Green Light with Chris Long - Lane Johnson! Ted Karras! Bill O'Brien Back in NE, Largest Hand Sizes Among NFL QBs & Naked & Afraid!

Episode Date: January 25, 2023

(2:16) - Naked and Afraid, Mac Jones Gets an Offensive Coordinator, Largest Hand Size of NFL QBs & Magneto as the X-Men's True Villain. (29:12) - Lane Johnson on the Eagles Win Over the New York Giants, Jalen Hurts' Leadership, Nick Sirianni's Pizza Choices & Matchups with the 49ers Pass Rushers. (52:12) - Ted Karras on the Bengals Win Over the Buffalo Bills, Joe Burrow's Cool Factor, Football Fandom in the City of Cincinnati & Matchups with the Chiefs Pass Rush. (1:18:23) - Mailbag: Welcome to the Playoffs Moment, SB Parade Best Practices & More! Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b   Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42   Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1   Green Light with Chris Long:   Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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You saw the title. Lane Johnson from the Philadelphia Eagles. Ted Kier's from the Cincinnati Bengals. Chris Long and Kyle Long talked to him both. A little playoffs, we get a look inside the Eagles and the Bengals locker rooms. Lane gives us a Jason Kelsey temperature gauge update. And Ted lets us in a little bit of his family's history. We have an all-time mailbag thanks to you all who submitted questions.

Chris and Kyle actually really enjoyed this one. And Chris rediscovered naked and afraid. he's going to tell you about it in just a couple minutes. Y'all enjoy. We'll have the Freak Show coming at you on Friday with some conference championship preview and maybe a recently hired GM. We also have our Thursday afternoon Amp Show 430 Eastern.

Thank you all for tuning in. Much love. Hey guys, it's National Compliment Day. And I'll just go around the room, Kyle. Let me read from my note now. We're going around the room. You're cool. Thank you.

Cool guy. Honestly, like, you know, when you were younger, you were cool, but you didn't know it. And now I think you're cool and you know it. Oh, so this is non-compliment. No, it is a compliment. No, it's a compliment. I'm saying like, the most bullshit. No, okay.

So, all right, here's how that was supposed to come out. But I was afraid you would be sensitive. I was afraid you would be sensitive. And you're right. You're cool as fuck. When you were a kid, you weren't that cool. This isn't what I was having an issue with. What was it?

I think it was the part where you said and you know it. Well, no, I, no, that, what I'm saying is I walked around like 30 miles around the best way I could say it to say it another way and I didn't say it correctly. What I meant is you're really, you're a great host. Thank you, Kyle. I can't hear today and I felt at home. Thank you. You know, I did. That's good.

We're pointing. We didn't live with each other for you. Yeah. No, you. Matt? Oh, I got one for Matt. Is it another backhanded compliment? No.

What the fuck? Candid compliment. You guys are such fucking babies. All right. Oh, it's National Complement Day. Hold on a second. That was it.

You know? Fucking baby. Kingston, you have a cool voice. You know? Yeah. Again, here we go. There was going to be a time. I said in school,

I said something about your voice. Yeah. Yeah, we were in high school. You said I had a voice that sounded like a sexual predator. At the time. That pays.

It was a little deep for everybody. It's like the guy on the phone that's like up. to no good on the other end. It's Ken Kinnif. Yeah, I got a body in the hotel. Yeah, right. Like, you know, who the fuck is it? But then, like, as an adult, it's a cool ass voice. Is that another backhanded compliment? Jesus Christ. No, it's not. It's a good one. And now we got to like, read. It's okay. You are a generous, kind person with good hair. Mm-hmm. That one's just good. I mean, honestly, like, really just a good person. He's a sweetheart. He's a sweetheart. And he gets it

from his dad. I don't know anybody else in his family, but I will say his dad, same way. That's incredible. I had a great conversation with his dad about a month ago. Like, yeah, it was awesome. Clean cut, classic throwback. Just like Reed. And Reed, he's the neighbor you leave the keys with.

He'll give you the shirt off his back. Macon, you're not here right now, so you're not going to get a compliment. Just the way the cookie crumbles, honestly. I didn't plan this. Matt told me it was a national compliment day 20 seconds ago, so. I'll get it. one. He's really good at the basketball game that we have in the hallway. He beat me

yesterday at horse. He's also good at gambling on college basketball. Yeah, he is. Just need to stick to that. Yep. Backhanded compliment. That was good. See, it turned out pretty good. Okay. I want to add something to America's teams. And we are going to have to get a lot more. I don't think five teams is going to play, like, any deeper. I went first. I was just getting made fun. Kyle picked the four teams. It's just such a good bit. I remember the first day you came in and you were like new on the job and we just made up this stupid fucking

segment and you were like all right um Dallas Cowboys Alabama the US national women soccer team Alabama yeah you didn't get it but it became a funny bit and it continues great segment it's a great segment okay so in the spirit of keeping it alive I was watching naked and afraid last night as I do sometimes. Only difference was my wife had never watched it. And of course, when I'm like, let's fire it up, you're like, I pray there's no hot guy on here, right? You know, a hot.

Great ass walking around the aisle. Yeah, exactly, exactly. There wasn't. But there was this one guy that, uh, big blur. You can't make this shit up. This guy. Yeah, I don't know. The blur is like down to the knee.

He has a birth mark they're covering. They didn't want to make. The funniest shit is when they hug when they first meet each other. It's like a big, bridge because the people is just their pelvic regions are as far away from each other as they boner hug yep they got to smell so bad that was meg's or good meg was like meg was like meg we were watching for five minutes meg was like her vagina smells terrible and she goes she goes uti right there she's just she's just got that whole thing just caked in mud it's like

it's all natural people pay a lot of money for that shit yeah people go to whole food above only fans. I think the... Do the people on naked and afraid, then I think the people on naked and afraid are missing a real opportunity to parlay it into an only fan. So what did each of them bring? Like, I know they bring one item, right? It's a great show. It's a fucking sensational show.

Michael Bennett used to tell me that one day we were going to go on it. Together. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's so funny. Because like anything else, Mike, Mike used to be like, we should do this. We should do this. We should do that.

You know, it would end two days in with me trying to kill him. Yeah. Because he just, me and him are like, it's so fun. But then there's like this expiration date where I'm like, get me out of the car. But if we were naked and afraid for two days, I'd probably end up killing him and eating him with the flint stick that I bring or something. Flint stick. Yeah, you can bring like, you know, a bow or something. This, this gal last night.

Yeah. Just walking through the swamps. They're in the Everglades with their. In Florida? Yeah, and she's just walking. She just picks up a snake and she just takes it back to her partner and they eat it. It's like these people are- I don't know.

They didn't show that. Probably just a rock to the head. Anyways, there was a guy on there that got, I thought he was being a hardo. He was like, yeah, man, I got attacked by a bear. And I was like, oh, big whoop. Wrong place, wrong time. Bear cub. You know, it's like rescuing somebody in a jet ski when they get in a helicopter crash.

Big whoop. So then I find out he was also bit by a shark. So there's a pattern here. What's the chance is that? I got bitten the head by a bear, got bit by a shark, and then goes home and gets bit by a rattlesnake. Yeah, I swear to God, you can Google this guy. And then his wife bit his dick off.

No. Bit by human. The unholy quadruple. Is that funny, Matt? He's like, he's laughing. Is that funny? Yeah, because he was going for Holy Trinity. And then he said, holy quadruple.

It's funny. I just. So yeah, shout out to that guy. America's teams, the people that go on naked and afraid. And furthermore, the people that go on alone. Because those people, and I explain that to Meg, they're absolutely another level. Because if you think about it. There's people to go alone.

Yeah, the show alone. Have you ever seen it alone? Have you seen the show alone? They're not naked because they can't fuck around. these people are out in like Labrador for 80 to 100 days alone like ultra marathoners for those people

bro they just drop you and the people are talking to themselves like day three like full conversations David Gaggins would record 100 hours of a podcast I wonder if Gagins could go on alone I'm just out here fucking cold I've done a thousand pushups the tree's about to fall over

I've done so many fucking pull-ups David Gaggagins would do well he would thrive So America's teams, anybody are alone and or naked and afraid. You asked if I had a layup line. Let's see if I have a layup line. Give me Green Onions by Vassar Clements. So this is the guy in Olden in the Way. Nice.

So Olden in the Way was like the bluegrass band that Jerry Garcia was in, basically, right? And it was like Grisman and him and like a few other sensational musicians. And I was just reading about Olden in the Way. way, I don't know why. And this cat Vassar Clements was like the father of hillbilly jazz. So like he took his fiddle and he did like jazz with the fiddle. And it sounds pretty fucking cool. So green onions, Vassar Clements.

Music news that I was going to impart, Willie Nelson's 90th birthday is coming up. So he's got a festival going on at the Hollywood Bowl. this is one of those things that you buy the plane ticket and you don't mention it to your wife, you just buy the plane ticket, right? And then figure out a good time to bring it up. That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to go.

It's in April. What's the day? April. Yeah, late April. Here are some of the people at this festival. Billy Strings. Chris Long. Beck, Bob Weir, Chris Stapleton, Snoop Dog.

Jeez. National Anthem, Super Bowl singers. Chris Stapleton. Chris Stapleton's going to do National Anthem. There'll be props for that. I can't wait. We'll be on the Friday show talking about all the props, Gatorades, the whole thing.

He'll be on the red side of the mountain in Scottsdale. Why? The red. Oh, on the red side of the mountain. Thank you. You guys stood me up on, there is no Arizona. You know, there's a throwback.

Yeah, well, so Snoop Dogg's going to be there. Neil Young's going to be there. Tyler is going to be there. Sturgle's going to be there. Chris Long will be there somewhere in the Hollywood Bowl With a bowl My wife's probably gonna learn about this

Listening to the podcast Man We are You know how like There's a there's like a dead zone Where you don't feel punts anymore Like past the 10 yard line or whatever It's like this is where Meg

There's coming up as a dead zone Where she no listens No longer listens the potty more So I want to throw this in early Just in case you're catching it babe It's late April I could be back in like two days.

Sounds like a good plan. I love you. Hollywood Bowl's classic. How many times Willie Nelson turned 90? Anyways, I'll be in Hollywood. Check me out. Guys, the off season is coming up. Today, we've got two great guests.

We've got Lane, who I played with. We've got Ted Karras, who I play with in New England. He's now in Cincinnati, and that's a key piece that they can't afford to lose. They're down to two OG linemen. He had a knee injury this weekend, but he looked fine. I'm not going to ask him. about that because, you know, like, that's the brocode. Like, you know, it's not even about that. But Ted Karras and I will talk about Joe Burrow, I'm sure, playing in the snow. I'm going to ask him

what he learned in New England that he might be able to, you know, transfer from a playoff knowledge standpoint to these guys. So stick around for that and we'll finish with some fun after that. The offseason is coming. I found an interesting article yesterday circling on Twitter. And it was the biggest quarterback hand sizes in the history of the NFL and I was like is it fucking June right now because this is the type of content that we live off of Bovada this was early I had this fucking lined up for you know a June date and you guys blew your load in January on this thing this was like I'm really curious about the numbies here I got some numbies for you okay crunch them Mark Sanchez in the top 10.

You used to live with him. How big was his hand, Kyle? We weren't shaking hands every day. You guys didn't dapp up in the morning? No, we were, I mean. Guys, you're living with a top 10 hand in NFL history at the quarterback position. And you didn't even know it. Sanchez, great hugs, great roommate, great, great teammate.

Okay. Huge hands, I guess. 10 and a half inch hands. Wow. Was that width? Yeah, it's a span. Okay. I don't know what ours are.

Mine's 11. Here's 11? Yeah. Damn. Got Jim Drunken Miller hands. I don't even know. Jim Drunken Miller has huge hands. You can fact check that on the combine,

but I think it's 11. Yeah, check my hands out too. 11. Yeah. Fucking bear paws. Kyle Long. Size. 11 inches.

I thought you. Chris Longhand size. Ten in age. What a baby had. Mark Sanchez is a bigger hand. to me? This is emasculating. I don't know if I could do this segment anymore. Who's number nine? Scott Zolak. What a Polish big-handed. Yeah. Tough guys. And he does dapp you up. Tough guy. I've dapped up Scott Zolak. Guys got a big hand. Here's another one. 10 and a half.

Look at just. Oh, we want to see if our hands have shrunk. Yeah. Scott Zolak's. Scott Zolak just looks tough as nails. Damn, my hand shrunk, dude. Yo, my hand has shrunk. Your hand didn't shrink, your pinky isn't straight. My pinky's not straight and I have a thumb injury, but Kyle, my hand is nine and a half inches wide right now. Do the other hand. That's a loss of... They did fuse your thumb on that hand, right?

They did my thumb. Do the other hand. Oh, yeah, you do the other hand. We're pushing 10. That hand strung too and that kind of hurt. Give me. Maybe you. Maybe you're cheated on the original measurement.

Yeah, yours is like 10 and, uh, almost 11. Almost 11, Kyle. The web hurts. after that stretch. Kyle, are you, I haven't stretched that hard since the combine sit and reach. You and Jim Drunken Miller are like,

don't look down. You know, you know what? It suppressed my confidence for a very long time. You're like, oh, wait, I just have huge hands.

Yeah. You get the NFL combine, you're like, oh, that explains it. Yeah. All right. So, Chris Sims,

10 and a half inches. Wow. Yeah. Thought maybe he was overcompensating for something with the Jalen narrative. he's been pushing, but no, a guy's got big hands.

We like Chris Sims. I just don't like his jail and take. All right, here's where it gets interesting, Kyle. 10 and 6. Oh, no, let me do this, the metric way. 10.63 inches, Nick Foles. Yeah.

That's it. So he's tied with Heath Shuler. So you might want to, somebody might want to check in on Heath Shuler. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Okay. I need a further investigation on aisle.

Heath. Ryan Mallet, 10.75 inch hand. Not surprising. Just a big guy. Huge. Was supposed to be the guy. Yeah. Him and Sam McGuffey. Remember Sam McGuffey? Yeah. White running back from Texas? Mm-hmm.

Ryan Fitzpatrick 10.75 inch hands. Smart guy. A little trouble loading that Polish rifle. Hand size. Brain size. With hands that big, you can propose that at McDonald's. You going for that?

Yeah. And width. You could have got like a double distance from pinky to thumb. Yeah. Brains size. All right. Kessler, 10.88. got nothing to say about Cody Kessler.

Dak Prescott, 10.88. That's why we're talking about it. And then at the biggest hands of all time, the fucking Yao Ming of hands here is Jim Drunken Miller, 11.25 inches. That's huge. Look up the biggest hands in NFL history. Is there anybody with like a 13 inch hand? There are O. Lyman with

gigantic. 11.7 5 inches. De Forest Buckner, Goster Chairless, who had a heavy punch. That makes sense. And Moe Alley Cox. Wow. Guys, is it June or is it January?

God's just holding his hand up in the air. He's, what are you, like, eyeballing your hand compared to... I'm seeing how they measure it. Yeah. Games not till Sunday. It's early in the week. You're right. There's only two fucking games.

Get used to this shit, guys. Buckle up. The off season's coming. It's like when winter's coming. Buckle up, Buttercup. In Game of Thrones. And everybody's, like, batting down the hatches. All the old women are telling stories of the kids, like,

try to leather them up. Yep. All the old ladies are doing top 10 hand span lists. They're like, they're going to eat your fucking face up. Okay, I got some real football for you before you. Before you getting Elaine Johnson. and Bill O'Brien is going to be the offensive coordinator in New England. I think this is interesting because I never heard that Matt Patricia and Joe Judge got fired.

It's like the quietest firing in the history of the NFL, or they're not getting fired probably just going to get moved. Probably just moving their offices down the hall to coach something else. It's a corporate restructuring. It's a corporate restructuring. It reinforces my narrative that guys with dimple chins are never to be trusted. But Chins, Bill O'Brien. But he comes in and your office moves.

Well, yeah, but to be fair, to my point, you know, you and the other guy who never coached it before didn't have a great year. I'm just saying. No, I know, but that's interesting. You got cut by a guy with the butt chin. Beware. You got to be careful with these guys. Yes. Bill O'Brien, butchen, Bill.

We like Bill O'Brien. There's science here. No, listen, the other day I got pissed because making cucked me on drafting the Pats in the three-year outlook draft, I think the Pats' three-year outlook's pretty good. a ton of cap space. They got cap space. They have the greatest coach in history. I mean, a lot of people like take pot shots at Bill. Welcome to the rest of the NFL. Like, now you got to do it with Mac Jones and Bailey Zappy and whoever the fuck

else, Cam Newton for a year. Like, but I think this is really good for the past. You know, I think this makes it a better destination for free agents. I think Mac Jones and him have a history. I think when he was at Bama, Bill came on in 21. I want to say. And Mack was just finishing training. So I think they really got together and did a little work and that sort of thing.

He got the Sabin internship. So he's been down at Bamma. Look at that butt chin, dude. I almost just threw my back out laughing. He's just mouth wide open. That's a fucking picture that's on the street. That thing is like a, I almost just threw out my L5.

It's like somebody put their, they didn't cut their thumbnail for. a year and just like a toddler I just stab him okay okay all right so there's a lot to like about this man I think the pads are going to be better off

for it his offense he can go pro style Willie James like a lot of what they do is going to be based upon the tight ends and you know obviously if they have anything they have tight ends tight end featured offense you get the run you get the play action you can also

go RPO you can go bubble screens you can go kind of more spread I think it depends on like, hey, if you're at Bama, you're running more spread because you got five fucking guys outside that you can trust. And up in New England at this juncture, it's a tight end-based offense. So you see more pro-stop, but they can go with some of that RPO, some of that quick stuff. You can see like what we've seen in Kansas City. A lot of the tight-end usage has been out of the spread formations.

You can put multiple tight ends on the field. You can have Noah and Travis out there. We're looking at potentially seeing Jody Ford's. I'm not sure who they've activated between him and Clyde Allaire. I'm Jody, baby. This week, but Jody Fordson's a 6-7 tight end. We're looking at potentially seeing a full, I'll call it a full house formation. I know there's another full house formation, but I'm not talking about that one.

That's a running formation. This full house, I'm talking Jody Fortson, Travis Kelsey, Noah Gray, all on the field at the same time. That could be what we're going to see. The balls out quick. You have options for bubbles because you're, you have good lead blockers. You can run the ball out of that

because you've got the edges sealed up with mismatches in terms of size. And Bill Belichick, one thing he's going to do is he's going to adapt. That's what they do well. It'll be interesting to see how the team's identity changes. Yeah, that's what they do well. So I think this is a positive,

if you're a New England fan, and at the very least, Mack Jones is going to stop and justifiably complaining in public about the offense because I think Bill is palatable for him. It's funny.

A lot of teams will connect a guy with his college coordinator and we usually think of that as like an organization that really like coddles their players. And that's not what you think of when you think of New England, but no, this is a pro player move. But it's also a pro like success move. Yeah. You needed somebody that you

trusted. I think one of the reasons that Matt and Joe were brought in to do this square peg thing with the round hole is you know, like I trust them. And you don't have to pay them as much. So yeah, famous people with butt chins, and we'll go to Lane. They call them cleft chins, Kyle, so be careful. John Travolta.

Russell Crow. So far it's tracking. Andy Dick. So far it's tracking. Ben Affleck. Fucked the whole thing up with J-Lo? Oh. No, Jennifer Garner.

No, and then he got back with J-Lo. Yeah, did the whole babysitter thing. So, yeah, butt-chin. Sir Patrick Stee. You know who that is? Professor X? Yeah. Yeah.

By the way, the other day we were talking about... You thought he was a bad guy. No, there is an old bad guy. And I figured out who the fuck it was. Not Magneto, guys. There's an old bad guy in X-Men. And it was... God damn it, it's another old white guy.

Yeah, I know who you're talking about. You know what I'm talking about. It was gray. Yeah, it wasn't... You guys just don't watch X-Men. He wears this? He wears Arabian goggles. Yeah, no, you don't have to rock saying that.

That's exactly what he's wearing. He's wearing high-tech Arabian. goggles. Who is the guy? No, that's not him. That's, that's, that's the strikingly good looking guy that got the fuck Heidi clum, caged, gender, white male.

Covered in blue ink. And tag. Wasn't that who it was in blue ink? No, it wasn't. Type in that. Who was it that was in blue in X-Men? Mystique. Yeah, well, who was the actress? Jennifer Lawrence. Jennifer Lawrence. Was it Jennifer? Which the older one? The new one. Yeah, the older one.

It was Rebecca Romaine. Oh, Rebecca Romaine. I've seen the X-Men a lot and I don't know who you're talking about. There's an, you have not seen the X-Men a lot. Clearly. Yeah, you've seen the X-Men a lot, sure. There's an old guy in X-Men.

Magneto. Who's the biggest villains? Put in X-Men villains. It's Magneto. He's the biggest villain. It's not Magneto. I know the guy that can move entire cities.

Look at that picture of all the... There's too many villains. This is a cool picture, though. Is it old Magneto? There's an old Magneto and a young Magneto. That's it. It's the old Macnito. Magneto.

You do watch X-Men. I know. You were about to be like, stop gaslighting me. No, I didn't feel that way. I felt like legitimately there was a breakdown in communication. There is, and it's confusing because in some of the movies, he's old. Well, it's because of a storyline called The Days of Futures Pass, where they go back in time and then they recycle it. Got it.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, Chris. One last movie thing. The movie Go is a great movie. It's a movie that I grew up watching. Have you guys ever seen Go? Absolutely.

And I realized over the holiday season, and I should have said this sooner, that it is a Christmas movie. Oh, right. Go is a Christmas movie. I haven't seen it. The people should decide, but I've already decided. It's a Christmas movie. It's a great movie.

Look at the cast of Go, Kyle. Yeah. Sarah Polly is actually a great actress. It's like the who's who's of Hollywood, and it's like 1999. All right. Let's get to Lane Johnson. Stick around to have fun. The best moments in a sports fan's life are in.

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What did you, how did you spend your byweek and how nerve-wracking? It's like good to have a by-week, but it's a lot of sitting around. I went to the smoke-filled tropicana hotel and casino in Atlantic City. And I watched a couple of pretty, pretty, they're pretty good comedy shows. And then we gamut a little bit on the Golden Buffalo. And I rule that. Nice. a whole lot. Nice. Are there any games you don't play at the casino? I mean, I really, I'm a really

dude like a Golden Buffalo and I'll do some roulette. I played blackjack, but other than that, I really don't go too crazy. I like the food. They have good restaurants there. It's only an hour away from here. What else you're going to, or are you going to do around here? That was a far cry from visiting me and sleeping in the yard, but. Yeah, well, Bo was already coming down. So Bo was in there. I probably just drove down. Yeah, Beau, Bow and Lane in the house. It was a good time. Bo is a good time. He asked a lot of questions.

Smart guy. He's kind of like having, it's like kind of like having another kid in the house. Just constantly, he's asking and wanting to know stuff. Yeah, exactly. Dude, I don't have all the fucking answers,

as you know. So, hey, how cool was it seeing the fans lock up those lots? I guess they couldn't get in there before four last week, and they bought a bunch of lacrosse tickets up.

Had you heard this? I did not hear this. So basically, Eagles fans they couldn't get in the lots before 4 p.m. for some reason because there was a lacrosse game or something of that nature,

which is weird that they were playing on the field? Were they playing on the field before the NFC championship? I think it was the same like facility area. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they couldn't get in the lots. So these fans bought a bunch of tickets to the lacrosse game

and never went into the game and just took over the lot. How was the atmosphere at the link the other night when you played the Giants? It was riled up for at least the first half, the second half kind of died down. But yeah, it was pretty live,

especially in the first quarter for us. It was pretty loud. Which you know how it is. I feel like it just kept amplifying the bigger the game got. So like the NFC championship game we had, like Minnesota, you remember how loud that stadium was rocking. So I don't know.

I think it all started like defense. Like they had four, three and outs. And just with the time of possession, we had pretty early in that game and able to run the ball. But, yeah, man, it was rocking. Yeah, Reddick, when Reddick beat Neil for a sack and then on fourth down,

they go for it on fourth and eight, and they're down seven nothing. I think we were talking about on this show was like, I think Daible realized, you know, how good you guys were playing and what it was going to take to keep pace. But I just felt like it got so damn loud after that fourth down. It was one of the loudest I'd heard the stadium all season. How about you, like nerves, man. Like, I know you've been through a lot with your mental health and like, you know, you used to tell me about how nervous you get before the game.

Sometimes I'd walk in and see you doing your business. And I'd be like, oh, never mind. I'm going to go. I'll check back later. He's transforming. Yeah, he's transforming. How's it been? Like, you've been deep in the playoffs.

Like, is there a difference for you from a nerve standpoint? And then how do you impart wisdom onto the younger guys? Well, the injury kind of massed, like the nerves now. Like, usually I get nervous for a game. And now my whole focus is just one play at a time, just making it. sure my stuff isn't feeling too bad. Like I was really nervous the last game. I was just nervous to go out there and really sit on the bull rush because I got

practiced. Like the first time I went full speed was Wednesday, did individual. Thursday was like half reps. And then Friday I did the whole practice. But I never really got just like bullrust ran down the middle. So my thing was how am I going to absorb that force? And I felt like whatever healed up in like a month like re-ripped or like re-stretched out again. and then after that, I felt a lot better,

especially second quarter through the end of the game. Yeah, you might be breaking up scar tissue or something like that. Yeah, that's what I felt like. But yeah, just a weird feeling going into a game. Yeah, but whatever you take away, if I got a hold of somebody, I'm like, damn it, if I'm letting go. Now, Lane, take me into practice.

When you're figuring out how to sit on the bull, you do indie and it feels pretty good. And you're like, all right, I got, you know, seven of the 10 reps for you and team. And then you go out there. Are you having a conversation with the guys across the ball? Are you saying, hey, give me stuff, but don't come down the middle? No.

I mean, the first really full practice I did was Friday. So that's really, I don't know if guys are underwear. Yield back a little bit. Yeah, but really, nobody really ran down the middle too hard. Just because we didn't have any pads on. And I don't know, Toronto them usually work ahead or the guys I'm going against. but I don't know. You could have used Stephen Means.

Dude, no. I mean, I would have made it the game. No way to make the game. He was Stephen Means was one of the best practice players of all time. A lot of bull rushes. A lot of bull rushes, big old head. I mean, he was a big dude, too. He was like 6, 6, 4, 6, 5, 275 dreads.

Like Stephen Jackson, just 6.5. Yeah. There would be some days where I'd be like, hey, Khalil Mack, don't bounce around even in the mock game because I don't want to pull something. So I can't just go slow. Exactly. Well, I know exactly when for you, Lane, and maybe you'll remember this play.

I'm sure you will. But I was watching the game and you looked good. And I was like, okay, he's holding up. And then Dexter Lawrence lined up out in a five. And I was like, okay, here comes the bull. And he came right down the middle of you, man. Do you remember the play I'm talking about? And you actually held up and anchored.

So what's you got to do? Those big guys, it's like you got to punch them and then and then retreats. So slow him down a little bit and then retreats said to just sit there and letting him go to the head of steam. And, yeah, oh yeah, I remember I just felt like a damn stegosaurus moved outside of him. You see how big that dude's size are? It was crazy watching him take over. He was taking over the Minnesota game. And I know you guys are watching the same film.

I'm watching the last. Yeah, they put that center in the bad. position. I feel like a few plays. That's tough. Hey man, it's, I mean, it is two totally different games. Tackles more in space, but those guards, what they got to deal with, you got to be strong. It is a different, different type of violence inside. What'd you think of the, what'd you think of the edge rushes out there for the Giants? You got to block Tibado a good bit. Yeah, I thought Tibado was like really big on like the cadence, the snap count. So I felt like whenever we played there, he's very good to read reading like the head bob or whatever you know the cadence that we use and timing it so he would get a good jump and so anytime you have a guy doing that it can make a tackle turn real quick and you know he can he has a better chance of beating you whereas you know i'm getting a jump on the count or timing uh at home um yeah they had him ojallari uh dexter and then that was really it uh yeah after after the first quarter after the first two drives i was

I was good. I was just really nervous. It was first and how I was going to respond after. Like I felt some pain or whatever, but it eventually wore off. It felt like. Did you call Cam Jordan? Did I hear that?

Because he had the same injury to ask him about how to kind of navigate through it. Yeah. Hold on. Let me read the message. Okay. So Brian, the guy that runs by Twitter and Instagram, I guess he had,

what was funny, we had, so Grant Calcutera was drafted to our team. and I guess Brian was messing him all offseason or whatever, come hang or whatever, and then we get to the locker room, and I just walked to my locker. I guess he tried to dab me up. I didn't know who it was. I've been talking.

You got a social media assistant. Yeah, who he doesn't, he can't identify in a lineup. He's got a whole staff. I'm just over here DM in Lane's assistant. Yep, pretty much. He said, hey, bro, Cesar Ruiz was talking about me about your ad, Dr. Bintorne. said it's going to hurt every step. I told him core shorts in Advil, but that's

because I don't take Torr doll. He said, good luck on anchoring that shit. I'm going to hurt every time. Yo, Cam Jordan doesn't take Toral. He's been through everything he's been through. All those bull rushes. He's 30-something years old. He's got 100 career sacks, and he never took tort all. What? Just one game because of

an eye. Bro, I don't know if I'd be able to play. Was it true that he went to Japan to train with the sumo guys? I don't doubt it one bit. I already did that. Don't doubt it at all. What is what's the pain? What's the pain like to describe to a regular person how the pain of a torn adductor feels like the first week? The first week like getting up out of the couch, getting up out of a chair, like it really hurts. I mean, it's like you're growing, but it's also like your pubic region. So like right there under your belly button, it's like you got it, you have a mife in you. And then after this, that once that loosens up.

What I started doing, it just like stretching my leg out to, like, I guess, where it was injured at and then just, like, holding it. So, like, when you do, like, rehab, so stretch it in those enrages. Yeah. But I don't know. Hey, you're going to have to work it out somehow. C.J. Gardner Johnson, he got his car stolen after the game. Do you have any updates?

Did not know that. Is that true? Yeah. You didn't know that? Did not know that. See, these guys are. locked in. They're not even like guys are getting their car stolen. They're just, they're not even going to work. You want to learn it on TikTok how to break into these Kia. I guess they stole his Kia. They stole his Kia?

They stole his Kia. All you need is a flathead and a Kia. Is that it? You got yourself wheels. Yeah. They find out who did it? No. No, I was just going to ask you. Well, I remember going to my truck after the game and there was a couple guys by the car that I haven't seen before and I was like, we're by my truck.

And I was like, didn't say they're wrong. went to the family room, but I don't know, needed to do some investigations. Wait, there were guys by your truck that you didn't recognize? And they're alive still. I thought it may have been like some of the security because there is people by the gate and they're moving stuff. Like, at the game, like loading the trucks up. Yeah.

Yeah, not good. There's usually no mysterious faces in the park. It's usually people you recognize. No, I think Gardner Johnson got his car stolen away from the premises. But Lane might have a lead on the car thieves. last last question on on on on on on on on your team and over the weekend like devonte smith he comes suited and booted to every home game i think he does for the way games too is he the best dressed guy in the locker room yeah probably yeah he and jalen can dress up de monte dresses up like

an old boot like an old bootlegger that's good he's uh man he's fine he's fine he's fine Yeah, probably him and Jalen. Yeah. Trying to anybody else. Gardner sometimes he'll rock it out, kind of his own style. Who I could tell him. Kelsey? Yeah.

Dude, Kelsey gets to wear those ugly ass 5.04, new balance, whatever, the old dad choose. You'll be there. He wears, like, I'm terribly dressed person, but he dresses like shit. Yeah, he does. Intentionally. Yeah, intentionally. How about the old one-handed pancake, the one-hand pancake,

we saw from cuts the hip toss. What was the reaction in the room when you guys saw that one? We didn't even, we haven't even watched it yet. We'll know tomorrow. I guess it is Tuesday. Yeah, well, it is Tuesday. And, you know, like honestly, whenever that happens, I'm like a, I'm like a D-line lawyer. Immediately, I'm like, where did it is?

He definitely got his foot tangled up. Because usually, you know, a guy will get pan-cared. I mean, how do you get the big guy to move is by crossing their feet? So I guarantee you he caught him just right when that foot was planted and or in the air and caught him. Yeah. He played rod him. But he didn't trip upon further examination.

I can't take this case. No, he just got that right hand up under his left arm. And hit him with the old, you know, the, the Jay Glazer. Yeah, the Jay Glazer. He hit him with that tie bow. You're going to break the wrist and you can't have. Hit him with that Vern Troyer. That's fucked up.

Hey, I wanted to ask you about. the speed of this Niners defense. Is there anything different you guys are doing to prepare as an offensive line? Are you guys communicating with the OC about some of the stuff you like versus these guys? What's the deal? Yeah, I'm going to say, hey, coach, I'm kind of compromised, won't you help me out every now and then? That's my line, Lane. All right, hey, over here.

Yeah, I mean, just the guys they have all across the board, like Ken Law is really good in their own game. then they have both so obviously Armstead. Armstead so long, he's like DeForest Buckner. Yeah. Pretty similar body type. But yeah, man, Nick, so he plays so low and then he's so good with his hands. So, like, I thought him and his brother are both really good

working hands, so you've got to be careful with him. Yeah, man, this is him, and then the lineback and core, they're just balanced. Their whole team's balanced. They've got a really talented team. So, I mean, it's going to be a good one. And Fred Warner runs like a DB. I saw him.

Yeah, I didn't know he's that fast, but I saw him turn that one. I guess they ran like that post. That was impressive. That's a combination of a guy knowing exactly where to be and how to get there. Exactly. Exactly. A lot of linebackers know that's where they're supposed to be. But not many can get there.

And then Nick Bosa, you talk about Nick Bosa. When I think about Nick Bosa, you think about the levers, the strength, but also very good at the top of the rush with his hips. Yeah, he knows how to work, very good angles. And then, you know, what they also do, too, is like sometimes you're running an inside zone to them, and they'll loop the end and then spike the, or rush the three, and then looped in inside, like an ox stunt. You know, it's a guard's creating separation between the tackle is going to get picked that way. So, you know, on top of being good, they're very savvy with what they do, too.

So, that's why they're at where they're at. And then you Fonger can show up out of nowhere. Like, you probably put your head down to do, you. You know, if you're on the road, you put your head down to do a silent count. You're looking at the ball if you're tackle. And all of a sudden, you've got the second coming of Troy Palo Malu. Where's Wal-O? Like right in your grill.

Yeah. He turns up anywhere, huh? Yeah. There are a lot of fun, man. It's going to be a really, really fun matchup between the Eagles offense and the Niners defense. You know, Siriotti made a lot of news because of the Pizza Hut thing. I don't know if you heard about that. he evidently he ordered pizza hut he wanted stuff crust pizza

while they were breaking down tape of the giants and the Vikings preparing for your Giants game is that a code break in south Philly to order Pizza Hut with all the the fine pizzerias in close proximity of your facility you got to understand where he was playing I guess college wise was a mountain union I guess what he played at so probably the best place to eat in college was Pizza Hut

Pizza Hut, and he's been so constantly programmed to, you know, that's his only go-to. So what I am at about is we never had stuff crust pizza in the calf when we do our own pizza, but that would be nice. Yeah, to get stuff crust one week. So you actually- Mix it up, yeah. You know how it is. Are you pro-stuff-crust? Hey, man, I'll try it, yeah.

I mean, I like it all. There's a whole lot of dogs. You'll try it or you've had it? I've had it. Okay, yeah, it's good. And then he had little seizures this week, which I don't think I've had little seizures in my adult life. I wouldn't question anything that Coach Siriani says because he seems like a fucking psychopath. Does anybody try to calm this guy down on the sideline?

He said, I know what the fuck I'm doing. When guys lose their temper, as long as they're not beating the hell or hurting somebody, I like to let him go. That's the need to be let go. Kels, Siriani, everybody's got to get it out of their system somehow. It's got to get out of nature. What's his whole poise, you know, like how Doug had his way. And then when we got to the playoffs, like his whole thing in the playoffs,

was to have vets speak. You know, he had his mindset about it. Like, what's Nick Siriani's mindset about the playoffs? I mean, he's pretty consistent. Like, we just, you know, the whole short memory, dog mentality messes. But really, he just lets the older guys kind of do the speeches or whatever in the locker room. But like where I think he likes to have a lot of fun is giving the refs hell. Yeah.

That's, it's like the dog and the mailman, bro. They have a mutual just hatred. So does the dog ever catch the mailman? Dude, like when I look at the coaches like early in the week, you can tell like, yeah, they're sleepy. And then as the week progresses and how much film builds up, they just circles and the dark spots around their eyes just start going down.

So I do enjoy seeing that. I like knowing that our coaches are working. Well, it's good to know he does sleep sometimes because he was looking like shit halfway through the season. I mean, he really was, man. You guys got to get him like a pull-out couch in his office. Then there's aging of presidents. There also needs to be aging of head coaches.

You're damn right. You're damn right, dude. That would be a good look up. Oh, no question. Depending on the team you're coaching, too. Yes, that would be interesting. Cliff Kingsbury, guy was an international sex symbol. And then, you know, four years later, three years later, not even, he didn't even go full term.

He looked like a corpse at times. Like he's been very alive and just came out of the ground. Yeah, no question. But there's two names for you guys, and Siriani was hyping up Jonathan Gannon after your game. That, like, you know, I know these guys are focused on the playoffs. But the reality is these guys are also auditioning for jobs. Like, make a case for why Jonathan Gannon, from looking at you, you know, you're spending time on, it's easy for a defensive guy to say, I like the coach, but you watch him work every day.

Like, what's he about? And do you think he has the leadership qualities that you could see in somebody that could run a building? Oh, most definitely. You know, I think, you know, the first year you come in and a lot of these players sometimes are inherited. So they've only had like one real offseason to acquire kind of what they want for far as what their defense looks like, how their schemes. So to really kind of infiltrate their own type of style in.

And so they know what wins in the league. He knows what wins. Obviously, you got really talented and know what you're doing. But yeah, I just think how he handles himself just with the team, even, you know, with mostly, even the offensive guys, he has a good relationship with. But just him and Shane. I mean, they're both. Yeah, Shane too, yeah.

They're both really good at what they do. And Shane is always, yeah, I mean, he's always, like, just like Stereani, but they got a lot of that young coach energy. So they bring the energy and very focused. And, yeah, man, they, but like I said, them having one year to really get their input on the roster and helping with decisions made. I think that speaks a lot too. Yeah. Gronk was on

Gronk's on NFL Sunday with my dad. I don't know if he turned on the TVs before the games, but like Gronk was on there with Bigfella this weekend and was like, hey, and you got to watch the Eagles. Their offense has been great. They got this offensive coordinator, Shane Spikeman.

Yeah, Spike Man. And they pan over to my dad. My dad's like about to crack up. So you guys you guys ought to call him Coach Spikeman. I'm going to say it calling Shane Spikeman for now. You got to. You got to.

He might get it. And then, you know, like on the coaching end of things, man, it's been fun to watch what Doug's done in Jacksonville, man. I know they're done now, but that was a big, big year for them to take a huge step forward. Like the belief in him and now Trevor, is there any surprise? I mean, like, for me, I was surprised it went as well as it did. I thought it would turn around. But, well, I mean, Doug's good at the quarterback position, man.

I mean, as you know, I mean, it's like a pitcher in baseball. I mean, it does make a tremendous amount of difference. But I feel like, you know, that was his kind of job in the NFL. He was a coach. And then he, you know, at times he was helping Brett Farb out. You don't realize how much those guys help the guys playing sometimes. Yeah. So I just think that.

And then their defense, you know, they're starting to build that up. They'll probably get a few more pieces there in the draft. But they're not, they're not far off. off, get a couple more weapons for Trevor. But yeah, just from where they started and then to where they finished, it was impressive watching. I smile watching him on TV. It's just like it's impossible not to, yeah, enjoy, you know, kind of seeing him on.

Because people just that don't know Doug, he's just such a unique cat. Like, he's just so in his own world. He's not worried about bullshit. He showed up on Saturdays with Louisiana Monroe, all the stuff. Uh-huh. Louisiana boy. No, so I'm rooting for Doug. Lane, I think I'm going to get up for the game this weekend.

Let's say the Eagles win for some reason. I don't want to put the cart before the horse, but where are you going to take me to eat after the game? After, before. You're not taking me anywhere before. You're going to be doing your... Well, I didn't know what day you're coming in, Friday, Saturday. Well, I don't know yet.

I got to clear it with the kids, but if I get up there, we go to chickies and pears. Pete's, where are we going? We're probably, we need to go to State 48. That's a good steak spot. Stake 48, yeah. All right, so if you guys get the win at State 48 on me, okay, as long as they have TVs in there because I want to watch the other game?

Yeah. Okay. Okay. Farrakha, you got anything else for the, possibly, the two best tackles in football. I did like, the two best tackles in football are going to be on the same field this weekend. I mean, and. Oh, you boys. Yeah.

He was older than ever got to play with him. That would be fun. He just be out there just velocirapting dudes. Dude, the two best tackles of football on the field this weekend. We got to talk to one of them. My favorite tackling football, Lane Johnson. Appreciate the time and good luck this weekend, my brother. All right, guys.

Kick-ass, Lane. Yes, sir. It's always good to talk to the big fella. This week we were talking about it, Reed. He hasn't given up a sack in how many plays? Is like 30,000? Yeah, it's a couple thousand. The last sack between him and Jason Kelsey was 2021.

And only a pressure since like halfway through the season. Yep. Week 11 of this season. We really should be talking about Lane Johnson as one of the best tackles that ever played the game in a time and a place. He won't, chances are, walk away with the Pro Bowls that, you know, like some of these surefire guys had. You know, like people consider Walter Jones the best ever.

I'm not saying he's the best ever. What I am saying, though, is in his prime, he's about as dominant as a guy, especially when you consider the quality of pass rushers today and the amount of times he has to drop back and protect. I think he's been just remarkable. It's awesome. Only truly special guys can play while injured and still be good. Yeah.

And I'm not trying to say he's Jonathan Ogden or something. Again, it's really hard to compare, you know, eras, even if it's 10, 15 years. And these guys are the greats of the greats, because they had really long resumes of greatness, but Lane's window here since the championship. And before it, overcoming injuries, overcoming everything he's overcome. Like, he is one of the best tackles to ever do it in a time and a place. Some people might call me a homer, but.

That's well said. Yeah. And on to one of the fucking best teammates you could play with. And a guy that has turned. himself into like an important piece on a championship caliber team in Ted Karras. Huge piece. I mean, he's he's done a really good job. He's made himself money in the league. Like he wasn't a, you know, a heralded guy. He was young when I was in New England. I didn't know what he'd turn out to be, but he is a fucking riot to play with a lot of fun.

And now he's a veteran. So I know the muzzle is really off and he's got to be just a joy to line up next to him. Cincinnati rather. And somebody that probably keeps it light in. that room. So can't wait to talk to Ted and stick around after this for a little bit of fun mailbag. All right, I got I got stud lineman Ted Karras, who's a guy that I played with in New England. And I just, I was just catching up with him offline. It's so damn cool to see you playing football deep into the postseason every year, man. I've been been very fortunate with some, some played on some great teams, man. It's been, this will be my fourth AST championship appearance. Very grateful. And thanks for having me on, Chris. Been a fan for a long.

time. Dude, I appreciate you. Just super happy for you. Um, is there anything like, you know, before we get to Sunday and the whole thing, you know, you have a unique experience because you played in New England. I remember when I got to Philly, like dudes were like, what's, tell me, what's the secret? Like, what's it like? You know, the whole thing. And it's not quite like that, but there's some pretty cool shit you can learn playing for the Patriots, like, especially right now talking to younger players, is there anything you learn there about the playoffs and kind of the way to be that you've imparted on guys? Well, the main thing, you know, Bill would always say home field isn't really an advantage.

He would put up the stats and meetings and, you know, show scores of home teams getting blown out in the playoffs. I remember that was an early thing. I think he always had a meeting called playoff myths. Yeah, okay, I remember that. The two biggest things being home field doesn't matter and playoff experience doesn't matter. No, it's true. It's one of the things, like when they used to ask around playoff time, I was like, guys, like, I've seen guys. myself included make big mental errors in playoff games like fuck up in a playoff game luckily

nothing ever burnt me but you know like guy who's been a league 10 years can make them you know guys that have been in the playoffs 10 times can make mistakes and guys you've never heard of can make big plays like look at the history of our game so I think that's really like that's an important one because it doesn't matter like experience matters but it doesn't really I bet this bengals team like a lot of guys before last year never sniff the playoffs absolutely I mean it was it's a really young team too. So this is kind of, you know, everyone's first experience in the NFL in general. You know, they had a, you know, a deep run last year. Yeah. You know, they're taking some of that experience here with us, but, you know, everyone's, everyone's grinding in now. It's a fun team to be

on, way different culture than it. Yeah, yeah, I can imagine. And also, like, the city, like the fan base, you know, I saw you guys, like going to the tavern and the game ball and everything. Like, it's just right up your alley, too. And it's like, it, but I just, when I got to fill, really is the same thing where it's like this city hasn't won in a long time. And the feeling is so fresh and so like different than, hey, New England, we've been there. Like, this is what we do. I don't know if you had that experience versus the real hunger of, you know, for a championship. It's really cool, man. And that tradition that Zach started going to the bars is like a dream scenario, really after a playoff win. It's a dream scenario. That was a bar that I, you know,

wanted to go to. That was the first night out. I went out on draft night with a couple guys that I knew that lived in CINCY. And then this group of friends that kind of works there is in the neighborhood, introduced themselves to me. We've been friends ever since. They set up 200 people there. It was pretty awesome. That's so damn cool. How loud it to get in the jungle? Was it the loudest you've heard it there when Hubbard returned that fumble? Oh, yeah. I mean, it was electric. I think a stadium record again, we've had three of those this year. So that's It's pretty amazing by the Sincey fans. I didn't even see what happened until he was on like the 25.

Oh, really? You were like getting water going over. I was locked into the iPad. We were trying to, we were really what we were preparing for was, you know, a game winning drive. If they score here,

we got to go win the game. Yeah. No, it's crazy. The Ravens, they're just so tough and they muddy it up, no matter what the situation. I just,

uh, you guys are such a mentally tough team. And I think a lot of that edge seems to come from the QB too. I mean, like, What's his effect? You know, like, everybody knows he's a badass and, like, he's a leader and he's got an edge. But, like, how does that literally translate into the way you guys operate?

Well, I think one of the, you know, understated points of Joe Burrow is that he performs at an elite level every time he's touching the ball. Yeah. You know, you can be a leader all you want, but it is a performance league, and he's probably the best I've ever seen at delivering the ball right to the spot. Yeah. But his attitude, his energy and his relationships with guys, he has his own. little, you know, quirks with each guy.

And really, he's a killer. He wants to go out and win. And, you know, you can see that. I saw it in his eyes a few times. I'm like, oh, we're winning this game for sure. Oh, yeah, dude. I mean, the way he walked into the stadium last week in Buffalo, he, like, bumped into the door.

Like, the door almost fell off the hinges. Like, you guys, like, at 180 or something. But he's just, he's just so damn on a mission. And the drip, the swag is impeccable. I just wonder on game day, If dudes are like, you don't talk to Joe Burrow on game day. Like when he's over eating breakfast, does he eat alone? Like, is he just in his own?

Or is he pretty chill on game day? It's just kind of a folklore thing that he's just ice water in his veins, not saying shit. Well, he is ice water in his veins, but he's not rude at all. Yeah, I would imagine rude. I just imagine, like, that guy is a stone cold killer this morning. You know, let me. Oh, I don't talk to him until CQ exchange. I give him a little fist bump of CQ.

I'm letting him do his thing. Wherever he needs to get for us, he makes us all look good. So I'm not overly bogging him down with any of my game day needs. Yeah, well, he can't go out to that tavern. Like he can't walk around Sincere. No, he can't. And I guess it's kind of sad. But I guess if he's up for it, you'd have to plan it.

You have to plan some security. People would probably be in tears. This city loves this team. And he is obviously the paramount leader of it. So it's really cool, though. You know, like, I know he might not like the comparisons, but I definitely see the Brady stuff. Like, I see, you know, what it was for me initially was like,

look at the way he navigates the pocket. You know, like the other stuff great. Like, yeah, being a, everybody's different. You know, I hate it when they boil people down to be like, oh, he's probably just like this guy. But, you know, like his accuracy, the ball placement, as you put it, like making conversions, you guys are like built so you can drive right down the field. it's not like a bunch of big plays it can be but you know having that ability and i thought like

in the pocket kind of his understated athleticism it did remind me of brady am i crazy you've played with both of them very very similar demeanors as far as like you need your qb to be pretty cool with everybody yes i think it's a you know it's i've been very spoiled with quarterback play in my career you've been a little spoiled yeah and it's an interesting kind of comparison where Tom was in his 40s but still a superstar and, you know, Joe Burroughs, 26 and a superstar. And, you know, they carry themselves. They have, you know, great relationship with everyone like I mentioned. And, you know, on the football side of it, Joey B is a little faster than people think, too, though.

Yes. He makes a yard for it. He's more athletic than Brady. I'm not saying that's the thing. Like, make no mistake about it. You know, like once he steps up into the A gap, if it's vacated, Joe can pick up 22 yards. Like, no problem. I can count those runs by Brady on one hand.

Yeah. You know? And he can, he has the ability, like great awareness, like you said, you know, we have a good relationship as far as like our set relationship, protection-wise, and he understands all of the schemes and knows where we could be broken down at times and maneuvers himself and, and helps us out a lot. I think that's one of his biggest improvements this year as we've gotten to know the new O-line and the new system, kind of working together to eliminate pressures and all that stuff. The O-line's coming together, man. It was tough to see Jonah go down, but, you know, know, like watching Carmen work in the second half of that Baltimore game, he gave up one sack.

I don't know if there was supposed to be chip help or what, but like, I thought he looked pretty good. And I knew that he'd be up to the task this weekend. What do you see from some of the guys that have stepped up? And then also, like, what are the mechanics that go into like literally playing together? Because you guys have been through this at the beginning of the season two. Like, yeah, you have this like little dream team in free agency, but nobody's played together. So like how hard is it and what have you seen from the young guys that have had to step up? Well, Jackson, Akeem, and Max, I mean, they came in and they've really bought in early.

You know, everyone kind of got their role after camp and they bought in. And really, we're very hard workers, scout team all year. And when their numbers called, I mean, they delivered a huge performance in Buffalo. I was really proud of Jackson. You know, he's come a long way, you know, from how I met him and, you know, where we started this year. And took advantage of an opportunity. that's carving out a role and playing really well when it counts the most. I think it's a tremendous foresight by our upstairs that they got Max Sharping off waivers to

in the beginning of the year. He was a three-year starter in Houston until this year. Obviously they drafted a guy, but that was good for us because he's a proven starter. And it's been kind of a plug-in play scenario for a lot of these guys, which is a testament to Frank or coach and also how they've prepared all year to be ready. That's awesome, man. Yeah, you guys played really well together. How was it playing in the snow, man?

Like, did you guys eye that forecast towards the end of the week? Is there talk, you know, I know you guys like those big boss shark, you know, rubber things that I'm like, how the hell you digging in with these cleats? But like, is there talk about the footwear? What goes into it when you see on the forecast that we're going to be getting wet weather and it's cold? Well, as a center that, you know, the wetness is always a factor with ball handling. I made sure I had, I towel a series because it was ice and now. I've never really played in a game where it's snowing and sticking, accumulating during the game. So that was a new experience for me.

But it wasn't too cold in Buffalo, not as cold as it been in the past. But the snow was a factor. We didn't talk too much about it, though. Yeah, no, it looked fun, though. It just looked so fun. I turned my TV on. I hadn't looked at the forecast. It was like, boom, Tony Romo, Jim Nance, and a bunch of fucking snow.

And I was like, this is just playoff football. I was so excited. O'Lyman might not get excited as the fans do when the sun. snow comes down. The O-line is excited. Center less excited than the rest of the O-line. You're the guy who's stressed. I bet the rest of the guys are like, okay, you slow the rushes down a little bit. You know, the footing's not as good, but this week, big challenge, Chris Jones, man. Like when I watched your last game, when y'all played the Chiefs and watched it back, I just every play starts for me. I'm like watching film and the first thing I'm looking at is

where's Chris Jones? It's just like even as a viewer. And I know you guys, a lot of it is going to be like where the where the hell is this guy lined up um how hard is it to to to block him what kind of a challenge is that and what do you have to do well i think the the first thing you notice about chris jones is just how big he is yeah i mean he's he's all of six six very long interior rusher just about as long as interior rushers you know have ever been so and he has good finesse he can he swims a lot which is a dangerous move sometimes hard to defend especially quickly off the ball um but obviously we're going to be focused on him they have a lot of other good players too. They got Frank Clark over there on the edge too, who's always played really well in the

playoffs. That's, you know, been a big part of his career. So we got a challenge, you know, going up against them. Inside Derek Nottie, they got a good front, man. They're a good team. This is, you know, kind of turning into a, you know, a big matchup. We've been, Bengals have played the Chiefs a lot in the last couple years. Yeah. And the communication at Arrowhead, I mean, like you guys have to really go through it to communicate. No, we're going to have to, we're going to have to, but, everyone's Everyone's got to turn their head both ways. That's my away game rule for communication because you can't just shout into the void. I don't know if anyone's hearing me.

Oh, definitely. We had linebackers and, you know, you'd just be like facing the other direction, yelling something. No, you got to get in my fucking ear. And sometimes I got to look back there to anticipate the call. And that's tough. It was nice in Buffalo going up 14-0, six minutes in. That kind of tempered the crowd a little bit.

That's huge, right? Because that place was ready to erupt and you all just had the opposite effect. And like, I know that's a big part of, you know, on the road is like you got to come out and punch them in the mouth. Absolutely. This is the fun part. Okay, so like I was looking up who were some of the celebrity fans of the Cincinnati Bengals. And with the long years of, you know, obscurity and maybe some losing, but people forget

that the 80s were, we're pretty good in Cincinnati. And there's some people that like the fucking Bengals and you can't do anything about it. And there's a lot of cool ones. And I was going to give you five of them. First, I was going to ask, you know, if you've met any Bengals celebrity fans? I know. I mean, there's a lot of local celebrity podcasts. Cincinnati has an interesting media market because it's like, it's got like, I would say,

10 big podcasts that are just ran by fans. Really? Interesting. Yeah. Oh, that's cool, man. Well, I'm talking about people like George fucking Clooney here. I was going to guess George Cooney's from Northern Kentucky. I haven't met him, but I do love that he is a Bengals fan.

That's good. Okay. We got Clooney. We got Nick Lackey from 98 degrees. I believe that's 98 degrees. Is that Nick Lachet? Oh, Nick Lachet. Why doesn't he smell like Lachet?

What the fuck? Hey, Ted, did you know how to spell Nick Lachey's last name? Let me, let me try to guess. L-A-C-H-E. Why? That's pretty good. Yeah, you got it, dude. I mean, like, Nick L-L-H-H-H-E.

name should be L-E-S-H-E-A, in my opinion. Okay, so Nick, Nick Lackey from 98 degrees. You got Woody Harrelson, which is cool, Carmen Elektra, which is cool. And then Jerry Springer. Okay, there's five of them here. You get to have dinner with one of them. Who's it going to be? I would have to go George Clooney. I mean, a dinner with Carmen would be exciting, but just to just to talk to George Clooney, he's been the tip of the top of celebrities for so long. It'd be cool to just taste that world for a second. Yeah, exactly. Like, that's, like, that's, well put.

That's really well put. Okay. You're a big fan of the office, like so many in your demo and my demo. I was wondering if I would take a shot at a couple of the characters, you could tell me who might be the most like this character in your locker room. Okay. Let's start with Creed Bratton. Creed, man, that's a tough one.

It's an insult. Isn't it an insult? Because he's kind of crazy enough that you like him and you're like, nobody fucks with that guy. And if he says anything... I'm going to go Clark Harris because he's kind of the old... He's the old elder statesman and he's a little bit, you know, he'll get after it. That's perfect. He'll throw some stuff out there.

That's perfect. Clark Harris is a legend, man. I mean, like, this guy has been there forever. He probably knows every bar in Cincinnati. Oh, I'm sure. It's been to all of them. He's like Creed. He just sits in the corner and occasionally says something off-putting. Okay. Mike, I have written down here, Mike, that's Michael Scott.

So who would be most like Michael Scott, which is also an insult, so we don't maybe want to insult. I mean, these are tough. I mean, you got to. Okay, Jim, give me Jim. Jim? man I would have to say almost Joey B you know he's the cool guy in the office

everyone kind of wants to be his friend but he's kind of a little bit you know you got to work for it to be his friend but he's still really cool yeah like just kind of an observational like what the fuck is going on here yeah oh yeah really

that kind of thing yeah okay I've got Dwight man you know I would say as far as like crazy antics I'd probably pulled some of the most. I mean, my old line, we have like a fine board system and they, Alex Kappa instituted a TED fine and it's $50. And it's the only rule is you know it when you see it.

You know when you see it. Give it an example of something that was seen and known. Like, um, I would say for way in day, I get fined every way in day because I got to bring up eight water bottles to the morning meeting, you know, to just get that, that last six pounds up. Okay. I'm just doing something ridiculous. Like chugging eight bottles of water. That's perfect.

Yeah. I got caught doing it at the combine to try to get my weight up. Tony Spirano, God rest of soul, saw right through it. He was like, really sunglasses. He was like,

I noticed you were drinking eight to ten aquafinas in the hall. I was like, damn, this guy's good. Sometimes you got it, man. I mean, it is what it is.

Fuck, yeah, dude. Okay. And then last, Stanley. Stanley. Well,

I mean, the first thing it comes to mind is grumpy. Over it. over it grumpy and we don't have many stanleys i would say someone who does get we have a pretty high energy team but you got a lot of andy's we got a lot of andies we got a lot of andies i would say we got a lot of dwight's enthusiasm too that's i mean even just like looking on the plane ride back to everyone grinding the film and in between the celebrations walking up and down was great but stanley i'd say someone who does would get pretty grumpy would be

Trey Hendrickson. Trey's getting older, quick. Like, and I think the way, not on the field. Mess with him. Yeah. But he's definitely a vet now. It's funny. I can remember the kid in New Orleans, like the rookie.

We traded jerseys. I was like, this kid's just such a bright-eyed little guy. And now he's just this fucking, you know, he's got war paint on. He's, yeah, I never seen a smart. He's like a karate master pressure machine. I mean, his little double swipe, knee up. I love that. And there's no Robert Californians.

As long as there's no Robert Californians, everybody's okay. So there's no Robert. That would be front office. Everybody would get in trouble. Robert California was a weirdo. He's way up there. Okay. You're a big 10 guy.

I learned a lot about you today that I just didn't know, like including what you. I knew your uncle play, but I didn't know that he went that Howie Long went the Alex Karris route, that he acting. Yeah, I didn't know that. dude holy shit i mean i've actually never seen blazing saddles wow yeah do this pretty bad huh you should check it out it's a classic it gets uh i mean it's it's culturally explicit okay i'll get it when i when i watch it all right so it was nineteen seventy six but it's everyone loves that movie man very uh jean wilder classic they were they were uh

classmates at iowa no way yeah Well, it was funny because we were just prepping a little bit and somebody said his uncle was Mongo and blazing saddles. And then there were like five people in the office that were like, his uncle was Mongo? Wait, Mongo? Like, people are really into Mongo. Mongo was a great character, an all-time character. And he got the part by walking into the office and throwing the chair against the wall and said, me want part. That's fucking good.

that's so good but the other thing i learned was that you're the seventh person in your family to play football in the big 10 that is that accurate yes so my last question to you ted caris would be big 10 officiado how do we feel about the new kids and like can it ever feel normal to have these uh these conference of champions teams in the big 10 you know i think conferences I think nothing's going to feel normal in college football anymore. Now that there's some NIL going into it, it's going to be, you know, kind of always was chasing the dollar, but I think it's going to be even more exasperated for these teams to team up.

And, you know, there's 100, I guess, you know, teams in that league, but really about 25 that are generating the biggest revenue for it. So we'll see, they're all teaming up. I'm interested to see what the SEC does more than the big 10. They kind of will control. the, you know, the path that it goes. But I think it's just kind of just big money football now. It's just kind of, you know, going to be a, you know, anything to drive revenue.

UCLA, Illinois every year or every other year. I wouldn't mind going to Westwood every other year. Right. That's the part about it. Yeah. So kick one team out of the Big Ten. Rutgers. Okay.

Yeah. I'm sending this to Devin and Jason McCordy immediately. And Dron. Oh, yeah. I didn't play the Big Ten. They were in the Big East when the Big East was rolling. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But then they got scared and they ran away.

Or the Big East got, you know, employed to nothing. So, okay, Ted Carras, awesome player, great guy. And, dude, I'm just so happy for you again. Kick ass this weekend. We are a pro Bengals pod. So make no bones about that. Thanks for having me on. It's been a long time.

Won't be so long the next time. Absolutely, dude. I'm going to come down to the tavern. I would love that. All right, big boy. Hey, it's good to see you. Thanks for the time, bro. Oh, that was fun, man.

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Tennessee, y'all too. 1-800-9-9-9-9. All right, before we get to mailbag, Kyle, you're watching The Last of Us. Yeah, Kate and I made it about a quarter of the way through episode one. It's a lot of fun so far, but we had to stop. It's a scary show. You know, we had just put the baby down,

and it was really quiet and eerie out in the country. And, you know, the fun guy is not very fun at night. Yeah, you're right about that. Do not call it a zombie show. That was pointed out to me very firmly by a few of these, like, I don't know, video game types, your people, that they're like, it's based on a video game and they're not zombies. I'm like, well, watching episode one kind of look like fucking zombies to me, like run-of-the-mill zombies. A lot of traits of zombie movies.

Technically, they're reanimated by a fungus. Yes. And if you paid attention to the beginning, the opening dialogue. But what's the difference between a zombie and that? Well, a zombie is that, but what we know as a zombie is actually something else. I know, but like Webster's Dictionary. I'm not really sure, but the way they explained to the beginning was there's a fungus that gets inside of the host. It becomes the host, and then it just feeds on other things.

Zombie. It's a puppet. It's a mythological, undead, corporate. Porporeal. Okay. Portorial. It's not, it's not,

it's not literacy. It's, it's just the, the size of the font. I think, which the zombie is a dead body reanimated through various methods, most likely,

most commonly magic like voodoo. Okay, well then walking dead's not zombies because it wasn't magic and voodoo. It's an outbreak. So guys, get off your fucking high horses, get, step down off of your gaming chairs.

Can we just choose to call it a zombie? No, but I mean, like, It's an outbreak show. But like zombie shows and stuff like that are typically associated with like B movies and they don't want to be thought of as that.

They want to be like high art. They want to be in their own class. This is a fungus reanimation movie. I'm looking for something to watch when I eat some fucking pork rind. Just be happy I'm watching the video game show. Yes. But honestly they're not because you know people that they...

Be happy I'm not playing Warzone for 20 minutes so I can watch. But people that that that, that, We're on the ground floor with something. Don't like it when it gets popular. One of the ways they cope is educating the new fans. Showing off their superior knowledge base. Shurpas.

Looks like a zombie to me. Yeah. It feels like a zombie. I got to say, really creepy. When the young gal, I'm not sure. By the way, we stopped when they were pulling her out of the truck, and I hope she does all right. But there's a lot to, there's a lot to remain here in the show, obviously.

It doesn't look good. I saw a lower leg. I saw a lower leg. leg injury. I looked at Kate and I said she's not going to make it, but we paused it. So we're going to see. She might be doing all right. I will say when she checked on

Mrs. Abner or whatever and she was over there looking at the wall and she was in the mirror. You could see Ms. Abner back there looking a little sketchy. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. Oh, man. And the way she was feeding on her, you know. Yeah. Oh. Yeah.

Ms. Abner was off the Zen. Yeah, she needed a zing. She was on like a 24. She needed a Ziv. That's how I was Saturday night. I got home a couple drinks. Yeah. Was like, let me pop in another six and another six. He'll eat my kid.

No, and then that's how I felt. I was just, I was all fucked up. And I was like, I actually just took it out. I was like, okay, I've seen the light. All right. So we have some mailbag questions. Love mailbags. We love mailbag.

Huh? Good job this week on the mailbag guys. Yeah, they did a good job. They were like lickety. split, man. The first one. John Dabkevich asks, you know, you guys talk about worst plane ride, but what happens after

a big loss at home? Say like a playoff loss or, you know, something. I can speak to this, being that I lost to you. Yeah, that was. Playoffs at our home in Chicago. When we lost in the double doin game, I mean, we

leave the stadium and you're in downtown Chicago, and one thing you don't notice pulling in is that the entire skyline, is lit up in Navy and Orange and Go Bears is on the side of big buildings and, you know, small businesses, just like a high school town in Texas on Friday night.

It's all for the home team. And then you realize that you kind of not only let yourself down, you let your team down, but there's an entire city behind you. There's an entire fan base that sees it. You let Ashton Coucher down. Quite literally, you could be letting your team's Ashton Coucher down. Yeah, like think about that.

as you guys are, as Cody Parky's not driving the ball enough. Like you just let Ashton Coucher down. You let Mike Dicka down. You let Dick Buccas down. A lot of plays in that game, let him down. You let the mayor of Chicago down. But yeah, it sucks. And, you know, for a lot of these guys,

it's probably a 20 to 40-minute ride home, I'd say, on average for some of these guys. It's quiet. Coming home, it's really quiet. You try to play some music. I used to love to put on some Drake after games and chill out. Yeah. And on my ride back to Lake Forest from downtown Chicago,

it's a really quiet time. It's the only real still that you get. It's the calm after the storm, I guess, and you get to think. And then you show up to your house and you usually have to entertain guests. That's the part that kind of keeps you from losing your mind is like people are in town. You know, not that I don't love my wife, but we've been in the foxhole together, you know, for 16 regular season weeks, five, six weeks of pre-season. and training camp, OTAs, like everything,

every moment, if you look back at your year, was centered around preparing to not go home and to perform individually. So you think of all the time that went into it and it's just gone. Yeah, it's tough. But when people are in town, that helps a lot. That's a good breakdown, Kyle.

Yep. Good question. Okay, I've got another one for you. How will the chiefs adjust their O-line play? This is from Ryan Thurman with Mahomes having an ankle injury and how will that affect the type of defense. The Bengals run against him. I've talked about the way the Bengals might play him more.

I mean, the first meeting, they ran 15% man. That could go up. You don't have to worry about him scrambling as much. Certainly your calls in the red zone are going to be different. What you expect out of him is going to be different. You could rush with more reckless abandon. You could almost invite him, you know, force him away from his throwing him. hand and make him have to leave the pocket.

You know, if you're the right end, you could take more up and unders. You know, the guys inside have to be at his feet. I don't mean, like, being dirty, but I mean, like, you have to be pushing the- -make-them-feel-you. The interior offensive line back into his feet so he can't land confidently and throw the ball. So there's a lot of ways that's going to affect the defensive game plan. What about the offensive line?

I'm glad you brought up at the end of your points there. You're talking about getting around his feet, making him feel you. in terms of the inside of the pocket getting pushed. One thing we have to remember, my guy, Nick Allegretti, did a really good job filling in for Joe Tuny. The last Bengals game, and Nick Allegretti's been around under Andy Heck, the O-line coach for a while.

He trusts him. He can play any of these positions on the inside, but nobody does it quite like Joe Tuny. And when Joe's in there, particularly in conjunction with Orlando Brown, that left side has a lot more confidence, communication. They're going to be at home.

I think it's going to be, spread the field, have Patrick take the snap in the gun, and have him make quick decisions. And Andy and Eric have a deep, deep playbook that they can draw from with spread it out, quick game. And I think you do that with Pacheco in the backfield.

You're going to do a lot of inside zone standard stuff, and they're going to rely heavily on these big guys up front. We know Patrick isn't going to be able to do the standard. Rollouts, naked, boots. They're not going to be there. The RPO game is what they're going to have to rely on heavily. And it's going to be a true run-pass option. It's not going to be a run-pass-run option.

Like we see with the Eagles, you see Jalen take the ball and run with it. You can see Patrick do that sometimes. Though it's not his preference, he's going to need to run it with the running back, hand it off, or throw it immediately. And I think for offensive linemen, it actually gets easier in a sense because balls out. You know where it balls out. You know where he's going to be.

You know, like a lot of times you all get beat for sacks, but you didn't really get beat because your quarterback's a little bit, you know, aggressive and might drift to nine or ten, or, you know, maybe he drifts a little bit to the right or the left. So a few ways. Or it's doing a 180 out of bounds, throwing it behind his back, you know, to somebody 50 yards in the house of field. Yeah.

Which is nice. Brock Purdy's pretty good. This is from Mark Bergen. What was your welcome to the NFL playoffs moment? Well, I'll go because I only had one game in the playoffs. I would say that it was playing against Fletcher. And, you know, I'd played him before and we'd gotten after it pretty good physically. And he's obviously a great player.

But the welcome to the NFL moment was the end of the play wasn't always the end of the play. Usually there's a time with our internal clock where I'm blocking you or you're rushing me and you see that the ball's out. and we kind of laugh and, you know, run down the field to wherever the ball was. The play is never over in the playoffs. And Fletcher made me realize that because we were on the backside of a draw. I clubbed him outside and he went to go arm back over. He took me by the back of my helmet and drugged me to the ground and took off. And I was like, this is what people are talking about when they say it's more physical in the playoffs.

You know, the play goes on a little bit longer. that was my welcome to the NFL moment. Just a level of physicality against the Eagles, really. Yeah, Fletch was tall task for anybody. And for me it was New England, you know, like not necessarily the game was moving faster, but that I overcompensated for being in the playoffs and tried to do too much

and got to feel the steepened kind of, I don't know, disciplinary system in the playoffs, like from a standpoint of, If I fuck up, Bill's gonna sit my ass down for a little bit. Yeah. You know, like when we got in there and played Texans, I was lined up, you know, outside over a tight end in a two-point stance. So I wasn't like a two-point stance guy.

You know, I didn't like being in it. I like being in it in a five when nobody's out there because it just like feels like, hey, you can run off the ball. But the footwork on stunts and like crossing face is all fucked up. Yeah. As a guy with a hand in the dirt. And I was supposed to stunt. and I kind of like instead of exit no I was supposed to you know come down and and hit the tackle

and cross face if if he came out to me there's a way to do that and it ain't arm overing the tackle and trying to like you know be one of these playmakery guys I'm just not one of those people and I was like oh it's a playoff game I want to make a play so I did it and he got me under my arm and I got fucking I didn't I don't get pancakeed a lot but I got taken like two yards inside like into the tackle like asinine play. Yeah. The type of play where you're like, what the fuck is he doing?

Yeah. And I don't make those plays. And I remember, you know, they got me off the field. And I would say the rest of the playoffs, for most of it, I was not a first and second down guy.

You know, I just think like Bill has to trust you a great deal to have you in there. And I was undersized anyways. Most of the time on first and second down, I was playing in a three. You know, and that was a moment for me

where I was like, damn, dude, like not only do you have to, and this is something I told the Eagles the next year, because Doug used to get us up to talk to the team if you've been in the playoffs. And my message to them, it must have resonated because Zach Ertz was on TV like last year talking about giving the same speech was like, let the play come to you. You know, I think that's one of the hardest things doing the playoffs because I've been waiting 10 years for it. You know what I'm saying?

You got to actually do your job. And when it comes to you, you got to be perfect. And that was the whole, like, don't try to do too much. And that was my welcome to playoffs moment. Yeah. It's a good one. Yeah. I've got a couple right here.

Yeah, hit us with one of yours. Thoughts from a player's perspective with McVeigh wanting time to think about coming back and deciding to come back. Well, if you think it through, it's interesting because, you know, like a major life decision like that, if you need time to think about it, like coaches interview for other jobs, in the playoffs. They can multitask. And then like how much Jeff Fisher used to say to me

or he said it to me when I was retiring. Don't retire in a J month. January, June, July. You'll either be too reactive after the season or you'll be dreading training camp or whatever it is. And you know, and

so I look at it like that's a J month. You know like how much can you really glean about how you actually feel about doing the job? and I kind of wonder if McVeigh actually got a real look into, you know, where his head's at for four days after a season. I also do think it had something to do with TV, you know, in the setup that he was going to get or wasn't going to get,

was going to dictate, can I seamlessly transition? It does bother me as a player if you ask for an unwavering commitment. Yeah. Regardless of what's going on in my life, inside the building or outside the building on the field or off the field with my family, with my wife, with my girlfriend, with my kid, whatever.

With Matt. And McVeigh has the luxury of being able to say, hey, you know, I need some time to think about it. Yep. And they expect us as players to show up every day regardless of what's happening. It just, it feels,

weird to me. It feels cast system-ish to me the way the NFL set up. I know they're supposed to be a quality in the NFL. Yeah, but you know players consider all the time if they're going to come back or not. But it does take... But it doesn't... If I'm one of his players

and he comes back, I'm going to be like he's not going to seem the same to me. Right. Yeah, I look at it like very cut and dry, cold. If a coach takes a visit elsewhere, his head's still in the game of football. he still loves the game of football

got it got it so there's a big difference if you're thinking about stepping away and we're in week 10 yeah and we're four and six or we're four and four and five whatever and you're giving a speech about you know don't I don't want to see anybody checking out

whatever I'm like hey bud yeah well at least he waited until the end of the season to make it a thing but it was made a thing and you're right like there will be opinions and they will vary like me personally I don't as much. I was raised up among a group of vets that everything

was a business. Like they were old NFL guys and they were like, they looked at things real cut and dry. And for me it's like they're people too. This guy works his ass off. He's got a new baby, that sort of thing. You know how different it is for you and your life now. And I just wonder if part

of it was like, hey, you know, if I'm going to make millions of dollars, maybe there's an easier way to do it. And I think he explored his options. I don't worry about his commitment level. As a media member, I understand where he's at. I do long term. As a person and a dad, I get where he's at.

But if I'm on his roster, I'm going to be like, and I'm not with you on the roster thing as much, but where I am with you is like free agents. Like, hey, come here. Like, we're building something. You know, this year is going to be rough, but we're going to draft somebody. It feels college coaches.

They're coaches at the end of the day. They're all coaches. They're all independent contractors. So, coaches. Yeah, kickers and coaches. Okay. This is from, Tupac shaker.

He's alive. Which remaining QB has the most drip, swag, stilo, can also do this for coach and or defense line. We'll stick to the QBs and maybe we'll get to coach depending on how it goes there at Tupac.

But I would say the guy with the most drip left in the playoffs is Joe cool. Relative to, I mean, like, Joe's this kid from suburban America whose mom made him do the Pledge of Allegiance on video. You know, like,

It's pretty incredible that he's amassed this much swag. I'll go with the actual coolest guy is Patrick Mahomes. Cool. Yeah, coolest. But he's an actual superhero. But I say the most drip. Yeah. Is Jalen Hertz.

Yeah. Every time we see him at the podium, I say, my God. And you hear him talking, you go, Jesus Christ. And you watch him playing, you go, what the fuck? Yeah. But the same thing with Joe. Yeah.

It's like they're both so cool and so confident, but not cocky, like right on the line where you want to. to be supportive of your teammates. You make them more confident by being around them. It's amazing. It's like the Mahomes effect almost. But Joe kind of had to overcome not, I mean, you know, I mean, he's always been cool, but I just wouldn't have. I would have been scouting that. His story is incredible. Bet Ohio State, Urban Meyer, not giving him the chance that he wanted that he worked for. He went to LSU. Best season ever, right? Now I'm looking at Brock Purdy here. I was about to say you guys gave Purdy some pretty strong bulletin

board material right there mentioning all the three other quarterbacks first. He doesn't want to be the swaggy. Now, if I'm going to rank this, like, if we're going to go out to dinner as a team, who am I putting my money on to have the best drip from A to Z? You know, Joe Cool, Jalen, Joe by hair, this is drip. Okay, I'm not saying I like the quarterback more or the person. Just saying, like, all things considered. And then third, I'm going, Brock Purdy.

just because I know that Mahomes is so anti-drip, he actually has drip. As a dad, 37 years old, who wears sweatpants every day, who can't be bothered to put a suit on. Like, what you do, Kyle, is amazing. You go up in New York, you get on an airplane every week. You get to, the producers are, like, telling you what to do and shit. It's more of a conversation here. And then you've got to put on a nice suit.

You've got to pack the suit in a suit bag. Suit bag things terrible. Garment bags are the devil. I mean, the whole thing is just... But you got to do this really remarkable thing. I'm not that guy. So when I look at Patrick Mahomes, I'm like, I can get on board with that.

The guy's like, works at a golf club, swag. You know, like, 23-year-old guy that works at a golf club. He caddies. But then he turns into, like, he shows up in the softest looking, like the most soft material from Louis Vuitton. Well, you know it's expensive.

With the ice white diamonds. I'm like, geez, how much? This is that necklace car. He's a cool guy. There's no denying it. I never see those because when I see him, it's at the golf course. Yeah. He's like you're talking about, he's in a polo shirt and khaki shorts with his Adidas shoes on.

All right, coaches. Until they have their own shoe. Coaches, I'm going. Oh, Shanahan. Shanahan. Yeah. Shanahan. He's a lurker.

Yeah, Siriani's kind of got the Jordan thing going on, like a guy that wears, like, Jordans and like a sweatsuit every day. He's loud at parties. No, he's not loud at parties. I think he's cool at parties. I bet he's loud. Okay. And then number one is going to be Kyle Shanahan, right?

Because he's got kind of Manhattan Beach drip. Low hat. Like that guy is living his best life drip. Yes. You know, like he's like, I live by the beach. I work from home. Sometimes I have a high wife. It's a beach cruiser to the bar.

Yeah. To eat a cheeseburger. You know by walking past him on the street down, down by that restaurant with the big glass front in Manhattan Beach. Right by Simsies. Yeah. All those spots. You're like he's here.

he lives here, like this guy's got bread. Andy Reid's fourth. Well, I can't imagine Zach Taylor looking very cool away from the building. It goes Kyle Shanahan, Andy Reed. Over Siriani. For me. Okay, all right.

This is from Hurricane Chris. Every wave, there's 10 third graders, and every fifth wave includes a fifth grade boss. All the waves. How many waves are you lasting? All of them. They're just going to be his kickball. Throwing them around.

It's going to look like it. Unreal Engine ragged off. You know the cell phone, the cell phone games that people play where there's like a hundred. Multiply. They're just coming at you. That's how I imagine it. And Kyle's the big boss. So give me the rules again.

So let's really answer this. No, Kyle, it's easy. You give them iPads. Just give them all iPads. You just back up the Apple truck. I'm good. Because you don't need to have one kid on an iPad. These kids are just watching other dads in the Metaverse,

driving fake cars around with their kids. kids. Other dads got it. Hey, make friends with your kids. Entertain your kids. Throw a bunch of gummies on the group. Play with your kids. Other dads got it now.

They're on YouTube. No, I'm saying this in Jess that my kids are my best friends. But for the 20 minutes a day that I don't need them to be my best friends, other dads got it. This is a good one. This is from Papa. It's from Ken Flagell's nephew.

He says, Chris, I'm Ken Flagell's nephew. You have my attention. Do I keep the traditional alive of getting him tattooed on my body if the Chiefs win the Super Bowl this year? Oh my God, yes. You absolutely do. There are no stupid questions except for that one. Now, I'm not going to show today, but I have a big Ken Flageal.

It's a great Ted. Flage. It's big. We and Flage go to the same barbershop. Coaches. Do you really? Yeah. The Invisible Barber.

So, Flage, what was I going to say? Oh, you'll get coaches that will text. you and be like, yo, I need to see Flage's tattoo. That's amazing. Can Chris send me? Yeah, you got a text. You were like, yo, some of my coaches were. I was like, that's amazing me too. Yeah. I get, I used to get that all the time, especially in Kansas City. They'd be like, we heard that Chris has flage on his chest. It's true. I was like, I'll FaceTime him right now. I have Flage on my neck. I'm Hey, Chris. What's up, man? I know you're in a meeting, but can I see your tits for a second? When Flage met Meg at practice,

he was like, nice to meet you, Meg. I'm Ken Flage. And Meg was like, I know I wake up next to you every day. Can't take her anywhere. So, Derek Chad, if you switch Maken's and Kyle's body type and kept their faces, who would look funnier, obviously Makin, no guy built like you has that haircut. If he does, he's making money on Instagram with his fitness girlfriend doing like, you know. Which is great. Which is great. but most guys built like you are driving a truck.

Or the one guy on a construction site that like that guy should have played in the NFL. What happened? Was it meth? There is a guy that's on Instagram. Was it an injury? There's a guy who's probably like six foot eight, 300 pounds, giant black guy who's jacked as fuck and he just dances everywhere he goes. He dances like on people. He's been banned from so many establish.

He's just a big smiley, happy. You're not talking about the guy that comes in and yells at people. It's all a joke, but he, like, comes in and, like, acts like he's going to fight him. Okay. It'd be funny to have Kyle go to various bars around Seaville and just, like, apply for the bouncer job, and then just watch to see how quickly he gets it. Content. Let's place bets on which place hires me fastest from the first phone call to...

We send Nate, you, and Macon, and see who gets hired the most and the least. Yeah. Think about it. It's pretty interesting. It's like dateline type shit. Macon will be talking about it's torn labrum. Yes. Oh, I do have a labrum.

Where are you on punching people in the face? Well, you know, I had a friend, and I hurt my hand, and I told my friend that I can't make a fist anymore. And then I sat there, and I was thinking about it, and why would you want to? Next. Right? Macon. Yeah. But imagine Macon's head on your body.

It's just a fucking... I try to look too closely at him. Yeah. Who can drink the most beer out of the four remaining quarterbacks? I got Patrick Mahomes there. I got Patrick Mahomes there. Jalen takes too good of care of his body. I bet he's one of these guys that doesn't drink.

He just goes to the bar and just... I bet Brock Purdy's a, you know, a ghost... What do they call that? A dark horse here. I bet he can drink. I bet he can drink. What were they doing? Yeah, they were drinks.

See his dad up there in the stands? He just had a couple of cold beers up there. It was cold. I'll put it that way. If I can go off board, I'd take men's shoe. Oh, off board. Yeah, off board. Blake Gordle.

Oh, Chad Henny. Chad Henny has drink. Chad Henny is a billion beers. And we FaceTimed you a few times. You did. You always FaceTimbing with Henny because that's my dog. He's the man. You guys are the oldest men in the league.

Oldest men on the league. So, so, yeah, Chad Henney, think about his numbers since he's gotten in the league. The plane rides before they've been. bandit. The plane rides, the golf tournaments, the charity events, the fucking the night before the game in the hotel, maybe. I don't know.

He's a legend. He's a legend. Patrick would delete some brews. Oh, this is from Dylan. What's your Super Bowl drink, your Super Bowl parade drink of choice? I'm trying to imagine what yours would be. I think you'd just be drinking beer. Yeah, a lot of cold beer.

Yeah. He smiled too. I taught the guys in New York. I had many dreams of having that parade at Millennium Park in Chicago and just crushing beers, but it never happened. Well, Kyle, in another life, I wish we were on a parade float together. And when I got New England, I taught those guys you could bring these big Gatorade Coolers. I think I taught them because, like, Dev was like, what? You're going to bring all this alcohol?

I was like, yeah, we're going to get really drunk today. What do you guys do here? You're just like, yeah. Like, what are you just fucking ride around in the? car? I mean, that sounds cool, but I would be like Stetson Bennett. Did you see people got mad at Stetson Bennett? Because he was just on his phone a lot. Turned out he was controlling. He had the ox cord. Is that what was happening? Because he's the only guy that listens to like vintage 50 sentence stuff. Like these kids missed a whole, a whole. He's got Lloyd Banks coming through.

Lloyd Banks! Lloyd Banks had a fucking, so mine was George Clooney's tequila, the Clune. Nice. You know that you probably don't even know it, do you? you? I've had it. It's pretty good. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, me and Timmy Jernigan polished off about a bottle of that thing. There were so many germs shared that week. We went from Minnesota, where we were in the Mall of America, just trapped in there like a petri dish. Half the team was sick. And then we get right on the plane with all our sick-ass kids. Whalen had an ear infection because the whole team and the coaches and the wives and the kids take one plane. They have a couple

planes. You land, you get one night's sleep, take a bunch of airborne, whatever the fuck. And then you get on the fucking float the next day and you're just chug it out of the bottle passing whatever people are passing. And it's just like a fucking... And it's a disregard for... Who cares? Yeah, health. I'll be sick the next two weeks, but I'll be happy. What was your coping routine? I know we talked about how it was leaving the stadium after a loss, but what was your coping routine after a devastating season an ending loss. Really boring. Just get as drunk as I could.

Like, especially early... Just laughing at that. But it's true. Like, you just like, fuck it. There's nothing I gotta wake up for you. I gotta wake up for exit meetings. The number one drunkest meeting in the NFL is the exit meeting.

Like, in St. Louis, I had it down to a science. I mean, because we were, you'd set your watch to it. You could literally schedule it. Scheduled it. Oh, yeah, it's already my good. Google calendar. I've got your birthday. I have an exit meeting. It's January

8 3rd. Elimination day and then an exit meeting day. So you go out and just get obliterated with your guys. We might wait a couple days till after exit meetings to do the let's get a party bus and go we got a party bus one year. The whole D-line in St. Louis and I

made it to the first bar. You know, like that type of thing. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You get excited on the bus. Both parades didn't make it to the club. Things happened fast. Everybody was, yeah, things happened fast because you're dehydrated and the whole thing. But the years we won the Super Bowl,

I did not make it to the nightclub after the parades. Oh for two. People were having the night of their life. I was asleep. In the bus? No, at home. Okay. Because, you know, like after the parade,

I was like just, how about you? For me, it's the first four years of my career. I'd stayed in L.A. during the off season. Literally, the exit meeting would happen. I'd get in my car. I'd get my car packed up and I would drive across the country and I'd make it there in like 24 hours I remember that yeah I would drive you know and you'd go from the frozen tundra of Illinois and you'd drive through all the you know the Midwest states and then you'd make it to

the Rockies and then you'd get through the Rockies and it would start to get warmer you'd come down the hill in Arizona and you're like okay we're okay we're out west and that's how I knew that things would restart and yeah you just crave the sunshine right you crave the Crave the warm the warm air on your skin. That's exactly what I would have said. Yeah. That's my coping. Yep.

Strategy. That's beautiful. The Zen? Yeah. Yeah, just a bunch of Zen. Had they made Zen, I would have put a whole tin in my mouth after some of those games. After we lost the Charlie Whitehurst with a chance to go to the playoffs. Guys got drip.

He would be number one if he was still there. He had one of those cool hats. I saw him in New Orleans. You know a guy who's wearing one of those fucking cool singer song Redder Hats can actually pull it off. You know, you feel uncomfortable around him. He's got his shit together. Yeah, perfect hair.

This is from Charlie. If you pick one team in your career history, Kyle's career history, to have played together on what team would it be? So how am I interpreting that? So you would have liked to have played last year on the Kansas City team. Yeah, really? I think you would have fit in great with that defensive line. You and Frank Clark got on really well.

Yeah, I like Frank. I think you and Chris Jones would have hit it off. immediately. You obviously knew the D-Line coach. Yeah, Brennan Daly. You know Spags well. Andy Reid loves misfit toys, and that's what you and I and everybody else

who aren't in their first nut in the NFL are, we're a misfit toys. Yep, yep, a bunch of maters. You know, unless you're Travis Kelsey and you've been with the cheese for 10 years, you're a misfit toy. If you could reverse it, I would have liked to have seen Kyle next to Lane.

Oh, if Lane Johnson and I, you got to play together in the mid, you know, teens of the 2015-2016 era, it would have been a lot of fun. You know, not that I would have wanted you to go through this, but St. Louis with fish was fun. Like, you would have liked playing for fish. And obviously, William Hayes and all those guys. Oh.

I mean, we just, when you were coming out in the draft, you were basically like one of the gang. We took you to Vegas. Yeah. Had a great time there. Like, you would have loved being on Jeff Fisher team. I did the Kylo-Ran trajectory. Yes.

I went the different way. There was a standoff. Uh-huh. Yes. I made a movie about it. Yep. And the X-Men were there. Children died.

Yep. I was Magneto. What about the children? What about them? Uh-huh. Take care, everybody. Thanks for coming out.