Green Light with Chris Long - Ep. 31 - Coronavirus in the NFL Draft. Ram's Logo, March Madness, Yanda Retirement.

Episode Date: March 11, 2020

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Welcome to Greenlight Pod number 31. I'm your host, Chris Long. We have a lot of fun news about my co-host's weekend, making Gunner. Also going to give you a little March Madness Riffin. And a lot of NFL news. Yonda retired. We've got the draft in Vegas and question now. Should be a jam-pack show.

Welcome to Greenlight Pod. I am your host, Chris Long. this is my co-host, Mr. Macon Gunner. Thank you. Yes. Yeah. Yep. Back in business.

That's right. It's a long weekend. It feels like we haven't been in the booth in a while. And there's a lot going on. There's a lot of NFL stuff going on today. This is where the off season really picks up coming up here soon. So we'll get to that. We'll talk about March Madness.

Best time of the year, yeah? Yes. Yes. Best sporting event. Ever. Ever. And it happens every year. We're lucky like that.

We are really lucky with March Madness. I never know how to feel about it because the whole amateurism thing. I am complicit. I lay bets. I watch it all. And there's really nothing I can do about the amateurism part. Good luck. Yeah.

But I love March Madness. It's my favorite sporting event here. I'm a volume guy. That's why I like Wild Card Week. that's why I like, you know, divisional weekend over championship weekend, that whole deal. I think that even for as great as March Maddenous is,

the final four is my least favorite part of it. I'd agree. It's wild to think that after this first weekend, this flurry, you're already in the Sweet 16. Yeah, it's a little bit, it's a little bit scary. We have a bracket on Sunday. We got a bracket on Sunday, and we got a,

we're going to have a punishment worked out for the bottom dweller in our local bracket here in Charlottesville, Virginia. Okay. But we haven't figured that punishment out yet, specifically. We talked about it on the last pod. We'll get to that by the end of the week. Show number 31, pod number 31. As you know, we like to recognize our favorite players

with the corresponding jersey numbers. I'll let you go first. Okay. Born on June 20th, 1985, he stands seven feet tall. His name is Darko Milichich. Oh. You can see him here. Yeah.

Sporting his Matt Conrath hair. After he gets drafted by the Pistons, puts the 3xl, maybe 6xl jersey, over the suit. Let's dive right in, Chris. Darco averaged 1.4, 1.8, and 1.5 points per game in his first three seasons.

He retired in the year... What was his plus minus though? 2013. He retired with career averages of 6 points and 4.2 rebounds per game. In September 2014, it was revealed that Milichich had retired

from professional basketball in order to pursue a kickboxing career. scroll down on your Wikipedia.com to kickboxing career. Whoa. Milichich had a stint in kickboxing during 2014. On December 18th, 2014, he had his official first debut in kickboxing under the W.A.K.O. Rules in his hometown of Navi Sad, certainly mispronounced that. He lost that fight by second round knockout from Serbian kickboxer Radivon Radocchin from

Sinta Serbia. It's such a Serbian name. Milichich now works as a farmer in his native Serbia. As of August 2017, he owned not rated an apple orchard of about 125 acres with plans to purchase more land and grow cherries. Yo, dude. Darko, man. They need to make a movie on Darko.

And, I mean, not to be confused with Donnie Darko, this is the real Darko. This is the real Darko. Darko married Zerana. Marcuse in 2009. She is a fashion designer and the sister of the deceased Serbian criminal, Marco Marcus. Now, there's probably a lot of other things that Marco did that you didn't need to lead with criminal. Hey. What kind of crimes did he?

I don't know. I haven't. This is a rabbit hole that I could spend some time in. Wow, this darko rabbit hole is something else. Darko Milichich acts like a drunken fool, sings karaoke shirtless. And YouTube.com, I think we have a picture of Darko drinking just a hair. Dude. Oh.

Let me take you back to the 2003 NBA draft. Number one pick, Lebron James. Oh, boy. Number two, Darko Milichich. Number three, Carmelo Anthony. Number four, Chris Bosch, number five, Dwayne Wade. Pretty stacked draft. Yeah.

Except for a guy. Sucks to be that guy because I feel like in NBA drafts, there's always like a high percentage of guys that don't pan out. For sure. Even in the top 10, guys that have, you know... Michael Sweetney was nine, for instance. Yeah, but that year there was just nowhere to hide. Right.

Okay, so... Another overall number two to join your ranks. Yep, join my ranks. I have not retired to become a cherry farmer or a kickboxer, but I am going to do jujitsu soon, so... And I can see the cherry farming in your future. Yeah, you could... I used to want to do alpaca farming.

That's a real thing. that I really about five years ago thought that's what I'm doing when I retired never thought I was going to do podcasting wanted to be an alpaca farmer they're really the wool is just luxurious yeah yeah

and you don't have to kill them I don't like killing animals yeah you just shear them and make a boatload of money I don't know what's taking me so long probably after this podcast goes under that's where you'll find me darkos make a bit of a basketball comeback

this year, he plays for something called KK, I Came to Play. What? Which is a men's amateur basketball club in Serbia. Yo, Darko got kind of big in this drinking picture. They are currently competing in the fourth tier, second regional league North Division. Well. And I hope they're running the show with Darko. They got to be.

Who are these comrades tattooed on his rib cage? Oh, I can answer that, but it might take me a little while. Oh, tattoos of World War II leaders. That's kind of scary because there was only two kind of people in World War II. Good and evil. Eastern Block, not so sure. We'll let the Friends of the Pod go to the Lucky Page too. Yeah, figure out if you can who Darko has tattooed on his ribcage.

And got a couple on his back as well. Very Eastern Block tattoos. Like if you see him in a bathroom, bath house. If you've seen Eastern Promises, you know how it goes. I haven't. Well, that's a scene you want to avoid. I mean, it's essentially, it's naked dudes fighting to the death in a bathhouse.

And I believe it was in Russia. I haven't seen the movie in a while. Eastern Promises, though, good movie from what I remember. It's funny because you picked an international NBA star, and I did too. Wow. Any guesses? Regissimo Miller. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Now, as I look at Darko, I mean, he could kick you from another area code. How does he not beat everybody up? It's kickboxing, not wrestling, right? He had one bout, got knocked out, and peace. He had one bout. Yeah. Yep.

Jesus. In 0607, he averaged eight points with the magic. That was a good year. He was with your New York Knicks for a stint, one-year playday games. Well, highly forgettable. I actually picked the guy that got drafted by the Knicks as well at number seven, and I think this was maybe the 0-2 draft.

Yeah, at seven by the Knicks and dealt to the Nuggets. Any guesses at this point? Am I heating up here? No. May Biner. Rodney Hilario, aka Nene. Nice. Yeah, number 31 for the Denver Nuggets,

played there about a decade. The coolest fucking, and by the way, that's Nene with no dreads, fresh out of Brazil. He changed his name to, he shed the majority of his name. In fact, his entire name to do the one-name Brazilian Soccer Star thing,

where they just, I just have one name, which I think is so cool. I mean, it just, that's a custom I would like to bring to the, to the NFL, to America. What would be your name? La Flama Blanca. Yeah, although that's multiple.

Well, it, it harkens back to the XFL days of, he hate me, Rod Smart. What would your name be if you could have one name? Macon. Yeah, that's, that's not going to make the league any money. I got to think about that. But his name, Nenei, interestingly, translates to baby. Huh.

It's like, what? Six foot 11, 250. Played 10 years in Denver, played for the Wizards. Plays for the Rockets still. Plays for the Rockets. Currently plays for the Rockets. Unless something's happened. I didn't go on too deep a dive and watch any 2020-N-N-A highlights.

But I'll tell you what you get a lot with him. And again, drafted by the Knicks, ended up with the Nuggets. And back in his Nuggets days, he used to tussle a lot. And if you go on YouTube.com, you can find a lot of, he's a big arm bar rebound guy, like a frustrated big man putting other cats in an arm bar and gotten a little tussle with our own Justin Anderson. Yeah. Didn't escalate.

But the Jimmy Butler altercation was a little bit more serious. There was a bit of a headbut. They were forehead to forehead, had to be separated. I got to say, and I watched him for years, when you know a guy's Brazilian, you think he might know Brazilian jiu-jitsu. And so I just generally don't think you fuck with that guy. And I'd have to talk to an NBA player

because a lot of times players get reps, and the reps outwardly don't match the first. fraternity rep, which would be like, hey, we know about this guy in the NFL. Everybody thinks he's tough. He's actually not that tough. I suspect that Neney's pretty tough. He used to get after Perkins. He had an ACL. He beat testicular cancer. He had a lot of bad luck. Grew up in a house, six people living in a two-bedroom, Cinderblock house, Tinroof, in Sao Carlos, Brazil, actually.

And they moved his family downtown when he got drafted because in Brazil you have to worry about kidnappings and ransom and shit. Yeah, it's a real thing. Grew up playing basketball by parking two jeeps 95 feet apart and putting little baskets on them with wires and fishing net for rims and nets. So I guess that begs the question, why even go through the trouble of mocking up a net?

Right. Yeah. Although, if you go shoot hoop and there's no net on the rim. How do you know from distance if it drop? Right. It just feels better with the net. It does feel better with the net. And I'm praising the ingenuity that Katz had in Sal Carlos Brazil.

I mean, the jeeps was enough for me. I mean, when I read that they were pulling two jeeps up 95 feet apart. And once you do that, the NBA is easy. Now, he had a lot of injuries, but he was really, really good early on. Wheels kind of fell off and he's just been a really solid player since in the NBA. Again, used to get after Kendrick Perkins. You can see the Jimmy Butler, a little scuffle online. You had Justin Anderson and the guy knows Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu,

but Kenyon Martin claims he broke his orbital in a fight. But that's only corroborated by Kenyon Martin. A really stinky draft. Was it a stinky draft? Yeah. Yao, Amare, and Karam Butler are the names you're going to know. Nick Skitteshvili, Duwan Wagner.

Duwan Wagner. Chris Wilcox, Jared Jeffries, Melvin Eli. Chris Wilcox, Maryland. Correct. Duwan Wagner. I mean, you know the names. They just didn't pin out. Memphis.

Memphis. Memphis. That was it. Marcus Hayslip, Fred Jones. Yeah, I know. Botschon Knockbar. Yeri Welsh. Curtis Borker.

Who is Boston Nachon? Basha Nakbar. Glad you asked. From Slovenia and went to the Rockets. Is he in a kickboxing league now? Probably so. Shit. Kintel Woods,

Kareem Rush, Casey Jacobson. You know who you don't fuck with in the NBA? That's David West. That's right. David West really does like martial arts. Really does martial arts.

Yeah. Like, from what I hear people in the NBA are afraid of David West. Anyways, that's my 31. Neney, I was really, Two rabbit hole picks today.

Mm-hmm. You know, that, uh, Milichich. Look, I had to have a little come-to-jesus conversation with myself about whether or not I liked Reggie Miller. Yeah. And I still don't know if I have a definitive answer. I think I like, listen, I'm a Knicks fan. I couldn't do it because of that whole history. But Celtics too, right?

Yeah, Celtics as well, uh, this year, just this year. Uh, lost a bet. So Reggie to me is likable. The verdict came back. You know, a jury was out for two decades for me. And one day it just hit me, listening to him do games. He's really just a really good guy, I think. Likeable, chill dude.

Now there was the whole choke thing. Right. There was the whole tormenting my Knicks thing. He mimicked a choke. Yeah. He didn't choke. Yeah, he just mimicked. He just scored about.

20 points and four seconds. He didn't spreewell somebody. Right, right. And by the way, there might be another PJ Carlissimo mentioned in this pod today. Oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Something came up talking about the NCAA tournament.

My finalist? Yeah. My other finalist who lost out to Darko? Priest Holmes. Just kind of because his name is Priest Holmes. Yeah, that's a good one. Great name. Yeah, yeah, that's a great name.

Al Harris was on my list. Two teammates of mine, Al Harris, most famously picking off Matt Hasselbeck, we want the ball and we're going to score. That's a remember where you were when that happened kind of moment in the NFL. That's an iconic playoff memory. And then Cortland Finnegan. But I don't want to make this teammate show and tell. So I left those guys off.

Let's talk about the weekend. Me and my lovely wife, Meg, had a wonderful weekend. Would you do? Um, let's see. Here's the deal. I no longer have a lovely girlfriend, Kate. Damn, you want to break it to us? What happened?

I now have a lovely wife, Kate. Wow. As you can see here on. Hold on. On YouTube. Hold on. I'll stall while you do whatever you're doing. Greg Maddox, another 31.

John Lester, a 31. Okay, okay. Not interested in that. more interested in what you just said i did go to a wedding this weekend yeah it was mine yep it was and i was looking for an applause soundboard but it's taken too long stephanie dulcson another 31 thank you thank you way to get married buddy thanks man i appreciate it is uh your wedding day is that day is that day zero or day so it's funny you guys because i texted you how was day one oh and that was the morning after i think day one is is the next day okay so i'm now on day two

Yeah, yeah. And it's going great. I'm a very lucky man in many different ways. Yeah. Mostly one, and that's being married to your lovely wife, Kate. And that's being married to my lovely wife, Kate. But also to be... Tall.

Tall, being tall is good. Living in this humble world-class city of Charlottesville. Podcaster. Too. And you were there, meant the world. Yeah. You said a toast. It was great.

You mostly talked about Kate. I didn't really hear of my name. It was kind of a toast. toast to Kate. Yeah. I was waiting for the second half. I was like, this is going to be good. You know, that's one thing to talk about when you toast at a wedding.

I never want to be like, I'm just going to blow my friend here for five minutes. Well, it's... Appreciate you're not doing that. Well, I didn't really have a lot of material. Yeah. Yeah. Thanks. I mean what I said, you know.

It's very charitable of Kate to marry you. And I think it's, I think it's... I think... It's wonderful. That's for sure. I was kind of confusing. You did a small thing. Very small.

For those in my life who are hearing this news for the first time, please don't feel bad. There are many out there. There's only 300 people at this wedding. An intimate affair. Probably about 10 folks. Yeah, legitimately about 10, 15 folks. Legitimately about 10, 15.

And maybe we'll do a, well, we kind of turned it into a proper celebration. Well, we can party. No, we got drunk in a room full of 10 people. You can always get drunk in a room full of 300 people. Yeah, Bad Back Back, he did a headstand. Did a headstand. I did not know that Bad Back Back you could walk on his hands. It was a lovely evening.

Now, I guess the big question that arose here during this wedding was, I didn't know that if you clinked your glass, you had to kiss the bride. Yeah. Is that like a thing? I had never heard that before. Yeah. I think Paul Kett made that up on the spot, but hey, I'll take any excuse to kiss my lovely wife, Kate.

So you're loving saying that. Let me ask you a do's and don'ts of toasts. Okay. Before you get going, I think the thing I'm best at in my life is toasting, and yet I knew I wasn't going to be, Kate said, hey, you got to start off the toast tonight. basically. I got very little notice. So I like to what do you call when you memorize something?

Yeah, memorizing it. Okay, I like to memorize it, but I had to pull it out on a, write it down, pull it out a piece of paper. Yeah, you never looked up once. No, I did. I did multiple times because I hit eyes with people. Maybe three. No, look, I know it wasn't my best effort. I really am. Listen, can you say, can you share the? contents of the of the toast sure i uh i started out with a quote from uh elwood blues of the blues brothers yeah it wasn't just a quote that was like half your toast was just elwood wrote your toast

yeah and i knew it was going to fall flat like it did in the palace hotel ballroom um but that was sort of the point it was a thing for me i gave kate two seconds heads up i said hey i'm going to do something weird you're not going to like it it's not going to be funny nobody's going to be nobody's going to laugh but i'm going to enjoy no some people laughed some some some some People laughed. You planted laughter. I did. For the record.

I did. I said, you get your toast ready or something came up and you said something, the effect of, do you like Blues Brothers? It's almost a, it's not a rhetorical question. It's just rhetorical in the expectation coming from you because you love the movie. And I said,

no, it's a total non-starter. I'm going to be honest, I don't remember very much of that movie at all. I haven't seen it since the 90s start to finish. And I know that's like one of those things. that if you say you haven't seen the Blues Brothers and you're in your 30s, it's fucking weird.

Maybe. But that goes into the conversation we had a few pods ago about all the sitcoms I didn't watch growing up. What was it? Save by the Bell. That sort of thing. Blues Brothers. So you read me...

Back to me. Yeah, you read the toast. I thank the members of the Illinois law enforcement community for joining us that evening. And there were none. That was sort of the joke. Had I not laughed, I don't think there was going to be a single laugh. And that would have been okay.

You planted a laugh and I busted my ass to make that toast work. Thank you. Well, the back half was touching. Yeah. Well, that part was from the heart. People in tears. Yeah, I didn't see that. Toast had everything.

People were laughing. I think it was one of those like your face hurts from smiling at the toast. Like, is it going to get to it? Is this all of Luz Brothers thing? I can't believe he's fucking doing this. I actually had to go, I didn't just laugh. I did extra,

extra credit here. I go, Blues Brothers to make sure everybody knew because you need some steering. I don't think it made a shit. Well, I couldn't see the forest for the trees.

I was so locked in. Yeah, you're locked down. I was a little nervous and such. Normally I'm not, though. You did a nice job. I think it was endearing

that, somebody who is as, I don't know what the word would be, but good speaking in public, loquacious? Sure. Is that a good word for that? Yeah, you're so loquacious. Yes, that you're up there and you're reading off a paper, you're making very little eye contact.

I know you locked a few eyes. It was almost endearing. You were nervous. You had your little toast written down. I was also talking about my parents and thought I was going to cry and didn't want to do that. And you did a good job. And so I was just really trying to power through to get to better toast.

Good wedding. One from my friend who failed to mention me. Failed to mention. I said you were honest. You did. Yes. For the record, that's not a quality that a lot of people share.

Now, preceding the wedding was your bachelor party. You piece of shit. Here's the thing about a bachelor party. I'm just going to, I want to lay this thing out here for guys that are north of 30. If you're getting married, I don't care if you don't want to go anywhere. I don't care if there's a coronavirus.

I don't care if you're broke. Like, you gotta throw a bachelor party. It's for the other guys. It's for the other 30-plus-year-old guys. We don't just get trips anymore. You know the thing about trips in your 20s? Like, they just, they fall by the wayside. As soon as you get married,

you think, you know, you take that first year, you take a couple trips and then turns into like 15% less. And then, you know, eventually the trips go away completely and you rely completely on things like bachelor parties and weddings. And so for you to forego your bachelor party traditionally was a little bit selfish, I thought. You know what I hate? What? Bachelor parties.

Why do you hate bachelor parties? Because I got one night in me max these days over 30. I can't go back to back anymore. Yeah, but we wouldn't have had to be. to go back to back, we could have gone to Vegas and did like, hey, the first night we, we get drunk, second night, we, we, we get kind of drunk and watch a show. I've done a Vegas bachelor. Shout out, Benny Boy, it was lovely, but one is enough. So we're trying to get your boy here to do a bachelor party. And I said, unselfishly for the,

for the rest of the group. What we were left with was an option where we could, we could have, within three weeks thrown together a midweek car travel bachelor party with a group of five, six guys or we had to take him to lunch. That's what we ended up doing. Taking make into lunch.

And where do we take you to lunch? Mickey Tavern. Mickey Tavern is a really old tavern in Charlottesville, Virginia. It has a gift shop. It has a restaurant. By the way, best fried chicken in Charlottesville. It was very good.

Never actually eaten there. It's down the hill from Monticello, which I've never been to. That's strange. Lived in Charlottesville since I was eight years old, 26 years, never been to Monticello. Hadn been to Mitchie Tavern. Khan.

Mickey Tavern. Yeah. Establish in 1784. It's a long time ago. Anyways, pretty sure it's haunted, super old, very colonial. And the joke, the running joke among cats, here in Seaville is that Macon is high key colonial looking.

Just the, he could, you could put him in a time machine, put him back in colonial times and he would thrive. The build, the outfits, these are adjusted for 2020, but this is essentially a colonial garb. Just adjusted for 2020. I think I would have thrived. You would have thrived, wooden teeth, white wig, you know? Yeah. All that other shit. So I walk in, I don't know we're going to Mickey Tavern until an hour before you say,

hey, show up at Mickey Tavern. Yeah. And I walk in, they say you're meeting some people. I say, yeah. Yeah. And I walked in and didn't see you guys. Well, you didn't see us because we were dressed like colonials. Look at these fuckers.

Okay. So there's Tommy Pawkett. There's bad backpack. He looks like he must be from another regiment. Me and Matt Conrath there. We've got the traditional garb on. We're drinking from copper cups. We got a little midday drunk at Mickey Tavern.

Speak for yourself. I did not. You didn't. I did. Come on. So the way this works, you have to get drunk to put on an outfit like this. And by the way, they were relatively comfortable. I don't want to say that people back in colonial times were comfortable

because the real deal, Holyfield colonial garb seems a lot, it seemed a lot hotter. It was like wool. Right. This stuff was pretty breathable. There we are again. Right. With the groom. And there's no such fomo as costume fomo.

While I was honored by this effort and expense, I really want to have my own. $33 as a group, by the way, 75% off. We got really lucky. Yeah. They were really trying to push this colonial garb out the door. When they first were like, the grand total is $1,100. I was about to just call the whole operation off. They were like, but it's on sale for $7,000.

percent off and I was still a little bit bothered by that but so what you do is you go up to this gift shop right and Mickey tavern is a tourist attraction but it's also a good restaurant and there's cool history in there okay uh and again it's a buffet they only serve southern fried chicken oh marinated baked chicken hickory smoked pork barbecue black eyed peas stewed tomatoes black eyed peas and buttermilk biscuits oh and it's delicious it was awesome so So here's the conundrum. As we planned this out, we thought it would be funny as shit, something to do, get faded midday,

do something for our boy, get a good laugh, get some good pictures in. But you forget the part of the equation, you know, that Mickey Tavern is a public place. Right. And, you know, kids in Quicks buses pulling up left and right, we go into the gift shop around, what was it like noon so it's about to be lunchtime and there's no buses in the in the parking lot i'm

like okay we're good we'll go in we'll put the shit on we try the the stuff on we pay then i realize we have to walk 200 yards to the actual restaurant there through the parking lot and i'm like god i hope there's no people in this parking lot so i walk out and i just hear kid noises like you know when you hear a bunch of kids field trip just a field trip soundtrack out the door and I'm like deep breath because kids intimidate me they're not that fucking cool but they think they are and when you think you're cool it can be pretty intimidating

well right they have confidence they have that confidence which they should not have right I walk out the door we all four of us dressed like Paul Revere walk out the door and by the way Matt Conner has 6-7 There's no hiding. I'm 64, 250.

Tom Paquette's 64, 270. Bad back back, he's small, but he's wearing a royal blue fucking, I don't know what. It looks like George Washington. He looks like George Washington, like George Washington's little brother. And we're making our way through this crowd

of judgmental middle schoolers. And we're like, okay, they don't see us. Then it dawns on me that maybe they think we work at Mickey Tavern. Right. they definitely thought we worked at Mickey Tavern as some sort of reenactors.

And then we're just about out of the crowd and some kids like, hey! And I turn around and he goes, pussy. And I'm like, fuck you, kid.

Like, you know what? I would have probably said the same thing. But I had no comeback. All I did was like I was just like petrified. I just kept walking because there's a no-win situation for me to go back and forth with this kid. It's a no-win situation. And if I walk back over there and I'm like, I don't want to snitch on the kid and find his teacher.

And I don't want to go over and be like, you see that? That's my fucking range rover. After I leave Mickey Tavern, I'll be getting in this fucking range rover and you'll be getting back on that bus. Because then I'm an asshole. So you got no recourse but to ignore the 13-year-old kid. So to be clear, you did not say F you. I said nothing. Okay.

I laughed it off. I mean, the kid's just mouthing it at me. I'm backpedaling in my colonial outfit. And the kids just, I've never felt so, I guess it was. How old is this kid? About 13. Okay. So we walk up the hill to the restaurant.

We sit down. it's full of people some tourists some locals because it is a good local spot as well so we sit down to enjoy a fried chicken and whatnot and tom paucette is really he's supposed to be a blacksmith or something because they were out of like colonial regiment outfits he's got some like blacksmith garb on and he's like a fucking colonial method actor yes i mean this dude is he's into the character to the point where if you know me there's nothing i hate more than being embarrassed at a restaurant, like attention being drawn to me, loud talkers, people rude to servers, et cetera. Tom was not rude to anybody, but he was very colonial the entire time.

I mean, it would get quiet. And by the way, people in the restaurant, again, I think they thought that we were working for Mickey Tavern, including you who damn near walked by us. Yes. So as you're sitting down, as you're sitting down, I go, guys, do not break character. We got to be really fucking colonial in here as long as we can. So Makin sits down and Kevin Kevin's got a really strong Southside Chicago accent.

I mean it's it sounds, it's off-putting. I love it. You love it. It can be off-putting. I don't want to say that, Kevin. I know you listen to the pot.

It's not off-putting. It's funny. And Makin sits down and everybody's dead serious like kind of clearing their throat like, you know, like we're saddling up to the bar in colonial times, the ale house. And five seconds in, Kev, trying to sound as colonial as he can.

How's your journey? Hey, how was the journey? How was the journey? I'm like, bro, did you ride your horse past Kamiski to get here? Like, you sound ridiculous. You don't sound colonial at all. You just sound like a drunk guy

in the middle of the day from Chicago. And then we get over that and I got Tom who's still in method actor mode. He's banging his copper cup going, this ale is warm. I'm like, you sound medieval, bro. Colonial people didn't really like, you're a Viking. No matter what you try to do,

whatever period piece you lean Viking. I want to pound some steel. I'm like, all right, bro, joke's over. Like, let's just try to draw as little attention to us as we can. In fact, when we went up to pay at the register, Tom walks up to this woman. You're not at medieval times where the entire thing is a medieval experience and they don't break character. Like the woman at the register, she may be dressed a little bit colonial, but, you know,

she listens to Migos on the way into work. Okay, she's not in on your Somebody calling you Hey Kate Oh this is your lovely white Kate Say hello to the people Hello people We're talking about you I'll call you later

Okay Bye Bye And again, like this woman is not, it's not medieval times. It's, hey, she clocks in at nine o'clock. And after five, she's not interested in colonial times anymore. Tom brings up the receipt and smacks it on the table and goes, I've got 25 chickens and two barrels of apples.

Like the woman was going to understand the joke. And she said, she just awkwardly was like, okay. That'll be $14. And I'm like, God bless these people, man. They had no idea what they were getting into. I was really happy that most people. Nobody recognized me as a football player, which was nice. So none of this is following me.

Of course, then I go and volunteer the information on the pod. And, hey, I was way more touched by that 45-minute lunch than I would have been by a, no, than I would have been by a trip to Vegas. Okay, good. Just FYI. The look on your face, though, when you sat down and realized you didn't have a costume. Well, I was sort of waiting for it to come out. Like, hey, here's $300, man.

Yeah. And we've got one final piece of this story. Oh, what is it? We met some folks in the pub area. Oh, yeah, this was bad. This is not one of my prouder moments. And I met nothing by this. And they asked what exactly about the costumes?

Well, they were like, the costumes are so cool. There's a middle-aged couple. They kept getting pictures with us. just thinking we were just so funny. Yeah. And they said, where'd you get the costume? I go, in the gift shop. And they were like,

you know, in the gift shop, we're not. No, yeah, I go, in the gift shop, what do you, they go, you didn't have it before? I go, no, what do you think we're, what are we like fucking, or civil war reenactors or something? And the woman goes, we are. We are.

She was serious. And they are. We are. A nice couple. Civil War reenactors. Yeah, Civil War reenactors are awesome. I had nothing against it, but like, I have nothing against Civil War reenactments.

Not even if you're on the Confederate side because you're just reenacting it. I know you don't believe in that. You're just reenacting it for the sake of historical context. I'm not judging you. I don't care if you get your willies off, you know, cleaning a musket. for charging of

fucking acting like you have gangrene like a fake amputation do they do amputations at Civil War reenactors like fake ones they must

like ketchup packets and and how did you drink this year out of this one well I didn't stay I was like oh man that's so awesome I've always wanted to meet a Civil War reenactor

I mean can we come to some of your reenactor Do you have a business card? I actually asked the guy if he had a business card as if Civil War reenactors have business cards. Right. They said no. Yeah, the guy was like, nah. And I said, would you all like to come talk about Civil War reenactments on a sports podcast? And they looked at me like I had three heads.

Yeah, and I just put my head down. But they were really nice people. They were. I basically tried to, I was like, oh, do you guys, you guys do like Antietam? I tried to like mention the one battle. Bull Run? Yeah. How about Bull Run?

You know, Antietam was particularly blood. Bloody. A lot of people died. Hundreds of thousands, I believe. Is that true? I don't know, man. About 160,000 people died in Antietam. There was a lot of blood. About.

Anyways, yeah. I meant no offense to Civil War reenactors. In fact, I really want to go be apart 23,000 people. About 160. thousand people died about just felt high it felt high if you were out there that day yeah people were dropping like flies yep musket fire shrapnel i can hear it now hand-to-hand combat bayonets scary um so yeah i i have the utmost respect for civil war reenactors and in fact if you're If you're out there listening and you're a Civil War reenactor,

we'd love to have you on the pod. Yes. At Chalk Network or media. Yeah, DM us. But don't do the thing where you say you're a Civil War reenactor and you're full of shit and then prank call us. Right. And like halfway through, you're like,

you make a dick joke and then laugh and hang up. Actually, that wouldn't be so bad either. You can do that if you like. You can do that if you like. Just commit yourself. Speaking of colonial stuff, for my music section today because I've run into a couple people

that are like hey I really like your musical you know suggestions I've been accumulating some new tracks in my library do you have anything new lately I'll mention that Kate and I walked out of the ceremony to you can't hurry love

and that was well you can because it was kind of a quick wedding actually you don't you don't know how long it's been in the works been in the works for a little while yeah but the wedding itself i mean you didn't do the like you didn't do enough god stuff you really didn't didn't do enough god stuff there was a priest there yeah but he didn't i mean you could tell he was like i would like to do more uh was god uh mentioned at your wedding mine yeah yeah oh yeah he was I should miss that. Hey, mind your own wedding.

It was also very hot that day. There was no excuse for you. You guys were inside air conditioning, early spring. Is it even spring yet? Not officially. We walked out to you can't hurry love by the Supremes because we've known each other for 23 years. Nice.

Yeah. Playing the long game. That's right. That's what you've been doing this whole time. Yeah. Nice. And you did mention Michael Jordan. I did.

That was off the cuff. Yeah. I mean, if you want to be taken behind the scenes of that. fans. I mentioned his area. He said this is our Michael Jordan year. Yeah. And there were some eye rolls by people who did not care to see.

It was a tough crowd at my own wedding. This guy. So on the music thing. I've been listening to classical music a lot lately. And by that I mean the last 24 hours. You know, I've discovered post football while I've had to do more focus work, like including prepping for pods, reading, that sort of thing that I legitimately can't focus with any background noise.

Like an airport, if I have to read a book at an airport, couldn't do it. Could you do that? I find that difficult as well. I find it really difficult. Both my kids talking at the same time, it's overwhelming. Cross talking. Don't like that. Don't like music playing while I'm working because the music has words or classical music.

I was reading about it and it is crushing my productivity. I've gotten more work done the last 24 hours than probably the entire calendar year combined. Thanks to the older folks. For the older folks,

by crushing, he means improving. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Scientists from Northwestern University have found out creative people can't cope with noise. Here I was thinking it was just ADHD. You know, classical music is noise. Yeah, you're right, but it's like classy noise.

Yeah. I don't do that like, I only do high flutin noise. I think this take of classical music improving productivity was first levied in like the 14th century. Yeah, I know, but it's not a take you see a lot on sports radio or podcast these days. So we're just bringing it back up, dusting it off. But they call this leaky sensory gating. Look it up. it's what I believe I have

I've diagnosed myself with having leaky sensory gating what that means is that a person when they're focused on a task they're unable to merely focus on the task itself if there are other competing distractions sounds like ADHD additional sensory stimulation

like someone whistling or chewing gum or the constant stream of dialogue from people nearby having a combo convoy simply drives them mad or at least very unable to focus on their work you know Mozart once said I wish I could flee Vienna in order to have some quiet for my work

also a classical music guy that's right it all ties together he he found himself irritated by the by the street criers selling their wares

and it's unbearable that's how he described it I feel the same way about my kids sometimes I'm trying to prep for a pod so me and Mozart have that in common and now I'm listening to him on Spotify. Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart born January 27th, 1756 in Salzburg, Austria. Oh yeah.

Just a fact guy. Celebrated every day. Every year. Every day. That'd be dumb as fuck to celebrate that every day. March the 11th. Thank God for Mozart being born. I'll give you three albums today, non-classical music.

I'll do, I've been doing this Jerry Garcia thing where I've been following him down the rabbit hole. It's funny, I've always been, do you like the Grateful Dead? Sort of. Okay, and I think that's perfectly acceptable. My entire life, I've kind of been led to believe that you can't like the Dead without being a deadhead. And I have a couple Grateful Dead t-shirts. I'm somewhat of a public figure, so I wear them sometimes. They're comfortable.

I like some of their album art, you know. I like Uncle John's band. Uncle John's band. Yeah, it's a song. Yeah, I'm not that scene. this is what happens when I talk to grateful dead people of whom

I am not of whom you're not and that just goes to show how in deep shit I can get if I have a Grateful Dead t-shirt on and I roll up on a real deadhead you have to have when you talk to a deadhead you have to have one live recording that you can reference

they're like what's your favorite you know mine is always dark star Bickershaw. That's just one song I like and I repeat it every time somebody asked me what my favorite. Now, I do like a number of Grateful Dead songs, but I'm more into Jerry Garcia's side projects. That's what I'm discovering. Check out the song, Blues Encore on him and Howard Wales album, Hootor Roll in 1971. So Wales played the organ on some Grateful Dead albums. Actually, it was just one, American Beauty, I think. And then this album

features a few musicians who later played in Jerry Garcia's side projects. But Wales is like a keyboardist and like a session player. He also worked with James Brown. And from 70 to 72, him and Garcia and Wales played together a lot. And it was like a jazz kind of album. And I dig it.

So check it out. and honestly what I'm finding as I said before is I'm not as into the Grateful Dead as I am Jerry's side projects and I like the dead but I'm not a deadhead and I'm still going to wear the clothes is that okay yes okay good also check out John Prine's tree of forgiveness hell yeah John prime you like John Prine okay so now here we go yeah took 31 episodes yeah we both listened the same something yeah yeah when I get to heaven that's one that's going to stick in your head. I guarantee you listen to that song, which is kind of half an interlude, half a song, half an interlude, half a song. I got one of those, Lake Marie. Are you familiar

with that? No, is John Prime? Yeah, and it's a wacky song. Well, this is a wacky song, but it's a song that's going to get stuck in your head. Also, if you like Chuck Barry, which I've been into the last two years of my life, San Francisco Dues, this is an album. that I've been playing a lot lately. It has my favorite Chuck Berry song on it. Oh, Louisiana. But he doesn't say it like Louisiana. Sounds way cooler.

He calls it Louisiana. Also Bound to Luz is really good. A lot of reverb on this album. It's different than some of his other stuff. I know he's like the father of rock and roll. And some of the Chuck Barry Purist might not like this album. It's funny. I was Googling to see if anybody else actually liked it.

And it doesn't seem like anybody else actually liked the album. I get the same look when I say I like San Francisco Dues. As when I say I love Hard Nose the Highway, that's like a Van Morrison album that everybody shits on, but it's actually very good. So that's my music roundup. We've got the best time of the year coming up,

as we mentioned, March Madness. And this is somebody here who has a college basketball acumen that is rarely matched, if ever exceeded. Dr. Macon Gunner, this is when he gets the DR in front of his name come late February, early March, you start studying, you start plugging things into your little equation.

Can you tell the people what you do before March Madness that makes you so special and weird? Well, what do you think it is? What do you think it's called? Scar. Right. Chris think it's called SCAR. It's called an S curve.

Yeah, S curve. And that's simply where you have the seed lines and you rank the teams. Now this, to be clear, is the first year I've ever done it. Sure, sure. Had a lot going on, you know, MLS flying around, wedding to prep for. And so to soothe my mind, I've been coming up with the field of 68 and adjusting it every few days.

Okay. One of the nerdiest, dorkiest things I've ever done, certainly ever admitted. And yet. And you did this without telling your friends. So you know something's embarrassing and nerdy. But I don't think you should be embarrassed. I think it's actually brilliant. But you never mentioned it to me.

And I did it with pen and paper. I'm like scratching things out. I'm moving teams along the S curve. Yeah. Which you're now familiar with. And I don't know if you have any questions about my S curve. I don't have the S curve on me at the moment. But as always, this week, dubbed Champ Week by ESPN,

is when we have some bid stealers. It's the perfect appetizer, if you will, to the big dance. when you got your Texas's and your Stanford sweating out these small conference tournaments. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Those are your kind of like big time bubble teams. What's your favorite tournament? Ever?

No, I mean like year to year conference tournament outside the ACC. Oh, huh. I've never been asked this question. That's why this show is so highly... I actually, I mean, I really do like these small conferences. tournaments but I might say Big Ten just because it's the last one before the big reveal. It's the one that sticks in my head the most. Do you have one? I don't at all. You still love the

Big East. Great. You still love the Big East tourney. Yep, different now. Yeah. You're a big Ohio Valley conference guy too. Not really a big Ohio Valley guy. I was really excited to see basketball at the Enterprise Center yesterday or I guess it was two days ago I turned on TV. Arch Madness. Arch Madness is what they call it. I love it. Yeah. I love it. I love it. I love it. I love it. I Love it. Valpo fell to, I think it was Bradley. At the time of taping, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven teams have punched their tickets, including Bradley.

Right. Hate to do it. Give me their nicknames. Belmont. Bears. Bruins. Bradley. This is a weird one.

Got on a time thing here. Bradley. Cooper. Braves. East Tennessee State. East Tennessee State. Let's go with the Smoky Mountains. Buccaneers, Liberty.

Flames. One. Utah State. Aggies. Two. Winthrop. Ooh, Winthrop. They're like a bird or something. Are they not? They are.

Okay. Can you give me a hint on the kind of bird? You played for them. Oh, the Eagles. Three. Yale. Bulldogs. Four out of seven, not bad.

Yeah, and I was damn close on one. I feel like you almost should have given me, yeah, that would have been cool. Okay, four and a half. So on your sigmoid curve, because that's what it's called, what do you think something that's going to shock people this year? What's your hottest take on this tournament? Is there a team that you see as unfit for the tourney that people would disagree on or vice versa?

Indiana, I don't think, has done enough. Okay. Now, this is pre-conference tournament. course. But I think they're in at the moment, most would say. I don't have the Hoosiers in. Richmond is on that bubble. I think Richmond should be in. You think? Richmond's had a good year. Okay. But that's always fun. I can give you a full recap after we see the actual bracket. We'll see how I did. Who are the one seeds? The one seeds are Kansas, still Baylor, despite its loss, Gonzaga, and Dayton.

San Diego State falls to the two line. Actually, I had San Diego State on the two line before they lost. Oh, you didn't even need them to lose the Aggies. So who's the first one? And without, you know, just blind here, who's the first one seed to go down? It's a difficult one. Yeah.

Trading difficult questions. I hate to say it. It really pains me to say it. Dayton? Because they are good. And Obie Toppins really good. Oh, it's so fun to watch. but I'll say Dayton.

Is there a player that's created more buzz besides Zion in the past 10 years going in? Ali Faruq Manash, maybe. That's a bit of a joke for you, hoop heads out there. I'm like, yeah. He made his name in the tournament. Going into the tourney, yeah.

I mean, and I don't think Obi's on the Zion level, as I say. Zion for you. He's going to be a pretty fucking good pro. Oh, yeah. You can just tell. You can just tell. Yep.

You can just tell. So yeah, your method as you evaluate the tournament, and that's what we call it. It's tournament. Yeah, it's not tournament. Now, your lovely wife, Meg. She likes to say tournament because she's one of those Jersey people. And you know, I love it. Those are my people now.

Okay, they weren't my people when I met old Megan O'Malley back in the day. I used to, you know, my mom's from Red Bank. I had enough Jersey, you know, like I was lukewarm on Jersey. Now, you know, Philly, Greater Philly, Delco, Jersey, all these tournament sayers, you know, I have a soft spot in my heart for them after those two years in Philly. When they shorten it to Ternie, do they say tourney? Yeah, I think they do, which is just bizarre. Wow.

And, you know, what they do is they. hit you with a litany of terms that start with T-O-U-R and say, well, how do you say that? How do you say that? Right. Tour, for instance. Yeah. Got it. Yep.

That's cool. I didn't know that we're just doing, you know, phonetic matching on everything. Right. And I could have some fun with that. No. Again, tournament, you sound like a fucking colonial. Well, that's offensive to me. Do you sound like somebody that probably,

and I said this the other day, that probably hated Paul Revere. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. I would have said tournament back in those days. Yeah, no, I know. It's T-U-R-N-A mint, like what you put in your mouth.

And if you're coach John Thompson, it's more like than C-2-A tournament. Yeah, it's a tournament. Yeah. Yeah, I'm not into that either. But John Thompson can say whatever the fuck he wants.

That's right. So yeah, we got that squared away. What do you think about the Ivy League on a serious note canceling the conference tournament or tournament? Now, is this a basketball question or a pandemic question? Pandemic. Well, the Ivy League tournament is very new in itself. They used to just crown the champ was the regular season champ. How many years now?

Not many. I'll Google.com, but not many. So do you think that it's unfair to a couple of those teams that might be vying for bids and feel like they've got to shot at running the table there? I mean, you've got to feel pretty fucking, you gotta feel like the rug is swept out from under you. Sure.

Sure, I think I say sure. And yet this conversation just made me say sure. Right. Wow. Sure, I guess it's a bit unfair, but I do like crowning the champ in the regular season. That's the bigger sample size. These tourneys are great.

Um, but, uh, the, the tourneys are magic, bro. That's where you get your weird teams. Get your weird hot teams. Like, for instance, and I, there's zero chance I want UNC to win the AC tournament. But if they were in another conference, I think they're good enough to be in the field of 64 at this point in their season. There are 17 lost team. Okay. And I have them tonight minus four against tech.

So that's basically a kiss of death the way this weekend went for them. But it's lovely. Lovely, lovely, that Tech and Carolina are playing on Tuesday of the ACC turning. Isn't it beautiful? It's dynamite. And I'd love to see UNC smack them. Yeah. Yep.

Just. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, so favorite moments. I went back through and we were kind of talking on the phone last night. We were like, I want to talk about the NCAA tournament. And it's funny because there's such volume and that's why you love it. but there's a ton of stuff that is remarkable

that you're gonna forget over the years because there's 15 better moments. And I was going through moments and shots. Did you go through any of this stuff? You try to rack your brain, some of your favorite moments and shots? I have them in my head pictures. Nice.

You want to start? Sure. 95. Tias Edney going coast to coast. Love that. For UCLA to beat Mizzou in round number two. UCLA goes on to win it all. I particularly remember that tournament.

because Virginia, with not the greatest basketball history, save Ralph Samson, played well in that turn. How far did we get? Lead 8, four seed, beat number one seed Kansas in Kansas City, went on to lose to Corlis Williamson in Arkansas Razorbacks. And they ended up in the final four, yeah? In the final, lost UCLA in the 95. That was one of the most memorable finals for me.

Maybe it was because of the Virginia thing. And our age. Well, yeah, I mean, it was kind of like the birth of passion for me, at least for the NCAA tournament. It was UCLA, Arkansas, Oklahoma State, and the fourth that year. Carolina. Carolina. It was just a cool. It just worked.

They were big-time players. Big country was out there. Corliss. You know, you had the UCLA run with Tyas' shot. And the number 31. coincidentally and Ed O'Bannon. Ed O'Bannon, who took away NCAA football video games from him. That's what you'll find out about Ed O'Bannon now is he's had,

he's been going head to head with the video game industrial complex. Yep. And then also Tias Edney, it was one of those things that I'm like, this is one of those iconic moments you mention it. I bet you any guy our age when you say, hey, what's one of the most memorable shots or sequences? This is going to be in the top three for everybody. And for instance, and we can talk about the Villanova shot a couple years ago,

it's massively more exciting and all that and meaningful. But this shot just sticks in your memory because of the time it happened. If you're 30 something, you remember this. I do remember, and by the way, Ty Zedney just started coaching at UCLA again. Oh, cool. Yeah, I was kind of like, where is he now? And by the way, these guys are old as shit now. Yeah.

Make you feel pretty old. Yep. I think he's almost 50. I want to say he's 47, Taya Sedney. So these guys are all almost 50 years old. The Missouri uniforms were abhorrent. Did you notice that looking back at it?

No, I didn't look back at it again. Head pictures. Go back in your head pictures and look at those Missou Unis. They deserve what they got. I'm seeing, uh, oh boy, the big M in different color.

and Fon. Terrible. Than the Azura. Terrible. Big numbers, yeah, those are rough. Now, game winners, you can't say, and we can go back and forth here,

you can't say Tyas Edney and go down this list of game winners without mentioning the Valpo shot. That's the promotional NCAA shot. That's true. Do you think it deserves to be the promotional shot? Is there a better, more iconic,

you know, shot that, you know, like a championship game shot, like the Nova shot, that's a huge stage. It's two blue bloods. You know, the Valpo shot, it shows that anybody can do anything at any time in March. Yeah, the Leightner shot came in the tournament against Kentucky. Yeah, but it's Duke.

Right. No, I'm agreeing with you. Yeah, yeah. By the way, Leitner looked like Joe Burrow. That's my lukewarm take here. Okay. I went back and looked at that shot too and he really looked a lot like Joe Burrow.

Joe Burrow now is a doppelganger for eight people by our account. Right. Tim Robbins, Christian Leidner. Andy Dufrane. That's Tim Robbins. Oh, I wasn't really listening to you. Yeah, that's shit happens.

Now you know how I feel sometimes. Yeah. Yeah. I feel like we cannot see the forest for the trees. I think that's the second time I said that in this pod. as Virginia fans, I also feel like Virginia gets a fair amount of hate, just to be kind.

We have low possession ball games, but that Kihei Clark, Tamamidi Di Aquite, wasn't a game winner, sent it to overtime in the elite eight. But the Chalmers shot. I mean, we talk about the Chalmers shot like it was a game winner, and 10 years, 12 years later, it was 08, and that was the Derek Rose.

He missed one of two, and Kansas gets the ball back, sinks the three, but it's an overtime forcing shot. I think the Kihei passed to DiKite, the past just as much as, I mean, the pass was like shot out of a cannon. Yep. I was court side for that ballgame

because I was working, not because I have that sort of juice. And there's no cheering on Press Row. The Mamdi shot goes in, and I jump up out of my chair. Chair falls down. Stop. And somebody from the NC2A,

starts walking over and I'm like oh golly and my backpack was on the back of my chair he puts the chair back up puts the backpack back on the chair and gives me a pound and says go get him no way win this ball game no way yeah very cool I thought I was going to get ejected from press row before my club marches on to the final four I was in Vegas and you know to this were like a a ping pong or not a ping pong ball what the what the fuck is the thing that uh pinball that's how my brain feels right now going through this because there's so many great memories but stopping for a minute and talking about that run

because you know we obviously had the UMBC thing historic moment and people won't let that go even after we won a national championship a fucking year later that's fine that's fine we have a national championship it makes the story it makes the story way cooler not for

you know some of the guys that were on that team I mean, I'll always remember, I think it was Isaiah Wilkins right after that loss. They just zoomed in on him. And I was like, you just never get that back. And that's the danger of being a one seat.

I mean, I had watched for decades praying to see in my lifetime a 16-1. Yep. Am I right? Yeah. And to sit there at a wedding that was all Maryland people,

It was all Baltimore people. They showed up to the wedding, and it was a St. Paddy's Day wedding. So first, okay, weddings are just fine, but if it's St. Patty's Day, you're taking away St. Patty's Day. And then you fill the wedding with Baltimore people. They all show up in their brown sweatshirts

with their fucking retrievers. And they're like, hey, big game tomorrow, huh? And it's like, they're joking because they know they're not going to win. They're just joking. Then to sit in that Irish bar about 11 Guinnesses deep in the second half just waiting for us to turn the corner

and we never do it. I have never felt so dejected as a sports fan of my life. That is one moment I'll never forget where I was and then if you give me a snapshot of each round of the next year, and by the way, 16 seed, Gardner Webb. Gardner Webb was beaten us by 10 points?

14. 14 in the first half. I am pacing around the kitchen like a madman. Largest deficit of the season at that point for that team. Insane. And then we play Oklahoma and it's kind of sloppy. The Oregon game was really rough. That was a vintage...

Rock fight. Yeah, I mean, it was just... The little kid with the point guard with the fade that was hitting all the threes, a little white kid. Peyton Pritchard. Yeah, Peyton Pritchard. Fuck that guy. Respectfully, fuck that guy.

because he almost killed us. Amin, the guy who fell down when stared at by Maria Diakite without contact. Brutal. Yeah. I'm in a, okay, so there I'm in a, okay, round one I'm at the house pacing around. Round two, I'm at the bar. I have to get drunk to watch and play Oklahoma because I'm just a mess. We're at Fitzroy.

Shout out to Bad Back Back Backy. Then I go to Vegas. I see Oregon. And I'm thinking to myself, you know, we're probably, this is it for us, this win. And I mean, next round we got to. play Purdue and Carson Edwards and he is hot. In Louisville, which some folks don't know is five minutes away from West Lafayette, Indiana. Some people do not know that.

And I didn't know that before the, his geography is hard. It was 80, 20 Purdue fans and it was loud. And he was banking threes. Oh my gosh. Okay, he scored like 40 on us. We needed all that to happen. Then the next round is Auburn. I'm at the 40-40 club for a bachelor party.

by the way a UVA teammate had his bachelor party during UVA at the final four I'm like bro sorry about the cough yeah that's Chris coughing there's nothing going on with me

this is not accompanied by a fever none of that so you know I'm in Vegas for that I can remember you know the Purdue game. No, Purdue, I'm in Vegas.

I can remember chugging like three airplane bottles alone in the room. I had to leave, I had to leave the book. I was too nervous because the end of that game was nerve-wracking. Get up to the room, celebration. And then, of course, the culmination was Texas Tech. And we were there. We were. That was.

Another big shot. The Andre Hunter. DeAndre Hunter shot, yeah. I mean, like, I feel like people aren't going to talk about that shot. Kyle Guy, huge three. before getting fouled, three free throws against Auburn. Yep. But because Virginia, we're not going to show up on the highlight reel,

the one shining moment montage. That's okay. That's okay. But that Nova UNC shot was perfect. I mean, it was, you know, it's four point seven seconds to go. And I know the Valpo shot's amazing, but the stakes are lower. And the thing about the Valpo shot was the pass. I mean, it was both passes.

Yep. I mean, people forget. There were two passes. Yeah, it's like a hook and ladder. Hook and ladder. But the Nova shot, just to get it down there. And Jenkins, like everything about that from his celebration, go watch him celebrate. I was looking at this last night.

His feet don't leave the ground after he lands. And it's like perfect big guy celebration. He just doesn't move. Jay Wright doesn't move. If you look at him on the sideline, it's like he never doubted it. And you had the big guy celebration. He had Jay, Jaden, the court storm. Like, who called that game?

Do you remember? Wouldn't it have been Nance? Was it Nance? Probably Nance. How do you call something like that? Like, what do you do? Oh, well, you let it breathe. You let it breathe.

Yeah. Which Joe Buck does a great job of. Yeah. Jenkins. And then you got Jasperson, the Northern Iowa shot to beat Texas. Who's? Yep. And then the shot of all shots, right?

NC State. Is that the pass, the lob? What do they call that? The air ball. The air ball. Yeah. Lorenzo Charles. So a few things about that, and if you look back, what year is that?

83 or 83. Yep. Why did every NCAA basketball player in the 80s have the same celebration for a game-winning shot? It was really stiff legs hopping off the ground like six inches with the elbows like extended to the point that they look awkward. and it's like two bald fists in the air, wrists are extended, you know, the short shorts. They just look awkward as fuck. Everybody had that same, go back in the 80s and look at all the

celebrations of iconic shots. Everybody's doing that. Just hopping around. Yeah. I'm a, I'm a fist guy. They weren't fist guys. Well, it was like the weakest. Yeah, that's weird. It's really weak. But go back and look. Um, and then. And everybody looked 40. All the college players look 40. They looked old as fuck in the 80s. Another thing I noticed about that shot was there was a white guy on the wing that was wide open. Buddy took the shot with five seconds to go.

It was like one of the most ill-advised shots I've ever seen. Wow, that gets lost in the shuffle. Five seconds. Yeah. I don't know. So we talked about Taiseedini, Valpo, Nova, you know, Jesperson. You've got Leitner, but everybody talks about the Leightner shots. And there were two Leightner shots.

It wasn't just the iconic one. I think he made one the year before. State was a sixth seed in 83. Virginia currently is six seed in my S curve. I feel good about that. And then here's another one, the Michigan stuff. I went back and looked at the Michigan stuff. Michigan has had some pretty controversial finishes,

and this is where the Carlissimo thing comes up again. PJ Carlissimo was a Seaton Hall coach in 89. that was the game with the bogus foul call Rumeel Robinson Yep Was it a foul I don't I'm gonna have to go back and look at the tape I don't think it was

I can be honest with you But PJ kept his cool I mean it was remarkable When you go back and look at the old copy of that on YouTube or whatever PJ kept his cool to the max I gained a lot of respect for people

DJ in that situation. Just looking at his body language. First off, I had no idea he coached at Seton Hall. Did you know that? Yes. I'm not a basketball historian. And then there was the Chris Weber obvious. Here's the question I would pose.

You okay with that cough? Yeah, I'm fine. It's called it allergy. Hmm. To what? Shag. Shag weed. No, I'm talking about the chairs.

Ragweed, shagweed. No, no, it's not the chairs, bro. We've been in here months. Chris Weber, obviously the timeout happened. But there was the walk, dude. I really think the more I go back and look at that thing, and I know it's in a hot take, there's other people that probably thought this as well,

that he doesn't call that timeout if he hasn't been, if he didn't fluster himself by almost walking, actually walking. I mean, they missed the travel. I completely agree with you. Do you think that his head was fucked up from that.

I'm looking at this from Meal Robinson foul call. You're exactly right. Oh yeah, yeah, not a foul. That's a tough whistle. That's a terrible whistle. It's three seconds left in the game. I mean, Weber says, and most of his teammates say there was an assistant on the sideline saying,

time out, time out, time out, call time out. That's fine, I believe that, but I also don't believe. I think he would have his faculties a lot more about him. If he didn't just, in his head, he's thinking, oh my God, I just walked. Yep. Like I just traveled. Like, and as an athlete, when you do something stupid,

the next 10 seconds, it's like a fog. It's like a fog of war. And I don't think his head was all there when he got in the corner and he called that timeout. I don't care if there was somebody on the sideline. I haven't watched any of the 30 for 30s on it. The walk, the walk is so bad too. It's so bad.

Have you looked at the walk lately? All you ever look at is the timeout. It's a huge step and then about a three foot drag. It's a drag, toe drag. And the Carolina bench goes crazy. Like he's Santonio Holmes, the Super Bowl. Yeah.

I mean, another, another moment for me was the, the Prince Presser, the, the Baylor kid. How does Yale out rebound Baylor?

You go up and grab the ball off the rim when it comes off, and then you grab it with two hands, and you come down with it, and that's considered a rebound. So they got more of those than we did. So they got more of those than we did. Amazing.

Of all the moments on the court, I mean, this is just as cool and it happened off it. And by the way, when I was in Brooklyn and was sitting courtside for Waterboys, and we talked about this on the pod, he plays for the Nets now, or at least he did in the fall.

I don't keep up with the Nets. They fired their coach. Yeah, good coach. Off, golly. Fuck, I don't want to make any jokes. I really wanted to come up to him and be like, yeah, that press conference was awesome, but I don't know if it was one of those things

where he probably gets that a lot and it probably wasn't the best day of his life, so he might not find it as funny as we do. Yeah, I think you would, just a hunch. That is amazing. Ty Jerome, after losing to UMBC, was asked if he was aware that no 16 had ever beaten one. And what he say?

I think he was silent for about four to five seconds. Eight to ten, maybe. Yeah, just to be like, that was the question. And he confirmed that indeed. They were aware of that. Some reporters just want to catch an 18-year-old kid at their worst moment and make it worse. I mean, I get it that you're doing your job,

but just like you walked into that. How does Yale outrebound Baylor? Yeah. What do you mean, how? I mean, unless you're going to, if you're going to list some factor for why you would think it would be unlikely, insert that in the question.

I know Yale is a bunch of white guys, but it happens. The Darwin Ham Dunk. Broke it. Broke it. So cool to me as a child. I don't know what year that was. I remember that too.

Happened against UNC, which made it extra cool. I want to say it was like 97. I want to say it happened in the Commonwealth, but that might be wrong. Well, it certainly happened at some point. Okay, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's undeniable.

He was drafted in 96, so before that. Yeah, before then. And then beyond that, Virginia teams, a lot of cool moments. You know, you had George Mason in 06. That was as wild as any improbable run that I've seen, including Loyola. I mean, Loyola, that run very recently was really cool. But you had George Mason, you had VCU in 2011. They were the playing game.

And then they beat Kansas. Shock is Smart. Final Four. Yep. So there's two Virginia teams there. And then Hampton, 2001, Boise. Game winner. Not a buzzer-beater because Tyos Edney, not Tyos Edney.

Who the fuck? Who the fuck did I say? Tinsley. Jamal Tinsley. Came down the court and missed the layup. I don't know why they pushed the ball. If you go back and look at that, I do not know why up one. They pushed the ball down the court.

36 seconds to go and forced a shot that allowed them to yield to go ahead bucket to Hampton but everybody remembers that highlight some people might not remember who it is that little coach getting picked up

from behind and his legs in the air and... I think his name was Steve. Steve, well he has a name I don't mean to be disrespectful but if you look back at that game I do miss and that was in Boise it was easy to see with the court

I missed the courts that were like they had their own design right. They weren't absurd. absorbed by the corporate NC2A. The sterile setup. And we're having our selection Sunday

watch party that we've negotiated with our lovely wives for this Sunday. Yep. Get used to it. You got to get permission for some things now. Yeah. Here's the other thing.

I kind of want to watch that show by myself. I didn't really have the fortitude to tell you on my wedding night. What are you nervous? I just like it's really a fun thing for me, my favorite thing. I like to kind of be by myself and see it. That's a fucking weird thing to say.

We can talk about it. Yeah, let's talk about it all fair. Yeah, okay. Let's make a run at it. We got to get to the NFL. Let's finish the show with a, with a blitz. Hut, hut.

The Los Angeles Rams have a new logo. Hut, hut. Gosh, I went a little hard on this logo on Twitter. Actually, I did that at your wedding. As you rightfully said, the hat, the logo on the hat is a bad look. And I just want to clear this up because I was, I was tough on the logo. I said that everyone who nodded their heads in approval in the focus group that selected this logo should board a spaceship for the planet that made Matthew McConaughey's friends old.

Do you get the reference? No. Interstellar. Interstellar. Oh wow. Complete guess. I want to downgrade that burn to, they could just load it to the moon

and just stay in a lunar complex forever. It's not the worst logo I've ever seen. It looked bad on that shitty hat that looked like it's just been mangled and stepped on by my three-year-old on these four now. And is it also possible that they're just, This is a float.

They're going to look at the backlash. This can't be, yeah, I like your angle here. I refuse to believe that a team was such a clean uniform. L.A. Rams uniform is as good as any football uniform in sports. And I said this. When I used to put that uniform on, I felt like Jack Youngblood for a second. Okay. And if they changed that jersey, it's an abomination.

that this would be the definition of, you know, fixing it if it's not broken. This is the furthest thing from broken in pro football. The only thing I would change? Well, you got to change the colors. I would match the blues on the helmet and the jerseys. That's it. That's it. Put the jersey from the blue onto the hat.

Yes. Yep. Now they started looking really wacky when they would mix like the Navy, the St. Louis Rams, Unis, which were very bad. NFL, some weird rules there. Weird rules. Just fix it. Yeah.

Bureaucratic Better Business Bureau bullshit Nice But yeah so I'm looking at this thing It looks like detergent It looks like The Chargers This is Macon's logo We decided we would mock up and give it our best shot

So this is if you open your word document And type in the letters LA And then put them into the font American typewriter Size 100 and bold it Size 100. In the Rams blue-ish. That's what you get, and I think it's fire. Why do you think it's fire?

It kind of, I don't know. Did you see it? I saw it, and I did not. Okay, you know how the Dodgers is just an L and an A? You know, it might look better. It might look better on, it looked bad because you took a picture of your computer. That's correct. And that's what people on YouTube are seeing.

Yes, that looks good. I think it's an improvement on their logo right now. Less is more. My theory is... Mind you, it's just the logo. They might not be changing the uniforms. Right. Rams, in general, tough.

Colorado State has struggled. Rhode Island has struggled because you go to the horns and that's a tough thing to do. You can't put that on a sweatshirt. Right. Although it would be tight, now hear me out on this Rams,

on all your hooded sweatshirts. That's what kids are buying these days. Hooded sweatshirts. Yeah. Just put a ram horn on the side of the hoodie. That would be something. so fucking cool. Just do that. Also, pick a logo that doesn't look like it's the chargers. Right. And forget the RAM for the purpose of the logo. Just be LA. Or don't. Or don't.

Okay. Because I, with no graphic design background, just came up with... You could fool me. Look at that. So, on YouTube, that is a RAM mounting the letter A. So... Next to the letter L. I think the letter is L-A. are so cool when they're next to each other. Dodgers and all that shit. Now, people here are going to be, they're going to be roasting me.

Mind you, I didn't even go to school for this. So maybe you're giving me a seven out of ten here. I mean, maybe he's kind of like perched. Is the A, like a mountain? Like he's on a rock surface or something? Yeah, I couldn't do it artistically, but for people who are listening, it's a good ram.

Yeah, for people who are, well, yeah, that wasn't a bad ram. For people who are listening, not seeing this, pop over to YouTube, or try to, I'll try to paint this picture in your mind's eye. Big L, little A resting on the L,

and then an outline of a ram, strictly the shadow of a ram. Like I don't want a detailed ram. I don't want the ram from St. Louis. I really don't want that one either. I want an outline of a ram, and the front leg of a ram and kind of his armpit, so to speak,

you could make an A with that and just kind of just rest that A right on. under in the crease of that ram's arm. Mm-hmm. And I think that would go hard. Now, the RAM could also be perched on the A, not humping the A, as you put it. I said it was mounting it.

Mounding it, humping it. Well, you said before the show that, in so many words that the RAM was fucking the A. Yeah, in different words. Yeah, different words, you don't cuss. You sent me this logo and I responded, all caps, L-M-S-M-E-M-S. F-A-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O.

And then I follow that up with capital L, lowercase, M-A-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O. I take it you don't like the logo. I love it. Good. It's awful, and I love it. It's better than whatever they just put out. If I got somebody with any artistic background, we could mock that fucking thing up, send it to Kevin Demoff. And they'll probably abort mission on the other.

disaster. Again, just the logo, maybe they're not changing anything with the uniforms. I did hear they are changing and I saw some renderings and I think that if your uni's do not look like, you know, Jackie Slater, Jack Youngblood, Eric Dickerson, E. Dick. If your unies don't look like that, you're failing. Cosine. as retired. So I told you. So basically the way we were going to do this because we need a little bit,

we need to separate the topics a little bit better on this podcast. Yep. I said, give us a sound. That was from the trenches. That's the tree. Sounds like at the trenches. Yeah.

It's taking a shit. What do you think the trenches sound like? They don't sound like that. I've been to the trenches. Oh, you were just running around. Silence. Silence. Yeah.

Silent. Marshall Yonda, one of the best football players I've ever seen. Happens to be a guard from a cornfield. So not the most marketable, but was an absolute fixture

in Baltimore. And a guy that, you know, he played 13 years there, 166 starts, eight-time Pro Bowl, two-time first-team all-pro. He played it all up and down the line.

It was funny. When I talked to Rob Ninkovich about the toughest tackles he ever played. And if you talk to a lot of edge rushers, sometimes the most unorthodox that turned out to be the toughest. But when I asked Niko who stood out, he was like, you know what? I struggle with Marshall Yonda. You know, somebody would get hurt. And usually you're sitting there in the meeting like, damn, I'm bummed, somebody got hurt, but I get to see the backup. Then you get this Hall of Fame guard that moves out there. And he He kind of sets like a troll.

He absorbs your punch. He's not a long-arm guy. He's got good placement, and you can't get off him. He's sticky. The thing about him, whether it was a tackle or a guard where he played most of his snaps, he only had four holding penalties the last 94 games. The guy had vice grips,

so he never had to get his hands outside of the frame of your body. You could never get rid of him. he would play through the echo of the whistle. He wouldn't hold you by definition, by the NFL's definition. I will say that taking nothing away from Marshall Yandi, he would hold like anybody else, but he had that grip and the body positioning

to never make it obvious, and he just didn't let go. And he was the guy that he wasn't a dirty player. He played his ass off, and he would play through, like I said, the echo of the whistle. If you played the Ravens, you would always get that last little nudge or shove

around the pile and you turn around and you be like what the fuck like you go to talk shit to this guy and his his facial expression was I'm not going to I'm not going back and forth with you on this uh I'm just doing my job and the next play I'll be pushing you over the pile again and I'm not going to get into a back and forth over it um and that was more annoying than the guy that would talk shit or uh or gloat after a big play he was like a robot like a football machine bread in a cornfield that just was born to be a pest, like a magnificent pest, physical, tough, relentless,

and somebody who I have a great, great deal of respect for, congrats on a great career, Hall of Famer, hopefully first ballot. Coronavirus and the NFL draft. Snap back, ball down, kick up. It's good. That's not it.

It's a little sounder. We're going to have to put another sound. That's a sounder. Uh-huh. Uh, there you go. Coronavirus in the draft. Okay, so there's some speculation mounting, you know, amid the obvious concerns of a pandemic, which is what we're approaching.

I don't know if we've crossed that threshold yet. Is it a pandemic? I think so. By definition. Yeah. Things are starting to get canceled, right? So like Santa Clara just banned gatherings of a thousand people for right now. That's going to affect the shirt.

and the earthquakes. Okay, the Ivy League canceled their tournament. Boston, the St. Paddy's Day Parade is not really a sport unless you consider drinking a sport. That's canceled. South by South Weezy. South by Southwest, which is, you know, it's not a sport, but it's kind of a contest of who can be the most chilling cool. That's right. Nobody's being chill or cool there because it's canceled.

Boston's going to have a marathon soon. marathon soon. Well, they'll have to make a decision on that. The New York City Marathon is still on at this point. Indian Wells is the tennis thing. They called the fifth slam.

I don't know about tennis. I just read about this. Yeah. Yeah, how'd I do? Big time tourney. Big time tourney. Yep. It's only a couple hours away from Vegas.

It just got canceled last minute. I mean, there were players on the ground when they made the call because there were some cases in the region. You know, the draft is scheduled for the 23rd through 25th. You're expecting 600,000 people

to come in and out of Vegas. Okay? And the NFL, Pergadell, is going to continue as planned until they hear otherwise from the who, as they call it, the CDC? CDC. My throat is dry.

You're... It's just fucking allergies, dude. Where's a... Here we go. We're starting a bad rumor here. No, I don't want to drink after you. Matter of fact, Coach Wookie, who has the flu A,

who got tested for coronavirus today, who literally tried to go get tested, shook your hand this weekend with flu A. Yeah, Jones Arena. Friend of the program might have to temporarily suspend him for carrying flu A recklessly. Where did you see him this weekend?

Jones, Jones Arena, Virginia and Louisville. You know, it's funny. Who's beat the cards? Because of the coronavirus, those, I mean, this is fucked up. Oh man, cough is dry, but I got no fever. So, and I feel great, by the way. Good. Probably allergies.

Pleasure being three feet from you. Ragweed is tough this time of year. Yeah. I'm going to be like I'm going to have to go with that like anytime I cough I'm going to have ragweed like just in person like if I'm on the bus or something or are you getting elbows from people no not yet I've gotten elbows in real life not yet not yet I haven't offered any elbows I think we're getting there but long story short with with wookie who you saw this weekend yeah he got cheap tickets to that game because of coronavirus and you guys robbed elbows he had as flu A, FYI. Cheap tickets. He was in the front row.

Evidently they were relatively cheap. I don't know. It was like stealing. It was like getting a flight to Italy right now. Jim was packed. So, WHO, CDC, Duke infection control outreach network. That's,

you know, that's in Roger Goodell's arsenal as far as getting advice on whether or not they should handle the draft. Definitely, they might move it to a studio. I don't know if we'll get the, the whole Venetian vibe with the boats and stuff.

I wouldn't put the guy from Louisville on a boat. Beckton. Maca John. Mackay, Beckton. Yeah. Macaugh-Becton. Wouldn't do it. But I think the fear here is precedent.

So, like, they could easily do this and absorb that loss. Like, this isn't a big deal to them at all. I think the problem is now, if you cancel or alter the draft, what you're saying is that you take it serious. to the point where, and I think they take it seriously, but that this is a course of action they're taking, and then if this thing continues on the course, it's continued on the past couple weeks,

and it gets more serious, or maybe levels out like you've seen in China or some of these other places right now that people are saying like, okay, it's getting a little bit better. Then come fall, when you have to start canceling games, there's a precedent for that. So I don't think they want to put themselves a pickle, so to speak.

They cancel the draft. Then it's going to be what's next. I think it's one of those things, honestly. Right. And it's set for April 23rd, as you said. I mean, we're going to see a lot more stuff in the next six weeks, namely the NCAA tournament. Still time to diagnose. I don't think I feel bad for anybody who's like, I've been planning on going to the draft

in Vegas for six weeks. Yeah. Like I feel worse when you shut season ticket, you know, people out. who can't see their favorite team play week one. And big picture, let's just try to control this literal pandemic. Yes. We're going to need to make a sacrifice. We are.

And the draft might be one, but I don't think the NFL wants to make that sacrifice just yet because they're really backing themselves in the corner as far as what they have to do the rest of the fall. So we're not the rest of the fall, when the fall comes over the summer. Stay tuned. We'll be back with you at the very least next week

for another green light pod. At that point, we will have our brackets. Stay tuned for more content late in the week, though, as well. Sorry for Chris's coughing. We appreciate your empathy on that front. Yeah, please don't tell anybody I have that. Just don't do that. It's ragweed.

It's ragweed. It happens every year to me. All right, y'all take care.