Green Light with Chris Long - Khalil Shakir! Josh Allen, The Buffalo Bills & New $60M Contract!

Episode Date: March 11, 2025

Chris Long interviews Buffalo Bills WR Khalil Shakir fresh off the ink drying on his 4 year, $60M extension with the Bills. Khalil talks about the emotionality that came with signing his contract, the Subaru that he will continue to drive despite the new deal, getting to play with Josh Allen, his relationship with Bills GM Brandon Beane, hearing Mr. Brightside play during Bills games, OC Joe Brady and the future of the Bills! (00:00) - Intro (3:10) - 4 Years, $60M Contract Extension (6:10) - Brandon Beane (7:55) - Subaru (9:38) - Youth Football Leagues in Japan (12:25) - Josh Allen (21:10) - Bills OC Joe Brady (22:22) - Practicing Against the Bills Defense (24:55) - Tough DBs (27:35) - Mack Hollins (31:25) - Bar Bill Wings and Mr. Brightside Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ In need of sweet threads to vibe like Chris and the fellas? Check out https://greenlightpodcast.org/ for everything merch wise and then some! Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light's YouTube Channel, where you can catch all the latest GL action: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxWFAA-wuB7osdiAJyLOcw Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

It was when we played KC and it was fourth down. I mean, I was in the backfield. I came to the backfield. It was a man play. They kind of, they went and they zoned it out. I remember I kind of was on the left side in the backfield, got through the line and ran a little flat to the right and realized it was zoned. And in my head, I'm kind of like, oh, no. And turn around and see Josh just take off.

And there's a lot of times, like I tell this all the time, there's a lot of times during a game where Josh will take off. and he's like making guys miss or like hurtling or doing all this crazy stuff. And I'll catch myself like on the field like like like like fan girling. Like I'm saying like, oh my goodness. And in my head, I'm like, I should probably go block. Welcome to the Greenlight podcast presented by BetMGM. If you haven't signed up for BetMGM yet, use bonus code Greenlight and you will get up to a $1,500 first bet offer on your first wager with BetMGM.

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Khalil Shakir joins Chris. Talk about one of Chris's favorite side teams and arguably one of Chris's favorite players in the NFL. That's Josh Allen. Great interview. We cover a lot more than Josh with Clil. He tells a great story about the Subaru he still drives despite being a four-year, $60 million man. Talks about the relationships he's built with Brandon Bean and Joe Brady. Also, the mentorship received from Matt Collins this season. A great interview, a great conversation. Make sure to come back later today because Chris is going to be dropping a little free agent roundup. A whole lot of news that happened on Monday. Chris has analyzed it all. He's going to talk you through it. Come back for that. This is a real treat. If you listen to Greenlight Pod, you know we love this guy. Khalil Shakir, one of the most underrated players in the league, and now he's paid like it.

Welcome to the show. Congratulations, ma'am. Yes, sir. Thank you. Thanks for having me. Yeah, of course. I just want to start by saying, I've killed people in Madden with you for like the last two years or so. And then they took the Zig route out of the game.

And so I've got to find other ways to get you open. but you've been absolutely unstoppable, bro. That's funny. I've heard that from a couple of my homeboys. I get Snapchat videos from them playing madden all day, every day. So it's funny. Yeah, dude, just crushing people. So congrats on the deal.

Congrats on a great year, man. I guess I heard you talk about the emotion in putting pen to paper there. Four years, 60 mil, 32 guarantee. That's life-changing money right there. And well-earned. for you, where does the emotion come from? Like, what are you thinking about what's running through your head while you're signing that deal?

I mean, honestly, in the, in the moment, it, my mind is pretty blank. Like, it's, it's, it's almost like I don't know how to feel, right? It's like a very surreal feeling. As I've mentioned is since I was seven years old, that's when I started playing football. And one of my, you know, my best friend from back home kind of reminded me, like, He was like, dude, like ever since, you know, we were young, it was like we'd watch and see the, the, our favorite players get extensions and see it on ESPN and all this type of stuff. And he was like, it's crazy that it popped up on my app and it's like your name, you know, like. So it's a very surreal feeling.

Obviously, I was trying to hold it together as far as tears and stuff like that. But man, it's all, it's super. It's excited. It's an exciting feeling. It's a, you know, like, you know, the tears about to flow out. You know, I was, I had my dad up there with me and my stepmom and my wife. And, you know, every time I looked at my wife, I think that's when the tears are about to kind of flow. Because she's just been my rock through the whole thing.

And, you know, the roller coaster of emotions for, you know, my first three years in the league. Like, it's, the mental side is real, you know, so she's kind of been the one that's, that's been right by my start. But it's insane. It's insane. And it's not just the money. it's it like it's like somebody recognized the work you're doing yeah i think that's what it is it's like obviously you know fifth round and you know i always i've always had a chip on my shoulder to go out there and and you know earn my spot and then once i started playing more it was like okay now what's the next step and setting certain goals for each season but going to that third season was okay

cool like after this season can i lock down in extension you know i want to be a bill like i love buffalo bills mafia is insane so i was like this is this would be a dream, you know. And then for it to kind of all fall together, it was just, it was crazy. It was a crazy moment. I'm just super excited for the opportunity. It's funny you said like everybody sees.

I mean, like when I got my big deal, you had to go to ESPN.com or like read a newspaper. And now everybody gets a notification. Yeah. All your homies. Oh, dude. You know exactly how much you got paid. Everybody that can hit you up for something

knows exactly how much you got paid. Yeah, no, that was a, That was the part. I was like, right when they released it, my phone just like blew up. And I was like, dang, it's kind of all out there. So like, yeah, you're right. Everybody kind of knows. And hopefully things have been smooth so far with people not reaching out for things.

And hopefully it stays the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Brandon Bean, man, when I had him on the show last year, first off, he's an awesome dude. You know that. But, like, he had so many good things to say about you. And that's before I think, you know, national media was on top of it. And, you know, not only him like Josh, when we came to camp last year and talk to Josh, you know, we asked him by you and his ears perked up and he just, he was glowing.

He knew you were going to have a big year. But Brandon Bean said, most underrated guy on the bills, that's what he said last offseason. How great is it to have a guy like that that believes in you and that has a vision for what y'all are doing? Yeah, I think it's, obviously it's a blessing, you know. We kind of sat there and talked for a bit after the other day when I actually put the pen to paper and he was just kind of like, you know, fifth round. They didn't have any fourth round picks. And he was just kind of stressing a little bit to try and, you know, move spots up to get me, which they did. But I'm just super, super grateful for him, you know, like ever since I've gotten there, he's had faith in me, trusted me.

And just, you know, kind of told me just keep my head down and keep working, keep getting with Josh to, you know, build that connection. and would just tell me like my time's going to come, you know. So to have somebody like him, you know, have that faith in me, have that trust in me to go to work and eventually, you know, tell me all the pieces will kind of fall in the place and for it to actually happen. It's special, man. I appreciate him and his family as well, you know, his wife kind of took my wife under her wing and, you know, they've gotten to know each other really well.

So just have to have a very, you know, supporting family, you know, that at the top of our organization have that much faith in me and my family it's it's a great feeling i appreciate him a lot more than he knows i love the guy so let's talk about this famous subor is it a forrester no it's a 2021 touring accent touring accent okay i'm looking this bad boy up so i see a lot of potential here bro i think i was giving you my pitch off the off the air for they're on some some big 33 inch tires on there. Yeah, I know. It was just kind of weird how it happened. Like I just, uh, I was there. I was like, oh, snap. They had us rental cars at first. And they're kind of just like, okay, we're taking your rental cars in a week and you got to get your own place. And I was like, oh my goodness. I don't

even have a car up the car up here. So then I hit up my financial buyers and so like, dude, I need a car. And I've never been a car person like ever. And they're like, all right, cool. They connect me with somebody and he was like, well, I have this Subaru. Because then my first question was like, I just want to be good in the snow. I was like, whatever is good in the snow. And they're like, all right, cool, we got this Subaru to be up there in a couple of days. And I love it. I mean, I think it's amazing. I actually have had my ups and downs with it as far as taking care of it.

But the last year, we've really locked it in. And we started with the tinted windows, but I don't know if, I don't know if we'll do more to it. The plan was to get rid of it and get a new car now. But since it's kind of out there and I've been a lot of questions about it, I might have to hold on to it. Bro, but I feel like people are going to start knowing it's you. Yeah, that's, that's true. That's the Subaru with tinted windows, dude. Like the well-kept Subaru.

The 20-21? Like, I think Subaru needs to give you a bag, bro. Yeah, I was like, honestly, I might have, hopefully I plugged myself in Subaru might go ahead and hit me up. Then we'll keep it for sure. But there we go. Yeah, that will be dope. That would be dope. So you grew up all over the place, huh?

Your military family? Yeah, yeah, military baby. Shoot, was born in Virginia. moved to Hawaii, Hawaii to California, California to Japan, Japan back to California. So, yeah, moved around a lot. So born down at the beach in Virginia or? You know, it Woodbridge. Woodbridge, yeah, it was right up for me.

Yeah, and then how long was Japan? Because Japan was five to six years. So that's where I was the most. It was all this moving around happened before. sixth grade. So like, um, at a very, very young age. And then from sixth grade on, um, I was in California. So I say I'm from California. Um, that's just where I was at for. I guess growing up for the most part. Yeah. When you, when you, when you were in Japan, like, was there an awareness of football? Was football a thing there? So at first you had to be like a certain age and a certain weight to play.

Right. So I wasn't supposed to start. I mean, I started at seven. I don't think I was supposed to start for another year or two. And one of my dad's Marine buddies had started this new tackle football league. And once he started it, my first year, there was only two teams of my division. It was us in a different military base. Because each military base around there had their own little, you know, organization. So it was like we were the lions and I forgot what the other team was. But we played each other for like eight to ten weeks straight.

This is the same team. Yeah. Yeah, but then it grew after that and it was actually a pretty dope experience. That's awesome. So you got back, you kind of grew up in Cali, like as far as being in high school and that sort of thing. Did you have a fan of, were you a fan of a team? So my dad was, isn't a Falcons fan. So I kind of just naturally grew up a Falcons fan.

Yeah. But other than that, that was it. Yeah. He still has some of his freaking, his stuff in his house and his truck. It's still decked out and red and black and falcons stuff. But he has his little. He has his bill section. Okay, good.

So it's like you get both. Yeah. Were you there? So when you were at Boise, right? Yeah. Were you a Falcons fan then? I think once I got into college, I didn't really have like a team. Like, again, I was kind of just forced to be a Falcons fan because my dad.

But I never really watched them too much. Okay. But no, once I got into college, I didn't really have a team or anything like that. I was making sure you weren't like staring at the TV during 28 to 3. Oh, no, no. I mean, I watched it, but I was like, you know, I wasn't upset when it all happened. Just making sure.

Well, you're in, as you mentioned, like, you landed in football heaven, bro. Like, that just feels like a place that it's got that college feel. And the fans are obviously awesome. Do you have a game that you remember this year that that place was the most, like, the top came off? fit that you were. Yeah, it was when we played KC. And I was fourth down. I mean, I was in the backfield.

I came to the backfield. It was a man play. They kind of, they went and they zoned it out. And I remember I kind of was on the left side in the backfield, got through the line and ran a little flat to the right and realized it was zoned. And in my head, I'm kind of like, oh, no. And turn around and see Josh just take off. And there's a lot of times, like I tell this all the time, there's a lot of times.

there's a lot of times during the game where Josh will take off and he's like making guys miss or like hurtling or doing all this crazy stuff and I'll catch myself like on the field like like like like fan girling like I'm saying like oh my goodness oh my goodness and in my head I'm like I should probably go block you know like so it's like it's insane like that play it was like I think it was like fourth and two maybe or something like that and I mean he took it to the house and kind of just iced the game and the place just went nuts like it was insane so I mean, watching that guy, he has multiple highlight plays every single game. But definitely when he's out there doing his thing, that place erupts. And they always fall for the ball fake. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it works, right? 10 yards down the field, dude, that joker's going to throw the ball.

I feel like you had to feel like you're in a Madden commercial. Like, you're in the commercial watching the subject of the commercial. Like, when you're running behind him and watching him make people miss, bro, like, it's just like your field level for the biggest highlights with that guy dude it's got to be incredible yeah it's it's insane it's insane i mean like said every game there's multiple plays where you're just like this dude's a freak man like it's crazy do you ever worry about him like you know i'm always pulling for y'all and i barely ever see him get up slow like maybe the houston game was the first time i ever saw it yeah are you guys ever like holding your breath i mean

I think this year he did a better job. I know that sounds crazy to say, but I think the whole building is like, dude, like you need to get down, like get down. And obviously, like, he's such a competitor that, like, in those moments, like, it's going to take a lot for him to get down. But if he can get down, he will. But, I mean, you're talking, like, inside the five, no shot, he's going to go get it, you know?

And, you know, key plays, important plays the game, like, he's going to go get it. So I think he did a better job at, like, just make sure that, okay, like, if he had to go do it, he'd do it. But if not, he would slide and get down. So even with still all the crazy highlight plays this past year, he did do a better job at it. I also thought he did a great job of taking care of the football. I don't know what the emphasis was coming in or if it's kind of a product of like the switch y'all made to Joe. But what lined up for him in your mind where he just started making, I mean, he was always a pretty good decision maker, but this this year, I feel like it just was the next level. Yeah. I think we just kind of realized as an

offense, you know, Joe and McDermann and them, they'll stress all the time that just the turnover ratio and the turnover battle, like if we can, you know, keep the ball safe and protect the ball, we're going to win games. You know, we have the players. Obviously, we have 17 lead in the way. So if we can protect the ball, like the plays will be made to win the game. So when you're turning the ball over, whether it's a ball carrier, you know, fumble or whatever is, and all those things that, you know, the game gets a little sticky. So we just really stressed on taking care of the football. And at the end of day, it's, you know, don't force anything. Like, we don't need to force anything. We don't need to press, you know, like, like I said, we have the guys and the

17 lead in the way to be able to win any game as long as we protected the ball. So that was definitely like a priority going in the past year. You know, like, I always feel like your team can can win a couple different ways offensively. And I don't think y'all get enough credit for the run game. You know, like you'll see a game like the Dallas game last year where it's like, hey, we're going to throw the ball 20 times and we're going to see if they can stop gap scheme run. Yeah. And then you get the game like the two weeks span against Detroit and LA this week where it's like, we're not going to punt.

You know, it's like, so do you guys come into the week and you assume a certain identity or do you see how it goes on Sunday? Like you come in with a game plan, but do you know that this is the way we're going to play this week and this is the way we're going to play the next week? Yeah,

I think we always try and, you know, stress the run. I think if you can win in the run game, it opens up the past game. So, but to do that, like, you know, everybody has to be all in on, you know, making the run game work. And that's, you know, obviously the O line. But the running back's doing what they're doing. The tight end's blocking the way this was blocking.

Most importantly, I think the wideouts blocking in the run game is huge too. So we had a group of wideouts that, like, truly bought into, like, blocking in the run game because we knew that it might not happen that game. But down the road with running the ball so well, it'll open up, you know, to play action and in the past game as well. So I think that's definitely to establish our identity was, you know, playing physical football and running the football. And therefore, you know, down the road, it helps with a lot of our past game as well. You talk about being willing to block kind of an unselfish group. And that kind of played out on the field. I felt like, you know, whoever was going to eat week to week, hey, we're going to attack the middle of the field.

Hey, we're not going to do this week. We're going to work outside the numbers. Do you feel like that unselfishness was palpable? like when you walked into camp, like this is a group that whoever eats, we're all going to be happy about it and we're going to support each other. Yeah. Yeah, I think the team was put together in a way to have like a lot of unselfish dudes, you know, and I think like you said, during training camp, it was we had to work on a lot

of things as far as like we had a lot of new faces. So the connection with Josh and the past game and all that stuff was stressed a lot. But I think when you put a group of guys who truly believe that, that anytime any one of us could get the ball, a big play could happen and us really buy inside and believe that, that's when you have the, you know, a receiver blocking 20 yards down the field for another guy. Like, I've always said, I'm a true believer, like, what goes around comes around. So if I have to go on a game and, you know, block for James, you know, 30, 40 times,

like, I'm going to do that, you know. And we had a lot of guys who kind of bought into that mentality as well. So, yeah, you could kind of feel that right away that it was a team that just wanted to win. like we didn't care how we did it. It was just if we had to go block out there a thousand times, we were going to do it. If we had to pass the ball a thousand times, like we were going to go do it. And all that is truly only possible because we have 17 too, you know, somebody that's so special that no matter what, obviously he touches the ball every play,

which means that any play, anything special could happen. So you had a lot of guys who just believed in one another and truly cared for one another. How about the flip side of that coin? Like any play, something special in any play, like something hectic can happen where it could be a 10 second down. And you guys are in Scramble Drill, like a good bit. What goes into that whole process for y'all? And you've only been on one team, but I figure the rules of Scramble Drill are what?

Like, are they the same across the board team to team? Or for y'all, is it just getting to know Josh and what he likes to do and vice versa? Yeah, I think, you know, we talk with Joe and Joe always says scramble drill has to be our best play. Right. You know, like you never know what can happen up front. You have no idea what's going on, what they're going to do as a D-line and their stunts and their movement and all that type of stuff and their pressures as well. So like I said before, you have 17 who can, you know, get out of there and scramble. And us knowing, you know, how special he is back there, we would work it in practice all the time, you know.

You have your certain rules where, you know, if you're going to go deep, throw your hand up, right? And I think the rules for Scramble are pretty much the same across the league. It's just who works it more, you know, because. in games it gets very hectic and you can have a lot of guys in one spot and without working it like um i think we worked it so much to where that we kind of knew like which one who was going to go where you know like especially if he if he rode out to the ride and we had a certain play on like um and the scramble happen like with the routes built in like it was kind of known like okay who was going to go there and who was going to come down like but i definitely think it

just comes to just work in it so much in practice and um like you had mentioned being on same page with Josh as well, like he knew what we were going to do as well. So, yeah, I think the rules are the same. I think just the execution part comes down to who works it more and who prepares for it the most during the weekend leading up into the game. So what really changed when Joe came on? Because I felt like for you, that was a big moment. For the offense, obviously, it was a huge moment.

I felt like Josh improved even better than he was, and he was playing at a really high level. So what is it about Joe? And obviously, it's not really about like Ken not doing a great job. I mean, everybody seemed to like Ken, but like something clicked with Joe. Yeah, yeah. We definitely loved Dorsey. And I think, obviously when Joe took over, I think it was just like, his energy is,

is contagious. Like, he would come into work, like, pumped up, you know? And whether that was in the film room or stepping onto the field, it was almost like every day felt like he was going to throw on the pads and get out there with us, you know? So you have an OC who, like, it feels like he wants to be out there with. with us and not even that, just having like the simple conversation with him about off the field stuff too. Like he was more than welcome to, you know, just hear us out on a lot of different things and be there to support us. And when you got a guy that cares about you and your family off the

field, like it makes you want to play that much harder for him on the field. So all around, just a dope person, man. Like, I love that guy. And then on the other side of the ball, obviously the headman is a defensive guy. And I feel like in practice, they're not holding things. back, are they like they're running their scheme when y'all are good on good. Yeah. How, how, how difficult is it to diagnose what they're doing down to down? And then how much better do you think, does it make you guys better when you play other teams who are maybe more vanilla or don't throw as much at you?

Oh, definitely. Definitely. There is a, a few times where they're, you know, doing what they're doing and I'm just running my route, like, what is going on, you know? So, like, I definitely think that they do a lot of things that helps prepare us as an offense to be ready for, you know, whatever any defense throws at us on game days, you know. So going against them in training camp especially is huge for us to take a step to be ready to go for season. But yeah, it's always a good time and a lot of fun going against them with not only

like the schemes they're on, but just the players that we have too. You know, I get to go against Taryn Johnson every single day. And in my eyes, he's the best, you know, Nicodeev. Like, he's the best. So to be able to go against him every single day, I know that that's going to help me be prepared for season and no matter who lines up across from me. Yeah, that that's got to be such a, you know, I don't want to call you lucky, like, you know, but you are lucky. Oh, definitely. You know what I mean? Like to get to work across from a guy like that every day and probably vice versa, he feels the same way. But what makes him so good? Like, because, you know, I think most people know that he's an elite slot corner, but, but what do you, what is it specifically? If you were

explaining to a young receiver, I'm a young receiver, I just walked in. I'm, hey, what's that guy's deal? Yeah, he's quick, man. He's quick. His feet are always on point. He's fast, too. Like, he's sneaky fast. So I think as a wideout, like, your biggest thing, especially at man coverage, is, like, getting off the line and creating that separation within the first five to

10 yards to run that route. It seems with Taryn, like, no matter how good you get him off the line, like, once you get into breaking your route, he's right there. You know, so just his recovery, too, is crazy. But just he's a technician. Like, his technique is. is insane. Like I said, he's quick, he's fast, just everything that you would need in a nickel, like he's that, you know? So like I said, it's me when I'm out there. I take it seriously

whenever I line up across from him to truly get that work in and make sure that I can try and create separation and all that stuff during practice because, like I said before, with him being the best, it doesn't matter who lines up across me during the week. I know I'll be ready. All right. Who's the strongest slot corner in the league? Like, guy that when they put their hands on you, you're like, damn. Yeah. I don't know. I feel

like it's in the slot. Like, it's rare that somebody will get hands on you. You know, there's so much space. Yeah. I mean, I've always said this. Like, McDuffie is insane, too. Oh, yeah. That guy. Yeah, crazy. Yeah, the dude, he can play inside and outside.

Yeah. But I would say he's got me a few times with on the line and getting hands on. I think you don't really expect, like, the, the nickels to be, like, that strong, you know, they are typically smaller. But he's definitely somebody that's, like, gets his hands on you. And it's kind of like, oh, snap, like, wasn't expecting that, you know. Well, I guess, I guess for a nickel, like, length is strength.

You know, like, it's just there's not a lot of guys built like him or cut like him playing that position. I know he's played outside some, too, but, yeah, I mean, that dude's a dog. Have you gone against the dude in Seattle, spoon. Yeah, I went against him a few times. Yeah, that was a fun game. Yeah, well, that was the game. Y'all whooped there? I don't want to say you whoop here. But this year, y'all got after them in Seattle, right? So who are the other cast of characters that you're like, hey, is it Humphrey? Is it like just a handful of nickels that you think are really elite? Yeah, honestly, I would throw those two in there

as well. I think going against Humphreys, he is kind of, he's a little bit, I would say he's bigger nickel standpoint. I mean, that's Baltimore secondary in general. They're big. That's kind of their reputation. Yeah, they're physical. You know, they have the swagger. They talk a lot of mess throughout the game. But yeah, the dude in Seattle, he runs his mouth a lot. I was going to say. I think that definitely is like some people take that like as their personality on the field and that helps them play better. I mean, even during the, the, towards the end of the game, he's still running his mouth.

And I was just like, dude, like, I don't talk trash at all. I'm usually quiet on the field. That was one game. I was kind of giving it back a little bit. I mean, I had 100, over 100. And, I mean, obviously, the score is what it was. And he was still talking. I was like, come on, bro.

Like, it's over, you know? I almost admire a dude that does not. Because, like, when we used to be losing, I'd be like, all right, I'm going to stop. Yeah, exactly. That's what you would think. But it's all respect to him. for sure to just keep that same you know character throughout the whole game but now it's all love and it's definitely nothing but but respect towards him but he's a he's a dog as well i want to talk about

maybe the biggest dog on your football team and i might be biased because that's that was my little i think he was my rookie now i don't know if he was a rookie or not mac hollons yeah yeah man i love to do man he really i truly believe that he he also has a big part in my success as well so far. When I first got into league, I was, you know, quiet and maybe said two words a day. Like, two words a day just quiet, kept my own. You know, when Max showed up,

I do feel like he kind of took me under his wing a little bit to, that it's okay to play with a little bit of swagger, you know what I'm saying, and be different as well, you know? He's different. Yeah, he's funny, man. I love the guy. He brought the energy every single day, no matter what, obviously the no shoes and I'd have like people call me like I'd get home and family members

would be like all right so like is he for real or is he just doing that for the cameras you know and I'm like no he's he's for real like he does that everywhere the eating with his hands um you know no shoes but he's respectful about it because at first of I there's just no way you're doing this everywhere he's like well if I go into a you know a nice restaurant I'll put shoes on if I'm he this was the thing he's like if I'm not paying for the dinner because we did receive with dinners yeah he's like if it's not my night, I'll eat with a fork and knife. But if it's my night and I'm paying and I pick the place, you know, I'm eating with my hands. So you all go to a steakhouse and it's on Mac and Mac will

eat with his hands. Yep. Yeah. Yeah, he's crazy, dude. He's insane. He said to ask you about the pizza. You get a pizza on what pizza on Tuesdays. Yeah, right. So I started, I don't even know why it started. It was early on in the year. I had a pizza deal with Picasso's. And by the way, best pizza out. They're amazing. Okay. But I don't know. He's like, oh, you're trying to order me a pizza or maybe we had a deal or something like that. And I was like, all right, cool. Like, yeah, I'll get you a pizza. So every Tuesday, I would send him the same order. You know, I would text my agent to be like, you'll put that order in for Mac. They would contact them and then it'd be either like an hour.

And well, then we caught on a winning streak. So it was like, well, we got to keep doing it, you know? And I was like, all right, like, we'll just keep doing it. So every week, it was. a pizza and some wings, you know, pizza and some of the cinnamon sticks or whatever. And then, I mean, eventually, you know, unfortunately we lost. And I go, well, dude, like, it looks like I'm not going to, you know, get some pizza anymore. But he loved it so much. He's like, no, like, come on, bro. So then the whole season was sending him a pizza every Tuesday.

Bro, I thought he played great this year. I thought, you know, obviously he's always been a doggone special teams, but he's actually made a lot of plays out there at receiver throughout his career. And I thought he was, he played. big in some spots for y'all this year he's super super underrated as well like i think when he gets the opportunity he makes to play you know we have all these rules in the wide out room as far as you know catches and yards after catch and you know getting tackled inside the five and all these crazy insane rules to like make everybody want to play better and he's the one that started that you know

so definitely like obviously his mentality's different but um when he's out there he makes the plays he's insane in the run game i remember one game we're sitting there and we were sitting there and we ran the same play like over and over and over again. And they were running right behind me and Mac. And eventually Mac starts going like yelling. He's like, it's coming right here. It's coming right here. Like he's saying that to the defense. He turns around the jimbo. He's like right behind me. And I'm standing next to him. Like, yo, chill, bro. Like, chill out. Like, what are you doing?

I saw him this year jawing at people, dude. I was like, dude, you weren't like that when I was a, when you were a little kid. Yeah, yeah. He wasn't doing all that talking when he was in Philly and 17. Oh, yeah, he's doing it now for sure. All right, well, a couple questions to end on just Buffalo, man. Bar Bill, what's the order? I usually just do the lemon pepper. Like, I'm not super huge on wings. Like, but if I do get wings, it's definitely Barbell,

and it's definitely their lemon pepper and blue cheese. All right. Mr. Brightside, are we into it? Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I don't know all the words. I'm definitely, you'll catch me staring at the screen when they, they play it.

But yeah, it's great. I love it. The crowd is insane. Anytime I have family that come into town, the only thing they say is, I can't wait until they play Mr. Brightside. So it's definitely dope. All right.

Do you like playing the cold and what's the coldest you've been in that city? It could be out of practice, it could be during the game. I don't mind the cold. I mean, I went to Boise. It gets kind of chilly there. So it didn't really bother me too much. The wind is a little different. but I would probably say playoffs my second year against

it was either Steelers or Casey. I don't even remember how cold it was, but it's like your toes start to freeze up and all that stuff, but I'll probably say one of those two games. All right, man. Well, this has been a blast. It's great talking to you. And I'm wishing your luck in the future.

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