Green Light with Chris Long - Kyle Van Noy! MNF Recap, AFC Playoff Picture & Patriots Surging. Where Are They Now: Gif Edition.

Episode Date: December 8, 2021

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Welcome to the Greenlight podcast. I am Cowboy Reid. Cowboy. Today, Makin and Chris had a little bit of a stressful day, so it'll be a giddy-up and Yeha kind of podcast. We'll hit a Monday night football recap. Greenlight has a couple apologies due to a few folks and institutions, and we revisit some memorable gifts and check on where the subjects are now. Also, Kyle Van Nuoy joins us from New England to talk Monday night's football game. The Patriots surging to the top of the

AFC and this hopeful easy by week. A couple mailbag questions on the end. Enjoy. What is love? Maybe don't hurt me. East Orange, New Jersey. Hello! Who is shouting out in East Orange? Deerna.

Fucking guy has to deal with Deerness Colin. De Ernest Colin. De Ernest Colin, who's a stud, he's 6-2-315, he's a center in East Orange, New Jersey. That's his high school. The kid looks like a pro-center, dude. This is the future of big centers. We want big centers, right? Tall centers, athletic centers.

This kid's got it all. Agap. Controlling both A-gapes. The thing about Deerunis, Colin, that you might not know. First off, he's a great center, but in a past life, he was a gift. He's the kid in the yellow shirt at the pop-up. he had his hand on his chest Why are you taking a picture of me?

He was like, yeah, like don't bother me. Right. And here's the thing. I hope this kid gets a scholarship and if he gets a scholarship, I promise, we're going to give you a big NIL deal. I'll do you one better. What?

Greenlight Pod will pay for his college tuition to the school of his choosing. That's incredibly irresponsible of you to do right there because we're not doing that. But what we are going to do is we're going to make him one of our four pillars. Four pillars. We have four pillars here. Your faith, family, football, blah, blah, blah.

But they can also be like four great college athletes that we pay to be associated with our pod. Oh, only four at a time. I like it. Four to time. Four every year. I am giving you de Ernest Colin a pathway to the four pillars. Automatic entry, Deerunis Colin. Because he's the guy that for the last like 10 years, I don't know how old this.

this GIF, GIF is? I've been saying GIF. It's from 2013. How do you say that? GIF, right? GIF. GIF. It's GIF.

So I've been saying it right? I say, I say, Jif, I think. Oh, that's gotta be embarrassing. And I think, I think it's probably 70, 30. People say GIF. I think people can say both. You can say whatever you want. It's not even a, it's like.

I read a Twitter handle the other day. Yeah. It said it's pronounced GIF. That was the name of the guys thing, which is funny because. It's kind of funny. It's kind of funny. It's kind of funny. No, because the fucked up thing is this kid's been, he hasn't been profiting for the better

part of a decade. He's been, you know, like, everybody knows that kid. If you described a gift, like, that would be a pretty easy one. And he hasn't made a single dollar off that, I don't think. More than that, he was bullied by it. And that's fucked up. He didn't like it. Whatever kids were bullying de earnest, I'd like to ask them what they've done with their lives.

Right. And those are the only kids I'll ever be mean to. If Coach Laura. kids and the kids that were fucking with Matt and Aggie's son. If Coach Mora hires me as clock manager and recruiting coordinator in the Commonwealth of Virginia, you will recruit him. The Ernst Colin. He's right there in the tri-state.

Yep. Shout out to him. First off, it's really good to see the kid's doing great because I feel like I know the kid in all seriousness because he's been on a gift, which is unfair to him. But there's a bunch of people I was thinking about that I wonder where they are. The turtle kid, the kid that likes turtles. Where is that guy? Oh, turtles.

I like turtles. Where is he? Kid, Whalen, painted his face like a skeleton for Halloween. All I could think about was the I like Turtles kid. He's probably 17 right now. He's probably got his own business or something. How about the kid who slapped the shit out of the camera in the Gap t-shirt? I don't know that one.

A little toddler. You know, a little toddler, he's running up to the camera on carpet. He just opened him, smacks the fuck out of, uh, no. Nobody's online here. How about the, uh, the kid at the Penguins game? You guys know that gift? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, intense. He's intense.

I want to know where that kid is. And then the girl with the fire in the background. Where is she? It's more of a still shot. Yeah, I'm not sure where she is, but that's, I was going to say, that's one of my top favorite ones, the disaster girl. You know, they found in the same vein as the disaster girl. They found the girl in the National Geographic cover years later.

She was like, she was fleeing a war-torn country, I believe. and they went to take pictures and she was this like gorgeous little girl she's famous she has like beautiful eyes and they found her like 40 years later they somehow located her so we need those people that found her

to find the I like turtles kid check it out they found vein popping guy that's the vein popping guy yeah he's just chilling these days he's got a mustache you guys know the one I'm talking is the guy that kind of looks like he's about to yell kind of looks like he's holding in his poop yeah the caption sitting at a desk

the caption was that he was trying to hold in some flatulence next to a cute girl in class. That was posted on Reddit back in 2014. Damn, that kid's okay? Yeah, he's doing well. Oh, you're doing it? Where are they now? Yeah, a little bit.

That's helpful. Yeah, hey, that guy, the guy who was just sitting there with the white beard that looks like he wants to die, he had a coffee mug. His expression is like, everything's okay, but it's not. Right. That guy, the backstory on that guy was, he was like on vacation and a stock photo headhunting firm, like found his picture, like, you're a stock photo guy. You know stock photos?

I know stock photos. I'm obsessed with them. You would be a good stock photo guy for like, um, Hey, Urban Outfitters. We're rolling out the, the winner.

Do you think so? What do you call it in the clothing line, the winter line? Do you think Urban Outfitters, but whenever I go into Urban Outfitters, I can't find anything I want to wear. Never been in. The only time I go to Urban Outfitters

is when I'm in a big city and I realize that I don't have any big city clothes. I like land in New York. When I landed in New York, last time I went to Urban Outfitters, it was because I forgot my entire suitcase. That's right. We ever talked about this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I left my suitcase in the car with all my clothes, just got on an airplane, landed in

New York, didn't think anything of it, halfway to the hotel, had no clothes. Had to go to like two concerts, staying in a nice hotel, I'd go to Urban Outfitters. They don't have fucking anything. They have band T-shirts and slim-fit stuff for guys who wear the beanies on the back of their heads. That whole dare thing, don't do drugs. Yeah. You'd be good for the presentation, the slide of like what could happen. What could happen is you could become a podcaster. You're heavily tattooed. You wear beanies on your head. Yeah, that's right. And you have a podcast. Reid, you got any gifs you like that you're wondering where people are? Because I'm like,

I really need to know where the I like Turtle guy is. One gif I like, it's a gentleman. He's sitting on, he's sitting court side at an NBA game. And you just staring there off in a space and then all of a sudden he does one of those that's alonzo morning read no no my head went to alonzo morning alonzo morning probably most famous gift on a basketball court i would argue second most famous behind this guy behind this guy what do i search to find this guy read i'm gonna find him right now tell you in in 2020 march of 2020 he offered to pay for the airline tickets for college students in the u.s virgin islands to travel home during the uh covd pandemic That's really nice of a guy.

He must have monetized this GIF. He is a really good guy. Blinking white guy. You know blinking white guy? Yeah, I was wondering about him. He spends his days now biking and raising money for charity. Dude, that guy encompasses my feelings about the like life. 70% of the time.

If I had one GIF the rest of my life, it's blinking. Dot Jif. Giff. It's a good one. Well, it's Tim Duncan. Oh, Tim Duncan. Tim Duncan. GIF? Yeah. That was the joke. It was some guy and we weren't online enough. See, this is funny because

some people think like I thought the, what did I think? Oh yeah. Here, I'll describe it to you. It's, and we don't mean to unintentionally be ripping off a part of my take segment. It just went here. You notified me today when I was, I said, I want to talk about Jiff. She said they do something on part of my take. Verbal meme. They explain memes and words. I just don't want a bunch of y'all motherfuckers in my, uh, in my mentions. Like, like, uh, cease and desist. Like, you know, we do a list here and you're like sounds a lot like Mount Rushmore. Although, fuck I know it's it's a list. After,

it's a top four things list. I'm sorry, dude. After interacting with the Lebitard army, bring on the PMT folks. That'll be fine. That'll be a walk in the park. Holy shit. You might have just got a lot more Levitar people in your in your comments.

Hey, the Tim Duncan thing, it's acting like you're excited about something or you're not. It's a very Reed Giff. It's a very read gif. Like, no wonder Reed likes this giff. It's Tim Duncan.

being like I'm fucking here. How about Nick Young? Nick Young. The Nick Young question mark Giff is a... Well, no, no. The Nick Young on the court where he shoots the three. He thinks it's going in, turns around and starts celebrating. That's a great.

That's a great, Jeff. I love that, Jeff. Oh, it's a great one. I love the ramen kid where it's like that little kid just standing there and there's just like a cup of ramen in the microwave behind him. This is harder than... Like a whole melted through. This is harder than I thought it would be.

It's hilarious. It's hilarious. It's a good. How about a dog? surrounded by flames sitting in a chair. See, these, you know what? Wonder where that dog is. I'm just, the dog, the cartoon dog.

That's right. Yeah. But this is funny. These guys are, how old are y'all? Read your 30? 28. 29. I tried to go over because I didn't want you to think I thought you were younger.

The last four year social. And how about you, Taylor? How old are you? 27? 29. Golly, I fucking totally mixed y'all up. Damn. You're older than Reed?

Probably. Wow. Like how many months? A year plus. A year plus. Stuff and reading a locker. He's ready to stuff reading a locker. Wow.

Look at him back there. Look at the way he's looking at it. They're looking at each other six inches apart. Like how old? How old are you? What's your birthday? They fucking known each other forever. Yeah.

They're talking about birthdays off mic. Have you guys figured it out? We know each other really well. It's just funny because they went to school together. What month are your birthdays? September. He's a year plus. Year plus.

What in what month were you born, Reed? This month. This month. This month. You talk really well for a baby. Have we missed it or is it coming up? It's coming up. Oh,

what are we going to do? We're going to fucking throw a party. What day in December? I've never, you know, I feel about birthdays, but I'm kind of, I'm into yours.

Ball pit. Ball pit. Ball pit. Ball pit. Let's do a ball pit. He asked what day? Yeah, the 26. He said what day?

So he's right after. Christmas. It's so funny. My brother's like a day before Christmas Eve day, which Christmas Eve, fuck me. You know? Don't do drugs. I'm not doing drugs. I'm talking to the kids. Doing a little drugs. This podcast is going to be tough today. It's going to be tough. It's just been a long day. Cowboy. Can you talk to us about your relationship with Christmas growing up? Yeah, how do you feel about that? Because we were just talking about this out in the open the other day. Is it cool to have a birthday? Sunday night.

We were talking about it. Is it cool to have a birthday before Christmas? Reed didn't even weigh in. Like right after Christmas. Same thing. Like in the wake of Christmas. My kid's January and I'm like, ah, that's a little close. Yeah.

No, my parents did a really good job of, uh, celebrating of separate, giving me an equal, uh, celebration. Well, here's what they did. But you got to downplay Christmas. You got to be like, hey, Reed, like, Merry Christmas, but not a big deal. Of the five to 18 gifts they purchased. They were like, all right, well, this one will be birthday and we'll get a cake. They probably had to get the cake a couple days.

You're probably eating stale cake every year. You didn't even know it. No, it was fresh cake. Mom made cake. Oh, mom made it. Mom made it. That's right. My mom's birthday is like the day before St. Patrick's Day.

That's got to be tough for her. Luckily, she's Italian, not Irish. I feel like if your birthday is the day before St. Patrick's Day, like, if you were in my dad's side of the family and you had a birthday around St. Patrick's Day, people were just like, you just sit in the corner, I bet. No presents. Like, just a bunch of. bunch of Irish dudes getting drunk in the kitchen and you're like, it's my birthday.

Like St. Patrick's days in two days, man. That'd be a tough one to go after or before. Yeah. So what this tells me is you like the kid with the microwave and the top ramen. I don't even know this Jif. There's an age gap thing with Jifs. Like for us, we grew up with certain Jifs. They grew up with certain Jif.

Well, we grew up with without, without all these machines. Fuck yeah. These kids are just like, is there anything you guys do? for yourselves, you just machines, I know the irony of the question, because you guys work for me and you do things for me. But is there anything you guys do for yourself or you just let machines do everything? Machines run it. We got the Nokia with like the T9 when we were like 16. I was one of the last people to get like a iPod touch or like any sort of iPod. Yeah. When I'd hop on the bus freshman year of high school, I was walking on there with like a Walkman CD player. Nice.

No, you did not have a Walkman in high school. I had a Walkman in freshman year of high school. 12 years ago. No, longer ago. I'm not good at math. Yeah, 14 years ago. 14 years ago or so. Yeah, no, I'd walk on the back of the bus.

Walkman. People would be like, oh, man, what kind of CDs you got in there? That's not bad. Carter 2 is in here today, you know. That's not bad, though. I don't think it's Walkman. Walkman. He's saying Walkman.

He's saying Walkman like my dad would say. That's the lead. Oh, happy birthday dad, by the way. Really? December the 8th. Happy birthday. Big Brad. Sorry, I didn't mean to der.

No, no, you're not telling. This is, it's great. This is going to be an open, this is going to be an unstructured podcast today. Making and I are going through just a day. Confirmed. We're going through a day. So we're just going to lean on each other, have some fun. And Kyle Van Nuoy is going to come on today.

And Kyle Van Nuoy played in that fucking Monday night game that had us all so excited. We had weather. We had weather. We had two great teams or one great team and one team that might be pretty good. We'll find out. one thing I want to find out to just put a bow on this conversation that you're praying ends no I'm not okay I still have some here oh you have some yeah where is letarian milton dude and am i going to be disappointed do I feel like I heard this remember the kid that that took a car he he drove a car down

the street he was like eight years old he went to the mall jumped the curb like people were like somebody's drunk on the road no it's just a little leaguer driving a car I'm just trying to do hood rat stuff with my friends. Trying to do hood rat stuff with my friends. Oh, there we go. That's what I needed. Yeah, sorry. Yeah.

Yeah. I'm invested in the kid, not the slogan. Where is he? How about guy with significant other looking back at other female? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Stock photo distracted boyfriend. Who is he?

Where are they? Where are they? Do you think that the, the girlfriend that's perturbed by the whole situation in real life, you think she's ultra sensitive to her boyfriend like having wandering eyes? No. I think she's like really secure. Totally secure. Yeah.

Yep. You think that when you sign up to, here's the, something we need to talk about. Because people these days, we're not talking about. They're all looking at her. Like is that the girl from the day? Exactly. She's become like a reverse of the meme.

Art contradicts reality. Not imitates it. That's incredible. Incredible. That blows my mind right there what you just told me. Thank you. Here's something we should be talking about more. If you could believe me at home.

stock photos, big stock photo takes advantage of stock actors and actresses. Think about it. There has to be an incentive package if I'm a stock photo guy. Like I'm not signing a contract unless I have incentives. I don't know what those incentives are, but I'd say that's fair. Yeah, monetary. It's like residuals. It's like something in syndication.

It's like when Firestorm comes on TV, my dad gets checks in the mail, residuals. And they're, I'm not going to disclose how much money is in. One time when he comes on, actually, I think we talked about this in the pot. He's joked about it. He's like $5 just came in the mail. Firestorm was on at 3 a.m. Go check that one out, actually. Underrated.

Last gift related thing before we move on to layup line. Believe it or not, we're still here. You know that nodding guy is Robert Redford? The guy nodding on a rock. Oh. You know the guy? Looks a little bigger than Robert Rupert. It reminds me of like Zach Galfinakis playing Robert Redford.

Redford. I have that. I have Zach G. in my head. Because I thought it was Zach Galvanakis doing like an ice house commercial. You know how some of these piss liquor brands have started to pivot to like marketing to a frat boys and ironic 25 year old white guys

that they're good commercials some of these. What like what's the what's the good? There's one of these bad beers. Bush Light. Bush Light I think they where he pulls it out of the river. Yeah they've had like Keith Stone. Keith Stone. There's been a lot of this, has been a wave of this.

And I thought it was like Zach Galvanakis in one of those commercials. Robert Redford's nodding guy is from Jeremiah Johnson, which is a movie I'd yet to watch, but people rave about it. You're telling me. It sounds like a liquor. That that's Robert Redford

and not Zach Galaphanakis? Bro, that is Robert Redford, bro. The guy, Robert Redford is looking at you like he knows that's going to be in a GIF. Holy See, and it's 1978, and he's looking at you like, yeah, mother fucker, you just realized it, huh? Wow.

For a lot of kids, they have no idea who Robert Redford is. They think he's a Giff. Or they think he's Zach Gellifanakis. Yeah, he might be that. Hey, Rick Ross has an album coming out this Friday. Allegedly, I read one tweet from like an unverified. Is that true? Can somebody verify that back there?

Somebody with a Google machine or something. So I left it to Macon to go through my library and pick a, pick a Rick Ross song that I have saved. It is confirmed. There's an album coming out Friday. What's it called, Matt? He shared his new single, Little Havana. Making Love's Little Havana.

And the name of the album is richer than I've ever been. Richer than I've ever been from Rick Ross coming on Friday. And I love Rick Ross. I think Rick Ross has some of the beat, the best beat selection, best production, eye for production, ear for production in the entire. game in the history of the game. I don't want to get hyperbolic here. But uh, making went through my save songs and we're going to pick a Rick Ross song today. Closest ones to me want to see me in the box. Is it jealousy or am I cursed by the gods?

I believe I selected Crocodile Python. But I wrote it down of about a minute or two after I selected it. So I'm not sure if that's the right name. No, that's the one crocodile python. Was there a line that? Oh. I was kind of hoping that, uh, actually. Actually, coincidentally, last night I put Santorini grease on my story, which is a banger. And me and Mike Bennett used to listen to that in my Toyota Land Cruiser every day that I gave him a ride home from practice, as if he didn't have money for an Uber. We logged about 600 miles in my little Toyota on the way home from Eagles practices, and we listen to a lot of Rick Ross. Rick Ross has been putting up billboards across Miami to promote his new album.

So he put up a big billboard that said, Talking them Dollars, How I touch it, come off as a profit. Makes perfect sense to me, and I think he's probably pro the new stadium in Coral Gables. Guess what? Born in Clarksdale, Mississippi,

they say his musical career started in Miami Gardens, Florida. Well, I'll be damned. Your favorite place. Yeah, go Cains. Yeah, Cains. If you abandon Miami Gardens, you're abandoning Rick Ross.

That's the way I see it. And by the way, Mario Cristobal, he's scaring the shit out of me. He really is. I mean, like him and the ACC is not, like I'm not excited about it.

Are you? Yeah, I'm not. He reeks of competency to me. I'm not. And it's like Miami is a sleeping giant other than the fact that they don't have a stadium that they like right now

because obviously there's a billionaire trying to build a new stadium in Coral Gables. Yeah, I think Mario Cristobal will do well. You think so? But it's not like, we're still going to beat them two out every five times. Yeah, probably, even if they're doing well. Speaking of Miami, though, it's been a real, it's been a week full of apologies for this podcast. Dude, I feel like that's all we do these days is apologize.

We had Barrett Jones on last week. It was one of my favorite guests ever. And if you're listening and you're, you're thinking apologies. he fucked up the Miami facilities thing, okay? Ish. Ish. Yeah. The jury's still out.

They're like, there's a billionaire coming to the rescue, but he's coming back. I got to apologize to Buda Baker. Listen, Buddha Baker, we stepped in it on Sunday night. It's like 1 a.m.

I was laughing. See, my problem is when I like a player enough, I kind of like, I kind of think about it. Like, that player probably knows I love that player. And I love watching.

in Buda Baker play. Everybody remembers the D.K. Metcalf thing, and he got tackled by Andy Dalton Sunday. And I think Andy Dalton had an incredible hangal or something on this play, right? Because I think Buddha catches it off command at like the 10-yard line and gets tackled like the 20. It's raining.

You know, the turf is slow. I'll give you that. And Andy Dalton's back there, like, camped out, ready to pounce at, like, the opposite 30. So he had a head start. It's like he knew it was going to be a, pick as soon as he threw it, he ran straight backwards. And he tackled Buda Baker.

And I know the rule in football is when you get tackled by a quarterback, people bust your balls. And I think probably I was the thousandth person. And I don't know Putin Baker. So as Buda Baker would say, Chris Long doesn't know Buda Baker. And he took another issue with that tweet, which I totally get. It was a social that he has scored a touchdown. Now, we were talking about pick sixes, but I didn't want to like apologize on Twitter.

and be like, well, actually. So took responsibility for it. We stepped in it, guys. Buda Baker is a hell of a player. And I didn't know that he didn't know that we were joking, kind of. But you know, like, at the same time, it sucks that he hasn't got to pick six yet.

He deserves one. So I reached out to Buda Baker and was like, dude, my bad, bro. Like, I just want you to know. Because when I was a player, sometimes if somebody criticized me, or I perceived it as a criticism still. Like, we are, like, trained to take shit personally.

That's the only way we survive in our business. Like, that's it. And if somebody said something about me and they were having fun at my expense, even if I was a great player, I would take it personal. So I totally get it. I reached out to him and I was like, dude, my bad, if you felt disrespected by that,

and he was like, dude, yeah, I definitely took it that way. But now that you're kind of telling me what went out, I'm totally, cool and we we talked it out and I said I'll give you six grand charity of your choice for your first pick six and hopefully we can get you on the show so the day he gets a pick six Buddha don't forget shoot me that a 501c3 and let's get you on the on the books for the podcast I told him I'll give him 90 seconds of like a highlight reel of me running looking slow as fuck on the back half of my career and he can just roast me on my own podcast. And Chris, I would like to make it $6,00.

You're going to give $6? That's right. That's big of you, bro. So there's sweat equity here. We are, we are sorry, Buda Baker. We love you. Although the, um, your Cardinals fans, there's some serious people. Are they not? If we were doing an index of people with a sense of humor in the NFL, it's kind of funny when you think about it. We should do a list of whose fan bases we think of the best and worst senses of humor. Cardinals fans for some reason, they, they, They don't have a, like, there's not an ounce of funny in there. It takes shit serious. The uniform is pretty funny looking.

I would agree. And another thing about the Buda Baker touchdown, he did have a fumble recovery for a touchdown just this year against the Vikings of all teams. And so I fucking love Buda Baker for that, making me money. Buddha giveth, Buddha taketh away. Because I'm going to have to win that Vikings money,

which he helped me do on that underwind total, and give him six grand of it back, maybe by the end of the year. Can I mention a name who talked ugly about you? Yeah. Kurt Warner. No, it's okay. You can bring that up.

Kurt Warner, when I was in the top 100 players of the NFL, the one time I got in that fucking stupid ass list, I had 13 sacks. We were very, we weren't a great team. So, like, in my mind, I always feel like, even though I was a slow starter in the league, losing is tough on pass rushers. So me being in the top 100 with 13 sacks being the top three rusher, top five rusher statistically that year, especially coming off the heels of an eight and a half and an 11 after that.

That list looks good except for Chris Long. Yeah, they asked him, they were like, and that's the end of the top 100, Kurt and Kurt Warner, who's a St. Louis Ram. He was like, they were like any objections. He was like, yeah, actually just one. the only St. Louis Ram who managed by the skin of his teeth to make a fucking any kind of list because they're two and 14 or whatever they are perpetually like nobody's watching. You know, if I could advocate for myself, I probably should have made a Pro Bowl or two.

But I'm on the top 100. My man has a problem with it. I'm like, bro, he goes, Chris Long isn't even a top 15 D.N. I love Kurt Warner as a player and as a dude. He's always been cool to me. It's just people like players listen And I know I've definitely offended a player too On this podcast and if I've offended you before And it was because I forgot that I'm now a podcaster And there's a big difference

And I forget the way we feel Then I apologize But we're gonna get some content out of this Buda Baker thing We should convince great players That we don't like them more often Even though we do because then we'll get them to come on our podcast It's like a new strategy Like Brady in his four rings

Yeah Brady is four rings Yeah, radio's four rings. Are you going to go see the new Kurt Warner movie? Yes, I'll see the movie, and I'm not even going to take a gratuitous shot at it, bro. Like, we should do a movie review, and I'm just going to review it. You're going to sit through that and make me sit through that respectfully? I'm sure it's good, and we're going to review it, like, really glowingly, and I'm going to take the high road on that. Because I really, you know me.

Like, I didn't care about the Kurt Warner thing. I don't want anybody to be like, it's more funny than it was like, God damn, Kurt. What GIF would you use? I would use the producer Taylor. God damn! God damn! Like Kurt, bro, out for blood. I had 13.

They ran the ball. They were in four-minute mode the whole season, bro. I'm surviving. I'm shooting up my ankle. I'm shooting up my ankle to play on a bad team. If I played now, I'd have 15 reporters, like they'd be leaking pictures that they somehow got of the needle going into my ankle. every Sunday.

Here's Chris Long walking into limping into the building like this was 2011. It's dark ages man. Kurt? I don't care about it

but now that you bring it up it kind of pissed me off a little bit but he's a goat. He's a goat, bro. Kurt Warner's a goat. He just had a bad take. We all have bad takes like Buda Baker

not scoring a touchdown. That was an interesting take. Next time you just go to go to the search bar. Well listen. We were talking about pig sixes, bro. Any other apologies you have to? Oh, fantasy

community. Oh, fantasy community. Oh, fantasy football. I can set it up if you like. Yeah, set it up. Why don't you do it? We faced each other this week, the houses and the cucks, cucks in first place, houses fighting for a playoff spot for Make It. And this is coming off the heels of

my offering a bribe to a fellow competitor saying, hey, if you sit Terry McLaurin on Monday night, might be something in it for you. Of course I was joking and would not accept any funds. Yeah, we let you slide on that. We let you slide on that.

Let me slide on that. I would never do anything to mess with the integrity of our league. So I'm facing you this week. I need a win. And off of the previous week, you got A.J. Dillon in there on a buy. Another running back spots empty. You got Debo who's hurt. And it's Monday.

It's Tuesday. It's Wednesday. Then on Thursday, games start to be played. And your lineup still looks like it is. all right. He didn't add any whoever the hell played Thursday night. Then Sunday, Sunday comes around and your lineup looks the same.

And I'm like, huh, he's really strapped for running back here because he doesn't have anybody on his bench. Yeah, and there's not a lot like really on waivers. So I start picking up running backs. I picked up Tevin Coleman. That's hilarious. You work it too hard. And at 1259

Eastern time, I dropped Tevin Coleman. Right. Pick up a 4 o'clock running back. at 3.59, I dropped that running back, pick up Matt Breedah. You deserve it, dude. You really deserve it. I was sweating, and it turns out you never set your lineup. It wasn't even thinking about it until Reed was sitting right here. It was like almost 2 o'clock, and I was like, oh, fuck, I didn't set my fantasy lineup. He'll probably be

all right. We're just playing the houses. But then I realized not one running back, but also Dallas Goddard on the bench. I don't think you would have started him. He had a great game. Mark Andrews against the Steelers. I've seen it up. closer than it should have been. You had half a team and I only won by 36 and we have two flex bots. You know, it's hard to beat a team twice in a month. But do you realize that even at 2 o'clock, you can you can pick up players and insert them into your lineup?

I did not know that. It's not like 1 o'clock and it's over. So you could have played 4 o'clock running back. I guess I could have. Damn. Monday night running backs. So that's why I'm working hard all day to try to block you and you're in Lollah. LALAND, thank goodness.

Hey, we might see each other in the playoffs. Won't that be fun? Yeah. And that's what people probably thought. Oh, so here it is. I've written down the notes, didn't even look down. I thought perhaps you were doing this for content, either to beat me with a skeleton crew and retire me from fantasy football altogether or to set up a playoff matchup.

But no, it was just, it was the drugs. Being in a fantasy football league is like running from a grizzly bear or something. just don't have to be last. That's the way I look at it. Like, I am totally good, dude. I don't need to win it. Frankly, like winning it would be a bonus. It'd be like a cherry on top, but not having to drive around in a fucking white painter van or a fucking clown car, a Suzuki sidekick and go to Quiznos every day to prove I went there and take a selfie and put it on social media. That is a fate worse than hell. And Matt Conrath is going to be driving. driving around in that beater.

That's all I care about. One in 12, the Lizard Kings this year. The Lizard King. When a teammate asked me, how's Matt Conrad doing these days? Oh, he's driving around a Ford Probe that a guy used to smoke meth in. We bought it at an auction. He's running a fantasy team called the Lizard Kings. That's all the housekeeping I have.

Housekeeping, kept the houses. All right, kept the house in the playoffs. You're right. Yeah. Oh, that was good. Hey, QB wins, man. That's what it's all about.

I'm saying that's right too much. I used to say, yeah, that's right. No, it's cool. I used to say, mm,

too much. Yeah. Oh, drugs. I have been saying drugs. I apologize to the people for that. No problem. Saying the people too much,

actually. Grass. I'm in my head. Grass. Call it grass. I need to calm down. Yeah, you do.

You need some grass. Trees. Remember that, Kingston? You fellas want any trees. Who said that again? A gentleman at a gas station when we were like 17. You guys said no. I believe we did decline.

Well, I declined. No, I used Macon's roll of quarters to buy a $10 dime bag actually. He was aggressively pissed. How shitty was that? How shitty was it? It was the worst weed I've ever smoked in my life. But Macon was aggressively pissed off that I used his $10 of quarters. Of course, dude. You know how long he'd been saving those?

This is a frugal motherfucker now. Well, and that you were buying drugs. They were illegal. Did you think about saying that? something to somebody? I mean Matt and I were so very close in high school

and the only point of contention was drugs. Smoking drugs. That's incredible, dude. QB wins, though. That's what it's all about. Mack Jones, another one. He outduled, Josh Allen. Obviously,

he didn't, but I want to update you on the offense rookie of the year odds. Mac Jones minus 500, Jamar Chase plus 350, Naji Harris, plus 5,000. And then it's a cliff. By the way, Jalen Waddle, you know he's playing well for people to notice him in Miami. That was my pick, by the way. Really? Yeah, preseason. Take it back to Duck North Carolina.

Like horseshoes or that brandy song? Almost doesn't count. Yeah. Is Mack Jones your rookie of the year? I reckon so. He's been excellent. He's not the best rookie, though. I don't care that he was one of two. They're nine and four for crying out loud. Slater, where is Slater? Oh, good call. Nobody's talking about Slater. Good call. know somebody out there is talking about Slater, but smart football people should be talking about Slater because he's been probably the most

impressive rookie. That's one of the hardest positions to transition to. And he's been dominant. Unbelievable. So he should be talked about, but they'll never give it to an alignment. Hey, on the game Monday night, everybody's talking about the weather. There's something

people aren't thinking about. The plane ride. Do we just give them... I did think about that. Do we just give them worse plane ride and just move on? when I I'm asking Bill if I can catch an Uber back to New England there's no way I'm getting on a plane after that game I kept with the SVP and Stanford Steve and they were talking about the pets being on the plane

after the game and I was like whoa like on an airplane yeah did you did you see the ticker at the bottom of the pilot were the pilots watching the game I mean yeah maybe you bust back let's see absolutely dude the first kickoff went out of the fucking stadium it was one of the coolest out of the, off the field of play.

Like a fan caught the first kickoff. It was one of the coolest starts to a football game I've ever seen. I feel like they should do that every week. First kickoff, you should get no penalty for just kicking that motherfucker into the stands. Any direction you want.

Give them a point. It should be an NFL tradition, makes the game safer, gets the fans involved. Did you know? For the kicking team, guarantees safe play. Buffalo and Foxborough

are almost directly east-west. What will we say? They're on the same latitude. Yeah. That's right. About 500 miles apart, have been a seven-hour ride. Oh, no questions asked.

Because here's the deal. A little peek behind the curtain. After a game like that, depending on how quick your equipment crew is, whatever's going on with the flight, that sort of thing. And we'll ask Kyle Van Nuoy about this later. It might take hours,

hours to get on the plane, let alone take off. Sometimes you get on the plane, you sit there in your seat next to Jordan Milata. That's who I keep picturing sitting next to on a flight, some 6-8 dude. You're in your fourth bag of like funnions, and you haven't taken off yet.

Everybody showers, right? I would hope so. Are there a couple guys who go stinky? I would hope not. I would hope not. I would hope at least being shower pills are okay after like a walk-through or like a light practice. shower pills shower is what you call it if you skip the shower that day or at least went to meetings without the shower and and carved out a little private time in the shower because the thing about the shower is yeah well not for that reason it's just like you don't want to be in there with a hundred dudes i'm telling i've told this before is like

the showers are tight next to each other i'm getting missed off of jason peters's back like that's not if it comes down to i got to sit in meetings in my grays for an hour, a little bit funky, I'm going to do that rather than it's like I'm looking at Niagara Falls. You know, like if you go down and look at Niagara Falls, you just get a constant, that's some O'Lyman's back missed. So there's a reason

for a shower pill sometimes, but never after a game. Never, I don't care how tight the locker room is. The Chief's locker room is like this big, the Way locker room. It's this big. I'll shower in there a hundred times before I do that. But three hours, fuck,

I could be in, I don't know. I have no idea of the town between New England and Buffalo, between Boston and Buffalo. Three hours are you being in Syracuse? I could be in Syracuse,

dude. I could be in Syracuse pumping the jams, hanging out, probably bring a friend with me, and you guys take your chances, 55 mile per hour wing us. You kidding me? I'm not getting on a flight that short.

More like Chicago O'Hara Wing descent international airport. Can you put a plane crash noise after that? It's the windy city. I know. I get it.

But if there's like a plane crash noise with all due respect to plane crash is like put a plane crash noise in after that. Trademark. That joke. Love is love. No, but the wind was bad, man. It was bad, bad.

And the people were blowing off their director's chairs there for ESPN. And until they, that point until like you heard the microphones where you could really tell how windy it is when you hear like the mic yeah oh you're misophonic that's different you're flopping into the microphone it's different than a chew that was the noise that I was trying to hear Matt Jude on after the game and I couldn't hear because the wind was just so so it's not until you see an object fly across the field or you hear a microphone or you watch susu-

Colbert almost fall on the ground, that you realize how windy it was on that field. And that's why the under was a no-brainer. Under the pads, it was very profitable night. This was as a gambler, like the rare night that what seems obvious is the right side. Because you would say that's, I mean, the bets were split a little more down the middle than I would have thought maybe people haven't watched Buffalo as much this year. Maybe they were buying the, you know, the fact that the Patriots are on this crazy streak.

You want to get off the train before it. On the Friday show, Stephen said that Buffalo was his favorite pick of the year. He was a week late on that. It was Buffalo over New Orleans. That was the lock. We were all over that. Yes. But that's the thing is like I was like putting the bets in and I was like, okay, fuck

man, this seems like the thing I'm trying to quit doing, you know, betting the obvious thing. And it worked out. Tough missed opportunity for the bills, like on a macro level and then within the game. When you look at the big picture, I was saying this the other night. you in the NFL can lose a bunch of games, be still in it, and win one big game towards the end of the season in December, and people forget about,

rightfully so, the first eight, 12, 13 weeks, because it's about what you're capable of. Like, if you get in, how much can you scare teams? And it's about how much you've grown. And, like, the bills have,

they still have opportunities, but this would have been a great opportunity for them to make everybody forget, like do the men and black thing to everybody when it came to losing to Jacksonville or some of the uninspiring run game stuff or some of the turnovers.

The inconsistency. They're going to still have the bucks at the bucks. They're still going to have the pats again at the pats. And in some ways, I'll judge that game more wholly than I did this one. And not to bring Kurt Warner up again, but Kurt Warner is a fucking rough pod.

For Kurt Warner, I still love Kurt Warner. Okay, I got a, whenever I pseudo-criticize somebody, I'm going to do this thing now. I love this person, but because then we're safe on the Buda Baker thing. I love Kurt Warner, but he had a take on every game should be played in domes that is just lighted on fire. Oh my gosh. Like no more stadiums. A Kurt, bro, like, and he acknowledges he's a dumb guy.

But come on, man. You know, they got that come on man thing. Come on, man. Come on, man. People loved that game last night because it was chaos. It's fun. It's different. I'm tired of regular football.

And as a former defensive lineman, the atmosphere is just different on third down outdoors. It's just different. The noise might be really high inside, but when you're in a real football stadium outside in the elements, it just feels like playoff football. And Kurt said he loves dome. In so many words, yes.

I couldn't disagree with that anymore. Okay. well maybe you're just not playing in the right domes we talked about that last week the uh what was the most disgusting uh turf ice i sent you uh oh you didn't like the uh the turf in uh in it was at the big 10 championship i believe oh lucas oil like indianapolis underrated awful turf the pellets yeah let's start making them green green huh yeah because all the black i have an idea we fell into something we've fallen into something here read red pellets in the red zone.

Oh, God. Mandate it. No. You can color the fields if you want to do colored turf. It'd be like the hockey puck having a yellow trail behind it. That would be cool on TV. Look at those pellets. They're in the red zone. Fuck.

No, Virginia. Unless you're the bills. If you're the bills, you don't want to have red pellets under your feet because they were bad in the red zone last night. See, I got us out of that? Yeah. Good. I still think it's a great idea. People at home are nodding along. A Buffalo also has Panthers, Falcons, jets at home.

No, they're going to be okay. They're going to get in this thing. But they need to prove one time before the playoffs to me that they've got what it takes to go beat a team like this. And last night they missed a lot of opportunities. You know, the free to fumble, which was like a routine deal. I mean, he's just taking a hand off. The ball's rock hard or ultra slick.

But it just fell off his chest. And, you know, when you're bad in the red zone anyways, you're in Patriot's territory. You turn the ball over. That's terrible. Dawson Knox, a couple drops, third downs, and a false start that made it like third and 14 or something in the decisive minutes of the game.

So multiple digs missed opportunities, right? They just like, they absolutely could have won this game last night. Absolutely. It's as if they took their cue from Bill in the first quarter. Oh, playing V conservative appears to be the play. They had the win in that first quarter. Hit the gas. Yeah, don't look around, you know, like don't read the room.

Just play. Play your game. Because to be honest, if I'm a Patriot, I want the bills to just run the ball. Yeah. And as our friends Peyton and Eli were noting, Josh Allen throws a very tight spiral that the wind is not affecting. That was something that I noticed them saying when I was over there for a second was that like, you know, the wind's going to affect him a lot less than it's going to affect Peyton.

And two perfect places those two played. I mean, but if you're going to deal with games like this, you have to be able to just be aggressive because the Pats, their whole mindset was, and there was a Shell Capadia article in the athletic, and he's great, but 222 yards, and he says, this is on the ground, he says they didn't gash the bill's defense, really because 45 for 154, 3.4 yards per carry

without the 68-yarder that Damien Harris broke off, and that would be a below league average EPA. To me, and these are all good points, which prove the safeties in the Bill's locker rooms, kind of like dissatisfaction with the line of questioning after the game. There was a guy who was being kind of a hard ass in the locker room, and he was like, are you embarrassed by that? I'm like, well, to be honest, when you look at that,

3.4 yards of carry without the 68 yarder. They did a pretty good job overall, but what Bill knew is that it wasn't about like, you know, yards per carry or EPA, it was about making the bills be perfect. In their run fits, in their tackling, in their angles. It took one bad angle on a third and five toss, right? And it's out the gate.

And seven points in that game, I mean, the bills, the bill, yeah, eight points. The only score the bills had was because of the Nikiel Harry muff, forehead graze, which we'll talk about in a second. But one play like that and Bill knew it, one bad angle, one miss tackle, And we've got this thing. Like we can play the game on our terms if we do that.

And the Pats have a low floor. They didn't need the elements. Like last year, the elements got the Pats when the Bills played them. The Bills forced to fumble at the end of the game. On a Cam Newton fumble, I think, you know, driving down to win that game. That was the competitive game those two teams played in. When they played late in the season, it wasn't like for all the marbles. I think, you know, one team's out of it.

So the Pats don't need the elements to beat the Bills. what they did is they took advantage of what the elements brought, which was they knew that every down the bills would really believe that they were just going to get toss and counter until the cows came home. And that lulls you to sleep,

you've got to make a bunch of tacklers, you've got to fit a bunch of people. Some of these toss plays, there were like 18 bodies in a pile of people. Where's the ball carrier? And by the way, the guards for the Patriots did a great job. Karras, who's developed amazingly there,

no surprise. Um, Shaq Mason, who's like a favorite there. I mean, for good reason, he's so valuable to them. We used to run, uh, sprints up this hill after practice. And people were like, God damn, we just finished practice. We gotta run a couple sprints. So they weren't, weren't hard. But Shaq Mason won every single sprint.

Like I have it in the back of my head like Bill at the line going, Shaq, because he won by like a nose and Shaq by a nose. And Bill loves saying that like every sprint. That's why he's so competitive there. He's just been like a nonstop. effort guy. He's a non-stop technician. Like he did a good job against Aaron Donald and Super Bowl.

This guy and Ted last night, it felt like every productive play they had, these guys were on the move, including that touchdown. And the play action never came. Play action never came. So like you're sitting there and you're thinking, well, they're not just going to throw the ball three times,

are they? It's like a logical warfare. Yeah, they really are. Load the box and just buckle up and don't miss any tackles. Bill wore a Navy mask out of the tunnel. So I don't know if he was doing it because of the Army Navy game this week, but he had a Navy mask on in the tunnel. He told you that he was going to run the ball 56 times.

11 first downs, not a lot of first downs. Yeah, so I mean, it was more than that. Listen, you know, whether it was Bolden on 3rd and 4, Shaq getting a little piece of the nose before finding work, and like the move tight end getting enough on Edmonds, These are big little plays that they don't seem like much, but they were running the ball in third and medium. They were on third and 13.

They were sneaking it on third and five. Incredible. Incredible. So a lot of fun to watch. So game ball for me goes to those two guards, man. Guys were just crushing it all night. And Nikiel Harry, man. Catching punts in that circumstance.

I mean, jobs, I would rather be like an ice road trucker for a year than any of the jobs at my job. Mike Rowe went to visit. I'd rather do that than catch punts in that. Even when the returners were yelling poison, like the gunners couldn't even get out of the way. Like, where is the poison, man. I don't know where to be. And so I feel for him, although like once you, once it hits your helmet, like, you got to really go get that ball.

But slow motion makes it look worse. I think it was a very confusing situation because if you're him, you're like, did it hit me? Did it not? Am I now going to touch it and then make things worse? And if you're in to kill Harry, remember we said this. there was like a trade me thing and then there was like nah me and bill worked it out thing and i was like okay and he hasn't been a huge part of the offense but he has been blocking as reed pointed out today and he and he blocked his ass off and a lot of those uh cracked tosses um and so i think he

hopefully made up for his mistake in the film room i think if there's any mistake somebody's going to understand him making although he's the wrong guy to make it the wind was out of control Bill doesn't want to hear that I'm sure Manning Cass was that ain't good Manning Cass was good it was especially good no shade to any guess past or present but the first quarter

was just them and they really got into a groove that was awesome I was awesome I imagine Dave Letterman had some technical issues because he didn't come on until about four minutes to go in the second quarter Lederman had some edibles before he went on all right so everybody's killing Dave Letterman and that's the wrong take Dave Letterman

deserves our respect our praise now I'm not saying he belongs on the Manning cast He has all my respect all my praise I love the guy He's a genius He's a great interviewer

It's a hard ask He was trying to be a funny Bill where's your Where's your hankies Well he really stepped in it With the two point conversion thing Because right Like everybody's into him now

And he's like It's not a statistical likely play. I'm like, oh, have you seen extra points lately? Get rid of punts. It just wasn't quite working for Dave. Yeah. And I love Dave. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's all we have to say about that. Change the game in late night. Akib was great. Akib was great. Akib was great. A lot of fun. He's knowledgeable. And he gives you real stories. Like, I loved the story about he was getting ready to sign with New England and the tail end of his career. And he was looking at the schedule.

And he saw the tight ends on the schedule. Bill said you're going to be the tight end stopper. Yeah, like, well, you're going to have to pay me a lot more money. Like the price of the tight end stopper just went up. I saw the little magnet with the teams on it on the refrigerator, Bill. And he's wearing the free socks with Peyton's face on them. And he made the great point that the more money you have, the less you expect to pay for things. But it's not for free, though.

This is the interesting thing. What we really become as pro athletes and we get a bunch of free shit, a lot of it we don't need. Like, I guarantee you he wore those socks. because he was like he needed socks and they were just in his locker because they pass out like a bunch of hey check our thing out wear it posting on IG it's even worse now but like yeah worse getting free shit but we're paying because we're giving somebody free advertising it's like when people send us stuff we joke with read like old spice sends us stuff and we're like ha ha old spice they sent us a towel

ha ha ha like people get paid to do that shit but I'm just jumping out of the gym for it same with the socks so there is a price But yeah, what is the, what's the, what's the word to describe this thing that doesn't make sense? It's backwards. Anapherism, I think. Anaphrism. Anaphrism. It isn't an aphorism.

It's fucked up. We close with Joe Buck. Yeah, Joe Buck was awesome. I hear not surprised. A lot of people were like, oh, Joe Buck's cool. I was like, yeah, give him a fucking chance. Yeah, I think that's turned around. I think the majority likes Joe these days was coming to us from Cabo.

Oh, he was in Cabo? Got a place in Cabo. Yeah, he's living the life, man. Now, when he goes to Minnesota on Thursday night, you think, is Fox into that plane? Can I say something? Is that a wheels-up situation? I hope it's a wheels-up, at least situation for that guy

because he's worth it. You can't fly scheduled. No. Hey, Pat's two buys remaining if they keep winning because they're going to have one week 14, which if you're a New England Patriot, it kind of sucks because it's a physical place to play. Like, they play a physical scheme.

You might look up week eight and be like, damn I need a break. Mine's not until week 14 and the thing about their by week is like they're really scrimmaging in their by week. So their buy week, I'd almost rather have a regular week than a buy week. But they get good work out of it. They continue to win. They're going to get the first round by which is so

important to Bill. So important. Like it sounds obvious. He understands the magnitude of it, especially in a sport where now like there's only one team that gets this great advantage over the other 56 of them. Got to watch the Nickelodeon game this year. Bears are going to

slide in and play somebody like the Saints again. One, two, three teams also with four losses and the pets have bills, at Colts, home bills, and then tricky for them at Dolphins to close it out. Very tricky because the dolphins, if you haven't heard,

that's becoming the quickest. Like, nobody's talking about it, but like everybody's talking about it ever since we've dogged on the Miami Herald for writing that we could get in the playoffs article, they've just, they've gone scorched earth. The pets also have Jacksonville the second to last week. who might be trying to lose for draft position at that point.

And by the way, they're not already. And you mentioned rookie of the year earlier. The Miami Herald had an article today very strongly extolling Jalen Waddle in his play this year. Well, they should extol it, and they're going to have to extol it pretty loudly for people to hear about it because some people didn't even know they were playing ball. And B-Flow is coached his ass off,

trying to get him over the finish line, and Tua's playing well. Finns are going to go to eight and seven. That's my bold December take. Okay, good. That's a good. That'll be seven in a row. I got two bold predictions for December. One is, it's not changing.

It's not going to surprise anybody here. The Ravens aren't making the playoffs. So that's not changing. They're too hurt, injury report. They're on tour. And then the Colts are going to beat the Patriots week 15. That's my second one. Now, I don't think that's necessarily a hot take, but if I gloat about that,

everybody's going to say, we knew the Colts were good. And I'm like, why do you make fun of me every time I tweet about them then? So welcome to the Colts being good. Which are two week out line on that one? I'm going to put it, where is that game? Indy. And Indy. I'll go Colts. If I was setting the line, like what do I think?

What I think would be right? Colts by two and a half. And what will Vegas do? Vegas is going to make it a pickum or Patriots by a point a half. Oh. Huh. Bet the Colts. See, I think Vegas will do the full three.

Colts by three? You think Colts by three? Just with the, I think Vegas things. depends on what Indy does this week, but yeah. Indy was like an 11-point favorite to beat the Texans and won by 40. I mean, they've been covering spreads. Oh, Colts are off this week too. So both coming off a by.

Coming off a by. Frank Reich off a buy. I think you're right. I think it's two and a half. Two and a half. And if it's not two and a half, I think it's three rather than two. I got the Colts. Well, don't tell Kyle Van Nuoy who's coming on the show.

I got the Patriots maybe going to the Super Bowl, but the Colts should scare those guys a little bit. And I'll ask him about the Colts, maybe. Bullet and board material. Belichick threw the ball three times last night. Brady threw the ball 15 on his first drive this week. I want to know what Brady's thinking as he watches that game last night. That would be a major fly on the wall situation.

I think earlier in the season it was funny to have Brady come on, but he would never come on and talk about the Patriots in real time. If Brady's still there, it's this year, it's that game. How many times is the ball thrown for the pets? 14? Yeah. I just, I think it was partially trust.

You see they could be done, but the first reception to Johnny Smith was an adventure. In 2008, there was similar conditions, weather conditions, New England and Buffalo. Brady threw the ball eight times. The Patriots were in the ball 47 times. Golly. It was 2008. Belichick said it was worse in 2008. He was worse in 2008?

Yeah. And then one more thing from that Shield Capadilla article. and the athletic, an interesting little bit on Gronk, and this is a quote, but with Gronk on the field, they're 12.2 EPA per 100 snaps, which I guess is ridiculous. I don't really understand EPA.

I expected points at it, I get it. But like I'm not going to act like some expert here. They're the best offense in the league when Gronk's on the field right now, and we're talking about the Bucks here, which is just incredible. Without him, they're 4.8 EPA. So to translate that, we tried.

difficult too we tried but 4.8's roughly the fifth best offense in the league right so not only is there a ledge there but after that fifth best offense I think there's another ledge like between how great the bucks are with versus without and then everybody else it's incredible they're on another level

it is incredible gronk this is a case for gronk being one of the most valuable players in the league relative to a team success that's relevant and he's doing it and sat on the couch for a year. As you said, Buck's home for bills this coming week, 4 o'clock. All right, so you got some real estate stuff to do.

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Like a Seth Wickersham. article. It was really good though. Thank you. Yeah, you deserve it. You deserve the praise, bro. You're the man. Thank you. Thank you for your kind words. Yeah, and the problem. I didn't want to, I was more nervous talking about you than Buddha Baker, bro. It's. You see what I said about you?

What? Like not shitty. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was, I can get that far. Oh, there were some very kind words. Oh, they. From the, the right chair to the left. Here. No, yeah. You, you, you, you did the, you downplayed your, which, I know, I know, I know. No, not about me. No, you downplayed your role on the podcast.

Oh, I don't. You have a huge role on the podcast. You don't work very hard on it, but you have a huge role. Thanks. Working hard on the real estate. So get to that. Okay. Y'all be well.

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1-800-889 9789 My friend has gone to sell real estate Kyle Van Nuoy One of the most versatile players in the league You know I'm from the Patriots Number 53 He's another one of my buddies

And I'm gonna call him We'll talk about the game last night And I just can't say enough about this guy He's so versatile To fit in that defense is really impressive And he's almost like a perfect patriot Left came back You know it's love when you leave and come back

And he's also a great guy off the field doing stuff with foster kids in Boston. We can include a link to his foundation here. Can we do that, Cowboy, on the podcast? So check out the work that he does off the field and you see the work he does on the field because he's always around the ball. Kyle Van Hoy.

I got one of my favorites, man. Kyle Van Nuoy, he's back in New England again and he's like, he's just bawling out, man. He's got a nose for the ball. Up there with anybody ever played with or have seen play. Kyle Van Nuoy, how are you today, man? You thawing out from that game last night? night, dude? Yeah, my face is finally back to normal after the wind piercing it all night.

Oh my God, dude. I saw the fucking, they kicked the first kickoff. The fucking ball went into the stands, bro. I know. They were cheering. It was kind of funny. I was on the sideline. I'm like, what the hell are they cheering at? And you felt like it was, you were in Mexico again, because in Mexico, the biggest cheers come off the kicks. Oh, nice. Yeah. Yeah, you thought you were watching a soccer game? Yeah, they got excited about the kick because it almost went into the field goal. They got confused down there in Mexico because they thought they were watching soccer. That's so good. That's the one thing I took away from Mexico, or two things.

I took away when we play there, how elite they were with their national anthem. They get super hyped. It's sick. It was very impressive. Everybody sings. Everybody's standing up, going crazy. And then two is when the kickoffs come, it's the loudest. it is in the stadium, man, when a field goal is made.

It's elite. Looks like soccer. Yeah, here we go. But they do the same thing in Buffalo. That's crazy. But dude, I was like, we were talking about this earlier. We give out an award on every week and we give a team a best plane ride and a worst plane ride. It usually has to do with like how they played and how shitty the flight probably was home

or how fun it was because we've been on some fun ones, you and me. But I figured last night I gave you guys worst plane ride. first team to ever get worse plane ride after a win. I don't know if you remember. I don't love flying. I would not have gotten on that flight last night. Yeah. It was something that we didn't think about

until we were in the air. And then when you're in the air, you're kind of like, you know, start thinking about the wind again. But then I would say it was the worst plane ride because of the way down. You're going a little fast with that wind. And they're like,

all right, we're landing, you know, in 20 minutes and then five minutes later, it's like, all right, breaks yourself. There's nothing gradual about that descent, huh? No, nothing gradual with the descent. You know, I like to have the window open when I land. I don't like having it closed. I like to see what we're doing. So I had mine open. And so I can tell we're going fast and we're coming in.

We're coming in hot. bro i know coming at you here slate we're coming in hot yeah i know coming in hot and sure enough i'm bracing myself and we land the plane and everybody's clapping yeah at like 3 30 at the morning when we landed you would have thought we had a party everybody's clapping bro dude you know when you clap when you land on a team playing that the the ride was fucked up or there was a huge delay like i try to explain to people on here that i was like not only they probably on a turbulent flight, but you don't get back to late. And I always feel like if you get done early with the football game, they make the flight late.

The equipment's behind or something. It was, bro, because I'm throwing Slade under the bus. He was taken forever. Slate was taken a long time, huh? He made us wait an hour after the game. What? What was he doing? Who knows?

What was he doing, dude? Who knows? Slate, he wore a three-piece suit. Oh, that's what it was. He was pretty hype coming off. on the plane, hurry on the bus. Like, he just got done speaking to a, you know, he's just having a reverend. Yeah, he's a pastor.

He was getting his pastor on, man. Slate's the man. If there's anybody I wouldn't get mad at for making a slate home, it might be slate. And no one was mad. That's fun. And no one was bad. I always tell people probably like the number one teammate that I would, if I had to scram for like a week and here are my kids.

Like, I'd probably give him the slate first. For sure, 100%. For sure. out to sleep. He's a good dude. He's a great man. So like a night like last night, do you know that the offense is going to go in there and throw the ball three times? You knew, like if I had to, if before the game you had to say how many throws you were guessing y'all made, what do you think it was going to be? Honestly, it shocks me, Chris. I was tripping there like tapping high like, what? Are we watching? Are you seeing this? I couldn't believe it.

But I think as the game went on, you started to like, all right, like, this is going to work. This formula is going to work because they, you know, they had a couple stops, but ultimately the clock was getting ran. And I said this earlier when I was talking to someone was that eight points right in the beginning was a game changer. Because it put the eight points is a lot in a game like that when it's that windy. And you put the pressure on them that, If they score, they have to avenge, they got to go for two. And they chose not to, which was a little surprising.

But that's just a lot of pressure right off the bat. And I was shocked like everybody else was that we only threw the ball three times. I was saying this early in the podcast, exactly what you said. And just that, you know, that Damien Harris run early, which the guards played great. I was talking up the guards. Those guys, Shaq, Teddy, like, they were just, they were great, man. and really instrumental in a lot of those outside runs. But part of the reason you just run the ball over and over again,

a lot of people were like, well, it's not an impressive game plan, but it's not yards per carry. It's the fact that you have to be perfect for an entire game, tackling and taking angles. And if you take one bad angle or one bad tackle, now you're down a touchdown in a game where the wind's blowing 60 miles an hour. And you can play games on your terms. And it's not that y'all can't throw the ball around the yard.

I've seen you do it, but it's whatever it takes to win that. week. Yep, whatever it takes. And that's what we did. I think, too, is how he game planned the win too, because people didn't realize that the third quarter, Buffalo was trying to do hurry up because they had the wind. So they felt a little pressure to score in the third quarter because they had the wind because they knew they were going to go in the fourth quarter against the win. That's incredible. The game, bro. Isn't it incredible? Like, It's crazy. We go out on the field, we're like, fuck, it's windy.

And all the coaches are like, oh, what quarter are we running and hurry up? Because we have the win. Like, come on. Now, this was the game. You had to know which direction you were kicking as a captain. Usually when I used to go out there, I was like, coach, just tell me literally what to say. I could fuck this up. So, hey, I did.

I did it last year with the dolphin. What'd you do? I did it. I deferred, but I picked a wrong. way to kick and they were cool about it because they like they switched it they got it switched you're probably looking at the schedule coming up and it's going to be a pretty big game against the dolphins you probably can't 100% them too though because they're gonna be trying to you know that's what I'm saying they're going on a

little run so they have a chance to make the playoffs so yeah it's gonna be a big game for both of us and I'm excited for that one just because how the first game went feels like a lifetime especially after you know having my injury and spending night in the hospital that was what was the injury I had a throat in my throat you had a throat in your throat hey what okay so so what happened you somebody like punched you in the throat accidentally which is a panic inducing thing but that makes you panic i don't want to say it because you know oh linemen are going to do it but you know how annoying it is you You know what I mean? It's so annoying.

That's all they used to do in 2008. Just punch you right in the face mask where I got the league. Everybody was a puncher. They still do it. They still do it. They still like hit you in the like the face mask to slow you down. It drives me nuts. And they get away with it. I was going to ask you about something last night and then, you know, like

tackling Josh Allen. He's a guy. He's a division rival. You've sacked him. You've hit him. I ran over him by him. Yeah, you got run over by him. I forgot about that.

I wasn't even going to say that. But there's no. There's no shame in it because it's almost worse than tackling a tight end. Like tight ends, they're in a predictable area of the field. You're probably closing, you're going top down on a tight end. Like tackling Josh Allen, he's more athletic than a tight end. And he's just as big. And he's a quarterback.

And he's got the whole field. That's where you're thinking about the rules. Like, that's what I, like, you got to treat him like a running back when he, like he's the own, like him and Lamar. Like, you got to treat him like running backs when they're in the field. but like Lamar's a whole different in Kyle Murray put them in a whole different category but just

quarterbacks especially you see the college kid he opened up a whole can you brought it up I was gonna I know he he brought up a whole can of worms doing that fake slide like yeah cool play great play but you're gonna like that you just brought a lot

hits for quarterbacks just because it's it's almost disrespectful because you're taught as a player oh if you hit hit him while he's sliding you're going to get fine for that any like if it's even close so like that that was a whole crazy but with josh allen he's very tough because he's fast he's physical he has a little some juke moves but then he can slide yeah he's smart that's tough yeah and when you're on the sideline when they're doing that tippy toe like he could cut back on

you he could jump he could jump and try to get the first down on third and one yeah i do so so i'm not even going to because that's that's a referee thing i'm to leave that up to them um talk to me about mac jones and not being on the phone all week Peyton manning said last night in the broadcast that mac jones on the manning cast that mac jones he had texted mac jones because he wanted to do a piece with mac and mac didn't get back to him until friday and he thought he was ghosting him but mac said that he does not look at his phone Monday through Friday. 100%.

That is Mac Jones. I'm not even shocked. Buddy, buddies, like Chris, well, I tell you buddy loves football and he's like, he's a patriot.

That is him, so good, dude. I love this kid. Yeah, I love him too. Like, he's good. He's really good.

I've been impressed for being 23 to handle the things he's handled, to be respectful, to, you know get the teammates all like he's cool with all the teammates vets younger guys and just you know it's impressive you can see it to do that's a tough locker room too because you guys you guys know what greatness looks like you know you know what attention to detail looks like you know what it looks like to to cut corners and and to be green and this kid has come across like this kid has come across like

a veteran at least from the outside of it and i wonder if there was one moment during the year that he won everybody over. I'm sure these things happen gradually, but a lot of times you win one big game, you go perform in a tough spot, you make a play that people are like, yeah, okay, we trust this guy. Yeah. What's been

impressive, I would say with Mac is it was, and I don't want this to sound bad or anything, but when Cam was out for that week and it was like the day before we went against the Giants, he, he

was bawling against us. Yeah. And it was like, oh, dude, this dude, this dude is good. Yeah. And his development, the way he wants to work and how attention to detail, like you said, just a moment ago is impressive. And he's only going to get better.

The more he sees it, he's like, I saw it. Like, I can diagnose it again. I'm good. The more he can see reps, the better he's going to be. It's going to be impressive to watch, and I'm very, very happy. I'm on his team. That's great.

That's a ringing endorsement, man. You hear that? I can tell the way he loves this guy. This is awesome. I want to play with a quarterback like this is awesome. Hey, Judon, man. I knew he could rush. I feel like some people didn't really pay enough attention to him for some reason in Baltimore.

What I like about it. I'll tell you why they didn't. Why do you think that is? He didn't play as much. Yeah. If you go back and see how much he played. In Baltimore, they rotate their edge rushers a lot. Yeah.

And here he's played, you know how that is. My producer laughed because I'm just like, I always ran about this shit. Like rotation is good to keep people fresh, but you needed to get in a rhythm as a rush. Yes, I'm the same way. Like, I can't stand like, it's hard for me to like go in and out and in and out, it drives me nuts.

But you gotta do what you gotta do sometimes. But you as a past, especially pass rushing, you need to get in a rhythm. It's like a pitcher. You need to figure out, like, for me, example, I'll give you an example last night, going against the rookie Spencer Long. He's a big kid. He was yelling at somebody one week earlier in the season. They had this still shot of him.

He was a whole, like, torso above this little running. Yeah. This little DB. He's a big dude. And so I was started on the stab progression, and he knocked me down. So I was like he knocked it down one time and so I was like all right Later on in the game I flashed it and faked him. It was the one where Josh Allen scrambled out with the penalty flag, but I should have sacked him. I remember

It was just like that if I didn't get those reps earlier in the game I wouldn't have been able to do that So I totally know what you're saying. Yeah and and and for somebody who has different tools in the toolbox Like we all agree as rushers like somebody like Judon can really set things up the way you just talked about setting things up. The one thing I was surprised about is that dude, he gets carte blanche to run the hoop at 9, 10 yards, doesn't he? No comment, buddy. Hey, if you go in double digits, you know how it is.

I know. Man, I want to rush one time in preseason at like 7 and Matt. Patricia kept me after and he was like, Chris, we got to talk about this. I was like, well, I won the, I won the one that he's like, and Van Hoy and the guys are like, Chris. Just walk with it. It's a different kind of thing. Level with the quarterback.

But this guy really has done great all year long. What do you think is the key to his success as a player? Like is it his bend? Is it his power? Is he stronger than we think, like watching him on TV? Like, what is it? That's a good question. I think it's a little bit of everything.

I think it's a little bit of he's bigger than you think he is. Yeah. Like when I met him, I was like, oh, this dude, like, he big, he big, he, he big boy. Yeah, he's like a down lineman almost. Like he can play D-N. For sure, 100%. He's also fast, which people don't really see.

But then he has a great knack of like, when, when O. Lyman, how they set, how he reacts off how different linemen set. Yeah. He is able to use. his strength moves with against that. And I think he doesn't quit. And I think that's always key as a pass rusher is, you know, he might lose a couple,

but he's going to keep working. And eventually he's going to crack the code. It's like, you know, giving Tom as many chances that, you know, you play with him. It's like giving Tom Brady the ball a bunch of times. Eventually he's going to score.

It's just a matter of like giving them opportunities. Absolutely. And he's getting them. and he's up there around 12 or 13 sacks right now. So my dude is getting buckets, man. And you are one of the most complete players in the league because if you look at PBU percentage and coverage and some of the things at second level,

like you do little things that I always pick up on that obviously I've sat in a meeting. But a couple weeks ago, you knocked down a crossing tight end on like a boot look and then you make a sack. And people don't realize it's not just the finishing on the ball that you do so well, but it's also that you bought yourself time by taking away the primary receiver.

Something that might not be apparent to other guys, but for you, it's basic stuff, and you're really good at doing all the little things. Is there somebody in practice, when it comes to coverage especially, that has made you better? Like going in seven-on-seven, do you kind of try to get going against a certain back

or a tight end that you've got a good groove with? That's good. I think it's got to be James White over my career. Going against him, you're going to get routed up. It is what it is. He's arguably the best past catcher out of the backfield. I would say going against him for years and years has gotten me better for sure.

And, you know, kudos to his career. Unfortunately, he got hurt, which sucks. Would love to have James because he's a really good player. But I would definitely say years and years going one-on-one against him has gotten me better over the years. Yeah, that was definitely, if you had to pick one guy that's synonymous with just routing people up out of the backfield in New England, he's got to be up there. And I'm going to tell you a good story about him. He was routing us up one day. Bill, you know, it was me, who was it was me, I think, hi, Jamie, a couple other people.

And he was killing us. and you know how Bill get sometimes where he's like keep killing him James hey he was killing him James and we're like looking out like shut up I need that on like a soundboard here at the studio keep killing him James

I was telling the story about this earlier and this will confirm it who always won out of all the alignment who usually won who did Bill want to win the races up the hill you know that hill do you still race up that hill? Oh my God. Who does Bill love when they win the race out of the O-Lyman? Right now?

I remember my year was Shaq. I feel like it used to be Shaq and Toonie. Shack by a nose. Yeah. Yeah. Who's winning them now? Who's winning those races now? What if I said Trent?

I would be like he must be the best athlete of all time, bro. Dude, Trent's ballad. Did you see some of the blocks he had last night? Man, come on. I saw some of the blocks he had against Cleveland. and I was like, man, they're going to be running the ball this game. That whole right side of the line early in that game was just caving people in, dude. Speaking of physical football, you have you got a bi-week coming up.

And if there's, if anybody. So you say hallelujah. I was telling the guys earlier in New England, they really work in their bi-week. So I kind of feel like, give me a shot of Torval. Let me go play a game on Sunday over a bye-week. bro, it's changed. Oh, you guys are hanging out on buy weeks? Hey, we're, we might be big chilling this week.

Jeez, Louise, dude. So I was going to say, when you look at the schedule and you see that buy, what do you think? Well, this year is different, though, Chris, just because we played Monday night so they don't have an extra day. So we had to have, you have to have today off because of the CBA rules. I like that. And then you have to have the four days off on the weekend. and that's mandatory. So it kind of, there's one day, you know, there's only one day and you can't really,

can't really practice, right? No. We'll find out if we're practicing. I don't know yet. Oh my God, dude. It's a mystery box. Hey, Reed, I'm out. I'm going back.

I'm going back. I'm going back. I'm getting on, I'm getting in the transfer portal right now. I'm going back because they're not going to be wild. By weeks are seriously a break now, dude. So he's on his by week. I want you to enjoy that. It's a cushy-ass buy week nowadays these guys get.

And I want you to finish strong, buddy. I was so excited to see you back in a patch uniform. I know it probably feels like a really cool reunion, but even for a guy watching you on TV, it's just such a perfect fit, dude. It's just a perfect fit, dude. I appreciate it. And come back again, go win a Super Bowl, dude.

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You punched the ball out. It doesn't matter. Hey, Sam.wis, how about that? You sent in a mailbag, you asked. Sam asked, why is Matthew Judon so much more productive on the Patriots than the Ravens? We got it answered. We do this, bro. So thank you, Sam. And thank you to everybody who sent in mailbag questions. I'm going to go on vacay soon. And I want to do a little extra mailbag. It makes things easier around here. So thank you. We want to give a shout out to Kai for submitting 40. 47 mailbag questions. Today? 47. 47.

You counted them? Yep. Kai, bro. One less Americano. You know, he's Kai. Guy's brain, his synapses are firing. They were coming in like six in a row, then eight in a row. Let me answer one of Ka's then.

Fuck it. What's your favorite munchy food? Favorite munchy food? Last night, it was my sister-in-law made these like burnt sugar gram crackers covered with chocolate and marshmallow drops. The marshmallow drops are really what make the whole thing. Yeah, but popcorn will do, you know. When I was younger, this is when I had metabolism that was functioning.

Right now, everybody in the metabolism department is like out to lunch or they're like working from home. My metabolism is not what it once was. in St. Louis my first two years that food was chunky soup with it was New England clam chowder and it was an entire bag of goldfish

crushed up in there so that's what really gets you the chunky soup in and of itself is creamy calorie filled there's enough sodium in there to fuel an entire football team but when you put the bag of goldfish on top and you double up when I was 280 pounds

I could double up on that thing. I'd do two things of Campbell's, two bags of goldfish. There's no chance I could do that anymore. I used to eat ramen raw, but that was in college when you just needed a grab and go. That wasn't really Munchy's food. Kai also asked, what's the worst penalty you did on purpose? Man, that's a really good question. I didn't get flagged for it, but I told you about the guy that tried to take my knees out.

There was a kid in high school, tried to take my knees out. Their coach told him to high-low me, which is like an objectively dirty play. And by the way, I looked more at the play in Vegas. I still don't think it's dirty. Avoidable would be, yeah, that would be a good word, avoidable. But who knows? Maybe he didn't know where the ball was. Maybe he's not very aware in the run game.

Pass rushing kind of guy. The guy in high school tried to take my knees out, so I waited until we had an extra point, and I just fucking Johnny Cage, uppercut, right into his nuts, dude, acted like I was throwing a full-on rip. I think I got away with it. I got away with it. That's the most intentionally dirty thing I've done in a football field that I'm willing to share.

Penalties? Yeah, I mean, like, I got ejected because I punched a guy on the Panthers. Penalties? Yeah, I mean, like, I got ejected because I punched a guy on the Panthers. I knew I did it on purpose. You don't do that accidentally.

You're not thinking straight, but you do it on purpose. Got ejected because I headbutted a guy and said. but that was such a weak ejection. A headbut we've been doing that for 40 plays dude. When I punch a guy in the face that's not a football play. I was just

it was a football play. I headbutted him just during the TV timeout. We had helmets on just like the game. All right. We'll end with one more that's not football related. Reynolds 47 asks if peeing in the shower is okay.

Man this is going to cause some controversy. I want everybody on set to raise their hand if they pee in the shower in three, two, one. Three for three right now. Taylor's downstairs. That is a pissing in the shower looking dude. Your home shower, your own shower.

Yeah, my home shower. Yeah, aim for the drain, dude. Yeah, just aim for the drain. That's all anybody asks. Aim for the drain. Are there really people out there that don't pee in the shower? Macon.

Oh, Macon. Yeah, come on. Yeah, I pee in the shower. Y'all take care. Hey y'all, we want you guys to interact with us more on on social media here. Let me not sound like a fucking cop talking about this. We want you to talk to us, you know? Like sometimes you get on there and you're like, you're like, yeah, y'all aren't talking to us.

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