Green Light with Chris Long - Ep. 32 - Joe Buck talks NFL Play-by-Play. Weirdest Athlete Jerseys Ranked.

Episode Date: March 19, 2020

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Greenlight Pod. I'm your host, Chris Long. Hope everybody's doing all right out there. We've got Joe Buck here today with me and Making Gunner. Joe Buck is going to talk about his experience as a play-by-play guy, some of his favorite calls, and one he almost screwed up. We're also going to talk about our favorite play-by-play stuff. Our favorite calls, we're going to talk about in lieu of Tom Brady's trip down south to Tampa.
Starting point is 00:00:25 the weirdest athlete jersey combinations. Usually these are coming towards the end, the twilight of our favorite athletes' careers. We're going to rank those. And then we're also going to get to mailbag of sorts. I ask people to share their drunkest or most off-the-wall sports take on our new hotline. So let's fire that thing up.
Starting point is 00:01:10 If I get corona, I get corona. At the end of the day, I'm not going to let it stop me from partying. You know, I've been waiting. We've been waiting for Miami Spring Break for a while, two months we've had the strip plan two three months so we're not even having a good time whatever happens happens like it's really messing up with my spring break what is there to do here other than go to the bars or the beach and they're closing all of it it's
Starting point is 00:01:31 really messing i think they're blowing it way out of proportion i think it's doing way too much doing us bad we need a refund this virus ain't that serious it's serious it's more serious things out there like hunger and poverty we need to address that yeah i mean we plan this a long time ago and it was kind of up in the air if we still go, but like we're here. I just turned 21 this year, so I'm here to party, so it's kind of disappointing. But we're just making the most of it. We met these other people in our little Airbnb spot, so we're just hanging out with them and trying to get drunk before everything closes. I mean, it sucks, but we're going to make the best of it. We're enjoying ourselves. It sucks, and I'm from New Orleans, so this really sucks. However,
Starting point is 00:02:12 we're going to enjoy ourselves. We haven't day parties all day. It's my birthday, St. Patrick's Day. Turn it. We're just trying to roll with the boy. We're just living for the moment. We're just going for, we're just going to do what happens, when it happens. When stuff closes, we're going to do it when it closes. But besides that, we're just trying to have the best chip we can.
Starting point is 00:02:34 There's a lot that I want to happen to those kids. I'm not going to say I want them to get the pandemic. Okay. I can draw a straight line from coronavirus to hunger and poverty. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. know if these folks really want to have a conversation about it. I don't know that there were many intellectuals in that group. Now, you stick a microphone in my face when I'm drunk.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I might slur my words, but I won't say anything that utterly fucking stupid. I hope that they all go broke. I hope that they age terribly. It looks like some of them are off to a good start. These people were born in the early 2000s. Gen Z. Gen Z. Gen Z, you've got one test.
Starting point is 00:03:16 You're failing it. I am going to hang this over your head as I live long and in prosperity, hopefully God willing. I'm going to hang this over your head for the next 50 years. And I'm not going to let you get away with it. You're essentially the boomers, but just younger. Like boomers have done a lot of bad shit. They've let a lot of bad things happen. They also did some good things.
Starting point is 00:03:41 So far, the scorecard is all bad for you guys due to spring break 2020. I hope that you guys get chlamydia. Wow. At a high rate. Holy smokes. On spring break. Wow. I hope that the elevator door at your cheap hotel closes on your hand.
Starting point is 00:04:02 And it doesn't move, but like it's really inconvenient. And you're stuck in the elevator and you're drunk and your friends are puking on you. I hope that something happens to your elevator. Not bad enough that you get hurt. and again the chlamydia thing I think you can clear that up relatively easily I'm sure they've had it before a lot of the people in that video
Starting point is 00:04:22 I hope you crash your scooters your bird scooters I hope that they get wobbly and you crash them into the street on Ocean Boulevard which is empty because nobody who's fucking got enough money
Starting point is 00:04:40 to own a car is actually out in the street it's just you broke spring breakers down there because you spent $200 on a hotel room for five nights. Net is how much you're spending. You can't recoup that money. It's your parents' money. You don't have to go on spring break.
Starting point is 00:04:57 I hope that you fall and impale yourself with a selfie stick. But not mortally wounded. I hope it's just annoying and you get like tetanus. To be fair, the one woman is from New Orleans. I don't give a shit. As she said, it really sucks for her. Yeah, because if you hadn't noticed, 38% of people tested yesterday in the state of Louisiana,
Starting point is 00:05:22 which is if you're not familiar with that, that's the state that you live in, tested positive for coronavirus. I hope that you people get home safely and don't infect anybody. I don't really wish anything ill on you guys, but you could imagine what it would be like if I did. I hope that at the very least you get back grades whenever you get back, when you go back to school.
Starting point is 00:05:47 I think that's safe to say. And I don't think I have to hope or will that to happen. I think judging by the brilliance of some of the people on that video, it's going to happen. Yeah. Welcome to episode 32. The person's sniffling during this episode will be Chris. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I am not.
Starting point is 00:06:05 But you're fine. You're just always congested. I'm pretty much perpetually congested. You got ragweed. Got ragweed. Got ragweed. Got Maui Wawi, got Shark. You hadn't heard of that one.
Starting point is 00:06:21 I haven't heard of any. I got all the things. I got all the context. I got all the things. You're one of the first human beings I've seen in the last week outside of my lovely family. Yeah. It's nice to get outside and yet I think we're doing
Starting point is 00:06:36 the prudent thing by quarantining. Yeah, we haven't really touched. No, no. I can attest to that. But this isn't spring break. We're actually making content. I mean, this isn't some useless, selfish exercise. The people need content.
Starting point is 00:06:55 We're gonna give it to you. This is episode 32. While you're staying home, hopefully. Yeah, for the most part. Listening to this on your walk around the block. Yeah, yeah. Get a little fresh air if you can, but limit your interaction.
Starting point is 00:07:10 Yeah. I'd hate to wish terrible things on you like I just did to those useless 19 year olds. Okay, boomer, okay, boomer. Future leaders of, well. Luckily, I won't have to worry about that. I'll be long gone, hopefully, if any of those people by the, I mean, imagine,
Starting point is 00:07:35 imagine trying to run for president. I guess the bar is pretty fucking low right now, but imagine being, Like, you could become a genius by way of a miracle. Your IQ could skyrocket in the next 10 years. Maybe they have a drug like a homeboy from so, Brad Cooper took in Limitless, and you could make, God could make those kids smart.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Or modern medicine could make those kids smart. You can't take that video away. Right. Just like probably if I ever wanted to run for president, and me wishing Clemity on 19-year-olds might. It'd be on the list. It'd be pretty far down the list, though. Yeah, there's other things.
Starting point is 00:08:24 Yeah. Did you, do you know what a sleep stream is? Nah. Folks that we just showed on TikTok, which is a thing, they go to sleep with their mobile devices on, and people watch them sleep and basically hang out in the chat room watching the person's sleep. I read about this in the New York Times this morning while having breakfast.
Starting point is 00:08:51 And I was... I'm dumbfounded. As I am now, speechless. Were you talking? Not much or well. A sleep stream. Strangers are watching you sleep and talking. These people, these young people, are officially aliens, okay?
Starting point is 00:09:11 They're officially aliens. And I know it wasn't in vogue to dislike young people because generally young people's political ideals line up relatively well with the people calling the shots on the internet, what's taboo, what's not. But young people, you have just, you've just crossed the line. You have absolutely crossed the line.
Starting point is 00:09:37 You had one fucking job. Stay at home and we can shoot for spring break 2021. 2021 spring break it's going to be there let me let me give you a piece of advice every bar night that I ever thought that it would be a travesty if I missed it turned out it wasn't that big a deal like I'm still doing that at 34 okay my friends are like hey we're going out to watch basketball tonight like hey you know you got to talk to your lovely wife Meg yeah make it's got to talk to his lovely wife Kate that's right never gets old um you have to fight for it a little bit, okay?
Starting point is 00:10:16 You got to fight for your right to party. And I understand that sometimes you're looking and you're saying, ah, if I don't do this spring break, I'll never get another one. Well, that might be true for some of you morons in that video because, you know, once your parents cut you off, presumably they'll probably pay for you until you're 30 and then completely give up on you. I'm just telling you that at 19, I said a lot of dumb shit.
Starting point is 00:10:41 There's still time to come back from this. but step one would be to stop doing what you're doing and stop ruining the world. I'm on board. Greenlight pod, number 32. Welcome. Yeah, hey, thank you. You want to go through our number 32s?
Starting point is 00:11:02 I'd be happy to. It's an old custom. I've been going first a lot. Yeah, you have. You're also wearing my number 30, which I think is a sign of respect, which I really appreciate. Yeah, I had this shirt long before.
Starting point is 00:11:13 you picked Sheed. Yeah. And I noticed you didn't pick Sheed. No, I didn't. We do this in secret. I like to keep things fair. And I didn't think it would be fair if I picked a guy that I have a shirt of. I would have just worn the shirt and dominated the podcast.
Starting point is 00:11:27 Right. Okay. Bill Walton. Oh, nice. Bill Walton. Bill Walton is my number 32. There's Bill Walton looking like a human eighth of Maui-Wawi. That's the second Maui-Wawi reference.
Starting point is 00:11:40 The personification of the Dancest Buzz. as the kids say. And that's him with his shirt off as he's matriculated into what young people know him as the guy shouting on Pac-12 games. Yeah, he's doing a real job there. With Pash. So I think he's remarkable at what he does
Starting point is 00:12:03 because there's so many college basketball games. Of course, for those of you don't know, Bill Walton's a million-time champion, not just at UCLA, also a finals MVP. multiple time champion, couple time all-star in the NBA. Hell of a personality.
Starting point is 00:12:22 Legendary Grateful Dead fan. They call him Grateful Red. He's known as the tallest deadhead. If I read this correctly, he actually traveled with the band to play in Egypt in front of the pyramids in 78 and actually got on stage a little bit. He also likes the Allman Brothers,
Starting point is 00:12:40 a number of groups he's really interested. to but the thing I love that he does most and I could give a shit less about his basketball, but I guess that's what allows him to do what he does now is his, his color commentary. It's zany. It's off the wall. There's moments. You know, I watched a game before shit hit the fan here and I heard him say conference of champions probably 36 times during the broadcast. There's quirky things like that. You know, he'll do callbacks to like Michelangelo. He thanked Michelangelo on his death date, 1561 or whatever it was. And Pash is sitting there like Pash has the hardest job in sports.
Starting point is 00:13:24 I mean, he's like, how do I relate or play ping pong with you and keep the ball in the air? And you're talking about Michelangelo. We got to go to a TV timeout. I think it's turned. I think he struggled with it legitimately at first. And now it's just stay out of his way, mention time and score occasionally, and then get to break. I read a passion interview where he was like, on game day, Bill is my enemy.
Starting point is 00:13:48 He views me as his enemy. And it's hilarious when you watch a game and listen to them and they're great together because you're really not sure if at any point Pash will actually begin disliking Bill. And I think, you know, it's got to be annoying to be Pash because the very act of doing games with Bill
Starting point is 00:14:10 makes you elite. but whenever he's interviewed, the first question is, what about Bill Walton? You know? You wonder if he ever wants to go out on his own and see what's on the other side of it. But we might know Dave Pash's name right now
Starting point is 00:14:26 because of Bill Walton. We might, but I also don't think, I also don't think, you're right, that's a great point, but I also don't think that a lot of people could do what Bill's been able to do. Yeah. And that's keep the ball in the air
Starting point is 00:14:40 with the guy like, like, Dave, Bill. Dave, sorry, Dave. Bill Walton. Keep the ball in the air with a guy like Bill. You know, there's him eating a candle on air. Did you ever see that? No.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Google him eating a cupcake hole with a lit candle. Oh. You know, he took his shirt off on air. He's done baseball wearing tie-dye. Just him doing baseball could save baseball. 80 game season might save baseball too 80 game season might save baseball and actually that's something we could ask Joe Buck about we've got Joe Buck coming on in a bit he's attended over 850 dead shows I mean I could go on and on about this guy I love him to death he is as people saying they
Starting point is 00:15:30 throw this around a lot a national treasure agreed great pick my pick is a guy who I think is synonymous with number 32. It's Magic Johnson. Born chalk. Yeah, it is. It is. But so was 23 with MJ. Magic was born August 14th, 1959 in Lansing, Michigan, 10 to Michigan State.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Six foot, how tall do you think Magic Johnson is? Six foot eight. Six foot nine, is what he was listed at, so you're probably right. 215 pounds. Nine time. All in Michigan. NBA first team, five-time NBA champion, three-time MVP. His highlights are nuts.
Starting point is 00:16:18 Yeah. Internet, Magic Johnson, highlights. He's a, dare I say, virtuoso out there, Chris. Yeah, it's like the balls attached to his hand. Yeah. And we kind of missed him because he retired for the first time in 91, so it wasn't quite our wheelhouse. We remember him playing, but it wasn't.
Starting point is 00:16:37 Wait, did he retire the first time? of the virus? Yeah. Now, I remember that. I mean, if it was 91, I mean, I faintly remember it. And in my kid brain, I'm like, geez, this guy's sick. Like, so sick is this thing so bad that you can't play basketball? But yeah, we did miss them.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Yeah. By the way, I saw this week on Twitter somebody saying, can you just imagine being a 98 baby going through all the things we've gone through? And the first thing they mentioned is 9-11 in the year 2001. when they were three? Yeah, they didn't go through that. And everybody in the comments is like, yo, born in 96 over here,
Starting point is 00:17:15 don't remember that. Don't remember it at all. Yeah. I describe Y2K to people and we're in a bit of a Y2K level hysteria and more and more founded, it turns out. But yeah, you didn't go through that. Keep the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:17:31 Reed, do you have a second picture queued up? Oh yeah, that's a good one. I look like a wax figure here. This is, we all made some bad filter decisions in our day on IG. So good. But this is at Madison Square Garden, a picture of Magic and me.
Starting point is 00:17:44 This was Sweet 16 in the year 2015. 2015. I mean, that's what sounds like. And what's funny to me is, and I do this a lot, if I'm drinking, I don't remember who I was with
Starting point is 00:17:56 unless there was a really personal setting. There were a few of us there. I was going to say, hey, I met Magic that one time. Yeah. Yeah. 2014.
Starting point is 00:18:06 I shouldn't forget. That was a heck of a, trip though. Shouldn't forget things like that. That was your birthday. There was a terrible, terrible ending. That's the one game in the last 12, 13 years that I haven't worked. I attended as a fan.
Starting point is 00:18:21 So you've got to work them all now. Yeah. Yeah. So Magic went to, he was going bathroom and I was going bathroom. And I'm like, you can't ask for a picture. Not in the bathroom. No. So he wraps up.
Starting point is 00:18:36 I wrapped up 30 seconds. later couldn't find them like damn well missed my chance but at least i didn't ask magic johnson for a picture in the stall right and then he come we i don't know the the bowels of msg when you got the good seats there are some as uh spike lee would know um there are lots of different there's a lot of different entrances and we meet back up a couple minutes later i'm like magic magic and that's a selfie and magic as you saw is looking nowhere near my telephone air horn went off probably Probably. Yeah, I think it did.
Starting point is 00:19:11 Yep. Just like that. That's all it was. Had nothing to do with you. No, Brian O'Connell had a rough game as an official. That game. I'll always remember you screaming. We had pretty good seats, and you are just berating this cat.
Starting point is 00:19:26 Yeah, well. To be fair, he blew the game. He did. Tevin Jones got foul. So my 32 is Magic Johnson. Kevin Jones. What a callback. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Magic's. Where's Tevin Jones from? Tevin Jones is from North Carolina. High Point, I believe. Yeah, cool. Keep up with him on the social. Shout out to Tevon Jones.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Hey, Tev. Magic's wife, her name is Cookie. Yeah. Which is cool. And he's my 32. Yeah, he's great. The iconic 32. So, great.
Starting point is 00:20:01 And, you know, personal friend, friend of the program. That's right. And we tend to mention a couple other 32s. Herb Williams, I thought would be good for you. You don't meet a lot of herbs anymore. Although I want to shout out our pastor, who I hope is not listening to the pod up in Philly.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Herb Lusk, great dude. God, I just shouted him out, which is bad because now people are going to say, hey, Chris was listening, was shouting you out on the pod, and then they're going to see the beginning of the, Herb's going to see the beginning. Herb, I love you.
Starting point is 00:20:37 I don't love those 19 year olds. That's wrong what they're doing. Marcus Allen, another 32. Yeah. When we were kids, Big Howie's phone was lying out at some point. Yeah. And so you look through the contacts. Big Howie's not watching either.
Starting point is 00:20:56 You guys are doing a good job. Good pod. I might have come across Marcus Allen's phone number at some point. Yeah. Gave him a ring one time, went to voicemail. the best, the most kind. Wait, you took Marcus Allen's number off my dad's phone and then called him? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I was like 15. Yeah. Did you leave my voicemail? No. I probably would have, but it was the kindest recording I've ever heard. I mean, just hoping we had the best days and God blessing us. And it was like, wow, Marcus Allen's a great guy. I'm not going to leave him prank voicemail.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Don't, what do they call it when you ring, ding dong ditch. Ring and run. Now, we did used to, we did our fair share of high school prank, and we can get in that in another time. We used to toilet paper stuff. Yeah. We used to egg houses, and there's still some residents here in Seville, Virginia. Is this something you want to leave off the pod?
Starting point is 00:21:54 Maybe. Okay. So, yeah, let's see what we got on the docket day. We have too much NFL news. I'm bored with it. Cowboy Reed, we got Chris Harris going to the Chargers. We got, if you hadn't heard about Tom Brady, welcome from under the rock you've been living under.
Starting point is 00:22:11 We're going to get to that in a little bit when we talk about Strangess Uniform combinations. Oh yeah, Fowler to the Falcons. Nice pickup. I like him. I think it's three years, 48 Mill. He did incorrectly tweet the Eagles emoji. He said 56 for the birds with an eagle emoji.
Starting point is 00:22:30 And I'm like, that's you. That's me, dude. What the fuck? Who else got, who else got moved? Oh yeah, Whitworth got read up in LA. He's going to keep making money until he's like 43. Foles to the Bears. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:49 I heard it's cold in Chicago. Is it cold enough to shrink that piece? So my question is, where's James going? I'm going to avoid that topic. James is on the merry-go-round right now. He's in the game of musical chairs. He throws for a million yards and he throws TDs and he just got LASIC.
Starting point is 00:23:08 I'm telling you, I would love to see him in Vegas. Yeah. Love to see James Winston in Vegas with John Gruden is must-see TV. You want to sell tickets at the new stadium? James Winston would be an Al-Davis guy. Al-Davis would salivate.
Starting point is 00:23:26 Al-Davis is about to pop up out of his grave and go right to Vegas and make sure that they, signed James Winston. Honestly, reuniting him and Marriota, same draft class, see what happens. I mean, I think of Marriota is more of a backup option, you know, backup plus money. I think if you're the Raiders, though, the smart play,
Starting point is 00:23:48 if it's not James, it's to draft somebody. You already know that you don't like Derek Carr, move him. And then, you know, with Indy out of the quarterback sweepstakes, although they picked behind the Raiders. You know, there's four quarterbacks in the first round. I could see Herbert being another like Oakland type guy, a Gruden type guy. If you believe Herbert or Love is going to fall,
Starting point is 00:24:13 then you've got a capable backup to start the season out to groom a player for half a year, whatever it takes. And the window has just opened for your team. You're acquiring a lot of young talent. I think Mayak does a great job there. And just like that, we've done NFL talk. Yeah, we've done it. Let's get Joe Buck on the line.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Okay. Okay, welcome into the pod. This is a great guest. I just pulled this guest, frankly, I pulled this guest out of my ass about noon today. And here we are talking to our good friend, Joe Buck. It's just a really, it's the most graphic introduction I've ever had. You've been on part of my take, yeah? Yeah, I have.
Starting point is 00:24:53 But neither one of those two guys actually said that I came out of their ass. So here we are. Well, you're very literal. And you remember making, of course, we all spent a little bit of time after Super Bowl. What Super Bowl? It was the Patriots Falcons Super Bowl 28 to 3 at the hotel bar. Yeah, it was a good night.
Starting point is 00:25:17 It was a good night for all. We had just finished the first overtime Super Bowl telecast, and you had a ring. And your dad was happy, and you were happier. It was a nice night. And Joe and I got to. speak about my illustrious spotting career, as you're well aware of Chris, and stern and a few. As many topics as you can fit in about 90 seconds, Joe and I covered.
Starting point is 00:25:43 You got them all in. It was lovely. Yeah. It was like speed dating. Joe, how important is a spotter in the booth? Got to be really important, huh? You know, yeah, they are. I would say that in order of importance, at least with,
Starting point is 00:26:00 the people that stand around me in a broadcast booth. And I don't think people really understand how many people it takes to kind of present that whole broadcast. But obviously, Troy is number one, but number two to me is my stat guy. And I look to him for everything. So I have a stat guy, Ed Sveeta, who's from Philly, a diehard Eagles fan. We have to put up with him every weekend. And he's become one of my best friends. On a grease board, he will say, you know, something as simple as a punt that a guy hits at the 48-yard line, gets caught at the 23, and the guy returns at, you know, whatever it is, 18 yards. I'll get on the grease board, you know, the length of the punt on top, a line, the length of the return on the bottom, and I go to him for everything.
Starting point is 00:26:47 And he's also a guy that I think thinks analytically and kind of anecdotally for me. It's not just raw numbers. There's sometimes it's timeouts in the conversation. you know, how a team may use them. And even some history. Yeah. Different dose of trends that guys have had coming into the game and how they've either, you know, furthered it or, you know, some big run for some player or some team ended that day.
Starting point is 00:27:18 Yeah, it's one thing to have the stats is another to put them in context. I got our, you know who I work with some is our boy Burger. Shout out to Mike Berger from the Fox Empire. Yeah, those guys are invaluable. And they're able, the fun thing is, and it's fun and difficult, I think, is to be right in the middle of it. That's the fun of it for me. But when I'm home and I'm watching a game on TV, sometimes I see a lot more than I do when I'm actually in the booth. Or I'm thinking along different lines and I can kind of, you can catch your breath and be removed from having to come up with the exact words in the moment.
Starting point is 00:27:57 and you can kind of assess the situation better. And that's what those people do in the boots. So you ask me about the spotter. A great spotter is golden, and a spotter is somebody who points to on a board, who made the catch, who made the tackle, or whatever just happened down on the field. A bad spotter can crush you because eventually it's coming out of your mouth.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And if they're giving you bad info and a replay shows that it was not Chris Long, who got the sack, it was somebody else, then you're the one that looks. like the moron because you said it. So you have to really have somebody there that you trust. And that's, you know, we found, I think, the best booth along those lines that there is in the NFL. I can't imagine a booth having better info people in it than what we have.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Well, you've got to ride the wave of glory with the spotter, and then you've got to ride the wave of despair when you're fed the incorrect name. Make, have you ever fed anybody anything incorrect? My first year was 2008. We had a pick six against us, University of Richmond. They had... Not good either, by the way. I was there. And I don't think they had shoulder or sleeve numbers. So I was trying to find the guys back. And I think I located a 15 when there was a 16 and the last 12 years or so without a mistake. I'm the stack guy too. Yeah, dual threat by the way, Joe. my plate. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Yeah. My question for Joe, how many voices potentially have access to your earpiece at a given time when you are broadcasting? I mean, total. I would say, you know, we've got, now we've got two producers. We've got a director, so that's three. We've got Steve Horn, who Chris knows really well. Yeah, that's a editorial guy that is also an anecdotal thinker and somebody that puts
Starting point is 00:29:47 different situations in the context for me. He can get into my head set. Also, Joe, I hate to interrupt, but I got to do it. Joe, Steve, myself, that was among the group of people at our first dinner in St. Louis in 2008 when you guys took me a dinner. If I'm remembering correctly. Yeah, God, that's a long time ago. And thank God you pass through here because I will tell you that Chris's mark on St. Louis remains to this day. And, you know, we haven't had a lot of athletes who have come through this town, baseball, football, hockey, whatever, that at least with the big three sports that we have or have had, obviously the NBA way back when an ABA that have made that kind of impact that Chris has. He's just a big hearted guy that I think, ultimately, Chris, I know you well enough to know that you just want to help the world and help people on. around you, and it's easy to see. You're easy to rally around. And it's somebody that started to
Starting point is 00:30:52 climb Kilimanjaro about seven years ago the day that you got down from Kilimanjaro and ran into you in the hotel bar. And you told me and my daughter, it was the hardest physical thing you had ever done in your life. And my daughter, who was 16 at the time, and I was, whatever it was, who's now an actress. Natty, shout out to Natty. She's an actress. Yeah, Natty Buck. We looked at each other like if Chris Long, who's got muscles and his earlobes, had a tough time getting up this thing, we have no chance. You killed it, though. You killed it.
Starting point is 00:31:25 And by the way, I got up there. Since you just gave me the treatment on the St. Louis thing, I want to indirectly credit you with delivering clean water to over 300,000 people. Because had I not run into you and Doug Pitt and John Bonjourno, in that bar in Tanzania, I always tell this story. When I heard somebody say my name in a bar in East Africa, I thought I was fucking hallucinating. And it was you.
Starting point is 00:31:54 And I should have known your voice. I mean, that was definitely, you know, like a twist of fate or some sort of divine intervention that came down because what's come out of that? I mean, that's why we were there. And Doug had done it multiple times. And John Bonjourno had done it multiple times. and now they have sense with you
Starting point is 00:32:14 and the awareness that you've brought through water boys and everything else. There was some other force at work there that makes sure we walked into that bar at that time because you were coming and going. We had just gotten there and only because we were starving did we go down there and I run into somebody that I know well in Tanzania in a hotel bar. I think that just means we're alcoholics. well I am yeah I I don't want to I don't want to make light of that but I think I am kind of functioning I'm definitely on so how many how many people in in your ear that's what
Starting point is 00:32:53 making before I took us down this side street here my apologies I would say like I would say who can talk to me probably four but who do talk to me I you know Steve horn picks his spots our producer picks his spots. I think most people think that somebody's just feeding you information. There's not time for that. There's not time for something to happen on the field and then somebody to think of something and then feed it to the guy doing the broadcast.
Starting point is 00:33:23 I mean, we're kind of on our own. They can help. They'll tell you where we're going, like with a graphic coming up or the producer will tell me how many more seconds we have at the end of a segment before we go to a commercial break or he's counting me backward while I'm talking, and I have to be finished with my thought before he hits one or zero.
Starting point is 00:33:43 But for the most part, we're on our own. And I don't know that people get all that, but I've had musical Hall of Famers in the booth. I've had actors in the booth. I've had medical professionals that have put the headset on and listen to all that traffic going in and out of my head. And just at the end of the game, like how in the hell? do you keep your train of thought
Starting point is 00:34:07 and I guess it's just because I've done it so long that it feels normal to me. Do you have a fear? Do you have like a one fear? Because me, my fear is always in making know this, I struggle with people's names. Like basic pronunciation of basic two-syllable names. We're not talking about Al-Farachamino of the NBA. We're talking about
Starting point is 00:34:29 like Johnson and Johnston. I'm going to struggle with stuff like that. Do you have one fear that you're like that gives you pause before you speak in the booth? Yeah, I mean, is it one fear? No. Is it just fear of the mistake? I think that's kind of what social media has brought into my world and our world.
Starting point is 00:34:53 I think it's made everybody a lot less authentic, a lot less willing to take a risk, a lot less willing to show their real personality instead of, you know, what's going on now. which, and I'm a victim of it and I'm guilty of it myself, just kind of staying in the middle lane. Because you know, once you step out of that middle lane, you're going to get slammed on social media, no matter what you do, good or bad, funny or dumb, whatever it might be, I think it's, I look back at old tapes of mine or DVDs. I just saw somebody sent me a clip of the game we did.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I don't even know what year it was, maybe 2000, 2001, somewhere in there where we went back. throughout the history of television and baseball and went decade by decade and kind of added to the presentation of the broadcast and how developments, technological developments, made the broadcast look better over time. You went from like a 50s broadcast to a 60s broadcast to a 70s broadcast, graphics and everything else. It was a great idea. And I did a live commercial where I'm actually wiping shaving cream on my face in the booth because they used to do the commercials live in-game, you know, just do them right there. Like Barbasol right there.
Starting point is 00:36:11 No, that's what it was. And it was the guy, you know, drinking a beer. It was the guy putting, you know, maybe even lighting up a cigarette. That wasn't. They were doing it on the field, too. They were doing it in the locker room, too. No, I know. And so now I watch that.
Starting point is 00:36:24 And I go, man, would I do that now? Would we even try that in 2020? I don't know. I feel like it's kind of taken a little. bit of the creative everybody's scared to kind of step off into the deep end and and that's that's a real shame and i'm not just talking about me i'm talking about just anybody yeah i mean we all we all we all read the room like i read the like listen now being a part of the media if you tweet in general you everybody there's very few people that when a topic comes up you don't at least look at what
Starting point is 00:36:59 people are saying that might not alter you know the way you break it down on your timeline uh but everybody reads the room. And now with takes and being in the media, like, I'm not just going to let a take fly unless I'm really passionate about it. I'm going to educate myself and some of that that gets through your filtering system is other people's opinions. And it's impossible not to reconcile with that. According to social media, here's an important detail about you that I learned. You hate the Philadelphia Eagles. I know. And the Phillies and the Giants and the Mets and the Yankees. Yeah, which team do you hate the most? Which team does the world say,
Starting point is 00:37:35 you hate the most, by the way? Well, it just depends on who's on that night. I mean, it depends on who I'm doing. You know, I reconcile it this way. There are a lot of baseball fans that cross over to football fans. There are a billion Eagle fans that are also Philly fans. And in baseball, it's different than any other sport. Baseball, you're listening to your hometown guys who have the same rooting interest as you,
Starting point is 00:38:00 even the hometown directors and the shots that they show. You don't really care. If I'm in Singh Lewis watching the Cardinals, I don't really care what's going on with the Mets in their bullpen. And God forbid, if a Mets guy hits a home run, as the Cardinal announcer, I just act like my dog got shot. Well, when I show up in the postseason and I have to get excited for both sides, you know, countless times, thousands of times throughout seven games, hometown fans are watching that going, why in the hell? is this guy screaming and yelling when this team just hit a home run against my team? Right. What's going on?
Starting point is 00:38:41 And I think it just hits people's ear a weird way because they're just not used to it. So because I've done it, I've done the last 20 World Series 22 total. I'm the only guy that's ever done a World Series on national TV in the social media era. Well, I will say. And I think, sorry. I just think that that's built its own, you know, it's just kind of, it's going to come with a territory no matter if it's me or if it's John Smith doing it. The fan that just lost is going to hate the guy on national TV that just screamed and yelled for the other team. Well, I will say this.
Starting point is 00:39:20 If it makes you feel any better, we're about to rank or, and you are a decorated cat here, okay? Like, I've known you forever as my friend, okay, because you work with my pops. on you for years now. But as I've gotten older, I've realized, hey, my buddy Joe has been doing a lot of big games for a long time. Also, in my opinion, and in most people's opinions, very good at it. And I love that you let things breathe. I like your style.
Starting point is 00:39:46 When I put up the Patrick Robinson's pick six, I deflected Case Keenham's arm in the NFC championship, you know, that was one of the one of my favorite calls. Spoiler alert, when we get out of this thing and we rank the calls, that's personal to me. a part of it. But I thought you did a magnificent job. Robinson needs a block. Gets it. You know, like the pauses are perfect. But then you get people in the comments like, yeah, he hates Philly. You can just hear it. Now, Joe, if I'm being honest, and I go back and I look at the Mitchell call from like 1994 or whatever the fuck. When was the Mitchell call? What's the Mitchell call? Brian Mitchell,
Starting point is 00:40:24 I think it was on the kickoff return. Mitchell. Mitchell. Mitchell. Mitchell. You don't have these cataloging in your head, Joe? I don't know what it was. God, I have absolutely no idea. See, to these Philly people or fill in the blank, any of these fans, it's he hates my team. No, he's just letting it breathe. Watch the Minnesota Miracle. That's one of my favorite calls, okay?
Starting point is 00:40:50 It's just, it's word, word, word, in for a touchdown, whatever it is. And sometimes the crowd noise is enough. That's how I feel when I'm watching a guy. game where there's a lot of atmosphere and there's a lot of noise. Do you think, do you, do you taper or alter the way that you call a play, depending on if it's at home or a way? Because I looked at that play and it makes me think about that's the loudest I've ever heard that stadium. A lot of people say that and I'm saying that very proudly, the Minnesota miracle, same thing. You know, very loud. Do you alter the way you call those plays?
Starting point is 00:41:27 Yeah, absolutely, because there is nothing that I can say that is going to be as exciting as watching the action and listening to the crowd go crazy. I mean, if I'm doing that and I'm going to trample all over that, I mean, that's kind of a shame on me. I'm taking that over for myself. That's not the way I want to listen to it if I'm at home. It's why it's when a World Series ends and the visiting team wins it, you've got to really kind of go, overboard because there's no noise in the stadium, as opposed to when a team wins it, the whole thing, and they're at home and the crowd's going crazy. There's just not much to say.
Starting point is 00:42:09 It's TV. If I'm doing radio, different deal. But it's television. And you have to assume that people in those moments are actually watching, and they don't need you to tell them more than just the bare bones, and then just let them enjoy it. I don't like hijacking those moments. So that Diggs moment, a walk. off touchdown in a playoff game. That's about as good as it gets
Starting point is 00:42:31 in a home stadium. Now, pick it in that now, it was against New Orleans, so everybody in New Orleans going, oh, my God, he's losing his mind. He's so excited. He hates the Saints. It's the most exciting play I've ever seen. Yeah, and it was so out of nowhere because you expect
Starting point is 00:42:47 it digs to just catch and hop out of bounds, and he caught it, stayed up, turned around, and nobody was there, and he just went in and they win the game. You're preparing yourself for game-winning field goal try. And in an instant, you get a walk-off touchdown run after a catch. And it's just like breathtaking.
Starting point is 00:43:06 And there's nothing more that I can say that's going to add to that except, you know, unbelievable, whatever I said, Vikings win it. And just shut up and let the directors show you these great pictures and let the crowd go crazy. That is, those are the moments that you live for on TV, not because. I want to hear myself scream. It's because I love what I do, and I love those big moments. The Tony Romo thing reminds me of that. Like, it's great.
Starting point is 00:43:36 And I really like Tony Romo. I know he's in another network, but I think he's great. It's different. You know, he's color, so he's kind of painting a picture, and he's kind of, you know, an auxiliary voice in the booth. So it's different, but I will say that some people have noted since he got paid. They're like, well, I don't turn on. the game to listen to the announcer primarily, whether it's the play-by-play or the color.
Starting point is 00:44:02 And that makes sense to me. But I do think that you can add value. And sometimes I think in a situation like that, your best value is to let the, let the thing breathe. Absolutely. And you're right about Tony. I think the best thing that Tony did when he got in, you know, came off the field and went right into the booth is he didn't get into the business trying to sound like anybody had done it before.
Starting point is 00:44:25 And for me, there was a long. line of guys that all tried to sound like John Madden for better or worse. And Tony Romo came along and it's almost like he had never really seen a game on TV, which I know he had, but he did his own timing. He did his own excitement. He did his own voice in collection. He did his own predicting of plays, whatever. And so good for him. But yeah, I think, I think those moments need to stand on their own. And those are the moments for the sport and for those teams and for, you know, that moment in a playoff game or Super Bowl or World Series. Those aren't the moments for the announcers. And I think that's the best thing about growing
Starting point is 00:45:08 up being my dad's son. You know, he's like, hey, you just realize if you get hit by a bus going into the stadium tonight and you're, you know, planted against a brick wall and dead, they're still going to play the game. They may or may not have a moment of silence, depending on where the game's being played. But nobody is tuning into the game saying, what game is Joe Buck doing? They're tuning into the game because they want to watch their team. And you have to do the game.
Starting point is 00:45:36 At least I do. That's what I think of every time. That's my mentality about what my job. They'd be whipping up the microphone patches for you ASAP. Do you think? Well, just for marketing and like, yeah, make a little giveaway. They give them away in Philadelphia.
Starting point is 00:45:53 People can burn them whatever they want to do. heard of you can't predict the digs play if you're going into a super bowl or decisive world series game how much are you thinking about a potential final call or how much are you trying to get yourself to not think about a potential final call yeah that's it's a great question it's something that i wrestle with all the time because your ego goes man let's make this just airtight and perfect and that's not how you call any other moment of any other game. And when you wake up and you write down some line, by the time the moment comes,
Starting point is 00:46:34 that line most of the time, maybe all the time, turns out to be just corny. And I feel like I learned that lesson in 98 in the Mark McGuire home run chase. You know, everybody kept asking me, well, if he breaks Roger Maris's record, what are you going to say? I was like, I don't know. I don't know what I'm going to say at any time.
Starting point is 00:46:57 You know, the ending starts and we just start talking. I don't know what's going to come out. And so he, everybody asked me, asked me, asked me, asked me, asked me, eventually I took the bait and I went to bed thinking about what I was going to say, and I woke up thinking about what I was going to say, and I wrote it down at my scorebook, this, what I thought was going to be this great, magistical call. And the ball that he hit for the record-breaking home run.
Starting point is 00:47:25 So fast. It was barely fair and barely over the wall. And because I couldn't take my eyes off the ball and go down to my stupid script that I had written that morning, I had to keep my head up and my eyes up. And I noticed him he was so excited that he jumped over first base because he was watching it too. And that became part of the call. Touch first, Mark. you're the new single season home run king.
Starting point is 00:47:51 And then I didn't say one other thing. And I had not planned that at all. And that let me know that in that big moment, I would come up with the right words if I just trusted myself, as opposed to, you know, let's plan what we're going to say and force the ending to fit my script. I think you have to just make sure your words fit what's happening in front of your face. Did you have to, when you got in this thing way back?
Starting point is 00:48:55 I mean, you got into this in the early 90s, right? You're one of the youngest dudes to do it. Have you had to evolve your style? Do people, do you wake up? First off, I mean, it's got to be hard because I hate my voice. Somebody with a voice like yours, I wonder, do you hate your voice, Joe? Because if you hate your voice, there's no hope for any of us. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I mean, I don't like listening. I don't like listening to myself. And that's the hardest thing, because if you're going to get good at this, You have to listen to your stuff. Now, I think you have to have a lot. I think you have to have some lag time. If I do a Super Bowl and the next day, I go racing home and I just sit down and watch it, it's an unfair watch because I know what I said.
Starting point is 00:49:43 I remember what I said. And I also remember what I wanted to say but didn't. The choices I made, whatever it might be. If I go back and I go back, you know, like you said, what year was the Mitchell call? I have no idea. If I go back and I get it's been... You got to go back and hear it. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:50:02 No, I know. But if I go back and I watch and I don't remember all the specifics, then it's a fair listen. And so, yeah, there are times when, you know, my voice drives me crazy. Well, I mean, that makes us feel better because we can't listen to this fucking podcast. I'll tell you. And not that this podcast is as successful as a broadcast. of an NFL playoff game.
Starting point is 00:50:27 But I know that like I know the feeling of when if you watch it too soon and it's too fresh, your brain is still processing all the information that you prep so hard on. So sometimes like if you make a point, you're like, that's not even a good point. But everybody else thinks it's a good point, but you've been studying it for a week. So you're over it probably. And then like as you're watching, have you had to steer your voice or your inflection or your style a certain way? Do guys, how do guys work it?
Starting point is 00:50:55 get coached into having a style or do you show up and have a style and go with it? Like you wouldn't want to do Gus Johnson. Gus Johnson wouldn't want to do Joe Buck. Could either of you do what each other does? I'm assuming no. I mean, like you have different styles. Absolutely. And that's why I tell, you know, young people that want to get into this business,
Starting point is 00:51:18 when you're working in a smaller market or hell, if you're doing it into a tape recorder, which is what I was doing when I was 13, 14, 15, and the booths, next to my dad's booth. That's the time to work on that stuff. That's the time to see what your style may be. But if you get into it, and if I got into this going, I want to be my dad. Or I'm going to be Vin Scully.
Starting point is 00:51:39 Or I'm going to be Marve Albert. Or I'm going to be, you know, whoever, Bell Allen. These are names you probably don't even know. But I'm going to be Harry Carey, whatever it might be. Well, you don't have to be Jagbaugh. I don't have to be Howie Long. Yeah, no, you don't have to be Howie Long. I hate to be the one to break it to you.
Starting point is 00:51:56 So I just, I think you have to just find whatever it is that makes you, you. And that comes from being prepared and it comes from being relaxed. And when you are at your most relaxed, your style will come out. You have your own style. And I know what your style is. And I like that. I think you are, you know, you're not your dad. You're a completely different person.
Starting point is 00:52:24 And that's how I got into this. Now, I also worked with my dad. I was my dad's broadcast partner for, you know, whatever was 10 years or 12 years. And I was seated right next to him. And all that stuff just kind of seeps in. But I never overtly thought, well, what my dad say here? Because that's what I want to say. I just, you have to turn that off and just find out who you are on the air and then be confident in that.
Starting point is 00:52:52 and hopefully that's good enough. If it isn't, it's true. Then the business will tell you and you won't have a job. And if it is, then go with it and further refine it. Well, it's a twofold question for you and I. I mean, not that we have the same plight, but, you know, I would argue that part of the people that I think if I'm disliked by somebody, okay, lately it's my politics, okay, not to get political here, but they also might not like the fact they perceive nepotism.
Starting point is 00:53:21 you know, if you are somebody's son, you're always going to be viewed as somebody's son. And I do think that there's some people that probably shortchange you because of that or have had it in their head forever and they can't fucking get over it, even though to me, I think that you're just as good or maybe better, but I'm a contemporary, okay? So like, and that's no offense to your dad is a legend.
Starting point is 00:53:41 But for me, it's, you know, and on top. I have a totally different career than my dad. My dad was a radio guy that got a chance at the end of his career because Brent Musburger got fired by CBS to do two years of national baseball in kind of the current type marketplace and do it with Tim McCarver and it didn't really go that well. You know, he had a two-year deal with a two-year option and they got rid of him and they ended up hiring Sean McDonough. He came from a different era. But the whole notion that basically 30 years later, somebody's still doing my dad a favor who never worked in box. That's the guy that hired me.
Starting point is 00:54:18 He doesn't even make sense. I think those are the same people not staying inside right now during the pandemic. I think that's the analysis capability. They're down. They're spring breaking. It's the parents. It's the parents of the kids that are spring breaking. Exactly. And they should be ashamed. I have just as much contempt for the parents of those kids as I do those kids.
Starting point is 00:54:39 Absolutely. But we can leave that. Absolutely. For another day. With your dad, okay, so like if I go back and listen to people from his era, it's almost like, is it the audio of their voices that sound? different or did people's voices just sound really fucking different, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:53 in the middle of the last century, you know? Like, did the style evolve? I mean, the whole style evolved, like, as years went. Well, my dad talked like this. My dad smoked from the time he was 16 years old until the time he died. And so he, you know, his joke and it's his joke, so
Starting point is 00:55:13 don't tweet at me, but somebody who, some kid would ask him, you know, well, how do you get into this? what would be your advice to a kid starting in his business? And the first thing out of his mouth was, I was start smoking. So that's not exactly the case. Does vaping count?
Starting point is 00:55:30 Yeah, yeah, no, yeah, sure. That's how he would have evolved if they start vaping. Yeah. So, yeah, I don't know. But back then, I think when you listen to playback, for whatever reason now on the audio equipment we have, or it was recorded at a higher speed, Like, I listen to Stern all the time, and you go back in time on Howard Stern.
Starting point is 00:55:53 He's talking up here, and he's really fast, and he sounds like a different person, and now it's a lot more resonant. Yeah. I think his voice is way better now, but I don't know that it's any different. I think it just was recorded on different type equipment and lesser quality equipment than what it's played back on now. Yeah, you can almost smell people's breaths now. Like, I can hear spit hitting.
Starting point is 00:56:16 You know, it's the microphones are so. powerful. Do you have a favorite from this era or era's past, like the peers that you look at and you're like, I wish I could do what that guy does. Like, you know, players, there's players that I wish I could be, but they're just different. Well, yeah. I mean, I think I take a little bit, I would take a little bit from everybody. I would like to take my dad's carefree style. I would like to take the way he lived his life and didn't really worry. You know, when I used to, when I used to, get worried about something with my kids when I was a young dad. You know, we'd say, you don't, don't holler till you're hurt.
Starting point is 00:56:56 I'll tell you when to worry, kind of a thing. And a guy who was shot in World War II and had been thrilled. I would love to take his, don't worry about it, and just, especially in these times. I mean, do what you're supposed to do, but the roof isn't falling in and we'll get through this, kind of a thing. I would take Al Michael's precision, even at this age and his, and his, ability to do what he does. He's still very precise, and maybe even more so than I am, as a guy who's 25-plus years
Starting point is 00:57:27 younger than he is. Costas' recall, Terrico's ability to do everything well, and he's got a brilliant math mind. Nance, the way he calls golf. I mean, the list goes on and on. I don't want to be anybody else, but I see attributes and characteristics of other guys and what they do on the air is played by play callers. But they go, God, you know, when a punt happens
Starting point is 00:57:54 and Toriko spits out 46-yard punt right away, I've texted him during a game. I'm like, you do that in your head, don't you? When that's going on? He's like, yeah, I just have the ability to do that. And I said, I'm so jealous of that. This is while he's calling a game. And he said, well, I'll trade you my math abilities for your voice.
Starting point is 00:58:11 And so I think we all, we all look at other facets of what everybody else does. And you admire it. And I admire these guys that have done it for as long as they have or do it as well as they do. And I'm just trying to do my part at my network to the best of my ability. And when they find, you know, the next great guy, I'll be, you know, out on the street and happy for what I got a guest to do. You make it sound like you're going to be homeless. No, but that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:58:45 If my career ended today, my career. 10 years ago, I've done 50 times more than I ever thought I would do. So people go, what else would you want to do? I'm like, what kind of an asshole would I be if I said, well, you know, I want to do the NBA. I think I'd like to call the Kentucky Derby, and I'd love to do the Masters, and I'd like to do curling. Well, you didn't say, okay, you didn't say hockey there, and I was going to ask how hard hockey appears to be from a play by place. It's very hard. But the TV guys are so good at it.
Starting point is 00:59:15 they're basically doing radio on TV. It's amazing. Everybody that touches the puck. And that's not the way I would do any of it. And yet I said, it's my favorite sport to watch. It's my only sport that I really root for because I'm a blues. How about the blues, baby? It was unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:59:35 And the best fan experience I've ever had. And to watch that, I get it. I mean, and I got, I was educated with a lot of the stuff I deal with. mainly in October when, you know, Doc Emrick is great and Kenny Albert is great and a great friend of mine. And somebody I've been colleagues with since 1994. And I think the world of the guy, but when the games mattered the most, I wanted the blues announcers to call the games on my TV. And that's how I listen to them all year every year. And now you're listening to somebody who is truly unbiased and doesn't care who wins. Just like when I'm
Starting point is 01:00:15 I'm doing a World Series or Super Bowl or a champ game or whatever it might be, I don't care who wins. It doesn't affect my life. But when I'm a fan, man, I want the person telling me on TV what's going on to feel the same way I feel. And so it was really helpful. And I get it. And I got it more than I ever did.
Starting point is 01:00:36 I always thought I got it until I watched really great broadcasters do their thing. And I was just yearning for my guys to do it. It's the same phenomenon with, you know, shout out to Steve Savard or like guys in St. Louis, like people that would watch a game, you know, they get used to one thing, and then it's the big stage, and it's another, and they want the personalization, they want the familiarity, they want the references from the regular season, behind-the-scenes stuff. And you just can't get that as much from the national guys because they have 32 teams to worry about. You mentioned being a fan.
Starting point is 01:01:07 Is there been a game that you called that you said, I wish it was not in this booth? Meaning it was so bad? No, it was so good. This was a game that you had waited for. The atmosphere was crazy. You wished you were tailgating. You wish you were and excluding St. Louis sports maybe. But you can give me a St. Louis.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Yeah, no. No, it's not. I, honest to God, I would tell you if I did, I don't, I think I lost that as a kid because I would go on these road trips with my dad with the Cardinals, and I was in every National League City by the time I was 12, and I was bat-boying, and I was shagging fly balls before the game, and I was around players, and I was on the charter and I was on, you know, I was picked on by players and I was in the
Starting point is 01:01:48 broadcast booth and I saw all that. And I was living and dying with the Cardinals. If they won, I was happy. If they lost, I was pissed and dejected. And then I would get on the charter and the guy that the closer that just gave up the game winning home run has got the middle seat popped down. They're playing cards. They don't have a care in the world.
Starting point is 01:02:05 And I thought, why am I going to bed mad when the guy that just gave it up is having the time of his life? and I think I lost some of that fandom in baseball. I never, I mean, I went to the Rams Super Bowl win in Atlanta in the 2000 season. It was, yeah, 2009, whatever season that was, 2000, January or February 2000 in Atlanta. And I loved every minute of being there as a fan. But for the most part, the only fan experience I have where I'm like, oh my God, I wish I was out, you know, drinking beer and hanging with my family or my friends is in hockey.
Starting point is 01:02:48 I just don't have that for the sports I fall. I would rather be in the booth. I'd rather game seven of the 2016 World Series, the Cubs and the Indians where the Cubs haven't won in 108 years. I would rather call it than be out in the seats, you know, drinking beer watching it. It's just more fun for me. That, to me, is fun instead of just. you know, parking in general parking and going in and buying it.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Oh, it fucking sucks. I heard that whole realization when I went to Kyle's first game or Kyle's first game this past year. My first game as a retired player I was like, I don't get this. I don't get football anymore. I don't get being a football fan. I was in a suite. I didn't get it. Like, I
Starting point is 01:03:31 didn't get it. And yeah, it's the same kind of thing. Well, that's why I think, you know, whether it's, if it's Philly fans, giant football fans, whatever it might be, that they're going there and they're trudging to their stadium and the weather's terrible and it's raining
Starting point is 01:03:46 or it's snowing or it's whatever and they could just as easily be at home watching the thing on a flat screen TV I'm like, good it on you. That's their thing. Yeah, it's their thing. I can't get in there. I'm so glad they want to do it. Thank God that people want to do that and it's, for me, I'd rather call it.
Starting point is 01:04:02 Otherwise, I'd be at home or in the arena if it's a hockey game and that's about it. We've been to a booth at Duke that doubled as a dentist office before a recent renovation. At Hard Rock Stadium, they put us the college broadcasts in the corner of the end zone.
Starting point is 01:04:20 I'm wondering on the flip side, what currently is the best, let's say, NFL booth physically, size, sight line, etc. Chicago, believe it or not. It's a weird stadium, so yeah. Yeah, you would think that it's really low. And typically that knocks out some of your perception of like the far sideline. New England's tough, like on the far sideline, to see that over there.
Starting point is 01:04:51 And it feels dark in there at night. But Chicago, for some reason, like, I can see guys' expressions on their faces when they're running in the right direction. So it's so good. Miami was great. You know, you just mentioned Hard Rock. But when they went through the renovation and where we get to sit for the network booth, that was like, thank God we're calling a Super Bowl in a stadium like this where you can see. Our first Super Bowl was in Jacksonville where you're hanging off the clouds.
Starting point is 01:05:20 And it's like, oh, my God, I can't see from up here. It's like the tops of helmets running around down there. They've made it better since then. But that is harrowing. You asked me earlier, what's my biggest fear? My biggest fear is not being able to see right from the booth because of where it's stationed. For the most part, we have the best seat in the house. But every once in a while, you know, it doesn't really work out that way.
Starting point is 01:05:48 And Jacksonville doing a Super Bowl there back in whatever year that was, 2004 was that was a Super Bowl. That was one of the most hideous. We ranked Super Bowl logos. That was bad. Really? Yeah, it's forgettable too, Joe. Yeah, back when they were doing them right, now it's been corporatized. And every logo looks the same.
Starting point is 01:06:08 It's all silvery. and you've got to put the Lombardi Trophy in there. Before we let you go, Joe, you know, we're going to talk about our favorite calls. Do you have favorite calls from anybody else? Favorite calls that you did? Is there one you look back on and you hate besides the McGuire? He got the McGuire right,
Starting point is 01:06:28 but the build up to it was I fucked up the process. Yeah, yeah, I didn't like the process on that. The call I liked, there are many that I go back, because it's not fair. It's not fair to go back and go, God, I wish I had done that. Or I wish I had said this. I just don't live like that. I think the ones that stand out to me are, you know, the Yankees winning in 96
Starting point is 01:06:51 because it was the first time I was doing a real national broadcast. I was 27 and started that World Series scared out of my mind. They're not scared, but just timid and wondering how it would all go. And it worked and I felt comfortable. So that's the ones. It's like that, you know, you'd ever forget your first. I think 96 World Series, that was Jeter's rookie year and the whole Yankees returned to greatness, I think is one that stands out to me.
Starting point is 01:07:19 The Plexigal Burris touchdown for Bieli Manning is one. David Freeze, getting the game winning home run in the 11th inning of game six in 2011. And then the Diggs call. I mean, I think the Diggs won that Stefan Diggs walkoff touchdown is one that at least as far as football is concerned is one that I walked out of it going, good God, that was literally breathtaking and I'm glad I didn't screw it up. And yeah, that's one that I would put on my just because of what it meant. That would be on my lifetime highlight reel, I think. You can only mention one. What's your favorite Jack Buck call? It wouldn't be the typical ones.
Starting point is 01:08:02 I mean, I know we're wrapping up, but the Kirk Gibson. Well, we don't have to. We love you. It's just we just know other people have shit to do during the pandemic. No, yeah, right. The Kirk Gibson home run, I don't believe what I just saw. People would say, or Ozzy Smith, go crazy folks. That was the one I was. He did one of Bob Gibson throwing a no-hitter where his voice cracks at the end of it. And to me, because, you know, he was my hero, my best friend, my idol, my everything.
Starting point is 01:08:39 I just know how much you love Bob, first of all, and I know how much you love the beauty of sports. And I think in particular the beauty of a no-hitter. And, you know, when he says it, he says, it's a strike call and his voice cracks. And I can hear him and see him choking up. That's the one that stands out to me because it just encompasses who he was and why he was so great at what he did. well joe we certainly enjoyed this buddy and we hope to come back soon we hope to hear you talking sports soon any idea on the MLB stuff no i mean i everybody's at this point i think everybody's just speculating and nobody has any idea and and even with the NFL off season um where that's headed shit the NFL season yeah yeah the NFL season so
Starting point is 01:09:35 you know, maybe I've heard some in the game say get back at it in June and then kind of have the All-Star game, the second week of July, kind of be the big piece at the early part of the season to really jumpstart the second half of the year, which wouldn't be a half. It would be the majority of the year. But I don't know. I mean, you're talking about it best, I think, in 80 game season somewhere in there. Maybe a few more. but, man, at this point, I'm sitting here hoping that they play at all,
Starting point is 01:10:09 because then that means that some things are restored to normal. It's not because I care about my job or baseball or whatever. I think it speaks to the bigger picture that we can all kind of resume normal interaction and life. And that's what I'm hopeful for. So I'm going to hold out of hope for June, and maybe we'll, We'll listen to this in a few years and go, God, what a moron he was. They didn't play that year or hell, they were playing in May. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:10:41 But I'm hoping June. Well, this podcast doesn't have enough viewers that somebody will pick it up and then hold it over your head. So Joe, we're all too smart to know that's not true. Well, so Joe, I actually think 80 games might be appetizing to some fringe baseball fans. But we will see you hopefully and hear you in June. I hope you stay safe, and it was great catching up with you, bro. You too, guys. Thanks a lot. Okay, talk soon.
Starting point is 01:11:10 All right, so that was our good friend Joe Buck. Joe Buck. I love Joe Buck. Yeah. He really has, I don't know if he's aware of his Q score, his Q rating. Yeah. But it's on the come-up. Really?
Starting point is 01:11:23 Yeah, people are now appreciating Joe Buck. How do I find a Q score? Yeah. That's a great question. And what is the Q score? Like likability? Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Well, and I'm making that up. I don't know if there is a day or days. But I feel like it's gone from, as we discuss, people thinking, oh, Joe Buck hates my team, I don't like Joe Buck to now, hmm, he's the best. I think Joe did a great job of being self-aware and realizing that people never got to see the fun side of him. And Joe Buck is a fun fucking dude. I mean, he's awesome. He's one of the coolest dudes my dad worked with.
Starting point is 01:12:00 If I had to pick a person to drink with that my dad worked with, there's a lot of great options there. I mean, uh, Jimmy Johnson, fishing, drinking Heineken's, you know, TB, you know, a nice glass of whiskey, listen to his stories. Um, Joe Buck would maybe be my, you know, although the other guys are the big, you know, football players, the legends, Joe Buck for a night of drinking, uh, I'd put him up there with anybody of Fox. And also, I think that at a certain point, he realized that, you know, people maybe had a bit of the baseball bug
Starting point is 01:12:37 where they didn't like him because I think it has a lot to do with the Cardinals. The Cardinals are kind of a dislikable team in baseball. I think it's the nepotism, the perceived nepotism thing, which is I know well and good, people will dislike you from the beginning because, you know, they're always comparing you
Starting point is 01:12:55 or they think that you've gotten jobs easier than anybody. Okay, Joe Buck's been in the business for a long time. Joe Buck can call the shit out of a game. And, you know, as we kind of went through and I said, let's rank some stuff. Let's rank our favorite play-by-plays. Joe Buck definitely has two calls that I love. One, I mentioned in the interviews, near and dear to my heart.
Starting point is 01:13:19 That's the Patrick Robinson pick six. Needs a block. Gets one. You know, like that whole thing. And then just letting it breathe. and watching everybody mob Patrick Robinson in that corner of the end zone, into the tunnel. People are going crazy, I'm getting chills just thinking.
Starting point is 01:13:40 CSC staff, you know, like hyped. It's like just one of them, just getting chills and Joe let it breathe. People say it's the loudest they heard that stadium, you could hear it on TV, and then Troy, shout out to my boy, running the replay back and being like, hey, there was a guy, that made that ball a duck.
Starting point is 01:14:00 I also love the call, the Minnesota Miracle. And a lot of this play-by-play stuff, I think you could sub out a lot of announcers and you'd get a call that you would call iconic.
Starting point is 01:14:12 He mentioned the Kirk Gibson call. Everybody likes that call. Well, yeah, yeah. He mentioned Bob Gibson, no, no. And then there's the, which he loved. I haven't heard that one. I think about the go crazy folks call
Starting point is 01:14:25 with Ozzie Smith, the wizard in St. Louis. but when you talk about the Kurt Gibson call, and I guess that was his dad. It was. I didn't think that call was spectacular. I mean, it was a good call, but... I love it.
Starting point is 01:14:38 Normally, you put these on paper, and they look, oh, that wouldn't sound so good. Yeah. And then you see the moment, and it's just perfect. I think that call is better on paper. I don't believe what I just saw, I think, is a tremendous line. Yes.
Starting point is 01:14:53 Yes. I think it's iconic call. Well, I think it's iconic, because I'm not saying anybody could have called it, but I'm just saying that I think Jack has better calls. In my opinion, it's all subjective. And I also don't think he screwed it up. I just didn't think there was anything about it
Starting point is 01:15:08 that I'm like, yeah, that, the magnitude of a dude with a bad hamstring and a knee blown up like that, coming to the plate and winning a game like that for them. It's like in limping around the bases, like, you just, it's hard to screw up. Yeah. We'll see you tomorrow night. So simple.
Starting point is 01:15:26 forcing in game seven. Jack called that in 91 with Kirby Puckett and then Joe's done that a couple times since paying homage to his father with a couple. We'll see you later tonight's. And we'll see you later tonight's when the Bo Sox went over
Starting point is 01:15:43 after midnight on one of those. Let me give you one, Chris. I'd love it. Bill Raftery analyst, so not play-by-play. Send it in Jerome. Jerome Lane playing for the Pitt Panthers. Sean Miller.
Starting point is 01:16:02 Sean Miller was a point guard, now the head coach at Arizona, sweaty man. What year is this? This is like the 90s? Send it in Jerome. Yeah, this is 25 years before 2013, so do that math. Do that Mike Tariko math there. 88. Yep.
Starting point is 01:16:19 Lanes on the other wing. Send it in Jerome, but that's not in your head pictures to begin with. Oh, you know what? The YouTube, it began with Jay and Bill and Shaw McDonough in a relatively recent time. Actually, here Jay Billis has hair, harkening back to that call. And, you know, the intro of the cathedral at Notre Dame. And Raptory got to run that back with Ty Jerome at Virginia and a couple of big shots. Send it in Jerome.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Yep. Nice. Jerome. There's a lot of ways you can use Jerome. Yes, indeed. By the way, speaking of Virginia, I know that when I watched some highlight videos of great calls, like Diakite's shot made it. And I forget who did the game.
Starting point is 01:17:11 Brian Anderson. Brian Anderson, because you're better with this stuff than I am. Sometimes I listen to the game, I just tune it out. What we were talking about, there's certain guys that I feel like are pluses for me. But some of them, it's just noise. The only thing he screwed up there was he was like, for the tie. And then he said, for the tie again, the two-pointer.
Starting point is 01:17:30 And he's like, to send the overtime. Well, he goes, I have it in my head. He goes, Diiquete, for the win. Or for the win, yep. Yes. For the win. And then he went to for the tie. For the tie.
Starting point is 01:17:40 That was it. Diiquete squares it at 70. And so I will tell you that there was some mind tricks in that arena. Right. Just when you're seeing a team down to attempting a free throw. And then a lot of things happen quickly. And a shot goes in. You just think it's for the win.
Starting point is 01:17:59 The Virginia broadcast was the same as the TV broadcast. as the same as the Purdue broadcast, it was all for the win. It was a crazy little mind. Yeah, it was a mind fuck. Yes. Yeah, I guess I would put Kevin Harlan's calling the cat this fall up there. I mean, Kevin Harlan turned a streaker in San Francisco
Starting point is 01:18:23 in a 21-0-0 ball game against the Jeff Fisher led Rams post-Sealong, 21-0 in the bay. I mean, he turned the streaker into, you know, something to talk about. I mean, you know, a lot of, a lot of announcers and Harlan can do it all. He can do all the sports. He's probably my favorite. The best voice. I mean, him at the dinner table has just got to be electric.
Starting point is 01:18:51 Yeah. But he can turn anything into something. I guess for me, you probably remember the big poppy Homer to tie it against Detroit. that was one that I think Joe did a good job with it's the simplicity do you believe in miracles that was one that came up time and time again
Starting point is 01:19:12 I don't like it I didn't like the movie I don't like the call in part because Al's analyst talks over his call and I think he rushes it so it's do you believe in miracles yes there was no
Starting point is 01:19:30 breathing room there and it also sounded like something that like we talked to Joe about could have been written beforehand a little contrived yeah people seem to say I mean well they also like the movie which is not very good and they like the speech in that movie which we went way back in the teens of the Greenlight Pod the annals of Green Light Pod history we talked about speeches and the miracle speech the who was it the Kurt Russell speech I didn't think much of it. Also, LeBron James with no regard for human life.
Starting point is 01:20:04 That's great. That's just, I could put, you know, that dude in here, like one through ten if I was ranking them. You've got Ewing missing the layup for a Knicks fan that's tough to say, but the ding dong, the witch is dead is great.
Starting point is 01:20:21 You know, touch them all, Joe, is a real iconic call. They did not let that breathe, right? It's like kind of the opposite of what we've talked about, but still iconic. Yeah. And we are, let me shout out my radio people. We are just talking TV. Yes. There are some iconic radio calls where you should not be letting it breathe so much because we can't see what's going on. Well, there's kick six. I mean,
Starting point is 01:20:46 and a lot of that lends itself to the locals. Yeah. Like you're going to be excited, kind of like what Joe was talking about. Like I like that raw emotion. Frank Quill in 95, work done stopped at the goal line. I got, no, no, they're going to say no. I got to hear it. Virginia's going to win the Not now, but I gotta hear it. Awesome. Yeah. I mean, the Giants win the pennant, but like most people my age, like, who cares that the Giants won the pennant?
Starting point is 01:21:09 Well, hey, 86 Masters. I don't care a whole lot about Jack Nicholas winning the Masters, but Vern Lundquist, there's a putt on its way. Maybe. Yes, sir. Yep. Brilliant. Love that call.
Starting point is 01:21:23 Listen, I love hearing people call the Masters. I've never gotten into watching it. But the highlight calls, it can, it's like artwork. You know, because some of the best guys are doing golf, some of the prettiest pictures are on the screen. I would watch the heck out of the Masters right now. Oh, if you could watch the Masters. What would you do to watch the Masters right now?
Starting point is 01:21:45 I mean, I would just guarantee you that I would watch from first T to the last guy on 18 without a break. Yeah, yeah. And that's not easy. But I would, I would guarantee you that. Would you... Would you buzz your head to watch the Masters right now? Yeah, I guess I got married, so we're not really trying to show off anymore.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Would you buzz your head to watch the NCAA tournament right now? Tournament. Tournament, wow, careful. I was playing kind of like we say Tuesday. Yeah, I'd do most anything to watch that tournament right about now. Who's finished number 16 in the final age? Would you let Mike Tyson punch you in the face? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Just once. Yeah. The band is out on the field. Another great call. Band is out on the field. That's one that I didn't bring up. Listen, it's so iconic, it seems chalky. But if you had to rank them, that's up there.
Starting point is 01:22:45 I mean, as far as calls go, that's top five. I'd have to look back and see how good those teams were because those are local guys. So it's kind of made to seem bigger than maybe what it was. I don't know. Maybe those teams were really good back then. John Elway playing in that game? I'll let you know.
Starting point is 01:23:03 If Tyson's punched me in the face, I also, I rid the world of coronavirus. I mean, because we get the tournament back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you die to rid the world of coronavirus? Yeah, no, wait. What do I, honest or no? You have to say yes.
Starting point is 01:23:22 Well, I'll give you, you want me to be honest? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you got to. Yeah. You got to. Yours for thousands, you got to. Yeah, I was thinking of my lovely wife, Kate, in that moment when I said yes.
Starting point is 01:23:34 Yeah. She might be upset. Yeah. I was thinking of who's the older lady that everybody freaks out about every time she's training, trending. Betty White. Yeah, she's still alive for Betty White for like Kareem for like older people that I'm really, you know, I'm the opposite of that spring breaker.
Starting point is 01:23:56 Your kids? Well, yeah, but we're not worried about the kids as much right now, God willing. Back to lighter topics. The play. Who's going to the Patriots? Bo Allen's going to the Patriots. Nice. I resisted the urge to give it the scoopage.
Starting point is 01:24:17 You know, you knew. When did you know? I'm really excited about Bo Allen. I can't say when. I'm really excited about Bo Allen. Bo Allen is going to be the perfect patriot. The perfect patriot. One of the worst things about New England,
Starting point is 01:24:33 if you're counting bad things, is the weight room is unrelenting. Like, it's just, hey, lift this car today. Like, you just got done, you just got done doing 80 plays on Sunday. Hey, put this sob on your back and squat it a hundred times. You don't see so many sobs anymore.
Starting point is 01:24:50 You don't. Shout out to Action Bronson's sob stories. Oh. Now, Bo Allen will lift the house. He's perfect for their scheme. Bill's gonna love him. I think he's just gonna thrive.
Starting point is 01:25:05 He's a big hairy dude. It's cold up there. You know, he's like a modern-day Norseman and that climate is conducive to Norseman and they're gonna love him up there. And when the Pats in the box meet in the Super Bowl he'll have all the Tampa Bay secrets. He will. They'll be grilling him.
Starting point is 01:25:21 Cal won that ball game to go to six and four. Stanford fell to five and five. Like, it was a who gives a fuck ball game. a fuck ballgame. Yeah. That's the thing that people forget. Yep.
Starting point is 01:25:32 People are forgetting. Okay, let's get into our uniform rankings. Tom Brady's obviously changing teams. Hey, Chris, give us your take on Tom Brady changing teams. He was in New England for 20 years. Now he's somewhere different. It's going to look really weird. And I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:49 I think he's still really good. I love Tom Brady. He kind of gave him the the fuck you, you, fuck you, you're cool, I'm out. You had the meme with the moving meme, I don't know what they're calling these with Ben Affleck and Jeremy Renner. You saw that one with Julian's face on Jeremy Renner.
Starting point is 01:26:10 Really creepy because at the end, he's like, you could tell your people, I can't do the fucking accent. Every accent I try to do, whether it's New England or Chicago, it just ends up being like a New York accent, but he's basically like, tell your fucking people to end up, come see me in fucking Florida. you know like really eerie and in fact last night i tweeted hey when the simpsons you know you pull up some simpsons episodes that predicted tom going to tampa i really believe the simpsons thing some guy produced a screenshot a still of a brady character on the simpsons standing next to warren sap and a couple
Starting point is 01:26:52 others and there was a some sort of a boat reference on a sign like they were going to some boat show or Tom Brady is going to play in front of a pirate ship the goat is going to play in front of a plastic pirate ship
Starting point is 01:27:08 I know folks like to to ride Pat's fans because they've seen a lot of winning of late it has the last 20 years I do feel for them I know when Wahoo leaves after three to five years,
Starting point is 01:27:26 I'm in my feelings. I can only imagine. I didn't really grow up with the pro team. I can only imagine four, five, Xing that and having that be a part of your life for so long. Sorry to get serious for a moment. But I can imagine that people are sad and I feel for you. But there's a detail, and I'm not saying this,
Starting point is 01:27:43 there's a lot of Pat's fans who have been, you know, Pat's fans since the stadium was, you know, I forget what the name of the stadium was, when they wore the red and the white and the better unies. I bet you if you asked a lot of young Pats fans to name five pre-Bradie Patriots, they'd have a hard time. So the difference is there,
Starting point is 01:28:11 and this is just for the Pats fans who got on the wagon 20 years ago, which if you're a kid, I don't blame you. You're a kid. You grew up in New England or you didn't. This is this team that provides you to stability. to enjoy football for the next 10, 20 years. Now it's gone. So as I joked, you know, Pats fans and Gen Z
Starting point is 01:28:34 are experiencing their first challenges of their existence. A lot of Pats fans, you know, those in the 25 to 35 range, for sure as Pats fans. We'll see what happens. So it's gonna look weird, no matter what. Like, they're not going shot clock numbers anymore. They're changing the uniforms. I don't know if they're going Creamsicle.
Starting point is 01:28:55 They might be going, you know, Mike Allstats. Just go back to Creamsicle. Just do it. What's the holdup? And rumors are that the paths are going to alter their unis too. They should. They should, the Flying Elvis, as Dave Damashek says, should go with Brady, and they should go back to the red and the white.
Starting point is 01:29:14 That'd be great, or that color rush that they wear that you probably wore. The all blue? This guy. Not a fan of the all blue. You don't like that high tower? I like the Hightower jersey, what you're doing with the pant. Yeah, it's got, well, I would just do all blue. Okay.
Starting point is 01:29:28 All right, so let's get to uniforms. We're the weirdest twilight uniform pairings. And we've got honorable mentions here. But I'll let you start because I started with Bill Walton at the top of the show. Okay. Naturally, we'll do our top seven because that's... Yeah, seven is a good number. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:29:47 Yeah, at seven I have... Seven is a touchdown. That's how many points of touchdown, an extra point count for it. With extra point. Football pot. Yeah. Brett Fav is my number seven. You can see him here in the New York Jets green
Starting point is 01:29:58 and the Minnesota Vikings purple. Not to be confused with the Green Bay Packers. Green and yellow, which you wore for a long time. This was V. jarring. The, what I need for something to make this list is a player who is synonymous with a franchise,
Starting point is 01:30:21 one franchise, and then you have the late career move where you're saying, golly day, it would have been a whole lot cooler, in my opinion, if you had stayed with the same franchise the entire time.
Starting point is 01:30:34 And I know players and franchises get to impasses, some get cut and it's out of their control. But Favre was a shocker. Shock the system. It did. It was a real shocker. Number six. No, wait, can I talk,
Starting point is 01:30:50 can I talk? Can I say something? Yeah. I didn't think this was that weird, and I did see your selections beforehand. I didn't think it was that weird because he performed well in both places, especially in Minnesota.
Starting point is 01:31:02 So it took some of the edge off. It was less of a sad story. He was like, he went to New York, hey, listen, I remember we went to play the Jets and they told me, hey, if you sack Brett Farr, if you're the first father-son,
Starting point is 01:31:14 combo to sack the same player. Wow. We lost 40 to nothing, so there weren't a lot of drop-back pass, is there. And I was young in my career. They still were pretty good with him there. They were great with him in Minnesota. Save for a bad decision in the NFC championship, they're probably going to the Super Bowl. Yep. Six Carl Malone in that flashy L.A. Laker yellow. The mailman belongs in Utah with John Stockton for the rest of time. That was a hilarious team. Yeah, who else
Starting point is 01:31:49 was on that team. Gary Payton. Yep. And then they ran it back with the zombie team with Steve Nash and Dwight Howard at a later time. Not to be confused with this iteration of the Lakers and Dwight Howard. But Carl Malone, man,
Starting point is 01:32:04 I'm going to be saying the same thing over and over, synonymous with one franchise. Also very synonymous culturally with the Utah region. Cowboy hats. Just really leaned into that thing, pull out. Carl Malone. from Louisiana.
Starting point is 01:32:20 Yep. So he went from the bayou to the high desert in the mountains, and he just thrived, you know, beating people up, threatening to beat people up, shooting guns. Then over to La La Land. And then to L.A., where that's more frowned upon. Number five, Joe Montania,
Starting point is 01:32:42 I remember this well. And did you see what I've done here? I've put them next to Steve Young. Yeah, if you're watching on YouTube.com. next to Steve Young in the Niners' Uni. Montana, I have this memory of his thinking about or opting not to or not being able to get. I can't imagine he wasn't able to get,
Starting point is 01:33:03 but not wearing the number 16 in Kansas City, sort of leaving it behind in San Francisco. Everything about that is weird. Do you remember how they fared those two years, though? It's a rhetorical question. They were in the playoffs both years. AFC championship one of the years. So for me, like...
Starting point is 01:33:24 For you, if you do well, it's okay, huh? If you do well, it softens the blow to me. And then also, like, the Chiefs were kind of an iconic franchise. The color scheme's not too far off, so he's a red team. Had he been playing in Miami for the dolphins in obscurity, I'd be even more weirded out. But I also remember playing with him in the video game in Madden in, like, 93 or 94, like, that was kind of an interesting.
Starting point is 01:33:48 thing. Like, oh, I can play with Joe Montana. This wasn't, you couldn't just create your own teams back in the day. Number four, Patrick Ewing, seen here with the Seattle Supersonics. You know it's a big going against the Knicks. You know it's a big deal when today in 2020, I pull this up and I still say, wow. Yeah, dude. You were like, was he on that NBA finals team in 96 or 98 or whatever was? Nah. This was a forgettable 2000, 2001. Yeah, one year in Seattle, followed by one year in Orlando after being with the Knicks from 85 to 2000. Really odd.
Starting point is 01:34:27 And you just tell how much people love the game to leave after 15 years with one franchise to go prove something. I guess the checks are good too, though. Yeah, 13 a game for Seattle and 15.6 for Orlando when he retired. He was still balling. Game started for Orlando four. Another big man to talk about, and I don't think he's on your list here,
Starting point is 01:34:49 and no, he's not, Hakeem in Toronto. Oh, yeah. Or Charles Oakley in Toronto, for that matter. Yeah, Hakeem and Toronto is worthy of this list. For sure. Didn't even remember it, to be honest. You know what those uniforms remind me of? Those Sonics uniforms remind me of.
Starting point is 01:35:05 And I like the Debt Left Shremps the best. But I also like those, because back in the day, used to like the Sonics, because Frank Prakowski was on there. Buddy of my dad's guy grew up hanging out with, still a good friend to this day. got ejected from the game, got into it with Rodman in the finals, the guy with the military cut,
Starting point is 01:35:26 awesome dude, was a really good player for a long time and bounced around, but I used to watch those games, and that was the year when on Gatorade bottles, they had the caps. Do you remember the caps? Yeah. And everybody wanted to get bowls and six.
Starting point is 01:35:40 Yeah. I remember that well because our good friend, Ali Swanson, stole my cap. Yeah, you maintained that to this day. Yeah, he stole my cap. batting practice. He says he doesn't remember. Yeah, he had Bulls and 6.
Starting point is 01:35:52 And what you did, if you got Bulls and 6, or any competitive team, but you knew it was probably going to be the Bulls, you got like a Gatorade towel in the mail. So that was a big deal. Yeah, it's like when we were all beginning to realize how serious coronavirus was a couple weeks ago. And they had literal families with their babies crawling on the floor of the ACC tournament in a baby race to win a backpack.
Starting point is 01:36:23 Yeah, you know what? That's a little bit more misguided than collecting Gatorade Caps, but the juice is not worth the squeeze. Correct, nice. Okay, so you're at number three. My number three is Junior Griffey. I'm glad I got that out last time I tried to say that on this pot. I said Junior Gherphy.
Starting point is 01:36:40 And I just thought that the Seattle Mariner, King Griffey Jr., number 24, was, awesome, the tops, amazing. And then he goes to Sinci where he wore the number three, he also wore the number 30, he later goes to the White Sox. It was just very off-putting for me.
Starting point is 01:37:03 Have you heard him in the booth? No, I don't think so. It's interesting. It's interesting to hear his voice. He's one of those guys who played in an era where he didn't hear God's voices. And then, like, by the way, he's aged terrifically.
Starting point is 01:37:15 But the White Sox, I was going to ask you, if you remember him in the White Sox. I think a lot of people remember the Reds. Some people might not remember him at Comiskey. Yeah. And what I tried to do here was the first jersey after the one we remember. Okay.
Starting point is 01:37:31 My number two is Michael Jordan, seen here on YouTube, we can play against the Chicago Bulls. I did it again. Yeah. What can you say? I wasn't a Bulls fan. I wasn't, I was an MJ fan. fan, I guess.
Starting point is 01:37:49 But no matter, you just, you want him to stay in the same place. And he didn't. Yeah, you know what? For me, I think that the Jordan with the Wizards thing has been so inflammatory for people our age that the sting wore off.
Starting point is 01:38:04 I agree with you. I agree with you. But it's hard to not. When you're the goat. Yeah. Kind of like perhaps what Mr. Brady's facing here. I think it's a little bit different. I think Brady's going to be more competitive
Starting point is 01:38:15 than Mike was in Washington. and the team might be as well. Why did Tom title the tweet Forever a Patriot? As I grab my mobile and read it, I was like, oh, of course. It's a good question, because now you can get down there and Bruce Ariens is gonna be like, what team do you play for in front of the locker room?
Starting point is 01:38:31 He's gonna be like, yeah. I mean, I'm currently on the bucks, but I'm forever a Patriot. Yeah. Not gonna play so well in the locker room. That might have been the lead. By the way, shout out to Pat's fans. I got my Patriots pants on.
Starting point is 01:38:45 Oh, cool. Yeah. That looks like a sweat pant. Yeah, uh-huh, I got those when I played for the Patriots. Nice. Number one for you. Hall of Famer who played for the Cowboys for a long time. This shocked my system to the core.
Starting point is 01:39:00 You don't remember this? Emmett Smith. What do you mean I don't remember this? This is Emmett Smith in the bright red Arizona Cardinals. Very bright. For which he played two years. The picture, if you're on YouTube.com, looks like a commercial, like an ad.
Starting point is 01:39:17 And he just knows he's wearing the wrong uniform. He knows. He knows he's done something wrong. Get that check. Emmett, Cowboy from 90 through 2002 and then gets a couple checks with the Cardinals. Post-Y2K was playing football. Super weird, playing football in the desert,
Starting point is 01:39:36 probably running a 4-8 at that point. Yeah, when we were in college, insane. For the Arizona Cardinals, yeah. Wow. Okay, so that's your list. That's a good list. Aplaus.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Thank you. Okay, my number seven, this is not one that looks that weird because it's fairly recent, but I think the nature of wearing two division rival uniforms at the end of your career is super weird. It's Andre Johnson. And that's him in Indy and Tennessee. I think it looks even weirder in Tennessee. Agreed just because of the uni. Big target receiver in Tennessee.
Starting point is 01:40:14 you had shout out to Kenny Britt who wore the powder blue as a big guy out on the edge also now you've got what's his name I haven't been doing football in Davis Davis is that the huh what the fuck is the guy's name? Brown Brown Brown that sounds right
Starting point is 01:40:37 what can Brown do for you he can do a lot he can do a lot he can do a lot big targets that one not as iconic because he was at the end of his career. But two division rivals. So Houston Texans, a good uni.
Starting point is 01:40:54 I need to bring this up quickly. You think? Yes. DeAndre Hopkins, low-key, the Arizona Cardinals today have the worst uniforms in the league. Higher than low-key. Now, they don't have the worst. The worst in pending Tampa Bay.
Starting point is 01:41:11 if they went back to the Pat Tillman's and threw DeAndre Hopkins in those fine i even think they with the arizona somewhere else but yeah flag the sun yeah oh yep swag and uh dandre hopkins and with kiler murray and christian kirk swag and drake is going to be that's going to be too cool swag they're not even going to let me in that city is so much swag right friend of the program sat next to de hop as i call him at the uh the n-n-nfell honor Cool. I call him Nuke. Yeah, nuke, yeah. Number six, I've got the Minister of Defense in Carolina.
Starting point is 01:41:50 Reggie White in Carolina, the picture. I did your thing. He's tapping Brett Farve on the helmet. Old buddy, yeah, I'm in Carolina, finishing my career. I don't know what made him do it. He still was playing pretty well. He had almost six sacks. He had five and a half sacks that year.
Starting point is 01:42:08 But he did it, and I was a big Panthers fan. you remember growing up, forgot about that until today. Yeah. Yeah, forgot about it. Number five, this is a weird one for me. This was one that I completely forgot about as well. It's Randall Cunningham in a Dallas Cowboys uniform. V Strange, on my list as well.
Starting point is 01:42:29 V Strange, also those uniforms not synonymous with greatness. Nor really with the Cowboys. They rarely wear them for good reason. Yep, they're like the early Tony Ramos. Well, and they try to wear white every single week. Yep. And a couple teams. But you know, you play in Philly for 11 years and then you end up in Dallas and I'm like,
Starting point is 01:42:51 when was this? This is Randall Cunningham again, playing football post-Y2K. Make it make sense. And when he played for the Eagles, Philly, go back to those. Oh, go back to those uniforms and a heartbeat. Number four is one that made me sad, partially because I know this guy's in bad shape physically. One of the best backs of all time. Houston Oil are great. Earl Campbell also played New Orleans and it does not look like Earl Campbell if you're watching on YouTube.com.
Starting point is 01:43:20 Nope. It looks like, you know, if Earl Campbell didn't have a Snickers. Right. He's in a cloud of New York Giants. Bad uniform. The Giants are just, the Giants are just giving him the big. business right now in this picture. And he's wearing black pants, white top, not a great uniform, especially back when he was playing. And I don't think the Saints were very good there. And that's what makes that so sad is you've got a guy who didn't play in Houston. I mean, this is a guy who's reduced to like a wheelchair now. I think he took such a beating in Houston and playing running back back in that era. The shelf life wasn't long. He wasn't in Houston as long as you think. Five, six years finished his career in a Saints uniform. Super Bowl.
Starting point is 01:44:07 Super weird. Also want to enter into the conversation here, running backs, ending up somewhere else. E. Dick, Eric Dickerson in Atlanta. Atlanta, yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:17 Running high as a mug. If you look at those pictures, E. Dick is like six foot five running. Because he's older, that AstroTurf hurts. He played his whole career in sunny California. He also played somewhere else as well. I'm forgetting,
Starting point is 01:44:35 it's escaping me, but Atlanta was the bitter end. E. Dick was a ram, a colt. A rater. A raider was the weird one. A falcon. Okay, so my number four was Earl Campbell. My number three is going to be Gordy Howe with the whalers looking like he missed the cut for a Cialis commercial.
Starting point is 01:44:58 Like, he's 52 in this picture, which is ridiculous that you're playing a sport like that. Again, not a contact sport, a collision sport. and I'm pretty sure they weren't wearing helmets back then. This just looks ridiculous. Why are you out there? What are you doing? I know you love the puck, but you're 52 and you're playing for the whalers.
Starting point is 01:45:19 You see that there's an H in that negative space with the whale tail. It's one of the best logos. HW. Beautiful. I love the whalers getups, which are no longer in existence. Number two, this is one that blew my mind.
Starting point is 01:45:34 Franco Harris. Do you remember where he played? Pittsburgh. Seattle is where he finished his career. Franco Harris. With some evergreens there in the background. Yeah, just hanging out probably by the facility. It looks beautiful right there by the Puget Sound.
Starting point is 01:45:51 And those uniforms, those Steve Largents are magnificent. But he played, okay, Franco Harris and Seahawks uniform. It definitely looks like a Halloween costume. it's definitely out of this world. 1984, he was released after contract dispute. He needed 300 or so yards to become the leading NFL Russia at the time, ended up
Starting point is 01:46:13 with 170 and was cut in eight games. By the way, Franco Harris, one of the nicest dudes I've met that were Hall of Famers. Super cool. So you can check that one off. Yeah, 12,120 career yards, 170 that year in Seattle. Such a nice dude.
Starting point is 01:46:32 It's a good call. by you. Terrible. Not a terrible uniform. It's a great uniform, but it just, I never knew what happened. Number one, it's going to throw you for a loop here. This is somebody who is in the ring, so to speak.
Starting point is 01:46:47 Okay. Kane. Changing uniforms. That's quite the chain. And running for mayor of like Knox County or something, like Knoxville. I don't know if you can. be a mayor of a county. You can, yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:05 He is mayor of Knox County. Yep. Knox County. You know, smiling with a microphone in his hand. Going from looking like Hannibal Lecter wearing what it's either pizza or somebody's flesh on his face. Just this big, smelly-looking demon to a guy in a suit that looks like you'd love to have a beer with him and talk about policy. Seven foot, 323.
Starting point is 01:47:32 Glenn Thomas Jacobs, aka Kane. A.k.a. Born in Spain. Was he? Yeah. I knew he was worldly and cultured. Honorable mentions here, you got Bruce Smith in Washington, who you brought up, Hakeem in Toronto,
Starting point is 01:47:47 and that came up. Robert Parrish, you brought up in Chicago. What about Robert Parris and Charlotte? Yeah, both very strange. The chief is a Celtic. Yeah. You know what they call him the chief? Why?
Starting point is 01:48:00 Is that right? That's the rumor. Ray Bork. you brought that one up, the Aves, Jerry Rice in Seattle. Yeah, and those uni's were just awful. Abhorrent. He really, he did that Northwest tour. Tour, did the Raiders, did the Seahawks after his illustrious career.
Starting point is 01:48:24 Lastly, Tony Parker in Charlotte, not even good uniforms. You play your whole career somewhere as iconic as San Antonio. Antonio, you end up in Charlotte to finish it out and those weird like Jordan Brand cartoon unis. Bring the pinstripes back. Give me the mugsy bows. The Tony Bennett's. Give me the grandma, ma's.
Starting point is 01:48:52 Yeah. Yeah. And then I also mentioned Joe Namath, which makes who makes all these lists, but I didn't really, you know. Yeah, yeah. You think he's a jet and the Ram uni looks weird? It looks weird.
Starting point is 01:49:06 His face mask looks really weird if you look it up. Wasn't really around for it. And then Dominique Wilkins apparently had a stint with the boss in Celtics. Which is crazy. Ronnie Lott with the Jets. Really weird looking. And at that point, the Jets fits looked like CAY, YFL.
Starting point is 01:49:21 That's Charlottesville Area Youth Football League. I believe that's the acronym. Just pulled that out of my ass. I didn't play in that particular league. Yeah, you probably didn't make weight the other way. Yeah. Yeah, Shaq played on weird teams, Robben with Dallas.
Starting point is 01:49:35 You got a bunch. We can go on for days. Wayne Gretzky, St. Louis Blues. And those blues. Vibrant. Vibrant, those uniforms, those sweaters, the jackets,
Starting point is 01:49:47 as they call them. Blues'unis are awesome. Oh, no. In general. I'm sorry, no. Wow. Yeah. Well, that's for another day.
Starting point is 01:49:58 There are some old blues, which have more of a Carolina blue to them. All right. Okay. But we'll, yeah, we'll talk about St. I don't know it was blues another time. So anyways, it was a packed show. But I thought it's one of our best shows.
Starting point is 01:50:10 Yeah. Well, who knows, you know? Let the people decide. I might be in a good move, but I think it's one of our best shows, okay? Great. So y'all, uh, y'all make sure you take care out there. We didn't ask for the pandemic. We're certainly hoping that people stay safe, stay home,
Starting point is 01:50:26 uh, continue to socially distance. If you can, limit your contact with people. But I will say that we will thrive in the pandemic because we, are like fucking encyclopedias of rank worthy stuff that's right and we'll be here thoughts virtually i am going to do something uh with your voicemails that i promised that i would do we've run out of time i'm going to release a separate um kind of q and a response to your little voicemails a lot of you were pretty fucked up y'all take care bye

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