Green Light with Chris Long - Jay Glazer! Michael Pittman Jr! Trey McBride! SB LVIII Radio Row in Las Vegas!

Episode Date: February 8, 2024

Green Light at the Super Bowl! Chris, Beau and Dr. Fax come to you from the Super Bowl's Media Center in Las Vegas! We talk our time in Vegas so far, NFL players running into coyotes and Super Bowl Radio Row life. Then we welcome on Trey McBride from the Arizona Cardinals to talk Kyler Murray, Arizona's 2023 season and his work with the Wounded Warrior Project. We get to catch up with Jay Glazer and talk working at Fox with Howie Long, pranks on set and working through his ADHD diagnosis. And we end our show with Michael Pittman Jr of the Indianapolis Colts who talks USC, the Colts season and gives us a prediction for the Chiefs-49ers SB. Join us as we get to hang out at the Toyota Tacoma stage in Las Vegas and get a feel for the Radio Row life! (00:00) - Green Light from the Super Bowl in Las Vegas (25:23) - Cardinals TE Trey McBride on the Cardinals season, Kyler Murray and working with the Wounded Warrior Project (40:20) - Jay Glazer on Fox, pranks on Howie Long and his ADHD diagnosis (51:32) - Michael Pittman Jr on the Colts, USC and Toyota Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Make sure to check out Fax and the King every Wednesday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FaxAndTheKing Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I'm going to keep it close. I'm going to say 24 to 21 49ers. Okay, I got 2721 Chiefs. Michael Pittman Jr. is on the other side, and I tend to feel a little nervous about my pick now because this guy knows these teams well. Thanks to Toyota and the brand new Toyota Tacoma. We'll be broadcasting from the NFL Media Center in Las Vegas

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the all-new Toyota Tacoma is the most powerful Tacoma ever. Toyota, the official automotive partner of the NFL. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. Coming to you from the NFL's Radio Row at Super Bowl 58. We're hanging out here, Las Vegas. We have a blast and a half. We're at the Toyota stage. We've got a Tacoma in our set.

A literal Tacoma is on set with us. Chris wants to take it home. We're going to see if that happens. Great show for you today. We've got a couple guests that stopped by our set, and we've got Chris Bow and Nate hanging out and having a good time recapping the Vegas adventures for you. Trey McBride is the first one.

He talks to Chris for a little while about Kyler and the 2023 cardinal season. Then we welcome on Jake Laser. He's going to talk about being an insider in the NFL, some Howie Long stories from their days together at Fox. And then we welcome on Michael Pittman Jr. Colts wide receiver. He's going to talk about the Colts season. He's even going to give a Super Bowl prediction. at the end. So enjoy the show. It's a lot of fun. We're going to have another show for you tomorrow.

Check out the Greenlight YouTube channel for all these interviews as well. We're going to have a blast. Stay tuned in with us. Thanks. Let's kick this thing off. For anybody milling around listening, we are the Green Light Pod. I'm your host, Chris Long. I did play football. I played for the Rams, the Patriots and the Eagles. Got a chance to do this a couple times as a player. There's nothing like it. also Bo Allen with me he was on the Eagles birds I'm the only one that haven't done this this is my first this is my first one and Dr. Fax also knows Nate Collins

is soaking this in because he hadn't gotten a chance to do this as a player so listen we're based out of Charlottesville Virginia Nate lives down the road for me Bo is is in Florida in Minnesota and does some film breakdowns with us he joins us on the pot a bunch So this is like the core group. There's a couple guys that aren't here. My brother, Kyle, who also played in the NFL, just had his second baby yesterday. So he doesn't get to hang out with us.

Super Bowl week. Father or two now, girl dad. So Kyle, send some love out to you. Wish you were here. Guys, like, where do we start? We start with explaining why we're here and who we're here with. Toyota. This is an awesome.

awesome setup. Listen, you're going to hear more from Toyota later in the show, but a lot of times when you get offered opportunities to partner with corporations, you're like, oh, that's cool. They got a cool product, and, you know, we're getting paid for this, but today's different because I drive a Toyota. I am a Toyota guy. I got an FJ62. You've been in my red FJC, the thing's sick, yeah? I've had an FJ cruiser. I've driven a forerunner. I drive a Toyota Tundra and once you drive a Toyota, I'm telling you, I'm not just saying this because I'm sitting here with this beautiful Tacoma behind me, but it drives better. We're going to Marchion Lynch this Tacoma around Radio Row.

We should March on Lynch this Toyota, dude. Getting the keys. But it just drives different. I've been in Chevys. I've been in Ford's. You know, like I just, I appreciate the way of Toyota drives. And the way it's explained to me is you could probably, the Toyota's going to outlast me, you know, that thing's going to be on the road.

That's not saying much, Chris. That's not saying much. Especially if not after a week like this. Exactly. So let's start there. You know, we get in on a Tuesday. Yeah. You know, I got my wife Meg with me.

I told you guys to scram. Beautiful, your lovely wife. My lovely wife, Meg. I said scram, guys, you got to find something to do. Me and Meg are going to dinner. I'm going to take it easy. I'm going to try to get seven, eight hours sleep because I think that's the key. When you get a place like this, you need a soft landing.

Yeah. You know, I got out, had a couple, uh, Hibiki highball. Ooh. Yeah. And, and, and, uh, and, and, uh, and some Casa Palto. Azul, some tequila, and had about three, four trips. He headed to bed. Yeah.

So what did you guys do last night? Had a few Moskell mules, and I was not going to lie, it was down. I was down early in bedding. Yeah. But currently, I am up, and I'm thinking about not gambling for the rest of the trip. That's not going to happen. That's not going to happen. He's not going to gamble anymore.

I don't play the tables. You know that. Yeah, I do. You do. Not great. How did you do last night? Yeah, so, but I was happy with my performance. I'm a classic night one hero.

You know when you have like a weekend wedding. You get in Friday night, welcome dinner. That's usually like where I'm most hype. So I was trying to kind of pump the brakes a little bit last night. I did not do well at the tables. I know. I haven't asked, but I'm pretty sure some of our producers, especially Matt, was probably awake this morning still playing poker.

He lost $500 last night. Yikes. So not a good start for Matt. That's like the equivalent of being on script and getting paid. pick sixth, your first night in Vegas. We got in last night. You know, for people out here,

I do inside the NFL, which is a fun show. I do it with Ojo Cinco, Chad Johnson, depending on what you want to call him. Channing Crowder, Ryan Clark, Jay Cutler, we had our show yesterday in Philly. We do it every week in Philly.

We took a team playing out here. It was awesome. Like, we don't really live like hot shots a lot. I missed that flight, Chris. I was in economy, baby. You had an opportunity, bro. You wanted to fly spirit. Yeah.

I'm just trying to live with the people, man. Well, listen, you did, and we were total elitist, and we had this big plane and piled on there, had a great time, landed, and a couple of the news items that I wanted to hit that were non-football this week, guys, and you tell me what you think about all these things. Oh, I know which one I want to talk about. The coyote? Yes. We got to talk about the coyote.

attack. Okay. And I just want to put my cards on the table. I think, I think a coyote, I think probably, you know, the question like how many fifth graders would it take to, you know, I think it probably take seven coyotes to take me down. The fact, seven? Seven, dude. Wow. What's the movie with Liam Neeson, the gray? You know what I'm talking about? Those are wolves, bro. Those are gray wolves, dude. Those are huge. He's taking on a whole pack, and that's Liam Neeson, bro. A coyote is like this big. It's like a domestic. dog. I think seven coyotes would So I think the real story,

the lead that we're burying here is that somebody on one of these teams couldn't handle a single coyote. And that is a concern. This is why people get bit for thinking like that. It's a dog. I feel like why are you even close enough to a coyote to

get bit? And then secondly, I feel like the person who got bit probably had the mindset of view like, oh, like this thing can't take it. No, I'm not going to pet a coyote, but if a coyote's going to get aggressive with me. Coyote's a wild animal. It definitely ran him down, bro.

It was endurance hunting. Here's what I want to know. Where was this individual that he got attacked by a coyote? I think there's a park where there's like coyotes like roaming out here, right? Yeah, but Lake Las Vegas? What was a player doing in Lake Las Vegas? That's what I want to know. That's like, you know, I know you got, you got bit by a coyote.

I know that's part of this story, but like, let me get the other half. Like, why were you walking around in Lake Las Vegas? The thing for me, Chris, is like, you know how it is. You're getting ready for the biggest game of your life. You got everyone in the training room getting their in their routine, getting their massages, their acupuncture, getting their ice and stem. And then you got someone walking in with a goddamn coyote bite. Like, trainer.

Yeah. What do you do? What do you do you do you do you do? Walks into the trainer room with a coyote bite? Do you have to get like rabies shots probably or something? I think you probably got to get rabies shots. And I kind of wonder how much that complicates this week for that player. But on the injury report, just listed Travis Kelsey, questionable.

Do we have a guess at who it might be? No idea. It's Cadarius Tony. I just was going to say that. I just, you took it out. Out of my mouth. Do you think Cadarius Tony was trying to feed the coyotes or something? Like he was late for a meeting.

He was at Lake Las Vegas. And he got attacked by a coyote. Just add that to a long list of things that have happened to that guy this year. Unofficial report. It was Canarius Tony. Or. Or. Yeah.

It was another. receiver and Cadarys totally might get called up. Might get called up. It makes a big play. Next man up. All right. So that's the thing about this week is like there's a lot of distractions. Coyote's not usually one of them. But like I'll tell you from playing in this game, and I've said this before in this podcast, it feels like you're in a fishbowl.

The minute you land, you go up to the hotel room. And my favorite three hours of the week during an NFL season was right when we got on the road, getting that quiet hotel room, lay down on the bed. don't even touch the remote, Mario Lopez, extra, extra for three hours, man. Three hours. I'm just studying my film scrolling through my phone, maybe laying on the bench. Extra, extra, extra. But like, that quiet time is not available to you when you play in the Super Bowl.

When you get to the Super Bowl, I got up to my room. I vividly remember my first year in New England when we went up to Houston to play the Super Bowl. Got up to my room and I could hear helicopters. I could hear fans outside. I could hear people in the hotel lobby. There was no quiet. And, you know, like, it is truly a fishbowl situation where you cannot get time to yourself.

Even when you're alone, you don't feel alone. There's a bunch of media, you know, engagements and, you know, there's Radio Row. And I think what the gravity of the situation really occurs to you when, you know, and I've already, just as a media member, met people from all over the world here today. This is the most popular sport in America, but it's also a growing sport globally. and when NFL Mexico or people from Japan or people from Germany are asking you questions. Brazil. The Eagles are playing in Brazil?

Brazil. Worldwide, baby. What are the chances we actually go to Brazil? Yo, I think high. We have to go. I think high. You guys are going to talk me and my wife into going to Brazil. I'll work on me back tonight.

Yeah, because like that's going to be, hey, babe, I'm going to South Palo. Good luck with the kids this week. Like, I don't think that's going to fly. You never know, man. You never know. So this week's tough. You know, like every day it's a different engagement. Even on Friday nights when I can remember trying to like watch film and Jim Schwartz came in Friday night.

And I think I'm alone, right? I finally got that moment to myself. And Jim's like, what are you doing, man? I'm like, what do you mean? I'm watching film. He's like, Jeffrey Lurie's got this party we all are supposed to go to. It's Friday night. We're in the Mall of America.

Nobody's been outside in a week because it's zero degrees. Everybody's sick that week. You know, guys are getting IVs. You could only really walk through the mall. couldn't go outside. But suffice to say, like, there's something every, every night and there's things that, like, are in the way of your preparation. This is what I was saying, Chris, is like, people don't understand. It's also week 21 for these guys. Yes. Like, the emotional drain. Physical drain. And the physical drain of the season. Like, you just feel so fried at the end of the

year physically. And then you try to do everything you can to get in your routine, you know, that you kind of established during the course of the season to play the best game of your career, you know, at the biggest stage, and there's so much shit going on in the Super Bowl. You can't even focus. I think that's why it favors the teams that have been there, and the teams that know the situation. And, like, I'll just say this. I just interviewed Trey McBride, who I think is an awesome player.

I love watching Trey play, tight end for the Cardinals. And we were talking about, you know, he's a younger guy. Like the Chiefs to him and his generation are like the Patriots to our generation. And I understand that people don't want to see those teams win. I like excellence. I love Patrick Mahomes. I'm a sucker. Patrick allows me to be a fan. Like I really am like a fan of what he does.

I'm in awe. So often as a media member, you get so caught up in the narratives, you get caught up in doing your content and trying to stay neutral. But you can be honest about Patrick Mahomes and be a fan and be in awe of him. So I root for the Chiefs. You know, like I love the Niners. I love those guys. There's some great players.

But I'm a Chiefs fan. They have been here repeatedly. And I said this all year. My legs retired from standing on the table for these guys. And I don't get a lot right, but when I get it right, I gloat. And I've been right about the Chiefs, you know, picked them through the playoffs. There were people that said, hey, they're not going to beat the Ravens. Hey, they're not going to go to Buffalo.

Mahomes has never won on the road. If you look at his road home splits in the NFL, they're not much different. He's just Patrick Mahomes. And I think what's also interesting is evaluating quarterbacks in today's day and edge. I think it's very unfair to a lot of quarterbacks to do. them because they are alive at the same time that Patrick Mahomes is like the Jordan thing. We have Charles Barkley on Inside the NFL yesterday. Because Jordan existed, a ton of guys just didn't get their rings.

And I think if you're a quarterback in the AFC right now, Josh Allen Lamar, I don't the first day after they beat by Mahomes in the playoffs go to why aren't they the guy. Good luck finding a guy that can beat Patrick Mahomes. You've got to get there a bunch and you've got to win one of them maybe. I mean, you've seen Joe Burrow do it. it's going to take time and it's going to take getting them at the right time. And so I feel for those quarterbacks, Patrick Mahomes is truly excellent. Okay.

How about the Dorito Hotel? We passed it here. It was incredible. It looks amazing. I don't know how I feel about it. I don't know how I feel about it. I just want to know what it looks like if you have a room. Inside.

Inside. Is it like extra tint or? Well, maybe some of the media members in here couldn't answer that question because that's where supposedly a lot of the hardworking, members of the media are put up in the Dorito hotel or they actually moved them to Excalibur. So if you work

your whole life hard enough to get a job at the Super Bowl with the media and get one of these passes, your reward is you get to stay in a giant Dorito or inside of a castle. Worst thing about it, to me, it's the worst flavor Dorito to... Yeah, what's up with that? Why could

we put cool ranch on that? Cool ranch. You got to put cool ranch up there. Anyways, I drove by that. That was incredible. There's always something to look at out here. There was a dude that climbed the sphere. And I thought this was great.

My brother, Kyle, is not here, had a great tweet. He likened it to the dude. It's one of my favorite Jim Carrey movies, and I can never remember the name of the movie. It's where he's living in a fake world. Truman Show. It's such an incredible movie. The scene where Jim's exiting the set of the Truman Show,

which is like a whole world, he likened it to the guy climbing the sphere. I don't know where that guy thought he was going. I don't know what kind of hallucinogens or lubricants he was on. But, like, my man was climbing the sphere. I mean, like, everybody's thought about climbing the sphere. I don't know. Raise your hand if you thought about climbing the sphere.

That guy actually went out and did it. So kudos to that guy. I'm sure he's in a holding cell right now. But definitely some things are worth it. I think the sphere looks incredible. I know you two's playing there. I'm not a huge YouTube guy. I know that ticket's tough to get.

You're a big. He got it. I'm going to the concert tonight, Chris. Are you? With or without you, baby. Oh, that's good. It's a beautiful day. Okay.

It's going to be a bloody Sunday for the Niners. I just want to update everybody. We've had our first LaGarrett Blunt sighting. Where is he? Oh, my God. He's next to you. Oh, God. Come on.

So the best thing about Nate is Nate played five, six years in the league. How many years? I played four. Four years in league. I like saying five or six. It's like adding height. Yeah, you know. So Nate was a great player in his own, right?

Got to league and the whole thing. Legerrett Blunt, who's a good friend of mine from the New England chapter of my life, and he's come down and played on our softball team. And we play rec league softball in Virginia. And these country dudes on the other teams like plumbers, mechanics, they're like, man, that's Laguerre Blunt. Like, this is unfair. They got all these NFL guys on these.

team. Now, none of us are that good, besides John Phillips, who played tight end for the Cowboys and hit the ball 300 feet. But when we go to the Super Bowl or anywhere, we went to waste management last year. Everybody thought that Nate was Lagaret Blunt. Nate took 50 to 100 pictures with people who tagged him as LaGarrett Blunt, and he would play along. He never shuts it down. It's just funny. And sometimes you don't want to disappoint people, so you just got to live in the moment and I'm not going to lie I just did a lap around here and I'm definitely booked for an interview tomorrow as Ligera Bunt that they definitely think it's oh that's terrific yeah we got to get that bad because I'm not going to be there and it's at 8 a.m. No you got to go in character

man it's at 8 a year so over the years of the Super Bowl I've met a lot of cool people I've like I've met some people that like bucket list you know people for me like Julius Pepper is one of my favorite players and getting a chance to sit down with him one night, have a drink, BS with him. He was so cool to me. Walter Jones that night too. Yeah, you play with Pep. Yeah. But, like, last year we met Hard Right Turn Kevin Fedderline at a party.

KFed was like integrated into our group. It was incredible. Actually, KFed was a very nice guy. Yeah, he was. And we really connected with KFED. But I guess the point is you never know who you're going to run into here. And I'm wondering if you guys have some. bucket list type people that you would fanboy for seeing this week.

Well, we know what Bo who Bo's fanboying over. He's got to meet Little Dickie. We just met Little Dickie, dude. We just met Little Dickie. We just met Little Dickie. It was a lot of person I was expecting to meet at the Super Bowl first day. He's so cool, man. He's so personable.

That was incredible, dude. What a guy. And he had a really cool sweater on. He's looking good, man. I want to meet. You know, I've met Shannon Sharp, but he's one of my favorite people in the media. it'd be cool to run into Shannon Sharp. I think he's killing it.

Nice. I'm trying to think who else would be. Look, I'm not going to lie. I didn't fanboy, but it was really cool to take the flight over here with Ocho Cinco. Oh, yeah, we were on the plane with Ocho. With all those guys. Sounds awesome. Crontery on that team.

Say it again? What do you think of the camaraderie on our team? What do you mean? Like, how are we doing as a team, like the vibes of our team? Oh, amazing. Yeah, we got good vibes. Oh, we got good vibes. Channing Crowder.

have great vibes too. Yeah. And it's cool to see the integration of you like with another media team. Yeah. And just the flight over here, just us integrated and everyone having a good time, it was fun. Yeah. It felt good. It felt good. Locker room, atmosphere, I guess

you can say. But it was definitely a great, great flight in and those guys are cool. I'm glad we got to meet them. It was a fun flight. We've only got a couple minutes more here in our open, but for folks at home, we're having a lot of fun. We're meeting some cool people. We're going to have great interviews all week. We got Trey McBride lined up today. He's

great. Already interviewed him. We've got Michael Pittman. Oh, yeah. We've got, we've got Jay Glazer. A number of people lined up this week. There's one player that I'm going to fanboy over that we're going to have here. I probably, can I say? Can I say? Yeah, we're going to get Luke Keekley. I love Luke Keekly, bro. He's one of my favorite players. He's going to be joining us. It's a some point this week. We've got a bunch of cool guests. So listen, I kind of thought about if I have more time setting up

like bingo, like Las Vegas bingo for us. Yeah. Or like, you know, kind of a scavenger hunt. You know, if you do climb the sphere, it's 10 points. Get bitten by a coyote. Get bit by a coyote. 30 points. Yeah. You know, like. Leave Vegas up.

Leave Vegas up. You win the game. So maybe we can work on something. like that today and get it to folks at home by the end of the show. Yeah, and everyone make sure you try your chance at our grid. You can win $5,000 for the day

for the lowest score. I'm a grid freak, dude. $25,000 for the lowest score of the week. So if you guys want to chance at that, make sure you head over here. I'm not good at everything. In fact, there's a lot of stuff that I suck at, but grids, I'm pretty decent

at. NFL grids is something I became addicted to over the summer. when I didn't have a fix of football. And then when football happened, I played a little bit less, but now I'm back on it. Grids is just basically it's nine grids, right? Or 12 grids. And you've got three teams on each corresponding axis,

and you have to pick a player that played at some point on both teams. And then there might be a special category, which is like 4,000-yard passer and that sort of thing. It's like a football sadooku. It's like football sidoku, and I will literally play for hours. And our leader in the clubhouse right now, Bo Allen. The Butter King.

Nice job, Butter King. I'm going to put this out there. He cheated. Matt helped him. But we can keep going. Wow. It's always hating, man. Hey, and one way, and there goes the man, the myth, the legend.

Again, I'm not going to docks him, but we know who we're talking about. L.D. With the threads, with the cashmere, with the alpaca. Let's go. That was a highlight for me, bro. I can fly home now, man. I'm happy. Yeah, that was cool.

Okay, guys, for people at home, one more time, a reminder, content is going to be coming at you. It's going to be like sudden change. When I used to play for the Rams, we'd sit on the defensive bench for like a minute and a half and then somebody would throw a pick or there'd be a fumble. So they'd say, sudden change, and we'd scramble to get our stuff and go out on the field.

It's the same thing for you guys this week. Is that Mark Ingram? Mark Ingram is the man, dude. If that's Mark Ingram, I love Mark Ingram. Mark Ingram? It's Mark I. There's people walking by all. we're going to call them out.

For you at home, content's going to be coming in in a sudden change format. So, you know, if you're a big, like, you know, I like my podcast out at 6 a.m. The whole thing. Throw that out the window this week. Roll with the punches with us. We're on West Coast time. We're going to be throwing a lot out at you. So one more time.

We're at the Greenlight Pod. Enjoy the show the rest of the day. We've got some great guests. And enjoy looking at this beautiful Tacoma. I just think this thing's profile is gorgeous. Look at the fender flare. on this thing. I don't know what I'm doing with that ARB rack, but I'm going to do something cool with it. We're signing the hood of this Tacoma with everybody that comes through here.

I think it's going to be awesome. I don't know what Toyota wants to do with it, but I will pay them top dollar to hang the hood of this Tacoma with all these signatures in my shop at home. Hey, come by. If you hear us out there and you want to get interviewed, come by and send the chair with us. We're going to be here all week. Shout out to Toyota. Welcome, welcome, welcome. I got my first guest of the weekend. No, it's not the weekend, but it feels like the weekend. I treated last night like the weekend.

But this guy's a highly trained athlete, so he's getting eight hours sleep. Trey McBride, one of my favorite young players. I mean that, man. I watch you play. I'm defensive end, but I appreciate some good tight end play, man. And although you guys torch my birds, I enjoyed watching you play, dude. Welcome to the set, and thanks for joining us. Yeah, thank you so much for having me.

This is really cool, and I'm honored to be here. Dude, it's honors all ours. And really, really cool. You're here with Wounded Warrior Project. We were talking, you know, off microphone a minute or two ago about the importance of working with vets and, like, not only the importance of helping vets, but what we get out of networking with veterans and the power of working with that population. So what's Wounded Warrior Project all about to you and how did you get? Yeah. So to me, it's just, it means a lot to me.

I have a lot of family members, my grandfather. my brother as well are in the military, and this is just important and near and dear to my heart. I've had family members and friends that have struggled with mental illness and things like that. So to be an advocate, to give back and to be partner with the wounded warrior, this is something very special to me and something I'm a huge advocate for. The guys, the producers know this when we climb Kilimanjaro every couple years with vets. I said, we need to get his big ass up the mountain, dude. He's from Colorado.

He can handle altitude. Here we go. And he likes working with vets, man. But I think what's really cool about it is, you know, what I was touching on earlier, a lot of the time you go in and you're like, how can we help veterans? But veterans can be a great help to us, man, in this country. And I think the mental makeup of those guys and gals when they get out, you know, coming home, they can be leaders. But they need a little help from us and support. And, you know, those people that climb the, climb Killy with us, they're like our biggest fundraisers when you get down.

And they, so I just think it's so amazing what you're doing. and, hey, learn more about Wounded Warrior Project. What's the website, by the way? Is it dot org? Yeah, yeah, dot org. Woundedworry.org. So let's talk about the game, man. And the way I want to talk about the game with you is you torch the 49ers.

I know you're going to be humble about it, but you absolutely torched from week 15. That's a really good defense. They run a lot of cover three. So when you got a good tight end, that helps. Talk to me about how you attack that. defense and why you were able to have so much success. Yeah, they're a very physical team, a defense that does so many things well and have talent all around the all around the board. So they're a team that you can't run the ball every play. You know, they have run-stopping guys.

They have a huge great defensive front and a team that you're not going to be running the ball all day on. So we knew we had to attack zones and we knew what we were going up against in cover three. And the game plan was to get open against cover three. And that's what they did. And that's what we did. So it was a lot of fun. Kyler gave me a lot of opportunity. And I I caught a lot of balls for him and he kept coming back to me. So a very special game, but that's a very tough and physical defense. What's it like seeing Fred Warner run around full speed, dude? Is he like your size or bigger?

Fred is a tremendous player, a guy whose motor goes and goes and goes and is all around the ball. Him and Greenlaw are, you know, some of the best linebackers in the game. And I love going against him twice a year. Did you get to base block Nick Bosa? Yeah, I've got both of those guys. And then if Nick Bosa's not on one side, you got Chase Young on the other side. either way you're going to be a tough you got a tough physical matchup and those guys are hard to block so let me ask you this with the you know like it feels like people my age and just fans in general

there's a point with every team when they get too good and people are tired of them winning and that's kind of where people are with the chiefs now i'm going to lay my cards on the table i'm pulling for the chiefs this week i don't know if there's a bunch of chiefs fans out here i like seeing greatness I love Patrick Mahomes. I get caught up in that thing. So I wonder, you growing up watching the Chiefs, being in high school, seeing the Chiefs, did it feel like probably how it felt for me watching the Patriots?

Yeah, I feel like, you know, the Chiefs are superior. They're a team that with Andy Reed and Patrick Mahomes at the helm, they've been winning and consistently winning every single year. I love watching them. They're constantly in the big game, and this is a lot of fun. So I'm super excited to see how they go against a really good 49ers defense. offense. And the thing I'm most excited about is the two tight ends that are matched up. These are two of the best tight ends in the league, and I'm really excited to see these two go head to head.

What do you think besides blocking like an offensive tackle, Kittle brings to the table in the past game? What makes him so good? I think just he's unselfish, and that offense is full of so many playmakers, and he's a guy who's explosive and waits for his opportunity. He's not going to do too much when it comes, but when his opportunity comes, he always seems to make a big play and do what's right for the team. And I see a little Kelsey in you, man. I really do. I mean, and I mean that obviously is a compliment.

It's when I talked to Earth and I was like, tell me about this tray kid. And he was like, he's so good with the ball in his hands. You know, it's when you get the ball in your hands, it's not just, you know, getting open, but it's the yak. It's all that stuff. But in zone, you talked about it versus the Niners, finding those soft spots in zone. And I think, especially with you having a quarterback like Kyler and Travis,

having a quarterback like Mahomes where these guys by time, scramble drill is almost, it's almost a sure thing at some point in a possession. You're going to be working the scramble drill. How does that relationship with you and Kyler develop and how fun has it been to do the nonverbal stuff? Yeah, Kyler's a tremendous athlete, a guy who's always going to make plays, a guy who's extending plays, and that's something we work on all the time. We're always trying to extend plays. We know with Kyler back there, he's going to be running around.

he's going to make things happen, and we've got to be able to get open for him. So we worked out all the time, and most of it's just having that chemistry, having that trust with him and having him believe that I'm going to be open, and when he throws me the ball, I'm going to come down with it. And the more I did that for him, the more he kept coming to me, and my opportunities just kept coming. So this year is the first year, obviously, you got a lot of time with him because of the injury last year and the whole thing.

Like, people, narratives get out, and, you know, like we think certain things about players. we hear, hey, Kyler, work ethic, that sort of thing. But when I saw him come back this year, I felt like he was on a mission, man. Talking to people in the building, getting a feel for where he was and where he is now, what have you seen from him this year that makes you think, hey, like, he's going to be one of those premier guys, and me and him are going to play together for five, seven years, hopefully. Yeah, I think it's just the work ethic. You see him in there every day.

You see him putting the work in. You see him grinding. And I think it's just him being there showing up, being a leader, and what he does off the field, what he does in the building, He's just a tremendous person, and the rap that he gets from the media isn't always the best. But, you know, I know the real collar. I know the guy that I'm with every day, and he's a tremendous person, a tremendous player, and I love spending time with him, and I hope that we can grow our career and play a long time together.

Yeah, I think it's a – I think it would be a fun connection to watch for a long time. Not a lot of defensive coaches in the NFL, right? Like, I think McDonald just got hired in Seattle, Dan Quinn in Washington, and obviously last year you guys went with John Gannon, and somebody who was in Philly, and I got done a little bit. Great guy, right? Yeah, phenomenal. But also, I think he surprised people this year.

Like, he was ready to coach at a high level. And I thought you guys took a lot of teams to the wire. Obviously, it's a rebuilding year. But what did you see from him and what makes him the guy for the job? I think just the leadership skills that he brought, what he came to do and what he's done for us. You know, he's set the culture, he's building the culture, he's set the standard. and he hasn't, you know, shine, you know, gone away from that. He's been tremendous.

He's a great leader and a guy that everyone wants to play for. He brings guys with him and gives us the plan and, you know, gives us the blueprint to go be successful and then we just got to go do it. He's been phenomenal as a head coach, and I think he's the right guy for the job. Is it nice to have a guy that you can be like, hey, you know, you talk to an offensive head coach, he's talking to you from one vantage point, but having that guy that can explain how to exploit a coverage a little bit differently or, you know, what you might expect to see from a defense. Like, he's the one calling defenses.

Does that help to have that guy? Yeah, absolutely. You know, to ask him questions to figure out what he's doing, what this guy's job responsibility is and how I can beat that guy. He's a guy that I would go to every week and ask him questions. You know, we're trying to attack this coverage. Where do I need to be to get open on this route? Things like that.

And he's a huge advocate and then someone who's always wanted to help. Let's talk about blocking, man, because it's something that I don't know if people realize this tight ends still do it. You know, is Bosa and Chase Young the toughest blocks that you've had to make on the edge this year? Because you see them twice a year? Or is there somebody else that you were like, damn, that guy is a player? So many good guys. I mean, every week you're going against an elite pass rusher.

But I think those are two of the best in the league. And I see them twice a year with Bosa and Chase Young. Those are phenomenal players and one of the hardest guys that you block. So I love the matchup every single year. And to see those guys twice a year, it's so much fun. How about what's the toughest block for you? Because I've played in a 4-Eye. You know, you're not going to block a 4-I.

I played in a 6. Okay, like, I know that's tough for me because you guys are head-up and the whole thing. And then I played in a 9 and the whole thing. What is the toughest block for you to make in the run game? I think it's just that backside cutoff, you know, when you're, you got a 6 technique, and they have a 2-way go. You have a 2-way go, and you just got to get the inside leverage, and you've got to rip and run that and take them down the 6-1.

The rip and run. Yeah, that's a tough block, but, you know, it's something that is a tight end. You've got to execute every once in a while. Because you don't want to be too out in front because you get back door. And then you don't want to be too far behind because then they're going to, it's that perfect, you know, where do you got to be? How do you got to get the block? And it's a tough, tough block. And the whole thing is just like you're running full speed, but he's trying to open that shoulder.

Yeah. And you're trying to keep that shoulder closed. No doubt, no doubt. Have you had an, like a welcome to the NFL moment, like a big hit or something or a drop or, or something where you were like, damn, this is. Yeah, I think, you know, like you said, playing against the 49ers, my rookie year, I caught a little crossing route over the middle, and Fred Warner had lit me up, and I just remember getting up, and I was like, oh, man, this is how these guys hit in this league,

and I got to, you know, bring it every time. So it was a great moment for me and something I'll remember. How about crowds? Because you're still young. You probably haven't played in every city, but there were a lot of way stadiums that I love playing. And back when I was in the NFC West, Candlestick Park was. still there. Yeah. I love playing in Seattle. I think planting in Phoenix is awesome. That grass is great. Right. The setup's awesome. But have you had a favorite stadium or city that you've played in so far?

I think what comes to mind right now is when we went up to Philly, that was such a cool hostile environment. And to have that win, you know, with Jonathan Gannon, you know, everyone, you know, wasn't too happy. He left, you know, Philly. And we have a bunch of Philly guys to go to Philly and to win that game. New Year's, that was a huge and hostile environment. for sure. All right, so let's talk about something you and I were talking about off mic a little bit. Like I think you have a very unique story. I think it's pretty cool. You got two moms, right? I think you're maybe the first NFL player with that setup. And I just wonder, you've spoken about it before. Like, how have your teammates kind of, you know, had conversations with you and gotten comfortable with that if they weren't, if they, you know, hadn't been, hadn't heard anything like that. for like has it been a challenge at any point like with the way people perceive that and then also like

what are the perks because I love my mom if I had two moms I think it's the best thing of the world I think just the teams will open me with welcome arms they've been great everyone in this league's been awesome and I think it's just something that that needs to be normalized it's something that isn't you know different something that nowadays is becoming a lot more normal so something I think is very special something that I'm very proud of but for me it's very cool you know my parents are great they They've been huge advocates for me. They've been huge supporters, and I know no different. This is all I've known my whole life, and this is very special to me.

That's so cool, man. I mean, it's just cool. NFL locker room. I always say it's one of the coolest workplaces in America because everybody comes from different, you know, places and neighborhoods and background. But we talk to each other. Yeah. You know, we sit at the lunch table. We have tough conversation.

We explain things to each other, where we come from. Yeah. I just think it's very cool, man. No doubt. And you spend all day with those guys, so you get to know them very well. and those guys are very welcoming and things like that, so it's very special to me. Who's somebody? This is the last question for you, Trey.

Who's somebody or a couple of people that you'd be really fanboy in to meet this week? Oh, man. There's a, you know, I've met a lot of these guys, but I saw a Shannon Sharp walking around and, you know, being a tight end. Yeah, and then being from Colorado, you know, he's been awesome. So I think meeting him would be pretty cool. That'd be awesome. And hopefully joining the ranks of great tight ends in our game, Trey McBride. I think you're a great player, man.

It's going to be fun to watch it. Thank you. Thanks for coming by. And great work with the Wounded Warrior Project. Wounded Warrior Project.org. That's right, baby. Okay, check it out and check out the work Tray's doing. Yeah, thank you very much, man.

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You know him from, you know, when he knows something first. He's not afraid to tell you when he knew something first. But he's good at him. I don't tell you what it is half the time. I'm just like, oh, I got something. But I know Jay, like, man, probably 20 years. I think I met you where you were like 11. Yeah.

Right? Yeah, something like that. Yeah, something like that. So Jay, obviously, NFL on Fox, we got a long history with him putting up with my dad. My dad putting up with Jay. You guys outed me this year, which is, are we a lot of curse in your podcast? I think you can curse. Bullshit.

You outed me this year. It's bullshit. What happened? I think it was Father's Day, where you talked about how I played a joke on how he. Oh, that was so funny, dude. And people got mad at my dad. People got mad of me. No, not your dad.

People were mad at my dad, too. He gave away the ticket? Yeah, this is a real quick story to show you what kind of guy my dad is. Jay had these lotto tickets that were like mega millions or something. It was $25,000 instant lottery ticket, but it's fake. $25,000. And it's a fake ticket. So the design was that my dad was going to think he got a fake ticket.

And he was going to be like, oh, cool, I won. Yeah. And then. And I gave everybody else real ones, and nobody else is in on it, except for our. assistant, Bill Richards' assistant, who was our producer, she was like, hey, I feel like I won the lottery by working with you all. It's his Christmas gift. So here's everybody, here's your Christmas gift. So everybody had real, you know, tickets except for Howie, who had a $25,000

over scratch-off. So he wins the thing, and his face, I guess, was like, almost mortified that he won, and he decides he's like, he walks over to. No, he goes, I think, I think I just won $25,000. And Strayan, who was in on it with me, he said, you got to be kidding me. You got to be kidding. Oh, my gosh. And he turns to our assistant, thank God was in on it. It doesn't know this and says to her, Merry Christmas. It hands her the $25,000.

It's like, no. Fake, man. But thank God she was in on it. Thank God. That was the part that got lost for people because people were like, do you guys just tormented this woman because she thought she wouldn't. 25 grand. Jay is he's always up to something.

Especially with your dad. The jokes I play in your dad, like I send him, he's like he's my muse when it comes to practical jokes. Like I would find out from I think the same assistant when Howie would fly back to Arizona. And right when I know he's sitting in his seat, I would send him like really

nasty, raunchy videos and you can't turn the sound off. Yeah. Yeah. I used to send those to coaches. I used to send my coaches in Philly and New England. Yeah. Yeah, but I said it to your dad. And he'd be like, what happens if this is the last thing

the plane goes down? And it's the last thing my kid's him. Like, not my problem, bro. Not my problem. And there was the bumper stickers. I put some racy bumper stickers on his car. Yep. Some bumper stickers also. Yep. Yep. He drives around for a couple days. These really, really, really, really raunchy

bumper stickers on his car. It's amazing. He's never killed me. It really is. No, it's because he loves you. Deep down, as much he might get pissed off at you. He loves you. I love him too. Jay, we're in a room full of strangers. A lot of people we don't know, people passing by. And one thing I appreciate about you, man, is you always talk about what's going on up here. You know, like, I think that's a really cool thing. I think, you know, with a lot more talk about mental health, with NFL players and like,

where the was supposed to be the alphas? Like, you know, you talk about putting your life jacket on first and when the plane depressurized you've got to put your mask on first. Like, I think, most people don't think about it that way you know we're caught up as athletes and people leading our families or leading teams that we we don't we don't think about us and you got to take care of your problems shout out to dave stevens who's my dog who's just rolling by man steve uh but so but i think chris where you guys you here's the thing though in order to get on your levels a pro athlete you got to be crazy going in yeah okay you can't not have because the sacrifice the amount, like, you've beaten out millions and millions and millions to get to this level.

And a locker room helps with the crazy, but, man, it's still there, right? And what happens when that locker room is gone or we don't have it, I always understood my issues like I always fought. But I felt I belonged in a cage. So, you know, I knew I had issues going in. A lot of you guys kind of look at like, oh, we've got it together. Nobody in the NFL has it together. So you don't know you don't have it together. You have it together in a way that.

other people don't. You have a skill set that other people don't have, right? But, you know, like, you also don't have some of the, I don't know, like, you're used to playing a different game than people entering the corporate world or whatever. Like, you're just not cut out for it. And you can get there if you work your butt off. And, you know, like, but that transition is really hard for guys. The one thing I wanted to talk to you about under the, you know, the kind of banner of this whole mental health stuff is, I didn't know this. I guess I could have guessed it, but you have ADHD. Yeah. And I guess you just started

talking about it a little bit more. Well, I started, look, I wrote a book two years ago called them Breakable. Yeah. How I term my depression, anxiety, and a motivation, and you can too. And it was about ADHD, ADHD, depression, anxiety, bipolar. I mean, you name it, I've got it.

And I, you know, the things that really helped me through it. And here's the thing. I wanted to give it words. The only way we're going to get through this together is give it words, but I'm not you teach. I'm not clergy. I'm not a doctor.

I'm not a therapist. I'm just a dude who's messed up, who's learning to be good with his messed up in this. And the more we can have people like that talk about it, then we can lean into each other and start talking. And that's what the locker room is great for, right? Yeah. You guys could all talk about this shit in a locker room,

and you're afraid to outside of it, and that's where we kind of get caught up. So I just wanted to give it words years ago. And for me, too, like, I'm clinical. I always have it. So depression, anxiety, and it's, and look, I know my life is great. It is.

My life is. I'm sitting here with my nephew, who's now crushing it here. And, you know. But it's all relative. Dad is my best friend. And my life is great. But between my ears, sucks. And it's an everyday fucking thing.

I wake up and I'm like, I don't know who I'm getting. I got to fight a lot of things to get myself out of bed. And for me, I've tried over 30 antidepressants, anti-anxieties that haven't worked. And I finally found something that did work called Kelbury, which is ADHD. drug. And look, I was one of the first adults ever diagnosed with adult ADD on the East Coast of America in 1989.

And back then, they put me on, it's my experience, they put me on Ritalin and that wasn't great for me with my depression, the peaks and valleys. And they put me on like an anti-seizure medicine or something like that to offset the valleys. And then they put me on an adderol after that, and it's kind of, man,

just my brain chemistry wasn't great. That's a scary part. So I got off everything and I finally found this thing called Elbury, which I take it at night, so it's not a stimulant. And it actually calms me down, gets the roommates in my head, talk nicely at each other, and wakes me up the next day in a much easier place. That's the hard part, the morning for me. Yeah, it's.

Because, you know, I don't know if we talked about this. I've had ADHD my whole life. And I always thought about it like it's just hyperactivity or just like. Our brain works too fast. Like I'm always working. You can't turn my brain off. The guys that know me, they're working for me. Like, yo, it's 2 a.m.

Stop texting me notes. Like there's no need to be working right now. That's how we harness it. And it's not always healthy. But for me, what was illuminating over the last two years is I was dealing with some stuff. You know, I've dealt with stuff my whole life. You know, everybody deals with stuff. Depression, anxiety, whatever.

Talked about it. Yep. But you don't realize that it's all part of the same packaging if you have ADHD. You know, it's not as simple as like, oh, you're a multitasker, but you can't focus or, you know, you're this or you're that. Like, there's a bunch of stuff rolling it in. to that diagnosis. When I had to do too, because again, like I was told I was learning disabled growing up. And growing up in a Jersey Shore being learning disabled is not good mix, man.

Right? So I was like, I started kind of shifting narrative like, well, I'm not learning disabled. I just don't learn the way you teach. Right. Right? You got to reframe it. Yeah, I got to show. And then I took it one step further.

How has it become my superpower? I may not be able to listen to a three-minute speech, but man, I could do six things at once, just like you. You can build things. We could build things and do a million things at the same time. It can be a superpower. If you harness it and you own it and you realize when you said something earlier, you said, I'm messed up. I would push back.

I know you don't mean this, but I don't think you're messed up. I think you're just, you have your own challenges and you're unique. Oh, I'm fucked up. We both love that. You are fucked up. It has nothing to do with the diagnosis of ADA. So I just think like it's just talking about it, like normalizing it, having this conversation. It's cool that I know now you have it.

So I can hit you up and be like, man, I'm struggling with this thing. Perfect. Like that's what it's about. And, you know, some people will be like, oh, why don't people just leave this stuff to themselves? I'm not interested. But there's somebody out there who's interested. Having Lane Johnson as my close friend with everything that he's talked about with mental health, he's the reason that I decided to do something about my diagnosis of ADHD.

That's not his deal. But he empowered me and made me feel normal enough about it to actually, like, approach a solution. And perfect example, why we got to talk about it. Lane lived with me for five months in the off season when I tried. trained him. He lived with me and my son Sammy. Yeah. He saw all that I struggle with stuff, but never, ever, ever did he say a word about his

until the sky fell. Right? Like, man, Lane, imagine if you could have talked about it back then. Just talk, yeah, just talk as soon as you can. You wouldn't have gotten to that place. And here I was, and he knew I was, you know, going through stuff. And now the fact that we can and when we do have bad days, we call

each other, we check on each other. When I have a bad day now. Listen, I used to do what my bad days at Viking and alcohol and fighting. And now I will call four people and say, man, today just freaking sucks. The beast got out of the box and I'll call four people

and tell them. And I'll call four other friends, not tell them, but just check up on them. Yeah. To see how they're doing. That's it. It's the social connection to checking on somebody. So do me a favor. Being of service. Add me to the list. Make me five, bro. I love you. I'm glad we, you know, we talk about this stuff. And thanks for coming by.

I mean, like, it's not just football. We're going to some great conversations about life, about real issues here in front of this gorgeous Tacoma. I love it, man. Do I get this? It's therapy for me to go fast in a Toyota. Thank you, Christopher. Yeah, bro, it's yours. It's yours.

I'm going to put a phone book. See, he's got to finish with a short joke. Yeah, I got to take a shot at my heart. He's avenging his dad. Because he's going to do it to me. We love Jay Glazer. I love Toyota. Thanks for coming by, bro.

Thank you, brother. Always. Thanks, bro. This is good. We get Michael Pittman Jr. Fresh. This is his first. interview today. I love watching this dude play. I also think it's really cool having a dad in the

league. My dad played a long time. Your dad played a long time. They made some plays out there. But now, you know, I have my career. It's your turn. I just wonder what it was like for you growing up. I mean, because I know I got some of the maybe the same experiences. Yeah. Growing up, like, it's like funny because I didn't really think of football as like being something that's like, special because I was just kind of like born into that and I really didn't appreciate everything that he did until I was probably in like high school because because like I mean like I was thinking hey my dad played 11 years like so what you know what I'm saying but now like just like looking back on it I mean that's like a serious deal right so um just like looking

back on it now like he just like he just armed me with so much knowledge that really helped me get where I'm at right now. So was it, so wasn't in high school where you kind of had that moment or where you realized, yo, my dad was actually that guy. He was good player. Yeah. It was good. I asked Chris this question all the time and I just wonder for guys who do have.

Yeah, was there a moment? Was there a game or was it like you said it was high school, but like what was it that struck you? It was just the fact that so just, just. like realizing the type of wear and tear that like football has like on you and just like realizing that he played probably like one of the most violent the violent spots in and him being able to last for like 11 years which is crazy like I think the average lifespan for like a running back is like three like just like or something like that so like just like right there like I like realize that

that he like put in like just like all of his like training all of his like training all of is like nutrition, like habits. I mean, like, he eats the worst tasting things I've ever seen. Like, he eats tilapia with, like, nothing on it, and he's eating asparagus, like, raw, like, just like, it was terrible. Yeah. Well, that's the thing. I mean, you struck me when you said it was normal to you because that was a thing.

Like, my dad and my mom made it normal. You know, like, I can remember being a kid and going to the Pro Bowl with my dad. and not even realizing I was meeting Barry Sanders. You know what I mean? Or Bo Jackson hanging out in my dad's kitchen with him. Like on a Tuesday night, they're just kicking back. And I don't realize the gravity of that. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Which is cool, but I think it keeps you humble. Absolutely. You know, because, like, when you go home and you sit at the table with your dad, you're not the only person in your family that's played a high level in the NFL, right? And when I go home, my dad's got a gold jacket. My brother was a great player. So I can't think my shit doesn't stink, so to speak.

So I think it can keep you grounded, but the pressure of it. Did you feel that pressure? Because sometimes it's like, whatever you do is not good enough. Somebody already did it. Yeah. My dad did a great job of not making us feel like we had to play football. He never forced us into it. he kind of let us choose and we just followed like in his footsteps he just set a great like standard

and it's funny because we never did like force like workouts and like he never took us to like the gym and like was like hey like you guys are going to do this this and that like we just kind of followed in his footsteps it wasn't like st brown and his jacked oh no no no nothing like that i'm a hundred equivade his they their dad had him in there doing curl at like 12. But that's the thing. Like with my dad and I don't know your pops, but it sounds like kind of the same situation where it's like my dad was like, you don't have to do what I do. You know, in fact, they almost didn't want me to play. Yeah. Because of the wear and tear and because the violence of it. You know, my parents, my mom knows what it's like walking my dad to the ER with,

you know, a cast on his hand where he can barely stand up from the pain and he just got done taking pills or shooting up to get through the game and, you know, the surgeries. And, you know, the surgeries and how hard it was to be present when you get home. Like you got a family now. Absolutely. And there's a lot. I think we can learn from like what it was like growing up and try to just tailor it to how we raise our kids. But my dad never pushed me in that direction. Absolutely. And I think that's cool because, but he did say once you choose any direct, you've got to work your ass off. And it sounds like you got the same type of, you know, set up. Yeah. Yeah. And like he just told us that whatever it is, like we're just going to do it.

and just like don't stop. And one thing that he always told us is like just like show up. Show up. And what that means is just you have to be the same guy every single day. And you can really apply that to life too. You apply that to being like a dad. You can apply that to work and really just anything, really. The consistency, man.

You know, because so many people dream about the NFL, they think about the highs. Yeah. But being an NFL player and carving out a career where you get to be a vet is about, like you said, it's showing up. And it's doing the little things and the tough stuff that's not glamorous. You know, and people that want to take shortcuts, they don't last long. So I love watching you play. I think you're going to play a long time. And I guess my first question about the week would be there's one player on the San Francisco 49ers I want to ask you about.

You're not going to be able to guess who it is. I think Sam Darnold is. is a good quarterback. I think if Sam Darnold gets another shot somewhere, you know how, like, Baker played this year? Yeah. If McVeigh didn't give him a shot last year, I don't know if Baker has a year he had.

Absolutely. And I think Sam going to San Francisco, a couple spots where he got some burn and that sort of thing, like, I think he could, there would be another chapter for him. What do you think about Sam? You think he still got a shot? You play with him at USC?

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I think that, I think that the NFL is all about opportunity like in like fit and like fit and like there's different systems that work for different players. And I think Sam has every single, every single attribute of a winning quarterback. I mean, I mean that guy like is like dialed, right? I mean, like he's a quiet, confident guy. He has all of the like armed talent, has all of the play, the play extending qualities. He just needs another shot.

And when he gets that shot, I think he's going to do something great with it. But you said it as context. It's like having the right people around you is having the right coordinator. I think there are very few quarterbacks in the league that are unaffected by the situation around them. There's only three, four of those guys, right? And everybody else is in a different category. I think you guys have a great setup, man. Shane, they miss him in Philly.

Yeah. We had him on the show last week. Oh, yeah? Yeah, we asked him about you. He loves you. like he just he seems like a no BS guy but the kind of guy that that can also get on your level and like be a dude you know is that accurate like what's his personality like yeah so so Shane is a southern California guy so which is like me but um he is an all business like no BS guy to when

he's locked in I mean he's fired up and I feel like the way that the NFL's trending like to the younger offensive-minded coaches, and he really fits that bill with his creativity and all of the motions and everything that goes into our offense and using his guys. I think that he does a great job, and I think he's going to be with Indy for a long time. And I can't say enough great things. He's just such like a great coach. He seems that way. I mean, me and Nate watch him every week and watch the Colts. It seems like a fun team to be a part of. For sure. And then like the thing that always strikes me about y'all,

and I know you added downs this year, and like he's a different body type, but you guys are big, man. Like you and Pierce and then the tight ends. The tight ends, Woods, and he's Virginia guy. And Moe Alley Cox, who's actually, he's a VCU guy, right?

VCU, basketball player. Some dudes from the home state. But what do you think that poses for defense is like, specifically for fans, what do they not think about when they see you guys are all big, but what does that really mean for opposing defenses? Yeah, I mean, I think it makes it easier for our like quarterbacks because you got a bigger target, which got a bigger range of catch. And then, like I feel like we're well diversified, like with Josh and like Alec and like some

of our other guys is like Josh's thing is he's like a middle of the field assassin that also gets outside and can make plays too, but he's really like our option route guy, and that man is impossible to cover. I mean, he's in there shifting, shifting guys up. I said, I just think we have a great balance because we got size, which means that we can block, right, which is a very big part of just like our past game because we got to set up run and then like that allows like our past game. and just having Anthony's dynamic ability where he can run and pass,

I feel like the best part about our team is going to be our RPO game. So that could be dangerous. So we all know as players like iron sharpens iron, and you playing a tight-in position, how is it going against someone like Zaire Franklin every day in practice and getting that type of match up with a guy who's doing really well on that side of the ball and you getting the chance to battle against him daily. Yeah, so I'll get inside and I'll get to run a couple routes on him.

But honestly, Z, you can't cover me. Never could. I didn't know. And there are lots of practice reps that I think would approve that. And I think that you're great. Love you, bro. But sorry, like, just like, you can't cover me. No, listen, that dude had a great year.

Oh, oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Just Z is great, but receivers on, like, backers, I mean, like, I should kill him, like, every single time, like, or else I'm bad. And one of the only the only reason why I ask that, too, Z. Z has on podcast. Great, great podcast. Yes. Great, great podcast. Yes.

In the trenches. I'm definitely a fair. I got to check it out. So, this is going to be, like, one of his clips, too. So, you're welcome. Yeah, we got these guys. Yeah. Content.

That's awesome. He had a great year. I was super excited for him. And, I guess, when it comes to the Colts and playing in that division, seeing C.N. C.J. Strout pop up. Like, it's like, damn, dude.

You just had to drop an elite quarterback in the division, but you guys got an exciting young quarterback in Richardson and Minchu played great this year. Big fans of Gardner. Like, after that third, fourth game where you're like, dude, I know you're the biggest, baddest dude on the field, but like, you've got to get down,

bro. You all kind of, as a group, like, hey, young, young buck, you got to look out for yourself. So I actually went up to him. It was after the first Houston game where he had kind of slowed up and he got hit. And then that's when he got hurt. And I just told him, like, you can't take hits because, like, our whole franchise, like, is betting on you. Yes.

So, like, I just went to him and told him that he just can't take those. And, like, we, like, joke around because I'm one of the leaders, like, on our team of taking hits. So, like, I'm trying to take less hits, too. But, like, I just have something in me that. thinks that I can break that next tackle or get that last yard. So we always. That's your job, but his job is like, you need you the next place so I can take that hit for a big chunk, man.

Exactly. I want to ask you about, like, listen, defenders, it's a hard job. I know it was like a big topic was the Kazee hit and you, like it was so, it's so violent, man. And you got, you receivers, man. I know some people want to make receivers sound like pre-Madonnas and that sort of thing, but I don't want to do what y'all do. I was perfectly comfortable with wrestling with a bunch of 340-pound dudes.

Like, the scary thing to me is I don't have control. And I'm going over the middle and I got to catch this ball. You came out of that thing. You saw the tape. Yeah. How did you feel about it? Yeah. You know, like, because it's tough.

So I can walk you through it. So our play was I basically had just like a crossing route. So ball snaps. I'm running. and I don't see anybody. So, like, I'm like, hey, like, I'm wide open. I'm about to catch his ball and I'm about to score, right? So the ball's thrown a little bit forward.

So I dive and I catch it and I just wake up. Like, just like, I don't remember anything. Like, I just wake up and, like, everybody is, like, looking down on me. You woke up, like, a couple seconds later. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so, like, I was laying there.

And then I just got up and everybody's trying to tell me to, like, lay down. And, like, no, no, no. It's just like, I'm getting up right now. And yeah, I mean, that was basically all of it. I mean, it's such a violent game. And, like, do I think that he meant to cause that much harm? No. Like, just like, I think he's just trying to make a play.

Now, do I wish that he didn't hit me like that? Yes. Right. Yes. But it's football and, like, it's violent. And I know what I signed up for. But obviously, I don't want anybody to take those type of hits. and I definitely don't want to take that hit again.

It's tough because, like, you know, I'm just being honest. Like, I'm sitting here and I'm like, damn, I don't want you taking those hits. I don't want anybody taking those hits. For a defender, it's tough because, like, I'm watching that ball and you're making this incredible play. And, you know, people say go through the ball. The ball's right in front of your face. So it's, like, you know, like, and I think our game has a lot to grapple with there because I don't look at it like there's this villain out there.

I think he's trying to make a play. And a lot like you put it, like, you'd rather him not hit you like that. It's just hard to operate for you guys out there and for them. And I wonder, is that like the first big, big pro hit you took that you kind of had? Well, I've taken a lot of big hits. So I actually took another big hit, the Panthers game. And he went through my, like, he went through my like side shoulder, which actually was a clean hit, but they still flagged him for it.

Yeah. So that one I thought that they shouldn't have flagged it. Like I thought that was a clean hit. Sometimes you get up and you're like, hey, yeah, yeah, no, like, he just, like, got me good. And, like, did it feel good? No, but I thought it was a clean hit. Now, the 15 yards helped us out. So, like, I'm not going to complain about it.

Yeah. But really, like, I thought it was a clean hit. The end of the season, man, it was a crazy fun run to watch because, you know, there's people counting you out. Yeah. I think you guys had a lot going for you and with a coach like that and a backup quarterback like that. Like you're a dangerous team. And if you win that game, you could slide in. I felt like it.

I kept on our show calling it a playoff game. Yes. I said, like, the Colts went to the playoffs this year because that's how I feel. You guys played in a game that was win or go home. Exactly. And I think that can be really valuable for a team, even if you don't win it. What can you take from that experience and what can your guys take from that experience? Yeah, I mean, I mean, we basically got that, like, playoff feel where it was a plate,

in-game, right? So, and people always talk about that last play call. I personally think that that was a great call. I think that that play was there. It's just, we just didn't execute it. Something with the Lions on fourth and three. Exactly, like, which, like, just like which happens. I mean, that part, like, is on us.

And we just have to live with that and we got to be better. But I think a lot of the, like, younger guys, because it was my, well, it wasn't my second playoff game because we didn't make the playoffs, but it was my second feeling playoff game. And just being able to get those young guys that, like, experience of, hey, like, it's win or, like, nothing, right? So even though we didn't win that game, I think it was good for Anthony to be in that atmosphere,

even though he didn't play, obviously, and good experience for all of our younger guys. Yeah, because you'll be back, man. Absolutely. Like, even if you're sitting in the meeting room, going through prep, you know the temperature picks up and it's a different thing. So when it comes to the AFC South, is there one team that the Colts seem to hate more than the others? Well, like, I don't want to use the word hate.

Yeah, like that's a strong word. But there's definitely, I feel like the Titans play as tough every single time no matter what. Yeah. They're kind of the like, because like I don't want to give them like this title, but like they're like, the bruiser in the AFC South. Because they always play hard, they always hit hard. And then we have Jacksonville who

in Jacksonville, we just can't seem to figure it out. Right. Isn't that wild? And I don't know what it is. Like, I've suggested that we got to get down there on like Wednesday and practice out there, like something like that. But that's not how it works. I think the dudes would appreciate that. Yeah. Yeah. The weather's nice there. Yeah. So, like, I don't know what it is,

but they play us hard every. single time and their offense like is great. They're just so like explosive and everything that they do. Like I would probably say those two teams, but then you add C.J. Stroud now who is, I mean,

he's elite. I mean, like in his first year, I mean, he absolutely set it on fire. He's actually another Southern California guy. It'd be hard to dislike him. Yeah. You know, like across the sideline, it's easier if you're like, man, this guy's a jerk or something. But like, this dude doesn't. everything right exactly and i appreciate his game the same way it seems like you do so it's actually

funny because i actually met him when he was in high school yeah when he was going to ohio state so he was training with tj hooshmanzada like which is who i train with and okay and it's funny because after we lost i saw one of his instagram post and i was just so mad still just like just like you know like just like dumb stuff and like and like just like we're like friends too and like i just looked at it like i was like i'm gonna scroll past it like and not like his picture uh-huh yeah you get kind of yeah it's hard and you have no idea at that point that you're gonna see him for probably a decade yeah i mean i mean like i didn't know because like at this point like he was just a young kid going to ohio state like in a stacked room yeah and he sets it on fire yeah and and and is still

setting it on fire so we got some USC fans here by the way oh yes sir so i know baby fight on brother So here's my question. I need two predictions from you. Yes. Number one, what do you think happens with Caleb? And what do you think when you watch Caleb? Yes. And does he really remind you my homes?

I think sometimes it can be a little easy to just be, yeah, he's my homes. But I think he's amazing to watch. Yeah, I mean, I think he definitely goes first. I could see teams trading up to get him, so I don't know what team it's going to be. I know that Cliff Kingsbury just got the job. up at Washington, right? And there's some strong ties there. So I don't know what's going to happen, but I, but I do know that he is going to go first. And I think it's easy to make that comparison because of the similarities because, because like they kind, well, I will like, I won't say that

they look the same, but like they got the same characteristics. I see Russ too. Yeah, yeah. And like there is like a mix of both. They both have incredible armed, talent. But they, I mean, like, it's almost like a spot on comparison. Like now, you know, like now, you know, now that I'm like thinking it through is, it was like they are similar, like in the way that they, the way that they create like after the play. But I think that's because he watches Pat. Yeah. And kind of models his game after because they can do so many incredible things. Like, like I think it was, like I think it was two or three years. years ago when Pat was falling back and he slings a pass now, it didn't get completed,

but like just watching him this far from hitting turf and he slings it like 20 yards. Like I was like, oh my gosh. Like he's in the matrix. Unreal, right? Same thing watching Caleb sometimes. Yeah. All right. So then the last one.

Score prediction this weekend. Oh, that's so tough. I'll say this. I think the 49ers are going to win, but it's so hard to bet against Pat. But I just think the 49ers are a complete team. defense offense. And it's really hard to beat a good offense that has a good defense with it, right? And that's not saying that like the chiefs don't too, but you just look at the 49ers

roster, the guys they have. Like I'm just like, that's a defense. Bro, they got a bunch of 99 Madden guys. Yeah, like guys like don't want to really see. So the score prediction, let's, I'm going to keep it close. I'm going to say 24 to 21 49ers. Okay, I got 27, 21 Chiefs. Michael Pittman Jr. is on the other side,

and I tend to feel a little nervous about my pick now because this guy knows these teams well. So Michael Pittman, Jr., great player. Another great guest over here by our beautiful Tacoma. He signed the hood. It's official. Right there. Dude, thank you so much for coming by, and good luck.

Thank you so much. Yeah, bro.