Green Light with Chris Long - Ep. 26 - Kobe Respects. Super Bowl Stats, Facts, and Quick Hits.

Episode Date: January 29, 2020

1:20 - Chris gives his respects to Kobe. 15:52 - Chris meeting Kobe story. 29:50 - Favorite 26s. 36:00 - Twitter. 52:00 - Macon MRI Story. 59:35 - Conrath's dyed tips reveal. 1:01:20 - Super Bowl Stat...s and Facts. 1:07:12 - Joe Buch. 1:10:27 - SB Quick Hits. 1:37:46 - Defensive Draft. About Chalk Media: Following the unfiltered voice and vision of Chris Long, Chalk Media is the interactive online community for you, the intelligent and humorous sports fan. Driven by access, Chalk delivers a unique perspective that cuts through the canned talking points and provides a variety of content from your favorite sports and entertainment celebrities. Here at Chalk, we don’t take ourselves too seriously, but we are rooted in challenging the perception of professional athletes. We embrace the “real” with a unique combination of humor and intelligence. Chalk is a community with a voice beyond 240 characters that brings a perspective and vibe to a traditionally brash and boastful sports media space. Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more. Nothing is off limits at Chalk - hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. 🌍🏀🏈SUBSCRIBE NOW ⚾🏒⛰️ http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Episode 26 of the Greenlight podcast, of course, we're going to talk about some notable number 26es, me and my co-hosts, Megan Gunner, as well as some Super Bowl analysis, an update on my Twitter usage, and then we're going to draft the field defensively Sunday. All the players playing defense in the Super Bowl, we're going to draft them.
Starting point is 00:00:21 We did the offense last pod, and we're going to see how our team stack up. Spoiler alert, mine will be better. And, of course, the terrible. tragically tragic news that we received last weekend
Starting point is 00:00:33 involving Kobe Bryant's death along with the eight others that lost their lives in the helicopter crash this past weekend
Starting point is 00:00:41 including his daughter Gianna so a lot to cover and we'll get to it in a moment this is episode 26 of the
Starting point is 00:01:10 Green Light podcast and this is my co-host making Gunner and this is not the way we we like starting
Starting point is 00:01:17 a podcast usually it's a lot of fun this just this just fucking sucks you know the Kobe Bryant news everybody's familiar with with the tragedy that struck this weekend as his helicopter went down along with Kobe lost eight other lives including you know giana his daughter believe his 13-year-old daughter and a number of friends and teammates of his
Starting point is 00:01:43 daughters they were headed to a game that Kobe was going to coach in and giana was going to play in and they crashed in Calabasas. So nine people lost their lives. I don't want that to get lost in the shuffle here as we talk about Kobe. Of course, the outpouring of grief and mourning for one of the game's greatest players all time is very appropriate.
Starting point is 00:02:08 There were also a lot of other people on that helicopter. And I think this is just the way things go. When somebody like Kobe Bryant dies, whether that's at the age of 75 or 80, living a quote-unquote full life or tragically and unexpectedly at the age of 41. It's jarring, and especially jarring in this manner. It seems so random, so terrible, so unpredictable.
Starting point is 00:02:36 He's a guy that rode his helicopter to practice every day for a period of, what? I mean, it's been well over a decade probably, right? He's been, you know, riding a very safe helicopter to and from work. And, you know, the worst part about this thing is reading all the,
Starting point is 00:02:57 it's not foreshadowing, but some of the interviews that are like, well, I did it so I could be with my kids more. You know, I did this because I didn't want to sit in traffic all day. I wanted to go to practice and be able to get back
Starting point is 00:03:07 and be in carpool and pick my kids up. And to think that, you know, not only did Kobe lose his life and leave behind four or three daughters and his wife, Vanessa, but that one of his daughters was on the helicopter with him.
Starting point is 00:03:24 It's unthinkable. And, you know, somebody like Kobe, when this happened, it's not like I was a Kobe fanatic. I always respected Kobe, loved to watch him play basketball, hated the Lakers. He used to torment me. I was a Knicks fan,
Starting point is 00:03:42 so it's not like I ever had a dog in the fight when it came to important games. but the Lakers were kind of that front-running team. So I was often rooting against Kobe, but at the end of the day, you always respected the way he played the game, and you couldn't help it. And then, you know, getting a chance to meet Kobe,
Starting point is 00:04:02 I mean, all week I've seen Instagram and social media light up with personal accounts of my meeting with Kobe, you know, this was the picture I took with him, this is how he was, and all these pictures, He's smiling. He's evidently, by all accounts, engaging in every situation. He's curious.
Starting point is 00:04:22 He's asking people questions. That's the common thread here. And I had no different an experience when I met Kobe. I mean, he's an Eagles fan. He's from Philly, Lower Marion. He, during our Super Bowl run was, like, very supportive of our team, you know, watching the games. There's viral videos of him reacting to us winning a Super Bowl. He visited our team when we played.
Starting point is 00:04:46 I believe it was the Chargers or the Rams. We were staying in, like, Orange County, and he drove out and talked to our team for an hour. Q&A type thing. Very engaging, again, could have come in and just half-assed that really spoke to every guy in the room. I mean, it was one of those things. You know, you can tell when somebody's there
Starting point is 00:05:09 just to pass the time or whatever, and then stayed afterwards. And guys were getting pictures with him and talking to him. And you have to understand it. It's, this is this generation's Jordan. So like a 23-year-old kid, kind of the thing where you go down the list and you talk about 90s music.
Starting point is 00:05:25 And most kids are like, who the fuck is outcast? Who's, you know, this act, this musical act that I grew up on, as a 34-year-old, these 20-something-year-old kids, they grew up on Kobe. It wasn't Jordan. And, of course, Kobe's been the closest thing to Jordan. In an almost an eerie way when you watch him on the court, his mannerisms,
Starting point is 00:05:44 such and of course that was very intentional because he looked up to Jordan a lot and um so these kids you know these younger players i mean this was like meeting you know the pope or somebody this is this is this is as as big as it gets in the sports world and i saw him take the time take pictures of everybody again engaging not a big time guy i didn't take a picture because i didn't want to bother him um but i'd get to him ask a question or two and and uh that was a special cool day because anybody who's ascended to that level. And anybody can be good. You just have to be born with the skills to be good.
Starting point is 00:06:21 And I think what separated Kobe was his mentality. That's been so famed, the Mamba mentality. And now everybody's going to go apply it to their lives. But I don't think with him, it was just like a flip-in-the-switch, and I'm going to have the Mamba mentality. I think that was a way of life for him. And it became part of his personality and his relentlessly competitive. nature, which sometimes bled into disagreements with teammates and, you know, he could be abrasive
Starting point is 00:06:49 on the court, I know, but I think that's how you have to be if you want to be the best of all time, and that's what he intended on being. And there are a number of guys you can put in that conversation. He's always going to be in the conversation. But yeah, for guys that met him that day, it was very special and so for me when i got the news sunday i think it's going to be one of those things that i'll always remember where i was i was uh i was in my bedroom packing up for this week a little bit ahead of time for the super bowl and i opened up instagram and i saw one of the first the first reports um that a lot of the comments because first when i see the TMZ reported screenshot screenshot it i'd heard before that different individuals and celebrities have passed away and i'm thinking it's got to be
Starting point is 00:07:34 fake. There's no way. My stomach just, my heart sank. And, um, and I'm not a Lakers fan. I'm not one of these Kobe fanatics, but it just, it, it's just for whatever reason, inexplicably, this, this bothered me a lot. And, um, I think as I watched the reports unfold through the day, and of course it was confirmed and then hearing that it might be all his daughter's on board and you're just, you're crushed. And then it's, you know, one of his daughter. you're hearing more reports about who was on. It was just the most unsettling day. I mean, I was very unsettled.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And, you know, there's been other untimely deaths in sports. And, you know, I was thinking back, Junior Seow, obviously, Reggie White, Derek Thomas, Dale Earnhardt, Sean Taylor. Those were some that I remember. And, like, I'll always remember when Reggie White died. When I got the news, I was in Boise, Idaho. I remember exactly what I was doing. I was playing.
Starting point is 00:08:39 We were playing in the Music City Bowl. Not the Music City Bowl. Easy to forget the Boise Bowl. Yeah, the Boise Bowl. What was it? Micron PC computers. That would have been Florida. One of those computer bowls.
Starting point is 00:08:55 It wasn't a great bowl, but we did have a little makeshift arcade in our hotel. And I was playing Hydro Thunder, if you remember that game. It was the speedboat game. And I'm going over jumps, and all of a sudden, somebody said, Reggie White died.
Starting point is 00:09:08 And I'll never forget where I was. It was one of those things because that was a guy that transcended football. And Kobe transcended basketball the same way. You know, Dale Earnhardt, I remember where I was. I remember the exact room I was in. I can see it. I can hear it.
Starting point is 00:09:24 The news on the TV. Sean Taylor. But this was like, this felt more, comprehensively covered and like comprehensively more than any thing I've seen before. And it's easy to forget as an American that this is a global star. Basketball is the biggest global game when it comes like football, you know, we try to play in other countries. Soccer is huge, but soccer is not that big in America. So being an American and seeing one of our biggest sports losing one of its biggest legends who was just starting to live his life after basketball and had
Starting point is 00:10:03 so much promise. I mean, he was doing a lot off the court. He was a humanitarian now after basketball. He was doing international stuff and basketball being big in China and Europe and Italy where he spent a lot of time. Yeah, that's, I think, what I was taken for granted. And, you know, everybody was like timelines,
Starting point is 00:10:28 Twitter, Instagram, the news, every channel. I mean, there's real shit going on around the world, like real globally impactful stuff, and Kobe is dominating the coverage. Because I don't think, I just don't think we think these superheroes are supposed to die. I mean, they're not supposed to die like this. I don't know, how did you feel when you heard it?
Starting point is 00:10:53 Yeah, you did meet him. I think some people think it's funny to mourn someone you've never met. But I didn't know it. But the reality is Kobe was a part part of our lives for 20 plus years. For you and me as sports fans, he has been omnipresent since we were 10 years old.
Starting point is 00:11:13 Yeah. So I think he's one of relatively few people that we've seen on a regular basis for more than two decades. And losing someone like that is akin to losing a part of our childhood, our college years, our 20s, and reminds us of our own mortality. There was a tweet that was shared widely in the wake of David Bowie's death
Starting point is 00:11:41 that was someone that said, we're not sad because we knew him, we're sad because he helped us know ourselves. And if you were a Kobe fan, you wanted to work hard to be like him. If you weren't, you wanted to work hard to be like Mike or LeBron or simply not Kobe fan.
Starting point is 00:12:00 not Kobe, but he motivated so many people. You didn't need to be a teammate or an opponent. You could be a stranger. You could be someone who he never physically touched your life. But that work ethic, that can't be denied. That mentality that you talked about, I mean, he just had a fire that clearly burned so hot. And winning was above all else, it seemed, for him.
Starting point is 00:12:28 And with that comes this, invincibility. I mean, we've heard that a lot, that you just, you can't imagine that he could ever not be around. And that's, and I think that's the thing with athletes. I mean, we've heard of musicians dying early, you know, actors, actresses, you know, tragic stuff, um, unpredictable stuff. I mean, what's more unpredictable than a guy dying in a helicopter crash? You've been taken a helicopter for over a decade every day. Yeah. You know, and if you think like, you know, if you're nervous about flying or if you're like if it could happen to Kobe it could happen to anybody and untimely death could happen to Kobe it could happen to anybody I mean I do think that when
Starting point is 00:13:08 you're talking about an athlete though it's a bit different because there's this transcendent level of immortality that comes with being one of the greatest athletes to ever live or ever play any game in our country and you just assume that these guys like it's different than being an artist or musician or like these guys, this is an athlete. You know, like he's more alive than anybody. I mean, he's using his physical body more than anybody to inspire and to lose him. And one thing I noticed that was interesting, and I'm trying to think, because I've been racking my brain, because I'll admit it, people die all the time.
Starting point is 00:13:47 I've had friends die. I've had family members pass away. I've had these people that I've known for a long time. I got news yesterday about something I knew and I hadn't spoke to in years that passed away a massive heart attack. But I meet Kobe twice. I watch him on TV for years
Starting point is 00:14:06 and this fucked me up. And I think a lot of it, you know, with folks that I noticed and everybody's sharing their accounts, there was a common threat. And I think this is what made him really transcendent as an athlete. He was Jordan-level psychotic on the court.
Starting point is 00:14:22 Yes. Okay? He was a fucking psycho in the best way. but he wasn't a tough guy off it. And I knew that because I met him and his energy was welcoming, curious, you keep hearing that in everybody's account. People have come out of the woodwork
Starting point is 00:14:42 and usually you can tell when somebody's like, you didn't really know Kobe or whoever it is, like you're kind of making this up and making it about you. Like, there are people coming out of the woodwork that I would never expect we're friends with Kobe. And at first glance, I'm like, yeah, right, you were. And then there's like a ton of details. And the common thread for me is reading about how inquisitive he was,
Starting point is 00:15:01 how open to learn and excited to meet people. And every picture you see was somebody, he's smiling big. I've seen a bunch of videos being shared where people, I mean, you're Kobe Bryant, you're a global superstar. People are bothering you all the time. He was welcoming. He was curious. And he wasn't a tough guy off the court.
Starting point is 00:15:21 He's a tough guy. But he didn't have to act like a tough guy. He wasn't a tough guy, but he still had that mentality he had on the court because another common threat of all these people saying that they had a relationship with him was Kobe reached out to me. Yeah. I got a text one time that said, hey, it's Kobe call me. And I thought it was a joke. I read that probably 10 times or people getting calls from Kobe at 3 a.m. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Because he has a question about this or that. It's wild. It's insane. And it makes you think about. And also there were some, what it made me think about was like when I met him and of course, like he watches our team. And one thing that's funny is you get ready to play
Starting point is 00:15:57 in the Super Bowl or anything like that and you're thinking who's watching you. Yeah. And it's pretty cool to think if you're on the Eagles Kobe Bryant's watching you on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:16:04 You make a play one of the greatest athletes of all time, you can earn that person's respect. So I thought it was cool when I saw him at the Espies and this was after, this was last year,
Starting point is 00:16:12 last Espe's, last summer. And I was backstage. I was doing, I think I was presenting something to UVA and then he was walking by and we made eye contact
Starting point is 00:16:24 and my thing was like, I don't want to bother Kobe. But the eye contact was long enough that I was like, oh, maybe he knows why I am. It's awkward if I walk by him. So I go to Dap him up and I'm like, hey, Kobe, what's up, man? It's Chris Long, bro. And he smiles like real big and laughs. He goes, I know who you are, bro.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And like, Dap, hug. And I was like, you know, I'm not going to keep you long. So I'm just like having a good weekend or whatever. And he's like, man, it's awesome, bro. It's great to see you too. And like, just kept it moving, which was mission accomplished for me anytime I meet somebody like that, if I can.
Starting point is 00:16:57 But I think that was the feeling that he gave pretty much everybody. It wasn't about me. It was about like he tried to show people that welcoming spirit and that respect and like I want to make you feel like you matter. Like you matter. And that's what I've seen in everybody's account. So there's something to take from that no matter who you are.
Starting point is 00:17:17 It's like how you make people feel is truly. I mean, the old saying is like how you make people feel is more important than anything. he's made a lot of people feel pretty good meeting him and i i think that um i think that's cool um you know the pictures and everything you can really see it show through but this is this is bigger than i think what's what's affecting us so much is not only the mortality thing which is amazing to me that it takes a celebrity dying or you know an athlete dying to grapple with our own mortality or to say, I'm going to make the most of my life.
Starting point is 00:17:53 But I've thought that way. Like after, you know, last couple days, I've thought about things. Because I think some days you wake up and you're like, that couldn't happen to me. Nothing could happen to me. Like, I'm X, Y, or Z. Like, it's just reasons that this shit ain't going to happen to me. And I do think about death. Like, I do think about that stuff.
Starting point is 00:18:11 I think about, I'm a paranoid person. I think about what could happen if I'm gone, what will happen to my kids, etc. And they're morbid thoughts sometimes, but I think they're healthy thoughts to have. to think about your own mortality and make you make the most of your life. I know it's a cliche, but you got to get busy living, man. You do. And I feel like when I look back at Kobe's life and I saw a ringer interview that was shared, it was Erie.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Two things I saw this week that were Erie, the ringer interview where they go, what kind of relationship do you have with death? And he didn't even pause. He said a comfortable one. I'd like to have a comfortable relationship with that because it's not, he goes, death is a part of life. Like it's, if I could have that same mindset, which obviously, he's a very fearless person.
Starting point is 00:18:53 So I doubt he ever worried about that day coming. I'm sure he, you know, I'm sure it would break his heart to know that it would come the same day as he'd lose his 13-year-old. They'd die together. But I, if you could have that mentality
Starting point is 00:19:07 where you're not living, thinking about dying, you're thinking about making the most of your life. I think that's the way he probably thought. Another one was I saw, I think was Tracy McGrady, saying that when he was younger, you say,
Starting point is 00:19:19 I want to be as good as Jordan and I want to die young and be immortalized. I saw the interview this morning. So I just thought, you know, and everybody's taking their stab at Instagram, and my little caption was like, hey, when I'm looking at Kobe, I don't, he certainly wasn't a long life by any standard,
Starting point is 00:19:36 but it was a full life. And I'm pretty sure he squeezed every drop out of that 41 years. And most people live 85, 90 years. Whether you're a pro athlete or not, the curiosity that he had, I think if he was working, you know, at the DMV, he'd be living a full life. I mean, he just was that type of guy. I do think that what made this different was that of all those deaths I mentioned in 90s,
Starting point is 00:20:02 you know, when I was growing up, Derek Thomas for sure, Reggie White in the 2000s, Sean Taylor. This is the latest, the latest big-time celebrity or athlete death. That's the biggest one that's come at the time where we can collectively mourn the most. I mean, like, social media is crazy right now. And so, like, that's the part for me. I don't know if it's a good thing or a bad thing, but we all see each other mourning over it. And mourning, it's not like we're, I'm not crying.
Starting point is 00:20:43 I'm not like, I don't think about Kobe all day, but it's fucking sad. And it's somebody that, like you said, has occupied our, our headspersoning, based in sports for 20 years. And it was also seemed to be accessible off the court. And this is the time where you can log on and everybody's opening, open the door into how they're comprehending this. And it's also, I think it's less about Kobe for some
Starting point is 00:21:11 as it is about like this, we're all talking about this uncomfortable thing at the same time, which is that. Yeah, and I know we've talked about him the court. Did you see the Lou Williams tweet where he talks about the Lakers getting blown out in Portland and then Kobe made a lap through the locker room snatching everybody's cobies all of the Kobe shoes and threw them in the trash saying that his teammates were too soft to wear them? It's amazing. I mean, he was just, he was a larger than life personality and yes, it comes at at present the apex of this social media world we have going on. And, and, um,
Starting point is 00:21:53 You know, I think it's in this way, social media can be helpful. Yeah. And I know you're going to talk about Twitter in a bit, but, yeah, I, we are hearing the same words over and over, curious, smart, engaging, competitor, charismatic. One word I've heard, I think, once, which I think was spot on was audacious. Just he was willing to take big swings at things. And if he failed, so be it. But he was going to give it his all.
Starting point is 00:22:29 And we saw it recently with his winning an Academy Award, what, two years after basketball, which is just nuts. And then also just it's the NBA, so it's different. I think also this adds to it is seeing, looking around and seeing not only, like we said, that generation of kids that grew up on Kobe, but also the people they are watching play now that are also pro athletes that grew up on Kobe
Starting point is 00:22:52 and became personal friends with him. And, you know, I know they didn't cancel the game Sunday, which was bizarre, but also put yourself in the commissioner's shoes. You have people at the arenas already when the news is breaking. I don't know. Now, I talked to a player or two that was like, I don't know how the fuck we're going to play. And that's understandable.
Starting point is 00:23:13 And different athletes more in different ways. I mean, I talked to Tori Smith this week about the Super Bowl. Well, Tori Smith is one of the most remarkable things I've ever seen was Tori Smith losing his brother the night before he played in prime time and he went off for over 100 yards and I think he scored like the game-winning touchdown or something in a one-point victory,
Starting point is 00:23:31 you know, in week three of the NFL season. And that is so hard to comprehend. The Brett Fav game. Players handle things different ways. So I'm sure like it was split down the middle. Some guys probably just wanted to go play basketball. Right. Human beings handle things different ways.
Starting point is 00:23:45 Yeah. Sometimes it's an outlet, it's a distraction. you can get away from thinking about it for a few hours. And then you saw Tyson Chandler on the bench and he's crying. And that's where you realize, like, watching all these interviews, the guys are choked up. And it's not just because they looked up to him, it turned out. These guys became NBA players, partially at least,
Starting point is 00:24:04 because of the inspiration from Kobe Bryant, their God-given talent and their work ethic, but like a little piece of that pie was probably who they grew up watching and who inspired them to make it out of certain places that they grew up and play professional basketball. And then they became friends with him. And that's the thing that I don't know of any, I don't know of another sports league.
Starting point is 00:24:24 I was trying to think in the NFL, I don't know if there'd be a death in the NFL in the NFL knock on wood that would stimulate this kind of collective sadness. And I think that's because the NBA is a real community. There's not as much guarding, there's not as much machismo, is that the word? Yeah, well, one practical issue,
Starting point is 00:24:44 there's no helmet. Yeah, I mean, we can see your face for 20 plus years. And we can see the transition from 8 to 24 from the sunglasses on top of his head at Lower Merion saying he was gonna go straight to the NBA. That's another part of it. I mean, he was one of the first, along with KG,
Starting point is 00:25:03 to make a successful move from high school to the NBA. And that was one thing LeBron mentioned on the heels of him passing Kobe the night before he passed, which is insane. Was he mentioned his inspiration he drew from him as a guy who made it look possible to go straight from high school. And watching these guys mourn over him in a really authentic way, it's not like they're just, you know,
Starting point is 00:25:28 they're not people throwing their two cents in because somebody famous died. Like, they knew this fucking guy. And I think that speaks to not only the community in the NBA, you know, 82 games, you're on the road, you're in each other cities. Like, these guys hang out. They catch up after the game. In the NFL, like, you know, we know each other, but it is, it's like the alpha male sport
Starting point is 00:25:49 and you can't be too friendly. Your coaches are like, don't fucking talk to your friends before the game. No dinner before the game with opponents, like nothing like that. I'm pretty sure these guys all hang out. And when you get a chance to hang out with one of your heroes, your heroes can do one of two things.
Starting point is 00:26:02 And this is universal in all sports. They can blow you off, look out for themselves, or value that relationship. And it seems like hearing all these guys from Trey Young, a monumental kind of game on the day he learned about one of his heroes and personal friends passing to different guys that said there was this one anecdote where he brought me along and like just look at his tweet to lebron after lebron passed him we all know there's NBA stars that or NFL
Starting point is 00:26:34 stars who their ego is get in the way it seemed like he was a fan like which is cool every video i saw was people sharing videos where i they're all they're court side or something, and they're another athlete, and Kobe's going to come. He appreciates athletes, people. Donchich is about to inbound the ball, and Kobe's sitting with his daughter, Gigi,
Starting point is 00:26:57 and he's speaking in Slovenian, Slovenian. He's another thing. He turns around, and Luke is like, who in the world, and it's Kobe? Yes. So he's a guy that was maximally competitive,
Starting point is 00:27:11 but could check that at the door when he exited the building and just be a person and pull for people, including LeBron, who just passed him, with zero ego. And I guess when you're that great, how hard is it to give praise? But he praised LeBron. And that was his last tweet.
Starting point is 00:27:28 And I know that's got to be really hard for LeBron. I know LeBron and him had a real relationship. And it'll be interesting to see the rest of the year that kind of fire under his belly that LeBron plays with. But that's basketball. That's unimportant. The important part here is that, you know, three daughters lost their dad a wife lost her husband and that's far more tragic than people losing a guy
Starting point is 00:27:56 that they grew up with a poster on the wall of like we can all get through that and continue to be inspired by him but there's a family left behind and there's also eight you know seven others excluding cobi and his daughter giji who perished in that in that helicopter accident it was a terrible tragedy and people die every day. So in no way are we minimizing the loss of Gigi or the other people on that helicopter when you mourn Kobe. But people die every day. This guy just happened to be somebody that inspired a whole lot of people and we've spent, and this is the weird thing about relationships and being fans is like we've spent getting to know our athlete. And the NBA thing, as you mentioned, no helmets. We know this guy. So, again,
Starting point is 00:28:43 Again, I think it's the latest in a line of really unfortunate, untimely losses that happened at the peak of social media where we can mourn together. And I do hope that it's not a three, four day thing. I hope people do grapple with their mortality. Because if it can happen to Kobe, it can happen to anybody. And yeah, one of those, tell people you love them things
Starting point is 00:29:06 and live life to the fullest, because I know he did. So rest in peace, Kobe Bryant, Gigi, everybody else, who perished in that crash, our thoughts and prayers are with anybody affected by this, whether you're a fan or you actually knew any of these folks personally. So terrible, terrible day, but trying to draw some inspiration from the way he played and lived. Amen.
Starting point is 00:29:30 Amen. On to something lighter. So it is episode 26 of the Greenlight podcast. And again, I want to welcome everybody. This is the easier. part of the podcast. So we're going to talk about our favorite number 26 at the moment, or most notable. I don't think... We can define it any way we like it. Yeah, I mean, for me, this is one that's relevant to me right now. I will pop mine up first. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:58 That's Miles Sanders. Okay. That's a guy who's going to terrorize the NFC East for a long time to come. And I also think his play style, this might be a hot take, might lend it and what he's going to be surrounded with, might lend itself to longer success. than Sequin, who I love. I've never seen a back that young, that good. But I'm afraid that in New York and your football giants, they might waste his talent. I don't think Miles is going to be wasted.
Starting point is 00:30:27 He draws a lot of Brian Westbrook comparisons. He also is a guy that was wildly productive this year. I mean, he broke single-season records for the Eagles in week 16 against the Washington football team in, I think, yards from scrimmage and rushing. So good company for him. And then, you know, a guy that works very hard. By all counts, teammates love him.
Starting point is 00:30:54 Good kid. Love to see that. Love to see that. You're batting about 500 with personalities in any sport. So good kid, works hard. He's a perfect fit for that city. Pennsylvania, Penn State, Blue Collar. And I do think he's going to be around for a while.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Speaking of working hard, you and I work hard to keep our choices secret. Secret before we unveil them here on the pod. We've been doing that for three long pods. You just went with an NFC East running back wearing number 26 from Penn State, wearing a dark helmet with white jersey and white pants. Here's mine, Ceylon. His name is Sequin Barkley. Beautiful uniform there too.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Well, yes, I did that for you. Those are the throwback giant uniforms. Color rush technically. Yeah. Six feet, 233 pounds. Of just fury, dude. Born in the Bronx. Was he?
Starting point is 00:31:56 Yeah. Over 5,000 yards rushing and receiving in 51 TDs. Is that good? In three years at Penn State. Went number two, of course, to the Giants' highest running back picked in the draft since. Reggie Bush in 2006. As a rookie, most 100 plus yards from scrimmage games in NFL history, 12.
Starting point is 00:32:16 Most scrimmage yards by a rookie, 2028. Most 50 plus yard touchdowns by a rookie five tied with Randy Moss. Great company, first Giants running back to have 1,000 rush yards in his first two seasons. Little banged up this year. Still got past a century mark. That's what happens when you play for the Giants and you're about it. Yeah, and hopefully,
Starting point is 00:32:36 help is on its way because we want Sequan to have the longest. I'm an Eagles fan. I would love to see that guy play as long as Frank Gore. I mean, I have never seen a back. I thought he might be the best back I'd seen. And I played AP. I've played a number of guys or AD all day.
Starting point is 00:32:56 It's the people with the A-Rod thing. Aaron Rogers is A-Rod, okay? Adrian Peterson's fucking initials are AP, okay? So before you cry in my mentions, and maybe that's irrelevant now, and we'll get to that in a minute. Yeah, when we played them in New York, in 2018, not the Super Bowl year,
Starting point is 00:33:21 obviously, because he wasn't playing at that point. I felt like I was in a Madden intro, you know, like where they're like spin around. It's like an aerial view of a player, jukeing people and then they freeze frame it and he's hurtling somebody and they go and then it's like you know some guy duck in his head and missing him underneath and then he spins off another guy like i was there was a long screen that broke out and i was heard that came so i couldn't run and i'm just running behind him about eight to 10 yards behind them just watching him juke everybody he was
Starting point is 00:33:59 just like spin truck hurdle and i'm in a fucking video game and I'm also thinking to myself like if you catch up to this motherfucker in the uneventful instance that you catch up to say Juan Barclay to not end up on the highlight reel and it turned out to be one of the most viewed runs of that season very insignificant game for for them but that was when I realized that this kid was beyond special he's got the lateral ability of you know I dare I say a Barry Sanders I mean he he does remind me a little bit of him, but he also has that home run ability of, you know, a Miles Sanders, a burner.
Starting point is 00:34:43 He's got the power inside the tackles of a Marshawn Lynch. Of Ray Lewis. Yeah, I mean, he's, he's Frankenstein, it's like a Frankenstein of running backs. And now he's in the very capable hands of Jason Garrett. That's right. I had a dream the other night that I saw all the garrets. Cool. That just unlocked that.
Starting point is 00:35:04 John. Yeah, I saw, yep, John, Jason, and I guess there were some others. Are there others that I don't even know? Most likely. In the dream, there were others. But I saw him, I was at the beach, and I think my thought in the dream was,
Starting point is 00:35:18 God, I hope I haven't talked any shit about Jason Garrett since I've been podcasting because I really am a big fan of the Garrets. John Garrett, shout out to John, was one of my coaches at UVA. And now where is he, he's at a smaller school? He's a head coach at a smaller school. but they're both first class people and yeah so we're on a Lafayette college so we're on a Garrett tangent. MPC Computers Bowl by the way you were right yeah MPC Computers Bowl that that was that was yeah that was an interesting week um let's talk Twitter let's talk Twitter let's get to
Starting point is 00:35:55 Twitter let's address the elephant in the room so you know this I've been working on this for about I've been talking about it I've been talking about it you know and a lot of of people know me as a prolific Twitter user. All that means is I'm relatively witty and I have ADD. You know, to be good at Twitter, it's all you need. Which means you can't put your phone down. And, you know, it's always been something that's been a thorn in my side for better part of a decade. And this fall, I got out of football. And the conundrum I was in was I wanted to knock the Twitter use down in a big way, but I still needed it to like keep up with the news and, you know, do research so trying to find that balance during the football season and i'll cross that bridge when
Starting point is 00:36:40 when i come to it next fall but i have kind of as the seasons dwindled down first it was i want to be more productive so i need to be on twitter less took a little hiatus came back to it then i realized that i just don't fucking like twitter and uh i had a feeling for a while that it has been more of a pain of my ass that something i enjoy um a couple facts about twitter social media affects and that's all social media affects attention span, which is big for me as somebody who can't sit still. Self-esteem, I do love myself, but I think I might love myself more when I'm off it,
Starting point is 00:37:18 and my ability to sleep, for sure. I'm not an easy sleeper. I'm sure if I'm staring at my phone late at night and it's stimulating my brain, it's not helping. Our brains are not evolved to experience or understand so many different issues in a quick succession like that. And I think that, I mean, think about the jump we made mentally. I'm not being funny.
Starting point is 00:37:40 Like there's Industrial Revolution fucking Twitter. I mean, like those were like, we've been around for eons. All of a sudden, industrial revolution. We've thought for eons. All of a sudden, oh, open my phone, there's 15 really, you know, emergency type issues that are all being addressed in 240 characters. And you've got to react right away. You have to care about them all, and you have to react right away.
Starting point is 00:38:07 According to Cal, which is good school, bad feelings and moods can be transferred across social networks. Does that include LinkedIn? Well, yeah. Yeah? Well, when you're talking about self-esteem, you're talking about people posting their highlight reels of their lives on IG, Facebook, somebody gets a new promotion,
Starting point is 00:38:31 put it on LinkedIn, and you think you feel inadequate compared to these other folks. So for sure, let's rope in LinkedIn. Comparisons bad, and I'm looking at you in LinkedIn. I don't have an account, but I would imagine it's not fun. By the way, that four square picture thing everybody's sharing, it's just an excuse to take a picture they think is hot of themselves and put it in the Tinder box.
Starting point is 00:38:55 Or be hilarious. It's mostly, I think. For those of you being hilarious, you're batting about 200. Yeah. I was gonna, I'm gonna try one later. I think it's pretty funny. Okay. But it's definitely like to me, I'm like, I see what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Okay, you took your shirt off for the LinkedIn or the, the, the, the, the Tinder section. We get it. Like you just wanted to Thirst Trap and this is a good excuse. Right. And we see you. We get it. You're gonna put in Fast Bender? You think you're Fast Bender?
Starting point is 00:39:21 No, that's, that's not, that's not the, I do think, I don't know if I, you know, favor them or whatever, but. Okay. Also, Twitter raises the chances of general anxiety. I noticed that to be absolutely true and I'm somebody with anxiety. So it doesn't help. And I think also people with anxiety flock to Twitter because they're like, I'm paranoid.
Starting point is 00:39:44 I gotta see what's going on. I don't wanna miss anything. Also like the world is ending. Let me see how bad the world's ending. Like let me get on here and then it makes it worse. So I think if you can walk away from Twitter a little bit, which I've tried to do lately, and I'll get into that.
Starting point is 00:40:01 You can kill two birds of one stone, the Twitter piece and the phone piece. You're on your phone a lot less, the world around you. It's not like you replace it with something else. It's not like I'm rummaging through my notes section of my phone. Like my phone has sat in my pocket the last 10 days
Starting point is 00:40:14 since I've taken a step back longer than it's ever sat in my pocket. And you've talked about this. Like you'll pick it up sometimes, not even thinking about it. And you're not as addicted as I've been. No, where I snap. back to reality to quote my guy, Eminem,
Starting point is 00:40:33 is when I'm on the laptop, which you referred to as tweeting from your laptop is like... Well, tweeting from my laptop is the only thing I do now, and that's like the first settlers did that. That's, you know, we're going back to the Oregon Trail. Right. So if I'm cruising Twitter on my laptop, and I'm like, gosh, spend too much time here, let me do something else. And then I, without thinking, pick up the phone and open up the Twitter app,
Starting point is 00:40:57 that's when I'm like time to go outside and that's a lot of days when you're on Twitter a lot and it's for me yeah yeah I've told you I've put the 30 minute limit on the Twitter application and it's worked well okay well some people power through limits I tried the limit but it's amazing how you see the hourglass and you're just like ignore remind me in 15 minutes remind me 15 minutes I got to see how fucking shitty things are going out in the world right now I'm going to watch two people argue over nothing or argue that agree. I mean like it's it's insane you're never truly at home
Starting point is 00:41:34 when you're scanning Twitter and like that's something since I become a parent I've been more mindful of is like it was one thing to sit around and tweet a lot when you know it's just me and my wife in the house and we can't you know spend 22 hours with each other a day um but you know there's two kids running around now like I'm missing out um and some people might be like well you can do both like no I mean some people can't some people just are a little bit ADD and can't like you know they can't control that so it's a little bit more all or nothing and I've been too busy anyway so something's got to go I mean my first fall out I've been I've been running on a you know a hamster wheel and I think ultimately you're the company you keep right you talk about your friends and
Starting point is 00:42:20 the environment that that you're in and my timeline uh has been become me in some ways and that's cynical and negative a lot of the time. So I guess my announcement would be that I've lost the battle to Twitter and I'm being I'm being as square as I can on that because... Sounds like you're about to conquer it. You're about to win. Well, yeah, this is the win, but I've been losing. I had lost the fucking game and I'm trying to be self-aware here and share because that's kind of like I try to live by that code a little bit like so what you see is what you get okay well it's easy to be self-aware if you're only
Starting point is 00:42:59 sharing the things that don't actually suck and they might be acceptable to you but to everybody else they're like good job you shared something like this is me sharing something that's personal like i was on twitter too much and it became a loss for me um i lost i tried i couldn't manage it um and it made me a worse person so this is me being self-aware and it was a failure and it was a failure And it's not a failure because I was bad at it. I was very good at it. Like, I guess. I mean, depending.
Starting point is 00:43:29 I don't think anybody, if you're good at Twitter, I think you're being bad at life. And that's some people I really like who are on Twitter. I would imagine they might be going through the same thing, seeing the volume of tweets that they're also firing off. And it's an internal struggle. I don't care what you say. Unless you're very comfortable in that world,
Starting point is 00:43:46 I was not. I was always dealing with this cognitive dissonance where I'm like, I'm not really sure if this is something I like at all, but I'm drawn to it because I'm bored, or I'm managing my stress. Sometimes you're just so stressed as a player or whatever you're doing in your life
Starting point is 00:44:07 that you're like, well, if I just escape into my phone, I can't be bothered, or I won't think about the things that are stressing me out. Then you just replace them with the terrible shit that's happening around the world and in your country, which you could read in a news article too. and you don't need anybody to parse it or frame it the way they want to frame it and you can think for yourself and that sort of thing so it just became an extension of my body like my phone like my you know and we get addicted to it we get it's like the dopamine the compulsion like we all whether or not you got on it to feel good about tweeting shit like it's not like you're just it's not like you're just doing it for yourself otherwise you just take notes like you're doing it to engage in a conversation or you know elicit a reaction or at the end of the day your goal is to feel good about what you're putting
Starting point is 00:44:57 out there i don't care who you are even me who i think that i whatever i tweeted i really meant um but eventually it affects your reality and it like you become this twitter person outside the app and that's not good because twitter is a really toxic place uh i became i made a lot of assumptions like i i was so busy like battling people on twitter or like read it just really cynical stuff. You could post like, got a new puppy today. Why can't somebody else have that puppy?
Starting point is 00:45:29 Like, why do you get the puppy? Like, that's Twitter. And then you leave Twitter and you assume everybody else is like that. Or you deal with fucking haters or people that, you know, I hate the word haters, but like people that just trolls
Starting point is 00:45:42 or people that live to disrupt your shit. And then you go out in the real world and you assume that everybody else is like that. Well, they're not. Twitter is not real. So, you know, the assumptions, I was more confrontational. Somebody said to me, they were like, sometimes I'll see you tweet,
Starting point is 00:45:59 and I'm wondering if you missed the confrontation of football. And that was really eye-opening for me. I don't think that was accurate because I think I'm always just confrontational, and football was part of that too. But I just don't think Twitter is the right place for me because of that confrontational nature. And then also the fact that I've shared beliefs I have,
Starting point is 00:46:17 politics, you know, things that I really believe. and most players don't do that. So I became like a target for people when it was just like, I don't need to argue with you. I don't need to give you access to getting a pissing contest with me. It's not going to change the way I fucking think.
Starting point is 00:46:32 I've never seen somebody on Twitter be like, oh, I was wrong. Or you're right. So what are we arguing about? I'm done arguing with people. So, you know, I used to talk Big Cat about it. I'm like, how do you do it? You tweet a lot.
Starting point is 00:46:46 It doesn't seem to zap you. He goes, I just keep repeating myself. I'm not here to argue. And I can't do that. If it's there, I am really good at taking criticism. I think I have thick skin, but what I'm not good at is not firing bad. And so Twitter is the wrong place. So it's made my attention span worse, made me more confrontational.
Starting point is 00:47:07 It started as this small room when I was in St. Louis, this really cool little place where I could see all, you know, St. Louis Rams fans, which is a small fraternity. It's almost not existent now. It is not existent unless you're going back through your VHS tapes. and throwing on the old Edward Jones highlights, but there were people I knew, they were friends, I got to know my followers, and over the years,
Starting point is 00:47:30 whether I was playing in two big markets or the political stuff or whatever, like the room got too big. And I was like, I looked around one day and I was just like, what the fuck is this? So it just sucks. First the productivity, now the enjoyment, and then no tweet is ever good enough.
Starting point is 00:47:47 Like, no matter how positive or how, you know, concrete the tweet is, you could tweet the sky is blue and somebody would have something to say. So I'm done with that. It's also hard not to seem self-important. You know me, you would tell me if I'm a self-important person. I try not to be.
Starting point is 00:48:12 But no matter what you type out, I'm sometimes mortified at the possibility that people think I'm, and I really think what I have to say is more important than anybody else. But you get that blue check mark and people see things retweeted. They might not even follow you.
Starting point is 00:48:26 And they're like, who the fuck does this guy think he is? Like, why does he have to weigh in on this? I'm like, no, I'm just using Twitter like everybody else. I have tried to be relentlessly normal and I can't do it anymore. If that makes sense. Yeah, I think this sabbatical, however long it lasts, will be a good thing.
Starting point is 00:48:45 And you can still use it, but you can use it for, purely good. Yes. Purely good, growing chalk, water boys, whatever, educational initiatives. Also, sometimes if I have a thought that I think is profound, I'm going to fire up my little Mac, my MacBook Pro, my 12-inch MacBook Pro. I got a 13-inch MacBook Pro. Mine's 14. My MacBook Pro is 14. Do you see the new ones that came out? You got me. Nah, this bad boy is from like 2011. Yeah, I misspoke. It's actually a 14-inch MacBook Pro.
Starting point is 00:49:22 Might be 15. But I'm going to fire up that computer like, you know, early settlers. And I'll be tweeting. It'll be a lot less and they'll be on my computer. So go try that. If you're listening to this and you secretly hate Twitter the way I've secretly hated Twitter, trust me, the last 10 days have been some of the best days of the last decade of my life. And is that all you have to say about that?
Starting point is 00:49:54 Wait, you got something. Well, I have a nice transition, but it's to a different topic. Well, I would like to say this. You've got to hold me accountable. And I don't know what the, like, there's going to be times where I want to tweet about stuff. But you be the judge. If it's gotten out of hand in any given day, if you look back through my tweets last week, I think I'm under 10 replies.
Starting point is 00:50:12 So that's less than, yeah, it's a tweet a day. 10 days, 10 replies, and probably one or two. actual tweets. I had to fire off a sponsor joint today. Had to fire off some chalk content. Favored it a couple of things, but I'm not going to argue with anybody. And the nice thing is now, since I'm off it, I don't miss it. I promise you, you do this, you won't miss it. I shall adjudicate your usage moving forward.
Starting point is 00:50:39 And what's the penalty? Well, I think you have to become a Twitter brand ambassador. I think you have to go head to tow Twitter gear here on the pod. Boy, I would hate that. I think you would hate that, so I think that's a nice penalty. Okay, so yeah, and we'll take it to the judges. The judges can be the guys behind the... I thought you just said I was the judge.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Well, you know, because I think I worry... No, I think what needs to happen is you identify a day where you think I've gone off the rails on Twitter.com. Okay. Or that I'm tweeting more than I said I would, which is very rare now. This might shock you. I don't visit the site every day. Well...
Starting point is 00:51:13 And I think some of us do have a healthy relationship with it. And I'm not saying that you can't pull it off, but you just have to know yourself. and I'm not a person who can, and I'm not going to delete my account because I think that would be just stupid for chalk and for charity. And sometimes I might want to live tweet a game
Starting point is 00:51:30 for whatever reason or I have a thought that's worth the shit. We can't write our own mailbags. Yeah, we need mailbags, which is this really cool exclusive segment we do only on Greenlight. It's a mailbag farm, yeah. But I think you should identify a day
Starting point is 00:51:49 that you think is a candidate. Hey guys, what do you think? And then you ask the cats behind the curtain. Okay. So I think we'll do that in the future. Okay. All right. My transition.
Starting point is 00:52:01 Yeah. Shwash. Shwash. Is that I had my first ever, first career. And I wasn't sure going in if it was or not. Yeah. Oh, boy. My first ever MRI yesterday.
Starting point is 00:52:13 Oh, yeah. I'd had some CT scans. Very different. Much quicker. MRI. Tube. Panic attack, headphones. I had a panic attack for the first two to three seconds.
Starting point is 00:52:25 Yeah. But before I get there, I had to lock all my things in a locker. Yeah. Including the mobile phone, which I didn't think much of until I'm sitting in a dressing room in my gown and sweatpants. Right. And I don't have another human being to talk to. And I don't have a newspaper.
Starting point is 00:52:47 and I don't have the phone. I don't have Twitter. I don't have newspaper apps, et cetera. And I started to lose my mind. I read every placard in the room about six times. I watched the clock go around for three minutes at a time before looking elsewhere. And these folks were pretty efficient. Which is good for an MRI spot because usually you have to sit a while.
Starting point is 00:53:14 They tell you, hey, be there. I've had probably 20, 25 MRI, so welcome to the fraternity. And I didn't look at the needle. Here's what I want to say. After, it was, I'm not being funny, it was very hard at first to, and this is piggybacking off your Twitter rant, it was hard being alone.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Yeah. With myself. without anybody else for the first five, 10 minutes of my 30 minutes sit. And then after a while, it became kind of nice. I don't see, I don't mind being alone with myself. If I'm outside and I'm alone with myself, I love it. But if I be in a waiting room, it can be, it's like if you get on a flight, you start feeling like it doesn't have internet and your phone died for some reason,
Starting point is 00:54:10 doesn't have the plugs. We've gotten so soft as flyers. I mean, like imagine the people in the 70s. who just had to read the fucking newspaper and inhale each other's Marlborough lights. I can even do that if I have a piece of paper and a pen. Yeah. I can just, but having nothing at all was shocking.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Then you ask the flight attendant if she has a pen, and it looks like you ask for a bar of gold. Right. Yeah, so the MRI thing, when you got in it, you're doing your bicep, right? Because everybody knows out there that you've had this bicep issue. Yeah, so I guess I've been lying to the people.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I don't yet know if the bicep is torn. I've been saying torn bice up. I'm going to say it probably isn't. But a strain is a micro tear, so you can get away with that. I'll hopefully learn very soon. I was called the star of the day by the people who did the needle stuff
Starting point is 00:55:00 and put the contrast in my shoulder. That's what they say to kids. No, no, no. Seriously. I maintained a straight face with all the needles. Yeah. And I wasn't woozy or anything. And I was saying, yes, ma'am, no, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:55:12 And I got star of the day from the nurse. Good. Good. What did you dress like? get your MRI. Did you go to the MRI and to describe you right now, signature sweater, button down under the sweater, gray corduroys, loafers, and some nice winter polo socks, and perfect hair. Oh, thank you. Yeah. So you do that. Did you dress like that for the MRI? Did you put on some casual clothes for the MRI? A different clothes, exactly this outfit, though.
Starting point is 00:55:41 You went in a fucking tube dressed like Mr. Rogers. No, sir. I have, I, They made me put on a gown and the hospital sweatpants. No, I had to change into a gown, bro. This was a legit procedure. I guess so. But yeah, the hospital sweatpants, usually when I've gone, you just have to take certain things off, you know? No, this was real deal.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Okay, real deal, Holyfield. Yeah. As opposed to my fake deal, Holyfield MRIs that I've had. And my man puts on headphones and he goes, I got any music you like. And I froze. I absolutely froze. And like the first things that come to mind,
Starting point is 00:56:16 I can't say out loud. I can't say marching bands. I can't say boy bands. You know? Yeah, it's terrible. And I'm even uncomfortable saying country music at times. Dude, I've been in that situation.
Starting point is 00:56:27 I almost always think for a while. I'm like, do y'all have Pandora? And they're like, yeah, I just go with Willie Nelson Pandora. And he said they had Pandora, and I was like, man, it really doesn't matter. And he goes, right now it's on 70s rock. And I said, perfect.
Starting point is 00:56:40 Here's the problem. There's two people that steal my time in my life that just, I just want honesty from you fuckers. Airplane pilots and MRI operators. They always tell you it's shorter than it's going to be. I have no idea. I understand a little bit more with the pilots and everything
Starting point is 00:57:00 because of routing and stuff they could get on and be like, we're 40 minutes from, you know, San Antonio and then it's another hour and a half. Yeah. I get it. Things can change. Please update me. Right. We're beginning our descent.
Starting point is 00:57:12 You're on the ground 90 minutes. Yes. But the MRI people. They pull that shit too and there's no good excuse. They're like, I always make a point to ask, tell me the truth, how long is this MRI? They all say 35 minutes. Yes, 35 minutes.
Starting point is 00:57:25 Go ahead and count the songs on you. Part of how I was dealing with, so the first three seconds, sorry to interrupt, that I go in the tube, my eyes open, I was like, oh, I might be claustrophobic, this could be a problem. And so then I just close my eyes, focus on my breathing.
Starting point is 00:57:41 Yeah, that's what they say. And started to really pay attention to the songs. and I ended up memorizing my playlist there. Nice. But yeah, I could count the songs. And it never adds up. You're always, most songs are like four minutes, right? That's how I usually.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Right. And I'll be in there and I'll count the 12 songs and we'll still be going. By the way, I can fall asleep in an MRI machine. I almost did. But it's like a sound machine. Yeah. That sucks though because I gotta wake you up in 30 minutes.
Starting point is 00:58:11 My technician. And you gotta stand still. You gotta sit still. It's really hard to sit still where you're fighting sleep. And I didn't know the procedure. Can people come in the room and whatnot? And so my wrist hand forearm weren't being supportive. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:27 So it fell asleep and then started to hurt bad. Thoughts and prayers. Yeah. And my guy was like, okay, the next one will be seven and a half minutes or so. I was like, hey, great. Could you maybe put a pillow under my hands up? And he said, I'll be right in. I was.
Starting point is 00:58:43 He put a pillow under your hand? Yeah. I've never asked for anything. It was really, I was about to, because they said, keep your palm. And then it's going to fall off the thing. I was like, oh, God, I'm going to have to come in here again. Imagine being a little bit wider and fitting in that tube.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Yeah. Not being funny. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like when Brandon Brooks has to get an MRI, what the fuck? There aren't bigger tubes? I don't think so. I think they're very, the Siemens are very, that's what the, that's the brand. Seamins.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Okay. They're very, uh, uniform. They're not, they don't make plus. size. That can't be true. You think? I believe you. You've had more than...
Starting point is 00:59:20 Well, I've never been in one that was bigger, but maybe there's a room they take you if they eyeball you in the waiting room and they're like, yeah, we're going to need to get this guy in the... Perhaps. They do ask for your weight. Mid-sized SUV or, you know, the Cadillac. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Some people need the Cadillac. Also, a quick update on Matt Conrath, die tips. We're going to get them on the show soon, but I wanted to give the viewers something to look at if you're watching on YouTube.com. I haven't seen him in person since that happened. It's been a busy week.
Starting point is 00:59:50 I haven't either, but I talked to him. For those you, can we give a little background? Again, Matt Conrath, former NFL player. Sacked Drew Brees. He did sack Drew Brees. That was, I was, yep. I was there. I saw it.
Starting point is 01:00:04 You were there that weekend. And, you know, finds himself in a fantasy football league with a bunch of guys that didn't play football professionally, except for myself. And me and him, we're in the race not to be in last place. And if you get in last place in our league,
Starting point is 01:00:20 you get the died tips, you get the Guy Fieri's. Matt works in the medical field. So imagine him in scrubs, six foot seven, and the, you know, the dyed tips. I talked to him today.
Starting point is 01:00:34 He said that it's better or worse, I guess, depending on your perspective. They've gotten even lighter, more sort of a bleach, blonde look, really settling in nicely. And he is not getting his hair cut until the seventh. That's tremendous. We need to get him on the show. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So thoughts and prayers to him,
Starting point is 01:00:54 walking around looking like it's 1998. He was the general manager of a fantasy team that included Lamar Jackson. So he really earned these tips. Oh, he earned them the hard way. Let's get to, let's get some football stuff for the big game Sunday. I mean, we only have one football game to talk about anymore. And then I don't know what we're going to talk about. after that on Greenlight. We have some quick hitters here. Let's not forget the Super Bowl is this weekend. We have done almost an entire pod without.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Super Bowl trademark, copyright. Yeah, I just, this time of year, I don't wanna be a downer, but the Super Bowl for me is kind of like the NCAA final or the championship game. I'm a volume guy. Super Bowl is great, but I'm not, I think the season ended effectively
Starting point is 01:01:43 for me a week or two ago. Is that just awful to say? No, I think Super Bowl ranks probably, golly, is it the worst of the playoff weeks? Yeah, it is. I think it is. I mean, unless you're a fan of Kansas City or San Francisco, that having been said, this is going to be a great game.
Starting point is 01:02:00 We enjoyed the NCAA final last year for example. We did. I mean, for example, if you were Virginia Cavaliers fan, you love that. You'll love to see it. Now, this game is shaping up to be a classic. I have really had a hard time pinning down who I think is going to win.
Starting point is 01:02:18 There is one number that I'm becoming increasingly passionate about and that's the total which has climbed to 55 and I think you should keep an eye on that and if you continue to use. Under. Under. You're on the under too, huh? Well, I don't gamble.
Starting point is 01:02:33 If you were a gambler, yeah. I got to score and everything if you want it. Give it to me off the top here. Niners, nineers, 24, nineers, I got one job. 2924-9ers. That would be good for my wallet, because I,
Starting point is 01:02:48 especially if this thing ticks up to 56-57, I'm on it. You know, trends here, Mahomes and Jimmy G, it's the biggest deficit of touchdown passes throughout the playoffs in Super Bowl history. That's not a shocker, 8 to 1.
Starting point is 01:03:05 And Mahomes has had more second quarter yards than Jimmy does in one full game in the playoffs. So, yeah, Mahomes has been dominant and Jimmy G has been more of a manager, but everything about this game otherwise feels like it might tilt to the Niners if I'm looking at it. Now, there's one big trend that I was looking at that you'll like here. This is the most important trend probably in the game. 13 of the last 15 Super Bowls have been won by teams wearing white.
Starting point is 01:03:40 Yeah. Thoughts on that. Thoughts on that. Who are some home teams? Does that include? The Pats lost, or we beat the Pats in green. I can't remember who else it was,
Starting point is 01:03:55 but in the last 15 years, the team wearing white has been dominant, and that bodes well for the Niners. I know how inclined you are to talk about uniforms. You can see that white clear amid the patina of the Super Bowl. crowd. That's nice. I like it. I found myself getting confused a lot this week. It's just so much red. But a real trend that actually might matter is the number one pass defense in Super Bowls
Starting point is 01:04:22 are 9 and 4 allowing 19 of 24, or 19 touchdowns, 24 interceptions, and a 70 QBR combined. So number one past defense, that's San Francisco. That bodes well for them. Again, 19 touchdowns, 24 interceptions when a quarterback sees the number one passing defense in the Super Bowl. And Sherman, by the way, and I think an interesting thing to keep an eye on is who has a better game between Sherman and Honey Badger? Because those are two guys that have just changed the game for these defenses. Obviously more recently with the Honey Badger getting there in free agency in the last year. But Sherman's giving a passer rating of 41 in the playoffs. It's the lowest in the playoffs since 06.
Starting point is 01:05:10 That is going to be one thing that's going to make you nervous if you are a Pat Mahomes fan. And we'll get to that in a minute. Here's my Russ Cole trend, my Russ Cole storyline here. So brace yourself because some of these don't go great. Braced. Erie 1994 comparison. 94, of course, was the year that the Niners won with Steve Young, Jerry Rice, over the Chargers down in Miami. Can somebody get this monkey off?
Starting point is 01:05:40 my back. Oh yeah, that's Steve Young thing. That's right. Yeah. Shanahan and Shanahan were running Niners' offenses. People forget. Mike Shanahan was the OC in San Francisco. Now his son Kyle is calling the plays as well.
Starting point is 01:06:01 Obviously the head coach, but both quarterbacks, he got in a trade, Steve Young and Garoppolo. Both signed free agents, or signed free agents. leading up, two big pieces defensively, Ken Norton Jr., Dion, and you got a linebacker in a corner with San Francisco as well, and Quana Alexander and Richard Sherman. So both are playing AFC West champs, both in Miami. I mentioned that before,
Starting point is 01:06:27 and both Steve Young and Jimmy G sat behind Hall of Famers and are two of four to win one as backups and appear again. So playing. So there's a lot, if you believe in that, shit. Eerie. Very eerie. I mean, is that weird or what? Or is that a stretch?
Starting point is 01:06:48 Well, I think you can find things like this in almost any game. In most games, but this might be more than usual. This is more than usual, which, you know, along with the, you know, the insignificance of the passing defense stat, that's obviously much more significant. But the last note before we get into
Starting point is 01:07:09 some keys to the game. Joe Buck and the Fox team. I think Joe Buck does a tremendous job. What say you? It's difficult for me because Joe is a close personal friend. We spent a lot of time together after one of your Super Bowls. That's true. We ended up at the bar with Joe.
Starting point is 01:07:30 And we actually talked some broadcasting shop. Yeah. And I like the guy. And you weren't too drunk that night. No, not at all. You weren't at all. There were some people in our group that were pretty shit-canned. Yeah, breaking tables and such.
Starting point is 01:07:43 No, I love Joe Buck. Joe Buck, what is it with people that? People just seem to have this issue with him, although he keeps getting the jobs and keeps getting the big games. Him and Troy, I think they're a nice balance. I think Joe lets plays breathe, and I like that. I posted a video the other day on my Instagram of the Case Keenham play in the NFC championship two years ago with the pet,
Starting point is 01:08:08 Patrick Robinson, pick six. And, you know, I had a few people in my mentions that were like, Joe's always hated the Eagles. He hates our fucking team. I can't stand, Joe. Is that just, it just comes with the territory of being an announcer? Absolutely. But it feels like with Joe, it's more.
Starting point is 01:08:24 Is it the perceived nepotism with Jack? Is it, is it the baseball thing? You've got these crossover baseball fans that hate the Cardinals and the Cardinals fans. I get that. It is a, yeah. A high and mighty. in the Gateway City?
Starting point is 01:08:40 Joe's aware of this. By that I mean the baseball fans in the Gateway City. I mean, like, the Cardinals are undeniably awesome, but I can see if you're a baseball fan, you could get tired of the Cardinals in baseball. It's like the Cowboys or anything else in football. Joe's aware that he does not have 100% approval rating,
Starting point is 01:08:58 and I think that is helping him gain more fans. But when he talks about it, he says that he comes across as arrogance when he's not he's not even haughty when he's not and um that's that's something who cares he's great at what he does patrick robinson going the other way and then it was like needs a block gets one and then he's in the end zone like let the play breathe what do people want you to do you want him to go gus johnson i mean maybe when he said randy moss fake mooning was the most disgusting that was ridiculous and joe if if i see
Starting point is 01:09:38 saw Joe now and I talked to Joe every now and again I would tell him that was ridiculous and he knows that he knows that was ridiculous but he's self-aware yes he lets the play breathe um and I think he's he's pretty damn good at his job I know he works hard so I'm I think this is uh you know as far as you know play by play he's up there for me I've I've said it before color analysts um you know you've got Tony who I really like but I am going to enjoy and I won't be listening Joe because I'll be at the game, but I think Joe Buck's awesome. I just wanted your take on that. Yep, I agree.
Starting point is 01:10:13 But we might be in the minority. I think we might be, and I think we'll hear about it in the comments, maybe. Well, let's make that minority of majority. Yeah, well, there's always like live watches you could watch, but not ours this weekend, unfortunately. True. Daddy's got to go make some money here.
Starting point is 01:10:27 Hey, how about some quick hitters I have for you? Yeah, sure. I'd love to quickly hit them. Super Bowl live in Miami. Experience, doesn't matter. Okay, so it's funny In my playing experience You know, being with the Patriots
Starting point is 01:10:44 And with the Eagles in deep playoff runs I had no playoff experience But I was also a veteran So I think this is a conversation That people get wrong a lot Look back at the playoffs The last few decades And look back
Starting point is 01:10:59 Playoffs Playoffs Oh yours was better Was it? Playoffs No, first one Oh really? Yeah
Starting point is 01:11:06 Look back at the playoffs the last few decades. Look back at Super Bowls, and I didn't do any extended study on this, and I might, who made the big plays? I don't think there's like a common threat of guys that have been in the Super Bowl a bunch or, you know, listen to a quarterback, it certainly matters and coaching it matters,
Starting point is 01:11:21 but you could also say Andy Reid's got more wins and more playoff appearances than anybody without a Super Bowl. So if his experience mattered, he'd have won a Super Bowl by now. I think that, you know, if you look at these two teams, I also say this, And I've talked about this at length. Don't chase plays in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:11:40 And even experienced guys can chase plays. You know, a guy that just does his job fresh out of college, you know, could be his first playoff experience. He could be a seven, eight year vet like I was. Just focus on doing your job and letting the plays come to you. I think the biggest hurdle for players, experienced or not, in the playoffs and in the Super Bowl, is thinking, I am owed this moment. I've worked my ass off my entire life.
Starting point is 01:12:05 my story is really important and I need to dot the eye here with this. Like, when you're a kid on a basketball court or on a field and you're doing the whole slow motion thing where you whisper to yourself and hit a half court shot and do the play by play, Joe Buck, play by play in your own ear, it's funny. Kids are never like, and he executes the block, you know, like, or he secures the football high and tight, like, or, and he doesn't bite on the uh you know on the comeback like it's just those are the things that win
Starting point is 01:12:41 football games and those are things that win super bowl's alike and you know everybody's trying to hit that spectacular shot or make that big play as they're running it through in their head and every player did that growing up so when you get there you're like well when's my moment like i fucking emote a moment i say this all the time patriots super bowl you know we can get to that later but i um I was in my mind, like on the edge of pressing, and I didn't know what my play would be. It turned out to be a holding penalty. I always wish it was a force fumble, a sack force fumble.
Starting point is 01:13:11 But if it helped the team win, that was my play. You know, like, that's it, and it's okay. And I think most players chase plays. Now, when you look at the Niners, and that's experienced players and inexperienced players alike. Vets, rookies. When you look at the Niners, you think about them as upstart, right? Think about the Chiefs as having built this thing for a longer time,
Starting point is 01:13:32 because Reed's been there. But the Niners have more Super Bowl experience. They really do. And the Chiefs have been building a while, but seven players with experience to two on the Chiefs. And that includes Jimmy G., of course, who's appeared in Super Bowls. But Richard Sherman's played in as many Super Bowls
Starting point is 01:13:55 as the entire Chiefs roster combined. That's Wisniewski and Suggs. That's it. And like I said, Reed has the most wins and playoff wins without a Super Bowl win. You would think that that would, and maybe it will Sunday,
Starting point is 01:14:08 equate to a Super Bowl championship a lot earlier if it was all about experience. So I'm not sure it does. Execution matters. And if you are checking on experience Sunday, you'd be surprised to know that the Niners actually have more of it. Talk to me about big plays.
Starting point is 01:14:25 Well, big plays are going to be, I mean, you look at these two teams, it's kind of been a staple of what they do. whether it's big runs for San Francisco or on both sides of it, chucking the deep ball. And in different ways, though, okay, first off, if you're Kansas City, everybody's talking about stopping the run, okay?
Starting point is 01:14:40 So you load the box. Well, I'm worried about something over the top of us in the past game. I think you have to worry just as much about the big run plays. You load the box, one missed tackle could be house call. And especially with the speed that these guys have out of the backfield, it could be over. So I think you have to be,
Starting point is 01:15:00 going to load the box, you have to be really gap sound, and you have to make tackles, okay, if you're the chiefs. And it can be tricky. Also, the Niners still run for like three and a half yards of carry against loaded boxes, which is not bad, and they have the third most yards passing. So Jimmy G's done a good job there. Now, on the other side of it, in the past game, for both teams, they both Jimmy and Pat throw the ball deep really well. Now, Jimmy G, the sample sizes smaller. The rates are way different. Mahomes is 12% deep shots to Jimmy's 6%. And Jimmy's is the lowest in the NFL. But they rank one and two and Jimmy's actually number one in deep ball completion percentage. So with Shanahan and Jimmy, they picked their spots well. They hit him when they're there.
Starting point is 01:15:49 Mahomes, he's going to take a lot of shots deep. And he has way more touchdowns too. Listen, if it came down to one guy throwing deep ball, I like Pat more than Jimmy, but you know his completion percentage on deep balls is higher to be fair both teams get the most separation on anybody in the league pretty much um on deep balls i think their receivers average about two and a half yards separation uh and and that's that's a lot uh so i think here's the difference though the niners and the chiefs have respectively allowed two and three um when it comes to lowest completion percentage of deep balls this year so that's the difference for me i think Everybody's going to look at the past game,
Starting point is 01:16:29 but both these teams do a really good job of that. I'm looking at more the tackling underneath. You know, Tyreek on a crosser, breaking tackles, you know, or a big run by Breda, if the box is loaded. I think both teams do a good job. The statistics back it up. And that's why I think this game could be kind of low scoring. Both teams are going to have to drive the field.
Starting point is 01:16:51 How do these two teams use play action? Glad you asked. They do, a lot. Differently? differently uh yeah so i guess the biggest thing would be uh one's gonna i mean san francisco quite obviously is gonna is gonna use play action um on stretch run action zone zone run action off tackle uh they do that more than anybody um outside zone they average five yards of carry on their outside zone stuff so if you can disrupt that outside zone and i've talked about this at length uh and that takes
Starting point is 01:17:27 penetration that takes interior penetration as much as it takes you know a firm edge being set whether that's your six technique god i hope you don't run a six steve spagnola i might text you later and tell you not to run a fucking six trust me uh or if you run a nine uh and the end is setting the edge like the three tech is just as much a part of disrupting the outside zone so if they can do that then you you take away that that effectiveness of the play action uh they used outside zone on 34% of their runs this year, and that felt low when I saw that. And the chiefs use 75% of their dropbacks or out of shotgun play action. So, I mean, you're looking at one team outside zone. That's how they're getting to play action. One team is going to be in the shotgun.
Starting point is 01:18:16 And, you know, I guess Pat does it, they do it just enough to slow you down. You know, with, I think when San Francisco does it, it's a fear thing. It's like, we have to stop the run. We're selling out to stop the run. With Pat, it's just that hiccup. You know, he's holding that mesh a little long and a second level defender might be slower to get to his spot or find his man and those fractions of time become really big.
Starting point is 01:18:45 What is the biggest worry for Kansas City? I mean, besides stopping the run, I think it's starting fast. You watch their games, you know, they've gotten really good at coming from behind, but that's not what you want to be. I mean, San Francisco is not a team. I think you want to say starting slow.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He said starting fast. Yeah, yeah, yeah, starting fast. Okay, start over. That's a goal. Yeah, yeah. What is the biggest worry for Kansas City? I think it's not starting slow.
Starting point is 01:19:17 I mean, starting slow is the worry. You have to start fast. I mean, that has been something they've kind of gotten used to over the last two games where they're like, this team through the second through fourth quarters that, you know, come out like gangbusters, the first quarter, they've been terrible. They've scored 86 points this postseason. That's the second highest ever in the Super Bowl era from an average standpoint. All the other four or all the other in the top four won the Super Bowl. So that included the 1994 Niners. But they've done this without
Starting point is 01:19:57 any productive first quarters. They've been a minus 24 point differential in first quarters against Houston and against Tennessee. And then two through four, they're plus 55. So I think, you know, that's even more important this week because you're playing a team that if they're up, they'll put the Darth Vader death grip on you. Like they will choke you out. They're front four. and that's a good way to get pressure on Mahomes. The run game, that's a good way to attack Kansas City's defense. If they get down in the first quarter like they did against Tennessee and Houston, this is a different game.
Starting point is 01:20:38 Another thing is you can't play catch up against the number one pass defense. I don't care who you are. They just got done whipping two bottom third past defenses. And they didn't trail in either of those games at any point. Yep. What's keeping the defensive coordinators up at night this week? The D is up at all hours of the night. Just thinking about pre-snap.
Starting point is 01:21:05 The D is, the D does not rest this week. The D cannot rest. All hours of the night, these coordinators, pre-snap can be just as. There's nothing wrong with your audio. Macon just doesn't like dick jokes because he's a real estate agent.
Starting point is 01:21:28 Anyway, I'm pretty sure some of the people that buy your houses are okay with this kind of humor. I mean, I bought a house from you. Thanks. Yeah, I'm playing a character here. This is not my real life. So I think de-coordinators are up at night because, you know, coaches don't sleep anyways. But a lot of pre-snap stuff, okay? Real talk.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Pre-snap, these two teams put a lot of window dressing on everything. And by that I mean things that slow down rushers. You know, you want to play firm, you want to set the edge. You've got jet motion stuff going on. You have shifts. You have motion. And by the way, San Francisco and Kansas City are one and two in wide receiver alignment in the back field this year.
Starting point is 01:22:12 So all these things are things that coordinators feel like they have to get everything. If you play football, you know coordinators are very paranoid. If something's on tape, forget about if it's used all the time. Just one wide receiver alignment in the back field. And, you know, we're going to be, hey, you know, that's a big key. We got to, we got to make this check, this adjustment. So it adds another layer of pre-snap. And guys, it's one less thing that you can line up and just play.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I mean, when we played the Patriots, you know, Jim Schwartz's defense is pretty simple. It relies on the players to make plays. And that was actually a blessing, although they lit us up a little bit. We all played fast. Shanahan also used a ton of shifts in motion in his offense. He led the league at that rate the last four years. So he's increased his shift in motion rate 5% each year over the past four years. That's a lot.
Starting point is 01:23:05 And I think he's at 78% of plays this year, over 70%. Reed, he was below average using shifts in motions until Mahomes came along. I mean, when Alex Smith was there, it wasn't a lot of window dressing. Now it's a ton of it. He's been top five ever since. You know, the Niners seem to do it, and they do do it, to strengthen the run game. They actually are pretty pedestrian running the football when they can't use shifts in motion. Like three and a half a carry.
Starting point is 01:23:31 It's like last in the league. Niners are 5.3 a carry when they use shifts in motion. So Kansas City, that's a bad combo for them. They allow five and a half almost to pop in the run game on motion plays. So that's something you got to keep an eye on. I think Spags is going to be thinking about that. But on the other end of things, it's interesting to note that San Francisco does is to get in the run game and kick ass
Starting point is 01:23:56 and slow people down instead of playing fast. You're worried about all that window dressing. And then Kansas City, I feel like it uses a lot to create mismatches in the past game. So it's kind of true to the strengths of these teams. NFL 2K, Kittle and Kelsey. Oh, I like that. Thanks.
Starting point is 01:24:16 Yeah. To 1,000 yard tight ends. Oh, that was like one of those. Yeah, I like that. Let me think about what the fuck he means. Okay. Yeah, two, 1,000 yard tight ends.
Starting point is 01:24:35 The first time has ever happened, you know, obviously take your pick, who you like. Who would you have on your team? Kettle. Yeah, probably, I mean, probably just because he's doing the blocking stuff. I mean, Kelsey is electric with the ball in his hands. Actually, he's been the most productive tight end in the playoffs the last half decade,
Starting point is 01:24:52 and that included, like, Gronk and everything. So, nineers allowed, like, 550. yards to tight ends, which is the fewest in the NFL. So that's something you've got to feel good about if you're a Niners fan. The Chiefs allow the fifth most of the tight ends in the league at almost 1,000 yards. So how do you defend Kittle? You know, I think that plays in the run game. There's something you can do that will help the run in the past game.
Starting point is 01:25:18 And as you watch him dominate defensive ends through the playoffs, it has been guys lined up, head up on him. I know you watched the Green Bay game. They showed you a lot of replays and told you, hey, he's dominating Zadarius Smith, whatever. He really wasn't. I mean, Z is a physical dude in the run game. Kittle is the best at blocking.
Starting point is 01:25:38 He is a hell of a player. But that was not the ass kicking he was giving to Everson Griffin and Hunter the week before. Those guys were head up in six techniques. Now, the guys in Green Bay were in nine techniques, which means they're outside eye of the tight end, getting up the field, setting an edge three yards in the backfield. The problem with the Packers,
Starting point is 01:25:58 is they play on different levels. So the interior guys do not get penetration, the outside guys, they get three yards deep in the back field, which is what you want. Now, Steve Spagnola, I played in his defense, he's going to have you in the frog stance, like the Vikings playing six-eye, head up,
Starting point is 01:26:15 head up on the tight end, which means you have the C gap, which is the inside gap, inside the tight end, and then you help out your like the vice tackle player on something outside that bounces outside. A lot of times you look at it, and you're like, well, the defensive end is not set in the edge. Well, the defensive end is in a six technique.
Starting point is 01:26:32 That's not, the D-Gap is not his gap. He's there to help. Here's what you can do. It's really hard playing that technique. Just bump your defensive end out to a nine. Now what that'll do is that'll make things easier on the coverage players. You could jam Kittle at the line as you set the edge. It affects his release.
Starting point is 01:26:49 It makes things simpler on the second level guys because they know his release can't be outside. It's only inside. So that very thing can help stifle Kittles production. and he hasn't been productive in the playoffs because he hadn't had to be. I mean, you know, less than 20 yards, both games, which is crazy. You haven't even had to use your best player.
Starting point is 01:27:07 But when he needs a player or a play this weekend, it's going to be Kittal. And you can do some things in the run game that can help. Now, the Chiefs have only allowed 100-yard rusher since week 10. Before that, five of them. So they've been better, but this is a different animal. And Jimmy G's good against stack boxes.
Starting point is 01:27:28 10 yards per attempt, third most in yards. So you got to figure something out. I think it starts with moving your defensive ends outside. That'll disrupt the most important tight end in this game. Chris? Yes, Makin. What is the D. Ford effect? The D. Ford effect is, I think he's one of the most under radar guys in this game.
Starting point is 01:27:47 I think all year we have rightfully given Joey Bosa a lot of credit. I mean, I haven't seen a rookie that complete at defensive end in quite a while, maybe since his brother. Dee Ford is a guy who bounced around and obviously one of the smaller storylines was him being traded from Kansas City to San Francisco after he lined up in the neutral zone
Starting point is 01:28:11 and effectively caused his team the game. He's got a chance to be redemptive and make some big plays this Sunday. All he's done all year has made them better. I think his rush lanes are huge. We talked about this. He's going to be rushing in the left, end, Mitchell Schwartz, your best offensive lineman for Kansas City and your best edge rusher
Starting point is 01:28:31 for San Francisco and D Ford. And it's not a great matchup for D. Mitchell Schwartz, he's going to set back. You're going to have to get in his body, engage him, and then pull him by. So for people listening, like, you go to power rush a guy to dumb it down. You go to power rush a guy, bull rush and put your face in his chest. And then as he leans, that's the one thing that Mitchell does. he'll lean and get top heavy and you can drop him. But the thing you have to be careful about with Pat Mahomes is his depth of his drop target. He will drift back.
Starting point is 01:29:04 If you watch games, he drifts back. So you think that makes it easier on a pass rusher. It does, but you can't win with just straight speed because he'll see that big B gap, step up and do what he did to the Titans before the half. D. Ford, he boosts the pressure rate to 34% when he's on the field. When he's off the field, it's like 22.
Starting point is 01:29:23 So a big difference. The sack rate, it's even more glaring. 15% with him on the field, 5% with him off. Bosa's pressure rate is half of what it is with him off the field. So with him on the field when he's off the field. So for two straight years, D-40, he's been on a leading sack team in the NFL now. And it's more than a coincidence. He's a really good player, but he's got a really big challenge and a bad matchup for him this weekend
Starting point is 01:29:48 and that you can't just use speed against Mitchell Schwartz, and you got to play with one eye on Mahomes. You can't give him that B-Gap. and then being on Mahomes' ball hand side and his vision side, you can't let Mahomes drift back and then take shots, you know, rolling to his right comfortably.
Starting point is 01:30:05 So it's a tough job for him. Honestly, from a matchup standpoint, I would like to see Bosa on Mitchell Schwartz. I think that's a better matchup. Put DeFord on the right. I don't think that's going to happen because guys are particular about that where D. Ford can rush with speed
Starting point is 01:30:20 and attack the blind side where Pat's not going to see him at 11 yards. and skate out the backside through the B gap, you know, put them over there, that'd be better for the rush lanes. This is good stuff, and I have a legitimate question. Yeah. Is everybody in the NFL this knowledgeable?
Starting point is 01:30:38 Yes. Is this what, this is why you go to work every day to know your opponent, know the matchup, know how far the opposing quarterback is dropping, et cetera. Well, like, you're getting ready to rush Mahomes, and somebody asked me, like, what's, what's it like Rush Mahomes? What's his mobility do?
Starting point is 01:30:59 It's not really the fact that he's like a burner. He's not like this guy runs a four or five. He's got that far thing. And that's who he was compared to. And he's really perceptive about the holes in your rush lanes. You know, he's going to drift to get vision by time. But I think he's going to have to be very wary of the interior rushers this week. I've said this a lot.
Starting point is 01:31:23 The edge guys are great. but the interior guys in San Francisco have been making it go and people have been eating off them and their penetration. So I think the biggest matchup that the Niners have to win are their interior players
Starting point is 01:31:38 against Kansas City's interior o'lin and if they take advantage of that those edge guys could have a big day but what D Ford can't do is just try to run the hump 12 yards 12 yards 12 yards if you do that you're going to give them that big B gap step up. Now one thing I think might work
Starting point is 01:31:54 for them on that left side if you do keep D. Ford over there is run a TE, a tackle up the field, you know, D. Ford get to eight yards, play tag with the tackle, come underneath because they are susceptible to that in Kansas City. You didn't answer my question. You just gave me more good stuff. Yeah, I, uh, it, oh, the question was, does everybody know this stuff? No, not, not every D-Liamen, but I'm no expert on the back end. I mean, I know stuff on the back end, but I know what I know about pass rush and rush lanes and that sort of thing because I've seen a lot of different quarterbacks. I came in a league when quarterbacks were kind of one way. You know, you had your outliers like a Mike Vic or something who was very athletic. But, you know, when I left the league,
Starting point is 01:32:34 you were playing a Deshawn Watson type guy every other week. I just think the perception is football player. You go run into somebody as hard as you possibly can. And you're telling me you have eight different things in your mind pre-snap, which you could potentially do. You know. And there's a ton of games. I mean, like, for instance, you know, some teams have arm bands where you see D.Lyman with arm bands. I used to hate that because that means the coaches are calling the games. And then, like, you know, you get in a situation where you just,
Starting point is 01:33:03 you know, if I know I just stab somebody's outside shoulder and they felt the power, I know next play, there's the right time for me to go stab, spin, or, you know, flash to speed. And then I get a, you know, the play caller on defense sees a signal. He's like, oh, we got to run a mix. or which is a TE and ET, tackle first, end around, and on the other side, end inside, tackle around.
Starting point is 01:33:27 That can be pretty fucking annoying. So I think that every D-Line is going to have at least one veteran guy who understands rushing in the rush lanes. Not every young guy gets it, but when you look at this group, you've got Bosa who just came in a league, Buckner, who's younger interior guy,
Starting point is 01:33:46 Armstead, younger interior guy, and D. Ford is kind of your veteran, right? D-Fort has to have a good game, but he's got to have a smart game. How do you pressure Patrick Mahomes? The way I would play him, like I said, is I would put both side, have your power guy on the left.
Starting point is 01:34:04 You could run fish hooks, which is you take a guy on the left side and you say, if Joey Bosa's over there on the left, now I used to rush on the left because you got more of the power rush over on that side. Nick? Yeah, Nick Bosa, sorry.
Starting point is 01:34:19 Kyle Long, Chris. It's Kyle Long with the green light, Jake Long. So you get Nick Bosa over there at the left end. You say,
Starting point is 01:34:27 hey, you go right down Mitchell Schwartz's shit. You put your helmet on his inside shoulder pad. And don't get washed, because that's a key. If you're going to rush
Starting point is 01:34:38 somebody's inside shoulder, you got to bury your head, you got to lift them, and then you have to stay balanced. Because a lot of times you power somebody's inside shoulder, they're just going to run you inside like a dry block
Starting point is 01:34:48 and you just get washed. But the point of that is to affect Pat Mahomes' vision, he's going to see either an inside move by Nick on the left or a power rush on Mitchell Schwartz's inside shoulder, and what's D.4 doing on the backside? Running the hump, 9, 10, 11 yards. Don't care if you get high, just be there to chase Pat down
Starting point is 01:35:10 because the minute Pat sees Nick puncture the pocket, he's going to take off and roll right to get out of that trash. And what you have in a fish hook is you have an inside guy, guy and somebody run the hump. We used to run it in St. Louis where I would be the power guy. Rob would be the blind side speed guy. And then we'd run in Philly a lot, different sides. So that's how I would rush him. I would rush. I'd always have a ball hand power guy. And if I am going to run speed, I need to be very wary of that B gap, which means if I'm going to run the hump like D4 likes to do, I need to tell my guy inside to play with more balance and definitely don't take an inside move.
Starting point is 01:35:45 because if he takes an inside move at tackle, think about this now, inside move at tackle, D. Ford running 12 yards on a hump and drop targets 8 to 10 yards, that B gap is massive and he'll do what he did against Tennessee. And that was a backbreaker. So schematically, I don't think you blitz him. You know, rush lane-wise, that's all great. I don't think you blitz him.
Starting point is 01:36:09 And San Francisco's not a blitzing-type team. They can get pressure with four. So it's a great match-up for them because my home is I think he's 23 touchdowns, one interceptions, one interception, singular. That's amazing to me when he's facing five rushers or more. So when teams are bringing pressure, he's, he's accurate with it. And his passer rating is 116 versus, versus, you know, blitz and versus a four-man rush. He's 64 touchdowns, 16 interceptions. So, I mean, definitely not as, surprisingly, he's better against the blitz
Starting point is 01:36:50 and he is against four men. I think part of that is because he feels comfortable and he gets greedy. He's actually 16 of his 17 interceptions have come against seven coverage guys. Three interceptions, three times the rate when he's seeing four-man rushes as he is when he's seeing blitz,
Starting point is 01:37:09 and that's counterintuitive. So San Francisco has the highest non-blitz pressure rate in the league. It's a good matchup for them. Look at the Titans game last week. They pressured him like 12 times. 10 of the 12 were four men. And out of those 10, I think he was three of 10 for like nine yards and two sacks.
Starting point is 01:37:27 So that's a good, that's what really keeps me up at night. If I'm Kansas City fan, is thinking about how he's going to deal with, not seeing heat and a big vacated space that he can buy time and just hit. He's going to have to throw in this sea of jerseys and find the tight windows. All right, so draft time. I take the jacket off. I'm overheating in here thinking about this big draft. We have to draft the defensive field Sunday,
Starting point is 01:37:57 the pool being any defensive players playing in the game Sunday. We did the offenses last podcast. I'll read my team and what it turned. This is a good team here. It's a snake draft we did and we will continue to do. Maken drew the first pick offensively, So of course he took Pat Mahomes. Then I had two picks.
Starting point is 01:38:18 And with those two picks, I took George Kittle and Travis Kelsey. Savage. Savage move. Then at wide receiver, I have Debo Samuel and Kendrick Bourne. I snagged him late. Don't know what he's going to do, but we're going to do something with him. Ben Garland at center, LDT at Guard, along with Wiley. And then at tackle, I have Mitchell Schwartz and Eric Fisher,
Starting point is 01:38:41 Tevin Coleman, a healthy Tevin Coleman at running back in Jimmy G. I picked him last because I knew that, you know, the rule is you can't get two quarterbacks and Macon had taken one with the first pick. Making, what's your team look like? My old line goes Joe Staley, Mike McGlinchy, Stefan Wisniewski, Lakin, Tomlinson, Austin, Ryder, or perhaps Reader, probably Ryder. You said I went my homes at one. I did indeed.
Starting point is 01:39:04 His weapons are Moestered. Tyreek Hill, Emmanuel Sanders, Sammy Watkins, and Kyle Ushack at H-back. Yeah. So I have a conundrum here. You're a team that's built for speed here. Yeah, how should I defend two tight ends? How are you going to use your two tight ends? I got a litany of ways that I could use them.
Starting point is 01:39:31 No, a litany? A litany, bro. Damn. The fucking litany. I am, after all that knowledge you just dropped, I am a bit intimidated about this D draft. Don't be into it. Anyways.
Starting point is 01:39:47 But I mean, it's not just Kittle and Kelsey. I've got Debo. Not worried about Debo. The best complete wide receiver on the field Sunday. So, also my O line is more physical. You seem to be a finesse team, a speed finesse team. My team is way better at this point. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:05 Okay. Other than Pat Mahomes. But the door is open for you to make up some ground. So it is, I get first pick, eh? You do, eh? Yeah, because you got it. with, can I defer? No.
Starting point is 01:40:16 Oh, you want me to have first thing? Yes, I do. In that case, I'm going to take the best defensive player on the field Sunday. And that guy, I know that I'm a lineman, okay? So maybe he's not the highest graded on pro football focus, but the guy that scares everybody is Chris Jones. I'm going to take him with one. Okay.
Starting point is 01:40:40 Fine pick. Oh, thanks. I'm going to take No draft alert noise this week Ding Dittling ding ding Ding ding
Starting point is 01:40:54 Ding I can't even Oh yeah Dun Dada da da Yeah I can't even So who do you
Starting point is 01:41:01 So who do you got Bro I'll work on You work on the thing While I make my next Brilliant pick Okay Well I'm going to draft
Starting point is 01:41:09 Two people Yeah Snake Draft I'm going to draft Richard Sherman he's awesome but can he cover George Kittle or Travis Kelsey
Starting point is 01:41:24 and Tyron Matthew that's terrific I see what we're doing here oh that's not what I was after okay let's go team making so now I get
Starting point is 01:41:45 so now I get one I get one as you fumble with your iPhone 4 I get one I get one pick and then you get two again you get two bro Is your first draft?
Starting point is 01:41:55 No. Well, you, listen, you look at my offensive team that we're fielding here. It's obviously not my first draft. I get two here. Okay,
Starting point is 01:42:04 first and foremost, the only thing I really have to worry about with you is shutting down Tyreek Hill. I don't know that anybody... Yeah, I don't know that anybody truly can shut down Tyreek Hill. You took...
Starting point is 01:42:15 I'm going to take Ward. No, no, no, no. I'm going to take Williams because I need a good nickel here. So I'll take Williams and then I'm going to take an edge guy. I am going to take, and this is going to shock
Starting point is 01:42:28 some people. Be true to you. Don't try to be true to pro football focus. No, I'm not. You know what I'm going to do? Because you have one pick next? No, two from here on out until you finish with one. Okay, I'm having trouble with the snake
Starting point is 01:42:44 draft here. Sounded so smart just a few minutes ago. But it's things like this that I struggle with. I will take, golly, this is tough. Okay. I'll take Ward and... You just took Kwan Williams. No, Williams and...
Starting point is 01:43:01 This is a disaster. Well, the only thing you can really run is stretch with Mostert and your offense not being very physical. I'm going to take Armstead. It's a shocker there, but... I've got two D-tackles that you have to contend with here,
Starting point is 01:43:20 and there's so many edge guys. I'm going to be able to snag one, no matter what. That leaves the door open for me to take Nick Bosa and I'm going to pair him with Kwan Alexander. Wow, that's a really good pick. I like that. Thank you. Linebackers are not going to be our strong suit. Oh, you know what though? I do love Fred Warner. I think I'm going to go ahead and snag there's two edge guys left here. I tip my hat
Starting point is 01:43:57 my my my you're wearing one. Yeah, tip it. I'll tip it right here. I'll take this is why you need a big board. Did you take Fred Warner there or you were just loving on him? I'm loving on Fred Warner. Okay.
Starting point is 01:44:17 You know what I'll do? I'll go... Take your time. I know they're going to edit this out anyways. You've got Bosa. He's off the board. I like Frank Clark and Frank Clark
Starting point is 01:44:33 and Warner. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Okay. That means I'm going to take... Wow. That guy's still there. Wow. Okay. Oh, goodness. I have a decision here. Don't you?
Starting point is 01:45:04 I'm going to take Jimmy Ward, who is still there. He's a tremendous player. Your secondary is really shaping up nicely. And DeForest Buckner. Nice. Okay. I suppose I need a corner. I'm going to take best available at corner, and that's probably Mosley.
Starting point is 01:45:35 I would say so. So I probably take Mosley at corner. Now I have a nickel, a corner, and man, I don't need any D-line depth. My D-line is terrific. I'm going to snag another corner here. Probably the next best corner is Fuller. Okay.
Starting point is 01:46:06 I know he, I know, slim pickings. I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with, with Fuller. Seems to tackle well. Okay. We're going to need him to come down
Starting point is 01:46:19 and make some tackles on your finesse run game. Okay, I'm going to sprint to the podium right here and take D Ford. Now this is, there's no fatigue involved here, right? No, but you can't. What do you mean? Oh, I don't have two D-Ns yet.
Starting point is 01:46:40 Damn it, I fucked that up. Khan, you sort of do. No, I don't. Well, I need two-edge guys. I fucked it up. That's a bad oversight. You hate to see it. Bad oversight.
Starting point is 01:46:53 We would have D-Ford here. Golly, what are we doing? This draft is shit. No, it's going well. Oh, my God. four, five, six, seven, okay. I can't believe I just forgot fucking D. Ford was on the board. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:18 Yeah, the crowd didn't let you forget. I will go because I gave pro football focused $9.99 for a week subscription to get these player grades. I'll go Dorian O'Daniel 79.8 Dorian O'Daniel Got it And Drey Greenlaw You're on the clock with two picks, Chris
Starting point is 01:47:49 Okay, so I guess I'll take I'll take I need some leadership And the guy that can set the edge Even at his age still And here's the thing about Suggs This is, I'm going to take Suggs here And this is a funny pick
Starting point is 01:48:13 because everybody tell you he's washed but for one Sunday you load that guy up with Toradole and tell him to run right down who's your right tackle? McGlinchie? Yep.
Starting point is 01:48:23 Run right down his shit and this is the thing four man rush we talked about earlier is going to get Mahomes rattled we're going to rush with power on the left side
Starting point is 01:48:34 we got Suggs on the left side we've got Frank Clark on the right side and then I'm gonna I need one more linebacker who's probably the best linebacker left be a friend here
Starting point is 01:48:43 Reggie Ragland You think Chiefs Oh Sorensen can move around I like Sorensen Okay Sorensen Now can you be a friend
Starting point is 01:48:57 Yeah I've got Three D-Lymin Three linebackers Do I go like a Do I go 43 Do I go 34 Do I go 335
Starting point is 01:49:11 You have three D linemen and three linebackers. And three linebackers. That's going to be a... And four in the secondary, but I have two picks right now. I just don't...
Starting point is 01:49:21 I would play a four-three against us. I really would. With your two tight ends? Yeah, I really would. And you're being serious? I just would. I mean, you will be judged... I'm not a three-four guy.
Starting point is 01:49:34 You'll be judged... What would Al-Gro say about that? I mean, Al-Gro would not like that, but as a D-Liaman, I can't advise you to go with a three-four. because we're going to run it down your shit either way, but maybe even more so if you run a 3-4. Who are you running it down my S with?
Starting point is 01:49:52 Kevin Coleman. Okay, well, thank you for that. In that case, I'm going to take Sheldon Day. This is a disaster. How many players do I have to draft still? Charverius Ward. And you should be down to your. final pick. Oh, I should be. So I've got two linebackers as it is. I have two corners. I have a nickel.
Starting point is 01:50:31 I have 4D linemen. So it's really, I need a safety. Yeah. We're going to be in sub. Okay. Because we don't really respect your run game. Okay. Golly, who's a safety left. I mean, we already, I mean, Sorensen is, I mean, Sorensen is, right. He's kind of a tweener. I need a real linebacker. I'm going to take Ragland. Yeah, that's the right pick. You know what?
Starting point is 01:51:06 I'll even fire up the old machine for you. That's a good pick. Thank you. I appreciate it. We can go through the lineup right here. Do you have yours ready? Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:51:16 I have Armstead and Jones at tackles. I have Frank Clark and Sizzle at ends. I have Ward as my nickel. I have Warner as a backer. I have Sorensen as kind of a swing player, can do both. Ragland as a linebacker, and I've got Mosley and Fuller as my corners.
Starting point is 01:51:35 I am nervous about the corner position. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. I might be if I were you as well. I have Nick Bosa and D. Ford on the outside, de Forrest Buckner and Sheldon Day inside. Backers O'Donnell, Dre Greenlaw, and Kwan Alexander. The team's better.
Starting point is 01:51:54 and in the secondary Richard Sherman Charvarius Ward Jimmy Ward and Tyron Matthew yeah had a good draft Damn you just kicked my ass at the defensive draft Shout out to Kingston Dan Derry a lot of people have helped me get here Shout out pro football focus
Starting point is 01:52:11 Yeah I just kind of winged it This is one of those things I would like to I would like to just throw it out there That my son had the flu this week So you know I didn't really have a lot of time Is he feeling better? He is shout out to Waylon
Starting point is 01:52:24 You know, there wasn't a lot of time to do big board stuff. So it's not an excuse, but it just kind of is what it is. Hey, well, that's why they go out there and play the games. You know, these two fake teams will run out there. You never know. I'm glad this is buried at the very end of the podcast. That's right. Nobody will get this far. So if you stuck with us, thank you, I think.
Starting point is 01:52:44 And I'm going to be headed to Miami. Macon will not be. I don't leave Charlottesville. He doesn't leave Charlottesville. So I will see you guys, you know, you'll hear me. We won't be doing YouTube later this week. We'll just be doing audio pod and I will be doing it down from Miami.
Starting point is 01:53:00 We'll be having some fun guests on. Also look for interview with Tori Smith and some other of my friends coming out on Chalk Network recounting some Super Bowl experiences and stories this week. And we'll see you later this week. Go Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:53:16 Go Super Bowl. Y'all take care.

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