Was that the Trey Junkin game with the bad snap?

Oh, I remember what you're talking about. I believe there was a special team's gaff at the end of that game. You know, I want to mention the boat trip, 2016. That was a great wild card moment. That was the weekend before the wild card weekend. This is the Giants' first appearance since that picture. A bunch of dudes and Tim's on a boat. Just hanging out. Were there Tims?

Yeah. Oh, there were Tims. Not many shirts. Yeah. When you're doing construction, but you want to look sexy. And yeah, it was. Yeah, so it was a Trey Junking game. So 2016, the boat thing, which got turned into a big,

deal and then they lost their playoff game against green bay i think it was um i remember sitting in my room and pulling for the giants so that they'd win so everybody would shut the fuck up about going out on a boat because guys do things with their off weekend yeah you know this was peak obj hysteria like everything he did it just drove white people crazy yeah like they just want to know it just drove people crazy dude uh there's something about hobi j i also want to mention 2015, the Steelers Slugfest with the Bengals, when AJ McCarron was starting for the Bengals. The only reason I say this, I blame this, this, this game for getting me among the drunkest I've been in my adult life. It was just such a slobber knocker that I just kept hammering drinks.

I was in Virgin Gorda with my lovely wife. She was pregnant with Whalen. And I returned to the room that night after going to a, um, any bar would do but I went to the bar that looked the best in Virgin Gorda and thankfully unlike a Luther, they showed the NFL and came back to the room

that night and pissed in the suitcase in the corner of the room woke up in the morning and Meg was so fucking mad can't imagine why well I mean is it that big of a deal I mean it's my suitcase

was this end of the trip or being towards the end of the trip? Okay, so we had already worn most of the clothes in the suitcase, right? Yes, I thought it was inconsiderate to be so mad at me. It was so inconsiderate to be mad at me because I was so hungover. You know, I set up this really nice trip. I'm not in the playoffs.

I'm sad. I'm watching the Bengals. I'm watching Ryan Chazir just decapitate people. And I got a little drunk. I got a little into it. It was Steelers Bengals, man. It happens. I am but a man.

I've peed in some places. Yeah, exactly. What's the weirdest place you've peed? I don't remember. I'm never reminded of it. All right, Mark Sanchez beating Peyton Manning. That's a good one. That's a great one.

That's 2010. It's like how drunk is football? And how great is it that Mark Sanchez always gets... There's an ad recently. I think on Peyton's places, Sanchez and Peyton. Yeah. And Sanchez is actually giving Peyton shit. And I love that so much.

You can't take that away from Mark Sanchez. The one wild card game always remembers when Romo botched the snap on the field. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I only remember it for that one play, but it was like 21, 20, Seattle, 2006. That was to win it, huh? That was like his first or second season.

Yeah, Kyle was 2006? I was in high school. Yeah, that's why he was still holding the kicks because he had still recently been the backup quarterback, so he was on the kick hold package. 14. Time is a flat circle, Kyle. Wow. And another thing was Al Harris, who picked off Matt Hasselbeck in the aforementioned pick six.

We want the ball. We're going to score. Eventually was my teammate. And I just wanted to say that because I love Al Harris. And he was old as fuck, dude. And he would fall asleep on the fucking bus. And I'd take pictures of him. I would arrange him like he was like Photoshop him.

He'd wake up and I'd send him the picture because he just was so damn old. I mean, he was like a relic. I was like, damn, you're almost 40, and you can still play. Al Harris was one of the coolest vets of all time. If you're here in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Tennessee, or right here in Virginia, and you haven't tried the WinBet app yet, I have great news for you. Sign up today to receive this special offer. New users can take advantage of WinBet's bet $25, get $50 in free bets. Winbet is basically giving you free money.

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Tennessee, y'all 2. 1-8009-9-7-89. We're in the main. mailbag. I just stepped in there. I like that. Yeah, because it's a different show now. This is my favorite thing to do is the mailbag. That's what you wanted to show up and do like an hour of,

but now you got to go home. Why do you got to go home? You know? Kid tell me, though. Tell me why you go. I love giving my daughter a bath and helping her get our or helping my wife get our daughter dress because that's a fucking wrestling match. Yeah. She's an actual avatar

and not like the like the skinny kind. Like I'm talking like the shredded. fucking ready to do pull-ups, kind. Yeah. It's hard. Yeah. I like to be there to help, and we read, we read books.

We put out three books on the Ottoman after we get her already. Call your daughter. And we say, call your daughter. Pick a book. She picks a book and then we read it. Call your daughter.

Tell her. We're doing a little mailbag. No. Might be seven minutes late. I can't. Seven. That's not how we operate. Give you a raise.

No. Seven is not how we have. $7 a minute. Come on. It's $49. We're burning daylight. Okay. There's a valiant.

This guy's like Derek Carr. Can't stay for the whole season. Oh, my God. First things first, Colin, I forget to tell you this out of the Doug Peterson interview. But I regret to inform you that the Jaguars are wearing white pants with teal jerseys. Stop. I know. No.

It's not what we wanted it at all. It's not what America wants. white pants with teal shirts yeah looking like an e u baseball team emily radikowski cares fuck the jack no even emily radikowski cares everyone cares there's not i walk down the street pull 10 people 10 people would say wear all black it's got a pool in your stadium not to wear they pointed that you got a pool in your stadium it's fucking dark outside i got questions about that water anyways a little disappointed

it's the only mistake Doug's made all year how is Doug he's good he'd let us look great he's yeah he's he's not the best looking tool in the shed but what do you mean Kyle the guys would steal everybody's

he's a fucking dude when chicks see Doug Peterson yeah they think he's a human Labrador retriever that's what I mean but hot no he's hot no see like I love the Labrador retriever thing because

everybody loves a lab. Even if they, you know, they got the neck and you can shake my family right now. Shake the neck like this. And they love it? Yeah, it's like, I feel like you could just do that. That's what they want to do to Doug. Reed is Doug Peterson hot?

A little, you know, gray foxy, right? You know, he's a little older, but he has some experience. I put him in the John Fox category of do not. John Fox. Not to be finished. No disrespect to John Fox. He's a great man and a great coach.

Let me finish. I put him in the John Fox category of he's way, these two guys are way too smooth. You can't leave him alone with your people. Smooth. Yeah, but not, they're good men. But I'm,

no, but I mean like. But if you didn't know him, you'd be like, damn. They're smart. Look at the way that he turned around the Jaguars. Imagine what he could do, you know. Yeah. In conversation.

Guy knows the game. Been around the block. Knows how to clock manage, all that stuff. Laver door. We're going in a mailbag. All right. Shot A.

shot a is the layup line day Kyle yeah we have a couple shoday songs that we were listening to we were just coming off of no ordinary love oh it's such a good song one of the class now chat to our dad not everybody had dads that yeah that played shot a in the tape deck

in the red suburban the red bourbon when we were in the red suburban it was shot a when we were in the boat it was Bruce and Bruce Springsteen Tunnel of love tunnel of love yeah uh huh

my tunnel of love I knew that one yeah you know that one boss but Matt and Reed Matt and Reed didn't know Shade what was the first smooth operator Smooth operator They didn't know them and and then I was like

Hey do y'all know Shade And Matt even said new music I'm not good with Yeah man Learn history You used to teach history Shade was not in the curriculum Before Shade was not in the curriculum

teacher. Shadee should be in the curriculum. God damn icon. Show you a picture of Shade A now. Shot A in the 90s, same picture. If you took Laura Robertson's Afro-American lit in history, then you would have learned about Shade. But that didn't come around until you got out of St. He was teaching Cacazoid history.

Yeah, you were teaching cocazoid history over there. We know smooth operator by Big Daddy Kane, just not. Okay. That's good. That's out of my jurisdiction. I suggest you guys go down the rabbit hole is all I'm saying. Actually, learn the entire album where your jobs are on the line. I think I'm fucking around.

They're going to be writing think pieces about me. Media, mogul, fires, staff over Shade, Blindspot. Hey, mogul would be a strong word. I just was trying to use. Alma brothers derails commander's season. Yeah, exactly. It kind of did. I hope I don't get cursed like Taylor Heineke, not knowing.

IJS. No, yeah, I don't think this curse works the same way. I just think you don't get any girls in here on out. So basically the same. Sorry to say. Hey, I was going to ask, off the shot A thing, what's the most nostalgic album or piece of music could be a song? that brings you back to like a long time ago very strongly or a moment okay so I had a friend

named Patrick Wilson I used to go to his house all the time he had two sisters and they would watch MTV they were older than us and they were cool and they were cool they were cool like cool angsty teens and we were the young like little grunt idiot like friends yeah and they were watching the music videos one day and Eve six inside out yep you know that would swallow my prize. Yeah. Mm-hmm. That music video, for whatever reason, I can distinctly remember sitting out on their farm or

watching that music video and being like, what a strange fucking... Did you like it? I did, but I didn't understand it. I was too young. I must have been what? Nine. I was thinking there was going to be like a Little League baseball story. Well, Little League Baseball.

High school baseball, we've got John Deere Green is a song that Tyler Campbell, Ryan Caldwell, Trump, right, myself. We would make sure it played during pregame war. What did it read? Billy Bob loves Darlene Darlene Yeah

Charlene Was it Charlene? Billy Bob loves Charlene And letters three foot high And the whole town said The boys should have used red But it looked good too Charlene

Charlene Not Darlene It was Charlene You don't think There's not a lot of young Darlene's walking around There are They're out there

No it's more of a Charlene You gotta get out to Free Union Charlene there's a great song By Anthony Hamilton Called Charlene So a great song. Which is a great song.

Woke up this morning and found a letter that she wrote. Hey. She says she's tired that I'm always on the road. Too hard to swallow. Being alone. She ain't someone a night that you can hold. Hold. What about you, Matt?

I must have told her a thousand times. Okay. We're not going to do the whole song. Nostalgia. I used to listen to the, the LP of the Rolling Stone's sticky fingers, like on a record, the actual record. Fingers. That is the most hipster nostalgic memory.

He's like, we were listening to vinyl. Yeah. That's good. That's a fucking great album. I just learned how to use vinyl like last year. Weezer came out in 1996 or 95 or whatever it was, and I was listening to it on my disc man in the cafeteria and this girl, we were in fourth grade or something like that. I don't know if the years line up, but Duky was also big at that point.

and there was this girl that sat down and she was like one of my friends that was a girl, not a girlfriend, and she was telling me in like three guys about her period. She got her first period. And I will always associate Weezer with menstruation. Were you like, say it ain't so?

Yeah, I was like, damn, I had no idea that happens. You did the whole mile today like that? Like honestly, St. Louis Memorial Award retroactive. Because nobody knew. She didn't know. She was like, what's going on? The first thing she thought

to do was to come tell me and Adam Carlson at the cafeteria. I'm just trying to listen to my fucking disc man. Now heavy shit. You know? If you want to destroy my lunchtime, come tell me about a period.

Anyways, male battery. So to deal with that trauma, let's ask, what's your favorite Zen? Oh, menthol. Wintergreen. No, I get the wintergreen when I dip. You know, I don't want the wintergreen when I... I like consistency.

Yeah, menthol. And sometimes if I go from wintergreen to mint, then I feel a little upset in my tummy. Somebody actually asked, the exact question was, uh, what flavor of Zinn should they invent? Like, what, like, watermelon? Orange. Salted caramel. Orange. Salted caramel, Kyle.

Ugh. I can't deal with the coffee. one. Anything coffee flavored is great. They've got all the stuff that makes you go like you know cooling I guess. Maybe it's not that good of a question. Is there

a Zin flavor though that you tried and it surprised you? There's there a number of them out there right? I haven't tried enough. Maybe if the viewers would send some in we can taste test. We'll do a full upper decker. We'll do a full upper decker.

You got it because you're supposed to put them up top. Oh, okay, yeah. Because there's no spit there. I don't know. There's no saliva there. That's interesting. Up top doesn't create saliva, I don't think. You're a smart boy. I think. You really are. I learned a lot for me.

I had an O-Line coach that told me that one time. He's dead. He's not like you. Damn. Yeah. Sorry to hear that. But he was smart enough to identify the mic. You think he would like Zinn? Oh, he would love Zinn.

Yeah, all O-Line coaches are. probably heavy on the, because you know who dips the most in America? O-line coaches. Football coaches. O-line coaches are up there. Yes. Non-stop. That was from Fanta Fanatic. Oh, nice, thank you. I love Vanta.

Don't you want one, Kyle? That's another nostalgic music right there, those commercials. Yeah. Also, music. Remember MTV, Summer Slam or whatever? Yeah, sure. Summer. Yeah.

At Farmington Pool. Yeah. We'd be in there. Yeah. I've eaten chicken Caesar raps. watching whoever the fuck was hosting being like those guys look like they're chicken Caesar reps yeah I still eat those

yeah I used to watch total or total request live at the same place request live the basement and we would watch that at home rap city rap city rap city this big ticket the basement yep what is the Mendoza line for a player who can ask for an Aaron Rogers jersey

well the first thing we need to do is establish which position like if we're going to make a metric here. We need to use a position, right? Right. So let's use quarterback. Okay. Quarterback. I think anybody who's started a long time in the league and played him

a number of times, you're okay to do that? Yeah? Yes. So Ryan Tannahill's fine? I think Tannahill, if they had a history or they knew each other, a lot of times guys are like trading jerseys because they went to high school together. I think the Mendoza line.

You think Tannahills the Mendoza line? Yeah. Okay. Rookies or players in their first three years in the league. I think if it's somebody in the division and you started against them multiple years, multiple times, if they were to ask for a jersey because they could see it as you're done. I'd like won a jersey from Aaron Rogers at some point. The move is to say no, but I'll send you one.

I can't give you that one. Yeah, I'll get you one. Yeah, I don't know. It's somewhere north of James Williams. Far north. I'm not. Maybe all the way to. I'm not begrudging the kid.

No. Fuck, man. He's a good player. It's a good opportunity. He's young. Well, yeah. He seemed to me. He was chill about it, too.

He was like, he laughed or something when Aaron was like, yeah, I might want to hold on to this one. Did you guys exchange jerseys when you played against each other? We did. Didn't we? Yeah.

Yeah. I have a white 91. Nice. Yeah, mine's a blue 91, subsequently. Yeah. I think mine's white. away game for me. There you go.

What's your Beville Conway of a potential Super Bowl matchup? I'm looking at the list right now. Oh, this is good. And then we can get Macon's opinion on the freak show. But, yeah. Bevel Conway Super Bowl? So, like, people at home, we're going to name some teams here. We don't think that they're going to make the Super Bowl.

Yeah. But we think it's good. It's just about the uniforms. The Bevel Conway is a... I think the Giants and the Chargers could look super bowl. I was going to say Giants. Chargers, Chiefs, Giants, nobody in the Buccaneers.

Chargers. Nineers Chargers. There was a Niners Chargers Super Bowl and it was one of the most beautiful Super Bowls of all time and it was still the Chargers, they wore dark blue or did they wear they were white? I think they were dark blue. Yeah. And that's 95. 95. That blowout. Yeah. Just gorgeous.

Just gorgeous. Now Miami's got some gorgeous uniforms. If there were the throwbacks, Miami throwbacks in the San Francisco 49ers or the Miami Oh my goodness. This one's a tough one. Most heartbreaking sports moment

and we were interested to learn as non-professional athletes earlier that you guys actually care about the fans sometimes. I feel bad for fans sometimes. I do. Another wild card moment that I failed to mention was when the Browns

just thinking about fan base I feel bad about the Browns now especially they beat the doors off of Pittsburgh in the wild card round a couple years ago in 2021 or 2020 20 yep and 17 years before that the Steelers had a 17 point comeback against the Browns in the wild card round so that was payback how are things now Cleveland for me it's any time like when Kobe passed yeah

I don't remember exactly where I was or anything like that I know where I remember exactly where I was yep I just remember the immediate reaction to it you know people that these fans become so like

they get to know these people like they're their own best friends and their idols in a close, intimate way. And then you lose a guy like that. Without any closure, that was really hard. And then I think about another heartbreaking thing was 20, I forget what year it was, 2016, 2017, Zach Miller broke his leg in New Orleans.

Right. And I was there on the field watching him, like I was there to go celebrate the touchdown. Yeah. End up being a non-touchdown. And it was the last play. he ever played and you know watching him rehab back but i mean like as a fan seeing that and then the news that came out the next day like he's still in new orleans yeah clotting in his leg

his shit was terrible yeah he almost lost his leg so i mean it was kind of akin to nothing as serious as last week but it's akin to fans feeling the pain of somebody else i guess i'll I'll go with the 2001 World Series Which one? Luis Gonzalez singles up the middle Oh the bloop To beat the Yankees

Well it was hard to follow that I mean yeah it's like Kobe And a guy almost loses his leg I'm like oh the Yankees lost And It was an Aaron Boone Yeah well for me That was the end of my Yankees fandom

I just had enough Oh You're not on board The Yankees anymore Fuck no dude I was like At that point, it was just like... They were so much fun, though.

Being a baseball fan wasn't convenient for the high school, me. The Yankees are the cowboys. Right, exactly. Yeah, I didn't want to be the 13-year-old with... At that point, I was 16, but there was still time. But the Yankees had? With the Yankees, the Lakers, the Cowboys, and, like, you know, that whole thing on your header. You don't want to be that person.

You were the Knicks, the Panthers. Knicks, Panthers. Yankees and Pittsburgh penguins and that's the problem because the Pittsburgh penguins were good. What a strange array of teams. Well, Kyle, you know, I was displaced. I liked Brett Farr of a lot. The Bonaroo lineup came out,

R Today, Year Yesterday. If it's your first Bonneroo summer, what are two do's and what are two don'ts at Bonneru Music Festival? Man, do be nice to the staff. They're amazing, people. They have to deal with some crazy shit, right?

You know, just people. Probably literally, too. A lot of drugs. A lot of littering. If you get a chance to talk to some of the people that work at, you know, these concerts, a lot of them are offensive linemen and, like, defensive linemen from, actually, they

play all the positions. A lot of these schools around Bonaroo, the kids will work Bonarue in the summer. So, like, I met a bunch of college football players there. So take time to talk to the staff. They're interesting, hardworking people. Hydrate. Hydrate. It's really hot. Kyle didn't even go to the festival. It's a good reminder. Mix in a water. It's like 100 degrees. Do you have to bring all your supplies with you or can you get some

stuff there? Yeah, you can get stuff there, but I would bring supplies. I would definitely bring supplies. I meant drugs. Oh, drugs. Yeah, you can bring your drugs. You can get drugs there. You can bring your drugs. Don't do drugs. Don't do drugs. I was going to ask about actual supplies. you bring your burner stove, you know, your little stove. Do you get to coolers? I got to be honest, since I've been going to Bonner, I'm at an age, and I'm going with, you know, some, my wife and some her friends and my friends. So we kind of, we don't really rough it.

Yeah, we got a nice little bus. Yeah, we're glamping for sure. I would bring earplugs because at night, not that they're going to do anything, but the sound checks start early in the morning and you're out there sleeping outside. you know go go to the silent disco that shit's trippy really trippy it's really fun and take your headphones off and look around and just see all these people vibe in but everyone's moving differently and it's cool when you meet somebody like maybe you go there you know by yourself or one or two other people and you're just dancing and you meet someone you don't know and you happen to be on the same

station same station all right well it's a great way to make friends you know go to the same Silent Disco. Make sure you you figure out the stages because they're all like this tent, that tent, what tent?

It's Coachella, right? Then it's Coachella, essentially. No, Bonaroo is different from a brand standpoint. It's more like

Southern hippie. Oh, okay. And now, like, there was a, there was like a long, it started out,

like, wasn't it jam bands in the beginning? It was just jam bands. A lot of jam bands, a lot of, so, you know, like,

It's a big field in Manchester, Tennessee. I love Odessa. Okay, Kyle, see. There you go. I had a list for you, Kyle. I love Tyler Childers. I love my morning jacket. I don't know Lewis the Child.

Okay, so the Pixies Revolution, MMJ Childers, Fleet Foxes, 36 Mafia, Portugal the Man, Wolf Peck, Kendrick Lamar. Portugal, the Man. Yes. Not the country.

but either will do it's a really fun festival Kyle Morgan Wade is really good it's different than yeah they had me in the first half with that one what Morgan Way

how it's like oh oh whew Morgan Wade is good so so yeah like I don't know I used to go for three four nights now I'll be lucky to get two

but I'm gonna go so Kyle you should go Kyle we saw this video last night what are your thoughts on the Bears stadium renovations in Soldier Field? I could not have been happier to see that there was at least rendering showing a non-arlington Heights move. I mean, there's no way I can see the Chicago Bears not playing in their current location. And for them to enclose Soldier Field in the way that they have, I know the domes are a hot topic on this podcast and many other podcasts, as they should be,

but this is fabulous the way they did it and also if you notice there's a place called Long Poor in there Long Poor, yeah that's cool The name of the bar Some of the stat lines are really outdated They had Jordy Nelson on there I think Colin Kaepernick was on there as well

For some of the stat lines on here I just can't help but notice A lot of this revolves around the veterans And you know showing respect to the veterans Veterans don't they play outside don't they they also play inside they only play outside no they fight inside

yeah but mostly they fight outside they mostly fight inside in the movies they fight inside well yeah you're right they fight inside where do you think they don't they don't get the veterans you they don't oh you're gonna dome for the football players but not the veterans

sleep it out there in Afghanistan it's fucking cold but you know how much good food is gonna be here they're talking about it's gonna be a culinary experience like none other like nobody else is imagined in Chicago.

Obviously, for people who haven't been to Chicago, I think it's the best city in the summer and in the fall. Go watch a Bears game. If you get an opportunity in the summer, go watch a Cubs game or a White Sox game, but I think this is going to be it. They have the colonnades up

still. It's iconic, and it keeps the old feel of it. And you have to wait until the end of this video to actually see where they show the field view of it. It's actually pretty cool. It looks exactly like Soldier Field. 2.0.

Marcus Latrell lines up his shot, but there's too much wind. All right. Go bad. See ya.