Green Light with Chris Long - Kyle Long! On Returning To The NFL. Titus & Tate! On March Madness, Hating Duke & Conference Breakdowns.

Episode Date: March 12, 2021

(00:50) - Welcome, Brandin Cooks Shrine and Breakin-Macon. (10:00) - Kyle Long on Returning to the NFL. (25:45) - Titus and Tate on March Madness, Future of College Basketball and Favorite All-Time Duke Basketball Player. (1:14:00) - Best and Worst of the Week and Reid Roulette. Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I will pick your team for you if you pay me 20% of your salary. Chris. Can you cost on here? Yeah. Fuck off. Yeah. Oh, okay. All right.

Well, fine. Yeah. Like, go, don't go win. Howdy, Meg? Redding, California. Hello. Fireball, California. Hi.

Jesus. So is this, this is now a bit, huh? Where did you say, Redding, California? Yeah. That's pretty cool. I picked Fireball. Like just randomly. That's pretty cool.

We're doing this thing together. No, we're not doing this thing. We both pick California. Fireball is the hometown of Josh Allen. It's also the home of the cantaloupe roundup. It's also not your thing to say. So Redding, California is the place for today. Reading.

How about Baton Rouge? Hi, Baton Rouge. Stop, dude. Homer Reese Beekman. No, if you knew your shit, you'd know he was from Milwaukee. Oh, fuck. I looked him up. Nah, he did the last about three years.

He lived in Baton Rouge. But yeah, the reason my voice is gravely, and these are some of my worst, hellos, is because Reese Begman hits an open three and the Hoos are on to the semifinals in Greensboro. Yeah, that's exciting. It's exciting. Guys, turn that one on today.

It'll be us against the rambling wreck. That's right. Of Georgia Tech. Can I say hello, like in a normal voice to St. Louis? Please. we've got 314 coming up in a couple days 314 is pie day it's 3.14 if you know your math 3.14156 I think is where I stop well Mrs. Albro had it like up on her thing it went around the room yeah and that was slick of her it was a great way to illustrate that that number never ends yep um St. Louis area code 314 pie day also really good restaurant there called pie. One Barack Obama used to go from Chicago to St. Louis

to snag a pie pizza. Wow. Is that good? Hey, one thing hit me like a ton of bricks this week. I feel bad for Brandon Cooks. Wide receiver. Yeah, wide receiver. Also a receiver of bad luck,

if you know what I mean. He spent some time in New England, lost the Super Bowl there. To the Eagles. Yep, I was there. But, you know, when you play in a Super Bowl, the way it's described is if you lose that Super Bowl, you would probably rather never reach that pinnacle at all.

You'd rather go 1 in 15. So not only losing a Super Bowl, but getting knocked out of the Super Bowl with an injury that he could not control. Next year, I'm back with the Rams. Look, we're making a run again. All we got to do is beat the Patriots. We're kind of down.

Nah, lost to his old team. Rough couple years for Brandon Cooks. Okay, maybe it'll get better. Nah. soft landing spot Houston Texans NFL jail mushroom cloud

yeah you know I say create your own luck I like you know I gotta feel like Brandon Cooks from everything I hear is like a model citizen probably trying to create the heck out of some luck just can't get any luck going and I figured maybe we could create some luck for our friend Brandon Cooks

who by the way the arc of this story ends today where he had to restructure his deal as a Houston Texan. Like, listen, speaks volumes about his patience level and what kind of a guy he is. Because I'm saying,

no, get me the fuck out of here, dude. Reminds me to somebody actually not to think about it a little more. Guy doing his job. I had a reduced fee for the betterment of the product, you know? What do you think Brandon Cook's measurables are? 5 foot 10

205 pounds that's heavy huh so you want to reduce 198 5 foot 10 yeah 183 oh man yeah I knew he's a little slider I just think anything under 200 is like small guy

huh yeah like 172 you're like spaghetti guy um few silly Jerry few silly Jerry did you like my pasta rankings the other day?

Oh, missed them. Were they on the pod? They were on the podcast. I swear for God I just pulled out Fucili on my own. Yeah, well, I ranked all six major pasta shapes the other day in honor of Anthony Alfredo. We have a NASCAR driver. I did see that. I did see that. I really like Pne.

And then what's the corkscrew on? Cork screw, maybe? Yeah, it came in number two, whatever that is. Okay. What was your one? Number one was Riggetoni. big thick tubes. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

For sure, as you would say. What's the difference between Rigotoni and Penae? Pene is a skinny little bitch-ass tube. Oh, really? Yeah, played out. I put it at four. Okay. Yeah, on a list of six. Okay.

So Anthony Alfredo Fast Pasta, remember that name. We're going to light a shrine for Brandon Cooks real quick. Let's light him a little candle. Born September 25th, 1993 in Stockton, California. Brandon attended Oregon State before being drafted by the New Orleans Saints in the 2014 NFL draft. I'm lighting the Angel de la Guarda,

the Guardian Angel, for those who are not bilingual. 20th pick in the first round. Spent three years in the Big Easy. Heck of a player. Heck of a player. And I could see his career really taken off from this point forward and his luck turning around because we have lit a shrine for Brandon Cooks

and it is burning. The Guardian Angel is with you. Look at that breaking news. Deshawn Watson is a Carolina Panther. No. No, I'm just kidding. The shrine! I thought the shrine did it.

I'm kidding. I was like, man, we're doing some Wicca in here. It's practically a Ouija board setup we got. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. Do you know how to spell Ouija? Oh, good question. I think so.

O-U-I-J-I? You're so close. A? There's an A at the end. Right, Cowboy-R-Reed? O-U-I-J-A. I like that. Every time he does something awesome,

we just rip some kid rock shit. Yep. Breaking-Macon. You saw the tweet, I guess. I saw the tweet, and there were people coming to me talking about, hey, man, that guy's got great grammar.

Thank you. Like painstaking, placement of punctuation and commas and periods and such. Speaking of painstaking, getting that tweet off was a painstaking process. I think you broke the news to me maybe a week in advance. Yeah. You had the brilliant idea for just a normal Joe to break the news of Kyle coming back to the NFL. I was happy to be a podcast pawn of yours.

Pawn, come on, dude. You're now an insider. I've blessed you as an insider. You Cuck Schaefter, which is the highlight of my life seeing long-time best friend. Thank you. Yeah, long-time best friend. Cuckin, the king of NFL newsbreaking. And your fucking names on the score.

It's on Bleacher Report Graphics, H.T., which I have no idea what that means. H.T. making Gunter. I mean, I'm Dwayne Wade lobbing it behind my back to LeBron James. if LeBron James was a fucking real estate agent. I mean, radon test to guys friends with Adam Schaefter. I think we're good here. Come on.

Just put that tweet on a billboard, man. Just put that on a billboard. I know you've got that picture of yours and some tagline of, you know, making home buying easy, but a tagline. Just a fucking screenshot of that quote tweet from Adam Schaeffer. It's going to sell.

It's going to move you. minutes. You're welcome. To thank you. To Schfter's credit, I was waiting for that. He did quote tweet. Many others did not. He also, well, he knew the deal. Shefter respects the green light pod. He knows the power that the green light pod has.

But I will say that Schaefter went to Instagram did not, did not source you on Instagram. Well, nor did his employer on their famed bottom line, which quoted reports. Oh, ESPN? Yeah.

Oh, that, they're going under. There were no, there were no reports. Cod cutting. There was a single report. Yeah. My last name in report.

Well, it's not Rappaport either. Nah. Nah. My computer got hot after I sent the tweet. It's like, when it,

when it gets all loud and it's like, when your computer, when your computer's breathing. My, my computer. It's like the fan turns on. Had not seen 9,000 likes. It's quite literally what happens.

The fan turns on. Yeah, you had 9,000 likes. You took up all your RAM. You might have broken that story this week, but I secured Kyle Long for the podcast. This podcast. Yeah, this podcast. Kyle Long's going to tell us all about how ripped and shredded he is.

Hot dog. And how bad he wants to win a Super Bowl. We'll find out how bad he wants to win. He seems like he's ring chasing to me. It could be paycheck chasing. You never know these days. I wouldn't be mad at it either way. Nah.

We'll get Kyle Long on for just a couple minutes because we beat everybody to punch, breaking the news. Let's get the quotes too. Macon, you want to do the honors? You had the scoop. Three-time Pro Bowl offensive linemen.

Kyle Long is returning to the NFL. He's 350 pounds. Healthy, happy, nasty, and shredded. signed with an agent Jeff Nally He's back He's back

And we got eyes on him We got ears on him He's looking thick with two Cs What's up Kyle Are you guys doing I just finished our Lower Body Day Second of the week

And I'm going to play At a beautiful golf course In Arizona Not too much That I can complain about right now Golfing is for retirement You're out of retirement Right

Well I'm still unsigned so I can still golf making right. Oh yeah, I guess. Some teams might say guy likes to play golf a lot. I'm sharpening my mental sword. That's good. That's a good answer. That's a good answer.

We want some quotes. That's why you're here. We got the scoop. Now we want the motherfucking quotes. Kyle, how ripped are you? What's your bench? What's your squat? What can we tell the people at home?

You know, I don't really have those numbers for you. I'm just trying to do everything I can to try to get stronger every week, you know? Honestly, like my biggest thing was in my career, I shied away from the weight room, and I kind of skated by on like roll out of bed strength for a while. And I started to notice that the guys who are still in the league having success and having relatively healthy years, they lifted their asses off. They worked their asses off in the off season. They left no stone unturned.

I just told myself, I'm going to get back on this horse. I'm going to do everything I can to prepare myself physically. We know the mental aspect of the game. We've had some of the darker days. In football, like a lot of guys have. I want to experience the good days. And the only way to prepare that is to be physically and, you know, just healthy, dependable, available.

I will pick your team for you if you pay me 20% of your salary. Chris. can you cost on here yeah fuck off yeah oh okay all right well fine yeah

like go don't go win a championship I really do think the tweet yeah gets him 100 gram more than he would have at least

just like the the idea that this guy's shredded yes and nasty yeah when I read that tweet I just pictured him all shredded I don't want a nice oh lime

and I want a nasty one I know I know it's one of the best breaks of all time I want one who goes golfing in a camo hat in a hooded sweatshirt. Yeah, that guy's mean.

One of the valets said, do you have golf shoes? And I said, I have shoes. Like, where you want? Are you willing to play left tackle, left guard, center, right guard, and right tackle to win a Super Bowl? I've played four positions. I've never played center. I'm left-handed, but I'm sure I can make a couple of mic calls. I don't have much experience snapping, but I can say with conviction that I can play any of the fourth spots on the offensive line.

Kyle, would you lick a piece of dog poo like in Step Brothers to win a Super Bowl? If they told me that it was like good luck and somebody proved it scientifically that licking the white dog shit would be good. I mean, I would order it in bulk. I would hello fresh white dog shit. Would you put Brian Urlacker hair on your head to win a Super Bowl? You can tell I've been asked about this Brian Erlacker hair before. People approach you.

You know, the good Lord, he wanted me. to shine so he gave me a bald head and you know he only made so many perfect heads and those are the ones that have no hair on it Kyle long not willing to look like a Lego man to win a Super Bowl um um uh Kyle would you cut half your pinky off like Ronnie lot to win a Super Bowl I'd considered it before oh that pinky doesn't I know dude I got a nasty one too I've I've like banged it on the table tried to get it to go straight not how it doesn't hurt at all it's just you know I got a little deformity now. I don't know if I get a check for that from the NFL, but if they said you got to cut it off to win, I don't really use it much. Kyle, what do you miss about the locker room? The people,

the abundance of clean clothes, the fact that there actually is somebody doing your laundry, like on time. I miss the white Gatorade, Kyle. You miss the white Gatorade? You know, I don't know if we had a white Gatorade, but I do miss the drink fridges in there. I love, we had the Deja Blue water, which is really good. I hate that water. I liked it. You like Deja Blue? Great Spitter as well.

Well, it's kind of got the limo tent on it. You can't really see inside of it, the Deja Blue bottle. It's so true because it is and it's off putting to me. Like literally that might be what was, I think they tried too hard with the phrase. And then the limo tent. I'm not a big fan. of. Yeah, the limo tint, light limo temp, but enough to see what's in it.

So you're not confusing spitties for drinkies, you know? Yeah, I hear you. I mean, I probably went through a cool thousand deja blues room temp in the D-line room in Philly. Rita's water ice was also a nice thing. When you get off the practice field in Philly, they bring you some water ice. Cutical scissors being right where you think they are, clean every time. In NFL locker.

Yeah, Tony, Tony Medlin. And I'll give Tony Medlin a shout out. He runs the locker room in Chicago. He's been the equipment. He fit Walter Payton for his damn helmet. This guy's a legend. He's been in a lot of locker rooms with a lot of different personalities. I miss sitting next to the D-line after a hard practice and talking smack about how they all said I was holding.

I miss sitting with the offensive line at breakfast at six in the morning. I miss the group text. I miss all of it, man. I miss competing. I miss lining up and saying, watch this shit. Like you get in the huddle, the place called, you turn to your buddy and you say, watch this shit. I miss that. We want to shout out pops before you go.

He is recovering from a shoulder replacement, finally. Recovering, but not really. Like, he FaceTime me on the way home. And he was like, so what you got going on? How was your lift? You good. I was like, put your sling back on, bro. Like, what are you doing?

I know. He doesn't know how to stop. He's the dad that would kick all of our. asses in golf, baseball, basketball, but he couldn't because of his shoulder. He's athletically inclined to murder us until he's 80 years old. But shoulder back. That shoulder's been, that shoulder has been crushing it for so long, and I think it takes a toll on everything else. Yeah, he looked happy.

I saw him at the house the other day. Before you abandoned us and went back to the luxurious life of pro football, we were just here in Charlottesville slum in it. And I went to visit Dad, and he looked great. But you won't see him for probably a year now because you're going to do it. do the football. But we wish you the best, and thank you for letting us scoop you. Hit him straight today. Where are you playing? Playing at Whisper Rock in Scottsdale, which will piss some people off.

A Joe Baker 5200 on Twitter just said, at Chiefs. So I might want to think about the Kansas City Chiefs. Yeah, well, my agent is Jeff Nally. Is he a select sports group? They can contact him if they have any suggestions. he is select sports group okay you got beef with them making no no those those guys are my guys um forever linked it's been it's been fun but i got to go uh i got to go take uh i got to take some money off some folks i've never met before gambling gambling and golf it's it's it's prop money it's

it's all entertainment fire beware he's big he's angry he's ripped but he also likes to play golf and he likes to gamble Kyle I love you congratulations on you guys. I guess congratulations. We'll see. Love you, buddy. Thanks for having me all. See ya. See you. Come back. See you. I was sitting there thinking on whatever day it was that there were multiple media outlets with people sitting around newsrooms trying to figure out whether or not my name was a prank name along the lines of say a Ben Dover. Like are we getting punked here? Can we say this guy this doesn't look like a real name.

Is this a person's name? Yeah. Saying it out loud. People have trouble with your name. Pat McAfee had trouble with your name. Pat McAfee had some hilarious trouble with your name. Pat McAfee got it right twice. So that tells me he knew it.

And then we'll try to make fun of it. He was trying to do a bit. Yeah. They went McHaw. Massal. Well, yeah, you know. Pat McAfee knew. He knew.

His people knew. We're going to start fucking mispronouncing McAfee. Yeah, McAfee. Pat McAfee. You know who actually hit me up? Diana Rossini hit me up a week before. We love Diana, a friend of the program. So listen, it was only business.

It wasn't personal. Like two race car drivers at Daytona 500. They're going to be eating dinner, drinking Pilsners after the race. But barreling down on that checkered flag, it's killer be killed. And Diana Rossini hit me up asking, hey, I hear your brother's coming back to the NFL. maybe you could put in a good word for me to break that story. And at the time, I was really just like, I have no idea what Kyle's doing day to day.

So I really couldn't tell you. And I wasn't lying. But then it dawned on me, breaking Macon's here. We scooped Diana Rossini. We did it. We did it. More like slow pasta.

That's what I'm going to call her now. Anthony Alfredo's fast pasta, Diana Rossini's slow pasta. You know, I call her Gal Palantoneo. Oh, that's good. Yeah, right? It's a good name. That is a good name.

Hey, since we're just talking about people in the high school hallway right now, like in the world of podcasting, I do want to tell you a story. So, PFT, commenter of part of my take fame. Yes. I call him Eric sometimes. He came out last week and he has a burner, right? He came out last week. Yeah, he came out with the fact that he has.

He was a closeted burner. guy. Okay. Um, he is out of the burner closet and he has admitted that he is running a second account. People naturally want to know what that account is. Um, he is naturally playing a game. He's getting people to take guesses. Um, it also reminded me that last fall, we were going to do the exact same thing. I have just forgotten to tweet the entire year. I've just had this fucking side account just staring me in the face every time I log in. So here's the deal. PFT. has a henchman named Billy Football. He's a real brute.

Choped down Jose Kinseko, chopped him down like a tree. Do you see that on pay per view? No, I don't pay per views. Well, I mean, he just made mince meat of one of the Bash brothers. He's six foot four, 225 pounds of just muscle milk, dude. I mean, just like creatine, he's got the jaw of like a state trooper.

You don't know wrestling, but he actually looks like Sergeant Slaughter. He looks like a really young Sergeant Slaughter. He's got a pencil thin mustache. Oh. Copy you? Yeah. I've had this thing on for two decades.

But like it's a good thing he has the mustache because if he didn't have the mustache, he would look like a kid that just committed to like Penn State, like on a rival's picture. But like he's jacked, right? He's a big kid. He's like 6-4-225. But he's just a brilliant kid as well. powerful mind.

It likes to downplay it, you know, like play the meat ball thing, but he's a fucking smart kid. He wants PFT's burner. He's hot on his trail. And PFT is smitten with Jack Easterby, like really entertained by Jack Easterby.

So I figure, I'm going to fuck with Billy football a little bit. I'm so enamored with this guy. I want to troll him a little bit with my burner and make him think that it's PFT's burner. The first harassment tweet that I put in his mentions first I slapped a

Jack used to be AVI on redacted at Twitter.com Jack throwing a football First tweet I fire at Billy Football fucking reports me reports you Yeah reports me bro

Like reports the tweet Reports my tweet To Twitter cops And my burner is frozen Billy football froze my fucking burner dude That's hilarious Yeah is it Like how bad was the tweet?

I just, I said I wish you would get dehydrated. Abusive? Yeah, dude. Wow. So I'm just saying, Billy football is real tough in the ring. I respect him there, but is, is he is tough in these Twitter streets. Report abuse. And that's just an auto, hey, you're under investigation?

It froze my account. Redacted at Twitter.com can no longer tweet. Huh. Yeah. Twitter cops might be spread a little thin. Yeah, why are we calling Twitter cops to something like that, Billy football? There's like real issues out there. There's real bullying going on out there.

And you're using officers to respond to like, you're a Karen, dude. Karen, Karen football. Karen football. That's a Karen football move. Calling the cops on your boy. All right. So we got Titus and Tate coming on today. That's awesome because of a few reasons.

One, they're great. Oh, they are great. Two, nothing better in my opinion than college hoops. Three, in your opinion, nothing better than March Madness. I've said it on the record. And, well, shoot, that's a few reasons right there, as I outlined a few reasons why that's great. Yeah, it's a plethora of reasons. And Titus has got some good lettuce, man.

Hey, they, no offense. Yeah. Like you're two? Yeah. They're one in terms of podcast theme song. Oh, what's what are that? Well, you wouldn't appreciate it because it has some play-by-play to it. It's got Woody Durham.

Okay. Old voice of the heels. Yeah. Talking about when Chris Weber calls a timeout technical foul and then they just have a good little, good little jingle going on. I'll play it for it. I'm sure you've heard it. You're a big fan. Didn't he do something else there?

He traveled or he was out of bounds or something. Yeah, he travels before he calls the timeout. Yeah. Yeah, we talked about that. Yeah. Titus and Tate. All right, this is a, what do they call this, a collaboration? Yes.

Crossover. Crossover, that's what they use in the industry. This is the crossover they've been waiting for. Yes, the best sound in sports. It's coming. It's coming. Titus and Tate in the building. What's up, guys?

Oh, man, it's a beautiful day. I appreciate you having us on. And Titus, I mean, it's great to have two Virginia guys. guys in the same building so that's good well that's funny i forgot to wear my uva stuff i apologize i should go change real quick i know still the champs evidently so did i um i'm wearing a purple shirt in the first day the ac turrets i'm wearing team issue minneapolis final four year i know you i know you i don't know if you all caught the game of the day already what that was the game of the day so far to be re speakman sharpshooter baby she just saved his only bucket of the game of the game

of this season. Did you guys see Beheim? I saw the shot and then I saw the instant reaction that I flipped back over because I think Kentucky was having their season end like right after that. So I flipped it over the Kentucky game. But I saw Beheim like kind of go like that. Like he was like shoeing somebody. Was he saying like was he telling his player you got to get out there? Was he like was he shoeing Virginia off the court? Was he like I did what do you what? What was that? No, he was hollering at one of his guys. He was like we've we've talked about this. You need to be there. What are you doing? Yeah, well, tell them next year, Jim. Which I appreciated because we did sort of the celebration culminated on the Syracuse bench. Oh, it was great. It was great. It was great.

So Titus, who is like a closet Virginia fan now, we do side teams here. I do side teams here. I don't want to speak for making. You have a side team now, I feel like, yeah? Yeah, Virginia is a side team. It didn't mean, I didn't mean for it to become this. It was just, you know, I said nice thing. and then Virginia fans are so insecure

that they just like in March and were like, somebody likes us. And then I was like, well, I go where I'm love. So if they're going to love me, I guess I'll go. And then like it just kind of snowballed from there. I mean, you followed the path all the way to the top. It was a beautiful journey because the year before,

people forget Chris, Titus and I both said Virginia was going to win a national championship. And then they lost to UMBC a 16th seed. Please don't say that ever again before a season. Well, I mean, that's what I'm saying. That's why Titus was on. such a high because we went to the bottom of the barrel with you guys.

Yeah, the real, the real backstory too is that I was high on Villanova and Virginia both. And then I jumped off in 2015, Villanova, I believe was upset in the second round by NC State. Yeah. A 1-8 game. And I remember at that time saying,

I'm off the Villanova bandway. Like, I can't do this anymore. Like, I've been carrying water for Jay Wright. Like, I think they're good, but they,

it's indefensible. The guy, every second weekend, Jay Wright is at the CVS desk. I can't do this anymore. Like I'm done. So I jump off the bandwagon. Our mutual friend, Dan Katz,

jumps on the Villanova bandwagon. He's like, V's up, baby, this Villanova's year. And then they won the title. And I was so shitty about it that I was like, because he was on the Villanova van wagon. I was like, Virginia's my team in 2016 or 2017 and on. And I was like, Virginia's going to be right. So Villanova wins.

I see Dan who became a Villanova fan just that year, just being showered by praise Villanova fans. So then when Virginia, loss to the 16th seed, I learned my lesson. I was like, I'm not jumping on. No, you got to stick to one bandwagon at a time. But you know, the nice thing about the Virginia bandwagon is people despise us. We've talked about this before with Charlotte Wilder.

Shout out to Charlotte Wilder, who has adopted us as a side team. People despise us because of the way we play. The efficiency with which we play, I think is all of the winning. All the winning. Yeah. We'll talk about the ACC in a bit. I have a theory that we've ruined the ACC. I never thought.

Can I just say this as a Carolina? guy. I never thought I would ever be on the air with two Virginia basketball fans talking this way so pretentiously about their own program. And as a Carolina guy, I like it. I respect it and I approve it. So keep going. That's great. It's good to have three powerhouses. The question is then, then, and you talk to Titus when he came back from Charlottesville, Macon was a good host when you came up here, Mark? Absolutely. Absolutely. I, you even, Chris, you were a good host. Like, you did a really good job of pretending you actually did want to go to dinner with me. I was waiting to hear how I was a good host.

I was waiting to hear. I really want to. I swear to God, that's what I want to do more than anything in the world. But unfortunately, oh, I knew there was a pandemic coming. I just didn't know,

like, when it was, you know, I was just ahead of it. We're out a few bars. And everybody is coming up to Mark and buying him shots. And then there's another group of people saying, so who is this guy?

I was like, uh, cow guy. Well, like you know what podcasts are? Like he has one. Yeah, really good one too. Like, I don't get it. Wrote a book?

Yeah. I mean, I guess, so laying the allegiances out, obviously Tate is a tar heel. Mark is actually an athlete and an Ohio State Buckeye. I played football at Virginia, and Macon is obviously a Virginia super fan. Do you take that as a compliment superfan? I think of like a middle-aged woman with buttons on her jacket. I think I'm the only one of the four of us who has a actual national championship ring.

Good for you, we want a world championship. So you can talk as much shit as you want. World championship is a Pac-Man symbol national championship. So we do a thing here sometimes where we force our guests to compliment something they hate. And so with you guys, I figured it'd probably be Duke in Michigan. And we'll compliment Virginia Tech on the back end. But who wants to start?

I mean, Tate, I understand if you don't want to compliment him, but the team is stricken with coronavirus. So maybe it would be a bad day to pass this opportunity. Let's say go first. Let's say go first. This is Tick domain. I think it's pretty easy. Coach K for me, you know, this year I had him.

We do a segment on our show, good guy, bad guy. I had a strict rule that Coach K can never be in the camp of a good guy because there is no goodness in him at all, right, at any time. But this year, I saw it. His heart grew three sizes at one point. I don't know exactly when maybe around when Jalen Johnson said, I'm done. Take the D off my chest, please.

Please get this D off my chest. And, you know, the nice thing I could say about Coach K is he let the gray come in. He let it pepper in. And I used to always get on him for putting the tar in his hair to keep it black. But this year, he finally went all natural. It was beautiful. I liked it. He looked good.

They did not play good, but he did look good. Hold on, Tate. You're telling me he's been putting hair dye in his hair for years. Am I the only one who hadn't noticed this? Tar. Tar. Tar. What's the difference?

I mean, Tar stays there. It seems. I am not sure at times how old Coach Kay is due to his hair or due to how long he's been coaching basketball. We don't know quite when he started. It could have been 18. Could have been, you know, 14. Could have been 12.

He's been doing it for too long. Could have been black the entire time. He's like kind of like a vampire. fire maybe. Yes. It's like a Highlander rule. You get it. Can I also piggyback? But that was my compliment. Oh, good. Well, you got two more. Okay. Okay. I have to give three. Yeah, you got to get fucking three. If this were easy, anybody could podcast. Mm, mm, all right, compliment number two. Can be shallow. I will say this. I actually, as a podcaster, you know, we've been doing this, what,

tightest for like four years at this point since I've been going. My favorite fan base to deal with is the Duke fan base, the Duke fans. And I think that's a compliment because, I believe that at all, by the way. No, I mean, I, I am sincere about this. The Duke fans, they either hate listen to me or they want to engage. And, you know, it's good to have an enemy in your life. It's good to have like a common enemy. So if like the Duke people view me as a common enemy and Carolina is the common enemy, I'm down for that. I go back and forth with them. It's a lot of fun. one of my favorite Duke fans is a guy by the name of Worldwide Dougie. I don't know if you guys know who that.

No, he sounds cool and I'll count that as your third. Yeah, there you go. Those are my three compliments. You know, the Duke Mafia. I like them. There's definitely a situation where Duke and Carolina obviously hate each other and they're obviously rivals, but there is a little symbiotic relationship of like,

we have to get people to care about the Duke Carolina game. We have to get people, like it helps when they're both good at the same time, you know. Whereas like Michigan Ohio State football, I'm not comparing the rivalries, but at the same time, Ohio State football does not want Michigan football to ever be good. We're perfectly fine with Michigan sucking ass forever. And I feel like there is a little backdoor channeling

with Duke and Carolina where it's like, they got to prop each other up. Yeah, they got to like, and I always found that a little interesting. That's interesting. I never thought about it that way because you guys at Ohio State sure do not care if Michigan just fell off the face of the earth.

No, we would love it. It would be the best. There's more of a hatred too because to me, and no offense to the basketball rivalry, I know you guys lead the series by like 25 or 30 games all time, but like the football rivalry is the capital of that back and forth to me. And that's why you get such like an intense macho hatred in that rivalry. And you know, it's just like think about the fans.

Like think about the fans at Duke and UNC and Durham and Chapel Hill, how tame they are. No offense. I mean, that is sort of a compliment to like the Columbus dude. that all look like they're, you know, running numbers for the mafia with black mustaches and then the people up in Michigan who are softer, right? That's like the softer school compared to Ohio state. Right. Absolutely. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, if you want to, if I want to neg my own fan base, and I don't know why I would, but I'm just trying to like put a perspective, like, yeah, the,

the game means so much more to us because there's not a lot going on in Ohio. And I'm allowed to say that because, you know, I lived in Ohio for a long day. Like that, that's it. It's like we, that's why Ohio produces such passionate sport. People feel the same way about the Browns. And you're like, why do you still love the Browns after all these years? And it's like, because what else am I going to do, man? What else am I going to do in the fall? No, you're right about that and not hang out on that lake. So what do you like about Michigan?

The lakes, beautiful. I'll say this. A lot of people are saying that this is the most fraudulent Big Ten title of all time that Michigan won this year because Illinois won more Big Ten games than they did. Michigan played the easiest schedule in the conference. the one time they played Illinois, they were blown out in Illinois didn't have Ayotosumu.

And there's just a lot of that discourse going around. And I'll say that I don't necessarily agree with that. Is that close enough? That's kind of yeah. I mean, like, that was like, where's the compliment? That's a good compliment. I don't necessarily agree.

I think Joanne Howard's awesome. He's surprising me. This is a true. There we go. Joanne Howard is, I unfairly tab a lot of these NBA guys who are taking college jobs because this is a trend that's happening in college basketball, Penny Hardaway, Patrick U. and Chris Mullen was awful at St. John's. Tony Bennett. Yeah, Tony Bennett.

Jerry Stackhouse. But yeah, but the ones I initially named were like going to your alma mater, though. There's like there's this idea if you just hire the guy who you would, like, Virginia would just hire who. I'm Malcolm Brogden, I guess, like when Tony wants to, which I guess people would actually They would like that. They would like Joe Harris. But for the most part, it doesn't really work. It's just like a splashy fun thing. And I, you know, Michigan did that with football. They did that with Harbaugh. And it's like, I mean, good luck to you. Like, let's see where that gets you. And so they did it with Joanne.

And I was like, I don't know. I don't know if this is, but he's been awesome. So I would like to compliment him for that. I was going to say that that like, Joanne is very likable. He had to be, you know, in your run down there. If you're looking at Duke, we all hate Duke. I was looking over some of the notable alums in the NBA and famous basketball players of all time from that university. Kind of misleading. There are a lot of them I don't mind. Is there like a consummate Duke Duke guy that y'all don't mind? We got to take JJ Reddick out of this conversation because that's my guy and he would be too chalky for me. But is there a Duke player that y'all don't mind? my answer would be McRoberts because I know him

and I played at you with him and he he hated Duke which is funny because he's got the face of a Duke guy and he kind of played a little dirty and so like everyone everyone feels like he was like you know he represented what a white dude at Duke that's like a little cheap shot artist and talks a little smack and and and is from an affluent area in Indiana

and he checked all the boxes but like if you talk to him he's Like, yeah, I don't know. I'm not really much of a dukey to be honest, which is why his name never gets brought up us. You know what's funny? I was thinking this about your boys, Tate. Tyler Hansborough, would you agree that he's your best college basketball player of all time? Yes, he's the Tim Tebow of college basketball. And he's also kind of a Duke-faced Duke acting guy in a lot of ways.

I don't know if this is all coming crashing down on. You ever thought about this? But he's like basically Duke poster child. I mean, Coach K wanted Tyler Hansborough, you know, so badly. And, you know, you mentioned a guy that I actually like, I like Jason Williams. And before he became Jay Williams. But when Jason Williams was at North Carolina, he wanted to be the North Carolina point guard. And, you know, Bill Guthrish decided at the time that he wanted to Adam Boone over Jason Williams.

Jason Williams goes on to be one of the greatest point guards college basketball ever sees. So I've always liked Jason Williams. you know j williams you know yeah whatever but jason william specifically i like a lot did you see that stupid half-court shot he hit on me that they keep playing on sports center every fucking year as if anybody cares it's like j williams is making the people at the spn play it and then every time he plays it he acts like i lost the bet i said if i hit this shot i get a hundred thousand Not if you hit the fucking shot, Mr. All-Everything basketball player. You barely got it to the stanchion if memory serves.

Well, can I tell you what was going on? I had some new boots. And if you've had some new Chelsea boots, the bottoms on those bad boys in hardwood don't mix. So my job was just to not slip. As long as I had it in line and on target, I was happy. My answer is the Alaskan assassin Trajan Langdon. Oh, that's a good one. But these days, they're not there long enough to even really hate.

You're right about that. You're right about that. I'm going Carlos Boozer. Stared me down once when I was 14. I think he was a freshman. They came to U. Hall, our old building, which I miss. Do you miss that building? Well, no.

I miss the fuck out of that building. No offense to JPJ. The asbestos and such. Let's pretend you can't get cancer. Left a lot to be desired. Okay, yeah. Fine memories. So I was 14.

I was sitting. I had good seats, rich kid, right? fucking privy little bitch. I had good seats and Carlos Boozer's walking by and I told him he was ugly and he turned around and snarled at me

and basically proved my point but I damn near pissed my pants. I mean he totally emasculated me I was yet to have facial hair and he was Carlos Boozer on you know on campus then 10 12 years later I'm in a hotel in Arizona

we're getting ready to play the Cardinals we're on an elevator like four of us right Carlos Boozer gets on. So we're all laughing, telling jokes, it's Saturday before game. He gets off the elevator. Somebody overhears Carlos Boozer saying,

what the fuck are those assholes laughing at? They play for the Rams. So he's like, so he's like my nemesis, my life nemesis. I'm going Carlos Boozer, most hated Duke guy of all time. Can I change my answer, by the way?

I want to change it to Mike Dunlevy. Really? I loved him. when I was he was on the uh I thought he was like a he's a um he was very easy to cheer for I thought take me up on this of like yeah Mike Dunlevy Jr was the original small ball for for Duke back then and he was so good he didn't he kind of just went about his business like didn't he kind of like Luke Conard had that Luke Conard reminded me at Dunleavy where it's like he's a white guy at Duke that's awesome and he's got like kind of a preppy looking face but I can't hate him because he just kind of goes

about his business and just gets buckets and like what am I going to hate him? Never smiled. Solid. Yeah. So solid. Yeah, he's just a great basketball player. Never emoted. Didn't look like he ate a lot.

I mean, he was a skinny guy. That's all I remember about him, but he was fucking money from behind the art. He reminded me like, I don't know, I just group him and Kyle Singler together because they kind of look the same to me. But Grant Hill is probably my most likable. There's no way you can say anything about Grant Hill bad. So. Yeah.

Okay. Tate, you mentioned Big Ten basketball. We hear in ACC country Well this year the season of stupid No offense to us college basketball Super fans A lot to

To be desired with these 7, 8, 9 lost teams in the top 10 It's just a strange season I'll also admit that I haven't watched college basketball All year outside of June. This is very ACC of you guys following Coach Kay's lead. Very objective of you guys.

I appreciate the honesty. Wow, what a weird season now that our conference sucks. The season of stupid. It can't just be that our conference sucks. It has to be something bigger than that. It has to be. Yeah, stupid. That's what it is.

We have a regular season title. We're on to the semis. We're probably going to play freaking Miami. We're in fine shape. We'll sneak into a three seed. We'll be all right. Big Ten, Illinois, Michigan, Ohio State, Iowa, if you have to hit your wagons to one of those teams,

best shot to win it all for the both of you who are you taken so uh i wanted to be ohio state but we we're not good enough defensively we're just not and it sucks because we're i think ohio state i generally think this that ohio state is the most fun team in the big 10 that if you're a neutral fan and you you could watch one team play i guarantee ohio state's games will be fun that's they're not going to be fun for me because we're going to be up by five with three minutes left and find a way to choke it away um but we're we're very fun our offensive is fun. We have a lot of, we could score in a lot of ways. I don't know. It's good basketball. It's fun basketball, but I don't think we're going to, yeah, I think we're going to get upset because

we don't play defense well enough. Iowa is becoming interesting to me because they were sort of the same way where they didn't play D, and they're really tightening it up. And I think people that are paying attention know that. But the narrative, it's taking a while for the narrative to catch up on Iowa because like that was just their thing for so long. It's like they can't guard anybody. And They're slowly, sneakily getting better. But really, it's Illinois or Michigan. I think it's one of those two. And Illinois beat the hell out of Michigan.

So I think we got to go Illinois. But weirdly, something about it. The way the Big Ten always works is it's never the team you think it's going to be. It's always like the team. I guess it's not always true. That's how it feels a lot of times. It's like Michigan State like sneaks it. It's not going to be Michigan State this year.

But the years of Michigan State seems to go to the final four is the year. They're not the best team in the Big Ten. They're just kind of like. And similarly with Michigan, like the year. Michigan in 2018 they go to the title game I don't think they were the best team of the big 10 that year and they still uh so weirdly I think Michigan might even though Illinois kicked their ass I could see Michigan doing it because like people are kind of selling that that's the way it's worked all year too with the big 10 is like a team elevates itself it happened with Ohio state we were the best team in the big 10 we were awesome then Michigan beat us it's like oh shit sell all your Ohio state stock and the Michigan was hot Illinois beat them and everyone's like sell the Michigan stock so I feel like it's going to come back around for Illinois. So lock me in. Maybe this is my third compliment.

I'm going to pick Michigan because I think they're actually the tier below, but I think that's how the Big Ten works is like the one that's like sneaking up there, you know. That reminded me. I like Enter Sandman. I think they do a nice job with that at Lane Stadium. I also never mind it, Bud Foster. You see, I'm a good guy because I wanted to just, I was going to be like, the whole

plan was to let you guys compliment your teams you hate. And then we'd be like, well, we got to move on to the next segment. of time. Well, for me, I'd like to hear Tate's Big Ten team of the tournament. I would love to hear that too. Yeah, well, I like hearing this stuff. I like Frank Beamer as well. All right. Tate, Jesus, man.

He actually is a fucking decent dude. And I just, I've just said. Hey, I do hate special teams, though. I always hated that. I'm like, Frank Beamer, find something else to hang your hat. Oh, my God, special teams get them out of my face. A fucking squid kick. Awesome.

Oh, my God. I'm sitting here. I'm going to commit oh i'm gonna commit to the hokey they just squib kicked it they could suck all year at special teams and and and and and and land one fake punt and everybody's like oh beamer bowl's alive and well straight up right go ahead sorry i watched some miskicks and nobody would talk about it you're right i'm all on your side there uh but yeah back to the big tin i think titus is totally right i think illinois is the team to me i feel like this fan base is fired up i feel like this team believes even against Ohio State. I mean, Ohio State should have won that game. And for whatever reason, Illinois, just as it kept progressing on in that game, I was like, these guys just aren't going to lose. And I feel like the confidence they have is a lot to really, you know, kind of push away. So I like them going to the final four. I don't know about winning at all, but I like them going to the final four. Iowa is another team. I like them going to the final four. So here's my big prediction. And no pun intended there. I think we're going to have three big 10 teams in the final four. And I think if we had a, normal. I think if we had a normal tournament, that would never happen, guys, because you know

this Big Ten, you take them out of Big Ten country. They're not the same, right? Yeah. And if we had four real regionals, it's a different tournament. Gonzaga wins the whole thing. And it's chalk as we expect. But we're playing in Indianapolis. We're playing with like John Wooden statues or every single corner. They're claiming, you know, every single basketball history piece you've ever seen in your life. and they're going to have three Big Ten teams make it to the Final Four. And I think the sleeper team of the Big Ten is Purdue because they're going to be playing in their home state.

They're going to be games at their home gym. They have a lot of talent, a lot of young talent. And they think because they played in the Big Ten, that they can beat anybody, which it may be true. So those are my four teams to watch. How many of the three in the final four? As you said, three Big Ten teams in the Final Four, How many national champions from the Big Ten this year?

Zero. Exactly. Exactly. Okay, Titus, along those lines, when IU, when the bloggers put together their list of top choices for the vacant IU job, will it or will it not be Brad Stevens, Tony Bennett and Mark Few? I think, yeah, yes, yes. Maybe throw Billy Donovan on there. Okay. I don't know.

John B-line is going to be in the mix, I think, as well. Yeah, yeah. In the blogosphere. It's, it's, I can't believe I'm going to say this. I'm talking myself into Brad Stevens, maybe being, maybe. For real this time. Maybe, for real, having a chance. Okay.

Just maybe. I think like Brad, like, listen, it's the seven-year itch in Boston. The Boston fans are over him. I think, he's, I mean, he just said yesterday, he's doing a, press conference out of nowhere he says march madness is the reason i got into coaching i don't think that's an accident uh i've i've been told many times over by by the stephans family that he did that is his dream job is coaching at indiana maybe it's his dream job to coach it in indiana and not so much in the 2020s but uh this is a man that uh i don't know if you guys are aware this is from indiana

yeah i've heard that i've heard that he probably i'm slowly talking myself into it because i think like so what happens is these guys that go coaching the pros uh that you're told they're never going to come back to college. And for the most part, maybe that's true. But you hear this narrative that, like, they don't want to recruit. They don't want to deal with 19-year-olds. They want to do with men. They want to just coach basketball.

That's all they want to do. But my rebuttal is always like nobody, no college coach wants to recruit. There's not a single college coach. Even John Calipari, he just pretends like he likes it. No one likes going to high school games and sitting there and like going into these living rooms and pretending to give a shit about your families. It's like nobody likes doing that. Yeah.

No one likes it. Um, so throw that out. Tom Green. Tom Crean's probably the only guy that like to, yeah. Yeah. So, you know, like I think there's more to it than that. I think the ultimately what, what I hope happens with Brad Stevens, he realizes that no matter how, like he's been how many times to the Eastern

conference finals, which is not good enough in Boston and they, they won him out and all that. If he comes to IU and makes one final four, I don't think he has to win a national title. I think he just like makes a final four for God's sakes. He's the coach for life. Like those people will lose their minds. It's insane.

Indiana has made one final four post Bob Knight and it was with all of Bob Knight's recruits. So that's an interesting one because Indiana, as you mentioned, like for most of my childhood is a blue blood. Yeah. They're still like, I guess like blue blood proper. You know, they haven't lost.

Adjacent. Yeah, adjacent. Yeah, like blue blood adjacent. Kentucky's down this year. They're probably not going to be in the tournament. Yeah. Am I getting that right? Duke is probably.

out, although maybe they have some sort of outside chance. Which blue blood are you worried about never coming back? Tate, you're the blue blood king. That's your domain. He's a blue blood king, huh? Yeah, I mean, yeah, there's like, uh, I mean, the real, the real blue blood to watch at the end of the day is Duke, right? I mean, that is the, you know, what happens when Kay leaves, because this is, you know, Shosheskyville, right? This is Kay's town. This is Kay's world. And Kay, you know, created that world by recruiting, you know, he created it by getting a relationship at the five-star basketball camp and started bringing in Danny Ferries and Johnny Dawkins. And, you know, now Jay Billis has thrown himself into the ring there. But bringing in those guys and then from then on out started to, you know, run the motion offense he stole from Bob Knight. And, you know, the rest is history, right? You know, that's that that's the real program to watch Duke after Kay. What does that look like? Does Kay facilitate that? this K-play, you know, does he play a role in passing the baton? Or is he selfish and it's just like, this is mine and I'm going to keep it for as long as I

can. And then that, I think, Dick takes the future. We always talked about Kevin White, you know, being the guy that was going to lead the charge into the future, but he just left. So, you know, Duke is the Blue Blood really. I would agree. I would agree with that because Carolina has proven to us that the coach, like, they've gone from Dean Smith.

They had rough years in between, but they, they've now, they've had two coaches that are legendary. So it's like, it's a program. It's a program. Yeah, and West Miller is coming. So the program is bigger than the coach at Carolina.

The same is true at Kansas. You have Larry Brown. You have Roy Williams. You have Bill Self. Like the program will continue after Bill Self. The same is true. What else? Kentucky is certainly that case.

It doesn't matter who the coach is like the infrastructure in Kentucky. But Duke is the one you scratch your head? Because you're like, is this a great program or is it just Coach K has had a great run here? And especially when you look at, like the coaching tree has. I mean, you know that they're going to keep it in house in some way. Like the guy who comes in after Coach K is going to be a Coach K disciple,

but who the hell is that? Like who who's jumping off the page of you? Like I can hand this guy to Keys and he's going to. Jeff Capel. Mick Cronin. I mean, Quinn Snyder is the best answer, you know, but that'll never happen. Yeah.

Speaking of, wait, what's your thing with Mick Cronin? I always see you talking about at UCLA. Oh, yeah. So Mick Cronin, like being in Ohio for so long, I got to know Mick Cronin pretty well, not personally, just like I would watch a lot of Cincinnati games. And the guy, like, if you could pick one coach in college basketball, this is still true today, who is the antithesis of what the stereotypical L.A. lifestyle is.

It's Mick Cronin. Like everything about the guy, if you made a list of things that like when you think of L.A. And you made a list of things that you think Mick Cronin probably values, they're polar opposites. And UCLA had hired Ben Hallin. they fired him they hired steve offered they fired him they tried like two hard asses uh with with midwest ties and it didn't work and then they're like you know who's you know what we should do we should hire mick cronan and they they swung for the fences they really thought they were getting billy donovan right tate like didn't that what the yeah am i remember this right barns they

thought was really darned and then they had jamy dixon like signed and then tCU wouldn't let him out of his contractor so it was the whole thing and then mick cronin ends up being like the eighth pick Mick Cronin knows this. He's doing like introductory press conferences where he's like, yeah, I mean, I know they didn't really want me. And the whole thing was hysterical because I was like, how the hell did UCLA get here where they're hiring a guy that does not represent like he's, I don't know. Because you expected UCLA. I mean, like, you expected the splashy thing. You're like, we've tried to kind of figure it out in this interim. Like, fuck it. Let's just go all in and try to get the splash. Yeah, I was thinking. I was thinking like, you know, because at one point they were definitely a blue blood. I don't know if you'd consider. they're adjacent even anymore. But got to be a job that that was curious. I don't know. I've seen you tweet about them a bunch. ACC's down, right?

And one of the reasons is because Duke's down a little bit and respectfully, Carolina's down as well. They'll be back, or at least one of them will be back. What is the landscape like in the future in the ACC? And like what caused this dip? I mean, I'll hop on this.

I mean, this is Tony Bennett's world and we're all living in it. You know, this is what Dean Smith did. Back in the day, he kind of just became the head honcho. And we have a, you know, an old guard in the ACC, whether it be, you know, Litterd Hamilton, whether it be Roy Williams, whether it be Mike Treschewski, whether it be Jim Beheim. They're all, you know, in the late ages of their career, you know, right?

So Tony Bennett is going to take the baton. He's going to be the guy. He's going to be the face of the ACC. Virginia is going to be the face of ACC basketball, you know, as far as the pole position. and that's interesting because it's not the, like you said, it's not the Blue Bloods, right? And I think if you had gone back into the 80s and told, you know, a Dave Odom or someone like that that, like, you know,

that Virginia was going to come and be this powerhouse, you know, some 30, some 40 years later, you would have thought that obviously Ralph Samson would have won a championship during that era, you know, and I don't know. I mean, Virginia is definitely the team in the ACC. Carolina will be interesting. You mentioned West Miller.

they have to figure out what it looks like post roy i i don't know what it looks like hubert davis who left college game day who obviously is a beloved figure around college basketball and basketball in general was supposed to be the guy he doesn't want to be the guy or at least that's what is reported out of the camp there so you know who knows what happens to that we already talked about k wake forest as steve forbes i think he's how do you this year that introductory video was my favorite thing of all I think he's got some fire. Like I think he's interesting at least. Like he's a character to watch.

Like they didn't do well, but their team played hard and they'll be better. You can see, you know, kind of like his program and the way they play. Don't sleep on Boston College when they hire Rick Petino too. Yeah, that's true. That's a good one. Boston College is about to be back in a big way. But you guys were saying earlier that like while we're on Duke before we move on from from those guys that Shoshchevsky and Beheim were like going back and forth

trying to volley to get into the tournament this year. Well, Duke is done, right? They're officially, they can't, there's not enough time. Correct? Yeah, yes, yeah, they're done. We've thrown the walk on under the bus. Right, I saw you saw that,

March. Yeah, so what do you make it today then? I mean, like, are we worried about the rest of the tournament? I mean, yeah, I put this, I said this on Twitter, that this is a school that is so good at keeping the ranks tight. They're so good at, to the point that when, a guy gets hurt at Duke, the managers have been trained to

sprint off the bench, hold up towels, cover them, and make sure the camera can't see them, and keep everything secret. We don't want anyone to know about our players. We don't anyone to know about our plays. We don't want anyone to know anything about our program, except there was a walk on that tested positive. It's all the walk-ons fault. Make sure you kill this guy. I mean, it took

like five minutes. They announced that they were out of the thing and Kay was like, I assume it was Kay. I assume it was someone within the basket because Jeff Goodman reported it. I mean, all of his sources are going to be within the Duke program. I mean, someone obviously, and I guess to play devil's advocate, no pun intended, you might say that the reason they're throwing the walk on is because they're trying

to say like Louisville, you have nothing to be worried about because the guy who tested positive didn't actually play in the game. But I don't, can you like make that a private call or something? Can you just like text you could? I'm surprised the conference didn't say, hey, games are pushed back six hours today because because we need to make sure we have teams in NCAA tournament. A year to the day from that whole like just, oh my God, it's real. I blame everybody who woke up this morning and had their one year ago pieces ready and published.

And they're like, one year ago, aren't you guys glad that that's not happening this year? Bro. And then they cursed it. Somebody started the article off with like, new surge and Tom Hanks gets COVID. I'm like, what the fuck? He got COVID again? I was like, oh, no, it's just a look back at the last year. I'm like, can we do without this stuff?

You know, like, I'll never forget. I've said this a few times on the pod. The last game I could get action in on was Washington State and somebody in the Pac-12 tournament, but it was that last game at night and you were like, they're going to shut this whole motherfucker down after this game. You better get a bet in. And the last year has just been a drag. How about the NCAA tournament without travel and without fans?

Like what? Is there any hidden, you've been there, Mark? Like what? Yeah. What's the difference right now? One thing I think, and maybe this is just, uh, maybe this is just bullshit, but I was thinking about this as Gonzaga was playing in the West Coast

Conference title game against BYU and they get out to a big deficit, you know, like BYU was up like 12 at halftime or something. And I started thinking like, if this is an in state tournament vibe, if this is even the conference tournament vibe and it's a full crowd, not to say Gonzaga would fold under the pressure or whatever, but you can,

you can feel the tension in those moments that like, this team's undefeated. There's five minutes left and they're down six, say. You could see, like, I've been in those environments with not an undefeated team or whatever, but like I've been, my Ohio State team, our freshman year, we were number one in the country for most of the year. We ended up losing the title game to Florida. Second round, we're playing Xavier in Lexington, which is, it was closer game for Xavier

than it was for, you know, they drove from Cincinnati and we drove from Columbus. And most of the crowd was cheering for Xavier because we were the number one scene. They want us to lose. And you could, like, feel our assholes. like tightening because we were like oh my god like everyone's against us and this is weird like like this and you have like random people wearing kentucky shirts that every time zaver scores are like yeah and uh you can just sense it in our yeah you can't sense it in our team and ultimately like ron lewis it's a deep shot to to keep our run alive and and we salvage but i was i was thinking

about that that's going to be that's not going to be a thing you know like gonzaga's not going to have i mean there are going to be some fans there i guess but um i was thinking about that element of it that like the whole the vibe of like having a whole arena of a bunch of different fan bases and all of them are coming together to cheer against the favorite i feel like the favorite that's an advantage for the favorites like that's advantage for the better teams because they're not going to have no they're going to have no pressure other than than just like we have to win this game like we've done all year it's not there's the environment's not going to be any different really so we might see some more chalky kind of results would be that's my thought yeah yeah yeah i don't know

jumping out of the tournament real quick uh the overtime thing like the developmental league they're trying to set up. You guys are probably more up on this than making and myself, but does that challenge college basketball? I mean, are we just at an impasse? Or you guys got good news for me? Yeah, this isn't going to challenge anything. I mean, it's all the same.

I mean, LeVar Ball started the league and he was doing the same thing. I mean, it's not to say that the league won't be a success. I'm sure if it has the funding, it will be. But at the end of the day, people care about, you know, things that they're tied to and they're tied to their colleges. I'm of the belief, and I'll say this to you guys, if the colleges just went professional, people would care more and they would make more money as professional franchises because people would be more indebted to them and have more passion for them.

Maybe not NFL teams, but on the same level. But general, I think college basketball is what it is. I think they're trying to make some sort of small pivot or small change. But you guys know this. if they admit, if they make the change, right? And they say, we're going to pay these guys. Then it admits that the student athlete that we've been living under was wrong. Yeah.

Right. And nobody wants to admit that they were wrong. Yeah. That's what you're asking the NCAA to do. And that's why they won't do it. Yeah. The NCAA, they're never going to pay players straight up. They'll allow players you get paid on the side, I think, eventually,

like maybe sooner than, you know, hopefully pretty soon. I mean, I know all the legislations they can pass with. Well, it's funny. If you plucked like the best and brightest players, I'm still going to watch the fuck out of the tournament. I think the thing about college basketball is the chaos. It's not the quality of play. No offense to college basketball.

Like, you know, the NBA for all the complaints people have about it, the quality, the skill level, like college basketball is chaotic. That's what we love about it. So like, I couldn't tell you who the best players in the country are outside of the ACC right now. Andrew Playtech. Good. That's, yeah, I mean, that is the appeal. Please don't say that name.

That is the appeal of college basketball is that you can win titles. Roy Williams can win titles running up and down the floor and shooting, you know, within five seconds of, you know, and Tony Bennett can win titles walking it up the floor and playing defense. Everything in between can work, and that's what makes it so fun. Last question before we let these guys go. We were talking about players you hate from Duke earlier. It made me think one player that you, if you could live out the life of a college basketball player from any era, any team of all time.

You get to be that person for a year. So this could be like a step down for you, Mark Titus, but like the rest of us. I had a pretty good ear. Yeah, dude. That's what I'm saying. I think, uh, make,

you want to go? I'm going to pick a winner, number one. Yeah. And I'm going to pick somebody boring. Number two. I'll be Mo Pete, Morris Peterson on that 2000 Michigan State team.

Yeah, the Flintstone. Yeah. Runner up, Miles Simon, 97. I might be Miles Simon. That's a good pick. I gotta look up Miles Simon. You gotta look up Miles Simon? Yeah, dude, I told you.

He's not really enough, yeah. My thing, where did he, where did he go to school? Arizona. Miles Simon's a good poll. Miles Simon's a good one. Because, yeah, I was thinking about this, and I think the school matters too, because the one that jumped out to me was Carmelo.

He was like a god. He carried, like, he carried his team to title in a way that, like, we'll be talking about it from 50 years. that that was a freshman came in and carried the Syracuse team. But then you're like, do I want to go to school at Syracuse? That's the sickest joke in the world to be born to Carmelo Anthony and find yourself in Syracuse, which has bad juju as a city.

It just does. I got nothing against the people or anything. It's like, I don't know what it was built on top of. It's just got bad juju. I'm gonna go Bill Walton. Bill Walton in the early 70s. They weren't in drugs, in drugs, 90 straight games. If you think about what it was like to be Bill Walton in the first.

LA. That's a great one. That's a great one. Good. Yeah. I think I would stick with L.A. I would probably say, I guess it would come to mind.

I feel like you got to play in the 90s though because I was trying to think of like also the media aspect of all this. I wouldn't want to play in social media era. I wouldn't want to be like Anthony Davis or Zion or one of those guys in like the more current era because that's too much scrutiny. That's too much like I can't go. I don't want people taking pictures of me at restaurants on their cell phones and stuff like that. But I also want people to recognize me and I

want to be on TV all the time. And I'm worried Bill Walton like wasn't you're right. You know, like he wasn't playing every single night on television all over the country. You're right. So I landed on, uh, I don't want a lot of pressure, but I still want to be a legend. I still want to live in an awesome climate. And I landed on Ed O'Bannon of the 95 UCLA Bruins, led UCLA to a title. UCLA has not won a title since then. He sued the NCAA. He's a legend in a lot of ways, but he's also not a guy that people hate because nobody really remembers him that well. But I'm sure, like, around UCLA, he was like a god. He still kind of is. Dude, he was, he was one of my like final couple. Go ahead. Didn't that O'Bannon take away NCAA

football video game from us? He got he got me paid. Chris, did you get paid for that? I think I got paid. I don't know, but it wasn't enough to like make you better. You know what? That's the difference between an NFL salary and a journalist, a guy who was starting his journalism career salary. I was like, yeah, dude, three grand is a lot of fucking money. And Chris was like, no, I wasn't. Wait, when would I gotten this check? It was a class action lawsuit where if you appeared in any NCAA game,

you just basically got mail to form and you just checked a box and you're like, yeah, I was in this game. And then they sent you a check. And I remember it was like, I think I did get this check. I didn't tell any of my teammates because it was class action. The more guys that check it, the smaller the pockets. That's amazing. I love it.

Okay, that's great. All right. Tate, what's you got? I got Eric Montross, 1993, North Carolina, win the national championship, beat the Fab Five, have the moment against Duke

that they always show where he's got the cut on his face, let people know. And then guess what? The Celtics, because these big white guy, they say,

here's a 13-year contract as soon as he gets done with North Carolina. So you get security, you get a national championship, you get to own the Fab Five forever. And then guess what? When your career is over,

you get to go back to North Carolina, Chapel Hill, and call the games. It's a great life, Eric Montross. Sounds like you want to be Eric Montross forever. I mean, we were doing a life.

Tate was like, yeah, then he got married. This is wonderful. His name's Cindy. They got three lovely kids. He does. 13 year contract.

Donald Williams won the game, but he got a 13 year contract. No, there is something to that, because I picked that O'Banner for that reason, too. You want to win a title. You want to be a legend.

But I think there's something about being a local like Chris you'll you'll speak to this like being the local legend yeah awesome like making is very happy he does walk around like his shit does his thing so he could definitely speak to that being the the local guy is uh that would be awesome that would be great it's not bad you know we're just two local guys here with a podcast mile simon current lakers assistant i might have won this exercise yeah just a good life for mile simon yeah he's got a pretty good game i was born in stockholm except as you would usually do to me you didn't listen to the fucking and you only get to be Miles Simon for a year.

Okay. Mark Titus, Tate Fraser. Oh, what? I got one more thing. Go ahead. And this is, y'all are listening Friday, Saturday, Sunday. So Tate's squad has already beaten tech by a dozen last night. Yeah, sorry.

Congrats to the heels. Yeah. Moving on to face the knolls who are just running through consecutive ACC tournaments. They might be a blue blood soon. No, they're a new blood if you have. New blood, New blood. Yeah. We have a proposal.

You two guys fill out. your bracket when the time comes we fill out ours yeah to a piece to a piece standardized scoring and we come up with big old stakes i love it yeah podcast stakes you had a pretty wild one well i think it's i think it's plugging the other pod every single pod i think that's extreme every single pot i think they should get a pot off from national championship till the first game of the 2021 2021 season so Hey, it's the Greenlight Pod. Happy Friday, everybody. Be sure to check out Titus and Tate.

But we will never have to say that because we're going to win because we already know who's in the final four for Tate. So then you hear Woody Durham and it's, hey, it's Titus and Tate. Be sure to check out the Greenlight Pod. Okay. You're putting us on the spot because, like, yeah, this is. Well, we have a week to work out. We have a week.

I'll say, yeah, what the hell? Like, we're not going to lose. We'll take it. the back end, yeah. Our producers, like, whatever. It's going to be funny when Big Dick, well-known pod is plugging little old us. That didn't sound great.

And it has to be, it has to be good guy, bad guy, Kyle guy as well for eternity. Big Dick, well-known pod. Plugging us, that'll be it. Welcome to the Big Dick, well-known pod. We are here. We're here.

We're going to Big Dick, well-known basketball pot. All right. Titus and Tate. Check them out. Where can we, where can we find you? I'll let people do their own plugs. Yeah.

I don't want to get plugged. We are, yeah, we do, we're going to be doing podcasts. You know, you know how podcasts work. That's how you're listening to this.

It's Titus and Tate podcast, very, very elaborate name we came up with. Also, we got a YouTube channel. I want to plug that because we're putting all our shows on YouTube, but also we're doing like live shows

that aren't going to be on our podcast feed. And we're interviewing people. We might be having, I'll choose this. Yeah. We're trying to get Kyle Guy to do like a little fun thing for Selection Sundays. So fingers crossed that we get that happening. So yeah, that's pretty much it.

Not to burst your bubble, the YouTube thing, it doesn't work. Live shows, that sounds cool. The YouTube thing, I had to sit through a year of that crap. No, listen, you're just, don't listen to him. Hey, will you come to a podcast? Working pretty well. Sure, why are there TV cameras everywhere? How did you figure out Titus and Tate?

Why not Tate and Titus? Tate and Titus sounds like, seniority rules. You know what I mean? It's the Carolina way. You always, you know, it's why Garrison Brooks starts on this team when you have a guy, you know, you got, like, and also Titus is the college. I, I personally, like, Mark Titus is the college basketball guru. It was this. It was this simple. It was this simple. Tate and Titus sounds like a disease your dog gets before you get behind the shut. You know what I mean? It does. Yeah, like we had to put him down. He had Tate and Titus, you know, like. it's like a commercial you see with all the side effects you know

tait and titus all right i'm going to call you all tatus it was great having tatis on and we hope you come back soon buddy uh buddies uh and go who's appreciate it fellas thank you all thanks a lot guys those guys are great tatis tit and tatis and tatis and tit uh we should have them on again i like those guys we're going to mop the floor with them on the bracket thing. How about they told us everybody in their fucking whole bracket? Tate was basically like, oh, well, I've got the entirety of the Big Ten and the elite eight. And I got the 12 beat in the five here and then like.

Yeah, that would be interesting. Typically, you know, those with a smaller base of knowledge, lesser base of knowledge, do better. Do better. In tournament challenges. This is my year. Unfortunately, I happen to know more than both of those two. Oh, fuck. It might all even out.

with you coming in at number four yeah we'll see you know more than them yeah best and worst of the week best of my week was my first anniversary celebrated with my lovely wife i'll tell you what i gotta say that was an amazing wedding that uh thank you thank you right before the world changed um you know how when you say uh something uh time flies when you're having fun yeah sure sure sure sure Boy, has time been slow during this first year marriage, and I mean that in the very best possible way. Yeah, I feel like I've been married to my wife for one second. Yeah, and I feel like I've been married to my lovely wife, lovely.

She's lovely, my lovely wife for about, I don't know, since the Jurassic period. And that's in part because I've known the young lady about 25 years. Yeah. But also because March 8th. to March 8 spanning the bulk of 2020 lot went down

a lot of it not so great but wonderful to have such a such a great partner to live this life with baby baby joined us yeah pup joined us yeah moved into your neighborhood I don't know if you do that

we pray for we pray for Kate every night thank you we really appreciate that in our prayers. Thank you. That's the best of my week. Hey, what was the worst of your week?

Worst of my week? Yeah. Man. Speaking of, I made a little pitts top at the emergency vet. Not a good scene, that emergency vet. Everything okay? Well, we're hopeful that the rabbit is on the mend. She appears to be doing better.

Prayers up. Thank you. The emergency vet, just like a place where no good thing is happening. It's catastrophic. It's middle of the night type stuff. thanks for the folks who were there to tend to the rabbit. Worst than my week. It's really hard to say I've had a pretty good week.

Probably actually my dog, another dog-related thing. Willis. Willie. Willis Long. Willis Long. So puppies nip, evidently. Oh, yes. Like they like to bite.

Yep, sharp teeth. My two-year-old Luke is a short person. Like, you know, maybe not for his whole life, but right now he's too, he's small, dog's small, but Luke's small. So effectively, things like a great Dane, that's what I calculated. To him, it's a terrifying dog.

When I tell you, Luke was running in the yard, like the guy in that suit, when they get the police dogs out there and they chase him and he bites the shit out of their arm, like Luke just did not realize that the more you run, the more the dog will attack. because it's a puppy and it doesn't know

and it thinks you're playing. So the worst part of my week was probably prying a puppy an adorable little puppy off of my two-year-old's hamstring hanging there. And Luke is a human puppy. A couple of pups

who are not on the same wavelength. Exactly. First question. You guys saw the NFL free agency frenzy today in the last couple days one of the players that everyone had wanted to see get their money got

paid last week that's deck Prescott he got 160 million are you pretty stoked I'm stoked I'm stoked I'm stoked I'm happy for Dak man like likeability factor

as far as a guy getting paid I can't think of another guy that made everybody universally more happy for that person in the past five, 10 years. Seriously, guy bet on himself and the worst possible thing that could have happened, happened. And he still won. Like everybody's celebrating.

And for you to be on Jerry Jones's side in the negotiation, it's like siding with the Death Star, right? Literally. Literally. But yeah, I mean, like this was a big victory for players and also for DAC. And I think that a lot of what you're paying for with Dak is not just the fact that on the field he's a fringe top five quarterback. He is unquestionably a top five leader

when it comes to being a quarterback and leading a team. And down there in Dallas, the shit show that it is, the impasse that they're at, yes, you love winning with a quarterback on a rookie deal. This is a lot of money. It looks like you caved. But you need him. You really do.

Or you're just throwing in the towel and saying, we'll start over. And it could be quite a while. Well, shoot, and look at that division. I mean, you can always win that division. You can always win that division, at least from the next decade pending another free agent signing. Yeah, like a Kyle Long. Like if Kyle Long were to go to the New York Giants, Giants Super Bowl favorites. For 10 years.

Yes. So, yeah, I'm happy for him. 160 mil, what would you buy with 160 mil? 160, this is post tax. Do you have to factor in tax? No, just like toys or us money. Okay, 100 mil in the bank, not touching it, not ever, okay? That's for the Jits.

And they're Jits. You taught me that, by the way. I never heard that. The word Jit? Yeah. So now I'm left with 60 mil. Real estate, I reckon I'm buying real estate. Love real estate.

I'm going to buy a $2.5 million home in Seaville. I get you a good home, but I don't want to, I don't want to have like some crazy home. So you got something against crazy homes? I want a modest, lovely home. What's wrong with an expensive home? Well, like, like taxes for one, you put me in a $20 million home. I don't know if I want that tax bill every year. So that's something that you would for sure as part of your fiduciary responsibility, disclose and advise when it's time to strike a deal with your client. Absolutely.

You're getting good as shit at this. Yes. You with the podcasting too. Thank you. Yeah. I would buy a tiny little house pastel colored somewhere in the Caribbean and just a giant yacht. Tiny house, giant yacht.

And then when you're not using that yacht, other people can use it and they can pay you. That's a big. So basically my money is making money. Exactly. Exactly. That's right. A story came out the other day that from 1979 to 1981, a parking lot attendant at the

veteran stadium in Philadelphia actually was living at the stadium. Therefore, what stadiums would you like to live in? What are you saying, ma'am? I'm going to go Queens, town event center in New Zealand, which is a stadium. More importantly, it has a kick-ass backdrop. So this is a bit of a cop-out, but I'm going to live there, wake up to beautiful-ass mountain every morning.

Oh yeah, I said beautiful at, that's beautiful hyphen ass mountain. Yeah. Beautiful ass mountain. You told you lovely with Wife Alert. You're going to live in a stadium. When it was a bit for the pod. This is a year-long bit. I'm going to live at the Rose Bowl.

Oh. I'm going to live at the Rose Bowl. First off, hats off to this guy. You might be stealing my thing here? No, I mean, I've had, I'm already looking up what restaurants are near the Rose Bowl. Oh, that was smart. I have a big, it's a Baker Mayfield situation for me.

I'm going to be bringing my lovely wife, Meg. I know that you were presumably, you know, a lone ranger out there. New Zealand, live in a bachelor party. I'm bringing my lovely wife, and we can come and go as we please, much like Baker and his lovely wife. I can go get groceries. I can go to one of the 68 restaurants nearby Pasadena, nearby the Rose Bowl.

Old Pasadena's right there. They got a Ruth Chris. Ruth. Ruth? Is it Ruth? It's Ruth. The most obnoxious named. restaurant in the world. Say, I challenge you to say Ruth's Chris. That's it just once.

Ruth's Chris. It's, you sound so stupid saying that word. Well, the challenge is to say it at your normal speed. Yeah, that's, so you're like, hey, let's meet up tonight. We're going to meet up at the Ruth's Chris. Right. Now do normal speed. Hi guys. How can I help you? Welcome to Ruth's Chris. Can you do a normal speed one, please? I really can't. I'm going to put it into the middle of a sentence. I'm going to put it into the middle of the next sentence. Okay. There are a lot of restaurants I like. I like McDonald's, Wendy's, Ruth's Chris. It's tough. Yeah. It's really tough.

That's why Morton's does numbers. That's right. That's why there's a Gales near the Rose Bowl. A ton of really nice restaurants and a great view. Oh, yeah? That's where I live. Yeah, that's cool. There's mountains. Yeah, good luck. Like knowing anybody in New Zealand. I don't need to know anybody I Who you having over for dinner

Oh I don't know A book Stupid South Philly guy Was living in the vet Unbelievable Hats off to this guy We gotta have him on the pod sometime

Okay Ask some tricks of the trade So when you get to New Zealand You don't get busted I also might live at Estadi Kamunal Dandora Lavella In Dora

same sort of theme or perhaps oh heyo been here provo utah lavelle edward stadium yeah good luck that's a beauty of a backdrop altitude sickness perpetually i actually did struggle with that when i was there yeah bicycle ride right that's right yeah he had a tough bicycle ride right that's that's right something bad happened i think we just we just covered that what happened what did mean what happened i threw up but i finished the mountain bike ride yeah past me that's right that's right That's right. And that was actually in Park City. Plowoc City.

We actually took a little detour. Is that what they call out there? Yeah. Yeah. Welcome to Roots, Chris, Plow, City. People in Provo, Utah, exceptionally nice people. Yeah, sure.

Very nice people. For sure. But like a little, like, like you're very extremely nice to a degree. It's make me a touch uncomfortable, so I'm going to go live in my New Zealand's city. Okay. Okay.

New Zealand Stadium. In 1985, a 175 pound bear accidentally consumed over 70 pounds of cocaine that was dropped from a plane by a smuggler. Elizabeth Banks is directing the movie about this story for Universal. That begs the question. Sorry, Macon. Is there a scarier animal vice comment? Oh man. I don't know like a meth shark. But that was meth? That was cocaine. That was cocaine. 70 pounds of cocaine. You know how drug

um drug lords all do respect drug lords. They do a lot of cocaine like on their teeth. They're always like, you know, like you see in the movies. Yeah. Dallas Byers Club. Yeah. Yeah. That's good. Matthew McConaughey. Yeah. Um, boy, that was a tough day. I always have to stop and talk about how tough that day was. I wasn't doing real good that day. No, no you weren't. Tough day. I've got an answer to Reed's question. Yeah. Picture this. Yeah. It's been a long day. You're trying to get home. A human on marijuana. Do you get it? Yeah, I do get it. But can we talk about this bear? Sure. I mean, just think about the fact that and this bear is 175 pounds now.

Oh, it's human like 252. Well, I know, but I didn't just eat 70 pounds of cocaine, dude. And what I was going to say is that drug lords, they do that shit to get high quicker. Like, it's like a quick high, supposedly. Cocaine feelings right away. Cocainea. Just like. And then they always say, that's some good shit, man.

Happens just like, that bear was like, that's some good shit. He ate the whole 70 pounds of it. Yeah. 175 pound black bear he ate three sevenths of his body weight okay yeah we're on to something there right and now if you did like decimal point form if I did decimal point form that would be like

about 43% of your body weight I think he ate about 39% of his body weight yeah it's actually 41.1 but that's very good yeah there we go 0.41 is yeah what I was gonna go That's a lot of cocaine. And I was saying how the sequel would be great if the sequel was just the bear running out of cocaine and realizing that he needed to find more cocaine. But people on the internet pointed out to me that the bear died. Oh.

And that makes a lot of sense. It's a lot of cocaine. That's too bad, though. Really, really interesting how Elizabeth Banks, who I'm a big fan of, she's great. I figured there's going to be a great project. How they're going to spend this one? So like Shark Nato? Maybe it ends at just the highest of highs.

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