Green Light with Chris Long - Kansas Jayhawks Win National Championship! Toyota Owners 400 NASCAR Event Review! Bruce Arians, Bobby Wagner & Tua Tagovailoa!

Episode Date: April 5, 2022

(2:27) - Kansas Jayhawks Defeat North Carolina Tar Heels to Win the 2022 NCAA Men's Basketball Tournament. (9:03) - Chris and Macon Recap Chris' Trip to New York for ESPN's Get Up, Talk Theories from Bruce Arians Retirement Announcement, Discuss the Impact of Bobby Wagner Signing with the LA Rams and Revisit Chris' Take on the Tua-Tyreek Combo. (55:47) - Chris' NFL Draft Memories from the 2008 NFL Draft, Presented By Coors Light. (1:08:07) - Green Light Crew Attends NASCAR's Toyota Owners 400 in Richmond to Watch Chris Drive the Official Pace Car. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So to be a quick five minutes, just know that Chris and Macon and Nate do the rest of the show from the studio with their normal microphones. Just trust me. After the championship review, Chris and Macon, talking about Chris's trip to New York. for ESPN's get up. Then we'll jump into our first Coors Light draft segment. We'll have a number of these leading up to the 2022 NFL draft in this first installment. Chris talks about draft preparation. And then what you all came here today for Chris and Dr. Fax recap their NASCAR experience.

Hey, y'all enjoy. And Kansas just vanquished the Tar Hills. They made everything okay. Bradley Manick's watch has ended, although he acted like he didn't know that his job was done. I'm in the office, so to speak. Macon's in his living room. Let's talk about this game, and then we'll get into the pod that we recorded earlier today.

Awesome game. It looked like that last play was being run for Bradley Manick, who slipped and turned an ankle like Baycott. Puff Johnson's out there puking. I think Carolina really did run out of gas, especially after that. A little Duke come down, despite being up 15 at the half.

But that was awesome. That was best of all worlds for us. Maximum pain for Duke. Maximum pain for Carolina. I'm relieved. Rock chalk. Wave the wheat. Great game.

Yeah. It was. The comeback was awesome. I'm not going to lie. When it went up 40 to 25, I said, fuck this shit. And I stopped watching.

And then I saw that it was 46, 45. and I tuned back came and Remy Martin was balling and Baycott was was was lit he was like buddy Lee out there it was like he just kept rolling the same angle it's like a scene in a movie where a guy just keeps getting hurt um they did run out of gas and they even had an extra opportunity when uh buddy from kansas dan orlovskyed on the sideline yeah that hurt for uh for us minus four folks but i told you my line spoiling. Bro, I went money line. I went minus four.

I went money line down 16 points. I went money line down 38 to 22. So your boy is doing all right. I also went under. I'm also speaking to you with a sleeping, with the sleeping pill inside my person and a heating pad under my back. Cowboy Reed, grace my home this evening, saw Zoe Rabbit.

That's how I'm speaking to you via this. microphone. Everything came together when Cowboy Reed came inside the house. And, um, you know, that's true a studio. Jay, that's true. Your crib. It's just, it's a great night. What you missed for a portion of the game there was O'Chai Jabi, who is now, I believe, the most outstanding player of the Final Four. He went one of three from the line. They were down seven. He went over two from the line. They were down five. But they just kept coming. They got out and they ran and they defended, which they did not do in the first half. The first half, it was dumped down to David McCormick, which wasn't working against

Baycott, Yeoman's effort from Baycott, but it wasn't working. McCormick got it going in the second half, but it all started. I remember distinctly saying that McCormick guy is really good for them. I think it was after the Creighton game. And Mark Titus was like, no, he's not really who they go through. He just had a good game. He played well the rest of the tournament. He's an old school big.

He's he's huge. He's a glass heater. Got to go back to the basket game. Nice little baby hook. He's a he's a great player. Remy Martin, Arizona State, Kansas,

high ceiling, low floor, erratic and was just making everything tonight and was, was defending two off the bench. It was sweet. I go back to a Chris Felica, the bear. He tweeted before the tournament started that that region was kind of a mess.

If it's not going to be Kansas, who's it going to be? Because you had Auburn and its guards who didn't know their roles. They couldn't win away from home. You had Providence and Iowa, really low floors. You had Wisconsin there who relied on Johnny Davis and was gas. Ellis, you didn't have a coach. But that was the answer. It was there in plain sight all the time. It was going to be Kansas out of that region. And then they had the jimmies and the Joe's to get it done in the final four and they took long enough to get it going. Bill's up looking a little puffy.

He's looking a little puffy tomorrow. He's going to be on Bourbon Street till 8 a.m. A little puffy. I don't know if the, I don't think the quarter zips are working, frankly. Hubert is trying to half turn down his collar on that quarter sip. I don't think those work,

but that's neither here nor there. Rock chalk, rock chalk to the Kansas City Jayhawk. as Mark Emmert would say. All right. Well, then who's going to win the 90 next year? Oh, boy. Arkansas. Whoopi.

Okay. I'm going to flush the toilet now on the North Carolina Tar Hills. This is kind of like in Hunger Games when they play the whistle and all the people are gone. All the ACC teams are gone. Bradley Manick, your wife. Watch has ended. Wah-hoo-wa.

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By six points. That team that I was like, I bled Carolina Blue the other night. Now I have no need for them anymore, so I've got Kansas by about 10 points, yeah. Good, yeah, and that's the lead. Coach Kay is gone. He is no more. We will never see him again or hear from him again. I don't think so. I think we'll hear from him. Well, there's definitely cleaner, crisper. Water tastes better, very hydrated. This is going the way it should. Sunshine a little brighter. Yeah, but for some of us in this neck of the woods, a Carolina national title ain't much better. It's not good because as I mentioned last week,

Hubert Davis now, he's like the golden child that comes in and delivers a national title in the first year and probably affects the power balance in the ACC. I say that because they were an eight seed this year. Like they're going to be better than that in the near future. Yeah, I mean this disrespectfully. I'm glad that Hubert's the coach. Yeah.

Like I thought he was keeping the seat warm for Wes Miller. And that now is a joke because he's taking his team to the national title game and appears nobody's doing. I don't, I think this is an anomaly. I really do. This is Roy Williams' retirement tour. Now, I don't want to take anything away from Hubert. It's a great job.

Terrific job. And this team got it going at the right time of year. And they have nice pieces and they're always going to recruit well. But I don't think he's building a dynasty here. And let's hope we've just discussed his team losing its last game, as Duke did. Yeah, respectfully, UNC fans. We appreciate your effort. We appreciate your service this weekend.

for sure we'll give you a voucher somewhere like maybe a free 32 ounce coke and and they don't they don't even need that from us because they have everything they will ever need from here on out they they ruined coach k's final game at home they beat them in the final four van caro said i want unc again right not going to happen beautiful poetic i mean they lose on free throws those are like the biggest fundamental things that's what coach k would tell you in the universe not for that damned mark williams to knock down he'd be a national title six times over national title winner. And they didn't get the N1 down the stretch, which in the NBA would have been an N1.

So people suspended reality for a moment. And we're like, well, if this was the NBA, well, it's not. I didn't have any timeouts because I used them all to yell at the referees. Let's move on, dude. You didn't give me the calls like they normally do. Let's move on, dude. If the referees had had a better game, we wouldn't be in this situation.

It would have had a couple of timeouts to tell Mark Williams, hey, Mark, don't miss these free throws, you pussy. That's how he talks to his players. Right, right. It's not about me. It's about my players who missed the free throws

and cost me the game on my farewell tour. And on the other side of things, as obvious champions tonight. That's the one way I'm going to make this really interesting. I just feel like this is a big letdown, although it's going to be a great basketball game in a vacuum. We know what just happened Saturday night, and we know how long we waited for that rematch,

and it felt like at a certain point in the tournament, when certain teams lost, it was like a formality that these two teams would have to face each other, and we would enjoy it mightily, especially if the outcome was what we saw Saturday night. This game feels like even with an eight seed in that thing, and you didn't think so, but it's the perfect kind of eight seed to get into it because it's an eight seed that actually is going to make a competitive ballgame. We hope there's some really exciting players on both sides of the court. There's two blue bloods. I just don't care as much. So I'm going to be hammering Kansas seven ways. Money line? I'll wait till game time when they incentivize me to bet the Jayhawks money line and I will hammer it. But yeah, I don't know. I was. I was thinking about other championship games that were so great.

I mean, I feel like the Seattle, San Francisco game pops into my head because wasn't that the NFC championship that preceded the Denver Broncos ass kicking? I mean, everybody's looking around in this room. Reid knows the answer. That was the same year, Reed, when you guys got beat by the Seahawks, that was a week or two after Riches Sherman and Aaron Andrews met. That's right. That was one of the best games ever.

Best games ever. I think the AFC game was no slouch either. but nothing that, you know, from a quality of game standpoint, all that stuff last year we had the Jalen Suggs Half Court buzzer beater, which is something that you almost forget because it was the weird kind of like pandemic time. There were no fans in the stands. And then the absolutely forgettable national championship.

Blow out. Blow out. Blow out. There been some others. Kentucky Louisville met in 2012. Dallas followed up with a Kentucky, Kansas. Kansas on the other end of these monster Final Four matchups, VCU Butler in 2011

Low-key lit 8 and 11 going up against each other Don't know who was in the final there 2001 2011 was when Butler was when Butler lost to Kemble Walker Yeah that was the ugliest That was one of the ugliest

National Championships of all time And I put that up there with the Georgia Tech Yukon National Championship in 2004 So like Yukon gets in a natty It's just not going to be fun Same thing with Butler Also that was a horrific uniform mashup

the darkest blue and white. Right. This is gonna be gorgeous. This was gorgeous tonight. This is gorgeous. This is gonna be gorgeous. This is gonna be, as you said, absolutely. This is a Bevel Conway.

No doubt about it. So. Now, I just, I hope you've done well. I hope you've won. Yeah, I hope we won. But Carolina is just dangerous. Caleb Love is love. Yep.

Stones for days. Yep. Doesn't give a hoot where he is on the floor. He'll let it fly. They kind of treat like three points. like US currency. Yeah. It's just like, I mean, we don't value them.

There's like an inflation of three pointers on that team. I mean, like at least watching the Duke game. Is that how they played all year? They just run and gun, throw it up there. Four around one, yeah. I mean, this is gonna be, this is gonna be a fun game, objectively. I'm talking myself into it. Baycotts dinged up.

Baycotts dinged up, which isn't great. Beacots. Kudos to him, I thought he was dead, and then he came back. But I, Trinity Episcopal, by the way. Dude, he's from Richmond. Mark Williams from the 7-5. Yeah, dude.

David McCormick from the 7-5. There's a lot of Virginia kids starring in other uniforms. Yeah. Bring some of them home. Yeah. Football, too, I'd help. Same.

Yeah, with you. Okay, so big week, jam-pack week. It ended with NASCAR yesterday, our yesterday, making, sat that one out. Thanks for returning to Studio, Jay. Yeah.

You're at WrestleMania of some sort. you're at uh get up on ESPN you're at richmond raceway for NASCAR you're at uh I'm forgetting things well yeah there's a lot of shit this week there was a ton of shit some shit we can't even mention yet like Kyle having a kid actually we can mention it because he tweeted I was like I don't think we're going to be talking about Kyle long having a congrats Kyle congratulations Kyle Kyle Kyle had a kid I saw wrestling in person uh I had to go to new york and the NASCAR thing which is going to be the best part of the show. No shade.

None taken. This open's going to be fire, but the NASCAR accounting is going to be incredible, including Dr. Fax, and we'll bring him back in for that in a few minutes. Let's talk about get up. Because, holy shit, TV is different. It's way different.

I kind of like podcasting, honestly. Why? Well, 5.05 alarm clock. Where were you? How far away where you're staying? I was staying pretty close to that beautiful building they have down there. When you see GetUp on TV, it's right next to the Habah. But the backdrop is not real.

It's not real. That was the biggest revelation for me. One, it's early. Two, those aren't real boats in the background behind Mike Greenberg's head. It's not that they're not real boats. It's just the fact that it's a fucking computer screen and it's incredible because the last few years I've been watching Get Up and thinking, man, it's always sunny and there's a bunch of ferries just like.

populating that backdrop. It's perfect. How did they get it that way? Do they have different videos for cloudy days, fake cloudy days? I don't know. I got to keep track of that, but it was kind of overcast. And on the screen, it was sunny. The last couple years you were watching, get up. It had an exclamation point. They've done away. You noticed stuff like that. They went away with. It's a fun show. I love being on there with Diana, who we know, friend of the program, Teddy Bruske, Dan Graziano, Mike Tannenbaum, another friend of the program in the past. And just like Chris Canney. I mean, like I'm sitting next to a guy and Chris Canney

who showed me the ropes in 2004 at Virginia. And I'm sitting next to a guy who's grown into this immense TV talent that's gone toe to toe with like Stephen A. Smith. And he's able to help me kind of like along the way my second day I get up. But I did two days. They were morning shows. They were largely a lot of fun. I was in two different suits.

That hasn't happened in a long time. and my alarm clock went off before 7 a.m. Did you, were you able to walk to the studio or did they send a car for you? They sent a car. What time was the car there? The car was there around, I want to say, 615. So you needed the hour 10 to shower. No, the problem is I had to shower, get my suit on, and we have a 6 a.m. call.

So I take the call and then I get to the studio. So there's a lot that goes into shows like that. They have tremendous producers, just like we do here. shout out to those guys and they had me ready to roll and it's Chris be thinking about X, Y, and Z? Yeah, you get a little intel on what's going on the night before, of course.

The first night I was there, the Bruce Ariens thing dropped. So we had all these really fun exercises that were very off-seasoning. Like, ranked these teams, do this, do that. You know, talk about the trades. And so I had kind of like done all my research and then Bruce Ariens decides

that he's going to step down around dinner time and I'm getting ready to try to go to sleep. And by the way, I can't sleep in that city, dude. I can feel the people. The city literally never sleeps. The city never sleeps. Bruce Ariens is stepping down. Let's hit that first before we finish.

We get up. But like, you see that the first time. What do you think? That Tom has stepped down Bruce Ariens. Yeah. He was like, hey, come down here. Will you step down for a second? Yeah.

I do think there was at least a nudge. But I think there's a big difference between a nudge and a push. I think this happened as cordially as it could have. I think that Bruce probably immensely respects Tom Brady. I think that Tom Brady probably appreciates Bruce Ariens when it came to, you know, football and calling plays. And that's what I think. Tom Brady's extremely particular.

He's been doing this a long time. He's the goat. He has his way of doing things. I wondered before it started how this was going to work out. And it worked out swimmingly. They come out of it with a Super Bowl, like mission accomplished. So I do think although they probably part ways, and I don't know what the sequencing was, whether he talked about what he needed to happen before he went to the man you soccer game

or if the timing, you know, they tease this out. So they gave it some distance from Tom ruining selection Sunday and coming out of retirement. Like I don't care how it happened. I really do think everybody's a winner here. I really do think that. I think number one, Tom Brady's a winner. He gets what he wants. he's had a really good relationship with Byron Lefwich.

And on top of that, Tom Brady's going to become the closest thing to an offensive coordinator under center in league history, in my opinion. And I just mentioned Byron Lefich, who was in talks with Jacksonville and kind of got out at the last second due to what we thought was a disagreement,

like maybe on a philosophical level with Trent Balke, who's made some great picks over the years, but in San Francisco, I think, was where he was last time when we used to play San Francisco, they had one of the most talented roster in the league. Whatever that disagreement was, seems to be the thing that kept him from getting that job

or taking that job. Obviously, they ended up with Doug Peterson. So what I'm about to say is, I know this is confusing to some people who can't think in nuance, and I said this on Get Up, is like, Byron Lefich kind of wins because of this.

Byron Lefich could have had the Jacksonville job. People say, ah, Chris, you said, this is a great fit for Doug Peterson. Doug Peterson, congratulations, he's the guy for the job, this is a decent job, and then for Byron Left, which is not.

Well, I think the simple fact that you're missing is that Byron Leftwich has never done this before, and I think that's north of a zero equation in my head. I mean, like Jacksonville is a bit of a shit show. They've already spent monopoly money on, you know, non-premium positions on the defensive side of the ball from defenses that weren't great. They paid Christian Kirk $18 million.

They paid your guy Evan Ingram $9 million. They paid Brandon Sheriff, who's a really good player, but hasn't been healthy. Like, this is not how you want to win, but you have to invest in that rookie quarterback. So on one hand, I get it. I think that Byron Lefich will have better opportunities in a calendar year because he's going to get due credit for working with Tom and Bruce Ariens is gone. And the jobs will be better. I just have to figure there will be a better job. So we got Tom a winner, Byron Lefwich a winner, Bruce Ariens a winner, because he goes out, whether he

wanted to do this, whether this was part of his five-year plan or not, he goes out a guy that's always done right by his assistance. He certainly didn't hand Todd Bulls this job. Todd Bulls earned this job, but he is looking out for Todd Bowles in a sense in not fighting this thing, the timing of it, and leaving this team in the division that it plays in a better position than where he found it in continuing his legacy and doing this thing the right way. Most coaches don't know when to get out. Bruce Aaron's a 70 years old. He played on a fucking buck. Macillies last year. He coached on Obama Achilles last year. On top of all this speculation,

why can't a guy just want to ride off into the sunset and have another glass of whatever it was? He was, whatever the emoji was, he tweeted at Tom. And who knows how long that fucking congratulations Bruce was in his draft. So I think that's my biggest burning question. In Bruce's words, succession is way

more important to me. This has been my dream for a long time. I wanted one of my guys to take over. That's more important to me than anything. You think he's a Greg guy? Bruce Ariens Would no he's a Logan guy Yeah he's definitely a Logan Roy guy He's he's he's Logan

Which and he's been pushed out by By is Tom Brady Is Greg the Egg? No just Tom Brady Tom Wamscans Who who but yeah Nice square chan Yeah one of those guys that pushed

But yeah so he's a big succession guy I think I think that's the cynical take And it's probably on a level The True take that there was some sort of nudging out the door. But that doesn't mean that everybody's not super happy in the end. Like talk to Bruce Ariens in a calendar year,

the guy that when he retired the first time in Arizona was like, I miss my family. How do you think he feels about his grandkids and that sort of thing? It's 70-something years old. This is a great opportunity. Yeah. To be fair. Exit stage left.

How many dog years do you think? Well, 69, you're like, you're like somersault. Yeah, you're doing somersault. Exit up and over, up and over. I got it. So Bruce Ariens, good for him. He's always done things the right way. He's always been on the right side of history.

And I think like, and I paid attention to the phrasing here. Some people have said like he handed Todd Bowles the job, that sort of thing. He handed Todd Bowles the keys, but Todd Bowles are in this car. He earned it when he, when he fought valiantly as the Jets head coach in a division with Brady. His quarterbacks. Fitzpatrick, Fitzpatrick, McKeown,

Darnold, a little bit of Bryce Petty. Yeah, dude, he won 10 games with Ryan Fitzpatrick. I mean, that might have been Ryan's best year. And I, you know, I think. the world of Ryan, but it's not even like he had him a long time. Like Todd Bowles is somebody who's universally respected by the people that played for him. He's also respected by football fans, and he's respected by the people in that building. And this is why I think the bucks actually get better, because I think Todd Bowles is going to be a great coach.

I think that the separation of church and state between defense and offense is going to be really clean and easy for that team. You think about that, like, if the head coach is an offensive guy, that's like every moment that Bruce Arons is spending, fighting battles with Tom Brady over the game plan is a moment that he's not game planning for the entire team, you know, worrying about all the other stuff that head coaches have to worry about. And I'm not saying it was a constant battle, but I think that Todd Bowles' marriage will be great. A lot of people have also said Todd Bowles is kind of like a Belichick kind of guy, like he's a hard ass, and maybe Tom came around and realized that he needed that. I don't think that's the case. I think Tom might think that the team needed that, but Tom doesn't need that. What Tom needs is for

people to get the fuck out of the way, I think. And so... their demeanors from the TV tape appear to be similar. Yeah, no question. And Todd's no bullshit. And I'm just really excited for Todd Bulls. I'm excited for Todd Bulls. I'm also excited if I'm a Bucks fan because you don't even have to get better. Like, you just could stay the same and you'll probably be in the Super Bowl.

The NFC is taking a step back. You know, we've talked about Devonte Adams. We've talked about Aaron Rogers, him not having a number of targets to throw to, you know, guys like Zedaria Smith, you have to replace. Last year, they were as good as they possibly could have been in my mind. I thought they were really good. I thought they would win the Super Bowl at different junctures in the year.

And they went one and done at home against the Jimmy G-led Niners. So look around the league, you know, NFC East. You know, giving a nod to the Eagles with some upside here, but I don't see a Super Bowl contender in the NFC East. I just don't believe the Cowboys. I'm sorry. In the NFC West, the team that just won the Super Bowl is the Rams, right? And so the other day on Get Up, I said this.

I said, who are the teams in the NFC? I saw this second. Yeah. And I really do believe that if Jimmy G. remains in San Francisco, which from people in the know I hear is like, it's a possibility. It's not a foregone conclusion they ship them out of there, which also says something about Trey Lance and maybe what they think at this juncture. If Jimmy G's back there, they beat the Rams damn near three times last year. I mean, they really were almost in the same position they were in 2019.

So it's a big deal that the Niners are still. a fucking a tough team. And in the NFC, there's not a lot of them. The Rams, I'm playing the averages, if I put the Niners ahead of them. I'm playing the averages, meaning how many teams come back the year after they win a Super Bowl and actually get better?

I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of them that kind of hover around the same amount of wins. I look back, there were some that, over the last 10, 15 years, that maintain kind of a pace, but to go into the playoffs and then do it again is really hard. These are really long seasons.

The longest season we've ever had just got extended for these guys, right? They've also lost Odell Beckham Jr., Robert Woods left, and Matt Stafford is an older guy who I really believe was banged up last year. You don't believe it? Look at his tape in the playoffs and look at it in the middle of the year when people were saying he was banged up. Everybody laughed it off and were like people are caping for Matt Stafford. They weren't.

He's really fucking jacked up. He played a decade in Detroit. So I think that doesn't get any easier for him. I'm not saying I'm thinking he's going to get hurt or predicting an injury. I'm just saying like when you have a quarterback who's who's that weathered just went through all this. He got fucking obliterated some games last year. He might be dinged one or two games. So like if you're going to bet win totals, which is what we were talking about, I would take the slight under on the Rams win

total. I got an over for you. Give me it. Minnesota Vikings. You know it's fucked up. I think it's time to jump off of that, that anti-vikings bandwagon. I have no idea why they paid Kirk Cousins. I don't think they're good enough to contend for a super.

but they might fuck around and be like kind of a pain in the ass. And Kevin O'Connell or whatever the hell his name is. Could be great. It's another guy that knows Sean McVeigh and those guys, but he's tall. That's the only thing about him. I like that. Speaking of shorter Kings,

we're gonna get to Mike McDaniel on the second and Tua and all that stuff, because I know some people have been patiently waiting for that. But I do wanna mention Bobby Wagner joining the Rams, which is something that happened while I was there at Get Up. I think Bobby Wagner's a big signing for them, for a few reasons. Anytime you can snag a Hall of Fame,

from a division rival. Like, that's a thing of beauty. On top of that, they have ballplayers, like real bona fide, Hall of Fame ball players at every level of defense now. You got Jalen Ramsey, you have Bobby Wagner, you have Aaron Donald, obviously. He's also going to help because they haven't had great linebacker play.

His production in the field, it's untold. Anytime a guy north of 30 is changing schemes, he might not be the Bobby Wagner in his prime, but here's where he helps them the most, dude. I just mentioned how hard it is to repeat. that Seattle defense basically for all intents and purposes won two Super Bowls in a row

basically for all intents and purposes only counts horseshoes and hand grenades I got it when Seattle's defense left the field and handed the keys to Russell Wilson you look at them at the one yard line I mean we know the deal

I'm not going to go backwards but they basically did their job and put them in a position to win two Super Bowls and that LOB kind of kind of team that broke up along the way he was probably their best player If I'm being honest, through all the years, their best football player in L-O-B is probably

Bobby Wagner. He's going to be the guy that can show them how to do that. He's going to be the guy that's going to show them, like, here are the ways that we got fat and happy. You know, the year after we won that Super Bowl, here are the ways that, you know, here are the things that even the fans didn't hear about that happened in the locker room because these things happen

all the time. Like, not every, everything that happens in the locker room gets outed by an unnamed source. Like, in 2018, we were trying to defend a Super Bowl. That was so challenging. Like immediately coaches go into, we don't look backwards, we don't even talk about the Super Bowl. That's going to get us complacent. We're going to make mistakes as a result.

And then there's a bunch of like, we don't get complacent signs on the wall, which of course remind you of the Super Bowl. Correct. And all the coaches are doing, you know, book deals and the players doing book deals. And I'm not saying that's why you don't repeat, but I'm saying it's not something that you can ignore. It's an elephant in the room that you have to address and you have to address it the right way and say, we are defending Super Bowl champions. That happened.

It's about what we do this year. And Bobby Wagner knows how to go about doing that that year. So I really think that he helps the Rams in a lot of ways. And now he's got the Seahawks twice. And as you will remember, he wasn't thrilled with the way that exit happened. And I agree. That was bullshit. I mean, we've talked about it on this pod.

But like anytime you've got the best player on one of the best most historic defense of all time and that gifted Schneider and Carol Super Bowings and Russell Wilson and all those guys. I'm not saying he gifted Russell Wilson and he didn't do anything or anything like that. I do think you've got to show more appreciation for the straw that oftentimes stirred the drink for you. John Schneider did take blame for it

and said he should have handled it differently. And he also said it's a little bit different when a player represents himself. And I can get that. Yeah, you can if you're actually working a trade. Right. Like you're not releasing a player. Like I totally get it.

If Richard Sherman is his own agent and I come to Richie Sherman, like I'm not going to give him all the details of what's in the works because you lose leverage. It's not good to show you. Yeah, you could bring him back. But once you've decided you can't trade Bobby Wagner, the first place I go is to his house. Or I call him on the phone and I tell him you're being released. I was not Bobby Wagner, but Jeff Fisher called me immediately. I learned about it from Jeff Fisher. I was fucking running an errand.

Like I knew I was probably not part of the team's plans next year. I told you I lived in a hotel the last couple months of the season because I had to sell my place. Team was moving. I was hurt two years. So I knew the writing was on the wall. And maybe Bobby did too for a number of reasons. Not that his exit was as disastrous as mine on the field.

But like Bobby Wagner deserved that call. It's a little thing, but it goes a long way. Should we talk about two and on? Yeah, of which I am a member. You are. Okay. That's good to know. Well, and I was hoping maybe we could pop over to NFL shop.com and maybe get me a little bit of gear.

Like some Tua? Yeah. I mean, I'm sure. Like on the Greenlight budget? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You want me to budget into the Greenlight budget. Yeah. To a gear.

Yep. No problem. Okay. Because I want to lean all the way into this thing. But out of the two biggest wide receiver moves, I like this one way better than Tyreek Hill to Miami. I think it's great for Tyreek in Miami, but there's a guy that can throw him the ball in Vegas. And what Tyreek does As he takes the top off defense, that doesn't really

match up with what they do there. Like, first off, I was on Get Up as we've been talking about and we were talking about DeVante Adams trade which I think some people initially it's stuck in my head that people were critical of Devante Adams' decision making. Like, why would you want to leave Aaron Rogers

to go to Vegas where we've been down this road? They won the same amount of playoff games last year. They played in the same amount of playoff games last year. Derek Carr's a really good quarterback that I don't think gets enough credit. I think a lot of people shit on him. So when I was discussing the Devante Adams trade, I said I like it better

than the other trade when it came down to elite wide receivers changing teams this year. That's not to say I hate the move. That's not to say I hate Tyree Khill or I hate Tua. I like the other trade better. Now if it came across disrespectful Tua, the only person I'd like

to apologize to is Tua. Because I really like Tua. I actually love Tua as a guy from from afar and everything I've heard about to as a as a dude from coaches and players has been positive as far as like and I could see that without asking my peers I mean we've talked about on this show all the time this guy's been through a ton of shit you know I was a top five pick I know how many things are stacked against you I know the context that that you can color in a lack of production when a player's not getting it done as a top five pick I that was me for a year

and a half for sure, dude. But I also wasn't a quarterback. And like, you can't have a ceiling as a quarterback and expect people not to point it out if you're a top five pick. If you have a ceiling as a position player as a top five pick, I think most people eventually get down with the fact that like, oh, he's not a bus, but, you know, he's a really good player or he's somebody that can help our team and we're happy we have him. Maybe we would have rather had XYZ player.

It doesn't work like that with quarterbacks. You pick two or right after you passed up Justin Herbert. And at the moment, I think what makes this really tough for people to hear any criticism of Tua is that's something they know very well. And they also knew that when they drafted Tua, they probably felt like we just hit the jackpot. Everybody tanked for Tua, right? That was the whole thing. And what came out of it was Tua for Miami. They never expected he'd be there.

But he was there. And so people got really excited. And I think what we found over the last two years is that he has a little bit of a ceiling. He can't make all the throws. These are the things he had to deal with. Poor offensive line play. Who, by the way, I mean, some of my peers in sports media would point out that when they pointed that out in 2020, they got drugged by Dolphins' Twitter over this. And it turned out to be absolutely true that the offensive line was dog shit.

So the offensive line's been dog shit, which happens on bad team. Sorry, I watched it with San Bradford. I don't feel sorry for anybody. The comparison to Herbert's unfair, but it is what it is. You had Fitsy. You had the back and forth in 2008. in 19 where. Fitsy kept winning games.

Yeah, I mean, the Raiders game is the one that sticks out in my head as being the most kind of like tough one if you're two of because it was a big game for them. They were fighting for their playoff lives. They were struggling off and on throughout the game. And Fitzpatrick comes in and I think this was the second time there was a quarterback change throughout the course of the year and he lights it up.

You know, remember the broken neck catch on the left sideline. But Fitsy just had like, like the veteran magic, he seemed to be more of a gunslinger. He seemed to be a guy with the same coordinator, who, by the way, and to his support was not, to his coordinator, it was Chan Gaylee, it's Fitzpatrick's coordinator. He's the guy that seemed more comfortable. Shocker, but Tua just didn't seem to want to push the ball down the field.

And I know some people are like, God damn it, Chris. National media has been saying this for months. Well, don't you think maybe national media has been saying it for months because it's a thing? I got accused of copying takes, dude. I don't need the copy takes. Maybe there's a reason there are a multitude of people questioning Tua's armstring. And by the way, these are people that I've texted and reached out to that are in football

or played with Tua or like, and I'll have good things to say about Tua. He's just not a fucking arm arrogant guy. How many quarterbacks would you rank ahead of him in arm arrogance in the NFL? So when I say on Get Up that when Tyreek goes to Miami, I worry that. you're shipping a quarterback who's on a prove-a-year, who hasn't made all the throws, who hasn't thrown the ball deep with regularity, you're losing a little bit of the top-end production

from a guy that, yes, catches a ton of balls next to the line of scrimmage. We get that. I've seen the numbers, dude. Like, Tyreek Hill is going to help you guys. It's going to be a yachtery, dude. A yactory, trademarked that. Jalen Waddle, Gaseki,

Cedric Wilson, you've got now Tyree Kill. I know this fits his skill sets in a lot of ways because you want yak. You've got to be able to get the ball out quick. That's what he does. He's relatively accurate and short game. He's run a ton of RPO's. He ran that stuff at Bama.

He can hit those slants and this isn't like a backhanded compliment. Some guys are just those guys. If Tyree Kill had gone to New England, I would have lamented the fact that Josh Allen isn't throwing Tyree Kill a fucking deep ball. We're going from Patrick Mahomes to Tua. That's fair as fuck to point out that it's a lot. little less sexy to see, you know, somebody who can throw the ball up 70 yards. I'm exaggerating a little bit.

Every arm angle off the spot and get Tyreek the ball. Broken plays the whole thing. Not everything has to be a bubble screen, man, you know, or a slant. And it's fine that that's your meat and potatoes. But I'm just pointing out that Tyreek could have been traded somewhere that I'd be a little bit more excited to see him play. Now, that doesn't mean he's not going to help you guys. I think you'll be better this year.

You'll still probably not win a playoff game because the AFC, if you haven't noticed, you need a guy, dude, and I'm not even saying to us sucks. I'm just saying, where do you rank him in the AFC as far as quarterbacks are concerned? And yes, I know that some of this thing

has been like a broken record, but there's a reason people have questioned him being able to make all the throws. Don't send me Bama throws, middle of the field, 50 yards. Don't send me seven shots that he took last year

because that sample size is too small. And by the way, I had a guy say, well, he hit four of seven of his shots last year. That's tops in the league in efficiency. Maybe there's a reason that sample size is so fucking small, man. So I like, listen, guys, I don't hate Tua. You're going to make me hate Tua,

which would be highly unfortunate. I don't even want to root against Tua. But you fucking goobers are going to make me root against Tua because you don't know football. I totally get it. I've read the articles about how, I read an article in Sports Illustrated today, about how, well, Tyreeks not even to take the top off the defense type of guy. Look at his 2021 stats, which were, by the way, among the lowest in his career. Actually, the lowest in his career, I think, since 2018 when they

started tracking air yards. So it's been a few years, which is part of the reason I suspected, as I point out, his yards per catch or yards per attempt were the lowest since a few years ago, that maybe Kansas City was like all things, good things must come to an end. They're also playing coverages differently in Kansas City because of the guy under center. I don't know if Tyreek and Jalen are going to affect coverages

as much as they would elsewhere because of the guy under center throwing the football. And yes, with two crow hops and time and the offensive line being better, too will be a better deep ball thrower, no question. But don't tell me that he can leave the spot and hurt you from anywhere outside the pocket,

at 30 yards down the field. Nope. Don't be mad at me. Be mad at your front office. They took two over Justin Herbert. I even like the kid. I'm uncomfortable. There's not a player in the league.

I'd like to be doing this segment about less. But he has a ceiling. And this year we're going to find out if it's him or somebody else. And that's been said out loud. They were trying to trade for a guy with 21 fucking civil cases. You know who the other guy they were trying to replace with that guy was? Baker Mayfield. So I'm just letting you guys know.

Baker Mayfield and Tua, totally different kind of guys, but for different reasons, guys with ceilings. And that's why your team was looking to move on as recently as this offseason. Do you think McDaniel feels like he's upgraded his QB position or downgraded it? I don't know. Honestly, you'd have to ask him, and I don't even know if I'm that, I don't even know if I'm comfortable making that determination because they're kind of different players. but, and I honestly think Jimmy throws a little bit better deep ball than Tua,

but that's not really like where Jimmy lived. I think me, Daniel might be the perfect guy for the job here. If you're going to get something out of Tua, and you're going to realize his potential on a given team, like you need to have a yactory. You need to get people open. You need the run game to be really solid. That's what he did in San Francisco.

They added the running backs. They tried to upgrade the offensive line. Can Armstead stay healthy? Can they stay healthy? You know, are guys going to buy, into this style of play that they've thrived with in San Francisco. I also think they'll probably tailor the offense like any good coach would, Tutua.

So do I think he'll improve this year? Fuck yeah. Do I think you're going to win a playoff game? Fuck no. Do I think you're going to win a Super Bowl while most of you are alive? Probably not. It's like fucking rolling the dice. I don't think so.

And I think that's fair to say, look at the AFC. You're going to tell me you're winning that division. If you're not going to win the division, how many playoff games you got to win? math here. Four. So what the fuck? You're going to beat Josh Allen, Russell Wilson, you're going to beat Burrow, you're going to be like Patrick Mahomes. Like, dude, you have to have a dude in the AFC. So y'all need to fucking wipe your tears and know that you can expect me to and on. Expect me. I will be here all fall. Anytime he underthrows somebody, I'm going to be an asshole about it. And I didn't even want to do that because I love Tua, but I'm going to be a fucking

dickhead about it, dude. Yeah, so expect us. Yeah, expect you. The last time we saw Tua be excellent. Yeah. He had Jerry Judy, Devante Smith, Henry Ruggs, Jalen Waddle, Naji Harris in the backfield. That's when he threw 33

touchdowns. Tettys just I remember that. Was it an Ole Miss? So now he's surrounded by similar talent. Bro, you're pulling out fucking, you're pulling tape from the 8 millimeter film that you got to load into a fight. Like, it's in a canister. The tape that people have been handed me is in a canister.

It's before the Pandy. Donald Trump was president. But I got Mike McDaniel now with Rahim Moster, Chase Edmonds. It's going to be better. Miles Gaskin. It's going to be better. Is he a good deep ball thrower to and on?

Well, I'm just saying, and I understand their yards, it's not as if they're going to stop running with Tyreek Hill on a flag route. Like, they're going to run with them. No question. And he's going to run jet sweeps and all this stuff. They're going to open things up. Answer a couple yes or no questions. Is to a top 10 quarterback?

In the NFL? Yeah. No. Is he a top 10 quarterback in the AFC? Yes. Let's do it. Okay. I've been doing this for three days now.

Okay, I haven't done this once. Okay, I got Josh Allen is in there. Yep. I'm going to go by division. AFCs. I'm not putting Mac Jones ahead of them. Are you? I don't know, man.

Okay, that's a close one. Okay, we'll come back. I probably would, dude. I'm putting Mac Jones ahead of Tua. Okay. Lamar, yes. I said that week one, too, of the season. And I said it respectfully as I could,

but I said Mac Jones is going to be a better pro. Okay, I got Lamar, yes. Yeah. Joe Burrow, yes, better. Deshawn Watson, yes, better. Whoever's in Pittsburgh, no. No. Davis Mills, no.

Eventually. That's my guy, Davis Mills. Expect us. Okay, expect to yourself. Oh, Davis Mills actually, my guy, you know, remember I said. Are you fucking kidding? Are you trying to my guy? I said, take him high.

You did take him. I said it's my favorite quarterback to the draft to somebody. Can he be our guy? Sure. Greenlight pot guy, Davis Mills. The quarterback in Indianapolis is, Not Ryan.

Yes. This year, dude. I'll say no. Okay, but it's on the edge. It's on the, it's you're thinking about it. So we're at five. Trevor Lawrence.

I say no. Okay. It's a difficult one though. Have we got to the AFC West yet? No, yet. Okay. Ryan Tannahill.

I'd rather have Tua. Okay, dude. Well, so, okay, we'll leave it to you. Okay, good take. Sure. Good take. Enjoy that one.

Go to the next quarterback. I'm not even going to count that one. Russell Wilson. I'd rather have Russ. Yes. Mahomes. I'd rather have my homes. Derek Carr, give me Derek Carr. Which also was the point I was making essentially.

Herbert. Herbert, give me Herbert. Where are we? Nine? We're at nine. Two at ten. Two a ten. Two a ten. To a ten of Iowa. But in the AFC, I mean, to your point. Yes. So. It's the year 2020. They're not that. I'm sure everyone will make the playoffs. The year of our Lord. But we're not there yet. And where would you rank him in his division? We said it possibly third. Maybe second. At the end of the season, he could be second best quarterback in the division because I do think there's an inevitable dip when it comes

to our friend mac Jones i mean like unless they really load up a receiver and by the way devante parker how did Miami feel about him shipping him into division man oh shit but uh not always healthy devonte right here on this website I have to a 13 on steelers wire they have Mitch tribisky ahead of him okay steel that says it all got but I'm just making sure that we made mentioned everybody. You had, I think Matt Ryan's better. So. Okay. Yeah, I'm, I'm, but we have them in the category with Matt Ryan, Mac Jones. There might be, is there a backup in the AFC? There might be, the way I'm thinking about it, though, is Ryan Fitzpatrick playing the AFC this year? Like, the Jags wouldn't trade Trevor Lawrence for Tua. No, because of the upside. The Patriots wouldn't trade

Mac Jones for Tua. You're asking me to bet on Tua's upside. And I don't think the Texans would trade Davis Mills for Tua, just putting that out there. I think there's a lot of question I think that's the bottom line. We are all sane people that watch football. We sit in here every Sunday and watch all the games. I gamble on dolphins games. Listen, this year I watched him. He threw some beautiful back shoulder balls.

I mean, like I saw against your giants, he hit Devante Parker with a couple gorgeous back shoulder balls. He put things all over the field except for really deep against Jacksonville. I mean, like he threw for 3.30 in London, and that was a great game. There was a ton of games through that winning streak where at the very least he was very clean. He didn't make mistakes. But, dude, it's like I punched your baby. He's not a deep ball thrower until he proves he is.

I got a good one for you. Yeah. Tua or Teddy Bridgewater? What weak is it? One. No, Tua. I like Tua, dude. I like Tua.

I want Tua to succeed. Well, and by the way, Mike McDaniel, and this proves my point better than anything, Mike McDaniel got helped Jimmy G's had 100 passer rating He's turned him into a 90 passer rating 100 passer rating guy Has helped turn him into a 100 rating passer guy If he can replicate that in Miami

You'll still be one A different quarterback in a year or two People in San Francisco Well I don't know about people in San Francisco But nationally they've written off Jimmy G Even if it's a success I do feel like still you'll want more Out of the arm arrogance of the quarterback

Undercenter In a division where you've got Josh Allen unless Josh Allen gets hit by a truck like he's not going anywhere dude unless Mac Jones gets hit by a truck like a fucking Peterbilt he's not going anywhere

LA no draft capital had the assets to move a Jared Gough Jared Gough probably a similar commodity to a Tua if it doesn't work out so maybe Miami does have a flexibility I think it's a better commodity I am HO my humble opinion

Gaw I think no I think Tua is a better for sure so I'm just saying if they need to move on from two eventually they could do it. I think he's injuries. Like guys like I didn't ask to like lay all this bear.

I mean I didn't want to lay all this bear. It was like last night when you told me a Twitter accused me of being reek from Game of Thrones, which I didn't get because I have a dick between my legs. But I said I'm more like brand. I said I have one and it's longer than Tua's average yards per attempt. And that was funny. And yeah, I don't care if it was yards per attempt was average and I was in such a rush to tweet the thing, but you guys don't really like facts.

I mean, it's like a fucking cult, dude. I said Jim Jones, I tweeted a picture of Jim Jones, the original Jim Jones. I was like, this is Dolphins Twitter, dude. You guys are all drinking the Kool-Aid, man. Am I Bran? Is that my name? Flan. What hell is his name? Brand.

Yeah, it's Bran. Brand. Yeah, I'm Bran. I'm the winner. Spoiler alert. Yeah. So you're too on still after that whole conversation. Yeah, yeah. Expect us. And maybe I'm too. and on. Maybe what I just did is admit

that I'm two and on. But can I be to an on and question his deep ball throwing ability? Because if there's a way that I could be two and on and still question his deep ball throwing ability, I'm in dude. Deep fake. Could this be like dude, I've been talking to the

head honcho dolphin. I told him to meet me in Tamacula like that guy. He was there. Yeah. Then he was in Tamacula. To a non deep fake because he can't throw it that far. Fucking slimy porpoise. Colts all operate under the notion that you can't question them. It's just another cult.

Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, if they're capable of questioning to his arm arrogance, then we can talk. And I would love to join Tune on. I feel like, you all, you all should. Yeah. Yeah, I know. We have meetings.

We have meetings. Oh, you have to and on meetings. Yeah. Expect us. Now, I know a lot of you might be tuning in listening quietly. A lot of you guys with, with podcasts that you haven't found. a way to monetize many of your dolphins fans i i met a lot of you this week probably also miami hurricanes fans which explains a lot and they also keep coming back it took a lot of career

shots this week and my response has been my career in my opinion was great the second one's going even better because i found a way to make money off the shit that you're doing for free i also have a foundation so maybe we have that that in common like your fins-up podcast or your whatever you know fucking it's like fucking pissing into a hurricane all right well we can't talk about talking about two of the whole time, but I will say this. We said average depth of target. We were talking about that Sports Illustrated article and why it's disingenuous to say, you know, Tyreek Hill's not even a deep ball guy. He caught this many balls close to the line of scrimmings last year. This is intellectually dishonest. Average depth of target, 10.4 air yards,

lowest since 2018. Previous low was 12.9 in 2019 and 2020. Okay. In 2018, it was 14.8. So look at that, look at that difference. Okay, 10.4 yards, 14.8 yards. That's 4.4 yards. So now subtract 4.4 from 10.4. It's six. That's the difference between a receiver that's depth of target is 6 yards and Tyreek Hill and the old Tyreek Hill and Tyreek Hill

last year in Kansas City. So don't cherry pick fucking, unless he got slow, there are ways to get the ball to him deep and pump off big gainers. Okay. He's also the highest cushion at the line of scrimmage in Kansas City last year since 2018. All we talked about last year was cover two, making them take the profit.

Like, that's what they were doing, right? Did you guys miss that whole fucking talking points and should you show into media talking points? Fucking geniuses. What did Cinderella Dolphin lose at the ball? For glass flipper. That's pretty fucking good. You're going to get flamed, dude.

Even though you're into and on, they're going to be just flaming you for bad jokes. Yeah, I mean, he had 13 receptions 20 plus yards last year. Like that's nothing. I get it, but he had 27 a couple years ago. It's like, I don't know. Tyree can still take the top off defense guys. When the dolphin was feeling sad like Tua,

how did the octopus make him laugh? With 10 tickles. Tenticles. Did you hear about the elderly dolphin? No. He lost his hair. These days, it seems like life forces us to be on all the time. So every now and again, it's important to stop and reset.

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So these top players, they're looking to get drafted. They're going through a combine preparation process. They're working towards the combine, senior bowl, team workouts and interviews to put them in the best position to be drafted at the end of the month. Talk about what you went through. Talk about. and what you think these guys, how these guys prep for, you know, three months after their college football season ended.

Is this for Chris or me? Whatever insight you have. Add whatever you can. Okay. About the NFL draft process. You can go first. No, it's, I don't know how much has changed since 2008 now. I mean, like, obviously the contracts have changed and that sort of thing.

But it's a crapshoot. It's even a crapshoot for people at the top of the draft, unless you're like a unanimous first pick. like I heard things like I was going anywhere from one to six was kind of where we talked about it. And I think that the one through six was bookended by Miami and, uh, and, uh, and, uh, the jets, and the jets and Goldston. So, um, went from Jake Long to Goldston and, and, you know, and everybody in there between, whether it was Matt Ryan, Derrick Fadden, Glenn Dorsey, I forget who else. I don't think anybody was slated. Um, and that's the most interesting thing is,

you just don't know. Now, there's some guys that'll have a good idea of where they're going. Like the night before the draft, I found out where I was going. I got a call from Scott Lanahan in a bathroom stall. Not he wasn't in a bathroom stall. I was in a bathroom stall because I had my friends up to have a draft party. And we were at this restaurant and everybody came up there. Dr. Fax was up there.

Some former teammates, Clint Sentum, you know, a whole bunch of dudes. Kevin Ogletree was up there. Needless to say, I had to get out of the. the mix to go to go take the call and j glazer was at the party and to jay's credit he was in the no and he told me scott lenehan told me on the phone that like they were going to pick me in the morning well wait wait jay glazer told you before the phone call he was like i want you to talk to scott lennan on the phone so he was the connective tissue between me and scott linnahann so i knew that you know i was going to fall the two Miami had their guy and jake had miami already signed him

No, no, it wasn't quite that foregone. Okay. And I think what's interesting is through this whole thing, you have to sell yourself as being the first pick. And I decided not to do that. My answer was always, and Kavon Tibado's had a totally different answer. And again, like, I wish I was that guy that just knew I was, I'm the best thing, you know, since sliced bread.

Like, I'm me, bro. I'm going to give you everything I have. I'm going to scratch and claw for it. but I don't know if I'm the best player in the draft. We'll play it out. And that was kind of my response to most teams. Like, listen, I'm not here worried about anybody else. I'm worried about me.

So, you know, like, am I going to be the best player in draft? We'll see. But I'm going to be the best player. I can be Tibido's answer, Thibbado's answer. Kvon's. Kvon's answer was, I think it's an insult to think that anybody could be better in me in this draft. And considering the depth of defensive end and even the top end kind of talent,

maybe if I'm KT, I'm like, yeah. I mean, like, they can't do what I can do physically. And honestly, that attitude doesn't concern me. It really doesn't. I'm going to look at his tape. That's what I'm going to look at as I get ready to make a decision that's going to, you know, alter the trajectory of a franchise in big and small ways. Interview process is weird, though, now.

I mean, like, you're going to be asked a lot of interesting direct questions. And I don't think all of them are about. the answer to the question. I think most of them are about gauging the reaction, which was in the NFL, there was an older practice that's kind of been exposed now because players have platforms of them just asking

outlandish questions. Like just ridiculous questions. I don't think they can do that as much anymore. They don't have the cover. I get in spirit why you might ask a guy something just totally fucking outlandish, like asking Jake Long when the last time he did heroin was or whatever it was.

I don't know. Don't quote me. there was a guy that was asked something like that. I haven't done heroin. I've only done Coors Light. Easy answer. That was my answer. I was like, Coach, I just drink Coors Light. Good, clean fun.

But that's the type of stuff that they'll ask you to see if you're fucking squeamish or like if you'll like squirm in the chair. And I remember like weird things now like Herm Edwards sitting in the bathroom. I've talked about this every time we talk about the draft. Herm Edwards sitting in the bathroom in the back of the meeting room. They're asking me all these questions. The head coach is sitting in the bathroom facing like the mirror. He's not even like really like listening to the meeting.

And I wondered now like years later when I hear about all these crazy fucking questions if that's just a thing to see if I'm going to react to the coach just looking like I'm Medusa. Did you have a any type of coach or some kind of person helping prep for those questions? were they telling you this is the best kind of answer? So a lot of time your agent might prep with you. Like I had signed an agent that was very like hands off. He was all about getting the contract done.

I didn't sign like a Drew Rosenhouse type agent that's going to be like intimately involved in everything you do. I wanted that for a number of reasons. Number one, that's just not really my style. Number two, like there's less of a chance that you have some issue with another player. My agent Marvin Demoff. Marvin Demoff didn't have any players really anymore. It was just me. And then it was eventually my brother.

and he had represented a lot of players back in the day. So I didn't have an agent that was kind of training me. It wasn't like a holistic program to get ready for the draft for me. I went up to train in New Jersey. There was certainly some, hey, this is how you're going to be cross-examined. But largely, I just kind of let it fly. And I think now, though, it's become such a science that guys are in these, like, kind of pods, like being asked mock questions, reacting to them,

kind of getting to know, scouting almost the interview process as you'd scout running the 40. I think in some ways it's just as important. I think you're going to run the 40, how you're going to run the 40. I think that you can train your ass off to put lipstick on a pig in a situation like that, but it's still going to be,

you know, if you're a 4-8 guy, they're not going to have you running a 4-4. You might shave a 10th off. That might help you get drafted, but in these close races at the top of the draft, the tie goes to the guy that can interview well. I really do believe that. Would you have done anything differently?

Yeah. bombed middle of the first middle of the first decent team now that's that's funny but you wouldn't have

actually done that I don't know probably not would you probably could have throttled back to like a four nine I'm a big thing yeah just like yeah like I did in the pace car yesterday

we just talked to Nate in a second about but like I uh I might have took a little a little off the gas no I honestly if I could have done something differently

I wouldn't have run it's an interesting thing When you're getting ready to run your 40, and this is not a lie, I ran a 4-5-8 on AstroTurf in turf shoes, and I'm not talking about like the Puma-type really lightweight ones. I had like normal cross-training turf shoes on, like stuff that I would wear.

And so I was doing that up at Porese's, and I ran like a 4-5-8 laser. And so I thought to myself, like, if I can run a 4-5-8, this is going to be awesome. And they're like, you're going to run even faster, as they do with anybody, put on these really lightweight sprinter shoes. no socks nothing I don't run in lightweight narrow shoes like that's not a thing you feel

naked in those things I've worn insoles my whole career because I had flat feet that's a thing that like I probably might have done over was just wear some regular shoes I probably would have put some shorts on before I went out to run because I wore white tights and didn't think about the fact that like Johnson Johnson Chris Jones you know what I mean yeah so uh there were a few things maybe when it came to the interview process and the combine that I changed, but it's, it's tough. They're going to find you where they want you. It worked out. Love, love Edward Jones. Now, the green room is, is, is, it's a funny deal. It's a really funny deal. Everybody's sitting there super tense. You know, just even like, who do you invite is a tense thing. Yeah, I didn't know. I mean, I had a horse race.

That was in one of our dips and yeah, yeah. Did you turn me down? Did I know, no, no. I was at Foxfield. I would have turned you down. I almost, if I would have done it over, I would have gone to Foxfield. It's a horse race here. Uh, and honestly, leading up to the draft, you know me. I was like, I'm do it differently. I'm not like going to the draft. Like, who wants to be the guy sitting in the green room giving the NFL free footage? They should honestly pay the players. And maybe they do at this point to show up to the draft because I mean, like, I know they could sell it as like, this is romantic. This is great. B-roll. This is something that, uh, you're going to want the rest of your life. Like, that's what fucking camera phones are for. I don't need, you know,

footage of Roger Goodell and panning back to me staring at all my friends getting picked. Like there's no upside for kids. And I know that some people might not like me saying that, but I really might have just stayed home and done a Joe Thomas thing because that was originally the plan. I was talked out of it. Coors Light, baby. I had some Coors Light that night.

Had some Coors Light the night before. That's the hardest thing is being hung over during the draft because you better believe most people are going out the night before. I saw you wear sunglasses at Richmond. Get into that. I did wear sunglasses at Richmond. We're going to bring on Nate Collins here, Dr. Fax, for just a moment to talk about NASCAR yesterday. Megan's got to sell some real estate.

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1-800-889-9-9-7-89. Hey, hard right turn. Let's talk about NASCAR. Left turn, bro. Left turn. Let's talk about NASCAR, baby. A whole lot of left turns. Bro, I had so much fun.

That was... I just want to say this. We went to NASCAR yesterday with Wimbet. The way I got wrestling when we went to wrestling last week, and I was like, oh, yeah, yeah, this was about. I got NASCAR. Everybody I met at NASCAR, like, in the infield, drivers, pit crews. Shout out to Kip, the guy who coached me up on the pace car, because I drove

the pace car for people that don't know, right down to the firefighters in one of the pit crews that I met, to Nicole who showed us around, to the entire crew, to meeting Joe Gibbs. I got to meet Joe Gibbs. Like, everybody was so nice. I met the president of Darlington Raceway. Dude, he invited us down. Like, no problem. This is a really cool sport. Yeah, NASCAR fans are, NASCAR fans are different, But it's, to me, it's similar to, like, the rodeo crowd. Yeah. And it's more of, like, everyone's there to kind of have a good time. And you're more focused.

It's a competition, but you're more focused on the rider or, like, the person that you like or cheer for or a couple of guys. So it's not like a angry, like, Raiders crowd. No, it's not Raiders. Yeah, it's not Raiders. Or Niners. Niners, like that type of situation. Ricky Stenhouse, who's my, maybe my side driver. Martin Truex Jr.

My main driver, I'm wearing the hat right now. I got the merch. I made the decision on the fly. He's from New Jersey. I hear he's an Eagles fan. I also picked him. I boosted the odds on wind bet, and he damn near.

He was in first for a little bit, but Ricky Stenhouse Jr. He'll wreck people. And I need to root for a guy like that because he's like a wrestling heel. Supposed they don't even refer to him by his name. They just say like whatever his number is, which I haven't learned yet.

But Martin Truex Jr. is number 19. This is how cool my day was. I'm there to drive the pace car. But to sum it all up, when we were at the merch tents and you guys saw me, I was like, I'm walking to these different trucks. I'm like, who's going to be my guy? Who's going to be my guy? I'm making the sigil and spot.

I pick Martin True S. Jr. I get a FedEx die cast and that's Denny Hamlin who won the race. I give that to Luke and I give Wayland the Bass Pro Shops diecast of Martin Truex Jr. Then we're in this tent where, by the way, there's a ton of NASCAR drivers in there. They're just all floating around 30 minutes before the race in their uniforms. I was like bubble Wallace, you got a picture with bubble Wallace. I got a picture with bubble. And my man, Joe Lugano, that all my friends from back in Connecticut had to inform me that he is from Connecticut.

And so maybe I'll start ruling for him, hometown. You met those guys. They're like, imagine if somebody was going to a football game to see us play. They don't get that kind of access. These guys are not that relaxed before the game. I was the pace car driver. I'm walking out right before the NASCAR guys. Like I'm walking out of a smoke tunnel over a bridge.

Yeah, you did. Yo, by the way, by the way, I'm not going to lie. Scale the one to 10. Your red carpet was a little awkward. Oh, smooth. I would say it was in the sixth range. Really? Yeah, you were, you were trying to get out of there.

You were. Yeah, I don't play up. I don't play up who I am. I'm the pace car driver. I mean, but like, bro, you got to show, like. I'm the fucking pace car driver, dude. I'm the guy who's, I'm the honorary captain from, from some charity that they brought in, dude.

Like, literally, I'm the pace car driver. Anyways, before we came out that red carpet, we're in this tent, which was awesome. And in there are these guys walking around. I meet Joe Gibbs because we're football people and they wanted us to meet. Talk to Joe Gibbs. By the way, nicest guy in the world.

He's sharp, dude, and he's just not slowing down at all. He loves what he does. He, you know, he's involved with Toyota. I mean, Gibbs racing, all that stuff. Yeah, he owns one of the most successful teams in NASCAR history. Yeah, I mean, he's a legend in NASCAR and football and so I get a chance to meet him and as we're gabbing away I look up and Martin Turex Jr. is standing there with his hands on his hips in his fucking jumpsuit and I'm like

holy shit are you Martin Turex Jr? You're my favorite race car driver as of today and he's like that be me with a smile. I'm like aren't you a little bit of an Eagles fan? He's like yep and I'm like oh man this is so awesome I got your die cast the whole thing my kids are going to have it but that kind of access and that kind of person ability from everybody in NASCAR like the day of a big race like like the Toyota 400, the Toyota owner's 400 in Richmond, is a really cool thing. But I sat back and I thought about this. And because NASCAR is more of like a sponsor sport, like realistically, that's part of their job. Like yes, no, like anyone you meet like is a potential sponsor.

And if you're smart, you can't really stereotype and not engage with everyone, not knowing if someone's a potential sponsor or if someone wants to give money to your calls. Maybe I think I'm going to buy the next racing team. Maybe you and I going on a racing team. But look, what if that was, what if yesterday was the start of you really getting into it and eventually you do or your kids get into it? I'm so into it that you never say never, but we got to meet Daniel Suarez, who's from Mexico and which was really cool because it's one thing to meet a lot of these American racers.

you know, you're kind of like, you come up early in this stuff. You might have a connection. You might have somebody. There's a lot of families that race and that sort of thing. Daniel Suarez is like just getting out of the mud, you know, in Mexico. Like there's no, I asked him who was his most like helpful, you know, person. He's like, there's a few, but it's really hard. It's really hard to come into the sport, like not being an American.

And like when he was 18, he was just racing in the streets in Mexico. Like, I don't mean in the streets. I just mean like he was doing street races or he was doing like these different kinds of and so it's just so interesting. We went in his like his pick garage basically. It's like his locker room and these things are fucking outfitted

you know soup to nuts with everything these guys need and they're just sitting back there before the race is like in the infield right in the middle of the track there's a line of trailers and those are all they sit across from where these guys' bays are and by the way the garage bays

Kyle told me this and Kyle went with us who's not here today because he had a baby again. Shout out to Kyle. Big dad vibes. But also Kyle told me that when you win, like you get the closest bay and when you lose, when you're not doing as well, you get the furthest away bay. So like you got to walk past all the winners bay is like Blaney, who I'll talk to you about in a minute, who was like the number one in pole position had the closest bay.

I think, no, actually it's the guys who win the cup the year before. So it's like more of a cumulative thing. And on the road the next year, I think you get, you get that order in the garage bag. That's right. And this weekend you get to pick your pit stall based on that weekend's qualifying. And Kyle knows a shitload about NASCAR, but he didn't know to get out of the way of that one car.

No, he didn't. That's the funniest thing about Kyle was like, he's like a NASCAR expert. He's also, he'll talk to anybody. He'll talk to a stranger, like he'll just make friends with anybody. So half the time, you know, he's his heads over here. He's very excited. He's very excited.

He's at NASCAR. He's a legit NASCAR fan. And he's, you know, doing all this guys. You don't want to do this. You don't want to do that. And we're standing there in that row between the Daniel Suarez's, you know, kind of like pit locker. And then on the other side, like where the car sets, there's a line of asphalt that people use to walk. But there's also these race cars to get pushed through by the pit crews, you know, an hour or two before the race.

Kyle's sitting there just his head in the clouds. And I hear, watch out! There's like people yelling at Kyle. Kyle, Kyle had to move because he was the guy that broke the unwritten rule. Like he was the guy that stood in the wrong place. And man, he took that pretty well for a guy that was telling us the do's and don't of NASCAR the entire day. And then we were on Pitt Road.

And he was emulating the crew and jumping around, jumping over the wall and everything. And then a backup pace car pulled up behind him. Oh, no, he almost got hit by a pace car too. Yes. I think you were driving when it happened. No. Well, let's talk about that because... I think next time, if we do do a NASCAR event,

I think we have to try to see if the Greenlight crew if we can maybe get a pit time. Yeah. And then maybe that's something that they can, like, we can try to make a competition between podcasts. Actually, like, first, yeah, raw room, we'll call them out, bustling with the boys. We're going to do an Olympics with the raw room, guys.

There was a record yesterday, the fastest pit stop in history, of four-card pits up, Kyle Busch, It was Kyle Bush. How fast? It's like 11 seconds. I think it was under 10. I got checked. Yo.

He's insane. I took a picture of it. By the way, good job getting the free steak. You always make sure you get a free steak. Bro. Like, hey, listen. We walked right in this hospitality time. Nate was like clasping his hands just like, like bird man.

Hey, you have to, hey, when you're in a suite, you have to do things right so you don't look too crazy. So once I got up to the table, you have to read. which I think a lot of people don't do. They just kind of look at what the food is instead of reading the labels. And after reading the labels, I've seen that the sirloin steak was not out yet.

So instead of just diving in like everyone did, I opted to wait. And I probably got the two best pieces of the steak. Good for you. You always make sure you do. I thought that was great. And you got to ride in the pace car with me. The whole reason we were there was I was driving the pace car.

and you know like I never really understood pace cars I've watched NASCAR before like I'm not like totally ambivalent here like I've watched NASCAR yeah but I did not know that there was so much that went into that pace car thing and so until it's way tougher than doing the coin toss oh 1,000% I got to drive a car and until you did it standing with Matt on that landing and actually watching it unfold and seeing oh, you actually do need this pace car because at the end of the day, you have to have a chance for all these cars to get out at once.

And in my mind, I was like, oh, it wasn't until you started and you see it forming what's happening that I'm like, oh, he's going to be taking like a few laps because- This is like a crucial thing for them to start correctly. Like, I get in the car, Kipp's like, what do I got to know?

He's like, I'm going to tell you everything I need to know. This guy's wearing like, you know, basically a pit crew full jumpsuit, got the helmet, got the stuff in, and I'm just strapping a seat belt on. I got Kyle in the back seat, you know, we're making practice runs first thing when we get there. And I'm kind of nervous because you know you don't want to fuck it up. Dale Jr. told me in the interview the other day, wait until you look in the rear view and see all these guys. I think it's like 27,000 horsepower or something somebody was telling me behind me at once. It's like fucking rolling thunder. It's like, it's like days of thunder.

It's like elephants in your rearview mirror, dude. And I didn't get that until we went on the real run. When you're doing the pace car practice, you're learning to get to 40 miles an hour, just stay there, you realize that the track is pitch. So it's like walking up a hill. It's way more pronounced than on TV. And Richmond is a short track,

which tells you that the pitch isn't as much as like one of these speedways. They say if you go to one of these speedways, like walking up a big fucking pitched hill. The angle is just a, insane but that makes for a really fun ride it's unlike anything i've ever done before yes it's a toyota camry but it's a souped up Toyota camry you know first off that Toyota was the camry trd yeah can we can we can we get one of those camry can we can we get can we get a couple of those wrap them a couple of them i got to see what the price tag is in TRD makes them a little more

expensive but but bottom line I'm doing for free we were doing 60 around those curves yeah and that felt like being in a fighter jet or something because of the way you're pitched down and because you never take 60 mile per hour turns like go 60 on an on ramp and tell me how you feel. I don't know if you guys got to do it. I have a video but before we left we actually went

and stood down like right near where all the people in the yellow were near the fences and coming around turned one and two to feel that when they're going like 120, 1.30, unbelievable. Like you can kind of like taste rubber

in your mouth. Bro, there was a crash. I could smell it in the suite, like, through the wall. And, and, and, like, it's just insane. So to have all that responsibility behind you and to drive the pace car, when I drove the pace car in practice, I realized how much of a badass sport this is. These guys do 120 miles per hour going around these turns, and they're, like, 20 deep in some of these races.

Like somewhere like Martinsville, it's like a bunch of fucking cars close together. There's no margin for air. I'm trying to keep it steady. There's nobody on the track. So we get back. Everybody's like, oh, good job. Kip's like, you want to do a hot run? And I'm like, fuck yeah.

So then we really rip it. Yeah, I got in the car. Did you get, did you, I'm going to tell us, did you get dizzy at all? No, no. Yo, I wanted more. I wanted more. And so when I got out there and it was time to go, I felt prepared. I pulled off.

I get out in front of the cars. In fact, Blaney, the guy who on our Twitter was the number one in poll position, I said, hey, I heard Blaney might bump me. Fuck around and find out what I'm. gonna do Blaney is I'm gonna take the high road because I respect the sport I'm not gonna do anything to you I don't know if he saw that or not but he walked by me on uh in pit row right before the start of the match right the fucking race right before the race I'm thinking soccer I'm thinking blaney Blaney is like I'm gonna be on your shit or something like that like with a smile and I'm

like oh it's you you know because I didn't recognize him and I was like you better and so we get out there and I'm going and I look in the rear of the mirror and sure enough, you know, I said the Al Collings thing. I felt like Al Cowlings like driving that Bronco. Like it was like that, but race cars. And, uh, and, and, and it's just, it was just, it was just incredible. It was like primal, dude. The first lap, I'm like, this is fucking cool. Then Blaney bumps me, dude. He's like, Blaney's about to bump you. I look in the river mirror and Blaney's like, I don't even feel it. I'm like, when's he going to bump me? I'm like, bump me, Blaney. And he's like, he already did bump you. Like, they're so good at just like controlling these cars. He just tapped me with a

fucking racehorse, dude, not even feel it. And then, you know, they're swerving in the background. I'm like, they're doing that for me. They're fucking with me. Turns out they're just getting their tires broken. But it's all so fucking, it's primal, dude. By the end of it, um, there's a left turn you have to make. You're driving in a circle. I'm totally disoriented. I don't know. which lap I'm on. I don't know when the left turn is. I just told Kip, I said, I'm very literal. You need to tell me exactly when I need to turn left.

And no sooner and no later. You need to tell me not like, not like, not like navigation. It's like, the third light maker right. Exit on the left. And it's like this exit or the next exit. Yeah. Kip, like Kyle was in the back seat.

And I guess he felt like he was playing chicken with a train because Kyle's like getting ready to be like, turn left, Chris. And we get to the pit turn off. And Kip's like, left and I just rip it left and he did tell me that when you turn left the coolest fucking thing happens you're driving along and pit row and to the right out there on the track they just whizz by and it is on dude and when that happened I just couldn't help but let out a primal scream dude

that shit is like that shit is drugs dude that shit is drugs and and NASCAR is a sport there's some great GoPro video of that exact moment you coming to down pit road, everybody firing up their engines and you hollering, getting excited. Well, no, I mean, like, it was one of the highlights today. And I just said NASCAR is a sport. We know that. NASCAR drivers are athletes. Okay.

When they go out there to that fucking match, it's an athletic endeavor. I don't know if anybody disagrees with me. I'm happy to debate this, but I really do think if you're going to call certain athletes athletes, you got to call NASCAR drivers athletes, man. No disrespect to golf. Everybody's clamoring to watch that sport and those athletes, this is. weekend, you know, ping pong, shit like that. I'm not saying these are the bottom feeder sports, but these guys are controlling race cars going, you know, 200 miles an hour and they're losing,

you know, 10, 15 pounds in a race. They're pissing themselves so they can't get out of their car. My guy only has a monster energy drink called Morning Kipp, and he's driving the pace car, dude. These guys are controlling with their arms and their, their pecks and they're fucking the little muscles, the big muscles, these huge death machines, dude. You know what I think doesn't get talked about enough? What? Is the fact that there's no brake lights. And like, that's crazy.

There's no brake lights. And can you imagine driving without brake lights seeing the person? If you have bad debt perception, like to kind of have to feel out, hey, how fast I'm going and how much I need to let up and to see how close. the person behind me is because if I'm slamming on my brakes, they can't tell that. Ricky Stenhouse, you don't want to drive behind Ricky Stenhouse in the Sunny D car. No.

At the brakes, you know, that's the reputation there. But I never thought about that. It's just like, I was thinking about it there. Just like, yo, there's no brake lights. And like, it's probably subconscious to everyone who drives now that you pay attention to the person's brake lights in front of you or while you're driving so that you Don't like if you need to stop short or whatever my wife doesn't but totally there's a massive amount of trust involved between those drivers to like To like not to like not wreck each other drive within a half cars length and that's why they hate Stenhouse because they don't trust them

And that's what Dale talked about on Friday's episode. He talked about how now it makes sense a crazy man of trust you guys You guys are dealing with such powerful cars that they all trust each other out there NASCAR is like a really intense pickup game you got to know you're playing with is what it sounds like you got to know is this guy when I leave my feet gonna wreck me into the wall or you know like finish through on the layup like they did in that college basketball game this year I forget who did that but that was totally fucking classless yeah um and no doubt they're athletes but I was kind of shocked by how small some of them were no question no question they they are smaller guys uh but you think about it they got to fit in that fucking thing it's not like I don't think it's like jockey small but no and I saw him talking to

Kyle so the juxtaposition might be part of it By the way, Brad Kislauski looks like Macon. Yep. 100%. 100%. That's what Nate said. I mean, it was incredible. He looked just like him.

That's so funny. Okay, well, that was a lot of fun. Reed, Cowboy Reed had a sick, you know, Richard Petty jersey. A jacket. A jacket. Yeah, got it off the internet. It didn't fit me. And I was like, Reed, you got to have this.

Yeah, I'm messing people from the reselling fam. That's the guy. That was compliment Reed on his patches, his vintage. The funniest thing. Yeah, the funniest thing was. Vintage NASCAR patches. The funniest thing was seeing you in exchanges with the eBay community. Like, you just found, like, all the people that sell things online somehow.

Hey, and I did some research, and actually some guys have been talking to me on Twitter, and supposedly they said I should do some research on die cast because it's actually, there's some big money in it. DiCast are sick. I love it. I might get into that. I also want to shout out the guys, Chase and Dale from Garage Guys podcast. NASCAR gambling.

Yeah, people bet on NASCAR. And I might start doing that. Matt won some money yesterday. I want some money too. Look at that. That makes fucking two of us. End up winning $48. Can't complain?

Good shit, man. Everybody made some money. First, first NASCAR race? Yeah, dude. We're off to a great start. We're off to a great start. We also want to shout out Trenton, a big follower of the Greenlight podcast from a Ponsettoni, Pennsylvania.

Met a guy from Poxetani. Turns out. not to docksy, Trenton, that people in Poconite don't really fuck with the groundhog. They said there's a different one like every year. Like it's not even about the same groundhog. It's not even the same groundhog. I would get so annoyed like if I'm from a place and every time people hear that, they bring up, oh, groundhog.

Exactly. And I did it. I was like, who are you from? And there's this moment of silence where everybody's like, do you ask him about the groundhog or not? Like everybody from Poxetani probably has that conversation, which sucks as. And then they probably resent the people that come in once a year because they know one's kind of stupid. They're like,

the fucking Groundhog doesn't really know anything. It just stimulates our economy. They're basically, they're basically living in the Caribbean where people are like, fuck these people, dude. Like, you know, like,

but yeah, keep the bills paid. You know what I'm saying? Like, like same thing with Poxetani. Like, sure, I love when they come in every February.

A bunch of idiots. What are the thing's going to happen? Meteorologists can't predict the weather a day before. They think this groundhog You think about us And I know we were going to make Groundhog Day A National Holiday That fell through

I'd rather just roast Groundhog Day Makin's not here He doesn't listen to the podcast But if he catches wind of this This might not be good And you guys saw a former teammate Yesterday right Shout out to Perry Jones

Yeah we ran into Perry Jones And we ran into Aaron Brooks Virginia legend Virginia legend New Orleans Saints So you never know who you can see it Big shout out Chase Young Chase Young was there

Bro that guy is fucking huge Dude, he was in the tent. We didn't get a chance to talk to each other. I hit him up on Instagram, say like, hey, what's up, bro? I was looking for you. I couldn't catch you. I love the effort he plays the game with. He seems like a great kid.

He looks like a giant little dirt. I don't know who that is. People are no. But he's sitting that out today. He's actually way bigger than what I picture, just like watching him play and seeing him like on the field. That's what they say about this guy. Yeah.

And like, you know, like if you don't know, you might. of seeing a person one player in real life and you can like measure up in size people from like hey i've stood next to him before i can see like how big he is but for whatever reason i wanted to take a picture without he he kind of looks bigger without pads than with pad he does with pad if that makes if anyone can understand that very rarely is there somebody who looks bigger in pads and somebody out of pads like that looks bigger out of pads that looks bigger out of pads that Then he does. It's confusing.

We can't even say it. Yo, when I seen him and realize who it was, I was just like, whole. We were standing behind him. He's ahead above everybody else. He's up there in the front row in that tent. And his traps, dude, they start up here. And then they're like, they're like hills, like on the NASCAR track. Trap guy.

Bro, like, it wasn't until I saw Chase Young's traps. Was I like, yeah, I'm just totally washed. Like, I never had traps like that. But if you look at me, like the bottom of my. my neck you can draw a straight line to the outside of my shoulder and i actually work out i'm not gonna lie i remember you saying that and you were like you never had traps like but bailis had my trap yeah back in the day we had traps but i'm just saying chase young i wanted to take a picture with chase young because he's what he's what a top five defensive end looks like i feel like me taking pictures with a chase young

is the best thing for for my reputation as a scrappy talentless no but like how many years how many He's a head taller than me. He's a doorway wider than me. His traps start up there, come all the way down. I'm glad you did. This guy is muscles on muscles, dude. They're going to do that thing. They're going to say the progression.

Look, the top, a top, yeah, exactly, top 5DN from now. And it has, dude. Bro, it's exactly what it is. What's in the food? It's the food, man. I mean, I can take a picture next to Mario Williams, too. We didn't get the good GMO food when we were younger, No, you know who I took a picture next to that made me feel just like shitty?

It was Max Crosby, dude. Guys, like, it made me feel like a child, bro. He's just some big cats, dude. And I really wanted to get a chance to meet Chase Young. As I said before, like, I just like the effort that he plays with. I mean, he seems like a good kid. Fun player to watch. Fun player to watch, man.

Both as D-Line. Good D-Line. You know, like, I've talked about Montes-Swept being pretty awesome and not get enough credit. But Chase Young, I think he's going to have a bounce back here. As me being a former trial. hard guy. Not saying like he's try hard, but he's a guy like no matter what the score is. Like if he's on the field, he, if it's going to be on tape, I'm playing hard. And you can and you can always respect that. That is why I like him. We can have conversations about pass rush and all that stuff,

but I'm going to keep it as simple as possible. Chase Young plays his fucking ass off and he seems like a good kid. So, and they're going to need him to be a leader in Washington. Yeah, I think he's going to be a leader. I think he's going to, I think he's going to emerge like one of the premier players in the league. I think like you're saying, he's a kid that seems like he has a clean image. He plays hard. He plays the game well. And usually when that happens, the game gives back. And hopefully he's going to be one of those guys. Oh, fast pasta. Yeah. Our first favorite racer. Yes. Anthony Alfredo. We met Anthony Alfredo. He was down there. And he ran into me and Kyle on pit row. And we both tweet with Anthony and texting with him. So shout out.

to him now I feel like we got buddies in in the racing community and and the new coach for Virginia Tech was there Brent Pry yeah shook his hand and told him wah-hu-wah and then I saw him walk over to a baby that was asking for an autograph and he just punched it yeah I think I did see that he followed through with that punch yeah it was it was like the campaign yeah he might have did that but on purpose I think he did that hokey gobble after he did it yeah he did Hokey gobble stood over the baby. I mean, I think he, I saw him littering on the red carpet. He littered and he threw trash on the flag.

Yep. And then insulted all the high school football coaches in the state of Virginia. Told told us how stupid they are. He said that the tidewater area is really bad. He said tidewater and there's no talent down there. He also said NASCAR wasn't a sport. Yep. NASCAR's not a sport.

What else did Brent Price? No, honestly, I want to be serious because what I've learned the last week is that some people are really fucking stupid just in dealing with some of these two specific conversations, but Brent Pryor's a really nice guy, dude, and I've heard great things about him,

and I hope the rivalry's back to like, it's a rivalry again at some point. You know, it's going to take us winning some games, but it also takes having two really good coaches at the same time in Tony Elliott and Brent Pry, like two classy guys. I think this is going to be a lot of fun. No, it's cool, and I started to think about it.

I might in the future want to go to agricultural school. Yeah. So I might think about doing V-Tech. What do you want to grow? You know. Right. But not only that. Like I want to have a farm at some point, kind of like Rick Ross and get some animals and stuff.

Oh, and that's one more thing. Dynamite segue. Dynamite segue to Rick Ross. Rick Ross last week went on the full send podcast and said that he wants to climb Kilimanjaro. and you texted me and said, hey, check this out. So Rick Ross, I just want to tell you, dude,

if you want to get to the top of that mountain, I'm sure you could do without us, but we have a pretty good track record of getting football players up, mixed martial artists, veterans. I think that would be dope. Like, I think it'd be dope content.

I think it'd be for, like, you have a great cause that you do it for. And I think that... I know we're not famous enough to get Rick Ross on killing. On the show, he said that he's doing it.

Like, he doesn't have, he didn't say anything was behind it he said he just wants to do it and hey what like what what better way we'll bring the wing stop we'll bring the pairs everything fuck i'll help push you up to the top dude like i pushed halotinata up to the top like he was a ford ranger if you get tired we'll fucking we'll carry you up there dude we we want everybody to get to the top if they're physically able so rick ross i'm sure you'll crush it with or without us but uh if you want to go with a bunch of football players uh i bet you we get this done easy shout out to rick ross

Hey, definitely come climb the mountain with the water boys. And if I could kiss up for a second, I think Rick Ross is the best curator of great production. He picks the best stuff. And he's one of the best rappers of all time, definitely in our generation. And you know what's exciting? He's starting to, I think at some point in my life,

if it keeps going, I want to go down and check it out. He's starting his own car show. And I think it's coming up soon. And it seems like it's going to be a big deal. Like everything. Yeah. I think he was just promoting. He has like an old school fire truck and he has all type of cars.

So he's got. Shout out to him. Garage space down there. Everything. I'm telling you, man, you come back from Kelly. You might be like, I don't need this house, bro. Like it's spiritual experience, bro. You might change your whole, your whole deal.

All right. So that was it. Got a lot done today. We will be back Friday. I think we got a pretty special guest. Hold on. For tonight. Who you got tonight?

Oh, I already said I got rock chalk. Jayhawk. How about you? That's what I had. Shut out. That was my pick from the start. That was my pick. Hey, congratulations on Duke losing. You don't have to get a Duke tattoo.

Oh, man. So we're all in the clear. All that, nobody made any money. Nobody, in fact, the only person that would have made money is me. I rolled UNC on the money side. Yeah, no. Sorry, everyone that was hoping. You got something for you.

Okay, cool. That would be consolation. Sorry, sorry for everyone that was hoping on the tattoo. Better yet. wasn't. Yeah. I certainly wasn't. I don't think anybody in this room was hoping you had to get attached to it.

And if we're doing that again in the future. More money if we're doing it again. For one, more money and during the draft in all events, all parties need to be present because I don't like, I didn't like the blind just showing up and being like Duke was pulled for me. It worked out. Bro, I promise you,

I did not want to root for Duke to win. So if you think it's something that I wanted to have happened, there's video footage of us just fucking rolling that that bingo machine and pulling duke out for you dude i'm sorry i went down that way next year i hope you get somebody you like oh it was great watching them lose too by the way uh wasn't it i think watching gonzagaluz was like the biggest sweat of my entire life i mean that would have been a pretty easy tattoo get a german shepherd yeah but i don't have any tattoos mark few and german and a german shepherd in the front seat 10 and 2

you know like I'm driving the pace car or Adam Morrison's mustache I'm going to let you go with the sounds from Nate Collins TikTok Oh no you did not do that How fast do you think they are going? Yo, that was cool being right there I can't take me back

Joe Gibbs put me in a car y'all take care