Green Light with Chris Long - Mina Kimes! LIV Golf Tour, Chicago Bears Punishment & Public Marriage Proposals. Mailbag.

Episode Date: June 10, 2022

(2:21) - Hello and Chicago Bears Punished by NFL for Contact During May Practice.  (10:30) - Dr. Fax’s Nude Beach Adventures. (20:45) - Mina Kimes on the Browns Situation with Baker Mayfield & Deshaun Watson, the 49ers Situation with Jimmy G and Trey Lance, Darius Leonard’s Back Surgery, Mac Jones’s Progression in New England and What Would You Do with Aaron Donald Money. (1:18:53) - Mailbag: LIV Golf Tour & Disney Marriage Proposal. Green Light Spotify Music: https://open.spotify.com/user/951jyryv2nu6l4iqz9p81him9?si=17c560d10ff04a9b Spotify Layup Line: https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1olmCMKGMEyWwOKaT1Aah3?si=675d445ddb824c42 Green Light Tube YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/GreenLightTube1 Green Light with Chris Long: Subscribe and enjoy weekly content including podcasts, documentaries, live chats, celebrity interviews and more including hot news items, trending discussions from the NFL, MLB, NHL, NBA, NCAA are just a small part of what we will be sharing with you. https://www.greenlightpodcast.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Tennessee, y'all, 2. 1-800-9-9-7-89. Welcome, friends, to the Greenlight podcast. Cowboy. Mina Combs joins us today. To start things off, Chris and Dr. Pax strategize and give tips to current NFL players on how they could potentially get out of OTAs in the wake of the Chicago Bears being punished by the NFL for contact during practice. Mina Combs joins and talks with Chris about the most recent NFL storylines. They go through the Browns, Baker, and Deshawn, the 49ers with Jimmy G. and Trey Lance.

They talk to Aaron Donald's extension and the impact of Darius Leonard's back surgery, what that means for the Colts. Afterwards, Chris and Dr. Fax go through a mailbag covering the LIV golf tour, and they give their takes on public marriage proposals. Y'all enjoy today. You got the hello today. You! To Lake Forest, Illinois. What's special about Lake Forest? Home of the headquarters of the Chicago Bears.

Your old team. My old team. And formerly your old team, because you just retired. And that was funny. Your agent hit you. Oh, yeah. My agent, he's seen the tweet in the video we put out, and he said he'll formally send in the papers for me. That's funny as shit.

You retired on the pod like impromptu the other day, and somebody actually hit you up and was like, yeah, do you need paperwork? Let's get the ball rolling on this. Hey, thanks for the moon pie too. Yeah, vanilla. Yeah, I appreciate it. Moon pies are awesome, and not enough people eat the vanilla. Moon pie's like a Everyman Macaroon. Did you ever realize that?

You know what a macaroni is? I love macaroons. I fucking love macaroons. Foods of All Nation. Oh, I got a box of them right now, dude. Look at that. The vanilla's? You're not the only one that knows about that.

Yeah, dude. Don't be taking my macaroons. But one thing I can say about macaroons, they're on the spectrum of being a little bit too pricey for what they are. Yeah, that's why you get the Everyman Moon Pie, dude. Yeah. You hit it out of the park with this. Thank you.

The real trick is, though, at Sam's Club or Costco, they usually have like a value pack. Like, that's a good deal. Like, it's probably like 15 to 20 bucks, but there's like, there's like, there's like, back out to get moon pies. Definitely not. And by the way, the moon pies are supposed to be a dollar, the dollar store. I know you're not a guy that probably ventures into the dollar store a lot. My kid's shop at the dollar store, man.

You know, the dollar store is a $1.25 now. I don't know how I feel about that. that it's a dry bash god damn it's good once it once once one's that thing gets percolate in there hey um watch it down with some liquid dead so i eat this moon pie explain to dr fax by the way we have mina kimes on today we're gonna we're gonna finish the show with a big old mail bag um kinks and tell dr fax because he doesn't know all right so the bears are actually forced to cancel their organized team activity originally scheduled for tuesday because they had live contact in practices in May and were found out by the NFL.

What a win, huh? We've been waiting for this win as a league for a long time. So the league, no, so time about the league really now, like, the league has snitches. They have like internal, they have like internal people because they found out about the gambling scandal and like how do you find out about when they're having padded practices when they're not supposed to? The gambling scandal is one thing. We don't want gambling.

Shout out to Calvin Ridley. I'm in your corner, man. You didn't know you were still in the NFL. But as far as the OTAs are concerned, I know y'all used to have like an inside joke when practice was going too long in May. Like because there are all types of in OTAs and many camps,

there's all types of these, you know, mutually agreed upon things from the collective bargaining agreement that's supposed to govern how long we're on the field. But the fucking jokes, when we would be over an hour and 45 minutes, man, that people were screaming, PA! PA. Coach, I'm going, you know, like I'm going to call the PA.

No, but to be serious to like when guys would be doing that type of stuff, usually when it's going extra, it's a guy like me who's on the spectrum of like making the team that's probably getting those extra reps who are out there. And you like, I would say like the starters or maybe they want to go inside. The vets want to go inside because the problem is the bets are the old ones and we're tired from last season. I get it. Like, you know, in St. Louis, I was taking 800 snaps a year or something like that. I made that up like 700. But like, you know, I'm tired in March, April, May, like, or if I'm older and I'm a veteran, I feel like I've earned the right not to be out

here for two and a half hours. Um, so guys would, and listen, these aren't really tough practices. It's more just like, this is what we agreed to. Contact. That's what the bears, you know, like they they were going, they were doing drills, like probably stupid drills, but there was contact. And so they got smacked. Did they just recently? let them know like did they not know they were going to be so what happened was the no coaches just don't believe the PA is actually going to come in and be in you know and get the cuffs out yeah the NFL PA issued a warning at first and then continued to monitor the bears practices by video and saw more contact after the warning yeah dude you got a warning and then

you went out there i almost feel like this is one of those things where uh eber flus is like a you know like a baseball manager and he um and he gets thrown out of the game on on purpose to like galvanize the team. I feel like maybe this is, and if it is, it's kind of genius, like I'm gonna get us shut down so that you guys get the month off or the weekend off. What if the vets, you take it upon yourself, be like, hey, let's get really physical during these plays,

even though we're not supposed to. Now that, now we're playing chess. Like, hey, we're playing chess, dude. It's like brother and law on the other way around. It's reverse brother-in-law, yeah. I don't know what you call that. Reveret, it's sister-in-lawing. So what it is is either if you were the players, maybe it was a coup, like an undercover coup.

Hey, pancake me right here. So it looks real bad on camera. Because he just told us not to have any contact. The guy from the PA is here. Body slamming, right? And any player listening knows if you're sitting at home and you played in the NFL like me for 11 years or like Nate for five or six years or whatever it was, you know, you know you should have tried this. You absolutely should have tried this. If D. Marie Smith comes in town,

I just organized like an Oklahoma drill over in the corner. Like me and Stephen Jackson, D. Smith here. I'm like, Jack, D. Smith here. Hey, can I pay devil's advocate? Yeah, sure. Hey, and for your coaches and for Chicago, hey, if you guys want to be sneaky, here's a tip. Don't bring the cameras outside and go practice.

Yeah, it's not like any of it. There's no evidence. It's not like position coaches generally know what to do with that film. They go back inside for three. hours and we just like the laser pointers like on the rookie for five minutes like so all I'm saying is if Iber flus if if flus did this on purpose he's a genius because what he gets is he could go to his players and be like guys I'm going to get you or he knows that they need a rest and he's like I'm going to get a shutdown for the weekend and it's going to look like I'm a hard oh and I was actually

working them too hard so I get respect from coaches around the league and the players I don't know what happened here but I'm just saying this is some genius shit we just figured out. I wish I could go back and do that. Like just level a guy. Like form tackle, just Terry Tate, a friend of mine. Yeah, like, trust me, this is all going to work out for us

in a long run. It's going to work out. But at the same token, that's a long play. That's a long play. Like, you know what I mean? No, it's not a long play. Yeah, it is. Because it's like, when was the last practice? We're going to be here anyways. Yeah, I guess so. Just make sure you get the, you get the feds out there the first fucking week. Oh, yeah, I'm texting. Yeah,

I'm snitching. I'm going to. If I, if I had So now is this the NFL PA like setting the tone for the season? You think? Like, hey, like we're like, we're not, we're not playing games. It's like them taking a shot the first play. It's like them taking a shot the first play. But they threw a touchdown. It feels like a touchdown to me.

Bro, there's nothing better in OTAs than going to the movies and not being forced to go to the movies by your coach. Steve Spagnola, you can't make me go to Invictus. I get to decide if I go to Invictus. You know what I'm saying? Like I get to decide if I want to go to the movies. I don't have to get on the Quicks bus and then get a ride back to the facility

before I get in my car to go home. That's what they do. Like, I've been working hard. I'm gonna take you guys to the movies. Congratulations, call your families and small children. Tell them it's gonna be seven days in a row you haven't seen them because we're going to see Van Helsing. I forgot.

And everybody's like, yeah, coach, thanks. Hey, Nate, it's a big week for you next week. Yeah. New Beach week. Oh yeah, new, new beach. So I have the only co-host at the moment in sports media, I think, that frequents these things. Maybe. Well, it's like I caught up in that.

Just tell me about the new beaches. So anytime I'm down in South Florida, there are a few, like, new beaches that me and my, my girlfriend, we enjoy, like, going to. Yeah. Last time we were there, actually, there were sharks in the water, got some videos of sharks. Or their eels? Mm. That's funny. A couple snake heads.

Yeah. Do you walk barefoot on the beach? A couple clams? Where there clams? Clams? Yeah. Sure. How about oysters? All that.

I get where you're going. I get what you're putting down. Sea urchins. Shit like that. So I actually have a pair of five-finger vibrums that I wear any time. time I'm at the beach and or like in the ocean of the river because I slash my foot in Hawaii on a on a reef before I do have a story about the new beach last time that's what I'm trying to get like what goes down okay like what is the code there we talk about codes all the

time code breaking what's a what are the codes at a new beach bro like just don't be a creep like honestly and like here's a story like showing up to a nude beach like like here's No offense, anybody's the newbies, but you know there's some creeps there. Here's a story. Yeah, okay. So me and my girl are posted up. Yeah. Like, there's people around, people chilling.

It's basically a beach, but everyone's naked or like, like, people are topless or whatever, whatever you feel comfortable with. Yeah. So, we're chilling and this dude's setting up just, like, this tent, like, and he gets all comfortable. And me and my girl look over. and this dude has a GoPro and he's being a creep and he's pointing it at like a group of girls that's next to us. So code break. Like my girl's like, yo, say something.

I was like, I'm definitely about to. And like literally I get up and like I go over and this is this is the weird thing. I'm scared to approach these girls because like we're on like New Beach. This is one of the first time and I don't know all the codes. And I'm like, should I like yell out to these girls? Oh, I thought you were going to go over the guy and confront him. First, I told them, I'm like, hey, like, before I went over to chase him over, I was like, hey, this guy behind me is being a creep. I'm about to go say something to him, but he has his GoPro out, and he's been filming you guys, and I just want to let you know that.

Like, because I'm about to go over there. I'm giving him three capes, cowboy. How many capes does they get? Not five. Listen. You kind of fell into your lap, this heroic. No, and so then after... I mean capes, Reed, before he finished.

I say four because he went to the women first. He went to the women first. And so once I did that, then I made the hard turn and I beeline towards him. And I go, what are you doing? You made the hard turn, huh? Chill out. So I beeline to ask him what he was doing. And sure enough, he had to go.

put on his hand he starts fumbling it saying nothing i listen i've never seen somebody pack up like a like a beach tank you don't have anything you're naked dude there's nothing to pack up no but that like shrivel that one thing up yeah yeah yo and this dude this dude literally like got all his stuff and then while he did that like the girls like while i was approaching him they're They were running to the lifeguard to see if they can do anything. But literally, this dude was like a fat old white guy. He got his stuff on. And it was like a movie.

He was like fumbling and running like off the beach. Just his balls everywhere. Like running off the beach. And the lifeguard like he had said he was like, yo like we can't do anything. Like we're sorry. Is there like a locker room? No. There's not like, it's not like a lot.

You get undressed in your car? What do you take your clothes off? On the beach. What do you mean? It's a new beach. You walk on to the beach. You put your clothes back on. Yeah.

No, but he. So there's some people who are kind of close. I thought you were going to, I thought you were going to get in a fight with a naked guy. No. Oh, no, no, no. Which is something else, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fight naked.

I wasn't, I wasn't going to fight. I'm like, what I was upset if the situation was different for next time, I would have lunged and grab the GoPro and like, and like, and like, ran away and ran away and tried to at least delete the stuff or take the SIM card out. Bro, you couldn't catch an old white guy? Three, two capes, dude. You couldn't catch an old white guy? Hold on a second.

But listen. You can catch that naked old white guy fumbling all the stuff to get his GoPro. Listen, he wasn't naked, but here's the thing. I was, and like you said, I didn't want to be, I don't want to be the naked guy running after some guy. Because at the end of the day, with no one knowing what's going on, it's just like, what the hell is that. So other than that. You remember, you remember the naked fighting. college? I do. The brawl? Do you remember it? Fuck yeah, I remember it. Oh my God. There was a fucking

brawl in the Virginia locker room circa if I so seven so when I do when I when I do my movie. Half the dudes it was like a Oz fight when I do my knives or anything like that when I when I do my movie I remember seeing that there was there there was two naked guys um a flying chest kick yes There was a flying chest kick, bro. A flying chest kick from a very large white man that I didn't think can jump or kick. He was naked. And he was naked. How did he land, dude?

He just hit the carpet. Like, that's the thing about flying leg kicks. You never think about when you land where you're going to land. Dude, like that was. You got to land, dude. That was a, unburn on your hip. That was an unbelievable fight.

That's like one of those fights that, like, honestly, like, if there was a camera in the locker room or like, or like, obviously, or can't. or if we had someone that took a video of that, like they would still be playing. That would be viral. Like, oh my God, because at the end of the day, it's like a fight that you would see on CCTV,

it's more of the extent of, it was like, it was all like, y'all were all stars. Everyone in that fight were stars. It wasn't like, oh, it's not like it's the rookies.

I mean, not the rookies, the first years or, or guys who don't play or walk-ons. It's like, yo these are these are your guys and like what's going on i just saw a guy's flying squirrel uh just johnny caged guy in the chest oh my goodness man it was it was borderline but the same thing with the nude nude nude beaches that's hey y'all'm glad you did the right thing man hey so that's why

you got a pedicure today yeah part of the reason man you got you got you got to you got to you got to you got to You got to stay ready. You can't walk around with shoes on out there. No, no, but you guys are giving me shit for giving a pedicure. No, not at all. There's not the wrong taking care of yourself, guys. Who said that? You're projecting.

I keep doing that thing. It's called gaslighting, bro. Don't gaslight me right now, bro. Hey, layup line. I gave you a moon pie. I got a thank you for that every man macaroon. Hey, we got layup line. I'm really in a, uh, in a Frank Zappa.

I feel like Frank Zappa might say some shit. God rest of his soul like Jack Del Rio. if I had to guess. I don't know. I don't want to put that evil on Frank Zappa, but Frank Zappa could play the fuck out of some guitar, man. You know that song I was playing earlier? Sure.

Yeah. You're talking about, oh, yeah, the Whammy Bar. Oh, yeah, yeah, I think they had all types of bars. So look, I probably know, is Frank Zappa on Guitar Hero, you think, or no? Frank Zappa is one of the greatest guitarists of all times. So is it, do you think any of his songs are on Guitar Hero? Sure, dude.

That's one of the, I think Rolling Stone ranked at the number 75 greatest. So I used to be... Guitar song of all time. Willie the pimp. I used to be lit in that game. It's the song. I used to kill the Whammy Bar for real in that game. I used to be real good.

I've never done that and I've never done the one at the arcade where you got a hopscotch around and shit. DDR? I can't dance. Bro, that... Yo, no bullshit. On the practice field. No bullshit. If you're good at DDR, like respect.

DDR is hard as shit. Like, honestly, if you're good at DDR, I think my sister's decent at it. Like, you look crazy doing it. Like, you look crazy doing it. But like, if you can do it, it's like... I need to put a DDR at a nudist beach. Here you go, bro. That shit sounds painful, dude.

All right, so we got Mina Kimes now. So Mina Kimes is going to talk to us. We're going to talk about a little NFL and NFL-adjacent stuff. And then we'll finish with one or two mailbags. If you're here in Arizona, Colorado, Indiana, Louisiana, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, Tennessee, or right here in Virginia, and you haven't tried, the Winbet app yet. I have great news for you. Winbet is now offering $200 in free bets for new users. That's right, $200, 200 big ones on a $50 bet. Winbet is basically giving you free money.

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And Mina, that's perfect, because I didn't know, you know, it's football season. It's not football season. It's a slow time. Sometimes there's not enough to talk about. I've always wondered how they score around the horn. Like, what is Tony doing back there? What's he doing back there? I'm not allowed to comment on this matter, actually.

Really? Yeah. To paraphrase Kevin Stefansky today, it's outside the realm of my responsibility. Oh, God. Too dark? Too dark already? No, no. Did Stefanski say that?

I'm paraphrasing him, but that's basically, you don't want any of fear with the legal process, I think is what they're going with. which is kind of interesting because the legal process began before they made this decision. So they obviously were whatever, taking into account. Yeah, well, the Cleveland Browns are going to Cleveland Browns even when they're acquiring good football players. It's like, it's quite interesting. So you're not going to tell me what Tony Realli is doing.

He's like, I've watched the show for many years on and off and they make the little noise. And I'm like, that was a good point. But like, does he have a chart back there? Can you give me like a hint? Nothing? No chart. No, it's all, it is, I can't say it is all off the top of his nagging. There's no, uh, no rules, really.

It's all, it's all very, very, um, up to him. What was Tony doing before Around the Horn? Well, he was the stats guy, stat boy on Around the Horn back when I believe, I hope I'm getting this right. Max Kellerman was hosting, he was part of the show and then became the host of the show. So he's had a real come up. And, and he's been the host of show now for a very, very good. very long time, right? It feels like forever.

That's like a guy that comes in as a GA and then becomes like a head coach. And now I see Tony Reilly every day and I have no idea how he's scoring around the horn. And I'm out of luck. I'm not going to know. Mina's not going to tell me. So, hey, Odell Beckham in NFL news because there's so much of it, crashed a wedding. It was Sean McVeigh's wedding. So I was going to ask you, if you could crash any celebrity wedding, what, wedding would it be? Past, possibly future?

Past. Yeah, what? Okay, you sent me this question three minutes ago and I've had three minutes to think about it and came up with two current future answers. I didn't think about the past. Obviously, like that's different. You need, that opens up a whole, there's been a lot of marriages. Time travel.

Maybe I want to go to like Cleopatra's wedding. I don't know if they had weddings, but you know, I feel like that would be my answer because I want to see some crazy shit. People smell terrible at Cleopatra's wedding. dude people smelled terrible probably at every historic event before like 1930 hey thank you dude me and makin uh argue about this all the time because he's a big downton abbey fan and i'm like yeah that's cool except everybody stunk he looks like makin is your he looks like he would be on downtown abbey upstairs though upstairs i don't

get the joke you look downstairs you're downstairs he's up camera oh he's uppity he's upity He's like the bourgeoisie. He's upstairs. Doesn't he look like a Victorian cousin who kind of has like a bit part with the paleness, length? Well, I've never seen Downton Abbey, so I don't understand upstairs. Explain the whole show to you. Actually, whenever people ask like, what time in history would you want to live? Why does anyone say before the present?

Well, I guess I could see before the current present. Maybe I would go back like 10 years. But when people are like in 1940, I'm like, what? Why would anyone, before modern health exists? Yeah, dude. Yeah, I got a hang now. We're going to cut your hand off. Now you got to play golf in Saudi Arabia to get that treatment. Too dark? We talked about that today. Not the darkest time.

We're going to talk about Saudi Arabia in a bit, but I left that off the docket for you and me. So I'm holding your feet to the fire here. Celebrity wedding. It could be, is it going to be Pete Davidson's next wedding? I was thinking about that because the circus of it all would be appealing, but I feel like I have a very obvious answer. Adele and Rich Paul. Oh, yeah, dude. Music, sports. I mean, think about how many famous athletes would be at that wedding and crazy pop stars. Yes, yes.

I mean, that's going to be the ultimate. I mean, that's going to be such a people watching event. I was going to go with Nicholas Cage because it's like a fun pack. It's like getting four movies in one pack because he's been married. four different times. So like if I could go backwards, I would pick one of these guys that's been married a few times. Guys or gals. Elizabeth Taylor had like five weddings. Nicholas Cage got married like four times. Willie Nelson got married a couple times. All right, I got another football question for you, Mina. Mac Jones was riding around with his dog.

What kind of dog should a quarterback have? Some people are looking at Mac Jones's dog saying, not a good dog for a quarterback. So I looked up this video. It is a multi-pooh. It's very cute. And it has, the videos of him holding the dog with the dog's ears kind of blowing in the wind

like the dog of the never-ending story, but like tiny. And I have to say, I have never liked Mack Jones than I did in that moment. Not that I disliked him before. Yeah. But to me, that is,

well, I was going to say, I was going to say it's BDE, L-D-E, little dog energy is what he has because he doesn't care he's not trying to impress you with a pit bull or whatever you know what the dog he's going to take the check down he's going to take the check down he's going to take the check down which i think is it's perfect i don't need to impress you with my big dog you know what i mean two has got like some sort of smaller dog and there's nothing wrong with that you know my dog's small but he's a mud yeah you got well lenny's the lenny lenny's the shit, dude. But you're not a pro quarterback. So, you know, I think for a podcaster, that's just fine.

For me, personally, we're going on the list here. Brady has a pit bull mix. Well, but that means he can develop talent. I know that some people would be offended by me saying pit bulls are a little scary at first, but like you've got to be able to coach those dogs. So I feel like Brady that it's not a red flag. That's like. Okay. You know how, okay, the scariest people, People on Earth, adult Disney people are in this category. People who get mad when you denigrate pit bulls. I want no part of this. Oh, yeah, dude.

Pipples are fine. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not going to put Lenny into dog park with pit bulls, but they're fine. Yo, Pipble Twitter might be more just like crazy than Dolphins Twitter, man. Like Pitbull Twitter, you know, I'll see a pit bull walking down the street. I'm like, fuck, that dog's muscular. And people like, what do you mean that dog's muscular? I'm like, it's a big dog.

I'm like afraid to say it. Yeah. And then you know, you've got your retrievers, which would make sense because I want my quarterback at home catching balls or throwing balls. Their dog practicing. But that hasn't worked out for Carson. Huskies, Malamutes, not team players. German Shepherds might be racist. Yeah, dude.

You know, the thing you said about Mack Jones was that he was doing a never-ending story thing. By the way, do you remember the dog's name? Oh, God. Is it Aslam? No, that's from the Lion, the Witch and the Wardroom. I'm mixing my, yeah. It's not Nosferatu. I don't know.

Falcour. Falcour. Falcour. And that dog didn't look well. I think we've talked about this on this podcast, actually. That dog did not look well. You said never-ending story. I'm thinking final destination.

Put that little fucking dog away, Mac, dude. Oh, yeah. Hereditary. Yeah, dude. He's got the dog like out the window. man it's not safe texting and driving kissing your dog on the mouth that's 70 miles an hour I loved it I loved it I have a Lenny has a who has two of them one for my car one for my husband's car he has a dog seat that's like basically a

throne so it is it it's that I'm gonna send you a picture and you're gonna be like I try well I will but in the car no no I have to this is very hard to describe visually it'd be easier we show you a picture but this is an audio format so basically it's a lifted car seat with like Sherpa lining so that the dog can see out the window. Right. So he's buckled in with his harness. Obviously. But he is eye, he's like eye level with the actual human window and it makes them calm because they don't, because imagine being a dog and you're in a car and you can't see what the fuck's going on and we're going.

You're probably stressing. You're like, am I going to the vet? He gets to see everything and he never complains about being in the car anymore. Dogs have no control. You know, we, I was talking about this the other day because I, you know, I have a. barn cat and my wife doesn't like cats Meg really doesn't like cats like yeah barn cat keeps a snake and the snakes and the mice away but I was thinking about this the other day because they always asked guys at the combine and we've talked about this before but cat or dog are you a cat or a dog

which is always like for guys they're like well I better be a dog that sounds more masculine but in actuality if you're a dog you have to ask every time you want food if you if you if If you want to go to the bathroom, you have to stand at the door. You got to do all this shit that autonomous cats don't have to do. And cats, cats can handle themselves, dude. They're self-sufficient. Isn't that everything you described exactly what NFL teams want out of players, though? That's what I'm saying.

Well, yeah, you're right. You're right. You're absolutely right. There's a method to this, I guess. If anybody says cat, they probably don't draft them for that reason. I just sent you a picture of Lenny's doxy. Let me see Lenny's dog seat. Yeah, what's worse?

Telling an NFL evaluator that you like cats or, you know, having like multiple arrests on your record? I think probably cats. Cats, yeah. Yeah, that guy's going to have like a podcast or something. You got to watch out for him. Some real anonymous reports about him falling downboards. I like Lenny's dog. I mean, basically it's a fucking, it's a plush dog bed with a with a seatbelt.

And he's noticed that he's. is high so he can see everything. He can see everything. This short king can see everything, dude. I love Lenny. All right, so you're going back to Seattle soon. Yeah, I learned this this week that you're going back to throw out a first pitch, yeah?

Are you there right now? When are you going up? No, I'm here. I'm leaving tomorrow, and then the pitch is Friday. Okay, so the pitch is Friday. Is it still Safeco Field? It's T-Mobile now. Oh, T-Mobile.

that doesn't fit as much rolls off the time it's like the crypto center um yeah hey so what have you got any tips do you have any strategy are you nervous like where's your head at um i'm definitely nervous you should be yeah uh i have gotten tips though so i've had like a few practice sessions at the middle league field by my house and for this episode of ESPN daily um we sent a video of me throwing to Tom House, you know, Tom House, the famous pitching coach who also teaches a lot of the quarterbacks how to throw. Oh, really? Like Brady, Alan. Yeah, like, you know, Eli talked about it on the Peyton and Eli thing when he talked about the Tom House stuff, when Dak Prescott was doing the little dance. Oh, that's Tom House's dance there?

I don't know, but Eli said it, so I hope so. Does Tom House have you out in the, in the backyard, you're just doing the DAC thing? Well, I didn't do that, but he taught me some very, a very, simple things that I was doing wrong that is such as, you know, not pointing my back ankle in the direction of the catcher. I played softball, like, as a really young kid, but from there, like from middle school on, all soccer. So I'm really, haven't thrown a ball in 20 plus years. So anyways, I practice a lot and I actually feel a lot better at it. I would say nine out of every 10 of my throws is on target so it's basically like i'm going to go out there and play russian roulette with my reputation yeah no you're going to be okay i you know i remind people on this show probably once every

couple months talked about it a couple shows ago uh my first pitch went terrible in st louis yeah what happened when i got drafted i'll make it quick because people here know this story but um i'd full wind up catcher told me in the bullpen hey if you do anything don't skip it i was like well i got you there up tried to hit like 80 miles an hour, sailed it, almost killed a World War one vet. The ball hit the backstop, which is brick, at the Cardinal Stadium there, and it rolled all the way to first base. It was like quiet in the stadium, dude. That's so bad because you were a rookie. Like if it was later, like, if you did it in Philadelphia, you'd probably like, ah, in the crowd would be like, we love you. Yeah, but you did it in St. Louis.

They were like sign of times to come here. And you want to know the worst part of it. I had cargo shorts on. Oh, God. Yeah. It was definitely a phase. They're coming back, though. They're coming back, though. Cargo shorts are coming back, Mina. All the awful early 2000s fashion is coming back.

You're damn right it is. More Seattle talk here. Good luck throwing that first pitch. Thank you. Seattle had the worst off season, according to your friend, Bill Barnwell. Do you have anything to say to Bill other than you're right, or is it? Are you ready to argue that? It's pretty hard to argue.

I think the only thing where you can kind of have a debate is if Russell Wilson didn't want out or if there was a way in which he could have stayed, I think you have to put more blame on Seattle's shoulders. But if he was out the door and, you know, he did give a list of teams he'd like to be traded to last year. I don't at a certain point like, can you really blame the team? I would say, you know, a Drew Locke, Geno Smith quarterback competition is somewhat. optimal. But I've made peace with it by watching clips of Bryce Young. Have you really? You're just, yeah, you're just thinking a year in advance. That's really, I like you, I like the fact that you, you've, you've actually spared yourself. It feels like riding the wave here as a Seattle Seahawk fan this year. I've come up with some slogans.

Sacrifice, 2022 for Bryce. That's good. There's dudes in the back giving thumbs up here. Yes. Okay, here's another one. Put it on a t-shirt. Lose proud for C.J. Stroud? Yes. Which do we like better? Sacrifice for Bryce, I think.

You gotta say 22. 22. You gotta say 2222. That's really good stuff. How many games are they going to have to lose to draft somebody like that? That's the problem because there's quite a few bad teams. Falcons are going to be up against us.

So, you know, and the problem is, I think the defense could be a little better than people think. Obviously, the skill players are still really good. Right. The offensive line is young, but I think it's going to get better. So I'm a little bit worried about being in limbo. Who do you think he has to come? Who do you think Pete Carroll has talking to the team this year?

It's a very unique circumstance. In the past, he's all types of interesting personalities come through and bless his players. Who would he have come in and talk to them about hopefully winning four games this year. The Dalai Lama maybe? I don't know. You need the Dalai Lama when you're losing

13, 14 games in the NFL. It is tough, dude. So Seattle fans, I know you think you got it bad, but imagine being a player on this team. I mean, it's clear they're not going to win a lot of games. And there are some nice players, too. Like, Quadra digs is still, you know, excellent. It sucks for a guy like that.

You know, it certainly does. He just got paid, so he's okay. Yeah, well, yeah, exactly. Yeah, if you're going to lose 14 games, don't do it for free. So staying in the NFC West here, you commented recently, I think on one of your podcasts about Trey Lance unlocking George Kittle. I don't know if that was the term that was used, but George Kittle feels pretty unlocked. What more can we get out?

I think I'm saying a new side. A new side. Show me the new side. What is Trey Lance going to do for George Kittle? This is on NFL. because Kiddle was like talking him up, which I loved by the way because it's such a fucking awkward situation there. Jimmy G is like the Undertaker meme right there.

He is right there. Right. Is it the undertaker in the front or the undertaker in back? Undertaker's behind him waiting for the guy to die. Is triple H? I don't know. No, I don't think it's, is it Triple H in front of them? No.

No. It's one of those GIFs that you see so often. It's like you don't actually pay attention to details. I'm sorry, what? Jiff, GIF. which is it okay not just gif but it's fine i used to say gif and then very online people like you told me it was jiff no nobody says jiff okay good no no gif i mean people always go to like the inventor said jiff but like doesn't make it right fuck the inventors dude look what the inventors

of america did okay um a little dust up for you there dust up um Man. Okay. Yeah. So, trying to get all these Jan-Six things to say out of my head. So, yeah, Trey Lance, George Kittle. Here's the thing. George Kittle is already unlocked. He's already amazing. Yeah. And then tells me, whatever. The thing I like about Lance, potentially, is what everyone likes, what we saw a sneak peek of when he did play, which is the ability to make plays outside of structure. And the point I was making was like, you know,

you know, one of the most fun things about watching Travis Kelsey is not, I mean, he's incredible in stretcher and all that and he's so versatile. But when a play breaks down and Mahomes takes off running and he's so good at finding those soft spots, you know, the zones or just playing backyard football and getting open for him. And we just haven't seen that with Kettle because he's never played with a quarterback who can create. Naturally, this inspired a bunch of, oh, so you think Trey Lance is Patrick Mahomes. Oh, yeah. Well, you know, there's a lot of, There's a lot of really thoughtless leaps and logic online. I think I even said in the clip, I am in no way comparing.

Right. You even have to put it in the clip and then they still don't read it. But I knew what you fucking meant. And I think it's true. I mean, like seeing George catch balls off schedule would be terrifying for teams. Now, you know, it's all the other downs. Is Trey going to be good enough? And for me, outside looking in, hearing, hey, he's worked with some, you know, quarterback gurus, hearing Shanahan's commentary, knowing about Jimmy's injury, I still, I'm having a hard time believing that he's going to be the guy there.

Well, it's not because of what we've seen, right? It's because what we haven't seen, which is him playing football, which raises the question, why didn't he play football? That's right. Why wasn't he used it all? And I think that's kind of what is. making everyone sorts of suspicious about it. Are we hiding something? Yeah. Like what's going on? What are you guys doing over there?

I'll push back on that a little bit. I mean, something I hear a lot. Please, because I don't know. Yeah. Well, it's complicated because Kyle Shanan was obviously involved in the drafting of Tray Lance, right? Yeah. But historically, I mean, he hasn't only played with quarterbacks like Jimmy G. But like he loves Jimmy G.

It's hard. It's hard to move on. He famously loved Kurt Cousins. Yeah. Right? Yeah. And I think, you know, those quarterbacks, those two quarterbacks in particular are very good at playing within the structure of his offense. So I guess it's entirely possible.

Maybe he just thought Trey wasn't capable of doing that. I don't know. Yeah, that's another question. Does Kyle Shanahan want somebody who's playing off schedule? Yeah, I mean, you go back to the RG3 days a little bit and what they were able to do there. I always feel like Kyle Shanhan's offense kind of hit its apex in the Matt Ryan 2016 year who like Matt Ryan in a way is kind of. kind of like, if you're building the like little Pokemon chart, you go from Jimmy G to Kirk Cousins to 2016, Matt Ryan.

And I don't know. Like, again, you got to think he was involved in the drafting decision and he knew how inexperienced Trey Lance was. So maybe that was the plan all of long. What confused me was like when they weren't using him in the red zone, there were so many opportunities where, you know, given his skill set, I thought he could have been, you know, a weapon for them. they just would not use him, even when Jimmy G was clearly injured and ineffective down the stretch.

Yeah, that was the part that kind of spooked me a little bit. I was like, oh, here's a tailor-made situation where you can, you know, like you alluded to, like boost up some of your gadgety, like kind of variable plays in the red zone that keep defenses up at night. Frankly, like, you run Trey Lance out there for three plays a game. That's a two-hour chunk of meetings that everybody's in all week. You know, like I always say that if I was ever an offensive coordinator, I would just do some shit two, three times a game just to play mental, you know, just to wage some mental warfare with defensive coordinators. And that would have been a perfect way to add another wrinkle in that offense. They haven't done it yet.

We'll see. That begs the question. Do you think Jimmy G's traded? I mean, do you feel like there's enough evidence that his shoulder's going to be where it's supposed to be to garner that kind of attention where somebody gives up draft capital or what's going on there? Yeah. The solar thing really threw a wrench into it. I would also say just the way the offseason played out, like the order in which teams acquired quarterbacks,

like a lot of the potential bidders for Jimmy G moved early. Like a team like Washington trading for Carson, which I didn't quite understand. Or Indianapolis. Suddenly Matt Ryan becoming available because of the Sean Watson sweepstakes in his own team doing that. So Indianapolis, which is, I think, a team we thought maybe would have gone for Jimmy gets out of the question.

And then Pittsburgh, you know, grabbing Mitch Trubisky and drafting Pickett, suddenly they're not going, with picking as the first round pick doesn't seem likely there. So you're down to really Seattle, which doesn't make sense. They won't do it. We're shocked. Do you believe that? I do. Honestly, I don't know if it's smart, frankly. They're going to win the shit out of seven or eight games if they have Baker Mayfield. I don't mean that as a slight toward, I definitely mean it as a slight towards Seattle. I'm not doing this gratuitous shot at Baker thing. I just think like, a guy like Baker, it's just not a fit to drop him into a chaotic situation.

I mean, like, what are you getting out of that? You're getting a marginal improvement and you're going to be doing. You're not going to be, what was your slogan? Sacrificing for Bryce, 2022. You got to say sacrifice, 22. Sacrifice. Yeah, you're not doing that if you got Baker Mayfield. You're not sacrificing.

Yeah, you get competent quarterback play and you wouldn't be a contender. raises an interesting question about fandom because as quick as I'm to say like do the long-term thing focus on rebuild I also totally understand fans who just want to watch good football like I don't I never want to be that analytics person who's like you got the season's out you know just throw it out the window I understand why that's not like teams some fans pardon me and teams as well like the new Berlin States want to be competitive year after year. I mean, I wouldn't say it's how I would run a team necessarily. But I do think like when we're seeing headlines, I saw one today,

Matt Ruhl, Sam Darnold looks great. There's still some desperate players out there. So I don't think it's the end of the road for, well, I mean, I do think Jimmy G at some point is going to be a move, but I think he'll have options. Jimmy G moving, we just, we just talked about it. And that's, I just want to say this about Jimmy G. I've always respected Jimmy and threw some really up and down play.

I think that's how well liked he is, that you see him anytime they finish a game, whether he threw two picks in the third quarter, whatever it might be walking off with his teammates, and they love the guy. And I think that just goes to show like it's kind of the opposite of the Baker Mayfield thing where, you know, like Baker's, that Baker thing kind of soured. And I'm not saying he deserved all of it. But what I am saying is if you catch more bees with honey, and that also applies to being a leader and a quarterback in a locker room.

You could always see that about Jimmy G. People were willing to overlook inconsistent play because they really liked him and they just rallied around the guy. And there's something to be said for that. As silly as that sounds, I think Jimmy will be well liked by every guy in San Francisco's locker room after he leaves. I hate what I'm about to say because I feel like I've been painted as a Jimmy G. Hater because of one quote that I feel, I missed it. I missed it. What was the quote?

Um, I was just critical of him. What I did I, you know what? I just said he like wasn't doing the work on the day. He wasn't responsible for the team success at near the end. And I frankly, that is correct. But it sort of. Oh, I remember that. Yeah. So, oh, I, I remember that. Jeff Garcia acted like an asshole about it. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. And you know what sucks. You know what sucks is I, I've been around Jeff and he was coaching and not to like bring something up again because I, I hate when people like, I hated that. I just thought it was just so fucking Bush League. But just argue the point, man.

They have, they have, yeah, right. That's literally the truth. Everybody knows that. And that's not to say that he hasn't made good plays for the Niners or that he's not a solid football player. They don't make, quarterbacks don't grow on trees. This guy's a top 20 quarterback in the NFL. I totally agree. He is top 20.

So I mean like and that's a compliment dude. Yeah, there's the win because of guys and the win with you can win games with him. We've seen that. Did you win to a Super Bowl? What I was going to say is his teammates love him. And I did kind of that goes to the memory of I think was it the Packers game or was one of the playoff games where one of the announcers was like, oh, he's unfairly criticized. And you know, Debo Samuel was just telling us how much he loves him. And he literally timed it with Debo getting thrown a hospital ball and just get.

Yeah, just getting laid out. You're like, you know, and it is tantalizing because I was in New England with Jimmy, and I remember when Tom got suspended, Jimmy was bawling a little bit early in that season before we went on the road to Arizona and beat them in a little bit of a shootout. And then the next week we did, I forget, well, maybe we lost the bills or something. No, the next week we beat the dolphins and he was balling. And then in the third quarter, his shoulder like exploded. And then we got Jacoby Brissette for a week or two.

too. But I've always like respected Jimmy as a guy. So anytime people are slandering Jimmy or what they take is slander, it's nobody's saying he's the worst quarterback in the league or he's this bad guy or anything. Like his teammates love him. He's played in a Super Bowl. He's been an inch away from another one. Almost beat the Super Bowl champions three times last year. Somebody's going to want Jimmy in their locker room. Somebody wanted Carson Wentz in their locker room. You know what I'm saying? I'll just say this. I would rather have Jimmy. Yeah, and you know what? I think that I haven't had the time to process that,

but, you know, I can't argue with that. You know, I can't argue with that, especially because on Carson's last stop, you know, the play is going to be erratic, both guys, a different kind of erratic. One's like a different kind of chaos. You know, Carson's a little bit different from a chaotic. I don't know, those personality types are like neutral, chaotic

or whatever, whatever, evil chaos. chaotic or all that stuff. Is Jimmy perfect neutral? Jimmy's like perfect neutral. Yeah. And like a great guy and everything, but like the way people are describing Carson and I don't remember him that is like this is that he's just he's he's had trouble connecting to the locker room. And so yeah, Ty would go to the guy who connects with the locker room. And so yeah. You know, it's interesting though. Like that smoke was around Carson. He still got traded for like two seconds. Meanwhile, Baker has I actually would say less smoke from a locker room perspective. Like there haven't been that many stories about, but people are so out on him.

Yeah, here's my thing about Baker, man. I think the Odell thing kind of hurt his public standing because Odell's such an icon, man. And sometimes in situations, it's not all one player's fault. Like, it's just a bad fit, you know. And Baker, who's struggling to hit the broad side of the bar at different stretches, he's hurt, he's playing hurt. Now he's got a new player, you know, and that's such a positive, right? Like everybody's like, oh, this is automatically a good thing. Well, maybe in his head he's nervous about getting Odell the ball and maybe he's overthinking it and maybe he's an overthinker and that sort of thing. I think that there's nuance in every relationship in the NFL and that includes like player to player. It's a complicated

relationship and I'll just say this. Nobody hated Baker Mayfield until he sucked. I've always said that. Always right. Yeah. And that's the way it is. And I've been there where like, hey, when you're a fucking one of the big dogs on a team, all your jokes are funny. You know what I mean? Like everybody's laughing. Everybody's friendly, the whole thing. You get hurt.

You know, you're standing changes in the locker room. Like people laugh a little less. Like people are, you know, hitting your phone a little less. Like being popular in the NFL means making plays. And when Baker stopped playing well,

and I always cautioned people with this, and Baker's a perfect example. like playing hurt doesn't get you anything. Playing hurt only gets you something if you're playing in a Super Bowl or if you're playing in a contract year or something of that nature like where there's something in it for you. That was a nobody cares that he was hurt, you know, and now everybody hates the guy and he's got to start over. Now I do think there's times where he could be better about just knowing when to like say a little less. And the irony is that the first time I met him when he was a rookie, I was like, dude, I love you using your voice. I like this personality.

He just got to find the governor. You know what I mean? mean? Yeah. You know, and I think, I think Baker's going to have another shot, but I wonder what your perspective is, and we can get into the Sean thing a little bit, but like, what do you do if you're Baker and shit hits the fan in Cleveland as it maybe should, and they need him to start eight to ten games? Like, if you're Baker Mayfield, are you going to put on that Browns uniform and go out

there and sling it? I'm trying to think of an analog for this in life where maybe it's like your ex needs you in an emergency. but it's different because there undeniably is an incentive for Baker Mayfield to play in that situation, which is he could rebuild his value and do it on an extremely good foot.

Well, well, I actually hit pause. Have you looked at the depth chart for the Browns lately and their skill players? It's not that great, huh? Look at the wide receiver group. It is. I mean, they got Amari, so it's not as dominant.

And I like the Amari. I like the Amari deal better and I liked obviously the Christian Kirk deal and I could everybody could be wrong and I think is it was sexy to laugh at that contract but Cooper deal looks amazing now given all the trades that people I mean what they gave up he I mean he's 19 a year right Christian Kirk's like 17 a year like this is this is the guy who's proven and he's he's entering a less crowded wide receiver core where he can kind of be the guy so I think I think they could really see to your point um like a big return on him but yeah there's not a ton of depth now

there's other guys that I remember last year or the last couple years just making a ton of big plays. But that offense is just explosive. When you have Nick Chubb and you got that zone scheme work and people just get open. It's a perfect scheme for Baker and his style of play. So logically, the head's like you got to play. You rebuild your value. You want to remain a starter in the NFL. I believe Baker may feel it is one of the 32 best quarterbacks in football. Right. Seems like undeniable. And it's the smart thing to do. But then your heart has got to be like if everyone involved in this. And you can't, you know, it's like a head versus heart thing

because there's got to be part of him that just wants to stick it to them. But it would be, I think, self-defeating. I never understood and I still don't understand. And maybe you can help me with this, the saying. And I know what they're saying, but don't cut your nose off to spite your face. Like, what the fuck does that mean? What does that mean? is like don't hurt yourself

to piss your face off that's what Baker don't cut your nose off to spite your face whatever all those old people say all the time Matt you've never heard this before I hadn't heard it before you've never heard don't cut your nose off to spite your face no it makes sense though like don't do something

self-destructive that's what Baker would be doing if they handed him the keys for eight games on this pretty well constructed roster who have like Super Bowl aspirations he could play well and never leave. How fucked up would that be? I mean, if I'm Baker Mayfield,

I'm going to play six to eight games now because I'm not sure that I'm going to get a chance to start six to eight games again. And that's the reality in the NFL. Like he just hasn't played himself into a situation where, and part of that's been his play, part of that's injury, and part of that's just the drama.

But he hasn't played himself into a situation where he can say, I'll sit this one out and wait for my next turn. Because next year's quarterback class is better, right? How many guys spend two years on the shelf? I mean, James Winston's one, but otherwise, like, there's not a lot of guys that get like two-year breaks and then get a starting job. I mean, like, you've got to hope somebody gets hurt. Baker has the quality that Winston had that I think would make him get a second chance, which he was a number one overall

pick. Right. And the NFL does not give up on number one overall picks. But, you know, we're talking about a guy who is an injury year removed from playing at an above average level. Like I think, you know, the year before, people would probably characterize him as a top 15 quarterback. And I don't think it's impossible for him to get back there in this offense. I don't either. But let's, I mean, put yourself in his head for a second, Chris. How petty are you feeling? I'm feeling really petty.

You're talking to a guy that kind of retired to be petty. Okay. So like, I, like, I'm just telling you that my. middle name is fucking petty dude like i i'm richard petty okay baker mayfield is not as petty well maybe he is actually but baker mayfield if he has an opportunity by the way during the gatorade zero you've got you've got the that's the the the best flavor of any gatorade product there's a glacier cherry like 26 packs in micro bro oh give me all the artificial stuff in that i'll take it to the face for that flavor um imagine

training camp it's 100 degrees mina as an aside real quick before we get back to baker mayfield and i'm coming off the field and somebody hands me a glacier cherry and it's been an ice bucket like that is the best moment it's almost worth going back and playing football just to get that gatorade you know it was also are you trying to get sponsored wait we we have a history of using this platform to get sponsored you throw me the oop i throw you the oop you know how is how is being a spin influencer but i got in philly we used to get rita reada's water ice too which is Rita's. Oh, fresh off the field.

Anyways, you do a drill. You set the edge on Jordan Milata five minutes later. You get a Rita's water ice. It's a water ice. But Baker Mayfield, man, I think it's in his best interest. If he has any opportunity to play in Cleveland, people are going to do nothing but respect him, especially in light of the reason he'd have to be back out there. I see it on the internet.

I mean, it's the internet, but I have friends who are in Cleveland. I have friends who are outside of Cleveland, but are Browns fans. There is a large pro-Baker sentiment. And, you know, obviously that wasn't there at the end of the season. But there were, first of all, there are many Browns fans who are angry with the Watson signing. And I think grow angrier with each new revelation, which, you know, reveals how little research the Browns actually did. Shocker. And I do think they'd be immensely sympathetic to Baker.

Now, as we and I have discussed, that sympathy will last as long as he plays decently. But I also think you have to hit rock bottom sometimes in the NFL to like figure out what the fuck is next for you. And I think this is a situation for Baker. He can go one or two ways. And if he has this opportunity in Cleveland by way of, you know, them not doing their research, I think he shouldn't look that gift horse in the mouth or cut his nose off despite his face. or throughout the baby with the bathwater. With the bathwater, dude. Don't do any of that stuff.

Baker. That's a weird one. Who did that? Who did that? And then inspired that slogan. Call the cops. All right. So anyways, Bill Barnwell said Seattle had one of the worst off seasons.

Detroit, you've been very complimentary of the lions, man. Talk to me about where the lions are after this off season. Okay. This is one of those things where it. So I had to feel the eights on a podcast, Meantam Show featuring Lenny, and we said mildly positive things about the Texans a few months ago. And the Houston newspapers aggregate. They were like, ESPN analysts don't hate the Texans.

Like they were just so, and I feel like that kind of happened to me with the Lions because like what I've actually said is they're moving in the right direction. And they might win games to put them out of the young Strout sweepstakes, which I think is a totally reasonable take, but suddenly it's become Munich-Imsink the Lions are going to win too many games. Come on. No. We're just telling you how it is. Jared Goff might mess around and win you seven games

this year. Seven. Seven feels totally doable. And I think Vegas is over and under, I think is a six and a half, which I shouldn't know. I should not know that, but I have thought hard about betting me over on Detroit. Six and a half? I think so. I think so. Is that, is that

correct Kingston look that that bad boy up but I'm hammering the over you know me I've been all in on Dan Campbell and I think a lot of people initially when I was screaming about how awesome this guy is people were like typical meathead supporting a meathead you know because the whole ankle biting thing I honestly think when you look at that class and I can't talk about Dan Campbell without talking about Brad Holmes or the awesome staff that he's kind of put together yeah and the way that team fights for them. Arthur Smith, Staley, Sala, Siriani, Campbell. This guy's like risen to the top, especially relative to the Urban Meyer disaster. I mean, that class of coaches, he's done the most with what he's got, in my opinion. And I was going to ask you, like, who do you think lasts the longest out of all

these coaches? I mean, if you can last a while in Detroit, I don't know if that's hard or easy because it's all about like relativity and what you've experienced there before. It was Smith, Staley, Campbell, Sala. Siriani. Siriani. Urban's gone. He's working at like FS1.

Cancel culture, not real. Oh, imagine that. Holy shit. Don't get me started, dude. I just watched the match on TV the other day. I thought Aaron Rogers was in a coffin, dude. Nothing against the guy. guy I just if there's anything if I ever see Aaron Rogers because I really have nothing

against the guy I mean he told a lie that sort of thing but if I ever saw him at like an event I'd be like dude glad to see you I thought you were canceled like I would just more fuck with him yeah holy shit was it tough did you need like one of those oh like no gifson's out here making movies dog hey nothing nothing less nothing dude okay so I actually think it would probably be staler, Siriani, simply because they have the best teams. I just,

unfortunately, like, not unfortunately, but like, with coaches, if you, it's like quarterbacks. It's like being drafted.

If you enter into a bad situation, just historically, your tenure is likely to be less long. I do think, you know, Campbell, Sala are going to get a little bit of a longer leash because how bad the situations were.

And I think, you know, they've done a good job endearing themselves to their fan bases. But ultimately, like, you got to start winning at some point. Yeah, Detroit might be the perfect situation, though, because, you know, like it's not New York, okay?

It's not Philly, right? If Siriani lasts longer than any of these guys, he must be doing a really good job because the pressure, I mean, it's Doug Peterson won a Super Bowl. He was out two years later. Yeah, which was also really weird, right? But the other thing with Detroit is like, it's like the runway he has is really nice because this year, contrary to my Super Bowl pick, nobody really thinks they're going to win a lot of games. he just needs to win a bit more, show a little bit more improvement, and then next year is... That's crunch time for him. You either get one of those quarterbacks or you go balls to the wall trying to get one of whatever veterans are around.

And I think they can because it's a good situation for a quarterback. What's Minnesota doing in that division? At the beginning of this off season, I was like, blow it up. But part of that's because I hate the Vikings. What, like, what's their plan? Are they like, hey, we're Kirk Cousins football team? Is that what they're saying? The next, we're really doing this.

They're running it back. I think the difference is they think that the coaching change will help. Will help. Because, you know, they obviously have really good skill players. Offensive line is just okay. Kirk is an endlessly fascinating quarterback to me. Yeah. But when as soon as they hired Kim O'Connell from the Rams, I was like, oh, they're keeping Kirk.

I just knew it because he's such a Ramsey quarterback, schematically. I just didn't think they would actually blow it up with him. You're really putting them in a box there, a glass box. He's just a Rams quarterback. All right. So anyways, speaking of the Rams,

Aaron Donald, I'm so fucking happy, dude. I'm so happy. That money could not have gone to a better person than Aaron Donald. I just, I'm telling you, I've told these stories before.

I can remember when he rolled up to Rams camp in Earth City, had regular ass clothes on, had a regular-ish-ass build before he got like pro-nutrition and all that stuff and would just sit in those film rooms until after dark and we had meetings every day,

seven in the morning, training camp. Guy did not care. He was out on the field, working extra, not to show that he was working extra. He was just working extra. He's a great dude. And he's got like 100 mil now,

100 smil coming to him over the next three years. He's getting like, baseball reliever money. Saudi golf league money. But he doesn't know anybody for, he don't know anybody at gambling debt. So that's really,

he's actually going to see all his money. So tell me what you would buy. First off, what do you think of the contract? Let me ask you that. Well, um, just what you got to do now,

right? You're like, do you not pay the best player in the world? You don't, you don't pay him. But I think something that confused me and I actually like to get your thoughts on. Do you actually believed he was considering retirement? Because I don't. No. Somebody said that to me. I mean, maybe he was worn out. I mean, I think it's been a long few years.

I think he took the Super Bowl really hard, the loss. And I think he cares more than people realize he cares. Like, you know, there's caring and then there's like just consuming you. And I think he's, he's that type of worker. And I think it's just been a long couple years. And I think, you know, he's got a little family now and stuff. When you have a family later in your career and you've done a lot of things you want to do, you're just like, I mean, I was done and I did what I did.

I could imagine if I had a family and I was Aaron Donald, I'd be like, I'm getting on my yacht and I'm going to the guy that owns Virgin Airlines Island, Richard Branson, Necker Island down there in BVI. I would buy an island like that if I were, if I were Aaron Donald. What would you do with that money? With $100 million?

I mean, yeah, on top of what he already has. God, Lenny already has so many things. He can't get that dog thrown. He's got too many items. Too many items. I would definitely upgrade my housing situation. And then I think I would want in order a personal chef. I'm dreaming so small.

We're talking about $100 million. I'm like, I'd like a personal shop. You're like, yeah. I'd like a storage unit to store some of my things. Well, one idea. I thought about this while watching at Atlanta. Because a really rich guy had like a Nando's in his house. I don't have you ever been to Nando's.

A what? Nando's. It's like a chain in the UK. It's very good. It's like a chicken place. I'd be saying it wrong. It's like hipster chicken. Anyways, I would have what is my favorite fast casual?

Nando's coming to Texas. Nando's coming to Texas. It's pretty good. It's super moist chicken. What would I have? Because, yeah, I feel like I. I'd want like a bunch of chain restaurants that I could eat at whenever I want, but only me. Yeah, that's tight.

And nobody would know about it. Yeah. Do you, do you, when, when I was in consideration for the USC job, uh, in my own head, I had, I had, I had made some terms and conditions like a Lincoln Riley list. And one of them was a chick filet inside that's open on Sunday. Yeah. Oh, I would buy chick filet. Yeah.

And radically change their politics. Open it. because it's it's it's my most problematic love i i will if i'm in an airport and there's a chick-fil-a in another terminal and i got like 20 minutes until my flight i am fucking gunning it i and then and then i'm like i can't post pictures of myself eating the that's your l-iv dude that's your that's your that's your that's your saudi golf league you're if you were phil mickleson your saudi golf league is chick-fil-a yeah or steal the recipe make my own competitor restaurant bro i got to easy solution for Chick-fil-A. I would gladly grab with my blue power aid and my waffle fries.

I would, no disrespect to Glacier Cherry as you take a swig. I would gladly grab like Ephesians 16-3 out the window. I would gladly take that with my receipt. If you want to just hand that to me on a Sunday, maybe I'll look at it one day. Like, imagine, could we come to some sort of an understanding Chick-fil-A? Okay, I offer, there's no way Chick-fil-A is worth. with $100 million. So I offer, I do a buyout. You don't think they're worth 100 mil?

I don't know. I don't know how these chicken places operate. I don't know the margins. Hmm. Well, I immediately reverse. Chick-fil-A net worth. It's going to be. You have your chicken net worth.

I'm okay with the Bible stuff's fine. The Sunday stuff's fine. It's like the LGBT. Yeah. That's what I'm going to. That's what's what I'm repairing at my new chicken spot. That stuff's awful, but I'm talking about if they, because on Sunday I'm always like,

fuck, I'd love to get some problematic chicken. And I'm hung over and, you know, now I've got to go to Popeyes, which is awesome, but, you know,

Chick-fil-A feels healthier. I can get a rap and that sort of thing. I could get John 316 on the way out the door. Just leave it open on Sunday. Dude, you can play church music. Elvis has an awesome gospel album that I actually like. What's your worst fast food?

Like you're not your most problematic socially, but your most problematic fast food fave like that you just are ashamed of. Fuck, that's a good question. Arbys. Arbill is always high. Arbys. Arbys.

Yeah, everybody, it's very polarizing. Can you at least admit that they have good fries? Because Cowboy Reed here says that they have. Yeah, thank you. Even she says that they have good fries. But Arby's, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like going to a deli. But better, honestly.

I'd rather eat a roast beef sandwich with, I'll go to Arby's and just get a plain roast beef sandwich. No toppings, nothing. Yeah, I love Arby's. I don't know about that. That feels dry. No, it's not dry because Arby's is great. You should try it.

You said the chicken's moist. Not even. Anyways. All right. So, Hard right, turn to Darius Leonard. You were talking about Lenny, your dog. How about the best Lenny athlete in sports? Darius Leonard had back surgery, which scares me because back surgeries, and I'm not, again, anything that starts with, I'm not a doctor.

People are like, well, exactly, don't say anything. But I worry about back surgeries, especially at this juncture in the season, because it feels like, or in the off season, it kind of feels like it's one of these things they were thinking about doing and they kind of kicked the can down the road or it didn't get better. and now we've got a back surgery and he's going to be running right up against training camp in some capacity. Like having a back and going into training camp immediately kind of sucks.

Like objectively, it's a really tough deal and they're hard to come back from. So let's say he's not healthy. I fully expect him to be healthy because he is Darius Leonard. He's going to do everything in his power to be healthy. But due to the timing and everything, let's say he's not healthy the first month of the season.

Is there any player at the second level in the NFL that means more to a defense than him. And what does that defense look like without him? First, I want to clarify. I chuckled briefly because while you were talking, I remembered an Arby's meme I had seen like a year ago. You were describing something very serious about surgery

and Dariuslander who's a great player. It's not a, it's, I don't think I can hate you. I don't think I can. Okay, go ahead. Okay, so I would argue Fred Warner and that's it. You think Fred might be more important? I do. Although, yes, I would say especially when Robert Sala was running that defense, I think D'Amika Ryan, some of the changes that they've made make it the defense, you know,

which is not so much that sort of old-style Seattle cover three as dependent on Warner's coverage abilities, but I think he's the best linebacker in football. And so much of what they do is contingent upon him covering so much space on that football field and he's so good at it. He's incredible. But I would put Leonard next. Leonard next I would put also not just because he's all around an incredible player, but he's just such a playmaker, right? I mean, I'm sure he leads all off by the linebackers and force fumbles or less fears.

I was watching something last night on him forcing turnovers, man. Like he was talking about the air between an arm and the ball when guys brace themselves, when they're falling in a routine situation. Like he's so good and ball aware. I mean, because that's a whole other sport in and of itself. Like you could be really great at football and have no ball instincts. He just has everything. Ball skills, coverage, side line to sideline, he's intelligent.

He's a leader. And then to boot, he's going to take the ball away. So I think it's a huge loss for them. I don't like if he's not available week one, especially with a new quarterback, and it's a big year for them. I'd hate to see that defense take a step back. Yeah. I think the front could be really fun, too, with, you know, quidipay in year two.

Now you've got In Gokwe on the other side. There was the kid they redshirted, who was, I think, from Michigan, who's Oienbigo, maybe is his name? I think the front's really good. And did we get a pronunciation on, because we had unique. We had unique. It's unique, by the way. I think we went back and forth on this like a summer ago. It took me a year.

But Unique was on. And I think he's going to have as big a year as he's had in his career rushing next to Buckner. Next to Buckner. I mean, come on. God. Is Buckner one of the most, like, hipster football players to love? Do you think so? Do you think so?

Not in our cohort, but like. As a fan. Like if you were a fan. I feel like he's just like one of those like your favorite football players, favorite football player kind of guys. That's a great question. Who are? I didn't mean hipster and like unknown.

I just mean like the guys that football players like. No, I know. Like the ones that like you don't, you're not going to impress impress anybody being like my favorite players like, you know, JJ Watt or something. Like Buckner is that guy, dude. And so interesting we were just talking about San Francisco, two teams made out pretty well.

Now, Kenlaw hasn't been as good, but they had to make a decision there and split those two guys up. You had to pick one of the other. Eric Armstead's been fucking great too. I would love your thoughts on this. that front for Chris Kassarik. They can just take anyone, Arden Key, Contavius Street, bring back Carrie Hider. And obviously you get to play with both.

DJ Jones, sneaky loss, by the way, the no-sackle. Yeah. And suddenly everyone's a freaking superstar. Just rushing four. It's unreal. Like I don't know what they put in the water around there. Arden Key, again, like you don't give up on first rounders, right? Like, but there's a reason for that.

Like, you know, and I wonder the same thing about a guy like, uh, firl or however you're saying his name, Farrell or however. Oh, yeah. Yeah, furl. Uh, you know, maybe at some point a guy like that has a better year. Uh, but like, Arden Key is a perfect example. You know, you, you got a lot out of Hider and I've always really liked Hider. Um, very underrated player.

But Chris Kassurik, a little background. When I was a free agent for the first time in my career, I actually had a conversation with Chris Kusurik on the phone for a relatively long time and almost took a visit to Detroit because of Chris Kaserk. Like he's got that kind of reputation. He's a guy who just, the guys play hard. They go a thousand miles an hour. You think about Rod Marinelli and people like that.

That name rings bells for D. Lyman. Chris Kasurik is like the next generation of that type of D-line coach. I'm telling you, come out of retirement, join San Francisco, six sacks. Guarantee. At 37. Chris is just going to have me, yeah. I mean, like there's, but I'm telling you like that's a really fun line. you make a great point.

And the indie line is going to be a lot of fun. But I just worry about it if Darius is a little bit unhealthy. So something to keep your eye on. Mina Kimes, thank you so much for your time. And hope to have you on soon to talk about the Detroit Lions some more. Who had the best offseason in football. When they go 17 and O, you can have me back on. Okay, good.

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I can't believe you didn't know she went to Yale. I did it was one of the well that's why I didn't go to Yale but it was one of those uh yeah she went to Yale man New Haven Connecticut some of the best piece of in the United States that was some smart talk with me know you want to do some dumb talk with some mailbag yeah yeah yeah I got all that smart out of the way let's get dumb you should do that bit what bit here's the mail it never fails what here's the mail that never fails it makes me want to whack my tail when it comes I want to well mail mail bag I was so bum when my kid well I still got a three-year-old but when Waylon stopped watching blues clues that made me sad was it like you you were

watching it with him was it the new one newer one the newer one the young guy I didn't know the old guy what I didn't watch blues clues dude I was born in 1985 yeah he's we were too old for blues clues yeah dude I saw it like a little bit you're probably on the edge you're on the edge You're on the edge of people that are too old to watch Blues Clues. Yeah, you guys aren't going to do this to me. Like, I don't believe you. You guys watch Blue Clues. I swear to you, I could not believe the OG Blues Clues guy was a white guy.

I was like, I read an article about him and they were like, you know, guy 47 years old or whatever the fuck he is. I was just barely old enough for it. We just got a letter. We just got a letter. We just got a letter. I wonder who it's broke. Yeah. I once got bullied by like hundreds of kids on the same day. I was wearing a shirt like that guy wears and every kid at the school I taught was like, you look like the blues clues guy.

You had a blue and blue shirt with stripes on it? I had like, I think I know that shirt. I have like a colored shirt like he had. I don't know. Oh my God. I wish TikTok was around in the rafters, bro. You would have got fried on TikTok. No, you have to wear those shirts anymore, bro. Hey. All right, go ahead. We're here together. Let's get dumb. Questionable Code Break last week. You talked about it on Twitter. There was a man at Disney World. There was a man. He is no longer.

He is no longer, yeah. A man at Disney World proposed to a significant other. It was in a restricted area. While he is on his knee holding up the ring, a Disney World employee runs through, grabs the ring very smoothly, runs off, and utters them out saying that it's a restricted area,

and that's not possible. Do you stand by, your no code break take. No code break at all, dude. No code break at all. Here's why. Over 50% of marriages end in divorce. So first off, we might be looking at that guy

is saving them a lot of hardship. Now, of course, the aforementioned man did exit the restricted area and go to the mini mouse exhibit, probably to hit a knee and propose to his girlfriend. And on top of that, even though you're a Disney employee, you know that Disney proposals are just fucking... Did you propose at Disney? So...

Did you propose at Disney? I didn't propose at Disney. You were planning on it. But I did a... I did a public proposal. Oh, okay. Let's talk about your... At a show in Mexico at a resort.

And you had to plan it. I had to plan it. But like you said, it ended in a divorce. Right, dude. I wish I was there. I would, I definitely know what I know now. I would have fucking, I would have rushed in there and fucking. And I would, I would, I would, I would have Johnny Cage the exchange.

Piggyback off of that. What that employee did, he was absolutely warranted to do. Because at the end of the day, you have to sometimes, like in my case, you have to pay to do that. Really? It's a show. It's a whole thing. Imagine how many people want to get married at Disney. Let me propose to my girl.

You probably have to pay for that, bro. You don't think so? Absolutely. No, it's true. I know, but that's the state of the world. And obviously he didn't pay. And that employee, hey, he did exactly what he... Oh, it's against the rules.

Yeah, it's against the rules. The restricted area. But the way, the what I respect is how smoothly he grabbed that ring. It could have fumbled out the box. He walked off. He did everything. Like, hey, nope, you can't do anything without this. You can do this, but do it out here.

Yeah, I'm not, hey, listen, man, and I wish, I wish you would ask me the first time. I don't know why you didn't. Public proposals, I feel like it's just, you're putting a lot of pressure on that young lady, you know, but also, like, I'm trying to eat my dinner. I don't want to stop my conversation to, like, look and act like I give a fuck about somebody else's marriage. Holy shit, dude. Well, a couple things. Barely care about my marriage. Joking. It's a joke. A couple things. Maybe they already. I love you, Meg. Go ahead. Maybe they already agreed that, yeah, I'll say yes. I just want to be asked in person at Disney World. Also, what if they were one of the positive 50%? Why don't you make me sit in the corner and watch? I mean, like, fuck, guys. They could have been one of the positive 50% that made it.

It's also a great story. They're going to tell that story for a long time. I guarantee. They're probably going Good Morning America and meet like Kelly Ripa soon. They are a viral couple. It's one of those days. They're going to monetize this. They should.

And then they're going to flex on that Disney guy. They better. when they get really rich, they're going to realize that money can't buy you happiness and they're going to get divorced. What they should do. No, I think that they should bully Disney into giving them a whole wedding. They're going to get so much money that they're going to not have to have jobs anymore and realize how fucking hard it is to be unemployed and married and have money and have nowhere to go. I'm joking. I'm joking. Somebody at home's like, that's insensitive towards people who don't have the money and are unemployed. I'm with you. Just don't,

just don't propose at Disney, man. Just not at Disney. There's kids there and shit. Where'd you propose? In public. But nobody saw it because it went well. You only see those if they go badly. No.

In public. I did. I forgot. I proposed in public. But it wasn't, it actually wasn't like in a place where people were held captive. You know what I mean? where I have to like sit at my table.

We were on the side of a street. It was like a Sunday evening in the winter. So it was cold. I made sure it was cold. Nobody was out there. And there's a movie sign, dude. Like, you know, like a marquee. And it said, marry me, M.O.

Real low key to the point. Stopped her, pointed it out and just got it done. Real business like. Public, but business like. See, what I did is I gave the appearance that I did a public. But nobody really knew what was going on for me. And her. I mean, one or two people might have clapped.

It's kind of like being that. It's unbelievable that I forgot that I did semi-propos in public. That's so funny. But definitely not at a show. You know what I mean? I do think that, and don't do it at a sports event, dude. What's the difference of what you did? Big difference.

It's a ticker. It's not a ticker? Nobody knows what Marry Me M.O. means. They could think it's an indie film. Yo, I thought you were joking when you just like, when I asked you that. I said public, bro. I mean, technically in a public place. You know what constitutes a public place to my kids?

A place they can't pee. Quite literally. That's how they, that's how they figured out the distinction between a public and private. In private, yeah, backyard's all yours. Public, no, that's not a nature pee. You can't do that. We're at a strip mall. Yeah, those are bushes, but you're in public.

Yeah, I was in public. I was technically in public. But I definitely didn't do it at a sporting event or at a show. I'm a notch down. I'm in the minors. Make it stop, guys. Definitely don't do Disney World. That's fucking funny.

That's hilarious. That's so good. I mean, you got me right where you wanted me. It's almost like you knew where I got married. You let me go on the whole segment and then we just... Well, I did know about that because we'd been to that establishment and you told me about it before. and I was like, this is weird that he's talking shit on public. So great.

I've been married eight years, dude. So great. I've been married eight, nine years. That was like the first team meeting. Okay. We're seasoned veterans, dude. We ain't looking backwards. Nothing we did early in our careers matter.

It's about today. You also undersold that. That's a very prominent marquee in the middle of the major pedestrian mall in the middle of Charlottesville. You called it a fucking side speaker. Look at that. Look at that. This guy.

I said on the side of a street. But I will tell you, I do think there's another level to it. I think if you go, there's public and then there's, we should almost do it, we should just continue on this thing. But we should just talk about the worst places to propose,

the tiers of worst places to propose. Like number one for me is at a football game, which is the most corporate of the major sporting events, especially not a professional football game. Actually, if you do, if you're like a Cincinnati Bengals fan of your tailgating, I think that's sweet.

That's cute. Like the nude beach. I think that'd be a bad spot. That'd be a really bad spot. Yeah, that probably would be a bad spot. Because it's just, yeah, I don't know. And now thinking about it, like, where I did it was a bad spot because it was, it was the first night of being on vacation.

I thought about that after. And I was like, she'd have said, no, that would have been, like, damn, like four or five more days in Mexico. Yeah, dude. Like, ouch. At the result. At the resort, you got turned down? Like, at the all-inclusive resort,

so you're going to see all these people at breakfast, lunch, and dinner for the next. How fucking, talk about fly on the wall. Oh, my God. The fucking confidence I had about that. What would you have done if you had the funds? You'd have given her a plane ticket or just moved her to a different resort? I probably got real drunk. Yeah, dude.

Like, I probably got, I probably got real drunk. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, probably would a guilt, probably would a guilt tripped her to go home. Guiltripped her. Okay, we're not getting married. Southwest. Make sure you get in one of the early lines.

I would have pawn that ring right in Mexico. Because on Southwest, you don't have a seat. There's some drama in the golf world, the Saudi-backed live golf tour, L-I-V. The league has spent. a ton of money to prove its legitimacy, nearly four or five hundred million between Phil Mickelson, Bryson de Chimbo, and Dustin Johnson.

Do you guys have any interest in following these live tour events? Only like... And how much do you know about it? Only, okay, so, well, whoa, whoa, whoa, talk on, time on, time, time on, tell me. Yeah, say that money, say that money value again? So this Saudi back to league is spending a stupid and number of money to get three golfers,

one of whom is he's like number one play in the world. Okay. Top three. There's another guy who's, yeah, and one guy who's kind of over the hill. Between those three players, they spent four or 500 million to bring them to their tour.

Basically, so these players get a hundred million plus. Think of it like this. These players get a hundred million plus for how long? No, it's a deal and then they get for each event, they get a part of the purse. So, for example, the PGA Tour, there's like a $15 million purse in each event, non-major, say.

So the winner of each PGA Tour event gets about a million and a half dollars. If, like, 20th place gets like $400,000. Yeah. But to get these guys to their tour, the Live Tour gave Phil Mickelson like $250 million, just to get him over there. They gave Dustin Johnson like $150,000. Then they're going to go win tournaments. And then they get the tour. tournament money on top of that.

So if there's any golfers out there, I used to caddy. Any golfers that are going over there, if you guys need a caddies. Okay, but here's the catch. Can I tell you that catch? What's the catch? The people funding the league behead people. What are we doing? Are we still caddying?

Hold on. This is an interesting human experiment here. Yo, that's enough money that I can bring a Navy SEAL with me. Right or wrong. Like, right or wrong? Like those guys are going to have security. Are they not? So I'm going to pay and I'm going to get a Navy SEAL or two.

They're not going to be head to you, bro. Oh, what you mean? Not unless you speak out against the government or something. Oh, yeah. So like, I'm not going to say nothing. I'm going to go get my money. Like, enjoy the scenery. Do what toys do, play some golf and get up out of there.

And you and Phil Mickelson are the same in this circumstance. Do you have gambling debts we don't know about it? Yeah, I think, I honestly think it's, uh, listen, but two, you guys are turning, like, Chris, listen, Chris has made multi-millions, like, of dollars, so he can, like, he can sit on and say, but I have to make some choices in my life. But, like, how long is this obligation? So, like, he has to go, he has to go back and forth there. There are eight events, and it goes, like, some are in the U.S., the first event is in London.

Some events are, it's all over the world. You guys want to talk me out the money right now? He's just trying to give you like, I just, before you go to Saudi Arabia and caddy for these guys, you're going to see people's hands getting cut off. Did you see Phil Mickelson's picture? Everybody's seen the picture online where his eyes look like saucers, bro. And I captioned it when you go on your official visit and see somebody get like their hand chopped off because that's the type of shit that happens in Saudi Arabia.

Or terrible human rights violations in that country. You wouldn't let me go. go report for the green light pod out there on the golf tournament? Sure. Yeah, yeah, you could. But I would want you to find, I would want you to talk to the people and do some hard hitting like Vice used to do. Like when Vice was actually good, Vice used to do some like really hard hitting shit.

I want you to go out there and find out what the fuck's going on out there. Here's the deal, man. Phil Mickelson, these guys, obviously I don't know their financial situations and that sort of thing. But it's hard to imagine. I mean, even with that kind of money, deciding to go over there. I'm also a guy that I don't need more than a hundred mil. A quarter of a billion dollars?

I don't need more than 100 mil. So if I'm Tiger Woods, people are looking at Tiger Woods, he turned down a nine figure. He turned down something north of 500 million. So, tell me out, like, let me get this straight. Like, all you guys are. If I'm Tiger Woods, there's no way I'm trading my, even no matter what you think about Tiger's name,

there's no way I'm trading. There's, there's the type of shit tigers gotten criticized for, and then to me there's this. She said four months for 250 million. Think of it. So Tiger Woods has made the most money in PGA Tour history. He's made $121 million on-course earnings. And he's about to get double that. No, no, no. He's not going, though. No, he's not going. Dustin Johnson has made like third all time. In the red. That's why he's there, I think. That's the joke online. I don't know his finances. But like what's, you know, Dustin Johnson and Paulina Gretzky are going to be over there rubbing elbows with people who are bad people, dude? You're trying to buy a football team or something.

I'm just saying, bro, it's not a great look. And you could say what you would do. I can only speak for myself. It's tough to imagine going to work for people like that. And I used to think the same thing about, like, you know. But what if it's for him? We just talked about this. Like, what about like, we literally just talked about this,

but this is not on the golf thing. What if he doesn't care about that? What if he wants to just go play golf? You're doing a Jack Dorrio. You're falsely, you're doing a false equivalence between, between somebody passing up on a sound bite that's not going to change a fucking thing or carrying water for a government

that's cutting people's fucking heads off. No, I get it. Like, there's a difference to me. Some of the reasons some of these golfers are going over there. One is less events. They get more time to spend with their family. A lot more money, obviously, less travel,

and there are no cuts. It's only 54 holes, peach event, no cuts. And they get team names. You get two names. So when no money, Wait, so when no cuts, that means everyone who plays is making money. If you don't make a cut on the PGA tour, you do not get paid. Like out of the purse.

I mean, my thing is, there's a lot of criticism with the PGA, right? I don't know how people are feeling about this. I haven't, I'm not on golf Twitter. Golf Twitter is very anti. I mean, some of these golfers are going over there, Driesen DeShambot, not universally liked. Patrick Reed, not universally liked. Kevin Nah, iffy, but a lot of the golfers on the PGA tour are.

don't really like him. So it's not like Jordan Spieth and Justin Thomas, like the most popular players are going over there. Ricky Fowler's Todd to Lee. He hasn't been announced yet. He's one of the most popular players on the PGA tour. He just hasn't played very well lately. So that could change some minds.

So go ahead. So are those other players who aren't going? Are they frowning upon these players going? So Rory McElroy today said, I've made decisions in my life based strictly. upon money and they never work out. So a lot of these other golfers are like, even Justin Thomas said some things today. Like I'm not going to, he said, I'm not going to cut off friendship with Dustin Johnson, but I'm not going to go play that league when this tour.

I'm not coming to visit Dustin Johnson. I'm not fucking hanging out with Dustin Johnson. Like, hey man, like, I'm not going to, I'm not going to like be yelling at Dustin Johnson, but it's just like, bro, no thank you. There's some shady shit going on there. Just to clarify, like, what the Saudi government is doing is they're dropping all this money on these players in order to legitimize themselves. And by those players selling their reputation and selling their own celebrity, they're propping up the Saudi government that has done all of these evil things. So like that's why when you ask, would you go there for any amount of money?

Like, my answer is no. Yeah, dude. Listen, now I got money, but I can't imagine. And then, you know, we've got the World Cup coming up. I mean, that's been a big deal for a couple years in Qatar. Qatar, however people are saying it. Cutter. Yeah, all kinds of human rights abuses there,

especially on the building of the stadiums. So, yeah. No, there's all kinds of levels of hypocrisy. So you guys think I'm a bad guy to take the 250 mil? No. No, I just think you're putting money over morals, which people do all the time. I mean, I don't think you're a bad guy.

I know you, but I think in this circumstance, maybe. Just ask for a raise. I can't give you $250 million, but... And that's the thing that a lot of people are waiting to see what the PAGA tour is going to do. They've said it's going to be some swift reactions and sanctions on these golfers who went over there. You can still play the majors. Read, add a little light bulb, bing, ming, ming, see, to use it for leverage. Certainly, but who wants to be the one, you know, going on the moral suicide mission?

Guys, I wouldn't take the 250. I know. Thank you for coming around. Thank you for coming around. A couple recent movie casting announcements. Julia Gardner will play Madonna. Anna DeArmus will play Marilyn Monroe. Brad Pitt is casted an upcoming F1 movie.

Any of these castings excite you the most? Julia Gardner, I tweeted earlier that this is a win for Madonna. it's the way I'd put it and I know people think highly of Madonna I don't know as much about Madonna I think a lot of people today were kind of surprised to hear that I only know

a couple songs by name I'm sure if you played me a bunch of Madonna stuff that's great I just never got it I never got it you know the it you know the it I'm talking about I just don't get it about a virgin yeah I said two or three songs now get to two or three

and once you get to four there's like a player into the groove vogue I think you're reading the list because you just said like a player and it's like a prayer. Oh, like a prayer, yeah. Like a player.

I was like, damn, she got remakes? Those are the two songs I know. Like a player. Like a prayer. Oh, man, she kissed Drake. That's, and if I was Drake, I would have brushed my teeth. Yo, it was unwilling. He didn't want it.

He was unexpected. If I was Drake, I would have brushed my teeth. And if she was a man, that would have been a totally different deal. But I'm okay with that burden. we're big and strong so when it comes to madonna i don't get it you know what the it i'm talking about is like the fact that like everybody has had sex with madonna that's that's anybody and everybody's hyped about it like what's going on there she obviously has a snapper or something the what the snapper the snapper she's a pescatarian look it up in the urban dictionary

uh-huh i know what you mean i know what you mean but obviously i mean some fisheries are over fished. What did Mr. T say? What did Mr. T say about Mr. T and the president's wife? Mr. T from Rocky? Nancy Reagan? Is that we're talking about? Yeah, Nancy Reagan. Right. He did.

He's the one. I didn't realize he's the one. Mr. T. I didn't know that he's the one that fucking started that whole thing. So, yo, like some chicks, they might have it behind doors. It might not be like visible like up close in person. No, I

understand all that but what I'm saying is I just don't get the Madonna thing but anyways I get the Julia Gardner thing Julia Gardner is one of the best young actor actresses in the in the game I mean one of the best period Ozark is enough for me to know that she's she's about to be fucking the real deal for a long time and so this is awesome and I can actually see this one I can see it same she's a scene stealer in Ozark she's a great actor yeah she's sick dude so good good for her and then the other movie that's cool is the f1 movie with brad pitt if he isn't a f1 looking ass dude right uh lewis hamilton is he's gonna co-produce it how stupid is f1 all that

fucking money they price out the fans 700 dollar mercedes hats at the events and they couldn't get a real lagoon in in miami water everywhere it's florida just fucking move some from right over the you know we're gonna see this movie though you know why same director as Top Gun Maverick Oh my God This movie's bound to suck Because I'm gonna have such high expectations From Top Gun

I still haven't seen it But they had a fake lagoon man They had just We heard how cool this was gonna be There was gonna be a bunch of yachts there That was the big selling point At this F1 race And they had these renderings

And I was like man this is fucking cool I know it was like A blue carpet And they just parked boats on the blue carpet dude i would have been mad as hell if i showed up dude i would have been out finessed yeah finessed by f1 what's the other movie that's so funny anna armas is playing uh marilyn monroe right right right right read you're going to take a particular interest in that movie all right yeah but yeah rest in peace they said she you want to talk about snapper she had the uh where you guys getting all these

stories from mr t mr f k yeah jfk yeah oh my god that's that's funny if you're an NBA star playing in the finals what is the level of celebrities sitting courtside that will distract you Jesus that's about it he's on the big board for our short king draft yeah we got short king draft coming up on on tuesday yeah probably two puck or biggie

No, I've already seen Tupac. I was at Coachella when he came out as a hologram. So I've been there, done that. I don't know who it would be, man. If Willie Nelson was sitting courtside and you were playing basketball, you wouldn't be distracted and mess up on defense. Yeah, yeah, Willie. I might miss a free throw because of Willie.

Maybe one of Steph Curry's friends, one Steph Curry friend and went viral. If you catch the ball in the wing, you're about to shoot a three, and right as you jump, you hear Willie Nelson say, make it, Chris. Is that going to... That would be such a movie, dude.

Make it, Chris. And then it goes like slow motion. And then the ball just... What if Willie Nelson said... And then me and Willie Nelson hug. And just immediately somebody passes us both a joint. What if Willie Nelson... I name my dog, Willie, and he's like, this is weird.

And then my coach pulls me away. You're shooting it and he says, Chris, you need to make this. I have a hundred. thousand dollars on this game for the over and your shot if you make it it be so bad dude if i fucking lost a bet for willy nelson dude god i hope it probably it might be 50 50 cent i think i'd be excited to see 50 cent yeah i was trying to think about in my head 50 cent is uh is right up your alley because he's so creative and he's such like uh he's a hustler dude yo he's the

he just knows he just yeah and he's really good on online you have very online you have to You have to go back and look at when he signed his vitamin water deal. Yeah. He does. He's like, he's doing his own promo. He's like, look, he's on a roof in New York City. He's like, this is how much I promote my shit. Look, everyone, try vitamin water.

Look at all those people down there. And he starts throwing it. Spraying vitamin water. Like off the roof and it goes everywhere. But it's also on the ground. And when he starts walking, he slips and falls hard. You have to see the video. We're 50 cent, dude.

50 cent. at courtside my might uh i wouldn't want to be made fun of by 50 cents so yeah maybe that would distract me too 50 center m speaking of mb a you guys see that uh the lakers new coaching staff or their lakers new coach darwin ham yeah darwin ham that offense is really evolving no and rashid yeah so he caught he hired rashid as his assistant yeah i know i had a question for you guys about rishid so rashid has 317 career technical fouls which is 313 third all time. If he gets any more techs on the bench, do those get added to his career tech stats? Because he's only 12 behind Barclay for second most all time. I think it's unfair

because Barclay hasn't had the same opportunity as a coach. Well, we'll have to look at what you call it, like how they tally in Kerr's. Did he have any techs when he was playing? Not a big tech guy. That's interesting. Steve Kerr, I don't think he's ever gotten it. Because any of the players, like any, like, wait, how many other player like old, like Jason K. probably got texts yeah so like i wonder if they're tally if there's a way to look at that i don't know i think there's probably a database yeah basketball reference but that's gonna be fun that's gonna be fun that's gonna be fun this is okay in my book he and look and lebron just had a soundbite saying like he want he would like he would like he would want to play with draymond because he's like i enjoy getting

cussed at oh rish got some cussing for you bro yeah i think we have that covered but uh oh yeah lebron planting the seeds he's going to it's also funny because LeBron beat Darvinham and Sheed Wallace in the playoffs in like 2004, 2005, when those guys were playing for the Pistons. The Pistons. It's also the LeBron thing, like I know everybody's doing the Golden State hypothetical, but it would be funny as fuck if the warriors were like, no. Like, if he was like, I want to come play with y'all and they were just like, no. We want to do, we want to do this ourselves. Like, that's what I'm waiting for. Like somebody to try, like somebody tweets in another dude, like the eyeball.

and then they're like, no. You know what I mean? That's kind of what Kauai did, right? Kauai was about to join the Lakers and then he was like, nah, never mind. I don't want to play. Well, I'm saying the opposite, like the king wants to come play for your team, guys.

But who's going to do that? That's just like thinking like who would do that to Tom Brady? Golden State. No one. It's different. No. It's definitely different.

I don't think so. It's definitely different at this point. Those guys want to play with LeBron. I would think. I wouldn't doubt it. I mean, but I'm saying. I would think I know we all say that on the outside, but I think those guys as players, like, fuck yeah,

you want to play a LeBron. Do you think that they want LeBron now all of a sudden dictating who's Yes, because they're not that good anymore. They're good. They're playing in the championship. Hold on. You're talking about the Warriors? I'm just saying.

I'm just saying. What are you talking about the Warriors? I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. I'm just saying. And everybody else is on vacation. Every team can use a little bit of LeBron.

The last thing we have for you guys, we have an unboxing facts. Okay, let's do it. Oh, let's go. Okay. So this was sent to us from Jared Lyons. Shout out Jared. He heard the pencil sharpener episode. Oh, my God, man.

And he has business supplies. Holy shit. Eagle's pencils. Oh, Eagles pencils. Eagles pencils. Caught doing good. Oh, these are for your kids. Excellent work.

No, they're not. Excellent work. Oh my God. Hey, can I see that big pencil for a second? Yo, he out did himself. Oh, my God, dude. Thank you. This is the Taekondroga.

But this is all an eraser. It's all one big eraser that looks like a pencil. That's fire. This is so fucking cute. Don't call it cute, bro. It's cute. Oh, snap. Matt.

Juju fruit. You take the juju fruits. Oh, these are chewy, chewy juji fruits. Yeah. See, look. We've got pencils that say awesome. Just a cool. Excellent work.

Doing good. Um. A cool 85 grams of sugar in this bad boy. Oh yeah? I'll just be writing shit all night with my pencil. Flavor singles. I don't know what those are. Probably a hydration packet or something.

Oh, attendance award. Awards. Guys, this is so cool. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. Oh, and we got a curly wig. Look at this curly wig.

Bro, they got the one we can put on the wall. We can put this on our heads. The sharpener. Oh, we all have to. Let's go. A wall mount. We'll have to do a wig day. Wig day for sure.

We'll have to do a wig day. If you guys want to send us packages to the Greenlight Pod, the address is 2150 Y Street number 5267 Charlottesville, Virginia, 22905. Hey, what a fun show, huh? Awesome show. Awesome show. I had a great time. Yeah. Now I'm going to cut your hand off. As long as you have my $250 million. Okay.