Green Light with Chris Long - MAXO KREAM! Houston Rapper Maxo Kream In Studio to talk Rap Career, Favorite Albums, Elite Freestyle Ability, High School Pranks & Life

Episode Date: April 12, 2024

MAXO KREAM'S OFFICIAL VISIT! Houston rapper Maxo Kream comes by Studio J to hang out with Chris and Dr. Fax. We talk about Maxo's childhood and life growing up in Houston. his introduction and growth in the rap game, touring with some of the biggest names in hip hop, playing music festivals and hanging out in Charlottesville. Before we sat down with Maxo, while he was in town, we took him to UVA's football practice and slung some weights around in the UVA weight room. Maxo doesn't mess around with the weights, you'll hear about it. Enjoy the conversation and throw some Maxo Kream on the playlists! Want your Green Light Merch so you can look exactly like Chris and the fellas? Hit the website below and get kitted! https://stores.kotisdesign.com/yotehouse/products Have some interesting takes, some codebreaks or just want to talk to the Green Light Crew? We want to hear from you. Call into the Green Light Hotline and give us your hottest takes, your biggest gripes and general thoughts. Day and night, this hotline is open. Green Light Hotline: ‪[phone]‬ Send any Talent Search submissions to: [e-mail] Include any video of your talents, takes and bits as well as a little bit about yourself. Love hearing from the Green Light fans. Also, check out our paddling partners at Appomattox River Company to get your canoes, kayaks and paddleboards so you're set to hit the river this summer. https://paddleva.com/ Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCgxWFAA-wuB7osdiAJyLOcw Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We were playing Way to the World earlier when we were working out. By the way, Max says a beast in the fucking Way Room. Oh, yeah. It's just a host, dude. We were playing Way to the World. And it depended on the song, I feel like the way your ears perked up. Like, do you like some of your songs more? Like, what's your favorite song off that album?

Didn't they're so good. Talk about what they're gonna do. That was the one. So, look, yeah. Yeah. Big homie crippleight too, because like, I'm on that whole bouncing. But it's a chill beast. If you want to be chill, you can.

But if you want to turn up, you can. Welcome to the Green Light podcast. And welcome to Maxo Cream's official visit to Studio J in Charlottesville. Maxo's a great rapper from Houston. He's been around for a while. Been dropping some great tracks, great albums. He's shown up a couple times on the layup line. As you all know, we were supposed to talk to Maxo about a month ago at South by Southwest in Texas.

That ended up not working out. But Maxo was like, hey, guys, I'll come to Charlottesville. Let's hang out. Let's have a good time. And that's what we did. We had about two days worth of fun playing Madden working out, slinging some weight in the weight room. You'll hear in this interview Maxo talking about his upbringing,

how he got into rap. He's going to drop a couple lines on you for, he even freestaws for us. And not only is a dude a great rapper, a great musician, but he is one cool, funny dude. A great hang, a great visit. Make sure to check it out on YouTube.

Enjoy the interview with Maxo Cream Chris and Dr. They go. And go. All right. So Maxo's here. He's been here. Golly, almost 24 hours, man.

We don't get a lot of guests. So honestly, dude, it was fucking cool you to pull up. And we were up to like two in the morning last night playing Madden. I'm whipping everybody in Maxo's group's ass.

But Maxo, because he doesn't jump on the stick. I say that. Yep. But we're psyched you're here. And Reed said when he took you to the chicken spot, you said something. to the effect of this is the most fun I've had in a while.

People think rappers have a lot of fun, but I don't really have that much fun. Right. I mean, yeah, well, to me, it don't be fun. Yeah. Like, you know what I'm saying? But, like, shit like this. I mean, it's fun when I'm on tour, traveling and shit like that, but I've been sitting at the crib recently working on my album.

I went hog hunting. I did this. I saw it. So people just watching my girl. Oh, you're always having fun. But I'd be sitting on airplanes for hours. Yeah. Yeah.

So talk to us about the new album. Right, right, right. Like, when you set out to record an album, like soup to nuts, is it like you got a timeline in your mind or you just start writing songs and then pull it together? Exactly. I just getting that motherfucker to start writing songs, writing songs. And then like, the first two songs might just be rap-d-rerap, I ain't talking about shit for real.

Then, like, once I started getting topics and getting fields and get some songs and bouncing, I'm like, bro, I low-key got a tape on. I just keep working, keep working, keep working, like 20 songs. And I start trying to put piece together that tape. not working in other 20 songs, try to piece together the tape. But recently, with this, I worked on like three different tapes. I worked on the tape I'm dropping right now, working on what I'm saying, shout to him the name, personification, worked on that I, 8 and all that myself, everything independent with

me, my management stumbed down, you feel me? So I did the A&R beats all that myself, like really all myself, because usually I work with my own homie Thume, Shal Thu-Thu-May. That's the one that helped me with maximum 87, quick strikes, really everything in my career. But I'm a professional, you feel me? I'm like a season bit. So I know what to do on the music, everything, you feel me, on an independent level. So I feel real proud of this project.

But in the middle of that, I worked on a project for Mexico Drove. Yeah. Cut with a lot of his beats and I put together a little EP for me and Tyler. And I said, it's going to drop. But me and Tyler created got so much music. I'm like, all right, well, this is the Tyler photo. You know what I'm saying? So, and the mix of it, I was working on like three tapes.

You and Tyler, I wouldn't have pictured y'all being- Right, right. You know what I mean? I don't know why that is, but you just see from different places, like music's a little bit different, but I think what's cool about both of you guys is you seem to have a good fucking time when you get together. That's just listening to you talk about it. What was it about Tyler, the made y'all click?

Man, I always put with Tyler. He's the reason why I smoked out the bond because back when I was trapping. I was- I was trying to where you picked that habit up. I was trapping, like, you know what I'm saying? I was trapping and just started I was sitting in my mama house. I wanted to smoke. You can't smoke a full of blunt because see how it is right now.

It's smoke. So I stand by the window and get like a little bond and I take like a little piece of drool, a little cushion, put it in that a little piece hit it, smoke it by the window, blow it out, and they get me high enough. And just one hell yeah. And I just got my MacBook. I remember I had stole a MacBook. And when I stole it, Travis Scott had put on, with just logic, he put logic on that bitch.

And then I just went home and then I just like, I just get on Tumblr, 2,000, two dope boys, Air Milk, find our artists. And I started across our future. I just dive in, jamming this nigga music, getting high. Shit like that. So I've been fucking with Tyler. So by the time we made linked up, it made sense. What's the first time you linked up and how did that go?

Oh. That nigga School Board Q, back when he dropped, what's the album when he got the brown paper bag on? I don't know. I know the one that's got like an orange and red cover with all the like the veining on the front. Hell yeah. This probably happens to contradiction.

Or like Blank face. Blank face. Crash talk there go, yeah. So Crass talk, 2019. We was all on stage for his shit. I met him there. Then we went to Yams Day. At Yams Day, Rocky was back there.

Rockies complaining about some shit. Like some serious shit and Tyler kept making jokes. And Rocky was like, yo, Tyler, stop fucking making jokes. But like the whole time, every time Tyler make a joke, I'm goofy his hair. I'm laughing. Like, everybody's gonna beat him up, rob him. So I'm in the corner, chilling. But every time Tyler make a joke at Rocky, he'd get mad, I'm laughing like a motherfucker.

And then like Rocky, he peeped out the corner of his eye and be like, so Tyler, shit the fuck up, yo. And then like, you know what I'm saying? Tyler peeped it. And then shit, like, we was walking out. You know what I said? We were chopping up. He said that he heard my music.

He was in motherfucking London on Rick Ruben. And then Rick Ruben had played the album for him. Shit like that. I'm like, oh yeah, so we for sure got to work. How about this, like that thought, Rick Rubin. played the album for somebody. This shit crazy. This shit, like, this whole thing take me down the iceberg.

So when Tyler told me that, I text Hove and Hove and Rick Ruben like this, and I was on Rock Nation at the time. And then I texted Hove. How fucking cool is your life? It's boring, I told you. I know, but I just said like... You're Sam backing, bro. Your life's fucking cool, bro.

You texted Hove. It's cool. I text him. I'm like, yeah, Tyler said he got on him through Rick Rubin. I want to work with Rick. Hold on. Let me text Rick. He texted him, showed me the screenshot here like, yeah, the shit.

It's true. You know, I said, we'll figure something. I ain't never worked with Rick, but I'm entirely got hell of shit in. How about Rick doesn't, I mean, like everybody's seen the viral video, him saying, like, I don't, I'm not formally trained in anything. I just have great taste. Oh, where he said that? Yeah, like he doesn't have any, like, technical expertise.

Like, he doesn't play instruments or, you know, he just kind of listens to music and he has, like, impeccable taste. Who do you think is somebody in the game that's got great taste for production? for the features that they choose for the concepts of their albums. Max O'Creen. I was just about to say. No, I agree. I don't just go on regular production.

That's the main thing to my shit. A lot of people that beat carry them, but they can't rap. So the beat could carry them and it could be easy. I'm going to rap hard, but I need to beat the carry too. Like we both push it. You know what I'm saying? So I'm very particular. I rap on shit that people wouldn't rap on just like bang the bus.

Like they kind of beat with Gianni. You know what I'm saying? That's what really got me back rapping. I like rapping on weird shit. Like, you know what I'm saying? Maxo type shit. Like, you know, just pushing myself. I don't like hearing the same shit.

A lot of people don't know he introduced a lot of people to the game. You were a big part of Playboy Cardi game found, right? Hell yeah, hell yeah. And like, how did you know he was gonna blow? Um, shit. Just, I didn't. I was just fucking with bro. Like, you know what I'm saying?

I didn't. He was, bro, was just cool. We were just rocking. I had met him at, um, like the first rolling. Like, right after Road on Loud, I often on Records had like a little festival. Yeah. So I had went over there. A few months later, it was South by South West.

And this is back in the day when we were just whooping ass and shit. That's what I heard, dude. I was whooping ass. Yeah. Yeah. We don't know why. Hell yeah. South by Southwest.

Because like we had some niggas that we were beefing with that was gonna beat us, so we were looking for them already and I brought all my niggas that be on that. So we just get into it with other random niggas. We got into it with some Detroit niggas. We, motherfucking, went to thrash here or feta for the son whooped them. I whipped the biggest kid. He kind of looked like you. He looked like, Book of Teeth.

He was who, he was whooping. He was whooping. I don't want to say who the fuck he was whooping, but we came for their help. You know what I'm saying? And I seen the dude and I squared up with him. My heart, I had the biggest butterflies in my stomach. But I'm just showing out and I swung and I hit his ass and he fell. And I jumped back in the crowd like, well, he ain't getting up.

And if he do get up, he ain't got on my ass, you feel me? We got to go. shit like that and then like in the middle of us fighting and then they're like, like, yo Max, I'm fighting with you, come on. We was just whooping ass. He thugged with us that night and from that night we had went and shot the cell boomin video. Okay. I don't know if you see, this is one that's one that got like Ben Staples, Lucky, father,

A, South Rocky. Yeah. Cardi. Yeah. So when you went to South by Southwest back in the day, like we originally for people listening like Maxo was going to link with us at Salify, and then, and then you, you know, And then we were like, I didn't work out. It's all good.

We'll catch him down the line. And they flew out to see us. Fucking awesome. But, you know, like... I thought this is better anyways. Yeah, dude, this is fucking awesome. You know, I needed somebody's ass to kick me out. So back in the days...

Back in the days, is that something y'all always had marked on the calendar? Like, yo, South by South... But yeah, like it was like a totally... Like, you go now, you did, like, what, tiny desk or something there? No, I did tiny desk in Houston, but... But you did something in South by a couple years ago, maybe.

Oh, hell yeah, a couple years ago for show. So, like, you go then and you're big time, like, but when you used to go, what was the point of going? Man, shit, I was passing our CD, spreading the word, like, meeting a lot of people. Like, a lot of people got onto my shit at Saabop. Because people used to go to listen to music. To get on new music. I always had crazy art cover.

We always stood out. We was always fly as fuck. All black, a hundred deep, you know what I'm saying? Marble through the streets, impact, but we pushed out music too. And it's just like, we out here like, bitch-ass, niggum, you feel? like that, but like my first time going to South Bar, I remember I seen, like, I walked on 6th Street, I've seen like a Kendrick School Boy show, like 2011. Yeah.

Something like that. Yeah. And like from South By, like from Austin back to Houston, we pulled over and we shot on my first music video called La La La. Yeah. How cool is it that you pop, like, it seems like off that Kendrick cover, like, you know, to be linked to Kendrick in that way? Well, I mean, it was cool.

Like, you know, like, shit, it was cool. You know what I got like a lot of, a lot of Redrick cover. recognition, a lot of people understood that I could rap. That was my first. I really taught myself how to rap. When we first started rap, I was just the older cousin that, older brother that sold weed. You know what I'm saying?

Inside the clip with like the doughboy. So my little cousin really brought me into that shit and I couldn't even like ice rap like, you say, get him, you say got them. Oh four air ones with the gum bottom. Like to nah, do da-da-da-da. Like you know what I'm saying? So I had to teach myself. And when you taught yourself like, let's say 10 years.

ago, how different was your flow? Like 15, 10, you know, when you started out, how different was your flow? Um, shit. I was like, I'm in love with the Lala, I call me Caramello. Fire Red Jordans like I'm walking with the devil dizzy, even some crack rocks, call it heavy metal. You did what I do like I rode it with a shovel. My bro moved pebbles ain't talking about Flintstones. The 40 o'clock and make you dip set like Jim Jones, Glock in my genetic, connected to my hip bone,

me and then hit your bitch back, peon pong. And we'll bring it to your house like Dean Don't Bean on your chest to get your shot. like King Kong. Bro, you remember all that. Hell yeah. So if you... That's back when I used to write music. I wrote that.

You wrote that shit in jail? I wrote that shit in jail. What's the difference though now? Like you said back when I wrote music. Yeah. Like you don't write it anymore? Nah, it was like training wheels, bro. It was like, you know what I'm saying?

I used to... I mean, it was hella lyrical and punchline jumpy. Yeah. But shit, it was like, you know, it was like training wheels. Nah, I just going on and go for all emotion. So do you think, like, you thought up that rhyme, like, today, like you would be rapping it in the same case? Or totally different?

It's like your thought process now, like from like back then when you used to write, when you're punching in now and the students- You talk about if I was rapping at this age or today age or if I was rap at this age today? Yeah, I just feel like you switch your flow up sometimes. Yeah, I do. Like in a verse, like you'll just, which is fucking cool as shit. And I also think what's cool about like songs these days is like when we were growing up, the music we were all listening to, it was like hook verse, hook verse, hook verse.

And I think music is cool now. and rap, like, people will deconstruct songs. And Kendrick does a great job of that. You know what I mean? Like, is that more freeing now to be a rapper than it probably would have been in the 90s? Yeah. Because, like, now, well, on rapping, you can use so much,

like music is so much. It's just how, like, they put, like, the Euro stuff and, like, you know what I'm saying? Search, in the NBA, if you go by the rulebook. So, like, instead of just doing, like, a hook versus hook, I go bridge, hook, verse, hook, then bridge. And then you can end the song like that because the bridge is like a refreshing hook that's still in the song that they forgot about. Yep.

You know what I'm saying? You won't even know you're in the bridge. Mm-hmm. Yeah, dude. Yeah. What about like writing now or not writing, but like thinking shit up, where do you have to be? Like what's the perfect scenario for you to actually like come up with some shit? I just stopped taking it.

So everything that you've been hearing, but I've had a raw, you know what I'm saying? I just stopped taking that. So all my new shit, some of my new shit is on Adderall. Right. But like now I just go, smoke. Smoke, I get hell of high. Like, just super duper high, like to where I feel like I'm out of space. I'm out of my body and I'm just one with the music.

Yeah. Then I just let it take me though. Yeah. So you were saying, you were writing, were you writing before you got in jail or was that something you started while, like, you were in jail? I wrote but I didn't take it serious. I probably wrote a couple songs. I wrote a song when I was 15, but I wasn't on shit for real.

Right. But like, when I went to jail, like, I was like, like, nine. 19, turning into 20. That's when I was like, I had to because I got out and there was niggas inside out of hood. They don't drop the music video. I don't know, you got me fucked up. It's all that shit, yeah. So just start writing.

Being competitive, you was like, you seen them drop one? You was like, you was like, you got to drop one? Hell yeah. Hell yeah. I'm buried. Like, everything I do, competitive, like, super competitive. So what, why did you start taking Adderall? Was it to party?

And then- Nah, I was making music, but it wasn't hitting. Like, it was probably right before I dropped quick strikes. You know what I'm saying? Probably like 2014. I was dropping shit, but wasn't hidden. But I popped the Adderall. And I made something the most crazy.

I wrote it too. I made something the most craziest shit. That's when I started making shit like, I made Whitney Houston, I made Lewinsky, I made grannies, I made motherfucking all the kind of shit. You know what I'm saying? Like roaches. Yeah. I think, yeah, roaches like a motherfucker.

So when you were writing those in the time and in the moment, like of those four songs, songs you just, like, you name, when you're writing them and you're recording them, are you saying in your head like, yo, these are bangers? Like I know these are bangers or are you, it's just a process. Like I'm banging these songs out. Let me get to the next one. I don't be knowing like I put my all into it goes to the next one. It's kind of like lifting.

Like you getting stronger. You're like, man, you probably did the strongest or the best rap you ever did. But you don't know because you're going on to like the next one. So it was like that. But now, roaches, I ain't right. I freestyle that. I started freestyle doing fetti. Yeah.

Once me and Cardi made fettie. Yep. Because there wasn't nobody else in there writing. And then like, we got getting still. We got two hours. I'm like, man, they ain't got time for this shit. Just giving the goddamn mic. We were playing way to the world earlier when we were working out.

By the way, Max says a beast in the fucking way road. Hell yeah. It's just a hoss, dude. We were playing way to the world. And it depended on the song, I feel like, the way your ears perked up. Like, do you like some of your songs more? Like, what's your favorite song off that album? Didn't it so goofy?

Talk about what they're gonna do to me. That was the one. So, Louis' me shoot. Yeah, FR, FR. Real real, real. Yeah. Because, like, I'm on their whole bouncing. Yeah.

But it's a chill beat. If you want to be chill, you can. But if you want to turn up, you can. I like that one. I like, don't play with shardy ass. I don't like 1159. I like the one with me and Freddie. Yeah, the one with you and Freddy's great.

Hell yeah. I like, on the left side, the one with me and Anderson Pot. Right. The Vision. What else I like on the, I like Mama's Purse. Mama's purse is great. I like, I'm worthless. Worthless.

That's when I heard you talk about Adderall. Hell yeah. Honestly, what, like, for me, I had just tried to get on the shit, like last fall, because I have like ADHD. New by bands, not, not, that's what I heard. I really do by bands. I just say Aderol so the world could get it. Hey.

You say, bybbing, they don't be like. How about the time I talk about medication the most is about, is around rich, successful motherfuckers? Because they all on them. I made a meal up them pills, man. Multiple pills off them pills. I don't know what it said. I sold them and I took them.

But, you know, I tried it and I'll never forget the first night I took it and I went home and smoked. And like I felt like a kid again. Like I just felt like my mind was open. It was like limitless, the movie Bradley Cooper. And then fucking Ford it. And I was telling people like, yep, I'm good forever. And I'm talking about it was like 10 milligrams.

I took the one that the blue one that lasts like longer. The Vibans or the extended release? No, the extended release. XR. And I couldn't fucking sleep. 10 milligram. So they put me on the IR and I was like, I'm never going back. A month in, bro.

I started waking up in the morning just like a fucking rattlesnake like mad at shit, just cussing shit out in the house. Like inanimate objects. Like cussing my clothes out. I'm like, man, there's something wrong here. And for me, it just. I feel like the come down off Adderall was too much. And so I quit, but I do miss the being locked in. I think creatively, like getting ready for this show, like thinking of funny shit to do,

questions to ask you, I wish I was on something. So maybe it's ViVance. Facts. I mean, for making music, I love it because like, shit, there's a college campus around. They, shit. A lot of people graduate, up the motherfuckers. So, you know what I'm saying? I made music off the motherfuckers.

But I took it one time, rolling loud, LA, 2017. It was my best performance. That's when I invented the turnaround spin kick. I rocked the fuck out that motherfucker off the Adderall. I was doing too much. I had brought a bitch with me. I was being cool with. But when I popped to Adderon, I'm tucking her down on the side of the stage.

I'm doing all kinds of shit. Yeah. Out of character. Rappers, yeah. Rappers I never talked to. I seen him. Social. What up, niggas.

That's work, yeah. Then I was the morning. Dude, he's texting me, dude. Like, the fuck. I'm friendly. Fuck these Adderall. Yeah. Are rappers friendly with each other?

Or is there like a, like, because I feel like there's a lot of album. Yeah, I got a lot of respect. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So like, really like the rap shit is like 20% music, 80% of the shit. But my 20% of the music, it have artists like, you see how I'm entirely, man, it's really like the music. You know what I'm saying?

Like shit, like everything I do really be like the music. I don't got no antics. I don't got no going by a rad shit. Yeah. I just drop my shit and put on these clothes and they like it, shit, fuck with me. the the the rap beats man like i feel like we were talking about this last night a little bit just the way people resolve conflict and shit and and people don't want to talk things out like like men sometimes but like fucking it feels like right now to be a rapper it's the most

dangerous time ever because of all the inputs for conflict you know what i mean like there's the internet there's fucking blogs everybody's got a podcast like in the 90s i feel like you'd have to like be around somebody or wait for the me on the song or be in an interview in the source. Like now I feel like something can pop off like that. For sure. I mean, I'd be watching like these hip-hop documentaries, everybody had beef. It showed a nods, ho.

Yeah. Nah, fucking Jarru. I'm like, what the fuck they beep? Shit like that. So they had beef. But it's more broadcast it now. Yeah. And even in the 90s, bro, with Tupac Biggie.

Yeah. Yeah. So that shit, it just comes with the sport. But you got more street niggas getting on. Because back in there, a lot of rappers wasn't street niggas. Now you actually go and look at it. Look at our documents, look at our passing shit. You can see that shit, you know what I'm saying?

Like, it's way more real gangster street niggas raping, real drug dealer trappers now than ever. And there's more rappers. Than ever. Because you can become a rapper by pushing your shit. I feel like TikTok did that though. Like before TikTok it was really about goddamn. Because now we get some head-ass rappers.

It'd be some head-ass rappers, bro, because of TikTok. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. You make money off TikTok? Have. I don't think I have. I don't know how to use that motherfucker. Like, nah, I'm lying.

Ticot just ain't for me, like, I'd be on that motherfucker. Not for me either. Hey, Tichak, I love y'all, though. Y'all don't get back. You know what I'm saying? Let's do it, man. You know, I've seen Sgtowl'Ban make that money, ain't a fool. Now I'm all for it.

I don't get on there. But you know what I'm saying? It's like, I ain't come up like on Tick-T-T-T. Talking about how you came up, what'd you listen to? Everything. My pleasure to go from Naws, Papoos. We were talking about Pappas earlier. Yeah, yeah.

To Lil B, to the cool kids. Yeah. To like, motherfucking goddamn shit, dipset, hell of Lil Wayne. Yeah. OD on Lil Wayne. Like, that's why I rap. He said last night, can I tell him which Carter you thought was the best? Yeah.

Carter 3. You agree? I think so. Wow. I don't know. It's just fucking hard to pick one, man. I could make an argument for all of them. Wayne had a lot of great stuff.

See, people only be going like, you got to look. I say, um, the black is hot, 500 degrees, quarter three. Damn. I'm gonna saw, like, we grew up on Hot Boys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, we been new Hula Wayne. Yeah, it's like different. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And our, black is hot, was crazy. Was the craze, like, for the time in the 90s, Sean, like, because LA showed you the game banking. Right. East Coast showed you everything. You know what I'm saying?

Like, but like, they down south, like, bro, like, whenever you see things, you You see niggas downside with a hundred guns outside in front of our apartments and shit. That's just the hot boys, bro. Back when they juvenile hot, you know what I'm saying, video type of shit. Oh, yeah. They have movies. So you're like, downside. Exactly.

The movies. You remember the movies? Yeah, they got bottle blocking. Houston got dirty third, shit like that, you know what I'm saying? Like, they're like, they're my cousins for real. Like Louisiana, right there, like, Lloyd, the one that you woke. Yeah, you know, son from the Wallin's ya. Yeah.

Yeah. I used to listen to 504 boys back in the back in the movie. Yeah. Bill Wibbe Master Pee. I was just listening Young Bleed. You remember Young Bleed? I'm a little old. He was back in the No Limit days when Snoop was with No Limit.

Have you met Snoop yet? I ain't never met Snoop, but shout out Snoop. He had DM me one time. He had like a comedy show or something. Yeah. He just DM me like, yo man, you know, if you got your mom or your aunties, anybody want to come by the show, I got tickets. Ooh.

I like, for show, then I'm like, Snoop, you slick motherfucker. Yeah. But if you're going to talk to anybody, talk to my mama? Yeah. I'll play. He's cool, bro. But shit, you know, he's rich. You know what I'm saying?

Real Crip, like, that's a Martha Stewart Crip. I want to be able to be 50 years old, popping this Crip shit on Martin Stewart. That's what I was going to ask you is like for, you know, for being a Crip and seeing someone like Snoop and seeing how marketable and commercial like he is and making a bag in different areas, is that something that like is like the ultimate goal. For sure, that's why I'm on this podcast, working out hog hunting, and doing all my personality. People don't know that I'm really fun.

I'm funny as fuck. Yes, you are. You know what I'm saying? I don't really know. Yes, you are, dude. You know what I'm saying? I'm Charleston White funny. That's funny, dude.

He's funny in the bitch. Hey, I send you shit from him all the time. I'm like, really? I can't retweet this shit, but you got that. Charleston White and Funny Marco. That's funny. You know who Funny Marco is? Hell you.

Yeah. Marco is, yeah. He don't want to always look at you stupid. Yeah. I met him at the Super Bowl. I gave him $500 the casino and he didn't turn down. He was like, yeah, I'll take it. I'll take it.

I was like, Jesus Christ, you're supposed to say, no, I got my own money. I got a fucking. No, hell no. Yeah, what's the athlete's money? Right? I told Chris, if he ever, if he offers any black person free money, they're never going to turn it down. Yeah, brother's reparations.

Yeah. Hey, listen. Over square. Okay. No, I mean, like, when it comes to meeting older guys, older rappers like Snoop or, I don't know if you met Cube or. I mean, Ice Cube. But like, have you met a lot of the older guys you grew up listening to?

Have you met Scarface? Hell yeah, I met Scarface. Scarface is funny as shit. Scarface, Hove. Yeah. Nah. I mean, Nah, the Head Boy Studio. Yeah.

Have I made a comedian before? I tried to introduce myself. You like, Nick, I know who you is, Maxo Cray. That's cool. I'm like, damn. That's cool. You know, um. Be a legend.

Who the fuck I meet Papoose yet? Foggle Papu's, um, but I don't want to be getting star struck over no goddamn artists like that. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm saying, shout my boy, Steve, Francis. Who would you be the most star-struck? Me.

All right, Kobe. Kobe. Probably like LeBron, because I had on LeBron so much. Yeah. And I only had on LeBron because, look, though, I only had on LeBron. Like, LeBron was my favorite rookie player of all the time. I love LeBron. Yeah.

But my brother used to whip my ass so bad with Moe Williams and LeBron. You know, like, that 2K shit makes you talk to the other people that you might fuck with. And I'm like, fuck LeBron, slow, flat-foot-ass, nigga. He can't do nothing without a pick and roll. Kobe, because I saw everything and make a harder. Kobe will do everything in the world and make sure that's a 3.9 and stand right here and make the most uncomfortable two-pointer on earth. It was just exciting to watch.

LeBron, like, you know what I'm saying, like that, but I love LeBron. Can I ain't anybody fucking with that nigga? Like, you know what I'm saying right now? Yeah. He is legend. I don't see him slowing now. I see LeBron being another nigga that got the best car to Jerry Rice long-ass career. Like, we ain't going nowhere.

I don't know, though, because I feel like he wants to get Bronny in the league, play with him, and then get out. Yeah, but shit, nigga, LeBron, look, if Brunner started getting too good, Brum on bust his ass. We hear it. You know what I'm saying? That's what I feel. If I had a son, he comes to the league, like, yeah, it's cool.

You play with me. Now, if you did so bad, you day can do all this shit, I'm going to bust your ass. I'm going to make you hurry. My time I retire, maybe you can come do what I'm doing. That's fucking awesome. Have you heard any athletes rap that you think can actually rap? No. Shack did decent on their ensemble zero.

Yeah. Javel McGee sent me some shit. I got to go listen to it again. He said to me back in the day. See, you don't want to get in trouble with Javelle McGee. That's the fucking, I told him a story last night, which people on this podcast have heard before, where I extended a dapp at the supper club in L.A., dude. I was fucking wasted.

I was white guy wasted. walking through the club. I said, holy shit, Cheval McGee, it's the guy I play 2K with. I get buckets with this guy. I'm going to daff him up. I go to daff him up

and he just walks right past, right over me. He like, you know, just looks at the top of my head. For real? Yeah. Hey, Javelle, this fucked up,

my nigga. See? See? See? And then I heard that this is my nigga Chris, my name. Yeah, exactly, dude.

We work out of the bench press. Nick, you don't do that to my partner, to my workout partner. Exactly, bro. Exactly. You know, Dame is pretty good. Lily.

Yeah, hell, y'all. Yeah, D.D. Cole. As a matter of fact, he need to send me something. KD got some shit too. Yeah. I don't play with K. Oh, yeah, KD. Kevin Duran, yeah, man.

And Shumpert. I thought Shumper was pretty good. Yeah, now, his shit was cool. Yeah, yeah. His shit was cool. Yeah. And anybody fucking with Iverson, Jay to Kiss. And that one Reebok commercial making the day.

Oh, my God. That was the best. That was the best commercial. And, like, best NBA production, it got to be Jason Woods. Mm-hmm. Do-do-do-do-do. Oh, yeah. Like the whole little like his shit.

Hell yeah. That was a crazy era. You mentioned Zero. Get it in AI. Go get the A-I. Just thinking about Houston rap. Like, it's funny because growing up, I didn't listen to a ton of Houston rap like a teenager. I was on the New York rap.

And then you know what album it was that got me into it was Mike Jones, which is fucking crazy to say. How important is that album? Is that album important? I fuck with it. But I was more like, I generally all they mix takes more than they album. Yeah. So I'm saying. Like, that's what I'm like, who, Matt, so.

Yeah. So, like, I repeat a lot of shit. Yeah. Or like, that's how my breed is come. Like, you know how he just repeat like, like, a couple of phrases. I bring the whole four bars back that I thought was catchy that wasn't the hook, but could be the semi-hook. You know what I'm saying?

So I'll bring that back. I guess there's like some repair to Mike Jones. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? He reminded me, everybody knew his phone number, the whole country. Yeah. And I just think what was, to me, was like, a lot of white kids got into Houston rap because of Mike Jones, which is funny as shit.

Like, you know what I mean? That album, for real, I played it for like two years. It was amazing. But like if, let's say somebody's never heard Houston rap and you have like an afternoon with them, what are you going to play them? Old school or new school. See, you can mix it up. Got a couple hours.

I'm gonna play them June 27. You know what I'm saying? Some big moat. Take them through the pokie. Take them through some Hawk. Take them through some Axel for show. Yes. I'm taking them to old school Zerong Trey.

That's when they was rapping. Them n'n' them. They had to be on Adirond or something. They were rapping. They ass off. Like that when I go back to that shit and hear them niggas back on the same shit, Zero on Trey is the number one duo to come out of Houston. You know, Trey got blackball.

Trey got some shit too. He got shit with Lil Wayne. All kind of shit. You know what I take them through that. Just like, you know, like some history foundation. What's going on? Now, I play me again, I play some Don Tolliver, I put a little bit of saucewalk in there. You know what I'm saying?

I'm just like, I'm trying to get a real Houston like what's going on. Throw some little Jeremy. What else we got going on? Casey G. Josh Kinkley, the whole son of shit. You know what I'm saying? Cartelbow, you know what I'm saying? For sure. Like, ghetto gospel, that's my shit, saucewalking.

Yeah, yeah. Fuck with that. So how about this, Chopped and screwed. Explain Chopton Screw for someone who's not from Houston or from Texas. And how do you feel about that? Yeah, I never heard Chopton Screw or Screw ain't do it. If that screw ain't do it, they ain't real chopped to screw. Everything else been, I mean, no, some of the DJs probably know how to do it, like, Michael

Wats, nigs around that time, get the real screw. Yeah. But they don't like... But what technically makes it like, or screw? How don't it do it? They slow it down. But like, you slow it down. But you gotta be off the lean, preferably the activists or the Alps or the screw.

or the Alforma to really know that real lean, like that real, like, it's a certain slur to it. I'll be doing all my songs, you know what I'm saying? So you have to be on lean to really feel, to be on the tempo of what you're trying to create? I mean, no, because you know, you got all kind of programs now. But to get the real tempo, that real feel, you gotta be out there juice, you gotta be feeling it. Like the engineer is SIP in Houston.

You can have a real productive as an engineer that Sip Lean. Yeah. For real. So, yeah. What goes into a lean habit financially and fucking. from like a lifestyle standpoint, what does it actually do to you? Like while you're on lean, are you like, hey, I'm slipping up in this area. So shit, you got like, I always sit purple lean.

Always been like the purple lean connoisseur and red lean because that's considered purple lane like the top shelf shit. So I would like shit. Back when I was sitting in act, I used to sell act. I had to get pints for like 350 to 600. You know what I'm saying? And then sell them 50 line, 60 line, shit like that. So I was selling that so that shit wasn't that bad.

And when I stopped, like, laying one up to like a hundred in a line. So shit. And how many lines in a bottle? Like 16, so they'd be 1600. But then when I stopped, stop, stop, I was buying, I was like 25 or 3,000. Right now, I pints 6,000. For me, because like, if I'm really sipping like that, I'm gonna cut, no, not 6,000. I'm having more 5,000.

Pants 5. But there's something like, man, look, I need that pint, nigga. I'm gonna see. That's expensive. I'm gonna pay. You can't pay. You know what I'm spending? But you go with everything.

You got your chrome hard on. You got your lean. You got, but yeah, that shit expensive than the motherfucker. That's why I stopped. I used to buy two pints a week at 3,000. So that was six, like I'm 54 times 12. I was angry than the motherfucker fat as hell. Really?

It makes you... I always been a big nigger, but I know when I'm fast-sloppy when I'm the son of max-so fat. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, nah. Was it like fast sloppy because you just wasn't working out? You just wasn't doing nothing or just... I didn't start working out until last year. Really?

Hell yeah. What made you start? My daughter. Word. Well, yeah, a lien habit. That shit expensive, bro. Or you sip green lien. What's green lien?

That's the shit that I ain't gonna say the broke niggins sip. It's like the wooded nudge you. That's Reggie. Yeah. Yeah. But that shit, but it knocked y'i, though. Probably more expensive than Reggie though. Who?

Not really, bro. You get a pint of green lien for $80. No shit. If some, you can upcharge me. If I ever get in the lien. Upcharge me. But shit, you can take that shit to Cali's Chicago on Sheets. That shit, 30-ed line.

like 25 for line. Since 80 of a pint to do the math, it's 16 lines at 30. Can you go on stage high or on lean? Hell yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I stopped sipping lean, but I sit on certain occasions like my daddy death day, my brother death day, something like that.

We from Texas, like Texas tea, you're doing a toast. Yeah. Like, should I come sit with you? I don't get addicted. Yeah. Like I don't need like, I don't got no lien with me. I got weed for show. Right.

So I don't get addicted. So I sip not too long ago, went to Texas Tech. I performed. I was on stage, jump, asked these and they're like, how the hell this nigga do all this shit? And they just sipped that. Like, the show. Does it fuck you? All right, here's a dumb question, but does it fuck the grill up?

The grill? Like, does it stand the grill? I mean, you gotta go get the clean. That's a tough combination. Eating food. Nah, I don't stand it. Okay. I feel like shit eating food standing more.

Really. So Chris think about getting one. I'm thinking about getting one. Come to Houston, bro. Really? So who's the jeweler? Like, do you get all your- You want a grill, you gotta go to Johnny Dang.

Because he shit for like a glove, you feel me? Yeah. You don't want no baggy ass, hard ass, big boker. Like, you ever see a nigga they got a gruel and they're like, can't, like, can't close their mouth? You know what I want? Like, this is a pull-out man. Like, bad veneers.

Like, look, this looks like, perm. Yeah, yeah. But put out. Oh, you can pull it right out, Paul? Yeah. Jeez. Okay. Hey, hey, but, but like, you go to one jeweler for you.

all this stuff? Hell no. I can walk through it. This Ice Man Nick, you need to fix my fucking chain. Okay. I owe you money. Fix my chain and we can figure it out, niggas. But yeah, shout out Ice Man, Nick.

I spent so much about the whole crew chains and shit over the up. Just had my brother pitch on it, but it came out to be sweating. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Got diamonds on the back. Triple stack. Then got the ender cuts in the front. You know what I said?

I'm supposed to say crink fell off. But the click fell off. But guess what? I'm such a real nigga. I'm a key rocking this shit. Is it bad for him to ask me if that's like a Ranger over or like a Kia or Probably on even if it's a fucking Kia. I like a Lambo. Damn, I was truck like a years.

A Uris, Jesus. He's got a Uris on his neck. I'm going to tell you how much I paid. No, I'm not going to. I don't never. So the price I tell you, I don't never pay this shit. I don't care what you will get mad. Right. I'm going to tell you how much they told me to say shit cough.

Okay. So shit. It's pinned it. You probably get it. get for like 70k. I understand why there's... It's Cuban League, you probably get it for like 60. I understand why there's a whole industry for robbing people.

Like, I totally get the reason to rob people. But no, but custom, Drew, you can't buy, like, you can't sell us like that. Somebody's going to want, you don't want your name. You don't want to melt the down. Right, you can't be walking around. Something like that. So all together is like 130. Golly.

Yeah, let me see. So I got this from Iceman Nick. I got this from Journey Day. I see this is gonna shit nothing. I didn't wear everything either. I see that- I'm doing stupid now. I'm growing.

I'm buying real estate and shit. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah. But yeah. This is an infamous persona pendant done by Icebox. Probably they said, they mean, that they end up fight. I'm in that fight, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

They tax the shit out of them. They tax the fuck out of me. Probably like 50. Okay. I'm capital. Let me see you. That's an F-150, base model. No, no, no, 50.

Yeah. Probably like 45. Something like that. And is that something that like... And then this Cuban right here, you got the baguettes in it, my father. You know, I look at talk about my jury. No, this is cool. Yeah, no, see.

I don't get to look at stuff like this a lot. This probably like... Not a big jewelry, chat. It's probably like 700 grams on this Cuban. Jeez. This one probably would like 500. No what I'm saying? With the, um...

They're not... Not emerald, but what's the other baguettes? See, I can't trust myself with you. that something that expensive yeah because i'm gonna lose it i had a brightling i lost it it wasn't like that my boy jimmy boy yeah jimmy boy the handicapped criffin yeah that's dope what i'm saying that's super cool with the begets busts all the way down you know what i'm saying with the little boy cubing look yeah yeah yeah i'm gonna say this price is because it was kind like hey it wasn't a gil but it was like a gift then i got my watch two-tone ap

this the in this factory too with it like things you're thinking like you know what i'm saying i can Sirky Sillers, get my, because, like, there's no prongs. Yeah. And it's real two-tone. You can see it from the inside, the real old. A lot of people get, like, the stainless ones and just get an airbrush. This not that. I wouldn't do that.

Everything, like, ain't none of these diamonds poking out. Everything is flat on the watch. God. That's right. You know what I'm saying? I paid 54K4 when I first got it. It's going for, like, $100. And it's a Super Bowl ring.

I know. That was dope. This is the first thing. I was like, man, I should have brought mine in. But mine's not worth as much as that thing. I can tell you that much. Have you ever been sold anything fake and found out later? Hell now.

I've been sold motherfucking. Okay. They're still in them fake, though, but shit. They had played with the diamonds. I had assizes in that motherfucker. It was VBSs and like Vs and shit. So I had to go really go get the specs on all my dream and shit. And they redid it for me.

Shout out to them. It wasn't they fault. So I made a mistake in that motherfucker. They redid it for me. Yeah. Then, like, they put me on checking all the rest of the jewelers. Yeah. I really built that relationship with them, like, through child and error and shit like that.

They were in there. I used to have rope chains. Yeah. But foe. Everybody know, like, you got a Cuban. You know how it is to convert from a cuban to a rock. These Cubans ain't cheap. Yeah.

I bet. Fuck. They ain't cheap, bro. So through the whole conversion time and shit like that, like, I got episodes on the Icebox channel with me updating my jury, getting my jury up to, like, where it is today, you feel? Is that something like for you as a rapper, did you feel like you had to go buy jewelry from Ice Box?

Man. Nah, because when I first started, I was just like in Supreme Pieces, Gold Yard pieces, Hell of Red Supreme. I was mowed on that shit with like a gold grill. But then like I was like, shit, I'm getting this money, ya, and I might as well pop it. I'm from Texas. Right. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like the diamond capital. Yeah. You feel, me like shit. So I just got into it, but I don't buy jewelry no more. I could have been with big man. Hell now. Yeah. Now I'm more into buying cars and like, you know what I'm saying, buying property.

What kind of car? I've heard you talk about a Matt Black Rover. Yeah. So, yeah, the Matt Black Rover, that's one from the Fitty video. That's the one I bought off, like, weed. Yeah. So it meant a lot to me. Yeah.

I got the Matt Black Lambo now. Stepped it up. Yeah, yeah. I had the Black S550, but got rid of that one, got a new white S 550, got rid of that, then got the Lamb truck. You seem like a truck guy, though. I am. I am.

The luxury trucks, but I can see you job in a pickup truck, too. I got one coming. I got T.R.X coming soon. But I got the lamb truck. I got the track hawk. Then I had got a old white bench, my baby mama. Yeah. Bought my mama a car.

I bought her two cars. You know what I'm saying? But one fucked up. That's how cars do. I bought my sister a car. I gave my mom my black rover too. Yeah. But it flooded during Hurricane Harvey.

Oh, shit. Yeah, with all the hurricanes down there, man, like I know Katrina was crazy because people came from everywhere. Like this motherfucker, right? Yeah, I know. Yeah. But like what changed in the city and then like for you where you were at that point in your life, like what changed?

Man, so like I feel like I was a bad kid. I was thugging. I was crippling and shit. But when Katrina hit, that's when I got gangster. I was stugging with them. You know what I'm saying? That's when I got introduced like crack cocaine and shit. Like settling and shit like that.

Like you know what I said, I did with that one that shit with it. That was never really me. Right. I don't sew everything. Like, Shirm sticks, all that shit. I don't like the fiends. I don't like how they come. Have you ever smoked a shirm stick by accident?

Ha, ha. You funny as shit. I'm just wondering. I never spoke to Shurn stick, but I had bought some weed for some niggas at TSU, and I thought it was Dallas Corn, and it was really Shirm. So what's that feel like? Explain what Shirm is for... Angel Dust, right?

Yeah, PCP, Andrew Dust. I think Angel Dust might be actual dust, or they might call it that way. I didn't see Angel Dust. I see motherfuck of water, shirms, gallons, and that shit, you know. I'm saying. You know, it's tick. What does it feel like? It's like, man, I didn't even know I was on it.

I had spoke with some chick and she ended up going to the hospital and was like, oh, you put me on fucking. I'm like, I'm like, shit, we went to a party and the niggas that I bought it from, they sparked us some insurance sticks. We ended up fighting them nix plething on my own. Then I called the girl like, yeah, be careful buying from these weird ass niggas, as a matter of fact, this gets all your weed for me. Right.

You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. When it became, when it changed from weed to like Coke or whatever, like how hard was it to learn to actually cook? Easy, my brother is a fucking chef. Shout out, drank you Jew. You know what I'm saying? Like yeah, like he's real, I call him the friar.

You know what I'm saying? He could really get down. Me, they, like, you know what I'm saying? He showed me and shit, but they wasn't just like, you know, I'm like, let me sell his weed. Or like, I hold his shit. Like hit his place. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? But for me it was more like, you know what I'm saying? The weed and shit. I got a song, I did on the Tyler Bee called Crack at 15. I was selling Crack at 15. Riding Hunter, Civic that I rented for the things I had a glial before, chopped and bought the AR 15. Chopper or Daughter 3, Baysal, they be Beezoo jeans.

Shit like that. That lines up fashion-wise too. Hell yeah. That's how I dress to this day. Like Letterman's, E. Bezels. You know, the only thing they might change is like Chrome Heart. I throw a lot of Chrome or my brand persona. I mix my brand with all that shit.

We had a bunch of, I had a bunch of LR. Why the hell we didn't bring no persona? Yeah. That was up with that. You gotta get some. You gotta sit on. I came out here, bro. Yeah.

We're coming. Yeah, we're coming. Yeah. Fuck yeah. Hey. Do a podcast and I can bring my friends. Yes. Yes.

Yes. I'm gonna try to bring Misskin O.T. Yes, dude. Bring him. Let's do it. And we're gonna, we're gonna do shit outside there too. But like, uh. Wings in a strip club.

Let's talk Houston sports, man. Because like, I saw you got painted up and you were at Texans game. Seems like good time to be a Texans fan. Mexico. How are we feeling about the Texans, man. I love him. Shout out, Digg. Are you FaceTime on?

Yeah. Hopefully he'd pick up. I was, yeah, I love that. He used to always pick up. He barely on a do this to me on a fucking podcast. Dude, whenever I do it, yeah, I get stood up all the time. He's going to hit you back. It's earlier, I mean.

Ah, fat bitch. Dude, this guy, hey, that guy, the way he rolls is ours on the song is fucking crazy, dude. Right, right, right. Like, he's got the most unique, like, kind of like, I don't know. I don't know who he reminds me of anybody. That's the cool thing about him. Man, he himself, but the way he rolled him, he, bro, every R he do, he really rolling. I'm like, what, I'm like, holy shit.

Because we took the song in the mix and master. Hold on this bitch rolling this R. Yes. Ain't chinching on the south side, right? It's cool as shit. And then the other guy was telling you. The Spanish alphabet got the double R's. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, fucking, the reason I know Maxo is because Nate put me on to him, I don't like listen to rap actively anymore when someone He puts me on to something I like. I can't get enough of it. But I'm not out looking for it. And two weeks ago, my brother Kyle put me on to Big X, the plug. And I think he's fucking. Hey, you know that Big X bought me just for my birthday?

What do you buy you? It's Chrome Heart. Hey, shut up the Big X. Really? Sure, yeah. I bought the pants. I was in Chrome Heart and seen the Pins. I got a grad though.

Yeah. Yeah, man. Shout out my nigga Big X for Plug, man. Dude. That guy's amazing. That's my brother, man. That song, I love that song, Levels. That's the one I've been popping my shit on the whole other.

Yeah, dude. You get into the devil. That's hard. That's all right. Fucking song, dude. All right, well, how about the Texans? Let's talk about the Texans, man. What's the expectation in 2000?

We were going to the Super Bowl. I said it when, like, I've been a Texas fan, you know what I'm saying? But I've been to sit out, like, bro, we're going to the playoffs this year for show. C.J. Strahl, he was in his bag. You know what I'm saying? That's a little bro. Shout out him. You know what I'm saying?

He was in his bag. going crazy, I'm at all the games. Every game I went to, we won. Yeah. I ain't say I'm the lucky charm, but I'm there. You better get a good thing. I'm paying the face. I'm supposed to do tailgating, but he woke me up late.

Because he was on madden losing. Probably until two in the morning, yeah. He was on madden all right. Probably until two in the morning. Fucking, were you at that Tampa game? Were they like one in the last minute? Did you get up there? The Tampa game?

It was like 59-57, dude. C.J. He had under a minute to go. That's what we'll do. We're going to a Texans game. Let's go to a Texan game. We're going to, yeah, dudes there. We're hoping to get CJ on soon.

Hell yeah. Because I got to get C.J. on soon. We're hoping to get C.J. on. And we go to the strip club. Yeah, so talk to me about the Houston strip clubs. Area 29, man. That's my home. But it's like, you know how.

Um, Feature said, Magic City. I'm the owner. I own Eric 29, man. Me and DJ Eric, for real. Like, you know what I'm saying? Shout out team, Chris, man. Like, that's the club show me the most love, bro. I just love it.

The way you light up when I go to strip clubs is awesome. Man, because Air 29 is the club, bro. DJ Eric, that's like the niggum. What is it about strip clubs? I mean, besides the obvious. I don't know what fuck about strip clubs. The food be cool, babe. At Eric 29, like, Eric, that's my, like, anything.

He ain't going on the city, he let me know. He was like, you know, like, Drake having some property shit. He wants you to come. Yeah. Pull up. I've been at the Drake shows all that shit. It's been like, everybody. $20?

Oh, no. They're $200. Oh, they'd be 50. Oh, they'd be 50. Yeah, hook ain't, nothing to do with the club. Yeah, I'm buying the hookah. I'm buying the hookah like a motherfucker, you feel me? What's some conversation cost there?

I'm just talking about conversation. Shit, free? Free? Free. But then they're gonna ask you, you get in the band? Yeah. But like, it's like, like, it ain't like, though. like titty bar like yellow rose and you go they sit in your lap.

Man niggas come out with them, damn, throwing money on. You're gonna look at him like, holy fuck, my wife's gonna kill me. Let me get 10K. Tish long, you know, I'll f-b-b-b-b-b-bh. The sparklers come out. It's coming or not. I'm fuck, dude. Let me ask you this.

No, I got what you're not necessarily broke, but you would do, you got, you got $200 in your pocket. How are you freaking it at the strip club? I'm gonna tell you what I do. If I only got $200, if I'm at the street club. I'm going to have my shiasty mask on. I'm being in there. I'm going to have Lord, like, how much he's doing that?

That's Chris Long where he's from. He's 30-kid. Let him come out. If I ain't know you, I'm just saying. No, I know. Hey, fuck. I'm like, big. Gun-taking.

I would find. They're going to come out of the back, though. I'm going to up on your ass. Hey, listen. You better not move because we're going to get the air in this house because I only got $200. Hey, speaking of our trip to Houston, do we get security at this fucking nightclub? Because now- Hell yeah, security.

Come to think of it, I look like food. Hey, bro, you don't need security, man, you with me. Yeah, dude. And nobody's gonna play with us. They're gonna play dead for they play with us. I love that. I love that. They're like not on it.

Not even on some tough shit. It's on bits of neck. My hood right there. So if anybody plays. I'm a friendly motherfucker. I like to keep it moving, man. You get in front of my hood. It's not like that.

You're gonna be, they're gonna love you, bro. Tommy G. Yeah. Hell yeah. I did the whole Tommy G. What would you do? What? Okay, give me a tip for somebody

that might want a stripper to go away. Maybe the stripper's a little bit. Don't give her a band. It'd be like, get out my section. But like, you know how they sit down and they're like, hey, what you? Bitch, did you hear me? Eric, come get her.

That's how a lot of people get in trouble. Yeah, Matt wants to be asked about James Hardin. He's a big NBA head. And I think you might know James. Did I hear that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he's a legend in those establishments. For sure, for sure.

Hardin the nigger. Hardin the nigger, man. That's who fuck it up. Hardin. I don't know how to say these people. No, you don't have to say names. But let me ask you this. Let me ask you this.

I got one to that. Chapman Scott fucking them too. I bet. I bet, dude. That guy's a rock star. I saw him at Bonaroo and he was riding a fucking 60-foot dragon. He was like up on top of this fire-breathing piece of the set. It was like a rock and roll concert.

Have you ever played it in Bonarue? What hell is that? Tennessee. It's like Coachella been in Tennessee. That's a festival? Yeah. Now, I did. Governor's Ball, Coachella.

A lot of Palooza. Now, hey, what about booking agent? I want to do Bonnaroo. Dude, do, my, hey, what the fuck? I think I'm eligible for that. Hey, we used to go, we used to go, like, every year, get a bus and, like, me, like, five of my buddies, their wives, and, like, we go out there, some of my teammates, and they have, like, a golf cart service.

They take you to every stage, and you stand up in the VIP. You're in, like, the artist tent. You meet motherfuckers back there. It's super cool. I mean, like, it's a big-ass festival. It's like the size of Coachella, I would say. Yeah. So we were talking about strip clubs and James Harden.

I'm going to ask you this. When you see athletes out partying, do you notice the difference in the personalities between football and basketball players in the way to carry ourselves in clubs? Football players just be, like, normal. One of the guys, you know what I'm saying? Like, more down the earth.

Yeah. Like, football players be more like gang-in. Like, nah, bro, this is my brother. I don't care if this is the sergeant's going to team. He's with us. Like, we don't go fuck by nothing that shit. We're getting everybody in the club. Yeah, yeah.

NBA players act like rappers. They'd be known in the bitch too. They'd be like, how long? What's going on? Hold on. I'm fake, boojy. I don't see you. Hey, hey, I see you.

You know what I'm saying? Hey, he's doing some old funny-ass shit like that. Not with me, but even like, but I feel like they all motherfucking genuine because it's like shit. We want to be NBA players. They want to be rappers. Yeah. So shit. We were all successful.

Yeah. You know what I'm saying? But they just don't bring their bitches around the rappers, though. Yeah. They know better, bro. They know better. They know better. Hey, how about this?

Motherfuckers bring their significant others court side down in Houston or... Yeah, but look, I'm gonna say for it in the NBC, tricking at all time high. Yeah. The rappers don't got that, motherfucker, NBA money. They don't got that. I don't go for who you is. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, the top rapper got a rookie contract.

That's what I'm saying. So she... So, like, when you're in their world, if you take a check to like, you know, the, I don't know what the fucking state. is down there. But like, if you sit courtside with your, with your wife, like, that could go bad, dude. Yeah, nah, you got to go get you a motherfucker. Like, it's the skybox. You're like, baby, you see them these little motherfuckling, man? They're tiny's hell down. These little bitches down here, dude.

They go hand-in-hand, though, just entertainment, like, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. But it's just like, it's just going like this. Because, like, the rappers in the, and the athletes been competing all the way through school, I think. The rappers ain't with the cool, popular kids. Yeah. They're fucking the holes. Then y'all was just fucking all the holes. The job. It's the same thing.

Like, you feel me? Yeah. The thing is, though, in school, I was so cool. My brother's an athlete. My little brothers and them, they was the athletes and the cool niggas at the same time. I was fucked up. I'm like, oh, so you go to the pep rally. I couldn't, because they said I'm an excited game right.

But you just beat up three niggas, and then you in the pet rally with the jersey on. I'm like, God damn. That's so fucking funny. Like, bro, high school, I ain't gonna lie for us. You were just a menace, huh? Hell, yeah, I loved it too. You were just like, because I was the men, it was like, freshman sophomore year, selling trucks, bringing guns to school fighting.

Then, like, junior year, senior year, the prank's taking people, eating people houses, taking people motherfucking tires off of this shit. Like, once I got to the suburbs, I showed them how to thug. I'm like, bro, we might go get a hundred hamsters let them off in the school.

We put baby y'all on the floor. Like, I don't know like the nurse day. Hold on, hold on, hold your horses. Hold your thought, man. Don't get lost. So look. We used to put baby y'all on the floor and like, you know those nerves that run to their own lunch,

they'd be busting their ass. Hard. And look, I remember the, oh, so look, they knew that Creen Click had something to do with it. Like in school, like, I was game banging, but as far as school, you know, you young, we was a fly click. We had like kicks, real, everything around me. That's Creme. So we had all the Jordans, all the sneakers, the snapbacked, skinny, all that shit.

So look, the principal came to lunch and made the announcement, like, yeah, we're on to you guys, just putting all the baby all inside the hallway. We don't want to see it again. If we catch you, you get an expel. And when he stepped off, he stepped in the baby all, that's ass, you know? Went out of history. Went out of the history. It was going down.

You know what I'm Then like it was his fat-ass teacher. She had, um, she had, um, testified on, like, a couple of my, um, well, my homie, Terrell. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Terrell Clemens back when I, they were, like, robbing houses and she. And we got her ass. She shot with some stiletto, so big black ass.

She felt bust out. Bambh! Biham! Bitch? Fuck wrong with you. And bro, they used to always say I was going to be most, like, unsubborn successful in school. I was a clown. Like, bro, my teacher really

talking about I ain't gonna be shit because I talked to on her husband before. Have you been able to go back to a reunion yet? Hell no, they don't fuck with me. No school. They won't let you? The only school is you of age. I'm like, I'd never win here. I come sell weed up here. Like, what's the fuck, my nigga? So, like, yo. Talk about,

we have to circle back now. Oh, yeah, circle back. Where the hell did you get 100 hamsters from? Man, so all right, he's my boy, Junctia. He was on the 4. So my brother was an athlete and was a star. And I was the cool kid. So I had the whole football team.

So he was the quarterback and like, if people had like pet stores and shit, then there's a nigga named Adi Baca. He was like a motherfucking linebacker, white boy. His people was racist but he loved to learn, love us. Adi was a nigga at heart. That's our being in Texas. Like everybody ain't racist for real, for real, bro. They might be a straight and way, but then when they get to meet us and learn us and shit

like that. So like, I already had like chains and they all had. I had trucks, F-on-50s to drink beer inside the motherfucking parking lot, I come serving some little weed. So I looked, I'm like, hey, bro, you got a truck? Yeah, I'm like, bro. Both the teachers, let's pull up all the speed bumps. So it was the first thing we did, ripped up all the speed bumps.

We came to that bitch cruising. I had a white hunter city. I can't let me be pushing 60. You know, that's fast as hell in the city. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So hell yeah, so like, I utilize that.

Like, even so like, I just have beef with a certain group of niggas. You know what I'm saying? I remember one day. We were probably going to even fight them, but half of my clique is on the football team. So, no, yeah, they're on the football team, but they was working at rodeo. You know what I'm saying? Like the Houston rodeo they come through. So they gave them all jobs.

So the only people I could find was the white boys, so they didn't work. I went to the mall to fight these niggins with 80 white boys and they was running. They was running. That's so fucking. We was whooping their ass, all kind of shit, busting their windows. I'm like, well, take it to beat them up until I called one of a niggum. I'm like, hey, now, hey! Adi.

Watch on fucking mouth. Hey man, fuck him, dude. I'm a crinkly, but hey, don't say nigger, dude. I know that. You know what I'm saying? But like, but like, you know what I'm saying? You got a little too into the situation. Yeah.

You're just a little too far, buddy. And then look. So then, like, once I graduated, Idi had a brother named Colin Bacher. And that's how him and my little brother was. Yeah. But like my little brother was like the star tailback and all that shit. So, yeah. I had like the most fun of my life was high school, bro.

Football? Or just in general. Just in general. I ain't played football at that time. Back when I played football, it was back when I was going to Ailey Paces. Like in the hood and shit. What's the last grade to play football? 10 grade, 19 grade.

I heard you say something between your one school and the other school. You went from the hood to, I don't know if you got. The high school musical. Well, no, I mean like, what's tougher than the hood? Like, you know, like the wards down in here? Man, it was like, so it has. So at hastas, it was like New Orleans came, so Houston versus New Orleans. My whole apartment complex was New Orleans, but the only guy didn't go to school.

So when I went to school, I'm with my Houston niggins, so I'm beating up New Orleans niggas. I mean, we had beat up this one dude. Then like we used to have to walk down. It ain't bare round road, but this is like the side road, you cross over to go to the field house, like before they fixed the ditch. So we getting up. And then the same New Orleans that we jumped, he's like, oh yeah, bitch, we're on

that, son. What's up? I'm like, you want to get beat up again? This nigga went in the bushing grab a chopper. I took off running like, I ran so fast. I'm like, bro, what the fuck is the hard monitors, bro? We're just kids. Like, you know what I'm saying?

Niggins switched up quick. But like, yeah, I'd really learn how to thug like doing Hurricane Katrina like on some gangst and shit. Like, that's when I was saying my first AK-47. You know what I'm saying? Shit like that. So you said he went to the bushes. So is that something like when y'all went to school, you would just have to hire your guns like outside? I ain't know.

But we had them in the backpack, bro. That thing was clever. He'd been through some shit. He had to. He just came to with Katrina. He was trying to kill him. Like, we didn't even jump you like that, bro. Like, he relaxed.

Do you ever look back and think it all like, man, it sucks? I wish I could have more of a, like, a normal childhood, or is that normal? Man, I played that's normal. Yeah. That shit normal. Because when you said before I played freeze tag, I played Kickdoor. Yeah. Before I heard the word romance, I heard the word.

Oh. Yeah. And I thought about, you know, like my fucking childhood. You know, like, and you meet people now that it's way different for her. But like, I kind of wonder if you look back ever and you're just like, man, like, I grew up fast. Fuck. Nah, because I still had the childhood.

Like, everything I really, like, went to doing shit, I wasn't raised to do. My mom ain't raised me like this. My dad didn't raise me like that. Even though they had their lives, like my daddy did what he did, fraud and shit like that. My mom always tried to do it. She did what she did. But they always taught us right, try to keep a roof all. These holes cold.

Yeah. I try to keep like a roof all by a head and shit. Yeah. Sorry about your dad, man. We talked a little bit earlier. RIPP, P. So, yeah. We're going to celebrate his name, though.

Yeah, I mean, and you, listen, like, are you doing all right? Mentally, yeah, I'm in the good headspace. I wasn't mentally good when I made way of the world. That's why I took so long. Really? Like, you know what I'm saying? I had to get right, like, where the world before that, it was on some killer kill, everybody killed, fucking die, bitch, you a whole, fuck you, I miss my brother's shit.

You know what I'm saying? But I think I made that motherfucker when I was 31 or something shit like that, I had to be like, 30 or something. So it was just showing like the mature maxo. You know what I'm saying? Now with this tape, I got both. It's like the angel on my shoulder and the devil, pulling back and forth. So you're gonna get that Trigger Maxo back.

This tape. You know what I'm saying? Good storytelling. Like some real in depth storytelling. Like I'm independent and I'm going for like I'm rapping again, bro. Like not I said rapping again, but I'm rapping like, niggas can't rap no more. You seem excited about the album coming out and you see a lot of time where artists, like Artists usually in this time period when the album,

they seem a little stressed or not sure about dates or worry about things like that. You on the other hand, you seem like you're super excited for. You think it has anything to do with you being independent? And is it that like you get to kind of make your own timeline and drop when you want or what do you think you credit that to? Me being independent and like everything I'm dropping right now is doing better numbers than the way of the world.

Right. Word. Yeah. And that's the only thing you can ask for is keep doing better, right? Hell yeah, I'm in competition with myself. Hell yeah. The world was more critically acclaimed. Like, it got me on the Coachella's, Lollapalooosos, all that shit.

But as far as like super turn-up, turned-up with like numbers and shit like that to me, nah. I mean, I feel like it was my best piece of work, but maybe just the headspace I was in, I didn't like it. Like, back when I dropped Brandon Banks, whoo, come in my life. And I mostly A&R that myself. Shout out Jay Grand at Sony RCA. My brother. Yeah.

You know what I'm saying? Oh, white man. Yeah. There's a few good ones, bro. There's a few good ones. I don't know, you know what I'm saying? Nah, it's a lot of good ones. No, I know.

I'm fucking around. I mean, like in this studio, there's at least two. Yeah, me and Ezra. Chris Long. Hey, but not, I'm fucking with you guys. That's the joke. White mother. Yeah, but like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, I'm just in a good space like shit. Yeah, but like, does that, that can fuck it up though, huh? If you don't feel. feel good while you're making the music, even if it's great, objectively, it can cloud the way you think about that, that project? Yeah. Yeah. Hell fucking yeah.

Yeah. Hell, like, shit, yeah. And then I'll be overthinking shit a lot. Me too. But it's part of the process. Yeah. No what I'm saying? But hell yeah.

What were you struggling with with weight of the world? I know it's a long way. I ain't hardly good. Yeah. I made the trips of California. I made it the day after my brother died. Yeah. I had to get it, like, I had to eat the emotion I write though.

Yeah. Then like shit. Just a lot of shit like 1159. They're beating shit cool, but that's not how I wanted to come into it. Shit like that. He just felt old to me. Yeah. That's wild.

But shit, everybody loves it though. But everybody loves it. I get better, like, that's my best album. I just like the production. I love the production. I think you always wrap your ass off. Child my nigga Teege. Me and him always butt-Heed.

Yeah. Who's Tege? Who's Tege? Because you did a thing with Hit Boy. There's one song. with hip boy, right? And then I was just going through it and I saw Teage's name above. Hell yeah. He did roaches. Okay. Him and my boy A. So what else they did? They did um K-Ro. They did a lot of

beats for me. Yeah. They were like shit. They was really like my executive producers. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Except for Brandon Banks. He worked on him like a little bit, but we always bump heads and he fell out. And then that's a way of the world. I just let him have it. Right. You know what I'm saying? But like he very musically and he very musically. He challenged me, he pushed me. He would leave in me. And I didn't see nobody care more about my music than him. Is it hard for you to pick beats or like when you're just trying to pick for album?

I mean, if somebody suck. Yeah, but if I hear a beat, I'm going on it. Did you grow up liking, like I grew up loving samples because of the New York style? Hell yeah. Is that kind of where you lean or like, you know, we were talking about Rick Ross's production. I think Rick has like impeccable taste. Right. You know, it's like, uh, uh,

It really feels like, you know, you can't define kind of what his style is. You know, like, what'd you grow up liking from a production standpoint? I love like the little, I get money like the Lassemblebo, like he's called Swiss Beats production. Yeah. Shit like that. Cool kids, Mikey Rocks, shit like that. I feel like Chuck English is one of the greatest producers ever.

Dude, I sent something to Sartan interrupt. I sent something to Primo, DJ Premier, about you were coming. He's like, I fucking love his stuff. Yeah, and he's from Houston, right, DJ, from here, right? He is from, yeah, yeah. But I just said he was from Houston and another motherfucking thing. Yeah, hell yeah, no, hell yeah, he cold and the world. He's the man.

Yeah, Mike Dean. Yeah. That's you like, I feel like I gotta go to Mike Dean to get my shit and make some answer for this take, even if I'm independent. I feel, whatever it is, you know what I'm saying, but, yeah, production-wise, who got hard beats, Timberlin got some hard days. I always, because we were talking about Outcast too. I loved Outcast stuff.

I think the production on Aquam and I, your third album was like insane. So how easy is it for you to think of like think up a freestyle? Man. It's easy for me to speak up a freestyle shit. It's like girls going while showing tits. It's like three piggies with straws and hay but they ain't got no bricks. It's like eating a lot of crits. He had to work out and got to take a shit.

I'm talking of that shit hard. Damn, dude. Hard like a rhino peel. I made a lot of fucking money out of these vacuum seals. I walk in the club with the 30 showing. I don't pack conceal. Hell yeah. And when you die, we're going to see now.

Mama's a big bouquet of daffa deals. I got twin F&Ns call them feeling liu. Hey. Send me back to the den because to the judge I won't squeal. I made a meal off them fucking pills. So at a raw, really not bad after all. I mean, I really did a sip lean in alcohol. You know what I'm saying?

If I fuck a bitch, you can't be dry, I need that Niagara Falls. Hey, man. Barres. Dude, like, to me, and you're just fucking around. He's just fucking around. Like, it's crazy that your head works at us. It's great. Do you think some people tuck freestyles away for rainy days, like, and they act like that...

See, he gotta be, bro, if you go watch my phone master flicks, it suck. You know why? Because I try to remember some shit and repeat some shit and it suck. Yeah. If I just would have win there, turn off the beat and he'd ask me something. I just go off the head. I can do that. But I only do that when I'm high as hell.

Yeah. That's why I gotta get higher than a month. I gotta get this high to go around. But if I get too high, I just gotta record, because you only got an hour out of me, probably an hour 30. So the question I was gonna ask you was, Will you ever take us to Nigeria if you go one time? Can we go?

Yes. And when we go, we got to go with my brother Bernard Boy. How much do you go? I went one time when I was two years old. That's it? So you just want to go back? I'm supposed to go, but I knew that my father hill was declining. Yeah.

I wanted to stay with him. Yeah. So we got to go. I got to go. I got to see. I got land in Nigeria. Yeah. All kind of shit.

So I got an invitation for you, man. Since you're in this fitness shit, one year, you should come climb Kilimanjaro. in Tanzania with us. Yeah, we do it like every other year. Okay. So we get some ballplayers. We get ball players and military guys to go up.

How hard is it, bro? So that's where I just want to be honest with you. Give me a workout. Does stair workout with the chains? You know, yes, dude. If you do stair workout with the chains for like, you know, three times a week for 30 minutes to start and then just go hiking. I know it's flat as fuck down in Houston.

But isn't it like, is like, is there like hill country, you know, that you can access down there? I mean, I'd be in L.A. Yeah, if you're in L.A., you can fucking hike all the time. This is the mountain. I'm killing a guy. Yeah, I use this in a bar. Never, like, you know.

Yeah. I want you where the snow at. Yeah, but the snow's not always up there. Because that's like a certain time of year. That's where it looks like at the top. Look, you see the whole fucking, the whole thing. How many miles? He's not doing it.

I know he's not doing it. How many miles is it? It's like 35, 40. I'm gonna get a helicopter I'm gonna see I at the top You got a helicopter? Why don't you come over and just hang out man?

Yeah, I'm gonna come through. What do you say? Go ahead. You made it to the top? Yeah, I made it to the top. Yeah. How many time? Like five, six times.

Oh. I'm so competitive. Look at you. Yeah, bro. Hey. You know, hey, you know, being around ball players. You don't be in a, now imagine you got a bunch of them

on the fucking mountain. People walking fast as shit. Like, I'm like, slow down, man. Right. Yeah, that'd be dumb. So we need to come to Houston. We need to do a weekend and see the Texans, kill some hogs, and tell a Mexican OT we said hello.

And tell Big X the plug we said hi. I got you. We fucking love Big X. You know. Yeah. So anything you want, people know about projects you have coming up, other than the album or anything. I'm going to get out of breakdown. I'm going to be the first one who wants to get the exclusive.

I got personification coming. With personification, I give you a breakdown. I don't know. It's going to be, like how I said, I got the devil on one shoulder and the angel on one shoulder. That it's going to show you the different personas of Maxo. You got Trigger Maxo see the Flats Crip, no. You got Trigger Maxo. Yeah.

That's Maxo with the headband and the Gold Real. You got Maxo see the Flats creepy you ever see. That's like bang the bus Maxo. Very six appeal. Like you know the fat nigga that's six here than Ross and Biggie. Yeah. That's me. All right.

Then you got a mother fucking way of the world, Maxo. Yeah. And I feel like they go back to roaches, like storytelling, perspective, big home. homie type maxo. Then shit, you got maxo cream. Then you got M.C. Quantum Bioso. That's me. You feel me? That's... And then with that tape at the end, when you get that M.C. Quantum Biosa, that's really what I'm gonna be running with for like the rest of my career. Really?

I ain't changing my name, but I'm saying like that style. But the style. Yeah, it's just like ticking, like when you switch from, you seem like Paisa style to like, to, Kazuma on fighting style. Or like Lloyd when he's switching. switch to cover two last night and just could not figure out what the fuck is going on so uh that's that's cool though that comes with age right just comes with experience in age so and there's no way to there's no way to learn about yourself other than the ups and the downs you can't skip the steps right you know what

I mean so that's awesome man well before we get out of yeah oh this sure make sure you get your court yeah look we talked about this last night for for Houston sports professional sports teams And Maxo does not feel plugged in enough. I don't know what the fuck going on. So, so is- Shout out the Astros. Yeah, what do you want? What do you want?

The Texans go up and above. Show me the most love. Shout out, Cher. I love the Texans. Yeah. Rockies. I did a little freestyle site for all that for y'all. I need court side tickets, bro.

Like, fuck all that shit. I'm a rapper. I'm from Houston, bro. I have a track hawk of Lamborghini. I have, I got my car broken into at the Rockies game. You owe him something. Yo. Hell, yeah.

You know what I'm saying? So I need to pull it in the tunnel. Like, every time I go to a performance, I pull in the tunnel. I need to pull in the tunnel. See the players, hey, what's up? You know what I'm saying? And go and get a courtside ticket. Every game like Spike Lee, I deserve that.

Tap in, make that shit work. You feel me? Houston Spike Lee. Oh, God. Astro shot to Astro. They show mad love. Texans, the most love. Even though the Astros.

Even though the Astros bang trash cans. Oh, my God. What the hell that me? A cheating thing, dude. The cheating thing. You don't remember the cheating thing? I don't know nothing about the asshole cheating. Oh, wow, dude.

That's incredible, man. He's trying to get the tickets. He's trying to get the tickets. Hey, Maxo Cream, everybody. It was great having you, dude. Thanks for coming through. Maxo.