Green Light with Chris Long - Eric Dickerson! On His New Book, Stories from NFL, College & Living in LA. Daniel Jeremiah on NFL Playoff Outlook!

Episode Date: December 29, 2021

(3:00) - Hello, Layup Line, Devil’s Mayo Bowl, More Succession, Chris’ Fantasy Football Victory and MNF Recap. (25:17) - Eric Dickerson on His New Book ‘Watch My Smoke,’ NFL Career, Stories from Living in LA, Upbringing in Texas, Culture in Indianapolis and Being Challenged to Races at the Bar. (1:14:24) - GBU: Quick Lane Bowl and John Lynch. (1:23:34) - Daniel Jeremiah on NFL Playoff Outlook, Arizona’s Troubles, Pats vs Bills Round 3, Cowboys Worst Matchup, and Impressive Seasons from Davis Mills and Joe Burrow. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to the Green Light Podcast. Thanks for tuning in. Today we got a pair of heavy hitters. Eric Dickerson talks about his new book, Watch My Smoke, stories about his time in LA, his career in the NFL, some college football stories from his SMU days, and his childhood growing up in Texas.

Daniel Jeremiah, Chris's co-content creator on Amazon's NFL Next joins. We go over the NFL's Playoff Outlook, the Cowboys' Worst Matchup, Bill's versus Patriots Round 3 Davis Mills Joe Burrow

Marcus Davenport and some potential college football draftees In addition Macon and Chris talk the devil's mayo bowl

More succession hit a Monday night football recap and also hit a good bad ugly enjoy this one today folks I hope you all have a great day

Columbia Missouri Hello Why? Why not? Why? You know there's a why Arizona? Hello!

Why? I think there was probably a meeting and they were like, hey, we need a name for this place. And somebody was like, why? And they were like, perfect. That's great. Next order of business. Yeah. Fear mongering immigration.

Let the record reflect. This is a Columbia, Missouri. Right. Pod. Okay. Columbia, Missouri, home of, Missou, other side of the state from St. Louis,

been there once, drove through there once. John Ham, Tennessee Williams, fucking Cheryl Crow. She walking on sunshine? Or is that somebody else? No, but she's wiping her butt

with one square of toilet paper. That was the urban legend. Or was that a real thing? Matt's nod in his head and I asked him as real. He's like, I don't know. Over there patronizing.

Just agreeing with people. What's that song I'm, what's that song I'm thinking of? All I want. want to do. I don't know if I'm big into Cheryl Crow. Santa Monica Boulevard. I saw her live. She was, she was on another stage and Willie Nelson was on the other stage. So I walked by Cheryl Crow for a little while. And Cheryl Crow was pretty damn good live. But the toilet paper thing is just stuck in my head. So look up the sun.

Yeah. And Cheryl Crow has set a ban on using too much toilet paper should be introduced to help the environment. I agree. Only one square per restroom visit. I disagree. Per restroom visit. That's that's just like Except on those pesky occasions where two to three could be required. Oh, two to three, let's not, maybe she's just talking about number ones.

No, she's talking about number two is, dude, one square. That is antiquated. That's an antiquated mindset. I'm all for saving the planet. But let's start with like all the forms at the doctor's office.

Mm-hmm. Like how many, how many squares of toilet paper is that? If I have updated my insurance, I don't tell them. Yeah, it's the same. I don't,

please don't give me a form. They give you the forms anyways. Ah, you can just say it's all the same. You can try at least. It's a big time waste of paper. Anyways. No comparison. We're more solid than they are.

Me and hit boy, they say we like the new gangstall. We're doing the new Nas project, which I'm sure you heard. Yes. There's this song called Wave Gods. It's got some primo scratches on there. I don't know any of these words. I think the production on this album's great. The album's called What Magic?

And I don't think there was a lot of lead up to this thing. I think it was like a week of promotion and the Nas dropped the album. He's done like a ton of music in the last couple years. Anyways, I think this is awesome. I think the production on the album is awesome. Hit Boy is the producer who also did a Benny the Butcher album that I forget the name of that I really like. Yeah. You out on the road.

One more teacher children. Must have a code. Bomb. Nope. Okay. We're not going any further. And by the way. Two things about that.

Jerry Garcia played at the beginning of that, that song. Somebody reminded me of that, but we were talking about that before we came on the pod that day, that those guys were like, hey, Jerry, we trust you with starting this song out. And it was with, is it pedal steel or steel pedal?

Because I got our guy, Josh, I always fucked this up. I'm not really into saying words correctly. Petal steel? Petal steel. Petal steel guitar. Yeah, it's pedal steel. I think I said steel pedal last week

and our guy Josh who, you know Josh, Stack. Oh yeah, Josh. He's got a lot of music opinions. And one of them was like, hey man, you want credibility with the guitar people. You should probably get,

I'm like, oh, no, not really looking to be a musician. But Jerry Garcia's on that song. What do we got today? We got good, bad, ugly for old time's sake.

Yeah, we do. And a birthday shout-out. Oh, birthday shout-out. Denzel Washington. turned 67 which makes me feel old as fuck probably not him though because he looks 32 what's your favorite denzil film uh i think it was flight i think flight and that's uh training day in flight training day and flight i don't a lot of people say man on fire i think if you go back and look at man on fire you're not going to like it as much i'm not saying it's not a good movie

but i don't think it's aged as well as a training day i don't watch a lot of his work i've i've come to learn over the last 30 seconds. Which was a jarring thing to to hear. I don't know a single human being that doesn't like Denzel Washington movies. No, no, no. You said you also don't enjoy it. Go ahead. Okay. Well, maybe that's true.

Denzel's not going to hear the pot. He doesn't give a fuck. Something bad happens and then he saves it. Like that's not really my genre of film. I, what did I say? Inside man. I've seen that. Inside man. Okay. the guy's in the back. You got anything, Reed, Kingston?

Crimson Todd. We like Crimson Todd. Great performances from Gene Hackman. And Vigo Mortensen, James Gandalfini. Oh, Vigo. Young Vigo. Yeah. Steve Zon, Ryan Felipe, and that as well.

Wow. I love submarine movies. Crimson Tide's awesome. Quentin Tarantino actually wrote some of the lines for that script in an uncredited way. There's like foot stuff going on in the submarine. Just like inside the actor's studio. Just out of here. What?

Yeah. Oh no. Yeah. And I was going to connect it because Tarantino said that Unstoppable was one of his favorite films. Is that a movie about a train? It was a movie. And Denzel was a car. And Rosaria Dawson.

Rosario Dawson's in that one. It's a pretty good movie. Yeah. I wouldn't go that far. That's probably my second favorite Denzel. The second favorite Denzel movie is the train movie? Yeah. It's like shot one place.

There's just like, hey, there's a train. coming. Isn't Philadelphia a good film? Philadelphia is a really good film. That's the thing about these Denzel movies. A Pelican Brief has got to be number one for me. Not a Denzel film. You said watch Don't Look Up, huh? Despite its rotten tomatoes review. Yeah, we talked about it in the last podcast. Oh, really? Yeah. I go for I will go. Yeah, flight and training day. I want to make sure I know you said American gangsters. Offenses was really good. You guys watch a lot of movies. Like most people, we've seen many Denzel movies. You are talking about Howie Long's favorite actor. Howie Long's favorite actor, Denzel Washington.

Safe House. Equalizer. Oh, Equalizer's pretty good. These sound like awful TV shows on CBS right after 60 minutes. They all sound bad to you, huh? Malcolm X sounds bad to you. That one sounds pretty good. Glory sounds bad to you. You don't like the first African American regiment in the Civil War. Honestly, glory as a title, yeah, sounds pretty bad to me. The hurricane sounds bad to you. A song and a movie. but a movie more importantly about a young African-American boxer who was falsely accused of something terrible

Yeah, yeah that song These are all you hate these movies The titles, the titles remind me Of shitty CBS You don't like the Manchurian candidate Manchurian candidate might be up there dude I just saw that recently He got game dude, we could go for days

Devil with the blue dress That Duke Pep Band plays that one they also play every time we touch what is that? Cascada. Is that how you say it? You just. Hey, there was a comment in the, I thought it was I disagree.

Okay. But that guy, the guy who wrote the comment, Macon is a pussy. He probably didn't like the last 10 seconds. But bro, we're like broing out on Denzel movies. You're like,

but what about the Duke PEP band? I didn't see that comment. It was pretty funny. I just went through. And he put the star with the U. I was like, I know what you're writing. I disagree. Tough guy.

Thank you. Yeah, also, since we're in housekeeping of sorts, I do want to absolutely take a steaming dump on a Scott Van Pelt take from his SV pod, which is a lovely pod. It's him and our friend Stanford Steve, just shooting the breeze. I thought that was SVPOD,

like we're overdosing on SVP. because we see him every night on the TV show. Yeah, no, I can't OD on SVP, bro. He does such a good job at midnight. I'm just sitting there with my pen, you know, just kind of relaxing. You get to see Steve in the corner kind of just giggling and sport coat t-shirt. That's right. Just makes me happy.

It feels like I'm friends with those guys. And I am friends with them. We're friends with those guys. But I know that's probably how everybody feels watching Scott and Steve. Anyways, on the podcast, he said he liked an eggnog to man. Oh, you're, you're not going to like me anymore because these are lame sort of just terrible. They're not even takes. I've never had eggnog. No, it's a terrible take. It's a terrible take. I'm saying he's comparing eggnog to mayonnaise, dude. Manez is the devil's nectar. Eggnog is good. We talked about this.

Eggnog is good. Yeah. But isn't that like a, isn't it a bourbon? You put a bourbon in there? Yeah, but like just straight up eggnog, I would drink a gallon. How much money for you to drink a gallon on the air? Just go high. You would drink a gallon of eggnog for a hundred. He's a terrible negotiator. That's not a lot of money, I guess. No, it is a lot of money, but you could have easily gotten a few hundred out of me for a gallon of eggnog. So educate me. Eggnog in and of itself is not an alcoholic drink. No, dude. It's just an, it's a milkyy. like soda water. Then you put the alcohol in it. Okay. Yeah, it's really good. Reed, we're going to bring you a gallon of eggnog and I'll tell you what. I'll beat your price. I'll do 200.

Perfect. You got to do it on camera here. Good deal. And we're going to follow you around the rest of the day. We're like tag you like a shark to see how many times you squirt out of your butt. Reed, Reed's willing to go to the wall, man. And speaking of the devil's nectar, they just keep just more iterations as man-a-s shit and I get tagged and everything. I get some good content. Even though it's not a bit. I hate the stuff. They're going to literally put dudes in like an electric chair

after the games. They're going to strap them in. Figuratively. I can say that because they've moved on from that practice. Yeah. In most places in America, I think Texas checking in. Texas, you all still do that? Anyways, um, they put them in the electric chair and they pour mayonnaise all over them.

Like you don't have a choice. You, like I think we're doing, to like a ha ha funny if you win the bowl game the winning coach gets dallaston mayonnaise but they've taken a step further and I think in actuality if you're the winning coach of the Mayo Bowl Duke's Mayo Bowl I'll say the sponsor fuck it

I don't think you have a choice I think if you were to object you really would catch hell and that could potentially be Mac Brown am I right? Yeah Mac Brown that could kill Mac Brown dude Mac Brown is a senior citizen but you know what Mac Brown said which I like

Mac Brown said if we want a game I'd let someone hit me in the face with a frying pan. I don't care. Right. Can't kill Mac Brown, actually. I know this. We have moved on. Virginia abolished the death penalty.

But we're just keeping like the chairs in the back or something? They haven't outlawed the use of the electric chair by law yet. The article he's reading is from 2003. Okay. I was shocked, but, you know. Also, Shane Beamer. Your guy. I'm not a big mayonnaise guy.

I mean, I'll gladly take one for the team on that one if it means we won a football game, but woof. Parking our cars in the same garage there, Shane. Yeah. But you're a fucking corporate shale is what you are. If you're not willing to stand on your convictions as this stuff being dog shit, then you're just a corporate shell, Shane. I appreciate his being a sellout as one myself, but I don't, I'm not his biggest. This is a bridge too far. Hey, I'm going to harken back to the happy birthday.

Just came to me. Marcus Higgins. Oh, yeah. Wednesday the 29. Virginia football coach. Marcus Hagan's retained. No brainer. His group, the best in the country, all right?

Wide receivers just catching every pass. High point in everything. High point in everything, boxing out. High point in books. They're high pointing books. You walk into a classroom. They're like, give me the test first. Catches it, gets 100.

He recruits. Yeah. He represents his university and community very well. Yeah. No brain. He doesn't even want this. like this praise. Oh, right, right.

Yeah. We should probably move on. Yeah. But yeah, no, no, no. Happy birthday. And I've been watching Succession. Careful. Are we going to spoil anything for people?

It was put this way the other day when I was on with Ryan Rosillo. He was like, hey, three seasons in, I think it's fair at this point. And I think we're there. Okay. But just in case, skip ahead 30 seconds. And if we're still talking about it, do it again. It's fucking two buttons. If you're asleep at the wheel out there, it's not my fault.

Logan dies. I was about to say the exact same thing. Does he? No, I hope he doesn't. I mean, eventually I would hope so. You heard what I said.

I was about to say the exact same thing. I didn't say. Okay. So anyways, finished with season one. Nice. It's very good. Tom is the dumbest person I've ever seen on screen.

He's my favorite. There's a moment where he just accepts that he's a dumbass. It's his wedding. This is, yeah. Oh, the open marriage deal. my goodness but yeah no but actually his bachelor party was probably worse oh right right right where you guys know what i'm talking about that's the name of my uh fantasy team that's the champion tom wams

gans that's his last name i know i know i was trying to enunciate it just so you didn't slow the pod down but it's such a good show hey people say to me like on weekly on weekly basis that i remind them of freaking gregg the egg which i take as a compliment but i'm not i'm not putting on that act all right I was here first. You were here first. He's on your corner. Yeah. You don't remind me of Greg.

Okay. I also want to say that Colin is the funniest person on the show at this juncture, and he's a total fucking idiot. Who's Colin? Connor. Connor. Alan Ruck, formerly of Ferris Bueller fame. Oh my God. Yes, it is Ferris Bueller.

It's Cameron from Ferris Bueller. Oh my God. Yeah, I didn't watch that movie as intently as you did. But who writes for him? I mean, obviously, the guy who writes Jesse Armstrong, British guy. Sorry about, not that you'll ever hear this, but I thought your show sucked. It's actually pretty good.

I got something. What do you got? Officially, the Cucks are champions. Yeah, we won fantasy. Won the Fantasy League. Derek Henry, Liszt Frank. Don't matter.

Don't matter. Brandon Cook's COVID. Championship week, don't matter. Got the win. Got it by 33. Yeah, 33. 33 points and I don't think I was sweating the whole week. No offense, Tom.

Your three top performers, Debo, Samuel, Nick Chub, Mark Andrews. Would you like to say anything to your troops? To the charges? I appreciate y'all. We'll be back in two months. Like working out or? Yeah, working out. Okay.

Yeah, getting ready for the next go at this thing. I feel like you hear me say this a few times over the last week and I don't know if you're just humble yourself, but I really am proud of you. Thank you. I appreciate it. I think a lot of people didn't think I could do this, honestly. I mean, and there is the drafting this team on mushrooms thing.

I was going to talk around that. Okay, well, suffice to say it was a good year for the cucks. Boom or bust? Your guys boomed. Yeah, we boomed. We boomed. That's a good one. By the way, the houses, they won third place.

Yeah, good for the houses, little asterix. Which is. The whole forgot to set my lineup thing. Yeah, but that's not. Why do I, there's several people with asterisks because you, and I just mispronounce the word like you do, you often did not set your lineup. In fact, I think Dick's picks over there was setting your lineup half the time. Hey, we need to find a van though. Yeah.

The big winner here is the Lizard Kings. Everybody first seeing Matt Conrath, formerly of the Rams. Six foot eight. Six foot eight, not 300 pounds anymore. Once was 300 pounds, but he's got a ride around in a beater of our choice. So I've been looking on Craigslist. He went, he was five games clear of second to last.

He went one in 13. Do you think maybe he's looking for a new whip? You got a free whip. I think we get the car back after he has to drive that motherfucker around. I'm not spending $800 on something and not getting it back. Okay. I did that last year with the billboard. There's no,

you know, that billboard as soon as you drive it off the lot depreciates. You know, fucking read this one I found. yesterday. Have you checked to see if that billboard's down, by the way? They don't have you on like an auto deduct. Fuck.

Okay. I told them to take it down. Divorce Forces Sale. Damn. Ninety three Ford E350 passenger bus. Handicap equipped. Text only my new phone number. 757 and a bunch of others.

Divorce forces sale. Wow. Yeah. One dollar. One dollar. Located in Fichinia Beach. Seems like a situation where I, I might get murdered.

Divorce forces sale. This is a... But only for a dollar. Yeah, but this is the best part. The header, divorce dot dot dot, dot, passenger bus, one dollar. Yeah. Divorce, divorce, divorce, divorce. I got a car commercial.

Hey, we could do stuff with that bus. We could like green light bus. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Paint it green. All right, so it's time for Eric Dickerson now. you think you could tackle Eric Dickerson? No.

Right now? No. He's 60 plus. No chance. Do you think you could? Yeah, maybe. But like, probably not. Maybe when I played.

Yeah, but now, like, maybe not. Okay. That's three years that you really fall off a cliff physically. Hey, the Colts are apparently reaching out to quarterbacks. If you got a call, are you not a quarterback? You can't throw off. Maybe the Colts. Oh, you're saying just in general, I was saying if I was a quarterbacks, if I was a

quarterback, definitely not the Saints. I'm thinking like edge, you can stand up. You see what being the Saints quarterback gets for you? Let's talk about that game real quick. Ian Book. Ian Book. I thought he might look a little better. God bless you.

But he didn't have a whole lot of time. He didn't. I think eight to ten sacks there on Ian Book. Agba had a really good game. Listen, Miami played hard. Like a lot of times you sit there, it's 10.30 at night. You're like, God, this game sucks. I don't want to watch Ian Book.

It's like the worst game of the week. Even if the dolphins get in. Sorry, Miami Herald, but like they're probably not going to win a single game. And they're probably not going to get in, right? But don't tell that to the dolphins. They were out there hitting. They hit Kamara so fucking hard on 3rd and 31 in the fourth quarter. Kamara was like, what am I doing here?

And by the way, the Saints look fed up in that game. Like from the beginning, Marshawn Latimore, dumb penalty, just like fuck it kind of penalty. Then Wilkins is aggravating Kamara and knocking the ball out of his hands and stuff. Took his towel. Took his towel and then there's a personal foul. There's a mush. You've got to be really fed up with the

circumstance of your season and that sort of thing to like walk after somebody to mush them in the back of the head. He's not even sneaking up on him. He's just like fuck this. That team was tired. A team is tired. And Tua, I'm happy for him. Him and B. Flo might have found a situation where they're not married to each other, but there's a better chance that they're going to be together next year, which is awkward. Very awkward. Because I don't know about you, but when you tell me you don't like me and you got no use for me,

like eventually that's going to come up when the going gets tough in the future. 198 yards on 26 attempts. Just dinkin and Duncan. I love the completion percentage graphics that they throw up. They're like, here's Aaron Rogers and Tua. Best completion rates in the last six weeks. Air yards. Take away.

Two. Yeah. Tua. Tua, man. Like, I would just like to see him process like a quarter second quicker. Like a couple of these crossing routes that I'm like, okay, that's open. Like hit it, hit it. It's just not there.

And the Mack Hollins pick, listen, that's on him. I mean, he badly overthrew that ball. But overall, I think he played a pretty good game and he's tough. dude. It's third and four or something in the fourth quarter. You're up like 17-3 against a team that's not going to score another three points and he's putting his head down at the sticks.

I mean, he got blasted. I thought he was dead. He got up. The kid actually that took Godwin out is the one who blasted him. But Tua is really tough. He has my respect and not that matters, but we are a pretty popular podcast and now we're going to have Eric Dickerson on.

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If you're like me and you can't wait to get back into an NFL stadium, visit tick-pick.com. I got one of the all-time greats here. And on a franchise that has so many great players historically, the Rams, whether in L.A. or in St. Louis, so many great offensive players. He very well might be the best one of all time. Eric Dickerson, Pro Football Hall of Famer, absolute legend, great guy,

took care of me when I was in St. Louis. Eric, how are you, man? I'm good. How are you doing, Chris? I'm great. You got a book coming out called Watch My Smoke. Right, right. It comes out January 18th.

That's the drop date of the book. I'm looking forward to it. And, you know, and I think, and the reason I did the book is people always would say, man, man, you have so many stories, man. You should write a book. And my kids, I would always tell my kids stories, you know, when they were younger. You know, I make up stories. And both of my daughters, I always say my youngest, I would say, they had you the best storytell.

Yes. So I said, well, thanks. And like I say, just kind of pivoting to that. And I said, you know, I think I would like to do a book. So that's how that process got started. What are the type of stories you get hearing there? Because everybody knows the on-field stuff, but you've seen a lot at every level of things.

Well, I mean, you know, because I talk about everything. I talk about, you know, being in Indianapolis, you know, playing for the Rams, how that went down. A lot of people think that, you know, that was kind of like the, I was a guy out after the money and all that kind of stuff. But you got to understand the story, you know, and back in those days, the media was different.

You know, you didn't have a chance to, or you didn't have social media. You know, and the media wrote something, it was true people believed it. And that was the narrative. You know, you're a bad guy. You know, you're ingrate. You know, I was called things I never heard of.

I mean, I didn't know what the ingrate was. I didn't know what a malcontent was up in the country. I didn't know that. They recycled malcontent for OBJ, I think. There was like, you remember the unnamed source? It was like, I haven't heard that fucking word in football in 20 years. So, yeah. You know, whatever they started with me.

I swear. So, you know, I think the killing part was that had affected my mother, you know, I was saying, Eric, I hate that crap. You know, I hate it because I know how I raised you. You know, I know what kind of boy you are, you know, your son you are. And so, you know, I just feel like it was, it's a bunch of stories about, you know, my high school, my high school coaches, my high school coach, but, you know,

I love the game of football, the love I had for it. And I mean, when I said, I loved it, Chris, you know, you know the feeling, I loved everything about it. And I said, the sad thing about it is, it's the game that you love so much. And at the end, it's a game that made me hate so much. And it's not about the game. how they make you feel about how the NFL can treat you and how how you know how you know political things are and you know you know as well i think i'm pretty much every player knows how it can

be it's just like i say it covers everything covers my childhood from you know um when i quit football i got quit football at one point and the guy i never forget i'll take a quick story guy's name is james abernet and called him shack a little short guy from a town over 12 miles away called bookshare and um i didn't like my high school coach my high school coach i mean just making playing playing something. He was a racist. He had never coached blacks before. He came from East Texas and came to coach and all the black players quit. All of them, seven one. And so

he came by my house and I never to give you something to pull up. And I like Shaq. I think I was, I was a sophomore. And he pulled up and my mom said, that's Shaq outside. And I walked into him and say, Hey, Shaq. Say, hey, Ms. Dixon, how you doing? She said, can you have I take Erica talking for him? She said, sure, take me talk to him.

So I got in the car with him and he rode around my little town. And my town is only 2,000 people at that time, one red light. And so he said, He said, Eric, man, I said, I don't like that coach, man, blah, blah, blah. I just, you know, I just tell him how I felt. And he says, he said, Eric, he said, man, let me ask you a question. He said, so what do you see around him when you ride around this time? I said, man, I said, I don't see nothing.

He said, I don't see anything here, Eric. He said, let me tell you some son. It's funny how older people can see things you don't see with your kid. You know, think about it. I say, I was 16 years old. He said, Eric, he said, man, he said, look, he said, you're one of the best athletes you've ever seen in these parks. Now, I'm thinking, really? I mean, I'm 16.

I mean, I'm like, you say, Eric, I'm telling him. He said, we see something in you that we don't see in other kids. He said, you really should go back and play football. He said, I'm not saying that's your way out. He said, but it could be a way to get your scholarship. He said, I know your mind can't afford to senior to college. And they couldn't, they couldn't afford to send to college. He said, so if you don't want to play in Cee, he said, come on playing in Brookshire.

We love to have you over here. So I said, okay, you know, I think about it. So, you know, we talked some more. And I looked back. He was so right. He said, man, he said, just go back and play. and just, you know, he said, I never get his word. He said, that white man has his area.

He said, don't worry about him. Sure enough, I went back and told my mother what he says. She said, I don't like football. She said, I don't like you been to quitter. She said, I don't like that sport, but I wish you'd go back and play it. She said, you can play in Brooks. I'll drive your bookshare every day. It was only 12 miles.

But I said, I said, okay, so all of a sudden, the guy, the coach that came around, he came around that summer and started talking to all the players. And then my best friend called me Gary. He would say, man, has Ralph Harris been in the Ohio? I said, no, I said, he's on his way over there, trying to get us to come back to play. I'm like, okay, so sure enough, he talked all up, he came back and played, and it wasn't a feel-good story, one of those stories. But I'll say this much, he came back and played, and we want to stay championship.

When I first state championship, you know, and my senior and Ceeley, and that was a great feeling. And I'll say this, you know, about the guy's name was Ralph Harris, and I talk about him in the book. He called me about three years ago, and I hadn't heard this man in years, but he knew a guy that I knew from Vegas. And the guy called and said, hey, Eric, I said, what's going on? I said, what's going on, Dana? How you doing, man? I'm good, man. He said, man, somebody didn't want to talk to you.

I said, okay. So he put him on the phone and Chris, as soon as I heard his voice, I knew exactly what my heart started being fat. I was like a kid all over again. I said, how is it going? He said, hey, Eric, I said, how is it going, Ralph? He says, it's going good. I said, I said, yeah, man.

I said, what's up? He said, Eric, he said, I just want to talk to. He said, I want to say, man, you had a great NFL career, great college career. He said, I just want to apologize to you. He said, I was an idiot. He said, I just want to apologize to you. I say, right up, I say, man, thanks for saying that. Because, I mean, you know, you're a young kid. You know, you think you're right, but you're not sure if you're right when you get over. Right. And I just, I just knew how he treated us. It was wrong. And I guess later, he saw it too. And so, like I say, it's a bunch of those stories in the book. You know, it's just my life.

You know, my life as a dad and as a point. NFL player and life after football. That's an incredible story, like that thing coming full circle. I mean, and big of you to accept the apology. It's, you know, I don't want to give him too much credit for apologizing. I mean, that's probably 30 years late. But big on you to accept that apology. Yeah, I mean, you know, my dad was big on forgiveness and so was my mother.

I mean, believe it or not, because I was, you know, people don't know this, but I mean, I was adopted. I was legally adopted, you know, my great, great honor, adopted me, my dad. And so my dad was, I would say, best man I mean, the best man I ever knew. I mean, a true Christian man, not the guys that's, you know, the hallibout. I'm a holy, you know, oh, God, this, what that kind of guy. I mean, he was, he walked to walk and talk to talk. And, you know, he would have, he didn't want it that from me.

He wanted that. You know, I did see it come full circle. And like you said, better late than never sometimes. And, and I think, like, you know, time changes is all, Chris. It really does. I can think about the guy that I was. you know when i was in my 20s you know and my 30s you know and the guy that i'm now 60 of 60 you know 40 years later yeah you know we all we all change i mean you'll change you know from

now until you know to you 60 years old you're like wow you know it's almost sometimes you know it's like it's almost like a light switch comes up it's like and you go like man i wish i could go back and do that yeah but there's there's no amount of trying to will yourself to change that's going to change you i mean you have to do that anyways a prerequisite but you're right it's not until a light switch goes off and you're like well fuck why wouldn't that flip six months ago because you had to go through whatever you were going through you had to think it through experience it and then you know like after high school everybody knows the smu stories uh which has got to feel even more fucked up now i mean you would have made you back the the brink's truck up on you if the nil deals were

how much money do you think you would have made at smu i mean with the nile deals i don't know man you know i i It would have been, I hope it would have been, hopefully, I ain't going to say a lot, but you know what? The thing is, when you see, when people read the book, they're going to be surprised about a little bit of money that I got. Yeah. But you know, you know what I was doing with that money, man? Half of my mother, my dad had passed away. I mean, we were poor. I mean, we weren't dirt poor.

We had nothing. I mean, I'm from a small town and I'm trying to help my mom, you know, the best I can. You know, I think that, and I'm glad those kids are getting that what they get. Because, look, you know, a lot of kids are not fortunate enough to come from a great background. They're just not, you know, black or white. It doesn't make a different for color of you. You know, a lot of these kids are poor kids and to have an opportunity to make something up, what you love to do. And those kids, I'm sure they love playing college football.

They love it. I mean, why not? The universities are making all this money. The presidents are making all this money. The coaches, you know, the head of NCAA, why come the guys who are really doing the work at the grunts, you know, playing the game, they should get something. And I've always said that for years, you know, that I've felt like that. And I don't care if it's girls, boys, sports, whatever, I think that you should share some

quality of revenue. But I also do think if I'm speaking plainly, I think a lot of people who are anti-18-year-olds getting paid, just like anywhere else in America, all these red-blooded Americans, they love free market capitalism and, hey, you get what you earn, and that's the beauty of this place. I do think there's something about football, and I think it's that it's a predominantly black sport in college. the pros that they don't want to see young, young black guys get paid.

Man, come on. We know what I mean. You know, you know, that's that stuff. But that's what it comes down to a lot. I mean, and it's the sad thing about it. You know, the great thing about playing a sport like football is that when you put on that football uniform, the guy next to you, you don't see his color. It's not about your.

No. It's my guy. It's my teammate. I can say that coming from a small town in Texas, you know, and back in segregation. You know, I grew up in segregation. Really, I went to the black school. When it's the winter, the white school, is that, you know, You were tiger.

I mean, we kids all knew each other. You know, we were a seelie tiger. That's what they came down to. A lot of us, you know, black guys say, say that, you know, man, you know, if this poor was predominantly white, it would be different. I mean, it would be different. And I believe that. And that's nothing against the guys that I played with because, you know what?

The great thing about it is, guys that I played would say the same thing. I mean, I had a guy, I said, Lennon King. Lennon King, I played. He played for San Diego. He said, man, he said, they treat the black guys different. He said, let me tell you something. And the sad thing is, is that you hear players say it all the time. He said, man, I hate the NFL.

I just hate them. And you hear us say it because, you know, we know how they treat us. And I just, I mean, the NFL can't help everybody. And I'm not, I'm not, everybody's not looking by hand out. But I think as, when you've done a sport, it's done so great by a sport and made the sport that phenomenal and made it that big is that you should reach some of the benefits. And that black, white, it doesn't make a difference to me. I think I'll never forget when I talked this is about 10 years ago. This was about five years for Deacon Passwood, Deacon Jones.

I went to be in the hospital. We sit down talking. And you're talking about a great guy, man, funny. I mean, he had all the good stories. He came and talked to our team. He came and talked to our team in St. Louis, and I can't say on the podcast what the message was that we took away. It was incredible. It was incredible.

I mean, he was a great guy. So Deacon says to me, say, Eric, he said, man, I'm an answer the question. Eric, he said, man, I'm asking the question. Eric, first of all he told me, because I asked him, I said, I said, they didn't count sacks. We said, man, I had 35 sacks one of you. He said, I kept my own sack. I kept my record.

I'm like, really? Yeah, they didn't count sacks. He said, my first contract, I made $75,000. That's what I made. Right. But he said, they asked Eric. He said, what do you get? He said, what's your pension right now?

I said, well, Deacon, I think I was, I think I was 47 or 48 a time. He said, I said, I said, I said, I'm taking my pension yet. I said, but what I'm going to look at it, I think it's about about $1,500. You know what I get in my pension? He said, I get $250 a month. Good. Lord, and he's on all the NFL stuff. He's on every highlight video, the whole bad.

You got it. He said, what am I going to do with $250 a month? And I mean, I'm not going to lie, Chris. It kind of blew me away. Yeah. I'm like, we say, yeah, I get $250. He said, I take it just because I don't want them to have. So, I mean, that's what I look at when the night.

And look, I'm not hating on the NFL. I just, you know what I, people that didn't play with me and know me say this much it. If you don't want to truth, don't ask Eric because I'm just going to tell you what I think. That's just how I am. I mean, even by myself, me, me included, me included. I just feel like, I just feel like it's just wrong how they do a lot of the guys.

Well, I mean, hopefully they eventually, I don't want to go down the rabbit hole too far because I'll be the same way as you. I heard you recently refer to it as pimps and whores is kind of the way it is in the NFL. And it's unfortunate. I think the more players have a voice, the thing you're talking about,

the, you know, social media, bigger platforms. Hopefully we can actually make our voices heard and we get our shit together on a CBA level. You know, so, we don't have... That's a whole other level. I mean, but there's another problem when we don't show up and vote, you know, like not we because I was out of the league at that point,

but one of the biggest, you know, CBA votes we've had in recent memory and there's a 60% turnout. Like, there's a problem from top to bottom when it comes to leadership on the player's side. But I don't want to go down that road. That's a whole nother east. It's a can of worms.

But if I'm like, what's so interesting to me about you is you go through the SMU stuff, you talk about, you know, your Texas upbringing and kind of like the stark reminders of racism and different, you know, you had to go a town over to play football because the coach of races, all this stuff. Then you get to L.A., which to me, is that like a culture shock? Because the 80s in L.A., man, like no camera phones, Hollywood. no, you know, no social media, which is a good thing in that day and age. The news was simple.

Like, was it the Wild West out there for, like, a young athlete that you think you've seen it all? Like, what was L.A. like when you walked on the scene? Let me tell you something, Chris. It was like the Wild West. It really was. It was like, it was no camera phones. You know, it was like, man, you should have been there, man. You should have saw it.

That's why you're a good storyteller. That's why you and my dad are good storytellers. There's no fucking like, hey, let me pull this up on my iPhone. Oh, no, no. Thank God. I'm going to say, thank God. Yeah, for a lot of guys. It was a lot of stuff. It was a lot of stuff that was going on back in those days that you didn't want to get on camera.

I said, you know, coming from Texas, I came from, you know, Estimia in Dallas. I've been a little bigger city then. Yeah, that's a big one. Coming out here. And, you know, the thing about it is I got recruited to go to USC. That was my first recruiting business. That was the first time I'd have flown a plane. Wow.

A big plane, like a real plane. You know, and I came out here on my recruiting trip. And I never get when I got off the plane, scared to death, you know. And I saw the mountains, man. I'm like, wow, it was a trip. I'd never seen nothing before. So I got off the plane and coach John Jackson was there to pick me up. But he wasn't there yet.

So when I get off the plane, I'm standing there. And you don't remember me. They call the Hari Christians. And the Harry Christians, they had the white robes and stuff and the ball heads. That's the people come to the. gate. So they surrounded me. I don't know why they picked me out. I guess I looked lost. They surrounded me with what with tambourines. Hiri, Christian, Christian, and I'm like, I'm just standing. I'm like, what the people walking by looking? And so I

want to get coach Jackson grabs and say, come on. I said, what's that? That was the high Christian. That was my first experience coming in LA. I won't forget with a guy picked, uh, that I went over to USC. Uh, man, that was, that was, that was a great visit. I mean, I was just in awe, you know, you University of Southern Cal, all the great players they had. My favorite player was OJ. And on that visit, matter of fact, we were out, because I came for the Rose Bowl game.

It was to Rose Bowl. They played Michigan in that Rose Bowl game. And I saw OJ, I mean, I had to meet some other guys. I said, that's OJ, man, let's go talk to it. He was out there doing some camera work. And I said, man, I'm going to say something. That's my favorite player. That's why I played running back. Right. So I go over to him. I said, Mr. Simpson,

my name is Eric Dickinson. He said, how are you doing that? Man, I said, fine. He's a way for you from Seedy, Texas. They're recruiting. I said, yes, sir. As well, I said, running back. I told him, I say, at 2,000 yards in high school, I see. So, really, I see, yes, sir.

I say, I like to break your record one day. And say, we're good luck with that. That is so good. Hey, man. You remember that conversation? Like, it was probably yesterday. So does he, I think, probably. I asked him, lady, he said, man, I remember that.

I'm sure he did because I was a kid, but, man, I just wanted to say something to him. And so that was my first experience with Los Angeles. And then, you know, I was forced enough to get drafted, you know, to the Rams, John Robson recruited me. And so when I got to the Rams on draft day, you know, it was different. You didn't go to New York and came to the team possible. So I came to the team. And the

41st time he said, I finally got you. Which is funny because you got to recruit me in high school. And, man, you know, it just, it was different. I said, I think every young rookie, I know I can't. I can't speak for every guy. I can speak to myself. It was, it was exciting getting drafted,

being in the NFL, but I said it's much you, man. It was way different. It was way different from college. It was way fast. I never forget my first experience in training camp. When I got into training camp, and we went training camp two weeks before the veterans showed up. And John Robertson said, look, when the veterans show up,

it's going to be different. You know, it's going to be faster. I'm like, hey, please, it can't be no faster. I mean, because they had a few veterans there. Like, you had like 15 running backs. You might have 20 receivers. And so I'm like, I'm like, yeah, okay. And I'll never forget.

It was Jackie Slater, speaking of Jackie, and Gary Dieter. And we had past protection. And, man, Vince Ferragama was a quarterback. And, you know, at the Red Judge, not the Red Judge, you couldn't touch the quarterback. And they did all this movement, movement. And it was like, roar! And the Blitz came to touch the quarterback. I'm like, wow.

It was got him oldest grant. He was receiver for Michigan State. I said, man, that's too damn fast. Yeah. So, Sarah, get in. Get in. So I'm going to forget. I got in.

I'm like. I'm nervous now. The dude was saying, and my man was here on the right, but then all of a sudden, something happened. I get that the defense moved. Now, my mind signed and went back to the backside,

and I didn't know it. So he came to touch the quarterback. Eric, who's your man? I say, I guess him. He said, get out, son. You'll get somebody hurt. No problem. So that was my, that was my first experience.

And pass pro is the hardest transition, generally. I feel like the running backs, too. It's the tough as it really is. It's tough because, you know, it's a lot of movement. In college, it was back in the United is now. In my days, guys, they got the defense, they just sit there. And the pros, they were moving to the snap of the ball. And that was a lot, you know, for a college kid.

And then you got these big-ass linebackers that are biggest, I was six-foot-three, and they were, you know, six-for-three, six-for-three. And what were you really weighing? 225. And, yeah, and these guys are 250. Yeah, but the thing is, they got a, they're getting like a seven-yard-yard-spread. I got to try to stop it. Yeah.

That was, that was, that's hard to do. I mean, I think people will realize how hard that is. But, you know, that was my, that was my experience as the National Football League. How about in L.A., like the first superstar that walked up to you and you were, like, playing for the Rams. And they were like, hey, I like watching you play. You know, that moment where you're like, somebody famous, you know, is watching me. I remember that very well. As a fact, I was at a, I was at a bar.

I'm at a bar. I was at a restaurant. I was in Nicky Blaers. It was on sunset. That was a hot spot. on Friday and Saturday night. So it was a Friday night. We were playing in town.

I was going to play on Friday nights. And so I knew that I wanted to Nicky. I look over and I say, man, that's Clint Eastwood. I'm like, wow. I mean, I'm like, dang. And so I'm like, man, I'm sitting there. So Nikki came. I said, man, is that Clint Eastwood?

He said, yeah, he ain't want to meet him. I said, no, I don't want to meet him. I said, Eric, come on. He said, no, come on here. So I get up. Nervous as I don't know what. I walk over and he said, hey, Nicky can be tight. He said, hey, Aaron.

man, you don't know. That blew me away. Yeah, by name. By name. I said, I said, how are you doing, Mr. He said, I'm a big fan. I say, so am I. That's cool, man.

They have no camera phones. He didn't take no picture. Yeah. You know, he just shook his hand. And, you know, he said, you know, thanks for being a great play. I said, man, thank for all the entertainment you give me. But that was my first time, you know, being like,

and I can say, wow, somebody, you know, big time recognized me. But I'll never forget, we went to the Laker game. I was a rookie. And Dr. Curlin was out, I would, I would, doctor.

I don't know if you probably passed away by the time you got there. And so he said, if you want to go to the Laker game? I'm like, yeah, I've never been to Lake a game.

So I'm saying, sure, I go. Right. I said, man, Dr. Curling got seats on the floor. I'm like, what you mean on the floor? You said,

I don't know, like the wood. I'm like, oh, okay. I mean, I see it on television. So sure enough, I go to the Laker game

with Dr. Curlin. I'm sitting in, And all the guys came with magic, clean, you know. Now, I meant, then they gave me this, renounced my name on the P and gave me a standing ovation. I was so embarrassed. I mean, that was like, wow, this is what,

this is what being like a, I guess like a star in L.A. is like, because I, you know, I played a couple games. And so, my name is some good games. So that was, that was, that was my introduction to Los Angeles. I was going to ask you about the Lakers, too, because, I mean, what a, what a decade to play sports in L.A. But you said something a second ago. Friday and Saturday was the hot spot.

And like when I was in a league, you know, dudes would be out on Friday nights. Dudes would be out, you know, on Saturdays. Like I would be whispering on Saturdays. Me personally, like I had to do everything in my power to be as fast and as good as everybody else. So I was in, I needed my sleep the whole thing. How crazy was it and how hard was it to stay in in LA? Oh, God. How would it work?

Like you'd be home on. On a Friday, somebody who hit you on a landline and be like, hey, we're doing this tonight. Or the girls, you know, you know, so I was, that's always the girl. Yeah. I was just a girl. You can't get. I said, girl, we got curfew. He can't be coming out.

We got curfew. You know, so a big thing was come to the hotel. Yeah. Come to stay. We sleep in the hotel. I mean, it was tough. I mean, it was tough, you know, not going out. I mean, I didn't do that.

I could say, I really didn't go out on Saturday nights. I mean, because we had to, we had to stay at a hotel. Right. So I didn't go out. But Friday nights. That was my night out, but I will say this much here. I'll take a quick story. As a matter of fact, the day that I broke the record, I said to, you know, I went over 2,000 yards.

I had another game left. It was a girl I used to date. And we messed around, which kind of, she was like my little thing. And so it was the night before the game, it was Saturday night. And I said, I said, come to the hotel. I said, get to the hotel early. She said, well, you got a game the next day. I said, don't worry about that.

I said, just come to the hotel. So I'll never forget. Chris, man, that night, that morning, man, we had sex. I mean, I'm earning in the, like, like a couple hours when they said, Eric, you're going to be tired. No, that's a myth. I said, I'm not going to be, I'm not going to be tired. I never forget that. And I had 200, I had 215 yards that day, so I wasn't tired.

So the boxer, you know how boxers are like, no sex months before the fight? Yeah. You know, probably it's shared in some football circles. No, you can break a record the same day. That's if you're Eric Dickerson. Oh my God. LT had a ladder. They said he had a fire ladder that he used to sneak out of the hotel in New York.

He'd put the fire ladder out the window and just climb down. So were dudes, was it just easy to get out of curfew? Like I feel like now dudes don't even try it because just technology and the way things are. Like, it's just not worth it. But back in there, it's probably. You know, I probably for y'all, Nass, not worth it because, you know, because you could call on cameras and all that kind of stuff for us, man. I mean, it was easy, like training camp, like a training camp,

we should get out to a training camp. Yeah. We'd have cars by the window because we opened Fullerton. We had cars parked in the back alley. We'd go out the window, go out, come back in. You know, we might go to a girl's house, you know. But rather you'd go out to a bar because you didn't want to be seen. Right.

But, you know, like I said, what's I say again. The girl, the girls are what kept, you know, got you in most trouble. As far as speaking of LT, I asked LT, LT. I said, man, I said, LT, what's the craziest thing you ever done? You can think of. He said, man. He says, there's so much. So many of them.

He said, but I can tell you. He said, I was a strip bar. He said, I was a strip bar. He said, I was there from 9 o'clock in the morning till pretty much the next day. He said, I'm there all night. He said, I'm there all night with strip wood, you know, doing all kind of stuff. You know, everything you can think of what we're doing.

He said, so it's the next day. He said, you know, I said, I'm going to get out, the sun's coming up. So I get out, I'm heading home. He said, I got to go right past John State it. I say, I look over. He said, damn, what all them cars doing over there? He said, I pulled in. He said, the parking doesn't say, LT, the game's about to start.

He said, the game. He said, I jump by the car. He said, I just left the car. He said, he's not the car. He said, I rail in. He said, I get dressed. He said, I run on the field as a defense is going on the field. I said, so how did you play?

He said, I have five sacks. I'm telling you. The rules do not apply. If you're that good, they don't apply, bro. Hey, I need my eight and a half hours of sleep. We didn't need no sleep. No, not at all. And you know what the problem with going out at the bar is?

It's not the fans, is that you might see a coach in there. That's the thing by going to bars. You might see a coach. Because they're out every night before. They're still out every night before the games. I usually get mad because not that I wanted to go do anything anyways, but they were such, you know, they clang my door at 11 o'clock. I'm trying to sleep.

the hook on there because I don't want to fucking deal with them. Bang, you know, I'm awake now. But these motherfuckers get to all go out to dinner the night before a game until midnight. The whole thing, I'm like, don't you have to call plays tomorrow? Like, don't you, don't you, if we have a shitty sheet tomorrow, I'm looking at you. You guys all took your wives out.

So, but the Rams, man, like, you know, for a long time, as you said, one of the all-time greats. And you got no home stadium to go to. Like, listen, when I retired, or when I left St. Louis with everything that's gone down, like if I didn't go playing Philly somewhere where I felt really accepted, I would feel like I was kind of NFL homeless.

You know, although you have a former franchise, there's no stadium to go back to and say, like, I played here. You know, this is my city where I spent 8, 10, 11, 12 years. Was that tough for you in L.A. for a long time? And how exciting has it been to see them in town again? Man, you said it really was tough because, you know, we played in Anaheim. When the Rams, I wasn't here.

They left out of the end, 80, 80, 81. I was in college still. And when they went to Orange County, I'll never forget. Jackie Slater and a couple of guys, Judge, Jack Youngblood, he said when Deacon Jones did it too, said, when the Rams left, L.A. said, man, they lost a lot of fans. Yeah. He said, he said, this was a Rams town.

It really was. And they went to Orange County. He said, you could see it, Chris. I mean, because sometimes we play games. man, it would be 30,000 people at the game. They would say we're playing the Bengals or somebody like that. Or wasn't the Cowboys or the Giants or, you know, the Raiders or something like that. It would sell out, you know, and it was disappointing.

I mean, it really was. I always say, man, I like that on the road better. I said we got the fans. And even though they're booing us, I don't care. You know, that we've got the fans. I think that most players, I think probably you felt the same way. You want to play in front of a full house. Yeah.

You do. You don't want to see like a skeleton. staying, you know, out there. So, yeah, that was, that was a tough part. It really was. When I think about, you know, L.A. now, you know, and how fortunate these guys are, I mean, to play in L.A. I mean, I wish you had a chance to play in L.A.

I wish I had a chance to play in the city of L.A. Because I think it's different. It really is. It's different. The energy is different. I told Marshall and, uh, Isaac Bruce says, man, if y'all would have won that Super Bowl in Los Angeles, y'all have been the greatest. Oh.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Man, I said, dog. I said it would have been crazy because they love their sports. They do. I mean, people talk about, ah, L.A. ain't got no fans. That's, that's BS, man. L.A. got fans. You know what L.A. wants?

L.A. wants to win. To win. You got to be winning. You got to be doing something phenomenal. And y'all had a phenomenal football team. So it had been way different. But, yeah, it was different. And, you know, you talk about, had another team to coach.

You know, the funny thing about that situation is that I don't feel an infillation to that team. I mean, and I'll tell you why. The coach has some good fans. They're some really good fans. But that was one of the first times that I'd ever been on a team that was really a jealous, divided football team. I mean, I've never seen it before because I didn't have it in high school, I didn't have it in college, and I didn't have it at the Rams. And I wouldn't the only want to talk to one of my buddies I played with at the coast. I talked to a about it. We talked about it a couple months ago. I said, let me ask you a question. I said, did you feel like that team was really jealous

in their body? He said, Eric, no doubt. He said, that was one of our problems. He said, I was one of the big problems to Colts. He said, everybody was jealous of everybody. He said, when we talked about getting you, I said, I'll never forget him. And they didn't get him. That's a lot. They ain't getting him. He ain't coming here. He said, I never got him. I saw you walking

through the locker room. I'm like, damn, they did get him. So maybe they're trying to win around him. He said, man, Eric, he said, and you know, that's one thing that I think people realize is that on a football team, even a job, You have to be close-knit to be successful. You have to have the pieces, you know,

that everybody's not going to get along. But the vial pieces need to fit. They need to have the same goals. I mean, and we didn't. And we had so many jealous players, man. I mean, it was really disheartening to see it. And like I said, never seen it like that before. And then another thing was, is that I'd never seen,

but first of all, when I got there, imagine being told certain places that you shouldn't probably go to you know you shouldn't go to like it was places with a villa burg like it was towns up i got some of the name of the towns like brownsburg right don't go out to don't go out to you know and you know why yeah like worse than texas oh way worse in texas oh man way worse than that's what i was going to say because like you went from l.A. to like you know nap city and surrounding areas only town of texas is that you knew was like that was Biden, Texas, that you knew for a fact that, hey, they said, pet the sign, don't get your black ass caught out and buy it in the dark. In the dark,

it's basically that was it. But it was a couple of times like that in Indiana. And the thing was is that I'd never seen a Clinton rally. I won't have to get my mom, my uncle, he was from India, living in Indiana,

and he said, it was one, it was on the off day, on Tuesday, he said, he said, what you're doing? I said,

I'm laying in bed. He said, turn a TV on. I said, what channel? He said, any channel. I turned the television on

and it's a clan matter going on downtown Indianapolis and a meridian man because I mean think about that that was in the late late 80s I'd never seen anything like that in my life I mean even being from Texas I haven't seen it you know you have to see with your own eyes

and they see I just don't let you know what you are so you know what you are it's different out here and then by the time I was you know I wanted to get out of that because man they fired my head it fired my head and it was bad it was bad I think we were one in 15 that year. Never forget this.

And this is one of the reasons why I have really hard feelings in everybody at Annapolis. And I was dating a girl that was there at the game and she said after the game, they took a banner. You hang a banner over to throw the rail that said, you know, we love the Colts.

You know, we love the Colts. They took a banner, hung it over the rails, and had a pitch of a black baby in an Indian-style position with 29 with fried chicken on one side. I had money on one side, watermelon on one side

and fried chicken, like eating fried chicken. And they let that stay up there until half time. I never forgot that. And as a matter of fact, some of the players, they thought it was funny. I could tell you how jealous we were. And I said, man, I said, tell him, that's you. I said, it's just, I got my number on it.

You're black? Oh, yeah, that's messed up. All of a sudden, they got it then. And I never forget to, my friend, we're still a friend in that Holly. She said, Eric, she said, I started crying. She said, that was hurtful to me. I said, that was hurtful to me.

And I'm out of time. I'm not that playing. And that's one of the reasons, man. And don't get me wrong. It was some good coach fan. It was some really good coach fan. Yeah. But that, you know what they say?

You know, I just get over. Man, you don't get over. You don't get over that easy. That's good. Because what does that say about fans in general that you can love somebody enough to go watch them play football, but hate them in that way. I mean, like, it's just so fucking, it's a mind fuck to me.

It's amazing. But like I say, man, that's just how, back in those days, man, that's how I was. A whole half. What year is this? This is 1990. I mean, it'd be bad if it was 1960, but 1990, huh? 19, 19, 19. And unfortunately, it's not like you can't see a clan rally on TV downtown,

pick your, I mean, Charlottesville. Yeah. You see what happened in my hometown here. It's like, fuck. So another can of worms. I don't want to open too much. But I mean, you talk about Indianapolis now. You don't feel a connection to the team.

But do you watch Jonathan Taylor and then enjoy that? Yeah. I mean, look, the thing about me is I love watching great players. Yeah. I love watching great player. And man, he's fun to watch. You know, it's good. When you play the position running back,

you always want a guy to be successful at your position. So most definitely, I like watching play. You know, I like the way he can see. seem to find the hole. He hits the hole. I think he's great for Indianapolis. I think he's great for that team. I mean, I think he gives Carson Wentz something that he needs as a running game.

Yeah, he needs it. I think. But you know what? Because all quarterbacks need it. I mean, there's very few that don't need it. I mean, maybe Aaron Rogers, I mean, about the only guy I can say that can go without it. Tom Brady a little bit, but Aaron Rogers for sure, but every guy needs that run again. Just like, you know,

do I wish I had a great quarterback? Oh, God. Do I? I look at these quarterback, but I'd have had that pretend what I had to do, but I like, I like Washington. We played this game with somebody else.

Like, who do we play this game with where we made them name all their quarterbacks to see if they could remember them all? How many quarterbacks do you think that you, who was it, Reed? It was T.O. It was T.O.

Oh, yeah, Tio had a gang of quarterbacks, man. And you, and you had a bunch in L.A. as well, probably, too. Let me see if I can name. All right, so I started out with Vince Farragam. I started Vince. I had Jeff Kim, I had Steve Diels

I'm kind of just going out of order I had God, I had another quarterback I had Dita Brock I had another quarterback I can't think of his name Godley Oh no Jim Everett

Jim who who knocked out Chris he didn't knock him out But were you on the team with him when he went after Jim Rome No But you know what I did the show the week before He told me he was going to do that. I said, man, I said, I said, I ain't a good idea.

I said, I mean, I wouldn't do it. I said, but you do what you want. Jim told you he was going to call. He was going to do it, yeah. Because he had been called. He said, he's going to come on the show. He said, he said, he dared me to call him Chris on the show. He said, I'm going to do it.

I said, I mean, I ain't a good idea, but okay. You know, and he did. I mean, better Jim, everything is out of body slam his last me. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Suffice to say, a lot of these quarterbacks and no disrespect to any of them, like, you know, you could only imagine how much more prolific that rushing attack would be if you had a consistent.

I mean, that's one, two, three, four. That's five plus five quarterbacks right there. One, two, three, four, five. That's like me name and head coaches. Yeah, exactly. In St. Louis, we had about. St. Louis. Right.

So is there an offense now that you're like, man, I wish I could play in that fucking offense? Man, I'm a big base offense, right here in LA. man, wow, I was watching Todd running at Brockville here. I mean, you know, it was a fun office to watch. I mean, even, I mean, the office in Tennessee, it kind of reminds me with Derek Henry, California, the office

that I had with the Rams, you know, quarterback was but the offensive line was great. But you always want that guy. I mean, that quarterback that position is going to take the pressure off you and vice versa. But if I could play in one offense, it would have to be, I'd have to say, McVease. I mean, I like the

officer. Yeah, and you can see. I mean, they're about to get Cam Acres back who tore his fucking Achilles in March. What would happen if you tore your Achilles in 1987? You out for the whole year. Maybe you're in a half. There's no doubt. I mean, back then, shout out to Reggie Scott.

Shout out to Reggie Scott, Byron, Tyler, all those trainers there in L.A., yeah. But also shout out to Cam Acres. You must be superhuman. How about the records? Because you broke OJ's record, as we alluded to earlier. I think he needed 14. You did in 16.

I'm sure you were sweating a little bit when C.J. was making the... You know what I mean? Like, how do you approach that? Because the game has changed. Yeah. The time allotted to break those records has changed. Do you look at the records the same way? Say somebody breaks that record in 17 games?

You know, I would say this is. Man, I said, OJ. did it in 14. Yeah. I did in 15 games. 15, right. With one extra game to go. I had one extra game. And I always say that because that's Georgia, how hard it is to do.

You know, Chris, I always feel like to say, do I want somebody to break your record? No, I don't. I mean, I always say, come on, let's be for real. But if a guy breaks the record, so what? He breaks the record. I mean, that record has lasted 37 years. And I didn't even realize it.

The guy sent me a text the other day when my buddy said, man, he said, happy anniversary. I say, happy anniversary. He said, December night, what day is that? December night. And he sent me a picture of the head on TV. The day Eric Dixon broke O.J.'s record December night, 1984.

I'm like, oh, I forgot. Yeah. So, you know, I just feel like that, you know, it's a record that I'm proud of than when I, this has stood the test of time. But the one that I've always said that's going to last the longest. It's going to be very difficult to break. Maybe when a guy to break it out, I probably won't be here. It's my rookie rushing record. It's 18808 yards, 20 touchdown.

That's a rookie. 308 carries, I believe. 380. 380 carries. God damn, that's a workload. dude. Yeah, and then the next year, 404 canvies. That's incredible. I just, like, the game was so different.

That's another thing is like, okay, you take the game amounts, like, do the math, whatever. But even so, like, everybody's in sub now. Not to mention the size that you talked about those backers, the size of the backers, the size of, you know, the linemen, that sort of thing. Like, things have changed a little bit. And I wonder if you look at it in, you're like, man, if I could run against a light box or against sub like every down give me 10 15 16 17 games I feel like you would you would break those

records all over again oh I'd break some records for sure I mean if I could be 20 22 years old again and be fast as I was yeah I was big I'm a big back I was 6 3 225 uh and I was a sprinter so and I was a guy to play football so and I wasn't I wasn't afraid so most definitely these guys now they don't they don't want to tackle. Tackling is horrible. I'm like, damn, damn, man. It's bad, man. I mean, you have to look at, damn, man.

And I get some of these guys making business decisions. I mean, some of these guys run up on Derek Kennedy, like, hey, look, you know, I ain't, I'm trying to grab it from the back. I'm getting run over, you know, so, man, I'm looking. I'm like, yeah, if they were on the right team, being young, I could kill it. Does anybody remind you of an Eric Dickerson? I mean, the way, you know, your stride. I feel like when I asked my dad about you, I'm like, what was it like playing against Eric?

He's like, you would think you had an angle and then like, you know, his steps are, you know, he's fast and then his steps. So is somebody you watch on TV that's like body type or running style that's reminded you of you? No, no one. And I'm not saying that being arrogant. I just, I just haven't. Yeah. I think you say any back, like I've never seen anyone run like Barry Sanders. Right.

You know, I haven't seen a back way like Earl Campbell, you know, Derek Henry. I mean, every guy has their own. style. No, you know, I was big, I was fast, and I think people took it for granted that. They thought I wasn't fast. I mean, I won't forget I played when I was Derrams. Lerbrens. Lervin, defensive backing here, and I mean, he used to

argue about, you know, who was the fastest? I said, LeRoy, you can't run me. You're too big to be that fast. I'm like, LeRoy, I can run. I mean, we argue. You can't run me. I said, it was just funny. So I never forget, we go over to play the Jets. Right. And we're on the plane,

And it's a defensive backer. Holmes. He's, man, if you break, man, he can run you down. I said, Le Roy. He ain't going to catch me. I'm telling you. I'm telling me, it was, it became funny. So sure enough, Chris, what happened?

Second play the game, toss left. I break on the left side. Who gets behind me, Holmes. You knew it. And you knew it in real time. I didn't know who he was. I didn't know. Somebody behind me.

All I know is, he couldn't catch me. He couldn't catch me. And at that point, I never get it. because John Robinson thought I was always jogging in practice. Right. And he came over after that money. He said, I guess you were running fast in practice. Like, he was jogging in, too.

Yeah. Yeah. And I'm going to tell you, that was a curse sometimes because people thought I wouldn't try it. And it wasn't true. I mean, I had it all the time. So I was at a bar one night in L.A. And, you know, I go to clothes and sitting there talking.

Guy gets talking to the guy like, man, you know Eric Dixon. I said, yeah. He said, man, you ain't that fast, man. I said, dog, don't let that. TV fool you now. Man, I'm telling you. I ran track. I said, I ran track too. So we drinking and talking. And I said, man, I said, let's just take it outside.

Yes. He said, all right. I said, let's go. So, man, all of us get up, go outside. I got in here, don't get hurt. I said, I don't get hurt. I said, what you want to run? He said, well, give me a jump. I said, wait a minute. You say you can outrun me, bro. Give me a job. You and the pro.

I said, okay, I give you, I give you like a five-yard jump. So, man, we ran something like 50 yards. Man, Chris, and they said, go out right next to him. And I beat him so easy. And I never get when he said, man, you don't let that fast on TV. I said, word, I tell you. Don't let that TV fool you. Yeah.

TV adds 15 pounds. It takes a couple decibels off the 40, too, especially when you're 6'3 and constride. So you're out in the parking lot racing this guy. What was the worst surface to run on in the NFL? Was it the link? Like, for a while, was it Philly? Or was there someplace that I'm not thinking of? You had Philly.

You had Philly. you had Chicago, New England was terrible. Because it was cold. It was cold as cold as hell up there. Man, it was the service was hard as hell. I mean, those, those, those, those, those, those, those, those, the after dome. I got my foot caught in the scene in the after dome. I almost tore my knee up in the afternoon.

I mean, today, if those fields they had today, they wouldn't play them. Players be like, oh, I'm not playing on this crap. Okay. I mean, it was crap. I mean, like, we had to play with the baseball field. Like in Anaheim, the baseball seat was going on, the angels played, the ball field. that was just the same thing in San Francisco it was some bad fields

I mean really bad fields but you know that was what we signed up for at that time all right so as I'm talking to Eric Dickerson behind him I see eight helmets I believe behind him and I was going to ask oh there's more than there's more than that we got we got about 12 of those bad boys

and I know they're probably great players oh we got 16 20 it keeps going who are some of your favorite helmets that you got to trade because that's always one of my you know like I love the Jersey trade I cherish those things. Well, I got to trade with Andre Tippett. Tipett, yeah.

I got Randall Cunningham right here from Philly. Yep. I got one of my real friends, Dan Marino. Dan Marino. I got some Alton, Bruce Smith. You got your cousin up there? I got Dexter Manley.

Yeah. I got Dexter Manley. Yeah. I got one. Montana. I mean, I got a bunch of them. That's incredible. Like you said, man, it was great to trade those helmets back in the four-boat days. I mean, that was the great thing about it. You know, I got a helmet here from Walter, but it wasn't a game helmet.

It's not a game helmet. It's not a game game. But I got a Walter baby up. You spent one year with my pops, which I totally forgot about. I was in 92. You guys were teammates. And I don't think the Raiders were as good at that point. What was, you got any dad stories that aren't going to get him? in trouble. I really. You know,

how he was a guy who just came to work, played, and went home. He's a simple dude in that respect. He, yeah,

hey, it's about, hey, get my money, hey, work my craft, go home and spend time with my family.

That was, that was how, I mean, you didn't, how it was going out. It was, you see him at practice, you see him at the games,

and boom, after that, you see him to the next practice. Yeah, he was telling me stories about when he went on the road, he used to take his little

suitcase with his little portable VCR. So he actually brought like a VCR to the hotel and he was in there watching tape. I don't know if that's bullshit or not, Dad. It makes you sound like you were not sneaking out.

Yeah, yeah. But times have changed. That's funny as hell, man. Eric Dickerson, really appreciate the time, man, some amazing stories. And the book is going to be out. January what?

One more time. 18. 18. January 18. Watch my smoke. Yep. and I'm I don't read a lot. I think I'm going to read this book because this guy's...

I'm going to tell you, Chris, I'm doing the audio book right now. So you can just sit in this. That'll work. That'll work for me. You know, and I'm going to tell you, boy, this audio book is tough, man. I mean, from 10 o'clock to four o'clock, you're trying to read this stuff, and now it's in the words that ran together. You do your own narrative.

You narrated your own... Oh, that's pretty good. And I want to do that because, you know, it's certain things in that book that a person that wasn't there wouldn't have the right tone for it and flexion. Like, I give you one example. When I first met Howard CoSill, I always went to Howard CoSill to be one of my games. I was like, man, I hope I get to the pro game. And sure enough, playing Atlanta Falcons on a Monday night, or elevator opens, who's standing there, Howard CoSale? And I never forget,

Eric Decker's, son. How's it going, Eric? I said, how's it going, Howard? Eric, let me ask you a question. How in the hell did you and Craig James split time down that? And I told him. He said, he should thank his lucky star. What in the hell what they're doing over there? I mean, I never forget that. I never forget that. So I did that voice and everything.

Oh, man. So you're doing voices and everything? I do. I do all of it. Well, dude, it's been a pleasure. I hope to run into you down the line maybe at the Super Bowl and hope everybody's good and catch you soon. Well, thanks, Chris.

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Nicely done. Cat had my tongue, but I was still listening intently. You were listening in time. To a couple of legends, yep. All right, I forgot a good earlier. You know, we were going to do good, bad, ugly in the open, but fantasy football. Sometimes life, you know, has other ideas for you. Yeah, sure.

Fucking quick lane bowl, dude. Oh, the quick lane ball. There's some good. That is what it was. Yes, dude. That's what it was. That's what it was earlier. Dude.

Yes. It was a good, not a bad. The quick lane bowl is good because like a month ago, I found out through a back channel. No, is this insider trading? No. Because you can go to jail for insider. Can I go to jail for this? I'm not sure.

It wasn't a player that told me. I just caught wind of it. I'm a sports media guy. If inside, because I heard that this guy, I thought Carson Strong might not play in the game. So I took that information.

With the Western Michigan program at plus one. Yeah, they were actually plus four when I got them. Oh. I think. Wow. Western Michigan was catching four in the Quicklane Bowl. It's essentially a home game for them.

Backyard. like the fucking an alley in Detroit. They're hosting a team from Nevada who's been pretty good, but their stud quarterback is like, nah, not playing in the quick lane bowl. Detroit sounds like a place where careers go to die, and they do,

even in bowl games. So yeah, kudos to him, you know, but I took the Broncos and I took them big, and I just kind of was like keeping, you know, me in calendars,

but I'm keeping my eye on the calendar. and it was yesterday my kids and my lovely wife are gone because they took off for a couple days which was like it was like heaven dude not that I don't love my family but I love mine poop with the door open you know sleep all spread out and shit you know the whole thing but I'm like I'm gonna have a great day I'm gonna play call of duty I'm I'm gonna get stone and I'm just hanging out and I go to check my score app and the quick lane bowl is already on dude it's in the first quarter and is up 3-0. First drive.

It would be like positive drive for them. And the games at like essentially 10 a.m. I think they're in the Midwest. 11 a.m. Eastern, yeah. It was an 11 a.m. Eastern game? 10 a.m. Detroit's one of those weird ones. Let's check on Detroit.

It might be like an Arizona situation. Detroit might be East Coast. Detroit Time Zone. Yeah, I think it probably is. It is. There's no way you're doing a 10 a.m. Fogham. But it had like basically a monster truck crowd.

There's like sporadic cheering. You can hear the coach's coach. Like I could hear the calls. And which I'm sure settled your stomach, a kickoff return for a touchdown. The ensuing kickoff after that field goal. Ensuing kickoff, we got a little distance. Kind of six nine kid kind of scared me a little bit. Tall.

Nevada has a six foot nine kid that they were showing videos of him on it, like just throwing the ball out of a fucking stadium, standing in the end zone, hitting a sedan in the parking lot, like over the bleachers. And he was in the Little League World Series too, this kid. Yeah. Yeah. Hold on to your hat.

Atlanta is farther west than Detroit. That's crazy. Yeah. That is crazy. It's crazy. Atlanta's in the Midwest. It's crazy. Atlanta is in the Midwest.

Great Midwestern city. You heard it here. Yeah, but that was a good. That was a good. You won a bunch of chickens. You told your boy about this. Took a nap actually in the middle of that game. Wow.

Yeah. That's how safe it was. And I was worried about the insider trading piece of it and don't really gamble. So I stayed away. I saw it at, uh, you did not stay away because of the insider trading. You stayed away because you were. Oh, you caught me on like a really good day. I was ready to throw all of it onto the Western Michigan Broncos.

But by the time I got to it, it was minus three. And I thought how the jig is up. It's not like it's like it's came from a player. Like these fucking guys have agents, man. Things percolate. and they ended up winning by what a million a million yeah yeah like 38 to 10 or some shit 6 9 kid couldn't get going that's awesome for you thank you thank you there's also bad there's plenty of bad this week i hope you're not referring to john lynch because that's that's also pretty good yeah we kind

of talked about that you think that's a good it's pretty good you're putting pretty pretty here's what people don't understand he did not like that tweet on purpose okay now this this is a an original thought. I could give people the background though. John Lynch tweets, apparently, hyphen, while in Christmas Eve Mass with my family,

which is an incredible, like, capital F family. My family. Hifen. I accidentally and unknowingly liked a tweet, never intended to and remain a huge believer in Jimmy. See, I believe him and now we've got to,

he's on his phone at Mass, dude. And the, the tweet, the liked tweet was leave Jimmy in Nashville after the Lost Titans. Yeah, it was a meme of some. sort. Now, while this was an original thought, I have heard it elsewhere, disclaimer.

I wonder, I wondered if he does like the tweet and then his teenage children have to tell him, you know the other people can see. Oh, for sure. When you like a tweet. For sure, dude. I had to call somebody once to tell them that they like to tweet. I'm not going to say anything else. Anyways, that's totally plausible because John Lynch is not on Twitter.

He's not very online unless somebody has a Google alert or his agent calls him. He's just sitting there in mass. Or one of his kids has the phone and like in tweets. Oh, you think it's the kid. Maybe. That's another possibility. No, I was saying that. Yeah, you were saying.

Yeah. A couple of possibilities thrown out. So all I'm saying is John Lynch did not like this tweet on purpose. He's not a dummy, dude. There's no way. You know what happens when you like a tweet. Like, you know how the website works enough to know that people are going to know what you like.

I don't know. Like he doesn't know how to which words to capitalize. Really? Yeah. I think he knows how Twitter works. I think he saw the tweet in which there's no crime. He might have even chuckled. He might have even like, you know, like a little light shoulder chuckle.

But there's no way on God's green earth, not in the house of the Lord. Is he going to be liking that tweet starting a shitstorm on purpose for no reason? So people don't get it. Like I saw a bunch of snarky people. people like, I mean, I should qualify anything about that website. But I saw a bunch of people like, yeah, sounds real plausible. Definitely didn't like it on purpose. I'm like, all right, well, talk this out.

You think John Lynch popped on his phone and was like, I'm going to hit the heart button under that and make the news. You can also accidentally like things. Yes, which is not a crime. Which user of the thing. It's not an endorsement. I don't know because I've liked things. And then I quickly unlike.

Yeah. And I don't know if it then appears that I've liked something. I don't know the answer. No, it might, unless they might have an alert, then you can see it. But the whole point is like there's no way he did that on purpose. There's no way. I refuse to believe that he doesn't know how Twitter works, not even a little bit. All right, well, Daniel Jeremiah is not going to be bad.

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it's kind of weird like bowl games are going on. I used to like love bowl games. Like some change five, 10 years ago, but now it's just like, one of the playoffs, one of the college playoffs started. Exactly.

Exactly. You got a favorite in the college playoffs? I mean, I don't bet against Nick Saban. Like there's like certain rules in life, right? For the most part, don't bet against,

you know, Tom Brady and then don't bet against Nick Saban. So I'll probably stick with that. Will Anderson thinks they're underdogs. Yeah, give me a break. Well,

that was like Bryce Young at the Heism, at the Heisman speech saying, you nobody ever believed him. I'm like, Dude, you're the number two recruit in the country. Yeah, you got an offer at 14 high school. Yeah, the Patriots used to do that, Edelman and them towards the end. We're like, we're underdogs.

We're like, no, you're not. Anyways, hey, real quick, we talked about the Miami game earlier. One thing I had written down on my sheet and I saw you talking about this today was Marcus Davenport. He played really well last night. And he's a guy that I think could turn the corner and turn it hard here in year four. I think this is for him now. Yeah, he's going to get paid. Chris, you know how that is.

He's going to get paid big time. And whether or not the saints want to lock him up or whether he eventually gets to the market. But I think he's still, you know, 25 years old, maybe 24, 25 years old. This guy, like, when you watch him at UTSA, you could watch me like, this guy has no idea what he's doing. But it is so violent and so explosive that you're like, dude, if that day comes when he figures it out, watch out. And you can like start to see it coming together. Like I'm sure you've been around guys when they were young, too, that were like kind of like segment.

They just hadn't like put everything together to be able to work moves and stay on the move. Like he was just kind of like he had one plan. And then if that didn't work, it was like that was it. But the plan was so violent and so explosive. You're like, well, even even with just that, he'll be disruptive. But man, he's starting to kind of figure some things out. And once that happens, like watch out. Yeah.

Like you're describing kind of to me the way I always put it as a guy who can hit for power. Like, hey, that one rush, the other nine, he's going to spin in place or he's going to do some crazy shit that. It's just not working, but that one rush where he runs the tackle over. I mean, that stuff works. I was going to ask you, you know, you look at college players a fair bit. Do you hold it against the player if he's really polished as a rusher because there's less of a, you know, a ceiling to gain, so to speak? Like if a guy's got all his moves down, are you like, okay, that's kind of what he's going to be?

Yeah. I mean, I think, you know, it's interesting. I do think that you need to give credit when they have that. that polish, right, when they have multiple ways that they can win. But I always kind of come back to it. Like if just the pure speed or the pure power is not one element of your success in college, you can beat bad offensive linemen in college, just working your hands, you know. But you better have at least one of speed or power to kind of to have some success at the next level. Obviously, you'd want to be able to have both of those and be polished. But the guys, I think, that are super

polished in college that might have, you know, some production, but they have no getoff juice. and they've got no power. NFL tackles can, they're going to swallow those guys. No question. Some more kind of breaking news today over the last 48 as you're listening. Jimmy G. UCLA,

from what you know, number one, what does it look like timetable from him? And then also, like, would we have seen Tray Lance already a little bit more if they liked them? Are you believing that he's had his best

three weeks of practice and that everything's good? Can they pull this thing off? well I think I you know he didn't play great when he got his opportunity earlier but then he was hurt like I think he had a toe or something like Tray Lance had some something wrong with me at some type of injury he was battling through and then we didn't really you know haven't really seen him since I believe in the kid like he's one of those guys where I kind of learn my lesson I go back to the you know kind of the Mahomes and the Josh Allen drafts right of guys that have all this physical ability and then you add they're highly intelligent and they work really hard you're like eventually they're going to just figure out it out. I mean, that's where I am with trade lands. So whether or not we see that this year or whether that's something we see, you know, a year or two from now, like he's eventually going to put the puzzle together because he's just too physically gifted. And he's too smart and he works too hard. So I'm excited to see him. You know, we haven't heard, you know, when Mahomes was in,

when he's in KC sitting behind Alex Smith, like all that stuff was leaking out of there. Like this dude's putting on a show and practice. Like, maybe the rest of the world hasn't seen this guy, but just wait. Like, this is, this kid's going to be unbelievable. We haven't heard that same information leaking out of San Francisco, but maybe that's just because Kyle is not letting stuff out of the building, who knows?

You get Wally pipped by Trey Lance, but let's say Jimmy G comes back, and I think the three of us were on the Niners against the Titans, and they gave out the stat that when Jimmy G throws a pick, it goes downhill fast. Very downhill. Respectfully,

is there a quarterback you would trust less in the playoffs? then Jimmy G. I mean, two is completing every ball. Granted that's three yards downfields of the T. I mean, Baker's eliminated at this point. But yeah, Jimmy scares me personally. I mean, I play with Jimmy. I really like Jimmy, but he scares me.

Like sometimes I do not know where the ball is going to go. I mean, I just go back to that championship game, right? I mean, I know they ran the ball down the Packers throat that Super Bowl year. But what did they throw the ball like three times? Like seven, I want to say. Yeah. I mean, they didn't throw the ball at all. And it was like, I get the sense.

And I saw it in the game to the night against the Titans before the first half. It was like a minute 20. They had timeouts. Yeah. They get the ball back and they just, and Kyle just kind of runs out the half. And I'm like, like, like, I remember that. Yeah, he was almost like, we're going into the tunnel.

Yeah. Like no chance. Yeah. Think about all these teams that, you know, you think about the Green Bayes, the Buffalo's, like Kansas City. Like Dallas is like, they're featuring their quarterback. And you just get the sense with Jimmy like, oh my gosh, he's trying to hide him. Like just like, no, no, no.

Detroit. Detroit tried to get, Detroit got points backed up with under two minutes to go against the Cardinals last week. Like, that's the aggressiveness that Dan Campbell had with Jared Gough. Or was it Blow or golf in that guy? I think it was golf in that game before Blow came in this past week. But yeah, like that says it all when in a game that's relatively low scoring, you're at like the 30 or whatever it was. And you got a minute and 20 to go and you're like, no, I think we'll go to the half. So, I mean, and to compare, I heard somebody say this earlier, they're like, hey, they could end up.

in a situation where they can win multiple games in the playoffs and throw the ball five times a game. That was different. They had two really good matchups to do that in that playoff run and they were better. They had Minnesota and they would just kicking those ends asses. George Kittal was putting on a clinic

that day. Everson Griffin still remembers that and then the next week the Packers were not built for that fight. I don't think it's the same year for them, but it's a shame because they've done a really good job clawing their way into a playoff contending spot. I was wondering because I know you've watched what's wrong with the Cardinals

offense right now because the first month of the season it was everybody's getting targets. It's 30 points a game. We're celebrating Cliff Kingsbury. And the stat here, I don't know if you saw this stat with Cliff, but a combined 42, 20, and one games one through seven at Texas Tech and in Arizona. And then the rest of the year, it combined 16 and 43. Have they failed? to adapt or is it something fundamentally flawed with their personnel with their scheme? I think, you know, some of it. I think in college it can be a little bit skewed with those numbers too because you schedule, most teams schedule their cupcakes early and you get your better conference opponents later in the season. So that factors into that. But in the NFL, you know,

they were, Kyle's first year, they were terrible the whole year. His second year, they completely collapsed at the end of the year. And then this year, they're basically in the middle of a collapse. I think some of that can be attributed to the fact that Kyler's, you know, he's not a big guy. I think that he's had injuries and I think he's had performance. So like I think and I think those things are all married together. Like he's not he hasn't been totally healthy. He's missed some games. Hasn't been that same guy later in the season.

I think his legs are a little bit dead. So he's not quite as dynamic and as explosive as he is, you know, earlier on in the season. And then when you watch the tape, Chris, like these, he's got to get comfortable being, you know, kind of bored and taking layups because they spread you out so far.

There's there's little easy completions baked in there. He gets a little bit big play happy and big play, you know, kind of seeking that, instead of just taking the easy stuff that's there and just methodically moving the ball down the field. They've kind of gotten away from that a little bit. I think it's bit them. You made a great point we were talking the other day about like, and I don't think about it this way.

Like you take for granted that Lamar Jackson or Kyler, these guys that like their speed and athleticism is a real scary tool as a defense, that they're going to be fresh the entire year. Like even if Lamar doesn't get hit, like routinely. he has this great ability to not take big shots, which is incredible. But it wears him down. Like you don't see the same pop. You really don't.

When you squint and you look at it, you know, now granted, Kyler broke a runoff for like 55 yards the other day, but the same explosion is not there. And I wonder if people, you know, now that we've totally transitioned to athletic quarterbacks, like that's the way the game is moving. But how do we actually over the course of a 17-game season, like kind of spell them.

Yeah, no, I, and I think it doesn't even just show up when they're running. You talk about him popping a run. You can pop a run here or there. But then you're just, you don't have your legs as a thrower. Like you're just at more as asked of you than some of these other quarterbacks throughout the whole year. And in a long season, I think it takes its toll. Now, you got freaks like, you know, like Cam Newton was or like Josh Allen is.

Like those guys are built for that. Like they're not going to physically, you know, break down or where down when they're young and in their prime. It's a little bit different. But we, we're having that kind of. conversation the other day and I just kind of brought it up. You know, when you see a guy like Huntley go out there and have some success and you can say, okay, man, like this would be an uncomfortable conversation to have with a guy that's want to MVP, but you could be like, dude, look, when you're

fresh, you're a different player. Like, you're just, you're dynamic. And as you continue to get older, we still want you to be able to run because that's a huge part of what we do. So maybe we can identify some spots in the schedule like they do, you know, in the NBA or in baseball and kind of use the load management route and say, hey, Huntley, we can beat the Jacksonville, Jaguars. We play the week five. We're playing the Jets tonight. You know, we got them. So let's let Huntley get this weekend there. You add that. Maybe you can find another game later in the year. Or maybe it's a situation where, hey, you know, we get a 17 point lead in the first half against a bad team. Get them out of there.

We're going to get some work. Yeah. Yeah. Let that kid get out there. Then you have the buy week. And now you've all of a sudden you've kind of given him three kind of markers to get a little extra rest so you keep his legs alive. So you're basically proposing Lamar to Carolina. the next Matt Roll Lamar Jackson, Marrish. I was following that on social, so I was at the charger game, and then I would like check in on

on Twitter, whatever, see what was going on around the league, and I was like kind of trying to, I was, that was taken over Twitter. Yeah, who's playing quarterback. Chris. I don't love that. A truss is a framework typically consisting of rafters, posts, and struts supporting a roof bridge or other structure.

Yeah. So it's literally like managing load. We're just talking about Big trust, yeah, big trust. Yeah, and it's a load. Somebody needs to write

gym once he gets over Joe Burrow and wink and all those guys, tell them that it's perfectly in line with your branding. Let's get this guy some rest. No, I just say with the Cardinals, man, it's frustrating because you're on your rookie deal with Kyler.

Like the window is now. This is a really good football team. I mean, they have some holes. It's just the kitchen is going to get hot. It's already hot. for Cliff, like, you have to take advantage of these great generational talents when you're on your first deal. And so we'll see. I mean, they could go on a run here. But one of the biggest

problems I see for them is, I don't know if you notice this, they don't have a lot of good hot options. Like, I'm watching like third and four, third and three. The ball needs to come out now. Like, there's not a quick option for them a lot of time. No nuke. No nuke. Yeah, Nook, yeah. I mean, it just feels like to me they're a little bit off kilter, and this is going to be a big test for Cliff. You talk about another guy on a rookie deal who, you know, you cover the Chargers every week.

What is wrong with this team? And I hate to be negative about it because there's a lot right with them, but it's so tantalizing. I don't know if you get this feeling as well, but you're just like, where are the holes? I mean, there's personnel holes, obviously. And when you're missing Joey Bosa, that's a big deal. when you're missing players due to COVID, that's a big deal.

But it was the Texans last week. You know, like, what did they exploit? Can the charges fix these problems and be consistent? Can they win out? Yeah, I mean, we were sitting there at the end of the game. I was telling Matt Money Smith, who's doing the play-by-play. I'm like, look, you know, we can all look at this. And I'm sure a lot of people look at it and say, you take, you know, Joey Bosa doesn't

play, Derwin James doesn't play, Tranquil gets hurt early, Justin Jones doesn't play. Michael Davis doesn't play. like those that's a lot of starters i'm like until you look over to the side you realize the houston texans who are the houston texans first and foremost they're not any good yeah and now they're minus like four their regular starting offensive linemen um so and they're without brandon cooks who's their you know their key weapon their only on my fantasy team is a key weapon too is one of the championship anyways nice we'd overcome yeah thank you derrick henry hurt too on my team anyways dan man it's still still to make it all happen that says a lot about the owner um you know

To me, when you watch it, everything, like when you see when they were like dead last and third down defense before that game. So even, you know, when they've had guys, they've been terrible on third down. And they had been better against the run over the last month. And then that that went reverted right back to form of the issues they had. I mean, that Kenneth Murray now playing on the edge, he trying to find a spot for him where he's comfortable. But because they were missing Bosa and his backup rumpf wasn't playing. They let, you know, Murray play out there on the edge. And he just, he's not real.

comfortable there yet. So they're struggling getting off blocks at the line of scrimmage. The linebackers are getting swallowed up a little bit and then they're missing tackles at the third level. So, I mean, if you can't get off the field on third down, you can't stop the run. Your offense then get out in the field. So, and they move the ball offensively up and down the field. I think the only charters maybe only punted one time in the whole game. But, uh, but missing Eckler is, I mean, like missing that, that safety blanket and missing a couple of those guys can really be disruptive. I mean, what do you think about this? What do you think about this? I want to ask you this. Because I, you know, been around the teams I've been around. There's always like when stuff,

when you have a game like this, right, you can't lose this game. Like there's three games left. You're fighting for a playoff position. Usually you have one of those guys that's just like, this is not happening. Like this is not happening. And I think that Derwin James is that guy. So, you know, maybe him not being out there. First in my mind would be Derwin. But I, you know, yeah, you're right. I mean, like, you have to walk into that state. stadium and somebody's like a teammate's got to you know you got to shake some people man like wake up i know it's a i think it was an early game uh the whole thing it was like 20 000 people in the 20 000 people in the stadium you know like a big emotional let down from from that last game

like this is a tailor-made trap game and you get trapped yeah you know you have guys though like that you play it was like like who would who would do that like who are you around that would just like, hey, guys, this is not happening. Fuck, I mean, when I got old, it was me. But, you know, early in my career would be like, well, we were never in a position throughout the first eight years of my career. We were on the other side. So we were the team that would ambush like Drew Brees when he came into town.

Like they were 10 and 1 and then we were talking about this recently. I mean, there were a few games like that where we were the lions and somebody else was the Cardinals. But, you know, when I get to New England, obviously it's Brady, it's Devin McCordy, it's Matt Slater. It's like there's, you see how easily those names roll off the time. Yeah. And there's another sheet of names like Dante Hightower, one of the best leaders I've ever been around,

regardless of age, status, anything. Maybe the best leader I've ever been around on defense. And then, you know, when I got to Philly, it was, yeah, it was me, Fletch, Malcolm, like, you're right. There have to be those guys on a team that has championship aspirations that can shake people and say like, hey, it's fucking Wednesday, but you need to, your alarm clock needs to be going off right now. dude like you know and so I I look around that roster and the one thing with Justin Herbert being a young guy not being incredibly vocal it seems which is not a problem yeah but then you've got to have

guys that can kind of get in your shit a little bit and I don't know you know it's a it's a really good question um I saw it I saw it in my time in Baltimore they had it was the same thing there was a bunch of guys between you know Ray and Ed Reed and Suggs those guys were all like they had dominant personalities. it would not let that happen. But then I went to Cleveland and it was like, there's nobody here to fill that spot. Like it's just that didn't exist. Culture is a weird thing.

I mean, in the NFL, like, you know, which teams actually maintain a culture and can like, you know, Baltimore is one. You know who Baltimore is. This year and 15 years ago, like they're kind of, they have the same mindset. And a lot of that is dependent on winning and coaching and that sort of thing. But, yeah, I mean, part of the culture you have to have is a. couple of veterans that aren't afraid to, you know, shake it up, speak their mind, get people going. And, you know, a team who right now needs to have veteran leadership and they got plenty of it is

the, the Pats. And I wonder, you know, watching that game, we said this after the first game. I said when we, when they play later in the year, it's going to be more indicative of what this matchup really looks like. Yeah. And that's not a great thing for New England. As you could see, they see each other again. They probably will. I think they might. What do you think happens and do you think any of these problems are solvable for the Patriots if they see them again? I don't know. I just think if they played Buffalo in regular weather that Buffalo wins that first meeting as well, they're just a, I think they're a better team.

And I think the gap at quarterback, and it's no slight on Mack Jones. He's played great. He's a rookie. But the gap between the quarterbacks there is enormous. And I think that that was on display the other day. And I don't see that really changing, you know, provided they don't. play in a freaking, you know, typhoon or whatever. They'll dial up some weather

up there. They'll do a Buffalo Wild Wings thing up there. They really will. I mean, it's just be New England luck. They'll be, but I mean, yeah, when Josh is on, some of those throws outside the numbers, there's no defense for that. No. How about some of the ones, yeah, where he's outside, thrown back inside the hash and you're like, good

luck with that. Not to mention fourth and one, they can boot him. He can make three guys miss. I mean, that's three big athletes. Some of the best athletes I've ever seen, like Jamie Collins and guys like that but like you've neutralized that second level of like basically monsters because you have one at quarterback and who converted what um you know he was 12 for 64 running the ball we said that hey if you want to win with the bills you got to burn the ships and say

10 15 carries a week for Josh uh you know four first downs on his head and one of the big things was six to 12 on third down and that's the frustrating thing a lot the same way that that the chiefs have become this relatively checked down operation, check down being a relative term. To me, the bills don't scare me like, oh, one play. It's just like these continuous, an onslaught of darts that you're just like, hey, and the Pats can't rush him.

They didn't get a lot of pressure on him. Matt Judon didn't play big. He hasn't played big in a couple weeks. But more than anything, DJ, they're not built to play from behind. The Pats are not built to play from behind. So if you jump them, this is what happens. I think there's a couple teams like that, though.

If you look at kind of the playoff format and the tournament, like I don't think as great as the Colts have been playing. Like I don't think they want to find themselves down 14 points in a playoff game either. No chance. No chance. I mean, you play man against Mac. He struggles a little bit. And honestly,

they're down Nelly right now, Nelson Aguilar, who people don't talk about a lot, but I wonder if that factors in the fact that they go 10% on third down, who Bill pointed to that phase of the game specifically. When he gives you something in the press conference, that means he's really mad about it. They were awful on third down. I worry that this is kind of who they are this year.

Maybe they can correct some of this stuff with weapons on the outside next year, but they might have a ceiling if they find themselves down. Although, if you remember the JC Jackson near pick in the fourth quarter, at that point, I think it's 26-21, they're backed up. up. J.C. picks that ball off. That game's different. And same thing in the end zone early in the game. They followed that up with a touchdown. So if you're a Pat's

fan, there's hope, but you got to hope that Josh Allen has a bad day, too. Yeah. No, I think you're relying on that. And I just think that they're, you know, as you get into the postseason, and this is like, not a lot, knock at all on Drew, but like Drew Breeze in the regular season versus Drew Breeze in the postseason was just slightly

different because, as you know, you've seen it. When you get in the postseason, everything's a tick faster. Those windows are a little bit tighter, a little bit smaller. And I do think that arm strength starts to come into play a little bit more in the postseason than maybe it does during the regular season. You mix in weather and tight windows. Like you got to make some big boy throws to go on a deep postseason run. So I look at quarterback play in the postseason. I think it's more about kind of your ceiling than your floor at that position. Like Mac has a really high floor. High floor. A lot like his team. A lot like his team. Absolutely going to be in the postseason every

year. But like Joe Flacco is a great example. Joe Flacko all the lead stuff. It's nonsense, right? But is Joe Flacco like a great player? Like he can play great. He has a super high ceiling. So what I bet on him to do that over 17 weeks, not necessarily, but over a three game stretch, he's capable of making big time, big time throws. And he did that over over a playoff run. Speaking of that, top end like ceiling conversation, I said this the other day. And as the words were coming out of mouth, I was like, If I say that in public, I might get killed. But I think Justin Fields might be the best one after all the smoke clears if they get this higher right. Now, that's an enormous if.

If is a rangy word in the dictionary if you're a Chicago Bears fan. But I really do think that Justin Fields has got maybe the highest ceiling in the draft. I love his makeup, the whole thing. Do you think we've kind of just written him off for dead? Same thing with Zach Wilson. Same thing with Trevor Lawrence a little bit. Like Mac, he arrived on scene and they had this beautiful. car for him to drive.

Yep. You know what I mean? Like the other guys are in, you know, Chrysler's. No fun saying by his driving a car, like an old Chrysler. What do you think about Justin Fields? What do you think about these other rookie quarterbacks?

Or have we written them off too quickly? Davis Mills. Davis Mills. Dude, I was there for that. I think Davis Mills should be next year's quarterback in Houston. Call me crazy. He's going to be.

I would bet you money he's in quarterback next year. He's better than anybody in this upcoming draft class. And to be totally honest. honest, like just how they've played this year, he would be second to Mac Jones in terms of all the rights of how they've played. And you called that early this season. You said, keep an eye on this one name, Davis Mills, and I didn't watch a pack 12. Yeah, well, dude, he only started like 12 games. So he was a five-star quarterback, like the number one recruit in the country and just got hurt a bunch at Stanford. And he played well. He was like a fascinating case

because you just didn't think he was like super athletic because he had the knee injuries and he had the freaking ginormous knee brace that he played with. And then he go to the pro day and he's got no knee brace on and you're watching him run around. I think he ran like in the four sixes or something. I'm like, dude, this guy's actually a good athlete. It's kind of like how a linebacker with old school like, yeah, cowboy collar. You're going to be stiff. Like I don't care if you aren't, you might be the most fluid guy in the world. You will look stiff. Yeah, you just look like all the linebackers in the program, the movie the program. You look like Alvin Mack. But, uh, but, but I say, Davis Mills did great on the neck circumference test.

His neck is not getting injured. That's one good thing about Davis Mills. But, but, But, okay, back to the thick. Fields, Wilson, I'm not asking the rank. I'm doing any cute shit. But, like, do you, is there any of them that you see, you know, an excitement that maybe we haven't seen yet, you know, because people don't get it? Yeah, I think all of them have shown you the flashes. Like, the crazy thing, if you had told me that we'd be at this point in the season,

and Trevor Lawrence, like, I think somebody posted it since, like, late October has one touchdown pass. Yeah. That's insane to me. But you did see some flashes with him. You've seen them early in the years. Zach Wilson, you saw it with his last. legs like he's a phenomenal athlete he's got he's got to get some help but we always talk about it on

the podcast with bucky we talk about with these young quarterbacks you've got to have the three peas right you've got to have some some protection some playmakers and a play caller and i think if you look at a lot of these ricky situations you could say man they're maybe oh for three maybe one for three like new england new england new england you look at protection check play caller check uh and then playmakers solid but you know they have a run game that they can defend on yeah so i mean that's that's a maybe and the complimentary full which is a is a nice thing to have as well absolutely but like you know you look at the jags like he doesn't have a ton of players around him the offensive line's not very good and the offense is

antiquated so um he's got let's wait let's get him some help here before we yeah yeah i thought you know i was a little unrealistic but i was like maybe we'll see something different i don't know who do you like is that as that head coach down there seen a lot of names floated yeah i mean i don't know i it would be interesting to see what happens i think having somebody with some credibility having, you know, one and been a head coach would probably be the way to go down there with some experience. Yeah. Go ahead.

Who do you like? It's, I don't know. I haven't done my research, but I do love Doug. I mean, like, I played for him. He's a great dude. He'd be the anti-urban Meyer down there. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Like, he'd walk in the building and people would be like, oh, I like this guy. I want to play hard for him because he respects me as a man. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's the two names that I had were Doug and then you look at at Colwell. like those would be the two I think that would make a lot of sense down there to try and help nourish this young quarterback. Interview requests at time of tape.

Bowles, Lefwich, Quinn, Kellynne Moore, Peterson, Caldwell, and Nathaniel Hackett. Now I'm excited to see Lefich at some point as a head coach. I don't know if it's going to be this time around, but all right, give me the worst matchup in the playoffs for the Cowboys. The Cowboys, they beat the dog out of the football team, so now they're the Super Bowl favorites again. You know, Dak looked not great the last month,

but hey, it's all gone now. It's America's team. So give me the worst matchup, the biggest speed bump for them. Well, I think I'll get laughed at for saying it, but I think you could appreciate it. Like, do you think they want to see the Philadelphia Eagles for the third time? I don't know. There's no fear factor.

There's no fear factor with the Eagles. They don't have any, you know, there's no fear of the Dallas Cowboys. They can shorten the game. They can run it. They can eat the clock. They can rush the quarterback. like it's kind of a sneaky bad matchup for them. Well, yeah, because the offensive line, the offense line pretty good.

Now you're scared of Randy Gregory. You're scared of Parsons. Like, you're scared of DeMarcus Lawrence. Like that front's not quite scared of those guys. I'm sure they have like a healthy respect for them. And yeah, you can shorten that game. But I don't think, and I could be wrong, at least since I was in Philly, I don't think we ever beat Zeke.

Not one. Interesting. We beat them one. even Super Bowl year. We went down there to Dallas and beat the dog out of them, but they had, God, who was it? It was the old Washington football team running back. Alfred Morris. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, like, I don't know. That's my big question. Like, if the Eagles can stop the run against these guys, you know, yeah, that could be a scrappy football game. It's kind of like I said, it's like a sneaky, tough game for them.

Three times is the, you've got to be a team. three times. That's really tough. Even the Saints found that out last year with the bucks. But would you say, would you say, like, I was looking at it from the top, top of the conference, like, for Green Bay, I think Dallas is kind of a, is a tough

matchup for them. That's their worst matchup. Yeah. They're the best team in the league in my opinion right now. I know a lot of people are getting smitten with Kansas City because they beat, they beat the Chiefs, like, like, like, the Vikings beat the Chiefs for 45 minutes. I still think it's Green Bay.

Who's the best team in the league right now? Yeah, I would probably lean towards Green Bay. I mean, I just saw Kansas City live a couple weeks ago, and they were missing some guys. But yeah, I just think their offensive line from a past protection standpoint still worries me once you get in the postseason. I think their offensive lines actually built to run it, maybe even more so than throw it.

And I think once you get in and start seeing these elite D lines week after week in the postseason that they can exploit that a little bit. But, you know, I think Green Bay, even though they're missing those two studs on the offensive line with Bokhtiartier and Eilton Jenkins, like it hasn't seemed to bother them. And Smith and Savage coming back, right? Yeah. So, like, yeah, they've done an amazing job. They've done to a third string technically left tackle. And I thought at the beginning of the season, I was wrong about this.

I said if there's one team as offensive line situation is going to really hamper a contender, it's going to be Green Bay's. But not so, even with the toe injury. So knock on wood, they keep that going. You got anything else for Daniel Jeremiah? Could go all day. I could go all day. Burrow and empty? I mean, come on.

Yeah, dude. How about it? How about that burrow and empty? How about Joe Burrow and empty? How about Joe Burrow in general? How about Joe Burrow? So I love, he's like my favorite player in the league. Okay?

Like, he is my favorite. And then I'll text him about four times a year. But like after that, after that game of the night, I just texted him. All my text said was dude. That was my text. Hey, we love Angry Burrow. Like, you know when Burrow shows up to the, you know, the Michael Jordan and I took that

personally thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, you can tell when he's kind of got that mindset and that was a bad recipe for Wink and the Ravens the other day. He's a savage. Like, he is, he is an absolute savage. I absolutely love the guy. I love what he brings.

And he's, you know, we're talking about the empty stuff. I tweeted that out. But it's true. Like, that's what he did. at LSU. I mean, that that that jump that he made was all because they were like either we're going to be an empty. We're getting five out. And I haven't seen anybody since I've been evaluating that's as quick just getting to number three and number four in the progression and the ball is gone. And they've got real they got real dudes now that can win on the outside. Yeah,

because your number three is as good as some team. I mean like, uh, draft somebody for them real quick. Oh, for, uh, for Cincinnati. Yeah, they, they, they bypass the, the line thing so far. dock on wood it's been good um probably going there early next year is there are the good tackles to look at next year yeah yeah it's actually a pretty good group i also think like they're in the great spot where they can start building their team that they know they're going to play with leads so like you you know they have two good edge rushers now but you can't have enough just keep just keep adding corners and edge rushers because you're going to with this offense you're going to be playing with a lead a lot we did that in st louis and we never had leads they were like oh let's just

let's get another corner another edge rusher this would be Good down 10 points in the third. Hey, Daniel, lastly. Yeah, lastly. That quarterback from Virginia, he should probably return for his final season with the fifth round grade now and come, do the Kenny Pickett thing and come back as a first rounder next year. Yeah, I mean, I think we got to get the, we got to get the Virginia active in the portal. We're going to have to do a little bit of work in the portal. By the way, I just saw you lost the offensive linemen to SCs.

Bobby Haskins. He's pretty good. Yeah, he's good. We lost one to Michigan, one to SMU. We're very active in the portal. It's just going the other way. He's not. We like doing that.

Oh, dude, I was talking to somebody the other day with one of these at a team. And dude, I was talking about the NIL and how it's changing. And this is like a big, you know, powerhouse program. And he was like, I'm like, how much is like the top freshman, like the top like five star dudes? Like what are they, what are they going to pull in NIL? And he's like, the top handful are going to be close to a million, close to a million bucks. and then we started talking about some guys that were leaving and came out early that maybe shouldn't have come out.

And he's like, yeah, like they used to joke and it was tongue and cheek. Like these dudes are going to take a pay cut to go to the end. They're legitimately going to be guys that take pay cuts to go to the lake. No question. No question. And they're also going to find out what taxes mean because that's a motherfucker as well. Daniel Jeremiah, thank you so much. Catch him on Move the Sticks and all over your Amazon streaming device.

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