Green Light with Chris Long - Eagles Clobber Giants, Jordan Love Is Dominant & Broncos Smack Cowboys | NFL WK8 Reactions

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

Chris reacts to the NFL's week 8 slate. The Philadelphia Eagles absolutely dominated the New York Giants, Saquon Barkley and Jalen Hurts were on all day and Jaxson Dart couldn't produce the same magic he did in their first matchup. Jordan Love showed his former teacher Aaron Rodgers that he is totally ready to be the next dominating Packers QB. Bo Nix and the Denver Broncos showed up to play against the Dallas Cowboys and Dak Prescott. Another great week in the NFL! (00:00:00) - Intro: WK8 Reactions (00:02:55) - Green Bay Packers vs Pittsburgh Steelers (00:17:12) - Denver Broncos vs Dallas Cowboys (00:28:00) - Philadelphia Eagles vs New York Giants (00:48:13) - Houston Texans vs San Francisco 49ers (01:02:45) - New York Jets vs Cincinnati Bengals (01:17:20) - Baltimore Ravens vs Chicago Bears (01:29:05) - Indianapolis Colts vs Tennessee Titans (01:41:35) - New England Patriots vs Cleveland Browns (01:53:35) - Buffalo Bills vs Carolina Panthers (02:04:30) - Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs New Orleans Saints (02:11:55) - Miami Dolphins vs Atlanta Falcons (02:16:45) - Green Light Phone Line (02:22:00) - BetMGM Moments (02:59:45) - MNF Previews: Washington Commanders at Kansas City Chiefs Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Also, check out our paddling partners at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Appomattox River Company ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I just thought it was a great, great second half from this Packers team, a young team that I felt like grew up a little bit. They're just like, you know. If the Jags scored 40 points on a high school football team, you'd come in here going, dovol! Number one, the Eagles were going to play their best because two weeks ago this team beat them. It felt like the Eagles said, all right, we got something for you. There was so much good football to go over yesterday in that slate. My God, what a... Only one game decided by one score.

That hasn't happened since 1970. You fucking beat me to it, cowboy. But I got more. We talked about that last night how shitty that slate was. Week 14, 1970, as you put it, 18.25 average margin of victory is the eighth most of all time. Eight games featured quarterbacks that weren't their week one starters. that is um wolf yeah it's a wolf it's a wolf big old wolf but it's still football like and we

i was in the chat line till late i was uh son up to my kids woke up yesterday and they're like what's the morning game you see how quickly they got radicalized like it was like 7 a m you know what what's a breakfast ball i want breakfast ball too more chances a good game at some point in the day I got Dr. Fax with me I got Nolan with me I got Reed with me We are Bose on the damn screen

Beau sorry I almost forgot you You just You know You did kiss pistols You did kiss pistols You look good bro You look good So I don't know where to start

I guess we start Sunday night Your boy was having a rough day at the office Like for real Who is that? Me Why? Chase Long was out last night. Oh, last.

I've tried not to talk as much about my gambling exploits on this show, but let's just say the Packers had to win or all the goodwill that I had created thus far through two months of NFL was going down the drain. Jordan Love showed you some love. Oh, Jordan Love was amazing. So were the officials. You know what's going to be amazing? On that off sides call. We'll get to that in a second.

Man, you know what's going to be made? What? Jordan Love, Great May, and the Super Bowl. Oh, man. Oh, man. Nate's prediction. You know the type of victory lap I'm going to take if that actually happened? Well, that'd be great.

But, like, can you wait till... Can you wait till the eighth game today to take your victory lap? Yeah, I got you. We talk about Green Bay. Yeah, it was one of your teams. One half. One half. Looking good.

No, they looked good last night. Coming in this game, I think, like, this was a big spot for Green Bay to look like an adult football team. You know, I think the way they came out early this season, beating Detroit, the preseason hype hand up on part of that whole thing. It felt like it put an immediate target on their back for people expecting a regression. They lose to Cleveland. They tied Dallas in a big spot. You know, they played Arizona last week in a game that, like, I don't think people realize Arizona is better than they think because Arizona and plays in shitty time slots in shitty games.

And they're down their quarterback who's actually probably the part of the problem. Jacob Brissette comes in. He's running the offense. I think most people are kind of looking at Green Bay last night, like, all right, well, let's see. And the first half, you know, they give up long drives. They're missing field goals. The offense is start and stop, which I think is the biggest complaint you have about a Green Bay offense is just the inconsistency.

Both teams play at a really slow pace. So it's not the type of game that you want to get down two scores at the half to a Steelers team that, you know, this is, hey, it's the Tomlin dog spot. It's the Tomlin home dog spot. It's the Tomlin off a terrible loss. Like just had all the makings of a Steelers win. But in the second half, I saw the Jordan Love that has some people in the media talking about him like he's one of the next big things. And honestly, I'm not saying it had been since this game. that I'm about to reference, but I remember the way they played against Kansas City two years ago in prime time. And it was just such a great game from Jordan Love, the offense, the whole thing. It was a big spot, primetime game.

They did the same thing in the second half. How many straight completions did he have? 20. Yeah, that was 20. 20, which is another thing. Once you get the lead in a game like that, you can throw the ball. And if it doesn't hit the ground,

you know, you continue to, to work the clock and that sort of thing. So I just thought it was a great, great second half from this Packers team. A young team that I felt like grew up a little bit. You know, it happens in little increments and they beat the blitz all night. And that makes sense that Pittsburgh came out and said, we're going to blitz the fuck out of this guy. The backs had a really hard time in protection.

That's why. but Jordan Love, two prayers that really kind of defined the game. The third and seven to Tucker Kraft, who was magnificent, had 150 yards after the catch, and then the Watson, welcome back, deep shot, dropped in the bucket. It was awesome. All 22 of that throw is insane, just rolling to his right and spires it across the field to the opposite hash,

and it just just gets over that outstretched hand of the safety. And speaking to Tucker Craft, shout out to Timberlake, South Dakota. They were talking about that during the broadcast all night. Yeah, he's got a great story, man. And after the game, it was like he was accepting an Oscar. Yeah. Yeah, it's pretty happy. He was like, it was just great to come out here and beat a great team in this great weather. I was like, you go, Tucker Kraft. The other guys in the circle were like, all right, buddy. But he is so valuable to that offense. You talked about it on the ride over. I mean, some of the stuff in the flat is like an extension of the run game.

Yeah, that's stuff they got going in the second half there with, obviously the run game really started to come on in the second half of the Packers. I thought the Steelers' defense did a good job keeping Jacobs bottled up in the first half, but that damn kind of broke and then complementing that with those completions, like fast to the flat, the outroutes. There are like run plays with the way Kraft and can create after the catch, and a lot of those playmakers they have there. They were just playing really fast, love was, and the passing game.

and just really started to get that run game going. It's crazy in the game like this when Green Bay wins. To look at the stats and see that Jacobs at 13 rushes for only 33 yards. He didn't get going. He didn't get going. Wilson was the guy who got a little going. He had like 63 yards. But just seeing all the different weapons kind of like take part in that Green Bay offense

other than Jacobs. And to see their offense work without the running game really like imposing their will, I think for defenses to come and you're just like... It's a great sign because you look at this team when Jaden Reed comes back with Watson back, with Golden out there, with Wix, with Kraft, like they've got, not to mention Saviore Williams,

who has a touchdown in the red zone, who's a really good gadget guy, kick returner for them, big physical runner with the ball in his hands. The one thing I looked at the last couple weeks, which, you know, thankfully they have a really powerful running back because they've had trouble inside,

moving people off the ball, and they were rotating, guards in this game, which is kind of an abnormal deal. The run game didn't get going, but I just thought again, Jordan Love, without the drops, 90% completion. 90% completion. That's just hard. He's efficient, man. And talking about the Steelers who looked absolutely disgusting in those jerseys,

by the way, I had to just let that out. They need to win. I mean, it is gross. I mean, I'm sure we'll get there in the match. It just didn't look good last night. It looked good in the daytime last year. I saw it in the daytime and then at night it just kind of didn't look good. It looked like the Gotham, you know, from like the stadium explodes.

It's the week of Halloween. Yeah. Yeah. But talking about actual ball for the Steelers, like they need to beat teams like with Steelers' baseball, you know, and they're not going to do that, giving up 35 points. I mean, I've kind of said that all year. It feels like an abnormal year for the Steelers defense. But also, like, they just need to be really efficient.

And they're not. They're one of 10 on third down, which does not. feel like that's Aaron Rogers, you know, historically. And then the thing that I think so interesting, too, it feels at times like the MVP of the Steelers offense is Chris Braswell or whatever the fuck, their kicker. And we all know how. Oswell. Oswell.

We all know how he's only been there for 40, 45 years. He's a serial killer. Yeah. I, uh, I mean, he's one of the few that I like. But you just feel like he is kicking like eight field goals a game. And so I'm looking at the red zone stats. for the Steelers, they're one of one. It's like they're not, they're just getting to like just outside the red zone and then just

hitting these like 55 to 58 yard field goals. It just doesn't really feel like they're operating efficiently, like playing the brand of Steelers football that they want with, you know, good defense, a lot of pressure on defense, stopping the run and then kind of like these long drives that end and touchdowns. It doesn't feel like they're, they're really getting into a groove yet this season. It's interesting. Yeah, you know what? And we talked about this, like, they got one home run threat in D.K. Matt Caff, who can catch the ball and run with it.

We've talked about his route tree being kind of limited. But, you know, unless you're feeding him go balls two, three times a game, I don't feel like you're really getting, you're maximizing him on the field. And the lack of other playmakers is tough for them. I mean, you know, if they are going to be buyers at the trade deadline, we were looking around and saying, hey, like, it'd be nice to find either a guy that can stretch the field or somebody. underneath and especially underneath because no one you talked about this the distance on their third downs yeah last night in some spots and and just generally like they they need to be more on schedule you talk about like the brand of football they need to play it needs to be like we're going to talk about houston a little bit Houston yesterday kept everything manageable and inch the ball down the field that's kind of got to be the way they play the problem is and houston has the problem as well is the run game is not imposing.

You know, the one thing last night that I thought was pretty interesting was Jalen Warren dragging a goal, you know, soccer goal behind him, which I think is like the Hawaiian version of the Walter Payton Hill. And to be honest, like hot take, maybe it's almost as impressive to me because that's a big, like a 200-pound goal. Yeah. You've heard stories, maybe it was Mike Allstad. He used to bring his Jeep out onto his high school football field.

and like tie it on put it neutral and like pull his jean that thing's got wheels though hell yeah this this thing's dragging behind him so you know i i just don't think like when you look at it you said it bo if you were going to draw this up this year for the steelers and i'm not saying they're out of it but the limitations are real you you have a hundred and thirty million dollar defense that's given up over 30 points a game like and i do feel like rogers was let down at times last night I do think, and Rogers complained about this after the game, you know, coming out of the half and getting the ball and, you know, it's third down and Green Bay is clearly off sides. And they huddled and the officiating. That wasn't even close.

It wasn't even close. And the officiating is going to be a topic today as it has been the past couple weeks. It's almost like, and I floated this in the group text last week, it's almost like the worst the slate is, the worse the calls are. And it's almost like the NFL knows that we're still going to be in the chow line the next week, no matter how bad the officiating is. And it's almost like they're calling shit badly to, to, so people talk about the NFL. Stimulate dialogue. Any publicity is good publicity. Yeah.

I know that's probably not the case. But if you're watching, it's like, damn, I'll be damned if these calls don't get worse when the games are shitty. Because, because without fail, we are all going to, like, look on Twitter. What percentage of the discourse around the NFL yesterday was about calls? It's a pretty high percentage. Yeah, 100. It wasn't about, you know. Almost killed daves, bro.

The refs almost killed Dave. Almost had a heart attack on air. And we'll get to that a minute. But that was a blown call in this game. And, you know, a big sack in this game. You don't talk a lot about the Green Bay defense, but two things. like the pass rush got home. Gary played his ass off. You know, Micah Parsons making that play, forcing second and 20. And then right after that, you end up with the her big penalty on the punt

return and the whole thing. And it just goes downhill from there. And so, you know, there were moments in this game with the pass rush made it hard. And another thing is Carrington Valentine with Hobbs out. You know, if you've watched the Packers, you know, they bring in Hobbs to be an outside corner with Bullard inside, but like honestly, he played inside in Vegas, and Valentine's probably outplayed him outside. And so now you've kind of got a decision to make. I know Hobbs had an injury in preseason. I'm not saying it's not related to that, but right now, Valentine might be your best guy. So you kind of have to make a decision there. But I think this is a big win for the Steelers and one that kind of legitimizes who they are a little bit in the second half of that ball game.

And Christian Watson coming back, he caught one of the prayers. You know, just having, a deep target that can really run, that's a big body. Yep. Because Golden, at this point in his career, is a really good gadget guy. He runs a fucking 4-3. Yeah, he's super fast. But when you want to throw a jump ball, Christian Watson's your guy. And so coming off that ACL, good to see him come out there and play well.

Yeah, having him in the fold. And then once you get reback, I think when we've seen this Packers offense at its best this season, it's really been the quick game that's been clicking. And that's kind of an evolution for them last year. They had the explosive element, but the passing game is becoming more complete with, like, you think about it, like a fighter. Like, last year they could throw the right hook, connect on that right hook for the kill shot down the field, but weren't as good with, you know, kind of peppering the defensive body blows. They can do that now and they'll be able to do it even better with reading the fold. You know what that leads to Nolan?

I was talking about the Steelers defense, zero sacks. And that's just exactly we talk about that quick game, that efficiency, 20 passes completed straight. Like that's really impressive, man. That's a comfortable quarterback in the pocket, dishing the ball around, getting it out and eliminating the pass rush for the Steelers. And they have a good pass rush, man. So no question. No question.

I thought they put it all together, guys. I mean, go, Pat, go. When you get back, because Tomlin, you talk to that defense, what do you say for the rest of the year? Like, what do they need to do? Hey, just pick it up? Like, because I see guys. It would be an understatement.

See, I see guys missing tackles. Slay look real bad on a play early on a mistackle that like ended up being a big huge chunk yard play. And just like you said, if you're spending that much money on guys on defense and like right now, that's the issue of your team. Like how do you move forward? Well, there's a lot of aging guys on that defense. I think that's one of the things is like, you know, some of the names on paper sound really good. For sure. But, you know, you're projecting the prime version of that player onto the field.

and that's not just not what's happening. And I also think the way the defense has been called at times this year has been really confounding. So I think it's a scheme issue. I think it's a bit of a personnel issue. And in the run game, like they've just been inconsistent inside. So like, you know, they did a good job in the run game last night, you know, bottling up Jacobs and that sort of thing. But that hadn't been the case every week.

So, you know, depending on the week, somebody different takes a turn on this defense. Yeah, I agree with that, Chris. I think I do envision. I still have hope for the Steelers defense. I always love Steelers defense, man. They got a bunch of badgers that I love over there. I think if they just have one good game, you know how these things go.

Sacks come in bunches. They get a little bit of swag back. They remember kind of their identity a little bit. Get some confidence going. I think that'll be really big for them coming down. But, I mean, they haven't really shown it so far. I feel like they've given up at least 30 points. Most of their games.

Most of their games. Remember, the season started with them giving up. Look at what the Bengals did last. yesterday defensively against the, against the Jets. I mean, the last team that looked like that against the Jets really was the Steelers defense in the opener. So, all right, let's go to Dallas and Denver because this was, this was really impressive for Reed's Broncos for God's team. And I think for Dallas, like coming in this game, the one thing that, that I, it was a blind spot for me was just how bad Dallas's depth was going to be in the secondary. I mean, they were awful.

I mean, you look at some of the body types back. there and some of the guys, you know, the way they support in the run game. I mean, just forget about the coverage and guys were getting picked on out there. But the way that they support or don't support in the run game was huge in this game. I thought, you know, for Dallas, they were under pressure the entire game because the script didn't go their way. There was an opportunity early in this game. They got down in the red zone.

They had a goal to go at like the one or the two yard line. They put the ball in the air. CM man coverage. They fall start. Just not what they wanted out of that first possession. And then they get on defense and they're off sides on a third down that probably leads to a punt. So, you know, there's two instances very early in this game where they just did not, they didn't start the script the way they would have wanted the script to go and being down to this Denver team. And the one thing that was really impressive was, and part of it is it doesn't matter who you're throwing at sometimes if the throws on target, the quality of the throw.

I mean, like, for instance, the Bo Nix shot to Bryant before the half was a thing of beauty. It was on target. They go empty. I mean, it's just right in his hand. So Bo Nix, from an on-target perspective, was a lot better this week. And I also think, like, they found some things in the rookies. I mean, Harvey was great, right? The run game was great.

And Bryant was huge. Bryant threw two blocks on big runs. That's a very underrated thing. We talked about last week, Denver not blocking on the perimeter, you know, in the screen game. And they were a little bit better this week, but there were still moments where I'm like, yeah, Bryant throwing blocks in the run game, you know, becoming a target that maybe Bow Nix can go to later in the season. You know, I talked last week about them needing to do something to evolve from a personnel standpoint. This guy was a big part of it.

But Harvey, having a guy like that in the red zone who can sit there in the Wildcat, is a former quarterback. He's going to throw the ball off one of these looks, whether it's a toss play in the field or down in the red zone, Wahooah for a year, or the Wildcat. Something's going to come off that later in the season. So I just think it was a game where Denver got whatever they wanted in the run game. And then to top it off, Dallas was not at full strength in the secondary and they just got picked apart. It was awful. Like, you know, the touchdown to Franklin earlier, that's a bus. They're trying to pass that off. The backer doesn't have enough depth that's first and 20.

Just a really piss poor game from, and I know people are saying this morning Dallas fans are like fire Iber flus, but like what do you want him to do with that group out of the field? Like that also goes to show you how bad the commanders were last week. Can I play devil's advocate with that? Sure. Like isn't that a testament to your coaches like when your next, next man up like are maybe not ready?

Well, yeah, we give Detroit a lot of credit when they're down all those guys and the guys play sticky man coverage, but they don't have the pass rush up front. We talked about this. You know, Detroit has Aiden Hutchinson, who's going to demand that some guys, you get less guys out in the route. You know, they have a Lee McNeil coming back.

Really good linebacker play. Really good linebacker play. Cowboys have terrible linebacker play underneath. You saw it like right away when they go mesh and hit Franklin for like 30 yards. The guys are just, they're just, they're sniffing butts, man. You know what I mean?

That's what the linebackers for Dallas does. Yeah, they're just like, So, you know, where's the run game? Yeah. And it's behind them. And so I just think like it's a lot easier to overcome and say, hey, fuck, we're going to play sticky man coverage like Detroit did because they've been doing that for the better part of a year. Even though guys are like off the street for them, they went through it last year. They manned up against Minnesota late in the year.

They did it again this year in that spot against Tampa. And then you look at Dallas. They just got guys that haven't played a lot of football. they look like it outside and the backers aren't great anyways and the rush isn't great and so imagine that you trade away micha parsons it completely um creates an out of balance deal with your defense so are they going to be buyers at the trade deadline i don't know the one good thing they have for him is Cincinnati shit the bed we'll talk about that in a little bit so maybe tray hendricksson is um is available but his hips also fucked up and supposedly coming to this game teams including

the cowboys are calling about guys like max crosbie and hendrickson are and they're giving the cold shoulder So we'll see what happens there, but the defense is the thing that's going to keep this team from being a deep run team if they don't do anything about it. And damn, so much for Dax's MVP votes. What? Down quick. Well, you know, that thing's a week-to-week thing. It's like the Heisman, you know. Honestly, if the season ended today, I'd probably give it to Drake.

I see the funny-ass meme, and it's like Dax's MVP chances. Yeah. And it's like a bunch of white goats. Yeah. And then there's like a white lab in there with the goats just blend in. Yeah. Yeah. That's funny.

But it is, it's funny how week to week how like we get high and low on certain guys this early in the season or I mean, it's not early. It's about to be. Yeah, we're about halfway through. But you know what? I mean, like there's an argument to be made that and he should be in that conversation. But I just think like Dallas should have known what they, you know, they should have known what they're. you know they should have known what they were up against especially after the first half and to me like you know 3017 couple of the biggest misses 3017 it's third and five you miss turpin on a comeback

that's a big yikes um outside because uh you get the ball back and it's 37 13 I think they should have gone on fourth down there um you know it doesn't make a lot of sense in most games but with that game script I think they should have you know that should have gone out the window in the second half and you know like the broncos just with their run game they ice the fucking game so um not deck's best game bo nicks is probably his best game with an asterisk because he's throwing it guys that you know quite frankly i've never heard of some of them and only saying a 23% pressure rate i mean anything sub 30 is bad and you're closer to 20 than you are 30 get a lot of time back there that's right you talked about pat brian we brought him up on the show the other day

that when he comes into the game, the defense knows, hey, this is likely a screen or a run because he's used as a blocking guy. But with Kim catching that beautiful throw from Bo Nix down the sideline, he accesses that ability and then that receiving ability. And it makes the defense think, oh, shit, now he's got a third. Now this guy is going to come into the game. Now there's three things. And he can work outside. Yes. You know, I think, again, And Sean Payton, I know they're short-handed, but he just got whatever he won yesterday. And they were talking about his play calling going in the game.

I thought this was a big, like, get the fuck off me for a week. Performance from the Broncos' offense. Pat Brian, after the game, said, I told all the running backs, if y'all ever want to bounce it anyway, just make sure y'all find 13, and I'll make sure y'all boys get to the box. There you go. That dude was blocking. Dude just wants to block.

We see you, dog. That guy can play football. So, you know, just, just a, and for Riley Moss, like Riley Moss got attacked a lot yesterday, but he actually made some really nice plays, too, including like in the red zone down low on that, on that in-cut early in the game. You know, it's just, it's hard being Riley Moss. Really hard, especially when PS2 gets knocked out of the game, you know? Yeah.

And he showed up. Like, you know, it probably was a little too late, but as a Cowboys fan, you probably wanted to see Dak attack Chris Abrams. drain the third corner a little bit more and not go not go away from him quickly though i know know we do moments at the end but i just want to get my uh anti bevel conway out of the way this game was an anti bevel conway because because not because of the jerseys anything like that but because we're in Denver yeah mile high who has the biggest leg and who could have attempted. We could have had it. We could have had.

And fucking Ryan Schottenheimer decides to punt. No, no. Well, before the half, the problem is the DAC interception. That was, they go two man, and it's like he decided he's going to work the seam and the tight end, but they're in two men. There's a safety right over the top. I think

because of the situation, DAC assumed that that safety was going to work to Turpin, who ran the out, because of the clock, right? And Turpin's wide open. You can see Turpin. He breaks out, and he's fucking pissed that he doesn't get the ball. And then you watch him on sideline and the interception happens.

And he's like beyond livid, dude, because he was open. And that to me, like little moments in this game for Dallas where like, yeah, you probably didn't deserve to win this game. But there were so many moments where you probably could have kept this thing closer, but you just didn't because you didn't get points before the half or you didn't go on fourth and five or, you know, and a lot of times it was Vance Joseph with well-time pressures, man. And he's been doing that all seasons. all season. And shout out Jada Baron, who had that interception right at the half. Riley Moss had his first pick, his only pick, but his first pick in the Broncos throwbacks as a rookie last year. Now Jada Baron had his first pick as a rookie in the throwbacks.

Here we just keep going. I got this stuff in my notes. Third and five, you got a blitz, guiding. This is early in the game. He's getting chip help and he gives up the inside move. Like just not good enough. Both packles took turns playing poorly in the first half. And so like whether it was protection or whether it was situational football,

the Cowboys just didn't do enough to chase in that moment. When you look at the defense, one more thing, I saw somebody bring this up. Like look at the way the Cowboys have drafted on defense over the past, you know, five, six years. How many guys besides Micah Parsons, who you're, shipped off or overshone who got hurt last year and is coming back soon and will definitely help are like game changing guys for for dallas like they just have not drafted that well defensively and and here you are and the roster just looks like totally cratered and it creates an imbalance where you've got one great player and the rest of the guys are just dudes and so you know jerry makes

the trade and sends the guy away and now look at it so just just tough to be a cowboys fan this morning I wouldn't know. So anyways, here we go. New York and Philly. NFC. East went the complete opposite way for Eagles fans. They got finally, it felt like the offense from start to finish looked a lot more competent. This was like the first game where I know it's just the Giants and the Giants, you know, Scataboo got injured early in this game and that sort of thing.

But number one, the Eagles were going to play their best because, two weeks ago this team beat him. And it didn't feel like, you know, the Giants rubbed their face in it. But it did feel to me like because of that moment and everybody paying attention to Jackson Dart and the rookie running back and, you know, like, wow, you know, the Eagles are going to have trouble with this duo. It felt like the Eagles said, all right, we got something for you. And they did.

And one thing was in that game two weeks ago, Quinnian Mitchell's out for most of the ballgame. Look at Jackson Dart's passing chart. He doesn't even work the right side of the field. You know, that makes a big difference that he's in that game start to finish. It makes a big difference that Jalen Carter's in that game. And I do think for the Giants early in that game, losing Scataboo, that changes the whole mentality for that team. Like if they were going to win, they were going to have to drive the football three yards in a cloud of dust. And definitely a team that's living off vibes.

And I said this last night, you know, like it's just a, it's like a magical little mini run for them. Had they won the Denver game, it'd be absolutely crazy. but to beat the Eagles on Thursday night, to beat the Chargers, like they felt like an upstart team and to lose like half of what's created that excitement for you in such a gruesome way where the fucking guy's ankle sideways, they just couldn't overcome it. So over the past couple years, like we've kind of seen this happen,

like with gruesome injuries, like what we see on TV and you kind of see guys of the teammate that the injury happened to, like visibly upset in this kind of, like in real time, it's maybe like four or five minutes but you just have to kind of like wrap your emotions up after seeing like one of your brothers like with their ankle turned a complete opposite way

and like we seen it last year with with the Texans with um with with Tang Del and you see how that game went and is there any real way to like mimic that like for players for us like in practice or to go through something like that in a game where it's just like hey I need to mentally block this

out and try to focus up on the rest of this game to get one of the quality control guys to like have a compound fracture just just something just let me equip hit a trainer hit an intern with a fucking baseball bat the leg you're in camp I need to see the bone I'm asking you see see this is the odd answer if you don't mind I'll give you a serious answer I mean it's true I feel like for whatever reason this year, there have been a lot of gruesome injuries to star players. Like Scadaboo is on the up and up. I think he's been the one rookie that everyone, you know, really likes and wants to root for and stuff like that. But think about Fred Warner, you know, down in Miami.

Like, dude, there have been so many injuries and it is such an emotional thing to overcome on the field, especially during the game because the game is emotional without that kind of shit. Like, we all know that. We're out there. But, like, I mean, I'm thinking back. man. And there's probably three or four points of my career where, you know, someone got seriously injured on the field and you're out there. And you almost become a little numb to it, man. And I don't know if that's because Jackson Darts a rookie because he's that

close with Scataboo and they're kind of the dynamic duo. And, you know, you said it, Chris, like they're like the all vibes team, especially after that Thursday night game. And that felt like the great hope for New York, especially in the NFC East. But like, I attribute that a little bit to just the nature of the injury. It was pretty gruesome. He's sitting there. He's trying to get up and everyone's like dude stay down your ankles fucking sideways yeah and you see back's dark going fuck fuck but i think like a little bit of that is a rookie bit too man and it just seemed like such a roller coaster with how well they're playing and how physical scataboo is and how at times it seems like he's so tough and indestructible and then to have that happen but to answer your question

is like there's no way you can prep for that man you can't prep for catastrophic injuries and almost as players you become a little bit numb to it later in your career at least in my experience I do think you're kind of numb to it. I do think, you know, and we already hit it, that it was, this team's so vibey that when the vibe gets ruined like that and it is one of, it's the quarterback's best buddy. They had butt going off the field. Like, they were living in like a varsity blues movie. Yeah.

And he's one of the main characters and he goes down. Like it's like a movie. He's such a tone setter for them. Yeah. Like to me, it felt like the tanked out to go. One I also thought about Arizona losing James Connor. Yeah. Like the way, like that's how scattered is kind of like the heartbeat.

Very quickly. But I want to say this, no matter what happens with the injury, I think the Eagles win that game because they showed up in the second play and ran duo and the doubles in the backers lap. And you look at Saquan Barkley, get to the second level and you see that kind of the acceleration and burst that you saw last year in so many spots, the home run hitting ability. I think the Giants last week, we talked about Denver needing to get on the perimeter and tried to do that with the screen game because the guys in the second level do not tackle well. And they're also down dudes. They're playing some of the guys they had to play in the second half of last game. And look how that went. You know, Jalen Hertz, who was great yesterday, he threw a fucking jump ball to Jehan Dodson. And it should be a pick. And, you know, you're throwing it over this guy that, you know, doesn't play.

And so they were outmanned. The Eagles run game got going. I thought Toth played a lot better. They just, Joe, it was huge on that O line. Who? To interrupt you real quick. Yeah. Fred Johnson.

came in big personnel and that's a new thing big big guys under center what exactly what's going on with the eagles run game like how come they haven't been able to get going historically under stout it's been all the inside zone that's been the basis of the eagles run game huge strengths their team has been the interior of the offensive line well not this year and that's why the eagles run game has been struggling so i love that the fact they brought him in um he was on the field for 12 of the 33 rushes and they rushed for 12th of the 239th on those plays wrong with people and so i think it's cool to bring fred johnson everyone's fucking talking about national tight end day blah blah blah where here's fred johnson reporting playing a huge pivotal role as a tight end with the birds i

kind of like that i got you know somebody in here goes the ball was placed perfectly to dots and dots and hit him right in the hands dude the guy played fucking fantastic we're not coming at the quarterback but it's it's it's the the the small man complex that exists in fandom right now is crazy And so let's get into the the the the officiating because that is what kind of I mean the Eagles play great We're going to talk about the officiating I'll go call by call and I made this point last night I think the officiating across the league is just shitty I've said this all year long You know people try to attribute it to this team or that team This team gets calls this team doesn't get calls Eagles fans a month ago we're saying

Eagles nobody likes us we don't care the fucking the refs are included in that whole thing and then yesterday it's like Giants fans, they take a turn. They say, hey, well, Eagles fans only get, Eagles only get the calls. Bullshit. The calls are bad all across the board. And let's go, let's go call by call in this game. So we just get an opinion on each call.

The tush push? The tush push? That's a fumble. Was it? That's a fumble. That's a fumble. I'm shocked that you, that you don't think that's a fumble. You didn't think it's a fumble?

I think. And we're all Eagles fans in here. Here's my thing. I think that the, the for progress thing like i think that's a on the on the ref who's making the call it's on them it's on the whistle if whether it's a but the whistle didn't happen before the fumble unless i'm mistaken am i was way way up the whistle's way in the ball it was and and here's what you just can't do with that tush push again i've been on this being officiated correctly so people can shut the fuck up

about it whether it's false starts or in this case if you because most of the tush pushes they let these things extend three, four seconds. And if we're going to be that way, then great, then the ball's live. Okay. But in this scenario, if Jalen Hertz is reaching out to game more yardage, that is a fumble. And if you're an Eagles fan and you can't admit that, then you got, it's not, you know, it's not a unique problem, but you got a problem. Okay, so there's that one. And then the other one that was the biggest topic was the Slayton OPI. I think that was probably an okay call. Like, and I'm, you know, I'm looking at the, why not, Bo? You slingshoting himself.

Why not? I just think like, it's just so tiki, tacky. To me, it's like, I guess what I'm trying to say is like, did he push off did his arm extend? Yes. Okay, because I watched it live and said, oh, shit, that's coming back. And the flag didn't come up on the screen and I'm like confused. But go ahead.

Yeah. I just think that it's like you're getting into the, weeds we're getting into the weeds so much on whether or not these are penalties and it's just creating a shitty product and i keep going back to what aikman said a couple weeks ago and that's all i keep thinking about about how like all these penalties and all the discussion around the penalties it's like distracting a little bit from the football my point is basically this i think you could i think it is a penalty i just hate that it it has become such so i just i feel like it is a penalty But no, I've got, no, let both think.

I got situations and it's fucking ruining the process. This is the worst angle. So much discourse about football. Okay. Just wait until we get to the fucking bucks games. I'll tell you about the. I know, but nobody's denying that the refs are shitty here. I just feel like,

I feel like this is what I said before. This is what I even said about the tush push when it first started. The refs in general, it's too hard to referee it in real time. Like a lot of these. plays like we have the luxury we're seeing them we're seeing them slow down and we're seeing them super slow motion and stop and they don't get that luxury and like you've said it before of course they're going to miss calls but the next thing is what are we going to what do we do to make it better here's the like i don't know what we do to make it better the rest need are because also

this are they in the meetings when they do the rule changes because i know the owners vote on stuff are the rest you are you asking if the refs know the rule changes no are they a part of it in giving their input like, hey, this, this call is, like, because you know what I'm saying, this call is too hard for us to make this call. But this isn't a real, so far we're talking about a couple plays. Yeah. Live ball fumble. Yep. OPI, which to me, and here's why I look at it, like, from the sideline view of the deal, and I think part of it is Quinnion Mitchell slows down to track the ball. And that creates a situation where as Slate and separates and definitely pushes off, it creates maybe a bit of an illusion that he's pushing Quinyon. Quinyon has slowed down

to track the ball. There is hand fighting going on, but Slayton, textbook pushes off. How hard the push off was, unless you've got a pad on fucking Quinyon Mitchell's chest to generate force from the palm of his hand, you don't know. And it's just a judgment call. But because of the action on the play, I don't think it was a terrible call. Yeah. It was just in a tough time for Giants fans. Now, you go back two, three plays before. I think the hands going forward on that fumble. It sucks because you slow it down to like a millisecond by millisecond deal. But as a pass rusher, I know that rule as well as anybody. That ball is going forward at all.

It's a fumble. The other one was the field goal, there's a whistle in the middle of the ball tracking towards the goalpost for Jake Elliott. It should be a re-kick by rule. There's a whistle, right? Okay, so they blew that one. And then the other one that I saw was somebody got called off-sides when it should have been a false start. That was clear as day. That went in the Eagles direction. And then the other one was

a lot of people made a lot of, you know, a lot of noise about this one on a blitz where I forget who it was, but somebody came up the A gap and it looked like they got held. But in actuality, he got tabletop by the legs of the adjacent offensive lineman. So there's just so many reactionary like, and the overriding thing is this. The officiating is shitty. If this, if this, There are five egregious calls in a game, which seems to be like track in a lot of these games. One week it's going to be three to two this team. The next week it's going to be four to one this team. The next week it's going to be two to three this team.

And fans take it personally every week. They forget about the weeks that they get the calls. And then the weeks they don't get the calls, it's the most personal thing in the world. The sample size of terrible calls is actually so small compared to what's going on in a football game that it's hard to build a build a profile out for who's getting the calls. It's just arbitrary week to week who's going to get the calls. That's my point. If PFF want to get back and everyone's good graces,

how about y'all start doing it for all of these referees? One by one. They grade the refs stuff. They do. It's just private, though. Well, no. You used to get that information. No, you guys, you put us on blast.

Put them on blast. Because I just think it's a situation, too. Like, why is it fair if there's certain refs that are making bad calls still getting primetime games or being able to... Well, they do have a system in which that based on the grades later in the year, those guys don't get the biggest game. Yep. Now, I think the argument is to be made that like... But without us knowing, how do we... They just don't advertise that because it's not getting to the league.

There needs to be more... How do we really know? I think we know, but I think transparency needs to be up. And then officials, to me, need to be full-time employees. No, yeah, yeah. Like, that's the dumbest shit in the world. This is a problem that's threatening. And it's a hollow threat because people aren't going to walk away from the game.

You've had 100 chances after a day full of bad calls to do it. You haven't. We're not doing it. It's a hollow threat. But people, it is threatening the, you know, the view of how our game is being officiated and how it's being carried out. Like, there are people, and I'm not calling them stupid because I have the privilege that I've played in the NFL for 11 years. So I know that in my mind, it's not rigged. There's no rigging of the NFL.

And like I also know football. So I know when I look at a call, like how a call was made poorly and that, you know, there's no real pattern to who it's, you know, who it's benefiting. There are people out there in the wake of like the NBA scandal and the whole thing that are thinking like, oh, everything's fixed. For sure. And I just don't think so. I think the officials are not good enough.

They need to pay them more. They need to make it harder to become officials. and the guys need to be graded transparent. I think, well, someone, I don't know, someone said this. Maybe it was Clay Matthews, he was talking about it. They need to start, he said, they need to start like a farm league. Like for ex-players or like, you're newly out of the league. It's another option.

Like, hey, like jump into this farm league of learning how to ref if you, hey, if you want to potentially be a referee and get your credentials and stuff, maybe like we can, maybe that doing something like that and can. keeping it in house and having a bunch of people kind of like on call, free agent reps and stuff. Maybe that's something that later on they can try to help. Honestly, at some point there's going to be officials on the field and there are going to be officials in the booth that can make calls in real time because how many calls do we see? Now, the thing that's scary and it's slippery slope for the NFL is this.

If you look at the NFL and there's 60 offensive plays for a team in a game, there's probably a penalty on 45 in the plays. Absolutely. And the slippery slope is if the NFL accepts some sort of progress towards doing it like at a hundred percent rate, whether it's through AI or through some unlimited amount of people watching with all the angles that we have from home, then like it is a slippery slope because there'll be a penalty on every fucking play. And so I think the NFL is kind of at this this impasse where our vantage point has has improved so much since like remember that fumble the browns had in like the 80s or whatever like the 90s.

Ernest Biner at the goal line like shit like that that wasn't a fumble or whatever like the shit I remember as a kid that like clear blown calls like the music city miracle or whatever it is like we just went about our day we're like I was kind of a bad call but like there was no Twitter to discuss it there was no like most fans didn't have the the seed planted every time they logged on that officiating is terrible and you didn't have the vantage points that we have now like look at the the delta between when you watch a sleepy 1 p.m. game that nobody's watching in the sunday night football game how many more calls that we can tell are blown for sure because sunday night football has all the fucking camera angles yep and so i think uh the vantage point has outpaced the the

the the official's ability to to call the game yeah and we've we saw earlier this season the you know in that in that detroit game them go to new york to get a call right and i just wonder i mean this isn't a solution for, you know, the immediacy, but like, is there something that can be done to prevent the egregious calls? I feel like you, you can't check every play. Chris, but generally speaking, any game you watch, we watch every game in here, when you come out of a game, you have a feel for, even when you're watching live, you have a feel for what the big calls are or the big penalties, what the egregious ones are. You know, in a 1 p.m. window, when there's no buys there's like what eight to ten games at most you can have somebody in the league office or

somebody in the booth as another set of eyes watching that game to just kind of prevent those kinds of calls and my thing is isn't that what they're trying to attempt to do right now but there's still a gray area i think they're experiment yeah because when we're listening in real time and they have that independent guy and they say yeah they're calling new york and then they come back down and they say, hey, this was overruled in real time. It's kind of like what you're saying, but in the same token, we're watching these games and we're hearing the independent guy. Tell us one thing and then another thing comes from New York. But the independent guy, the New York people at this point only have carte blanche to overturn certain things.

So there's always going to be judgment calls that they're going to miss. And so, you know, like, hey, we're going to get talking about this a little bit more when we'll get to Tampa Bay, because that to me is the thing that really needs to be corrected, the stuff like that. And last night, you look at Sunday night football after that fall start, they huddled up. It was almost like New York call and was like,

yo, they were off side. And they were like, fuck, we did it last week. We can't like tip off that we're starting to roll out. This eye in the sky thing. Here's a thought.

Yeah. How about one challenge of the refs per game? Ooh, that's a fucking good one. Throw a blue flag out. Per half. Yeah. Per half.

Per half. There you go. I really like a blue flag. Mm-hmm. Call New York. Get this right. I like that a lot. Why don't we just do that?

Blue flag. If I'm the refs, the rest huddle up, the rest, fuck, fuck you guys. It's an independent. We do the flag throw.

We do the flag throw. All right? Y'all already got a little red flag, and that maybe is too much. Y'all are not getting a blue flag. You know, the challenge to personally, because now you're personally challenging a certain referee or a couple of reps.

Well, that's what we're talking about. We're talking about accountability. Interesting point from Little Shoot-em-up to Sean. They tried it with P.I. And they didn't overturn a single one. So, you know, like, we've kind of been here. I don't know. I don't know what's happening.

Let's talk about football. San Francisco at Houston. I'm really happy for Houston because coming off of last week, that was as bad a game as they could have played. It really was for the people that stayed up till 2 a.m. And that game was on until 2 a.m. They had to fly back to Houston on a short week and get ready to play a San Francisco team

that knows Domingo Ryan's well. Well, he knows Kyle Shanahan well. A physical football team that's got some guys down, but is playing at Houston where Houston is a totally different ball team. Like look at the fucking games where they play at home, the way their defense plays. You know, they took Tampa Bay to the wire. they just are generally a lot faster, a lot more physical at home.

And I think D'Amico Ryan's did a great job this week of following up that stinker with a real big one. Three and four teams just beat a five and three teams. So when you look at it in this young season, they could be right where San Francisco is soon. They get Denver next week. That's going to be a totally different challenge for Denver offensively facing this defense. San Francisco ran 44 plays in this game. They ran 14 in the first half.

Houston scoring jobs of 16, 9, 10, 11, 12, and 10. and when you take the ball for 10 minutes to start the game and you get points even as three points i think demico new coming to this game my defense is going to be lights out because this is a matchup ball game right total matchup ball game for houston what does houston do poorly protect the quarterback what does san francisco do poorly rush the quarterback what are we not great at san francisco well you haven't been great running the ball until last week but you're not great outside from personnel standpoint Houston is fucking sticky outside with coverage and the rushers are great. So I think D'emiko knew if you get up in this game, if you possess the football, you'll be fine.

And the thing I love was the quick game from the Texans. CJ Stroud, we've been imploring them to get the fucking ball out. 17 to 21, 151, 2 touchdowns on 128 rating when he released the ball under 2.5 seconds. I think it was a game where they said, hey, bro, just check the ball down, hit the in cuts. get cover three and the flat is vacated you just throw the quick out and they kept it simple they kept things manageable the run game was just annoying enough um and i just want a quick screenshot in the second half if you watch this game and i know nolan did this the first run the first run play of the second half this is this is kind of like encapsulates the whole day you got will mcdonald knifing under mckivitz

christian mcalfre gets the ball in the backfield he's got McIvitz at his legs. He's got Will McDonnell, he's got, not Will McDonnell, Will Anderson up top. He misses the tackle. Then Toeot jumps over McIvitz's body. He's on top. He misses because McCaffrey goes to spin and then Al Shire comes in and just lights him up. He gets hit three, four times behind the line of scrimmage once by his own guy because Will Anderson is just creating so much havoc. You get to third down in the pocket. There is none. It's just fucking both tackles in in mac jones's lap all day long they came out early tried the gap scheme stuff with pullers peter was triggering on the run game those guys were just creating havoc dude it was it was a thing

of beauty when you look at the way houston can win a game this is it if you've never watched football before or you're just learning football if you just watched the houston defense i i swear you would think every time they tackle is a penalty, but it's not. The way they hit violently and it's like, it's legal. Some of the hits yesterday, I'm watching the game. I'm just like, Jesus Christ, like these dudes, everyone is running downhill on a track. And I'm usually, I'm not a big, I'm not a big fan of shoulder tackling and having the chance of missing or having a guy bounce off of you. And I'm always a guy like, yo, just wrap up.

But if you're running downhill like these guys on this defense and you guys are running hard enough just to shoulder guys and have them whiplash. And the first thing is the top of their back hitting the ground. Name play. That happens very frequently when you watch this. They turn people upside down, bro. Kill zone. But even outside the kill zone out on the perimeter, there was a play in the second half where they go perimeter screen to, it's like a swing screen out to McCaffrey. The guys outside are 0 for three getting blocks on these guys, dude.

They're just all knifing under stuff. They're just creating havoc, bro. They play with such a reckless abandon. It's such a shame that the offense didn't better off because this defense, and I know Denver's real good, dude, but this defense is just as good. Yeah. I know offense is sitting and watching tape to play them, whether you think they're good or not. You're just like, shit.

Because every other play is a big hit. Yeah. Now you said, Chris, both sides of the ball. This was just a bad matchup for San Fran. You know, last week you saw them really get that run game going against Atlanta. That's kind of an aberration for what they've been this season. I mean, every other week you take out week seven, bottom five and EPA per rush and rushing success rate. So this Houston defense was on the other side of the line of scrimmage all game.

And on the other side of the ball, you know, you talked about them being able to dominate time of possession. They did just enough in the run game. And that's been kind of a bugaboo for the Texans offense this season, not being able to get the run game going. And it wasn't outstanding in this game, but they were able to consistently get like three yards. And so three yards on first down, three yards on second down, that gives you third and four. And that's a hell of a lot better than third and ten, which is where they've been living all season long. Exactly. And on like third and 11 or third and 13 or whatever it is, they were taking the in cuts and letting guys run out of the catch, whether it was Hutchinson or Schultz. And by the way, like, Noel, his snap counts have gone.

up all season long i think uh he was 17 15 9 17 now you get the jump 21 33 31 and so they come into a game without collins kirk and it's kind of fun to see the rookies kind of grow up a little bit and i think no is a guy that's got to be on the field yeah um and there were two big big plays in this game where on one of them i think bithoon dropped coverage on on um on uh woody marks in the flat and you know he flips yeah yeah the other one possession yeah well was the deep shot and corner gets nosy. I think it was cover three and the safety just can't run with the cross or deep. And so like they took advantage when San Francisco wasn't on their game.

And when they were, they just took the underneath stuff and they had good rack. I mean, it wasn't Tucker Kraft rack. Yeah. But it was good. So this was really good. And they attacked the backers. You know, I thought in short area, you know, Hutchinson looked really good in some short area routes, man. I don't know that every game is going to be able to play out this way for them, but it was a good start for Houston.

If you're the Broncos, you have Houston next week and you saw what C.J. Stroud did short passes, line of scrovia, you know, like you were saying, what are you defensive game plan? What are you guys talking about? What are you targeting? Type man coverage. I mean, you look at this group. They don't have dudes outside. You know, we're talking about, oh, it's good. They're growing up. It's like, what about Bob? It's like baby steps. but that's a big jump going from playing a group fully you know that's a ton of young guys and they did bring more blitz and CJ was really good in those situations made some plays with the legs the whole thing but like Denver is just that much better from a coverage standpoint they're going to they're going to be sticky and and honestly like I haven't looked at it yet but it's hard for me to see a path for them winning that game without keeping the points way down and that's

why I think it's going to be a game where you know you do try to take the the quick the game stuff if it's available to you. Screen games got to be really good. And you've got to attack the linebackers for Denver because of course that's the one thing they're not elite at defensively in my opinion. But that'll be a game that I think is winnable for them. As fucked up as is look for Houston because of the way their defense plays, like they're in a lot of these games. Well, how much chaos can they cause the Texans defense? No question. Unlimited. And in a game like that, if you want to keep the points down you got you know the the the Broncos who bow nicks i love them but you know tosses an interception or two in opportune times um then yeah you got you can you got to hit your deep shots

when you have them you know they they had jennings like in this game and matt kind of put the ball a little bit over his shoulder the wrong way but jennings still got to track the ball and make the play and then hutchins or not hutchison laster made a big play that would have made it a one-score game late intercepting that ball in the end zone just a really tightly contested football. And you know, sorry, just try to cut you off. The other thing I think works in the Broncos favor with this matchup coming up is the Texans defense as fast as they play. It's not a defense from a coverage standpoint that really challenges quarterbacks mentally.

Like, they don't really disguise stuff. So I think Sean Payton will be able to scheme some shots open. It's just about both playing fast and delivering the football. And it's about the run game. The one thing Texans have not done very well at times. is like the interior of the defense has given it up a little bit in the run game so Denver's kind of rounded in the form and when it comes to the run game they've been doing that pretty well all year but I like the looks that they're in right now running the football

and the second half of the Giants game you know the perimeter runs are big for this group so the guys outside like that's going to be an interesting match if you talk about how Denver needs to play better outside blocking well these guys as evidence by yesterday they fly around on the perimeter they have to they have to make they have to make the tackles outside so one one one big big thing for that game next week, Dre Greenlaw back. So we're going to get him off his horrible suspension that wasn't deserved. Awful. And I didn't mention the Broncos.

Should have tackled the ref. Should have challenged that. Yeah. Blue flag. Blue flag. Yeah. Blue flag. Blue flag. And the other thing I meant to mention in the Broncos game, Alex Singleton, huge shout out. You know, it wasn't great in past coverage all year. How many touchdowns is Jake Ferguson have?

I said he was going to have a couple. He didn't have one. Zero. Big week for you, Robert Salon. Got to get that defense back on track. my guy negative three points in fantasy they need to trade for a rush or there's just no way they're otherwise like i look at this team and they're five and three and everything and i try to give them their due this year because i know that they have injuries and that sort of thing but like if they get into playoffs like with this defense they're the greatest well i mean fuck they just played the rams and beat them but i don't think that happens again you know like good luck

covering, you know, Philly with the weapons they have. Good luck. Good luck playing the lions. Good luck to play. There's just, it's not a defense you want to bring into the playoffs. And I do think solid has done a really admirable job. But there's also no rushers available. I feel like there's like four or five teams that are really close and legitimately want

rushers. Like we just talked about the Cowboys. I keep talking about Hendrickson, maybe Tibido, Phillips from Miami. But like how many rushers are really available? Max and Cosby is something. He's not going anywhere. Jermaine Johnson, Chubb, you know, the other one, you know, God, I just had one in my fucking head. Well, you mentioned Jalen Phillips.

I'm going to talk about Henderson. He said Henderson, Crosby. Can you get traded twice in one year? Yeah. Like, where did a clownie just go? I think you can. Where did he just go to? He went to Dallas.

Oh, no, he went to Dallas. Yeah, but you got to get out of there. Could be a good time for like a vet guy who's in great shape to, like, come off the couch. You know what I mean, Chris? You know, Green Bay, yeah, sure. I couldn't turn my neck the other morning when I woke up. So just don't hit me in the neck, you know, but I watched some of the tackle play in today's NFL. And I'm kind of like, oh, maybe a little new genetics.

No, but I'm trying to think who, yeah, yeah, from her, oh, the other guy is your guy. Like you can break the band up down in Jacksonville. They're not going to do it, but Trayvon Walker, something like that. I don't know. Like, that's the problem. Teams looking for rushers and looking for corners. It's kind of a fucking, the coverage is not bare necessarily, but it's just not great. And by the way, the Rams just traded for Roger McCreary.

And so they add a piece of their secondary and they're teams that Quietus kept should be buying because they're like contenders. But like you kind of beat the other teams that need a corner of the punch. Do you think we'll be alive for NFL, like NFL, like, D-League, like how they have MAA D-League that's running alongside of the season and like you can pull guys up. Like if you need your team, you think that's something the NFL would have to do with. I think the NFL would be well served to have a farm system because it does feel like depth is getting worse and worse.

But I think, and like we're seeing this year, it's just like if you go through a season where this- That's supposed to be like the NFL or college football, but. Yeah. But these guys, like, getting hurt and having to just jump into game reps. Yeah. It's, it's, it, if it, if it's not, like the, the NFL, whatever these spring leagues are, you need it happening in the fall.

Yeah. These guys are playing, they're interactive and calm them up or whatever. Well, it's not like anybody's watching this stuff anyways, respectfully, you know, so it's like, well, we got to get to the spring where people watch, like, well, they're kind of not, you know, maybe take like. I just say like a year like this. Maybe take like Friday nights in the fall or something. Like, you know, like play like four games.

Friday night lights. Friday nights. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because it's just like a season like this, like where I don't even know statistically if we're having more injuries than usual. I think we are. There's always injuries. There's always a bunch of injuries.

But when we're just seeing it at the clip that we're seeing it now in the positions and how it's happening to teams all at once, I just feel like this is, that's the only thing that can like really drop like, not the viewership or just the quality of games and what we're seeing on the field when guys aren't really ready to play. Yeah, quality of play and officiating and the fact that like, again, like quarterbacks are dropping like flies. And I do think as the year's gone on, it's crazy because there's a lot of pretty good teams and there's a lot of not great team. Yeah. And there's very few like super elite teams. Mm-hmm.

So it's kind of a wild year. Yep. Anyways, it is time to board the jet. Meow. Don't do that. Don't make those jokes. Oh, my God. The Bengals.

Well, that's why we're leading with the Bengals. They try to meme that joke. It's a segue. Man, it's dynamite segue. I might add. The cats are, you can put them on the grill. This is a game that, to me, and the only thing that they have going for them is, and we'll talk about the Ravens in a little bit, but, like,

I think the Ravens are going to win the division. The Ravens are going to win the division. That's not his thing's going to head. Because, and honestly, they'd be a lot. We'll get there in a second. But this is the Hemingway game. It's the drunk game. It's New York at Sinci.

You know, and I guess it was drunk in that the Bengals will a two-score lead to a team with a quarterback who the fucking owner just called out, a team that's missing their best offensive and defensive players. They're missing Sauce Gardner. they're missing, Gare Wilson. Just like, how do you lose this game? Well, I'll tell you how you lose it, because your defensive personnel is,

it's just cratered with Trey Henderson out of the game. And I will say this about the tackles. They both pitch shutouts, Mambu and Fashano. How was that not a penalty? They were, the hit on Henderson. So, blocking the back? So I don't, I don't think the guy,

I don't think it's dirty. No, no, no, no, I'm just, I don't think it's a block in the back either, not one that usually gets cold. Like honestly, and for people that say it's dirty, like, number one, the guy immediately was like, oh, fuck, sorry, Trey. You know, like, because he thought Trey was spinning back. And usually you are spinning back in that situation and you get that big face up deeply. But Trey did not spin back and the guy had just made a decision to go clean his clock. And obviously, the fact that Trey gets hurt on the play, draws a lot of attention to it.

They also came out and ran three straight run plays like at Trey. in this game. So you know that like in this game, I'm not sure that Aaron Glenn and the OC said this out loud, but like it's kind of like cut the head off the snake, the body will die, which is like kind of a bad thing to say at football. But it is like if you can if you can fluster Trey Henderson, slow him down. If you can get physical with him, you know, guys, take your shots. I think that's what it was and it ended up being unfortunately an injury for Trey Henderson. I don't think it was dirty. I think you've been hard pressed to see a penalty there. But when he left the game they had nothing nothing and and it was just justin fields back there baking a cake and it's

honestly in a universe where the rushers don't the rushers aren't in his face like just field is is a pretty fucking good quarterback he just processes slow we know that about about him at this point but in a game where you can't rush him and you're giving up 50 yard rushes like i thought isaiah davis was great got to get used to a bigger workload because bruce hall is going to look great in Houston. And a great blitz pickup on battle on a key fourth and one for him. I thought there were multiple moments in this game where Sinci blitz, like they blitz on one of the touchdowns and 27 came in there and I think it was battle choked it down like majorly. And he had a free shot on Justin Fields. I know you're worried about like Justin Fields, you know, run ability. But since he just,

there's a lot of bad ball on tape defensively. They're not going to be able to overcome it. I mean, The back-up quarterback almost puts up 40 points and you lose a game. It's the fucking sucks. The Joe Flack-Soe, the Joe Flacco flex-seal, is it peeling off a little bit? Well, no, Joe Flacco, flex-seal on the offense works great, but like the problem is the defense in a game like this where you're up two scores late in the game. Too much. Jets own T. O.P. Time possession in the fourth quarter.

And it is hard to blame the offense except for the fact they got the ball back without seven to go. The drive before they score in five minutes, they run the ball seven of eight times. They throw the ball twice and then take a sack. It's a one-minute possession. Then they give the ball back, and I want to give the Jets a lot of credit. I thought Engstrand called a much better game. Of course, there's a pretty soft landing for him. But they milk almost the entire clock.

Get down into low red. It was the clocks working against the Bengals at that point. And then Breeze Hall with a really, really creative. Touchstyle play. And a nice throw. Taylor just kind of, you know, binks the fucking. the defender in the end zone is Taylor had a good game blocking, catching the football. It was just a heroic win for the Jets, man.

It feels good to get that first win, brought in there. Did you peep before the final drive, the Bengals, you peep Browning getting ready, thinking that he was possibly. Oh, yeah, no, I didn't see that. So Joe Flacko, I guess I ran back into the locker room for something or whatever. And so when that, he was. He wasn't on the sideline when the last drive was about the start. And they just have the camera on Browning.

And he's like, he's getting ready. He's like looking with the guys. And then they just show a spotlight and Joe Flacko running without his helmet back to the spotlight and just like grabs his helmet from someone in stride and just throws it on like, oh, let's let's get this final drive in. Running was pissed, I'm sure. But the final drive, the whole thing is like, you know, they go to Yoshivas twice with the game on the line and like he's disappointing me man he's a good player i think i think an approach

at that point with all the timeouts you have would have been a lot more early down like dink and dunk just because all you're after is a field goal and uh and and and they went to him twice sherwood sat underneath the dig and kind of saw it um on first down and the problem is the pressure just ratchets up you know i think will macdonald won on a on a game or no it was jermaine johnson went on a game late you know on third down or whatever wasn't you know you just didn't want to be sitting there in third and ten but because you tricked it off on early downs then you find yourself going to yoshivas on fourth and ten wasn't didn't they do that a couple times like a time or two earlier this season it might have been the the the packers game that they lost by lost by nine but

they went to yoshavos i trust yosh vows he'd be open that's the thing about it he just got to come down he was covered on fourth and ten i mean like he's got to make that play but it's right at the sticks yeah and then the ball that he threw in the middle of field the dig was like three people converging on it and he kind of banking on jimar chase pulling the backer up they didn't bite on it and they played behind it so you know like i i i wanted to nitpick on you know the bangles but i thought the one nitpick i have is like hey run the ball when when there's seven minutes left to go in the game you've been doing that at a really high level and then you know when you get the ball at the end of the game maybe maybe don't be so kind of it seemed reckless with your with your with your snaps dude

You mentioned Tainer Angstrand. He ran the same play on this. Shocker. That he ran against the Jets in 2022 for a first down that him and Ben Johnson fired up. I saw this. Yeah. So this was, I mean, we can't show it, but that was the Jets. Tide didn't leak out across the formation into the flat.

Exact same play. Yeah. Impressive. Yeah. That he brought it back. Well, it's a good sign. I mean, like, you need this. You need this momentum.

We'll see if it carries over. They've scored points before this year. And then, you know, they had these big dips. So, like, you know, Jets aren't going anywhere, but it's really good to get that win, man. I've been there. I can't remember the longest time it's taken for my team, a team that I've been on to get a win. But I think it was like eight, nine weeks. Well, and for Justin Fields, like how you, we talked about earlier, your owner comes after you.

And then after the game, he gets to say about Woody Johnson's comments, that's outside noise at the end of the day. I get that he's the owner of the team, but that's outside noise. Like that's just, that's an awesome thing to be able to say. The one thing I've always liked about Justin Fields is he's an adult, dude. He's classy. He says the right things. He, you know, I think his shortcomings are things that are kind of out of his control. I think, like, he, I don't know if it's going to take getting in a spot where, I mean, look at the coordinators he's had so far in his career.

You know, like nobody's set in the world on fire. I'd like to see him end up somewhere at some point with one of these, like, like gurus for a year and just see what happens. You know, like, because some of the throws are beautiful, but of course, it's against the Bengals and he's got all day to do it. It's a processing thing with him. It's a processing thing. You think it's cool to tell the media that you were in the closet this week cried? What? Oh, he said that. Yeah. After the game. There's nothing wrong with that facts. Let me, you know, men can be emotion. After this game. After this game. He's happy tears, bro.

He said, he was talking about during the game that he was dealing with some adversity during the week. And, you know, the owner is making comments about him publicly. Obviously, they hadn't had a win yet at this point. He got an encouraging text from his mom. And then someone else who seemed to be like a mother figure in his life. He got very emotional about it. So he just wanted to share that. Well, you know what?

Share it or not. I just most people don't really know what that feels like to be him. And, you know, it's impossible. I understand for most people to have any empathy for somebody who's making $40 million to play quarterbacks for the Jets. But, you know, he's already rich. It's not like, it's not like, you know, he's worried, he's worried about his next meal. It's a thing where, you know, you only get one chance to play football in the NFL. And for him, it's easy to say, like, well, go home with all your money and just be happy.

But if people are calling you names and you calling you a bust or whatever it is, like that doesn't feel good. and you know, to end up on his third team and be winless like eight, eight games in the season and the owner to make a point to call you out. I've never heard that before. And he's in New York. It's the, it's one of the biggest markets. As quiet as the jets have been,

still people are like gawking it, how terrible they are. And he's taking a lot of the brunt. And he should have, after that Denver game for sure. I just, it's really hard to overcome that stuff mentally. Now, I know people aren't going to feel bad for him,

but he's a human being, dude. He's a fucking human being. I agree, Chris, and let's not forget. Let's keep it 100 real quick. Like, emotional time for that organization on Sunday over the weekend with, you know, the passing of Nick Mangold. Just a lot of emotions, I think, through that building and happy that the Jets could get a win, you know, I feel for him. Yeah, I feel for him. And, you know, the Mangold thing, dude, like, I thought he was asking for a kidney like a week ago and I was just insane that it went downhill so fast. Like, I'm going to talk about it later.

but just uh we had him on the show a couple years ago when he came to the super bowl and like did one of our live shows and just a a gentleman dude just a really sweet person dude you know like and all his teammates the way they've always talked about him and hearing Rex Ryan talk about him like all choked up like that it's hard man it's hard it's hard it's hard getting old because you you start just more and more of this stuff happens whether it's like the Doug martin thing it's a totally different thing or it's nick mangold and it's totally out of his control and he you you're you You know, he's got kidney disease or whatever it is, bro. I'm 40 years old, and I've seen way too many guys that I played with and against pass away already.

It's fucking nuts, dude. So just appreciate every day. Check on your people. You want to talk about some symbolism in this game. Mason Taylor caught the game-winning touchdown. He's son of Jason Taylor, Mangold's teammate in 2010. And then Nick Fultke kicked the game-winning P-A-T. He was Nick Mangold's teammate from 2010 to 2016.

The win, the game happened 47 miles. away from Centerville, Ohio, where Mengold was born. Wow. Wow. It's a lot of cool ties. And you know you had the DT thing last week. It's just. Back to back, yeah.

It's tough, man. It is, fuck. It's crazy. Just like being human beings for a second. It's just, I'm 40 years old. You'll know what I mean if you're younger than me, whether you played football or not. Like, as you get older, you're just, you just terrible things happen to people you know. And it's like, it happens at a higher and higher rate.

And if you play in the NFL, chances are, You know, we're kind of rally cars. We're not really built to last. Now, I know the Nick Mangold thing had nothing to do with it, but it's a hard lifestyle. And I'm always bracing myself to be like, what's next, man? That's a heartbreaking deal. So, you know, our thoughts are with the Mangold family. And with all the guys that play with them and coached him, it's not easy losing a teammate

or somebody that you even played against or competed against, man. Been there already. And it's getting old. so um in in remembrance of nick mangle there were some great uh stories shared yesterday one of them was a resurfacing of rex ryan telling a story about when nick mangle got paid and he's like i'm worried that money's going to go to his head i was in the taco bell drive-thru last night and who was in front of me nick mangold yeah that's that's that's that's a hilarious deal he was a he was down-to-earth dude and uh and i just always liked him i thought he was he was classy and uh a great

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Yeah. That was great. Yeah, it was a classic. Like, it was just me. Sorry about that Jordan Love. So now we go to Baltimore. where the Baltimore Ravens get a big win, keeping their season alive.

Like, listen, listen, here's the Ravens hopes to mirror this. And at this point. Peking the wing out the grill. Yeah, they're trying to. Peaking the wing out there. Yeah, there's a little wing. Maybe a little beak. But here's their hopes.

They got the dolphins, the Vikings, the Browns, all on the road. How they play on the road over the next three weeks is going to be big. And then they get the Jets, Bengals, and Steelers. I believe at home. So you've got six weeks here with opponents like that. And you look at all those opponents like, I expect them to beat the dolphins. Okay, like the way the Vikings are playing quarterback right now,

I expect them to beat the Vikings. I don't know, dolphins are kind of nasty. One eye, two, a fucking eye on those receivers. It's also the Falcons. And I gave the Falcons out last week, because I'm an idiot,

and I didn't know that Pennix was down. And Kirk Cousins, yes, not good. It's not good. And the Falcons are just a fucking different team every week. So anyways, I just, there's ways that the Ravens can get in this. You look at the Steelers, they still, the next six weeks for them, the Colts, Chargers,

Bengals, Bengals, Bears, Bill, Ravens. The Bengals next six weeks, well, it really shouldn't matter because you should be doing a yard sale right now. Bears, Steelers, Pats, Ravens, Bill's, Ravens. Okay, so you look at the Ravens six games. You see how I think they're going to climb back in this thing and win it. I really do. And it's not based off of yesterday. I would have said that before yesterday's game.

I gave the Ravens out not knowing about the Lamar thing, as most people did. Luckily, I hadn't bet it yet, but, you know, staring at the screen Sunday, and I'm like, damn, they might cover anyways. The bear is just, you know, I think the one takeaway, and we'll get talking about the Lamar thing for the Ravens. I got the rug game going, and Snoop Huntley should be offended, honestly, that he wasn't the guy. Snoo. Because, like, he's, I don't know if that was, like, punishment for him going away. Seriously. That would be ridiculous.

No, but I mean, honestly, it's so simple. Right. It drives me crazy. Bro, this guy's already won football games for you. He knows the system, which is a very unique system. And he ran it in a different way than Lamar runs it yesterday with a lot of timing. And maybe they need more of that when Lamar gets back on us. We always complain about the boom or bust nature of that, that offense.

Like maybe play with a little bit more timing. But the big story to me is Bears fans. And the truth is always somewhere in between. between on your favorite quarterback. I think that's the lesson. Like, you know, I had Bears fans taking a victory lap. Like, this is the best quarterback in the class, like starting about a month ago, after two weeks earlier, I said he's going to be fine. And people are saying, I'm crazy because he didn't play well against Detroit or he didn't play. And then he doesn't play well in Washington. And, you know, you say, hey, the guy didn't play that well. And people want to, here's the deal. He's got to

play better. He's got to play better. I think they're running the ball really well. I think he made some amazing throws in the game. He always does. He puts some balls, some places on ropes that I'm like, damn, dude. He really has all the tools in his body. And I think the maturation process for him is going fine. It is essentially his rookie year. Okay. It is essentially his rookie year because last year, you can kind of throw that out of the window. I thought we just saw the tip of the iceberg about how bad things were in Chicago. I think Ben's going to have him right at some point, but he's not there yet, okay? And again, good things in the run game. I think Darnel Wright's just a fucking stud. They're running behind him. He's moving furniture around. They stress Baltimore's man coverage early,

moved the pocket, but they couldn't score in the red zone. They turned it over. Okay, and they committed penalties, 11 for 79, including two groundings, which are on the quarterback, and one of them at the end of the half and it is the quarterback leads to a clock mismanagement incident which cost you points and so you know i i think the wiggins play backed up is unfortunate because the dunes they had been getting whatever he wanted in man coverage but he's eyeing him down and he's running a deep over or dig i can't remember which one it was but you know wiggins ran the route for him and he's a hell of a player i think when you look at the the ravens something you got to be excited about coming out of this game is roquan smith looked a lot better i thought early in the season roquan smith looked like like he

had lost the step maybe he had some injury that he needed a little bit of time you know he just comes back from um getting a little rest here and he looked really fresh um obviously uh obviously Kyle Hamilton's a stud did you see Kyle Hamilton picking Joe tuning on third down yep and then he's in the he's looking like Dante high tower out there man and he should be in the box so he should be in the box So we kind of hypothesized. He was past rushing. He had two pressures. He's a beat.

He did a good job in the past rush. We hypothesized that with the Gilman trade, he would be kind of become more of that, like, in the box weapon for them. 20 snaps on ball, 18 in the box, 25 in the slot. So, you know, kind of picked up Gilman to play deep safety so they can kind of weaponize him there. I think you're going to see a lot of nickel for them and a lot of dime, too. That's what they did yesterday with bringing a woozy in. and then you have Hamilton and Marlon Humphrey playing in the slot on both sides. If they can just turn him loose, you know, it's exactly what he said, turn him loose,

make him the guy in the box. He's your best player. He's your best player. Make him affect every snap, you know, like don't do. The further way he moves from the ball, the easier it is to work around him. Yep. And, you know, when he's down in there and you saw him on third down, I mentioned that play because I swear to you, go watch that play.

It's one of the single most, like, athletic plays I see on the field on a Sunday is like this guy coming from depth picking a guard which is usually the the job of a linebacker in a pressure like that and then beating everybody else to Caleb Williams he speeds up off of Joe Tooney it's crazy to see him work down in there so I just thought like the red zone stuff kind of sucked for the bears um the penalties sucked and the quarterback just needs to be more consistent that's all like he he makes the the high end plays he just has to be more consistent I think it'll take time I think Ben will get him there. But it's sobering for Bears fans because, you know, I know some Bears fans that said they're going to win the next five or six and, you know, it's going to be a parade and the whole thing like,

man, like, I know you've been waiting a long time. He is the guy. Just give him some time. Don't put the cart before the horse. I think for Baltimore was do or die and they put together their best game in a while without Lamar Jackson. The, if you're a Bears fan, turn your ears off, but the Bears have scored 168 points through eight weeks this season. In 2024, they scored 163. Last year, they were four in three. This year, they're four and three. And what were they, what were they two years ago when we were having this fierce argument about the quarterback and how the quarterback's going to change everything immediately? Like, that was the caution on trading away a bunch of capital and, you know, or, you know, losing out on trading away a bunch of capital and moving out of that

spot and figuring it out. But I still think you've got the franchise player. It's just going to take a little time. What do you need to see from him next week against the Bengals? It's a defense that, you know, we just saw without Trey Hendrickson. They don't have much. Whether they have Trey Henderson or not next week, like what is a- I want to see sharp operation. I want to see no penalties. I want to see run game and I want to see third down be really crisp. Like it just, to me, it's about like consistency avoiding the big penalties, avoiding the, the, the, the, the, errant throws in situations where you got to have it and avoiding you know in the red zone the the one play that fucks you you know because that's kind of that's kind of what what's plagued them a

little bit um and so you know i i think more so from the raven's point of view um just a game that you had to win and you did and for the bears this is this is going to be a journey man it's a journey you know it's just going to take some time you've already been sitting there uh along for the ride through all this bullshit if you're a bear's fan like you know just wait another couple months or it might be a year um this team's going to grow up it's just not going to happen by week eight of ben johnson's rookie season as head coach and the other thing though that's on him is the penalties yes okay like clean them up because i don't know how detroit is from a penalty standpoint last year offensively but i'm pretty sure they were better than the bears have been so far and part of that

the quality of the players you have on the field. It's also, it reflects on the offensive coach. And you mentioned the Bears Red Zone, the first three games, they were six of seven on Red Zone possessions. In their past four games, they're five of 16. Yeah, it's not good. Not good. I think something that will be good to see from Caleb Williams

kind of down the second half of the stretch of the season, it's just becoming more in command of the game management aspect of playing QB. You mentioned that sequence before the half. You know, it made me think back to, you know, Thanksgiving last year, year against the lines when, you know, that was part, part head coach, but it was also part quarterback. Just kind of, you want your quarterback to be really a master of situations out there. So seeing him take that step would be big for this offense. No question. No question. I got confidence in him. I mean, we talk privately all the time. It's not that we don't like Caleb Williams.

I just think this thing's gotten to be like politics where your favorite team's quarterback's got to be the best one in the class. And, you know, quiet as kept, like Drake May was getting ready to to put his foot on everybody else's throat this year. And he's in the MVP conversation. I thought Jaden Daniels was the guy. And the night is still young. But right now it does not look like, you know, and I heard a month ago, you know, Bears fans saying like,

Jaden Who, like totally ignoring the other guy who's out playing both of them in New England. Just let the trust the process. Let the process process. It's so funny you bring that up. I was thinking about that today. Like every week, there's a couple of minutes where I'm like trying to figure out like, all right, what am I going to say about Caleb Williams today?

Because it is like this hot button topic. And as I was thinking about that, this is where I just looked it up. I was like, this guy's 23 years old. We're going to be talking about him for 20 years. Another 13 years, like at least. Crazy. Because he is a pro level quarterback, dude. He's polarizing though because he's so, he, dude, sometimes a ball leaves his hand and you're just like, oh, God, that's so pure.

You know what I mean? And you want more of it. And I think he's sweet. He's just kind of like adversarial in the media a little bit. And I feel like that kind of adds fuel to the fire. So what you guys are talking about, what you want to see from him? I want to see a little bit of leadership.

You know what I mean? Like fucking grab the team by the helm and just like, you're playing the Bengals, all right? They're not fucking. Also, look how long. Go out there, be efficient and get it done. Look how long. It took Josh Allen a second.

Like, okay, he's one of the best quarterbacks in league. Patrick Mahomes sat for a second. You know, Joe Burrow came out there and, you know, He was ready to rock and everything. But like it doesn't happen that way with every quarterback. And I don't know, man. Just just have a little patience. You know, everybody could use a little patience.

Every week where this team's terrible, this team's good. Then the next week it's, you know, the polar opposite. And so we didn't used to do this with quarterbacks because we didn't have a forum to overdiagnose and discuss every week. And now it's like everybody's got a damn opinion. and you have access to every opinion. Just watch the games. It's going to take time. Watch the tape.

Watch the games. Okay. Indy at Tennessee. Was that the next one? Yeah. I'm going to let you guys have this one because I had an indie first half and then I kind of like, oh my God, Joey Sly. Holy shit, indie first half minus nine and a half.

He pushed it. He pushed it. Great guy. hokey but uh i was cussing at him sunday when he missed that kick and and it worked um the one thing i want to say is great wide receiver play for indy i mean i think are they are these guys is underrated and we said this all year the guys outside but like are they as underrated as anybody in the league because whether it's pierce on a 50 50 ball or and daniel jones unlocking it the protections that allow him to to sit back there and fire that javelin to pierce or you know the fucking there was

Pittman caught a ball that hit him in the face. Not a twice. And then he, and then he came up with it somehow. And then the other one, the ball at the pylon that he catches behind him with one hand, I don't want to be caught up in the moment, but is there a better catch you'll see? I swear this year. I think Daniel Jones threw it so hard that it stuck. I said it stuck right in the Joe Flacco to Jamar Chase.

Yes. put that in Joe, no question. Almost like the same thing. But it's one of those things. It's showing how accurate some of these quarterbacks are. And I just feel like because we play football and we've been around football, we can see a pass like that and be like, holy shit.

Did you just see what happened? Yes, amazing catch. But did you see where the quarterback put that ball only where your guy basically has a chance or it's going to be an incompletion, like no chance for an interception in a play like that. It's very, very impressive. They're just, they're just tough to deal with, man. Like, I'm yet to see a defense have an answer. And if they both, if Daniel Jones and Jonathan Taylor both keep playing at this clip and they keep winning,

like, how would you choose MVP? Will it be John? Give it to JT. Come on. Just give it to him. Because, like, this team with no run game, I don't know. what they look like. And I'm not taking anything away from Daniel Jones.

But Daniel Jones in the Pro Bowl. Give Daniel Jones a comeback player a year. I think on the show, I don't get a lot of these right. The preseason, like, this is what happens. But I think I said Daniel Jones comeback player a year. He should, now I know there's some people that say you have to get hurt or like fucking, you know, like, but this guy coming back from being the laughing stock, bro. Yeah.

He's, he is legitimately, if his name one, Daniel Jones, we would be having this conversation a lot more about the B. One of the best, one of the best memes of the year so far is from scary movie, the Officer Duffy meme. And he's like, he's acting like, how do I access this meme? He's acting like he's slow. And there's a scene where he's kind of like, he starts walking out of somewhere where people think he's kind of like mentally challenged. And then he starts ripping off his stuff. And he turned into like this. I forgot about Officer Duffy. He turns in. into this well-bodied, like,

like supermodel dude just walking down the street. And like they're showing that like giants, Daniel Jones. I'll do you want better. The Kaiser Soze, Lynn. Yeah. Just fucking. Daniel Jones. No, I mean, Daniel Jones is incredible.

And there's people comparing Sequan's last season to Jonathan Taylor's season here. And honestly, like, let me take the Philly out of it. I don't know. I don't know how you could say one's much different than the other statistically. I mean, like, and what you're seeing is, I mean, also that, that Eagles offensive line last year was just, they were cooking with gas.

And this is an incredible offensive line, but I don't know that they're the group that the Eagles had last year. Wait, Stakewan had 15 all of last season. Yes, but the one different, so Seqon had 15 total touchdowns last year. Jonathan Taylor's 14 total touchdowns this season. The one big difference, is that Jalen Hertz had however many one-yard touchdown runs,

that this, that, you know, could, you could argue would have gone to Sequin Barclan. No, but it's true. Yeah, it's true. It is. I mean, if we're going to do it off of touchdowns, that's one thing. But Jonathan Taylor is having the kind of year where you can talk about him in the light that you were talking about Sequin last year. And at a minimum.

He's going to be over 2,000 all-purpose yards for sure. I feel like- Yeah. Oh, for sure. At a minimum. At a minimum. Like, 24-00. Yes. Even if you, like, table the MVP conversation for a second, is there anybody who has a

an argument over him for OPOY. Probably not. No. He can't even close. And he'll need to last year I think he bought all of the offensive line. J.S.N. J.S.N.'s got an argument, but this guy is no way.

He's the... I mean, he leads the league in rushing yards, rushing T.Ds. He's also top five in receptions and receiving yards. That's the thing. That's the thing. He can dump it down to him and fucking kill people. And you watch, he ran away for touchdowns yesterday where he should have been tackled six different times or any other running back

wouldn't have been able to stay in bounds. There was one where he tipped out, tiptoed down the sideline for 20 yards. I don't have to stay in bounds, yeah. It was insane. And he out around the backside safety too. Yeah. It's fucking nice.

And honestly, it didn't look like he was running at 100% at the end of that play. He was just kind of dry. He knew he was going to score. Now this image right here, I mean, the tweet is captioned with, if you're on your couch right now, if you'd never played it down in the NFL,

could you gain a yard as a like. And you know what? There were some situation. And no one's arguing with Sequin Barclay being one of the best runnerbacks on the planet. And last year he was absolutely the best runner back on the planet. But he ran through some truck size holes as well. Yeah, be fair.

Also this, J. Lamarren could pull that soccer goal through that. Yeah. Right. Look at this. I mean, it's insane that this offensive line is giving. I mean, look at how much space he has to operate. And so he need last year, I forgot. I forgot what Jonathan Taylor got his offensive line last year,

but he's going to need to double it or something this year. This is what a Simmons list defense looks like first. And it's only going to get worse if they ship them off. So you better hope you guys got some flexial guys maybe coming to that defense or something. I think it's probably just picks, right? Titans, we're looking into the horizon, you know, for the future. Yeah, there's no reinforcements coming in Tennessee, man. And that in itself is like that game, in my opinion is an argument in favor of moving Simmons to get some draft capital so you can get a few more guys.

I mean, just. Evidently they said that two guys that aren't for sale are. And it was funny because Schaefter was like, there's two people that they're not willing to trade. The quarterback. I was like, I'm telling. And the defense's tackle. But, you know, we hear that stuff all the time. and what it can do is almost implore an interested party in overpaying.

Of course. I got these cheeseburgers, man. That's what we just did down in Jacksonville. Liam Cohen. You ain't slick. We are not interested in trained Brian Thomas Jr. Yes, the hell we are. You're interested in the postseason and you're interested in winning.

So that means he is up for grabs. If we get a good enough offer, that's on the other team. But, yeah, upper grabs is probably the wrong terminology because we haven't been coming. You guys have probably dropped it for drops. Exactly. Y'all are a hard team to figure out because, like, I'm not sold on the quarterback. And the defense isn't that good, but you don't want to trade either the rushers. So, like, as far as, like, people to sell, like, I don't know if you would sell Brian Thomas Jr.

I got to trade for you. What? Eagles take Tutin and Brian Thomas Jr. And we'll take the cancer, A.J. Brown out of your locker room. No. Yeah, hard fast. You need a... No.

No. I don't think... Can you even trade A.J. Brown because of the contract? I don't know. Isn't that kind of like... No, I mean... I don't think... Which is why the whole, like, you know, the Eagles...

AJ Brown's selling his house, which that wouldn't eat. There was a, it got me for a second. Somebody sent it to me. I'm like, fuck, AJ Brown's selling his house. It was me. And then I find out that he's in Haddonfield. Yeah. He lives in Jersey.

He lives in the different state. But he did. He did last night. Here's another thing for you. He did do this. He did delete all of the, all of the tweets that had Jalen Hurts. That had Jalen Hertz. Was that all he deleted, though?

Yeah, I think so, man. But again, you sent me the. Haddonfield, the chestnut hill all I'm saying, man, all I'm saying is you don't like, when you guys are winning I'm not saying there's nothing wrong why? How would you move him? The only person I'd

the only way I'd trade AJ Brown is if we were going to get a transcendent defensive player. How about this? Five sacks yesterday. Yeah. And how how great would that be for him? How great would that be for him? For him mentally? You want it?

You want to you want to pout on a winning team? go to Cleveland. But I'm always, I've always been a big AJ fan. So I just, I just love the way he plays. I understand there's frustration. I don't agree with all the ways he's handled it.

But he's also really hard to move, I think, from a, from a money standpoint. Like, he's not going to get traded, right? Like,

this is all, there's no fucking way. I just don't think it's, I think it's very unlikely. And who's a team that would want A.J. Brown bad enough. A lot. Oh, no,

I'm just saying like who's willing to part ways with the capital in a current situation where New England. Oh. New England is it. Niners. Or Pittsburgh? It's like the biggest. No,

New England. New England got him. I think New England's, but beyond that. Because that's a coach. Brable wants him back, bro. Exactly. And that's a coach that can go in there and be like,

AJ, cut the shit. Like, we're going to get you the ball when we can. We're winning. Cut the shit. Like cut the shit Because that's what someone needs to say

Say to him Because bro, you're an amazing player Like you should be a leader on this team We're winning games, dude We're winning games We still have a lot of season to go You're gonna have a thousand yards You're gonna get your, you're gonna get

You're I don't even know what you want Like what does he want Like honestly I'm gonna tell you what he wants He wants to be in one of these offenses That he looks at that doesn't sputter half the time. I'm just, you know, like, are you with AJ Brown? Not me. No, I hear you. Like, you know, like it's not the most efficient passing offense. Yeah. It is, it is a,

from a top end standpoint, like what he did in the Minnesota game. I think he had four catches. And they're all like home runs. I think he wants more opportunities to, to have the ball in his hands. I don't know. This is me guessing it. And how old is A.J. Brown? He's 28, 29. 28? That's, that's, that's, that's, that's, Oh, what do you got? 28. And, yeah, speaking to the Eagles real fast, Dom DeSandra dropped off some pizza and cheese steak.

Oh, that's great, man. Any canoleys for Scatabob? Scatabotabot. I'm sure. Yeah, I'm sure there are some. So the tweet is from Jeff McLean, Camp Scataboobo or Spoo, had a surprise visitor at Penn Presbyterian on Monday.

And that's funny because Dom calls everybody boo. Eagles do it all, Chief of Security. Dom Desandro, who dropped off pizza and cheese steaks for the Giants rookie while he was still at the Philly Hospital after dislocating his ankle on Sunday. That's fucking cool, man. Tom's a good dude. Classy. I was proud of Eagles fans

kind of giving him a standing ovation that was a great standing o. Yeah. Very surprising from a fan base like you guys. I don't want to say it. That's very, that's very good to see. Speaking of A.J. Brown's future home,

Cleveland, New England. Woo. Mew. Man, what a ridiculous ball I saw. him throw on the it was the left side of the field down by the end zone i didn't watch this whole game i watched miles garrett sacks it was close early yeah we only has one you said pause after i said miles garrett sacks how can we talk ball um i just say this about miles garrett the guys on the radio like last week that were just

dogging Miles Garrett or like two weeks ago I saw some guys on the radio it was like he's fucking terrible like he's invisible like terrible they said that they were like he's invisible he doesn't make any plays I'm like all right so just wait when he gets five sacks in the game

like is what are you gonna say I mean he and he did it this week he had five fucking sacks and half of them more than half of him he's getting chipped he's getting chipped he's getting chipped he's making a move on the chipper he's squaring back up getting to power he did a lot better this this week playing off the chips but um

just i don't think will campbell had ever seen somebody who and i think will campbell's going to be a really good player already is a good player but he's never seen anybody who gets chipped and gets back to full speed like that like when you're playing off a chip like your feet stop for a second his doesn't and the minute his feet stopped miles garrett took two steps and was at his back hip dude that covers like three yards in one step. And it's funny. And it's funny because they kept saying it on the commentary. He's literally doing a basketball Euro step.

Like he's pass rushing and he's using basketball moves. And just his, how big his stride is and how strong he is, like it doesn't look like he's doing a lot. But just like you said, for tackles to like have to deal with that and realize his strength in real time like, yo, like I can't, I can't. I can't move him. Yeah. And he's always just going forward. But he lost 30 to 7 or whatever it was. Or not even because they blew the over because they let the Brown score one more time, I think.

32.13. It was so fucked up. But, he's the fourth player in NFL history to lose a game despite having five or more sacks. And I thought it was more. Did the Falcons lose that game when Adrian Claiborne had five? You know who another one was? Adrian Claiborne. No, they were.

Howie Long. Howie long. That's right. Howie long at Mike. With the Raiders, 1983 commanders lost 35 to 37. Well, he should have done more, Howie. Should have done more, Howie. Should have had six.

Like, here's my one thing, my one thing that I'm going to say bad, somewhat bad about Miles Garrett and how kind of this situation is all his fault. Because, bro, you said you wanted to get traded. It's all his fault? He said he wanted to get traded.

And then he was like, no, I want to stay in Cleveland. I understand. So it's like, it's like, bro. Like I understand if you want to do the, what, who is it, Joe Thomas, like the old lineman? If you want to do that thing, then it's like, yeah. But hell nah, bro, not there. I don't know, I don't know though. Since when have we started blaming a guy for getting paid?

Like, I just, no, not. And why does it matter? Why isn't allowed to be frustrated after a loss? No, he, that's the funniest thing, though. I mean, like, I can't. Yeah. Because from a personal standpoint, if you want out, somewhere bad enough and you know what it's like like then you wait it out exactly like also like

the amount of money that they were like well here is yeah no you know like nobody's turning that down i think honestly this is the best right this is the best case for why you free this man and move him because you just lost 32 to 13 it's not even a close football game and he's got five fucking sacks if i'm an older hell this is why i'm never moving him because he had five Five sacks. And every jersey in that stadium, if you didn't have a Miles Garrett jersey and you're a Browd's fan, whether you know what's going on a night. Oh, Schlesinger is going to sell out pretty soon. You probably, you probably grab the jersey on the way out.

Five sacks. They just need to draft the white running back again. There's an opportunity cost to that decision. It's two ones. Yep. That'll get you your next QV. Dude, two ones are definitely going to get you next QB. And depending on who it is, maybe they're, you know, you'd ship to somebody who's going to need him bad enough that they're not.

at the bottom of the first round. But like, I just, he's 29 years old or whatever he is. Like, is this team that close? Is the quarterback draft class next year very good? Not per our guy. Okay, so like, who's gonna play quarterback next year for the Cleveland Browns? I know some people think there's a guy on the bench

who's gonna be the franchise quarterback, but no offense to Shador Sanders, but I don't think so. I don't think there's, I don't think there's, what's the path forward? You might, by the time you're good, he's going to be 32, 33 years old. And he might still be very good.

Chances are he's going to be very, very good. But you probably have to pay him again at some point. And, you know, you could definitely get two ones for him. Look what they just got from Micah. He's a better player than Micah. I know you said you didn't watch this game too closely, but here's an interesting situation in this game. First off, Dylan Gabriel pissed down his leg in the end zone

and got his safety throwing the ball to nobody. Jeez. But after the safety was interesting. thing, which I didn't know you can even do. But the Browns, they line up for an onside kick off of after a safety. You know, you're already backed up more. And it's usually like a punt. You do it like a punt.

I don't know if I've ever seen that. Yeah. And they were successful. They got it? They actually got an onside kick. Oh shit. And it's just one of those things where they said the Browns, just in general, they haven't gotten an onsite kick since like 1996.

They're down 19 to three square. score game. They scored twice. We're going to score three times in four minutes. But we're going to do this twice more. Look, the hop that you always want is just amazing. That was beautiful. Yeah.

But it's just funny. It's just like, it's just like. Analytics might say to do, well, you can't do it every time. But if I was. No, you can. You can do an outside kick all the time. You just got to tell them no surprise onside kick, right? Yeah, no surprises.

No surprises. This is, uh, this is a this is a who would miles garrett look what uniform do you want to see him in like who who you know fantasy land who do you want I mean the Eagles obviously

would be a lot of fun hell yeah I want to Kelly Green running around the the oh yes dude the photoshop's this is your worst take dude the photoshop is a bad take from oh dude we got get you a Kelly Green jersey I don't want Miles Gary with that fan base

I don't deserve Miles like you guys do not deserve I don't serve Miles Garrett at all. Let's bring them to Florida. Let's, hey, all that, all that money you're getting, think about that money with no state taxes. Bro, that's like extra millions for you.

Millions. We're talking millions, bro. Down in Florida, you don't got to worry about that cold. Like, no more snow, bro. Like, think about how much you're going to. Just got to worry about alligators, people on bath salts. No, like how much you're saving on, you know how much, you know how much.

Sharks. No removal is. That's a lot of money. You don't got to worry about that in Jacksonville. I think he's worried about snow removal, man. He's making like 35 a year. But you still have to pay for it. Like, it's something that you don't have to worry about. She is Miles Garrett. I mean, this is Total Fantasyland, but Miles Garrett and the Chiefs Turtle. I just was thinking about the Chiefs. It would be so gross. People would be puking at the, peaking on the screen. You know, like in Team America, World Police, where they just start barking, that's not everybody would be doing watching Miles Garrett in Kansas City. Yes. Now, Charlie just held up the lion sign.

Lions, I mean, the Lions, that would be like the ultimate, like, let's lean into this thing. If we'd have two premier pass rushes. Oh, you're going to keep, you're going to keep the alma? Huh? You're going to keep, you're going to keep, um, Aden? Aden? Absolutely. And how, how would they, how would that?

I have no idea. I didn't hold the card up. What looks cool? Miles and a Niners looks pretty cool. Meals. I think, no. Miles. Steelers, it would be black.

Any kind of, like, classic. Not the ones from last night. And all black with the Ravens with a black visor and just looking like a, I don't even know what he would look like. He looks scary. Dude, unfortunately, like, the Cowboys make a lot of sense. A lot of sense. Yeah, unfortunately, because, like, that would suck. Maybe Jerry watched that and said that, he said, yeah, five sacks yesterday.

Let's go get him. Let's go get him. Is that how he talks? Maybe. Let's go get him. I like your southern accent. Do that again? Let's go get him.

Man, if Jerry Jones finds a way to get Miles and Garrett, I'm not going to say I'm going to be a Cowboys fan, but I might tune in a little. I'll tell you what, that would be the one thing that would absolve what he did. Yeah, for him. Absolutely would. Claiborne had six, Chris.

Claiborne had six against the Cowboys. And the Falcons won that game. That was crazy. I played in the game when a guy had five. I think Alden Smith. Alden Smith Bears. He got like a billion among Gabe Carimi. No, Gabe Carremy and this other dude.

He made this dude, this dude after the game, retired. And then on, but then on Tuesday, he tried to come into meetings and was like outside the door trying to use his thing like, oh, I will. Pulled the George Costanza. Yeah, basically it was like, yeah, like, I didn't really want to retire. I was just kidding. Like, just joking. Yeah.

And they were like, dude, like, you can't be here. Can't do that. Like, call your agent. That's a weird way to get a victory Monday. Man. Especially when you didn't win. Of those players that Bo mentioned who had five sacks in a game,

Miles is the only player to have five sacks and lose by more than three points. It's nuts. If you hear, hey, defense of end from team A, just five sacks. Like, man, Team B couldn't move the ball. Yeah, that's a Shohay Otani stat.

You know how like, with the angels, they're like, Shohayo Otani hasn't done something since Bill, Big Bill Cleaver. Bill Cleaver. Bill, Big Bill Cleaver. in the 1950s for the Asheville swamp rats and the angels

lose 8 to 3 to the L.A. Dodgers. Ashville's swamp rats. You guys got this week. Got the rats. You got the rats this week. Oh, at least you got Big Bill Cleaver. Quick shout out to

Bill Cleaver. Was in the Klan on the weekends with Thai Cobb. Quick shout out to I mean, seriously. Some of these stats for these old baseball players. I'm like, yeah, that guy was probably a piece of shit.

Shout out to Big Mo. Morgan Moses is still out there blocking for Drake May, year 12. Oh, yeah. And hanging in there because, you know how big Morgan Moses is, bro? Every time I see that guy, I'm like, golly, dude. And just to watch Miles Garrett move him around like that, I'm like, damn, I know he's older, but. Hey, but, hey, that New England, that old line, yeah, Miles have.

five sacks, but you guys came out with the win. And the good thing is you probably won't face anyone like that. Like, Miles is just one of one. And it's just one of those things where it's kind of like, not that you throw the tape away, you just got to know that like, hey, like, I'm not going to face too many guys that can just do everything. And it worked. Do you know how much Mike has changed things in Green Bay?

Oh, my God. Imagine if that were Miles instead of Micah. I'm not taking anything away from Micah, but like. on that line. Yeah. Like, yeah. So Mike has,

or Miles is just one of one. So, Buffalo Carolina. Mew-hmm. What'd y'all think? What'd y'all think? Are we still worried about Buffalo's offense? Not worried about Buffalo's offense.

Okay, just checking. Let me tell you why. What? What? Bro. Kid me? Do you watch this game fat?

He said, what? They only scored 40 points. It's the Panthers. or stuff. 40 points. It's the Browns. Nine.

I hear you. Yeah, but if the Jags fucking scored 40 points on a high school football team, you'd come in here going Duval. Yeah. Man, if you see what Trevor did to De LaSalle last night?

That was crazy. No, I see what Drake made it. Yeah, I know. Yeah, I'm not going to look too much into this game, Chris, cooking 216 yards. Kind of like, you know, the image that we just had of Jonathan Taylor with that gap.

That's a little bit how it fell with the O line, just moving people. And the thing is, too, is like the Panthers have actually had a pretty good run defense. Talked about Derek Brown and how well he played last week. So it was actually a really good showing from him. Also, Khalil Shakir had a fucking sick 54-yard touchdown. Listen, man, this wasn't much of a game, honestly. kick two field goals in the fourth quarter bills look really good um you know pretty exciting for the bills to feel like they're back on track especially because they got they got some good games coming up

here playing uh in or Kansas City's coming to play in Buffalo um this you know upcoming week and uh you're going to get back on track for that everything kind of feels right in the AFC for me right now so and dude uh but ed oliver got hurt this is a big deal they had oliver got hurt is a big deal they Ed Oliver is a big deal. And that's a defense that, like, is going to hurt this team down the stretch. I mean, it just is. And with that, Ed Oliver down, like, I don't know what you do. I don't know if you make a move or, you know, what happens.

If his biceps torn, he's done for the year, like, you might want to now, you might make two moves defensively. I don't know. But, you know, if I had to put more on the shoulders of somebody that's going to be Josh Allen, and I know that, like, things aren't perfect outside. But I would bank on them being able to just score points with what they've, got a great offensive line, a really good run game, and an MVP caliber quarterback, and I would try to fix what you have deficiency-wise defensively, which is only getting worse.

You ever been hit forcefully with a hat? I saw that. Have you? Well, that's like one of those fitted hats, so that hurts more. You know, like, if the brim, you hit one of one of these dad hats, it doesn't even make a fucking dent. That was a- I do have a question, though.

Oh, yeah, yeah, after the game. Well, he's just one guy that just, I don't think anybody would want to mess with after the game. Who? Aishon Robinson? No, he's a big guy, but, like, there was Aaron an opportunity with him in Dron Dawkins. I don't know. But if you're going to go find a guy after the game, number one, I would keep the helmet on. I respected that, that he did take it off and kind of show like, hey, like, I know.

I understand that. I ain't, I know, like, hey, I'm coming to you man to man, and I could keep my helmet on and just headbut you. But it's not a headbutt thing. It's like when you The first thing And I trust Howie Long on this thing Because back in the day Those guys were fighting all the time

Yeah The Raiders He was like bro We never took our helmets off for fights He was like the first thing you do When you go When you wind up in a situation like that Is you make sure your chin straps buckled

Did you see Aaron Donald When he came off the sideline To find Shoulder pads off Helmet on He had his shoulder pads off And he buckled his shit up And ran in there

And it was time And you know like this is grown man business. Talk is a movie. I want to go back through the film and see where this came about. Well, they were talking. But what, what, what, like, what do you think, just thinking back, what in the game can piss you off that much where you're like, I'm going to say something to the guy,

like, somebody cutting me from behind and like a high low thing or somebody talking about, like the wrong family member. And allegedly after the gate, they were talking at, you know, in, after hands, shakes and they're they're talking calmly maybe talking out something that happened on the field and then dion dachin said 40 to nine and then that set ashaun robinson off and then that uh that escalated into dion dockins what did he saying 40 to 9 the score the score he was pointing up as you can kind of yeah they're like talking and it looks like you know the beginnings of a jersey swap and then he started to 40 to 9 40 to 9 you're not 40 to 9 you're not it's

crazy because like they they really were face to face. Yeah. And that's my thing is like if you're going to go find him like, you know, what, see helmet off? Okay, what's up then? No, Dawkins say, what are you going to do? Take your helmet off if you really buy it. And he said, what?

I'll take it off. Yeah. Well, I'm much more interested in Halbax. Hey, great teammate too, by the way, Brown. He picks up buddy. Yeah, and said, it's me. It's me. It's me.

I don't care. Get off. And he's like, nah, bro. It's me. He's like, it carries him on the hill. No, but when you say it's me to somebody, like, that means that they kind of black out like you know like i've had to say that to a couple guys like like yeah it's just me exactly but but here's what i really want to know about in this game is how

maxwell harrison played i don't know if anybody knows that i can't wait to go back and look at because that's a big domino for them unfortunately though true to form for the bills you get harrison back and then you lose that oliver so one step forward i do think there is a interesting discussion to be had about the nature of the a fc e so i'm not talking about because the jets got a win, Chris. I'm talking about our buddy Dr. Fax's Super Bowl pick. Patriots are looking good, man.

I don't think the AFC East is as Bill's centric as, you know, everyone would believe. I feel like patriots are cooking. You're in a good spot there, Dr. Fax. Thank you.

Thank you there. Yeah. And I don't even want to... I got to give you your flowers. I don't even want to bring you this up. I don't want to get you guys fired up yet. But, hey, AJ Brown.

I mean, not AJ Brown. Jalen Hertz is having low-key MVP seasons statistically wise. And if they keep winning, I picked him as my MVP too. Wait, so what is the take? What are you doing? Two weeks ago, you were taunting us. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm saying, I'm talking about individual stuff. That's what we're talking about. My picks at the beginning of the year, I was the one who picked Jalen Hurst as MVP. But you're wrong on that one, because if it came down to those two players, I would definitely take I would take the guy who's working with a lot less in New England

just by by virtue of the I know somebody's poking of fucking I don't know like I'm a voodoo doll for somebody right now but I just I do think I do think and you know you mentioned the

schedule like I want to see the pads get tested a little bit more than they have been obviously the bills win was big but I want to see what happens when the schedule stiffens up a little bit and I know people will be like well the bills haven't been anybody but like we already know who the bills are

like year after year like that's the difference i think that's what people are missing is like i mean they do have some challenges coming up for us uh kansas city like i mentioned uh then they got miami which uh but then uh tampa houston pit and then the patriots uh a week after that so pretty tough stretch for them i think that'll be kind of a big indicator of where they're at where they're going to end up in the postseason so a guy named dave swanarski says he's dating my cousin but i only have one cousin i don't think you're dating my cousin bro that's the most random chat thing i've ever seen and i'm not protective of my cousin you can you know maybe he's making a long you know last you're grown woman huh maybe he's making like a last name joke you know we say

jake long i don't know i don't know i don't know i think he was making a reference to like someone saying the wrong thing about someone's family member i think he's trying to that's funny yeah let me find you it that would be the i'd be like man nope Well, that's cool. No problem. It doesn't really bother me. Real fast, we've been doing some look ahead to week nine, talking about some of these game breakdowns, but Bills and Chiefs next week. Coming off this game, if you're the Bills, and I was asking Bo a little bit about this earlier, but if you're the Bills' offense defense, you know you're going to see the Chiefs,

and also if you're the Chiefs, you know you're going to see that opponent later in the postseason again. is there any holding back of defensive or offensive plays? I think there's some of it, but I don't think it's like, hey, if we really need a great play here, we're not going to use our great play with the game on the line line. Would it be more like setting up? You give one look to show a couple things. Certainly. You're always setting up for future opponents, but especially if you're going to play Kansas City again in your Buffalo, you might have two looks off a jet motion.

You know, like in one look that you're going to go to later, if it's successful, one way, there's a second iteration of the play that you know you're setting up. And you could set it up later in the game. You might not be able to get to it. I mean, I never called plays in the NFL. None of us did, but I would say like there's definitely a little bit of like, hey,

what are we going to do the second time around? And there's more of it in a game where you're playing the Giants twice in a month. Yeah, okay. Yeah, that's exactly what I said. Yeah. And then also Spags. Think about Spags, how creative he is with his Blitz.

If you're, you know, spags and you know there's a good chance that you're going to see the bills again. you're giving them one look pre-snap and doing one maybe you're playing coverage giving that exact same look and the second time you play them and do some sort of exotic blitz i mean we see that every week regardless in coordinator rooms or coaching rooms is there you know when you go through film do you do those coaches look like okay this is the look they gave and this is what they did what are the variations that they could make off this play if we see them again for sure do they for sure absolutely yeah there's always a wrinkle and we're preparing

for a game, we're looking at things not only did against us last year. Like, they'll look back at a look we got like last year and say like, hey, this is coming off of this. You know, so, you know, the fact they're going to play each other in the playoffs, that matters. But like, I think it's just any, any team is if you're going to see somebody, whether it's like a division opponent or you're going to see them in the playoffs again, you might hold a look later. But I just, I reject, I flatly reject the, the notion that like coaches are just like,

hey, we're going to throw a whole game plan out. And it's our best game plan to say. save it for the playoffs. Like, you know, in the NFL, that's fan, that's fan thinking a little bit where it's like, oh, well, let's just do that. Like every, every team's trying to win this week. And so like, exactly. Um, okay.

So the next one is Tampa and New Orleans. There's only two things in this game I want to talk about. One is Anthony Nelson having like the game of his life. That was fucking awesome. That was fucking cool. And you know him. How casually he trucked him. Oh, yeah.

dude he's the chillest guy ever but like he's a big dude but every D-Lyman in the NFL is huge there's something about that pick that he got where after he took that thing down and he just casually was like get the fuck off me to Rattle where he looked like he was seven football it was awesome dude it looked like

NFL Blitz yep yeah you remember NFL Blitz ice cream that's ice cream a pick six yeah that's a look at it just like boom it looked like an uncle in like a cousin you know a family union playing football for sure You know what's funny about this play is, bro, as every Dean Lyman, you know you do this stupid

as drill in practice with the coach throwing that pass that realistically, he hits it in your hand perfectly so you can catch the ball like that. And every time you do it, you're like, this will never happen. Like, you're literally saying to near your head in practice. Like, this will never happen this perfectly in a game. And now all those coaches that heard the guys say that, they have perfect teach to It's like, see, mirror the ball. If you just do it the right way, this can happen to you.

Well, dude, I just, wouldn't he, didn't he force a fumble early in the game? So he was all over the field and, you know, I had one eye on this game, but like to me, it just seemed like when you get that defensive touchdown and then you get another one, it gets called back, but just defense two weeks in a row building on, like, being disruptive as fuck. They were really disruptive in that Detroit game, just the offense they give them much. But in this game, they got the ball off. the Saints and I don't know Bo what you want to talk about first the call or the game plan but

no I mean I just kind of to your point like there was this is a little bit of a strange game you know division opponent obviously I don't think there's a lot of there's not a lot of love loss between these teams we saw a defensive touchdown there with Nellie which is super cool there were like two other defensive touchdowns that were like in my opinion touchdowns that got called back and the one from Winfield was a fumble you know, Jamel Dean punched the ball out. Winfield picked it up. Everybody on the field is screaming for the end zone.

Everyone is playing. There is no one who's walking around like no clear stoppage of play whatsoever. And then after a ton of deliberation, the refs said that there was a whistle, that the play was blown dead. And so they ended up giving the buck's offense the ball at, you know, wherever the fumble was recovered. I think it was like the 40 or something like that. but it was almost the opposite of the situation for the inadvertent whistle during the Eagles game. And it was pretty, I thought it was pretty poorly handled, man. Like they showed it again on the broadcast, and it was so clear to me that everybody on the field was playing.

Like, nobody, there was no confusion. So I just don't understand. It seems like the perfect opportunity for a booth review to get that thing right. And that's where, you know, there's a lot of frustration. And then there is even another one, another fumble that, I think it was Winfield again, picked it up and housed it. And they said that he was down by contact. It might have been a pick, actually. Anyway, pretty interesting game.

There was a series of, I think, two goal line stands also for the Saints, where they, like, stopped the Bucks consecutively, like, eight plays in a row on the goal line, which was kind of interesting. This game had a very weird flow to it. Bottom line is, though, obviously the Bucks defense played well. Only gave up three points to the Saints. I had that touchdown from A. Nellie, who was, was fucking. awesome they brought it uh they sat down ratler um i just think it was one of those things where

need to make a change at quarterback try to do something different what's his name show how do you know chuck chuck chuck chuck's yeah um didn't bring a ton to the table yeah didn't didn't really do much for me man i'm not a huge spencer rattler guy i think they're kind of a horse apiece uh he looked a little green um and then just talking about the bucks offensively quick, you know, pretty decent game from them. Like they had a lot of advantages, you know, from field position defensively, things like that. To me, this kind of struck me as a game where the Bucks are obviously injured.

They've lost a ton of their guys offensively. And it hadn't really showed until now. Saw some good stuff from Kate Otten. He's been there for a while. He hasn't been used a ton this year because he's had a chip and shit like that to help out with their O-line injuries. would have liked to have seen a little bit more from ibuka tez johnson MVP he's kind of coming on a little bit but again not a super impressive performance for the bucks offensively you feel like

they're starting to miss some of their weapons guys that are injured um but got a great win and fuck dude i should have bet some tez johnson props remember we were talking about that game i was saying in the second half of that Detroit game he was getting open MVP he's gonna be big for he's gonna be he's got to be big for him. But my question to you, Bo, is, was Baker making the throws because he looked hurt against Detroit to me? Like, I know there's like, yeah, it was that bad against Detroit. There were a couple, he wasn't making the same like, you know, MVP caliber, gritty, scramble to throw completions that the guys were making a couple weeks before. I thought Baker was pretty good. He wasn't electric, you know? There were also some, like, Tess had a couple drops.

the drops. Like Buka, I think, had a drop or two. Like, there was just some meat left on the bone offensively for the bucks. I don't think it was necessarily Baker's fault. It just seemed like one of those games kind of where the defense was really shining. And they were like, okay, like, let's just handle the ball. They were really committed to running the ball.

They ran it 29 times. Didn't make a ton of hay, only 88 yards. But like, they had great field positioning a lot. Well, they're not farmers. Capitalized with like, didn't capitalize with great plays. I think they just needed to get their guys healthy, honestly. That's really what it comes down to for me for the bucks. Well, who do the bucks have next, by the way?

Because they got a Halloween buy, baby. Of course. Yeah. Could not come at a better time. No, could not come in a better time to be a buck. Can you imagine, is there a better place to party on Halloween probably than Tampa Bay? Do they, yo, do you all have Halloween parties in that, in that pirate ship? That seems like the best place to have a Halloween party.

Ebor Street probably going to be lit, right, Bo? D-Bor will be lit. I mean, that's a young man's game, facts, to be honest with you. Maybe like five, 10 years ago. Yeah, wouldn't it be cool to still be young? I thought that was your deal. I thought that was your deal.

I mean, you brought Chris to an 18-year-old bar. He did. That was crazy. Yeah, that's when I was a young man, Dr. Fives. Yeah, he was like 25 at the time. He was trying to get his sister into the bar who was underage and didn't tell me. He was like, I get this great bar we're going to do tonight. and I show up in like

and Chris Hanson's man everybody was born in the 2000s dude yeah pretty much yeah like I walk into the bar and buddy's sitting there have a seat Chris it's fucking bow dude anyways

I didn't do it all right so we finish with Miami and Atlanta and I gotta be honest didn't get around to this one you didn't see pink eye two was lighted up dude he was like i can't see over the line and then he's like i lost one of my eyes this week and he diced these guys dude around with the he messed around in the wrong strip club down there get pink out oh wow

get pink eye wow obviously suspicious though too has a good game that's crazy didn't see it mysterious that's crazy that you did it was suspicious you know what's funny the memes that's a good joke also to me now with all this gambling stuff going around. They're like, isn't it odd as soon as the gambling stuff goes down? Tewa has an amazing game. What are they inferring? That he's been point shaving.

He's been point shaving and now the jig is up. The jig is up. I got to start playing good. Man, what is it though? What happened? Who watched the game? I watched the game. Tell me what happened.

It was plenty. It was short passes. He, 20 of his 27 passes were under 10 air yards. He completed 17. That's why fucking, I thought for sure he was over the, because Makin gave out a under 206 passing yards. I was like, there's no way he's got to be over it, right? He ends up at 205 on like how many completions? On a million?

Yeah, a ton. But, I mean, that's all it was. It was just. Run after catch. Yeah, I mean, and they did scheme up some good stuff. Like the touchdown to Devon A-chan, they made it look like they were going, they were throwing a screen pass to the left. And A-chan leaked out to the right. at the last minute to it just turned and fired.

But yeah, that like quick, quick ball movement. He threw, yeah, he threw 26 passes. So 2026, 20, 25, four touchdowns. Kind of felt to me like when a little league team that's not going to the playoffs is like, let's go out there, you know, and then they just like on three, have fun. Yeah, have fun on three. And they had fun, it looked like. It looked like, and you know what the biggest thing is without having seen them play,

like I was pretty surprised. and I know the game script probably dictated this, but like they did a good job, it seemed like, with Bejohn Robinson. Really good job. And, you know, Anthony Weaver, whose name's gotten floated a little bit as like a head coaching candidate and it's hard to square with the defensive performance this year at times. But like he always impresses me at the podium and he just seems like a guy you'd want to play for.

As evidenced by this game, guys weren't quitting on him. So hats off to Mike, to Anthony and to to a man because, you know, people thought, and I still think it's over um but one more week of of you know keeping the reaper off your back honestly imagine imagine imagine the night before the game just being toa and just praying like to god is like just just give me the strength and like do whatever it's like to go out there and win a game and you wake up in the morning and your eyes pink yeah you wake up with pink eye but the whole strongest soldier thing exactly and your eye almost shut and you just like you talk to god and guys like just get out there just trust me on this you go out there and you ball out there and you

ball out bro and then see less do less see a sometimes seeing less see a lot see a little right that's our d-line coach you say a little see a lot see a little and that's also how it feels when you watch every fucking game, Bo. That's why I left Miami and Atlanta off the docket today. And I love that when he threw that touchdown fast, it goes like this. Yeah. And I'm just like, good for you to him. Dude, he should, like we were talking about it yesterday.

I was like, yo, just give him an eye patch. Give me Pirate to her for the rest of the year. Swash Buckler, too. Or maybe, or look, maybe Mike, hey, maybe we need to. Too should put him with a box, dude. Hey, we were talking shit to Mike McDaniels. Maybe he needs to go into the media and match to him. was energy and just throw two under the bus every week.

Be like, hey, hopefully he won't throw 10 picks this week. Yeah. Just do that every week. Maybe maybe maybe maybe that's worth. You should have seen it today. It's like Wednesday. He's like you should have seen it today. You fucking called a go ball and went like 35 yards.

There's no wind. He's fucking terrible. And then they go win again. He throws four touchdown passes of 65. That should be, yeah. I would say I would speak slower if it wouldn't derail the show because that's how slowly Mike speaks at the fucking podium. Mike,

Mike was probably like, hey, like, you see, you see Tua's eye? Should we still play him? Just put him out there? Yeah, just put him out there.

I thought for sure it was Quinn Ewer's time, so like, good for Tua. Good for Tua. Okay, so now we've got ring, ring, we got the phone line.

Okay. This is their phone line. Oh, I can't wait to hear this. Jacksonville didn't play. Better not hear no shit. We've got a pair of calls this week. week. Guys, I don't know if you saw this, but there was a real fishy line this week that jumped

off the screen when I opened the BEDMGM app yesterday morning. The Fitchie line of the week is brought to you by BEDMGM. If you haven't signed up for BEDMGM yet, use bonus code greenlight, and you will get up to a $1,500 first bet offer on your first rate wager with BEDMGM. Bed MGM, make it legendary. Tampa Bay only laying three and a half points at New Orleans. Erroneous on all counts. The bucks are a really good team coming off a dud last week,

which was more reason to pound them this week and use the very poor teams to get right. These moves by Vegas where they get the line wrong, they happen maybe twice the season, and I don't always make money on it. But that one was wrong. They should have been laying at least seven, seven. Yeah. I would agree. Did he hang up? I agree. Listen, the Bucks, that was the one thing I didn't think people were thinking about was just how poorly it put last week and how teams rebound in the NFL. And I think it's also based off of like the history of, you know, I think people, most people remember in the back of their minds like knock down dragouts in New Orleans, you know, when they play teams in division. But this is just New Orleans is, uh, This cratered. This was a really good call.

Thanks for the extra ad read. Yeah. There's no call. Where was that guy's accent? What was the accent? Philly, for sure. Yeah. One more...

Chris. Making. Calbs. You're going to have to do the most annoying thing tomorrow on the live show and let's talk about the reps all day. I'm sure you watch that Green Bay Packer game and my dad's pretty hot right now.

Dealer fan over here. Tariko and Collinsworth is a drunk, man. Something's over. something's got to be investigated we got to get to be FBI NBA players been over into the NFL and the officiating and the

commentating what a shit show all across the league but especially on prime time man no he just proved my point though I'm sure I got lots more to say this is Dom from California Dom what's up

Dom what up dude sorry about your dad but he had a pretty good run with the Steelers like for most of his life they're just so they're just not very good right now and so i don't think the calls on sunday night i mean it would have been nice to get that off sides but you made my point which is that like most of the games you didn't see featured way more egregious calls than the primetime game also would agree that at times terrico can seem well last night there was a really funny thing that i made us rewind for and uh it was

like a michael jordan reference and then tarrico was like yeah and now it's load management and Chris was like, Mike, I'm a little worried about your load, man. Whoa. That was a wild thing to say, Chris. Well, and then the awkward P word that they were. Yeah, he was like, this is a lot like, what was it? Nixon against, uh, Nixon versus Wilson. Nixon versus Wilson.

Yeah, yeah. You know, he had a really, um, he was like, this is like a political presidential. It's like a presidential debate and Chris was like, he's like, ah, I don't touch that. Oh my God. Like any word with the key,

how many times the game could Chris Collinsworth's voice trail off and become a motorcycle? Chainsaw, like, he's just fucking, he's funny, dude.

Yeah, he was like, anywhere that starts with P, I stay away from that. Yeah, what are you guys talking about? What other P were you? Awesome. I don't know what else are you thinking about. But anyways.

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Backup QB games or trap games. They are trap games. Okay, so, and when, out of curiosity, when was Pennix down last week? I feel like it was late, right? I think the injury happened during the game. It happened during the Niners game. Yeah. Because at the end of the game, he was a little bit hobbled.

but I just might have just plain missed that. I thought he was limited during the week, but... Yeah, I guess I assume that he would fucking play, obviously. Which is why, uh, oh, one day ago. Yeah, Falcons. A day ago. I got panicked. P-word.

Okay. Now it's time for the mentions. Best flight, dude. It's there literally. It's one of the rare times. you can use this but it's the jets you're named after a thing that flies you you're in the thing that flies after a big win like a jet's flight the first win of the season that's got to be just as good as one of these good teams winning a big game i'm telling you the feeling of relief is almost

better than the feeling of accomplishment in in life and in the NFL and so like uh you know good on those guys i hope they had some crown i hope they were drinking playing boo-ray on the fucking flight i hope they were doing all that shit. Honestly. I don't care. I'm drinking on the flight. No, I got the same thing. I got the Jets.

But the best thing, I would like, if they're one of those teams where the owners like on the front of the flight, you know how some teams that are like, you know,

the front office and people are in there. And just him having to sit there and kind of congratulate Justin Fields after talking shit and seeing him walk on the plane with everyone happy.

Yeah, just don't do that. Woody, just stay the fuck away from him. Like honestly, And I can totally imagine him coming back to him and being like, hey, man, you know, it's just a business. And being like, hey, it worked. It worked. Huh? Fuck out of here. Exactly.

Fuck out of here. Did you guys see this? My best flight was the bucks on the way to New Orleans. They all were these shirts. Baker's face on them. You got these little cowboy? I did see those. God forbid a white boy, get a little motion. Get a little motion. And that's a short flight, you know. And then you get a win, Chris. and you know this. What do you get on the way out of New Orleans,

maybe? You get some fried oysters. What? Or boiled oysters. Wait, wait, what did you say? Those donuts, right? What are they called? On the way I know?

You get those oysters. You get the oysters, bro. You get the drogo's oysters. What is that? They're fucking great. They're like charlbored oysters. And you're so tired. Aren't they an aphrodisiac and get oysters

getting on a plane with a bunch of dudes? Well, is that going to make you horny? I mean, yeah, what? Like, that's what oysters do. Wow. Why are you bad at it? me. If I eat a bunch of oysters in like a, if I eat a bunch of oysters in like a, in like an arcade, do I start humping the fucking machines? Arcade. Arcade oysters is crazy. No, what I'm saying.

Like, your logic's kind of wild. Like there has to be something to stimulate you to for the oysters to kick in. That's all I'm saying. I wouldn't have to worry about it. I'm getting on a plane with a bunch of my friends. Have a oysters. We just, you know. Make sure you guys get the oysters. That was wild. I think you just talked himself into a corner there. You're really going to get all horny before you get on the plane with your friends? God forbid a white boy, get a little oysters before a flight. God forbid you eat some oysters at all. God forbid you get a little horny with your boys on a flight, right, Fax?

If you ever out with the old lady and just order like 36 oysters and just look at her. Fax, oysters don't make you gay. I didn't say that. That's essentially like it changes your sexuality. Like you know what I mean? I didn't say that, guys. I didn't say that, guys. My best flight.

How about the Pats, huh? Well, Dynamite Segway. Best flight. Any deep ball from by Drake May this season. Guy leads the league 147.5 passer rating on targets of 20 plus yards. He is throwing pearls in a deep passing game right now. Just laughing at these comments.

Somebody said, Faxthakes, oysters are like natural Viagra. They are. Oysters got me dropping draws. Why are you guys making a seem like you guys don't know about oysters? I do know about oysters. I do know about oysters.

All right. Oh, no. I'm like, like, hey, guys. It's like, I can't make a little joky joke. You guys got to step on every joke. No, but I mean, like, that's kind of your game.

We're just giving it back to you. Oyster loving motherfuckers. Oh, I love oysters, bro. Me too. Oh, it's a problem. I'm going to get some, I'm going to get some. Somebody's dropping Alex Jones quotes in here. The frogs.

But the thought of arcade oysters is crazy, though. I don't know where you came up with that. Somebody said one oyster give me three-quarter chub. The reason I brought it up is because I was trying to think of like a situation where if I were horny, there's really no outlet. Which is like pretty much any situation unless my wife's there or the, you know, the computers nearby. Oh, all right.

You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Anyway. Worst flight, bro. Worst flight. I don't really, honestly, I was looking through the flights and Dallas. I got a worst bus ride, Chris. Jackson Dart made the worst flight because he doesn't have his best buddy.

His buddy's still in. Oh, is it the bus ride? Oh, it's a bus ride. He's sitting in the bus ride alone. I'm with you, Bo. He's going to be like, who am I going to head butt now? Yeah, yeah. Who did I get the butt heads with now?

What happens in, like, remember the Titans when one of the characters dies too soon? You know, like it was a whole situation. It's like when they lost Burtier. Yeah. Cannot replace a Gary Burtier. You can't replace a Camp Scataboo. No, you can't. Mowers.

What if Scataboo was like Bertier in the beginning? You know what I'm saying? They didn't even make a remake, a newer remake. They do. Where they don't forgive Gary Burtier for how he acted in the beginning. But like you got to have like recent or like somewhat recent players like football player. Yeah, yeah. Instead we're getting like some weird fucking movie about by Jordan Peel about.

I didn't see that movie. Oh, bro. Scary movie, like scary football movie. Oh, did you see it? though? I saw like a little bit of it and then was just like

oh yeah Worst seat it looks wild watching that movie yeah yeah Bevel comedy like I'm

I finished movies I couldn't somebody said gotta get that phone off orientation lock after a plate of oyster laughter laughter

laughter yeah people are yeah people are going nuts for tears mom served Julia

oysters when he went over to their crib. Yo. Oh my God. Oh, my Jesus. Oh, man. Anti-bevel Carmel. Are we all saying the same thing? Yep.

This is the easiest anti-bevel. I have written here Sunday night, I guess. Yeah. I'm not being good. Because, you know, I still think those jerseys have potential. On Sunday night. Come on. Yeah, you've got to change something.

What if they have black pants with it? That would, that would look significantly. Is the jersey really the gripe? Yeah. Yeah, the cat is really bad. I mean, khaki pants. What are the... Cachy pants down the front of the jersey?

What did you say? I think the jersey's tight. You literally said when they walked out, you're like, oh, we're not wearing pants tonight, huh? Yeah, I did. You literally... Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it was...

Yellow helmets are awful. The yellow helmets are bad. I'm with you. I wrote this down as well. They look like... But the Texan City jerseys are fucking terrible, too. They look like an off-brand bottle of mustard, bro. Like, Dijon mustard.

Can we talk about it? The Ravens look like shit too. The Ravens need to change their uniform. Really? You didn't like those. Yeah. You liked the ones yesterday? I actually kind of like those too.

I don't love them. Were they black pants? No, no, it was black helmet, black jersey, white pants. Oh, it's their worst combo. Yeah, I mean, that's their worst combo, but their jerseys are still phenomenal. I actually think, I think it depends on the combination.

I wanted to ask you guys what color spat you would go with with that look. Would you go black spat? or white spat. White. Okay, so I'm black, I'm black jerseys, white pants, white spat.

White spat. Yeah. Can't spat. You sign with Nike. Can't do it. Yeah. I can't do it. Okay.

So I guess Sunday night takes, you do a bevel, Conway? The Bevel is the Broncos Cowboys game. When Pat Bryant did a mile high salute, like the proper way. Yeah. I thought it was 1993 or something,

dude. It was incredible. Boy, did he shoot up the Broncos, you know. Oh, they got to play now, dude. Oh, he's so cool. He's so cool. Pat Bryant's cool as fuck, dude.

I remember being, I don't even remember how old I was, but watching Mike Henderson drop the salute like in early 2000s. I was like, oh boy, that's, I like these guys. He went to, yeah, he's, he's, he's, uh, Illinois. Yep. Yeah. Went to Atlantic Coast high school. A guy can play football, dude.

Get him on the field. He does the mile high salute correctly. He's a ball player. Salute. Um, that was my bevel. Is there anybody else got a bevel for the most beautiful scene in football? I mean, the Kelly greens are always nice. I mean, I'm ready for fax and shit all over them.

They're cool. Yeah, okay. Is it just like, you just don't like the shade of green? Yeah, like, I'm not, it's just like, it's not that I don't like it. I guess I just, maybe because I'm not a diehard Eagles fan, I just don't see the hype behind it. But I'm the same way with the bucks, like the cream sickles. You just like mid uniforms. Who's got the best uniform in the league?

Huh? Who's got the best? Huh? Do the... You'll tell me. You'll tell them. That's interesting. Real fast.

I know I gave out an anti-bevel earlier, but I've got another anti-bevel from the same game. Broncos, Cowboys. This is an anti-bevel. Holy shit. Because now this is a fumble. I know. You know, we're, you know, wrestling for the ball. Whoa, man.

What the fuck, Reed? Hey, dude, you know, it's just a shot. We just want to know where their hands are. Too many oysters. They must have a Rocky Mountain oysters. That's crazy, dude. That is crazy. Jeez, Reed.

Best seat. Not that guy. No, that's the worst seat. That's true. My best seat is going to all the practice squad guys and free agents out there. There is an absorbent amount of injury. this year and I just feel like if you're a practice squad guy or you're a free agent, just stay ready so you don't have to get ready.

You don't know how many opportunities you might get, but with the amount of guys getting hurt right now, hey, you might get one shot in practice that catapults you into a game into some more money or whatever it may be. Just be ready out there. Just be ready out there. Seriously. Yeah.

Best seat. Yeah. My best seat is the one at a bar at like a Chili's in Cincinnati occupied by Joe Flacco. Have a little dinner. Have a couple beers. He's watching his own highlights on ESPN. Yeah, they lost yesterday. He scored damn near 40 points.

In his own words, he's in heaven. There's no shame in it. Grab yourself a pitcher. Honestly, dude, he said the truest thing ever. And that's nothing against our families as dudes. A lot of us are reclusive. creatures, myself included. I like to be alone.

A little bit of solitude. And the older you get, the less chance you get to be alone. When I was younger, my wife used to feel bad for me when I go like, I used to lie and be like I'm going and I go to the movies alone or something. You know what I'm saying? You did a, what's the movie 40 year version? I like Spider-Man too. That whole thing. I want to go to Spider-Man.

Yeah. Yeah. He's just doing a fantasy. It's just fantasy baseball. But I want to be alone, man. So I totally get what Joe Flaggos saying, man, there's just something about. just uh recharge the batteries yeah the absence of other people do you i think it's the heart grow fonder no doubt if there's people around me all the time i don't like people right and did you see

jemar chase's response to they asked them about it they're like hey you know would you go to in spite and he was like hell no i'm not doing that and then joe like he'll learn he'll learn yeah he will learn yeah he will learn 10 years uh okay so my best seat is going to be uh colonel sanders i was watching the world series don't get used to it um and uh colonel sanders was sitting behind home plate and it fucking works man i just wanted some kFC and i can't tell you when the last time i had kFC but like it was 10 o'clock i damn near door dashed kfc but you know what i did last night i got some fried chicken delivered to my house because of what colonel sanders did the night before it was delayed on-set colonel sanders those uber it's real estate in your head yeah he's hanging around

They're like, we're not here to sell food. And I'll be, fuck. It was so good. I might get some more fried chicken tonight, dude. That was fucking incredible. And it all started with Colonel Sanders. Bo, what was your best seat? I mean, not going to lie, Noel,

kind of took my thunder a little bit on that one, flack of. I'll pivot. Best seat. What do we got today? October 27th, best seat is me, Cowboy, Ralph, and Charlie, because it's the last fucking week of squat over, baby. I am fucking ready for November, Cowboy.

I'm not you, buddy. Dude, I'm digging the waking up, you know, getting the legs moving a little bit. It's good, good vibe, you know. Good, but whoo. These joints are barking, brother. Yeah, woof, who. Cowboys doing squat year.

Hey, man, can I keep it rolling? Don't keep it rolling. Ain't stop it. next year because we're in the 11th season right now. They've put out 11 programs or one month long. Next year they're going to have 12. You can do one every month. Think about it.

Wow. I got an idea for a squat tober. This is a good one where everybody squats every day and shuts the fuck up. Chris, we get it. You're just not like us, all right? No,

I played 11 seasons. You're talking about 11 seasons. I have 11 seasons of duty. exercise you're like meeting strangers you're being like did you squat this morning I got squatted this morning

you know it makes me feel really like oh yeah I'm fucking cool it's like talking about your fantasy football team dude I don't know how to squat I don't know how to squat oh I use the pitch shark

I love it but tree falls in the woods you know Once Squatober is over, I am going to use the pad, just so you know. I'm using the pad. Okay. I'd be yelled a cowboy. Yeah, I got yelled at.

All right. Sorry, cowboy. That's okay. You had it coming. What's your guys is mile time while we're here? What it was or what? What is it? No kidding.

You guys should post it on Instagram with like a little map of your runs. Strava. What is that? Strava. Strava. is that Strava? Strava. I have so many people on my Wichikoi does it.

I don't know. I still love you guys. I feel like I follow someone who runs. I follow someone who runs and uses that app. And all they do is they run in the shape of a dick. That's, dude, that is the point. That's the best. So they can post it.

I'm like, yo, so you're running every day. How do I get Strava? Just down, you can download. Oh, I'm going to get. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're running every day. It's just to be satisfied. You can make so many

Shaves, dude You know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna start doing like my favorite wider Steering the oyster route Rout. Rout. Rout.

Yeah, on Strava. Like exactly. I don't know. You have to get the, get the, I am crippled. That's why I hate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That's why I'm hating, guys. Worst seat. Worst seat. It got to be Brian Dable, right? He got to be one of the worst seats. It's just, you're already still in the hot seat and then to kind of see

your up-and-coming running back take a terrible injury after your star wide receiver takes a terrible injury at the beginning of the season I just feel like not really a good seat to be in as Brian Day will remain

Yeah, not at all. Anybody else? He looked like, I felt for him, but he looked like a five-year-old who had gotten, you know, the cookie take away or that he couldn't watch, you know, his favorite TV program. Nickelodeon.

Oh, he was hot. Like, g-g-g-g-no dude-perfect. No, dude-perfect today. It's like, yeah. Dude, I went to the dude-perfect movie. Did I tell you this? It's literally just the TV show, but they charge you $30 and put it on a big screen. Yeah.

It was, like, I wouldn't think it would be different. They were just like making a racket, dude. Yeah, we're just in a stadium doing shots. Crazy. Anyways. I got a worst seat. I got a worst seat. I got a worst seat.

Last night, Sunday night football. Holy fuck. Packers center Elton Jenkins They thought they were in hurry up So he gets on the ball earlier Then the Packers ended up subbing That was fun

Motherfuckers down there This hand on the ball for like 45 seconds You know he's down there the whole time Just like fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck Follarius pretty heads up play by him Honestly to not You know to not fuck that up But I was just laughing

Pretty good stuff Doing Roman chairs out there I've got a worst seat right now Beau with that glare coming Yeah, that's terrible I know, I'm sorry. I saw that point. I feel like I'm in a fucking Michael Bay movie right now.

You're not lying? What the hell are you? All of a sudden, some Lincoln Park's going to start playing. I'll go worse seat. Me, Friday night. Y'all know where I had to go Friday night? Enter the sandman. So we don't enter the Samman.

They don't know what they're doing. You entered the Sandman Friday, no. I did not enter the Sandman. Yes, you did. You're the one eating oysters trying to enter the Sandman. No, it's cute. So Friday, my buddy, happy birthday, Kenny, and I'm a good friend. You can say a lot of things about me, but I think I'm a pretty good friend.

I went to his 40th, which was at a Virginia Tech football game, which meant me going to a Virginia Tech game and sitting in the stands. And when I say sit, I mean, I remained seated during N or Sam, ma'am. I just looked at the people's asses in front of me. people are going nuts man like um my report on virginia tech is haven't been behind enemy lines is it as a program i always had a lot of respect for i hate maryland like when they used to say like who do you hate tech right i fucking hate tech but i always respected tech okay i don't care what anybody thinks about that we we were oh for four there was like a 15 year period where we didn't beat them um so what are you going to do you're going to say they suck no they're better than us uh

not anymore though this year we're going to kick their fucking ass but but I went behind enemy lines and went to lane stadium. I just was like blown away by how like orderly everything is there. It kind of struck me as almost like a military school. I mean, there's a lot of military dudes walking around like cadets and that sort of thing. But it's like super like orderly. Like the cues are orderly. Like, you know, people aren't as drunk as they are at Virginia games for sure.

Like I was expecting to see a lot more like lawlessness. It's very like even around the stadium is very orderly like getting dropped off in an Uber. There's not a bunch of people which means they're inside. the game the crowd wasn't great mercifully we left at half time wait what do you mean like not great but just not like what you see on like when virginia tech was really good like they're not good right now so it wasn't packed but everybody everybody's downtown at the bars that's is that what it is you think yeah go to tots down really it's wild well i didn't go to any bars because i did a really good job of staying incognito yeah not a one hey what the fuck are you doing here nice i'm expecting a lot of

like what the fuck are you doing here i just was in my whole hood and like had my whole shit and i was sitting down and the whole thing anyways i'm walking through the concourse in the second quarter and y'all know this i've talked about this guy before but i've got my head down and bud foster walks right by me and you know how much i like bud and bud foster's a legendary defensive coordinator for tech who had a hand and beaten us so many times but i always respected bud i go but and he looks up and he's like chris what's up man and we talked about for probably like 15 minutes dude it was like one of those all right see you later but then we kept talking and talking and talking it was just a crazy moment for me being in that stadium as like a fan

which i'm not and running into fucking bud foster he's the only tech person i talked to the whole game just an awesome dude shout out to bud uh but now i can say i've been to a tech game and it's really not that scary like you always imagine that there's some like just drunk like hillbillies and engineers and like all these fucking angry like football they're waiting for you like but there's just they're just normal people dude they're just come into the sand man they just happened to have a really cool entrance music and they happen to have really good football teams for a long time not so much anymore what i will say is they played uh god's gonna cut you down the johnny cash song and i thought and this isn't a hot take i thought that was better than enter the sandman enter enter the sandman so um yeah i

I don't want to say shout out to tech, but I had a decent time. And I never thought I knew. The Chekos. Chris Love, Shocker. Yeah, that's good. Did you hear that a lot? Honestly, like, I'm telling you, it's weird. I wouldn't say try it for yourself.

But we had a sick Airbnb on the new river. And essentially, like, I got there and we sat by the river and I took some boomers. No. I took some boomers at like three in the afternoon. I was like, do we have? to go to the game like it is really a beautiful area blacksburg is is really pretty um but inside the stadium Nate you'd be shocked it's not what you imagine it's just very like orderly and the whole place looks like like everything's hokey stone and the architecture is so damn like cold you know

i mean it looks like a military school yeah it's wild anyways that's my report on uh you telling me that makes me want to go down there and make content and making and making don't go down there and make content Don't go down there. It's just no, it's just a football stadium in the middle of a bunch of farmland, and the people come in there all about ball. You know, but $20 million, what it's done for our roster, I think we can beat them this year. I really do.

I think the line's going to be like, what, what do you think? Seven and a half or something. Yeah, I mean, it depends on if UVA keeps escaping with these, you know, last minute victories that would shrink. That would shrink the line. But, yeah, I bet seven, six. Yeah. right in there.

All right. Fly on the wall. Anything from anybody? Flying the wall. Mine is going to all the other owners, probably whispering and looking at Ms. Ursay and the Colts. On the sideline, taking notes while their team is doing phenomenal right now, after everyone talking shit and saying she's micromanaging and she's doing all this negative stuff.

And she's just minding her business. trying to learn more about her her investment and her franchise and i just would wonder what the other guys are probably saying about her well this was also mine i'd be curious but at one point it looked like alec pierce was chewing her ear off wide receiver what's wide receiver three saying the owner on the sideline yeah yeah yeah give me the rock you see what we just did there yeah you see the you see my ability at the catch point uh-huh you know he's making making his pitch Making his pitch. She's single?

I knew that was coming from you at some point this year. It's been angling. I watch a lot of ball on, fuck, right? Take her out for some oysters, side. Hell yeah. Yeah, you must be noisters, man. Oh, right. So fly on the wall, I'll say, you know, we talked about it earlier.

But, like, if Justin Fields walks by the owner in the hallway, like, how does that go? I hope the owner doesn't come to him and pull that like, hey, see, it worked. Like, don't do that, bro. So fly on the wall. Justin Fields and Woody Johnson. What a name, too. I fly on the wall.

Woody Johnson? Hell of a name. Woody. Crazy, dude. Woody. Mine's out, Dionne Dawkins and Aichon rides. I want to know what that convo was like. Dawkins and Aishon?

Yeah. Yeah. Because it seemed cordial for a little bit. But I just know Dawkin was like, oh, take your helmet off then, tough guy. It's just the way he ripped his helmet off. It was just like, all right, what's up? I'm not taking that helmet off, bro. No, definitely not.

All right. STL Memorial? STL Memorial. Oh. Oh. Oh, I mean, this is easy, right? What is it? It's going to miles.

Five buckets, got to give it to him. Yeah. And just the way he did it. I mean, there's probably other guys. But just five bucks it, five sacks in the game is just, it's just crazy. That's a lot of people's seasons, you know? Yeah. Like a lot of guys will have four and a half, five.

And not saying that's a bad season for some guys, but it's just to get that in one game, getting three sacks. And like three sacks, three different ways in the first, like the first half. It's just, it's just crazy. It also creates a situation where you're playing with such, so much house money as a rusher. Like, I have one of the half three. feel when you get one early in the game is like yeah yeah yeah it's just crazy um bow do you have an stale i was gonna give it to miles too i mean fucking five sacks but let me pivot quick dr fax got there

first uh let me give it to winfield man he had like three he could have had very easily two defensive touchdowns uh but he's just been the cap to that defense uh playing really well i want to make sure you get some flowers played good man had a fumble recovery um like six tackles, but just good leader on that defense. And I'm ready to see him fucking put one of those away. Score. STL Memorial, Les Need going out and getting McCrary. I mean, everybody's paying attention to that dog shit slate yesterday.

And Les, who's always got his finger on the pulse, is going to improve in secondary, working the phones, rushing coverage. They get that group up front. You know, and they look as dangerous as anybody in the NFC. I've got an STL for Tony Sprano Jr., offensive line coach for the Colts. obviously j t's been exceptional this season but the success of the run game is doing part to the performance of the o-line he's getting those guys coached up doing a great job um and they've also been really good in blitz pick up bro for it's worth Tony sperano shout out to his old man god rest of soul who was like he was the one guy that during the combine like just saw through

all the bullshit like i remember wands i had some water and like i was drinking water and he's like how much water have you had today? How much do you really weigh? And I was like, oh, fuck, he really, like, his dad was just like such a legend, bro. I was really glad to have been around him a little bit. Really cool to see Tony Jr. in the league doing his thing. So that's awesome. Hollow man.

Hollow man. Spencer Rattler got fucking ragged on Little Boyd by Anthony Nelson. Hollow man for me. You really hate Spencer Rattler. Awesome. I just thought that play was so awesome, dude. If you knew Nellie, he's like the whitest dude ever. Great guy, a little bit boring.

Like, see a swaggy play like that out of him was so sick. Yeah, that was swaggy. After the game, I kind of peeped that in the old post-game interview. I was like, he has like the aura of a kicker, like an oversized kicker. Like he has hands folded behind his back. Like, all right, I'm just happy to have made some plays to help my team. Hollow man. Yeah.

My hollow man is going to AJ Brown, sitting at sitting watching the game, probably hoping the Eagles lose without him out there so he can have all these tweets. That's interesting. And different things lined up. You think he was hoping the Eagles lost? Absolutely. Absolutely. With a guy who's tweeting and doing the antics that he, I can't think, I cannot think

that he wants the team to win without him right now. I'm going to go Halloman, Rahim Morris. I just think Atlanta has kind of, it's hit rock bottom there. Like the inconsistency that they've showed, like there are some good players on that roster when this life makes you mad enough to kill it's rock bottom bad enough to steal it's rock bottom you feel like you had it up the here and you mad enough to scream but you sad enough to tears rock bottom that's rock bottom that's the best emmcd dude it's the best by far far i'm aging myself a little bit but honestly uh i just look at the falcons is such a disappointing team like they they have the makings of a wildcard

team maybe not this year in the nfc but but they have part of it's the quarterback development not being right where it needs to be this year but but i also think the offense has just been a little bit i know rheim's not controlling the offense per se but he made that higher and and i just look at i look at like their inconsistency like that to me yesterday you could lose that game i suppose but like to lose it like that well also seeing seeing with the texans offense who have been pretty much a most of the season what they did to that Niners defense um you know it i think it was a pretty damning indictment of how low the floor is and the Falcons you made the Niners defense look like hey they're going somewhere right exactly and they are not not with that defense uh game ball game ball game ball

game ball is going to chase brown for literally saving joe flacco's life and maybe his season There was a play before the second half that was supposed to be a flea flicker. And Chase Brown after taking the hand off and turning it around, and he was supposed to pitch it back to Joe Flacco. He sees a D.N. screaming at Joe Flacco. And if he had to pitch the back, Joe would have probably, he might have, like, he's an older guy taking a big hit like that. It might sit you down.

You think that, but I'm, this isn't rhetorical. Was that not design at all? I don't think it was designed. Yeah, because I saw a highlight of it, and I was like, oh, slick little play. No, yeah, I think, I don't think it was designed. I think he was supposed to pitch it back. That's pretty impressive. Yeah, and he saw, and he saw it, and he was like, you know what, I'm not going to pitch this.

And then he actually got some yards on a broken play. Yeah. So, and to your point, that might be something they put in the playbook, man. Honestly, I was like, I don't know if I've seen that before. Game ball. I'm going to go all the way back to Thursday and give it to Justin Herbert. Herbie. They scored 37 points on Minnesota coming off that performance.

Joe Alt comes back and they looked really good. And by the way, the Carson Wentz thing, he's, oh, wow. This wasn't even a segue. Carson Wentz will undergo season-ending surgery on his left shoulder. Yep. Not a shock, considering he had a giant brace on it. And like every time he got hit, it looked like the thing was about to fall off. I really felt for him in that game because, you know, when we,

We did the Jacoby Brissette meme with the soldier guarding the baby and all the hellfire running down on the baby. Jacobi Berset was that soldier for Drake May. Carson Wentz is that soldier in a big way for JJ McCarthy. He's Mel Gibson to JJ's Whitney Houston. And so, like, I just, now that he's out, is it Brosmer? Are they just going to roll with the... Well, I know, but I feel like JJ's been healthy enough, and they just don't want to put. them behind this group and it's like a not a soft benching that it's like a hundred percent

personal i feel like it's a soft benching where it's like hey for your own good we're not going to put you through this but now what do you do now that carson's left shoulder basically fell off in that game yeah brosmer's the backup if mark mccarthy can't go so golly well do you sell if you're the vikings yes i saw something about like somebody should try to go get hawkinson like this kind of a wild 180 from hey we're competing Grenard Granard's a great call Bernard's a dog

If Bernard is for sale That might be the best value Edge Russia that there is No I would get rid of some of their Intuity line to Hargrave Yeah They haven't been No

But I think you kind of get what I'm saying I do If they can I do I don't think they'll be able to Because like Kansas City Would take a hard grave Yep

Okay Anybody else Gameball anything I think it's time To line I got one more Oh yeah I mean

we talked about it. Gameball quick Jonathan Taylor, fucking stud. Got to give him some love. It's unbelievable. I think he's the MVP. We talked about it a lot, but God, he's a boss. Stallion.

He's a horse. Your viral moment's pretty good. Okay. I had to do a viral moment this week, and my viral moment is going to Jalen Brown of the Boston Celtics, making a move on a Knicks defender and his head rubbing against

the Nick Defender's stomach. Yeah. And when he, when he brushes against his stomach, there is like a basically a head product skidmark. Got that Beijing? What is it? Yeah, it's Beijing.

But it's just like a hair filler. And it's just such a funny thing to happen because I just feel like now, the fact that everyone knows you have that on. And it's something that like, that stuff can't feel comfortable. when you're sweating. Right. So it's just like now that people know, it's like what's stopping me from like as a defender

going like this, like rubbing on your head. Oh, he'd be the easiest guy to get, to get like mad. Yeah. I just, I'd just be like, he got some here. And then I'd be like, but that's crazy. That's crazy to have the confidence to think that like that's not going to come off. Is that, is that like a poor job? I don't have any experience.

No, it's just. It's just something that you're not supposed to be doing when you're in a full court basketball game, knowing you're about the sweat. But didn't Boozer do it, like, legendarily? My question is to me about sweat. But it's just that I think there was also a difference. I think there's also a difference because Boozer, when he did it, I think he was bald. And it was like he was putting that on and it was sticking.

Jalen Brown has hair. So I think that product is going over the current hair. So why was Boosier doing it when he was bald? Like you're not fooling it. anybody. People think you're fooling people. No, I feel like I heard him tell a story about how like a barber just fucked him up and then he was like, fuck, I got a game tonight and it won't come all. Yeah. No shit. And that's hilarious. Yeah, that's way. And maybe it's the same thing with with Jalen Brown because like, this looks insane. This is insanity. Yeah, this is, uh, but the crazier

thing about this, it's like Lego hair. There's a lot of guys who get hairline. It's, it's, it's, it's hairline enhancements. So that your hairline just looks a little dark. It's, like, and it is basically, it's basically like a temporary ink. Yeah, it's like a henna tattoo for somebody who's got a receding hairline. Exactly. And so that was just a funny moment. Why not get an actual hen a tattoo? Because that lasts like a long time.

I've seen dudes to get henna tattoos on spring break and they're stuck with it. Brennan Schmidt, he got a henna tattoo, was the dumbest henna tattoo in college. And like he got it like during like, I forget when, but like it lasted through like the bowl game. And I was like, this is bullshit, dude. You couldn't, you couldn't henna tattoo something on your head? There's got to be a better way. It could be for sure. Or just go ball, dude.

Might be time. Might be time. That's crazy. That's everyone's toughest thing in the NBA, I guess. That's got to be a tough one. Okay. Monday night football. Commanders at Chiefs.

Chiefs are 10 point favorites with a total set at 48 per bed MGM. Why does this feel like 2820 on a backdoor cover or something? I don't know. What's the injury situation at wide receiver for the commanders? I'm going to pull it up. Sorry, Reid. Go ahead and. Oh, isn't Terry back?

Isn't scary back tonight? Scary Terry. Yeah. He makes a difference, right? Yeah, it makes a difference. But you're really going to have to run the football. I mean, that's going to be the key to the whole thing. You know what I like for a prop bet?

I don't know what his over rushing yards is, but I like the way Marietta runs. Yeah. I think he runs very well. and like when they run the plays, their little lead, lead, wham or whatever, quarterback run. Yeah. Whenever he's in, I think he does actually like a really good job. No, he's got a high floor as a backup, but the problem is like we've kind of gotten accustomed to seeing the chiefs play teams. Maybe with a backup quarterback league, you think of like about the time we're Browning almost beat him or maybe he beat him.

I can't remember, you know, it was a big game like late in the season. And the point is that's like, like, looks a lot more possible when you keep the points down. The safety play on this commander's team, like the play in the secondary has been just atrocious and the pass rush is just not something you're afraid of. So I don't know if there's a game script where the chiefs don't run away with it.

The only way I see the commander's, and I say all this, watch it be a dog fight. But I just like- Chiefs will be down Josh Simmons and Trey Smith is listed as doubtful. Yeah, the Simmons thing they've been used to. We'll see about the

the Tray Smith thing. But gosh, man, I don't want to overthink this one. It does feel like Back to Recovery and all over it. I don't know. I don't want to overthink it, but 2820 was the first number off my dome, so I'm kind of worried about

and maybe it's stay away. Hey, BetMGM, make it legendary. Just watch the game Monday night. Like, that would be something, wouldn't it? Like maybe I could take my own fucking advice. And as you're watching this game, we're going to end the show here, but maybe we can have some tonight. But we get a little turkey, a little turkey for the boys.

We do? This week we have some turkey. The guy who visited us last week. Oh, no shit. Are you serious? Damn, dog. Thank you. That looks terrific.

Oh, man. A little jelly. I'm not going to lie. That looks good. A little jealous? You should be. A little jealous. What up?

He's incredible. He's so great. Thank you. Appreciate it, thank you, thank you, thank you. Appreciate you, brother. Oh, my God. That's so good.

Now, is this the gentleman we met last week? Yep. What a week he had? What's your bucket list, sir? I want to go see the Greenlight pie live. Then I want him to eat me on air. That was his make a wish. Oh my God, you did it to me.

These are delicious. You did it to me. What? You put mayonnaise on it. Is that mayonnaise? No. Oh, thank God. I was about to say, y'all snuck some mayonnaise.

I hate mayonnaise. Okay. Oh, fuck yeah. Look at that. Chris is rocking that undercut brother attitude. Shout out to Kelly Bronze. Oh, yeah. My guy, Judd, appreciate you, man.

Yeah, take a victory lap real quick. You're going to be to feed the nation here in a little bit. Chad, tell us about these sandwiches. Hey, it's simple. I just cooked the bake the turkey, according to our instructions, a little bit of salt and pepper. And then I threw them on a slider so you can actually, you know, get into your mouth without a, without a fork and a knife.

Do you have any oysters? I got a good oyster hook. You do? I really do. Yeah. I found them about three years ago. Oh, shit. Yeah.

When I call the order in, they go get them that day. It's just unreal. You want to have an oyster boil Saturday? A couple dudes hanging out. I don't know if Nate told you this, but he loves oysters. He's like a huge oyster guy. I assume that this is a joke that he doesn't love oysters. No, he does.

No, I do. I do. He does. He thinks if you eat him, you can't control yourself. Oh, I got you. I got you. Control yourselves tonight. We're going to be munching some turkey.

You know, you don't have to bet this game. That's my message to you. You could just sit and maybe a first touchdown prop. What do we think on first touchdown props? Oh, Bill. Marietta. Oh, shit. Meek.

She rice. She rice. I'm coming, bro. I'll be down in a second. Sorry. All right. So we got to go. You take care, everybody.