Green Light with Chris Long - Jason Kelce! Nicole Auerbach! NCAA Tourney & Ways for Duke to Lose. NASCAR, WWE & THE OSCARS SLAP.

Episode Date: March 29, 2022

(2:20) - Hello, Layup Line and a Review of the Oscars Altercation Between Will Smith and Chris Rock. (35:43) - NCAA Tournament Elite Eight Review and WWE Excitement. (57:19) - Nicole Auerbach, Senior Writer for The Athletic, Talks NCAA Tournament, Best Ways for Duke to Lose, Saint Peters, Gonzaga and Preview of the Final Four. (1:23:33) - Chris and Nate on Wrestling and NASCAR. (1:34:37) - Jason Kelce Talks Jordan Mailata's Singing Voice, Jason's Own Singing Voice, Coming Back to the Eagles, Jalen Hurts and Ends with a Mailbag. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Eagle Center Jason Kelsey comes through. He's going to talk about Jordan Milata's singing pipes, and Jason Kelsey's got some pipes of his own. So talk Jalen Hertz. He's going to do a little mailbag. And in between and all over, Chris Macon and Dr. Fax talk about a whole slew of things, wrestling, NASCAR, get in the NCAA tournament. And most importantly, they roll through the slap scene and heard around the world. Y'all enjoy. Guys, this was the best weekend ever of 2022.

I'm calling it right now. Can't get any better. We had Final 4. Wikiwau. We had the slap heard around the world. Wikiwawa, Wild West. Nate and I went to wrestling. Reed cut his hair.

uh albert pool host fucking made his return to st louis i didn't even see it because of all the stuff that happened yesterday and um we got an air purifier downstairs Antonio brown also met pit bull for the first time didn't know it was uh not pit bull dapped up a you know a pit bull look alike and Tony was a big fan it's chaos this weekend none of those things deserve billing with with the slap we're gonna get to the slap Her around the world. We're going to get to the slap in a bit. It's my birthday today, Make.

Oh, let you be the first. Yeah, I'm gonna do the thing where I announce my own birthday. And I'm saying that because I'm making an excuse. I was ready to go for this podcast. Dr. Fax brought in a gift. He brought in this like, uh, it was, it was like off-puttingly romantic looking. Like it was almost like he got it, you know, around Valentine's Day. It was red vase and everything.

And there's a bunch of candy in there and I'm pulling the candy out and I get to the bottom. out and I get to the bottom and there's a there's a smear and off ice and so I had to chuck a smear and off ice before we recorded this podcast which fucking sucks it's really thrown me off my game it makes me think of the year 2009 when that was funny and a thing I you know I was the victim of it and I laughed I there was some conversation as to whether or not this was a fair way to ice somebody and I sincerely have to defer because because I don't recall. It's been so many years.

Well, for me, it's been three months. We were doing a live stream, I think, and I got iced. So this one went down a little bit easier. It was pretty warm. Thank you, Nate. I appreciate it. That was really sweet to think of me, man. Balloons and the whole thing.

I was at the store. It's kind of hard chopping for a millionaire for his birthday. So you just poison him. Docks. So you just poison him with alcohol. So I was like, balloons, candy. and a nice ice. That was a great way to start the day.

Nate, you weren't the only one with your thinking cap on. Chris, you mean a lot to me. Love you very much. Here you go. On this, your birthday. So who would win? Yeah, man. Thank you.

I appreciate it. Welcome. Did you get that from the back? For the pile. Yeah, no, it's off your desk, but it's the thought that counts. That's a walrus versus elephant seal. So you're not the one that got me the donuts? Because I got donuts just a moment ago from the best donut place in town.

it's right down the street I mean like it's head and shoulders above the competition that was from the entire office I would give it a ringing endorsement this place talking about keep my bakery's name out your fucking mouth

that's the whole thing keep my bakery's name out your fucking mouth so like a couple months ago somebody told me about redacted bakery and how good the donuts were.

And maybe it was you. That's right. Thanks. And so the next morning I took my kids there. It was like, what you do? You take your kids to a donut shop. Man, the text I got, I sent making a picture. I was there right when it opened up.

He was so fucking mad, dude. You know, more than one person can enjoy a bakery. And somebody told you about this bakery. It's not like you stumbled upon the grand opening. No, dog. I found it organically in a while ago. And Cowboy knows this, they run out of things. They're not just getting them on a palate from a container ship across the, they run out, okay?

Yeah. So if you're going to tell everybody about it, that affects me. That affects others. It's incredible. Facts a lot of people. He legitimately gets angry if you talk about the donuts. So they're doing just fine. They're not going to go out of business.

So here's what I want for my birthday. I think this podcast is going to take the next level if you slap me today. I think this podcast is going to go to the next level. I think our subscribers would like double. if you slap me today. Like if there's any day that you strike somebody today is the day.

Okay. What if I hurt you? What if it actually hurts? What if it hurts? I mean, it might hurt a little bit. What if it leaves a mark? My kid hurts me.

I mean, it's even better. I mean, worried about it. Have you watched those slapping competitions? Maybe you knock them out cold. What if I knock you out cold? And your street crack goes through the roof.

Yeah, that these are all like good things for you. Let's see me. I guess it speaks to me in my integrity. I'm thinking about you. Yeah. And what could possibly happen adversely to you and your person? Who's the big guy in Jacksonville?

You used to get the shit slapped out of before games. It's the same thing for me. John Henderson from Tennessee. I feel like every football team has one guy in the weight room. That'll take a slap before like lifting. Like, ah. I have never played with a guy that, that arranged his own pimps smack. No.

Dude, like that was a once in a lifetime thing, John Henderson. but you know what Chris Rock ate that like John Henderson Let's let's just let's get to talking about it I mean we can do our we can do our hello Lawrence Kansas Lawrence Kansas Okay we wouldn't mention the Jayhawks We'll get into it one of our last best shots at I get in the Dukies Out of this bad boy which would result that that particular national championship for Duke University

Would you smack me if Duke won a national championship would result in a tattoo for Dr. Fax? Yeah If I'm gonna smack you ever it'll be now it'll be today. Okay, good. But like my hand, I've never slapped. Yeah. Anybody. Yeah. My hand's very cold. And I just, I don't know. There is no HR department here, right? No, there's no HR department. And this is on, this is being recorded. So I guess there's no downside. Yeah, there's absolutely no downside. But you would want me to go 100%. A hundred percent. See, if you want me to go like 80, that's where I don't know because I've never done it before. Go 100% dude. Okay. Like, I'm not worried about it. No brother alone. And then like, do I try to make it,

like like loud or do I try to like follow through get through it and actually hurt him I don't know my objective you ever slap some ass before yeah I guess I have picture his cheek like a ass oh okay there you go that sound you try to that sound you try to get when you want to slap slap a ass and get satisfied right on the cheek okay so you are looking for like a four out of 10 you're not looking for I mean how do you smack asses okay but here's what I said about last night before we get like Will Smith's hand is still tingling like after you smack something like that like your hand tingles for a while I think his hand was tingling like at the after party I think this was one of the best off script moments in TV history easily maybe the best

one of the best moments in history I think you can stop there okay given given one of the The most important moments in the assassination of Arch Duke Franz Ferdinand and Will Smith smacking Chris Rock. Yeah. Like Chris Rock's hands were behind his back. Dude, and they barely left behind his back. Yeah. I think we'll get to Will Smith in a second. And he had to disguise it a while about what he was about to do.

Only he knew. I think with Chris Rock, his street, Craig goes up. Like, he told a joke before we get into this thing. I don't know what the comedian code is, and you guys can tell me you probably watch more stand-up comedy than me, Matt, Reed, anybody really here, because I think 70% of it sucks. But, like, you can make a disease joke,

but when you attach, like, a subject to a disease joke who has a disease and is in the front row, maybe consider that you might have to deal with the husband if he's at the show. Like, I don't know whether it's Will Smith or not. Plus, he had plenty of time to know that he was going to get smacked in the face, or something to that effect. And so... He had a 40-yard runway

to watch Will Smith. Hold on a second now. He's been in Handcock. Yep. He's been in Ali. He's been in concussion. Yep. He's a swinger.

I mean, like, the signs were all there. He was going to smack you in the face. And I think Chris Rock knew that if I take this smack in the face, like, I will look good if I take it like a champ. No, I'd see, there you go. Like it was playing. And if you watch it, I feel like he even, like we were just saying, leaving the road to WrestleMania and seeing these guys in the ring,

make these punches and these slaps and these body slams and these different acts of violent look somewhat very real. That's the vibes I got with this slap. And this is also one of my, if I'm Will Smith and I'm enraged enough that I say, hey, I'm about to interrupt this show. I don't like what this guy says. I'm willing to walk up here. I'm going to get all the way there,

and I'm so angry that I'm going to slap instead of ball my fist up and punch. That's my thing. It's like, yo. A smack is so disrespectful. A smack is so dismissive. A smack is just so disrespectful, dude. And I think that's what he was going for.

I think he was like, you disrespected my wife so. I'm not saying I would, well, after I laugh at the joke for a while. And that's my thing too. You've never fake laughed at a joke. I think you've never fake laughed at a joke. He was being polite. No.

I don't think he was being. I think it was a funny joke to him. Like, I think he laughed. I think a lot of people. I don't think everybody knows GI Jane the first three seconds. I also don't think that Will Smith was necessarily paying attention. And there was like this moment of I'm laughing at because I'm supposed to be laughing. And then he was like, wait, what?

Because most people didn't realize when they saw it happen. that there's the alopecia detail. And whether or not like I don't know, we get in this thing with like comedy, stand up comedy, taking a joke, where do we draw the line on diseases? There were people that were like, it's just alopecia. I'm like, some of the most sensitive fucking people on the internet are saying it's just alopecia. Like I get that it's comedy and Will Smith ends up looking kind of loony in this thing. Like honestly, if you take the the apology and everything into account, but maybe, I don't know,

I'm trying to put myself in that position. I might be seeing the comedian after the show. But this is my thing also. If it wasn't staged, it's just like, where do we stand on? Like, is this just open a salt? It's not staged. It was like, is this. Okay.

So is this, is this assault? Is this okay? Because he's standing. He's standing up, like, for, he's standing up for his wife. Because it's just weird, it's a weird. It's all weird to me because it's just. Celebrities are weird. Yeah, for sure.

Open relationships don't work. I think that's the main takeaway. Sincerely. And probably there's a heap of tension built up from all this entanglement and all the jokes and everything. But honestly, like, this might be a little far. You know what I mean? Like, that joke might be a little far.

And here's the worst part about the joke. It just wasn't that funny. Correct. Am I team Chris Rock or am I team Will Smith? I'm team neither, dude. I think Chris Rock is a fucking legend, dude. But maybe he overstepped a bit. and here's the thing about the real world

is like you can get smacked in the face in the real world like that can happen anywhere and so to me it was a bunch of people reacting because it happened at the Oscars if Chris Rock was in a room full of people at a house party in L.A. and told that joke and Will Smith smacked the shit out of them everybody would be like well don't I mean like I know you're a comedian

but maybe that was a bridge too far because it was the Oscars everybody's like you have to act right in that space I don't think you have to act right in that space at all I don't give a fuck about the Oscars that's not a sacred place Exactly. It's not a sacred place. I agree with that too. You run the risk of somebody getting mad at you and we got great TV because of it.

We got some of the best TV of all time, dude. The Australian feed. My favorite, yeah, that one. My favorite part was Chris Rock after the second. Keep my wife's name out your mouth. He goes, I'm going to. I'm going to, dude. You crazy motherfucker.

Like, believe me. Don't worry about it. I'll leave it to the other 1,500 comics. We're going to do entire stand-up routines. based on this. Yep. And I think this needs to be said. It definitely doesn't.

But I'll say it anyway. I'm a big inner beauty guy. You guys know that about me because I wasn't blessed with, you know, the physical features. You're fishing for compliments. Of say a Chris or facts. You're fishing for compliments. But Jada is her best self with that, uh, do. I mean, she looks, she's a 10 out of 10 with that.

This is all her fall. Jada's a 10 out of 10 no matter one. Don't champion her right now. I don't want to objectify the, the, her hair follicles whatsoever. but that close crowd who you like the ball does it for me yeah yeah okay so maybe you you have watched gi-gain a lot did me more and Nate you had a great tweet I don't know if you were the first to tweet it but the Juan Howard uh like that that that he landed a role in the Juan Howard biopic was or biopic however you however you prefer is is hilarious um and uh people are tired today people are

tired today. I didn't get any fucking sleep. A bunch of people are walking around at work in a days because of Will Smith last night. And I just think that's the measure of a really great TV moment. It had Twitter in a pretzel. There are think pieces already being sculpted on this thing that are going to be Hall of Fame fuckery, dude. What if he had hit Amy Schumer? Judafatow. What if there was a knife in his hand? What if it was Kanye? What if Kanye hit somebody at an award show. You tell me it was marketing. And this could be marketing. Listen, what do you want me to go down the road? But I can, okay, but I can, the different things. Sure. That's clear, I think. I think what's, I think what maybe we didn't know before this is that

Will Smith is Teflon Will Smith, because nobody else assault somebody, sorry. And it goes back to the front row, accepts his award, goes up, gives his acceptance speech. And everybody is like, oh, how about, how about this even deep dive? How about this? After the slap, they seen the ratings go through the roof and he wasn't even going to win that award and they switched it up and they say give it to him now here's what i'm thinking they say give it to it's all because i'm thinking maybe he knew he was going to win that award and the whole thing was like you know a big themed like Hollywood people are just this is how they think on different planes dude you know like i'm going to get up there and give the performance of my life uh now this is if you're a conspiracy theorist i i at first

posited before i saw the close up that oh maybe it's staged they're going to come back later and be cool once they didn't come back and be cool later and really the thing that sold me was the commercial break seeing denzel and tyler perry who by the way is fucking huge Tyler perry is a big guy like talking to him and kind of consoling him as well as bradley cooper who i hope won nothing for that carnival movie and i'm a huge bradley cooper fan but like the oscars there's no point in any of us in here watching it well maybe cowboy reader kingston might watch it but none of us are going to watch that i was glued to it i was glued to it. We got to see Jessica Chastain.

I watched the award. That was great. I love Jessica Chastain. I actually watched the red carpet instead of Carolina St. Peter's. What's better? You watch the record. I went to Rasslin the second half to medicate myself. I could not watch. At the very least, what's better than getting a new demographic

for your show or getting the eyes of people you usually don't? Because now this is incorporated with the Oscars. Even if you don't like the Oscars, you might tune in for 30 minutes next year. To see if somebody gets slapped. If they're going to invite Will Smith, if they're going to invite Chris Rock.

Rock will probably be hosting the thing. Exactly. If not Will, why wouldn't they let Will host it and put Chris Rock right in the front row? Like, honestly, it's ratings. The apology, though. Let's just touch on the apology. Because to your point, it's basically like, hey, I was reprising my role I just played a Richard Williams, an asshole, you know? Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Like, it all, like, came, you know, like, uh, 300. He kept trying to bring it all around and tie it back to the Williams family and Richard Williams and it never quite got there. What was his speech going to be if he won and didn't slap the shit out of somebody? Hey dude. I think you're still going to be a vessel for love. A vessel for love. I don't know if we would have heard about God putting all the things on him and his life

at this time and place. And as you pointed out, he was so worked up or maybe not that he forgot to actually thank his wife. He just assaulted somebody. before. He mentioned his wife briefly. Which is the most relatable thing in the world other than the assault part is like forgetting something like that. But I never heard the name Jada. So Jada was not in anybody's mouth. Okay. So all I'm saying is all I'm saying is some things you don't have to take aside. Like everybody last night like went into this big debate mode,

these are a bunch of famous people who live in a totally different world than me. And, and they're different. And there was a comedian that made fun of somebody, condition that's probably caused her like on a serious note i know that there's like a comedian code and i talked to a comedian and was like hey was that joke too far and they were like no it was it wasn't too far i don't think so but i also think that when you make a joke like that you always run the risk when the person's right there in the front row and considering like the it was just the biggest read the room situation like you know will smith and is a little bit out there like you maybe that one was little too far. Now was it wrong to smack somebody on national TV? I don't know, you be the judge,

but I certainly like my kids, my kids didn't see it. Like I'm going to be okay. Like it was fucking hilarious. Guess what I read. What? Flipside to every coin. Yeah, but Jada profits off of some relationships with alopecia related firms, et cetera. God, the internet is beautiful. Hey, it's just a, It's just a lot that's going on. And to me, it wouldn't be far-fetched if a few years down the line, this was a whole orchestrated thing. It's Hollywood. All those people are Hollywood actors.

Tyler Perry, Denzo, why you're saying they were high. Why not? Why not to all get money? Why not to all get money? The alopecia funds are probably going to go through the roof over the next weeks. Look, Bel Air is like one of the number one shows that are on TV right now. It's on peacock. It's a lot of stuff.

It's a lot of stuff. By the way, it's a great show, great re-making. He's doing a great job. They're doing an amazing job episode by episode. But I will say this, though. What would you think in three weeks if Tyler Perry, Denzel, Samuel Jackson, Will Smith, Chris Rock, Jada Pinkett, all the main roles in that movie were like, we just did the best movie of all time? 1,000% to prove how great black actors are, dude. I wouldn't put it past.

And like, hey, look, we have everyone, we have the entire all, we have all these white people in a frenzy. Oh, we just, because that's, because it's like, yeah, honestly, honestly, it's like, yeah, honestly, it's like, honestly, it's like, honestly, it's like, honestly, it's like, it. It wasn't good enough. Black people don't. Right. They don't. Well, I don't know that. I don't know that.

I'm just saying right to agree with whatever you say, because I'm being supportive. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. You weren't going to smack me that way. That's not how you smack somebody You have hurt my forearm Is that what you're going You have now hurt my forearm

There will be a bruise And you see and you see How that happened? You just try to smack me dude That was a natural That was a natural reaction For you And you don't think Chris Rock

Would at least done that Because Chris Rock Thought he was coming up His hands for a living Chris Rock With our hands for years dude Thought Will was coming up To tell a joke

No no no Chris Rock Do you see how aggressive, aggressively on a live stage? No, he calmly walked up. He didn't bring his hands up. It came from his hip. In the middle of a big. My arm, my arm hurts.

You have hurt my arm. You asked to get slapped. Yeah. Yeah, but I asked to get slapped with a warning, dude. Not like off the top rope, like awkwardly through the balloons that Dr. Fax just got me, trying to hit me with your fingers pointed to the ceiling up, probably the, the top of my head, like, that, make it worth it. I'm going to stand here.

Hold on. I'm going to stand here. Your right hand, get me back for hurting your forearm. I can't right now because my arm hurts so much. Can you do a left? No, I can't do a left? You're going to go so fucking, dude, do you want, do you, everybody in here is going to get a fucking raise, probably asterix, because we're going to be such a big time operation after you smack me. With this podcast, there's going to be before the smack and after the smack.

The choice is yours. The team's looking at you. And obviously it was real. Facts knows it was real. But the reason we know it was real was because of how flustered Chris Rock was. And he goes to say, all right, now it's time to hand out a documentary for an Oscar for a documentary. He didn't nail his lines. As John Boy pointed out, he didn't nail his lines. And also shout out to John Boy with a great breakdown.

But totally flustered. And he says, I could. And I wonder what he was saying like, I could. like right after he got slapped he was like I could just that was going to be an August joke he's the young man who uh was entangled with miss Pinkett Smith and that would have just been incredible yeah but again like it's all fair all's fair in love and war dude this is it's it's it's it's showbiz man I'm not going to get worked up about this and if you're somebody at home who's worked up about will Smith smacking the shit out of out of out of Chris Rock like I I think you're full of it do you see

this discoloration right here. That would be you. Yeah. So you're going to press charges. The world is crazy because like even when that August, I was seeing the thing all came out, yo, everyone victimized. They won this shit on Will about him being a simp and all this stuff.

And now he's defending her. And it's like, oh, we love it. It's so great. You assaulted someone on TV. It's cool. It's just weird. Everyone's reactions. People's reaction.

I saw some reactions that were like, he lets people have sex with his wife, open relations. but doesn't let them make fun of a debilitating disease that's caused her mental stress. Like that makes no sense. Like that, that makes no sense. Like they have their way they like to live life and included in that kind of social contract that they've signed is not like, oh, and then when we go out in public,

people can make fun of the fact that you've lost all your hair. And you're a woman who's been like a symbol of beauty for your entire life. And, you know, like, I don't know, that's probably been distressing, I can imagine. It's hard enough for guys to lose their hair, right? You and me? Oh, for sure. For sure. But still is a symbol and even more fire.

To go back to Fax's point about like Chris Rock would move if he knew he was going to get slapped. Like I disagree. I think he knew he was going to get slapped. And he's like, I'm on TV, so I need to take this. Yes. And then he doesn't, hold on one second. And then he doesn't touch his face the whole time, which is like him knowing he's on TV. Like I need to not react.

If he was acting, he would have touched his face. He would have sold it more. It's just like if I told a joke. Hold on. Hold on. You had your hypothesis. Here's mine. Hold on.

Here's mine. That if this was a fake, why would he laugh at the joke? But here's a- Oh, do you answer this question? If it was a skit, why would he laugh at the joke? But here's my thinking. And Chris Watt... But can you answer that question?

What? If it was a skit, why would he laugh at the joke and make it completely unconvincing and leave holes for social commentary like he was just reacting to his wife's reaction? Like, if this was a skit, it would have best been written as Will Smith just gets up. He's mad immediately as the joke happens, walks up, smacks the shit out of him.

Chris Rock sells it more, actually maybe falls backwards and touches his face. But my thing is, this is what I'm saying. If I'm Chris Rock and it's not staged, why am I assuming why I'm standing there that he's not going to punch me? Like, that's what I'm saying. Like, I understand it with a slap. But like, if I'm coming at you, I understand that. Yeah, but like, you don't think in my head like, yo, this dude, he's mad at me, he's going to slap me. You probably think, yo, he's going to slug me. He's

going to punch me. I don't know, man. That's my whole thing. It's just that he didn't really flinch or he didn't make it seem like, yo, I'm not in that much danger. Because it's like, just like you said, like, if I know I'm about to take a slap for something I said that's out of line or whatever like that. You can man up and stand there and take that in the moment. He was waiting on security, dude. But me, like, I don't know if I, like, have someone coming at me angry. I just made a joke about their wife. I don't think that, hey, he's going to, He's going to come up here and think in his head logically, I'm going to slap him versus I'm going to punch him. I also think when you tell jokes that are really edgy for a very long time.

By the way, we haven't. You're probably thinking about those scenarios. Well, yeah, you've been waiting for this scenario. And probably as Will Smith's approaching him, he's thinking, I always knew that this day would come and it's Will Smith. I'm going to make the most of this. I'm going to stand here. I'm going to eat it. Whatever comes my way.

And this is going to be my one shining moment. I don't react, nothing. Chris Rock is a legend. And Chris Rock also, we didn't even talk about this. this motherfucker. I'm old enough to remember mustache Chris Rock. Like Chris Rock looks 17, bro. His life, like Chris Rock is just winning at life.

So Chris Rock comes out a big winner. Will Smith, in my opinion, if he's going to come out a loser, it's more about everything around it other than like the action of smacking a dude over making fun of a disease that your wife has. Or a condition. Is that a disease?

That's a condition. It's a condition. Wikim-wow. I don't think he comes out as a loser, though. I think they both come out as winners, to be honest. Yeah, in different ways. This is like one of the trades we had a couple weeks ago. Both teams won.

Now, I would rather be Chris Rock than Will Smith, considering the context. Most definitely. You know, but, well, maybe Will Smith for one night. Yeah, he was getting jiggy with it afterwards. No, literally. For sure, he was getting jiggy with. There's a video of him getting jiggy with. Wait, wait, wait, wait.

I would not want to be Chris Rock in this situation. You wouldn't want to be Chris Rock right now. You would rather be Will Smith? You would rather be Will Smith? You wouldn't want your kids being like, yo, Daddy, you let that, you let him slap you. Daddy, you let, you let those men run up in my wife. He didn't move. But I make it seem like Will's not slaying chicks either.

That's the, that's the trade-off. That's the trade-off. That's the trade-off. Everyone's making it seem like that's just happening. You would rather be Will Smith than Chris Rock in this situation. You would want to get slapped on national television. I would probably react differently, but I'm also not 5'4-7 and a joke guy.

140 pounds. He's not a UFC fighter. He didn't move him off his spot. He didn't move. And he wants to be slapped on a moderately successful podcast, so I think he'd do it on national TV. Absolutely, I would do it on national TV. I would eat it.

I don't know. I don't know. I think it's different. I think it might be a little different in the black communities. Give me a half speed. I don't know how to do HAST because I've never slapped before. Fucking doing. Like, there we go.

Fuck yeah. There we go. How did that feel? Team Will Smith. I'm not pressing charges. WikiWiwile. That was a good slab. That's one of the ones where you see the hit and you're afraid of the retaliation because that was a good.

You're good, dude. I told you. How did that feel? Again, I felt like I left a little, like I couldn't. We're not going to do it again because the next time. Okay. But the first time is totally fine, dude. Okay. Thanks, man. Thanks, everybody.

Okay. Hey, hold on. Hold on. I'm going to give out a documentary now. Let's get to the documentary part of the podcast. What's the instant react facts? Like, what was the play by play? Yeah, give us the play by play. I kind of blacked out. I didn't know if I was going to do it. Oh, man. Again, I felt like I left something in the chamber. When I just told you just to do it, you got egged on, but just your motion. At him was really funny. I told you that was a good idea, dude. But you slapped him pretty well.

Yeah, dude. Do you have it on film? Yeah. Can I see it real quick? That was good. I do feel like it lacks a follow-thru. It was definitely. The sound of it was definitely more.

You definitely smacked it like a butt cheek. You took his advice. That was a good, respectful slap. It was good. Hey. Respect. It wasn't. Yeah.

No, I think that was. Oh, I've forgotten about it. See, it feels better. Because now I'm kind of like a bad boy. There's, there's before that happened. And there's after that happened for our podcast. A. From here, it's in B.S.

Dude. No more BS here. It's to the top, dude. It's to the top. That was amazing. But it's like he slapped you like. Hey, George! He really felt like he was going to hurt you.

And he was like, like, and like my face didn't move I think what you might realize it's not I'm not fragile well I didn't think like you're gonna be in tears so I'm about to cry laughing in a week we've had at this

podcast somebody from downstairs come up and tell me to address the marijuana smell that comes through the entire body God bless that man or woman because I've had the same issue up here for several years well the foundation is downstairs and those hard working folks downstairs

There's every once in a while probably catch a whiff of the devil's lettuce. And so we got that air purifier and that works really well. So, I don't know. Cowboy, what's the, what's the brand on that air purifier? Is it Sonos? No. Is it Sonos? Sonos.

They do my TVs. They do air purifiers too. Which one is it? You know, Sonos is a palindrome, not unlike, go hang a salami, I'm a lasagna hog. Is that the most spectacular palindrome you know of? I'll probably sit on a potato pan Otis. It didn't bad.

Okay. Lama mall. Whoever makes that air purifier let us know the first day we tested it out. We'll test out again today. It didn't smell like anything down there. Maybe we could do an ad read for. Rabbit air. Rabbit air?

Oh. Smoke a lot of marijuana upstairs at your podcast where downstairs you run a foundation and occasionally court prospective donors. Try rabbit air. That'll be $10,000, dude. Anyways, as I mentioned earlier. Where are we on the sound machine for, you know, all the softmoric jokes and slapping that goes on up here? Yeah, in two weeks we've had an air purifier situation as well as the sound machine's crumpled in a ball.

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in this entire weekend. And like imagine at the beginning of a weekend saying there's going to be an elite eight and you're going to know who's going to the final four, but nobody's going to want to talk about it because we had so much good shit happen. We will get to Duke and Carolina. And on the birthdays, if you're texting me about my birthday, just know you probably won't hear it back until sundown. Oh, sundown. No, here's the new deal tomorrow.

Tomorrow is it's no longer your birthday. That's when you say thanks. Yeah. Because then you don't have to. Because when you do say thank you, you might be in a back and forth and you don't want that at all. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Or how about a love?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. You should do that. Yeah. Okay. Not bad. I love to do on my birthday. Take your wall down on Facebook so people can't leave messages on your wall. Way ahead of you.

I forgot. Wall, you're, the walls back there with this being iced. I've lost the URL, actually. Today I've gotten smacked. I've gotten iced. What else? What's next? She's another day on the job.

I enjoyed both. Hey, Rassland. Can we talk about Rassling before we're getting a little college basketball? I just want to say this. I went to a rassum match last night. It was perfect. So Meg and I have birthdays like two days apart. And so Meg was like, you know, I have this idea.

Maybe we should go to WWE Road to WrestleMania at John Paul Jones Arena in Charlottesville. Let's have some people come in and get dressed up. So we hit people up that would get dressed up. And we had like everybody from Hillbilly Gym in there to my wife came as Ultimate Warrior. and we had a really good time. And Dr. Faxe joined us. He didn't get the memo about dressing up. I forgot to tell him,

late edition. And Dr. Fax walked in to see Matt Conrath, Razor Ramon, looked the part, played the part. I mean, not too soon. Did you know that? No. Rest in peace, Razor Ramon.

Bottom line is everybody dressed up. My wife especially, I came in my stone cold Steve Austin. There you go. I've heard of one of the names now. I've came in my stone cold jersey. But bottom line is I found out that this was like all my wife wanted for her birthday. She was like totally into it. Everybody was into it.

And I totally get wrestling now. I texted Pat McAfee last night. And I was like, hey, dude, in so many words, for many years, I've watched you do this wrestling stuff. And I was like, this is a thing that I don't understand so much. I mean, I was a kid. I loved wrestling. but my face hurts from smiling going to WWE last night. Might be the slap.

I don't know if it was the slap, dude. I don't know if it was the slap. I have never had so much fun at a sporting event. I mean, it was insane. And Pat McAfee texted back, well, yeah, wrestling is all about the things you can yell. And that's what it was all about. What I realized last night is 50% of the whole show

is just listening to the crowd and the things that they yell. got to kill him, Seamus. Acknowledge me. That's a big, like people just scream shit. People are yelling at the refs. Ref, don't fuck this up for me. A guy yelled. Serious.

In character. I'm prepared for facts to tell me that that is real. You are prepared to. And honestly, honestly, I do think after examining this sport, this phenomenon a little closer. It is real. It's real and that it fucking hurts. Yeah, for sure.

I think these people are. pain dude yeah you're just rolling it like obviously that mat in the ring is like a trampoline a little bit but with some microphones under it but it's it's still hard like if you jumped and landing on your back all day on a trampoline you're still going to be sore bro no like it's way harder than no for sure it's like the women the some of the stunts that they're doing and like with the legs and twisting a person's neck sasha banks flip to sasha banks is like the michael jordan of wrestling That's what I took away from the first 30 minutes is like she had two chicks put them like

she like grabbed them by the with their with her legs and then just like jumped in there and flipped them in the air and she did this on like a high ankle at the very least because this other chick did some dirty shit to Sasha Banks. I hope she's okay. But did you realize that her coming out to the ring she has she has a feature with Snoop Dogg as she's coming out. Yeah. That's she really. Yeah. And another thing is I'm a big McIntyre guy. Okay, McIntyre might be my favorite wrestler. That guy is huge. He's Diesel.

He has a fucking sword. The guy walks in with a sword and puts it down before he wrestles. The guy has like a kill the whole thing. Yeah. But if you think Coach Kay gets fucking calls, wait until you watch a Roman reins match, dude. This guy gets all the calls. I've heard of him too. He played at Georgia Tech.

I told you guys that. And then at the end of the show, he's the classiest guy. You want to talk about like... Did a walk off after winning his... He won in his belt. He won a belt, which, I mean, holy shit. Who would have imagined? He's fighting at WrestleMania.

They're going to give McIntyre the nod in Charlottesville a week before WrestleMania. But this dude, he's the hero of the sport. You can tell he's like the star. But he was all class. He like stopped the show afterwards and talked about how I remembered how good Virginia football was that we used to kick Georgia Texas. And I was like, okay, well, I know he's probably, he probably hasn't been dropped on his

head because that's true. We used to kick their ass. He talked about how all he could remember was when he came here that after every first down, he would just hear, that's another cavalier first down. And how he hated it. And he was like, how about Virginia football guys? And everybody was like, but it was cool. He tried.

And he was super cool. So I'm a fan of Roman Raines, but maybe my favorite wrestler is McIntyre. James Laronitis called me before, like almost so excited that I was going to experience. It at first I was like you're fucking with me, but then he was serious. He's like, dude, it is the greatest atmosphere going to a wrestling match. I don't even think Charlottesville is the livest one. We need to go to a wrestling name here or something like that. Did you watch wrestling when you were younger? Yes. But I mean like I've never been to a wrestling match. Like I grew up in Charlottesville, Virginia. Yeah. There were no, and L.A. before that, when I was seven years old, my parents weren't

taking me to wrestling. And then when we move here, there's no wrestling. Like wrestling wasn't coming through here. So, um, I went down to one of the pay-per-view events in Charlotte is freaking amazing. It's fucking live, dude. Makin, you would love it. I don't believe that. Okay. I'm being respectful. That's why you weren't invited. And I believe, yeah, no, no, no. People kept asking me, are you going tonight? I'm like, are y'all coming to my living room? Because I have, I haven't been back in there. We talked about that. Meg, Meg was like, did you invite Makin? I was like, no, he's not going to say yes. There. I think Megan, if he, if he sat down, I, I think that, I think that WWA, honestly,

they hit every demographic and there's probably a wrestler that you can find and you'll be like, you know what, he's kind of cool and I'll pay attention to him, but I think that they do a real good job of that and you can really be into anything

and you can probably find a villain or a hero that are part of the show that you can attach yourself to. Also, they're really good about this at wrestling matches. They make sure you know where you are currently. They say Charlottesville. That would get me going. Like 72 times.

You would love that. And there's probably a couple of domestic light beers to be had. Oh, for sure. Okay. For sure. Yeah. I was on 50 milligrams. Okay.

I rolled in that thing just zooted. So, you know, it's easy for me to say it was the most fun I ever had. I took some caps. I was loving it. Oh, you were on boomers? Yeah. Share the world. It was my birthday.

And then. I was on a couple of benzos, you know what I'm saying? But I was just trying to get through the day. No, but seriously, I hope everybody is. And then they have eight people in the ring at one point. That was a little bit much. I don't know what the objective is when there's eight people. Maybe the competition committee could like discuss that.

Maybe that's a royal rumble. It was kind of like that. It was, it was more like a four-way tag team match. That's what it was. And the one, the Asian guy, like John Wick, the entire group. Like he just waited in the corner and then jumped in there. And then he started doing that. The shit out of seven people.

That karate combo. Next match, bro. You need to... In Charlottesville. Well, we're going to hit the road. Yeah. Pandemic. We're going to hit the road.

Um... You would love it, dude. A lot of Charlottesville talk. Uh, okay. So, I guess we'll do layup line. Wicked wild. Is it a Wild West? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. It's got to be. Now where you live back kid, who that is. A mean brother bow for your health. Looking damn good though. If I can say it myself told me loveless is a man man. I don't fear that.

He got mad weapons too. Ain't trying to hear that. And you were on this art imitates reality thing. Reality imitates art thing. Like there's a couple bars in there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Their references to fighting. Oh, we got a damsel in distress.

Perhaps Jada. Wow, well, West, Jim West, Desperada, a rough rider. No, you don't want nada. None of this six gun in this brother running this buffalo soldier. Look, it's like I told you. Any damsel that's in distress be out of that dress. When she meet Jim West,

So go check the law and abide didn't really watch your step or flex and get a hole in your side Swallow your pride don't let your lip react Chris Rock. You don't want to see my hand where my hip be at That's where it was dude. Yeah, he came from down came from the pocket the holster the holster he came from the holster also That slap total Hollywood slap as I think John Boy pointed out again is like he learned that slap on a set and yes and Chris Rock the way to slap like a Hollywood slap like you learned on a set

Hollywood slap would have been what else moon landing for you is that a what do you think moon landing good happened I don't I don't want to get people angry I don't want to get people angry hey whatever you guys want to

white people believe a lot of things in history that they want to believe so you guys are the one that twisted history up not us That's true. Not us. That's true. Like, that's it. Well, I didn't write any history books, but certainly people, pink people like me did.

We didn't either. I know. I'm just saying pink, the pinks did it, but not the guys in this pink couch. I'm not saying you guys are. How do you feel about magic? I fucking love magic. I love magic. How do you feel about God?

I love God, too. Huh. It's interesting. And now the pod begins. Yeah. Okay, so college basketball just so happens. We're down to one tattoo. And I really didn't want it to be like this, Nate.

I was rooting. I've been rooting against Duke, obviously, for many reasons. I was even rooting for Houston because I was totally resigned in my fate of getting a Houston tattoo. Like, I'm okay. I would have been fine with it. Little cowboy hat. I might still get a little space ship.

I saw that. That could be cool. That would be a little space man. You could do something cool. Now it's going to suck the reason why. Who are some Duke alumni? Let's figure out your tattoo. Adam Silver.

Putting a saber through the Duke logo. Oh, that'd be cool. Yeah. Kind of like maybe like a shishabab. I was thinking if I get like a cool like artist, like a cavalier guy ready to eat the Duke logo on the. I don't know if that quite is in the spirit getting a Virginia tattoo. Say again. I think it's got.

It's a Duke tattoo. It'll be a Duke logo. Yes. Okay. List of Duke people. You guys didn't say it has to be a positive Duke. tattoo. Fair. Like,

we also didn't say you could incorporate like your alma mater. Yeah, you know, but, but hey. Well, I'll get the, I'll get the dude tattoo first and then get the other tattoo later. Yeah, that, now you could do that. That's a good thought. Yeah, Duke, Duke alumni is just a bunch of fucking dorks here. I'm looking at it. He's U.S. senators, U.S. representatives,

NBA commissioners, MBA commissioners, governors, diplomats, military. Dadius Lewis, your old quarterback. That Lewis. Ken Jong. Yeah, a little funny man. I sack that Julius Lewis twice in preseason. Get that. Get that,

tatted. You sacking Thaddeus Lewis. All over your back. Yeah, just a big back piece. Yo. You guys are sick. Sonny Jurgensen. Dick Groot.

The All-Star! Dick Groot. Why don't you just get Dick Groot tattooed on you? Uh-uh. Anyways. How do we feel about Who is that? That's Dick Groot

Dick Groot looking good, man. He's around. Oh my God. Let's check on that. How do we feel about this weekend's action, make? I think it's good in that either the Duke or UNC fan base

is guaranteed to be crushed. Now, I think the stakes are higher for the Duke fan base, obviously, because of the farewell tour. If UNC loses, it's like, all right, this is our new coach. We made a final four run. Right. This was supposed to be,

all about you guys and we spoiled the dance at Cameron. I just, I hope, I think ideal scenario is Carolina ends Duke's run and then whoever comes out of the other side beats Carolina. It's just there's nothing to see here anymore if Duke loses. Like, I am not that interested in the national championship if Duke loses. Part of that is I don't watch Kansas a lot. You know, I don't know how I feel about Kansas as a program. I'm pretty agnostic on it. We like the Jayhawk. We do. They cheat, but not cheating, not trying. some of my favorite coaches, quote unquote, cheat, the guy down at LSU.

Yeah. So anyways, Patty Champs, we've got Duke still going. I want to add a couple people to my all vibes team. Can I do that? Can we, can we get a bench team? Sure, go for it. I take, I take, I take Manick. And I trade him to you for nothing because he sucks. Okay, I got Manick.

I want to add Manick to my team. I also fucked up and I didn't add that guy. I want some bench players here. So I had the Kansas guy with the mullet. I forgot about him. about the new cheerleader. He got some Miami. Oh yeah, the new cheerleader.

She went up and got a ball. But she did it better. She stayed in form on the way up with the pom-poms. CBS put a stat up on the TV to assist from cheerleaders. Watch Arkansas cheerleader gets her one shining moment by freeing the ball, trapped at the top backboard versus Duke. That's kind of a sexist headline. Yeah, it is.

The entire thing is a shining moment. But here's the thing, though, the fellow male cheerleader who's lifting her up, he doesn't get any shine. Like this whole thing, if you think about it, he's the base of that whole situation and he had not once got any shine at all. Keep going, Nate is literally recapturing somebody's tweet as the worst tweet of the morning.

Was that Nate's tweet? Is that somebody got absolutely killed for saying that? You know what the great thing about real life is you can say something like that and people kind of know you're kind of joking just fucking around or maybe you're serious and nobody's going to kill you. You can't type that out.

I'm just saying if I was the kid, I'm on a Chilean squad. It's just like, yo, you're giving her all the credit, but literally, I'm the one holding her up. And if I'm not holding her up the right way, like, I can, she can fall. She can do all this stuff. And I'm not getting any love, any recognition. It's just like, hey, I want to, he probably, look, he probably wants to get his Instagram and his Twitter followers up a little bit. It's just like, show me a little bit of love because that's all she's getting is like, is a little notoriety. Dude, listen, I didn't see this in real time.

This is, I was laid out a halftime. But incredible, incredible by both cheerleaders. Nate's take, notwithstanding, really incredible work by both cheerleaders. All right, I'm going to add a couple. There was almost a third in maybe the UNC game yesterday. I'm going to add a couple, Cam Augusti, who I almost took. You got to be fucking kidding me. Are you serious?

Yeah, dude. Well, Cam Augusty, I did list last time around. Why did you list him? Because I love Camagusty. Okay, well, here's why we targeted him. He plays for the hurricanes. His name is Cam McGusty. Yeah.

Yeah, well, you didn't say that. Season ended. Didn't say it, but I thought it. Season ended in the windy city. Okay, cool. Yeah, well, way to take my thing and be the cheerleader. I'm holding you up right now. So Camagusty's on my team.

Yeah. I'll add his teammate Isaiah Wong, great vibes. I'll add, I'll add Jamal Shedd. Oh, I'll add Edie from Purdue. Okay, cool. Really tall, great name. Yeah. Cool, awesome.

He's yours. What's wrong with Edie? You just pass up Eady on your big board. Oh, there's only so much room. J.D. Notet. Welcome aboard. By the way, you think Brady Manick's first name is Bradley. For sure, dude.

Who gives a fuck? He plays at UNC. His sole purpose on this earth is to beat Coach K for us. Did you see his pictures? After that, he can go back to a tent outside of a dead-in-company show. Did you see they were showing his pictures without a beard in here? Yeah. Yeah.

He looks totally different. I love this guy. I love this guy. I love this guy. I love the cowboy hat. I love the whole thing, dude. He's absolutely. You hate him. The vibes are great on this guy.

I'm loving him for this next game, for sure. Yeah. I'm all in on Brady Manor. You start getting fucking hives. You bring out in hives when there's good vibes present. I don't know. I went to some third parties. They were kind of all about my vibes team.

Hey, a couple interesting facts this weekend that came out, hard-hitting stuff here. Larranga. Your good boy, Laranaga. Five. Remember the first time I said his name? I said Leranga and the coffee thing? Laranaga, four coaches older

in him in the ACs. He's the fifth oldest coach in the ACC. That's wild. High opening. Now for a couple more days. Jay Wright, not Italian. His last name is right.

I know, but did you guys when you're Italian, you guys thought he was Italian. Did you not? No. When you're Italian, your last name ends in a value. Not even an Italian American.

You didn't think he was Italian American? Ingen a vowel. You're going to tell me that I'm more Italian American than Jay Wright. My mom's main name is Adonizio. I don't really see race. at all. Maybe he has Italian on one side of his family. Somebody told me yesterday he's not Italian. And upon further

research, when you look at young Jay Wright, I don't know that I disagree. Well, where are his ancestors from? I definitely thought he was Italian and noticed that over the years, that over the years he's recruited lots of Italian-American players. Archie de Acono. So I was surprised to learn. Stolen valor. It's Philly, dude.

It's, well, it's, it's, it's more like Bryn Marr but it's close to South Philly so I get the whole thing but Jay Wright is essentially Italian to me if they were doing a draft like on the Chappelle show like he's getting picked first round dude I just thought that was really interesting

Jay Wright's not Italian yeah you knew he wasn't Italian I mean it's just like off the you think the Oscars were staged but you don't think Jay Wright was Italian just off the last name bro it's just the last name you make a good point fact Italian He does make a good point.

And I never thought about it. It ends in vowel. Not if their moms were Italian. Bro. Oh, I know. It's tough for you to. Karen, Felipe. Lee.

The bell. I know. In 1987, when Jay Wright first got a job, coaching basketball, Massimino. Raleigh, Raleigh. Raleigh thought he was Italian. Massimino.

One of my best friends played for him down in Florida. Raleigh Massimino was like, Like, is that when Jay Wright got the job? Coach Mass. Right after Coach Massimino? Was he the next Villanova coach? If so, Raleigh was like, we're in good shape. We're in good shape.

He's on our team. And then he turned out his last name's right. He's like, he's Irish or something or English or something or Welsh. He's probably Welsh. Oh, Steve Lapis. How can we forget Steve Lapis? He was there for eight years. Oh, Steve Lapis, right.

The guy. Really bad color analyst. Well, not the night. Penny Hardaway wouldn't take a timeout. He was on that. He should call a timeout. They should really call a time out here. All right.

So we've got Nicole hour back here in a moment. And she's going to talk to us about some of the matchups coming up and what went on over the weekend. And after that, if you stick around, you will remember that we've got Jason Kelsey on the show. Some of you are like, let's get to the football. I'm tired of football. but I'm not tired of Jason Kelsey. We'll talk to him in a few minutes, so stick around for that. If you're in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, New York, Tennessee, or Virginia,

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In Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey, and Virginia, call 1,800 gambler. And in Michigan, 1,800-2-7117. Tennessee, y'all two. 1-8009-9-9-7-89. So I got Nicole Ahrbach here from The Athletic. She's got a lot of college basketball stuff out always. She's got a lot of college football stuff. Always we hope to get her back from the college football season, too.

I like reading her stuff. And then last night, she had a great take on the Oscars. That was targeting. Nicole, what the hell happened last night? I don't know, but the minutes and hours that happened after the slap, I couldn't focus on anything except the slap. Like, I'm still, I mean, it's hours, many hours later. It's like 12 hours later right now.

And I can't stop thinking about it. You know, we all zap-rootered the whole thing, right, to figure out if it's fake or real. And I still need more camera angles. But I just can't get over the idea that this just like happened. and then they just went on with the awards show and everyone's like cringing in the background. That was my favorite part. Because again,

like in a sporting event, everything would have stopped. Yes. And then the announcers, like everyone would have like focused on the crazy thing that just happened. And this award show just like went back to the script. And I just mind boggling. That's why,

that's when Chris Rock looked off to the side of the stage, like John Boy's breakdown was like, is anybody going to stop the show? Like, oh, I just have to continue. And Nicole's right. Yeah. sports. It would have been a flagrant too. Will Smith would have been asked to leave the front row. There would have been eight minutes of reviews, dude. Yes. Yes. We would have gotten the

camera angles that we deserved. And like I made the the targeting joke because I just thought it would be funny if that you had that in that type of setting where you then didn't get to go to the Oscars the next year or you had like a, you know, you couldn't be part of the first half. That's why he apologized at the end. Sort of. Sort of. You heard us talking about that. You know, it's funny. I was saying how like everybody's going to be tired at work today because of that. It not only happened and people were just buzzing, but it happened late at night. Like my aura ring said I got 30 minutes of REM sleep. That's absolutely bullshit and I blame that on Will Smith. Hey, you couldn't go to bed. I couldn't go to bed. And even when I did, I didn't get quality sleep. So, um, second question, how was the Friars mascot?

Because you met the Friars mascot. You got a picture with you cozyed up next to the Friars mascot. You're brave. You're braver than us. So what was that like? So I've written about this mascot before. Like I talked to a kid who was the mascot about what it's like to be the most terrifying mascot in college sports. And he was talking about like children have literally cried as they've come near him. And like that's just that's a crazy thing to experience was a college student. But I was I was right next to the Providence cheerleaders. And so the mascot was there.

The whole game can't tell you how distracting it was. Like I know that the Providence came all the way back against Kansas and it came a good game. Wildly distracting. He's like doing some cheese. He was like crossing himself and praying at one point. I mean, it was just, it was incredible. But because he is my nemesis, I felt like I had to get a photo with him. And I think that was a step forward in my life.

But I also don't think that it erased the fear and the, the stress that I feel when I see that mascot. I'm sure it was cathartic on a level. Did the mascot have a voice? Because a lot of times when you walk up to like a real mascot, they kind of like, they kind of just, yeah, they like stay in character and they stay voice. I told you I had to take a leak during practice. I went into the Patriots locker room and Pat Patriot was right in there. Dude, he was taking a leak too.

He did not break character. Didn't say a word to me. Just looked at me like motion to the stall, the whole thing. So like they never break character. Okay, I want to talk about everybody's favorite mascot, the peacocks from Jersey City. I still care about the peacocks. Even after the slap, even after, you know, they got trounce yesterday. I still care about Doug Eddard.

I still care about all. those guys. I can't name seven guys on the team. Aleppo, what's his name? There's like a drama. There's some really good players on the team. I still care about them. Talk to me about like what this means. Like they seem like an outlier. They didn't knock down like a bunch of three-pointers or anything.

They beat teams in a couple different ways. They didn't really like play above themselves. They just played solid basketball. Do you remember any run like this in the past 15, 20 years? Well, obviously you've never seen a 15 get all the way to the elite eight. So just by that, you'd say no. But I think you're right about the style of play because usually when we're filling out brackets or thinking about mid-major teams that can go on a run, you're thinking three-point, three-point shooting, veteran teams, three-point shooting, right? Because,

you know, there's going to be a size or athleticism disadvantage and there's got to be something to make up for it. But I think that's why so many people liked this St. Peter's team in this run. First of all, like they didn't, they never. Yes, they, you know, got blown up by North Carolina. That was a very particular matchup with the guards. There was a very real possibility that was going to happen. But in any of the other games, the moment was never too big for them. So first of all, you never had any freakouts.

You never had anything. Their coach is the coolest customer in the whole building. And everyone just loved that. But they played such great defense. They were just really tough. The players that we gravitated most to were coming off the bench, because they played like 10 guys, right? Like we just,

there was just a lot about the way that they were built that was different. And I think it's, it's remarkable. And honestly, you know, you say mid-major, it's more like low major when you think about the resources, this school and the size of this school.

And it's just so unpredictable. So it's going to be one of my all-time favorite March Madness memories, you know, and it's just, it's so unprecedented. We never see these teams actually get, through the first weekend. We never see them win that, when that other game, knock out a Purdue team that is so much of a size advantage. It's just been,

it's been a lot of fun. And I think that people really liked them for a lot of the reasons that we're talking about, about it being different, about, you know, that they really did have barely any resources, that they really did have a team that didn't have to make 25-3s to win games. They just did their thing. They had a great, great coach who just totally stayed in the moment. And their star player has a mustache and it helps. His hair goes like four inches tall and it's floppy. And yeah, I think that that does help make you become America's team. Yeah, I was going to say with Coach Holloway, he's kind of said pump the brakes on the rumors, at least last night. I think he said that as to, you know,

his coaching future. Like where do you think he ends up? Is it like slam dunk, Seton Hall or whatever it was? Yeah, that is the expectation. I mean, I think, you know, when you talk to different people around the sport, like, that was probably going to happen before the run anyway. I mean, he's coached there, obviously played there as a star, knows the area. I was sort of wondering, as he kept winning, you know, could he go higher than that? Like, is this going to change his trajectory? Because we saw Andy Enfield go from Florida Gulf Coast to USC off of those two wins with Dunk City.

But, you know, first of all, most of the major jobs are full and the Seaton Hall thing and his background there just made it too much sense. But yeah, I think, and again, I think everyone will be fine with that. I think that, you know, sometimes after a crazy season and a coach leaves, there's bad feelings. But in this case, I mean, there's nothing more he could have done to help elevate that program and it's his alma mater. So I think people are going to be fine with it. I guess it's just a matter of time now of when it will actually happen. Yeah, he probably has a pretty graceful exit line. up. Everybody loves him with good reason. I've never seen somebody who was so cool and calm,

even after they were getting shelled the first 10 minutes of that game yesterday. I mean, his body language, everything was just like he's just not phase. So I root for that guy, Philly guy too. And St. Peters has a bottom 5% budget in NCAA. Nobody's going to blame the guy for nobody. And the guy, one of the guys last night took a picture of him. He had motholes in his tights, dude. And I know, like, as a pro athlete, even when you have a good budget, sometimes you got the right pair of but you got guys on St. Peter's running around with, you know, penny-sized holes in their tights. Like, Shaheen Holloway deserves a little bit better on the budget. No doubt.

Speaking of another team that's not in the final four, Gonzaga, which I feel like we had enough of the Gonzaga talk there for a few days. But with a little bit of distance now, is there another program comp to Gonzaga? Is there an answer for why they beat these teams in November and December, but do not for the most part in March? And granted, they've made deep runs, but they have. haven't gotten over the top. Titus was on here last week saying watch them win this tournament and then become the next Duke. Where do we go from here with Gonzaga? So first of all, not shocked that Titus got something wrong. Yeah, that's true. Boom. Yes. Print the shirts. I, so I'm a little conflicted on the Gonzaga conversation because, you know, I covered their,

their move from, like there was that whole stretch of time where they were doing their thing. And, They were playing some, you know, really good teams in November, December. And then everyone would say, oh, but they play nobody. They don't deserve number one seed, right? Like there was that whole phase where people didn't want them to get a high seed. And they weren't getting out of the first weekend. So it was this nice little program out in Spokane, but they couldn't, they didn't deserve, they weren't doing the work that everyone else was doing.

And then they were getting knocked out early. So that was like self-fulfilling prophecy. Like the first time I went out to Spokane was when Kelly Olenick was on the team. did a Kelly Linick profile, but spent time around that programming to see how they built the resources there. You could see why it was self-sustaining and that they were, you know, why they were getting the best international players and how they were redshirting and their strength condition. Like all the stuff. You saw how it was piecing together. And so then they get into that evolution where they can get through the first weekend.

They finally get that. They're making the sweet 16. They're making the elite eight. Then it's Mark Few, one of the best coaches, to not make the final four, which is the, most backhanded compliment that exists in college basketball. It existed for Sean Miller. It's existed for different coaches. Matt Painter is going through it now. Like, best coach to not make a final four. So then they then they get through. And then it's well, oh, well, you know, it took upsets to do it. And, you know, they're really having to go through the best teams to do it. So I think

that people like to move the goalpost on Gonzaga because I don't think we like the idea of St. Peter's. we like the Cinderella's, but we don't like them being an actual blue blood, right? Like there was a difference between people calling Gonzaga a mid-major, and they hate that, by the way, don't and they're not. But there's a difference between that and then being like one of the blue bloods. And again, I think it's reasonable to say you have been at this level for a really long time, and now it's fair to criticize that you can't get over the hump. You're not beating, you know, the ones and two seeds in the bracket.

You're not winning a national title. But they've gotten there twice. And I think, again, it's a combination of moving the goalposts and then obviously the expectations too. So I'm very torn on this because I think it's remarkable that they've had the success that they have. And every single team that enters the NCAA tournament ends the season with a loss except one team. So like there's always going to be something coming out of it that you're not happy with how far you went because it's going to be painful at the end. But I do think that until Gonzaga wins at all, we're going to continue to have the same. conversation. And that's a standard that they have set for themselves now. But again, I love that

they built this. I love that this program in Spokane is what we're talking about. Like, should they be national title or bust? But they're probably in that spot now. And I think that it's fair to have that criticism when they don't because they've achieved everything else. It's a backhanded compliment for sure. And also holding them to that standard is a compliment outright. I do believe that. Like, because they've built themselves into this program that we expect, like, they're really good. one of these years, they're not going to lose that last game. Who's got better vibes? We did a vibes draft.

It's basically like, that guy's got a great vibe. I don't know. Usually it's a guy with a headband or hair or mustache, but who has better vibes? Chet Holmgren or Drew Timmy. Can you help settle the debate here on the set? Well, I feel like that's an easy one, especially if facial hair comes into play.

It's Drew Timmy. Well, you set that up. You said mustache and headband. But what we didn't say is. No, I didn't mean to set it up that way. I didn't even think I needed a set up. Nobody looks at Chet Holmgren and. says great vibes. But Drew Timmy is

a Duke level, hateable player. No, he's not. Yes, he is. No, he's not. No, thank you. The down 10 doing the mustache thing. Now, granted, that was last year, more so last year. Yeah, living in now. The player has developed. Last year, yeah, last year was a little bit more questionable. There were some

there was some of that. And I think you're right. If he was doing that at Duke, we'd feel a little bit differently. But no, I think, in terms of vibes with Chet? Chet's a unicorn. Chet's a unicorn. Chet's playing Dungeons and Dragons and going out and getting 20 and 12. Okay. Six blocks.

That's not a, that's not a vibe. Oh, I would argue it's a total vibe. Might not be the best vibe. It's a vibe. It is a vibe. Okay, we've had two voters on the show. We had Mark Titus, who is wrong sometimes, but I don't think he's wrong here because Nicole said as well.

So, oh, and by the way, we didn't talk about this. Your article that you wrote about the people that actually filled out their bracket correctly and had the peacocks for various reasons in the Sweet 16 and into the Elite 8, one of the people that you mentioned is right down the road in Charlottesville. Mandy, Mandy and Joe. I hope you enjoyed talking to Mandy. She's lovely.

Joe's lovely. They run a great business. You get your wall change. I sure do. I'd get everything there, but those redacted Grand Cherokees don't break down. Okay. Yeah. So anyways,

how was talking to our friends from Charlottesville? It was great. So she was telling me that because of their last name and because of the business, you just reference people like will see a peacock something. and just like buy it and give it to them. So they already had like a stuffed animal peacock to watch the games with. So they were like all in. And my favorite detail,

she was saying like got a one and a half year old who just started squawking during games like a one and a half year old would. So now the whole family does like during a free throw or if the team like needed juice, they would all just start squawking at the TV and. Straight out incredible. They should have squawked more last night. I think you could squawk as much you want last night. Yeah. You should have to talk to Mandy about that.

Yeah, we would have got to be 9-0. There were a couple calls early in that game. You know, then I think it goes the other way. Very much. Totally. Anyways, let's talk about the bad guys here. Okay, nobody wants Duke to win. I feel like this is a thing, like, even as much people hate UNC,

just everybody gets on the same team here. Everybody just kind of gets on the same team here. And we in studio are wondering, as Duke caters, what is, give me the best chance that Duke loses? Like, what's the most likely scenario? and then also what's the best most spectacular way they lose? I think we have an idea here, but wondering if it differs for you.

Okay, well, so I've been workshopping a lot of these takes since the regular season finale because I was arguing, obviously didn't know that they were going to meet in a tournament for the first time ever, but I was going to say that that Carolina win over Duke was the greatest in the rivalries history because of the level of pain that it caused Duke.

I don't even think it necessarily, if you really hate your rival, you are happier when something painful happens to them than you are when something good happens to you. So it needs to, so for the second part of your question, the most painful possible way to lose is probably something at the end. Well, is it in a bad? Is it a blowout? Yeah, that's what I'm wondering. So I think, I think that that it would be a tough way to lose, but you have so much time to process it during a game when it's a blowout. five stages of grief. To have the most maximum impact,

it has to be something like a dagger at the end or an overtime or something like that where you're just your heart gets ripped out and it's just the raw emotional reaction right in that moment. It's probably like, so it's for this North Carolina team, you know, it's probably like Brady Manick

like doing something crazy. Like he's on a heater right now, right? We all know that. Or Caleb Love like draining like, you know, something like at the logo, you know, like something crazy. crazy or even just, I keep thinking about it, because it covered Miami this weekend in Chicago. And they had this insane outlet pass layup at the buzzer in the ACC tournament. Something like that would just be so painful and incredible because you never see that.

So I think it's something like that. But honestly, North Carolina is playing really well. They might be the hottest team of the group coming into the final four. they've been obviously had this talent all season long, but they were so wildly inconsistent. They would just, you know, you never knew. They're going to win by 20, lose by 20. And now they're really piecing it together. Leaky Black was awesome in that game against St. Peter.

So I think the key to the game is to play the way that they have so far this tournament. But I think the most painful possible way is some sort of shot at the buzzer. And again, like something like an outlet pass into a layup, like something that is so routine, but also like. sudden but also very like Carolina right like rebound and passing and in transition like something like that I think would be the biggest step punch I got one okay bad call doesn't go coach Kay's way everybody knows it's like a terrible call UNC wins on a terrible call so fans have to complain in perpetuity about not getting a call poetic and I think if anybody's going to beat them fair and square

it's got to be manic I think if you've ever seen like Terminator and I might be butchering the plot but he's like John Connor. He was brought back to save humans from the robots, the robots being Coach K. Like Bradley Manick was brought to the ACC to beat Coach K. And it's shaping up that way. Okay. So first of all, Brady Manick.

Bradley. Yeah, he's okay. Yeah, no, but vibe. Like we're talking about vibes. That's like the hair, everything, the hair flying around, that's a vibe. That is.

Agreed. Major, major vibe. Agreed. I'm with you on the foul call, but like here's the thing. Are there really going to be officials in that game that in Coach K's possible last game are going to have a call go against Duke

that could possibly not go against Duke? I don't know, man. Could be a legend. I don't know. I don't know that. Yeah, that guy. Doug Sermons. I'd send him like an edible arrangement or something. Yeah, that's what I.

It's weird because they've, they've been around forever. Coach K's been there forever and they've never played the NCAA tournament. Coach K said years ago that the, idea of losing a tournament game for either side was a torture he wouldn't wish on anyone.

So I'm made to feel a little bit better that one of these schools will just be gutted no matter what. And we're in a little bit different of a situation in ACCC country as Virginia fans because I don't know if Carolina's hated like Duke. I mean, Hubert Davis

is very likable. Duke is hated more. And Hubert David, very likable, but I just said this to you before we came on. And I don't know where you land on this. As Virginia fans, who should we rather see win a national title? Because I don't believe it's actually UNC. I think Hubert Davis getting a natty in his first year is worse for the power dynamic in the ACC looking at us than Coach K going out and like, hey, good luck, John Schar. I agree. That might be true, but I still feel like there's no way that any of these

ACC fan bases would actually prefer to win the game. I know. That's their emotions, though. prefer. That's their emotions talking. But don't you think, I think I'm with you, there's so few coaches that have actually won it all. But he were Davis getting on the final four in his first year. Already did the thing. Like already is getting that impact of

accomplishing it. Keep that seat warm for Wes Miller. That's all he's doing. You usually see these things a mile away, so. I was wrong on this one. Well, for now. All right. Is this the most blue-bloody final four of all time? Yes. Yes.

It's, um, because, because of how recent, like they've all won a national title. Let's see, okay, no one from outside this group has won the national title from 2015 to 2018. All four have won since 08. I mean, it's, I think you could say based on numbers, you know, and in one of the final fours with UCLA, just to fudge the numbers, but like the recent success and dominance of the sport, absolutely. Who has the squeak toy in, in your living? So that is my dog red. Hold on a second. Nice. Okay. Hang on. Here he is.

Not a blue blood. Yes. Hey, red. Well, actually, so actually his name is Red Hourback. He's kind of a blue blood, dude. That's a huge blue blood right there. Look at that. Yeah.

That's a good dog. That's a good dog. And she's got the mechanical vacuum. The Roomba. A Roomba. She's pro-Robot. All right. So Nova, do they have a chance?

Without Justin Moore? Because, like, he's, we were talking about this before we came on, like, can you remember a team that made a deep runner had a big injury? Like, it actually won. It's hard for me. We think back to DeAndre Hunter. You brought up DeAndre Hunter. That's why we lost UMBC.

I know, like, listen, we don't have to front here. We have a Natty since then. But that's the reason we lost the UMBC. He's the guy who guarded everybody. The guy for Nova is the guy who guards everyone. everybody for sure. Yeah, I think it's, I think it's a big hit.

Because this wasn't a, this wasn't the Villanova team that was just peak Villanova, like super dominant. This is a very good Villanova team. They play well. They play hard. They have, you know,

Cogalesby is the quintessential Villanova player. But yeah, I think that that's probably going to, going to limit them in the, in the semifinals. I think that it is hard to think of something like that late in a run. impacting it. I'm thinking about like Kendall Marshall and that was like what sweet 16 when he had his injury. I mean it's I apologize for the no we're fine people at home like it it makes

us think about dogs. And then we said the Kevin Ware injury was just so like it wasn't a key player. I mean it was a key player they're all key players but it was a it was just so gruesome and like jarring that it's just shocked they were able to just get back together and play and win. It was so gruesome the title was later vacated. Yeah. You're Right. Against my alma mater, Michigan. Oh, yeah, you're a Michigan. Go blue.

Okay. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I think this is going to be pretty bad. I mean, second on the team points and it says third and rebounds. He was all over. And the way that he, the injury went down, like, it was right at the end, you're about to celebrate and it just totally clouded the whole thing.

I, you know, thankfully they have a few days to kind of move on and process. I guess Caleb Daniels will probably. step in for him. But no, I think that's an uphill battle for Villanova. But you know what? They've had a lot of success. They've won national titles in recent years. I think their fans will be okay if they lose here in the final four. So you heard the news. Actually, this just came across the ticker. Will Smith lands role in New Joanne Howard Biopic. So I'm sorry about all the adversity. Michigan's had to go through. I mean, like, you guys are just getting picked on the last month. What are redemption stories? What are

Deppian story that was. She's like, fuck you guys. John Howard was it. John Howard was trending on Twitter last night. Was he trending as well? That's great. Oh my God.

This is like the month of slap. This month slaps. All right. Well, well, real quick. I mean, I have this is, this is a question in both situations. Like, is it a slap? Is it a punch?

I mean, everyone initially goes punch and then realize it's like an open hand. Yeah. Slap situation. Yeah, it was a slap. I need someone to break. Well, Will Smith was definitely a slap. Was Joans? I think Joanne was like a cuff, more of a cuff.

And like a shove almost. Yeah, like, like it's a slap that also like you use your, your rotator cuff to like, it's like closing a big heavy door, but the door was that big guy's head. What was that guy's name? It's Joe. Joe, Clapenstein or Cravenstein. He was one of those kind of names. And Titus made us pull up his old picture when he was in Wisconsin.

and that guy is scary looking. So yeah, you got a very brave head coach. But anyways, all right, can anybody stop South Carolina on the women's side? Because, you know, we've got Don Staley, Wahoo Wah. Like, we hope she gets another title. Do we got good news coming or bad news? So I think Stanford's the team that could do it. They're already punched their ticket to Minneapolis as well.

defending national champs. Haley Jones is really good. Camera Brinks really good. Play together. They're just like very Stanford, very Tara Vanderrear. But yeah, I remember I started the tournament by saying like, is it South Carolina or the field? And there's obviously been crazy upsets.

There's a lot of programs that are emerging. There's more depth. But yeah, I think I'd be surprised at any at this point if they are not the ones cutting down the net. All right. Well, cool. Nicole, Araback. You can check her out at The Athletic.

and she writes about all types of stuff. But again, college basketball and college football as good as anybody. And we hope to have you back in the fall too. Yep, absolutely. Red says farewell as well. Red, it's been real. You're a good dog. You're a good dog.

See you. Thanks, guys. All right. Thanks, Nicole. Oh, one more thing. One more great thing that happened over the weekend. Nick Cassiolanos had his first RBI as a Philly. So this is going to be a lot of fun.

He's now a Philly. and did you see this? It was while an announcer for the Blue Jays was apologizing for a DUI. This guy is the grim reaper of baseball players. This absolute legend, dude, and I'm so happy he's in Philly. I hope he ruins a hundred more apologies. He was apologizing for the pitching coach's DUI, and as he's finishing, he goes,

and there's a blooper in to write by Cassiano's first hit by Philly. I mean, we live in a lot. a simulation this weekend and we're going to get jason kelsey here in a second but this weekend just proves guys that we live in a simulation i really do feel that way do you ever think that read yeah there's plenty of stuff you know all the videos where like the two people are walking simultaneously yeah like they'll get there'll be a rebound in a basketball game and they'll both get up and walk it's a glitch it's a glitch it's a glitch it's a fucking glitch dude i mean like think about it Even your Jawan Howard joke.

It's a glitch, but it's funny. It works. All right. Well, did he not look like Jawan Howard? I don't know. If it's a simulation, it's not a glitch, though. It's all planned out like this. Yeah, but you know, simulations have like,

this is good, Matt. Simulations have like hiccups. You know what I mean? Like you're running simulations to see what happens. And you're running, like, the way they talk about it is there's, it's a multiverse right so there's like an infinite amount of iterations of this and so like of course deep down in the hard drive there could be like a little glitch in the pelicans game where jj reddick and zion do the same thing because they're best friends until j j jc called him out uh but like and that is

that's the matrix just like glitching a little bit the the creator doesn't even doesn't even know that happened yeah just like zion duncan you see the floor glitch? No, that was a floor that was for injury prevention, dude. That's good stuff, though. I mean, for a second, when I first saw it, it's a glitch. And then there's a sign in the background that's like, we don't bend or something like that. And I'm like, yo, like literally, the cord's bending. It's just more matrix-simulation-y stuff, dude. We live in a simulation. All right. Jason Kelsey is going to join us. We'll talk to them about a bunch of stuff

and also a little mailbag on the end. And then take care. We will see you Thursday. I'm going to NASCAR this weekend. I'm also going to New York to be on Get Up. So yeah, like TV. Yeah, no, you know, it's transparently. It's so that people don't forget who the fuck I am.

Because like just in case I want to do something with this podcast, you know what I mean? So we're going to get some publicity. Yeah, I'm going out there to, I'm bringing home the bacon for us, kind of. You know? On your birthday week, look at that. Yeah, and we're going to NASCAR this weekend. Yo, NASCAR is going to be sick. Are we going to get to drive cars?

I get to drive the pace car. Are you serious? Can I sit in the passenger seat? Well, there's already one passenger. You cannot. Oh, they said no to Kyle, too. No, Kyle can sit in the back, but we can't have anybody sitting in the passenger seat. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Can he sit in the back? There might be an opportunity for him to. drive it in the practice sessions. I can check out. Yeah, maybe we can get you in the practice pace car. Yo, I would love that. NASCAR really has to say yes to this.

They have to. They need some black people. Is Bubba going to be there? Is Bubba Watson? That's his name right? Bubba Wallis. The golfer might be there too. I mean, he knows.

Maybe he's in a NASCAR. Yeah. But we're going to be at NASCAR, dude. The Toyota owner's 500. Legitimately true story. 400. So I'm talking about, So let's get words.

The 400 is a total distance. Yep, number of miles in the race. Okay, okay, cool. And boy, does it go quicker? So that's 100 laps. Because they're really fast. Okay, so, no, I don't think it's 100 laps. I think it's probably closer to like,

oh, obviously, it's bigger than a regular track. Richmond's a mile track, so it's 400 laps. 400 circles. I'll be there, ovals. I'll be there for all of it. So I'm literally a Toyota owner. Yeah. Get it?

Like this is my race, dude. This is my race. This is all the other Toyota's owners races. It's like the Green Bay Packers of races. Like we all are a part of this race. And so I was going to bring my Toyota Land Cruiser up, my old FJ 60. And we actually proposed them, hey, could he drive his FJ on as the pace car? And they said flatly, no?

Yeah, that's right. Okay. Well, is this? So I guess I'll be fucking driving, you know, a Toyota, Camry or something. something, right? Yeah, it's supposed to be super nice, souped up. Oh, that's lit. Yeah, it's lit.

Camry's lit. That was like my mom's like when I was a child. Last thing, dude. Speaking of your childhood. What's up? The wrestling. We got into it earlier. Oh, yeah.

Tell us about your first wrestling experience that you, and you brought this up last night, I heard in the suite. So when I was younger, I don't know if people follow wrestling, but wrestling pay-per-view has been expensive forever. And now the $60, $50 to $60, maybe it's not so expensive with inflation and everything. But in the past, that was a lot of money.

And they used to have a lot of pay-per-view matches. $50 is a lot of money. No, it is. It's a lot of money anyways to spend on a sporting event like now. To watch it, it goes away. It's not like replay. Like you maybe could watch it for 12 to 24 hours maybe like on replay when you used to get paperview. prison for putting pay-per-view on a VHS back in the day?

Like, yeah, like, if you, like, did something with the cable boxes, yeah. Piracy. Piracy. So I convinced my mom to, I don't know if it was WrestleMania, what event it was, like, and it's the first time that she was like, you know what, Nate? Like, I'm going to, I'm going to buy this for you. And she bought it for me, and it was the pay-per-view when Owen Hart, unfortunately, fell from the zip line doing a stunt into the ring.

I've behaved. And he ends up hitting his head or hitting something that he wasn't supposed to. And it was clear that this wasn't part of the show or what was supposed to go on. And unfortunately, he passed away. So it's good that we got you out there. And it was like a good, clean sheet last night. Nothing bad happened. When I found that out, I was like, oh, my God.

dude imagine convincing your mom to spend $50 on wrestling in the first night somebody dies i mean like hey nate do you think you and chris would be a good uh wwee tag team oh we would be terrific dude i i think could be v vince mcman making could be the fucking the the the hype man yo he would be a great like i'm like hey guy that act like hey you want some and run around and act scared be like yo i got my buddies here cowboy reed could be the guy that comes in and like when we're getting her asses kicked and like distracts people and then next thing you know hey Vince McMahon like hit us up next time you come to town we got something for the uzo twins what should we call because the uzo twins their match last night it was weak we could have made that better what's your duo called

remember we could be like the dully boys too diamond and silk diamond and silk diamond and silk or oh black and mild black and mild i'm not mild dude you're mild no i'm not mild you like that black and mild Diamond and silk If Matt likes it I think it's a good one It's really funny I know who diamond and silk is though So that's why I'm laughing at that one

They're both good Oh man that's funny We gotta think of a good tag team Yeah because obviously this is gonna happen I told my wife I was like I will be going to these events And I will be going to them on the road You see that? See look

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Yo, the fact that he said me, said that, you know, Charlesville, you know what time it is. Everybody was like, I can't wait to acknowledge this. Acknowledge me. Yes. That's, how great is that? They had a guy Zane that was in there. He was, he was yelling at kids and shit. That's how you know that everybody a little bit knows, like, the deal because these,

this mom and the kid in the front row, they got to see a guy. And called up the parents. Like, she was like, yeah, who's parents? terrible parents in Charlottesville. No, and then what about the chick? She came out and she was like, yeah. You guys aren't tired of getting your ass kicked by Virginia Tech. I was like, hey.

Wow. It's like, hey. I was like, I just got hit with a chair. Right? Throwing shots. Like, what's good? It also sucks that that was on like the top line of the research when it came to Charlott'sville. They were like, what are the inside jokes here?

I don't know what you realized. For 15 years, they didn't even beat the joke. I don't know what you realize or not. There was definitely a lot of Virginia Tech fans in there because when they said it, there were some people being like, boo. And then other guys were like, yeah. And I got nothing against wrestling. So anyways.

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So I got my dog here. Jace, you watched the slap thing last night. First question I'm going to ask is whose team are you on? Oh my gosh. I thought Chris handled it unbelievably. Like, I could not believe the composure to keep on making jokes. That blew my mind. That was very impressive by Chris.

I don't know, man. I mean, you kind of expect that kind of stuff and you go to an event like that. So I thought Will was probably a little bit over the time. But there's some level of me that's like, hey, you know what? Good for him having his wife's back. Yes, dude. Hey, I mean.

We said we, I liken this earlier to a trade that everybody wins. Like, you know, there's a lot of free, you know, offseason action. There's a lot of free agency stuff. Like some of these trades have been just explosive.

And I feel like both teams won this trade. Chris Rock's credit goes up. He handled it so smooth. What about his chin? His chin. No one's talking about how like, nobody's trying to check his chin. Hey, he, he,

Or that Will Smith has light hands. Like when you shake Will Smith's hand, like, do you ask if he's ever done any, like, hard labor? Like, you know what I mean? Like, I remember when I used to meet my dad's friends. He's from West Philly. Yeah. I don't know. Well, he had to move because he got in one little fight.

Been in one little fight and his mom got scared. Yeah. So I don't know, man. But fuck, dude. I've never seen like the world in such a pretzels last night. Analyzed it at all? Because, like, this is all I did. did Will went up there real smooth and he he like kept his hands on and so glad it was like it was a violent very aggressive like I mean it was as a as a de-line man it was what they call a six inch punch as a as a de-line man I think I think that would have been I think a D-line coach would be happy with he kept it tight he didn't extend it too far no so hey to get those old lineman hand down you can't get his chat you

You can't get his chest. Hey, I would have to see his other arm how he does that. If he could get a double arm slap, that could be killer off the edge. It might be an edge rush. It kind of was a double hand. If you watch the follow through, they both finished. He got good extension of the right hip. It was beautiful.

Actually, I've just talked myself into Edge 1, Will Smith. You're right? Hey, I've just talked myself. Sorry, Aidan Hutchinson. Doug Peterson, the Philadelphia connection, you know? Like, maybe that's what we do this year down in Jacksonville. Smith, edge one. Okay, cool, cool, cool. All right, good. We got that out of the way. Another thing in the news is the Detroit Lions, the fighting Dan Campbell's, that coaching staff is awesome. Didn't, your guy, Deuce is there.

Like, we've got Philly guys there. We've got the GM, Brad Holmes, who was in L.A. is there. Like, we got plenty of connections here. But Detroit is getting hard knocks, bro. So I was going to ask you, if you've ever been on hard knocks and how you would feel about being on hard knocks, I think you something akin to hard knocks once we did and I didn't do any content for it it was with Amazon I forget it was it was the

second rate hard knocks whatever that one is called I didn't even watch it but well we love Amazon here a lot of the things that Amazon does is really good like NFL Next featuring K Adams Chris Long Andrew Hawkins and Daniel Jeremiah love this but I can't speak on this show

so tell me about what that's like every day with somebody sticking a fucking camera in your face. I would imagine I would have been so grumpy, probably just like you. Well, this one was way less intrusive than Hardnox was. I didn't. I did not. I stayed out of that.

I really didn't even notice it, to be honest with you. Hartnox, I've heard, is more intense, and they get more access. Like, you just can't do anything about it. You're trying to do something in private, and they're like, we're here, and you're like, no, you can't be here. Or that fullback from,

the Bengals was getting cut and the guys or in his hotel room. Do you remember that clip? No, but I do remember when Jeff Fisher cut the guy for like Breaking Curfew, the Rams guy. He had like a girl in his room and got cut. He got caught with a girl in his room and then got

caught getting cut. Like both things. Like there were, it's like he's living in the Truman show. No, there was a clip of a full, I think we played fullback for the Bengals. It was like one of the first ones. And Jim Lippencock who was like the general manager

or whatever he wasn't. The director of player personnel is going there. Cameras in the like training camp room where this guy's sleeping. They wake him up in the middle of the morning. Like hey, you're cut. Right on camera. I was like, dude, this is the most aggressive thing. That went viral.

They like just knocked those doors. They had a hallway like a hallway camera and the guy was half asleep in his raise, I think. Just like his team issued care sleeping. It did not look good on the Bengals F. But yeah, so they get access like that.

I don't think the Amazon show got that type of clearance. But I think that Detroit Hard Knocks is going to be freaking awesome. I haven't watched Hard Knocks in a while. I'm definitely watching this year. Holy shit, I'm watching Hard Knocks. And Hard Knocks to us as players, I always associate it with like watching it in the hotel during training camp. So it's really weird because you're watching like a reality TV show

that's just like the one you're living in. but it's someone else. It's fucking bizarre. Like, you know what I mean? We used to watch it in the hotel. So we didn't have hard knocks. When I was on the Giants, my rookie year was the hard knocks where Victor Cruz went off against the Jets. Oh, where he became Victor Cruz.

Where he became Victor Cruz in that preseason game. And just like you're saying, I remember everyone just, you're waiting to go back and in the next couple of nights or the next night, they're going to be playing it on TV. Oh, yeah, because you saw it in real time. I wonder what makes it. It was against the jets. And we knew that in that episode, they were going to put that game in there. And it's just funny being on the opposite end of hearing them tall. I'm so fascinated by Hard Knocks.

Anyways, I do a whole other thing on it. But Detroit Hard Knocks is going to be like a top five Hard Knocks, period. I guarantee it. All right. So you had the National Anthem recently. You made news singing the National Anthem. Hey, dude, I didn't know you had all these talents. Like, I know about a lot of your talents.

But then all of a sudden, like, I see you at a Sixers game, was it? Sixers game, yeah. How did you do? How did you do? I would hardly call that a talent. We tried to publicize it all week to, like, get people to sing along. Like, like, okay, I can't, I legitimately can't sing. So the only way this is going to be successful is everybody starts to stick with.

And I did the sound check. And I'm saying I can hear because all the sound is bouncing off of the reverberating off the empty stands. Meanwhile, all the Denver Nuggets players are laughing. No, did he do? They were like, who is this guy? Is he an artist? Like, who is this guy?

They had no idea what was going on. So they thought it was like a joke. Zach Brown sucks, man. And then I go out there for the real thing. I mean, I thought I forgot what nervous was. I realized that doing that I was like you know I haven't been nervous nervous in a long time I was

so never mind because the talent I was referring to was actually just like the balls on you to just fucking get up there and sing that like I didn't even watch it I figure you like maybe you were good at singing and you got invited like one of those things or maybe like just because you're such a Philly guy and you're coming back another year like this would be a raucous thing and I get your strategy that's what I

have done too but i'm really happy to hear you were nervous like you're human because i've never seen you nervous about anything you know what i mean like you just don't seem to have a lot of shame and i mean that is a compliment yeah no it was i was not i don't even know what i was new i was going to be terrible so i don't know why i was nervous but i was the nuggets players laughing at you the generation and the rehearsals bro i start singing once like the real thing is going on And I can't hear a single thing. I'm like, is the mic even on right now? Nobody is singing along.

And I'm like, this is the worst case scenario. None of this is going according to plan. So I just start yelling as loud as I can't try and get energy into it. And luckily, that kind of got the crowd into it and it kind of brought it home. But it was. They want to see. Yeah. And they really just want energy.

That's the energy. That's, I'm sorry. Congratulations. you just did something incredibly scary. I know when we talked on the steps, like there might have been nerves, but we were so drunk. I was so drunk.

I wasn't nervous. Like you had this great speech, but you had to have some liquid courage, like to get up there and do that fucking, were you stone cold sober when you did the National Anthem? Definitely not sober. Okay, never mind. I was drunk enough that I remember that I was not afraid,

but also not too drunk that I still remember doing. Perfect. Perfect zone. I was so nervous when I had to bring the fucking bell at that game. Me and Lane went. And I was stoned out of my mind. And I'm like, where do I hit the bell? I never actually see if I do this. No one to mess it up. I think I hit the wrong part of the bell. And the guy was like, hey, it's the other part of the bell. So did they just ask you to sing it or was it something that? Yeah. So the counterbarwin has a foundation. Make the world better. Wish Foundation for Jason. And they've been struggling to raise money through the pandemic.

So they had this whole initiative that wanted to get $100,000 by the end of last year. And they kind of did it as like a publicity deal. Like, hey, if we reach our goal, Kelsey will sing the national anthem. And unfortunately, they reach their goal. There you go. You're just like, man, I hope this fucking, I hope there's a scandal. I hope Connor Barwin gets caught with an offshore account. And this foundation explodes.

You're next. You got to do water boys. I would love to hear you sing. The next one, if we raise a million dollars, Jason Kelsey will sing again. All right. Man, like, no, I do want to ask you this. Jordan Miletus thing him a Bob on a related note. Did you know that?

I knew the first clip. There are people like saying they think is Jordan. The moment I heard him sing. You knew it was him. You knew his voice. Yeah. It's so easy. It's very.

Yeah. It's easy to recognize. Yeah. Like a, like just a big soulful Australian man. There's one guy in that genre. that I know. Yeah, for sure. So, Georgia Milit, I'm telling this, Dr. Fax for the people at home.

Eagles fans know this. I'll always remember coming home from a camping trip in Madison, Virginia, in April, a couple years ago, sitting at a diner and eating my breakfast and seeing on Sports Center that we drafted or picked up or signed, this six-foot-eight, 370-pound offensive tackle, air quotes, because the high-level. were of a guy in a fucking rugby uniform just deleting people like gromps is deleting uh colts dbacks when they played this year like there was one playing grong just like that's what jordan milato was doing with the football and i was like jesus christ dude i have to practice against this guy he was so raw in the beginning he's so good now like how much of that is stout how much of it is jordan like and and did you see this coming yeah um Great question. I would say, obviously, Stout deserves most of the credit for being able to coach me. He had never played football in his life. So, I mean, especially as an NFL coach, I mean, I don't know how often that's happening. We're getting somebody that raw at that level.

Like usually guys are playing high school, college and all led. So, you know, Stout really had to teach this guy football from the ground up. I remember, like, running into run blocks that's like head out. and like trying to hit the guy like this like bro you're not what are you doing right now you got to get down into the six foot realm bro you got to get down so you credit to him too he's worked his tail off he's he tried immensely hard dedicated himself was there for all three years actually his brother was just in the building today he hadn't seen his brother in two years still was in australia right it's the first time that they've seen each other part of that's because of the pandemic

but, like, you know, he's really dedicated himself to being a professional football player. I don't know if I saw it coming. There were times where you're like, I don't know if he's going to get it, man. Like, these guys are just, something's not right. Like, he's just not clicking. But then, like, every time he, like, thought about that, there would be another moment where you're like, oh, crap, like, this dude could be something special. Yeah.

And I think it just kept going. And then eventually he got an opportunity in a game. And that was when everybody was like, oh, no, this dude. and, you know, he went in and he just played really, really well. He's one of those guys that for sure is, like, a gamer, like, his intensity picks up. Right. And, you know, he just plays better. I used to practice against him and think, like, yeah, he's very good.

Like, he's very challenging. I mean, he's just such a, from, like, somebody like myself who's not going to just run by somebody, like, okay, I got to go through this guy somehow. But he was always a little shaky at the top of the rush. I felt like early in his career. Like I have a picture in my head of his first training camp of like him just kick setting and being like, Jesus Christ, that guy can really move for 360, 6-9. Yeah.

But then he'd end up awkward at the top of the rush. And I just don't see that anymore. And I think it's a credit to like you said him, but also stout, just like a perfect coach to go to. And I didn't believe it was going to work out this way. I thought this was how he trying to get sexy on something. And it worked out really well. No, it worked out great.

And like you said, I mean, Stout might have been the perfect coach because, you know, Stoutis coached at like all the levels. Like he was a college coach for so long. So he's used to getting guys that are really raw and green. And that's different than a lot of the NFL level coaches that only are in that, but used to getting players that have some semblance of knowledge of the game. Do you feel like now, okay, because it's like every year and I will ask you about this like, you know, the prospect of retirement. And it's so great when I get to see that you're coming back, even though I. I never get it because I'm always texting you like, hey dude, it's pretty fucking great over here.

Yeah. But like you're the OG now. Like you've been the OG for a few years. And I feel like the tail into your career here, especially after the CBA change. And every year, like there's less and less time for O-Lyman to prep, young guys. Like they don't get the meeting time that you did when you were young or I did when I was young. They don't get the on the field time. They don't get the classroom time.

How hard is it to like deal with young players now? You feel like young alignment or any different than they used to be? Is there the learning curve steeper because of that? You know, I think the player, like, I think just young players in general are different than they used to be. I don't think that's like a line thing. I think it's just like you kind of see like the difference of like generations a little bit. Once you start getting that much younger, then there is less preparation time. But you know, you almost get more metal reps because there's more walkthrough.

And the walkthrough is you're getting more reps than you get when. you're out of practice. So I feel like all those young guys are pretty, and maybe this is another credit to stop, but they're pretty mentally, like, engaged. We've had a lot of injuries the past few years and guys that are young, I mean, Nate Herbig, I think was like 21,

maybe 22 when he was a rookie, like he was young. Yeah. And, like, played really well. Now he's from Stanford, and so he picks stuff up pretty quickly from the mental aspect. Yeah.

So I don't think it's been, a detriment for the young guys that much. I think it's helped the old guys out a lot, though, just from a physical standpoint. Like, I mean, it's similar to the NBA and all these other leagues where I don't even like practice on Wednesdays anymore. And at first when they started doing it, I was like, oh, I don't know if this is the right thing.

Like, I feel like I need to practice Wednesdays. And then as you do it, you're like, oh, no, like I'm playing way better. I don't practice on Wednesday. Listen, dude, that's why I always feel like this. and I never got that because you know like Doug Doug wasn't as I mean it sounds like Nick is a little bit easier on the body maybe

but that's not a bad thing I mean like there's pros and cons he's much more open to listening to the like new wave of sports science or whatever like where Doug was open to that stuff but he also was still you know I mean he played in the league he was still

brought up like that old school culture of like you work harder you stay in the building longer like all that stuff I never got this neither saying all I'm saying is like I'm super fucking jealous because I mean I could I could tell you that late in my career personally I played better late in the season and I played better late in the season because my legs came back because like there there's like a reverse belt curve in the middle of the season where I feel like your body's just so fried if you're an older guy and then by December the coaches are forced to be progressive because of injuries or because it's December and then you're doing more walkthroughs and stuff and in December I felt like hey on Sunday I was waking up the twitchiest now the irony of that is that fuck I wish that was here all season but it seems like now that's kind of the state y'all exist in as players yeah any anybody that's either got like some type of chronic injury or anybody that's north of 30 they like

are really progressive with trying to make sure your legs are the freshest for game day and that factors That factors into how long you probably want to play football. For sure. I don't know. Practicing on Wednesday and all week and having to do everything, if it was still an old school mentality, I don't know if I'd still be able to do that, quite frankly. Yeah, dude.

Just because I don't know how they did. I don't know how they did. Yeah, well, they didn't. They just retired, like 30, you know, a lot of those guys. But, I mean, Whitworth was under the that was like the same strength our strength coach Ted rat he's also the sports science guy he came from the Rams so the Rams are doing the same stuff and Whitworth is what 41 now or whatever so it's definitely prolonging careers there's no question well I text you after I saw you run down

the field really fast for like 50 yards that one time and I was like dude you might be you might be doing this for a while like that was like I know every year it's kind of we hold our breath is like Jason can retire, but you looked good, dude. How about Jalen, man? Like, never got to play with him, obviously. But this dude seems like he's really got it between the years. What do you see in him? Like, what's been a moment that he's really impressed you?

Honestly, I've been impressed with him since he got to Philadelphia. You know, he just says, you know, eagerness to learn, eagerness to get better. You know, between the years he's got it. You know, he's great teammate, works hard. He's got that like, you know, I feel like the best players I've been around are, like, confident, but they're not like, don't think that they're too good that they can't get better. You know what I mean? Like, in his head, he thinks he's like the best player on the field and he exudes that.

But at the same time, like, you know, he knows there's things that he can do to get better. And I think that's a hard, like, avenue. for a lot of players to kind of go down because most players I think they need to get better don't think they're good enough and most players I think they're all like the best ever aren't ready to keep improving yeah and he's got a good blend of both of that so I really love the kid's mentality I was impressed with the way he handled the whole Carson Wend's you know situation his rookie year and for a young guy to really just keep his head down and keep the focus on just

controlling what he can control and playing the game and not listen to any of that other stuff showed me that he's got everything from the mentality standpoint. Yeah, it's tough. It's like the city that puts the most pressure on you and in a good way too. I mean like and then also there's this

storyline that you kind of like the context of how you even showed up there. It was crazy. I mean like it was nuts. I remember when we drafted Jalen or when y'all drafted jail and I was still in the mindset I was like hey my team and then we drafted three young white dns probably just like proliferated and family how is joe o'sman joe uh you know he came off of his ACL last year um and we got just run down the list of all your white D edge rushers man I love Joe O'sman shout out to Joe he used to give a malada speaking of a Malada He used to be one of the guys that gave him a lot of problems.

He was having a ton of problems from this guy, Joe Osman. Joe Osman's one of the best training campbells I've ever seen. Well, he was just the perfect bad matchup for like Jordan's six, nine, almost 400 pounds. And Joe was like this little sought off shotgun. Wrestler. And like he could not bend with them. He couldn't change direction with them. No.

And so it's just a matchups. It's like the bad matchups like we were talking about. We were talking about. So, like, for you, throughout your career, as you as a player, there's probably a player in your mind that you're like, hey, this was a tough game for me. You might have done well. You might have won. But like you as a player knowing, like, hey, this guy, everyone's not giving him credit, but he's really good. Do you have a player that you can think about or a game that you could think about a guy maybe played against you that you were like, oh, he gave me.

He gave me everything. And I never heard of him before. Yeah. Yeah. He's maybe not like popular or someone. like not really a household name yeah for sure um i mean put a forward up in seattle i feel like like it's kind of like a very like under talked about guy and he's like for me i struggle with short guys that have length because i can't get under them and they're gonna get on me before i can get

on them yeah so like at least like some of these dudes that are like six six and three hundred fifty pounds like i can get in their chest and just kind of live in this realm uh and if they're you know I'm usually quicker than most of the nose guards on pace, and so it's not that big of a deal, but when I go up against a guy who's like a squatty guy, Andy has longer arms of me, I'm like, oh, crap, this is just not a good matcher for me. So Poon is one of those guys.

DJ Jones, who just got paid from Sam Fran this past offseason. It's another guy that's really good, I think. It's all matchups. It's like it. Yeah. It's just all matchups. It's like tackles. Like, you used to play somebody that nobody's heard of,

I cannot beat this guy. Like he's either like got a guardy set or somebody who's like Dotson. Do you remember Dotson? He was six foot nine. Yes. In Tampa. I fell into a guy. I beat him once or twice.

But I, like I would get my ass blocked worse. Like just locked up. Like I couldn't like I was stuck on the steering wheel with that guy. Nobody else. It's just a matchup thing. Totally. I feel like I was that guy because I spent a few years on the practice squad. He would surprise the fuck other people.

I know Zach Diasi. from the giants he used to hate me well so this is the thing you guys are on the podcast here and i was just saying this before the pod i think you guys meeting here is the best way you could meet if you guys met in a football field you guys would fight each other because he is a tempo violator no i'm a tempo violator no brother-in-law no no one's fucking my sister at all okay so let's explain to people we're not talking about fucking sisters here what we're talking about about is like in practice when you've got a younger guy or like a practice squad guy and the older vet like there's kind of an understanding like when are we going to work really hard and when we're

going to take care of each other and even when we're working really hard sometimes there's no understanding and that's fine at all the time that's what we call a tempo violator and that's cool because I was that guy before I've been that guy but Kelsey doesn't like those guys well I feel like it's really honestly as long as it's consistent it's not that bad right like the biggest ones that are the that are like no now you choose now you've been sandbagging it all practice and now you're going to go hard the moment it's arm over me in two minutes and that's the one thing i could say i would say that hey i'm i would tell guys listen i'm going to go hard so you never have to know like hey is he going to be this way today or this way no i'm going to go like this

all the time. If the coaches, the coaches are going to be the only ones to tell me to slow down until that happens, I'm going to go at this pace. As long as you have the understanding, I completely agree with you. I completely agree with you. But there are certain days where you're like no pads, like that type of thing. No, you're going to be pissed off about it. Don't even wrong. I'm going to be like, oh, this is frustrating. So I just played a whole game. Now I got to deal with this. But I feel like I never really got that mad of guys that are like that considered. Like, Osterman is a great example. Like games like that all the time. right.

But like guys that are freaking like on and off like no, come on now. Like, him and Kyle fought a lot in Chicago. Like knew each other growing up. I could see that. And then fucking fought like like grown man fighting over tempo. Oh my goodness.

We got kicked out of a practice. Back to the locker room together. Yeah, we did. How funny is that? Oh my God, dude. Okay. So anyways, let's let's get to the mailback and get Kelsey out of here.

I'm just going to rapid fire him. this is from Landon Pitt so we know Landon shout out to Landon has Kelsey ever seen an act as vile as the urinal dump in the Charlottesville Airport

in the Charlottesville Airport bathroom are you shitting me yeah I've actually been a part of a worse ass no no chance dude

well this one not quite as public but So when I was growing up, whenever you were like on the road for like a sports tournament, we used these things called leaners, where you grab the waistbasket out of the bathroom, filled up with water, and then you lean it up on a door,

knock on it, and then they'd open the door and then the water would all fall in, right? So one, we're on like a trip. Actually, okay, I'll be fully transparent. It was a jazz band trip. Nice. All right. Yeah, in high school.

We did it every spring break. and my buddies got me so I decide you know what no I'm taking this to the next level so I take away his basket and I take a dump in it probably my most probably my most impressive dump

I've ever like it curled like you know it was like hotel it was curling around it like it was vengeance dump me have been sitting on a soft serve he softs virgin of vintage vengeance

he's fucking dairy free ice cream just piling up like an emotion And then I filled that up with water. Yeah. Put it up against the door and knocked out their door. Boom, falls in. So there's no punchline.

There's nothing clever about this. He just guerrilla warfare. You like pranks? I'll shit on you. What made it worse, the one school administrator who was on the trip, like was the door right across from him. So he opens his door. I see him pick up the bucket.

I just run. they made me they wouldn't let me leave the hotel room the rest of the trip and then he tried to expel me before I graduated my senior year over over this over shitting in a trash can and that's all hey man hey Kelsey Kelsey Jack just said you you and Shaq are now inextricably linked both tall talented guys but also guys that use their own shit in pranks and went viral for it in the last month and a half. Check just went viral for doing a shit-related prank as well. So if you're at home, look that up. Whose was grosser? You'd be the judge.

Hey, and the urinal shit, dude, it's one of the most legendary Instagram posts of all time. Kelsey, not a social media guy, like really not into it, but like got talked into doing an Instagram, came to Charlottesville to do our

conquering Killy reunion because he climbed Kilimanjaro with me. So we can talk about that it's the only time I never ever got an argument but this fucking guy lands in charlesville comes into it first I'm like telling him how awesome seaville is he comes in the bathroom and there is like literally the biggest shit

I've ever seen just parked in the urinal and Kelsey takes a video of it and just narrates the experience and that's his first Instagram post it is the greatest Instagram post in the history of Instagram you think that was just like an anger someone got off and had just a terrible experience with a flight and like attendance like yo i'm just going to shit in the urinal like i like i like i hate this airport like everything like because like what like what like what is that

what's the point dude was it an emergency the stall is right there because how because charlesville's small what is there like two like maybe stalls you can actually sit down maybe it was full maybe the shitters were full but even if it's full like find a waste basket yeah like at least put in someplace that it's going to be able to go somewhere. I cannot express the stench of this. Like, I didn't know that poop smelled like that. Well, it does when it's sitting in a urinal for six to 12 hours. I don't know. Or it had to be a night shift or disgruntal employee. Yeah. On the way out. How long had the Charlottesville Airport been allowing that to sit there. Carboring that terrorism. The White House just, they just drone strike our airport.

because it's just terrorism, dude. There's a fucking turn. It was terrible. Go on Instagram and look at us. Look at it, dude. Okay. So that's really, I didn't think you'd have an answer for that. Okay.

Craziest thing you did during your time in Philly. I don't know. That's a broad question. I'll tell you where I fucked up in Philly. Yeah. The dumbest thing I ever did was I set the fire alarm off on the plane. Do you remember that? No.

On the way back from the double doy game, you were probably sleeping. I was hitting my little vapeen pad. And the back of the plane just started going, beep, beep! It's 1 a.m. Dom had to come back, bro. Dom was mad at me, bro. Dom's never mad at me.

Dom was big mad. Oh, gosh. If that is one guy I don't want mad at me. Okay, if a football team is a car, what part is Jason Kelsey? It's easy, dude. The engine. Ignition. It's ignition.

You literally can't start a football play without Jason Kelsey. You can't start a car without the ignition. That's fair. That's fair. Right? I like that. Yeah, I like that. Yeah.

I've always compared it. I haven't done like the car parts, but I like compare different offense alignment. Like different like Jason Peters like a F350. He's a Peterbilt. It's not just the name, dude. Yeah. He's a custom-made.

Yeah. Dude, I can hear him Jake breaking, dude. like, you know, just like, I can hear it. Yeah. Do another one. What's Lane Johnson? Lane is like an F-150 Raptor edition. It has like all the bells and whistles and max horsepower and everything.

Yeah. You're like a land rover. A rover. Yeah. You're kind of luxury, real expensive. But hey, can go off-road. But if you had to. You know, yeah.

So I like that. but I pictured Lane as specifically a mid-90s model F-350 with four doors. White. I don't know why I picture that, but what? It's just what comes to the first thing that comes about.

Okay. All right. Travis Kelsey. What kind of car is Travis Kelsey? I got a Lamborghini or something. Travis, what's the one that came out with the SUV? They're like really high end line. Was it Ferrari has an SUV or something?

Lamborghini has an SUV. That's one. Lamborghini is one I'm thinking about. Is he a vintage Lambo SUV? I'll say vintage. Who has a nicer phantom? You or Travis? That reaction.

Yeah, exactly. How bad did appendicitis suck? You got two more here. It was terrible. I had it during the combine, and I was going in and I had to meet him with coaches and throwing up. Then I felt better it a little bit. bit. I ran. And then like another three or four days after that, it came back, went to the

emergency room. So you've been playing all this time with, uh, without one. Yeah, it turns out it's a completely unnecessary. So an overrated organ. It can kill you and does nothing for you. It's, uh, it's like, um, you know, maybe God put one into every human being so he could like discreetly take them out before the advent of surgery. press the button appendix I don't like this model appendix rupture yeah and nobody asked any fucking questions

they're like oh that sucks that happened no foul play exactly and now people can beat the system like me and God can't get rid of them I guess but cancel I don't know where I'm going cancel appendixes put them over there with Aaron Rogers

cancel them I didn't start taking them out all right so we got to start genetically modifying babies without appendixes. Hey, that's the quote we're running on our social. All right. GMO. Most beers that Jason Kelsey is drinking an hour.

You know what? I don't know. I would love to do. What's the Wade Boggs? I want to do that Wade Boggs challenge. Which is how many? He was on the airplane, right? Or was that Andre the giant?

Yeah, it was an airplane. It was like 50. 100? 100. A hundred? On a flight. I don't believe that. He had to be drinking just, just piss water, dude, because there's no way.

Like the little, the little can't. Pony cans or something. Like those, yeah, like some special. When they said Andre the Giant drank like 100 beers, I believe it. Yeah, he's huge, though. And he's, he's legendary across the board for drinking, like a barrel of wine or like all the sorts of vodka and stuff. Yeah, he's.

This was a lot of fun, man. It's good catching up, dude. I was like, I don't see enough. This is great. I see you doing National Anthem, Upside Out. with a keg. Yeah, I got to get more FaceTime, man.

Call me, dude. I agree. It's been too long. I appreciate you having me on. Nate, it's great to meet you as well. This is Travis's brother. Yes, dude. He doesn't know anything about football, dude.

He doesn't have anything about football. That's pretty much the typical reaction people. Hey, we were watching the, we were live streaming the end of the Chargers and Raiders game. that decided who goes to the playoffs and when it ended he was like are they going to the playoffs now who's going somebody's getting in the playoffs is their season over i'm like bro yes this is Travis Kelsey's jason kelsey's brother to me Travis Kelsey's jason kelsey's brother to me but I'm also partial you know they are two of the nicest people and two of the most different people it's

incredible I wish there was like a book written on it's funny because when you just said that like I started looking at it. You can see it, dude. They're this. The beard hides it. I used to do this thing when he was in Philly, when I was in Philly with him, and I would crop

Travis's outfits onto Jason, and then I would send them to him, like, when we were getting on the plane. Because Jason, like, to get on the plane legitimately, like a Goodwill, uh,

colored shirt and like a gym bag that like somebody had in 1987. Is this big? You can literally only take it to the gym, but he's taking it for a two-day trip to the West Coast. That's the Packies. Meanwhile, his brother's outfit is a $3,000 outfit at minimum every time. So those are those two, man. There's legends. All right.

Thanks, Jase. Nice meeting you. All right. Hey, thanks, dude.