Green Light with Chris Long - Eagles Defeat Lions, Josh Allen Superhero & NFL Playoff Outlook | NFL WK11 Reactions

Episode Date: November 18, 2025

The NFL's WK11 action is in the books and the playoff picture is starting to take shape. Chris, Beau, Nate and the fellas breakdown the games from Sunday's slate and react to today's playoff standings. The jalen Hurts and AJ Brown overcame their offensive woes as the Philadelphia Eagles defeated the Detroit Lions. Jared Goff couldn't find a rhythm, Dan Campbell was stumped on 4th down and the Eagles defense dominated. The Buffalo Bills, led by a dominating performance from Josh Allen, got back to their winning ways with a victory over Baker Mayfield and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Bo Nix and the Denver Broncos stopped Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelce and the Kansas City Chiefs offense in their tracks. And the offensive output that was expected from the Seattle Seahawks and LA Rams never came but Matthew Stafford still led his team to victory over Sam Darnold. A great Sunday of football that makes the playoff picture that much clearer (or muddier). (00:00:00) - Intro: NFL Week 11 Reactions (00:04:45) - Philadelphia Eagles vs Detroit Lions (00:25:55) - Chicago Bears vs Minnesota Vikings (00:40:15) - LA Rams vs Seattle Seahawks (00:53:05) - Buffalo Bills vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers (01:09:10) - Denver Broncos vs Kansas City Chiefs (01:31:25) - San Francisco 49ers vs Arizona Cardinals (01:38:00) - Green Bay Packers vs New York Giants (01:47:35) - Carolina Panthers vs Atlanta Falcons (01:52:55) - Jacksonville Jaguars vs LA Chargers (02:06:15) - Pittsburgh Steelers vs Cincinnati Bengals (02:11:20) - Baltimore Ravens vs Cleveland Browns (02:18:15) - Miami Dolphins vs Washington Commanders in Madrid (02:23:23) - Bermuda Triangle Game: Houston Texans at Tennessee Titans (02:27:20) - Green Light Phone Line Presented By ZONE (02:41:40) - BetMGM Moments (03:31:35) - MNF Previews Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Also, check out our paddling partners at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Appomattox River Company ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In a matchup like this, the big three wrecked the whole thing for Philly. I mean, that was the story of the game for me. It was a story watching it. And then it became the story as I turned on the tape this morning. And Josh just made them pay for it. They were, you know, there were plays with the backs, getting them involved. You know, obviously when you're going to sneak James Cookout through the B-Gap and Anthony Nelson's on them in the Red Zone, that is a mismatch.

I don't think that the Rams, I mean, I've been gassing them as much as possible. I don't think they're getting enough love. Price of free load is just enough. Yeah, that's how old is it. Whenever Chris stands up, he starts talking about this. Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show. We got people still sitting down, shuffling in.

I'm your host, Chris Long. This is Dr. Fax. That's Noel. There's Cowboy Reed. And there's Bocefus inside the computer. Hello. I'm in here. I'm out here.

I'm everywhere. He is. He's everywhere. How we do? I don't know. I know you've seen that belt to ass. I actually just watched it. Belt to ass, right?

Because I didn't get to watch it in real time. Oh, man. Don't worry. Yeah. We're going to hit it. Yeah, yeah, we are. We're going to hit all 49 of those run players. Yeah, and I bring a new.

Jags brand up there. Got some nice signatures on this helmet. I had to dig in the stacks for this. Yeah. You know, I got a vintage. I was just looking at this. Let me see, this is this like a David Garrard-era-Jagg's helmet. Is that Campman right there, 74?

Yeah, you know he got the scripture on there. I love Campman. dude you know i love campman hot roast on there oh pot roast yeah i got an erin campman signed photo for like my 13th birthday for my dad and i had that thing like on my nightstand for like five years that's so he's a hey that's a great guy to have it great a great guy to have a nice man he was a hell of a player man oh mercedes lewis is on there protected me while i slept yeah look at that mercedes louis is on there still freaking doing it my first year has a jag hell yeah it's crazy he's still out there They're helping Reed's Broncos win some games, man.

The best team in the league. Best team in the league, dude. Look at that, Bo leave. Who else Bo leave? Anybody else in here? I do. I do. You should Bo leave.

And here's the thing. We're going to talk about this today. Nolan and I were talking about this on the ride over. And it's something that I've been talking about a lot lately, which is this is a very unique year for teams aspirations. I mean, like, there's no. juggernaut there's one team and that's what this conversation is born out of and we'll talk about in the Rams breakdown but the Rams are playing like one of

those complete football teams you can go down a list every other team right now and a lot can change by the playoffs is really good in one area lacking in another might be quarterback it might be offensive line it might be defense the Rams seem to have all those things at the point is Reed's team God's team and teams like them who are flawed but have nine fucking wins, they got to believe they can win the whole thing. And you know what? The rest of the year, I'm done poking holes in teams based on like what they can and can't do because it seems like it doesn't matter this year. Like there's only one of those teams out there right now as it currently stands.

And there are matchup problems as you go up and down the list. Like there's certain teams I think don't match up well and I'd be like oh I hated if they saw that team in the playoffs but largely it's a fucking free-for-all and teams like the broncos who we're going to talk about in a couple minutes here um are in it so we were going to do we usually do international game off top i'm not going to do that that game was hideous um trocious it was the poor spaniards we're going to see yeah i know like they didn't deserve this what what did spain do to us that they sent them that game. I saw something.

Is that like a form of a tariff? Yeah, like coming to this game, there was some report of like, somebody from the legal office was talking about how important the Spain market is for the growth of the game. I'm like, why are we doing this to them? Good deal.

Like, treating them pretty poorly. Yeah, that's a brutal one. And they were supposed to be scoring. We'll talk about that in a little bit. I was shocked. It was like Vegas knew that these guys, these guys could not convert and got to have it situations.

I don't want to break the shitty game down before the shitty game happens. So we're going to put that in the flyovers. This week we won't start with it. We'll start with the big Sunday night tilt, shall we? And I'm going to make it about the Eagles, no question, because that was a big win for the Eagles who keep a lot like the Broncos,

keep finding ways to win. You know, like people are going to complain about the quarterback or the offense or the passing game or, you know, this, that, and the third. But the defense is kind of carrying the team. team right now and they're finding ways to win. Okay. I think this game encapsulates perfectly the pickle that the Lions have found themselves in from personnel standpoint up front. I happen to think the Eagles have one of the best interior defensive lines in the league. But in a matchup like this,

the big three wrecked the whole thing for Philly. I mean, that was the story of the game for me. It was a story watching it. And then it became the story as I turned on the tape this morning. You know, they've taken two privileges away from golf this year. You know, the first one, is the run game. It's not always there for them. It wasn't always there for them last night. I thought it took Dan Campbell a while to get the ball on the perimeter. And then the second privilege that's maybe the most obvious in watching the passing game is pocket privilege. He's always had pocket privilege. You know, he's always had a nice, firm middle of the pocket that he can count on, not being at his ankles. You know, the guard play's always been very good,

the center play this year because of injury and turnover. You see what you saw. And you saw. And, you know, I just thought, like on the Phillips sack early guys, I don't know if you saw this, but Jalen Carter just speed bumped Tate Rattlidge. There was a play, and I'm not trying to pick on Tate Rattlidge. I think he's a good player. He's going to be a good player. But Morrow Jomo, who has played fantastic all year long, had two big fourth down stops, including the fake punt, which doesn't go to him on the stat sheet,

but he's the one kind of groundhogging that thing and making a pile. a Jomo hit Ratledge with a basically a hump move backed up late in the game. Maybe you saw this bow, but Ratledge flew out of the bar so fast that I thought he was out on a perimeter screen. That was perfect timing on that. Yeah, it was a whooping dude.

And, you know, we talk about the PbUs. They kept coming up. And a lot of times I think we make too much out of, you know, a wayward PBU where a guy's getting blocked and he gets his hands up and everybody's like, man, what a great play by the defensive lineman. You know, when you do it three, four times in a game,

I think it definitely followed some very smart coaching points this week about like this team operates with or without Sam Laporte in the middle of the field. You know, in cuts, digs, crossers, the whole thing. And if we can get our hands up, they're three six foot five guys, basically. They probably average out six foot five. And when they get their hands up, it makes things really hard. for Jared Gough to operate in there. So I thought the entire interior defensive line

was fucking dominant. They were dominant in the run game. And you get to the guys on the edge. Phillips was great, man. Phillips, I saw Phillips kind of bending back Dan Skipper on a tackle over situation. You see guys like Nkobi Dean making plays. He ran with a wheel with Gibbs on one play.

And the very next play, he's bringing pressure. You know, as you as you watch this defense, it starts in the middle with the linebackers and, you know, the interior defensive line and a nickel who can really play. But they also obviously have, you know, a lockdown corner in Quignon. They've got guys that make plays all over the field. Like everybody does their job on this defense and they're really well coach. So just a banner night for Vic Fangio and for the interior defense line. They won the game, in my opinion. Yeah, just to piggyback off that, you gave Adjama a lot of love.

I thought Jalen Carter, man. I don't think he's been quite as disruptive in the run phase this year as he was last year. But he was awesome last night. I mean, he made a bunch of plays either along or behind the line of scrimmage. When he got doubled, didn't give any ground and let Zach Bond to Kobe Dean. They're so fast or so instinctive. Those guys could knife through, kind of leverage their speed to get through gaps, create negatives. And just one more got a shout out in the run phase, too.

I think an underrated aspect of re-blankenships game is the willingness to, to insert into the run fit. Third down, not on the goal line. It's Gibbs and you in the alley. Yep, exactly. You know, and he makes the play. It's like... When you have a safety who's willing to insert

and, you know, mix it up with the big fellas, it's such a problem solver for the defenses and re-does that really, really well. And obviously the pass rush group, I think last night, the numbers last night said golf didn't complete a single pass when pressured. And that's always been a big.

big whart on his game, you know, across this season, he's got a 53.9 rating when pressure. That's 26. You know, I said that earlier this year and I got yelled at. Well, the numbers don't lie. No, they don't. And I think golf's fantastic, but he's not a guy who can play off the spot. Right. And in a game like this with the weather's shitty, and you could see early that it's going to be hard to throw the ball.

Yep. Like the difference in the game is having a Jalen Hertz, who I don't think played great throwing the football. I'm not going to put them on the hook for it because I thought the wind was terrible and guys were dropping balls on both teams so like that while the passing the passing game in general I'll get there in a second but like I don't think Hertz was

you know I'm not going to blame the passing game on Hertz in that weather because it happened to Jared Gough too but the difference is in the game is the third and 13 scramble where they rush three or you know the backbreakers where he's backed up Aiden Hutchinson takes the inside move you talk about flat loopers I need a flat looper there.

He rolls out and hits Dotson, who gets behind the deep third player. Like, that's the difference in the game is having a guy who can move his fucking feet. Exactly. And if golf is the quarterback on that play, like, if you swap the quarterbacks out, it's a safety. You're talking about a safety. It's a safety. It's a safety. It's a safety.

It's a safety. And that's a catastrophe in a low-scoring game like that. I agree. I think the mobility of the quarterback was a huge difference in this game. And the last thing in Bo, I know you want to get in here, brother. But, like, I thought Jalen Phillips, you know, the first sack you get the credit for, you get the credit for the freebie. But the thing that not enough people are talking about right now is fourth and four

with the game on a line down there when you're in the red zone. For all the fourth in shorts that Detroit didn't get and that sort of thing and guys kept showing up. Fourth and four, he hit fucking Penae Soule with a stab slap that was beautiful. I mean, it was gorgeous, man. And that's where you save your big rushes for. He has showed up. I think he's going to be a really clutch player for this group.

And now you've got this great interior offensive line. You've got a three-down player at left end, which is one of the most important positions on the field because if the guy can play the run, he's going to be over there in traffic, dealing with tight ends. You can stack big wings up. You can disrupt in the run game. He's a rusher. So they keep stacking personnel wins, man.

Like that trade is going to be, I don't know if it's going to be the biggest Howie Roseman deadline move he's made, but like it's up there. It's up there. Yeah. Dude, and that was kind of, I got a little quiet because I was riffing in the chat with the gang and I love that. But dude, I don't think people understand how hard is to go to a new team and have success, whether it's in free agency. Like I went to, you know, I was a part of three different teams during the course of my career. And every time you go to a new team, it's almost like you have to reinvent yourself.

And that's to Jaylon Phillips credit, to go to a new team midseason on a trade like that and immediately have such a big impact that I don't think you can really understate it. like how how important that is and how tough that is to do. So I kind of said it reminds me of Zach Vaughn a little bit. Like obviously he wasn't, you know, a trade like that. He was an offseason acquisition. But for him to come in and immediately like, be like, oh shit, like we were missing this. And it feels like he's been on the team all season. It's just been a couple weeks.

So that's, I mean, credit to him and credit to Howie and Vic for going and IDing a guy who they knew would be an immediate impact and would be a scheme fit. And then, you know, for jailing to execute like that, it's really impressive to me. And I think, you know, we've talked a lot about the defense here, especially, you know, after the win in Green Bay and, you know, the win against Detroit last night at home. But to me, this feels like a much more, like this is a much more exciting kind of defensive win than the one in Green Bay. And there's, you know, a lot of similar circumstances like cold weather games, windy, shit like that. But like, if you just look at the defense at a macro level, I'm not seeing any area at all where there is a weakness. And I think that's really what you want at this phase of the season.

Like it feels like they're just fucking firing on all cylinders, man. And I'm not like I'm just kind of going through. And it's like you just don't feel like any level of the defenses is going to be exposed. I don't know, at least not after a game like last night. I mean, you know, we've said this. It's kind of a litmus test. Can you find a Dory Jackson or whoever it is outside, Keeley Ringo. Yeah.

And that's it like right now. And so you got to hope for good health. You got to hope that your tackle depth stays intact because you've got great tackle depth. You got to hope that teams don't find your weak link. And last night it was going to be really hard to do that. I'll say this. Like watching this game, I said this is the guys last night. It was a dead under, right?

I said that on the live. I hope y'all took it. But watching the game, it felt like if that game's played in a dome, it goes over. I think both offenses find a way to get guys up. Now Petulah is going to have to call different route combinations in a game where he sees that much man or press coverage or the three played like man in certain situations. So you kind of got basically man coverage outside and it felt like they never adjusted to calling man-beater concepts. And it's something that we've always complained about with this group, although sometimes they show up and just play meathead ball in the passing game and win. It's the biggest meathead passing offense I've ever seen.

dude where you know and last night because you just kind of know what you're going to get and it's just like this is what we're going to do our guys are better than your guys here they are they're better than your guys but rock you seen amic robertson those guys play their asses off and you know they played man coverage some they played three right and they were really competitive on the ball and when you're running shitty route combinations and you're running basic stuff it doesn't make it any harder on those guys and so you know whereas where they they man tamp up the whole game a couple weeks ago Baker missed schemed up shots there were no schemed up opportunities where I'm just like oh damn you know there were a couple things where you get in the red zone and you give a j. Brown the

RPO and you're like okay they're trying to they're going to give him a steady day's work and there's certain things where I'm like I like the idea on some of these run concepts I thought you know they hit some explosive runs but too often penalties drops and just the ball not being where it's supposed to be and throwing the ball to very predictable spots in the field. And so I think it played in Detroit's hands. I think they were surprised they got so much competitive coverage. But that's also a Detroit thing where like last year they manned people up. They said, fuck you. You got to beat us. And it was because of situations like the darn old game or what have you. And last night, I think they looked at the weather and said, hey, it's going to be really hard to throw with precision.

and let's man these guys up. And I thought they were a little bit more competitive on the ball than I assumed they would be. I thought they'd play zone like Green Bay did last week. So in a game like this, again, it comes down to the quarterback, having a little athleticism, being able to get out of trouble, and Detroit and the money downs. Like, that's not like Detroit.

It kind of reminds me of the San Francisco playoff game where people are like, man, why'd you go for it? Why'd you go for it? Why'd you go for it? Well, that was the beginning of this thing. or everybody was like, is this really what he's going to do? Last night, the weather makes it more understandable. But to echo the sentiments of, you know, Dan Campbell

and people that supported him in that first situation, a lot of those plays are there. They just didn't execute. And so the Eagles did their part and taking opportunities away and fourth down. I did not like the fourth and two fake punt. Just fucking go or punt the football. Especially against pun safe.

I mean, dude, the way the lions operate offensively, you kind of expect them to just go forward on fourth down. They're pretty successful with it historically. It's like, why are you trying to get so cute against punt safe? You know what I mean? Just keep your offense out there. If that's what it's going to be. I don't know, call time out and just get your offense in the best position

to actually convert that. Don't just run a fucking basically a duo. They just ran a with their bad players. I know. It's like, come on. It's like when Sean Payton was like, let's throw on third and one. We won't do it with the quarterback. Let's do it with the wide receiver.

go ahead so what was your question you think dan camels should take the glasses off and go back go back to let some that's interesting no honestly i think i think he he schemed up some winners man for like going no but they schemed up some winners yeah they're always going to be aggressive i got you i think both offenses play better if they play again inside like and that won't happen because the eagles are going to have a better record come to playoffs but let's say the eagles had to travel to detroit i think there's more fireworks in that game and i think what it took dan a while he was talking about setting up the pass game with the run like they were pepper in the flats early trying to get people to come down in the flats and you know eventually you know they they they they find Gibbs they just

have to force him the ball dude if Gibbs is not on this fucking team it is an ugly deal I mean I just like that's big facts and I think Detroit's a good football team yeah and I think it's more of a compliment to Jemir Gibbs he might be the best football player on the field in most scenarios that he's No doubt. Like, who's better? He's a walking explosive play. Like, they should be force feeding him touches. And they started.

Well, dude, they're getting him so many wheel routes and angle route. And I'm like sitting there. And dude, to Philly's credit, like, who is it that was running with one of them? It was a Dean or Campbell or something like that. But I remember just being like, that is an incredible mismatch. I feel like against any linebacker. And I feel like it might be stride for stride. Stride for stride.

So impressive. You know what I mean? But if you're thinking about matchups that you don't want, that's up there. That's up there. And a quiet thing here. I'm in Ross St. Brown, and I've said this the last couple weeks. He's dropping some balls. I've been whispering it.

Now I'm going to say it out loud because he's top 10 and drops in the league. He's on the list. Yeah. He had the worst single game catch rate of his career, 16.7. The worst previous in his career was 33.3. Hmm. Mm-mm. 12 targets.

Another thing is, before I forget, the Eagles, you know, hey, I thought they got, I thought the Lions got robbed at the end of the game there on the PI. We all were just dumbfounded by that call. So if Lions fans are in here, we're sorry that happened. What do you mean, dude? Adrian Brown got fucking mauled out of that. Okay, yeah, you're right. But we also want to point out, just for the sake of fairness,

like I thought that was on the tush push where Buddy Steen reached out and grabbed dude's hand. That's an offside. Timing of when the calls happened, though, I can't argue with it. That's a bad call. Not that I think Detroit goes down and scores because they hadn't done it fucking in 45 minutes of game play. But, you know, to be fair to that team, they probably deserved the ball back one more time. I thought there was questionable officiating all weekend, including in that scenario, that just happened to be a huge. It made you feel like at the end of the game, I'm like,

damn, it comes down to a call. I want to see the defense. It probably ends in a Jaylen Phillips walk off sack. Like, that's how I want to see the game end at the link. So Lions fans, I'm sorry that happened, but they're not perfect. The Eagles are human on four. They made the Eagles look human on on fourth and short. And they're starting to look a little bit more human in these tush push situations, whether they're, you know, penalties or you're overthinking it

or you're getting stuff. Like, I don't see that a lot, so it's something worth watching. So with the detackles combining to have, what, like about five PBOs between them last night, getting their hands up for the Eagles, Jalen Carter and, what's,

Jordan Davis? Do you think that just so happened in the flow of the game, or is that something? If you're a D coordinator, you look at doing me, hey, maybe when we're playing against the Lions, they have a lot of these middle crossing routes. We let our ends rush, and we maybe do have our D-Lyman

stay there and keep their hands up to kind of cover these paths. Well, they're pushing. Interesting, you said that. Go ahead. I was just going to say, I saw something that Jordan Davis said in the media, and I don't think this had been mentioned yet, but he said that he saw something in Goss throwing motion that was some sort of timing indicator

as like when to get your hands up, as a defensive tackle. Let's not forget, like, Jordan Davis is a fucking massive human being. I think he's six, six, but I feel like his arms are like, yeah, you know, especially long. I think the thing is facts is you just like Chris kind of mentioned this earlier. All the stuff that the lines do over the middle,

you just know that that's an area of your defense that they're going to attack. So if you're Jordan Davis and you're in the vice, you know, so you're rushing the slide. It's just great timing by him and awareness to know that that's a huge part of their offense by Danny. It's like you're not, you know, a one-on-one anyway. just get those massive dick beaters up there. Oh my God.

I'm trying to slip that in there. I got like no reaction. Oh my, I just, I'm not trying to go where we were last week. Dude, I'm just not trying to go there. That's a big win for the Eagles,

especially you consider like, hey, you know, if the Lions figure this thing out and keep winning or start winning, you know, it could come down to a tie break. You know, it's a fucking conference game.

And, uh, and, As you can see, while I do respect Jared Gough's abilities outdoors, it is tough playing that team. And they were down Sam Leporta. I'll give them that. And I do think the lines are fine.

I think they just ran into a buzzsaw, and I think they played a team that matches up really well against them in a situation that it was going to be hard, and they got what they got. Then it was funny after the game. They got what they got. I sound like Jordan Davis after the game. Remember after the game they had Jordan Davis,

and they were like, what did you think? And he was like, well, you know, that's what they get for coming in here. Like, they got what they deserved. I'm like, bro. I'm like, do you think they. Yeah. Did they like, they're on the schedule. They got it.

Did they just walk in and like piss on your sofa and be like, we're, we want to play you tomorrow, dude. But I love that because it was that kind of game where it was like it was the two biggest guys at the bar. Yeah. That's what that shit reminds me of is like his roadhouse and whoever the two baddest dudes are. The minute Dan Campbell walks in, Nick Sirion. he's looking at him and he's looking at Nick Siriani and everybody's at each other's next. It was a really competitive fucking football game.

And Jameson Williams, who I love. Gully. With the Delilah's thing. What's that? The jumping on the hole? Yeah. I love it. No, I've never been to Delilah's, but I hear that's what happens there.

I swear to you, I haven't been to that one. It's a strip club. I could fix that. But, no, don't. But, but, but, but, But the fact, come on, like, the stripper, you're probably going to get penalized for that, brother. But, like, why? Like, is it because he could use the field goal post?

I'm sure there's a real reason. Yeah. It's probably a concrete. It's probably dunking, like, because those field goal posts, they do move. Yeah. And they have to, like, level them. Yeah. But he's a small guy.

No harm, no foul. You know? I don't know, man. He really went into that pole. Because I think about it back of the day, did, did Zeke get fined for jumping in that barrel. Oh yeah, I'm supposed to retweet our live stream. Let me do that right now.

He did get fine for jumping in that barrel that time. I just feel like certain things that they should be. The fact that Buddy didn't get fine for doing the double pump on the ground, humping the ground twice. Well, not yet. Not yet. Who was that? From the bills.

He ran the running back. Ty Johnson maybe? Was it Ty Johnson? Yeah. I think Ty Johnson, when he scored, he, he, fake like a hamstring injury and then he laid down yeah yeah you say it's back karma because didn't that happen to somebody earlier this year i think faking an injury on any type of celebration is bad karma just like don't do it i think putting your testicles in the goalposts might

be a might be a penalty bad for him when you put it when you put it like that yeah yeah yeah all right so um how bad did you want to see that cost him though somebody says somebody in here somebody in the chat kevin kernick says jamo oysters The oyster boy for sure. Man, I feel like so many coaches. We might need to give out like an oyster. Oyster award of the week. This thing's kind of taking life of its own in the last couple weeks.

Yeah. The most pause move of the week. Yeah. All right. So shall we get into Ramshawks because that was the big one? Bears? Oh, yeah. We do need to talk about the bears first because we.

Damn, you're loving the Seahawks? No. No, what do you mean? Is this jumping games? No, I forget. I got to worry about this whole show. Excuse me for making a mistake. I don't get my two games and come in with free lunch every Monday.

Fucking like everybody else. All right. I mean, fuck. You had that one ready to go. No, I didn't. It just came. It just rolled off the tongue. Hey, you guys, can you handle this game?

a half. Price of free loans just went up. Yeah, that's Al Grohl is. All right. So we've got the bears because, and the way I structured this thing, it was like, at the beginning of the show, I want to talk about division leaders. And we get to the flyovers. We're going to basically put all the wild card teams in the flyovers.

We are talking about the bears because the Lions lost this game. Nate Collins, Chicago Bears, one of his teams, seven-win team in the NFL right now. out leaving their division. Do I think that the Bears are like a contending team? Hard to believe. I think even Bears fans would tell you that. They are a year ahead of schedule. But boy am I impressed with the way they're growing up.

It's all positive for me, especially when it comes to the quarterback late in games. But it hadn't just been the quarterback. The mark of a good team is winning close games, right? Like finding a way to win close games, finding different ways to win close games, finding ways not to lose games, like they did last year late in games. Okay, the last two weeks has been the offense, right? The two weeks before this week, where it was a freak show catch and run from Loveland. It was, hey, in three minutes of offense,

we need two scores. Let's do it, 150 yards. We'll go get that against the Giants. But they got a kick return yesterday. That's big. You had a turnover that you parlayed into a game winning kick against Washington. You got a turn over that you parlayed into a game winning kick against Washington. you got a blocked field goal against the Raiders. So you're finding different ways to win. And I thought also, you know, kind of a microcosm of that is, not every week is going to be a wide receivers game for this group. They found the tight ends yesterday.

And in a game where Caleb Williams has blitzed 78% of the time, 78% of the time, did Caleb Williams do something personal, Brian Flores' family? That was a chin check of epic proportion. and he passed the test. He didn't take a lot of sacks. The whole year he's been that way. You know, just to play like an adult on the road in that setting,

I think is the story of the game for the Bears. And, you know, they're a flawed team, but they're a flawed seven-win team. Now, on the other side of things, Minnesota. Nine. It's getting to be a, yeah, like, it's... You're not that guy, pal. You're not that guy.

You're not that guy. You're not that guy. I'm not saying he can't be that guy. I don't want to take away. I want to be fair to him. But the same way I've said, like, hey, I watched Michael Pennix. And Pennix played well yesterday before the injury, which is very unfortunate. But, like, I see things with the young quarterback that I'm like, red flag, red flag.

I'm not saying you can't be the guy, but I see a lot of red flags with nine. And, you know, it could be related to the car door injury, right? But I've seen a repeat pattern. of just for this offense to be maximized, you got to be able to hit the big throws. You got to be able to hit the big deep outs, the big deep comebacks, the digs, the deep overs. Like, you got to be able to take out big chunks, man.

And he has not made those throws with regularity. And, you know, somebody's asking here, do you bench him for Brosmer? I don't know, because if you think he's the future, I think the uncomfortable truth might be that he's not ready yet this year. And if you think he can develop through playing, because this is his second year and who's hurt last year,

you have to stick it out. And it might cost you a year of your window. And the thing that they have to contend with is this is a GM that hasn't drafted particularly well. And now they're on the ass end of a quarterback decision. The saving grace for them is that Sam Darnold was like a terrorist yesterday. That's the only saving grace. Because had he gone and won that game,

and he almost did having thrown four picks, this is ugly, man. And so I'm not saying it's a five alarm, five alarm fire or something like that, but it is like early on I'm not encouraged by what I see from the young quarterback. So with you saying all that, and if I truly believe that,

if I'm on that team, what do I do if I'm Justin Jefferson, who's in the mindset of right now? You deal with what a lot of other players in the NFL have to deal with, which is being in fucked up situations. I had to deal with it for a lot of my career. I think if you're just...

But he just happens to be one of the best players in the league. But it's just like... But that's something... You read it out of the sideline. But the reason why I think it's different is, even though you're in that fucked up place position in your career, you're in a position where you control everything that you're doing.

Not true. Not true. Well, not total... Not true. But don't you think of why receiver has to rely more... As a pass rusher, do I not rely on leads? Do I not rely on... coverage do I not rely on game scripts I mean like yeah it's it's not a clean analogy but what I'm

saying is whether it's a backer who's got guys in front of them that can't fucking hold a double team yeah or a corner who has no pass rush or you know like teams players deal with this all over the place he just happens to be so fucking good that everybody's like this is such a shame yeah you know it's all relative I you know what can he do the same thing he always does which is he's a team player and he's and he tries to keep his body language he's pretty good with the body language yeah that's what i'm saying a little bit of frustration from yeah like for the first point you know for the first time ever i think in his you know in his very successful last couple years like you're starting to see some of that frustration creep through i feel like he might have thrown a

helmet yesterday maybe i can't remember don't blame him that that was no he should i don't blame him either i'm not saying he picked the quarterback up and threw him i wouldn't we all know that and then Everyone keeps talking about this nine is cool nine nine nine he's probably like fuck that he's probably it's his least favorite number Justin Jefferson counts the 10 one two three four five six seven eight ten dude exactly like like that alter ego throw me the rock and I don't think the rock listen there's nothing wrong with being a young player and being like hey I got to have confidence of swagger I got to lead a team people got on Bryce Young's ass because he's quiet and diminutive like and he smiles a lot.

And then they're on JJ McCarthy because he's too, like, tough guy. And he's too like... If you're not playing well, people hate whatever you're doing. The only way to fix it is to play well, dude. It's just the win.

Because you know what's funny? In the meantime, maybe the quotes... You know what we haven't heard about? Smidge love. In so many weeks, that was probably the hottest topic at the start of the season. Haven't heard one fucking nail polish joke at all about...

No! Caleb will, you know why? Because he's winning games. Because when he fucking... When that young kid breaks the pocket with the football in his hand, I'm like, oh, something's about to happen. Playoff blue nail polish coming soon to Chicago. You guys wait for it.

I am really happy, and it's so fun to cut through the bullshit in sports media because we talked about, oh, he grew up on the West Coast. He cried after a game. He paints his nails. Is that a purse? Is that a MERS? Who gives a fuck, man? Watch ball.

And if you had doubts about him coming in, like I did the first year, it was because of the timing with which he played. It was because of him playing sped up compared to what he had to do in college. And like, you know, he's gotten over that thing. I mean, he's not taking sacks. He's playing with better timing. He's better coached. Surprise, surprise.

The guy's got a million fucking tools. But also one thing that we haven't brought up at all with the Bears, their run game has been really impressive. No question. A couple weeks. They had 140 yards rushing. And it's like he's not having to do it all himself is kind of what I'm trying to say. you're getting a sense that, you know, this this Ben Johnson culture, you know, whatever that might be, whether it's got that Dan Campbell flavor, if it's got, you know, Benny J's persona of its own.

Like you, you get a sense that the bears are actually finally developing some sort of culture. And that that's what I'm excited about. The thing that I am interested in is like they're winning games and that's the most important thing. We all know that. They're kind of winning these ugly games. And I really don't have a good sense as to whether or not they are a good. football team. But winning games is the number one hallmark of a good football team, but I just don't, I just can't tell if they are challenged by any sort of team with maybe a more, a better, a more

consistent approach on a weekly basis if they hang in there whatsoever. I want to see their schedule so far this year because, you know, like you start with the year with a loss to Minnesota. You get, you get fucking drugged by Detroit. That game's closer now, I think, but it's still not a great match for them. You beat Dallas, you beat the radies, you beat Washington, you beat New Orleans, you lose to Baltimore, you beat Cincinnati, you beat New York, you beat Minnesota, where the quality wins.

Those, and, you know, in today's NFL, you know, the reason I'm sitting here saying, okay, if a Broncos fan over there, an Eagles fan over here, if we were to say, hey, you know, Bears fans like, we're like you.

Well, no, you're not. Your team's flawed just like our team, but the quality wins. And I think that's a very fair thing. We want to see that happen. They're going to have some chances here coming up. They play Pittsburgh, and they go at Philly, at Green Bay, then the Browns, another game against Green Bay in Week 16,

and then at San Francisco, ending with Detroit. There's a brown sandwich because you don't call it a sandwich because of the bread. But the Green Bay is the bread, and Cleveland's the, the meat. Sorry, Nate. But in that situation, like, that's, that's, that's, that's a month straight. Here's who they get for a fucking month straight. Here's what they get for five weeks straight.

T.J. Watt. Hi, Smith, those guys we just talked about in Philly. Micah Parsons, Cooper, all those fucking dogs out there. Cleveland, Miles Garrett, and then back to Green Bay again. So, so, you know, and then they get a short break on defense. or on offense at least facing San Francisco, but then they play Detroit. So if they get in the playoffs, they're absolutely real.

And fortunately for them. It'll work itself out. Fortunately for them with this run of opponents is there aren't too many offenses right now that on a consistent basis are playing great football. And that's the thing with Chicago. Their defense has not been good this season. They have Jalen Johnson practicing trying to get back from IR. Kyler Gordon could return to practice from IR this week.

but it has been a problem for them. They're not generating pressure. So I think that's going to be something that we'll see down the stretch. Rear, it's ugly head. And listen, I know you guys don't think this stuff matters, but last night I looked and was it Bears laying three this week in a game against the Steelers? They're going to win that game.

They're going to win that game. It's still Bears laying three. Is Ramsey going to be suspended? I feel like they're going to win that game. No, Ramsey, why would Ramsey be suspended? He threw the punch. He threw the punch. It's just a fine. I feel like in the air, you kind of got to be like, listen, you got spit on.

And that's what I was going to ask you, but like, can they do that? I don't know. We'll see. But the whole point is, I think the Bears should feel like they should win at home this week against the Steelers. You should be able to run the football. Let's see. I mean, like, so, and I can't wait to see Darnel Wright against the Steelers. Yeah.

He's one of my favorite players in the league. When he. that's one of the most underrated players in the league last week because he should be talked about the way they're talking about the guy in Detroit when he stone who I heard never gets beat when he stonewalled Brian Burns that spin move yeah he spun it and just

stopped him he was like Brian Burns was looking up at him like wow man that was a lot of power he's a powerful man he's a fucking powerful man hold on real quick if we're looking right now at the playoff picture we don't need to get into the siton but it's the bears there's a whole wild card section

there's a whole wild card section to this show, but it's on the back. All right, well, we can wait. The bears would have the Packers first round. Three, three, six. Ooh. I mean, they still have Green Bay twice on the schedule is kind of what I'm getting at, Chris. But we can wait until the wild card.

There's a possibility they play three times. Oh, yeah. Those are the past, actually. Like a four-week period? That's crazy. Yeah. Like, what do you do? Yeah.

But we'll talk about Green Bay and the whole picture later on the show. I want to get back to, Willis. Yeah. Do you really want Malik Willis? Maybe. If you're a Packers fan? I mean, I like what it looks.

I think that's extremely short-sighted after the way Jordan Love played yesterday. It is, but I do like the- We'll get there. Seeing him a little bit. I don't- Wasn't quite a wrinkle. Huh? It was an injury.

No, yeah. Yeah. But seeing him in there during that little bit of time, is this like, no, I mean, he's a new little, this is a wrinkle that you can maybe throw in to help or make it harder for. for de coordinators to look at, to have to. You guys, do you guys want to preview the Monday night game right now too? My bad. No, I'm fucking around.

I'm just fucking around. I'm just busting y'all's balls today. I'm going to just bust y'all's balls all day. Because I'm like dad driving a minivan, dude, on like a 27-hour school trip. You know? I got fags and bow in the back. All right. We got to get to the Rams and the big win yesterday.

this was a huge game. We kind of described it coming in as two teams that were the best in the league right now, the way they were playing. I still think they're, you know, when you aggregate the way these teams have played through the year, like good luck playing these two teams in the playoffs. Like that's the these matchups you don't want, depending on where the game is, Seattle at home is a bad matchup for a lot of teams. But the Rams can match up with anybody. And that's why right now I feel like, you know, if we're being honest, and I know, you know, Eagles fans will tell me, well, we beat the Rams. What's the eye test say right now about like the way the team's firing on all cylinders.

I think this is the best team in the NFC right now. Yeah. And I think we should start this breakdown this way. Ernest Jones said after the game, Sam has had us in every fucking game for for him to say it's on him. No, it's not. If you got anything to say, fuck you. Now, before I say anything about Sam Darnold's performance, I just want to say Ernest Jones, I don't think he's a bad player.

and I like you, so it's not fuck me, dude. It's just, I'm doing my job here. The difference in the two teams that are so similar, and we described it that way, you know, we're kind of like, hey, it's, you know, the one outliers, maybe the special teams because Seattle's special teams better than the Rams and that sort of thing.

And the one thing we're not really talking about enough is the quarterback. You know, and that's not to say Sam Darnel's not a good football player. Because I think the fucked up thing about him right now no matter what he does. Other players get a game like that. Four picks, spectacular. When he does it, he does it all the way. You know what I'm saying?

Like when Sam is like, I'm going to shit in my pants. Like, I'm just going to go. Like, I'm not even going to like, like, I'm not going to try to hold it. Like, is that running down my leg? No problem. Like, I want to get it all out. And that's what the game was. And like, listen, other, Josh Allen just lost the damn Miami Dolphins last week

and looked terrible in the process. and yesterday in a win where they scored like a million points. Now, do I think Sam Darnold is Josh Allen? No, but I'm illustrating a point which is other quarterbacks get like bad performances. Patrick Mahomes played like shit in some spots yesterday. Sam Darnold played like ass yesterday in the biggest spots through four picks and they're kicking a 61-yard field goal with a chance to win it. So keep that in mind.

But the Rams earn this win. And I think the Rams, you know, not only have the advantage of quarterback, but they have the advantage of a team at home who probably felt disrespected on the defensive side of the football that all we talk about is a Seattle defense. You would think the Delta was like this between the defenses when in reality, it's somewhere in here. And, you know, I think the Rams,

even with Clinton Lake down for much of the game, found a way in the biggest spots to force Sam Darnold into mistakes. And the worst thing about the fucking picks is the first one it's first in 10 it's cover one robber Kitchens reads him like Goodnight Moon dude he's like Like a book

Like a book and I think Sam will sometimes predetermine where he goes to the football And I think sometimes he presses And the first one was a predetermination The following few picks were presses Now the second one, Byron Young wins You've got him in your armpit You're just you're ripping the football right

And Durant they've been going to him early He makes a play But the second half picks were terrible And I'll say this because the first one's on first and 20. And I don't think he sees the safety not once. I don't think he, and I think he predetermines it. He throws a pick there. Third and three, this is terrible because it's two-score game.

All you have to do is burn it or check it down, kick a field goal. It's a one-score game. Instead, you know, and Shaheed's open in the middle of the field, by the way. The games up front really frustrated this offensive line. We said that coming in. They can't block games. A lot of this offensive line, and I'm not saying it's a bad group, but there's a thin veneer. And the veneer is held up by one good health, which we'll talk about in the second.

That's going to be a problem going forward. But also the run game and, you know, slowing rushers down based on being in big personnel. And when the game gets out of their control and they have to go lighter personnel, they did not run the ball well. They can only really run the ball well right now in this matchup out of heavy personnel. And, you know, I just thought in this game, like being behind the game script was pretty illuminating because it causes them to press. And, you know, as much as Mike McDonald trusts his defense and punts it on like fourth and one late in the game and that sort of thing, they can only do so much if you're kicking field goals. I think before the half they should have gone.

They're down at that point, what is it, 14-6 or something like that? They get it to 14-9. to me, you should just fucking go. You're getting the ball out of the half. It puts even more on this on your offense to go down and get a score. But in that scenario, you should go. I just thought, yeah, like, I just thought this was, was, now you've got Bradford. Okay, Bradford, who hasn't blocked a single second level defender probably all year in the run game.

One thing he does well is like a big, big, like double team guy, like big body in there, just the grunt stuff. but you lose Zabel, okay, and you're down, your center and Sundell. It's like a school of fish in there. It used to be one fish, now there's three fish. And so it's going to be hard for them for two tackles who are not like world beaters outside to protect. And so that's why I'm worried about, like, and it's not all Sam Darnold's play, but I am worried about on the heels of a game like this,

one, the mental toll it takes on the football team. And you guys know this. When you come back in a building after your quarterback just lays an egg like that, and your quarterback Sam Darnold, is there any doubt? I know what Ernest Jones said, but is there like an internal doubt where it's like, damn, this is what's going to happen in a big game. And for Sam, does it creep into his head? And does this stuff up front start to compound?

You've got to get healthy up front. I don't know what's going on with Gray's able. What's to deal with him? I don't think there is an update yet this morning, but I don't think the reports were too positive. Oh, wait, no, there we go. an hour ago Mike put down a really positive injury update on Gray's Able but yeah I agree I thought I thought Chris Schuel had a hell of a plan in this game

you know from a coverage standpoint it felt like every in-cut the JSN or cup ran there was either a safety playing inside leverage on it or a linebacker playing underneath of it that was clearly a point of emphasis for them they're going to take those throws away from him and then I also felt like Shaheed just did not have the impact they hoped he would and I think that was because of like you were saying Chris the the pressure those guys were able to generate they kind of sped darnled up he wasn't willing to wait for those longer developing concepts down the field when and there were opportunities down the field that's right when you go through the tape there were there were spots that that could have been cut loose for him dog the play forbes made we got it yeah Forbes played big he's great but that that go ball in the red zone like that changes the game awesome play yeah he does a great job a little bit of throne maybe he does a great job he does a great job he does a great job with running with verticals, you know, with the length and the speed he has, being a higher cut guy, he can get caught a little bit in transition with like in breaking or out, breaking routes,

intermediate level, but anything vertical, he can, he can blanket those. So, and I also thought the Rams rushing defense did a great job too, especially versus outside zone. Seahawks had only a 14% success rate with that concept in this game compared to 36% across the season. That's top five success rate in the league with that concept. So, Shout out to our guy byron young Jared verse those are the edge setters in that defense they did a great job keeping those runs turned in Yeah dude and and honestly it it kind of became a thing where They were reducing like you know verse I don't know if he has carte blanche to kind of reduce When he thinks they're getting front side like it zone

But they really like to muddy things up and make it bounce all the way And listen like they're just a physical group. They're so physical landman's physical yep You know, the back end, tons of unheralded guys. We talked about Emmanuel Forbes, Duran making plays, kitchen is making plays. The difference between them in Seattle is marketing on defense right now. Like, it just is. Like, Seattle's, they're incredible.

They're a really good defense. Are they L-O-B territory? Well, like, I think it's a little soon to have those conversations. We've kind of hinted at it because people have brought it up. But, you know, I think, there's two really good defense to that division and that was proved yesterday so just a just to just to fucking sean mcvay win man like that's the one thing about the rams like early in the game it's turnovers it's it's uh it's the run game it's the bow as you pointed out the screen game yeah you know

yeah they can take on different forms to beat you they're they're really good man i don't think that the rams i mean i've i've been gassing them as much as possible i don't think they're getting enough love and I know we've kind of moved on from this conversation but I know just talking about the Donald stuff real quick I want to see him so badly overcome this kind of Rams playing like playing the Rams kind of yips type thing and he has them one more time and I'm just fucking saying I want to see him absolutely ball out against the Rams on December 18th just till we can like hopefully he can finally like overcome this and put it to bed he'll be fine he'll be fine his time in Minnesota yeah I think he'll be fine too and i think he's great i just think he has a little bit of the darnold you know

hangover perception of like he's always going to be this guy because of you know the way his is you know cinderella story in minnesota ended last year and i just want him to fucking put that narrative to that's all but i promise you the narrative is not minnesota i it's just the draft it's it's it's the jets which people have a really hard time moving on from like you know again he finished the year last year really bad but it was explainable um and what if i'm the seahawks and you know schneider's done a great job of building this roster but like i thought at the deadline going out and getting a guard would have made them a really bulletproof unit now now you really wish you had because i don't know what's going on gray's able hopefully it's nothing um but they have injuries inside so that like that's

what worries me about sam darnal's future not i think he's a good player i think he'll stay that way if you protect him. Speaking of that week 18, or week 16 matchup on the 18th, did this game give you much confidence in one team or the other for that game? I think if I'm Seattle, I'm coming out of it and saying, dude, our quarterback threw four picks on the road, and we almost won. Like, we got the ball, and this is another thing.

Shout out to, you know, the Rams special teams who have been much maligned this year, punting the ball at the end of the game. By the way, Seahawks had shitty field position throughout the whole game. I told you to look that up. I'm sure you got stats on it. 25th. They started their own 25.

But four times they were inside the tent. Yeah, and those starts make all the difference in the game, especially when it's a field goal game. But at the end of the game, how about that? The thing that separates you in a game where we said, hey, the Seahawks special team is so good. Rams not so good this year. They, the most perfect coffin corner punt

I've seen all season, half yard line. That game comes down to a kick. And the fucking, it's compounding because the Seahawks spend a minute getting out of the shadow of their own goal line because the Rams knocked down the outbreaker in bounds on first down. And then it's just like a fire drill, man. And so like Rams defense, Rams special teams, Rams' offense didn't have to get going.

Right. Which makes them a complete football team. And that 20 yards on that coffin corner pun is pretty much the difference in the game. Because they started the one and then they missed the, That's it. If they started the 15, it's a chip shot. Yep. You know, and if ifs were a fifth, right, Nate?

But the point is, special teams came through for the damn Rams there, dude. So, by the way, this is a stat that I didn't get to spit out during the Bears Vikings. Breakdown the Vikings have now called 16 pass plays this season on third and fourth. In short, three or less with McCarthy as the QB. which I don't think I have the end of that stat but it wasn't good so that was just staring at me from my ledger here all right let's get into

let's get into what's next Bill's Bucks oh my God Bill's Bucks old Josh Allen putting on a superhero cape Josh Allen did put on a superhero cape but I'll just say this like on a day where he tied Cam Newton for for the NFL record and rushing touchdowns.

It was like 75 or something from a quarterback. It's ironic because like Sam, you know, Cam, Sam, Cam would have, Cam Sam, Cam would have these days where like he might throw a pick or two, but he just puts the fucking team on his back and goes and wins the game. And it wasn't perfect all the time, but damn it, if you were alive to see it, any of these young people that question Cam Newton? And like what he was in his prime, you're too young. You're just, you weren't born early enough.

And I don't blame you for being ignorant. But he was just a one-man band. And that was kind of like, ironically, he was doing it with like a vintage mid-2010s Cam Newton group outside. Somebody said in the chat last night, what do you have against Shavers? I got nothing against Shavers. I didn't call him an asshole. I just said he shouldn't be leading your team and receiving yards.

They're doing this thing with, they're doing this thing with Gabe, Davis outside off the street. They're doing this thing with Shavers outside. They're doing this thing without Kincaid. And they're doing it against a good defense. That defense makes a lot of other people sweat. And so, you know, the reason I kind of like on a week like last week where people are like, what's wrong with the offense? And I get it. Like I shit on Josh last week. You didn't play well. There's nothing wrong with this offense. You know, the defense eventually is what worries me on this team but yesterday they were just able to outscore these guys i thought todd and i respect it the warrior's spirit to be like hey and shakir said it before the game this is the most physical

group of corners that we play todd was like fuck this we're going to play our game we're going to man these guys up because we don't think that that good outside and josh just made them pay for it they were you know there were plays with the backs getting them involved um you know obviously when you're going to you're going to sneak james cook out through the b gap and anthony nelson's on in the red zone that is a mismatch um you know they found those mismatches and i thought joe brady for slumping as he's been i thought closing out the game that last drive there were a lot of really good run concepts just josh palmer back on the field um the whole thing i would say this about gabe davis Gabe davis this works keon coleman doesn't want to show on show up on time for shit and

you heard dion dockins talk after the sounds to me like somebody who's a good vet who's going to be straight up with you who's not going to sugarcoat it he's not going to tell you he hates you or it's over for you but he's going to tell you it's close and that's kind of the way i think it is for keon coleman right now he was he's showing up late to stuff he missed a meeting suppose he was he missed a meeting like on friday or something oh which is a bad deal that's the day everybody's supposed to be mentally on the ball in the building and it doesn't matter when you miss a meeting it's a bad deal but the point is i'm not saying it's addition by subtraction but what it is is Gabe davis on the field think about them not making a move at the deadline and you know you heard rumblings of jalen

waddle and that sort of thing brandon being not being willing to like part ways of what it would have taken now you could have gone out and and you know made a move for somebody like a d mitchell or something you know which is great by the way looks like the greatest receiver on the planet until the ball hits him in the hands fucking you could make any number of small splash plays the game davis play off the street is a really good one for me because you think about what they need is you need a guy to walk in and know how to just plug into the offense this guy and josh have been playing catch for years now yep and um i think him coming off the street there's nobody like him if Gabe davis was like a Denver bronco next week everybody would be like i don't know if he's going to make the team

you know and they don't have the best receiving core outside but it makes a lot of sense because of the familiarity um and i think like off the street fourth and for going to him how about that trust um you know i i just think uh i think you took a step forward in in in the past game yesterday defense is going to be a fucking hold onto your butt all year long dude but uh i'm concerned chris i have concerns yeah i hear him you mentioned it briefly but the rushing defense i mean just with some of the injuries that they've had inside uh ed oliver being gone has continued to just kind of rear its ugly head for me now the the bucks you know they've had a pretty inconsistent rushing attack.

I've talked a little bit about it. I like Sean Tucker. I like Rashad White a lot. I think they're good. Now, Bucky Irving, I've always said, like, he's their guy. He brings a juice in their run game. But like, this isn't a crew who should be putting up 200 yards on anybody every, every week. I don't think.

But the injuries that they've had offensively on their offensive line, like how banged up they've been. Now, don't get me wrong. They're getting healthier. But I'm just trying to say, like, if there is a concern of mine for the bills defensively, it's the, you know, it's their run defense. And it's got to be, especially like this time of the year is when you want to have the strongest rush defense, you know, going into the playoffs, late season, cold games, where teams kind of know who you are defensively. Like, you've been

putting the same stuff out on tape every single week. So I think that that's going to be a pretty big concern of theirs going for it. I'm not sure how they, you know, the best, the best way for them to fix it. I just think this is a little bit of a glaring week. There's no way out, bro. It's like, at this point in the season, it's a sobering thing when the trade deadline passes and you look around at your room and you're like, not that most of my teams were ever like trying to buy at the deadline, but you're just like, nobody's coming to rescue us. Like if we, if our D tackle group can't stop the run, like there's not a bunch of like, you know, glass eaters just sitting out there on the street, um, ready to come. Well, me and you are available, Chris. We are available.

You just said that before. We're ready. Like, I can get 12 to 15 snaps a game. Yeah, I don't know. I'm not popping my Achilles to play a three technique. You know, like, that's what they try to do to me in New England, bro. I'm not going back there. But like, no, they, the guys inside, like I said last week, it was a dumpster fire. The tape was terrible. And I also think the backers, man, like, I thought Bernard made a lot of great plays yesterday, especially like knocking down perimeter screens and that sort of thing, like quick game out on the perimeter.

But they had those guys in a blender. They had those guys in an absolute blunder. And then at one point, Matt Milano, I think, is in man coverage on a back out of the backfield. And they hit him for a big gainer. So there's Sean Tucker in the red zone. I just think if I'm a Bucks fan, I'm encouraged by what I saw on tape from a run game standpoint. I know it's the bills, but I thought they were really cooking with gas in the run game. The problem is fourth quarter down five in a game where you can't get a stop.

It's the ball's on 39 yard line. Your own 39, mind you, but it's fourth and two. and Todd Bowles, defensive head coach saying, we can fix it. Like, give it back to our defense. I think I can do better this time. That's the problem sometimes with a defensive head coach where you're just too conservative

because you have a built-in bias that your unit has not played well enough yet to date because of something that's controllable. In that situation, in a five-point game where you're Josh Hounds in Superman mode, you've got to fucking go. and hope that you can force them to kick a field goal because that's exactly what happened is

you punt them the ball, they go down and score and they take time off the clock. And like, that's where the game's lost to me in these shootout situations. The other thing I'll say is this, and I don't want anybody misconstruing the fact that I, Josh played poorly in spots in this game, but he also played like Superman.

And I think that's the difference is like where you say, hey, certain guys, how does Josh get away with it? Because it's the crazy hot scale thing. I hit this on my live live live stream last night. Crazy hot scare. Yeah, it's a white guy. That's such a good take. We talked about crazy hot.

That's so good. There's like an a, there's two axes, and one is crazy and one's hot. Okay. And there's like an area in the middle that you, I can only show you. I can only show you if I have an intersection. It's an intersection. Yeah. But basically that's-

Well, you're slowing me down. Hot as in like, hot as in, what is, when you were saying hot as in, what is, when you're saying It's actually attractive. Okay. No one wants to fuck Josh Allen. No, I'm just, it's a metaphor. Your scale. Can I just try to understand your scale?

It's talking about attractiveness, hot. Yes. Can somebody put the crazy hot? I mean, five minutes ago, guys. Jesus Christ. I get it. If I was an octopus, I'd have it up. This is cultural awareness.

I'm trying to get engulfed in your culture. I don't know that it is all white folks culture, but there is a pretty well-known thing called the crazy hot scale. And for black folks, we have the fuck around and find out scale. Yeah, we have the crazy hot scale. Okay. The crazy hot matrix. Can you, can you, can you?

I don't want to, I think, I don't want to play a whole thing. I don't want to play a whole thing with the fuck around and find out in the crazy hot scale though. Do you see this though? Yeah. Okay. Overlap. So fun zone, date zone, danger zone. You see the danger zone is when somebody's like real hot and real crazy.

Right. Like, so the point is, is Josh, Josh is like, in that danger zone. He can live in the danger zone sometimes because he's going to make those plays. You know, you ask certain buddies are like, why do you keep putting up with that, that, that, that gal? Well, there's just something you don't know.

Just crazy enough. Yeah. Yeah. Where it doesn't tip the scale in either direction. It's perfectly bound. I could have explained this in 15 seconds flat, guys. I think people in the chat understand. Josh is, is that guy that, that straddles the line of the crazy hot scale.

And so when you get the, you know, the terrible pick where they send Servassier Dennis and Josh, all he has to do is fall out of the end zone. And this thing hasn't showed up for him in a while. What's happened the last like month of the season or since like Atlanta to me or like New England is not what we've seen the past year and a half, two years of football from him. He just throws the ball with two hands like into a crowd, dude. Just pass. We got to avoid that, brother.

And, you know, again, the missing throws like he missed two probable like touchdowns early in the game but the point is he he outplays himself he finds a way to make it happen and he does it with his legs and the whole thing so um the the end result is six fucking touchdowns and they turn the ball over three times on offense yeah so the defense has to be fixed and i think they combine what what both saying about the defense but you're saying about the offense is like you look at potential playoff matchups you know you run into a matchup with the colts you know for example right um you know the raven sneak in the way they can run the football If those teams are able to control possession and you keep Josh Allen off the field,

you know, with how bad the defense is, it could be a quick exit. Well, the problem is, and they are going to be combustible, Indy, Denver, you know, teams that can frustrate them by just doing what we've seen in spots where it's like, hey, your guys outside just don't scare us and we can man them up. Right. And, you know, we're going to try to rush smart and have control of the quarterback. But, like, in games like that, I kind of worry, especially to your point, Indy can run the fucking football.

For sure. Kansas City can't run the football. Kansas City can't run the football. They also don't have an answer for Kincaid if he ever gets back. So I do feel like as much as they've dominated that matchup, if they play again, I still like the bills, depending on where the game is. Looks like it would be in Buffalo. Or maybe we don't have to see it again, facts.

But yeah, there are some matchups that kind of worry me. Jags being won because they can really run the ball. They ran 49 times yesterday. What are they hiding? Bro, I've been telling you that. I've been telling you that. I'm joking. No, I'm joking.

There's no way the Jags beat the bills. There's no way the Jags beat the bills. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Before we move on from this, can we just say, like, are we worried? This was in the poll or in the chat.

Yeah. Should we be worried about the bucks? I just would like to, you know, give my two cents on this real quick. Not super worried about the bucks. Very worried about the bucks next week against the range. Rams. But just going forward, that's, that's, that's a scary matchup for anybody. I think the Bucks, they know that. But, you know, looking at the rest of the schedule, Arizona, Saints, Falcons,

I would be a little bit concerned about the Panthers. Like, you need to get your dick hard for that game if you're the Bucks because you cannot drop one of your two remaining games to the Panthers. And the Panthers, Chris is about to get into a huge saga about his, his sweet young prince, his lovely little boy, which I'm a big fan of them. I'm just saying the bucks are in a good spot from a schedule standpoint where they're getting healthier. They have two tough games here with the bills and the Rams, especially two away games. But then after that, they're in a good spot at the end of the year from the schedule

standpoint to clinch the NFC South and enter the playoffs kind of on a high note. So not super worried about the bucks. They just need to be absolutely ready to dominate the rest of their division opponents down the strike. That's so funny. I looked in the chat for a second. I saw Jags will beat the bills. The bills suck. I'm like, people are on drugs in this chat this morning.

Then it's Dr. Fax. Here's what I want to say about the bucks. Here's what I want to say about the Bucks. It's kind of become a thing. If the Bucks are at full strength, they're as good as most teams in the NFC, if not all of them. And they actually like a Bucks Rams game at full strength, I don't think is a blowout.

I think it's a good game. And I think we already saw Seattle. They put up 38 on Seattle. in Seattle and Nate's doing this because he just instinctively has to take the other side of everything. No, it's just the full strength, the full strength talk. Well, no, I mean, no one's saying they are, though. No, I know, I know. I know. I just like, I mean, I like, I like, you guys were on my ass last week about teams and it's just like, hey, I want. No, we really weren't. We actually Kigg-gloved you.

We Kig-loved you because you're going to come in here gloating about the Jags. And then, like, a fucking breakdown later we're going to be, you're going to be gloating about the Broncos beating the Chiefs. And I'm going to say, your opinion is null and void because you pick the Raiders to win the fucking division. That is true. That is true. I picked them to win the division. But what about all my other picks?

Like, you're only focusing on one thing. Sounds like what you're doing. And we gave you a pass last week. We walked in here and Kig-gloved you when we should have took you out back, bro. No. We should have took you out back. We actually, you had a meltdown in the group chat. We're back.

You had a meltdown in the group chat. We are back. And you got white guy mad at me and called me buddy. We are back. And we just stopped bothering you. We were like, all right, we'll just be quiet. Okay, buddy. You did buddy.

You buddyed me. I wasn't you. I was buddy and Bo. It's not the same thing. You're buddying people. You buddyed. Because, Bo, look, this is what Bo does. Whenever the.

lose, Bo acts like he's not a Bucks fan. Just like during this breakdown, you talk about them, and he acts like he's not associated with them. Can I be honest though? And then when they do win, he's like, yeah, I talk to this guy this week. He's great, we hang out, we live together, and it's all this stuff. Can I be honest with you, though? Yeah.

I'm a fan of the teams that I pick. Because I want to be good at my job. That's it. You know what I'm saying? Like, I do the same thing. I think there's a preconceived notion. No. You do this thing where when your team loses, you want other people going down with you.

Yes. So you try to find the teams that we like. You guys do that too. I don't think we do to the degree that you do. Yes, you too. Yeah, I'm looking at the moment. I'm completely on Christmas side here. Like I naturally like to take the opposite side of facts, but like that's wrong. See? Hey, buddy, you're wrong. All right? No, but he's right about the Jags this week. The Jags belt to ass on the fucking charges and we're going to give them their due in a second in about 45 minutes. We'll wait, you know, got to get to the flyovers. Got to get to the flyovers. You got to get to the flyovers. Oh, man.

But you do get a, you do get a, you do get your one-shining moment right now. I'll let you start the Broncos Chiefs. I was going to give it to read to start. No, give it to read. But you just have, we got something on the grill. I know exactly. We got something on the grill. I don't think, I think it might be problematic.

Oh. Oh, my. Oh, my God. Oh, no. Frog legs. Oh, my God. Oh, God. Oh, God.

Mahomes, Tamika Nose. Hey, hey, I don't want to hear any of these what-ifs and these playoff talks and all these things that have the chiefs in it all the time because they win the division and all this stuff. And guess what? They're fighting to be even a goddamn wild card. Look at that. Look at that. Mahom.

Look at that. Patrick, I don't feel this way. If you see this, he's Dr. Fax on all sorts. social channels. Man, man, man. It must feel good to be a Kansas City cheese fan right now. What it feels like to be a fan of other teams, you got to worry if your team is going to be in the postseason.

And then think about for these fans. They probably have their postseason, their Saturdays and Sundays already planned out that, hey, we're going to watch, we're going to watch K.C. win this week. We're going to watch them win this week. And if they don't make the playoffs, what are you guys going to do? Just go eat barbecue. the cold out there.

Remember when you were like, I'm not going to start the breakdown. But it's just, I'm happy, I'm happy for, I'm happy for reach, Steve. Do you both leave again?

I don't know. Last year you, last year you bow lived until, uh, we got your win total. Oh, you remember that.

Yeah, you, you, you, you, you hopped off the horse after they got to like seven and half wins or whatever it was. We got you to your destination.

But, but dude, dude, I got to say, I got to say, man, like, I still think,

think they're going to the playoffs because of their schedule and fPI agrees with me marginally but like you're you're right like they're in they're in trouble um and i think one of the things that's so concerning is i don't think my home's played well in this game which is one of the reasons why when i said to rsillo two weeks ago and of course you get aggregated by barstall so i got a bunch of 22 year old frat boys who haven't been watching football for more than 10 years arguing with me they're like yeah and i said can we like say it out loud that like if we're aggregating the best quarterback over the past few years because if we weren't doing that we just say it was drake may right now which i don't think anybody's ready to say he's the best quarterback on the planet um it would be josh and part of what's baked

into that is there have been a number of these kind of games that i've seen kansas city play where you know mohams is spectacular in the biggest moments but he can also kind of miss things like waywardly where like the way josh did it yesterday missing all those fucking balls i was like I need to make sure I come in today and highlight that so people don't say I'm biased where like most times we're like that's my home sometimes he misses two shots to start the game that could be touchdowns he's got to be better in those spots and I understand like why they they try to take the top off the defense early like I thought they might go heavy to try to force you know Denver to get heavy they they stayed light in a lot of spots and tried to throw the ball

over over their heads and they had their opportunities early and he missed them and he They were right take shots because when they get in the red zone, it's something interesting. This is something interesting. This is something interesting. I can get there. Vince Joseph has owned Andy Reid in the red zone since 2003 when he took over. One for four Sunday and three for 14 and three of 11 with Mahomes as as quarterback. They were bad in the red zone.

And, you know, that's a continued theme, dude. And I kind of wonder if it is. Like just shots in the dark, obviously having a lot of cover guys. You know, they do, they mix in some man. They play some match down there. Like, and you can see how that can kind of be advantageous to them, especially when it comes to the quarterback, scrambling, right? Because you're kind of playing zone.

You're kind of playing man. The way I understand it is a grunt defensive lineman. But also this. When Kansas City's out in the field, and this wasn't true maybe when Worthy was hurt last year, but they generally keep a fast guy. And they have a quarterback that can get him in the ball. and so you're always going to be worried about like getting beat over the top and so when you're out in the field they can do all this rPO shit they can manipulate underneath defenders when they get in the red zone it's kind of the great equalizer where like there's a lot of traffic and nobody's getting beat deep and i think vans has got them figured out pretty good like they were jumping the r pos they were jumping another thing is like mahomes on a couple instances and two of them it was smith i think that that that blitz before the half cowboy

where they're in the two minute drill it's third down they bring they bring pressure he's got Smith in the flat now the edge defender gets in the window but like Mahomes if he's not overthinking he just flips it underneath to Rishi Rice like and then

there was another one I feel like where Smith is in the flat and he just stared him down and waited for the cover three corner to pass the the slant and like once he got back out then he through it. It's like he's not confident in the, it's like he's forcing the ball to certain guys

and he's not confident in the guys that, you know, like for instance, Breschard Smith on those two plays. Right. And, and he wasn't right yesterday. So Denver deserves a lot of fucking credit the way they play defense. It puts a lot of pressure on them. They're down Pats or Tannan. They make them look like that. It's pretty fucking impressive. Past three games of Broncos without Pastertum and only allowed one passing touchdown still. Yeah. And that defense. And that was yesterday. That was Travis Kelsey. And that was a, and that was a, big boy shout out Travis Kelsey he caught that thing shedded whofonga ran to the end zone that was broke some records with that catch right yeah yeah yeah yeah 83 touchdowns for the most

touchdowns and kansas city chief franchise history which is wild hey what hey give your boy bo necks some love let's believe dude let's just bow leave a little bit my man i and he talk about guys who have the chief's number he um not including last year's week 18 he is and i'm going to do my own search of uh stats here but he is he doesn't have any turnovers um and he's got um he should have had two wins you know because that there was that uh block kick that's right um but dude i mean you saw him dropping balls he took all this everybody was after him in the uh in the in the In the media, he was just taking it on the chin, and he came out and he showed out. Troy Franklin down at the end to kick that field goal.

Finding Cortland Sutton, like, we need them to, you know, getting the ball to him. We got Evan Ingram. The biggest thing was that the first two drives, we only got six points, two field goals, but we weren't having those three and outs like we had the past. When you put pressure on them to where, like, all of a sudden, like, you come out down three nothing, they're trying to take top off the defense as they should have, as I mentioned. but then the second series you're down six nothing it kind of changes the way you go about things offensively it just just it's points on the board and the other thing bow didn't do is he

didn't make the big backbreaking mistake that that Patrick did down the red zone like that throw to me was like and there's been a couple this year with um you know devon lloyd uh pick six um he threw one a week later in the raiders game like right at a dude nassim pressure i feel like and it's like you know i know he makes mistakes in the pastes the pastes i'm sorry i'm past, but there's some, like, very, like, you didn't do due diligence kind of mistakes, like, where he's scrambling, assuming that the defender's going to come up and add to the rush, and he puts no air under that throw down the red zone. If he just lobs that ball, it's a touchdown.

It's a touchdown. It's like he threw it like he wasn't going to be there. And, you know, that's where I'm like, come on, man, like, you got to play a little bit better. He's the fucking, he's Patrick Mahomes. So I feel weird questioning him. But he's got to play better in these games. The margin for error is nothing now. And that's the difference is if Lowe doesn't turn it all over, your team can win.

I am, you know, being a Broncos fan, I'm terrified of this game coming up on Christmas. But the spot where we are at right now, I'm pretty happy. Top's in the AFC. It feels pretty good. Top of the league, right? It feels pretty good. They got the best record in the league right now. Yeah, they are.

Best team in the league, according to the wins and losses. I test not so much, but. We vibe. Men lie. Women lie. Numbers don't. Numbers don't. You know.

Dobbin's done for the year. It can be back to play. Sometimes, but not always. I know. You were going to say that. That's the reason why I said that. I know. You know, I hate that one.

But also the one score games, man, that's an obvious theme in this game that everybody's discussing is like, you know what the difference? You know what the difference? You know what the difference between the chiefs this year and last year is? Not much. Not much. Not much.

In fact, this year's team, I feel like might be a little bit better at their best. this year's Broncos team? This year's Chiefs team. Where's Chris Jones? They were 11 and 0 last year in one score games. They're only 5 this year.

Yeah, this year. It's crazy. And I feel like, you know, to your point, what you were kind of saying earlier, when I don't know, like, I don't know if this year's team is that much better. I don't think that this year's chief's team can survive poor play from Patrick Mahomes the same way that last year's chief team did at times.

That's where I get a little concerned here going down the stretch. It just doesn't feel like, kind of like opposite of the bears almost. Like they haven't really just won these games that you expect the chiefs under, you know, Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes to win at the end of the games. And you're kind of like, oh, shit, this team's human. This is kind of how a lot of other teams operate in these scenarios. And they better get that shit figured out quick, man, because that's really not who they are. And that's not how they win.

I don't know. But on the other hand of the coin, like I'm kind of contradicting myself off here immediately. Like they just have been there before. And you just get this sense that they're going to get it fucking figured out somehow. And I still kind of think that way. Like I'm still feeling like they're going to be a playoff team. Well, it's the same reason we doubt Sam Darnold. It's to say, you know, confirmation bias is real.

Like people act like it shouldn't exist. But like we give people that we know and trust more leeway in life. And they're a team that we're giving more leeway to them. Maybe we should at times because of what they've been able to do. And they've also proven a lot of people wrong over the last couple of years where they wrote them off and said they can't do this, they can't do that. We're giving them their due respect, but mathematically pretty soon it's going to be tough.

Cowboy, I got a dramatic read I want you to do. From one, Adam Troutman. If you're talking shit about Bownix Online, you're a coward, absolute coward. He blanks it out. We don't care what other people think. We know what we have in the building, and we know what he's made of,

and we don't really care what other people have to say. So Dragon Slayer 69, with his 7-Eleven slurpee in his mom's basement, I don't give a shit what he has to say, right? and Bo doesn't either. I was holding my breath that Travement was going to be talking about us or something

but he's talking about Dr. Fax promo code how about dudes going to back for their quarterbacks man like and it just goes to show

like how much they love this guy so like as imperfect as I think he is and as much work as he has to do developing we all would agree he would tell you that

but they fucking love the guy and he's a winner and they've been saying that all off season too all preseason and they're like Bo Bo Bo Bo like Cortland's been all, you know, supporting him the whole time. Like I mentioned the two drives to start the game.

The other huge thing that you love seeing a step taken is that third quarter touchdown drive. 11 plays, 89 yards coming right out the gates. Off that interception, you go up 13-6, and then you answer the Chiefs touchdown drive with a field goal. So do we blow leave around here? Fuck yeah, we do. I'll believe enough for all of us.

You should believe, bro. And if you don't, if you're scared, go to church. That's what Bo said. Do you hang out with Dragon Slayer 69? Doesn't he go to church, though? Dragon Slayer? So is he scared? No.

He goes to 7-11. Did he just call all Christians scared? That's crazy. What does that say really? I don't know, bro. And if you're scared, go to church. I don't know. We're on the way to church.

No, but that's a big win. And, you know, somebody just talking about Eric B. Enemy, okay? Every time I see Eric Biener me on the sideline at a bear's game, I think about the Chiefs. And I've talked about this before. Like a little theory for me is that they lost like five to seven percent of their efficiency when he left. Because he is known to be the guy that is on your ass the bad guy. You know what I'm saying? Good cop, bad cop.

Like if Andy's the good cop, he's the bad cop. and he's the guy who was on the details and everything. And so, you know, Charlie just asked, should they bring Eric B. Enemy back next year? I mean, I don't know if you'd be willing to, but like, I think, oh, but he might like where his life is at. He might like living in Chicago. He might think that, you know,

it's a pretty good gig working under Ben Johnson, or maybe this is going to elevate him. Or maybe Eric Bienerney thinks, hey, all those years in Kansas City, nobody ever thought it was about me, you know? Everybody thought it was about everything else, and they kind of took me for granted, not the people in the building, but everybody. I do think you see some of that lack of attention detail with the chiefs. There's just that little, like, what is it?

That jean-se-cois, Bo. Geneseecois. You know what I'm saying? I like that. They're missing that. That's classy. But they've been missing it. Let's do a little schedule look forward to the chiefs.

Next week, week 12, they've got the Colts. Then they go to Dallas on Thanksgiving. Texans, Chargers, at the Titans, Broncos in week 17, Raiders, week 18. Are we, does this, you're in the Chiefs building? Well, are you nervous for the Chiefs on any, you know, on the schedule the rest of the way? Yeah, for sure. I think teams have to be, I mean, you're still playing. Not every team is going to make that offense look the way they look yesterday.

You guys happen to have a really, it's a tough matchup. It came down to a kick last year. You know, I know that the Mahomes is 13 or 14 and 2 or whatever. against the Broncos. But like as of late, that's like seeing those stats. Like as a franchise, they never lose on Thursday. And the last one was like a, you know, a week ago or 20 years ago. Go ahead.

No, I was going to say it's probably different in that building now going from always knowing you're going to make the playoffs to everyone in that building being like one game at a time. Yeah. Well, like it's just one game at a time. Well, you have to like that. Right? You can't look ahead.

You don't like that as players. Like, I mean, it brought, not if you're used to, not if you're used to the other way. Yeah, exactly. Like, it definitely feels good. If you know what you have to do, like, this is our mission for this week. We'll see. We've got to lock it on. But it's more, it's like, I feel like locker rooms are led by the vets most time.

And it's just like for a vet, knowing you're going to make the playoffs. It makes it makes come to work. It makes being a role model. It makes everything a lot easier versus like Chris is saying, if you're used to that and then you're not used to it. and you have to come in and like, not fake energy, just be like, damn, we have to have this, this, this, this, this, all this stuff happened, and we still got to win for us to maybe get in. Like, you start doing all these calculations

and seeing on these media shows being like, oh, you have a 2% chance to win if they end up beating this team. Well, you start looking at other games too on Sunday. You start peeking at the dam. The last thing, third and 10 with four minutes to go, this is the last time you were going to have the ball. They go three verticals, no hot. Denver's bringing Blitz.

Like, that's just very unlike Kansas City. Bad ball. Vance Joseph has him in a pretzel. And, you know, it's high time we're like, hey, dude, I know you guys are like Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid and Travis Kelsey, but like. That was the sack. And I think most of the league is kind of catching up to this is like, what have you done for me lately?

Right. You know, like, and I know it's unfair because they were just in the Super Bowl and they were like 15 and 2 or whatever it was. But the way they look right now, they look a lot more human. and I think teams are playing them that way. Including bringing blitz in key spots in the game. Well, that play you're just talking about, Jekwon McMullen.

McMillan. Right off the edge. And that's probably about the fourth or fifth time this season that in a big key spot, either right at the end of the game or to stop a drive, he's come off the edge and stop it up. Good for Vance Joseph. At one point, he was 70 points,

and people were like, this guy's the worst coach. He has turned his deal around like 180 degrees, Now it helps a lot having the players he's got, but he's doing the damn thing. But yeah, he's putting him in the spots. And think of his, like where he came from, right? He was the Broncos head coach, goes elsewhere and makes it back up to, you know, get head coaching interviews again. And then he goes back to the same team that he was head coach on with players that he was

head coaching with still in the building. And now he's the defensive coordinator. And he's no issues working with Sean Payton, no problem. It's awesome. And the Broncos, I mean, we talked about it before. for this fourth quarter stuff, I really feel like them playing and being in Denver and having a train and practice in higher elevation.

I think that really, especially getting longer, like deeper into the season, I think that definitely plays a factor. I think like you don't really think about it. But when you get to the fourth quarter of these games, like all these guys' bodies are slowly deteriorating throughout the season. And just to think about Denver,

after every game, whether it's home or away, they're still in that high elevation training and getting their bodies right. I think it definitely is something to keep looking at. And the fact that they're playing so phenomenal in the fourth quarter, it's hard to think that that's not helping out a little. Yeah, no, I would agree. I would agree. They're in great condition. They also practice really hard. Yeah. Like, Sean Payton's known for an ass kicking camp and their team's just more physical and hardened. Like in an NFL like today where, you know, I think there's something too, like the, the callusing of the body.

If you can do that to a degree that you don't get guys hurt or worn out, like guys are used to getting hit. Like, they're used to hitting people. And in today's NFL, there's just more and more of these teams that I hear about like guys barely practice. And I don't mean to be a hater

because like I never got the days off so I'm kind of a hater. But we see the results of it, dude. Like, I mean, we're seeing way more mishapleing. I think stuff that like, it's a luxury for teams to or a coach to be like, you know what? We don't got to have pads.

this week. But when you start seeing guys, it's not forgetting how to tackle, but it's just like if you're not really conditioning your body the right way throughout the season to make those tackles, to get that shoulder in there or whatever it is. Then you kind of got a dip into the depth bag more than you ever had to. I feel like there's so many injuries. And again, it's like the, we always talk about the third, fourth corner, the third linebacker that gets your last man, you know, so. All right. Well, last thing on Bo, uh, not including. including last year's week 18 game. He's 68.7% for 510 yards, two touchdowns, no picks against Steve Spagnullough and the Chiefs. I like it. I like it a lot. Shout out Frank Crum.

That's a really big feather in his cap. They also have very good offensive line, you know, not taking it. But like why that matchup works is like also they're better up front than those guys. Yeah. And I think that shows. And that's down, still down our left guard shout out of Ben Powers. Yeah, no question. I got to get them back. Yeah. after this by week it was a big play last night they had to get the guy's shoe on yeah remember that yeah i was like man fuck dude that's that looks so stressful i don't think anybody understands how stressful that is dreams you have you know where you're like yeah get ready for a game and you can't find your cleats or something like that play over i'm gonna get it done

so we do flyovers it's time for the wild card the swift these is going to be crazy i i won't notice a difference i i also think the swift thing has kind of been like less of a big thing this year yeah because they're not winning yeah she's crazy she's still at the games isn't she isn't it crazy how mad people get at taylor swift but like it's really about what the cameraman decides to do that's some wild shit some producer in the back she's been behind the screen it's not in her post pre-post game my man's so some men got to practice like y'all are disrespectful if y'all I don't get Trevor Lawrence out of here. Why?

Oh, well, he's still in there? Because he's been cooked so many times that he fell through the... He fell through like an old French fry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just hanging out down at the bottom of the grill. Waboring the grill. Yeah. So anyways...

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Don't chase, but make it legendary. Okay. Okay. Broncos are nine and two, okay. Okay. All right, so we're going to go to the wild card picture. We're going to start with the NFC. Wow, what's wrong?

You want to get to the AFC? No, we're going to lead up to it. You know I thought about this last night. We had a meeting about it and that you would be upset that we didn't get to the AFC first. Nope. Nope. I like the build up. I like the build up.

Yeah. But there's a reason. We're trying to make it a war of attrition. Yeah. Try to wear you down first. Yeah, we're trying to wear you down. Make it real tired, but it gets to the jack and bring out. There's only so many times like you can hear Duval screamed in your ears.

Well, no, I just, when we, when we write the rundown, these are the things I take into a account. Okay, we're going to get a lot of Nate in the Chiefs thing because he was right. And then and then we're going to go straight into Jags and Steelers, which are both Nate breakdowns. We're going to have like an hour and eight in a row. You know, so we're just trying to load manage. I love it. I love it.

Trying to load manage one of our best players. I love it. Let's talk about this fucking game. Trade McBride, the thug. You see that penalty he got? No, what did he do? Treyquan? Bro, they gave Treyquan the craziest penalty, bro.

They gave him an offensive. Oh, no, yeah. They gave him a taunting penalty, and I think that they thought he was pulling the gun out of his holster and going like that. Oh, he was just doing the first down. He was just doing a simple first down, and the way there's a ref doing a penalty,

it was just so funny because, like, I don't know if the ref should know people's, like, players' personalities, but it's just like, bro, that's not a gun. Oh, that's not a gun at all. At all. And it wasn't even malicious. It wasn't that a player.

And then look at the ref. He's like ready to grab that flag. He's like, on the celebrate? That's crazy, dude. He took a step, he took three steps down the field. He gets tackled, three steps down the field to get away from the players and the ref. Like, what is this? You have a careful with the hand pistol, man.

Yeah, I know. That's what I'm saying. The refreft must have the woke mind virus. Something, bro. Not a 2A supporter. Was it? So, but McBride's a beast. And this was an over.

I just want to say, very happy about the over in this game. Stanford, Steve, head to head. We'll see you, see you later this week, Steve. But what did you see in the Purdy return, dude? I was pretty impressed by Purdy. You know, he had that foot injury that has kept him sidelined for a while. 19 for 26, 200 yards, three touchdowns.

You know, a lot of been made about how well Mack Jones has played. And, you know, is he kind of the guy in the future there? I think Brock Purdy kind of silenced some of those questions with this game. And then just on the other side of the ball, just hear me out on the stateline real quick. 47 attempts, or sorry, 47 completions, 57 attempts, 452 yards, two touchdowns, two interceptions for Jacoby VerSat. And correct me if I'm wrong, but that was like an all-time completion record, right? Record. That is, I bet you this dude, his arm probably felt like it was going to fall off after that game.

Jacoby Versat. So I got to give them a shout out there. But it feels a little bit like the 49ers are getting healthier and rounding into form. Admittedly, I didn't watch this game as closely as I wanted to because I was more enthralled with others in the slate. Noel, you want to help me out a little bit? You're going to tap you in on this one, do a little bit of this.

What do you say? Deadly. That's your name. No, I just kind of peaked to the Niners' offense, but with Purdy being back, I agree. I thought drop back, play action, passing game looked pretty good. he and Kittle picked right back up where they left off.

Kittle caught all six of his targets. Two tuds, 11 yards per receptions. They worked that intermediate level really well. You saw the Shanahan screen game going with Kittles, CMC with some chunks in there. And honestly, the Niners at times was really gashing this Cardinals defense between the tackles. The Niners run game has been a little up and down this season.

So to see them put that together against what's been a solid Cardinals defense, this season. It kind of looked like the Niners' offense as we know it with with Purdyback. So I thought he played well overall. A couple turnover worthy plays, a couple balls he put it in harm's way, but I think he was just kind of big play hunting. Way more good than bad on this tape from him.

And the mobility was certainly an upgrade over what they've had with Mac Jones. It's interesting to think about what their actual ceiling is with the defense the way it is. Well, that's exactly it. You can always match possession for possession. Right. I was going to the offense looked. It's just it's really hard to believe in this team down the stretch,

knowing the limitations of the defense. So anyways, good win for the Niners out in the desert. Let's pull up the NFC wild card as we kind of contextualize all these teams here. So five spot is the Seahawks, followed by the Packers and the 49ers there in the playoffs that the season ended today. The Lions at six and four, the Panthers at six and five, Vikings at 4 and 6 are teams 8, 9, and 10. So what's the Niners schedule look like going forward? Nineers have, and this is, this is interesting because you've got the Panthers. Oh, this is going to be a good one, dude.

It's going to come down to, these guys might have a shot. Panthers, Browns, Titans, Colts, Bears, Seahawks. Niners Panthers is such a quarterback narrative game. It is such a quarterback narrative. And here's the narrative. I want to push. The best one might be in Carolina. Let's find out my

short print. You know, they said it's a week to week league, man. You know, last week he was, he lost the Saints. The next week, he's breaking Cam Newton's records, you know? All right, so that's going to be a good game. That really will be a good game. No doubt.

It's a Christian McCaffrey revenge game. Good call. You know, we don't really, I don't know if he's really mad at Carolina. It's funny because like, probably like, oh, I'll take it easy. It's like Rams fans, where they're like, it's the Christian McAfrey, thank you, yeah, they're like, Rams fans are always like,

oh, you hate us. I'm like, not at all, dude. Do you see what happened to me after I left? It was like, actually, like, it got better. For a lot of players, like, you're not mad at your old team, especially not him. No. So anyways,

Christian McCaffrey Bowl. We'll see. All right, so we've got, We have the Packers next, don't we? Packers' Giants. Now, Nate, I know you watch this game. I thought. Such a Jamest game.

It's such a Jamis game. I literally, I was about to text the group chat, that final drive. I hate to say it, but I was like, the Jamest pick is coming. Like, it's just, it's coming. And it happened. And it happened. We've all seen this movie. We've all seen this movie.

And I don't know what it is about Javis. It's just he plays well. I think he's a great, what? He's a great, great at getting guys where he's a true quarterback. He's a real quarterback, I feel like. And I feel like the Giants do have a better chance with him the way that looked versus having Russ out there. So I think they have stuff to build off of.

I think Kafka should feel decently well. He raises the ceiling. Yeah. relative to what Russ does at this point. But he also lowers... I don't know if he lowers the floor. It's debatable who's got the lower floor at this stage. At the very least, I feel like as a fan, as a fan,

if you hear James Winston has started, if you guys don't have Jackson Dart, I feel like you at least go to the stadium, feeling like, hey, we have a chance. Dude, he breathes a lot of excitement into the team. It's interim head coach week. No wonder it's a battle. And on top of it, like, you know, you've been waiting as the interim head coach for, you know, three months of the season and probably longer, not saying that he hated dayball, but like maybe there were some things that he's like, I'd like do this differently.

Like I can't wait. If I ever got an opportunity, we're going to do this. So you empty the clip the first week and you're going to be better off. And I think also like he's a veteran quarterback. So, you know, guys look up to him. James is a legend. Whether you say he's like he's a, he's, you know, a great player or not. Like he's a fucking legend.

Like dudes, young dudes are like excited James is playing quarterback. Yeah. He's so fun to play with, dude. That's like probably one of my favorite teammates of all time. And I had him and Fitz, like during Fitz Magic era are the same,

you know, quarterback. Like they were kind of like trading off starting games and stuff like that. And that was something I was just so privileged to be a part of, man, because you never knew what the fuck was going to happen on the field from either of those guys. And it was incredible. Dude,

that's some great chaos that you've been around. from the Packer's standpoint, I thought this was a this is a mental toughness performance from the Packers offense and I think from Jordan Love where last week I had complaints about, I've had complaints about the way the offense is run. The quarterback took a lot of negative heat last week, took a lot of heat last week from people on TV and it's TV so people are always going to, they're going to put a little

extra mustard on it. But a lot of people were like, yeah, he's just, he's just a bad quarterback. Like, as if you kind of ignore the top end stuff that we've seen from the guy, I thought he was fucking fantastic yesterday considering all the drops he had to work through. Not Big Romeo's best day at the office. You know, you also think about him coming back in the game, Malik Willis being in the game, down seven nothing, having to convert on third and eight, Nate, like just a big drive from him. He's such a he's got to be such a popular player in that locker room and in the in the

fan base where it's like every time his number is called to your point he makes things happen. So that was big and it was also like a next man up kind of game in this perspective from this perspective number one I think Christian Watson needs to be like one of their guys for sure. I know he's

always kind of been a guy they've wanted to get the football get the football too but in a situation where they've had to go without Jaden Reed this year you know you've missed wicks at times you you're now missing your your best receiver in tucker craft i know he's a tight end but he's kind of your best player um you need a guy and i said this yesterday watching the game that you can throw the ball up to and take advantage of fucking jordan loves arm strength that you can reliably throw the football too deep contested catches and he made

one of the biggest contested catches of the day late to put them up i think in the game so that you know that was that that that those are the moments where you're like you want to see Christian Watson come on. Also, he talked about that slot fade after the game. He said, you know, he waited for the man look. They finally got it. And so, you know, the confidence to go to it, he said they ran it like four times hoping for the man look.

You know, they've got him in mind, which is a start. I think he needs to be heavily featured in this offense going forward. You got to pivot. You got to take advantage of what your strengths are. And you have a quarterback with a big, strong arm. And I think taking the shots will help. and taking him at this guy. And Savianne Williams, enormous catch on third and ten at the end of the game. Enormous catch. You know, Matt LaFleur talked about it after the game. He was in a fucking

walking boot the morning of the game. Just a tough guy. He raves about him. He's kind of been there do it all guy. I think he's got a factor in the offense, continue to factor in the offense. He's just a big athletic body. And coming out of college, he was supposed to be the contested catch guy. This could be, you know, hopefully a spark that, ignites for this team and they say, hey, we need to get the vertical element going and play with a little bit more pace. That's the thing I've been wanting them to do.

Also, backup running back, Wilson steps up with Josh, with Josh Jacobs down. That's big shit, dude. So a next man up type of game from the Packers. And when you look around the NFC at the other teams, the way they're winning and losing games, beggars can't be choosers,

bro. You're telling me this team can't beat Detroit the next time they play them. I'm not saying I'm picking it one way another but like for all the flaws they have look around and what i like to see i like to see they gave my my guy bow melting like a little end around or something he was incorporated in the offense a little bit he's a guy that feel like we've seen him a lot in the offense in the past year and then he kind of dropped off to just being kind of like special teams reps i don't know if this means he'll get more but i was happy to see him get in and i think he had a good little chunk yardage play a little chunk

But they definitely need all the help they can in that receiver room and the playmaker-wise. So hopefully they'll figure it out. And then to piggyback, well, if you said, I just want to glaze Malik Willis a little bit more because as we see across the league, no, no, no pause. You got to glaze guys when you're supposed to. What's glazing? What is glazing? Just giving props.

But where does that come from? Giving props. What does that come from from a turn of phrase standpoint? I don't, I don't, give me the etymology of the term, the glaze, using the sense. Glaze it, man. Is it glazed donuts?

Yeah. Like, glazed. I thought you're, are you doing a turkey? Like glazed donuts, like you're giving them some sweetness. Some white. Sweetness. All right, next.

Like you're getting down on your knee, and you're giving them some sweetness. We always talk about, and we see across the league, when you see backup quarterback go in, especially during the game, the drop-off that happens to that team. And like Chris has said,

But anytime Malik Willis gets in, he just seems like he's ready to play. He's ready to win right away, right in that moment. And I feel like that's a luxury to have. And it's also something that, hey, if the Green Bay, if they need him in the time of need, they won't be worried. And I don't see that offense having to change. And I think that was a good little preview of even having that happen. So they had to throw him in to see that.

And I think that's just something to look forward for the end of the year. Jaden Reed comes back. You are a, you are a spread them out and run into light boxes and throw the ball around the fucking yard team. That would be, that would be fun. Now, he's supposed to come back hopefully for the Detroit game or, you know, the Chicago game. Might be the one piece for them. He is, bro. He has a lot of this stuff, and I hate to like every time, like, they don't look good offensively.

I don't love the way they call games sometimes. But I'm talking about like the guy underneath that can really run short area routes and it's not a gadget guy like Savion Williams or it's not some big body lumbering body like Christian Watson or Romeo Dobbs intermediate guy who's going to bend comebacks like versus, you know, zone slip behind second level defenders. Like you need the guy that can run a pivot with the fucking thing on the line or like a guy that's going to run a drag and just leave somebody in the dust or guy you can send in motion like a Debo Samuel. We talk about that like the way he he he, they use. used him at his best, like one of those gadget guys that you're like 11's over here. Like that's the kind of guy he can be for them. So they miss him. So anyways, we'll get to the next. Oh, wait, real quick. Shout out to Micah. Stopping that hell Mary. Yeah, good. Not even giving it a chance. I'm not going to lie. I did want to see that ball go up just to see what will

happen just because it's James. But to get that, that to end the game on the sack, like that has to feel good. Hell yeah, Numbies, man. It's good to get your numbers, bro, especially when you probably feel like you've been rushing your ass off all game and everybody's looking at you and saying why don't you have a sack it's good to get the freebies okay the next one you know panthers falcons man um i got to be honest like i had my uh my secretary clear my schedule tomorrow so i can really dig into this game and watch the short prints make all the throws i said hey i said brook clear the schedule i said i need it looks like i'm going to need all to watch 450 yards of short king prowess,

breaking Cam Newton's record for, it's funny, people want to hate on him and Cam Newton. People just hate on quarterbacks so bad. I saw people after that say, oh, it's just a Cam Newton record. He doesn't throw the ball anyways. You stupid motherfucker, it's 450 yards. You know, like, and if you're going to say anything about Bryce's performance, like, I know he's been up and down, but I still maintain that,

if you can protect the guy and you have guys outside that can win, which are big ifs in the NFL, he makes the throws that a lot of guys miss. We've talked about it today, even some of the best players. His off-target ball percentage has to be lower than other dudes. I'm clinging to this deal. This is a big win for them, obviously, stay alive.

And for Atlanta, Michael Pennix, out for the season possibly with a knee injury. So with all the injuries he's had, you certainly feel for him. Supercut stocks going up. That sucks. Supercut? Yeah.

Why? Because Kurt Cousin's back, right? Wally, dude. Selling haircuts? He's selling haircuts? No, that's where he goes to get his haircut, right? Oh, yeah. He's definitely like a sports clips kind of guy.

ACL injury, partial tear. Isn't that, like, not even to joke. Isn't that, like, five or six? Five season and injuries eight years. Yeah. Say it again? Like five season in eight years. That's tough, man.

And you can see it where he, like, one of the things I have not loved about Pennix is his escapeability. You know, like, he is not exactly like a guy who can get creative off platform. You know what I'm saying? With every injury, you figure it's harder and harder. No doubt. Go ahead, Reed. What were you going to say?

Sorry. 2018, torn ACL, 2019, and season-ending soldier surgery, 2020, torn ACL, and then this season, likely another season-ending knee injury. So not even trying to, like, joke. like or like just being serious is thinking about it like tenure ACL in 2018 is probably a lot different in a sense like medically wise coming back do you think it's like do you think that in seven years they've made big advancements possibly that's what I'm like just seeing how fast some of these guys do be coming back from some of these major injuries is just like I'm not

qualified to say for sure me either like I just wonder like what's different what's going on differently or is it a form of rehab or prehab that's going on nowadays versus back in the days when guys got hurt that's i don't know man making like giving these chances given these guys a chance to come back as quick as they are as some of them like even seeing erin rogers like being back out there and some of these guys is just like damn like you just got hurt dude like you just had a major injury in your back so it's just interesting and hopefully hopefully he can get back and get back out there because he is a

he's a good young player and it just live arm he was playing well up until the up until his injury yesterday let's have a short round of applause for for Bryce it was awesome man they beat the blitz that was great I said on Friday coming to the game he was 57.3

rating versus the blitz this season that was like 36th in the league among qualifying QBs 110.9 rating against the blitz yesterday is that the cokehead difference? Coker? I think it is.

It's a big part of the pressure designs. Yeah, dude. It's going crazy. Yep. But how do we feel about the Panthers going forward here? Because I don't really... They're hit or miss, dude. They're one of the weirdest teams in the NFL.

And this is one of the weirdest matchups in the NFL. What can you glean from a... And after I just glazed the, you know, Bryce, what can you really learn from an Atlanta-Carolina game? Like, I don't know. because the last one, it was 30-0-0-0 Panthers, and they got out-gained. Atlanta was better on third down.

Like, it was crazy. They ran the ball like crazy. They ran the ball. Yesterday they didn't. Yeah. So you look at the Panthers schedule going forward, and you're just like, I don't know. No, the schedule gets tough.

That's what I'm saying. They go at San Francisco, home against the Rams. They get a buy week in week 14. Then they go to New Orleans, week 15 finished with a Seahawks sandwich in between the Buccaneers. Buccaneers, Seahawks, Buccaneers. The Panthers have a better record than the Kansas City cheese. Which is wild, dude.

It's correct. Wait, wait, that win total. Oh, someone won. Their win total was five and a half, wasn't it? Yeah. Shout out to Darren Bates. Hey, whoever, hey, if you had the Panthers win total at the beginning of the year, which is probably crazy odds, you are probably, you hit that yesterday.

Yeah, that's an easy one. Week 11. That's dope. Week 11, you hit your win total. It's week 11 and you're getting that payout right now. That's an easy one. We got to move on the next one just for the sake of time. But shout out to all the thurs.

Ah! Look at that score. Oh, look at it. Duval! Yeah, mute it, Bo. There we go. Mute up. You got the floor.

You have the floor. Mute up, Bo. Continue. Belt to ask. If you're a Herbert, you're a Josh Herbert fan. Josh Herbert. Look at whatever is Justin Herbert, whatever his name is. We don't even respect you.

The worst positive. That's a royal week. Look at his, look at, he had the worst statistical game ever of his career. 10 for 18. Wonder why that happened. Because Jack's defense, we was on point and their O line sucks. They're hurt. It's all good.

But still, we have to go out there and make the plays, and we did. You did. You did. We wanted all three phases. We won in the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball. The Jags look good. If the Jazz could play like this, man, we're playing like this. And we have Jacobi Myers, yes.

We have Jacobi Myers, yes. We got Parker Washington, yes. We have a bunch of guys that if you're not a Jags fan like me, you really don't know who the hell they are. But we won this game 35 to 6. If you can't be happy about that, it's just like, what's happening? Are some of the homies not happy? I just think, like, people, if you just don't,

if you don't watch the Jags every other week, it's like, what are they doing? And, you know, they have Trevor. I think that's if you watch the Jags. I've had it too. We've had Trevor on a stake. But, bro, if we win games like this, like, it's all good.

Dude, if you can hold teams the 4-15 on third down and 2.6 yards per carry and 45 plays of offense. Six points. On the possession in the second half. In the time of possession, the charges. The game. This is legit.

And this is why I think Harbaugh fuck this up. 14-6 They got the ball before the half And I have one eye on the game And I can tell this is going bad Like I'm like, okay, Vegas new Got it. Sometimes you're just

You're just like, oh, yep, yep, Vegas outsmarted most people. But like, it was time to go Because like the next time I get the ball back It's 216

It's the third quarter. It's like what, seven, eight minutes to go In third quarter or something like that And next time they get the ball after that There's 11 minutes ago in the fourth quarter, 28 to 6. It was brutal. It was so bad that Trevor Penning was out there.

And Trey Lance got some snaps. Trevor Penning reps are bad. And then the big ticket got benched my dog big ticket before the half. Harbaugh was just on a rampage supposedly. And there were some bad reps, dude. It was like Big Ticket was tired. It was like dudes were tired out there. And maybe they were looking ahead of the by week

because I got to say for a Harbaugh team that's supposed to hang their hat on toughness, that was one of the softest games that I've seen a Harbaugh team play. Hey, but to your point, when you got the guys down and you do up front, it kind of makes the passing game struggles explainable. The thing that sucks for me

watching this game is, they ran split zone and fucking power and inside zone like right down their throats. I mean, and there was a play down in the goal line where one of the tight ends, the tight ends did a great job blocking. He took Bud Dupree

and like and put him like two feet into the ground. Yep. It was crazy the way he. And they were just like de-cleaders left and right, 49 rushing plays. Let me tell you this though. We have to stick to that. Like I don't, this is the one thing that gets me upset about the Jags.

They get you excited. They start throwing the ball. Bro, they show you the run game. They show you what Indian can do. And then we got Basial Tutin, you got this young stud who's just running like a pinball. like through the middle of defenses, but we do good, we show it,

and then we just want to start throwing the ball and let Trevor control the game. And it's just like, bro, we need to let our running offense control the game and then get Trevor in situations so he can maybe sit back there, have some time to make plays because him and Jacoby Myers is looking like it's going to be something. If they're going to get some weeks under their belts of practice,

but I like the fact that he's throwing the ball of these guys and everyone's catching the ball. Jacoby Myers is catching the ball in traffic, these so-called hospital balls that we think, he's catching them and he's not getting hit. So it's one of those things that it's good to see. And obviously, I'm excited. I didn't think we will win like this,

but putting the belt to ass to the chargers is definitely fun. That's the kind of win. Max, I got a fun stat for you. Yeah, go ahead. Because I got to use the bathroom. You guys can. I got a fun staff for you. Did you know that, okay, you make a lot about the,

you know, the two brothers and how the football guys don't allow them. in the same week. Here's something interesting for you, Dr. Fax. I don't know if you knew this. The Jags have given Jim 29 points and John 37 points, the two Harbaugh brothers, their two biggest, their two worst NFL margins of defeat.

Yesterday for Jim, obviously, you've been, you know, talking about. And in 2017 for John, which is 44-7, drubbing by the Jags. And then a lot of people don't know, Justin Herbert's brother,

is on the Jags. He's a tight end. Now he has a little bit of bragging rights to for Thanksgiving coming up this month to be like, hey, we got the win this year. Not only did we get the win, we beat that ass, bro. His brother had this sit, bro. Like, Trey Lance played in this game, like played significant. Now, I wouldn't say significant minutes, but he got a few drives, right? Yeah, this was a shit popping. This was probably the biggest surprise of me for the entire weekend. And congrats, dude. And then can't go without saying. Shout out to Josh Heinz Allen for breaking the Jags sack record from Brackens.

Yep. Yeah, taking that away from. How many sacks? I'm kind of surprised that Nate's working today. I thought he'd get a victory Monday with the rest of the boys. Boe said he's surprised I'm working today. He thought I would have got a victory Monday. Yeah, victory Monday.

No, but I'm excited. He's jacks. Josh have now. He is 56. 50 on the Jags. 56, yep. So he's the leading Jagsacker of all time. Yep.

That's cool. It's lit. Good for him. That's super lit. Everything he's gone through. Name changes. Yeah. I can't believe he had to go through that.

You get to league in your superstar and you're like, fuck, dude. Keep mixing me up with, or my fans be like, oh, imagine people be like, oh, I order to Josh Allen. jersey be like oh let me see it and they put it yeah josh allen on the bill probably happened a lot yeah probably a lot yeah but shout out to the jaggs um and also Trevor lawrence who this is the way you won it after jaggs when you barely talk about him right like that's that's kind of the team there again yes uh pretty good in the middle of field yeah that's that's a good thing and i think that's is jacobi it's confidence too man i just feel like it has to maybe not your personal confidence but just seeing guys drop passes, like can't feel good for a quarterback on that.

I know, but I also think it's the run game is cooking to the point where we said it'd be tough in the middle of the field for him. Like when you can start putting those backers in a blender with the run game with all the pullers, with the motions and stuff, like all of a sudden then you kind of can kind of drop stuff right behind them in zones. And I just figured it was one of those games from looking at it, the passing chart and watching him. Every time I looked up at the screen, he was completing something in the middle of field.

Oh, let's bring up, let's bring up, who do Jags have less left? We should. We should. I know how you're looking around like, like, like, Oh, no. Do for all these other teams. Oh, no. Look at all the other things.

We just get. I think, uh, for all the other team. They're playing in Arizona. Okay. That smells like a loss to me. Jacoby Presets heating up. They're playing at Tennessee. It's an automatic win.

Versan, verse Indy. That's a loss. Tough one for you, facts. Uh, versus New York. I'm going to win that game. I'm going to be at that game. that December 7th game we're going to win that game don't worry don't worry even if I got to run in the field I see three and four yeah you guys see that but it's all good it doesn't matter what you guys

see the two Titans games are nice and then you know the Cardinals two Titans games are nice most importantly what I see is if they make the play else the first round exit who they play in the first round who doesn't matter guys because that's why right In time. Let me see. Let me see that. Right. For Travis Hunter's return.

Everyone's not going to be. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. When we get that, when we're locking up all your number one. Man, that's going to be crazy. Are you going to throw him another slant? Facts, if the season ended right now, the Jaguars would play the Patriots, run one. No. So you might.

Oh, you might. Hey, you got, hey, bro, you got a ride or die with your team, bro. You got a rider die with your team. Oh, watch me. When we get to that, I'll be like, I played for the Paciots. nature of stuff. Here we go. Tats Nation.

Oh, man. Would that be free? The gangs are going to drop a game against Tennessee to get the Chiefs in. It'll be so perfect. Oh, that last one is like, that would be so great. But here's the funny thing. Doevo.

It's going to be so great because the Chiefs, there's no way they're going to run the table. The Chiefs. Kansas City is no way they're going to run. I kind of like that. They're not going to. We need to stick with that. They're not going to run the tables.

And it's just going to be great. Mika no, Joe. They're now the Chiefs. There's going to be no reason to ask for the Jags. That's the way it should be. And they're going to. It's going to be so great. But hold on a minute, player.

Hold on a minute, brother. You should start saying Chiefs, Chiefs. The Chiefs. Because you don't say thieves. Thieves. You say thieves. The Chiefs. They're stealing games.

James. Yeah. Chiefs kingdom. Mischievous, the Chiefs. Yo, if we start the thing right here? Damn, what is? Off the chain, dude. We are really changing the culture.

And then, you know, oh. Changing the dictionary, if you ask me. But yeah, what's up, Jack? The fuck does Websters know. Man, you know, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, he's probably having a terrible time his first year in jail, man. The Chiefs fan. Like, think about it.

Chiefs a hollick. Chiefs a hollick. Chiefs a hollick. Like, you got to have a husher. You got a hush. You can at least you could be in there. You're probably betting. You're probably betting your commissary to win.

And then the Chiefs are just fucking shit week this year. You know who I, you know who I hopes having a shitty time in jail? Who is that Jack Doherty guy. I tweeted about him yesterday. Bro, I don't have. You have the epitome? If you're a white dad, you're like, hey, you're not going to. Dude, I swear to you.

I will fucking disown you. I literally think of my. If my son became Jack Dordy. This is Chris's worst. One way ticket to North Carolina. Korea. This is Chris's worst nightmare for like his son, if his son, like, acting like this or even, like, thought about it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. And I'm not into corporal punishment, but I will wait to my son's 18 to whoop his ass if he becomes Jack Doherty. I will take, I will take human growth hormone to be able to kick my son's ass if my son became Jack Doherty.

Oh, man. And same thing for his security guards, bro. There were people after I tweeted this. They were like, how do you know who Jack Dordy is? I'm like, unfortunately, I have the internet. And like, you know, my timeline includes him sometimes. But, man, I hope they're familiar with his work in there, was my comment on it. There was a video after yesterday after he was arrested. Someone made a video of all the times that Jack Dordy got slapped.

It needs to happen more. It needs to be longer. Same with his security. people dude those are who are really i want to see those guys get touched up pretty good imagine making a living and being yeah who do you work for this little fucking this little lepricon that rage-based people anyways we'll get to the next thing i really i am the old man yelling the cloud he is he he he encapsulates no what happened jane franklin to virginia attack. Fuck me. Oh my God. We got to, we got to win it this year. We got to win it this year.

They're about to take all our recruits. Like, what the fuck? Like, what the fuck, bro? Like, get out of here. Get out of here, dude. Man, we have to win. How can we ruin this for him and them? We just have to make sure that we win this year. Imagine he tried to show up to the games or something can he do that like when yeah come on can you just show up and like be supportive of the team this year what do you mean yeah do that shit this year he can't give them light he can't help him he can't help him all right right you can't do that shit next thing we'll get the next thing my dealer's bangles new oh yeah bro the best thing ever is the best thing ever is honestly is jimar chase like lying through his

teeth when they're asking him and like even if you didn't know he was lying his body language in the way he answers those questions is absolutely hilarious in the time like when he's answering those oh jemar chase cracks me the fuck out now the spitting thing is it's bad it's bad and honestly that's the type of thing where you like you and this is grown man business now what happens now i just nothing to that guy to that guy i just say nothing to that guy and there's a funny just imagine like looking the camera dead in the eye and being like i'm not chris long like just like just like it's in effect the same level of of untruth like we all have the field level of what happened bro like and you know that but that's the thing in the in the moment is just like why do you feel like unless you're at

the bottom of a pile doing anything in a football game. And even then, and even then, there's stuff that happens at the bottle of the pile of pining. You're just like, how's the cameras even seeing that? How did, like, how the angle just work out that someone rolled off and they can see you pinching someone's ass or doing something crazy? And it's just like, but nowadays, like, how do you feel like if you spit on someone that a camera did not see it and that you're confident enough to be like, no, I didn't do that? Because, because you know you're going down. You just didn't want to like, But here's the thing. I want to flip this around and give a lot of credit to Jalen Ramsey here.

He's not going to get suspended for what he just did. If that's what you're saying he might get suspended for, I don't think he should get suspended. I think if the league suspends Jalen Ramsey for retaliating in any former fashion, I mean, like, he should have done the old yank, yank, yank, uppercut. He should have hit it. That's like, hey, I want to break this guy's jaw situation. Yeah. Like honestly, if somebody spits in your face, like, you're going to try to hurt him. So for Jalen Ramsey to have the wherewithal to say, like, I can tell watching him that he's like, I'm not getting ejected.

I'm not getting suspended. We are in the playoff race, dude. And these guys aren't. And I hate that for the Bengals, but like this is, yeah, you don't do this shit. You just don't do this shit. The, um. Now what happened in the game? Because Aaron Rogers has a left wrist injury.

We have Mason Rudolph. We get Mason Rudolph now. Yeah, the Bengals is just, the Bengals are, that whole experiment, it's not even experiment, they're just done. Like, they shouldn't even, I don't even feel like they should even think about putting Joe Burrow out there this year. Don't do it. No, I think this kind of solidifies it, in my opinion, like you're too far out of it, in my opinion. Don't do that too. But as for the Steelers, like, and who they play next week?

They got the Bears. They got a tough stretch coming up, yeah. At Bears, Bill's at Ravens. Is it crazy to think that something that is just moving Jalen Ramsey to see? like might have like really help that defense solidify and get going the way they they like have needed to or the way that I guess that Steelers guys you expect them to also Dougger I mean I think Douger is a huge part of that too right I think the about James he getting food putting safety and Dougher amsy at safety help yeah yeah

so Dugger with a big play yesterday pick six yeah good for him good for him because he was the way it was described to me in New England this and by somebody who played with with him or anything up there at the time, but like it just seemed like he had kind of like lost his joy for the game. Like he was in a bad spot up there for him and his career. And it's almost like the Steelers move probably invigorated him a little bit. And I hope that's the case because I like to watch him play when he came out. Um, so yeah, we'll see. Can I tell you my favorite play from that game quick? It was so fucking awesome seeing Darnow Washington catch a ball in space, stiff armed the shit out of two dudes. He looked so big carrying the ball to you.

stiff-armed him and then trucked him in i think it was like a 40-yard gain it felt like made more like 25 to 30 but it was such a cool play i love that guy he is so tight he's so massive it's awesome dude he should be yeah he filled like three body bags in that play dude when you see him do this one time you need to give him eight targets a game maybe mason yeah like hand him the ball like hand it off to him on like an end around fuck it just to see what happened and that offense i like the way the offense look with mason rudder so it'll be cool it's getting cold i mean wants to tackle somebody wants to tackle that guy that is very true there's still indentations of those three dudes hitting the ground for real that's a semi truck

here we go read asked me yesterday what are you always talking about when you say i didn't catch a license plate on that guy yeah i'm like for anybody that's wondering the same thing i mean it's like getting hit by a truck when somebody runs you over on the field like that and and like the license plate on him is eight zero yeah watch you know what you got to get him the ball and fucking open field. Okay. We're almost done here. Ravens Browns, the Hemingway game. Hemingway game, bro.

The reason, I don't know if this qualifies, but, you know, it is the Hemingway game, I think, because for much of the game, the Ravens are fighting for their lives in this football game. Keaton Mitchell drops a pass and turns into a pick six. And all of a sudden, when you're playing the Cleveland Browns and customarily you haven't had a lot of success running the football on them, you got to throw the, the football the wind is whipping in cleveland um it it just uh it just felt like a game they could lose and they find a way to win it i baked into the fact that this is the hemingway game is

i know i talk about gambling sometimes this was one of those like white whale games for me where i was like this is the one i'm picking this game i didn't even give it out this week i think making it out but i had it at 38 and a half and i put like more than that you're not more than that you're I should have on it. And it comes down to thinking you got it in the bag, Mark Andrews on fourth and short. Todd Munkin, you motherfucker, you almost cost your team the game.

You got to tell Mark Andrews to get down and kick the field goal and walk it off because you end up, Todd Munkin almost cost us a lot. He cost me for sure in my family, but he almost cost everybody the Shador Sanders first take-a-thon this week, which is happening anyway today.

I'm watching people on TV set their jaw to deliver any take, but yeah, it's hard to be a rookie quarterback in the league. You know, he could get better next time. That's the take. But I'm hearing people talk about like, oh, Cleveland has, it's been unfair to him. And Kevin Stefansky doesn't want him to win. I'm like, it looked to me like any rookie quarterback coming into a football game cold

against the team that features Kyle Hamilton and, you know, Wiggins and Awusie. Wuziye saved us in the end zone from a, I mean, Chador actually threw one dime in the end zone that Ouzi played through the hands on. That was great. Otherwise, it was a very up and down performance, mostly down. It was like four of 16 for, then he had a grounding and a pick. And what do you expect somebody's going to look like, A, in this offense, B, cold off the street. I'm not going to put extra dip on my chip and say,

C, Chador sucks. Not doing that. But what I'm also not going to do is listen to people, be like, yeah, the deck stacked against them. Please, like, the deck stacked against every player playing in Cleveland, including Dilling Gabriel. And there's a take out there that Shador Sanders is somehow, like, the only quarterback that never got practice reps.

Dude, do you know how an NFL practice works? like backups don't get a ton of reps. They get reps with the scout team. They don't get game plan specific reps. So like any other quarterback that goes in cold in a situation like this, he's not going to look great. We should just move on to the next game and hope that he doesn't end up in a fucked up situation.

Which is the Raiders. So hopefully he could do a little bit better. I feel like that's a team that if you're a young rookie, that's probably a defense in a team that you probably would want. want to get your feet wet against if you're going to get a full game to start. So hopefully they'll get him coached up throughout the week this week and they'll put on a better performance next week.

But just like you said, I think it's too early. It's too early. It's also he doesn't expect to come in the game, you know, and good on him for being ready and everything. That's his job. But like I could do without the, it's like tabloid level analysis is what it's kind of come to. and I'm like, you know, what you do when you give disingenuous takes about somebody is you turn off the population as it pertains to the player.

And that's not fair to the player. There's a bunch of people watching first take this morning and they're like, are you fucking kidding me, bro. And they walk away and they're like, I don't like the kid because I heard Cam Newton say that like Stafansky hates him and that's why he played bad yesterday. Because it doesn't add up. You know, and I think that's unfair to Shador Sanders. And if anything, like, I don't think, like, it's my, I don't feel like these coaches, like, hate the players. They might hate the situation that they're in and the type of outside noise a player, a player can bring. And if it's not dedicated to how good the player is or what type of plays he's making, I just feel like some coaches, like, they don't want to deal with that.

Well, there's also, isn't it possible that maybe Dylan Gabriel's better at this point in this career? No, absolutely. And they picked him ahead of Shador because they thought he was better. And like there's no conspiracy at play here. There's a coach that's fighting for his job, or maybe he doesn't want to be there anymore. But like the last thing he wants is to look worse. I think he would like Chodor to go in the game

and make the throws. Absolutely. But the deck stacked against them and anybody that plays quarterback for the Browns. So, you know, I think the Ravens have found a way to position themselves to win the division. I think they do win the division. It would be hard for me to believe

that they're not going to catch the Steelers. Is the offense good? I think they're up and down. I think they're up and down. But that defense is a hell of a lot better than it was. And, you know, we beat it to death with the Kyle Hamilton chess piece thing, but that's the whole key. And it's Gilman coming over.

And, you know, all of a sudden it kind of just completes your secondary in a way that, like, they can play a lot better. And you go get the Jones, Draymond Jones, from Tennessee. Tennessee. He's not like a splash player, but like it helps. You know, just a little tinkering. You heard Roquan Smith after the game yesterday get up

and stand at the podium and go to bat for Zach Orr. So, you know, like internally it doesn't seem like they were blaming what was happening on Zach Orr. Ravens are minus 325 to win the division. Steelers are plus 270. Right now the Steelers at 6 and 4, they're a game ahead of the 5 and 5 Ravens. I got Tyrod Taylor

beating Lamar Jackson next year. I think that would be a good game. That's going to be a better game than it would have been. And I mean no disrespect to Justin Fields, but I think Tyraud just got that KG vet in him where he knows the game situation. And I feel like those guys are playing. I hurt for Justin Fields, though,

because last week he threw a dime on the left side line to fucking A.D. Mitchell. And I hate to, like, boil it down to one play. But it's like he made some throws in that game. He did what Aaron Glenn was asking him to do. He said, I want to see him push the ball down the field. The game before last week, Aaron Glenn afterwards said

he made one throw down the field and that's what I wanted him to see be aggressive. And he was aggressive with A.D. Mitchell but couldn't haul it in. That's right. Bo, take us away. International game. Chris, I've been waiting for you to bring this up because let me tell you about my

experience with this game. It was an absolute fucking thriller. 16 to 13, the dolphins who I really like watching I think that they're, you know, a great organization and the commanders. And I just keep thinking to myself, man, we are putting such a great product on the field here in Spain. So I don't know if, you know, I told you this. We did our Thursday preview show. One of my America's teams I never got to was Bo Allen because it was my birthday.

So I had a huge celebration of that over the weekend, which culminated in the events of me getting very drunk on Saturday. I woke up just so fucking excited to watch the Dolphins and the commanders in Spain. Turned it on, watched two series. and immediately fell asleep. So that is how that game went for me, and that is my analysis here. And you know what? I believe in owning that.

And, yeah, that's how I feel about it. I just wonder all of Honolulu, they were probably up at 2 a.m. watching this game or six hours before? Oh, yeah, yeah. 9 a.m. until, yeah, 3 a.m. Yeah, that's crazy. Think about that.

And they were probably, and they were probably up Still from the bar, though. Probably still from the bar. Yeah, you didn't wake up at three. No, it's just the support. I told you, it's just a support. Like, it's random. My sister got married in Hawaii while this is when Marriota was playing for the Titans

and they had a Monday night game. And Monday night football starts at like 1.30 in the afternoon there. And every single thing on that island in Maui shut down watching Marietta play. Literally signs on the door until that game was over. where everyone was in somewhere in establishment, and that game was on TV, and they were supporting him. So I can just imagine seeing Tua and him versus each other. They were probably lit in Hawaii watching this game.

Dude, did we go through the whole breakdown without shouting out Miles Garrett, who just, like, quietly. 15 seconds. This is, okay, this is the point. Yeah. Okay. But the thing about Miles Garrett is, the thing is very unfair to him is he'll have, like, four sacks in the game, and we'll be like, yeah, next game.

Shoulder standers. Yeah. standard but like if for some reason i know why he doesn't show up one sunday it's because people you know the whole game plan is predicated on blocking him then you got people on like local radio shitting on him and saying like oh he chose the money he's lazy like he doesn't like fucking he doesn't want to win it's crazy how good this guy is 11 sacks in four games 11 buckets it's crazy how good he is and if you don't i want to be you just if every player the NFL. What'd you say? I want to be him. I want to be him. Yeah, it would be cool. Did you see the

photo of him? Like, I can't remember where I saw it on my timeline or who put it out there, but it was just him and a towel. It was just like talking about his stats over the last three or four weeks. He looks so big and he's so fucking good. Yo, can I say. I just wish he wasn't on the Browns. There's people in people in the chat. I wish he wasn't on the Browns either. But like everybody's like, yeah, he chose. He chose. He did choose his feet. Well, he did choose. He did choose. his fate. But isn't it funny how like fans get sometimes? They just want to be mad at players

because if he'd have said, I don't want to fucking play here, I want to go somewhere else. And he's disloyal. He's selfish. I can't believe you. There's your picture, Beau. We did so good. I saw that. Look at it. And so he opts into a situation where he's been with a franchise's whole career.

As much as, hey, and again, I can only draw from personal player experience here. Keep going. I'm not. I Obviously goes without saying none of us in here are Miles Garrett, even half. But the point is like I have, I'm so happy with the way things ended up late in my career. But there was always a weird part of me. It was like, man, going out on your sword and being on the franchise you started with is such a point of pride for guys.

Like one team guys. Like there's something to that. And hey, guess what? When they give you like a billion dollars on top of it, you're going to want to stay in town and try to see it through. And the truth is, if we're being honest about the Browns, they're a fucking quarterback away. It's very true. They've done a good job of picking people around him. What am I supposed to be seeing here?

Well, this is the picture that Bo called out of Miles Garrett. I'm good. Why isn't this illegal? Like, what other profession can you be in a towel and, like, people can come in freely come and interview you? Like, let him get dressed, bro. What's he doing with an AK in the fucking building? Can we get to the next?

Do they not have a metal detector? Can we go? Can we go to the next thing, please? This is crazy. Yeah. Next thing, please. Do that shit. Looks like me.

Never mind. Here y'all go. All right. So what is the next thing? Next thing is we got to go to Bermuda. Can you guys play the sounder? Where's my microphone? Oh, it's on the wall.

Bermuda Triangle. We're foot. baseball games disappear. Kevin Holland. I don't know, Jim. This one might disappear. Dude, I'm so fucking excited to be here. In the Bermuda Triangle, joining you for the second time.

The Bermuda Triangle is a place, Nate, as you know, where planes and boats get lost. And so do football games, as you heard from Kevin Harlan and our friend Tony Romo. Davis Mills said this week, you know, my wife used to get mad at me. She'd ask me a questioner. I want to argue a little bit, and I wouldn't react. She'd say, why are you mad? And I'd say, like, it is what it is. We'll figure it out, which, as you guys know, is a really dangerous fucking play. But Davis Mills lives

dangerously. He's not worried about the Bermuda Triangle. He's the type of guy you want in the Bermuda Triangle on your side. He's actually the perfect guy to play behind this offensive line because of the thickness of his neck. It stabilizes your brain. It's actually genius to stash him way on this team. They're down six-nothing with seven minutes ago in the game. You think he's fucking worried about it? Nope. Somebody that says shit like that to his wife is worried about a six-point lead that they spot the Titans.

Don't look now. The fucking Texans are in the playoff race, Nate. You feel that wind on your neck? Do you feel that? It's not an ocean breeze, brother. Is Will Anderson breathing down your neck? What if they catch the jazz? They're not catching a job.

might catch the jazz. They are five and five. And they are, you don't even need, you don't need GPS in the Bermuda triangle to find Nico Collins. Give him the ball fucking 15 targets will do. Will Anderson, by the way, with a three piece. So short week, is Tickdale in there? What do you mean? Did you find him in there somewhere? No. He had a, he had a massive injury last year. Well, okay. They're not catching. Short week, short week for the Texans, who, who, who, if they can find their way out of the Bermuda triangle, they'll be playing in a fucking standalone spot on Thursday night against the Buffalo Bills. And I got to say this, as you know, a Josh Allen fanboy, he played like shit last time he played down in Houston. And is the game in

Houston? Yep. That's a tough matchup for the bills. So I'm not saying they win the game, but if they can find their way back to the mainland, they might be six and five next week. You never know. Texans are alive. Shout out Davis Mills and his thick neck. That was the Bermuda a triangle game. Hey. I don't know, Jim. I'm only going to give a little golf clap for that.

Did the fucking green screen work? Yeah. Yeah. It was hot. Look at that. It looked great. You're in the water. Look the electric. Do I look like I'm in the water? Yeah, bro. Oh, that's fucking sick, man. Lightning Storm. It looks real good. Oh, that's awesome, dude. Too bad you gave that terrible take. Yeah.

You feel that breeze, though. I do feel the breeze a little bit. I mean, we're the Jags. We're the Jags. Be careful. You guys might end up in the Bermuda Triangle Week 18 against the Tennessee Titans. Don't you play them Week 18? Didn't we flash the schedule up earlier?

That could be the Bermuda Triangle game Week 18. Neither team would anything play for. We'll see. Or that might be the game where we're playing our scrubs because we're already in. Ha, ha, ha. We'll see. All right, let's do this. Now we're going to hear from...

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Use responsibly, please. Yeah, what's next? Wait till you're 21, not 18. 21. Is it 21? changed when I was a senior really even better yep yeah dude become an adult before you try things like you make adult choices like your frontal lobe fully developed that's right yeah yeah so that doesn't happen until 25 or else you know

until you start stop rooting guess I'm ahead of the game though might develop at 21 well we bow is now a zone guy bless you he's he's come over to the good side and and and now the landline now we got some great calls calls on some folks. I want to hear from them. You got it. Just calling early today before the game. I noticed I've kind of been losing my temper after the game, so I just wanted to do a vibe check for the game.

I wrote a song. It's called They're All Wide Open. It's a cover of Scott Stop Creed. So this is the commanders play early today. It seems my day Will fill with rage I close my eyes Begin to pray Suddenly Dexter mentally plays

They're all wide open Running down the field Sideline Welcome to this team You'll see unspeakable Things They're all wide open. If I had just one wish, only one day, man.

I hope we stay out of seconds and 25. I hope we change the scheme, because I can't change my team. I spent my life in pain for fucking nuts. Side line Welcome to the speakable Anyway so much to think of that That was really good I love that

The best is the kid's voice in the background Yeah definitely his His child was not Amused with his generational hurt right there There were unspeakable things It should have been And he called in he gave us a post line That would have worked better than

He gave us a post-game calling, too. Did he really? Yeah. Oh. Hey, Chris. Your buddy from Minnesota, Colin. Watch the game a little earlier today. I don't know.

I mean, there's some bright spots. Good to see us play 11-man football. We stayed at a second in 25, which was important. Overall, you know, the defense played hard and competed very well. Well, you know, I think we got to talk about this mad gay guy. I mean, obviously, you know, it happens, you know. But I got to tell you, man, turning around after missing the 57-yarder and suggesting that it was a bad hold from trust.

The only consistent performer in March. They did cut him. I don't like that at all. Put some respect on Trusway if you're Matt Gay. I want him gone. And about an hour and a half ago, the commanders announced that they did in fact release kicker Matt Gay. Man, I'm sorry. That's tough.

That's tough. 31 years young, Matt Gay, out of a job. all because he blamed Trussway. Did you know Matt Gay had dyed his hair at one point? Laces out. I did. The laces were in. That was the problem.

Yeah, I know. Laces out. No, I know, but like, it is trust. Oh, that was the collar. Oh, it was a dolphin too. Yeah. Sorry to. Here's the problem with that game.

That game was a dead fucking over. A dead over. They were moving the ball. up and down the field. And then they just sucked. That was my analysis of it, Bo. We spent way too long on that game. We've got two more call-ins.

We've got one Eagles fan who wants to give us a ring. Hey, boys. This is Mike from Delco, Colin. Love you guys. Look forward to you guys every day. Colin, after that, Eagles win, man. What the fuck? I'm just so tired of winning and feeling like shit afterwards.

I don't get it. We won. I want to be happy, but I just feel like, oh, I'm shit. I just want to feel good after a win. God,

I wish the Eagles made me as hard as this podcast does. Hashtag no oyster. Hey, they're fully torched. He's fully torched. No, but I mean, like, listen,

I, I'm not glad we're here. I'm glad that the Eagles are, or what are they, seven and eight and two, something like that, eight and two. They are.

We do this for a living, but like I keep forgetting record. Eight and two. Tied for the best record. Which goes to show you. It's not, like, we operate off like the eyeball test.

I think some of the most discerning fans do too, where it's like the, hey, yeah, but we're eight and two just doesn't carry the kind of weight you want it to because in the same show, if somebody were to bring up the Denver Broncos, Eagles fans might be like, well, they're not going anywhere.

Good luck telling that to a fucking Broncos fan. They're 8 and 2. We're going somewhere. We're winning, though. Nine and two. It isn't about the wins. It is about the wins, but it's about how you look winning, because that's the predictor of future success,

and I think that's what everybody's saying. But I will. Like last night, I want to say, like, I thought the game plan was like real spotty. What else is new, especially in the passing game. But it was the weather. The weather had something to do with it, too. The weather had something to do with it too.

We've got one more. We've got a question. But how about that fucking defense, dude? Different level. Hey, guys. Love the podcast. This is Katie. I'm a Minnesota Vikings fan. And my question is not sarcastic.

At what point as a player do you realize that this season is cooked? Do you have to be in a mentality where you keep competing or at some point, you all look around the locker room and realize like this is the reality? Just wondering how the actual players on the field have to deal with that because as fans, obviously we can think that the season is over probably way before you guys ever do. Or maybe not. Let me know. I'm convinced that sometimes I really didn't know I was too stupid like like the writing was on the wall like in training camp but I was just too naive and stupid I swear as a young player you just don't know how things work and you know I think it's kind of like a deal where when you're on an airplane if the plane starts shaking you want to look at the flight attendants because they've been in the air a lot they know what's they know what's scary and what's not

not. If you have veterans, you want to look at those veterans in training camp early in the season, in meetings, like what, what are they given off? Like, what's the energy that they're giving off? Like, do they look hopeful or do they look like they're just punching a, you know, a clock? That's what you want to look at is like the guys that have been there. But as far as the young players, you don't have a choice. We've talked about this a lot. Like, as somebody who's been on a lot of bad teams, you just on Sunday, you have to kind of trick your mind. And it's better if you have no frame of reference otherwise like I did when I was a young player like I didn't know any better this is football in the NFL you show up on Sunday and you hope you don't lose by 30 and you play as hard as you can

because you know everybody's going to make fun of everybody on the team and you have to like avoid being like that guy you know it's a lot worse to play on a bad team this is the one thing today it's a lot worse to play in a bad team than it was in 2010 absolutely because of social media because of coverage because of like they were they were shooting our games through a Hubble telescope It was awesome. Like you look back at some of those games, man. You're like, that wasn't me out there. Right.

I could like Jamar Chase. That wasn't me. That's bad. I think that's Adam Carriker. You know, like that's the kind of, but now it's like these bad teams. So you do have to fight to survive when you're out there. I don't mean survive because, you know, somebody's going to remind me that we, you know, we're not like soldiers.

But what I'm saying is like survive from a football standpoint. because that shit's that shit stays on tape it's your it's your it's your it's your sometimes you think you're on a bad team though early in the season and you're actually pretty good like i remember in 2017 early i remember i didn't realize that we were good until like we didn't know everyone else had already known you know what i mean we didn't know no that was funny um there's actually a miced-up moment where at the um at the end of the broncos game you're talking to me on the sideline and you're like are we good speaking of looking at flight attendants and i was like we're like i was like i think we are yeah i was like i think we really are but even at being like five and one or six and one like

you're like because you're a player you know that wins don't wins aren't everything you know what i'm saying and i think that's where it comes from with with media members that played that are like yeah you know you win a game but like how do how do you look because we didn't know in 17 that we were any good until almost the playoffs we didn't know we were real good until fucking carson got hurt and then we're like oh we're not good anymore and then we're like oh we're suddenly awful we're very good we're still very good yeah just soon jimar chase just got officially suspended for one game yeah no question damn that makes a lot of sense one game check for him is half a million dollars damn that's an expensive lugi that's an expensive lugi for sure damn man okay

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But yeah, shout out to betmGM. Be careful out there. Be careful in night. I will tell you more about that in a minute. Best flight, fellas. Bo kick us off. Let me kick us off. flight Chicago Bears flying back from Minnesota short flight you're you know you're

you're you just kind of clinch the lead for the NFC North it's great it's a great flight you're up and down it's nice it's good flight well up and down anybody else I'll give you the I'll go last I'll want to sway the judge what do you got I'm going with the six and five Carolina Panthers. You get out of Atlanta with a win and the shoulders of a great performance from the Prince. Also, what looked like it was a really bad injury to Bryce early on that game,

but he was obviously able to battle through it. Panthers are a weird team, but massive games come Monday against the Niners in a tightly contested NFC playoff race. Bryce Young should probably be, I mean, can you imagine how good flight is when you're him like no the seats are huge yeah plenty of legs are awesome no honestly yeah he's just his feet are like you know what I'm saying yeah I don't know shade no

it's just good being him dude you fit in all the clothes if he can turn this thing around he really has like the greatest life no doubt small sports cars roller coasters small house I was a little big for the roller coasters small house I was a little big for the roller coasters. Anyways, go ahead. Best flight. I'm going with dolphins flying home from Madrid, sticky win, and Mike McDaniels can actually, like we're talking about, sell to the team that, hey, we still got a chance. We still got a chance. If we keep winning, if you look at the stuff, there's a slight chance for the dolphins to actually still be in it. No, no question. Because the bills are like, you know, they're hit or miss. What if the fins take them?

fucking Jags place they ain't winning the division what if they take the bills they're not taking the bills the bill the what if you just like all these what if like you're what if you just started this conversation with a what if yeah yeah what somebody get this guy under control what if you just what if no no no no i'm gonna do the date thing now i'm gonna talk over you and yell i'm gonna yell we're not talking about that we're talking about the you started wait wait can we run the 30 seconds back that just happen we're talking about the dolphins you go what if the dolphins take the bill's spot and i go what if they take the jag spot they go here you go with the what ifs because this is my what if right so best flight jaggs this is my one

jacks is my what best flight dolphin from madrid it's mine it's mine it's like my daughter all right so it's it's the best flight is Miami dolphins Is it ever a good flight when you leave Madrid? I've never been. In fact, it's a sticky wind, but I'd say it's more of a stinky wind. Then you've got to fly that far. Yeah. Yeah.

When they come back with a lift, you know, because in Spain, they speak with a lift. Do they? You know they? You know that? In New Orleans, they give you a paella for the fly. Bro, if I was on the dolphins, I would come back. You come back with a paella for sure. Yeah, it would be real good.

But if I was on the dolphins, I would come back with a list. just play it for like i would i would act i would like keep the bit for like the rest of the year i got i'm huge in the pain yeah i think i pick something up i got a little sick i got a little thick over there i got a little thick um we've got the teeth next week the chiefs got the thief i'm my new favorite thing dude the chiefs i'm gonna start writing that out like in the whole thing okay best flight what the fuck was Gabe Davis doing a week ago, huh? How about you get to call your agents like, hey, I got a lead on a job.

He's like, which job? Agent says, the job. There's a big cantalote farmer up in upstate New York that wants to throw you the football and money downs, dude. You don't even need to fucking practice. They're not going to make you learn the playbook. You already know it. Fly up first class.

Gabe Davis, best flight. You know, yeah. You know. Gabe Davis, top night. Is he the, you know, it's not,

the Panthers. Bryce Young. Let's go. He's sitting there. You talked about it. He's got a good spot. He's got a good seat. Great for Gabe Davis.

He's caught some balls. You know, yeah, it's nice flying up. Oh, I'm out of Jacksonville. No, it's Bryce Young. He's got a 30-minute flight. Woo, daddy. Off a W and off a career high.

Let's go. That's one. You want to limit his iPad time, no. That's, you know. You know, You don't want kids just fucking next. Next is worst flight. You've got the big case.

You know? You're right. Hey, Larry Hoover. I agree. All right. Worst flight? Worst flight. Charge is O line.

Put them in the cargo deck. Make them fly down there where there may or may not be enough oxygen in the plane. You know? Let them fly down there with Nick Cage and in Conair. Put them in that part of the plane because that, was terrible. Make them feel what their quarterbacks feeling. Yeah, for real. Suffocate it back. Yeah. Exactly.

When the plane turns, like all the luggage crushes them. Yeah, like that's how they should feel because that's how they made Justin Herbert feel. Honestly. And Herbert gets to go to first class. So the rest of the team. Yeah. Herbert first class. Oh, there's a weight problem. Then make them jump out of the fucking plane, dude. There's a parachute. Operation Dumbin drop.

Remember that? Harbaugh's passing out. Trevor Penning in a parachute. Yeah, dude, terrible. Date, worst flight. Worse flight. Seven hour flight, mind you. Worst flight.

Gross. Butt sweat. Those guys don't shower. It has to be the Bengals, and specifically, Jamar Chase, knowing that he lied to the media, and he's about to go viral, saying that he didn't spit and then probably being on the plane, just watching all the mentions.

of your name and the playback of you actually watching people who have internet in the air like look at you like who you told guys you told in the locker room like I didn't do that bro he's tripping I ain't spit on him I would never do that and then you look you'd be like man this guy because yeah I just feel like that's probably the worst fight the worst flight just in real time like it's kind of like knowing that you lie to the media and like how big it's probably going to get and then fast forward now like just being like damn i might get suspended it's a one game knowing i'm going to get fined like i'm about to lose money for this yeah i let i let jalen ramsie kind of win he got under my skin and

worst flight yeah ramsies uh like ramsie can get in your head top notch top notch shit talker he's developed in one of my favorite players of all time i'm willing to say that yeah i like i like Like Ramsey. Hell yeah, dude. He was a great player for the Jags. Thank you for your service. I got a worst flight. No, go, go, yeah, yeah.

Well, Chris, that was a great worst flight out of you because I had to readjust my worst flight. I'm going to get my worst flight to the Cheves. You were going to give it to the Chargers O line? I was going to give it to the Chargers. Yeah, I mean, I liked yours more than mine, frankly. More precise. No, mine is the, mine is the chiefs.

Yeah, exactly. The Chiefs. Because you're leaving mile high, you're five and five. Like, when was the last time you got on a flight after a close loss, five and five? If you're a part of that team, probably never. You know, you're probably sitting there probably real quiet on the plane, eat your little peanut butter and jellies and your little flight grapes. Yeah.

In silence. Mm-hmm. Tough one. He said, mm-hmm. That's always a bad feeling like Omen. Like, if you on a team. That's a bad one, yeah. That always wins.

And like, you guys, like, don't know. how to lose, like those flights is always Do teams that know how to lose, bro? Yeah, like you can be kind of You got options, bro. Exactly. You can be on the plane. Exactly.

Exactly. But like, like, think about being on a plane like that. Like, you might be a guy that's just like, hey, like, I might giggle at something, whatever like that. And you might get exiled for that. I don't know what it's like. I mean, honestly, like, like, what are you laughing about over there? We just fucking lost.

We might not make the playoffs. Oh, yeah, that's my favorite, though. The coaches that are like, the coaches that are like, I saw you smiling on the plane home. I'm like, bro, like, yeah, and I saw you call fucking, I saw you call fucking draw on third and seven. Or like, I, like, what are you doing, bro? Like, you're going to be mad at people because they smiled on the plane? Coach virtue signaling just so like they, yeah, just they want everyone else to know that they're more upset about.

Now, Keon Coleman, Bo, dancing on the sideline when he's suspended because he missed the meeting. like that's where you got to kind of stand up straight. Do you know what I'm saying? Because you're the only guy people are looking at. Buddy. There's nothing you can go on the plane ride back to change the outcome of the game. Now just don't be an asshole about it. Nolan,

worse flight. Worst flight. Any ball that Sam Donald threw 10 plus air yards. Woo! Targets of 10 yards down the field. He was 3 of 14, three picks, and finished with a 5.7 pass a rating. That's a single digit number on a three digit number scale.

That was the reason for that offense's collapse yesterday. And after Halloween, he was seeing ghost again, something, right? It was like he didn't have enough air traffic controllers, Nolan. Oh, man. Well said. You know, I thought the shutdown was over. You know what I'm saying? Yeah.

It's not good. Not good. Bo, great pick. The Chiefs. The Chiefs. The ultimate worst flight. Yeah. Denver?

That's got to suck, especially. five five. He gave it to Bill. This is going to be good. I wouldn't make it was in here. It would be on your ass about these. Whatever. Make him lick my brain.

He gave it to a ball. That was really creative. You know what I was? That was creative. Yep. Yeah, but I mean the Chiefs. All right. They lost the gods team.

Next one. A bunch of suckers. Suckers. Bevel Comway. Bevel Comway. All the playoff prediction right now. not seeing Kansas City, seeing Kansas City out of the playoffs. That is absolute Beville Conway for me right now.

Probably not going to win. That's not even a thing you can see. Yes, you can. The Chiefs are not in the playoffs. The Chiefs. The Chiefs. The Chiefs list graphics. Somebody needs to call Andy Reid and tell them the name of their team just changed.

Call the Hunts and tell them, excuse me, Hunts. Your team name has just changed. Not because like if we want us, we might be able to, we might sponsor. We might want to, yeah, we chiefs at one point. Don't give them. You're right. You know what I'm saying? You know what they call the KC.

Locker room now? What? The den of cheese. The den of cheese. That's really good. That's really good. That's fucking beautiful. That's fucking beautiful.

Okay, so are you doing Bevel Conway? Yes. I'm going to go quite. literally a shot out of commercial last night um we're watching the the game and yeah this is a homer take not that shot this shot this look at this these are the fucking banners which uh which are cool because me and bow were on one of those banners we're not on the banner but we were part of them we were part of the team and uh it just was a very physical football game and the snow started to fall at the end of the game and when you know the weather was shitty and it was a big moment in the game

right and you're coming out of a commercial you got now you took a still shot I guess we can't use the video read no well that sucks I really wish somebody would have reminded me of that because the video was something else that picture sucks so I I humbly

bow out of this well I saw the video so I know the I know oh the judge knows it was gorgeous the fucking light flakes fallen and it was my career goes oh there's some there's some rain. Oh, maybe it's winter. Oh, it's some snow. What did Mike Torrico say that I want it on the soundboard? Do you have it on the soundboard? I think it's on there. Can I put it? Where is it? Is it in the beginning or the...

The very last page. Very last page. Bottom right. Hey, oh, that's not it. I'm debuting a Mike Tariko sound. That's a sound that Mike Tariko made last night describing what the Tush push sounds like. He said, I love the mics being close to the Tush. Push, so you can hear all the... Mike Tarrico sounds like a poet saying anything he ever says, and then he got there, and I was like, yeah, don't do that again. Don't do that again.

Bo? Bevel? Bevel. Okay, you know what? I thought that there was something very beautiful about the, very appealing. Just the way the bucks at the bills looked, the deep blues. there were some reds from the bucks. It looked like one of those games or it looked really cold out.

Also, like, this kind of harkens back to the Dion Dawkins pregame coat under the pads situation, which I love now. I don't know if he did that yesterday, but I saw some clips on my timeline regurgitated maybe of him doing that. And I think that is such a fucking great look. So kind of a little bit of a two-for bevel right there, all right? Two-for would be the bucks at the bills. And then more importantly, the Deon-Dockens, you know, goose down jacket underneath the pads.

Just any time that has the opportunity to resurface, I'm fully in on. My belly yesterday was the Rams Midnight Blues. I know this is kind of controversial. Personally, I think if they take that light blue out of the sleeve, you have a perfect uniform. I think they did that really well. It's basically their version of the all-black. I love all-black uniform combos.

We get to see around the league. I love when the Ravens do it. I love when the Eagles do. do it um the rams looked looked really really good in those do love them yeah it was that blue stripe that needed to go or put the blue in the helmet yeah because my wife walked in and she was like yeah i don't know they kind of if you took the blue away it looked like the steelers a little too close and i'm pretty sure they probably sat in a focus group and we're like yeah that's kind of high that's a good point that's a good point but i think it almost worked i was shocked i told b y that

shit sucked and it actually looked pretty cool. It helps them play really well too. Yeah, it helps to be run a 4-5 or a 4-4. Yeah, those jerseys, man, there's something about them that just makes you want to give him the Bevel Conway, but we can't do it with the Eagles game and all that snow. Look at him spreading the ball out. He's just spreading the ball out. Hey, man, I'm like Matt Stafford a couple weeks ago.

You know, I know how to hit 10. You're like Bill Belichick on inside the NFL where we do football guy. week. Do you remember this? And he would always, you know, he would just give it to RC all the time. Well, you were doing for the jump, having played for him. He didn't want to show favoritism to somebody. Yeah, but yeah. All right. So what's it, what the fuck is, um, anti-bevel? Golly, I've got to go last. This is like a dinner when you're not ready. I'll go last. I'll go. My anti-bevel. Wait, who won that one? Sorry, I was, who won that one? Not you. What's the score at? Did you win it, though, fax?

I think it's probably one to one to one. Yeah, one one. Okay. He's just going around the room. Anti-bevel Conway goes to Arby's, you disgusting. Oh, my God. Disgusting fucks. Bro, the new fried steak bites that you have, oh my goodness.

I've seen a pitcher of these, and it looks like animal feces. I'm sorry, but it just looks so gross. Oh, I thought you got those. I thought you want to know. Does it taste like animal feces? No, like I wouldn't even want to try it. Like if that's what it looks like the pitcher and then on top of it, the meal costs $16, like, get out of here. Who in the right mind is ordering steak from?

But fried steak bites. It doesn't even sound appealing. none of the pictures look appealing at all like even promoting this like oh yeah that's not good that looks really bad i would eat that though i want to know who was in no for the experience i would absolutely eat that oh uh-uh for the experience you'd eat that yeah for the experience i think you know what that experience is i don't know what that experience is like that could look really bad but actually tastes really good did you try to pull one apart why don't you try Would you didn't they just kind of like you know it kind of like a fall off the bone kind of thing

You look at and you're just like I don't want to try that like I don't care what it tastes like yeah because of the look This is one of those things you shouldn't judge a book by its cover but sometimes when when your stomach in your health is on the line Mm hmm probably should like that that that that if it goes bad isn't worth yeah the fucking half a day stomach ache That you might get might not be worth it Yeah, it's just not worth it So that's my anti-bevel caraway. And then to put them next to some really good-looking curly fries, because Arby's, they've got it locked on curly fries.

But with those fried steak bites, anti-bevel. I'll try it. I'm sure you will. We'll order some here. We'll get steak bites and the Taco Bell Mountain Dew pie. Yeah, for Thursday. Who's next?

My anti-bell? I think the worst sight in football is any time the Bengals defense takes the field. These guys are awful. Dead last yards per play allowed. Dead last, EPA per play allowed. 31st in success rate allowed. 31st in pressure rate. Every bit as bad as they were last year.

And because of that, this season was doomed for the jump. Do not, do not, do not play Joe Burrow. It's not worth it. Save him. Save the man. Anybody else? Yeah, I got a good one. Imagine that you're a pretty good AFC team.

You're on your way to being a like a, you know, you're like maybe one year away from being a very good team. You've been decimated by injuries. And then you have to fly across the entire fucking country and go and play four quarters of football and stare up at the scoreboard afterwards. And you see it say 35 to 6 Jacksonville Jaguars over the charge. That's terrible. That's a tough, tough view for you. You know, and then you got to get your ass on that plane and fly back. So that's my anti-bevel charger jags, but also like just, you know, all shit talk here aside.

I think those are too gross uniform matchups. Something about it just doesn't do it for me. But when you look up, but you got to remember when you're looking up at that scoreboard in Jacksonville, you got that beautiful pool, baby. Yeah, that's true. That pool filled with that piss, same color those chargers pants are. See that? You see when I bring up the jags, what you guys do? You see what I did?

You see what I didn't say a fucking word. You say, I'm sitting here mind of my business. See what I mean? No, I say something. And it's word vomit from one of you guys. I say something about the pool and you bring it up pissed. Like, I don't get it. I don't get it, Reed.

Like, I've been cool with the, with the Broncos. But I got you. I'll remember that. I'm going to remember that. Anti. Anti-Bibble Conway. I was going to give it to, you know, Kathy Engelbert's tenure as she prepares to negotiate in the CBA and the WMBA. Obviously, you guys are following it.

I think she's done a terrible job. She makes $3 million. That's as much as, like, the entire league. That is an ugly deal. And she's drawn a lot of, you know. That's crazy. She's drawn a lot of criticism from a lot of the women in the league. And I think that, honestly, we should be fucking listening.

and I think it's ugly what she's doing. And you know what's worse? Caitlin Clark hasn't been reached out to buy Engelbert after her comments. That's insane, dude. There's nothing worse. I mean, maybe some of these little football things that you guys are talking about if you think they're worse, great. But like, I think there's nothing worse than this.

There's nothing. This is anti-bevel. Big time anti-bevel. This is anti-bevel Conway, bro. And I mean, you're right. It is the anti-bevel winner here this week. There's nothing worse than this. Thank you.

I appreciate it. Yep. Best seat. Eat shit, guys. Eat R.B. Stick bites. Best seat. Can I just keep it basic with this? I'll start.

Fuck it. Really jump the gun there. I'm just going to start a best seat. Let's just get back to our roots. Nice and simple. All right. Chicago Bears. You're leading the.

the NFC North, you know, you're in a pretty good spot. You're winning a lot of close games at the end of games. No one's really expecting you to be that good. And you're pretty good in bed Johnson's first year. Caleb's playing pretty well. Best seat, boom. Best seat is going to Scatabo, sitting front seat at UFC,

just fucking enjoying the fuck out of himself, screaming and doing ad-libs during the fight. Yeah. And for a guy who's injured, like, it's just, it's one of those things. You could either go down in the dumps, For people, like with big injuries, like if you don't know, especially a guy who's having a great season and you're a rookie, like you can really just go into depression. And just to see him out and about and seeing him on vlogs and just being upbeat and happy.

I'm happy for him. And best seat, Scadaville, because it's never fun getting injured, especially when you're playing as well as he was and kind of like getting a fame and the hype as he was at the timing. No, it is not fun. it is not fun who's up next Nolan I'm ordering last my best seat is viewers of the bucks bills game just a really fun game to watch ton of points love the JJ Watt

ion eagle broadcast crew they're a great lesson I think Watt does a hell of a job it was a bevel like atmosphere both talked about it cold day and buffalo cool uniform combos and it just felt like a shootout playoff game awesome viewing experience all around best seat the fans of that game man that's great uh anybody else anybody else anybody else anybody else i think it's you is that everybody

the best seat the north the north was it the what the the the goal post for uh you know Williams the one that he jumped right up on it's a good seat no it's not a good seat that's not a good seat you shouldn't say that uh I'm going to go best seat, the New Orleans Saints. They had a buy week. They're just sitting there watching all the other teams. And they're like, isn't it nice that we don't have to do this this week? And we won last week and we took that in our buy week.

Best seat, Saints. I mean, that's the best I got. Yeah. Great submissions. Man, yeah, viewers of bucks bill. Let's go. Years of bucks bills. There we go.

It's a good game. And we had those pretty uniforms from the bills. We did. A little red buffalo on the top. Yeah. Buffalo. Good look. Yeah, look at that.

It's hot. Good look. It's pretty hot. I love the bucks combo too. Next, worst seat. I got one. Ready? Oh, yeah.

Worst seat. It was the cop that shoved Nick Harbor from South Carolina. and then immediately just got like removed from his duties or whatever that guy is a complete and utter heart oh yeah tough place to be in national television uh everyone saw it immediately removed from his his you know his cushy little post there tough tough seat to be in and you know i'm sure he's never done that anywhere outside the stadium like i'm sure he's that's the first time ever that he's ever acted that way here's my thing ultimately like what are you trying to get out of this like you want something to happen where you're you're going to try to arrest this kid during the game? Like, that's like, I just don't, like, I don't even understand the thought problem. Why don't you just step out of the way and let the players walk by? Look at, if you look at it in slow motion, like, buddy's trying to move out of the cop's way.

Yeah. It's like, that's the same energy that ref had for Cassius March. That's so weird. That's so weird. Yeah, good call with that. And he goes, he goes after, he swings his left arm wide too. He did swing his left arm. He was going on both those.

He was seeking contact. I legit, I swear to God, I swear to God. saw somebody under the comments that was like, we should see the whole video first. I was like, bro. I was like, what do you want? This, no, I mean, these, these people. I'm going to stop you right there.

Yeah. Oh, my God. Like, you just have a copy and pasted? Yeah. You know. Now he's going to have to pay to go to all those games. Had to have the free front row seats. Yeah.

My worst seat. NFL fans in Spain he'll probably have a go fund me by the end of the week a bunch of people that would be weirder yeah yeah yeah think uh worst the NFL fans in Spain finally get a game in your homeland and it is an absolute shit show what an awful game I don't think the comments got into plus territory until that TD driving the second half the uh I think you described it as fuckery it was fucking old to go situation it was it was a fucker Bowl, dude. It's awful. But they're in Spain, player. Yeah. Awful. Wouldn't you like to be in Spain right now?

Not to watch that. Oh, I'd watch it. I'd spend a whole week there in Spain. I'd spend a week in Spain and watch the Bengals defense play the fucking Texans offense, dude. Is Spain that great? I think Spain's pretty legit. Is it not? We need to go. I like it. likes it. Cool. I like it. Let's go teach some Madrid and Spain fans about real football. This is, hey, let's show you a really good game like Rams Chiefs from 2018.

Yeah. Gotta be real confusing. Let's do it. To get the first, got to be real confusing to get the first NFL game there and you go in the overtime and the game just ends without the time all running out. Yeah. Yeah. That's got to be.

Right. Yeah. That's a good point. This isn't much different than soccer. It's just dudes kicking the ball. What the fuck? Oh, man. Worst seat.

Giving it to me and my family at the Virginia Safari Park this past weekend. I don't think I fully understand or knew what I was getting me and my family into going to this safari park. And it was exciting and it was fun to go one time. But. But. But never again. Wild animals are wild for a reason. And I just feel like opening up your window to try to feed them,

isn't really a fun or smart thing to do. If you like to be kind of on edge and scared, it's perfect. It's perfect for you. Yes. But it was like a haunted hay ride experience. Yes. Yes. But it's more that it's not even.

even haunt it's like it's it's it's the thought that yo this animal can just bite my hand or my arm yeah that video this videos your sound like holy shit and they can do whatever they want and then watching some animals their eyes being like you know i could just kick or ram the shit out of your car right now if i want to and like i'm not going to do it but having that feeling of the animal kind of giving you that like look at this llama this dude was the the ostriches are the ones you got watch yeah but these but they're also calculated I was trying to drive and they were like purposely look watch him speed up when I when I put on the gas because they know yeah they're trained they know he knows that I'm not going to run him over yeah so they just get in front of you

to be like hey what do you got in there yeah no they they really do walk you down at that part so I'm just say worst seat and then the six dollars for food that I that I spent for this 35 minute drive through this, it got bullied out of my hands in seven minutes. So, like, we were driving and kind of not having any food for the animals. So there was, like, some longer standoffs than I would have wanted because, like, literally some of the animals, they would not move until you open the window. And whether you threw food, like, they know, they know, they're like, no, you have food in there. Like, we're not moving.

Yeah, it's been trained. It's Pavlovian. Yep. Yeah. it's easy to train a llama dude i'm sure fucking idiots respectfully come on you can never get me with that trick i don't know nothing it's categorically a wild animal you could never put that turkey in here i was like hell no um am i worst seat yes yep whoever's name is baba next Yep, dub.

Oh, you don't have to give me a dub. No, no, no, no, no, no. I don't want a dub. Is people going to start calling you? No, the worst thing about it is? No, don't want to talk any more about it. I'm poking. I'm poking. I'm poking people in the chat.

I'm just poking. It's not, I know. Is the chance that it's not a human. No, I know. Oof. I believe it. Oof. Flying the wall.

There's someone that had a worse seat than Bubba, I'll tell you that. I guess whoever was on the ass end of that thing. I don't know if there is a good seat. in that scenario. All right, what's next? Flying the wall. I got one.

Besides the Bubba situation, fly in the wall for me. Why would you want to be there? That's insane. Come on. Dude. The moisters, aren't you curious?

See that? Eat the moister. Eat the moisters in. All right. Go next, next, next, like. Fly on the wall.

Free. game speech, I would love to have been a fly on the wall in James Winston's pregame speech. You know he was cooking some extra first starting a long time for Jay Boo. I was on the receiving end of a lot of those speeches. They're fucking great. You really don't ever know what he's going to say. And honestly, I don't think he does either. And God bless him.

I would have loved to have heard what exactly Jay Boo came cooking with pregame for the Giants on Sunday. It's great. Fly on the wall. I didn't know you sold shitty weed Sean McDermott Can you pull that up? Oh shit What is going on with this? You guys are doing some screen mirroring shit here

But this is legit they cut away to this I mean this is just an excuse to talk about this moment in the game where I gasped They were like and this is just this is something that Sean McDermott Has given every player on the team I'm like, damn, dude, what's he charging? It looks like pre-ground, like, Reggie Miller, dude. No, it obviously looks like seeds. You think it looks like, I can't see for me.

To actually plant like some weed. No, it just looks like bad grass, bro. Now, if you zoom in. Those are lentils. No, it's a piece of the field, I guess. But he put it in like a little mason jar, which is how I hear people get weed sometimes and they put them in the mason jars. I just thought it was like, he doesn't think,

things through sometimes harkening back all the way to the the pregame speech i think dude i think sean just has some blind spots dude where he's like yeah i'm gonna give everybody a little like a little happy meal with a mason jar of ground up substance and they're gonna put it on tv um yeah fly on the wall what the fuck is he thinking but it is like it what is it like grass from what Does anybody know what that really was supposed to be? I said it was from high mark and from the practice, like the practice facility thing. Field service or something.

A commenter said it's supposed to symbolize to fend our dirt, but it's just the actual rubber pellets below the artificial turf. He's been doing this since he was hired in 2017. This morning I smoke them stamps. And that's the kind of shape I'm in. Who's up next? Nate. Fly on the wall.

I'm giving it to Jacksonville's GM, who supposedly told Liam Cohen, I would not have a fat head coach on my sideline. So Liam Cohen has lost 35 pounds since they said March. Damn. They talked about it during the game. And even though that's my team, I just feel like there's some type of like, workers violations somewhere mixed in there. There's an HR thing.

Yeah, you can't tell a worker. I'm not going to have that. I don't think Liam Cole was that big. And I guess when you look back, I guess he was a little bit chunkier around the neck, but it's just like, dang, bro. I mean, he was wearing the vest, you know? Yeah.

Which is a great, it's a great move when you're, you know, the torso is a little bit. disheveled, you know, you can hide stuff. But when I heard them say that on the, during the game, I was like, maybe that was like off the record when he told you that. Maybe you shouldn't have said that on the air because I just feel like, yeah, there's maybe some. Man, when Jonathan Vilma, I guess it was, was in Spain.

And he said, he was like, they were like, what would you think if your quarterback carried out a fake like that? We would think that the quarterback was on drugs. Kenny Albert couldn't Oh my God, bro, I was at home Kenny Albert said he's joking He couldn't say that fast enough I was like oh my God

When he said that I'm sitting there watching the game My girl And Mara was like What? And I was like, do you just hear what they were saying And she was like no I missed it And I was just like

Yo, I was just crazy That he said that Tua at press conferences Is I want him And not answering questions for 60 minutes at the podium they're just quote machines okay Jerusalem okay next no one well that my my on the wall was just the Dolphins PR staff just like

those reading for him oh my God go over like trying to anticipate like where he's going to go with certain things be like hey like stay away from this stay away from that and then like maybe stay away from the Middle East yeah that wasn't even on your radar you know You know, you're just like, this one. You know, all right, what's next? Well, the winner, a James speech would be wonderful to be on the fly on the wall for. I don't know.

Oh, yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Hollow man. Oh, Javis.

Davis would say things pregame and you would just find like a couple of your buddies like your own episode of the office and you'd just make eye contact with them and try not to laugh is so funny. Well, what was the? Because I remember watching the National Championship when he was like, we are right then. And he kept saying that. We scorned.

We strong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're strong. I'm strong. We're strong. We're strong, then. That's incredible. Hallow man.

Oh, my God. That is a good question. Which PR team probably has the hardest job in the NFL? Might be the dolphins. No doubt. All right, coach. Try not to throw your players under the bus,

but I want to get fired. Yeah. All right, coach. Probably don't show up at bar after games. All right. Troll it. All right. Hollow man.

Well, fuck. I was going to do the cop, but now I got to do Sam Darnold like everybody else. It's just so not creative, but Sam Darnold like in a serious notice. The Hollow Man of yesterday. Now that could change next week, but like it just felt like that was the big game. Then, you know, everything, the narrative.

He just played in the narrative, but it's just one game. Yeah, my, uh, my hollow man is Jerusalem. No one kind of beat me there. But like, just imagine being, you know, a very peaceful, I can't even do this shit, tongue and cheek. It's just hilarious that Jerusalem would catch a stray, you know? That's an interesting hollow man. Nate Halloman.

Hollow Man, got to be... Yeah, let's go play a bowl game there right now. It's got to be Jamar Chase, realizing that he's going to lose a half a million dollars for letting... For letting Jalen Ramsey get under her skin and him getting caught spitting on him. Jalen Ramsey?

You're giving it to Jamar Chase. To chase. Okay, I thought you were giving him to... No, for letting Ramsey get under his skin. Yeah, it's definitely Hallamant. And losing... I didn't know his game checks were that much. Half a mill, jeez.

It's like 400 and 4. It's 400 and 40,000. Yeah. Plus like he gets incentives like 50 something bonuses for playing. So, yeah, just over half a million dollars for missing a game. Damn. And a big game at that. Not that you guys are in it, but, I mean, playing against the Steelers.

What you got, Calps? Nolan, Holo Man. My hollow man is Keon Coleman. Can't be missing meetings. And then on top of that, your absence allowed for Gabe Davis to come in off the street and ball out. Off the streets. He's right off the streets. He's right off the streets.

Yeah, take your job. He looked a lot more seamless of a fit in that offense yesterday than Keanu has this season. I think there was a stat that Gabe Davis had 6.8 yards of separation on a few of his roots. Oh, wow. And Keon Coleman was 2.4. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. Yeah, that tracks.

Dude, I wouldn't, honestly, I would, I would leave Gabe Davis out there. And I just, I'd see what happens. I mean, he's got to get the ball a lot down the stretch. That got to hurt, though. Trust, man. Trust is a powerful thing. I mean, that trade that long ago. Okay, so who won the Hollow Man?

Jamar Chase. Jamar Chase. Yeah. Good pick. Yeah, it's a good pick. Reed, you're lucky. You was one pick away from, for me thinking this is, in a way. In a way.

I was waiting for something. Right? You see it too, Bo? I was hoping that that was Cowboys strategy. I was pushing for that. STL Memorial. I can start going with the prince. Bryce Young.

500 million yards or whatever he threw yesterday. Incredible day at the office. beat the Blitz. It looked like a master's class out there. Great job from him. STL Memorial is going to, Josh Heinz Allen, breaking the Jaguars sack record from Tony Brackens.

Is it Tony? Yeah. Yeah, Tony Brackens has the record. I mean, Allen has the record now at 56. So congrats to him, and hopefully he can. keep setting a bar in that record, especially this year, get a few more sacks for us before this season is over? I'm going to go with Rams punter, Ethan Evans. Okay, I had to look up his name.

That's how STL Memorial this fucking guy is, dude. Didn't even know his name. We're all dragging their special teams to the mud. And you'd be hard pressed to find a guy who made a bigger play that nobody's really talking about. I think that punt to end the game was, it's season altering. You think about like, you might not go to Seattle in the playoffs for this very reason.

Who was on that game? Because the color guy. Olson. Greg Olson was like, man, that is one. And they were getting real close on the pylon to see how close he got on that one punt.

That was cool. If you'll notice, Greg Olson's at the center of the football universe deservedly so. like he's the guy driving press conference questions about personnel usage and run pass and he's calling the game with the coaches that have been forced to answer questions that he brought up it's just like dude he's so good at his job i said this yesterday we're watching him like he calls things out so much faster than the other guys and you know like i know they they could all see it if maybe

they had our vantage point but like he just he's snappy with it so shout out to gregg shout out Greg. Bo. STL Memorial down in Bermuda. Daniel Hunter, I feel like Chris, we talk about this, but every year he just gets like 14 or 15 sacks and you're always like, oh, wow, like you're surprised by it and you shouldn't be, but he had a sack and a half

down in Bermuda against the Titans. And, I mean, he's a great ed rusher man. Will Anderson also had a sack, but De Niel Hunter is fucking nice with it. So, STL for him, sack and a half against the Tennessee Titans. We're going Josh Heinz Allen. Great game. Great win for the Jags.

You scared him. You scared cowboy. No, dude. I just got to give love for dudes knocking down, knocking down records. I love it. Pretty special. It is a pretty special record. And we end with the game ball.

Game ball. Giving the game ball to Reed Dickerson. You know, going with the punches. Shout out cabs. The moment, I mean, we had an idea for the moment. Yeah. Last couple of weeks, you're just getting it all together, Reed. I think you deserve the game ball, man.

He deserves the game ball. I agree. Hard to disagree. I'm going to give the game ball to Reed's parents. Because Reed's parents made Reed. And if John didn't, you know. Keep it going. Shout out, Rangian, too.

Who's going to keep it going to keep it going? You know what? Now that you mention that, Chris, I'm going to give the game. ball to Reed's girlfriend. She's just willing to put up with him. What's her name? Her name is Emily. He wasn't going to get it.

He wasn't going to get it. Come on, run that. No, I'm going to tell you who got the game ball. The game ball is the Eagles D line. I'm giving it to, you know, there's nothing better when you walk in a locker room after a game after a big game and they're like game balls and they look at you and they look at not just you, but your whole group and you guys get to share it together. The whole D-line gets a game ball.

That's the best sentence in post-game football. And those guys absolutely deserve it. We talked about it earlier. Just dominant. Pulled the lion's card up front. That's what the fuck happened last night. Let's not get it twisted. And, you know, it's not just the interior guys.

The edges as well. That front was ferocious. Did they get a game ball in real life? They probably did. They should have. They should have. my game ball in here but you know to keep the cowboy reed love going i'll do a game ball for zendi cowboy reeds incredible dog the sweet pup best dog in the world and then my my secondary game ball is

chula he is becoming sam darndt's boogeyman had that group ready to roll yesterday um the front was awesome got pressure all day he was great he was great too yes absolutely no doubt absolutely without Yo, I tell you what, anytime we went to, any time we went to Miami. Man, there's some good coaches with the name of Shula. Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, anytime we went out, we went to Miami, shout out to Al Groh. I know it's going to be a restaurant thing. Yeah, Don Shulah's.

We used to stay at that little hotel where Don Shulah's is. Do you remember that when we play Miami? Yeah, fuck yeah, dude. Coach Groh used to have us in the spots, but now thinking about it, it used to be spots that he just wanted to go and hang out of that. But I respect that. You know what? You know what? Yeah.

Because that Miami Hotel. That's what coaches do, dude. They build the whole trip around them. I'm not saying Al Groh did that because if that was the case, we wouldn't have been standing a truck stop in Wyoming. Yep. But like, but most coaches, not Al Groh, but like pro coaches, if you'll notice, they build the whole fucking trip based on,

where you want to have dinner? We take the wives out for dinner, bro. Like, are you serious right now, coach? We have a curfew? Yep. But you don't? But Don Chula's, we used to have that whole. hotel right next to Don Shulah's in Miami.

We used to play them down there. Yeah. And best steak. Best steak at me. That's a good place. Great. Good place. You guys have a couple of stakes before that 48 and O drubbing?

Oh yeah. We just sat up there and ate ribby until two in the morning and then. Making potatoes. We just were just, we were like gorgeed with our food and then we just, we just leaned on the hurricanes, bro. Lean. And that's another thing. The rock did the coin toss.

He ain't that big. He's really not. He wasn't at that. time. I don't know if he was kind of like, you know, like between movies, so to speak. Could have been. But I was kind of like, we'll take care of the rock after the game. Take care of the hurricanes. I'm just joking. Rock's the man. The rocks the man. DeWane. All right. Winner, all you guys in here and Bo. We all won. Game ball at all y'all. Tanner, Charlie, Chris, Nate, Nolan, Bo.

I got a game ball. Everyone gets a game ball. The real one gets a game ball. I think. I think I actually got it. Get a game ball. Oh shit. You get a game ball. Hey, game ball. I want to give a game ball to the I want to give a game ball to the loyal, the locals, the loyal locals. The listeners, the watchers.

You guys have been in here for three hours and 38 minutes. And it honestly, as people that do the show, I don't know if I can speak for the other guys. I'm sure Bob would be like, I don't know about that. But like, it feels like it flies by for us. And I understand we're throwing a lot at you on Monday, but we do, again, we aim to please so even if your team only played in the bermuda triangle bowl

or we spent most of the time talking about shadore sanders and you're a browns fan and you wanted more like just know that we are thinking of you and we try to get it all done on mondays so thank you for sitting in and hanging tight we got a viral moment no no viral moment i'll give you a little a little uh little nugget tonight raiders cowboys no notes um um I think the Raiders cover. I think the Raiders might win this game. Debut of Quinn and Williams. This is the type of game the Raiders find a way to win, facts.

I don't know about you. You got any first touchdown, anytime touchdown scores? Probably just so, because I'm playing Reed. So I just want Ashton Genty to have a pretty big game. And you want George Pickens to not have a good game? That's hate. It is hate. Raiders are getting three and a half points.

total is 49 and a half. It's going to be a good one. You hang that hook. This isn't a viral moment, but this is something we could think about going to. Yeah. And I have a built-in excuse for the wives. A strip club in Charlotte gets Charlotte's first Michelin Star for their wings. What's it called?

The men's club of Charlotte. Really? Michelin Star. Yes. That means the wings are fire. Better. in Magic City. Hey, you know, I never did get that motorcycle jacket in the mail from Mr. Magic.

I got to hit him up. They got you. But no, they didn't get me. They just didn't have it in my size. I got to get that motorcycle jacket, though. But yeah, strip club wins Charlotte's first Michelin' star, man. And I'm, I'm thinking. Like of all restaurants or all strip clubs?

Look, this is not a bad place. Look at this. Have you ever heard of the Crystal City restaurant? No. There's a place in northern Virginia or like that people live in D.C. go up there and they say it's like a strip club and you eat like sushi in there. Not my thing. Let me just say. Sushi you're like people.

You don't go to strip clubs for the fish. Sushi is sushi, baby. That's baked into the observation. They also have steak and all this shit. Supposedly it's a really good restaurant. But I'm like, I could just never be like, yeah, like let me get six ounces of salmon. Like what? You're crazy, dude.

No way. They don't serve oysters in there. I'll tell you how much. They don't want that. Oh, yeah. That is a good, um, someone in the chat. We got to go. Yeah, we got to go.

Yeah, it's a three hour, 40 minutes show. But, hey, you say what you call it. I think this is a cowboy spot tonight. You do? Because it's what you're called emotional. It's the first game since Buddy passed away. Oh, yeah, you're right. And Quinn and Quinn Williams' first game.

Yeah, it is. Yeah. So maybe that, that's always weird in the building. Well, I'm not going to argue with that. It is going to be emotional. But I do feel like the Raiders match up okay. All right. Y'all take care.