Green Light with Chris Long - Jaguars' Statement Win, Patriots Rally & NFL Playoff Outlook | NFL WK16 Reactions

Episode Date: December 23, 2025

The NFL Playoff Picture is coming into full view but teams really muddy-ed the waters with the results of week 16 across the NFL. The Jacksonville Jaguars dropped their statement win of the season on the Denver Broncos and now about 5 different teams can win the AFC's #1 seed. Trevor Lawrence and Co showed they are a legit Super Bowl contending team. The New England Patriots rallied behind Drake Maye and knocked off the Baltimore Ravens to stay a game ahead of the Bills in the AFC East. The Pittsburgh Steelers held on to win a whacky game in Detroit, earning our Hemingway moniker but today DK Metcalf found out that he will be suspended for the final two games of the 2025 NFL season. The Chargers, Texans and Bills all won over teams already eliminated so they could keep pace in the playoff race. And in the NFC, the Eagles took care of the Commanders on Saturday afternoon to feel better about their chances in the playoffs. The Bears had a miraculous comeback against the Packers to further solidify their claim to the NFC North throne. And the fellas breakdown the wild NFC South, a division that both teams, the Panthers and Buccaneers, both seemingly don't want to win. (00:00:00) - NFL Week 16 Reactions: Dawg of the Day (00:07:50) - Best Flight (00:14:30) - Jacksonville Jaguars at Denver Broncos (00:38:30) - Worst Flight (00:43:00) - Chicago Bears vs Green Bay Packers (00:57:45) - Philadelphia Eagles vs Washington Commanders (01:08:45) - Carolina Panthers vs Tampa Bay Buccaneers (01:26:35) - New England Patriots vs Baltimore Ravens (01:36:00) - Pittsburgh Steelers vs Detroit Lions (02:04:00) - LA Chargers vs Dallas Cowboys (02:11:30) - Buffalo Bills vs Cleveland Browns (02:19:55) - Houston Texans vs Las Vegas Raiders (02:24:00) - Bermuda Triangle Games: New York Jets at New Orleans Saints, Atlanta Falcons at Arizona Cardinals, Kansas City Chiefs at Tennessee Titans, Minnesota Vikings at New York Giants and Cincinnati Bengals at Miami Dolphins (02:45:30) - Locals Landline Presented By Zone (02:50:40) - BetMGM Moments (03:29:45) - MNF Preview: San Francisco 49ers at Indianapolis Colts Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Also, check out our paddling partners at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Appomattox River Company ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: If you want some Black Friday merch, check out our sale:https://greenlightpodcast.shop/?fbclid=PAZnRzaAOR1RFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA8xMjQwMjQ1NzQyODc0MTQAAad3Jup6i1N2qH77pK8eUeSbKt2Y0OXMldIw1dRTq_xDRuY3Ctp99Qj4pfyGAw_aem_w9tp_XwGL-ZptFIHvlrM1g Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

The quarterback doing his job over the last four to six weeks this season, he deserves a lot of credit. But Liam Cohen deserves a ton of credit, as you pointed out, and what a difference of coach makes. Nobody's throwing the ball better than Justin Herbert, considering what he's got to deal with. I think for the Patriots, really good to find different ways to win football games. It was the right call. It's just like the NFL can't get out of their own way on the presentation of getting the right call. Welcome to the show. This isn't how I expected to start.

Dr. Fax, I had the whole front of the show, like, ready. It was like a runway for him to land the plane and like just shit all over us. And, and talk about the Jags. Like, legit. Last night, didn't we? Yeah. I sat there and I laid the show out. And we were like, I was like mental gymnastics trying to get the Jags first, right? We were mapping out multiple scenarios.

Well, if we put this here, then like, it's there. And then if we move this around. So the show's about to start just 20 seconds ago. And Nate goes to shit, I got to run back out. I got this Facebook marketplace thing. I'm like, wait, right now? I figured he'd be ready, like, in studio, like 6 a.m. just. No, he's had a hectic couple days, but the Facebook marketplace deal.

He's like, no bullshit. This is showbiz, man. This is showbiz. My dog Nate, who, you know, it's his big day. And we've actually, can somebody figure out how long this deal is going to take? Yeah. I'd check him when he'll be back. Do you know?

I do not. Okay. Okay. We can hit the curveball. But the most important thing is. What's the dog of the day? We got a couple dogs of the day. Dog of the day.

Welcome to the preview show first before we give you the dogs of the day. I'm Chris Long. I'm your host. I'm joined by Dr. Faxx, who's doing. a Facebook marketplace deal. And that was incredible. That was wild, dude. That was like, oh, fuck.

We do this ticker here to start the show. Somebody said, Fax buying a two-stroke engine airplane. Oh, love, love my dog Fax. I don't know what's going on. But he sits there usually. so you'll see him in a minute. There's facts. There's Nolan.

What up? Man, the lettuce is looking good today, dude. Thank you. I don't know if you put some extra English on it, but it's fucking... This is the usual English. That's some incredible lettuce there. And then we've got a cowboy sitting there.

He's sad. I'm sad for him. It's a bummer. The Broncos, man, they just... Hey, but we're bouncing back, dude. No one thought we were going to be in this spot? We're going to bounce back. got such a good attitude man bounce back baby it's like my attitude you know that i i absolutely took a

beating this weekend uh bet m gm you know and i i i'll tell you when i take a beating i took a beating last night and it culminated in that sunday night game it's all perspective guys what did i tell you after i lost all that money last night do you remember it's a life lesson you guys let this jewels yeah we just oh uh i do remember you said you said we're all going to die one day that Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. When you start telling yourself that money is a social construct, you've lost some of it. And that's what I was doing last night.

And then we got Tanner behind the... It does help when you're like, damn, dude, that fucking bed-im just took me to the cleaners. Nate said he'll be back in four minutes. Four minutes. Okay, we've got a four-minute countdown until all hell breaks loose in this place. And Nate takes us through the ringer on this Jaguars win. But Dog of the day. Dog of the day.

Let's do it. And Bo's inside the computer. He's, I'm here. It looks like it's snowing. Yeah. Yeah. How's my mic? My mobile setup. Let me know if it needs some work. But yeah, it's a little, you know, we get some white Christmas here in Minnesota, Chris. Oh, this is good. I really like it. I'm in the new house, actually. First time. It's exciting. That's pretty exciting. You get that, that new house smell. Congratulations. Congrats, Bob. Congrats. Thanks, guys. Finally a homeowner. Yeah. So anyways, we've got dogs. So anyways, we've got dogs. of the day. Let's hear it from our four-legged friends. That's what the audio's under it. He's slamming those. I don't know. I found this dog on Instagram. We can't use the Phil Collins that he was set to. He's closing all these cabinets.

You can imagine what it would sound like. Look at dog. We're not going to have a real dog in here every day. That gets tedious unless the locals. And I mean, like, truly the locals, I'm not going to fly anybody in to bring their dog. But if there's anybody that lives in Central Virginia area that wants to put their dog on a moderately successful podcast that runs live at 3.45 p.m. on Monday. You can bring your dog in. We're not going to let you stay long. But bring your dog in. Get the dog on the show. I've got another one Reed sent in.

Oh, you got another dog of the day from Cowboy? This dog's crazy. Yeah, I hate it when my dog does that. It's the worst, man. That's the type of shit Willie does. also i got willie down in the corner if you oh you got willie in here today it's my favorite picture of willie of all time oh let's see it it's down in the oh yeah there's willie yeah he's just like man i just i just ate a pile of shit uh outside and i'm wondering if you'll pet me for a while

no i'll just stand here uh anyways dog of the day i want to give credit to the jam you dukes uh because they're our dog of the day they they covered this weekend i didn't watch a lot lick of that game. I put it on split screen because one of my buddies wanted to see it out in the field. That lasted one possession. Oregon just like, you know, like it was ugly,

wasn't it? Yes. Yeah, well, the first half, ugly. But the second half. Boy, did we cover that second half. And dude, we kind of blew the Oregon breaks off that second half. Really? Yeah, yeah. You the second half champs. Dude, we were dog walking home.

So what was... If we would have played two more quarters, we would have won. You think show? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. What was the biggest deficit in this game? It was 31-3 at one point, I think. Yeah, 31-6 at half and then 31-3 at one point or two. It was so close to 28. It was a sixth quarter ball game.

Yeah, exactly. Well, shit. We'll talk about a game like that in a minute with the Bears. Yep. But hey. Only there's a fifth quarter. More yards, more time of possession. We scored more points than any other team.

You really hang your hat on that. Dude, we did. We did. That's great, man. Way to ruin it. for all the other mid-majors. The train guy made it out there. Yeah, the train guy made it out there.

We were talking to on Friday. He made it out there. I'll say it one more time. Way to ruin it for all the other mid-majors. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yep. It's like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

No more. We've been after that. It was a good run. We've been after that Boise State Statue of Liberty thing since it happened. Ever. It's just, it doesn't happen as much in football. No. In football, the 16 doesn't beat the one.

No. In basketball either, usually unless you're playing Virginia. but but yeah no that's a tough i mean i'm glad you guys covered but that's a tough deal this is a tough deal i haven't watched a lick of college football playoffs yeah shout out to the dukes yeah shout out to the dukes um dog of the day now we're going to open the show with uh best flight because nate wants to give his best flight to dovo you guessed it as soon as he's done with his facebook marketplace deal that's going on in some alley out of outside. He'll be back to do his best flight. But why don't you give your best flight? Just throw your name in the hat. We're not going to win.

I mean, I think the moment fax gets back here, we have to tell him that all the Duval discussion is over. But my best flight, I'm going to say, I'm going to say the Patriots. Like they're leaving Baltimore. It's a pretty quick flight. Kind of wrapped up the AFC East. It's a good little win for them last night. I like that. That game was pretty fun to watch, actually. So I'm just, just going to keep it simple we'll go to pats best flight love it that's a good one that's a real good one um well you know i probably won't win but i figure fuck it why don't i throw my my my submission in the in the bucket or should we just wait how far away is he uh he's he he hasn't said anything in so he's probably loading that in you go ahead we should make him wait until probably where we were going to talk about the jags right you know we spent a lot of time last night if If he's not back by the time you guys have done your worst flight. Oh, worse flight.

Yeah, yeah, do worse flight. And if he's not back then, then we're jumping. Okay. Hey, you're going to lose you. Nobody, don't let anybody say that, you know. We're looking out for him. Okay. Well, let's see how this best flight does relative to Jaguars.

You know, when Michaela Benthos was severely injured in a mountain bike accident seven years ago, she thought her days of adventure might be over. Then everything changed. Just this week, she became the first wheelchair user in space. Launching from West Texas's Blue Origin headquarters via Jeff Bezos. Yes, Michaela, a paraplegic, ended up in space. Holy cool. She said, quote, it was the coolest experience.

Man, good for her. Yeah. And she also said, and I quote, I really hope it's opening up for people like me. Like, I hope I'm only the start. So thank you. for that, Michaela, and I submit you as best flight. We'll see how the judges feel like that stacks up against the Jacksonville Jaguars. Jags overcame a lot this week, but I don't know if they overcame what Michaela.

Really putting the judges here in a top box. Fax said he's coming back in now. Well, he better hurry up. 10, 9, 8, 7, 6, 5. I can't wait until he gets back and he's like, I got to win best flight. I'm like, ah,

I picked the paralyzed gal. I want to know, like, what the fuck he's buying? What is he buying or selling? It was a stroller? Some sort of a stroller. Yeah.

It's dad's stuff. Oh, here we go. Here he comes. Coming in hot. Fax get ready. Or chat, get ready.

Chat, get ready for facts. Someone said he's buying a T-Law reel doll. Oh, my God. Welcome to, welcome to the show. Here he comes. Here he comes.

What is you? Facebook Marketplace, huh? Yeah, man. Pulled into the Water Street Garage. What's up, everybody? You have the floor. What's up, everybody? You have the floor.

Oh, already? Yeah, already. The show's been going for 10 minutes. Best flight. Yeah, we got a best flight from it. Best flight. You know that, flying from that big market airport to that small market airport. Oh, man.

that feels so good to go from the cold. I don't know how warm it is in Jacksonville, but definitely warmer than Denver, Colorado, going there and just crushing all those fans. What a great, that has to be the best flight. And this Trevor Lawrence is looking at all the memes and going through his mentions of people backtracking. Yeah.

And now saying they have to go back and watch him play, that's got to be the best flight. That was a good flight. And then when you go to Jacksonville, if they still do it the same way, it's like you land right into that small airport. Yeah. And all our cars is in this jet hangar. Oh, the cars are in the hangar? So it looks really, it's like a cool setup.

Everybody's car looks cool under that. You know, a lot of like the red guys. You see those nice cars. Yeah, they're always indoors. Yeah, there's a park there. So that's like the best getting off that, getting off that plane and just seeing your car. And especially they're on what? Like, how many games in a row is in now?

Losing track. I, shit. This is your segment, you know. Losing track. No, but it's exciting to being a Jaguars fan and it's just fun now, just kind of being the hunted. Yeah.

You are officially the hunted now. It's six in a row, though, you huge Jaguars fan. Six in a row. Yeah, I mean, 12 in a row. Did you guys really think you were going to get 12 years? You did. You did. That's why it feels good.

That's why it feels good. See, he was. He was going to make it, you know, he was going to take a shot at you. And then he was like, let's keep it about the Jags, which is what it should be. The Jags played their asses off yesterday. They just showed up and kicked their ass. And we will talk about the Jags. I want to give you the floor to talk about anything else Jags related before we get to the breakdown.

Jags is going to the Super Bowl, bro. Okay. You're feeling soupy? They're going to the Super Bowl. Okay. I'm just loving the way Liam Cohen is just, I feel like he's mastermind right now. Like, it's just, it's incredible seeing them play. And I just feel like yesterday just shows more, like, how great Leon Cohen is.

Because I definitely thought it would be a run-dominant game. Mm-hmm. And it wasn't. Yeah. And I thought it should have been. But the fact that we still put up, we just turned the tables to just putting up points, bro. Like, seeing, seeing 30 points and looking, and it's the Jaguars having 30 points, multiple games. like every time you watch them play like holy shit i'm going to change the show okay okay because what we

were going to do right now is we were going to go worse flight and then get into the nFC and then start the aFC with the jags but we're not going to do that we're going to break this game down right here let's do it instant breakdown alert how good does that feel uh sudden change coming to you live from the top of the show oh a team's won six straight. Let's talk about the Jags. Okay, here's what I'm impressed about with the Jags. And we talked about this Thursday with, you know, you look back at why the passing games improved so much. You knew from the beginning of the season, hey, they were going to run the ball well. Liam Cohen schemed up the bucks to run the ball really well last year. They obviously

miss him there. You had the high powered wide receivers outside. You had Brian Thomas Jr. You had, you know, Travis Hunter, Jr., who, you know, you're forcing in the lineup. I'm not saying it's like a force shot, but like, you know, you know me. I think he's a corner who should have some packages offensively. I think trading, and I talked about this last night, it's not like an intentional trade. It's just you kind of work it out as the season goes on, but trading high ceiling players for high floor players. That gave them the stability, especially in the middle of the field that was on display last night.

It's been on display through this entire six game win streak, which you've talked about, man. But the Jags can do all this stuff. stuff I'm about to list. And this is why they're a complete offense right now. Number one, they can play the high, low game. We've seen that lately since Jacoby Myers got there. We've seen it with Parker Washington. You saw it last night versus zone coverage. You can play the high, low game in the middle of the field. You've got guys that have better feel in zone coverage. You know, before you've got this big, tall, explosive play machine outside who hasn't been catching the football, doesn't want to work the middle of the field. You've got a young rookie who doesn't have the feel for

zone. You bring in Jacoby Myers. You know, he knows how to sit down and avoid. defense. You also have Parker Washington who works really comfortably there. You have Brenton Strange who was hurt for a little bit. It makes a lot of sense why it's all coming together now. And then you have a quarterback who can make the throws versus off coverage

outside. You've got to have a guy that can get the ball out there with Zip. And that's one thing you never doubt it when it comes to Trevor Lawrence is the ability to put Zip on a football. He's throwing the ball outside the number as well. They also have the athletes that are tough tackles on the perimeter. You saw that last night. Riley Moss missed his tackle.

it goes in the low red. You know, you can run the screen game. You know, I think also what they've gotten good at is Trevor, not panicking, checking the ball down. And when they check the ball down, they have the athletes to hurt you. Their checkdowns can be explosives. Not every team in the league is like that. You look at the team that they're competing with in the AFC South, who's going to come in second. Obviously, I don't take this the wrong way.

No. Thank you. But like Woody Marks, he was out. yesterday but even Woody Marks in the game like that checkdown's not going to turn into an explosive ETN getting the football out on the perimeter a swing screen that type of thing they've got the athletes out there they also have the run game to make play action work you saw this last night was strange running by green law I love that that concept where he's basically a fullback and you get the little short motion man indicator and you get him leaking through the A gap and you know you see dray greenlaw he's going to fit that up like it's run and he runs right by him that's a tough look you got scheme

and you've got the players for it and you got the run game for it and I also thought yesterday and this was the the cherry on top the red zone efficiency that was what Denver hangs their hat on and I would love to sit here and say hey it was all scheme but it was the quarterback making the throws you know I think it's it's certainly hunting the matchups but making the throws and the other thing I want to mention is they did a great job of keeping Benito in check. You know, I know he's not the only guy on that defensive line and some guys got home with sacks, but there were parts of the game where I was like, Trevor is not being touched. And that offensive line with a backup left tackle, man, they threw the kitchen sink at him over there. Best story of the year.

Seriously. Best story of the year right now. They're just shuffling the old line and like you see other teams do it. Yeah. It doesn't necessarily always have to work. And it's, been working and that on top of with Liam Cohen I just feel like really having to feel for the game. Yes. And his players and knowing how to scheme up stuff to put all of his players in the best position. I think that's showing. And it's just like, hey guys, like I'm going to put you guys in the best spot. Just go out there and make plays. Like moving the pocket with Trevor this game was huge. Yeah. Like I thought, I mean, they were getting pressure. They were sacking him. getting scared like ah like uh Trevor like you got to do something and then when you seen him start

moving the pocket and stretching stretching out some of these plays and getting guys open it was well there was a point and I'll say this like and there were times where Benito they were throwing so much at him like sometimes they overset him like way overset him have the guard come out and just try to clean his clock yeah and then there were other times where you have the chipper and I think you know, at times as a rusher, you get frustrated. They hunt a one-on-one for him. They move him to detackle. You know, and on that snap, you see Trevor immediately vacates the pocket left.

And in Scramble Drough, which they become good at, Parker Washington, who's running a post, comes back to him. And you get an explosive that way. You also saw late in the game. And there was a period in this game to be fair to Denver, where Denver had a chance. And, you know, you're up to, you're kind of in that two-score-down kind of situation. If you can get a stop, a score, like, whatever it is. Trevor breaks the pocket left because Benito's at this point so frustrated he's just trying to get one

and he's running down that guy's shit and he's not thinking about Trevor's legs are a big part of why they're able to win that football game and so you talk about that the other thing I want to mention not a day where the run game was dominant right not at all I think this play we stuck to it this play for me was my favorite play the day if I was a Jacksonville fan was the toss in the high red that goes into low red it's an explosive on the right side where jacobi meyers gets a piece of benito a solid piece of cooper rather and then fits up on hufanga gets two guys in one play you talk about being willing to do the dirty work everything that kind of encapsulates how they've been playing and why people like me and the other guys in this room are slow to pick up on what they're building

is they kind of have that same vibe that the Bucks did offensively last year. And, you know, the quarterback doing his job over the last four to six weeks this season, he deserves a lot of credit. But Liam Cohen deserves a ton of credit, as you pointed out, and what a difference the coach makes. On the other side, I think Denver blew it not going for it before the half. I think they absolutely should have felt this game for what it was, which was you are chasing the Jacksonville offense.

And I don't want to say, I talk about this whenever we talk about a big game. There's always guys missing. Shit, Jacksonville had a left tackle missing in this football game, right? The lock being in the lineup for Denver affected the middle of the field for them, right? There were instances in this game where I thought they could have been better there. But I think more than anything, that's just a bad matchup for Denver. If the Russian going to get home, you have. to feel that going into the half and I know they improved in the second half like in

protecting Trevor and that sort of thing but I thought in a ball game where you got a chance for two for one if you're Sean Payton you know better than to a run the ball and third and two get stuffed and then kick from like the 38 yard line which I'm okay with the thing I'm not okay with is before the half not going after that Pat Brian drop because the way Jackson was humming you're going to kick a field goal and they're gonna match that three point output like within two minutes and it kind of negates the whole drive so like for me your best bet would have been to try to score before the half get points for one right get the two for one and then play the game from ahead which i think it might pan out differently but i think sean payton

missed his opportunity there and and did not feel like where the game was the other thing is like sometimes they get wasteful i thought the shot to these are nitpicky things but i thought the shot to Cortland Sutton in the red zone, Nate, and Reed, was wasteful on early downs when you're throwing into a cover two look where you've got safety help over the top. And the same thing, at midfield, when you're chasing a score and you run a reverse of the 50 yard line, I know it's shot zone for you and I know it's there

if Bowdox just makes the throw. But this isn't a time for that. You don't need to get it all back in one play. You need to be in second and manageable. And you end up third and 14 in that. situation. There's just been situations watching the Broncos call games this year, where I think Sean's a great play designer. I think he does a fantastic job. He's beyond reproach, but there are moments where I think they get a little cocky or forget where they are in the game.

Liam made him take his bifocals off. He did. He did. He had the glasses on to start the game, and then he had to take them off. What's that about? I don't know. Maybe a Sean McDermott thing. Say like, fuck it. I'm not looking at these calls anymore. Just, I don't know. Play it by. throw everything out the window. Now 48% of the chat thinks the Jags are the team to beat in the AFC. I mean, I feel like we should be. I mean, if you think and look at anyone else, sorry the Colts, yeah, like they got the injury with their quarterback, but they're not really a team that's looking.

And I just feel like as much as people want Houston to be that team, then they go out and they struggle to beat someone like the Raiders. Yeah, I don't think that's fair, though. I don't think that's fair, though. I don't think, you know, I don't think, listen, we judged Jacksonville off some ugly games this year, and I know they've been playing really well lately, but I don't think the Raiders game is, yesterday's Raiders game is, it changes anything. I think that defense is still that defense.

Yeah, no, yeah, for sure. And, you know, like, for instance, and we were talking about this on the way over, and Bo tap in. But I think the AFC is so interesting this year because it's all. matchup dependent. We were driving over saying, okay, would you be shocked if this team won? Would you be shocked? I wouldn't be shocked if the seven seed beats the two seed, Houston beats New England in the first round, and I wouldn't be shocked if Buffalo beat Jacksonville. I wouldn't be shocked if it went the other way either. You know, the only thing I'd be surprised by is if

Pittsburgh makes a run. You know, like as good as they look yesterday, I'm still surprised if they make a run. Yeah. You know, and New England, who we're going to talk about it a little bit, like They look really good to me, but I would be surprised if they got in the bowl. When's playing game back. Is he getting back? Who, Spillane? Yeah. He'll be back.

He'll be back. So we'll Melton, William. Okay. Like, um, without those two, like, it's scary hours. But other than that, there's not a team in the AFC. There's only one team in the AFC playoffs to start a day that I'd be shocked if they made at the Super Bowl. Like, absolutely shocked.

Steelers. Steelers. The Steelers, right? Yeah. Yeah. No. And that's the, just being a fan and just like, I know I, like, oh, Nate's crazy and thinking about it. But like right now, just seeing how the Jags progress since our

by week, honestly, it's one of those things like you're saying, when you look at matchups, once you get to the playoffs and just win in one game at a time, it's like I really like us against a lot of teams. And the main reason why is, like, it's slowed down as of lately, but our defense gets takeaways. If you can manufacture takeaways and our offense is playing the way it is where we're getting three or seven points on every time we get a takeaway, like that's the way you're going to win games in the playoffs. Right. And I just like our chances with that, the way things that they have been going.

And like, realistically, like, Cam Little is going to be a weapon once the playoffs starts. Like, points are going to be at a premium. And the fact that he can kick 70 plus, like in some stadiums, if the, conditions are right that's going to be huge and it's something that people maybe aren't thinking about right that that is big that's going to be big you look at like we're going to get to the eagles in a second jake elliott struggling right now i see elliott what a what a crazy oh my god missy elli oh easy right now that i hear flowing and i was just like that's a fire nickname because he misses but that's still jake the make to me dude he still jake to make i'm still stuck in

2018 when I saw him kick a like a 65 yarder it was like 100% humidity out there it's crazy but no I mean like you you make a lot of good points the jags and you've been on this thing the jags are legit so congratulations this is a big win for you guys I don't want to congratulate you like this is your Super Bowl because it's not right no it's the jaguar Super Bowl they're you know no no it's not the Super Bowl but it's just funny like thinking that Denver thought they were just going to win how many games in a row like they really thought that hey listen every run ends and and here's the thing with denver they've been they've been in these situations all year and so as high as their their ceiling is their floor is also low you know and um you know when you when you go to the

playoffs like if you're going to be in these close games with every team you play i know it's the playoffs but um they they kind of got burnt for it yesterday like the jags made them pay for what they hadn't been made to pay for at home this year. And I didn't understand why they just, for a team that is known always having to come back, like, why don't you just kick field goals? Why don't you just kick field goals? Denver? Yeah.

See, I went the opposite. I would have said early in the game, I'd have said because of the way your offense played, if I understood, like, hey. And here's the other thing. Like, they can man up. But, like, Denver's been beat in some situations where teams have, in their losses, I feel like they've had a hard time getting off the field on third. That's whatever they play.

You know, the Chargers, the Colts. The Colts dices up on this game here. And so, like, ultimately, and Vance Joseph is a good coordinator in the NFL. But he wasn't like Bill Belichick before he had this group. Right. You know, this is, he's got a lot of privileges out there. You know, and so I think you run into a guy like Liam Cohen and they poke the bear. That's why I love our coach.

She was waiting. I said that on the show. I was like, hey, he said that little small market shit. Guaranteed Leon Cohen will have a response after the win in his back pocket to shoot back to let him know. And, you know, he's perfect for the Jags. He's perfect for the Jags and perfect for Jags fans because they're playing into something right now, which is the nobody believes in this thing. Which I just got to say, like what the fuck else do you expect to start the season?

Yeah. Last year, you're one of the worst football teams in the league. My favorite thing, and I've done it before is a problem. player is like the you know i'm i'm aggrieved everybody's the worst because they didn't see what there was no evidence to see for the longest time and this is the way this thing works but if that's what they got to do then do that brother because honestly that that that shit goes a long way in the locker it's like the small market dig that's such a nothing burger such a but just leave it to him to yeah yeah leave it to him to turn it into something and leave it to my esteemed co-host here

uh dr fax turn it into something Big win. Real fast, I'll ask you guys about a situation. So third and ten, Jaguars have the ball. It's at the Broncos 44-yard line. 244 left in the first half. Ball is snapped. Play is blown dead by the referees.

PJ Locke can't hear the whistle. I get that. I get PJ Locke's side of it. I also get done on the side of it. Have you ever seen a home crowd being so loud that it affects the home team? It goes against the home team. But I guess you guys have all played in those situations where those crowds are going bonkers. I mean, talk to how hard it is to hear a whistle and maybe if there's anything else,

refs can do. I'm not going to lie to. What was it? Maybe Yukon game or UNC game? Chris Long, he won us a game in college, realistically, pumping the crowd up. It was maybe Thursday night and Scott Stadium got so loud. I want to say they, like, they were trying to audible. and the center just snapped the ball in the corner.

It went over his head. No, the quarterback wasn't there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We went to audible and the center snap. Yeah. And the ball rolled out of field goal range. And it was just like, yo, because of how loud it was. It usually goes that way.

It doesn't usually go the other way. And obviously you have your roach penalty, which I thought was a really dumb penalty by him. You know, you can't land on him like that. And he was terrorizing us. He played really well in the past phase, yeah. And, like, that's unfortunate that, like, you wanted to do that. But, like, as a D-Lyman, you know that whole scoop tackle shit, like, you can't do that to a quarterback.

Yeah. Any way you want to put it, any way you want to say, oh, this is the only thing I could have did or whatever it is. Like, you know, you can't do it. No. And it's going to be a penalty. And the good thing for us is, I feel like Trevor is playing good enough that we're going to get those calls. Yeah. Like, not all the quarterbacks always get those calls and we see those plays happen.

And then some reps call it. You've played yourself out of the Bermuda Triangle and into the Jordan rules kind of. And I love it for us right now. So it's cool and it's fun. And it's going to be exciting down the line just seeing how the AFC shapes up. We'll do the voting right now. How do you guys vote on Best Flight? Best Flight.

All right. Tanner, what do you got? I got Chris touching, touching story. Chris for sure. Thank you. I appreciate it. Three. It's a sweet.

It's a sweet. I had a risk of best flight. Yeah, I mean, you had good, that was a good best flight, but like this woman from Germany. Michaela Benthouse. First woman in wheelchair in space. Oh, that's a hard to beat that. Yeah, that is. Yeah, so anyways, I'll take my space.

Can I say something quick? You're super rich. Would you go to space? No, because I don't want to die in a fireball. I don't want to like. If you could guarantee that you weren't going to die. Yes. Like, yeah?

In a heartbeat. Okay, we're right. In a heartbeat, I would go to space. I might not come back. I might not come back. Do the preview from space. But no, there's always the chance that you're like, you're looking at Jeff Bezos one minute

and the next minute you're in the upper room. The upper. Like those people in the submersible, they don't even know their death. You see those TikToks? Huh. It's like, it'll show someone, this is how you disarm someone with a gun.

And then they'll like, show it. Oh, that's hilarious. Yeah. It'll be like, boom, and then you're in heaven. But it all started with the dude, with the, he's wearing all black and he's the like, this is how you disarm somebody. Yeah, the guy's like, yeah, let me try that. And then they Photoshop him in heaven.

He's like, what the fuck? I know the exact one. You wanted to say something. Would you have, Bo? I'm just impressed with Nate's humility, you know? I mean, for a second, I thought you took a victory Monday there on the pod, you know, not show up on Monday, but man, you're really, you're very level-headed on this. pod so far and hey you know that's because he's finally they're winners now they don't have to

act like losers you act like winners when you're winners and now they've crossed they've crossed they've crossing the winner threshold where you know you don't have to think like that like where it's like you know act like i've been here before i have been here now six times in a row you know what i'm saying you guys are winners bro welcome to the winner's circle sean paid after the game oh man what oh man if if you all win the super bowl if If the fucking bills have to go to Jacksonville, the bell to ass is going to be put on Josh. Oh, you think it's going to be ugly, huh? Oh, whee!

Do I ever? Do I ever? I mean, you might be right. I don't think that's a good matchup for the Jags here. I'm thinking about, I'm strictly thinking about now. I think Liam Cohen, like, I think he took what everyone, like, would Andy Reid for the past few years, just being like, Andy Reid is going to scheme up every team. I feel like Liam Cohen, like he is going to show he's going to be that next coach

that everyone, it's really the coaching match. Here's why honestly, because I thought about this, because obviously it's somebody's worst nightmare, you or me, right? But you still have to win the Super Bowl, too, because you just said they're going to win the Super Bowl. So even if I lose that game, I'm going to be like, all right, well, good luck the rest of the way. It's just the bills, all right? But here's why I think it's actually a decent matchup.

So the bills usually struggle with teams that can really strap up outside. I don't think the Jags have a group of corners that you're just like, damn, I can't beat these guys. The other thing is I think the bills can run the football. Like I think if the bills played in that game last night, they're scoring every possession, just like y'all maybe are against their defense. But the one glimmer of hope that the bills have is I think, you know,

they got one of the best nickels in the league. And, you know, I think the guys, the guys in the secondary as bad as they are. They are ball aware. They'll turn some of these things into turnovers. That's my hope in a game like that. You've got to create turnovers, and then you absolutely have to be able to run the ball,

which I think they would be able to do. The narrative no one is thinking about, though. It is. We have a player that basically legally changed his name because of someone on the Buffalo Bills. Who's that? The Josh Allen Bowl. Yeah, obviously.

Yeah, it'd be the Josh Allen Bowl. And when you think about that, I think that guy goes out there and gets three plus sacks in that game. So everyone maybe can change it over and he can be the real Josh Allen again in the NFL. No, but it would be exciting. I think it would take 40 points to win that game. And here's the great thing about it is the way the Jags are playing. I love that. I love a shootout right now.

Yeah. Because it's just one of those things where, like I was saying in the chat, for analytics-wise purposes, we're going to get one or two turnovers. And if, like, we're in a shootout, that means we're scoring. If we get a couple extra possessions, that's how you win a game. What I just said, though, the same way is, like,

you hang your hat on the fact that, like, hey, this has been a great stretch. But it's the fact, too, Trevor in these eight past eight games hasn't turned the bull over. Right, so when does that happen? And does it happen again? Well, you're asking, does it ever happen again? Where as in, you're playing the regression of the mean thing on the opponents,

I think that's the question. If they can keep avoiding the turnovers, there's nothing that's going to get in their waste effects. They might win the World Cup. They might be the best team on the planet. It's going to be so great. Sean Peyton, real fast, Sean Peyton, after the game said they beat us good in all three areas,

and it starts with me. And so even though that hurts going down, you can't spit it out. You have to swallow it. See, on that freaky oyster shit. On that oyster shit. All right. So we got Best Flight out of the way. That is our Jags breakdown.

When we get in the AFC, we'll start with the Pats. But let's go worse flight. What do you guys got? I could start this off. Okay, go ahead. I was just going to say, so I'm looking at the schedule. Look at the AFC, or the NFC West, excuse me. The NFC West, there's a lot of shit going on.

Okay, these are three teams who are pretty good. I think the Niners are sneaky, really good. We saw a great game with the Seahawks and the Rams on Thursday. We're about to talk about that, but this is a tight race. All right? So my worst flight is going to be the Seahawks remaining flights on their away schedule. They got two left. They're going to Carolina.

That's a long flight. It's a good Carolina team that just beat the bucks. And then, uh, and then, and then the Seahawks are going to. two San Francisco to play, I think it's probably the most underrated team in the NFC, maybe the NFL. And that has some big playoff implications, some division, you know,

lead implications as well. So that's my worst flight is Seahawks remaining away games. They got two tough ones. That's interesting. Yeah. Yeah, the Carolina trip's not fun this late in the year for them, but at least they have 10 days. Right now, that race sits at the Seahawks, 12 and 3,

Rams 11 and 4, 49ers who play tonight. they're at 10 and four all three teams are in the playoffs Seahawks had the highest chance to win that division of 55% we'll talk about that in a minute yeah we will yeah it's like my jags which I haven't made a lot of noise about this year but you know I don't know if anybody else picked them to win the fucking division anybody no

we'll just move on to the next thing you're the worst worst flight that short flight from O'Hare back to green Green Bay. Oh, fuck. Wait, what?

Worst flight. Damn, we got the same worst flight. Is that what you put? That's crazy. No, it's the right call, though. It is the worst flight of the week. It is. It's a short flight, and it's one of those things with that rivalry, like, realistically,

it was getting to be like it's not really a rivalry when you win it all the time. So it's just for those guys in that organization to take that flight back to Green Bay from Soldier Field, like after just historically in the past 20, 25, 30 years, just always kind of dominating that game, it just has to feel different. Just for everyone in Green Bay when you're, oh, we always beat the Bears. And just for that game, the way it finished out,

and for the Bears, man, just like turning the page and being on the right end of these last, these overtime games and these game-winning drives and whatever it is, I just feel like that's probably the worst flight. And for how big that rivalry is portrayed to be, this will be a long week for those guys that's usually funning games and extra appearances and things like that because it's Bear's Packers Week.

But this year, that's all going on in Chicago. So I got them as the worst flight as well. That's a type of loss. You just went through it like a week or two ago with the Bengals where, you know, I said those are the types of losses. You can still hear them when you're laying in bed. Like when you lose on the road like that, like you'd be laying in bed that night. You get home.

Well, you know, it could be three in the morning. And if you're Quay Walker or if you're Nixon, like you're replaying that, that bomb to win the game over and over in your head and that's not going to stop for a while can't turn the team no no sporting it's just that place was so loud i remember playing double doink the double doint game there which i feel like is okay to bring up now because you guys are good again but like chicago fans and it was so fucking loud in that stadium i just remember thinking like this is a really tough place to play man if this team ever gets really good he's got the bears gear on deck too that's interesting So even though the Packers are his team this year.

So I think it's just one of those like, that was a Mr. Crabbs situation there where you're just disoriented and you don't know what happened. And it's about as bad as a loss you can have. And it totally, because a minute or two before that onside kick, they're thinking, oh, we're going to be okay. And they're probably right. But are they going to be able to get over the hump?

What a difference. We'll get in talking about the Bears right now. First off, what a difference a year makes, end-of-game situations, close ball games, you think back to last Thanksgiving, right? Where your jaws on the floor. You're like, how could it be worse? Bloodbath of game management. Just awful. Like, you never see it.

And then, you know, you never see it the other way. Like, I've never seen anything like that in my years post-playing as an answer. I've never seen a finish like that. And I also think what a difference five minutes makes. Because, and bear with me, there's going to be some Bears fans here. We're going to be like, wait, are you being negative about my team? I'm not. Because before the on-side kick, this is where we are.

I got a buddy from Chicago who is not a big Caleb Williams fan somehow yet. It seems like confirmation bias. It seems like, well, I never liked the guy coming out. I didn't like the purse. and like the nails he's from california like whatever he's actually from dmv um he you know he's 50% passing through the whole game and i'm i'm trying to convince my friend i'm like no he's really fucking good and you know the game's going to end with him kind of sitting there at 50% and you know they're about to lose to malik willis at home for the division they can't convert on third down

um because dj more's too tired to line up you know Caleb throws it off the goalpost at one point like you rush the kicker out to make it a one-score game and he's taking his sweet fucking time they run it down to the two-minute warning like if that game ends there you're talking about all that there's probably bears fans although i would disagree with them that say oh he's not the guy look he's not the guy like big ball game you know you can't complete 50% of your passes you you know he miscommitt at the pylon like whatever um you know ben johnson big brain ben johnson we get in the fucking red zone we we're falling forward for four yards at a time but we're going to to run Wildcat and snap it through the fucking tight ends legs. Like, or at the end of the game, the clock management that I mentioned, that's what people are going to talk about. They're going to talk about Ben Johnson's quote blew up in his face, like beating Matt LaFleur twice in a season. That's where we're going to be if Romeo Dobbs catches an onside kick.

And I think it's an example of like in sports media, the narratives that we create because one thing changes. And, you know, I think like you gave. Chicago the extra period, the extra frame, and they absolutely seized it. This was an opportunity that, you know, can propel them into the playoffs, like deep into a run. It can propel them into being more confident group. It can propel them into feeling like, hey, it's our division now. And, you know, it all starts with an onside kick. And, you know, like, the last onside kick for Green Bay was that they botched famously. I think it was, it was in the playoff game against

Seattle and it ends with Michael Bostic yeah with Michael Bennett riding around on a fucking bicycle at Lumen Field and I remember like that's the type of thing that happens in that stadium like Seattle's just always got a horseshoe up their ass but um for Green Bay they've been on the ass end of this thing twice and that fourth down is incredible you know the fourth down was movie stuff I mean like it's not a prayer because he knows right where he's throwing it and obviously Nixon probably feels like they buy the exchange there in the end zone, but it's a really tough throw to make. And, you know, I think the running backs deserve a lot of credit for picking up hard yards all game long. But

then in overtime, like to make it second and manageable, make it third and manageable, like yards after contact, those guys ran so hard. I think, you know, you got to give some love to darnell Wright. He was road grading the entire day. But Caleb Williams is a special talent, man. He really is. And, you know, again, like the power of a coach, look what Ben Johnson's done for him and um you know i i think there was a play where rishon gary had him dead to rights on a boot and Caleb did his little step-by thing and i thought to myself damn imagine being a high highly paid rusher who's going to build their legacy in that division you know like you know like a micha parsons or somebody like that or you know um you know john granard or somebody like that where you're

thinking legitimately twice a year i might not get home and i might rush really well but i might miss three sacks against this Bears team because this guy's going to be parked here in our division for the next decade it's going to affect my production as a player for my entire career you know one eighth approximately of my season every year is going to be chasing this fucker around the the the talent that he has it really does shift the the the balance of power and i said this earlier this year now i didn't call them winning the division i had the packers win the division still could happen. But I did say this. If you're a Bears fan, there's no reason to think your quarterback's not the guy in this division in two years. Like I think Jordan Love's really talented.

I think Jared Goff's a great quarterback, but you kind of got the keys to the division if this guy realizes potential. And last night or a couple nights ago was kind of, was kind of that kind of night where, you know, he just, he does magical things. And Dennis Allen's defense, man, that's that New Orleans attitude. You know, and y'all know this from playing New Orleans. Like, they got a bit of a fuck you attitude. And that came from guys like Sean Payton, guys like Greg Williams, guys like Dennis Allen.

He brought that attitude to Chicago. And they've done a great job considering they don't have a lot of rushers, although Montez Sweat did a great job getting home the other night. So, you know, where I was on the Packers before that onside kick was, hey, maybe they can still do this. And, you know, I still feel like they have a chance to win some playoffs. games and you know you never say never because there are other teams in the dance that don't have a great pass rush that we don't hold them to the same standard because they didn't they didn't have a

michael parsons a week or two ago it's bad when you look at it in that right but some of the things that i assumed halfley would do he did and he did them effectively like he blitzed a lot more i said coming to the game if i'm jeffley i'm blitzing on early downs i'm trying to get them into third and longer in a weather game you know the last thing i want is a bunch of third and fours against this group that's really good in those scenarios. So Halfley before the fourth quarter, 58% early down blitz, Halfley weeks 1 through 15, 21% early down blitzing. Now I took the fourth quarter out, and you might say,

well, that's not fair because they're in two-minute mode for much of that thing chasing two scores. Here's where Halfley fucked it up, in my opinion. He sat back and played coverage in the fourth quarter. And, you know, I think they got a little bit conservative, and I think their Achilles heel really showed itself, which is a lack of four-man rush in that football game. And that's how they lose the game.

I also think, and I said this Thursday, and the Malik Willis thing kind of turn it on its head, but you've got to jump this team. You've got to be aggressive. Remember I said that? You have to put this team away because a low-scoring football game slants their way. A game where you score 30 points slants your way.

And listen, I can question some of the red zone decisions down there early. the Malik Willis thing, you don't have control over that. But, you know, that fourth and two, Jordan Love, hitting Christian Watson on the pylon, it ends up being like a 25-yard throw for two yards. I think there are better options in that spot. And I hate to, like, boil it down to one play.

But to me, you had to come away with points down there. You had to come away with touchdowns. And that's what I was saying. It's just like if you're not going to be open to wanting to use Jordan Love, like in the running game in that, like have a package for Malik Willey. I feel like he's proven himself enough that like he can come in in big spots and make big plays. And if it's something that's going to generate extra points for you, like why wouldn't you want to do that?

Like I just feel like it's something that I don't know, like if you're worried about getting Jordan Love like at a sink or whatever it is. But right now, like if you're not getting all the run production that you were getting from Jacobs at the beginning of the year, it's like you guys have to figure out how to generate stuff. Well, the Wilson guy can run the football. And as he came in the game, I thought they took too long getting away from Jacobs. And this is one of those classic things where only Jacobs can tell you how he's feeling coming to the game. And you want to let the player play. And, you know, players, you know, we try to, you know, we try to be our own advocate and be like, hey, man, I can fucking do this. Like, this is why I'm here.

But, like, he wasn't himself. And they were better with Wilson running the football. and I think they took too long to come to that realization. I also think the Malik Willis thing, he's great in short-yardage situations. So you play the game in a way that, like, hey, our explosives are going to be the every once in a while intermediate chunk, or it's going to be a scramble,

or it's going to be a five, seven-yard run. You're going to get into those third and twos, third-and-threes, and he's as good as the starting quarterback in those scenarios is because the first third down, I feel like they had, he pulled the ball. Now it comes down to a quarterback center exchange, which is really a shame because they haven't gotten as many reps. And so, you know, like, do I think the hit was dirty?

Absolutely not. I don't think the hit was dirty. I think Jordan Love lowered his head, you know, which is a natural kind of thing that happens all the time in football. We blame the defensive player. His helmet didn't change levels. But it's an unfortunate deal. and honestly green bay this is so fucked up they they won that game in a lot of ways it just comes down to

an on-site kick and then the bears seize the opportunity so if you're green bay you need to dust yourself off and realize like we can still win football games and we're going to see this team again in the playoffs this is going to be a trilogy um so they can win with malik willis man they only need to win one game if they lose out it's basically a race right in uh to get into the playoffs for the lions of the packers they only need to win one more game. And it doesn't seem like, you know, Jordan Love just, you know, we don't know the extent of his, you know, his injury. I'd only miss one game. So if you, I mean, Malik Willis is a pretty good quarterback, man. I was thinking about this too, Chris, with the injuries to like people like Gardner Minshu, Mahomes, there are some quarterback, you know, positions open across the NFL.

And Malik Willis is an unrestricted free agent. Like, he could go to one of these teams on like a one-year prove-it deal and, you know, kind of be the guy. I think he's pretty. I've been saying this for, well, since last year when he fucking took him to, you know, three straight wins or whatever it is. And, you know, I know I'm talking about they're a little bit more conservative, but he can run a passing offense. He got a great arm. He's a good thrower of the football. They choose to play at a certain type of way. I mean, he's going to throw the ball a bunch, but it's going to be a lot of safe throws.

I think I circle Miami. Like, you know, I've been waiting for them to have a quarterback. I like down there that I can get behind. I feel like Malik Willis could be that guy, especially when you're sitting there in Capel because you're holding on to the last guy you paid. Like, this is a perfect bridge situation. The other place that was brought up was Indy,

but I would love to see Malik Willis down there with Mike McDaniel because it seems like Mike's going to keep his job. And I do think that offense with that run game and everything that comes off with, the motion. Talk about going from a great play caller to another really good play caller. LaFleur to McDaniel, that would be a lot of fun to see.

The other options, obviously, Indy, but I don't know what's going to happen there. Like, that whole regime could change. I mean, I don't know. Well, and in both cases, for Malik, you know, obviously it's a great opportunity for him entering free agency as a quarterback teams are going to want to pursue. But both those locations, let's say, ends up in one of those places. There's good infrastructure there for him. Like, it's not a situation where he's set up to fail. You know, both places have a run game.

Both places have some weapons in place. And you imagine the play callers. So they'd be good situations for him. Yeah, so pride of liberty, Lynchburg, Virginia. We're pulling for Malik Willis. We like him. And so, yeah, if this game happens again, it's going to be another barn burner, dude. It's going to be like another knockdown, drag out, however you want to put it.

I don't, like, I don't think the Packers come out of this thing thinking, you know, if they're mentally tough, I don't think they come out of this thing thinking like, we can't do this thing. But they got to get some better pass rush. And part of it's going to be Halfley manufacturing it. And what you wonder is there was no book on what Halfley was going to do. without Michael Parsons. Chicago's kind of coming into that play into that game blind. Like what does it look like going forward now that you have tape on his tendencies

without Michael Parsons? Can he be kind of shifty enough to stay ahead of the curb over this next month of the season? Bo would you see anything from that game? Stand by one second. What the fuck is that? We got an active construction zone over here at like pushed over at the crib. You know kitchen. kitchen's done so you can tell making but still a lot of other work going on what were you saying

there cowboy no i was just asking if there's anything uh you caught from that game anything i mean just from a macro level i love chicago's ability to like just win games you know what i mean like it seems like so many cases throughout this year they've just pulled a fucking rabbit out of the hat especially at the tail end of the game um looking at the stat right now chicago's sixth win of the season after trailing in the final two minutes in Green Bay had a 99% win probability rate. That's just a great thing to have for a young team with a young quarterback and a new coach

is like just figuring out the ability how to win games. I think that's an underrated kind of thing for the Bears, man, especially like after some of those fucking games they lost last year. The Hail Mary's one and the Thanksgiving one is, you know, just the ability to win games.

That shit goes really far in the playoffs too. No question that, you know, when things get tough, you're not sitting there like man we haven't been we haven't been punched in the mouth like this before they're not that kind of team vying for one seed where you're like man when are they going to get tested you know the way we felt about the patriots before about two weeks ago they're much different where it's like dude they've had to kind of as you put it put pulled a rabbit out of their hat from from time and time so um the other nFC game looking all the way back to to saturday which feels

like a couple years ago um the eagles man eagles repeat as as NFC's champions. That's, I don't know if everybody saw that coming. I know, I know, uh, has happened a long time. I know I'm not that surprised, uh, considering what they had to do to do it. Um, but nothing's easy, man. And nothing's easy in that division, even as bad as the, the commanders have looked. And I told you coming in the game, it's, you know, Dan Quinn has improved that defense.

And this game, it's 10 and, it's 10.7 in Eagles territory when Mario Ta has to leave the game. And then you get Josh Johnson there who actually started my last regular season game when we went to play Washington and sat in the coach's office, that tiny little coach's office after the game, watched Minnesota game to see if we were going to get in the playoffs. We were all huddled around it. We beat Josh Johnson. And then we huddled around and prayed we'd make the playoffs. So, you know, Josh Johnson, we did. Oh, you made it. Yeah, we made it. And then we almost went to the damn NFC championship and like fucking blew the game down in new Orleans but um yeah like i i just josh johns has been a league a long time but but he wasn't going to win that game i mean the the eagles defense

there were some guys on the defense that i thought played really well one of them i just want to shout out as jordan davis jordan davis the the jump he's made in a year like the way he took care of his body this offseason the slim down version of jordan davis has just been so active the run the run fit You know playing with his hands the disruption in the past game. I think he's been fantastic But everybody wants to hear about the offense. Okay, because that's the question mark going to the playoffs. You know, beating the Raiders 31-0. You know, it's great. It's kind of like I'm not going to hold it against them for not beating them 60 and nothing. I mean, that's be fucked up. But you know, again, it is the Raiders and everything. And, you know, it's I'd say the same thing about Houston getting a win yesterday. It's like, that's a little hairy. But looking at the offense, honing in on this deal, I think Jalen had his best throw of the year so far. I mean, like, the one that I really wanted to see, which was the Red Zone ball to Goddard, considering the stakes of the throw and the area of the field and the way he climbed the pocket,

it's playing on time but out of structure, right? And that ball was gorgeous. So the kind of thing I want to see from him, I also love the ball that Smitty dropped in the end zone earlier. he's he's been a fantastic thrower of the football outside the numbers all year what i what i love seeing was off script but decisive and in the middle of the pocket climbing the middle of the pocket to make that throw i thought that was great i thought it was best throw of the year um and i love the empty stuff we saw a lot more empty i don't know if you notice that bow but i just feel like the empty stuff maybe harkens back a little bit more to like what he didn't copy

I don't watch much college football, but like that, that's more of a like air raid kind of spread them out and and just and you've got your options outside. You got great athletes walked up on bad athletes. I say Juan Barclays out there. You might get a, you know, you might get a Christmas present. You might get a bad matchup and and you get more. I don't know if it's more, but we were talking about AJ Brown being in the slot. And I think they're doing some different things with him. I think they're using him as a chess piece a little bit to open things up in the middle of the. field slant hitch go ball that's what Greg Wilson said during the broadcast but it's changed a little bit it's watching him watching him this week it changes a little bit and and and i think that the empty stuff is really good for quarterback run because it allows jail to be decisive and take off you know there's not as many people in the core there's more space and so there was a lot i like you saw that in the in the first half though too i think it was the second quarter they ran uh jailing had a nice scramble i can't remember how long it was maybe like 15 or 16 yards or something like that but i i'm wondering if the empty you know the more empty stuff that they're doing offensively is kind of nix influence on this

offense it feels like it's picked up in the last two or three weeks but kind of like what you're just saying chris when you go empty offensively defensively there's less kind of disguise that you can that you can give pre-stap because you're just spread out you know what i mean and so it does give them a lot of option and then if you're playing zone you know and you have zone eyes defensively you can really get hurt or you know you can really get hurt in the scramble too like I'm saying you're just spread out it's exactly what you're saying but I think the most impressive thing offensively for the Eagles this game they had like what like a 17 or 18 play drive that's more of an eagle's got a drive yeah it just felt good it just felt like in rhythm and you know they got helped out

by a couple defensive penalties from the commanders but like it just felt so refreshing to have a long nice drive with like some just some nice chunk plays in the run game and the passing game and just it felt like it felt like the offense was a lot more settled this game which is I think Eagles fans probably reassured by that I got to go to bat from my guy Jalen Hertz who uh Nate's in the chat saying Trevor's better than him he's definitely playing better than him right now but I think the point most people would say is like Jalen how many Super Bowls does Trevor Lawrence have for six weeks in the past and he did it on the biggest stage you know for me lately i know you're what have you what have you done for me lately god you guys are too the philly fan no no question no question the entire

nphil's here is i just had to call that out you know you can't honestly believe that that trevor lawrence is better than jail and her it's right now men lie women lie numbers dope hey listen listen he to super bowl wins don't lie i don't know why i fed they i fed the troll there but i I fed him. I think I think Bo's a humility compliment for Nate is flip to switch. Yeah, like I was trying to like give you a give Nate a compliment that he took it the wrong way. And now he's like, I'm back. He's back to his old tricks in schemes. I'm humble. I'm not humble. I'm not humble. Fuck that. All right. So, so anyways, I think it was, listen, a lot of Eagles fans want you to say after these last two games like cured, we're back.

I don't know. We'll see. You know, you want to see the offense when it's when it's time to roll, right? The one thing I loved about Sequan and, you know, like, hey, we've had our questions about where he is physically all year. I think you also look at the offensive line and say, like, the offensive line hasn't been as good. But the offensive line was getting more push inside. That's for sure. Some of those double teams were moving. And I know it's the commanders. I know the commanders can't get pass rush. And it's kind of like a good practice day in a lot of ways for an offensive. offense as humming yeah but I think what was encouraging was seeing Sequin break what should have been a three-yard loss for like 60 yep like that's the kind of thing that he did last year you know it was the explosives and you know just getting that on tape like you know giving yourself the confidence to like hey I'm still that guy you know I can still do this thing and to your point about the double teams I saw that too I was curious because that goes back to last week I feel like the interior of the offensive line has been getting some more displacement so I looked at rushing success rate between the tackles. The first 14 weeks the season, 26%. That's not good.

But the last two weeks, that's improved significantly up to 38%. So the interior is starting to start to roll a little bit. Yeah. And, you know, I see this, this Jalen, Trevor debate, which we gave life too, raging on in the, and there's a lot of people saying, well, you know, like, you don't understand context if you think Jalen's better than Trevor. I'm like, Really? Wait. So, so, so this version of what Trevor's play, this offensive coordinator is like having Shane Steichen, right? And that's when you see, I think they're both quarterbacks that depend on the scheme. I think they're both quarterbacks that, you know, there's three, four quarterbacks in the league that I'm pretty confident you drop them into almost any system.

They're going to play really well. Neither of these guys are those guys. but I think Jalen's track record until Trevor goes out and does it in the playoffs it's just not fair it's not fair it's not fair to just be able to say well I've won a Super Bowl but he has you know it's not it's not fair to say well on the biggest stage I caught fire and you know for a month

I was you know this month you had I had it in the playoffs you know coaching and like coordinators matter like Jalen like they always the same point applies to Trevor which is my point like they're not they've had like so many different and nothing kind of clicked they or they had the same coach though at one point didn't they oh yeah oh yeah uh well duggie p yeah they both had duggy p yeah you compare the the the the dougy p eras for those two that's a really interesting one bow but i think more than anything someone in the chat crunch that Trevor lawrence stats with duggy p versus jillen hurts with duggy p it's just funny to hear somebody

or to read somebody who's clearly got a dog in the in the race that's like um or a horse in the race. I don't like dog racing. A horse in the race. Dog of the day, dog racing? Yeah, we don't race our dogs. There's dog tracks in Jacksonville. But to hear somebody, yeah, figures.

To hear somebody talk about, you know, you don't understand context when I'm like, maybe you don't understand context because there is context around this run right now. You know, like both of these quarterbacks are in the category. of quarterback and I'm not saying they're in the same spot on this

spectrum that's for you to decide but there is there's a couple of these guys and then there's a lot of these guys and then there's everybody else and I think you know they're in they're in this category which is like the next 10 quarterbacks

you know and that's okay you can win a Super Bowl with either of them as Jalen Hertz has proved and so you know it's Trevor winner we'll find out because that's one thing you can't deny what Jalen Hertz is he's a winner in the biggest spot. And they won the East again. So we'll move on from the Eagles. Like, listen, I've been pretty critical of the Eagles offense this year and Jalen Hurts. I mean, he's got to play his best ball here coming up. So the biggest game in the NFC.

Sorry, Cowboy, what you got? I was just going to say with that Peterson-Hertz, Peterson-Lorence comparison. Trevor had him for much longer. Jalen was only with Doug Peterson for half the season. He threw 150 passes, but it was also his rookie year. Yeah, so we'll throw that out. We'll just have to see what happens in the playoffs. Panthers Bucks, this one was the biggest game in the NFC. And, you know, Bo, I want to hear what you have to say about the Bucks. We'll start with the winning team here.

The Bucks came to town, ran for 170 and lost. Okay, like, to me, this game was going to be decided by which quarterback played better. And, you know, if you heard me talk last week about the Saints beating the Pets, the Panthers. I said, you got to, you got to have a feel for when you're not getting it done on the ground. And you got to let this quarterback make some plays for you. And I thought they came into this game and let Bryce cook a little bit more. And I just want to say this because I know I've been, I've had light arguments with a lot of people in the chat, outside the chat, out in the world about Bryce Young all season. And I think if you watch his tape and you put aside your bias and you

and you check the, you know, small quarterbacks, can't get it done, the NFL thing at the door, the quality of the throws he's made this year are high. Like across the board, all season long, when there's a throw to be made, he makes the throw. He's also not afraid in the pocket. He moves well in the pocket for such a little guy, especially. And I got to feel like Carolina feels like they have their guy.

Now, I don't know if it's going to be like a max deal or something like that, but I think he's showing you a, enough to feel like, hey, he can be, you know, we're picking up the option or whatever we're doing. He can be our guy. And it's a game like this that kind of proves that I know that it's just the Bucks. And I know that the Bucks are a factory of sadness right now. But the Bucks came into this season with a different expectation. This is what they expected to do was win the South.

And they still can. But the Panthers are a year ahead of schedule. And I think that speaks to the coach. I think it speaks to the quarterback. But perfect example, Bryce, before the half. You know the Tett McMillan ball that he hit before the half for the touchdown. Not five minutes earlier. He's throwing the same ball.

And Diabi is lining him up for probably four yards. Bryce is seeing the thing coming the whole time. And he just gets his clock clean, bro. I mean, absolutely obliterated by a big ass power rushing defensive end. Stands in there, throws the ball, drops a dime, doesn't convert. but to stand in there again against the blitz minutes later hit that ball some of the third down conversions late in the game you know the back shoulder to tapp mcmillan you know there there was the the obvious example would be the the scramble uh extension for the touchdown down the red zone that when you watch the end zone of that play it looks like high school tape and i mean like what brys young did not like not a lot of guys can do in the NFL at that level and so yeah he's He's small. Yeah, he's diminutive. Yeah, you can't see over the fucking tackles. But boy, does he look comfortable and tough in that pocket, moves well? And the quality of the ball coming off his hand

is I put it up there with a lot of guys in this league. And so, you know, they just need to be patient, improve the things around him. I don't know how this ends for them. I don't know if they win the division. I still think Tampa might win it. But it ain't going to be because Bryce hasn't played well. I think he's outplayed Baker this year. And at one point, we were talking about Baker being an MVP candidate, but we've been pumping the brakes on that since the beginning because he just has not been himself this season. And I think part of it is probably, he doesn't. And I think part of it is the injury. I also think on a day like yesterday where your, your OC from two iterations ago is on the other sideline beating you as a head coach. And Liam Cohen, your last OC, is elevating

Trevor Lawrence and Jacksonville Jaguars to be one of the best teams in the AFC you're sitting there with Todd Bowles and you're thinking, damn, we had two head coaches in our building and Todd Bowles who has done a lot of good things in his league, we just keep banging our heads on this ceiling. And it feels like a glass ceiling

where we just, you know, it's right there. You know, we can see it. We feel like we're talented enough and certainly you can point to the injuries. But there's no reason you should lose this game and score 20 points. And I know he doesn't coach the offense,

but the game management, the lack of urgency putting teams away just a week ago. You look at the Atlanta game. Like you're up two scores in the fourth quarter. That's the theme over and over again with this team. And then even before that, the Shuck led, you know, the Saints. And I think, you know, just speaking on Bulls real quick, I love Todd.

I think he's a great coach. He's not super outspoken in the media. And you saw after last week that lost to the Falcons. He was really up there, motherfucking the team. And it's probably the most passionate he's been in the media, just talking about how he needs to get more of his guys. I think his exact quote was like,

it should mean a lot, like this should hurt. And then you go out and you drop one of the Panthers. The Panthers are good. I mean, they're definitely better, you know, than the Saints and the Falcons. But I think the disappointing thing to me with the Bucks offensively is their run game is rolling, especially like getting Bucky back really helps.

He had 71 yards rushing their day. They ran, like you said, Chris, for 170 yards. You think that that would really help out the passing game, and it just felt like that hasn't materialized at all. The only real, you know, explosive play in the past game was to Igbuka, who's also kind of fallen off a little bit down the stretch. And, you know, he's had a great rookie year and all that. That one rookie year yesterday.

I agree. Yeah. And that was kind of a sneaky battle to watch. I just don't really understand. Like, you could talk about the injuries, which you kind of mentioned to Baker. like Baker's been battling through. You know, you saw that shoulder injury had where he left the game against the Rams. You know, Mike Evans, it doesn't really feel like Baker and Mike were connecting a ton.

There were times, especially in critical moments where they were not on the same page. Chiefly, the interception at the end of the game where I think Mike got a feeling that Baker was going to scramble and he kind of pinched his route off and went back inside and Baker through the pick. But the bottom line is the Bucks are being, they're just really disappointing. and they've fallen off and they're not playing well offensively like I said like they need to get more out of these dudes like they have some fucking dudes offensively like Buka Evans Godwin McMillan you know Bucky Rashad White yeah dude it's kind of like on paper they're they're kind of a damn on their wagon offensively on paper but again like the thing that we made a mistake doing with the

Jags earlier in the year I'm not going to do with the bucks where where it's like listen they're probably out of time to get this thing right right and and I see some people in the chat that are like, well, they've been losing so much, they're not going to win the division. Don't be shocked. Don't be shocked. They're still in the driver's seats. They win the division. And here's the deal. It's really hard to beat a team twice in one year, let alone twice in three weeks. So I feel like that matchup tilts, especially being at home. And, you know, the bucks, you keep, you keep banking on them wanting it more. Like wanting it more is going to make them play to a level of detail that they haven't. But it's like nothing, they're too flatlined, dude. Nothing really pushes them to elevate their play.

And I think they got to stop feeling sorry for themselves and pull their fucking heads out of their asses and realize you win two games, you're going to go to the playoffs. And I do think they're good enough to win a playoff game if they play their best. But the problem is they have not played their best. And these long losing streaks have plagued them over the last three years.

I think they're two and seven this year. I think last year they had a two and seven stretch. I think the year before they, I think they had like a two and six stretch. they when they get unwell they don't come back quick and and i just you know like i don't want to do the thing we did with the jags earlier this year which is say oh you know what they're just terrible they have had a bunch of guys that have not been on the same page all year because of injuries and that's not an excuse that's reality um you know like when you're talking about like

new offense mike evans out uh McMillan out. God went out. Fuck, Bucky Irving out for like the better part of a month. Your whole offensive. Worst was out for a while. That stuff matters.

As you can see, it culminates in the end of the game with two guys that have been playing catch for years now, not being on the same page where one thinks you're going to the scramble drill and the other is ready to just burn that ball, which is another thing. At that point in the game,

you're down a field goal and you're just about in range. You know, like there's a certain like, unsettled feeling when you watch the Bucks offense. They're just, they're frantic. And a lot of it is because Baker, he's kind of gotten good at and dependent on just moving around in the pocket and like buying extra time and trying to do a little bit too much. And I don't know. I think, I think it speaks to the two coaches they had in the building and obviously let

them walk in. And in Philly, okay, we talked about, there was a time where people were calling for Siriani's head and make no mistake about it, if they flamed down the stretch this year, they're going to be calling for his head again. And there were times when, you know, reasonable people could look at that situation and be like, damn, Shane Steichen was the head coach, like he was in the building and he left. And you saw the offensive woes that followed. And I think oftentimes in the NFL now, like when you've got a great coach in the building and you've got a head coach that maybe people aren't as crazy about, you end up in these

situations in retrospect where you're like, damn, dude, we had two of them that are really energizing franchises and elevating those quarterbacks. And now we've got a defensive head coach. The defense isn't playing well. Defense has been poor, man. They literally brought J.B. out of retirement. They don't have, I mean, I've been talking about how the Bucstein edge rusher for, I feel like, every week now.

And don't get me wrong, I love JPP. He's a hell of a character and, you know, an athletic freak even this far out of the league. But anytime you're kind of going back through the Rolodex and. and bringing out a guy who's, you know, who's in retirement. You're clearly at a major position of knee. Yadiyadi, he's had some good rushes at times during this year, but the defense has been a big problem. Our friend tails of, like they're making a lot of plays.

Our friend tails of a weed smoker. He's on the other side of this thing. He's either, charges and Niners are far more hurting. They find ways to win. Great teams find ways to win with adversity. Well, a couple things that are different about those situations. Number one, the San Francisco 49ers have one of the best play callers. of this generation offensively.

It literally doesn't matter who plays quarterback there. The second thing is the Chargers have Justin Herbert. And that is going to come up again in the AFC when we talk about. But nobody, and I mean nobody, is playing better quarterback than him right now, considering the circumstance. And I mean nobody. He's up for real. I mean nobody.

He's a dog. So, you know, like you can say, hey, well, these other, but there's also teams every year that don't finish because of injuries. And you can cherry pick, hey, these teams are in it, these teams aren't, you know, you just got to suck it up. But it's not an excuse.

It's an explanation for what's happening on the field. I'm looking at this team play, and it looks like they're not on the same page, offensively or defensively. Talk about defense. Got no pass rush. None. Got no linebacker play.

None. Got a young nickel corner. Got a young corner. You know, like the best, version of this team. It was Colaja Can't See Healthy. It was Hassan Reddick being the guy that he was in Philly a couple years ago. And it was Lavante David not taking a big step back physically. They just all those things have happened plus the injuries. All right. So here we go. Chris, quick question for you about the bull, come back to the Bulls thing, that conversation. And you've

been making this point about, you know, seeing situations around the league where these great assistants go on and become head coaches and having success. and I think it's a really interesting conversation around like potentially making that decision. What do you do? Right. Like how would you think about that? Like let's say you're an owner.

Like that kind of, it feels like it's almost a tradeoff of like, all right, my offense is humming. I can't risk losing this play caller. I might lose a little bit of this like culture dynamic. I'd like to think that I would put my money where my mouth is and say if I didn't, if I wasn't sure about my head coach, coach deep down you know yep and it's a relationship business and coaches and owners they get cool and like especially if you've won together but like you got to think about the health of your

organization and if you think that the next big thing is coaching your offense and your head coach is like a middling defensive head coach i don't care if he's been there a while like you might have we might see eventually a team say we are going to we're going to we're going to fire and promote, which I don't think we see a lot. Like we see it an interim basis, but never calculated, never like, hey, I think we've got the next fucking Andy Reid in the building. And I'm sorry, I mean, that's all, that's almost what, what Todd and, uh, would BA and Todd did. You know what I mean? But it's, Todd's getting the, he's getting the Mike Tomlin treatment a little bit where it's like, you know, just kind of failing to meet expectations with talented teams, but still being somewhat

successful. Like that's, that's not enough, you know. and you know Pittsburgh has a much more rabid fan base I think than Tampa in general yeah but it it does feel like you know Todd's seat is is heating up a little bit and he's just not getting the same performance out of a talented roster as he needs to be yeah I think that's interesting about the bucks and the reason I ask the question is like it seems like such a controversial decision to make but after the fact it's also like so obvious of like why wouldn't you do that you know considering the situation and knowing how important, especially in the case of the light color. That's why it's norms.

But I think the norms should change. Yeah. You know, I, you know, I, especially to see these examples stack up of like Ben Johnson going and, you know, Detroit struggling to figure it out. Liam Cohen. Now Buck's figuring it out. Like if we're talking about your head coach being on the hot seat multiple times over a couple of years span and it culminates in a terribly coached last year. If they beat Washington, I think they can make a little run, probably get beat by Philly. But still they match up well against Philly.

They, they shit down their leg in that game. Like, that was just, I mean, you know, like when you, when you, when you're around that, when you're around that building, I'm pretty sure. Like, if they look back on last year, they felt like that one got away because they didn't play their best ball and they played flat flat. Like that was. And so after a game like that, if you've got this stud offensive coordinator, the most important relationship at the building is the quarterback and the offensive coordinator or the play caller

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what is it jags money line I've been saying it every week which which uh been putting it in um but it's risky their favorites a lot of the time and I've been putting it in the green light newsletter here's what killed me here's what killed me yesterday and respectfully respectfully respectfully what are we 500 games above 500 on the pick show. Yes. We, you know,

we're not hurting. Right. Yesterday was a bad day. You were the only plus 500. You were only in the plus. But it was a bloodbath. Yeah.

It was a blood bath for those guys, too. It was like a tough weekend. Respectfully, your boy's been picking them. But yesterday, what happened was, I didn't love the board. This is a lesson for people to gamble.

If you don't like gambling, tough shit, just like earmuffs or something, like act like a kid. If you don't like the board, you don't have to play anything. I didn't love the board yesterday and I did a bunch of teasers

and the Steelers absolutely ruined my day. Steelers ruined my day. The other one that killed me was Thursday night, Green Bay. Started the slide. Unbelievable. See how professional I was about that game. When you don't like the board, why not do props?

I like props. I don't love props. I might... Kenny Gainwell, Stud. We'll talk about him in a minute. Rogers said it. Like on the season, you're like 500-ish on props but like 700. I'm like I'm 750 on yeah on sides and and and I would say that's a glitch but it's happened two years in a row. I'm just doing a good job but but I get in trouble when I try to do too much and yesterday the lesson is if you don't like the board you can just sit on your hands and I should

have including last night chasing old um you got no one to fucking Kenny Rogers is looking to me like bro you know the song Patriots 28 Ravens 24 and this is the one that and I maintain bookending my weekend. I was on the right fucking side of Green Bay and I was on the right side of this damn game. The problem is this game ended when Derek Henry fumbled that football. They're up 7-0. They have a chance to control this football game. And I know New England comes back from 11 down in the fourth quarter, but that script plays out a little bit differently.

If you get a two touchdown lead to start, Derek Henry with the fumble problems, just a total. mess. When you watch Baltimore right now, I don't see a good football team. I thought this was a good spot for them last night. And I think it might have been if Lamar doesn't get hurt. But this is, when you watch their team, like, what is their identity?

Like, what do they do really well? They got a great Swiss Army knife at safety. Kyle. I like Wiggins a lot. But Wiggins has got to catch that football. Like, as good as Drake May was in this game in spots. He also gave them opportunities, cracks in the door where they didn't take advantage. And obviously they had the pick early in the game, which I thought was on bootie as much

than anything. That was a total like, what the fuck are you doing, man? You got to come back to the football. It looked like he kind of gave up on the play. But I think Drake May, the brilliance of what they can do to you was on display last night because Baltimore can't rush the passer. Baltimore has no rushers. and you know if you let drake may sit back there and bake a cake which early in the game i felt like

a lot of time he was baking a cake some of these deepovers and things that like you know they'll run the they'll run the they'll run the cover three corner out of the picture they'll run verticals and you know it's a dig or it's a deep over and you need time to complete these kind of passes these big chunks and he's the perfect quarterback for it because he's got the arm that can access anywhere in the field the throw to Williams that you know gets it all back in like one play is just the biggest arm arrogance throw where you know you're you're fighting out of this hole they go quick game to get to half field and then they just take the shot and it's like fuck we're in a football game now and uh they get two point conversion and all that stuff at the end of the game so just a really

impressive really backbreaking for the ravens no pun intended because damn lamar leaves the back it feels like it feels like the beginning of the end for baltimore and it feels like for new england is a team that's had this easy schedule and then they lost last week and then this week they end up in a dog fight and they find a way to win it like this was really impressive you lose some guys you're playing with some injuries um but but i thought like drake may the ups and downs he got rattled in the middle of the game but coming back to make those throws late stevenson some of the blitz pick up some of the big runs that he had in this game. It was just kind of a next man up thing.

When Henderson gets hurt, your offense loses a little bit of that explosive element to it. So I just think Drake May having the time and then Wiggins not making the play that could have been game. Like, that's it. And for the Ravens, I don't know who the fuck you are, dude. And I don't know if that, like, even with Lamar playing quarterback,

I don't know who you are. I don't know who you are anymore. And I don't know what they're. identity is it's it's frustrating to watch it's a lot like watching the bucks in a different form it's you should be better um but you're not they've always had such an identity man with derrick henry and lamar and now without those two guys playing well it's just like who the fuck are we you know uh going back to the patriots real quick did we get um have heard anything about Henderson I have not but as soon as his head hit the ground I knew it was done it was just a classic yeah exactly I mean the way

The way that thing whiplash back. I gotta make a P, you guys keep breaking out of staff. Yeah, I don't know the, I don't know if they have the analytics. How much those, those guardian caps? Like, I wonder if he wears a guardian cap, if that minimizes a chance for you to get a concussion in that spot right there when it bounces like that. Because I know it looks silly,

but, yo, if it's going to potentially save me, from a concussion, I would be like, fuck it and just wear it because it's just like, I feel like you see it more and more. All you have to do is it doesn't even have to be like you're getting tackled maliciously. If you fall the right way and your head bounces off the turf, it just sucks for some people that can equal a concussion every single time. Right. And then other people is just like a, we'll just shake it off. Right. Is there for you, for all three you guys, is there any reason is there any defense John Harbaugh can have for not playing Derek Henry on the final two drives? No, there's no defense for that. There's no defense for that. I thought that was like a head scratcher.

It was like, what are we doing here? I understand that like late in the game, you're trying to throw the ball and, you know, maybe you'll like the other guys out of the backfield. But I thought that was a big. John Kyle Shanahan, Harbaugh. Somebody would say the fumbling issue. well yeah but i mean big spots like what you've also like he's fumbled in big spots and hey maybe he didn't earned he he hasn't earned to be in i i i know i know what you're saying in the moment because it feels like if you think about well then you should be then you shouldn't be the head coach of the ravens no i because you because no i'm not saying you no yeah john because your backs against the wall it really doesn't matter what kind of lessons you're trying to teach anybody it doesn't matter what kind an example you're trying to set like he is your whole offense you heard chris collinsworth talk about it

when you come to the half is like okay derrick you're the whole fucking game now and i it's hard to disagree like that he's the center of the universe in that stadium for both teams is like can we stop this big sob and i don't think they could i don't think they could stop him and and and you take him off the field it was just kind of crazy because he fumbled then they put him back in and he's totally the rock and then they take them out yeah then they take them out so i i i've had enough of of this raven's football team i've had enough of the playoff letdowns i've had enough of the lack of discipline i've had enough of like them fooling us and us thinking they had this shiny car and they really didn't like it just there's too many holes in the roster and i think most of the football

world missed it now luckily i didn't fall into the pick them for the division that's my my cats who fucking I still maintain the best even the division but they're gonna be at home again the Ravens are gonna be at home too and the Steelers on a Sunday where the Steelers played their best game the Ravens showed up and they they they really for about 10 minutes it felt like they were gonna do the same but they make too many mistakes that's their whole deal encapsulated man that's their whole deal encapsulated so I think for the Patriots really good to find different ways to win football games.

Yeah. Really good to find different ways to win football games. It's still a little bit of scary hours, I feel like in New England. That run defense has to tighten up. Yeah. They start this season. They got to get melting back. They got to get melting back. They got to get splitting back. Like, you're not going to be able to win games in the

postseason if you can't stop the run. It just opens up too many options for an offense against you. So they have to try to figure that out. on defense or things can start getting ugly because even though you can and the team is built for shootouts, I don't think the pets want to be the team trying to win games with shootouts. They'd have a hard time beating the Jags. No, for sure. Yeah.

They'll have a hard time. I don't think they want to do that. I think they want to play traditional smash mouth, less control the clock type football. But if teams are going to be able to run and score on you quick. as a bill's guy they don't scare me the most in the a fc not even close but i still respect the fuck out of what texans scare me the most and then the jags probably

um and and you know the bro the broncos i feel like for some reason what i've seen from their their defense like turning into a normal defense all the sudden when when they play good offenses like it kind of feels like the bills can beat that team like so i'm just saying like From my vantage point, the Pats, to put it in context, don't worry me as much as the other teams in the AFC. Not to say that they're not a good football team or I don't love Rable. I don't love Drake May. You guys were all sitting there with your futures just hoping that they would fucking pass the six and a half win mark to get the over on the win total.

So like even if you're a Pats fan, let's not act like you saw this coming. All right. Like you still need to see it proved in the playoffs. So I think they're a year ahead. I think they're a year ahead. So they're one of these teams that like, hey, your year ahead, you shouldn't even be here. You should be psyched because your quarterback's that fucking good and your coach is that good. Speaking of the AFC North, we get the Steelers.

And a team in the Steelers that might look a little different the next two games, the final two games of the regular season as about 20 minutes ago, Tom Pelliserra reported that the NFL is suspending DK Metcalf, two games without play for physically confronting a Lions fan during Sunday's win at Detroit. Metcalf has reported this same fan to security last season when the Seahawks played the lines. They've had maybe not altercations, but run-ins before.

That fan did release a statement by a Michigan law firm saying that this fan categorically denies using any racial, misogynistic, or hate-based language during the incident, something that was reported, surmised, believed to have been a to be in a, to be a, to be said it was it was talked about last night on night cap yeah but in the past there have been issues with tk and this particular fan all right so i think it's an interesting conversation because whenever i see something like this it was so ridiculous when i saw it like you just don't see it like i've not seen something like that puka's brother did it in like one of these minor league football leagues like a couple weeks i don't see this in the nfl oh yeah you haven't seen this so when i see it i'm like

man the dude must have said something really foul and so obviously your your head goes to the one place that you know ocho seemed to go last night on on um on nightcap but then you know you saw there was a video that came out today with different angles and you know you couldn't hear anything that's not to say the guy could have mouth something like whatever it was only the people in that section in dk know and maybe the security guards i think maybe Maybe that stuff comes to light. Maybe it doesn't. It's kind of a thing where, you know, you can say,

hey, you can't do that. You just can never do that. But I'm not gonna sit here and tell a guy that if he's called that word, how to react. I can't tell you how to react. You know, all bets are off. I understand that ideally, when we look at this level-headedly,

we say, hey, the player has a choice. If that's what said the player has a choice. If that's what's said the player has a choice. And again, I'm not telling you what to do in this situation, but the choices are this. Either you can not react, report him to security, get him ejected. I've done that to a fan in Seattle. I got that motherfucker ejected.

Then the second thing is you can react. You can backhand this motherfucker. You can yank him by his collar onto the field. You can beat the dog shit out of him if you want to, but there are repercussions. And the repercussions are going to hurt your football team. And so you have a choice, but now,

you can hurt your pockets hurt your image which sucks because everybody always talks about dk as being a really good guy you know i heard uh gregg olson talk about him this morning on a podcast about how he's a great guy wears his hard on his sleeves where he's hard on his sleeve um but definitely a guy that's going to want this back and so i don't know what was said believe me i'm the first one that like it drives me nuts that people on the internet there's no recourse like that's my biggest pet peeve is that like people can just say whatever the fuck they want to people with no recourse and that's the way the world is now and if you're a fan you can say whatever you want to the player and there's no recourse but if you're the player and you decide to enact a recourse some retribution

you're definitely going to be sitting down for a little bit and that and that's so it's kind of like the freedom of speech thing where it's like freedom of speech is not freedom of consequences you know you say something ridiculous you might get smack in the face that doesn't mean they're not going to arrest the guy that doesn't that hits you in the face like that's the way the world works you know so i don't have a take my take is it hurts the football team uh i wasn't there uh and obviously if he was a teammate of mine my take would be fuck man we kind of need you down the stretch don't we um you know i we can um you know maybe we can see they got the ravens again yeah so it really got the ravens again that that's a big game for i mean for that you guys

might have to correct me if i'm wrong here but that's isn't that pretty much going to be potentially the game for the for the AFC North well they have right at Ravens right now the Steelers right now the Steelers do have a bit of a leg up because they are they have they're nine and six Ravens are seven and eight 94%

for the Steelers to win the division and make the playoff so they they have a bit of a cushion unless they stumble against the Browns this week um you know see if uh see if those guys give them a little bit of a battle but it was interesting the fan said that he called DK by his full name

and then after the game Mike Tomlin was asked hey what do you think of the DK incident and we had seen it like this was late second quarter we saw it we saw what happened but it's one of those things

that we see it because we're taking in the game there's cameras everywhere but you all on the field don't you know you're probably hear about it you might hear about it somebody's like yo do you see what DK just did well he's still out here like that would have been

but my thing about it is I just feel like so many people probably were just paying attention to the game that no one did see it. Because I feel like if it was a bigger situation, maybe if he did pull him over the banister and like he fell into like onto the field, it would have been something that would have been more of a buzz. But since it wasn't, it was just kind of like a quick slap and then he just walked away from it. A coach wouldn't know about that. Like because coaches aren't really rushing into the locker room to look at their phones or pay attention to something. social media to see what memes or whatever's going on. And then it's a situation where I feel like if Tomlin did know about it, as a coach

protecting your player, like, no, I didn't see it. Well, listen. Like, I don't want to talk about it. Let me get to my PR people and team to figure out what are we going to say about whatever happened. Dude, they're in there right now frantically drawn up an offense that doesn't feature D.K. Metcalfe. And that's an ugly deal.

I'd hate to be them doing this right now. So they're probably just like, they're probably kind of livid that he did something. But also like you, you know, it depends on. Can you appeal quick enough? Because it's something where he's not going to win an appeal. I know. But if D.K., if it's something for protecting the players, if D.K. tried to get like a restraining order on this fan before or tried to get him removed.

It's something where. Yeah, but he walked up to the guy he's trying to get a restraining order from. That's the problem. Yeah, but he walked up to the guy you're trying to, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, he kind of pulled him down. I know, but at the same token, it's like whatever that guy's doing, like, it's, it obviously makes deep... People don't understand in here. That's the problem. And like, I get it. Like, it's easy to look at this thing and be like, well, you're so stupid. Why would you react? And you might be right. Like, because you are making that decision that I talked about where you're like, you're choosing to make your life a living hell. But y'all don't know what it's like to have... You just literally don't to have a bunch of people that are strangers saying, right? reckless things to you from behind a wall at work at work and i totally i totally get that like these

guys are paid millions and their babies and whatever like whatever you want to say to make it but like nobody tries you because nobody's trying you like nobody's worried about you so it's like this is a deal where you just have to understand that sometimes like your temper gets the most of you like i've been in situations with fans where like i got mad enough that like i thought about like you know things cross your mind but i've there's no word if that's that's what it was that would get me there. And I don't know what that's like. So I'm just being, I'm just being real. He should be suspended. It was a dumb decision. But he's also a human being where it's like, dude, people lose. They're cool. Does it make it right? Listen to Lamar Jackson in the

Buffalo game to start the season, gets shoved. And then he goes and shoves the, the fan back. Everybody's okay with it because they're like, well, what the fuck they shoved them? But to the same degree, those people should be okay with this because a shove is not, doesn't demand that you defend yourself. Like, Lamar's not in danger. You know, so it's just like, you've got to look at this with some nuance where it's like, Lamar didn't have to do that either, but we were all okay with it because the guy made physical contact.

Yeah. Which doesn't make any sense, really, when you talk it out pragmatically. Yeah. Like, you just walk away from the guy and avoid the, the chance of you incurring a punishment. It just sucks. That it's just one of those things where obviously always the player has way more, way more to lose. Like, way more to lose than that fan that's getting that adrenaline.

from getting under your skin or doing whatever he's doing that maybe he thinks he's helping his team win or I'm agitating one of their best guys so this is like I'm part of this I don't know what it is but it's just one of those things where it's it's it's not it's not smart and then it's it's dangerous because you do have some guys like dk macs and some guys that they have money put away for legal stuff to get that slap off and feel good about it at the end of the day. Yeah, he's got the slap fun. Well, I'll tell you what, I didn't have the, I didn't have a slap fund yesterday when I had the fucking the lions in a, in a, in a damn teaser four ways. And D.K's catching back shoulder fades like 10 minutes after he assaults the fan. And I'm like,

get him out of here. I almost called the NFL league office. It was like, hey, man, this guy hit a dry. I don't know if you guys saw that, but like, boy, it's struggling. in here and why is he in the game. It would have ruined the NFL script. They got to get tomlin his wins, right? Yeah, I guess so. And that's interesting because I wonder if this will be a change maybe in the off season, but the NFL said because there wasn't a flag on the play, he couldn't be.

It's just so unprecedented. Right, exactly. Like, of course there's not going to be a flag on the play. The referees aren't looking at the sideline. Well, that's an interesting one. Because there wasn't a flag in a play, why used to spend it from two games after effect? Well, but they're two different conversations.

There's no flag on the play when Ray Rice hits the. woman in the elevator but like and i'm not likening the two but i'm giving you the extreme example of like well there's no flag on that play you know like conduct is conduct especially what's on camera and i'm not likening a dv case to him grabbing a fucking guy in a blue wig yeah but what i am saying is like it it doesn't have to be well because you can't because you didn't eject him you can't suspend him like that's just not that that logic doesn't hold up um these steelers man they really they get off on like like losing their hair supply for a minute they really do like we got to be fire mike tom to start fucking playing well and that seems to be like the way that they've been since since i got in this

business watching these games and so you know now now the question is the post season is it going to be any different because i'm not sure like if they're one and done in the post season is ugly like i don't know what people think are we just going to keep doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result they're down both edges okay they're down to their four string left tackle. They deserve a lot of credit for winning this game. This was an uncharacteristic spot for them. And I think Steelers fans know what I'm talking about when you say, wow, your team just showed up. The defense played physical. The defense played like, you know, there were this defense that you were talking about all year without TJ Watt,

without her big. Um, you know, the, the honestly, ironically, because you talk about the price of this defense and how much you pay to acquire all the people on and all the massive stars, It's really the supporting cast that played great yesterday. I think Harmon is huge for them. Sawyer made some plays. Dugger with the safety. I think Thielin, Detroit covered him like one time in the middle of the field. Like this guy's going to make a difference for them.

So, you know, I gain well. You talk about these castoffs. Just a really good team win, controlling time possession. Going in to Ford Field after Lions lost, we all know the story. I thought I knew the story. I think it's the first time they've lost a consecutive game since 22 or something like that, which is fucking insane. Yep. Which is why I want to give Dan Campbell in this program a little bit of grace, but I got to say, it kind of felt like yesterday is the day like the Detroit Lions bank defaulted.

You know what I'm saying? Like all of a sudden, I'm like, your money's not worth what I thought it was. You know, I just feel like they have such a hard road ahead of them this off season to get back to where they were. and they got to do it through personnel and they got to do it fast because I think what they're out to prove is that it wasn't about the guys it's about the culture, the exes and those

it's about the exes. You know, when Ben Johnson leaves, you say, well, it's not going to be a big deal. John Morton halfway through the season, you got OCDC, you know, Ragnow retires, not going to be a big deal. It's a culture thing. It's a scheme thing.

Well, it's not a scheme thing because Ben's gone. Well, culture can only do so much when center play's been bad all year and when your own line depth is not great. And so like for as good a job as Brad Holmes has done, you know I love Dan Campbell. They got a lot of work to do this offseason. And I said this on the live show last night. And this is, I love the Lions. And I'm glad we can have this conversation again, like adults, because at the beginning of the season, when I said they take a step back, a lot of people told me I hated the Lions.

I picked them to win the division two, three years running. I fucking love Detroit. One of my favorite things that I've done as a professional podcaster has been sitting down in person with Dan Campbell. my favorite people in the NFL, love the program. But I got to call it how I see it. If you're planning on listening to this podcast and watching it for years to come, not every year am I going to like your team? And it's not personal. I just saw that the interior offensive line,

which is kind of like when you play a boss in a video game growing up, there's always like a core that if you can affect this core, if you can get this little button, you can beat the big bosses. Yes. And they've got, they were like a big boss where, the interior offensive line is the thing that holds up the whole house of cards. And I'm not calling it a house of cards necessarily because they have great players outside those guys.

But everything gets harder when you can't protect Jared Goff and you can't reset the line of scrimmage. So, I mean, to get the ball run up their ass, to get the clock controlled with their backs against the wall trying to make the playoffs, the line of scrimmage dominated, they don't run the ball for 20 yards on the game. T.J. Watson, not on the field. Herbig's not playing. interior line bad depth got exposed couldn't block the edges i felt like in this game you know austin those guys were like hey ends don't worry about the boot don't worry about any eye candy you go tackle the fucking running back and high smith lived in the backfield and here's the last thing i'm going to say bo jerig golf's great just through for 360 you know i like jared golf but if you want me to

bullshit you i'll tell you that i don't see you inefficiency here with this offense. Here's what I see. Go watch Chicago play. You saw it the other night. Now I know Ben Johnson's there. Watch how edge defenders are afraid to trigger. Watch how edge defenders are worried about the boot. Watch how edge defenders are worried about the nakeds. There is nothing to worry about when you play this Detroit team with Jared Gough as a quarterback. And I just want to make that clear. I think Jared Gough is a fantastic quarterback. he's a he's a he's I called him fringe top 10 a couple years ago and people thought I punched a baby I'm just saying he's a top 10 quarterback in the NFL in a consistent manner that other guys

haven't been so that counts for something to be seven every year or eight or what have you that's not an insult that's a fucking that's a capital C compliment but the problem is he does not handle pressure at his feet well and he can't give you all the other stuff that a modern offense can now you can work around that if you got a dynamic run game and play action, you open up the middle of the field. The problem is, though, you look at them backed up in that game yesterday, and this is a rep that I think is pretty indicative of like the deficiencies with the quarterback is, he's got a dig coming open. It's James and Williams across the field, but the, but his feet are muddy. And he's got to take that extra gather, you know, where other guys can

make those kind of really athletic off platform throws, the one-legged throws, the falling away throws, like fucking Caleb Williams threw the ball to DJ Moore the other night off his left foot falling away from Quay Walker 65 yards. Jared Goff has a fucking cannon on his shoulder, but it takes a second to, you know what I'm saying? And so I look at this offense and I say they need to get this thing right and in a hurry and they need to take better care of that quarterback, and they need to get their bread and butter back, which is dominating reset in the line of scrimmage. If they can't do that, you know you can you can in the second half of this game like start start getting at the corners and and you know throwing the ball around the yard but that's not your identity and and i think for

detroit this off season they have to be very surgical about the guys they bring in a free agency and draft they can get back right where they were now we're just talking about offense because the defense was putrid and i know you're going to talk about how the steelers won on the ground bow but i got to say when you play guys like thomas harper and not to like single out a single guy but i am just to use an example, like week after week after week after week, I know that like these guys are scrappy on the back end. And I know, you know, Mollett and Amique Robertson, they're they're tough dudes and it's injuries that drive a lot of these guys

to have to play a lot of snaps. But like they've lived that way the past two years. It's just like that's the world they're living in on a consistent basis. And I don't understand it. So, you know, defensively they still are trying to find that second rusher outside of Hutch. there was a snap. I just want to give Hutch some love.

He beat one of the best sacks I've seen all year. He beat two guys clean, both of them. I mean, it was like he had full slide. And, I mean, he beat the tackle inside the guard sitting there waiting for him. He beats him for a sack. I think Jack Campbell's a hell of a football player. I think there's a lot of good football players in his D-line. But they have to find a second rusher,

and they need to get the cover guys that they want on the field. They need to stay out on the field as long as they can because it's hard to watch. That was my TED talk. Jack Campbell had 16 tackled, man. But yeah, I mean, Chris, I was interested in this game because I love watching the Lions run game. You talk about their bread and butter what they like to do.

And that's, you know, run the ball, get quarterback under center, you know, duo. Like, they run the fuck out of duo. But they ran the ball only 12 times for 15 yards here, which is not at all. Like that, that stat is going to keep Dan Campbell up at night. I'm trying to figure out why, and you really summarized it pretty, pretty well. The interior of their offensive line is just struggled, man. Graham Glasgow has been injured. He just got back in.

I think it was his first game. Or no, he's injured. Sorry. His backup is Kingsley, Gukua, I think is how you say his name. But he, AguCon, he struggled, man. So that was a big problem. Tate Radledge didn't play his best game. It was Mahogany's first game back at Left Guard.

And those guys are really struggling, you know, to combo up from first level up to the backers. And the Steelers did a nice job defensively of running backers through and blitzing the close side and things like that, which are all basic, you know, like five-down blitzes to stop the run game. But to just only run the ball 12 times at a Dan Campbell offense feels like just a travesty, man. They tried to, to your point, like they tried to get out of duo and go to more gap

scheme stuff. Like they ran a power down in like the low red zone. and what you're talking about those edge players, man, Jack Sawyer literally just ran to the back field for like a five-yard TFL. And the guards couldn't even get over there in time. There's another time in like this third quarter, I think, where they tried to run like a stutter, which is a counter to the open side away from the tight end

for all use that don't know, Dr. Fax talking to you. And the edge player literally just, again, ran, I think it was Highsmith, ran right around the pulling guard and had another like three-yard TFL. So it's like if you can't get these basic run, like if you can't block up power, stutter, and duo, which is those are like three of the most basic run plays, day one run install with your guys. Like you're going to have a really tough time. So I think, you know, you're talking a little bit about the line's offseason needs. Shoring up their offensive line is is very high on that list.

On the other side of the ball here, the Pittsburgh did a really good job rushing. They had 27 rushes for 230 yards. now, Arthur Smith, his bread and butter, it's zone. Okay, so it's a zone run scheme. One thing that they did that I really liked is did a really good job of running, you know, they ran the ball, like I said, like almost 30 times. They ran a fuck ton of obviously inside zone, outside zone. But then they really stressed the perimeter with crack toss and then end around.

And that, I just really like the way they mixed those in. They made a lot of hay there. Just softens up the perimeter and gets those guys a little slow. So when the running back is cutting back, kind of rolling all the way back, just sets up all your other run plays. And defensively, the Lions, they're just kind of overrunning blockers on the backside, you know? And the Steelers running backs were just kind of cutting back and doing that. And then, man, the Steelers also had a very basic. It was like a lead open, lead week.

Yeah. I think they ran it out of 12 personnel. But, you know, it's 21. It's a classic lead open. Like, think like, you know, 2000s NFL. and it went for like 50 yards, you know, and that's a play that I'm sure the Lions have defended in practice a million times. So the bottom line is the the Lions interior kind of injuries and struggles.

Like they really are missing guys like Frank Reg now. I think about, think back a couple years, dudes like Kevin Zitler, you know, kind of those mallers on the inside that really make their offense go. But they got out physicaled by the Steelers on both sides of the ball up front, which is really something you haven't seen from the Lions the last. couple years is pretty disappointing performance from from those dudes up front. There's just too many games when you look at their yards per carry, which is just like it's pretty reductive, but you're like, these aren't Lions numbers this year. And I know we're

focusing on the offense more than the defensive. The defense is the group giving up 44 points to the Rams and shit. But I mean, when you talk about what made this group great, it was that offensive attitude. It was that we can pick up any. we'll run trap on third and five. We're going to go on fourth and two and you don't have an answer. Or it's like you just can't stop the bleeding in the run game. So when Jared Goff goes to hand the ball off and turns his back,

you've got linebackers pulled up into the A-gaps and I'm going to hit the dig behind them. Like that's the lions, man. And if you don't have that domination up front, it really throws the balance off. And so I worry about them in the future from that standpoint. Culturally, I don't.

I think they got the right coach and everything, but they have to make some big, not big swings in personnel, because you're talking about positions that are easy to actually acquire, guard centers, interior offensive line, but you have to be fucking surgical this off season. You can't miss.

You can't miss. You got to get right back on the bicycle next year. And of course, they're not out, but, I mean, Packers got to, what? Packers got to lose out. Packers need to lose out, yeah, for the lions to get So, I mean, and listen, they are a different team than they were last year. I think it's okay to admit that.

I know it's like a year of fighting it, but totally different team. They can get back there. But again, we don't even know how big the Ben Johnson void is. Like, I really don't know the answer to that question until somebody new comes in to call the plays. All right. Real fast, the end of this game saw some pretty wacky, wacky stuff. The pool report said that Chefers said the official called the foul said that the receiver created separation, so obvious pass interference from Amman Ra. There was a couple plays before there was a touchdown called. What do you all think of the Tesla?

I didn't think it was that bad. I thought the Tesla thing was a blown call. Obviously, I'm on the other side of it from a gambling perspective, so don't shoot me. But like, I just, I didn't think, I didn't think that was an egregious one. Obviously, at the end of the game, I got no qualms about the way that game ends. The only problem I have is the NFL looks consistently underprepared to, to quell concerns that the NFL is scripted.

Because, like, literally every person that breathes through their mouth, is staring at the TV like here they go they're you know like they're telling them what to do here um no it was the right call it was it was it was the right call it's it's um it's like last week when sam darnold fucking threw that time on the right side and you know you got your your whole the nfl's rig crowd going look at the way they did the completion thing obviously and you're like well but wait wasn't the ball completed you know it's this is the right call and they took fucking five minutes to get there to the point where It's surreal watching.

I've never seen this before. Aaron Rogers and Jerk Goff standing there watching the replay. The replay together to see like how does this game end? There's dudes like at the hash. Like the sideline has moved to the hash. Nobody knows what dude. Fans are like ready to have a connoissell there. It was clearly a push off.

Amina Raus St. Brown clearly interfered. And his forward progress was probably stopped. But if it wasn't, even so you can't end the game on an offensive. penalty like that. You don't get another go on that. So it was the right call. It's just like the NFL can't get out of their own way on the presentation of getting to the right call. And that's a theme that's popping up a lot. Yeah, definitely. As the vantage point improves. Right. Our vantage point continues to outpace their ability to call the games effectively. And certainly the complexion of that play didn't help at all because you had you had Amun Ra called for the penalty on the pushoff.

Then he catches the pass. Then he's driven backwards. likely a stoppage of his forward momentum. Then he pitches it, and the referees have to determine if it was a forward lateral or a legal lateral backwards. And then Goff runs the ball in when half the defense is just standing around me. He ran right by 94, who was celebrating the fact that he thought the Steelers just won the game, which they ultimately did. But it was certainly a complexion, a very complex play that the officials were certainly

unprepared for. That was a shit show. Golf thought he was going to have his Trevor Lawrence moment. Nope. And again, you know, for those of you who are a little bit more sensitive and tender, I don't think golf is a great quarterback. He just, he has to be in a certain kind of system like most guys. You know, again,

like here comes again. This is a good way to think about quarterbacks in the NFL. There's a couple in any weather quarterbacks. There's quarterbacks you can win with. There's quarterbacks that you got to win in spite of. And I think that golf is definitely a win-with guy. He's not an any weather guy.

I'll tell you what, you put him in fucking Cam Ward's offense. It's going to be an ugly deal. You know, I'm just, there's just certain guys that, you know, things have to be set up properly for him. So that doesn't make him a guy with a lot of strengths. I mean, he's got some fucking strengths in his game. Talking about a quarterback that has just about all the strengths and can win in just about any offense, Justin Herbert. We already did the Panthers breakdown. I'm just joking.

I'm just joking. Him too. No, Herbert, Herbert, man. Okay, like, we're not going to talk long about this game. The Cowboys are officially eliminated. This was their first game playing for nothing this season, which is an annual deal for them. But the touchdown to Quinn Johnson,

you've got Beckton falling at your legs. Like, he gets run slam over on the play. It's kind of a perfect encapsulation of their season. You got this statuesque quarterback. Like, it's like a fucking, he's like a jugs machine. back there. He's like a jugs machine that you can turn sideways and like that runs 20 miles an hour. And the ball was such a dot. And Quinn Johnson, his good play is elevated to like a really good place. So like when he plays well, he's a real, he's a weapon for them, right? But with Beckton

falling at his feet with everything with the offensive line, like that's what this season's been all about. And then there was a ball late in the game. There's deep over to Johnson in the fourth. And I told and all and I turned him, I go, you guys, this fucking ball looks teleported. It looks like he teleported the ball. I heard the space goes thing. You know, like it was, it was crazy, man. It was, and then it's just like right here. Receiver puts the hands up. It's right. No, nobody's throwing the ball better than Justin Herbert considering what he's got to deal with. Yeah. The stuff that they've gone through up front, Reid put it in good perspective yesterday. He was like, listen, I saw a stat with like, like all the Cleveland Browns changes up front, their offensive line. Chargers, like, double that.

Nine different starting offensive line combinations for the Browns, 16 going into yesterday for the Chargers. It's obscene. Do you know how many times the Chargers season looked over? Yeah. And sure, do they have to avoid the meltdown that happened, you know, like when they went to Jacksonville, that was an ugly deal, right? this team's floor is probably a little lower than you'd like it to be considering everything going on with them but the way the defense has started to play late in the season i think getting away uh the pressure he's been getting on people truly mack just really really good defensive football and another future head coach in jesse minner but you talk about a culture they flashed the fucking harball stat in his

second year up there what have i been saying since he got hired I said, I was in that division as a young, as a young boy, a wee lad in the NFC West, and they had a guy named Mike Singletary who said, you can't win with him, can't win, you know, the whole thing, Vernon Davis. And then Jim Harbaugh comes in. And he's like, you know what, this fucking roster's pretty good. I don't think anybody knows it, but we're going to be in the NFC championship real soon. And it was like, and that was a strike shortened season for him to get them to where they got the first year.

and then the second year, he's exactly on schedule with the Chargers. It's almost like he knows exactly what he's doing. He's got the same damn offensive coordinator and Greg Roman, who, like, I got to say, I'm impressed. I didn't think he's a rocket scientist or anything like that, and I know he takes his lumps and people are always going to nitpick, but they're doing this without a lot of guys out there. And it wasn't like they had the biggest stable outside that, you know,

in the NFL coming into the season. So this is an incredible coaching job. It's an incredible quarterbacking job. I mean, the ball he threw that I talked about in the fourth quarter, digs undercuts this pass, and 25 other quarterbacks are, that's a pick. So I know some people can't take the glaze. They don't want to hear it because they've been mad at Justin Herbert since his rookie year because he had shaggy hair and he was 6'5.

And he's from like the West Coast. And maybe he didn't want to talk to Laura Rutledge two weeks ago because he wanted to celebrate with his teammates. Oh, 8, he did, talk to Laura Rutledge. This guy's a fucking, he's a stud. And it's okay to finally admit that what you've been seeing is real. They have as good a chance as anybody to make a run,

and that's a wild thing to say, considering everything they've been through. Yeah, defense's playing a top 10 group. And then I thought the run game was actually a pretty good yesterday, too. 5.3 yards per carry for Ameri and Hampton. They were working the gap scheme stuff really well, which obviously lends well when you're playing.

the Cowboys, that kind of one-gapping style that creates vertical seams. Yeah. Vidal should get a season-long STO Memorial Award from us, just for that stretch in there when, I mean, they lose Harris, they lose Hampton, and he jumps in and Herbert's like, oh, man, I got a little Robin over here. We can hang out. We can do some good things. I got from the chat a couple, Justin Herbert needs to show he can handle the playoffs

before he gets placed in the top of anything. Well, tell that to Dan Marino. The grumpy old dad, he's got an Eagles logo next to him. Man, come on, bro. Like, just you're being a homer. You're being a homer. I know what you're doing. You're projecting.

Justin Herbert's an incredible quarterback. Ask anybody in the NFL. Ask anybody in the NFL what their top five, six quarterbacks looks like this season. They're not saying, well, Justin Herbert hasn't done it in the playoffs. I know we just said it for Trevor Lawrence, but the lows have not been Trevor Lawrence low. no offense to Trevor Lawrence that's the way this thing works it's a body of work combined with what's going on right now

and and I think what's going on right now is evidence that he's a capital E elite quarterback this season this season this season so um put belt to ass the charges and obviously the jags are much better and the jags are maybe the best team the season ended right of all time super bowl super bowl for the jaguars Well, not to mention the Jags have the mental edge over them. Every time they go down to Duval,

they get fucking, either blow a huge lead or they get their ass kick. I don't know that they can beat. There's a couple teams in the playoffs that I'm like, man, I got to believe it to see it with the group they have up front. The travel, maybe, that long? In that game, it wasn't the travel. They're like Mr. Brad.

They just got their ass kicked. No, that was Liam's coming out party. They got their ass kicked, yeah. But guys, I mean, like, I, trying to let you in a little secret here like adults we actually the way we talk about quarterbacks at the adult table like Justin's always mentioned at the kids table maybe not but at the adults table we're always talking about Justin Herbert when all your favorite players and GMs and head coaches get together the people that you respect

they're talking about this guy the tape water talking about this guy um Trevor's last year at the kids table oh my god huh is Trevor's last year it might be he's moving up he's moving out about to kick someone off the the grown-up table yeah so um yeah for the people who are in denial i ask what your take was three years ago i think there might be a correlation um okay so you're you're half of you were probably the ones that thought toa was better yeah so uh probably shouldn't drive a car they should probably have a check at the dmv at the last it's a box you got to check is it's justin herbert or two a better okay bill speaking of another elite quarterback let's talk about this shaddor sanders i love it i love it i'm just kidding i'm just

kidding no i mean listen this was a kitchen sink game for the bills this classic trap spot they the the the cleveland browns play a lot of teams close at home if you don't know that coming into Cleveland now at this point. Like they beat the Packers at home earlier this season. There's a whole bunch of these games sprinkled in, especially like early in the game where teams just like, I don't know what it is. Well, I'll tell you what it was yesterday for the bills. Their defense in the first half was atrocious. When you talk about ball control, you talk about kitchen sink. They ran, they ran plays in this game, Cleveland did that people run like once a game. They ran them like three times. Like jet sweeps, reverses, the whole thing. The run game was cooking. Juggins,

that injury is huge. And obviously that doesn't matter this year because the Cleveland Browns aren't going anywhere. But like, I would argue he's the most important guy in your offense, man. And that's tough to say about a running back because that is the, you know, the thing about running backs is they get hurt. But the guy's got such a bright future and he should be a centerpiece for you guys. And here he is in December getting hurt. And I don't know when he's going to come back next year. That's a really tough deal for them. So, but I think talking about the bills. They kind of end up in this game where you're facing a good defense in Cleveland and you kind of feel like, hey, if we really decided to, we can go down and end this thing at any

time, but they play with their food. I thought there were situations where Brandon Cooks has got to catch the ball, man. Like I love Brandon Cooks. Branden cooks a couple weeks in a row killing Josh with the drops and then Knox in the end zone, bro. They were just, they got to put this team away better than they did. I thought the defense in the second half played up. I thought Milano, for people that watched the bills, he fell off, but now he's kind of like playing a little bit better. And the way they're using him, like the lack of pass rush and as sorry as they're on the run fit, if I were the bills and I were Sean McDermott, I would be blitzing backers every first and second down. Like I would just be trying to create havoc. And I think Milano is doing a really good job

right now. He's always been a real good short area, quickness guy with good instincts, but like, they're using him as kind of a knife in the run game. And he's creating some off schedule, or some out of sync plays for offenses. So Rousseau rushed his ass off. That's not saying much on that left tackle over there, but he rushed his ass off. And, you know, some really good late game tackling, Bishop, Teran Johnson. Again, the Cook touchdowns beautiful. They get a five-man front. They check them into a counter look. They pull the center. Knox can't even get across the formation. Cook gets the fucking line of scrimmage.

There's two guys standing right there. He dices him up and reverse his field three times. He's a great player. There was a moment in this game where Miles Garrett damn near had Josh, and they gave him half a sack on that thing. How would you rule that sack? They gave him half a sack in the almost safety one? Yes.

He didn't even touch him. Yeah, he did. It's like if Mason, if Mason Graham's not a rookie, I don't know. I don't think he's getting half a sack there. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's Shelby Harris. Yeah.

Miles isn't getting a part of that. But is that? Yeah, that's crazy. I thought they tried, because how many sacks did they have in the game? Total. Yeah, I mean, that's the one. That's the one they gave him a half on. Yeah.

Yeah. Even if he didn't touch him, like. um i i think they were like kind of giving them the pressure okay he pressured him into a sack kind of thing but it was definitely a little yeah yeah it's it's like a it's not a bret farm situation it was close that it was close to that josh was josh was josh was josh's being a big dummy where josh was like josh is running away from miles she's like no i don't want miles to sack me and he lost like a 10 yards i'm like bro like just throw the ball away or like take a sack like You almost gave up a safety.

He almost got hurt. He did get hurt. Went to the locker room with like a foot. You could tell that it was a foot because it looked like they were going to go like tape it or something. We'll see how that affects him next week. They do play the Eagles. So listen, I think for the bills, that was going to be a knockdown drag out a little bit. Like the Browns at home.

And if you're wondering how Shador played, I thought he did some okay things. Like they just, they don't have to trust him. Why would they? In that game, they're just running the ball up the bill's ass. And everything's a boot or a screen. You know, I thought there were some games the first month, because now we're going to like five weeks of Shador. Has it been five weeks?

Four or five starts now. He's made some really high-quality throws, but you want to see everything between the high-quality throws, like, you know, the timing, the rhythm, improved. So I think that's a marathon, not a sprint with that quarterback. but the Browns don't have to make any decisions on anything. They're, you know, they're not going anywhere. Five starts for Shador.

Five starts. Yep. But you know, I will tell you this. I love the way he's conducting himself at the damn podium. We always talk about this, you know, and he does it with a smile on his face, which I think is a really good quality. He seems like a likable kid where it's like, hey, was it the right decision going forth or two?

He's like, come on, you can't ask me that question. He's done this a few times where he's, he's, basically saying fuck you without without saying it and he's got a smile on his face which really works and uh i think like for everything he's had to deal with from pressure standpoint i like seeing him stand tall there and just keep doing the right thing at the podium because uh that's all you can control you know he's letting those reporters know that they can't get away with that kind of stuff which i think the reporters kind of they like a little bit like that little back and forth he i mean you said it a little bit up and down for him um the final drive displayed everything

He threw that great ball to Corley for the first down. Kind of moved him into a, you know, like they were one play from, from taking, or tying or taking the lead. But then he was sacked. And then he felt pressure, drifted back, and almost had that intentional grounding. That's right. Out of the back of the end zones. Yeah.

A lot of good. He was this close to doing the Orlovsky thing. Orlovsky was. I think this is a good opportunity. I think it's a good opportunity. I think it's, who do they play this week? week. I feel like I had it in my head and... We talked about it.

Browns? Steelers, right? Yes, Steelers. This is a great opportunity. Steelers won a fucking win. And that's a defense that made Dylan Gabriel look like, like couldn't operate. So if you want to, I mean, listen, you've already won the battle with Dylan Gabriel. I think that ain't saying much because they're both like down towards the bottom of league and a lot of key metrics. Actually, like, ironically, in some of them, they're like,

It's like 3940. Yeah. Okay, so, you know, that, that, if you're a Browns fan, if you're a Shador fan, you definitely want him beating out Dylan Gabriel, but that's not really the end of the road. The end of the road here is to over the next couple of weeks, like, really prove that you can, you can make all the throws against a hungry defense. Now, taking into context, that this offensive line is pretty jacked up, and you don't have Junkins in the game.

So I did think Kevin Stefanski called a great game. I know he's everybody's Mussolini now, but, uh, and, Tommy Reese. Yeah, he's like an Axis Powers person, but like, but yeah, him and Tommy Reese cooked up yesterday. I thought they had McDermott in a blender for about half that game. Juckins, it was announced earlier. Juckins will have surgery to repair a fractured fibula

and dislocated ankle. He's likely out or will likely make a full recovery of four to five months. Somebody said he's better than Herbert with the media. Well, then maybe he's, I mean, you can't even with some of these, stands. Quarterbacks turn people into like stands. They really do.

Like me, I'm up here having a good time, but like, I'm not going to be in a chat room arguing with people over a quarterback. It's just I'm not going to do it. You know, it's not going to do it. Texans Raiders. Texans Raiders. Oh, no, this is your game, buddy. Yep.

So obviously, just starting with the big thing you look at the score is like, man, and what happened to the, how were the Raiders able to produce offensively the way they did? Looking back through the tape, it was pretty much just a few explosive plays that allowed the Raiders to put 21 points on the board in this game. If you take away those explosives, there wasn't much going for that Raiders offense. But those explosives, the first touchdown drive, Gino hit Jack Beshe on an explosive passplay at the end of the first quarter. He just kind of, Bash kind of ran away from coverage on a deep mesh,

and then a couple plays later. Bowers on the stick nod, beat Kaelan Bullock there in man coverage. Bullock, I thought, played really well otherwise, but just kind of an eye-disciplined thing. I caught looking on the backfield. Great play by Bowers to hang on through catchpoint contacts from Miles Bryant there. Then the other two were two big plays by Gentie. 60-yard touchdown reception. The Raiders split him out wide.

He pulled toe-toe out there for any linebacker in the league. That's a fish-out-of-water situation being out on the perimeter. Gentie just blew right by them. And then Gentie had a big touchdown run as well, 51 yards. It was an inside zone play. Texans initially fitted up pretty well, but the linebacker to that side kind of tried to fold over the top, make the play, just got caught out of his gap, and they bounced it.

So I thought the Raiders into your offensive line, they were able to generate some displacement there in the run phase. And I think if the Texans defense has a weakness, that's where you can get them a little bit. in the run phase on the interior. They're just a little boom-buss. Either a detackle, slips a gap, creates a negative, or that interior defensive lines getting rolled off the ball.

So Raiders did some good work there and kind of put that on tape for the rest of the league whoever plays this defense in the playoffs. But on the other side of this, I mean, the Texans offense, you're down Woody Marks in this game. And I think it was a pretty sloppy day for the Texans offense overall. CJ missed a lot of throws, especially early.

on in that game and you know they had to go to georre jordan a little bit more probably than they want to um i think he can be a rotational back in this league just you know he's he's more suited for the perimeter stuff as opposed to the between the tackles things they asked of him in this game um but yeah it just for the most part you know when you look when you kind of telescope out to the playoffs performance like this from texans offense i think it concerns you a little bit because the run game for them it hasn't reached a level to where you really consider it a strength It's more just like a lever they can pull and get into manageable third downs.

So when CJ's not nails, they really sputter. Yeah. Offensively. So it's just kind of kind of come down to CJ hit and throws down the stretch. Well, I think that defense is the key to everything. And hopefully getting Woody back at some point helps them.

And they were down as he used to in this game. Yeah, that's a big deal. He's a fucking, he's an incredible player. So I don't know if it's close. the time what are we doing now is at the end of it you're gonna go get lost am i getting lost in the triangle in the triangle in the bermuda triangle the bermuda triangle as i walk over the triangle somebody said herbert being an antisocial weirdo isn't fair to hate on him for but i think it's still another aspect of his personality that has limited him in his career thus far he's not an alpha

i'm sorry i platformed you Herbert no but he's not an alpha he's not an alpha he's dating a pop superstar here's the problem alas it kids here's the problem people conflate you know forward facing media engagements with like how you lead a team a room you know what I'm saying like that's the part

well you don't know what you don't know out there and that's okay I'm not going to get up all worked up about it because I love Justin Herbert but I'm not a stand I just do this for a living all right time to go to the Bermuda triangle I don't know Jim this one might disappear Safe flight down there.

Thanks. I appreciate it. Do you have any pot? Usually I have my pen. I forgot my pen, but I see a bowl sitting right there. Why don't y'all make like a NASCAR pit crew and pack me a bowl? All right? No.

I can get this fucking show over with. Welcome to the Bermuda Triangle. I got a few games I want to cover here. And I'm going to kick it to my one of my other Bermuda Triangle. triangle sideline reporters, Mr. Nolan Mert. Nolan Mert, I'll give you a second to open your umbrella. A lot of rain here. Yeah, you know, I'll start with the, I'll start with the Bengals and the Finns.

Evidently, Joe Burroughs happy to play football again. It's amazing what playing in the sunshine and torching the Miami Dolphins defense will do for your love of the game. You've got, you've got a route. And Quinn Ewers, my boy, let me down, you know, really wanted him to go out there and light it up. Like I said, my kid wears Miami Dolphins, PJs, and, you know, it's not fun for me to say I hate the team that he kind of likes his side team. I would love if they would find the answer at quarterback. I'll get, if they find the answer at quarterback, they might be one of my side teams.

How about that? No doubt. How about that, dude? Malik Willis. Malik Willis might be the guy. Might be the guy. He pull him out of Bermuda. He can pull him out of Bermuda. Listen, there's not really much to talk about with this game. So I want to give it to my correspondent here, Mr. Nolan. He's, where are you? He's on the fringe of the triangle, and he's going to talk to you about Cardinals and who else played in this fucking game, Falcons? Cardinals Falcons, yeah.

Chris referred to this as the Bird Bowl earlier. I think you could actually take that a step further. You can actually see the Super Soaker in the shot. And you could call it the Dead Bird Bowl from the standpoint of playoff chances. That was the two squads we had playing in this one. fitting, Chris, that it was played in Bermuda because between the interceptions thrown in this game, one from each QB

and 13 total PBUs, there were a lot of lost flights. Yeah, what the hell, dude? A lot of lost flights. That's perfect. But on a positive note, B. John Robinson, 2,000 scrimmage yards. He reached that mark this season.

He 92 receiving yards, 76 rushing yards. I can feel the wind as I'm delivering here. Third Falcon and franchise history to gain 2,000 yards from scrimmage for him. He did it right up the road from his hometown in Tucson. Obviously, a league leader in that category

ahead of James Cook and Jonathan Taylor. It's been an STL memorial type season from our guy. Thank God for this umbrella. And another shout out, Kyle Pitts, followed up his career night versus Tampa. Good day at the office for this. for him of this one seven balls 60 yards and a TD um Chris you'd be interested to learn that the British

overseas territory of Bermuda uses the Bermudian the Bermudian dollar as their official currency Kyle Pitt's gonna make a lot of those this spring and free agency so um shout out to Pitts archbishop wood alum as am i roll vikes any any philly locals in the chat well good for him Back to you, me. All right.

I thought you were just going to earhole me with that shit. Man, I told the guys to dress him like Bill Murray and Caddyshack and fucking spray him with water. Man, oh man. Okay, so that was good. Hopefully, lettuce is unscathed. Unscathed. Great Angela. That YouTube plaque is, uh, didn't fair.

too well, though. All right, let's talk a little bit about Jet Saints. Cam Jordan and Tassam Hill possibly playing in their final home game. That was, that's bittersweet, man, you know, like you get to kind of stop and appreciate their greatness, but you might not see them in Saints uniforms anymore. I think Cam Jordan is one of the all-time great Saints. Just an unbelievable player, man. When you're around Cam Jordan, you understand what he's all about, which is extreme physicality. Like he's just the biggest, strongest, most energetic kid in your class. You know what I mean? Like the kid that doesn't know his own strength.

That's Cam Jordan. And that's kind of how he played or plays because he had another sack Sunday. And he made $800,000 on this sack. Dude, this was a big going away gift for Cam Jordan. If this is the last game at home, man, it was a pretty fucking profitable one. He was one of my favorite players to watch always in the NFL. like one of the last pure power players like really to have over a hundred sacks think about guys of like pure power imagine jared verse having 130 sacks or whatever he's going to end up with

i'm talking about cam jordan you're like because you watch jared verse and you're like damn dude he's undeniably a fucking reckon ball he he's a block destroyer but he's not going to be the finisher to have like perennially 10 sacks a year and you see you know rams fans going to through it right now where they're like oh he sucks he's not fucking bro he's a beast cam jordan though to play like that and to still be able to finish on the quarterback for 130 sacks in his career guys unbelievable unbelievable tip of the cap to man cam jordan and also um tason hill who for a long time i was like i don't know if i like this guy you know don't know if i like him like what are you you your quarterback you're running back you a tight end swiss army

you don't really talk any trash on the field you don't really talk any trash on the field you You just run through motherfuckers. It seems personal, you know. But he's had an unbelievable career in somebody I have a lot of respect for. Also, Tyler Shuck with the win. Getting Shuck tonight. You're getting Shuck to Midnight. You're getting a shock to Middye.

Okay, Vikings Giants. Not a lot of people at this football game. Cowboy, maybe you could look up a shot of the stands and throw that up during this segment. I think people would really enjoy that. We got a really. a witty in this game a white gritty

oh white gritty we don't you know white gritties not a big fan I think that's a poor example to my kids because it makes my kids think they can do it and they really can't they look pretty silly doing it also j j jay mccarthy heard his hand my first reaction

when he heard his hand was that he tore a ligament I don't know if there's been any reports out yet but like the way they grabbed his hand on the sideline because I bro my right hand okay this right hand here i can't flatten it i have a plate in it um from trying to tackle marshawn lynch with only my hand which was a big mistake but it was all that was available to me at the moment i was i was tied up with like breno jacquimini and others but um i you know like i had

pin sticking out of it remember that do you remember this when i had surgery on my hand and i had pin sticking out of the hand they left the pin sticking out of the hand they were like go go go home go rehab i got fucking pins sticking out of my hand dude what yeah used to go to the bar and go and like you know like party trick and pull it out no like not pull it out you just pull them out okay bend them a little bit like and that didn't hurt it did hurt it's a party trick you ever see all about the benjamins what when the guy all about the benjamin's he has his wrist like he has he has screws sticking out of it that's what happened to me bar around it yeah that's what to me. But it was more subtle.

Why? St. Louis medical dude. It was crazy. It seems like malpractice. Yeah, well, I ended up with a plate in my hand, which is fine. But the point is, we're talking about JJ McCarthy. Like, when I did my hand and they tried to move my

thumb, it's like the same thing. He like jumped. He like, you know, the pain is so sharp and so bad. Like, who the fuck is calling me? How am I getting service in the triangle? Oh, it's Lane Johnson. I don't want to call him back because I'm live on the show. He'll be, you know, I'm live.

I'm live on the show. He's watching you. Send me a plane. He's, no, he's watching the show. He's calling you because he needs to come rescue you. He's like, yo. Do you have something to say? No, I'm not going to ask him that.

All good, brother. I'll call you later, bro. Man, so anyways, I had a fucked up hand. And when JJ, they grabbed his hand, my first inclination was like, that looked really bad, which sucks. Because I said coming to the game, like, that's kind of his audition. Like, if he doesn't play well down the stretch this year, they're going to be considering all options. And now you might not even be able to get to see it. Right.

And the dude after the game, supposedly, he's in the locker room like this. Hold on. This is some crazy shit. You want to see what JJ McCarthy was like in the locker room after the game? Supposedly he's clapping with his bad hand. So just poor awareness to not see Brian Burns. How do you not see Brian Burns? You've got to get that ball out.

I think that's what the hots are for. And on the other side of it, it was pretty interesting because the Giants who have found their quarterback. And last week I said, yeah, you know what? You guys asked me. I said, Cam Ward should be able to meet with the fucking head coaches. You guys were like, Jackson Dart? What about him? and I thought for a second

and I said, yeah, Jackson Dark can meet the fucking head coach's. I'm taking away his head coach meeting privileges because they didn't even trust him to throw the ball. Bro, like, you go in the machine to see his passes.

The first one's five minutes left to go in the first quarter. I think they were in like 15 plays without fucking throwing the ball. Like they came into this game and they were like, no way. And then they proceeded to run like multiple two-man routes. Like he's back there ducking and dodging people.

So bad deal, Jackson Dard, bad day at the office, Brian Flores, not fair. Maybe Brian Flores is auditioning for something. Do you think about that? No, no, no, no, no. You think about that? What do you think about that? Blitz like a mofo. Don't you, what do you think about?

Yeah, hell yeah. Good fit in Miami. Good fit in Miami, yeah. Yeah, they say in Miami, though, they don't like hard coaching yeah you know you gotta be a cool guy in Miami well all the coaches they fire because they coach too hard usually end up going somewhere and really shit in the bed you know like Vic Fangio or brian flores right so um anyways enough on that game oh abdul carter my dog as shout out abdul carter who happens to be a terror he just hadn't had this

statistical output to prove my point yet but he's going to be all right guys um he had like i don't know bunch of stats yesterday i'm watching him they use him as like a lineback or like a floater kind of like they use will anderson against uh who was it a couple weeks ago he just ran through the oh colts was the colts bordalini just ran through bordalini it just fucking line that big sobby up and they're like just go do your worst on the center with abduel carter they're like you got a three-way go dude how's that possible because you're Abdul Carter because you're always on an edge. He was unbelievable yesterday attacking edges.

Love the kid. Dexter Lawrence, I've got to get closer so I can read this quote. Was asked if Abdul Carter's performance today shows the rookie can respond to criticism. He says, yeah, for one week. Lawrence said, Lawrence added greatness. Is that wild? Like, God damn, Deggs. Hey, tired of these rules.

Yo, that's the, those are the vets we had, though. Yeah, that's the response. Like, I'm tired of this fucking ass rookie. He thinks he's hot shit, and it's like, bro, it takes some times. Like, yeah, you have one good game, but you're not hot shit. This ain't college anymore. No one's kissing your ass. Bro, we're having a losing-ass season.

And, like, you got to be prepared to go out here. Yeah, no, I get it. I get it, Nate. I get it, Dax. I get it. But the kid's going to be really good. Kids are going to be good. You know, and, and,

And I want to stand up for my dog. He was not watching pornography in the meeting room. That ended up being a fake story. Did it not? Bet a bunch of you were shocked in the chat. No, seriously. I was walking around for a week thinking this dude was watching porn in a meeting. Because none of the, like, how many players want to jump in and comment on that, but nobody, there was no like, yeah, what kind of fucking story is that?

Of course he wasn't doing that. Well, I don't know this. I've heard some sick stories about people. Seriously. Sickos. Seriously. Um, anyways, Jackson Dart. I don't know, bro. I don't know. Um, okay, Chiefs Titans. Chiefs Titans. Jeffrey Simmons is ineligible. He, he never reported as eligible. Did anybody

watch this game? Yeah. Did you see what happened? Yes. Do you know what the total was? Enough for that to keep it under. Yeah, brother. Now, Jeffrey Simmons is a big man. He wears red sleeves. He's got an arm brace and when he runs on the field you can't miss him and i saw him do this so as much as i was on the side of the under i'm going to file this under the dan skipper kind of thing where it's like they just got it wrong he said after the game uh i mean i'm a defensive player you see i wear a big arm brace and a red sleeve looking right at you and i'm throwing my arm up and rubbing my chest is that what he said right here i just said the same thing you make a good point you're right here you make a good point Jeffrey. He said he thought he thought he was too big to miss. I thought so too, dude. When they miss Dan

Skipper, bro. Or the situation like that, unreal. They go back and replay all this stuff. Why can't they just go and check that? Because that's something that, you know, if you miss it, it's so pivotal to the game. Okay. If I clearly did it, that should be reviewable. That, that's what I think. That should be reviewable because it's hard for the rest. The argument against everything being reviewable is this. is eventually, no, we're going to get to a point where everything's going to get litigated, which would slow the game down. If everything could be reviewed, then we'd be stopping every play to say, like, hey, there was a hold over there, and they'd spend, you know,

so they don't want to set a precedent to where, like, everything's review. I totally get that. But when it comes to something as, like, innocuous as reporting or dead ball, like, you've got to be able to review shit. Because you also should be able to review a fight. Yes. That would be lit. Yes.

Yeah. that seriously how many how many times is the first guy the first offender gets away scot free and the second person always gets caught and the sometimes the first offender will do a harder shove or a bigger somebody somebody it would yeah was it burden burden punch somebody or got away with it or i think so anyways for another day for another bermuda triangle last thing cam ward um made some throws that were unbelievable if you have the internet if you have a friend with the internet go watch seriously fucking guy it's like baby incredible baby Patrick mahomes out there seriously and i can't wait to watch um zero star the cam ward story on tubby do you know this yeah i've seen the i seen the zero

stars trailer the trailer everybody needs to get fired like everybody yeah because that's Because there's no rivals.com. Burn it down, dude. Zero stars. Major arm air against this guy. Okay, last thing, and this is a bitter, not bittersweet, this is just bitter. Bitter way to end. The only logical thing to do with all these new stupid fucking stadiums is to get rid of Arrowhead, right?

Did you guys hear about this? Yep. What happened? Arrowhead's going away. Arrowhead Stadium. Going to Kansas. Arrowhead, the lease expires after 20-30. The Chiefs are going to relocate to Kansas pending approval.

Three billion-dollar dome stadium, 70% publicly funded. How far away is the difference? Dog, it doesn't matter. Like, no, it's a good question. You're saying like geographically or when is this happening? No, no, no, no. Like, for them, like that stadium's going down. Is it like two hours away from where the current instance?

stadium is well everything's two hours away from the current stadium because it's poorly poorly laid out city okay but yeah but here's the problem so this is a good thing for them ultimately well here's why they think it's a good thing because they're going to get the super bowl oh but i thought we were done doing super bowl and cope oh it's going to be it's going to be a dome once every 20 years they're going to get a fucking super bowl and you know i i just it's an iconic place the NFL only has a few more and yeah the renderings look cool got it but that thing's going to look dated in five years in five years it's going to look like 2035's version of a toaster seriously because that's the way all these new fucking stadiums look they look cool the first year and then they look

stupid as fuck and there's no there's no atmosphere there's no dude one of my favorite experiences as a as a sports fan was taking some edibles and watching patrick mohomes and josh allen at Arrowhead in that playoff game. I'll never forget it, dude. The vibe of that stadium is unmatched. It is like retro as fuck. You got character. You got charm. But you just said it's in the middle of nowhere. I'll drive. Dude, you could put the new one in the middle of the city. You can put the new one in my backyard. I'd rather drive three hours to Arrowhead, dude. Arrowhead is, it's a church, dude. It's a football cathedral. And now it's going to be some, you know, soulless, sterile, football megachurch where the elements that make this game great don't even matter.

Damn, how many more years in there? Five. Yeah, that least is out in 2030, right? Is that fan even going to be out? My man who was Robin Banking and ordered the games? Who? Chiefs of a Hulk. He might not even be able to see a game in his.

Well, I mean. That's the stadium. He was robbing Banks. They need to put the Hunt family behind bars, too. Yeah, if they're going to be a real airhead, dude. He's getting out the next time they're going to do a stadium. This is ridiculous. You guys don't seem fucking as perturbed as me right now.

I can't hear Bo is. I'm mad. I'm bothered by this. Arrowhead is a fucking elite stadium. It's probably my favorite away place we ever played. I think outdoor stadiums are elite. And I went to that Texans' Chiefs game last year in the playoffs. It was cold as shit, but it was an awesome football environment, man.

Think about something about barbecue and tailgating for a dome. It just doesn't sit right with me. I'm bothered. I'm perturbed. It's great. That's going to be some bullshit. The new stadium is going to feel like gentrified barbecue. Fucking, Kansas City, bro.

Arrowhead, the smell of that place. We're the same ones that we're saying that it's too cold to play out there when you see helmets chipping off from hits when we're out there, right? And listen, that's football, bro. You can't listen to it. You can't listen. Listen, I love Kurt Warner. But Kurt Warner wants indoor football.

I've heard him talk about it. He's like, bro, like, we deserve to see these quarterbacks playing in perfect circumstances. No, we deserve to see them battling the elements, man. That's what makes it great. Your kids... The way the game's supposed to be played. Your kids, chances are, your kids in 2040 are not going to know what it looks like to see a football game with snow falling. Oh my God. Think about that. That's insane. Don't tell me that. I'm just telling you this is the, this is it starts with, you know, some shitty stadium nobody cares about like Qualcomm. But then next thing you No, it's Arrowhead.

Candlestick. There's always college. It's bullshit. Yeah, there's always college. Let's save you. Woo-woo. Good to see you. Man, that's awesome.

Welcome back. Do you care about Arrowhead? We did, you know? It's fucking terrible. Yeah. Rough one. So, hey, we're glad that we're back out of Bermuda. and

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You're good. I want to know. Eric Henry out of the game after 120 fucking yards on the ground and two TDs and looking absolutely unstoppable. It is one of the worst examples of coaching malpractice you've seen in the last few years. Because I can't for the life of me think of a reason. why they decide to do that. Thanks. Mad about Derek Henry not playing.

Yeah, dude, I'm mad. I'm mad, too. I'm more mad the further I get away from it. It's like, you know, when we, we lost the AC championship a couple weeks ago. I took it like a man. You know, I went to sleep like 30 minutes later. But the further way I get from that motherfucker,

I'm just mad, dude. I'm getting mad. The more I think about John Harbaugh and assign hypothetical like reasonings in his head for why he did that what would satisfy me dude like why would he be out of the game uh

he punched a fan in the stands yeah that's a good one i was about to say Derek Henry said something to him said you're a horrible coach i don't know yeah but think like john has a reason i wonder what it is and i think has she has he answered today I don't think so. I feel aggrieved, dude.

I feel like fucking aggrieved. Some people were chasing. Phone call number two. Hey, fellas. Sad Lions fan here. Chris, I know you've been called a lot of names by Lions fans this year, but personally, I appreciate you. Thanks, man.

Helping me manage my expectations for this team. Been pretty spot on. The Greenlight preview did miss on this game a little bit, though. Dr. Fax, didn't prepare me for how the Steelers control the cops. Excuse me, plucked in the third quarter. Anyway, let me know what you think the lines need to win a bowl next year. Green lights still my favorite NFL coverage. You guys are welcome in E-Course anytime.

Oh, fuck yeah, dude. Well, we will be bad. We run E-Course, boy. I keep thinking about E-Course. I think I keep thinking about like maybe we should go back. Like, I try to pitch it like for a family vacay. We got to do it. Like, babe, I know this trip to Florida looks good and everything.

To Detroit. But look at the deal I'm getting on this Airbnb. course we're gonna build character as well yeah pool table in the basement there's a pool table there's a punching bag full of cement yeah I broke my hand on it how is an all-d those steel pins in there yeah yeah yeah it was wild though it was wild so you can you see the scar can you see the scar you zoom is that is it no we're not on a TV set I can enhance yeah I see it but anyways John Harbaugh on the absence of Derek Henry at the end of the game, he should have been in there.

Jim said that he should have been in there. He should have been in there. Fuck me, dude. That's fucking insane. I love it. Blame it on the coordinators. That's insane. That's not what I take care of.

I think that the NFL, what's the guy's name, 94 for the Bears? I keep forgetting his damn name. He plays a lot, too. Booker? Booker. I think Booker should get hit with a bill for like $400 million, whatever the handle on that game was. Honestly, I think, seriously, I know he didn't do it on purpose,

but that's the kind of, that's kind of what I'm on right now this Monday afternoon, dude. Oh, it's scripted, dude. It's scripted. They were like, Jordan, Booker's going to spear you in the face. This is a legit concussion now. Like, it's going to be legit. It's going to hurt like a motherfucker, but, you know, you can hang out in a dark room for a couple of days.

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We already voted on Best Flight. That goes on Michaela Benthouse. Worst flight. We've got Chris with the Packers, Bow, with the Seahawks' remaining schedule. And Nate also with the Packers. Nolan, how do you vote? Packers' Worst Flight. Packers' Worst Flight.

Packers' worst flight. Oh, wow. Look at that. Dude, I am running away. Boom. The fucking wheelchair astronaut situation, diabolical. Now that we got some distance from it. See what I did to you there?

sure you know what i'm talking about even i don't think i like that grass ship yeah how about bevel conway fellas nate what's your bevel conway our bevel conway is is the same mentions every week my guy no no no it's okay i've been here i know what he's doing He's filibustering silently. Yeah, come back to me. You're Babbel Conway? I can give you mine. Go.

I can give you mine. Go. The damn Miami Dolphins, my future side team. Thank you very much. Those beautiful Dam Marino, or Larry Zonkas, really, that they had on down there. I mean, it was an ugly day of football, weather-wise, and the whole thing, you turn on that game. It's sunshine. It's a lot of orange.

A lot of teal. It's a good look. Bam. Bo? I'm Bevel Kahn why, dude. I loved every single meme from this and watching the videos of the Jake Paul fight versus Anthony Joshua. The photos of him,

AJ, smiling right before delivering that knockout punch, followed up by Jake Paul in the hospital, his face looking like there's a grapefruit coming out of it. Dude, that whole thing was so good. I saw it. He loved that.

Just the photo of him, paused right here and his jaw shattered over it. Oh, I loved it. It was great. That's my Godway. I needed that. I feel like, you know, just some small injustices were righted within our world with that punch. More to come. More to come on this. And I got my bevel. Okay. My Bevel Conway is Liam Cohen at the podium after a big win. Yeah. Oh, you pick the Jags. That's crazy. That's the funniest shit I've heard all day. In the big market. Yeah. Talk his shit, firing back at Sean Payton after the win,

walking to your trap, take over your trap, belt to ass. I love it. That's right. Do you guys think Sean Payton intended that to be a slight? Or it's just a matter of fact? No. I don't think he thought much of it, honestly. But why say it?

What does it have to do with anything? Dude, if you were the president and I fear for non-Jags fans. Like, honestly, I think about some of the things you would like, you would do. Who me? Yeah. No, like I just, it doesn't matter. We just like, like the Jags do. We don't care about you non-fam.

I can't tell, though. But I can't tell because that's at least 30% of your analyses. It's not about you. It's about the others. It's not about, I think it's just the only games that he watches, you know? No, he watches more. He watches more.

I watched the terrible bucks. He's in here with seven TVs on. Hey, listen, bro, we got to live stream the, the playoff game at the very least. I know we couldn't do it this weekend, but I was ready. I'm down. For the record, I wanted to see you and Calbs. Oh, wow.

That's not good. Dr. Faxist, someone said in the chat. Dr. Factus. Yeah, that's a. Vote for Bevel Comway. Some people, they like the other teams. It's very bad. They like the box.

It's very bad. Vote for Bevel Comway. Not so nice to the Jaguble. was really not nice going to jake paul boat no one i'm going with the fins of the other gold dress uniforms there are other quarterbacks in florida i'm gonna go with the fins too i like those jerks what did he call to i hate the way you vote tanner i'm not gonna lie to him what did he call to that one time what how did he say to his name that one time because i don't evenly split it up like reed dude come on now y'all are just not even going to answer me how on hold on

you remember when Trump called Tua by name? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He put him on that exercise panel. Yeah. Do you remember that? What did he call him? Well, we got to sit through an ad. Sit through an ad.

God, people with ads in their fucking YouTube videos. Seriously, we just do it for the love of the game. I don't know, you did a pretty good zone read a couple weeks ago, Chris, when you're screaming at the mic. That was funny. Oh. You know him? He's a modern-day version of Lawrence. What do you think?

He's pretty good, right, Lawrence? Pretty good. He is Sequin Barclay. No, no, no. Just fast forward through this part. Toa, tag ovalia. Take it off. Tagovalia.

Oh, valia. Yeah. Yeah. Chris, you're running away with this one. Damn, real? One for Nate. Well, you're really going to like my anti-bevel. All right, let's hear it.

The puke, Wake Forest uniforms that New Orleans put on yesterday. Those things like, don't you have fucking focus groups for these things, man? That color doesn't exist anywhere. Like no one, consumers don't go near it. That color? There's a lot of time you saw a fucking car that color. These are some of the worst uniforms of football.

That was bad. Dude, that was such a bad uniform matchup. Holy shit. The Jets was bad too. And they put the gradients on the helmets on the helmets. and on the pants. Ew. I didn't notice that on the back of the pants.

Yeah. It's a bad deal. Why are you zooming in on taste sales? You know, I started zooming and I noticed it and then I wasn't going to stop. That zoom is. That's some cheeks. I like that.

Cheap up. What do you think, man? What do you think, bro? Eating oysters. Okay. These guys. Nate, what's your bantai? Anti-bevil Conway is going to the

shot of Trevor Lawrence getting hit in the small of his back on a dirty play by a Broncos player acting like he could not hear the whistle. It was a fun game. You guys won. Congrats. Now we're out here calling people like they're targeting kid out of here. That's the anti-stumble. And then Roach, you know, putting all of his body weight. And I didn't know that's the new penalty. That's how they call it now body weight. Yeah. I feel like that's a lot. I feel like that's. kind of shaman, but that's it for a different. But no, but they call skinny guys too for that. Body weight. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

Body weight. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I take those are my anti. What is this? Anti-bevel. Two mouthguards. Two mouthguards. Bo, what's your anti-bevel? Yeah, I was going to say the Saints uniforms out of pivot real quick. I saw this, this showed up on my timeline. The double mouthguard drip, I'm just can't get behind it. Like, call me an old head hater, but like there's something about

that. Like, I get that they're playing Miami and he's trying to, like, do their colors, but it just looks so bad to me. You can't use either. I'm not a fan. And he's rolling with a shy-y and a hood. He's probably got a mouthpiece on the inside there. They usually already have another mouthpiece on. Yeah.

Yeah. No, it's like I don't like that look. It's like spares. How does that not slow you down? That doesn't slow you down. That doesn't slow you down. Wouldn't slow me down. Blopping around.

I make me go faster. I got two fucking mouthpieces. It's like two wind. It's like two fins. It's like having a towel on your hip, bro. I used to have a towel on my hip. to make me feel fast. That's different.

A little swag rag. Do you ever lose the towel? I have to go pick it up? Be like I was running so fast. No, but one time I sacked Blaine Gabbard and pulled his towel as I sacked him and just threw that motherfucker up in the air.

It was cool as hell, but nobody was watching the game. So I'll just tell you about it. All right, voting Tanner. That was back when the Jags were suss. I'm going to the St. Tunes. Yeah.

Sun Tunis. Remember those days? I'm going with that. Damn, dude. That is such a great call. That look mystifies me. You see it a lot at the college level. I'm like, what is this?

I don't get it. I don't get it at all. Get off my fucking lawn. Yeah. Bo's on the board. That's horrible. Best seat, Bo, what you got? Oh, yeah.

Oh, my best seat got to have been waiting for this one. My best seat. This happened about midweek last week. Dolphins announced that quarterback to a tagliol. whatever Trump said is bench for the remainder of the season. My best seat is Chris Long getting that ESBN notification that Tua got benched. I know my guy was just grinning from ear to ear feeling so just well you know here's here's best seat. I'll give you a best seat and it doesn't have to be we never broke down the Seahawks from Thursday. I meant to do that that's the one I was sitting

there like you know I had I had to deal with it glasses bro. I had I had to deal with it glasses bro. I I felt like I had to deal with it glass I felt like fax and his jaggs thing you know but again i'm not going to make all my mentions about the sea hawks i'm only going to mention them once oh i got two takes landing well that's a good seat chris you you've been you've been talking about that for years you've been banging that drum for a long time and listen who is your who is my team in what he's he's rob low he wants everybody yeah the bills bro it's the eagles but if it's not the eagles it's the it's the it's the bills probably but i i kind of like players dude like i'm like that guy and all our dbs used to be like this where you know they'd be like hardcore like uh laker fans and then one day or

they'd be hardcore like heat fans and then they're not anymore like they're just following the player i like the players man because i think i don't know about you but once you play it's harder to be like a fan fan because you've been on the player side of it so you don't look at it the same same as before. You know what I'm saying? You don't feel that way. Really? Like in what sense? Not really. Well, I just grew up a big sports fan. I'm just not the way I was, dude. I grew up painting my face going to Panthers games. You know, like crying when the penguins lost, shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Watching hockey late at night. I'm not going to lie, dude. I've worn many of cheeseheads in my life. I was a huge Packers fan growing up.

Yeah, it's hard. That was my team. You're not going to, once you play in the NFL, you can't really. And you know what's funny? Maybe it's because what you're going to go, because I was a huge Giants fan? He goes, what is your team?

I was a huge Giants fan, and maybe that was the first team that I got picked up by. Where is your allegiance? Yeah, I just want to make sure. It's like the guy that, what kind of American? My team is, whoever the Jacksonville Jaguars have on the roster that way.

Do you see what he just did, though? I took a moment to gloat about the Seahawks, and he goes, who is your team? My team is whoever I pick because that's how I pay the bills. You see what I'm saying? I'm just trying to keep track with you, bro. I'm trying to keep track with you. Who is your team? Wait a second.

Didn't you put the Pats in the Super Bowl? Wait, now you're the Jags in the Super Bowl? So as analysts, we're supposed to put who we cheer for? As an analyst, I'm not allowed to lie. like different teams or tout my good plays, my good calls? I just wanted to know. I just want to know who you. I just feel like your team changes here and there.

See, there's an accusation in the question. That's all I'm asking. There's no accusation. I just wanted to make sure. I just wanted to make sure the Eagles were still. I said that I gave out the Seahawks to win the NFC West, which I should be running through the street on the internet. Fucking, you know, like, hey, look at me.

I take two minutes to take the victory lap and you go, who is your team? Who is your team? Because like someone, whenever their team is doing bad, all of a sudden, Bo Allen's not a Buccaneers fan. Oh, look, now he's pulling Bo in. He's just, he's a guy blindfolded just swinging. How about?

He's just swinging. He's trying to connect all. Here we go. A dog chasing cars. Speaking of, let's get a best seat. Best seat giving it to the legend Greg Olson at the Panthers game. It looked like a great scene. He got to see his old.

team where you're not really that team's not really in this spot to be first placed and then you're playing against the bucks and you get to go to a game and get recognized and you see the team win against a terrible bucks team and like you think I'm gonna be like personally offended by this no you shouldn't I don't give a fuck I know why are you lose like a party with my buddies on Gasparilla you just got all mad you just raised your voice you got that was his voice no your voice his voice you can have to put the other earphone in you're only getting one side you're right you like that senator i'm i'm not annoyed about the bucks losing whatsoever i'm just find

facts constantly irritating i'm not very subtle about it either i don't think bro it's just my best seat yo Chris my best seat best seat sorry to step on this beau but i got this thing about millennial dads millennial dads had a great weekend it was a major get-off my long weekend obviously had jake paul getting his job rearranged by joshua which i mean i don't i really on a scale of hating streamer types like i don't hate jake paul i actually have some respect for him because like no one wants to get knocked out in public but you know what i'm saying like at least you got to be able to be willing to kind of signing up for it though yeah and he

built a big thing um but it was nice to see him lose and then uh andrew tate getting dog walk by some guy i've never heard of that was incredible um and then jack dority who's like way to like way i like i don't even know why i'm aware of this person oh yeah but he and his little like uh minions who are all his size he's got one giant bodyguard and they like kind of get off on irritating people yep did they pick a fight Yeah, what's that like Dr. Fax? Getting off on irritating people? He called you Jack Dordy.

Fax Dorty. Seriously? Fax Dorty. That's your new name. A star is born. No, but this kid, look at this kid. They run up on this, what's this guy's name? He used to fight in the UFC.

He's like 45 years old. But obviously, I don't know why they did this. I probably did it for Clout. This is his thing to do that type of stuff. I know, but look at this dude. He doesn't even drop his phone. and he's just like, look at it, he's got his phone the whole time, and he's just, he's just dog walking little people. This is amazing.

Look at him. He just didn't have to kick that guy. And the funny thing is, the black guy is a square. And all of his friend, Doherty's friends are stupid because the black guy is his security. No, I know. And all those guys probably think that that security is going to protect them, but the security is literally only protecting Doordy. Yeah, yeah, that's true. Like literally only protected Doherty while all these other kids get beat up by this ex.

I just, you literally just. saw it. Doherty's, he's like grabbing his boys and then his guy comes and grabs him. Yep. That's it. Maybe the real. The guy didn't want to smoke either though. No, not at all. He threw like one punch and was like, all right, man, this is out above my pay grab. You're going to have to walk home. But the whole thing is, you know, I'm definitely, I'm not quite an old man yelling at a cloud, but I do not love the streamer generation. I'm just kind of like, man, there's a lot of fuck shit going on. And so I kind of enjoy it when

when one of them ends up in a bind. I got to admit that. L and a half. Yeah, I'm like a four-year-old man. Believe it or not, Bo, I'm not this type of guy. I actually had a situation at the river, like, probably like three. I'm not going to take a pass. Yeah, do that.

Three months ago. And there was a little freaking, I think, college age, high school kids. And it was literally about, there was just one bully that was obviously the cool kid in the group that was he was just bullying this one kid to get in the water the kid did not want to get in the water so he got out of the water and grabbed this kid's phone and this kid was like about to cry in front of all his other friends with this guy being like better come get it I'm going to drop it if you don't get in the water and it was to the point that I like out loud not being involved was like yo give him his fucking phone back and yeah and this kid literally could

have been like fuck you who are you yeah but luckily he kind of felt like oh like here man like take it yeah and the kid like and then like they were just being little shitheads they all like started laughing it off and they were yeah dude like but the kid after the fact he later he walked by to me and he was like dude he was like thank you a lot for doing that and it was just like there's just a lot there's a lot of people that that love an audience right now and that because the whole the whole thing now is like you you always have an audience so like of course it kind of you know it's ingrained it's not cool to be a shit back saved a damsel and distress not a damsel a little a little kid dealing with his shithead friends yeah good on you then he found out that he was like a titans fan

and he took his phone so um what's next so we're voting uh tanner where you vote uh i'm gonna do uh chris best seat uh with the two a news because you're kind yeah okay okay okay so bo's pick Yeah, okay. I was going to say, you're kind of older than you give off. I thought you were going with millennial dads. I'm like, you're itching to be a millennial. I feel like you're itching to be a millennial. You want to be one.

So you guys are called me that, but like Jack Doherty and that crew is literally Tanner and his fucking shit hip. No, but there's a, there's a distinct difference, bro. Yes, it is. There's like a knelt boy kind of vibe. That's him and he's not a, bro, he is far from that. Definitely not a number. Bro, he's a valley dude from fucking, he's from fucking. Over the mountain, dude.

He's not a Jack Dordy. You think he's far from it, but it's a thin line. It's a thin line. Who is your favorite team? Anyways. Okay. I wonder about you sometime. You guys haven't been talking about football for four or five hours a week on the air for the last.

Wait, wait, wait. You picked a team to win a division? Who is your favorite team? No. Go, though. Yeah. It's unanimous. Chris has battled valiantly.

Oh, I'm on to come up, maybe. Yeah, you are. Worst seat. Nate? Worst seat. Denver fans. All the day. Worst seat.

My, Worst seat is Denver fans. No. Because I was actually, I was actually going to give it to the Detroit fan. That guy pulled down, slapped in the face by D.K. MacG. But he might be lawsuit. He might lawsuit. Yeah, I know. He might be him up, dude.

He might lawsuit. He already had a lawyer issue a statement today. So he's definitely lawyer. So maybe we're sitting around that Detroit fan because maybe they get pulled into a lawsuit. Do you think as witnesses? They get like deposed? Yeah, like as eyewitnesses. And then they got assault case.

Are you thinking, are you imagining that they're like a jury and they have to be sequestered for like a week. If you were in that section, you have to come with me. You got to give me your cell phone and you're going to be staying at the Marriott for three weeks. Like, what the fuck? Nah, dude, I really need to know.

Lions games anymore. Oh, my God. Imagine getting Jerry Dooey during the playoffs, Chris? Oh, bro. Honestly, dude. Like a magic. Like in real life, it happens to people. What was it? Was it, uh, there was a funny show where the guy got out of jury duty

I think it was a curve. Was it cur, yeah. Who was, who was the guy who had to act like an asshole? He wanted to get out of jury duty. It was incredible. It was a great fucking episode. It's so good I remember it. Oh, my God.

Do you remember this? Is it the carpool lane? Larry wants tickets for the upcoming Dodger game before he can go. He has to get out of jury duty. Yeah. Oh, the Dodger game, bro. Yeah. The Dodger game.

Oh, it's incredible. Dude, I got a fun fact for you about that episode of Curb. Really? someone who was like on trial for murder and they found him as an extra in the scene. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Wow. What if somebody gets around in Detroit like that? Yeah. Exactly. Just because of DK. What if DK's undercover? Yeah.

All right. All right. I got a worst seat. Hit us. Uh, my worst seat is also Detroit fans, but it's not because you might get punched in the face by D.K. McCaff. It's because the end of the game, a bit of a confusing situation. Jared Goff gets a left.

from ARSB, tumbles into the end zone. Detroit Lions fans think they won. The refs are talking it all over. They get on the fucking mic. I looked this up because I thought it was so funny. The refusing on the field is a touchdown. You applause from all the Lions fans. And then just a pregnant pause.

He goes, however, the game is over in the Lions lose. All right, fuck all of you guys. We'll see you later. Oh, my God. You said we were watching the game. And Chris, you go, that guy's going to have his, tell everybody how their car started to get the hell out of you. Yeah, no question. No, I think it was, yeah, like, it was a fucking, like, it was the worst bungling of a call I've ever seen, considering the stakes.

Like, people are like, we won. Yeah. No, you didn't. Oh, my God. Sike. Chris, worst seat? My worst seat. I'm going to go last on this one.

You are, that is now. Okay, cool. This is kind of like the snake drafter in the gambling show. I kind of lose track. Worst seat. Golly. Broncos fans. JMU fans on the way back.

Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, they're probably really happy and everything, but, like, they're hungover at least. That's a long trip. Yeah, yeah. That's a long trip. We were the best group of five team this go-round.

Yeah, maybe so. Eat the brakes off Tulane. Yeah, that's true. I think we could have been here. All right. I'm not going to win. I just had to get one in. Tanner, what you vote?

We'll do Detroit fans. Which one? Yeah. Bow's Detroit fans. Those Detroit fans. I'm gone. However. However.

However. The however fans. However. All right. Hollow man. Oh, hollow man. I got, okay. Chris, go.

Yeah, I get NFL schedule makers. Look at Christmas. Rough one. Everybody, take a look at Christmas. You got the internet out there. Look up Christmas NFL game. We're going to have Bo Nix. We got Thursday.

12 p. Cowboys commanders. We got third string, Kansas City Chiefs. We got second string, Josh Johnson. We got the second string, I think, Vikings. The one good thing that could come out of this? What? It's a, how do you say it the right way?

A litmus test. Litmus test. Of if NFL is bigger than NBA. Oh, it definitely is. If we can get the viewing. We're going to win. If we can get the viewing. So maybe we're seat, we're seat NBA fans.

and NBA Adam Silver because he's going to be like, they are watching Brosmer. Brasmer just threw the ball backwards. Chris Oledoken? I got Wembe Njama here. He just jumped from the fucking foul line and then hit a fade away three-pointer, but you're watching Max Brosmer.

You really think we're still going to have more views? Yeah. Yeah. Damn. And we're not even going to be dicks about it. We're just... That's just how it is. Yeah, it's just how it is, man.

You might have guaranteed money and, you know, like, great life. lives, but like our sports more popular. Bo, who'd you have Hollow Man? Hollow man. Oh, I got a good one. I got John Sina. All right. You know, he lost his last match, as Chris discussed at length last week. Then Cooper de Gene is a pick in the commies game does his celebration, which is a five knuckle shuffle for those of you that don't know, all while you know, rumors about Cooper dating John Cena's ex, Nikki Bella are just circling, you know.

Tough seat to be in as your, you know, a young stud for the, for the, celebrating your, your, your celebration while, you know, being rumored. That's white or white crime. Bro, that's wild, damn, young whites don't respect. Older, older white great. Bro, and you don't want to mess with these John Cena people, dude.

That's crazy. You don't want to mess with them. No, they're almost as bad as of fans you know Chris no they're much different they're not bad they they're not in on it like you're like no no but they're like no but it's the fucking real deal holyfield man Nate holoman hollow man this is easy got to be dk Metcalfe I don't know how much he gets paid per game but the two game checks that he's not going to get and potential what other potential money he might lose for this stunt of basically just letting a fan like

mentally get the best of you. Like, it's not worth it. And it's not worth sending out two games when your team is, like, they really need you, and you guys are in the hunt. And realistically, like, you personally might be the guy that they try to pin this season on if it doesn't end up the right way these last couple of games without you. So I would feel like he's going to happen. What happened?

What about him? What happened? He suspended. for doing what I forgot you in the Bermuda Chargman no we didn't we hadn't hit that yet I did you got suspended for two games I'm just fucking with you I'm just

crazy a few yeah big a short all right my vote is going to DK Metcalf for Holloman Tanner put me down for DK DK going make it three all right you not a winner chicken dinner All right we've got a it's getting tight boys

Chris three Nate two Bo too. Hey, Bo. What is St. Louis Memorial? What is, what is, what is, what is, what is this, what is this, what is this mention mean? What's the definition of it? Somebody that balls out in a game that no one watches. Baller in obscurity. Who's your St. Louis Memorial?

Like, uh, my St. Louis Memorial. Thanks for asking, Nate. A game that no one watched, Taysam Hill. He had, uh, he surpassed. I don't know. He's like one of the only people to have over a thousand yards passing, rushing, and receiving. That is the only person to do it in the Super Bowl era. And I know that nobody watched that Saints game because their uniforms are absolutely fucking dog shit. Most games with a completed pass, a rush attempt, and a reception.

John David Crow at 22 and Tassam Hill just broke it at 23. Completed pass, rush attempt, and a reception. A dude was a fucking pain in the ass to play against, too. Yeah, you fucking, ooh. Bo, do you have a question? That's my St. Louis Memorial. Bo, do you have a question for Nate? Nate, what is your St. Louis Memorial?

I think it's going to go to, I think people watch this game, though. Seattle and Charbonnet, just something as simple as being the guy that pays attention all the time in meeting rooms. And when you hear a coach say, you always pick up the fucking football. no matter what you never know it is finally that was huge one of those teach tape moments where you hear something from a coach say they say it and usually you're like ah you know when it's got to win this is got to win this is the biggest thing this because bro like when they turned around and replayed that play because I was yelling like yo just pick up the ball yeah because it's something so simple but in the moment

you see so many guys let potential live balls just roll buy them and it's something that he didn't do anything special he literally just picked up the ball and end up being a two-point conversion and changing that game tremendously that's that's a good one there um i was gonna yeah one of the most popular games that everyone watched he did ask you the definition and then and then and then like like you were you were like being cross-examined and that was so confused and he's like i don't know if you saw the super bowl all right um oh man that's the l memorial you say

how about gardener minchews acl because it's not torn everybody came out of yesterday's game was like man guy tore his acl you can't tear his acl that's gardner fucking minchew he's got a special acl gardener minchews it's kind of a bummer though while that's true like there's only two games left you know i know it sucks is he gonna play it sucks but it's kind of it's kind of badass whenever was like, man, he had to have torn it.

He's like, man, I'm not that fucking athletic, dude. I'm Gardner Minshu, bro. Wear some jorts, son. And for a minute there, they thought he was. So he's not hurt? No, he's hurt, but not an ACL. Yeah. Different injury.

Like, he's not going to play. No, but that's a big, like to, how many times do you hear that guy's done? Like, I went to bed last night and I heard he's done. And then you wake up in the morning, you get the good news. You don't get good news a lot during, like, MRIs on people's knees when they say. Monday morning. And then here's the deal with Gardner Minchew. total fucking badass so his you know he he joins the group he was going to tear his ACL if it

you know if he actually tore it and he would have had played another um what was it like another series or something he played on it yeah like that he would have joined the philip rivers and carson wence ranks carson wence when he tore his ACL people are like why do you like carson i'm like bro he was tough his fucking nails man he tore he tore his ACL and like what did he play like two more plays scored a touchdown LCL and PCL too I think it was insane dude crazy anyways

winner for STL Memorial Tanner Taysam Hill yeah we're gonna taste them as well Taysome Hill Yeah Taysam Hill The White Tim Tebow

All right game ball Let's give it out Here we go Nate Here we go Here we go. Game ball going to Mr. Parker, Washington.

Number 11 from the Jacksonville Jaguars. If you don't know him, you should know him. He was the dude on the outside, making Riley Moss look absolutely horrible in space. He is a guy that used to be a former number four wide receiver and mainly kick returner and punt returner

who turned into a valuable wide receiver and he's been playing amazing with Trevor Lawrence the past however many games

and I'm giving my game ball to Parker Washington man that's a pretty fucking good one there I'm going to let Bo go whoa you're going to need to give me a second

we're getting mobile for this game ball oh he's getting mobile for the game ball I'm going to give the game ball I'm going to tell you who I'm going to give the game ball I'm going to give the game ball to Caleb Williams I think that wins just as big as the Jags win for that for that team

not do you know but like you think about kind of what that city's been through to feel like oh my God we really have a fucking dude and again it was like you could have done any number of things in overtime and we'd be sitting here having a totally different conversation the fact that he he made the throw of the night two throws of the night staring down the barrel of a loss

the division everything dude that was huge so I would give the game ball to Caleb Williams maybe not the most spectacular game statistically but got it done oh what is Bo doing here he's about to electrocute himself

on live YouTube he's like I've had enough of podcasting with you facts I'm fucking done all right this might not work making all my equipment around it's my game ball easy with the equipment goes to dusty

from antique appliance restorations can you see this beautiful job that he did on this stove the stove you were talking about stove that I've been just so thrilled about hold on a second what is it dusty dusty and wet appliances antique appliance

look at how shiny Miss Clavel is so Now, she just belonged to a 93-year-old woman named Caroline Wilbrecht. Made a lot of delicious food in here. Had it restored and Dusty just dominated. How old is she now, though? She is 93. Hold on.

You can see. He made a little plaque from this, Billbell. I don't know if you can see. Right there. That is sick. A little name tag. He did a great job. And I'm really excited about it.

So, yeah. What are you going to? It looks great, man, but I got to wonder how she's feeling right now. Somebody else is using her, her, you know. Let's ask her, Miss Clavel, how are you feeling? Pretty soon. I'm just saying, pretty good, Chris. Okay, well, it looks awesome.

Now, Caroline's excited. I sent her a photo, and she was just absolutely thrilled over the moon, excited to see that someone is treating Ms. Clavel with so much love and attention. Can I see the marble? You want to see the marble? It's a soapstone, actually. You can show even better. Tougher.

Tougher. Did you steal that from me? Because I feel like you stole that from me, bro. You went all Arc Digest in my kitchen? You're going to go on in production for a long time. There is that, there's Miss Clavel. Your lovely wife is going to be like, I don't know what happened. Yeah, no, I know.

I'm going to get home. There's going to be no counter. Yeah, but my actual game ball goes to Justin Herbert because he's a fucking stud. Also, falling for the hype, bro. it's just because he's tall. They're always easy on the tall quarterbacks. You're falling for the hype. Except for Trevor.

Well, because Trevor threw a shit ton of bad balls for like a year and a half, two years. All right. We're going to give our votes on three at the same time. Tanner Nolan, are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. All right. One, two, three. Caleb.

We restored the oven. We had one oven. One Caleb Williams. I have a Caleb. Woo. With the oven. Wow. Oh.

Oven should be a... I feel like... Dusty gets no love, dog. The nail polish. That shit was fire. That he thought that touch down. White nail polish? He had the white nail polish.

Oh. Ruin a white nail polish. No. Like when he did his little celebration of cold, the white nail polish... No, I was sick. You know what the coolest thing that he did was? After he threw that ball,

he put his hands right back in his fucking... Yeah. Well, because he also just like, to me, he was like, yeah, dude. Cool. Like, it's... It's over. Walk off.

Like, you know, Steph Curry taking a three-pointer, dude. I'm not saying he's Steph Curry, but in that moment, kind of look like one of those three-pointers. Chris and Bo, congrats. You tied for the Week 16 reaction. We obviously can't win them all.

I would like to dedicate this win to the Jacksonville Jaguars, who are a really good football team. By the way, little Duval last night, you watching this? I'm like, yeah, I'm like, we've got to get them on the show, dude. Bro, if the Jags do end up making the Super Bowl,

we have to try to do something with them now. No question. Like hands down, it'll be crazy. We've got a game in about an hour. Oh yeah, what do we think, guys, I need one. Can I say this quickly just randomly? Yeah. Have you heard this like this rumor about puka,

like never eating a vegetable? Yeah, Al Michaels. He's Al Michaels. How, like, first off, it's work for Al Michaels. How first off, it's a lie. Like, you've eaten a vegetable before, And it's just like, I feel like this is a stupid lie to keep going. And like people to be like, do you think Al Michaels is lying?

Yes. I don't think. You think Al Michaels is lying? Yes. For one, you don't know what you were eating when you were a baby when your parents were feeding you. Oh, that's an interesting take. No, like you can't say that you never had vegetables. I just feel like it's weird.

And it's something weird to brag about. Like, oh, I've never had vegetables. I don't think they're bragging. I think like the, when you find out the person hasn't had vegetables, it becomes like, like, hey, that guy, he's his fucking fruit. So when people ask you like, hey, you never have vegetables? Yeah, I've had them a few times. He said he doesn't eat vegetables because they cause inflammation.

All right. Pooker or L? All right. So, guys, what I really need tonight, what I really need tonight is a winner. And I think drum roll, I will be donating on the over. I thought you're about to say the under. 46.5 is the total. Yeah, I kind of like, I kind of like.

kind of like the over. It's also moving towards indie. So, all right, so if the line's moving to indie. You expect the Riley Leonard to play? No. But what I am expecting is that, like, there is some respect for the indie side here, and I'm kind of wondering how you imagine indie playing a close game. It's not a, it's not a handoff. I don't think it's a 14-10 game.

I think it's closer. Like, you're going to have a score in the 20s if you're indie. I think they can get to 20. San Francisco is going to score 27 points. And Colts. The Colts do not have a good defense. and Purdy was hooping last week. Purdy was hooping, as you put it.

And also, yeah, that part, the run defense. To me, the Colts, well, Colts are going to run the football. San Francisco is going to move the football, however they want. And so I like the over. Talk me out of it, Chad. Boom. Chad, are we cooked? Are we cooked?

We're pretty cooked. The last thing, just to cook a little more. We want to give a little shout out to you and the Chris Long Foundation, Chris. In 2026, the Foundation, the Chris Long Foundation is celebrating 10 years of Waterboys Impact and the 26 Conquering Killie will be the 10th anniversary

climb. Pretty cool. You're going with some pretty cool people. That's going to be awesome. Yeah. Who's going, Villanueva? Alejandro Villanueva. Nate Boyer. Nate Boyer. Oh, Gerald McCoy. I might be, and obviously

our vets, man. we've been doing this climb for a long time. Here's our little, our little, uh, BJ Gannum. We've got Jacob Rainey, uh, who we know locally there. Jonathan Lopez, you know, Mike Gaismar, um, Kevin Shears. Oh, who's in the bottom left? Whoa.

Whoa. So here's the deal. Here's the deal. They were like, I got, uh, if you ever want to hear the real scoop on climbing killing cowboy, you call me up. Well, I'm going to give it to him right. now. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to tell them, give him your don't do it. Listen. All right. No, definitely do it. You're going to love it. You're going to do a lot better than I did. All right. I'm going to just tell you that right now.

Just know that it's, um, it's beautiful. It's, you know, three or four days, whichever route you take of beautiful, lovely hiking. You know, you'll be with Chris, which is awesome. You'll provide some levity for you. Uh, but the last day is a fucking grind. And it's not even going up on that last day. It definitely is going up but going down from summit after you kind of reach the summit that is probably the that's that's probably the hardest part crank some niche I got to get all the way back down oh yeah oh yeah dude it's it's it's it's going to be hard it's going to be hard especially I fear for me uh I feel like I I have a feeling this year I'm a struggle you know what I'm saying like I'm just it's been a couple years of yeah I'm 40 now and I don't know what it's going to be like but I think you're going to crush it I think you're

going to smoke it. I think you're going to crush it. Like, you're built for this. This distance is you 100%. I have a feeling I'll be struggling right there next to you, but I do want to say thank you very much for allowing me this opportunity. Cowboy. I cannot wait. And I can't wait to decline with these other wonderful stuff. It was an easy decision. It's going to be an awesome experience. And again, like this is maybe six for me. So like it's, I can tell you every time's different. So I can't guarantee you how it's going to go, Bo puked on his shoes. But I think it's, I think if Beau did it again, he'd probably smoke it. It's just like it totally depends.

So anyways, we'll be a Super Bowl and then we'll be doing, we'll do that like two weeks after. It never stops around here. If you want to donate to the Chris Long Foundation and the Conquering Kelly Challenge for this season, go to waterboys.org. Also, the link is going to be in the description. Alejandro is also going to smoke it because he's got like a six-foot gate. You know what I mean? Like the guy's just going to be.

and how do you think gerald's going to do i think he'll do good i mean jes uh he's a workout strong well he's a bigger guy now i talked to him a couple weeks ago and he's still he's still over 300 pounds so that's i mean that the air's a little thin up there for 300 pounders believe me we're gonna be all right guys and uh check us out and i appreciate you all tuning in and and hanging with us for this long chat one more time give it up for the jags Oh!