Green Light with Chris Long - Jim Trotter! on Brian Flores & Unequal Head Coaching Opportunities. SB Commercial Pitches & Washington Commanders.
Episode Date: February 4, 2022(2:47) - Historical Hello and Layup Line by Committee. (9:44) - Jim Trotter on Brian Flores' Lawsuit Against the NFL, Rooney Rule, NFL Hiring Practices, Eric Bieniemy and Sherm Lewis and Changes That... Could Come. (39:30) - Washington Announces Commanders Nickname, Super Bowl Uniform Matchups and the Outcome of Groundhog Day's Impact on the Super Bowl. (53:16) - Chris and Macon Pitch Super Bowl Commercial Ideas. (1:21:20) - Questions from Around the World. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to the Greenlight Podcast.
Oh, boy.
We've got a conversation with Jim Trotter today.
He's going to talk about Brian Flores' lawsuit against the NFL,
hiring practices of the league,
comparisons of Eric B. Enemy and Shirm Lewis,
Rooney Rule and changes that the league could make.
After Jim, Macon and Chris are going to talk
Washington's new nickname,
Super Bowl uniforms,
and a Groundhog Day stat that's going to impact your Super Bowl betting.
We're also going to do some questions from around the world,
and the most fun thing we did today,
Chris and Macon have a couple Super Bowl commercial ideas
that they're going to pitch.
Enjoy the show, enjoy the weekend.
Love is love.
Make, here's what we got on the show today.
I'm going to break it down for you real quick.
We're going to go, hello, layup line.
We're going to get to Jim Trotter.
We're going to talk about the very serious topic
at hand this week with Brian Flores
in the lawsuit, the class action suit.
Those allegations, the Rooney Rule,
shortcomings there.
just have a conversation about this thing
because get used to the topic
like we've talked about it before
but now it's bust wide open
so Jim Trotter from NFL Network
a guy that I worked with
during the tail end of my career
and really enjoyed getting to know
so really sharp guy
he'll be on in a few
and then we're going to have a lot of fun
on the back half of the show I think
we're going to pitch some Super Bowl ads
that's right we'll talk
Washington commanders
yep that's right
little Super Bowl
and I think Reed
and the boys have some stuff lined up for us.
It's gonna be fun.
Yeah, so serious and then fun.
Yeah.
We can do both.
Yeah, that's what sets this show apart.
Like, you tell me, you listen to a funny podcast, easy.
Yeah.
You tell me you listen to a serious podcast, easy.
Easy.
You tell me you listen to a funny and serious podcast and one?
Never heard of such a thing.
I'd say they don't exist.
Welcome.
Here we are.
Welcome to the Greenlight Pod.
Welcome to the future.
Crypto.com.
I got a crypto.com ad for you in the back half.
Yeah.
For the first time in my hello career,
I want to preempt it by saying I'm worried about,
I'm worried about it,
about saying hello.
You are?
I know I've been struggling of late with the head cold.
It's gone.
Yeah, you're in the other room like yodeling earlier, I thought.
Yeah.
Here we go.
You were just trying to say hello.
This is an,
an historic hello in that I'm not confident in it.
Okay.
But I'm going to lock in, try to be a pro.
Victorville, California.
Hello!
Yes.
Back on the board.
Boom.
Let's go.
Back on the board.
Let's go.
Victorville.
Victorville, which I've driven through.
Victorville's like a desert town, man.
When you think about California, you don't think about the desert.
There's a fuck ton of desert in that state.
Mm-hmm.
A ton.
One time, I had to go to Tucson.
I rented a Mercedes drop top and drove 100 miles an hour down that road.
It's past the statute of limitation for speeding.
Actually, it was like 120.
and I drove to Tucson.
I didn't go the whole way 120.
I started going 120 and then I realized I was too scared to be a race car driver.
But I did that in the desert right near Victorville.
I'll always remember that.
Victorville, northeast of L.A., due north of San Diego, home of Jim Trotter.
Jim Trotter.
We should figure out a layup line song because I couldn't figure one out myself.
So I think the mechanism here when we don't have anything and you're really excited about this
we both get five shuffles.
Love it.
Five shuffles and we got to pick one.
Now is this a scroll like phone roulette?
There's a button for this.
Okay.
But where do you start is my question, I guess, with the shuffle.
You just start.
Like, you know, you see Top Right on Spotify.
Uh-huh.
That'll go to a random one.
Yeah, that green button.
Yep.
Shuffle.
Born to run, Bruce Springsteen.
Okay.
Airliner by James Town Revival.
I'm bad by LL Cool J.
Magita by My Morning Jacket.
Yeah, MMJ.
It's a great day to be alive.
Travis Tritt.
I got a rice cooking in the microwave.
That song used to slap in the 90s.
Sure did.
He goes heavy on the eye shadow.
He goes heavy on the white nationalism too.
Yeah.
Thank you.
That's right.
It's exactly right.
It's a real shame because looking at his picture,
you could not convince me he's a,
a mean guy, but maybe he is.
Look at that guy. Look at that hair from the 90s.
Look at that lettuce. Okay, so
it's my turn. Do you have one in mind
that will go to the final two?
I have to nominate one of that.
You nominate one. I nominate one. I read the sides.
Okay. I'm going to think
of my nomination as we go through your five.
Durando, thank you God.
What a job.
Devin the dude.
Slow blues. Instrumental.
clan.
I haven't heard of one of them.
Childish Gambino.
Something on your mind.
King Curtis.
I got so much
white dad music. I just ended up with the
most fire shuffle sequence of all
time. I'm going to
nominate something on your mind.
King Curtis.
I nominate airliner, James Town
revival. I know what Reid's going to go with.
We don't know. Reed. You want
sax or do you want... I was impressed that
Macon played the live version of
airliner. So we go with the live version?
but after hearing your 10 seconds,
we are going with your selection.
Okay, King Curtis.
Reed loves Sacks.
He loves Sacks.
I support the call.
Jim Trotter for about half an hour.
We're going to talk about some real stuff,
some stuff that currently you should be paying attention to the NFL.
You will feel more filled in on the topic after you listen,
guaranteed, and then we'll have some fun on the back half.
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crazy week. How are you?
I think like a lot of people, man,
just trying to keep my head above water
and get through all of this.
You know, it's funny, Chris, I said to somebody,
look, I've been covering this league for over two decades.
I can't remember ever going into
the two weeks preceding the Super Bowl
and just so much going on in this league, man.
It's mind-numbing, you know?
Yeah, and you kind of wonder, like,
with obviously Brian Flores
news is going to be the elephant in the room.
Like, that's not going to wash off in two weeks,
and it shouldn't, and this is probably going to go deep in the offseason.
Like, what kind of shadowed is this cast over the game?
And do you feel like there is momentum that people are going to be talking about
not supporting this event from an NFL standpoint?
Truthfully, no. I don't see that.
I think football fans are like Pavlov's dogs.
When the whistle blows, they come running.
And this is a league, a Teflon League that has shown very little sticks to it.
So, look, Chris, as you know, the only time that we have seen
real change in this league as it relates to diversity or anything else is either when there is
the threat of litigation or the threat of sponsors pulling out. Those are the only two things
that I've ever seen lead to substantive change in the NFL. And so I am wildly curious as to how
this lawsuit that Brian Flores has filed is going to play out and what change it ultimately will
lead to. But as to the game, no, man. On February,
13th, 70 plus million will be watching, if not more, and the game will go on and everyone will
celebrate and that will be that.
So you said something, you know, I mean, we said this yesterday.
I think these owners are bulletproof.
It's incredible, like the things that can get away with, you use the word Teflon.
I mean, we've seen it up close and personal.
So I don't know.
Do you feel like with this kind of unprecedented turn of events and somebody that I know personally
Brian Flores and I'm not surprised, but I'm incredibly proud to know him.
Do you think that something like this makes people more hopeful or less hopeful because it
exposes how shitty, you know, the state of affairs is with regards to the Rooney Rule?
Well, first of all, I'm one of these people who has never focused on the Rooney Rule.
I think that's like, it's like one of these shining objects that people always talk about and
point to, but don't really understand what the purpose of it was or what the purpose.
purpose is. Rooney Rule was implemented, first off, back in the early 2000s, again, after the threat
of litigation from the late Johnny Cochran and Cyrus Mary, who were going to sue the NFL over
discrimination involving its hiring practices as it relates to head coaches. So the Rooney Rule comes in and
says that you have to interview at least one minority candidate at that time. We now know it's two
external minority candidates. But the whole point of it was just to slow down the process.
and to make owners take time to consider someone other than who they might be considering,
particularly a person of color.
So I don't focus on that.
For me, it's more about, as Tony Dunchie has said to me,
the owners simply don't know how to hire head coaches.
These are people who don't come from football backgrounds.
They're not brought up in football culture.
And as one general manager said to me,
it would be the equivalent of one of these owners if they owned a,
software company asking me a football guy to come in and lead a search for a chief engineer
or something like that in a field that they know nothing about. And so when I talk about this
as it relates to owners, Tony Dungey said that the league needs to have a class for owners
to learn how to hire coaches. And initially, I thought he was being facetious. But now as I watch
as this process goes forward, I'm not so sure he's wrong because owners are so interested in
winning the press conference that they lose focus of what it takes to win games. And that's the
issue here for me because what they do is they say, okay, this is the hot candidate. If we hire
this person and it doesn't work out, we've got cover because we can say that's who everybody
said we should hire. So we did. And in two years when it doesn't work, we'll get rid of
that person and we'll do it all over again and say, who is it that everyone's saying should be
hired and we'll hire that person and we've got cover again because this was the hot candidate,
the top candidate. And it's just like a perpetual cycle here that's just so frustrating, you know,
and I'm going to say this, and I'll get in trouble for this, but okay, we've had what,
two black general managers hired this year. Neither one of them hired a person of color as a head coach.
Now, I'm going to sit here and say, I don't know what authority they had to actually make the hire.
But all I know is, is that if we as blacks aren't hiring our own, how the hell can we sit here and continue to criticize white people for not hiring us?
And that bothers me.
I mean, I'm just being 100% honest here.
That bothers me to know in because we know as blacks, there are people capable out there, blacks capable out there to do these jobs and who are qualified to do these jobs.
And yet when we are put in a position of power to hire, we don't do it.
Why is that?
Do you think that attacking the pipeline, like through which we feed these head coaching vacancies,
you know, like there are certain positions I was explaining to people listening to the pod,
position groups, coaching groups like quarterback coaches, O-line coaches,
line coaches, linebacker coaches on defense, that it seems almost intentional that black coaches
have been siphoned away from these pipelines?
Do you think that there's any hope in attacking those pipelines?
Because I feel like, you know, even a GM of color who's making his first decision,
maybe he's looking at the pool and saying like, fuck, there's just not enough representation in the pool.
I feel like can we attack that and get some sort of positive movement?
Well, look, I'm one of those people who thinks the pool, the pipeline excuse is total bullshit.
Yeah.
And that's just me.
because again, it gets back to define for me what a head coach is.
Tell me what you are looking for in a head coach.
And so I make the argument, people say, well, what's the solution?
Well, first of all, why do blinds have to come up with a solution to a problem they didn't create?
Right.
But having said that, having said that, if I could offer some advice, I would say this.
Owners need to have a clear vision of what it is they believe a head coach is.
Tell me the character traits.
Tell me what you are looking for.
So, for instance, before you ever interview anyone, sit down and make a list, like a pros and cons.
Do you want a head coach who is older or younger, someone with experience or no experience,
someone who is a delegator, someone who's hands on, someone who's a motivator or someone who sits back,
more of the CEO type, or, you know, the guy who you don't care how people view him publicly?
Make a list of all of those things.
And then as you go through the interview process, once it is over and you,
You've made your hire.
Now go back to that list and then tell me how many boxes does this person that you hired actually check?
And to me, that's one way of at least trying to be objective in the process and saying we did have a vision.
We did have a plan.
We followed through on it as opposed to we got in an interview and we got wild by somebody or the media told us or an agent told us or a consultant told us this is who we should be hired.
At least there's some objectivity in that that to me helps with the process, the transparency
of the process as opposed to what's going on now.
So where do you think we are with this now that B-Flo has levied these allegations,
as filed suit?
It is class action.
Are we going to have more guys stepping up and talking?
It sucks to say black coaches have to solve this problem.
But it seems like there's an opportunity here for people to share.
their stories. Hugh Jackson alluded to a culture in Cleveland, which is unsurprisingly,
not designed for winning. No explicit like bribery or anything like that. Obviously,
he talked about Stephen Ross in Miami, B. Flo did. Do you think we'll get more of these accounts?
You know, Chris, it's a great question. It's one I've been asking the last few days of minority
coaches that I know asking if they're going to join the suit. And the best answer I can give you
is I don't know because they don't know at this point. Many of them have told me they're still
sifting through the lawsuit trying to figure out what's next. Because they know if they do sign up on
it, there is the possibility that they've just jeopardized their career. Right. And so they've got to
consider all of that. And that's a major step. So I don't judge anyone on what they do. I do know that
for substantive change to happen throughout the course of history, it usually requires sacrifice.
So who is willing to sacrifice in this moment?
And again, I'm not judging anyone.
You do whatever you feel is best for you.
But here's what I will say to you.
And it's something that I'm considering writing, you know, as I talk to these men,
is that I ask the question of whether or not just as you did,
are other coaches going to join on to this?
And ultimately, what I believe is the answer will determine whether or not this is simply a moment,
that garner's headlines, or whether this is a moment that produces substantive change.
Which way is it going to go?
It's too early to tell.
But I do know that I'm not sure there will be a moment like this again, because again,
it takes a coach saying, I am willing to sacrifice my career to try and make change.
And Brian Flores has done that.
I'm curious about the potential sacrificing, the jeopardizing of a career.
That sounds to me like you would be very surprised if B-Flow were still a candidate in Houston or New Orleans or anywhere else.
And I think it looked bad if he didn't get the job in Houston, like bad.
And you think this, this suit hurts his prospects right now and moving forward potentially.
No, no, no.
I'm not saying that it hurts his prospects right now.
I'm saying the possibility is there that it could.
I don't know.
Well, you may not know after this lawsuit came out,
me being a wise ass, I tweeted out,
look for a black head coach,
the first black head coach in this hiring cycle
to be hired in 3-2-1.
Because my feeling was the league was going to turn around
and say, you know what,
or one of these owners was going to say,
we're going to give ourselves some covered
and we're going to hire a black head coach right now
to take some of this focus off of this.
Now it hasn't happened yet.
Will it happen? I don't know.
But all I'm saying is that the possibility exists
that you could be sacrificing your career.
I just think B-Flow has been so good, so early in his coaching career.
It would be so obvious.
Why?
I mean, like there are people, and I don't buy this argument because I played Colin,
and we've gone here.
I won't go back to it, but Colin was blackballed.
Like, there are people that can make bad faith arguments and some ignorant arguments
that, like, he was blackballed because he wasn't very good at the time.
Brian Flores is a fucking hell of a football coach
and was winning games in Miami
in a division with Bill Belichick and Josh Allen
and of course the Jets.
I don't think you could deny
what would be going on here
if we hire Josh McCown
in Houston and somebody else in New Orleans
like some hot shot coordinator.
I just don't think they could deny it this time.
We're about to hire Kevin O'Connell in Minnesota.
Right.
And I know Kevin, he's a good guy and he's a good coach,
but are you objectively going to sit here
and tell me that he is more qualified and capable or even proven to be a head coach than Brian
Flores?
No.
Or even Jim Caldwell?
No.
I mean, I could go down the list of names.
Chris, this is the thing.
It is just so exhausting.
Like, people always say to me, owners should be able to hire who they want.
They should be able to hire the most qualified.
And I say to them, I agree with you.
Yeah.
A hundred percent.
But if we are talking about the most qualified and if we are talking about the most capable,
if we were to do blind resumes.
And I was to take Jim Caldwell's resume or Eric B. Enemy's resume and to put it up over here and to have Kevin O'Connell's resume or Nick Siriani's resume or whoever and put it up over here.
Objectively, there is no way you can tell me that these resumes over here are more qualified than these over here.
So if we're doing it that way, then what are we talking about here?
We're not hiring the most qualified or the most capable.
There's something else at play, objectively.
Yeah.
So I'm just saying I agree with everyone who says the most qualified should be hired,
but that's not what's happening here.
And even I go back to Zach Taylor, and I was one of those people when he was hired,
and I'm not ashamed to say it, I said he didn't deserve that job.
He was not the most qualified.
But what the Bengals told me privately was,
we know he's not ready, but we believe in two or three years he will be ready,
and we would rather get in on him now than get into a bidding war for him in two or three years.
And it has worked out in their favor, in part because they got an incredible quarterback two years ago.
But why is it that Zach Taylor gets that sort of privilege or opportunity,
whereas other young black coaches who we can talk about?
about names who have been identified as people that are going to be successful head coaches,
or at least you believe they're going to be successful head coaches, they don't get that
opportunity. They're not afforded that. So there's so many things here that don't balance out,
but people want to focus where they want to focus. Now, let me say this. In terms of B-Flo's lawsuit,
we can focus on the discrimination in terms of hiring practices. But in talking to black coaches,
one of the things that stood out to them even more than that was this allegation of being paid to tank.
Yes.
Because all we hear from the league is integrity of the game, integrity of the game.
Right.
And if you have an owner who is a part owner in a gambling site, which reportedly Stephen Ross at least was a few years ago,
and he is now telling his coach, in essence, bribing him to lose games, does that not equal game fixing?
Is it bad bad. Is it that a federal crime?
Yeah, it's bad, bad, bad on a league level.
Now, you and I use the word Teflon.
I say they're bulletproof.
Like, I don't think it's happened before.
The guy in Carolina kind of got forced out, but stepped down, I think, on his own, on his own volition or whatever it was, didn't he?
Jerry Richardson.
Here's what one of his fellow owners told me.
Yeah.
He stepped down because he was older.
Yeah.
He was not in great health, and he just didn't want to deal with the bullshit.
Yeah.
That's what one of his owners.
So they've never actually had the balls to force a guy out who's doing the wrong stuff.
And I wonder here, because there's another element.
I mean, there's fixing games, which is as a player that makes me upset.
Okay, like, you know, you and I talked about late last year in Philly.
You know, there was a decision made in the 25th hour of that season that might have affected a draft slot.
It sounds like Stephen Ross was like, hey, $100,000 handouts, my man at the yacht.
Like, every time we lose a game, and that's part of a bigger master.
plan. So if I were to deduce that it was part of a bigger master plan, then that calls into question
the motivation of hiring Brian Flores. And it makes me feel like maybe they use Brian Flores, which
makes me upset on another account. So the Venn diagram crossover is pretty fucking big. It's not quite a
circle, but there's a lot of fixing. There's racism, in my opinion. I mean, it calls into question,
like, what did they do with David Cully in Houston? It's, it's just, yeah, yeah. Well, it's
humiliation. It's humiliating
to think that Brian Flores
was called in to possibly shovel
shit and actually made
chicken salad and still
got fired for it. You know, it's like
it's wild to me. And guess what would have
happened if he had gone 2 and 14?
He would have got fired and somebody else would have had
the fucking quarterback. This is
what makes me angry here too, Chris, from a
media standpoint. It's how
quickly we are willing to
just take what someone says anonymously
and run with it and put it out
there. When Brian Flores got fired, all of a sudden it came out, he's difficult to work with.
He's this. He's that. And instead of the media saying, some of my reporter friends saying,
let me go investigate it and find out whether or not it's true, they just put it out there.
And to me, particularly, and again, I'm biased. I don't hold back or hide that. But when you do
that to a black man, to me, it's so easy and it's so lazy and it's so insulting and it's so damaging.
because it sticks, that there is this narrative that we are the angry black men and we can't be worked with and whatnot.
When all Brian Flores was doing, based on coaches I have talked to in that building, was trying to do the right thing and have told me that he is the most honest, the most direct, the most stand-up guy that they have ever worked with.
Yeah.
Okay.
So when I hear that, and now on the other hand, I've got media friends out here saying, well, he's, you know,
he was difficult to work with.
Was he difficult to work with because he was doing the right thing?
Right.
It's probably a good thing that he was difficult to work with.
If he was easy to work with, that would make him, you know, like part of a fucking, you know, a tanking thing.
And have you identified any other times in league history?
You're like, I suspect tanking.
I mean, there's an attempt here.
You had Hugh kind of talk about a culture.
I was on really bad teams, one that moved to L.A., you know, like it felt like sometimes,
we weren't trying to win. I'm not saying that we weren't trying to win, but do you think this has
happened a lot before? Look, I'd be naive to say that it hasn't, but I do know this. I've never
met with a player who has told me he intentionally tried to lose a game. Or he wanted to lose a
game. So that's the only purview that I can come to this from. I don't know what goes on in upstairs
in these offices, these front offices and with owners and whatnot.
So I would not want to accuse anyone of anything.
All I do know is that every player I've ever talked to in my career
covering this league has tried to win every game that he has participated in.
Yeah, no. And I think tanking can be done almost by just turning a dial a little bit
upstairs.
Like without anybody knowing there's so much it goes into a football season, you can do that so
covertly. You can't do that in basketball. It's harder to do that in baseball.
but like in football they can just adjust that dial spend spend less you know bring in older veterans
you know guys that can't play anymore whatever um right do little things personal yeah it's
we need to see what we've got with the young guys yep it's yeah i mean a lot of times yeah so
whether it's the older guy or the younger guy or whatever i mean it can be done i was going to ask
you know with ross and discovery and all this stuff like what would it take to get to discovery
for this case as a whole.
Like, do we need more evidence
somewhere in New York or Denver?
Like, you know, do we have enough in Miami?
I hear Cameron Wolf says there's a witness.
What would it take to go to Discovery?
And Discovery is what we want here, yeah?
Yeah, absolutely.
I have to believe that's what Brian Flores and his team wants.
And really, that's the only time that the NFL acts
is to keep things from getting to Discovery.
So from my standpoint, I've been told that there are other people in the Dolphins organization
who were aware of this taking place, who claimed that this has taken place.
One coach told me he heard about it some time ago, but it was not from Brian Flores.
It was from someone else.
And this is before the lawsuit came out.
So I would assume that these people are going to have to be deposed.
and at that point, if these allegations are made and supported by these people, then I believe I'm not a lawyer,
but I would believe at that point then that it would be open to discovery.
And now, even in the case of the discrimination element, you've got these text messages from Bill Belichick.
Well, I have to believe that that is, you know, that's grounds for discovery to say, well, then we need to see the other phones that are involved in this.
Yeah, who texted Bill.
That's what I want to know.
who texted Bill and like there's so much I want to know here and discovery is not limited to is it
limited to this this case we'll get more gruden emails we get more you know information on cap on you know
some of the back and forth between ownership like what what are the limitations of discovery again me
not being an attorney I can't answer that I think um based on what little law or knowledge of the law
that I have it would be up to the judge to determine the scope of discovery yeah but um as we found out
in the Washington football team investigation, there can be a lot of ancillary damage.
Yeah.
And, man, at least from my, you know, viewpoint, novice viewpoint, sure seems like there's enough here
for discovery to get to it.
This would be one of the biggest.
I mean, it's already one of the biggest sports stories, whether people know it or not,
but potentially it hinges on a few factors.
All right.
But like, if this goes to discovery, I think this is going to be one of the biggest sports
stories of the past 20 years.
I mean, like,
but here's the thing, Chris, and then this is
what's fascinating to me is
we all know whenever it gets to that point,
the NFL has always been successful in
paying off people to settle, right?
And there is that
saying that everybody has a price.
I'm curious,
does Brian Flores have a price?
I don't think he does.
That's going to be the key point here.
To be honest with you, back during the
say-out lawsuit.
Yeah.
When I was told by a family member, we won't settle.
We want to know who knew what and when.
Yeah.
And I just said, okay.
And I sat back and what happened?
They settled.
Right.
So I'm not trying to be...
Right.
No, I mean, like, listen, the cynic in me says that, yeah, like, money can do almost anything.
But at the same time, B-Flow levied this claim on behalf of, like, all black.
coaches and like and and he's opened the door for other people to come with him I feel like by design
it's not a personal decision for him anymore and that's a big burden to bear but I think he's the
type of guy who can bear that burden I'm incredibly I don't know like I'm not a black coach I'm you know
I'm not somebody who's worked in the NFL for a long time and seeing this stuff and scratch their
head and shook their head like seeing my peers go through this but I am hopeful I like as
somebody who wants the right thing to happen I do I was excited
that B-Flow did this. It sucks that we're here, but I was like, fuck yeah. Let's go. Like,
go nuclear. I tweeted it at the time that I saw it. It's about damn time that someone did this.
But I'll say that this is what people, I think, the average fan doesn't really understand
about why Brian Flores would do this. Like, I'm going to have a story soon that includes this
passage from a retired coach who happens to be black, and he will be on the record. And he talks
about I quit the game because of exactly what Brian Flores is talking about.
This is someone who played in college, coached some of the best players ever at his position,
became an offensive coordinator, was not the play caller, but was the run game coordinator,
ran all of the offensive meetings, everything else, and could not get an interview for a head
coaching job, and said, when you bust your ass for your adult life to try and get to the highest
levels of this league and know that you can't get there, not because you're not qualified or capable,
but simply because you are black, it messes with you. And so for his own mental health,
he said, I'm done. And he walked away. And he said, the good thing for me is I was good with my
money. I put it away so I could do that, unlike some people who have to stay because they have
to support their family or whatever. And what he said to me, because he spent out a few years now,
And what he said to me is that, Jim, you have to understand, this shit stays with you.
Even when you leave the game, it stays with you.
And I don't think most fans really understand that.
And it's one of the reasons I fight so hard for this, because believe me, I don't want to be out talking about this stuff all the time.
But these men can't talk about it publicly for fear of reprisal.
And so I just feel now at this point in my career, I don't know how many years I have left.
But however many years I have left, I want to use whatever platform.
my have to give a voice to these men so that hopefully there won't be other coaches who do what
this coach did and say, you know what? I love the game so much, but the game is killing me
mentally, emotionally. And so I've got to get away from it. It's just, it's, man, it just breaks
my heart when I hear these stories because it's just not right. You know, it's not right.
It's not right. These guys work too hard. And, you know, it's almost irrelevant to me that the league
is made up of 70% African-American players.
It's about the ability of the coach,
and I've had some amazing, amazing coaches of color,
some of my favorite coaches.
And it does really suck to hear your perspective on this
and also those coaches.
Based on what you know, Jim,
the story you just referenced,
are we living through another one of those right now
and Eric Bien of me?
I've written it.
Before last year's Super Bowl,
I wrote a story about Byron left for,
and Eric B. Enemy, both offensive coordinators in the Super Bowl, both men of color, both highly
respected and both incredibly capable. And Byron Lefich at that time didn't get one interview
for a head coaching job during that cycle. Eric B. Enemy, I believe, was on his eighth interview
and obviously had not been hired. So I posted this, I pinned this tweet to my page this year
during this hiring cycle saying that sadly,
I believe that Eric B. Enemy is becoming this generation,
Sherman Lewis.
And there's a lot of people, younger fans,
who don't know who Sherman Lewis was.
Sherman Lewis was an officer coordinator with the Green Bay Packers
back during the Super Bowl years under Mike Holmgren.
Underneath him on that staff,
you had position coaches all the way down to quality control assistance,
and five of them, I believe,
who went on to become head coaches, all white,
and he didn't get an interview for one,
or he didn't get a head coaching job.
So you had Andy Reed, who was a tight-ins coach.
You had Mike Sherman.
You had Steve Mariucci.
You had Marty Morningwig.
And you even had John Gruden, who was a quality of control guy.
All of these guys went on to become head coaches.
And Sherm Lewis, despite being the office coordinator for a Super Bowl winning team,
did not get an opportunity.
And to me, this is simply history repeating itself.
again with Eric B. Enemy, who has all of the qualifications to have an opportunity to be a head coach.
And I'm not even saying be successful, but to succeed or fail on his own merits.
And he can't even get that opportunity. Why? Especially when, and we don't have to go on. You guys
know the story. The two coordinators before him both got opportunities. So what's the difference?
Why does Doug Peterson get the opportunity? Why does Matt Nagy get the opportunity? Why does Eric B.
enemy not get the opportunity. Seems to be only one common thread through all of this.
Yeah, and you mentioned Byrd Lefwich in the Super Bowl, and this year we've got a coordinator
in the Super Bowl who's basically issuing for a job. So, you know, it's unfortunate. I hope that
we see some change. And Jim, thank you so much, as always, for joining us and shedding some light
on a very serious topic. I always appreciate being in here. I appreciate the discussion.
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So a lot going on for the league.
Obviously, this is going to develop for a long time.
So we will be on top of it.
We're not going to talk about it every day,
but as things pop up, we will shed more light where we can.
Washington has a bunch of other shit going on.
Is it relevant to talk about that right now
on the heels of what we just talked about with Jim at all?
Yeah, there was some testimony today in Washington, D.C.,
with some pretty serious allegations against Dan Snyder
that I'm sure we'll be hearing more about
in the days and weeks to come.
But we did hear a lot this week about the Washington commanders.
Yeah, what'd you think?
Oh, you go first.
I really don't mind the W itself.
I like the W as a logo.
We're there.
Now, the uniforms, there's just, there's no consistency from one to the other.
Even the numbers are different teams.
Yeah.
They're totally different teams, all three of them.
I want a TV screen to pop up and be able to know who's playing right away.
I have an army doing a, you know, like a, you know, a black and yellow thing for some big game.
I have, you know, Iowa State.
The Iowa State with the big commanders across.
the breast. That's my favorite one though, honestly. I know I'm going to get killed for that.
Oh dear. Yeah, I'm going to get killed for that. Well, rank them, one, two, three. And then the third is like
the bucks and the falcons having a baby and making a uniform.
Golly day. I think that that white one's the best. Wow.
I guess. I guess. Continue. Don't let me, yeah, don't let me. I'm not looking
at a, at a, at a pant right now. I really don't like that red one because it looks like, it looks like
XFL to me. Why is Commander so large?
It looks like a communist font.
That's another thing they walked into.
Commanders. You noted the length of the
20 characters. 20 characters. Yeah.
Jacksonville, Jaguars 19.
Saw that in the office. Boom, viral tweet. Did you like or a retweet?
No, I was just perusing before bed.
Okay. So, yeah, but sorry.
I should have. You know your tweet that really should have gone viral?
What was the Tom Brady tweet?
Oh, yeah. His final snap. Final snap of his career was on the TB12.
How about that?
Matt Gay, good from 30 yards.
Hey, so, Reed, do you like these uniforms, Matt, Taylor?
I'm indifferent on those.
I agree they could have been done a lot better,
and they could have, as you saw,
there was a video of the commander's name leaked
before the night before.
It was actually announced.
Has anybody?
Homeboy was in a chopper.
Who was?
Homeboy.
He was flying in a chopper and then zoomed in.
to the team store.
It was like a traffic shopper.
Is that how it for real?
For real, for real, for real.
Yeah.
Well, that and Joe Thysman.
Joe Thysman.
Has anybody done this joke yet, Matt?
The joke, uh, you know, it's not the worst thing he's broke.
Yeah, it's like the second biggest break of his career.
Ah.
That was a really dark joke from Matt.
That's the other days.
Wasn't planning on saying it on the air, but there we go.
Well, it was there.
And I do actually like the black jersey.
Yeah, I like the black one too.
I don't like the W on the front of the helmet, but I like the jersey itself.
Now, is the rest of that helmet blank or does it have digits on it?
I think that.
I don't like where that W is either on the front of that helmet.
Why stick it there on that one and have different helmets for the other ones?
Yeah, dude, it's like they...
It's weird.
It's they mix and match uniforms here.
It's also like, you remember how people used to put the L on their forehead for a loser?
Are they like a winner or something?
Okay.
And it's also strange that about a month ago, Joe Biden,
and named his new dog commander.
Oh, this is such a woke mob thing.
This is the woke mob did this.
The commies, right?
The commies, named after Joe Biden's dog.
This team's going to be stalling in the red zone.
I got to disagree.
I think the W logo is just not creative and totally uninspiring.
I read that tweet of yours.
And all you came up with was a different font.
I think they took a step backwards.
I mean, I know we're picking these uniforms apart, like in a vacuum,
but I think they took a step backwards.
Why are the numerals different?
Like the numerals on that black uni, I can get down with.
They're a little bit different.
They have the lines going through the center.
But then they do something else with the white uniform.
They have a little gradient.
Hot take, the most acceptable one to me is the red one.
That is.
You can wear that with white pants?
I think where they screwed that one up is that commanders across the chest.
I think that would look dope running along.
the side of the pant leg oh cleveland brown style and do not do yeah come on taylor you
taylor don't tell that to don't tell that to your date in a couple weeks that's something you keep to
yourself what's a name that you like the word leg stripe yeah that is that's king that's the type of kink
that like you you don't even type into the into the browser you don't even want google to know you have that
kink look at how long that is now on uh i didn't even have the benefit of this when i was
counting up the number of letters and washington commanders but it's it's so very long it's a very
long word uh and i don't like kind of contriving um a logo like a family crest they got a fucking
family crest like it's old navy 1936 you know like on a hoodie that's but that looks older
than it actually is yeah it's bad i don't like that take that off the shoulder so all in
I'm giving these uniforms like a C minus.
C minus is right.
Yeah, I think it's a C minus.
I mean, maybe the black,
the black uniforms are going to look awesome.
Maybe I'll be wowed when they get on the field,
but it just feels like they were like,
let's do a black uniform and they didn't do anything else.
When you see the W as on a standalone logo,
I think it looks pretty good.
It even has sort of that old,
I like it, dude.
But on the helmet,
it looks a little different.
It doesn't pop as much.
It's not supposed to be on your fucking forehead.
You know what I mean?
Even the side one doesn't look quite right.
They went backwards.
And I don't mean from the bad word to hear.
They went from the football team,
which people were really into that fit the brand of their fan.
You know, like, hey, we're so self-loathing.
We don't even have a football team name.
Like, that's fun.
20-something-year-old white guys living in the D.C. area can drink to that every Sunday.
Galaxy brain, football team is probably what they should have stuck with.
They should have stuck with it.
It's unforgettable.
It's unique.
they'll always be the team to me.
I mean, this looks like the Cardinals.
Look at this picture of Chase Young's side pro on the white jersey.
It looks kind of like the Cardinals.
It's the Arizona Cardinals with some mustard.
Yeah, they're going for a stripe and what they got is a pipe.
It actually doesn't look that bad.
There's just no, what's the cohesiveness here?
Okay, there's no cohesiveness.
So C minus D plus.
Even cohesion.
Yeah, cohesion.
Either one would work.
No, yeah, both words.
Are they both words?
Yeah, cohesiveness.
Okay, good.
Okay.
All right, so.
Well, hold on.
Just one last thing.
What about the scary Terry mannequin that's doing the robot dance?
Did you like that?
Let me see that.
Oh, I thought he had a football and he was like doing,
he was completing a football move.
No, he's dancing?
Yeah, a little robot dance.
Clever by half, Dan Snyder.
Oh, that's fucking.
And what's on?
Yeah, that black, that black, that black uni might be the best.
I think, I don't know what you're talking about with Iowa State.
I like, I'm just partial to ketchup and mustard on a football uniform.
I don't think there's one I dislike.
There are numbers on the side of that black helmet, by the way.
Okay.
Super Bowl uniforms came out, right?
What do we think?
Given what we're working with, A plus.
It's going to look weird because there are, they're two redesigned unies.
We're not talking Steelers, Raiders, Cowboys, Packers.
Yep, no.
But no, the Bingles, Orange,
helmet black jersey white pants i think that's the best that they can do and the the rams blue white yellow
for lack of better descriptors it it works it looks good it looks like the old rams it is what it is
we averted um red gate yep you know we averted part dula indoor red on red football which is just
i don't want to see it uh these are nice bright colors it is what it is it'll be different
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But the groundhog seeing his shadow is a, it's a big deal for Joe Burrow and the Bengals.
It's a big indicator.
It's a big indicator because going back since 1977, there has only been three instances where two Super Bowl quarterbacks that are facing off against each other were born on years.
where the groundhog had different results.
So basically, like, one of the quarterbacks was born on a year
where the ground hawk saw a shadow
and the other quarterback was born on a year
where he didn't see his shadow.
So that difference...
You understand that shit right there?
I'm like 30% listening.
I'm just waiting to hear who to bet on.
You're going to be betting on the Bengals.
That's what I'm saying.
Okay. Okay.
Because Phil said six more weeks.
Yeah, six more weeks.
And the reason why is going back to Super Bowl 12, 1977,
Roger Stalbeck leads his team to victory.
The Groundhog saw his shadow that year,
and Roger Stalback was born on a year
where he saw his shadow.
Taylor's been getting into my stat.
Te.
2011.
Did you get into the Dutch Hawaiian?
Aaron Rogers was born on a year
that the Groundhog did not see his shadow,
and Ben Rotlitzberger was born on a year
where the Groundhog did, and guess who won that Super Bowl?
Aaron Rogers and the Green Bay Packers
and the Groundhog did not see his shadow that year.
Now read that back to me, make.
You can repeat the same thing in 2020
with Patrick Mahomes against Jimmy G.
Why is that important?
Because Matt Stafford was born on a year
where the Groundhog did not see his shadow
and Joe Burrow was and the Groundhog saw his shadow this year.
So it's going to go 4 and 0.
All right.
So who we betting?
We're betting the Bengals,
All right.
We're bet the bagels.
Rule the jungle.
Year of the tiger.
Cats are getting their first Super Bowl.
Taylor's down there in that film room with a fucking cork board and a bunch of
Pepe Sylvia.
Yeah, Pepe Sylvia.
Yeah.
Yeah, he might be down there with some mushrooms too.
He might be booming.
Only a couple.
Only a couple boomers.
Have we changed, dude?
Last year we were going to make Groundhog Day, this big holiday internationally.
sold some t-shirts, did a whole thing, put it out of social,
talking about the one holiday that needs to be corporatized.
We're leaving money on the table, folks.
Groundhog Day could make us, it could stimulate the economy
in the way few things could.
I mean, this could save the country, it could save the world,
monetize Groundhog Day.
That's what we said last year.
This year, what do we do?
We didn't even do a podcast.
Well, there are a couple problems.
One, the thing pops out at 7 a.m. Eastern.
I mean, most of us are, I'm not actually, you know.
I'm up with the sun these days.
Yeah.
That being said, yeah.
I felt like David Goggins.
Built in a year.
Woke up before 7 a.m.
Go ahead.
Yeah.
We got plenty of time to make this happen.
And we should make this happen.
It's a great idea.
Yeah.
And we'll do it.
Yeah.
You know how to make an idea.
You just don't know how to execute an idea.
Right.
Yeah.
Exactly.
But we will.
Okay.
We got it.
We got it.
But maybe we can pretend like today is Groundhog Day again.
I remember last year we were really excited that it was going to be 2-22.
And then we just kind of-
Shit, dude.
And nobody noticed.
I had to sign some paperwork on my way home the other day.
This is how you know you're kind of grown up and life is just, uh, I was signing paperwork
and I had to write 2-22 like 17 times.
I didn't even make a joke about it.
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I didn't say anything to Brooke downstairs.
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All right, it's Super Bowl commercial time,
which is the best time of the year.
If we do a live stream,
like, we really need to watch the commercials.
We really need to, like,
because this is the best part,
does anybody have a favorite
Super Bowl commercial all time that.
Yeah, for sure. The McDonald's
commercial with Michael Jordan and Larry Bird
trading like ridiculous shots.
Oh, that was a good one.
Was it Super Bowl? I reckon.
Yeah. I mean, he definitely
looked it up. That's an info. Yeah. I love that commercial
because I remember it. That's how you know
if you love a commercial. There's so many commercials
and you remember what it's for. Even though it has nothing to do with
McDonald's. Oh, here you go. Ready? Ready?
Yeah.
Wadah!
And you know, you had the frogs doing the bird wise.
That way we were teenagers.
There's always the horse commercial.
Clydesdale's.
Yeah.
So I have a Christmas card that me and my lovely wife did that we used to borrow, you know,
people's children and do like a Christmas card and act like we had kids when we didn't have kids.
And one of the years we took the abducted kid, if you want to call it that, the borrowed kid to the Anheuser-Busch farm.
And we got to see the horses and stuff.
But we were there for the many horses.
We took a picture in front of the many horses.
you've seen this one i remember that yes you received this one yeah so anyways i've seen the clidesdales
man they're pretty fucking impressive i love the coca-cola commercials they make me feel like a kid
every year and they also make me really want a cold coca cola it is and i i can't do the caffeine
but i will take a old glass bottle coca cola anytime anywhere 10 p.m. at night you can hang me when i'll
drink it i really i was a big fan at the e-trade baby commercials where he's like sitting at his
computer doing trades and that rings a bell yes oh pun in stock exchange yeah okay cool
yeah I didn't mean to yeah sure there was the Betty White rest in peace Snickers
commercial where she's playing pickup football too soon read Jesus Christ so rest and peace
read yeah but God damn you have remembrance
remembrance what you think we forgot Betty White you think we need
to remember Betty White
Reed? It's a memorial. We're talking about
she happened to be in the best one of the best
Super Bowl commercials. Insensitive
prick.
Yeah, she did.
Rest in peace, Betty White.
Do you guys have any ideas for like good
Super Bowl commercials? We do. I'm glad you asked.
Matt, I'm glad you ask because we
Mean Joe Green. We've been running an ad
campaign over here, basically.
We've been running like a think tank.
I'm still reeling after that, Betty White.
Reed, you're going to have to
note tap apologize to Betty White's family
for that.
For remembering she was in a great
Super Bowl commercial?
Kind of, yeah.
Yeah.
She's been gone like less than two months.
On Friday's Greenlight Pod,
I made light of Betty White's
2004
Snicker Super Bowl commercial.
I want to apologize to
her family and friends.
They should put you in jail, Reed,
not going anywhere for a while,
grab a Snickers.
That's going to be you for that fucking.
Betty White,
Snap who you just had?
Oh my God,
Reed.
All right.
Oh,
by the way,
on the Washington Commanders thing,
I think we should apply for two patents.
The Command Center,
one of them,
okay?
Somebody's going to need to make a sports bar
in Landover called the Command Center,
and I 100% want us to lock that
down. Also command post.
Okay. I need that done by
day's end. Command center.
That would be a sick
little sports bar in Landover, wouldn't it?
Mm-hmm. Uh-oh.
Or a podcast. One of you fucking
Washington guys wants to do a podcast right now.
I guarantee you you're thinking about calling
your podcast the Command Center. What's up?
There's a problem. What is it? Still racist.
Commander
in Chief.
Oh my God.
It's been right there.
in plain sight, yes.
Right out of their playbook.
Wow.
Wow.
Make us think you're doing a woke mob thing with the commies, right?
Commander in chief.
They cannot help themselves.
They can't help themselves.
Read?
Read laughing.
Are you laughing?
I would never.
He'd be laughing his way to the clinker.
Commander in chief.
That's incredibly ridiculous.
Yeah.
Actually, like, it's not funny.
Like, I'm not trying to be funny.
But it is.
It's ridiculous that they did that.
Fucking problematic.
Good Lord, dude.
All they had to do is call themselves the fucking red wolves and call it a day.
Or groundhogs.
It's right there.
Yeah.
So you guys want to hit yours first?
Why don't you guys give us your Super Bowl ads first?
We're the company that's hearing the pitches from Alec Baldwin and Cheetos.
Hard cut.
Cheetos.
You guys go.
All right.
So I have an idea for some new merch for the Greenlight podcast.
And I'd like to pitch you a Super Bowl commercial that I think will really.
drive up sales. So we start with Chris in his home office on Twitter. A roll of toilet paper spins.
Unrealistic. And the toilet flushes. Oh yeah, I do tweet on the toilet. Yep. The next day,
Chris sees a pair of his underwear in the trash and looks embarrassedly towards his wife who says,
I'll buy you more underwear soon. He calls his buddy Macon asking, what do I do? And Macon says,
in the toll of the roll
say hello to a bidet today
closing scene back in Chris's home office
he pushes the button
there's a water noise and Chris smiles
Greenlight bidet is only on greenlightpodcast.com
Oh man dude
You did in your pants
You made one?
No I don't know where this is coming from
I read that line for the first time
There was no rehearsal
Well I don't know this is a lot like
You know presumably my dad getting
pitch to Viagra commercial.
I don't ship my pants
and I don't think he has a problem there.
You know what I mean?
But sometimes everybody has a,
you know,
a price.
Yeah.
So how much are you paying me
to do this bidet commercial?
I don't believe in bidet,
but I will pitch badees.
What do you don't believe in them?
Don't believe in them.
You know I don't believe in them.
I've been approached by
many a bidet company
since I first let people know
that I'm anti-baday
and I've yet to fold to big bidet.
Not happening anytime soon.
Unless we're talking 8-5.
figures. I folded a long time ago and you should fold soon. You get water shot up there and
read? Yeah, read one of the- It is wonderful, not shot up, just kind of like breezes by.
Breezes by. Breases by. Water can't breeze by. You get it on the floor?
No, it stays in. The toilet.
Stays in. It goes where it needs to go.
Where's that?
and it stays in the toilet.
I'm not, I'm just not a bidet guy,
but if you guys can fetch me upwards of eight figures, I'm in.
Reed, do you dry after the water?
Yeah.
Like with toilet paper?
That's right.
But don't dry too much.
Only one sheet.
Me and Cheryl Crowe.
You and Cheryl Crow?
One sheet.
Wow.
Well, you white right before the-
Got you, got you, for sure, yes.
Yeah.
But you only need one sheet to dry.
Yeah.
You're River But Reed.
That's what you are.
Sitting on top of the geyser out there at Yellowstone Park.
River But Reed.
Those geysers just breeze by.
Breeze by, dude.
You're sitting on top of a whale's blowhole is what you're doing.
Sitting in there just turning it up on high.
He's not Betty White.
He's Betty Brown.
I didn't have a lot of time.
read the heat that ended up in your inbox oh and mine or actually we'll go one in one okay so but this is
gonna be awkward because you're gonna be narrating this whole thing right making you're gonna read
both yours and chris's ads go ahead you go first with one of mine with one of yours okay you
know the film the titanic yep picture those scenes jack wins the tickets to get on to the
boat jack meets rose they have the on flying scene at the front of the boat
And then boom.
Having sex in the car.
Sex.
And then boom.
Iceberg.
The ship is cracking in half.
People are in nice cold water.
They're dying.
Everybody's dying.
Everybody's dead.
Everybody is dead in the water.
A bunch of dead people in the water.
Hard cut.
He's doing with my hard cut.
Hard cut.
Apple Watch.
had they had Apple watches
not all these motherfuckers would be dead
Apple think different
okay there you go there's one
we'll get Leo
Kate Winslet they'll run it back
they probably
not all some of them still are alive
maybe they would have lived through
but at this point in time they'd probably be dead
I understand your point
cowboy
Riverbutt Reed
Okay, that's my first one
Little apple lay up for you
They could do a whole series with that
Yeah
Like early settlers in Jamestown freezing to death
But they have their Apple Watches
Right still alive today
Antietam guy bleeding out
She's trying to tie a tourtick around his leg
Apple Watch
Siri comes on
What's your emergency
Are you bleeding out
you seem to have found yourself in the bloodiest battle of the civil war
I'll have somebody there in 15
okay you ready for this
yeah from the email address of
Chris Long
Tom Brady walks by a man climbing Everest
he walks by an airplane
he walks onto a space shuttle looking down on earth
quote fortune favors the brave
end quote
crypto.com
yeah that sounds good doesn't it
I don't it?
I don't understand the ad
can we get an ad explainer
yeah fortune like you're going to be rich
if you're bold and invest in crypto
no it's like
literally a rip of Matt Damon's
crypto.com commercial
of whose
Matt Damon
Matt Damon
you haven't seen Matt Damon looking over space
selling crypto
okay got it got it got
That's good. That's good.
You're crying.
You're, you, uh, I hate that commercial, dude.
It's such a bad commercial.
Okay.
I'm like, is this a fucking, um, deleted scene from the Martian?
The, the graphics are terrible.
The Orville Wright thing is terrible.
Matt Damon should be ashamed of himself.
I wonder what they paid him.
Bad commercial.
You got another one?
Yeah.
You know how at the end of like, a movie or documentary,
their words on the screen that explains what happened, you know,
afterwards something.
There's going to be one of those.
So just wait.
Okay, ready?
This is for the new Ford Bronco.
So I got Al Cowlings driving down the interstate in the new Ford Bronco.
Pan over to the passenger seat.
Empty.
Pan to the back seat empty.
Pan to the way back.
I got O.J. Simpson in the back.
He says,
Hello, world.
And then he says, I committed double murder.
And then the words pop up, you know, just a day or two ago,
O.J. Simpson was arrested for admitting to committing double murder.
Apple Watch.
Ford Bronco.
Justice is served.
Ford Bronco.
Writing wrongs.
Oh, Ford Bronco.
riding wrongs.
No.
We hear you.
We hear for you.
Ford Bronco.
The bill stops here.
He was a bill.
Buck stops here.
Ford Bronco.
Juice isn't loose.
Send it off,
Reed.
It's a good one.
I thought that was really good.
Okay.
Thanks.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I'm going to have a hard time following that.
Pan back to Al Cowlings.
Yeah.
My bad before.
Okay.
All right.
Okay.
Okay.
Here's one.
Yeah.
Bill and Tom reunite on Facebook.
Oh, I like that.
Yeah.
Is that the end of the ad?
They friend each other.
I don't know how it happens, but maybe it was just,
Tom just got tired of seeing Bill posting all those pictures by his dock on his sailboat.
Yeah.
Maybe they message each other.
They poke each other.
Yeah, they poke.
Yeah.
Something there.
All right.
I'll go.
I'll do on.
Yeah.
Keep going.
Okay.
that was mine by the way
if we get picked up I want that
I want that money
Crowded Bar in Ohio
You know what though
They'll probably do that ad
So they gotta come through us
Copyright
RIP not to be confused with RIP
Not to be confused with RIP
Are you doing a booking dot com
Urban Meyer thing?
No
Okay
I'm not
Crowded Bar in Ohio
Slowly pan over to a bar stool
You got Urban Meyer
Uh
It's a young woman
Big bottle of
of Purell pops onto the screen.
Yeah.
With the tagline, Purell's current tagline,
imagine a touchable world.
Because when you get down to it,
the squad was on the plane back to Jacksonville.
Yeah.
Imagine if he had just,
it had just been cool if he was.
That's a Purell at.
Oh my God.
Because, you know, they're doing all right with this whole ongoing pandemic.
Oh, they're crushing it.
But they could also get into the,
into other demos.
I was thinking of booking.com for Urban Meyer.
Just like lose to the bengals.
You're like on the bus and you book a hotel room
and you've decided to stay in CINC.
Yeah, that's good.
Something like that.
Yeah.
It never developed.
Yeah.
Maybe safer than the one you just described.
Joe Burrow getting crushed by five guys on the football field.
Tight shot of him on his back.
Sound of touchdown.
Quote, I don't always need protection on the field.
End quote.
Joe Burrow outside Cincinnati nightclub gets bull rushed by 30 Midwestern women.
Quote, but off the field, I don't take chances.
Hard cut, Durex.
Winner!
That's good stuff.
Winner.
That's good stuff.
Condo.
You know he's having sex?
Yep.
Yep.
Yep.
That's good stuff.
Yeah.
Protection.
Just reel off a couple here.
Okay.
Joe Burrow axe.
Smell like Joe Burrow.
Teenage boy sprays himself with Joe Burrow axe.
Teenage boy violently tears ace.
trainers rush out with aircast head trainer motions to other trainers quote wait end quote sprays teenager with joe burrow axe leg heels immediately montage begins by square frame sunglasses sunglasses from mall loses virginity grows up to become president axe
commercial.
Joe Burrow for iPhone tiny, trademarked.
Quote, as a white quarterback, I like a comfortable, roomy pocket, end quote.
Motions to silhouette of two inch iPhone and khaki pocket.
Answers phone.
Quote, what's up, Jamar?
End quote, hard cut, Apple.
Great.
Commercial, they just have to come out with the phone.
They got to come out with the phone.
I think you might have found your third career, Chris.
Joe Burroughs agent?
Yeah.
Aaron Rogers in a car, hand on the wheel, shot straight on,
26 second monologue on vaccines, blockchain, Kim Trails, etc.
Quote, sir, this is a Wendy's, end quote.
Turns out of Wendy's drive-thru.
Hard cut Wendy's.
Yeah.
Right?
That's good.
Fucking timely.
That is really good.
How is Wendy's not capitalized on service as a Wendy's?
Right.
Aaron.
That's easy money.
Aaron, I know it's self-deprecating a little bit, but that's,
some fuck it's gold there and Wendy's Frank Thomas wherever the fuck his name was rest in peace
Dave Thomas Dave Thomas I was gonna say that fucking Viagra guy died yeah it's funny stuff the refth that
ran into Dak Prescott just running into people who are in a rush I'm not so sure about
this one you like this one so far I do but who's uh who are we uh does this keep going because I
Yeah, I keep you going to that.
Yeah, yeah, let me describe what happens.
Okay.
Guys, like rush into the gate, to the gate agent.
Oh, it's like a Hertz commercial.
Yeah, he's like, I got my ticket.
And then the ref just buck and bull rushes him.
Yeah.
You know, trying to get somewhere.
Yeah.
The next guy, you know, he's got his exam or his project that he's rushing to class to turn in.
Ref just obliterates him two minutes before class starts.
Yeah.
Guys proposing by a cliffside last minute to try to catch sunset.
Ref knocks him off the cliff.
Yeah.
Guy dies.
I don't know what it's for.
Yeah.
Like maybe like leave yourself enough time.
Oh, right, right, right.
Maybe a watch company.
Yes.
Yeah.
That was an unfinished ad.
Yeah.
Good though.
Yeah.
We talked it through, I think.
In the end.
Yeah.
You want to go now?
I've had like four to write.
Sure.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That's what she said.
You ain't lying.
Oh, here you go.
Ready?
Hi.
I'm Kenny Pickett for Extends.
Y'all get it?
Bigger hands?
He's got small little hands.
Good.
Yeah.
Good.
Which, you know.
I think extends, yeah, that makes sense.
I thought that was just a boner thing, but I guess people are trying to grow their penises.
I thought so.
To be candid with you, Chris, I haven't had to be in the market.
Yeah.
Nick Foles.
Walking around with a big bulge in his pants.
It's down his leg.
People are gawking.
parents covering kids eyes
he pulls out a can of pringles
hard cut
pringles that's brilliant
and funny that's great
that's really good
that's really good
what was in his pants the whole time
was a can of pringles
betcha can't eat just one
what's your pop you can't stop
Reid Taylor are you guys hearing these
indeed
they're just not even amused
at all
Oh.
Two guys on a couch watching the Super Bowl.
Aaron Donald destroys a paid actor.
This one's deep.
Guy one dips chip in hummus.
Quote,
I wonder how they make hummus,
end quote.
Cut to Hummus Factory.
Aaron Donald crushing chickpeas with his bare hands.
Right?
Yeah.
Because a lot of people don't know it.
You know,
it comes from chickpeas and Aaron.
Well,
Aaron Donald obviously doesn't do that,
but people remember that ad.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This one just says Allstate.
Right.
I don't know.
Not a fully formed one there.
Yeah, no.
Okay.
Nicoderm CQ.
A.B.'s face encouraging you to quit.
On the nicoderm patch.
Like, it's like A.B.'s face is like talking out of the nicoderm CQ patch.
And you go to like reach for a cigarette and he's like, no, quit.
Right?
Yeah.
Because he quit at the end of the end.
Yeah, yeah.
He gave up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Now you need some CGI.
but I can see it.
That's good.
You can't see that?
No, I can see it.
That's good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Actor that looks just like Urban Meyer, shit-faced in a car.
Hard-cut, Uber.
Yes.
That's good.
I mean, you could put Urban Meyer in the car for God's sake.
That's going to get everybody's attention.
Do that.
Yeah.
Sell rides.
Co-ed in the passenger seat.
No, we don't need to go that far.
Yeah.
Just people are going to be like, oh, here.
Urban Meyer has an announcement.
Uber.
Also drive home safe from your Super Bowl party.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For sure.
Okay, the container ship ever given ran a ground in the Suez Canal in March of 2020.
This is you.
Yeah.
Good, good, good.
Holding up billions of dollars in trade.
Yeah.
Hard cut.
To the fellow who's driving the thing, right?
All right.
Okay.
He's on the Southwest Airlines app.
Want to get away.
because he's stuck in a fucking container ship in the Suez Canal, you know?
If only I could get out of this jam is what he's saying.
Oh, okay.
Podcast Studio.
Yep, got it.
Top floor, office building, podcast studio.
Which is where we're going to be soon.
We're going to have a top floor studio.
Right, we do.
We do.
I have a one with a lot of glass, higher up.
Okay, cool.
Don't get more successful.
Dope, dope, dope.
Floor right below.
Charitable Foundation.
Okay, hard cut.
Back up to the podcast studio.
Softmore humor.
dirty jokes
etc
hard cut back downstairs
charitable foundation
people looking up at the ceiling
like who
who what
a hard cut
Marpack dome
classic original white noise
machine
you stick it on the steps
and then they can't hear
that's what we've been saying
we need a sound machine on the steps
I feel bad
everybody's working so hard downstairs
and we'll say things
that just probably
aren't you know
Yeah.
The smell things.
I can't help you with that.
The sound machine is not going to help with that.
Yeah.
Maybe it's a sound machine that also is an air fresher.
Hmm.
Hmm.
Million dollar idea.
Think about it.
Yeah.
Okay.
Golf course.
Mm-hmm.
Hard cut.
Bill Murray.
Yes.
That little groundhog, you know,
burrowing his way around the course.
Yep.
Out of the ground pops up Daniel Snyder with a little groundhog.
head on. Hey, we were just fucking with you with commanders, all right?
Welcome to the Washington groundhogs. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And then we got a name. Bye. Bye.
Then we got a name. And we got Bill Murray just hanging out there. Becomes Groundhog fan number one.
Yes. There's no sort of Native American relation to any of this. Commanders and chief, idiots.
We can do more next week too. We'll just keep coming up with commercials. This is going to be a thing.
Yeah.
We'll just come up with more Super Bowl ads
and hope that we get rich by the Super Bowl.
Yeah.
If not for the patent on the command center.
Yeah.
We'll get rich off these.
Novak Djokovic.
Stuck in Australia.
Southwest Airlines.
Want to get away?
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
Pretty good.
I was thinking of like a Pfizer,
a Moderna tie-in.
But yeah, we'll work on that one.
That's good.
That's good.
You guys got any one?
Give me a celebrity.
I'll put them in a commercial.
somebody trending.
Leo.
Leo.
Leo?
He was already in the Titanic commercial.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I know.
I just love Leo.
I can't get enough of them.
Yeah.
Okay, Leo and McConaughey.
No, McConnor.
No, McConnor did a whole commercial,
standard Lincoln monologue.
Yeah.
Pants to the front seat.
His driver is Mike McCarthy in a tan suit
with a beret on.
Hard cut.
Lincoln.
Okay.
I'm a machine.
Okay.
I got one.
Okay.
Picture the Lincoln White House.
All right?
Yeah.
Secretary out front.
Last name's Kennedy.
All right.
Picture the Kennedy White House.
Secretary out front.
Last name's Lincoln.
I know, that's wild.
And then the ad is for Ancestry.com.
Yes.
Yes.
That's right.
Yes.
23 and me.
Is that a dating site or a DNA site?
Yes, a dating site.
Okay.
Okay.
All right.
All right.
Field, it's beautiful, rolling, rolling hills,
fields, mountains, trees, slow pan, slow pan, all right?
Over to a guy, okay?
Yeah.
Mountain man, Carhart.
Yeah.
Hi, I'm Chris Long for legal cannabis.
That's not fully formed either.
It's pretty good.
Yeah.
It's pretty good.
Yeah.
Speaking of, I've been reading more and more about the protective nature of cannabis
in dealing with the COVID-19 and all its variants.
I kind of, you know, I don't want to jinx it.
Now I probably get COVID, but my wife was saying,
it was almost like I was getting patted on the back for smoking marijuana last night.
Good for you.
Yeah, she was caught up to some of this literature.
And so to that, I ask, read,
it's important that everybody in here is vaccinated.
I think we need to cannabis vaccinate everybody in here.
We're not going to do it today, but read sometime next week.
I want to get you vaccinated.
vaccinated. I think the last two or three
live streams have got me covered.
Really? Do you feel
that when you're in here sometimes? Yes.
When I was
editing the show on Sunday, my throat
was a bit scratchy.
That could be COVID, not
But no.
Were you hiring? High, no.
You really get, you really feel that
in here sometimes. On occasion.
Yeah? Yeah. Yep. Kind of a badass, aren't you?
Oh.
Neighborhood badass realtor.
Bad decisions.
That's for sure.
All right.
Any more ads?
Do we got any more?
I don't think so.
I think we, I don't know if we ever had any.
That's a good homework this time.
It's harder than you think.
Not from what people can tell.
I mean, it looks like we're a fucking ad agency.
You remember the Apple Watch one with all the people, the dead people?
They were dead.
You guys killed it.
It would have been, they would have been alive.
You guys killed it.
I think that's one of the more fun things we've done.
We should do it again next week.
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You want to take a few questions before we go?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Love to.
Definitely.
So we've been talking about doing some team building activities here at Greenlight.
What do you guys got in mind?
Well, I said the arcade, and I was kind of fucking around about getting a little Quicks bus,
like a mini Quicks bus, and piling in all like five of us to go to that arcade.
I was talking about decades.
Did you heard about this arcade?
Mm-hmm.
It was so fun, dude.
so fun. You had to like video games. I mean, I know you did, but like the stand-up video games,
the arcade games. Yeah, like an NBA jam. Yeah, they have an NBA jam. Yeah. So what we should do is
take a field trip for, you know, morale building and team building to go to decades, which I liken to
of course, like when we used to have a day off in camp and instead we went to the movies as a team.
Yeah. Which would suck for everybody in here. But evidently you guys followed up and said you'd like to do
that. Yeah, everybody's pretty excited for it. I did not know that, uh,
we were going to be doing this, but we will go to the arcade.
Dr. Fax has been talking smack in the text message thread that he's the best arcade game player.
Oh, not a doubt in my mind.
Never mind.
So you had said the five of us.
Well, Dr. Fax as well.
Yeah.
Huh.
But like a paid sort of vacation?
No, it's just a, it's a good, clean class field trip.
Huh.
You already agreed to go.
You did.
No, I didn't.
You said I had to go.
I didn't agree to go.
Where else did I say we were going to go as a...
Yoga.
Yoga.
We're going to do a...
There's a hot yoga studio near us.
We're going to go do hot yoga as a group, you know?
That's a damn good idea.
Right?
Yeah.
What else should we do as a group?
River float.
No.
God, no.
Those are two...
You got two really good ideas.
Okay.
People send in ideas for what we should do as a group.
Yeah.
Team building.
Did you guys know the Pro Bowls this weekend?
And the skills challenges tonight?
Somebody texted me last night and was like, you come into the Pro Bowl.
I was like, I'm not going to make a habit of it now.
Where is it?
Like, when is it?
Like, are they doing this?
I predict the next 10 years, no more Pro Bowl.
Good prediction.
Yeah, because the game is.
We should short the Pro Bowl.
Yeah, how do we do that?
That's like a finance sort of thing.
How do we do it?
Matt, how do you short something?
Explain it to us like we're five.
You essentially borrow money to sell a share of something to somebody,
and then you buy it back for a lower price.
So you're hoping that it goes down.
Okay, okay, okay.
Copyright and short the Pro Bowl.
The skills challenge, I think that's their only way.
I mean, like, I want to see guys as stupid as it is.
I want to see quarterbacks throwing a football into a Dr. Peppernet.
Like, I just, I want to see that.
I want to see running backs doing high knees all hung over because they're at the Pro Bowl.
It's in Las Vegas.
They don't give a shit.
Yeah, I used to be into seeing the moving targets that the,
quarterbacks would throw at like Randall Cunningham, Troy Aikman.
That stuff used to be pretty fun.
What else could they do with these guys at the Pro Bowl to get to shake things up?
Play a different sport. How about Hoops?
The Pro Bowlers play a game of Hoops.
Love that. That's pretty good. Yeah.
That's real good.
Speaking of Hoops, did you guys see the newly designed All-Star Game MVP trophy?
So I like it. And Matt, I know how you feel because you were all hot and bothered about it making...
I can't bring myself to care one bit.
Well Matt said the previous one was iconic, I think is the word of use.
I can't picture of the previous All-Star trophy.
It looks like a mid-century modern like a chandelier of some sort.
Brass, German, you know?
Yeah, it looks like a, it looks like a wedding cake made of ice.
Yeah, it looks like so.
Oh, ice sculpture wedding cake.
Yeah, that's what it looks like.
Yeah.
Actually, I like that better than the old one.
and Matt was not happy.
Yeah, I'm down with the fact they named it after Kobe Bryant,
like one of the greatest players in the history of the All-Star game.
I think the rebranding of the name is cool.
But the old trophy is iconic, the classic circle with the NBA logo in the middle,
like Jordan holding that up.
I mean, I don't think you should change something that's not broken.
And then the Winter Olympics started last night.
If you guys were given, like, let's say, $10 billion, if you could win a medal,
in the next 10 years,
what event
do you think you would try
to win a medal at?
Do I get the 10 years back?
Like if I spend 10 years
trying to be a fucking,
I don't know,
cross-country skier
and Reid's got me out there
like Apollo Creed and Rocky.
Sure, you get the 10 years back
if you get the medal.
Then do I get to try again
in a different sport?
Sure.
I can only do two of them
and that would be curling's the easy answer.
Everybody figures it could be good.
It's got to be curling.
But I want to throw
about Bob Slay.
Yeah, that too.
You know, I don't think there's an athletic limitation there.
Right, and I'm a big team guy, and it's really driving.
I love driving.
I might need to get my weight up a little bit for torque.
Yeah, a lot of G's.
I thought Chris would be probably pretty good at that.
You, like, have to get low and drive and push, and then you jump in.
And then you just jump in.
And you jump in.
What about, yeah.
And he's got more weight, which is good for the.
What about me?
What about Macon?
I'm never running out of the guy in the front seat.
I think Macon should.
probably not as best as time in this.
Well, then Luge.
Then I think Makin's probably Luge.
Luge.
Which one's that?
It's a bit,
I don't know,
I'm on the site.
It's a picture of a guy laying down.
What about biathlon?
It looks like somebody's shooting something.
Is that after you're skiing?
That's right.
You go skiing and then you have to stop periodically and shoot targets.
I don't know if I'm a good shot.
I haven't shot anything.
Why would I want to?
I don't think that's,
you know?
Did you know that I can't make a fist?
Right, I've heard that.
I've heard that.
An injury in college.
Something called skeleton where a guy lays on his stomach and goes downhill.
There's actually not that many events.
Damn, dude.
It's just curling, dude.
That's it.
Yeah.
You want to talk some shit about me and curling?
I wish my kids were fucking winner Olympians because then they'd have shit to do when it's
cold outside.
Apollo.
Huh?
Huh?
Huh?
If sledding was an Olympic sport,
would you compete?
No, because sledding is overrated.
Sledding is overrated,
Reed, as we discussed in the live stream.
Sledding is overrated as a child.
It was underrated.
As an adult, it's overrated because
who has to bring the children up the hill
after they sled approximately 20 yards?
It's not as big as it felt when you were a kid.
You know, so you got to go down there and get them
and you get wet. The kids get wet, right?
So I think sledding is overrated, dude.
Making there's talk that you have a new college hoop system?
I do have a new system.
I cannot discuss it.
On night one, it went three and two.
If it goes three and two or better again this evening,
I will reveal my system to you guys.
I don't think to the public,
I'll give out the plays for sure.
I just can't give out the system.
So you can't tell us why.
You're just telling us you have a system
and you gave us the reasoning.
I need one more night.
I need a bigger sample size.
I need a two-night sample size.
So we have a system, any guesses?
If I go 0 and 5 tonight, I'm not going to put you guys through that.
Well, okay.
Please.
And now we're going to have to wait like almost a week.
But can we say what the system is Sunday night?
Because people are going to be really excited.
I'll give out the plays.
I don't think I can give out the system.
Okay.
I mean, shit.
Ken Palm charges for a subscription.
I'm not going to just give out of.
You're right.
You're right.
Okay.
All right.
Well, that's that for sports today.
That's today on sports.
Is that something somebody says?
I should be, I mean, like...
I don't think so.
That's that for sports.
That's that for sports.
Tune in next week.
Take care.
