Green Light with Chris Long - Ep. 20 - Tom Brady in an Aqua Jersey, I’d Buy That.

Episode Date: January 8, 2020

4:10 - Chris Long got rear ended in snowstorm. 14:03 - Happy Birthday Howie. 16:17 - Kyle Long Tribute. 34:30 - Pop culture "Saved by the Bell", "Fresh Prince", "Home Improvement" and the new Batman s...eries". 53:50 - Wild Card Weekend. 1:10:13 - Coaching Carousel. 1:27:32 - Future Plans for Brady. Shout Out and Congratulations to Steve Gleason. About Chalk Media: Following the unfiltered voice and vision of Chris Long, Chalk Media is the interactive online community for you, the intelligent and humorous sports fan. Driven by access, Chalk delivers a unique perspective that cuts through the canned talking points and provides a variety of content from your favorite sports and entertainment celebrities. Here at Chalk, we don’t take ourselves too seriously, but we are rooted in challenging the perception of professional athletes. We embrace the “real” with a unique combination of humor and intelligence. Chalk is a community with a voice beyond 240 characters that brings a perspective and vibe to a traditionally brash and boastful sports media space. Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more. Nothing is off-limits at Chalk - hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. 🌍🏀🏈SUBSCRIBE NOW ⚾🏒⛰️ http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Greenlight Pod. Please check us out on Chalk Media at Twitter. Follow us there and then also head over to the YouTube page to see a lot more of our content. Chalk Media, YouTube. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. On today's snow show, and we are not no shows on today's snow show,
Starting point is 00:00:20 I took an hour ride here. I took a 30-minute ride here from two minutes away. Takes me eight minutes to get here usually. We're going to talk about snow, coaches, Wild Card Weekend. Kyle Long, maybe a little Tom Brady, some other stuff.
Starting point is 00:00:36 By the way, maybe a Vince Carter mentioned, so we're going to get the NBA in here. So check it out. Kelly Kapowski, too. Oh, and I got rear-ended on the way to work today. Are you okay?
Starting point is 00:00:49 I'm not sure. So I guess we can start the show like that. They're rolling, right? I reckon. That's what we're like behind the scenes. Meteorologists in Central. Virginia did not have their best day yesterday because we did not see this coming. No, I think Charlottesville City and the county here, and I've been critical before on certain
Starting point is 00:01:39 other things, but this is, this is not their best day. No, granted, it's only three inches, about three inches in Charlottesville, Virginia is a that's a lot, that's what she said. That's what she said. That's what she said. I was waiting for that. Yeah, you served it up betterer style here on the, uh, I'm going to keep it cleaner today.
Starting point is 00:02:01 It's 2020. I'm going to be as clean as possible. I'm not going to cuss. Did you happen to check out our live stream on Sunday? Yeah, we cussed. Cust up well, you cussed up a storm. You made a joke that was vulgar. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:02:15 You misspoke on something. What did you say? I was giving dating advice. I'd rather not repeat it. How did you like the live stream? I liked it. I liked it a lot. Now, I've spoken to a couple clients today.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Oh, boy. And they both said that they tuned in, which terrifies me. That terrifies me to no end. Maybe. And by the way, for prospective clients, my man has his, first off, welcome to Greenlight, episode 20. Thank you. Milestone. Yeah, 20.
Starting point is 00:02:49 20. 20. In 20, 20, 1 5th of the way to 100. That'll be here before you know it. won't it it's just it's just time flies when you're having fun yeah you were talking about my career yeah so making for those of you who uh who are joining us uh and i always have to remind everybody as a prolific real estate agent i think you transcend the business so it's hard to even call you an agent it's got you you need another another term i think you've done so well at it you've
Starting point is 00:03:22 ascended so quickly. Mughal. A mogul. You're too kind. In an old man's game, I mean, you are a young man. You are McVeigh. You were the Sean McVeigh. Now, as long as you don't do a golf thing,
Starting point is 00:03:36 should be all right. I'm the Joe Judge. Eh. Just quietly build. Joe Judge is not, Macon's also not just a real estate agent. He's a Giants fan, and we'll get to that. But he has to leave today at some point because he has to push MLS
Starting point is 00:03:51 and MLS is of course an acronym for what is it multiple listing sales service service yeah okay yeah he's pushing multiple listings out in three inches of snow which feels like a foot in Charlottesville as you mentioned gotta get it done
Starting point is 00:04:09 I was rear-ended today on the way end I heard about that let's talk about your health let's talk about your vehicle yeah the other person yeah let's talk about that I've been rear-ended in my lifetime probably four times wow that's a lot yeah I'm a zero I'm starting to feel targeted I'd yeah knock on these shag chairs we got we got great chairs by the way
Starting point is 00:04:34 yeah I was uh it was going about zero miles an hour as you usually are when you get rear ended but it was stop and go traffic wasn't even a big hill and I look up and see a car just lighting at me and there's nothing you can do. A Jetta. Good on you for not having your eyes on your mobile. Yeah, well, you know, I drive safe. So, I mean, in traffic, every now and again, I might look at a text, but in this situation,
Starting point is 00:05:06 I'm not, you know, my phone's in the cup holder and I just get rammed. And I don't know, my next, I had some neck problems when I played. Unbeknownst to some people, I had like a... I wouldn't, as your counsel, I wouldn't advise you to say that. Yeah. Your neck was fine throughout your career
Starting point is 00:05:22 My neck was out there I did not slip a disc You never once had back on neck Or head issues Last year In all seriousness For like eight weeks last year I couldn't turn my head
Starting point is 00:05:35 During the season To look at people It's finally cleared up But this This here accident I don't know Nice white Jetta Nice lady
Starting point is 00:05:48 Probably I think she was like a grad student I'm thinking, in all seriousness, I get out of the car. And my first thought is, don't look scary. Because I feel bad for the person that rear ends me, not the other way around. It wasn't that bad. I mean, she's not trying to hit me in the back of my vehicle. And I drive a relatively nice car. It is.
Starting point is 00:06:15 It's a nice car. You like the color? Yeah, I do. Okay. Kind of like my sweater today. Nice conantone. It is. It's Eagles Green.
Starting point is 00:06:26 It is midnight green. I call it NyQuil. But I'm not going to give you the make and model. It's a nice car. It is. Damage, done. Let's hear it. And Homegirl smoked like some small piece of my vehicle.
Starting point is 00:06:42 And it's like hanging off. And I get out and I'm 6 foot four, 253 pounds, thank you very much at this point. and I always want to be very inviting. Six foot three and a half. So my first, yeah. So my first, my first words, sirs,
Starting point is 00:06:57 I think I said sorry. I felt like totally Canadian. It's not, it's not my fault at all. But I'm in a situation where I am a very large man and she ran into a nice car and she's probably petrified.
Starting point is 00:07:13 I want to, I want to nominate myself as the friendliest guy you could rear end in traffic. Maybe so. town of 50,000 here, your C-long, did she know who you were?
Starting point is 00:07:23 I don't think so, and I love that. Did you exchange information? Information. Yeah. I don't think we did it the... Conventional way. The conventional way. And I realize this,
Starting point is 00:07:33 I don't think a lot of younger people at this point know how to do that. I'm 33. I've, again, never had to do that. So, what, name, insurance? We did email. Email? Yeah, totally.
Starting point is 00:07:46 Totally. You're going to keep this off the books. Nice. not advisable, but she seemed very honest. I'm putting it out here in the pod. There's a little piece hanging off, which I got stopped in traffic again by some dude who hopped out and knocked to my window and said, hey man, there's a piece of your car hanging off. Thanks. Thank you. Just rear-ended about 300 yards back there. Yeah. Then the dude's like walking back to his car and he's slipping. I got, you know, I got those videos. I think people now when it's snowing and they live by a hill,
Starting point is 00:08:14 they just sit outside with their cell phone. Yeah. I, old dyed tips. And I said, couple yeah Matt Conrath he lives in front of one of the most giant hills in Charlottesville and it's like a party of 18 wheelers they're going to be stuck there for the foreseeable future yeah soundtrack of of that road is the the reverse beep yeah but it's uh it's a double it's so there's two hills right it's like a bowl there's no getting out so uh thoughts and prayers to those those 18 wheel roll on highway roll on on along. Roll on daddy till you get back home. Alabama. Anyways, I get really excited when it's snowing. It's my favorite thing in the world. I think people that don't like snow, they had a
Starting point is 00:09:01 bad childhood or something. I'm not sure. I love snow. And I love dressing like this. I look like this is an outfit that you would put a baby in. Yeah. And I put it on myself. You look like, you look like a baby. Yeah, it looked like a big ass baby. Yeah. Which might have made it less intimidating for me getting out of the car. Now, what would you call this? Fleece?
Starting point is 00:09:30 Yeah, slippers, pajamas pants, fleece. Fleece, green fleece pajama pants. Nice thermal wool socks. Smart wool, when it becomes smart wool season, I almost resent summer because I can't wear my smart wool. When I start being able to throw in the smart wool at night, my ugg slippers i get to throw on like this this puffy shit i got on i got a a waffle shirt with the henley look going i am the most comfortable man on the eastern seaboard and i love snow days
Starting point is 00:10:00 another thing i love is is uh is cold shower season i don't know if you're familiar with whim hoff no whimhoff is a dude and i'm going to butcher this whole thing as i do a lot on this pod but he's a dude from like Finland or thereabouts you want to look him up yeah I think he might be from he's one of those Nordic cats and this guy climbed Kilimanjaro
Starting point is 00:10:25 in just boxers and I know a lot of you have probably heard of Wim Hof if you spend a lot of time on the internet born in the Netherlands yeah close enough a lot of rivers and bridges and canals it's far north Wim Hof
Starting point is 00:10:41 do you want to give me his short bio because I know we just skip the corrections. 60 years of age, six feet tall, known as the ice man, Dutch extreme athlete. Extreme athlete. I mean, he gets like ass naked and runs around on like glaciers and stuff and spends hours outside, not advisable, no shoes, that's the worst part. I mean, you want to say run a marathon in the snow, you know, in one of those speedos you
Starting point is 00:11:09 see European dudes at, you know, wearing on the beach and South Beach. he's doing that on like by a glacier like the revenant with no shoes that's the worst part he can also submerge himself in ice cold water like ice baths up to the neck for hours
Starting point is 00:11:27 and his body temperature doesn't drop there's all this stuff actually his body temperature I think rises there's all this stuff that he claims that he's kind of like a superhero and I kind of believe it so check out Wim Hof but one of the big things I took from Wimhaugh
Starting point is 00:11:40 and I will never run around in the snow and a thong not going to do it. I wouldn't even know where to find a glacier. One of the best things about Wim Hof is this cold shower thing. Cryotherapy is great. Don't have a cryo machine. Hop in a really cold shower.
Starting point is 00:11:58 I'm sure somebody's going to critique me and tell me that it's scientifically much different. If you can stand your shower being as cold as possible, hop in there to start your day. You can't do it in the summer because a lot of the water gets heated up to a point where it's not frigid. But when it gets cold enough,
Starting point is 00:12:15 I start my day off and I get addicted to it, these ice cold showers. You get in there for like a minute and you damn near hyperventilate. It's not as bad as it sounds. But then your breathing gets controlled and you feel good.
Starting point is 00:12:29 It's almost like you get out of the shower with a buzz. And they say it raises a bunch of hormones in your body that you absolutely need to elevate your mood, the way you feel the rest of the day. I am endorsing the Wimhoff method in the shower. You just do it for a minute?
Starting point is 00:12:44 Yeah, about a minute if you can stand it. It's life-changing. And is that your complete shower? A lot of times it can be. Do you soap up in that minute? Yeah, for sure. I mean, but I take three showers a day. Yeah, showers are great.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I would even advise you to take showers. But your subsequent showers are warmer. Yeah, like I do take a number of warm showers, but I try to get one shower a day. The first one. Yes. It's hard to explain to my. son who's waiting for me to get to the shower at like bedtime because you know we're
Starting point is 00:13:16 getting him in you know in his routine trying to get his PJs on I got to rinse off and I try to do my cold shower he's around the corner he's like why is dad had breathing hard in the shower that's not really something I want him to go to school talking about but it's the Wim Hof method I feel much better sometimes you do it before bed it can be calming your mind's racing at night try the cold showers so look up Wim Hof I don't know You can't sue this podcast, can you? If somebody freezes death in their shower
Starting point is 00:13:46 or tries to run a marathon out by a glacier. Say that you're not a doctor and you're not giving medical advice. I'm not a doctor. I'm not giving medical advice. I just fucking... I just love Wim Hof. How long do we get?
Starting point is 00:14:01 I didn't finish the word. I didn't finish the word. Okay, that's one. So we're pretty low. I love WM-H-O-F for the people. Yeah. So I was rear-ended. I like cold showers, all having to do with snow, cold water, warm clothes.
Starting point is 00:14:20 I'm really into this winter thing. I never was, but now that I'm retired. I want to shout out my dad who had a birthday this week. Big Howie, 60 years old. 60, wow. Gonna need his skin care plan. Yeah. 60.
Starting point is 00:14:36 And I know for a fact he's not stabbing his face with needles. Yeah. He's just got these like, these jeans, man. I don't know what it is. He's a clean living guy. He looks about what, 48, and yet the people know that you're 34. Yeah, I know. So it doesn't much add up.
Starting point is 00:14:55 No, it doesn't add up. For me, I think a lot of it is him being a clean liver, doesn't drink, gets sleep, loves to sleep. Dude's a nap all-star. Dude could nap at 6 o'clock. How disorienting is waking up at 7 o'clock from a nap? Depends on how long the nap is, but yeah. Hour?
Starting point is 00:15:18 Two hours. Naps need to be 30. Tops, I'm telling you. 20 to 30. I could take a mean two-hour nap, but I wanted it at like 9 a.m. You know, 9, 10 a.m. A nap in the morning on a day that you've got to go out drinking later is a great move. If you can, you know, you know, when you have kids one day,
Starting point is 00:15:39 they're going to force you to wake up a little bit earlier and you like. you got to act, you know, like you're pitching in. My wife... Act like you're pitching in. My wife is an all-star. I mean, she kills it in the morning, and I am not a morning person. I try to get up as early and as respectfully as I can,
Starting point is 00:15:57 but she definitely is carrying the weight of the AM routine with the kids. But if you can get a nap in the morning, I think it's great. My dad, we digress here on the nap thing. My dad's 60 years old. 60 years old. she's a new 20. I hope I'm as cool as you when I get to be 60. Also, my brother, Kyle Long,
Starting point is 00:16:20 try to steal my dad's thunder on his birthday, you know, retiring. It's the ultimate dick move. He also wore his number. Is he just? Was it a tribute or is it a... Yeah, what's going on here, Kyle? I mean, I know you had to retire sometime.
Starting point is 00:16:37 And by the way, in all seriousness, I am so proud of my brother, man. Seven years in the NFL and, you know, three Pro Bowls. He was a fixture in Chicago, and he got a chance to play in one place for the same seven years, which is a remarkable feat in today's world in football. Any stretch longer than five or six on one team means you're a pretty damn good player.
Starting point is 00:17:02 And I know how much he had to deal with being not only my dad's son, but my brother, which is not like being my dad's son, but, you know, now I'm Kyle Long's brother. You know, so congrats to him. I mean, I'm very, I'm very proud of that dude. He grew up in Chicago. I mean, he said it in a tweet that he became a man in Chicago. And that's why I think it's so valuable to retire and have roots. I mean, a lot of these guys, and I did it at the end of my career, I had to leave, but my team that I played on left for L.A. So I didn't really have a choice, and I got cut, that little detail.
Starting point is 00:17:45 After two years on I.R., Kyle gets a chance to call one place home. You know, there's media opportunities there. He's probably going to have a home there in some capacity. He's got fans that love him there. It's really cool. And my proudest moments with Kyle were not the Pro Bowl years. You know, it's great. getting getting fights with them on the yeah getting recognized is great but i want to see what you do
Starting point is 00:18:14 when the chips are down and he he the last few years handled himself with class and kept getting up off the mat with a lot of injuries that are really hard and now he's he's north of 30 so i mean it's not like he were you know he's retiring from an age standpoint early so great career um very proud of you and at the end of day you're you're my brother first so this doesn't like what are we doing now man like i'm excited i'm excited for the next chapter try to think of retirement as a transition not a um the end of a chapter i mean this is just life goes on you'll do something else you'll be awesome at it he is a really funny engaging dude with a big heart uh he's riding around on a little motorcycle somewhere down in costa rica be safe yeah be safe on little motorcycles
Starting point is 00:19:03 I'm sure the little motorcycle doesn't appreciate it. No. A story I told on Riscilla was the first time me and my brother played. And again, it's the little brother, big brother. I know he doesn't compete with me, but, you know, he wants to play well the day he plays his big brother. And he was a really good player right off the Batten League. And we played them in St. Louis. And, of course, a lot of people probably know this.
Starting point is 00:19:29 He got in a big fight with my best friend. and I said it on the ringer pod, William Hayes was, I looked out on the field and Kyle was dragging William Hayes down the sideline, like Whalen drags his stuffed animals. Like, William was powerless. I saw the look in his eyes. And William to this day contends that if he would have gotten off his back,
Starting point is 00:19:50 he would have whoop Kyle's ass. And the worst part about that weekend is that there's so much pressure. Kyle wants to play well. I get it. he also has a shorter fuse than me and we've got 35 people there family friends etc there's a big dinner planned
Starting point is 00:20:11 afterwards which of course I'm going to be left the host so I don't want to lose and I sure don't want my brother get ejected because it's going to ruin the day and his dumb ass is going to get on a plane what's wrong I'm just watching you run off the sideline which did you get why didn't you get penalized for that did you? I didn't get penalized
Starting point is 00:20:30 I think they missed it in real time because I ran off the sideline with such confidence. I don't think anybody's ever run off the sideline. We need to put this in on post. Yeah, we can put it in on post. There's a flag comes out here and then you just bolt as fast as I've ever seen you run. Look at that.
Starting point is 00:20:46 I mean, I look fast. Yeah. Because Kyle's, like I said, Kyle's got, Kyle has got William Hayes in a bear hold. I mean, like, that's what it feels like to get mauled by a grizzly bear. And William Hayes is one of the strongest people I've ever met. the year before that happened and he's in a rage right now
Starting point is 00:21:05 and I'm like fuck I gotta go to dinner later with all these tense motherfuckers and I already cussed a bunch these tense people and Kyle's got to go to Kyle's got to get on his team playing um look at this just totally unnecessary
Starting point is 00:21:21 by Kyle yeah not a fumble that's a four pass so William's a really big instigator I talk about William Hayes on this pot a lot he um he was talking shit to kyle the whole game uh just trying to rile him up and i'm like well don't do it don't do it we had been on vacation a year earlier myself the rams d line mostly this was when kyle was coming out of oregon we went to Vegas memorial day rehab pool party Kyle hanging out with william hayes their best buddies get back to the room every day william hayes is so cool i love him just wait
Starting point is 00:21:56 Kyle actually carried me out of rehab that day. 5 p.m. I go from drinking by the cabanas to getting carried like an infant out of rehab by my collegiate brother. You won't let go of him. I won't let go of his jersey. Now you're lecturing.
Starting point is 00:22:16 My veins are popping out of my neck. There's Alshan. Alshan was in Chicago. Hopefully we can add this in post. It's a good video. You know what I'm saying to Kyle there? I'm saying, are you fucking kidding me, dude? If not, if not Chris Long, Kyle Long, fight, I think is the first Google result.
Starting point is 00:22:34 Yeah, just Google it. And it's so funny because a lot of people think we got in a fight. We did not get in a fight. I was trying to avoid him getting ejected. So I saved him money. He owes me. Also, other great Kyle's stories, he once fractured my rib. Do you know this part, this one?
Starting point is 00:22:51 Mm-mm. So joint practices, when he was in Chicago, up to New England and I was running a loop stunt from left end and that means I'm crossing the guard's face. I crossed his face. I beat him and Kyle was like I'm not letting my brother beat me in joint practice so he whips around with his right arm to try to stop me like you know just like a really what's that thing in a parking lot a gate parking gate he's going to be like a parking gate because I'm already past him by about a yard. He whips his arm around and hits me right in the rib. Fractured rib, I felt that for probably six to eight weeks. And thank you for that, Kyle.
Starting point is 00:23:37 Next time, just let me beat you in practice. Well, there is no next time. Another thing, we shared the field, the double doinck night, which will come up in a bit. Also, just when you watch your brother play football for a long time and I said this yesterday on the ringer I'm watching a toddler and I'm not meaning that disparagingly like my little brother will always be my little brother I don't care how big he gets
Starting point is 00:24:04 I don't care how successful he gets to me I see the same kid with that curly blonde hair and a scar on his head from when I hit him with a baseball bat by accident 36 stitches worst day of my life he was being helpful we were playing baseball behind the house
Starting point is 00:24:20 how old man I was probably I mean he's four years younger than me or three and a half years younger than me so I was probably five or six and he was probably like three and my dad will tell the story and say when I want to there was so much blood Chris it was terrifying I mean it scarred me probably mentally for a long time as a kid because I did not mean to hit him at all like why would a five year old hit his brother he was a little metal bat but it split him him right here, 36 stitches.
Starting point is 00:24:55 Supposedly you could see his skull. That's gross. It's really gross, but this, you know, the moral of the story is, I still see that kid with the little scar on his head, the blonde curls, you know, then the kid that, you know, was too big for his body in high school, didn't know what he was doing, but just everything he did he was great at. I mean, whether it was baseball, whether it was football, you want to play baseball? throwing 96 we talked about in a live stream Eric McGray and Coach Wookie was here he was
Starting point is 00:25:24 telling a story about cow was a left-hand or drafted by the white socks through 96 topped out at as a lefty at 290 pounds how scary was that and he had good movement on his ball could hit the ball about 500 feet he um he was throwing 91 all day in states and some kid like I don't know what it was he beamed them or something or he he he pimped the home run Yeah. And then so Kyle, the next to bat, he's been throwing 91, 91, 91, 96 drills the kid. Yeah. So he had a little bit extra in the tank.
Starting point is 00:25:59 You know, I've got plenty of stories. When I was 14, he was in Little League. I was like a Kyle super fan. I'd go to his Little League games, him and Howie, because they were on All-Stars together. Shout out to Howie Jr. First, shout out on the Greenlight Pod. Way overdue. Really first?
Starting point is 00:26:18 Probably. I'm going to interject. When did we talk about Howie J? Howie Jr. I don't know at some point. Well, Big Howie did, I know. Okay, Big Howie and Kyle used to fight like adult men at school and get pulled out of school.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Now, one was a foot taller than the other one, but Howie did not give a shit. He would pick up picture frames, foreign objects, like whatever. That was his move. And it probably still is if it came down to it. But Howie is not afraid of Kyle. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Howie is less afraid of Kyle than, 99.9% of the planet. Kyle used to play Little League Baseball with, you know, Howie and Kyle, Kyle was the pitcher, or Howie was the catcher, Kyle was the pitcher. And they used to get into fights on the mound when, Howard would come out and lecture him, like, looking right up at him and being like, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:08 like throw strikes or whatever, like not the curveball, man. And how he's just ordered him around. It was like Pinky and the brain. Kyle was a really good Little League player as well. And I would go sit out in the outfield and I remember catching one of his home run balls with my bare hand in the city championship. So like I've been watching Kyle do Little League,
Starting point is 00:27:28 then take his baseball talents down to Tallahassee, not for him, left there, Juko. I think I'll come out for the football team. I remember I was pretty good. I was getting offers from Ohio State and such, like a four or five star kid. I think I'll play Juko football. Okay, two years later, first round,
Starting point is 00:27:50 pick. Went to Oregon, of course, had a good year there. So congratulations, Colin, a great career. And then more than anything, I'm just proud of the dude he is. And I think people in Chicago see he's got a huge heart. So congrats to him. And what was your interjection on Howie? Howie is boy three of three. Yep. Kid three of three. And he got the Howie Jr. one do you know why two is your life different if you are kid number one in howie junior yeah probably i probably don't play football at all if i'm howie junior because it would just been too much you know like too much howie you know i think for dad is one of those things that by the third kid they were like we're out of names we're out of names yeah let's run it back let's run
Starting point is 00:28:40 it back um and howie's got a sweet middle name howie francesco long i didn't know that yeah uh you know my my granddad frank adenizio shout out to him god rest of soul one of my favorite people of all time um he was short frank for francesco so i do have a little italian in me i'm not all irish um and howie i think got the fearlessness of my dad like truly you know smallest dude but a lot of fearlessness, a lot of toughness. And he had no choice growing up, you know, and Kyle and him were Irish twins. So they'd fight, like I said, like they'd come home from school.
Starting point is 00:29:23 They would fight in the locker room so bad in John Blake, football, our high school football coach, they would fight so bad like there'd be projectors flying and, you know, like how he would, you know, how he would take his lumps, but not back in the way. down um howie was a quarterback and how he was a quarterback yeah the uh the the jo cane of staff football and i'm sorry if that metaphor goes bad at some point i forget if joe cane ended up being a good
Starting point is 00:29:53 character in the program when i said mm-hmm that was that was me lying i don't i don't remember if he resolved as a good character in that movie um speaking of movies and tv first off question though when is it A couple things. When is it too late to say Merry Christmas? December the 26th. I got a Merry Christmas at the bar at the end of an awkward conversation the other night. So we're talking January 4th. January 4th. Yeah, that's too late.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Great to see you. Merry Christmas. Okay, have a good night. No, starting 1226, you can say, I hope you had a Merry Christmas. Yeah, you can say that. When is it too late to say Happy New Year? That gets tougher. maybe the Feast of the Epiphany, January the 6th. The Feast of the Sudden Realization. Is that a religious thing? Yeah. Nice. I got to brush up. I am a spiritual man.
Starting point is 00:30:53 No, you are. But let me think about that. January 6th. Nah, I'm still probably saying it. I'm still saying it. I would, let's break out the calendar. Yeah, Monday, January the 13th, I'm going to cut it off there. Okay, that's fine. I'm going to say it all the way through January. Now, let me ask you this.
Starting point is 00:31:15 This is the real question. When is it? Not a bad thing. At what, yeah, no. At what point does it become, it is still, it's not a question as a statement. I believe it is still inappropriate for my lovely wife, Meg, to when I leave the house for eight to ten hours. pick up an eight-foot Christmas tree and throw it outside that's been sitting in the family room.
Starting point is 00:31:43 What day? What day did she do it? Two, three days ago. Yeah, no, that's right. No, that's not right. I support having a pine tree in your house year round. Well. I want to start a movement.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Take the ornaments off. I love the smell. It makes me feel like it might be Christmas. I did that one year, went into late March, and it became a wildly dangerous fire hazard. That's when you replaced the pine tree. Right, and maybe I should have kept watering it. Yeah, maybe. But no, you definitely have to get that out by the Feast of the Epiphany, the Christmas tree.
Starting point is 00:32:24 Got you. Or else it's bad luck. What happened at the Epiphany? There was a feast. And a sudden realization, huh? Yep. Nice. Yeah, I just didn't think that was okay.
Starting point is 00:32:40 And if Meg, if you're listening to this pod, because you say that you listen to my pod sometimes, that hurt because I was going to keep that thing rolling the entire year long. It was a pretty tree. It was a really nice tree. Dr. Fax, by the way, threw his tree when he lived in Jacksonville
Starting point is 00:33:00 in a high rise and played for the Jaguars. Nate Collins, Dr. Fax. through his tree. You missed this. This was when you were absent one day. Dr. Fax threw his Christmas tree down the trash shoot. Oh, God. How did you die?
Starting point is 00:33:18 You got impaled by a falling Christmas tree that Dr. Fax threw. I thought you were going to say off a balcony. I think he might have said, I don't, we can run that back. If anybody remembers who's watching. Down the trash shoot is funnier. It was the trash shoot.
Starting point is 00:33:34 Just sap and make. They got maple in pine trees, right? And you got pine and pine trees. What's the sappy stuff? Sap. So then the maple comes in the maple tree. That's right. But why do they call it sap when it's a pine tree and not like...
Starting point is 00:33:49 You're thinking of syrup. Oh, okay. So it's sap on a maple tree too. Yeah. You ever think about that? No, never. Yeah? It's kind of fucked up.
Starting point is 00:33:59 By the way, Vince Carter's making history. I just wanted to mention him because we don't do a lot of NBA. this is worth mentioning. Vince Carter is playing in four decades as of this week. Longevity. My goodness. George Blanda, John Carney, Vinitieri, if he returns.
Starting point is 00:34:20 Those are the three NFL players. So shout out to him. I hope we have that kind of longevity on this pod. Four decades on this pod. Can we do it? No, we can't. We were talking about TV
Starting point is 00:34:32 because last night, and I've been so busy, somebody brought up the amazing race and it made me realize that I had no concept of what was actually going on in the show it's one of the shows for me that I know there's a race it's not a show anymore is it or is it I have no idea it's still a show it's a blind spot for me
Starting point is 00:34:51 I think it's probably a great show it sounds cool when it was explained to me but I never watched shows and what it made me realize I have had this void in my life where I didn't watch enough TV and I tried the TV thing out last night. I literally do not turn the TV on unless it's a sporting event. Like period. I've been so busy.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I sat down, I turned on the TV, there's this show. It's got four Xs on the desk, right? You've got Howie Mandel. You have two other people. I can't remember who they are. And then you have Simon Cowell, who seems like he's had some work done. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Guys in the back are nodding. I think Simon Cowell's had work done. By the way, I'm not anti-Simon Cowell. I am anti-Simon Cowell. Did he do something? Or just a number of things. Number of things. Are there any I should know about before I said I'm not anti-Syman Cal?
Starting point is 00:35:53 Well. I just don't think I'm responsible for all of Simon Cowell's. You got yourself a wife, right? Yeah. I wouldn't be friends with Simon Cowell. Oh, he. you care about your wife. Did he?
Starting point is 00:36:03 But we're assuming that my wife would, would leave me for like a Buzz Lightyard looking dude that had his face sliced up like Hannibal Lecter. I'm not team Simon. So you're saying he did a, you know what? I'm not going to say it. Yes, he did.
Starting point is 00:36:25 Yeah, well, anyways, the show, I have no idea what it's called, but it's compelling. I'm sitting there, you know, just, there's people singing, there's people juggling, and doing magic tricks. You know it's called America's Got Talent.
Starting point is 00:36:38 Now I do. 15 minutes I'm sitting there and I have no clue what the show is. I know I've heard of it. I've never really watched it. I don't know if the X is on the desk or a new thing. I'm not a fan of it.
Starting point is 00:36:50 Do they pipe in crowd noise to that thing? I don't know. I don't watch it. People were screaming. And then they show the crowd and everybody's like, you know, like they all get a white little balloon stick or something
Starting point is 00:37:02 and they're supposed to, you know, there's like an applause thing and whatnot. But they definitely pipe sound in that thing. Anyways, I saw this guy, this huge dude get up there from like Australia or some shit or New Zealand. He was 6-8, like 350. Crookie. Yeah, Croyke. He was lifting Atlas Stones. He lifts one, 260-pound Atlas Stone.
Starting point is 00:37:23 He sets it down. Another 260-pound Atlas Stone sets it down. Really tough to do that. I have no idea how, I don't know how you manage. but I'm like, strong man, it's not going to get it done. I'm starting to get the concept
Starting point is 00:37:36 of the show. The judges are perplexed. He puts a big seat down, rested on the Atlas Stones. There's like a 15 second awkward silence. And then he just starts singing. And he's just belting out. Like,
Starting point is 00:37:50 and he sounds awesome. But it hit me that he stole Jordan, Mayata's whole gig, who's from the Eagles, 6'8, 3.50, from down under. sings like Chris Stapleton. Croikey.
Starting point is 00:38:06 Yeah. But the point is that I actually enjoyed the show, and I get why a lot of people just mindlessly stare at a TV. That 30 minutes went byfessional, any 30 minutes in my day. I'm going to get more into TV. There's a lot I grew up with that I did not watch, that everybody else always talks about, and I feel super weird. When you're at a table and somebody's talking about Saved by the Bell
Starting point is 00:38:27 and references like characters and jokes, I just do the uneasy smelling shit face. Yeah, can we, for those watching on YouTube, I've pulled a picture for you. Can you name any of those people? Okay, the girl on the left, is that Topanga? He's looking at Kelly Kapowski right now. A lot of consonants in both those names. Anybody else?
Starting point is 00:38:56 Maybe the guy on top, you can probably pull. Oh, you know what? I forgot about him. He had a long neck. Spencer? Screech. Screech. Justin Diamond. It's Zach Morris, of course, A.C. Slater. Of course.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Kelly, right? Kelly and Jesse? Is everybody in like an 80s heavy metal band? Like are all the women in an 80s heavy metal band? Look at that hair. Jesse Span. And this is saved by the bell, yeah? Yeah, this is saved by the bell. This is...
Starting point is 00:39:28 Deductive reasoning on my part. This is... We are, what are we? We're 80s babies. Are we 90s kids? Yeah. Yeah, that's canon for 90s kids. That's the show.
Starting point is 00:39:40 No, I know. So when people start making... Kelly Turtle? People start making references to that show. I just do the smelling shit face. I just sit there at the table. I'm like, I love screech.
Starting point is 00:39:53 Remember when his neck was really long? Lisa Turtle. It's Lisa Turtle. It's been a while. I should have done some. Did you like that show? Oh, my gosh. Really?
Starting point is 00:40:01 Kelly Kapowski first love, wanted to be Zach Morris, yeah. Maybe you turned out better than Zach Morris, buddy. We'll see. Mark Paul Gossilar, whatever his name is, is still rocking. Is that the apex, the pantheon of 90s kids' shows? It's a gold standard. Well, yeah, there's some different categories, because you have the Nickelodeon stuff. Now, I watch some Nickelodeon.
Starting point is 00:40:23 I watch the show where you get gacked on the mountain. Well, there was double dare. There was Legends of the Hidden Temple. Yep, I watched that. What was the one with the big mountain inside? Splash Mountain. Oh, Agro-Krague. Agro-Krag.
Starting point is 00:40:41 Was that the name of the show, though? No, but that was the object. Yeah. Another show was, I was really into Are You Afraid of the Dark? Imagine having nightmares over Are You Afraid of the Dark? Yeah, I was not into it because I was too afraid of it. A lot of kids went in the bed over that show. Couldn't watch it.
Starting point is 00:40:56 The two best Nickelodeon shows. Doug. Doug was good. Rugrats. Rugrats was good. Now shows I also didn't watch. I was, I don't know what the deal was with me.
Starting point is 00:41:09 My childhood was Howard the Duck, Terminator movies. Like I was watching The Predator before I was watching Saved by the Bell. And I skipped Saved by the Bell. I skipped Fresh Prince, although I knew more about Fresh Prince. Like I watched it probably more than I watched other stuff. But I wasn't like I was out on those inside jokes. And then Home,
Starting point is 00:41:31 Home Improvement. That's the cool show, like the cool show to talk about. Sort of. I would say it's in a slightly different category. I think saved by the Bell and Fresh Prince are in the same category. That's what your peers were watching.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Home Improvement, I think, had a broader scope. Yeah, like adults could watch it. Yeah. Now, I don't get the joke. Don't get the joke. Yeah. Tim Allen.
Starting point is 00:41:57 No, I know. What about the TGIF shows? Hey, hold on, tool time. Right? Tool time. Remember that from that show? With Tim the Toolman Taylor. You remember the Fresh Prince of Bel Air?
Starting point is 00:42:08 He had to move. Yeah, from West Philadelphia. I remember Carlton? He was kind of a nerd. Yeah, you're pretty good for not having watched it. Remember Uncle Phil? He was a really good dude and everybody liked him. For the most part, I guess.
Starting point is 00:42:22 People liked him on the show, yeah? Yeah. Did he do something? I know he passed away. So God, the rest of the soul. No, I'm just talking about it on the show. Uncle Phil was He was tough but fair
Starting point is 00:42:32 Tough but fair Yeah And Will Smith Was he annoying? No So he's cool Yeah Okay
Starting point is 00:42:40 I did watch But I watched Nick at night Okay Because I think I had like The ability to be sneaky And sneak around So I was watching TV like pretty late Presumably
Starting point is 00:42:50 I'd have to go back and look at what time it was It seemed very late to me I was watching Mork and Mindy Oh Robin Williams Yeah Love Mork and Mendi drag net. Wow. And I'm talking about I was like 12 years old so I grew up a little fast there.
Starting point is 00:43:06 Also to my point, 2000s haven't been any better for me. Bachelor, Bachelorette, don't get it. I mean, I would watch it now that I'm a TV guy. These scripted or maybe not scripted reality shows aren't worth your time. Is there a show nowadays that if somebody says I'm big into that show, you're like huh and i'm not going to ever hang out with you again but i'm no i get it i get it there's bachelor nation is a thing people are really into like dog the bounty hunter show stuff like that like these weird like pawn stars and stuff or the east coast choppers west coast choppers buy you choppers but what about the digital streaming age i mean i'm into shows now. Right. Like the good stuff. The good stuff I'm into. Breaking Bad. Love it. Which granted was
Starting point is 00:44:01 what AMC. Masterpiece. Not Netflix. Yeah, masterpiece though. Uh huh? It's, it was a masterpiece. Probably number one for me. Um, you know, the wire was terrific. Sopranos. Sopranos is terrific. That's gotten better as I've gotten older. Um, low key, Danton Abbey is amazing. Not me. I, I know. Nobody else would say that. That's, that's, that's, oh yeah. Yeah, I like period pieces. Having gotten into Madman. I'm an anglophile. Madman's great. Yeah. Um, what, so did you miss any shows from your childhood or am I the only one? And do you have any theory on what the fuck happened to me? I don't know what happened to you. Do you have a TGIF blind spot as well? Family Matters, full house, boy meets world. Didn't really watch any of that. That was Topanga, right?
Starting point is 00:44:50 featuring Topanga. Yeah, step by step. You want to give me a quick, basic quiz to prove to the people that I absolutely have no idea what I'm doing on any of these shows. Sure. You couldn't identify Kelly Kapowski two minutes ago. Yeah, well, you're not going to be able to name any characters from any of these shows. Family Matters. It does. Carl, last name.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Al Bundy. I remember Al Bundy. I remember Roseanne, who's falling on some hard times that she brought on herself. We were looking for Carl Winslow. Yeah. Finally, what about the Seinfeld friends? Okay, so that part, to me, I resented homework time at home. School terrified me.
Starting point is 00:45:37 Meadhead. You know, I know I do a lot of, thank you. I do a lot of educational equity stuff now, so everybody thinks I'm some nerd. I was a bad student and a dummy. So for me, homework time was terrible. It was stressful. Not a dummy.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Not a dummy. You're really bright. Very bright. Thank you. You started a school newspaper. I did start a school newspaper. That I was blackmailed and told that if I disseminated it, I would have my offers rescinded. They would go and talk to the coaches.
Starting point is 00:46:11 I know you're like, I don't want to offend anybody here. Well, to be fair, our school newspaper was titled, saintly speaking, and Chris is, the one he created was called Satanly speaking. I wanted to test the limits. And you did. And I did. And the limit was that one of the head honchos of the school said that if I keep passing it out, and by passing it out, I printed like 10 copies and put it like. Might as well have been drugs that you were in.
Starting point is 00:46:42 I was basically peddling like kilos of cocaine. Yeah. I mean, she said, if you keep putting this on the table in the student lounge, and it was all nonsense. There was like nothing in there that was like, actually, it was just like articles about stupid shit that happened at school that she was going to call Virginia and tell them to pull my scholarship offer. So shout out to you.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Wow. Docs. Don't care. I, uh, yeah. I know I was a pain in the ass when I was a kid. There's no ifs ands or butts about it. I actually repeated a grade. I loved my experience in high school.
Starting point is 00:47:30 Yeah, I did too other than things like that. But I was rough around the edges, no doubt about it. I wouldn't have liked me either if I had met the 18-year-old mate at all. Don't like most 18-year-old people in general. When I meet one that's cool, I'm like, whoa, you're going to be very cool, adjusted for your age. Like, look out for you. Your DVOA is you're going to be a cool adult. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:55 But yeah, so TV Never been great at that I'm gonna try to watch more TV You know what I watch these days? What do you watch? Marvelous Mrs. Maisel Don't know that one. I don't think you'd like that one too much.
Starting point is 00:48:09 What about Fleabag? Don't know that one. Yeah. The Americans, I'm catching up. Is that a spy? Yeah. I want to see that one. That's good.
Starting point is 00:48:16 Yeah. I'd stay away from the other two, although they're terrific. Have you seen some recent ones? Jinks? Mm-mm. Robert Durst story. Mm-mm.
Starting point is 00:48:24 I'm into the short series. six to eight of them let's just be done with it yeah get to the point i'm with you there you know you got to unlike this pod you got to pack a lot speaking of yeah you want to talk about anything else yeah i do i do i want to talk about the new batman okay and i'm just going to be reading a lot of this because i asked you first off are you a batman guy no have you ever seen a batman movie well probably but um not of my own volition in the last two decades what's the guy's name with the on the villain that Tom Hardy played. Tom Hardy.
Starting point is 00:48:59 Tom Hardy isn't helped me at all, but the villain is, well, Batman. See, the things I'm missing, they were 25 years ago. What's your excuse? Hold on. There's like a penguin and a Joker or something?
Starting point is 00:49:12 There's also a guy with a gas mask on that looks like he's never seen this. Uh, Bane. Bain? Thank you. Is that in the original Batman story? What about the...
Starting point is 00:49:23 No, I don't know about these comics. they can put any fucking characters in they want. Like they'll put a character in in 20 years that's brand new and then go back and justify it from like, oh, but you didn't see that edition from 1963 and Stan Lee did that. And I know Stan Lee's probably not D.C. or D.C.'s not Marvel. I don't know, man.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I've had some teammates that filled their entire lockers. O.J. Togway filled his entire locker with comic books and comic book action figures. Blonde spot for me. I never had a childhood. I love real stuff. Yeah, you love real stuff. Well, a real thing that's coming out is a new Batman movie,
Starting point is 00:50:02 which actually looks pretty good. What prompted is last night, they said Colin Farrell is going to be the penguin. Is he that short? I say penguin. Over under on Colin Farrell's height. I'm going to set it at 5-11. You taking the over or the under?
Starting point is 00:50:17 Under. Okay, let's set it at 5-10. Under. I'm going to put it, I'm going to say it's 5-10. Okay, you're pushing? I'm pushing. I'm just saying that because most actors are short. They are.
Starting point is 00:50:31 And for you to be selected as Penguin, 5'10, and now I don't believe that you didn't... Promise you. Swear on this podcast. I wanted to look up his height, but I also didn't want to because I wanted to ask you that. How old is he? I mean, he's got to be 44.
Starting point is 00:50:47 He's 43. You probably looked it up. I'm excited to go off by one. But I did watch the movie in Bruges the other night. I don't know if you've seen that movie. People that love movies. I'm getting some nods back there. I couldn't do it.
Starting point is 00:51:01 I don't do good with the Dramydies. Pick one. Is this a dark movie? Is it funny? Don't have conversations like it's a play. And I'm sitting in the audience. Like there's a third party there. Talk like there's two people in the room.
Starting point is 00:51:15 It's a big pet peeve of mine. It happened to me with like Heller Highwater or three billboards. Because there were like three billboards written by like a playwright. Anyways, Colin Farrell is going to be Penguin and Rob Patterson, who I really, he was in the vampire stuff. Yeah, Twilight. Flexing my TV knowledge. He's Batman. Batman returns in 1992.
Starting point is 00:51:42 I read an interesting article. Keaton was Batman. Of course, DeVito was the Penguin, who's 410, a foot shorter than Farrell. Patinson. I know of, yeah, what a, good for him. I know of certain actors that have to wear like platform shoes like Tom Cruise and people like that
Starting point is 00:52:01 you can't go the other way so I don't know what they're going to do with Farrell Dustin Hoffman was almost the penguin which would have been super weird DeVito they said it took like four hours to put his makeup on every day Fyfer was Catwoman they said it actually hurt to wear that suit but I'm not upset that the suit was one
Starting point is 00:52:23 Annette Benning was supposed to be Catwoman, but she got pregnant. And this is the biggest kicker of all for Batman Returns, which was a really good movie. They had Batman, the writer had Batman being like chatty Batman, like he had a bunch of lines, and then Keaton was like, nah, I'm a minimalist. I'm just gonna grunt and make that really cool noise,
Starting point is 00:52:46 that like Batman voice noise. And that was a great call. Christopher Walkin was in there. was in there. Fun fact about the movie. They had their own, the penguins had like their own pool, dressing rooms,
Starting point is 00:53:03 like slides. So like when they weren't shooting, they were like just playing on slides. They kept the penguins happy. And, uh, of course, walking was Max Schreck, the, uh,
Starting point is 00:53:14 the rich guy. The craziest thing to me, though, was Michelle Pfefer, that scene when she had a bird in her mouth. I thought it was fake, but I guess they don't have CGI back then. That was a real bird.
Starting point is 00:53:22 heard. Yeah. Peta would have killed her today. She held a bird in her mouth for five seconds and then it flew out. It's crazy. So I'm going to be watching Batman. We're watching more TV. Do you want to do this wild card thing? I mean, we're like 30 minutes in the pod. And I'm leaving in 30 minutes so we better get to it. Yeah, let's get it going. You got to sell real estate in the snow. Yep. I love this weekend, by the way. Did you have any big, like, like, hey, this is what I saw. This is what I loved about this weekend. Was this a good weekend of football for you?
Starting point is 00:53:57 They were all close. Super weekend, yeah. I think the two Saturday, the two Sunday, excuse me, Saturday and Sunday, you can't beat. Yeah, it's the best time of year with the NFL. I love the NFL being all on Sunday, but it feels like I wish college football. I wish we had one less work day.
Starting point is 00:54:19 College football was Friday. And then Saturday and Sunday. were split. So you didn't have all those football games. All the time? Yeah, I'd like that. Oh. Three days of football?
Starting point is 00:54:32 You want college football on Fridays? Yeah, if they took, if we had one less work day in America. Oh. Imagine a three-day weekend in the fall where we have college football on a Friday, or maybe you do pro football on Friday, you do half the games on Friday,
Starting point is 00:54:48 you do all the college football games on Saturday, and you do half the games on Sunday. I love less to look at. You can be more, I've discovered as a fan this year, trying to watch Red Zone, trying to do this for work. You watch 10 games, but you don't really understand all of them. You have to go back and study them later to understand it, but you can't in real time.
Starting point is 00:55:10 The way you watch Wildcar Weekend, you know everything that happened, like right off the bat. And for me, the best game of the weekend, the most fun game of the weekend for me, even though people, it was a bunch of shitty football, was the first one. Yeah. And you almost predicted the score.
Starting point is 00:55:26 I had 1916 on last week's Greenlight Pod. It was 1916 with, I think, a second to go. Went to overtime, final score 2219. So Buffalo's skid continues. Buffalo, by far, most offense of the eight squads on Wild Card weekend. Yeah. Kind of screwed it up. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:55:50 The first half was terrific. and I made this comment, I'll make it again. Josh Allen, the best metaphor for me, Ryversillo said he's the dad that's aggressive and you're at the beach and ushering you over to talk to girls and you're like, no dad, like, I didn't get that one as much
Starting point is 00:56:12 because my dad never did that. I don't know what he's saying, I'll have to... You got to go back and look at it. Listen to that pub. I think Josh Allen is a roller coaster at a really ambivalest. ambitious roller coaster at a very localized carnival run by drunk carnies. It could be thrilling.
Starting point is 00:56:31 You're going to get the big throws. You're going to get a run that makes you say, wow. And you're also going to get the lateral. Yeah, that was bad. It was awful. You don't know what you're going to get. And Deshaun, who, to your point, you pointed out in the first half, his eyes were down the whole first half.
Starting point is 00:56:51 And you're like, what's he doing? Yeah. Like every play looked the same. Every play. Yep. And I wondered if it was like one of those situations where they weren't getting enough people out in the route. You know, we talked about, we've talked about that with other teams as well.
Starting point is 00:57:11 And so people aren't open. They didn't have full over course. I think they could use a more dynamic tight end. You know, I think he throws it. When he's throwing the tight ends successfully, they're hard to beat. If they can go out to get a more dynamic one next year, they're going to be a lot better.
Starting point is 00:57:31 But you look up at the end of the game, of course he makes that big play. And then Duke Johnson with the second biggest play of the game, imagine escaping Cleveland to make that play. He never would have had a feeling like that in Cleveland, so I'm glad he escaped. You look up at the end of the game, he's got these great stats, Deshawn.
Starting point is 00:57:51 I think he was, was he 20 of 25? Yeah. So the whole game, you're like, he's not playing that great, but he just slowly but surely puts this big game together, and he puts that big moment together. He almost plays better when they're down and he's pressed. I don't think Houston is a team that's going to make any noise this weekend. I think Kansas City rolls,
Starting point is 00:58:11 but a good win for them. Certainly it seemed at times like neither team was trying to win. That sequence there at the end with the two Josh Allen sacks was like a video game was broken. I don't know what the computer was doing. And then the fourth and one was awful because it was a long fourth and one. October 13th, Texan's 31, Chiefs 24, and Arrowhead.
Starting point is 00:58:37 Don't like it. Don't like it this time around. Actually, the line was 10. In that game? No, the line's 10 this weekend. I looked at the bed America odds were Kansas City, minus 10.
Starting point is 00:58:52 and I actually like Houston to cover. Yeah. But I like Kansas City to win. I mean, to me, it's, to me, it's, Kansas City is a different team than they were in October. And we've talked about it ad nauseum here. It's ad nauseum, right? Yes.
Starting point is 00:59:09 Nice. You know, the other games, Seattle, Philly, it was ugly. It was very ugly. It was damn near unwatchable. Fletcher Cox played great, by the way. He was worth the price of admission. Those guys played hard.
Starting point is 00:59:27 At the end of the day, that team was not going to be a Super Bowl player as bad as you want to be. There were too many injuries. Carson's, of course, being the biggest. Of course, we had the out, the fallout of some really shitty tweets. And I'm not even going to take the time to mention all of them.
Starting point is 00:59:46 You can go to Twitter.com. You can go to Twitter.com. But listen, a guy with an injury history that's more traditional. you know like broken bones soft tissue etc getting drilled in the back of the head and it's blunt forced trauma it's not just like getting hit in the back of the head in the pocket it's your head in the ground and clownie's hit which was dirty let's call it what it is he doesn't deserve a life sentence for it i mean like he'll get fine um great player great athlete he's such a good
Starting point is 01:00:19 athlete that he was able to launch his dome at Carson's dome in that situation. You know how hard it is to fall like that without your arms out to brace you and know that you're going to like running full speed and then drill somebody in the back of the head. That concussion, that would happen to anybody. A football cow Ripkin would be out cold smelling salts up his nose with that hit. Carson in fact got up and tried to come back in the game. Well, I think he played a couple snaps. Yeah. So my thing is anybody, former players or media members, media members who are profiting off our game, and yes, our game, and we can all share it,
Starting point is 01:00:57 don't, there's just a time and a place to talk about somebody's durability, and it's not part of the pattern because they're not the same injuries. They're just not. If it would happen to anybody, it's not the same injury. That would be like somebody who had injury history in the NBA getting shoved into a stanchion, right?
Starting point is 01:01:16 That's what you call it. Stanchion. Right? Yeah. Which is the thing under the basket. And like on a dirty, questionable play, getting shoved into the stanchion, breaking a wrist or an elbow and you saying,
Starting point is 01:01:30 it's always something with him. Now, I will, I will name one name because, I mean, okay, I'll name them all. Danny Cannell, a lot of shit he takes. This one I thought was, I don't just disagree with you. I don't just respectfully disagree with you.
Starting point is 01:01:44 I disrespectfully disagree with you. Mm-hmm. Justina Anderson and Tori Holt, who I know Tori, so the history with Tori to me is, you're a good dude, probably didn't know. Because initially, when Carson was walking to the tunnel, we were all like what happened. I mean, I remember the hit.
Starting point is 01:02:02 When it happened, we were all like on the live stream. It was like, that was dirty. But he got back up and got in the game. So when he's walking in the locker room, everyone was like, what is it? So he tweets, it's always something with Carson Wentz. Justina quote tweets him, and Josina's history in Philly,
Starting point is 01:02:15 if you don't know it, you know, there's been reports she'd been trying to break up the team a little bit, anonymous sourcing, anti-Carsson hit pieces. However you feel about Carson Wentz, this is not the time. And she says, I know, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. I know Tori, dot, dot, dot, dot. Now, Tori deletes his tweet. Jacina doesn't.
Starting point is 01:02:36 And Jacina has backtracked and said, that's not what I meant, et cetera. Do you think that's what she meant? No, no pressure. Well, how soon did she say, I know? 5.44 p.m. So she might not have known at that point either. I think she knew. Because if you were listening to the game,
Starting point is 01:02:56 and this is what you have to do, if you're saying something in a biased manner and you're reporting on our game, you have to be careful if you have a history of disliking the player, you have to be careful, period, commenting on injuries. Even if you don't know, to me, that just means tweet better
Starting point is 01:03:12 and remember your history, because it's undeniable that you're anti-Carson. So, I mean, with that history and some other things that Josina and I have been through in St. Louis that I remember and she remembers, I'm sure. To me, that looks like you're saying exactly what you're saying. Now, the thing I don't appreciate are some of the comments under that. And that's the bad part about Twitter is you make a point and then everybody backs you up and they're overzealous. And there were some really negative mean comments on there that, although I do not like justine and for what she did and I do think she's full of shit backtracking and I'm sure she's done a lot of
Starting point is 01:03:51 great things but this is one of them that I just didn't agree with it's not worth and it's never okay to say some of the things I saw in the comments you want to tell somebody they're an asshole whatever you want to tell them they're stupid that was a stupid comment whatever but some of the personal attacks they got a little bit borderline and over the line in fact in some situations I just want to take the time to say that's that's bullshit. We can't do that as fans. I don't care if that was a classless commentary, whatever. So Carson sure has an injury history,
Starting point is 01:04:31 but a concussion, especially the last game of the year, he's going to have plenty of time to come back from that. The future looks brighter for the Eagles next year. I think they at least have to go out and target a big name wide receiver and free agency. Here's the other thing. Philly's not going to have another year like this where there every single person on the team is hurt. Really? It's kind of been a trend. No, it can't happen again. It can't happen again. Not to this degree, but the last four years,
Starting point is 01:04:58 whether it was a Super Bowl run, whether it was 18, there have been a lot of injury issues and they have to address that. Everybody knows it in Philly. AJ Green. AJ Green's out there. Larry Fitz. Oh, Fitz. It would be great. I'm looking at UFAs. Emmanuel Sanders. Sanders post Super Bowl. I think he's going to want to stay. Mari Cooper. Mari Cooper could be a great one.
Starting point is 01:05:22 And Amari Cooper, his home road splits, we've talked about him, have not been great. He wasn't on the field for Dallas and some big situations late in the year. You wonder if they're going to move on from him with McCarthy arriving. We'll talk about that in a minute. I don't know. But that's priority number one for me. Give me somebody who's going to stretch the field in Philly
Starting point is 01:05:42 and help this guy out who's been on. under siege all year long. And then of course there was the game that a lot of people call the game of the week because two really good teams it looks like. Vikings, they're hit or miss, but they've got a great roster. And Kirk grew up before our eyes on Sunday
Starting point is 01:06:01 getting his first big win in the playoffs. So quick blurb on Cousins while we're here. A lot of people are freaking out because he hasn't won the big one. I've been kind of arguing that you kind of have to forget about his history as a quarterback, just like we do with Tom Brady or any of these quarterbacks who are aging
Starting point is 01:06:19 or have different skill sets around them or the context is different. He's played in his second playoff game now. There was a four-year gap and he got the win in the toughest place there is to win in the playoffs, along with Seattle or Arrowhead. So that's the Ferrari of first big wins.
Starting point is 01:06:42 You know, that's the metaphor for me, The guy, everybody makes fun of him for not having a car. You know, he's been riding the bus for years. One day he rolls up past the bus stop in a Ferrari. And that's how he's feeling this week. So it's dangerous to give him confidence. I think with the pieces around him, this is the one team that didn't limp into the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:07:00 They actually got healthier. They got feeling back. They got cooked back. He looked awful against Green Bay. He looked pretty capable down in New Orleans. In our 2020 quarterback draft, who we would want to lead our clubs next year.
Starting point is 01:07:14 Cousins went 16th overall. Did he really? To team making. That was probably overreactive. Now, Kirk Cousins and the Vikings, I like them in San Francisco to cover. The line's like a touchdown. That's a look ahead. But when things are right for him, and that's the big key,
Starting point is 01:07:34 because when you're drafting quarterbacks and he slips that far in our little thing, the big question is, does he have the skill players around? him. I mean, whatever you think about him, he needs it. He needs a no line that's stable. He needs stealing healthy. Who do we take in front of him? Well, I've now scrolled down to our Slack feed saying that people are supporting my marvelous Mrs. Maisel take, which frankly I'm shocked about, but really happy about at the same time. That's a great. I have no idea what you're talking about left that you just gave.
Starting point is 01:08:10 No, but it just sounds very, no offense, it sounds, it sounds feminine. It does not sound like a guy show. That's probably fair. Okay. Not that I can't watch shows with female leads, but the whole, it sounds like Mary Poppins to me. That's what I'm associating with it. No? Mary Poppins.
Starting point is 01:08:34 Nah. Anyways, you've got Minnesota going to San Francisco, of course, now, and you've got, at Seattle going up to Green Bay. I like both road dogs. And again, OPI, that was a big story. You took Josh Allen right ahead of Kirk Cousin. I would, I would. I still would, though.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Okay. This year, though, Kurt Cousin's been the top 10 quarterback this year. Now next year, I don't know what's going to happen. Okay. This is the perfect storm for him. That's fair. And that's the whole thing with Kirk Cousins is,
Starting point is 01:09:04 if we're judging quarterbacks on this year, people are so afraid to do that because of the legacy of some guys or because of the history, Kirk Cousins has been bad at times. But this year, statistically, where he's brought his team, now the roster's been good,
Starting point is 01:09:20 et cetera, he won the big game down in Dallas that all week leading up, it's like, you got to bet against Kirk, right? Because he's not going to win the big game. Then he wins it and it's like, oh, well, it's just Dallas.
Starting point is 01:09:31 You go to Seattle. They put up 30 in Seattle. Now, Seattle's defense is not great, but he lose 3730. Not his fault. I mean, he could have, there were a couple throws. he won it back, but I don't think, I think he's shedding that, that label. Is it an anomaly?
Starting point is 01:09:48 Who knows? The future will, that's why we picked him 16. But this year he's been a top 10 quarterback. Would you argue with that? I guess not. Brian Nelson thinks Marvelous Mrs. Maisel is a visually stunning masterpiece. I look forward to checking it out. And it is hot as a motherfucker in my little baby snowsuit. Macon left. He had to sell real estate. Um, that's our community is. Great real estate agent. Great podcast co-host. Shout out to Macon. I hope the, uh, the showing went well. Uh, so for, from here on out, I'll be finishing the pod and, uh, he'll be back Friday. So, coaching stuff. It's enough fun bullshit today. I know you guys actually like, I just sit snowing out. I want to go
Starting point is 01:10:42 home. I want to go sledding with my kids. So I'm going to wrap this up pretty quick. I know I was to break down some real football stuff. The big thing for me today, and you watch Stephen A talk about it on first take, and I didn't make a lot of mistakes on first take. Stephen A tweeted me because I was saying that at the beginning of the segment, it seemed like they were just, the entire segment was predicated on the fact Joe Judge was a wide receiver coach. Joe Judge, who obviously got hired in New York with the Giants, a head scratcher for a lot of people, myself included, even though I really liked Joe Judge, it just came out of nowhere for me.
Starting point is 01:11:15 I had heard he was going to get the Mississippi State. job. He's obviously not just the wide receiver coach. And that was my gripe is like, if you got a big show like Stephen A has, you can't, and I make a ton of mistakes on here. But with all the people you have working for you on first take, you can't scream that he's a wide receivers coach. The entire segment, I get that the point of the segment was the Rooney rule. But to me, I'm thinking to myself, now you got a bunch of people walking around saying, yeah, and the Giants hired this fucking wide receiver coach. Actually, this year he was a wide receiver. Chiefish coach and a special teams coordinator,
Starting point is 01:11:50 which is what he's done since O'Brien left in 15. And he's a really good special teams coordinator. Shout out to Nate Ebner, Matt Slater. He's learned from and taught a lot of great players. He's also a really good motivator. But the point remains, and I agree with Stephen A. Smith, the Rooney rule is not cutting it. There are not enough black head coaches in a league where most of the players are black.
Starting point is 01:12:12 And I know a lot of really good black position coaches and coordinators, and there seems to be a disconnect in how these billionaire owners are interviewing, even if they're skating by somehow on a technicality, making guys go through the interview process. You know, the running joke is that there's one coach that's got to take, who's the guy that's got to take the Rooney Rule interview every year for his job? Because there's always one guy. And it sucks because I bet these guys are walking in.
Starting point is 01:12:40 They're like, am I even really in the running for this job? and that just it's a shame and I don't know how to fix it I talked to a couple of my buddies and I think the biggest way you can fix that is to infiltrate the ownership alliance if you will because they do work as a team and that's why I think PDDD like making a run at ownership sent I heard some negative waves and I don't know what Jay Z can do for social justice I think this thing with the NFL and social justice has become a real mess even for the guys that are trying to do good. I don't even know.
Starting point is 01:13:17 I don't know how you, I don't know how. That's a whole other pod. It's just gotten to be such a shit show, so much infighting in politics. It's hard for me. Anyways, I think Jay-Z can do more with ownership
Starting point is 01:13:33 than he can with social justice, and maybe that's the play, is if you can infiltrate this group, you get more, you get more, you get more diversity in that group and then you can actually make decisions and really press your peers to make decisions
Starting point is 01:13:49 that move the needle forward when it comes to diversity in the NFL. I mean, like, I've been talking about Bienemy for weeks and maybe he's not ready. I don't know, maybe he feels he's not ready, maybe Andy feels he's not ready, I don't know. But I think Biener would have made a great coach down in Dallas. I think he would have made a great coach in New York
Starting point is 01:14:11 I think Caldwell always got I always thought Caldwell got a bum rap in I got the short end of the stick in Detroit
Starting point is 01:14:23 it just didn't seem fair and then I can't stand Marvin Lewis don't like him but he's got a lot of experience and I think
Starting point is 01:14:35 you know if you're looking for experience you might want to give him a look too I wouldn't hire him that might be personal you got the Giants hiring Joe Judge who of course since 2015 Special Teams Coordinator in New England and in a
Starting point is 01:14:51 you know this is biting off more than you can chew coaching wide receivers and special teams of the NFL which is what he did this past year and this is the reason I brought it up to Stephen A and to first take I didn't tweet at first take but I guess they name search first take that's a lot to have on your plate to do special teams and wide receiving to coach wide receivers,
Starting point is 01:15:15 that's more than a lot of coordinators have to deal with. It's just, it's very exhaustive. So I don't know how that should necessarily count against him. Plus, there's been some coaches who have had some really good ascensions to success straight from being a special teams coach, whether it was Harbaugh or Andy Reid had a similar kind of thing, going when i the the teams i played for some of the best motivators and people as coaches were special teams guys phipp in philly uh bones in in in in l a that's of course false um and and then joe judge
Starting point is 01:15:59 was my special teams coach in new england and i didn't want to be anywhere near these rooms because that meant that i had to do other shit on top of being an old de lineman which is hard and up but then I got to run down the field on kickoff no thanks and you know I was always straight up with my special teams coaches I respect what you guys do but I'm not interested in doing it if I have to I will but I definitely respect special teams coaches and special teams players because they sacrifice a ton and they're great motivators they kind of have to be because you got to be crazy to run down on kickoff and they actually have a decent track record as head coaches so if you're you're a great motivators so if you want to look for a motivator, look no further than some of these. I mean, like, you know,
Starting point is 01:16:46 everybody's after these hot young coordinators, you can find a coordinator call the plays, but you hear half these teams talking about it. We want a motivator. It's not about play calling. Joe Judge, I think he's got a little bit of it. You know, I think people are tired of the New England thing. They think it's an overrated thing to have coached in New England, but you've got O'Brien and Vrabel to decide. Heading to the divisional round. You had Bill in the playoffs, obviously. You had B-Flow, just beat Bill.
Starting point is 01:17:16 There's a number of guys, and it's been a mixed bag that have had some success. It's been a very mixed bag. But I wouldn't hold New England against him. It is a head scratcher for me. I thought McDaniels would be the guy. And, of course, McDaniels didn't get the Carolina interview. He got Indied, reverse Indied in Carolina. They pulled a plug on that because they hired Rule.
Starting point is 01:17:39 You wonder if it's Cleveland or bus, bus for McDaniels, of course being an Ohio kid. All these vacancies filled up pretty quick now. And the biggest question with the Browns, are they going to feel dumb if they don't hire Stefanski from Minnesota? Who, by the way, has been in Minnesota since like 2004.
Starting point is 01:17:58 For somebody who I didn't think it was that old, that's a long time. And Zimmer doesn't seem to be going anywhere. I know his name was shared in Cowboy Circles. I thought maybe he might want to stay there to be a Zimmer successor, but Zimmer doesn't look like he's slowing down. Staphanzky would be a good hire with the Browns
Starting point is 01:18:17 because he was a finalist last year. They're going to be kicking themselves if they don't hire him and he ends up being the best option of these young guys and ends up somewhere else, whether there's a year down the line or whatever. If they hire McDaniels, that's a ton of pressure because you had Stefansky in your sights last year
Starting point is 01:18:33 and you didn't. You went with kitchens. and we all know how that worked out. The Panthers and Rule, I don't know what to make of it. Seven years, $60 million, that's good money. He took Baylor from like 2 and 10 to whatever they are now. Temple, 4 and 7 to a bunch of 10 win seasons
Starting point is 01:18:50 or a couple 10 win seasons. And evidently he was Tepper's guy from the beginning. Macon seemed excited about Joe Judge earlier. I don't know how Carolina fans feel about rule, but I think there's a lot more excitement circling around him. He's been a hot college name. If he'd get that spit off his shirt from the Sugar Bowl,
Starting point is 01:19:11 I mean, he had that big lugie on his vest. With $60 million, you know, you can get a new vest. So good for Tepper. He got his guy, and he's really making his mark on this program, evidently since before he fired Ron. He was looking at rule. and then with Garrett and McCarthy this has been the weirdest thing
Starting point is 01:19:39 why did they keep Garrett around so long I've likened it and I'm sure a bunch of other people have likened it to you get the breakup happens and you can stay here a while who's the new guy at the door he's the new guy and we'll be in the other room that was like kind of the vibe I was getting with the Garrett situation
Starting point is 01:19:57 why would you want to stick around and be a front office guy would you really be able to root for your successor I mean, that'd be kind of weird. Human nature, we all act like we want to wish everybody well, but we're all competitors. I don't know. That would have been super weird. And now we're hearing about Jason maybe as an OC in New York,
Starting point is 01:20:23 which I think is troubling for a lot of Giants fans, but Macon's excited about it. And by the way, the garrets are good people. I had this, I retweeted something last night was Jason going to this hospital to visit a sick kid who passed away. Luke Lofenberg, whose pops played, died of cancer, and Jason was evidently there after, you know, these 14, 16-hour days of these coaches do, at least he was there under the radar for days on end.
Starting point is 01:20:57 and of course Luke's dad, babe, tweeted it after Jason got fired, and I think we sometimes forget, and I've done it too, we pile on as NFL fans, whether you have rooting interests in a team or you're just trying to get some retweets. You want to make a joke at Jason's expense.
Starting point is 01:21:20 You want to make a joke at different players' expenses, and it straddles on personal. And we all do it. And I got to get better. at that other people got to get better at that there's a difference between telling somebody they're a bad coach or they did a bad job coaching or bad job playing and that they're bad people or we got to laugh at them when we run into them on the street like if you're not good at your job at home i don't think it's acceptable as long it's not a character flaw or a laziness flaw everybody in the NFL i guarantee
Starting point is 01:21:50 you 90% of people are doing their very best at a very difficult job if you're at home and you don't make as much money as NFL players. I get that disconnect, but it wouldn't be very nice if you lost your job for people to make fun of you. And I know these guys get paid and they make a lot of money, but they worked their asses off. And I played with John, or played under John Garrett, Jason's brother at UVA. And those Garrett guys are really good people. I don't know about, you know, was this Dallas thing more about Jerry than him? He made his share of mistakes. And I don't know if he's going to get another shot as a head coach. I wouldn't hire him as a head coach, not right now, but he's a good man. I think we forget that sometime around Black Monday or, you know, we do it with the media,
Starting point is 01:22:35 whenever there's massive layoffs at Deadspin or whatever, or deadspin people leaving a mass exodus or there's a layoff at ESPN, you know, all the media lines up and says, treat this with dignity, treat these people who are leaving with dignity. They're people. They're not just, you know, media personalities, like there's people losing their jobs. And I always get that I would ask for the same with coaches and players. Just remember when somebody gets axed, they're a person and they work really hard at this thing. I'm sure at the end of this you're saying,
Starting point is 01:23:07 well, I don't give a fuck, Chris. He makes too much money, and I'd say, I'm sorry to hear that. I'm just trying to be a human being here and note that even though I was an eagle and Garrett was not my coach, he's taking a ton of shit on the internet. He's a pretty good dude. But McCarthy's his successor. um you know he's not the first guy
Starting point is 01:23:27 to kind of get written off after a long tenure somewhere i mean andy reed comes to mind andy reed had uh kind of a collapse in philly and people were like no thanks this is kind of who he is mccarthy can change um i don't know what the hiatus has done for him i know he did a a tv project i don't know how i feel about that but studying analytics trends it's called like the McCarthy project. And people thought it was really good. He seems likable. He seems very direct.
Starting point is 01:23:57 Everything I hear about him in Green Bay, he's no bullshit. Of course, there was the Aaron Rogers stuff, which is kind of taking center stage. And a lot of people with McCarthy say, well, he's a failure because he failed to maximize Aaron Rogers to the tune of, what, nine divisions or, yeah, nine divisions, or six divisions, nine, 10-win seasons in 13 years in the Super Bowl. I think they're different situations, but we never questioned Sean Payton. And Sean Peyton, of course, did a better job
Starting point is 01:24:31 of maximizing Drew Breeze's talent, maybe, but because everybody would concede that Aaron's more athletic and more gifted than Drew. But neither team or neither quarterback has been historically surrounded by a lot of talent. and you look at McCarthy and you say, well, he didn't, they only won one Super Bowl. How do you do that with one of the goats?
Starting point is 01:24:54 Well, Drew Brees might be behind Aaron. He might be ahead of. I think Drews maximizes talent more than Aaron, but Ted Thompson didn't bring any talent to Green Bay for Mike to work with. And I think the hill was too steep for him to climb. And as you can see, like even on a year like this with a hot new young offensive coach,
Starting point is 01:25:15 you squint at the number, and you're like, Aaron's still scary as shit and the most fun guy to watch, but are they really being that efficient? And I think honestly, McCarthy was always was always campaigning for more talent there and Ted wouldn't give it to him. And now I bet you if McCarthy's watching the playoffs
Starting point is 01:25:38 and he's in a weird way rooting for Aaron because he wants to say, told you so if you just gave him a little talent and a little talent, I mean, they're not even that talented in all offense. and defensively, that's where they loaded up, that they could be better. So I'd say this, like give Mike a chance. I think he's, I don't know if he's my favorite hire,
Starting point is 01:26:00 but he's probably the right hire for Dallas. Not only do you have the TV element, the pop culture element of it, people, he's relevant right now. He did this documentary. Dallas is going to be different than Green Bay, very culturally different. Exposure's different,
Starting point is 01:26:13 even for a franchise like Green Bay. But he's a guy who's not going to get in front of the camera. And that's Jerry's thing. And Jerry doesn't want anybody competing with him on that, from that standpoint. Even though Jerry's less meddling than he was before, it's more his son's team than it is his behind the scenes. It sounds like from a decision-making standpoint, but he's the figurehead. You don't want your head coach standing between you and the pool of reporters every week. And that's not going to happen with him. I heard Urban Meyer wanted the job and an update on Cowboys O.C. Kellan Moore. It looks like they're going to bring back Kellan Moore.
Starting point is 01:26:48 It could be dated by the time you hear this, this, this pod. And I think from a continuity standpoint, that's not bad. And he'll have to learn, you know, a lot of what Mike McCarthy wants. But personality-wise, that's really big to have the continuity from one year to the next, and from experience. I can only imagine for a quarterback that's even bigger. evidently more also has an opportunity per rap sheet to go home and become the University of Washington OC under Jimmy Lake. Somebody can explain to me why, I guess, you know, I guess, I guess if he's trying to climb the ladder,
Starting point is 01:27:33 it might be, he might be better off in Washington. I'm not sure. You know, coaching-wise, you had rumblings about Belichick going to New York, obviously. that's dead you had um you heard rumblings of him going to dallas that's dead whatever they're going to do in new england with that thing they have a plan and um i don't know if it's good or bad for brady that belichick staying people have speculated to to no end about where brady's going to go if they're going to blow this thing up they got a bunch of free agents that was a bad way to end the season um i've heard a bunch of teams floated half of it's just having fun and throwing some shit on the wall and hoping it sticks i kind of did that in an article before the season for
Starting point is 01:28:24 s i about how i thought tom brady might end up in um in san francisco because my prediction was that san francisco was going to be pretty good but jimmy j might not get get it done and tom would have a good year and not maybe not a great year and there'd be a falling out that was my prediction so i missed on most of it, well, Tom didn't have a good year by his standards, but I missed on most of it. He also didn't have anybody throw through. I missed on on most of the Jimmy G stuff. I think now when you look at the NFC, they're probably, I think, I think they're the odds on favorite to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:29:05 And then it ain't going to happen. My prediction, I threw the shit I threw on the wall is not going to stick. Now, I want to throw some more shit on the wall. People have talked about the chargers. I know you have to sell tickets there. I know you have to fill that stadium. I know that they do have some nice skill pieces, but when you look at that division,
Starting point is 01:29:24 why would Tom Brady, if he is leaving? And again, if I had to bet the field or him staying, I'm probably betting him staying, but it ain't by as much people think. And I've heard people talk about the Chargers, people talk about Chicago. They're all plausible, but why would you go to L.A.?
Starting point is 01:29:42 if you're still trying to win and be in division with Patrick Mahomes. I know they lost a lot of close games which you have to feel like if you had another chance to do something where there's a path of less resistance, you take it. That's an established program in Kansas City.
Starting point is 01:29:59 I know Kansas City wouldn't be excited about Phillip Rivers being replaced with Tom Brady, but could they really get over the hump in that division? And the warm weather would be great for him. weather is good for any older dude makes your joints feel better better for the family i think tom in general might feel like he's been outside in the cold for 20 years and he really wants that hot shower and going and playing in miami in l.a somewhere warm that could feel pretty relaxing um and i think a lot of people are you know i think the unique thing about tom is that anybody else who had six rings
Starting point is 01:30:39 they're done right they're ready to walk away tom wants to win the next thing um or if he doesn't want to win the next thing is about money or business there's something else um he's got it in his mind before he does it and that's why i want to throw this hypothetical out what if tom brady wants to open a big tb12 in miami i think that a tb12 in miami would be a brilliant idea and tom i know you're not a of the program necessarily, but I will invest in a TB 12 in Miami if you do that.
Starting point is 01:31:18 Give me a reason to come down to Miami. Shit. I know we were teammates. I never bother you. I try not to hit you up. But if you play in Miami, I'm hitting you up. I'm going to come down there.
Starting point is 01:31:30 I used to crash on Greg Olson's couch in college when he played a U of M. We used to party down there. Tom, I know the house guest thing for you, has been kind of hit or miss, but if you go playing Miami with B-Flow, closer direct flights to see the in-laws,
Starting point is 01:31:50 right? Boston, South America, long way, Miami, closer, B-Flow, just beat you guys. A lot of draft picks. They could draft the guy early, and you could groom that guy because I'm really supportive of, you know,
Starting point is 01:32:11 drafting a quarterback high who doesn't have to play right away i think you could see something if they really like toa you draft twoa tom coaches him up he's playing an 80 degree weather he's wearing white linen and doing white linen on the beach um christmas cards and family photo shoots i could totally see it derby hats um but on a real note wherever tom's going I think he's got to run the same offense. Manning did it in 2015 when he brought his offense with him. What happens if Tom and McDaniels leave together and they go start a New England 2.0?
Starting point is 01:32:55 I think McDaniels thinks that most head coaching opportunities aren't as good as the OC opportunity in New England, but if Tom leaves, then what is it? you know and with these 20 free agents if they blow it up you know what is it um and i think tom's probably worn out so the question to me is who controls this this process is it tom calling the shots or does he actually have to if he wants to stay in new england does it have to be um robert craft or bill belichick making the call and i think if bill were asked i'm not sure because they really guard this stuff close to the vest.
Starting point is 01:33:36 I mean, there was the Jimmy G thing, but I would think Bill might want to draft the quarterback or bring somebody in. And I think Tom at some point just wants a little bit of a little love. Like, you know, like it's been a long run. I've been busting my ass since the Super Bowl and 17. I haven't had a lot to, especially since Gronk left and Devlin left, things have slowly deteriorated offensively for them.
Starting point is 01:33:59 It couldn't get any worse in Miami from a skill standpoint on all. offense they have more draft picks um i'd like to see them down there i think that'd be cool i'd get a brady jersey um i'd get the aqua one in a heartbeat and i'd be down on all the games and i would hit you up tom so maybe i can crash on the couch you know far have left for the jets and didn't do well because he was running a different offense among other things and we went to minnesota was more the offense he ran the offense was a lot closer so just a little theorizing on tom brady um before we get into the week and the rest of the dominoes fall as far as coaches coordinators etc everybody's eye is going to be on new england quick note before we roll four best rushing teams in in the divisional
Starting point is 01:34:51 round for the first time tennessee baltimore san francisco seattle um that's the first time since 92 in the current format. You know, I think last year, when you watched that 54-51 game with the Chiefs and the Rams, you said, this is the future. And of course, both teams were not the same this year.
Starting point is 01:35:14 And for the Rams, they weren't able to overcome some of the deficiencies and the changes. And for the Chiefs, they've morphed into a little bit more of a physical team. I think some people probably see that stat and they say, well, rushing offenses are back.
Starting point is 01:35:31 The Ravens are doing it. The Niners are doing it. Well, go find me a bunch of Shanahan's. You can't. Go find me a bunch of Lamar Jackson's. You can't. Oh, well, Tennessee's doing it. Go find me a bunch of Derek Henrys.
Starting point is 01:35:42 You can't. Seattle's doing it. Well, they do it the old-fashioned way. They really commit to it at times to their detriment. And Pete just seems to be in the Stone Ages on some of the run-pass tendency situations. I think it's more of an obvious product of the teams in the lead are running the ball more and the teams in the league just happened to this year all end up in the divisional round.
Starting point is 01:36:11 Those are some of the best teams in the league. I think Seattle, out of any of them, at least lately, the last eight games of the season, was in the most close ball games and losing ball games. They were an outlier because I think they were unnecessarily committed to it at times. And again, I think if you're going to say, say Baltimore, you know, using that as an example, I will concede that the running game is changing the game, but it's not changing because everybody should go back to the Stone Ages because there's four teams that ran the ball well this year. Four teams ran the ball, ran the shit out of the ball because
Starting point is 01:36:44 they had big leads, you know, Baltimore being obviously the first and then like the wrinkle of having Lamar and you see it with other offense around the league, but not to this to this level is changing the run game. So, yeah, a lot of of good running teams in the playoffs this weekend. We'll be back on Friday. I do want to shout out Steve Gleason, my buddy, who I'm proud to call a friend. Really got to meet him for the first time last year
Starting point is 01:37:14 at the Saints game before our playoff game and we lost. And obviously somebody who's battled ALS and given hope to so many people. Steve's one of those people that when you, and I know this is, maybe a part of the design of why he speaks out so much. So I hate to sound corny, but when you're having a bad day, you're like,
Starting point is 01:37:38 I haven't heard Steve Gleason complain once. And he makes light of his situation. He loves people intensely. He has fun. And he's a cool dude, man. I think a lot of people see Steve for all the struggles that he's endured, and they should because he can inspire people and give hope to people. and be a beacon for people and push for more research and whatnot.
Starting point is 01:38:05 But I also see the guy that was playing football after Katrina and made that big play in the game. And I think it was 07 or 08 on Monday night for the Saints. And I see that guy in any teammate I've had. It could have been a special teamer. It could have been, you know, a position player. And it goes to show you that like your life can change. and you take a lot of things for granted and Steve doesn't do that. Obviously he's had a lot of time to reflect and and kind of think about what can I do to make the world a better place.
Starting point is 01:38:45 And he's done a tremendous job of doing that considering everything. And Steve's going up to D.C. next week and he was kind enough to invite me to his ceremony. He's getting like a congressional medal. and I will definitely be trying to get up there. So I just want to shout Steve out as not only somebody who obviously everybody knows is inspiring as hell, but a really cool dude and somebody who's got the perspective that we would all love to have, somebody who approaches every day and loves people like it's his last day. and we could all do that more in our lives like
Starting point is 01:39:27 Steve you're a stud dude thank you for everything you do for not only people that that battle ALS but people that are dealing with bullshit that seems so minuscule compared to what you deal with your attitude positivity perspective again helps a lot of people and you've inspired me too so I'm really honored to come up there
Starting point is 01:39:48 and I look forward to hopefully getting up there next week so congratulations Steve again happy birthday to my dad happy retirement to my brother and uh i'll see you friday and we'll have a lot to talk about with the divisional round we'll have another live watch this weekend um so check us out then um yeah that's about it take care

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