Green Light with Chris Long - Ep. 34 - Jay Glazer Joins to Break VERY Big News and Talk Aldon Smith.

Episode Date: April 16, 2020

0:49 - Macon and Chris Catch Up. 3:55 - Macon’s Pavlov Experiment. 12:37 - Chris and Macon’s #34s. 27:10 - Jay Glazer’s VERY Big News. 40:10 - Brian Allen’s Conversation with Jay Glazer. 49:06... - Jay Glazer MVP Foundation. 57:30 - Chris and Jay on Aldon Smith. Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. 🌍🏀🏈SUBSCRIBE NOW ⚾🏒⛰️ http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Let's talk about your morning. How has it been waking up? How's it been waking up ratio, Jay? What's that mean? Raciote is a thing where if you tweet something and you get more replies than you do retweets, it's generally bad. Oh, really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:16 You haven't checked your Twitter, have you? Oh, I've seen it off. Hey, man. Whatever. Hey, so here's what happened yesterday. Yeah, talk to me about this. Welcome to episode 34. proper of the Greenlight Pod, I am joined by my esteemed co-host pre-pandemic, post-pandemic, mid-pandemic,
Starting point is 00:01:02 my support system, my friend, my virtual co-host, Making Gunner. It's great to be back with you, Chris. Thank you. Thanks for that warm welcome. I like, I really appreciate being called a co-host when I think I'm on about 7% of the content. these days. You are a machine, my friend. Yeah, the big green machine. I'm reading about you on the ticker on the ESPN TV channel. I'm reading about you on the internet and taking some offense that your co-host wasn't
Starting point is 00:01:43 mentioned in any of these stories. I know, I saw that. It would have been a good plug to get you in the ESPN.com. We'll have to do something noteworthy today. Maybe Jay will do that for you. Maybe Jay will do it. We're going to have Jay Glazer on today, and that's going to take up most of the show. Jay broke some news in a way.
Starting point is 00:02:02 It'll be interesting to see what he says. I mean, I haven't heard the context around it. I do know that he feels it was a bit miscommunicated. I wouldn't have broke it that way, but we'll see what he says. Yeah, looking forward to it. He certainly has been trending for the better part of 36 hours at this point. Some really solid mentions under his tweet. If you can go scroll through those, they're a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Somebody said, I stayed up late to hear the news, and now I may oversleep and get fired for my job tomorrow. Thanks, Jay. That sums it up. There's a lot of that. People are having fun with Jay. But I know Jay as being a guy who does things the right way, so I'm sure he's got an explanation for what some people would consider to look,
Starting point is 00:02:50 look like fuckery. Headline being his breaking news, the subject of his breaking news seems to be getting better. So that's the main takeaway. Let's not bury the lead. Although I do wonder, and I'll ask him this, don't you think
Starting point is 00:03:07 if it was Tom Brady that he was reporting on, nobody would take issue with him reporting the news in this way? 100%. I mean, it's like, hey, guy, you've wasted our time. We thought this was going to be huge. I've never heard of this player.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Yeah, if it's Brady, everybody's like, wow. That is big news. Thank you, Jay. Glaze bomb. Yes. Agreed. You're right. That's kind of screwed up.
Starting point is 00:03:36 But on the other end of things I see, you know, I think the thing I want to ask him is, did Alan, the kid he's breaking the news about, was he in on the breaking of this news? If he was, and that's how he wanted it broken, And I don't see issue with teasing it for 24 hours. I think it was part of a show. So you got any personal news for me before we get into our 34s?
Starting point is 00:04:00 Heck yeah, I just got to decide what to use. The kid across the street. So the kid across the street is probably 16 years old. It seems to be a nice kid. But he has a skateboard. And he doesn't use it as a mode of transportation. He uses it to stand on and then do some little jump flip thing and then it crashes to the ground every six to seven seconds for multiple hours out of the day. And it drives me insane.
Starting point is 00:04:33 So what I have decided to do is a little Pavlovian deal. You're familiar with Pavlov. Yeah, Pavlov's dog, I believe it is. Yeah. So I give them a couple hours. Have fun. Get your exercise. when it's like dinner time
Starting point is 00:04:49 and my lovely wife, Kate and I want to sit down and have a nice peaceful meal. Every time he crashes the skateboard to the ground and it makes a big noise, I hit the lock button on my vehicle and the horn beat. And so every time he makes an annoying noise with his skateboard,
Starting point is 00:05:09 he hears a car horn. And he always, I watch him and he looks over. Last night he looked over like seven in a row. And I think he kind of got it. Like it wasn't like what's going on over there, but he sat down on the front step, looked at his phone as a teenager as want to do.
Starting point is 00:05:25 And then eventually he went inside. So that was day one. We'll see what happens this afternoon. We went in the battle. I feel good about that. I feel better about that. Your mustache. That's a big win.
Starting point is 00:05:35 Thank you. So yeah. As a teenager terrorizes me, I'm going to be the crotchy old man across the street doing the same. Why don't you just go sit next to him one day without saying anything? I'll probably think you're a cop at first. But then after he gets over that, he'll realize that you're the guy from Greenlight Pod,
Starting point is 00:05:55 and he'll probably just stop because you ask him to. Yeah. Kid, if you are watching or listening right now, please can you do it at the rear of your domicile as opposed to the front or maybe just for half hour a day? Get an edge of catch. Get, you know, watch Netflix. Read a book. Make up knitting.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Yeah. Yeah, that sounds massively disruptive. It is. It has been. Luke Wong, my one-year-old son, ate a stink bug this morning. Eight-one. Yeah, eight-a live stink bug.
Starting point is 00:06:34 Wow. How is you doing now? He's fine. His breath literally stunked for five to seven minutes, I'm told. and I think that is the ultimate, hey, dad, like, I fucking mean business right now during this quarantine. Like, and if you don't go to goldfish or some crackers, I'm going to just eat stink bugs around this house.
Starting point is 00:06:59 It means business for the rest of the quarantine or maybe for the rest of his life. Like, maybe he's just gangster. He might be gangster. And from here on out, I'm going to, his new nickname is stinkbug. And it's going to stick. It's going to stick. It's just got a ring to it.
Starting point is 00:07:15 So that's my local news from here about four miles away from you. Yeah. He was unfazed, though. It wasn't like he just got a little protein. Yeah, just a little protein. He's been watching, like, Lesteroud and Bear Grills eat bugs in the woods or something at night on Wayland's iPad. Are you binging anything?
Starting point is 00:07:38 Yeah, wrapping some stuff up. Kate and I do Better Call Fall after dinner. We're nearly current. And then I stay up later. And that's when I watch my guilty pleasure of Silicon Valley, which is on HBO. Pretty funny, a bit lowbrow, bit repetitive, the formula they have going on there. Mike Judge show. Very enjoyable.
Starting point is 00:08:09 wrapping that up. I think next would be Ozart for Kate and me. Wait, you all not started that season. Nah. I haven't started it at all. A lot of blood. Okay. I can do that. Violent show. Taking suggestions for my late night. They can maybe bury the Bill Hater joint.
Starting point is 00:08:32 Might roll through the curb. Just knock that out quickly. Yep. That's what I need to do as well. you yeah you benjamin uh i just finished ozark uh and i'm trying to do this thing called call of duty which um it's a video game the kids are playing i used to play it when i was younger uh and evidently it's much different i took a couple years off uh what i've realized now is that playing a video game in 2020 is a fucking process it's like it's like uh making jailhouse hooch or something it's going to take a few days like you have to download one thing and then you have to download
Starting point is 00:09:08 another thing and you start the game and you realize you need another download. So the other night my brother Howie hit me up and wanted to play with me. He said, well, are you getting my friend request? And I said, yeah, man, I'm not getting your friend request. This thing has frustrated me all week. I've been sitting through downloads, etc. He said, take a picture of your screen. He goes, I don't recognize that map on the game, which is where you play team death match or whatever.
Starting point is 00:09:33 And I go, dude, I'm in the game. I've got the game on the whole nine yards. He goes back out of your thing and take a picture of the background of your your home page. I had been playing three call of duties ago for five days. I spent three days downloading it, two days perfecting my craft. My kill-death ratio was up, but I was playing two, three call of duties ago. The call of duty I'm playing came out in 2018. So that's been kind of what I've been doing.
Starting point is 00:10:02 I've been Ozark. I obviously, I'm looking forward to the Michael Jordan thing. It comes out someday. We've got the draft. Content is picking up. And I guess I'll get through curve. So that's what I got on the docket. Yeah, you remember that league we had back when we were in high school,
Starting point is 00:10:20 mostly at your parents' basement, some of my parents' basement, but we had the NCAA football, and then somehow we did a tournament with hoop too. I don't know if we did best of three or best of five. I think you were K-State. Yeah, Kansas State was my team. So essentially we had to pick a college and stick with them in football and basketball. So we would play the basketball game and the football game. And I think we arrived at some sort of solution on how we would pick the winner.
Starting point is 00:10:48 I think it was like two out of three. But it was like a tournament. We had like eight dudes down there playing basketball, football. Maybe we need to restart that thing. Yeah, we might. I was Notre Dame, which I don't feel great about. They had a guard back in that probably 0-3-0-4 season. Do you remember who won that league, our league?
Starting point is 00:11:11 I don't. Frisky. Scott Frisky. Shout up to Scott Frisky, the Air Force. To come the hardware. Yeah, who was he? Do you remember? Yeah, I do for some reason, NC State.
Starting point is 00:11:25 Golly. Now it's all coming back. That was the glitchiest basketball game. But we love it. Yeah. We love them. And I used to, I used to take Darren Sprouls, put him out at, I think I put him at X and just run go routes. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I've seen. Triangle up. Triangle, triangle up. Hot route. Hot route. I've seen clips of our friend Dan Kat playing NCAA football 14. And I'm like, okay, man, that does look fun.
Starting point is 00:11:55 And then I thought about us plan it. And we were 10 years prior, Arbor. I mean, it must look awful. Oh, it looks awful. And by the way, I stopped into Dan's stream last night to see what all the hype was about. And Dan is amazingly entertaining because how could you have 30,000 people watching you play NCAA 2014? I mean, just watching the chat, there was too much to keep up with. I sat there and I wondered why the graphics looked so suspect. I mean, I guess the game's six years old.
Starting point is 00:12:27 I had no idea. Big loss for Dan. So prayers to his program. Rambling Rack. Yeah, Rambling Rack took him out. So this is episode 34. And today I have a video to preface my selection. I love football and I love relaxing.
Starting point is 00:12:47 Because for me, relaxing always includes skull. The smokeless tobacco. Just a pinch between my chicken gum gives me great tobacco taste without lighting up. Got to see, the breeze. got my skull. Nothing's going to make me move. Think I'll play some touch. Skull, brother.
Starting point is 00:13:09 Try going smokeless. A pinch is all it takes. Skoll, brother. That's a real ad. That's Earl Campbell, who obviously is very famous for what he did on the football field. But I saw that ad about a month ago. I saw it on Super 70 Sports, which is a Twitter kind of nostalgic account there. And I was blown away. There's a lot going on in that video.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Not only is Earl Campbell, a Skull pitch man, which is wild. That pinch he took was tiny. That looks like a pinch that you would take if I made you dip. Also, skull, chewing tobacco. Is it the best choice when you're playing catch on the beach with babes? That's what was going on in that commercial. Did you say he was playing catch? I thought he said he was going to go play putt.
Starting point is 00:14:00 He said he was playing touch, which could be an issue if that commercial came out today. I think it says a double entendre there, yeah. Wow. Goal comes to you today in 2020 and says, hey, you're our guy. What are you saying? I'm saying nah, strictly because I'm a Kodiak guy, as you might. But I'm also saying nah, because I think it's a bad thing to promote the kids. Like, listen, it's dangerous.
Starting point is 00:14:26 It's not great for you. I dip. I dip once a day. okay, you know, stigma absorbed guys, you can hate me, tobacco user. You know, skull is kind of the brand you dipped when you were in high school. It had all the exotic flavors. If you're a man in your 30s and 40s dipping skull cherry, you might as well just smoke cigarettes that were designed for women.
Starting point is 00:14:53 You know, skull cherry is kind of a novelty thing, although I didn't mind the taste. at the time, I have, I've graduated to being 100% Kodiak. Winner-R-R- Okay. I also, I have, you know, I think, what were the weird skull, the old school flavors? They had some terrible flavors. I tried that in high school, not pouches, I don't think, but school solely because of you. I think my first lip, is that, is that? Yeah, the right thing go.
Starting point is 00:15:27 Yeah. I was on a drive to school where I probably got about five minutes before stopping and throwing up out the side of my car and spitting it out and never partaking again ever. Now I looked up a rancor. I forgot about all these flavors, okay? Skull citrus, scowel berry, scow cherry was the one I actually liked if you were into the exotics. peach people like peach apple um i'm not a big fan of flavored tobacco or liquor although i do like crown apple so i also am a bit of a crown royal pitch man so i would just say you know with earl campbell because that's what we're talking about he wasn't just a great pitch man for skull he was the 1978 uh first pick uh which at that point you made one point four million dollars
Starting point is 00:16:27 on a six-year contract to be the first pick. It's pretty wild. He was a five-time pro bowler, hallfamer, three-time all-pro, and then he had an eight-year career. So if you look back at it, his running style was just exceedingly punishing. And, you know, if anybody remembered, he had 36-inch thighs, bro, like legendary girth. He was 2.45, 511, 2.45, 36 inch size. Essentially, one of the hardest backs I ever had to tackle in the league was Michael Turner. It reminds me of that, but on, you know, I'm not insinuating that he was on steroids, but Michael Turner on steroids. Basically, what's your hip size, make? 33. He's walking around with two making pluses for legs.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Yeah, that's wild. It's ridiculous. Actually, my waist is shrunk to 37 out of four. I used to wear 42-inch draws, as they call them, back when loose clothing was cool. But I truly had like a 40-inch waist. Okay, he had 36-inch thighs. He ran punishing. He only played for eight years.
Starting point is 00:17:54 He was traded to New Orleans, as we mentioned a couple pods ago. that was a weird looking uniform matchup. But he left the game with nothing left. I think when he decided to retire, I read that he was crawling to the bathroom after a preseason game, could not walk to the bathroom. He struggled physically.
Starting point is 00:18:11 He's had knees replace four back surgeries. He had substance abuse problems. But he's doing good now, supposedly. I was reading an article. He does compare current day football to wrestling in that it's fake. I think he's got a bit of nostalgia for the times where you could just run through a motherfucker face, as Marshaun Lynch put it.
Starting point is 00:18:33 And actually, he complimented Marshawn as one of the only running backs that he really likes anymore. He was invited to the Titans Hall of Fame. He declined because he is an oiler. So a man of principal, a man who liked a pinch of skull, and a guy with 36-inch thighs. Great pick. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:52 Love it. Love it. Lot to choose from. Lots to choose from. 34, I mean, gone are the dark days of 26 and 29. We've gone through a nice little run here. Are you ready for mine? I am.
Starting point is 00:19:07 In the 2013 NBA draft, Chris, when Anthony Bennett was selected number one overall, Milwaukee Bucks at number 15, selected Janice Antecoompo. Born December 6, 1994. want to feel old. And your dude was 511, 245. My guy is 611 245. Basketball reference lists his position as power forward and point guard and small forward and shooting guard, which is accurate. Average 30, 14, and 6 this year and was the consensus MVP when the season stopped with the bucks at 53 and 12. Now, I want to read you just a bit from a New York Times article. May 3rd of last year by Peter Goodman.
Starting point is 00:19:58 It is titled, Janice Antecumpo is the pride of a Greece that shunned him. As a son of African immigrants, Ante Tacompo was unwelcome in Athens. Then he showed promise as a basketball star. May I read you a paragraph or two, Chris? Yeah. For most of his life growing up in Greece,
Starting point is 00:20:19 Janus was considered a foreigner. As a son of African immigrants, he was perpetually vulnerable to attacks by racist militants and to threats of deportation to Nigeria, a country he had never visited. His story, the tale of a teenager who could barely dribble, turning himself into one of the Supreme basketball players on the planet, is a source of admiration and joy.
Starting point is 00:20:41 Yet it is also caused for bitter reflection on the enduring discrimination suffered by his community. Many lament that Anta Cumpo's experience has become fodder for a fairy tale about Greek life in which his struggles have been edited out. White people in Greece now embrace Ante Cumpo, claiming him as one of their own, and rebelling in his nickname, the Greek freak, as a cue for flagwaving. They put him on a pedestal to Jackie Abulaminen.
Starting point is 00:21:09 Obviously. The Greek-born daughter of African-born parents, but the same person cheering Janus could swear at me on the road, there's still a very big sense of invisibility of not being recognized. as existing. So this was a story I hadn't really heard about Yonis. You know, you hear Greek Freak, and you assume he has pride for his country, and perhaps he does.
Starting point is 00:21:34 But I wasn't aware of this racial discrimination that he endured throughout his upbringing. So a really cool piece, New York Times, Peter Goodman, search for Yonis' name. You'll find it. Very intriguing. Such a likable superstar, man. I think if you're starting an NBA team right now, he's your first pick. Yeah, which is wild that, you know, with the market he's played in and his personality that he has even recognized at least by many to be the best player in the NBA because it is,
Starting point is 00:22:15 you know, for a common fan. And so, you know, your perception of who the best is is so easily influenced by the marketability of that player. And, you know, it's not throwing shade in anybody else who's playing in L.A. or Houston or something, you know, LeBron is obviously somebody who's in these conversations a lot. Is he any more? Is he not? But Janus seems to be a very popular pick for the best player in the NBA.
Starting point is 00:22:38 And it's fucking crazy to me that he was drafted seven, eight years ago. That's what makes me feel old. Not him being born in 94 or whatever. was the fact that he's been in a league for seven to eight years, that blows me away. That blows me away. Yeah, 2013 draft. Also blowing you away should be the selection of Anthony Bennett. I stand by what I told you a couple weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:23:07 I think GMs are going to miss less in this NFL draft because they're forced to crunch tape. They're not going to be influenced by who's a couple of. a good interview and who's not. They might leave a couple diamonds in the rough on the table from a selection standpoint because you're not going to be able to get out to certain people. But I would agree that it's going to force a hard reset in the way that people do things from a scouting perspective. You know, we also had Bo Jackson here.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Bo Jackson and my dad were buddies. And I can remember Bo Jackson faintly, I can remember him hanging out at our house. sitting at the kitchen table. And to me, this is what was fucked up about growing up in my house. My dad didn't make anything seem like a big deal. So to me, there was just one of his friends over. And I wish he had alerted me that that was Bo Jackson
Starting point is 00:24:00 and alerted me as to how important it was. Thurman Thomas, great one. We've got obviously Walter Payton, second best running back of all time. I don't mean that as a slight, but I love to drive home. I love for Barry Sanders. episode 20 is long gone.
Starting point is 00:24:19 You had Shaq, Ray Allen, Janice, who you selected. Chuck, Chuck would have been a great one. We both know Chuck, friend of the program. I thought you were going there. I thought you'd go, Sir Charles. Yeah, it was a little bit of a curveball for you. Yeah. And in the NHL, obviously, you've got Mika Kuprosoff
Starting point is 00:24:42 and John Van B.S. Brock. I mean, John Van Biesbrook I have in my head pictures, but not the first name. Yeah. Hakeem the Dream, I don't know if you mentioned among the hoopsters. Yep. Paul Pierce, Ray Allen. Nolan Ryan, closest thing to something I changed this selection for. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:06 Because that video of him putting Robin Ventura in a headlock will live forever. Yeah. About Bo, quickly. Raiders Unies and the. those powder blue royals unies. Holy smoke. Yeah, he hit backpot. Elite.
Starting point is 00:25:23 Both elite. Pretty amazing. Now, you know who else did pretty well? I think Brian Jordan, if you remember him, the outfielder slash defensive back, he played in Atlanta in St. Louis. That's a bizarre thing to even think about. Right. Because primetime, prime time was,
Starting point is 00:25:48 was Braves Falcons when he did the Braves deal. But it's not like he was doing Braves Cowboys, I don't believe. No, no, no. Yeah. To be in two separate cities doing pro sport. It's almost like if you were doing commercial and residential real estate. Well, you know, I might have that in my repertoire, Chris. Nice.
Starting point is 00:26:11 You all can keep sending inquiries to my work email address, which many of you have found. I appreciate it. Oh, people have found your work email address? That's right. Have you gotten some weird, have you any pod groupies or weird stalkerish people? I've actually gotten some cool stuff that I've passed along to you. Some, hey, check out this band sort of stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:36 It's not all bad. guy who said, hey, this is stuff I make. You might want to think about it for closing gift. It was beautiful art. So, hey, keep it coming. So without further ado, this is episode 34. It is great to be joined by Makin because the Zoom capabilities, me and Jay are going to go mono, e-mono,
Starting point is 00:26:59 and I'm going to press the fuck out of him about his ethical responsibility to break the news like an adult. Hard-hitting stuff. Jay Glazer, let's get them along. Joining me now, the man of the hour, the 11 o'clock hour, to be specific. Jay Glazer. Jay, yesterday you broke news that the NFL season will be suspended indefinitely. No, wait, it was just that one person had correct. No, I did not do that. Yeah, that's what you do.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Hey, what kind of background you got going over there? It's green, bro. Is it 420? No, every day is 420, buddy. Here's the thing about 420 and people being posted. Is there this, it's like a high school thing to say, hey, 420, I'm going to go smoke weed. Like, people who actually, well, let me not, let me not, Kashmar. I suck a weed, man.
Starting point is 00:27:49 So I'm, I suck at it. I wish I was doing. I got my guy, Wiz Khalif is gin over here because he trains with us. He does not suck at it. And he goes in and trains, like, those guys can't train without it. And I don't get it. I don't understand how they do it, man. I had one time.
Starting point is 00:28:07 I never would do anything athletic. with it. I was never like a, you know, I needed it to lift or run or any of that stuff. But enough about me, Jay. Wait, wait, dude, dude, they convinced me one time. Like, Jay, we're telling you. Just try it and your training session would be the best session you've ever had. So I'm like, like, it'll relax you. And I do like CBD for my joint pain better than other stuff I was using for joint pain, which my body's been beat up over the years. I started this, you know, whole wrestling animation in 1982.
Starting point is 00:28:39 So I've been, I'm missing a few discs. So, you know, I was like, I'll try it, you know, fine, if I try it one time, okay, and I start,
Starting point is 00:28:47 blah, I start, you know, doing my midst with her, and I'm like, wow, these guys are right. This is unreal.
Starting point is 00:28:52 This is fantastic. And I look around, I turn around, I see the clock, I'm like, there's only 12 seconds, God? Yeah,
Starting point is 00:28:58 my God. Things move slower. Oh, my God. This is the worst. experience my life. And that's why I can't podcast high because I lose all concept of time and then I
Starting point is 00:29:12 find myself not knowing what the fuck I'm talking about which is also a problem. But again, enough about me. Let's talk about your morning. How has it been waking up? How's it been waking up ratio Jay? What's that mean? Rationode is a thing
Starting point is 00:29:28 where if you tweet something and you get more replies than you do retweets is generally bad. Really? Yeah. You haven't checked your Twitter, have you? Oh, I've seen it off. Hey, man.
Starting point is 00:29:41 Whatever. Hey. So here's what happened yesterday. Yeah, talk to me about that. So here's what happened. So I go on the other night because I'm doing the show for Fox, you know, Fox Football Now, which we're trying to do, and I wanted to do to help stay socially connect. You know, one of the things we had at MVP, we're trying to say, physically distance,
Starting point is 00:29:58 socially connected. I wanted to help change the narrative, which we help, I think, do a little bit because being socially distance isn't good. And that's not really what we're trying to do. Physically distance is what you need to do. But we've got to stay connected. So that's why we're trying to do this show is to give people, you know, more of a release and then escape there.
Starting point is 00:30:18 So I'm on Fox Sports Radio the other night. And we're talking about the show. And I'm about to promote that out of Sean McBey on and Jonathan Taylor from Wisconsin, who's a stud. And one of our MVP combat, we're doing a hero of the week. I think John Fulmer has an incredible story. And the guys are joking around. So I'm trying to say, wait, no, guys, this is, this is serious.
Starting point is 00:30:37 I have something serious tomorrow night. And they're joking around and I'm trying to be like, no, guys, there's something serious. Like I have legit breaking news tomorrow night, but it's serious. Well, they then pulled that out and just say, I big breaking news tomorrow night. It's serious. So when you put that out alone, it's like, hey, hey, hey, look at me. I've got this, but that's not how it was. Well, I go to bed.
Starting point is 00:31:02 I wake up the next morning. and there is basically 32 teams. What's the big breaking news? I got guys like from Lorenzo O'Neill with George Kittle players, right, the spectrum of guys, from owners to head coaches, the GM to coaching guys.
Starting point is 00:31:19 And I'm like, what are these people talking about? Right. Like, what's going on? So then I was like, oh, my God, this is unreal. I went to be trained. I still trained just to my home gym over here.
Starting point is 00:31:31 And it just started taking on a life So I tweeted out, no, hey guys, my news is not transactional. It's not a player signing or a trade. But everybody just ignored that. Right. And they're like, oh, my God, this guy, once you get, people started to, ESPN Milwaukee did a poll question. What's my big breaking news? My point was, I was putting out national news. It is. A player testing positive and having the virus for the first time that we know is national news. I meant it literally. Like I have national news, not like, oh my God, I have this big break in it. Yeah, you could look at it like a couple ways.
Starting point is 00:32:10 I could definitely see why some people are dragging you, and you're my boy. So, like, I can see why the way it looks, but the way you explain it is quite different, the context of how you're saying it. Like, hey, you're joking around with your friends. You're like, hey, no, no, this is serious. And that's the problem with quotes.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And I don't think a lot of people realize, myself included, that you had tweeted in the intermediate time period to try to diffuse that situation. Now, the question I would have, you're a jog off too, then. Huh? You're just to jog off also. I know I am, but I'm an investigative journalist, so let's get to... Oh, you are.
Starting point is 00:32:45 Yeah. Yeah. So my, I guess the people would probably ask if, you know, having said all that, why hold it for a day? You were holding it because of the show. Well, that's the thing. I work at Fox, dude. We've got to work for Twitter.
Starting point is 00:33:00 And I also, like, ESPN and NFL Network, there are an immediate thing. So Fox NFL Sunday, I break news for Fox NFL Sunday. If I hear something on a Tuesday, I wait to break it on Fox NFL Sunday. That's what I'm hoping for. My show aired last night. But also, when I talked to Brian Allen about it, it was to air on the show. Right? That's what we agreed upon, that I would air it on the show.
Starting point is 00:33:28 and then I would write out an interview later on. Yeah, that's the thing is, okay, so that makes sense. If Brian and you had talked about it, there's some people that are imagining that you're scooping him and just breaking a story. No, no, no, no, well, that's continue. I came on with, I talked to Brian Allen, and he was telling me his symptoms.
Starting point is 00:33:47 By the way, symptoms were pretty drastic. He said that he actually lost all sense of smell to the point where you'd do smell. smelling salts, nothing. Now, smelling salts is what we use when we get knocked out in fights. Right. Right. And that didn't make a dent.
Starting point is 00:34:05 And then he said that doctors are telling them, like, it's not going to return for like six to eight months. But then another doctor said this. He goes, so they don't really know what they're telling them. Then he lost all sense of taste where he has nothing. Nothing. He only feels texture of food. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:24 But also, I wanted to get this story out to show. that he has asthma. So he was nervous. So I wanted to show that he had this and came through the other side. But because everybody wanted this story to be, O'Dell getting traded to the Vikings, which ain't happening unless that was fake. That was fake news.
Starting point is 00:34:44 Was it not? Very, very, very, very fake. Yes. So that's the other reason. I don't hate it. I did a whole, I did a page of notes on it thinking it was real for a solid hour yesterday. And I actually don't hate it for either team.
Starting point is 00:34:55 No, there's so many players in this draft. receiver-wise, you don't even think I'm salary like that. If I'm Cleveland, that's what makes that trade hypothetically. Absolutely, but not for the Vikings. I'm talking about that. Not to the Vikings. You know where I want to see as a sidebar, O'Dell, one place before he retires or hangs it up or whatever, would be with a quarterback with a strong established personality
Starting point is 00:35:19 quarterback, like an Aaron Rogers. No, he does have one. He has one. Baker Baker isn't that much that way yet. I really like Baker. personality, strong personality. Is he the alpha in that, in that, in that relationship?
Starting point is 00:35:33 I don't think anybody's an alpha in a relationship with Odell. Look, I love Odell. I've trained, I've trained O'Dell. But O'Dell is, O'Dell's a brand. And O'Dell's going to do what O'Dell wants to do no matter what. You know, and everybody's trying to take O'Dell under the ring and you want to
Starting point is 00:35:49 because he's such a, he's such a likable dude. And he works his butt off. but he's going to do what he wants to do. And he's going to kind of listen to the last guy he talked with. So you'll make a dent when you talk to him. That person talks to him that person talks to him. He'll make a dent too.
Starting point is 00:36:06 He does. He does listening to everybody. And that's part of what makes him great, but part of the problem, too, is because he looks at everybody. Right. You can be influenced. But listen, when he was in New York, everybody loved him. I think this whole narrative started and, you know, it just. They got a little tired.
Starting point is 00:36:23 They got a little tired. The players out of him, too, loved him as a team. teammate. Oh, they do. Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure upstairs the guitar, but they got tired of me.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Let's get back. I'm a fucking angel. Hold on. Jay, hold on. Hold on. What you got. Wow. Wow.
Starting point is 00:36:41 What's your news. Breaking news. Skinny Pop just arrived at my front door from Amazon. Oh, that's huge. Big national news here, Ginny Pop. For your green room. Yeah, you know what? Let me.
Starting point is 00:36:54 for late at night at your green room. But it is kind of fucked up. It is a serious story. I mean, like, and here's the thing is everyone's now killed. Listen, I didn't hold it. I did this. I did it for a show.
Starting point is 00:37:17 The show was air. I taped it. And the show was airing the next day. Right. So you're not going to break it ahead of the show. I get paid by Fox to do television shows. That's what I get paid for. So I did the show, and then everybody's like,
Starting point is 00:37:31 and I actually called, what am I like, hey, maybe I should get this out earlier. And I'm like, no, it'll be like, you know, that's our job. It's our job for a television show. But I did try to get people understand. This is not a transactional thing. But I think when, you know, look,
Starting point is 00:37:46 my quote was, it is big national news. It is. But I wasn't like, hey, it's big national. I was like, I was trying to get these guys. That's the problem with print. That's the problem with print. Now, I'm not saying I wouldn't have done it differently. I also see your side of saying, like, listen, fuck, I just don't think people that read that.
Starting point is 00:38:04 And again, you don't work for Twitter. They don't hear the context with which it was shared. And also the fact that Brian Allen knows and trust you to break it, how he agreed upon it being broke. By the way, the show is originally going to air on Thursday. We take that Tuesday. Right. And I said, to Fox, you know, let's move it up. a day because it's news that people should know that he came through the other side, which is good.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Because eventually it's going to get to NFL players, right? It had to, just like it did the NBA, right? It had to. So now this is like the first, okay, it's getting through guys now. And, you know, the other part of the story, too, was that, and I think a lot of people maybe have not have known, but facilities were still open for injured players. That was essential. Everybody thinks that all these facility has been totally shut down. They haven't. They've been open for injured players for rehab. It's essential. But when that happened, the Rams immediately had to shut down their facility for all injured players, for everybody. And they're still not open. They're reopening next
Starting point is 00:39:08 week. They had a quarantine. They had to test everything. They had to reclean out the facility. So there was that new story. And look, I don't think anybody's doubting there's a new story. What the problem was is that everybody wanted this to be Cam Newton's side with the Patriots. I think the sick thing and not in a way that like, listen, I get it if people want to drag you for a day and it's funny. But like also what I found out here is that even the people dragging you, they all love you and respect you. So they're like, you know, I don't know that Jay meant to do that or whatever, which is nice. And I think, you know, like, you know, sitting here endorsing Jay Glazer. I've known you for years.
Starting point is 00:39:46 Like you are a man of integrity. You do not, you don't, you won't backstab people to break a story. you won't fuck people over. That's not your style. I put out about maybe one percent of what I know. And because of that, because people trust me. Somebody says, hey, let's talk about I got something for you, but you can't go with it.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I can't go with it. I'm not going to ever screw anybody over. Trust me, too. Before we get to the next topic here, and there'll be a smooth transition, actually, it's kind of on topic. I do want to break a story. My son Luke ate a stink bug this morning.
Starting point is 00:40:17 Big national. No, no, dude, you're so far behind the times. that we've known about that for a long time yeah all right so does the season happen dude because this is relevant you talked about it brian allen is recovering from COVID he's fine right now right knock on one he's not clear he's not in the clear um depending when you're airing this uh he so here's what happened he tested positive twice and because the symptoms kept going on he tested again last week and he tested him it it came positive so first time was over three weeks ago then again last week and he still has it.
Starting point is 00:40:53 So it's not like he tested for the antibody. He tested positive again. But again, to reiterate for people, as you're describing as Brian Allen gave you permission to break into play that was agree with him. Correct. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:05 And he said that he's not going to test again. The doctor basically said, you've got to wait until your symptom free, not the smelling and the taste that they don't know when that's going to come back. But the flu. But he did. He said the flu,
Starting point is 00:41:21 was unlike any flu he ever felt. Right. He said, and he said it's, the symptoms were pretty interesting. He said the symptoms would start happening about 5 o'clock at night. And then he would get this horrible burning in his throat. And he said the mucus and the aches were unlike
Starting point is 00:41:36 anything he's felt. It was just different. And he would get so fatigued like he'd have to sit down and lay it down. Yeah. Yeah. And, but it would happen at 5 o'clock. It was when it would happen.
Starting point is 00:41:49 Which was odd. That part. And again, I wanted to get this story after people to hear these symptoms too. Brian, who lives on a rock, didn't know that losing taste and smell was a symptom until his friends were like, hey, dude, you might have this. And he's like, what do you mean? So I want people to really know what these symptoms are.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Do you think that it's great that it would have been? So he needs seven days symptom free is the point in the story. And I think it's Thursday or Friday would be seven-day symptom three So then he's goal He'll get the year off of them. I'm sure lost and the whole thing is that Everybody's praying for him and anybody else who has it
Starting point is 00:42:29 I mean like it's it's it's it's terrible Again and the fact that he had asthma scared him But really scary It did but it didn't That part of it that flu like part of it It was bad for four days but not anything that Really he didn't go down the dark hole We all want to make sure that it didn't have
Starting point is 00:42:46 You know, as an aside, Jay, don't you, what if it was Tom Brady? Do you think people would be as mad at you? No. Which is crazy. Yeah. Then, so people are just, now, I see, I do see both sides of the thing. I'm not trying to, but that is fucking crazy when you think about it. If this were Tom Brady or Odell Beckham, people would be saying, damn, that is big news,
Starting point is 00:43:08 as if we're valuing one person's health over another. I think it's relevant. I don't. I don't. It's, he's just as important to anybody else, man. And he's gone through it, man. And again, the fact that he had a pre-existing condition, yeah, it scared it. And look, if it was like, hey, man, I'm, I would have, he's like, I don't know, you know, today's so dire than I would have gotten a fox to say it.
Starting point is 00:43:32 There's any way we can move to show up. But the point was that he came through it. That's the whole point of this thing that he's come through it. And that is big national news. The man had it and came through it with pre-existing condition. So I'm proudly he came on and talked with me. about it to let people know that, yeah, hopefully this is a sign that, you know, look, we're all about to start coming through this.
Starting point is 00:43:54 Well, I think, I think it also highlights the fact that, you know, even these pro athletes who do seem to be, you know, access to the best health care, careful, they're affluent, they're healthy, they can still get it. And we've known that for a little bit, but this drives it home a little bit more. And as you're looking at the season, I've been saying for a few weeks now, and right now it sounds like I'm patting myself on the back. It's not something I want to be right about. But I've been saying that the season is probably at least going to be badly delayed.
Starting point is 00:44:23 I don't see how you have a season and risk a second surge or risk the fact that it's a money business. Okay, gambling is a big part of the NFL. Think about this. Who's laying bets down on the NFL thinking that at any point a star player, a quarterback could come down with COVID and could be sidelined? You know, like, that's going to change the entire dynamic of the playoff race. It's going to change. Then teens have to be quarantined. Let's not, let's not predict.
Starting point is 00:44:52 We don't know. Yeah. We don't know. Okay. We don't know. So, just like I said, we, doctors can't tell Brian when his smell is going to come back. We don't know anything else. Like, we don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:07 So like yesterday, I went and got an antibodies test. I'm pretty sure me and my whole gym got it in January. I shouldn't say pretty sure. I suspect we all had it in January. It ran through us hard. Our little fighter, Ava Knight, we almost pulled her from the fight. She lives with me when she trains here.
Starting point is 00:45:26 We almost took her the emergency room. And she was in fight camps and she was in great shape. That's the sickest I've ever seen anybody with the flu in my life. And our whole gym and our MVP foundation pretty much shut down in January. It just went through us so fast. And I got the chills unlike I ever had in any flu. So I don't know if I had it, but I went and got the antibody test yesterday, hoping that I did. And I think if you could start getting, there's a couple places here in L.A.
Starting point is 00:45:51 They do it. One's a little pinprick, and it's like 15 minutes. Mine's a blood test you get in four days. I think if you can get these widespread, then you can get players in everybody in the facility, admin tests, see you as the antibodies, at least them get back. If there's a ready-made test, where you could see if somebody has the virus, temperatures, things like that, then you could put people in an area. Maybe I've been trained.
Starting point is 00:46:12 You know, I don't know. I don't know though. I don't know. I'm just hypothetical. No one knows. It's all conjection. So let's not predict. Let's not predict.
Starting point is 00:46:20 Let's go about, we don't have to make a decision yet, but let's not make that decision yet. Is there, is there uncertain? Well, there's obviously uncertainty, but is there stress in league circles that you've spoken to of, you know, like we're very regimented fraternity football, you know, the NFL. Everything's scheduled. Everything's very regimented. You know, we have to know what the plan is for the summer. Coaches especially, God forbid, it's not on the schedule. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:49 The people you talk to are they stressed out beyond, you know, just the normal amount of uncertainty? No, I think they're dealing with it right now. Some of the coaches are still acting like, okay, we're going to have some sort of camp or OTAs. His assistant coach was like, dude, what are you doing? We're not doing that. But he's probably doing it for his own Saturday,
Starting point is 00:47:11 trying to make sure he has some normal sleep. Others are like, oh, we know that it's just going to be virtual from here and out for a while. And they're all dealing with a difference. And by virtual, you mean, and I've read a little bit about this. I mean, people are carrying out their workouts virtually some meetings and such. Yeah, Zoom, yeah. So easy to follow. You could Ferris Bueller yourself big time and just fall the fuck asleep during a meeting
Starting point is 00:47:36 and just freeze the screen on you being attentive. I mean, it'd be so. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah. Some guys I play with, they're going to love these Zoom meetings. No doubt about it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:45 What about the draft? Are you a proponent of the draft going on? I know I am. If they can do it safely, I think we could use it. Yeah, I am. I know GMs aren't. Well, listen, if I was a GM, I wouldn't be. If I was a personnel guy, I wouldn't be.
Starting point is 00:48:02 Because information's power. You're not able to get the best information here in this. So I wouldn't be okay with it. I also wouldn't be okay with people coming into my house. that I don't know, setting stuff up in my house. Yeah. Okay. But I do think we need to stay socially connected.
Starting point is 00:48:17 So any sort of, you know, normalcy, semblance of normalcy we can have here, we need sports is escapism. That's what we are. And also I think so many people got mad yesterday because they want them to escape from the virus. Instead, I give more news about the virus, instead of giving them an escape like Brock came out of retirement or a cam sign somewhere
Starting point is 00:48:40 or Brady something with Brady or Chris Long jumped on a 40 inch box or Chris Long's kid ate a bug. Yeah, Chris Long's kid ate a stink bug. I think people would have been less bad about, and by the way, him eating a stink bug I think it was alive this
Starting point is 00:48:56 morning was the ultimate like hey, message dad, like this is going to be a long quarantine. I think he's a future contestant on naked and afraid. He might be. He might be. He might be. He might be. Let's hit your MVP stuff. I think right now as much as any time as evidenced by the phone call,
Starting point is 00:49:15 the Zoom that I was lucky enough to be a part of last night. As you said, social distancing is not social isolation. What is MVP and how have you tried to highlight that and it's important right now? MVP is a foundation that I started four years ago with a guy I got into the league to be the oldest rookie in the history of the NFL, Nate Boyer. You know who's one of your first guys who went up with you and Warder Boyer? who's on your board over there. And, you know, when Nate got cut by the Seahawks,
Starting point is 00:49:43 I trained him, he ends up getting cut by the Seahawks. He actually qualified for Delta. He was going back in. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm going to move you into my guest house over here. I'm making my Cato Cailin. We'll figure something out for you. And MVP came about where, look, I've had a lot.
Starting point is 00:50:01 I've been covering the NFL and around the NFL since 93. and, you know, my little TV wife and my baby sister, Michael Stray, and I have been going at this for a long time. And he and I have had a lot of friends in this league. But when they're done, man, they just go off the reservation. And they're not following that. They're not using the same skills that they have to make to get themselves in the NFL for their next step in life for their transition like you guys are.
Starting point is 00:50:27 And I've been trying to help guys. And I'm having a conversation one day with a player's wife who said, You got to do something about your boy. I said, I heard he had pneumonia. She's like, he doesn't have pneumonia. He is, since he's not picked up by team, he has not left the house in three weeks. Blinds are shut, drapes are closed, and he's just embarrassed. And as I'm having this conversation, Nate, who's living with me in the house, he's in the living room,
Starting point is 00:50:50 had the exact same conversation with one of his green berets. Guy won't leave the house. Doesn't feel like he has any purpose anymore. Doesn't feel like he fits in society. And I'm like, you're damn right. You don't fit in society. Society needs to fit in around us. not the other way around.
Starting point is 00:51:05 So I said, dude, Nate, let's put these guys together. Let's merge these vets and players together, give them a new team to get, again. The biggest problem you have when the uniform comes off, it's, yeah, some guys miss the firefights. I miss being in the cage with Randy Gator and Chuck Liddell, and as they're getting older, we're not able to do as much anymore. That's why I feel safe and comfortable.
Starting point is 00:51:27 These guys feel safe and comfortable there. You show the best parts of your life at that locker room. When you miss your tribe, you miss your locker room. them. That's when the issue starts. And we're able to say, well, our problems are head injuries or problems your PTSD or CT. The problems lie in missing your tribe because any problem you have, you could tackle it with your team. So what we've decided to do is build this new team again.
Starting point is 00:51:50 Bad asses empowering other bad asses and remind people like Chris, you play in the NFL, am I a lot of curse on your podcast right now? Yeah, fuck yeah. Okay, okay. You playing the NFL? That's not who the fuck you are. are. Okay, what's behind your ribcage that got you to beat out millions and millions and millions of
Starting point is 00:52:09 people to play in the NFL, that's who the fuck you are. Whether you play pro baseball, Olympics, pro-fire, football, that's who the fuck you are, right? And that doesn't leave when the uniform comes off. But too many of you guys think that it does. And same with our combat vets. They go overseas and they do incredible things. And it's be all you could be, right? And all they have brace under fire and courage under pressure.
Starting point is 00:52:30 And then all of a sudden they come back home here and they're like, oh, I'm different. And our narrative is, no, motherfucker, you're different. Different is good. Different leads to success. Anybody who's successful is different. And a lot of us, I've used my own depression and anxiety. I was born, unfortunately, with severe depression and anxieties. And day one of my life, I always live in the growth.
Starting point is 00:52:51 It's never not there. And it fucking sucks. And the only thing that gets me to see a little blue is to be of service to others. I've learned this from them. So with this MVP Foundation, we sit around and we merge together to call you're on last night, we had 90 of us being vulnerable, talking about why you shouldn't put a fucking revolver in your mouth, right? Why we need your route? There are 22 vets a day that are killing himself.
Starting point is 00:53:16 22. That number is not fucking okay. Okay. Our number of MVPers who attempted suicide, it's up there in the probably 60, 70 percent of our members. Since joining MEP, the number is fucking zero, not one, zero, because we make you beholden to your team again. And we also show you why you're starting to have these thoughts. We're all comparing ourselves, I got killed on social media last night or something. Social media is terrible with, it's the power of suggestion.
Starting point is 00:53:51 And these vets are seeing other people's lives and all of a sudden, and everybody's society. They're seeing everybody else's life on Instagram and suddenly they think their life sucks. these vets see their teammate kill themselves and everybody's like crying for them and loving them and go, well, fuck, my life sucks. Why not me? Why am I not going to do it? And we're there to show you, don't fucking do it. You have too much strength and power. Now all our vets that have not killed themselves, okay? Every one of them has since saved somebody else's life in MVP and others' lives. Like right now in this virus, we deployed. We're actually feeding the disabled and can't get their own food here in LA, over a thousand meals that MBPs have gone personally to
Starting point is 00:54:33 homes to help the disabled. If these people had committed suicide, there'd be a lot more people that weren't alive because of that. But you need to stay alive for your new brothers and sisters and because your greatness is still ahead of you. And that's where they're vulnerable with each other. No one's questioning your fucking manhood, dude, or my manhood, the shit we've done. So I can cry openly in front of somebody.
Starting point is 00:54:56 That makes me strong. This shit don't make me strong. No, I would agree. The vulnerability makes me strong. Definitely. Your biceps don't make you strong. Mine might make me strong. But I, yeah, there we go.
Starting point is 00:55:08 But I do, it's funny you say that because, and I've worked a little bit with MVP. I've been connected loosely. And I'm on the other side of the country. Whenever I come in and see that gym and see the vets working out with the players, you know, you could see Wiz Khalifa in there. You could see a green beret in there. You could see Alden Smith in there, who will get to in a second. but it's a cool, it's a cool morphing of different,
Starting point is 00:55:30 what are seemingly different walks of life. And there's certainly no comparing our walk of life to what the military does. But there is a tribe type of mentality. It's the same thing about, that people met back here, dude. And in getting to know Nate, Nate obviously did Conquering Killey, which is another thing we do with vets and players.
Starting point is 00:55:49 It's very, and in fact, it came out about the same time. So we were on the right track there. Yeah. And Nate's been kind of a common thread. So he's an all-star. So shout out to Nate. But as I'm on this call, I'm thinking to myself, you know, these Zoom calls are great.
Starting point is 00:56:02 And I don't think it's just vets and players. I think anybody out there right now, the best medicine for social distancing is to connect with somebody. Pick up that phone that you get tech neck staring at all day, scrolling through your timeline, and fucking call somebody or FaceTime somebody. And the thing I love about that call last night was, you know, it's kind of like on the airplane. when they tell you you have to secure your oxygen mask first, I think that every dude and woman on that call, and there were a lot of them, are people that other people look to for strength at this point in their life.
Starting point is 00:56:36 And what's so cool is that by being on that call, you are admitting that you need to secure your oxygen mask first. Everybody on that call needs to be able to help themselves so they can help other people. And that's exactly what I take it as. And I think it was a beautiful thing. And it uplifted me. I didn't say a word on the call,
Starting point is 00:56:52 but just listening to people, Seeing Ben Garland on there. Seeing David Andrews. See an NFL players on Alden was on there. Hoyce Gracie. Boyce Gracie who talked for five minutes. You know, listen, the things these guys open up about, recall you missed last week,
Starting point is 00:57:08 we had a guy named Eves. These guys are fine with me talking about because they know. Chris, I'm telling you, I truly, truly, truly believe that our group will change the suicide rate amongst vets in this country and in this country. I really, I have to believe it.
Starting point is 00:57:28 That's the only way, again, I can get through the gray. I have to believe that I can. And I fucking know I can. I know we can. Lastly, a football player that is one of my favorite players for a few years there, Alden Smith. I mean, he's 30 years old. He's five years out of football.
Starting point is 00:57:43 He had 42 sacks and three years. That puts him in rare company. I think it was D.T. and Reggie White. That's like it. So he was on fire and he was in my division. I used to love watching him play. He's making a comeback. And he works out of your gym.
Starting point is 00:57:58 You've been telling me about this for months. So give me the scoop on what's been going on with all of them. That's funny. I didn't like Alden. You said you love him. I didn't like him. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:58:07 I met him. We were out one night and I was like, who something's off here. Harris stand up in my back of my neck. I think we may fight. I don't know. It's just, you know, me I'm always getting these crops and with always people that are way bigger than me because that's the only thing you should do.
Starting point is 00:58:22 Most people. No, no, no, bigger, not taller. It was just sent off. Yeah. And he came out here, he's living a sober living, going to AA. And one of the guys on our advisory board, Jerry Steinberg, brought him in to Fox to meet me about MVP, by joining the MVP. And came in, met me that day.
Starting point is 00:58:46 He seemed different. It just seemed different. He wasn't really blaming everybody else. He's like, I'm sober living, trying to get sober, interested in MVP. And I just gave the same spiel to him that I just gave to you about, you know, his value, and what's behind his rib cage and between his ears. And so he started coming to MVP, and he really started coming to MVP. And then he started opening up to guys and being vulnerable about his own sobriety.
Starting point is 00:59:10 And about he's lost 31 of his close friends in recent times to ODs and suicides. 31 of his close friends because he's in this sobriety world. And then when I finally heard for him, you know, about, you know, why is that in the NFL? He's like, I screwed up. They don't owe me a shot. I'm the one who screwed us up. I stopped going to tests. I went in a dark place.
Starting point is 00:59:35 My sickness took me there. It's on me. And I said, you want to get back in the league? He goes, man, I said, do you love football? He goes, I love football. Right. You want to get back in the league? He goes, I'd love to get back in the league.
Starting point is 00:59:46 I said, hey, buddy, I got a pretty good system over here. My name, my word goes pretty well. If you're up for it, let's go walk this walk together, dude, and get you back. And I think you keep on the straight and narrow, and I said, let's get you back because your story is going to help a lot of other players. If you're willing to do that, I'm willing to take this walk with you. And he goes, Jay, that's what my dream is to be able to use my experience. He goes, I've got a really fucked up story.
Starting point is 01:00:11 And I know I can help a lot of these guys. And a lot of these guys got to understand, like, you have to hit my bottom. him to come back. I wasn't at Rock Bottom. I've been at Rock Bottom. So we started training seven months ago. He's been sobered 10 months now. Cleaning us over 10 months for the first time in a long in like his adult life.
Starting point is 01:00:31 Hasn't missed a single MVP meeting. Even when we opened up MVP New York, he flew in and talked to vets and players there about sobriety. Like this is not the same old than Smith you knew. And he played in about 260. see, we got him right now at 287, absolutely freaking rock. This is the part that's crazy to me. Listen, all that is, it's amazing.
Starting point is 01:00:56 I think the Waller kid in Oakland has gone a long way and talking about his issues, and there's been players who have talked about addiction and whatnot. But I think Alden Smith has an opportunity to be a guy, as you put it, that can change a lot of people's lives. Because I think he's physically capable of doing it. It's not like he's a bum. He was one of the best.
Starting point is 01:01:14 rushes I'd ever seen. Chris, you understand what I did. Justin Smith got a lot of credit there. Justin Smith, it was an absolute dog, but Alden Smith was not a byproduct of Justin Smith. That was a marriage. And Alden Smith, I can always remember that game where he dog gave Creamy in prime time. It's one of those games, like, and I apologize to Philly fans, that it's like that OC game
Starting point is 01:01:39 when he had six sacks. I remember where I was when I saw that game. And I just remember thinking this guy. guy's got a chance to be the best pass rusher or one of the best past rushes in the history of game. So Dallas taking a flyer on him. He's 285. Do you worry about him getting in a stance? I mean, he stood up most of his time in San Francisco. Do you worry about the football fit at all? No, what I tell you, like, we have him, the shape he's in, and again, we've been quarantined, but before this, he was Greco-Roman-Pumlin, five, three-minute round. He's going five-minute-round.
Starting point is 01:02:12 box, his sprints. We have, you know, we do this, all those violent hand-finding stuff, where I'm getting guys not to hit my firearms, it's smash my forearms, right? Hammerfish, what you and I have done, right? And we had him using this thing called the Raptor, which are these resistance cords that are attached to this machine that's attached to the wall. And he's stand on the line and put my hand up with these iPads on, so many's tracking him, and he's jumping off the line and go out for the quarterback. He ripped this thing off the wall. You don't understand the people I've had on this thing, man. I've had Elaine Johnson and the Dwayne Browns and that, I think,
Starting point is 01:02:44 Yuvian clownies, and the guys are just gangsters on this thing, and no one's ever ripped this thing off the wall. He's the first person that's ripped this thing off the wall, and it was like, like, it was almost like, I don't know explain it. It was like,
Starting point is 01:03:00 like, the whole shit was like, what? And it happens, like we'd have hundreds of players on this thing. No one's ever ripped it out of the wall before, and he wasn't trying to rip it out of the wall. He is so freaking explosive right now. And there's just, ways you can look at it. You go look at like, oh, he's 30 years old or his body's at
Starting point is 01:03:16 four years rest. But the crap he's put his body through. Let's see where that, you know, he's putting himself through a lot within his addiction. But the coolest thing that happened is when he, and the Cowboys connection was Mike McCarthy, his daughter works out at our gym. So Mike threw out to the gym. I was told Alden, Mike's going to come out. Mike is actually on our advisory board of MVP. So we love that Alden was part of it. He is one of our biggest donors. And he comes out to see his daughter, Alex,
Starting point is 01:03:54 and check out MVP. And him and Alden, man, just clicked like the two of them had grown up together. You'd think they were both old Irish guys from Pittsburgh. You were like, it was unreal, like, how much they bonded. And, you know, what I was going to do for Alden is start releasing videos. how he looked and let every team see
Starting point is 01:04:12 and I was going to take up for him. So, yeah, I've seen it first. And this is the guy who Alderman Smith is now. This is what he used to be. I could talk up on his behalf because I've seen it. And how many of our vets he's helped? And he just said, no, I really connect with Mike. I want to go there.
Starting point is 01:04:27 And Jim Thomas Sula there was his head coach with 49ers and his D-Line coach there. He's like, I just want to go with Mike. And so, okay, shoot. He just went straight there with the Cowboys. but I've been sending them videos. They're just like, oh, my God. Like, dude, wait to you to see him.
Starting point is 01:04:46 Like, he is, again, I don't even know who to compare him to, Chris, because I haven't seen anybody at $2.90 with a V. I don't know who to compare him to. Maybe, see, Julius Peppers was too tall. I don't know who to compare him to you. Well, I'm right here. I don't have anybody. I'm right here, so I know you don't want to talk about me while.
Starting point is 01:05:05 Yeah, but you're like 6-2 or something. I don't have a V. That's the fucking joke. Yeah, you're at home. You're in high. Just straight of it now. Okay, well, cool. Hey, we covered a lot.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Jay gave us the context on the big national news. I love it. Thanks for being so honest. It's all I got. Yeah, I mean, you're mostly an open book, which is why I wanted to get you on. And the jackpot for me is we had this schedule before Breaking Newsgate. I've done it for you anyway, brother.
Starting point is 01:05:41 Last night, you know, when we get off the call, somebody's like, oh, you got Jay on tomorrow? You need to look at his mentions. I was like, oh, yeah. We're going to talk about this. I talked to, you down at last night and I talked. I saw it too, like, trying to get, people still Instagram to me about what a douchebag they think I am. Well, you know, if they tell me, it takes, you know, 48 hours and then it passes. But we're going to extend it a little bit because it's a prolific podcast.
Starting point is 01:06:05 So I don't really get a reset the cloud. I know what I did. I know the job I did, and I know the job I'm doing here, and that's what the fuck I care about. And the world can hate me. If I save somebody else's life tomorrow, man, that needs to be... For all the people that hate... I'm fucking good. For all the people that newly hate Jay Glazer, I bet you feel like a real asshole now.
Starting point is 01:06:24 We talk about MVP for a while. You just skip that part of the home. By way, I do want to throw something in. Yeah. So I don't know when you're airing this, but on Thursdays when we're doing this, right now we're taking this. Actually, MVP, we're doing a special MVP for first responders, for doctors and nurses. and EMT and everybody on the front lines of this virus.
Starting point is 01:06:42 So we're doing a special one. If you are, any of those people who just need a break from your day, it's going to be weekly until we get through this. Next Thursday, it won't be next Thursday because it's the draft. We're going to figure you out another day, but go to our website, get some players.org. We work out for a half hour just to get some sort of burn again and, you know, have a little fun there and get releasing dorphins in your break.
Starting point is 01:07:07 But then after we huddle up, We have our mental health talk. We just hear each other out. We open up. And I'm sure you guys all need a break right now. So please go to our website. Vets and Players.org. We're here for you, man.
Starting point is 01:07:18 We got your balance. You heard it vets and players.org. And that's Jay Glazer, my friend. Jay, thanks for your time. Appreciate you. Please stay safe, dude. All right. Love you.
Starting point is 01:07:29 Okay, love you, man. See you. So that was Jay Glazer. Again, somebody that I really like and somebody I've known for a long time. He's a buddy. I love the work he does with MVP. And none of that is fake. Jay really lives that stuff.
Starting point is 01:07:46 And, you know, he stepped in a little bit the way he broke the news here. But I think there's a lot of mitigating circumstances that are relevant here. That's not to say that that should change your mind. Listen, we had this thing on the books for a couple days. And last night when I got off that MVP call with Jay, I got a text from making. And it was like, oh, you're getting Jay on tomorrow. You need to go look at Twitter. So I did, and I said, oh, this is going to be a good one.
Starting point is 01:08:11 So enjoy talking to Jay. Again, we will be back early next week. I'm going to try to get somebody on and talk about the draft. I'm going to talk about the Jordan documentary coming up this weekend after it airs. And next week, content picks up. Again, you've got the Jordan stuff Sunday night. You've got the draft coming up. Hopefully, from a sports standpoint, we start to see a little bit of,
Starting point is 01:08:37 more news that can take our minds off of what's stressing everybody out, which is this pandemic. I hope that everybody's staying safe, staying inside, and trying to keep the morale up, and check back with us after the weekend. Y'all take care. Good?

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