Green Light with Chris Long - Green Light Exclusive with Lane Johnson

Episode Date: January 23, 2020

0:24 - Open (Barefoot Guest). 2:45 - Lane and the Patriots. 5:35 - Lane in the League. 10:00 - Jason Peters. 15:15 - Retirement, Luke Kuechly and Teammates. 22:10 - Pro Bowl and Opponents. 28:05 - Texas Roots and a Bull Rider Father. 43:21 - Best and Worst Game Memories. 51:10 - Scariest Defensive Players. 55:16 - Super Bowl Memories. 1:05:00 - Quick Hitters (What animal would you be, Sooner Mascot Origins, Item to bring on Desert Island).  About Chalk Media: Following the unfiltered voice and vision of Chris Long, Chalk Media is the interactive online community for you, the intelligent and humorous sports fan. Driven by access, Chalk delivers a unique perspective that cuts through the canned talking points and provides a variety of content from your favorite sports and entertainment celebrities. Here at Chalk, we don’t take ourselves too seriously, but we are rooted in challenging the perception of professional athletes. We embrace the “real” with a unique combination of humor and intelligence. Chalk is a community with a voice beyond 240 characters that brings a perspective and vibe to a traditionally brash and boastful sports media space. Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more. Nothing is off limits at Chalk - hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. 🌍🏀🏈SUBSCRIBE NOW ⚾🏒⛰️ http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

You guys rolling? We don't really need to intro this guy. He's got the voice of an angel. Everybody knows him. And the hair of a Mustang, huh? Lane Johnson joins me on the Greenlight Pod. Lane, a good buddy of mine, a teammate for two years in Philly. We'll take these feet off the screen.

Yeah, you know, I think people, it's like... It's not a good look. It's not a great look, but I was going to get to that. He's the first barefoot guest we've had here on the Green Light Pod in the studios. I made him, I definitely made him take a shower. He was smelling like a wet dog when we got out of the gym earlier. I told him it was my feet because I wear these temperatex slippers without any socks on. And then you end up stinking and I didn't bring my odor eaters plus with me.

You really have odor eaters plus? Yeah. I didn't know they still made those. I thought people started wearing socks and taking care of. Our trainer room has them. Oh, really? Heck yeah. So I was going to say, I mean, I got a surprise visit from Lane.

He was driving back down in Texas and then he stopped through Virginia. and in Lane fashion he texts me one in the morning hey are you uh are you home i'm like well first it was are you up and i'm like don't face time me bro i'm in i'm in bed the kids sleep in and meg's not going to like it if the facetime goes off at one in the morning and i'm screaming to one of my teammates for 30 minutes which is what i do a lot but he he said uh i'm gonna i'm gonna drive down i said great we'll spend a couple days lane is great because he makes me feel very organized the guy has no shoes on he lost his wallet while he was here he had a surprise Rise flight to Orlando, which is, yeah, second, hey, good.

Third consecutive Pro Bowl here. Good for you. He's been an all pro. One of the best tackles I ever played against. I'll get that out of the way right here. Hey, man. Hey, I appreciate you. I appreciate you churching me up right now.

Hey, it's all good. So Lane joins us on Green Light, and we're going to talk about a range of topics. The Pro Bowl included, which we both have opinions on. But I guess the first question, the burning question that's going to be in the in the in the comment section here is are you having fun i don't usually don't answer dumb-ass questions like that but since you since you asked it i'll say yes hey is this a look at me is this a wrestling promo huh is this a wrestling promo

what this is my what e-harmony personality profile video um so famously you got into it a little bit with the Patriots nation about their yeah but how did that happen well i uh went on I went on a bar stool and did the podcast. And before I said, I'd rather win the Super Bowl than win. And Big Cat goes win five Super Bowls. So he put the five Super Bowls on there. It didn't take a credit for any of that shit for saying any of it. But hey, I took it right on the chin and probably taking it the rest of my life.

Yeah, you said we were talking about it yesterday. We had a nice day yesterday, four-wheeling around the farm and took Lane out and see God's country, Virginia. It really is. It is God's country. I did underestimate it, and I was, had to give me a spot up here pretty damn close. I got a cabin. I got a cabin with your name off on it.

I'll break off an acre or two. Lanes, Ponderosa. So we were talking in the four-wheeler, and that came up, and you said that's probably going to follow you the rest of your life. Yeah, hey. And in one region of the country. Hey, maybe on my tombstone.

Having fun. Having fun. Just don't even put the date of birth and death, just what happened. You know, and I played in New England. It's a relevant conversation, obviously. I mean, New England makes no bones about it. They're fans, their players. They, you know, we're all business here.

Yeah. So on one hand, I understand why some people might be upset with you because it seems like you were being dismissive of kind of everything they've done in their way of life up there. But on the other hand, I kind of, you know, that they lead with that. That's kind of their MO. So you pointing out that it's not about fun up there is not, it's not revolutionary. I just wanted to piss somebody off.

And it worked. That's it. And it worked. For the record, I had some really great teammates up there. If it weren't for the scheme, I probably would have never found my way down to Philly where we met and became good buddies. I was down there in a three technique and you see how that could be a problem. Yeah. I'd say the similarities was probably just because OU, where I went to college was pretty hardcore discipline.

Yeah. So I lived that life. Yeah. And it's good. I mean, we, hey, we put in work and you grind. Yeah. So I guess it just comes down to me being jealous. He heard it here.

Hey, for being honest. It's a little bit of jealousy, a little bit of trolling, and there you have it. Now it's going to be on your tombstone. Lane Johnson. Karma, son. Hey, he comes. You're going to live to be an old man. By the end of your run, they're going to have forgotten about it because we're going to, I mean,

the way you take care of your body, you might live to be 120. We'll see. Hey, we'll see. What are we putting the over under on your mortality? Hey, 10 years, I'll let you, hey, we'll do a re-we'll get the profile redone. Okay, good. But you do take great care of your body. We were just in the gym a little bit ago.

I've never met somebody. And obviously what, this is your 29 now. This is going to be your eighth year coming up. Yeah. Time flies. I remember when you came out of college, I swear to God, I looked at you the first time I saw you. I was like, there's no way this guy has an anchor. He's too skinny.

He looks like the tight end. that you ended up at OU from a juke. You started out as a tight end and a quarterback. No emergency quarterback for you this year behind Josh McCown. No, even if I had the bummed ankle, so even if I wanted to, I couldn't. You couldn't do it.

No. We were about down to it, and I say we. I mean, I still consider myself like an eagle, but I'm sitting on the couch. I say we. Hey, you're always part of Eagle, son. But yeah, you started out as a tight end, and you end up as a tackle.

You come in a league and I'm like, this guy's kind of skinny. There's no way. I'd love to test his anchor out. And then little did I know I had to go against you in practice for two years. You have a hell of an anchor. You anchor, to me,

I don't know what it is the way you reset your hips or you anchor at the last second. There'll be a moment in there where I think I have you bold. And then at the last minute, you're really able to kind of arch your back. And how do you do that? Yeah, so for my rookie year,

I was giving up, you know, every time I gave up an initial bull rush, I would probably stagger about three yards. Yeah. Just trying to catch my anchor. And now that's kind of control. I think it's a lot more with the timing of the hands, the hands and the feet. And I guess all that energy hitting at one time instead of being kind of scattered. But, you know, I guess after years of taking asswopens, you better learn a better way to cope with it.

And you did because, yeah, I never thought of your anchor as being an issue. It was an issue earlier in my career But then when I got there I really I thought you did a good job of learning To set that You know in plenty of time And you do

You do a lot off the field That seems to be not only like crazy shit I'll see you in the gym doing stuff Modalities I've never heard of Tony Perkis like in heavy weights Just going a little bit overboard Just going overboard with the extra work I mean you got the band work

You have all types of crazy machinery Just on YouTube just Just YouTube in different you know, conspiracy theory type CrossFit stuff. But a lot of it, when I talk to you, seems to be very scientific and for a reason, like it's intentional. It all has to do with the functionality of playing football. What's some of the stuff you do off the field that might make people kind of be?

Well, a lot of football is all like quad. It's all like a lot of pushing. So your front part of your body was your anterior side? Yeah. It's very overloaded compared to your posterior side. So we live in a society where all we do is sit on our ass all day. And so you lose that strength and you lose a lot if you don't work on it. So I just work a lot on that side.

And far as recovering, I think body tempering when it came in, you know, the big phone. So explain to people what that is because people don't know what tempering is because I didn't know what tempering was. Yeah, so basically, instead of a phone, it's built in the shape of a foam roller, but instead of a foam roller, it's a big ball of steel. So the weighed like 120 pounds. And what we'll do is get on yoga mats stacked up and lay on our stomachs. and we'll put that pipe and roll out your calves. Hey, roll out the hamstrings and basically you're getting piped up pretty good. Hey, can we be mature, please?

Yeah, no problem. Be mature. Hey, and then get those back, get your back. Just a bunch of dudes in the corner of the giant dudes. Like, just a bunch of caves rolls in the cave. I walk in the weight room after practice and there would be like, it's like a herd of cattle. Him, Big V. You know, who else is back there?

Matt Pryor. Hey, what's funny is the skill players are doing it now too. The skill players were doing it this year. it started with the big guys to get these big steel pipes and they put those big steel pipes on each other and you get you get like some some of the cracks are a little too much for me they roll the things you know yeah there's different methods to the madness but a lot of it's just trying to strengthen that over time and then a lot is like joint distraction um so your your ankles are real big far as your mobility ankle flexion's huge you do a lot of ankle flexions yeah well a lot of your

ankles may get stiff over time doing repetitive movements not going to the full range and if you ever get like a high ankle sprain which hell i've been getting every year so far and it feels good so you get that scar tissue built in there and you got to get that scar tissue out and get your mobility back um so yeah so that's a lot and then obviously you know one thing i learned just from being around jason peters uh one thing he does every day is he'll get in the sauna i mean cold tubs every day but he's always doing core work and you should see the stuff he can do. It's pretty damn impressive. He is, I'm glad you brought JP up

because he's somebody that you talk about a lot and every O-Lyman that's played with him, especially to tackle. JP to me is not only a Hall of Fame or an all-time great, obviously, in Philly. I played against him in Buffalo and never got a chance to play against him in Philly. But the guy is a legend.

But a lot of great players don't want to pay. pass it on to younger players. And one thing I knows about him is he's very open with the younger players. He wants to help. That was right away, too, when I first got there. Yeah. And I guess it's probably his family. Like his family, every time I met him after the game, they're always very welcoming.

That's just what kind of people I think they are, and that's how he's brought up. Yeah, where do you want to start with that guy? We've got lots of stories. How talented is he? Give me some, give me some manicotes on how talented he is. So when I... Because he can still beat me in a foot race, and I'm about... You hate.

I don't want to admit it, but it was a few years ago. We're in the bubble, and he was kind of running around after practice, and so I started running, and we got on a full-brown sprint row when he beat me. Oh, yeah. And I was going, what the fuck's going on around here? He's about 10 years older than you and about 40 pounds heavier. Yeah, 50 pounds heavier guys. So when I think of just talent-wise, I can't think of a guy that could be as talented as him,

like in their prime because of how, you know, he's six, four-and-a-half, and then he's 350, 360. And whenever I heard about that weight, I was like, there's no way this guy can move. No way. At all. That's a mauler. That's all that you could do with that way.

I was thinking slow. And then I went out there. I was like, bro, this dude does quickness like a DB. And I was like, and then when I got there, my rookie year is like in this ninth or tenth year. And I see that. And I was like, holy shit. Yeah.

But he was helpful. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, right away. I mean, it was, we grew up pretty, I guess we're both from Texas. So I guess our personality is pretty similar. I like to joke a lot.

He likes to play around some, but just kind of clicked. And, yeah, it's just like a beacon of knowledge. Now, if a player's struggling in the O-line room, he's never going to make them feel worse about themselves. He's always going to go out of them up. No, a lot of stuff he'll pull you aside away from kind of the crowd. That's kind of even when he's coaching. And a lot of times, I mean, even he knows young players

is that you're getting towed so much. You kind of get information overload. Yeah. And I think what he does a good job is kind of backtracking and give the guy a few simple things to work on. And that's what he helped me with. Okay, man, hey, laying long as your hips are low and long as your feet are moving,

and you're in a good athletic base. And the one thing he always told me was, is that the defensive end is going to react off what you present him. Right. So you're throwing hands, or you're not, are you low, or you know. And that's true. It's a game of chicken.

It's all about how quickly you can process, in my opinion what you guys are giving us. I mean, I think great rushers or good rushers even, they're not planners. They are planners who have a general plan but can react to variables in which you guys throw out there in your sets. Yeah.

Yeah, one thing, watching a lot of his tape early on, he was a big jump setter. I mean, he still doesn't now, but that's basically what he does. He would just hopped on people, bro. It looked like he was, hope, poop. Yeah. Just one big step.

And hey, that's not nobody. It's Julius Pepper. That's Jason Taylor. He's doing that too. And he makes it look easy and effortless. And it's hard to do. Yeah. It's hard, really hard to do.

And, you know, whenever he retires, whenever he hangs him up, I mean, it seems like he wants to play about 20 years. Yeah. I mean, we say. Do you know he played every game this year? It's impressive. That's impressive. It's impressive.

It's impressive, especially off an injury. And, you know, when he retires, there's a lot of guys. guys are getting to coaching because I don't think they know what the fuck they want to do. I think they're scared of the free time. I think, but I think he wants to get into coaching. I would bet if I could take my money to Vegas on this, I bet a million dollars. Yeah. That he's going to

be a coach and a very good one because he loves the game. He loves the game and he loves the people. That's what he loves. He loves helping people. I mean in Texas, I mean like it is in some other states, Texas football is a religion. Right. And, you know, I just, his story is probably the more remarkable stories there is.

Right. He's just a pretty unique individual all the way around. And, you know, we both know it. A lot of guys that are great. Our Hall of Famers are not necessarily humble guys, not necessarily guys who would help out and bring along younger folks. A lot of them feel threatened by younger folks for no reason.

We talked about this, like, retirement, and we were going through yesterday, is it's all about ego. I mean, I think half of being a football player is all about managing your ego. For JP not to have an ego like that, it's pretty remarkable because I would be walking around like I was king shit. I'd be walking around with my shirt off.

Just coming and going as a pleased. Exactly. We talked long and hard yesterday about, you know, I was telling you about retirement and how hard it is because eventually 10 years down the road you're going to have to deal with it. How do you balance, and I mentioned this, being retired, I think, is a great opportunity for you to reflect and learn things about yourself.

And the number one thing you have to deal with is, managing your ego because for years you get you go off of praise positive or negative reinforcement you're stressed you don't have time to think how do you as an athlete in your prime manage your health mentally when it comes to separating yourself from the game I mean a lot of times I think if you're good at what you do and then you get so obsessed with how good you are you get really damn insecure and so a lot of NFL players I can speak for myself I think a lot of guys are really insecure and you put on a persona we all do You put on this show, but I mean, we're just like we're humans, bro, just like everybody else.

So the thing is, is communicating. Yeah. And, you know, and knowing that, you know, I'm lucky with Brandon and some guys on the team that are very similar. So we can talk it out because we're very similar in that aspect. But, yeah, it's just the ego is the monster. And it's something, I think they made a good point to other days if, I think retirement will not be an issue. If your identity is not with what you do, it's not who you are. And they were talking, you know, they were talking about Luke Keekely.

Just the respect they had for him. So, hey. When you watch somebody like Luke retired. I think that guy has it all figured out because he's the smartest player I've ever played against. You know, every time we're playing him, he's calling out, you know, six, seven out of ten plays that we're about to run. Hey, watch the screen. Fuck. Watch the trap.

Fuck. Watch the outside zone. Fuck. Check, check. Check, check. Hey, do it. Hey. It's a bad feeling, bro.

And he was one of the best I've ever seen. Running around like a velociraptor on that field. I think with longer arms. I think a lot of this conversation, whether it's like mental health and football, which is becoming more prevalent, we talked about it. We talk about it all the time.

Managing, you know, the way you separate your ego from the game. And then also like when it comes time, I've been sitting here for a fall without it. We hadn't seen each other since last year. We talk all the time. You know, we hadn't seen each other since we were in Philly. And, you know, for me, a lot's changed.

And then you see things like Luke Keekeley, you see early retirements. You saw the Andrew Luck last year, which is injury related. And Marshawn Lynch. And Marshawn Lynch. I mean, Marshawn Lynch's comments were very on point. You know, and probably went over a lot of people's heads because they can't get over the packaging, some folks with Marshawn. But when you see a Luke Keekly retire or a guy leave the game early, what do you think? Well, I think, you know, with what he did, and then Marshaun, kind of his words of wisdom.

Didn't he step away for a second and then came back? So I think he got very good perspective on it all. I think he's talked to lots of older players and, you know, how the game comes to an end for everybody. And it really just gives you a whole new perspective and kind of enlightenment to what really matters. Obviously, you know, with this game, you're going to miss, you know, the playing. But I think you're going to miss the relationships to people that you're going to get it with. because when the game's over, those people are still there. That's what they make this for.

Cell phone. It's what they make that stress for. Yeah. Yeah. But that's why I mean like, I always say this because, you know, I used to be totally worried about, oh, what am I going to do without the locker room? And I'm lucky. I live in my hometown, so I got a bunch of good buddies I'm still tight with and this, that, and third.

But there's still guys I miss that I play with. But I think that your relationships that matter, they'll sustain themselves. Like I still talk to the guys that I play with on D-Line in St. Louis. I still talk to different guys in New England. And I still talk to guys in Philly. And the guys you lose touch with, maybe you weren't that tight. Yeah. I think it all kind of layer by layer reveals itself.

Yeah, over time. Over time. But yeah, I think you know who your homies are and who isn't. But it is what it is. And you talk about Brooks. I mean, Brooks has been a, Brooks has been a, you know, you guys don't go anywhere with each we joke about it you guys i'd say you fight like old ladies and uh or an old married couple yeah and uh oh yeah what why is that that you guys are so tight and that you guys found each other it seems like

almost immediately when he came to philly uh i don't know i guess our personalities are or are similar i think just from the perfectionist point of football um i would say he's a lot more classier than i am he's classier than he's made a lot better decisions he has not as impulsive decisions so yeah um so uh but other than that yeah only child i grew up with his mom um and then i think uh do we just love fucking with each other man yeah and sometimes it gets it gets bad we get real piss won't talk for a week just like you said like a no married couple but who's more sensitive you or him uh i want to say him but there's times where you can be sensitive yeah there's times where i just shit i'm a shit house bro and then then i get exposed and then and then we make up and then

Here we go again. So that was a pretty good self-awareness on your part there. Yeah. So last thing on the Keekly thing, the brotherhood thing, the ego thing. I think the most telling thing is that Luke Keekly is one of the best linebackers that ever played the game. He retired last week. Like anything, there's a 48-hour, you know.

Window where it's kind of relevant. Yeah, and then you move on. Like, who's talking about Luke Keekly? weekly this week. Yeah, and everybody's retirement thinks of some majestic ending. Yeah. And it's all a mirage. I'm just telling you, not everybody, but I spent years wondering what it was like to retire and are people going to care? I'm like paying attention to, you know, you feel so good when you retire because people pour in with like compliments. I think it's all you ever

want as a player is is to feel validated. Yeah. That's all it is. And we spend our whole career as trying to people please. Yeah. It is what it is. Yeah. So I guess when you get out of that, then it's kind of a... But the show stops. It's like with the Keeckley thing, it's like just like a game ends, your big retirement, your big moment. Your time of getting praised in that light ends, and then you realize that the game just moves on.

And every year, you know, I watch football this year in the fall. New stars are born, new teams. It's just on to the next guy. Yeah. And so it puts into perspective, you know, what's important. I mean, football is very important, but, you know, there's life outside of it. this interesting conversation that keeps occurring on, you know, just managing your ego

and separating that from the game. But part of having an ego is obviously the accolades and you have three straight pro bowls now. I was with you yesterday when you got the call that. Yeah, that's pretty been out of shape. Yeah, you were bent out of shape. Tell me why. I guess the only time I feel valid that is if you make, I guess you're seen as a pro bowler for that season means that you played up to your potential means that you, that's how

I validate it to myself. Now, there's different opinions, and there's obviously lots of guys that are very deserving that don't go. But I don't know. I've kind of built it up into a monster, and I try to, I want to be that every year. And I feel like if I'm not that, well, I'm declining and something, you know, like a standard. I don't know, but really, it's a big-ass party down there. I think Kelsey is going to be down there, and I'm kind of excited just to drink beers,

and hey we're not we're not there having to fucking force feed eggs and go to practice in 30 minutes we can just chill and drink a beer that's the truth um yeah but part of it is it's like you know how good you are and to me you're a premier tackle in the league right or left tackle yeah but i was saying it all goes back to ego and how you feel it's exactly right it's all bullshit just what you said it's all bullshit and there were times where i used to get bent out of shape about being snubbed in this shit and like you know i think there's times where you just have to sit back and let the tape run. And your tape, you know, whether you had gone this year or not, whether you had, you know,

somebody had bowed out or got hurt, it doesn't matter. It doesn't change your body of work. And again, this is, this is a praise thing. Yeah, it's a ego thing. It's a validation thing. But three straight. So that's got to feel pretty good. Yeah.

And another thing, you know, along with the validation, you know, the fan voting, bullshit and all that stuff with the Pro Bowl is there's this misconception that you have to fight if you don't go to a Pro Bowl that's one thing but also you're a right tackle at the end of the day and the way people talk about right tackles that's a stigma that you have to fight as well yeah but it's changing and it has changed so they got in the league why I think just because of the players that are over there over the right tackle yeah and that it's a lot of good ones it's when you go up and down the list it's it's tough and so um then I think you know just the market going up.

Trent Brown signing last year. And he was playing left for the Patriots, played right. He's going to the Pro Bowl. I don't know if he is. I don't know if he's hurt, but I know he made it. And then, yeah, just I think Ramsick for the Saints. Swartz has been the best, you know, for year and year out, and he started there in Cleveland.

So I don't know. I guess it's on the right tackle awareness finally. Yeah, we're getting a little more awareness. Because I agree with you. Most of the good rushers are on the left side. nowadays in the NFL. Yeah. And the way the game's changing, it's less physical.

So there's where it used to be that you put your, I'd say tackles have it pretty easy compared to the guards in the interior guys. Sure, but you remember there was a time where the right tackles were mawlers. There's a power, power side, and the other side was the. Mm-hmm.

And now you have to be able to block both. You have to be able to block guys with a plethora of moves. I mean, I remember, you know, Super Bowl year. Was that your best year? Or was this your best year this past year.

I feel like this year I didn't get to finish it but I feel like this year was my most was my best year as far as my power being able to anchor on the ball rush better

trying to make less pre-snap penalties but that year was a murder's row I remember I remember there was Vaughn there was Kale

it's just every week it was you know JP is just you know every week it was a different challenge so who's the biggest challenge

that you didn't expect to be a big challenge I mean I know you know you're ready for Vaughn, you're ready for Khalil. Is there one guy that jumps? Yeah, that's the thing. There's sometimes where I go out there and underestimate a guy. And you go out there and sometimes you get a good humble, humble ass whooping pie. We went out there and played the, I think it was a Colts couple.

Not this past year, the year before. 18. Yeah, it was in the rain. Jabal shared. Jabal's a good player. Yeah. Well, he was, they run a lot of stunts, bro. And he's got a heavy head like Stephen Means.

Yeah. He used to play with us. And bro, he was just, I just remember him, just hit me in the same. stern them a few times. I was going, hey, what the hell am I doing? So I better get my act together. So, yeah, I think he's a very underrated player. We hell, a lot of guys. I mean, the thing is, is that I feel like the more popular you get, hey, those guys are going to try to tear you up. And one thing JP said, I guess as he, his career progressed, he said, bro, it's only going to get harder.

He said these guys are going to try to tee off and try to, you know, is what it is. And you have to throw the ball more and more in this league now. Hey, when I watch the games, I'd rather watch them through it. And you're alone a lot. Yeah. You're on an island. Yeah. No, I don't mean in your personal life.

I don't mean you're a fucking loser. You're pretty cool, but you're on an island. Yeah. I mean, you are, you're on Shudders, Shudder Island. The movie's Shutter Island. Is it Shutter's or Shutter? Shutter Island. Shutter Island.

You're on Shutter Island. Yeah. Was he crazy at the end of that movie? Or was that all a dream? I think I was crazy at the movie. Was it all just? That's why I felt like, yeah, I definitely felt like I was insane by the time I walked. Another movie that made me feel crazy was the one with Bradley Cooper, Silver Linings Playbook.

Yeah. It's a great movie. Yeah. Eagles movie too. It's almost like a therapy movie. Yeah. I was going through therapy, the whole movie. I don't know about me.

When I walked out, I felt a little bit off. It was a little too real. So we've talked about the Pro Bowl, we've talked about, you know, managing the ego that gets built up with all this praise you get. How about your roots in Texas? So, you know, you, your dad was a rodeo dude, a bull rider. We talked to him on FaceTime last night. Yeah, how was that? It was like I was in a, I was teleported to East Texas.

I was just, I was, it was remarkable. Tell me about your pops and his bull riding background. Yeah. And what it's like growing up in, in East Texas. What was it, Groveton was your high school? Yeah, Groverton, Texas. And so I went there from 9th to 12th, but I was in Cold Spring, Texas for. Do you become an adult like really early when you grow up in East Texas?

Is it just like you just go out there when you're a toddler? Some people tougher than others. And you rope a steer and. you were digging ditches in a graveyard? No, I was a grave digger. In high school. So I guess you're, if you can't, they call that grave digging,

not digging ditches at a graveyardyard. Yeah, they call it. So I would sound like a total narque. I would sound like a narque if I rolled up on a, on a grave site job. Yeah. If I call it, hey, let's dig some ditches. They'd be like, no, you're digging graves.

Yeah, ditches are, don't go in graveyards, bro. What the hell? Hey, I don't know what the hell is. Hey, are you sure? You're not still off after that movie? After a shutter island? That shutters island? So your dad rode bowls and you dug holes that they put caskets in.

So, yeah, so first of all, my dad's... You look like a grave digger. You look like a grave digger. And we tell you something. That's where these traps came in, pulling that damn 50-pound anvil bar chipping that rock there at the bottom. Hey, you'll learn about dirt and what it's all... Hey, there's different levels. I did masonry when I was in high school.

And when I had my suburb job, that was it. And I remember I did a, I'd do this pool job. And I was kind of doing it to work and make some money because I wanted to put dumb accessories on my truck. I had an F-150. I wanted all the steel accents, the brush guard that I didn't need. You wanted to be cool. Go to school.

Yeah, I needed, very cool. I had the big Ford sticker on the back with the lady laying on the Ford emblem. Giant, three-foot. So I worked Mason, just to pimp out my truck. Yeah. But what I realized is the guys were probably working by the hour,

and I was working too fast. In retrospect, I was trying to work my ass off to be accepted by the guys on the job. Yeah. And I was thinking about it the other day. I think they were looking at me funny, not because I was really strong moving all the blue stone and whatnot. I think they were like, this motherfucker. Look at this guy.

Look at him go. No, look at him go. And look at, we're going to make less money on this job. We got some competition. Yeah, well, you know, working by the hour. So you worked at how long is a grave digger? I think it was for a summer or two. Just a summer or two.

Yeah, so, I mean, this wasn't, you know, I worked for the funeral home. So I made sure the funeral home was mowed, weeded it. But you didn't have to go in the funeral home. Yeah, sometimes. I don't do funeral homes. I had to sit, bro, I had to dig the, I had to dig the grave. Then I had to set it up for a funeral and make sure everything was set. So when this casket goes on the son of a bitch, it doesn't cave in.

Okay? Could you imagine that? I could not. Yeah. It sucks for everybody but the guy in the casket because he doesn't know what the fuck's going on. No, but his family does. So we'll just leave it at that. But you didn't have to go in there and deal with anything in the, like, you know, with the actual.

No, I did not involve anybody. No, I did not go in there. I had some buddies that did that. And that's just not a job I'm interested in doing at all. Yeah. either. But your dad was a bull rider. Yeah, so my dad wrote,

countries dude you've ever seen. He's about 6, 7, about 200 pounds. His hands are about this long. Just a goofy guy. I mean, he's calling. He should be a stand-up comedian, to be honest. He was pretty funny on the FaceTime last night. Unique individual.

He's been doing construction, bro, for, you know, 40, 50 years. Yeah. He can do any piece of equipment. Basically what he does for different subdivisions or whatever terrain it is, they want the runoff of the water to be a certain way. Right. So the runoff goes, you know, so it can flow out, drain the land.

So he does that. But before he got into that, bro, his thing was he was a bull rider. And so anybody is familiar with a sport of bull riding is, you know, a lot of these guys are very tiny. You know, five, five, six to, you know, maybe five, ten, five, five eleven. And he was six, six out there riding these bulls, bro. Yeah, he's a bit of an outlier. Does that make you more injury prone in the bull riding world? No, I think if you're going to get.

it you're gonna you can't stop what's coming what's that movie no country for old man no country for old man you can't stop what's coming yeah you're not going out muscle a damn two thousand pound bull whatever's meant to be's meant to be what's the worst injury he told you about uh he said he got stepped on and said it collapsed both of his lungs fluid built up and he had to spend about a week in the hospital um but he's he's seen people die get stepped on or um yeah so basically i was named after lane frost the bull rider really yeah so the movie eight seconds with Luke Perry that's kind of I thought that was a porno

least that's what my parents told me I thought that was a porn of eight seconds unless they were lying through me my whole damn life no that's not the porno that's a different title um would you ride a bowl it better not be a rank one I could ride a pussy ball I couldn't ride a what's a rank oh PBR yeah

go get on one of the big boys not a PATH's blue ribbon this is the same thing is you can try to be cool and you know do all that shit yeah but you go out there and get stepped on or something. You got to see the movie The Rider. Have you, that sounds like a porno.

It's not a porno. What is it with these bull movies and the boy? Have you seen the rider? Anybody back there seen the rider? Nobody's heard of the damn rider. No, a lot of people have heard about it. It's a good movie.

It's an indie film. You know, and your travels to the Pro Bowl, I'll have you download it. But the guy, he was dealing with TVI, traumatic brain injury, all this stuff.

He had to retire early. But those guys are a lot. like, you know, underpaid football players where they're going to miss the rush. They're going to miss the adrenaline if they're out of it. I could imagine a bigger adrenaline rush. And one thing is, I think, is kind of similar to football is that you know how you have a play and you have four or five seconds to get all you can out of that. And it's like they have eight seconds to stay on this bastard.

Yep. And they have to live in that moment. And their paycheck is eight seconds at the time fast. Yep. So. And your dad told the story about when he had to go to Vegas. Yeah. So my dad told me he had to get a job.

job from so he went out to Vegas so basically went out there to be a bartender and he thought he's just going to go apply for a job but whenever you go out there you have to do like a few years of like earning your keep until you can make the big money yeah so he was like fuck this i'm gonna be become a roofer so so he lost a little bit of money so he lost all of his money and then he had had to get a roofing job to get home to get back so he could ride more bulls so he could ride some more and that's the life of a bull rider yeah hey uh and also the the hotel story oh yeah he was bragging he was last night on the phone about what was the story that he jumped out of a four-story yeah i was like i was telling this is some bullrider shit only bull riders do shit like this and he said uh was his friend

first of all his name is billy bob hutto and he's like billy bob saying he won't jump and i was like so you jump for the four-story window i said he said lane it was a five-foot pull and it was a six-story window and he said what do you say happened to him when he when he hit the bottom of the pool he said i I did a cannonball and need myself in a fucking jaw He is a legend So what would you be doing If you didn't play football?

You know what was funny? Would you have changed jobs From the digging graves? Yeah, I think I'd have done something. You're a pretty bright guy. I think you wouldn't be able to do whatever I like to be unassuming. I like to play dumb and be, you know,

come off surprise somebody sometimes. Well, I like that. That strategy is called Under Promise Overdeliver. Yeah, the EOR, you know, just kind of move around and then, hey, hit them with something. I'll tell you what, though. One thing about you that it's savant level good is you have a movie recall, movie line recall. I've always been talented and stupid shit, you know. I don't know about that.

What good quality does that serve? Well, there's not anything wrong with being one of the best tackles on the planet. You know, they're paying these guys, you know, higher than, you know, some CEOs of, like, So you said I was good at a movie recalls. Movie recalls pretty good. Guys, name a movie that's kind of popular back here. What's your favorite line? Well, big gulp, sir.

See you later. That's iconic. I can do dumb and dumb. I like when he goes, pills. Pills are good. Pills are good. Yeah, I'm an Adam Sandler guy. What's your favorite Adam Sandler movie?

Shit. I love Happy Gilmore. I also love Billy Madison. And I love the scene where Miss Lippie, she kicks him out for coming in during recess. She goes, recess is a very important time. So just like Miss Lippy, so she can have her important time too. I totally fucked up the lines, but that was it.

No, you. I don't know if you fucked up the line, but which movie is it that he goes through the shampoo and conditioner thing? Because when I shampoo and condition my hair, that's Billy Madison. I swear to God, to this day, every time I shampoo and condition, the way I remember the order that you put on shampoo and conditioner,

it's from Billy Madison. You're talking to it. some bitch he doesn't use shampoo and condition what do you do on that beard hey you won't see some cul-de-sac son hey you look around here okay I don't know if the camera can get off that shit hey put my hat back on hold on

at what point let's take five at what point did you uh did you say I got to bick this thing I got a oh so I was in college it was my senior year um when my friend goes bro he said he comes to my house

said bro are you fucking losing your hair What's the what are you fucking talk about? Went in the mirror. I've clearly been in denial for some time. I said, bro, this shit is terrible. So I played with it my senior year and it was bad. You know, I'd comb it over and wear my hats and have my feathered out in the back kind of trying to look cool.

Then I got to the Eagles, bro, and after getting bullwashed by Dwight Franey and giving up fucking three sacks to Justin Houston, I just shave that shit off and been a different man's sense. I think when you go through a rough time, you do major. You need major. I do this a lot.

Like whenever I want to go get a haircut or, you know, shave my beard or I'm going through something. So that's always, you know, like I don't know what that is. What is that? I don't know. You think that that's going to fix whatever problem. Is it a Darwinism survival technique? I don't know what it is, but I think it's one of those things where you're like, oh, everything's going to change me. I'll be able to block Dwight Franey if I just shave my head.

If I can just look tougher, have a tougher exterior. Maybe I'll get tougher on the inside, huh? And anchor down on the bullwrest. But it is. It's one of those things where people in denial. And sometimes I think it does take one friend to tell you that something's wrong with your appearance. And that's the best friend you can have that'll actually tell you, hey, man, you don't trim your nose hairs, do you? And then you're like, fuck, my nose hairs.

It looks like a joke in the nose hairs. I need to get one of those things. I don't know what that is. A little Remington. Seems like, hey, upper 20s, 30s, that shit just starts sprouting out, huh? Yeah, dude. What's going on with that? I don't know.

But it takes a friend to tell you, hey. That does. You know, you should go get your teeth whitened or, you know. You should, you should shave your, but that's not a great haircut, man. You know, like, that's what true friends do. They're honest with you. Honest. That's one thing about the locker room.

So we got some, hey, some honest some bitches. We'll tell a bit of that. Which will make you almost overly self-aware. Overly self-conscious on top of being self, you know, self-conscious. Yeah. Because you only are what your coaches tell you are. Yeah. Yeah.

If you're a piece of shit, can't block nobody that week. Hey, that's what you are. That's how you feel about your life. That's who you are in your ain't. thing about, that's the thing about fans that I don't think they get is, fans don't understand that. Money, it races everything.

It does not. Hell no. It amplifies it. Sometimes. Now, listen, there's some things that I'm immune to for making a lot of money that I, that regular people don't have to deal with. There's no doubt about it.

I can do things off the field that, um, can create opportunities for me, etc. But even people with the, with the, the best jobs in the world are miserable sometimes. Yeah. Money can't buy happiness.

Well, it's all an illusion. It's all about, okay, once you get your money, okay, I'm supposed to feel this certain way. Oh, okay. And that's almost the biggest disappointment. And that's something you don't think about. All you think about is getting to that point. You don't think about what's going to happen, you know?

Well, it's one of the, the, the add-on is the disappointment of realizing when you reach success, you don't feel any fucking different. Yeah. In fact, you feel disappointed in the fact that you don't feel different. And it just exacerbates everything. Yeah. That's what, you know, but a thing that I don't think fans. get is that you know what the fuck were we talking about so checking notes i don't have notes on this

we are off the notes we're off notes yeah i just i oh yeah here's what it is the fans well the fans thank you their perception their perception what their perception of you as a football player yeah you can't tell me that if you go play a terrible game on the field they don't count that about against your character when they meet you on the street like you can say that football and who you are as a person are separate. But as far as occupations go in this country, being a professional athlete or any entertainer, because that's what we do. We're entertaining. We're in the entertainment. Our failures and successes are in front of millions of people. And the stakes are higher, so we get paid more. That's the way it works. So it's not a complaint, but the reality is that

if I have a terrible season, I'm a joke. And then people, it's not like the joke stops when I walk off the field. The rest of your life, people look at you. And we all know players that I don't want to call people out, but that had like terrible finishes to their career or were, you know, had injury issues or made an embarrassing play. Like you think that the first thing, and Bill Buckner who just passed away a year ago, you remember him, Red Sox guy, balled through his legs. You don't think that followed him the rest of his life. You don't think that the Norwood from the bills, you don't think that enters into every interaction he has for the rest of his life. Yeah. That's the risk of playing sports.

Yeah. Forget the physical stuff. That shit, you sign up for it. You know, nowadays we're learning more about how football weighs on your body and this, that and the third. But the failures, it doesn't stop when you walk off the field. People judge you that way the rest of your life. It's like Ray Finkel for fucking.

It's who it is. Yeah, it's what it is. And that's fucking, sometimes it is what it is. Yeah, it does follow you the rest of your life. Yeah. I have some shit's going to follow me the rest of my life. Hey, is what it is. Hey, you just got to keep going on.

You know what I'm saying? I think the only thing that's going to be following you the rest of your life or you're adoring fans, Lane. Adoring fans? Yes, the ones in New England. So, so, so what's on that topic, what's a game or a play you'd like to have back? What's the most embarrassing player game of your career? Probably, yeah, it's probably my third game for playing against Kansas City. And, you know, I really don't know a whole lot of guys in league, but I remember going out pre-game warm-ups and there's a dude number 50 on.

name's Justin Houston. I go, look at this son of a bitch. It's the son of bitch doing chin-ups for the game. And what fuck's going on? What's going on with these triceps? His triceps were about fucking three times the size of mine. Guy comes out there and just fucking sweating. His eyes are fucking this big.

And I was doing well the whole first half. I got Mike Vick back there. You know, I'm fucking pipping. Yeah, I mean, you get beat with a pressure. I'm blocking, yeah, I'm blocking her Mike Vick. This somebody can scramble out, you know, get 20 yards. That's who he is. and then like the last

it was a fourth quarter bro fucking three sacks in a row it was I was trying to jump what happened was I was vertical setting and he was coming in and bullrushing me and so inside shoulder and so I was trying to jump setting the sacks I gave up was jump sets

and so I went out there overaggressive trying to get on him fast he just swiped the fuck out of me three times bro same shit yeah went out there and yeah got back in locker room before I even take off my pants I got fucking Lesbow on. I love you, Les, but.

Les is actually pretty cool. He won't even say something. But Les just says a statement. So you got beat with three sacks today. Yeah, it's not a question. It's a, yeah. How do you feel? No, no, that's a question.

Yeah. He'll be like, Justin's pretty good at football. Yeah, I'll say, yeah, you see the fuck of those three sacks he got on me? He fucking destroyed me. Now, we like Les. Les is funny as fuck.

But you know, Les will come in hot with. He will come in with a statement. With a statement. And you're like, Yo, Les, I don't know what you. I don't know what to say to you.

What's the Philly media like? Before I ask you the tail end of the flip side of the worst game ever. It is always entertaining, bro. You do not know what the hell you're going to get asked. It's funny though. Our locker room is pretty narrow. It's a long narrow locker room.

And just you come in after practice and the whole son of the bitch is full. Mm-hmm. They're all just sitting there waiting for you. Yeah, but that's as far as similarities between Texas and Philly as far as football. Yeah. It's a religion. Same type of thing.

Same type of thing. It's Catholics and Christians. It's just a different branch of the faith. Yes. Has there been an instance where a reporter really pissed you off by doing something out of line? What are the rules of engagement with reporters? Shit. I think you're still being written.

I don't think there is a whole lot of, hey. It's just the Wild West, bro. People want some damn answers. The people need their answers. But what's your pet peeve? Like, you know, for me, there's certain things that I'll always, you see me, I treat everybody respect, reporters, this, that, and third. But there's certain things that I do not take kindly to.

Yeah, my only pet peeve is if I'm bare ass there in the locker room and I'm trying to get dressed. Don't have a microphone by my ass while I'm trying to get dressed and I'm trying to talk to you. Maybe they're trying to hear what's going on down the movie. Well, I guess I've been talking out my ass sometimes, so they put the microphone there sometimes. Well, so I always get on this soapbox about we are like the only. industry where it's a okay to just camp out in our dressing room. Yep. And look at our dicks to be like, you know, that's not that people are looking at your

dicks, but I'm just saying that it's kind of unfair to mandate that I have to walk around naked around a bunch of people that want answers from me. I know there's not a lot of other ways to do open locker room. Well, you know, the hardest parts after a game because there's shit everywhere. There's fucking, you know, helmets, there's equipment. There's towels everywhere. You're trying to get dressed. And it's just.

It's tight, too. After games, everything's tight. You get a, what, a 10-minute window for the media can come in, and, hey, it is what it is. How do they fix it? Hey. Because I don't like it, I don't like it either. Hey, everybody dressed, everybody good.

Yeah, well, that's going to take a while because everybody needs to get on the bus, too, and we've got to get going. But even, like, practice. It's tough. I'm not demonizing the media for this because they've been given a slot that they can talk to players. Yeah. I just think it's kind of fucked up that we can all be with our units out. you know trying to get dressed and as much as we respect everybody's privacy rightfully so in society

yeah we're just pieces of meat that uh you know and then my brother got got so my brother got uh in the background of somebody's IG live that you know with his meat out this year and and uh everybody thinks it's a it's a funny thing it's like it's not it's actually not to be naked in front of millions of people neck and afraid and not even on the damn discovery channel so bad that to me, you know, you get this deadspin site that, you know, the most self-righteous fucking site in the world,

then posts an article with a link to the IG Live, like, hey, and if you want to see his dick, here it is. It's just a hyperlink away. You just got to click on our... That's all you got to do. That's all you got to do. But we're really good people here. Let's fucking laugh. Hey, hey, hey, but if you want to, a little chuckle, hey, come on.

So I think, uh, I think the piece of meat thing is, is, is a real phenomenon. A lot of people don't think about it's just, you know, in any other workplace that would be kind of unacceptable. So the flip side to your worst game, what was the game that you felt like invincible? You played a lot of good rushers. Man, there was one time in college. I got here. Okay, funny a story.

Stu's name was, I think his name was Jake Latimer, like Latimer from the brother. Long hair, we're playing Iowa State. Guy has hair down to his shoulders, all silver teeth. He goes over there. we have a RPO where a man on the back side. Yeah. And he just kind of can't get away from me. Yeah.

Upercuts me in the balls, bro. Hard as fuck. Did he? Hard. Next play, I told him I was going to fucking kill him. Didn't even go against him, but we had a deuce block. And I fucking threw the three technique, bro, over this out of the damn frame. He went up to the linebacker, just, ah!

So you're like a video game boss. That was the funest play in my career. So he thought that you were like a video game boss that if you got hitting the balls, you were going to die. But it actually was like a trigger point for you. It was trigger point therapy. You got stronger. You don't hit Lane Johnson in the sack because he'll turn into, it's like he's on PCP

when you hit him in the balls. I turned into Gordon off a dodge ball, the old man with the glasses when he got, when he got angry, that's who I turned into. You see the movie recall is terrific. These guys are getting ready for the Super Bowl now. And that was a game that you played very well, by the way. I thought you might say that one, but I think you're done. bowling. What are these guys getting ready to do here? I mean, obviously we know what it's like on

the field, but the next two weeks is like worse than a bowl game. Yes. Well, I thought they did a pretty good job. Well, it's just you have obligations there. So obviously you have your practice, you know, you had a new spot. You have lots of family there wanting to see you. So, but you still have to maintain your practice schedule and kind of the consistency of that. So the hardest part is, is, you know, we always say eliminate distractions was just trying to maintain as close to a schedule as you could as back home far as not staying out too late, seeing the family, just trying to keep it normal.

But yes, it is. You can have lots of media. At the same time, it's fun. It's a Super Bowl. You're ready for it. Now, this is going to be one of the more exciting ones, I think, in a long time. As far as the star power, the speed, the defenses,

it's going to be a lot of fun. What do you think about these, if you're an offensive lineman, who's the scariest dude playing in the game up front? D. Ford's pretty good, talented. Frank Clark, I thought, was extremely underrated. We talked about yesterday in Seattle. So Frank's a beast. Bosa's come on the scene right away.

Bosa's a beast. And Bosa's pretty similar to his brother, man. He's so damn good with his hands. He never let somebody get a hold of his hands. And whenever a guy turns and not squared a line of scrimmage, it's a good way of getting those hips around. Armstead, very good Buckner. So yeah, they're just...

Chris Jones. Chris Jones had like 15 sacks last year. He'd be my answer and didn't go to the Pro Bowl, which goes to show that it doesn't fucking matter. But congrats. Yeah, that guy's a beast. I think he is... Similar to Fletch, you know.

Yeah, I mean, he's been dominant like Fletch. Yeah, he doesn't look great in pads. I mean, he looks kind of sloppy. It's pretty damn big to me. Well, I'm just saying he doesn't He kind of, when he came on the scene I was like, who's this guy? Unassuming, a little bit?

A little bit unassuming, but a big man And somebody that moves really well He's got the jab step, he's got the swipe And then he can just run you over. Yeah. How do you see that game playing out? Well, people don't know. George Kittle's dad, Bruce was my coach in college

So we'd like see Kittle get one. Yeah, and you knew Kittle from way back then. since his dad was your coach. Yeah, so, yeah, whenever he's in high school there, Norman, they was playing receiver. Did you tell he was going to be a psycho? Who? George?

He wasn't around that much. He was just, like he is now, he's always happy, bro. I've never seen him have a bad day. That's how Bruce was, too. Yeah. So much, I never heard bad news in his life. Right. Where were we?

All right, okay. Oh, yeah, yeah, and they were my best friends plays for Kansas City, James Winchester, Long Snapper. Oh, I didn't know that. So, man, I wish both of them could win. I think it's going to go down to the defense because their offenses are just. You know, what did Jimmy throw?

Eight passes other day. He's got to throw more than that probably. And the running back was with us. Yeah. Rahim. Yep. Yeah. Out there killing.

Here's the thing about that though. And people point out that, hey, holy shit. Chip Kelly couldn't get anything out of him and cut him. Well, so did six other teams. I mean, that just goes to show how good Shanahan is at designing these plays. And some of the holes he was running through the other day were. Yeah. That's not taking anything away from this kid.

I couldn't get cut three times. and get off, get back up. I mean, thinking about some guys and we both had a good where, you know, we were draft picks and we both got big contracts, second contracts and whatnot, you know, we've never had to scrap

the way some of these guys do that, I mean, a lot of guys, people don't realize live in holiday ends. Like, it's not like every football player is, no, you're prototypical, you know, any given Sunday character. No, and ballers, I think, you know, they have that kind of representation,

misconception of what a football player is. No, a lot of it's, people were out there hungry bro people were you know staying in local hotels and little apartments right by the stadium these guys are hungry bro they're getting cut one week they're getting picked up on a practice squad i had this preconceived notion that every pro football player was rich and and i'm we're all blessed i mean no doubt about it but the guys that don't that make league minimum there's not a lot of long-term job security so even if you pull one year's paycheck down or a practice squad you still got to worry about whatever you do the rest of your life it's not like football

is something that you can show on your resume. End all be all. Yeah. It's not an end all be all. And so a guy like Mosert who's been on his seventh team, think about all the ego hits that it took to get to where he is. So I really tip my cat to him. That's how it kind of James Harrison was too. Well, it was like five teams and then the guy, you know, does what he does. Cam Wake was in the CFO. Cam Wake, hey, that guy. Yeah, we had the scrimmaged gym a couple years ago, remember? Yeah, I remember that. It was very hot.

Yeah, well, first of all, it was him and Sue. I was going. This ain't the most impressive looking fucking side ever. Yeah, studs. He's also a guy that looks like he can give you 30 chin-ups on command, Cameron Wake. No doubt about it. No question. I'm not sure I can do five pull-ups. Maybe that's my problem. You talk about the Super Bowl that year.

What do you remember about that Super Bowl and being in Minneapolis and the mall of America? Yeah, it was first of all, it was cold as shit outside. So cold. So no interaction outside. I think it all went by pretty fast. It was all kind of a blur, even that, you know, the whole playoff thing. just because I feel like we didn't put any pressure on ourselves because, you know, as you know, we weren't expected to do shit.

And so it was kind of, well, if we can do this, man, we're going to be heroes. You know, we're going to do good here if we can win this game, man. Yeah, everybody's already counting us out. So what do you remember about the origin of the dog mask? Because it was you. Yeah, but we were sitting there. I think we're talking about all the, you know, Peter King, Peter King said this. And we had all the articles posted kind of all over the building, just everywhere.

in the bathrooms every every stall has hey this is what you're expected to do and uh was which was good our ass kick so and then uh you said hey man since we're underdogs we should get some underdog mask and it looked it sounded like the dumbest idea was it sounded fucking stupid but then it ended up on the end side of our super i'm stupid enough to go buy something like that no but you were on the purchase so we were sitting on the trainer room table i remember bringing it up and you loved it. And I said, well, I'm kind of, I'm kind of slammed right now. I can't really, I don't think I can get this order in.

Do you think you can handle this? And you were like, yep, we'll get this thing ordered. Somehow you found, initially, I don't think it was supposed to be a bulldog. Or I don't think it was supposed to be a German Shepherd. I think we were looking for some other breed. Yeah, but, I mean, are you trying to get a Doxon mask and put it on? Are you trying to put a Yorkie? No, I don't want the one that a Boat had on.

Bo had that weak-ass-looking dog. Bo had the never-ending story dog fucking face on. Aslam? Yeah. Was that his name? What was his name? Yeah, Aslam.

Do you remember any lines from that movie? No, I just know the main. The never-ending story. Yeah, that's good. That's good. You got a great voice. But I just remember the first game we put those masks on, I was kind of like,

fuck, okay, let's do it. But, you know, we could turn into a meme, like, real quick. This was the year that was crying Jordan. Risk reward. I was ready to be crying Jordan before. You have? Oh, yeah. How'd they get you? So when you get suspended a couple times, hey, you'll find yourself on plenty of damn memes, huh? I promise you. How did your crying Jordan face look? Fuck, it was everywhere, son. It was me walking off the field, me sitting on the bench, me taking a piss, just fucking cry face. They have pictures you taking a piss? No, I was trying to be funny. I was

over trying. Um, so, so that year was special. obviously the underdog thing, that whole thing. We had the parade. The parade. What do you remember about the parade? I just remember Kelsey. I was just chasing Kelsey to hold them. We were on one bus to another slapping people's hands.

I just remember looking everywhere and it was like, like I was in Call of Duty. There's just people everywhere. There's people in fucking trees. There's people in buildings. There's people coming out of the windows. There's people coming out of the damn sewers. There's people everywhere. And everybody had to do it.

But unlike Call of Duty, they like you. They like you. They want to be your friend. They're not trying to kill you. They want to be your friend. It's the opposite. Call a friendship. Call a friendship.

And by the end of the day, how about when we were standing behind the podium? And they were like, y'all want to talk? Yeah, my eyes were fucking going cross out. I was so blurred. We were so fucking wrecked. And it's one of those things that's like, this is a terrible idea, but I also don't know when we'll ever be able to do this again. So we might as well.

And we didn't talk about a plan. We didn't. We were just trying to. just really trying to represent Stone Cold Steve Austin to the best of our abilities. We tried. We tried. And people loved it.

Yeah, people enjoyed it. If I had to do it all over again, if I knew I was going to speak, I may have come up with something a little bit longer, maybe. No, it was short and sweet, and that was great.

You left Kelsey to do the hard work. But, you know, that parade ends, and, you know, that year was special. There was magic that year. I mean,

I just felt like we talked about it. It felt like every game we were going to go in and win. And there wasn't a question. There wasn't a fake, you know, bravado. Didn't have to do a whole lot of Rar. I was like, we got the talent to kick ass. We had the right people. We had the right people.

We had the hunger. And you could sense that shit in OTAs. You could see it. You're like, well, you know, I've been around some teams. I've seen some good football teams. This is, yeah. So the hardest part is 18 trying to replicate it. And there's a fine line when you win a Super Bowl between ignoring the elephant in the room

and then like leaning into it too much, like talking about, hey, we're not going to, you know, we're not going to fall in this trap. But like you talk about it all day and that's all you're thinking about is. That's all you talk about. Don't fall in the trap. Don't follow the trap. So how do you do it?

If you're a coach after a Super Bowl, how do you do it? I don't know so. We fell in that damn trap and we were, had to turn so fast, turn that damn cream into butter. You know what I'm saying? Two mice fell in a bucket of cream, huh? That's the old adage that so many people use. Catch me if you can.

That's where it came from. Okay, catch me if you can. Yeah. So we were drowned at first. Yeah, we resurrected. Yeah, it was, you know, it was tough. And I think that's where I found a newfound appreciation for, I can't name their names, but for that team,

just because they're expected to do that year and year out. And, yeah, you do it as a new change of perception. It is a new focus because you could feel when the teams that you played, they were trying to tear your ass up. Oh, yeah. The Super Bowl champs, let's make a statement. And that was true. And then that carries into even, you know,

this year I felt like this past year you guys still had a target on your back but you had a ton of injuries yeah it was man yeah just injuries um you know malik I think it was the first game deshaun um and malik I think was going to have a prime for a big year man him and fletcher in the middle and he's a great dude too great teammate um and really that's the way it's been but you know what was so impressive about this year is that um you know one guy really like a lot is as greg ward just because he was scout team a lot but just the guy that really comes in and doesn't you never He's always positive, and then when he got his chance to do good, he goes up there in balls. And so just having that and then having those young guys, the hungry guys coming in and doing what they do and being able to compete.

That was tough. And the way it ended, but I was impressed with how Carson, you know, as you know, he deals with. He deals a lot of bullshit. He's walking around dog shit all the time. He has to do, he has to be careful not to step in any of it. Right. So I think he did a great job and really moving forward, fix a few things and we'll be good. Listen, you look at the NFC, I thought it was supposed to be so deep and whatnot.

And in actuality, I looked at it. And if you guys stay healthy, I think you're the second best team in the NFC, when all things are said and done. So, I mean, that's the way it is. Every team has injuries, but there's a lot to look forward to if you're an Eagles fan, and there was a lot to say that this team would have been very good. There's two players or there's a couple of moments I remember this year that kind of embodied the team, in my opinion.

One was Greg Ward's coming out. You mentioned him. He was the prototypical guy who stepped up out of this depth role and people hadn't heard of him. But everybody on our team knew who he was. We all respected him, at least in this, even before this year. And then the other was McCown running around with a torn hamstring, trying to do everything he can.

Yeah, what do he mean? He was pretty similar to you in the fact that he would have a lot of wisdom. He had a good insight on people and he knew how to motivate and get people, I guess, get the team kind of coordinated. and doing it without rubbing anybody the wrong way. He just always had a good energy. Because, you know, here he is out there 40 years old. You used to see the way he practices.

It is fucking fun to watch. It is funny to watch energy all day. And then just, you know, his insight. Yeah. He's played, what, 18 years. You don't stick around 18 years without, you know, being good. Right. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

He was a lot of fun to be around. There was a lot to be proud of this year, even. And I thought in the beginning of the year, if I'm being honest, there was a point where I was like, well, this team, Philly's going to always resent this team because they don't seem like they have it. There were moments where you weren't sure

if the team had it. And by the end of the year, I think it flipped from everybody being disappointed to everybody being super fucking proud of that team because the way you guys rallied. And it's something I think comes from Doug. It comes from a whole bunch of factors where you guys, when your backs are against the wall,

that's when you get the best. So how do you next year not wait till the best? back is against the wall. You don't fall on that trap. You don't set yourself. You got to go in there with no expectations. And some, you know, one one thing I've done since I've been in league is every now then, man, hey, you got to talk to a sports psychologist. You got to get, how do I attack this game? How can I get a reset button? And one thing he kind of told me was you got to be Mike Myers from Halloween. So you got to be. Go on. Does Mike Myers ever show any emotion? No. No. He also has a mask on, so it's not fair. Yes. So, right, yeah. Is Mike Myers always coming to kill? Yeah.

Does Mike Myers get stabbed and you think he's dead? And does Mike Myers keep coming back? Yeah, that's what Mike Myers does. So you got to be like him. Yeah, I think that works in sports psychology. It doesn't work so much. I don't think you hear a lot of Mike Myers references. Well, you heard it now.

I like it. I might try to be more like Mike Myers on this pod. Yeah. No emotion. Zero. For those of you listen, we were just staring at the camera. Before I let you go, I wanted to hit you with a, with a lightning round.

Okay. Some quick hitters. All right. If you could be any animal, what would you be? Probably a jaguar after I saw one of those summits just take a Cayman out of the water. After he dove in the water and in the river and dragged that camels up by his neck,

that was pretty impressive. That's all you got. Yeah. Just that's all it took. That's all it took. Okay, a Jaguar. That's a jet, not a Jaguar. A Jaguar.

A Jaguar. Oh, man. How about Apocalyptic, Jaguarpaw? What? Jaguar Paw from Apocalyptic. Do you remember the movie, Apocalyptic? No. You've seen a lot of movies you haven't seen Apocalypse.

I haven't seen it. That's shameful. I apologize. How about the stamina on those fucking guys in Apocalyptic? You're not going to realize this, but the viewers and listeners, these guys ran in full sprint for like three days straight. It was unbelievable. They were like Mike Myers.

If you could be in any movie, sequel and play a lead, what movie would it be? Ooh. Damn it. Yeah. Should have asked me this pre because I don't have a damn good answer. Okay, what's your W.W.E. wrestling name and what's your persona? Because this is a distinct possibility for you after football.

It's called me Big Dave Johnson. Big Dave Johnson? So what's your get-up look like? Are you in one of those old school, like? I'm not trying to look like, you know, something off of he-haul, but I'm trying to look. I'm trying to represent who I am. Hey, I am country. I'm not trying to duplicate anybody. I'm not trying to be somebody.

I'm not. Is it going to be camo in your get-up? You know, I'm not, I'm pretty country, but I don't come off. Do I come off as that country? No, no, no, no. Your voice sounds like you might have... Might have grew up next to Bobby Boucher. Like you might be able to sleep in a dead animal to stay warm.

Like they're revving it? Yeah. I do the Revenant sequel That'd be pretty awesome Just to suffer for a few months Revenant sequel would be good So yeah I'm not gonna say you have to have any

Have any cam Is the sooner mascot a cheater? Technically a damn Sooner is yeah Explain to the people what it is So I guess in the it was 1800s Yeah excuse me wrong They had the Oklahoma land run

Where people were pretty much at a starting point And when they fire the gun you can go out and go claim your land. Well, the Sooners were the guys that were already out there in the land, claiming their steak. Yeah. Where they wanted to go before the gun was ever shot. So that's kind of cheaters.

Yeah. Okay. Any progress on a sequel? Well, you already gave me one. How about a desert island? You can only bring one object. What's it going to be? Well, Chris, it's probably going to be some water, man.

You know? That's going to work well for me because of the water boys. Yeah. I'm on the desert of the island. There's no water. Yeah. I need fucking water to survive. How about one person? One person? Yeah. Outside of your family. Outside of, I could, you could be one, because we don't ever really fight too much.

You have a good way of, you have good wisdom, years over me and experience. Getting my point across without being a dead. Yeah, you just say superior wisdom. Who else is going to go? Probably my psychologist. That's where I could go. be good probably need him every few days to regroup um okay okay and and if there was one sport you could play professionally if not uh if not in the NFL what would it basketball all day bro there is nothing better than crossing a son bitch up and taking that summitch to the hole

and dunking on a son of a bitch and going down that court and beating your chest now i did it on about on about five foot six white dudes so i could imagine what to be like to dunk on you know Kevin Duran or something. Yeah, could you imagine? No, I could you imagine? Could you imagine, first of all, having that hang time in there? I could not imagine. I'm nervous to, you know...

What's impressive is when you go to the NBA game? Jump down out of a bed of a pickup truck. I'm nervous if my back's going to give out. If I, at this point, hey, listen, I went the second half of my career and played some really good football at times, but I probably couldn't jump to save my life. I was afraid to jump vertically because I was afraid of pop in my Achilles. As a professional athlete.

Yeah. I mean, so. There's days, there's days when that's happened. How about a country you really want to visit? A country? Hmm. Anywhere in the world. Where would I want to go?

Probably New Zealand. What would you do there? I don't know. I really like the order of the reins and like the, what do you call it, geography or topography? Which one makes me sound more intelligent? Both? Okay. I like the topography of that place.

There's just. Well, yeah, the topography would be correct there, I believe. So I just, they have read, It's just interesting people there. Do you think you could do naked and afraid? I keep asking. We always have discussion. I would love to do it just so I could see two people suffer.

That would be the funniest shit of all time. First thing I'm doing is getting in some damn mud. You're not about to fucking eat me up. Like in Predator? Yeah. When he gets covered in mud so he could hide from Predator. Yeah. Another movie.

I'm hiding from mosquitoes. So do you remember when Mike Bennett said that Mike Bennett usually tell me, we need to be on naked and afraid, bro. It'd be lame. Yeah. I want you and Michael Bennett. to be on naked and the Friday. What do you think would happen?

It'd be the funniest shit of all time. And I think y'all would become so hungry and so delusional that y'all's conversations would just be amplified. And I would like to get that on camera. I've said this before. I would kill Mike Bennett so fast for food because by the third day,

I would be so fucking irritated with him. I have to call you an Uber to the airport. Okay. So what's your speed going to be in the Pro Bowl? What's my speed? Yeah. Last year, son, it was damn right and embarrassing. So, but what's the conversation around that at this point?

Hey, bro, you good? Are you good? You're going to go hard? Now, yeah, bro, it'll be cool. And then every now and then they'll fucking go hard. We're like, hey, we had an agreement. Who's the tempo violator? Who are you most worried about tempo violating in the Proble?

Probably one, probably Watt, if he's going. That guy just goes hard every play, whatever. Yeah. Okay, J.J. Watt it is. Or T.J. Watt. I'm going to make this an Uber, X. Hey, and if Carrigan was there, he'd be going the hardest. Oh, Kerrigan would.

Hey, no question. What's blocking Kerrigan like? Fuck. It's like a fucking honey badger, bro. It's like Groundhog Day. Yeah, he just won't fucking. Same rush, same rush, same. And he won't go away, and if you fuck around, he's going to groundhog you.

Because he does have superior inside power when he gets you. He likes to catch you right under this armpit, son, and do levitation on you. A little levitation. He's levitated me before for some sags. So, last question. before I let you go for Eagles fans. And thank you for joining us, Lane Johnson. It turned out to be pretty good.

Yeah, thank you. I was surprised. Like, we have a shitty operation here. We did this with, no, they asked me before I sat down and like, do you need any notes? You're good? Like, I'm like, no, I know this guy pretty good. We're just having a conversation.

Jeffrey's on the way on Toyota Highlander. Well, hey, I got to wear these slippers. I didn't bring any shoes. He's going to be just disgusted with the way it smells in the, I'm going to get downrated because of your foot odor. Well, hey, man, if you have a size, if you have some extra shoes around here. I don't have any size 16. My last question for people who are out there watching who are Eagles fans,

and Lane was gracious enough to join us. He even addressed Pat's Nation directly, sort of. But for Eagles fans, give me one or two next up type guys, next in line type guys for the birds who are going to break out next year. I think Miles Sanders is just going to become. Just more of a freakazoid than what he is. I think, you know, as far as Deshawn's demeanor, I think Deshaun really must get healthy

and just go out there and do what he started. And I think you could see it. So, I mean, he's been around the block. He's not a newcomer, but... Yeah, and he looks healthy now. Yeah. Good for him. Okay.

Well, that was Lane Johnson. Now three-time pro bowler, all pro. One of the best tackles I ever played against. Tremendous dude. Tremendous dude. And thanks for joining us on Green. Greenlight Lane. Will you come back and see us? Yeah, hey, you gave me a damn invitation. Come back to God's country? Hey, it is God's country. I was, I'm still impressed. I'm impressed.

I'm impressed here in Charlottesville. You heard it here. Lane Johnson. He's huge. He's taken up the entire chair. The frame. I mean, since Kyle Long was here, I haven't seen anybody fill the frame out like this. I'm filling it out like Kyle Long. No, Kyle Long's a big son, son, bitch. So it's so much a bit like a full-blown Gerber baby at 340? He's built like a Gerber baby. proportionate very proportionate very just big what's Brandon Brooks built like

I can't say it bro we'll get fucking pissed I used to say you built like Barney well you just did say it yeah hey you know what he tells me now but once you go mind

your fucking baldheaded business when you said it to me the first time yeah lost my mind funny shit I've ever heard well Jeffrey's arrived so go get your Uber buddy thanks for joining us

thanks for having me guys okay okay yes coach Thank you.