Green Light with Chris Long - Matt Eberflus! Chicago Bears, Justin Fields & Coaching in the NFL. Diaz vs Paul & Ramirez vs Anderson, USWNT & College Sports

Episode Date: August 8, 2023

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coach about the offseason additions, bolstering of that defensive line, some of the draft picks they've hit on. Of course, they talk Justin Fields. And Coach Kieberfluse talks about the importance of communicating and working with his general manager, of course, Ryan Poles. Kyle wants to make the point that offensive linemen make the best general managers. Jury's still out. Maybe you all can comment with what you think. A PAC show outside of that. We've got Chris back in studio from Montana, and we go through plenty of topics with Macon. We do a little fight recap,

the Diaz-Paul scheduled fight, and the Anderson-Ramere is an unscheduled fight. We review both of those. We talk PAC-12, we talk the Women's World Cup. The Jacksonville Jaguars got a shiny new addition to their training facility, and Chris has a special little mailbag with a couple updates. Roth IRAs and Grubhub come up,

and then to end it, we talk Hall of Fame. We review each of the Hall of Fame speeches from the weekend and talk worse flight from the Hall of Fame game on Thursday. Y'all please enjoy. We will be back Thursday. Make sure to catch us then. It's August 8th, everybody. Scott Stapp's birthday, of course, from the band Creed. I've said this before. I don't think Creed is as bad as people think it is. I think Creed is excellent. And I'll give you three reasons why. Okay.

my sacrifice with arms wide open and higher my own prison i don't i couldn't i saw it i read it i can't place it okay creed is awesome uh check out his halftime show on thanksgiving hey uh august eighth uh again scottstaff's birthday i was going to ask you guys what's the worst band of all time not because i think Creed's bad because I think people think creed's bad and I think they get some of the shade that like nickelback should get but nickelback gets the shade anyways all you're doing is naming good bands right now okay how about how about like some of the bands that are bad I have one that I think's going to get me in some trouble because a lot of people like this band but I think fish kind of sucks god I thought you were going to say Dave Matthews because you have like family members who are employees you know

there's a lot of people that hate Dave Matthews I thought about it goes the chain saw a guy again. He hates Dave Matthews. I was just talking to somebody in a real estate office about fish. She goes to like every fish show. There are a lot of fish heads that do that. Okay. So my buddy Tom just Saturday night was at MSG to see fish. So I had a bunch of out. This is 25th anniversary of going to see fish at MSG. Every year like they they act like it's a new show, which it might be they might be play totally different songs. Well, the thing about a fish show is everybody's on so much drugs. So it is like the first time you've seen it every time.

She says to me, she says the flight's only 50 minutes and it costs about a hundred bucks. I said, yeah, but how much of the illicit drugs cost? Yeah, that's true. Followed by laughter, uproarious laughter. The scene is cool. The music just leaves a little something to be desired. But I do, don't fuck this up. I want to get Trey on the pot.

Yeah, Trey, he's one of the best guitarists in the world right now. I'm pretty neutral on fish. Like, you know, I think you got to be all in or all out, but I'm right in the middle. I'll give you one, Imagine Dragons. Yeah, I think they were unanimously agreed upon to be overrated after their halftime performance. I think it was a college football, national championship a couple years ago, when everyone realized, oh, they sound like shit when they aren't super produced. Well, let me tell you this about Imagine Dragons.

They're like Jet Ski commercial music. They're like S.B's intro music. Like, that's the purpose. They said their kids, my kids love Imagine Dragons. like if my kids had a motor vehicle and they were driving down the road they would be listening to imagine to imagine dragons they're big in that demo also i want to mention the black eyed peas mumford and sons uh anybody else read green day i think what the fuck dude super overrated fuck you read so i just saw surfs up for the first time you know surfs up um everybody knows surfs up just i hadn't watched it uh my kids wanted to watch a cartoon on a rainy day um And Welcome to Paradise was on the soundtrack, and my kids are really into the song right now. I think Dookie is one of the best albums, you know, for a place in the time, you know, ever. I can remember being 11 years old.

You remember the story? First, first day I found out that girls got periods. I also got the Weezer album, the Blue album. And then I got Dookie the same day. And I was in cafeteria with my disc man. And she told me about how she just started. of bleeding during the mile run outside it was traumatic i'll never forget opening my duckey and my weezer trying to listen to my music and learning this very disturbing thing is that is that funny

also i that reminds me of uh i had dialia dialia had a lot of dialyia what do you mean and then all the media members start laughing and they say What that's funny? What is he says that? I guess Chanho Park when he had diarrhea. Chanho Park had dialia? Yeah. I had a lot of diarrhea.

That's what you want to know? Yeah. I had a other diarrhea. Well, it's funny? I mean, save it. Yeah, Nirvana? Black Sabbath. The Eagles?

Oh, get the movie out of here. Well, that's the Hotel California, right? Yeah. Well, you'll listen to any, like all their other albums. Wait, okay, okay. It's kind of dope. And then take it easy, right? Nirvana.

But you're naming the two most popular songs, like actual name. Also, a guy from the Eagles just died. Yeah, how could you read them? You're trashing Rainey Meisers. Sorry, Randy. So here's the deal. Nirvana may be a little overrated. Like, definitely important, definitely awesome.

But people kind of put them like head, head and shoulders above the rest of the Grunge Movement, I disagree. Black Sabbath, you are smoking crack, dude. Imagine, imagine 1969 that first album comes out, Black Sabbath with the first song in the album called Black Sabbath by Black Sabbath, and it's probably the best first song I've ever heard a band come out with, the first track of their first album. And if you consider the time period that the music was coming out, it was like, This was like nothing you'd ever heard before.

I mean, so not only important, not only trailblazers, but a fucking awesome band. And then who was the third one? The Eagles. On Black Sabbath, their opening song of their next album, their second album, is Warpigs, which is one of the best covered songs ever. T. Payne just did an amazing Warpigs cover. Yeah, but that first Warpigs. Yeah, the first Warpigs is amazing, but the fact they wrote it.

Yeah. Sorry, guys. Also, August 9th, Jerry Garcia died. So I think like it went Scott Stapp was born and then like Jerry Garcia died the next calendar day. I don't know if there's some bond between those two events. But also I think it's August 9th is the day Richard Nixon resigned. The 9th actually Gerald Ford was sworn in. So they didn't waste any time.

Also August 8th, Wayne Gretzky traded to the Kings in 1988. I used to live near Luke Robatile. Oh, Luke Robatai. Robatai. Yeah. Yeah. Hockey player. That's cool.

Yeah. Okay. So you got a hello. Brian Texas. Hello. Nice. Brian with a Y. Can you imagine hollering out a call center?

And every single time you got to say, yes, it's Brian, Texas. That's Brian with a Y. It's not just every Brian with a Y who's a person. It's everybody who lives in this Brian, Texas. Yeah. Brian Texas is known for having the world's largest meatball in 2011. They're in the, they're in the Guinness Book of World Records for cooking the large.

Most meatball ever, 1,135 pounds. Big meatball. Brian Texas. They also have a federal women's prison, minimum security. Minimum security. Now I don't get that. Like, what, we're giving you a shot? Divine minimum security.

Like I understand maximum security. And I guess I understand regular security. It's like a bunch of chicks inside a baby gate. Right, right? You know? Yeah, there's some, there's some, there's some wire fencing, but it's like four foot tall. Yeah, pretty much. Like, hey, where are you going?

I'm just going to lunch. Yeah. It's the honor system. What you did was wrong. It wasn't that bad. No. Brian, Texas. Get it together.

I'm going to take a bite out of that meatball. I'll be back in 15 minutes. So Matt Eberflus is joining us. He has two cats named after characters in the movie Frozen. Okay, big bad, scary defensive coordinator background. But also like the lead here is he's a cat guy. And I always thought when you go into these meetings at the combine, you ask the guy, would you rather be a dog or a cat?

And if he says cat, he's off the board. So I didn't get to ask this question. We ran out of time. But I think it's interesting to note that Matt Eberfluse is a cat guy. He is also a fun guy to talk ball with me and Kyle. Talk to him for a while. Kyle invited himself to the facility. at the end of the interview.

So maybe we'll be going to the facility at some point. I was like waving my hands like, no, coach, I don't need to go. But Kyle, obviously, former bear was fun seeing him sign on and talk to the media people there that was setting up coach. The way this thing goes when you get an NFL coach is you sign on Zoom, there's somebody that's like the handler and they kind of give you how much time you have. You know, with coaches, you got to be careful

because they could have a team meeting coming up. And if there's anything I hate more than being late for a team meeting, it's making a coach late for a team meeting as a podcaster. So we crammed as much we couldn't in 25 minutes. We had a lot of fun with him. Here's the interview. We'll talk a little Hall of Fame on the back end here. Stick around for that.

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We hear you're a country music fan. And on this show, we do layup lines. So we pick a song at the beginning of every show. I was going to ask you, you got anything stuck in your head right now? Who are you listening to? Yeah. Any interest in selecting a tune for us? Yeah, I like it.

Right now, it's got this Stapleton thing going with me. You know, a lot of his songs, you know, Broken Halo, and then, you know, starting over. There's a bunch of things. Yep. You know, because we got a team coming up, and those will be the two that come to mind right now. So I think starting over is pretty good. Coach, you got to check out the steel drivers.

You got to get on your Spotify and go look at the steel drivers. It was stapled in before he was doing his solo act with a bluegrass band, and it's some of his best work. You might love that. So in some of the alignment on your team might appreciate it. Because they might, because, you know, I think he might have the Oxcourt at practice. How do you work that out? Kyle and I were wondering who gets to pick the music during practice?

Well, the country music piece is easy because I have once a week, I have a country music day. So I'll do Friday, like the first week it was Friday. This week it was Saturday. So but the players know that I get one day of the week. But other than that, we have a DJ out there during training camp that's mixing up the songs and doing different things there. And then during the year, we just kind of mix it up as we go during the season. Coach, it's been 30 years, man. There's a lot of young coaches that get hired and that sort of thing.

you're a young guy, but you're like an elder statesman compared to some of these new hires. Like 30 years, I know how hard it is to coach in the NFL just from seeing y'all do it. Is there a waiting game you're playing during that 30 years or was your mindset, hey, I'm going to coach the best of my abilities and take the opportunities as they come? Yeah, it really was just that. You know, I always were, my feet were there. I was working for whoever it was. if it was working for Gary Pinkle for 18 years in college

or coming to the pros, now my 14th year, I wanted to do the very best job of where I was. That could be a linebacker coach when I was with the Browns and the Cowboys, working into a defensive coordinator at the Colts for Frank Reich, just trying to be the very best for that football team. And I really didn't, you know, I interviewed for six jobs, you know,

during that time in the NFL for head jobs. And I was offered, you know, obviously this one with the bears. And that door just really just swung open for me. And it was a good match right from the beginning. And, yeah, that's how I did it. I just wanted to do the very best job I could where I was. And you're in Lake Forest now, one of Kyle's favorite places, I know. Kyle, you had a burning question for him.

Yeah, I mean, I spent probably the most formative years of my life, you know, right there on Deer Path. I used to play at the Deerpath golf course all the time. Have you been to the Deer Path golf course yet? I have not been to Deer Path in to eat. Oh, yeah. That place is really nice. You know, Fahad does a good job. He's one of the managers there and does a really good job.

And that place is awesome. But I have not golfed at the Deer Path yet. Shout out to Fahad. I'm glad you dropped his name. That's a local spot. Lake Forest is a town like none other. Can you describe to me your first kind of taste of the North Shore here as a coach? Yeah, I love it because it's easy to get around.

You know, if you stay up here and our facilities up here, it's super easy to get around. People are super nice. And then you don't have to deal with the hustle and bustle of Chicago. So it's just all ball up here, which I really love. And then when you go to games, it's exciting because you get to go to the city and, you know, and play ball down there at Soldier Field. So I think it's a really good setup for the players.

Y'all coaches have spent a lot of time all over the place. You know, you've been a bunch of places, Toledo, Ohio, Indianapolis, out in Missouri. You know, I spent some time in St. Louis on the other side of the state. What's the best coaching lifestyle place to live? I mean, you know, I bet Lake Forest is number one, but was there any other that stood out? Yeah, Lake Forest is number one because, like I said, it's easy to get around. I can get to work in 12 minutes. It's my shortest commute that I've ever had. Oh, ball. You know, typically there are 30, 35 minutes somewhere in there. But this is really short. So, yeah, this is definitely number one. I would say number two.

two for me probably is going to be the Colts, you know, that was, that was a defensive coordinator there. I really enjoyed my time with Frank. You know, I really respect him. And then right behind that would be the Dallas Cowboys. I really respect the Jones family. They run a first class organization. And, you know, so I really like the city of Dallas. It was really cool to live down there. We had a really nice spot that my family stayed. Yeah, I like that too. One thing that stands out to me about this team is there's so much to look forward to. And obviously, you're a golfer. You know the difference between missing a green and finding a green and regulation

and what that can do for your total score. And I'm looking at in terms of wins and losses, your team this year, which group stands out to you the most that's going to make that leap this year? What can fans look forward to in a specific position group? Yeah, I'll probably do too. I would say that the front seven on defense is totally. changed. And I think that matters. Obviously, when you're trying to affect the quarterback and you're trying to do a good job against the run game. So I really think the D-line is going to be a little bit

of a change because, you know, we have billings in there. We got Justin Jones. We got two young rookies that we signed, you know, and then we just signed Yannick and we got a couple other guys. Obviously, we got Walker and Green, you know, those guys at defensive end. And then in the middle of our defense, I think we're stronger there. We got Tremaine Edmonds, you know, from Buffalo and then T.J. Edwards, he's a real good, instinctive linebacker. So feel good about those guys. And then we have a young secondary. So those guys are hitters, you know, and they like to play the game and they like

the ball hawks. So those guys are fun to watch and they're growing the four eyes. And then offensively, what's probably going to be the biggest change is that you'll see is the chemistry between Justin Fields and the skill that we have. You know, the tight ends, you know, we have three tight ends that are probably you probably wouldn't find three better in the league. You know, when you get Cole and Bobby and then now Mercedes, the big dog in there. So that's a pretty good dudes.

And then you got really the receiving corner, you know, the addition of DJ, you know, Mooney, Claypool, you know, those are three good skill sets there that we have. So the continuity of that between Justin and the skill set that we have is growing and is improving as we go. and it'll improve during the course of the year. It's got to be an ongoing process. And as far as youth goes,

I love the darn out right pick. I loved him coming out. I played with his veteran, Trey Smith in Kansas City, who's now an all pro guard. He said, you got to watch this guy coming out darned out right. So when you picked him, I knew it was the right pick,

and I'm glad you touched on the tight ends. What kind of role have these elder statesmen played in the development of this tackle when it comes to pre-snap and post-snap recognition? Yeah, it's, It's really good. Well, two things, really, because, you know, we do have, you know, Cody, obviously, you know Cody, and he does a great job of working with those guys. Lucas Patrick's another veteran we have in there. Nate Davis is another guy at the guard spot. That's going to be, you know, right next to Darnell. And I think that's an important piece for those guys to work together and the continuity of that. You know, so those guys are doing a great job with that. And really the second thing is we have Braxton Jones, who's that left tackle, who just went through what Darnell is going through, you know, just one year prior to this. So I think his experiences, along with the veteran experiences, are really going to, you know, be around darn out to really have a good year.

And you know what kind of talent he is. He's super talented. You know, what a great athlete for that size. And he's got, you know, great anchor. So we're excited to see him. And again, he hadn't played a game yet, but we like where he is. And he's going to grow. As you guys know, your work year, you grow a lot.

Yeah. And second year, you grow a lot. those first two years, you make a big growth spurt on both those two years. How much do you look at Darnow Wright's tape against like a Will Anderson? You know, like there's a, it's very variable. The rushers and tackles that guys are playing and vice versa as you as you prep for the draft. How much weight does something like that match up carry? Because I thought he did a great job.

No, it does. You do have to weigh that, you know, because that's real. You know, those are those are not NFL rush yet, but they're really close to it. And so you can really see, you know, when he blocks different skill sets, and certainly those NFL pass rushers are, you know, are different. As you know, there's a different skill set there. Guys all rush the pass for differently. And you got to rely on your fundamentals and technique.

And you've got to have talent. And he has those. And he's refining his fundamentals and technique as we speak. Did you have an intentionally like vet mindset when it came to addressing some of the biggest needs this offseason? Because, you know, I looked at two things. I look at, hey, getting some more weapons for, Justin Fields, obviously, you opt to grab DJ more early in the draft via trade. And then on the defensive side of the ball, you know, you need some pass rush infusion.

Your safety going back there and sacking the quarterback, that's good news. You want a guy like that in the back end, but you don't want him to lead your team in sacks. And I know that was an area you wanted to address, especially being a defensive guy. You bring in one of my favorite players in Gakwe, who all he's done has had eight and a half sacks a year. And as a pass rusher, I know how hard that is to do. It was confounding to me that he sat there for so long. So I guess my question would be, you know, like, is that intentional? Like, hey, we're trying to win now.

We need to bring guys in with experience. Or was it just a byproduct of the evaluation of the players? Yeah, great question. Really, it's a plan. You know, this thing's going to be built the right way. Ryan and his scouting staff do an excellent job, working with the coaches. The coaches do a great job.

the scouts defining exactly what we're looking for in the role that each guy is going to play on our football team. So it's definitely intentional. We know we've had two draft classes, you know, where we added 21 new players and that we had a massive free agency class this year. I think it's 14 or 15 more than that. Yeah. Two guys. So you think about that in terms of the roster. It's a whole new football team.

But adding the right kind of guy is so important to us because culture matters here. And really, he has to check the first box for us. And that does he love football? Does he demonstrate that every day? And that's the first box that everybody who walks through the door has to check. And all those additions that we had, either through the draft or through free agency, all those guys love ball. And they just like to compete, love to compete, love football.

And, you know, from there, obviously you're dealing with, you know, like you said, it's intentional to bring in these veteran pieces, you know, for this year because they complement our young pieces that we have. And it's exciting to bring them together, too. Obviously, you had a lot of talk about the linebacker position with the decision on Roquan Smith. And, you know, depending on who you talk to, they can see the way the math works out and they think it's a good move. Or, you know, Tremaine Edmund's really good player, very long guy.

And, you know, one thing that stood out to me and looking at your resume and the players that you've coached is, you know, Darius Leonard, Shaq Leonard in Indy. I mean, not the heaviest guy, but a guy that's got great wingspan, can disrupt the football in the air, good in coverage. Is that something that you kind of model your linebackers after certain traits, or do you just look at it like, hey, the linebacker position, it depends on the individual? Or do you have, like, kind of a trait, a trait cheat sheet, so to speak? Yeah, so really the thing that we look at is we love the length, okay? We look at, you know, lean mass. We look at those types of things because that really determines how the player is going to operate.

And the reason we love length so much is because we believe that it helps a linebacker to create more takeaways. So he's in windows. He's closer to the ball to create a cause fumble. He's closer to it to intercept the ball, you know, to elevate and close windows off and really do a great job with, you know, recovering fumbles. because, you know, you're just longer and you're able to create more plays that way. And then twofold, you're able to stay alive in the play because, you know, we teach the, you know,

techniques that we teach these guys. You have to be long to be able to keep these linemen off of us. To be able to get to the ball, to make the plays. And we always teach these guys, you know, and boil it down as coaches because that's our job to be able to teach them their key reads and their fundamentals so they can play super fast. And that's what we want to do.

And that's what we did with Shack. Leonard and Shaq did himself obviously and he's a heck of a player and I'm looking forward to him having a great year this year and I wish him the best of luck because he's one of my guys but back to Tremaine Tremaine's doing a really good job of buying into that and he certainly has all those traits and we're looking for a big year. When it comes to the nickel position you're somebody who's seen it kind of all you've seen this whole this whole metamorphosis from like guys you know being in base constantly big linebackers, the whole thing to, we got to draft three starting caliber

corners at some point. We need these guys on our team. Like, at what point did the game change to where you had to not only prioritize the nickel position, but then dive into what makes a nickel good? And what is it that makes a nickel good? Yeah. You know, so we have always coveted a nickel because, you know, our base system goes all the way back to Coach Dungey.

Yeah. With the Tampa Bay Bucks and Ronde-Barre. So Derek Brooks, you know, and then Warren Sapp, you know, and then Simeon, you know, so it all goes back to those guys. And then when it came to, you know, Chicago, obviously you had, you know, different nickels in there, but she still had three technique. You had the middle linebacker. He had the will linebacker and you had all those guys. But we've always coveted those three positions, nickel, three technique, you know, wool linebacker. That to us is a very important piece. And the nickel for us does a lot of things. As Ronde did, as you know, getting inducted, you can see the skill. You can see the skill. You know, set, you know, the 20 plus interceptions, 20 plus sacks, you know, the ability to create from that position, because you're really in the thick of it, you know, you're lined up to the passing strength, you know, you're always going to be in the thick of the passing game. You're going to be in the thick of the run game, you know, with, you know, 80% of the game being played in nickel defense now, you know, it's a big part of it. And so those guys are

asked to do a lot of things, right? Blitz, you know, we play a variation of coverages, so he has a lot of different techniques that he does. That guy should be a lightning bolt. This guy should be a person that is an electrifier in terms of multiplier of your football team with the plays that he's making. And Kyler Gordon for us, you know, is that guy. You know, he's a guy that is super talented and he's growing. You know, obviously we had the most rookie snaps of anybody in the NFL last year.

And he was one of those guys. He was a big part of that. And he got a lot of growth and a lot of experience last year. And that's going to pay dividends this year. Coach, one game that we all watched last year where you guys are on that big stage, I know it's like to be on a team where you don't get the prime time opportunities because you're building something. You'll get those down the road.

But the New England game, 3314, I know, you know, it's one victory in a season, and the season is not the way you want it to turn out. But I know about those moments where you're like, hey, we might have something here. And I wonder what your impressions of that game were when you got on the beach. bus and was there a light bulb that went off for any of the guys to say, hey, it might not be next week, but it could be, you know, down the line later in the month. It could be next year. This is who we can be. Yeah, that was an exciting game for us for sure. Like you said, it was only one game, but it was exciting because we had it on Monday night. And, you know, the guys really came together, you know,

and we talked about last year how difficult it was. You know, we talked about building, you know, the championship habits it takes to get the job done. And the guys bought into that. And what I'm most proud about for them last year is that they held to that the entire year. And that's why we were in every single game. You know, we lost those games by one score, eight of them. You know, so adding the talent and keeping that championship work habits at weekend and week out, those are all going to pay dividends.

But to go back to that game, it was a fun game because, to me, it was like almost a glimpse into how it should be and how it's going to be. So we're excited to work towards that. And the NFL is hard. You know, it's a difficult league. And we're going to have to bring our best every single week to challenge our opponent. Well, it's just one of those games where you're like, okay, they're going up there in New England. It's Bill Belichick.

They got weather. I've been up in New England where Bill's pouring water on the ball and shit like that. Like, this is their backyard. And it's what they love doing, playing in the weather. And playing on the road and winning on the road is such a great experience for a young team. I thought that was great and a great experience for Justin Fields because he was really good. And I thought Luke Getsey had a great game that evening. And I thought he did a nice job last year.

Let's talk about, I think we broke a record here waiting the longest to ask you about Justin Fields in an interview. But he's a guy that we both like. We've never jumped off the bandwagon. What was your favorite play that Justin Fields had last year? It might have been a little thing. It might have been a big highlight, real thing. What was your favorite Justin Fields moment? Yeah, there was a lot of them.

You know, some of those long runs that he broke out was just, that was most amazed by those. You know, I didn't know that when you, you know, you guys know that you have this thing called game speed, right? You know, time speed and game speed. And he's as fast as he needs to be, you know. So that's exciting to watch. But really just to see the growth, you know, of the, you know, him really grow in the offense through last year into the offseason and now work the spot where he is now. And it's really exciting to be able to see him grow and trust, you know, and work with the offensive staff, with his teammates, with the receivers, with the skill set, and just continuing to watch that grow. And again, we have a we have a long way to go. We're only through the, you know, first part of training camp. And we're preparing for that first preseason game and then working to our first game. But, you know, the progress is there and we're excited where it is.

How do you, I mean, I know Justin's one of these guys and he's old school in a way. which is why I really like him, because he seems like a great kid, humble, the whole thing. But the new school aspect of it is, like, now these guys have their own gurus. They have quarterback coaches that they work with in the offseason. And I'm just curious to ask a head coach, like, how do you and Luke make sure that everybody's on the same page? Because, you know, when you leave, you might be building great habits, but unless Luke and you know what those habits are, it can be disruptive to the process. how do you guys stay on that same page? Yeah, I just think it's communication.

You know, you are just, you know, open, up front, and honest as that player coach relationship. I think that the relationship between Justin and I is huge because it's the quarterback and head coach. And as important as the offensive coordinator being on the same page with him. And we just have the same, you know, mentality that, hey, everything's up on the table. We're going to communicate that way. And it's always going to be that way. and we're never going to catch anybody off guard. And we're always going to be forthright with our communication.

Talking about communication, Ryan Poles is a guy that I got to meet while I was in Kansas City. I had broken my legs. I was in the training room and in the weight room a lot during camp. And I got to know Ryan. And I didn't realize at the time that he was going to be headed to Lake Forest. But, you know, seeing his face a lot recently, how's the communication been with Ryan Poles and what's it like to have an offensive lineman be a general manager? Yeah, it's really been good.

So we spend time and attention, you know, making sure that we're always communicating and building our relationship. You know, so we started to do things together as, you know, my wife and his wife was a couple going out to dinner, going to various places, you know, when we're at the owners meetings and that type of stuff. And then really building that relationship, you know, him and I golf several times in summer. We thought that was an important piece to be able to spend time outside of work, you know,

in the cart together, talking ball sometimes, you know, talking just about life or talking about our families and just enjoying the game, you know, golf out there together. So that was really cool to be able to do that. We're going to continue to do that. And your second part of your question is, it's really cool to have an offense alignment because when I was playing as a linebacker in college, the guys that hung out was, were always the O lineman and D lineman. That's gravitated. So it's pretty cool to hang out with an ex-O-Lyman. lineman because he sees the game from the front, you know, and obviously he sees it, you know, all over, you know, front and back. But he loves to have the trenches and that worked out.

And he believes, and you win up front and you win with the offense and defense aligns. And we're building that. Again, it can't be built all in one year and one day and all those things. And he's working diligently to do that. And he's done an awesome job with these first two draft classes in this last free agency class. So it's, it's super. important to remember that Patrick Mahomes isn't the only guy on the Chiefs. Creed Humphrey's playing center, Tray Smith, Joe Tunney, Orlando Brown last year. These are the guys that make the thing go. So I'm glad that.

It's nice to have one in a suit. I'm glad that there's a 300-pounder in a tailored suit and be a GM. It is it nice to have a GM that can break up fights in training camp. I heard Ryan Poles had to get in between a couple of players. That's things happened. It was interesting because I know because I stand behind the offense, right? And there was a long ball, right? So the ball was 25 yards down the field,

and Ryan just happened to be there, luckily. And he was able to fuse that situation pretty good. And then I went over and talked to the guys afterward, between the next periods and said, hey, if you do that again, I'm going to throw you out of practice because that's what's going to happen in the game. Yeah.

We can't have that type of behavior. And the guys were good, the rest of the practice. And they were executed and played with good self-consum. control and that's what you need to do during the game. I used to have to take that long walk from the Peyton Center holding a DeLyman's hand and go to lunch. Actually, one of our podcast co-hosts and I got kicked out of practice and we had to make that walk. Yeah, yeah. Hey, one more minute with coach. I've got two quick questions for you. One, can you give a little love to my guy, Ian Yates Cunningham,

my college teammate who I think does a fantastic job and loves working with Ryan Poles and you. And, you know, He interviewed for the job in Arizona, and he said, hey, I want to stay here. Yes. Because you guys are building something special. Can you talk to people about Ian and what goes on behind the scenes? It's not just Ryan. It's a whole group. Yeah, it really is.

Ian is wonderful. He is a great, you know, teammate to have, you know, for our franchise. And, man, he is so smart. What a great talent evaluator he is. But more importantly, the person man that he is. He treats people with respect, holds himself. self-accountable and others accountable. And he is right there with Ryan, you know, shoulder-to-shoulder making great personnel

decisions during the course of the year. And Ryan really leans on him on a day-to-day basis. He's great to have around. I'll throw ideas to him because he's got a wealth of experience and he's been on championship, you know, organizations. And he's just been great these last few years. And we're so fortunate that he decided to stay around. Only guy that called me in free agency in 2017.

I don't have my second ring if it's not for Ian. Coach, we wanted to say thank you for the time and good luck this season. We hope you come back after a big win. And Kyle's going to get me down there to see a Bears game. We're going to come out midweek and come bother Ryan. So we'll see out there, Coach, if you let us on property. All right, coach. Until then, bear down.

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I did. And what was one of the shit? Let me be among the first to say, welcome home. Thank you. I appreciate it. What was one of the first things you did? You got right back into your summer activities, right? Oh, one, I listened to the bugs.

I miss the bugs, man. You know, my kids don't get it. We got out of the car. The first thing I said is like, guys, listen. They're like, what? I'm like, there's no bugs in Montana. You listen at night. There's nothing.

It's like you hear a pin drop, which is nice. You can hear the lake lapping up on the shore and that sort of thing. But I miss the cicadas, the crickets, the lightning bug. They're called poppers, frogs, tree poppers? Yeah. I miss them all. The first thing I did is I got on the river. So I was supposed to go with my buddy Tom,

who was working on one hour's sleep from his fist show. I also reached out to Macon. Okay. Was I before or after Tom? You were after, but Tom and I were like the genesis of this trip. We were supposed to go, you know, like Meg doesn't like me going to the movies or restaurants alone,

let alone like a river alone. But I'm perfectly happy to go alone. The thing about going alone anywhere, which I love, is the pros and cons are easy. Right? Like the pros, the pro part is easy. There's no other people. The cons, harder to pick up on like fine print would be, hey, there's going to be a massive lightning storm when you go. And there's going to be, you know, nobody on the side of the river to tell you it's going to be okay.

Because, I mean, it's all the same because they're isolated thunderstorms. The thing about isolated thunderstorms is like they could pop up anywhere. I mean, you know, you want to have a weather app. Like, the weather's right up there. Like, and I'm terrified of lightning because I've been on the river before. where lightning hit the river. And it feels like you're in a bathtub and they throw a tiny toaster in there. Like tiny toaster.

Yesterday I was worried about getting hit with the big toaster. And so I got on the bank of the river and I waited it out. The thing about like country folk on tubes is they're like the river's flight attendants. If they're okay, you're probably okay. If they're going about their business, if they look nervous, like it's time to start worrying about it. These Buckingham County folks, these Scottsville folks were mostly, going down the river but there were a few of them who were getting off on the side of the bank

and so was I and I waited and probably like a bed of poison ivy we'll find out the thing about leaving a river trip early is the trip doesn't end if you know what I mean but yeah it was like it was a crazy day I'm happy to be home I'm happy to get back on the river and I'm happy to be back

at work with you guys man you guys have fucked with the studio a little bit like the sight lines are better move some things around some things around we made it better yeah It was a good break. It was a good break. It's good to be back with you. Good to be back with you.

It was a particularly combative weekend, both in settings where you'd expect it in settings where you might not. Where would you like to start on the fight side of things? Dude, there were some fights this weekend. It's funny because I know you're not into the fights, but. But I watched the highlights. But you watch the highlights. There was a time on this podcast where you're like,

I'm not watching any fights. So this is like, I appreciate you. Yeah. A lot of progress. you yeah um you had the tim anderson fight um and it was funny because i was getting ready for the jake paul nate dyes fight and i'll get to that in a second if Nate daz is on tv like i'm watching um and i had nothing to do so i ordered that fight but but leading up to it i saw a tweet about tim anderson and jose ramirez with a boxing glove and i know

Tim Anderson's had a rough year and I was like, is he an undercard? Like, did I miss the, like, you know, you order the thing at like seven o'clock. And I'm like, is Tim Anderson fighting right now? Lo and behold, I turn on the, uh, the X machine and I'm seeing a highlight of him going fisticuffs, like old school fisticoves with Jose Ramirez. He didn't like the way he tagged him, tagged him a little too forcefully. I saw a tag just on the backside that wasn't very forceful. But what Jose said afterwards is that Tim's just disrespecting the game in general. In general. Generally disrespecting the game.

He might not like, you know, all these baseball purists are like huge fans of Jose Ramirez today. But yeah, like a lot of people were very reactive here. I mean, here's the thing about a fight. Anything can happen. You know, if we fought and you caught me on my carotid artery sinus where Tim Anderson got caught, all bets are off. Yeah. And that's the thing.

Like my only critique for Tim Anderson would be like if you're going to go, uh, you know, buy the book boxing and put your dukes up like that. Like keep the guard up. Yeah. Like there's two kinds of fights, right? There's the melee where it's like it's not a boxing match. And I think what Tim Anderson got caught doing was he thought he was in a boxing match and it was a melee. And like some of the things that happened after he threw the first punch kind of obscured his vision. And out of nowhere, Jose Ramirez, there was a haymaker and hits him on. You know, knee benders or jawbreakers. That's what we used to say in the D-Line room,

because our D-Line coach is a big fight fan. And he used to say, hey, you hit that carotid artery. And so every time I see somebody get hitting that little button there, what happens for people who haven't got hit in the jaw before is there's a sinus there, and it shuts down the blood flow to your brain. So it's not like Tim Anderson has a choice. It's like, am I going to stay up or stay down? People were asking me if he had a glass jaw.

I don't know that he had a glass draw. I got hit in the right space. It's like in a video game when you hit a final ball. in the exact right place. Like that's what happened at Tim Anderson. I'm not saying you can or can't fight. I'm just saying I'm not going to judge him too much for getting knocked out. And it didn't help.

I think his teammate inadvertently helped him a little bit because his team was trying to pull Ramirez back as Ramirez was swinging and ended up pulling him back far enough for Ramirez's right hook to catch him right, you know, in the cheek. It would have hit him like probably in the shoulder or something. And he takes the gloves off. I mean, you got to do it's not like hockey gloves. you gotta take the single glove off. And yeah, he's got his guard up.

He hits him with the right cross. But he doesn't hit him. It was a great duck by Ramirez twice. Yeah. I think Tim misses twice before he gets hit. The best part about the whole thing is Tom Hamilton, the Guardian's radio announcer's call where he immediately is like, Down goes Anderson.

Down goes Anderson. That was a great call. Which is, of course, the callback to Down Goes Frazier, Howard CoSell to be able to do that. How about our I'm saying, all right. Yeah, they, um, Oh, yeah, the hump backed up like he was Mills Lane. They threw up their fists and he was like, no problem. I want to see Jose Ramirez fight Jake Paul.

Honestly, that would be maybe better than Nate Diaz. So the fight, I ordered it earlier in the evening. And it's 12, 23 at night. And I'm trying to figure out what I'm doing awake leading up to this fight. Like, it's even worse than boxing. You've got to wait a long time. And I'm sitting there at the laptop. My wife's nursing June and walks out.

He's like, what are you watching? And what I realize in that moment is really hard to explain what the fuck this is. You know, I'm like, well, it's a boxing match, but like one of the guys' boxes, the other guy's not a boxer, and the advantage is XYZ, and the rounds are different and the whole thing, which is why Nate Diaz, I think, takes a fight like this and asks for more rounds because he wanted to wear Jake Paul out. Nate Diaz does not look like a boxer. Like, he doesn't turn his punches over, nothing like that.

Well, and Jake keeps on picking MMA guys that are not traditional. known as strikers well and that's what he's doing and everybody knows the game and like when jake paul first came out i was really skeptical of the guy like i was like you know that that that that forbidden forest thing like the youtube stink the whole thing and all he's done over the last couple years he's not been afraid of a challenge now albeit these are like fixed fights in a way but just to get out there and fight in front of millions of people and maybe get your your bell rung your clock clean like that takes a lot and so i got to tip my cap for from a business perspective like making the money he's made growing this thing the way he has but also just putting himself

out there like i know some people probably don't like jake paul i'm pretty neutral on the guy but like as far as what he's gone out and done i'm impressed um you know and here's what they figured out if people will bet on a good fight they might bet on if a fight will be good or not because that's essentially what I'm doing with $60. I'm making a bet. The odds are longer that this is going to be fun. And I think that's what they figured out. Like, that's all I was doing.

I was gambling with my time. They have all the showmanship stuff down, like arriving on a tank. Yeah, dude. Come on. I'm more of a M4 Sherman guy. Okay. But like, but that was, that was cool. Here's the thing.

Jake Paul is hosting a really successful podcast, basically. where he has like guests that are the center of attention. They're really famous, but they're speaking their second language. So he ends up looking really good. Like that's what this model is, like to put it into podcasting sense. And it's pretty impressive. I've been impressed with it. And he also had to fight like the most popular kid in school.

That's kind of what that was. And on top of that, the most popular kid in school was just fucking around. Like I don't think Nate Diaz trained too hard for this fight. Very cavalier attitude in the ring. I wrote that down here. Very cavalier attitude from Diaz. He weighed in at, at, at, he weighed in in jeans. Okay, like the guy, our boy Chris Allen here locally had a great tweet.

He was like, Nate Diaz looks like he, he's been smoking marlbril menthols to get ready for the fight, which I said, like, easy. But like, Jake Paul, I don't know if you guys heard this post-fight, like he's got. getting booed and he's like, boo if you're a virgin. And immediately I was like, that's the dumbest thing I've ever fucking heard. Got them. But then people stop booing. Could you imagine if people are booing you and you're like, cheer if you like America? You know, like he would have had them by the ball. So I tip my cap, Jake Paul for the whole thing.

278 punches thrown in the undercard fight that I watched with two ladies. It was Heather Hardy and Amanda Serrano. Heather Hardy, I have never seen anybody get hit this much in a boxing match. Like, I thought they were gonna stop the fight. Obviously, it's a YouTube fight, so like they're not thinking the same way that they would in professional boxing.

This chick's chin is a 99. It was insane. My head hurt watching this fight. And then after the fight, Amanda Serrano, they're interviewing her and she's going off in this tangent about like, women in boxing and martial arts and like we need to take this thing by storm and the announcer who's a man his response is amen guys uh what do you think about you know the next fight and

i'm thinking of myself like fuck man uh i just thought it was a funny thing the uh the the fight was cool it was worth the money uh i did enjoy it and it's something to talk about today i'm not going to say i'm going to watch all these fights but But I'm going to occasionally give Jake Paul $60. It's a mass world. Yeah, you love that interview. He just discovered the James Brown interview where he was all zooted on network news.

He had the driving gloves and was coked out of his mind. What else, man? We got some other stuff in the sports world. Soccer loss. Yeah, green light to Carly Lloyd. She was right. She nailed it from Jump Street. And we, so much for all those think pieces about how Carly Lloyd was being all too political and not patriotic enough for the squad that was going to get it together.

They didn't really get it together. Yeah, but if Carly Lloyd had shit on the men's team, everybody would have been like great. They're not good enough. But she knew. She was the only one who didn't kneel however many years ago with everybody else. Well, maybe she was just analyzing some ball. Maybe she knows ball. Oh, she didn't kneel.

He's the only one who didn't kneel. Yeah. They were trying to, and she's a commentator on Fox Sports. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, where else she going to be? That's who's broadcasting the damn games. But yeah, so they lost in PKs to Sweden. That's not only did the keeper Nair make a shot in the shootout.

Do we say shootout? Yeah. You just say kicks. she uh she basically saved that that goal i mean that ball should so why can soccer have shootout and the red river rivalry has to be the red river rivalry maybe because in other countries they don't have the gun problem that we have i guess so i don't know but hey i know i know i need to tickle the twine every time but it feels like the ball should have to go in a little more than that hell of an effort from from there but the u.s had two kicks to win it there cowboy frankly if if if you're

So speedy. If you're speedier than every other team, if you're the best team in the world, uh, make more runs, score more goals. He didn't score any goals. Trump said the USA is going to hell. Is that right? That was his tweet in response. He seemed legitimately excited this team lost. I mean, the X-Ap is going off right now. Yeah, it was, um, there were a number of players that were, Megan Rapino did not, uh, she was not represented well. She did not cover herself in glory.

Nope. Not at all. And, uh, I will say, Alexei Lalas had a tweet that was saying essentially the women's national team is not is is unlikable to a large portion of America America. Alexi Lalas is unlikeable to a large portion of America. I don't know if you guys follow that. Did you guys get up and watch that's true. He's not likable. No.

No, I mean, and I've said before that he does a good job on the show and then I started watching the show more. Yeah. But yeah, no, I didn't wake up. And there's nothing wrong with not watching the women's world cup. No. You know, like, you don't have to watch the women's World Cup. It's good that people are excited about it, but.

It was perfect for me and got to catch, like, the last 10 minutes of regulation. And that's a nice thing about soccer. You could tune in for the last 10 minutes, and nothing has happened. Nothing has happened. Like, things almost happened. Yeah. But nothing has happened. Nothing is really happened.

Hey, credit to me when we were playing Vietnam was about 9 o'clock in night. I texted. I said, a game is passed number 13 by. That's Alex Morgan. All right? She, she's 34, you know, just because she's a, she's a sensation. She was once a sensation doesn't mean we need to run her out there for 90 minutes every game. When we got a lot of young talent on the squad.

Well, that's the thing about, you know, a four-year split or a two-year split or a three-year split. Like, it's easy to see the decline with players that are playing every year in front of the public. But like, when these gals take a couple years off, like, you have no idea how close that ledge is. And, you know, another thing is, like, Julia, her. just had a baby recently. You know, like, that's another thing that always blew me away about women's sports at the highest level is, like, these are the Michael Jordans of their sport. And, you know, like, you have to put your family or your plans for a family aside for an

undetermined amount of time. I mean, like, that's just a wild deal. So, you know, hats off to these, to these ladies. Oh, to the ladies. They're mostly, they're mostly fucking awesome. Like every couple years, they give us a big source of pride. Like losing once to Sweden, maybe I'm not as passionate as some soccer fans, but it doesn't get my goat the same way that it does other people.

Yeah, I guess it's just because we were back-to-back champs. Probably. Yeah, it's like the Virginia thing. It's like when Virginia won the national championship, after that, like, you know, losing to Ohio, not as big a deal. Losing to whoever we lost to this year, I've already forgotten. Furman. Furman.

See, I forgot. Oh, also the Pac-12 thing. Pack 12. Mountain West for Oregon and Washington State, they're the last ones left at the party. They're used to 30 mill a year and TV money. They're not going to get that in the mountain west. So I just wish we could fast forward 10 years. So it's all settled as settled as it's going to be. We're doing the pro sports model where you just have a couple of conferences and then a bunch of smaller divisions. We're going to be right back where we started before long. Well, maybe a little bit long.

It's one of those things where, you know, when Russ. Rutgers goes to the Big Ten, when the SEC changes, when, you know, when interleague play starts in major league baseball, when divisions change in football. Like, you grow up watching a certain division, it totally changes. I'm sure there's other, like the playing game. Yeah, it's not. Except the NFL tried to keep the rivalries intact. Like Dallas shouldn't really be in the NFC East, but they had that rivalry with Washington. They didn't want to get rid of that, whereas this destroys some of those rivalries. And it doesn't, it destroys the Rose Bowl. Like, as we know it, you know, you're going to have, like, long flights.

Imagine being Rutgers going to Brentwood to play a game. Imagine what about all the other sports? Like, what about volleyball? That aren't flying charter planes. Bro, they're going to be on Spirit Airlines. And even those football equipment truck drivers. Oh, my God. You know, for a big 10 game, you know, Michigan, say, you know, Northwestern, they leave on Thursday.

That's a great point. Now they're leaving the day they're going from where they played to the next place. But if you're the equipment guy that pulls that long trip. like you're probably okay because the alternative is like being at work yep right you know like i'll drive to brentwood yeah you know like stop three times pick up a couple lot lizards our guys our guys when we play i wonder if equipment guys pick up lot lizards that you know like if the lot lizards are like there's the the allied shipping truck and then there's there's there's uh ruckers football like that's that that's i'm going to that truck you know i don't know just a thought i i remember

When we played Oregon and USC and UCLA, our equipment truck would leave, I think, the Sunday before the Saturday game. Do you think Lot Lizards prefer another term? Probably. I'd imagine so. Yeah. Uh-huh. Prefer hooker. What?

I don't know. Virginia, going to the Big Ten maybe at some point? I think Virginia and UNC are married. How about the thing that I hate about our... reputation saving our bacon. Right. You know, like the thing I hate about Virginia's reputation is that we're just this academic which is kind of what we are. With a lot of great Olympic sports.

Yeah. And but in football it's like that, that kind of like academic blue blood sensibility has gotten in the way of us taking the next step at various junctures. And now I'm looking at this move and I'm like, yeah, I'd love to get picked up in the raft. You know, like women and children first. This is the Titanic. The ACC is sinking. The PAC 12 sink in.

The SEC is like a black hole. You know, it's like everybody, you go there and you, you disintegrate. You know, like it's like the end of the line. I'm glad we're not going to the SEC. Well, who knows? Yeah, well. I was joking earlier about the PAC Four Alliance, but Pete Thamels tweeted that the ACC is in talks with Cal and Stanford.

So this is all becoming rapidly becoming the stupidest thing. And Florida State, too, complaining because they won't out of the ACC because they think they deserve more of the TV money and they probably do ACC is going to more of this like performance-based incentive kind of deal if you're good at basketball and football you get more of the revenue but that doesn't touch the TV money on the TV deal is also in place until 2036 so yeah they'd have to do a lot of suing unless the conference 2036 or the NCAA it's a hundred and twenty-dollar exit fee so you got to have that money and you've got to get through the

the litigation. Yeah. Yeah. The LivTor. But the Big Ten could do right now is they could split at, I think 16 teams is what they're at. They could split the Big Ten into the 18. It's going to be 18. Yeah. I believe it's where we're going next.

But, you know, if it's just stated at 16, you could do the PAC 12 side of it and the Big Ten proper side of it. And maybe that would work out. But I think this thing's going to change and change and change until it explodes. I think they're like 69-ish power five teams.

Get that number to 80, have five, 16-team megac conferences. It's all the same stuff, you know? It's going to take us a while to get there with a lot of stupidity in the middle. Okay. How about the Oregon? He's one of the presidents on their board, but he joined the Zoom call announcing that Oregon was going to, you know, switch conferences.

He joined from the golf course and then kept his video on while he was playing gaw he did at george w bush you know and he was making an announcement and then now watch this drive so he's on playing golf the whole time i don't know why he didn't just you know turn his camera off but maybe he just wanted to show everybody that they're more important things to do red light playing golf really nice successful first round second round everything off the hazel is what they called yeah i almost struck my uh my brother-in-law who was about 10 yards away but he was parallel to me like hit it directly sideways and i ended up knocking the hubcap off the golf cart couldn't get it back on i mean we handed it back to the folks like sorry they're like oh no it's all

good it's like really it's broken that's even tougher than hitting someone with like a foul ball over that net that's supposed to protect all foul balls i mean like that's impressive thank you uh i want to play you yeah can we do a match sure that'd be great yeah yeah like youtube and shit yeah yeah okay cool All right. In other sports news, the Jacksonville Jaguars have a hydration toilet. Do you see this? No.

So I just asked Sark about this last week. We had a Sarkeesian on. And we were talking about like the old piss chart at the, the Herman Piss chart back in Texas. I was wondering if they still have the Piss chart. Everybody had the Piss chart back in the day. In 2008, we had the thing on the wall. And it was like, if you have brown pee, it's like,

Like, you know, you're letting your teammates down. I'm like, yeah, well, you're also going to die. You know, it's not just that simple. They have an actual technology in Jacksonville, where if you pee into the urinal, it tells you if you're in trouble or not. And I think it's great. I saw PFT commenter tweet earlier today that he'd like to piss in that urinal. Well, add me to that list.

And I actually played for Doug Peterson. I want to get down there and take a leak in that urinal. Doug Peterson. Yeah. I wonder if it identifies the play. or buy their pee and sends that data to like the training staff yeah it could have all i mean it's like this is like uh probably got plug in like the last four your social before you start peeing so they know it's you no they probably face scan you yeah or wean scan you wean scan you remember

covid 19 they could kind of invasion of privacy could uh they could they could they could check from poo to see if there was a problem remember this like in college dorms they could check the poo to see if there's a A COVID problem. Really? I swear this was the case. Really? Okay. All right.

Maybe it was a fever dream I had. Good for that, good for that urinal salesman, though, who sold the urinals to the Jaguars, whoever they are. Yeah. He's got to be the most expensive urinals. Yeah, I mean, he's got this unit. I've got this great unit. I think you guys and just sold them on the P chart. Look at this unit.

Yeah. Yeah. Like, no, we're not, we're not, it's not Nick Foles anymore. We're talking about the toilet. Look at this unit. All right. So, yeah, like Nick walks up to the, you don't even have to tell us it's you.

These Nick Foles jokes, they're going to go for years. I mean, like, it gives me a solid joke one out of every three pods. And I don't know how he feels about it. You know, I've never asked him, like, how do you feel about us making jokes about your, your, you're, what do we ask him now? Nick, if you're listening. Remember, Nick, how do you feel?

The Eagles after party, where Nick was just like being a really nice gentlemanly fella, the whole time, you know, I was thinking about how nice a guy. Did you guys see Justin Thomas? You missed the fucking playoffs in front of his grandma? Yeah, and did you see why that chip? Yeah, we got to make that. Yeah, yeah. Grandma's here. Grandma, and he tipped the attendant that walked his grandma around the whole course.

It was a volunteer. Distraction tactic. In fact, they missed the playoffs. And Bryson DeChambo won a live event for the first time. Yeah. He also shot 58. Nobody cares because Jim Furrick did it better X amount. It actually counted when Jim Furich shot 58.

Another thing. Did you all see the Carson Wentz picture? Oh, yeah. Bro. Someone said that was like a building a quarterback. He had, he had Eagles helmet, commander's jersey. Colt shorts. He's working out. And I don't know what the caption was that he posted, but he posted this.

I don't know if he's trying to create like a super, like, you know how they do these graphics where it's like, oh, this would be the perfect quarterback. You know, well, this is not the perfect quarterback. You know, like, I don't know if he's like, I want to take my decision making from Philly. One thing to keep the helmet in the gym shorts. Yeah. The practice jersey. The practice jersey is a bit, yeah. How does that happen? Do you like, I want to take this with me? It's pretty wild. I've never seen anybody do this before. He's a one-of-a-kind guy, Carson is.

We want to get Carson on the pod. At one point, we ought to. I feel like we've got to sit down and Carson unpack the whole thing. The whole thing. Is that an elbow to shoulder, Jesus fish on his bicep? Yeah. That's dope. His quote or the title of the post,

back in the lab just looks a little different so far this year. Hashtag alternate uniforms, hashtag training camp. Interesting. Interesting. I want to blow the Hunger Games whistle for Maple Leaf Mel. I don't know if you guys heard about this. Surprisingly, a horse died out there running fast. That was awful.

I didn't see it. You saw it? Yeah, unfortunately. It's like Joe Thysman. But worse, if they came out and shot him right after. Yeah. Oh, really? If they shot Joe Thysman.

Yeah. That's the thing about it. You put it in perspective. Imagine Lawrence Taylor folds Joe Thysman up like a lawn chair, and then they, they fucking, they put a bullet in the back of his head. Like that's what we're doing. And we talked about this after the Kentucky Derby. Okay, I don't watch horse racing,

but it seems objectively kind of fucked up. Apparently it's about the biology of the horse where it's like not able to recover from a leg injury because so much of their movement is based on their legs. You know what else it's not able to do? Say, yeah, I want to go out there and run around the track with this little guy on my back whipping my ass. Nay.

If I fall and break my leg, you shoot me. Yeah. The horse is like not able to consent. You know? I mean, these horses don't even know what's going on. I mean, they just think they're running around a circle. They're saying like, hey, it is for horses. Got it.

Got it. Yeah, got it. Got it. Yeah, as Bill Parcells is horse. Mm. You know? It's tough. Well, that's kind of karma.

Wasn't he coaching Lawrence Taylor? Yeah. Okay. That's interesting. I'm glad you said it, not me. Um, last thing from the world of sports, um, well, Hard Knocks is coming. Yeah. Saw a couple clips of Aaron Rogers.

You know, they were like, break it down. And he, he was like, all right, guys. Um, you know, I've been thinking a lot about this. And, you know, like, uh, time is a flat circle. And training camp is going to be a long time, but don't think of it that way. Like, it's going to be pretty interesting to hear Aaron Rogers like 2.0 in a leadership role. It's very chill. I like, I like the breakdown.

saw. You know, he called a go route in the Hall of Fame game. It connected on the bomb. I think it's going to be fun. I'm in for hard knocks. Yep. Watching. Watching. Sorry, Netflix quarterback special. That was, hey, that was a thing we were doing because we didn't have anything to talk about. I watched episode one and I'm good. Yeah, it's not my disdain for quarterbacks, but I think I can get my fix in hard knocks. Last thing. This is another miced up moment. Michael Pittman took a swing at the the rash bit. Did you see this? You know my rash bit?

There was a, okay, well, if you don't know it, there was a time when it was before the double-doin game, Malcolm told me he was miced up. We were getting ready to go out for the answer. And Malcolm's like, hey, I'm miced up. And it took me a second to realize what he was saying. And then when I did, I was like, okay, I got to do this rash joke.

And it goes something like this. It's like, hey, did you get that rash clear? up and he's like uh incredulous and i'm like yeah the one by your you know like the thing that keeps flaring up you try that topical owingment and then you know it takes him a second and he's like ha ha ha ha ha ha ha and and the same thing with michael pitman i saw a couple guys try it over the last couple years it was really good now they don't credit the source which is fine but if you're going to do it like really fucking do it and michael pitman is a fine football player second generation NFL guy. I got a lot of love from Michael Pittman, but I thought the delivery was objectively

dog shit. I mean, you got to hear the delivery. I mean, it's obviously like he's reading a line. All of it. Like, there's no... Yeah, watch it. That rash cleared up. What you tell me about? Come on, bro. You got out of here, bro. Like, you just got to go to CVS. See there. The cream, the antifungal section? Yeah, bro. They could be all right, you know? And, uh... Because you got a lot of experience, right? You got it? And, and, like, Then remember you had like uncontrollable like diarrhea. I think you used some bread. Some bread.

Okay. Yeah. I appreciate it. Appreciate it. So. Good news. The Thursday show we do with AMP will continue 430 every Thursday. The Greenlight team, Cowboy Reed, Facts, Kingston.

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He has a lovely wife who turned out to be not. lovely who tried to kill him uh because of him killed yeah she was having him killed uh she met a bartender in abaco um he's got a friend who's like an aspiring rapper who also does hits i guess um anyways play the uh mailbag for make this question is for making in light of the auburn football story the guy i played back in the day uh long snapper or whatever he was his wife tried to long snap his neck, hired somebody to do it. And turns out he's actually bailed her out. He has bailed her out of jail.

I don't know if that's a Christian thing. Or if it's like, I don't know what it is, or maybe she's got that good good. But Makin, I was wondering if I plotted to kill you, understandably. Would you bail me out of jail if the plot failed? Or would you be mad that it didn't work? And so punitively, you wouldn't bail me out of jail.

Just a question I have driving down the road. Would not. Would not? Let me think. Would not? I wouldn't bail me out. No. Because the thing I'm trying to figure out is just the worst guy or the best guy?

My best guy of the week or my worst guy of the week? Like, should I be patting him on the back for being a real Christian? I think they're three or four kids. Yeah. So I think that's a good look. when they get older, this is going to be traumatic for them. Okay. So then you see, oh, well, pop bailed mom out.

That's a, that's a solid move. And the rapper. Yeah. And the fucking, the guy was supposed to do a hit that was. Talk about minimum security. Did you see the perp walk? Like, they're not even cuff. Yeah.

They're like transferring them to another. No, actually, she's down there on like Fox Hill or Fox Island or whatever it is. It's where they keep the crypto guy. It's like an infamous. Well, the transport was like, hey. Just see that's one of these low security prisons that's low security but high risk like there's a bunch of people with shanks in there you're pissing into a bucket. You know, you're not eating conch fritters like somebody in there just got every long snappers back like exactly man I was long snapping back in the 70s. You don't fuck with the long snapper.

Exactly. Can you imagine this guy when he found out the guy was a rapper in his southern voice a fucking rapper like when you find out. out that it was like not even a real rapper, it was like an aspiring rapper was going to kill you. Like this was going to be the messiest, grossest story, dude. The harshest caption I saw was, want to be musician.

For our guy the, now he's not the, he's not the killer. No, well. His buddy's the killer. No. See, the bartender was a bartender by trade. He also, uh, he also banged cougars. And then his friend is, uh, is an

aspiring rapper. He's the guy who's supposed to put a hit out on him. Hey, is WhatsApp not actually secure? Because I read about some of these things. And they're like, hey, we looked into the WhatsApp, the WhatsApp history. And yeah, they were talking about killing the guy. I thought the WhatsApp was supposed to be encrypted and supposed to disappear and all this sort of thing. No, it's supposed to disappear. I mean, once they get your phone. Okay. So it's just an encryption thing. Yeah. So if you're going to do murder for hire stuff, I would, I would consider snail mail or like a meeting in the park, like a chess game. Like, you know, if you, If you were going to get, if you were going to have me killed, how would you do it?

If I were going to have you killed. Poison? Really? I think poison. Okay, how? Let's play it out. What like, is there like a lethal dosage of ruffinol? I don't know.

Say you've got some cyanide. How are you going to do it? I'm really not familiar with cyanide. I put it into a smoothie. You love smoothies. He's going to show up with it. You want some juice laundry today? Let me snaggy some juice laundry.

Bang. I die. I die 15 seconds later. You know what I mean? They're going to do an autopsy. Exactly. I'm a podcast. Hey, Brooke.

Chris asked me if you would go pick up some juice laundry. Oh, so you're going to frame my assistant. I'm just saying, let me think about it a little longer. I'll start adding more layers. But yeah, it poisoned you. So how would you kill me? Let's see. Let's see.

Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. Oh, what's the hike that everybody likes? Around here? Yeah. Hump back? You fall off. Huh? We go on a hike.

It wouldn't take much, maybe seven feet. I don't get the joke. Well, you're not real, like, you're not real, what's the word? Sturdy? Yeah. Okay. That's not bad. Like, we go on a hike and then you push me up.

I get you to take a picture, you know, like right before, and then I, you just That's really smart. Yeah. I will say that that's a pretty popular hike though. You have to make sure no one else is not that way. Yeah, we make a bet like you won't go overnight and then you go and you take a false step. And it's all she wrote. That's pretty good.

Okay. Also, there was like the signs were everywhere. This guy was a pushover. And the guy just got targeted for murder for hire. So I'm not trying to pile on. But he had his, he had his fucking shirt tucked into his khaki shirt. on every vacation picture I saw like that's like hey you probably would bail your wife out me not bailing my wife out lovely seven bedroom spread in Thomasville Georgia as well

also the biggest irony in this whole thing is he's a life insurance company executive yeah you know well maybe he's in on it took out one of them probably the policy probably the wrong guys now that we're talking about good good hey since we're talking about fucking legal stuff You guys familiar with these Roth IRAs. Oh yeah. Yeah, I'd probably shoot you. I'd shoot you. It's America.

I'd shoot you a bunch of times. Like probably with your own guns. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Roth IRA? Yeah, Roth IRA. What do you want to know?

Tell me. What is it? Roth IRA. Yeah. You don't know what a Roth IRA is. No, I do. I do, I do. I do, I do.

Roth IRA, you can take it out, text free. when she turned 59.5. Maximum contribution changes. Right now, I believe it's $6,500 a year. And that's how a Roth IRA works. It's a retirement account. So maybe my wife was wrong when she walked in the other night.

Fucking mic drop. You heard about these Roth IRAs? And I was like, nah. Well, I was like, yeah, I heard about him. I never really looked into him. She was like, if you hire Whalen on set, like by the time he's 60, he'll have $6 million or something like that. Like, where did she get?

get this. It has nothing to do with employing your kids. No. No. It's a way for people that are employed to put money into savings without paying taxes on it up front. Yeah, so we can employ Waylon. You don't even have to be employed. You can, you can contribute for Waylon. Oh, so I don't have to hire him. I don't think so. Did you hear, did you hear, did you hear, she's right on the 59 and a half part. Did you hear about Ryan Rissillo and Wayland did a podcast together? Oh, I heard he had questions for Ryan. He had questions for Ryan. I didn't quite get to that part. Well, it's good we don't have to hire him. You can give him a tax-free gift once per year up to $16,000.

Yeah, just do that. And then I got this. Put it in the market. I got this, this brilliant message from one of our followers. I don't want to, I don't want to say her name on Instagram because I feel like she's, she's kind of got a really sinister idea here. And if it ever happens, she's going to get framed. But she, she's written me a bunch of ideas over.

course of a year. This one actually right on the head, I think. I realize this sounds crazy, but it's also genius. Should teams engage in biological warfare? They can pay a girl to infect her with something non-life-threatening like mono and have her go meet up with guys from other teams, and then the other teams can't play because they're sick. In case you can't talk about this in the pod, we can.

You can just like the message. Let me know you think it's a good idea. And then I got a message a month. like it? Oh, no. Actually, I got a... Did you like it? I love the idea. But did you physically like it? No, because I wanted her to hear the pod. Okay. So she texted me this

idea, or DM me this idea, April 26 at 807 p.m. July 27th at 9.39 p.m. she message, hi, just following up. Thanks. That's my favorite kind of person. I don't want the follow-up a day later. All right, because then I'm never going to get to it because I just don't want to deal with you.

She waited fucking, you know, three, four months. It was incredible. And this is not her first idea? No, she has not as good ideas. But can you imagine? It's a brilliant idea. It is a brilliant idea. It's not illegal either.

I just think about all the, the, it's not legal. Not illegal. I think it checks out. Dude, I used to think about this all the time. I never thought about this part of it. But I used to think about like going to an away stadium. you know, you go to the hotel. And the fate of the game, the next day,

is in the chef at the Marriott's hands, dude. Like, it wouldn't be hard to food poisoning, or food poison an entire team. Just ask the Salt Lake City pizza parlor that poisoned Michael Jordan. Now, it would be a lot easier if you had, like, you know, 100 grand on the bangles to go infect Dishon Watson and company, like, with Mono. Yeah.

Hey, before I give you a massage, can I just have a little kiss? You know, like, and then boom, everybody's got mono. So this is something we have to actually think about, because this could be the future of, like, warfare in the NFL. What's MRSA? It's a staff infection. It's like, you know, you get it on hot tubs and services like that. It's going to be harder to do the MRSA thing,

although I had a teammate that lost part of his foot because of MRSA. And they shuts down locker rooms, yeah. Somebody was like, I don't want to hear about these millionaires complaining about losing part of their foot to Mercer. Somebody said that? No, probably. Probably. Oh, one more question for you. Best Athletic Sock.

I'm a Lulu Lemon guy. I'm glad you asked. I'm not made of money over here, but I've been on a journey. Yeah. I saw Kingston, I went to Dix, and it was really a fun time. And I got the old Dick's sporting goods branded sock because I wanted a white cruise. sock that didn't have a logo on the top yeah because I'm wearing a lot of the same logo like shirt short shoe I didn't want to let you know be what about no shouts I have chicken legs

like I want some that's why you wear the mid lengths yeah like really really chicken legs so I was on this quest this journey right felt down my plumb you know special two for one at the farmer's market you know Dick sporting good socks well then you take off I asked the lady at the cash register I said can you take back a sock can I return a sock if it doesn't work out pack of six socks she said well we'd have to take out the one pair that that was used and like deduct that for like not being enabled to resell or something I was like totally fair so I I open up the packaging well you open up the packaging and it starts peeling I had a whole you know what pilling is it's like when all the threads get pulled but they call it pill instead

so it all peeled it looked like shit so I took that right back and did some research on Reddit. Well, turns out Haynes makes a great athletic sock. You laugh, Haynes, okay? They carry those at Target. My wife on Saturday, like a sign from Jesus himself, said, hey, I got to go to Target and pick up himself. I say, hey there, young lady, let me join you, all right?

Now listen to this. I go to Target. I pick up this Haynes sock. Special two socks for a not a special two socks one it's called Haynes X-Timp performance sock okay listen to this now Memory cushion performance heel compression arch Wicking breathable cool comfort that's trademarked breathable mesh panels and odor protection and then Great length a very tight flat rib. Oh my God. Let me show you this now I pulled them up pretty high for this picture but look at that you know there's no I don't know why that's so funny why are you

standing like that I wanted to see the link why are you standing like that before I put them in the wash and the dryer standing like you're holding a poo in Chris we listen yeah before I put them in the wash in the dryer I wanted to see where the length was to see if they got a lot smaller now I take them out of the washing machine last night they were basically bone dry I'm like this is perfect they're washed they're the same length that I want them it's hangs the answer it's Haynes. That four pack of sock cost me out $15. Haynes performance sock is X-Timp. It's got the gray cushion on the heel and the toe. The cushion on the heel goes a little too high because you can see it a little bit. There's a little bit of a reveal when you're wearing an athletic shoe.

That's all right. That's a small price to pay for the best sock around. I wasn't sweating in them. Again, did I tell you it was nice and tight? It was a taught. It was a taught sock. God damn I'll let you know after a few wears but I'm really happy with them can I borrow one? Yeah

now that's the other thing I was worried about it said shoe size now my shoe size is a 12 and it said shoe size 6 to 12 but then I thought maybe I just pull these joints up as tall as can be I never even have to think about it they're always going to be the perfect height damned if I wasn't right it's the perfect height when I pull them up

as high as I want now Now, you got, what are you, you 14, size 14, you'll be fine. I'm gonna get your pair of these socks. Yeah. All right. Might even get your four pack. Okay. Yeah.

Appreciate it. Yeah, man. Well, let me tell you this. Can I tell you something? Yeah. My wife, big Doordash person, big grubhub person, she'll hand me the fucking phone and she'll be like, hey, put your order in.

And I'll notice every time that she's on the website. Oh. Yeah. So Roth IRAs, you know, apps, not her strong suit. Now, devil's advocate, is there any like, downside? User face, interface, interface. Is there any user difference? Is there any interface difference between an app and webto?

Okay. Yeah, it's like not even close to the same. I don't know if anybody out there is like my wife and doesn't. I do. I am exactly like your wife. Oh, 100%. I type in grubhub.com. Wow.

And I'd like sign in. Bro, what year is this for you? I'm doing that. No. It was just like in light. Oh. Yeah, probably mid-90s, late 90s. That's a very, that's the most boomer thing you do.

It's not very, like I don't, it's not a huge difference. Also, it's one less app I have to use. Yeah. I don't use it. I don't use it. I use it maybe twice a week or three times a week, but one less app. One less app. Exactly.

One less app. Yeah. Do you have to deal with it? have the Grubhub app on your phone? No. Or that he enters his fucking credit card. W-W-W-W. No, no, it saves it.

Because I still sign in, like it still signs into my account or whatever. And all the restaurants are loaded up there like that? Yeah, yeah. Like recent orders, all that stuff. Just get the app. What'd your wife say about this? She just, she just laughs at me. Like I'm, like, I'm an idiot.

Like, see, it's one less, you don't have, it's less storage on your phone. You don't have your one less app. Makes no sense. Makes no sense, guys. You know where Safari is. When you're drafting your fantasy team, do you ever wish you could handpick the best stars for your business team? If you're building your talent roster, you need Indeed.

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Terms and conditions apply. Cost per application pricing not available. for everyone. Need to hire. You need indeed. Who would induct you into the Hall of Fame of podcasting? Who would I ask to to put me in? Yeah. Uh, you. Okay, cool. Same answer for me. Thanks. Yeah, me. I'm just joking. No, you, man. Oh, thanks. Yeah, you. Love is love, everybody. Confused Browns fans wearing football hats. Canton, Ohio. You don't what I love about those speeches, my favorite thing is probably the fans. It's probably the panning to the crowd. You know, you get a really good idea of which fan base is which, you know, the Browns fans, this was their Super Bowl. I mean, it's in their backyard. Some years, they don't have anybody. They got Joe Thomas. They're out there fully decked out. They got their index finger in their mouth like this, like they're listening to like William Thoreau to do a lecture. And, and they, they're, they're, they're, they're, they they got all their fucking goofy football accessories and they're they're crying like they're

crying listening to joe thomas talk and things like this while like some people like i won't watch it the whole thing like i used to as a player sit down and watch these speeches i wasn't going there but you know if you can pick up something that one of these guys uh you know communicates in the biggest moment of their professional career like yeah you there's some nuggets to be to be caught there. Catch some jewels. You talked about the fans. Cleco even had a pretty good semi-corrigraphed with Fireman Edge

ATS. There was very little lag time. It was pretty impressive. Yeah, that was good. Also, my dad tight with Cleco, so my dad went, he goes every year. But just to be there for Joe and I guess Joe opened the speech with I got a $100 bet with Howie Long. I'm not going to cry.

And I think actually, like he got through the speech without crying. So I don't know if my dad paid up on that better if it was a bet or no bet thing. Calling back to that golf course thing. I thought they were all great. I'm a big Ronde Barber fan. We both are.

I thought Ronde was great. One thing about Ronde, Chris? Yeah. Ronday and Tiki both went through the McIntyre school at UVA, which is our commerce school. Yeah. Which is probably the most, it is.

It's the most demanding freaking undergraduate curriculum UVA has to offer UVA a pretty good school and they just getting us into the big 10 and they and they excelled I can't imagine going through the comm school and playing ball like those two dudes did on some really solid teams dude I mean look at the defense that he played on you know his peers sitting there in gold jackets in the crowd like talking about four hall of famers on the defense Derek Brooks Warren sap John Lynch Ronde barber you know Simeon Rice is probably not a Hall of Famer. I mean, his numbers are Hall of Fame if you just look at it on paper,

but I think people will kind of like, I think there's a star factor. And also, you know, the association with him is that he was just a pass rusher. I'm not saying that's true or not. But four or five Hall of Famers on that defense, think about the best defenses in the history of the game. You go back to Seattle probably. And they might have three, four Hall of Famers on that defense.

Ravens in their heyday, obviously Steelers. But, you know, pretty cool to see those guys out there. And then to hear Ronde talk about, and this is the thing. When you're, Ronday did a good job of like setting the table and talking about like after his second year, he was just hoping he didn't get cut. You know, after his fourth year, he's like a free agent and he didn't have any options. The one option was stay in Tampa and, you know, the way that worked out. When you get in the NFL, you're like a ball of clay.

I mean, no matter how good or bad you are, the context with which you come into the NFL matters, and it's going to alter your career trajectory. So you look at the coaches he named, Dungee, Kiffin, John Gruden, Tomlin. He talked a lot about, which I thought was really cool. He said I was going to make you a 2020 guy, which is not, it's kind of a double entendre without meaning it, but like 2020 is like the future of football.

whenever he said it was probably the early 2000s. And, you know, he's also talking about 20 sacks, 20 interceptions. And he ends up being, you know, eclipsing that. And he talks about just what that one positive influence was. He had so many in these coaches that he talked about. But that one guy that believes in you, we've all got those guys when you look back of your career. Some of them are wrong.

And that's why not everybody's a Hall of Famer. But Mike Tomlin was right. And, you know, I loved him talking about being an angry worker. He doesn't have to be an angry worker. If you know Ronde Barber, if you know Tiki, they're not angry guys. But when Ronde stepped on the field, that was his mindset. He had something to prove every time. And, you know, you saw Bruce Ariens out there.

You talk about coaches. He was out there, Sons, Beret. So you know, it was a big deal. And, you know, he even thanked his video equipment and training staff guys, which that was really cool, man. Like, when I think about my career, some of my best friends. where the equipment staff guys, the trainers. I was in a fantasy basketball league with all my trainers and guys on the team

for like eight years running. We go to the Ritz Carlton, run out of ballroom, do the draft. It was fun. I never made the playoffs. I was like Justin Thomas. But like, well, no, he made the playoffs before. But like the training staff, the equipment guys, the other couple months ago,

I had a knock on my door and I hate unwanted company making in my yard. I go to the door. And it's Jimmy Lake. He's my equipment manager from St. Louis. He lives in L.A. I'm like, what the fuck are you doing here? He's got a six pack of beer.

He actually had a 12 pack of beer, six for me, six for him. And he's like, dude, I'm driving through. And I wanted to surprise you. And it was the best surprise I could have gotten. Because the bond you make with those guys are incredible. And when he talked about the trainers, which a nugget that I thought was awesome was, he said, I did, you know, availability being the best ability. he never missed a game.

I did my job by not letting anyone else do my job. And I think that's like one of the biggest keys to having a long successful career in the NFL in a Hall of Fame career. It's like you're constantly fighting to make sure nobody else even gets a rep out there because like I used to be terrified of guys like when I got hurt, you're rooting for them.

But the other side of that coin is the better they play, the more replaceable you are. And I thought that was great. And Joe Thomas, 10,300. 163 snaps in a row. Like and he he said it like luck. I mean there's definitely luck there. You don't get rolled up on you don't you don't have a equipment malfunction. You don't get the wind knocked out of you don't get cramps like that never happened to him. Is that more impressive to you than Cal Ripkin Street? Yes. Yes. You know because

Cal Ripkin maybe turn the lights off and shit like that. You know, Joe Thomas couldn't turn the lights off. They were never playing at night in Cleveland. So 10,363 snaps. He talked about his dad going to work in snowshoes. Like he threw on cross-country skis. I guess a totally different thing. Reed, sorry. You are Joe Thomas' dad.

Oh, yeah, that would be sweet. Cross-country ski to work. His dad used to cross-country ski to work. Me and Joe Thomas' dad, one of the same. He talked about his 20 quarterbacks. He didn't name them all. he called the offensive line room a mushroom club i never got the invite uh i don't he didn't really elaborate either uh one thing he talked about which was awesome was his kid who's like seven years

old he goes i don't know if you remember this you used to eat peanuts off the floor at the at the facility and it makes me think about like being a kid shadowing my dad at work and for me it was the the can gatorades in oxnard at training camp They had the canned lemon lime Gatorades. And I'll never forget that. Just the memories of being like a Hall of Famers kid, getting to go to work with your dad, Bo Jackson coming over the house,

like stuff like that. It's cool to see these families get to enjoy it. And I was 13 when this happened. My dad got in. And it was a blur. So I don't know if these kids remember it, but they're great memories. Great memory from that trip was one of my buddies.

Came to Canton, who I'm not going to name. It was on a treadmill. We were 13. He was checking out. out like a hot girl and fell off the treadmill and get shot into a mirror and broke the mirror at the can hotel there. But like the memories at the the ceremony are awesome and and I thought it was great. Also Peter Schaefer getting a shout out the the agent in a Hall of Fame speech. Like that's that's that's that's good for business. DeWare was awesome. Dwear. Trouble background.

I you know like he demarcets wear is just this guy that makes everything look so easy like on the field I was watching these these speeches in two X right because I wanted to catch up quickly the Marcus Ware like played in two X and and and he just made everything his style of play everything was so effortless you know you get these hitters in baseball who baseball purists are like his swing is just so pure the marcus wear was one of the purest pass rushers of all time uh and and And he made it look easy. He made the speech look easy. But under the surface, like with a lot of guys, like, there were some hardships. He talked about those. Love, love, love having them on. He talked about working for 25 cents picking egg or grabbing eggs.

Like some real country show, bro. Troy was like his only scholarship offer. And then to make money, he would leave the game and head to Auburn and sell drinks. And Troy got a lot of love too. Probably more than Virginia got with Ronde-Barber. Troy probably got more love than any place that was talked about as far as alma maters go. DeMarcus also gave a shout out to some players who left this world a little too soon, some great Denver Broncos guys and Mario Barber from the Cowboys,

but it was cool to see him give a shout out to some of those guys. I thought it was cool that he like, he talked about the noises of work. Like at one point he's like, if I heard weights clanging, it was Larry Allen, like, you know, benching 650 or something. heard ring of fire. I knew, I knew, uh, I knew, uh, I knew Romo was in the building at work. And just get the sounds of the facility. It kind of brings you back. The one thing I didn't get and you were trying to explain this to me in real time was his analogy about like he told God, you know, I'll prepare for six days on the seventh day. I'm going to leave it up to you to show

the world what a bad mamma jammy you are. And like what I always heard was that on the seventh day, God rested. Right. So like, you're not wrong. Do you wear is like, hey man, do you mind? like you know having my back on the optional film meeting here because I put it in six hard throughout the week I know contractually you're supposed to play 18 games but we want you to you know

on the seventh day I Dware I'm going to rest God needs a new show everybody man he really does you're expecting him to work on the seventh day deware I loved his speech I loved his speech about the Nokia flip phone very relatable curly fries we had Zach Thomas

we talked about Kleco Zach Thomas was great and you know the way I talked about watching these in 2X you want to chuckle watch Zach Thomas talking 2X it's funny as shit he calls himself a small town country boy and he is man

his town's small he got run over by like I imagine a red Ford Ranger when he was like two years old and he said it was the dirt that saved him because had he been run over on concrete or asphalt probably would have been curtains isn't that the the the ideal the the small town country boy you don't want to be like and i remember my humble roots and no humble new york city yeah yeah yeah my dad was a was a financial advisor right in midtown manhattan exactly you know it was hard nobody nobody had a car

it was new york city yeah so uh and zach reference uh junior say how and that's where he really got emotional he talked about his family nailed it it the whole thing. And then you get to junior who is a guy that I always hear is like just the consummate teammate, the vibe elevator, the guy who cared about everybody on the team, the guy that included everybody. Like when I think about teammates, I wish I had, he'd be one of them. And Zach Thomas talked about him and he just started bawling. Also, Zach Thomas got held back before kindergarten. So, you know, he volunteered that information. The oldest in your class.

And I love thanking the defensive line. I love thanking the defensive line. He thanked the defensive line. He said, y'all made my job look easy, especially the interior guys. Whenever there's a great linebacker, look in front of him, I'm a little biased, but that's where it starts. Two things on people in the crowd.

Larry Izzo looked like a cable, like, I don't know, like some sort of tradesman. He just does not look like a former very successful. NFL player. I think that might be how I'm going to look at 45, 47 years old. And then the other guy was his brother. Can we pull up? I don't know if you can pull up Zach's brother Bart Thomas, but he is a dead ringer for Frank Reich. And he was sitting next to, was it Bruce Ariens? And for five seconds, they had the Chiron wrong. I mean, his brother looks just like Frank Reich. You'd have to go back to the speech. Find it.

put it in a social they are doppelgangers um best speech i like i like cleckos i like clecco's line that he was the highest paid defense alignment in 1986 making 700 000 he said aaron donald's the highest paid today at 31.7 million dollars he's like i had his point seven it was funny it was a good line and then he had the fireman ed uh jts my number one is probably Ronde Barber. I'm biased. I've been waiting a long time for this guy to get in, but I thought he nailed his speech. His speech was just like who he is,

who he was as a player and who he is as a person. He's all class. Probably followed by DeMarcus Ware. I just, I think, I talked about it. This guy is just to be that good at something and be a mensch and be, you know, like you never heard anything negative about, about DeMarcus Ware. Not once.

I never heard anything negative about him. and he could have been a real asshole man because he was he was his talented as anybody and then third probably for me was just Zach Thomas like just cheese and up there like a like a three-year-old with a bucket cowboy hat on in in West Texas just was happy to be there so I mean they're all great speeches um all these guys are awesome and I love that my dad gets to go do this every year it's fucking cool uh you know My dad's still a kid at heart. I can remember him talking about, like, getting to meet Joe Green and stuff like that.

These guys are meeting their idols, and they become one. I mean, like, just putting on that jacket, so they're all part of the same club. Worst flight out of the Hall of Fame is definitely both teams, because the showers were broken in Canton. So these guys were just thinking like shit. I had to get on the plane smelling like some wild animals, man. They were passing out showers. Prower pills, huh? They're back into their nice clothes.

Like, they inevitably wore some good threads. It's the first football game of the 2023 season. You're going to wear some nice clothes? You got wear a suit on the plane? Ooh, it depends on the coach. Yeah. You know? So I'm not really sure.

If I was a coach, I would have said, hey, we're going to take a detour. How far is Canton from one of those great lakes? Like, you're not getting on the plane smelling like, like ball cheese. Weren't the Browns playing in this game? Yeah. So at least the bus ride. That's good. The Jets, man.

Rogers is used to this shit, though. I don't think he might not shower. You think about the chapter of his life he's in. He's kind of in the white lady with dreads stage. The Jets probably went to Cleveland and jumped into the lake there right after. You know, me and Rogers probably have the same deodorant. Tom's. No aluminum.

No aluminum, yeah. Yeah. Aluminum. Yeah. Didn't want to go without talking about the Hall of Fame. Later in the week, I think we're going to have Kyle in. I really want to get out there and see Oppenheimer. You need to be before the next pod.

Kyle was like, let's go to Barbie and Oppenheimer, same day. Let's do like some content around it. I was like, yeah, sounds good. And then two days ago, he's like, hey, I'm going to Oppenheimer with mom and dad. I was like, what the fuck? You know, like can we, can we plan things out a little bit here, also i'm gonna i'm gonna watch it by myself this week oppenheimer and barbie and we'll get back to you some big guests coming up thursday too stay tuned oh yeah two big guests double trouble who are they

uh i don't know if we can say can we say i can yeah we can say will and uh and luke fickle yeah so stick around later in the week y'all take care