Green Light with Chris Long - Mike Golic Jr! 2022 NFL Draft & Las Vegas Recap!

Episode Date: May 3, 2022

(2:25) - Hello, Layup Line, Exit Interview with God Upon your Expiration and 'Homecoming' is the theme for this NFL Offseason.  (14:48) - Mike Golic Jr Reviews the 2022 NFL Draft, Talks Eagles Trade, Patriots Draft Class, Desmond Ridder to Atlanta and Malik Willis to Tennessee, His New Podcast ‘GoJo,’ and His Love for Field Yates. (1:12:10) - Green Light Las Vegas Trip Recap, Retiring Phrases and Inventing New Ones, Best from Sunday’s NBA Games, Short King Surgery and Francisco Lindor’s Impressive Double Play/Interview Multitask. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Mike Golick Jr. recaps the 2022 NFL draft with Macon and Chris. They talk the record nine trades in round one. The quarterback's taken. The draft classes for the Eagles and the Patriots. And Mike talks about his new podcast. Gojo. Elsewhere in today's episode, we talk about NFL offseason homecomings, contemplate an exit interview from God upon your demise, and we recap our Las Vegas trip. Hey, y'all enjoy. The tip of the cap to Ryan Rusillo and Scott Van Pelt.

Hell. Overrated, underrated, properly rated? I think that hell is properly rated. How so? it's enough of a, you know, you got the carrot or the stick. It's enough of a stick where like, ah, she probably, probably shouldn't litter, you know? Yeah, but why are our prisons like full?

Well, that's our fault, the United States. But, but generally, I don't think, I don't think hell is doing it for people. Yeah. Yeah,

I don't know, but it's doing it for me, you know, and yes, me. So I can only really speak for myself. Afraid of, no, no,

but it's been such a constant in my life, uh, since, you know, the, uh, the church folk try to, try to scare you with it from an early age, that's Sunday school, you know? I think hell's overrated. Okay. I ain't going. I will decline going as well.

It's just not going. So one of our associates ate an edible Saturday night in Vegas before dinner. Supposedly the, the edible was still working, uh, during the morning flight. But one of the things that came out of our associate's mouth at dinner was, I would really like it if you had an exit interview when you died. Oh, that's good. With God or with like a... I think it's with God, but his whole thing was like an exit interview that tells you

what you actually could have done. Like what potentials you did not exhaust. Like you could have been like the best ukulele player in history, but you never picked one up. Yeah, I like that. Or like this was a good choice. This was a bad choice. Right. There will be some positive reinforcement too.

Yeah, for sure. A pat on the back. For sure. For sure. We don't want you moping into hell. And you really get, you really get God. You don't get like a GM type. Like God's secretary?

Yeah. Hey, God's really jammed up today. You'll be meeting with Mike. A lot of people died today. I don't know if you heard about the pandemic, but. Yeah. Hey, the frickin Cubs are in extras. So God's tied up with a bunch of prayers.

You think God likes the Cubs? You know, people, sporting events. I don't think God likes the Cubs I might have hollered at God in the 2019-5-4 in fact That would be something Yeah, that's good I like it

I don't believe in hell man If you believe in hell out there I think you're silly as fuck I think you're so silly Yeah And you know the next 20 years Or however long you live You're gonna be like

Well that Chris he's going to hell And he'll find out No I won't What about heaven? I don't know Oh So you're saying The bad option doesn't exist

and the good option might exist. No, I don't think you go up to a cloud, dude. I think what happens is... Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. I think your soul stays here. Stays here. I think your soul stays here. In what capacity, I don't know.

I think it might be a reincarnation thing. I think it also might be a thing where I'm just hovering over this room. Do you ever think about... I will haunt this room, dude. If you all continue the podcast after my expiration, I will haunt the... I'll just be knocking shit over in here.

I'll be knocking the camera over. I'll be kicking your leg off the, you try to cross your legs, I'll just kick it, kick your legs, kick them. Yeah. You hear that? Yeah, I will haunt the fuck out of this studio.

Shoehorn, Wisconsin. Hello! Why Shoehorn? It's a random. It's a random place. Yeah. I heard that quarterback Bailey Zappy might have been from Shoehorn, Wisconsin.

Have not, have not confirmed, have not verified. We should say hello to hell. Okay, Blacksburg, Virginia. Hello. That's good. You know what's funny, when you guys go to Vegas, I get sick from staying home. A little tickle in my throat.

Really? Yeah. That's how close to this team is. That's right. That's right. I don't know that. Yeah. What your voice sounds like, my throat feels like.

Okay, I was in a nightclub the other night. Tiesto, by the way, was brilliant. We'll talk about it in a little. little bit. Dr. Fax gets here in the in the B block, C block, whatever you want to call it. But there were, I mean, there's so much COVID in there, dude. Like I'm just, at some point, you're just like, you just let it wash over you. You know, I, I've technically not had it yet, but now I'm back from Las Vegas. Well, I've never, I think I've had it before, but I've never tested positive. Okay. And I've been vigilant, but I was just in a nightclub, ma'am. And to think

that I went from that nightclub. The people in Whole Foods yesterday that were walking by me in the aisles would have had a fucking connipion had they known what I was doing Saturday night. Were you masked? Yes, of course. Of course.

Because I'm respectful. These are the customs in this here, Whole Foods. I've walked into an establishment like covering my mouth. And it's like, hey, respect. I'm showing respect, but I no longer have like three masks on my purse at all times.

And I don't even have one of the car. to speak no evil monkey. Yeah. Hey, Dickie Fuller died on this day in 1987, May the 3rd. He was, of course, a famous cricketer, Dickie Fuller. Now, you're saying, you're saying, hey, make, do you mean the Dickie Fuller test, which tests the null hypothesis that a unit route is present in an auto-regressive time series model? And I say to you, no, I'm talking about Dickie Fuller, the cricketer.

Dickie Fuller, he was a burly all-rounder who battled in the lower order and bold right-arm fast medium with a slinging action. So RIP Dickie Fuller. It's hard to believe 35 years gone now. Remember it well. I was two. Crickets. So anyways, we should probably do layup line. Yeah.

Get on with this podcast because I got to talk to you about a lot today. We're going to talk about Vegas on the back half. I learned a lot about some of the people in the staff this weekend. It was a really informative trip. And also we have Mike Golick Jr. coming on. Host of the Gojo podcast, which dropped yesterday. That's our guy. So Mike Gollig Jr. will be breaking down the draft with us in a few minutes here.

But first, layup line today. Get you ready. I nominate everybody needs somebody to love by the Blues Brothers. All right. It's a good choice. All right, let's go. Now we're ready to go. We're ready to go.

And if I'm Honey Badger, I'm psyched because I'm coming home. By the way, this has been, and Honey Badger's just signed with the Saints, we found out. I was hoping he ended up in Philly, but Honey Badgers is in New Orleans. He is from New Orleans. LSU Guy, we know that. Bobby Wagner came home to L.A. this offseason. Tyree Hill came back to Florida this offseason. This is the newest trend in football.

Work from home. Work from home, right, exactly. Like we don't need business meetings. We don't need suits and ties. We just need Zoom. I mean, like, guys, these guys are coming home. These Devante Adams coming home to Derek Carr. Okay, like he grew up a Raiders fan.

We're coming home. Hollywood Brown. Kyle and Hutchinson, Ikea Kwanoo. So Homecomings. That's with the theme of this NFL offseason. And I think this is going to be a good one for Honey Badger. I feel like if you're a New Orleans guy coming home, New Orleans is like the most hype homecoming ever. That is such a place that's proud of itself

for good reason and like people that play there like people you meet that are from New Orleans, you know they're from New Orleans. So I just really think this is going to work out well. I know it's like Honey Badger couldn't play any harder. You know, it's funny because you think you're going 100% but maybe playing in front of that, you know, the boot, the crowd down there makes him find that 110. I'm pretty excited for Honeybadger and I'm excited for the city of New Orleans like that's gonna be,

that jersey is gonna sell like fucking bignets, dude. So coach, you really likes Taysam Hill, huh? I still think about not being able to get off that question. Bro, that was the funniest shit ever, dude. We had Sean Payton on and it was your turn to ask a question

that you really wanted to ask which was about Tasem Hill. Coach, Tassum Hill. Couldn't finish. line. I had to finish the question. I was like some people don't like Taysam Hill coach. What do you think about that? And then he was super cool about it. But yeah, so. No, I'm with you. That's a, that's a good fit. How could it not be? How could it not be? And I don't know how many turnovers they forced last year, but they're going to force more. That's his thing. I mean, you're getting leadership.

You're getting a guy that's won a championship. He's seen it all. And now he comes home, maybe to finish his career. And James is your quarterback. So just, change all over the place. You don't know that. It could be... It's going to be a tennis match down there. Yeah, it could be... Maybe there's something else.

Who else is on the roster? Chris Oliva. Yeah, holy shit. Should have drafted that linebacker from Montana State. He played a little quarterback. Falcons got him. Cam Jordan. Camara?

Is the best quarterback in the hate week rivalry, the linebacker from Montana State. His highlights look great. I was really into the highlights this weekend. Like, you show me some highlights, and I will be sold on a kid. Oh, yeah. Just show me five plays really like this kid. Great pick.

I noticed they didn't do Trayvon Walker's Evan Neal film. They shied away from that. Everybody runs into a buzz saw every once in a while. It was Jeff Othaw for me. Holy shit. We didn't really get a chance to rush him a lot. You know, but when I was over in the run game, oh my God. Him and Orlando Franklin.

Those two dudes were big physical jokers. We played senior year. And I was like, you know, tapes good. But it was basically just your away Maryland film that they ran on Loop. Oh, yeah. The way Maryland film was great. When you deceased that poor quarterback. Napoleon Dynamite.

Yeah. Chris Turner. I wonder where he is right now. SVP. What up? All right. So we've got Gojo, Mike Golick Jr. coming up here in a second. And remember, stick around for a little bit more Vegas talk. And a little read around the world. We got a couple odd, odds and ends here to wrap it up at the end of the show. So hang in there and enjoy Mike Golick Jr. I recently received my Helix mattress and I'm obsessed with it. It was so quick and fun to unbox. I absolutely love it.

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We were two dudes in Vegas, and now I suppose we're both home. It looks like Mike Golick Jr. is home. And I know this because he started a new podcast today. I don't think he did it from Vegas. It's called Gojo. It is out. Your yesterday, our today. And it's awesome because he's doing it with one of his best friends, just like me.

Brandon Newman is his buddy. And they started it yesterday. So you can find it where Mike Golick Jr. Apple podcast, Spotify, wherever you get your podcast. So check that out in all those spots. But yeah, we're excited about that, man. And I was actually like, I meant to pick your guys' brains about this. Chris, I was at your charity golf tournament for Waterboys.

Great foundation you do so much work with. And we appreciate that, brother. That was awesome seeing you there, dude. It was great having you in. Well, it was a blast and like obviously making it in a phenomenal job, emceeing the live auction. I know he was nervous about that before. But, you know, I saw the dynamic between you guys and I know how long you've known

each other. So I kind of wanted to get a sense of what I'm, getting into now going in and starting to work with someone I've known. Certain death. Delete the friendship. Just is gone, dude. It's going. Welcome to the business partnership.

Yeah, dude. No, I've got a few things to say. One, Mike, I will never forget that you gave me reassurance that night. I was nervous. I can't remember for the life of me what you said exactly, but I felt better after having talked to you. And then I think we were at a crossroads where we, could have left the conversation, but I would have left you on an island. So instead we went,

we went, I needed to get a gin. So we walked together to get a gin. And then I think we joined. It was a good night. There was a friendship that was born. Honestly, because making need the reassurance and Mike gave him the reassurance and Mike also being in the industry, I think that made a lot, you know, that that did a lot for you hearing, hey, great job making. I didn't hear that. I haven't, I didn't talk to Mike afterwards. He told me great. job. Okay. He said you did a great job and the jokes landed. Yeah, let me tell you now, great job. Laugh out loud, the Howie Long-Sketcher's joke that I feel like not enough people in the crowd gave time or appreciation to was a legit LOL for me. I know a lot of people just type that.

They don't mean it. I typed it and I mean it in this one. Okay. So you want to give the people what that joke was real quick? Yeah, sure. It's live auction. We call Howie Long up on the stage. and I say knock knock who's there howie howie who howie long do you think it'll take him to get up here in his hands-free sketchers slip-ins and by the time I got slip-ins off how he was on the stage oh he was on your person bear hugging what did he say to you in your ear after you said that I don't know I was too busy celebrating getting the joke off okay I was fired up about that there might have been a threat you might want to run that back yeah so golf tournaments Mike and his family have a golf tournament coming up.

The subpar. Was it the Golick subpar tournament? Yeah, figured the double entendantir worked in a couple of ways there. But yeah, the Golick subpar tournaments in South Bend, June 26 and June 27th. I'm going to go and benefit four charities, local charities there in South Bend, where my folks have a home now.

It's been home for our family in a lot of ways for a long time. So very excited for that one. I've been spamming people with links for that. can check it out. There's a whole Twitter page for it and all that. But very excited. And I mostly have to pub this so my mom won't stab me. This is her pet. This is her project. This is her baby. And so I got to make sure I execute. We already know. But also I'm trying to get up there. And I don't know, I can't guarantee you. If I go, do I have to hit a golf ball? No, absolutely not. Listen, we're willing to accommodate and meet people wherever they are.

We're fine with you not hit a golf ball. That's why you're a great family, man. Honestly, and I've known, Shout out to Uncle Bob. Bob used to come over my house when I was a kid. Bob Golick, teammates with my dad. He was really cool to me. And then his pops, Mike was really cool to me pretty much any time I ran into him. And now me and Mike Jr. are friends. So like, this is fucking sick.

And Mike also climbed Mount Kilimanjaro with water boys a few years ago for conquering Killy. So if I don't show up to this golf tournament, I feel like I'm a bad friend. So I think I'm going to be at this golf tournament. Also, after hosting my own golf tournament, I got to tell you, they are fucking awesome. I get why everybody does golf tournaments. I don't even like golf.

Were you rained out on Tuesday? We were kind of rained out on Tuesday. Mike, who was the best golfer that you saw? The best golfer that I saw, oh, Sam Bradford. And it was the least surprising thing on earth because pretty much all quarterbacks have that beautiful smooth swing. They've got time to practice. But yeah, he was lights out.

Yeah, Sammy was great. So we really look forward to the subpar tournament. Have you been to Notre Dame Stadium? No, I haven't, but you like to talk to us about your tape. Gorgeous concourse. It's beautiful. You could eat off the toilets out of here. Now, once you get inside, all right, you got Jesus in the distance and a basilica of some

sorts, but that concourse is, is goodness, number one in the nation. We make a hell of a concourse. If we're known for nothing else at this point, concourse you, Notre Dame. Concourse you. Hey, Mike, how hot is Field Yates one to ten? I got him at a 10. Oh, he's a stone cold. 10. Legitimately, we recorded with him. Brandon asked me how old field was, and I could not give him

a realistic number because I know everyone always does that thing where they lie about their age. You could tell me field the eights was 25 for the next 30 years. And we're hot. No, I just want object here a little bit. Like looking young doesn't necessarily always be looking hot. I know that people that have perpetually look young when they turn 50. They're like, how about now, motherfuckers? But I'm like, that doesn't make you sexy. Do you have field south of a 10? I don't, I don't, I don't do that. Okay. I don't have field in a 10, bro.

I don't have field at a 10, bro. Okay. 2.10. I don't have fielded at a 10. One of one abstain. He could have, what's fields? Let's talk about fields measurables. Height.

Oh, man. Field height, I would probably list him right around like 5.11, 6 foot. He's not a short king. He's not a short king. He's just fine then. He's just fine then. North of an eight. I'll give you north of an eight.

Okay. There we go. Field Gates. And you have to go back and Google his old. pictures from his sports days at Wesleyan. Because we had field, like now you look at field, he's in shape, you know,

he's trained for distance run before, stuff like that. He used to be Beef Yates. Like he had himself a thick neck back when he was playing football and or lacrosse. He looks a little bit like Tate back at Wesleyan. Tate, yeah. St. Frazier? Yeah.

Okay. All right. And that's not a, that's not a knock, dude. I got like a younger brusky at Oh yeah okay okay okay maybe Bruce Bruce Bruce Yates uh yeah yeah no he's a stud dude This guy's a stud look at him

Oh look he's oh he's in the weight room and seven of his uh Google image pictures Okay I'm seeing where you're coming from dude he likes fitness funny there was a photographer there that day Funny I was just doing the odds bicep curls um hey listen field yates is the first guest on gojo check it out It's already out in the universe are you like uh you You got a bucket list guest before we get into this draft thing? Yeah, me and Brandon were talking about this the other day. We have two right now. One on that list is Jason Siddakis.

He feels like the ultimate nice guy celebrity, huge Ted Lassau fan, great sneaker collection, all things that check the box there. And then the other one's T-Pain. T-Pain's Twitch stream has become must-see TV. He almost single-handedly got me through the beginning. of the pandemic. I don't know if you guys remember those versus battles they were doing. Love the versus battles. When him and Lil John did their versus battle, it was instant transportation back to college. And it was, you know, peak pandemic. So we were really doing the

shelter at home thing. And I was like a full bottle of red deep in my kitchen. Just absolutely loving life, not knowing at that point how messed up our brains were going to be from all that. You were auto tuning your life. And that and that probably felt good. Because It felt like 2010. And for me, it was the locks battle. We've talked about this a couple times. That was like, that brought me back to college. I had a dipset t-shirt.

And obviously, my allegiance was with the lock. So I was very thankful at the end of that night. Versus battles were awesome. Jason Siddakis, I've gotten a chance to meet him. You would not be disappointed. Really, really nice guy. Although you and I do not park our cars in the same garage on Ted Lassow. I'm a known Ted Lassow.

Hater. Yeah. Yeah. Some people hate it. You know, stuffed animals and unicorns and shit, and that's me. I got you, Mike. Don't worry about it. I mean, the darkness of season two didn't even do it for you.

I never got to season two, dude. Oh, see, if you're, if your gripe with Ted Lassow is that it's, you know, unicorns and bunnies and all that stuff, might I invite you to its darker cousin season two where they basically like cut the bunny's head off and strew the stuffing through the streets? Somebody gets clipped. Okay. I'm going season two then. He's not.

to season two. I might go to season two. He's not going to do it. All right. So we've got, so we had this thing called the NFL draft that I'm sure a lot of people are glad is over. I know I am. I'm glad to be home. Like when you get back from Vegas, is there a better city to land back from and just like lay in your bed or go for a drive? Is there a better city than Vegas to return from? It's not even close. It's not even close. And you, you definitely were made to chill. I watched that draft broadcast that you guys had going on.

The second day, I don't think we talked about a draft pick, dude. No, I mean, I saw, what was that? Was that when Julian Edelman came by like multiple times and you and Charlotte were just going over there to flick up picks with him? Yeah, so that's the draft coverage we need. So these were the guys that we had in and anybody can go back on YouTube if you feel like it. You can check out our live stream, but we had David Tyree in there. We had Jules come in there. we had a whole bunch of players

Eric Armstead came in there a bunch of awesome dudes and then Charlotte came in there who we love Charlotte Wilder Charlotte Wilder I didn't even see her on the itinerary I just saw her in the Blue Wire studio I was like I saw the door closing and I saw like an eighth of Charlotte Wilder's

face and I was like that's Charlotte Wilder get her in here she stayed for an hour and a half she rescued the live stream and then as Golick just alluded to we're live streaming the draft and we're at the same property as the gronk beach party so there all the sudden we don't know what's going on at about 3 p.m. or whatever it is it starts looking like there's zombies walking through the fucking

casino and there's a glass wall that separates the studio from like the hallway that people stumble back to their rooms or the b bar uh and julian edelman rolls up in this army of like just absolute zombies he's wearing a full terry cloth suit and he's on fucking planet mars dude and he's licking the glass and he's like putting his face up to the glass and we're like oh this is good content should we run this by jewels before we put this out on a social we didn't uh but it was great to see jules it was great to see everybody these days it seems like life forces us to be on all the time so every now and again it's important to stop and reset that's when you reach for a cores light it's mountain cold refreshment made to chill you know it's a hectic time of year between weddings graduations spring

sports and more we're busier than ever right now. And it's my favorite season, if I'm being honest, it's a great season to take a second for ourselves in the midst of all this craziness. So this year, take a second to enjoy an ice cold course light because you deserve a beer that's made to chill, much like me. The mountains on the bottles, cans, you know, like they turn blue when your beer's cold. Come on. When you need hit a reset, just open a Coors Light.

I can hear it right now. Mountain cold refreshment. Get Coors Light delivered straight to your door with Drizzly or Instacart by going to Coorslight.com slash Greenlight. Celebrate responsibly. Coors Brewing Company, Golden, Colorado. Mike, I want to talk to you about the trades. I know you guys talked about the trades on Gojo.

So here I am plucking content. This is what's called plucking content from your guest. You listen to their podcast. and then you ask them what they talked about. It's a really good strategy. Mike, what was your favorite trade from the draft and what was your least favorite trade from the draft? I mean, my favorite trade from the draft overall

was the one that kind of sent everything on tilt, right? Like, A.J. Brown heading to Philly and really, you know, two parts there, obviously root for the home team on that one. I did grow up an Eagles fan. Obviously, no present company. So I'm willing to cater to the home crowd on this. but no, it just, it had been a pretty tame draft before that because we had had a lack of quarterbacks get off the board. You didn't get one until Kenny Pick. It came off at 20 and then that

was it. So I think that and sort of what it signify, right? Because they send him to Philly. He immediately gets paid, which is awesome for him. Love to see guys get the money. But then Tennessee falls that up by drafting Trailing Berks out of Arkansas who more or less in the similar build, right? Stockier receiver, great slot guy in that Arkansas offense and kind of mimicking what we saw with the Tyree kill trade with Kansas City where you got rid of a big time receiver who was coming up on a payday and wanted one and then drafted younger talent underneath hoping it would kind of even things out in that regard. So, you know, while I don't always love the message it sends because you want to see guys get paid, it's still worked out for everyone involved. But it's just kind of

interesting to monitor because we've had so many wide receivers, so many quality wide receivers coming into the league in the last few years that you figured something like this was kind of bound to happen at some point. Yeah, I'm looking at this stat right now, which is nuts. Eagles haven't had a thousand yard receiver since 2014, and that was Jeremy Macklin, who had dinner with a couple months ago in Philly, and I can assure you we are both washed. And there have been 141,000 yard receivers by 68 individuals. since Macklin. So that's a lot, dude. And I didn't know that. I mean, like, I could have swore Alshon Jeffrey had a thousand the Super Bowl year. But obviously, that's been a thing. That and

linebacker, okay, it's been louder them trying to figure out the receiver thing, because you know about the Rager, the JJ thing. They seem to have hit, relatively speaking, on Devante. But this is a thing that they've more loudly had to answer for. The linebacker thing has been quieter. Eagles have not invested in linebackers for a while, dude. Definitely not since I played there. And this offseason, they have invested in two of them

in a pretty big way. Nacobi Dean fell to them. And then they also grabbed, uh, because he were white from, uh, L.A. And I really like that kid as well. We'll get to Dean in a second because I feel like you'll know why he fell. But I love AJ Brown there. I'm not going to say

I know for sure, but I don't think the Eagles from what I understand wanted to pay D.bo. Samuel, $25 million a year and ship capital out San Francisco's way. They had to ship a lot less capital to get this Tennessee stud and AJ Brown, and they're paying him the same amount of money. He's younger. That's another thing. He's two years younger than Debo.

And you've got to give Debo that I think Debo's a great player, but there is the Shanahan offense that you're going to have to replicate to make him great. And he already said, I don't want to be a running back. I don't want to be this, that, and the third. They got a really killer, number one, and A.J. Brown. and I'm really excited about this one. Yeah, and the best part of that is, is I don't know where you're at on Jalen Hertz

and what you think he can be for the Eagles. I generally tend to think his long-term trajectory looks like really high-end backup. I just don't, even in college, while I enjoyed him, the young man is incredible. He's always carried himself. Well, the skill set has just never quite looked like NFL starter. And so I think this serves a number of things.

One, it continues to help you go out there and put pieces around to find out if he's the guy while you've got this window. And if not, A.J. Brown is a more than capable receiver for whatever quarterback you want to slot in there after that if it doesn't work. And it's nice having if that is the course of action. By the way, on Jaylon, I'm not sure. I'm just not sure. Like, I've been sure one way. I've been sure the other way. You know, I hate to middle this thing, but that's what the year is for. And I'll give you my take in a year. I think anybody that tells you that he's proven enough to be a five-year kind of like commitment guy, a franchise quarterback for the year.

them is crazy. And anybody that says for sure that we don't need to see this year, I don't agree. So like, give me this year, give me A.J. Brown. Give me all the weapons that they've acquired over the last couple years quietly. Give me that offensive line. And give me Jalen Hertz with a full look. And then we'll move on or we'll commit to the kid. But I really like the AJ Brown commitment because, as you said, even if they change quarterbacks in a year, A.J. Brown will have spent a year in the system. So that's really nice to get a head start on the quarterback that might come in, whether it's Stroud or, you know, whoever the fuck they love or, or maybe some guy we haven't heard of. Talk to me about Nacobi Dean. Why did he fall? It sounds like this was a lot of

concerns. Like, number one, like the height, weight, measurable stuff. I know. And this is something we all hear ad nauseum, but, you know, at the NFL's looking for traits, not necessarily production and all these things. There's the medical that, you know, we can associate with. with players specifically in the SEC, but especially at programs like Alabama, like Georgia, where they're going to grind you so much. We're used to that with the book coming out on Alabama guys

where they've got a fair about a medical that people are concerned about. And so I think all of that stuff just kind of added up because you look at the guys that went in that first round from Georgia, you know, Jordan Davis combined for you. Quay Walker, who was next to Nacobo Dean in that linebacker room, much bigger, stronger, ranger athlete and all that. Tram Walker, obviously, well known his rise up through there.

So Nikobe Dean, while he was the center and the captain of all that, weight measurables wise, I mean, I don't know, this is the NFL draft in a nutshell, right? It's an exercise in teams trying to use whatever tools they can to knock you down and give value out of it. And I think Dean ends up being a stud still, you know, getting to pair him again with Jordan Davis is awesome, especially as the league continues to get lighter boxes where these guys are going to be more and more important in there. but I think it just comes down to kind of the usual stuff we see people. If you don't quite fit into the box measurables wise and you've got some injury concerns,

this is what they're going to do. They called him a short king. They just said, you're a short king. You've been flagged for medical, which by the way, that doesn't really scare Howie Roseman. Josh Sweat. They took him. Damn near had his leg amputated at Florida State. I mean, that injury was terrible.

I don't think people realize. And then they had Landon Dickerson come in last year. there was a medical red flag there. So I don't think that that scares Howie. You just hit it on the head. Not only you're getting a really good player, but you're getting a guy he's used to staring at Jordan Davis's ass. I mean, like, he knows when he peaks in the B gap,

what that looks like and when he's about to shuck back into the A gap. And like, that's an understanding between a linebacker and a three technique or a shade that people underrate and he's getting that like relationship at the second level, which is really cool. Do you think Jordan Davis is going to be a three-down player? I think they can get three-downs out of him. I just think it's all about rotation now. Yeah, I absolutely think so.

Like, I don't know. And I understand, you know, for a guy that size, people are always going to say maybe even try to lose a little bit more weight if you want to be a three down player. But there's never really been a lot of me that looks. I mean, he was the one going all the way back. And I remember talking to Molly McGrath about this leading up to the national championship game, that difference that everyone's heard between the SEC title when they played Bama and their defense got kind of winded.

They felt a little out of shape. Like that dude was the one leading the charge to get that entire unit in better playing shape going into that game. That guy was the one that had everyone out there running extra after in that big hiatus between the SEC title and that next round in the college football playoff. So I look at the dude and go, all right, self-starter, mutant athlete like we saw at the combine. If you point him in the right direction with all this, he's professional enough and gives

a shit enough about this to go and make it happy. and I mean, you already can't run on the guy. Like the third down that you're working on might need a little bit of work over time, but the first two you're getting are at an all-world level already. Even against Bama in the game they won, show me the rep where there were run wins for Alabama when he was on the field. They don't exist. It wasn't possible.

And I think that's going to already be like, you know, a damn near Pro Bowl level for him at the beginning of this. Yeah, dude. I mean, you think about it if they shore up that run game on defense, I mean, you get to third down, they have a rotation of seven, eight guys, which is reminiscent of our year in 17, where they just tried to rotate and stack with as many delinement as possible. And as you know, they bring in the kid from Hassan Reddick, who's, it's another homecoming deal this offseason. And we've almost forgotten about that. I think they're going to be pretty good on third down.

And one more Eagles bit before we move on. Jurgens, dude. Juergens. They draft a center named Jurgens. I'm thinking lotion. I'm thinking slippery hands. I think that's a problem, dude. But it's not a problem for him.

We thought of a commercial. I haven't told you about this. Kelsey gets hurt, right? Jurgens! Guy runs out there. He's got fucking lotion all over his hands. He's like, I can't snap the ball. Rookies.

Hard cut, Jurgens. Yeah, that's good. Right? I think. Fuck me, dude. That's a commercial if I've ever heard. But we're trying to sell Juergens? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, not everybody's got to snap in NFL football. Yeah. Guy Co commercials make no sense, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But maybe he's not like he doesn't have hands full of lotion. Maybe he's just really nicely moisturized. I don't know. I think you've got to really sell it like this kid loves Juergens so damn much.

Dude, he can't possibly be separated from it long enough to snap this damn football. That's what I'm saying. And just at the end, Kelsey, it pans to Kelsey and he's like, rookies. Okay. Hard cut Juergens. But did you see the clip of Kelsey seeing them draft with Lefcoe seeing them draft Juergens in real time? That was some of the coolest shit I've ever seen. Like, listen, you know Kelsey a lot better than I do.

We were talking about him a little when we were together. Yeah. But just to see that moment and to know that like he had been so in on the process and that everyone there was smart enough to say, like, got this unbelievable asset who's got incredible self-awareness. Because I don't know, coming in when I was, you know, going for my sip of coffee in the league and hearing from veterans, not everyone feels beholden to passing on what they've got to the next guy. Not everyone feels like it's their responsibility to help out young guys.

You know, I was lucky enough to know guys like Ramon Foster in Pittsburgh who were undrafted guys who gave a shit enough to kind of take the rest of us under his wing. But for Kelstah already not only seem willing to do that. with the player when he gets there, but willing to be part of the process like, that was cool as shit. It was cool. Leftco was like, uh-oh, center. And Kelsey was like, I've already heard about it. And I'm totally good with it. He will be a great vet. And that will pay dividends having a guy like that. Every year I look up and I'm like, how much longer does Kelsey want to do this? And I mean, even though he does and he's playing at a high level, he said it every offseason. Kelsey's like,

I'm not sure I want to play again next year. So you have to draft his replacement. And Kelsey's going to be the perfect guy to work him in. So that's very good. Chris, realistically, how much does Kelsey, like, play at weight-wise during the season? Dog, I don't know if he's too 80 sometimes, I feel like. I don't know, dude. I really don't know. But he's so strong. His clamps are so strong.

He's so quickly. Kelsey's great. And so the reason we just talked about the Eagles for about 15 minutes, not just because we both have a soft spot for the Eagles, it's because Alan Berg, the senior trader at the win, who's our boy, said that they're the only team who's wind total went up after the draft. So look for that and that tells you something. How about the Jets and the Giants?

Okay. Jets, Zach Wilson, he's got everything he needs this year to be judged completely or no? I wouldn't say judge completely because he's still a second year player. And like we clearly saw that roster is a long, long way from home. Yeah. And what they need still. But as far as doing what they can now, because that's all like, we always do the thing where people are like, well, we can't really judge the draft until three years down the road to

see how people pan out. I get that to an extent, but we can judge what you've done with the information at hand right now. And the Jets took the information at hand and got themselves a dynamite corner shut down guy in Sauce Gardner. I mean, they gave the, they gave the Thorpe Award to his counterpart, Kobe Bryant, mostly because no one actually threw it sauce ever in college. I called two UCC games last year. And they blitzed him once because the quarterback wouldn't even look to the boundary where he was. Guy wouldn't put his eyes over there for a series at a time. So I thought the Jets were dynamite in this draft. And listen, Joe Douglas deserves a ton of credit for this. Like put together, everyone walked past and we're always hesitant to do this with the Jets. Like we were hesitant

last year when they got Rob Sala as their coach because everyone liked him. And he was one of the darlings of the offseason. We're like, are the Jets doing things that we can support and get behind? and now if they match it with a few wins Lord knows what the hell is going to happen. I know. People's heads are going to explode. Dude, like the Jets, the Jets drafted a kid who evidently his dad was a Jets fan. The guy almost had an aneurysm.

I mean, he was just screaming. Oh, because he was sad. No, he was excited. I'm just kidding. This guy, at first I thought he was sad. At first I thought he was like, fuck, Mike, what did I just do to my kid? But then he started going J-E-T-S.

I was like, oh, my God, you're one of them. This is like a Hollywood movie before it goes downhill. but it won't go downhill because Joe Douglas is the man and because I think they probably hit it out of the park because I really did like sauce as well I'm glad to hear you say that. The reason I like the Jermaine Johnson pick is because I believe Joe Douglas, if I texted him and was like,

hey dude, was he your number one edge? He'd probably say yes. He'd probably say yes because I didn't think there was a lot that separated the edge guys. And if he really liked the Jermaine Johnson at one or two out of those guys, that was terrific. He got to wait until damn near the tail end of him to the first round. He got his big, long corner.

they say this guy, somebody said they met him and he was like the biggest corner ever. And then obviously you get Garrett Wilson. The only thing is like now you got to pay all three of these guys if it actually works, which rarely ever happens. I mean, we were looking back at this. Like the Raiders did it a few years ago, three first round picks,

didn't pick up any options. Giants, they had, sorry, make. Lawrence, Jones, Baker, Browns. The Browns were the closest ones in 2017 with Injoku, Peppers and Garrett, but they fucked it up by shipping one of those guys off for Odell. and the Vikings did Rhodes, Floyd Patterson. Ironically, the Jets did it long ago with the Qishon trade.

And I like the Hall, Ellis, Pennington, and Abram. So, like, really, it could come full circle, and the Jets could hit on this one and shades of early 2000s. But I love Wilson has a three-headed monster now, Uzama, Garrett Wilson, if you believe he's going to pan out, and Breece Hall, who is like a fucking steal. like people were allergic to running backs, but not this guy, right? Everybody kind of agreed he's your best complete back.

Yeah, Breece was a freak. I got a chance to cover them a couple of times when he was at Iowa State and college. And that whole offense is like a weird trick-dick-um. Like there's a bunch of shifts in motions. They have all those huge tight ends, Charlie Kohler, who was one of their draft eligible guys this year. And it all worked because Breece Hall was such a strong, like dynamic athlete in the middle of all that and could make what was, you know, an undersized but good offensive line. Right. So no, between those two, like Garrett Wilson, I thought you could have made a pretty strong argument. That was the best

wide receiver in the draft this year. It just smooth in a lot of ways, go up and get it, all that, you know, catch radius stuff that we fall in love with. But yeah, between those three and you and I talked about Jermaine Johnson a little bit too, just in that defense with the motor that he's got and all the things that work there. Yeah, I just, I thought especially in the first round, that was lights out, you know, adding some good depth later on. You mentioned a record out of Ohio State was the one whose dad lost his shit. Max Mitchell from Louisiana is a solid player. They can develop on that old line. So yeah, they did their thing. So let's talk edge guys, because this kind of like segues into the Kvon thing. Like they got, you know, Jermaine Johnson, who I actually watched Notre Dame game.

And that was the only thing that worried me because although he made a ton of plays, they blocked his the whole game and pass rush. So like, you know, you look at something like that, juxtapose with the highlights. Like, that's tough for me. Kvon was the guy that I was like, there's a ton of upside in this guy. I know I've heard some things, but like we're not privy to, you know, what's said in the meetings and what's said in the building and that sort of thing. But from a play standpoint, I love the giant snagging him at five.

Let me ask you first making, because you're the G-Men fan here for better or for worse. what do you think about their top 10? I don't know Didley Poo and I would bet that Kvon Tibido is the best player in this draft. Now the only question I have is when you're sitting there at 5 and Aquano and Neal are on the board. Yeah. And I should think you'd have good

APO research that Carolina is going to take one of those offices. That's what I think it was. I mean are the grades identical that you say you're going to be okay with either one? I know Neal there were some medical concerns. are you afraid that somebody else is going to trade up and get Tibido at six if you don't take him at five I love them at five but if you have if there's one old lineman that you like better and maybe it was

Evanie all along why don't you take them at five because I think they have APA research that that you know what you said was going to happen at six and then I also think like there is a best available thing you know if we didn't know they probably talked about they said if Tibido is there at five what are we doing and everybody was like drafting him you know because pass rushers changed franchises. And so do tackles, but you also don't really have a quarterback to protect right now, no offense.

And you know you're going to get one of two guys that you probably really like. And I know for a fact, Neal was their number one. So this worked out great for them. It did. I really liked the hall. Okay. I wasn't sure about exactly how they went about it.

Go, Joe. Hit us with the Giants take. Yeah. Well, and like you said, I mean, how long do I feel like we've been circling Edge as a need for the Giants in the draft in recent years? So this is one of those where best available

met need in a way that felt really awesome. And it worked out. Like I had Evan Neal's OT won this entire time. I understand that people had some concerns about the medical. But I mean, everything else. He was the most complete tackle on my mind, the most technically ready heading into this. Like the kids are freak show.

But the Thimito thing was weird studying all these guys. Because like you said, this edge class was strange. We talked about Aiden Hutchinson as this safe number one pick for so long. But you put them all on tape. and start watching them close together. And I always, I started as I've gone along and covered the draft more and more with D-Lyman, because I don't know nearly as much about it as you or the other guys who played.

I just know what I didn't like as an offensive player and what was hard for me to block as a lineman. And so I look at all these guys in the way they put stuff together. And it's like, Tibito was the one that could actually stretch you on the edge. And at the end of the day, football in any position, the number one thing any players worried about is, where is speed going to hurt me first? With, you know, what you're dealing with with Aiden Hutchinson, he's quick enough in the short area, but everything's built off power for him.

Everything's built off him being able to bull you. And when you get to that next level and you're dealing with bigger guys, is that the foundation that's going to yield you the best results? I'm not sure. And so if I've got the opportunity, I'd love to say, hey, I trust my organization enough to coach up the guy who's got the unique physical gifts and can actually threaten you,

like that and that's Thibito by a mile. Yeah, you know, and we'll get to the day two guys in a little bit because honestly, they started drafting day two guys and I was like, these kids look just as good in some ways. I mean, like, there was some nice depth there at edge this year, relatively speaking. I just didn't think the top end there was anybody separated a bunch. But to your point, I think you do, if there's a tie, go to the guy that you know can stretch the edge because I can teach counter moves. Like, if I'm a good coach, I can. teach Kvon, Thibbido, Tibido, he's doing tips. You're doing too. He did both. It's Tibido.

Yeah. I do like Antenot. I just say we do. Hey, dude, just spread it out and hope for the best. That's like his number two red flag after his having other interests. Heaven help us. The guy likes other things. I just think with Hutchinson, I mean, I've mentioned this a couple times and you know how this is arm length. I mean, for a guy who's tall but doesn't have a ton of arm lengthen by the way got a chance to finally meet him in person this weekend met his parents like all that stuff the kid is what they say is which is just a fucking magnetic cat like that guys are going to want to play with which is is north of a zero equation for me but when it comes to the play skill um i i would put kvon up there because of the ceiling and you know my biggest concern

with hutchinson or with trevon walker is that they're like really good complete players and that's not going to move the needle sometimes when you're looking at, hey, I drafted a guy in the top five. Why does he average, you know, six sacks in a year or seven sacks in a year, which is still very good if you're playing three downs. But Aidan Hutchins is a power play. You mentioned that. That's a disruptor. You know, like, he's not always going to, other people are going to eat off him. Trayvon Walker hasn't finished well. You know that, watching his tape. That's going to be tough to justify if he falls off of five sacks next year. And, you know, fans in Jacksonville who are hoping for a double-digit guy, a finisher like Josh Allen on the other side of him, are going to say,

oh, why does he have five sacks? What does he have seven sacks? Well, he fell off the other five, but that doesn't move the needle for people in telling you if you won the draft. No, I mean, and hell, you look long-term-wise, because I remember, I think I saw Bougar McFarland talking about this and asked, this might have been when he was talking to Rissillo. If, you know, you said his long-term trajectory was Jedevian Clownie, would that be a successful career? To me, yes. Yes. To me, yes. I mean, yes. I, I, shit, I think for damn near anyone, I mean, south of a couple of Hall of Famers, but it's like, to your point, Genevian Clowny ended up being known for a guy that was threatening a lot more

in the run games, splash games there, splash plays behind the line of scrimmage, setting the edge, like all that stuff that to your point doesn't ping in the same way. So, yeah, Walker's going to go in right away and be dynamite against the run and just pez dispenser dudes, but it's, it's going to pez dispenser dude. Do you say, I mean, you saw that highlight against, like he's just, yeah. You saw that highlight. against Michigan in the CFP semi-final where dude came over on a counter and I've never seen someone's head snap back like that from the edge getting set on them. And I just, I felt so terrible

for that lineman because I, you know, I've been closer to that. It's so funny because when that game happened, I don't think anybody was thinking, let's look at these, the one and two pick. Like, and let's see how these two guys fare. And honestly, I feel like Hutchinson got docked for that, understandably, a little bit, maybe in some people's eyes. And then Walker, his stock kept rising. So pretty wild. I don't think that's how anybody drew it up. But I'll tell you an edge I really liked that. I like the kid Ibiquite.

Am I saying that correctly at Penn State? He was the second pick down in Atlanta, who, by the way, I think Atlanta had a very good draft. Even the third rounder that they grabbed, the linebacker from Montana State, who Will Blackman knows and was giving us a little background on at the live stream, that guy's an athlete, man. I'm looking at them snagging the wide out from USC

snagging an edge guy who's got so you don't like the you don't like the wide out. I like something I think it was Lewis Riddick said it that he can go up and get it but in college why is he not separating at all? Why does he always have to go up and get it? He's not getting beyond him by it. He's not that fast. There you go. But there's plenty of receivers who aren't that fast in the NFL. Yeah, I don't want to do the like USC wide out thing either. That's that's the thing. It's the state. It's the state.

stigma from me watching like Dwayne Jarrett and all those guys torch Notre Dame in the early 2000s and then go to the NFL that are never open. That's a good pull. I sat behind his parents, maybe in Dwayne too. I think he was on a visit the same year. Disrespecting Nelson Aguilar. It was very clear that we weren't going to get Dwayne Jarrett on his official visit to Virginia. I remember that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Golly, that's where I remember the day is Rivals.com. Shades ofrivals.com, Circa, 03. So I don't know, man. Where was Dwayne Jared, was he from Jersey? Sounds as right as anything else.

Yeah, sure. We were recruiting everybody from New England. Yeah. No, I like their draft. Give me somebody that may be in the top 10 that you think got better under the radar, Mike. I was actually looking at Atlanta there just at the Desmond Ritter pick. Oh, we're on that one.

Yeah, okay. I'm not a big Ritter guy yet. Yet. Maybe when he wins that Super Bowl, I'll be in. Yeah. Yeah, bold strategy by him on that one. But I'll just say this, like, because I had a journey with Desmond Ritter. Like, I called two of their games, and I would say two of Desmond Ritter's worst games of 2021.

They played on the road at Tulane. It was an 11 central kick in a basically empty stadium down there. And Tulane ran the borderline triple option on them because they were on their third string quarterback. Like wild in all those ways, Ritter didn't show up. Well, next week, game day is at Cincinnati. First time they've been there, all that hoopla around it. They're playing Tulsa, and Tulsa ends up like three inches from beating them. I remember. Should have beaten them.

There was a snap-fool on the goal line. Wasn't there a snafu by, oh, maybe it was some Tulane, a Tulane kid didn't dive in the end zone or something. It was terrible. They should have been. Tulane kid or Tulsa. Sorry. Dude, I had them back-to-back weeks.

I was doing that every other drive. It was a night broadcasting nightmare. Mike, did you hear two lane is expanding? No, but I want to... Two lanes expanding? Yeah, they're going to be four lanes. Four lanes. Wow.

Wow. That guy's going to be sitting in traffic. There's two other lanes, Mike. Just fucking change lanes. Right there. So, yeah, Tulsa was really close to beating them. He's right there. Really close to beating them.

It had like a 240-pound running back who fumbled it about a third of an inch from the goal line on that. But again, it was a number. another game where Ritter was kind of inaccurate. You didn't see the things that you'd expect from a guy being talked about like that. And I think I internalized that so much that by the time I went back and watched all these quarterbacks after the season, like I had had corral for a great game and seen him. I had had Sam Howell in their bowl game.

So I had seen some of these guys, but then you taken the whole picture and, man, Ritter just started to look better and better to me. Like all the strong poise you would expect from a guy who started that many games and won that many games at Cincinnati. Stronger arm than I thought initially going in. Like you look at some of the stuff of the Notre Dame game, the IU game, drills the ball into some pretty nice windows. And so I think ultimately all of these guys falling will probably be a good thing because it guards some of the expectations that we were putting on a class that we made feel better than they were. But I think especially with the timeline down there, I like where Ritter ended up. And I think

skill set wise and Arthur Smith's offense, he could do pretty well there. as we're starting to game some of these quarterbacks that fell out of the first round. Troy Anderson is the kid's name. I mean, he is high, hip, like, spin-lee, like, in a good way. His hips swivel. He's, like, six. I don't know what he is, but he's the lineback from Montana State. I really like this kid.

Ritter, there was one big red flag for you. Oh, he looks like he's 55 years old, which is fine. I mean, I, so the only reason I take personal offense to that making is because I've been told on multiple occasions sitting next to my dad that I look older than him. Oh, I got the same thing, dude. I have the same thing, dude. Same thing.

I don't take pictures with my dad because it's fucking annoying. You guys have dads? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You take one with Brad?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get younger with my dad. Yeah. Tell him Brad's age. My dad's 81. Yeah. Hashtag old dads. Yeah.

All right. So, hell yeah. Yeah, we look old as fuck, me and Mike. So, Ritter For different reasons. Ritter's gonna look 120 when they win a Super Bowl in Atlanta. Right.

But Mariotta, I'm not saying Marioita doesn't have dog in them, but that's a pretty good room to walk into it. It feels like he's a pro. Yep, he's going to take care of him. He's going to take care of him. Yeah, he won't be, he won't be motherfucked by his QB one from day one.

With the QB, hey, so, so with the QBs, one big deal. deal in this whole draft. One, there's one huge deal. Davis Mills is protected. Yes. We got no QBs off the board in Houston. I love that.

Another big pick to take a look at for QBs who are in the league right now. I think this might be one of the biggest swing picks in the whole draft is Zion Johnson, who you probably know a lot more about than me. He's a tackle from, I guess, BC. They took him at 17. The Chargers did.

if they can figure out that other tackle spot look out dude if this kid is good look out we already are kind of afraid of the charges fear the chargers really fear them if they figure this one out and then Aaron Rogers man you know obviously Green Bay continues to just shun first round wide receivers they go to Georgia defenders by the way

Quay Walker going way before Nacobee Dean were you shocked by that whole thing in Green Bay and at any point are we going to be like, like, what's the dynamic up there? Like, did he know they were drafting these guys? We just went through this whole rigmarole and it feels like now this is even worse and nothing. It's so weird to me because it felt like we mended so many fences this last year with that relationship and it's a two steps forward, one step back type situation because, you know, we thought Aaron Rogers was now in control of everything out there.

Like they went out and signed Randall Cobb for him. before the season and all that shit. And then after the season, we find out he had no idea. Devante Adams was going to leave him and he felt pretty shocked by that. So it's like, what does Aaron actually know? I think at this point, I'm willing to give Brian Guntun's the benefit of the doubt their GM and say the guy's done a really good job of putting the team around him. I think they repaired enough of that trust. And I mean, gave up pretty significant assets in the second round to go and draft Christian Watson out of North Dakota State. I must love him.

He fits the physical profile. Like Green Bay loves guys that are big freaks. I know there's that Twitter account that posts the relative athletic spores of all these guys. And his was through the roof. He's super smooth, fluid athlete. Like the power of Christian Watson, North Dakota State, all they want to do is run power and punch you in the mouth the whole day. They've won a billion FCS championships off that.

And this guy actually made them drop back and want to throw the ball. So it tells you something about the dude. And I mean, clearly felt like they needed to do this because by most accounts, they gave up a little bit too much in this trade to, I think, of Minnesota. So it was in the division to go up and get this dude. I'd imagine largely because they know Aaron Rogers needed to see some sort of, hey, we're with you on this. We understand you need another weapon. Here you go. Here's a guy that can catch a cold football. I know they play indoors, but he definitely can catch a cold football. So there you go,

Aaron. Here's a guy who's not going to, his hands aren't going to hurt when you throw in the ball. They passed on Piggins. They passed on Skymore. They did draft two wide receivers late. So we'll see. I mean, I think that whole thing, that's going to be a story in and of itself this year.

And then Baker Mayfield, Panthers not only passed, but they didn't draft a QB until 86 and Matt Corral. So like, that's how people are feeling about Baker right now. I'm starting to feel this is the classic, everybody hated Baker, and now everybody's feeling bad for Baker.

And I get it. Like, it's the, it's the American arc. You know, it's like, build you up to break you down. And then the,

opposite. It's you break you down and then we're going to build you back up again. I think the, the Baker deserves a second shot tour is coming soon. It's the reverse Batman, right? It's you either die the villain or see yourself live long enough to become the hero. Yeah, exactly. We've done the full reverse cycle on that. Like he's going to end up just being someone's kind of high priced backup this year, isn't he? No question. And, you know, and maybe Seattle's playing hardball and Pete's just going to drive that price down to the last minute and then scoop him up and then Baker's going to be. Baker's going to be the new guy that goes to all the banquets with the tech

millionaires. You go from Russell Wilson to Baker. It couldn't be a stranger cultural fit than Baker in Seattle. But I would love to see it. I hope he gets a second shot. I lamented out loud over the weekend that people are actually over the top anti-Baker. I really do. I have hoped that at times, like at times I've been like, hey, Baker, say less, dude.

Like totally. But I also think that when you live, Look at that jersey with all the duct tape on it. Scotch tape, duct tape, whatever it is. Masking tape. Masking tape. Thank you. I knew you know.

And all those names. Like he did better than all those guys. Not masking tape. You know, the punishment is that he teased everybody, you know, and then he played hurt. And the lesson is don't play hurt because you don't. Masking tape. You don't come out any better. You know, like unless you play great and your team wins a Super Bowl, they're not going to make a

fucking documentary about you. just going to slander you and ship you out of town. So I'm rooting for Baker Mayfield. How about Wentz and Howl in a room? Talk to me about how that plays out. What do you think of Sam Howe? I know you've probably done Sam Howell games. Yeah, no, I think this is one and I'm always a fan of quarterbacks in the room with kind of similar skill sets, right? Because that way you're not trying to teach one guy in offense that doesn't exist for the other guy. You're seeing and getting all the mental, like all that stuff that adds up over time when you're in a room like that. For Sam, kind of the same book.

Like, we remember how much Carson did running coming out of North Dakota State, how much, you know, Philly tried to pull him back from that in his career. Like, that was Sam Howell this past season at UNC. They lost all their weapons. They get all those guys into the NFL running backs and receivers. And so he decides, all right, I'll become the second most viable run threat on this team behind Ty Chandler. And went from, I think he rushed for under 200 yards in 2020. And then over 800.

it was only trailing Malik Willis in FBS football what he did on the ground this year. And it wasn't pretty. Like it was just the dude pinballing off people and being a tough guy. Like to me, he looks like Jersey Shore Baker Mayfield, but he's a little bit higher end of an athlete. So I think it'll work out well with Carson. Like you talked about the Mario da in the room down there. I think it'll be a good situation because God, at this point, Carson's got to know, all right, it's not like when I was in Philly.

I'm not their guy. you know, they brought me in as a free agent, but that's only going to go so far. And for Sam Howell, you're not going to have to worry about learning a different offense. It's going to give you time, too, because it's not like that offense at North Carolina was overly complicated and what it asked. We talked about some of these guys having to sort of make that jump to NFL progressions. And so this will give them a good time to do that too. If you're Malik Willis, are you happy, Mike? Because if you're going to slide, are you happy to slide to Tennessee?

Thrilled. Okay. Thrill. I think it works out perfectly there. Like someone said too, I mean, just the physically imposing nature, if you can find ways to get him and Derek Henry on the field at the same time, because shit, you want to talk about a natural rusher. Malit Willis, in addition to being like powerful, strong,

you see the legs on him, he's got tree trunks. But like running style-wise legitimately, like I remember texting Meena Kimes about this, running style-wise kind of reminded me change of pace-wise of like Levion Bell. where all of a sudden he can be kind of hovering behind shit and then just put his foot on the gas. And so you can find creative stuff for him in there early. He's not going to be pressed to play right away because they're a playoff team with a veteran quarterback. And he just gets to sit there and grind and learn and, you know, do all the polishing that we know he needs coming out of Liberty. But, I mean, I don't think he could have fallen to a better spot now.

Yeah. Now, the Sinti game is enough to make people worry a little bit about Tana Hill. that's a game they should have won I think Tanna Hill is going to have a good year I also do worry though that by the time he gets to enjoy Derek Henry if he is the heir apparent Derek Henry has no more miles you know like there's no more

tread on those tires we say that every year but he's like superhuman the only thing with Malik Willis is there's a stat up here that Cowboy Reed just threw up. 921 guaranteed not what not 921 guarantee down from 27 and a half male if he'd have gone 6th to Carolina

So it just shows you how volatile the QB market was in this drafting. You just had no idea. So, Mike, did you win the Minakimes watercolors at the Waterboy Silent auction? Yes, I did. Very good. I didn't, I don't know if I was supposed to pick up anything after because I believe I won the custom one. So she's got to make something custom for me. I didn't know if I needed to pick anything else up.

This is probably off podcast business, but I figure I'd ask you guys on podcast. No. So what are you going to have her paint? I'm not really sure. right now. She was already kind enough. She did a picture of a watercolor of my family's oldest pug Hank, which was wonderful. It is framed in my house right now. I'm thinking a while back, have you guys seen those filters that a lot of like girls and influencers use on Instagram that'll like smooth off everything on your face and make you look real hot? I got bored one day and I tried

one of those when I wasn't working. And I was amazed. I was gorgeous. Like an abs. Like an absolute, Like an absolute... You were Field Yates. You were Field Yates. Yes. I felt very much like Field Yates. Howie Sr. Oh, man.

Yeah. Too close to home, but true. So I'm maybe thinking about having her try and do a watercolor of that glowed up picture of me. So I can just continue to enhance it and make it look less and less like my actual face. It's a good idea. A filtered my Golic water of color. That's great, dude. Also, just pick like a player or a pet peeve of hers in the NFL and just make her paint that like

a player that she doesn't like or a thing that she doesn't like. Just make her paint the Seahawks war room. I was going to say, I want to make her paint Pete Carroll handing in the draft card for Kenneth Walker in that second round instead of drafting Malik Willis. Yeah, it's great. Just paint the card. That's perfect. I love that, dude.

Yes, please. And then lastly, we got to talk about the, you mentioned earlier, relative athletic score. The Patriots are taking it on the chin locally, nationally up there. That's the word that, you know, everybody's like this. we're back at it. You know, like last year we had a good draft, this year we're back at it. What do you think about Strange?

What do you think about RAS? What do you think about the Patriots draft? Yeah. So I can't speak to some of the other later picks. You know, I know a lot of people had beef with the Taekwan Thornton pick out of Baylor, you know, all the athleticism there,

the stuff like that relative to the other receivers that were on the board. What I can say, especially for, you know, the Cole Strange pick, I know that was probably a little sooner than most people expected, but you watch the guy there, especially of the linemen from smaller schools, because, you know, we did this with Trevor Penning coming out of Northern Iowa, too, where big imposing guy, six, seven, huge, but definitely raw coming out of there in a way I thought was going to knock him more.

Cole Strange to me was a lot more technically ready. And I know we talk all about traits, but like, Chris, you know this in the NFL now. You don't get as much time on the field with these guys anymore. It's not like back when you had two days and all this shit. So I think it's harder to get guys coached up. And there's just fewer coaches that are capable of that level of development. This kid's walking into a good room that's done a good job of developing linemen in the past. I know a lot of that was the Skarnetia factor of things.

Exactly. Yeah. That's a big part of it. But I don't know. I think this kid's more ready like played. I think it was a five year starter because of COVID at UC Chattanooga. And I thought put a lot of really good stuff on tape. So I'm not as down on the pick as a lot of other people.

And again, maybe this speaks to that, like knowing yourself a little bit because the Patriots used to with Skarnakia there, be able to get guys, especially along the offensive line as undrafted free agents, build them up and coach them up. Maybe they're saying here, like, all right, we got to spend a little higher end capital. And we can't draft receivers good in the first round. So maybe it's a good thing they didn't try and do that. They're switching up and doing something different this time. That's true. Because every time they draft a receiver, people are like, what the fuck are they doing? Why do they do that?

And then last question, Zapp. What's the point of Zappi? Is Zappi just a third round backup? Or are they like, what's going on here? I think he's got to just be a third round backup. And maybe like,

I appreciate any NFL team that might just be trying to curry favor with college football fans. Like, that's the bills drafting Matterasota out of San Diego State. You draft the punt God and instantly your Q rating continues to skyrocket because college football people were pissy to, punters went before him. The Eagles drafting to Kobe Dean. College football people love that dude. We were all pumped. Ra, rah, fly eagles fly, all that shit. Bailey's Appie was just this wild

bastard in the middle of an offense that threw for a million yards and a million touchdowns and just lit everyone up like that. Love the hilltoppers, another weird mascot. And so the Patriots may be trying to up the likeability score a little bit on this, which I'm not mad at. No, and hey, they need it. Um, Mike Gog Jr. we hit everything in the draft. You were generous with your time, like more than generous. And the show is going to be awesome. I know it.

I had my guys crunching on it so we could, what did we call it, pluck some content from our boy Gojo. So check out Gojo. It's on anywhere you can get a podcast. You're the man, Mike. Thank you so much for stopping by. Love you, Mike. We love you.

Love you guys too. See, there we go. Making great great job again. I want to make sure I double down and say that. Another great joke from you. We'll have to have you guys on the pod here real soon. We'd love to come on, dude. Can't wait.

We're accepting the invite. We'll do it right now. Fuck it. We'll do a lot. All right, Mike. Appreciate you, man. See you guys. If you're in Arizona, Colorado,

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older and present in a state where win bet is available. Gambling problem in Arizona, call 1-800 Next Step. In Colorado, Indiana, New Jersey and Virginia call 1-800-Gambler and in Michigan, 1-800-2-7-1-17-Tennessee. Y'all 2, 1-8009-9-7-8-9. Fax is here but making, I wanted to say this one thing, dude, like you didn't comment on my haircut. Well, you commented on your own haircut before I had a chance to. Did I? Yeah, you walked in and you said, good hair day, good hair day, good haircut. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. And you kind of ran your fingers through it. Yeah, it's tight. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cut the mullet off, the whole thing. You should have seen this Vegas hairdresser at the wind, which is obviously a very high end place. The rich people who get their haircut, looking at my

fucking haircut. Oh, no. Not in a good way. How many chickens does that set you back? It was well worth it. Okay. I'll put it that way. The salon was right next to the IVs. station. The IVs were great. Dr. Fax and I got some IVs. It was fucking game changer of the trip. Total game changer, dude. I was working on four hours sleep like for a week straight, the whole thing. Like the fact that we got through this weekend, I owe it to the IV. I went to that nice hairdresser that, that judged me. I had to tell her that I'm not like, uh, what I had to show her where I was January 6th with that haircut I had. If you know what I mean. So like, I just want to, I want to ask you off the bat facts because me and makin were talking about this earlier to open the show is hell

overrated underrated or properly rated shout out to scott and ryan here because i think we saw a lot of people who are going to hell this weekend i think i'm going to go with it's probably properly rated okay same garage with a few people in here all right so company dinners i just want to say this. We had a company dinner Saturday night. You know, like there were a lot of heads in town. Shout out to Ralph and John and those guys and Brian. It was good to get everybody together. I've never been a businessman.

I felt like a fucking businessman. I felt like we had a company dinner. And I always imagined they were kind of fucking boring. But it was the most fun thing ever, dude. Company dinners are absolutely incredible. The trip was incredible. Mike, we have so much stuff to tell you about. I also learned a fact about everybody in here pretty much.

number one matt has a garlic allergy i learned this at the at the company dinner yeah it sucks i can't eat garlic and garlics and almost everything garlic's good it's delicious yeah yeah yeah damn what are you what foods are you missing out on that we don't even realize what we just fucking ordered the hummus i want that hummus so badly but i can't have it do you remember when we were 16 years old and you spit egg mc muffin into the uh c unit of my of my G-G grand Cherokee. I do. You spit it out.

I do. I apologize. Directly into the AC unit. No, I was laughing. Unrelated to garlic. Just made me thinking of it. Food intake, outtake.

So this motherfucker's allergic to garlic, which has to be one of the worst ones, because it's not obvious. Like, people that are allergic to peanut butter, we get it, dude. Peanut butter can kill you. Yeah, and I'm not going to die. I'll just, you know, get a little nauseous.

And I'm sure somebody here is like, yeah, there's peanut butter and things you don't realize. Like, that's fine. I don't have that problem. but with Matt like garlic is tiny and it's white if you haven't noticed and sometimes it's in stuff and sometimes it's not like you'll eat a pizza

and sometimes it has garlic in the sauce sometimes it doesn't you'll have a burger sometimes it's made with garlic sometimes it isn't it's very frustrating you can't come over to my house for dinner you'll recall the scene in Goodfellas where they shave it so thin that it evaporates that's if they ever wanted to whack Matt in Goodfellas they just feed him a fucking

a bowl of pasta in the back of a sedan there'd be fucking uh spaghetti all over the window people like how you blew somebody's brains out huh he's like no this guy's allergic garling started convulsing and they died yeah it makes me feel like a vampire though to be honest speaking of vampires this is a perfect segue to my next fact taylor and reed are fucking like space cadets dude they shared a room okay we were talking about how great our rooms were at the wind which they are shout out to the win they're awesome but the one room probably in the entire wind you know the electronic blinds of and shades and shit.

Theirs was broken. And I said, like, how'd they go about fixing it? And they were like, oh, they didn't fix it. I was like, they just said they couldn't? Or like, well, we never called down. Their window was open for three days, dude. Yeah. Yeah.

Oh, they couldn't close it. I could do that. 15 feet of window. You could do that? Yeah. Daylight. I'm good. What goes into that decision?

Because you can close your eyes, the eyelids. Bro, I can't. There's too much light getting into the eyelids, bro. I need like another island. I need two eyelids. We just made pillow forts that covered the sun from coming in. So we just put pillows up in the middle of the bed, which was great because the wind pillows are massive.

The middle of the bed, there was one bed? No, two beds. We each had the pillow floor in their own bed. I can attest to the win is one of the only hotels I've ever been to with, you have an abundance amount of pillows on your bed. Like, yeah, it's usually don't have enough. You usually don't have enough.

And this is like borderline, hey, like two of these, These pillows are like bigger than I've ever seen before. I don't even know what to do with these. There's a pillow the size of a suitcase at the win. What you do, choose your own adventure. I guess so. People are guaranteed. Some people are fucking on top of it.

Some people are just building a fort so they don't have to call it out and say, hey, my curtains are broken. Can you send a tech up? They'll be here in 37 seconds, dude. They opted for three days to live like vampires. How many pillows is your ideal number of pillows? Oh, this is a good one. I would probably say five.

Wow. Yeah. Four, two pillows each and then like an extra floater pillow. Okay. Mine's one. Really? We're trying to sleep. Are you serious?

Yeah, yeah. I rest my head on one and then within like the first hour of sleep. What about your wife? No, I'm just saying just for you. Oh, just for you. Just for me like. Very thoughtful of you. So, but I wasn't going to answer like that.

Within the first hour of sleep. Oh, that involves. You might find this interesting. I will have taken the pillow from behind me. my head and I just I just hold it, I hug on to it, and I sleep on the mattress. No pillow under my head. So here's the deal. I've tried a flat like, so I have to have a couch cushion pillow, dude, to put between my legs. My back's kind of fucked up. So if I don't sleep with like a real pillow between my legs, like a thick one, dude, like that you get off the back of somebody's got a 30

pound pillow. If I don't get one of those, my back, I'll wake up in the morning with like back spasms. So when I used to go to the team hotel, I used to pack like all my stuff and a fucking giant couch pillow. But I do a couch pillow. I do a pillow to hold to keep my arm from. So like a pillow like you're sitting on like one of those. So I'll do like yeah well no like one of these. Yeah this one this one. The back. The back of the couch. That's still like so I put it's a big pillow. I put that between my legs and then I have one pillow from my head and one pillow to like kind of caress. So how many is that? That's three but sometimes it's four depending on the firmness of said pillows. High maintenance? Yeah, sure. Comfortable? Yeah. Also. Make it five. Separate myself from my

my lovely wife. Yep. Crucial. Phone light, shit like that. I don't want her complaining about that. Good spin. Nice. Yeah. Yeah. Y'all are high maintenance, man. I just need one pillow. Yeah. You don't even need. Evidently, you don't even need shades. Yeah, but you need another dozen for your fort. What kind of drugs were in that room, huh? None. No, honestly, no drugs. No drugs for those guys. But they could pass a drug test right now. They were really impressive. The only thing I see seeing Reed do that really concern me.

And I went into straight like paternal mode on Reed was like we were. So after that company dinner, I was like, oh, well, why don't we do a company club night? We'll go see Tiesto. And that was fucking expensive. But I had a great time. And I turned to Reed and Taylor at one point after I got the bill. And I was sitting there. Do you remember what I said to you two motherfuckers?

you said you're welcome no i said you guys better have a great fucking time okay and they took that to heart man reed somebody was passing a bottle of gray goose around and there was nobody obviously grabbing it to like drink out of it because of covid and stuff like that and also it's just like it's uh nail polish remover cowboy reed grabbed the bottle and tipped it back for probably seven seconds eyes open it was like disgusting and your most mama cowboy she probably knows where he can throw down a little bit but shockingly i was waiting for the lights to go out you know when like nobody's home and you can see it in somebody's eyes that never happened for reed he was very responsible he did walk home without shoes on but that's standard shit after facing

Grey Goose for 7 to 10 seconds at the Tiesto concert. So I was walking around the casino lobby afterwards, jumping between Nate and Matt and Brian and Ralph, and I kept asking Nate if he played football. Well, because we had this plan to make Nate into some celebrity, which is kind of what we're doing for better or for worse, having him on the podcast. But like walk, walk him through the fucking,

the casino and act like he's really famous. Because you know people, they're just like, oh, big guy, must be an athlete. I said this, I tweeted this at Tiesto. It's amazing how much I aged. I'm like Matt Damon in that jiff. Like, that was one club experience to this one. Like, I just immediately got in there, I was like, opening weekend the year you decide you're too old in the NFL. You're like, you wondered all offseason?

Nope, it's too fast for me. This is moving fast. It's moving too fast, bro. And I'm too old. I switched to Stella right when we got there. I was thinking about grilled cheese the entire fucking time, dude. I tweeted this. I'm at a nightclub and I can't stop thinking about grilled cheese.

But we had a great trip. Hope you guys enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. It was fun. I got to do an appearance with Max Crosby. So I've got a question about your trip. Yeah. Hit us.

Of course, you have a, you've got a captive content audience. Sure, yeah. It's the NFL draft. Yeah. So how many Evergreen interviews did you bring back to put in the can to make our lives easier? I gotta assume it's double digits. None, dude. It is double zero.

Double zero. Oh, no, that's good. This is how it goes. We got the number two picking a draft. He came on. Oh, we did. Aiden Hutchinson came in for a live stream. We got that.

That would be good for the future. We got that in. Yeah, we got to make that call. This is like money in the bank, dude. Right. You'll laugh at this. I reached out to Max Crosby and was like, hey, 1.130 Thursday.

Let's do it because we've been waiting to do it in person. and he was like yeah dude i'm down let's do it fuck yeah and then i heard back for brian and he he's hosting uh his annual draft party from 12 to four he like does not own a calendar he's just like me so that that's where the cops like really you know but yeah we had a great time we're now back and the voice is coming back so shout out korslite for sponsoring that whole draft segment in the course brilliant and our friends at kors light austin my guy from korslite i met a couple dudes from Coors Light.

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the mountains will, will be red with fire because you'll be in hell. Okay. God. Broncos are God's team. Of course, that is God's beer. Yeah. Yep.

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for saying lazy Susan at dinner on Friday. Do you know what a table with a thing that rotates on top of it does? Do I know what it does? Yeah. What it's called? Yeah, rotates. Yeah, rotates so that you can get the plates, right? Like, hey, I need that plate.

Nobody needs to, you know, strip, strain a dealt or, you know. Yeah. Yeah, how's that going? Not great. Still? Thanks for asking. Yeah. Nobody's asked it months.

Yeah. Surgeon doesn't even write me back anymore. Because it's starting to do a Ben Simmons thing. dude. Well, I've learned to live with it. Yeah, that's a lazy Susan. Okay. Evidently not. Not anymore. And when I got to thinking about it, it's like a high energy, Claire or what? Yeah, like a high energy. Yeah. Okay. I never knew women were like thought of as lazy. Like that, that's a thing. Like, I always thought they worked harder than us. That was the, we're like the lazy ones. We would have to get rid of this if it was called a lazy Chris because I would, that stereotype was so ingrained in me as a

kid even that when they did like dad's career day at school and you had to talk about what your dad did or what he does like talk about your dad i said he comes home and just sits on the couch and drinks beer he doesn't even drink beer like where did i come up with that that's ingrained in my you know what i mean yeah yeah yeah married with children yeah dude that's what it was al bundy and shit yep yep so i actually lazy susan i'm fine just saying no more lazy susans right playing the hunger game song for that go ahead read play that hunger games whistle i won't say it again but i actually feel like we're misplacing the stereotype here lazy is the guy stereotype yeah we need we need to change that term for sure and then Nate you brought up another term at dinner that you thought was problematic

no so one of the bartenders kind of said it in a condescending way when i ordered a moscow mule that we're not calling it that anymore. And I was like calling what? He was like, it's just a mule. You could just ask for a mule. We're not, we're not promoting them anymore. So to my surprise, I didn't know that that was a particular thing that we were doing. I guess I understand with the times that's going on. But it gets confusing for me because there's a lot of different types of mules. Like when it comes to drinking Kentucky mule That brings up another issue

That if you're at a fancy restaurant And you say let me just get a mule Right So we should just name it Greenpeace mule Yeah or just name the ingredients You're right What are we going to rename

The spinning shelf instead of Okay, that's a lazy crisp Fine, I'll take it dude Or why isn't it like high active Susan All right So why don't we put it. Why don't we try to put something positive? I just got it. I just got it. I'm a moron. Did you know this the whole time? Why don't you just correct me? I was interested in seeing what your mind was doing with this. So I really just realized it because I don't, I'm not a stereotype guy. So I didn't realize that people were saying that Susan should be the one passing everything. Because in my house, I do that and my wife does it because we're we're partners. So I totally. missed the fucking point here. You're just enlightened and you wouldn't need...

I don't think about things that way. Exactly. That's right. So we should call it an active Susan. No, we should call it a good friend table. Just call it a rotating tray. Just take the names out of it. Rotating tray, that is useful. That's fine.

But Hunger Games, Lazy Susan and... I got another thing. I got another thing we need to Hunger Games. We were talking about this. We were talking about like stuff that we got to stop saying or that people should stop saying. And I was saying when I was teaching kids that were like in middle school and high school when they were describing something that is bad like, oh, my mom says I can't go out this

weekend. The friend would say, oh, that's AIDS. Oh, shit. Yikes. Right? And then what the fuck is wrong with kids? I've been sitting here. What else, Matt?

Like if you go on Twitch and watch some of these like teenagers play video games at the high level and they die, they'll be like, oh, this fucking game is AIDS. Bro, like calling outfits, aides and stuff, dude. Yeah, like that's fit as AIDS. What is wrong with kids now, dude? I'm sitting here doing a podcast and my number one concern is always, oh, God, what if kids are listening? I don't care. You guys are calling things AIDS online.

That's like your, that's your slang, dude. AIDS. And I'd like those kids to know you're all going to hell. You're all going to hell, dude. You're going to be sitting in hell just burning like a little marshmallow and you're going to be like, hell the hell is AIDS. Connection sucks down here. I can't play cod.

Fucking assholes. You're terrible. I feel like a boomer. This is the worst generation. The greatest generation is the one that had car phones. You guys have graduated. You went straight from car phones to calling things AIDS on a live video game stream. So I was saying I like where their heads at, but that's a terrible disease, man.

that's not something you can joke about. How about we come up with something in studio here that's like that, but it's not so fucking awful, like tuberculosis. Is anybody dying of tuberculosis anymore? No? That's tetanus. That's tetanus.

Bro, that segment was fucking tetanus, bro. That's pretty good. Right? Yeah, dude. Right? TB is the leading infectious disease killer in the world because of the third world. Fuck me.

Tetness, it's tetanus. Hey, that's tetanus, dude. That's tetanus. Or hey, that's, that's no good. No, I think. That's the half. Bro, look at Nate's, look at Fax's outfit today, not today, because I kind of, your outfit. Well, you get Navy blue and black, you got Navy and black going on, which is, which is, that's a no-no.

Like, say I'm not to who. Say certain people fashion. Guy gets in, Gary, guy gets in G-Q. once in his career. Twice. Oh, twice. Easy.

And now he can call people out, huh? Yeah, well, I wish GQ could see me now. But, hey, Nate, yo, black and blue, that outfit's tetanus, bro. That's tetanus. I mean, you look at your shirt respectfully. I'm wearing black and blue. You were just talking about how you got to throw out that tetanus-ass shirt you got on, bro. I don't know if I'm down with tetanus.

Do we have a tetanus death, cowboy? What about staff? No. I know people that got staff. Tedness claims 213,000 to 293,000 deaths worldwide each year. Each year? God damn, dude. There's that many people stepping on like rusty nails and shit?

Yeah, but you know what? Like there might be, there's probably other ways. I don't know. Like I'm being, I don't know. I just know that it was told when we were younger, don't be stepping on nails. Try not to. And if you get, and if you scrape something rusty, Make sure you say something.

For sure. Because it's common knowledge. Yeah, you got to get checked for tetanus. But is that the only way you get tetanus? Is that like, it can't be? Like with that number being... No, I think people, I think that's what it comes from. I think tetanus always comes from something like that.

That's Tetris. All right, we got to find something that doesn't affect people. That's chicken pox. That's bad haircut. I mean, that takes weeks to come back from. That's hemorrhoids. It's hemorrhoids. That's a good one.

Yeah, that's how like that one. Not lethal. That segment was hemorrhoids, bro. Hemorrhoids. Oh, man. The visible kind. Yeah. Rist tinkle.

Yeah, dude. I saw a sign that says, hellfire awaits. Did you guys see this on Twitter? The guy posting like all the reasons that you could possibly go to hell. I hit a lot of them, unfortunately. What were all the things? It was one of those like, get one point.

You got out of there, like, score one point for everything you've done. It's like all this stuff. What if those are undercover like ways to find out if you're going to hell? And they're like, gotcha. Well, they thought you were bragging. You're punching your ticket to hell. They have atheist pot smokers and porn watchers on there. So I don't know how many of those you hit.

None of them. Jesus. Jesus was properly rated. Only guy in here to say that. Haven't watched porn today at all. Not true. And then what was the other thing? Pot smoker.

Spocker. Yeah. As you open up your can of dog walkers to light another one. Dog walkers. What stood out from Sunday's game ones in the NBA? Dremont going straight to podcast after being ejected after their first game. He's on a podcast? He has his own podcast.

Oh, so he went right at the booth? He got ejected. Oh, that's great. And went straight to the locker room or two. to this hotel room to hop on and to get ahead and start podcasting and putting his narrative out and his team end up still winning. And it's just like to be a podcaster and an ex-athlet and seeing a guy that he's like, hey, I'm going to do this.

I know people are going to hate this that I'm podcasting while I'm playing in season, like real time. And there's a lane for that. And people would love to rather hear from. from the player and your perspective. So he's giving every... He's cutting out the middle, man. He's giving that fan base everything you would kind of want as a fan of his.

But let's talk about what he did before he did the noble thing in podcast. Do we think it was ejection-worthy, make? No. No, he did not deserve to get kicked out for that. It's a pretty easy, flagrant one. Yeah, they're going overboard. And then common fowls are flagrant ones in these playoffs. It's odd.

I agree. I agree with you, but not on yesterday. today and I love Draymond but like at the same time I feel like what he he went he went to do something really dirty and then in his head he remembered that it was oh fuck it's the playoffs and this is like right out there in the open and they was like oh I was just catching him like you can't grab somebody who's jumping up in the air I mean I'm not a basketball player but as an athlete if I leave the ground and somebody grabs me by my shirt it's really dangerous especially if there's hard floor and you're used to as a basketball player just

just putting your leg down to catch yourself. It's a dirty play, but he didn't, like, follow through it. Like, what you're saying is right, like, mid-play, he realized what he was doing was way too dirty and, like, tried to fix it. That's why it's definitely a flagrant one in my mind. But I feel like if he doesn't have the reputation of Draymond Green and all the things that he's done previously. So what the fuck are they doing about Chris Paul when he kicks people in the nuts?

Bad guy, Chris Paul. Looking the other way. So, yeah, is that because of his PA stuff? It's a great question. Like, Chris Paul has a history of doing a lot of things that are, He's dirty than just right. That's right. All flagrant fouls are reviewed, so we'll see if the league office downgrades it to a flagrant foul one.

And that would be interesting to see. Well, listen, they got out with the wins, so they're fine. And that call at the end of the game on the jump ball. I mean, that's another one that people were talking about. Yeah, I think that Memphis has to be really disappointed. Like, you don't have Draymond for the second half. You're in a really good situation to win and then just got out executed in the last minute by a more experienced team. You know what the refs are talking about today

is trying to figure out who Jack Harlow is? I didn't know who Jack Harlow was. I didn't know who he is either, but I don't like him because he was messing with the camera lady's camera equipment while she's courtside. I don't like that. Let her do her job. Don't talk about Jack Harlow. No, listen, if somebody came to...

He's a future great. He's a future great. He's in a good lady. I don't know anything about Jack Harlow, the person or any of that, or the artist, but if what's Matt saying happened, happened, then I think that's kind of fucked up, because if somebody came behind, he was doing a show and somebody came behind this and was fucking with this,

and he was fucking with the soundboard, somebody was fucking with his soundboard, he'd probably have him escorted out. No, he's not that type of, no, no, he's not. Like, man, the, the, I'm gonna vouch for him right here. The big screen's a little off because

somebody's fucking with your augs cord behind the, you know what I mean? That's what, that's the equivalent to me. Yeah, no, that's fucked up. They'd just be turning knobs and unplugging shit on, like, unless he warned her. If he was like, I'm going to do something for... I don't think...

Way to trigger Taylor back there with the equipment. Thinking about people unplugging stuff. It's true, though, dude. But it's true. Like, if you're, like, let's say hypothetically, that's like her first gig, court side, and she thinks she's got a great opportunity for a shot. And, oh, shit, camera's not working.

I wonder why. Well, I also think that... I also think that I don't care about the bucks sell. politics series. Oh. So I've become addicted to player scoring totals. Jason Tatum, 20 plus.

Grayson Allen, 11 plus. I can build my own bet on the windbed out. Oh, really? They scored 21 and 11, respectively. Really? Yeah, cash it. So you'll have to show me where it is because I'm proud to say I haven't placed

a single playoff bet yet. The problem Jason Tatum's got is he was able to guard Kevin Durant pretty well because they're like similar size, similar body types, but Janus is just too strong. And the way they're calling that series so far, if they let him play that physical,

it's just over. Does it go five? Probably five, yeah. Okay. Oh. I'll go seven. The way he's making it sound, it's going to be like four or five.

It's going to be like a sweet. Yeah, they still have Chris Middleton coming back. Drew Holiday was the second best player on the floor. I mean, I don't know what else to say. But that's, it would be bad in the NBA. I'll take over five. The butts are going back to back then.

They're going to, they're probably, they're going to want to go. I like them to come out of the east. No, no, Phantom of the Opera coming back. What does that mean? Phantom of the Flopra. Who got hurt and was going to put a fucking mask on and flops? Oh, Joel and Bede. Yeah, he's coming back, dude.

He'll look like you did on the plane with that mask on. Yeah, Nate had a fucking hydrating mask on. It was super. Take out your best players when you're up 30 with a minute to go. Yeah, it's bad. I didn't like that. There's a surgeon in L.A. who will make men taller, reportedly between three and five inches in height.

Cost $75,000. What do you think of short king's surgery? Tom Cruise just announced he's out four to six weeks. I feel like all is fair, dude. People are putting, you know, goards and their butt cheeks. This is the male BBO. Yeah, BBLs. This is the male BBL.

Like all the women are going and getting like that extra fat push from like their stomach to their butts and their thighs and evening things out. And it's like a doctor, one of these male doctors like, hey, we got to get something for dudes like for us. And this is it. I do feel like this is like tall king appropriation a little bit though. Like I'm a tall king. I earned this. I've been doing this. But did you?

But wait, but did you earn this? Yeah, I grew me. I mean, but did you earn it though? I grew, dude, me. I'm the one who grew. Who grew? Who grew? Who grew, bro?

I guess. Me. I grew my whole life, dude. Okay? Like, I'm a tall king. I don't, like, I earn that. I don't need other people infringing. Like, they need to wear some sort of, like, I'm an artificial tall king because it is a little scary.

What are we doing? What are we doing? It's got to be a painful surgery. Yeah. It's rods. but it's a process that like it's like a six-month recovery. Not going to be a tall athletic king with rods inside you. I mean, there's a lot of people with rods and you get surgery and you get things put

in. I'm sure, I'm sure it all work out. No, but not like extension rods that make me like taller. You know what I mean? Like you're going to be able to just be like, oh, yeah, you're tall. Let's go play basketball. Or like, let's go jogging. Like I'll be able to tell if you have the rods in your femur.

It's going around. Would it be okay for an athlete to get this surgery? Like, let's say you're like 6-9 center. You want to be like 7-1. Can you take six months off, do the surgery? The new Tommy John. Aidan Hutchison goes in and gets a couple rods on his arms. He's the best prospect ever.

Talk about a long arm, dude. Interesting. I just think that, you know, like I'm totally fine with it. You got to do you. But at the same time, like, I'm doing me and I'm an original talking. From reading it, from reading, like, the procedure, it seems like it would be extremely painful the recovery. And like the feeling of your back, like being stretched constantly after they put those

rods in, that doesn't sound like it would be worth it. Francisco Lindor turned a great double play against the Phillies while he was miced up. He was mid-interviewed turns a double play. What do we think of the MLB's miced-up interviews? I thought that was so cool. I was just like, yeah, I think I'll watch the Phillies for a second. so I know who's on the team and that sort of thing this year for the big playoff push dude I love it I mean I really do love it

this is going to keep me watching this game for two three innings and honestly I think they're looking for like decades well yeah but if they do it every night I'll watch three innings a night I mean over time that's cumulative effect of decades of baseball dude so I mean it was cool there's no doubt it was cool dude the guy caught a fucking ground ball. He was mid sentence. He was like, yeah, you know guys, I was like, boom, caught a ground ball, turned double play. And then fucking, he's speaking Spanish to like his other middle infielder's.

And they're like, what did that mean? And he's like, well, I told him X, Y, Z, like different things strategically that I never would have heard. And I don't care how much you think you know about baseball because somebody was in my mentions and they were like, true baseball fans don't want this. And I'm like, you just don't want more fans because not only you're going to get more fans, but you're also going to learn more about your game.

Like probably you don't know some of the things that this guy's talking about. This is where it's funny. Like, I wouldn't want anybody asking me questions, like, period, probably. But in the batter's box, like he was warming up. And they were like, so typically, what do you like to think about in the batter's box? And I was thinking to myself, like, not this fucking interview, right?

But he struck out, of course, comes in the dugout. He'd struck out earlier or something. And they were like, oh, what happened there? You know, that kind of thing. And as he's answering, he does the, he looks over at probably his SID or whoever the guy is. And gives him the let's hurry up and the thumb throat slash, not the like drawn out one, but like, it's over. So like you were like, is that the, did he just tell them like he's had enough?

It was annoying to answer a question about. And I don't know how I'd be able to handle it. You got to be really fucking good to take that assignment. And I didn't like being miced up in the NFL because I just didn't want to look like too cool and, you know, play bad with a mic on. Yeah, but fans love the mic'd up section. And I think it makes a lot of sense. Like if you watch any of the baseball from Japan where it's incredibly popular, they do all kinds of fun segments with the players, make it into a huge show. So I would like to see baseball go that direction.

I say more. I say less. Nate. I say more. Okay, good. That's awesome. We will be back Thursday with a huge guest. You don't even know who it is yet.

Take care.