Green Light with Chris Long - Eli Manning! Talks Manning Cast, Retirement & NY Giants. NFL Trades & NBA City Jersey Draft.

Episode Date: November 3, 2021

(2:16) - Hello, Layup Line, Macon's Connection to Jeff Banks and the Pole Assassin/Pet Monkey/Halloween Story, NFL Trade Deadline and Macon Tries to Facilitate NFL Trade. (41:41) - Eli Manning on ESPN's Manning Cast, Working with Peyton, Manning Cast Apologies, Peyton's Long Voice Notes, Watching the Giants, Interacting with the Media and Life as a Media Member. (1:29:43) - Chris and Macon Draft Their Favorite NBA 75th Anniversary City Edition Uniforms. Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 NBA 75th Anniversary City Uniforms: https://news.nike.com/news/nike-nba-75th-league-anniversary-city-edition-uniforms-official-images Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Stripper. Pole assassin. Pole assassin. You've got a monkey that bit a kid on Halloween. Correct. And he's got a Texas football coach. That's all right. You texted me and said, I know the guy.

I have a statement. Are you ready? Yeah. May, good to have you back from your hiatus. Hey, it's great to be back, man. Thanks. Oh my God. Listen to him playing up his I'm sick accent.

My left foot. This is how I sound. Dude, five minutes ago before you, you just plugged your nose, bro. No. The people at home know you're playing hurt, bro. I told him you had the sniffles. Quite the opposite. I know.

I left you a voice note. I hope it. You did. It made the show. It made the show. Nah, this is like as clear as I can get the sinuses at the moment. Well, damn, you need a netty pot. Yeah.

Some shit like that. You know what I realized. We're not doctors. 35 years old, I have not figured out how to kick the common cold in these 35 years. I've got no plan when the cold hits. No plan. Not at all. I'm Googling.

Air, airborne. Best over the counter cold remedies. There's no such thing. The big business of fighting colds is, like totally, hey, here's how you fight a cold. Get some rest. Not everybody can do that, but if you can, get some rest. Yeah, yeah, nine-month-old day of the year. Today we have Eli Manning. That's probably why he came in. Well, for sure. We're going to talk to Eli in a few. Talk about the Manning cast, talk about little football, little Danny Dimes and what he saw from the

Giants. We'll talk about that game in a little bit. Balls. And then also, yeah, we're going to talk about balls. And we'll draft NBA Unis, the 75th Anniversary City Edition. Oh, that sounds like a good time. Are out. Make sure you have your computer out so you can look at the uniforms and follow along with us when we get there. Danbury, Connecticut. Hello. Connecticut.

Why? Felt like we hadn't been to Connecticut in a while, maybe not ever. Connecticut doesn't really roll off the tongue, but I feel if I'm all in my head like this. All right. Do a Connecticut association game. First thing comes to mine. ESPN. Okay.

a dog because of the Huskies, but then Bob Diaco. Nice. Yeah, dude. Bob Diaco, he was fresh in the Yukon gear. Red pants. Red pants. Yeah, it's Bob DiLfitting. Yeah.

And then after that, I don't think about a lot. Maybe Dan Orlovsky? I think about... Our guy, Darius Butler, for sure. Yeah. He's the best. Think about Greenwich. Yeah, Greenwich.

About folks with diverse portfolios. Point being, if you're from Connecticut, we're talking about you. Soke it up. Connect, I cut. That's how you speak. Spell it. Yeah, it's got a mnemonic. Yeah, yeah. My layup line, November rain.

It's November? Look outside, motherfucker. I'm damn. Yeah. I love fall. Use your illusion. We're past Halloween. Guns and roses. My kids have played Paradise City and Welcome to the Jungle to Death. I mean, like, I don't like the songs anymore, and that's tough. So I'm glad they don't tend to ask me to play November rain a lot because that is one of the top three

guns and roses songs of all time maybe one where do you rank it make oh gosh for me November rain is seven seven give me the six head of November right yeah so what you're asking for are my top six guns and roses songs before before November rain do you can you name any others without looking at the yes okay I think I could have named two okay sweet child of mine and in paradise city I think are the two I could have named okay cool okay but no my uh my top seven it It starts with Rocket Queen and then it's Civil War and then it's yesterdays. And then Locomotive and then Don't Cry and then Patience and then No. Patience is way too low for patience is is is is a patience.

November rain and in Civil War for me at least unless I'm forgetting. I just hit like three or four your top seven you really and I was just pulling him out of a here's the deal man. Digital hat. Here is the deal, man. Last night, before we get into the trade deadline and football stuff, you texted me, are you aware of the monkey story? And I said, I have no idea what you're talking about.

And then I looked online. Here are the things that I associate with this story. Stripper with a name, interesting name. Correct. Poll something. Pole assassin. Pole assassin. You've got a monkey that bit a kid on Halloween.

Correct. And you've got a Texas football coach. That's all right. And you texted me and said, I know the guy. I have a statement. You have a statement to make because last night we teased this. You've got some inside info on Jeff Banks.

Who's winning or losing the internet right now, depending on how you look at it. Losing. Losing. He's the main character. Are you ready? Yeah. I have a policy,

a personal policy whereby I do not discuss clients past or present, perhaps to my detriment, because friends will close on a new home and learn that I haven't shouted the transaction from the mountain tops and take offense. Well, it's your business, beloved clients. Not anybody else is. And I'm not going to discuss,

and I'm not going to leave that in. Leave that in. And I'm not going to discuss it with a soul unless I'm asked to do so. There's one exception to this rule. If you are a client of mine, Pastor Present, and you leave your family for a stripper named Pole Assassin who has a pet monkey who violently attacks a child on Halloween, I might discuss our dealings in public.

That seems fair. I had the honor of representing Jeff Banks in his nine-day search for real estate in Central Virginia. That's amazing. The man took the special team's job at the University of Virginia for nine days before resigning and taking the same job at Texas A&M under Kevin Sumlin. So as an agent and representative of Jeff Banks,

I feel qualified to comment on this story, is Jeff Banks a man who took a job and left said job in the span of nine days capable of. of making impulsive decisions? Answers yes. Absolutely, dude. Is the man capable of making good decisions like say using Virginia as a stepping stone

from U-TEP to Texas A&M in less than a fortnight? Or finding love with an exotic dancer named pole assassin? Answer is yes. Is the man capable of burning bridges like not informing his real estate agent that he wouldn't be making an appointment because he was halfway to college station Texas or allowing a monkey to bite a trick-or-treater

at a time when you're being considered for jobs such as the big whistle at Wazoo. Answers yes. So that's my statement regarding Jeff Banks. Not shocked. This is exactly how you thought Jeff. The next time you heard about Jeff Banks would be something like this. He was in the running for a big job. Yeah, Wazoo, head coach.

Was pole assassin on Jerry Springer too? Oh my God, a cherry on top of this motherfucker. Yep. Yep. Pole assassin looks younger than our friend Jeff Banks. Yeah, and the monkey apparently. worked with Pole Assassin in her act.

No way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh my God. So yes, if that wasn't made clear, the monkey belongs to Pole Assassin and Jeff Banks. So the monkey was like, you know, yeah, I got to, we. And once I tweeted that,

that I had ties to the monkey story, she deleted her account. No, no, you really think that was related to you? To my tweet? No, I don't. Oh, okay. But she had just, just posted a video of their home

and where the monkey was located. There was a very fresh do not enter sign. Who knows when it was posted on the monkey enclosure? Well, I just want to say, man, this guy, Jeff Banks, he didn't kill anybody. Right? You know, he got a, he got a,

at the time he thought it was a better job. He skated. Okay. Glad it wasn't my kid getting bit by a monkey on Halloween. I know it's been some years, but could have been Charlottesville. It could have been one of my kids. Our thoughts are with a kid. Our thoughts are with the kid. That's the center of this story for me.

But if you take a moment to think about the whole picture, what did Jeff Banks really do this so abhorrent? Monkeys are, you can have monkeys, yeah? Right. Families can break up. Strippers. You can date strippers. Right.

I think everybody here is just, it's unfortunate. It's an unfortunate situation. My thoughts and prayers are with Jeff Banks, but more so with the kid. The lead for me, especially as someone who's just, well, currently, frankly, struggling with a Twitter handle. To go out for the name

Pole Assassin, to find the name Pole Assassin is remarkable. Yeah. Is she on YouTube? What's she doing to the poll? Assassinating it. Pole Assassin. Pole Assassin, Texas.

Again, nothing really that Jeff Banks did that's a fireable offense. People were tweeting out that he was in, and he was, Jeff Banks was in contention for this job. Nothing he's doing, this is America. Okay. What is he, what do he do?

They might not have had the right monkey enclosure, but the Kirby enthusiasm thing the other night, like it was kind of like that with the pool. It's like that with, uh, yeah, you didn't have the fence around the pool. Larry David didn't know. So you're, Jeff Banks didn't know.

You're the AD at Washington State. Yeah. Jeff Banks is most qualified for the job. You're still giving Jeff Banks the job. Yes. And, and welcoming Mrs. Pole Assassin to the Paloose? I stand by Jeff Banks.

Okay. I stand by Jeff Banks. Mrs. Polar Assassin is good for recruiting. Yeah. And Jeff Banks now has name recognition. Not many people knew them. This is marketing. If facts were in here, we'd say it was marketing.

Dude, you really got to think about it. You do? No, that's what facts would say. And I, uh, and I, I, I think we have. Um, do you have any questions for me as a representative of Jeff Banks? Well, yeah, what kind of home was he looking at? Oh, I'm not going to disclose, yeah, specifics. You're really like you're being that guy.

Well, I'm also being that guy whose memory isn't so hot from like 12 years ago. So basically you represented Jeff Banks. You're not willing to tell us anything about it. So this is a me story. It's not about Jeff Banks. Oh, it's all about me. Have you not realized that yet in our 25 years? Give us a nugget, bro.

Give us one fact about Jeff Banks to the public. might not know. Good punctuation in emails. Really? Yeah. Solid. Totally. Anybody with good punctuation and emails is hiding something like a stripper girlfriend. Hey. Easy. Exactly. But there's nothing nothing to hide. That's the point. But he did, he ghosted. It wasn't

Hey, by the way, you might have seen I took another job. That's the worst thing he's done is ghosted. I'd read about it. He and I. Now he might not get the Washington State job. Had an implied agency going on and he didn't take the time to inform me. It's incredible. It's incredible that you know Jeff Banks.

Yeah. The man who, who's the main character on the internet today. And maybe shouldn't be. Quite frankly, there's plenty else to talk about, but we're talking about Jeff Banks. Should be poll assassin.

America, folks. Yeah, it should be. You know, also real quick. But dark. Didn't see a sticker on your shirt. Did you have a sticker on your shirt somewhere? Yeah,

I had a sticker on my shirt from middle of last week. Says I voted. Because I wanted to be sure. I was part of the late, the late rush. You know what I mean? Yeah. I don't want to be a part.

Yeah. day of guy. Yeah. Okay, good. We both voted. I got that. We got that. I just want to make sure.

Very much voted. I was going to kick you out of the building. Go do it. Hey, Vaughn Miller started this whole frenzy. Von Miller traded to the, uh, what? Well, frenzy's strong. It seems like we're, uh, we're, we're, we're puttering out here on this trade deadline.

Yeah, it's true. We're going to be talking about, uh, Melvin Ingram in a second. We're going to be talking about. We're going to talk about Mitch Trubisky, maybe talking to. the Washington football team. Oh yeah. No, but I got that

Von Miller notification yesterday and I was like, damn, dude, when you see ESPN send out a thing about Von Miller getting traded, that's a big deal, man. That guy had a Hall of Fame career in Denver alone. And who knows how long the next chapter is.

But, Reid, got to be tough for you. Yeah, yesterday was tough. I think it was early afternoon when that news came through and I was sad but I wish Bond nothing but the best. That's heartwarming. He gave me some great years of Super Bowl

some hope watching the Broncos and I could not be happier although I am sad now and it sucks that he has ruined my life now. Yeah, they were not watching him throughout the season but the Rams are my side team. Side team alert.

Side team alert. Y'all went through a lot Reed and Vaughn. So touching, it was touching yesterday that tweet by you. Broncos fans got to be, got to be bummed. But if you look at this thing like pragmatically, you've got two picks out of this thing. You save $10 million, like immediately.

And that's the hard part of this business is. As a Denver fan, you're hoping he's happy, but you're hoping he doesn't make you look like a total idiot. You know, like maybe 10 sacks a year would be good, but not 15. And I'll like, right, Reid? No, as many buckets as he won't.

Okay, good. He gets as many buckets because I don't think we play him. But if he wins a Super Bowl, it's fine by me. Okay, good. All right, cool. We're Broncos fans are officially rooting for Vaughn. Listen, I don't think this is a bad, a bad trade for either team. These two teams are in totally different, you know, places.

The Rams are all in on winning, and this tells you it, All out on the NFL draft. They're all out on the NFL draft, and they have been. They just keep like, I don't know if there's some like economic kind of metaphor here, but they just keep punting. They just keep punting on the draft. Somebody else's problem. We'll catch up with you all later.

We'll pay these debts later. But I'm looking at them and I'm saying this does make them even more of a contender. I think a lot of times you do the sexy thing. You try to fill a need and maybe you overextend yourself to do it. Obviously, they don't care about overextending themselves, but this is a move that can really help them. It really, Aaron Donald has missed Michael Brockers. You know, like, it helps to have a guy like that.

Now, we're not talking about a detackle. We're talking about an edge rusher. So I don't mean that he's going to get something out of Vaughn that he didn't get out of Brock, but not just the Hall of Famer just lined up next to me. Like, it's like one of these fantasy cartoons where like, what if Von Miller and Aaron Donald? Like, this is what's really going to happen on Sundays.

But also it just adds depth to their unit. And he's a veteran. They're not going to want him to play 50 plays a game. I think he's going to embrace whatever role it is he's going to play in, in, uh, in L.A. I think it's probably a relief for Vaughn not to be expected to be Superman every Sunday. Like he's going to be Superman anyways, but Aaron Donald is Superman.

He doesn't have to strain to do that as he gets up there around 30 and he's coming off of injuries and that sort of thing. And another thing is this. Von Miller has never played a home game on artificial turf. And I was tweeting about that yesterday. A lot of people were like, and there's making coughing. A lot of people were like, thanks for being here, man. A lot of people were like, what difference does it make turf and no turf?

And then Mitchell Schwartz chimed in and was like, too, it makes a big difference. He can remember immediately when Joey Bosa went to, down to LA and he had to play him there. The dig in, like, on your power stuff, the get off, the start to stop stuff. I watch Robert Quinn run sideways on the outside of his foot for years in St. Louis. And it was just different at home. You know, like it's just different at home.

If you're a speed player who can really, like he has an unfair bend at the top of the rush anyways, his cleats are going to stick in the ground so well in L.A. I'm excited to watch that. I'm also excited to see that he's going to be able to create. eight opportunities for AD. AD doesn't play off of people a lot. Like, again, this is good for both of them. There's going to be times where Von wins inside, and AD can keep his rush going outside and cover him. And then another thing he does is he demands a lot of respect from tackles from a spacing standpoint. And Aaron,

who deals with the whole thing anyways, Aaron is going to have a little bit more breathing room in the B gap. So this is huge for the Rams and you got to win or else you're going to look silly, but that's football, man. Like you've got an opportunity. You have a window. When you have a window, you try to jump through it. Only problem that I can see is Von Miller started seven games the past two years. That's the problem.

And that's the only risk there is here is injury. And that's what I'm saying, though. Like they take care of you. I don't know how Fangio does in Denver, but Shaw McVeigh, when I heard like the way they practice up there. They really take care of vats. I don't know that Andrew Whitworth practices a lot. He's headed it. He said it openly here. So not

only getting the advantage on game day on turf and rushing next to the greatest that ever did it before it's all said and done, as far as interior past rush is concerned, being opposite Leonard Floyd, they can line these guys up in

like a 40 alignment, which means like Aaron Donald can kick all the way out next to Von Miller. They can mix it up. They can overload one side with those three guys. Like, it's going to be scary. It's going to be fun. Another thing is, the weather's nice. So if he does practice, you feel great all year around. That's real stuff. I think Vaughn gets a little bit more longevity out of this move. And I think he gets a better football fit and a little bit of the pressure is relief. Hey, Denver's got Chubb and I really like him. I know he's had injury issues, but you guys will be okay.

be right um Leonard floyd 20 20 he had 10 and a half sacks his highest sack total dante fowler in 2019 rushing with aaron donald 11 and a half his highest sack total i had my lowest yeah because i was hurt but but i was like damn dude fuck i wish i was healthy next to that motherfucker he just makes he makes kings out of people dude and i'm not saying that these guys aren't great rushers i really like fowler um i i still like fowler i wish somebody could could get the best out of him. I really liked Leonard Floyd as well in Chicago. So I'm glad that, you know, all these

rushers are there together and it's about rotation. Uh, you know, he's going to get more of a rest there too. Less pressure on him. Less need. Going, uh, Randy Marsh, wheelbarrow, like big wheelbarrow energy. So hopefully everybody wins. Hey, more pass rush news.

Melvin Ingram, who I really like. And Melvin Ingram has had a great career. Really, really. springy rusher in L.A. He hasn't quite looked the same. I think he picked a bad number in Pittsburgh. Hostage situation. Well, that's what Mike Tomlin says. Mike Tomlin, by the way, shipped him

to Kansas City. Kansas City will get to that in a second. They really need to help. But I think he picked a bad number. It's not becoming of him like a single digit number. So Tomlin said he'd rather have volunteers than hostages, which is an interesting quote of what's he got against hostages.

I don't know. But I actually think what he's saying is right. But like it's a business. At the end of the day, he doesn't need to drag him down, but if you don't want to be here, you can go there where you can help somebody and we can get something for it. So Melvin Ingram, I think is going to help Kansas City. It sounds like he was in sort of predicament there in Pittsburgh. He wasn't getting along with Mike, maybe. Maybe it just wasn't working out for him. He's played, but he just hasn't been productive. I think this is going to help Kansas City because they've had, like we've talked about, they've had their best players strained, playing different

places that that pass rush unit closed the game out last night our last night against the giants. I think help is on the way. I don't know if they can get out of that hole as a team, but they need help up front. Yeah, I don't hate that. I don't hate it at all. Hey, Saints are looking for a wide receiver. What say you? Alan Robinson. Before Odell? Oh, yes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I worry about Odell. Well, listen, I don't know how, I'm not going to blame it on Odell because Baker. creates a circus of his own. Like, I think last night he was posting disingenuous bar graphs. He's making news that way.

Odell's dad is calling out Baker. What's his name? I don't know. I should know, huh? Because he's Shaq's friend. I think you should know. Yeah. Just think about it for a second.

What would Odell Beckham Jr's dad? Oh, Odell Beckham. There you go. There you go. Sorry. Sorry. I dropped the JR. The big Odell Beckham Senior

I'm just trying to get through all these frenzy of trades That's right So I have Odell Beckham Senior Has been you know putting out social media stuff About you know Baker's dragging my son down And that might be true right now

I don't know the guys hurt Maybe they've never had the connection I mean one target's not enough But either way It's amazing to me how such a Rust Belt City became like Dallas Like this is a first take city now How did Cleveland become a first take city?

Bad football team, right? Not a huge market. I mean, there's a market, but, and it's all we're talking about. It's incredible how quickly this thing is blowing up. And I hate that for some of the players there because I really like them. I like, you know, obviously Miles is my guy. Stefansky is a coach who I really like you. By the way, is having a tough year.

I was looking at these coach of the years over the year because obviously he won. last year, 2018, Matt and Aggie coach of the year. Not doing so hot now. 2001,

Dick Geron. Dick Geron, 2001. Next year he was 4 and 12. What are you laughing at? Well. He loves his name, Dick Geron.

No, no, no, no. Dick Geron. I liked Dick Geron. Hey, knock, knock. Who's there?

Dick. Dick who? Dick Geron. Okay, we're good. But I worry about Stefansky because it's like I think you get lowed to sleep and think, you know, this guy was best thing since sliced bread. You beat the Steelers in the in the playoffs.

But a lot rides on how this quarterback plays, a lot rides on how this Adele thing works out as far as the team chemistry and the rest of the year. It's almost four o'clock. now and we got no Adele news it's kind of it feels over in Cleveland

like it feels like with the schedule the rest of the year with all this bullshit going on guys making news through the week and there's nothing wrong

with making news through the week but when you make the news like then people are going to talk about it you know it looks kind of overish there

they've lost three or four they have good uniforms that's why we're back that's why we're paying attention Bebble Conway Sunday. Lastly, Jalen Smith got cut today in Green Bay. Short stint. Short stint.

He looks, I'm not being funny, nothing. He just looks a little stiff. Like, you know, I used to really like the kid. I mean, I hope he lands on his feet. I feel like he's got to really work on like rushing the passer or something because his skill set sideline to sideline doesn't look the same as it did early in Dallas. I know he's been through injuries. and Green Bay just might be

it might be not a fit for them but they're probably telling us something right and we should probably listen they might be making room for somebody and you had you you had an idea oh I had Montez sweat going from the football team to the Packers

in exchange for Jordan Love I can't see how this is a bad trade for anybody you said maybe we come up with trades last night and this popped in my head this is a really good one And it's like a good player for player trade.

The money, the money works nearly, nearly works. Are you going to be, are you going to be reupping a guy who never took his snap in like two years? That quarterback. No, not with Aaron Rogers playing the way he's playing. The cowboy tells us we, we've got Mitchell Tribiskey flirting with the football team. Mitchell Tribesky's flirting with the football team, but I like, you know, like he's a known commodity. You know where his ceiling is. We have no idea with Jordan Love.

No idea. Maybe they know something we don't. Maybe they crunch preseason tape really well. But I kind of like that. I like that trade a lot. Somebody called the fucking football team. We've got 10 minutes. Call them.

I will. I will. They've got to make this trade right now. We're calling the Washington football team. If you know your party's extension, please press one. Wait while I transfer your call. Damn, they have a really cool. Wow.

This is awesome. Stay on hold. Can you put me back on hold? A question of a football team. This is at the sales office. Ask them to put you back. Hey there. 353.

So not a lot of time here. Let's trade Montez Sweat to Green Bay for Jordan Love. Can probably get a late round pick as well. What do you think? That would be terrific. Can we do a three-way call? You might want some sweets. Okay.

Do you want to make the call? You want to get off this call and then make the call to Green Bay? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Are there any suites available? Do you have any sweets? All of them. All of them? What about field level, field level? Like the one in Vegas.

Ask them about field level sweet. Is that it? No, no, I'm just pondering. Do you have any field level type suites like the ones in Vegas at Allegiant Stadium? Are there any seats underneath those tarps in the upper deck? Okay. All right. Okay. And sweat for love. is a go? You're saying it's a go. We're just up against the clock.

He needs to go. He needs to call. Okay. I haven't had the chance to make the call. Okay. Okay. Okay. Will you call me back?

Okay. All right. Thank you. Good job. Take care. Hey, take care. Oh. Oh, shit.

Thanks. You too. He handled it really well. It was like he knew he was on the podcast. Yeah. He really schooled you. It's, they probably get worse phone calls to that number. You know what I'm saying?

You know, the whole dysfunctional organization. Yeah, that guy was like, oh, this is a cakewalk. Yeah. You're not calling to complain about racism or misogyny. You just want Jordan Love? Sure, let me call the Packers personally. Let me walk to Green Bay. Can I get your phone and have them talking to each other?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes, yes, yes. Yeah, let me call the, is this the Packers? I got to call the Packers. I got to call the Packers? Yeah, you call the Packers. Start the call to the football team. Representative. What?

They're talking to Washington. Oh, you guys are missing out on an opportunity of a lifetime. You're missing on a Montez's sweat. We got to give this a second. Fucking publicly owned team. That's why. Who do you talk to when you want to get something done and nobody owns the fucking team? It's the only go to Graham at the 4.

Graham to the 10. Graham to the 15. Through a hold of the 20 and down at the 21-yard line. It's the only place Washington's beating Green Bay is on the hold. The music on the hold. They got play by... Come on. And I think everybody starts to feel a little better now.

You have a little contact on the beach. I'll tell you, Jim, that's all you need. You get on that field. Hips the ground a couple of times and you're ready to play. The guy who feels best... What is this guy talking about? Knife and through the blockers, attacking the wedge and making the play. A wedge.

That's an old call. A lot of people are buying tickets. I want to see John's face right now. He's just like, what the fuck are they doing? Sarah, quick, I want to speak to Tom Fawning. Is that your phone ringing? What the fuck? We got to call West Coast team and be like,

and they're going to be like the trade deadline is passed. And we're like, no, you have till 4 o'clock. Let's the West Coast team that we just want to fuck with. listen subpar experience calling the packers yeah football team looking not bad yeah dude hey it's the problem with a publicly owned company or like a publicly owned team like that you call who the fuck do you talk to where's the boss yeah you know what I mean like just got me on hold listen to play by play guy talking about the wedge it's like 10 year old play by play they have on the hold like Washington sounds like you're going to the dopest

Studio 54 lobby, which it's not so good actually that it sounds that way. They should probably tone down the whole music a little bit. Maybe something more respectful. I don't know. Start to finish. Something more apologetic for the last

25 to 30 years of existence. It should be like the Fox injury soundtrack when they go to break. Uh-huh. That's what the Washington football team's old should be. Instead, they have like you're walking into you know a Steve Jobs party right back in the

he probably threw some good parties um all right the cowboy can probably put this in yeah that needs to be Washington football teams it's like we're sorry and this is sad it's it's I'm sorry you're calling us you must have no life

why do you root for this team LDT just got traded to the Jets he hadn't played since 2019, I guess. Yeah. Busy saving lives. Good for him. Good for you.

Good for you. Good for you. Yeah. And then lastly, I mean, you know, Adrian Peterson, well, by the way, Deshawn Watson not going anywhere. Dolphins owner said he didn't want to pursue Deshawn before the court stuff settled, I guess Stephen Ross said. So I think they were rushing to settle everything

and then they couldn't get it done. That would be my read on the situation. And then when they got it done, maybe you thought the Texans said The internet says Deshawn and his reps were in the process of getting it done and then the Texans said the price just went up

Price went up and the dolphin said all righty Well We do have an AP AD sorry I call him AP All day most people call him AD It's very confusing It is fucking confusing Titans got

Adrian Peterson and so that that popped up a day or two ago for today. Yesterday, I believe. That was in the beginning of the frenzy. He's got 500 yards until he passes Barry Sanders fourth all time.

So that's going to be an interesting thing. You think he gets it this year? 500. Or like week nine of what feels like 50. I think he comes up just short. I think it's possible because they have A.J. Brown.

I'll say no. Okay. I'll say no. I think he ends up with 400 yards there over the next Oh, eight games. Yeah, I'll give it to him. I'll say yes. But is he RB1? Really?

I don't know. I'm just having fun here. It's a name, trade deadline. Like, aren't they really good young? Sure. Let me ask you, do you remember the last four teams Adrian Peterson was on? There were four since Minnesota. Answer's no. There was the football team.

Yep. I'm not looking. I'm not looking it up. I'm just looking at teams. Okay. Adrian Peterson played for the football team, the lions. The lions.

And here's one. You're not going to remember the saints. Yeah, the saints. He was on the Saints for a little bit. And the Cardinals. So yeah, he's got a new number to pick.

What do you think he goes with in Tennessee? Oh, well, I don't know about that. I know what he should go with. What's that? And that's the number 32, which is available in Tennessee.

Yeah, it's not bad. Marcus Allen, Jim Brown. That'll work. That'll work. 13's available as well if you wanted to go fun. Hey, real quick on Giants Chiefs, you guys almost, you almost won that game. Yep. Don't know why you would, but you almost won it.

And Mahomes was off for sure. That first pick was kind of the problem. It's not that he's like playing just terrible. The ball placements off. And I wonder if he's hurt. Like I really do. You know, he just had what might have been a concussion a couple weeks ago. He cleared, you know, last night he came up limp on a scramble late in the game.

Like, and they were talking about something else on the broadcast, on the Reggie cast. They were talking about something else. No disrespect. It's regular cast and this Manning cast. They're both awesome. Like, I think it's really about, and let me be a first take guy for a second, like, it's not about the accuracy, it's about the audacity of these throws. How's that?

You think I'd go be on TV with something, if I said something like that? Yeah, it's good. The audacity of these fucking throws, the throw in the red zone, there's three chiefs around, and none of them know who's catching the ball. Like, he's off schedule just like, there it is. There's a six inch window. Let me rifle this fucking football in there.

Doink. Yeah, and dude in front of number one is like, yeah, maybe this is coming to me. Number one, it hits him right in the helmet. Jerich McKinnon doesn't know the ball is coming to him. It just hits him in the fucking helmet, because that thing is on a frozen rope right at him, but there's three guys in a five foot area.

So I think sometimes is Patrick getting frustrated? They ran too deep. It's like you knew it was coming. They ran it and they couldn't beat it. There was more gap scheme run. That was good. I think if they commit to running the football, they'd be a good idea.

But they're just off, dude. I worry more about the near pick to Bradbury than that first throw. I worry more about the free play that he played off. Like it was a free play. I don't think he knew it was a free play. His eyes did go right to the sideline. So there's a chance.

Maybe, maybe, maybe. He's got some incredible vision because when they showed it, he definitely sold it. He sold the free play. But I don't know for sure that that that wasn't a throw he was just making anyways. He'll be okay, man. I really do believe that he's just off right now. I mean, the one thing, he took a sack in the red zone that I was like,

hey, there we go. You know, like sometimes and Lewis Riddick, pointed this out. Sometimes that's like the best thing you could possibly see a guy like Patrick do because he's frustrated for good reasons. Doubling Tyreek and Kelsey. Take them away. Right.

Throw it to number one. Right. Run the ball. Run the ball. Hey, your guy Joe Judge blaming the headsets. Also end of the half, three penalties and a timeout and then like a kneel down. That two minute drill was like

stuff of legend. That giant two-minute drill. I was thinking about you the whole time before the half. And at the end of the game, you take the time out on the other side of the two-minute warning because Kansas City could throw the ball. Maybe Joe Judge could hire you to be his like clock management. Yeah. I don't know if I want to be tied to the whole

Gettlement era. I might be out of a job pretty quickly. Well, uh, although if you coach one time in the NFL, you have a job for life. So yeah, I will be accepting. Yeah, you and Joe Judge would get along well. I think Joe judge is a cool guy. Eli Manning is a cool guy and he knows what's going on in New York. Will he tell us?

We'll see. He's really sharp with the media. Now he's the media, so he'll only get sharper. We'll see what we can get out of him. Eli Manning. If you're in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, Tennessee, or Virginia, and you haven't yet tried the Winbet app, I've got great news for you. Winbet is now offering a 200% wager match for new users up to,

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I don't know. Two of them. Two of them. Yeah, double. Double bird. Yeah, thanks. Yeah, thanks. I had to apologize at the national TV for giving the bird, so I appreciate that.

Philly brings out the best in you, man. It was funny because, number one, I want to apologize. Now, I want to turn around and give you an apology because I laugh through your apology, which was very sincere. Very sincere. It was very sincere. I felt very bad. You could take this opportunity to sincerely apologize to the people, if you like.

Or we can just move right on. No, but here's the funniest shit. Eli, I was sitting there, and the first time you did it, I didn't see it because I was kind of focused on the game and everything. So I wasn't really like up to speed on what was going on until the second time you really leaned into the birds, bro.

And I was like, this is incredible. This is like a new. And why does Peyton keep doing the apologies, man? Peyton did an apology the other night for Marchand saying, fuck, on the show. Is he like the apology guy now? Yeah, I mean, I guess they didn't

like mine after I made my mistake. They thought mine wasn't legit enough. And so Peyton, you know, we weren't that asked Marchand to apologize. No. So that would not have gone well. So I think Peyton, you know, we're just kind of rotating back and forth. you know we were averaging like an apology a game which is not not good i thought you know it's

like oh good you know pay might go full frontal or something last week and have to apologize for that thank goodness he did it but uh you know so i think uh yeah uh they thought i wasn't very good at apologizing so Peyton's kind of taken over that role which i'm fine with he like cussed you out after after you did the because he texted me after the show he's like great show whatever because he's being cool and everything. And I was like, man, Eli's a legend for that. He didn't say anything back. Were you in the doghouse of Payton?

No, no. He loved it. I mean, he totally set me up. He's heard me tell that story. Like, and he brings it up. And like, you know, he wanted to, he wanted me to do that. So what I learned, though, and this is, this is good to know is that as long as I was telling a story in context, it was okay.

That was a fan doing. that to me, it's okay to kind of say that. It's better. It's better that you can do it. You're a colorful storyteller, man. That opens up so many more stories that you can tell now. I mean, you just say, hey, it's not me doing it. I'm this acting of what I see every time I go to Philly.

That's just how they say hello. Yeah. You know, in the vet. What did you think about Tennessee throwing? Philly gets a lot of grief, but Tennessee was awful, classless over there at Neelie. stadium a couple weeks ago. That's your brother's alma mater. I feel like they deserve more heat. Philly a little less maybe. I don't think Philly's thrown an object on the field in years. Yeah, you know, I kind of thought I, in some of our little like semi-production meetings,

I brought that up. And, uh, and Peyton was not a big fan of responding to that. You know, he had his answer ready. If it just happened, you never know. It's like, uh, you know, I'd rather not bring that up. I said, all right, we'll see. You know, if you, you know, you got to be careful what you say. If you kind of, you know, take a shot at me, it might come out. So he just did not bring up the game at all. I tried to like really, you know, not talk too much of why he was wearing the Ole Miss

Jersey. You guys do a great job. And by the way, like when you guys had me on, y'all had me on for the practice run, a little little behind the scenes story for you here. I had, like, when I heard y'all wanted me on as some practice thing, I didn't think it going to be so bells and whistles i didn't know it was going to have like a feet of the game and y'all's two heads there stacked together like i didn't get much information bro but when y'all came calling i was like whatever i can do for these guys um but what had happened was i had forgotten i got stoned at about

six o'clock in the afternoon and then i got my alarm goes off and it's like manning cast so so i was like not in the in the best state of mine and you guys were calling a mock broadcast over a lion's preseason game and I'm like it the thing comes on and they got the two heads stacked and they have the live action I'm like holy shit I made a miscalculation did I do okay on the practice thing because you guys called me back yeah you did great you did great you told great you know I think the whole you know you want to have good stories you want to have stories and and like you know you're not we're not analyzing that much that much football and it's more you know kind of inside stories you're great just talking about like the D-line meetings and like basically the the

the lack of meeting that happens during a meeting and so that's you know obviously that's what we're looking for just personality, good stories, high energy and that's what you brought.

I'm really glad. I'm really glad to be caught. You should have done that for the real thing. It's on the same exact routine. Eli wants me to smoke the devil's lettuce before the next manning's cast. I think Marshawn was.

Marshawn was probably on the devil's lettuce and has you had your shot of Hennessy yet? Not yet. I wait till right after. Little bro hasn't had his shot of Hennison. Why is it Monday night football with Peyton and Eli? Because Peyton and Eli doesn't roll off the tongue like Eli and Peyton. No, yeah, I like that.

Monday night football with Eli and Peyton. And why is Peyton up top? We can say seniority, but that's a form of ageism too. That's what I'm saying, dude. Eli and Peyton, can we ask that question? You can ask. Yeah, I mean, I think it's one of those things like I just, I don't care. like that kind of stuff like the little little things like that like i do not care whatsoever

Peyton probably has some sort of preference whether he told them i wanted to be called Peyton Eli i'll never know and no one will tell me that but like that's kind of the way he would roll like he might he might go that way or like you know he would want to see the design of like hey i want to see the full introduction i want to see what the promotion is i might want to adjust some things. I don't like that shirt I'm wearing where I'm just like, you know, yeah, yeah, sounds good. Like, don't bother me with that stuff. I don't care. Like, I'm, you know, let's let's, I don't sweat the small stuff. You don't do you. You don't do you. You all have a different style when you're prepping for a show, huh? Just like you would like prepping for a game or that

sort of thing. Like take us under the hood with the production process. What's something that might surprise us. Yeah. You know, I think it's like, you know, the preparation is there. It's just like the little small things. It's like, you know, hey, I'm watching the film on both sides. I have my notes. I have like the plays I really like and I have a theme that I see that I, you know, that I might want to get to in the show and just like Peyton. But like I kind of, you know, he's big and we talked about a little bit late last night at the game. Payton is big on these voice memos. And so like, which is is a recording on your phone that instead of leaving a voicemail, you can just leave a voice memo and then text to somebody, basically. And so like,

I get the voice memo, and it's to me and the producer and a few other guys, and it's like, all right, how long is this I'm going to be? And it's like, it's like 23 minutes. I'm like, geez, and Pete's. And he like goes through like 50 plays. He has more. Like play 26 from the Kansas City, Tennessee game. Like play 10, play 26. You know, he goes through, you know, next game, these, all these plays.

I'm like, Peyton, I'm not going back and watching these 30 specific plays. that you just told me about. Like, just give me a theme. Like, I'm not going, I mean, I might mention like three plays. And, like, you just, you know, don't, I mean, I'm going to go back and watch that game, but I can't look at your notes and then take my notes. Bro, I retired. You retired.

You don't need to be back in the meeting room. That sounds like a full, like, NFL experience. That sounds like what we didn't do in the D-Line room. Right. You know what I mean? You know, it's like, I'm doing it. It's just like, I mean, it's like, maybe six. that to the producers and like give me the cliff notes version. Maybe send a second, you know,

uh, so I don't have to listen to the whole thing because you might, you might, you might have a good point at like minute 19 of that that I do want to listen to, but I don't want, you know, the other you know, 20 minutes is on a waste of time. He needs to give you time stamps on those voice notes. And I too am a fan of voice notes, but 23 minutes is just obscene. Like that's just one. That's not like one for the week. That's just like on. Wednesday. There's 10 of these throughout the week. And so, yeah, we got to work on that, this time management. Like I'm like, you know, so I do it like if I'm, uh, just if I'm doing random things. A lot of the walking the dog. I'm like, all right, I'll listen to, I'll listen to Peyton,

uh, give us talk, you know, if I'm just, you know, driving to the car, just like, you know, just sitting at my desk, like read emails. It's just like playing on the side. Yeah. My wife walks in the house. She's like, are you, are you on the phone? I'm like, no. Peyton, boy. No, Peyton's talking. A hologram of Peyton is just harassing me in my house. But you, we were talking about this offline. After these deals, I remember as a player, after Monday night game,

where we rarely got to play on Monday night, we got to play y'all once on Monday night. So thank you for hosting us in St. Louis. But it's hard to go to sleep. It's hard to, like, settle down. People don't realize, like, a lot of times you'll be laying in bed at five in the morning, either thinking about mistakes you made or maybe you're hurting, that sort of thing.

Do you have a hard time winding down after these? Yeah, definitely. I mean, it's all of a sudden it's like 1145. And, you know, when you're calling those games, like you got your on. Like you, the camera's on you. You got to be thinking of questions. You're playing the game. You're kind of into it.

And so you're definitely jazzed up, you know, after the game. So, you know, usually like I usually don't go get in bed for like another hour. Hey, I'll take the dog for a walk. I'll just kind of make some notes of, you know, of, you know, things we can do for next week ideas that kind of popped up and just in calling a game and got to like go, I have like a list on my desk of like a few things. All right, I'm going to do this after the game and that'll help me wind down a little bit and then and then go to bed. I got some things that will help you wind down, Eli. Just, just like, hey, Eli, man, last night you're calling the Giants game. Is that harder for you?

like when you watch the Giants and you're not doing the Manning cast, are you loud? Are you like stressed? Like what's going on on Sunday? Yeah, I mean, it's one of those deals. Yeah.

You know, I probably would have had a few more like, God, come on. What? You know, just like kind of got a little more tense. I was like,

all right, I don't need to do that. Like, I don't want a reaction. You know, I try, you know, I'm going to always,

I'm going to, you know, kind of air on the side of being positive. I don't want to like take a shot at a guy. I don't want to all of a sudden be like, back guy around the Giants. You know, so I still see these guys some. I'm around in New York.

I like, I want to be involved and helpful to them and not a critic. And so, you know, I was just, you know, it's hard. When they're two and, you know, two and six, it's, you know, it's sometimes hard, hard to say, you know, find positive things to say. So I just kind of aired on the side of being quiet, you know, John Stewart's like taking shot. He's like, what? Oh, I saw that.

What? I'm like, uh, pay. Peyton, you take this answer. Please, get me out of this situation. That's a tough line to walk, though, when it comes to, like, calling games of your former team. Or, like, when I have to talk about the Eagles, like, a lot of the people listening right now, hi, guys, I know maybe you don't love the guest, but he's an awesome dude. You know, a lot of the people listening are Eagles fans, and I've had to, they're struggling right now.

So it's hard to talk about some of your former teammates, some of your former friends, still your friends. So it can be tough, and, like, you navigated that your whole career. I think you had, like, I feel like you know how to stay. stay out of making headlines in New York. What's the skill when it comes to telling the truth enough, but not making a headline? Because it's almost like how you construct your sentences, I feel like you get good at like the way you form your sentences so that they can't just put them in bold letters. Right.

I think, yeah, there's a couple, you know, a couple tricks is like you don't have to agree with their question. Sometimes they kind of are saying a statement and then, you know, whatever. Hey, the Giants aren't playing good football right now. you know, what do they have to do? And you don't have to say, that's right. You know, I kind of have my answer that I'm going to give before the question is asked, and I just kind of keep giving it.

And, you know, the media is smart. They're like, if they don't get what they want, they just ask kind of the same question, worded differently. And so you got to just give the same answer kind of just with a few different words, but not change your story, not, you know, don't get bored giving the same answer over. and over again. That's just kind of, you know, what it is. So you just got to get, you know, you got to go in saying, this is what I'm going to say and I'm going to stick to it. Yeah, like that was one of the biggest things like I remember in training camp, they used to

prep us to talk to the media. And they used to say, like, you don't have to answer their question, answer the question that you want answered. And that's really, nobody sees the question that's asked. Everybody reads the quote. So, you know, there's a way around that. And I think that's a really great piece of advice for players. The New York media is tough. Was there somebody that, I know I had these guys in Philly. I had these guys in St. Louis to a lesser degree, New England. We just didn't really talk to them a lot. But like, perfect. In Philly, there might be one or two guys that I was playing chess with. You know what I mean? Like a media guy that you're like, he's sharp. He's got me. He's trying to pin me down. He's doing a cat mouse game. He's doing his job. I respect it. But was there

guy in New York that you were like, oh, this guy's, this guy's tough. You know, I just feel like in New York, there's just so many of them. And they're all competing. They're all want to get that little special headline. And so it's like you do your little press conference and they're all 15 of them are standing around. It's like, as you're walking off, they're like, hey, I got a few like side questions, kind of my hidden questions.

I don't want these guys to hear it. I'm going to get, you know, kind of, you know, get my own. little story. And so you just, you know, that's where you just got to be really, really careful and just knowing that they're, they're coming after you. They're looking for a headline. They're looking for something. So, you know, you want to be friendly, you know, and I think that's, you know, part of you understand they do have a job. They do have to write something. They got, they, you know, and so I respect them from that sense. And, you know, I just, I never read, you know, I didn't read the articles. I didn't read the papers. My dad would do, you know, he would read it all.

And he would, you know, sometimes, like, give me a little feedback. Like, hey, this guy, he's not saying nice things. Like, this guy's out to get you. He does not like you. So just, like, be careful of him. Don't give him any extra time. So my dad would kind of keep me informed on that. The old, hey, are you going to the train room?

I'll walk with you. And they got their little tape recorder. Like, oh, I'll just walk with you. I'll make it easier for you. When really, you know exactly what I mean. They're walking with you to get their own question in. here's a media adjacent question growing up in Seaville and idolizing Tiki

nothing better for me than the Giants drafting Tiki and very bittersweet to have him missed that Super Bowl that first Super Bowl and yet I want to credit him and you probably want to do the opposite it was construed as hey Tiki says Eli is a bad leader when really the line was sometimes it was almost comical the way he would say things, which can be construed as a nothing statement now because we know

you're a funny guy. That's the first thing I hear when I text all my teammates. When I text like Fred Robbins or like I text stray this morning, I'm like, give me something to the, all they can say is like, that dude is way funnier than you know. But did you use that at all as motivation before that season to say, okay, Tiki guy now, outside looking in, making negative comments? Right. No, you know, I got nothing against Tiki. And, you know, he was, he, he, he, he was, he, he was, he was an unbelievable player for the Giants. In my first, my first three years, like, you know, we, we went 11 and five that second year and, uh, won the NFC East. Like, that doesn't happen if Tiki wasn't rushing for 1,500 yards and like, you know, controlling that offense. So he was, he was, he was, uh, you know, he was a great teammate. He was a workhorse. He showed up. He did his job, you know, did everything. You know, and I get it, you know, and I understand it also.

Like being in the New York media, like, you know, he says something about, you know, whatever, you know, my pregame speeches or sometimes comical or whatever it was. Like, I'm not the guy that like, I don't need that as motivation for me to go out there and play well. Like, it's more, you know, teammate, you know, based and want to do it for, you know, fans and want to do it for myself and, like, you know, being competitive or wanting to win. like that's the drive, not trying to like prove, you know, Tiki wrong or anyone wrong from that sense. So, you know, and I'm friendly with Tiki. I talk with them, text with them. And so we're on good terms. And I kind of felt he got a bad rap. And even amongst Giants fans now, like, you know, they announced him. You know, they may boo and stuff. And that's, that shouldn't be the case. He should be go down as one of the great Giants players. Because he, you know, especially the last four or five years, especially.

he was a tremendous player. Oh, he was great wire to wire. Like his last couple years, even at the age, he was playing at a position where now we, like Derek Henry, he hurts himself. Now this is a different kind of back, but we're all like, oh, here's the beginning of the end. A guy's like not even 30 years old yet.

Tiki was playing at a high level, even down the stretch. So I think it's great to hear you guys are cool and everything. It's just sometimes they take one thing and run with it for years, and it's probably not like that at all. But that's New York media. New York media, Philly Media, Chicago Media, they'll divide locker rooms and teams.

Like, how hard was it sometimes, you know, to be in the locker room, would you guys ever have to really, like, hunker down and say, like, this is a week where we're batting down the hatches, like everybody's out to get us? Was there a low point that you guys had to have, like, a player's only meeting? Do those even work in New York? Do you have those a lot? Yeah, we do have them. I feel like there was always, like, a spy in there.

Like, you know, he's like, hey, players only. Like, also, like, also, like, we're having a players only meeting. We don't have to announce the world that we had a player's own. Exactly. Like, we, that's the point is like, hey, let's, let's figure some stuff out in here. And, you know, all of a sudden you say, we had a player's only meeting. It's like, uh-oh, red flags. They got major issues, you know, abort, abort.

And so, like, let's just, like, let's just like, what's coming here and, you know, figure some stuff out. And, you know, I just thought, like, you know, you can't work your problems out through the media. That is not your source to, like, fix something or, like, if you have an issue with another player, like, come talk to me. Go talk to them. Bring it up amongst each other instead of, like, complaining to some guy you don't even know about what's going on. You know, it's like, that's, that's not the way to resolve anything. That's just throwing, you know, gasoline on the fire. Yeah, I can remember my last couple years in Philly. There were a bunch of unnamed sources. And any time you hear

unnamed sources floating around an article as you're like looking around the locker, I'm like, guys, it's fucking hard enough, man. Like, we're supposed to really be a team here. And so, yeah, like, you could be having a player's only meeting and you, on a level, it's not like your enemies with the

coaches and the front office people upstairs, but they have moles. The media has moles. Like, the bigger roster, it's the ultimate team sport, but there's also more chances somebody is disgruntled and he's going to to be talking to somebody that you shouldn't be talking to. Yeah, no question.

You mentioned earlier you didn't read like press clippings. Well, nowadays, I almost feel like quarterbacks and players are mentally weaker in a lot of ways, but also mentally tougher in a lot of ways because they have to deal with a very immediate criticism level like that we didn't. Like early in my career in 2008 or early in your career in like, what was your rookie year, 05 or 04? 0, 04. 04.

Like, yeah, you got up and read the papers, you know? Now, like, dudes are in their locker searching their names after games. I feel like the hardest job is doing what you guys do. Y'all do on Monday nights. And what Steve and Lewis and Brian do on the other side of the coin there is calling a Monday night game in front of the world. Do you, you're on Twitter now. Do you search your mentions? Do you read your mentions?

Do you seek any, you know, kind of positive or negative reinforcement? from fans. Yeah, I mean, a little bit. I will, I will kind of, you know, look at social media and just kind of see, you know, especially after the first couple, just to kind of see like, do people like this or like, positive comments, were we terrible? It's such a new idea. Something I'm like wasn't really, you know, you know, it's not like a football game or,

hey, we won. I know we did really well, you know, I threw three touchdowns. Hey, I, I played well. This is like, I don't know if he did well or not. You know, the producers might say, hey, that was a good show, but you're like, was it a good show? Are people in doing this? Is it, you know, kind of looking for what, what did they like? What are they laughing at?

What didn't they like? What were their mistakes? So you're kind of looking for those things just to learn. And I do agree a little bit, just like on the players, you know, now, you know, like back in my dad played, he only had one paper. It was like the local paper. And if you didn't actually get the paper and you had to read it, that was your only information of like news now you know it wasn't on phones it wasn't you didn't have a computer you

didn't have a national like every article written about you in the entire world is now at your fingertips let alone social media and every individual is taking shots at you or praising you one way the other so I think you know you got to be very careful you know diving into that world and looking for too much information whether it's praise or criticism I think both are are probably probably bad. Yeah, I think with players, people out there watching, and I respect football fans and I respect their level of knowledge, but at the same time, like, they don't know the context within the play to criticize a player a lot of times. Like, if a quarterback throws a pick, you know, maybe it was a miscommunication with the tight end. Maybe, you know,

like, we don't know what happened with Justin Herbert and Jared Cook, although I think I have an idea on Sunday. People don't often, they judge off a results too much. They don't, they don't judge plays or players with the context in mind. Now, when it comes to the media, I feel like there is a valuable, like I read our comments. Like I read our comments under the pod. I read our comments on iTunes because I feel like they don't need any context. They're the ones that are having the experience and it's enjoyable or it's not. And that's really what's important.

The customer's right, right? Have you read any that like stuck with you or any that you're like, holy shit, that was harsh? none yeah i haven't had too many harsh ones for whatever reason i'm still like figuring out twitter and social media i'm only on twitter and like i know how to send some stuff out but if i had to like send like a real tweet or i'm like hey i need i have like i don't like hashtag something i'm like i don't really know you can't hashtag shit yeah kind of like i've done a few but i'm not very good at that I'm more like sometimes I'll send stuff and I'll mention someone's name and after it's like hey you got a hashtag the name so they see it I'm like oh yeah the hashtag yeah I'm not really good at that either I never ask anybody to like or subscribe this podcast and I've been doing this for two plus years so I'm fucking forget the basics too if you had to hashtag the giants if you had to put out a giant's tweet this morning what's your hashtag you don't have to type it out let's just talk it out for theirs yeah like one word that describes where the giant's are right now.

They're searching. That's right. That's exactly right. I think they're finding some stuff, man. I really do. Danny has not played that bad this year, and I know it's hard for you because this is a topic where you want to be as down the middle as possible,

but like, I will say this. Like, Danny does enough to make you believe in him from time to time. And especially on the road, man. That's the reason I bet the Giants last night because I was like, Road Danny Dimes is like, he's a whole. of Fame or almost exaggerating.

But is there a reason somebody might play better on the road, a quarterback? Like, is there any conceivable, like, reasoning other than maybe you feel like you're on a vacation when you're not at that stadium in New York? Yeah. You know, I feel like, you know, I feel like sometimes I play better on the road. And that 2007 season, we went, we went seven and one on the road in the regular season, and went, you know, and went, you know, three and four at home. Yeah.

It's like, that's not quite normal. And so, you know, maybe you simplify the game plan because, because of the crowd noise, you don't have as many audibles in and many checks. And so you're not thinking as much. It's like, hey, you know, hey, we're just calling plays and react. Like, hey, if they come with this blitz, let's not try to, like, figure out the perfect protection. Let's just throw hot and we'll get out of it. And so at home, you have all the time, you got the cadence.

You can use all these things. You can pick up these perfect blitzes. And sometimes it doesn't work. And so you get bad plays and overthinking and looking for that check instead of just playing football. But I think, you know, like you said, I think Danny is not the problem. I think he's making a lot of plays. They're using them in a ton of ways.

I talked about, you know, on their best drive last week versus Carolina, he's running, you know, read option. they're not blocking the one technique. They don't block him. They're reading off him. That's weird. And he's running up the middle. They ran an option.

They did an option last night again. You know, they did a quarterback drawl. They did a throwback back to the Daniel. And then he threw a touchdown. Like that's how they had the score points is being very creative, moving the pocket. You know,

they're just not, they're banged up up front. They had, you know, their top receivers out, their top running backs out. like they're just limited on their players and and some personnel when you know they can't just say hey take a five-step drop two hits and rip it it's like if he wants to throw it he's got to throw it before guys are open and before the play has time to develop and that usually leads to

you know inaccurate balls tip balls you know bad plays give me a throw he he throws you know a route he throws really well and then one that maybe he needs to work on a little bit you know i think I feel like he does best, like when he can get the play action and he can be under center and, you know, get a seven-step drop and he can come out and like any ball at that situation is accurate. Whether it's like the deep comebacks, it's the break-ins, it's the hooks over the middle of the field. Like when he has a little bit of time and he can step into his throws, he's deadly accurate. You know, I just, you know, I haven't seen him, you know, hit like this, like the go routes. and some of that's just like you got, you know, six different receivers all playing out there.

You don't want your main target. Gallaudet has been hurt for a while. That's your deep, big body target. The other guys, Tony, you know, they're, you know, Shepherd, they're smaller guys that are more slot guys. So I think he just, you know, doesn't have that outside receiver, you know, great presence. And he just missed a few on those deeper throws, you know,

that, you know, that, you know, They had one in Washington. They kind of had one last night on a deep throat. They had the pass interference. Yep. He just missed a few of those. They needed that third and 11 early, though. If they don't hit that ball to John Ross,

I think maybe that game turns out differently. Yeah, I agree. That was a big play. You know, so they put together a couple good drives. They just don't have, they don't have the players to go score 30 points, which is kind of what you have to do against Kansas City. Their defense has been giving up 30 points a game. You got to, you know, kind of, you know, put a little pressure on them.

Yeah. And, you know, they could be, they could still kind of play patient. They still tried to, you know, almost lose the game, Kansas City last night. And, you know, but they didn't have to, they didn't have to force things and the homes could stay patient. You talked about play action. Were you ever afraid, like, and I don't mean afraid, like, reasonable afraid, because I would be afraid if I was a quarterback. I mean, like, no, thank you.

I like doing what we did. not what y'all did where you got to turn your back to the defense in a play action situation on the road you turn around do you have to process quicker generally the way you think about it in play action or is it like more the expectation is going to be there like what you expect to be there is going to be there it's more it's less variable and are you worried more about the rush because I feel like y'all get tattooed the worst on play action if somebody wins fast yeah I think I like play action and you know just because for the most part I mean you know for some of them hey you're keeping some tight ends in and they're blocking and say let's make this look like

the run and I think that's kind of like you don't have to you don't have to you know read the coverage off the get go so quickly because the play fake should be like getting all the suck where you should have time and you know just kind of read hey this receiver to this receiver. You can see the coverage afterwards. And you might get some tips just from knowing the defense and your game plan. But I just thought, you know, you needed a few of those plays were like, hey, I'm going to be protected. I can give a great fake and worry about that. And I'm going to come out and like I'm going to work this receiver, this receiver. And if no one's open, I'll look from my back or throw it away. And it's like a, you don't

have to overthink things. You can just, you know, just do that job. And then there's obviously third downs where it's, you know, odd spacing and guys walking around. that you've got to do the math equation to get this protected and figured out where the brain's working a bunch. But you need a couple of those kind of easy playoffs where you can just not think and just play football. You talk about rushers and on the road and being scary and everything. Like back in your day, NFC East,

you had some of the best rushers on your team. If you could take one rusher out of the NFC East during your tenure as a New York giant to just like easier on your AC, you ain't, you know, easier on, but, you know, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, your, remember, Woffel, if you could take one rush away from your time in the NFC's to make your life easier, who would you sub out?

Well, I mean, I think the Marcus Ware, the Cowboys, I think it sacked me more than, than any other player in my career. And then the other guy, Trent Cole, you know, with, with, with the Eagles. I mean, he was, he was, I feel like his were more painful. his, the Marcus is such like a nice guy, not to say Trent's not, but like, he would like kind of just tackle you. Trent Moore had a little more drive into the sack. Like he was trying to, you know, put a little extra, you know, emphasis on putting you to the ground. But, you know, both those guys were tremendous players and, you know, just like, hey, you know,

let's put the bat. Let's get Brandon Jacobs over there early to chip these guys. It's like, let's get a, yeah, let's get a 270-pound guy to like just throw a, you know, elbow right into the rib and just slow these guys down a little bit. That'll do it. Eli, I'm going to cough because Chris makes me podcast, even when I have pneumonia. You don't have pneumonia, dude, fucking being dramatic. And I'm starting to get a sense of what your experience is like on Monday night with this

filibustering over here and only getting to talk 10% of the time. But I guess your name is on the podcast. So I'm going to have to go back for one second. to Daniel Jones and being coached by David Cutcliffe, as you were, and coaching continuity and the importance of that, especially for a young quarterback, I'm curious, does coach Cutcliffe see any of you and Daniel Jones and how important is it for a guy like Daniel Jones to be in the same system?

I mean, it's not lost on Chris or me that you were eight minutes early to the Zoom meeting. Yeah, it's a Kaufflin thing. It's the Kaufflin thing. And you guys had a great run. And to go along with the seven-part question here, your career ends with Coach McAdoo and ending that consecutive game streak would still rub some of us the wrong way. Rub me wrong. Probably more than it even does you.

So take any one of those, Eli, but I'm curious about the connection with you and Daniel. This is like playing at home. He's like playing at home. You have seven different plays you can run. Yeah. Take your pick. You know, I think Daniel, you know, just just watching, watching him and how he's handled everything. Like, I don't think the New York media and the New York situation is too big for him.

And like he's not, I don't, I mean, I know like he wants to do well. Like he's super competitive. He works hard. I think the thing I really like, he likes to be coached and wants to be coached and wants to get better and wants ideas to like, hey, how can I improve this? Like, he knows what some of the issues were and some of his fumbles. issues from last year. He's committed to really fixing it. And it's not just saying it. I feel like, you know, there are so many guys that they know the right thing to say. They know, hey, I got to fix this. I'm going to look at the film and I'm going to fix it. They say it, but are they

really doing it? Like, are they really doing anything to try to fix the problem? Or are they just trying to say the right things that they know what you should say? And I think Daniel works hard at really trying to fix things. And I think he can handle New York media. He is, you know, kind of down the earth and doesn't get too high, doesn't get too low. And I think that style works well for New York. And so, you know, I think with Coach Cut, I think it's just, I think that's kind of

what you learn and what Peyton and I and what Daniels, like, you pay attention to the small things and doing the really small things extremely well. And just like, whether it's your fundamentals, just your two hands and the ball and you look for those things you work on those things in the all season and i think he does those things so you know i hope i hope he can you know figure it out and they can win some games and give you know continue to give him a little bit time uh because i think he has the goods to be a good player who's better at beer pong you or danny dimes because i think i saw you all playing beer pong at one point yeah uh we were playing like um like quarters and a little flip cup more

than beer pongs. Oh, that's fucking boring. Why aren't we playing beer pong? I played beer pong this weekend. It was great. You were too sick to come to the party. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, no, I would have played beer pong with and we were just at a bar. It was hard to set up the beer pong. It was a little crowded. We didn't have the right balls. You didn't have the pawn balls. We had quarter. Yeah, we had quarters.

We had cups. Here's the answer. Eli's better. It's Old Miss versus Duke. Old Miss versus Duke. Yeah. Had a lot more practice. A little more age.

A little more, you know, kind of know how to like, when he's up, like, actually spill a little beer like right in front of his so the quarter doesn't bounce as much.

It's those little tips. It's those little tips. What did you say? It's like, and this is funny. Okay, I'm not because before I say this, I just want to say,

do you realize that you had Tom Brady on? for a while. Speaking of gamesmanship, and Tom was great, and I loved like everybody else loved it. I enjoyed all the games we played in. You're great, man. We're sitting back waiting and just like a sniper back there. But then he got off and y'all somehow started talking

about the prepping of the balls. How much was going through y'all's mind about damn? We're talking about all this ball, deflation, inflation, saunas, the equipment guys, all the quarterbacks have their guys. Was Peyton looking at you like, don't bring up Tom?

We just had him on. Don't make a deflate gate joke. Was that in your mind? It was definitely, definitely on the mind. And I was like, we were, because we were taught,

you know, we actually talked about the force. Like, let's, you know, because he was on talk about the balls, because he had some balls slip out of his hand when he played in Seattle.

So I'm like, let's not talk about any, any of that. He's nice enough to, like Tom Brady went from, he's on the show. Like, we're going to take some shots at them different ways.

Like, let's just, let's leave that. Let's leave that off. I think, though, I personally think they showed in the second half of that indie game and in the Super Bowl why it really didn't matter

because, you know, like to me, I don't think that stuff is as big of a deal, but I'm not a quarterback. I was really interested in that conversation y'all had about the prepping of footballs and like Warren Moon's footballs were different and blah blah, blah. So how did Eli Manning like his footballs

and fill people in on kind of what we were talking and what y'all were talking about on the Manning cast that they didn't hear? Yeah, so like you're very, you're very, particular and like I like them you know rub down like when the ball comes out brand new you know they take it out of like a plastic bag it is bright red and so slippery like I couldn't throw that thing 25 yards um and then so you got to like they brush it down they have like a sander or like a big brush it like gets it but you want to keep the nubs you don't want to just

wipe everything down you like a little nub on there and you like a little it's like it's somehow they can get like a little tack on it or something that, you know, it gives you a little, a little stickiness. And the summer, it's, it's so humid that it, you kind of create it. It's in the winter when it's cold. That's where you need, like, you know, just have those nubs where you can just get a little grip. Yeah, like, they slip out of your hand, right?

The rare times I held a football, I was like, damn, this is, this is scary. I mean, like, if it's dry out, you know, if there's no traction, like, that was so interesting to me. And I think that's the typical, like, reason when you turn on the Manningcast, even as a former player. Like, I love it because they're talking about inside baseball stuff. With Tom Brady back in the day, 2007, your first time, before you go head to head with him, you know the deal. Y'all are underdogs. Like, you guys are huge underdogs. I argued with Strayhan about who was bigger underdogs, the Eagles against, it was clearly y'all. I forgot the Vegas line was like double digits. Had you guys

even talked like ever before that week and when you went to the media day, did you get a vibe that those guys thought they were going to beat you? Did Tom give you like 15 years later, y'all joke on the Manning cast, but was he kind of looking at you like, all right, kid? You know, I think, obviously, they had all the reason to believe they were going to beat us. They, you know, one, they'd already beat us

in the regular season, the last game of the season, but we played him close to they were undefeated. Like, no one had beaten. They played, you know, like a lot of them were not very close. They kicked, you know, kicked everybody's butt throughout the playoffs.

They, you know, the Ravens played them close. in the regular season, but, you know, but they were just, they were scoring points unbelievably and defensively, they were, you know, not, you know, they were playing, they were playing pretty good. And so, but no, I never felt a cockiness or, you know,

that they, they thought it was going to be easy. You know, the only thing I saw was like a little bit right before the game. Like, we went out for like, my kind of pre, pre-game warmups, like, you know, I just go out the receivers, I throw a few routes. And I just, like, A lot of, I saw a couple of their players out there. I think they had like some, their kids were out there.

They seemed like a little too relaxed. You know, they had been to Super Bowls, right? They had won Super Bowls. They had been there before. I think they always thought like, hey, we're on cruise control now. Like, we're here. This is what we do. This is how we win.

And we felt confident going into that game because we, you know, because we played them the last game in the regular season. We, yeah. Yeah, we scored a bunch of points on them and they just outscored us. But, you know, we're a play or two away from winning that game. And we'd defensively, we played outstanding throughout the playoffs. We were getting the quarterbacks. And we just felt that we could score points on them.

We didn't score that many points. But our defense thought they would play better and had some things for Brady with some of the protections and changing things up. They thought they could get to them. Yeah. Did you run around like the locker room like I did and ask, you know, for me it was, how many points can you all score on the paths? Because their defense was bad.

I was asking Lane Johnson. I was asking these guys like, what's the magic number this week? Because like I got to go over here and tell we got to guard gronk and we got to do all this shit. Like we need to set goals that are realistic. You know, it's not like you're going to, you're going to shut the Patriots out.

Were you running around asking the defensive guys like, hey, how's this game plan, man? I just, yeah, I mean, I thought that was, I mean, it wasn't exactly like getting a number, but I just kind of knew like the way we played throughout the playoff. We're like, hey, we're going to run the ball. We're going to, you know, throw kind of short pass in game,

get completions. and like we're going to run the clock. We're going to have long drives. And like, you know, I think that was going, hey, you know, they were just trying to, hey, you got to take away Moss. Like, don't let him have the 85-yard bombs. And, you know, we'll give Welker the little short stuff, but just like, you got to tackle them.

And, like, let's tackle them for eight yards or six yards. And so I think that was kind of the game plan. Just let's shorten the game a little bit. And so their offense does not have, you know, 14 possessions. And we can get them to 11 possessions. Like, that's the way we can try to, win this football game. Eli, a couple rapid fires before we get you out of here. Thank you

for your time. So gracious, man. Number one and the Chiefs just added one piece today in Melvin Ingram, which I think is a really nice piece for them because they do need rushers, but they need things on offense. Give me one thing that would fix the Chief's offense. I know there might not be one thing, but if you had to add one player to that Chief's

offense, guys are sitting in too high right now. Saw it last night. It's going to be tough for them. Well, I think it's getting the running back, a layer back. I think if they can run the ball and just feel confident running the ball. And also just with it, he's such a good receiving back. It's like, hey, that's another short passing, getting him out, just getting, you know, Mahomes and rhythm.

And, you know, if they can, but just like, you know, getting the run game going will help get a little bit more single high safety. You'll help get a little bit more man. Yep. Possibly. And that's when that's when Tyreek and Kelsey and they can go, they can go a while. You talked about the streak, you know, 210 games. which it should have been turned into 234.

Yeah, but it probably shouldn't have been a break in there. It should not have been a break. So what was the closest Eli Manning ever was to not playing a football game? I think maybe 2007. First game of the season, we played the Cowboys and, you know, separated my right shoulder, you know, like a grade two AC joint, which is a form of separation. So that next week it did not feel good throwing a football. I didn't practice until Friday.

It took half the reps Friday. And it was like, I can kind of throw it. It's like we can't throw any play action, 60 yard bomb. So we got to keep it. I can throw like a press go route 35 yards. But that's kind of my max here. What kind of beer was Brett Farv offering you? When I heard this story, Brett Farv called you into a bar,

like Uncle Rico when you were 17 and I was trying to get you drunk. What kind of beer did Brett Farb give you? Do you remember what kind of beer was Brett Farv drinking? I'm pretty sure we're drinking, you know, bud light. I think in Mississippi, but Mississippi, maybe a butt heavy. Maybe the, but heavy. Wow, classy. That's cool.

I could see that. I could see Brett Farv drinking butt heavy. Are you more tired of is Eli Manning a Hall of Famer question or where is Arch Manning going to college question? And why would it be Virginia? Yeah. Yeah, the Hall of Fame. Yeah, I don't like the Hall of Fame and dealing with that answering questions.

I don't mind talking about Arch. Good. So where is he going to college? Can we get into Charlottesville? I mean, Peyton's got some Charlottes. The best receivers in the country. Best receivers in the country. Shout out to Marcus Higgins.

There you go. Maybe he does. His oldest sister is at Virginia right now. She's a freshman at Virginia. So, you know, follows in the old sister's footstead. steps. She could be there. He could be there. Exactly. All right. So give me an NFL team you want to see draft Matt Corral after this season if it is. Huh. That's a good question.

You got to think, yeah, it's who needs a quarterback, you know. Careful. Yeah, this is, this is a. Elias trying to think about. Maybe the saints. The saints. He's not on the Trevor Simeon wagon. And then lastly, one place you want to go on the SEC that you have in for Eli's places and one place you would never want to go in the SEC for your last places. Never goes easy. You know, Starkville, Mississippi.

You can't go, you know. Fucking cowbells. Yeah, you know, if, you know, yeah, can't go there. And then where would I like to go? You know, I think, you know, I go to Athens, Georgia, great college town. You know, good place. That'd be a good, but some great stories. Come visit us in Charlestonville when Arch comes up here,

and we can do an Eli's place up here. We'll take good care of you. Any foundation plug for you before you go. I know you do great work off the field. Well, now out of the booth. Two men of the year right here. Oh, yeah. Look at us.

Man of the year. Look at us. We're in a fraternity together. It's a good one. So there's a lot of work. Tackle Kids, cancers, of pediatric cancer research through Hackensack, Meridian Hospital, New Jersey.

So we're doing great things, helping kids get healthy. So never fair to see a child sick and dealing with cancer. So not smart enough to be a doctor, but I can raise some awareness, raise some money, and help those kids. Eli, you're the man. Enjoy playing against you. And now I love watching you on TV. And I will be, I'll hit the bong before I come on next time, Eli.

Perfect. Let's do it. Done deal. Thanks a lot. Appreciate it, pal. Take it easy, dude. See you. Be well.

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Make favorite Eli. moment, not from the interview, obviously. Oh, I was going to say balls. Balls, yeah. I think that'll play. The Manningham, gas, you catch. Yeah. For me. Yeah. Because that was about him. Tyree was kind of like

a little of everything. Yeah. Escapeability is the second best ability next to availability. Availability. That's right. Good to have you back. I was at that Super Bowl in Nap City, and it was boring. In a good way. Yeah, the game was fine, but no offense the Indianapolis lovely place, but I had just gotten surgery on my hand and I was down there to make money. And so I was drinking and nursing a surgically repaired hand, which is never fun.

So I was in and out of the hotel room. I had fun interviewing Eli. I did not. I did not. I thought you did a heck of a job. It was a great interview. I just, you know, I've been out of the game for a couple weeks. Yeah, you're rusty.

I was a little verbose in my questioning. Should have just been looser. Should have started loose. should have got fucked up I don't know about that Eli was awesome loved the Manning cast my remote control got stuck last night

I lost my remote like lost remote bottom five feeling stuck on the the Reggie cast which is the regular cast That's all I'm saying I'm not saying it's bad But it's just the Manning cast Has been my new Monday night addiction

And it was good having Eli on Hey we got to do NBA City draft acknowledgement 75th anniversary, NBA City Unis came out, alternates, if you will. We got them all right here in front of us. Let's do a draft.

Okay. We're going to do four sides. So we were talking, what do we call it? Do we call it a Four Loco? Well, you said, I like Four Loco because we get a Four Locos sponsorship. Reed would drink them all.

I feel like, Reed, do you drink Four Locke? No, not since 2014. But you really did. though in 2014. Oh yeah, I had a couple. You did the sidewalk slammers. I don't know what a sidewalk slamer is.

We don't need to go on. Well, because I found out your mom listed as this pod. So we don't need to talk about you sidewalk slamming four locos, which you're not sure are even safe. But we got four weddings and a funeral was one idea you had. And I said, why not make it four weddings and four funerals?

We'll pick our best four and our worst four. Yeah, I said four weddings and a funeral, like our best four and then our worst. Yeah. And then you put your own spin on it. Yeah. And I'm here for it.

I'm just here to help, you know, I'm like a muse for you, bro. Isn't a muse something that, uh, is here for something else? Well, tell me how. Yeah. You, um, you, um, you allow me to flourish. I, I get to, creativity. Play off you. Yeah.

Creativity. Yeah. All right, cool. Four weddings, four funerals. Okay. And I won the coin toss for the four weddings. Yeah. You get the first pick.

And yeah, this is one of those visual, um, segments. So I know it's a podcast, and some of you guys are like, hey, what the fuck? But we have a link there in the show notes that, you know, you go to this link. You can look at every jersey we're about to be talking about. It's like news.nike.com, but the news might have updated there. So just check the show notes. Click. Okay, let's go.

Right. If we fall short of describing these unies, go to the internet. With the first overall pick in the NBA City edition uni draft, Team Macon selects the T-Wolves. now that's going to be bottom row where are they yeah yeah yeah classic they weren't on my big board just really yeah they weren't so I should have stuck it they look so much like you know the other T-wolves

unies like I well yeah they haven't been around that long I know I love the throwbacks though and these just are like a different take on the throwback so this is a throwback with a really pretty blue yeah it's a pretty blue I like it I respect the pick but that's clears the way for me to make my number one choice at two and three two and three here you are Yeah, I think I'll go Clippers

Oh my You don't like them Nope The shorts are great They have like a thing going on On the shorts I love the colors I think the clippers

Should just stick to those colors Well sure Have those ever been the colors I guess maybe At some point No but I mean it's not really About integrity here Okay

I mean Look at the Raptors Gold and black And I'm taking the Raptors too Wow I didn't think I like the Raptors This is the wedding, not the funeral.

Well, listen, I don't, I'm not in love with this slate here. Okay. You know, like, this is not, this has not been my favorite. And maybe not my favorite draft I've ever done. But when you click on the, not the big screen version, like the pixelated version of Toronto and L.A. here, I think you'll get it. Okay. Have you done that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. You still hate them. Still think they're cheeks. Yeah. Damn, there's a lot of other good uniforms on this board that I kind of passed up. I'm going four overall Chicago Bulls, that little script, giving you a Jordan Field top row. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's beautiful.

Did you see the shorts? Yep, yep. Okay. Oh, the bull in the black diamond. Yeah, kind of busy. Ooh. Kind of busy. Like that pick.

Coming from a guy who just selected the dinosaur with a basketball uniform. And then I'll go, uh, I'm going to go hornets with the honeycomb all over the place. You knew you do that when you went to the bathroom. Kingston thought you do that. At 1-1? Was that the... I think you thought it might have been... And again, we're parking our cars in separate garages.

Yes. I was really looking hard at the bucks, okay? But then you get a closer look, way too much purple. Oh, I think not enough. That stripe where they stop that multicolored stacking, which I love, and go just purple overdose all the way down to the IT bands. That neck is also fucked up. The neck is really fucked up.

The neck is like... well it's fucked up an upside down two liter bottle yeah it's stupid yeah you're exactly right wow and you know what well

let's not get into the ones I hate okay you got two picks I'm up I have two picks tough man because John Morant makes Memphis so fucking cool like John Morant

not to mention the the piping that they got going on am I using that correctly yeah you are yeah the grizzly bear on the shorts

beautiful I don't yeah yeah see you you haven't even no I know I have I have I have I'm just going off this you're like Eli on the Manning cast I'm I'm over here to hey listen to my voice note okay you don't even look at the shorts dude well are you taking Memphis no okay I'm not I'm gonna take damn damn damn damn dude there's a couple cool ones left we can do honor roll missions I really like the sixers man I do too I'm taking them that's a good pair yeah because because at first glance I thought they were shit weak and I was like, what are those colors about? But they're about the

the old stadium there. Is that correct? Yeah, it's a retro nod to the, what is it there? Spectrum. Yeah, spectrum. Yeah, red. It's beautiful. Orange. It's cool. And it's truly retro. So, terrific pick. Yeah, thank you.

All right, first one of its kind on my draft board today. I'll go, you know, I'm a sucker for lightning bolts. you know I'm a sucker for lightning bolts but I think the Warriors could have done better I am going to go with the Memphis Grizzlies you're just reading the room

no no no no no I say a bunch of teams no no I forgot I forgot I want the Lakers I want the Lakers bro I want the Lakers they were on my big board I like the two stars I think that's different I know it symbolizes something I have no idea what it does symbolize at all the only reason I almost didn't take it is Lakers

man but it's an undeniably beautiful uni including the shorts. Shorts are tight too. It's purple so you know. Okay. I don't think this is going to, I'm not going to win the press conference here either. I'm going to go Nets just because of a nod to Drozzen Petrovich. Yeah. He wore those bad boys. A bunch of white guys played well for the Nets in that era and into the early 2000s. KD. modeling that bad boy. Yeah. You know what? That is really cool. I think maybe something about the shorts bothered me,

but great pick, dude. Thank you. Golly. Those are our four weddings. Now our four funerals. You have the number one overall pick. I do have the number one overall pick. I'll do okay C bro. That was my number one. Like who's wearing that? Who's wearing that? A white guy with an armband walking through a mall in the Midwest. Like walking by Spencer's looking at a lava lamp. Like this is hideous. They just, it's a total cop out. We just did white. This is the Caucasian edition. The loves, uh, was that a, I love that their sponsor is loves. You know what loves this? It's a fucking truck stop all through the Midwest. I will say I don't I think the the logos do ruin these for me like it like Memphis looks

so cool because it doesn't have a logo on it at least in this. Bro imagine that board meeting where they're like everybody's going to be coming with some heat. Let's just do a white uniform. Okay. See I think yeah I think you win the draft by virtue of that big shit dude. I'm glad we we agree too. Yeah. New Orleans is trash. I'm not going to pick them, but I just want to tell you. New Orleans is just regular New Orleans. It's on my board. Okay, it's a trash uni. It's on my funeral board.

Colors and all. I'll go number two overall. I'll go Orlando Magic. There are pinstripes again. There's a lot of orange. Yeah, I don't know where they go black and orange. It looks like a, you know, party starts here thing or like a lotto logo. It's disgusting.

It's gross. Those are cheap looking stars. That looks like you came off of one of those cheap, what is it? What do you put under your plates and your forks and knives on the table? Napkins. No, no, the thing that goes over the whole table. Just, oh, those, the, escaping me right now. The chargers?

That goes under a plate. No, what am I talking? Oh, place mat. No, you know what I'm talking about. I really don't. The thing that, like, when you're trying to have a fancy dinner. Chargers? Tablecloth?

Tablecloth. The party starts here at tablecloths, bro. See, I forgot Tablecloth. Yeah, but yeah, that's what you're... It looks like a party starts here, tablecloth, that orange on the ice. It's cheap.

How did you make something that's presumably a nice fabric looks so cheap? I don't know where to go here. Great pick, dude. Great pick. Hey, uh, thanks. I, um, God, I do want to go Nola. Is that where I'm going?

Some of these guys just completely mailed it in. Well, I'll go with one who mailed it in. No offense. Hope none taken. New York Knicks. Yeah, they did kind of mail it in, dude. They just made it a black jersey. It's a Halloween edition, bro.

Yeah. They did this at the last minute. They were like, fuck, we got to pick a city edition. When do they come out? Oh, next Tuesday, it was Halloween. If only we had a ton of history on which to draw on. I don't like it.

I'm with you. Great pick. Thank you. I want to go Dallas Mavericks. Everything about this uniform, like your logo is a basketball with a cowboy hat. That's awesome. Yes.

How do you not win? with that player on your team. How do you not win with that player? How do you not win with a cowboy-themed uniform ever? They screwed it up with the paneling and the armpits. Terrible. The neck is another upside-down two-liter bottle. Yep.

But this shit is terrible. And they need to go sit at the kids table with Oklahoma State, who's also missing their opportunity. Be like the Wyoming Cowboys. They're at the adults' table. Yeah, Dallas. I get another pick That's right Your final

You know what I want to give an honorable mention to Detroit Check out their shorts Detroit's on my board They're there Head nod Tip of the cap

Not of the dome To Detroit I'll go Spurs really found a way To fuck this up I think so I mean like So many awesome

Retro looking ways You could go with the Spurs Man I love the 90s Spurs uniforms I would have taken San Antonio first. In the weddings or funeral? The weddings?

Those are fresh. Crunchy. Pull those up a little closer so we can roast the fuck out of these. You gotta have to, bro. I love that turquoise. I love the colors, cowboy, but it's the shape. It's the execution. It's the execution.

Part of the piping is very neat and like kind of fragmented. And part of it is just like, unabated to the shorts. That's what she said. Zoom out a little bit more. Am I still picking? I think you just made two, didn't you? No.

I don't think I did. Oh, that was, you were just shouting out. You were just reading the room again. No, I'm not reading the room. Okay. I'm really not. I just have a lot going on in my head, dude. Uh, yeah.

Can attest. No. Uh, let's see. Hey, Sacktown's pretty fucking bad, dude. I was looking at Sacktown zoomed out and I was like, okay, I like some classic script, but it looks, it looks too playful to have the word sack town on your chest. If you have sack town on your chest, it can't look so kind of playful. You know? Yeah. Everybody's thinking. They called us sack city in St. Louis for a couple years,

and it was kind of awesome, but it was kind of always like, hey, we're talking testicles? I'll round out with New Orleans Pelicans. It's been discussed. Yeah, dude. Just looks like their uni. Yeah, they forgot. They auto-drafted. They auto-picked their NBA City uniform. And I guess I, golly.

Celtics do nothing for me. Miami, I mean, is so middling. Yeah. So middling. And different numbers, too. That's bad. If I have another pick here, I'll go

Golden State Warriors who was almost a wedding for you Well it wasn't, they had wedding elements but it just doesn't work together the lightning and that bridge. It's so close to what they're doing normally. He's pretty much just there's some fucking two lightning emojis.

Last pick. Oh, I got one more? You sure? Yeah. Okay. Fuck dude. You can go Celtics. You just said it. I think it's fine. Yeah, you know I like Denver. I like it okay. Utah we've seen for a few years.

Yeah, they barely even changed it. They didn't change anything. Cleveland, I think that's a good logo if we could actually see it on the thing. And that's not a problem with our screen. It's just a busy-ass. It's a busy-ass logo. It looks like a seal of a small city or something. All right.

Yeah, Washington. I'll go with Washington. All their uniforms look the same over the last few. They just had never been able to settle on a single ABA-look in Jersey. So yeah, all looks the same. It's getting tired. Thanks to this particular professional sports league for letting us have some fun.

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