Green Light with Chris Long - Josh Allen Outduels Patrick Mahomes, Darnold's Dominance & Bears-Bengals = Drunk | NFL WK9 Reactions

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

NFL Week 9 reactions has us reeling from a great day of football! The Buffalo Bills defeated the Kansas City Chiefs in another Josh Allen-Patrick Mahomes classic. Sam Darnold dominated the Washington Commanders on Sunday Night Football. The Indianapolis Colts came back to earth as the Pittsburgh Steelers' defense finally came through. The Chicago Bears and Cincinnati Bengals played one of the drunkest games ever, the Vikings beat the Lions, and the Patriots escaped the Falcons. Unfortunately, there were a few injuries this week with Tucker Kraft and Jayden Daniels both leaving their respective games, impacting not just those games but likely the rest of the season. (00:00:00) - Intro (00:03:00) - Seattle Seahawks vs Washington Commanders (00:19:00) - Buffalo Bills vs Kansas City Chiefs (00:37:10) - Pittsburgh Steelers vs Indianapolis Colts (00:45:25) - Denver Broncos vs Houston Texans (01:00:20) - New England Patriots vs Atlanta Falcons (01:10:38) - Minnesota Vikings vs Detroit Lions (01:22:15) - Carolina Panthers vs Green Bay Packers (01:33:05) - Chicago Bears vs Cincinnati Bengals (01:45:30) - San Francisco 49ers vs New York Giants (01:05:19) - LA Rams vs New Orleans Saints (01:55:00) - Jacksonville Jaguars vs Las Vegas Raiders (02:01:35) - LA Chargers vs Tennessee Titans (02:22:30) - Green Light Phone Line (02:33:00) - BetMGM Moments (03:02:15) - MNF Previews Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Also, check out our paddling partners at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Appomattox River Company ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. Green Light's ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠YouTube Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, where you can catch all the latest GL action: Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Who's the best quarterback on the planet? Shosh Allen. Shosh Allen. Kickoff return for a touchdown. A blocked field goal? A blocked field goal. An onside kick for time. Onside kick.

500 yards of offense. I maintain that the chiefs are going to be held to deal with come playoff time. 30 yards. Every time. Why? Welcome to the show. That was better. That was a better slate of football, wouldn't it?

That was a lot better. Yeah, man. It's a bad day to be. It is a bad day to be a hot dog. How is that? It's a hat that, um... You're trying to do marketing for Marlon Humphrey's Glissetor? No, so, um, my wife was Joey Chestnut for Halloween.

And then this, uh, hat came in late. Yeah. So now it's mine. Um, and it is a bad day to be a hot dog. Halloween. I think your dad was kind of disappointed and I didn't really understand his... In his, oh, why? Well, he was land man.

And I was just like, like, where are you guys? That's like the laziest costume ever is to do like the cowboy or cowgirl thing. And my dad did it and actually was like, yeah, no, it's Landman. Who hasn't seen that show? I guess a lot of people know that show though. So we're in the minority. All right. Well, I was a pickle for Halloween.

Or a cucumber? A cucumber. You didn't a girl feel really bad. Because she felt really cool. You walked into the party and she was like, oh, I got a nice. one and she goes to Chris oh I see you got yourself in the pickle and Chris with a real straight face goes I'm a cucumber and my girl felt so bad dog I was doing that so bad and I she waited she waited like 20 minutes and she said something to me and I'm like babe you know he was

joking yeah you can't take me seriously if you just said anything about a cucumber he was going to say but yeah there was a moment where we were out trigger-treating and I was doing my whole cucumber deal and um there's these these adults walked up and they're like what are you I said a cucumber with a straight face and they were like no seriously like look over there and their kid was a pickle also like this tall and the kid walks over to me and lets out the biggest streak like of excitement it was like we found each other and then i was like you want to get a picture together and the kid ran off so i got to know my uh limitations um all right so where are we going to start fellow i got i got i got dr fax here i got nolan here i got cowboy here as usual i got i got both sefas through

the screen there. Gang, dang, I got my jacket on, Chris. Just saying, if you did. That was great, though. Nice, dude. Does it fit? Yeah. Oh, it's a little tight.

I like it that way. Squatover, yeah, I ordered it. I was like, how long before you guys bring up Squatober? October affecting your... October's over. We're not talking about it for a full year. Are you making gains if you don't talk

about it? All right, let's do it, guys. Let's do it. Oh, man. Sunday night football. Sunday night football. Hey, this is. I saw this on X. This guy's Stucky too. Shout out to Stucky too.

He kind of went through all the standalone games we've had lately. By the way, it's fucking Antarctica in here. You know, maybe two degrees higher would be great. No, leave it right where it is. It has to start here. For the love of God. Because you guys start hot, when we start talking and everything, it's going to start getting hot, it's going to warm up.

But if we do it the other way, we're all going to be sweated. Some of my ancestors might have lived in the tropics, dude. Are you anemic? Because I get a little cold. Bro, it is typically 85 degrees in here. Yeah. Typically. Anyways, according to Stucky.

Not according to Stucky. This is just facts. Let me go through the last like six or seven standalone games the NFL's had. Rams Jags blowout. Niners, Falcons, stinker. The Rams Jags blowout was in London for those of you who forgot about it. Niners Falcons was just a hideous football game. Lions Bucks was ugly.

Didn't have to be that ugly. Hawks, Texans, Fugley. That was the worst game I've ever seen. I could not believe I stayed up until 2 in the morning for that one. Chargers, Vikings, that was some sadistic shit. They basically had Carson Wentz out there with a labrum dangling by a string. And Kirk Herb Street was just fucking, you know, chastising him. That's supposed to be your alpha.

That's right there is supposed to be your leader. And he's throwing his helmet. That was wild. Okay. And then we had Packers, Steelers, which was decent. Chiefs commies, which was gross, Ravens Finns, which was abuse. And then last night was like child abuse.

That was crazy. That was crazy. So we are due. I think tonight's going to be a banger. Tonight's got to be a banger. Cardinals, we booked a dinner tonight for, you know, this is how serious we are about football. Like Charlie had booked a dinner for the group.

Like, you know, hey, we're going to catch up. We're going to get together. And he had some shiny reservation. And I was like, yeah, do they have TVs there? He's like, no, I'm like, we have to see Cardinals, Cowboys. So the worst is over. Okay, not for the Washington commanders. Guys, where do they go from here?

I think they're on the grill. I forgot to get the grill out. But they're on the grill. You can put the commanders on the grill. Would you not agree? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Adam Peter's got to be working the phones today, trying to sell as many pieces as possible.

That's what he has to do. That's what he has to do. at this point they're the oldest, one of the oldest rosters in the NFL, if not the oldest. They were going into the season. Yeah, and Latimore tore his ACL last night. You know, they've lost guys. They obviously, the Jaden Daniels injury is the icing on the cake for why you've got to sell now. I mean, that was hideous.

That was awful. And he shouldn't be in the game at that point. And if he's in the game, he should not be quarterback keeping down on the goal line. You are so lucky. I mean, people lose their jobs over stuff like that. You are so lucky that's not his throwing arm. Now, I know that it's going to be, you know, Khalil Mack just went through it and he could come back at some point this year,

but that's hideous. I think the story of the game, before we put the game to bed and talk about who they might sell is the Seahawks being absolutely for real. It's nice to see them in a standalone spot so everybody can see that. You know, what we've kind of suspected all season long now, the commanders, what made this such a free? money type game and I said that in the live show last night was like their safety play's been terrible and if there's any group that can take the top off the defense late in the down

and manipulate the safeties it's this group and I don't think the ball hit the ground in the first half it looked like routes on air yeah it really did um so he got jinxed at halftime though I don't know if you saw that Donald what did he said someone at halftime said to me that I hadn't thrown an incompletion so I think he's the blame for throwing an incompletion in the second half. That's such a baseball player thing to say. Jinks is in sports. Yeah, yeah. So anyways, we've got Sam Darnold looking like, you know, what he was drafted to be in Seattle.

That's great. You know, Greg Olson's talked a lot of this week, the last couple weeks, about how there's a trend where teams are going heavy. And instead of, you know, teams just sitting there in nickel. they're trying to match with base personnel and the trend in the league right now is to throw out a heavy. And, you know, his argument is, why not just stay light?

Make teams run the football out of 12. And his point on Seattle is they are not a dominant run game team. What they do is they heavy up and they kill you with the pass. And that was on display last night. I just thought, you know, what a spot for them in a standalone game to look like they look.

So let's get in the commanders. Shall we? Who do you think we should sell? Zach Ertz? Hayerts, Payne. Duran Payne. I think somebody's holding up Duran Payne to Buffalo. I got a Buffalo answer for you.

Get Ebo. What? Debo to Buffalo. Buffalo needs a receiver. Well, that's kind of interesting, isn't it? I think so. But I don't know that that's exactly what they need. They kind of have the underneath guy.

They kind of have their screen game is pretty lethal. And it's bad to say it to feed into it, But ever since Steve Smith went off on Kenan Coleman, I'm starting to look at him a little bit different. But you just weren't looking close enough, I guess. No, it wasn't that. But I guess it's forgetting that you guys wasted a big, I mean, a high draft pick for him,

and you would want him to be showing up a lot more than he is. And the fact that they're talking about adding a receiver, when you just kind of like you drafted a big time receiver, that doesn't always look good. They just can't separate. He just can't separate. At this point in this career, like, you know, things can change in the whole thing. But I think they need a guy outside that can separate.

Like, they've needed that for a while. Well, apparently they were calling about a lave, which would be a perfect fit. But Shaheed is also a perfect fit for that too. At the speed element. Yeah, we've been floating, adding, somebody needs to go get him. Somebody needs to extract him, rescue him. But, yeah, Buffalo, if I was going to make it, we'll get to Buffalo in a minute. Let's not get into Buffalo because I'm going to talk about Buffalo for a while today.

But I think, you know, you mentioned Louvoo. I don't know who else is out there on that team, but it really needs to be a yard sale at this point. And they need to start over. The worst thing you can do is Chase success right now. You know, the reality is they were set up better than you thought last year. The quarterback took the league by storm. And they played above themselves defensively.

And this year, you know, they go get Amos from Ole Miss and that sort of thing. But the safety plays I mentioned has been bad. Up front rushing coverage is just, doesn't match up. They don't have the guys up front. So I, you know, like, I think they're so far away that it's almost like you just have to eat this year and say, hey, we're not going to fuck up the, the rookie window that we have with this quarterback by trying to win right now. And I think the injury kind of nudges them in that direction. Yeah. I think the offense isn't too far away, but that defense is just the age, the collective age of that group. They need to

infuse it with young talent. And the way you do that, is collecting draft capital right now. And they lose Luke McCaffrey last night, which, you know, maybe not a big deal for some teams, but it's a big deal for them, you know? So my girl, not that she's getting into bed and she always asked me here and there,

she's like, oh, who should I bet on tonight? I'm like, yo, Luke McCaffrey is a great person to look at for prop bets. He's been coming on. He's been coming on for their team and catching a lot more passes. Look at his receiving totals. and she put a bed in and he gets hurt.

In like the first quarter, he gets hurt. That's a tough one. She won't be asking you again. Definitely won't. No, so, you know, the only other thing I wanted to talk about coming out of this game was, and Chris Collinsworth said it. They were in podcast mode, by the way, last night, like pretty early, Collinsworth and Torrico, which actually makes for some pretty good TV.

There was a point where we were all kind of, you know, weary out. looking at the second half of that game and I'm like are we the only ones watching this game gamblers and people that work in football? Yeah, and maybe Seahawks fans everybody else has turned it up. Abraham Lincoln-Colensworth. That was incredible. Collinsworth's dad's name was Abraham Lincoln-Collinsworth. Did you hear him talk about that last night? What? No. Yeah, you guys got to lock in the second half of these blowouts. You never know what kind of gems Collinsworth dropping. but at one point he compared the defense to the LOB.

And to that I will say, not so fast, my friend, but we do like Eminari a lot. You've been talking about him since he came out. And it's pretty obvious to see early on that he is some sort of mix of Cam Chancellor and Kyle Hamilton. No question.

The bullying he does, and you mentioned the screen game in college. Oh my God. But the bullying he does at the point of attack is the way he was talking to Zach last night on an out route that he just abused the hurts on yeah and Collinsworth was like hey you're Torrico's like it's talking to a 12-year vet like that I'm like he doesn't give a fuck no he doesn't he doesn't give a fuck and that's

what makes this defense they play with an attitude man they really do and yeah before we move I just wanted to shout out the the front of this the Seahawks defense I mean we're talking about the last night them trying to run like trying to run the ball on the Seahawks defense is like trying to run uphill like it It is so difficult to get going. They're so disruptive, so physical, so athletic. It feels like they hit the running back before he gets to the line of scrimmage every single play. That's right.

They're an awesome group. And even more is a big part of that playing in the box. A fun matchup would be Indy in Seattle. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You know, you have to have really good guard play. Those guys, now, about Indy, they didn't have great guard play all over the field yesterday. But I just look at this defense, like there's not a lot of weak spots.

Now, you had the job. Jones injury. I don't know what the deal is with Ernest Jones, but, you know, famously, last year he was the first domino when they started to turn things around when they acquired him. We'll see what goes on with that injury right there, but that's a big one to monitor. And Seahawks, too, for a team that's in the corner of the map, they are four and O this year on the road, undefeated on the road. Yeah. I think because every time they leave Seattle, they actually get to see the sun.

Maybe so. Maybe so. It's just like some extra energy. They're getting some extra. I don't know, dude. But honestly, when I played back in the day, when I played, that field was, it was hell to go play in Seattle. And since McDonald has taken over, it's gotten a little better lately, but they were not great at home. And so, you know, this team being road warriors, that's a feather in his cap. So if they can just get the home field advantage back to where it was, man, if they get home playoff games, it's a scary place to play.

It's a scary place to play. You know what else is crazy? The way this defense looks now, it goes to show you the ceiling, and I know some things have changed for them just in like a month span, but the ceiling on the buck's offense when the buck's offense is at full strength

and cooking because they couldn't stop them at all at home a few weeks ago. Are we given enough credit to JSN? He's almost at 1,000 yards. I think people are starting to give him credit. I think what's funny about his body type, he is versatile. You can use him in a lot of different ways. They can put him in the backfield.

You can put him in the slot. You can work him underneath. You can hit him on a deep over deep ball. Like he really has a full toolkit. But when he came in a league, I think you look at a body type like his and you're like, he's not a number one receiver, which is kind of like it's akin to the right tackle, left tackle conversation or, you know, or the left end, right end conversation was kind become antiquated in today's NFL where you know great rushers rush on both sides great

tackles play on both sides great receivers coming all sizes and uh and and and you know functions and i think uh i think people are starting to talk about him in the right light it was crazy last night thinking about it you know sometimes in these production meetings you get a throwaway comment from mike mcdonald or one of these coaches and you share it and you like big whoop but it was cool hearing about when they ship decay out it's like he goes to McDonald and he goes, I want to be the best receiver in the game. Like, I can be the guy.

And he goes, well, you got to work hard and you got to come back and prove it. And they have been proven right in so many ways by not just making him the feature. And having also, Brinning Cooper Cup, who will block, that's a big part of what they do. Everybody's blocking. Barner, really good tight end.

But it's the Sam Darnold move. No doubt. You know, last year we're sitting here and they got Gino Smith, and some people are like, hey, don't get rid of Gino. I think it's been immediately proven to be the right move. And, you know, Minnesota luckily got some good player of the rookie quarterback yesterday. But Sam Darnal looks like one of the biggest dominoes in the NFL two years running now. He's the 18th highest paid quarterback in the league right now. And he's playing top five.

It's incredible value. He's kind of, he's still in improve it mode. Right. Not anymore after this year. Right. Well, it's so interesting, man. We were talking about this yesterday with him. Like, I would put his tape this year up with anybody's in the league.

But it's just, you know, that phenomenon of how when you're talking about quarterbacks, you're assessing QBs, the way who a guy was, FX, who they are now, the way they're playing now. Yeah. Like, he's been playing so well in every aspect of the job. But because of week 18 last year, I'm afraid. to fall in love like i'm gonna get i think it's different i think the protection is in in so much better shape and the run game supporting the protection but i agree it's like he everything was so good and people were doubting him last year the whole way and then the minute he had that those meltdown

games um which was a function of the whole offense people like see for sure you know it was like yesterday and we'll get to the indie game we all are sitting in the room watching indian pittsburgh and we've given daniel jones's flowers all year and think he is a lot better than people gave him credit for. But the minute he threw a pick or two, we all in unison said, there he is. As if he ripped his mask off.

And that's just not fair to him. And so guilty is charged, but the same thing with Sam Donald. He's a lot closer to the player. I think we're seeing the last two years than he was in New York. It does help the Seahawks offensive line. Their fifth lowest pressure rate in the NFL,

27.9%. And Gray's able yesterday. through the season hasn't allowed a sack. Six lowest QB pressure percentage. Dude, they draft well. That's what they do. I mean, Schneider does a great job up there. You talk about some of the folks that they brought in, whether it's free agency or through the draft.

I mean, you look at Gray Zabel, you look at Byron Murphy, some of the young players they have on the interior, their offense and defensive lines. You bring in guys like Tank Lawrence. You draft guys like Emmen Worry, Witherspoon, who's not out there. But, like, they really have. have or the Ernest Jones signing. They've done a great job. All right, let's get to the main event. We just talked too long about a 38 to whatever it was game. Buffalo, 28, Kansas City 21.

I just want to say the thing that's the, they've done this over and over again. Okay, they've beaten the chiefs in the regular season. We know the dichotomy between the postseason, the regular season, usually about the bill's defense. But I do want to say this looked a little different. And that could change soon because we did get the report this morning from Schultz that, from Jordan Schultz, that Chief's rookie left tackle Josh Simmons has returned to the team facility after missing the last four games to tend to a personal family matter. That was a big mystery.

We wondered when you get the guy back. They had him on the first thing smoking today. And they absolutely needed to because they looked. they look bad up front. And the Chiefs have a tackle problem when he's not on the field. The Bill's pressure Mahomes on 52.6% of dropbacks, which is plus 14.3% higher than their pressure rate

in any of the other nine matchups against the Chiefs since 2020, including Mahomes, three of 16 for 61 yards and an interception under pressure. You know, the game plan worked perfectly for them. And I think they knew they had an ace in the hole. We talked about this coming in the game. way they could win this game was affecting Mahomes via the tackles. And they whooped those guys. The first play that Wanyi Morris came in, I mean, somebody bull rushed Wanii Morris. I think it was

Rousseau right into Mahomes. It would have been helmet to helmet. It would have been a 20-yard penalty. He hit him so hard in the head with his own helmet. It was just like it's bodies back there, dude. And I thought the bills did a great job of rushing, understanding that to rush of homes you have to get as much depth as possible and come back and the guys inside have to do a really good job of playing center field and uh and it was just a messy pocket all night so the bill's defense mcdermott took it over that's one thing to talk about is it the second half of that atlanta game when they were getting cooked against Atlanta and they looked terrible and Atlanta damn near put 30 points on in the first half he said enough of this shit he took the defense back from babbage they played more men than

you think in the first half yesterday and then the second half they went back to play in more zone but i thought what you know it was a indicative thing was andy reed had 20 minutes out of the half you know like the best offensive coach of all time with patrick mahomes as your quarterback and this defense including guys like cole bishop you're down a safety taylor wraps down um you got tray white out there for some snaps um you know and you have 20 minutes and you come out and you go three and out they they really they're third downs in second half we're third and ten on average. So it wasn't fluky. Andy had time to counter and they couldn't counter and it's about the guys man. Bosa's a mercenary. This is what you bring Joey Bosa in to do. Big games, big rushes, big moments.

Hoyt, who was a big part of their rush plan, pops as Achilles. That's terrible, man. I've always been a fan of his when he was in L.A. And then to see him, it felt like he was going to be a part of a really fun ride and he had to get off it like way sooner and I wish he he did man like that was tough he didn't he didn't want to go to the locker room nothing he wanted to watch the game that guy's got to be crushed but those guys on the edges harston running step for step with with rice was huge like worthy it was worthy down the sorry with worthy i mean worthy's a four two guy he's running step for step with him like i you know the pick was great but that rep to me was just as fun to watch and then the early down pressure you saw benford with a sack those guys were were knifing through

making plays in the run game but cole bishop that's my question Chris my question for you is like as rushers obviously this game was played in buffalo it just seems like it's kind of a different animal if it's an arrowhead you know what I mean like it felt like they the the crowd noise was so much more of a factor than uh in the past when you see him playing arrowhead because those dudes were absolutely fucking burning off the ball I think there's something to that and I think it's also relevant to look at Kansas City right now. It's five and four. And, you know, that's something that they say, usually you can say, we're going to get home playoff games. I don't know if they do this year. And I think they're really good, but I don't know if they get home playoff

games. But I just wanted to say this before we talk about the offense. But Cole Bishop, player of the game for me, he made so many big plays. And this is so out of nowhere, if you ask Bill's fans, like, where do you want to help most at the deadline? Like, safety's near the top. And they've been waiting for this guy to come on. He made. He made a play on the motion to worthy on third down and then followed up immediately on fourth down making a play underneath in zone coverage he looked back at a play that they ran that was the exact same concept against the the chargers in week one and film study explained after the game led him to making that play so you make those two big plays you force them to punt the next time kansas city gets the ball

back they're down 2110 which totally changes the the complex complexion of the game. It's not the complexity of the game. It's the complexion of the game. And then you get the PBU and the end zone which keeps it 21-13 on third down and then the first third down out of the half he makes the play. So I just thought this was a big, big step for them

and it gives them hope. You hope it's not fool's goal to think maybe this kid can start elevating his play and we can help at the trade deadline in places we really need it, which I think is a defensive tackle. There are some really rough reps inside for both teams and one team was able to take advantage of it way more with their run game.

Kansas City just wasn't. They need help inside. I think Malik Collins needs to be a bill by this afternoon. Dude, you've got barely any cap space. This guy's been a terrific player for the Browns this year. Go fucking get him, dude. He's more inexpensive than some of the other guys wouldn't float, and I think he'd be great. How excited would a guy be to go from Cleveland?

Best flight. Best flight. Every week, right? It'd be incredible. What are you going to say, Bo? I got another one for you, Chris. Jonathan Allen, the Vikings. I feel like Redmond's coming on.

He's a little more expensive. But that's one I don't think I've heard any people really talking about. And I've loved his game for a while. Then we mentioned pain a little bit. But then like the dream scenario, I don't think this is going to happen. If you're Jeffrey Simmons, that'd be a fucking great scheme for you to go. They've talked about not trading him, but like he's so good. And that'd be such a fun scheme for him to be a part of.

I don't think they have the money for Simmons today. They can afford him. Yeah. I mean, in a dream scenario, it'd be great. But I think yesterday's game, and I know it's like, hey, we've seen this movie before, but I think there was something different about this where, you know, like, and maybe Simmons being back swings the whole thing. And maybe Pacheco being back swings the whole thing. But I do think they have an advantage offensively.

I mean, we focus on defense. They have an advantage offensively that has changed year over year where you could see yesterday in that game, they own the middle of the field. They planted their flag in the middle of the field offensively. don't know what Kansas City does to go away from it. Spags usually shows two game plans, regular season and postseason, but I don't know how much different it would be because when Eric Reed left to go to New Orleans, we talked about this last week. Justin Reed, or Justin Reed goes to New Orleans. They talked about it last week. Who's going to cover Kincaid? Who's

going to cover these guys? They ran plays of the tight end in the first half where on one of the play actions, Haws or Knox could have scored. They were both open. I mean, and Drew Tranquil, If you put a VR headset on this guy yesterday, it was like watching a horror movie, dude. His little head was turning around, left and right, trying to be king caves behind him on a cross. You know, they hit him by the pylon in the first half. There was a play early in the game

where they flipped the back on third down and go four strong. Okay, you guys following? And they run a man-beater into the flat, and they pick, I think it was tranquil. Okay, later in the game, they come back to the same damn thing. Flip the back, they go four strong. Tranquil's on the opposite side. He's the underneath defender, and I'm watching his head.

Got seeing ghosts out there. Yeah, dude, there was a lot of this out there at Linebacker, and they run Shakir on the crosser and pick Trankel anyways. It just was like they knew that they loved that matchup, and they could win in the middle field. And they did in the run game. They ran that fucking, Beau, I don't know what you would call it when they getting eye near with a big stack of tight ends.

And they insert. It's like a lead with 41. Yeah. Yeah. They were brushing it. I mean, they got. Yeah,

exactly. And he was getting some love on the broadcast too, rightfully so. But dude, they ran that. It's like a, it's like a, it's like a numbers thing.

It's a number's thing. It's a number thing. It's like a split zone to me, though. It's split zone with a lead. And yeah, exactly. And he's not flashing all the way back across the line of scrovers,

but it's so good backside off that B block. You know what I'm saying, Chris? Yes. And they defended it a lot. lot better in the second half. But dude, they made some serious. They still ran it like 17 times. It was nuts. You ran that like 12 times. And Cook had sold 114 yards. But I mean, that's kind of what I want to interject with. You're talking about how good their tight ends have been in the past game. So much of that is

how effective they are running the ball like first and second down and like just getting in a good rhythm on their offense. And that's what I think was so impressive to me about the bills. It's like, there's no secret about what their identity is. And yet they still went out there. there and did it against, you know, their biggest AFC rival. So, I mean, hats off to that, man, they're, they were fucking, they were moving them. They were moving them hausses up front. Well, here's the deal. You know, Kansas City in, in the second matchup, they can't get heavier. I mean, they keep their backers on the field, right? You know, like, what can they do to improve their lot in life against a really good offensive line like that and a good back and good

tight ends? Not much is going to change in that way. You could, you could have a better game plan. And for the bills, they stay light. That's what they do. They stay light. And they played some man. They played more men than you thought early in the game. And they got the little guys to play big. That's what Sean McDermott does, man.

I thought it was fun to see Cam Lewis making some plays out there. You know, they really do in these big games sometimes. You're like, how the fuck are they going to do it? And they do it. So I thought McDermott, hats off to him. His timeout management is to be, it leaves a lot to be desired. But other than that, I thought he coached a great game defensively. And yeah, just go get somebody to help in the middle, man.

Because I think, like, I think the window's wide open. You know, if you want this to be the year, you have to burn the ships a little bit if you're Buffalo. Like, this is it, dude. So go get somebody to help in the middle. You don't have a lot of cab space, but I think that could help a lot. Are you still nervous if you're Buffalo that it felt like a pretty solid, dominant performance, but Mahomes still had 22 seconds there at the end. I felt like they were in control.

You know, I know that's like a thing where it's like, hey, late in the game. At the same time, I think the bills, if they don't play with their food, you know, Cook is a 14-yard run. They throw the ball twice. They take a sack. They miss the field goal. They missed the field goal. I think they had this game under control.

Now it helped making the big plays on defense. But I also just want to say this. If you were born three years ago, and immediately were able to consume the NFL, right? And you had no preconceived notion of who anybody was before that. Who's the best quarterback on the planet? Lamar Jackson. No, Shosh Allen.

Shosh Allen. Lamar's the best regular season quarterback on the planet. I mean, no disrespect. You know how much I love the guy. But Josh has had success in the playoffs. Even in Kansas City losses, he's played well. I think it is about time we start talking about it. The feather in his cap is going to be beating my.

Mahomes in the playoffs once. That's what it's going to take for people to accept that, that over the past two to three years, and you could say, hey, Mahomes has not had the tackles one year. It was the drops a year before. But fucking Josh Allen's throwing the ball to Shavers and, you know, a bunch of guys outside and some tight ends and they've got a good run game. To me, the ball barely hit the ground the first half.

Like, this guy is, he's fantastic. So we'll see this matchup again. or maybe we won't. This could be the type of year where Kansas City gets in and loses in the wild card round. Well, if you're Nate... Guess what?

Guess what? If playoffs started today, guess whose favorite team's not in it? Who's that? Kansas City. They would be... They're going to the playoffs. If the playoffs started today...

No, I know. Jags in. Kansas City... Can you admit that... But we're talking about today. No, we're not, though. The playoffs don't start today. Legitimately are not.

talking about today. But everyone's talking about Casey when they get to the playoffs. Is everyone talking or are we talking? When they get to the wild card game, it's like we can't talk about them. Dude, if they play the Jags again, I will bet you whatever you want. Like whatever you want. Hey man.

Hey man. Hey, hey, focus on getting to the playoffs. Because right now, all of a sudden I'm a Kansas City fan. They're out. No. My man crushes Josh Allen and then when Josh Allen beats him, now it's like, you know, I just love that everyone They just assume that KC's going to find their way into the playoffs.

Because they always do. When they have to show, when they have to be in the playoffs. Me? Do you think that Kansas City will be in the playoffs? No. You don't think they're going to the playoffs. No. What happens?

All right. So what can we do if they don't go to the playoffs? If they go to the playoffs, what are you going to do? I don't know. It doesn't matter. But right now, I know that they're the first team out. And the Jags is the first team. I maintain that the chiefs are going to.

to be held to deal with come playoff time when they get josh simmons back they're going to be they're going to be scary mohams didn't play his best game i still do think if i'm a bills fan which i am i'm encouraged by yesterday and not in a way like not forgetting about the context of what i'm saying which is that every year they losing the playoffs to the chiefs i felt very encouraged by what i saw yesterday i did i it's hard to explain man how you get in that game and say hey we're you look a lot more settled i feel like to me you know what i mean sometimes josh he has that hero in him because he's a fucking you know he is that guy and sometimes you see him like really try to force things which that is who he is you know he wants to be the playmaker because he's that fucking

dude uh but he looked like calm and just a fishing like you know it was just good to see him like you know fucking embrace that moment and not try to do too much well he didn't have to they got the lead and they were running the football and again like laden it down when you've got tight ends and you and you own the middle of the field and you have a running quarterback who pulls coverage up on him. That is a, that is a fucking, that's a recipe for winning. A little slick. Yeah.

Yeah, that he did. Yeah, that was slick. I mean, and any other quarterback, the minute we see it at home, it's like the, the quarterback on TV takes a second, maybe doesn't see it, maybe gets sacked. Josh, when I see it, Josh sees it. And I'm watching on TV. And, and I don't know that he sees the field. Like, I don't know that he's, I don't, I've heard this before.

I don't know Josh Allen is like a, is a guy who, who. who walks up to the line is reading coverage as pre-snap. He's playing backyard football sometimes out there. But he sees things. You know, we talk about Mahomes' vision. Yeah. He does have that vision. He does some of that too.

You know, somebody said he has fighter, Andy, Andy Reid said he has fighter pilot vision. Josh Allen's got like some other kind of vision. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But he was great. So big win for the bills.

A tank driver vision. I was going to say truck driver vision, but. Driving them tanks. down on the ground. I don't know, man. But he was awesome yesterday, and that was a great game. So we might see it again. We might.

They have to worry. I hope we do. They have to start worrying about the Patriots. This whole Kansas City, this rivalry thing, they have to, it's no more Josh Allen's Mahomes, Josh Allen, Drake May. That's the big, that's the big game. That's the games that everyone should. Okay.

All right. Well, no, I'm with you. I think that's going to be a tough game the second time they play. No questions asked. It would be fine. You know, we're going to get to New England a second. I just want to see them play, you know, some better teams. You know, I think that's fair.

You know, it's the first installment of this era. Okay. Casey out, if the playoffs started today, just a reminder. Yeah. But playoffs don't start today. So pull it up if the playoffs started today because this is, Nate's taking us here. I love these graphics. I love it too.

These are my favorite graphics. if the playoffs started today. Oh, man. But don't they have the... We're halfway through the season. I hate... This shit is fucking... This shit drives me crazy.

So at AFC, one CDVee Colts, followed by the Patriots, Broncos, Steelers. No reason why I love doing it now for this year, because usually when they do this halfway through the season, Jacksonville's never anywhere to be filled out. We're never on any of these graphics. You snuck in. And now we're on the graphics.

And you don't see Kansas City. So you see the... Wait until January. So question, does that mean New England plays Jacksonville the first week of the playoffs? Yes. Oh my God. What are you going to do then? I don't know.

Dr. Fax Bowl. My head might explode. Yeah, so will the Jags defense, man. But Trevor and the playoffs. AFC wild card right now is Mills, Chargers, Jags. And then NFC, one seed is the Eagles, followed by the Buccaneers, Seahawks, and Packers. That's a big one yesterday for the birds with the Packers. hackers losing that game.

So anyways, we'll stick in the AFC right now. We'll talk about Pittsburgh and Indy. Oh, Pittsburgh. They heard they held a funeral for their defense in the parking lot before the game. Oh, did they? And they took that very personal. That was, you know that gif of the soap opera actor pops out of the casket? And all the women are besides themselves in the front row.

That's one of my favorites. I was kind of like that. If they're going to have a fucking funeral for them, All the sudden. I've seen a meme. It said they held the funeral. Then they said the Steelers defense after they've seen that. And it's just one of the famous Undertaker ones when he just.

I wonder if word got to the Steelers. I don't wonder if word of their demise got to them in the pregame warmups that like outside they were doing a funeral for the. But all of a sudden they looked like a 120 million dollar defense. Like they suddenly looked a lot different. And I wonder how much of it is. Ramsey playing safety. In this game, I thought it was a big deal. But this was a note.

This is from Matt Harmon. Well, he took it from next gen stats. Never mind, Matt. Pretty interesting note from next gen stats in the Steelers defense. Use split safety coverage on 46.4% of dropbacks most of this season had entered the week with the second lowest split safety usage rate in the NFL. Ramsey aligned at safety on 84% of snaps.

First time in his career, he was over 30%. 30 percent. And he notes that Ramsey has struggled at corner this year and has had, has long been a potential late career move for him. It's kind of akin to the tackle moving to tight end or, you know, or the tight end moving to tackle. Tackle moving to guard. Tackle moving to guard. Martellis Bennett used to joke about, hey, you know, I'm just going to, I'm just going to change to tackle late in my career. But like Jalen Ramsey in the middle field, he's so instinctive. He's such a good top down player. Like when you see him make plays on the ball, top down he's always in the right position um and that puts him in that position and also when you play the colts like owning the middle of field is huge like pitman and uh and Tyler warren all those guys like when they manned up and they manned up more than anybody had manned up against indy all season long including Denver it's pretty fucking ballsy you know duggers in there on three days of practice playing safety next to ramsie um one thing about the steelers is and maybe we see this

match up again. They match up pretty well because of the size that they have in the secondary, Joey Porter Jr. Ramsey's a big physical guy. You can put him on a tight end and they have fastbackers in the middle. And in that game, the way the script supported their game plan, then it became a pass fest from Indianapolis. So I thought that it was just the kind of day they needed. Turnovers, six turnovers. They hadn't had one in a month. So only four on the season coming in. Let me play devil's advocate a little bit. Yeah.

Like not this shit on the Steelers, but six turnovers and you only win a game by seven points. I don't think this is sustainable. No. Okay. I just want you to know that on record. Because the hearing six turnovers, you would think that you won a game by at least three touchdowns. Well, it's not like the offense lit it up. No, yeah.

Okay. And, you know, this is closer to the vision they had for their team before the season. but that doesn't mean that every week it's going to be this way. I mean, I thought the edges in this game were extreme. I thought High Smith played as well as anybody on the field. He made some great plays. They went sim pressure a couple times, dropped into a zone, made a play. You know, early downs, the Colts throw the ball a lot.

And T.J. Watt had an early down strip sack. High Smith had one. The edges were keyed on that very thing. And they also made a lot of plays, knifing under pullers and that sort of thing. 24 and 27 points off of turnovers. Yeah. For Pittsburgh. So that means really there's the Steelers, their offense,

didn't do that much. No. But to win games, you've got to play complimentary football and to take advantage of scoring, like, when it is off of a turnover, that's what you kind of have to do. You have to do. That's what you have to do. Yeah, those turnovers are set up in short fields,

which was big for this Steelers offense, the way it's set up. Rogers' depth of target was three. yards. That's crazy. That's me to Tanner. Yeah, exactly. That's me to Tanner. Three yards. That's crazy. I mean, that's like check down merchant on steroids. No, I know.

And I think one guy that they could, and I've talked about how the tackle, the big, the big tight end thing has worked for them. Spencer Anderson, I think is the guy's name. 74, they put him over there next to Washington a lot, and that's been a thing. Like, they've been starting to run outside zone

more efficiently, and they're running a lot of stuff off. In this game, end up having to actually like with a guard down put Anderson in at guard so they're a little bit out of sorts. I also think this they found a I think they found something yesterday with getting washing in the ball. You know it's kind of crazy because he could be wearing a fucking tackle number but if he can catch the football like you can put that ball anywhere near his body. Yeah. And he's going to just be putting it on dude's heads man. It's just going to be like he you can't he's such a mismatch. Well that's what's interesting to be Chris. You're talking about a

match for a guy for the Steelers who's like an athletic specimen and you're like oh you're probably talking about dk mcalf now you're talking about darnel washington dude who had fucking six targets and dkate only had what four five he's getting tired of dk mcalf dude he's getting tired of the lack of attention he'd washington he needs to eat Washington's got to eat you got to find somebody that you can get the ball to because i mean it's just slim pickings especially if metcalf can't get going and that's the thing about metcalf he's kind of boom or bust and you know Washington can be the guy underneath. I mean, you know, mixed in with some targets to the other wide receivers, but I just want to explain something. The Daniel Jones pivot route that he threw the pick on,

this is interesting. I turned to Nolan when I saw it and I go, that didn't look right because you went on the pivot, but it was like Wilson stepped right in there. They're running that to beat man coverage, but they're running that pivot route right over where the back's going to exit the backfield. And so Wilson, who had a great game, is just standing there, keying Jonathan, and Taylor and he finds himself in that window. So, you know, some of these turnovers are explainable. You know, obviously you bring the Blitz and, you know, Wilson makes a play on the ball and it falls right in Sawyer's hands. I think that Indy will be better. I said this. When Indy loses and they look human, I'm not going to jump off the bandwagon. I think they're a good

football team. Yeah, I think those, you said the turnover is an aberration. I think, you know, they'll be able to flush that. And then, but one thing. that coming out of this game that I think Colts fans are a little concerned about is the defense. I mean, the offense has been so great this whole season. They've kind of been able to hide what's been an average unit across the board and getting set up in these short fields over and over. A lot of sudden change defense that damn broke for them. So I think I think that's a matchup that a lot of offenses in the AFC actually kind of like. That's the thing about like if they want to get to the bowl, who are they going to play in the playoffs?

The teams that they have to worry about in the AFC, you know, they already beat Denver, right? Casey, Buffalo. Casey, Buffalo. I think Kansas City and Buffalo score 40 points on this defense. And that's not to say that they're a terrible defense, I just think they match up well.

You know, if you're going to sit back and play zone, and you don't have two corners, and you don't have like, we talked about the rushers, I think Latu's come along. I like him. I like pay. The guys inside are great.

I too had three sacks, right? Yeah, but they could use a little bit more rush, in my opinion. And I've been saying that it's hard to back it up when guys make plays, but I think when it comes down to it, like they're going to have to, because of the rushing coverage balance, find a way to put more pressure on quarterbacks. So we'll see. I don't know.

That was a big win for the Steelers. Do I think it's fools gold? Not quite, but it is hard to sustain six turnovers in a fucking football game. So Denver and Houston. folks. Rounding out the AFC. Well, not rounding out. We still got, no, we're not flyovers.

Oh, my bad. Although this game, although this game, you could have circled the tarmac for a while because it was, now I will say this, like I put a lot of money on Houston. I gave out the under. We talk about money.

You got to be careful with that. Why? Because we were talking about a game with the legendary, you know, bounty hunter. So you got to be careful. Which one? You know, Champagne,

the coach of the Bronner. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, that was great. Greg Williams, my old coach. Oh, yeah. So, but so. He was there. But so I had, I had Houston, and I think I was right.

I really do. Davis Mills, well, we've had some moments, me and Davis Mills over the years. It just, there was a moment in this game where, tie the football game at 15. You guys have a great drive read and a great two-point conversion. Thanks. You're welcome. And not to mention the fucking Texans are on the one year.

They have first and one on the goal line. They have first and two on the goal line. They come up with six points net in those situations. It's like a recurring, you know, the movie saw how they made like seven or eight of them. There's like a million sequels to that shitty fucking possession I saw down at the goal line against the Seahawks four times. It's seriously, it's so ugly the way this team's built, and it makes it so hard on the quarterback, whoever's playing quarterback for them. But Davis Mills, tied at 15, missed three throws in a row at midfield. Who did he miss?

He missed Kirk on a seam on third down that like, you know. That was the one that was just wide open. It was wide open. He was wide open. He missed two other balls prior to that. Like he missed Woody marks in the flat. But like those are the moments where you just can't win that game with a backup quarterback, especially against that defense.

You can't kick field goals against them. I felt bad for D'Amico at the end of the football game watching the time expire because his defense played so well and they are so different at home. but the game management, the offensive output in the red zone. I mean, that falls on his shoulders as well. And I think also this, 114 to go, Denver's got two timeouts. You're backed up. Houston's got the ball.

So what are you doing in that situation, guys? You're going to focus on the first down first and make Denver use their timeouts. Complete the football, run the football. You're not going to punt it back with a minute to go, right? That's exactly what the fuck they did. They threw an out to the field. Davis Mills on first down threw an out to the field, dude,

against this defense. And then on second down, they throw an out, and they're out of bounds, dude. Five-yard gain out of bounds. So you're third and five. Denver hasn't used a fucking single timeout. You go incomplete checkdown, Zach Allen on the pressure.

Just a fucking disaster. And here's another thing. Noel, where did he go? All of a sudden, because Christian Kirk's healthy, you're going to take the guy off the field who's been playing the best for you. I missed it. Yeah, it's crazy, dude.

So let's talk about the Broncos who have won now. How many straight read? I think we're up to six. I think we're up to six. Very humble. Yeah, you know, just one of the hottest teams in football. Who's counting? The hottest team in the fourth quarter.

That's fourth quarter team in the league. Dude, Broncos point differential through three quarters minus one. Point differential in the fourth quarter plus 53. Don't see us in the fourth, fellas. That's crazy. You can just get to the fourth quarter. That is truly the game plan with this guy. Nolan said a couple weeks ago.

He's an ADD quarterback. Yeah. Yeah. He's a crisis. You know what they need crisis. Honestly, it's probably having to do with conditioning because you guys do practice all the time in higher elevation. And I would think more team.

You know, that's very interesting. You turn up in the fourth quarter while everyone's kind of out of breath. We're like, bitch, we do this every day. That's really interesting. You know what else they have? You know what else they have in all serious? since they have a run game to stay at it like we said this coming to the game the only place you're going to get yardage against this team is running up the middle and they did they had a game plan for the

rushers and the game plan was garib bulls on one side locked his side down that guy was fucking fantastic yesterday and and of all the guys in the NFL that you're like good for him when you look at his career trajectory great for it called him a bust early on he's on shitty teams it's almost like when your team's good everybody plays better and he's become a stalwart for them a decade long kind of blind side protector. He's great yesterday to the point where Hunter and Anderson are switching sides because Hunter's like, nah, you come

take this one over here. And here was the plan they had for Will Anderson. We're going to throw a lot at this guy. We're going to run the ball at him. And they did. And they slowed the rushers down enough. Their game plan early was take shots, maybe forced DPIs, flip the field because points were at such a premium.

They just stuck with the run game. They hit the shots eventually. Bo Nix was late. And here's the thing about the Broncos that like if I'm if do I buy them yeah I buy them but Bo Nix is going to hurt you at some point because he he sprays the ball he's a little bit late in crunch time and in some of those big moments but in the fourth quarter don't see us in the fourth when you play it at a mile high and you're in better condition and you're well coached so the schemes come back in the fourth quarter an offensive legendary offensive coach he's saving up his best calls for crunch time right and eventually

you hit some of those balls, and they have. To give credit to Bo Nix, he has hit those balls late in games. But I worry about the first three. Like, can you sustain playing this inconsistently offensively? Exactly. And there is going to come a game where it's where a one-score game where we're not going to come out on the top because we haven't built up such a lead early in the game.

It's happened all season. We haven't built up that cushion when we should have. One thing, though, that Bo Nix, like, baller in the fourth quarter, he hits it, but the last year you talked about it frequently, he would take sacks, he would bail early. He's worked on this hard. He is the best, he

only has taken eight sacks on the season. That's great. The best of all quarterbacks. So he's worried, and you see him improving at least in that, that area of que being. He had that drop pick where he was late down the middle, late as all get out. And then

that passed down the sideline, that was an interception. Those are just two things you don't want to see, and you see him pat his chest afterwards he's in my bad, my bad, that's on me. I love the guy. Yeah. They all love the guy. And I think he's a starting, he's obviously a starting quarterback,

and he's a franchise quarterback. You know, what do you define franchise quarterback? I define it as a guy you can get a five, seven-year run out of. Like, he's going to be, a certain generation of Broncos fan is going to grow up with Bow Nix as the quarterback. That's a franchise quarterback, okay? So I'm not saying he's a shitty quarterback. What I am saying is there are some things in his game that I want to see him

eliminate. it out. Now, now his legs with the game on the line, and part of that is a function of Houston's terrible rush lanes. The fact that they are so conditioned to move the pocket and bail to 14 and take shots, that created a situation late in the game where they're rushing four, and there's 30 yards between both ends. And, you know, you've got a defensive tackle bow. You know how this feels like in the middle of the field trying to cover 20 yards of ground. That's where they killed him. And, you know, obviously his legs are a big part of the equation, but I think defensively, Hufanga's been a huge addition.

He's been unreal. That guy makes it so hard to operate in the run in the past game. You know, the kickers, I mean, Lutz and Croshaw. We got to give love to Croshaw because yesterday, 53 and a half yards a punt. That guy's a fucking weapon. Two inside the 20. So, I mean, you know, like, I know you don't want to get a kickblock and that sort of thing, but I don't think Lutz has missed the game when a field goal in a long time.

I mean, that guy. It's been a minute. Yeah. He's been good lately, hasn't he? Oh, he's been great. the special teams mixed back, but the kicking game and crunch time pretty good. And, you know, another thing is, fucking Greenlaw shows up yesterday and makes some plays and kind of solidifies the middle of that defense.

27 snaps definitely helped out. It's great that we have depth of that position now at the inside lineback. We can kind of get three guys in there. But you talked about this as well. RJ Harvey. RJ Harvey, you said, I think, two weeks ago, I'd love to see more RJ Harvey. I'd love to see more RJ Harvey. Three straight receiving touchdowns, or three straight games with a receiving.

He's a weapon, and they flip the back to get him on toe-toe, and he runs right by him. Yep. I mean, it's just those little things where, you know, like, OCs that hunt matchups, not all of them do it. And that to me is like a big, big moment in that game, and they get it there. So, I mean, just a young guy stepping up. Evan Ingram got no burn. You know, Nick sailed the ball to him. That he almost got a paw.

He almost got a hand on it. You know, but and that hurt my fantasy team. Somehow I have like three Broncos receivers. It's a bad deal. But yeah, no, no. And Sutton didn't have to win all day. He just had to win once. Yep.

And he did. Mercedes Lewis shoutout, 41 years old. He pinned a block to spring J.K. Davenz. Yes, he did. Yes, he did. It was great. Great to see him out there. Good to see.

It didn't look like he had missed a day either. No. For Mercedes. It's so crazy to think that my, my rookie season, I was walking into a Jaguars locker room and just seeing this dude that looks like a goddamn basketball player, like his body type without seeing them in pads and everything. And just seeing that he's easily like one of the like the best like blocking tight ends like ever. And just to know that he's still in a locker room.

Strength, strength stays. I guess it does. It does. It does. If you're a strength player that stays. And it doesn't surprise me because he was the guy that's doing all these weird stretches. and these bands and all this stuff, 45 minutes after practice,

still in your pads. And you're just like, what are you doing? And he always be like, you got to take care of your body, man. He's got to take care of your body. I'm trying to play until 2025. Right? And here he is.

Still doing it. That's crazy, dude. What's the next step for the Texans? The next step for the Texans at this point is to try to figure out what's next. Sell, sell. I think the next step for the Texans is, and I was talking about them being buyers

had they found a way to win, you know, one or two of these games. but because it's like for the texas right now you can't you can't break that defense up right well go ahead and look at no you can't look at the now the one thing is you mentioned hunter what you have to do is figure out a plan how to just completely reshape that offensive line and part of doing that would be getting some draft capital for some of those guys that that's that's if you think cj stradger guy which i still think he is the guy they got to rebuild the o line in the next two years looking in all their capitals on their defense right now yeah for sure yeah but

But you know what? But they pick up a couple mid-round picks here today, if you can. You know, like. You know, like. Sheldon Rankin. Sheldon. That'd be a good one to get right out. No, here's, we brought this up.

Hunter. He's 30 years old, 31 years old, something like that. Is he affordable? Like our team's calling about him after yesterday. He's 31 years old. Like, you know, he's productive. but I don't see him being that way forever, right? He definitely gets some capital, though.

He gets you some capital. I think the thing is it's like, what good is an elite defense if you don't have an offense is like the question they're facing right now? Exactly. And over the next two years, it's like so that that question of itself is all the reason to break up the defense, in my opinion. And you don't have to break it up all the way.

You can find a young rusher. Yeah, totally. you can find another corner or something. And they have good depth. So I don't know. We'll see. It's sad to me that Houston has so fumbled this bag over the past two years because they were so ahead of schedule.

It's a cautionary tale for like the Washington commanders who, you know, the first year, the quarterback looks like, oh, he's good enough. We're going to be good no matter what. And then you just fuck around and you find out. That's right. Before we move, can I ask a question? about the Broncos to the group. Yes.

This isn't a troll thing. This is an honest question. Income and soul. About 10 months ago, this team went into Orchard Park in the wildcard round and lost 31 to 7 to the bills. How much better do we think this Broncos team is than that team? Well, there are Dre Greenlaw better defensively. And a Hufanga. And a Hufanga better.

So defense is slightly better. Defense is significantly better. I think a lot of that team also is, is you had, my bad. Long answer. Go, go, go, go. This is a Broncos fan right here. It's a real live Broncos fan. A lot of it, too, is, hey, that's a first playoff game for young quarterback, young receivers,

all those guys. They've had a full, more, a full season almost to this point of playing, getting more under their belt and being prepared for that moment. look at all the all the drives 40-quarter drives you know they're ready for those defense is outstanding and I want to love this team

because I love Reed but it's just like every week I watch and I'm like I don't know I don't know if they're any better but they have so much they have so much I mean we talked about their offense like and by the way like

going to Pat Brian on a big third down like he's gonna he's gonna be a guy for them but like I don't know that they're wildly talented outside and again RJ Harvey Harvey's fun and Dobbins is a good player, but they don't have a back that truly scares you in the tackle box.

Exactly. You know, like they have a good offensive line, and the quarterback's a little bit inconsistent. So, you know, the results are going to be variable. Could they win a playoff game against the bills? Sure, they could win a playoff game against the bills, but could they also lose like seven out of ten times? Yeah, because the results are so variable.

We just need one. Just need one. Just need one. You need one four times, though. That's the thing about this league. And I harp on that all the time. I talked about it last night. When the Eagles started 4-0, and just to show you I'm not just doing it to you,

and the Eagles started 4-0, I was the one being like, hey, man, I don't see good enough to think, like, hey, you're just going to walk into playoffs and win the whole thing again because of the inconsistency. You have to win four games in a row. And, of course, when I said that, I was like, oh, you're so fucking stupid. They're 4-0. But I'm talking about against four playoff teams, like, and I'm talking about, and they played some good teams to start the season, but you can't take halves off offensively.

You can't, it can't be an Edmund Flo thing. And so I have the same concerns with Denver, although I wouldn't put Philly and Denver in the same category. New England, Atlanta, Nate, your Super Bowl team. A. The New England Patriots. What did you see yesterday? I see a team that they need to, first off,

I want to give a hand clap to New England Patriots defense. Up front, run game. Hey, if you're playing against the Patriots, Just know your star running backs, they ain't getting shit on the ground if you hand the ball off to them. You better playing on dinkin, Duncan and throwing them a pass. Bejohn Robinson, we talked about it last week. He only 12 carries for 49 yards. And hearing that for Bejohn is absolutely crazy.

And especially in the game where they only lost by one point. Should have tied it up. Should have went to overtime most likely. But kicker, man. Godly. Kickers, kickers. But Atlanta has to make up their mind. like what type of team they're going to be like um they i think should have won this game and they

had a plan on defense that i felt like worked really well against drake may a lot of times he kind of looked confused and know like where he wanted to go and i think it was a testament to falcons was blitzing the shit out of them they had six sacks they had him running and flustered but the paths they just they they're a well-coached team this year. And I talk about it. We talk about every week. Vrable, I think coaching doesn't get talked about enough, but when you're in close games, I think that's the edge that, like, as fans, you might not watch or see. And you talk about this year, about situations and situational football. All that is based on your coaching and how much it's getting coached and how many

times you're putting these hypothetical situations during the week in practice or in camp. But Drake May, being a younger quarterback, that team, they just look very. very, very good and close. Hold on a minute, player. Hold on. Looks like we got some trades. Uh-oh. So Jerry Jones said the Cowboys made a trade.

He did not disclose who. Oh, my God, dude. He said on the trade, immediately, it will address some things that have been our shortcomings. Okay. Well, it's either pass rush or it's linebacker or it's, my, he went and got miles. Do you think? Are we saying he went and got, because he's doing this?

Is this worth my? No, what? No, because. Because remember, because remember they, so like, this is probably like a, if you went and got Miles Garrett, you'd just be like, hey, I just got Miles Garrett. But if you go sign Kaira, Elam in an agency, you know, or whatever, like, you kind of build a little intrigue because he's in the business of impressions. He's like basically a content creator. Me and Jerry have a lot in common. But like, what the fuck is this, dude?

I want to know who you traded for. The show ends at fucking five o'clock. So tell us, any guesses? It's going to be like Jacob Martin. No, are you going to be like Trey Henderson? Is that big enough to do this? Who's big enough to do this? Trey or Miles, right?

Everyone else is going to be like, Oh, Miles. Dude, I don't think, I don't, I got a hot take. I got a hot take. Or Crosby. Those are the three people. You know I love Trey Hendrickson, but I don't think Trey helps enough to make that move.

No, bro, trust me. Like, you've been talking about it at this stage. I don't either, but. I think you, If you're going to swing on a pass rush, you've got to swing big or you've got to swing a little bit smaller than Trey Hendrickson. You know, like, I don't know. Max Crosby. So Max Crosby.

Miles Garrett would be the blockbusters. You know, Jermaine Johnson would be kind of like, or Bradley Chubb, that kind of player would be. Jeffrey Simmons, I mean, sure, that would be, that would be a lot of fun. Yeah, but they got Kenny Clark in there. I don't think they're going to, I don't think it's going to be Simmons. It's going to be like. I don't think you don't make the trade because of Kenny Clark. They traded for a wide team.

I know, I'm just saying, like, they have bigger needs. Are you friends with Kenny Clark or something? I love Kenny Clark. I do, too. It's the last guy they're going to check with. They're going to be like, no, I know. I don't like him as much on the Cowboys defense, but, you know, I don't think anyone does. Is there a backer out there?

It's probably Logan Wilson. He said it immediately addresses our shortcomings, right? So it's definitely a defensive player, obviously. Yeah, it's either like Logan Wilson or. Or maybe it's DeMario Davis or something. About Devin Lloyd. Yeah, Devin Lloyd. Don't scare him.

Brandon Graham. Did I see something about Trey Hendrickson, though, on the timeline there? That was alleged. Oh, alleged. What are they alleging? Trey Hendrickson goes there for a first. Did I see a Packers player? That was like a hypothetical.

Who was the Packers player? They were keeping it around. got it the guy they acquired from for a micah park yeah got it got it what's his name kennie clark yes thank you they just try to get they just try to get micha back somehow so as we'll wait until jerry's ready to spill the fucking beans here jerry he's said on the show what you do is a little bit of my philosophy controversy i'm serious i'm dead serious not serial killing not that but controversy what dallas cowboys probably have some kind of interest that we have in no small part because we stay out front we stay controversial when again

get slow, I stir that shit up. In fact, I just want to be relevant. I just want you to be looking at us. Now, I don't think that has ever kept us from scoring a touchdown. I don't think it has ever kept us from having a football player. I don't think it has ever kept us from the financial wherewithal to get a football player. He'd make a great president, wouldn't he? Hey, that's a good point. It's kept you from the fucking line. It really is just about being talked about. All my antics should not, should not affect your performance on the football. field. I'm doing the selling, I'm selling the tickets. You guys go out and perform. It is just about selling tickets. Anyway, so we'll talk to New England. I thought, listen, a lot of run game yesterday.

Yeah, faxes are Jerry Jones. So, so I, I was impressed with the run game, a lot of insert, got on the edge in the second half, a lot of tight ends on the field. And then, you know, you had the little scheme wrinkles that I thought were a lot of fun, like Douglas out of the backfield. They get him on Walker. That's a real, oh, shit, moment. He ran Walker right into the camera guy. It's just a, that's a tough rep. So, you know, they have a big boy offensive coordinator.

They have a big boy head coach. You know, and obviously this game's not as close if Drake May takes care of the football before the half. This is a game where he looked a little more human. That is a good defense. Like, at times they played well. And up front, I thought the guys had trouble with movement, you know, on WENU had a tough day. struggle with movement and then defensively

Marcus Jones got picked on by Drake London but Drake London's a stud dude you know he was sensational he's a fucking stunt my gosh he had like a bunch of highlight real plays hat trick three tuds he moths to Christian Gonzalez

down the sideline on that on the drive to score before scoring that fourth and goal pretty wild sequence at the end of this one with the grounding thing that's being talked about a lot. So obviously it was grounding. Yes.

But the real controversy is around what happened pre-snap, right, with the clapping. That's Rahim Morris said after the game that he kind of tipped his cap saying the Pat's did a great job with situations of football clapping. It's just so hard to prove that was it Hawkins is not clapping to get somebody's attention? So I look at the All-22. To me, it looks like Jalen Hawkins claps. Now, to me, the clapping happens after Pitts goes in motion across the formation. I think he is trying to communicate a coverage adjustment.

There is plausible deniability there, and all the D.Bs are communicating. So, you know, I certainly think there's plausible deniability, but just because it's Rable and the history of that stuff with him, and then they asked him about it in the press conference, and he did like an all-shock thing, like, oh, I didn't see any clapping on film. I don't know what you're talking about. Well, he's the guy that, isn't he the guy that? Bill. They got Bill on, well, he got Bill on like the trick-dick clock management thing.

But he also, when I was on inside the NFL, we had this thing where I guess Bill was telling a story about like Vrabel simulating the snap count in a big game on defense. Maybe one of those Colts games or something. Okay. So he's always been a fucking a gamesmanship guy. No. As a player as a coach. The ball was definitely snapped early.

Like there's multiple, multiple indicators of that with like the guard. the right guard is still looking back at panics when the ball snapped. That's how Milton Williams got through Scott Free. Pitts almost didn't get across the formation in time with the motion. They almost snapped the ball right at Pitts's leg. So it was definitely snapped early, whether that was intentional or caused by the Pats. Who knows. But they were in plus territory after the completion of London.

That threw them out of plus territory. And they ended up having a punt late in the game. So Atlanta is kind of a shit show. And honestly, at this point, like Rahim Morris, I feel like his seat's pretty hot. Yeah. It just, the way they lose games, the inconsistency, the last, the lack of, I mean, they have an identity, but, you know, it kind of goes out the window when they can't run the football and so one-dimensional in that way. And then, and then the defense is so up and down, man.

You know, sometimes they'll make Drake May look confused, make Josh Allen look confused. And then sometimes the dolphins who smell like, smell like shit. Some of that smells. Well, yeah, they did. They did confuse Drake. But what hurt them in this game was you know the Patriots were like 8 to 12 on third down a lot of it was just short your age conversions like you mentioned getting into big personnel They had a fullback in the game and named Jack Westover sounds like a kid they called up from like Chote Rosemary Hall Showed Rosemary is that a real place? That's like a prep school right?

But he did a nice job and you know they got there like 21st personnel like 30% of the time or something so yeah That certainly helped them in the short yard it's just stuff and kind of kept them on schedule. All right. So we're out of the AFC. Those are some of the best teams in the AFC. Minnesota to Detroit turned into a really good football game. Bo, you were watching that one, weren't you?

Yeah. Yeah, no, I actually had a lot of fun watching this game, man. And I'm not going to lie, going into this game. I pull for the Vikings. Okay, I'm from Minnesota. It's always been fun to watch the bikes. I remember that. I was pretty hesitant on JJ McCarthy,

just because he hasn't played much. I didn't really know what to think, okay? I wasn't expecting a lot. And I thought he played a lot better than I thought he would. He had some really clutch passes. He had a sweet touchdown throw to Justin Jefferson who snagged it. But I think the real star of the show for me was the defense for the Vikings. They really made golf uncomfortable.

I thought B-Flo called a really good game. You've seen this so many times over the years with the mugged up double A gap pressures out of beef flow. And the Vikings are getting a lot healthier defensively. They're getting guys like Cashman back and Van Ginkle. And then offensively, they're getting Brian O'Neill back and Derracea. And obviously, their young quarterback. I think, you know, going back to JJ McCarthy, it's like I interviewed Nate Tice last

week. And he's like, yeah, they seem so hesitant to play their, you know, their first round rookie quarterback. And I'm like, yeah, man, you're right. But he was really good in certain moments of this game. I thought he was really good against. you know, the pressure. He did a really good job. Like, vet move, small things. You know, he hasn't played much, right? So you expect him to be uncomfortable against the Blitz. He did well

against the Blitz. Like, he checked out to, like, rocket screens and shit like that that, that I was impressed by. And then a really good moment at the end to throw a game, throw a ball in man to ice the game. I was impressed by J.J.A. McCarthy. But again, like, the Vikes defense looked really good. When this game started, like, I think LaPorta had like three catches in the first drive. He was eating. It had this thick touchdown.

And everyone's like, okay, here we go again. The vikes are about to get fucking cooked. And, you know, to the Vikings credit, they came out at the next drive, had a big return on kickoff return, short field. And then, you know, their offense came out and was cooking. Like guys like Aaron Jones, they got him back. He's going to be slightly banged up here for a little,

for a little bit, but I think there's actually a lot of hope here for the Vikings. Like it seems like they're getting healthier. I feel like we all kind of have the same consensus that COC is a really good coach. And this is one that I feel like the lines kind of let slip away. Like I don't think the lines necessarily played bad. They just didn't really look like themselves at times. Talking about them offensively, like the interior of their offensive line has been a little bit of an issue for them this year. They lost their guard.

Yeah, I mean, obviously, Ragnow retiring. They got Glasgow in there. And then they lost two guards in Mahogany and who's the other one? Tate Ratledge. So I think that's why a lot of those interior blitzes were hitting home for the bikes. Yeah, I mean, this was actually a pretty good game, man. I mean, I enjoyed watching it. I was impressed by the Vikings.

I was impressed by J.J. McCarthy. It didn't seem like the moment was too big for him and he seemed comfortable, which is, you know, to his credit, not what I was. expecting out of a guy that's not a ton of experience. For the Vikings, winning this game's great, right? But things right now are about the future. They're about like, hey, we just made a big decision.

We gave the guy who is playing like an MVP right now to Seattle. We have this great offensive coach. We've got one of the best receivers on the planet. We've got, you know, an elite number two, good tight end. Offensive lines getting healthy. Like, we want to feel like by the end of this season that we made the right move. and I thought there was a step in the right direction. The guy's won two road division games in his first three starts,

and he hasn't played great. Like, I didn't think he played great yesterday. He played fine. You know, there's balls over the middle of the field that, and Brady talked about this where he's got to get on top of the ball so it's not trailing. You know, he put one behind Naylor that ended up in a big. The one ball, the two ball, the three ball.

Yes. Brady would not shut the fuck up. You want Brady to shut the fuck up? I don't. But as you said, like the key, and he hit a lot of outcuts. the key for me was the defense and this is something that's more thematic and it's more relevant right now which is that Detroit is not the same group they were last year offensively do I still think they're an elite

NFC team yeah if they don't have a million penalties in this game if they don't shoot themselves in the foot like they might win it and and I'd hate to be a lion this week like fly on the wall later is going to be the lions players this week just getting flogged at their at their place of employment because fucking Dan Campbell's he's going to be full pads like every day. But I think the thing that's concerning is the run game, 65 yards on 20 attempts, five sacks, Gibbs gave up like seven pressures. You talk about some of those like cross dog pressures that they had

and Eric Wilson was huge in this game, but nothing bigger to me than Van Ginkle coming back. I think, you know, I made this argument before about him defensively, one of the most under the radar MVP type players on his defense. imagine you've got a playbook and it's fucking this thick. How thick is it when Dallas Turner's playing on the edge for you? And how thick is it when Van Gogh is on the edge?

And part of that is because of personnel limitations, but also, you know, Van Ginkle's a veteran and he knows how to play in Flores's defense. And you talk about the screen game, they fucking killed the screen game yesterday, 14% success rate on screens, third down, average distance, 7.5 yards. So early down troubles for them, really bad, 20% success rate on first and second down.

Only team worse yesterday in the NFL was, anybody got a guess on early downs? The Houston Texans. The Houston Texans. So that's just bad company to be in. And I think there is something sustainable if you look at the Vikings because I think they gained some ground schematically. Ben Johnson's down there putting up 50 points on, it is the Bengals. But the bears are one of the most productive offensive teams in the league. Morton, who is not a terrible OC, who's grown on the job, is not Ben Johnson.

And the interior offensive line is not the interior offensive line of yesterday. And you lose mahogany. Like, I do have concerns about, and they're the same concerns I had to start the season. You know, this interior offensive line and Jared golf, the way he'll look if he's got pressure at his feet all day, which is what they decided to do was blitz the fuck out of the middle of the pocket. Not to the degree that they even do in most games, but it was. the timely blitzes.

You know, I thought, like, beating man coverage from J.J. McCarthy was huge. This is just what happens, man, in the NFL. It's like, it's hard to keep groups together, and I'm not putting the lines to bed or something, but they have to hit the curveball on some of these personnel issues they have up front. Another thing is, you bring in Tesla, he's caught three balls this year or something, dude. It feels like, like, how much production does he have? you got to find a way to get him the football he has like three touchdowns on like five catches or something crazy like that so so your point you're gonna say get him involved more get him

involved more um and and then with um and ross amin ross st brown i have a theory because you know he's the sun god he dropped two balls yesterday uh is it is it a fall back thing there's less sun so he so he's like solar powered i don't know but he dropped two balls yesterday he dropped one in the end zone You never see him drop footballs. This was not their best day at the office, huh? He had like a bad drop like the previous game also. Dude, he's pretty automatic. I just thought that wasn't his best day.

And it wasn't Detroit's best day, to be fair to them. The drop two balls when they had the awesome bobble day for him. Did you see the bobble heads they have for him? It's him doing that upside down stand like headstand. Yeah, yeah. Reverse bobblehead? Oh, did they really? That they gave out.

Oh, wow. It's fire. That's actually pretty. cool it is three uh sorry go ahead no go ahead three receptions on six targets for tesla this season and as we're talking about this with the scheme stuff i wanted to ask you guys when you guys were playing did you did you feel like your indivision games your opponents knew you best schematically like i feel like that's what we've seen now with the lines yes the worst they looked was week one against green bay and then this game here where you're playing you know indivision teams who

are studying you all offseason because they know it's a division game game dude you know and and the reason last year was that they got after him late in the season is like you know they their offensive line was really banged up they played man coverage and they blitz fucking uh sam darnald and he looked like a totally different player like you know this offensive line's got a little bit more healthy darisaw's out there as we mentioned um you talked about checking out of a pass to go to the screen on the edge and fries decletes somebody like the screen game was better like they're just i don't know man like i usually i watch detroit play and there's a certain physicality about them and I just didn't see that yesterday in the run

game offensively and honestly it's also a credit to KOC because we saw Grizard two weeks ago get the same man coverage the same guys off the street and guys that you know are supposed to be debt pieces and they were strapping because Baker was missing throws and but KOC scheming guys up and and I thought you know like in that right JJ made the throws so it was a good day for for minnesota it's not over for for detroit at all no they're a fucking good football game but they're not as as good as they were last year get right we next i was gonna say going for detroit detroit going to washington is no yeah yeah the revenge game they're gonna score 55 they're gonna fucking murder in the first half they're gonna murder them uh but going back

i think it is an interesting point noel uh just your division opponents and like without ben jonsonceton like the lions are not they kind of like know what they are they know that you know what they are and they're going to commit to it which is like if you out physical them or if you like play their game you know what i mean like you can beat them with scheme i thought that's where uh brian for us did such a good job with those blitzes just attacking like you know the weak part of their offensive line and that kind of thing um you know just what you said chris we're not writing off the lions for dead or anything like that, but it is a shitty way to lose to a division opponent. Because it's a game you could have won, even though you didn't play your best.

And I guess on the other side of the coin, for Vikings fans, the big question is like, do we have our guy in JJ? And is this kind of one of those wins similar to Jackson Dart and Scadaboo with the Giants on Thursday night? Like, is this a win against a division opponent that we can use to like galvanize our team headed down the rest of the stretch? I'm not, I'm not sold on that. No. We'll see.

I'm not fully sold on JJ. No, I'm not yet. but at the very least in a moment he was a gamer and it was good for him to get a win because people you know people really young quarterbacks i don't know if it's the fact they get paid a lot of their quarterbacks are like you know fans will will jump on the hate train and and it gets kind of personal and um you know he took a lot of shit after the way the season started so it was really good for to see him coming up with a win but here's a team that's you know 500 now and the Vikings. I got a team who's above 500 and just beat the number one team in the in the NFC at a

moment and nobody's talking about them. It's the damn Carolina Panthers, man. Panther 16, Packers 13. Who else? Who else? You and me? You watched it too? Okay. So what I think is so interesting about this game is like number one, Carolina is an underrated football team. They really are defensively. They throw a lot at you on the back end. Like the coverages are hard. to diagnose. You know, there's a lot of zone, but it, but it all looks kind of muddy. They dropped a lot of dues yesterday. And I think, you know, good in the run game, solid in the run game.

You know, Derek Brown, hell of a player, super underrated, made some big plays yesterday. Wharton was a stud yesterday as well. I love Morrig, the guy they got from Vegas. He made a big play on a, on like a little RPO down the red zone. Brown followed it up with a pressure. And, you know, Bryce Young's my prince, he's a little man. He's throwing into a headwind. You know, he's not going to be perfect out there in that weather.

Okay? And, you know, to the Packers fans who were like, we didn't get a sack. We had like one sack or something. The Packers, they play down. Well, but the ball's out. You know, the ball's out. There's probably Michael Parsons said it after the game. It's probably 10 true dropbacks in that game.

And as a rusher, I've been there, so I know what that's like. And I can honestly tell you, I'm not worried about the Packers pass rush. What I am worried about is I'm worried about the Packers' offense. And, you know, everybody's going to say, oh, shocker, they scored, you know, 13 points in this game. I think they've got issues. And one of the issues that they have is obviously losing Tucker Kraft. He was kind of like the centerpiece of this offense. I think they've missed Jaden Reed a great deal underneath.

I've talked about the fact that, like, you know, you bring on Matthew Golden. You're trying to make him the Jaden Reed and in his absence a little bit, but like he's not that guy um you know christian watson's not that guy wicks is a good player but he's not that guy underneath um you know craft is the is the rat guy craft's the guy who you know you can dump him the ball for four yards and he can take it for 30 they don't have that anymore and they're also a group that likes to get big and they're a group and this is what drives me fucking crazy about them um so i i don't want to make i don't want to make this game like bigger than it is because they lost craft and they lost golden but there's a there's a pattern with these guys um they're fourth in the

league in yards per play of 5.8 yards per play but they find themselves sleepwalking in games early and a lot of them are at home which is a funny thing they failed to exceed 10 10 first half points in five games this year unless i fuck this up four of them were at home and i think they play too slow and i think it blows up in their face on like a drive like the first one where they take eight minutes off the clock and they get in the red zone and williams fumbles the football. You know, or a team that runs a lot on first down, which they do when they take a negative on first down and they get in second and long.

Those guys heated them up yesterday on second down. That was where the Packers lost the game was on second down, taking pressures on second down. So you can kind of see like their drives are like houses of cards, man. And, you know, they're so talented. But at the same time, the longer their drives go. Like, for instance, their second possession yesterday started in the second quarter. So you do all that, you fumble the football, and then you get three possessions in the first half. So, like, I'm all about playing slow and playing keepaway, but when you're better than your fucking opponent, like, put your foot on the gas pedal a little bit, go tempo, spread them out.

Now you're going to have to. Maybe this is going to actually force them to get into some lighter sets. But I think they're a better pass blocking group than a run blocking group. Like, they need to be a little bit more pass first. You know, they're conservative. They were conservative before the half. Then they get down low in the red zone on third and three, you know, on the eight, and they throw a fucking screen pass for five-yard loss.

And then they go on fourth and eight. And, you know, it's like Dallas. Remember Dallas? They're aggressive before the half. They give up a strip sack. So like they're kind of too aggressive there. And then at the end of the game, in overtime, they're conservative as fuck. It's just like Lefleur, there's no rhyme or reason.

I'd like to see them generally be more aggressive. Does Jordan Love need to play better? Fuck yeah. I don't know where he's throwing that football. But I look at the route. on this team. It's a lot of fucking verticals, man. And, you know, they're kind of a boomer bus team or they're just going to move the ball down the field slowly. And unless you're perfect, which they've shown, they are not a details team. They're a young team. They're going to wreck drives

and they're going to limit possessions. And if you're one of the top five offenses per play in the league, you need to be running more plays, not less plays. So to me, you need to, in the, in the aftermath of losing Tucker craft, speed things up, be more aggressive, some lighter sets. When Jaden Reed gets back, that will change things. But you need to make a trade for a tight end. You do. And the names that we came up with last night and you guys take a vote, maybe the people in the chat can take a vote. In Joku, that's my favorite. Ertz, um, pits, Nolan threw out pits and there was one more. I believe Schultz. Oh, there are tight ends available right now. And, uh, you know, Musgraves breakout. Well, it would help if Jordan Love saw him

on the first fucking play of the game where he's wide open and he'd still be running. So like, I don't know, man. I think they need a tight end. You still want to be in two tight end sets, but they need to pivot a little bit at this point because they're going to keep getting the same results. The chat.

Because we talked about this like what maybe last episode, episode before, but I just feel like for Green Bay that Tucker Craft's injury was one of those in-game things where maybe like all those guys are like really like cool with him. And I feel like that probably threw them all. just being like, dang, like, our guy, like, just had career game, three touchdowns in the game, and they know how valuable he is.

And then to see that and have that excitement only for a week and then to see him down on the field and kind of know, like, oh, he's probably gone for the season. I feel like that might take a lot out of guys. But I don't know what the fix is to that in the moment or to try to get guys back on track, but it's just something that is interesting. And it's just like. I just don't like the way they run their own. offense man I just don't and and I understand you've been dealt a tough hand with Jaden

Reed you know in the collarbone the the two games where they were they were great script early in the game was the first two games of the season since he's been gone since you've been gone it's fucking it's super it's super unpredictable and like when you go on long drives you understand what I'm saying you eat up the whole clock and then and then you even the playing field yeah if I'm better I want to I want to be on the field and I want to run a bunch of plays well and Piggy back and off your point if they do go more tempo you know looking at those tight-end options nojoku or sholts guys who can block pretty well too they would fit that personnel

yeah well yeah if you're going to stay on the stay on the field with that personnel group whether it's 11 or you know what about the panthers right now panthers being what were you thinking about if you're if you're them like are the panthers are the thurs are the thurs good enough to buy dude that's all I was saying like and and with someone like dowdo playing the way he is Do you think there's any value? I think, I think, I think, I think, I think Hubbard's trade bait. He barely got the ball yesterday. Yep.

Yeah. So I think Hubbard ends up somewhere else. And the Panthers are three and oh when Dowdo gets the ball 20 or more times. And they won that game yesterday. And when he got the ball more than 20 times and Chuba only got the, got five carries. So that's probably indicative to say in that. I mean, they don't have any, they don't have scary edge rushers. Mm-hmm.

They get young guys. It seems like a defense with dudes who do their job. They're well coached. And in coverage, they made the Packers earn it. And that's the whole thing is like the Packers, they're going to go on these long drives and eventually make a mistake. The Packers need to get on their shit.

They're a young team. They're off the details. And I don't love the scheme. I don't love a scheme offensive. Packers are always. Look, you're two. Oh, no, no. It's Josh.

So, yeah, the Panthers and Kansas City, they got the same record. They, Spider-Man. I know. I know it's crazy, right? Right now. It's also going to show you how different. Make the playoffs?

No. No. Well, no, they have a chance to make the playoffs, but I think where you're trying to go is, do you think that the, like they're the same team? Do the Panthers have a chance to get in the playoffs? So they're ninth right now. The Tennessee South is weak.

What's their schedule look like coming up? Let's see if we can get the Thursday, my childhood team here with my prince. Oh, look, easy win next week. They host New Orleans next Sunday. day. Well, they, okay. So they go. I thought you were saying they played the Jags. So week 10, Saints, then they go.

Week 10, Saints, then week 11, they go at Falcons, week 12 at 49ers, and home against the Rams, week 13, by week at Saints, home Bucks, home Seahawks, at Bucks. I see two more wins for sure. The problem is week 16 through 18. Yeah, no, it's, listen, they might put themselves in position to be in the thing, but. But I don't know, man. It just feels like they're not quite scary enough offensively outside. And, you know, I don't know that they have the pass rushers to scare you defensively.

Like, is it, I think even most, most Panthers fans would say they're not offended when I say, like, could they get in? Sure, but like, do they expect it? Do I expect them to make noise in the playoffs? No. Right. And honestly, anybody want them to actually get in? I mean, I kind of do. It would be fun.

You see playoffs Playoff baits Playoff baits running up and down the sideline would be electric Yeah it would be electric Can you imagine Bryce Bryce run a regulated Yeah but it's not even off the team dude

Arrowhead and it's like 9 minus 10 Poor guy The The Panthers are just the second NFL team Since 1970 to have a winning record Through nine games despite being an underdog In every game It's pretty awesome

Packers are 0 in two in games When they're 11 point or more favorites. I told somebody, somebody, somebody texted me. Definition of playing with your food.

Right. I told somebody, somebody texts me, they said, hey, put these three teams in a teaser, they're not losing. Two of them,

Detroit and Green Bay lost. And I also, I warned the dude about Green Bay because it's just too many fucking points. I mean, if you're looking at

take a side, but like, you saw what they did against the Browns, dude. They just, when you put everything on the,

line playing slow the gravity of the the big plays becomes even bigger and they're not automatic enough in those moments so all right Chicago Cincinnati way more fun this is the drunk game of the day dude I got some I got some stats to start this yeah so listen to this kickoff return for a touchdown a blocked field goal a blocked field goal an onside kick for outside kick 500 yards of offense Two receivers with 100 plus receiving yards, 15 points in less than a minute, 42 total points, and you still lost. Like the bangles, the bangles, the bangles. Fry them, dude. You've been trying to save them.

You've been slowly pulling their grill. No, we put them on the grill. You put them on the grill. You helped them off so many times, bro. You really have. I know, but like you're talking to me this week, not me three weeks ago. Okay, I got you. Like, you know, like, this isn't a gotcha moment. I bet the bears I put in there's evidence of this.

Can you show the video, actually? There's evidence. So before you try to take a victory lap on me, like Chicago fans yesterday when I tweeted, I hate the bears, they're all illiterate. They don't read sarcasm. Why would I type, I hate the bears after they blow a lead in the fourth quarter unless I like the bears today? Like, I got Bears fans taking victory laps in my fucking mentions, guys.

I bet on your team. Pull it up. Pull it up. This was the, uh, Bears fans right now are, they're, they're like in that political class of football fans.

They're like, they're so into their quarterback or so against their quarterback. They're all emotional. Someone was coming at my vertical leap. Yeah. I was just hype. I was just hype.

Because I had Bears minus two and a half. And you know if you watch the game. That strut coming back. You had a strong strut. Chess was out. Oh, chest was out, bro. I was hyped. Man, I was hype.

That saved my bacon, man. Colson Loveland. Look at us showing freeze frames of the play because the NFL is going to like fucking arrest us. All right. That was such a nice ball too from, uh, that was so nice. It was like right on the money between like four dudes, like with timing. He threw a couple of those yesterday, man. And you knew coming in, they were going to have time.

And if he has time, he's just going to kill you late in the down, dude. And you don't have the cut. coverage guys behind it and the run game man the run game was the thing that made me feel like through much of the game no matter what they were going to get the ball last to win now they fucked the whole game script up and that's what worries me about the bears is like their corners are trash and and they gave up a million yards yesterday but like i i just the run game was a sight to behold and and i've been on this thing uh talking about darn out right i think he's i think he's the second coming to Pena Soule. I do. I think he's that good. What he did to Shemar Stewart on

fourth and one should be illegal. There's a couple baptisms. Public transit, brother. He woke up on the other hash and was like, how did I get here? And so that dude's a dog in the run game. The Munung guy, like 40-yard or late in the game, which was huge. Even though it got real messy. It's behind Darnel Wright. The guys, a stud. He cartwheeled on the touchdown. Did you see that? Yeah. Bro, like the guy's just a big grizzly bear and they run behind him. Menonga is really good. I don't want to say that it's like he's the back now because they were playing Cincinnati. That's another thing with Cincinnati. The NFL should hire Cincinnati to

continue to be this way because their defense makes one game a week super interesting. Like the Jets last week scored 50 points, bro. You got Breeze Hall throwing touchdown passes to Like, I forget who. You have your guys walking out the game saying one stop. There have been five games this season where an offense has had 500 plus yards. Three of those games have been against the Bengals defense. And the Bengals defense is the first team since the 1960s to score 38 plus points back-to-back games and lose both. It's crazy.

It's one of the most lobsidedly built teams. The other ones, the Texans. You want to see what the version of this team. Flipped is, the Texans. The league should subsidize the Bengals so long as they don't spend any money on defense. No, just keep it that way. Just keep it that way, dude. Those owners are so cheap.

Just pay them to keep the defense shitty because it is entertaining. Like every week you're going to get like, and I don't know what bookmakers do with this team. Like there's no number that's safe. Nope. Like, you know, it's going to be 40 plus. Bet they're over. Every fucking week. So, man, there was a picture I tweeted yesterday.

If you could pull that one up, I don't tweet a lot, so you could probably find it. It was after the Loveland touchdown. This is the most unbelievable sign. And the guy was like holding it proudly. Yeah, I will. Oh, my God. I will not miss tackles. I will not miss tackles.

I will not miss tackles. Look at him. Yeah. And I think, I think honestly, across the board in NFL, we kind of have, like, and it's something I feel like talking about with ex-players, we kind of have a problem with tackling, like right now. And it's something that as the season gets later in the year, tackling's probably going to get worse because not too many teams are trying to strap up and really go full-speed tackling during the week.

And it's something where sometimes guys, you might need a refresher on tackling and angles and getting guys down. And right now it's like it's hard to do that in practice. you don't want to lose someone on something cheap, like practicing. But you see situations where guys are just literally not even trying to tackle. Like I say it all the time, I hate this shoulder bump shit. Yeah. Like, bro, wrap up.

Like, wrap up. Like, that's some wild stuff. Like, it almost, like, I'm almost like at the point now where I think guys, like, you should have some type of monetary fine if you're back there and you're risking just throwing a shoulder tackle instead of trying to tackle. Because it's just like some guys have. be playing for free. Maybe and maybe that'll stop you because like there's no reason why you should not be trying to tackle or wrap up, especially now a lot of times when you do do when you do just throw

that shoulder it ends up in a penalty anyway. Yeah. Like it ends up in a penalty anyway. So it's like just wrap up and that's how it should be coached from now on. I don't know if it'll help a situation, but I know in that situation at the very least if you try to wrap up, you're tripping, you're tripping leveling up and he's not going for that touch. You should show up at their facility and just tackle guys in the parking lot outside the lobby. Office linebacker with Terry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Engels.

Joe. You mengles defense missed 15 tackles yesterday, 133 total yards. They entered the game yesterday with 94 missed tackles and 64 yards, both most in the NFL. But here's what I do want to say. The Bears are going to win a division at some point in the next few years. because I know it's just the Bengals and you know I've been the first one to tell you when he hasn't played as well as you wanted him to play

or when he you know when he hasn't been as quickly the guy that you thought he would be but like he's Caleb's good man he's a fucking he's a stud okay so I look at like that division and I understand Jared golf's really accomplished Jordan Love's really talented JJ McCarthy's young and like but there's no reason if you're a Bears fan

like you might actually answer the question who would you start a franchise with right now? And you might say Caleb Williams without being a homer. Like he has a lot of upside. And, you know, if you look at the jump, you know, Ben Johnson, you mentioned the creativity. There was a play where Cole Comette comes under center

and takes a snap, throws it to Caleb Williams. He throws it back to Cole Comet and Cole Commet throws a crosser. He hits a crosser. Like that guy played quarterback at some point. Lefting dark. I'm being careful about this. not saying he's better than Jared golf. I'm not saying he's better in Jared golf. But we do this thing

where like if the guy's not there yet, that's who he is. I think he's going to keep getting better. I think Caleb Williams is going to keep getting better. I'm not, I am the one that said pump the breaks last year. They're not going to win 10 fucking games the first year. This kid is talented as he was in college and not playing on time. Like he's not going to all of a sudden play on time, especially in that offense. Shane fucking Waldron. Okay. And, and, And play with all that dysfunction, the end-of-game antics in Detroit where they fucking blow the whole game, it's obvious that was the tip of the iceberg. It was a bad situation.

This year the situation's improved. This team just needs to work on the roster now and on parallel tracks just continue to improve the quarterback. At some point soon, the Bears will win a division in that division. And that's not to say Detroit doesn't have control of it or Green Bay isn't the best roster right now. But if you're a Bears fan, like at some point you're going to be. happy. And you're probably already happy because this beats the fuck out of everything else you've been looking at the last 15 years at quarterback. And the Jay Cutler era was fun, right? Yeah, well, but you'd be lying to yourself. You're not telling me this guy's got to,

he has some ability that maybe you haven't seen under center in Chicago in a long time. Well, and he makes those plays when shit gets weird. Everything pops out and, you know, he's running for his life and he tosses a 90-mile-an-hour fastball along the sideline 15 yards. But then when you want them to make an easy-ass checkdown, he's got to get more consistent. He's got to get more consistent. He's got to get more consistent. It's crazy.

It's like, it's a regular pass that ends up into a hospital ball just because you can't just place it like gently where you need to versus having your guy have to jump up and susceptible, susceptible to the type of. I don't know. I just, you know who sprays some throws sometimes? Mahomes sprays some throws sometimes. Like there's guys that miss. but what they pay you for is the plays that nobody else can make.

And so, like, I'd rather have the guy with the upside that I'm like, man, he can make some plays that nobody else can make. We got to fix the fixable stuff. I was just saying on top of all this stuff with the quarterback improving, this run game is top five in efficiency in the whole league. That aspect of the Ben Johnson vision has really taken shape to. and only midway through the first season there. So it's going to keep ascending for sure. And I mean, yesterday you saw, though, the one thing they can do a little bit better at

is find their number one ride receiver. They need to keep attacking the one, because when they didn't, they didn't do very well. Caleb Williams, their number one wide receiver, only had a touchdown in two receptions in 18 yards. But they find him more. Yeah, Caleb Williams. I got it.

I'm just his laugh. I'm like, what's going on? Well, because I told him earlier, and he was like, oh, I get it. It's a joke. Yeah, yeah. He was looking at me like, got you. I'm like, what?

No, so, I mean, right now they're not, they're not a team I see making a deep run, but like they're building something. So, all right. So I think it is time to hop in the cockpit, fellas. But first, as we load the plane and say hi to everybody on board. Let me say how to bet MGM. Yeah, everybody. Welcome aboard.

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Mac Jones. I mean, this game went pretty much as expected. I mean. That line stunk. It was a stinky line. Niners, a ton of success running the ball, especially on the perimeter, which you can do against the Giants defense.

We've seen teams be able to get out and force these corners to tackle. Either you do some pin pole stuff, pin the end, wrap a tackle around. That corner's either got to set an edge in space or he's got to make a tackle in the back with a full head of steam. They averaged four yards,

over four yards per carry across 39 attempts. That's outstanding. Another good showing for Mack Jones. It's, you know, him and this offense, man, it's like he found a soulmate. It's just like, it's just meant to be. Like he's playing super steady, super efficient,

doing enough to win ball games. And, I mean, on the Giants side, I was a little disappointed with the Giants offense. I thought with, you know, the past rush and San Fran being what it is, I thought they'd be able to score a little bit more. But, you know, third consecutive two and seven star for the Giants, I think that building, everybody in that building

is starting to know what time it is. Dude, when is enough enough with the injuries with San Francisco? Michael Williams tears his ACL. Brutal. They have no pass rush, not like he was really helping a lot in that phase of the game. They get Keon White,

but it's like, okay, as soon as the reinforcements arrive, then Mikel Williams is out, who's been a really good run player. Yep. You know, it's just like how many injuries can they sustain? Yeah, when this happens,

like, is it like all the strength and conditioning and your nutrition and just has to take the bite the bullet and just switch them out? Because like, when you see this many injuries, Like does it like factor to something?

I mean it definitely there can be like correlation. There can also be bad luck, you know? Yeah, for sure. Yeah, I wonder if like the physical style of play, you know, the run game like lends itself to that sort of thing. But there's also been injuries outside and there's been guys that get hurt, you know, non-contact shit. And like so I don't know.

It might just be, it might Levi's Stadium was built on like a burial ground or something, dude and honestly that stadium sucks yeah i miss candlesticks so much um with him but but yeah like uh if you're the niners man there's just so much good news bad news you keep finding ways to win games solid being back is huge i that's a guy that i'd love to play for like he just he's just the kind of guy that you know all you know him is from tv and seeing him coach and at the podium but like he's a guy that that that you'd love to just to just be on his team like and i think those young guys because they play for them. And Shanahan's a great offensive mind.

Look the way Mack Jones looked. You talked about it. So they're going to be in some games, but I don't know with all the injuries, man. If a team can make them kind of more one-dimensional, a lot of the Texans, hmm. Now, there's only a couple of Houston Texans' defenses walking around,

but like pull up their schedule real quick. They play the Rams. Yeah, I want to see when they play the Rams in the Seahawks again. Has teams ever, wait, I'm sure it has happened. Has teams ever traded for a guy in one season and got them back, like a big name trade? Like, is there any way Debo could find his way back to Sanfran? I mean, it's possible. Is it possible?

Is it possible? Is it possible? I didn't know that. Within a certain amount of time. I think it's a year or something. I wonder. I don't know what the specifics are with that. That's interesting.

You just don't see it a lot, obviously. But here was quite an interesting tweet that I got to check. This is from Tommy G. 105. He's an analyst and podcaster for giantscountry.com and it almost reads like satire, but I think it's true. Brian Burns storming out of a locker room last night, didn't talk to the media.

Deontay Banks running out the back door through the bathroom with his pants at his ankles, didn't talk to media. The entire team leaving the locker room in record-breaking time. Dexter Lawrence has been despondent all season long. Wondale Robinson, I'm sick of this shit. Ganoe snapping or,

reporters while bragging about his warm-up kicks. This is what a losing team looks like zero accountability. I don't know. It sounds pretty believable that Deontay Banks running out of the back door through the bathroom with their pants at his ankles is kind of a wild deal. Why do they need to include that detail is the question? I just want to say this though. Brian Burns should win DPOI and I said this yesterday and the guys brought up the obvious good point which is that his defense sucks. But Shane Bowen's not his fault. And honestly, like, you know, I'm biased as a guy that play defense on some bad teams. Like, it's not easy to make plays on a bad team where you don't have leads and that sort of thing.

Like, he has been so consistently dominant in the past, in the run, creating negatives. I hope he's, I hope if the season ended today, facts, I think he's DPOI. Like, who are you going to put over him? Miles Garrett for the same reason. Miles Garrett for the same reason. Then you give it to him every year because he's just the deep-old. best player i know but that's what i feel like people will say because their defense i don't think is trash no they're not oh me they're actually yeah their defense is way better their defense yeah

their team's trash they're not they're not playing with a bunch of leads yeah but but i don't know dPO pull up the dpo why uh because this is a funny year it's a down year anybody can win miles is up there hutchinson's up there yeah um my guys benito obviously with how well that defense plays But how many interceptions does a linebacker have to have to have to have in a season for him? Devin Lloyd is not going to win DPOI. That's hate, bro. It's not hate. I'm just like, I can say I'm going to play in the NBA in a week.

But that's why I. That's hate, bro. I'm playing the NBA. Like this, like how many, okay, how many interceptions would a linebacker have to have for you to be like, okay? Well, it's not just the interceptions. Yeah, that's everything. You know, that'd be like how many tackles is a linebacker supposed to have? In that case, like, and I love Zire Franklin, but he had won DPOI.

It's not. just about the stats like you know he could have 12 picks but if Fred Warner's breathing Fred Warner's winning DPOI if it's going to a linebacker so I I'm looking at the odds right now so got skunk for a game he's still top well actually I'm not looking at the odds right oh I am looking at the odds Michael Parsons plus 170 nothing miles Garrett plus 250 when are people going to realize though that when a great rusher has no pressures and he's not playing a dominant an offensive line, it's probably a function of the game plan. So like, Micah Pars is plus 170, Miles Garrett plus 250,

Aidan Hutchinson plus 400, Will Anderson plus 900, Benito. Bro, can we stop? How is Jared Verse have half the odds that Brian Burns has? Where's, where's Turner? His four sacks. I mean, I'm saying, your whole career you're told production I love the guy. He's a fucking rolling ball of butcher knives.

I totally agree with you. But Brian Burns has got plus 3,000 odds. He's got plus 1,600? 11 sacks. Burns has 11 fucking sacks, dude. You can't just move the goalposts when it's not a player that you had lined up to win the award.

That's just fucking crazy to me. Brian Burns on this list is. Byron Young's on this list. Byron Young is Jared versus teammate, and Byron Young has 10. That's what I'm saying. Where's Young? Yeah. I don't know. We have to start the campaign. Is it a popularity contest? Is everything a popularity contest? Okay. appears it could be. I'm just, I'm pissed on account of Brian Burns right now, dude. I don't even know the gentleman. And I'm mad like I know him.

The 49ers, they see the Rams in week 10, then the Cardinals. Carolina, then the Browns in week 13. They have a buy week 14. Then they finish with the Titans, Colts, Bears, and Seahawks. And you cannot. Run that, put that back up, please. Enhance. All right.

So you got Vegas? Or you got home against L.A. At Arizona. Versed Carolina. At Cleveland. Boy, they could keep winning. They got Tennessee. I think they could play with Indy.

I mean, Indy's going to score 40 points on them, but maybe they'll score 35. Chicago, Seattle, I mean, like, yeah, I'm never going to count the Niners out, just out of respect. Do I think they can win the bowl with this roster? I think it would be really hard. I think people would Swiss cheese them in the playoffs. Is that Yuc ever coming back this season?

Is he supposed to, maybe? I think he's going to be back at some point. But, I mean, even if they split the rest of the way, that's 10 wins. Yeah. And the NFC is tough. It's just going to be tight, you know. Because that's not going to get a done in division.

I think my hawks are winning the damn west, dude. And Iyuk is not ready to open his 21-day return window yet. Although those Rams got something to say about it. They're a damn good football team. They're a professional outfit, dude. When I watch them, can we just fly over to New Orleans real quick? Dude, when I watched them play, you know how easy laying 14 was on the road? yesterday was just like and this is a gambling thing to make a football point but I'm just sitting

there and I'm like I need a win let's put it all on the Rams they're gonna they're gonna win this game by 20 points like it just was so obvious and when you watch them play they're just such a professional outfit dude they do everything well they do everything well I don't have much to say about the game other than the Rams are free does well I mean I honestly don't this game is exactly what you would kind of expect. It's the New Orleans Saints who are not one and eight against the Los Angeles Rams who continue to be, in my opinion, the class of the NFC. I think the Rams are like a little bit underrated this year, if that makes any sort of sense. I don't know. It's great to see Puka come back and feel like he didn't really misabedeat seven receptions for 95 yards

at a touchdown. I fucking love that guy. Your man crush is Josh Allen, Chris, mine is Puka and Nakuwa. But I mean, this is truly like the definition of a flyover game for me. On one hand, you have a great team, great organization in the Los Angeles Rams. And the other hand, you got the Saints. So we don't need to go on and on about this. I think the Saints should sell. I don't know how talented their roster is. But I'm kind of loving the Rams.

I feel like they, like, let me just think about who they have coming up here. But like they got to be like the most not talked about six and two. in the in the NFL right now. I guess my question for you, Chris. I was just going to say, like, are you? Why is that? You've been banging the Seattle Seahawks drum a lot. Yeah, I have to, because I picked them to start the season.

So we've had this conversation a couple times. I'm just not going to go back on it, but those two teams are the best two teams out there just because of the injuries. For the Rams, it could be because their last four weeks have been a win against the Ravens at their lowest, went against the Jaguars in London by week and then a fucking wagon.

Sorry, hey, that's on me. Hand-up. It's really fucking good. And no one is, no one is, I mean, I think they're. I think the, I think the, the Rams superpower is this. They went out and made a move to add a secondary piece. Okay, that's great. But they can rush with four.

They also have a defensive coordinator who can kind of scheme it up a little bit. We talk about like there's some pressure usage and all that shit. So they're fine defensively, but they've got a Hall of Fame quarterback, and there's not a lot of those walking around, and they have two fucking ace wide receivers. They have a run game that's very efficient. They run the ball well. They're physical.

Like they are like a pro-style team, dude. They're just in an era where there's so much bad football, they rarely play bad football. I just watch them play, and I'm like, damn, they just do everything right. And they have a Hall of Fame coach. because I think that's how good he is. And so like when you got a Hall of Fame coach, Hall of Fame quarterback,

how many teams in the NFL right now have that? Hall of Fame, Coach Hall of Fame quarterback, the Steelers. The Steelers. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe the Steelers, but in their current form, that's like kind of a trick, trick answer. I know.

It's kind of a trick answer, that's true. But this guy still can sling the rock like, like it's fucking 2012, dude. I also think part of it in terms of like them not being appreciated as much or like still feeling underrated is I don't think people appreciate how good this defense is. Like you look at even just like EPA per play aloud, top three defense in the league. Houston, everybody knows that. L.A. Rams second best in the league and then Denver, who again is obvious. They've been awesome defensive.

We talk all about the past rushers. They've been a lot better against the run this year, which has been a huge difference. That's where you could kind of get them last year. They were kind of lighter on the interior. You could get some yards there. That's what the Eagles did. But this defense has been outstanding. And then they added Roger McCreary last week.

That's only going to improve the secondary. Sneaky little MVP was Puna Ford coming over. So like, you know, you spoke to it. But again, like getting pressure with four is like a superpower in today's NFL. If you don't have a dog shit group behind you, which is kind of what New York's turned into, this group up front's really good. You look at the teams that they'd have to beat in the NFC. I think that's a tough matchup for Green Bay.

I think it's a you saw it was a tough matchup for the Eagles in the first half of that game. You know, the Hawks, that's going to be really interesting. The Bucks, that's another. They match up with everybody. They find ways they're versatile enough to beat kind of whoever. And they can score with anybody. I just want to point out this is my Belleville Conway. This is just an image.

It's not playing. so it's good, but Matthew Stafford here. Look where he's looking off to the right, right? You think he's going to throw to Kyle and Williams? Wait, wait. So Matthew Stafford, where's his helmet pointed? Yeah, it's pointing right to the right. Right?

This ball goes up to the 50-yard line, or is the opposite 40 where Devante Williams is crossing the screen here? Devote Adams. He's crossing the screen. This ball goes right here. This ball goes right there. Yeah, I mean. No, look.

That dude is looking people off. A 30-yard no-look. He's looking people off in the stands, dude. Like, people in the stands are, like, getting looked off. They're standing there with their hands up. He's throwing me. That's just, he's been the no-look thing, dude. You know, he's the classic, like, well, if Mahomes did this, everybody frees out.

Luckily, we're all with new technologies and all these cameras. Imagine back in the day, like, just the one or two camera guys, have the decipher getting freaked out on plays. He tricked the camera, man. And everyone in this crowd be like, hey, what are you going? Imagine like CBS and 78 trying to like, you know, like a Shanahan offense, like just souped up West Coast offense with like crazy motion. Stay on the ball.

Stay on the ball. The last thing on this game, Tyler Shuck, first career NFL touchdown pass, went to six-year NFL veteran Joanne Johnson, who was his teammate at Oregon six years ago. Oh, one-e-d-d-d-d-d-d-old. Look at that. That's fine. That's wild. Coming around circle, coming around.

Wow. Shout out to Juan Johnson, too. He might be. Somebody should be looking to free him. Okay. Who else here? The Nate Bowl. Bro, was that not a dead under?

That was an under, bro. That game. It was supposed to be an under. That was insane that that thing went over. What was it, 9 to 6? How late in the game? Fourth quarter? And you want to know something fucked up about that deal?

because I had a sweet parlay lined up. It was Rams' first half. It was Jags' money line. It was Bill's money line. Look at that. It paid out big. Gino Smith, if 52 doesn't knock that pass down, he's got them in the back of the end zone.

Yeah. If, like, no, I know, I know, I know. If, if, if we're fifth, if we're fifth, nine six in the fourth quarter. The world will be drunk right now, bro. If the season ended the day. Yeah, you major in F's like,

That's literally your major, bro. No, I'm surprised you're not talking about. You know who the scary person is? Is motherfucking Brock Bowers. Let me tell you about Brock Bowers. He's made my team look absolutely atrocious. They made the defense look atrocious. He gets open anywhere.

He's a big-ass tight end. He's lining up and tripped bunches with these guys. And it's just like the one person you kind of know the ball is going to most likely go to is him. And you still can't catch it. You still can't stop it. Bro, there's a play in the game. The, what is it, the safety is screaming down on him. Has Gino dead to rights, what looks like it's about to be like a pick six?

And Brock Bowers, like, they both go for this ball at the same time, and Brock Bowers just kind of like boxes him out and catches this pass instead of it going the other way. And I was like, this dude is, this guy is amazing. He's like, I mean, I hopefully, because. Sorry, I'm talking to Chad GPT right now. Hopefully, hopefully because it's the Raiders. Hopefully not because it's the Raiders. Like, everyone in the league and fans will get to see this kid play more

and his name be lit up more because it's something where I think because he is a Raider that not too many people are familiar that we have like the next coming of. I think most fantasy people and like, you know, like, all right, so here's the conversation I've been having with Chad GPT. they're creating an image it may take a moment. I said, can you give Brock Bauer's hair? They said, sure, could you clarify what you mean?

Give Brock Bauer's hair. And I said, generate the image of him with a better hairstyle. And they go, got it before I created, can you tell me what kind of better hairstyle? Cleaner fade, modern look, longer flow surfer style. I said surfer style. It's still generating. It's going to be hard.

No, but he has to just have the baldy. He has to be the white bald, tight end, started a new, like a new look. He doesn't have to have long, flowing, blonde hair, like these tight ends. He needs to go get the bag. What's wrong with that, Nate? What are you trying to say, bro? Go to Turkey.

It's not racist. It's just like he, like, he's going to be a guy that's in his own lane, no matter what. Why would you want to look like anyone else? Just do something new. Start something new, man. That's really not a new thing. White guys going bald.

But tall, bald white tight ends? How many bald white tight ends you could think about it? Jason Whitten. Layton, late in his career. Late. But like, think about it. Didn't he come back with the baldy? The alternative, you think about...

He went to the booth and... He came back with hair. Baldi. That's what he needs to do. You do it later. You do the hair later. He needs to come back looking like a Lego man, bro. That shit plays in Vegas, dude.

But yeah, but that's later. Like Erlacker did, bro. Right now, be that gritty, bald. Like, I know all the tight ends and the skill guys. Just leave it the way it is. Bro, or just go all bald. I think it's a gangster that he just leaves it the way it is. I do it too. It means you just don't like, hey, I'm worried about football.

If I was a future Hall of Fame, I might wear my hair however the fuck I wanted to. I just, uh, yeah. Oh, but wait. You got bald or Nate Tyson chat who says that Bowers is from Napa. He only knows the wealthy balding look. Nice. I love it. What up, mate? Even more. Even more. Oh, dude. I got a sick picture of Brock powers. Oh, my God. I'm going to send it. I'm sending it to golly, dude. Don't hurt him, Brock. Don't hurt him, Brock. And then look, before we. get um before we get taken away me no chicks for anybody else left after this hairstyle dude check it out reeds coming to you that that just looks like stets and bennett's coming coming

does it look like rock powers oh that's stets and bennett that's a georgia walk on right what of it every i i image is just like sam hartman yeah yeah that's dude so Sam Harbin comes on TV and I like accidentally turn it off. My wife's in the room. I'm just like, what was that? Nothing. Like clicking out of your browser. Fucking Notre Dame coach.

That's where my girl. What? The Notre Dame coach. What about him? I have to turn it. Oh, really? Yeah, the good looking lights. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm off my screen right now. Whatever. Get him off. No, before we get taken away from this and he's going to be in my mentions a couple of times too, I can't let any of you guys forgetting here. I got a shout out. my man, Cam Little, last name Little, but my leg is big, baby.

68 yards with some fucking room. We hit a 70-yarder in preseason. It doesn't count. Yeah, it doesn't count. But you see that shit, bro? No, it's crazy. And then before the play, it's like, hey, complimentary football. You see Trevor turns it on.

He turns it on for one play real quick before the half and gets them to the mark that they needed. Which is like their own 40. Exactly. And Cam Little just booming. Hey dude, what's crazy is when I saw him hit that 70 whatever yarder in preseason, he did that in like, that's like reverse Coors Field. Yeah.

He's doing that in the swamp down in Jacksonville. I knew the minute he did that, he was going to break the record this year. It's just all about like situations. Situation. And just to be in that situation is rare enough. But for him to boot that ball, were watching kansas city in buffalo anything else going on in america could have been happening in a hangar dude it was like this was the game dude the first big game in three weeks and everybody's

watching it and they go and we've got to go out west where something that special's happening i'm like what yeah like what else is happening right now i don't believe you like is this is this like world news like this and they're like cam little i'm like yeah i know what it is this fucking little guy kicked the ball for dude cool crazy to see facts caping for a kicker though man times the fucking shit yeah i know but bro hey you got hey he has the record man and then look you know what else about it that's good for the NFL guess who he bumps out of the record guess whose name that gets to bump out the record oh oh i thought it was bucker yeah exactly so he gets to knock his name off where he put a little staying on the NFL look at that you got cam little there yeah now more that's for sure oh wow oh wow

But, you really, oh, man. We're shanking this, guys. Yeah. But Kim, but Kim Little, man. And for everyone who, for most of you who didn't watch this game and you see this score and you hear people talking about how bad Trevor is and yada, y'all, well, this was Trevor's flu game. He was sick.

He was up throwing up all night. His number one wide receiver at the end of this game was Parker Washington. and I'm not trying to throw shade at him because he is amazing for our team, special teams demon. He's a guy who's stepping up. Usually when you're the returner and the special teams guy, you're like the fourth or fifth wide receiver that doesn't really get good chances and good opportunities when it's offensive time.

But they have no choice now right now. And he is showing up. He catches the rock. I just feel like. Yeah, Washington's, yeah, he's the type of guy that he's going to have a job there as long as he wants. I would hope so. Because Liam Cohen, like when you get there and you're needed, And, like, Brian Johnson's, you know, playing fucking volleyball with the football.

He got hurt. And Travis is hurt. And, but I mean, like, as far as, like, guys you can depend on. I feel like Liam is a coach. Yeah, he's a coach. If you can show that you can play and you can do your job and not turn the bowl over, I feel like that's a team. If I'm an offensive guy or if I'm a ball handler, I would love.

Treyf should get the flu more often. Maybe. Late in that game. Do you think somebody needs to hold his hair when he peop? Oh, God, that's funny. You know? That's funny. You've been with a young lady who's having a hard time after the bar or something like that,

my wife in college maybe, and she's like, you got to hold my hair. That's what happens with Trevor Lawrence. I'm in that only, I'm in that territory for myself right now where I had to, I had to find a hair tie this weekend because I thought I was going to have to call Earl. Oh, really? Because that's the thing for you too. Because my hair is that long. Was it Friday night?

Huh? Was it Friday night? You had to find a hair tie because you're going to be. You, that's a, that's a, that's a, that's a low-key shitty thing about having good flow, man, that Trevor Lawrence has got to deal with. I've been there too. Yeah. I can't imagine.

I just peeped on my hair, dude, fuck it. Dude, but yeah, no, that's, that's wild. Like, uh, I didn't know he was sick. Yeah, he was sick. He was supposedly he was throwing up all night. And then it was a nice little moment at the end of the game with Liam Cohen. He kind of, he hugged Trevor and you can see him out of, like I'm proud of you. And with that type of game, you.

And with that type of game, it's like, what the hell are you proud of? Like, what are you really proud of? You seem like proud of that? But when you find out that he was up all night, throwing up, and all his guys getting hurt and going through adversity, you know what? I'm proud of them too. No, that's all good. But the Jacksonville, it's funny. I'll show you guys later, and I have to put it together a little bit more.

I have this drinking game that I'm master, I'm putting together for watching Jacksonville games. And it's like, it's like you get to take shots and drinks of water when Jacksonville does good things. And then you have to take shots of alcohol from when they do bad things. It's a thing like. It's a good way to get dead. Yeah, it's either, it's either, would you, at the end of a game, would you be well hydrated or are you going to be shit-faced? And it's just like things like you got to take a shot every time they snap the ball under three seconds, which is almost every fucking play. Bro, like, it's certain things, Jack do.

Like, I just don't under, I don't understand. Like, I don't understand. It's just like, I love this team, but like, the fact that you guys snap the ball under five seconds for every offense of play. And the fact that Trevor, you feel comfortable making an audible, when there's five seconds. This is like a game you play with your worst enemy, dude. It's like, God, Lee. It's like, I don't get it. But we got the win.

You got the win. Got the win. The Raiders are, I mean, it's a sad deal. You know, as Max Crosby was down the goal line last night, somebody said this. It could be his last player, you know, as a raider. And the thought crossed my mind. And it's such a shame because, and I think he wants to go to Dame Lillard.

I actually believe him. He's a sicko in the best way. Don't. I know. But like the point is, and it's the same thing with a point. They went back, at least flirt. At least flirt with something else. Go somewhere for two years and then be like, you know what?

I made a mistake. But at least flirt with it. I get you. I'm just saying like the dude's super loyal and he's like a kind of he's the consummate raider and um it's it's a shame that they have been able to cash in on his brilliant career bro the plays that he was making knifing like in on the goal line bro he made it one he has so much body control it's crazy it's so fucking crazy bro like people people like him they just have something special going on something special you know what i'm saying like and it's hard to measure that's

That's why somebody like him, you know, they measure him at 6-7, but it's hard to measure all the intangibles of his game. Maybe Jerry's about to shut us up and he's getting it done right now. Would that make us excited to see Crosby? I'd be happy for Max Crosby, but it would suck, you know. I know. Man, he would be hanging out with Post Malone so much. Can't you just see that?

Oh, my God. I just wanted to say congratulations. Has Jerry spoke up yet? How is it possible this hasn't leaked yet? Dude, I'm like, I want to hold the show as long as we can because I feel like as soon as it ends, we're going to get some big news, dude. Maybe he's just kidding. Yeah. Jerry's the most of the picture just flipping us off.

If someone trash, bro, it's going to be so great. Like, not even, I don't even want to say trash, but it's just like. I tell you, it's going to be Logan Wilson. Okay. It's going to be Logan Wilson. A bunch of Cowboys fans are going to go, who? Who? He'll walk to the podium and be like, we had a trade with the Cincinnati Bengals.

and we're getting their defensive standout. Getting their defensive linebacker. Fucking Jerry, get out of here with this. All right, Chargers and Titans. I didn't see a minute of it. Not a minute. I watch a little bit of it. Honestly, we don't need to talk about this at a ton.

We can just move on. This sounds like something embarrassing between two people. We don't need to ever talk about this game again. I don't want to watch the Titans anymore. Like, we all know that they're. an organization in complete flux. Okay. Justin Herbert, Joe Alcott got hurt again for him.

Like, they have not been the team that we've all wanted or that we've expected because of the injuries, especially to their offensive line. Justin Herbert catches a lot of shit from everybody, but he is under siege constantly. Joe Alcott hurt again, looks to be a high ankle. He's probably going to miss, you know, whatever, six weeks, something along those lines.

You kind of hate that for him. He was just getting healthy. It was a little bit different with him. back in the thing. That's kind of all I got, man. I just think the injury bug, we talked about that with the 49ers. It's been pretty bad for the Chargers, too. It's frustrating for me personally.

I really like their scheme. But they're like a pro-style offense. They need to be able to run the ball. They haven't. There was something else I wanted to talk about here. What was it? Oh, Scott Matlock had a touchdown. Oh, good for him.

Fucking love that. Yeah. How many Gingers have had touchdowns so far this year? Is he a ginger? I don't know. Doesn't he have like Strawberry blonde analytics?

Oh, are you just trying to avoid that that's bro. Is he a ginger? Hey, pull him up. Oh, I don't know.

It's kind of a strawberry blonde, dude. What the fuck, dude? That guy's Scottish. He's the guy who's on the loud commercials. That's what a guy.

He looks like Shaman's brother. Giant lepracon. The wrestler? It looks like your brother. Yeah, dude. There's, You calling him a strawberry blonde.

Strawberry blonde, just like me, dude. Come on. That was the most exciting thing. This game, you mentioned it. It was an embarrassing. This is the game where, like, Justin Herbert and Madison Beer out to dinner with Justin Bieber and Haley Bieber and Madison Beer was like, oh, you played the Titans right on Sunday? Justin's like, no. No, not at all.

Actually, we had a buy week. Yeah, we didn't play. We had a buy. Yeah, it wasn't. I didn't say to her legs like, no, I thought that Red Tone picked it up. No. Nope. Nope.

Titans, uh, Titans, uh, I'm checking in Titan. I bet you every Titans player is sitting at their, sitting their place today, just,

just watching their phone. Yeah. Hoping it rings. Send me on a plane. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Best flight. Anybody is leaving there. Any of these places. Yeah. It should be like Operation Dumbo drop. Dude. They should just be like parachuting down like Titans, Titans.

The sad thing. This is just not enough. Well, there are some tradable assets. Yep. I mean, we started with Jeffrey Simmons. Arden Key. Arden Key. Devandre Sweat was the name.

What about sweat? Yeah. Dude, the sweat thing in a heartbeat, give me Tevandre sweat. Yeah. Rookie deal. Sign up. Yeah.

Give me Tevandre sweat in a heartbeat. Oh, hello, maybe. We can trade Jihad Ward. He had two sacks yesterday. Jehad Ward is a very good role player, man. Like, he's shut up on a lot of teams. He can give you good. snaps on the edge like if you need depth if you need that type of thing sure but I think more than

anything like Pollard would be on the there would be nobody that's not for sale outside the quarterback and I know they said Jeffrey Simmons is not for sale but they should do an experiment where they're like let's get the most draft picks like possible we we like we are so behind do you think about some of the other number one quarterbacks recently that like made teams think they could win now he said it with jaden Daniels said it with with Chicago I'm sure those aren't the only two examples like CJ Stroud, the Titans, or the Texans. What they have is like, it's kind of a gift

to know, like, no, there's no way out of this other than just building from here on out. Like, and so I actually think, like, if you just sell the fuck out of your team today, the way I caught that line time, bro. Hands. Does it? I should play receiver for London on fourth and goal. I just play receiver for the Jags. How do you?

Can I say something else, dude? Can I say something else, dude? Wait, wait, depends. I don't like... No, I said it yesterday. When Hoyt got hurt and his Achilles popped, I turned to the guys and I said, I don't know if I'm just having a good day, but I'll go, I will give my Achilles to go play with Josh Allen. If they need a 40-year-old rusher, I'll go out there and pop it one good time, dude. You know, I'll give you two good rushes. That's how much you like Josh Allen. That's how much I think it looks fun to be on the bills, dude. Yeah. So when they were playing

Mr. Brightside after the game? You were like, you remember that practice facility we walked in? Do you know how good that would be for the pod? Fuck, you would dread, you would, I would love it. If you start training now, you'll be ready come playoff. I'll be ready for the playoffs. Yeah. And my Achilles. Which is also good for the pod.

We're going to start training. Yeah. You're ready. I'm ready. I'm ready. You just did the training cycle. What are you talking about? Chris wouldn't let us talk about it.

Hey, pack a wheel. Packet wheel. Think of how much further along you'd be. And we could rent out that. No, I wouldn't because it's all about load management at this age. We can, we can, you could rent that, um, that Airbnb being out for the guys. You know, the scary one we were. in Buffalo?

Yeah, I can live there. We can rent that out and we can do the content from there. Yeah, just keep on selling crack cocaine, which is what's being done in that Airbnb since the beginning of time. It's seen. No, this is a question. Don't let these guys pick Airbnb's here. You know, it's a, hey, you don't be a fun thing?

If you're going on vacation, let Greenlight pick your Airbnb. They've been, they've been, you've guys been catfish by Airbnb so many times. It's so fun. No, it's a good catfish. the last time the one in the one in detroit the one in e-course like when reed showed me the listing i was like all right well it's all right but you got to pull up the old crime map yeah yeah no um yeah i would i would i would gladly hey here it is man i got two good Achilles but i'm not saving them for anything you know what i'm saying random being in tight ends like if you're someone like

cam ward and it's just like being at a tag sale where you're the shiny new object but it's like everything's for sale except for you. Yeah. Like, how does that feel for him or just being a player when you're on a team knowing like, hey, everyone has a chance to get out of here except for me. I think Cam Ward strikes me as a mature individual. He strikes me as an adult. He strikes me as somebody who's realistic and somebody that knows this is going to take time.

And I think he knows that the only way out is to build. And so, yeah, if I'm him, like, what, it could it be worse than the first eight, games of the season like the back half of the season could be even worse like you could you could dump my whole my whole team like you know i'll get through it because it's like for him it's just like you're a guy when you're on a bad team like that and you know they're not going to sell it because it's like if they do make trades it's like now they're trading it's not that you're going to bring in awful players but you might bring you might be bringing in guys that now are fucking pissed like damn i'm on tennessee now like i don't want to be here even though cam ward you're good but like

I don't want to necessarily be here. Yo, so many people want me to go back to the bills. 83% of our fans hate this podcast, or they want me gone. They're like, yeah, yes, they put a poll in the thing, and they're 83% of people. Yeah, that means you'll leave and let the other guys talk. And then, like, if we can bet on if your Achilles pops

in the first quarter or the second quarter or the third quarter, are there any more games? No, we're going to the phone lines. Ring, ring, ring, ring. Hopefully some. The locals are calling. Oh, phone lines. Locals are calling.

Let's do it. Hey, Chris, I don't have a Twitter handle, but calling you this morning from Minnesota. I am a huge Washington fan. And I want to ask a question. So, if you're playing the commanders, would you think about employing a strategy where you intentionally cheat on first down? So, in other words, if I were scouting them, I'd say, hey, everybody. hold on first down. If it gets called,

that's one day. If it doesn't get called, it's great. We got a good chance to get a chunk play here. You know, maybe block a guy in the back, grab a face mask, you know, pull him to the ground to create a hole for a running back. What I would say, that's it, guys, just we are going to cheat every first down. Because if it gets the second and 25,

it's an automatic 50-yard play. He's the greatest against this defense. Right it's down. Let me know what you think about that. Yo, let me the way. Hire that guy. Who is that guy? Hire that guy, dude.

No Twitter handle, yo. That was incredible. I mean, and also, it kind of checks out. So, holy shit. That was a great call. I'd like to imagine that person, you know, probably lunch break maybe, or maybe. Maybe they called late last night. He went to his car.

And he's got the phone on speaker and he's just, you know, getting better and angry and angry and angry. And then someone's sitting next to it. Just watching that like, what that? Somebody in the car next to him. I'm calling into Green Light. Yelling at the phone. Oh, the guy's a commanders fan.

Key to be in the comm. He's getting to second and 25. That's fucking classic, man. I got the lines this week. That is classic. Wow. All right, who's next? That guy was incredible.

Can you feel the love tonight? The W. The evening brings the world for once in perfect harmony. Lawrence, my arms, E.T. in my legs. Washington, my hands, and Cam Little my foot.

An NFL record, the spotted cat predators are headed to the ship. Is that not right, facts? Yesterday! Jags, go, J-A-G-A-G-S, jiggles, jiggles, jiggles, jiggles, do, ball. Dog, isn't that from the Lion King? Oh, my God. It's got some... You guys got some play.

Different predator. Spot it jag, spotted cats. It's all right. Man, hey, we have weird fans, too. I love that guy. I didn't say the guy was weird. He definitely, he definitely, he definitely sounded weird. But I love it.

I love that we have, we actually have Jags. I love that we have Jags fans. And Jacks fans seem cool. I would put them in the power rankings of like chill people. Yeah. Like pretty high in the NFL. I'm not going to lie to. They got a pool of their stadium.

I'm very, I'm very, very upset that Travis Hunter got hurt. I have a regional theory about fans. What's that? I think the fans down south are pretty cool in the NFL. Why is that? I think maybe. it's because they have college football.

Yeah. What about Miami? What do you feel about Miami fans? No, Miami fans are not down south. They're like, that's like New York south. That's like, it's Florida. Florida doesn't count as to South. I'm not talking about North Florida, like Jacksonville, North Florida.

Atlanta fans are super cool. Saints fans are cool. Texans fans are all cool. You can lean on your college teams. Well, I don't know. Maybe it's just so baked into the regional experience that, you know, like you don't have to put all your eggs in that bad. Yeah, the SEC, it's like a religious thing.

Carolina fans are cool. A holy war with the SEC. Titans fans, I haven't met one, but... Yeah, same. Now, now... Now, honestly, and I think the West Coast fans are kind of unreasonable, a lot of them, and the Northeast fans are super emotional. So I don't know.

I think the point is the ones down south are cool, including... Joe Alt will have season-end. ankle surgery for his high right ankle sprain according to a team spokesperson which fucking blows and which means that the tear in the retinaculum is that what they call god things are just like like i've thought about that word since i had a high ankle retinaculum it's uh or wherever the tear is it depends on how high it is his is just super high so he's his is too high um you can have a high ankle and play through it if it's low enough i it exists on like a whole scale.

Are they buyers? Is there someone that you see, is there a player on another team that matches with the Chargers? Could they do tackles or not? People are letting tackles out of the building. I fear that this is, we've said this a couple times with the Chargers.

This might be one too many. It's just like, golly, I feel terrible for Herbert. Other trade stuff that's happened this morning. We didn't talk about it yet, but the Eagles getting Jalen Phillips. So yeah, this is a big deal. I mean, the Eagles, a couple trades are a flurry of trades.

You know, people waiting for the Howie Roseman trade, whatever the big move is going to be. It turns out he makes three, like kind of bite-sized moves. This one's the biggest move to me, because Jalen Phillips is the best player of the three players that he's gone out and gotten. If you could pull up the capital that they spend on each trade, I don't know if that's something you can actually do.

Jalen Phillips is a third. Jair was. I think both Carter and Jair were basically just like late round. So the way I look at the Carter thing is you're hoping that he gets back to being like the player he was when he was younger. I think he's had some injuries. Scheme, not such a fit up in New York, maybe a better fit with the Eagles. And questionable, are they going to move Cooper outside in some situations?

So that's a big domino. We'll see. I don't know that Jire Alexander is like coming to the rescue in a sense. that like all of a sudden you're going to see gire alexander from two three years ago you know he hasn't played a lot this year and when he has it hasn't been good um but i think jalen phillips if you have a healthy jaylin phillips can really help you and he's one of my favorite rushers young rushers in the game as far as guys i have a soft spot for where it's like dude his story's crazy just the the amount of injuries he's had to overcome early in his career playing for miami um very underrated

player i think if they get the healthy jalen phillips there's nothing wrong with a rental um and there's nothing wrong with maybe if he plays well enough he's part of the future but um you know the nice thing is when they let those free agents walk i think william sweat and there was one more uh than i'm not thinking of yeah beckton you know the way that works is with the comp picks as long as you don't make a signing in a certain amount of time like you're going to get the comp pick and so you get to the season they make the trades you're basically using comp picks to acquire talent in the middle of your roster and they need players right now they need depth they They need to throw a bunch of shit at the wall and hope it sticks.

I do think this is a better answer than going out and trying to do the whole thing in some in one big trade, you know. And you never know. Like, I don't even want to make the joke. I don't want to make the joke. I was going to make an AJ Brown joke, which I totally not. Just Eagles fans right now, they are so sick of the reporting that he might get traded. I don't think he's getting traded. No, but Brandon Graham might be on the block.

You know, a lot of people have edge rushing needs. You bring Brandon Graham back just to. to trade him. That's kind of genius. Trade him out. But yeah, 2026 third. And for Miami, like, I guess they would have been in line for like a 27

comp pick if he'd have walked. So you get the pick sooner. It's a third round pick. That's pretty good. We were talking about the compensation you'd have to get for somebody like this. I was saying with the injury history, I thought it'd be like more of a four. Yep.

But considering the need and the relatively low price you have to pay, considering the surplus of, they have all their picks next year. I think Howie's just like we need pass rush whatever we have to do. I think they have eight total and one note on this pick is it is their own and not the the Jets pick that they're right one yeah yeah yeah I mean to your point about having to fork over a third there's probably a market for him you know you probably had to outbid some teams no questions you could see in the playoffs no question he's a good addition I like the way that um his ability to

win as a speed rusher kind of complements the ability with Hunt and Nolan Smith to win with power kind of complemented skills. It's funny because like Uche's played pretty well this year. Yeah, and Uche, I think, is a relatively similar guy in that he's an option rusher. He takes edges. Yep. You know, there's some finesse in his game.

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I haven't said shit in a while. Shall we? This is actually a baseball flight. I've never been on a baseball flight, but I feel like it doesn't get any better than flying back to L.A. after winning, winning at all. That's got to be pretty fucking sweet.

So L.A. Dodgers' best flight. I mean, Chris, you remember that, that lovely flight. the day after the Super Bowl. I think it was 8 a.m. I was, you know, quite drunk, also hung over after we won the Super Bowl. Were we sitting together? I was sitting next to JP.

I don't remember the flight. I don't remember the flight either, but I just remember feeling like the weight of the world was off my shoulders. And I'm sure that's how those guys in L.A. feel, too. So best flight goes to the Dodgers. Well, yeah, especially because they probably fly with way less heads on the plane. Like we had to take two planes and like one of the planes is like our families. And we won in Minneapolis and everybody's sick. It was like the Oregon Trail.

And they put us all on planes. And on the second plane, they were all our churin. And all our children were sick. And they were just breathing on each other. So like I had sick wagon here with my anxiety, Bo. Having done a parade before, I was like so paranoid I was going to get sick for the parade. Because I was sick during the week too. So I was like, man, looking at these sniffling kids, man.

Like I'll drive home. Fuck it. Not to throw salt on that. I always wondered, like, for the baseball guys, because we don't have to do it in football. I wonder if it's still annoying having to go through customs and everything because Toronto, like...

I don't know. I doubt you have to go through as much customs. I think they do it on the way there, right? Or, like, they do it once. I don't remember us really going through customs like that going to play internationally. Oh, true. Oh, yeah.

You know? Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I've never done a long game or whatever. Yeah. I was going to make a joke, but I'm not going to. Hey, real fast, Jerry Jones says that the trade will be consummated tomorrow. Jesus Christ, Jerry. He's just dragging it out.

Consumated. The dragons are coming. Big one. He knows how to do this. He knows how to do this. I'm going to sleep on it. That means someone just said no to him. And we're bringing in Rashid Shahee.

or something. No, I'm just joking. Malik Collins, man, he's a good player. Okay, best flight. Jags. Yeah. That's a long-ass flight, man. That's why it's the best.

I mean, the close one like that, the versus the other way around, you lose that game 30 to 29, that flight just is miserable. The streak breaker, too? And after a bye week, yeah. Yeah. It would not have been good.

Yeah. about the Ravens beat the brakes off the fins nice long weekend yeah the mini buy mini buy yeah but uh here's what if they were better here's the problem they would have got to stay yeah if they were better they could have been like yo coo may i the best oh my god if you're just stayed in Miami oh if you're in the city like Miami or Houston the night or Atlanta the night before I love Miami Miami is one of my favorite cities I feel like it's safe for me to finally go back outside there because Tua, I think everybody agrees at this point.

But for a couple years there, I was like, man, I don't even like going to Miami anymore. You scared they were going to ride for Tua? No, I think Tuanon's the type that just they run up on you. You don't even see them coming, you know? creepy, motherfuckers. You got to have one eye open in Miami, you know, Chris? Yeah, but

like, yeah, and I can't see over the line, so. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah, okay, so I'll go best flight. Oh, I'll give it to AJ McCarthy. Like, you know, you got to feel good. Like, when you play your best game in the NFL and you're young or like you do something good, like you get on the plane, you're just kind of, you're just kind of glowing, man. You're like, man, let me remember this feeling because they're not all going to be like that. But I thought like seeing Justin Jefferson mug him up on the sidelines after he ran that touchdown in, you know, seeing the guys kind of rally around him. That was probably a fun flight for him. A lot of people were probably walking up and down the aisle, tapping him on the shoulder. Enjoy it. Worst flight. Parker Romo.

And it's not his fault. Here's the thing. That team's terrible. Like, and by terrible, I mean, like, they can't consistently play well. And a lot of people sharing the blame, but like, golly, to miss that fucking kick. And I think you lose in overtime. I think you're probably losing regulation. But they're going to blame the kicker.

Parker Romo. Worst flight. Got to be the Bengals. Oh, I just crushed my stress pumpkin. Talking about the Bengals? Yeah, it must have been the Bengals. It just got to be the Bengals. All those stuff that we talked about earlier,

so all those points, three games in a row, they're scoring over 40 points. The Bengals at home? Were they? No, yes, they were. I should have stopped you earlier. I should have stopped you earlier. So still worse flight.

Still, worse ride home. That's good. I'm bad facts. But you know, hey, I will, I will admit this. I'll watch a whole game sometimes. And because of the volume of games I'm watching, I won't really know truly where it is. If it's one of these fringy games.

That's one of the things I was going to say the other day. Here's a dead giveaway, though. It's what? Bears grass. Oh, yeah. If you get a weird side angle. Especially when you play at the stadium. Yeah, that's what's going to say.

All right, next one. That was, that would have been a shitty flight, though. That would have been a bad one. one yeah i'm gonna go chis just you know losing uh to the bills and their place like you feel like you lose their every fucking season and big game like fuck that kind of a long flight i don't know yeah that's a shitty one yeah worst flight hey bevel conway they can't leave it Sunday night football was bevel conway damn absolutely well i mean we can all talk about it because it was i mean like the why don't you do this every fucking week to the Seattle seahawks and then all

also for Washington, and I don't like the helmet, all right, got it. But like all they need to do is put kind of like a retro W up there. Just a retro W. You could be the Washington Manors. Or a spear. Or a spear. That would look sick. But even if they don't do the spear, just do a retro W, like akin to the Nationals W.

My thing is like the helmet, like just even with that W, I can be fine with that W, but the three stripes, opposed to like the regular helmet has the one yellow stripes. That was a modern helmet. on a retro uniform yeah i you know like to me that that that uh you know how that they kind of that helmet looks different than like uh the paint job on another helmet it's got it's got that kind of like glossy mat or yeah matt yeah it's just so stupid y'all like those panthers matte helmets and shit no man we're actually had a different bevel cowboy though it wasn't just sunday night football i mean no one i'm surprised no one said this the uh the giants and the the the niner's

Because they're playing on turf at that, at that emotionless, dusty-ass stadium. I think maybe it was just a giant. I like the Giants throwbacks. I do too. Yeah, they're really nice. De Bevel. Mac Jones's bloody face. That was ugly.

It looked way cooler when JJ Watt was bloody, you know? Right, Bo, didn't you think? And then, uh, what? He was bloody, you know? And Mac Jones are that he got in there with a razor blade himself. He kind of killed at least the toughest guy on his own. But I thought the MacDohm's bloody nose was ugly. My headside bevel is going to, and I've caped for him so much, it's going to RG3.

Just putting, just putting the camera on his face after Jaden Daniels gets hurt, and he's just kind of like sitting there acting like he's crying or being emotional about him being hurt. Oh, he was? Yeah, and it's just like. you saying he was acting it's just weird it's just a weird thing to do like even knowing football history and knowing that you got hurt on that field and in the season ending way but doesn't that make it much more but not understandable but no context just like recording on your phone for no context and then posting it's just like oh well yeah I mean I don't know I thought maybe he was doing a live

stream no and that's what I said if you're doing a live stream already watching the game and in the moment it just happens like that no like it's like oh I know everyone's looking at my page right now to see how quote unquote I can make a cowboy hat on too and not listen man I mean there there are some unfortunate parallels yeah you know and and I've been resistant to those parallels because I think jaden's a better quarterback um and rg three I felt like I don't know I guess I sold myself the dream that that jaden wouldn't get hurt running the football but it's been happening and uh they do play for the same team and they both took the league by storm although different players i don't want to be lazy yeah for sure um uh i got an anti bevel

i'm surprised this didn't come up at already but the uh the packers and those unies in carolina i need to post a hoit or uh not i mean against carolina even though it was that lambo like they were just ugly like it looks like you got a big fucking piece of shit on your helmet i'm not a fan big piece of shit on your helmet, huh? It's just gross, dude. I like the uniforms. I just think the helmet. It's the helmet for me.

What can you do with that? It looks like you're wearing a piece of wood on your head. I don't know. It's leather. It's supposed to be leather. Yeah, that's what they want it to, you know, it's not though. Yeah. It's not.

It's not, though. My anti-devil, and I say this with respect, the aerial shot of the city of Buffalo on the broadcast. It's like three buildings. like let's just stick to Niagara Paul he's trying to mess up Barbill Tadden

that's my foliage though how about the foliage in some of those shots I thought the sunset but not the city yeah this I'm speaking to the city you're speaking to the Metro Polyne area like what is this

well I certainly think they could do things maybe a little bit better but I think it's a beautiful city yeah yeah best seat home game come on Best seat.

Easy. This is easy. I got an easy one too. Best seat. Cardi B. Sitting in the damn owner's box with Robert Kraft. With Robert Kraft. What are you yelling?

All the rumors and everyone talking shit about Courtney B and Stefan Diggs to see her in the press box. And after her next baby daddy scores a touchdown, doing the celebration with him is absolutely amazing. Best seat. Got to be the best seat. keep going guys because i got i got i got i got a i got a best you guys might not know this but you obviously know who frank gore as tough as nails he played for 16 years in the nfl where he was renowned as a real fucking pain in the ass to tackle trust me i took a face full of frank gore a couple times we played the night of lord almighty

boy is frank gore versus cTE okay okay frank gore versus cTE okay okay He is fighting the battle. Played for 16 years and now he's a, he's a professional boxer where he's 2 and 0. Last week, watch this. Watch how powerful is. No, I know. Ground of this fight. Got a knockout.

That's crazy. Not only is he beating opponents on a football field in the boxing ring, but he's also single-handedly taking up the cause against CTE and proving dominant. Best C. Well, it's, yeah, it's like hard to get it if you never let it start. You know what I'm saying? You just keep going. become the CTE.

Yeah, okay. All right. So I'm good. So did anybody see this? And I guess it qualifies for worst seat. There was an Idaho, northern, I guess, Arizona. Yeah, Northern Arizona game and midnight on Halloween. And there's a two point try in the fourth.

And the fucking lights go out in the middle of the play in, I guess it was the Idaho or the Northern Arizona dome. One of these, it's minor league football guys. I don't fucking watch college football, but this one, look at this shit. We can actually show you college football. We should just do a college football show because they at least like growing the game. Are you serious? Is that crazy or what? And he caught it too.

He caught it in the fucking dark. Yeah. Got caught it in the dark. What was the explanation? What was the line of the game is what I want to know? You think Vegas did it? Maybe there's a B-dubs thing. Oh, call it in?

Yeah. Could have been a B-dub thing. Cut the lights. But what was the line of that game? Does anybody know and did look up the line? I know that they later lost whoever, whichever team that was. Oh, NAU later lost. They later lost, but he caught that.

Then they had to redo the play. They got it again and then the team lost in overtime. Yeah, well, everybody knows NAU gets all the calls. All right. So that's probably worst seat sitting there betting that game and watching the fucking lights come out. Best seat? Did anybody have a worse seat left? best see i got a worse oh go ahead worse seat you had a really good one no my best seat was frank gore that's

good my worst seat is danny smith's jaw dude you see him chewing that fucking bubble gum oh yeah line like dude he puts p carroll to shame he does it's like really impressive and you know he goes home and his jaw is like just feels like he took a fucking punch from frank gore dude i don't know he i'm sure he does that every day his jaw his jaw is well um well prepared Only one side, yeah, yeah. And he's a fucking, he's hilarious. Did you see that, um, Gene Stereator dropped in and said, uh, it's a bazooka bubble gum. He put it in JJ Watts here.

Oh, really? Yeah, Gene Stere Tor, or JJ, I was like, I just heard in my ear, uh, that Gene Stere Tore told me it was bazook, it was Bazooka bubble gum. It's Bucca, though. It's a good bubble gum. Wow. Which, uh, it's actually pretty good bubble gum. And you get some comics, don't you?

Yeah. Yeah. They're good, that's a good bubble gum for about 90, 90 seconds. Yeah, but you know, but you know, it's a good bubble gum for about 90 seconds. Yeah, but you know, my favorite is all time, Fruit Stripe. Oh, and that's like 75 seconds. Yo, the first 45 seconds of the stripe is like. But it's fruit stripe, wait, fruit stripes are ones with the built-in tattoo, right?

The rappers are tattoos? Like, I think what? Aren't the fruit stripe the one? The wrappers are disposable tattoos, maybe? Oh, I think so. Maybe. That rings a bell. I think so.

It's been a long time since I was a child. Fruitripe was lit, and they always had the fat packs, what, like 24 pieces? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I love those motherfuckers, dude. Oh, somebody give me some fruit stripes. Jeez. My best seat, Will Smith. You guys know who that is?

Oh, yeah. Six straight World Series wins, dude. Damn. That guy. It's not one game. It's two, yeah. It's three people. What?

There's three Will Smith. What do you mean? Yeah. They're all the same name. Are you serious? I got fucking. Yeah. Did I get God?

Like, there's a relief pitcher, a catcher, another pitcher. Damn, but they do kind of all look alike. Well, yeah, they're all Will Smiths. They do look alike. See, I didn't see the quotes. None of them are actually Will Smith. I didn't see the quotes.

Yeah, and none of them are actually. Lesson learned. We can't cover baseball here. I was like, when I saw this, I was like, God damn, guys. That's some crazy shit. I mean, at least this guy went back to back. This Will Smith?

Yeah. Catcher Will Smith went back. Okay. And then bearded Will Smith went. back to back. Big Homer in game seven to win the game. Dude, the end of that game, I was just, like, I came into it carrying who won. Yeah.

Sorry about the Blue Jays. That's all good. But I just, I came into it carrying who won, and then by the end of it, I was like, somebody finish it. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? It's tough. Somebody finishes.

My party was already fucked. I was in the same boat. Man, I guess I need a new worst seat or best seats. I have a worse seat. Oh, you do? Meantime. The Bengals office of players in the best. watching the Jumbotron as Colston Loveland gallops through the secondary on the road to victory.

That was crazy. I mean, I can't imagine the frustration of that. Like, putting up 40 points. The tensions are high. Oh, my God. Yeah, dudes were pissed after the game. Tensions are high. Worse.

Really high. Chase Brown was mad. Oh, yeah. Tomorrow was mad. I'm giving it to commanders fans. Just a bad, bad, a bad seat to be in right now for your team. Yeah, you show up at that fucking liability of a stadium. pay your good money to watch that can't stop second and 25 and then thing that might suck is all

your good players might be fucking hurt before y'all get into the new stadium yeah that's true yeah that's true yeah it's like damn um is it fly on the wall next yes sir fly on the wall kevin stefansky walking up to tommy reese can being like hey uh i'm hand in play calling duties over to you and Tommy reese is like thanks It's got to be Oh fuck you Kevin Yeah Just like

That's a good one Yeah That's a good one Right Nope No you got to call the plays And we're all going down So

Fly on the wall How did that go? My fly on the wall We just talked about a little bit Would be Just near those The offensive players For the bang

and just hearing with just hearing how much shit you're probably talking about the defense you're playing with because just the way that game went is just I just I would just love to hear more than all we need is one fucking stop because just hearing that speaks loudly when you hear your player saying that where he knows there's cameras around and walking out of the stadium so I could just imagine how you really feel and when you go back and look and just be like yo what the fuck and like i was saying earlier to see that guy throw a shoulder than rather than just trying to tackle like i would really love to hear what like jemar chase and higgins and some of those guys would have to say about that ass ass uh go i got to fly in the wall let's take this you know home bow eagles had a buy week there was a lot of trade rumors obviously how he was dealing but i would love to just get you know let's say how he hanging out how he was We're at dinner. He goes to the bathroom. He leaves his phone on the table unlocked. I'd love to just go through. See what he was cooking up. You know?

Howie? Yeah, Howie. At one point, it was rumor that the Eagles were going to trade three first rounders for Miles Garrett. That made my dick hard. I really want to know if there was any truth of that. Just love to look through that phone and see what kind of messages were popping in it out of there. Yeah, that that would be the most interesting in the world. Like, like, yeah. Yeah, cell phone records. Golly. What would all the near. All the near. All the near. or misses or the or the like the ridiculous ass that like you're like never mind it had to ask yeah like yeah what's the screen time you think for how he got that thing i don't know but he types on his tablet like this text like this we saw him in the booth one day texting like that um hollow man hollow man damn dude i forgot about a hollow man i guess it's me you guys go first all right i'll start um my holl man's dan quinn you know we talked about the jaden daniels fucking arm facing the wrong way, how tough that was.

RG3 commented in, made a little video about it. But like, you're in garbage time. Your team's getting your ass beat. It was, what, 387 at that time? No, 38.14 or whatever it was. Seven. And I think, yeah, everybody in the world is wondering why he's even in there. He was, he had felt like they rushed him back from that other injury, the hamstring, or

whatever it was. And it was questionable when he was in for that, that injury as well. So Dan Quinn's certainly under fire about that. want to try to keep that young playmaker healthy and he has not i'm sure he is regretting those decisions hollow man mike mcdaniel you wake up and they're like hey we're firing somebody and then they're like it's chris greer you got to stay mike mcdaniel hollow man he was he wants out so fucking bad dude san francisian i mean you you take a look at him that's like being heard of you yeah yeah that's exactly what i was not to say yeah exactly it looks like jd

Vance's wife, dude. What? What? Look it up. Oh, I get it. He doesn't look like J.D. Vance's wife. Jaddy Vance's wife has aged in the couple months in office. I got it.

For translating that for me. Thank you, Chris. I'll see the chat popping off. Thank you for helping me. Yeah. She almost, it's like, whoa. Jiminy Christmas. Hallow May has to be what, the Falcons kicker, right?

Missing extra point the tide of game. Yeah. Guess the pet? Yeah, Parker, Romo. man for sure yeah just um yeah nothing nothing more to be said about that the poor guy stel memorial uh i was gonna i was gonna give it to brian burns but i was i already couldn't wait for to go off on my tangent so i'll give it to brian burns my next two go ahead shtel you doing scel facts go ahead yeah i'm i was just going to say i'm i was being kind of lazy but at the same time it's warranted

My STL and my game ball is going to Cam Little. Cam, last name little, but my leg is big. Legs big. My leg is big, man. Yeah. And damn, it was one yard away from what you call it too. Imagine if that 68er, if it happened to be 6.7. No, 67.

Oh. You don't get it, Chris. You don't either because nobody hate that. No, nobody does. No, the NFL does because the NFL literally has the rap song. I understand what it's from. Because what is 6-7 mean? It's a highway that the guy's talking about going to kill somebody on.

That's why it's- Is that what my kids are walking around saying? Yes. Yes. Yes. No, no. So it's, it's, the, the meme stems from like, it was like an announcer saying. An Italian brain-rot video, dude.

Yeah, it's just a brain-rot video. We all sound like such a boomer, shouldn't explain something. You guys, you guys think that. I don't think anybody knows the actual origin. Dude, I can't wait to tell my kids. It's the song the NFL is playing during the commercial. No, but it's like a quote, too. Somebody says,

Do, do, do. It's literally the rap guy saying. No, there's a rapper. Yes, Grilla. And that's the song that they're playing during the commercials right now for the whole weekend. They've been playing it. The rapper is stated he's never put an actual meaning on it,

though some suggest it may be a reference to 67th Street in Philadelphia. Oh, so it's a Philadelphia rapper. A scrylla. So they started this whole thing. Scrilla. There's two different things you're talking about. The original origin, dude, I got into this deep dive on this shit this weekend. I fucking hate myself for it.

It was an Italian brain rot video that all the kids started saying because it was just one of those things. Personally, I said this before and I'll die on this hill. I'm more of a 6-9 kind of guy. Oh, Karen, 6-7. Can I do my SCL Memorial, please? So I'm going to walk home. I'm going to go home and I'm going to be like, my kids are going to, you guys know that's about killing your ops like you know that it's not about that what life's about Chris yeah I guess so dude

golly my kids are pretty moral I think I can turn them on this six seven thing thank you for the information six seven they don't like STL Memorial I do on uh I got to give Eric Wilson some love I was talking about biking Lions game he played really good man all that agap mugged up pressure cross dogs and shit in the middle that B flow was cooking up uh he had six tackles two sacks three TFLs and he was bawling. I've got an STL. I want to shout out big fella Seahawks D-Tackle Brandon Peely.

Running down on kickoff, forcing a fumble. That's going to be an awesome moment for a big guy detackle finding out you're on the kickoff unit. It looked like when there's like a doggy daycare and there's one big dog out there. Yeah, yeah. A little dog.

Yeah. She don't want to be. Because you go, they force a fumble and Nolan's like who the fuck was that? Yeah. Yeah. And we had to run it back. That's going to be you in Buffalo, Chris.

No, I ain't going to be me in Buffalo. I'm putting that in my contract. I'm not running down on kickoff. As a third down zone. As a fridge guy, as a fridge guy who was that de-tackle that was kind of like small enough and fast enough to like work his way on some teams, you know, running down on kickoff and like if you really get a chance to collide with someone who has the ball, as a bigger guy, that is the best feeling.

Because for one, when you're running down on kickoff as a bigger guy, as a bigger guy, it's like, the odds are, like, everyone's going to get to the ball before you, just like, because it's a speed, it's a, it's something to be. So you're going to get the kill shot. Like, you're going to either get the kill shot or you're going to get that shot where one or two your teammates, hopefully got a hand on the ball carrier and have them, like, stumbling or slowing down so you can, like, finish them off. But it's a gift and a curse with that. I've been, I've been, I've had my fucking. You've been finished off. I've had my clock cleaned on fucking, fucking, on kickoff before as a bigger guy.

So you got to look out, but. Ding dong. Game ball. Game ball. Game ball. I can start us off. I'm going to give it to Josh Allen for fuck sake. Well, barely hit the ground, dude.

I can't wait to tell my grandkids about Josh Allen. I'm like, man, he was six foot eight, 300 pounds. He was just. run around man he'd be out in the flat like this he'd just do this and George car laughed us who led the league of pressures he jumped up in the air bro man Josh Allen you should have seen it he was unbelievable couldn't beat the chiefs in the playoffs but it was fucking fun sticking with the bills Joey Bosa oh fuck yeah dude he bawled out Bishop you get you shout out bishop earlier he was awesome player Bishop is the guy that everybody's like whoa he played well he

hadn't done that yet. Yeah. Boas is like, oh man, this is why we brought him in. Exactly. Ten pressures. You know,

you think back to the F. title game last year, it was like four pressures between Rousseau, F and S. and Von Miller, so more than doubled

their output. Great game from him. Uh, you gave your game ball up, right, facts? Yeah. All right.

I'm going to give it to Sammy Donald, man. He was fucking sure. Like, he looked good. I know the, the commies,

defense is dog shit. sucks for Dan Quinn, but, uh, Darnel was looking really good. Complete command. You're talking about the ball not touching the ground. He did not throw an incompletion until after halftime.

Pretty impressive. Four touchdowns. He had one pick, but he was kind of crushing on Sunday night football. Sam Darnold, here's a game ball for you, brother. Brother. All right. We got all the game balls handed out. All handed out Monday night football.

We got a little preview, Arizona at Dallas. Let's talk about this. Let's talk about this too. Yeah. Talk about it too. So teams in the new quarterback, would you try to get Kyler? Because Reset's starting tonight. Do you think that like that means they're going to move up?

I don't think there's anybody that's like, yeah, let's take Kyler in that contract. Yeah. I don't know that anybody feels like they can fix Kyler. I think at this point you're kind of like he is going to be who he is. There's maybe? No, they're not that serious about it. And he's like, he's going to be your answer. He's your bridge at that point.

You know, like, I... Because that means, it does say something that supposedly if he is healthy now and they're saying, hey, you know what, we're going to still let... We like how... I would play Brissette, too, because if I'm John Gannon, I feel like I don't deserve to be where I am. And I'm a defensive coach, and I've had to deal with the Kyler thing. And, yeah, so...

I don't know, man. I, okay, over for tonight, a lot of points maybe? So Jerry Jones said this trade is going to be consummated tomorrow. There's no way they make it to the broadcast tonight without that leaking, right? No, but he knows that they're going to be talking about it, the whole broadcast. And they're going to be zooming in on him in the box, like, he's going to put up his phone. That's the one they got kids to say. Jerry knows how to do this.

He knows how to kill us. Joe Buck. Hey, Joe Buck, Joe and Troy. I dare you not to pan to him to. I dare you not to give him any attention tonight. What makes us think that he wouldn't be on the cast at some point tonight? Like what I mean, that's kind of the type of thing that happens. He pops up on desks and shit.

Yeah, and he's just gonna talk circles and we're all gonna be like, what? Yeah, dude. Yeah. Do you know how sometimes like, do you know how it's got to feel to be that old and try to like be in the public eye? It probably for having for him. You know, when I'm a little too stoned and I'm like talking to people that I know, no or not stone i'm like i'm like man am i making any sense like that honestly that's just being old that's how i think it probably feels like to be 85 or something and to imagine to have the hubris of being

like you know what i'm gonna fucking i'm gonna join the desk and and let it rip dude not to mention i don't know how to talk to young people man i'm starting to feel old in that way he's got to exactly you don't even know what six seven you just say six seven that's what everyone else is doing six seven means do do do do do one eight six on the ops, dude, which is definitely something we should be singing about, you know? It's my kind of music. Cowboys, three and a half point favorites, 54s of total. Rumors are that it's Quinn and Williams.

That's the betting. Oh, wow. Wow. That is the big one. Because they didn't play this week. We didn't talk about it. Wow. That would be a big.

I like that. Is it great? Chew. Bless me. Yeah. He would be, he would help. And they're going to get overshone back at some point. When they get overshone back, if they get Quinn and Williams overshone, I mean, you know, tough, tough team to beat. That having been said. And then Jerry just heard you, like, you're willing to come out of retirement? Man, not to play in that fucking state. What if Jerry phone called you? He's calling. Oh, this is Jerry. Imagine if Jerry called you.

Jerry. You'd be like, Jerry, I appreciate you, but no way. I'm just, you. joking, man, just like you. All right, let's see where the money is tonight and then we'll get out of here. Okay, so we've got, this is from Action Network, 25% of the bet, 25% of the tickets,

31% of the money on Arizona. I like Arizona. They're hanging that little hook there. I kind of like Arizona, dude. But it stinks to me because why wouldn't you bet Arizona? Because people think when they see Kyler Murray not playing

if you're like a casual watcher like oh they're not going to win and i guess dallas in a prime time spot and the whole thing but part of me is also like well dallas looks so shitty last week isn't the sharp thing to play dallas it's kind of i just want to see marvin harrison have like a four touchdown game give me an anytime touchdown facts call a shot damn trantic rod i'm going long shot i want jacobo berset to run one in i'm sorry i'm that guy no that's fucking awesome and At the rate everyone's doing damn tush pushes and whatever it is, maybe they'll get a chance on the goal line and he'll just, he'll run it in. Cardinals keep it close.

If we're going to do anything. You know what? You can, if you want to get crazy, you could fuck around and cross the seven and tease the Cardinals with the total of, you know, 48, 47. You could tease the total with the Cardinals. Or you could do a little special here, Cowboy. You could do a little underdog teaser special and go, Arizona catching 10 points and the Raiders catching 17 points or whatever it is. We know the Broncos, while we respect them, they're not going to beat anybody that much.

They're going to play it close. They're going to play it close. Fourth quarter. All right, y'all. Well, that's been the show. Y'all take care, and we will see you. We will be talking about the trade deadline and everything that happens between now and tomorrow. That'll be coming out Wednesday morning.

and otherwise see you later in the week for the live show, or not live show, for the regular old preview show. Take care.