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Episode Date: August 20, 2021

(01:36) - Hello, Layup Line and Housekeeping: Waffle House Update, Green Bay Packers Throwback Uniforms and New Clues in the Tom Brady MF'er Comment Saga. (17:17) - GBU: Macon Grades Chris' Fantasy Football Draft, Miles Sanders Gives a Hat Tip To Chris and Antonio Brown. (27:23) - Hard Knocks Episode 2 Review. (47:45) - James Laurinaitis on Ohio State Football, NIL Deals, Potential NCAA Conference Realignment, Best Defensive Player in CFB and Finding Crickets in his Audi in STL. (1:22:51) - Potential GL Camping and Fishing Trip. (1:38:28) - Daren Bates Talks NFL Training Camp, Practice Fights, Accidental Injuries and Memphis Rap. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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They'll be joining us later to talk about the worst things in training camp. We're in the dog days of training camp. And then we've got James Laroniitis. Many of you all remember him as a member of the Silver Bullet Defense over there at Ohio State, St. Louis Ram. and now Mr. College football. He knows all about it. He talks about it every day, so we'll have him in a bit. Mike, what's up, dude?

Did you say five athletes? Five athletes. I appreciate you. Yeah, no, that was the only thing you heard. Yeah. What did you play in high school for people? Tennis. Tennis, the sport of tennis.

I also played ninth grade basketball. I was eligible to play junior varsity basketball. Right. My skills were not up to par. I was told really though a glue guy did a little bit of everything I don't think I missed a free throw don't know that I attempted a field goal

but really a locker room guy not unlike yourself on the basketball team much taken now now tennis team that's a different story just killing fools yeah yeah yeah yeah all right well who you saying hello to

Sammamish Washington I couldn't even read the name of the doubt Well, I was hearing you say it wrong and I appreciated that. Samimish. No, because I did some research. Sounds like something Project Pat would change the name of a word to finish a bar. You start with Sah. It's Sammamish.

Sammamish. Right, that's incorrect. Samamish Washington, which is tough to go ish-ish-Osh right there back to back. Sammamish Washington. Hello! It's not tough. Osh-Gosh-B-Gash does it all the time. Tyler Lockett's from Sam-Mish, Washington.

and looks beautiful. Layup line, Reed, you got something for us today? Yeah, so nothing else matters. We got the meaning of this song. Reed's been, I've been waiting with baited breath. Oh, besides what? Nice. The meaning of the song.

Nothing else matters besides us finding out the meaning of the song. So the song was written by the front man about his ex-girlfriend. His girlfriend at the time, they're now no longer together, but it was about them long distance and having a hard time dealing with that. And he said that... Stop. That song's about a girlfriend, not even a wife? Yeah, and so that was what he said he wrote it.

He was embarrassed to play it for the rest of the band. And when they came out with the song, their fans were like, oh, you guys sold out. Like your songs aren't supposed to be about girls and cars. and it's supposed to be out hard rock. Hard. Listen, here's the deal, Cowboy. This is why young people create such beautiful art because a 36-year-old dude is not writing a fantastic song about a girlfriend.

A 36-year-old dude is barely writing a fantastic song about a wife. Young people, wife alert, apologies I would if I was a singer-songwriter. but most people don't feel that inspired. Imagine writing that song about a girlfriend. What's your nothing else matters? Podcasting. My children. Oh, podcasting.

Nice. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Cool. 1920s period pieces. You don't like my kids. For me. Quick update on the music front. I went on JJ Reddick's pod this week and Tommy's.

Old Man in the Three, we did a stupid fucking draft about bands that you would never want to get stuck at their performance at a music. music festival. It does not have a ring to it. It does not have a ring to it. I saw that graphic. Tommy won that draft. Good for Tommy. I mean, if you ask Tommy, he wins every draft. I think that the draft sucked personally. But surprise, surprise, JJ Redick hates Dave Matthews band. And I get it. A lot of people hate DMB. We live in Charlottesville. You know, people love to hate us. People love to hate Dave and Carter and those guys. But if you've never been to their live show, what's the point of commenting.

Me and JJ traded barbs over Dave Matthews and Mumford and Sons respectively. I would never want to go to a Mumford show. In fact, I actually skipped the Mumford show at Bonner and listened to it at the outdoor bar from like half a mile away. We're going to do a home and home.

He's going to come to Seaville, go to a Dave show. His mind will be changed. And I'm going to go up to Brooklyn with my fucking Chelsea boots and a leather jacket and a bunch of leather bound books. and shit like that and hipster tattoos and I'm gonna go to a Monfort show.

A bunch of hipster tattoos. No, these aren't hipster tattoos. Hipster tattoos are, they're like old, old, what do we call those? You know, the old sailor tattoos? You know the ones that are like, you have one here, you have one here, you have one there.

Sleeve tattoos? No, hipsters don't get sleeves, bro. Like a tribal tattoo? Like prison? I think you guys are wrong. Just being wrong in numbers doesn't make you right for the 15th time in two weeks.

These aren't hipster tattoos. tattoos. You guys haven't hung around enough hipsters. But when I go up to Mumford, you guys are all invited on JJ's dime. How about that? Sounds great. Okay, cool. Nate dogs B-Day today, rest in peace, but I have to go with a topical song, Man, I miss my dogs by Little Wayne. And I'm about to miss my dog. My dog's leaving. He's going to the beach. This is the last show you're going to hear of making Gunner for quite some time. Redacted days. Yeah, redacted days.

He doesn't want anybody to know he's gone so they don't go subsequently burglarize his house. I hate to tell you this, but the difference between you being at the house and not being at the house is there's not much of a deterrent with you being there. Now that you've said on the podcast that you're calling your dad at the first sign of a forced entry. well and uh good news for for my family and me uh we're going to have a house sitter oh god that's okay probably 30 lbs north of of me yeah and so house is going to be in good just a special forces guy yeah ferocious dog etc yeah so i would not i would not recommend we got cameras everywhere and as i told you chris if you have any needs real estate while i'm a gone you can hit me up 24-7 my friend the podcasting zero zero okay no problem i will be off the grid

with regard to a podcasting housekeeping reminder waffle house is coming up man who pays his debts eventually we'll see well i'm going to be there i'm going to be there for 24 hours we're going to again to remind you of the very unique uh punishment that we've come up with that evidently ESPN is doing. ESPN, New York Times. Listen, 24 hours, you guys know the rules by now. If you follow anybody on social media, chances are they've done it, but I got to carry out the punishment.

I plan on eating 23 of these motherfuckers and getting out of here in an hour, honestly, because nobody's going to care about what we're doing unless I really make a big splash and go Joey Chestnut. That's how we go viral. How many waffles can I stuff down my gullet? 12 and a half was the over under. I'm thinking about the 20s now.

I'm thinking maybe I could polish 20 of those off. I've always agreed with that. I think it'll be more like, yeah, I think I said 19 and 4 hours. Okay. Hey, I was doing some research for you. Okay. On the best methods for like an eating contest. Yeah.

I think you got the right mindset because they say that pacing yourself is not a good strategy because eventually the brain will catch up to the body and force you to slow down. It's called satiety. So you might as well just go, go, go as quick as you can. can right at the start. You don't think it's called satiety? I've never heard the word. Yeah, you just want to make sure you don't get satiated. Matt knows the word. Oh. Yeah. Satiation. Yeah. Are you going to stack? Are you going to be stacking? I don't think I stack. That's intimidating. When you stack them all.

What if you were to stack two, just stack two? Stack two at a time. I want to say, just bring me two at a time. And we're going to have a bucket of water for you to dump all your waffles in light on syrup and butter. Oh, no syrup and butter. But we got to make it authentic. What? Light on syrup and butter. No, you don't. No, fuck you guys.

I won't even go. If you all try to change the rules of the punishment, now I will skip it. Well, hey, I'm not with them. I'm with you. Well, I would prefer some syrup. No, I don't want any syrup. If I'm eating 20 of them, I want them dry. Crunchy ass went hard Y on that syrup.

Yeah, he does. He says syrup. Crunchy. He is crunchy. By the way, shout out to Bobos. They're sending us a bunch of crunchy. she has oatmeal bars and re-hidden, confiscate them all.

He hasn't said a word. He doesn't know I know. Oh, you weren't going to say anything. He was going to hoard all the Bobos. Well, I was told that Macon's not allowed to have any of them from Bobos because someone, Macon was shitting on the sugar content. Yeah, he was.

Shitting my ass. That was you. I said they were delicious. He was shitting on the sugar content. I picked them over the Kime bar and then you were talking about the added sugars. He was. I'm going to do what you do now right now and pretend that what you're saying, which is totally true, is false.

And then I'm going to act like I'm you and know what the word gaslighting means and say I'm being gaslit. I was getting gas lit on the Gatorade. This is a filibuster and a gaslighting. No, filibuster's a government procedure. I have a arm full of tattoos. And they're not old school at all. We have some good news in housekeeping here.

Good for us. We called it. It was Tannahill. He was the motherfucker. In the HBO shop thing, you talked about a team picking, staying with a quarterback over you a lot of people wondering national if that was Ryan and if so what do you think of Ryan as a quarterback I like Ryan a lot he's a great player so he's obviously a great year with that team and kind of a great job last year was phenomenal year before that he's great so I really like

Ryan competing against him a lot he's beaten quite a few times so and he's a great pair but he wasn't that in Mephyr in the shop did you say Mephyr all year yeah he wasn't that in Mephyr oh was Ryan yeah and Ryan is a great guy now. I like trying. I was just talking. Complete and total admission. Total admission.

It's always more about what you don't say than what you say. I really do believe that. And football players who are adept at dealing with the media, they always remember that. But Tom needed to realize that he's under so much scrutiny that maybe he should have tightened up the, I don't know, the tone, the tone gave it away. Like, I don't know.

think Tom could be an undercover agent at all unless he was trying to give that away that was it's Ryan Tannahill he answered the question with two questions where you're always like you answer a question you're buying time were you calling Ryan Tannahill a motherfucker ryan's a great guy what Brady was talking about Tannahill no doubt about it's closed like somebody bang a gavel because that tannahill is a motherfucker I like Ryan Tannahill on the record I just thought that's probably who we was talking about based on the context, clues of Rabel and just probably what he thinks of Tannahill and the confirmation bias from playing him in the AFC East

that even if Tannhill improved, he remembers the Miami Tannahill. So, Rashid Wallace joins Penny Hardaway's staff at Memphis this year. What would you set the over-under for how many technical fouls Rashid Wallace gets called for? I don't know. I feel like with Penny being the head coach, he's going to actually, like, if Penny's thing is like,

hey she'd like let's keep it under wraps this year he's going to respect that three and a half yeah i was going to set it in that in that range and i'll take the over it's a long season and i think sometimes like they might do a baseball manager type thing because he's not the head coach he might be the guy that they literally plant when things aren't going well to get a technical and fire up the team you know when the coaches run out and take a base off the you know they take first base and fucking throw it in the outfield and kick dirt up and shit like rishid can do that stuff for Memphis. I feel like Sheed's leash is going to be

about three texts before Penny says it's starting to impact games a little bit. I would have liked to have seen Sheed in the suit era. Oh yeah. He's just going to look so at home and team issued sweats on that side line. You know, like maybe a breathable polo at max. Right. If it's a big game. I've been on his

podcast, him in Bonzi Wells. They had a podcast obviously no more. The Green Bay Packers have released new throwbacks today. What do we think? Oh man, they're better than the ones that try to emulate the factory workers. I mean, like those, the brown and blue and yellow ones. It's always raining when they wear those.

It's always overcast. It's never sunny when they wear those. You're right back in the factory. And yet it's the same plain yellow helmet. I think these are fine. I mean, they scream Oregon. They scream Baylor to me. And Oregon just does it way better.

Baylor doesn't. Oregon does. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, if these take the place, which they probably won't of the yellow, blue and brown panted ones, great. But yeah, they're fine. Okay. I'm giving it a fine.

Like, we're about to go to good, bad, ugly. I couldn't classify it as good, bad, or ugly. Don't care enough about these. They're fine. They're just fine. But it's good that, like, it's a win in that, It's not a loss. Hey, by the way, I just got a little training camp news before we getting to get bad and

ugly. I have a picture of Antonio Brown punching the fuck out of somebody's face with no helmet on. This will be out of the news cycle within 18 hours, even though it's Antonio Brown. And if it were baseball, we'd be talking about it for six years. Who was the guy in Toronto that got stuck in the face? It's your favorite team. What's his name? Jose Batista

Take you a second there Did you need help there? No, I need help I don't think Joey Bats is still on my program though No, he's not But it's important to know team history It's important to update the record too

Better get going Yeah Antonio Brown punched somebody in the face Fights happen all the time Don't fight without your helmet That's the bottom line I don't know how I got there But when your helmet's off Like fight at your own risk in the NFL

and if somebody has their helmet off and they're trying to fight you without any more information I can't really be mad at Antonio Brown I mean there's there's there's rules and most of them are protective therefore your protection it's like putting a seatbelt on

you know it's like keeping your hands inside the roller coaster some other photos it looks like Antonio Brown actually ripped his helmet off and then punched him well that's that's a tactic as well Good, bad and ugly. All right, first things first.

I need you guys to rate my fantasy team. I did a fantasy draft the other night with Akib Talib. Call to the booth podcast. Shout out. Part of the Blue Wire family. Are we, yeah, part of the Blue Wire family. Also, Chris Carter's doing a podcast right now, joining the Blue Wire family.

All he does is catch touchdown passes. That's right. What do you want? You want a letter grade here? Well, just tell me if it's good, bad, or ugly. I mean, like, let's go through it. because I forgot who's on my team. Let me look here.

Okay. At three you went Camero when McCaffrey and Cook were off the board. Don't hate that at all. Don't hate it. Question mark being Drew Breez's, check down Drew is no longer there.

Well, it's almost like you want you want Taysam Hill to win the job or something. I mean, who do you think they're going to throw to? I think it's going to be all underneath unless James is taking insane shots. That's the one thing about James

that I wonder. You know, Bruce Ariens, you think about like offensive minds. Let's not equate offensive, the aptitude that a coach has to put points up on the board. Yeah, Sean Payton, Bruce Ariens, both like really like, explosive offensive coaches in different ways, though. I don't think James Winston will be allowed to take the reckless shots

and make the reckless decisions that he was allowed to make in Tampa in New Orleans because the rules are different. And so I'm hoping that whoever, is playing quarterback, it's going to be checked down city from time and time. Your best player is a guy who can catch the ball out of the backfield. I'm quite certain that you're not going to know the answer to this question. But is this a PPR league? It's half PPR.

Oh. Yeah, bitch. And my other league's a half PPR. Yeah. Oh, you're in multiple leagues? Yeah. There, fella. Okay.

I'm going to run through your roster, so we're not here all day. Camara, like it a lot. Gibson at 18. Like it a lot. Yeah, I like that a lot. AJ Brown at 23, like it a lot. Yeah, so far. DJ Moore at 38, do not like.

Okay. Waller at 43, like it a lot. 58, Robert Woods, like it a lot. Hey, Robert Woods, I fucked up and accidentally drafted DJ Moore over Robert Woods and like 14 picks later he was there. I was so thankful. Well, I did notice when you selected DJ Moore. It wasn't an accident.

It was just a panic pick. In the fourth round, you had feeling right there. Yeah. You had Mike Evans right there. You had Chris Godwin right there. You know, doing chalky stuff doesn't win the league. And wait until you get to LaGarrett's team. When you picked A.J. Brown, you had, you had decaf right there as well.

Oh, I'd rather have A.J. Brown. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, no problem. No problem. No problem. No problem.

Matt Stafford's your quarterback. You know, Julio Jones is there, but I think he's going to overcome that, uh, that ball sharing conundrum we have in Tennessee. Brandon Cooks? Mm-mm. Damien Harris? Wait, whoa, hold on. What's your beef with Brandon Cooks?

Oh, well, he plays for the Texans. Yeah, who else plays for the Texans? They lost all their big time weapons from last year. I reckon they'll be throwing it. You remember they had... Oh, yeah, they had Randall Cobb. They lost Randall Cobb, dude. Aaron...

And don't sleep on the Texans. They got Randall Cobb. Aaron fought a civil war for Randall Cobb. He was like fucking Helen of Troy. Harris, you just... You never know with New England backs. Debo Samuel. You do.

A lot of nine receivers. They run the ball a lot. Mike Williams, find that late. A lot of their run game is going to be the past game this year. I've talked to a few people out there. I feel like they're going to throw a lot of. Pat Stee for you.

That's creative. Logan Thomas at 138. I mean, I'm not a hokey, but that's good value. That's really good value at 138. And Nelson Agalore, or as you would say,

Aguilar at 143. And I think that's just great there. And Josh. Lambo is your kicker. Great name. Every time he, every time he kicks the ball, they say Lambo.

That's right. You graded the team. Can you also grade Chris's team name? Yes, Jerry Jones's McGriddle. He laughs. Nobody in the group. This is like a keep to leave,

Lagart Blunt, like a bunch of some people I don't know. Mina Kimes was in there. And I think like only Mina and myself understood the reference. People were like, who's Jerry Joneses McGritle? I was like, me. Silence.

Cowboy helped me tell me what I needed. You know, like keep track. He probably helped you with 118 Melvin Gordon. He probably wanted a Bronco represented. That was the one. That was the one. Of course. And people were like, uh, but he helped me a lot because I would have just drafted a bunch of fucking wide outs or something.

I didn't even know you needed to fill the other positions. You know me. Melvin Gordon. Who was sitting there then? That's a fine time for Melvin Gordon. Legerrett Blunt. Go through his team real quick. Okay.

L.G. He's got a solid squad until you get. to round 11. He went Zeke, Stefan Diggs, Clyde Edwards Allaire, we're not sure about that one. George Kittle, Julio Jones, Tom Brady, Kenny Galladay, yikes, hope he's healthy.

Chase Edmonds, the Bucks D, a little early in the ninth round, Marvin Jones Jr. in the 10th round. And in the 11th round of a 16 round draft, kicker, Young Wade, Coo! Good, you got it right. Legerrett did not get it right. And Mina Kimes has been the number one

enforcer of the pronunciation of his name for the last calendar year and I watched her face it was like somebody died inside Oh was this a live draft? Oh yeah it was a big Zoom thing It took two hours It was awesome

But you know I thought at one point I was like oh we only have two picks left Turns out I had to scroll down There were like nine more rounds And you wonder why I win the league were in Well I don't lose it and that's winning to me scrolling Here's a clip of Ligarit's Kenny G pick

I'm going to go Kenny G Look at my face Kenny G Listen If you make a bad pick In a league In a league with a keep

Thalib, he's going to let you know about it I mean A lot of fun being in a league With those two guys Leap's team here Toddry killed DeAndre Hopkins

DeAndre Swift Daryl Henderson Why are you going Rams backfield Mark Andrews He knows these guys He knows these guys He was a

a fine draft backs are bad receivers are good he was really excited about butker kept calling him butt kicker anyways he picked up Rager in the uh how many rounds is that 16th so I'd say you had a pretty decent draft

LG rate the drafts out of the three of us out of the three of you guys I like LG's team the best he gets an A you get a B minus Akeeb gets a C plus okay I have a side bet with a key so it looks like i'll be winning that that's right oh good so i'm in good there

so at least it's not bad or ugly hey your investment in the fantasy football is always going to be okay well that's that's going to be in good and then how about the this clip here from miles sanders carrying on the tradition how did he do at eagles practice hey coach uh did you get that rash fixed up the what the reds I had you had a raise I had a hamstring for I was making sure you was good you know what you're talking about

say how to the camera I thought you're going to the right thing would have done as you should have said your wife beat you in that 40 yard dad the hamstring ready yet so zero out of ten for Miles

don't try to be funny again no he's funny that was not good I like Miles man I fucking love Miles in fact and I'm glad he's carrying on the tradition It's not an easy thing to do. It takes practice.

I understand that you made it look easy, and it probably is a little bit more difficult to execute. That was awful. It's hard to execute. He forced it. I think one of the hardest things about it is you got to find the person that's miced up. Well, and they were both miced up. And you don't approach and say, hey, rash, rash.

What about that rash? Huh? Cop. The garrish, rash. Do you mean my hamster? And then Seriety was like, uh, you should have done. You shouldn't have done that either.

And like, oh, you know what I've always been, I've talked to you about? I approve it. That's good, just that he's doing it. I appreciate it. When you walked up to Malcolm, you thought he was telling you to get on the other side of them. Because a lot of times we'd go left to right and it was like, you know, there's kind of a, I don't know, superstition. I know I'd shit on superstition the other day. It's weak, you said they're weak.

Superstitions are weak, but at the time it didn't seem weak. Okay. Yeah, so Malk thought, hey, I thought I was going left or right and it gave me the time as I was reshuffling. And then you spit? A spit is a good. reset. The spit was a good reset. It builds trust.

Miles, the next one's going to be even better. So you're putting that in the ugly. Ugly. I'm not saying that. I got a haircut. Where's that fall? Oh, the good.

Your haircut's good. But you put a hat on. You're not owning it. Well, let me talk to you about that. I asked Lori if we could go a little tighter on the side. So what Lori did was go a little tighter on the size because she's a professional. And I think it turned out well.

Here's the thing. The camera here, it doesn't so much add 10 pounds as it takes like. two inches off the power alley. So I went hat to cover that up. And the only thing about the tighter sides is I don't have any of the little swoop. And the little swoop, I don't know, it makes my head look like normal shaped. You look like you have like somebody just injected you with a liter of testosterone.

What you said when I walked in was, oh, you look normal. There's a compliment. Implication being you look normal for the first time. that I've ever seen you. No, that's not it. But you look good. Good haircut. Thank you.

Shout out to Lori and Dana. She cuts my mullet. Besides your haircut. Let's talk about Hard Knocks. I say good. What say you? Now, we just had Shannon Furman on, so I think it was a great show,

Week 2 of Hard Knocks. It was excellently produced, brilliantly directed. Show his cheeks. I mean, the Dallas Cowboys America's team is providing very little content. Let me start with HBO Max.

Is it me or does the app not particularly work? I'm a subtitles guy now on everything. Every show I watch, I'm reading. Dude, I love subtitles and movies. My wife can't stand it. My lovely wife can't stand it. I've got the same setup. You don't read?

It's all so fucking dark as hell in the movie Pig. like Pig was one of the darkest movies I've ever seen. Like, and the people were mumbling. I need subtitles. I've, it's very difficult to podcast when you're fumbling your drugs. So, well.

You definitely couldn't be like an NFL quarterback. You'd be so easily rattled. The fan in section 316. He just looked at me. I can't take a snap. Yeah, I don't know if that's a great analogy. It's more like if,

if like, I was the president. and you were the vice president and you were spilling drugs all over your laptop when we were trying to do something. You know? Listen, man.

It's more like that. How about it's hard for me to roll this joint with you talking shit about Hard Knocks? Fair enough. Okay, HBO Max, subtitles are like three seconds behind from you. So maybe that's a setting. I can't rewind or fast forward

or really even pause on the HBO Max app. But that's not Hard Knock's fault. It's not the Dallas Cowboys. Well, Cowboy Reid had a queued up for me when I walked in the office. He's the man. Danucci. So he's shaving the top of the beard. He's shaving the cheeks, literal cheeks of the beard. Do you have comments on this? Do you do this? Yeah, sometimes like shave like the line in a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. Just cut the line in a little bit. It makes you feel really, uh. If I could grow a beard.

You would do it. Oh, no, no, no, no, no. You would just let it go. Yeah. You can grow a beard. You used to have a beard. But you were told to shave it last year. And you shaved it. You complied. Well, I complied after several months. You looked like, you looked like a fucking Patagonia commercial guy and it was cool. And now you look cooler than you did because of the haircut. I was praying Jerry Jones would not say something racist or xenophobic about the defensive line coach. And he managed it pretty well. Well, he managed to butcher the Winston Churchill quote. He goes, well, and he goes, looks like he's from Arkansas. Sounds like Winston Churchill. I thought it could have gone way worse.

Like I was holding my breath. Oh, well, Hard Knox wasn't going to put one of the richest, most powerful men in America, in football America, looking bad on the show,

only a little bad. He did butcher the Churchill, quote, I love that D-Line coach. Let me just say this about this guy. Massages. Massages, which, by the way,

that Basham kid loved his accent, and Basham seemed like a fun guy to have in your D-Line room. Fun character. Shannon, And yeah, but not as good as Boogie Basham, not to be confused with the Wake Forest Cater. Carlos Boogie Bash.

Oh, all-time name. We should have had him in the draft. Boogie Basham. I don't know how you would say, like we've already done, retroactively, let's put him in that draft. Okay. Or in that column. Yeah, no, I thought that D-Line coach was great.

Like, not only did he have the cool accent that draws you in, but it felt like he had the respect of the room and it feels like he's a teacher. I mean, it really does. I heard him drop a couple of jewels. He was talking about staying on a track and pass rush, which is a real thing. Like don't chase an edge. Like basically don't run up the field and gain distance between you and the tackle.

When the point is you have to run through him or around him on a tight corner. A little bit of like pass rush 103 there, but like generally seemed like a cool dude and stuck up for that Camara kid, who by the way is West African. Ivory Coast. Ivory Coast. let's call back to Osi Uminura, Uminura, the names today. I know, but we're getting right through. Osi Uminiura, who most people get wrong. In fact, everyone gets wrong.

He said that they're starting a West African league out there to try to kind of mine some of this talent that exists so plentifully out there in that continent. And this kid was close to the red jerseys. He got yelled at. You remember the point where he was pushed. He was pushed. to him. He says he was pushed. Here's the thing

about D. Lyman, young D. Lyman in camp. We're all trying to prove something, even the ones with contracts, and you're hungry out there. You want to show up on tape because D-line coaches, back to the D-line conversation, they miss so much. They'll just stare at a play and you'll have a great rush and they won't say a word

because they're thinking about their next break or like, hey, did everybody do their job? The X's knows the things I can get chewed out for because the D-Corpsator oftentimes doesn't know what a good rush looks like. Dan Quinn does. You can't tell me he's not into football up there in the fucking in the fucking booth screaming about a false start in the second preseason game and and to your point about touching the red jersey bin de nuci's do not grow on

trees no they don't grow on trees uh and and when our guy whiz by him a couple times which happens because guys are trying to show up in the frame you know they're afraid that if they don't show up nobody's going to note that they had a good rush which is totally legit you can have a great practice and no one notice in training camp but anyways this this kid goes back to his D-line huddle and this coach, who we should, what's his name, this D-Line coach? He played in NFL Europe. Derta?

Dirty, I think, actually. I think it's just dirty. By the way, you can tell he doesn't like Ted Lassau. Yes, he said he was aware of it. He was just like, I'm aware. He gave the Tom Brady non-answer about Tannehill on Ted Lassau. And guess where he's from? The U-Kai, might.

So he fucking gets it. I'm excited. He doesn't like Ted Lassow. He didn't chew the young rookie out. Usually D-line coach is a very assistant coach quality, and you've seen this of practices. When somebody does something like that, a Cardinal Sin akin to running by the Red Jersey,

the head coach yells, then you go back to your D-Line coach, and your D-Line coach wants to make himself heard. He wants to scream louder than everybody. And this dude was just like, hey, just try to stay away from him, good rush. I like this coach. I really do. Shannon told us that Liev gets his,

lines that Tuesday morning. So I presume he opens up his inbox, then fires open a microphone. He had to read this week, The Baby Powder has worked wonders for Zeke. DeMarcus Lawrence, dance circle pregame, said a lot of things. The one I transcribed was, quote,

we are going to eat lion shit. By the way, like he had a whole freestyle that they break it down on. And it was good to see D. Law. like really was because he's been one of my favorite players in the league now he he did double digits twice and he had like a really good run there where he was one of the best rushers in the league and the new defense came in some injuries the back surgeries they talked about that he was as dominant as anybody in the game and just so disruptive and played so hard you talk about high motor

that guy had a huge motor dude and so i'm really excited to see him back healthy seems motivated you saw him and his family on the beach there my first thing thought was these motherfuckers get to go to the beach on their breaks at training camp. I mean, that's just barely training camp. I don't care how hot it is. Didn't you guys eventually get to stay home? We did eventually get to stay home because really there's not a whole hell of a lot of difference. It's actually better to stay home because you're actually trying to get the most out of your body. You're trying to get rest. You're trying to get recuperation, that sort of thing.

Maybe what you just said about D law will make it on next week's episode because there was a media a montage about C.D.'s lamb. And Shannon said she would look out for our commentary about Hard Knocks. Oh, well, there you go. Shannon, if you're out there, CD Lamb, by the way, I got... Shannon follows me on Twitter. It's not a big deal. I got two words. I follow her. Yeah. Follow back situation. Well, I got... Does she follow you? No. Okay. She doesn't. She must really like you. NBD. Is that what you wanted to... NBD? Plenty of people follow you. What does this say here?

Can I get it a little closer? I don't know if I'm even pronouncing this. Trivden. Did we decide how you've done this five. I'm getting a little deja vu. Yeah, you are because this is my favorite candle. This is the Ernesto candle. It sounds like leather and like books and sounds like it smells like it makes a noise too. That's why this candle's extra special. But C.D. Lamb was saying he was a big candle guy and I know he's a cowboy, but I really like C.D. Lamb. Get some new candles, man. I saw the candle you had that looked like it was bought at the Hallmark store. You're rich now. Get one of these motherfuckers.

Get this bad boy right here. It's a Siri Trivdon and it's an Ernesto. So just up your candle game. If you're the candle guy, up your candle game. AD's eyes at that practice looked a little like Mike Singletary. Oh, AD, by the way, wasn't the first guy off the bus. I don't know what they're doing. They literally made that saying he's the most first guy off the bus guy of all time.

even though kind of like he's not because he's shorter but you know who he is he's got to be the first guy off the bus and did you watch that fight journal williams is is a bad man just for even trying there's a thin line between bad and stupid but i do think you know like he knew what he was getting into and kudos to him for even scuffling with aaron donald but when you watch arndonnell fight which i have watched plenty of times and watched him like throw people around and that sort of thing even when he's in what seems like a compromising position, he's very quickly out of it. If you saw Jonah Williams kind of bringing him to the ground and, you know, for a second, you thought, oh my God, this guy might like jump on top of Aaron Donald. Aaron found a way to like kick his feet out and pull Jonah Williams under him. And now he's back in the position of power. Aaron Don's the strongest person I've ever met. Hands down.

He never ends up in a bad position in a scuffle. And he did it wearing bone pants. Yeah, well, so where the bones. It's impressive. Yeah, CDs can. handles, you know, half time. They talked about this going and getting food. That's something in preseason.

Every vet knows we've talked about on this show. When you're done as a vet, it's one of the best feelings in the world. When they say, like, go into the half and it's like first team, you're done. And then you take your pads off. For older guys, you're done. And then you take your pads off. And then everybody's in there getting yelled at. And the younger guys are going back out there to play another three hours of football

because it takes forever. You load up on uncrustables. You load up on like cowtails. You load up on junk food because you're going to burn. it off and you go back out on the field. But when you go back on the field, make sure that the ball hasn't been kicked off yet because I've been on multiple teams where vets were shuffling slowly out of the tunnel. That's disrespectful.

It's disrespectful to the younger guys. It's disrespectful to the coaches. I've seen guys get fined $20,000 for doing that. Like literally being six seconds late out of the tunnel. So as fun as it is to get snacks at halftime, it's no fun if you take too long. And lastly, wholesome content. They had some wholesome content. You see those two international players, our guy, cake man.

Cake guy is a star. And some European guy. They were talking after the game. And they were talking about how like you got to be brave, you got to be tough, you got to look where we are. That was some wholesome shit. That was some really wholesome shit. You want me to point it out when I see wholesome shit. That was some wholesome shit.

Thank you. Clubhouse leader for the week in Wholesomeville. You are? No. That moment. Yeah. Okay. Also, yoga doesn't help when it comes to football,

not once a week for 30 minutes when you could just give us a nap. Hey, I couldn't help but notice in the National League East, the A Braves are three and a half up. Yeah, no, the Phillies, I've definitely cursed the Phillies. Ever since I made that bet, they made that run, and the odds got real, real basic. And I jumped on it for the content.

I want to ride this wave into October or the end of September whenever we wrap this thing up. Four and six in their last 10, losers of three in a row. Let's check the wild card. Four and six since I made that bet. Four and a half out of the wild card. Boy, they played a lot of games fast, huh? They lost a lot of games fast.

I looked up and I feel like people are going to start blaming me. So that's my bad. The Braves are now three and a half games ahead of our below. beloved Phillies. Your beloved Phillies. Yeah. Yeah. Sticking right there.

Rob Kohler. Yeah. Yeah. You don't have any bad. Is it nice at top. I'm snoring, I've been told. Yeah? Picked it up fairly late in life.

Well, maybe I live forever. Who knows? But I've been snoring. That's your bad. Not only. How do you know? How do you know? My lovely wife.

Okay. And I get like the push and then I'm like straight up because of the baby. The baby needs attention. Nah. It's me. It's you. It's me. to you just get that checked out she she's like and i can i can i'm on my back when i'm storing i'm usually

you might be the lightest guy with sleep apnea of all time i don't have apnea i'm i'm a side sleeper but then i when she pushes me and wakes me up i'm always on my back and i guess i'm like a turtle so i'm i'm sorry to my lovely wife who not only is is hearing the child but also you mentioned you mentioned i used to snore when i was a big hefty guy uh no i don't it's pretty awesome well i haven't I've been making games. You have been making gains. Maybe it's the gains. It might be the push-ups.

Yeah. Having trouble pushing air up out of your nose or through your throat cavity. Hey, Rob Kohler, he's drunk. He's drinking every night. I'm talking about, of course, my MLB, the show, created player. He's either drunk or, listen, I'd have slipped him. If he owes his meth dealer and ABQ money, I'd have. slipped him some cash under the table.

This is not how you need to, this is not how you do it, Rob. Will the show ever say like, all righty, that'll do it. You're out of baseball. I keep waiting for the manager, the little virtual manager when I get back in that little clubhouse. I'm just sitting there like an idiot staring at my phone in full

uniform all the time. All the time. I'm waiting for the manager to pull me in and demote me. But he hasn't done it yet. But like I said, if you wanted to throw the game because you're in some sort of financial despair. There's a ton of ways we could have done this.

Dropping your batting average 100 points in a week. Yikes. Is not the way, dude? Not the way. Is it a hitless streak of some magnitude? We sprinkle in a hit every now and again, but a week ago,

Rob was 340. When I went to bed last night, 220. I mean, so the guy's built like a fucking centaur. I shrunk him all the way down. He's tiny, bro. He's like 5'2.

Tiniest strike zone. Yeah. whatever is it centaur or centaur? I have a pronunciation thing, huh? It's cool. I was reading on the internet the other day that mispronouncing a word is like a sign of intelligence. Yeah. Because it means you read it.

You didn't hear it. Exactly. Thank you. Yeah. But this guy's like a cent tower. Okay. He's like a centaur. And he's tiny.

So my thinking and shrinking him all the way down back when I gave birth to this little digital baseball player. I shrunk him down so that he would have a small strength zone, you know, about the size of this tiny MacBook I'm sporting today. Like, nah, he swings it fucking everything. Okay? So like that, that backfired. And I can't hit the high heat because it's up at my fucking batting helmet.

And I want him to wipe this stupid look off his face. I'm starting to notice his eyes are kind of fucked up looking. Not to mention he's 34 speed. and my manager makes him steal bases like repeatedly. He is the, he's the Lindsay Lohan of stealing bases. Oh, I don't get that at all. She used to steal stuff a lot.

I think she got, I was a Winona rider. There you go. We got there. He's the Winona rider of stealing bases. I mean, he's getting caught every time and the manager's not helping. Every time I get on,

he's like, manager says steal base. Will you fucking come tell it to his face? Yeah, he's a 34 speed. the manager's not aware of this no i don't know i'm totally mind-fucked guess what i found myself doing last night resting the playstation controller on my vmo and instead of hitting square and x with my thumb to hit the ball i'm going index finger oh no your brain is broken the game is breaking me dude minosa line is 215 is it you're quite close golly okay i'm close i'm close but i'm totally mind fucked. I think the index finger pushes

they were working for a second. Then I go one for six last night. We scored 15 runs as a team and I went one for six. Okay? I couldn't even face guys on the bus. Like, couldn't even look him in the eye and I can't sleep until my guy's out of his slump. So 3 a.m. almost every night.

Like I can't go to sleep unless he goes two for four. So it's fucking up my sleep cycle. And don't tell the computer about dumbass Rob. Like Rob can't hit anything low or away. A breaking ball low or away, he'll swing it every time.

And if you could, hey, golly, as you say, if you could, isn't that what you say? If you can place the ball low and away, my guy's going to fall over on his face. Golly Day. So don't tell the computer, oh, it's golly day. Don't tell the computer that. I'm sending a message to the media and I really don't fucking care. Pick it up, Rob.

Or I'll unplug the game and power down my PlayStation improperly and erase you from the face of the earth. Why don't you try taking a first strike. I should. Yeah. Taking the first pitch. Not even the first pitch. Just wait until there's a strike.

Maybe get to two and one, three and one. Is that a thing people do? Yeah, if they're slumping. Yeah. Okay. That's what I do. It sounds like you're swinging a lot. What I need is Nick Kent to get over there in a hurry. Well, Nick Kent's about to take your spot. To Albuquerque and fucking help me, dude. He needs to give me some pointers because my man is just, he's more into the lifestyle,

which I didn't think was possible. They stick you in Albuquerque, like when you're like a Coca- cocaine addict. They're like, hey, stick him down there in the desert where there's not much going on. Well, this guy is, he's off the rails. I've had enough of it. Hanging with Jesse

and Walt. No offense to anybody that puts white powder up their nose. I think it's meth with this guy more often than not, though. Is Albuquerque? Yeah, that's ugly for me. Hey, you know what's not ugly? What? James Laronitis. Some might even say, James Lauren.

It depends. Beautiful man. He's a beauty man. James, I'm going to say this probably when I don't know what else to say when I awkwardly sign off, but like he is one of my favorites. Like he's one of my all-time favorite teammates. He was so selfless. He was so so underrated. I mean, he made so many plays for the Rams and, you know, we played in obscurity. So a lot of y'all haven't heard of him. But if you remember James, he was absolute heartbeat of that defense for years. you meatheads seem like jackasses. Yeah. And James the opposite of that. You can hang out

with him. Yeah. Yeah. He probably don't want to hang out with you though. Oh, that's fine. That's fair. Fair as fuck. Let's have James Laronitis on. So I got James Laronitis here. The guy who used to yell at me a lot. Now he's on the radio. He's on 971 the fan. Bishop and Loreditis for your drive home in Columbus. That's so interesting because

he just did say Bishop and Lorinitis and then your dear friend, you go, James Laronitis. He's the only person I can call me that. I've told him over and over, it's Laurenitis, but I guess when you're Chris Long, you just do what you want anyway. Well, I make it easy for you guys.

It's really fucking easy for everybody to pronounce my name, like really easy. So you just bear with me. How often do you hear Laranitis, James? A lot. A lot. I've actually growing up, I'll never forget this was playing hockey, and we were in some tournament, and

they were doing starting lineups as you do Minnesota high school hockey. And so the guy was like, James Lauren, Lauren, James L. I just skated out. I love that. I give him credit. I give him credit. At least he just did said the hell with this. And so that was, I'll never forget that one because I laughed and skating out to the blue line. Well, I finally learned how to spell it. And I'm really good at it. But yeah, I'm working on the pronunciation as well. James. I want to start with this Quinn. How do we say his name? Yours. Yours. Why is it spelled that way?

Patrick Ewing. You've had some practice. Got it, got it. Quinn Ewers, the kid, he's going to be a Buckeye. He's coming out a year early, I guess, and he's getting paid, essentially. Yeah. First off, the NIL stuff in general, how do you think it's gone the first month or two? And then with this high school kind of consideration that we now have,

how do you think that affects college football in the landscape? Yeah, I think initially it's kind of been the Wild West when it comes to NIL. There's just there's no leadership from the NCAA. And so at first it seemed like all of these states, right, that were passing laws for it, like Georgia and everyone that's kind of out ahead of it, seemed like, oh, they were going to have a distinct advantage. And then the NCAA comes along and says, no, what, there's actually, if you have a law, follow the law.

If not, make up your own rules. And so now it's like if you don't have a law, you kind of have straight freedom with what you're going to do in college and how you're going to police it. Chris, I think I think right now everyone's trying to feel it all out. I know Ohio State specifically has dropped certain guidelines here and there about kind of what's a fee to use the Woody Hayes Athletic Center where they practice for the football. Can't wear any of your Ohio State officially licensed stuff. Obviously, they're a Nike school, so you can't wear Under Armour, all those little details. But it's interesting. And we all want to focus on the guy who's going to be like, who's the first million dollars.

college football player. To me, that's not it. It's what's the old linemen that can get a free pickup truck to drive around? You know, these deals are great for all these kids. I just think there will be a little bit of a settling period as this thing lengthens out a little bit. Yeah, I mean, like we've all seen the videos. We've seen like heard the anecdotes like down in Miami, the gym that paid every kid a few thousand dollars for for just being on the team.

And then BYU the other day, some nutrition or supplements. Was it a supplement? It was built protein, I think. Yeah, dude. The guy walked in and he was just the rainmaker. He did one scholarship for a walk on and then two, and then it was like everybody stand up. It was Oprah.

You get a scholarship. You get a scholarship. Yeah, it was Oprah, dude. But I just like, at the end of the day, so far, it's going to be hard to kind of, like you said, there's a settling period. But my big concern going in, if I had any, was like, man, I hope the little people get paid too. and so far that's been the case.

I mean, at least in bigger schools, they've been getting paid. But when you talk about a high school kid getting paid senior year, what exactly is going on with Quinn Ewers? And kind of explain that for people that might not have heard about this. Yeah, so I guess what he was trying to do was get obviously capitalized on his name image like this. He was very popular, number one recruit in that class we're supposed to be next year. And Texas does not let their high school football players capitalize on their own name image and likeness, I guess. So he was for a while trying to say, hey, look, I can go to college

and do this. I'm the quarterback of South Lake Carroll. Let me capitalize on. I want to be, he wanted to stay in high school, essentially. He wanted to be a high schooler and to go through senior year, which is awesome. You know, when you think about to your high school days, he just couldn't make money on it. And so for him, he waited with his family and said, okay, I can go to Ohio State, reclassify, finish up some classes, which I don't know about you. I never had the academic prowess to just say, hey, I can graduate a year. early and just, you know, last minute, kind of skip there, but he was able to get it done. And so I know he has the holy kombucha, which he already advertised for, which must be

delicious. I want some. And then two, there's, there's, you know, a truck company here that's giving them a truck. I'm sure they'll pay them for appearances throughout the year. What's interesting, Chris, is that they've had three guys battling for this job all through spring ball and now the fall. I think C.J. Straub will be their starter. He hasn't been named yet, but he has a leg up according to the coach day. And he's taken most of first team reps. But if you're queen ewers, you made this decision to reclassify, go early, what if C.J. Stroud to do?

Like, what if he ends up being all big 10 this year? And then he's the starting quarterback at Ohio State for the next two years. Are people still going to be trying to pay queen ewers as a backup in the future? It's a very interesting timeline. They have basically four guys now that are freshmen because of the NCAA waiving last year's eligibility with COVID. So they have four guys that technically could claim their freshman And it makes it for a very interesting QB battle

Boy oh boy yeah you know with the transfer portal stuff And you know now with this It's going to be hard especially in log jam type positions To kind of forecast like who's going to be playing football For your favorite team at times I got to say I did not peg this kid for a guy who could graduate a year early Or what have you with the blonde mullet I'm a guy with a mullet

It's incredible A budding mullet But this guy is a fucking creative player. I mean, this is incredible. I'm really happy that the kombush is probably great. James, what would you have endorsed back in the day? You could have been on some tattoo ads. I paid for my tattoos for one.

Some would say I paid too much for them, but I paid for them. I think they're great. I think they're great for the record. Thank you. Thank you. And I got most of them actually when I was in St. Louis. But I did hear that from everybody. I'll never forget meeting an Alabama player one time

and being like, I can't believe they punished you over tattoos. And he was like, if they only knew, I was like, whatever. I just look, the, I think for one, you know, the animal would have had his hands all over everything. Oh, for sure. He would have had his hands all over. Our guy. I think there's a couple of things that I'm thankful weren't around. NIL when I played, although we could have definitely benefited off it.

You could have as well. but I think for me it was the fact that Twitter wasn't around when I was in college and all these podcasts. Because like right now we have all these parents at Ohio State that will go on podcasts. They're like become guests for like these, you know, recruiting podcasts and all this. And they'll go talk. And I'm like, man, I can't imagine my dad would have been on there for sure talking about I need the blitz more. You know, just like random stuff that wouldn't have needed to be, you know, talked about. Yeah.

And just been, it would have been a headache. but gosh it's funny I probably would have endorsed some protein powder you definitely would have been a protein powder guy for sure you'd have been a protein powder guy I just or maybe like affliction

we were all into affliction teas back there are some pictures of you and I like we could pull them out of the the files I'm not proud either you shouldn't be there's a picture of you my daughter's there's a picture of you and Malcolm in front of some sports car in like that's right

giant bedazzled cross Tee shirts. That's right. Yeah. So listen, we all had, and I wore Ed Hardy, Ed Hardy, we all had bad phases with that. Is James potentially going through a phase at present? It appears to be a Notre Dame hat on your head. It is. It is. So my best friend in college, Marcus Freeman, was a de-coordinator at Cincinnati for the last, what, three years. And then he just took the DC job at Notre Dame. So I text him, you know, a couple of months ago. And I said, hey, man, I just need some free swag. And they sent me a bot. of like, you know, six hats and a bunch of shirts.

This is really interesting and this is a brilliant segue into something I wanted to ask him. So you're okay with wearing Notre Dame stuff out in public? Oh, I do. And people get really confused around here, really confused because they're like, wait. That's really confusing. What's your guy becomes the head coach at the University of Michigan? There's only certain boundaries that you, look, there's certain limitations to it. I think, honestly, I think that's a possibility.

Now, would he take it or not? my gut says he'd definitely entertain it. I mean, if Michigan, the kind of money that they throw around, I think he would definitely look into it. I think it's, after your Ohio State fan, you don't want that to happen.

I think there's two names you don't want to happen if you want things to keep going the way they are. Matt Campbell at Iowa State, who rumor is he's still somewhat salty. He didn't even get considered when they hired Ryan Day. He's from Ohio. And then Marcus Freeman, because Marcus Freeman has shown to be

one of the best recruiters in the nation, and yet he knows also Ohio and kind of would have those ties. So Harbaugh hasn't been able to really recruit Ohio, which has always been a key to their success. And if you're Ohio State fan, you want it to stay that way. But personally, I would love for him to get that opportunity. What an awesome opportunity that would be.

I want to double back to the NIL thing just for a second. The implications are many here with the NIL stuff. I think it's a positive, though. You just said, I want to push back a little bit. You said you'd rather it not have been, you know, in effect. I'm saying it would have caused me a lot of stress because I know how much my father would have wanted to, you know, dual appearances, stuff like that, you know. And so, look, my dad was a self-promoter in the WWF.

So that's what they did for a living. That's what they did for a living. So it's not a terrible thing. I just think it would have been an added layer. I'm all for it for the kids now. I think it's positive. I think, you know, these, as you, we've all seen it in locker rooms. I think there's going to be a lot of families that might get stressed out on these things, you know, with just higher.

higher smart representation know that taxes will come and you'll get to learn at 18, 19, 20 versus learning when you get to the league. Best defensive player in the country, that conversation, I'm on the outside looking in. I just know this Kvon,

Tibado guy. I turned on an Oregon game last year, not having watched them all year, and it took me five minutes to say who the fuck is number nine. You know what I mean? So who's in the running to be the best defensive player?

a year or any of those guys in the big 10? Well, I think he is, the guy, the guy from Oregon that you mentioned, is it, Tibido, Thibodeau. Yeah, yeah, we're working on it. We're heads on it. We're heads in a bad name day. Thibodeau. I don't know.

That's what I thought. Yeah. I thought it was Thibodeau. Yeah. You can always go to Macon. It knows everybody's name. I, so I'm obviously excited to see him play Ohio State, but it's not just the matchup.

It's the fact that he's going against scouts will love it, too. Thayer Monford and Nicholas Petit-Farre, who are both all big 10 tackles. Although they've been talk about moving, they have this kid here, DeWan Jones, who's like 6, 7, 330, who was a basketball player. So they want to put him at tackle, Mumford, at Gar. Anyway, they're messing around with the O line. But Ferrer was the number one tackle in the country coming out and what an awesome NFL scout matchup with Fibito and him going back and forth. And I think he is the best and has the highest, I think, ceiling, you know, for a scout term as far

guys out there. He still, I think, has a lot to improve on. You would know more than me as a DM, but there's just something there's something there's something there to where you're like, he just jumps off the screen. Oh, yeah. And you can notice it. But I think he's the best player in America on defense. So as far as, you know, here locally, there's a lot of guys in the Big Ten. I think there's a safety at Northwestern Brandon Joseph, who is legit. He was, gosh, all over the place last year in a very limited season. He's a guy to watch out for. There's a kid at Ohio State who I think he will rise up a bunch of boards. His name is Zach Harrison. He's a D.N. He was a number one D.N coming out a couple years ago out of Olentangie up here in Ohio, north of Columbus.

But he is a guy that when you see him, you know, work out in shorts and all that. He's going to develop by Larry Johnson, who has obviously has the Bosa's and Chase Young and all them. And they keep saying they expect him to kind of make that sort of leap this year. but as far as around the big 10. Then there's a kid, Brandon Smith linebacker at Penn State, who's really explosive. Penn State always has dudes at LB that can play. How about the gunner at Jason U.A?

Is it Jason? Oh, Jason Owey. Yeah, Jason Owey. Gawley, dude. Jason Owey was a gunner the other day in preseason. It's 250 pounds, dude. Yeah. Like, what are they doing up there? And by the way, Kvon, Thibito, where's number five, by the way?

Number nine, though, what's this is the single digit D. Lyman is your guy at Ohio State, the defense vet? Yeah, Zach Harrison. Yeah, Zach Harrison. Yeah, they're just dudes, man. You don't want to have swag like that. You can rock a single digit. I just never could do it. It's like, I tried to.

I tried to at Ohio State. I tried to get three. True story. I wore three in high school. And so I tried to get three. And they were like, no, you're a three star from Minnesota. There's a five star, Jamario O'Neill from Cleveland, Glenville. He gets to choose first.

I said, okay, he can have three. And I was like, how about 52? They're like, no, we have this freshman All-American John Kerr coming over from Indiana transferred. He already took 52. I said, okay. And they're like, how about 36? Now, I didn't watch Ohio State growing up. I didn't know that 36 was like Spielman, Tom Cousineau.

Like, there's some dudes that rocked 36 out of Ohio State. And I'm like, 36, no, like 36 is weak. I was like, give me 33. And so I took 33. I had no idea the history of 36 here. I think it would have looked a lot weirder if you were like, give me 36. It's like walking into the Giants building and asking for 56, not that you can wear it anymore.

The future's odds. We pulled up a couple from win bet. The future's odds to win the Big Ten here. Ohio State's minus 155, so they're big favorites. Any of these other teams have a chance, or do you seek any value in these bets? Like Wisconsin, 4 to 1, Penn State, 9 to 1, Iowa, 10 to 1, and Michigan 20 to 1.

Any of these teams have an outside chance or you guys just have it on lock? and if so, which one has the best value? I think, I think Ohio State has it on lock. It really, it is a separation. I was reading through some stuff the other day. I tried to get a very well-rounded perspective on the conference because obviously when you're just, if you live in Columbus,

it's like an echo chamber here with the Buckeyes. But I was reading some stuff in the athletic the other day. And there was so many guys just kind of saying, who's the player of the year in the Big Ten? It was like whoever starts at Ohio State report. Like it's just, you know what I mean? It doesn't even matter. It could be any three of the kids.

And I think that's kind of the way that a lot of people view the conference this year. If I had to go out on and you said, hey, you can't pick the Buckeyes. Who are you taking? I'd probably take Wisconsin. It's tough because when you're some of these brands in the Big Ten, you can lose a game early on. like the conference has done a good job this year of scheduling these games. Like Wisconsin and Penn State play each other week one.

Oh, wow. So whoever loses that game could just basically say, well, they're done. Like if Penn State loses, people are going to say, oh, Penn State was bad last year, you know, they had one of their worst seasons of record last year. It wasn't a fluke. They're bad. If Wisconsin loses, the narrative will be, well, Wisconsin, see, they can't beat teams in the Big Ten East. They can only win the west side, the weaker side of the division.

It's the same with Indiana. Indiana, Iowa play. That would be a 17-verse 18 game. I believe in Indiana might be the town they have Right Yeah But it could be

But I think with Indiana If that logo Has a Michigan logo next to it With the same roster Like they're a preseason You know 10 or 11 Yeah

But the fact that no one really respects the Hoosiers And that's their own fault They haven't been great in football Listen you just walked me into something I really wanted to ask you And when you had the Notre Dame Had on earlier

I was like oh shit Because The super fan still has it on He still has it on Yeah Yeah golden domer here So, so free. I like free stuff.

Yeah, well, I like free stuff too, but not that much. If this is the rule, that's a good question. We can settle it after we get off with James. If we have carte blanche now, who are we wearing? Give it a second. Save it. I'm not saying. Okay. Indiana, that coach there, I watched him pumping up his team in training

campus now on Twitter. Now I know all coaches are performers. They know the mics on. They know the camera's on. Now it's becoming a part of being a college football coach that you have to like perform. But I don't think this guy's a performer. I buy his shit and I like him. And I want to go play football.

I almost wanted to go play football for Indiana yesterday. And I'm wondering is that sacrilege for me to share his motivational speech because I go to, I went to Virginia. And, you know, like, so where do you land on that? Yeah, like pumping up other coaches at other programs. No, I'm fine with that. The way I see it is you won't see me wearing any other big tent stuff. But like in my eyes, Notre Dame's independent.

They're, I'm supporting a friend. Like if you send me some Virginia stuff, I'll rock VA stuff all day. You would rock Virginia stuff? Absolutely. Okay. No question. We won't rock Ohio State stuff. But you can send, we'll send you some Virginia.

When it comes to Tom Allen is. I love Tom Allen. Yeah, he's legit. We tell me why he's legit and why he's authentic. For one, this quote will, I loved hearing this quote, it was from this off season. When he was de-coordinator there, he goes,

it used to make me cringe when we used to break it down on Big Ten champs. He's like, because we were terrible. Like we goes, we didn't have a chance of being fifth in the Big Ten East. Yeah. And so when I got the head job,

he's like, I told him like, we're not breaking it down. Like we haven't earned the right to think that that's where we're at. Like we need to, we need to climb, we need to produce,

we need to do all. It's been the same motto. And the way he started back on year one to where he is now, it's been the same guy. Like he was this, he was this much of a madman before they were even a trendy thing last year, right? Like he's not a guy that's all of a sudden he's coming up with this great, these great quotes and all this. It's always been about, he's going to, I mean, I think love is one of the main character exists of his, of his program. He believes that like if the guys know that you truly care for him and love them, they will run through a wall for you.

That's why you see him genuinely excited whenever a guy makes a big play. It's not, it's not fake. There are some others in the conference. I won't name names that I think are a little more theatrical. Let's stay here for him. Let's stay here for a second. Some others in the conference. James, would you say love is love?

That's your slogan. That's his slogan. At least he knows. But some others in the conference. He's talking about Michigan. I'm not talking about. I don't think he's solely talking about Michigan. When I see PJ Fleck row the boat, I want to vomit and drown everybody in the ocean.

I just want to fill the field with vomit. Like, this is disgusting visual, but it's also disgusting to hear row the boat. I'm just so, I'm not into rowing the boat. Well, follow up. Did you, do you know what Tom Allen, how he did break it down? Was it improvement guys on three? I don't. I don't, but I know.

But James is right, though. Totally right. Totally right. He's so right. Because, like, I can't tell you how many times in training, if we broke it down on some stupid shit. That was just totally unrealistic. We'd be like,

NFC West champs. I'm like, y'all, we were, let's start with not, can we start with winning record? Yeah. That'd be great.

Yeah. Uh-huh. Super Bowl. Super Bowl on three. Like, you'll be in an individual period and some new guy will be like, it's his turn to break it down.

And he goes, Super Bowl on three. And everybody's like, dude, look around. I know you just got here, but how about other, how about other conferences,

James? You know, SEC, it's competitive but we have a feeling there ACC it's competitive I guess but we have a feeling there Pac 12 Big 12

is there anybody unexpected that can come out of those two conferences well so when you say I guess unexpected would USC be unexpected the way I look at the PAC 12 is like it's USC or Oregon you know I don't I don't think

either would be really unexpected the Big 12 I think Oklahoma to me senses like to me this year is like okay they have Spencer Rattler which there's a lot of hype and obviously for a good reason he's good but he also got benched last season so like there are still some growth things with him that hopefully he has kind of grown through throughout the offseason but it kind of feels like all right Oklahoma like if you're going to win it you're the one with a quarterback coming back Alabama's got a new guy Clemson has a new guy Ohio State's a new guy which I think it speaks to how

top heavy college football is that those three schools that I as mentioned, I'll have a new quarterback and no one's blinking about putting them the playoff. UNC's interesting me. I mean, you would know probably you want ACC more, but like just Mac Brown, Sam Howell, the quarterback, does US, UNC have enough to be able to beat Clemson, you know, a couple times? They don't have enough top of doubt. I don't think so. I mean, it's a fair question, but like, because they definitely You asked me for unexpected. No, no, no, I'm not shitting on your answer because you're fishing for, for, for somebody that could make a run. And like, they're really exciting.

They're fun to watch. I know that you coined them as being a women's soccer. Women's soccer school. They are dominant there, right? They are dominant there. And we should give them credit where credits do. And a 500 Virginia team put up 44 on them last year. That's the problem. That's the problem.

Clemson will score 70 points on those guys. Yeah. And like good luck keeping up. And I really like Sam Howell. And I really like what Mack Brown's done there. I think a lot of people expect. him to be more of the same. But, you know, Texas, the whole thing was, was underperforming, and now he's overperforming at UNC. So, yeah, no, they're exciting, but you're right. What about

conference realignment in the PAC 12 and in the Big 12? And with everything going on right now, are we going to see like super conferences? Is that the chalky answer? What's James Laronitis's Magic Juan kind of answer? Yeah, well, I think, I think something that was, Magic Juan answer. I think something that was unique. We had an Oklahoma guest on. We were going through the Big 12 on our show. And he had said, yes, I'm like, so why does Oklahoma leave? You know, everyone thought Texas would go, but why Oklahoma?

And they said the reason why Oklahoma left was that they had a really hard time selling out home games. And I think that's a real issue. Like you want to be a part of the best conference in college football in the SEC. But like when you're Oklahoma, you're looking at the schedule. Who else besides Oklahoma State's a robbery, right? It's Bedlam. But who else, Baylor at home? Is that really selling out?

Is that driving up attendance? And they found that it wasn't. And so now the idea is we have a whole SEC schedule that we can sell out. We can obviously sell this to the TV stations, all that. The interesting thing, when I was out in Phoenix with Fox, you know, Big Ten networks owned by Fox. So when we were out there looking at the numbers, like the top 10 games in the Big 12 are all include Texas or Oklahoma. Outside of that, there's not one game that anybody wants

on a network. And so that's the struggle of the Big 12. I think the scheduling alliance you hear between the PAC 12 and the Big 10, the ACC, that's about getting more eyeballs to the screen. There's a big number about really the 4 million viewers is where

networks really want to pay for money for these schools to draw that attention. I just think the Big Ten missed the boat. They missed their opportunity. The Big Ten was flirting with Texas in Oklahoma back when they expanded with Nebraska. They wanted to bring them in and try to, you know, bring Nebraska some, some help. And there was kind of some kind of snafu with the, I don't know, some AAU academic standard.

And Oklahoma wasn't a part of this club. And the Big Ten passed on them because of it, which Nebraska was. And then Nebraska dropped that academic standard a couple of years later. So all this like really dumb stuff, right? And so if you're in a Big Ten, the only way you can try to, counter this play is to try to convince, which they won't, because I don't think Notre Dame wants anything to do with the Big Ten. It's convinced Notre Dame to join and then get literally any other team. It doesn't even matter who else joins the conference. Notre Dame's poll as far as TV, money,

brand, it's all there. But Notre Dame, if you're them, you've been flirting with the Big Ten for decades. You already have a West Coast present because you play USC. And so now you're flirting with the ACC and you're expanding all down the east. Like, why would you join the Big Ten? Right. You don't need to. So I think everyone's kind of stuck trying to, I think over the last two years, we've seen the shift of like, at least up here, everyone assumed the Big Ten was in charge

and they would kind of set the tone of college football, the Big Ten network and they started, you know, the money, like they basically, when everyone started looking around and said, hold on, Purdue makes $50 million a year on a television deal. Like, how do we kind of catch up to that? it now it's flipped with the SEC pushing through last year and playing the first conference to kind of say no we're going to go through a play to now making this power move

I think the SEC's leading the way in college ball so you said Notre Dame and possibly which would never happen but possibly another team would be the slam dunk like who would you culturally think is actually a fit for the big 10 I mean that's a tough that's that's a tough one because I'm not sure

as far as like standards and all those things like so many people have different views on who that would be some people want to make it a national conference and go after oregon at USC i'm like okay that's you can do that in football but there's more than we know that there's more sports than just football yeah and they got to travel for yeah fucking volleyball team's got to board a bus to l.A like yeah right now now give me one team you would boot from the big 10 oh i know but i want to this is tough. This is tough, man. I work for the Big Ten Network and you're putting me on on that spot. I know, but like you can,

I don't know. We'll bleep it. We'll bleep it out. On three. One, two, three. Maryland. I wouldn't boot back. We got Maryland to keep Penn State from going to the ACC. Penn State was flirting with the ACC and they said,

hold on, we got to help Penn State out. Let's add Maryland. And then they're like, well, let's grab Rutgers. It's technically close to New York. Yeah. You know? Like when you go to Rutgers facility and they have the New York skyline, they're like,

it's right behind like their open end of the stadium. Yeah. And then when you get to the press box, we're like, hold on. I can't see New York. Where is New York? I don't see New York. I don't see a cornfield. Like, I'm not in the Big Ten.

I'm not in the Big Apple. What is this? Like, what's going on here? So let's close with some fun stuff. We've just interrogating him on college football. Did you head butt Chuck Cecil? I have head butt Chuck Cecil with a helmet on. He did not have a helmet on.

He did not have a helmet. I tried to tell him how this goes, dude. Bro, bro. Chuck would come headbutt you and then he'd just be like, Chuck, you're bleeding, you're bleeding. He had butt us before the games. He would, he would, we, you'd make eye contact with him and he'd basically say, come here and grab you by the bottom of your chin strap

to accelerate the head button, pull you into his head. And then you'd look over and he was fucking bleeding. And if you've never seen Chuck Cecil play football, like, like you don't get it. but if you have, it makes perfect sense. Yeah. Yeah. Chuck,

sometimes that was the hardest that I would get hit all game was Chuck's headbutt. Well, it was our headbutt too. We used to do one headbutt. But as we aged, as we aged, it didn't get as intense. Like when we were young,

it was like, oh, let's, you know, bend our face masks. As we got older, it was like, okay.

Well, I guess this is our ritual. And the movie concussion came out. I think that was a pretty solid turning point for us, like softening those pregame head, head butts. James, what's your version of the cricket story? You know, I was just really focused on trying to make our team better. And, you know, watching tape and, uh, it's a long day.

I remember going and eating food and our basketball court slash dining slash racquetball room that at Rams Park. Multi-purpose. And left to the parking lot thinking, man, I'm tired and I cannot wait to get home to my wife, you know. And, uh, it's been a long. day. Sure, sure. And so I go out there and I'm like, where's my car? You know, that's, I don't know where it is. And so then I find out that it's in the indoor facility. And so I have to walk around

the cheerleaders. It's wrapped, you know, and saran wrap. Cheerleaders were there. Yeah. And then I had to, you know, I cut through it all. And I'm like, ha ha, very funny guys thinking, you know, that's pretty good. And then all the packaging peanuts come out. I'm like, oh, this is even funnier, but then I just felt bad for Silky because I knew at that point in time, my attitude was I'm going to dump all this into the turf. And I'm not picking these packaging peanuts up. So whoever the crew is picking it up or my man, our man Silk there, it's going to be a long night. So I felt bad for him. And then the, and then I heard the crickets. And that's when I was like, you've got to be kidding me. And then there's a good friend of mine, Chris Long, who says, you know what, I'll give you a ride

home. This is ridiculous. I actually paid silk to clean it. So I get a ride home. That's that. And then I really got on a hunt determined to find the cameras. And so I went up to Larry, our film guy, and I was able to find the security footage of that day. And I see Chris Long, Kendall Langford, and William Hayes, although Williams still, Williams still claims, alleges like, you can't tell that's me. And I'm like, all right, bro. He's like, and you know, will. There's no way in the court a lot that would hold on. Like, absolutely. But anyway, you see all three of them stop, look up and acknowledge the camera and then just keep walking. Well, because we didn't think Larry would dime us out. I can't believe Larry Clarico

dimed us out. That was my guy. I will say this, one of the funniest details of the story, which at the time was pretty, it was a harrowing drive to the hotel, was all your clothes that I very kindly took out of your car as to not ruin them were in the back. of my car on the hanger hook behind the passenger seat that you were sitting in the entire ride. I was so tired. He didn't even look tired. I didn't even look behind. It was dark.

And plus, I, to be honest, I was just, I didn't think that you would have been a part of that. You know, I thought surely Chris would have my back and not, uh,

you know, be a part of these shenanigans. Well, now what I want to do for everybody listening for the hundreds of thousands of people tuning in at home, uh, I just want to say sincerely that I'm sorry and I made a mistake. And I hope that you'll forgive me.

You've already kind of forgiven me, I feel like, because we've forgave you already. I forgave you instantly. You're a real Christian. Some people are not giving you the forgiveness thing. You're a real Christian because he almost did nothing. I will say this. Now, the thing that people don't realize is, well, they do realize in this show.

We've talked about it, the crickets died. And for that, I'm very sorry. looking back I'd rather have you keep my suit in there and all the crickets die and ruin my suit than actually ruin my Audi that I had just gotten that off season it would have they would have ruined both

the suit and the Audi so I had to save one how many crickets approximately 10,000 we traded crickets for tickets because we went down to the bait shop on a break in camp they used to give us like a one hour break that you could go nap in I'm like, who goes naps for a fucking hour?

Okay, like, I can't go to sleep. I'm thinking about the second practice or whatever it is. And so me and William Hayes naturally were bored. And we went down to the bates. We went down to the FedEx. You said, we know, forget James. No, we need packing peanuts. We needed packing peanuts.

We were looking for packing peanuts and we heard crickets in the back. And the guy at the bait shop that was receiving 10,000 of them walked in. He said, aren't you guys, you play for the Rams? We say, we got a proposition. for you. Tickets for crickets. Next thing you know, the crickets crawl in James's car and die, which was unfortunate. That wasn't in the manual. That wasn't, I

did not know crickets died and that they smelled terrible. That smell was pretty ridiculous. Now, what, what you're not sharing is that you almost didn't turn the other cheek. No, I went and researched. How much would it cost me to ship Chris's Land Rover over to

London? London. So that when we went and played in London, that like his car would be at the arsenal practice facility and he'd be like oh no and then i thought back and i said you know what this is actually dumb this would actually hurt you more james because chris was a higher draft pick than you and his second deal was way bigger than you so chris would probably laugh at it be like that's cute i'll send it overnight tomorrow i would know i would have been and it would cost you know i'm not sure we could afford schooling for our third daughter if i would have hit my knees if you if you actually found a way to ship a full-size

SUV across the pond is retaliation because how am I getting it back? I mean the same way you got it there I would have been embarrassed in front of Kevin Costner Kevin Costner was at all our practices that week for some reason I mean uh totally nice of you not to to pull that off James one of the best teammates I ever had uh and definitely got me lined up uh with regularity uh appreciate you James larinitis don't fuck his name up don't wear it out James come back again dude all right man anytime you know it appreciate you bud see you. All right, man. Hey, James Laronitis was fun, huh?

Yeah, great guy. Hey, Dr. Fax is in. Thanks. What's up, fellas? Hey, what's up, love is love, Fax? What's good with you? Love is love.

Hey, Fax, Dutch Hawaiian's in the house today, so I'm going to roll you a little Dutch Hawaiian. Oh, I can't wait. Even with Macon here? Yeah, well, it's a cone, not a blunt. Macon has said that Macon is not happy with this development, but Macon doesn't call the shots around here. No, no, no.

and shows up to work. But you never had that problem until Fax was here because Fax is smoking. Yeah, don't put it on me, bro. Well, you, whatever you smoke smells offensive. You love it. Opposite of that. Anyways, the thing that I wanted to talk about, and I forgot to mention it in good this week, but is cell phone vacations.

Remember the other day you were like, hey, that thing you did last night. And I didn't. What I can always give to you, Chris, is honesty, except for the other day when I was unable to tell you why it was so great. Why I thought it was so great. Why what was so great? That you took a cell phone vacation. Yeah, tell me.

It meant that I did not get the text messages seven at a time from the hours of 6 p.m. to midnight or whenever you took your hiatus. And so I was just grateful to have that period of time. Deep sigh, my lovely wife said what? I said Chris is putting his phone down for six hours. I love one. Yeah. Now, I can't do that, you know.

I'm on call, much like a doctor. Is that a little more important, you know, people's biggest financial decisions of their lives, you know? You're more important than a doctor. Yeah. So I always have to be available. Real estate agents are more important than a doctor. Yeah, I would say so. That's a pandemic.

That's a hot take. Yeah. That's a real hot take. But I kind of, I kind of understand that. You hear that? that's what I'm talking about. Facts. Easier to get sick when you have a roof over your head.

Exactly. So like, you know, maybe we, if more people were real estate agents, maybe that disease goes away. You know what you can't buy when you make a bad investment? Insurance. Yeah. What? Doctors don't like it when you roll in without the health insurance. So I'm going to get you into a good investment so that you can be financially stable and then go see.

doctors and such. Anyways, you're burying the lead. You don't like talking to me on the phone. I get it. Talking. I love talking. You don't like texting. Because usually when I call, you're like, do we have to?

Can you just text it? I've been putting the phone down more. I don't know if you ever try this fax, but like I've been trying for years to put the phone down. We've even done like three official I'm done with my phone podcast, done with Twitter, done with my phone. But recently, I've been able to, for whatever reason, and put it down for hours at a time

and commit to like turning it off, putting it upstairs from like six to midnight. I did it on Saturday night. It was awesome. I did Monday for three hours. I did four hours the next day. I smoked a joint and read a book and talked to my wife for an hour and a half.

I was more immersed in everything. It's like, it's great. Here's the thing about phones. And I've said this before, maybe on this show. If they aren't gonna put chips in our brains that will replace phones, our evolution is going to change. Like evolution is going to change.

Our physiology is going to change because of the way like if we stayed in the iPhone stage perpetually, eventually we'd be walking around with like hump back necks. Like so that's how crazy this shit is. It's crazy. And beyond that, our generation has had it really tough. If you think about it, kids that were born in the 80s or early 90s,

not only did we go outside and play, but we didn't have, we had to go to the library, dude. There was no Google. There was no internet. and I would say any generation from one generation to next or that generation from like childhood to adulthood, I'm sure technologically you go through all crazy advancements

and like the Industrial Revolution or whatever, like fucking they invented a wheel at one point great. But I feel the worst for our generation because we informationally and stimulus from that standpoint like went from zero to a thousand miles an hour. So I think a lot of people are battling with this. It's obvious. It's bad for mental.

health is bad for ADD. It's bad for ADHD too, which unfortunately your boy. But I'm feeling good. Putting it down, I get good results. Go look it up in your funk and wagnalls. Sorry? If there's one person who understands that, hit me up. I'd be shocked. Hey, is your, is your phone excited? Because it just went from six to midnight. Yeah. Oh, good one. I mean, we need a laugh track. I do believe, like I really do think, if we're being serious here for a second, oh shit, which we haven't been all pods. So I'm sorry if you took any of this seriously. But like it's it's bad. It's legit bad for you. And I knew that anyways, but when you put it down

and you make an effort to put it down, it really reinforces how bad it is for you because all of a sudden you start being able to sink into things topic to topic. You start being able to like think things through. You start. retaining more memories. Think about it. The biggest farce in the world is that we have the most information in our fingertips. Yes, we do, but we don't know how to use it, like, responsibly. We're skipping from topic to topic. We're just, we're getting the headlines. We're getting like a speed read. Not only because we have an opportunity to do that with the way social media set up, but there's also so many fucking choices. So what you'll notice is when you don't have your

phone, you're doing that in life. Like I'm doing that socially. I'm doing that. that in a conversation. I'm doing that like, you know, day to day. If I have a day off, I'm still looking at my phone. But putting the phone down, I swear to you, dude. I swear to you, even when I got it back, like you train your brain and it goes a long way, like a four to six hour session without the phone. And then the next three days, you don't think like the old guy who was glued to the phone, even when you have it in your hand. I swear to you, try it. I'm sure some of you out there do it all the time. So on like Sunday morning or Monday morning when your phone tells you like how many hours you've been on it does it feel good when it's like my god dude when you

you're like it tells you're down you're down this much percent from the following week over the pandemic i would look at it and i'm afraid to say what what the numbers were they were probably like you've been on your phone 18 hours a day no not 18 i mean there were some 12ers for sure especially during football season where you we're on your phone to work a lot that's the problem is like you're you know a lot of us right now are working from our phones Well, that's fucked up. I would at least like to put that on a laptop, you know, because the problem with working on your phone is there's a bunch of things pulling at you

and there's a million ways to get distracted. So I love it. I'm going to keep doing it. I'm going to report back. It does make my attention span better. It makes me more informed. And honestly, I'm just happier. So like, yeah, dude.

I don't know what the formula is, but you're all for it. You're all for it. Yep. You want to try it with me? No, for you. I'm all for it. You don't like putting your phone down. No, no, no, no.

I'm with you on that front too. You're going on vacation. Put your phone down for a week. I would love to be with my family and put my phone down for like three days in a row. The only other time I ever get this is when I'm camping or something. That's why I think the best way to force this on you and your family is to get out of signal. If you can get out of signal for like a day or two and you and your wife are getting along and everything's good as you go in, It's like set and setting with psychedelic drugs.

Isolation with the family. It's the same thing. Like you've got to be in a good mode when you cross that threshold out of. But, but yeah, I mean, like, if you can go in the woods with your family for two days, I swear you come out happier. The whole bunch, dude. I've never been camping. Neither have I.

You and I share that facts. Crunchy-ass reeds been camping probably in the last 10 days. 10 days. Crunchy-ass read has been to 50 states or 48 out of 50. When's the last time you slept outside country, Reed? Three days ago. In a hammock down by the river. Dude, and people say that's much better than bad.

What about bug bites, Reed? Hey, man, you just wrap yourself up real tight in your blanket. They don't bother me. Oh, what about your face? He used to have a beard. I don't know. I don't know what he says. But yeah, some of y'all out there, like, this is the rare serious share.

I really do, if you guys could try it. you probably are like yeah we do it all the time Chris like a lot of us are on our phone for an hour a day but if you're out there and you're addicted to your phone there's hope your life will get a lot better i also think that this is like a little bit of an abstract thought i think a lot of people struggle trying to figure out like you know that feeling is like man i can't get what was it like to be young like that kind of that youthful buzz well that's there anyways but i think for us because of that generational um situation we're in like we don't even remember what it's like to be a kid one and two on top of it when we were kids there was no stimulus like overload

and so we'll never get that back in no one will society's going that way so i think for us it's extra therapeutic and you might not even know you're fucked up but i guarantee you you're kind of fucked up and i would put the phone down for a little bit and it will probably feel like you're a kid again honestly i get like i'm a kid again feeling when the phone's away you think i'm you think i'm bullshit and i can't tell you think i'm serious i think you're dead serious i think i'm fucking serious is a fucking aneurism more serious than a heart attack you smoking that dutch oven

no Dutch oven is when you fart under the covers I don't know whoever does that oh my god the landline I'm smoking that Dutch Hawaiian and Darren Bates is going to join us speaking of going back do you have a landline in your house I want one because I'm going to tell you what

when I get rid of this thing altogether no but I'm not you don't have one No, I want to get one put in. It's on my literal to-do list. Huh. Read! How about you making? You take me as a landline guy.

Well, for one reason, facts. And that reason is a security system. Because if the power goes down, I still need a way. You have a very good security system for the people out there listening. I need a way to get to the authorities. Because in our fancy-ass neighborhood, we don't get great sell service. That's part of the perk.

All right. Well, Darren Bates is going to join us in the... Come on over. Come hit a tub, Chris. No cell service. You won't have any trouble. Yeah. You know what?

That's basically like meditation and go and getting a hot tub in your house. Yeah. Fucking... Are there any other... I feel like your hot tub's got the parasites that swim up your urethra and kill you two days later. Those are in the creek. We go down to the creek too. Yeah, yeah.

We can camp? Cowboy Reed? I got an Eno. Hey, hey, hey, can we do something? Cowboy? Cheap fucks. Cowboy, can we do something here? We should do a company camping trip.

I'm all over that. Yeah, Cowboys all in. You're going to join us? I feel a tickle in my throat. You guys have never been, are you getting sick? Yeah. We'll do it in 10 days. Okay.

I just want to go somewhere that we can fish and I can catch something and I can live out my YouTube fishing dreams. I'm talking about his life. to do a catch clean and cook while camping. Do you know how to do any of those things? For me? Yeah. For the amount of time and effort I have been watching in fishing YouTube, I think I can,

I think I can handle it. And I cook fish. Like I get whole fish that you have to scale and cook. So I figure it'll be cool to try to actually catch it due to cleaning yourself. I might not do a good job, but what's the first fish you're trying to catch clean and cook? Trout. Come on, man. Why do you say it like that?

Because I wanted to hear what you had to say. Well, you're still going to hear it. I don't know what fish are out here, but like, I honestly, I want to go somewhere and do noodling. Like, and catch a catfish. You know what? You know what that is? Yeah, that's when you catch catfish. But like, you put your fist in the hole and it bites you.

you and you just grab it. Oh yeah. That sounds like a like Lane's been new. Lane Johnson's been noodling. For sure he's been noodling. I think we talked about it. I used to want to do that but then I realized that there's probably in a lot of places people are noodling. They have a bunch of venomous snakes on the banks

of those rivers where they're noodling. Here you go. So I was watching something and I was thinking about I was watching this YouTube and they got a hypnotist on there. And I feel like that's content that we should try to do. And I think a hypnotist can literally

it can change your mind about a snake and I think we should bring a snake in here and you'll probably hold it. I've held a snake just I didn't want to do it last did we hold it? Yeah on the show we held it Halloween I was I was here yeah you didn't I don't think I held it okay exactly interesting thank you Reed I had

I had that tarantial on me for a hot minute hot minute for a second scared to no fucking spiders for a second pick the cicada up this morning through it outside wow yeah dude Tacitas are terrible. Fax is right though. I ate a stink bug once.

I share that opinion that we should have a hypnotist in. Oh, I would love it. I would love to have a hypnotist in to convince you that you enjoy your job. This one? Yeah. But also, I don't know how you guys glossed over that. Would you guys eat a stink bug? I feel pretty good about that.

Eat like? I ate a stink bug. You ate one for what reason? I was drunk. I was at Foxfield. Like son like father? Didn't your son eat one? Hey, you want to...

Oh, yeah, Luke did it. We used to call my youngest son Luke stink bug because he literally got caught eating stink bugs. So here's the thing. You're right. Do you know that there's a lot of food products with crickets in it because they have hot, they're high in protein? We were just talking...

Yeah, no, I would eat a cricket. I would eat a whole bunch of crickets. You'd all get me some crickets, not live ones. I would eat some crickets. We should do a bug tasting day. Let's do a bug tasting day, but you have to harvest your own bugs. I don't want to do the last part, Cowboy, you probably could harvest them way better than we could.

I have fishing crickets like at my house. I don't know if they're the crickets that they're eating in fucking in, uh, in Chelsea. They're just crickets. Luke is your younger son because you only have two. Yeah? He's not your youngest. He's your younger. Oh my God.

Are you correct to me about my children? You only have one kid. Your grammar. Your children. It's your grammar. Fuck my grammar, dude. You got one kid, bro. One kid guy.

Were you a schoolhouse rock guy? I don't know what that is. Oh, okay. Oh, you're talking about the old car. Conjunction, junction, what's your function? Working out. Blind spot for me. Yeah.

We used to watch that in after school program. Conjunction, junction, what's your function? Batesy, this is making, making bait. Nice to meet you. How are you? Likewise. Love is love. He's saying that shit to everybody.

It's fucking ridiculous. I'm not saying it to everybody. body don't water it down like that don't be saying love is love to like the when we have somebody on i don't know don't say love is love bates you know what i mean hey that's that's his go-to that's his go-to dude he's his tagline you know what so bates you know the backstory how he figured out how to we were talking about this versus uh with the locks and uh dip set a few weeks ago and he had no idea what it was and there was a jada post where he saw said love is love. And he was like, love is love. That's interesting.

Fucking three days later, a T.O. interview, he's saying love is love. Hey, that whole verse has the impact on everybody I see. Exactly. It did. Deeply so. So we're all here now. I got Darren Bates of the Raw Room podcast, which is, I plug it all the time. I got a T-shirt here. I was going to put it on, but I'm too lazy. The T-shirts are awesome, by the way. The pods are awesome. I need to get one. Two-X. easy you hear that say i'm sending me all away some yeah yeah you got a medium there batesy unfortunately my wife has all the oh hey so so the love is love thing we covered that uh making also

you want to explain the new ruling on on drugs in the studio to batesy so he has the backdrop of what's going on here sure defiance that's going on here well this is studio jay and there were a lot of drugs going on and so I said respectfully these drugs which I do not smoke are giving me a headache and making my clothes smell and I'd rather there not be any more drugs in the studio so here we are two weeks later and you see it's pretty cloudy in here ventilation is poor to say the least so bates so he so he's a real estate agent on the side which you've probably heard and he goes to he's about to show a home or something after like a whole pound in that big well bates the problem is he's used to raw codes and then dr fack started coming in and what

what are you smoking i'm a backward guy oh don't got that wood stick to your clothes that's what i tried telling him it's just it's just a different sense so anyways batesie uh Nate Collins myself that's a lot of years of NFL service there uh it's a lot of years of training camp. It's a lot of nights and hotels, one-on-ones, inside run, everything, the heat, the whole nine yards. There's so much to choose from

and Macon's watched his fair share of training camps. Yeah, I'm an HBO. Yep, exactly. So, so here's the deal. We're just going to list, I had these guys come up with lists of just their least favorite things about training camps,

the worst training camps, like a Frankenstein of terrible things that can happen or terrible people at training camps. And we're going to see how much crossover we had. We haven't read each other's lists. In fact, I just got their list. So I don't know how we get into this. Bates, you're the guest.

I feel like you should kick it off. What are some of the absolute worst things in training camp and we'll react as, as necessary? Well, my first one that I did, it pertains to St. Louis training camp. Got some St. Louis ones here, buddy. And the first thing is Wednesday. I think it was Wednesdays. Now, you remember what they did next door on Wednesdays, the trash company?

We got crossover. Crossover alert. That's why I would have my air horn right there. Ba-ba-bah-bah. Yeah. So, yeah, so that's the first thing. It's 100 degrees out there. And on Wednesday, the beautiful garbage people just do whatever, whatever that is that they do to the garbage.

and the entire feel, everything smells like ass. And it's hot. And then, you know, it's just, that's just not from something you want to be sniffing, inhaling whatever fumes while I'm running a 300-yard shuttle, you know. Yeah, it's actually bad for your health. Did you ever read about what was actually next door? Did you think these were dumpsters? I thought it was dumpsters.

I thought they were in trash. I wasn't really sure. I never looked it up. Oh, well, buddy. I got, I got news for you. We might all be a part of a club. class action lawsuit because there's a giant burning pile of trash underneath the hill by the practice field and in fact it got so bad the waste that they were burning under that landfill

that there's going to be like an Aaron Brockovich situation where people are going to be coming after big trash because they were burning shit they shouldn't have been burning the entire time that we were huffing and puffing in a 102 degree weather there and it was and it was like clockwork too. It was like, you knew like, man, what's today? Wednesday. Dang. I'm in a trail. It was Wednesday. It was Wednesday. It was hump day. It was. Yes. I got one for you. This was, if we were doing a draft, this would be number one. Grim Reaper. When I say Grim Reaper, who is it? Oh yeah. Come get that iPad. The coach, whoever it is, or the underling of the coach, they never do it themselves. You know, they send the guy down,

to cut somebody and when the guy walks in the locker room everybody fucking i don't know if guys look closer at him or try not to make eye contact like he's medusa or something make it making you would be a good cut man you'd be a good grim reaper you would like exactly like the guys did you have a lot of experience with that number two overall pick oh no i didn't but i cared about my friends oh it's a foreign concept to you it's a constant anxiety that you go through as undrafted guy when you know who it is you never want to see this person it's just like even when you see him walking like towards you at lunch or anything you don't even really you don't even really want to say hello to this guy at all oh and absolutely at the end of my career to answer your question i was looking

for that guy you got like a you got like a really nice phone call from jeff fisher saying look how do you how do you want us so we'll do it however you want to do it but you know well they did it exactly how I wanted it done, which was like right now. So I could fucking, so I could just take my business elsewhere. But like, no, in Philly, because at that point, and this leads me to one of my next ones, the catapult system they put under your pads to see how fast you're running and how many steps you were taking, I made the mistake of looking at my mile per hour numbers in Philly. And I was so fucking slow, I just knew I was getting cut any day now.

Don't care what you're doing. I read your catapult. You ran 12 miles an hour. top speed today. I hated the catapults. I take my catapult out and like throw it all around the field at the end. The practice you see. They stood still for a while today.

That was weird. Nate, what's on your list? One of the main things for me is when I was in Chicago, we said at a college campus and the breakfast, they would have watery eggs. And watery eggs. Waking up, trying to get a breakfast. and you get in line and it's just like you look and you see like those cafeteria eggs

and it's just so depleting to start the day this so so depleted and you're gonna just you're gonna feel like you got a poop and individual just like you can it's like almost you take it because you need to eat something but it's just like you're trying to scrape it off the top like it's it's a bad it's a bad consistency in the milk can

yeah eggs in the milk can that's exactly how they pour them out every morning morning, which is I got nothing against eggs and a milk can. It is horrible. But you have to just do it right. You have to do it right. And it's just like they don't do it right. The worst people, the intern trainers.

Yeah, I saw that on your list. Brough, we were and we practiced in Dallas. I had got hurt and against Oakland, so I ain't even practice. So I had to go to treatment. I went in treatment. I think it was like early in the morning. He had to go to treatment. And the intern was hooking me up to some machine.

and he turned it on and it was like on a thousand and he shocked the shit out of me got all this shit off me and I walked the fuck out and I was like but I'm not coming back to Reggie but you better get to get him but he's done and I just went back to the room I feel like that

what year was that you said it was when we practice it was in California but when we play when we practice against the I remember that you were pretty upset about that I was pissed you were very upset about that because the whole point is you're trying to to feel better.

Yeah. And, oh, man, you just made it worse. I'm missing practice. I missed a fight. Oh, hold on a second. Speaking of injuries on accident, can you tell your injury on accident story? This wasn't in training camp. So we was about to play the Niners in San Fran.

My first time in California, I'm excited as fuck. I mean, we downtown. I go eat pizza. I go to the mall. I'm just like, damn, this live. Same day, Auburn playing Bamma, kick six. War Eagle. Boy, damn, I'm watching.

Boom. I'm, like, going crazy. At the same time, Ray Ray calling me saying, hey, have the door open. I ain't got my key. I'm going to be late. So I'm like, all, cool. But I'm still, it's the Iron Bowl,

Babeba, that's the name, Chris Davis, just hit kick six. So I'm watching him. I'm watching him. I'm going crazy. People call him on phone. I forget to undo the door. And I just, remember the last.

second. I said, oh, shit, let me go get the do for, bro. I go get the door. Just me still had his key. He opened the door at the same time. Boom. Oh. I wake up. Blood everywhere. All the coaches in front of me. And I'm like, what the fuck going on? And they was like, are you okay? What happened? I'm like, shit. You tell me what's going on? What are y'all doing? They're like, they asked me, like, did you go out and get drunk? Did you get in the fight? I'm like, what are y'all talking about? but it took us they had to put piece to story because Ray Ray finally said that he came in like he didn't want to say that at all

so that's the catch 22 of the whole thing oh my goodness and they were so tight these two they were like a unit bro and I just knew like but we thought at first you just you like had a new medical condition that popped up or something that you were just

hitting the ground and knocking yourself unconscious or something he missed the game the next day I couldn't play in And the can of stick park, and that was like one of the last couple games there. Never got, didn't get the play in there. I don't think I got out of it was the thing Michael Brockers gave me his Louis Vuitton Shades. And that was the first time I had expensive shades. He didn't give you the shades.

You look so cool. Was there an injury report? Yeah. Was it like Bates out, hotel door? No, if people would have said that, it would have been great. But they would frame that. Incussion. And, yeah, Jeff Fisher thought I was out.

drinking and partying and shit. I'm like, yeah, I'm just got my ass with an old door. What? I just got my ass with by an old door. Oh, I'd add to my list, too. Oh, Camp eyes. Camp eyes is, uh, it's, it's something I've heard guys talk about. Let, let make it know what Camp Eyes is.

Well, Camp Eyes is a thing where all of a sudden, because you've been fucking sequestered with a bunch of dudes for a month straight, somebody that you would never find attractive, waltzes by the football field, and you're alarmingly, like, enamored with that person. You know what I mean? I figured it out based on your laughs, your respective laughs and other contacts. Some guys get caught. Yeah, this is worse than drunk goggles.

So I've heard some guys say things in camp that I'm like, hey, nah, dude. Supernob. Like, I know you're a rookie and you're still staying in the hotel, but I'm at home right now. And like there is no way what you're saying is, is, A, okay or B, like accurate. It's not accurate. So camp eyes is bad. But here's another funny one. Speaking of like, you know, outsiders coming to practice, when somebody's girlfriend or

somebody's wife comes to practice, how different guys play and how different you feel like you need to defend yourself and like, listen, when I go out and play on Sunday, like, and my family's in the stands, I just don't even think about it. Like, what embarrassing could happen to me. Like, I could miss a tackle. I could get blocked. I could get panicked.

But your manhood, your card can get pulled in camp more than any other time of the year. And when your family walks up there, you know exactly when they get to practice. And you're like, okay, I'm generally an asshole, but I'm going to be an extra big asshole right now

because I'm not taking any shit from anybody in front of my two-year-old. You have to. You have to. Imagine guys that get beat up in camp, camp in front of their families. Oh, my God. Are you serious?

Think about that. Think about that. People's families come to camp, Bates, and then somebody gets in a big fight. That guy today, they got punched in the face by Antonio Brown. Well, if his family wasn't there, they got to see it on the internet, but. Oh, who punched who?

Did Titans and shit today? Yeah, Google, Google some fights. Yeah, you missed a fighter too. The end team fight? Or they were playing. They were playing joint practice. Oh. Hey, that's another thing, joint practices.

You're bad You say bad I like it I like it I like it too It's like In one week Yeah but like as a guy that's scratching

Scratching and clowing Like I was always scratching a clone To make a team Like you need that And it's something where I never brother-in-law But like At some point

At some point Like when you're going against your teammates Like you want something Like you want to be able to hit someone different And you want to be able to like show out Like hey it gets tiresome too even if you're beating the same guy like threes against threes in practice and you're going against the same guy you're beating them every day that doesn't necessarily mean like you're really doing shit so like it kind of helps out a little bit playing against well you get a different look yeah but like pass rush especially and also you're going against guys that are like in the same position they're super hungry they're trying to impress their coaches they're trying to go all out so it's like yeah like let's get this let's get this bro and honestly as an older player joint practices brought

shit out of me that I wasn't going to get on Wednesday. Not, you know, not to sound like the coach got out of it what he wanted to because fuck that shit. But like, but it kind of works because that, you know, like, it's just somebody not from around the way. You know what I mean? And also another thing is you don't want anybody going back and being like that guy was, you know, soft or that guy wasn't a good player.

You know, like you don't want, the last thing you want is somebody leaving the building talking about. If you have a bad day in front of your teammates. And that's what I was just about to say. Like on the other hand, it's just like, you want to impress your peers. So like for like that day or that week in practice, you're just like, oh, we got pass for us. Like we're all trying to get wins. Yeah, exactly.

And that feels good if that happens. And then you're in, you'll be in meetings and you'll be able to like, look, we beat their ass. It's not like the same guys you're going against. Oh, he's going to, he's going to short set me. He's going to do this. The short sets just get ridiculous and one-on-one pass rush. It's basically like a totally unrealistic thing. Yeah, because they tell us you can't bull rush.

And the first thing a guy's going to do with short side. Just get his body right in front of you. So you have to run sideways to run around. The fights. You just on the fight of yours the other day. What? I was just with John Barler, just one of the equipment guys for just the short,

the little equipment guy for the tighties. That's my homeboat. And we were kicking. And we were talking about fights. And I was like, hey, I was doing Chris Long guy throwing out of game, but he really ain't do shit. Yeah.

But I went back and watched it. It was less of the Panthers. Yeah, Panthers. I threw a punch, but it wasn't like. No, you barely You even touched shit. Well, I threw a punch at the face mask,

which is why I sat in the locker room with me and Les Sneed, and I didn't want to tell him that I might have broken my hand. Like, on top of, like, all of this, like, my hand's just fucking throbbing. Who'd you throw it at? I threw it at some offensive lineman. Somebody was fucking with Robert Quinn. We were playing down there,

and they were, like, all punking him. Steve Philshiel, when Steve Smith and Rabbit got into it. Yep. And that's when that shit started in, and it didn't help when Jeff Fis. said the kickoff, that's going to start a fight. The first kickoff, Ray Ray went up and decluded the shit out of somebody and went to get off of him, just kept on pushing, mushing.

Referees like, all, yeah, y'all, with the bull and shit today. Yeah. Oh, for sure. For sure. And then it just was like that. And then it ended up being one of those things where I just decided in my head that I'm going to punch somebody. You know, like when you, in slow motion in your brain?

So you threw a punch at Steve Smith? No, fuck, no. Steve Smith. It was a big lineman. It was some guy with dreads. So I just was sitting there and I was like, in my stupid mad brain, I just decided I'm going to punch this guy and I'm probably going to get ejected and it happened just how I thought about it in my head. And then I was coming off the field and somebody threw a beer bottle at me. And I point up at him because I'm like, well, I don't have any other card to pull.

I can't kick this guy's ass. Like he's 14 rows up. I'm not going to go malice at the palace, right? And so I just point at him to try to get him kicked out because we kicked the Seahawks fan out of the game. for being a total asshole. We pointed them out to security. I don't fucking care. You can call me whatever you want. And I'm pointing up at the guy and somebody takes this picture of me pointing and it was going around for six hours. I was like trending that I gave fans the finger in Carolina. We were on the plane, dude. Yeah. I honestly were crazy. Well, technically you did give him a finger

by giving him the index finger. But what I was going to say was, do you remember the fight? Of course you do in Oxnard because it's topical because just day on Hard Knocks. I was watching AD. Yeah, I just talked about it on the raw room. And I definitely remember because I was trying to remember who the rookie was. The rookie that dropped his ass. Oh, yeah. It was. And I just remember the whole shit was like a fucking movie.

The rookie dropped who? Dez Brad. Yeah. Desmond, dude. Desmond, Brad. Desmond got dropped. He was talking to add money shit to Eugene the day before. Eugene.

Everybody, he was talking cash money shit to everybody. He went to even practicing. I'll give him credit, though. He was talking shit to everybody on the field, like every single human being. Like, nobody was safe, bro. I'm talking about he talking shit to everybody. Man. Gene was the wrong guy to talk shit to anyways.

He's just absolutely the wrong guy. He's got hands, dude. But he got hands. And he dirty as hell. Yeah, he really bought into the, you know, the extra stuff. But no, I just remember running around in the field. It was like a brave heart scene. Except people weren't.

Yeah, people weren't stabbing each other. They were just punching each other and like drilling into. Is that a practice? Yeah, it was a joint practice in Oxnard against the Cowboys. Oh, okay, okay. And we had the home field advantage because there were so many LA fans. And you know the fence with the, it's like chain link five feet tall with the yellow on top. You see the hard knocks.

Yeah. And like the fight ended up from like two fields over all the way to that fence. And people were just like up against that fence in a fucking scrum. and fans were like in the like pulling players and shit you know la ram fans are kind of nuts so that's crazy um that was bad des got peace he got his ass peace stuff it happens it happens yeah yeah and what happened when you talk out of that shit they also just yeah yeah it can happen when you talk a lot of shit for sure um no back to camp things number one this is probably one of the top things on my list is wet socks or wet pads

I hit on mine too. Like in between, I know it's hard. The equipment guys, they have to do a lot. But if you get the short end of the stick and you get wet socks, that absolutely sucks. Dude, because you feel like such a dick going back to ask the guys that have been up 18 hours at work. Exactly. For socks, for socks. And again, like, if you're not in a position to really feel comfortable about asking for that, you probably won't.

and you just have to deal with it. And that sucks. And also the cleats when they're on that cleat rack, people don't know the cleats are the sogiest things in the world. And when you walk into an NFL locker room, there's like towers of dryers that you put your cleats on. If you forget to put your cleats on those dryers, you're absolutely fucked.

You get the squishies. You're absolutely fucked. That's the feeling to have in practice after you just practice for three hours and then you got mud, but on your feet and so it's not good. Oh, mud butt. Yeah, that's something. Like, you perpetually are worried you have mud butt in camp.

You never actually do, but it just always feels like you might. This is who you punched. I guess that's him. What's his name? Chris Scott. Chris Scott, yep, he was a guard. Guard out of Tennessee, 6-4-320, ran the 40 and 552. We should definitely have Chris Scott on because I had no problem with Chris Scott.

It was just, he was right next to me. Born in Palmetto, Georgia, he's 34 years of age. He's, we're probably have more in common than we have different just that day. He didn't, he probably didn't feel it. He was just probably like, is this guy nuts? He punched me really hard in the face mask. Nate, what were you saying? I was going to say, off of the mud bug comment,

over having the overuse of baby powder or gold bond to, to combat chafing during camp. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And fucking it's all over your bathroom floor in the hotel. Like you walk in your bathroom floor and then it's on your feet because it's on the ground and it's in your carpet. Yeah. Just all over, but it's a necessity. It is a necessity. Chafing's awful, but what's worse than chafing is blisters.

And if you don't have a good pair of cleats and I don't care how tough you are, bad blisters in camp, like the first day you feel them coming. You got to fix it. You got to fix it. I don't know what you got to do. Taking them cleats all mad, rigid. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Let's stop this before it start. It's the same way the coaches are talking to me in meetings.

I don't know what you got to do to fix it, but you got to fix it. That's what I'm saying to the trainers. I don't know what you have to do to these cleats or the back of my heel, but this can't be here tomorrow. When they wouldn't tell you how much you play in a preseason game, that shit is the most immature thing that pro football coaches do on the planet, okay? Everything in y'all's world has to be regimented down to the minute, okay? everything like you get a bathroom break at 337 to 339 but you can't tell me how many car crashes

I'm going to be in on Friday because you think I'm a child I don't know you might play you know like guys are walking around in the hotel on a Saturday night whispering trying to figure out if anybody fucking knows dude that's not pro sports I think they most of the time they probably just don't know you're right and it runs down And what coaches hate to say is I don't know. Yeah. They won't tell me because if they say a headman won't tell me, that makes you look weak. It does.

It's not, though. It's not weak to say, fuck, dude, you know, shit runs downhill. I don't know. You just got to go out there and bust your ass and you'll be out there sooner. Also, dealing with other people's anxiety during camp, hearing, hearing guys count the room. Like, damn, they're only going to keep this many deliming. if if if this person is still here after the first cuts there's no way i can make it like what am i going to do and like hearing that like every single day like from people like if you're in a locker

and you're just you're just trying to go go to work to hear that all the time it literally sucks because you want to be like yo shut the fuck up but at the same time it's just like yo you don't want to you don't want to start anything it's a it's a high pressure situation for 90% of the locker room and you never know what else is going on but to hear people project and just be like beat like it's really the negativity just being like oh yeah it's a negativity but there's no way I can do this like when you just like uh this rough when a young guy at your position is fucking good is really good like let me see what this fucking guy's got and then the first day in pass rush he's just eating or like you know the first preseason game which preseason doesn't matter

all that much, but, you know, like, that was tough, especially when you got older. I don't know if you ever had a rabbit behind you chasing you, but. I was the rabbit. Yeah, you were the rabbit. I was the rabbit. And it's just like, it changes. It starts being a business. Guys, like, it's kind of just like a what's up.

Like some guys, they still want to give you tips. And other guys is just kind of like, yo, get your reps, yo, get your reps, do your thing. But I would try to help. But I'm not going to lie. Like, it wasn't fun to see Derek Barnett hit. the outside of his knee turned in the corner the first day like he got so low i was like i can't do that i can't do that anymore and and he okay it's going to be a long year like you know or just it's not going to be easy you know it's hard when you're a vet you sign someone you try to project like

all right this guy's going to be like it's so played out to be like i'm going to beat out anybody like that's like what hall of famers say at their hall of fame speech and like okay well you're Hall of Famers. That's cool. But like there's reality too to the situation. So the one I forgot though was when a rookie doesn't want to get the haircut. Or don't want to tell a joke or don't want to get the fuck up and do what the fucky ass. I was I was a good rookie but there is no way I was letting there was no way I was letting someone cut my hair. I wasn't and that's the one thing for me and Bates might feel differently. I don't know if we ever tried to do anything to you Bates. we were like, I was guys from Memphis, let's just let him be.

No, the cutting of the hair is, or like the cutting. I was watching the old hard knocks. They used to shave guys eyebrows. Like no fucking way. Robert, Robert Sprang, shout my dog, Spleazy, but he was so ready to get his hair cut. It was like, he was the first rookie in the showers. That's a little cut net.

He asked him, am I going to put the easy in it? I'm like, well, fuck, yes. Come on. Let's get on. Let's do this. You already. I put it. But now, they ain't like that no more.

They got too much pride these days. AJ Brown the same way. AJ didn't want to tell a joke. AJ didn't want to do anything. No, AJ wanted to be out to be it tough. Hey, well, guess what? JCP was like that. If you can take it 85 to the house on a fucking slant,

you don't have to do a damn thing. Sit your ass out. No, I don't want to tell them jokes. I know you do. But there's a reason he doesn't want to tell the jokes because he's probably not good at jokes. And I don't want to hear his bad jokes. either.

Oh man, the singing, Jeff Fisher, the first day, though, we did walk in and we were like sing, sing, sing. This is the first day he walked in the building. This is your rookie year, right? We did. Hold on. Was your rookie year, Fish's first year? Fish rookie year was 12.

So imagine when I figured out, like, vet on the team, like, I'm chanting sing to rookies and Fish stops the meeting and is like, hey, guys, we don't make these rookies sing. we're going to need him and it was the most deflating feeling like I felt like such an asshole so like he's the only coach I've ever had that actually treated rookies with a lot of respect and I actually after he did that changed my mind a lot because I was like you know what like I do need to depend on that guy because if the fucking outside backers not giving me the call like you know I'm gonna it's going to affect you know my livelihood for sure he's a rookie you know it's you that did put somebody keys and shit in a frozen bucket i put keys in a frozen bucket yeah you put

somebody it really couldn't have been me it really couldn't have been me somebody they put some keys in the in a in a it's probably william bro i was and froze the bucket no that wasn't me all the water in my bad keys at the bottom oh that's not in my arsenal um that's not in my arsenal uh hey batesi come back again bro we got to do some uh some raw room green light crossover all and break making's rules. I'm blue watch for us and send me that contract over. You hear that? We said,

we took that shit back, though, we're doing some talking. All right, let's get on the same team here. Fingers crossed, hey, Batesi,

look out for Poo Shisty, okay? He's out of Memphis. Yeah, I'm out of Poo Shishi, man. Money bag, money bag, money made mafia.

Hey, I go down the list. We got it. We can be out of the list, bro. 30, Big 30. 30.

We got, we killed in the bad game. You got it on. I got to say per capita Memphis might be one of the best like rap cities of all time Chris Chris is a huge huge young Buck fan huge

I don't really but I did like G unit for a while I actually thought young Buck wasn't bad Macon's looking at me like now we're gonna talk about rap music Love is love everybody love is love Love is love take it easy