Green Light with Chris Long - Ep.29 - 2020 NFL Scouting Combine and Surprise Wonderlic Test

Episode Date: February 29, 2020

0:52 - Welcome. 4:45 - #29s. 13:43 - Chris' Little League Baseball Teams. 22:45 - Chris' Africa Trip with Waterboys. 32:58 - Chris' Gambling Update. 38:30 - Chris and Macon take the Wonderlic Test. 40:15 - Russillo Appearance. 42:22 - Macon's Hands. 44:10 - NFL Scouting Combine Review. 1:12:30 - Chris' NFL Scouting Combine Experience. About Chalk Media: Following the unfiltered voice and vision of Chris Long, Chalk Media is the interactive online community for you, the intelligent and humorous sports fan. Driven by access, Chalk delivers a unique perspective that cuts through the canned talking points and provides a variety of content from your favorite sports and entertainment celebrities. Here at Chalk, we don’t take ourselves too seriously, but we are rooted in challenging the perception of professional athletes. We embrace the “real” with a unique combination of humor and intelligence. Chalk is a community with a voice beyond 240 characters that brings a perspective and vibe to a traditionally brash and boastful sports media space. Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more. Nothing is off-limits at Chalk - hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. 🌍🏀🏈SUBSCRIBE NOW ⚾🏒⛰️ http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

All right, welcome to Greenlight Pod number 29. I'm back in, I'm back stateside. I've been gone for a little bit, a little hiatus. We're going to talk about the combine. We're going to wait on the CBA. We're going to let this weekend pass and talk about it next week, I think. Yeah, it's a good time to get back in town. There's a lot to talk about going on in Indianapolis.

And I'll keep you up to speed on my trip and what's going on with Waterboys. Welcome to Go! Greenlight pod. The boys are back in town, the boys are back in town. One of the worst songs of all time. Let me think about it. Yeah.

It's a bad song. Cosine. Like, makes my head hurt. Yeah. But yeah, the boys are back in town. Yeah, I never left, I guess. Yeah, that's true. But you went over to Africa.

You crossed international waters. Yeah, East Africa. So I, um. Welcome back. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. Yeah, yeah. And thank you for welcoming you and the listeners.

This is my co-host. Making Gunner. I'm Chris Long, your host. And yeah, I'm just getting over jet lag. I mean, finally. There's a lot going on for me right now. Okay? I haven't had...

Your hat is falling off. There's a few. My hat's falling off. I accidentally shaved my face too close. I look like combine me, just a little bit older. Yeah. I'm more unhealthy. I think that's a fine length, frankly.

Okay, cool, yeah, yeah. Let me give the people a full look at this grill here. I shaved the beard. They said that this was an accident, but on the bright side, they said it's like you shave your beard to avoid the coronavirus. Your beard keeps the corona. Yeah, it does.

In and around your mouth, which is the problem. I don't want anything in and around my mouth. Definitely not coronavirus. Wash your hands, folks. Yeah, wash your hands. Also, do not take it out on coronavirus. the beer. Right.

I saw that 38% of Americans are led to believe that there's some correlation between the beer and the virus, the pandemic. Yeah, there isn't. Which means we're fucked. I mean, more so than the virus, which is something you got to take seriously, 38% of Americans, at least in the sample size poll, have decided that they would avoid purchasing corona products. Yeah, there are a fair amount of us,

including perhaps you and me, will get to that in a bit with the Wonderlic, who aren't so smart. Yeah, but I think I'm actually pretty smart. My score was decent. I walked in here to the Chalk Headquarters, Chalk Seaville, World Headquarters, and Chris says you're taking a Wonderlic,

and I'm not so thrilled with my result. Ran out of Time. To be fair, there were a lot of noises. Some of the questions were questionable. Take it up with the Wonderlick. Reed was singing while we were. Reed was humming. Cowboy Reed was in here humming.

Yeah. The thing you forget about the Wonderlic is it's fucking timed. Yeah. Like it's, I looked up five minutes in and it was like, you have five minutes left. Yeah. Didn't know there was a clock running. I'm sitting here like,

what two words are not the same out of these? Like I'm like really reflecting. Yeah. And here, 746 negative three, which number is next in the sequence. You're making this up, Wonderly. I do not remember doing the Wonderlic at the Combine. My memories of the Combine are very faint

because of course they wake you up early in the morning. You're under a lot of stress. Totally unnecessarily waking you up early in the morning. I saw the schedule this year, and they're in prime time now, but these guys are up at 6 a.m. I know it's to like, you know, kind of imitate the stressors

of a normal day in the NFL, pressure pack situations, fatigue and whatnot, but it just seems unnecessary. If you want to know what, I don't know, you're in there half asleep, taking the Wonderlick, that's all I remember. And I think I've gone 28 out of 29 pods with my go juice.

A little double shot of espresso. Did not have it today. Yeah, you don't have that. Which stunk. What did we want to get to here in the open? Well, number 29. Yeah, number 29. This is the 29th pod,

So we're going to reveal our notable number 29 right about now. You want to start? Right about now. The Funso brother, check it out now. I sure will. My number 29 is Eric Dickerson. As you can see there on the screen with his goggles on. The curl.

His blue and yellow old school Rams jersey. Yep. Just chilling. Now we had discussed 29 for a hot second when we were doing 28 if we could even think up any 29s. And in my research, nobody could surpass Eric Dickerson in terms of, what would you call that? Swag.

Swag. I got a guy with a lot of swag, but we'll get to him in a minute. Okay. Eric Dickerson born September 2nd, 1960 in Sealy, Texas. He's 6'3, 220 pounds. Big dude. Went two. SMU.

SMU, before the death penalty. Although Dickerson was a subject of recruiting controversy when he started driving a new Pontiac Trans-Zam during his senior year of high school. Weren't they hot back that in the early 80s? Pontiac Trans-Am. Was it the, no, it was the 70s, huh? That would have been, that would have been,

he was drafted in 83, so yeah, early 80s. Yeah, yeah, him my dad are about the same age. Is he 60? That just turned 60 recently. Yeah, yeah. And Eric and you have something in common. Played for the Rams. Two things in common.

Human beings. Three things in common. Both six foot three. Hold on, I want to keep going. Four things in common. Also drove a sedan at one point. Five, we're up to five things. I had a grand marquis,

1983 grand marquis. It was also probably a pretty hot car back when E. Dick was roaming around the streets of L.A. Oh, I looked that up. after you had mentioned that. Nobody calls me dick. Nickname. No, but he has nicknames. Where's my mobile? The thing I was after was that he was a second overall pick. Oh, we were. We were twos. Deuses. Deuses in the 1983 draft. Also human beings.

Played for the Rams, Colts, Raiders, and finally the Falcons in 93. Five team, five time. Darn it, first team all pro. NFL offensive player of the year in 1986. A terrific year. It's a big back. I have some other 29s I want to mention. I'm probably gonna let you get to yours since I know you. You're gonna do the thing where you mention every 29 ever. You really get upset.

His nicknames included Mr. Fourth Quarter because of his stamina, naturally. Mr. Benny, because of his frugality, which is not explained. Number one, for obvious reasons. If you're number 29, I don't know. And thanks in part to his name, The Dick. Hold on a sec.

Oh, this is Eric. Dickerson? Yeah. His nickname was the dick. Yeah. This is from Texas Monthly.com. If they had Instagram back then, your name's definitely got to be the dick

with the blue check next to me. So we got Mr. Fourth Quarter, Mr. Benny, number one, and the dick. His incessant complaining led the Rams to trade him to Indy in 1987. He complained, huh?

Yeah. Complain are six things you have in common. Yeah, I like to complain too. Although I'm working on being more positive. I do want to mention that I came close to making my number 29 Ligarrett Blunt, one of my favorite football players of all time, one of my favorite teammates of all time.

Ligarit Blunt is a one-of-a-kind individual. He used to have a portable shower boombox, like a waterproof boombox, just jam out in the shower for like an hour, probably in there with wrinkled fingers and shit. Like, you know, the whole team's at the facility. Yeah, yeah. So not his water.

No, not his water. But LG was, he brought a lot of life to a locker room. And I was really happy when he came to Philly with me that year. I mean, that like made the whole thing. It was cool. You know, a guy who I always respected and played against when he was in Tampa. And then we kind of linked up in New England. And we're still pretty cool now.

So you didn't want to be the only one to do Pat Super Bowl than Eagle Super Bowl? Yeah, no, I wanted to. I wanted company. Okay. So LG, shout out to LG, I'm sorry. And I was nearly going to do Smoltz. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. And then I looked at his personal section on Wikipedia. Oh, not so good. And back in the day, he compared gay marriage to beastiality. Uh-huh. So I decided that his cowboy reads back to like, what the fuck? They say, never meet your heroes. Yeah.

Those guys got away with a lot by not having the 24-hour news cycle. If somebody stuck a microphone in Smoltz's face back then, luckily for him, nobody got that sound bite until I just did. Yeah, people are getting retroactively canceled. I'm surprised that it hasn't come back to bite Mr. Smoltz. I just don't think anybody gives enough of fuck about the Braves pitchers in the 90s, although they were very good. Yeah, but he's calling Fox.

He's calling World Series ball games. Is he doing World Series ball games? Yeah, I'm a baseball watcher. I should know that. Yeah. But yeah, he compared gay marriage to beastiality, so sorry, John. I can't really... You're canceled on this podcast.

Well, I'm not gonna make you my number 29. Nor am I going to make... Not that John Rocker wore 29, but what the fuck was going on in that locker room? Was he there then? I think John Rocker was there with John Smoltz. I think of him as being younger, but yeah, John Rocker. Greg Maddox would never. No.

Greg Maddox just looks like the kindest soul. Watch, you're gonna find some, you're on it already to see what Greg Maddox has done? No, because I was seeing that Rocker's 45 years old and Smoltz is 52, they still could have been on the same teams. I think they were on the same team. I went with Satchel Page. Great.

Yeah, did you consider that one? Great pick, yep, he's on my list. Satchel Page, and I didn't know like a ton about it. I mean, I knew he was the first Negro League player to be inducted in the Hall of Fame. It was in 1971. He played a long time. That's him in St. Louis.

Now, back then, they didn't put the numbers on the front of the jerseys. He played for the St. Louis Browns, and that is a Billiken, I believe, on the shoulder. St. Louis Billikins. It looks like a Billican. And that was an MLB team, I guess, the St. Louis Browns.

I think so. And he was 42 years old as a rookie. Wow. He had spent that much time in Negro leagues. In 1948, he was the oldest major league rookie and he was playing for the Cleveland Indians he was the first player again

from the Negro Leagues to not only get into the Hall of Fame but also pitching the World Series so I was reading about this guy and I'm like there has to be a fucking movie they have to make a movie about this guy I mean if you read about this guy and I'd love if somebody could suggest

a Satchel Page book I'm sure there's a biography somewhere he's pretty interesting guy dude he was the original showboat the shit talker um you know he was he he claimed he didn't know how old he was he said that uh a goat ate the bible that had his birth certificate in it um he used snake venom on his arm to keep his arm from getting sore and his arm probably damn near fell off he played in thousands of games he acted in a hollywood western he used to have his infielder sit down and he'd just strike out the side he'd bring the outfielders in uh he was a

trash talker at one point in the uh in the world series in negro leagues he uh he walked two batters to uh face the power hitter the star josh gibson with the bases loaded walked him on purpose power move and then he struck him out his last pro game he was 60 years old wow i mean uh you know in a lot of his pitches, they said, would kind of push the envelope of legality. He had like a hesitation pitch that, you know, people would say was a balk. He really didn't give a shit. Joe DiMaggio said he was the best he'd ever faced. Threw the piss out of the ball.

50 no hitters, allegedly. Thousands of games. You know, and that really takes a toll on your arm. And that reminds me of some of my little league peers, who before there was a, there was a, a rule in Little League about you know innings I don't know if nowadays in Little League there's like a

pitch count that they keep everybody on probably back when I played at McIntyre formerly called Dixie Little League now it's McIntyre by the way Craig Littlepage was the was the commissioner of our Little League very cool in the 90s

and then the AD obviously at UVA so quite the resume before he got the UVA. Craig is not just decorated as a great AD. Also a great Little League Baseball Commissioner. Hoop player, hoop coach. Hoop player, hoop coach. So, yeah, Sean Horner is somebody I want to talk about.

He's a childhood friend. He played for the worst fucking team in Little League. He's a buddy of mine. And I think the team he was on, it wasn't Craig Builders. Craig Builders was dog shit. Ben James was on Craig Builders. Shout out to Ben James.

Shout out to Craig Builders. Yeah. Shout out to Craig Builders. It's a real business, but your little league team was dog shit. It wasn't Republic title. Shout out to James Sullenberger. It wasn't Shoney's.

Shout out to Evan Dirk. Shonies. By the way, I don't know if they still have Shonies. Shonies was the arch nemesis of the Elks. I was on the Elks Club. We were black and yellow. Shout out to Chris Miller.

You used to break it down to on three. what do you say no to and we'd all say drugs wow how'd that work out good really yeah i mean marijuana's not drug cannabis in the drug oh yeah i never got into the hard stuff okay so thank you chris three shone's locations in richmond apparently still got shonies popping yep shonies is what kind of cuisine american american just very american oh they've updated that logo a little bit now have a nice oh yeah yeah yeah it used to be it used to just be it's screaming 1994. And Shoney's was our nemesis.

Now, Sean was on, I don't know, the team was so bad, I don't remember it, but he used to pitch every game. He pitched every single game. Like they didn't have another pitcher. And I'll always remember when we went up to the 13-year-old tryouts, the fateful day, we were in the batting cage trying out, and he was pitching, and he was a stud.

He went to throw the ball and it just sailed. Oh, no. He grabbed his arm, cyst blew up his whatever this bone is here. I shouldn't be asking you. Your wonderlicks probably not that great judging by your reaction earlier. Well, let's think about it.

Humorous. That's what I was going to say. Yeah, I bet you were. I was. That's what the Wonderlick said too. You ran out of time. So he blew up his humorous or whatever that bone,

Ulna, and he never pitched again. What might have been? He could have been the next, I don't know. Satchel page? Could have been the next satchel page. Little white satchel page. I don't like how you said cyst

because I have a parolabral cyst going on, as you know, in my shoulder right now. That was insensitive, I'm sorry. And when I first heard cyst, I was like, oh, okay, cool. I'm good because as we all know, a cyst is a little something. Yeah. Well, luckily you're not a little league pitcher

because that could blow up on you, never pitch again. So shout out to Sean Horner. Oh, do not Google image cyst. I thought I was on, I thought I was just getting the definition and I was on the images. Let me see. I'm going to do it. I'll just show it to you. What the fuck is that?

The bunch of cis. Oh, I thought that's not that bad. There's no private parts there. They're just cis. It's just like, you know, like protrusions in the skin. Yeah, gross. I thought you were like, it was like some sort of pornography you didn't want to see. by that reaction.

You wouldn't do well, you don't like blood, do you? Not really. Injuries. You're okay, but not really. Yeah. You want to talk broken bones and stuff? I don't like that. Yeah, you don't like that stuff.

You have any injuries before this labrum? Yeah. I got crooked fingers. Speaking of that, we're gonna measure your hand later to make sure you're not Joe Burrow. I don't know if I care for that, because I have small hands. I have small hands and I have short arms. Okay.

So you're basically a T-Rex. Yes. In Ralph Lauren. Because when I was last at the doctor, I might have been wearing shoes, okay? Yeah, yeah. But six, four and a half. But I have small hands. You are taller of me.

I'll admit that on this pod. Thank you. Finally. Short arms, long legs, big feet. It's a mish-mash of extremities over here. Like a regular Frankenstein, corporate Frankenstein. T-Rex. I think you're right with T-Rex.

You know where I get my height? Where? I'm like here. Yeah. Not even, like before the calf, under the calf to my ankle is abnormally long. My lovely girlfriend Kate pointed that out about a year ago.

Oh yeah? Yeah, at the beach, she's like, what's going on with the ankle to the calf thing? It's like another. She just realized that? Yeah. You're like the slender man. I've actually always wondered

where the height because of the torso. Yeah, no, no, no, no, no. You're more of like a giraffe. My neck is long? No, I'm thinking about animals just kind of spindly long legs. Yeah, I got a long torso, by the way, which is not great for your 40 time.

Which explains 475. We'll get into that in a little bit. Yeah. I did pretty good in some other areas now. Okay? And we'll talk about that. So I want to keep you posting on what's going on with Waterboys. Obviously, I'm back.

We're stateside. I really being away for a week and not having service a lot was very nice. I considered for a bit never podcasting again. This is no bullshit. Yeah, I had to have like a come to Jesus moment, Jesus of podcasting. And I had to reflect on if I really wanna do this because I was so happy to not have to get up and talk, you know?

So you would just do nothing? Yeah, I thought about like being all types of different things. You know like when you retire, it's one of those things. It's like when you're a kid and they say, what do you wanna be when you grow up? Like now I have an opportunity to be what I want to be when I grow up. I could be anything. I could try to go be a fireman.

Ooh, dangerous. My lovely wife wouldn't like that. You're married. Yeah. And her name is Meg. Meg. Meg. Yeah.

Meg. Can I recommend Mailman for a variety of reasons? Mailman would be dope. Talk to me about mailman. You get your steps in. Yeah. Solitude. You can listen to whatever you like.

A lot of podcasts. They listen to a ton of podcasts. Yeah. And you have a very clear goal objective. Yeah. And you literally deliver for people. That's what I would be. I used to want to be a river guide.

You can drive on the right, on the right, the right, the wheels on the right side. That's cool. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah, I used to want to be a river guide, but my lovely wife wouldn't like that probably. Me being gone for weeks on end,

new river gorge. You never know. What was her reaction when you returned home from East Africa? Was she excited to see it? She was happy to see me. Or at least she acted like she was excited to see me. The kids, they legitimately were excited to see me. So I missed my kids a lot. I did not miss podcast. I'm not even going to lie. And like on a day like today, I woke up and I was like, I don't really want a podcast. Like, I. Dang, you should have shared that with me. I know, but we're doing good. Yeah. No, now we're doing good. Yep. Hey. Yeah. Nice. Look at us. Paul Rudd. Yep. Dot Giff. Right. Yeah. Yeah, no, I woke up this morning. I was like, fuck, dude. I got to get up and talk about the combine.

Like, that's all anybody's talking about. Yeah. I just feel like sometimes when you have to talk one time a week, two times a week, it can be a little exhausting three times a week, like in the fall. You're preaching to the choir, bro. Yeah, I know. But hey. But you're good at this, dude.

Thank you. Yeah. Hey, episode 28. Yeah. I enjoyed. You liked it. Yeah. Yeah.

For like the first time. You didn't like this first 27? Yeah. 28, I think a groove was found. I'm still waiting to find that groove. I also, I hacked it. I listened on 1.5 speed. Oh, yeah.

It was entertaining. Well, I'm trying to bring more energy. And one of the reasons I think I'm a little bit sharper right now is I haven't really gotten shitty, so to speak, this entire February. Yeah. Yeah, I haven't had a, you know, a bender night. I had probably a total of three drinks. this entire month, I feel remarkable.

Yeah. So I got to fix that tomorrow night. Duke, Virginia. On a leap day night. Duke and Virginia at Jones Arena. Yep, yep, yep, yep. Big one. But before we get to that, yeah, I am back from Tanzania.

I saw some amazing animals. We were on safari. I brought some players over to do Safari. I think I've talked about this. Whitney Merciless, Greg Bell, Chris Draf, William Hayes, Ben Garland I don't think I know Miles Garrett And then a bunch of guys and girls came over

Veterans NFL players to do the climb Actually right now as we speak And this it's so comfortable in this studio Okay Right now that Conquering Killy group Is at 15,000 feet They're sleeping It's an eight hour difference

We're recording right now full disclosure at 3pm on a Friday This will air tomorrow morning If you're listening, it'll be Saturday morning. These guys and girls are at 15,000 feet. It's probably below freezing. They have been on the mountain four or five days. They have to wake up in two hours. They're essentially taking a nap,

and then they're going to make up another 4,500 feet to 19.5,000 and a half thousand in summit, which is going to take eight and a half hours in the darkness to get to the top of Kilimanjaro. And then they've got to climb down, which is going to take another 12 hours. roughly what percentage of a crew turns back does not sum it

two thirds uh gen pop now our group military veterans NFL players and we do have a couple of special donors a lot of people ask me they're like it's funny in my comments and I love everybody that supports water boys so you get a lot of like I'd love to go on the next trip I'm like this plane tickets cost a lot of money

yeah and uh you know if you want to if you want to do a well if you want to donate a well. If you donate a well, I'll make room for you on the next trip. Yeah. Wells are $45,000. Yeah.

Now, we do have a couple donors, but our rate of success is closer to like eight out of ten. And I just talked to, I just talked to Nicole, shout to Nicole Woody, runs my foundation. She's over there right now.

She says, everybody is up there right now. So knock on wood, nobody's turned around. Now this is where it gets hard. Good luck, fellas. Yeah, good luck. Ladies.

Guys and girls, if you're listening to Greenlight Pod on the side of the mountain. Right. To be fair, tonight here in Charlottesville, it's going to be 28 degrees. Yeah, so it's not all sunshine and rainbows for us. Yeah, I mean, it was snowing? Outside? Here or there? I missed it.

I missed it too. You got to be fucking kidding me. I love snow. Me too. Snow is... Oh, 10 out of 10? Yeah, maybe 11. I don't know why...

Oh! You don't like it when 100. Don't go off the scale. Okay. I'm just saying that snow is awesome. And a lot of people get, what? One to 10. And somebody said zero.

Not on the scale. No, no, no, no. Yeah, I agree. That was wrong. But I love snow. I hope it snows later. We saw a bunch of lions. I saw so many lions that I am desensitized to lions.

Like, not even, they're like seeing a deer on the side of the road to me. also I am over those animals I learned a lot about lions that I didn't want to learn on this trip that the males when they find a new female they kill all the babies oh wow what do you mean when they find a new female like when they're trying to push up on a female lion at the club club serengetty so not not a monogamous deal there with lions I don't think lions are wait until marriage if you know what I mean

Right. Right. But if one male lion has reproduced with a female lion, he's moving on. I don't know his moral code comprehensively. I just know that he kills the babies. And that's a non-starter for me. Where's the baby father lion? He's off doing whatever he or he pieced out. But like, you know, to kill off the next of kin of any other lions, the lion will murk the babies indiscriminately. So for me, I'm kind of a hyena guy right now. I mean, like hyena is always get a bad rap in film. And lions are always made to be. And by the way, I have a big lion tattoo on my back. I'm going to get that bad boy covered up now.

Wow. Yeah. So lions are trending down. William Hayes was on the, was, by the way, we did a pod with William Hayes. I'll tease that real quick. Me and William in a, in the tented camp we were at. It's basically the rooms are tent. They're nice tents.

They're like wedding tents. They're like fairly secure. Not secure enough that if like an elephant or a, you're in the Serengeti, not secure enough that an elephant couldn't knock it down or a lion couldn't scratch a hole in it. But we did a pod around 9 o'clock at night. I should have called it stoned in the Serengeti. It was quite the adventure.

And there were lions outside roaring during the pod. You can actually hear it around the like the hour mark. there. And William Hayes, his favorite animal was the jackal and a turtle due to their indifference about what was going on around them. Also saw a leopard, a bunch of elephant. Yeah, leopards are awesome.

Yeah, but jackals look like foxes and I don't like foxes. Yeah, and like Impala, I saw a bunch of those. Now the coolest thing we saw was, and it is heartbreaking a little bit, but it was a cheetah that hawked the baby Impala. and killed it in front of us. Yeah, that doesn't sound. It's nature. It's called the Circle of Life.

You ever heard of it? At all. Have I ever heard of the Circle of Life? Yeah. I guess so. I've heard of natural selection. Yeah, and that was, that bad boy got selected. Yeah.

At day end. Imagine you just... Pow, selected. You could be born as a domestic house cat. You could be born as a fucking German Shepherd. You like German Shepherd. Yeah.

You could be born into a nice suburban family, sit by the fire, you know, get fed green beans every day. Chase squirrels. Or you could be a fucking, God could make you an Impala in the Serengeti in the first day you get lunched by a cheetah. And by the way. Lunched, hawked, selected, kilt. Merked.

Merced. Yeah, I got a lot of, a lot of verbs to signify annihilation. of this baby Impala. And the Impala was alive the entire time. That's... I heard bones cracking. There was a point... I'm not laughing.

It's a circle of life. There was a point where the Cheetah was biting into the Impala. And I think it broke the Impala's neck. So I don't think the Impala could really feel anything, if that makes you feel any better. It was biting into the stomach. And at one point, I guess he, like, punctured something and it just sprayed.

Oh my God. And the Impala was like, ah, so fucked up, dude. But that shit happens every day in the Serengeti, bro. Yeah, I believe it. Yeah, so also did some water projects. Oh, hard right turn. Yeah, so we did, we visited a couple well sites and we are north of 360,000 people served

with clean water, our goal is a million. We're at 85 Wells. We're rolling. So it was good to have all the guys and girls there. Safari's pretty crazy. Pretty cool. That's awesome. Waterboys.org.

Yes. We have a William Hayes pod coming early next week. Yeah. We should do a Friends of the Pod well. Yeah, we should. That'd be great. Yeah. Guys.

If everybody gives a couple bucks, we could get there. We could get there. Let's do it. I'll put green. we'll put a plaque on a green light pod listenership love it um yeah so condolences to that impala um and yeah i'm back i'm happy monday 10 a m pulled out of my hotel in arusha tanzania walked in the door this is 10 a m eastern time walked in the door 7 p m tuesday 30-something hours of travel i'm feeling good though i'm a i'm a podcast

machine. Let's get into the combine, shall we? Okay, let me, as per custom, I just wanna hit the rest of my 29s, it'll take like eight seconds. Oh yeah, hit him. Never nervous, Purvis Ellison, Paul Silas, Rod Carew, O'Jackson at Auburn playing baseball. Yeah, okay. Route 29 here in Virginia. Yeah, Route 29, Monachon Trail.

And yeah, Seminole. No, Monachon Trail if you go south. Yeah, I think both, yeah. Yeah, both can be right. And the guy I nearly went with, Adrian Beltray, made baseball fun. He hit dongs from his knee. Dongs?

Home runs. Yeah. And he wouldn't let people touch his head or his face. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was fun. Yeah, that's fun. It's quirky. Back when baseball was, you know, not just a bunch of cheaters.

Guys are getting pelted right now. Yeah. It's like dodge ball. It's fucking awesome. It looked like they're getting hit by paintballs. Yeah. I don't give a shit. It's going to be an interesting year.

I mean, listen, I told you I partied one night with Keikl and, um, um, younger, uh, smaller guy, Bregman. Bregman's so cool, dude. That's why I was so let down. I saw Bregman get hit the other day and I, uh, Bregman's at the very least an acquaintance. Shouldn't these guys save it for the, the pitchers for the regular season? I think we're just, we're just setting the tone.

Okay. The argument got hit and his face was like, what the fuck is spring training. Yeah. I mean like this is gonna be a long year. So combine going on right now, who gives a shit about baseball. Also gambling's going good.

I walked right in the door this week and I hit two nights consecutively, as you know, five team money line parlayes. Did you go night three or what? Night three didn't go as well. I was going. Michigan blue night three right off the bat. I was going to text you this

and decided against it because I'm your friend and didn't wanna mess with Mojo. Yeah, yeah. I was about to text you about 5 p.m. on night three, hey, if I gambled, I would fade your five tonight. Right, just, because I just think, just pick, yeah, you had two in a row. There were some ridiculous finishes for you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't think it would go well, night three. Would you do out of five on night three? Like three out of five. Oh, okay. But it didn't matter because Michigan blew it right off the bat, lost to Wisconsin. But night two was elected.

I mean, that night was Penn State and Virginia, up big. Virginia was up 26, 11 in Blacksburg. At halftime. At half time. I was wondering if Blackshear was going to outscore them in the first half because Blackshare's dad at Florida now. I don't think he did. He might have had 11.

My guy, Moms Diakite, outscored him in the first half. Oh, wow. 13 to 11. Yeah, yeah, he did. But then the Hoos. And then Kihei with the dagger. I mean, it was one of the most iconic. UVA shots in the past few years.

Yeah, it's up there. And, you know, on the heels of Walden Tensai, Woldi, because I'm not saying his name repeatedly the next few years. Yeah, Wolda Tensai, and only one more year. One more year, okay, good. So Woldi, knocked down that shot against UNC.

I would say Keyhays was even sweeter. Yeah, I'll go with Thomas's, Tom's, only because the Hues were down one at that point. Keyhays was tied. Yeah, it took stones. I mean, it really did to knock that shot down. Hey, nice to be able to talk about both.

There is some controversy inside the Virginia basketball family. Wolda Tintai has been Thomas this entire year to date. He shared before the tech game that he actually prefers Tomas. And yet asked afterwards, all of his teammates said, nah, he's Thomas, he's Tom, we're going to go with Tom. You're really on the name changes and what guys prefer. Yeah. There's been some notable changes over the past few years. Well, Tomas did what I really don't care for.

And he said, it doesn't matter. You can call me whatever you like. But if I had to pick, I'd go Tomas. Yeah, just tell me. Tell me. Yeah, just tell me. Yep. Who else did you mention that was preferring a different pronunciation these days in the sports world?

Oh, yeah. It was a coach, Nagy. Nagy. Nagy. If you go on the internet, it's Nagy, Nagy and Nagy. Come on, man. Pick one. Okay, so yeah, I needed Penn State to pull out the win.

They won on a buzzer beater. And they also blew a big lead. UVA won on essentially a buzzer beater. It was like a second left. Can you call that a buzzer beater? No. Can you call Notre Dame's a buzzer beater? Because I had Notre Dame as well.

They scored with 0.1 seconds left. So a game winner. Right. They had three game winners out of five plays. It's an actual stat that's kept. So literally you cannot call it a buzzer beater. Which is cheap. I think that's very cheap.

Because if you score with, is there a game winner stat? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Because those shots are great shots. And then the Notre Dame shot was essentially, it was akin to the shot that beat Purdue last year, Diukite's shot. It was a catch kind of, you know, holding the ball high release. And that was the fifth leg of my five-team money line parlay.

And I needed all that to happen. So right off the plane, your boy starts making money, back to business. And we've got Duke UVA, number seven Duke, traveling to John Paul Jones Arena to get this L tomorrow night. I don't give a shit. Let's hope. Duke wildly talented. Who's now fairly comfortably in the tournament?

I mean, you lose out. It's probably dicey. If you lose out, it's dicey. But what's our ceiling and what's our floor? Well, if you win out, you win the ACC tournament, and you're probably looking at like a four. There's still hope for my bet. Oh, that's right.

Yeah. Oh, golly day. I hadn't thought about that tomorrow. I'd say right now you're looking at like an 8-9. You beat Duke, you're looking at a 7. So you got Louisville on the schedule, perhaps 6, but most likely in that 7-8, 9-10 range. Who's the one seed you could see us actually beating?

Even though they're not big names, they're good. I would probably like to see Dayton. Yeah, Dayton. I mean, that, that, what's his name up there? Opie. Obie. Obie. Oby Toppin.

Golly. Has there been a guy who's going to create as much buzz going into the tournament, like an individual since, I mean, before Zion, who was the last one? I mean, this guy is like a man among boys. Yeah. Real good player. I like Tony when he's able to key in on one guy. Okay.

San Diego State, I think, is the real deal. Okay. I wouldn't mind seeing Gonzaga, although, one of those pods, different kind of pod is in Spokane, Washington wouldn't love that deal. No, Baylor looks pretty legit. Yeah, no thanks. Kansas legit. No thanks.

Maryland, probably a two. I would love to be a seven opposite Maryland. Oh, that'd be great. That would be dynamite. That would be dynamite. That'd be great. That piece of shit school. Okay.

All right. Anyways, a combine. So what do you think about primetime combine? I don't care about any of it. I'm good with prime time. I like that. I didn't even, that's what we're doing now.

I haven't watched it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's cool. I'll tell you about it. Okay. I'll tell you all about it. Great. First off,

let's read the Wonderlich score. And we haven't told the results. Right into that, huh? Yeah, well, so we basically took the Wonderlich right before. And I read, Cowboy Reed, like, tell me if I'm lying. I told you about the Wonderlich 30 minutes ago.

So I decided 30 minutes ago that we do, it's not like I've been studying. Oh, right. You could have taken it once and then taken it again. Exactly. Did you do that? Promise you I didn't. Okay. You walked in short on time.

They say the Wonderlick takes like 15 minutes, 10 minutes. That's your time? We had 12 minutes, 50 questions. That's standard Wonderlick, right? I think so. So I screenshot my results. And you did the same, I presume? Yeah, but we're...

Same time. Let's not do it. All right. You would definitely be wanting to do it if I was fit. Now listen, maybe I feel great about it. but it's all relative and my score is not as good as yours. I don't know. Maybe you're disappointed by excellence.

Well, and maybe you scored better and I'll never live it down. Yeah, you probably wouldn't. But also, I'm kind of a smart cookie. No, you are. Not like in some ways, but in some ways, yes. Wonderlich, et cetera. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're a smart guy.

Okay. And yes, to be clear, I feel like I did poorly. Okay. I was rushed. I ran out of time. The questions were stupid. I didn't feel great either. Okay.

Okay, so I'm going to go one, two, three, and you're going to say how many you got right out of 50. Out of 50, okay. Uh-huh. Ready? Yeah. Oh, right, wait, wait. Ryan Rissillo's FaceTiming.

You're saying go? Ryan Rissolos facetiming. Okay. Well, he's the most important, man. And, uh, hey, live. Hey, we're on a fucking pod, dude. Oh, he's hiking. He's in like Pike's Peak or something.

Yeah, there's snow. He's got like snow shoes and shit. Can we call you after the pod? Are you, are you safe? Yep. All right, you ready? Yeah, are you saying go after one, two, three? Yeah, I'm going to say one, two, three, and then I'm going to say my number.

It's kind of like rock paper, scissors. Okay, so let's just say... Rock paper scissors, shoot. We're going to say shoot at the same time, essentially. Okay, are you going to say your number quickly or kind of are you going to drag it out? I'm going to say it quickly. All right. One, two...

Whoa, is that the cadence? Yeah. Just go one, two, three, bang. Okay. Okay. One, two, three, 36. Oh, you mean me! But a lot, nice.

Yeah. Okay. So, I mean, you're a highly educated man. I wanted to get 50 out of 50. Yeah, well, that's your problem. 36 would do me just fine at the combine. No doubt. The average score apparently is 25.

Yeah, well, the average score, I was 72%. Average score is 51.26. Okay. And that's of people with college degrees, I feel like. Yeah. And the NFL, I mean, we've got some smart. in the NFL, but I don't think our average is 25. Yeah, I don't know.

I'll go on the machine here, just so we can be. That's with no practice. We just, we just, we just, uh. Ernst and Young here, accounting services, just so you can see. Yeah, yeah, you can see this too, hold on. Yeah, I would like to verify. I can, uh, oh no, is my eyesight?

Wow, okay, yeah. Well, for that reason, you wouldn't, you probably wouldn't get in the NFL. Your eyesight's going. Well, yeah, actually it's not, but I just. So we just raw dog that Wanderlick. Yeah. Hey, I think we can both do better.

We can both do better. But it was tough. Yeah, it was tough. It was really tough. So we did the Wunderlick. Let's measure your hands real quick, right? With Joe Burrow on the brain this week, I'm going to let you measure it.

Why? Well, because I'm in my chair. There you go. So we have a making gunner hand measurement. I'll be the witness here. The dirtiest tape measure. Talk to Cowboy Reed. I don't know what he's doing with that tape measure.

So I just, ow, I just go like that, huh? You measure from the base. What do you mean from the base? Oh. Okay. Oh, oh, okay. Yeah.

What you got? Well, you can verify. I think I'm Joe Burrowing this at nine inches. Wow. Yeah, you want to hold it up? Yeah, yeah, I'll make sure that we're right here. Now, Joe Burrow. I thought I would, because that's my problem.

That's my football problem. I can't. Grip the pill. Yeah. Yeah, let's see. Yeah, you might even be north of nine inches. You might be, you got bigger hands than Joe Burrow. Hootie-hoo.

Then how can he throw the ball? and I can't. Because he's a fucking athlete. Now, I'm not saying, yeah. By the, yeah, now,

Jordan loves hands was like 11. Yeah, that's crazy. Mine's 10. I think it was 10 from the combine. Yep. 10.

A fucking tan. What's high shoe? 14. Okay. So anyways, I'm just going to come out and say it. If you got small hands, I'm not going to say it.

No, it probably looks real, it looks, it's flattering looking in your hand. No. You know what I mean? So you got that going for you. Anyways, the combine, Joe Burrow, nine inch hands, okay? I don't, I'm not concerned about it. Are you? I haven't done enough research.

I'm, I'm sure there are examples of small-handed good QBs. Yep. Do you have those on you? Tom Brady was like nine and some change. Well, nine and some change. Yeah, but not a lot of change. Tom's was just overnight. Pat Mahomes was just overnight.

So yeah, I mean, hand sizes that. And listen, Joe Burrow, who's not working out of the combine, he claims part of it is he hasn't had as much time to work out as the rest of the guys. Part of it, I think most of it is that he has the least to gain doing this shit. He's going one.

because by the way Cincinnati if they do anything but select him at one they're risking like the biggest embarrassment in any pro football franchise history if he so much as

is a successful pro for a long time I think that you know them missing out on the hometown kid could be really devastating not to mention I think he's the guy now if Tua was healthy

if there was no hip thing I think you have a conversation there Yeah, well, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Feels like there are a whole lot of misses in the first round on quarterbacks, but I hear you. You got to take that shot. You have to. Listen, what made me feel as good, and, you know, the comps, ironically, for him into a,

you know, people talk about Tom Brady with Joe, and I do get that. One thing Joe does very well is he moves in the pocket really well. I mean, he's an athlete, he's probably a better athlete than Tom. He's definitely a better athlete than Tom. But he moves in the pocket similarly in that he buys time, his eyes are downfield. It's like he's swiveling. His hips are very, he's just athletically on point

to move and throw on the run. You know, they're throwing on the run and then they're throwing on the move. They're like two different things. And he does both of those pretty well. The one thing he doesn't do is he doesn't really have a big arm. And, you know, you look at him, and you say the junior tape's not great,

but also he was a transfer. Colin Coward, ironically, said he's not a great prospect. He's just a great story. That was one of the takes this week. I also remember Colin Cowherd, not remembering when he was interviewing Urban Meyer that Joe Burrow was ever at Ohio State. Right.

If you ever saw that. I did. So listen, I think if you're worried about his arm strength, that's one thing. He improved on a lot of throws from junior to senior year by just working. I think getting the system down, you know, some of the throws outside the hashes,

he's not going to be great at necessarily. It's going to be more timing. But he improved. He got his legs into his hips into it, and you can tell he was a different player. It wasn't just the boy genius effect there at LSU. I think, you know, if I'm picking one, I'm taking him. Jordan Palmer, who's been working him out, talked about him a lot.

And I thought he was pretty open about it, if you were watching the combine, which you weren't. But he said, well, what does he have to work on? He has to work on, you know, under center stuff. Everything they did at LSU was empty. You know, it's five out in the route. So, you know, he's gotta work on six and seven man protections. We'll work on play action pass.

These are things of your, Kurt Warner during the combine talking about it. He's talking about, you know, a lot of the reason you want to see these guys taking snaps under center who have in his timing. It's a different game. It's more anticipatory. You know, the five man stuff is cool. because in some ways you have to work on a lot you have you have to be really sharp pre-snap you have to motion guys out etc but you have to work on the under-center

stuff and I know that the game's going more shotgun more spread it out but you still need to be able to do that sort of thing in most offenses so you know he's the flip side of that is he's been really good against the blitz because teams will blitz you if you're gonna if you're gonna do that empty shit and that's gonna help him. The pre-snap stuff is good. But Kevin Falk, who's on their staff and played with Brady, when they asked him, you know, who does he remind you of? He goes, that's Tom Brady. And that's a nice endorsement. But I'm not worried about the fumbling. The kid grew up in, I mean, he had four fumbles, I think, senior year. Kid grew up in Ohio. It's cold and then played down in the heat in the SEC.

And they say when you got small hands, and you could, you could corroborate. I was about to make a, like a, A little baby hand joke, and you jumped in front of me there. I'm sorry. Okay, go ahead. Take my strong hand. Yeah, I don't even know that reference. It's from a movie. I think it's like scary movie or something.

But yeah, so, you know, sweaty palms. Yeah, less sweat. Knees are weak. Arms are heavy. Yeah. Down there. Bommet on my sweater already. Yep, like Donovan McNabb.

Yep. Down there with, he's nervous. and he's got small hands, he's in the SEC country. It's going to be hard to grip the ball. I mean, it's sweaty, but, you know, four fumbles, not bad. It doesn't seem to be a turnover machine, so I'm not worried about that. So I think he might continue to improve.

You know, I don't like looking at him like a one-year wonder. I mean, how many people, unless I'm forgetting something until the injury happened at Bama, Tua wasn't a known commodity. So this stuff happens. And a lot of these quarterbacks in the first, that we're talking about have had weird paths. I mean, whether it's Eason, you know,

who's a Georgia, kind of like two years off, then he comes on the scene, senior year in Washington. Who else in that first round? Herbert? Herbert. And it's funny because you kind of know it's Tua and it's borough, pick your poison,

whichever you like. You know, then the next three quarterbacks are a little bit more question marks. They're all kind of polarizing. Eason, Love, Herbert, even Fromm

and Hertz, they've all got like these flaws and that's kind of how the way it is but you know who I think got a really bad bad draw here is Fromm

because he was throwing because it's alphabetical he was throwing right in front of Eason and Fromm if you saw any of his throws yesterday looked really uncomfortable throwing the deep ball and Eason is just a fucking Juggs machine

and you wonder with him Is he going to be more Carson Palmer or is he going to be more Brock Osweiler? They're kind of like the big guys, not very mobile, big arms. And I've heard the Carson Palmer thing with Ysen. And yet, Fromm, what's the reason Easton left? I know, yeah.

Georgia? So they're throwing right next to each other. And, yeah, it's just, Eason kind of big dictum with the big cannon. It was a bad draw for Fromm. Now, he's very accurate. shorter throws, intermediate throws. So I wonder if you're an evaluator,

like how important those deep balls are. I mean, if you feel like there's a ceiling with a guy with a weaker arm. Now, we've seen some weaker arm guys that have been sensational quarterbacks in the NFL, but I wonder how much you factor that in. You know, love is making a push to be a first rounder. Now, the problem with him is that he had that great 2018

is 2019, from what I understand, was really bad. And I hadn't watched a lot of his tape. I mean, like if he's on TV, I watch him, but I haven't studied him, I'll take your word for it. Everybody says he was absolutely dog shit in 2019. But he's a guy who could rise. Herbert, listen, if Tua's hip's not right,

is somebody in the top five gonna reach for Herbert? Yep, six six. Say no more. This dude throws the piss out of the ball, but we knew he'd throw the piss out of the ball on air. I mean, that was kind of, you know, he's got a big arm. It's just kind of...

Actually, I didn't know the ball had any piss. Yeah, there's piss in there. And then you've got this kid at Washington State, Gordon, Anthony Gordon. Could he be like the next little gardener minshue? Like a lot of people talking about Gordon say, you know, he hasn't played football a long time. He was a baseball player for a really long time. You don't know what you're getting. There's not a lot of tape on him.

But he threw the ball like 700 times at Wazoo. So it's like, you know, it's a ton of throws. It's not a big sample size, but it's a ton of throws. And Sage Rosenfels, who I really like, says he's got the quickest release in the class. He projects him to be a second rounder. He'll rise. But I've also heard he could go undrafted. So, I mean, like, you know, there's a bunch of questions outside those two guys.

And there's always questions with the quarterbacks. I do, I'm buying Joe Burrow. I'm buying to a if they're healthy. And ironically, those top two guys are being compared to the top two prolific touchdown throwers of the past decade in Brady and in Russ. And I really do see the Russ thing.

I heard Bernal as a comp too. Hey, by the way, Brady, round six, Russ, round three or four. I mean, this thing is a total crapshoot. It's a crapshoot, man. If anybody tells you they know how it's going to work out. It's also a really dangerous, if you take away the pocket factor,

and by that I mean the money, it's a dangerous thing to be really good at coming out of college. And your whole life could be wrecked. Think about it. If you're considered like just a massive quarterback bust, like that's the first thing people look at when they see you. And I think that's kind of fucked up. Like you meet somebody in the street,

they're not judging you off like, you know, Jamarcus Russell, the guy. Jamarcus Russell could be like the best person. He could be a saint. he could probably cure cancer and people remember that he was a bust. So it just, it's, it sucks to be a quarterback in a way. Now, you get paid, and if it works out, you're a god,

but I do feel for these guys. Now, Jalen Hurt, hurts, multiple hurts. Jalen Hurtz is, is an interesting one because he's played in two like really kind of complex offenses, if you listen to people talk about it. but the processing is what people are worried about there.

He looked really good on air. He looked very good on air last night. He looked better than from. And I think he's got really good and tangible leadership qualities. I wouldn't be surprised if you see New England at 23 because it's sounding like Tom's not coming back, but that could all be posturing leverage.

You're not buying that. Nah. Listen, I think he's leaving, but if he's gone and you're in New England, you've got a bunch of guys who are free agents and are not going to take those haircuts

they usually would have because you had a Tom Brady there as a guaranteeer of success or relevancy. You know, you've got guys like McCordy. You've got guys like Joe Thuny, Tuni, however you say that. One of them, yeah. Yeah, it's one of them.

I play with the guy. I just don't know how to pronounce his last name. He's a really good player. I called him Joe. He might change his name at some point. He might change the pronounce. at some point. Joe is on the market.

So you've got a great interior line and you've got a great safety. Where do you want to use these picks? Are you going to rebuild because you know you're going to lose everybody and it's like what's the point? I think you have to take a quarterback at some point.

I don't think, how do you pronounce the guy's name that's the backup? Stidim. Jared, Stidim. Stidham. It's another tough name. Yeah.

I don't think he's the answer. I could see them snagging somebody like Yusin or even Jalen Hertz. Hertz ran a 4.59 by the way. Yeah, it was a nice time. Had a good broad jump. It was like 10-5. He just, he looks the part to me. Now, the processing is one thing.

I'm going to say nah. You don't like them? No. Yeah. Zero analysis. Yeah, you're just like, yeah. Now, I'm looking at it. at these, of all these guys

that are kind of in that that I'm not sure about it class, I mean, I don't know, we won't put Herbert in there. These guys that could conceivably fall out of the first round. Love is intriguing because when I look at a quarterback, I look at the

ceiling and college coaching is good, but you know if you can get him in the right system with the right coaches, I mean, imagine him with Frank Wright. You know, imagine Herbert with Frank Wright. You're gonna get the best out of this guy, and the best was 2018, and it was pretty damn good. He looked like a first half of the first round guy.

You got something against Gary Anderson? Gary Anderson. Head coach of the Utah State Aggies? No. Okay. I just, listen, I look at quarterbacks and look at their ceilings. I mean, there's very few quarterbacks who are gonna be good in any system in any situation.

We talk about this. You know, I always use the Nick Foles discussion. You know, Nick Foles, legendary quarterback in Philly, one of the best. 10.6.3 inch hands. That makes sense. How do you mean? It's just these big hands.

Got you. You know, he had his floor was very low in St. Louis. This was bad system. Jacksonville got bench. Bad system. Bad team. Record setter with Chip Kelly, Super Bowl MVP with Frank Reich.

and Doug E.P. So I look at the ceiling. And for me, you know, an intriguing prospect would be loved there. So Herbert ran well, 465. I think he could end up in Indy.

And if Tua's hip doesn't check out, he could be in the top five. I don't know. Somebody's going to fall for that big son bitch. Myself included. Yep. A little concerned about the hair. I don't know what he has going on there.

It's good flow, right? It's good flow, but I don't know what he's doing. Yeah, I'm not sure what he's doing. I know exactly what the fuck Joe Burroughs doing. Ooh, well, sort of. Andy Dufrain, and that's questionable, I think. He got that fresh haircut.

The guy from Hawaii cut his hair, too. Meanwhile, I rolled up to the combine with a bowl cut. That was like what was cool in 2008, along with baggy suits. We'll get to that around the draft. Also, I saw Kelly Bryan on TV for the first time, unless you're watching Missou. Last from the past.

Yeah. Impressive looking guy. So, you know, that was kind of the quarterback, you know, landscape. You've got the wide receivers, C.D. Lamb, who's everybody's darling right now, learned that his nickname has been DVD. Didn't know people were still doing DVDs. No, I don't, yeah, he's not obsolete. I don't understand why his nickname is DVD.

He compared himself to DeAndre Hopkins. I could buy that. You know, when you're talking about a guy that caught balls from three really good quarterbacks, I think two Heisman winners and a runner up, in Murray, Mayfield, and who else do you catch a ball from? I know. Take your time.

I wouldn't rush something like this. You wouldn't rush something like this? No. I'll get back to it. Three 800-yard seasons, three different quarterbacks, and one of them, my brain is fried. He was last year's guy. Last year's guy at Oklahoma?

No, two years. What the fuck? You're in a bit of a pretzel here. Yeah. Who have you named? I've named Murray, Mayfield. And that guy we've said a lot over the last three minutes. Jalen Hertz.

There you go. Jesus. Nailed it. Yeah, it's the jet lag. I'd get there. I'd get there. C.D. Lamb ran well. Looked awesome catching the ball. looked great running routes.

Rugs ran like a 4-28. You probably heard about that. Yeah, love rugs. What kind of rugs? Like area rugs. Yeah. Saisal rugs. Yeah, sysel's good.

Yeah. Feel good when you step on a sysel rug. Yeah. Runners. I love runners. Yes. Nice runner in the hallway. Yeah.

Where are you on stair runner? Love stair runners. Got a really nice stair runner at the house. Yeah. So rugs ran a 4-2-8. and when you were looking at the list the guys who were run you know in that upper echelon historically in the combine big cat tweeted something about it he was like i don't know if that's a good thing the names on that list they didn't go on to have like very good careers in the NFL um also

there's a guy from southern miss that ran a 435 and in group two they had two wide receivers under a 4 3 i don't know if i'm reading this right and 7 between 4 3 and 4 4 it's like holy shit and The sleepers I'm looking at, the kid from Liberty. Oh, yeah. Gandy Golden. He's very good. Very good. And they were singing his praise about his route running,

obviously his size, his athleticism. Seems like a good kid. Well, that's the thing. If everybody's going to be so fast, differentiate yourself otherwise, be a good route runner. Do something. Be physical. Hands.

Catching the ball would be advisable. Joe Reed had a really good day. Virginia's own. A lot of good numbers there. Working out a bit at, running back, I was told, as well. He can do it all. Ty Montgomery.

And that's a way that he can differentiate himself. Now, you look at those receivers, there's probably going to be three at least in the first round, and C.D. Lamb, Rugs, Judy, and possibly Jefferson, the kid from LSU. He could kind of climb and end up in that bottom of the first round. If you're the Eagles, I don't think, I don't know if any of those receivers are going to fall to him.

I was reading, you know, people are concerned that they're gonna be kind of empty-handed because the next kind of crop of receivers aren't quite as good at plateaus a little bit. If you're really in need of a receiver, you wanna get one of those three guys. I do like Jefferson. And the kid Claypool,

who's kind of a receiver, but they're talking about tight end. Yeah. They're talking, what, eh? Saw them live. You don't like them? I pass. Really?

Yep. Now the the the stat that everybody's seen over the last 24 hours is the only guys that have been I'm trying to do it off the top of my head but it's six six foot three or six foot four and two three plus and ran a sub four four five there have been two guys okay can you think of the second claypool in in this year's crop or ever no ever um Tio megatron so you know that's pretty a company to be in. By the way, my analysis, I watched games from behind binoculars and only

follow the ball in this. Yeah, so let's take it for what it's worth. Probably had an average game against Virginia and that's why I'm out. Probably unfair. But hey, I've made my decision. That's good. He's out. And, you know, he's been very willing. I mean, his interviews, I like the, he was like, I'm willing to switch tight end. I expect to play special

teams, all that. That's all well and good. The Mizzou tight end made some money. He ran pretty well. the only guys who ran faster than the Mazoo kid were historically Dickerson, Vernon Davis and Ingram, no, Doran Dickerson of Pitt, 2010, I believe it was. By the way, did you see Vernon crying, Davis?

Recently, his acting. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you grade that? Is it a zero? One to ten is my scale? Yeah. No. It was unfair to put him on the spot.

Nobody asked Leonardo DiCaprio to act when he's in a fucking interview. Yeah, no. He should have told them to shove it. He should have told them to shove it. Congrats to Vernon Davis on retirement. Yeah. Playpool, six for 30 against the who's. Yeah, well, I mean, Virginia defense.

Anyways, Mitchell Wilcox, the South Florida tight end. Did you see him get hit in the head by a football? No, that sounds funny though It fucking hit him really hard Like right in the temple I'm surprised he didn't drop But he kept running down the line And catching footballs

Hard in the temple Sounds less funny than just hitting the head With a football Exactly It could have been serious But it wasn't Gotta be pretty embarrassing Is it more or less embarrassing

Than your dick falling out Running a 40 like Chris Jones Well Less Chris Jones was quoted after that whole incident and saying, I looked down and the Hummer was out. Did I read that right?

He had a name for his unit. Yeah. Remember when I didn't want to talk about such things? H2, H3. There's a difference. Have you talked about your cheating at the combine too much? No, I haven't. And we can close the show with my

compound experience but I do want to look ahead and by the way did you see the sled drill okay when I told you before the show started that I didn't watch any of it I didn't know if you watch you watch Sports Center no sports center what is it 2002 no I don't watch Sports Center wow what about at midnight nah I mean a lovely fellow that Scott but no I don't here's what I watch standings on my computer here yeah ACC hoops I'd expect to get the insight without watching Sports Center. I just stare.

I watch the actual ball games. You watch the ball games. Highlight packages. Is there a good college basketball ball game tonight? It's Friday, so probably not. Really getting into that now. Davidson at Dayton, your boy, Obie. I might watch that one.

They get this sled now. And what I wonder about the sled, and everybody's seen Fred the sled is what they're calling it. It's a really tricky sled. They had it on NFL fields. It's counterintuitive because you think about a sled. You see people driving a sled. They want to pick it up.

But it's for your hips, so you want to drive it straight forward without lifting. And guys look super awkward doing it. And I kind of wondered, you know, were they working on it? Was this made available, this information to folks going into the combine? Were kids practicing on this sled because they didn't look very good doing it? And by the way, Mike Vrable, I thought it was kind of telling, I don't want to, he was, he was being interviewed as they were doing Fred the Sled. And they were asking about, you know, Tannehill and Derek Henry. And I don't, I don't know if he, they asked him about both those guys. And I think

he said a lot more, I don't think he said anything about Tannhill. I think he said a lot more about Henry and how bad they want him back. So sometimes it's not about what you say, it's what you don't say and I don't know if that bodes well for Ryan Tannehill in Tennessee. Your pants sure do look comfy. They are comfy. My lovely wife Meg got them for me upon re-entry to the United States. The rare, uh, the rare comfortable fancy pants. You think they're fancy? Yeah, they're fancy.

Fancy pants. Nice. They're Lulu Lemon. Yeah. Nick Foles brand. Nice. Um, as I'm looking ahead at the combat, I'm looking at, uh, the D-Limon. I'm excited to see Kinlau.

Okay, so Ken Law is a kid in South Carolina. And we mentioned before on this show here. Very twitchy. This kid, I know a lot of people are talking about Derek Brown. I'd seen Kinlaw as like a bottom of the first round kind of guy. I think he could rise. I think he rise pretty fast. And he's going to test really well.

He's going to have a great combine. I think he needs work, just like Derek Brown does. You know, I watch both of them and Derek's more polished at this point. but Ken Law's upside is. His comp is Chris Jones. That's what I was reading. I could see that. He's a disruptor.

I don't think he's naturally a pass rusher is Chris Jones. I think sometimes his feet get narrow and he can kind of fall down and get awkward at times. But man, if you put him in a one-gap scheme and let him go, he's going to be a son-a-bitch to block. Now, Chris Jenkins is the Derek Brown comp that I was reading. I think he's a dude who would fit well in Detroit. That's the defense that they need fixing.

And also like Maddie P, coming from the Bill Belichick tree, he's gonna be really into those SEC guys. Now, Chase Young, one interesting thing about him, what do you think he weighed in at? Chase Young, 25. 264. I've seen like people kind of lazily apply the job Julius Pepper's comp.

And I've also heard the Jvon Kirst thing. JPEP is pushing three bills at all times on the football field. Yeah. That's a little light. No, I love his tape. I'm not going to second guess this kid. Epinessa from Iowa, I'm excited to see him.

I was thinking he was like a Carl Nassib comp. He's got power, he's got length. He could play in the three, four, in the four three. I think he's probably better suited to be in like kind of a hybrid defense. like a Pittsburgh type thing. I think he's a mid to late first guy.

He's got some upside. I wouldn't reach for him in the top five to 10. Honestly, he reminds me of a less twitchy, me played like a less twitchy me in college, but a stronger. He's stronger than me. I'm not saying he's better or worse than me. And I would have said the same thing about me.

Like, take me in the 10, 15. I don't know about top five. But that's why I wouldn't reach for this kid in the top five. I really wouldn't. He's big, he's long. I don't know that he has the bend. He's 6-6-280, so he's a bigger version.

I'm not comparing to myself. That's why I like the Nassive comparison. You know, they've got the kid and... Didn't you just compare him to yourself? A less twitchy, stronger me. Okay. But I was watching him and I was like, yeah, you know what?

It's, he doesn't necessarily... He's not, like, incredibly bendy at the top of the rush. I don't think he has the twitch that somebody like, you know, a truer defensive end, a 4-3 defensive end has, but he plays with length and power and he's got a good feel getting off blocks. He's got a good feel in the rush. The kid at LSU, what's his name, Chisun? Chis-on. I would guess Chison. Chison. Yeah. He's got a funny number, 18. Yeah. I think he's going to have to test well. He's more of a true, true-edge guy. not going to have his hand in the dirt. So I'll be interested to see that. Chase on.

Chase on. Kay Levan Chase on. It rhymes. This is how our LSU sports. That's pretty fucking cool. Yeah. K. Levan, chase on. K. Levan.

K. Levan. Chase on. Good for him. A great name. Chris Long doesn't run. Boring. My Combine. We could do a whole pot on this.

I had Cowboy Reed pull up my stats. they weren't actually as good as I thought. Well, I knew they weren't good. They were good in some areas. My prep, I trained at Poreseys up in North Jersey. I used to take the train, the Amtrak up there, for long weekends. Back when some of us were still in class. On grounds.

Yeah, on grounds, as you call it. Now, I used to take the train up there and train like four days a week and come back down. And listen, the way I approached the combine was you could kind of perfect certain things but don't overthink it, especially if you're a player who's slated going to top 10, 15. I feel like you can fuck things up better than you can fix them

in a couple of months span. And I understand there's a lot of minutia to sprinting and certain techniques and whatnot, but you know, like you can get into trouble reinventing the wheel. And some of this combine training is way, way overboard. Now my experience at the combine

was, I guess the most memorable meetings. And it was, it was stressful, but, you know, it kind of is what it is. And I competed at everything, except for the bench press. I made up an injury. It wasn't a main. You lied? Yeah, fuck yeah, I lied. You cheated on your vert and you lied about your bench.

Yeah, dude. I'm like a Houston Astro. Yeah. And so when you do go back to get that degree at Fichina, I might not bring up those two things. We have an honor code. Yeah, but the honor code doesn't accept. extend to the combine. Bufone. It extends everything.

Does it? Yeah. Well, then you probably shouldn't have your degree. Heck, no, I haven't lied. Ever? Uh-uh. About anything. Uh-uh. You're so full of shit. No, I haven't. So I hurt my wrist in the bowl game, but it was pretty healed. But I also knew that I'd probably get about 10 reps on the

bench. Pretty healed. That reminds me of Buddy healed. Buddy healed. Yeah, yeah. Sacramento King still? Yeah. Yeah. Shout out to Kyle Guy. Sacramento Kings Farm System just dropped like 40 the other night. He drops 40 like every night. Speaking of shoutouts, Corey, John and DeMarco, two men in a truck, really three men in a truck if you think about it.

Listeners of the pod. Really? Yeah. Had some things moved while you were in East Africa. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The guys that helped you, what did you have moved? Thanks.

Oh, good. Yeah. So the movers walk in and they say, hey, you're the guy from the pod. Well, yeah, more so you know, hey, you know Chris Long more than... I get the, you know, making gunner a lot. Thank you. Yeah. But they listen.

Corey, John DeMarco. Shout out to them. Keep on moving. That's right. Herm Edwards in the interview process, the way it is you get siphoned into these hotel rooms. And like, it's like a hallway and you go into me with each team and whatnot. I popped in and he was with the chiefs at the time. They ended up drafting Glenn Dorsey.

And I've told this story before, but like I'm sitting in there, they have a projector, they have all the coaches, you kind of generally sit there and talk to the coaches and answer questions, they ask you questions that are on the board. Halfway through the meeting, I'm thinking to myself,

where the fuck is Herm Edwards? And I look in the bathroom, which is in the back of the room, and he's sitting in there on like a desk. He moved a desk into the bathroom. With the light on. So weird. Very weird.

And I'm like, okay, this guy either hates me or loves me, and he just doesn't have any questions or he's like, we're not drafting this fucking guy. Yeah. Was he just looking for some quiet time away from the rest of the group? I don't know what he was doing. At some point, I want to ask Kerm Edwards why he was sitting in the bathroom

while I was answering all those hard football questions. Maybe he does his best thinking in there. He might. Yeah, I mean, Jerry Jones said this week that he was thinking about Des Bryant in the shower. Right. Did you hear that sound bite on Sports Center? Sounds familiar. I didn't watch the...

Yeah, well, because Des wants to make a comeback. and shout out to Des Bryant for paying his bets. I made a large bet with Des Bryant on the Virginia Cavaliers and Texas Tech Red Raiders and the National Championship. Shout out to Des Bryant. Doc, major dockage of points for Danny Amandola who owes me a tattoo.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, I remember that. Texas Tech Red Raiders vanquished. Danny Amandola, I'll get a tattoo if we lose. Haven't seen it. By the way, remember when I gave you that tip about, uh, state falling on its face against Carolina. Yeah, that was good.

That was a good bet the other night. Oh yeah, you owe me $100. Well, I don't gamble. If you did. Also, Tony Sparano gave me some shit. God rest his soul, he was hilarious. He was like, he had the sunglasses on inside. I was chugging water to weigh in at 272.

I was probably like 265, to be honest. Of course, they would have held that against me. And Chase Young, they think he's a Greek God, which he is. They would have said I was underweight. I wonder why. Now, I walk in there, I've been chugging Desani like it's fucking pledge night at a frat house. And, you know, he's interviewing me.

And he's like, no, I saw you in there. Chugged about eight waters. What's going on with that? And he adjusts his sunglasses. And I'm just like, holy shit, what the fuck do I say? That was the hardest question I got. I never got any of these weird. What did you say?

I said, I'm trying to stay hydrated. I got a fucking sprint. Like, you want me to, I'm fast. Fast people pull hamstrings. Right. I don't want to be one of those guys. Right. You know, I guess the one awkward thing

was I wore white compression shorts because that was kind of what I was training. I'm real particular about how my compression shorts feel. And when you wear white compression shorts, you know? I do actually. So that was weird. Also, I did cheat on the,

tried to cheat cheat on the vert. I put some tissue paper in my gloves because what they do is they measure you and I've told this story before, but they measure you, see how far up you can reach. So basically I reach to show that this is my reach and then I slip some tissue paper in my gloves so I could just up my vert, which was a 34,

which was just fine. Impressive, if you ask me. And they caught me. Right. Who gave you this? idea. Me. Really? Yeah, yeah. Genius. Diabolical, but genius. Yeah, you know. Also, yeah, like I said, like I said, I got out of the bench because I said I had hurt my wrist. And then after the combine was all done, I loaded up on hurricanes, 40 ounces. That was still a thing for me at that

point and I had never not drank for that long in my collegiate life. I had abs on abs on abs. Haven't seen them since. That was a sad day when the combine ended. So yeah, that was, it was a cool experience. I mean, a lot of pressure, big release when it's done. I was supposed to be like a top five pick. So I certainly could have not worked out, but I wanted to be competitive. And I understand why Joe Burroughs not working out or, you know, maybe some other players. But, you know, I wanted to get out there and mix it up. My numbers were 6.3, 272. I've lost 20 pounds. Arm length 32 inches. I don't know if that's very good. Hand size 10 inches. 475 and a 40. Don't think I could do that anymore. 153 in a 10-yard split. Now this is where this is good. That's the 91st

percentile homeboy. Nice. Yeah. Last year that would have, that would have been, I believe, first among all. Here's to show you how springy I was, but how slow I was at top speed. Montez Sweat ran a 4-4-1, didn't he? He ran a 4-4. Yeah.

I had a faster 10-yard split than him. Wow. I lost three-tenths of a second in the 30 yards after. To be fair, rarely are you running 40 yards? You need to be, have loose hips. Yep. Be quick twitchy. Yep.

Shout out to Cliff Averill. He ran a 152. He just edged me out. But I'm looking back at these numbers. 34, vert, 275, 20-yard split. 20-yard shuttle. That was another strong point for me, 4-1. Nice.

Yeah, so I had a good combine. You had to pick your senior year at Virginia. Did you score? No. I got tackled by the quarterback. Carolina? Yeah, John Copper didn't pick. up a block. Not my fault.

Aaron Campman was my comp. I was reading about myself today. Yeah, well, white guy. Hey, listen, I bested him. And I used to really look up to Aaron Campman, so that felt good. 58. That meaningless stat, he had 58. I had 70.

Yeah. So, you know, yeah, it was all in all. Fuck, man. I look back at that thing. It was like a blur, man. It was so much pressure. I think it's an unnecessary amount of pressure. I think that, you know, these guys, they have to do a good job of realizing what's important, what's not.

You know, I was like, and I had Cowboy Reed print this out real quick to close this thing. As you watch these quarterbacks throw, and I watched them last night, I know you didn't. It doesn't fucking matter, okay? NFL's Bucky Brooks on Ryan Mallet. It was his performance during the throwing drills that thrust him into the conversation as a potential franchise QB. He threw the ball with zip, velocity, and his accuracy stood out. Yeah. Here's some words on Blaine Gabbard.

If he throws the ball well at his pro day, he could join the conversation as the number one pick. And obviously he was a high pick. Gil Brandt on Gabbard. He couldn't have done better had he borrowed Drew Brees' right arm. Hmm. Drew Brees, big old hands, by the way. Big hands.

Jake Locker. With Jake Locker showing signs of becoming a more complete pocket passer, he is starting to create a buzz about being a potential first round pick. they're all after that on field. And by the way, they had to throw fades last night. They all struggled throwing those fades. That's a new thing. And here's a Bortles quote.

Bortles didn't disappoint with the spotlight on him, displaying his smooth setup and release and tossing darts down the field. Bortle's accuracy and footwork on his three step drops were excellent, showing very good rhythm, timing, and precision to rip it with very good target placement. And then lastly, my good friend, Mike Mayock who I love.

And this shit is hard. I'm not shitting on people that were giving good reviews, but it's an inexact science and it means nothing to watch guys running around in underwear, throwing in underwear. There are certain things that you can take some

you can take some value from, but I don't think it's, I don't think across the board the combines the end all be on and I'll be all. Jake Locker's a special athlete. That's a really talented kid who has a first round potential, but it was struggled in the pocket. A lot of people are writing them off and I'm not. This is what guys say after the combine.

It's a crapshoot, as we said. I think the only thing we know for sure is Joe Burrow goes one. Watch my tape. Watch whose tape. That's just something people say. Oh yeah, watch the tape. Watch the tape. But we'll be back early next week with another green light pod.

30. Yeah, 30. Get back to some good numbers. Todd Gurley. I mean, 2,6. 7, 8, 9, it's a little rough out there. Yeah, yeah, you're right. But I'm sure we'll be talking about the Combine.

We'll be talking about the CBA, whatever comes out of that. And I might even drop another pot over the weekend. I watched a bunch of movies on my trip. Oh, y'all, Jojo Rabbit. Is that the one? You probably wouldn't like it. Phenomenal film. Great film.

I'll be reviewing Irishman. Terrific film. Okay. Jojo Rabbit. Okay. Irishman, Harriet, Lighthouse, holy shit, that's weird. I watched a couple documentaries,

George Harrison documentary, the Johnny Cash and Richard Nixon documentary. I watched a bunch of stuff. I might just rant about all this stuff and drop a pod this weekend. I finished up the Americans. If anybody wants to go on the internet, talk to me about the Americans,

be happy to talk back with you about the Americans. At Making Gunner. That's right. Good luck. And y'all take care. Take care of yourselves. Go, who's. Gohous. Have a great weekend.

Shock the world. Well, it wouldn't be that shocking. Duke lost a fucking Wake Forest the other night in double overtime. How do you get blown out in double overtime? 113. And Virginia is the defending national champion, so it won't be that bad.

Yeah, it's not going to be a shock. All right, y'all take care.