Green Light with Chris Long - Ice Cube! Music & Film Career, Big 3 Basketball & Raiders. Joe Buck! ESPN, Tom Brady to Fox & PGA Championship.

Episode Date: May 24, 2022

(2:19) - Hello, Layup Line, Tipping Protocols for Delivery Drivers and 5’2 or 7’7? (31:06) - Ice Cube Talks Big 3 Basketball League, Rap and Film Career, Making of Boyz in the Hood, Impact of ‘It Was a Good Day’ and Love for the Las Vegas Raiders. (1:17:23) - Would You Rather Fight a Chicken Each Time You Enter Your Car or An Orangutan With a Sword Once A Year? (1:33:20) - Joe Buck on Joining ESPN, Streaming the PGA Championship, Monday Night Football, Tom Brady’s Move to the Booth and What Joe Will Do During the World Series. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Tennessee, y'all, too. 1-800-889-9-9-7-89. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. Big show for you folks today. Ice Cube talks his big three basketball league, his rap and film career, and goes in-depth on the song, it was a good day.

Towards the end, Joe Buck comes on to have a good bit of fun. He talks joining ESPN, Monday night football this fall, and Tom Brady's announced to move to the booth. In between those two guests, Chris and Dr. Fax are going to answer a couple questions, like what are the tipping protocols for delivery drivers? Would you rather be 5-2 or 7-7?

And would you rather fight a chicken each time you enter your car or an orangutan with a sword once a year? Y'all enjoy this as a fun one. Have a splendid day. Oh, boy. Kind of a little gangster rap, a little baseball today. A little golf. Golf and gangster rap, dude.

It's a nice... Like peanut butter and jelly. Nice well-rounded show. It's exactly what this is. Dr. Fax, myself, and we have Ice Cube and Joe Bull. Buck. Cube, right? The Cube, as we got to call him, which was really cool.

We just interviewed Ice Cube a little bit ago, and that was amazing. We've got Joe Buck coming up later in the show, so I don't know. I think this one's fun. First, I'm going to say hello to Macon. I'm going to say hello to Macon. Hi, Macon, wherever you are. I thought it was a secret beach in South Africa that was non-disclosable. This guy is really fucking, when I asked my co-host, where are you going on vacation?

and he really wouldn't tell me because he's worried fans are going to be at his door. He's pulling the Aaron Rogers. I just realized it. He's not showing up. This is our OTAs. He's not showing up to OTAs. This is basically OTAs, dude.

He's constantly harassed by paparazzi. He is, man. The guy's famous and I get it. But when I find out what beach it is, as a matter of fact, I'll text him. Hey man, what beach are you really at? No reason. He knows.

What beach are you really at? I'll let you guys know. I want Macon to I want Macon to be a part of every show So hello to Macon and then Hello to Fort Lauderdale Hello to Fort Lauderdale Why are we saying hello to Fort Lauderdale?

Because Dr. Fax will be in Fort Lauderdale on June 17th And I will be in the corner With my friend Kendall Volker Who is in the pillow fighting championship And she's trying to win a title She said she needed some familiar faces in her corner hit me up and ask me if I would be a part of it.

So this is incredible that we do know of somebody who went to school with us. Yes. That's currently making money beating up other chicks with pillows. Yes. And that is cool, man. Like what a sport that is. I mean, like it was right there under our noses this entire time.

Everybody's done a pillow fight. And if they load up these pillows a little bit heavier, I guess, two pounds of pillow. Two pounds of pillow. Which doesn't sound like much, but, you know, like a hockey puck's only a couple ounces, as we know. It doesn't even hurt to get hit by. The pillow is way more painful. And these people are just fucking each other up. They're doing like jujitsu, dodging each other, hitting each other with the pillows.

So, Nate, I'm psyched for you, bro. I'm kind of excited for it, too. Hopefully, we're going to go down there. She's going to get this win. So are you like a promoter technically? Or try to, you know, you know me. Like Don King. You're like the Don King.

You got to dabble. You got to dabble and try to wear all the coats that you can wear because if this ends up being a big thing, hey, we're going to run this. This is a ground floor thing for you. Hey, ground floor. You never know.

The ceiling is very far away. So we're going to try to get to it. They said they're hitting these motherfuckers with the torque of a golf club. I don't know how John Brinkas figured that out. This is incredible, bro. Like, I want to see somebody get hit in the face on, John Briggies his show, which I don't know if it's canceled or not.

Probably stings like shit to get hit in the face. Is that, yeah, it's done for? Yeah, you know he went to UVA, right? I know, he's a Wahoo. Yeah. But they need to, they need to start that show back up just to do a pillow fight episode. June what? You're going to be in Fort Lauderdale?

17th. June 17th. I think that's a good, that's a good content thing. We could make a parody one. We should do, we should have an autograph signing at one of the malls there and just don't tell the mall and have you set up and all our green light faithful come and like get autographs from you. Dr. Fax Table Bo.

What do you think, bro? I'll do that for content. Just set you up outside the Annie Ann. No one, no one will, right? No one, no one, no one will come. No, it's like you always, just like you always say, oh yeah, no one's going to, they're going to be like Chris who, Chris Long who? Yeah, they would definitely be like, who is this guy.

In Vegas, we were almost playing a game where we got people to come up to you and, you know what I mean? Because you just have a walk about you, an aura, you know? That doesn't mean people They just people do that in general I saw a dude at the NASCAR race in Richmond Asked Nate for his autograph Yeah dude just off

Just assumed he was famous He just assumed though You just assumed bro That's so crazy Can we set you up at the mall For Lauderdale That is so crazy Just assuming people are famous

But you gotta get escorted out by security Because it's got to make the news Because that's how it's marketing bro You know how that works I do know how it works So I don't know if Nate Does know how marketing works based off of his grubhub

situation. So yeah, here's, thank you for that. That was a dynamite segue, Matt. Terrible segue. No, that was a good segue. It was a good segue. So the other day, I am looking at my timeline and Dr. Fax is tweeting, for usual. And he's tweeting

a picture of some chick-fil-A sitting on top of a bed of not lettuce, but like, hedges. Hedges. Yeah, in the packaging. So the chick-fil-A is in its mode of transportation. It's delivered.

Yeah, why are you phrasing it like that? Do you think that's acceptable? Hold on. I'll tell you. Like, you think that's acceptable? Like, seriously? You think that's acceptable? You seem upset about the,

because, you know, can I paint the picture? Because people at home don't know how wrong you are. But painted the right, what, how wrong I am?

Yeah, just hold on a second. So Nate is lamenting the fact that the chicken is on top of the bushes. And, you know, like probably a couple doors away from him. A couple doors? No, no, no, no. I live on the third floor. Good.

This is on the main floor. Okay. When I order food, you get food brought to your door. You order it. Okay, okay. For the reason. But here's the best part of the tweet. Here's the best part of the tweet.

And it goes something like this. I can't believe this service. Yada, yada, yada. My chickens in the hedges. This is why I never tip on Grubhub. I have I have I have proof I said that I have proof that I always tip no and I was saying what you hold on I said this is not like you to backpedal bro no no but I do have proof that I do that I do tip I can show you that I constantly tip that person no like listen listen listen did you tip that person listen I did

that person listen I did not tip that particular person why no because the last grub hub I got yeah my food was in the next building over Left on the ground. Yeah, but did that guy do it? No, it doesn't matter, though. So it's just, it doesn't matter. So no, so my thing is, but that person who left my food in the other building, they got a $7 tip. So that's the thing about it.

So I was like, no more tipping before I get my food. Right. No more tipping before I get my food. And it's going horrible. It's going horrible. There's no winning. There's literally no winning. And for people to feel.

like, hey, that it's okay that I see my tip before I do my job and I get to do my job accordingly to the tip that I just got. That's bullshit. Bro, you're Nick saving, bro. If I see zero, bro, if I'm ordering food,

no promises, I am ordering food and it is your job to bring my food, bro, regardless of what I'm tipping you, you're supposed to do the service. If he had to talk shit to me, if he had a board it, chick fillet in the bathroom with their little red igloo cooler and their grubhub name tag and they

are listening to this podcast and rubbing the bottom of their testicles along your chicken sandwich dude no i'm telling you you can't eat another grubhub order in the city of charlottesville because of what you did to that guy at the hedges and dot and putting him on blast and now having the audacity to come on this show i wish i had his witch a goal it was a hundred and five degrees out there. Grop-up drivers don't even keep the AC on, bro, because they're saving money. I didn't put them on blast. My thing is, it's just crazy.

What was his name then? It was, it is, I don't know. I wish I knew it. I wish I knew it. It's on the receipt. It's not, it's not, bro, trust me. So he's not. I looked at it.

I looked at everything. I looked in my, I looked in my recent everything. Yeah. Bro, it was terrible. Don't leave my shit in the bushes, bro. Don't leave my food in the bushes. counterpoint tip it doesn't tip no head of time it's like it's like buying the protection no though cell phone dude but it wasn't before it was it's only every time you know like

you said about that protection plan you know it was only 799 no you're in turn william just said it's like a warranty on your chick filet it's a great way to put it it's a great way to put it is that dude you are basically guaranteeing that your food isn't fucked up I am kissing up openly to my Grubhub driver. No, but when I do do that, bro, when I do, but what about sending $7 and thinking your food's getting to you and it's 2 o'clock in the morning and you have to do a scavenger hunt to find your goddamn food? Eat at 9 o'clock, dude.

Bro, stop. Eat like a normal human being, bro. Hey, no, you didn't have to go a scavenger hunt. You just had to look over the balcony, bro. Oh, is it there? Is it not there? I have a view of the parking lot. It's right there.

That's not how it works. That's not how it works. No, and that's not where the food was. Like, no, bro. Bro, you seem disgruntled, but here's a deal. It bothers me. I know. Because Grubhub is literally also, whatever apps they use for maps, they're the only company

that has a problem or like to find your door or fire stuff. Go Puff and all these other apps. Like, to my door, no problem. This is America, bro. You have freedom of choice. When it's Grubhubhub, it's always an issue. You have freedom of choice. There's door dash.

There's puff. There's Domino's fucking pizza. I'm sorry to say it. Like, I'm going to have to find something else. Hey, if you ever want to know if somebody's like one time I was looking for a guy, I needed to know where he was and he was ducking me. So you know what I did? Ordered him a pizza.

Sat in the parking lot. That's the best way to find out if somebody's hiding in their house. That's brilliant. Yeah, because everybody answers the door and takes the pizza, dude. You want to know if somebody's in their house. You order them a pizza. You don't go knock at the door. You're the guy not tipping.

the Grubhub driver. You could be like a dude that serves him. He's fucking taking his life into his hands every time he gets a pizza. I'm trying to put you on a game at home when you want to know where somebody is. So you agree. You agree that it is like, listen, listen to what you're saying.

You agree that it is okay. If you have a job for that person not to do their job the right way. I'm not saying that. You are saying that. You're being an old man yelling at a cloud because the world has changed, bro. I'm just telling you,

There's part of me that that wants to have it my way, and there's part of me that's like, this is the way the world is. Ideally, a tip. No, and I get it. Traditionally comes after the- I learn my lesson. I get it, bro.

I get it now. But I think that's crazy. But I think that's crazy. It's not crazy because you have choices. You could drive to the store and pick up your food. No, bro. I absolutely came. It's like shopping in the airport.

And they have choices too. If you don't want a job, if you don't want a job, if you're relying on tips, like, yo, you can't be mad if it's not mandatory to tip. No, mad would have been him taking a dump in your bag. No. He was just, uh, he was a loose, dude. I'm not going to walk up these stairs and I'm going to throw his food into the bushes. He didn't throw it in the bushes.

He put it up top in the bushes. Maybe that person couldn't walk or climb stairs. No. Wow. No. You're not doing, you're not doing delivery. Wow. Oh, oh, handicapped people can't drive.

Wow, wow, wow, wow. You're unbelievable, dude. I can't believe you. The guy obviously has, has policed. dude and he fucking was what he had to walk he had to put the he could he was nice him to even get out of the fucking thing he should have thrown it like a newspaper and if you expect him to walk up three flights of stairs because you can't be bothered to drive to the chic fillet it's 24 steps it's 24 steps you do you tag you yes it's 24 steps that's it from the ground I just think it's so

funny oh my goodness and then everyone and everyone in my mentions and then everyone in my mentions was on my side I'm not never right. This is so good. I was so right. They can kiss my ass because you guys don't believe that. And well, they're going to be you're going to be eating their ball sack. It's just like, yo, for all you people, if you have kids, this is what you're going to be. Yo, you cannot do that. Landing the plane, so to speak. You cannot do that and you can't be okay with that. Just because I know my tip, I'm going to give you service based on that before, before. Hey, you know, that's why we tip after. Listen, man, do you know, that's why we tip after. When I used to buy drugs,

illegally I would tip my drug dealer you don't think I'm gonna tip the fucking always some people say don't tip the drug dealer that's that's stupid I got fine I got fine that's the that's that'll be another hundred dollars up you know what tip somebody with that hundred dollars but you said I thought just not talking about is it just not talking about drugs or do I can't talk about is it me being higher is just drugs in general not all drugs just weed who finds me they're finding he's finding he's like he's a he's a psycho I'm not doing I'm being accountable it's important for me to be accountable as a leader as the pilot of this airplane dude so in one of those i mean well speaking of fines

and bad karma maybe for not tipping i just saw a parking ticket on nate's car before i walked in here yikes dude all you had to do the karma police are up there with they're like uh like the people in the in the jim carry movie which i love truman show it's like the Truman show they're up there they're watching you with their little monitors and computers and they're running a simulation that's what happens dude that's what karma is they read your tweet the karma police shout out to radio head shout out to karma loop

remember karma loop radio head just hit you with a fine dude karma loop was great anyways lay up line today I'm gonna go it was a good day uh ice cube I can't believe today was a good day I have in my notes here

everybody think of their their perfect day I don't know if you guys did that but I have um I had kind of a like a damn near perfect day Saturday got to go to my son's T-ball game. They won, obviously.

I don't know how people win in that sport. There are no rules. Reed's been to one of the games. Cowboy Reed came to one of the games. But that was awesome. So you get to start the day doing a kid's thing. And then my family just disappeared. They went somewhere.

And they were like, we got a bunch of stuff to do. And I had the pass to go camping. And I also had the pass to go tubing. Now, if you know anything about me, if I get the pass to go tubing, I'm going tubing. Like, my ass is going to be on the river. Like, no questions asked.

So it's my favorite thing in the world. It's my happy place. The James River is my happy place. So none of my friends could really go. Me and Fax flirted with going, but none of my friends could really go, including the guys who I was going camping with 30 minutes away. So I set out on a solo tubing trip,

just me and my lonesome floating down the river, and it was gorgeous. It was amazing. It was just what Dr. Ordered. I got off the river, dried off. Well, not really. I was walking around food line with fucking wet shoes because I forgot my shoes.

All I had was my river shoes. Drove to Skyler, Southern Nelson County. And went camping on the Rockfish River. So I got two rivers one day. And then I even stumbled upon what I thought was an oasis. It might be my favorite new bar. My favorite new watering hole.

I wouldn't call it a bar. I'd say it's more of a brewery. It's in Nelson. And for somebody who's lived there my entire life, not in Nelson, rather, been in Alboro County. I have never been here. And I was camping like pretty damn close. In fact, we rode like a four-wheeler over there.

I'll put it that way. So that was like the perfect fucking day that your boy could ask for. There was a big thunderstorm. There were my buddies. We managed to do a fire, even though it was 105 degrees. We built a fire in the middle of the room.

river, which Reed, I didn't think that was possible, but shout out to... It was impressive, but it wasn't on an island or anything. Yeah, it was like, there was a little island. Like, I'll show you the picture. Still, that's impressive. It was gorgeous, and I did nothing to help. I just sat in the river and watched my friends do it. But it was a perfect day, man, we had, we had the campfire, we had the music, we had

the watering hole. I had multiple rivers. Didn't have to use your AK? Didn't have to use my AK either, dude. I guess it was a good day. And so maybe Virginia won the tennis national championship. So that's my fucking yuppie-ass version of ice cubes. It was a good day.

You got a perfect day, Nate? Yeah. My perfect day was the last time I went to Maui, me and my girlfriend took some amazing mushrooms. Yeah. And I went snorkeling. Yeah. To the point that like I was like freaking myself out down there.

but it was awesome. The shrooms we had, like, best trip ever. My girl was on the beach laughing and crying, having the time of her life. So that made me feel, like, awesome. When you're on vacation and your girl's just having the time of her life. Just in the corner crying, looking at a sea turtle. Like, but that's what happened too. We got to see, bro, you got to see these big ass sea turtles just on the beach just, like, organically.

And it was just amazing. amazing and then after we left the beach like the resorts that we were staying in they do like every single night they make a big deal about the sunset and just being like boomed off shrooms they have people playing the fucking conch shell like at the at the sun going down bro it was unbelievable like the weather was great and it was one of those things where i'll like never forget that day and I'll never forget like just being underwater snorkeling and being down there. And there's probably 200 fish around me, right? And just out of nowhere, I'm just like, yo, it's a different world out here.

And I just start freaking out until I get to the top. And then I'm fine. And I just like started laughing on myself like, yo, this is amazing. That sounds like a great guy, dude. Yeah. Both, both, we had two things in common. Water. Well, and the mushrooms.

Yeah. Yeah, mushrooms are awesome. So great day. You guys got like a perfect day. Not even going to bother to stay in mind because it also involved mushroom. We have a problem here. Damn near a perfect day for me. And then we had Ice Cube today.

So this is another great day. For a Monday, this rips. We got Ice Cube coming up. And Big Three, that's what he does now. He does a bunch of stuff now. But the big three is that like Old Head League where, you know, and he put it this way. It's not all super old guys. There's some 20-something-year-old guys,

but this is where our stars from, you know, the past 10, 15 years that have moved on or even, like, role player guys that were less popular are now, like, fucking center stage. Yeah. It's pretty dope. You got some, like, a mix of retired NBA players, guys that are, like, fringe NBA,

but still young enough to maybe play in the NBA that, like, have played overseas, et cetera. And you've got, like, NBA and WNBA legends coaching them. It's pretty cool. And believe it or not, like, They're tapping into like the YouTube and streetball world. There's a few guys that I've seen. They just had a recent combine or the guys who are trying to make it, make it in.

Three on three is blowing up. Yeah. Three on three is now in the Olympics. There's a dude I watch on YouTube. His name is Hezegod. And I know that he went to the tryouts. He's really, he's really good.

He has a really sick Hezzy. I just love this, dude. Hey, you know what the thing about this stuff is it's way more sustainable than spring football. Yeah, you only need three guys for a team. Three guys for a team. Full roster, probably five, six. Yeah, like you can get names to go play a pickup game or play hard. I mean, like, compete. I mean, I know these guys are competing, but, you know,

it doesn't seem like you're playing an 82 game season kind of schedule with the rigors and basketball and you don't have to go full court. So like, you know, it saves your legs. I feel like he, they found a way to monetize an old man's like a man, old man's league. but with just like with the players that you want to see, premier players that you kind of want to see that still have something in the tank, but maybe not enough to still scratch and be on an NBA roster.

They don't have quite all the players we'd like to see. Like I know Chris and I have been chatting about like our favorite centers from the 90s. Yeah. Yeah, we need more bigs. Yeah, the huge three. I want to start a league called the huge three where it's just all fives from the 90s.

Nate, you were saying that you met Manute Bull when you're a kid or something? Yeah, shout out to my homeboy, Drew Gladstone. I believe Drew is a college basketball coach now, but his dad, whatever he does, wealth management or something, he had Manute Bowl as one of his clients, and me, one of my best friends, Porky, and Drew, Drew's met him before.

Like, we got to go to the office when his dad had Manute. And I seen Manute Bowl get out of a car, and as a kid, I still have that image. of seeing like his knees physically scrunched up to his chest and the way he was like craning his legs out of the car and then like standing up like as a kid like seeing someone tall get out of a car you're like oh wow they're tall but seeing like they had to unfold seeing manu bowl is one of those things where is this a real i mean i don't mean this in a bad way but like is this like a human being like i've never seen anyone this big i've never seen anyone this

big. I've never seen anyone this tall. So it was crazy. Thinking about that, you know, we've been talking about short kings a little bit. Like, would you rather be minute bull tall, like 7-7 or 5 foot 2? I'd rather be 5 foot too, dude. You'd rather be 7-7, you said earlier, which to me, we're not parking our cars in the same garage on this one. You can't even fit in the garage, bro. Bro, I can't imagine sitting and having my feet not touch the ground on anything. That's which that's what you imagine being at a bar rather my bro dangle you know what's awesome imagine being at south and central they have those high stools your feet will be dangling you know what people love being a kid dude i would get to feel like i was a kid all the time my feet would be dangling i would

marry like a six foot tall woman dude and she would just hold me just hold you pick you up you would love that she would just she would just yeah piggybacks the whole nine yards but i'm not above it either dude you know like i that's a good question to think of about being seven foot seven is it's crazy to me because it's one of the most overrated things in the world is being seven foot seven like yes you might buy a fuck ton of money but they're like at one point they weren't making clothes big enough i don't care how much money you may it can't be fun new bowl couldn't shop a gap dude no no new bowl couldn't buy a motor vehicle to suit him like you just said like it's like every time he comes into town imagine being seven six and having to call an

uber just get somewhere bro you like trucks you can't drive your truck hey how about sleeping you can't drive your truck. I'll get a fucking booster seat or like one of those. But what about your leg? Your legs are long enough. A five two person can drive a truck. A five two dude can drive a truck. Totally, bro. There's five two chicks that drive trucks all the time. Oh yeah, that's true. That's just

not safe. You know how close you are to the you think it's on safe for a little guy to drive a truck? You get an accident. If you're in a new bowl, you get folded permanently like a lawn chair that gets like permanently bro, like an accordion. Reverse accordion dude.

Either one is terrible. Your life's Manu Pold passed away in Charlottesville. You didn't know that. You told me that today and that is like... You don't live as long, bro. You don't really speaking, really tall people don't have great health outcomes. You're not here for a long time. You're here for a good time.

That's why, you know, like if I'm 5'2, all those tall kings are going to be laughing at me. But I'm going to be around a while, dude. It's going to be me, people that smoke cigarettes for a long time. I would take 7-7. You would take 7.7. Yeah, just to play in the league. I could make the league of us 7-7. Yeah, you could, but then when the, it's tough when athletes retire, bro.

But when you retire and you're 7-7, like, you can't walk around anywhere, anywhere, bro. But you lock up all endorsements. Anything having to do with tall is me. Get it why you can, bro. It's me. Let me get that. Okay. Get it why you can.

The short thing, you got a lot more people competing with you. That's fine, dude. I'm going to be reading the newspaper with my feet dangling off my kitchen. stool reading about you dying at 49 years old. It would be nice to fight coach and have a bunch of room. Bro, you'd be bouncing off the walls being so small, though, bro. I can't just think about that. Just think about sitting on certain couches or whatever and your feet going like that.

You'll be like, what the off? Is that it? Also, think about, we talked about this last week. I'm 5'2. Holy shit. My pipe is like. You can't go to six flags. How said Hoover Dam, Mona Lisa?

Yeah. Yeah. That's no guarantee. I'm hanging Garnica at the fuck, like the little creek down the street, dude, if I'm 5'2. If I'm 7-7, what do you think? You think that thing that's just off of metrics. But if you're 7-7, that's not something like if that holds up

and everything's the same size, like you're not exactly having fun at the drop of a hat. You've got to find the right hallway. And you don't think short guys do. nowadays with these type of females short kings you don't know I don't know bro chicks don't like short kings sorry to tell you they would like me I'd be a charming

short king bro and I'd be alive bro able to protect her you'd all these tall macho 7-7 kings get that reverse surgery then you know the surgery they have expanding part three the question was do you not want to be six foot four six four is the perfect height everybody knows that

yeah no I wish I had two more inches gotta go a long way down and tie your shoes bro got someone doing that for you got to buy huge shoes my feet are my little size sixes are dangling bro like the little shoes that people tie on their rear view mirror like the little baby shoes that's how my little shoes are dangling I'm five two I'm happy I'm a king long living king all right so ice cube is going to join us now there's no eye and team but there is one in indeed and that's the hiring partner you need to build you When you're hiring, you need Indeed. Indeed is the hiring platform where you can attract, interview, and hire all in one place. Instead of spending hours on multiple job sites,

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What's happening with you, man? How are you feeling? Dude, we're great. We're better now. I see Ice Cube's on the other end of the Zoom. I'm like, we're doing something right here. So this is good. This is a good day for us, man. I know it's an exciting time for you. You're like one of the busiest people, I think, in entertainment. You got the big three going, movies, the whole thing. I do want to ask you about the other big three for me. It's George Clooney, Mark Wahlberg, and Ice Cube. in Three Kings, and we'll talk about that in a little bit, because that's a movie I grew up on for sure. But the big three, the basketball league, starts mid-June, 12 weeks. It starts in Chicago. You had a million people watch last year's championship. What's on tap this year, man? What's

different about it? Is this like the best year yet with the rosters and that sort of thing? Well, I mean, I think our teams are starting off, you know, the strongest this year. You know, we have a A lot of movement. A couple of new guys coming into the league, like Joe Green and Michael Beasley. These are guys I've been, you know, hoping to see in the big three for years. And so, you know, the league,

since it's a lot of talent out there, the league is really getting, the competition is getting stiff. You know, before we would have teams where you said, okay, this team is the favorite. You know, this team might have the names, but, but don't really, you know, have the game to be champions. But when you look up and down the rosters now,

it's just the teams are starting on strong. And then you have the draft pool was crazy this year. You know, everybody come in ready to go. You know, the reputation of the big three, and got out there that it's physical and it's his own, you know, style. And you have to

you got to be big three ready. So guys are coming in ready. Yeah. It's like grown man ball, dude. My favorite video is a video of Catino Mobley at the G League just giving guys work.

And he's got like the fucking beard. He looks like he's 55, but he's still got so much game. And like that's the thing about football. is we couldn't do a pickup game. We're all too fucking jacked up. We couldn't get out there and do it. But like the beauty of the NBA is if these guys stay in shape,

they can still play competitive basketball. You guys can market and people love it, like eating this stuff up. So I think it's really cool that these guys can play later into, you know, their careers and still make money and you guys can entertain people with it. The All-Star game is where this year?

We're in the Bahamas this year. Yeah, it's dope. We was there last year for the championship. and trilogy won their second championship. So it was fun, but it was tense. You know, everybody wanted to win. You know, it was playoffs, it was championship. So now we decided to go back,

but with an all-star game, where everybody could be a little looser, have a little more fun with their family, and not be so, you know, geared up to win. And so, you know, we, we, we, This is our first all-star game. So we're excited to see who's going to make it and how it all plays out. You want to go to the Bahamas?

Yeah. Come on with it, man. We're going to do it for sure. We'll fucking bring a GoPro down there and see what's up, dude. Hey, no, I mean, like, who's the guy? I mentioned Cotino Mobley. Who's the guy who looks the oldest, but really, like, still has game? Like, when they walk in the gym, you're like, oh, this guy, this guy looks 50,

but he can still get buckets like with anybody. Man, Mahmoud Abdul. Yeah, there we go. You know, he's a player that's, you know, I think he's our oldest player. But, you know, he's still giving them, you know, dubs out there. You know, he still can score 20 points. And, you know, some of our younger players can't.

So it's really all about your game, you know, your age, your name. That don't matter in the big three. It's either you can play this style and succeed or you can't. Because, you know, we got some 25, 25, 26-year-olds out there that's struggling. And then you see a guy, you know, that's into his 50 still, you know, giving them the business. So that just lets you know it's over when you say it's over. It's not over when the NBA says it's over or in the other league. It's when you say it's over.

So you've been in a lot of movies too. We'll talk about that in a second, but you've played probably basketball against a lot of people who did other things for living, including other rappers. Who are some rappers that could hoop or actors or celebrities that you've hoop with that could hoop? The hoopers, you know, Snoop can hoop for sure.

The game. Yeah, I can imagine. Definitely can hoop. Yeah, you know, these guys, you know, they can ball. I mean, but you'll be surprised, you know, it's like singers like Brian. night that can get busy, you know. You know, it's like,

you know, Chris Brown. Chris Brown's good, right? Yeah. Chris Brown is dope. Yeah. And, and, you know, I played against Jalil White, you know what I'm saying? He wasn't playing like Urkel that day. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? So it's like, uh, you just never know who got the game. I played, I played against George Clooney a couple times, you know,

So I heard you got after cloney. Of course, man. I got to show him what's up, man. You know, I got to show him, you know what I mean? You know, I got to show him it's a good day. So I had to score triple double on his ass. Hell yeah, dude. So real quick, before we get into some other stuff about football and sports,

like I was so excited to hear that you love that song because, you know, some artists, I feel like if they have to play one song over and over again or like perform one song over again or they hear it, like they might. not like it as much, but you still love that song. Yeah, I mean, it's an amazing song. I mean, we started off with hit music from the Isley Brothers. So to add, you know, the right lyrics on top of it, and for people to love the song so much,

you know, I love performing it because it makes people happy, you know, they're having a good time. It is a good day, you know, to get a chance to see the homie, Cube up there. So, you know, it's really a perfect song, you know, especially for artists like myself, who, who've, you know, made a living on hardcore music and just letting people know that, you know, there's two sides to every coin.

There's two sides to most people. And there's two sides to life, you know. So, you know, it's just a good song, a perfect song. and people still love it like it came out yesterday. So, you know, I enjoy doing it. Yeah, it's a classic. And you had people on Reddit. I had my producers track this down.

They said there's a whole Reddit group that was dedicated to find it out what day it is that you're talking about. My guess was it was like, you know, like the highlight reel of a week or like a couple months for you. But was it all one day or is it people said, because the thing you gave away was the Lakers being the Supersonics. I mean, that happens probably pretty often back in that time period, but there's only a few games on the schedule. So they had it down to January 20th, 1992. This is people who read it. So what do you think about people trying to triangulate the day, the Cube's best day ever, and how much it was one day and how much of it is just a bunch of shit? First of all, it's amazing that they were able to track everything that happened in the song to one day. You know, I don't know what kind of day I had actually on January 20th, 1992.

I just don't remember. So it's really the fantasy of having the perfect day. You know, good day to me was kind of the precursor to Friday. You know, I did a good day. I did a great video with F. Gary Gray. And then, you know, three years later, we do Friday together, which is kind of similar in a lot of ways. You know, it's a day where a lot of crazy stuff happened but end up working out.

So, you know, it's cool to see them break that day down. And, you know, in their minds, yo, it could be January 20th, 19. So there we go. Let that be the day, baby. January 20th, it'd be a holiday, man. Let the Reddit people know. Let's do it. Yeah.

Jerry, he tried the good day. Good day, Cube Day, whatever, but it was a good day. And the best part of that day, to me, this is a very underrated part of that day is she didn't sleep over. You know what I mean? So I thought that was the best part of Cube's good day. It was at the end of the day he got his place to himself. I don't know, man.

You know, some people want to hit that ass all night. You know what I'm saying? I don't know what I mean? You want to wake up and hit it in the moon. morning, man, and then send it home. So maybe one o'clock in the morning was a little too early. And it was hard to get girls in the late, well, it wasn't hard to get girls for you, but like, it was probably hard because of the communication factor. Like Howard dudes, was it pagers and beepers? Or like, were people calling chicks landlines or what was going on, dude?

Yeah, it was definitely pagers back then, beepers. But you did sometimes have to call and catch a chick at home. Like, hey, tell her I call. Yeah, I call me back. And you know what I'm saying? And it's like, it was kind of hard sometimes to get in contact with the chick. But if they really liked you, it wasn't hard at all. You know what I mean? They called right back.

No question. All right. So Fat Burger, dude. Fat Burger, is Fat Burger still the thing to you, man? Because I've been in some online debates. Shout out to our buddies that busting with the boys. But I've always said, and I don't know if you're going to hate me now, but that in and out's a little overrated.

and so what's the best? Whoa, whoa, I don't know about that. You know, and now we've got some good burgers. All right, but fat burgers do too. Okay, fat burgers do too. But see, you know, I remember the original fat burgers, you know what I'm saying? So that's when they were, you know, super juicy. They, you know, they franchised out, you know, some, you know, with every franchise

some do better than others you know but I still I had a fat burger the other day so I could still kill one that's really cool you said that this was kind of like you showing the flip side of the coin because so much of your early music was like really fucking true and powerful and raw like in it and you were you were saying things that that were probably I mean they were true but they were probably stressful to fucking put out an album you know talking about police and stuff and all that stuff like how much do you think that talking about some of the things you talked about early on affected your day-to-day, just like interactions you had,

wondering if, hey, this person's heard your music or what they think about what you had to say or, you know, like a little bit more paranoid with police or that sort of thing. Not one bit. Yeah. Not one bit. You know, to me, you know, doing music, especially, you know, putting out different albums and different times, I look at them as time capsules, you know, where you can capture the moment, capture the feeling, capture the culture.

And you put them out and, you know, people can buy them. They can not. You can listen to it. You can change the station. So I never felt like any kind of way. You know, to me, you hear my music, you don't like it. That's kind of your problem, not really mine. You know, once I put it out, it's like a pain.

You put it out, you put it up on the wall, and you walk away, and people will come and they'll look at it and they'll like it or love it or hate it. You know, and that's their issue. It has nothing to do with the artist. So I always looked at the music the same way. You know, you put it out and you keep it moving. People like it, love it or hate it, and that's really, that's their issue, not mine. Yeah, you took more risk than some people. I mean, so the shit you said was realer and rar than a lot of people at the thing.

the time though that's you know why i wonder you know and i think that's what makes you and guys like you special because you just put it on the wall you know what i mean just put it on the wall and walk away i'm still doing raw hardcore shit you know what i'm saying it's just uh a different time in my career but at the end of the day that's what hip hop is about to me that's what being on emce is about it's about saying what you feel and not what you think people want to hear you know To me, that's kind of, you know, ass backwards. You know what I mean? You should come from the heart and let the chips fall where they make because that's hip hop to me.

Yeah. Did you ever get burnt out? Because you put out so much good music in a four or five year period. I mean, like the pace with which you wrote and produced and made music, I mean, including the NWA stuff, which you were so important to that group and that showed over time. but like did you ever get burnt out? Like is there, you know, like I know you're a worker, but does it ever get tiring to have to answer the bell from a creativity standpoint?

No, I mean, that's what I love to do. You know what I'm saying? I start doing it as a hobby at first. Yeah. So to get paid to do it is just kind of icing on the cake. I love to create. And, you know, but I did get to a point in my career where I was trying to do too much, you know, like leaving a movie set and going straight to the

studio, working in the studio all night, then going back to the movie set, you know, something, something when you work like that, something suffers. So I learned to, you know, when I'm working on music, don't talk to me about movies, you know. And when I'm working on movies, don't talk to me about music. You know, I just stay focused on what I, the job at hand, the task at hand, and things come out better, um, doing it that way instead of trying to, you know, do everything at the same time. Yeah, I mean, like people with a high work capacity, one of the hardest things is saying no. Like, because yeah, I want to do all this shit. But yeah, like there's 24 hours in a day. Yeah, especially when it's creative, when it's innovative, when it's innovative.

when it's something new that people haven't, you know, are not hip to yet, you know, you want to hit them to it. Yeah, you want to, you know, jump in there when somebody brings something and say, yo, this is the new shit. This, you know, let's try it from this angle. You know, I want to jump in there and do it, you know. So you do have to pace yourself and make sure that you're doing great work and not just good work.

and great work takes time, energy, and focus. Yeah, John Singleton, right? He's your guy who passed away in 2019. Talk about the importance, you know, in your career as a whole, not as a musician, but as, you know, the business. I mean, I owe my whole movie career to John Singleton. You know, I wasn't, I was discovered. I didn't audition.

I didn't pursue this path. You know, he basically told me it's something in you that I think you could do it. And would you try it? And so, you know, I trusted him in his vision because he was the smartest dude that I knew. when he came to film. Right. You know, and he, you know, I met him when he was just an intern at the Arsenio Hall show.

That's true, huh? He was really, that's fucking crazy. He was an intern at the Arsenio Hall show. And I was up there to talk to Arsenio to convince him to have NWA on the show because he had just had Luke from the two live crew on the show. So I said, if you can have Lou, doing, you know, the nasty shit, you can have us doing the hard stuff. So I never got a chance to talk to Arsenia because he was moving, you know, to do a show. But I ended up talking to John Singleton the whole time.

Yeah. And he was, he was just a youngster at film school. You know, he was just a junior telling me about a movie he believes I'm great for. He pursued me for two years until I really forgot all about everything he said my manager told me, hey, somebody want to put you on a movie.

Like me? Oh, what? Yeah, somebody wants to put you on the movie. She didn't even know who he was. So she gave me the script. I'm thinking I'm going there and see some white director who liked my rap and want me to rap in one of his movies.

Now it's John Singleton. in there. And he's like, I told you. I told you I was going to put you in a movie and I was fucking terrible. My auditions suck. My auditions suck.

And he was like, dude, did you read my script? And I'm like, no. I just read these pages that came. He said, man, you know, go home, read my script. and I'll give you one more chance

you come back tomorrow but if you're not if you if you if you're terrible tomorrow it's over I might have to get somebody else so I fucking focused then

you know I then I read the script and I was blown away because it was it was about how we grew up you know I'm like damn this is movie word I mean they're gonna do a movie about this shit and um

you know I went back in, I knew, I knew what to do here. I knew, I knew, you know, a red dough boy. I knew, you know, a million, a million dough boys, you know what I'm saying. So it was, it was pretty easy. You made a point earlier about movies before Boys in the Hood and then movies after where gangsters were portrayed. Oh, yeah.

Like, I, just the era of the movies that you were a part of and you were in, just like you were saying, And how was it just being like a part of that era where they start portraying the things that they weren't showing when it comes to the mafia guys? Yeah, when it comes to gang cultures in the black community versus seeing mafia and these type of things, casino and all those type of movies that are getting popular. But now we get a chance to see, hey, like, hey, we're seeing what the gangs or what's going on in the black community. And, hey, is it all bad? Is it like, is some of it good? What's really going on? and having the chance to really paint that picture and be a part of it,

how does it feel? And like, how do you feel it's gone since the starting of those films and being a part of kind of the beginning of it? Well, you know, we had certain films that were trying to portray what things were, you know. I mean, colors was the closest that I had seen. But that was still directed by Dennis Hopper. To me, it wasn't really the authentic look at the issue. And so, and it was from like the crash unit cop point of view.

You know what I mean? So that was a little disappointed. So it was to me cool to be able to show things from our point of view. And hopefully made people understand, you know, how a person like Do Boy becomes Dooboy and how, you know, a person like Trey becomes Trey and Ricky becomes Ricky, you know, and show that it was three different personalities in the hood. Everybody ain't a gangster. You know, everybody ain't trying to thug out. Some people are just trying to live a day-to-day life. So to me it was good to be able to show that we real people and it's not what you see on the

evening news all the time. And so, but, you know, at the end of the day, I ended up making Friday because, you know,

movies like Boys and a minister society, movies like South Central was kind of showing that it was like a hellhole, you know, that we didn't have no fun. It was just,

you know, all, you know, tension. And I wanted to show, wait a minute, you know, we had fun growing up. We looked at things and laughed at a lot of things that probably would make most people cry.

But, you know, it wasn't a hellhole. So Friday kind of was my relief valve on all the imagery that was shown up until the end about the hood. Yeah, I made me think that you were talking about like there's all types of factors. It's not just a hellhole. there's like I was listening to your music earlier. Burden Hand was a song that like reminded me of like giving the context around why things the way they are. You know,

and the way music is art and then your movies and art in a different way. You know, like it's storytelling. Without a doubt, you know, it's straight up storytelling and giving you a real piece of people. And, you know, with my music, I go hardcore with it. With my movies, I try to make people. laugh and entertain people in a different way to show that it is two sides to every situation and, you know, it depends on how you look at it and how you approach it. But it's still about understanding, you know, how we all live and how we all are similar,

but how we all are different too. And it's cool we can celebrate our differences just as much. as we could celebrate our similarities. Is it true Singleton was, he didn't warn people when there were gunshots going off on that set. Is that true or rumor? Yeah, that's true. When we were shooting the crunch shot scene,

he kept telling everybody through the megaphone that you'll hear me go, pop, pop, pop. that's when everybody run and scattered. And it was a lot of people out there. And it was, you know, really one of the first times they was shooting a movie right there on Crenshaw. So you had people that was working with the movie. Right. But you had all kind of people from the neighborhood around two.

So you never knew like, you know, if some real shit, it was going to jump off anyway. So that was the tension that was there anyway, that we was like, I hope they let us film our shit before they get to act and crazy around here. You know, that was the sentiment anyway. Yeah. And so when it was time to do the scene,

we all thinking we're going to hear this pop, pop, pop, pop. And he had repeated this at least 10 to 15 times to the point we was like, all right, man, shit. Got it. Do the pop, pop, pop, pop, so we can do the shit. And it was real AK. It was real AK. And so everybody's scattering is real.

You know, it's not fake. That's real right here. Talk about method director. You know, method acting and fucking method director there. But you know what's so cool about that, you know, there's so much pop culture that like the age of the internet picked up from that movie and made it like almost a saying, like a pop culture saying.

Like you want to see a dead body. Like, you know, the whole, Ricky. You know, people just scream Ricky. we'd be at practice and somebody would scream Ricky because somebody like pulled a hamstring or some shit and fell on the ground. Yeah. Like, you know what I mean? Like I'm like, oh, man, we're still talking about boys in the hood or like punch in the air

and all this stuff. Like early movies in the 90s, man, especially the movies that you made. I talk about Friday. You just said it. Like Friday was amazing to me as a white kid in the fucking suburbs who's seen nothing like this. Like, but you introed me to that community in a way that was like, hey, this is like, like, it's, you know, Chris Tucker's funny as shit.

there's just people just walking around hanging out like it's just like any other place there's just bad shit that comes with it and i just loved friday man like the soundtrack everything i got into certain older music because of the soundtrack to friday i had the cd i didn't know it was a roach until i was like 13 on the fucking on the on the on the cd bro but friday was like really fucking cool to me because i really like the movie and i love the music i love the soundtrack did you pick all everything on the soundtrack like did you curate that soundtrack as well definitely um you know to me music really locks you into a movie if it's done right i remember seeing a movie called let's do it again with uh with sidney portier and bill cosby it's a funny movie

and Jimmy Walker. And the movie started off with a song by Mavis Staples, Curtis Mayfield called Let's Do It Again. And it was like a jam. And the movie started off with this song. It was named this song. And it just, it kind of cemented everything in my mind with the music. Every time I hear the music, think of the movie. so when it was time for me to do my first movie which is which was Friday which is the first movie I produced right um

I wanted to be to be filled with with music that was memorable that people you know loved anyway you know from Mary Jane uh you know what I'm saying hey I want to get next to you uh yeah I want to get next to you yeah yeah all that old shit like I'm 11 12 years old old white kid in the suburbs and I'm like this is cool as hell like I went backwards into old music because of that soundtrack same thing was sampling in rap music like sampling and a lot of the new york rap that I was into but also some of the g funk stuff like it allowed me to go backwards and like listen to the music that was being attributed the same way it's cool it's fucking cool dude that's the reach of music it is you know um you know i kind of was was you know in the sampling era

you know what I mean deep and so we discovered a lot of music that our parents used to listen to from looking for you know stuff we can sample so we were all in their crates discovering jazz discovering um you know motown discovering blues discovering all these records that we would have never listened to unless we were looking for dope hooks

dope horns dope beats dope breakdowns You know, we were looking for all that stuff. So, you know, it was the same effect. It's funny because we talked about, like, the raw nature of, like, your early music and the things that you were saying that, you know, like, you know, maybe tough for some people to hear, but, you know, it had to be talked about. And then in 1998, this is the crazy, this is what I really wanted to ask you was. You went on tour with corn.

Yeah. So for me, you know, again, white kid in the suburbs in a beautiful house, You know, the fucking everything I need, DMX poster on the wall, that whole thing. I wasn't a big corn fan or anything, but I bet you if I was watching like MTV, I saw that tour. I saw like, you go from probably, you know, a kid in South Central who I don't know what your day-to-day dealings with like white people are like generally. But now you're in 1998, you're on tour and you look out in the crowd as a bunch of fucking white kids that are like 12, 13 years old. Like, what's that like? you're like, do you feel weird about kids that have no idea what you're talking about,

listening to your music, or do you feel like they know that it's authentic and it's a feeling? Like, how did you feel making that transition a little bit? Well, the first tour I went on was Lollapalooza. Oh, yeah. I did it in 92. You know, Ice T had did it in 91. Yeah. And so I was like, ice, you know, like,

like this is an alternative tour you know what I'm saying like how did they accept what you was doing he said uh shit we're the alternative to the alternative yeah so just go out there and rock they ask you know like it was a hip-hop show yeah so that was good advice because you know we just went out there and kind of you know did all the songs that we felt would get that crowd going right and it worked because we were the only ones doing crowd participation. You know, we had them, you know, waving their hands in the air like they just don't care. And we don't. And we don't.

Fuck it. Hey, we'll do whatever. Is this okay? This was, this was some of their first exposure to a rap concert and they loved it. And so, but we out there with, you know, Jesus and Mary Chain. out there with ministry, we out there with red hot chili peppers, you know what I'm saying? And so by the time we did the stuff with corn, the Family Values Tour, you know, it's corn, it's limp biscuit.

Yeah, you're ready. Yeah, you know, and it's, was it ministry on that one? No, no, it was a, damn, it was a Roth, Roth, Ramstein. Holy shit, they had that one song, Duhast. they put their self on fire on the motherfucker's stage you know what I mean like they self on fire like you're like okay this is alternative as fuck this is crazy shit right here so by then you know the blend of hip hop um you know metal or or grunge and all that was starting to blend where it wasn't so weird.

You know, right now, it's not, you know, it's nothing to see, you know, a rapper with a rock band or, you know, or it's just normal. But back then, we were, you know, starting to merge, started with run DMC, you know what I'm saying, with the walk this way.

Yeah. And then, uh, uh, public enemy and anthrax did, uh, bring the noise and then you know then you had ice tea um you know with it with his group um damn why i can't get these dudes man um damn his metal group i can't think of it because i don't

really listen to metal this is my blind spot dude this is yeah you're helping me with my blind spot the head of the metal dude how about that body count body count i've heard a body count yeah body count. Yeah. Was there anybody at one of these things that you were like, damn, they're really good. I'm shocked by this. No, I expected everybody to be good. Yeah. Because to me,

you wouldn't be on the show if you wasn't good. But I, man, I enjoyed like, I mean, the chili peppers. Yeah, they're fucking great. They would have me going. You know what I'm saying? They were so dope. Like I said,

we would just trip off Ramstein. Yeah. Or Ramstein. They were crazy, dude. Yeah, they would just set their self on fire. It just took me back to 1999 or whatever it was. Brugent Rayford JV football game. Ramstein on the speakers. That's crazy.

And then Ice Cube probably was the next track. So this is pretty cool. I'm not done with the movies, man, because I got to say, this is crazy. Like, we could do two interviews about like two, three different careers here, which is really cool. compliment to you, but like, I always joke with my dad and with Strahan, those guys on the show. They're in, they've done so well with their brand and they've done so many different things that

some young people are like, oh, my dad, it was like, that's the Radio Shack guy, or that's the NFL Fox Sunday guy or Strayhan's the Good Morning America guy. But he's not the fucking guy that that made his bones like on a football field or like for you, you've done so many things. I think you're one of the best rappers of all time. Like if you ask young rappers today, I think they just did an article, everybody's top five. There's a bunch of ice cubes on there. And I wonder, do you ever think like, fuck, dude, I'm so good at so many things, like I get underrated at the thing that I'm, like, truly transcending at.

No, I mean, I don't trip off that. To me, it's all subjective. Yeah. You know, I got a lot of fans, you know, from all different walks of life, um, eight to 80, you know, and they all. They are interested in different things that I do. So, you know, I don't really count all my accolades, so to speak, like, and they give me enough love here.

You know, to me, it's really about, you know, showing what you got. Yeah. You know, I ain't really worried about what I did yesterday. You know, I'm worried about what I'm going to do tomorrow. And so that's really how I live it. You know, maybe I'll look back at one point. Like, y'all better give me my damn respect. Not there yet.

But, you know, I got too much to do, man. Yeah, you seem comfortable in your skin about it, dude. What about maybe one of the biggest accomplishments? I love Anaconda, dude, the movie Anaconda. If I can get stoned and watch Anaconda, that's about as good as it gets, man. Like, that is one of the best. And you actually got the start of the movie was, today is a good day, yeah? Yeah, yeah.

That's one of the first. line. Yeah, so you got to put your line in there. I just want to confirm some with you. The CGI on the snakes was 100K a second. Is that true or false? I have no idea, but I know the mechanical snake that they used. They had two of them, and he said that those snakes at the time cost $10 million to make. So the snakes were paid more than we were. Like, you know, fucking snake, mechanical bullshit

that broke, you know, some of the time, you know what I'm saying? It was new technology they was using. And yeah, the fucking two snakes was $10 million. Bro, that warehouse scene had to cost 10 mil. I mean, holy shit, dude,

at the end of that movie. How cool has it been seeing your son, O'Shea Jackson Jr., do, like, awesome shit on the silver screen and kind of like come into his own. What's your attitude? Because I'm part of a father-son deal. Like, Dad, he didn't want to give me anything.

He wanted to make me earn everything. Like, how do you walk that line of being supportive and, like, giving him advice, but making him kind of go through what you've been through? I mean, it's amazing to me. I was amazed at what he did with straight out of Compton, but he's taking his career and ran with it and has made it into, you know,

You know, something that he can really, you know, pursue fall back on and keep doing. I mean, just seeing the types of movie he's doing, you know, from Godzilla, you know, he's in the new Star Wars that's coming out, the Obi-1 Canobi. It's just amazing that he's able to surpass some of the things that I've done in the movie industry. So just proud of him. and I'm going to help him along the way any way I can. You know what I mean? I, um,

you know, I believe in going a hard route to a certain point, but then it's all about giving your kids the game to succeed no matter what. You know, you don't have to, you know, this ain't a fair world. You don't have to play fair.

Right. Is it nobody else is playing fair. It's everybody else is like, who do you know to get this role or, yeah, fuck yeah. You got to, yeah.

What you got to do. Do it. Do it. takes to win without cheating anybody. So that's the key. No question. But, you know, ain't nothing wrong with winning. You know, when you're second generation, you know, you should be able to navigate the pitfalls, you know, easier than your pops had to. You know what I mean? Like, you know, it's really all about setting them up to win and hopefully to go from generation to generation.

No question. A couple quick questions for you on football before we get you out of here, man. Do you hate somebody the most in the AFC West? You're a Raiders fan. Do you have one team that you're like, I just fucking can't? The Chiefs. There you go.

I hate the Chiefs. You know, the Chiefs, I just, I can't, I can't roofing them no way, no how. But now I hate the Broncos. Now I hate the Chargers just as much. All of them good. So I hate them all.

What do you think about the Broncos? Like maybe you could buy them and just sink the fuck out of the franchise. Like just tank them. Cube. Come on. That's because at first you were like I would have everybody. Yeah. See? Hey, chest, dude. You chest. Buy them and run them into the ground. Exactly, dude. Exactly. Well, fucking the Raiders, they're going to be pretty good this year. I mean, like one of the best fan bases ever. When you were younger and you were going to those games in the early 90s, like the games

of my parents, like some games that I didn't go to because the Coliseum was so rough and there's so many fights and shit. I was a little kid. Like my mom wouldn't take me. Like were there rowdy. Yeah, there were no sweets either. So when rappers went to like the Coliseum, like, how did y'all get took care of? Shit, sitting right there in the stands with everybody else. You know what I'm saying? We had good seats though, you know.

Yeah, I bet you did. On the 30, but, you know, I had season tickets. You know what I'm saying? Me, my wife, some of my kids would go hang out. You'd be right there in the mix with everybody else. So it was fun. You know, it was fun. to first it was fun to be to have enough money to have season tickets you know what I'm saying so that was cool but to have the Raiders in the Coliseum in the good old days was nice but this new stadium they got is amazing it's what the Raiders always deserved and I'm glad they finally got it it's a beautiful stadium I hate new stadiums I miss the Coliseum I used to play in that that thing late in my career to play the Rams when I wasn't on the Rams anymore

and you'd walk out on the field and it was dog shit. The locker rooms dog shit, the bleachers with dog shit. It might be like when you play an old venue and you're like, this place has a soul. Like I might not want to see a fucking game here or see a show here, but as a performer or a player, I see that flame in the end zone lit up. And I'm like, hey, I was lit up for my dad. It was lit up for, you know, all those bad motherfuckers in the 80s and the 70s. And I get to play here now.

It's pretty dope. So I miss that place, but I echo those sentiments, man. I'll give you one last question here. This is, and I'm an idiot. I don't understand crypto. I don't understand NFTs, but I was told there's an NFT element to Big Three ownership. Can you explain that to me? Is that possible?

There's a new opportunity for team ownership and the Big Three. How can Nate and I buy a Big Three team? Am I too late? You're not too late. And we do have two tiers. of NFT ownership. You know, we have the fire tier and then we have the gold tier. And we're making some adjustments.

You know, what's great about what we're doing is most NFTs are just pictures, you know. You trade art or whatever. But this is a real utility. You know, we free tickets to the game, folding rights, merchandise. you know, it's very cool for a fan to really be able to get one of these and then have some real stake in if your team win or lose. Because as your team wins, you get, you know, more benefits and better things to be a part of. And it's forever. You know what I'm saying?

So, you know, I'm pretty sure as the league grows, these things will get more and more value. over time. So for people that's in a bare market right now, this is your perfect purchase because it's over time. You can keep it and always be able to be treated like our owner in the big three. So to me, it's an amazing way to connect with our fans. You know, we're not connected to any cities. So it's not the, you know, San Diego trilogy or the Dallas you know, monsters. It's really,

you know, we have to connect with communities and this is to me a cool way to do it. Well, we might get in on that and then we might,

you know, as part of the owners, we might see if we can get a tour where you make that, where you grow those moon rocks that I heard you guys going out there. We got a few.

You know, that's that, that's that Friday Cush and that Good Day Cush. You know, you know, we were on the website. Yeah,

we were on the website. So, Hey, yay. Hey, Ice Cube, man. Thank you so much for all the time, man. Very generous. And can't wait to see what you're doing next, man. You do some awesome shit.

We love it. So big fans. Anytime, Chris, and whenever you want to do this again, just let me know. We will definitely holl at you, man. Could have talked a while. Thank you, bro. It's pretty easy talking football in the green light pot.

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Hey, I got 25 minutes. Hey, I got 30 minutes. We usually ask for 45 unless I know somebody well and it's going to be like a long interview. But I was like, man, I'd love to have Ice Cube for 45 minutes. And usually when I ask, you know, Brian or whoever booked the guest, if it's not me, I don't expect to get 45 minutes. Ice Cube gave us 47 minutes, dude. I just talked to Ice Cube for 47 minutes.

The 13-year-old me would have knocked over his lava lamp. That was incredible. I alluded to this, you know, talking to Ice Cube was like being 13 years old, being a fan of rap music, listening to a bunch of lyrics that I was slowly figuring out what they meant, you know, things that were like totally unrelatedable to me. But I think it's definitely the rawness and the realness. of what somebody's talking about that that's undeniable even if you don't know what it is and that's why a bunch of kids like rap music that have nothing to do with what's being talked about and that was

me and i told you i had a cork board with a bunch of bob marley stuff but i also have my dmx uh covered in blood over my bed i had my cd book was full of things like the 504 boys or like fucking yeah her fucking ice cube or NWA or like just hardcore shit that was like why are we listening to this stuff and uh it was cool to have a conversation with ice cube and be like hey were you cool with that like the fact that we were all like fucking really into your shit just cool to hear from from a guy like that and also you know not just a great rapper but somebody who's made himself into this like brand so big that I'm pretty sure some people don't even know how he got famous in the first place who are young. He was so fucking cool.

Like you've said a bunch of times how like Tom Brady's had two or three Hall of Fame careers. Same thing with Ice Cube. And there was a few things he brought up in that interview that I thought were like super interesting. One thing is he brought up that movie, Let's Do It Again from 1975. Right.

And I didn't realize one of the main characters in that movie is named Biggie Smalls. And that's supposedly, according to you, now I'll find you if you're wrong here. I don't think I'm wrong. He thinks that's where Biggie Small's got his name was from the character in the movie. Yeah, I'm pretty sure. He had to be a pretty cool character. So let's do it again.

Staples Singers, I just liked that song on Spotify. So I'm going to go down a big rabbit hole probably off of that song right there. And then he brought up that supposedly Brian McKnight and Jaliel White, aka Erkel. Can you get buckets? Can I tell you something, dude? I met Erkel at the Super Bowl a couple years ago. I met Jolil White. I'm not, I don't mean this disrespectfully.

I did not know it was Urquil. It was like, you know, it was like a dimly, yeah. That's good. Yeah, that's a good joke. But I was, I was, it was a dimly lit room. And I just was me, it was talking to like five guys. And he was one in a group of five that I introduced myself to.

My buddy had brought in like some people. Yeah. And afterwards, they were like, do you know you just met Urkel? And I was like, dude, I'm sure he appreciates that I had no idea because he probably loves going under the radar as most like quasi child stars probably do or or he secretly hate you now like forgets that guy he played me he didn't know who I was I met Chris Long I don't think he was that type of guy I remember him being really nice because I was just judging him as guy number three that I met in a group of five people has his own wee string purple or pro we need to go see him he definitely has

he has his own he has his own strain we need to go we need to go see and I apologize this is my public apology to Jalil White for shaking your hand very respectfully and you know respecting you like I would any other person and not fanboying out at the fact that I just met Urkel. Yeah, Erkel can definitely ball if you've ever watched the one episode

of Family Matters. The other thing that Ice Cube brought up was Ramstein or Ramstein. Incredible. However, however you say it. Incredible. That was me back. That was the moment, bro. 13 year old me was like, what? You interviewed Ice Cube and you guys were talking about

DeHoss Meach? I didn't know Ramstein. I know Lincoln Park. Do you not know Ramstein? No. I'm going to play you Ramstein. You're going to know Ramstein. So Chris used to be like in charge of the boom box in the high school locker room playing football.

Sounds about right. And he would always play Ramstein Duhas before the game on like multiple repeats just over and over. It was like I could hear myself think. Like I would have to leave the locker room. Yeah. Like chill in the way. Is it just like the same type like Lincoln Park like that type of music? It was like I was like I was trying to get the other football players to confess to something.

Like it was just dark and there was heavy metal and it was the same song. And then like randomly we put on last the Mohicans. But then we had some, like I said, we had some ice cube mixed in. But that's so fucking funny that Ramstein came up because I hadn't thought about that group in years. And for Ice Cube to bring that up, that was just the most weird, surreal moment. I don't think I want to listen to anyone that is lighting themselves on fire. I don't know, you ready for this? You never heard this?

Should I have, like, when or why? Do you like to do things fast? Sometimes, violent sometimes? Listen to Eminem for that. You don't know this song? No. Oh my God, dude. This song was made for like fast, violent things, dude.

Like, being on the Corn Tour and family values tour in 1998. We're playing JV or high school football, dude. This was made. No, this was not going on. It was made for pillow fighting. So, yeah, dude, I just love that. And when I was talking about Ice Cube, like, and how diversified he's become in his brand,

I was thinking of a football player comp because you're just like, why not? Let's talk about who the football player version of Ice Cube is. And you guys can tell us, but I feel like it's somebody, who was really fucking good, one of the best ever, you know, was really good in the 80s and the early 90s so that people who are 25 years old now

might not know that person so well within their field of expertise. Somebody who branched out, maybe did some movies after their career, maybe somebody who's chilled out a little bit, like used to be pretty fucking intense, played on like an angry team. And now is doing like Skechers commercials. I was thinking of,

I was thinking about how he was, long i mentioned howie long in the thing it's like howie long was one of the goats at his position ice cube's one of the goats hands down right uh got out of music and i'll take no offense pops but i will i will take boys in the hood over over that thing you do which you know but not firestorm uh but dad did i'm fucking around here dad did movies ice cube did a ton of movies also just underrated by young people. I don't know who that would be, but you guys are free to write the show. I like the Howie Comp. It continues your trend of making cross-racial comparisons, which I enjoy. I'm trying to get into doing that, dude. Yeah, I'm just tired of all this fucking...

Dude, and Ice Cube, amazing guests. It's a pretty fucking huge guest day here on Greenlight. We got Joe Buck coming up. Yeah, no, I know. Cuban Buck. Yeah. Before we get to Buck, you guys want to answer kind of a random question we've got? All right, so this question's been going around Twitter. Would you rather fight an orangutan with a sword once a year or fight a chicken every time you get in your car? So can I just say something, dude? I've been thinking, I've been noodling on this question for a couple of days.

And I came in a day and shout out to one of our interns. He was like, yeah, man. William was like, yeah, dude, there's this question going around. Chicken every day when you get in your car, you got to fight it or you got to fight it. or you got to fight an orangutang with a sword once a year. And everybody in the room was like, yeah, I don't know. We got a lot of stuff today. Yeah.

I'm like, guys, we're doing it. I was like, we have to fucking confront this question. I've been thinking about this thing. And I don't know if I'm in the minority and I'm not trolling here. But I would rather do, I would fight the orangutang one once a year. Then every time I get in my fucking car, I got to deal with a chicken. I hate birds and chickens and shit. They're unpredictable.

about it like this, their little claws, like they'll peck you. That's a free meal every day, though. I don't want to break a chicken's neck, dude. I don't have that in me. I'm not some fucking, I'm not a fucking farmer, man.

Hey, I deal with turkeys. I'm not you. I deal with turkeys. I guess for, yeah, for you. So at the end of the day,

dealing with a chicken every single day, I just look at it. It's child's play. Bro, it's easy. You're eating it. Money. When you were killing all those turkeys for people that didn't listen in the fall or just

just came on board. Nate, once a year. around Thanksgiving. You know some people go to the mall to be Santa. Nate goes to a turkey farm to be the Grim Reaper for a fucking week and gives a bunch of birds the electric chair. So Nate is,

I knew how you would answer the question. But here's the kicker for me, dude. This is the first I'm learning that I get a sword too. Yeah, but you don't, hold on a second. Hold on a second. Do you know how to yield a sword? Do you know how to yield a sword?

No, you're missing the point. you're missing the point. I'm not. You have to defend yourself with that sword. No, I'm saying I thought I could fight the, I was choosing the orangutangang. Arangetangetang's are so pussy, bro. I'll just come out and say it. Arangetans are so pussy that I was thinking that I would fight an orangutan with a sword

and I didn't get a sword. Like I just had to dodge this big slow fuckers arms. That's really the truth. I mean, I'm not trying to throw shade in orangutangetangs. Like I know they're a big animal. I know. I just Google image searched orangutang next day. human. I know they're fucking big.

But there's a reason they're all the fucking nice guys and all these jungle book fucking movies because orangutans are soft. So Nate, Nate's sliding siting with Glenn Taylor basically. Glenn Taylor? Fuck yeah, he is. Chicken slaughter.

You're a monster. You want to kill all those chickens. But orangutans are endangered, aren't they? Dude, I will rope a dope an orangutanang. Anything with a face? I will neutralize that orangutan. Have you seen any of the ring of face?

Have you seen any of danger, motherfucker, dude. I will neutralize him. Have you seen an orangutang's face? I will put him. I will put, I will like twist his arm really hard. He'll miss me. Arangetangs have a face that look like they can take a punch. It's already flat. I'm not talking about taking a punch. What are you going to do

it though? I started going to one of the martial arts last fall. Oh yeah? Yeah, Jiu-Jitsu. I was doing Jiu-Jitsu for over a month. You're going to hip-tosset it? No, I'm going to, I'm going to use its weight against me of which treadmill, please. Okay.

Mr. Orangetang, you will, your fat ass arm, you'll miss me, I'll dodge you, and then before you know it, you'll be on the ground and you'll be neutralized, dude. I'll do that once a year. I'll take a picture with the orangutan once a year and I'll go about my business. You're going to have to kill a chicken every day. Think about when you have kids one day and you're trying to go to soccer practice, dude, or you're trying to go to the fucking, you're trying to go to jump for a birthday party and you've got to get in the car and kill a chicken before the kids can get in. Every time, easy money.

Easy money. Your kids are going to be like, let's walk, dude. It's easy. Instead of them not knowing if dad, if you're going to make it home because you have to fight

a orangutan with a sword. Bro, I do more dangerous stuff now. I just don't tell them about it. It's debatable. I'm going to walk to work in this situation. You're going to walk to work. That's great, guys.

I'm the two roads diverged in a yellow wood. So, anyways I wonder what Joe Buck would do we should ask him well ask Joe Buck I really feel this way dude I really fucking feel this way you think this is a bit I no problem orangutan with a sword he's slow anyways dude bro what why are you saying that they're slow like what is making but here's no here's the thing are we still rolling he forgot this what I was I I was willing to just no hands or no fucking weapon Joe just because you're

willing doesn't mean you're gonna win. Same to you, dude. It's a win. It's talk about winning. Same to you, bro. What about when you get the fucking... What would a chicken do to, like, to, like, you get a virus. Best case scenario from the chicken.

You get the avion flu. They get to poke your eyes out first, right? But then what is it physically going to do? You know how many raw birds you're going to have to handle over the course of your life, dude? And you don't think, you don't think... Hold on. With blood splatter and shit. So you don't think orangutan?

You're going to have to clean your car every day, dude. What happens when the orangutan just shits in its hand and throws it at you and gets all that whatever type of viruses and whatever they can do too it's the same difference what do you think has a higher chance of me of happening on a rangetangetang it's only one thing it's only once you're getting hit the face with the orangutan shit yeah he's probably got to wind up like tim wakefield dude that ball's coming out 45 miles an hour dude you got to deal with the chicken every morning where you find your information like why are you putting this on orangutans they're acting like they're tortoise like why like why are you acting like they're not flawed you're thinking about

imitates reality read i get it i imitate's reality every fucking jungle book you're thinking of a sloth they didn't say sloth no they don't put sloths in the movies bro they put orangutans in the movies bro they put orangutans in the movies bro and when they put orangutans in the movies they're all jungle book name one jungle book jungle book jungle book that every time the orangutang is sitting at the top of some fucking staircase and it's all scary looking and the the kid that's supposed to be like the kid in jungle book whatever that character is in the movie mowgli mobly the mobly of the movie needs help mogli mowgli put some respect on it thinking about catino mobly so fucking that that the protagonist always gets a get out of jail free card by just conquering their fears and walking up to meet the

orangutan who's really fucking docile in the movie art imitates reality except for with hippos so we will ask joe buck joe buck's a thinking man dude he's definitely going to pick the orangutag. I can't wait. The house is going to come down in here. All right. Joe Buck, America's broadcaster.

How fucking, what a turn that is. Ice Cube to Joe Buck. Midwestern 60-year-old men's heads are going to be spinning in St. Louis. Hey, dude. Here's Joe Buck. If you're here in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan,

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not knowing that he's now with this new shiny ESPN gig. He's got to do golf. He's got to do all these sports. And there's evidently a big golf tournament this weekend, and he had to do a megacast of the whole thing. So I was like, you got any time? He's like, well, not much, but I will make. time for you. I don't know if you heard about the whole golf tournament thing.

And I did. And so I was like, this will be great. So Joe's now joining us from his car, which has nice leather seats. It's nice getting, it's nice getting the Monday night job. Joe, how are you feeling? Good. Just, I mean, just to be upfront about all that, I had this car prior to the Monday night gig. But yeah, it's rented. It's a, it's a 20, 21 tourist. Yeah, looks so dumb. So yeah. Hey, first thing, can you help us settle a debate before we ask about golf? I'll just let me.

Yeah, I shouldn't have asked. Would you rather fight a chicken every day you get into your car? Or would you rather fight an orangutan once a year, but you get a sword? And the rangatang has a sword, yeah? Oh, my God. The orangutan doesn't have a sword? Joe, answer the question. What do you think?

I think I get tired of fighting the chicken every day. I wouldn't want to, I wouldn't, I don't care what it is. I don't want to fight anything every, every day. I mean, I fight with my wife most days, but I. So you guys are just dying. No, we're not dying. Dude, I just found out the orangutan tank doesn't even have a fucking sword. We're going to be fine, dude.

That's a bottom five scary primate. That's a bottom five primate. I'm not saying I'm looking forward to the fight with the orangutan. bank. Those things are, I don't know what's, what they're thinking. And the hair on the arms and all that, I, I would have a tough time. I would lose probably. But just out of sheer boredom and repetition, I won no part of the chicken every day. And cleaning your car every day after the battle with the chicken. Look at those leather seats. You're going to fight a chicken in that fucking thing? No. I assume that this is a fight to the death. Yeah, dude. Yeah, well, I don't want to

kill a chicken every day. Not every day. No, no, no, no. That's 365 chickens a year. To the mad, leap years. Think about leap years. Right. I'm like Purdue. What would the play by what would the play? Only Purdue kills chickens

like that. Or Nate, actually Nate is, you don't know this, but Nate, former NFL player, you know what he's doing this time now, Joe? He's sitting in this chair with me, and around Thanksgiving, he murders turkeys at a turkey farm, dude. So, you know which one he chose. But, no, I know which one he chose.

And don't worry, things are going to get better. Thanks, Joe. I appreciate that. Hey, Joe. Working hard. You'll get off that count. Joe, Joe, Joe.

Yeah, no, don't tell him that. Don't tell him that. We like him right here with us. Joe, call like 30 seconds of Joe Buck versus the orangutan. Can you do that? This is the hardest thing you've been asked to do all year. Yeah, sure. In steps, Joe Buck does not have any.

in this fight whatsoever dealing with an orangutan that has a much better reach and just has that look in his eye like he wants to kill. Buck's in this fight against his own will. But hey, the internet said I have to do it. So I got to go do. Oh, Buck has pulled out his sword and has plunged it straight into the heart of the array. The fight's over. The fight is over. And Joe can now get into his car and go on about his life.

For a year until next year. That's awesome. Until next year, folks. Hey, that's fucking good, Joe. That's why you're a pro, dude. You know, you got the Monday night job for a lot of reasons. Many of them being your fucking awesome, but that is icing on the cake there.

I don't know what the next level is, but look out Monday Night Football. Somebody's going to give him an even better job. Oh, yeah. You didn't know. I would maybe the human orangutan fight series. Yeah, honestly, dude, that's what's next, I think. Nate's got to go down to a pillow fighting championship,

which you probably didn't know exists, but that exists, Joe. Calling one of those would be a lot of fun. Yeah, yeah, he's got to go down. That sounds fantastic. Do you get to pick your, choose your pillow when you go into it? No, they're all standard. It's like baseball.

We don't want any pine tar. We don't want any heavy bats. Do you put your PJs on when you do it? No, people fighting like they're wearing UFC outfits and shit. I'm going to be a corner man. I'm going to cheer on a friend. that that does it trying to win a title you know what every day i'm reminded just how fucking dumb the world is this this has now this has been my example for this day whatever the hell day

yeah it's may 23rd it's monday so so i do want to talk about your new gig i'm super excited i think i probably text you congratulations but you know when somebody does something good that everybody's saying congratulations about it's almost a disservice to text them. So if I did, I'm sorry because it's another text you actually have to just say thank you to, but you are great at what you do, and I'm super happy for you and Troy. But

the golf, man, you did the megacast. You're doing a little ESPN stuff. I got to ask you this. I don't watch golf a lot. I do watch during the majors, like sporadically, and I'm getting more into it. I would just ask you, like, you call all types of games. Is it the worst

sport to have a lead in? Like, I know that's not an easy, you know, question, but, you wake up Monday morning, you have a three, four stroke lead Sunday morning. I get that right, if we're covering golf. You wake up Sunday morning, you have a three, four stroke lead. Is that worse than being up at the half in an NFL game? Is it worse than being a pitcher with a lead? Is it worth? And do you feel that as you're calling these tournaments? Yeah, I mean, I think that's the drama that see how these guys can handle opportunity. And in this case, I mean, I know you don't want to get down into the weeds on this with this kid, Mito Pereira.

who nobody really had heard of was ranked 100th in the world. And never won on tour. He joined the tour last July. He's sitting there with a three-shot lead at the start of the day. You know, cameras are in his face. The second he gets to the course, and they've got him getting out of his car and putting his shoes on and everywhere he walks.

And, you know, that little voice in your head, I don't care how great you are. I don't care what sport it is. I don't care what you do for a living. that little voice in your head is always back to going, are you good enough? You're not good enough for this. Are you good enough?

And to answer your question, unlike, you know, joining 10 other guys in an NFL lineup or eight other guys in an MLB lineup or including the goalie, five other guys in the NHL or four other guys in the NBA, it's on you. You've got to pull the club back.

You initiate the action. And any little jibes, or jump of nerves changes your entire swing. And I don't know how you quiet that down. So that's what makes it great for diehard golfers like me to watch these people perform at that level. And Justin Thomas make that shot that he made at 17 yesterday in a playoff. It's like, God, what I would give to be able to do that.

That's what makes it great. So I'm with you on that premise that it might be the hardest sport. to have a lead because it's all on you and there's no place to hide. Well, there's a lot of time to sit with it. I mean, like, there's no, in football, there's no time. You got 20 minutes to think about the lead. You have it to half. I mean, you have, you know, in tennis, I'm sure you're up, but that doesn't change

the way you play really. Boxing, that would be an individual sport where you're like, fuck, if you're up, like, this guy's going to try to kill me or UFC. Golf in a very different way. You said it. Like, you wake up, tie your shoes. You're thinking about, you know, I've worked my whole life for this. I mean, it's, you go to bed.

sleep preferably eight hours, but you probably don't sleep eight hours. And you're thinking about the three-stroke lead you have. It's just very different. And I wonder, you know, like, do you ever feel, who's the worst you've ever felt for? Like, as you're watching a meltdown, calling a game? Like, do you ever, do you actually ever feel for an athlete or a team as you're calling the game? Or you have no soul? Yeah, I think, I think, you know, in baseball, there was a young guy, he's out of the game now, but at the time, he was a young guy, Rick Ankeel, who got the yips. And a guy that could throw 99 miles an hour and, you know, knock something off the end of a bat if he wanted to or, you know, bend off, snap off a curve ball. It would buckle your knees.

All of a sudden couldn't throw the ball of the plate and is bouncing it and throwing it six feet over his catcher's head. It's that kind of stuff for John Vandeveld. I wasn't calling it, but when he blew the British Open, which the hardcore golf fans called the Open, it was hard to, it was just sad. It goes from, man, this is awesome. Great competition. May the best person win to, yeah, it's just uncomfortable to watch.

And that's how I was with Ankeel, who's been a great friend and is a great dude and had a lot of stuff going on in his life at the time. And he just, he sprung a leak. I mean, he just was misfiring, and he could not, for the life of him, get the ball of the plate. So it's more when people can't do what they roll over or get out of bed and do basically in their sleep. And all of a sudden, that skill leaves them. And they're on a national television audience.

They're in front of that. They're in front of a packed house. It's just, it's hard to watch. And if you have a soul, it's just like you want to help them or go dig a hole so they can bury themselves, but that doesn't work. But you just call the game because you have no soul. You just, you just narrate it. You're like, God damn, this guy can't do it anymore.

No, Markle Fultz is one that comes to mind for me. It's basketball. It's a different sport. But when you were talking about Ankeel, I'm thinking about him. For a second, I was thinking about Ben Simmons, but it's let's not. Markell Fultz, his shot completely just disappeared. Like, he forgot how to shoot a

basketball. That's got to be terrifying. Like, you know, that's the flip side of playing sports. People always ask, like, what's the you know like you got the best lives all this stuff i'm like yeah but on the other end of something if i'm bill buckner one day like if i get to realize my dream and i'm minutes away from champagne and all that shit and i can for the rest of my life i can be scott norwood you know and that's like the toughest that's sports that's the fucking trade off yeah no and and i think that's the right word that you use terrifying it's terrifying it's terrifying while it's going on and then it's terrible you know

in this day and age it's terrifying in the aftermath with all the people that feel like they're a part of it that are fans that are sending you hate mail and hate tweets and death threats and all that. I mean, it's crazy. So the pressures ratcheted up anyway. And then that mind takes over and that little voice of doubt becomes louder and louder and louder and you can't perform. And my God, it's just got to be the worst feeling in the world. I was thinking about Danny Green. And I was thinking about like missing that shot, the Lakers, got, you know, he's on the Sixers now. So I think you got to really worry when it's not the direct messages, the fucking real death

threat letter. Like, if you get a death threat letter in 2002, like somebody went U.S. postal to send you a threat, like, you got to go see the authorities. I think, like, if you get one of those, like a real physical note, that's a bad deal. Joe, you've been announcing games for a long time. Have you ever gotten death threats? Have you ever gotten a little something in the mail? No, let's not give people ideas, Chris.

Let's not give people ideas. The whole, you hate my team. Fuck you. Why do you hate the Yankees? Why do you hate the Red Sox? Why do you hate the Eagles? Why do you hate the Phillies? Why do you hate that?

And then comma, I'll kill you. Yeah. No. No. Not that I've seen. That's good. Yeah, I don't go searching for it. So maybe there are.

And, you know, I don't even want to talk about it. But if I, if it's like if a tree falls in the woods and nobody's there to hear it. Yeah, exactly. It doesn't make it sound. Yeah, absolutely. Somebody does that to you and you don't ever see it. Does it have any impact? I would say no, unless somebody follows through on it.

I would imagine people would be aware of it around me. Yeah. But, you know, I think sanity takes over at some point. You hope when you realize that the person calling the game really doesn't care who wins or loses. And that's legitimately how I feel. I just want to see a great game. and then that we have nothing to do with the outcome of the game. I mean, it's absurd.

So, you know, turn your volume off or turn the TV off and listen to radio. But you're about to call some Miami Dolphins games, Joe, so things are going to change here. I mean, those fuckers are crazy. Their fans are insane, dude. They're not on our schedule. They're not on our schedule this year. So I only have four years left after this.

There you go. So how does it feel, man? like, like, you know, for so many years, you're like the voice of Fox. Like you, Troy, you know, obviously got to know you guys through working with my pops and that sort of thing. Just good people in a family. And, you know, like the business is the business. You get great opportunities. You wake up one day. You're playing for a different team. Is there an adjustment period? Is it fucking weird? Are you just all 100% excited and jacked up for this opportunity? Because me as a fan, I'm excited because I like y'all's team. I like y'all's

booth. And every Monday night, I'm going to get to watch you guys not only succeed, but I'm going to enjoy the game more, I think. So nothing against anybody that was, but I just really liked those two guys. So how did you feel, did it takes them getting used to calling yourself like ESPN's Joe Buck? I mean, it is weird. I'm not going to lie, because I've spent, I've been on Earth for 53 years and 27 of them have been at Fox. So over half my life, I've been there. And I started there when I was 24. It's when I, addition and I've, you know, been there. I've grown up there. And with regard to your dad and Terry and Jimmy and everybody, I mean, they're great friends of mine and producers and directors

and all the relationships you make. That's the part that I'm going to miss because it's all about the people. It, you know, it's not really about the network, but it is exciting to start over and to get kind of the creative juices flowing again and, and, and, and, new friendships and see how much I can grow and see if I can get where I can get better and to do this on Monday night. So I'm for as weird as it is, it's that plus exciting. And I, I mean, it was the right time to make a move and to get to do it with Troy where we don't get split up. You know, I want to, I'm, I've been doing this long enough that I want a known quantity next to me. And that's him. We've been together for 20 years and, you know, now this will be

21. And to be able to do it with my good friend is exciting to me. And, you know, our good friend, David Hill, he was one of the, you know, he's a guy that built Fox Sports. And when I talked to him, when I was making this decision to leave, he said, you've got to go. It's time. It's been too long. And you got to, you got to change is good. And you're going to be nervous before your first broadcast and that's good and it leads to different things and and and that kind of sealed the deal for me so yeah I'm I'm excited I'm gonna miss people but you know they're just to text your phone call away yeah man and I wonder how how different the job is is it different at all is it just hey like it's I know you get to know your production crew I know you get to know the people behind

the scenes that people at home don't get to know and like there there might be an adjustment period as you learn how people work there the way that shows you're show is produced and maybe some of the more the minutia kind of stuff that we as fans don't think about. Are there differences or is it just, hey, the games on Monday night? Yeah, I think it's that. I think the one thing that Troy and I have to avoid is trying to be different than we've been.

I mean, they hired us based on what we've done and who we are and how we relate to each other and the way we see a game. I can tell you that, you know, ESPN coming there. I know we're in the honeymoon phase. I'm not dumb. I mean, that stuff, that stuff wears off after a while. But they're like, whatever you guys have always done the game, that's the way we want you to do the game.

Whether it's with regard to meetings versus conference calls or when you guys show up or, you know, how you like things, the booth set up, or however you want it, we're going to do it your way. And, you know, that's to their credit. It wasn't like, hey, well, you're at ESPN now, man. you've got to figure out how we do it. It was more like, how can we make this what you guys have always done? So we met with our producer and director in St. Louis

a couple weeks ago. They're great dudes. The producer, Phil Dean, is a special guy. You can tell already. Jimmy Platt's our director. I can't wait to go to work. And that's why I did the PGA megacast. I was supposed to go on a golf trip

and they asked me to do it. And guilt took over. I was like, they're paying me. I'm not doing anything. It's time to go to work. And I wanted to be on camera with ESPN in front of my face. And it went well. And I'm glad for that.

You talk about Brady. Like you've been asked about Brady probably a thousand times already. I got a question for you. Tom Brady, and I brought this up initially when he got the job. Can you imagine him and Belichick in a production meeting together? Yeah. That would be odd. That would be odd.

You know, first of all, you played with him. I covered him. Yeah. I would never bet against the guy. Yeah. In anything. In anything. I mean, you know he's going to work.

You know he's going to give it everything he's got. Except when they played the Saints last year, I shouldn't have bet them money line for a car. Yeah. That was a problem. Yeah. I don't know. I don't know why the Saints have the box number, but they do. Yeah.

But, yeah, I would, you know, Troy's talked about it a lot. And so I'm kind of stealing his line. here. But knowing football is down the list of what you need to be and do when you're calling a game. It's a different thing. You know, you have to make a point in a short amount of time. You have to see the game differently. You have to be, you know, almost proactive. And you have to kind of grab it and go. And so, you know, that's the transition that I'm excited to see for Tom Brady. if it takes five minutes or if it takes five years, nobody knows.

Nobody's ever seen him or heard him to a game. But like I said at the top, you know, I would never bet against that guy. So it'll be exciting when he gets into the booth, provided he takes that step. And, you know, if he does,

I think Fox made a hell of a hire after we, you know, left and went to another network. Also, the security that Fox got skipping the line to have, him. I mean, like, who knows? They don't have to deal with the rest of the market. He could play another three, four years, right? So, I mean, it's exciting for Fox. You just sit there and watch this guy and

know that he's going to be sitting and share with us. And yeah, it sounds like a lot of money now. And who knows what the money actually is, but that market could change like drastically in the next two years. And it doesn't look as fucking crazy. It's a lot of money no matter what. But it's a lot of money and there's only one him. And I think that's kind of what he's getting paid for in this ambassadorship or whatever it is. It'll be interesting to see how all that takes shape. But I guess that's what it took to get him to commit to, again, if he does games, he will do them there. But if he plays three or four more years, you know, who knows? At the end of that, he may go, you know what, I'm tired. I want to take a year. I'm going to travel with my family.

and you know who knows when that day finally comes but when it does I'll be right in front of my TV watching like everybody else to see how he does because it'll be excited a little more football here and this could be some bad news for you and you know it's tough for us all to hear that that the Washington commanders might be building a new stadium that beautiful field at FedEx field that Palace in Landover I mean you know I love it when somebody says we're live from Landover I feel like it's fucked up that stadium is fucking up. There's piss coming out of the pipes

on the fans and there's all types of things going on at that stadium. Do you have, without shitting on that field, might be too soon. I mean, that I didn't even know that was the case. I'll take your word for it. Well, you're up there in your ivory tower up there with coffee and experiment

in a wicker basket and snacks and famous famous cookies and shit. But no, everybody else is slumming it. What's the worst stadium to call a football game at? Can you tell me, if it matters, if it's a new stadium, it's an old stadium, like, dude, are they all kind of the same for you calling a game,

or do you have stadiums you like more than others? I mean, they're all pretty much the same. What I, you know, what I require of, what I hope for in a stadium or in a booth is kind of along the lines of what I want in a hotel room. I want it to get cold and I want it to be dark. And I wanted to have decent pillows. That's it.

I don't care. I don't care. I don't care where it is. I don't care what the room service menu looks like. I don't care. I just want it to be dark and I want to be able to get sleep. And for me, in a stadium, these stadiums are all so nice now that they all kind of blend together. But the part that I'm talking about is I want a bathroom at least near the booth.

Right. Because I've been caught, like I think it's Cleveland or Cincinnati. where you have to do about a 300-yard sprint to get to the bathroom and back in two and a half minutes. And it's a tall order for me in a suit. I look like OJ jumping over suitcases, rent a car from Hertz. This is the free that stuff, OJ, if you remember. And Lamar, I think, had to, Lamar Jackson had to do the same shuffle to the bathroom in Cleveland. So the same problem for the players as well.

Yeah, that's all I care about. Like, if I can get to the bathroom and I can get back to the front of booth and I can see the field, I really don't care. Okay, a couple things baseball here. You've seen Yadi and Albert Pujol's pitch in one week. It's so weird. What's going on, dude? I mean, and they were pitching with big leads.

Typically, that happens in baseball when a team's just getting blown out. They don't want to waste a reliever. But, you know, I love it. it. And I love it that the other teams didn't have any problem with it. You know, the unwritten rules get changed every once in a while. And you could see somebody in baseball going, oh, man, that's bullshit. You got, you're showing us up. Albert Pujols is pitching. Meanwhile, I think it was Evan Longoria got a base hit against Poolews and asked for the ball. So, I mean, they, they embraced it. And, and the same Yadi pitched. And, you know, these guys are, this is their last dance. You

know it's not Jordan and crew, but it's Pujols and it's Molina and maybe Wainwright. And they're enjoying their last year and they're a pretty good team and they're having fun. So I credit their first year manager, Oliver Marmal, with letting him do it. I think it was kind of cool. Bro, Albert Pujolz left St. Louis, his restaurant closed down. John Jay played an entire career, basically, because he's retiring this year. and then Pujos comes back and pitches in a game.

You can't make this shit up and Yadi was there the whole time. Yadi's a legend. It's cool. It's hard not to get. We were discussing that bug last week and I was saying I was resistant to the bug because everybody's like, you have to.

I get the baseball heaven thing and all that stuff. Now I also get people that are like sick of hearing about the Cardinals. It's like the Yankees Midwest a little bit. Yeah. And the whole Cardinals way and all that. But there is some truth to the way visiting players are treated here. And it's, yeah, I think it was probably best seen in 2004 when the Red Sox won the World Series for the first time in 86 years.

I've talked to so many Red Sox fans since then who said they flew to St. Louis because, I mean, it was for 86 years. They're going to be there. If they can get there, they're going to get there. And I know a lot of Red Sox fans that have come up to me knowing I'm from St. Louis that said, I was in that stadium, you know, their team, the Cardinals were down three games to nothing. They're winning game four. And to a person, they said Cardinal fans were buying them beers and like saluting them and cheersing them because it was history. And they knew how much it meant to Red Sox fans.

So, you know, the whole Midwestern gentility and all that stuff, you know, I don't know. Every fan fandom thinks their fans are the best. But you know, Chris, you were here. I'm literally four blocks from where you played. I'm in downtown St. Louis. There's not a whole hell of a lot going on around here. They don't have that roped off, Joe, where we played.

They don't have the Edward Jones dome, like, roped off like a movie set out of respect. Yeah, no, they should. I mean, considering, you know, Kurt Warner's movie and everything else. But now it's like the site of American gladiators and truck and truck. Monster trucks. Yeah, it's total module truck. All right.

So then last question, world series. You've been doing them for a long time. I know it's got to be special. You know, like you're really resting this year during the World Series, right? I mean, like, what the hell are you going to do? Give me your dream. Like, I want to be here watching the biggest game in baseball. I would like to be in Cabo, San Lucas.

with a margarita in my hand and a half-smoked cigar watching Game 7 of the World Series cheering on Joe Davis and John Smoltz and Ken Rosenthal and Tom Berducci and Pete Macheska and Matt Gangle and right on down the line but you know if it gets to be seven and nothing and there's no drama left

I'm going to have a really good time turning it off and who's up 7-0-0 in the world series game 7 over who man it's got to be a new york team the way they've started this season the mets are great the yankees are great i leave and the new york teams are good again but i you know it i loved it i don't feel like i leave any unfinished business there and this is the first time uh since i was 18 years old and i'm 53 that i'm not doing a baseball game. And that's that's really weird to me. But, you know, I walk away really proud of what I and we did. And, you know, it's time for somebody else. It's time for somebody else to put their voice to it. And I'm glad to get out of the way for Joe and, uh, and watch him do it because he'll

be great. ESPN's Joe Buck and, uh, that rolls off the tongue, even though, yeah, he's like family to my dad. My dad cries into his pillow at night and everything. But what, Joe, I'm sure. Joe, we love you. We miss you. I'm excited for you, man. This is really cool. Well, thank you. And I was just kidding about the pillow fight.

You go down there and you just, you keep your athlete charged up and, you know, the right arm all loose and ready to throw. Yeah. It'll be good. It's a lot of rotator cuff. All right, Joe. A lot of rotator cuff. We appreciate you, buddy. See you.

All right, guys. See you. And Chris and Dr. Fax had just too many opinions on this ring. chicken question. So they kept talking about a good bit. So we're going to play a couple more minutes for you. Like any type of monkey, like chimpanzees, orangutans, you feel like you would win. Like, like, if that happened.

No, this is a ring of tang specific. But like, if an orangutan was attacking Wayland, Chris would beat its fucking ass. Uh, if an, if an orangutan was attacking your kids, that orangutonging's life would be over. Like, it's not a fight. No question's asked. You're telling me if an orangutan punks your girl. an orangutan puncture girl at the club at the bar. And a orangutan?

Bro. We're not going to be near an orangutan, bro. If you're at the airport and an orangutan, cut you in line, dude, you're going to let that fucking aggression stand, dude? You got it. You got it. I'm worried about you beating up that fucking chicken, honestly, if I'm being honest, dude, with that attitude.

I'm just telling you, and you even think about this. Say I'm a dumb ass and I pick chicken. Do I get to have a motorcycle? Can I just get my motorcycle every day instead? No, you have to choke the chicken every day. I'll say, yeah. Nothing has changed. Exactly.

It should be really easy for you, right? Okay. Okay. What are you, a fucking monk? Hey, we got a monk here. A monk in tie-dye. So here's the thing, man. You're talking about a chicken every day in your car.

You're going to have to shop back that motherfucker the whole thing. That's not the point. You guys always move the field goal, like, post on every question. It's just about winning. Like, what would you rather do? You're gonna, like, you're not winning against an orangutan with a sword. You're not. Aragatang, bottom five.

Rangetangs can swing from trees and shit. Do you guys understand how strong you have to be to do that? Can you swing from a tree? No. Are we fighting in the trees, bro? It's like saying, actually a shark that can walk up the stairs, dude. Where are you fighting? I don't care, dude.

But where are you fighting at? We're fighting in a fucking room, dude, with no trees. And orangutan can jump in this fucking studio. Okay, so what are you going to do when it jumps up there? Oh, it probably drop his sword. On your head. I was ready to fight this thing, raw dog, no sword. Now I know there's a sword involved.

I'm impaling this fucker, dude. Yo, you're sick. I'm impaling this fucker, dude. You're cleaning your car every day. You're worried about, yo, bro. You got to take a client. Remember the other day you said, you know, you think I forgot this? I asked you what you, we asked what you would do if you didn't play football.

You said you would start a business and drive rich people around and give them all your ideas, your entrepreneurial ideas, right? Try that with a chicken in the car. Sorry, I got to murder this chicken and then I'll pitch you my app. Yeah, and I might try to sell it to him first. I'm out, dude. Yo, I might try to sell them to them first.

Bro, this is a farmer's market area, bro. I can kill that chicken and bring it to the farmer's market and sell it right away. People pay more for chickens depending on where they live. You don't think people are going to be freaking out when they find out they get killed by a guy in the back of his fucking. Chrysler? Not true.

Fresh. He's like totally fresh. Organic. Organic and fresh. It's an organic chicken, bro. Bro, I'm telling you, people... But not the way that they want it, though. They want organic. They don't want organic killed by an Uber driver. You know, killed by a podcaster. I mean, I think that that makes it even more organic. It's local, homegrown. I don't think so, dude. I think he has...

Hey, I think the new intern is my thinking. This is a great idea, by the way. So thank you for... This is your first day in studio. We know a thing or two about homegrown around these parts. We do know. I can't say anything about that. You see how nimble I am? See how nimble I am right here? All right.

So you did ask Cube about. I know, but I remember if you'll remember. Ice Cube exception. Guest. No, I say guess we can always talk about it. See, I'm a lawyer, dude. It was in there. I'm a stone lawyer.

But I remember. You did say that. You do say that. I'm happy. Oh, fuck. That's $100. Yeah, Wien guy. That's, no, that's a fine, dude.

I'm being real. I'm being accountable. Is that talking about weed though if you're just saying that you're stoned? Yes, dude. Yes, that's $100. I will pay up. All right. I'll add it to the bucket.

That's just for you, right? Hope you guys enjoyed that show.