Green Light with Chris Long - Julian Edelman! Winning 3 Super Bowls, Earning Tom Brady's Trust, Getting Roasted in Film Room By Bill, Best DB's He's Gone Against and What's Next.

Episode Date: June 1, 2021

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He used to get on me, like an older brother. But I was a kind of guy that he could get on, you know, because it was tough for him. When I was young, he used to get on me real hard because we had a connection with the Bay Area. We have the same representation when agents would be in Dubin sports. You know, so like we had like kind of a little thing, but like I wasn't like a stud yet. So like if I didn't do something exactly right, like he would like fully like, come on, Cholskinska!

Like hit the high octave. But, you know, as I got older, he would yell at me and I would kind of like yell back if it was like not like prohibited. Like if this wasn't meant to be yelled at, I'm like, bro, you can't yell at me for this. Like, but he used to like to yell at me because I think he couldn't yell at other guys

because they would tank if they did. You know what I mean? He's so, he's. he's like these guys have been watching them since they were like two years old i was watching him since i was like 13 happy tuesday everybody i hope you had a great weekend i know i am still having a great weekend i said let's get the fuck out of dodge let's get a little vacation load management here at the green light pod studios trying to take care of our players we ask a lot of them read taylor john guys get some rest make sure you're uh stretching this weekend make sure you're not you know sitting around

lactic acid building up, read something to a crossword puzzle. I don't know, read. Go for a walk. But just don't sit there and just get obliterated all weekend, okay? So you guys know I'm recording this on Friday so that we could go on this vacation,

this studio, this flavor station vacation. We need some time away. So what I did is I called a buddy, and I said, let's shoot the shit for an hour. Let's just talk. Julian Edelman, guy I played with for a year in New England. You know all about him.

He is exactly how you would imagine to play with, Uber competitive, great teammate, fun, you know, brings life into the room, loves taking his shirt off, you know, loves the selfies, but he's not a pretty boy on the field, all right? He's a dog, and that's why I love the guy, and that's why I think we hit it off in New England. And a guy that I didn't expect to be like buddies with years after,

I mean, we had a great time there. There's so many great dudes in New England, so many. But you can't keep in touch with all of them. Jules is a guy that I was very surprised to have a relationship where I could hit him up every once in a while. He'd hit me up, but we can catch up. And he's just a good teammate, good friend. And I'm happy for him.

Hanging it up. Left it all in the field. Maybe he can't go anymore physically, but even if he could, I mean, what a good time to exit stage left. Three-time Super Bowl champion, 12-year career. The Hall of Fame thing, whatever, low-hanging fruit. Stupid to talk about right now. It was only interesting for half a day, and then it got out of hand.

I just want to talk to Jules about how he's doing with retirement. What's next for him? Some of the best memories in New England and bust his balls a little bit. He's the best. He's a lot of fun. So sit back, enjoy, and we've got Julian Edelman for you. Here's Jules. Bubs, what's up, man?

you look fresh you look rested you look happy man i'm fresh i'm rested and i'm happy i'm just chilling you look cleaner than you've looked in years the beard is gone are you skinnier have you lost weight no i've actually i've maintained everything yeah yeah i'm in fighting shape right now just in case you know just in case you just okay about that all right so everybody thinks like and i know you're done because we talked about this or at least I think you're done. But now everybody's coming out of retirement, Brandon Jacobs. Did you hear about Brandon Jacobs?

He wants to come back as a defensive end. Tim Tebow came back as a tight end. That's not going to be as easy. And you've been out of the game that long? You can tell, I don't know if you can tell this, but we had talked a little bit. This is actually the first time we've talked. We didn't talk on the phone really since you retired.

And we talked a few months ago for people listening. No, you told me when you were about to retire, You were like hiking a mountain. I don't know. You randomly called me like, yeah, man, I just like bear crawled this mountain through these logs. I'm like, cool, dude. What's up? Yeah, you know, I'm just kind of like, you know, I'm not feeling it right now.

I think I'm good to go. Yeah, I do faintly. I mean, it might have been a drunk dial. No, it was midday. I mean. I still could have been a drunk dial because when you know it's time to go, you just live your life. insane that that part you just said you live your life like

yeah say yes to things that you're like ah you were like for so many years you're just so regimented and there's this like invisible fence around you like a dog and then one day the fence is gone and once you go past that fence you realize that a you didn't need that yard

to be so small and B it's going to be really hard to go back to that invisible fence life which is why I figure you know like are I wonder if you're feeling like there's no chance I could go back and do that. And it's not Sunday. It's just the bullshit Monday through Sunday. It's like the BS through the week for me. The old saying was they didn't pay us to play in the games. They paid us to practice. Right. And you know, that's the toughest part. Right now I have no thoughts of going back. I can't.

You know, my knee is my knee's pretty jacked up. Like I could go out and run right now and it'd feel great, but if I were to compound five days a week, two weeks, three weeks, then you get back into that process of trying to get the swelling out of you, all that stuff. And I don't feel like dealing with that. Like you said, I've gone past the fence. And, you know, I've been kind of institutionalized with routine and all this stuff that you, you know, I've been through for the last 12 years in New England. You know how regiment is there. That like, it's been kind of nuts. Like, what do I do this. What am I doing today? I don't, hey, Bill, I need a schedule. What time's breakfast? You know, it's true. I have my, I have old Sammy over here giving me red schedules.

You know, we got red schedules. Let's go over. I want to go over the week. Let's go. I need a red schedule. But it's just, it's a new chapter and it's, you're nervous and you're excited and it's all those types of things all build up in one. And I mean, I think that's just any any transition anything you know and that's this how I felt when I was coming into the league you know being a guy that wasn't you know playing that position having the transition like am i going to make the team am i going to do this am i going to train so now I'm in that same kind of realm of all right now I've gone tv I'm doing you know inside the NFL I'm at the production company I'm not a crazy vet in this it's new so I'm a little nervous but I'm excited to go out and try things that I've never got to do

and explore other passions like you're doing. Yeah, well, no, but it's so true, though, that you're probably going to be really good at this because you've been adaptable your entire career, like mentally and physically being able to play different positions. I mean, I can't wait to talk about the defense stuff, but like you've done everything. You haven't had like a roadmap laid out in front of you. You've probably had your own roadmap in your head, but there's never been like a predictability for you in your career.

You know, you've always had to hit the curveball. So this is another curveball. Yeah, you know, I never really had the roadmap. I was always focused on what was on my plate at that time. There were so many things I was having to deal with that, you know, like being drafted to a team as a receiver when you have Randy Moss, West Walker, Greg Lewis, they just traded for, Joey Galloway. Like, you start trying to play roadmap game, play numbers games.

You know, then you lose focus of, you know, the task at hand of trying to just get better that day and compound good practices for coaches. So I can never really think ahead like that. You know, this is the first time I'm having to do that. I'm having to look into the future and plan because I don't have something just given to me and say, here, this is what you are. This is what you got to do. Now let's go see what you can do. Now this is up to me, you know, to make that map.

There's not the map already, you know, made. I think it's a cool time that you picked to retire too because Jeff Fisher told me something really smart. He said, you don't want to retire in a J month. You don't want to retire in January and you don't want to retire in like July. Like guys do it all the time and when it's right for you, it's right. But the point being that like you want to think it through and you don't want to be like hanging on and not sure towards camp because that's a really weird place to be. And I just think you picked a pretty good time.

And the summer's a nice time to ease into it because there's shit going on. We're out of the Pandy now, at least as far as like bars and sporting events are concerned. So you're going to be able to like be social and see people. people. The winter's weird. The first fall is weird. Like there's no question. There's going to be quiet moments where you're like, ah, this feels weird. Yeah. I already feel a little weird right now, like with my body muscle memory kind of like, shouldn't I be in like really good shape right now? That's what I'm saying. Instead of drinking a beer on a Tuesday, which, you know, this is a passing camp day. What are we doing? What are my hands doing? What do I do? I got so good at drinking one or

beers in retirement. When I played, it was a thousand or zero. Exactly. And it's just like you're living a life of moderation. I've said this before. I think you're right probably recently in this podcast. It's like when you retire, you have to be okay with, uh, you know, a lifestyle that's right in the middle. And I'm using my hand to just go right in front of my face. But when you played, it could be either up here way above my head or down here way below. Like your worst Monday is awful. Your best Monday. you'll never have that again, but you won't have the terrible one either. You just have to get used to being in the middle. So it's a weird feeling.

That's what Freddie Taylor told me once. You remember Fred Taylor? Oh, yeah. East Monster. Oh, yeah. My rookie year, he was in New England. And how, you know, when you're in a rookie, you're sitting there and you're all over the place mentally, like new kid, new air. I don't know.

You may not have been in the same situation. You were the second pick. Yeah. But, you know, you true. Different expectations. Different expectations. Exactly. And you said something earlier that struck me was like, you never had the roadmap. I had a big roadmap, a lot of pressure. You were like, fuck it, let's live today, which is a great way to be too. You don't have the security I have, but they're very different like coming to league lives.

You know what I mean? Back to Freddie T. I was sitting there as a little rookie like I get up early and I'd go to the hotel. You remember the hotel we stayed at over in Foxborough? Yeah, I do. I like the Piccolo Pete's. Barely. I would sit outside and before the bus and Freddie T. came out and I would ride with him every once in a while and he goes, hey, Young Buck, I could see you're stressed out. You know, Freddie T's like calm, cool, collect, dude. He's just like a real cool, like, uncle.

He's always got like the best advice you ever needed. He looks at me and he goes, you know, there's going to be a lot of highs and a lot of lows. You just got to stay and kill, young buck. Yeah. That's true. That's the thing we've talked about in the ride. It was nuts. Yeah. I remember thinking about that the whole time.

Like, there's going to be a bunch of highs, which you're so correct on. In football, I mean, the highs are high and the lows are super low. But I was at a place, as you know, like, you didn't really have time to think of, like, the successes you had or the failures because you were moving on next week. You know what I mean? So I kind of adapted to that. And hopefully I bring that and translate that into, you know, my life after football. It's kind of cool, though, the retirement part of like, you die without actually dying. Everybody says all the nice shit about you that if you got hit by a truck, they would say,

but they say it like right in front of you. And that's a cool thing, dude. Not a lot of people get to do that. How did you feel about the outpouring, man? Was there anything unexpected, like an unexpected, like, an unexpected, like message you got from an opponent, somebody that you respected or something like that? No, I mean, a lot of it went to a lot of BS, you know, instantly like, all the hall talk and stuff.

So, like, there's a lot of hate on that. And, you know, I had some cool dudes reach out and I'll leave it between that. I'm not going to name drop. But you know what I mean? Like, it was cool to have that and to see the team and hear what, like, you know, what coach said and what Mr. Kraft said, RKK and, you know, being part of one organization in my whole career. And you know how it is there.

You don't necessarily get the compliments and, like, and that. And to hear, you know, Bill. say what he said at that level, you know, that's kind of like, if you, if Bill gave you like a compliment or a pat on the butt, like during the week, it made your week. Oh, man, you get like, you feel tingly. I feel tingly, Bill. Thank you. I know. Gitty, like a little kid. I do that to like my last year. Yeah. I'm 12 years at this place. I've spent 12 years of this guy. You know, when you joke around, you kiki with them. You know, yo, shit, that made my day. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And then you're like I better not fuck up in practice because he's going to think I was just being a dickhead in the

hallway. You know what I mean? I know exactly what you mean. And damn, you know, like when I got there later in my career, I was like, I'm kind of, I like to have fun. And I was afraid to even joke with him sometimes, but I couldn't help it. He's so fucking funny to me. He's, well, you got to, you got there where you could laugh. Like, you know, when you, when you're a young guy that's farmed there, like, there's a lot of things that you would want to laugh at, but you'd have to look around the room and see who was laughing to see if you could laugh. You know, like, if, like, Steve Neal was laughing, he's been there for eight years. I can't laugh yet.

But if I saw, like, you know, Kevin O'Connell, the second year guy laughing, and then, all right, maybe I can laugh a little. What's the meanest thing he's ever said to you? Because the one thing I always say to people is, like, it's very effective, the tactic of having everybody meet in the big room on Monday. You know what I'm talking about? Like, well, you don't because you didn't play for any teams that did it the other way. You know, it's like, you come in.

You lose. The head coach says, we'll get him next week. Break down to offense and defense. Not in New England. Everybody, including Tom Brady, including Dante High Tower, including yourself, Bill. Right down to Ted and the strength coach, they're all in there just staring at the film.

Scouts. We have regional scouts in there. Sometimes you have a coaching staff from another team. NFL legends coming back. You're bringing alumni in to just watch you shit the bed on. I mean, I remember Kobe coming in there one time. To watch film? Yeah, he came into a practice or like into like the the team meeting.

Oh God, you're like, please don't put the bag cut up up. Oh my God, Bill Tube, low lights. Yeah, what was the worst low light session for you of all time? When I used to like fight and practice or something, like me and Gilmore, I got in a fight with Gilmore. And like he puts it on and he'll just sit and rewind it like 45 times with silence. Silence. silence. And then when he stands up, there's like a little guy, there's a guy that his job is to go

run and turn the lights on. So it's like majestically turning off. Oh my God, dude. And then when he sits down, the guy goes and turns it off, you know what I mean? They light from the bottom up. It's like perfect. Yes. So he sits and rewinds it like 45 times.

And then he goes, he stands up and he goes, like, what the fuck are we doing? We, I mean, we can't have. this. You know what I mean? Just going on and just ringing me like, you know what, Edelman, you over here think you're a, you're a tough guy, you know, just getting on me in front of the team and like really, but I think low key he loved it. He did love it. I think he was entertained by, I think he was entertained by God forbid anybody ever got caught sleeping in the meeting. He'd see like one of the rookies like nodding off and everybody, I feel like I wanted to save those kids so bad. I would drink

so much coffee. I lived right behind the stadium so I could never be late. And I drank five cups of coffee a day. I hate caffeine. I was afraid. See, I was there for so long. I used to sit back and I dream. I was like, it was an entertainment

by the time I was older. I would sit and watch and like, oh, he's gone. And then Bill would go get, you know what I mean? It's just, you know, but it's really something to be said when you know, a coach I don't know how it is, like you said, in other places, but this guy every day for 45 to 50 minutes,

every day would break down three phases of the game. He could call each phase of the game like he was a coordinator. And he's called plays for each phase of the game. So, like, I didn't really realize that until, like, I heard guys like you come in and say, like, this is crazy that you guys meet every morning this long, and he's putting on a 60-play cut-up that we all have to watch. like I didn't realize that.

It's accountability though. Yeah. It's the accountability because if I mess up and the defense, like if I mess up on a side adjustment and you know if the defense is like paying attention because sometimes guys are just overduehool it and shit. But you know, if they're paying attention and like you get embarrassed because you want them to feel like you know what I mean? So like you said, it's that accountability that he always holds to everyone.

And everybody's afraid the same way. And you feel so stupid when you mess up. But everybody in the room knows, I'll say this about New England, ma'am. Some of the best, most accountable teammates, some great leaders, like the guys in that locker room. Like, you know, I'll never like blow the organization. I really respect the organization. I'm never going to, like, be that guy. But the locker room was amazing, man.

And I don't think anybody was trying to screw up ever. You know, but when you screw up, you're going to get fried in the big room. and it made me feel better to realize that probably when I screwed up everybody felt just glad it wasn't them you know what I mean that was the prevailing emotion in the room it wasn't like fuck you Chris

I was never watching you like after that Pittsburgh game I guess you dropped a punt and I was like oh my God he's yelling at Julian oh you remember that oh yeah I was like oh my god he's yelling at like it like I don't remember that because you're calloused but I just was like I feel bad for him

not mad at him how could I be mad at Julian and he's trying his best, but it is that fear and accountability of, is it going to be me? No, there was never really like, I was joking around when I was saying, like, it was entertainment. Like you said, like, those guys do a really good job of bringing good guys into the program. You know what I mean? Like the Devin McCordy's, the Matthew Slaters, the Jason McCordy's, the Dante Hightowers. Like, these dudes are like some, not just some of the best football players, but some of the best men I have been around. like bar none like family guy professional in the community like these guys do it all and they do it all

at a very high level like you know it's it's it's something to be said like i don't know what it is at other places like when guys come in and you can see it you know a joker if he comes in he's he's not really shaking you know he gets into shape he gets in he gets in the line because he sees that like you know these other guys we're all doing this too so but also the reputation of like you're opting into something and you're not needed there no one is needed there there there was one guy in my opinion that was absolutely needed there and he left but everybody's expendable so when you opt into that situation whether you're like a vet like me who was pretty good and now i'm like at the tail end of my career or a hall of famer that you know that's in his 15th year or a guy on his second deal

Like you might not get your best ball because scheme matters and all that stuff and you know you're part of a team But you're going to get your best effort out of that guy because he already knows what time it is walking in that building You know what I mean? Yeah, I mean that's all I knew what about defensive players because like I feel like everybody thinks about you and Tom and your friendships with guys on offense and that sort of thing You're competitive as hell you talk about fighting with gilly You know I know you're scrappy and it can get up ugly on the field sometimes, but was there a rivalry with a guy in New England that made you

better early, like a DB that you guys just went at it nonstop and he helped you? Yeah, there was a few. My rookie year, there was Willhite. I used to go up against a lot, Jonathan Wilhite. He got me better. He was a starting star at the time. And then, you know, Talib came in, and I was going into like, you know, four years in. He was a vet, like kind of a vet, but he was in his prime.

I got to go against Talib and he made me better learning against those kind of savvy guys that sit back and they wait for you and they're trying to play the quarterback in you with the eyes in the back field like learning how to attack those guys. Those guys were always, he was awesome for me. And then the next guy got was Revis. And when Revis came, then you're seeing like a little bit like an insanely balanced always on good feet, like guy that knew route concepts, that knew like down in distance. So, like, you could never be sloppy with the guy like him or he would just eat you up. And, you know, every day in New England, we did one-on-ones. You remember that. Yeah.

So it's not like we don't see these guys. And you're going iron-on-iron. Like, I wanted to go against the best. And then eventually, you know, Gilmore got there and he made me better. So I had a few, I had a lot of good corners, you know, that helped me, you know, developing the player that I got to be. Because, you know, we practiced hard there. and we'd do one-on-ones and, you know, I would say those guys. A guy that I had a rivalry with a lot when I was younger, Pat Chung, me and him used to, like,

fight every day. Oh, tough guy, though. I had to go block the force and, like, nine-on-sevons and, you know, you know, Chung. Yeah, dude, I know John. You don't know a young Chung, no. Okay, but I will tell you, he was the first guy when I got to New England that kind of, that was like, all right, man, let's hang out. Like, you know, you're my guy, like, so we go out drinking or hanging.

out. And I just, I'll always appreciate him for that. Like, he was a very welcoming cat. You know what I mean? Oh, he's, I just that's the Jamaican in him. Yeah, dude. He's just happy. He's like, Hey, man. What's up? He's super happy. He's a great dude. What about having a brand in New England? That's a tough one, right? Because we bust each other's balls. You always bust my balls. But, oh, Chris, your podcast or your charity. Like, I love your charity. And I bust your balls about all your stuff. But, like, really, though, we do have brands. I don't think we think about it, like, intentionally this is going to be my brand. But, like, we, we, you know, speak out on things we want to talk about.

We are entertaining funny people. You're way more popular to me, but you also played in New England your whole career. So like, that's kind of the juxtaposition of, I'm going to be a fucking movie star one day and I'm playing in New England. Was Bill okay with that the whole time?

Like, because you actually were able to kind of be your own guy. Yeah, you know, I was the first generation in that locker room with social media. Yeah. Like I remember when, when I was a rookie,

you know, our rookie group were the only ones on the cell phone. phone in the locker in between meetings and stuff. Other guys were, you know, shooting the shit and, you know, talk, you know what I mean? And now I'll reverse it. Like, when you get older, I was the only guy that wanted to talk with people when everyone else was in their lockers, you know, on their phone. That's just how it became.

So we had to get, you know, like with that whole thing in my world in ballpark just growing up with it, you know, I started making little pieces of content because there's a certain standard and there's a certain way you have to handle yourself in the media when it comes to football in New England. You know that, you know that, I know that. You know, coach doesn't want any distractions and he doesn't want any kind of like, you know, billboard material. Like, he wants you to focus on what you have to focus on every single minute of the day.

Like, he makes you think about football like that. Like, every decision I made for 12 years was like, is Bill going to get pissed at me for this or not? Yeah, probably. It's like having another dad. It's like having another dad. So social media was a way for me to kind of, like you said, establish a personality or a brand or develop content. And it all started, you know, we started making a little dumb YouTube videos.

And Bill had a few rules when this started coming in. Like I remember he was my face and Facebook and like. Yeah, what was he called? He intentionally screw up the name Snapface. Yeah. Snap face. Yeah. Like he would, he would say this.

Forget it, Coach. You hate it. Yeah. It's fucking snapfate. Like, I don't know what this does. Like, he says, like, he doesn't know what he does, but he clearly doesn't. You know what it does, coach. So, you know, he had a specific rule set on what you could do.

You remember that. You can't have anything in the, in the facility. And take pictures in the facility. Guys screwed that up all the time. I was always like, you know, you just got here one of the first rules. I'd watch guys come in, like, just in my one year. I was like, they did the fucking. The rule, the first rule was no pictures in this mother.

There's no windows on this building. Why would you think any, they want anything to get out? Yeah. There's no windows. You couldn't have any. He said in the parking lot. So like on the facility, I think. A dude did a selfie.

A rookie did a selfie of like, you know, like, you know, I'm at home at Patriot Place or something like that. You know, a nice little benign post. That shit was taken down so fast. Well, I remember I would walk by, I would be in my locker. just, you know, in between meetings and you see a picture for someone in the locker room and you go look like,

is this guy going to... What does he think? You remember what I'm talking about? I know exactly what you mean. And then all of a sudden, you'd see little bears walk in. Oh, bears. Yeah.

Just walk in. Hey, Bill wants to see you. Never good news. Never good news. He has the internet too, man. I love bears. So what are you going to do with all that? Because you've built a really nice brand for yourself.

And I hate even saying the word brand because I'm not saying that brand to me sounds like maybe a little fake. Like this is who you are. Like you're creative. You have fun. You're funny. You can also be hard working and badass on the field. And I think you're going to parlay it into something great.

What's next? Well, I'm doing inside the NFL a bunch of the time, which I'm excited for that. That'll be fun to be on that historic show on a platform that I've been watching my whole life. And then I also partnered up with Viacom, CBS, and Paramount for a studio deal for my production company. So we got something in developments right now, which I'm really excited about. You know, just kind of creating content. It all went from like creating these little YouTube videos and then going into the Instagram and this stuff. And now this is a new platform and a longer

platform for us to create our content. And it's fun. You know, when you start doing those types of things and you go from the very beginning and you shoot all this content and then you get in the, you know, the editing room and you bring it. down and you break it down and at first you think this thing's going to be terrible. I don't know why we did this, that, and then you, you know, you shape it, you mold it, and then you see that finished product in it and how you guys changed it. I mean, it gives me a high. So, you know, it's fun and it's something that I've always liked doing and we're going to see

where this takes me. It also goes to show you that a lot of content you see is not how it came out of the pipe. Like, we'll do some stuff here and I'm like, oh yeah, I'm looking at other podcasts like you're not as great as I thought because like I know we're having trouble to get this all spliced together I was gonna say would it be possible to cast me and ninko in one of your movies you get like just killed or something I mean I'm more of a Kyle Long kind of guy Kyle Long would be great in one of your movies like to you know that's my boy bro I know dude you guys from way back right what was the story about saddleback when he was a

community college or juco out in southern california and missin vio both went to api and you get this big ass ogre who's like six foot five three hundred fifteen pounds like oh so your offense lineman he goes no i'm pitcher he's over here wrong i'm like what's your name he goes oh kall long i'm like you're long son he goes yeah i'm like chris long's your brother he's like yeah and i'm like oh my god and he had insane feet i remember his footwork was so good When we do the ladder drill, you'd see this big ass 6.6, 315 pound dude, just doing this ladder drill. That would look good. Catching balls.

I was throwing and stuff. But we used to, I mean, I loved him. We had an instant vibe. And we connected and we were both young. And then he transitioned into football. I remember him with his career. And the best thing that happened to him because he went out west, he refocused. He ended up at that jucoe down there.

It was beautiful at Saddleback. Played football. Got the bug. All of a sudden he got drafted by the White Sox. He was supposed to be a baseball player. Really talented guy. Really talented guy. The year I was there in New England, that was the year.

And sometimes it's funny, I have to remind people. I'm like, yeah, it was the Atlanta year. Don't worry about it. You don't remember me? But the Atlanta year, what was so special about that year for you, besides just the comeback and how it ended? 16. I mean, that was the year that Tom was suspended.

And, you know, we had to start off, you know, those four games without them. We went three in one and then like kind of, you know, we had to grease the machine and then he came in and we started getting it going. And I don't know. That was a crazy year, man. Like it just like I don't think we were supposed to do that. Were we? I don't think so either, honestly, especially like when you get there and from my perspective as a free agent, you're like you're hedging, like you're pushing all your poker chips to the table to like try to win just one year. And you get there and Tom Brady gets suspended.

And you're like, what the fuck is going on here? Yeah, that's almost like now in hindsight, like we need some adversity. Like after every kind of like gate or something, we had to go in the Super Bowl. So like we need something. So. Yeah, and the playoffs, the playoffs were pretty easy until. I mean, nothing's easy. But, but I had like for me, I was like, oh my God, first game in the playoffs.

Oh, they're just beating the shit out of these guys. And then it was like, oh, Pittsburgh, no big deal. We actually got a break, a bye week, which isn't the coolest thing in the world to, practice for a week in January in New England. Oh, you mean the blue and white game in snow? Well, we've had like bi weeks. We had by weeks for a long time when I was there for that first week. And like we would have these scrimmages.

And I remember one year we had a, I don't know if it was that year or 14. It must have been 14. There was a snowstorm and it was frozen over at the practice fields. And so it was because it was cold. We had to go in the stadium. And half of the stadium was frozen. And it was before they had the heated pipes under. And we're having a full-on blue and white scrimmage a week before the playoffs start.

I'm talking like guys are like Braveheart out there. Like you know what I mean? Like we're splitting up teams, this, that. I'm like, what are we doing? Yeah, when my first biweek in my life, you know, nine years in my career, I was like, could we have just like maybe squeaked in, you know? I'm taking on double teams out here on Wednesday. I don't have any tort all in me.

No, that's all they do, man. You need that vitamin T. But the Super Bowl, though, I've always won to this. I never asked somebody this, actually, and this is perfect. What took y'all so long? What took us so long? I don't want to say y'all, the offense, I'm saying, y'all were sputtering, we were getting gashed.

I know what was happening on our side of the ball. What was happening on y'all's side of the ball? Well, I remember going to that game, what Bill say, at least to the offense. He said, we needed to score touchdowns when we get in the red area and we need to convert third downs and we cannot turn the ball over that first drive remember le garrett we were going into the red area and we fumbled so like we were actually kind of driving yeah you know we're on that fringe like that 40 to 35 range i don't remember like specifically

but then we ended up fumbling then next time you know we're sitting there now we're kind of clinched a little bit here a little little little but hole punkered yeah you know so then i think we went the three and out. We didn't, we had a manageable third down. We didn't do that. And then the next one we do a pick six or something. So like, and we were in the red era. We were driving the ball. We just didn't, we weren't executing, bro. Like that's, that's what it is. It's simple. You know, it's, it's lack of execution. And then, you know, we went in the half time. And all of a sudden, you know, we were all pretty composed for the most part of it. Here's the funny part. And I always bring you up, uh, is I'm like, Jules was.

like gung-ho, we're going to win this game. And I'm from a losing culture. And I'm like, 20, whatever we were down, I was like, you're going to win this game? What? Can we just get a fucking stop?

Duran? Like, Duran's like, just going to be the greatest comeback of all time. And it wasn't until recently I saw you on an interview. It might have been part of my take or something. And you were like, I didn't know what the fuck to think. And I was like, oh, he really didn't believe it either. He was just like me.

Ah, no, no. No. No, no, I mean, I'm the thing it's been. I wish you could see him. I've been in games. I've been in games. We've been behind a lot and we came back, bro. I don't care if it was a football.

The Super Bowl is always closed, man. Well, I wouldn't know. Little old me, I wouldn't know. Little of me gets the Super Bowl. I'm like, this is what it feels more like I got assaulted, dude. Bro, those guys, those guys have never been in a Super Bowl. Like, I was a little nervous. They blew their load.

I was a little nervous. But, like, yo, like, we, if we would have, like, did well on those, we would have been fine. Because the defense really only gave up, what, seven points. We gave up the other two, really, in the grand scheme of things. So. You should have seen me and Nico coming out because you know we're both kind of negative. Oh, kind of. Oh, yeah, it's like stepbrothers is what you used to call us.

But, yeah. We were sitting on the bench, like, just looking at each other, just staring at each other. But Niko kept telling me before the game, I would have these long conversations. I was anxious about like, not the game. Like, I don't give a fuck about football. I'm going to go out there and play.

But just the ramifications of the game in my life. And Niko was like, let me tell you something, man. It's the best feeling in the world to win a Super Bowl. It's as good as like X, Y, Z. But there is no worse feeling in the world than losing a Super Bowl. You would rather go O in 16. And I can remember when he said, that I just like froze, dude, and I couldn't stop thinking about it.

And all he had to do was look at me at halftime, and the look said it all. Remember what I said, motherfucker? I was just, oh, it was so bad. And we didn't know really, I don't feel like the tide turned until almost the fourth quarter when high forced the fumble. We were still out of it. Yeah, I would say that. I mean, that's when I felt the shift in momentum. We score and then high stripped one.

and then we were still down what 16.7? It was a lot still you look back and you're like damn it still wasn't but you could see when they panned the sideline on like NFL films and looked it like you or tom your halftime let's go guys turned into a we're fucking in this like you know the it was like you guys lit up on the sideline and we're like okay we're definitely in range now it was that play that I made without a doubt I mean when the stars started aligning that's and then

what the tray had the sack after that. And then the or then the holding call you know and all these things started happening. Once we tied it up, I knew we were winning. If we got the ball in overtime, it was over because like we were on that,

that wavelength that by that time where we had just climbed Mount Everest to get back into this game. And by no means are we letting this thing get out of our hands now because of what we did. And all the Super Bowls I've played, there's never like a comfortability or there's never like a flow to the game. It's because of the long timeouts, the 15 extra minute half time, two additional timeouts each half, or TV commercials.

There's no real flow to the game. So like the team that can find their flow usually is the team that goes out and has the most success. And we didn't have really necessarily any flow in that first half. But in the second half, you know, guys were just starting to try to win each play, at least on offense. That's what I could say. We were trying to win one play at a time. Like we knew a 60-yard touchdown is not going to bring us in this game.

We were still down three scores. Right. You know what I mean? So once we got everyone in their mindset in that kind of mode, that's when we were like starting to, you know, dink and dunk and all right, let's pick this up. all right now we got you know and that's when they started going but you guys always had a scrappy offense even before like you know i got to see that high powered offense really though but still

there's always an element of we're scratching we're clawing we have to sustain drives and that's why like i think bill's so hardcore on like i'm going to smack the shit out of that ball out of your hand to practice i'm going to squirt water on the ball all that crazy shit he does the silicone balls what about the silicone balls well he has these balls that he greases silicone. Is this the hot tub story? No, no. There's like this, he puts this grease on these balls.

We have to do, like, it's literally, you can't use gloves. Like, you can't pick up the ball. It's so slick. Yeah. Like he's sitting there, you got coaches with freaking boxing gloves, trying to take them out and stuff. But trust is really big. And I feel like he has to trust people to put the,

trust is so hard to earn there and so easy to lose. And that's okay. What about your quarterback, Tom, who's like one of your best friends, but there's a business side to that relationship. And was there ever a time where momentarily the trust like dipped below where the friendship was on the field and you had to earn it back? I would say early when I started playing a lot like in 13 or like 12. Yeah. 2012 in those years like when I was trying to crack the lineup. Yeah.

That was like a huge thing where like if I, if I. I didn't do something right, he wouldn't going to look at me for two weeks. You know what I mean? Like, then it was just going straight, you know, Welker all day or or or anything. Like I, every play that I had that was designed to go to me, I had to execute to an exact T. Or like you said, the trust is gone and that and that and that's how he is. And, uh, you know, at least when he was in New England, it was very hard to earn that. And he, you had, he had to see it consistently through practice for him to actually feel that and be comfortable with giving you a little hint of trust, not even like the full trust.

But then as it went on to our career later in my career, it was more of, you know, we had such a routine on and off the field in the off season and learning each other where I think that trust was, you know, it was building even bigger and bigger through practices and compounding just through the years. So, like, that's, that was our relationship. What were his biggest pet peeves if you could share any? His biggest pet peeve is if you didn't, like, if you didn't come flat to downhill, like, on outbreaking routes.

Yeah, or in cuts. Like, if you didn't go flat to downhill, if guys rounded it and got undercut, like, and that was something that I was, that was always my, as a quarterback, I remember that, you know, throwing the guys that if a guy didn't come flat to downhill, he's not protecting to throw. So I would come down on even an out route. I'd come down even like 45 degrees and almost look like a comeback, but that's what he wanted because it made him feel safe to throw the ball. You know what I mean? It was those types of things that he would get really mad about or stacking a guy on an outbreaking or a seam or like a scene or a nine route. You know, that that stacking

giving him room, not getting pushed out of the side. You know, he hated that. He would always get so mad and he'd always want you to get into your route like get into your route like don't don't kill the ants at the line of scrimmage let's get into our route i mean the release game yeah yeah yeah well let's get into the route and and look when you're open that was always a huge thing you know there's a whole there's a whole lot of things was it like watching like i'm sure as you're watching him in tampa you don't have time to watch his games like that but you probably catch a few i watched every single okay there we go all right it's like watching the next girlfriend and you're like a little stalker-ish or you're watching you're watching like you don't just like scroll the

timeline every now and again you're like 50 weeks deep i was hurt last year so i was watching all the games i mean so you're watching and like he's on primetime games this guy was up prime time every week i know he was he was stacking him up how about the chicago game what do you think of watching that chicago game when he's laying on the ground and calil max just breathing on him i was thinking like that's gonna piss him off. You know what I mean? He had one of the worst. It was one of the worst drives that I've ever seen

like period and it wasn't his fault. There were like five penalties. Jensen had a penalty. There was another hold. Then he got sacked and then they did something else. And then he forgot what Donner was. And I was just like his head is ready to explode. I've never seen him matter.

Yeah. I mean, you could definitely tell. What's it feel like to get yelled at by Tom? He's never yelled at me. I mean, I feel like he knows that like Chris is a defensive player and quite personally it's not that important like i got to yell at jules yeah what's that feel like he used to get on me like like an older brother but i like i was a kind of guy that he could get on

you know because it was tough for him when i was young he used to get on me real hard because we had a connection with the bay area we have the same representation when agents with being do in sports you know so like we had like kind of a little thing but like i wasn't like a stud yet so like if I didn't do something exactly right, like he would like fully like, come on, Juleskazka! Like hit the high octave.

But, you know, as I got older, he would yell at me and I would kind of like yell back if it was like not like prohibited. Like if, if this wasn't meant to be yelled at, I'm like,

bro, you can't yell at me for this. Like, but he used to like to yell at me because I think he couldn't yell at other guys because they would tank if they did. Right. You know what I mean?

He's so, he's like, these guys have been watching them since they were like two years old. I was watching them since I was like 13. You know what I mean? Like they would fully like tank and quit or get their feelings hurt if a guy like Tom Brady gets on you and just starts yelling at you. So like he's very good with who he could yell at who he couldn't yell at.

Have you ever gotten a sorry about earlier, Bubbs? No, but he used to give me the, you know, He'd get on me hard when I was young. I remember he goes, you know, if I yell at you, you know, I love you. And I'd be like, then I'd be like, you must really love me then. It's so true, though.

Because I used to sit next to him before they broke, they separated us after like a few years because, you know, like they can't have too good of friends. Yeah, they're dicking off in the front. Oh, dude. It's like the classroom in eighth grade. It's the next to your boy. It would put us in watch the heads. But I'd sit there and I'd be all like beat down like little puppy, like terrified.

Like I'm going to get cut and stuff like my first or second year. Even sit next to me goes, you know, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, if I, out you, buddy, that means I love you. That's what I tell my son, too. Yeah. What about when you're watching him this last year, the happiness that he exuded? I have not bit the cheese on this. Like there's some big drama thing.

Like it's a 20 year relationship, okay? And sometimes you want to do something different. That doesn't mean you hate the last place and it can be exhilarating. Novelty's cool. He's down in Tampa. He's showing a little more personalities, which is like, yeah, Bill's got rules. You don't want to disrespect his rules. What was that like seeing that side of him?

Were you excited about it? Were you like kind of following along and like pointing at the TV? Like that's like the Leo Giff, you know? Like, that's the Tom I know. You know the Leo, yeah. I was happy for him, but I've seen that side of him. Right. But I mean, like, a lot of, he's been, you know, he was probably a little more reserved when he was here.

He was also older and it was, you know, probably a little repetitive for him to go out, all right, when the Super Bowl, go to a parade, same place, same energy, same. So, so dull. You know what I mean? If you think about it, and then he goes to Miami or goes into Florida, I mean, it's different. So it's probably- Oh, this parade's on a boat. Yeah.

I can throw the trophy over the canal. Yeah. I mean, he can do those fun types of things here. Just it wasn't as- It wasn't as broadcasted, right? Yeah. I guess then the question is because I never hung up. You hang around Tom when he's at his best.

And by best, I mean, like he's tanked. He's having fun, like, which is rare. So I hear. Most people have only seen him getting escorted off the boat. What's the loose Tom like? I mean, he's just like one of the other guys, man. He's competitive, wants to compete at everything. I mean, he's just, he's a fun guy to be around.

He could chug a beer. The guy can chug a beer fast, pretty fast. I'm telling you. I've heard this, actually. Very fast. We had a, we had a, because I could chug a beer pretty decent too. And we had a showdown over in Rochester, New York when we got, we got snowed in one time after clinching 2009

AFC East Championship We got Snowdened and we couldn't Stay in Buffalo so they bust us to Rochester We went to Rochester We went to the dinosaur Barbecue like with the whole team They started drinking beers And stuff and like we chugged

And he got me fair and square So That's the fun part though You know the NFL's way different than college Like we're going back to where we live We all live together like Yeah The NFL's like you know

you got this dude over here, this guy here. You know, like, I might not even know much about this guy on the other side of the locker room. But when you're all stuck somewhere or you're all like snowed in or something, like, that's when you can all hang out. And some of the shittiest times yield the best like hangouts. You know what? That's in 14 when we went on our run, we lost to the Packers.

And then we flew directly to San Diego. We had to go. We had to San Diego the next week. And we stayed out there for a week. it's kind of like that bro time that like you said, you don't get that as much because you got married men, you got your single man, you got your religious guys,

you got your guys that are trying to make team, and there's different clicks, and they're never really together. You get the most togetherness is when, like the night before the game, when everyone's eating wings or everyone's eating, you know, burgers or whatever.

You know, everyone's eating. We're all sitting watching college football before meeting, so you get like an extended version of that. And that's where we molded our team that year, I remember, specifically in those, like, practice trips where you go to another team and, and have those joint practices. Those were always fun to me because that's when you got to hang out with the guys the most, you know, hang out with guys that you don't necessarily hang out with because they're married

or they have family or the, you know, the kid guys. And, you know, so, like, it's... The kid guys. The kid guys. How about you since you became a kid guy? I was going to ask you earlier. I'm glad you brought this up. Was there a moment you knew you didn't want it anymore

or you couldn't do it anymore physically? And I only asked on the heels of the kid conversation because for me, the minute kids came into the program, my patience for anything outside of them dropped. Yeah, you know, I would say it definitely was a huge part of it just because you want to be able to think and be able to remember and be able to like run and change. are nice. Yeah. Chase your child. You know, I know what I signed up for. You know what I mean? Like,

we know what we signed up for. But I've enjoyed so much of this life that what we're doing right now. I don't really care. I think we're good. I think that, you know what I mean? No, but that was a huge part of it, you know, being able to go out and be an active father. Like I had an active father. And, you know, like you said, when you have a child, your priorities shift. Like every, now every decision that I used to make was, like, I had tattoo of New England Patriots on my forehead for like the last eight years. And then when I had my kid, it was like, all right, now every decision I make is like, is this going to be kosher with this? You know, are we good here? Or is my kid going to be straight?

You know what I mean? Everything's about her now. Like your priority shift. So, you know, it definitely weighed into that for sure to be able to go out and enjoy life because we still have like another 40, 50 years. here, I think. Maybe more, man. Technology the way it's going. I know. The little thing they're putting in the back of the neck with Elon Musk and stuff. Yeah, I don't even try to keep up with all that shit. I'm anti-robot, dude. AI is coming. Yeah, it's going to be coming all over our society, ruining it. You're going to have T-2000 situations left and right. Let me ask you this, because you've always been

very high-strung, like you got a lot of energy. I just, the sitting still part of it. You said inside the NFL, I think you're going to do great on that. It's going to be awesome. Well, one thing is, I wonder, are you going to be able to talk about the Patriots freely? That's one interesting one. From talking to Nanko about being on TV, it's hard sometimes to balance that. And he tries to do it just head on, but it's tough. Yeah, I mean, I'm going to give my takes, man. I've earned my stripes. I'm good. Bill's going to take away your little comeback to practice paths if you give the wrong take. Yo, bro, hey, I've sacrificed my life for that guy. I'm going to call it in how it is.

I got confidence in coach and I'll always be fair. So could you ever coach was the question I was going to ask? Hell no. Yeah. Absolutely. I put 14 hours a day in as a player. Yeah. And you see coaches that put it in probably another five hours.

Yeah. When you go and you're leaving the facility and you're seeing the coach in the parking lot with his family in his car who had to come see him. at his little like dinner break before they go have like nine o'clock that shit is really i'm seeing guys playing catch with their kids in the parking lot drive through visits drive through visits i mean that i can't do that i mean and that tells you and that's why you tip your hat to guys you know at our you know in new england that have put in so much time those coaches they do a lot of that and i know it's not like that everywhere but the fact that i have that in my head that some group is doing that, then I wouldn't be able to sleep if I was on another coaching staff

and having to like, like, all right, we're not really doing that much like here, like, because I've heard how it is in certain places where it's different here and there. That and then also another factor is, I mean, it's, it's the young guys are crazy. These young dudes, like coaching these guys, it's nuts. Yeah. Like I've been, I've been in the room as, as an older guy watching, you know, it's a different generation. What do you think they don't get? I saw you on, uh, Jesus and Mero talking to them about this. Like the whole, yeah, see, I catch some of your shit. You know, I follow you a little bit, Jules.

I listen to the Blue Light podcast, dude. Blue Light, fuck you. Hey, young people. What's up with the young kids that you notice a big, because I think skill guys are the most different. I think D. Lyman are kind of frozen in time. Like, we just are what we are. Like, we're fucking nuts.

You know? But the skill guys are different now. So what is it? Well, I think it's just, I think it's because there's so many, these kids have been on platforms since they're like born now. Yeah.

And then you got a kid who did an insane backflip catch in high school and got, went viral with it. And he comes in, then he goes to college and he gets a little more cloud. And then he comes into the league and he thinks he's like, you know, I mean, there's a lot of that going on. And it's like that with every old generation, talking about every new generation, I'm sure.

But like, it's just a. a different shape of guy. It's a different type of guy. I mean, I don't know. It's hard for me to explain. It's hard for me to explain without shitting on this generation. Yeah, I'm not even trying to because there are some real guys that come out and you're like, man, this guy's a throwback. But it's all kind of what you grew up with. I'm sure there were guys that, you know, pre-CBA guys before that lockout in 2011, things were different. There were more vets. There were more like OGs. There was a different vibe in locker rooms. You said, have people staring at their phones like it just was a it's a different world and same thing in locker

rooms yeah you know it's just you know the learning style and like the type of like the game that's changing because i mean whatever they do in college it always evolves to come into the NFL and we're seeing that literally you know with with the type of quarterbacks that are you know how the evolution of the quarterback's going right now and and the spreading out of everyone i mean so it's just the way these guys are learning every everything's one word this now it's all high speed now that like one yeah i mean i'm not used to that and like now it's you talk about like evolution of position one guy that you played with in the last year like was revolutionary in a lot of ways like so unique there's never been a guy like him before

and i don't know if you can duplicate him so i don't know if he's actually changing a position it's cam newton i mean just to have a guy who can do the things when he's not throwing the ball well later in his career a year like last year he's had some struggles maybe physically that sort of thing he still helped draw in so many ways and he was still like a heartbeat of your team in so many ways you can see the guy's gravitating towards him i learned a lot about him watching him play in new england did you learn anything new about cam newton what did you learn about the guy that you watch for all those years i definitely learned a lot playing with cam i mean everyone's got a you know premeditated like look on certain things and certain, you know, looking outside in on a lot of, a lot of people,

a lot of things, a lot of everything, you know, and then getting to know Cam and seeing how Cam worked and getting the vibe with Cam, you know, Cam is Cam, bro. That's just him. Like people like front on them like, yo, you need to stop this. You need to stop that. Like that is literally just, Cam's just a fun dude that works his ass off, that likes to play football, had a lot of success. And he's just grinding away. He's swagged out. That's what Cam does. You know what I mean? And I learned that firsthand.

Like, I'm like a hard dick, you know, in the locker room. And to have a hard ass, a hard ass. Damn, dude, that was hard. That was, that was it hard. I'm just joking. I have multiple, like, different types, you know, like, yo, I'm a serious guy. I like to joke around here or not.

But, like, having Cam and having, seeing a different way to do and approach. the game was very cool and interesting and I enjoyed it, you know? And guys were receptive to it because you could see like dudes that you know their favorite dude they ever played with was Tom.

It's not about comparing two guys. And honestly, like there were rough spots but you still like everybody loved him. It just looked like that. And I just really respected the way he stood tall after losses. Like that was the thing for me that I was like I know how hard it was up there, dude.

You know what I mean? A formidable guy. Like, Cam is an accountable guy, you know, and he works his tail off. He gets in there super early, he leaves super late. I mean, he lives, breathes, and dies ball, man. And that's what you want to see from that position. And regardless of, you know, the outcomes of games, you knew you were going to get, you know, the best out of him.

And you were going to, you know, he was working hard to get to where he wanted to go. I'll tell you right now, the guy's charming. he's a very charming guy you know when your hand his interpersonal like communication skills are like awesome as a leader you know he knows how to charm you and certain you know what I mean like yeah make guys feel better probably on days

they're feeling shitty and yeah guys feel better and he's he talks he talks with everyone you know what I mean he's just a he's a cool dude that you know I thought he was hard for that that was a tough situation to jump into uh with the amount of time that he had to do it.

So I think that was kind of, it's unfair to really go in and evaluate Cam Newton as a player with the amount of variables that everyone had last year. Yeah. Not with just, you know, being signed like a week before camp, which, you know, this is calculus, this offense. This isn't like, all right, we're just going to do this and this. You know what I mean? So that was an uphill battle for anyone.

and then also the fact of all the regulations with the COVID, this, that, like there was no like real routine that anyone really could get into. The Kansas City game. We flew on the same day of the game, bro. How tight were you? I couldn't walk. Bro, like I don't think people realize you can't sit in high school. These are 30-something-year-old men.

Their bodies don't feel the same as you. You can't just hop on a bus and just show up and play. I mean, you can't. A bus maybe. A bus maybe, but not on a bus to a plane. then a bus to Arrowhead, which is like another hour and a half. They fucked that whole airport situation up. That was, that was crazy.

That's when I started thinking like, yo, I don't know if I could. That might have been the moment, huh? There we go. That was the moment. Julian Edelman knew he was done in Kansas City because it's just so crazy last year. I mean, what are we doing? Like, I'm 34 years old. I don't have any cartilage in my knee.

And you guys get off this plane, strap them up and go play against. Oh, my God. James. Moses was like, hey, just get some squats in, Jules. So we didn't know when we were leaving and we couldn't go to the facility for a certain amount of days. And I had to like keep my knee moving. So I had to go out to freaking the espionade over in Boston. There's like these two fields. And I had to like jog on Saturday because we didn't have or Sunday because they postponed the game. I'm over here in my cleats jogging in public over at Boston Common. like having to get a douchebag like people are like Julian Edelman like they definitely have a facility

he's just out here to feel like he's a thirst trap there was no one even out because did you have your shirt off did you take your shirt off no it was freezing well that never stopped you before I would too if I was jacked yeah you have my mask still I don't have your mask I lost the Julian Edelman mask sadly somewhere in that crowd at that parade which we're was just one of my favorite days of my life. That parade was fun parade. The mask. Whoever's out there has got the mask will put a sizable reward on that thing.

So I would love to see that. Julian Edelman, amazing career, man. I think people should give you your flowers, and I didn't get a chance to speak to you after your living funeral. One of the most competitive people that I've ever gotten a chance to play with. I appreciate you, man. Great teammate, great friend. Good luck in the next chapter.

Come back soon, okay? All right, bro. I appreciate having me and those feelings are very mutual. And on a side note, can you text me Kyle's number? You got it because you put him in the movie. Yeah, I'm going to put him in the movie. I'm going to put him in the movie.