Green Light with Chris Long - Josh Jacobs! Packers, Jordan Love & Running Back Contracts! Christian McCaffrey, Belichick's Fun Summer & More Price is Wrong

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

It's more freakshow Fridays! Chris and Nate pop in to talk some NFL, give Bill Belichick some ideas for his Hawt Boi Summer and celebrate the United States' surprise cricket victory. Newly signed Gree...n Bay Packer Josh Jacobs joins Chris and Nate to talk his free agency journey, the differences between Green Bay and Las Vegas, playing with Jordan Love, the market for NFL running backs and the 2024 season opener in Brazil. We finish today's episode with a killer edition of Price is Wrong and Nate makes a strong case to be included on Price is Right when the show comes to Charlottesville. (00:00) - Danny Hurley to the LA Lakers! (12:35) - Christian McCaffrey's New Deal (14:45) - Bill Belichick's Summer Check List (18:09) - Treylon Burks Potential Role on Special Teams (29:20) - CJ Stroud's Praise for Matthew Stafford (39:08) - Josh Jacobs On Fresh Start With The Packers, Jordan Love, Differences Between Appleton and Las Vegas and Playing in Brazil (1:09:15) - Price is Wrong! Want your Green Light Merch so you can look exactly like Chris and the fellas? Hit the website below and get kitted! https://stores.kotisdesign.com/yotehouse/products Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪(202) 991-0723‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: social@chalkmedia.com Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxWFAA-wuB7osdiAJyLOcw Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, so I got to ask you, you're going to open the season against my Eagles down in Brazil, man. What are you most excited about? You know, they said that the part of Brazil we're going until you can't even wear green at. Really? Yeah, bro. Why? They said, like, I guess it's something to do with the gangs and stuff. Oh, dude, I'm not going.
Starting point is 00:00:20 I'm not going. They said, we're not going to Rio. We're going to. They told us, they was like, man, it's one of them places where they probably won't even let us leave. A full team. Oh, damn, I'm not going, dude. The Greenlight podcast welcomes you. Thank you for jumping on today.
Starting point is 00:00:42 A great episode in the store, Chris, Dr. Fax. And we welcome in Josh Jacobs from the Green Bay Packers, fresh off free agency in the first couple weeks with his new team, Josh. It tells us why he decided to sign with the Packers, his excitement to play with Jordan Love and the wider Seaman Corps in Green Bay. He also talks about his career in Las Vegas. The differences between the two towns, very different indeed and talks about the upcoming season opener in brazil to start today's show
Starting point is 00:01:10 chris runs through a couple NFL topics we talked christian mcalfrey's new deal trillen burke's having to prove himself on special teams bill bellichick's hot boy summer and the upset in the cricket world we talked about cricket on the last episode and lo and behold america with the most shocking upset in cricket history and then to end today's show it's another price is wrong Nate jumping in this time Stick around to see who wins It's a great episode Make sure to check it out on YouTube as well
Starting point is 00:01:38 We'll see y'all On Tuesday Time of tape We don't know what happened Game one of the finals Drake put 500K On the Mavs Which is like the kiss of death
Starting point is 00:02:20 I did it first I want my money back You know I didn't put 500K on the fucking Mavs But I did bet the Mavs I would hope not No That's the more fun of that for sure.
Starting point is 00:02:30 The Mavs, right? People are talking about this, like, it's a really steep, like, I mean, this would be a huge upset. Celtics really minus two-fifty series. I noticed. Fuck, yeah, dude. Luca Donchitch, like, legacy-wise, three months earlier, there wasn't such a big argument for putting him where I think we could put him if they find a way to win this series.
Starting point is 00:02:53 I read something today, like, he's got five all-MBA selections by 25. uh dirk when he won the finals in 2011 he had four all NBA selections so he could be when you talk about like franchise history he could be the one he could be on pace to be the one he kind of already is but he is he needs that feather in his cap right don't forget he was the euro league MVP at 17 also yeah this guy's this guy is major legacy implications legacy alert legacy i don't know what this would do to jason tatum's legacy i don't feel like people are going to ever put him in a certain national law but i don't like jason tatum why why not I don't know but because everyone the way we talk about him like yes he's a star but is he like
Starting point is 00:03:38 a superstar superstar to me I don't see it like because like I just don't feel like he shows up in the superstar moments like I feel like Dalin Brown who's right next to him on the on the superstar scale jaylin Brown he between him and Jalen Brown are the same the same exact player to me They're the same. I think they're like one B's. Not the same style player. No, not same style. They're one B's.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Like, I feel like they would compliment a superstar very, very well. But at the same time, they're not taking the step. But yet they're in the finals. And they've been in the finals multiple times now with Jason Tatum. He's a superstar. He's like the six or seventh best player in the league. Maybe Jalen Brown is an imperfect compliment. Yeah, it could be.
Starting point is 00:04:23 Yeah. It could be. But all I'm a fan is like, he's got to be doing something right. I know it's the east. No, I agree. Are we holding the Celtics against them? You know what I mean? Like, we just assume the Celtics are going to be there,
Starting point is 00:04:34 but he's a big reason why they're there. Yeah. But then again, like, I want Jason Tatum to go out there and score 40 every night. Like, if you're going to do it, do it. You're right. That would make him the best player of all time. I mean, you know what I mean. I know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And here, I'm not here to argue over super star tears in the NBA. He doesn't need to score 40. We can let first take argue over the superstar tears, but it is an interesting conversation of like the legacy talk is always big in basketball. And I feel like Donchitz, like just a few months ago, we were having a different conversation and a week from now, if he's on the cusp of winning this thing, we could be talking about a whole lot more. Hey, the Hurley news.
Starting point is 00:05:18 This is a vague woge bomb. You know, like, I don't know what to make of this thing because as you put, as you put it with Shams was talking about JJ Reddick. Now Woj comes out and says like, hey, the Lakers are serious about exploring like a lot of like very vague language. And according to reports, Hurley talked to his Connecticut team today, which tells me that it's real. I do it. I'd do it if I were him. It's probably a $100 million deal.
Starting point is 00:05:42 It's probably a huge deal, right? And for an organization like the Lakers, it's the perfect time. If LeBron likes him, okay, and you have this opportunity to bring in a coach that you can actually keep on and like build a program, they talk about like reading between the lines. and you don't have to be a basketball expert to know this. Like I can remember growing up in the post Pat Riley era, the Lakers have cycled through so many coaches. Like so many guys that you look back and you're like, that guy coached the fucking Lakers, right?
Starting point is 00:06:08 And most of them didn't stay very long. I think the longest tenured coach between Pat Riley and now not named Phil Jackson was like a six-year coach. And it's been a while since they've had somebody that stuck around for a few. So if they could nail this guy and he becomes like a program builder, you know how like they have a program in Miami? You know, and Tom's building a program in New York where you have a way of doing things. System of developing players, which is especially important.
Starting point is 00:06:32 That's what they want. The current CBA where you can't sign three superstars. So that's what they want. They look at their core of like Awesome Reeves. You've got Hachimura and all these guys that like, you're like, we could develop these guys. He's a good young player. You know, like, like, I think this would be a good hire. I know a lot of these college coaches are really sleazy.
Starting point is 00:06:52 Let me ask you guys, though, like as a pro athlete, like how would you feel about a guy coming in that's never played pro basketball that's only coached high school and college basketball and has a reputation as being a fucking hardo well if the leader of the team co-signs the guy then i feel pretty good about it if lebron's a leader of the team and this is the funniest part of the whole deal now it's if this ends up being the catalyst this is the funniest part of the whole deal this is from an espn article today i'm just going to read it verbatim in a social media post responding to a podcast interview with j j reddick james posted on X about Hurley. He's so damn good, along with his staff, super creative with their offense. I love it.
Starting point is 00:07:34 It'll be hilarious if JJ, who's the other front runner for this job and for a minute here, and it could still be the guy for the job, looked like it was a shoe in, right? Because LeBron liked him. If LeBron got the light bulb moment that he needed to put the juice behind Hurley on a JJ Reddick podcast. That's hilarious. Maybe the Lakers are doing JJ Redick research and found the comment that's hilarious um but anyways i mean like if you're a college coach and right now like think about college coaches and the way the landscape change you know matt brought this early earlier up i mean jim harball the guy won the national championship in football is gone and now you could have the same thing with dan hurley here's where it's it's a little
Starting point is 00:08:17 bit different to me because like if you're if you're if you're harball you can stay at one of these these um what would you call like a little fiefdom like you've got you've got you're You're like a king, right? And somewhere like Michigan, while the NIL landscape isn't as robust as you think it would be relative to their success in football, it's still a big boy program. Yukon's a big boy program in basketball. They don't have the purse that some of these other schools that have healthy football programs have. So like things are going to change for Connecticut. And if he's got to keep that same standard up, I don't doubt that he could.
Starting point is 00:08:49 And he is a great developer of players and the portal and everything. But you got to realize they're not going to have the same money as something. people and you might look at it and be like hey before i get old and gray and i realize fuck this shit like it's just too much to to do all the things that being a college basketball or football coach right now entails like let me just make the jump this is a good time to do it if you're him and if it doesn't work out you can get any job in the country right the irony is that coach a has been advising the lakers right and coach k turned it down in 2004 and coach k is also the last guy to win two straight national championships other than billy donovan yeah maybe maybe he doesn't
Starting point is 00:09:25 doesn't want Hurley to win a third straight. That's true, too. But if you're early, you could become the first guy since John Wooden to win three straight NCAA titles. And that's special, but like you could be coaching the Lakers in L.A. You'd be coaching LeBron James. He was coaching high school basketball. If you're Hurley, do you take the job if they say you have this job, but we're
Starting point is 00:09:45 drafted in Brony? Matt says yes. I can't answer that question. Fifty-fifth pick, whatever. Yeah, like, it's, it's inconsequential. Like, Jonas's brother plays. for the bucks for that's what i feel all the time yeah yeah yonis his brother yeah yes he takes up a roster spot jr smith's brother got a roster spot on the mix oh that's interesting hey don't talk about yeah
Starting point is 00:10:10 that's great i didn't even think about that we were talking about don't you just earlier and and um i know i told you guys about this before but i don't think i told you this before like a month ago i came home and wailing was all bad out of shape and i asked them what's wrong and my wife was like she like rolled her eyes and i look at wailen and he's like mom says there's not many white goats in the NBA. Like in the car ride home, evidently they were in this conversation about white goats.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Because Waylon was like, were there any white guys in this NBA Legends book? And she's like, I'm pretty sure Larry Bird's in there. He's like, that's it. And he's like, so there's not a lot of white goats, huh mom? And she's like, no, you're not like,
Starting point is 00:10:51 that's just not the way it is. And sure, you could sell the kid a dream, right? DeVincenzo had a nice playoff for us. I told him. I was like, there's some guys. Show them on white chocolate. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:05 show him Jason Williams' highlights. So anyways, long story short, last three days. I come home, Meg's like, man, I got to tell you,
Starting point is 00:11:14 I went upstairs to the playroom today when we came home from the pool. And Whalen had Luke cornered. Like, he's just standing over him. Luke's in the corner.
Starting point is 00:11:25 And she said, what's wrong? And he goes, I, told Luke that I'm going to be one of the first white goats and he said I'm not and he's disencouraging me hey three days later he's a full on NASCAR fan no it's not I'm just kidding but that's your only option buddy if you want a sport oh play golf where you've got the best odds lacrosse yeah I don't know tigers got golf i mean like you know what i mean tennis pickleball uh all these undesirable white
Starting point is 00:12:13 sports i don't know what to tell my kids what if your kid gets nice and pickleball because by time they get older pickleball will be in high school yeah you're right it'll be a serious it's probably going to be a serious sport my 11 month old girl is going to be a scholarship for sure she's big girl yeah yeah i can show you some pictures last she is she's hefty so anyway Anyways, speaking of white goats, Christian McCaffrey, they just did him a solid in San Francisco. They were like, hey, here's 19 mil over two years. Or 19 mil a year over two years. 38 mil, two years.
Starting point is 00:12:48 Don't have to do it. Let's just do it. He's got a lot of leverage, man. Not only is he very clearly the engine behind that offense. Like, you could argue out of all the position players in the league, like there's no position player that's more valuable to their offense. Tyree kills the other one. You know, you could say Justin Jefferson, but that offense has not consistently performed at the heights that, you know,
Starting point is 00:13:11 those two offenses have. I'm still trying to remember why the Panthers traded him. Panthers traded Christian McCaffrey because they weren't very good. And by the time they were going to be good. I mean, it's still not good. That's what I mean. He's going to be falling off a cliff. Like right now, you still be able to use him,
Starting point is 00:13:24 but he'd be running in loaded boxes and the whole thing. San Francisco, they know who butters their bread. And not only that, he has a relationship with shame. and that goes back and you know like he's going to do that guy as solid and and they should and so it's just funny to me that that just white dude is reset in the running back market and it makes me think it might be white boy summer you know because you've got Caitlin Clark you've got Luca Donchitz possibly oh uh Trump's back which is not a thing that I'm excited about but but the whites are going fucking buck wild right now and the same thing.
Starting point is 00:14:03 thing with like you know that million dollar baby song that you keep hearing on instagram it's like a spotify number one hit internationally it's a white kid from woodbridge so i don't know what's going on but we are just having ourselves the summer okay take a bow fucking caucasians at home it's not going to last forever i hope it doesn't um yeah christian mcalfrey got paid got paid Tommy richmond is the name i'll make that the layup line today Tommy Richmond million dollar baby tommy richmond dude that song is fucking live soundtrack to the white boy summer um
Starting point is 00:14:44 bill bellichick's having a white boy summer he's doing whatever he means titamite uh was a transition there matt he's pulling the strings from behind the machines here uh went to croatia you know they gave him an award like a distinguished croatian award is that why he went went i thought it was about all the baddies there the baddies yeah well he's living that single life but um now i guess Croatia recognizes his his reach you know what i mean they say you are growing croatian culture and he said thank you very much and he said i'll take a trip to croatia so he
Starting point is 00:15:18 basically got like the the the version their version of like the key of the city type thing yeah what do you guys think bill yeah the key to the country what do you think bill should do in his his year off because i'm thinking this is just the year off he's already over there he should meet up with Yokic and float down a river. Dude, I saw Yokic on the river. Yokich is river rat. And number one on my list is get Bill on the river. I got a, I think Bill would, he's a naval guy.
Starting point is 00:15:43 He likes boats. I got a, I got a few things Bill can do in Croatia. What could he do? He can chill in the blue cave. Go see the blue cave. Supposedly it's a beautiful thing. He can pull up on, he can pull up on sail.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Welcome to Croatia. Visit the blue cave. Supposedly a beautiful thing. Yes, it is. Pull up the safe. We're a sail week, which is the mini version of Yacht Week. Is where all the baddies are. But it's, yeah, it's the baddies on the sailboat.
Starting point is 00:16:11 But you can also learn how to sail while you're there. And then one of the biggest attractions in Croatia, museum of broken relationships. I didn't even know that was a thing, dude. There's a market for that. And you confirm this, this is a real thing. Dang, these guys don't trust me. No, it's just I don't trust the viability of a business. What?
Starting point is 00:16:34 In Zagreb. What do you do? They said it's an emotional roller coaster. The whole museum. They like get ready when you get. They send him and Tom to the museum of broken relationships. It is a Baroque palace displaying personal objects from former lovers along with brief synopsies.
Starting point is 00:16:53 What would you put in the museum of broken relationships with him and Tom? Oh my goodness. Deflated football. The flake gate. Yeah. Yeah. The flake gate. for sure well i hope he had a good trip i hope bill does it all this year i hope bill goes to red
Starting point is 00:17:06 rocks i hope bill goes to what concert do you think he'd see at red rocks uh who would if he saw bon jovie he'd freak out what what artists what artists would um be able to get bill on stage i mean any artists would be able to get bill on stage really what artists do i want to see bill on stage you think you think like if you think if any artists ask who'd be like yeah i'll come on stage like oh i got you no no yeah yeah the desire would have to be there on his end that's what i'm saying bruce springston springsteen okay is that like that the white goat for you guys everyone's everyone's going is white boy summer a lot of boss being played any summer but especially this summer bruce yeah did you see the will levis sex tape white boy summer
Starting point is 00:17:53 that means summer's gonna be over quick right he's gonna be over quick yeah if it's anything like the tape I didn't see Oh my God He told me about that tape I didn't see the tape You know I haven't seen enough tape on Trail and Burr's
Starting point is 00:18:12 Okay Seriously I haven't There was a bit of news It's a slow news week guys So special teams coach For the Titans was like Hey this guy Trailing Berks first round pick Third year player coming up third year
Starting point is 00:18:26 He's gonna play some special teams Which is generally a sign That Well I know but for a higher pick what they're doing is they're putting you into a category of guys that we're not as worried about, right? You know this because you were the lower slated guys. So those guys are going to have to play more special teams. So when you go down to the special teams meeting, that usually means things aren't going great or they're trying to humble you or they're weaponizing special teams,
Starting point is 00:18:51 right? But he's also big and athletic. So it could just be excitement over the tools he has. Dee Hop has talked about him as being one of the most talented receivers he's play with. The perfect thing for him, though, is we have a new year with the whole kickoff thing. Yeah, you can carve out a role. What a perfect time to be on special teams. And maybe you do find a way into kickoff or kickoff return or one of these spots where they're like, hey, we have something here with this kid because he's a big athletic fast, dude. And he's played in offenses the first two years that have not been perfect. And I'll just say this because as a player who started slow my first two years relative to expectations,
Starting point is 00:19:34 hey, if you said, hey, guys going to have 10 sacks his first two years out of college, you'd be like, yeah, no problem. I mean, he's coming along, I guess. But when he's picked in the first round, you want that production to come up. And just as for me, I could look back and be like, well, that wasn't exactly like a proving ground for somebody to come out and get a bunch of buckets. I mean, there was a lot of things stacked against me. It's the same thing with Trayland Berks. I mean, Trayland Berks, not only the bad luck and the injuries, from what I understand, hard worker, guys like him.
Starting point is 00:20:04 You hear D. Hop talk about him. He's talented. They're not going to give up on the guy. Things can change. Lightbulbs can go off. For me, light bulb went off my third year. Okay? It actually went off the second half of my second year, but people can't stop judging your production the first half of the year and they say you're the same player. But something's changed. Like, you can figure something out. You can have epiphanies in your game where it's like, oh, something just clicked. So I'm not, I don't want to discount him having. that big jump and I think anytime there's a new coach that comes in and I had my fair share of them over eight years in St. Louis, it's an opportunity for you to prove yourself, but the opportunities can be, can be slanted against you depending on who the new coach is and what he thinks of you. And for him, this wake-up call is coming up year three where, you know, the guys who draft him, in the NFL, you're only as secure as the people who brought you in the building. And those people are gone. So whoever the new guy is, if you want you on special teams, you're going to be on special teams.
Starting point is 00:20:58 If you're going to have to prove yourself behind a really exciting receiving court, I mean, you think about Tennessee. Tennessee from the inception of the Titans has always been run through the running back. I can't think of a single time where you're like, look at all the weapons they have outside. That's who this team runs through. Yeah. It ran through Eddie George. It ran through Chris Johnson.
Starting point is 00:21:19 It ran through Derek Henry. And now Tony Pollard's that feature kind of receiving back out of the backfield. people have questioned is he and every down back this is an 11 personnel team this is a team that's going to run a Cincinnati offense uh the run game they get into is going to be is going to be out of shotgun it's going to be some gap scheme stuff and that sort of thing but they're going to be an 11 personnel and they want receivers on the field and so he's got an opportunity to find his way into the lineup and find some spots where he can contribute but for a guy whose versatility was the thing that people talked about coming out being in an offense led by Ryan tannahill knows
Starting point is 00:21:56 shade, but an offense that does not hit every corner of the field, right? Not that creative in the passing game. It's not conducive to you being great. And for a guy to come out, he had asthma immediately, as soon as he got on the scene, he had injuries, he got his face broken. He was in a joint practice, got his knee rolled up on last year, like from talking to people in the building, he's had bad luck. And I think, you know, you couple that with some of the tough situations that he walked into. I just don't want to give up on this kid. And I also, say this like to fans yeah when he showed up he had to be a j brown which was never going to happen but that's just not fair you know what i want to see is this kid you know be productive and healthy
Starting point is 00:22:40 and i think he's shown enough to to instill some belief in his teammates and why they wouldn't give up on him but i thought that was interesting because the the burks project has been one that's been up and down in Tennessee. And for Titans fans, they're going to be very interested in how this guy's used. I think this is just me saying it. I could see him getting dealt
Starting point is 00:23:03 this year somewhere that's looking at his upside and saying, like, if he could just stay healthy, we could use him. Well, hopefully he's getting some good last minute tape on film, because we all know the preseason in these practice tapes right now
Starting point is 00:23:19 when all this stuff is kind of getting sorted out. It's the time to kind of show like that you still hey like i still got something in me and it's got to start now you can't be behind yeah the new staff and i also think this like his last staff you know mike ravel seems to me to be like if i just reading tea leaves he's like in the doghouse hall of fame like he probably if you're in a mike ravel dog house that's not a dog house you want to be in okay you know like i've been on i've had coaches that the dog house wasn't was pretty comfortable you know what i mean Doug Peterson's dog house was pretty chill.
Starting point is 00:23:55 Grow had a dog house. But, you know, Al Groh had a dog house. You know, Bill's dog house that's like 100 miles away. Yeah. Like, you don't even know what's going on in the building, right? I think Mike Brable's dog house is probably not real cushy. And I would imagine as much as you're like, you're sitting on shore watching the ships rolling and you're like, yeah, new coaches.
Starting point is 00:24:17 And then they show up and they're like, you're going to be playing special teams. You know, so he's had it stacked again. them relative to being the first round pick. And maybe it's a mental thing too. I feel like football, like with coaches and staffs, like it definitely could be a mental thing. Like, hey, like, let's put it out there that we're putting this kid on special teams.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And even though he's the first round pick, let's see how he responds to it. Because I feel like they definitely do that to guys and maybe they want you to react a certain way. But if you react like you're going to work and going to do what you're asked to do at the high level, hopefully it'll end up working out for you. Production is the only way into this.
Starting point is 00:24:52 the situation. I mean, I can remember my second year, Spagg showed up, was not a huge fan of my first year tape, made me earn it from the bottom. What have you done for me lately? Put me as a third end, started Victor Adianju over me. I mean, we had some good veterans, but like that was a, that was like a nudge. It was like, hey, man, you're not to where I want you to be. And I'm not going to reward you for that. Like, you got to climb out of it. And when you saw your name, well, he didn't say, he didn't, he came up to me and we had the conversation. Oh, and he I'm gonna put you at third string. Not third string,
Starting point is 00:25:25 third end, which means I rotate in, but I'm not starting. So like I'm still getting 40 snaps a game, but I'm not running out of the tunnel with the starter. You go from why I ought to. No, I kind of understood it.
Starting point is 00:25:38 I mean, like I was aware that I was, I was struggling. You know what I mean? Like, relative to the expectations. Yeah. You know,
Starting point is 00:25:46 I'll never forget. I heard a, and no shade to those guys. No. Playing well at the time when that was happening. Do you, do you think it was warm? Or not that guy starting over me and I got a lot of respect for him and he was a good player.
Starting point is 00:25:57 But like, but it was a little bit of a like, hey, I'm doing this just. Yeah. And we had some veterans who were injured and that sort of thing. But did you play better? I play better because I figured the game out. The first half of the season I had not play well. And then the second half of the season, I started figuring some things out about attacking edges. You know, it was a three four defensive end. Yeah. Coming into play a four three and in the pros. So usually when you transition from like a two gap defense they put you on the edge they say hey we're going to simplify this thing and it actually becomes a little bit easier if you can figure out mechanisms to win on the edge but for me they stuck me in a six technique which is head up on a tight end which is almost like a different game yeah just
Starting point is 00:26:34 delayed and the biggest one for me is they have me a right end and so that's when I look at things like trailing burks and without sand ham crunching every snap of trailing burks or any guy that you as a fan are watching over the course of two three years and he's a high draft pick there could be one little that if they tinker with, it could unlock his game. You know, for me, it was moving me to left end. And then the next four years in my career, I got 40. I went from 10 over two years to 40 over four years. That's double the production.
Starting point is 00:27:01 And it was the game clicking for me, but it was also moving me to left end. And so I wonder if it's something as simple as where they have him used, how they're using him. And that stuff's invisible to fans. And it can be frustrating for the player in the situation because you're like, hey, I'm not Superman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:17 But I'm not this guy that the fans think I am. And so, or the new staff, and it's on him to prove that. And so it's an interesting look into like, this situation is like so many in the NFL. I would just always say, like, caution you, there's a difference between a player who guys are like, he's got no shot. And guys that are like, maybe he's just not being used right or hadn't been put together. I remember my first year I was walking down the hall and heard two veterans talking about me. And it was like eye opening because kind of had a feeling of what,
Starting point is 00:27:50 What, like how was he a first rounder? Yeah, how's this dude? No, no, no, no. How's the first rounder? How's long? Yeah. You know, and the guy said, I don't know if he's like a number two pick, but he's gonna be good. And for me, it was like kind of like, oh, but okay.
Starting point is 00:28:08 It was, you know, it's the tone of what I heard was positive, but it was also like, hey, it's gonna be a minute, right? You know? Which isn't bad. And that's not the worst thing you could hear. Yeah. You walk around the corner and you, you, you, you, you just, you, you, I was an ease drop, but I was just trying to go get lunch.
Starting point is 00:28:24 But, but I heard, you know, I heard that. If I had a heard, like, guys got no shot. Yeah. I don't know what it would have done to me. You know what I mean? But the dose of reality is that the elephant in the room is big for some of these guys. You know, everybody on the team, as stressful as it is to be undrafted, as stressful as it is to be a player on the 53 and maybe some things are stacked against you that the first
Starting point is 00:28:47 rounder doesn't have, but every day you're going to work. you're scrutinized and you feel like everybody in the room's watching you when they're not everybody's trying to survive right their narratives going on here and they're in this corner of the locker room but uh you can sometimes forget that you're not the only story on the team and it's not you don't think that way because you're you're you don't think that way because you're selfish you think that way because you put pressure on yourself yeah and so this guy's just got to start making plays and guys like him as when you start making plays your confidence grows and uh hopefully he can just put together a stretch.
Starting point is 00:29:21 There was one more thing I saw this week. It was C.J. Stroud talking about Matt Stafford. I don't know if you guys saw this. Yeah. But it was like the motherfuckers sitting in on our production meetings. Do we not just, we just glaze up, we just glaze up Matt Stafford. I mean, and what that said to me was a couple things.
Starting point is 00:29:40 Number one, like, CJ Stroud loves ball and he knows ball. He knows ball. But also the reaction of people, the claims he made was like, Stafford makes some Tom Brady, type throws. Like Stafford's like Brady. And then he said, let me hold on a second. I don't want that to get like picking out of context. But what he said was like he's that level of great. I mean, there's only one Brady, but what he's saying is he should be talked about in that echelon of guys in the league. And I think when you look at the way he's played since he got the opportunity in LA,
Starting point is 00:30:11 CJ's point was that, hey, if he was, if he had what Aaron Rogers had for a long time, he probably have more rings than he has now right he'd probably have more rings than rogers right i don't think that's a clown show take i think when you watch matt stafford you realize what he realizes and what i realize which is this guy's like the the the tape that he's put on past the age of 35 like there's only a handful of guys that have looked this good this late in their career is throwing the ball and i remember jay cutler saying this and inside the nfl and i've talked about this on the pod this fall when i said how long how long you think you can go and he said got a guy with an arm like that like a jugs machine like that can play into his 40s and um if he does play into his 40s he might not have the rings that some of the other
Starting point is 00:30:57 guys have but the top end balls that he throws yeah and the rare kind of no look stuff that he sprinkles in that's what cj's talking about and i think it also speaks to like the rest of the room i think gilly was there yeah a million dollars worth of game and i'd know gillie knows football yeah But even people that know ball don't take Matt serious enough. Yeah. And I think like the reaction that I saw with CJ talking about Matt Stafford is telling because that's America. That's like how America feels.
Starting point is 00:31:24 I'm not speaking for everybody. There might be some people listen. But it shows, I know how good Matt Stafford. It goes to show too, like how much tape CJ is watching. Exactly. And like for people who don't like maybe know all the ends and out of football and like what goes on behind the scenes, like just hearing all the stuff he was saying about Stafford, that's something where that's a person that's taking the time to watch the all 22,
Starting point is 00:31:47 like watch throw, watch the opponents, not just the opponent tape. I could tell he watches tape. Like, he's going to, you know, there's tape you watch to prepare for your team, and then there's extra credit tape where you're watching other people around the league and you're honing your game. And it's clear that he's one of those guys, or he's paying attention to the top quarterbacks or who he thinks is comparable or, hey, I would like to learn how to make those three. row efficiently. So like, let me watch some more. He's a ball lover, dude. Yeah. And, and, and, and I'll say this, like, I don't think if you asked every quarterback in the league how Matt Stafford played, they would light up the same way last year, especially not a rookie. You think about all the things
Starting point is 00:32:26 on a rookie's plate and he's still taking the time to watch elective tape. No shade at Kyler, but we've talked about Kyler's propensity to play video games and not study football. Yeah. In short, yeah. If you ask Kyler, as a rookie year, like, how do you think Matt Stafer's played? do you think you'd have that same answer? I don't know. And I don't know. Even some of the elite ones, I don't know that Josh Allen's sitting there watching loads of tape of other people.
Starting point is 00:32:49 It also shows confidence in himself to be able to admit how great somebody else is. Yeah, it's cool to give props to people. Well, he later gave his top five. Who was his top five? It was Lamar and... He put himself three, right? Yeah, yeah. I had of Josh Allen.
Starting point is 00:33:08 It was Mahomes and Lamar. himself and then Josh Allen and everybody else behind him. Man, a little Joe Burrow. Oh, he put DAC five. See, that's where I disagree. Well, I think he's doing that because his newfound co-hosts and all his. Micah. His market and stuff is Micah.
Starting point is 00:33:28 But not that I would think Micah would even like want him to put him. I go, I go Pat. Now, but then he leaves off of last year. Okay, now I have an issue. because then he leaves Matt out. I would put, I would put, now this is tough
Starting point is 00:33:45 because if you're doing it off last year, then DAC maybe is in the conversation. My top five quarterbacks are Pat, Josh, C.J., Burrow, and Lamar. Those are the top five quarterbacks in the league to me. And then outside of them, you've got some guys knocking on the door.
Starting point is 00:34:02 You've got a guy like Justin Herbert, who if he put it together for you, you'd be like, oh, he's top five. Richardson, if he doesn't get hurt, he's looking like he's going to start cooking man that's a lot of fucking that's a lot of cooking to get up in that echelon and he's got that back tat that you know by the way like what's with the getting put to sleep to get tattoos yeah no you got to stay awake like that's seven hours i know did he get put to sleep yeah seven hours
Starting point is 00:34:27 oh oh no you think like you just got to i want my quarterback staying awake to get tattoos but like you got yours done like over like a bunch of different sessions yeah my back real that's a seven hour tattoo. Yeah. That's it. But that's, and that was quick, right? That's too quick for that back piece. No. So like the way they do it is they put you to sleep and there's like seven artists. Oh, he's got seven artists. Or I don't know if it's seven. I had this multiple. I had one artist did 36 hours on my tattoo. But that was like 36 different sessions. No, no, it was in like three or four eight hours sessions. Oh, wow. I'll sit for eight hours. I've sat for 12 hours before. That's crazy. I'm a glutton for punishment. I don't care about like,
Starting point is 00:35:07 Like I'm sick, dude. Shit. We need to sign them up. Speaking of certain things, you need to go on the Mr. Beast Challenge. Why? Do you think you could do that? Like,
Starting point is 00:35:18 what if Mr. Beast was like, just sit here for eight hours? And get a tattoo? Or just do any, like, no, sit here, be quiet. You just have to sit there for any of it. Yes. Look, Chris would be like, I love that.
Starting point is 00:35:29 You're taking my phone? You're taking my phone? Yeah, dude. I told him the other day, I deleted Twitter and Instagram off my phone, and he started laughing. I'm like, what? Is it?
Starting point is 00:35:37 Has it gotten that crazy that that's weird? Like that I'd rather not? No, it's not. I just like, it's always funny because... Pull up your phone. Pull up your hours on your phone. Since I've known you, since I've known you, like, you've done this so many times.
Starting point is 00:35:52 Yeah, no question, no question. But I'm not saying it's final. That's why it's, no, and I don't think it is. That's why it's always just funny to me. Like, I got to open it up in the fall again, you know, see what's going on? My thing is, I don't know if you could say, like, maybe you can, but like, what was the last poll?
Starting point is 00:36:07 that you saw that you're like you know what fuck this shit it's really it's just it's a cumulative like like just reading comments under post yes getting sucked into the negativity not my post no my post I'm talking about just like this random stuff I'll creep the comments oh my man humanity is the whole bro the whole you can get in real fast you might be hitting cricket at the right time uh because the u.s team just stunned pak Pakistan at the men's t-tube 20 cricket world cup oh shit upset alert biggest upset in that in cricket's history and hit cricket history what's the like final score uh i don't know if it's oh my god and we coming up damn white boy summer wait is it just like i tell you there's white boy summer what is our
Starting point is 00:36:55 is our cricket team just a bunch of white boys or is it just like mix what does it look like what does it look like probably looks like the master's dinner i wonder if it's a bunch of like pakistan guys like from america yeah yeah like french soccer Yeah. That's what they do, right? Yeah. Yeah. But, like, I mean, it's just like, I mean, just like Joe L&B, like, if he plays for USA, he's really from, he's really from France, right? There's some brothers out there.
Starting point is 00:37:19 Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Dang. Now everyone got to get hype and we got to act like we fuck with cricket. Yeah. We got to act like we fuck with cricket. These guys, who's the main player?
Starting point is 00:37:32 We got to get these guys on some podcast. Uh-huh. You got to explain to us. Do you think the international community is going to get it? gate keep cricket when we get into it. Oh. Do you think I care? I really don't.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I met a guy at Darden towel. He was playing cricket the other day. I know everything there is no. What other? Those bats called trivia. Do you know? Look, Matt. Paddle.
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Starting point is 00:39:05 showing off your green light merch. It's quality, quality threads here. Okay, wouldn't do it any other way. We got a running back here today. Running back just got paid, man. And a change of scenery for Josh Jacobs, one of the hardest running backs in the league, a throwback in my eyes. Welcome to the show, dude. How are you feeling?
Starting point is 00:39:26 I feel pretty good, man. Can't complain. It's been fun so far. Can't really complain. What's up with the big, like, Vegas to Appleton? Like, what do we make of it so far? What are the pros and cons of playing in Vegas? And then what do you see so far in Green Bay?
Starting point is 00:39:42 I'm just talking about the city. I would say the biggest thing that I noticed as different is everything closed early as hell. Oh, yeah, like, 8 o'clock, you'd be like, you can't really get no food after 8. You're like, damn. But that's the biggest thing. I think it's very, like, peaceful, too. I heard, though. I like that.
Starting point is 00:40:00 I think that's the best thing, really, to me, that being out here is just how quiet it is, how friendly it is, too. Like, a lot of people really. Is the Dordas situation kind of suspect? back? Well, something. Yeah, but like I said, like if it get late, you'd be better. You better get up. You better get up and move around. That's the worst. You got to have some stuff in the freezer. But let me ask you this. Just moving from Vegas to out there, Wisconsin, do you worry about how you're going to be able to get your hair done out there? You know what's funny is that's something I thought about. So my hair lady, actually, she stays in LA. So she flies out every two weeks. Oh, okay. There we go. Nice.
Starting point is 00:40:38 Yeah, so she just came out of her like a couple of days ago. That's funny. That's so funny. Do you have, like down in Tuscaloosa it got cold, but what was the coldest game you played in the SEC? And have you played in a game that was pretty cold in the pros yet? Not, well, yeah, the pros, the coldest game I've ever played it. I think it was in Cleveland. We got every, every weather that day.
Starting point is 00:41:03 We got rain, sleep, and snow all in one day. Yeah. So that was probably like the crazy, it's like cold. It's like cold as game. High school, I played in some cold games, but besides that, man, not too many. Do you feel like when it gets cold, it's advantage you because people don't want to tackle? Exactly. For offensive players, it's smooth.
Starting point is 00:41:21 I tell you all the time. Like, you don't really be cold until halftime. You know, you come out wet. If you don't change, you come out wet, you be cold. But, like, during the game, you be pretty good. You know what I'm saying? So hopefully, man, we play in a lot of cold games. And, I mean, to me, I look at it as a bright side.
Starting point is 00:41:38 because obviously, you know, it just makes defenders not want to hit you for real. Have you thought about if you're going to be a nose sleeve or sleeve guy when it gets really cold out there? Man. I think it just depends on my mood that day. It really good because, like, all the type of dude that, sometimes I wear long sleeves in the heat. So, like, it just kind of depends on what I'm feeling. Yeah, but is it hard to keep the ball tucked when you got that sleeve? Like, is that something you guys have to worry about?
Starting point is 00:42:06 Not really. Not if you, not if that's how you practice and you get used to, like, practicing like that, then not really. But I think if it's something like if you go to wear a sleeve or anything, if you just try to do it that day, definitely. Yeah. Yeah. But it does look good sometimes. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:21 It makes you feel faster, dude. For sure. For me, that was a big help. And I like the cold, too, because I felt like it slowed the fast guys down. It made me the same speed as everybody. So what was it football-wise? You know, because, like, obviously, replacing Aaron Jones. I don't like saying replacing because you guys are different players
Starting point is 00:42:39 and obviously you're a great player in your own right. But his style plays one way. Yours is a little bit different. What did you see when you were evaluating Green Bay and was close with any other organization? Yeah, man, when I was evaluating, I was just seeing that, like, you know, obviously this is a really good team.
Starting point is 00:42:55 And that was the main thing when I watched film, like, you know, 10, you know, Jordan, he's very special. I think he's going to be the next, you know, guy in this league from a, quarterback standpoint. So I was excited to play with him and then to come in to see all these young receivers that we have and just see the way that they go about business, you know, on the day-to-day.
Starting point is 00:43:17 It made me kind of excited, man. I ain't go a lot. Like, to have a line that's kind of been together and, you know, for a minute and to be able to run behind them guys and they're very, you know, vocal and things like that, like you can tell they got a little bit of dog in them. It's going to be fun, man. I'll tell them it's going to be a fun here. I think it's also probably exciting because you're going to really open up
Starting point is 00:43:36 some of the play action game in different ways. Yeah, and I was telling them that I'm like, man, it's going to be fun because you don't know what the guard. Like, defense is going to have problems. Like, whatever, and if you decide to stop the run, the pass is going to be there. You decide to stop the pass. The run going to be there.
Starting point is 00:43:51 So it's going to be like you're going to have to pick which one you want. But that's definitely a first in my career. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, you probably is used to loaded boxes as anybody in the league. Like, was there a game that you, you remember where you're like, this just, this isn't fair. Like, it's a nine-man box. A lot of like that.
Starting point is 00:44:13 I'll be the game. I'm like, man, like, I think besides, like, it's a stat that I had read before the year I started, it was like, besides Derek Henry, I faced the most loaded boxes than any other running back in the league. So, like, that's why I'm kind of excited about this year because I'm like, hopefully it ain't going to be that way. Yeah, exactly. What's the key to running into a loaded box? Is it angles or is it getting on the edge? Like what is it when you come into a game and your game playing
Starting point is 00:44:44 and you know they're going to have eight in the box? I think the biggest thing is you know one guy, one or maybe two guys can't be blocked. So it's one of them where like, okay, if you see it, you got to hit it. And then you got to expect somebody to be there and you got to expect to give them something, you know, and freeze his feet a little bit and to be able to get busy from there. But that's the biggest thing with the loaded box is just like,
Starting point is 00:45:05 your escape routes change. You know, when a box is a lot of, you know, like, okay, if I'm running right, I know I can cut back here, I can keep it on or I can bounce it out. And when you got to load it boxes, it limits your options. Yeah. Let me ask you this, in short yard, is you're a running back that seems to be able to put his head down and get those extra yards. How hard is it to navigate what is a penalty and what is it not a penalty,
Starting point is 00:45:30 a finable offense for you in your case when you're a running back? and you're trying to get extra yards. Man, this is a great question because I got hit with like three of these last year, right? So literally, like, that's what I had the question. I'm like, man, look, how do I know if it's two against one, I'm not going to run straight up. I mean, that's just kind of dumb. And if I got to get, you know, a yard, I'm going to get the yard.
Starting point is 00:45:56 I was asking the same thing. Like, what do you want me to do, literally? And they only answer was, well, you just got to keep your head out of it. So what I've been trying to literally a situation where you can't Like literally, but what I try to do is I pick a guy and I try to pick a side. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:46:14 So like if I'm going to take on half of you Or if I'm going to go low, which is what you don't really want to do. But you know, like with today's day, like the way the game is play, you kind of got to, you know. So it's going to be one or the other for so. I feel like that is like picking aside just like tacklers. Like ideally we could pick a side. but there'd be times where you're running in full speed and it's traffic man and and i feel for a dude
Starting point is 00:46:40 from the texans got a bunch of those last year he's a thumper he's a parryman oh parryman that dude is an absolute thumper and i think sometimes like when he got fined in the indie game i'm like looking at it i'm saying what do you want him to do you know because it's the same thing and i'm sure you probably feel for the defenders too yeah now definitely and like for his situation he's on the like if he get fine for that again he's missing games right so it's not even it's not even like okay you're getting fine and you just you're getting fine like you're missing games so it's weird bro because it's like how do you teach somebody to not tackle how they was taught to tackle for years yeah like you want them just to adapt and like basically for real for the deep for the
Starting point is 00:47:21 defenders is damn they're getting ran over like literally they want to be catch at this point you know but like I feel like I'm one of the only few running backs to actually get called for that in the league. But it is. When you got those, when you got those envelopes, those weeks, how surprised were you? A couple of them, as soon as I got in the meeting with them, they was like, oh, we watch this week. This is nothing.
Starting point is 00:47:47 We're going to throw them out. Okay. So, like, it was only one that I actually got that. I was like, but it was still kind of like tiki tech, because it's like, if I'm tripping and I'm falling, my head is going to be the first thing going forward. Yeah. So if I connect with somebody, it's like, I can't control that. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:48:04 Like, it was like one of them situations, but it is what it is. Totally, especially now that you got the money where you could just. No, but no one. Don't take, don't take my mind. I think I'll put my head down a little bit. Is there another position group you're the most excited about walking into Green Bay, like offense or defense where you just want to see those guys perform? I love their D-line.
Starting point is 00:48:25 I love the wide outs. Like, has any one group stood out to you? I mean, you know, obviously. just watching RG practice every day. I came with to see him in the game, you know, and KC. Just watching them in practice. And, you know, actually playing against them too. Just being able to see that on a week-to-week basis,
Starting point is 00:48:45 I think I'm very interesting in. And, you know, coming in with Kishan and playing at Demo with Xavier, you know, them of guys that I'm looking at too. So a lot of the guys that I kind of already know, you know, but seeing them come alone and develop a lot along the way. I'm definitely looking for it to watch them for like. Rashon Gary's, when he's on, he's as good as anybody. I mean, that dude is just a, he's a fucking rolling ball of butcher knives.
Starting point is 00:49:14 No, he brings that every day too. He just, yeah, it's straight line power and he's got stuff off of it. Who's a D-line that, you know, you think affects the line of scrimmage in a way that you remember it? And whether it was in the AFC West or playing other D-lines where you're like, these guys reset the line of scrimmage and make it hard for us to get our plays off i mean going to guess k c definitely um chris jones for so like but see the thing about chris zones is like when he's playing like when he went like when he in his mind that he want to play like he's a dog you know what i'm saying like he he's just he's a difference maker on the field um i mean you see
Starting point is 00:49:52 guys like dexter lawrence and um quentin williams like them are guys where you be like okay you got to take a double team and even then they kind of still split in the double team you like damn you know them are guys that i definitely could say like going against was a little match up do you do you prefer i know you had the fullback some and some without the full do you do you prefer running behind a fullback or how does that change your style of play or does it change because the way you can move tight ends now it's all the same yeah to me it's not it's not big of a difference um i i do think that fullbacks should be used in this game i don't i don't think that is something that place should be used to be completely just out of the game of football.
Starting point is 00:50:31 But to me, it don't really make that big of a difference I know. It's definitely different depending on who I know is in front of me. Because, like, if I know if I got a foreback in front of me that I know, he's going to be exactly where he needs to be and he's going to get that block, then it's like, okay, I'm going to be comfortable running behind them, you know. And I've been fortunate to have that in two different forebacks, you know. One of them, the highest paid foreback right now is Alec Engel. And then the one I have,
Starting point is 00:50:57 last year was Yaacob Johnson. They both was like thumpers. Yeah. It was going to run behind now. Yeah, the throwbacks. That was a big change when Antonio came on and you guys, I think, went less like traditional stuff, like less like 21 maybe or whatever it was and changed the style of play a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:51:16 I know you're not in Vegas anymore, but what did you see with the way that offense changed and did you like the way it changed? Yeah, I think it was, you know, they kind of got to. to get to say so you know jocs wasn't running the you know the offense so they kind of got to i feel like what they were more comfortable calling um so that's kind of just how it was but uh for me man in that offense i definitely like the fullback a lot better in that all yeah yeah did did you feel did you feel like as a back when you come in a given week you know as a d-line we would say hey we like these games we don't want to run games this week we just want to beat our guys like that sort of thing or
Starting point is 00:51:56 We were, do you have input as a back week to week on what you like? And how do you, how do you arrive at that conclusion where you're like, it's these five concepts? Is it from film study or just how you're feeling or how the group's showing? Yeah. So really every year I've been in the league since probably like midway through my rookie year, they gave me like input on the runs. So, like, I have my list every week, and by Friday, I had to turn in my list of, like,
Starting point is 00:52:31 whatever my favorite runs are top five or whatever for each, you know, like situation. So it could be red zone. It could be, you know, first to 10 or whatever. And for me, it goes off of film first because I would go through the runs first, like, how am I my one-on-ones with the backers, what do the D-Liamen do on outside zone and things like that? And then they go off of practice because we will. see some stuff that, you know, film, the other teams run that was really good. But in practice, it just never felt right. Or we never could, like, completely get it done the way that I watched
Starting point is 00:53:04 it. And so we'll throw it out, you know. So I've always kind of had that voice to be able to do that. Is there a backer that you're like, yeah, that's the best, the best space tackler in the league? The best in football right now is Fred for so. Fred Warner for so. He's the best, he the best lineback on football right now. That dude's unbelievable. Yeah, yeah. He's a about as big as us. Now, he's still, he's moving at this. He's moving at that. Side line to sideline.
Starting point is 00:53:30 Hell yeah, dude. Covering that field. I like Milano a lot, too. I always talk about Matt Milano. I like, I like, Malano. I like Baltimore. Yeah, Roquan. Roquan.
Starting point is 00:53:40 I like Rochuan, too. But Fred definitely got it for me. Hell yeah, dude. Who are the best running backs in the league? I know sometimes you come on these shows, and people are like, all right, give me a top five, but I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 00:53:51 Give me a top five. Yeah. Give me your top five running backs in the game. I would say my favorite running back is Nick Chub. Yeah. He's my favorite just because he does everything I feel like at a high level. And I feel like he don't even get as much credit as he should for, you know, making his office align look good, you know.
Starting point is 00:54:13 But obviously, you know, you got Christian McCaffrey. You know, you got Sequin. And then I like the young guys. I like Jamir. I like a brother in Atlanta. Bezon. I like Bezon. It's a lot of guys right now when they come to run it back.
Starting point is 00:54:31 I think it's pretty good. And it's a couple of guys that I think will take that step in these next couple years that you would look at and be like, okay, yeah, he's a legit dude. Do you feel like the movement over the last year has been positive for the running back position with the finances? Man, I think that a couple of us trying to keep it together. You know what I'm saying? I think that they kind of like gets up point. We're like running backs and really kind of safeties too,
Starting point is 00:54:58 except for the last couple guys that got paid. They're trying to devalue the position. And, you know, to me it's kind of crazy because how much that we actually do that go unnoticed. And that's really, we block, we run, we catch, we do everything but throw the ball. So for me, it's kind of like, that's crazy. We can hit more than anybody else. You know what I'm saying? We got to take so much throughout the, you know, year.
Starting point is 00:55:25 I think it's crazy. But then it's also a little bit on us, too, because we have some guys that, you know, they're kind of like first and second down backs. And then you've got the third down back. It's not a lot of guys that is one through three. Yeah. So, you know, the guys that's one through three, I think, is going to get paid.
Starting point is 00:55:43 Like these eyes and the jimirs, I think they're going to get paid. But until you got guys that spend, they roll and do a little bit more. I think it's going to be how it is. In talking to the people on the other side of the table, do you think it's more about this expiration date that they put on backs, which I, like, listen, you guys have got the hardest job on the field. So it makes sense to, hey, at 30, like, I'm not going to last as long as the quarterbacks. Yeah, right?
Starting point is 00:56:10 Like, you know, especially if we're in four fucking minute mode. But, you know, somebody like you who's running in a loaded boxes for a long time, they might say, oh, well, you're not going to be around at 33. Do you think it's more about the age or do you think it's more about, the way the position is being valued in a vacuum? You know, I'll talk to the GM. I ain't going to say his name, but basically it's just a position because, you know, you got guys that's anomalies.
Starting point is 00:56:38 You know, you got the Derek Henry's 30 plus and still getting paid. You know, you got guys that still playing at a high level at that age. So you can't really say it's the age because each player is different. Like some people can handle more and some people can handle less. So I don't think it's really that. But I do think that they need to judge players based off of, you know, what they produce, however you produce, like, whatever that look like, I think that you should get paid off of that. Because I remember before my franchise tag year, you know, sitting down with Mark Davis, and I told him, I'm like, man, I'm not asking you to pay me my word because you can't. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:57:13 Like, I'm realistic with the situation. I'm like, but at least just don't disrespect. That's all I have. You feel, don't disrespect me. Was it ever hard? Like, you know, I was on a bad team for eight years and no disrespect to the organization. We just didn't win. One in 15, two and 14, all that shit.
Starting point is 00:57:30 You've had to deal with coaching changes and in your young career gone through the ringer with this thing. And I know what that feels like saying, am I ever going to feel what it feels like to win? Am I ever going to feel like what the NFL is supposed to feel like? Because this is not, hey, dude, you're about to find out and you probably already realized it. That wasn't the NFL. like we were over doing some bullshit and so and so was it hard for you in that four or five year period or beginning of your career to say like am i ever going to get out you know like was that was that stressful no definitely like and that went in part of to like me leaving too you know like
Starting point is 00:58:10 and i told them i'm like man coming from Alabama like i went to championship every year i was there like you feel me like every year like i remember i remember coming to the league and losing my first game and I was mad not talking to nobody and a vet come up to me and like this the NFL like you don't lose I'm like so y'all cool with losing like you know what I'm saying like it was it was so different you know what I'm saying for me it was so different so like that was one thing like and then the most frustrating thing about it all I feel like especially when you got like me you know Tay and Max and you got guys that come in every day and work hard and you don't get the results.
Starting point is 00:58:47 And then to get to the point we're like, okay, I'm working hard. And I'm doing every little detail, every little step. And I'm still not getting the result. So, like, how do, like, I didn't have the answers. Yeah. And that's the part that was the most frustrating. It's like, okay, you do everything that you asked of, but you still don't get the result that you want and, you know, or this or that.
Starting point is 00:59:07 And it's like, you be close, but every year you close, but it's not, you know, it's not winning. Yeah. So that was a, that was a big thing for me too, man. I'm like, man, I want me to come back on a discount and lose. Like, I don't know how I feel about that. Yeah, especially with what you put in. And, you know, talking to guys, everybody loves Antonio.
Starting point is 00:59:26 He's a dog. He's one of us. He played, man. Like, when you're around the guy, so when he came in, it probably had to be tough being like, hey, I know I'm leaving, but this does look fun. It looks like he's going to turn it around. Are you able to, like, pull for those guys even though you're somewhere else? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:44 So like with him, man, like, and you gotta know, he called me the heart of the team. So, like, he was one of them dudes that he believed in me. Like, he, I honestly say that from even before he took over the job, he, you know, he used to talk to me and give me, you know, pointers and stuff. And, like, I wanted to, you know, come back and play for him and things like that. But also at the same time, when it came down to it, like, it was out of his hands. Yeah. Like, you know, he's like, we want you back. but it's like he can't really do much about it to have me back
Starting point is 01:00:17 because he's the first time head coach. And, you know, Mr. Davis didn't want to put too much on his plate. So he put people around them to handle all of them things. So it was just like that. But then not only that, man, I never talked to the gym or none of that. So it was like, it just was what it was. At the end of the day, like I told him, I'm like, man, look, I got every rate of record since I've been there, basically.
Starting point is 01:00:41 And I'm like, if y'all don't have enough respect to me to sit me down and have a conversation and we ain't got nothing to talk about. And it was just that simple, really. How fun was it to beat up on the Chargers at the end of the season? It was always fun playing the Chargers, man. I feel like the Chargers was...
Starting point is 01:00:57 I feel like the Tarasers. Every time I looked at the Chargers, I was like, all right, I'm about to go for a buck something. Like, you know? They just weren't built like that up front. Like, they had some really good players, but just top to bottom, they weren't built to stop the run. Yeah, nah.
Starting point is 01:01:10 And then, like, even when they were, like, decent on defense, I feel like it was more in the back end and not really the fun. So, like, it was always fun playing against the TARDIS. Yeah, it would. Herbo, I think Herbert's going to be really good, man. I don't know if you feel that way from playing against them. You know, I just feel like quarterback's got to have good situations,
Starting point is 01:01:30 especially when they're young. No, I tell him. I tell people all the time about him. He's the first dude I ever seen besides my homes, roll out to the right, flick his wrist barely and make a 70-yard throw on the opposite. it in. Like he do all, like, his ability that he has is so crazy. And he's one of them dudes that I literally seen one time Max hit him and he's still standing up and he's still getting
Starting point is 01:01:56 a ball off. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, how? Like, but he's a big, you know, he's huge. He's huge. But, like, he's one of them guys that, like, if they get him a line that really blocked for him, he's going to be special. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, he's one of them guys that he definitely has it. He's just, he's just not, he got to be in the right system. Dude, I'll tell you what, Jordan Love, I met him in Vegas. That is a big fucking guy too. Were you with me that night when we ran in Jordan Love? I mean, that's a big dude.
Starting point is 01:02:22 He is. Yeah. So, hey, that dude's probably tough to sack. And I just felt like last year, obviously you were in Vegas and our job is to watch everything. But I felt like in the middle of the season, it was like they gave him the keys of the car. They were like, all right, bro, we're going to like take the training wheels off. And he just looked like an elite quarterback. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:42 It was incredible. know if guys around there talk about what happened last year. Yeah. But what's the sense you get of what changed for them? What I told them, so what I told them when I first came out, I said, man, after our game, it was like a game or two after we played them. I was like, I could tell y'all as a team figured it out. Like, you could tell, like, they looked like a totally different team.
Starting point is 01:03:01 Yeah. And what I think what it was was, man, you had a lot of young guys had to play crucial roles on the field. I think it was a lot about confidence. But not only that, you know. when you get midway through the season, especially when you're on your first, second year, like everything finally starts to click.
Starting point is 01:03:19 You start to get in that little mold where I'm not thinking about, okay, I got this play. And if he, you know, out of all this to this, I have this, like, you kind of like, all right, I already know everything. So now you're going out there and you put your spin on, you know, the game. And when you put a spin on it,
Starting point is 01:03:34 that's when, you know, a lot of plays come to life. And that's what it looked like happened for them. All right, so I got to ask you, you're going to open the season against my Eagles down in, in Brazil, man. What are you most excited about? You know, they said that the part of Brazil we're going till you can't even wear green at.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Really? Yeah, bro. Why? They said, like, I guess it's something to do with the gangs and stuff. They said, I'm not going. I'm not going. They said, we're not going to Rio. They said, they told us, they was like,
Starting point is 01:04:05 man, it's one of them places where they probably won't even let us leave. A full team. Oh, damn. I'm not going, dude. No. People's and green. What color? Yeah, what color green?
Starting point is 01:04:15 I was picturing, I was picturing, man, there's nobody that, like, I was. The gang should be excited. There'd be a bunch of green. Not excited because they're not green. They're not green. Oh, they're not green. Yeah. They're not going to say, like, they're not going to jump you in and be like,
Starting point is 01:04:31 you're welcome. They're going to be upset. Oh, man. They're probably going to have like armor vehicles following. I said, bro, why are we out here? We do it all over. I'm picturing Josh Jacobs, like, hanging out on the beach and shit. I'm thinking to all my friends from the Eagles down there, like, just at the bars in Rio.
Starting point is 01:04:50 But it doesn't sound like that kind of trip. I was looking forward to it. I'm like, man, we're about to be, it's about to be a fun week. And they're like, yeah, no, it's not going to be like, I'm like, yeah, all right. All right, so cancel that trip. All right, we're good. Glad we got the inside. Just so I know what's the color of the other gang?
Starting point is 01:05:07 I have no idea. That's what I asked. That's safe. They didn't pick it out They were like, man, look, just Packages, black and white colors Because they was like, man, when you come out of We don't want no mishaps.
Starting point is 01:05:21 I'm like, oh, that's wild, dude. All right. Oh, fuck, that's funny. The color of the flag. I'm like, the flag is green. Yeah. Yeah, bro. Okay.
Starting point is 01:05:30 All right. Well, I'll be watching on TV. All right. Last one here for you. We asked Sauce Gardner about this. And he was like, I didn't even know about this. So maybe you, but the offseason schedule that they're proposing the NFLPA of UCS thing?
Starting point is 01:05:43 I guess Sauce doesn't look at his TV or he doesn't get on the internet, but I was like, man, you might want to check this out. They're talking about starting training camp in June or early July and doing away with voluntary. We've asked different players at different positions. What do you think, how do you think it affects an offense and how does you think it affects your position and the entire team if you don't have voluntary? And what would you prefer?
Starting point is 01:06:07 Yeah. So I think it could be good and bad. So I think it would be bad for, you know, the young guys, the guys that go into new teams, and also the guys that struggle with having a real routine in the offseason. I think that those are going to be the guys that's affected by it most. I think the guys that, you know, go somewhere and train the whole time, like, it's not going to really, and, you know, being in the system for X amount of time, it's not going to really affect them too much. But I think it's unfair for the guys that, you know, especially rookies and, you know, unsigned free agents, things like that coming in, trying to learn and be able to get acclimated.
Starting point is 01:06:49 So I think it's something that they really, to me, can't do away with, but they don't have to make it as long. I feel like they might just need to find a balance. I think you're one of the teams that guys would love this because then you can go somewhere warm in the all season. You don't have to come back. and then training camp is super chill the climate up there we we camped in appleton in like 2009 and it was like i was cool it was fucking awesome dude i was like this ain't st louis this is you know it ain't tuscaloosa or whatever by the way the last thing i'm gonna say to you josh we got an alabama flag over there on the wall right there you can't see it yeah because me and my boys this year me and two of my other buddies
Starting point is 01:07:28 we're like we asked her why i was they're like we just want to go to a football game like in the cc we wouldn't go see what it's about so we just took a trip down to tuscaloosa to see the tide and uh and uh and ls you that was a good game bro i fell in love with that place man when you walk out of that tunnel yeah it's like a movie dude bro and then they play uh dixieland delight and i was just like bro it was like the place was jumping we went to galettes yeah i was in galette's back in that back right-hand corner until fucking three a m dude no i tell people all the time I'm like, bro, when you walk through that tunnel and you, first off, the ground is shaking. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:08:10 The fans is like, so the ground, like, you walking up, you literally like, damn this for like a movie. Like literally, you run out that tunnel and it's 100,000 fans and you just seeing them all like turn, like turn. I'm like, yeah, bro, college, that was a difference experience for sure. Have you played somewhere tougher than that or louder? Do you think college or pro stadiums like SEC or going to Seattle? college is definitely lower. Yeah. There's more people, though.
Starting point is 01:08:37 The stadiums are bigger. Yeah, no question. You know, the stadiums in college are bigger. Like, LSU, like, Dead Valley at night, it's craziest game I've ever played in. Really? Or Auburn at night, craziest game I ever, like, them are different.
Starting point is 01:08:50 That's my next stop, Baton Rouge for a night game. That'll be the next one. Yeah, then, nah. That's a night game. But I'm going to be wearing my colors, which is Crimson. Because I'm, I'm going to have my kids down there at fucking Bama. I'm having, committing at 12 years old.
Starting point is 01:09:04 You're going to play Kayla D'Bore. All right, man. Well, we really enjoyed talking to Josh Jacobs, man. Great player. Enjoy watching you play. Come back again after a big win this year, all right, man? Oh, yeah, most definitely. We'll do it again, man.
Starting point is 01:09:18 Yeah, dude. Welcoming another edition of the Price's Wrong, Greenlight style. First down on the podium, it's Kingston. Yo, yo. Everyone welcome, Dr. Fax. Yeah. And Chris. We're kicking things off.
Starting point is 01:09:45 We're starting left to right. Another round. This time Drew Reed, Cowboy, Kerry is hosting. You won last time, huh? I won last time. So if you win, you get to host. Fuck. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:57 That's how it goes. And I didn't even play the game. I just, I didn't do, I didn't, yeah. There you go. The game. Our first item is an Air Vita Pro 90 portable sitting hyperboats. Barrett Chamber. Kingston's first. That's not fair. How's it not fair? $7,800. Okay. Nate. I'm going with $9,750. Okay. Chris.
Starting point is 01:10:30 $7,700. Matt gets it. It was $9,49. I was going to go under no matter why. So you would have had me do $1. I would have had you do either $1,700, $7,800.1.000. $1 or $1 more than whatever Nate said. Say I go $1. Say it's $5,500. Then you would have won. Really? It's closest without going over. Without going over.
Starting point is 01:10:55 How close is out going over? You never watch prices, right? Bro, I don't, like I have CT. So I might have watched it at some point. I mean, I did watch it. But I literally comes on at 11 o'clock every day. I know, but the problem is like, I struggle with like, noticing the rules.
Starting point is 01:11:12 I kind of just sit there. I watch the people. I try to guess the price of the item. I respect it. All right, next item. Next we're going to go. We're doing Mickey Mantles 1951. You know, Jeopardy works well for me.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Guys, it's like answer the fucking question. Yeah. But there has to be an answer to the question. I thought this whole exercise. Yeah, that part I understand. I thought this whole exercise was to get ready for the show that's coming to Charlottesville. Price is right?
Starting point is 01:11:39 Yeah, like, why are we talking about hyperbaric chambers? Because that's an item. This is a sports show. dude nobody cares about a fucking toaster the listenership they want to know what the athletes are buying and what the athletes are costing all right here we go and former athlete contracts
Starting point is 01:11:57 Mickey Mantle's 1951 contract value this is for the season and this is his first contract following his minor league contract Nate you were first I didn't know he's good yet they did yet for this season $75,000 Okay. Chris? $500. $500 and Matt.
Starting point is 01:12:32 $501. Matt wins. Matt plays the game. What was the total? That's a good question. It's $25,000 for the season. Yeah. See, there was someone making $75. See, I thought we were in the hundreds. So I thought maybe you could, you know, baseball used to be popular.
Starting point is 01:12:52 Yeah, I guess so. I mean, you were going up for last one. We had Babe Bruce contract. Babe Bruce. I mean, that was like 40, 30 years before. There was $4,000 in 1915. Fuck, dude. We are going, now we're doing memorabilia. And I want to know.
Starting point is 01:13:08 A lot of hooch with that, with $4,000. I want to know what you think, Nolan Ryan's jockstrap that he used to pitch his seventh and final no-hitter went for. Chris, your first. $250,000. Okay. Matt?
Starting point is 01:13:27 take 11,500. Okay, Nate. Without going over. Am I going to give this to Chris or am I going to give this to Matt? He's giving it to Matt. He shouldn't. I'm here to win. 200.
Starting point is 01:13:51 What did you say? I don't even remember. Chris said $250,000. Matt said $11,000. $250,000 and one cent. Matt wins again. It was $25,000. thousand dollars. Damn, just had an extra zero on there. I thought people were a lot more into
Starting point is 01:14:09 Nolan Ryan's jocks. See, I thought it was too. My mistake. That's what I would place the value of that. What a conversation piece like hang that in your basement. Oh, dude, how do you display that? It's got to be in a glass. On your person. You got to put, no, but yeah, you wear it every day. You get a mannequin for it? No, do you think he's got a shadow box? I assume it's a he. Can you imagine if it was a woman that bought this? that's borderline sexual harassment is it? Yeah
Starting point is 01:14:38 I mean to me that's a little creepy if a man was buying Marilyn Monroe's underwear What if it was the It was the streaking kisser You remember how the MOB had that streaking kisser Yeah she had
Starting point is 01:14:50 Oh yeah in the 80 Yeah What if it was her? Because I think Nolan Ryan was The Cannes motion Yeah The International Cannes motion She had a
Starting point is 01:15:00 She was She did have a She was running around. Things were bouncing. All right. Item number four, Gatorade's 30 ounce water bottle. These are those like at football practice, it got the screw top and stuff. So a 30 ounce Gatorade water bottle, Matt.
Starting point is 01:15:17 $6.99. Nate? $1.99. Thank you. I am going to say $8.74 cents. One dollar. Chris. It's $27.99. Let's go.
Starting point is 01:15:31 $27 for that? 28, really. Oh, I was against corporal punishment, but maybe not now. Usually, Waylon, I just can't get him to, I can't get him to remember that thing after practice. I didn't know it was 28 bucks. Damn, a six-pack.
Starting point is 01:15:46 You remember they used to bring the little six-packs out to, they're not cheap. Those water bottles are actually trash, not the shit on them, because if you squeeze them hard, like they never stay in and it comes out the side. That's Peyton Manning's prank at the Pro Bowl. He'd always unscrew it a little bit.
Starting point is 01:16:02 I think that shit's dumb. I really do. Those bottles? Yeah, those bottles are dumb. Yeah. Oh, the bottle. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:09 They're dumb. I thought you were saying the prank is though. Well, yeah, I mean, that prank's fun. That pranks a lot of fun. That's like one of the most, one of the most common pranks in the NFL. One of the most common, timeout. One of the most common is the water bottle open. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:27 And you love to see the guy because the guy will get showered with the water. And he won't stop making that stupid face where he thinks he's going to have a drink of water. You know, he's just like that. The fucking, what's another one that's pretty common? Something with your clothes? Do you guys do a lot of your clothes? Definitely like freezing your clothes. Did you ever see anybody freeze your clothes?
Starting point is 01:16:48 They'll freeze your clothes. Like they'll put it in the cold tub and then put it outside so the clothes get frozen stiff. Some rookie will be like he's got a bunch of frozen clothes. That's some like, you were in St. Louis. Yeah. like really fucking cold places and shit um that's oh oh tiger bomb in your tiger bomb in your in your in your underwear that that's that's that's like borderline of salt that's borderline of salt that's borderline of salt like they put a tarantula in kyle's room yeah no but like the the icy hot on like your
Starting point is 01:17:19 skin or your balls like that's just not funny and it's like no that's like a medical like that's like a medical reaction if you have if you put out because i used to have groin problems yeah still do my fucking groin. I pulled my groin throwing that fucking rock Saturday on the river. Pretty sure. And then I blamed it on the table. My wife made me move. I'm not sure.
Starting point is 01:17:40 You put some icy hot down there and that nut sack dragged across it a little bit. I'm just telling you, dude. Yeah, you go out on the fucking, you rubbing the tiger bomb on your, and then you go out and it's fucking special teams first period. You start sweating. And all of a sudden, it's just tiger bomb down there. And you, I've, my coach has looked at me and been like, what's wrong? like he looks like he's about to cry.
Starting point is 01:18:01 No football injury can make me cry. Tiger bomb in that area, crying every time. Like a baby. Item number five, LeBron James' 2003 contract value. This is his rookie season. And Nate, you're first.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Damn, why I got to go first? Because it rotates. Fuck. Where would you like to go, sir? His rookie contract? Rookie contract. The value of it. for that season. 2003.
Starting point is 01:18:36 1.7 mil. Okay. Chris? 7.5 million. And Matt. 1.7.1 million. But I think it was like 4.5. It's just over 4 million. So yes, you get it.
Starting point is 01:18:49 He was making what from Nike? He did, his Nike. He had seven years 87 mil from Nike. That's crazy. Oh, but then he'd get 19 illegally first? Damn. His rookie year was the year. He fucking carried that.
Starting point is 01:19:03 team to the damn? No. His third is, 2006 was when they made the finals. Oh. No, no, 2005.
Starting point is 01:19:11 2007 that he made the final. Seven versus Spurs. You're right. You know, the bus. I'm going to do the busing with the boys' beer thing. And,
Starting point is 01:19:19 you know, so you guys should come too, by the way. Was your teammate? They, so they were going to, they, I kind of made a little noise.
Starting point is 01:19:29 They had me paired with somebody that I was like, I don't know. Nothing against the guy. I just, you can drop me in here. I'd like to play with somebody who can delete some beers. They put me with Quentin Nelson. He can delete some of the garden.
Starting point is 01:19:42 No, hey, this motherfucker, all is well. They put me with a generational talent. What I assume is a generational talent at deleting beers. And I think it's going to look like that LeBron James team. I think it's going to look like there are literally memes of LeBron carrying, you know, Anderson, Verra Zhao and Big Z into the tunnel. That's what it's going to look like with me and Quinn Nelson, dude, because
Starting point is 01:20:05 I just, I'm afraid, man. I don't know if I can do it like I used to. I'm not sandbagging here. I've kind of stopped drinking. Me too. I go to the river. I have like three beers, four beers. You need to get my training. Six beers. Huh? You need to get into training. Start putting back a six pack a night. You need to train, by the way.
Starting point is 01:20:22 We take time out to educate people. Matt, explain what the fuck's going on with you and Mr. Beast. I applied to Beast games, Mr. Beast, New game show on Amazon and made the second round, got a callback. It's supposed to be a combination of mental and physical challenges. So I'm in training.
Starting point is 01:20:40 It's like a tough mutter. Something like that, but more like psychological torture sort of. So how many people you think are in this tier of progress? Probably a couple thousand. Really? Yeah, I think he's trying to have like a thousand people or more there and call it down day by day. Is it like Squid game? Squid game was one of his popular game.
Starting point is 01:21:00 He did that around. It's a big mystery, what it will be. Like, you can watch that. He did the squid game? The exact thing. Not with the death. Except for the death. But that's what makes the squid game.
Starting point is 01:21:11 With the money. That is just most extreme elimination challenge. But the person won, the one something million dollars, I think, on that, right? It is one of his most popular videos. Yeah. Well, I hope you get in. Thanks. And he said he'll never see us again if he gets it.
Starting point is 01:21:27 No, if he wins. He said, I'll never see you. Oh, yeah. That would be a bad. bad thing to get lost in translation. We like find his replacement when he makes the 3,300 guy cut down and he comes home without winning. No, no one's replacing. So yeah, we hope you make it. Item number five, this is a piece of gum chewed and spit out by World Series hero Louise Gonzalez in 2002. Chris, you're first. You know, I don't even remember how good Luis Gonzalez is.
Starting point is 01:21:57 Luis Gonzalez was, no, I know, he was the guy who ended my Yankees fandom. Yep. And he's not a Hall of Famer, but a very solid baseball. He was good. Yes. That little, fucking hit up the middle. Yes. He'd be biting people? No.
Starting point is 01:22:11 He'd be biting people? No. You thinking about Luis Suarez? Yeah, yeah. Different sport. Totally different sport. I'm trolling, guys. No.
Starting point is 01:22:21 No. The question was fair. The question was fair. I remember when Suarez bit that guy, I was like, he can't control himself. Right? When Tyson did it It was like different Tyson was like all right He's psychotic
Starting point is 01:22:34 But like when Suarez did it I was like he's got a tick Yeah That's weird Tyson was like I have decided to bite this man's ear He's too long You gotta be a different type of He bit it off
Starting point is 01:22:48 Like it's one thing to bite somebody But like Yeah Which to me I don't know why it made it like More jarring when fucking Swarze did it Because I was like Dude come on
Starting point is 01:22:58 Like you just did this. Everybody can see you. Tyson obviously didn't give a fuck. What happened? Oh, man. That's crazy. So Luis Gonzalez, a piece of gum chewed and spit out. So Luis Suarez's tea. So his gum, 2002. How much? $5,000. Okay. I'm sick. Whoever bought this should be deported. By the way. $410. I hope. Okay. Nate. $411 Chris you get it
Starting point is 01:23:33 It was $10,000 Oh fuck Get that person out of Shit Put him on the first thing Smoking to Siberia Who buys chewed gum If you're gonna do that
Starting point is 01:23:43 It was Darren Reville Yeah probably Buy one of like the goats gum Like Louis Not Luis Suarez Luis Gonzalez Does not clear the bar Of people I would buy
Starting point is 01:23:55 It's like an autobiography bar Some people should not Where's the Mendoza line for being important enough to write a book or for somebody to buy your gum. I don't think Louise Gonzalez is him. Respectfully. If you put your gum in an auction,
Starting point is 01:24:10 there's some fucking St. Louis fan. Oh, for sure. That would definitely be. We should do that. So if I'm going broke, I need to just start saving my try that. Yeah. If you're going to go and break out.
Starting point is 01:24:20 Save your Zen. Let's sell your Zen. Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of, there's a lot of Zan. All right. A lot of bullshit on eBay that goes for a lot of money.
Starting point is 01:24:29 Currently, Matt is in the lead lapping you guys for Nate has one, Chris has one. Archie Manning's 1981 contract value. Matt. This is a $105,000. All right, Nate? This is his first year? No. He's been there a while.
Starting point is 01:24:58 You don't even know the game. As I get this right, it was $200,000. thousand dollars two hundred one thousand christ gets it it's six hundred thousand dollars nineteen eighty one man so they had electricity and cars and like football was popular
Starting point is 01:25:18 they paid fucking whoever was calling the games like ten million dollars Howard cossell a healthy amount of money all right this is a bare performance nutrition 32.8 ounce
Starting point is 01:25:33 weigh protein powder those are those big jars of of protein powder. Nate, how much? It's on me first? Yeah, it's on you. Hmm. Those should be expensive.
Starting point is 01:25:47 I'm gonna say, the 2000. I'm gonna say. Take a shot. I'm going to say $67. Okay. Matt?
Starting point is 01:26:11 Oh, $43. Right. $43, my friend lost his life. That's a good bid. I thought it was like, yeah, I'll say $71. Chris gets it, it's $44.99. I don't know the game, but I'm on a winning streak.
Starting point is 01:26:36 It is on a winning streak. It must be a statistical anomaly. Clapping them cheeks right now. All right. Because he's putting all this extra bullshit. this extra bullshit. Fucking Archie Manning. Archie Manning.
Starting point is 01:26:53 It's part of the game. All right. A handwritten note from Babe Ruth to his mistress penned on hotel stationery in 1922. You can visit it at the Museum of Broken Relationships in Croatia. I'll say 18,500. All right. Nate.
Starting point is 01:27:17 8,500. 18,500. one cent. Fucker. Chris gets it again. Oh damn. Are we tied boys? $75,000.
Starting point is 01:27:27 Are we tied? 75 grand. Damn. This is stupid. That was spicy stuff. His mistress. She knows his fetishes. All over that one.
Starting point is 01:27:41 All right. This one. Legendary stick man. Brock Lesner's 2004 Vikings contract value. Nate. Annually or? annually for that season 2004 got it you have to think about what he meant for marketing
Starting point is 01:28:07 since that's uh year forte uh 400 and 50 000 okay okay chris yeah 200 and chris the notice okay matt 270 000 okay matt 270 000 and one dollar nobody gets That's a $230,000. I knew it. That was a league minimum? I could have been a dollar.
Starting point is 01:28:39 Yeah. Yeah. Oh, remember, hey, this is how you play a game. You got a dollar. Ooh. What's that? Before we started, Matt told Chris how to play the game. He's like, it's like I just taught Yoda something.
Starting point is 01:28:55 It's like I'd learn the Jedi ways. All right, Chris. The J has become the master. Athletic Greens, 12.7. ounce pouch with 30 servings. Say it again? Athletic Green's 12.7 ounce pouch with 30 serving. Oh, I should know this.
Starting point is 01:29:14 You should. $71. Matt? $37.50. Hey, tend to your microbiome ain't cheap. Oh, shit. Getting enough B vitamins ain't cheap. No, but $2 a pack is too much.
Starting point is 01:29:37 No, not for people that. their microbiome. I'm going to say $49. $49? It is $79. Chris gets it again. Oh my god.
Starting point is 01:29:52 Running away with the fucking game. Somebody called the police. He's having a slumdog money. But also too. Like also. Hey man. That guy was like how do we know. What prices are you looking at?
Starting point is 01:30:04 Oh, wow. Hey guys. The other day making strategy. Makin's strategy was to say he knew the answer but didn't give it. And you're like, you're questioning the answer. If Maten Makin played this segment together, it would take eight hours. No, if we put with regular items, we can get regular prices, not this extra. It's sports.
Starting point is 01:30:25 The theme is sports. Blah, blah, blah, I'm losing. So this is a sports and pop culture podcast, but it's sports and pop culture. Well, I don't want you guys to come to the prices right. yeah this probably won't be i don't watch you guys reggie white's 1993 contract probably won't be asked yeah you guys don't have the right attitude so is that the next question reggie white's 1993 contract value matt was this his first season with the packard you can't tell
Starting point is 01:30:57 him all that yeah you can't tell them all that he was not a rookie bro i know that i'll say six point eight million okay Nate drag my nuts one you guys here fucking this is the lead could be in servoutable oh man I'm gonna say what do you think the cap ballooned or did it
Starting point is 01:31:37 8 million okay all right Chris what was his number 6.8 and 8 I'll take 6.7 million It was 9 million Oh, go! Nate! I feel a comeback.
Starting point is 01:31:56 Who's shy, dude? I didn't know they paid him like that. Is Reggie? Leaderboard. He was in Philly, yes. I think that was in Green Bay. It was his first year in Green Bay? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:05 Like Matt said? I got paid. The hell he was doing all that money back then in Green Bay. Him? Nothing, dude. Yeah. Enriching the lives of others. That's what he was about.
Starting point is 01:32:16 Yeah, first year in Green Bay. I don't think money was a big, priority for him. Leaderboard Chris five, Matt, four, Nate, two. Next one is, we're going to basketball.
Starting point is 01:32:27 Bob Coosie's 1959. Can't go left. Contract value. Bob Coozy couldn't go left. 1959 couldn't go left. It's Nate first, though. Jalen Brown can't go left.
Starting point is 01:32:39 That's why. Bob Coosy. What year? 1959. And to think J.J. Reddick's getting paid 10X for a podcast. It's disrespectful to Bob Coosie and the Dolf Shea's. Bob Coosie.
Starting point is 01:32:57 Which Chat GPT named Dolph Shea's the sixth best player of all time. That's how you know AI's. Yo, hey, JJ. Did you see that? Let's go with, because I don't know. I'm going to say $1.3 million. All right, Chris. Is that too much?
Starting point is 01:33:20 Yeah. You got to take marketing into account. You do have to take marketing into an account. Bob Coosie's NIL. Bob Coosie would have gone off in the NIL market. You kidding me? Played at Holy Cross. I don't think there was a lot of attention.
Starting point is 01:33:44 Bro, he'd have been like Caitlin Clark times 15. Bob Coosie right now, if he just walked into a gym. one of my favorite scenes in blue chips is the old athletic director is shooting free throws and it's played by bob coozy and he's making every single one one cut probably one take one take all right so i'm going to go uh 200 000 and one dollar everybody misses it's 25 000 yes i knew that and then i wanted i'm buffed you guys might have been a team i promise you i have no awareness of anything you're doing. Look, major guys bet higher than
Starting point is 01:34:24 you normally would. Why wouldn't you just bet in a high number? Why wouldn't you just try to win the round? Because there's a strategy when you go first because you got to pick first. He's right. You got to anchor when you go first. Okay. Anchor. All right. 1957 Mickey Mantle's MVP season. It's his game used New York Yankees
Starting point is 01:34:42 pinstripe home jersey. It's the, it's the jersey that he wore in the only game he hit for a cycle. am I out? Are you in the golden site? One or two of these have come from the golden auctions website. All right. $1.5 million.
Starting point is 01:34:59 All right. Matt. 1.05 million. Okay, Nate. What did he say? He hit for the cycle. 1.5.1.05. He hit for the fucking site.
Starting point is 01:35:14 1.5.1 cent. Everybody misses. It's $375,000. Damn, dude. You don't know. Yay. Not giving it to Mickey Mantle. Someone they were giving it to, though.
Starting point is 01:35:26 Stocking worn by Marilyn Monroe when she married Yankee great Joe DiMaggio. This is gross. This is Matt's first. They sting. They probably stay. $21,000. Nate? I'm going to go with $700.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Okay, I'm going to go with $700. Okay, I'm going to go with $20,99. Should have gone the other way. Nate. Let's go! No one want those thinking ass. It was $5,600. Dude, horny people will do anything.
Starting point is 01:36:07 So wait, Marilyn Monroe's stocking is less than Luis Gonzalez's gum? Right? Yes. Wild. People are not horny enough. No. Because it's just like, how do you know it's to write stockings? Like, you know, how much that cost?
Starting point is 01:36:23 5K. $5,600. Somebody's sniffing that thing. It's gross. Terry Bradshaw's 1981 contract value. I'll give you context. He was the second highest paid quarterback that year. Yeah, 1981, yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:43 Who's it on? Nate, sorry. It's on me? It's on you. Terry Bradshaw? Yeah. Man, I don't know how much these guys is making. Let's say $14 million.
Starting point is 01:37:05 dollars. All right, Chris. I just want you to know what you put down for Archie Manning's contract in the same year was $200,000. Oh, it's the same year. See, I didn't know that. Yeah. But like, it's my strategy.
Starting point is 01:37:26 Yep. Okay. You said $14 million. I'll go with, uh, see, that's cheated. I should have. I should have waited. The information was out there. If you've been listening,
Starting point is 01:37:39 I was thinking about it. Yeah. I'll go three five. 3.5 million? Okay, Matt. Well, you already said that Archie Manning got six million and he must have been making more than Archie. So I'm going to say 3.51 million.
Starting point is 01:37:54 Didn't he say Archie was making 200,000? No, 600,000 with Archie's. So another miss. I thought it was six million. Everyone made up. My strategy works again. He made $2.5. He made $470,000.
Starting point is 01:38:10 That's an underpay. And Archie was the highest. Archie was the highest paid. That's where we got trick fucked. I couldn't remember what Archie got him. 181. Quarterback market. All right.
Starting point is 01:38:18 Leaderboard is still Chris at 5, Matt at 4, Nate at 3. We'll do two more. Oh, my God. Yeah. We've got Bart Starr's 1971 contract. Ah. And Chris is first.
Starting point is 01:38:31 Yes. 200,000 all right Matt the fuck is bars are you ass he's a two-time Super Bowl winning quarterback for the Packers
Starting point is 01:38:48 the greatest players of all time come on dude all around great guy by all accounts 100,000 all right
Starting point is 01:38:59 Nate you have a 200,000 and 100,000 I can go like tone mill he played in Dallas $201,000.
Starting point is 01:39:16 It is $100,000. Oh, I nailed it. That gets it on the head. All right, we're tied at the top. Damn. Last one. That was lucky. I was $1 more. I've been over. Chris Long's career fines. That's not fair.
Starting point is 01:39:36 No, you think he knows it? I doubt he doesn't. His what? Career. Monetary value for career funds. I don't know. Official NFL funds. Official NFL funds.
Starting point is 01:39:55 Who's up first? Chris is up first. Oh, I'm up first? You're up first. Why do I got to go up first? Oh, it's supposed to be bad. It's supposed to be Matt.
Starting point is 01:40:02 Is it Matt? Yeah. Chris more first last one. Yeah. All right. Then Matt, you're up first. That's really. So this is our last one.
Starting point is 01:40:09 This is the last one tied between you two. We'll do two more. We'll do this. No. No, it's all right. It's fair. It's fair. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:15 I care about the, Yeah, yeah, we'll do two more, two more. What's the item again? I forgot. It is Chris Long's career fines. There are two fines. Oh, that's... Is this conduct?
Starting point is 01:40:25 Yeah, it's conduct. Yeah. You only had two fines? I'm gonna say... He'll be two shoes? $25,000. Okay. Nate?
Starting point is 01:40:38 Can you say what the fines are? Are we saying what the fines? No, he's not going to do that. Yeah, I'll say it after. This is where I have an advantage. I know what the fines are. You know what the fines are. Contract, Dent, or men,
Starting point is 01:40:48 I'm going to say 47,000. Okay, Chris. $47,000. Matt gets it. It was $31,500. Do you remember what... I must have got him appealed. Do you remember what the two fines were?
Starting point is 01:41:14 Yeah, they're ejections. Carolina, I know, was one. One was an ejection. Oh, then this isn't accurate. The other one was for a hit to the head. No, I was ejected twice. See? Well, it wasn't fined on the...
Starting point is 01:41:26 It was not appealed. Yes. So you got, I mean... The mood just got two. No, say, say what you said to me. What I said to you? You say, you got the right stuff over there. He might.
Starting point is 01:41:37 He might. He might. But I can tell you this. I was ejected twice. You gave the finger one time we got ejected, right? That was in Carolina. That's on here. I pointed at somebody who threw a beer at me.
Starting point is 01:41:48 Like, hey, get him out of here. The two fines and suspension. listed in sport track are for a hit to the head for Cardinals quarterback Ryan Lindley, $15,750. I got fine for hitting Josh Freeman high. You ever apologize to that guy? Ryan, I want to look into the camera wherever you are and apologize. I don't know how that hit affects you today.
Starting point is 01:42:15 It could affect you in any number of ways, and I hope that you don't think about me when you forget your keys or whatever it is that happens. I think he'll appreciate that. Yeah, dude. I don't mean to hurt anybody. I never meant to earn it. But I hit Josh Freeman high. And I go home and I'm watching TV like on a Monday and Trent Dilfer is on TV. Now the coach of the, is it UAB? Yeah. And he's like showing a reel of bad hits this weekend. And here I am. And the next day I got a FedEx in my home. And I know I got fucking snitch on basically by Trent.
Starting point is 01:42:52 I respect it. But suffice to say, there were for the record. More than those two? More than those two. Yeah. So I think that one should not count then. All right. I gave him a concession.
Starting point is 01:43:03 He's giving me one too. All right. Here you go. Then it's still tied five to five. We'll make it three points so NAC can be in. Wow. I don't know about that. I love it.
Starting point is 01:43:13 Wow. Vince Lombardi's first NFL head coaching offer was for this much by the Eagles in 1959. Who's first? uh natives at that time he was currently the offensive coordinator in new york no new york had a good year he's coming off a big year 50 000 chris 30 000 matt i was going to go right around where you went that's hard i'm going to do it finally one dollar let's go matt gets it oh two thousand five hundred dollars oh this game sucks
Starting point is 01:44:00 G. Gigis. It was a good run. Did we tie? No, you won. Oh. Yeah, yeah. Six to five to one. Matt finished with six, Chris five.
Starting point is 01:44:11 The actual fine answers closer to 100 thousand. If you're counting the, the, you said I had one? You have three, sorry. Yeah, like, don't. You really want, like, nobody's going to remember who won the price. You're right, that jumped you, that jumped you from third place to third place. Yeah, like, don't try to say I have one. Okay, that's true.
Starting point is 01:44:32 Y'all take care.

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