Green Light with Chris Long - Kevin O'Connell! Justin Jefferson, Coaching Mentality & Vikings Camp. Mailbag with Kyle Long & Beau Allen & Grid Game

Episode Date: August 17, 2023

(2:40) - Intro (6:05) - Kevin O'Connell on Justin Jefferson and Jordan Addison's Cohesion, Comeback vs the Colts in 2022, Coaching Mentality in Close Games, Working with Other Head Coaches in Preseason Games and Creating Culture in Minnesota (25:27) - Mailbag: Favorite Teammates, Worst Backfired Moments, Jim Irsay's Band and Most Exploited Individuals (1:20:21) - Chris Long and Kyle Long Play the NFL Grid Game, Listen to the Fellas Scrape their Minds to Complete the Grid This podcast is brought to you by Cash App. With multiple tools for saving, spending, and sending, Cash App is the easy way to stay in control of your money. Cash App is a financial platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App's bank partner(s). Make sure to check out Fax and the King every Wednesday on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@FaxAndTheKing Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I heard about a couple of your pranks back in the day. Yeah, there were a few. Hey, you sound like you would have been a hell of a teammate. You know, I had a bunch of really good ones in my short career, but it sounds like you would have been right up there at the top, man. I heard the same about you, man. A lot of people speak really highly of you. I know we were in the same draft class and all that, so it's crazy.

And look at us now. That's what I was going to say. This is going to be my first question. I mean, you know, now I'm a podcaster. you're an NFL head coach. Where did it go wrong for you? You know, like you could have been a podcaster. I can tell you that somewhere along the way I did go wrong to have.

I think you're probably sleeping a little bit better than me these days. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. Skull. Welcome to all you Vikings fans that are shown up for head coach Kevin O'Connell today. Chris and Kevin will kick things off with a great conversation about football coach's mentality, what he brought from the Rams and the other coaching stops he's had along the way. His mentality in coaching the preseason when he talks to other coaches. Do they want to run the twos against the twos?

Who do they want to see in which games? How he addresses that with the other team's head coach. He also talks about the fact Justin Jefferson's taking a mentorship role in Jordan Addison's career, even though Justin Jefferson's only been in the league a couple years himself. A great football conversation with a great mind in Minnesota. Chris was already high on the Vikings this season, but now he's jumping on the over eight and a half win total.

After Kevin, it's a good old. fashion mailbag, we bring in Kyle into Studio J and Bo joins Studio J remote and we cover everything. We talk about being cool, but when it backfired, we talk about favorite teammates, most exploited people. And also we find out about Jim Ursa's band. That's right, he's got a good sounded voice. Listen to the whole mailbag to hear it yourself. And then at the end, we play the NFL grid game. Chris and Kyle look at an NFL grid on Pro Football reference and try to guess the players that match. I'm sure you'll be yelling players names out that we should have guessed. There's one in particular that we should have nailed down.

You'll hear it at the end of the show. Y'all enjoy yourselves. We'll catch you next week. All right, welcome to the show. Today's going to be a little bit different. I am white. It's 9.30 at night. We just finished a mailbag that you're going to hear in a little bit.

I think you'll really like it. It's Kyle, myself, and Beau. We kept it short and sweet today. We got Kevin O'Connell, head coach of the Minnesota Vikings. my takeaways from interviewing him for just 15, 20 minutes. I get it. You know, sometimes you have these coaches on, and you're like, yeah, they're cool,

but, you know, they've got to be able to coach ball. Like, I know this guy can coach ball, and in talking to him for 15 minutes, it's pretty damn cool, too. Seems like the kind of guy that you want to play hard for. You know, not a guy you're afraid of, but a guy that you want to play hard for. He's 38.

He's a young man. So, you got to, to pull different strings. You know, if you want to be a head coach in the NFL and your younger guy, I think he does a great job of it. You'll enjoy it. I got to bet the Vikings every year. It's just the thing I do. I got to bet the win total over under. And it's always been easy to, you know, just make a call and stick with it. But I don't think the more I'm kind of making friends with these NFL coaches and the GMs and people, we've made some really good connections with, you know, people have said, hey, y'all got some good guests lately. And I'm like, yeah, I know,

makes my job easy. These guys are doing a great job booking guys. But the way it works is you get to know these media people at the different teams and that sort of thing. And if they like the interview, they sent their guy for the last time. They'll send more. I'm getting close with some of these departments. I don't want to be talking about betting their under win total.

Shout out, John, from the Vikings. Appreciate you. Yeah. I'm not going to bet the Vikings under wind total. I just can't. I feel a kinship with Kevin O'Connell, Class O'8. Um, so enjoy that interview. Enjoy the mailbag.

Um, I'll give you a dude, somebody sent this one in. Is it natural for some friends to grow apart? How do you handle knowing someone who you previously spent a lot of time with? No longer aligns with your goals and wants. How to respectfully let them know that the friendship isn't serving you anymore without being a dick. Just start a podcast with them. Uh, I didn't know making was going to come up in the open today. Uh, but we,

We answer all type of your questions here. I mean, this one I'm not going to answer. I mean, the obvious answer is, you know, did you get married at some point? Look back at your wedding. Look back at the guest list. How many people are you still close with? Things change, man. You know, you don't even have to talk about it.

You don't have to have a sit down. You just start ignoring the person's text or avoiding them. Like when you see them in a supermarket, act like you're on the phone, that type of thing. It's really not complicated. Mailbags coming up will tackle. lot of issues. Enjoy the show. And again, sorry for being short today, but I had a very secretive trip that I took that I might be able to tell you guys more about maybe in a week or two. Either way. Could be good, could be bad. It's all I'll say. So there's keeping you on the

edge of your seats. You know, Pat McAfee's always like, got a big announcement. And then he's like, you know, running for president or something. Like, it's not going to be the thing. It's not going to be that big. But yeah, stick around. Okay, here's Kevin O'Connell and a mailbag. Coach, you know, last year, I've been on teams like this where just every game's close. And they end up breaking your way some years, some years they don't. What do you think was the separating factor for y'all? I know coaches get up there and they show guys like, hey, penalties do this, turnovers do this. If we take care of the ball, this happens. But what do you think it was about your team that allowed you to win those close

games? Yeah. So, Chris, when I really came in here early on, you know, I was coming off of, you know, our Super Bowl year in L.A. where we won some close games. I mean, it really wasn't a, it really wasn't an easy road. We had to deal with adversity. I didn't win a game that year in the month of November. So the first thing I wanted to do is just kind of assess the overall you know, football mindset to just winning in general. And this team had done some good things. I felt strongly about the potential leadership on the roster on both sides of the ball, really. But when I dove into it, I saw a team that for whatever reason, and I do believe, and you know this, that some years it can go your way, some years it tends to be harder than others when it comes to winning,

close games. But I do believe in as a coach, it's my responsibility to make it part of our football philosophy and to put these guys in positions so that with the work we do long before we ever get in those moments, at least at the, you know, at the very least, my job is to force our guys to feel some of those moments and some of those stressful moments by how we talk about what we're going to do in those moments, but then how we practice and coach off of those moments as they arise, both not only for our team, but we do it for the whole league throughout the whole season. Anything we can learn from and apply to our clock management, apply to our decision making, how we go about moving the football with or without timeouts, with or without

a ton of time. So ultimately, what I want is, you know, our players in those moments to just have a quieted mind and just be ready to go play and not worry and not think about the what ifs or have any sort of confusion in their minds. And we were able to kind of have some early success with that, early buy-in, because the team had been in quite a few one-score games that had gone the other way previously. So in my thought, it was if we could just improve a little bit at the end of the first half and then be just much better at the end of games, finishing those out. If we did it once, maybe there was a mindset of we could do it twice,

and three times, and inevitably, it just kept coming up, and we found ways to do it. Yeah, I was just talking to Patrick Peterson about this, and I mentioned the same thing, and he said, well, coach was real good at situational football. And, you know, I think that's a big key, obviously. One of my favorite games to watch last year that you guys played in was the indie game. And I know for a while it probably wasn't a lot of fun to coach that game, but I'm wondering what you said to the guys at halftime, what you had up your sleeve. Because 28 to 3, I don't know what Bill said. I don't know what he told us at the half.

I don't remember. Do you remember what you said to those guys at the end of that game? Or in the middle of that game? Yeah, I'm glad you brought up Pat because I just remember walking in the locker room. And as I was getting ready to maybe not say very many pleasant things to my coaching staff, I remember just overhearing right over my left shoulder, Pat P yelled down to Kirk. All we got to do is score five. times. And I was like, and in my mind, I'm like, you know, you know, pissed off. You're saying to yourself,

oh, shit, we got to do a hell of a lot more than that. But then when I sat with the coaches and I really looked at kind of what I, you know, what did we attempted to do? And just the fact that we flat out just were beating ourselves. Not taking anything away from the first half that the Colts had. But it was just about, you know, checking all of where we were at from a standpoint of our mindset and just saying, hey, we can't score five times without scoring once. And when we score that first time, it's probably the way our systems are built, especially offensively. There's normally plays off of some things that we can get to.

I just knew that the momentum would swing back our way. We would just be fighting against time being such a significant margin that we had to overcome. And when we scored that first time, there was zero kind of like, it was really like, such a workman approach from our team of there's one. Then we got to stop. There's two. Then we got to stop. There's three.

And then the greatest thing about it, Chris, is adversity wasn't over at that point. We had a fourth quarter turnover. We picked up a fumble. We also picked up a fumble for a touchdown that was ruled that they stopped to the forward progress and it wasn't even a turnover, which was two for that day. So there was every excuse in the world, Chris, you can imagine of us saying, you know what, It's just our day. We'll rally the troops and we'll come back next weekend and try to win the division.

It just made it that much sweeter just to see a lot of the things that you preach from a culture standpoint, a football philosophy standpoint, no greater example of it all coming together than that day. And it just so happened to be the day we won the division. So it means the world to me, and I'm glad you know, you notice how hard that is to do because a lot of things got to have to go right. but as I told our team, there's still going to be adversity. And all gains are significant gains when you're down by that much. There's no such thing.

I gain a four on a first down inside zone play is a positive. You know, a third down conversion on a third and five at midfield. It might not put a point on the board, but it's a positive and it's momentum. And it's one more chance for us to potentially apply pressure to the other side and then get that game close. And then once we got it close, we knew. you know, the advantage was on our side with our experience leading up to that moment. So you made a lot of moves in the off season, you know, like obviously you love these guys that you had to make decisions on.

Big Z, one of the best, stealing, like all these guys, Eric Kendricks played with Mike and Philly. Great people, great players. What was the hardest decision you had to make? I know you probably say, hey, they were all tough, but I know when you're putting together a football team, there are some positions that are really important. what were the toughest decisions you had to make this offseason? Yeah, first and foremost, we don't win. Me as a first year head coach, I will never use the word I.

We don't win those 13 games without every single name that you just mentioned and a whole bunch of others. The worst part of this job is the fact that it's hard to manage an organization and a roster from a standpoint of how the Minnesota Vikings have to do it. we can't do it a year at a time. If we do it a year at a time, you know, we will be behind in the end as we try to build something sustainable. So there were a lot of hard conversations, but Chris, I can tell you the only way I know how to deal with them is to treat each individual one as its own with the amount of respect and admiration that all those players deserve to try to communicate all the way down

to when if there was a final decision made, if there was some collaborating with that player of if we could do anything to help those guys. And me personally, I can think back to having conversations, you know, with Adam Thielen and with some of our other guys, even all the way up until Davin Cook recently about, you know, those guys asking me what I thought they should do or where, you know, even they were no longer Vikings, but they still cared for my opinion because I told them, I will forever cherish the relationships I had with those players. And ultimately, that has been, and will continue to be the hardest part of my job. As a former player, without nearly the success of a lot of the players you just named,

it was always hard to leave that locker room, you know, leave my guys in there. And when you put together something where culture matters and the locker room matters, and I have so much respect for, you know, the relationships our players form with each other, that's the first thing I always think about is just how hard it's going to be to show up to work for not only myself, but a lot of our guys without some of those great players that have done so much for this organization, albeit for a year like Cedarius or Adam Thielen, who had played here 10 years and, you know, what an unbelievable story and left his mark, Dalvin Cook, Eric Kendrick. I mean, the list goes on and on.

And, you know, every example of our team success, Chris, last year, I can attribute it to, you know, each one of those guys and what they were willing to, you know, commit to being a part of in my first year. doing this and there's nothing i'm more proud of than the fact that we will that that year we had will always be with me and those players will always carry the most utmost respect that i have for them because of what they were willing to do for me the one guy i was worried about because he's one of my favorite players to watch is hunter and i you know there were rumors what's going to happen with him and the whole thing and i wondered if he was going to get offloaded another tough decision but you guys bring him back and it's kind of an

abnormal kind of circumstance. I feel like the contract is one you don't see a lot in that range for that kind of player, the length of the deal, that sort of thing. What were you guys thinking and getting it done that way? And how important is he to your defense? Very important. A player of DeNeil's caliber. I think one of the things that I'm really proud of through this whole thing is the way DeNeil being the great player. he's been for so long and will continue to be. But, Chris, there was a lot of conversations between him and I throughout the process, especially as it got down towards the end where I felt like him and I grew really close through this. It's amazing what being honest and just being

willing to, you know, willing to be vulnerable and kind of talk things out and try to find a workable solution where maybe I don't have the complete authority to just, you know, meet with DeNeil and let's figure this out together. He's got representation. We have. We have a have, you know, a great GM and a lot of support on the personnel side that really handle those things. But what I was most excited about was just the fact that right now when, you know, I see DeNeal Hunter walk in the halls of this building, it fires me up. And he's excited to be here. And I think he's going to have one of the best years that he's had in his career, which is saying something considering the career he's had up until this point. And as I told him, although you might be

on a one-year deal. I want you to have the mindset that you're going to give me every opportunity to try to have more of those conversations again. After you go, you know, you go wreck the game for the other side of a whole heck of a lot this year, I'm going to be scratching and falling and try to see if we can make this thing go for a heck of a lot longer than just 17 plus more games, if you know what I mean. No question. With the preseason, I always wanted to ask a coach.

I figured I wait until I talked to a coach for my draft class. This is a hard-hitting question. do y'all know who the hell's going to play week to week? Because, you know, we're always in the dark and preseason has changed from when we were rookies. Like, you know, the whole setup is different. So I'm wondering, you know, if you're going to play Bill, your old coach in week three of the preseason, maybe he's not the right example. But are you going to have a conversation with another coach and be like, hey, you guys running the twos through the first quarter, the second quarter type of thing? Because I think it's really important to know, like, you know, not only the guys you

want to get work, but who you want them to get work again. How's that dance happen in the preseason with head coaches? Yeah, it's a good question. Sometimes there's conversations. Sometimes there's not. Sometimes it's, hey, let's just compete and have fun. And, you know, I tend to, Chris, because the joint practices are so important, just having that slight, you know, control over, you know, the extreme circumstances

of competing against another organization, doing it on the practice field with, you know, your ones versus their ones. And being able to work particular situations, third down, red zone, two minute. I think it allows you to get the most out of those days, those reps, and then what it does, it also keeps your team fresh. Because you can go two days hard in a row, two and a half hours competing. And then if those guys aren't playing, they can recover and then do it again and again. And then as the grind of training camp that you may remember used to set in,

player like yourself is shifting your mindset towards, yeah, shoot, I got to play two and a half quarter from this third preseason game. But really what I'm thinking about is like for the Minnesota Vikings, September 10th against Tampa Bay Buccaneers, I think there's always been a confliction there for players, especially of your caliber, you get into your career. From a sports performance, a sports science standpoint, I can lay out a plan that regardless of circumstance will be affected to get our guys ready to play. that we need to get ready to play. And the best part about it is the player development

of our twos and threes. And they literally come out of training camp sometimes with 30, 40, 50 more reps than they would have at another organization that doesn't, you know, take advantage of the opportunity of resting some of their guys and playing their development guys. Or maybe it's somebody, a veteran, trying to make the team show what he can do.

But as far as the communication with other coaches, if I call somebody and they say, hey, we're playing our ones for three quarters. We're having a throwback game back to when you and I first came in the league. You know, that's not going to change my mind. It'll just be a heck of a challenge for our twos and threes to go compete. And, you know, you'd love to win every game you ever have your team, you know, suit up for.

But inevitably, we're looking for, you know, marginal gains and improvement of a daily variety of our football team leading into September 10th. Jordan Addison, talented guy. You've got probably the best receiver in football if I'm going by Madden ratings. 99 overall and Justin Jefferson. Two-part question, how's Jordan doing? And how's Justin doing being the vet? Right?

Because Thielen Lee and now this guy who's otherworldly, he was just a rookie, he's got to be the guy to pass on the knowledge. How's that relationship and how is Jordan doing? Yeah, Jordan's doing fantastic. You know, everything that, you know, I spent a lot of time in the draft process, really watching him previously at Pittsburgh and then at USC watching him kind of play a different style of offense, different route tree. But what I learned quickly about him was the things that mean a lot to me, body control, change direction, your ability to play fast, but still have a level of explosiveness mixed with a smooth factor that a lot. allows you to be totally and completely in control of all the things that we're asking you to do, catches the football really well, and ultimately is, you know, he's a quiet guy, but when he steps

in between the white lines, you can tell there's nothing he loves more than playing football, which just still happens to be very similar. Maybe not the quiet guy part, but those types of, you know, attributes and makeup of stepping in the white lines and competing like crazy, that's Justin Jefferson in its pure form. I do believe you're probably, you know, probably accurate on your assessment of where he sits in professional football, not just in the matting rankings, but I tend to agree with you. But I think the coolest thing for me has been watching Justin assume an Adam feeling-like role that he, that relationship he had with Adam, and I give Adam so much credit.

And really, Adam deserves a ton of credit for how successful JJ has been from the jump. Because every single meeting, Adam is right next to JJ in that meeting. those two guys talking about their craft, installing plays, hey, hey, coach, you know, if Justin's running that route and I'm over here on this one, you know, are you okay if I do it like this and maybe my, you know, get a little more depth or maybe speed it up a little bit, whatever it is? And we had that collaboration kind of in year one that helped our offense be what it was. Well, now I have Justin Jefferson sitting next to Jordan Addison every single day.

And I'm already seeing JJ paint it forward like Adam did. for him, and I'm sure Adam had, whether it was Diggs or anybody else that was here early on in Adam's career or at least during his tenure here. I think that we, you know, I know I owe a lot to Keenan McArdle, our receiver coach, having a 17-year former really baller at the position running that room with the command he has, but yet, I mean, nobody loves his players more than Keen and McArdell. So to have that type of role model for those guys coaching them, but then also, like, Justin's experience with Adam now pouring over to Jordan. Don't forget about KJ Osborne.

He's kind of, you know, he's such an important part of what we do. And then we've got some really nice pieces also in the room from a young guy standpoint to guys like Brandon Powell, Jalen Rager and Jalen Naylor, all of which are competing like crazy to not only make our team, but to make that receiver group one of the best in the NFL,

which I feel very strongly about. Coach, I appreciate the time, wishing you all the best luck. and take care of Tyler for me, all right, ma'am? Yeah, yeah. You know, we haven't had any vets pull the, you know, the trick you did with the D.Bs, you know, how they've got across the street.

I'm sure you've told that story before. They wouldn't know what hit them. If you haven't told it, you're great listeners, they need to hear that story because he's kind of had me rolling hearing that one. Yeah, we've gone to the well a few times on that one. They know what you're talking about. I bet.

All right. Well, Coach, I appreciate the time, man. Best of luck. Hope you come back after Big. win, all right? Yeah, thanks, man. Always been a big fan of you, your brother, your pops, everybody. Thanks a lot. Football royalty in our league, man. Thanks a lot. Yeah, keep kicking ass, coach. I'll talk to you. This podcast is brought to you by Cash App. The easy way to send, spend, save, and keep your money safe. It's great because no matter how hard life gets,

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what is the worst instance of trying to look cool and it instantly backfiring on you this is from your personal life oh you want to do you have anything i got one that's okay i don't know you remember when we would do pregame warm ups in philly chris we kind of end it we do a little pass rush move on the on the goalpost there and then right before we run over yeah it's such a pointless thing yeah and then we would always run over to do like one-on-ones or something right after that it's on the other side of the field and for whatever reason part of my routine i want to show off my ups i would always like hit a pass rush move a club rip action and then like jump and act like I was dunking on the goalpost and it was sweet I thought it was so athletic big boy getting up there you did you touch

the goalpost hell yeah bro I was dangling from that bitch I'm not trying to be disrespectful but in reality go on I'm picturing this right now and there was one game where I like could not get up could not even fucking touch the bottom of the goalpost didn't even try missed it completely first try reloaded the jump and jump from two feet like I was going to just flat foot it dunk and missed it again and then just jogged off in front of like bizum-d-you-just thought you didn't try hard enough on the first time that's the problem all the famous people are down in the end zone where the d-line warms up in philly too so there's like pressure to look cool Mike trout was not amused no Mike trout nobody is cooler than an NFL player pre-game our guy DJ premiere you haven't got beat yet yeah

Like you're just out there styling and profiling. Yeah. Even though. I actually feel, honestly is a good topic because I feel terrible in pregame. Really? Dude, I always felt like I was like, I don't know, uncomfortable. Yeah, everything's too tight, white. The clothes are too dry.

My socks are perfect. Like, you know, I feel weird. I'm not, Tortole hasn't kicked him. Maybe that's fine. Gotcha. Honestly, just thinking through it out loud. but I go in and like just pour water on myself because you never know if you have to poop or pee like you're like man what is this weird sensation it's just your nerves nothing worse am i about to ship my pants

nothing worse than having to poop during the game oh i mean nothing worse yeah you got to get it you got you got to get it all out yeah i've seen guys just go what do you mean watch men poop no i'm saying just they just go they just let it happen uh you definitely play with the guy who shit himself to her. Yeah, for sure. Accidentally. You know, you see that spot. You start seeing spots.

Yeah. And dots. Okay, so in middle school, there was one day where mom or dad couldn't take me in. So the were going to drive me in. And I found this out. This is a great family across the street. I knew I was going to ride to school with the girls. And I was all fired up.

And I was like, you know, what am I going to wear tomorrow to school? I must have been sixth grade, fifth grade. Mm-hmm. And dad was like, you got to tuck your shirt. and I'll show you a trick about tucking your shirt in. You can tuck your shirt into your underwear and it'll never come out. So when I got out of the carpool line at St. Ann's,

I got out and my underwear must have been like six inches up out of my pants. And I think, like, hey, Kyle, you should fix your shirt. He did. He was like, let me show you how to look cool as he loads you up in the car with a mullet. He was doing his fucking underwear up to your third button. Yeah. He was like, I'm trying to do me a solid,

and I must have fucked it up. There must have been a technical era. my head. Go in there and quote Howard the Duck, which we watch constantly in our house. All the other kids will know Howard the Duck. I couldn't even quote that. You always reference Howard the Duck.

Fuck, we were watching it, dude. You were older than me, though. Yeah. A little beastiality on that one. I don't even know. Shame, too. She was a real dime. There was some bad cartoon characters, though.

We've talked about this on the pod. Scary. scariest cartoon character? Let me tell you about the scariest cartoon character of all time, Kyle, the fucking Pussin' boots wolf. Really? Oh, my God. If anybody's

seen Pussing Boots, as a grown man, I was afraid. But I think it's hype. Spoiler alert that that they didn't end in like a battle royale one of them loses. Like, death was just like, all right. Yeah, he just left. Yeah, he was like, you're right. You're cool. Yeah, he's just a spectator.

But those blades he had were a little scary. Everything about that fucking wolf was scary. Sid. Sid was a scary cartoon character. Looking cool, looking cool. We're in white shorts to the combine, because I thought it would look like faster, and then you could see my balls on TV. You know?

Almost a Chris Jones situation. It's a game of inches. Meeters in some cases. Yards. You're the metric system. I've been out of country. Woo! The sirens go,

weo, weo, weo. Holy shit. What did you have? How do I look out there? Oh, I got a lot of these, read. I could go on and on, man. Embarrassing moments, you try to look cool and you failed. I got another one for you.

This was probably Homecoming Dance 2007, which is like my sophomore year of high school, right? And this is the big dance. This is the first one. You know, you ask the gal out. You kind of do it a whole elaborate scheme to ask her out. I had a girlfriend at the time. I had like a movie made.

We went to a movie and played like a thing that like was like a slide show. I put it. Whatever. Anyway, we went to the dance. My pants were a little tight. I went to hit a dance move and I split them from fucking crotch to like. Of course you did. And my balls were flopping around.

Everything like that. That was boxer shorts. Not like Lulu Lemon undies. Yeah, like the loose old boxing. You know what I'm talking about. The worst. The worst kind. Like the Walmarts.

Just any kind. Just the style was... That's why I avoided them. I free balled every day. You're such an innovator. Yeah. My balls were out the dance floor. I got sent off the dance floor by a teacher.

Name the most exploited individuals. This is off the Michael Orr story. Oh, yeah, yeah. And Bo, what's your take on this? So I went on a deep dive into Michael Orr this week. Because, like, this has been a hot, hot topic. And I feel like, well, first of all, the twoies are all getting shit. I was on a Reddit thread recently in like our Memphis or whatever.

Everyone who's like served them ever in Memphis is just absolutely shitting on this family, which is so fun when you see like someone kind of get canceled to hear all the, all the stories come out of the woodwork and just follow along. But I think it's kind of pretty obvious that, you know, Michael Orr has been exploited, right? Can we all agree on that? Do we any hot takes around here? No.

No hot takes. Not educated. I'm trying to figure out why to take him so long to get a will done because they probably asked the question about finances and all that stuff, and they probably got to the bottom of something. I don't know the details. Yeah, you want to get it will. He's exploited.

Yeah. He's exploited. But so I went into a deep dive into like Hollywood accounting, right? Because the big argument here is that like, you know, since they had a conservatorship over Michael Orr, like he hasn't seen any proceeds from like the royalties of the movie, okay? And apparently basically what it was, goes down to is all these big Hollywood firms like cook all the books so that none of these movies are actually profitable.

So everybody is saying that, you know, the Tui family, they kind of haven't even really gotten paid for this movie. And maybe perhaps it's just a publicity stunt from Michael Orr trying to promote his latest book. Oh, he's got a book coming out. He's got a book coming out. You know, generally when somebody has a book coming out. They all got 12 grand I read. Yeah, 12 grand. One-time fee.

One-time payment. Yeah. What? The family from the movie? Here's a check. Thanks for letting us use your name and likeness. And this is a family that the dude sold is like fast food empire or whatever in the area for $200 million. And also I think the funny part in this is when the movie came out, S.J.

The son, he was like, I think he was like 15 years old or 16 years old. But they portrayed him as, you know, like a 10-year-old kid. Like, oh, they got this great relationship. Big kid, little kid, right? And SJ at the time was mad that they like, why they portray me like that? That's lame. Makes sense. And the parents were probably like, you shut the fuck.

Oh, yeah. We just got some money. Shut your ass up. We're getting the bag. Yeah. You don't need to be complaining right now? S.J. has a point, though.

Most exploited. At least they didn't like portray him as getting 1% and 2% on all of his like fucking standardized testing. And 99% on the often standardized tests of protectorial instincts or whatever. the fuck it was they were like that's a bed I didn't see the movie they were like this is your room and he was like what's that I was like come on dude leave michael or alone so with michael or who are some more

who are some other exploiting i got one so a dude who is world famous in history nicola tesla is exploited by our guy elon musk right like he named his entire company after So you're on to something, Kyle. I just, I'm always, I would understand why if I was a kid now, I'd be confused about who invented what, who did what. Elon Musk, the great inventor. Yeah. But all this stuff is pretty much just bought and sold the technology and the information that he has bought over the years.

I feel like it's somebody else's ideas. How about sweatshop workers? Yep. Well, you really trumped me there, Chris. I'll go slaves. I'll go to slave. slave population i'll go i'll go um horses horses that's cute chris i'll go the planet earth oh this is good clean exploitation okay yeah yeah i got a whole long list boys first of

kyle i'm pretty sure Elon must did not start Tesla i think he exploited the founders of that That's what I'm saying, bro. No, like he fucking bought the company from somebody and then kind of like ice them the fuck out. So yeah, like Nicola Tesla, all the black musicians that Elvis exploited. Speaking of, Chris, funny you mentioned that. Taylor Swift, exploited by Scooter Braun for not owning the master recordings of her first six albums, which is why she's re-recording them in Taylor's version. That's awesome.

Very topical. That's a power move. Such a power move. That's one. I also, I mean, I have a long, I mean, we can say any sort of child actor, right? I mean, I feel like that's kind of. Anakin Skywalker. Drew Barrymore.

Like, we could just go on and on. Child soldiers, especially the ones in. Chris is getting dark today. Yeah. Are you good, buddy? Remember the movie Soldier with Kurt Russell? I'm just not, I'm tired. I'm not very funny.

I just have to say real things. Like, Chris, we're just saying, I'm like Taylor Swift. And Chris is like, the natural resources of the continent of Africa. Yeah. Diamond miners. It's like our American team, though. Sweat shop workers, porn stars. Yeah.

College athletes. Yeah, it's like our fall America's team thing is Kyle. Coal miners. The first month of the season, Kyle thought it was like legitimately just America's teams. He was coming in and just picking the Cowboys every week. Adam Schein kept telling me how much he loved my America's team. I'd be like, why?

It's just a list of teams. He's like, what you're doing is brilliant. And I was like, dude, I'm not doing anything. you're talking about i'm just picking america's i kept being like what are you talking about you know america's teams like uh it's like fucking the cowboy three school that i don't know was doing some cool promo at the stadium that went viral and then at the end of

the season it turned into kyle picking the the you know worker down down the street yeah he swung on trash trucks he swung all the way the other way yeah trash trucks great show by the way for kids trash truck he's got young kids out there, there's low sensory television options now that aren't like

Coca-melon! Put on this show, trash truck, it's chill. Cocomelon's high-sensory? Yeah, put on trash truck. Okay. I got no more... This is a still photo of a fucking trash truck? No, it's a kid, a trash truck, a bear, and a raccoon, and they're buddies. Okay. And they just do shit.

Is it in an NFL locker room as your teammates, you know, people you play with, is it easy to tell who treats it as a job, treats the, you know, being on an NFL team as a job, or who actually loves football, wants to show up to work every day, plays some football. Yeah, I think it's easy to distinguish. There's a few distinctions you have to make, like real versus fake, tough versus not a tough guy. Like some guys act like tough guys, they're not tough guys. You're around these guys all the time. And then there's some guys who are so passionate about the game

that their play and their preparation stands out head and shoulders above everybody else. Yeah. You know, and then there's just physical freaks that can show up and get it done on a whim. Right. I feel like that's the real distinction is like, who's just a freak that's getting by that's a really good player, and who's putting in that extra stuff to be great because they love it, not just because they want to be great. Like some guys love football.

And I think of Luke Keekely. Yeah. That's the first name that comes to mind. Like playing against a guy like that, he loves football. or like Brian Cushing, the steroids, but got a lot of football. Jeff Skinina. I named two white linebackers. That sounds bad.

Here's a guy who really loves football. We're going to do NFL grids later. London Fletcher. But like a guy like Jeff Scanina who played nobody's ever heard of him, he played 20 years. Oh, I've heard of him. That's my fucking idol, dude. That's a noseguard that played for fucking 20 years. And then now he's a coach, right for the commanders?

Coach, I don't know where he coached. We're still working on the name there. People in St. Louis rave about this guy. Huge. large calves. Yeah, biggest calves of all time. Check out his calves. So he's still in the facility.

Yeah. 20 years, man. And nobody's putting him in the Hall of Fame, but he loves football. Here's my red flag list. Okay, do you wear issued gear to the mall? You might not like football. You might just like being on the team. That's a great point.

We had a guy in St. Louis who wasn't on the team anymore and kept his issued gear and was doing a signing at Walmart. That's low. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's exploitation. That's exploitation. Does the person say he wants to be a cat in the combine?

Obviously, if you say that, you don't love football. Is he artistic? Stop. We can't have that. Okay. Did Martellus like football? I mean, he's swinging samurai swords and shit. I put my coach hat on.

You might convince me or something here. Is your name Johnny Mansell? Maybe you don't like football. That's Johnny football, though. No, I mean, like, you know, I shouldn't have brought up Martellus. He loved football. The guy did love football.

He loved football. He just loved a lot of things. But I'm saying if I was a dumb coach, you know, that I just, because there was a time when they were like, this guy's into too much. Yes. It's not that long ago. When a guy who was on Twitter and active on Twitter was a threat to your team chemistry. Yeah.

Now everybody is on everything. The guy like social media like every other human on the planet. Yeah. I feel like there's a turning point, though. Like there's guys who like they love football and they're. then they just become disillusioned, disgruntled vets slowly over time. That's what happened to me. You know?

Yeah. You're looking at three of them right here, boys. We love ball. I mean, like, there's dudes who showed up, and ball is all-encompassing. It's from the minute you hit that silver door at the front of how I don't love ball. But it's like for the minute you hit the- Okay. If it's all-encompassing, then I don't love ball. But if you're in the morning meeting, hold on, Chris, if you're in the team meeting,

and I can just look across and you just look like, you know, destroyer of worlds or whatever the fuck Oppenheimer was talking about. There's other guys who are like on the edge of their seat for every word that the coach is saying and they can't wait to deliver on the message and meet those. I think loving ball is more complicated than liking meetings. But it's meetings. It's eating in the cafeteria with your boys. Is it working out in the off season?

Yeah, it is. Okay, did you love ball? I loved going to the spring workouts. Okay, no, I'm talking about working out. Yeah, I did. The only time that I would be able to be in my best shape was during the spring. I know I didn't have to play on Sunday. I'm presenting a counter argument.

There were things that you didn't love. There were things like injuries. Like lifting weights or. Like injuries for the most part that made everything uncomfortable, including lifting weights. But that's really the only, if you couldn't get injured, I would say, oh my God. Some of the most ball loving players I ever play with hated the shit around ball. They just wanted to play football because the impediment to playing football is the five, walkthroughs. It's the six individual

periods. That becomes a bitch. I want to go to inside run. If you jog from individual to inside run, you love ball. Oh, man. Then I love ball. I'm rock hard for this shit. I needed it to warm up. I needed it to warm up. Who loved ball more than anybody that you

played with? I mean, Roquan Smith loved playing football. Yeah. Like when I got to play with him in Chicago, he was just a missile. And he was, he just brought such great energy. Yeah, yeah.

It's hard to replicate. I mean, that whole group when we were playing a well-love football. I think it's a little- Brandon Graham? I feel like BG. Watching him, remember when he was on kickoff? That was probably before you got to Philly, Chris. But watching him shit-talk people in between plays

and watching him go like fucking juiced up before running down on a kickoff as like a 270-pound bowling ball defensive end. I mean. Oh, um, um, um, um, um, He wore his football pants into work like 7 a.m. on. He was ready. He would come into the locker room at 6 a.m. change. Full hat, like full pads from the waist down to the meeting room at a.

guy named Corey Chavis, who you guys might know, but maybe not, was a great vet. And a guy that before there was like film that you could take home, he had a DVD wall like as high as the ceiling stretching one wall to the other. And it wasn't just our tape. It was everybody in the NFL. He had profiles on every player. He could tell you where everybody went to college. Like, he had a photographic memory.

Like, guys like that love football. Guys that love to grind tape, like Howard CoSell in a football player's body. That's the, those are the football junkies I love. They really entertain me because when I do this job, like, I'm doing it because I do love ball, but I just like bullshitting and we chose to do this. When it's time not to watch football, I'm fine. like I really am. You know, at the end of the season,

when everybody's like, what are we going to do the next eight months? You know, it's like a, let's have a contest to see on Twitter who likes football the most. There's plenty of things to do. You're true about that. Look outside, man. So there are limits to my love ball.

I think the D-Line and O-line alumni association makes up the people that love ball the most, especially like when it comes to the old head coaches. Like even you find 80-year-old guys that are on Twitter that coached in the NFL for 30 years. Yeah. They can't get enough. They love this shit.

They love ball. You guys talked about some teammates just now. Who was one of your best friends on your teams? Who was one guy you beefed with in practice? And you just maybe couldn't wait to go, you know, knock heads. The best dude, like, you know, the guy who led the, I guess led the church portion of the football team was Sam Ocho. And he worked. He was a relentless worker.

And he's a guy that should have made. my loves football list because he really I was with him in Tampa Bay and I'd be like me and him would you know go so hard and there would be so much extracurriculars and he would just stand in my face and be like punch me in the face right now because he wasn't going to hit

me yeah he's like such a good guy he's a real Christian but the my best friend slash worst enemy on the Bears was Akimaz we dipped out of the same can every day we shared locker space who you guys dipped out of the same can you know he'd walk up and get something from me. I get something from him the next day.

You know what I mean? We had that kind of working relationship. But man, I'll tell you what, practice, when you line up next, when you line up across from him, and he's got murderous intent, and you do as well, and you're both healthy, especially early in training camp, and you're trying to establish, you're trying to get your feet in the ground, so to speak. It's the first day of prison.

Oh, buddy. It's like that. It's like that. It's like that. It's not really, because there's some people that take shit too fucking seriously. I'm not saying it's prison, but it is like the first day where everybody's just, just sizing each other up. Some days we wouldn't get dip because we just wouldn't talk after practice.

You know? I'd be like, man, I can use a dip, but I don't want to talk to them today. And like in the yard, usually you got worried about a little guy coming up to Shank the big guy, right? Yep. But the two biggest guys are like,

no, we're at wreck time. We're going right out by the barbell and we are going to fight. I'll meet you between the hashes, but they're going to have to, the guy on the tower is going to have to actually fire a shot. And that's what it was like I heard with you and Akeem Hicks.

And I was talking to Jay Cutler about this recently. He was somebody, we were talking about you. And somebody said, yeah, you like to get in a bunch of scuffles over there. And Jay was like, yeah, there was this one in the indoor and blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, that's the one with Nate Collins. Yeah, probably. And Jay said it was.

Yeah, Nate Collins. There's another one where the whole O line jumped in. We all got kicked out. Practice ended early. Let me tell you about my fucking mortal enemy on the practice field. Ryan Jensen, Tampa Bay. Oh, my God, bro. you know how it is when like your your pass rushing during practice like oh whatever then oh

turn and run of the ball all right he's the kind of guy like grab you under punch you grab you under your uh show pass and then just do the most annoying fucking shit like you turn and run for the ball shove you from behind and stuff like that and then i was always so annoyed because i'd be walking around tampa and everybody like hey are you Ryan jensen like you look like Ryan jensen I'm not fucking Ryan jensen yeah the worst is when one of those guys signs with your team yeah like fuck every day is going to be hell. He had Harvey Dahl sign. He's a tone setter type guy, you know, where it's just like, dude, we fucking get, man.

It's fucking Thursday of game week. Like, I got you. I understand. Like, I'm fucking. So, yeah, that's mine. And that's a good, great player. Really good player. Great center.

God damn, we got into it. We got into it a joint practice when I was in Philly and he was with the Ravens. And then like, we, like, we were fighting on the field. And then they, he signed. Tampa the same year as me as a free agent. It's like, oh, shit. It's the fucking worst. What was that walking across him in the locker room like when you guys saw each other's beautiful faces?

Well, we were cool. I mean, you know how it is. It's all good at the locker, man. But once you're on the field, it's like, fuck. Sometimes the temperature's not too comfortable, though. You know what I mean? Yeah, no. It wasn't quite like that. It was all good.

Speaking of good guys and bad guys across, you know, the films, you know, pop culture or even in history. Who are some notoriously known good people that should be bad? The example came from the sandlot, how Scotty Small should be, he's known as a good guy, but he should be bad because he didn't know who Babe Ruth was. He didn't know who Smoors was. He took the Babe Ruth and Yankees signed baseball.

He used to play baseball. Who are good guys that should be bad? Cody Maverick from Surf's Up. Dude, without a doubt, you guys know Surf's Up, right? I just saw it. Okay, first he leaves his family on the iceberg without. saying anything. He just is like, I'm gone, doesn't say a fucking word. Then he steals, well, he doesn't steal Big Z's necklace, but he throws it in the ocean, right? And then Big

Z's trying to teach him how to make a surfboard. You know, he's uncoachable. He's really just all about himself. And he's a protagonist of the movie, and I'm waiting for a part at the end of the movie where, like, they bring it home and he like changes, but at the end of the movie's just like, oh, he's still an asshole. So Cody Maverick. Cartoon characters. Yeah. I'm thinking about the little squirrel chasing rodent from Ice Age? Yeah. Not great. Man, not a lot that's good there.

No, no. Henry Ford, talk about global warming. It's hot as fuck in Charleston, Virginia right now. That's true. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Henry Ford. Henry Ford.

But actually, most people are like, if you really look hard, anti-Semite and, yeah, all the other stuff. We've canceled him before. Yeah, I think we canceled them. on this show. I got one for y'all. Jackie Chan, beloved actor, not a good guy. Not a good guy. I did a little deep dive into this. Yeah, look it up, man. He's a huge supporter of the Chinese Communist Party. I'm not about that. Also, notorious adulterer, philanderer has just a bad father. He's gotten a strange daughter that he does not keep in touch with. Yeah, but what about the one he watched a movie with and she was crying? That wasn't her. That was a fake daughter, bro. No. Fake daughter. Yeah.

He's a bad guy. Bad guy. Jackie Chan. Bad guy. Remember, what was the girl's name from Rush Hour he was looking for? Also, domestic assault. Imagine being domestically assaulted by Jackie Chan. Dude.

Yeah, dude. Death by a thousand paper guts. You think you could beat up Jackie Chan? I'd smack the taste out of Jackie's mouth. I don't know. Prime Chung Lee. I don't even know what Philanderer is, but he is one. Prime Chung Lee might get him.

Prime Chung Lee might get you. Kuma Té, yeah, let's do it. If you've watched Say By the Bell, Zach Morris is actually, he's not a good dude. Oh, really? There's a breakout on YouTube. It's called Zach Morris's Trash, and it's a breakdown of every episode

and showing why he actually is a trash person, so like why he actually wants to, everyone to cheat on the test so he can get out early and go see this girl. Or he like goes and like, you know, screws over his buddy. and all this stuff. So if you've seen...

The character. Yeah, the character. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Not the actor. Gotcha. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And there's... Zach Morris.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Zach Morris is trash, literally. Sugar. How about sugar? Sugar's not a person. You get what I'm saying. Yeah. Everybody loves that.

Yeah. I think the jury's not out anymore. He'll kill you. Teflon pan. Oh, you know, a lot of people think Teflon fans are. This Hitler guy He's drawing big crowds

You can just see the wheels Turn in, Kyle's brain He comes out with sugar Yeah A lot of RPM Uh huh It's chilling man Last mailbag

You get to be in one band For any single concert In history Who are you playing? What place are you taking? What band is it And what show? I'm hot for the

one you ready yeah 1991 Metallica in Moscow in front of a crowd of 1.6 million people if you ever look up photos of this like that they took aerial photos it's incredible and then there's this video of them doing enter Sandman that's fucking unbelievable because the USSR had like just been disbanded I'm not a history guy Kingston so you can maybe back me up on this but 1991 Moscow James headfield it's probably a fucking top five crowd atmospheres in the entire history of humankind look it up it's pretty safe i just saw a picture of it it's insane yeah imagine the energy in there man imagine trying to prep crowd noise like that in moscow dude dude we're all the the yeah they ran out of blow in russia yeah rush out of the USSR cocaine shortage

in moscow you know oj's great in those avis commercials but i don't know about him that's damn it chris we're on the last one already I want to be maybe a backup singer on the Woodstock 99 tour with DMX's Rough Riders. Oh, yeah. Playing in front of loose leather clothes. Yeah. Kyle just yelling. Yeah.

Kyle just yelling. He had the, I think he had the Gene overalls. He had one of them undone. He had the Tims. There's the short overalls too. That's a fit, bro. Buddy Rough Riders was a vibe for a suburban white team.

More than a vibe. Flesh in my flesh. blood of my blood poster on the wall. You had that poster. That was dark. I kind of fell off though. And then there was X. That was kind of his massacre.

If you know what I mean. Big 50 guy. You know, and then it just became like, oh, here's my answer. Probably Greg Allman at the Fillmore. And like, you know, he's about to play whipping post. And he's like, this is all for the first album. And then it's just like fucking whipping posts.

It's like one of the greatest recordings of music. of all time. We got a little number from our first half we're going to do for you. Barry starts the road. I mean, just how casual that motherfucker was out there at the film war. I'd like to be, I'd like to be there. I'd like to be one of the Allman brothers. Or a future when he played at the NFC championship or something.

What did he play at the divisional game with the Niners? Remember they had him play pregame? What was the halftime show where they had all those 90s hip-hop artists out there? There was all the New York artists maybe? Yes. And they were all in like a moving tower. It was 2020. Yeah, that, that was sick.

I don't know. That was that, but I do that. Yeah, because Eminem came out like halfway through and everyone lost their mind. Eminem and Dr. Gregg, and he had that big piano. Okay, I got two. This is from me. These are two mailbag questions from me.

Okay, firstly, did you guys see the messy thing? I don't know if Beau was seeing it, but basically messy, somebody caught on to the fact that the first guy that gets off the bus is his bodyguard, the guy with him, like at all times. and, you know, that's easy to track. But then you watch TV, and this guy's all over the pitch.

He's up and down the pitch, and it came to light because Messi last night got bum rushed by a fan because he's so wildly popular. And the guy's, like, right there to interject. I think it's incredible to be so great at your sport that you have your own bodyguard. Like, I've had teammates with... He's a water boy distance away from Messi at all times. All times. You know, Tom Brady had the nutrition guy.

You know, that was about the weirdest thing I've ever experienced. weird like he was pretty low maintenance it was weird it is weird he said it is weird but it's definitely not something that's normal i'll say imagine being married to the uh most well-known supermodel of all time and getting massage to bed every night by your nutritionist hold on he makes a good shake your sports so i'm a nutritionist away so all right so anyways um love you meg fucking uh she's not listening anyways at all when we had uh kevin o'connell on she was like bo she's like who'd you interview today i was like oh i head coach kevin o'connell i was like

yeah same draft class she's like what do you mean what kind of draft class i was like oh draft class like we were in the same he's 38 yeah we were in non together meg yeah but you got to look at me like what the fuck are you doing with your life you know that kind of thing um By the way, the Kevin O'Connell interview is great. I know you probably already listened to it. But tell your friends. Oh, yeah. So the question was, who are the best bodyguards of all time?

Yep. And I've got a list of three here. Great. The baby's bodyguard. We know that. Yes. The baby. The rabbit.

Fuck. That guy is a tank, man. He's as big as a door. Bro, I did get the license plate on that truck. And I looked him up on Instagram, and he's an incredible human being. It's Kane, Kane, right? King Kong. King Kong.

And he put us on his story. We put social about him. He thought it was funny, which is good because I don't want to anger the fella. That's awesome. So also, oh, Clint Eastwood in the movie with the fake gun. In the line of fire. In the line of fire. The thing about this, a lot of people are like Kevin Costner, Bodyguard.

The movie speaks for itself. But no. Frank Farmer, bro. No, I say no, because Kevin Costner didn't have to worry about fake gun it's really hard to spot a fake gun and clennies would not only spot spot the fake gun but he got in front of the uh the fake bullet so uh my last is uh Kyle long for jay cutler good shit yeah well that was a lot of fun it was quite an honor what was that like man being being jay's guy in that locker room um was crazy and then you go out to dinner places and everybody loves jay

he's like he's like an anomaly anigma um and he's got that personality that everybody wants to know more about so they're like I want to go talk to him I want to talk to him and Jay just wants to hang out and have a good glass of whiskey and have a steak his picoat game isn't he'd give me that look like handle that a lot you know what I mean I took pride and being like nah not tonight one of the two best dressed white quarterbacks I've ever seen he's sharp uh Charlie whitehurst is one j cutler's two they're sharp yeah but being his bodyguard do you treat you well did people come after jay a lot you know we didn't have many issues Okay. And you know what? One thing I'll say about Jay, there was always a, there was always a plate at his table for Thanksgiving and Christmas.

And so he treated his bodyguards well in that regard. He did. He said whiskey for my men and beer for my horses. You were definitely like his staff, bro. You like lived there with, with Kristen. No, no, no, I didn't live there. Basically, anytime I FaceTimed you, you're over there. You're like the guard house. The neighborhood that wouldn't, that wouldn't go away. You were like, can I play Kristen? It was fun. He also pulled me out. He also pulled me out of a lot of shit on the field. Like he'd be the first guy to grab me by the back of my neck and pull it out. There's pictures of him yanking me off file. Yeah, I like the guy.

Okay. So those are your bodyguards. Yeah, those are my three. Okay. I'll go, Beau. Number one, eugenics, Frank Thomas. He is a bodyguard? I would imagine that on eugenics, Frank Thomas is even more physically imposing than he was.

This is kind of like your America's team. I like this. Yeah, so. I like where you're going. I was actually thinking about him for worst ads. Okay. Best bodyguards. Number two.

Okay, that didn't get a laugh from anybody. Well, no, because it's kind of not, it's not where we were going. This is funny. Do you mean newgenics? Yeah. Okay. Eugenics is a totally different thing. Eugenics is a very different thing.

Newgenics. Which they eliminate certain. Really? Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah. Okay. I'll start again. No.

I like eugenics, Frank Thomas. Stop. You think about eugenics, Frank Thomas. You think he's just. He's got these, he's got, hey, somebody doesn't like you.

Eugenics, Frank Thomas is your body. I wrote down, he just devises plants to get rid of everybody. You know? They call him the big friend. He's like longer,

bigger. My wife loves it. That's what he says. He's like, I want him. Does he have a lab coat on? Now I'm sweating. Eugenics.

It might be the best thing that was ever said. Marius Pugianowski. Oh. who was not only a world-strungest man, as we all know, but he also fought in the cage a couple times. So he's for meets function. You know what I'm saying?

It's kind of the best of both worlds. Doesn't speak English either, so he can like say whatever in his native tongue, he could just bark at people. Is he a genocide guy? Number three. Number three, we're getting to that Mark Zuckerberg.

Uh-huh. Because I feel like if you're bodyguard, If your bodyguard has bodyguards. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's like a cheat code. Yeah, that's like every bad guy in a John Wick movie.

How hard is it to get to the main guy? The guy with the metal teeth, the fat guy he beat the shit out of in John Wick 4. It just took a beating. I haven't seen John Wick 4. I haven't, I don't even get on the train for John Wick 2. It's over now. Is it? It's over.

Somebody just needs to kill him in the middle of John Wick 5. They kind of leave you. They kind of leave you wondering. Oh, same thing with the Hemsworth movie. It's hard to. get to the main bad guy. The bad guys have bodyguards and the bodyguards have bodyguards. They're everywhere.

Denzel. Man on fire. Yeah, man on fire except he lost her. But you obviously didn't watch the end of the movie though. Well, he got her back. But if that's my kid, I don't want to lose her. I'd like, if I'm in a building character, I'm going to be like, do you plan on losing the child?

Yeah, and you'll get it back. And you'll get it back. Before you make it about you and make a movie about you, look what I did to cover up. up my mistake. And he died. He did die in training day. It's like flight.

It's fucking, which is a superior movie. He's a lot of melody, but it's like, oh, the movie's all about Denzel and it's all about his character, but he fucking crashed the plane because he was drunk. He was hooking up with one of the hottest flight attendants I've ever seen.

Is that how it happened? I never watched it. Yeah, he was drunk from the night before. Then guys flips the plane over and they're like, oh, good job. It's the same thing with man on fire. The black dude who swam across the,

uh, the lagoon. Yeah, that's a great bodyguard. He's basically a Navy SEA. He's so committed. How about Yokic's brother? Yeah. I mean, in sports, there's, you know, that's your enforcer right there. Chris, I got some good ones.

Okay. Frank Farmer, you mentioned it a little bit earlier from the movie, the bodyguard, obviously. Not as much of a bodyguard, more of a lover, really, which is kind of, that's the exciting part for me. Here's the other one. The T-800, Terminator 2. Nice. Bodyguard.

Yeah. Elite bodyguard. Come on. Not a T-1000, but. Not quite. We're cutting hairs here. Protecting John Connor. Fucking, you know, becoming human slowly in the process.

The little cracked smile he does. Oh, what a scene. My favorite bodyguard, though, is the private browser function on Safari. Yes. Yes. Yes. The delete button. Incognito mode.

Exactly. All. Yeah. Exactly. It's like it never happened. You want a day worth or a week's worth? I want everything. I want to be the guy at the incognito mode air traffic control center.

You know, I want to be the guy at the Google air traffic control center. Just watching files fly across. Wow. Like people are into some six shit. It's like minority report. I told you. The other day, we were talking about how to dispose of a body. I couldn't Google it because I was.

I was afraid the guy was going to see. I read that a lady... I'll call that in. I read that a lady in Florida killed her roommate and then doused herself in Mountain Dew to get the DNA off. Her mug shot was just like... Like Baja blast.

Yeah. Diabetes. Yes, no. Now, you know, like fucking Mountain Dew has got 70 grams of sugar in a fucking... Sugar. strikes again man yes that's sugar we got to tell people about this thing it's in everything it's in everything this uh this upcoming NFL season the Colts are going to have um John Mellencamp

Steven Stills and Jim Ursa's band I fucking love this as the starting as you to welcome everybody you know kickoff football season in Indianapolis what other famous people do you all know that have have bands have musical talent first off what other famous people do you know that are this powerful and famous in sports that are such a fucking good show I mean this guy is must see TV runs zone Twitter account just saved the whale the same week he wouldn't pay the running back so but it's like everybody's like hey hey the wow well you know what the whale sayquo sparkley's right there you know what Taylor wants fucking...

I don't understand. I don't understand how he's doing it. I laugh so hard if people were to get mad. They're like, oh, I got something. Somebody woke up. And the fucking aggregators, they know what they're doing. Let's just bait these stupid motherfuckers into having a take. And, you know, here's a judge.

J.M.R.S.A. and a whale. It shows like a whale on the back of an 18-wheeler. Yep, because that's how I got it there. They had a whale on top of a private jet. Yeah. People were like, hey, you know, that's not fair to running backs or the whale. Or the whale. You need to put the whale under the plane

I mean he's fucking idiots out here You know during the season Everyone's going to be bitching about flying coach Like to their far games You know, the West Coast trips like God damn Fly a whale out But we're sitting in the back with the GAs and shit Wait till you hear

How much money Daniel Snyder paid for hookers you're going to be really mad about the running back thing then but they're also being exploited is that his thing whales are being exploited too that was actually Jim Mersey is kind of a genius he's saving the whales man he's like 20 years late if he wanted to go full Twitter on people

what he should have done was oh you care more about the running backs than the whales what's a shelf life of your average whale versus your average running back you know hundreds Right? 100 years for some of these whales? Some of these whales.

There was a shark that's like 800 years old I saw the other day. Basking shark? He knows some shit. Probably a Greenland. You've seen some greenland sharks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I know my sharks. 260 years.

Yeah, 100 years sound a little bit. 800. The Lord of the Rings. There's Kyle. You read one of Bose books. Shark. Longest life. It's a Greenland shark.

There's like a colanth or something like that. They may, live over 500 years. Who, Greenland Sharks? Yeah. Well, that doesn't mean 1,000 or 700. They may live over...

They would have said over... They would have said over 600 years. Okay. Anyways, Jim Mersey, I hope he lives to be 700 years old. And I hope he never sells the team. Just because, you know, it's fucking... He does stuff like this.

This is, again, it's like Putin and the hockey team. We have a connection to this concert, by the way. You know, you're out there skating next to Sergei Federoff. It's like, you're Putin. You know, throw... Throw the puck where I'm going to be. That's where I am. You know.

And Putin's out there just fucking missing shots and shit. They're doing a freeze. Open nets. They're doing an open net thing. They're doing a, fucking, they're doing a penalty shot. They're like, you take it, comrade. And he fucking just whiffs. It's the same thing.

It's like when he does the MMA stuff, he beats people up. Yes. Just let him beat him up. Yes, exactly. The bears are letting Putin climb all over in Russia. dude you think about it Castro used to dominate basketball games in Cuba oh I bet he was a big look like

Big fucker Chris Paul You got something in your eye Obama you've seen some of these baseball players from down the way They're big Dude if fucking if fucking President Obama came to Eagles practice as much As I think the guy's a solid Guy or whatever I would

fucking I would snap him in half He might like that apparently What What in the name of Bright Bart are you talking about? I know what he's talking about. President Obama had a former lover, and he said something in a letter like he had imagined having sex with men.

Every day. Undressing men. Every day. In his mind. Is this, you know, a source that we can... This is on New York Post. Oh, New York Post. That's why I asked if it was...

I just left it at what I left to that. If it was Gundy, if it was Mike Gundy was the columnist or something. One of these O-A-N guys. I'm a man. Yep. And I mean, that's, it's cool. Hey, whatever you're into, man.

Anybody who likes football does the same thing. Speaking of bodyguards, Lincoln had a bodyguard that, according to some website on Google, said that he was rumored to... Wasn't the only cherry tree he was chopping at, you know what I'm saying? No, that's the wrong president. he was an honest man I remember when Jimmy Carter got capped in that fucking Cadillac

Hey yo If you're a football fan You fantasize about men daily No honest No I mean like They said Lincoln He had a bodyguard That Lincoln would

They'd sleep in the same bed to stay warm Which makes sense back in that day It was cold It was cold But they said you know There was more than body heat That's just dedication to your craft from the bodyguard, though, you know? Yeah.

I know how cold it is in Washington. There was a picture of me in a locker room, and it was super cold in D.C. I would imagine in the winter months it would be even colder. You didn't see when Washington crossed the Delaware, he was naked surrounded by bodyguards. Actually, the whole of the boat was taken on water. There were so many naked bodyguards. The fuck are we talking about, huh? go president great they just keep talking presidents go jefferson no well macon's not here we can say

whatever we want about the guy he's like a jefferson purist kind of a shipbag not making but tj so back to ursay do you want to hear some music yeah i want to hear james dolan's music too this is this is jim urs the jim ursay band hurt is he covering cash i think so he himself is covering you is he the singer Yes. Of course he's the singer, Kyle. No, not Johnny Cash. I want to hear Jim Ursa. Where to go, Jimmy?

The boy got sold. Only an attic can sing this song like this. You know what I'm saying? 100%. He's got a good fit, too, a black cowboy hat and black sunglasses. He sounds tired from chasing that dragon all the time. Unbelievable.

I'm kind of speechless. That was great. I mean, it's amazing what studio equipment can do. I'm not saying he's probably not good, but that's better than he probably is. And that was a live performance, too. He was up on stage. Oh, that was live?

Yes. Jim Mersey's a musician. Okay? He's a Renaissance, man. Fuck yeah, dude. Does everything. Yeah. Great.

Great music. Now do we want to hear James Dolan? I want to hear James Dolan. I haven't heard this yet. Nick Simon. This is J.D. and the straight shot, glide. Who's doing?

Who's this? James Dolan. Who is that? Yeah, and it's the fucking owner of the Knicks. And, you know, what I told you earlier, he's the guy that made me, he used to be really passionate about the Knicks, and he made me stop being passionate about the Knicks, but he did this really interesting thing where I didn't know it was his fault.

I just thought it was just happening. I was like, this is natural. But it's not. It's James Dolan told Oakley he can't come to the garden. He's the NBA's Dan Snyder. He's the NBA's Dan Snyder. He's the NBA's Dan Snyder, exactly. Big budget for strings.

I remind you the Boston police officer. Did you see the Boston police officer go down that slide? They need to set the Boston police officer going down that slide to James Dolan's ride that slide. No comment on the quality of the music, but if you haven't seen that video, can you pull the video up? Kyle, you haven't seen this video? I've seen the video. It's one of the funniest videos I've ever. He came out of a wormhole.

Bro, his face. His little Boston face. He came out. A little minute, man. Like a leprechaun got shot out of the wrong fucking... And then I saw a video of a kid sliding down at half a mile an hour. That was the best. Yeah, yeah.

Like, two days after, they were like, this was my kid last week, at the same thing. This was my kid in his dad. How does that happen? Test the slide. He almost gun-butted himself. He came up in the... fetal position.

After he got off the ground. He got up and tased him. Bro. That fucking. I feel terrible, bro. They may, I make it read the Miranda rights, the medical specialist. How did he get upside down?

Like, you have the right to a bicycle. Yeah, you can't go back in. Hey, somebody else go arrest that kid with 11-8 stand. No, honestly, cops have a hard job. This is the hardest part, too. They do have a hard fucking job, but this is fucked up.

How you draw this assignment is beyond me. Like, what did he do? Test the slide? No, they didn't test the slide. I feel like it's one of those, you know, it's the feel-good video where the cop goes to the, you know, the neighborhood that he plays basketball, right? It's like one of those where the cop went to the park to play, you know,

oh, I'm playing with the kids. Oh, go down the slide. And then he gets. And then you don't know his house, and fouls the shit out of you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyways, uh, that does. We don't know anything about this cop.

No, he probably is a great guy. I don't know. But this is, it's just amazing that in this day and age. Listen, if that was a, if that was a fucking, uh, he would have been on the today show. He should be on the today's show.

If that was a butcher, I'd laugh. You know what I mean? Like, guys like that get interviewed on morning television. Yeah. Okay. So the question is what famous people are actually good at music? And besides Joe Merce is the question, because the guy's good at music. Steve Martin is my answer.

Steve Martin's ridiculous. Steve Martin is, you talk about strings. Strangs. He's got the strings. During the pandemic, he would put out like once a month. He would put out an awesome, you know, him just playing banjo. Yeah. Him just chilling and playing banjo.

White hair at Steve Martin? Yeah. That's the one. That's the one. What about Jor? What about Mylada? What about Jorah? Mylata is wildly talented.

He is so good. Voice of an angel. Yeah. Yeah. An angel. Kevin Costner and the modern West. He's got a band.

Oh, really? Yeah. Oh. Do you have any of there? Do you have any of their jam? I haven't heard it. Yeah. I was just doing some research.

Free press for all these budding musicians. Yeah, because Kevin Costner needs it. Hey, let her rip. Here's Kevin. Kevin Kossner in the modern West. Won't stop loving you. Is this Kevin? This is Kevin?

He's a natural. Okay, that's enough. It's good. He's good. He's good at music. It's not great. It's not as good as Erse. He's good at music.

Erse's hurt was better. Yeah. All right. That's it for our mailbag. Bo, is nice you to join us. It's good to see your face. Hell yeah, brother. I've been playing NFL grid, bro, and I've used you like three times.

Let's go. Yeah. When you get that grid and you, you know, you see New England Patriots and Tampa Bay Buccaneers and really nobody comes to mind except for me. Exactly, dude. Exactly. All the other ones are just Irene Shanks boyfriend. Non-interesting answers. Yeah.

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Check us out. So, Chris, I know you've been playing some Immaculate NFL grids. Dude, like my life depends on it. This is more toxic than gambling for me. It's pretty fun. So we got a new one today from a pro football reference. So on the top, we got Arizona Cardinals, Minnesota Vikings, and Super Bowl champ. And on the side, we got this Pittsburgh Steelers, Green Bay Packers, and Denver Broncos.

We got only nine guesses. So we got to name a player that did each of those things. Okay, I'll go grid by grid because I was trying this one on the ride over and I could not finish it. Maybe you guys can help me finish it. Pittsburgh and Arizona is a guy named Clark Higgins. Okay? Don't ask me how I know. Clark Hagan's played for both those teams.

He's going to get you one of these like astronomically low percentage scores. And Kyle, the way this works is the more obscure the player. Two percent. Two percent. Okay. He doesn't even have a photo. He's so unknown.

No. Yeah, he's a shadow program guy, but he was a good player. So it's like if I can name like a practice squad guy. Yeah, that's right. I think he had to be on the roster. Green Bay Packers do James Jones for Super Bowl champ. Because, you know, a lot of people are probably going, Jordy Nelson.

How many people are taking it a step further? Some people go quarterback. They're not playing the game right. James Jones, he's a wide receiver, played till 2006, I believe. No, until 2016. 2016. Oh, 0.5%. What about Mark Schlerath, Super Bowl champ?

I know, but I got a better one for you. I think I have a better one for you. This game is fun. Right, isn't it? So we got to decide between somebody like Mark Schlarith or think about somebody obscure on that Broncos team. I could have given you a more obscure. Oh, Darien Stewart. Dary and Stewart, Max Garcia, too.

They're going to be the same. Yeah, yeah, same. Darian Stewart. It's Darian with an A, I-A-N, Stewart. 0.1%. Exactly. Holy shit. Okay, Pittsburgh Steelers.

Super Bowl champ. Let's see. You want to pick somebody from this last Super Bowl kind of run? Do you, Keith Miller? Oh, oh, oh, we got James Ferrier. James Ferrier. UBA?

UVA, James Ferrier. Let's see how James Ferrier. All-time great player. 0.5%. Okay, so we're setting up pretty good for this. Arizona and Green Bay. I believe I was having trouble with this one. Okay.

So, so the two left we need somebody that had one point and at one point played for the Packers. Denver and Arizona, you could go Carlos Dansby, right? Didn't he play in Denver? But you could also go Bertrand Berry. I believe he played in Denver. Bertran Barry.

You can also use him for the Colts. 0.4% for Bertranberry. Yeah, Kyle, you're right. Brett Farv would work for Packers Vikings. Packers Vikings is another one that will work with Bezadarius Smith, obviously, right? that's a so uh packers packers cardinals is tough packers cardinals is tough packers and vikings do we have anybody for packers and vikings broncos and vikings so we get packers and vikings no Googles um

could put far of obviously oh oh oh there's there's there's uh smith would be better smith would be better go ahead and put zee smith in there okay okay okay Score went up a little bit. We're still good. 15%? Nothing wrong. So Denver and Minnesota. Did Dominique Foxworth play in Minnesota?

I thought he only played for two teams. I thought he only played for Denver and... Who was it? Baltimore. Baltimore. Baltimore. Yeah, it is Denver and Baltimore. So Denver and Minnesota...

Me at 16 years old would be really good at this game. But might give a fuck for this. Yeah. Denver and Minnesota. Oh, Mike Boone. Boone. B-O-O-O-N-E. Mike Boone, sure.

Oh, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Alex Boone played for the Vikings and for the Cardinals. Didn't he play for, he had a... He did play for the Cardinals. And the Vikings. He did play for the Vikings. You're sure about that. 100% good.

But we don't need Cardinals Vikings. We just need Broncos Vikings. Okay. This happens to me all the time, too. I'm not going to go with the... Yeah, it's hard. Mike Boone, right? 7%.

Nice. Not a bad score at all. Great job. We got two boxes left. Two left, and we, guys, we can do it. this. Green Bay. Green Bay, Minnesota. There might be somebody from back in the day. The problem is I was going through this and I was coming up empty on all the big skill position

famous players. It's probably somebody. Did Joe Webb play for both teams? No. He was definitely in Minnesota. Did Brett Hunley, did he play in Minnesota? No. That sounds right. when I know oh he played in he played in Green Bay yeah in Baltimore and Arizona it was Arizona he definitely played oh if you playing Green Bay that's your guy Brett Humley he did play him in Green Bay Great we are one away

God great One away yeah That one was a little higher 31% But we're still really really good Any score under 100 rarity is like amazing Okay all right So just need a Steeler Viking We can't do Pat Pete because he hasn't played yet

this year. Damn. Steeler Viking. All the people listening and they're, you know, listening right now are screaming out names. Yeah, they say somebody. That's how it goes. Yeah. Steelers and Vikings. Did Richard Manit hole? Did he play Minnesota? No. Is he just

in Pittsburgh? Robert Smith didn't play. He plays. Anyone on the Purple People Eaters? What about tight ends? yeah i was thinking so it was long hair or who is spade who was the tight end who who no spate spath

spath was minnesota in college oh yeah mark chumura yeah that's all i can think of tanyin fucking chimera and uh stealers all right we'll open a new one in a second we'll keep this box open

um we we just Just can't, fuck. Linebackers. Maybe they've made a trade with each other at some point. We could remember the trade. We'd have both sides. Yeah.

We haven't been thinking about kickers and punters. No, we're backup quarterbacks enough. Hummy, Charlie Batch. Ponder didn't play in Greenback. I was thinking Pondard. Charlie Batch, Tommy Maddox. In Minnesota, yeah. There was a St. Clair.

He was a backup in Pittsburgh, but I don't think he played in Minnesota. Did Josh John? Johnson play in Minnesota? He played in Pittsburgh. He played for like 15 teams. I know. It could be one of the teams. I was like, get that guess in.

We get. One more guess. That's not a bad guess. Josh Johnson. Oh, that'd be hilarious. It's not really going to change anything. How about any DBs? Like Ike Taylor, Ryan Clark, any of those guys?

Brian McFadden. McFadden played in Pittsburgh and Arizona. Arizona, yeah. But that would have, I think people would have had gotten out of that one. Yeah. Kiesel? Did Kiesel play roles? No.

No. I went through all these. Who is the... Lynn Swan? Was he in Minnesota? Hayward, Casey. Hampton? I got one for you at home.

Franco Harris will give you Seahawks and Steelers. It was like 98. He was like mid-200-9. He wasn't. Neither was like Kevin Williams or Pat Williams. No, I was thinking Kevin Williams. Pouncey? Did the Pouncey?

No. Who are some of those offensive linemen on that mid-2000s team? Vanica, Max, I forget what his last name was. Colon. Obviously Willie Colon. I think it's going to be somebody. Was he in Pittsburgh?

Yeah. Colon, yeah. He had Jetson Pittsburgh. I just got confused with me. I think this is going to, I think we're sunk. Let's take the Josh Johnson guess, though. I think we should always guess Josh Johnson. Yeah.

There's a good shot at doing it. Fuck. Oh, it was wrong. Oh, who would it have been? They don't tell you. Google that. Mike Wallace. Mike Wallace.

Oh, shit, that was so fucking obvious. I played with Mike Wallace. Damn, Mike Wallace is cool as shit. Fast as fuck. Okay. Give us another one. All right. Another football one?

Yeah, sure. Did you do this with like porn stars? That's what I'm saying. We can do with anything. I have one drawn up for a pop culture. No, Johnny hasn't shocked. with it. Jay La. Sarah Jay, yeah, she's going to do most of the interracial. So Lex steal, that would be a pretty safe bet. All right, we got Mr. Marcus definitely. No doubt.

I feel like I've seen Sarah Jay in the scene. Okay, this one. All right, next grid. We got on the top line, Tampa Bay Bucks, Washington commanders, and two plus kick return or punch punt return touchdowns in a season. On the left column, we got Dallas Cowboys, Pittsburgh Steelers. So you can pick any of those? The touchdowns don't have to be for a team. You just pick. No, they have to be for the team. For the Cowboys there.

So, I mean, we have one. To Sean Jackson. Yeah, let's see. Bo Allen's probably a low percentage. What do you mean? I mean, he's not as well known as wildly underrated. Some other Eagle books.

He's been exploited. Make sure you click the right Bow Allen. 3%. There you go. Okay. So Cowboys and Bucks. Um, I feel like there's a wide receiver recently, but, uh, did Doug running back. Cole, Cole Beasley.

Yeah. But that's your percentage isn't going to be real low, but it's more important to go nine to nine. 21%. Okay, Steelers and bucks. Uh, left witch. Nice. That's great. Nice.

Wow. Rare joint there. Yeah, that's rare joint. Rare joint. So Washington and Dallas? There should be a lot here. Oh, running back. Alfred Morris.

Alfred Morris. I feel like he's going to be high, though. He's the only reason we beat Dallas one year. We couldn't beat Philly couldn't beat Dallas. Damn. Yeah, that's a high person. Yeah. Washington and the Steelers.

DB. Did Ike Taylor play in Washington? There is one DB. It's not Ryan Clark. Ryan Clark is the guy though Do you play in both places? He played for Greg Williams in Washington. Antoine Randall L.

Yeah, he'd be punts. Steelers, two plus returns in the season. Yep, that's good. And Sproles for the Eagles. I think Sproles might have a lower, if I lose this game, it is what it is. But yeah, okay, good. Nice, we're seven for seven.

We need a Cowboys returner and a Washington Philly combo. God. Did Felix Jones return kicks and punts? I don't think he returned enough for two. Since 99? Oh, since 99. No.

I know Des Bryant returned at least one touchdown. Well, he's probably your answer. Trying to think that. He didn't even catch it. Yeah. Washington and Philly. McNabb, but you know, there's, yeah, yeah. There's other guys than McNabb. We can get.

we can get somebody else. Oh, W-D-E. Carrigan. Good. That's a tough block. That motherfucker is tough to block. 16%. All right.

We need a Cowboys returner since 99. You get so good with this? Yeah, sure. Let's try it. Yes. Nice, Reed. There we go. We got one.

We got one. Yeah. That guy's got a thousand hours in this shit. Thank you.