Green Light with Chris Long - Kenny Pickett! Steelers, Hand Size & Air Forces 1s. Montana Updates, Kadarius Toney & Best College Football HC'ing Rumors

Episode Date: July 13, 2023

(2:17) - Updates from Montana: Girl Dad Life, Monster Trucks and Hardships of Life on the Lake (49:45) - Kenny Pickett talks Preparing for his Second NFL Season, Hand Size and Gloves, Impact of the Manning Passing Academy, Playing for Mike Tomlin and an Untold Layer of the Black Air Force Ones in the Steelers Locker Room (1:21:20) - Pat Fitzgerald and the Northwestern Football Situation (1:43:55) - Reddit Thread on Rumors About College Football Head Coaches (1:54:19) - NFL News: Quarterback Netflix Series, Kadarius Toney and Future of the New England Patriots This podcast is brought to you by Cash App. With multiple tools for saving, spending, and sending, Cash App is the easy way to stay in control of your money. Cash App is a financial platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Green Light's Top 10 Songs Playlist https://open.spotify.com/playlist/2jDt1UuSEstZ4gvEGxZX4R?si=64b0cc26608c477c Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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to feel comfortable in the second half of the year, why he wants to emulate Peyton Manning and the impact the Manning Passing Academy has had on his life. He also tells a wild story about the Air Force One that the team was gifted from Mike Tomlin. We've got a wild Chris checking in from Montana, new father of three. He talks about going monster trucking, all the great things that have happened up there, all the bad luck things that might have come down the way. But all in all, he is having a good time. We also talk about everything in the sports world going on right now. Pat Fitzgerald and Northwestern, a college football rumors Reddit thread that we found highly entertaining. And then we go through some NFL news.

We talked the quarterback Netflix show. We talked the New England Patriots and it's Bill Belichick on the hot seat. And we talk Cadarius Tony with Chris dropping a little rhymes at the end of the show. So y'all please enjoy that. And we'll catch you Tuesday. So while I was gone, Young can ban porn, huh? Yeah, you can no longer go to Pornhubin for Jim. And I just wanted to see who actually has been trying to look at porn.

So, Matt, you're horny. What's the deal, man? They're putting fucking, you've got to upload your ID to look at porn in Virginia now? No, you can't even do it because, like, the Virginia legislature passed a law saying that all sites have to do age verification. And porn hubs like, fuck that. We're not doing that. So you can't use our site. What about X and XXX?

I'm not familiar with that particular platform. There am I, but somebody told me about it. So there are options. I'll have to talk to that somebody. Okay. It's good to hear. The rumors of pornography's demise have been greatly exaggerated in the Commonwealth State. Is that really the biggest news that's happened on your vacation?

No, no. I just wanted to check in. That was my way of checking in. So, yeah, this feels good. We're back at it. There's a lot of catching up to do, man. How long has it been since I podcasted in real time? Like three weeks, four weeks, right?

Because we did a couple of movie reviews. And people have been liking the movie reviews and all that. Really like, we've got another one coming, so everyone get excited for some golf movies. Tin Cup, man. Love Tin Cup. Went back and watched it. You guys will catch that.

I think next week. I've been dressing like Kevin Costner and Tin Cup. I told you all I was going to do it. I brought, you know, like linen pants. some button down short sleeve shirts some a shirts and i've just been walking around like uh like tin cup what's his name again in the movie roy mackaboy and yeah i think i think you got to montana you arrived in montana and your profile picture uh changed like that i think you literally landed i don't think people get it so i'm gonna have to do another shoot but yeah that's next week

y'all check out the tin cup review we had facts in the king earlier this week uh we are launching our very first show outside of Greenlight. And I think that's exciting. Like when I started this, I always wanted to have more shows associated with what we do. Like taking people behind the curtain, when I started this thing before Making came in and said,

hey, I think you need a co-host. It was just me. And it's really hard to podcast alone. You know, over time, I said, I want more people in the chairs. I want a community. I want more podcasts. So we are going to take a swing at this thing. Give Fax and the King a chance. Dr. Fax and Bo Allen, the Butter King. They're going to be, what, once a week?

Yep, starting July 19th. So, yeah, the dudes are getting rolling. And I think they got great chemistry. So check that out. We also have another show in the works with a former teammate of mine that I don't think I can spill the beans on just yet. No, but I can tell you it's incredible. You saw the first episode? Yeah, I've been involved a little bit. It's great. Okay, good to hear you're working and not just look at the board.

Humble brag there. I work while you're gone. So, yeah, there's been a lot of, and honestly, like, this is a weird job for me. You guys know me off Mike. I think I'm probably pretty similar to the way I am on Mike, but I don't like talking all day. When I'm in the studio, I like to chill out. I don't like to hear myself talk.

In fact, I hate editing podcasts and hearing myself talk because I sound like a fucking idiot. And I hate myself and all that stuff. And it's only gotten worse since I started podcasting. So, you know, when you get a month off, some funny thoughts creep into your head. You're like, do I need to be doing this? I do this every summer when I get up to my podcasting. Montana. My life gets simple. I sit by the lake. I don't have to do this. And I wonder, like, I could be living one of two lives right now. I could be living an unplug life, which I fantasize

about all the time. Deleting my Twitter, I threaten to do it every week in the group text, and you all remind me that we're going to be, we're not going to be able to pay the bills if we don't have social media. Sometimes I think about going off the grid, homeschooling my kids, like, I don't know, getting fucking capable with household tools and just kind of having a homestead situation. That life sounds really good, but

I'm back at it. I'm on mic and let's give this thing a go. I kind of consider this part of the year where we strap into the roller coaster and shit speeds up very fast here soon. So like before you know it, Nolan and I are doing all our team reviews right now. We've been going through the AFC East, the AFC North.

I'm going division by division. Every player on the roster, cap space, the whole thing. It's got me excited about football. And we know that freight train is coming. I can hear it in the distance, and we are going to be in the bunker, all of us. So I'm happy to be back. The break was good. I haven't gone off the grid completely.

I'll give it a go. So here are the best things that happened to me since I stopped podcasting. I got a list for you guys, okay? Number one, well, not number one. I'll start from, because, you know, there's a kid, so that's probably got to be number one. But number one.

I'd like to beat Macon on this pod and congratulate you and your lovely wife, Meg, first for your newborn child. Thank you. To be safe, I want to congratulate my wife as well. and wish June a very happy first week, because that's coming up here this Friday. But we'll get to that. Probably my favorite little thing that happened to me over the break is I always knew I was Netflix material, and I finally made Netflix.

So my boy Tom Segura put me in the intro to his new Netflix special, Sledgehammer, which debuted like last week. And, you know, I want to help other people in the industry out who, you know, maybe have a hard time selling their content, getting eyes on their content. So Tom Segura, Sledgehammer, it's on Netflix. If you have Netflix, you can check that out. He's a comedian. But there's a picture of me and him after one of his shows in Charlottesville.

And that, of course, was his show where he met the heckler from hell. I mean, this guy was having a full conversation with Tom for about 10 minutes during the show. the security guards wouldn't physically move him out of the theater. Tom had never seen anything like it. He told me after the show, him and Jeff Tate, who's a great guy as well, they were like, we have never had a show like that. And that's what happens when you come to Charlottesville, Virginia. But I snuck out that day.

It was a Sunday. We were all in our bunkers watching football, getting ready for the show. I said I got to see my boy. And I was Stony-Baloney at that show. I mean, I ate all the edibles in the office, went over, walked across the street and watched Tom. And the picture is the aftermath of that show. So happy to make Netflix. I knew I was Netflix material.

And Tom, I'm hoping some people will check out Sledgehammer. Hopefully this helps. Also, discovered the eyebrow trimmer. Didn't know that there was an eyebrow trimmer on my personal grooming kit. 38 years. I've been walking around like big eyebrow. guy. I don't know if you guys noticed it and didn't say anything to me, but I have never shaved my eyebrows in my entire life, and I'm at the age. Not even a trim? Well, you know, like,

you go to the barber every once in a while. You know, your wife, if she's like my wife, enjoys inflicting pain on me and pulling my long gray hairs out of my eyebrows. When I brought home the trimmer with the attachment, she said, oh, don't do that. That's not going to work well. Five seconds later, I look like fucking, I don't know, Matt Damon. I look terrific. My eyebrows are perfectly manicured. And what I realize is I've accomplished a lot over 38 years with big eyebrows.

It's all downhill from here. This podcast is going to improve. My outlook on life is going to improve. My wife's going to have to be beating the young women off of me when we get home. There's no women in Montana, so nothing to worry about out here. It's just guys. But I got, do you guys see this shit? It looks clean. Yeah, it looks clean. Now, you have had bushy eyebrows. I never really thought about it until this like thing that you've been talking about now, but you do it. You did in the past have very like voluminous eyebrows. Yeah. And nice

euphemism for like fucking having a caterpillar above both eyes. But like, like, I look at Jason Kelsey now and I'm like, maybe I need to send him a care package. You know, this is a realization that I'm very thankful that I made. So that's something that happened over the last week. Also, I went to a wedding. I hadn't been to a wedding in a while. I have a buddy who will go unnamed, who's 37 years old. And I was starting to wonder if it was going to be my seven-year-old Whalen or my unnamed buddy

that was going to get married first. And the thing about getting married when you're young is you kind of, you're part of the pack. There's a bunch of guys in their 20s getting married, that sort of thing. And then there's a couple stragglers in your group of friends that's always going to wait until the last minute. And weddings are a lot of fun in your 20s. They're not as fun in your 30s. So when your boy gets married at 37, you're like, man, fuck, a wedding. But this was a lot of fun.

It was in South Carolina. it was about 200 degrees outside. I was sweating through my linen suit. It was black tie optional. I kind of got a little ribbing because I wore a blue linen suit. A lot of people wearing a black tie kind of set up. I don't know if that's a code break.

You guys get an invitation for a black tie optional wedding. Are you going in black tie? Are you doing your own thing? Always do the own thing. Always do your own thing. You got to stand out a little bit. A little fresh. Plus everybody's wearing a black tie.

tie you don't want to be like everybody else yeah you won't be like everybody else and all those other people all those other people that were probably mad that you don't wear a black tie they were like oh I wish they were mad that they didn't step out and do well I was still sweating through my linen suit it was that hot bugs were biting me through the linen suit I feel like I was stationed at like you know for brag or something it was crazy man like the heat in south Carolina is a real thing and it was one of those things I don't remember if I said this before the but I wasn't sure if I was in the wedding until, you know, two days before the wedding. Because it's one of my best friends, I kind of felt like, hey, yeah, I probably deserved to be a groomsman,

but I can't remember. You know, like, dudes will call you and ask you to be their best man and you kind of forget it like six months later. The weddings, it takes so long, you know, you. So how do you ask this question a few days before the wedding? So that was the thing. I had to have a good way to get the information. I hit up one of my boys. I said, hey, who I figured.

was a groomsman if there were groomsman i said what are you wearing to the wedding you know and to that he would have probably said hey you're supposed to go to men's warehouse like a month ago the weddings in 72 hours he was like where i'm wearing something funky wear whatever you want the whole thing uh i kind of figured it out that way got to the rehearsal dinner i was seated at the head of the table thank you very much um i did give a toast uh you know when you're not a groomsman And this was kind of a large kind of setup for a rehearsal dinner. I think there were like 80 people in there. So like, you know, do I talk?

None of the buddies have gotten up and talked. I was in good enough shape to talk. And I felt really good when one of the guys before me in the, in the, in the, in the, in the bride's family, got up and gave a toast. And this is three days after the Titanic submarine imploded. And I think the line went something like, you know, know if i was locked in a metal tube with you know five six people i'd want it to be us and when when home boy dropped that line i knew i was it was smooth sailing because i was pressures off yeah you know

i got a little emotional he is one of my best friends so um i loved it it was a lot of fun so congratulations to my friend who i'm not going to name actually fuck it i'll name him tom and he married a gal named Melly, who's awesome, and Mellie's dad is Biff Pogi. Some of you all might know Biff Pogi because he's on one of these football TV shows. He's a great coach. He coaches at UNC Charlotte, and Biff used to be Harbaugh's right-hand guy in Michigan. He's also like a Baltimore high school coach legend. Your favorite coach knows Biff Pogi.

And I guess when he went down to Charlotte, he had about his entire team. follow him down there. So watch out for UNC Charlotte. Me and the boys might be headed down there for a road trip. This year we got the invite so we can go down to UNC Charlotte, enjoy some college football. Also went to a monster truck race with the boys. You know, this was like the day after June was born. You know, it's hard on kids when a new baby comes into the family. And so this was kind of like the push present for my little kids. We went Wayland and Luke 7 and 4 went to the Mission Valley Super Oval here in Poulson, Montana. We have been to monster truck shows, but the thing about a monster truck show in rural America

is it's better. It's outside. They have junk truck racing. So like local drivers, they hop in their tow trucks, they hop in their little off-road vehicles, and they go tear them up. You know, I saw a guy in an F-150 jump a bus. And I got to be honest with you guys. My bucket list isn't that long, but I do want to drive a truck over that bus at the Mission Valley Super Oval. Next summer, I have a year.

You know, like I got the pumpkin float on the list, which is coming up. We've got some good meetings on that. We've got some of the best and brightest of Virginia, identifying a stretch of the James River that I can float in this giant pumpkin. We've got a pumpkin grower, the whole thing. That's going to be coming this fall.

but I also want to jump a school bus in an F-150 next summer in Montana. So I need to get in touch with the people at the Mission Valley, Cooper Oval, and talk to them about that. I also, at the end of the race, really cool, they didn't have this at John Paul Jones Arena in Charlottesville. At the end of the race, I'm sitting there, and I hear the guy, the monster truck announcer, which, like, Monster Truck announcer is kind of like state TV.

They kind of do a whole, like, military thing. They do fire, they do police, they do like Coast Guard. You know, you pledge of allegiance to the flag. Like at the end of the monster truck race, I hear the guy talking. And he's saying something about if you buy a ticket, you can ride a real monster truck. So I fucking beeline over there to this line that's forming, $10 a head. We grab these tickets. We hop up in this monster truck, which is called the impersonator or identity theft,

which makes a lot of sense because they ripped off grave digger. It looks just like your grave digger. But you could hop on this truck and ride for about two, three minutes. And when I tell you, you know, like Father's Day, I talked about making memories and, you know, like your kids kind of playing those back their entire lives, this was one of the best memories my kids have ever made where I've made for them. It was a lot of fun.

And I got video on Instagram to prove it. So check that out. But the number one thing that I did, while everybody was gone, while I was on vacation, was I had a baby. Well, I didn't have a baby. Meg had a baby. I got to be careful with that language. I didn't have anything to do with it.

You know, like, it's interesting. I waited a long time. Meg and I waited a long time to have a kid, to have our first kid, Waylon. Seven years ago, I'm kind of at the end of my career. I've told this story before, 2016. I'm in the hospital. Getting ready to have our first kid. I just got cut by the Rams.

I'm a free agent for the first time of my eight-year career. And I'm thinking about retiring. I'm thinking about quitting. And I can remember being in Harris Teeter. Actually, first at the hospital. And my old D-line coach, Brendan Daly calls me. I step out of the room. And he's like, hey, would you have any interest if Bill,

because he's coaching with the Patriots now, would be interested in bringing you on? And I said, of course, I'd have interests. Like, you kind of have Chandler Jones, you've got Rob Ninkovich, you've got Jabal Sheard, you got Trey Flowers. Like, I don't see a role for me, but of course, if Bill Belichick call it, I'd fucking answer the phone. So a day later, I'm in Harris Teter. I'm getting a six pack of beer, some baby gear, and my phone rings in Harris Teeter.

And so immediately I'm rushing in my car, breaking the speed limit to get the front of the Harris Teeter where there's service, and it's a Massachusetts number. and it's Bill Belichick. And I stop in the middle of the store, talk to him for five minutes. You know, it's kind of like a dance. I'm just sitting there and I'm like, you know,

I don't want to ask the greatest coach of all time if he has a role ready for me, but he was like, listen, I don't know what your role is going to be yet, but I love watching you play football and we're going to find a role for you. And that's all I needed to hear. And it timed up well.

Wayland got to see as a toddler, a couple Super Bowls. As a baby, he got to see the New England one. He got to see the Philadelphia Super Bowl. Some of the most special moments in my life, and I think we timed it up just right. Luke was born the day after we beat the Giants. Meg was in the stadium, 2019 my last year. She was up in the luxury suite being boozy and pregnant. And I'll never forget.

I got a sack on Eli Manning. That's how long ago I played. And I looked up in the suite, pointed to my wife, and the next morning, the baby came. And, you know, it was fun to have those moments while I was still playing, but know that I didn't have 10 years ahead of me to be kind of not present. I can always remember my dad saying, you know, listen, I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry I wasn't present enough for you. in your life. You know, when you're a pro football player, it's really hard to be anything but a pro football player. When you get home from work, you're still embroiled in it. That mistake you made today, it's in your head. You might be in a bad mood. You have a hard time taking. I used to sit in my car when I got home in St. Louis for 15 minutes in the parking garage. I'd set a timer and sit there for 15 minutes and try to let the, you know, like whatever it was, the bad vibes. They were never good vibes. They were never good vibes. in St. Louis kind of wash over me before I went upstairs and I didn't want to do that for long.

And so being retired, we kind of took a break. Two boys sounded good. They're like best buddies, the whole thing. We wondered if seven was too big a gap between the oldest kid and a newborn. And nine months later, we've got our third child. Finally, a girl. I can wear the girl dad gear. balancing out our family. I'm from a family of three boys. I can remember when Kyle first found out he was having a girl. I said, Kyle, this is the greatest news in the world. He goes, what do you mean?

I go, you're having a girl. He goes, what the fuck does that mean? I said, exactly. You need a girl. You need to soften up a little bit, buddy. And I kind of wondered in the back of my head if I'd ever have the same opportunity. and now here it is.

So I'm so thankful. I'm really thankful for the people at St. Joseph's Hospital here in Poulson, Montana. You know, when your wife says, you know, we've been going out to Montana my entire life since 1991. So I was six years old. And, you know, when I was a kid, I stayed out here two months out of the summer. I can remember my dad hitting a lev sled in the front yard by the lake, you know, watching him, you know, hit a lot of the summer.

leverage sled, worked the sled up and down. I watched him kind of put in the work here and through my whole career. I've done that. You know, I'd be up here for six, seven weeks of the year, training my ass off alone. And in retirement, I like staying up here a long time, too. And so when Meg got the due date, and it's July 7, she was like, oh, that's smack in the middle of Montana time. And she knows how special that is to me and the family. And it's special to her, too. So kudos to her for being like, I want to deliver a baby in Montana. And I not know what that was going to be like. I didn't know if it was going to be like a covered wagon situation, like a water bird, something like that. It was the greatest experience ever. Those

people at St. Joseph's are awesome. Shout out to Dr. Bagnell. Actually, the night before, a couple nights before, I was like, I got plenty of time before the due day. We're straight here. I've got it all map quested out. My mom's here. She can drive to the hospital, the whole thing. Meg's stomach starts getting tight. And I'm like, oh, fuck me. It turns out that night, the hospital was overloaded with babies. It was a baby overload. It was like a flood of babies. And the thing with that night was there was a blood moon. And supposedly when there's a blood moon, like women just go into labor. So I was really thankful Meg didn't go into labor that night because there were going to be no more beds left.

Evidently, it's the real thing. It was a great experience, though. It came right on time, woke up at 6th in the morning. I felt like it was a training camp alarm clock going off. You know, like when you're getting ready to have a kid, this kind of dark, it's the best thing in the world, right? Like you're so, you're so thankful. It's a, you know, the third time around with Meg, it's not as special.

It's not as, you know, romantic. you don't talk to the baby. Like I remember Waylon's, when Waylon was in Meg's belly, I used to play music, hold it up to the belly, he used to talk to the belly, tell stories to the belly. You know, the third, I'm like, can you move that thing out of the way? You know, and she's like, let's just get this baby out. You know, that's kind of the attitude.

You know, when you're doing a geriatric pregnancy, the magic is not there, the same as it is the first time. But for a guy that's afraid of change me personally, like I like consistency. I like doing the same thing. I like things the way they are. I love my little family. You know, when you have a family of four, it's so neat. You know, it's symmetrical.

The boys have a friend. The whole thing. I can remember when whaling came along, it's the best thing in the world. Then when Luke comes along, it's the best thing in the world. But you're so sad for your first son. You know, you're like, we just had this little family, and we had all these special moments just us. And all of a sudden, like, you wake up one morning, you put your kid to bed the night before, and it's the last time you tuck him in with nobody else in the room or across the hall.

And it's a weird feeling. It's like there's a certain sadness with it. But then the kid comes and you forget about all that. And that's how it went with Luke. And it was the same thing with June. and, you know, I was so worried. It was like this dark cloud was hanging over our heads. We're in Montana.

It's, you know, like the covered wagon berth, the whole thing. Are we going to be able to do this? Are we going to be able to stick the landing? The night before you're giving, like, your kids a last meal. Like Luke requested halibut. I got a fucking four-year-old on the back porch. And you're just, everything's so bittersweet. but the kids have done great with it.

And honestly, they haven't even noticed. They get a lot of time with Grandma and Papa. And actually, we're staying over at their house right now. My dad and my mom have taken us in. As soon as the baby came home, there was a 24-hour streak of bad luck. And I was like, God, I hope it doesn't go 48. I hope this isn't like a sign of times to come. But as soon as we got home, I shit you not.

somebody goes to flush the toilet toilet's not flushing okay somebody goes to flush the other toilet toilet toilet's not flushing so i go get like a boatload of drano i'm like i'm gonna fix this my inlaws are in town i got to be handy the whole thing because if i'm gonna live off the grid ever i got to know how to like use draino and shit so i drain oh all the fucking toilets i drain oh the bathtub because the bathtub's backing up we do a simultaneous flush water starts coming up in the bath tub of little specs in it. You know, it looks like poop, but in my professional opinion, it's sediment. It's a disaster, though. We, you know, we live in an 1,100 square foot house in Montana, which I love. I love living in a small house. I love less things to worry about,

but when the plumbing goes out, you're fucked. Now, June's okay, because she's, she shits in a receptacle, you know, she's got a diaper, but everybody else in the house, you know, we're fucked. The kids are pissing off the back porch. We got to get creative with the poop. I have a shop down the hill. It's about 100 yards down the hill. And that night we're going to stick it out. The kids have already moved their bowels.

We've read their bedtime stories like, you know, unless they got to wake up in the middle of the night, like, we're good. But, you know, I'm a little backed up. And I start feeling like I got to pinch a loaf at 11 o'clock. So I walk 100, actually. I take the mule down. It's a diesel. I take it down the hill about 100 yards, and I pop down to my shop, and I go in there,

and I start to pinch off the most heavenly loaf. And about mid-push, I realize I don't have any toilet paper. Like, there's no toilet paper in the entire bathroom. It's new construction, the whole thing. I decide, fuck it. I got to keep on going. I'll worry about it later. About 10 minutes later, I look around, there's some manuals, there's like paper.

I'm considering, like, you know, like printer paper. I'm considering, like, my shorts, like, the whole thing. We've all been in these situations. And if it's TMI, just hit the 30 second scroll button. But I realize I got to walk back up this hill. And when I tell you, it was like the biggest walk of shame in the dark. You know, and there's predators here. imagine I get lunched by a fucking cougar and I got mud butt and I'm waddling up the hill like a duck

it took me five minutes to get back up to the house you get up back back up to the house like what do you wipe with where do you put the toilet paper it's a whole process so needless to say as soon as I got home with the baby shit hit the fan we go to bed that night 2 a.m. I wake up to my wife opening the door do you hear that? I don't hear anything. The edibles are working. Shout out to Dayton and alternative relief here in Pulse in Montana. My wife alerts me that the smoke alarm is going off. So the whole house is just blaring. The baby somehow is asleep. The kids are asleep. The smoke alarm started upstairs. So I'm good. Like I'm vindicated because if you remember the story, the first time I set the smoke alarm off vaping at my old house, the fire truck came. And I'm sitting at the top of the

stairs stone out of my mind. And the kids are down there like, Dad, the fire truck's here. I'm like, I know I sent them. Um, you know, like this was a little bit different. I wasn't on the hook for this. But needless to say, things going off, I can't turn the fucking thing off. It's 20 minutes of fiddling with this thing. I lay back down to go to sleep. I have tinnitus in both my ears for an hour and a half so lost all this sleep um the bad luck has just been continuing the the fucking lake dropped by a foot and a half so i can't get my boat off the boat lift i got to move the boat lift i took the boat out to dinner scratched up the skeg you guys might not know what that is but it's the um it's the very bottom of my honda motor below the prop so we're okay but you know like it's i go down to my

beach there's a snake nest i had to pick a snake up read i had to put it in a box i moved it across the the street come back down there's three more swimming in the fucking water so like we have had bad luck and i you know like i it just to the point where it's like a it's like a curbier enthusiasm episode my parents take me when we get to the house my dad's got this shiny g wagon it's beautiful well-built machine beautiful gray truck uh um In fact, I'm going to paint my truck that color gray when I get home. But, you know, my wife's walking by like, Howie, did you just get this? And he's like, yeah, it's beautiful.

Go take a look. And I'm like, no, don't take a look. Stay away from G-wagon. You know, like, I hear that heavy-ass, expensive door slamming. And this motherfucker's got the nerve to say to my wife, you just had your third kid. You deserve a push present. Okay, so, you know, like, that's a pretty expensive push present, dad, and no need to put me on the hot seat when it comes to German engineering.

I mean, like, I can't afford that right now. Okay? I got all types of problems. The plumbing's out. I got to move the boat lift. I got to, it's $1.000 to remove the snake's nest, dude. You know, like, I'm thinking about cutting costs and just going bare grills in there. So just get a pellet gun

Huh? Just get a pellet gun Pop pop pop pop I'm sure the boys Would love to learn How to shoot some pellet guns So I do have a pellet gun I have a pellet gun for the deer

So I bought a pellet gun for the deer Because we can't deer fence our place It's really rocky Deer can get in no matter what And every night I go out there To smoke a joint And Bambi's just munch in our fucking Our expensive

Landscaping And so I go to the local Murdox And I grab a a pellet gun and bring it home and I'm getting ready to light these suckers up, I do some target practices. I realize this pellet gun's like a fucking, it's like almost like a 22 now. So then I go back and get a slingshot. There you go. I'll say this about the slingshot, not really efficient.

Most times by the time I can get that thing loaded up, the deer's out of there. But, and don't judge me, I have hit two of them. And most times they just gallop off and then stop and eat a bush. around the front of the house. So I do have a pellet gun. I have a slingshot, but I think we're going to go with the snake removal professionals, man. Like some money is money well spent. What you should do is just let's get a pile of rocks on your back porch patio. And then you can practice throw in for softball. You can practice your target practice. I feel like that's and it's fair. Do you see that kid get hit with the ball in the outfield in the head? I did. Got peg right in the out there, Matt. You just got back? It was nice of them to let me out there. Somebody said,

hey, they shouldn't have these kids out there catching these balls. Exhibit A. I'm like, Exhibit A, they should have these kids out there catching these balls. They got to practice. Exactly. If that was a kid in 1987, he's catching that line drive. Kids these days, they're unathletic. It would be fun with drunk adults, because at least if they get hit and hurt a little bit, you could laugh. Ooh, I love that. Right. So, yeah, I mean, like childbirth, monster truck, wedding, Netflix, eyebrows.

Yeah, there's been a lot going on. In fact, I just want to add this. Like, do you all like the name June? It's actually Juniper is the full name, which is kind of a hippie name, I guess. And I think that came down to the fact that I love the name June, but my wife didn't want to let me just name the baby. So she was like, we'll call her Juniper. And so, of course, I don't know if there's a code break, but I introduce it to the world on Instagram by June. Do you like the name?

It's beautiful. Juniper born in July. I like the nickname, I like the nickname Junie. Yeah, Junie, Junebug, Moon June. June's great. Nicknames, man. Moon June. Yeah, and I remember when I first told a few people about the naming kind of deal, like Macon was over.

at the house that the day he did that notebook thing uh you remember that no book thing okay one day maybe he'll talk about the notebook thing on the podcast but he won't talk about the notebook thing uh think super bad um okay so anyways Macon's over at the house he's got his work notebook we're talking about selling our house he's like hey you got any names for the baby yet and you know with the baby names, you got to be pretty protective. Like, people will take your name straight up. And I'm not saying my boy took my name, but we like the name Margo the last four years. If we ever had a girl

was going to go Margo or Florence or something like that. Come to find out a good buddy of mine has a baby two years ago. He named his baby Margo. Okay. So, like, can't do that anymore. Process of elimination. Also the fact that, like, I said this. You don't want to name your your daughter like a hot girl name like you just don't okay like your daughter could end up being hot as part of the deal but like you don't want to invite it you know like margot to me is like a hot party girl name it's also a name of margot robbie okay and like so every time i

hear margot i think of like smoke show margot robbie like i don't need that um naming a girl is harder than naming a boy uh and so i settled on the name june I love the name June. A lot of people are like, oh, you're doing the country music thing. You have Waylon. Is this June? Like June Carter? No, I just love the month of June.

And I know the baby was due in July. And so my wife's like, all OCD. And she's like, you can't name a baby named in July, June. I'm like, fuck, dude. Like, this is just one calendar. Chinese have a whole other deal. And it's kind of cool. It's cute.

Like I'm June born in July. Long story short. we give make in the short list and you know we tell him that June's probably the frontrunner he's like that's my frontrunner too he goes I'm actually thinking about naming my baby June I said well you're not going to be able to do that because our baby's coming first and everybody's going to know it if you name your baby June I will embarrass you the whole thing the other day he texted me after the baby was born and I said you didn't see the baby pictures he was like how's Meg doing?

Did the baby come yet? I'm like, you didn't see the baby pictures? Because as soon as it happened, I hit every group text I'm in full of guys. Guys love sharing baby pictures and that sort of thing. Your group text. D-line group texts with the boys from St. Louis. My stick to sports group text. You guys.

I'm like making. Which we immediately started betting on the over under of the weight. You did. Nate was way over. He was like, you can tell he's definitely not a dad yet. But like, I'm like, Makin, you saw the pictures. He's like, no, I'm not in that group text. So I forgot that Makin has removed himself from the work group text.

And he said, what's the name of the baby? I said, we went with June. And to that, he said, that's what I plan to name my daughter. And there was no laughter. There was no, like, follow up. So, like, by all means, Makin, name your daughter June. So that's enough on baby talk. Real fast, I want to say as a son of a plumber, never use Drano.

Drano is not good. You don't want to use Drano because the more you pour it down, it works against the glue of your pipes. The glue that you put on the pipes. Just snake that puppy. Well, that's the thing. I don't have a snake. You know, I had to call the plumbers and they had to get the snake down here. It was kind of cool.

we were watching, I don't know if any of you have ever watched the snake, Reed, I'm sure you have. But like, you know, it's amazing the technology they have. It's just like a big hose wrapped around like, you know, would you call it a spool? And then, you know, they run it in the pipe. And it's got this monitor on it. So you can really, you can see.

Like, I could see what my kids ate for dinner the other night. I'm like, yeah, there's a goldfish, the whole thing. But the plumber was really funny because he looked up in my kids. And he was like, yeah, stay in school, guys. And I was like, I was like, come on, man. This is like, this is a, this is a solid occupation, man. Reed's dad's a plumber. Like, that's no shade on plumbers.

I think it's actually a pretty, pretty fucking cool gig. I love looking at that, I love looking at that monitor. It's amazing the technologies of the plumbers have in 2023. Can you imagine in your dad's era, in his prime, if he'd had the snake, he would have set all kinds of records. These plumbers, oh, for sure. It's like the NFL is a passing league now,

so you've got to look at all the receiving statistics and the passing statistics and kind of, you know, kind of take that into consideration. The same thing with the plumbers. These guys have great technology now. Right, exactly. He would have been, you know, it would have been the kind of thing where, you know,

Larry Bird and the current NBA era, he would have been on everybody's starting all-time five. And besides, stay in school, like get some, fucking political science degree or some sociology degree how's that going a lot of people are you know are struggling there so yeah my dad makes the same joke but i'm like this is some cool stuff you know you'd learn some cool stuff this some cool shit dad okay it's time for a hello atlantic ocean hello why why why why aladdin ocean because of this fucking cruise ship matt yeah man the icon of the seas oh my god that thing is thick that thing is thick that thing

is thick. That's like the megan, the stallion of cruise ships. I mean, that thing is, my very first thought was like, how can we convince Chris that this would be a fun green light trip? And then you just said we should go. Dude, I've never wanted to go on a cruise in my life. My wife hates cruises, so I know I could definitely get the pass. If it's like for content, I think we could do it. I think this cruise ship takes off Port of Miami in January. So like playoff time. Maybe. Maybe. we get the whole green light crew on this bad boy or i was thinking i was thinking like maybe a good fantasy football punishment would be and not on this cruise ship because this is like living in the lap of luxury i see all types of great amenities uh it's beautiful it really is uh but like maybe we find

the shittiest cruise yeah and we send the loser of the fantasy football league on a cruise alone what do you think i think i'd try to lose on purpose Do you think so? I would send you on the idiot cruise, bro. I would send you on the type of cruise where the guys that rolled up on Tom Hanks are just rolling up on these cruise ships, bro. I think maybe like there's like a carnival Somalia package that we could find you. It probably end up being me, though. You'd forget to set your lineup still.

For sure. But I want to throw that around, and I also want to remind people that we have the Waffle House coming up with Macon and I, 24 hours, me and him, the losers of the last two years of our Thursday Night Time Machine. Got to spend 24 hours in a Waffle house. No problem. You get a waffle an hour, so you deduct an hour for every waffle you eat. I'm going to be out of there in, I don't know. I'm going to eat, 10 waffles, be out of there, no problem. and I'll be eating highly motivated to leave Macon in the Waffle House alone for as long as I can. Macon's going to get back to us with a date in August. We've been waiting on that. So that'll be, I mean, maybe we'll do a football Sunday. I mean, maybe we'll do like week one from the Waffle House.

We'll get a whole setup in there. We made some great friends in there last time. So keep an eye out for that. layup line today is going to be hungry like the wolf which is a banger dude i don't know why i don't have that saved on my spotify hungry like the wolf because kc wolf was captured this week the guy that was sticking up banks and traveling to all his favorite teams games

kansas city chiefs dressed as a wolf he had like an online presence the whole thing but there was something more sinister going on people did not know that he was kind of like, you know, like, I mean, this should be a movie, honestly. Bank Robin, Kansas City super fan. He was busted. He was out on bond. He took his fucking his ankle monitor off, like, kind of like Patrick Mahomes took his ankle brace off in the playoffs. And he's been on the run ever since.

So it was fun while it lasted. Print the T-shirts, man. Free K.C. Wolf. Like that's free money. We should get that merch out tomorrow. Got to tip my cap to the guy. I always wonder how long I'd last on the lamb. And this guy lasted a while.

Yeah, seven robberies in like a nine-month span, including one of 70,000. Got all the money changed up at casinos and tried to launder it. Not bad. Yeah, hit up credit unions in Minnesota, too. Mixed it up. Made it on Pat McAfee's highlight tape. Oh, yeah. Didn't Pat McAfee?

Yeah, didn't Pat McAfee kind of do a citizen's arrest on him? Yeah, yeah, yeah, because he asked where, yep, exactly. And maybe tried to pinpoint his location. So, yeah, shout out to Casey Wolf, free Casey Wolf. Kind of a victimless crime, if you think about it. I mean, it's not like he offed anybody in the banks or various credit unions that he frequented. He just came in and he got people's money. I'm sure a lot of that's insured.

Yeah, he's just fucked over the FDIC, that's it. Yeah, and who doesn't look like fucking over the FDIC? I don't even know what they do. They insure banks money. Yeah, well, how's that going? I don't know. I'm so excited to announce our new sponsor, Oakley, express your style and build a look that's made for you.

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the Pittsburgh Steelers. One reason is this Kenny Pickett guy, a guy that I thought I would just absolutely fucking hate after the fake slide. But I love the guy. I love watching him play. And now he's joining the Greenlight Pot. What's up, Kenny? What's up, man?

Thanks for having me on. Dude, thanks for coming on. We met at the Waste Management open there in Scottsdale. And I thought that was a great time. I had never been before. Are you a golf guy? Just getting to golf a little bit, trying to play more. more in my free time. And I wasn't too sure how I was going to like it either. And it was very unique.

And it was cool. It was entertaining. It was cool to meet you. And there's a lot of people walking around and also like kind of enjoy some good golf and see what good golf looks like up close. So yeah, it was cool. Did you catch the streaker? I missed them. No, man. That was the highlight of the day for me. Obviously the guy wasn't naked, but but he was out he was out there. He was he had a good run, man. He had to the middle of the pond or something, right? Yeah, he got all the way out to the middle of pond, but you guys had a really good setup. I was there with Ryan Rissillo and a couple of my buddies, and we wandered over, and there

was a booth with you and Jalen Phillips and a couple guys, I guess, maybe same agent or that type of thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, same agent, so we were, they hooked us up with a nice little spot. Yeah, he's a hell of a player. You don't want to see him in the back field. No, I'll afford him. What, what, the first thing I want to ask you, because I'm, I got a little background on your music taste.

We do something here called Layup Line where the guest can pick a song to set the mood for the interview. Are you a Luke Combs fan? Yeah, Luke Combs, Morgan Wallen. In the summer, I'm a big country guy in the summer. Well, you probably get a lot of Morgan Wallen yourself. I heard you get mixed up from top top. I used to get Eric Church. I see it.

I see it. So, yeah. Um, if you're doing a Luke Combs or a Morgan Wallen or maybe a Springsteen, because I, I heard you're, you're right over the, the city limits from where the boss is from. That's right. Is there a song you got in your head right now? Uh, God, that's a good question. Let's see.

I mean, I shot gunned a beer with Luke Combs to, to one too many, so I'll go with that one. Okay, one too many. And I hear he's the coolest guy in the world. Dude, unbelievable. Um, blue, down to earth guy, like really, really cool. Um, yeah, the concert was a blast. We had a couple of teammates there, and the wives were all there. It was fun.

I thought he did a good job on Game Day. I don't know if you saw him. You were busy, but I watch college game. I thought that one. Yeah, I'm sure he was great. Yeah, he's an Ab State guy. So when they got Game Day, he was down there. But, yeah, we like Luke Combs.

I like, I'm into the, so I like Chiliter's and Stapled in and some of the newer country guys. But the new country is not as good as the old country. I don't know if you're into the 90s stuff at all, but that's what I grew up on. You grew up when I got it now. Give me some names. George Strait, Diamond Rio, Alan Jackson, you know, that 90s country gold, man. You know, try some of that on.

Does Chesney fall in that? I like Chesney a lot. My co-host is a Kenny Chesney fanatic. And actually, we got to meet him. We drove up to Pittsburgh to see him and Eric Church. And Chase Rice, too. Let me not forget Chase. who's another one of my dovil gangers.

But yeah, we kicked it actually after the show with Big Ben and a couple of the guys back there got to meet Kenny. So, yeah, that was my last time in Pittsburgh. What's it like playing in Pittsburgh? I mean, like, you know, you played your whole college career there. Well, you're almost a Philly guy from what I understand. Yeah, Matt grew up watching a little bit, man. Yeah, the Eagles, man.

Yeah, you were an Eagles fan growing up? I was. I was, so I was, like an hour, hour 15 from Philly. My dad grew up in Philly a little bit. He spent some time in Philly. So that's where I got it from. Yeah, I can, well, I can hear the accent, you know? Yeah, no, like Pittsburgh seems like one of those sports towns.

The reason I love Philly is probably a lot of the same reasons I would love Pittsburgh if I played there. You know, they definitely bleak green. It's a football town. All the sports facilities are within. and, you know, walking distance. And I love in Pittsburgh seeing that aerial shot of all those yellow-ass stadiums on that river. It's just a beautiful setup.

But I know it's a great sports town, and I don't know how much it ramped up for you, you know, going from Pittsburgh to the Steelers because, like, people care about, obviously, Pitt, but it's a whole other level with the Steelers. Like, were you shocked a little bit? Yeah, I mean, I think being, having a chance, chance to see it next door and be there for be in the city for five years and kind of see how people

you know, love the Steelers. Like it's definitely a different level. It's noticeably different on game day and noticeably different just being the quarterback for the Pittsburgh Steelers. So incredibly grateful to be here, especially after witnessing it for five years. Yeah, especially since they've only had one for like the longest time. And now there's a lot of pressure on you guys. Because I feel like when I look at your team, I'm like, they're ready to win. And, you know, last year it was like, you know, this is a team that's got to learn to win all over again. You know, a new guy under center and all that stuff. And you were a big part of winning a lot of those games that I thought kind of make a team grow up.

You know, you know, those fourth quarter comebacks, those big drives. And that game day experience has got to be awesome. Like, are you a big sticks guy? Like when they play the sticks in the stadium, do you get a little? little hyped up. I try to stay mellow as I can on on game day, which is hard. But my position, like over the years, I've found I play my best when I'm just kind of like flatline almost out there. I real focused on my job and what I have to do and analyzing like what needs to be done to help us win. But I think that the moment that always gets me is like the intro is the callouts,

like waiting when you get that there, there's nothing I can say to like I'm sure you, you feel the same way. Like that is, that's a different, different level. So it's special. No question. And, you know, like I kind of, I'm curious, you being a guy who likes to stay low key, when you get in those situations, those big wins I talked about that you guys had last year and those drives that were just a lot of fun, some primetime games, some rivalries.

You know, when you were a pit, you're the alpha. You know, you're the guy in the huddle who's looking at all his boys and are like, where's Kenny going to take us? And then, you know, you get up in the pros and you're staring back at a bunch of alphas and they got to trust you. What was that process like, you know, gaining the trust to the leaders on that team and you got so many great vets there? Was there a moment where you were like, okay, I think they trust me? Yeah, that's a good question. I don't know if it was like a moment or just kind of you just kind of feel like I think over time it kind of like sways to where like those last like four games of the season I felt like to me.

it felt like I was kind of running the offense and I was, you know, getting or on my way to where I wanted to be and then having those fourth quarter wins and like those come from behind wins or those are big moments that kind of validate all the hard work and everything that, you know, we were putting into it to kind of try and get back into that playoff chase. So, you know, I think over those four games, I think is where I kind of started to feel that it was becoming like it was like my offense and I was running, you know, running the show. I think back to your college career and, you know, I watched a little bit of pick because you all always kicked Virginia's ass. And we were thorn in our sides, man, but a physical group and the whole thing, you know, like what you added was that element of athleticism.

And, you know, like I can think back to, I think y'all were playing Miami and they were supposed to go to the playoff. I don't know if you remember this game, but you guys upset them. You probably had a pretty fun night that night. But I think it's fourth down and you guys are going to ice it and you run a boot. And, you know, it's like being able to get you out of the pocket is such a, it's such a weapon for Pittsburgh and it was for Pitt as well. But not something that they were used to with Big Ben. You know, Big Ben was kind of back there stationary.

It was like, if you can get me down, you know, be my guess. But like you add that athleticism and I wonder how much you could see that offense. kind of morphing into something where they could get the best out of that trait of yours, like through the year. Do you feel like there was a process with which they went about implementing some of those athletic things that you could do? Yeah, I think there were some things that we could put like, you know, scripted, you know, rollouts, bootlegs, whatever it may be, some design quarterback runs in those big time situations

where you can add a locker with the running back. And, you know, there's certain things that way in terms of a run game. But I think also like off scripts, you know, being able to, you know, if they dial up a drop back and they cover us down and I can extend and do something on my legs, either buying time to make a throw or buying time and taking off and getting a first down or score a touchdown, whatever it may be. I think it goes twofold with, you know, scripted and non-scripted. And I think it's something that, you know, hopefully can open some, you know, new doors up for our offense. Do you get excited when you see man because, you know, you have that trap door? Two men, man, man is the one. When I see that, it's kind of in the back of my mind.

I'm always like, listen, if they're all, if it's covered to any kind of extent where I see that, you know, that lane open up, I'm going to take off. And I think we saw it two or three times. I think it was one against the dolphins, one against the Saints. And I took off like 25 against the Saints. And that was the last time I saw it. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think you can begin a lot of that.

And in your vision, there's some really good rush. You know, like some of them on your team, you're probably pretty glad you don't have to play against TJ and Cam. And let me not forget High Smith, because I think he doesn't get enough credit at all. I think he was a little bit snub for the Pro Bowl. But, you know, you look around that division, it probably starts with Miles Garrett, doesn't it? Yeah, outside of our team, yeah, I think, you know, he's a tough one since he's tough across the board. And, I mean, so the Ravens are so. Like you said, I mean, it's pretty consistent throughout the division of, you know, up front.

is kind of their stout on every team. They got some elite players. And, you know, like, you know, just game planning offensively, there's so much that ties into controlling that guy. Because if you don't account for him, he could wreck the game, you know, strip sack or where he's forcing, you know, bad throw, whatever it may be, those guys can really, you know, sabotage a game plan or ruin a game. So having T.J. and going against him in practice and kind of, you know,

I think we have a good understanding. of certain things we can do to try and slow those guys down. You know, sometimes we've got to stand up one-on-one, but you really don't want to have that be a consistent, you know, factually throughout the game where those guys get a key on when they're going to be one-on-one, because when they turn it on, they're pretty tough. Yeah, I was wondering, like, what do you think you'd have to set the over-under on times? You heard Miles Garrett's name, you know, the week you play Cleveland.

Is it 100 or North Carolina? There's a lot. We just use numbers. So I'm big on numbers. I hear his number a lot, hear his name a lot. Yeah, it's a lot. Anytime you play, I mean, we played Vegas. You know, Crosby.

Yeah, because you don't know where he's going to be. Like for some rushers you play, you know they're going to be eight yards in the hoop all game. And some guys are going to be spinning inside out. They're going to be in the B gap. They're going to be in the A gap. Crosby's hell. Yeah. And I think the thing that stands out with him is his motor.

He's got a motor. You know, he's got a different, he reminds me a T.J. A lot of how hard those guys play every single single single. You have to account that you're going to get, you know, 110% out of those guys. So I think, yeah, you know, just in my first year in the league, it was crazy the amount of talented, you know, edge guys that I faced. Are you sitting there during the weekend, like,

is important to you to know, like, how these guys are getting these guys blocked so you know when the one-on-one is, when your clock's got to speed up and that sort of thing. Are you pretty keyed in on that every play? Yeah, 100%. I mean, there's things that I've seen, you know, going against TJ has helped me just being able to talk to him and kind of like understand. Like I ask him what alignments make him kind of slow down what makes him second guess some certain things. So by having that in my head, like I already, and then I take that to the tape to the film and I kind of see if the guys in the other team are doing the same thing that he says that he does uncertain looks. And when I have that in my head, I'm like, okay, I can get a beat here or I can I can buy a half a second here, you know, or whatever.

but I mean, some of these guys are so elite, man. They know drop patterns. They know when to rush based off of quick game and drop back. And it's a high level of play when you're going against the best in the world. So there's a lot of things that go into it. You know, but I like our guys off from. We have that game plan and going into Sunday. I usually feel really confident in what we have.

Yeah, I mean, like, I got to ask this question. I usually ask quarterback this question. What's the hardest you were hit last year? Oh, Quentin Williams. Yeah. Easy, easy answer against the Jets. I came in and I think they ran a stun or something. He came, he came, he came on top, got me right under the chin.

And I got up, like, laughing. I was just like, I've never been hit that hard in my life. You know, I've had concussions where it's like I got hit off the ground. You know, my head has hit the ground. Like, that's not anyone hitting me, you know, for more of just the whiplash of the ground. Just full on, like, standing in the pocket, though. I mean, that's a big dude coming at you full speed. Yeah.

though. Yeah. How about, you know, your gloves, man, because people made a big deal about, they were talking about your hands,

they were talking about the gloves. Like, first off, did you know you had hands that were going to get, you know, like over analyzed going into the draft? Or was that just a thing that you showed up to the combine?

You were like, fuck, man. I didn't know. I knew, I knew we had like, you had like junior day or whatever, but I was such a late round guy. I'm like,

shit. I just hope I get dragged. Like, I'm just trying to be trapped. Right, you're not thinking about that little stuff. Yeah, I'm like, dude, if I'm worried about what people say about my hand size, I'm in a good spot. Because all they talk about is first round guys. They usually don't talk too much about the guys that go undrafted about their hand size or guys are late. So I was, you know, I always, me and my dad always joked about.

I'm like, you know what? I'll be in a pretty good spot if they're talking about my hands. Yeah, I think it worked out. It worked out, man. It ended up happening. What about, like, did people ask you? dumb questions in the interview process about it? Oh, man.

There's some, and there were some teams that were like, why do you, like, you know, I was like, I'm not measuring it until later because I was, you know, doing, like, exercise to to stretch your hands. And that's like, you know, I did gain a little by doing that. They're like, oh, why do you care so much? Like, you know, we don't care. I'm like, well, you don't, but 10 other teams, they care. You know what I'm saying?

I'm trying to, you know, go as high as I can go. So there were some teams are like, oh, don't worry about it. I'm like, you know, I appreciate that, but, you know, there's a couple other teams out there that, you know, care a little bit more than others. So you just want to put your best foot forward in that process. You only get to do it once. Yeah, how about the gloves, man? Because, like, obviously I can barely throw a football. But, like, I would imagine there's some pluses and minuses. Are there any minuses to the glove? The minuses that other people have said to me that I have, like, if you over grip, like, if you really squeeze the ball hard and you over grip it, that's when the gloves become, you know, because you just hold a, you. on it too long and guys spiked the ball. But when I had the gloves, I just, you know, light grip and spin it. Like it comes out nice. I haven't had really any problems with it.

I started 2019 doing it. I think I did it one game in 2018, my college career. And then 2019, I had one Thursday night game. I had a pretty good game. And then my college coach was like, hey, let's keep it for another week. And I ended up loving it playing well. Just felt more comfortable with it. Yeah, was it Whipple? Yeah, Coach Whip. Yep. Yeah, Whipple, he was like, yeah, stay with the gloves. I mean, like, there's been some guys with gloves, like the guy you just succeeded used to wear gloves. Peyton won a Super Bowl wearing gloves. I mean, I feel like this is a stigma that's got to go away.

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, like you said, there's some guys that people, I think, they don't realize that they wear it. And then a guy like me coming out of college that wore it a ton, like Teddy wore him in college. And, you know, I'm sure he was getting, you know, lit up for it. But, you know, it doesn't really bother me too much because I'm the one throwing it. Does it matter if it's hot? Like, you're going to play Tampa in the opener, and as somebody who's going down to Tampa for the opener, it's like fucking, dude, just drink.

Start hydrating now. But, like, does it bother you when it's hot as hell, or do you mean no difference? No, no difference, really. I mean, there's two different style. Like, I'll wear the receiver ones or I'll wear like the weather gloves. Like, they're kind of leather. The ball gets moist. That's really one, like, those gloves work the best.

So I wear it both comfortable. We played in Jacksonville in the preseason, and that was hot. We played Miami on Sunday night or Monday night. I think last year it was so hot for that game. Remember that game. I've worn them in all different kinds of weather, and it worked out pretty well. We talk about Peyton and the gloves. You've crossed a pass with Peyton and Eli when it came to the Peyton Manning Passing Academy.

What do they do, man? man. I hear all about it. You know, you hear about these like D-line summits, these O-line mastermind summits, but like what's the passing academy really about? And is it so different from like, because I always notice this, quarterback coaching the NFL,

and I'm sure you've got a good one, but they don't pay so much attention to that marriage. And, you know, like you are getting coaching from only one guy, and I feel like there's a ton of ways to play quarterback. Is it nice to be able to go to somebody like that? and get a different take and is like your QB coach okay with that you know what I mean like I know this happened in college but how does that work yeah yeah I mean my coach whip was really happy that

I went there it's just kind of an experience of being with like the mannings and then being with the top guys that that were in college at the time like I I love just being able to be on the field with those guys and watch some of the stuff that they did and like I'm always looking at try and steal something from something. You know, like everybody does something really well, whether that would be from the pocket or on the move or kind of preparation. Like we, we had like a, every day,

we had like an hour chalk talk or kind of Q&A and Eli and you could pick their brains on how they, how they prepared. And I got my film study and preparation from the Manning Camp, actually, from, from Peyton and Eli. That was really when I started, you know, kind of being in real regiment, like with the film and how I study and what I do on each day.

Then I got with Coach Whip and kind of really refined it to what I like and how the game plan fits. So there's so many things that you do on the field. And then at night, you get to go to dinner and kind of hang out with the rest of the guys and just be, you know, you're around, you feel so comfortable

because you're with everyone that's doing the same thing as you. Like you're all trying to chase. You're all chasing the same dream and you're all going through the same thing. You're not worried about anything going on because you're with guys that you're just, you're comfortable.

with them and it's like you've known them for a while but you just met them because we're all going through the same things. I think the uniqueness of that and the kind of brotherhood of being a college quarterback, it was, I went twice and by far one of my favorite, you know, football experiences. What's something that like you were not doing watching film or vice versa that Peyton and Eli kind of righted the ship on? I think how broad I was watching film before that. Like I was just watching, and it's almost like you're just watching film just to watch it. You know, like you're watching so many clips and cut out. And you're just like, I looked at how simple.

And my big thing was like when I went in there, I was like, how do you guys streamline it? Like there's so much that goes into a game plan. Defenses have so many things. Like how do you streamline it? And when I saw how regimented it was and the cutups and, you know, the third down breakdown, the red zone breakdown, the two minute and all that stuff and how they made it kind of where they kept like kind of three things in their head and everything else.

As long as I saw it on tape a couple times, you're like, I'm not going to put too much stock in it. If I see it, I've seen it before on tape and I'll just go play. But this is what this is the red and butter and I have, you know, I'm ready for the adjustments if they throw that at me. That was my big thing. Like I used to, like sophomore year of Kyle, I would go in with so many different things that I would think too much. And, you know, having that experience of talking to Peyton and Eli and how to kind of streamline the film stuff. you know, really helps me. You think would you want to be on this Netflix special?

You've seen this Netflix quarterback special? How would you feel with cameras and following you around all the time? I honestly don't know. I think it, you know, I think it would be really cool like when you're retired or something, you have kids and, you know, you can put that on and be like, you know, this is what I did. You know, this is, this was my job. This is what went into it. but man

having cameras around you 24-7 that would be the only thing where you can't kind of just be yourself like I don't care what anyone says if you see a camera around you're kind of guarded you're not going to be you know your true self

I don't I don't you know I'm not too sure I'm not too sure I mean I would just talk to Peyton and just kind of be like you know what would you do like how would you handle it you know I don't and I don't know how much I don't know if it was 24-7 or if they're like hey, we're here for an hour or two today, or I don't know how the filming went, but I would definitely need to get the details on that before saying, yeah,

it's just because of how much goes in it, how long a season is, and the ups and down, the things that you know for sure that go on. If you could shadow one quarterback in the league, though, right now, who would it be for like a week? That's a really good question. I mean, he's retired, but I'm going to go Tom because he was there last year. I'd want to spend a week with him and see. I was Kim Kardashian.

No, this is a married man, everybody. By the way, congratulations. Thank you. Thank you, man. I appreciate that. And you were in People Magazine? The pictures were in People Magazine? Yeah, they were in People Magazine.

How fucking surreal is that? It's good. Getting married early is great. You got a good head of hair, you know, the whole thing. Some of my buddies are waiting into their 30s. You know, this shit starts creeping back. the pictures aren't as good right now hopefully i could keep it yeah what what about um mike tomlin man like i've always been so he's a virginia guy i mean he's from uh down at the beach

went to william mary you know i used to play against steelers just always really like the guy what what is he really about like if you could describe him to somebody that's never seen him coach or heard him talk before. What is he about in that building? Business man. When he's in the, when he's in the building, he's about business. But when you talk to him one-on-one, like behind closed doors, he's, he's down to earth, man. Like he's honest with you. You know where you stand. There's no one that has any questions really about him or his motives or, you know, what he's about. He's about winning. And he, he puts everything into it, you know, absolutely everything. His breakdowns of teams, his IQ of the game,

defenses and offensive, you know, football is the best I've ever been around. He'll flat out tell us how a game is going to go, you know, that first team meeting in the breakdown. Like if we do XYZ, we'll win. If we don't, we'll lose. And if after a win, he'll pull it up. Like, we did this. That's why we won. If we lost, we like, listen, it's, he lays it out for you very, very clearly. You know, love, love playing for him. Great got to be around. Same guy every day. So yeah, in a nutshell, That's it right there. How do you piss him off? What's his pet peeve?

Because they all got him. Probably energy. Like, if you show it with some Jews played, play the game, how it's supposed to be played. If he doesn't see that, obviously, he'll get on some guys. Yeah, no question. And your leaders, man, I mentioned those earlier. I mean, like, you walk into a locker room with all those guys, man.

Was there anybody defensively or offensively that kind of took you under the wing more than others? And I know you mentioned T.J. You know, like how valuable is it to have that veteran group? Because nowadays, with the new CBA, there's not as many vets team to team. I mean, it's just a lot of teams are so young. You've had a nice setup there. What's that like? You know, I got Mason Cole with our center is a guy that I kind of was hit-to-hip with when I first got here.

Up until now, obviously. Cam Sutton was a defensive guy. Cam, hey, where was my locker made? So he's right next to me. TJ and Minkerts, you guys around a lot. Levi Wallace was a guy that I sit next to in the team meeting room. All the top of my head, I would say

those were the guys that I really just kind of watched and watched that they went about their business, asked them questions when I needed to. We're young on offense, like you said. So there's a lot of guys that lead their own way. They do it differently. You can always pick up new leadership techniques from different guys, as well as Coach Tomlin.

He's a guy that I kind of picked up a lot of new leadership things, and he'll sit down and talk with me about some certain things that he sees on the offensive side now, you know, now that I'm in year two and I'm kind of the guy, you know, on the office side that's taken over the leadership role. So it's been by committee where I've been able to kind of learn from different people. You still got the Black Air Forces, by the way? I never wore those, but all the guys did. And the funny story about those, man, a lot of those were white. Like, they were sold out of the Black ones. He hired that. He hired that. He, he

He hired this guy to paint him black. Damn, dude. He had guys spray painting their Air Force ones. Yeah, they were sold out, I guess. That's beautiful, man. And how about, how about Pickens? I mean, holy shit, man. I mean, like, and I know we haven't seen the half of it

because you throw to him every day in practice and we don't see every acrobatic catch he makes. Like, how good can this guy be? Yeah, I mean, George could be a top guy in the least. week, no doubt. Like there's probably three catches in practice that stick out to me that are better than ones that he had, you know, that everyone saw on the season. His natural ability is like his floor is so high, I guess, just based off the natural ability.

And now we put together a nice route package for him. He continues to work on, you know, his game and we work on our continuity together. You know, I'm really excited to play with him, you know, going to year two. So you got any big goals this year? for yourself personally or, you know, like, are there things that you're like, I'm going to work on this? Like, I'm going to improve here. I'm sure there are, but like any that you would share. Yeah, I mean, I just want to master our system. And I going into a second year, I feel like this spring, I took, you know, really command of our offense and what we're doing and, you know,

being heavily involved with Coach Canada and Coach Tomlin on what, you know, I like, what I don't like to kind of tailor our offense to the best, you know, to what I do best, what our guys, what the guys around me do best and what we want to do, you know, from a schematic standpoint, you know, I really want to master the system and run the show. So that's what I'm working towards. Yeah, definitely we want to get you back on after a big win. I got one last question for you, dude. And this one's going to be a divisive one. What is your Jersey Shoretown? Ocean Township Ocean Township

Okay and that's close to your house right So it's like kind of a no-brainer Yeah Yeah I'm an Ocean City guy It's a dry town But it's a nice family town It's down south

My in-laws have a house there Sweet So yeah So yeah In the summer there's no place better It's not bad Montana's not bad either The sun goes down at 1030 at night

It's 83 and sunny No humidity every day I'm on a lake It's not bad bro. That's not bad. That's not bad. True. No. Well, enjoy your summer, dude. We're wishing you the best luck. Go Steelers and come back again after you get a big dub. All right, ma'am. Absolutely, brother. Thank you, man. This podcast is brought to you by Cash App, the ideal app for spending, sending, and setting easy to track savings goals. Personally, I love using Cash App savings tools

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Check us out. I kind of hate that I had to start podcasting right when the Pat Fitzgerald stuff happened because nobody likes talking about the Pat Fish Gerald stuff. It's one of those things. like if you'd have made me write a short list of like college coaches that I trust, you know, that were trustworthy and seem like genuine articles. Pat Fitzgerald would probably be in the top five.

I mean, like, he's just one of those guys. He's had this squeaky, clean reputation, 18 years at Northwestern. Really a feel-good story. I mean, you have your Stanfords of the world. You have your Virginias. You have, you know, Northwesterns. It's harder to win places like this. And for him to be able to be able to.

to make them competitive year in and year out is nothing short of remarkable. And, you know, getting everybody behind him, like building that beautiful new facility they have on the lake, the whole thing, like, what he's done is impressive. And I respected him. And I still, listen, he's fired. He'll probably work again. I figure he'll work again at some point. I don't know.

I mean, like, there are kind of. coaches who have done worse things, but this is bad. And this is something that's got to be dealt with. And I understand why he is fired. When you hear about some of the details, man, it's like, what the fuck is going on there, dude? And why do they do all their hazing naked? Like, I just, like, when I got to Virginia, I won't go into it, but there was some hazing. I mean, there was some, like, run-of-the-mill, good, old-fashioned, boys being boys. is hazing. And, you know, I understand that we live in a time now, almost, golly, 20 years later, you know, 15, 20 years later, where that stuff's not acceptable anymore. And I, you know,

like as bad as people want to cling to the way things are, like things change. And all of a sudden, one day somebody says something and people start talking about an issue and we realize as we talk it out that it's probably not okay. You know, and when I was at Virginia, the shit that players did. Coach Groh had no idea. You know, like we, I told you the first time me and Nate met, well, was on his visit when we got him absolute shithouse, but Dr. Fax shows up to camp. We give the freshman boxing gloves and, and we said, you know, like pick somebody out. And, you know, to my surprise, Nate was like, I want to fight you. Classic.

Me and Nate had a little scrap and all was forgiven on both sides of it. but like there's other stuff that went on. And, you know, like, times have changed. That stuff's not acceptable anymore. Even with the NIL money, these guys are out there playing for free. You know, like, relatively speaking. I mean, they're not recouping their value added to a football program financially. And so, like, you got unpaid labor out there.

You got these guys getting humiliated. This stuff is sexual and nays. nature. You know, Pat alleges that he knew nothing. If he's fired without cause, which I have a hard time imagining that that's going to be found, especially with how swiftly Northwestern fired him after they were prompted to do so by the school newspaper. If he's fired without cause, he gets $42 million back. But I have a hard time imagining he's going to see that money. Yeah. Even not knowing stuff like that could be considered cause because, like, you should be aware of what's going on in your program.

And that's the whole thing. It's the institutional control piece, which is a buzzword that's been used a lot. Like, as soon as lawsuits started coming around with this stuff, lawsuits change everything. Okay, like whether it's concussions or hazing or whatever, like lawsuits shape the landscape of modern day sports. And when lawsuits started happening, you know,

hazing was in the crosshairs. And, you know, the same thing with the transfer portal. I think what's interesting here is the transfer portal gives kids cover to talk about, things that they wouldn't otherwise be able to talk about, where like when I went to school and you were locked into that roller coaster, unless you sat out for a year and transferred, there was no, like, I'm going to tell on the guy that I'm going to be working with the next three years. This guy's got my football future by the balls.

I'm not going to be a whistleblower, but this kid who's since been doxed, he was a quarterback for Northwestern who's since transferred. He's the guy that kind of blew this whole thing up. And, you know, in 22 last year in the fall in November, evidently, he went to the university. They did nothing about it. The way this thing goes is the heat kind of turns up. They thought on a summer Friday, they could slip in a two-week suspension. And for a second there, they probably thought they were home free.

They hired an attorney or like some investigator type thing. You know, and you handpick your investigator, you oversee it. You know, there wasn't enough evidence. to fire him, but enough to suspend him. The next day, the Northwestern student newspaper. And let me tell you something about student newspapers. They're the scariest fucking thing in the world. If you don't want somebody to find out your dirt, the skeletons in your closet, what you're

doing wrong, steer clear of student newspapers, because these little motherfuckers will fry your ass. Local sports coverage has been decimated. Like local newspapers, sports coverage across the country, is so much less. It's all been nationalized to, like, you know, the athletic or whomever. So a lot of time, those, like, college newspapers are all we have to report on abuses of power. Yeah, and they have a big, big job. I mean, like, you know, just in the past few years, I mean, remember in 2015, Duke had a star player with two sexual assault charges,

and they weren't going to do anything about it. The coaching staff was aware of it, and their student newspaper beat them to the punch. I've heard a story about Stanford and their student newspaper holding the president's feet to the fire over falsified data. You know, like, this is the sports world. It's, you know, it's hard when you've got this beloved figure at Northwestern, who's synonymous with the school. He's like, Mr. Wildcat, he played there. He's a great player.

He's a great guy. People think to be like, yeah, let me turn over this rock. And they did it, and they did it on Saturday. They did it a day after 1600 Word. report with all the details, got these stories corroborated by a second source. And there have been guys, I believe, that played there throughout the years that have corroborated some of this. So, like, it's not just two sources. Now, to be fair to Pat Fitzgerald, now, I don't know, okay? I'm telling you what I'm going

off of. He's denied it. He said he's not aware of any of this stuff. and the the football players in mass in some respect put out a statement supporting Pat Fitzgerald. And I think, you know, like not knowing for sure what he knew or what he didn't know, I think football is an interesting culture when it comes to being susceptible to this sort of thing because it is so high stress, it is so emasculating. There's so much, like, kind of group think. There's peer pressure. There are alphas.

When the ball gets rolling on something like this, people get out of the way. And, you know, when you see a letter written from an entire football team, I kind of wonder how many guys, whether it's five or ten, or whether it's 25, feel like, well, they're not speaking for me, but I can't say anything. Now, of course, even with the exit strategy that the transfer portal gives you the heat that the lawsuits have put on all this, the anonymity with which you can probably

operate for the most part, it's still a scary prospect to speak out against your entire team. And I think also this is a very real thing in football. Stockholm syndrome, which, you know, I'll butcher it, but it's like when your abuser has such control over you that you're almost appreciative of the abuse, you're like, you're like, you're like this is the way things are supposed to be. You think about kids growing up and fucked up households. I read an article the other day about like if you like watching murder mysteries or, you know, like true crime stuff before bed, you're fucked up because like what you're doing is trying

to normalize your surroundings based on some trauma that you had as a kid. So like, I don't know how many of us are actually really fucked up secretly, but I kind of like watching murder mysteries. Before bed. I like watching the who done it's. But it's the same thing with the Stockholm syndrome of being a football player. I mean, like, I've had coaches that were borderline abusive, were fucked up. Now, I usually sat in a position of power as one of the better players on whatever team I was on, or one of the highest paid players or a captain on team.

So, like, I had the luxury of having some cover. But for a lot of these guys, you know, like, you get kind of abused. as a player. And you know, your, it's this weird primal instinct to want to get the approval of the coach so bad because your entire livelihood is tied to it. You kind of give up your agency. You kind of, in a weird way, start to love the coach

that's been abusing you. Even if you don't get along with him, he's always able to connect with you in some way. And you look at the football. movies were watching like you know bud kilmer right uh you know for almost the entirety of the season those players wouldn't talk back to him and in some instances even found him endearing even though they knew he was a fucking monster well pat fitzgerald's not bud kilmer but what he is is a guy who's failed to um maintain institutional control and i had a coach named jeff fisher who i thought was

the best when it came to managing personalities and players and respecting his guys. Now, Fish lost some games. Fish didn't quite get over the hump. People like making jokes about the guy. But if I had a son and, you know, I wanted him playing for a coach, Jeff Fisher would be near the top of the list because of the way he respects his players. And I'll tell you a story. I can remember my, you know, like my first year with Fish, when there's a new coach, you're always feeling out. What are his hot spots? Like, what are the rules? Like, I wore a cutoff shirt into the cafeteria. You know, he has, like, a no cutoff shirt in the cafeteria thing. And it kind of made sense once he explained to me. You don't want your fucking armpit hairs in the

lasagna. But, you know, like, you're kind of feeling him out to see what else kind of pisses him off. And I can remember the first big team meeting, usually. I'm in year six, seven, I don't know, five, six, seven. And I'm one of the, I'm the dude. And what we do usually is we get. And we get the rookies to get up and sing and that's pretty benign right you get the rookies to get up and sing i remember my rookie or me and david vora who was mr irrelevant we were tight so in the cafeteria in mekwon wisconsin we got up and sang the duet from uh from top gun you never lost you lost that love and feeling uh and we did it because we're geniuses the duet takes pressure off of the individual um but when we got the guys up there to sing for jeff fisher Jeff Fisher Jeff was

like, hold on a second. And we were like, what the fuck do we do? And he's like, sit back down rookies. And of course, in that moment, I felt pretty small as one of the older guys that was trying to get the guys to sing. And he stood up in front of the room and he said, we are not hazing the rookies here. He goes, we need the rookies to win. We need them to play well and we need them to be plugged in and we need them to work their asses off and feel like they're a part of this thing. And when I heard that, it made sense to me. And that, you know, like, when I thought about it, that was always the way I treated rookies. That was always the way I treated freshmen.

You know, I want to help you. I want to bring you along. I'm going to have fun with you. We might cut your hair. We might make you sing. But I'm going to respect you. Now, I wasn't cutting anybody's hair that had dreads. Okay, that was William Hayes' job.

I stood in the back, okay? And if somebody was like, you're not. not cutting my hair. Like we had this really strong-ass rookie that was like adamant he wasn't getting his haircut and all the vets were like, we got to get him to get his fucking haircut. I was like, I have arthritis. Like, I'm not going near that guy. Like if he doesn't want his haircut, how's this going to go down? So yeah, like sometimes you did haircuts when guys were okay with it. They were goofy. They were agreed upon. But in that situation, I could understand why any of it was probably demeaning. You're a grown man. You're out here fucking trying to support your family.

You got God knows what going on at home, kids, family, the whole thing. Your life's on the line. And, you know, you shouldn't have to get up there and sing if the coach doesn't want you get up there and sing. Now, in Philly, those motherfuckers were singing. But I understand what Jeff Fisher was talking about. And it really stuck with me. And when I think about Pat Fitzgerald, I think about Jeff Fisher.

You know, I think about the emotional intelligence and being a leader, I think that's paramount, having emotional intelligence, lacking the emotional intelligence to walk into your team meeting room and Shrex list is on the whiteboard. You know, and you're like, you're not like, what's Shrex list? You're not, you know, what's the car wash? What's the evidently they had a clap that they did above people's heads when they fucked up and you knew that this guy was going to be on Shrex list. And by the way, for people who haven't, maybe I should have led with this, what these guys are being alleged of doing. But like, this is fucking gross. I mean, it's it's upperclassmen and purge masks, dry humping underclassmen in the dark, like eight, ten of them at a time. Actually, I just got a notification.

Jalen Green has transferred to Northwestern. I mean, it's like it's out of a bad movie, man. Like, you know, I understood when what, hazing was perfectly on the line when it was fully clothed. And now, uh, you're getting these guys naked and you're, you're dry humping them. There's a car wash thing, they call it, um, where somebody stands in the,

the entrance to the show. shower, butt naked, and he's spinning around. You know, his meat spinning around, the whole thing there's fucking dew coming off. And I used to shower three showers away from, if it was Jason Peters in there, I was like, I'm getting two showers down because the fucking, the dew radius on a big cat like that, it's like going to go everywhere. It's like, I got your back sweat on me. I don't know if it's back sweater, if it's water.

It's fucking gross, man. And to have to walk through this guy that's spinning his man. that's spinning his meat around like you're a Honda Civic is just, it's unbelievable to me that, first off, that these coaches didn't know anything about it. And secondly, it's kind of unbelievable to me that the fucking guys at Northwestern are like this. You know, it's a bad look. And listen, my school has this skeletons, man. Any college football player can look back at their own monitor and be like, that's embarrassing.

at some turn in the road. But these guys have got to do better. You know, like, I know they got leadership on that team, but if that stuff's going on, they can't be doing that shit. And obviously, they're not going to do it anymore because now, like in so many cases, people are watching. And that's when it stops. It's just like the president who did a two-day investigation

and was like, yeah, I'm going to suspend him. And then two days later, after the article comes out with a bunch of 18-year-olds, are able to uncover all these details, he's like, I'm sorry I didn't look close enough. That's your fucking job, right? And as a coach, that's your job. When all these players bust their ass out there for years, for 18 years, and you reap the benefits of their hard work and the plays they make on the field and their sacrifices, and for most of your tenure, they're unpaid, you get the credit.

Okay? You know, you're not there. You know, you're not there every time guys running gassers, the whole thing, but you're responsible for making sure these guys are in shape and they're ready to win. The fact that you're not there when they're doing the fucking car wash or, you know, the, what are they calling the Shrek gangbang? The runs. They're calling it running.

Running. Running. And then they have a couple of events. They have runs giving and runs mis- because they like to do the hazing around the holidays apparently. Yeah, of course. And I think they left out Run Springer, which is an Amish holiday.

If you guys know what Rum Springa is, these guys are not only weird, they're not creative, okay? Like, the Amish, right, the Amish, they got this fucking write-up passage where these teenagers, they go from churning butter and not masturbating to like,

Hey, go off on your own for a month and do it all. And if you come back, you're Amish. Okay. Like, and by the way, we got a bunch of Amish guys that work on our house here. And they're the best. Okay. Amish people and the power rankings of people, they're pretty high for me. Great craftsmen.

They obviously don't come into work hungover. They're on time. They're there some, so early some fucking mornings. I'm like, golly, it's 5.45 in the morning. They live an hour away. like but here's where it got weird uh i walk in one day and she my wife's like have you ever noticed that um the amish guys all have really strong butts i was like are you saying the omish guys have dumpers and you've been checking them out have you you have an omish dumper fetish like how

fucking weird is that you know it's it's so weird that i'm not threatened you know because i know Amish guys are not a threat. But like if I guess if my wife was going to have any kind of fetish, it probably should be Amish guys. Well, you did say you're trying to get more handsy. Maybe maybe you do feel threatened self-consciously. Well, yeah, a little bit with that. Of course, before you go to the hospital, I'm like, I'm really excited going to the hospital. All the nurses have dumpers. I was like, it's just like an occupational thing. I love a gal and some scrubs. Of course, she didn't find that as funny. But. Yeah, my wife likes Amish guys or something.

So anyways, run Springer. Should have thrown that in the mix. It's fucking weird, man. It's just weird. It's gross. And guys shouldn't have to deal with that. I mean, you walk in, there's a whiteboard with a list of guys and running. And you're like, coaches didn't put this up.

What is this? All it takes the question. And, you know, I was talking to one of my buddies, and he's like, it's really hard for coaches because you know, you don't want to know stuff, right? Because all of a sudden, your ass is on the line. But I would say this, like, if you know a little bit, you've got to know everything. And I think that's the key is like, if I'm a coach and I know a little bit, I want to know everything.

Because now I know a little bit, okay? And all it takes a little bit to get you fired. And more importantly, all it takes a little bit to know something's wrong. And this is not right. I'm glad that, I mean, you know, you could argue should he have been fired the whole thing. I mean, there was a racial component of this, too, which I think is the dumbest shit in the world. It's unbelievable to me that we're still doing this. I'm going to go through the fucking roster last year at Northwestern as we speak.

I bet you there's 10 white guys with long hair on that team. I bet you're going to fight over under 10, okay? He's making guys cut their dreads. You know, it's not the wildcat way. Let me tell you something. That's racist. And it's also fucking cool as hell to have dreads. It looks cool as shit to have dreads.

Like Al Harris was the coolest-looking person on a football field. I cannot believe that we're still doing this in 2023. Like I cannot believe that some coaches are litigating who can have long hair and who can't. I mean, that alone is fucking weird. But when you add in all the helicoptering and the meat spin, and the, you know, the Jalen Green stuff. I, yeah. What's up with the Big Ten, man?

You know? They're into some sick shit in the Big Ten. Okay, so, yeah, like Maryland? What kind of a fetish is that? Yeah, Maryland, come be in our conference. Anyway. Well, they could hire Urban Meyer with the job opening. Yeah, they could.

And clean them up. Actually, the Big Ten hired the communications director from Northwestern, Reed told me. The other day, yeah, this was like right after all the news was released. And the comments, the comments were ridiculous. Yeah, you can't get out of their own way. Too slow to get out of their own way. That's why SEC speed, they're real nimble down there. They avoid all these, like, think about the coaches the SEC has had.

And by the way, it's a great segue into something that I found on the Internet that was solid gold. yesterday we did some like really heavy college football talk I want to talk about something a little bit lighter you guys put this in the group text yesterday it's a Reddit thread and it's a Reddit thread about college football head coaching rumors and I don't mean like who's going to take what job I mean like who fuck the line coach's wife I mean this thing is juicy man And what you realize about college football coaches is a lot of them have substance abuse problems, if this stuff is true. They like to have sex. A lot of sex.

Horny. Horny. Sex with co-eds. Sex with each other's wives. Sex with sharks. Allegedly. Well, it's in the rumors. And so, like, you know, I kind of make sense that McElwain would fuck a shark. I mean, like, think about, of all the people in society with God complexes, I put

college football coach is up there. Like, you know, I would imagine if you're like a college football coach and you think you're like, God, you're like, I can put my penis wherever I want. You know, like, I can fuck whoever I want. I can fuck whatever I want. And so it makes a lot of sense that Jim McElwain mounted a maco shark on the side of a boat, if you believe the rumor. But there were a ton of, there were a ton of crazy rumors in here, man. I'm not even going to list them all. Like, I'll give you some of the more benign ones. Okay, Bill Snyder used to sneak French fries from players and coaches plates. So he was under this strict dietary restriction.

So he used to steal people's French fries. But he went to further lengths. Like he'd have French fries delivered in a salad box. So like people like to his coaching office. So nobody was onto it. And he was like off the wagon. And he was just inhaling French fries. This is the best part.

He was even known to go dumpster diving after. team meals when no one was going to get a sneaky handful. I mean, can you imagine that old motherfucker getting stuck in a dumpster? You walk out there, it's just his white tennis shoes, like, flailing in the air. What's he doing? He's looking for some French fries. Okay, so Lincoln Riley has a belly button tattoo that he got on spring break in college and he's embarrassed of it.

I'll never be seen without his shirt on because of it. I believe that. I really do. Like, that's all it took for me. I believe it. Nobody, like 49 people upvoted it. Good enough for me. Nick Saban was playing in a charity golf event,

and he had a teenager caddying for him. Saban proceeded to get a hole in one and turned to the caddy and said, if you tell anybody about this, I'm not tipping you. Ree, do you know why he said that? Why he wouldn't want people to know he got to, oh, because he had to buy beer for everybody. Yeah, because you got to buy beer. He did not participate in the buying everyone a drink at the bar

that goes with getting a whole one. And I believe it. And I love Nick Saven for that, dude. This is the only positive rumor that came out of this whole thing. That's smart. And that's a ridiculous golf rule as well. Like if you hit a hole in one, you shouldn't have it. It's just the first golfer who hit a hole in one, it was just his playing partners being jealous.

And it was like, oh, well, we want a beer out of it. We want a free beer. Something stupid like that. Yeah, listen, man. I'm all for Nick Saban doing that. But here's where it got good. Also, there's a rumor that Scott Frost went to go land Dominic. Rayola's son, who ended up being a pro ball player.

He was trying to recruit him in Nebraska or something like that. And he texted Dominic, who's like, basically his peer, right? Like same age kind of thing. Thinking they're boys, and he's like, I am way too drunk off margaritas to come do this visit. And they had like 8, 10 kids over or 8, 10 family members, that sort of thing. Needless to say, Dominic flipped and didn't end up in Nebraska. but, or Dominic's son flipped and didn't end up in Nebraska, but Scott Frost, just not being able to handle his liquor. And I kind of, it's funny to me, like, with all this substance of use

and, like, I'm just imagining, you know when you're on a bender as an adult, you guys know what I'm talking about. I do benders better than anybody. Yeah. Through the whole week, I'm not like a nightly drinker, the whole thing I live pretty healthy, but when I'm on a bender, I turn into like the most degenerate version of myself. Like, there's a gene in my family, I think it's just Irish where like you start getting drunk and you're like whatever happens happens like I've decided to be an alcoholic you know when you like fully you're like I'm embracing this doesn't seem so bad these coaches are doing that out on the road like at recruiting visits at symposiums I'm just imagining you know you're paying these guys and I don't think pro coaches are doing this is my because they don't have as much freedom. The God complex is a little bit smaller. They don't have the reins as much.

But I'm imagining like Scott Frost waking up. He's away from his family. He's on a work trip. And he's just on a bender, dude. These guys are just like, you're just like me. They just have big responsibilities. And they can't handle them. Or they're like all the untold stories of these coaches that were too fucked up to do

XYZ. They got in an Uber and they gutted it out. Scott Frost couldn't do it. But I'd love to know the, type of things that go on on the road for like Brett Bielma or Scott Frost or really any coaches coach at Nebraska, you know, or Wisconsin or Arkansas, like, you know, just that whole red teams. But yeah, no, like, this is the best one. Allegedly, Mark Mangino at Kansas couldn't wipe his own ass. That part's not a rumor. I'm pretty sure that's true. And would use a towel like

a floss that custodians and sometimes even coaching assistants had to throw away. Okay, so like we got Mark Mangino flossing his giant ass. By the way, Mark Mangino is still around? Alive. He died on the toilet. So maybe a rumor. Right? No, he's just wiping his ass with the, uh, with the towels.

He wasn't shitting into the towel, like the next guy that I'm going to talk about. I'm sorry to hear that. Is Rick Majeris alive by chance? Because that's where we're going. Rick Majeris is dead. Mark Mingino is alive. Yes! We could reach him for comment.

So anyways, yeah, you hit up Mark's agent. Like, hey, there was a Reddit thread. They said you like to floss your ass with a towel. Anyways, I scrolled a little bit, and somebody was like, Rick Majeris has done worse. So needless to say, my interest is. was piqued, I took to Google and found that Rick Majeris was a total fucking nutbag, dude. Unbelievable.

Matt, did you know this? That he was a not bad? Oh, yeah, he had a complete reputation for being like a crazy dude. Okay, so these are some of the best tidbits. He once brought Van Horn to tears after catching him looking at his stats after a loss to arch rival, BYU. Then during the 2001-2002 season, Majeris reported. called Lance Allrid, a backup center who was 75% deaf, quote, a disgrace to cripples.

I mean, this guy is unbelievable. That's not even the best part. Okay, there's poop. There's poop talk here. So Majeris was also a big naked guy. Evidently, like, you know, if you were a player, you had a question for coach. you'd go up to his room knocking a door he'd open the door he'd be butt naked right and like a bigger guy maybe you couldn't see his piece but like still he's naked okay like that's not close your belly's

not closed right like doesn't count so you got to have clothes on rick but like rick would open the door naked uh he'd eat pizza naked like around the guys like you'd offer people a slice of pizza he's just sitting there like buddha they also said like he would wear towels sometimes but then the towels fall off and he would just act like nothing happened and didn't care. Act like nothing happens. Suppose he'd be up at the whiteboard, but naked, like, you know, drawn up game plan. So this is, this is from a Deadspin article. Take it with a grain of salt because Deadspin is, of course, a fucking a burning building

when it comes to journalism. Like, it's not actually a journalistic website. But deadspin article, what happened next still haunts me to this day. This is from a source, and this source has been corroborated with a couple of players that used to play at, you know, wherever he coached, uh, fucking Utah and St. Louis, too. He was running the street to St. Louis. Probably blowing up the bathroom at Kruger's. I didn't even know. So anyways.

Fuck, I could have been at the, the old Worson country club in the sauna with Rick Majeris. You know, like he's just man spreading. But anyways, uh, what happens still haunts me to this day? Majerus took the towel, pulled his pants down, and quickly took a dump into the towel, which he was holding under his ass. This is like while he's doing a game plan at the whiteboard. After he was done, he was part of the towel to wipe, wrapped it up, and handed it back to the manager, and told him to throw it away. The kid looked like a deer in giant Rick Majeris's headlights. The whole room was silent. Rick just pulled his pants up and went back to scout,

never mentioning it or acting like anything out of the ordinary had occurred. So if Rick Majeris lived in my house, he would be like, no, I'm good. I'll stay here. I don't need to get a grandpa above us. Full circle. I mean, I should have just did the towel thing. I mean, unbelievable, man. Unbelievable.

You know, had no idea how much of a sick of some of these guys are. But the Reddit thread is right there for anybody who wants to check it out. Please be my guest. We had some great Twitter content today, social media content, from our friends. at Netflix because they dropped quarterback on Wednesday evening, and we watched it. We had some great behind the scenes video and miced up moments from Patrick Mahomes against Max Crosby and at home when he was talking about if he wanted to play which team he wanted to play between the Bengals and the Bills. Chris, you watched it. Unfortunately, I don't think you were in this

Netflix documentary. No, I'm not that one. I was kind of hoping it would be cool to see me hitting like Kirk Cousins at some point. Right. No, no, I do comedy mostly. What was your takeaway from seeing all these quarterbacks kind of behind the scene, seeing them off the field? So number one, I agree with Peyton Manning, like, at the beginning of the show, and he could certainly say this.

Of course, he's never played like two guard in the NBA or goalie and hockey or something like that. But he said, quarterback is the toughest position to play in major sports. and I agree the more I think about it. You know, like they do have to know everybody's job. You know, we talked to Kenny Pickett today about some of the intricacies and the game plan that he has to know in protection and that sort of thing. I've always seen them be the last one, you know, last one in the building,

first one in, the whole thing. That's kind of who they are. And I think I've had this because of who I am, because of what I've done for a living, I've always had this preconceived notion that they were all pussies, you know? Because like, that's my job, right? Like, the only quarterback that I respect, truly, or could be buddies with would be, like, my quarterback. You know, for me, Sam Braffers is one of my best friends, and I knew he wasn't soft because, I mean, we had a bunch of guys you never heard of playing offensive line, and he was getting just drilled every week. I saw that guy walk out

there getting shot up, couldn't walk going in the game. Coach is telling him to sit. He wanted to go out there and play. And, you know, like watching these guys get hit, the miced up stuff, the cameras now, even with the rule changes, I think these guys are really tough. I think most of them are really tough in a different way. You know, they have to absorb hits. Like my job was to inflict pain and punishment. These guys' jobs are to collect the punishment. And I think that's tougher. Like I really do. I'd much rather be the guy doing the hit and then getting hit. And so like, you know, when Peyton Manning says this is the toughest job in football, I think it's the toughest job in football. I also think it's the job that doesn't get enough credit when it comes to being tough.

You know, you especially look back at some of these like Rich Gannon types, these fucking 90s quarterbacks, these 80s quarterbacks, the shit that they had to play with and deal with. probably wasn't too far off from, you know, any given Sunday and, and, and, uh, Dennis Quaid, right? Randy, was it Randy or Dennis? Dennis. Randy drove, Randy drove the, the plane into the Independence Day thing. Yeah, Randy's cousin Eddie. Yeah. And it's not just physically, it's not just physically tough either.

I think I sort Randy and one of the busing with the boys, uh, pictures from the other night at, uh, at the USC. Were they hanging out with Randy Quaid too? It's on brand for Will. Angelina Jolie's dad was there. Anyways, you know, like these guys are fucking tough, man. And I do think this in spirit is a good thing to do. I think it's interesting. It's a little bit limited because, like, listen,

it kind of read to me as like a hard knocks with player control. What makes hard knocks great is players have no control. Like, you know, like, if you get embarrassed in the coach's office, if you try to invite a girl to Rams camp and you get cut on the spot, like, you can't be like, hey, coach, cut that. You know, like, that guy is going to be on HBO for the rest of his life, okay, doing that embarrassing thing. That's true, but the one part the players still have no control over is their wives wanting to be on the show. No question, right? But you do have some. Like, you could be like, hey, Peyton, like, you know, Brittany was in a little bit too much.

Like Peyton Julie was, you know, she was, she told a little bit too much about my wardrobe speaker. It's like, you can go to Peyton and you have that relationship. And Hard Knocks, like, you're fucked. If you do something, your wife does something, like, it's going to be on there. So I think that does take a little bit of luster off this thing. And I think the guys they pick were different enough. You have the best quarterback in the game, a middling quarterback.

And by that, I mean, I mean that with all due respect, because still a guy can lead you to playoffs and all that stuff. And there's only so many really good ones. he's a guy that occupies a spot before that ledge where you're like, who's my quarterback. So not saying Kirk's no good, but then you got Marriota, who, you know, he's like kind of in that second act in his career, not a starter really, but had a spot, you know, a spot that he could maybe try to earn that position in Atlanta. So you got to see a couple different journeys.

I liked a couple things about it. First and foremost, I love hearing Patrick Mahomes mic up. I tweeted this earlier. he's got a monster inside him. And there's some guys that I play with that have that monster, but it's not a lot. And if a guy has that monster inside him and he's talented, it's like a cheat code.

If a guy has that monster inside him and he's the quarterback, it's a fucking, it's like checkmate, right? Patrick Mahomes is ungodly talented and he's ungodly competitive. I think anything you ever see him in, I think people should be really appreciative of being alive as a sports fan. in this time and place watching Patrick Mahomes compete. Because the way we talk about Jordan, the way we talk about some of the most competitive athletes,

Kobe, you know, LT guys like that, you should talk about Patrick the same way. You know, and we're watching it. And I think recency bias kind of works the other way when it comes to like pitting guys against old players, especially at our age. But when it comes to that competitive fire, nobody's got it like Patrick Mahomes.

And you could see it. standing up to fucking Max Crosby, who was a bad dude in his own right, who was in his shit the first time they played Vegas last year, two sacks the first half. He's grabbing onto him. He's dancing with him after the throw. He's just annoying him. And I used to do shit like that to quarterbacks, too.

So I know how they get. Usually it's not the way Patrick got. And Patrick scrambles in the end zone. And you picked the wrong motherfucker was what I heard. My hair stood on it and I wanted to play with Patrick Mahomes. I wanted to play football again. I wanted to get into some shit with somebody. It reminded me of somebody I was.

You know what I mean? Just that competitive kind of spirit and that stuff that goes on in a game. You can't put a price on watching best player in the world at his position in the most popular sport in our country, miced up, like letting it lose. And that's what he said. Like when I get to a certain point, I don't even know what I'm saying. And I just a big fan of Patrick Mahomes. And then at the end of the thing, you see him and Crosby make up. They're not making up because, you know, it's in the heat of battle.

You know, love you dog, you're a great player, you know, the whole thing. Go win them. Go win them all. Go win the rest of them. Go lose the rest of them. Whatever you decide to say. But like, it was really cool seeing that mic'd up moment. You want to play with the Patrick Mahomes.

I cannot wait to see the Bengals loss. late in the season, 2320. You know, that was about the time where we started saying, dude, the Bengals own the AFC. Is Joe Burrough the guy? I mean, I can remember people on talk radio making that talking point for a solid week. And I got roped into it a little bit.

I mean, I don't know where I stood on it, but, you know, he's knocking at the door of this whole thing. The Jamar Chase shit talk, the whole thing. I want to see that. I cannot wait. And the way the rivalry starts taking shape. With Kirk, obviously, as a guy who wears Patagonia, it was nice to see him in a short sleep button down plaid. Julie busted out his closet, and it was hilarious, dude.

It was like plaid, plaid, plaid, plaid, plaid, long street plaid, short sleep plaid. Fall plaid, spring plaid. You know, like, you know a man is committed to the plaid craft when he has plaids for different seasons. And I love that. So I love, I love Kirk reading to his kids. you know, you identify with that. They have no idea what you go to work and do every day, like the carnage at work.

And, you know, like when Tom Brady got hit in 2008 and tore his ACL, that's when they enacted the no-hitting players low rule. And daddy's thankful for that. You know, that's real shit. I loved his pond, man. Kirk Cousins has a great pond. Great fire pit set up. But, you know, the psychologist thing was the main thing for me with him.

Like seeing a sports psychologist in the building, quarterbacks need them as much as anybody and defensive ends need them you ever been in a slump where you can't pick up a sack and you're making ten million dollars a year like you need a fucking shrink like Pedro Serrano needed Joe boo like to see to see Kirk talking to that psychiatrist psychologist whatever you want to call it I thought that was really cool because mental health is a part of the game I cannot wait to see the comeback I cannot wait to see him throw short of the sticks on fourth down in that playoff game. I can't see the 4D to 3 ass kicking, which is one of the

worst ones I have ever seen. And knowing Kirk Cousins from what I hear about him, he's an overthinker. Right, he's a really smart guy. It's kind of the book on him. You could see it when he wanted that one throwback from KJ Osborne. And I can totally identify with wanting that one playback.

I cannot wait to see him ruminating after that 37 point loss in Dallas. Actually, he might have been at home. I don't remember. I think it was in Dallas. But And then lastly, like Marcus Marietta, well-liked, man. You can just tell he's well-liked. He seems like a great guy. I met him in Philly when we went up there.

He's the kind of guy when you meet him. You get excited because, you know, you get the brotherhood vibe immediately. Like, he's a guy you respect. He's a guy you'd want to hang out with. He's a guy you'd love having in your locker room. So episode one, just okay. I hit the 10-second button a lot. You know, it kind of plays like hard knocks or something

with a safety net, which is not as exciting for me. me. Here's some guys I'd like to see in 23, Jimmy G. Just follow him around like, you know, after I watch film, I like to bag a porn star, something like that. Like, you know, Aaron Rogers, all the weird shit, he says. Lamar Jackson would be great. Josh Allen, I think this year is going to be a rough year relative to expectation for the bills. And I just think the bumps in the road would be interesting to see. And obviously, Russell. like MPB cribs, here are my bathrooms, like the whole thing. So could you imagine DeShone Watson?

Like he's got one of those fucking Mark Wahlberg schedules. Like, you know, Mark Wahlberg's like, 3 a.m. I do this. 4 a.m. I do this. Like, it's all massage. So I would love to see any one of those guys in 2023 on the next installment of this Omaha Productions Netflix project. Do you think you could ever make a show about that not based on quarterbacks? Like, could you make a defensive end one? Absolutely.

Absolutely. And I'd produce it pretty raw. So maybe that's what we do. Netflix, if you liked what you saw on Sledgehammer. Another thing that these people might like what they see, the Saudi Investment Fund, PIF, they might make a run at, you know, we wanted to know could they make a run at owning an NFL team? They've gotten into soccer.

They've gotten into golf. They're kind of bullying their way further into golf, as we're seeing right now. But do we think on the horizon, maybe the next couple years, they might make a run at the big professional sports in America? Earmarked this. And I say that because of all the major sports. And we've already seen the Saudis do this, like golf, okay? Like obviously global game, high earning game, a lot of money in golf, soccer, global game, high earning game, a lot of money in soccer. They had Ronaldo come play in their.

local league they bought a new castle i think it is um right they've got like you know they've got their irons in the fire same thing with golf obviously that's made a lot of news um you know i think basketball's been talked about we've started to reckon with that f1 is like rich guys for it so they're in f1 the NFL not a global game yet the NFL's been doing the the legwork it's almost like coming in and flipping a business right like the NFL's done a ton of legwork trying to grow the game globally. You can kind of learn from their mistakes. You can kind of use their market evaluations. I think there's a couple ways that the Saudis would go about doing this, and forgive me for not, you know, pouring water on this yet, but like, from a moral standpoint,

but like, I think the NFL, when you look at our athletes are as vulnerable to something like this as any athletes in the world, because our product is so fucking mega, but the players relative to the pie don't get, you know, they don't get the money. And, you know, like, there are going to be some guys that, and also the fact of the matter is a lot of NFL players didn't come from money. So, like, and the same could be true for soccer, maybe not so much golf or F1, but players that didn't grow up with much and aren't getting paid enough and don't have guaranteed contracts, some guy that beheaded journalists, like, you know, I stayed out

of the whole anthem thing, like, what do I care? Like, cut me a check for. $20 million. Like, they don't care. I think, honestly, the NFL is in trouble when it comes to nut cutting time when these folks come over and, A, try to buy a team, which I think they would willingly probably go along with, even though the NFL is the league that's most juxtaposed to this culturally, at least on the surface, right? We have military appreciation month. We do 9-11 out the wazoo every year. Like, you know, there's a straight line. to the Saudi government.

And, you know, like the ripple effect is the sports washing, right? And you're going to be a part of it. But the NFL loves money more than anything. And if these owners who are loaded with cash want to buy a team, I can't see these guys being like, nah, you can't buy a team. Especially considering they probably raised the fee to the point where it would cost so much to get in on the action that only the Saudi kind of folks can buy a team. If you know that internationally,

we're trying to put four teams in Europe or that sort of thing, and you want new owners, you want the richest owners in the world. And so if you raise that threshold, you're going to profit more because the owners get a cut of that entry fee. So, like, there's a ton of reasons why I think the NFL is vulnerable.

There's also a ton of reasons why I think the NFL probably at some point is going to get involved with these people. They're obsessed with, expansion. And they're obsessed, they're obsessed with like embedding themselves into our own culture. Like one business deal that they were trying to make that I thought was interesting was with WWE. It's not like WWE is this huge money-making thing, but it's like a part of American culture in a uniquely American way, much like American football, obviously. Yeah, they're almost like

putting on like a redneck mask and like rolling up and being, hey y'all. Like, Check out my new sports league. You know, like, they're trying to, they're like infiltrating us, like men in black. You know? And before you know it, Saudis are going to have their hands in everything sports-wise. I mean, because I have yet to see a situation yet. I've yet to see a situation yet. I have yet to see a situation in sports, in business.

I mean, like you see them every once in a while, but they don't make the news, where people choose the right thing over money. Yeah. It just never fucking happens. And that's the older I've gotten, the more I've learned that. And the older I've gotten, the more I've learned that I have tough decisions to make, you know, like sponsors, that sort of thing, like people that I don't want to associate with based on. But at the end of the day, like, when, when, when to steal a phrase from Dr. Fax, like, money talks. And even in situations where I've had like a decision to make where it was very black and white, it was very moral, amoral, A or B. be, you think about it. Even me, and I don't fucking care that much about money anymore, you know, you give it a good, hard look, and that's what's going to happen. I think some of these guys are either going to jump to play in whatever league they're going to have in five, 10 years, or they're going to come and own a team, and before you know it, we're going to, you're going to be aliens among us. And they already have a number of, like, American kind of

Culture, they have a big investment in EA, like electronic arts and Uber. Yeah, there you go. Almost $6 billion in both those. Yeah, they host the biggest e-sports games. So they literally have like kids from America, actually from all over the world coming and playing in contest for the Saudi public investment fund of various video games. So they're reaching like kids as young as possible. Crazy. Crazy.

Total rebrand. Yeah, this is going to be a thing. another thing that we want to know if it will be a thing is what's going on in foxborough will is bill bellichick can can you know hold on to your butts here but is he on the hot seat yes he's on the hot seat it's it's interesting dude it's like it's one of those things it's like you just can't imagine i don't remember going back like did red hourback get fired did phil jackson get fired did did like, you know, did Tom Landry get fired? Like all these legendary coaches, at some point, most times, like, they get fired.

Like, John Wooden, I'm pretty sure, just died. And they were like... Red Hourback gave the job to Bill Russell and became the GM. Yeah, like, there's usually, like, an exit strategy. But that's because most of these coaches have other interests. Okay? Most of these coaches want to do other shit. And, like, towards the end of their life, they're like,

you know what? Maybe I would like to go sit on a dock somewhere or fucking... Bill could go coach lacrosse sleep in stay up late coach lacrosse yeah something but but Bill I cannot see him exiting the building if he's given a choice like like you know I'm just going to exit stays left or he's definitely not going to become the GM because people don't like his personnel moves Robert Kraft has made comments he's made comments there's some barbs thrown back and forth about spending um craft talked about them needing to make the playoffs this year Bill's 25 and 25 since Brady left.

And listen, I've said it a number of times. Like, he's the goat. In my opinion, he's the goat. But when you have Mike Vic on a podcast this week or whatever was, talking about Andy Reid possibly being the goat, and then you start looking at the numbers and you start looking at the context, like Bill in the 10 years without Brady is sub-500. He's got two playoff appearances.

Of course, you're including 08 in that scenario where he had to roll out Matt Castle. And they won 10 games. But that's respectable, right, without Brady, you know, in some of these other situations, on some of these other teams, like this is kind of the growing pains that coaches go through. But it does, it kind of begs the question, like, is Andy Reed in the hemisphere? Because Andy Reid's been to like five championship games. He's now won two Super Bowls. He's done it with different quarterbacks.

He had Alex Smith cooking. He had Donovan McNabb. He's had a number of guys that he's won with. And Bill's one with one guy, really. So, like, it's a fair conversation. I don't think it's an asinine take. It's not one that I'd be like, that's the hottest take in the world,

but, like, Andy Reid's on his tail. And I don't know how much Andy Reid's going to coach anymore, but if I have Patrick Mahomes, I'm pretty much going to coach you until Patrick Mahomes retires. And so, like, what happens when Andy has four Super Bowls? What happens? And here's another thing. Bill's 30 games short of the all-time record for wins.

he's also 13 games short of the all-time record for losses. Tom Landry's up there, Jeff Fisher's up there. Who else was up there? There was Dan Reeves. So listen, there's some good coaches that you don't lose a lot unless you're really good. You're not going to stick around that long, especially in modern football. But all this going on, it kind of feels like the twilight zone, man. No Brady.

You had Matt and Joe. doing the offense. Robert was pissed about that. So it kind of feels like a standoff. And I got to tell you, like as much as Belichick wanted to prove he could win without Brady, as much Brady wanted to prove he could win without Belichick, Kraft wants to win without both those motherfuck. You know, and it's funny because the very thing that he implemented might be the thing that buries him. And that's a culture that doesn't put anything above the team. Not a person, not a deity, not a Hall of Famer, not anything. If it ain't worth working, you can't be there. And that's what Bill built. Robert didn't build that. He stood by and backed him up on it. But now it's a situation where you got to take

Bill out back, you know, maybe. And it's just crazy to me. So the question I have for you guys is, is he going to break the record with the pads? One, and two, if he's not, where do you want to see him break the record? Because he can't be done after the Pats. He's not going to retire before he breaks that record. I don't think he will break it with the Pats. I mean, again, like you said, Karef made it pretty clear. It's playoffs or see you later this season.

And then you look at that division, that's got to be the worst division to try to be a wildcard team this season. And then you look at the AFC as a whole. It's going to be tough sledding for them. So this, yeah, I don't know if it'll, I don't see it happening there, but I certainly don't think Bill will retire. It's just surreal, man. You know, like if you had told me at some point, his seat would be hot. And it is.

I think it's real heat. I'm not sure. Like, listen, if they win 10 games this year, I think it's enough. If they win nine games, slide in the wild card or, like, you know, they probably won't slide in the wild card in nine games. But if they win nine, 10 games, like, maybe they're in that kind of like, yeah. I think the O'Brien thing was all Robert Kraft. So the O'Brien thing shows some promise. Like maybe we have another year, that sort of thing.

Here's my short list of where I think Bill should spend the last couple years of his career. Okay. And some people are going to hate some of these teams on here. But I just went with like whose coaches seats are hot or will be hot in the next two years. And maybe a place that Bill would be attracted to for a number of reasons. It could be personnel or it could be like nostalgic. Okay, like I'll throw the Browns in my top five because, yeah, you finish what you started, that whole thing. Although I don't think Bill's the guy that ever wants to give us a storybook ending.

So I don't think the Browns are going to be enough. And depending on what he thinks about Deshaun Watson, you know, I think he's going to be there longer than Stefansky. And, you know, the Packers, a lot of history up there. You could see that going belly up in the next couple years. Who knows? Maybe they're going to be better than people think. Shout out Scotty Trill. Our boy, he thinks they're going to be really good this year.

Stanford Steve also likes the Packers. The commanders, okay? Think about him in D.C. after work being able to go to, like, the mall, like, the national mall. Just go stare at A. Blinken, like, fucking, you know, like, go to a museum, go rowing at the Naval Academy. He loves the Navy. It's, like, right there. So, like, I think the commanders could be fun. Bill could check out some lacrosse in D.C. my number one and probably a dark horse, but my number one, hear me out on this.

McDermott seats hot. Okay? Like, Sean McDermott sees hot, right? Like, people are getting a little bit tired of that whole thing there. If this year doesn't go well, they could be talking about moving on from Sean McDermott. And a lot of this is fantasy land. So if somebody's listening to this and they're like, ooh, we're thinking shit up here. But like, could you imagine, Bill, in division, couldn't be the Jets, he don't want coach for the Jets, he's not a Miami guy,

your guy's going to be there for a little bit down there, McDaniel, he's a pretty good coach. You get to see New England twice a year, you get a big physical quarterback, a little quarterback run game, cold weather up on the Canadian border there, try to whip up on the Pats twice a year. That would be must-see TV. It would be. For the record, this whole discussion. I don't think he's on the hot sea. I think he'll retire with the all-time wins record with the Patriots as his last team.

I say he's going to hit the losses record in New England. Well, maybe not, because if this year doesn't go well, he's not going to lose 13 times. They're going to be that bad. But I do think he breaks the record somewhere else. Yeah. And I don't know. I think it's just kind of like July NFL news and that the real problem there is the quarterback, not the coach.

It's true, but when you talk to people up there, they feel like the seat's hot. I'm not talking about players, but just former players, media members. They did pay Gerard Mayo a lot, which maybe was to keep them off the coaching market, you could argue. That's interesting. So Cadarius, Tony, was in the news big time because he probably didn't use the best exit strategy from the hot water he got himself into. He released, there were some voice notes released of him talking about some Giants fans.

And his plan to get him out of this predicament was to say that he got hacked. Even though his voice, his voice notes were released. They were straight up voice notes and not text messages. How badly did he botched this cover up? Man, well, he went full speed like ahead into the cover up. There was no, well, I'm a rapper. My voice is out there. Well, like, honestly, his voice isn't really out there because, like, he's kind of an auto-tune guy.

It's, like, kind of that whole future thing. His name actually is, I listen to some of his music, Young Joka, Young Joka. His new album's called Road to Riches, which I think is great, because most people, they name their albums Rags to Riches. I like Road to Riches. The two songs I really like off the album are slime life and SRT. The guy's voices out there. He's a famous football player.

He's sending hateful voice notes. He's at 3 a.m. He's answering DMs. By the way, he doesn't sound too fucked up for 3 a.m. So, hats off to him, like, getting back from the club and being like, I think I'm just going to bury this Giants fan. It started with him dissing the Giants on Instagram. Like, he gets on Instagram. He shoots a really cool video.

It's the coolest fucking video I've ever seen. Like, his chain, his gold teeth. and he like he like put himself in the shadows and like all you can see was his gold teeth moving in his chain it was fucking awesome but he was dissing the giants obviously he was there last year and so fans are getting on his ass and he decides to fight back a little bit i think the only thing cadarious young joker should do in this situation is and there's only one option is put out a disc record, a Giants' disc record. Young Joka, get in the lab, I'll produce it, we can go, you know, like Eagles fans, listen, little olive branch here, because you don't like the Giants.

I know you don't like the Chiefs right now, but you don't like the Giants. I think we get some streams in the Philadelphia area, okay? I wrote a rap. This can be terrible, but I wrote it. I'm a ghost right. young joker you ready just got off the phone they paid daners jones he throw none but slants shit yo khaki pants you can't beat the eagles i can beat the eagles i got so many vehicles vehicles vehicles no he would do that he would definitely rhyme vehicles with eagles dable fake he see-through

hold on heyvon don't know l t think he needs a c t i fuck hose it i've fuck hoes at the Hyatt you drafted Jalen Hyatt hold on Paris Campbell has a neck beard Hodgian's head is real weird Joe shown is a simpleton who the fuck is Khalil pimpledon so anyways can you put a beat behind that oh easily easily we'll make that we'll make it rock okay so I don't know I don't know what dable It's fake.

He's see-through. Oh, vehicle. It's supposed to rhyme with vehicle. So anyways, young joker. Holler at me, man. We can lay a track, dude. I like the pronunciation of Joe Shane's name. That was to make it work.

It's Shane, but you made it work. I always fuck his name up. Joe Shane. Yeah, no. Joe Shane is a simpleton. Who the fuck is Khalil Pimpley. Actually, it works a little bit better. Yeah.

With his normal name. All right. So that's going to be the end of our show. I know it was a long one, but hadn't seen y'all in a while. A lot of catching up to do. I hope you enjoyed. We will be back Tuesday. Makin got his own guest.

He got to see how the sausages made. I know he's probably exhausted from working the phone lines. It should be a good show. It's an NFL insider. Come back next week and spend time with your boys. Thursday, you're going to have the tin cup review. And then the next week, we're back to normal. Okay?

So I'll probably talk to you all next week.