Green Light with Chris Long - Louis Riddick! NFL Free Agency. NCAA Brackets. Capri Sun World Record Chug Attempt.

Episode Date: March 19, 2021

(01:05) - Welcome and Michael Brockers Trade. (15:46) - Chris and Macon Fill Out Their NCAA March Madness Brackets. (33:58) - Louis Riddick on New England's Offseason, Favorite NFL Coach/GM Pairing and MNF Production Meetings. (1:25:17) - Chris and Macon's Best and Worst of the Week. (1:33:26) - Kyle Long's Jersey Number Choice and House Hunt. (1:52:22) - Capri Sun World Record Chug Attempt. Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. http://bit.ly/chalknetwork Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

He has changed, Chris. He's different now. He's like more of a, I have so much knowledge. I'm the greatest coach of all time. I'm going to actually start sharing it with people. Right. Our production meetings, if you ask him the right question, he'll give you an absolute dissertation on football.

Yeah. You ask him a nonsense question. He'll look at you and make you feel like this big. And he's changing, though. And I love that about it. I'm not saying Happy Friday anymore. Why not? goes without saying

Joplin, Missouri Hello Joplin. Now I was tempted to say Missouri as many folks in Missouri like to say and I decided against it. It's kind of like

city in Kentucky, Chris. I say Louisville because Yeah, that's respectful. The natives say Louisville. I've got people who matrici and to that school who say Louisville, but I go Louisville.

Joplin, Missouri, that was where I went. You lived in Missouri for quite a while. I did right on the edge of where it turns into Illinois. That's right. And Missouri, in its weird-ass geography, is going to come up again here shortly. No doubt. Hey, listen, housekeeping. I'm vaccinated.

You've been shot. Yeah, I've been shot. Now could this nurse find flesh in between the wolf skull? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. There's flesh there. Okay. What's above the wolf's head? I don't really honestly know.

Oh, yeah, the word high. The word high, high motor, right? High motor. The high motor. The pejorative term that I turned into a thing that works in my favor. You're good at that. Did the nurse say, hey, wow, these are a lot of tattoos? Um, nurse did comment on the tattoos.

Nurse did comment. She said something to the effect of, if you're afraid of this needle, I'm going to be upset with you. Oh, that's funny. That's cute. You got a good point. Is this going to make me sick?

And she said, no, I do feel a little bit of something. And honestly, since I got, since I got my government chip, I've just been driving around Charlottesville in the pattern of a penis. Because I know they're watching now, right? I've just been driving my car, making little shapes.

You're like a bicyclist on the Strava app trying to... What's the Strava app? It might be Strava, but I think it's Strava. It's where you can... You're having a bad day pronunciation. It's where you can track your runs or your bike rides and people do juvenile shapes

and then post them on social media. Oh, nice. Like, Strava is correct. Strava. Strava, thank you. Cowboy. He would know where... Reed.

Reed would know where. Yeah, he's like on bicycle apps, I feel like. Snowshoe. apps. I do not have a Strava, but a lot of people I know have a Strava. And they talk about how cool Strava is. Strava's going to send him some gear. It's like Facebook, but for people who work out. Look at Reed trying to get some Strava gear. I don't know if they have gear. That's the joke. It's a fucking app. I got it. I got it. I got it. I got a housekeeping piece. Yeah, go ahead.

You were playing music here in the Flavor Station as I arrived as if it were a bar from the hours of 10 p.m. to 2 a.m. Yeah, Cowboy Reed got the speakers fixed last week, last week. Thank goodness. Yeah, that's exciting. What was the song that was being played? Weakass bitch by the 36 Mafia. That's what we warmed up to today. And you were bobbing your head, buddy.

I got a video of it. You did. Oh yeah, yeah. You were just sitting there on your laptop, and the minute that chorus came in. Well, the gentleman says when I say weak ass, you say bitch. Weak ass, bitch. Beech.

Bitch. Yeah. So it was catchy. Perhaps we should have some sort of song reading up to every. I think we should warm up like an AAU tournament. That is what it felt like. Yeah. This is an AAU tournament.

We're the best two players at the tournament. That's right. I'll know why are we listening to Weakass Bitch. Is that our opponent? Yeah, we're talking to our opponents. Okay. Weakass bitch, that sort of reminds me of Dan Katz. It's part of my take.

A.k.a. Barstool Big Cat. I don't know if you've seen this. When I say something, he then goes on his show and says the exact same thing. Oh, you think he's... A few days after the fact. Do you think Dan Katz is... He's pilfering. He's pilfering content.

Dan. Just reach out to me. I'm a content machine. I'll give it to you ahead of time, pal. What was the issue? I told you regarding Tadus, Titus and Tate. Who is, to be fair, that's their guest. Right, right, right, right, right.

And I think today they're having Stanford Steve. Oh, you think they're. To recap, they went Titus, Stanford Steve, not unlike the Greenlight Pod, which went Titus, Tate, Stanford, Steve. you. Coincidence. Perhaps we have the same booker.

Maybe we do. That would be me. You have a side game? No, no, no. So what was the issue? Because you had an issue. I said Tyson Tate has an all-time banger for a theme song. And Dan Katz quite literally took the words out of my mouth days later.

Maybe you guys have the same opinion. That's possible. You know, he has Mark Titus on a time or two every single year. It's a bit odd that he would pick this year to tell him he has a great theme song. Theme song hasn't changed in years, but hey, we guess. Hey! We guess bitch. It was announced today the establishment of the HBCU Legacy Bowl, which is a postseason all-star game that will showcase the best NFL draft eligible football players from historically black colleges and universities.

The game will take place on the Saturday after Super Bowl LVI at Yulman Stadium at Tulane University and broadcast live on the NFL network. HBCU Legacy Bowl popped up on my radar. Yeah, these guys don't get a lot of looks, and it's been that way for a while. So this is kind of cool to see the NFL do this. I know how important those schools are, and those players deserve a big look. But it's not just because you're like trying to include HBCU schools arbitrarily. Some of the best players that ever played our game. Doug Farrar actually wrote an article relatively recently

about like the top 51 HBCU players of all time. And it was it was a great read. And what you realize was man, a lot of the Hall of Famers, like the most famous players, especially like from back in the day, were from those schools. 10% of Hall of Fame

HBCU. That's wild. And that's a great initiative by the NFL. I mean, people are, Rooney rule is in place for good reason and we hope it's doing some good. But this is... I think it's the real deal.

And so... This is tangible. You know, look at these players. You've got Walter Payton, Jackie Slater, Jerry Rice, Mississippi Valley State, Art Shell, Maryland East Eastern Shore, of course.

It was one of my dad's favorite dudes. That played with him and describes the first Oklahoma drill that they ever had. Like it's like out of a book. You know how people are like, tell me an NFL story. Well, people don't say it to you, but like they say it to me. And it's really hard to conjure up great stories. You're like, oh God, fuck, kill me.

I played 11 years of the NFL, I don't know any good stories. My dad's stories about like Art Shell are amazing, just the way it felt. felt to go one on one with him, his rookie year. And also it was coached by Art Shell. So yeah, Archel, Harold Carmichael was like the coolest dude to have around the building in Philly and a legend up there. Robert Mathis, Ennis Williams, Shannon Sharp, Steve McNair, obviously.

But like modern day players like that, some of the players are probably your favorite players growing up. You didn't maybe know it, HBCU. So also Richard Tombstone Jackson. Is that the best nickname of all time? Quite possibly. Guy wore number 87. He was a defensive end. That's great.

I mean, what a life he lives. I got a goat you haven't mentioned. Yeah, I was going to leave that to you. Michael Strayhan, Texas Southern. Texas Southern. Sack record. 141.5. And he's a friend of the program. Yes, he is.

A good friend of the program. Actually, the other day, when Chef failed to credit you on Instagram Strahan goes what's the source nice

yeah he remembers you from probably the big gig a few years ago you guys had a really impactful conversation I'm sure when he came to Charlottesville that we did so impactful that he became

my Facebook.com profile picture for a few years yeah it was a long time I mean not to take you behind the curtain for a second it wasn't because it was Michael Strahan so much as the flow on my dome.

It looked good. It looked really good. So you just didn't want to crop stray out. You know, value add. Stray is always value add. But it was really the lettuce that was bringing the girls to the yard. Is that? I don't have to say.

My milkshake, no, brings all the boys to the yard. Yeah. Just everybody was in the yard. Everybody. Yeah, because of the pick. As soon as you. Thanks, Stray. Just a packed yard.

So less need this week. week went viral. He shuffled a bunch of hats on a table because he was clearing cap space. Wow. Yeah, the Rams social media department chef that up. Is less that type of type of cat? Isn't that a little disrespectful? It's a little disres.

Was Michael Brockers a hat, Les? Sheesh. I love Les. I'm just fucking around. And I love Brock. But, But makes you wonder what kind of hat you were back in the day. Like what kind of hat they viewed you at different junctures?

Like this guy is the hat with the fishing hook in the side of it. Let's get him the fuck out of here. Here's the deal with Michael Brockers. If you remember last year, he almost left the Rams, right? It was last summer. He almost left the Rams. Damn near signed with the Ravens, failed a physical, right? We had him on the show, not soon after.

this was the beginning of COVID. And then in the strangest of circumstances is back with his former team. So Brock thinks he's leaving the Rams, effectively leaves the Rams, says goodbye. I think he even had like a goodbye post and then has to come back to the Rams. Plays here with the Rams.

It's looking like to me that he's going to be one of these cornerstone guys who's going to play his whole career in L.A. And out of left field the other day, they ship him where? Detroit. The Detroit Lions, okay? Not only is that he pulled like a reverse Brian Belaga,

where, you know, like, Balaga went from Green Bay to Sunny L.A. He's going from Sunny L.A. to Detroit, Michigan. Anyways, here's the kicker. The hilarious kicker. When Jared Goff got traded to Detroit a couple weeks back, and Matt Stafford ends up in L.A., Brock like goes on record saying that like it's a major upgrade and all this. Is it a level up in my heart deeply?

Just understanding what he brings, it's a level up. It's a level up. In my heart deeply. Deeply, dude, it is aorta. Like, yes. You can't think of any heart. No, I'm not a good heart anatomy. But it's deep in there.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, and what's so funny is, I wonder how far as locker is from Jerry Gaw now. He did say a few days later, before the news of his move, the line should be very happy with what they have. They got a guy with a lot of experience

and knows how to get to the big game. Yeah, but here's the thing. Nothing, Barack said is a lie. This is the hardest thing about the NFL, like your teammates, and then sometimes you're asked to make A, B choices on the record or like, that's an awkward situation. What does Brock say there?

It's not a level up. It's the same level. That'd be a lie. Like, Stafford's a better pro. You can just, there are 10 million ways to not discuss it. I'm not, I'm not caping for him. But I,

how would you have done it? We're thrilled to have Matt. Yeah, but is it, is it a level up? Is it a level up? So that's how he bought himself time. You just repeat the question. Yeah, and then I go, yes, that's what I was asking.

And then he went in my heart deeply. I would not have gone in my heart deeply. He was just said, I would have said, time will tell, but we're really happy to have Matt in this locker room. I wish Jared all the best. That's a good one. Thanks.

That's a really good one. You could be Michael Brockers. Double teams, not so much. Interviews. I've never, I've never tried to be a defensive lineman. You never know. It could be great. major fly-on-the-wall situation, though, him and Brock.

You know, Brock explaining to him that three days later, I did say that I wish you the best. Don't you think golf's the sort of guy who's like, bro? Let me just tell you. Do not care. Yeah, golf seems like the coolest person ever. Honestly, like, I do have, like, I have a man crush on golf, dude. He seems like a guy that you would love to drink beer with and just chill with. Right.

And, hey, the Rams themselves made it clear, V, the transaction that they think Matt Stafford is a level up. They did, they did. Cut the guy some slack. Major fly on the wall situation, though, that first conversation, Brock explaining it to Jared Gough

what he had said. Chris, let me explain this to you like your six. There is a basketball tournament going on played by amateurs from across the country who have converged on Indianapolis, Indiana, and surrounding cities. they're going to play for national championship.

68 teams are bracketed. We're going to pick winners. And you and I are a team. We are going against Titus and Tate of the really... Love their podcast. Have you heard their intro of music? Creatively named Titus and Tate podcast. Yeah, I have actually.

It's a top jinkle. If we win, we get something. If they win, they get something. Let me explain to you what they... Talk to me about the states. I can talk about the states. because you reminded me this week to not let them off the hook. And so I hit our boy Titus up.

So the stakes are, if our brackets are better, which they will be. More on that to come. Okay. They have to wear Virginia gear and do a two-minute uninterrupted compliment session at the beginning of the first pod after the tournament wraps up. So, if- Complimenting this here. Yeah, just compliment the fuck out of us

and tell, yeah, tell people how awesome we are. And, but be really authentic about it because don't, don't make it look scripted or stage or like you were forced to do it. Like, we know you like us. That's the key. We know you like us. And we should see that. That should come through.

We're not going to lose. So I don't even need to tell you the other side of it. It would be the inverse of that. Right. Now, Titus, to his credit, owns Virginia gear quite a bit of it. Oh, yeah, he likes Virginia. I've seen him towed around a Mincer's bag around these mean streets to Seaville. We might have to send Tate some Virginia gear, that tar heel.

But you and I, we'd be in Ohio State and UNC gear. That's going to be easy. I don't think we pick one school or the other. I think to make it as bad as possible, we each have to be wearing Ohio State and Carolina gear at the same time. like mishmashed. Yeah. But that's fucked. But their head to tow,

Wahoos. Okay. So let's fill out the winning brackets. The problem is, Chris. We know their bracket. Oh, no, that's not a problem. And I'm actually not going to look.

No, I haven't looked. I haven't looked. That's going to screw me up. Yeah, fuck my brain up. I hate the bracket, Chris. Oh, me too. I love that it exists. Needless to say.

But I'm not, I don't see, I'm not seeing it well. A couple years ago, I usually do, I don't know, okay in these. not good, not bad.

Not just because Virginia won it two years ago. I rarely, I think that's probably the first time I picked Virginia to win the tournament. I just saw things. Yeah. I saw things. You had a six cents. I had, I think I had, who'd I have? I had somebody weird in there

too. I think Texas Tech I had in that Final Four. This, I'm not, I'm not seeing it. I'm not seeing it specifically lower quadrant in the Midwest. But do you want to jump in here? Well, you could imagine how little I'm seeing when I literally didn't see it this year. Like I did not watch college basketball save for Virginia about five to seven games.

So I'm not even going to fake the funk, dude. I have no fucking idea what's going on. Meg filled out of bracket too. Let me tell you what's in her bracket. Because it would be entertaining if she beat us. It was one year that she got in me and my buddy's bracket group and smoked us because she doesn't watch. So that's why I feel good about my bracket this year.

You, maybe not so much. I'm actually maybe feeling good. Who she have? She has Iowa, Michigan, Baylor, and Oklahoma State in the Final Four with Iowa beating Oklahoma State. Iowa. Damn. I mean, you got one of the best players in the- provocative.

In the game, but Luca Garza, I mean, the tournament's dominated by guards. Iowa, I have Iowa departing in the round of 32. Well, I don't have Iowa going anywhere yet because I haven't done my bracket, so I'm going to do it right now. In Michigan's without Isaiah Livers, who is the stir that stirs that drink. That doesn't sound right. He's the straw that stirs a drink. Oh, livers, yeah. Livers is, I know enough to know he's a big piece and they're kind of fucked.

Oh, listen to you. Yeah, they're kind of fucked. Well, I had to do a whole college basketball pod with Stanford Steve. I think he was on part of my take just days later. Livers to Michigan could be what DeAndre Hunter was to Virginia in 2018. Yeah. He fell to Maryland, Baltimore County in the first round. Yeah, I have Michigan.

I know in my head pictures is out early. Meg was reading it and she was like, she just burst out laughing. I said what? She said, Grand Canyon. And that's pretty funny to somebody that probably hasn't, you know, intently read a bracket in years. It's like a school that that's barely more actually existent than I'm going to have a bunch of

Grand Canyon kids mad at me. I'm never going to be able to go party at Grand Canyon. Like in a David Hasselhoff situation, like a minor league David Hasselhoff situation where I find myself in a college bar. But they are barely more existent than University of Phoenix to me. It's a school that's like in a movie. That's what I mean. Like Grand Canyon State, that's like what they name a school in a movie. I'm obsessed with college sports. Gun to my head 10 minutes ago, if you'd ask me of Grand Canyon was a school or not,

I'm not confident in my answer, and I've even looked at this bracket. They're blue and black. They have like a sick... And they're from Phoenix, Arizona. Well, they have a really sick atmosphere, and they're actually, I don't want to slander them. 1949.

It's just... Oh, so it's a fairly old school. In 2018, the largest... Christian University in the world, Chris. What are you, uh, what are you saying? Huh? You, uh, well, that's the thing about a Christian university.

I just have faith that it's real. Hmm. 20 students on campus, 20,000 students on campus, 70,000 online on the internet. I would like to repent for my take that I didn't know it was a real school. and I will hope that you, Grand Canyon State, would have mercy on my wife.

It's not Grand Canyon State. It's Grand Canyon University. GCU. Oh, Mr. I just learned. Do they were? It's a for-profit. Have they stolen, they've stolen Arizona's logo,

but they put a cross in it. That's all they did. There's a cross in the distance of the cactus. What's their mascot? Like, They have a dope nickname. What is it? Anelopes.

Oh, that's so cool. Hey, breaking news. Joe Lunardi sees Grand Canyon struggling against Iowa. Did they say breaking? Nah, not breaking. I might break that on my machine. Yeah, so she, long story short, doesn't have Grand Canyon State going all the way. She did request that if she beat our bracket

She wants a soccer trophy that's like six feet tall That's legit yeah Okay, we'll get her one deal If she beats us good luck We know it could happen but I just don't think it's likely Well hearing those picks yeah I feel okay Although I will say Right side of the joint

I've got the same same thing going on All right Little big 12 party on that right side Here we go Fill this bracket out. Fastest bracket in sports. Do you think you can do this in 60 seconds? Let's let me try it.

Do you think I should just do a 60 second bracket? Let me think about who my final four is first. Oh, you're going to go backwards. Inside out. Inside out, just if I'm going to do it in 60 seconds. Okay. Take 10 seconds to think. And then let's try for 100 seconds, 100 second bracket.

100 second bracket. That's good. Okay. Get your head pictures right. Okay. Uh-huh. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm. Three, two, one, bracket. All right, Hoss. What do you want to tell the people? I'm going to tell the people that I've got Baylor over Bama. Oh, I like it a lot. But the only thing I don't like is Bama. No, is that we have all of our chickens in the same coop.

We have all our chickens in the same coop, right? Yeah, we do. All of our eggs in one basket? Yeah, you don't want you. eggs in the coop. Because I have Baylor's my champ and I want them in the kitchen like shout out to coach Wookie. You just hatched a bunch of eggs out there. Oh that's awesome. Yeah. I have Bama in my final four as well and I bailer's my national champ. So once Baylor gets bounced by by UNC and round two we're out. Totally out. But that hey we're we're real you know. The stakes are low because I

like those guys right. Correct. Also I don't mind wearing um oh I mind Ohio's state gear. Oh, I'm mine. I mean, it sucks. Yeah, Michigan. Go blue. Point being, we could have colluded. We could have looked at their brackets. We could have made it so we give ourselves the best chance. Nah, we real. You want me to tell you the rest? We're rocking with the Baylor Bears. Not so sure about the school, but I like that team. Well, I've got North Texas making a run into the Sweet 16. Yeah, I know. Shout out Jay Wright. damn I hate to do that but the clock was ticking I was like Ryan Gosling in the front of an Impala and drive I'm sure North Texas lost nine really competitive games to well yeah but they

won 17 competitive games too so on the plus side plus the green wave that's a sick mascot aren't they the mean green mean green you're thinking of two lane hey I mean green the mean green right mean green is probably cool in two lane green wave Did you hear two lane is expanding? To what? Four lane. Oh my God. Knock knock.

Who's there? Interrupting cow. Interrupting. Moo. Hey. I'm trying to call me an idiot when I play along. I know what you're doing. All right?

Oh my God. My kid tells me that Jogi fell for it. Why don't you just give me your elite eight? My lead eight is Baylor. Well, can we start maybe like top left? Yeah, top left. Gonzaga, Iowa. Okay, I've got Gonzaga, USC.

Oh, okay. I've got Zags out of that match. As do I. Okay, good, good, good. East. East. Regional final. East, I went Florida State Bama.

As did I, with Bama winning. I got Bama winning as well. I mean, I think the majority of the country has FSU over Michigan in that spot to get to the elite eight. I don't think you feel good about our brackets. being so close together. I don't. Well, I don't feel good about mine in general. For ego. No, no, that's fine. Okay, good. But I worry if you are

three-minute brain, yeah, if that does spell trouble for me when I did. No, I think it's good for you. Okay. All right. Your South Regional Final. Yeah, my South Regional Final, of course. Baylor, Ohio State. Me too. I've got Baylor.

As do I. Okay, let's go to the Midwest and talk about the Midwest a little bit. Okay. This could change for me overnight. Could change for me too. And by the way, this is not binding guys. Like we can go to the streets.

But I'm not changing my shit. It's bound. Macon is not a man of conviction. I am sending my kids to Grand Canyon. And I'm not changing my bracket. Well, I might, but not after noon tomorrow. It will be posted on the internet. Okay.

Okay. So I've got, I've got Illinois. Okay. Good. You? Oak State. Okay, good.

I almost said Oklahoma State. In Houston. Right now I have San Diego State. Okay, good. That's where we differ. And I got Houston beating Illinois. And I have, wow, I have Oklahoma State in the final four. So does my love.

My wife, yeah. How far you've got Virginia's Cavaliers going? Well, I have them losing to the Zags. Okay. As do I. I happen to know this. Titus has them losing to Ohio in the first round like everybody else. Oh, they've been quarantined.

In Charlottes, yeah. Every other teams in Indianapolis on lockdown. We've been in Seaville staying apart from each other, not practicing. It might be a blessing in disguise for the hooves. You know what I said this last week, okay? I just had, I'm sorry, I had a thought I might want to change a pick. Man, I have conviction over here. Yep.

That's right. I'm about to shake the earth. You know, it was a good guy. I'm about to shake the earth. That field Yates. Yeah, he's a good guy. You know what? I think I'm going to take the Zags out of the final four.

Wow. You're ziggin, I'm zagging. Ah, but we're married. No, we're not. We need to have a little insurance built in here. This gives us insurance. Yeah, but Gonzaga's far and away the best team in the tournament. Far and away? I got Bama beating them in the final four, so what does it matter? I don't even know what Bama does. They play fast. Yeah, Shacklefer, Quinnerly, petty Jones. Yeah. I love, listen to a lot of content, RE tournament this week. It's just, you know, guy saying, you know, I wouldn't be surprised if this team upsets this team, but I'm going to go

with the favorite. Right. And then they name three dudes on each team and it is just the lamest content. A hedging three names. Oh, that's all it is. Just a hedging three names. You know, we don't do that here. I'm sticking to my fucking guns.

Gonzaga's going down there losing to UVA. Look out for Georgetown, but I really like McKinley Wright on Colorado. Gonzaga's losing to UVA. I feel like that should be a bigger deal. Gonzaga's losing to UVA? That's right. Wahoo-hoo-W. well bro

I'd be lying to you if I said I didn't think about it for a while but we have seen this play before and the who's lost by 23 yeah I know I know I got it I got it so I'm gonna go this is so silly no scrap that

I'm gonna keep Zagga okay I'm gonna keep Kinskoy that was a roller coaster why well I mean it was Gonzaga then it was Virginia and now it's back to Gonzaga and Iowa had a shot. For you, you almost, you almost went with me, but you just didn't believe in Virginia as much as me.

Have you heard this one? It's a, it's a make or miss tournament. Whose makes some shots? And they miss some shots, you know the rest. If the Who's make some shots, they could win this thing. They could be back to back to back-ish. The only thing I do have is I have Syracuse in the Sweet 16. And I have Q's losing in the first round.

Okay. you got a little. Okay. What about the hokey's? Hokies. I got them winning a game. I do too. Yeah.

I have them winning a game. That's an emotional hedge. How about there? How about there? But let's take a minute. Now that we've given them some love, how about let's take a minute and just shit on that video that they posted. Dear haters.

Oh my God. Look at us now. Dear haters video. And they're a 10 seat. It's a clown show. With like God's plan, which is a Drake song, which is like, Which as Mark Titus would tell you is the theme song of Virginia's 2019 title run.

I don't like that song. Not really familiar with it. I think it's a great message, God's plan. I think that's a great message. Grand Canyon. Love Grand Canyon. I'll never not think of Minneapolis and April 2019 and all of those Texas Tech fans playing,

what's the one with Billy Ray Cyrus and Lil Nas X? Old Town Road. Old Town Road. That was hot. And I smile year to year whenever I hear that song because they played it on loop at bars. I'd love to smile during Enter Sandman. One day. All right, cool.

Yeah, congrats on the tin seed. Losers. Dorks. But honestly, I don't hate you as much as making does. You just kind of aren't. You can be annoying about some shit sometimes. Yeah, that's well said. Like in the basketball realm, it's definitely not a big deal.

Yeah, win a title in anything. They did in wrestling. No, they did not. Not an NCAA title. They might have had an individual win something. Yeah, they won an individual title. They have not won an NCAA team title ever. Zero goose egg.

More you know. All right, so that's my bracket. Go Baylor Bears. Post it today. You're today. Our. Tomorrow. tomorrow.

So right, Lewis Riddick. As promised, a long time coming. Louis Riddick, one of my favorite people on TV, former player brings a former player element to breaking down the game. And hey, you could see him making decisions for your favorite team one day. Lewis, how you doing, man? I'm doing great.

Thanks for having me on here. I've been waiting to get on here. I know we'd have some good stuff to talk about, man. We got a lot to talk about. I picked the right time, man. This is, this felt, maybe it was because of the Pats. It felt like it was a, it was a lot. The first day was crazy.

It was exciting. It's always exciting. But the Pats made it like, come on down, guys, join the fun. Yeah, they, I could tell during the season, Chris, when we talked to Bill for Monday Night Football, that he was as frustrated that he has ever been as a coach. Because you know how he is. and I know how he is.

We both do. And he just, if consistency, lack of consistency drives him up a wall. If you can't repetitively do what he asked you to do, like he used to tell me, that's the difference between starters and backups and then all pros and starters

is the people who can summon up their best performance, not once, not a quarter, not a half, but every week. And that's how you win championships. And you know that. He was,

That's what frustrated him that his team just get mauled by the dolphins one week and then play its ass off against another team the next week, you know, like Seattle and be, you know, a couple of plays away from winning a football game. So I knew that he was going to try to dress that right off the bat. And he was going to do it in such a way that was probably going to take it people by surprise because, one, he had the capital to do it. He had the cap space to do it. Two, he knew that the holes were so glaring that he had to do something about it.

And three, when it comes to a veteran free agency market, he's as good as anybody as far as picking vets who he knows have a specific skill set that fit exactly how he wants to play. And you know that he wants to be strong down the middle. I'm going to defend you inside out. You're not going to run the ball down my throat. I'm going to try and run the ball down your throat. I'm going to play great situational defense. I'm going to play great in the red area, both defensively and often. And every guy that he got has a skill set that's going to help him do that.

every single person. And that's why I was like, Bill is not playing around. No. I've had enough of this crap. I'm not playing around here with this. I feel like defense pissed him off more last year, to your point. Like the offense, everybody's looking at the shiny object. But for me, watching him getting the ball run up their ass, that's like, no, dude.

And I was curious as you watched them, was it something that was more of like, hey, did they struggle gap scheme? Was it more zone? where there's certain looks they struggle with because I think they had personnel problems and you probably agree that they just couldn't overcome. Yeah, it was a little bit of all of that. It didn't matter if teams were running power encounter, inside zone, wide zone.

It didn't matter. People were getting knocked off the ball. They weren't holding the edge. People were shooting gaps coming behind blocks on the second level as linebackers, missing tackles. We had their game. the money night game between the Patriots and the bills the week after they had played Miami and Miami. Miami ran for like 250-something yards. And I remember asking him that

question in particular. I said, Bill, what was the issue with setting the edge and, you know, perimeter run force and secondary field players? And being able to play, he was like, you saw it. We just couldn't do it. And he was, I mean, Bill was dropping F bombs to me on a production call with everyone else. And that's where I knew he had kind of just lost it and was just like, this is how frustrated I am about this. But when he starts calling people fucking assholes. Yeah.

I mean, it was like he, he, the guys knew what to do, but they just couldn't, you know, and you know this. I mean, there's a difference between knowing what to do when you, when you listen to it, get installed in the meeting room, go out and walk it through. And then when it's happening, right. Can't actually do it. Right. And that's where the disconnect was.

with him. He didn't have guys who could do it. That's a first for him in a lot of spots defensively. And so I could see that last year and it was like he was frustrated, but it was like he couldn't be personally mad at certain guys because he's just like, we're in the predicament we're in. Like I know some of you can't do any better. We'll fix it in a year. So I guess the question is then with all these free agency signings, and I love the Jonu Smith signing. You talk about Johnu, I think Red Zone. You think about Judon, who I really like, you're talking about setting the edge. You're talking about getting some rush. And a guy can push the

pocket to and rush the way they want to rush. How about defensively, is there a bigger acquisition than Dante Hightower coming back? Yeah. I mean, you know how he is. He's a jack of all trades. If you need him to rush, he'll rush. Yeah. If you need him to, you know, if you need him to rush outside and put his hand down, he can do that. If you need him to be like Pepper Johnson was for us when we were in Cleveland and you have a 250 pound Mike backer and you're just telling him this, hey, look, we're going to send you on these Mike fires there and these A and B gaps. And I want you, if that back steps up, I want you to shorten his neck as much as you possibly get. He's shortened a lot of necks. You know what I'm being? So, I mean, that, yeah, I mean, that's huge. And just, and just having that guy

who when he comes into the huddle and he's calling the call and you're looking in his face, it was the same thing for us when we had pepper. It was like, all right, our lead dog is back. Right. What he says, we're going to do and lets this roll. So they didn't have that last year. And that linebacker, They had nobody who was like that. They had nobody who can stand in front of that defense and do that. In between Dante coming back and now Kyle coming back there too, Van Noi, I mean, he just does a little bit of everything too.

He does a lot of everything, man. Yeah, you're right. So those Swiss Army knife people, just like Jalen Mills, right? I mean, you can put Jalen in three different spots, four different spots. And you know that's how Bill is. Every week he's going to be like, well, today you're going to be the money. Today you're going to be the star. Today you're going to be a corner.

Right. you're going to be strong safety. That's right up his alley, man. So this wasn't just, I hate when people keep saying, Bill's just throwing money at a bunch of guys. No, he's not. He's selecting certain skill sets. And maybe every guy doesn't do exactly what he wants to.

Maybe every guy isn't perfect. But he has a method to this because he's shown that he's done it before. Look, he's done it with you. He's done it multiple. When I played for him, look, he used to always tell me this. And I hated this shit. But he used to say this, you're not good in the deep end. You're not good in the back part of the field.

I'm like, what are he talking about? I got great range. He's like, no, no, you don't. But we put you down here at the money position, and I'll tell you what you can do. You can get up in the faces of tight hands, and you'll beat them all up, and you'll hit them, and you'll tackle,

and your toughest class. And I used to be like, God, why is it? You know, so I used to try and prove him wrong. But at the end, you know, in the end, when I went back and talked to him years later, I was like, you know, you were right, and he would just laugh. He's like, it wasn't being disrespectful.

I just knew what you could do, So I put you in those spots And that's all he's going with these guys now, man. Jalen Mills is a great point, man, because I think Philly fans, a lot of Philly fans are scratching the head because they saw him out at corner getting cooked and man, when the guy's not really fast, okay?

Like, he does a lot of really good things, just running with people's not one of them. So, like, Philly fans are watching one organization use him one way, and they're not realizing that there's a lot of value in Jalen Mills. Jalen Mills does something not a lot of little guys do. He likes to tackle. You know, he can play safety.

You mentioned he play three spots. I guess now the question is in the secondary, and that's been such a strong suit for them. How does he fit in? And then what are they going to miss with Chung out? Because that surprised me. You know, somebody who I think very highly. I think even Patrick Chung is one of the more underrated patriots

over the last, you know, seven, eight years. Yeah. And that's because you're right, because of the different things that Bill would ask him to do. I mean, he would play, you know, if they wanted to go, if they wanted to go sub against a team that was 12 personnel instead of playing base, leaving base on the field, they thought that Patrick could play big enough in the box to where he wasn't a liability against the road. Right. And then he could also cover, though. So if they wanted to go to 12 personnel and they were going to play sub, but they had a real good tight end, Patrick could play that guy because he's good at the line of scrimmage, great with his hands, real good at maybe not being the fastest guy, but you don't. don't have to be the fastest guy if you're so disruptive at the line of scrimmage, and the quarterback has to hold the ball anyway, which helps you out, right?

It's a fast rusher. Right. So I think what you wind up missing with that is that versatility. That's where the drafting of a guy like Kyle Dugger has to pan out for them. Dugger has to come through for them now. He has to be one of those guys who can do that kind of thing. Jalen has to be one of those guys who can do. Now, Jalen's not as big as Pat Chung, but I mean, Dougher is.

So he has to, see, this is where his plan of succession has to, has to hit. And I mean, that's NFL team building right there. Whenever you have something like that happened, and I would bet that Bill kind of knew that that was coming. I mean, he probably knew that, you know, there may be some issues here. We need to make sure that we have other depth to fill in for some of these great situational players that I've had for me. And we just got to keep on moving down the tracks, and that's what they're doing. You had a nice threat on Twitter. If you could explain it to people, I'm not being lazy. I just want to let you do it on free agency. and building through free agency

because it's interesting because we've identified it. We as football people who have played for Bill know what he's doing in free agency. And it's not something he just does every year. He doesn't just go to the casino every day. Yeah. You know, like what's your stance on building through free agency and through the draft?

Yeah. Look, I think there's no doubt that you want to build the core of your football team through the draft because you know that, one, the contract situation sets you up to where you can have flexibility at least during the duration of the rookie contract. contract for these players.

So the more you have of them on your roster, the more flexibility you have to then go ahead into free agency and be selective and get guys and not be constrained by the salary cap. So that makes sense, number one, financially. Number two, I always have equated, you know, building through the draft, like when you have classes of guys coming into college, right? Whoever was in your recruiting class when you were at Virginia. You probably still remember all those guys. Remember all of them.

You have a bond with those guys, right? Because it was your class. So when you come into the pros, your draft class is your guys. And you feel like, okay, this is my team that I was drafted by. You naturally have this affection

towards that organization because they drafted you. You came in with a group of guys. And so you almost wind up, you wind up wanting to make sure that everyone kind of buys in to that team and that team's colors and what you guys are trying to build because you feel like almost like you almost feel indebted to that place. So that's why you want to build through the track.

There's no question about that. But with free agency, I think you have to be very selective, very specific. And you can't have any surprises when it comes to picking up certain guys. And you have to look for specific skill sets. And Bill knows that better than anybody. He knows that better than anyone. This year in particular, though, was a unique situation for him to take, advantage of the fact that the cap went down. A lot of guys were getting cut. Guys are looking

for short-term deals. And he was in a position to really exploit that in a way that's kind of like a very, it's just unique. This isn't a wholesale change in his team building philosophy. He's exploiting an inefficiency in the market because of certain dynamics. That's all he's doing. Why wouldn't you do that? Well, that's the thing with Bill. And that's the thing with the Pats before we move on from them. So people aren't like, geez, these guys are just, it's a Pats. circle jerk here. All right. So like, here's the thing about build

that I always tell people, people are like, oh, the Patriot way, this, that, and the third. The Patriot way is whatever it takes to win. There you go. The Patriot way is to be mercurial. The Patriot way is to be able to adapt.

And so this is a microcosm to me of what they do on the field every week, every practice. This is a match-up thing. This is, this team needed an infusion of free agency. Especially when you're talking about a coach who's been to nine Super Bowls as a head coach one six of them. You think he's going to sit back and go, yeah, you know what? I'll just wait till the

draft. So nobody gets on my ass and talks about free agency. And he's like 70 years old, to be fair. So how long do you think Bill coaches? I wish I knew, man. This guy, he might be coaching like when he's like a damn vampire in 90. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. But the thing I do know about this, and you're right, you know, and we don't want to just keep hammering on Bill. But I'll say this. He has changed, Chris. He's different now. he's like more of a i have so much knowledge i'm the greatest coach of all time i'm going to actually start sharing it with people right our production meetings if you ask him the right question he'll tell he'll give you an absolute dissertation on football yeah you ask him a you ask him a nonsense

question he'll look at you and make you feel like this big and he's he's changing though and i love that about what's the production meeting thing like you know what man honestly i have this taken this approach. Players respect when you have put in the work and done the preparation before you get there. So when you ask them very specific, pointed, intelligent questions,

you can automatically see their face light up and go, oh, damn, okay. So this is that kind of production meeting, not the, you know, this team's pretty good how you feel like you got you know that not the typical crap the preparation is is big for me i love that part of it so and i like to ask guys things that maybe they weren't being expected to be asked but they kind of appreciate their being asked that and when you come out of those meetings you have guys like whether it be cam or richard sherman or um josh allen or tradavius white and

these guys are kind of like appreciating and almost thanking you for the way in which you ask them questions, that's when you know you're doing it, right? Okay, so back to Free Agency, quarterbacks. There's been a ton of quarterback movement. It's like a new era in quarterback movement. It's definitely like the Cardinals or the easiest example of a team that hit it big on this, like in the draft, you know, draft until you got your guy. Everybody's expendable on that first contract, etc.

Yeah. Who's a team this year that you think might surprise people? on draft day. I mean, anybody's fair game right in that top 10. There's only a couple teams that aren't, but... I think the two, especially surrounding the quarterback

discussion, is really Philly in San Francisco, or the two that are in the top half of the draft that can wind up doing something that shocks you. Obviously, Miami could. I don't think they will. I think they will build around, too. I think that's where Brian Flores is going with that.

But I think Philly has to be watched. Okay, because Philly is just enamored with quarterbacks anyway. Who knows what he's going to wind up doing? Who knows what him and Jeffer are going to wind up doing? Because if one of the quarterbacks falls that they really like, right? I mean, we don't know who they really like yet. That's the thing. I don't think the teams know who they really like yet because they're still,

because the information gathering process is so different this year. And it's going to be what, it's going to wind up being later that they come to their conclusion about who they like. They can wind up going there. I think San Francisco is a team to keep an eye on because I just believe because of the nature of Jimmy's contract, Garapolo, it'd be very easy for them to move him and then not have, basically, he has no guaranteed money left on his deal. It's like $2 million they'd have to eat or something. That's right. It's nothing. It's easy for them to move.

And if there's a guy who they feel as though in that offense gives them more upside and Kyle says, hey, you know what? I like building for the future with this guy. Yeah. And the salary cap hit to us is much less obvious on this. I think there are going to be players in that whole quarterback discussion easily. And the only problem is, though, teams know this. Teams also know that Bill's lurking down there at 15 and he needs a quarterback too. People know that Chicago's lurking down there, although I don't know how to hell Chicago gets up high enough to where they can pick someone.

Also, like, good luck with them making the right call on a quarterback. like let's mortgage the house the top five guys the top five quarterbacks are all going to be in play and they probably all will go within the top 10 which makes it's good it's just going to be an absolute it's going to be must see it's must see tv dude it's going to be the best draft to watch man because it's just it's unpredictable on so many levels and i think philly was one that i pinpointed obviously um i talk philly a lot geoffrey lorry came out and said like yo we're sticking with with Jalen Hertz. And I like Jalen Hertz. To me, what I like about Jalen Hertz is his leadership abilities. Like to me, he commands a huddle. I don't know about him. The football player, we'll find out.

He's got some really nice tools. But four games, it's not enough when, to me, when you know that in a year, look at that draft class. I don't know how you feel about this, Lewis, but this year, teams that are considering a quarterback, they might have to wait a while because next year, and I don't know college football like everybody else but outside of a couple guys i don't see first rounders out there yeah no there's no doubt about that i don't think you can always i don't think you can be betting on what potentially could be in the pipeline down the road especially when you have options staring you right there in the face right surplus and philly look look i've heard different different theories you know presented about what they should do like well you need to find out

about jay one so you need to build everything around him and you drafted him in the second So why would you waste time draft another quarterback? Well, that's how he got drafted. Yeah. Well, the flip side is, well, what if he is a bust? Yeah. And then next year, you don't have another option. The worst thing that you could do is being quarterback purgatory.

The very worst thing. Chicago's been limited for years, right? I mean, that's a spot they're in right now. And then what if they're just good enough to where, you know, say there are some quarterbacks that come available next year via the draft that are pretty good. But what if you're just good enough that where you can't be in position to get one of them? And if they're right that Jalen is good. enough to play them into the middle of the first round.

That's right. And that's the thing. That's purgator. Because I think Jalen Hertz is a good enough player if you can develop him. And this is why I wish for Jalen Hertz a lot of times and for the Eagles that he was on a really good team that's ready to win right now and can develop him. Like Jalen Hurts in New Orleans with Sean Payton, I feel good about that. I don't know what Nick Siriani is going to, no offense to Nick Siriani. It's just like a player I haven't seen play before.

That's right. And if I like Jalen Hertz, it's fair for me to say I wish he was somewhere else for the kid and for Philly because you're kind of in this in-between situation. And also with Jeffrey saying, hey, we're doing this. Why would anybody believe that? Why would you say that if that's really what you're doing? Because as you said, you've got multiple heavy hitters lurking trying to move up. Yeah. No, it's, I don't know what kind of games they're trying to play. I think sometimes, man, I think sometimes Philly, you know, try so hard to be the smartest guys in the room that they overthink some things sometimes.

I think they need to just kind of like go, look, they need to get back to the basics and the basics of what Andy started there back in 99, 2000, which is this. I mean, obviously, you know, quarterbacks, we know how important they are. And if there's a good one there, you got to take it. Yeah. There's no doubt about that. You do also, though, have to be mindful when you do take a quarterback.

Like, they weren't very mindful. Look, I know you know a hell of a lot more about me, about, you know, how Carson is. And, you know, no, he's done some stuff. He's come out looking bad lately. But what I'm saying is when you can't also just start acquiring players as if they're just maddened pieces and they don't have personalities. You have to know how it all fits. You have to be very mindful of that and obviously they weren't. Yeah, they were not.

So you got to be careful with that. But I think for sure, for them to just totally shut their minds off to the possibility of drafting a quarterback would be, I mean, that would be something. that they don't want to do. Because there's some guys in this draft who I do believe Chris are going to be special. They really are. And I think, you know what? The one guy in particular who I think you have to be very cognizant and aware of right now is Tray Lance for sure. That is where all the talk is being centered around as far as from a character perspective, perfect.

From a mental perspective and the things they have them to do within the context of that offense, perfect. Just like it was when Carson was there. Yeah. And people love that about Carson. They love the pro-style offense. They love the amount of responsibility he had at the line scrimmage. Trey is just like that. And I would say this,

Trey is a better athlete than Carson. Trey has probably more armed talent than Carson. Wow. He just needs to, he just didn't play last year because the team didn't play. Right. And that one-off game that they played this year, that wasn't his idea.

That wasn't, he didn't ask for that. He wanted that more so for the seniors who were going to be leaving so they could have their shining moment in 2020. He didn't ask that for himself. And he didn't play well. And he says, look, I didn't play well. But don't get it twisted. I wasn't the one who was campaigning for that. That's the guy, though. He could go as high as four to Atlanta. I don't think he gets out of the top five, honestly. I like him. I really like him. I don't know what you know, but I really like him.

And I thought if he's there at six, the Eagles should consider him. And like we said now, you can always, you can always make it work. You know, if he's better than Jalen, that doesn't mean Jalen's bad. and it's not going to have trade value. That's right. I mean, you got him in the second, top of the second. What do you think he's worth now? That's the kind of thing that Andy established when he was there, as far as understanding that even if a guy can't play for you

because there isn't a position for him, rather an opportunity for him to play a quarterback, this league is dying for quarterback all the time. They're always valuable assets. And I hate to call human beings assets, but in the context of talking about doing these, they're valuable assets. So, Russ, as a valuable member of your team,

respectively here. I'm trying to work around saying it. I feel like the knee-jerk thing has been now, like if you don't give your first born-up for this quarterback, you're an idiot. And I know we know the bears have been idiots on quarterbacks before, but I saw the hall, and I can't help but agree with the tweet I saw yesterday,

and I can't remember who it was and drives me crazy because I want to credit this person, but they said, this trade happens. The Seahawks are the Bears, and the Bears are the Bears. Seahawks. Why would the bears want to become the Seahawks? Your ceiling is still, like, you're still going to be like, we're not talented enough and we've got this good quarterback running for his life. Yeah, I think it was Will Brinson said that. Will did. Yeah, shout out to Will. I saw that. Yeah, you know, yeah, I think, yeah, for Russ, I mean, he'd be going to a situation where, where they have an offensive line that is in Seattle, in Chicago, that is average to marginal at best,

poor at worst. And he would be in a situation that's very similar to what it was in Seattle from that perspective. But I think for Rusto, it's bigger than just that. I think he's thinking much more macro and scope as far as who am I

and what do I want to be going forward. I'm in the sweet spot right now. I need to capitalize on who I am at the age I'm at. And I need to be in a bigger market to do that. I think he has much bigger plans. But nevertheless, if you're Chicago, it makes total sense for them because, look, the same thing we're talking about as far as their offensive line is poor.

Their running game is poor. I mean, they can't produce explosive plays in the run game. They can't play within structure there because the structure always breaks down because the offensive line stinks. Yeah. They need a quarterback who, when it all goes sideways, you just go, hey, just do something. Just make something, find somebody, make something to happen, run for first down, whatever. They need that kind of guy. So that's why they needed him or Deshaun.

They need that kind of guy. Andy ain't doing that for them, man. Could have got him for $10 million in Ryan Fitzpatrick. These guys aren't doing it. And so you know what? That's why the Bears fan base knows, too. We're stuck, bro. Yeah. We're going to be in trouble this year. Every year they're in the middle.

They're in the middle. Bill Walsh used to talk about that all the time in all these books I've read about Bill Walsh. There's the teams that you'd rather either be, you'd rather be three and 13, four and 12, two and 14, or the 14 and two is 13 and three. You don't want to be seven to nine, eight, and eight, nine and seven. Us Rams, we didn't capitalize on those two and fourteens for quite a while. I got an O line question because the QBs have been getting all.

I thought the Trent Williams thing was a momentous victory for non-quarterbacks. How many times have we ever seen a non-quarterback just say like, fuck this. This organization is. But you know what? Chris, I think that kind of power play obviously is going to be reserved for the elite of the elite. Right. I mean, so I don't think guys better, guys better not get it twisted that if you're a, you know, you're a mid-level player, don't be trying to pull that kind of shit with teams, you know, like, oh, you're not what? Oh, okay.

Oh, I got it. Okay, get out of here. So, but you're right. I think, I think that that's an attitude that is kind of, it's become. very much so commonplace in sports among the elite of the elite, which is, you know what, we have power. We're not trying to be jackasses about it, but you know what? Everything that you do from the management side isn't always perfect. You're not always making great decisions on our behalf.

You're not always setting us up to succeed, although a lot of you guys, meaning GMs and owners, think that you invented football, think that you have all the answers and you don't. And now we're going to call you out on some of that stuff, which I personally, look, I can play both sides of this. I get it from both sides. If I was a player who had that kind of juice, hell, if you're not even just in sports, if you're an employee and you have that kind of juice and you realize management isn't doing

right by you, if you have the power, then do something about it. For sure, do something about it. And I think the people who also, Chris, were making decisions need to sometimes, man, step back and kind of like look in the mirror a little bit and go, hey man, maybe we need to reevaluate

how we're doing shit here. Yeah. Because, I mean, and that's a fact, even though it's hard for a lot of those guys to do that because they've made so much money and had so much success and they always think they have all the answers. Now, you need to reevaluate what you're doing too because it's a new day for players. Me and Barnwell, we're trying to figure out, like, you know, in baseball, there's a Mendoza line for hitters. What's the Mendoza line for, like, say, a quarterback to air his grievances and actually

force his way out and still maintain like, all right, this guy had a legitimate gripe. He put it at Jared Gough. So if you're south of Jared Gough, just shut up. We don't want to hear it. If you're north of Jared Gough, you can always air your grievances and find a way out of your organization. Where do you put that Mendoza? I'm with you there. I mean, Jared's kind of like the purgatory quarterback.

Like he's just, he's right there to where, you know what? Yeah, we'll listen to you. But if you go too far, we'll cut your ass or we'll trade. You know, he's like right in the middle. Yeah. Right smack in the middle. And then you're right, you're right. It's definitely a line of demarcation.

Like below that, don't even, don't even say it. But there's the people get so scared about this. because the thing is going to turn to the NBA, whether you like the NBA or not. I don't think it can because of the point you made. I just think it's a big victory for players with clout because we've never seen a non-quarterback kind of take that year, or maybe we did,

and I forgot about it, and still get paid like that. Like, you're talking about a 31-year-old, but to your point, it's not basketball, not everybody's a star. And there are guys, there were guys throughout my career that we were like, what's this guy talking about? Is he really like, is he complaining right now? Does he know who he is?

Like, that's always, they're going to be those guys. You just don't hear about him because they just get cut. So, like, football fans, don't worry about it. Yeah, I think that's, you know what, though? I mean, Chris, that's life, man. Yeah. The more skills you have. More you can do.

The more unique your skill set, the more irreplaceable you are. Yeah. The more rope you're given. Yeah. The more you're allowed to say what you like and what you don't like. That's, that's ESPN. That's fine. that's, you know, Julian Packer.

That's wherever it is. Yeah. And I just think now, see, I think people that are so used to in football, right? The mantra is always out of yourself into the team, the team, the team, the team. Right. You know, guys are just supposed to be quiet and be great, great soldiers and kind of always look at the free brother. And that's, and look, we get that. On the football field, it's like that.

All right. When we're playing, it's like that. But it's also a business, too. And there's also a lot of risk involved with playing football. We also know that careers are much shorter in football. And players are becoming smarter and smarter and smarter and more well-versed on the risks of the game and how much you need to capitalize on the rewards that you can get from the game.

And I think Russ and these guys are showing you that, and Trent are showing you that. And, hey, look, man, I know I have a unique skill set that a lot of y'all want. And I'm going to voice, like, and Russ is. case when I feel as though you aren't really maximizing me the way I want to be maximizing. You guys are kind of putting at risk some of the things I want to do in this game. And in the case of Trent, it's like, hey, look, man, you guys are like messing with my life here.

Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm going to kind of take this stand here and I'm going to bank on the fact that I am still so good that somebody eventually is going to recognize that they still need my services. And I think that's just going to be much more common than the NFL now. Much more common. The guys that are getting the ball thrown to them wide receivers, the market's been slow.

I think we know why. I think we know it's a draft class, that sort of thing. Again, somebody threw this out there. Maybe you'll remember. Is there any, like, is there any truth to a strategy or is there any value to a strategy where if you're a wide out, you say, well, this is going to be pretty slow and musical chairs as a motherfucker. Maybe I sign with a team for a couple less million and dual one year, sign with a team like

Green Bay. And I know I'm going to have a great year and I'm going to set myself up to get paid. I know it's hard because you can get hurt. But as players, do we not consider that enough? Like in a year, like in a cycle like this, like set yourself up for the future. I know it's not like, you know, you get the bag now. But there's circumstances. No, no doubt. I mean, I think, I think this year in particular, I think there are more players who are willing to do that, who are doing. And you're seeing a lot of short-term deals right now. Cap, yeah. One and two-year deals

and where guys are saying, look, we know salary cap's down. New TV money's going to kick in in another year or so. Salary cap's going to explode again. Yeah, I think guys should be more open to considering that, and especially when you're talking about receivers, why wouldn't you,

why wouldn't you try very hard to go, hey, Aaron? Right. You think you could use my services here? Yeah, I'll come up there and play with you for a year, rip it up, and then hit them, you know, and then who knows, maybe resign with you or go somewhere else and kind of cash in.

Yeah, I think the whole betting on yourself concept, the whole trying to time it up right to where your production and the opportunities on the market match up are something that people, again, guys are much more and need to be much more, Chris, need to be very business savvy right now because timing is everything. Whether it will be in football, basketball, whatever it is. Timing is everything. And I think you're seeing guys really try to hone in on that aspect of it.

And yeah, it involves some risks. Yeah, especially when a team, and teams know this too, especially in football. They know guys look at their football mortality as being something that is very real to them. And they try to pray on that. They try to capitalize on that and say, hey, look, we can give you this short-term security. We can give you this long-term security right now if you're willing to take something that's a little bit more below market. and they prey on the fact that guys go, hey, man, look, I just want to take care of my family. I haven't never seen that much money before.

I'm good. I'll take that. But then there are also those guys who go, no, I know there's something bigger. It's funny because my contract year, I had read up with the Rams right before Lesson Fish came in and they read me up. And so I got paid. But the year after my contract year, basically, I went out and got rolled up on for the first time of my career. And, you know, had that happened a year earlier? maybe I don't have what I have now.

And so like, as I might have regrets about not hitting the market at 26 and going to a good team and I had to save that for later. But there's this protective instinct. You can't fault players for being concerned about that. And at the same time, I think you have to be open to, depending upon what your own situation is taking that risk. And see if you can time it up just right. And again, I think that that's life in general. man. That's what it's all about timing, risk reward, where you're at as far as your your career and your financial situation. And that's what makes it fascinating. And I love, I love though how the money is

getting bigger. Players are getting bolder. Players are getting more boisterous. They're wanting to look out for themselves. I love how that dynamic is all taking shape right now. It gives us a ton to talk about. Yeah. And it just makes the whole sport much more exciting. It just does. And you interviewed with Houston, Detroit, right? And Jacksonville. And Jacksonville. So three times. Do you think you as a GM being a former player, like that would give you an advantage in negotiating and dealing with players?

Sure. Because I still think, I think negotiations, as much as they are business, Chris. And we know, you know, business is business. Okay. And I respect that players are always going to, and players should do what is best for their own business situation. I think it's also in the NFL and in sports overall. It's also about relationships. And I think people understand.

And this was kind of, this became apparent to me just this year again, going back to those production meetings. People understand, players understand, that I understand where they're coming from. Right. And I can talk to them in a way and relate to them in a way that maybe some GMs can't because I've sat where they sat. And I understand what their fears are.

and what their concerns are. And I understand what maybe their families are telling them and the kind of influence that their families and their situations are having on them. And that guys come from different backgrounds. So their motivations are different. You know, maybe guys didn't come from, you know, a family where, you know, mom and dad were professionals

and they've always, you know, they always have something to fall back on and have some kind of secondary career they could fall back on. And a lot of guys come from nothing. Right. No support group. have never seen, have never had any change in their pocket, and they will take anything that you throw at them.

I think I can relate to all of that. I've been on all sides of it. I've been the guy who's the highly touted, you know, high school recruit. When I was a junior in college, I probably should have left school and come out and would have been maybe a first or second rounder, went back in senior year, got drafted in the ninth round. Right. I've seen the highs.

I've seen the lows. I've been the guy who was cut, who had to go play in the World League in order to get my ass back in the NFL. to the guy who the Oakland Raiders in my last year said that I should have, you know, they nominated me to be the Pro Bowl representative in the AFC on special teams. I've been, I've been the guy who's been shit. I've been the guy who people's thought was a very critical part of the football team.

I can relate to all of that and all those different guys. And I think that without a doubt would help me in that role. And you still want to be a GM. You're still out of your fucking mind. You still want to be a GM and work upstairs. You are on Monday Night Football, but you want to go. subject yourself to coffee 24-7, the smell of Copenhagen and playbooks.

Yeah, those late nights, man, those leaving your house when it's dark coming home when it's dark, yeah, it can get old. There's a lot of pictures I look at that my wife has here of our children, and I go, where are those pictures from? She's like, oh, you weren't home then. You were in draft meetings. You were on a scouting trip. I sit there and I go, wow, man, I missed a lot of stuff in the early 2000s from 2001 to 2012, the time I was in personnel. I mean, that's when my kids were, you know, one, two, three, four, five years old where I missed a lot of stuff because it's a different life. Yeah. It is.

But it's also, I think, the one thing that we all love about football and we all love about sports is we love to be judged. We love to know what the score is. We love to know if we want or lost. Yeah. And in TV, look, ESPN is taking care of me in ways that, quite honestly, not even football took care of me when I was playing. Oh, yes. Fox took care of my dad in ways that football didn't take care of my dad.

There you go. I mean, he knows, right? So it's, I am more than grateful for what ESPN has done. And you're right. I have the biggest, most iconic position right now in broadcasting, honestly. I mean, we all know what Monday night football means. I was watching Money Night Football when your dad was playing. I mean, the Raiders were like my guys. Yeah, I know. Yeah. I mean, it's this to me, when that music comes on in my ears, Chris,

and the Monday Night theme starts playing. And we know, you know, and the producers counting down to when we're live, I mean, my hair stands up on my arms. I'm like, this is fucking Monday night football, man. How do you sleep? How do you sleep after Monday Night Football? Because I didn't sleep as a player, and I know you probably didn't sleep in the player. It's kind of wild because you're right. You're right. You go. back to your room and like you're looking at Twitter and seeing what people are saying about the game and stuff like that. And it's, it's wild. But I think it's going to be even better this year because there's going to be fans. We missed all that. We missed all that. And we couldn't go

hang out at the hotel bar and have a drink and celebrate this year. It's just like right back to your room, pack your shit, get ready to catch a flight the next morning. That's the worst too, because you could be drinking at the hotel bar with Steve, who's the man, dude. He's the best I got to hang out with Steve one time, and I was like, man, I could have a drink with this dude. I mean, he's just perfect to have a beer with. So, yeah. Look, all that stuff, though, was just cut out this year because of COVID and quarantined and trying to be safe. But yeah, I mean, getting back to, do I want to be a GM?

Look, ESPN knows that, you know, I would always listen to those opportunities because they're once in a lifetime. There's only 32 of them. And the NFL is unique. being around the guys putting together a team, you know, and being judged is something that we want as competitors. But at this point, after this year's hiring cycle in particular, it was, I feel a little bit differently going forward, simply because I know just how fortunate I am at ESPN. Yeah. I know the enormity of the platform that I have now and how much it can influence others in a positive way.

And that's, and I'm getting older, man. I mean, I'm, I look at things differently. My mind is constantly changing every day as far as how I look at what is my role and really what I want to do. I like being able to influence and positively impact people and give them hope that, hey, you know what? In this world that I'm in right now, Chris, like, I was listening to Dame Liller talk the other day about after he had, after a game just the other night where he was talking about, I know what it's like to be the guy. who wasn't highly touted, didn't have a Hall of Fame jacket.

I'm in a small market, but I put in the work, and I put in the work, and I put in the work, and I'm getting rewarded for it now. But ultimately, I'm not done yet. Like, people keep saying he needs to leave Portland and go somewhere else so he can be, like, the guy. But what he talks about is the fact that, you know, I'm a guy who really is about the, and I'm paraphrasing, but I'm a guy who's about the process. And I like the fact that people respect me for the process that I've gone through to become

day and time like I am now. because that's who I am. You know what? In media, that's who I was. I came in the media as nobody. I wasn't a first rounder. It wasn't the first one of the draft. I didn't have a gold jacket.

I didn't come in getting the greatest assignment right off the bat and basically having the shit handed to me. Right. What many people do. Right. I was making $800 a show with no contract, the very first year of working at ESPN in 2013. 800 bucks a show

No guarantee of the number of shows that I would get And no contract You're a free agent in camp Not even Yeah so it's got to be surreal to stand up there And have the entire But terrifying too I always say this

The Monday night job is like the Trojan horse In media If you're not ready because And you've done a nice job with it But everybody's like Oh this is the greatest job in the world Like when I do this my life will be made But what I see a lot is that guys are

like, holy shit. I just name search myself and now everybody hates me. That's that, like, that to me is the scariest thing about that Monday night job. You have, you could, I could never, I could never. Like, I don't know how you do that. I don't know how you guys do that. For some reason, you're right. That job has a bull's eye on it.

People don't, you know, people watch Monday night almost to just see what they can pick out, you know, just to criticize about it. And it's weird. It's weird. But I think it's because it's, it just has that, it has that history of our Michaels and Howard Coselle and Frank Gifford and Don Meredith. And all those.

I mean, these are, these are titans in the industry. Yeah. Mount Rushmore people. Yeah. So, so like,

I think that's what it has, but people come to expect from the position. And if you somehow, some way, don't conjure up images in their mind of those people, they are just going to, could be out for blood, man. They just are.

Have you named searched, Louis Riggick? Of course, yeah. I have named search myself before. I swear everybody acts like, if you name search, you're just as weak individual. I can tell you that I've done it in the last three weeks, okay? I've definitely done it in the last three weeks. Anybody who tells you they haven't done that to themselves is full of shit. They're so full of it.

That's ugly, though. You name search after Monday night. Like people, you could be perfect and people are mad, Because like I said, it's when all the cool kids in the high school hallway are all awake. And to your point, like it's so much more than the game. It's so interesting to me. One question about free agency is it ties into GM. AJ Green, okay?

You talked about Trent Brown, who I remember the first time I ever played Trent Brown, I turned to Rob Nankovic in San Francisco. God damn, you go over there and play right at it. Because setting the edge on this cat is like, I've never had problems setting the edge. He wasn't as great in Vegas. you know, New England got the best out of him. AJ Green, to me, I'm not calling him a quitter, but he definitely wasn't himself with his intensity.

And like, I don't blame him. Everybody's got a breaking point in a dysfunctional organization. He had a year where he had kind of, in my opinion, said, oh, fuck this shit a little bit. And I don't blame him. Okay. How do you as a GM, Lewis Riddick, one day, say, evaluate guys that you said,

well, at this point, he didn't give maximum effort. Like, can I get the best out of him? Like, what's the key to forecasting? Can I get that out of him? Yeah, man. I mean, see, that's where the player hat has to come on. And it's almost like you have to sit down with AJ. If you can sit down with him in this environment or be on the phone, whatever it is,

and say, AJ, look, man, let's be real here about this. Talk to me like, look, I'm going to have to, you have to trust me. I'm going to trust you. What was up and said you really weren't feeling it, huh? You know, and you almost have to disarm the guy to where to where he'll just tell you like it really is. Like, hey, look, and if the truth was, like, you had just had enough. You had enough. The way they conduct business, you didn't see that we were ever going to get to where we wanted to get to and you wanted to change.

I get that. You're a human being. I get it. We aren't robots. Sometimes it just gets to that point. And look, he had put up, his resume is long enough to the point where I think I know what AJ is. Yeah. Where his heart really is.

Now, I also will say this, though. At this point in this career, I would tell them too. Look, man, you went the same now as you were when you were, you know, five, six years ago. We know that. Okay. Let's be honest. You can't do the same things you used to be able to do. So where can we meet in the middle to where, look, I still think you can help our football team.

Are you still, I still, you tell me, are you still in, are you willing to commit yourself in a way that maybe you weren't committing yourself previously? Are you willing to play harder than you were playing over these past couple of years? Because I need you to be honest with me, because I'm just telling you. you, we're having this conversation because I want you on this team. Right. So just be real with me about this and say, look, that was a different situation. I promise y'all give you what I got here because we feel is always going to be good enough.

And if you can have those kind of conversations with guys, I think that's how you wind up being successful with guys like this who are later on in their career. Last one, how do you sell a bad team? Because you know a lot of times guys that are getting their first opportunities are or in bad organizations or struggling organizations, you got to sit at the table with a guy and you're going to level with him, you're going to be honest with him,

but you've got to tell them we suck right now. And not everybody you're signing is like, this will pay off in five years and there's a lot of money on table. You've got to sign a lot of guys on one-year deals, two-year deals, you know, like whatever. How do you do that? Yeah, when you're talking about veteran free agents,

who, yeah, man. I mean, it depends where they're at, Chris. I mean, because you know there's different levels of vets, right? I mean, there's the guys who are the 30 plus guys who are like, you know, maybe their skills have diminished to the point where they just want to play a couple more years, bank a little bit more money, and then get out, and they don't really care whether you suck or not or whether the team turns or not. Maybe they want it already.

Yeah, there are guys who are like later on in their career who are like, look, like JJ, for instance, right? Who are telling you, look, I want to win a championship. I've made a lot of money. I've won enough defense to play your... So those kind of guys, they're probably not going to even listen to you. Like, look, I'm out. I'm not dealing with you. And then maybe there's guys who are like, you know, in the 27, 28,

29 year range who still feel as though, you know, look, one, I can get paid. Two, I can help turn it around and they're willing to go ahead and take that chance. So I think there's all, there's a bunch of different scenarios there. And you got to kind of understand where the player's coming from and say, hey, look, maybe we're not for you. Yeah. We are a little bit away. But what are you after?

You know, if you're willing to wait, that's fine. If we know that the guy just wants to get another payday, but he's going to give us all he's got, that's fine too. And there's some guys who, no matter what you say, they're going to be like, no, dog, I don't have time for that. And that's cool, too. Just be honest with me. I'm going to be honest with you.

And I think that's, players respect that, man. They respect that. Just tell me where you're at. I'll tell you where I'm at and let's just see if we can make this work. And you almost have to offer up something like introspective so that they know, oh, he's not bullshit me. He just told me something transparent about our operation.

There you go. And then that's like the art of the deal right there. It's like if you. The vulnerability aspect of, I'm a human being. Yeah. I'm not just some, some automated fucking business.

Automated GM. Like this machine who's just like, okay, this is what we're going to offer. You know, it's more than that. Yeah. And I think the better GMs,

the best GMs get that. Yeah. And see, that's what I think for me, if there's the one thing that really is the true draw, of maybe doing that. It's those relationships, Chris. It's those conversations.

I can just tell you this right now. Just from sitting here for what? We've been on here and hour. Yeah. We could talk about things to where as soon as you say something, you see my head bobbing because I'm excited where you're coming from. And likewise, that's what you miss. Those relationships are what makes it all worth it

when you're talking about leaving your house when it's dark. coming home when it's dark, missing your kids' dance recitals and little league games. That's what you are saying. I need some of that, though. And that's where I'm willing to sacrifice some of this here on the family front. I'm going to let you go on this. Best GM head coach ownership relationship that you admire in the NFL,

because that's so important to be married, I know. Yeah. I think right now, honestly, look, I mean, Andy and those guys are humming down there in Kansas City. Somebody related to me. What the fuck, dude? They just landed my little big brother down there yesterday. I'm kind of psyched, man.

I'm psyched. I'm kind of psyched. I can't wait to see how he does. But I think what Buffalo's got going on there with the cagullas and Brandon Bean and Sean McDermott, they're going to be a force to be reckoned with, man. They are in lockstep. Those guys are like this up there. New England.

There's a reason why Bill's season too. he knows he had to come out strong in this free agency beer because buffalo is not the same old buffalo that's a great call i love what they're doing up there in buffalo louis riddick you can catch him just about anywhere uh he turn on tv he's gracing us with uh he's dropping jewels on us uh from a future gm's perspective that's what i'm hoping for and you can catch him on monday night football you know where to find monday night football this is the easiest plug in the world louis thanks so much for joining us man you got come back another time absolutely thanks for having me on there All right, best and worst of the week.

What you got, man? You got something for best and worst of the week this week, huh? Best of the week. Went back to an old friend that liked to call Chunky Monkey. It's a banana flavored ice cream. Now the nuts in there? The nuts? Why are you laughing?

The nuts? Here's what I do. I opened the pint. So the top is on is next to me. Oh, my God. I'm eating out of the pint. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And the nuts in there.

Yeah. I don't care for the consistency. They break up and they get in my teeth and they ruin ice cream for me. So I spit out the nuts. Are you following me? I'm following. Chunky monkey, banana ice cream. I think it's a pecan in there.

I spit that out. The dark chocolate I eat. So I eat a banana and dark chocolate ice cream, chunky monkey. At any rate, I hadn't been there in a long time. I had been on chocolate chip cookies. I had been on flowerless chocolate cakes. I had been on New York Super Chocolate Fudge Chunk

Never Cherry Garcia No Really? No What's wrong with you? Yeah Everybody likes it Not a big fan

And maybe you find it revolting that I That I spit out the nuts But they don't They They, I don't know They change and therefore ruin the experience

So what part's good? Oh, I just I really like my system And I like the ice cream It was good to get back to Chunky Monkey. That's the best of my week. Oh, that's good, man. What a week.

Worst of my week could be related, Chris. Yeah? To me. No, to Chunky Monkey. I have had a Zit for 10 days. Now, over the course of those 10 days... Sounds like more of a boil. Over the course of those 10 days,

we took pictures of the baby. Ooh. I am too scared to look at them because I don't know if the Zit's been shot. or not? Do you want me to look? Nah. I will look, dude.

I'll look and then I'll tell you if you look like an idiot. There was one time. I flew, I took time out of my life and flew on an airplane to St. Louis, Missouri to watch you play football and I knock on your door. Right. To announce my arrival. You open the door. Friend again coming to see me play football, traveling all this way. And you laugh right in my face because you laugh right in my face.

I had the biggest Rudolph the Reddney's reindeer zit. You just started laughing before you even said hello. Oh my gosh. Looking back, it was classic. That's the way, but that's the way to do it. When somebody's got a big Zit, you just say, man, look at that thing on your face. You know, like just cut the, take the edge off, you know, take the edge off. Really hard to, you know, like be the counterpuncher on a podcast when the host is just trying to smoke drugs.

The entire show. Just I just cheech and chog over there firing up drugs Do you have a contact tire or something? I got to fill some I got to fill all this airspace Now you know what it feels like to be the host When

Oh my gosh Look what I just did When will the zits go away Do you get zits? You're just known for your Yeah I'm known Great skin Yeah most people's in my Wikipedia page

Your wife Somebody talks all the time about Oh he doesn't put anything on his skin Yeah I don't Just perfect I don't listen I got great skin But yeah, skin's a beard, man. You just keep the beard.

Well, but I can't. I know, but if you had a beard, you can't get, it's like a rule. You actually can't get a Zit if you have a beard. So just food for thought for you. If you have those great skin, why'd you draw all over it? That's a good question. Best of your week. Best of sound of metal.

Oh, movie film. Very good movie. You should check it out. It's on Amazon Prime, something like that. But we saw it at Violet Crown. Shout to Violet Crown. They're renting out like theaters. Oh, you get one shot and you just, as Eminem would say, you get one shot.

I think he says, do not miss your chance to go to a movie theater during a pandemic. Yeah, pretty much. Okay. You'll realize that's funny when you listen back in the edit comedy. Sound of Metal, great movie. Heavy metal. A heavy metal drummer's life is thrown in. to free fall when he begins to lose his hearing.

That, that premise hooks me. That sounds interesting. It is very interesting. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm. Hmm.

I'm in a heavy metal band. Voice a little horse right now. You don't want to know what we're... What does a horse say? Nay. Hey. We might be on trucks. You're high, dude.

I'm not high. Yes, you are. They say nay. You're right. You're high, dude. Look at your eyes. Look at my eyes. Yes, dude. Read.

I haven't done a drug a day of my life. Yeah, but your contact, bro. Brodsky. Look at you. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome.

Welcome. Stop. Stop what? Podcasting? Podcasting? Podcasting? Nay. That is that, yeah.

Nay. Not hay. Hay is what they eat. Hay is for horses. Yeah. When, when somebody says, Hey to you say hay is for horses Anyways great movie

Go see you sound of metal Riz Ahmed and Paul Racy is the supporting actor That just absolutely stole the show But Riz was amazing too It's great movie You should see it You should see more movies

Agreed What's the worst of your week? Oh worst I don't really Oh my God Is this a bit Just every week you don't Nothing bad happened

Well I put it on the last podcast that one night the dog which is not it's working out but willis boy oh boy willie yeah it wouldn't come outside kind of just sitting there and i'm trying to go to bed it's like midnight so i'm trying to get him to take a leak and in the back of my property it's heavily wooded so um must be nice well no you'll understand why i'm saying this it's not a woods flex it's not a mature hardwoods flex uh dog's not going i try to encourage him by peeing in the against, you know, in the woods. Like, come on, man.

Like, look what I'm doing. I had to pee and I didn't want to go all the way inside because then you could pick the dog up and that sort of thing. It's my property. It's my property. So I take a steamer of a, of a piss, which sounded the wrong way for a second, but, you know, and the dog comes over, and before I'm even finished,

it's trying to drink it. Yes, I would have predicted that. You would have. Yes. I don't know. I just thought there was something. in the evolutionary

kind of chain somewhere along the way that taught dogs and their DNA not to drink urine. They're big hydration kings themselves, Chris. It's like,

I guess that's the worst part of our week. I don't know. I'm going to self-report with the police that I'm high on drugs. Hello, cops.

My friend has gotten me high on drugs and I wanted you to know. With a smart on your face. Look at your smiling. Let me light another one up. I'm just gonna smoke you out dude. God damn. I'm just kidding. You're not kidding dude. Look at your eyes. Panama Red. I can't look at my eyes. I can't see my fucking eyes. You idiot. He's paranoid. He's paranoid. Oh, he's paranoid. Did they drop me on my own head?

In reefer madness. It's getting the madness. Look at him. All right. really grin. For the sake of the segment, that's the best of your week, yeah? Oh, yeah. But, but in reality, the best of the week for me and for you is Kyle Long to the Chiefs and Kyle Long picking his number and us just repeatedly getting the scoop. The number part was pretty cool. And we might have gotten the scoop on a bestselling NFL uni. Oh, for sure. Long 69. Yep. Read into it what you will.

But it's an all-timer. All-timer. So I would say this, when they write this story one day about, you know, Kyle Long going to Kansas City Chiefs, broken by us predominantly. Yeah, I would say, mostly. I would say me, but yeah.

Well, no, I was talking about us versus like Schaefter. Sure, sure. Tie goes to us. You know, we got the number break. And it was really nice of you to let him have the signing because we got the unretiring

we gave him the signing which is like scoop charity it's a write off what you did for the kid it's a write off and then we get the number break which is a bigger story to be honest

I mean his name is long and he has the number 69 on his jersey and that's probably the only way he could have gone, right? I mean, 75's taken. Rammers. 69 being available is stunning. Here's what was available. 57, 60. 57? I think you want to throw up. 60. 60? No. I don't have time for 60. No, I don't have time for 60 either. He was almost 65 because he was. He called me from the equipment room. And that was for 10 minutes what

I thought he was going to do. I didn't think he was going to do 69. He essentially, was so casual about it, he asked me kind of like, what number do you think I should wear? Like, as if it was like, what snack should I get out of the vending machine was the same conversation I was having? In fact, I don't even know if he thought through the implications

of number 69. I don't know. He had to have. I don't know if he did. He's a millennial. He had to have. We should power rank the 69's. The wearers of 69?

Yeah. So we got really, to mock us up a list of 609s in the league to see where Kyle stands. Do you stand at the top or at the bottom? For me, he's head and shoulders at the top of the list. Yeah. The back of his uni will read Long 69, which, is that a good thing? Listen, we're going to leave him out of the rankings because he's obviously number one.

And I was ranking them based on how funny the jersey is. I'm ranking them, you know, the same way. Okay, because Holden 69. Oh. Will Holden and tackle on the Colts. Holden 69. Just like we're in a holding pattern. Tyler Shatley.

Now this is just gone poorly if you're Shatley 69. Oh, man. Yeah, like, whoa. Really? Yeah. Tyler Shatley. Barely know her. I got Holden Shatley and Long.

Oh, I left Long out. It's too personal. That's my top three, too close. Too close. Reed Ferguson. Okay. He's got Reed's name.

That's true. And not the other way around. Rashad Hill, number two, I like him. Number three, Shaq Mason. All these people on the internet are right. The long 69 jersey is going to sell a lot.

Yes. You know what? We should have thought of that, though, making you made a good point earlier that 69 the long 69 jersey it's probably going to break a record or two for old lineman probably i mean i mean in kansas city i bet he is four behind mahomes kelsey hill i bet the long jersey is fourth in terms of bestsellers damn you might be right i think that's right a lot of people get the joke jump into my mentions i think that's what they're called yeah whoever's to the tweet.

Everybody's talking about wanting the jersey. NFL shop.com. Tell them greenlight pods sent you. Put in promo code GLP for... 6-9, 6-9, 6-9. For full price plus shipping and handling.

We should pick a house for them too while we're here. And we've got a new screen share thing like on all the big podcasts. Can I look now? Yeah, you can look. Look at Kansas City on Zillow. Does that not the weirdest shape city ever? What does that look like to you? Is that really the city limits?

It looks like an elephant with an erection. Oh, I was going to say a gnome facing forward with a pipe. You see that? Not as much. Not as much. Hold on. By the way, these cannot be the city limits. Dude, I don't know what they were.

I've said this before. I've said it about the airport that the airport is legitimately like, an hour away. So the settlers picked a terrible place for an airport when they built the city. I mean, it's legitimately like a six-day track. Wow,

that is the shape of the city. Yeah, look where the airport is. Where's the airport? It's fucking, as far as you're concerned, it might be Colorado. Why is that shaped that way?

I have no idea. Leavenworth, Kansas, prison, right? Leavenworth, prison, yeah. Overland Park. that's where the chiefs practice maybe is that where their facility is no so so their arrowhead is east of the city i was looking because we're obviously going to buy him a house we're not going to buy him a house we're going to pick the house and then we'll break they'll break the news where he moved in okay richmond we have one of those in virginia we have a richmond as well lawrence is on the screen yep lawrence

like the j hawks yep right exactly we should do this all the time the airport's in fucking lawrence i'll put it that way wow yeah dude it's terrible to most poorly designed city also pick a state Right, big estate. It's in Missouri, right? Right, Missouri. So. Peculiar, that's a hell of a name. It's, it's, you've got a great, Missouri. That's pretty. Population 5,139.

So I think when you get on a new team, you buy the most expensive house in the city. It's like the power move. It's like the first day you walk into prison, dropping the biggest guy, you know? Letting them know you're going to be here a while. Well, and that's the most critical part, Chris. If you're not going to be somewhere for five years, you need to go in knowing you might not get your money out of it. So are you saying Kyle's not going to be in Kansas City for five years?

Well, I am saying that. You think he's going to be here for five years? No, he's not. Oh, okay. And if you were his real estate agent, would you tell him, I would tell him to buy one, two. I would tell him to buy 1217 West 55th Street, Kansas City, Missouri. That does look dope. It's a gorgeous house. Hold on. Let me pull it up on my little screen share.

7.29 million bucks, 10,0006 square feet. Plenty room for Kyle, who is 750 square feet, his damn self. Your estimated mortgage payment is only $36,653 a month. Nice grand staircase. You're scrolling mighty fast. Oh, sorry, sorry. I forgot where my wife says, my lovely wife tells me I scroll fast too. Oh. I must be just a genius or something. Oh, a tennis court. Love tennis. A pool. You know what they have? Carriage house. That's where I'm going to be. They have a look at the maze. Oh, boxwoods. Yeah, boxwoods. And a little gazebo as well, which is always useful. Anytime you have a gazebo, you generally do a fuck ton of things in it. Like, nothing. Tear it down

when the roof falls in. Is a gazebo good? for the value of a house. Nah. So there's nothing you can claim. Do you even walk people by? Do you mention the gazebo? Gazebo is such a cool word that it makes paragraph one of any listing.

It just confuses the untrained ear. Value add nada. But the word gazebo? Yeah. Yeah, psychologically, that does something. Oh, fuck, you got a gazebo. Gazebo. When you turn into that, like, meme,

you're just like, yeah. I'm in the Matrix right now. He's got me in the Mazebo. matrix. I'm automatically accomplished in life now. I'm going to buy a home with a gazebo. Exactly. No offense to any gazebo owners. Quite quite the contrary. Good on you. Actually, shout out to Diane Long, my mom. She has a gazebo. She actually does some shit in her gazebo because she's a big gardener. But I feel like a lot of gazebos are for show. You know, the big tires and you're not taking it off road. I think you might be right. Am I seeing a

Oh, look at that street view. But I worry on a street like West 55th. Well, wow, right there on the line, right there on the Kansas Missouri line. Right, make up your mind. This stunning Georgian colonial is an extraordinary Kansas City landmark. Sitting on over two acres, the grounds include an in-ground swimming pool. A gazebo. Play the harp read.

Multiple terraces and patios. You can have part of your family hanging out on one terrace, part of the family on the other terrace. You don't have to pick a terrace. That's in the listing or is that you? No, that's me. This is how I would sell this home, dude. You don't have to pick a terrace.

Some people down the street, I don't want to say this too loud, but they just have one terrace. Ew. 2020 was hard. I mean, listen, patios, tennis court, all rich people play tennis,

three car garage with full carriage house above for your washed-up. brother when he comes to visit preferably no smoke alarm in the carriage house Kyle can you hit me with a price and tax history yeah hold on one second sorry oh geez he could go blue collar and go to like the smallest house yeah tax history oh whoa whoa whoa whoa what up a little bit yeah the elegant decor is subtle and soothing accentuating the beautiful architectural detail including hardwood and marble flooring Okay. Word salad, huh?

Elegant decor is subtle. Okay. In soothing. Soothing is a big stretch for me. You might be losing me there. The decor is accentuating the beautiful architectural detail. Oh, okay. Listen, what I see here is that they put a lot of money in this house as they should have

and they didn't go in any funky directions. And everything's like these soft, warm tones. It looks, it's a very comfy looking house. to be so rich, you know? A lot of rich people build their own prisons. That's right, that's right. It's in a song. Creed.

A crowd to God's seeking only his decision. And I think, how did I get here? Talking heads. Why would you, I mean, we were, you got to stop down before he mentioned the talking heads after Creed. No offense, it's got to stop. Sitting on over two acres, yeah. So anyways, Walnut Panel Library, which is a big hit.

I got a room with walnut paneling. I spend a ton of time in it. Let me tell you what a fucking value that was putting that in. I wish my real estate agent had told me. The market's hot right now. If you think you might want to get out from under at home, we can find you another home. You can move in with Kyle here.

I don't want to pick a real estate agent that's like, you know, maybe elsewhere mentally that's like podcasting or that's like tied up in a labor negotiation unnecessarily at his workplace. So yeah, we picked it. It's 1217 West 55th Kansas City. Missouri, plenty of room for you and your lovely fiancee, Kyle. And the realtor can now mention as discussed on the Greenlight Pod. Yep. Please credit. Kurt Long. Please credit. Definitely don't move into that place.

The prison for $3.7 million? It's not an entire building, is it? I don't know what that is. Holy hellraisers. 3521 Baltimore Avenue, Kansas City, Missouri. Oh my God. is that the whole building? We might want to look into purchasing this.

Oh my God, dude. Look at this fucking place. No. I would like to go in on this with you. Let's do it. No, we do it. We rent it to Kyle. Kyle will look like the toughest guy in the world.

I mean, he just lives in a, how big is this? It's so big. It doesn't even list square footage. Like 200,000 square feet? It's a prison. It's the side, no, it's a.

I don't, is it a prison? Well, it appears to at one point have been a prison. No, look at, no, it's just one unit, dude. It's not just one unit for four million bucks that looks like that. They got a Dr. Pepper machine, dude. Look at this Dr. Pepper machine on this fucking listing. It's got Pepsi on the side. They're the same there, I guess they're the same company.

Oh. Kyle, talk about living in the lap of luxury. Look at this. This is a mafia patio. People make arrangements to get people killed on patio. like this. Look at this patio. Built in 1925. No central air.

So many people were whacked in this basement, dude. Look at that basement. That's a whack-off basement, dude. He's come down there and just whack people. Two big water heaters. I hope those don't serve every single one of these 500 rooms. I can tell you what's going on in the water heaters. Jimmy Hoffa, dude.

Kansas City mob. Look at this place. Kyle. So we call the, this is, where I start to get into trouble. Should we call the real estate agent? You should call the, I really want to know more about it.

I might, I might, I might, I need a place to stay when Kyle's, that's actually fair as fuck. Don't tell Kyle about 3521 Baltimore Avenue, okay? Don't tell him. Contact agent, show me the, I need a place to stay when I come in town. Kyle, God, we could have fucking negotiated this in the contract, but you're soft negotiation.

negotiating tactics. Do what's right for the team. Okay. You want to call the agent? You want me to? Because that would be more authentic because I probably sound like somebody who's really shopping for...

You're saying I can't shop for a $3.7 million prison? Hi, this is Scott Tucker. I'm sorry, missed your call. I don't want to mess with Scott Tucker. Especially just my brother. He might need Scott Tucker. Does he want to sell this prison or what? Scott Tucker

Call your boy, man I got to hear about what's going on with this apartment building Need a place to stay Wondering about the efficiency Like the energy efficiency of this building No doubt Baltimore Avenue, Kansas City

Good area? It's a big apartment for $4 million It's a big I mean I could do a lot with that Look at that That shape too To you

but a tight you. Like if you're in one of those interior rooms, not a lot of light getting in. Nah, dude, geez. I gotta do something about the light. Chris's wife, Megan, has just text message me and only me. It wasn't a group text.

She has texted me privately. That's totally okay with me. Asking me to call her when I get a chance. Call right now and act like. like I'm not here. It's the best thing for everybody because I'm worried that it's something's like I...

It's not. Oh, it's not? Yeah. It's about my birthday. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I would not have said that if I thought she had something up her sleeve. We're not doing anything for your birthday. That's actually comforting.

I mean, maybe we are, but I'm not aware of it. Swear for God. Okay. Do you want me to call your wife on the pod? She asked me to call her. Sure, call her. Well, you know what's about? I know it's about nothing.

serious. Okay. Don't want me to call her? Sure. Ask her about her bracket. Yo, while I have you, you like Iowa in the West, huh? Not to you with my heart this year.

And you think they can get by Grand Canyon? That, I mean, I don't know how the Dentistry School of Whirl Roberts is going to fare against Houston, which I, again, I was like, Chris, I know nothing. about Houston. I don't know I don't really know anything about any of it. I just went for it.

Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke, Luke. Luke. Mac. Mac. Hey, Luke. I am your father. Okay, get the fuck off of the phone. Hello.

Get off the fucking phone. Luke, hello. Hello, son. Hello. Get the fuck off the phone. What do you like to say out of your son? Hi, guys. I'll be home soon. Soon as making stuff with this segment.

A British man has set the Guinness World Record for drinking a Capri Sun in 16 and one half seconds. You both have Capri Suns in front of you. Did it say how many ounces that our friend, Declan? There's only one size of Capri Sun. Yeah. There's no different. Okay, good. I wonder what flavor he did.

I got a Pacific cooler, obviously. As do I. Can I pop the pouch? You can pop the pouch. I haven't done this in three decades. Do you want a time first? Do you want the first? Because we're going to set a record here today, basically, is what we're saying.

Like, dude, come on. This is easy. I've seen you drain liquid down your gullet before. Yeah. I have no doubt you can do this. I'm, well, stabbing the fucking hole in the Capri's sun is. I'm in. Yeah, I'm a little bit too.

A shakey or something, I don't know. Oh, I'm nervous about setting a world record. You know? Something you're never going to forget. Now, Caprisome Pro Tip, put your straw all the way to the bottom. Oh, God, I thought yours. Okay.

And you get all the juice out. Cowboy. Why don't you go first? Okay. Well, Tommy. Cowboy Reed. you want a time? We could definitely,

like there's all types of records that we could break, dude. I assume it had to be done through the straw because we could cut this thing over and be done in two seconds. Yeah, definitely has to be through the straw. I mean, like, obviously, because this is nothing.

Okay. And you tell me to go. That's when Reed will start the timer and I will start drinking, but give you a second. Put it up to, put that little straw. Go. Nothing on his chin.

Oh, that's a weird technique. Oh my God. That is, Reed's not on his head. Oh, my God. God, dude, disgusting. Turn away. Done. Macon held up his empty Pacific cooler in 14.39 seconds.

What you said on record? Let's go, bitch. I got a want-want for you. What? The straw has to be in its plastic, still attached to the pouch. That's how the record was set. Oh, my God. So there's like a ninja thing.

Oh, yeah, we can't do this, yeah. Oh, shit. I might actually solve a shot at this. This guy's a... Did you see my technique? Yeah, it was not comfortable to look at. It was like a... You were working your hands.

Like an utter. Right? Yeah, but only like you... An utter is not... The stream goes down on an utter, not up. Right. That's right. It's an ugly scene, dude.

I'm... Hopefully I won't get to look at that back, but... Well, it's not a world record, so we probably won't make it a... It's a flavor station record for the time being. It is a flavor station. record. Are you, you're not going to participate now? The same way? Either way. You can try to beat mine or easily beat yours, dude. But I would be entertained to see you fumble with the thing. Wait, wait, wait, wait. There's got to be a technique to this. Here, you do his whole thing. I'll

do him just the drinking thing. Okay, ready? Ready, set, go. Meat hands. Go. Meet hands. He's not going to. What about that, Reed? Oh, good. 15 seconds and he's Oh, a lot of it's coming out. It's on his nose. It's dripping off his nose. Into his hand. Are you going to get that from your hand?

Done. I got the drinking in 11.22. I got. Yeah, dude. There's one thing I can do I drink a Capri son, dude, and a 40 ounceer. Everything in 25.92 seconds. I could, yo. Yo.

Yeah, we train at this. Yo, yo, yo. Okay. There's plenty of fucking records. So I was looking at this. the site here. And now I respect that. I had no idea that you had to. 14s, I've got a shot. I was right in there with the straw, not even knowing that was part of it. I've got a shot. And I had the, what was your technique? You just,

I just crunched. I just crunch it. Same way you would just crunch a juice box, dude. Most socks put on one foot in 30 seconds. Let me guess. Let me guess. Let me guess. 26? 17. The record is 28. Wow. Let's go, bitch. There's no way.

We need to have a whole bunch of different sizes lined up. That's not a record we could break. Tallest toilet paper tower in 30 seconds. So you're stacking rolls? Stack and rolls. And then you're looking for a height? How many rolls? 33.

but like you're going to have to stand on a ladder at some point yeah you got a friend don't just have to be one person can it be teamwork one person oh 22 no yeah 22 20 17 17 uh um 44 24 28 28 what are you on 28.com oh shit oh I have 29 email in my inbox right now. That's wild. Delete one. I'm at 28. Your face right now. No, I'm good.

Oh my God, John. Oh, my God. There's no people got the eye from other people in real life. Oh. I'm crying. Most money made babysitting two mid-30-year-olds. I get it. He's talking about him.

Fastest time to eat a 12-inch pizza using a knife and a fork. 12-inch pizza, okay? 17 seconds, for real. One of these records. 28 seconds. 28.28.28.28. I'm just kidding. 23.62 seconds.

I respect that. Guinness World Record for number of saltines eaten in one minute is 10. 10 saltines. 10 saltines in a minute, dude. There's no way I could be thinking of something different when you say saltine, right? Saltine.

Crackers. Saltine. Crackers. Right. White box says premium, I think. You got a whole pantry. full of them. I don't have any but that's really hard because I just get

all mealy in there. Well no, they're just dry and you could choke on a ball of saltines. Ten? Ten, dude. No, ten. Ten with no water, Reed? No water. I've tried it

before and it is difficult. I got like four down in a minute. I don't want to die. I'm not ready to die for this. Bring them on. Okay. Next week then maybe. NASCAR is implementing COVID sniffing dogs at the racetrack. What dog breeds would work for other sports,

and what would you like the dogs to sniff for in general? Racism. Bigotry. Misogyny. You know? What would it do with it once I found it? Well, they bargained. We just know, oh, that's a bigot.

I think that's what Twitch is for. I didn't have a good NASCAR one, Chris. Yeah, I don't. I didn't have one either. Hopefully one that doesn't stand in the road. Right. Fencing. I see a husky. You see a husky? Yeah. I see like a fucking poodle, something. Oh, poodle? Soccer. Standard poodle. It's all fruity. Yeah. All right. So COVID sniffing dogs for dog shows. Yeah, yeah. Ready? Yeah. Dalmatians. Because they're like cop dogs. because they're black and white like cop cars. No, they're fire engine dogs.

There's literally already a use for them. They help fire men. Well, what about fire women? Fire women, too. They help everybody. So, yeah, I mean, sure, but you've got to get them from the firehouse. Tennis?

Tennis. Oh, I have one for tennis. Bernie's Mountain Dogs, because they're fun and everybody likes tennis. Well, they also don't bark a lot, which is the reason that I picked a borzoi, one of the quietest dogs in the world. Cat like, according to Google,

perfect tennis dog. Can also snag balls, 40 miles per hour. Coming at it? Runs. That's just, I'm reading my notes. Just kidding, you know, I'm just. Snags, yeah, I guess I conflated snacks balls at 40 miles per hour.

No, no, can run 40 miles an hour. So you can also, and this could be a problem for some of the, the humans that have been employed to get the balls when people fall. But that would also be the boar's eyes job. Yeah, who gets the balls? The humans. Yeah, what are they called, though? The ball boys.

Oh. And the ball girls. What about the men and the women? Well, I don't know. I just, they're usually kids, aren't they? No. They're not kids? They got adults that snatch the balls?

Yeah. Really? Yeah. I don't watch tennis, bro. What about the people who call the lines? What are they called? Linesman. God damn it.

Why can't you say women for anything? For people. Um. You hear them? Ball boy. Linesman. Something else you said a minute ago. Mishu.

Mishogynist. Woo. Woo. Woo. I'm a misogyny sniffing dog. That's good. There is a use for him. Yeah.

I see that though. All right. So, uh, Here we go. The best weekend in sports. Enjoy the madness, folks. Where do you rank St. Patrick stay, by the way?

Bottom. Bottom. No offense to you and your people. I'm not on the sauce. I'm not Irish. I don't like it at all, at all. I respect your reasoning, but it's a shitty take.

Y'all take care.