Green Light with Chris Long - Kyle Long! NFL WK11 Recap & CFB Playoff Update with Nicole Auerbach.

Episode Date: November 21, 2022

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And in Michigan, 1-800-2707-1-17. Tennessee, y'all 2. 1-8009-9-9-7-89. Welcome to the Green Light Podcast. NFL week 11 is come and gone. Patrick Mahomes delivered another comeback. Sorry, Justin Herbert. Thank you for playing.

The bill's weathered the weather and we'll be returning to Detroit in a few days off a big win over the Browns. We hit the New York Jets for his Patriots game and the locker room fallout that followed. Also, Dallas is dominance versus Minnesota Vikings team that might have shown us who they really are. America's team's Miller-like mentions NFL recaps and Nicole Auerbach's college football inside scoop all follow muddy waters y'all enjoy just me and cow long today in the studio making is out selling a house trying to sell my house is so Megan has a job yeah yeah yeah so well it's kind of nice to be able to see you and not have to we cut out the middle man today yeah we're usually looking through that beautiful head of hair that making has to see each other

as he sits in the middle here like he's fucking uh Tony dungy or something a Maria Taylor no I'm Maria Taylor, you're whoever who else sits over there. Jason Garrett. Yeah, you're Jason Garrett. I'm Maria Taylor. Out of those people, I would at least like to be Jason Garrett. You really don't like his analysis.

Sometimes I'm like, did anybody prep Jason Garrett for what they're about to talk about? Because, you know, it seems like it doesn't. He had a head scratcher last night, Reed. I can't remember what it was. We were sitting there watching and I was like, what the fuck is he talking about? It's almost cute.

He looks lost at times. I like it. Let's not. He's a great coach. You're burying Jason Garrett here. I'm not with it. I have fun watching Sunday night football and poking fun because I work in TV now. And people probably wouldn't laugh at the things I laugh at, but it stands out to me because I've been in the studio and it's like, that's funny.

Okay. He said something like just another great game with these two great teams. Wahha. Yes. Football. Yes. Football. Every week.

It's something like that. Yeah. Well, Macon's our Tony Dungey for some fucking reason. He's sitting in the middle. We got to, you know what, though? We miss him and he'll be back soon. Sell the house, make. Sell the house, mate, please.

Yeah. America's teams. We've got a few. Some guy from Kansas City was complaining about America's teams and the mentions. He was like, oh, it's a good thing I can skip ahead. I was like, well, imagine me caring what the fuck you have to say about America's teams. And imagine thinking we have to put the chiefs in there every week. Maybe it's about the fact that the chiefs.

Chiefs haven't been in it. They don't understand that it's not a power ranking. It's an America's team ranking. Yeah, he doesn't like it. Guy in Kansas City doesn't like it. You want me to kick off the American? He doesn't hear this either because he skipped the head. Dickhead.

How do we know he's a dickhead? Nobody's telling him we called him a dickhead. He doesn't like the segment. Guy doesn't like the segment. You know what I was going to do? Just do Coast Guard, Army, Navy, Merchant Marines, the whole thing, and then make the guy feel better. Salvation Army. It's a big week for the Salvation Army.

somebody might jump into a bucket on Thursday like Zeke used to jump in the bucket All right So America's teams All right I'll go And this might be on your list too Kyle This might be our only overlap The Bears Bachelor Party

You can have that one Okay those guys That that is that's an America's team If I've ever seen one those guys What 30 deep? Amazing Basically all white guys It's definitely America's team

How hard is it to get that many guys to do the same thing without fucking it up. Like I can't get three guys to show up on time for a golf match in our own town. They did a good job. That's a lot easier than being summoned to a wedding where you have to go to men's warehouse and get fitted for a suit. It's like, yeah, we're just going to send you a Mike Dick of costume. Thank you.

I hope they hit Northside Tavern in Atlanta. That's one of my favorite bars in the world, Kyle. You've never been there, but one day we'll go. The Northside Tavern. I just want to go to Magic City. Google that shit. One of my teammates had a backpack. I always said, where'd you get that?

My wife listens to this pod. I've never been, so. My wife's also okay with me going to a strip club. I don't know if that's changed. I haven't tested that hypothesis in a few years. The allure to Magic City, though. It's in Drake songs, you know, stuff like that. Northside Tavern, Kyle.

Great live music in that place right there. Oh, that looks like a little lively spot. Oh, it's an incredible, incredible bar. It's incredible. And I hope those guys got to go to that bar. A tough, tough scene for them to go down there. dressed up like Mike Dicka. I mean, like, it's so worth it until you're walking out.

Yeah. At least though, there's 30 people. And everybody loves you. You can hide. Yeah. Even if you're a Falcons fan, you're like, look at these guys. People love Bears fans. Like, people really do their lovable.

Like, we can, you know, Big Cat is a perfect Bears fan representative. Yes. Just like, it's disarming how, how much you expect to suck. You know what I mean? And how much the Bears fans enjoy bitching. And it usually comes true. Yeah. And we'll talk about the Justin Fields thing in a little bit. But all right, another one, South Carolina, America's team.

I mean, Sunday, Saturday, it was almost Sunday because I was waiting, and I'll talk more about this with Nicole Arrbach at the end of the show, but I was fucking waiting to sweat the Utes. The Uts were on the, you know, I don't know, like the Ocho or something. They wouldn't put the damn game on because South Carolina was all, now you can't leave with Tennessee. They were. It was the fourth quarter took.

I don't know if anybody timed that fourth quarter I did. It took so long. It took so long. Not only did you get jumped in Columbia, but they wouldn't let you leave. There were like 15 scoring plays. There were 15 injuries. There were commercial breaks, the whole thing. College games are way too long.

They got to shorten them. Oh, 10.30 p.m. Utah, Oregon started. I was awake to 157, Kyle, in my room. I was an Oregon fan until I couldn't stay up late enough to be an Oregon fan. Yeah, well, I guess I put. some money on Utah or Oregon. You're going to stay up until 2 a.m.

Yeah. For nothing because Cam Rising couldn't cover it. More like Cam Falling. We've got somebody had to do it. We've got Clemson coming up for South Carolina, dude. So this is a two-week run where, you know, South Carolina, like everybody loves Tennessee. Like they were one of America's teams

earlier in the year, but they went down to South Carolina this weekend. Everybody will love beating Clemson. This weekend sending that youth pastor home. Sending him back to his bowling alley. Why is he so annoying? I don't know, Kyle.

Is it because he's full of shit? In front of his team down the hill? Maybe because he's full of shit. That's the worst part to me. I know some people might not like me talking about Davo, but he's just a guy that rubs me wrong. I'm not even a real name. And Clemson's coming up for South Carolina.

So just please, I want to put South Carolina on America's team. America's teams list next week. Please get this win. Karen Clemson. They could go to... Clemson could be in the playoff. Things could happen. I don't want that.

Okay. The Tennessee Titans. Tennessee Titans, America's team, Thursday night, vanquished the Packers. It feels like a lifetime ago, but...

They're fabulous. They're great. I mean, I still don't know if they've beaten a good team. Well, they took the Chiefs to overtime with Malik Willis.

They threw the ball one and a half times. That's why they're one of America's teams. It's Vrable, dude, right? Like Brable's amazing. He's amazing. Like they're just afraid of him, so they go play so hard.

Yeah, I'd be afraid of him too. Guys seen some shit. He was in New England for a long time. Whenever they show him on the sideline, he's just staring off into space, like plotting his next, like, you know. How about Jeff Saturday doing push-ups and shit before the game, getting on the Brable, the former player pre-game workout? All right, so Tennessee Titans.

How about America? How about the United States? 1 p.m., 2 p.m. They play whales. 2 o'clock. They play whales? Yeah, they're in the toughest, the group of death. They play whales and soccer?

Yeah. Is this underwater? No, no. And whales, they could, whales could play you on the beach. They got blowholes. They could play you anywhere, Kyle. They're mammals. It's a nice.

Fucking learn. Short stints. They got to rotate a lot. Learn the animal kingdom. Okay. Fuck off. In the other game in our group, England beat Iran.

end six to two. Yeah. That's very good. Right. For England. Yeah. Okay. And then lastly,

American dads, this is our week, guys. Make no mistake about it. Christmas is for everybody else. It's, you know, it's,

it's, what's the word when they used to put up, my word, propaganda. It's propaganda. You know, it's K jewelers,

propaganda. You have to get your wife this shiny thing or else she's not going to love you. What kind of society are we living in? You've got to buy your kids a bunch of expensive toys so they get spoiled even more than they are now and have less of a chance of overcoming obstacles in their life because they got every toy in the toys or toys or us doesn't even exist anymore. Chris, there's something interesting here to be said about kids with a ton of toys. Can I tell you though? What is it? So I've heard recently now they're saying less toys for your kids because the the limitless choice choices that they have to make between the toys gives them anxiety.

Kyle, I'm ahead of the game, dude. Which is incredible to think about. I'm ahead of the game. Yeah, and that was the thing. Like, we got a lot of toys. We were lucky, you know, because dad grew up, he didn't get it. You know, he was, he had a tougher road than us. So he was, like, backing up the Brinks truck when he came to Christmas early on.

And it's funny, we thought, damn, we're getting a lot of toys. But, you know, because our dad plays in the NFL or something, all these fucking rich kids out here are getting too many toys. A lot of toys. All of them. Too many toys. I tell my wife, I've been telling my wife for years now. They don't need all these toys.

Play with found objects, dude. Get them a stick. Like kids in the 40s did. Go outside. But the bottom line is, Kyle, as I bring this full circle. This is our holiday, man. This is our holiday. Thanksgiving is a dad holiday.

We get to pitch in a little bit. We get to relax. Nobody bothers us. I mean, like, you know, people do inevitably bother us because that always happens. Three decent games that day, too. There's going to be, who's playing? It's a job. Giants and cowboys.

Yeah, we got the bills at Detroit. Got giants at cowboys and hats and Vikings. Cats and Vikings. Giants cowboys. All indoor? Yeah, right? All indoor games on Thanksgiving again. We're doing this again?

I know I probably looked a year ago, but it's here now. Fucking, it's a shame. You like it? There's something about the Thanksgiving games that makes me think indoors. We played in Detroit, which was always indoors. You know, it reminded me of not the, I like playing indoors or on turf. I hate it.

But it seems normal to me that Thanksgiving games are inside. It's just such a shame, man. You got this beautiful product. It gets even more beautiful in November. Look at how beautiful Cincinnati, and I mean, even though they wore those white uniforms,

Cincinnati and Pittsburgh were last night. Look at how fucked up the grass look. Look how cold it was. You know, like New England and the Jets. I talked to McCordy. He said it felt like the team. out there. That should be played in grass. Like that game should be, people should have grass stains

all over them, just like the backyard Thanksgiving football games. Remember we used to go in the backyard down there in the field with Jeff? Oh yeah. And play a little football back there. We used to have good games. We had some good games. That's what, right now I would probably get hurt doing that, the Turkey Bowl thing. So I'm actually like looking back at the way

some of those dads were playing, they're way ahead of where I am now. They were tough. They were tough dads. Yeah. But again, like more evidence that this is this is a dad's holiday. And the game should be played outside. That's a shame. So those are my America's teams, Kyle. Okay, well, I've got some as well, Chris.

Kansas City guy doesn't know what he's missing. Yeah, well, sucks to suck. America's teams, number one, the USA soccer team. We did this already. You said it, so I'm going to scratch it. And I'm going to put the number one America's team as the DFC, the Dallas fucking Cowboys, because what the hell happened to the Vikings yesterday? The Cowboys happened. Micah Parsons happened.

Tony Pollard is happening all around us everywhere. inside of us. It's happening. Outside of us. Okay. You know that? Is that Ron Paul? It's happening. It's happening.

That's what's going on with the Cowboys right now. They should be talking about it in the first take. Dak making plays. CD Lamb making plays. Tony Pollard making plays. Number three, the University of Southern California. Growing up, they were the standard for collegiate excellence in football. They have the coach.

They have the quarterback, Caleb Williams. So much fun to watch. I can't wait to watch them in the league. Nice to see them back in the America's team. How much does it suck to suck this year and not next year as an NFL team? Exactly. And not get Caleb Williams.

I mean, can you imagine having to, golly, dude. He's just a freak. He made some throws that were just uncharacteristic. Uncharacteristic of even really good quarterbacks. Fun to watch that game. Number three, the Williams Formula One team. They just confirmed an American is to race Formula One in 2023. Logan Sargent of the United States.

he's been brought up through the Williams Driver Academy. It's huge for America. I know a lot of people started watching Drive to Survive the last few years and Formula One became a sexy spectacle for the red, white, much like crypto. Much like crypto. Same guy. Same guy.

This has staying power. That's all the crypto guys have now is Formula One. This has staying power. So I appreciate that. Number four, the New England Patriots special teams. Nice. You know, they're patriotic. They're a team.

That's true. They drafted the guy in the third round that returner. I love to see that. Just to do this. And number five is the Vanderbilt Commodores. Yes, Kyle. They beat the Florida Gators. It's their second win in the SEC in a row.

And they lost, I think it's 26 SEC matchups before that. So congratulations to all the teams on America's list. And yeah. Kyle, they play Tennessee next week. This could be big. This could be like without. And then Hooker, gut rest is ACL. Seriously, I'm not even being funny.

I don't know. Get back. Get back. I feel like when somebody tears their ACL, there has to be a better way to say it as players like condolences or something because it's a big deal when you tear your ACL. Especially late in the season like this, when you're getting ready to be an NFL player, that's just terrible. You're rising that list every week.

You seem to be rising that prospect list. I felt so bad for that kid. It sucks, man. But that's the nature of the game, bro. We have to give a shout out. to Wondale Robinson. His, uh,

he, it was just announced he tore his ACA. Got rest his ACO. That slit film turf. At MetLife. Another one. Another one. Imagine being the Jets and being like,

how much money does it cost us to have this turf? Imagine being an owner who doesn't want to pay for fucking grass. And it's like, do you see what happened to Henning Hooker down there? That was grass. I fucking hate you, Chris. That's probably the way you just did that.

This is the, I mean, I was grass. Okay. Grass is bad. Maybe they need turf down there. Maybe they need more turf. Maybe that's what's wrong with these young,

young players these days. That's the thing I hate, Chris. People say that turf and grass have the same amount of ACL injuries, same amount of vehicle spring. No, this is the independent study that they did. But the one thing you can't quantify. What an independence?

You can't quantify, and I'll get the, I'll get the information. Yeah, get your bibliography out. You can't quantify soreness, though. No, you can't. Yeah. You can't. You can't. And just the beauty of it.

It's a better viewing experience. It's safer. The whole thing. So sorry. I'm trying to find the guy's name from Kansas City. Please. Can't find it. Is he verified?

Did he buy this account? Probably. Can you imagine doing that? I'm confused. Couldn't be me. I'm not confused. I'm not confused. See, Kyle, I occupy the very small part of the graph.

Matt, can you explain it? Yeah, there's a Venn diagram of people who hate Elon and also hate Twitter, but most people hate Elon and love Twitter, then you're outside of it because you hate Elon and you hate Twitter. Yeah, a lot of people are conflicted because they hate Elon, and they're like, yeah, I want him to fail, but I'm kind of making a living on Twitter, and I totally get it.

Some people are making a living on Twitter. That's what I've realized over the last couple days, and I feel terrible about those people. but my mental health. What about my mental health, right? There's people that are making a living on Twitter that are bitching about Twitter? No, they want,

because people don't like Elon, right? And yeah, objectively, he's a fucking... Just like, block him out of your mind. That's hard, man. He might, I don't know. What they say about cyber bullying? Close the computer. Yeah, I don't know if it's a simple.

I'd like him to cyber bully my account into... I just want a cyber truck. It's not existing anymore because I hate the website. Okay. All right. let's get on to foosball Kyle was good though without making what

his face just looks so terrified why he's scared of slender man he's like a come in here and he's got that big brain and that on top of that skinny neck and sometimes I wonder what it's plotting always wonder what it's plotting dude we miss making I hope he comes back soon with

headphones with an offer with an offer at hand okay and if the people who are thinking about buying our house are listening, it's really lovely living there. It really is. You know, the sunrises are beautiful.

They really are. Right out my bedroom window. I thought I'm stealing that house many a time. Yeah, Kyle likes the house. You should do it. You really should. If you're in the car, driving home, thinking about the house, do it.

Please, Kyle, with this woe is me stuff. I've quite literally. America is not sorry, Kyle. Let's talk about Chief's Kingdom. You had to have just, I mean, I just want to say this. I want to put this out there in the atmosphere. Coolest quarterback receiver, tight end duo of all time. Ever.

I'm watching them after the game doing that postgame interview. And, you know, I looked back and, you know, like there's Brady and Gronk, but that felt more like father son, father, son, like delinquent son, you know. It felt cute because you knew it like they were so juxtaposed to each other in personality and everything. And it worked really well. They love each other. They're one of the most iconic duos of all the time. I still think because of the blocking, Grong is the best titan of all time.

As I'm watching Travis last night, though, it's hard to say that for sure. What's the butt? But, you know, like people do ignore the blocking thing. It's like football's not blocking anymore. Travis blocks. Not like Gras, dude. He helps in the protection. We don't need to turn that.

into a Travis doesn't block. He doesn't run block like Rob. He knows that he'd be the first to tell you that Gron is a tackle. I'm just getting out in the universe, so I don't seem crazy. But he also might think he's the best titan of all time. And I wouldn't think it was an asinine thing to think because or Tony Gonzalez, one of these guys. But just the way they were up there doing that interview,

it's just they feed off each other so much. There's so much nonverbal communication. Half of what they do is nonverbal. They just can probably finish each other's sentences, man. It's like, and they're fucking cool. They're fun. And the killer instinct that Patrick Mahomes has, you've talked about it, you played there, and I've watched it from a distance.

There is nobody like him in pro sports right now. There's nobody like him in pro sports. Who else, Kyle? Nobody. I was thinking about a basketball player or something. I was going to say, Janus, until he was. The last guy I could think of. Ain't nobody.

The last guy I could think of was Kobe. And the last teammate I could, the last combination of teammates I thought of was Kobe and Shaq, if they got along really well. Yeah, and that's Patrick and Travis. But Patrick, but Patrick is just such a killer, man. He's such a killer. When he gets the ball back and they have an opportunity to go down and take the lead, me along with everybody else in the world goes, here we fucking go, baby.

Like, get your popcorn out. They're about to go down the field and do this shit again. Tragically, Kyle, I had given out the charges plus seven. That felt like free money because those games are great. So you bet against the... So I did, and I won money. But... And I won money, but then I put, like, a unit on a parlay

between the under and Chargers money line, which would have hit really big, too. I'd have to see this in, like, picture form. And so I was kind of like I was watching... Basically what it means, I won a lot of money. I could have won a lot, a lot of money. And I'm watching the last drive, and I'm like, you know what?

Fuck my redacted amount of money. Like, I want to watch greatness. Like, I'm just going to sit back here and enjoy Patrick Mahomes because you can turn on TV and watch a lot of football on Sunday. You can watch a lot of sports. You can get league pass. You can watch the NBA all week. Like you will not see anything like that.

This game, if I was, if I was, you know, somebody who could make things happen to the NFL and Spanos couldn't or wouldn't pay Justin Herbert for some unforeseen reason because you know they're kind of stingy with the cash there, but they're going to pay him. If they couldn't, I would subsidize paying Justin Herbert to keep him. him in this division with Patrick Mahomes because this is this is sports man best TV this is sports I mean this is I felt like a kid watching sports and after after Patrick throws that touchdown at the end and Travis goes in for the third time and by the way shout out to shout out to Derwin James because incredible in the same in the same light that

we're talking about Justin Herbert against Patrick Mahomes watching the secondary and the second level of that defense go against Travis Kelsey for the last few years has been a lot of fun and Derwin James is like the ultimate competitor Travis gave him a huge uh underneath route at the end to get naked across the middle a mess route and derwin was a shoelace away well the robber who was kind of he kind of the robber kind of was helping to the other side and then before he realized that he couldn't get over there it was just a heavyweight fight though and you look at the beginning of the game and Travis was helping with chips on the edge with the right tackle and wasn't a able to get his head around early and Patrick hits him in the back of the neck.

Travis is frustrated. You watch a lot of these guys around the league. If they get frustrated early, they tend to stay frustrated in a game. Travis understands it with Patrick Undercenter and Andy at the coaching spot that he's going to have more opportunities and he makes the most of them. And when he's waltzing into the end zone, dancing in the end zone, I know how much of a competitor he is and how much he hates that secondary. And he even goes on his pod and he's really nice about Derwin James.

duplexing him onto the ground. But fucking Sunday night, Travis is like, hold my jockstrap for a second. It's funny not to get all cliche brothers thing, but like, I know why they're very competitive. Kelsey and Kelsey, um,

the law firm. But those two like hearing stories about them kind of growing up and like the way they were. I mean like iron sharpens iron and then you know, to get out there on the field like Kelsey's, Jason's really competitive in his own way. And then like Travis is really competitive in his own way. Like the only way you get,

that way. When I watched him last night after the game, I saw a kid at like an AAU tournament, like just a fucking kid out there grinding in Cleveland or Cleveland Heights or wherever. He's probably never changed. She's always been that competitive. And he's just, him and Patrick are the ultimate competitors. And when you put them together, it's amazing, especially because there weren't a lot of other guys throw to. Tony left the game, late with the hamstring. That's a worry. I mean, last week he faked the hamstring injury. And then this week he actually heard his hamstring. And he's going to make a huge different. for them, but he's got to be healthy.

And juju out, Nicole on IR. But he's hitting Fortson. I mean, like that throw to Fortson was just, there were a few throws last night. Justin Herbert made a few throws that, you know, you gawk at. Last week, he made a few

throws that you gawk at. I feel like he's getting healthy again. I feel bad for him, you know, because people measure him based on the outcome of that game. I mean, with under three minutes ago, you go down and get a score like, maybe a little too quick. Too quick.

But that's, you did your job, and then you get the ball back with 30 seconds ago, and you throw a pick. But that ball that Mahomes threw to Fortson was just incredible. I mean, I gasped at a few of these. Forson's so much bigger than you think, too? Well, he's like a big guy, small target. He put on his earhole, dude.

Yeah, he's like a big basketball guy. Yeah. You feel comfortable throwing to him. At the end of the game in the two minute when Justin Herbert's trying to get down in the field, Chris Jones, coming after him. Yep. I mean, that guy played great.

Chris Jones is a guy that understands that you can't throw your fastball every pitch and that there's going to be certain counts where you say, this is my fastball pitch, and he wins with him. Late in games, he sets guys up. You know, you think you haven't figured out. You think you haven't figured out, but really he's figuring you out. And that's really funny. When I was young and obviously not making a comparison to Chris Jones,

but just as a rusher, I was playing a guy named Wayne Gandy, was a KG tackle for the Cardinals. And I beat him with a sack late in the game. And after the game, he came up to me and was like, this is my second year or something like that. He was like, dude, you're gonna, you're gonna be good, man. Like just, just work on this for me

because he was retiring. You know, when you retire and you give everybody all the intel. He was like, set your moves up. He's like, you know, spend the game, you can lose some rushes. Like try to lose a couple rushes and like lull people to sleep and then pick your spot. and win the rush in the big moment.

It's like Babe Ruth led home runs and strikeouts, right? You know, which is a skill because a lot of guys are like, I have to, I'm just going to go, I'm going to go, I'm going to go, which I made a mistake of just going, going, going, but like setting your rush up for that big moment and reaching into the bag for that one move you haven't used yet or varying your tempo, you know, which sometimes great players do. And you think they're loafing, but they're just taking a play off,

they're resting here. And then they catch you off guard. They're like, holy shit, he is going fast. And then they get Willie Gay added pressure from the second level. Frank Clark coordinated rush outside. You know, he hit Justin Herbert almost immediately has the ball reached him on the snap. These are the things that Spags likes to dial up to get people. You know, you get out there in this two minute and you think, okay, no picks, no sacks.

All right, let's go. We're going to do this protection. We get out there and then boom, Willie Gay is in your lap. No question. It throws off your whole two minute. The, uh, the, uh, the four. fourth and inches that Staley punted on late in the third. I don't know if anybody else saw that.

And they had it inside the 10 on the chiefs? No, no. They were on there. There was third quarter. I think they were, it was a 40 yard line and fourth and inches in staley punts. Good for him. Which is a big contrast from last year.

Like, good for him. Kyle, yeah, like, I just, I hate that. because at that point you're up one score. You could make it a two score game. You're at almost midfield. You can't pick up an inch. And you've got the biggest freak at quarterback other than Josh Allen.

Just sneak him, do something. 20 to 16 Chargers, fourth and one at the Chargers 34. How do you think 2716 feels going in the fourth quarter? Nine points sucks. So I'm sure there's some explanation for why not, but like when you're Mr. Aggressive guy, Mr. like, we do the same thing every play.

you know, you're faceless opponent type thing. Like, you have to fucking pick that up. How much fun is it to watch Austin Hecler? It's fun, man. He's so strong.

You can tell, you see him in the weight room doing all his crazy exercises, but when he's on the field, they really do translate. Because he's got these weird angles of leg drive that he's dragging people. The Nick Bolton goal line tackle?

Is that the one you're thinking of? I'm thinking of that. I'm thinking of just a lot of the plays where guys, he'll drag people, and he'll be in these awkward one-legged situations and his balance is great. He's just a very unique player.

I haven't seen there's not a bunch of Austin Ecclars running around. And I don't remember a lot of. I'd have to, I wonder who he, if we went back, like who he would remind you up. Yeah. You know, so just a great game. I hope we see these games for years to come between these two quarterbacks.

The NFL, man, it's good they've got a few years here with really good quarterback classes, coming out and just knowing that you got these two guys in the bank. You know, you have Tua playing really well. In Miami, you have. Taylor, Hineke. Yeah, Hineke. You have, you have Josh Allen, obviously, to me, is in that elite class of quarterbacks.

You do need, you need this matchup if you're the NFL so badly. You need to protect this matchup because this is as good as football gets. And I remember last year people were saying they'd rather have Joe Burrow than Patrick Mahomes. And I'm like, hold on a second. Well, who said that? A lot of people were saying that last year. A lot of people said Joe Burrow over Herbert. I'd have to find the quotes.

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Tennessee, y'all too. 1-8009-9-7-89. Dallas, they were dominant, man. You know, like the chiefs of the best team in the AFC, you just asked me are the Dallas Cowboys the best team in the NFC. I don't want to be overreactive, right? Because they just lost the Packers.

And yeah, like the Vikings will get into that. Let me start with this. Is Minnesota actually good? Okay. Like this is a big roller coaster of public opinion as big of a roller coaster within a calendar week that I've seen in recent memory like, holy shit, they just went up and beat the bills. Like that was an incredible football game. Game of the year. The whole thing, they're eight and one. We were worried about their point differential. We were worried about who they play. Worried about some of these close games. All their games have been one score games, I think save for one in their wins. And they're two losses have been enormous blowouts. So you know how they get to a negative two point differential.

I think there have been 146. I don't remember what the number was, 146 teams in the history of the NFL that were 8 and 1 or 8 and 2 because that's what they are now. And only one has ever had a negative point differential. That is the 22 Minnesota Vikings. So I'm not saying they're not good because you have to, you have to win close games to be good. And they've won a lot of close games. biggest problem with their two blowout losses, and this is what I will hold them, I'll hold against them going to the playoffs, is they got blown out by the best two teams in the NFC. So the very teams that you're going to have to beat to get in the dance, beat you 40 to 3 and 24 to 7. Yep.

And they're a team, to your point, they win close games, and I think going into this game yesterday, they were number two in the NFL in fourth quarter scoring. Yep. they don't turn the ball over much. They take the ball away a lot. None of that stuff showed up yesterday. Missed opportunities earlier. Six minutes left in the first quarter,

you drive down the field methodically. You have your guy Hawkinson open. He drops it. They would have doubled their points total on the game with that touchdown alone. It was a good ball from Kirk, back left of the end zone. Just T.J. knows he's got to come down with that.

He'll be the first to tell you. He would be the first to tell you. The next way they call his number again, Kirk sales won. So it's just like things in conjunction with each other. I want to talk about Tony Pollard. Obviously, Zeke was out there as well, and in the red zone he was used. But Pollard, man, the unique combination of patience and smoothness, is smoothness a word,

being smooth behind the line of scrimmage. He leaves the league in yards per carry and yards after contact is what Tony Romo said yesterday. The speed at which he hits the line of scrimmage is the key determining factor. It's like when a back gets to speed before he hits the line of scrimmage, it's a tough tackle to make with one arm for a D-Lyman. Yeah. And it's a tough fit for somebody to make on the second. No question.

And a lot of the, I saw something like he had 100 yards over expectation or something yesterday. Like he wasn't just, it wasn't just, hey, big holes. And I get the Zieg thing. Like, Zieg has been a staple for a long time in Dallas. And honestly, if they go on a run, he's not only, he deserves to be the guy down at the goal line and that sort of thing, get the touchdowns.

I know, but for Jerry and for the Cowboys faithful that he's like a deity to. And, you know, he's been a great player for a number of years. It's well deserved. You know, like he's got to, if you go on a run, it's just good to have Zee concluded. And his role might be different than it was in his prime. But this is how it goes sometimes. Like players, their primes don't match up with when, when the team, you know, makes that big run. So it'll be interesting to see how he's used down the stretch.

He's getting the touchdowns now. but this guy, he's breathed a lot of life into them. And, you know, I look at the cowboys, and the first thing I think about, and D.C. was awesome. You saw the throw to CD Lamb. That was supposedly the furthest throw out of bounds that anybody caught, and it had to be out of bounds. It was a beautiful throw. It was a beautiful catch. And you think about the 40 points and the efficiency and everything, and you think, holy shit,

was there really a time where we were talking about Cooper Rush? No offense to the gentleman. but you know this offense he did great he did great he did what he was supposed to do they're a great team they're a great team and and you know i think about the offense and all that we've talked about tony polly but it is the heartbeat the heartbeat of this team is the defense and it's micha parsons with 10 pressures it's it's tank lawrence who's just a total dog he's underrated um you know parsons got after it early i think six sacks nine knockdowns their first 23 plays like Armstrong had a speed to power on Dar esau that ended up getting out of the game.

And we know Darisaw had some concussion stuff last week, right, Reed? And then with it again in a short week, O'Connell said he's definitely not playing. Because it's Thursday. Yeah, they're playing Thursday. And he might not play a lot the rest of the year, though. That's the thing I worry about with two. You know what I mean? And it's scary for the Vikings, too.

Scary for the Vikings. And I wrote, yeah, number 64, Blake Brandle filled in second year from Oregon State. He's a beaver. He's filling in for an all pro potential guy at left tackle. we saw him false start with Micah over and we saw him overset. He gave up a sack. But he needs to understand the road doesn't get any harder than playing Micah Parsons. Boy, that is a baptism.

That's, yeah. You've played the best. Now you got a lot of ball ahead of you. Keep your head up. The shit will slow down for you. I know you're in your second. But next week, you get Judon. You get Uche.

You get all the exotic stuff. And Junot's a different beast. But if you show up to fight the heavyweight fight, you can do it. When you show up to fight Micah Parsons, you don't know if you'll lay a hand on it. There's no, there's no comparison, right? Like, you know, we talk about DPOI. We talk about, you know, stats. There's other guys that are up there around Micah Parsons, but like,

Michael Parsons is scary. He's just scary. There's no, you know, they run a scheme there, but it's not a scheme thing when he wins rushes. I mean, like this guy, when he took the up and under on this poor kid for his second sack, because the first one, as you pointed out, was not on Dar esau. I mean, that's. No, Dar esau made a great reaction on the double move.

And then Micah went over the top. good hands, staying alive, but didn't move forward. Yep, so it was nine, 10 yards. But the whole thing is, you know, seeing him make that inside move, like he's a technician, he sinks that rip, he leans into it, he uses the rip to pull his hips around, just like really good rushes. They got great inside moves and the inside moves turn into their outside moves. And by that, I mean, there's no difference in how their hip gets around

at the top of the rush of seven yards and the way it gets around on an inside rush where you're getting washed down. And if you saw that rush in slow motion, it is just, it's art, man, like his steps, he bounds into the inside move, he sinks the rip, he pulls his hips around so fucking fast, man. Be like water. It's technique, it's talent, it's, this kid's incredible.

So, yeah, Dallas's ceiling is pretty high. We'll find out Christmas, guess the fucking Nielsen rating on that game. Eagles, Cowboys, like a game or two separated. I think they might break the meter, dude. When's the last time the Eagles and the Cowboys were this good? I mean, maybe when I was playing,

but I don't think so, because I think the Cowboys were down the year we won the Super Bowl in Philly. So I don't know how... I don't know if they ever have been. TVs might break. One funny thing from this game, by the way, it was 37 points

with eight minutes remaining in the third quarter for the Cowboys, which is unbelievable. My other gripe is, take your key starters out, Coach McCarthy. You've got these guys in there. Michael Parsons went to the tent. He came back out.

And he's playing still. In the game, you're winning by 40 points, 37 points. Dante Fowler, another guy that got home. Yeah, Parsons, here's the thing about the Parsons thing, Kyle, because I agree with you. I mean, on the servers, me and Reid were sitting there, we were like, what the fuck he's still doing the game?

But I was going to say, you know how this is, but you weren't a rusher. When rushers, when we get up, Like this is how, bro, Dan Quinn's like, I want my guy winning DPOY. But if I'm Mike McCarthy, I'm saying, get the fuck out of the game.

And that's true, but if I love you and you're going to love me for it. And if I'm Michael Parsons, I'm like, you fucking serious? Yeah. Yeah. Mike, you're serious.

Micah, you wanted to wear black jerseys last week. Go see that. Mike, Mike, I can win DPOI. Come on, man. This is where, how do I get buckets,

if not up 35 points? After that, so it's 20 to three at the half. After the half, the Vikings come out. The secondary looked more aggressive. said Patrick Peterson with a TFL, you know what I'm saying, like Harrison Smith flying downhill. And then you get a third, I think it was a third down. Zadarius moves inside over Zach Martin.

And I'm a CBS guy, so I'll give Tony some credit here, Tony Romo. He kind of pokes fun at the move of Zadarius lining up inside and a two point. He said, uh, find a matchup you like, but that's like Zach Martin. I don't know, buddy. I laughed so hard. And then he got stoned. Yeah. Tony Foller. I saw the play. I saw the play. And, and Zadari is just a man child, dude. He's a beast, dude. And he really does make a lot of hay in there in the B gap.

Take the other B gap. Jack Martin's just boring, good, man. He's so boring. It's just boring. Okay, that's what I got. Okay, so on the other side of the NFCs, Philly kind of survives. And I don't want to be overreactive.

Of course I don't. You know, Dallas looks incredible. Philly looks human. I don't want to be overreactive in any direction because right now you're going to say, oh, the Colts are a new team, the whole thing. The Colts are who we thought they were before they became who we thought they were.

Exactly. The Colts are some version of the hope we had for them in the first five weeks of season. They beat the Chiefs 2017 now. In the Sky game. So it's not like the Colts defense has not played great before. It's not like the Colts are not a tough football team. Jeff Saturday obviously can coach just fine. You know, he can delegate just

fine. He can manage the game just fine. He can motivate just fine. These guys are motivated, right? And I hope everybody is over that and has accepted that. Well, I think everybody's accepted that, Kyle, but I think I hope you've accepted, and you know, your ilk, you're busting with the boys and

any of the, any of those type of people mean, the people, the people in your corner, the people that are of your kind on this argument, they're on your side on this argument, which I think is just overreacting to a few monologues. you know, like overreacting to Joe Thomas's monologue, overreacting to, you know, because...

I like Joe Thomas's monologue. So wait, so pick one. You hope everybody's over it, but... I hope everybody's over it and will allow Jeff Saturday to be a coach. I agree with you. Yeah. But what I'm saying is it's just become the most silly conversation where, you know, like people point out something that's objectively the truest thing

I've ever heard. It's like, this guy cut the line. There's a bunch of coaches that coached a long time that, you know, many of them former players that don't get an opportunity. And that kind of sucks. It does make a mockery of the process, but maybe the process sucks as well. Make better friends with the owner. Yeah. I mean, you know, like... Tell me I'm wrong.

You're wrong. And nothing has been proven. That's how... But he needed a stand in at the end of the year. Like somebody that he knew wasn't going to... No question. He knew wasn't going to burn the thing down. The truth lies somewhere in between.

Yeah. Okay. So like number one, the process was fucked up. Number two, people think it's maybe harder than it is to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, to, step in and delegate and be a head coach. And also there's a lot of staff members. There's a ton of staff members that are coaching. There's other people that can help him.

And they've strung together two weeks where, all right, here's the deal. They beat the Raiders. Great job. And they played with the Eagles. And you know what? The Eagles, the Eagles look sloppy. The Eagles, first drive, you come out, you give up points to Indy. That's the first time all year they scored.

And then the first touchdown since Christmas, was 2021 for them in an opening drive. I mean, you had Jonathan Taylor going off early. They made Bradbury tackle. He wouldn't. Long run. They get in the end zone. So you're down 7-0. And then I'm seeing a first and 35. The Eagles have their first and 35.

You're just like, hey, shit is going wrong today. I've seen a couple of firsts. Three screens. Yeah. I've seen a couple of first and 35s this year. They're never good. I don't think teams run a stat. read I'm not serious but like

first and 35 like teams what are their records if they see first than 35 in a game because that's usually a sign that's a canary in the coal mine you know like things are not good for that team today and so you follow that up Jalen Hertz gets sacked out of field goal range it was just an abhorrent situation

for them and then two turnovers in the second half at least unless I'm missing one you know there was a point here and the defense really to me is the lead, right? You bring in Sue, you bring in Joseph, who we know, people made a big deal about the Robert Quinn thing. I made a big deal about the Robert Quinn thing. People asked me

some fan, I think it was a gotcha because this guy was just in a bad mood yesterday, but somebody tweeted at me, well, why isn't Robert Quinn getting any pressure? Well, Matt Ryan got the ball out in two and a half seconds. That would make him third fastest on the day, and Robert Quinn got 10 snaps. Okay, so like, watch the fucking game.

Do the math. Okay? And just be happy the fact that the defense stepped up in every way they could have. I mean, there were multiple chances for this game to go really south. I'll give you two of them. You're down 13-3, fourth and 10 at midfield in the third quarter. You've got the ball.

Jalen Hertz and Siriani, they roll the dice, they go for it. You turn the ball over on down. So you're giving them the ball down two scores. It could be three scores very shortly here in a game where you haven't been able to get anything going. And who splits a sack to force a punt? Sue and Joseph.

Okay, so like you immediate returns on this investment, right? Not to mention like the first play of the game, Joseph's in there Stonewall and people make it a tackle. These guys were really good. And as a sidebar, after the first 15 minutes, I think Jonathan Taylor went 12 for 20, 12 attempts for 20 yards and a fumble loss.

So like they were busting his ass after the beginning of that ball game. That was one situation. They shut the door and said, hey, we're not going down fucking 20 to 3 here on the road. the other one was not soon after it's 13 to 3 at midfield and Fletcher Cox forces a hold you get Milton the young kid from Louisiana Tech with a sack

and they miss a field goal now like listen you might say they miss a field goal either way it was only two three yards sack but that ball you know at the end of that field goal is just it's just wide so all these things you know I'm trying to give props to these guys inside you know the defense was huge you talk about sacks

man. There was a third and five at the end of that ball game where the Eagles are, they have, there's a chance that they go down in this game, right? Or even bigger. It was 13 to 10, I think, at this point. So if they go down 20 to 10, this ball game's over

essentially, it was under a few minutes left to go on the game. Paris Campbell, long completion down inside the five. And the defense stands up and why does it stand up on third and five? By the way, on second down, Brandon Graham almost has a strip sack if the tight end inexplicably isn't flailing behind Matt Ryan.

I mean, like, there's one of those weird plays where BG wins on second down. He's about the tomahawk the ball out. And I can picture it in my head. And the tight end just like falls in front of him. He's like, fuck, man. He had his chance in a few minutes. But the guy that stepped up so big for the Eagles, man. And I got off the couch on this.

There's a Chris off the couch moment. It was Hassan Reddick on third and five. And what a gorgeous fucking rush. And a beautiful rush in the red zone where, He's a speed rusher, right? He's not just running up the field. You know, Matt Ryan ran 17 miles an hour last week. Flying Ryan.

You got, yeah, you got to watch out for this motherfucker now. So he's not flying up the field. He goes to power. He feels this rookie. They got a rookie left tackle in there. He feels his weight. And he just turns him and counters inside for the biggest sack of the game so far. And they had a few of them.

So that was a huge one. And then third and nine at the 40, under a minute to go. I mean, the field goal wins the game for them because it went 16-3 instead of 23. 16 to 10 instead of 20-10. B-G with the sack just runs the fucking tackle over, dude. And they were picking on this rookie here.

But just a beautiful, beautiful day, if you're a fan of D-Line play in Philly, that rotation's deep. They're awesome. And if they can all win. Yeah, yeah. With the exception of Limbaugh, who can win? He can win.

but he's not a run he's not you know an edge rush he's not going to rush your edges inside he will push the fucking pocket and other people but did you see he will did you see him on that sack who's the center for the damn quote uh he's uh on the sack that he split with sue uh is it ryan kelly the center um man watch the way if you can pull it up in the next few seconds but the way lindval joseph ryan kelly's like okay i'm anchoring i'm anchoring oh my legs fell off. It's like it's like hop hop. Oh my god, now I'm on my knees. Okay, I'll explain blocking lymphol Joseph in the past. It's like you've seen those videos where the kids hop out of their car while it's moving at two miles an hour and they do a TikTok dance

and then they try to go back in the car and they can't get in so they try to stop their car that's rolling out slowly. Yes. And it's like, oh, I got it. I got it. And then it's like, oh, he's getting a little bit faster. It's getting faster. Dude, honestly, it happened to me recently. I was cleaning out my truck and I was in it was in drive and I didn't realize there was a neutral or something and I tried to get out of that motherfucker and it was moving I was like damn this thing's heavy that's Limbaugh. That's Limbaal Joseph. Look at this

look at this guy right back here. Look at this shit that center went down to his house. I mean he's not even getting off the ball but it's just the strength that Ryan Kelly's like oh my fold it him like a taco watch like oh my god there's just so much and sue was winning his rush at the three so I mean beautiful beautiful

beautiful job by the defense they deserve the game ball. That D-line deserves the game ball in this game. And then the O line was dominant. I just want to say this. They gave up a couple sacks. One of the sacks was Unique in Gokwe on a strip sack in the third quarter. First play, they're trying to go deep.

And they actually Miles Sanders is the one blocking him. So, you know, a couple guys had sacks, but they gave up one hurry on the day outside of those plays. There were plays, man, that were so important. Like the touchdown to Cuez, totally clean

pocket. And then I want you to think about this one, Eagles fans. You're under two minutes. You're trying to win this ballgame. The biggest play on that decisive drive was the wheel route to Miles Sanders. You get a linebacker in coverage. Five seconds is how long Jalen Hertz had. Five seconds. Totally clean pocket. No one wins for five seconds. You can melt butter in the microwave in five seconds. Hell yeah. I might do that when I get home. It's delicious. For science. So like Jalen Hertz just back there baking a cake. He could have had seven seconds. This O-line deserves a lot of credit. These guys

were trying to run a lot of stunts up front Indy was and just they weren't getting home. Really nice job by that front and a beautiful low red touchdown. I have never seen a less contested money down in an NFL

ball game. Third and five in the Reds under whatever was it was it was goal to go and the Red Sea parted, man. It was insane. It looked like they were running some sort of a quarterback power or counter or something. And then he just decided to go right up the middle and there was nobody there.

So gutsy call and executed to perfection by both teams. Somebody asked me if there were media members who in the spirit of Jeff Saturday like podcasters or analysts that could become head coaches.

I'll give you a second to think about that. But for me it's Darius Butler, man. I think Darius Butler does a great job. I think Darius Butler is really, really smart, and honestly, he just, I could see him on a sideline coaching. Devin McCordy. Devon McCordy's still playing. But he did media with me last week on his byweek. That's, hey, nice loophole.

And it's fucked up of you to leapfrog his brother or Jason. But Jason's already in it, and he's so good at it, he should stay in it. I think that Devin is such a lifelong patriot that he's just like, football. He's got a real football coach voice. I asked him some questions last week, and he answered it. and I was like, Bill Belichick is talking to me. My guy, Dev, would be the first to tell you he's got to catch that pick. He was like yesterday.

It hit him right in the chest. It looked like me out there. What a guy is. In zone coverage against the Houston Texans in primetime in New England. They dropped me. Ball hit me in the dick. It's not hard to do, Kyle, but it's a joke. I get it.

Okay. I've never been hit in the dick with a ball. This shit didn't hurt that bad. But yeah, it was a bit. embarrassing more than anything. That's how Devin looked yesterday, but it hit him right in the chest. It happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it happens. He was like, yeah, this guy will throw me another one. And he, and he threw them other ones. But Zach Wilson is going to be a lot to digest there. Okay, so this is the last really big game yesterday, at least in my opinion, as big as a three to three ball game could be, you know, going deep into the fourth quarter.

I mean, this was, I was watching Good Morning Football this week. And Jamie Erdall, who's in there now for Kay Adams. She left the show this year. Jamie does a great job. Jamie, she was appealing to young Jets fan. She was like, listen, I know there's all this bad juju around this matchup. I know it's like 14, 16 straight, but like, do this for the young kid in the Garrett Wilson, Jersey. Like, he doesn't know.

She doesn't know. The kid who gets ice cream after the win. Yeah, the kid doesn't know. The only thing a kid who's nine years old knows is the solo lead jets, right? Like in some stories about Mark Sanchez. We don't have to, the whole thing doesn't have to weigh. But these poor kids are going to remember that this is, they're never going to get over this. This is the beginning.

The cycle is beginning again for Jets fans. Like these poor kids, they had to watch that game. the way it ended. And Jamie Erdall said, like, you do it for the kids. Like, I hope not. I hope the kids weren't watching this. And the thing that sucks is, yeah, the Patriots won. They made a huge play at the end of the game, but the Jets are losing games. You know, like, Zach Wilson is not doing even the basic things, checkdowns properly. He's not hitting his guys giving yourself an opportunity. When things are taken away downfield, some of the greatest quarterbacks that have ever played succeed in checkdowns. You look at Tom Brady. He's making a living

on a living on checkdowns. Seriously. I mean, he's pretty good. He's great down the field. He's great down the field, but when they put the entirety of the defense back there, he doesn't have a hubris that stands in the way of him checking the ball down. And he's also pinpoint accurate there.

And Zach Wilson, I think we talk about the field all we want. But off the field is the number one thing, the easiest thing to do after you have a bad game or your team has a bad game. is stand tall at the podium and say, my bad. Like in a football facility, my bad doesn't work because, you know, people are like, we know.

Yeah, we saw it. Like, you don't need to tell us, which is the most fucked up thing. But when you're talking to fans, and you are also talking to your teammates because they watch, they have the internet too. Their guys probably standing, you know, was that at the podium or at his locker,

but there's guys probably right off camera. There's people in that room. You're that you are the face of an organization, man. and for you to get up there after that game, and I went back and watched every throw just to make sure that, you know, before I killed him this morning, that I wasn't going to kill him for no reason.

I know it was cold. I know it was windy. But like you said, it's windier at BYU. There was a ball. Well, it was windy for Mack Jones to, and I know his shot chart looked like a bunch of layups, but, you know, when you're throwing the ball in the flat to MIMS in the third or fourth quarter, there was a moment,

and he sailed it over his head. It was a second ball in the flat. I remember that day that he just missed on. And Mims, they cut the camera away a little quick, but Mims was like, come on, man. You know, there was a Garrett Wilson play where he didn't get targeted, and he's like, come on, man. Like when you start to see that, that palms up thing,

when you start seeing palms up, it's not good. And you know, I know that people are gonna say, we're gonna stick together and that sort of thing, but like when Garrett Wilson, the one and he's a rookie that that talks like a man after the game and says like this shit is unacceptable we need to fix it it's that this is a six and three ball ball club or six and four that if if you had told me the jets were six and four and after a game the locker room would look like that to begin the season you told me that I just said there's only one reason

it's like that it's because of the quarterback not it's because of the quarterback according to Zach Wilson. It's not about the quarterback. But when they ask you, they give you an opportunity to take ownership and you just say no. Like an immediate no. There's no context around it. Early in the week, you're being a wise guy. You're joking about

like you guys, you guys didn't, why didn't you get a head coaching gig or something to the media? And like that sort of thing. That's the type of shit you do when you're doing a victory lap. He seems really immature. It seems like he's got a child mind, honestly. Like even from when he got drafted and the guys were

growing up their sets and he was just sitting there like, you remember the picture? Yes, you thinking he should have threw his setup? No, I just think that it shows that like he does like, Cougar Slayers. Something,

come up with something funny. I don't know. No, I don't think that's fair. But I think that's a back pocket. I think you're taking, I think you're taking Killsack Wilson Day to heart. I would say reading the room is as important in being a teammate as performing on the field.

Emotional intelligence, accountability. One thing we were taught as players is after. After a loss, you say why I affected that poorly, what I messed up on. And after a win, you say we. You know, we did this really well. And that's just a simple rule to live by. Here's the deal, dude.

I went back and watched everything. I watched it twice because, you know, the fucked up shit was, and people saw this clip if you follow us on Twitter, poor Scott, resident Jets fan, had to leave the building. Like, legitimately walked off. I heard his footsteps like all the way down all the stairs and I heard the door shut. Like I think he had to walk outside. Okay.

And we're all just watching. This is mid-return because he knows what's happening. Like, you know, you see the train coming. And we're all sitting there gawking. And for 30 seconds, I'm kind of like, man, this is, you can't help. Now I got people in the jets I hurt for right now, like Joe Douglas, Vinnie Curry, like people that I really love. And, you know, there's some great players there. Mike Remmers.

Dwayne Brown, like people that I fuck with, man. So, you know, it's hard for me as a football fan to sit there and like the rest of America kind of like you can't look away from a car accident. And it's it's kind of funny because you're just like, how could it go any worse, right? This was your Super Bowl. It's like the get the monkey off your back. Instead this. And then it hit me 15 seconds later that it's not funny because the Jets killed a big parlay for me too. So the Jets hurt everybody.

The Jets touch everyone, dude. and and Zach Wilson is to blame. You have two chances before the half in a field goal game. Bill Belichick knew the under was going to hit. It's fourth in inches and they kick a field goal early in that game. He's like, no, this is all we'll need. He's got two chances at midfield before the half, and he almost throws a pick on third and two.

And then you get the ball back with like under 30 to go and you're at the 40. Like a lot of quarterbacks in this league in a field goal game, I'm terrified that, you know, like you're going to, going to pick up one chunk, two chunks, and you're going to kick a field goal before the half. I'm not even afraid, not in the least bit. And then at the end of the game, your last possession is first and 10, back foot. And this is one of my biggest grights with him. I'm no fucking Tom and Mansky of quarterbacks.

Back to back to back to back AAU national champs. Right. Something like that. And I think Travis Kelsey was on one of those teams. Definitely. So first and 10, back foot to more. And he's out of bounds. So it's so nonchalant, man.

It's the first player your fucking drive with a chance to win the game and you're just flicking it off. And sometimes when I watch him, I'm like, yeah, you know, the weird arm angle stuff. He's kind of like dollar store Patrick Mahomes. And I'm not trying to, I wouldn't kill the guy so bad if you were more accountable. You see how this thing goes? But when you're off your back foot, when you're fucking, you just don't look like you're you're just flicking the ball out there, dude.

And you're off target. Second and 10, you almost throw a pick. Third and 10, you're sack. there's a hold, so you get another chance. Third and short, you're behind the six in the flat for a tackle for loss. So like, they're such a quarterback away. And that's what's so sad for this defense. By the way, Reed, if your quarterback's name is Wilson, you are a quarterback away.

The Broncos, we'll talk about them in a little bit. 20 points is all they need to score to be like Super Bowl favorites right now. 17. 18 points. 18 points. 18 points. 18 points. That's that magic number. would be behind the Eagles for best record.

Well, all these fucking guys needed six points, you know, or whatever it was. Too safe. Or too safety. Listen, I feel terrible for the Jets for a number of reasons. Number one, I feel terrible for the defense. And this is what widens the chasm, Kyle, the gap, the divide in that locker room. The defense is wasted, man. You have a championship defense here, whether it was Quinn Williams, Williams,

Lawson, you know, Clemens, Huff, Franklin Myers, Johnson. and everybody got to the quarterback, you know, Mosley on fourth and three, heroic stop, third and one, Quentin Williams and Whitehead, heroic stop. You know, all like every, this defense is like, bro,

everything you put in front of us today, we fucking met the challenge. We stood up on the road. We stood up and we gave you a chance to win. And you can't, you can't even put together one drive, man. That's the deflating thing. And, you know, it's tough.

And the way the game ends is, and maybe it's worth it for Bill Belichick to draft a return solely to return kicks and puns in the third round, right? Because beating the Jets is like, it's paramount. But me and Reed looked last night, 50 plus yard touchdowns under a minute to go in the game. I think there's 16 total, not including special teams. So special teams, there's a couple punt returns.

There were two, I think, all the time. That's right. This one, Deshawn, and then one from the 80s. But just even take offense. The way that they lost that game is so fucking unprecedented. I think like there was also a stat first time in 40 years that defense's special team scored the first touch of the game that late in the game. So like it was just such an unprecedented way to lose such a hurtful game for the Jets.

You know, 16 times in the history of football, if you count offense. And we had one a couple weeks ago with DJ Moore, 16 times in the history of our great game, Kyle. Has something that fucked up happened to a team. A lot of football. Something that fucked up. 50 plus yards, including special teams like 19 or 20 times. But you get the idea.

Was there a block in the back? That's the, there was a block in the back. Because he was blatant to me. There was a block in the back. Would it have changed the game? No, but that's never stopped people from calling that before. And here's the thing. And it's so unpatriot to block in the back on a play like that.

First thing I thought was, what? Bill's going to put that guy in. That's not Beamer ball? No, people. You know what I mean? Bill's going to put that guy in the trunk. Yeah. So, you know, very, very lucky that that wasn't called.

And then, you know, Greg Zerline, you watch him kick field goals look like fucking sliders out there. So, I mean, if they had to kick that ball, there was no guarantee that they won that game. There was no guarantee they won that game. So I heard a Jets fan say this last night, and I thought this was very provocative. Scott was like, we need to go get Nathaniel Hackett, rescue him. and we need to get Aaron Rogers. We need Aaron Rogers.

We need Nathaniel Hacking next year. So, you know, if I'm Aaron Rogers and I'm looking at the Jets right now, and I'm looking at Garrett Wilson, and I'm looking at the tight ends they've got. I'm not saying that they're great offensively. They have all the weapons of the world, but Brees Hall will be back.

Better situation than he's currently in. It's good for, thank you, Zach Wilson, if I'm the Jets, for showing me who you are early enough that I can make a move. And probably more direct flights from any of the airports in and around New York to South America. Yeah, that's true. You can get as much ayahuasca as you want. You get as much to get there than from Green Bay.

Fuck yeah. Reed? Yeah. So, I mean, and on the other side of it, we haven't even talked about that their offense didn't look that great. At least they were able to put together a bunch of dinkin and Duncan and screens and they gash them on some runs. But, you know, there's another team that might be in my heart of hearts. what I want to see is Aaron Rogers relocated. Those two places would be a lot of fun.

I'm being, it's totally spectacular. Yeah, those are two prime candidates there. Or Washington. Yeah. And I hate that for Taylor Heineke. You know, Kyle topically, like the Pilgrims, they were supposed to end up in Washington. They ended up in New England.

And they were escaping religious suppression. They were looking for, right? Same thing with Aaron Rogers. He just wants to be able to be who he is. Do you think Zach Wilson will start next week against Chicago? Yeah, but here's the thing. If I'm the Jets, I heard what he said. And maybe not.

You know what? If I'm Robert Sala, I don't start him. So it's going to be two backups? You lose the locker room, right? Right now you're kind of in a situation where you are, like, looking at this defense, the receivers, like... Is it Mike White? Who is it? It's Joe Flick.

It could be Joe Flacko, bro. Guy who's won a Super Bowl. Yeah, no, and it could be Mike White at some point. but it could be Joe Flacco too Joe Flacco has played three weeks this season is more passing touchdowns than Russell Wilson that's the reason for me I'm looking at what Joe Flacco's done on tape this year

you beat the Browns with him you know like he can stretch the field he can stretch the field Tori Smith said Joe Flacko there's the best deep ball he's ever I believe you have it. Tori Smith also thinks that every game should be in a dome and the same thing with and I don't know

that I love Tori Smith I don't know that you can Sam Darnold this one is the only thing. Isn't that weird that Sam Darnold was so bad, but somebody gave up a bunch of fucking capital for him. And right now the problem is there's so many damn quarterbacks in the draft next year. And maybe somebody's in love with Zach Wilson, and they think if he escapes that market and whatever. So the last 13 games, now it's 14 and 0 in favor of the Patriots.

Zach Wilson? Started with Scott's to shake his head. Did you know that streak started with me and the Patriots? 16 Patriots. 16 Patriots. I just want to take credit for this streak. That's good, Chris. Yeah.

Zach Wilson, he's now 0 and 4 with two passing touchdowns and seven picks in his career against the Patriots. The only quarterback with three plus starts and a lower pass rating versus Patriots is Sam Darnold. Kyle, I saw some really bad stats floating around. I know today is like, you know, some holiday, there's holidays. You know how there's holidays? This should be like

kill Zach Wilson Day where everybody online just shares something negative about Zach Wilson. Because that's what I feel like it was this morning when I logged on. This is from Doug Claus and Zach Wilson's first 20 career starts are a little too close to Jamarcus Russell's for comfort. First 20 starts, Russell, 6.2 yards of attempt. Wilson, 6.3.

Touchdown interception, 15 to 13, Jamarcus Russell. He wasn't that bad. Wilson, 13 and 16. Passer rating, 70.6. pass the rating, 70 points up. So it's bad. Like Zach Wilson in seven games this year

is from Zach Rosenblatt. Zach Wilson, seven games this year, four touchdowns, five interceptions, 55.6% completions. Johnny Mansell in nine games in 2015, seven touchdowns, five interceptions. Six ounces of coaching. 57.8, Kyle.

57.8 completions. In 2021, Wilson had the worst completion percentages in the NFL at 55.6. 2020, through 11 games. Wilson has the worst completion percentage in the NFL at 55.6. Also in the last non-NFL seasons, there have been just six games where an offense gained 105 yards or fewer. It was the Jets yesterday. The Jets in 2021 versus Buffalo, Chicago in 2021 versus Cleveland.

The Jets in 2019 versus New England, Washington in 2018 versus Philly, and the Jets in 2017 versus Denver. Imagine this team with Justin Fields, who they could have drafted. Do you know the Jets would have been first place in the AFC East yesterday with a win? Well aware. He's aware. You know where they're at now. Here's the thing. I need to speak. Yeah, go ahead. Talk.

This is wild. Take it away. You know, when you go back to the last team that was good with the New York Jets, it was the Rex Ryan Jets, they ran the ball, they played defense. They were a good sound team. Who was their quarterback? Mark Sanchez. Mark Sanchez could do a lot of good things. Save it.

He ran the play action well. He didn't need to do too many things. It's like Zach Wilson He throws down three quarter You know He's thrown in the flat to a wide receiver Throwing out and he's dropping his arm angle For no damn reason

Dude that's the thing that drives me crazy It's so fucking nonchalant Just just throw the ball over your shoulder You brought up Mark Sanchez Scott Because I was listening to Mark talk about Turnovers in the boot game And how you cannot throw picks On naked

I remember a couple weeks ago He threw that Aaron interception on the right side Like a nonchalant pick And Sanchez is just hammering. He's like, the only rule on naked is no interceptions. Throw it away, run with it. You can't throw interceptions. He didn't

do naked interceptions yesterday, but the errant throws and the nonchalant seems to be like an overarching theme with him. That was a defiant, no, I did not let the defense down. It was not like, no, I don't think, I was like, you know, I don't want to go there. No, no, next question. It was no. Fuck you guys

and fuck the defense. Seems like a brat. And, you know, hey, listen, here's the thing. We try to be real fair on this show, but I've played defense on teams where we, Kyle, you've seen us play back in the day, like we would fucking lose nine to six, okay? I lost a Monday night football like, you know, 12-9, you know, like shut Marshawn Lynch down the whole thing.

So if, if Kellman's got up there at his locker after that game and was like, nah, like there would be a fight in the parking lot. Yeah. And so, and Kellyn Clemens would never, because he's the best. Yeah. You see what like being accountable does?

Yeah, it's like, it's a people business at the beginning of it. It's a people business. Yeah, we're playing football, but it's like, it has to do with humans. That just pissed me off as a defensive player. I'm like, goddamn, did you let us down? We were, we were, it was a Herculean effort out here for us. Fourth and three, third and one. As most of them have been.

Six sacks. Fuck, it's getting old. The jet, that definitely would have killed Carl. The Jets killed Carl. If you watched Kirby's enthusiasm, the Jets killed Carl. Yesterday was the type of day that that's what. Yesterday is why Carl's not with us anymore, dude. Yesterday's why in Big Daddy said the goddamn Jets.

It's the same, it's the same thing. You know, I have a, I have a five-year-old son now. I feel guilty from, you know, putting Jets anything on him at this point. He's going to have options. I'm going to give him options. Why don't you get him a Bill's hat? I don't want him to grow up in this. Get him a Bill's hat.

In the same old Jets world. Who's 1B? There is no 1B. It's, that's it. There's no one B. The hard part for you is your Jets Yankees. You can't even like Jets Mets. No.

Well, at least I have something goes. That's the rhymes and everybody. I'm into that. So socially that's tough for you, you know? It's fine. I mean, you know, I look at the Yankees for some saving grace sometime. All right. So the bills,

the bills survived, okay? We're about to do one words in a second, but Bill survived. The operative word here is luck. Like they were lucky early. First off, This week was insane. I was talking to Eric Wood.

So this is from Eric Wood, Kyle. The team president and VP of communications had to go get Dionne Dawkins from his house because the plow had been stuck and they couldn't only get within a quarter mile of him. So Ron walked through the snow to Dion so Dionne could follow him back through. So like Dionne Dawkins walked a quarter mile through like a cutout in the snow? No, there was also a tackle. Hunter Brown. This guy, when you're 6'9, just fucking walk through the snow.

He can see the Caribbean from where he's standing. Yeah. So he's so holed up in his fucking house that they got the neighbors are like, what a college town, huh? The best. What a town buffalo is. Your neighbors shovel your driver. What a community feeling like all the fans share in this one. It took some guys four hours to get to the airport or whatever it was.

Wasn't it 2014 that this also happened? And they had to go to Detroit. And snowmobiles, all the fans around their house has got the players on snowmobiles to the airport. Yeah. Imagine showing up at the fucking airport with a snowmobile. I mean, incredible. That just trumps the Packers little bicycle thing down to the practice field, you know? Put everybody on a damn snowmobile.

Ride them to the airport. Ride snowmobiles. You'll win game. But needless to say, it's very disruptive. It's disruptive to your, your. We are very routine-based animals as NFL players. Like, why is this not happening at the exact same time? Yeah, well, yeah, a little bit.

Yeah. So, you know, we like the structure. We like travel to be on time. And everybody was like, this was the dumbest take in the world, that this proved that, you know, this six foot blizzard proved that we need dome stadiums. The dome would have collapsed, fam. The dome would have collapsed, fam.

The dome would have killed everybody in the stadium because there'd been so much snow on it. You saw what happened in Minnesota. People would have, it would have been like an avalanche down there. Josh Allen tall enough to survive. Not just that. Yeah, right. Spencer Brown, like Survivors. Two survivors.

You know what I mean? Just like everybody else buried in the avalanche. He's just like, guys, get help. It's just his neck. First guy to go is the head coach. That would have been, yeah. But you don't think McDermott's real tall? He just strikes me as a not tall guy.

Poor Zach Moss. Well, he just escaped it. Luckily, he's an indie where they could open and close the roof. So, yeah, the snow, it was more about the staff. It was about, obviously, you can't play in six feet of snow, but it was about the staff couldn't get there. It was about the fans couldn't get there. Like, it was unsafe, okay?

You read it to the Bills fans, man, for getting to Detroit, for making the trip. And Reed was doing some research earlier. We're like, are they going around the lakes? What are they doing? How are they doing that? Reed said it's four-hour drive. They go right through Canada.

Yep. Incredible, like up and around. Four hour drive. They go up and around the lake. I thought the earth ended at... Yeah. Yeah, like the end of the Game of Thrones map. It's just like...

Yeah, no, it keeps going. They just had to get a puddle jumper over the night or falls. It's Canada over there. It is. Well, Toronto's pretty close. It's right there. Yeah, so it's right there. I could tell, like, in the beginning of the game, Josh was tentative.

Like, Josh did not want to do what he had been doing the last couple weeks. And I think that was the holdup and them getting going. I mean, Gabe Davis dropped the big ball. He recovered. had a great game. That might have gotten them jump started, but 12 yards to the first bunch of possessions and then 100 plus in the last two possessions of the first half. But let me tell you why they were lucky. Seven nothing out of the gate. Cleveland goes down there and gets points. You go three and out. So the worst possible thing that could happen, seven nothing, three and out.

And then in a possession or so, Cleveland gets the ball back up 10 to three. And I always talk about this. Like when teams have an opportunity to jump a team that you're not as good as, You have to take advantage of it and Cleveland did not. They were up 10 to 3. They dropped two balls in the end zone. One of them, your buddy, Pharaoh. Pharaoh Brown. Yeah, Farrow Brown dropped a ball in the end zone, but two guys dropped the ball. So he shares that and then Jacoby fumbles a snap at midfield. All this up 10.3. So the bills almost went down 17.3. Not to say they couldn't come back from that. They've come back against better teams than that, but they were in a different place coming back against the Ravens than they were this Sunday. It was just it was tough. sledding, but eventually it got going. And, you know, I think what bothers Josh as well is, like, the rush, he's

kind of impervious to it because he's bigger than everybody, right? He's more athletic, he's bigger. But you say what you want about Jadavia and Clowny. We know who Miles Garrett is. These two guys are big, tall, athletic, violent motherfuckers. Predators. They just and so Josh,

he sees two equals rushing the edge, like athletically. And there's no door that's wider than the other. Exactly. And the way Miles Garrett sacked him, you don't see Josh get slung down like that a lot. I mean, but, you know, it was like Godzilla and King Kong. You know, it's just it was in it was in, you're like, this is the matchup. I've been waiting for. Josh Allen's usually Danny Almonte in the situation. There was another day. There was another kid that was born in, you know, 1997. I am 12. Yeah. I'm also 12, Josh. No first down for 22 minutes for these guys. No digs targets. It was a real chin check for these guys. This was pissed. He is because he's a competitor. He wants the rock.

He wants a rock. But the defense stepped up when it went ahead to. Milano was great. That guy just, somebody asked me yesterday, is he the closest thing we've seen to Luke Keekely? And yeah, pretty close. Now, Warner is just as good, right?

People don't watch Warner as much. I'm not putting him in the Luke Keeckley class, but I haven't seen anybody look this instinctive. I don't want to leave the guys out in Tampa because they're amazing sideline to sideline. But the way, like to play Milano made in the red zone, it's just, he's so special. A guy who's climbing that list, Nick Bolton.

Bolton's pretty fucking good too. And we talked about this. I was so impressed with Nick Bolton last year. And then in the AFC championship game, when I came up to see y'all play Buffalo, he just made so many impact plays. And watching him in person, the range he covers is amazing.

Even yesterday he stripped a ball and then he got the pick at the end of the game. That's a hustle play. So you see like a technical success with the strip and then you see a hustle play. Like these are keakly type plays. Oh, we haven't even talked about your guy who ended up in Baltimore. Roquan. So, you know, like there's a lot of really fun off the ball linebackers right now in the NFL. And I know their trade value might not be that high, but they are fun to watch.

When there's a really good instinctive linebacker that's playing Oklahoma drill out there. I asked you about Matt Milano earlier in the season and Chris said, When Whalen is ready to study football, I will only have him watch Matt Milano. That's the truth. That's what he said to me. I don't think any of us longs are going to be good enough to be Matt Milano, but... If you want to learn from the best... If you want to become a linebacker or something, like fucking throw his tape on.

Little white gloves out there just... Just moving. Blake Martinez was kind of like that. He was like light. Yeah. Didn't he retire last week? Yeah, he did. He retired a couple weeks ago.

And shout out to Blake Martinez, who broke my fucking neck in 2017. And I love you. Shout out to the guy for the Texans who broke my neck. I don't even know his name. I didn't catch license plate on this guy. This is one of my last games, Puller for the Texans. I think Blake was like,

are you okay? After the play, I was like, no. Couldn't turn my neck for a whole year. All right. So, yeah, what was the Pokemon thing with Blake Martinez?

He's a big collector of Pokemon. He sold a card for 650K. And he was like, ah, I don't know. Timing was coincidental. He is a real deal, Blue Blood gamer and fantasy.

see, you know, card games and all that stuff. Why don't we get Blake Martinez on the pod? We'll have them on tomorrow. The card was purchased by Dr. Fax. Yeah, okay. Dr. Fax definitely had something to say. Chris, we can have Blake Martinez on next week. Let's get them on because I want to talk about retirement.

I want to talk about Pokemon. I want to talk about magic, the gathering. Really bright. Lions Giants. A little too early in the season to be doing victory cigars with the fans, Brian Dave. Okay. You couldn't wait.

You couldn't wait. I was cheering for him yesterday. I picked the Giants. But you know what? The truth bomb hurts, man. We're not all Mike Dicka. We can't just smoke cigars out in front of the fans. You know what I mean?

There he is right here. In the warmer months still, you know. Hey, good job. Forcing a cigar in the 4-0. Stoke the Stogey signs from baby's heads. But look at you now, Dan Campbell. We love Dan Campbell. These are two of my favorite coaches.

Big Day. Mr. November, Dan Campbell, right? Can you imagine if he wins on Thanksgiving and runs the table in November? Oh my God. Oh, my goodness. I mean, listen, some people were ready to bury the cat. He's a good football coach. Give this team time.

You just get James and Williams back at practice day too, which is a major fun story, right? I mean, like, that kid was, he was awesome in college, and they drafted him anyways, towards ACL, drafted him in anyways. Achilles or ACL was ACL? ACL. Yeah. Those were always the best playing. When they know something's wrong with them, they're like, we still want them.

Yeah, right. Robert Quinn had a brain tumor, no problem. Let's go. Trey Smith, heart condition, fuck it. Fuck it. Ojoabo, torn Achilles. Yeah. He's back.

Yep. So, I mean, like, they're fun. The lions are easy to root for. And this was the game for a while. Like, I've read articles about like luck index and teams that have been lucky and schedule and close games. Like the Giants are to be respected. And earlier in the season, I called them like the new Tennessee Titans because they are tough.

They can run the football, not when, you know, not when, you know, you can load the box and ignore all the weapons on the outside, which Detroit did. They just manned up and they were like, all right, let's see. Like, let's see. Let's see if these guys can beat us. And like, that's the team that fired Aubrey Pleasant like a month ago, right? They fired their DB's coach. And now they're just saying, fuck it. we'll man you up.

And that's how bad it is in New York. And New York lost another receiver in Wondell Robinson. They lost corners yesterday. They lost O'Lyman. This, the Giants are ahead of schedule. The question is going to be, and this is the hard part, if you're Brian Davel or you're, you know, a Giants fan or you're a player on that team,

like, do you want to hear that Daniel Jones has not had weapons? You know what I mean? Like, because, That's kind of true this year. I mean, like, you could, you could say, let's go into the offseason and, and take care of Danny Dimes. He got us this far with nobody to throw to.

But do you feel like, do you feel like he's not the guy? I would, I would feel very uncomfortable building a roster around him to, like, try to give him weapons because there's a high chance that that fails. And I'm not saying he's a bad player. He's not. is the thing. Like, you got to have a special

guy there to win the whole thing unless you're really, really transcendent. Good doesn't cut it in this league. So, like, yeah, I just want to know if you're a Giants fan, this is an open-ended question. I don't have a take here. Are you going to the off-season and say, well, we didn't have enough weapons outside. You know, that could change

because it's true. You haven't. But, I mean, there's a... I don't know. I would say he's shown you enough this season, especially with Brian Dable, that you have enough confidence. Because he, what we were talking about earlier with the Jets, he's shown that he can not make as many his mistakes as he's made in the past.

He can hold on in the football a little bit better. And he can play complimentary football when Sequan's playing as well as he had. So if you want to put all your eggs in your Sequeon basket as you have and as you should, then it seems like Daniel Jones would be the best compliment unless there's a you know, you could get, you know, unless there's a Taylor Heineckee, a really gamer, or maybe you trade for Gardner, Minchew, because he's still in Philly. It's all, it's all one half.

Yeah, another Aaron Rogers possible, you know, like, there's a couple of teams up the Eastern Seaboard that I'm not saying, of all the, hey, Mac Jones, Daniel Jones, Aldem Jones is. Davey Jones. I like Daniel the best. Okay, like I really, I do like Daniel Jones, but there's nobody out. There's nobody outside. You just have to win in such a unique, scrappy way.

Golf hit three times, zero sacks. And, you know, it's just, I don't know, you got a lot. For a team that's pretty good and has a pretty good record, they have a lot of things that they can improve on. And I guess that's a positive if you're a Giants fan. Like, you're like, all right, we're seven and three or whatever we are, and we probably don't deserve to be seven and three, but that's our record. And we still have a part of them to do that.

And we still have a parcellism that like your record, you are what your record is. But like there are some holes that we're going to fill pretty easily in the off season. And, and hey, it's going to be all on these guys and this new, new talent, new talent department in New York.

Right? To go out and get the talent because you got a hell of a coach. You're ahead of schedule. And Aidan Hutchinson with a pick, man, that was a beautiful play. It's a beautiful play. He's a beast.

He's a beast. He's a beast. He's at five and a half this year. He had that big multi-sac game. I still don't think he's going to be a perennial double-digit guy, but I think he's going to be a guy that can really help your defense. And he's a complete defender, right? He's a complete defensive player. Which sometimes is better almost than a guy who's going to get 10 sacks and get rolled off the ball in the run game. Only player in the NFL this season with three plus sacks and three plus picks. Three sacks, three picks. Takeaways, sorry. Three takeaways.

Two picks. He had the one on Rogers. That's right. He recovered a fumble, I'm pretty sure. But bottom line is, that's one thing. Like, it's nice to have Aiden Hutchison playing well so that you're like, oh, I don't have to feel that heat going to the office. There's one less thing that I'm worried about.

Exactly. Like, people aren't going to be talking about what's up with Aiden Hutchinson. Because Aidan Hutchinson has played solid football. Yep. Solid football, man. Okay. Sincy Pitt, after this game, Kyle, I, you know, you. Yeah, I watched a little bit of this because I had Pittsburgh catching four.

It was fun to watch those two quarterbacks compete. Kenny Pickett throwing some tuds. Joe Burrow competing, getting a little salty on the sideline fired up. Was this the game that Kenny showed you a little bit, showed you can play in this league and that, you know, he's ready to full take the reins from Mitch? I think the reins are his. I think the question is like what, what does the future look like for them?

I think Kenny Pickett's got a lot to like. I mean, like, and when you got Pickens, they're a year now under their belt almost of having a rapport. And really it hadn't even been that. It's been, you know, training camp and then a couple games here. You're looking at the infant stages of a relationship between a receiver and a quarterback. Which looks like it's going to be fruitful. I know that Pickens dropped a ball late in that game, you know, like down two touchdowns. That was tough.

They scored anyway on that drive. but they had a little bit more time, you know, to do something cheeky. Yeah, they, they, uh, nice soccer word, Reed, go USA. And they, they just, I think the bigger lead here is Cincinnati's defense. They're sloppy right now. They make a lot of mistakes, especially in that first half. They did a good job coming out of half and holding Pittsburgh down third quarter. But, you know, that team, that team last year, their defense was more opportunistic than good.

Like they were good and solid, but like, Big plays. They made some big plays. And this year, it's not like they've been a lot worse, but it just gets magnified for some reason. And I think it's, you know, they're missing Ouzier, is it, who's out?

Some breakdowns in the secondary. They just have to be better down the stretch there. If they want to get back to being considered a contender, because over the last five games, you know, they've had 30 points four times. You're averaging, you know, three points per drive. You get 16.

You have 1 16 pass a rating for Joe Burrow. 16 touchdowns, three interceptions. Like he's rolling right now. And they haven't had your more chase. Right, exactly. But they've, you know, obviously a lot was made about Mixon's huge game and it's not going to be like that all the time. Two weeks ago it was a massive.

They didn't have them. Five touchdowns, whatever. Yeah. That's not going to happen every game. And they didn't have them yesterday for a lot of it. And P. Ryan stepped up and had like a big game, bro. like Piron was killing me. Say his full name.

P.R. Samaji. Samaji P. What is it, Samaji? That's the coolest name. It's fucking cool, dude. Samajipirai. Yeah, that's good.

You like that. By God. You wish your name was Samaji Piron? I kind of do. Like Samari Roll. Today I do because the motherfucker balled out yesterday. He scored fantasy managers many points, many, many points. But I think Burrow can never be counted out, right?

He's got the respect of his teammates, Boyd after the game is talking about. We got Joe Burrow, man. And Burrow love playing in that game. Cold weather, division games. People counting them out, like myself included. Like, I don't see it. Hoodie Carmelow, Beanie Burrow.

Beanie Burrow. Nice. He took a lot of hits yesterday. IJ. IJ.J.S. He took a lot of hits, but they didn't get to him as many times as week one. Only seven sacks week one, only twice last week. And the big turning point was the Steelers starting to drive at midfield,

early in the fourth quarter, trailing by four. They ended up punning because of a penalty. Cincinnati takes over with their own seven and needed just eight plays to the full field. Yeah, and you watch TJ Watt after this game, and he just looks dejected. I mean, he couldn't get home, but he had a great play in the past game. He was back there a lot. He just couldn't get home. And they're three and seven.

This team has never had a losing record. It's going to happen this year, right? It feels like Tomlin's never, Tomlin's ever had a losing record, right? They've never had a losing record. T.J. Watt, his greatness. And, you know, I truly believe he's as good as his brother. Like, you know, I don't do the whole comparison thing, but, you know, if his brother's a benchmark, this guy has, you know, in some ways exceeded it.

And he's been magnificent to watch. He's one of my favorite players in the league to watch. And it just, it's unthinkable. that they're gonna waste this guy's career. The dark side of football. You know what I'm saying? I mean like, listen, they had a couple runs with Ben late in his career, but he never,

it's such a shame this guy wasn't there for those big Super Bowl runs. And maybe on the other side of this, they're gonna have that late in his career as a vet, as an OG, but I just watching him after the game, I felt so dejected for him. And then on the other side of it, Burrow was, said this is one of his favorite games that he's played in.

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I got to stay home. He turned my hips. And it's Devante Adams, one of the best root runners in the league. but yeah we shouldn't have let that last tying field goal drive go Russell Wilson just take the sack you don't need to burn the ball just take the sack let the clock run

they didn't have any timeouts it would have gone down to like a minute and they would have needed to go the full field so yeah 18 points is our that's the story of the game you know freaking Peyton Manning when he had half an arm he could score 18 points I know man so I'm

asking you as the new owner of the Denver Broncos, Reid. That boy, Reed Walden. Reed Walden. Are you firing Hackett this week? That's interesting. This week, I don't know. I keep seeing these tweets that are like,

if the Broncos win one more game, they're one game out of the playoffs, and that's because, you know, the playoff race is just so tight right now. I don't know how much, how many other veteran coaches you have in that coaching stable to pick up the reins and be that leader. I don't even know what Hackett does anymore because you have like a situational head coach who helps him out. They hired him in like week two and now Clint's calling plays.

But after this season, I think this might, if things don't turn around, this might be his time to go. And I don't know how our defensive coordinator, if he's ready. He said in the past, like I'm ready to jump up and take over head coach. coaching duties. You know, if there's a really good special teams coordinator out there who's coached before and led a team to the playoffs. I bet Sean Payton's probably like, fuck this shit. There's no way I'm dealing with this Russell Wilson stuff. No, he's not doing that. But no way, you know, if maybe Versace is like, okay, I can do a head coaching gig and in Klingkubiak's like offensive coordinator. Let's party. Reed, you're too nice to be a billionaire. You know

you're doing this situation, you fire Nathaniel Hackett. And people are so like, it is a production business, man. It is a production business. And at the end of this game, one of the most surreal things in the world was at the end of the game, the Josh McDaniel's Hackett handshake, it's like Josh is watching from a life raft. He's like, oh, my owner's broke. Yeah. Like, I'm safe.

Sorry about the fact that your guy owns Walmart. You know, like, that should be, that should be, that should be. There's no salary cap. It's not, you know, like, hey, do you have the money to eat his guarantees? It's that easy. And he's not getting the job done. And you're lording over a franchise that a bunch of guys are, you know, blood, sweat and tears for a bunch of fans. They're living it.

You know, the whole thing. If it's not working, it's not working. It's nothing personal against Nathaniel Hackett. I think he's probably a great guy and probably a great coach. He didn't get this by not being a great coach, but being a coach and a head coach are two totally different things. different things prime example i got drafted by mark trussman yeah who's a brilliant offensive mind somebody who was under bill walsh and and the raiders took the raiders to the super bowl as a coordinator i believe uh when they lost to the bucks yeah getting in front of a room and leading men

offensive defensive and special teams is a whole different ball game um and i'm sure these guys who have tried out from coordinator positions to head coaching positions would be the first to fucking tell you like, God damn, I wish I was the OC again, you know? Metrosexual coaches, Adam Gates. Sub 500 generally, Mark Trussman. Would you consider a metrosexual? No, not at all. I just think he's, no, I just think.

He wasn't fashionable? No, he was like, you know, pretty basic in that regard. But he had those glasses. He had glasses. He couldn't see well. It doesn't mean he's metrosexual. Everybody with glasses is metro. But God, he was smart.

And every time he would put an install in, we'd say, God, we're going to score 38, 40 points this week. Yeah. But then one. What does metrosexual even mean anymore? Google it. I'm telling you what it says. I haven't heard the word used a while.

I think people are afraid to use the word, but there's nothing wrong with the word. Right. Metrosexual means a young, urban, heterosexual male with liberal political views and an interest in fashion and a refined sense of taste. So you don't think that's, you're a metrosexual. Not really. I'm not young. and I'm not urban.

I'm not young and I'm not urban. You're urban. I'm not young and I'm not urban. We don't live in the county. He doesn't qualify. It's too old. I do live in the county. I'm trying to make this work.

Yeah. Yeah, I'm too old. Back me the fuck up. You know, interesting. I don't have an interest in fashion. You have a refined sense of taste.

You do have an interest in fashion. Do I? Absolutely. Like what? You have the floor. The thing that Meg bought you in Vegas that you were talking about yesterday. That damn was it Levi's. I know that.

It's interesting when my wife brings me of James purse full toddler suit of a corduroy to... You know I love wearing the same shit every day. Interested fashion. I'm going to wear that corduroy suit out. Metrosexual. Here's...

Nate is urban. I guess I am metrosexual. Kyle, look at this guy. Jacked. That's our guy from the Greenlight movie. Sporno sexual is the new metrosexual. I don't know what that means. And we don't have enough time to read all that. Maybe tomorrow.

But yeah, metrosexual. Write us. Tell us, is it cool to be metrosexual in 2022? I think metrosexuals became hipsters. Is that true, you think? I don't know. I haven't heard the term. Everybody's so afraid to talk about metrosexual.

I think there's a strong case that Mark Trussman was a little metrosexual. I don't mean that as a fucking negative. Yeah, let us know. What's going on with that? Metro. Is it still cool to be Metro? That was such an early 2000s word. All right.

You know who was good in the early 2000s? The Rams. Greatest show on... I just steered us out of that. Let's do one word. Fuck yeah. Olave. Oh, no, my word is careful.

Matt Ryan needs... Matt Stafford, Roxanne. Matt Stafford needs to be careful. It's two concussions in two weeks. I don't know if he's in protocol. or what, but like he came out of the ball game and with another concussion, or at least, you know, they were, they were being careful. He's too old. He's accomplished too much, man. Like, honestly, I mean, I'm not even fucking around here. Like, I like Matt Stafford. I like

anybody who suits up on Sunday. Like, take care of yourself. Really nice guy too. This team is, is bad. The team is a dumpster fire right now. You got no Cooper Cup. I told you. I bet the Saints. so big, man. I mean, it was Friday night. It just hit me. I was like, oh, the Saints are going to win this ballgame. How did the, how do the Rams score? And it was true. It was one play action shot. Otherwise, it's 2710. You're talking about the left sideline. I forget where it was. It was left sideline. So, you know, like the Rams are really bad. You're Matt Stafford. You got nobody to throw to. You're out of it. I don't even know if you want to keep playing after this

year. So what do you like be fucking careful. I know you don't listen to this podcast, but if you know Matt Stafford. Historically, he has a tough SOB. Yeah, you don't have to, you got nothing to prove to anybody. And that's the thing is like the power of being like peer pressure and being a football player is so strong that I bet you Matt Stafford sitting there like, I want to play for my guys. Like, because that's who he is. But this is your head, man. And this team ain't worth it. I have a thought for the Saints. What? Because they seem to be even more dangerous. Yeah. with two quarterbacks back in the lineup, you know, seeing a heavy dose of Taysom

and Andy Dalton. What if they implement a third, three quarterback system? Just throw some more quarterbacks. I think that was last year where they had, well, they flirted with, it might have been three quarterbacks on the field, but James had the, he lined up wide receiver, and he took that pitch and chucked it downfield.

Yeah, what I'm saying, man. Yeah. That'd be fun. Yeah, I think you're on to something. Derek Henner's throwing touchdowns. Let James out the bag, baby. Dude, I just, the Saints are not out of it, and that's the wildest thing. The Saints are going to play the, they arrested a lot of guys yesterday.

Okay, like that's why a lot of people were like, you like the Saints? Have you seen the injury report? Yeah, I've seen the injury report. It's fucking a mile long, dude. And it speaks to how confident they are that they can rest some of these guys and pick up this win. And you're not out of it, which is wild to say. So shout out to Cam Jordan.

Ultimate Iron Man. Yeah. Played 176 straight games. The only game he missed during that period was COVID. He missed a game because of COVID. Imagine how pissed you would be if your streak ended because of COVID. Oh my God. And then I had him out yesterday.

So, I mean, it's the little stuff that gets. And we like COVID's little. It's not like an ACL or pulled hands. It is always a little stuff. Yeah. I like to see in your inner turmoil yesterday, having bet the Saints. and then Bryce Perkins back up QB for the Rams from UVA finally.

One of my heroes that took home the Commonwealth Cup for us. Like legitimately one of the most important people in my adult life, Bryce Perkins. They gave me one of the best days of my adult life. And then the audacity of me hoping that he drives him down the field and somebody fumbles yesterday because I'm on the Saints. I mean, it's just fucking sports, man. Next game.

Ravens Panthers. Hangover. Baltimore hungover out of the buy and no run game. I mean, that's the problem. Like we were talking about this yesterday was Scott, like, you know, Edwards, those guys that, if they're not healthy, this offense doesn't work. So Mark, last chance.

Baker Mayfield. Oh, dude, last chance, bro. This was like, last chance, you. This is, this is like beyond the last. He's getting played out by, or outplayed by PJ Walker, I think he is, you know, backup quarterback worthy. Yeah, I, I think it's too bad, but, you know, he can plant his flag on that.

And you know what? No, hey, you know what? I like Baker. I'm not going to be the guy. I'm just trying to be funny. Yeah, well, you know, you want to be funny. How about him slamming his head into all those guys? I was about to say, you want to be funny headbutt your fucking teammates with helmets on.

Which means he's trying to embrace his role, which I respect. You know what I mean? to, you know. He's accountable at least on like some other quarterbacks. Yeah, well, fuck. So yeah, I just thought Baltimore was sluggish coming out of the buy. And defense stepped up in the fourth quarter, three turnovers. But God bless you if you watch that game too much.

All right. How about Houston, Washington? Mystery. What happened there? Like, that game could have been played in a hangar. Exactly. Honestly, you could tell me that game. You can tell me anything happened in that game.

Early pick six for our buddy Kendall Fuller. Oh, yeah. Kendall Fuller. Yeah. Friend of the Commonwealth. Yeah. And our other guy, Davis Mills, not a great showing. But.

It's not going to be our guy very long, I don't think. Run of the mill. Oh, Kyle. Nice. Run of the mills. Thank you. Plural for, oh, God. Heineke.

I mean, his O'Iman continue to get Jordans, you know. Yeah, oh, yeah. Heineke. He, who do they have left? Is that the coolest tradition we have in the NFL right now between quarterbacks. After Kirk's chain on the plane

is now knocked off. Fugazi. A chain Fugazi. Big Fugazi. That's what the guy, that's, Micah came and snatched his chain. The Vikings guy got so mad at

Taylor Heineke for having a chain. He should have been focused on the damn, the damn cowboys. He's out there tweeting about, hey, you can't wear a chain. That's our thing. Remaining Washington as Falcons, the Giants back to back.

Win, win. 49ers, Browns Cowboys. Loss, loss, loss. Oh, those brown colorway Jordans are going to be hideous. Or they're going to be sick. Taylor Heineke really is the goat if he can, if he can make those look good. We'll see. We'll give a shout out.

Jonathan Allen. He had seven quarterback pressures and two sacks on 32 pass rush. He's a fucking 22%. And he had a big game, big play against the Eagles. He was the one or third down. Bro, he threw Land and Diggerson. He's got that face match. of the club the other day.

It was incredible. Last game, Falcons, Bears. Assault! Why does Justin Fields not get the calls, man? Why does he not get the calls? Because he's big. Could be another thing. Could be.

It's fucking unfortunate, man, because we're also happy to see Justin Fields and the bears have the ability to do explosive things offensively. But then you get, I'm kind of frustrated at the end of the game, the play calling. He's clearly banged up. We're watching it here. And here's the play.

He escapes the pocket outside the B gap, slides down, gets hit from behind. It's late. He's declaring himself down. He gets hit. It's in the head. It's like right on time. It's like.

It's a combination of shitty things happening. We should see a litany of flags on the field and a 15-yard gain here after the run. But to your point, they're just not calling it on Justin Fields. I hate to see this. And I hope that this young guy doesn't just continue to get bludgeoned. And we saw him on the cart after the game going to the visiting X-ray room in the stadium. Chris, I've been on a few of those x-ray tables in away games. It's no fun.

Have you ever been a part of that? Yeah, I broke my leg in Green Bay. That was Green Bay. Yeah. The fans are very close to you at Lambo. I had to ride the stupid cart, like board a bunch of elevators. Yeah, it's lonely, man. Your team's down there.

You can hear the game. And the pick at the end of the game, Chris. Justin Fields does a pick. He gets it over the A-gap. He does a quick flip. and David Montgomery fingertips, you know, it's a 50-50 ball. You got to catch it.

It's high. It should have been caught. It should have been caught. It was an errant pass. I heard he didn't play that well. I didn't see the whole game, Justin Fields. I think this is the week he came back down to earth a little bit.

I mean, that's okay. He's still recorded a one, at least one passing touchdown, one rushing touchdown for his fifth straight game. With each one of those tying Kyler, Murray, for the longest streak streak since 1950. They keep losing the same way. can't play defense. They don't have

a lot of they're not multiple offensively. They don't have enough guys. Shout out to Cole Commet, fabulous catch over the middle. One-handed grab comes down with it in traffic. He's a freak. We've talked about Kemet before on this pod, but I really like him as a

physical presence on that offense. He blocks. He can catch down the field. So there's good things. Mooney with another big catch. And it's tough with the bears. They don't have Herbert. He's on IR. He gives them another dimension offensively in Montgomery. As good as he is, you can see how much better the Bears'

offense is with the two running back attack. I wonder what the injury is going to be. If it's something where it's borderline, you just protect this kid. AC or clavicle and it's non-throwing arm, I think. Just protect the kid. You know, like the future is where you're going to win in Chicago. They're three and eight. It's their fourth consecutive loss.

You know, if it's a, if it's a multiple week injury, it might be, you know, shut them down for the rest of the season. We'll give a shout out before we get to our Miller Light mentions. Cordero Patterson, ninth career kickoff, touchdown return, breaks a tie with Leon Washington and Josh Cribs. Career leader. Incredible.

Congrats to Cordero Patterson, old teammate of mine. Tough as shit. Big old country boy loves to run the fucking shit out of the ball. Yeah. And he's even more dangerous when you kick it to him. All right. Miller Light mentions, let's hear him. Uh, okay, Miller Light mentions best plane ride.

The Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, it's got to be the Dallas Cowboys. Does it though? It's got to be. They took the chains that, you know, Minnesota was going to give to Kirk on the plane. Yeah, they doubled up on chains. They quadruple quadrupled them points was. God, I can't give it to the Titans because they had a little too good a fucking plane ride, huh?

And you know what? They weren't, you know, they played in Minnesota, so it wasn't cold. you know, you didn't feel like shit nobody was sick on the plane this time of the year people get the sniffles on the plane. I don't want to sit next to you. No, right, exactly, exactly. You know, I don't know who had a good plane ride.

The Raiders might have had a good plane ride. It's just the relief. It's the relief of, I would say Kansas City, but it was late, you know? It's their 14th straight road win in division. They do this.

yeah oh Cincinnati had the best plane ride that was a good one it's short good one you know it's really short Pittsburgh to Cincinnati how far is that by plane

so yeah Pittsburgh to Cincinnati I imagine pretty turbulent though there's a lot of winds down there by those fucking lakes it is 147 dollars see that's not true either

because you got it's Three-hour flight? It's not, dude. They're doing the connections. It's stupid, really. It's 59 minutes. 59 minutes. Same as my flight from Charlottesville to New York.

You can't even, yeah, you can't even, they don't even get the internet for that long. 10,000 feet comes and goes. Yeah, dude. Guys are up there scrolling their timelines and then next thing you know you're down. That's like my question about flying from Denver to Vegas. The plane just leaves the runway and goes down the whole time. Denver to Vegas? Yeah, because of the altitude.

That's really good thinking, Kyle. Fuel efficient flight. That's funny. If only that we were true. Okay. Worst flight. My worst flight will be the Jets. You essentially have a child-minded quarterback.

No sense of reading the room. Particularly the most important room. The locker room. Be better. He probably has no manners. He's probably just like peanuts. You want some of a drink? Yes.

What the fuck do you mean? What he means like? A drink. A drink. And then he, and then he bangs the point. They bring you the wrong ice cubes. He bitches about his ice cubes. He's just like, he's just, I can't make, I don't think we can go any further with that joke.

Yeah, yeah. He opened himself up for it. What do we got back? No, but it's about the flight attendant. So I don't want to, who says, who says, you know what I mean? Gotcha. Worst flight, my worst flight. Oh, the Rams.

The Rams has a terrible flight. All their flights are bad from here on out. Oh, my God. The Rams flight is so far south. The only, yo, so far. The only thing good about losing in New Orleans is you get those fucking oysters. You get those Drago's oysters.

You're absolutely right. Fried oysters. Get them on the bus. It's about the only thing that could make me smile after losing down there. But then you've got to get on the flight. They go to the Chiefs. The Rams go to the Chiefs.

They go to the Packers. they go to the Chargers they don't have to go anywhere and they go to the Seahawks. They have a couple long flights remaining this year. STL Memorial Sure.

The Bills Mafia for making sure their team can get to the airport safely. Also the fans who drove seemingly around the United States to Detroit. That's good. And took over that state. That's good.

Okay, I want to give this to a guy on Twitter name. Kyle Ruiz 4H. He sent you know what? At stadiums, they say send something in and they put it on the Jumbotron. And this was at U.S. Bank Stadium in Minnesota. Just Joel.

Yeah. At the Vikings. This is my cousin, Joel, who served in the Army. He has always been an inspiration and someone I look up to for his heroism. He is also a huge Vikes fan. He's all horned up. Of course, the square-jawed military man. in the picture is Johnny Sins, adult film actor.

It's one of the best long time running jokes. Because like, you can't be afraid to fire. Because if you fire and somebody says, hey, I know who that is. You do. Tell me more about them. Tell me more about them. Do you know him as the nurse, the cop, the soldier, or the fireman? You guys a five tool player.

Or the step, bro. RPG! Never mind, it's just a penis. Stand down. Stand down. So, yeah. Brack out. So,

Frank out. We need somebody to breach the door. We'll just have, we'll just have Joel. Oh, he'd be breached. His massive cough through the door. But really with him,

it's more about the motion in the ocean, isn't it? Oh, man. Can't teach that. The guy's the tactical wizard. So, uh, anyways.

Matt, what we got? Yeah, because I don't know that that many people picked up. on that in real time? I think there's a lot of horny people in Minneapolis. I think of all the state... It's cold.

They just go to bars and play darts. Yeah, and they... And drink Miller lights. And they... Responsibly. Enhance. That's what they do most of the winter. A lot of computer porn watchers, not a lot of phone porn watchers.

That's it. That's it. All right. You guys got to fly on the wall? Yeah, fly on the wall. I'd love to be a fly on the wall in the first medical meeting that Justin Fields and his trainers have today in Chicago. Yeah. What was the injury?

How bad is it? He was in a lot of pain on the cart. Clearly he was grabbing that shoulder. And then I want to hear the conversation that he has with the staff and I want to hear their explanation for why they were running the fuck out of him at the end of the game. Yeah, I got to fly on the wall couts, OBJ watching the two teams

that he said that he was going to think about joining the Cowboys and the Giants. And I thought he was New York bound, but like one team beat the fucking 8 and 1 Vikings, 43, one loss to the Lions in a blowout. So if I'm Odell, and he said they're going crazy out there.

Yeah, that's what he tweeted after the game. And everybody was in his mentions. Was it Micah Parsons and a couple other guys were said, yep, all right, jump on the train. He's going to Dallas now, dude. Definitely going to Dallas. Perfect fit. Jesus.

Or Buffalo. Buffalo could use him. Dallas just screaming his name. Yeah. How about viewing party? Viewing party. The Marcus Jones punt return, I would have loved to have been there as a Pats fan

after this four quarters of shitty football and then watching it's like finally the climax is here. Honestly, sometimes in the NFL, things get so bad for a few moments that your screen if you were playing a video game and the video game was life, it shakes. You know, you're on the road, you lose

the game in five seconds. You work the whole game, three to three. Just like the biggest game of the year. You know those losses that hurt so much. It feels like it's jarring. And I was honestly going to say viewing party being a jet. And seeing like what that was like just the silence the locker room the whole thing man.

It was terrible double doink levels of silence. Yeah. Can I give a can I give a yeah maybe maybe worse honestly that had to. So I want to give a a late viewing party for for Jesse and Heisenberg going to go into a Rams game. They were Rams Cardinals, like two backups. Yeah, what, that's so funny to me. Like, how did that go down? Did Brian Cranston hit up Aaron Paul?

No, I know, but like, I know they're friends. They're friends. They do a lot together. What kind of a friend takes you to a Rams game right now? Like, what kind of friends like, Jesse? We're going to go watch. We're going to go watch John Skelton and fucking, no, we're going to, no, honestly, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was, it was Colt McCoy.

and it was the wolf of Wall Street Wofford Wolford. And I doubt that Aaron Paul is like a huge football fan or Brian Cranston for that matter. Yeah. But like they pick that game. It just goes to show that they're not. Did they not want to lose the money on the tickets? I wonder if someone who like owns the box or whatever

was like, hey, you want to come to the game? Ask Brian Cranston. And then Cranston was like, uh, let me, maybe. And then texted Aaron Paul and aside like, yo, I know he asked you too. you going. I'm only going if you're going. I think I was like, all right, cool, you're going to be there. I think they were coerced into going to that game, Reid. I don't think that's a game. Do you think they cook meth in real life? No, Kyle.

No. You know Brian Cranston was on Seinfeld, right? And one of his most famous episodes was when he went to the Super Bowl or was supposed to. Really? I should have made that in America's team today. All the good people and some bad who like Seinfeld that are trying to convince me. It's good. Keep sending me videos. It's actually, you know what? It's not our standard form of

comedy that's good my favorite are the the guys that are like well i got this one guy who's like well most people with highly functioning brains like seinfeld and i'm like well that's why you're just not a funny person doesn't that suck to not be funny i'd be so fucking smart and not managed to be funny how's that working out for you it's just you're not a thinking man okay you metrosexuals how about a hollow man a hollow man sure The FIFA president. Today I am gay. Today I feel migrant worker.

Today I feel handicapped. I miss this. Oh, you haven't seen it? No. Can you pull this? Today, I get that guy off my screen and punt him into the atmosphere, like out of the solar system. I've never heard a more tone-deaf diatribe, this fucking guy.

Presumably pretty old, this guy, the president of FIFA. He's been around a while. Looks like Elmer Fudd. He's been around. That too. Gianni Infantino. Kind of looks like RuPaul to me right now because he feels like RuPaul. He feels like, look at this guy.

Gianni Infantino loosely translates to giant baby. Listen to, there you go, PFT. Listen to this shit. And do you know the background, Kyle? Can I explain it to you? Do you know what's wrong with Qatar? various human rights violations

terrible treatment of winning they don't treat women right they fucking slavery they built these stadiums with slave labor they told Harry Kane he couldn't wear his like all one love barn can't take

can't take pictures can't drink beer all those nations kind of copped out there was like six countries that were going to wear the one love band and then they said that they would give them a yellow card if they did and so they all backed down which so pull this joker up real quick And they also stopped selling beer like the day before the tournament.

Today I feel Katari. Today I feel Arab. Today I feel African. Today I feel gay. Today I feel disabled. Today I feel a migrant worker. He's ethno-fluid. and amongst other things.

To acknowledge that being a European, there's a lot of baggage there, like when you look at the history of the world, and then to throw it back and be like, I'm all these things. It's amazing that Europeans could criticize us. It was just terrible. It was the worst thing ever.

And Alex Scott is the English reporter who's wearing the one love, LGBT arm banding in Qatar. Not out to Alex. Anyways, Hollow Man, that guy. Also,

Miko Hardman, who fakes? That is the story of the fucking week for me. Is the Miko Hardman full-screen YouTube, crack screen, plasma.

He took the first YouTube thing and fake the phone. And Twitter sleuths are like... What's the point of that? Is he like going viral? Do he hire a, like a media team? Somebody,

it's a clout. Does he like chasing cloud? He's pretty fast. He'd probably, catch it. You didn't try so hard. You know? I saw it this morning for the first time and I did some research me and we were looking at

and I was like, I cannot believe that this happened. Did you see that coming? You love me, Cole Harder. I could see it coming. He's a Twitch streamer. He's looking to get,

you know, some interactions. I can see. Okay. Good for him. He's not playing in the game. Whatever. I respect the fucking being bold about it.

Kyle, did you have a hollow man? Mike McCarthy Mike McCarthy get your guys out of the game I don't care how many sacks they need to get because the Dallas Cowboys have an opportunity to fucking run the table

here if you can stay healthy and keep your super humans healthy you can run the table the Dallas Cowboys can win the NFC they can go to the Super Bowl and by God they can win it especially if you go get a guy like Odell Beckham and they have a short week

I know that Mike McCarthy's gotten a lot of shit for not being the smartest situational football coach Yeah. And I tend to defend those guys because there's a lot going on in the football game. But one thing that stands out to me is if you're up 37 points in the third quarter, get your fucking all-pros out of the game. All right. Beville Conway.

Unless it's me, which you don't have to worry because I want an all-pro, but I need them sacks. And that's what I would be saying if I was-month-by-parts. See, you were right there in the happy media spot where you're like, I'm getting this fucking bread today. I'm not an all-pro. You're not taking me out.

You take Robert Quinn out. All right. So, listen. Game ball. Oh, Beville Conway, that's USC UCLA. Great choice. USC UCLA also. And I've done this before.

I've said Chiefs a lot. It's beautiful. My God, and Reed brought this up, it's almost the same color way as the USCU. Ty goes to the Rose Bowl. And the old, not the Rose Bowl. Ty goes to being playing outside. Ty goes to playing outside.

I don't like looking at that L.A. Stadium on TV. I think it looks really cool. Bright lights, man. It's inside. But that's why we're different. Yeah, we're definitely. Gary Clark Jr. song, Bright Lights.

Yeah, maybe that's a layup line. That could be a layup line. Yep. Or something. Okay, game ball. It's going to Patrick Mahomes. And game ball, I'm going to give a game ball to Robert Griffin III, who last night realized that Patrick Mahomes is the MVP.

He tweeted, he's like, and welcome your new MVP leader in the race. Patrick Mahomes. I was like, holy shit, man. Rip Van Winkle, where you've been? I know. I know, bro. I know we got to hype up the guy in Miami. He's playing great, and he deserves to be in the conversation,

but there's only one MVP this year, unless he goes out and bombs the last. It's almost like Dan Marino, very, very good football player. Great. Greater than great. Yeah. But there were some other guys that were playing too. Well, that's that.

Look, you're going to totally try to just, you try to trigger. The dolphins. Yeah, got it, got it. You know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like there's some pertinence there. There's a lot of pertinence, but Patrick Mahomes is the MVP, bro. Yes.

He did that with Jody Fortson. His guy's name's Jody Fortson? Jody Fortson. Like the 11th time he's done this. It's crazy. Pacheco, who's a player now, you know, like it's just a bunch of guys that, you know, found items. I'm giving the game ball to Travis Kelsey with a triumvert of Tuddies.

Nice, okay. Clearly they were coming for them as usual in the secondary. They hate Travis Kelsey in the division. Do you have a word calendar? What's that? Like, you know, every day there's a different word on there. I love, I just am obsessed with that heavyweight fight between Derwin James and Travis Kelsey and Travis, you know, two games of three touchdowns this year. He's a beast.

And when you talk about game ball or MVP, like the most valuable guy out there is the guy that you're going to throw to every fucking time when it matters, right? I agree, Kyle. And we just, we just went long. I hope you guys enjoyed the pod. A quick, yeah. A quick stat check in what you asked for earlier before we get to Nicole. From 1994 to 2020 in the NFL, on first down with 35 yards or longer to go, there were 19 instances, nine times the team that had that situation won the game.

Went on to win the game. So your sub 500, which makes a lot of sense to me. And, Reed, God bless you for looking that up. That's incredible. One of those first and 35 were completed. it was a 44-yard pass from Tom Brady to David Gibbons in 2004. Wow. 2004.

Wow. Givens, man, wherever you are. Take it easy. Here's Nicole. Nicole, how much do you hate Ohio State? That's where you want to start this week? Yeah, like describe that because, you know, people talk about the rivalry, but like, I think everybody has, like, a unique hatred of the school.

Describe the hatred you have for Ohio State if you have it. Well, so I think like if I had grown up in the state of Michigan, grew up in the rivalry more, I would have more hatred towards the other school. But to me, like, this is very different than Michigan, Michigan State. That there's a lot of hate in that one because I think you're seeing everyone every day. And like, I mean, my best friend's married to a state grad, right? And like they're arguing over what they're dressing the baby for the game. Like Michigan. Yeah, no, I was like, I was like, I thought of that.

I was like, can you need to, like, one of them needs to be like a diaper so that they like poop in the diaper of the other school. So like Michigan, Ohio State feels like there is a lot more just like respect, right? There's like a respect that this is historic, that this is one of the best rivalries in all of sports. But yeah, it's definitely heated. I mean, like I personally as someone who has driven through the state of Ohio with Michigan plates on the car have gotten pulled over for barely going over the speed limit because it's Michigan plates. and then I'll do the exact same thing driving faster in New Jersey plates, don't get pulled over. So it's like these states really do hate each other. But no, it's funny just because like part of my feelings about Ohio State fans are,

they think that everything I say and do is through the lens of I hate Ohio State. Right. And I'm a Michigan homer. So that's where it bothers me more because like I've written probably more stories about Ohio State than Michigan over the years. Like I was at Michigan for the worst four year stretch of Michigan football. all history and covered Ohio State when they went to the playoff the first year. Like basically lived in Columbus and wrote a million stories on them for for USA today. But nope, I'm, you know, there's nothing worse than the fan.

And there's so many that are like, you hate my team. And you're like, no, really, I don't. Like, I really don't have that much against you. You know, like I'm a Michigan person. You just said it. Like, I don't hate Ohio State, but people will never believe you. That's the whole deal. No.

And like, I'll hate certain things about the fan base because of that reason. But yeah, no, like I, some of my good friends in sports media and in these jobs are Ohio State grad. So like it's not like that. I think there's always because it's a national rivalry, like because everyone's been aware of it for so long. I just think there's like this respect to making sure that it's great. Like there were I had friends on both sides of this rivalry hoping that the other team would stand beaten to make it a bigger deal. Like I don't think that's that kind of rivalry. It's a little bit different.

Yes. Yes. Yeah. And this is the first time since 2006. Both teams have been undefeated. So tell me how you see it going down. And who do you think? I guess it makes it really like it's not just the two undefeated teams,

but also two teams that got chin check this week. I mean, not surprisingly in my eyes, but like maybe Maryland a little bit more so. But no disrespect there. I just feel like those are the games when both teams come off a tough game like that where they get chin checked and they got coaches yelling at them all week. Like now it's really going to be, it's a cherry on top of all the hatred, of all the pageantry, of all the history.

It's like, okay, these two teams are locked in, you know, so I'm really looking forward to it. How do you think it goes down? Yeah, I really have no good feel for it. And maybe that'll change as the week goes by. But like week to week, been trying to figure out, okay, who do I think is playing better right now? And for a good portion there in the middle of the season, I thought it was Michigan. in. And then like this, the, the lack of a vertical passing game, like JJ's not able to do it, not throwing it very much. They haven't done it a lot. Like, all of that's very concerning. I don't

know, you know, outside of Ronnie Bell, who they're throwing the ball to outside of their tight ends, right? Like, you should have more receivers who can get separation and who can make things happen in the passing game. You know, I'm sure Blake Corum, it sounds like he's going to play or is going to try to play. But if he's not 100%, what does that look like? Like, those are, those are major concerning pieces, because like been waiting all year for that vertical passing game to emerge and to grow and that didn't happen. Ohio State, like, their bigger issue is they've had all these injuries, right? And they haven't had their full stable of running backs, but they found something. And they keep having like the next great running back pop up.

But that's been the concern about like, can they run the ball with a running back when they need to run a ball and the opponent knows that you're running the ball? Like I'm concerned about that. And just in general, like the toughness, the stuff in the trenches, all the stuff that. where Michigan beat them last year. Like, this is where we see if changing defensive coordinators and all the different things that they talked about, about what they learned from themselves and that loss, like, this is where we see if it actually paid off, like what if it's more than just word.

So I don't have a great feel for it. I think Ohio State has a higher ceiling as a team, but Michigan had been more consistent. So I think I would give it to the edge to the Buckeyes because they're playing at home, too, and the whole, like, we haven't seen them come off a loss in this game in a long time. but I don't feel great about that. I have no idea. So let's say you have Georgia staying where they are, right? They're undefeated.

Okay, let me lay this out better. Let's say you've got obviously the top two teams, Georgia and the winner of this game. Those two teams stay undefeated. And then you've got TCU undefeated and you have USC making a run and winning the PAC 12 championship. The conference championship has to mean something, right? Like it's definitely not like people aren't going to be looking at a one loss. Big Ten championship loser and saying, maybe they should be in over USC. I would hope not.

I've gotten a lot of pushback for saying basically exactly what you did, which like the conference championship is supposed to matter. It's listed as a tiebreaker. It hasn't always been used that way. But in a lot of cases, it's been a team with like more losses or whatever that is. I think USC should be in if they went out. They'll have two top 25 wins right now. their one losses to a team that's going to be ranked, but was 10 and during this weekend.

Close loss on the road, very emotional atmosphere at Utah. Like, that's an okay loss. And then I think, you know, you're going to have two more opportunities for top 25 wins. Like, not many people have the close to the season that USC does. And they already were at a pretty good spot coming into that. So I think that would be a mistake if the committee decided not to do that. TCU probably needs to stay unbeaten. I've got around in a circle on this.

but I think they need to stay perfect. So to me, that's your four. If that's what happens, it's Georgia, it's the Ohio State, Michigan winner. It's USC and it's TCU. It's probably in that order because, again, I think USC's resume would be boosted so much by these top 25 games. The more interesting scenario would be if Michigan beats Ohio State, Michigan wins Big Ten. And then Ohio State is the one loss at large team because they played Notre Dame, which is now a good win because they're in the top 20.

And they challenge themselves in the non-conference. And again, you would be saying like their only loss, let's say it's a great game, close game. And you know, you're just saying like they're one of the four best teams. It's just people talking themselves into Ohio State. I just, I really do feel that way. Like, and you might, I might be feeding the flame here when it comes to the Michigan, Ohio State thing. But I do feel like there's a bias, a little bit of a bias where people are like, we've decided that they're the second best team in the country or whatever it is.

Yeah. And they don't do that for Michigan. And part of it is because you all schedule, but I think also the eyeball test a little bit. I think it's Ohio State, like I come back to, again, I think a higher ceiling. Like I just think they have more talent and the explosiveness. And CJ Stroud is a really special quarterback. JJ's still really young. We're still like he was super accurate in like the short and medium passing game, but wasn't really doing it in the deep passing game.

Again, they just have Ronnie Bell. The receivers are afraid of getting separation. Like he's not getting a ton of help in the. this area either. But I and then Donovan Edwards has been hurt. He's been good catching passes out the backfield too. But like I think it's like we we see or can can picture the top end of Ohio state. Whereas Michigan is so conservative that like you don't picture that. But this was how we felt about them last year too. So like, you know, although the defense had had more like pretty obvious problems on the, in the Ohio state side. But I think you're right. It's kind of the same way we talk about

Alabama and like now we're talking about Georgia, right? Where like even if they lose, we're like, oh, but we still think that they're one of the best teams because we know the talent. We know the coaches, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But that is part of the reason that Ohio states in this position. I also wonder too, like a really late season loss, you know, like recency bias, just sort of some of those natural things that come in when it's a subjective process, like how much that plays in.

But I think that's the better scenario if you want to get two big 10 teams in. I think Michigan winning the game because Ohio is. state has had more respect from the committee and has a better non-conference with the Notre Dame game. Talking about the SEC, well, I mean, last night, okay, back in the truck up here a little bit, midweek, I had heard, hey, Bo Necks not playing, right? So, yeah, like, I'm going to bet Utah big. So this is why the line got so weird, right?

That's why the line got weird. Well, I didn't see until Friday, and I was so confused. I was like, why is Utah favored in this game? Yeah, and I was one of those guys that was like, yeah, this is about Bo Nix and his ankle and all that stuff. And I heard from my buddy Jeff Schwartz that, you know, the backups not as good, right? And as they aren't. But like this is a particularly questionable situation for Oregon if Bo Nix doesn't play. So I back, you know, I put a lot of money on Utah.

And I'm sitting there watching Tennessee slowly lose this game big. like that fourth quarter because ESPN was not switching the game over to you know up to Eugene where I really want to be focused but I had to sit there and watch that fourth quarter and I feel like Tennessee was truly trapped in that in that in that atmosphere was incredible and it was you you only get this in college football where it's like the place is so nuts and a blowout happens that you don't expect and some big favorite 22 point favorite goes on the road and they're trapped in the stadium. Like it was just the game would not stop.

The noise, Rattler would, it was, you know, big plays from him. Right, like time is going so slow. So slow. There were so many stoppages. There were injuries. There was like scores. I just, it was one of the craziest atmospheres

that I've seen in recent memory. And a couple of that with the fact that Spencer Rattler played really well, like these fans were crazy. And I wonder what it says about the South Carolina. program in your eyes because I want to focus on them. I mean, Tennessee's out of it. Great year. But South Carolina and Shane Beamer and like, you know, what he said, we're just getting started in Columbia. What does that mean? Yeah, it was unpredictable because I think, you know, there have been flashes of like, okay, maybe you know, South Carolina really got something

different and special in Shane Beamer. There were a lot of people that really questioned the call and they thought it was because of his last name and, you know, he didn't have. the coordinator, play calling responsibility, the X, Y, and Z, right? But I mean, I love Shane. I think he is awesome. He just seems as hard as it is for me to say. Right. And I like his dad, too. I mean, I saw Frank on TV last night. And that's a guy that beat us four times. And, you know, another thing like with, you know, the whole hate the fan base, not the team. And I don't hate the tech fan base. I have no problems with Frank Beamer or Bud Foster. Like I got a lot of respect for those guys and Frank was a really cool guy when I ran into a met him so I as much as it hurts me to say

I'm kind of pulling for Shane Beamer yeah he's really likable and um he like every time he's had one of these moments like you just like him even more because of how he's handling and the joy that he's expressing those moments but it just actually really feels like South Carolina zigged a little bit when everyone all zags and was hiring like Sabin assistants and everyone's trying to make these little you know, Alabama programs in the SEC, and they really captured something. Like he is fun. He connects with these players. He's made some really good hires. Like it goes back a little bit to, you know, there's been a couple places that have tried to do like the Dabo Swinney Mold, right? Where it's, it's someone who is more comfortable in like a CEO type role, but like looser,

fun. Youth pastor. Yeah, youth pastor is a great way to describe that. Like, youth pastor with an earpiece. Yeah, it feels different, right? It feels different than And then some of these football coaches who are like, I'm so serious about the exes nose. But he's made some great hires. I mean, you know how much I love the Mayo Bowl and like all the goofiness around that. But his willingness to do that and then like lean and go all in. Get hit in the head by the jug of mayo. Yeah, by the heavy like gatoried thing of mayo.

Like that they mess. Well, one thing they had to do was dump it and they hit him in the head with it. Oh, total mayonnaise move. I know. Well, it's like act like you've been there before. Act like you've dumped mayonnaise on club of before. No, they haven't. But like, there's just, there's all those little things, like recording that other

video about the dancing at the SEC Media Days and then going back at Kentucky after they beat them with like all the shade. The willingness to do all of that, like, I can't think of very many coaches that would do it. And it's fun. You can see how much the players love them and just the energy. Like, they've captured something. I love that. This podcast has turned into a Shane Beamer love fest.

I don't. And making the. The saving grace is he doesn't listen to this shit when he's not on it. So he would be vomiting right now listening to this. He hates Shane Beamer. He's one of those Virginia fans that can't separate it. You know what I mean? I'm like, hey, the guy can coach.

See, that's the point we're talking about, though, because in a rival where there's the respect. Like, you're talking about the players and the coaches on the other side. They feel the same way, right? Like, you guys know exactly what it was like to be in those games and prepare for them. your whole season revolves around it. Whereas like the fans just, it's like, it's blind hatred. Like I, here's a, here's a good example. It's a little bit of detour.

Blind hatred by my co-host. This is good. Well, okay. So like I grew up a Yankees fan. Yes. In blind hatred, Red Sox, right? Like, like, super into it. Our family is super baseball, softball.

So I intern at the Boston Globe and I'm covering the Red Sox for the globe for most of the summer. Right. So I'm in the locker room and obviously I'm professional. and I, you know, I'm doing my job of cover baseball for a couple summers now. And, you know, it's David Ortiz and he's pushing his kid around in the laundry card. And, you know, like, you're just having small talk. You know, I know someone's favorite restaurant they're telling me to go to and all these little inside jokes. This person like, you know, also lived in Ann Arbor at one point, whatever it is.

And like, I tell my dad this. And he's like, yeah, but don't you like still hate David Ortiz? I was like, no. It's hard. It's hard to hate people. He's a person and he's pushing his very cute little children around. because of this laundry cart. Like, you know, so it's like people so quite, like, I get how it's so much easier for fans

to just blindly hate people that you just don't interact with. That's the heart. That's the part that changes, I think. I just heard something this weekend about David Ortiz didn't know. I think it was Dustin Padroia's name, his first name for like a decade. And he called him by his nickname and somebody came up and talked to him like one day. I was like, hey, Dustin. And he walked away and Big Poppe, was like, what the fuck did he just call you?

And he's like, called me Dustin. And he's like, why did he call you that? He's like, you've heard it 4,000 times at the ballpark. So there's no way I could hate Big Pocky, even if I grew up. Like, you hear that story. You're like, oh, man, I like, I kind of love that guy. I didn't even know his teammate's name. That's great.

Yeah, no, I'm with you, though. And so, like, South Carolina, huge win, Shane Beamer, can coach. Maybe they are just getting started in Columbia. Hennon Hooker, ACL. How does that affect his stock? What was his stock in your mind before all this happened? Yeah, I mean, hopefully we see him on Sundays. I mean, he really did some special stuff this year.

This is one of the major bummers of this season. And I hate it. We've had Travis Dye get injured and out for the year as USC is going on this run in the stretch run. Now you have Hennon Hooker, this amazing Tennessee season. They're not going to win an SEC title. They're not going to win a national championship, but he should be a legend. at Tennessee. I mean, the one year, the impact, bringing them back, just so electric. I don't know if he's

going to be a Heisman finalist. But yeah, I mean, we see guys come back from torn ACLs all the time, so hopefully it doesn't affect his draft stock. But I do think, I'd be curious your thought on this. Like, I can imagine that there would be some knock on him for the system, right? That this is just like he's a system quarterback that a lot of quarterbacks are going to put up numbers like that. Like, do you think that he can, like, separate from that? I have to watch him more extensively to, like, really, because what I've learned with quarterbacks is, like, you better study him. And, like, I can't just watch him on Saturday and make that call.

I'm really not so great at the quarterback thing. It's one of the things that, like, it's, I mean, I guess teams aren't either. You know what I mean? A lot of people miss on that. There's one guy I'm positive about, like, positive about. Like, I would, if I was a GM, I would tank next year for him. It's Caleb Williams. Yeah.

I like he does dude and I know we're talking about the Heisman you know a lot right now because I feel like this year it's not very clear right but if you watch games at night and you stay up for a pack 12 games and you watch last night and you've seen Caleb

Williams play I feel like he just looks so and I know there's a lot more to this to the husband he looks so fucking cool doing everything he does he's the coolest looking football player on the field every Saturday and he happens to be in the race. So Ty goes to the coolest looking player to me.

And that's Caleb Williams, man. I mean, watching what he did last night, seeing him in spots this year, he's just, he's so special. And I wonder if you think he's the Heisman trophy winner if you're going to tell me I'm crazy. I think he's probably going to be, he's probably the front runner two weeks out. I forget what the deadline is. It's usually like the day after the conference championship games. But because it was pretty wide open, because it felt like it was heading hookers, right? And it was his to lose.

And then we really saw him struggle against Georgia, which a lot of quarterbacks have. Like, I still think, and I think even with this season ending injury, you could go body of work, you could still get to New York as a finalist. Right. But how many times do we talk about Heisman moments? How many times do we talk about like the spotlight and the eyeballs on? And that was honestly the biggest problem with Caleb Williams, because I think he would have been considered a front runner sooner if people were.

watching him because you just watch some of these throws that he's making, that he's attempting, that he's completely, just incredible, incredible moments. But yeah, I mean, this was the first one, Nation's eyes all on him for 500 total yards of offense by himself. He is very cool, like super cool at all times. I mean, this is the guy who goes transfers to USC and gets his entire team like beats by Dre headphones. Like he's just a cool dude. He's been like the poster child of NIL, but like trying to again make sure that he's doing stuff for like other athletes in the athletic department all these different things but um just incredible raw talent like obviously and then we've just seen him make take all these strides i mean how part of what usc is doing this year is like

the turnover differential right like he's not making mistakes this year like at all um and so anyway he's just been he's been incredible i do think anyone who has been staying up to watch usc like i've to stay up for the top 10 that i do overnight if anyone's been betting usc games Like we're the one staying up and watching this team so we know how special he is and this offense. And even when he didn't have Jordan Addison and his top targets. And then he goes out and does this in the big game. And they've got Notre Dame and they've got probably Oregon, but it could be a number of different teams in the Pact 12 championship games. Like he has spotlight games here over the last three weeks.

Yeah, you want Hysman moments. They're coming. If he's good enough, they're coming. And I think he's good enough. And I think he's got that it factor about him. that like you know it makes sense you know i think to win that to win that award you got to have the you have to have the moments you have to have the stats but you got to also have that it factor about it and he really does and um just a ball player and and on the other side of things watching uh pack 12

after dark by the way the officiating never ceases to amaze me they they like killed chip kelly on a on a on a field goal thing or something they had to re-kick uh in in second or third quarter of that game and there was like no they didn't even stop to be like this is a terrible call. Y'all are just used to that shit out there. Yeah. So, um, yeah, they were like, oh, we fucked up the operation. Sorry, you got a re-kick. It's like a 47-yard field goal. Okay. So I'm watching up in Eugene. And, uh, again, full circle, uh, you know, I watch this game in, in bed, I watched this game on my laptop with a pillow propped up next to me so that I wasn't blinding my wife. And, uh,

and, you know, I'm up till 2 a.m. watching this damn game, like to the bitter end, if you got Utah. And cam, cam, and cam, wasn't great. I mean, he made some mistakes and fourth downs. He missed, you know, somebody open at the sticks. You know, he threw a pick. He just, they weren't great in the big moments. And I love Kyle Whittingham and everything, but they let that game get away from him.

But Bo Nix, Bo Nix was really gutsy. I got to hand it to him for a guy that we were like going to laugh off this year after the Georgia game. This kid has put together a really nice body of work and to play hurt last night. Some of the throws he made. I feel like he's one of those people that the internet's hesitant to give praise to. Yeah.

And I think he deserves a lot of praise after last night. That was gutsy. And he's got a chance to, again, do some big shit in the next couple weeks with the Pac-12 championship. Yeah, I agree. So again, you talk about the stage and the Heisman moments. His Heisman moment may have just happened. I mean, if they go to the Pac-12 championship game, even though they're not playing for a national

championship, on one leg running, that fake pitch, and then, like, the two-yard that he needed to ice the game to beat utah incredible especially because to your point we didn't know he was going to play he was clearly hurt and limited um that was just it was so gutsy and so like for him we've also had some of these moments for max dougan at tc ure we're like they're just so resilient and we didn't know that they had this in them because they were so well not max dougain but with bow he was so inconsistent at auburn like that's incredible so i actually feel like maybe there's going to be entire games like maybe californ's first hyzma moment was that entire game against ucla but like the bow knicks the the two yards that he somehow got on the ground like

yeah and and and you know like he did have some bad throws i mean like he is bow necks ultimately i mean there were some yeah there were some times when he the touchdown late was like almost cost them the game almost cost him game and then and then you know um just the the the play out of the half that they ran it was like a reverse and they just dropped the ball and Utah runs it in. I'm like, of course, I wanted that to happen, but I was like, man, it's got to be tough to be an Oregon fan. Like some of the things going on on the field right now, it was like who wanted to win the game more? And it was, it wasn't, I'll tell you what, those two teams were trying to give it away to each other. So, yeah, Pac-12 crazy the other night, a lot of fun, SEC. The last question I'd ask you is Georgia.

do we learn anything about how we might be able to beat Georgia? I say we like the rest of the country watching them Saturday night. I'm not sure. You know, Kentucky had that really impressive 99-yard drive, and maybe there's something you take away. I mean, Georgia didn't, the passing game wasn't really working. Setham Bennett had his worst game at quarterback. So, I mean, you know, maybe there's something there.

It's just interesting considering the teams that we think might be in the college football. play off like we're talking about these teams that just have really like a lot of questions defensively like when you look at tc u or uc u sc um so like i don't know that there's anything that that type of a team can really take from from some of the games where georgia struggled so i don't know i mean i still it depends how a game against them is going to be played if it's going to turn into a little bit of a shootout if it's going to you're going to be able to get any pressure on on them uh so i don't know i just think that there's what like it was a it was a weekend of close calls there's wasn't as close as anyone

houses, but it was definitely like uncomfortable. Yeah, they've had two. It's not like anybody learned anything after Missou, so it's, you know, right. There's still Georgia, unfortunately. Yeah, until they're actually beat like with just default to. Yeah. They're still Georgia. All right, Nicole, I appreciate the time and there's a lot, a lot going on. I can't wait for next week. And hopefully, uh, you guys come up with the wing. Go blue because, uh, I feel bad for you guys a lot of years. But, you know, as a UVA fan, having going through the whole Commonwealth Cup drought. Yeah.

I want you all to win again. So let's go blue. All right. You're going to say that until you bet Ohio State and then I'll get a text on. I'm definitely not bet Ohio State. I'm not doing that shit. I can't, I can't root for the Buckeyes. Okay, good deal.